The NXR Podcast - THEOLOGY APPLIED - Leave California, Come To Texas

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00:00:18 Hi, this is Pastor Joel Webin. Welcome to another episode of Theology Applied.

00:00:22 I'm privileged in this episode to have Luke Masius as a special guest from the Luke Masius show.

00:00:27 Luke is a political consultant

00:00:30 he's a podcaster

00:00:31 he does all sorts of things

00:00:33 in the realm of culture

00:00:35 in the realm of politics

00:00:36 and all in the great state of Texas

00:00:39 and so I have Luke come on the show

00:00:41 to talk about the benefits of Texas

00:00:43 the good but also the bad

00:00:46 and the ugly

00:00:47 the fight for Texas

00:00:48 the fight for really the soul of Texas

00:00:51 and how Christians can get involved 0.52

00:00:53 to win the culture war

00:00:55 thanks for tuning in

00:00:57 Real quick, before we get started, I've got some exciting news to announce.

00:01:01 I've got A.D. Robles and John Harris from Conversations That Matter coming out for a whole weekend in the month of March to join up on a Friday.

00:01:11 We're going to come in our studio right here, and all three of us are going to record a multiple-part series on some of the subject matter that you guys have requested that the three of us address through our YouTube comments.

00:01:24 Some of you have emailed, we're taking that into consideration as well, but we're definitely

00:01:28 looking at the YouTube comments.

00:01:30 We've asked you guys, hey, what are topics you want us to address?

00:01:33 And so the three of us are going to record for several hours, a multiple part series

00:01:37 in our studio right here in the great state of Texas in March.

00:01:41 And we're going to be releasing that content over the coming weeks.

00:01:44 Now, here's the other thing.

00:01:45 That's on the Friday that they're going to be in town.

00:01:48 But on the Saturday, we're going to hold a one day conference.

00:01:51 Now, that's going to be March 12th, Saturday, March 12th.

00:01:55 It's going to be a one-day conference where AD is going to do a session on practical, obedient defiance,

00:02:02 how to resist civil tyranny, how to resist medical tyranny,

00:02:05 and how to do this in practical, on-the-ground ways as households, as head of households, husbands, fathers.

00:02:12 How do we resist as a family against the cancel culture and the tyranny and persecution that's coming to America?

00:02:20 That's going to be AD session. 0.99

00:02:21 I'm going to do a session called debunking the boogeyman of Christian nationalism. 0.73

00:02:26 I'm going to kind of reveal the fallacies of the gospel coalition and all these kinds 0.95

00:02:31 of things. 1.00

00:02:31 Oh, Christian nationalists, the greatest threat to America. 0.94

00:02:34 I'm going to show why that's not biblical and how that's not actually happening. 0.70

00:02:37 And the irony that if anything, Russell Moore, he's the type who is actually the Christian

00:02:43 nationalist in a negative sense.

00:02:45 And then John Harris is going to do a session on social justice versus biblical justice.

00:02:50 Again, that's social justice and how it's completely opposed, completely opposite to biblical justice.

00:02:57 And lastly, the three of us are going to come up all together and spend a whole hour doing Q&A.

00:03:02 We're going to take live questions from the audience and address those questions.

00:03:07 It's going to be a great time.

00:03:08 You'll get to meet John Harris.

00:03:09 You'll get to meet A.D. Robles.

00:03:10 You'll get to meet myself.

00:03:11 So if you're anywhere in the area, in Williamson County, or if you're in Austin, Texas, or

00:03:17 you're north of Williamson County, or to the west, or to the east, and you want to come

00:03:20 out and join us for that one-day conference, Saturday, March 12th, come on out.

00:03:26 It's free registration.

00:03:27 We're going to have some refreshments free.

00:03:29 Everything's free.

00:03:30 So we're paying out-of-pocket as a ministry to make this happen.

00:03:33 We're covering the cost to fly out John and AD, to put them up in a hotel, so you don't

00:03:38 have to pay a dime to show up and attend this.

00:03:41 However, for anybody who wants to be generous and help us offset these costs, you can do

00:03:46 so donating towards this conference by simply going to rightresponseministries.com slash

00:03:52 donate.

00:03:53 Again, that's rightresponseministries.com slash donate.

00:03:57 Now to find the address, physical location for the conference and exact times for each

00:04:02 of the sessions for that Saturday, March 12th, again, go to our website, rightresponseministries.com,

00:04:08 click on the menu button at the top and scroll down and you'll find conference click on conference

00:04:13 you'll find all the details that you need and one of the details there that we need is although

00:04:18 registration is free there's a form at the bottom that says rsvp we would really appreciate if you

00:04:25 could let us know whether or not you're coming and how many people you plan on bringing with you

00:04:31 right if you've got 10 kids god bless you for having 10 kids but we would like to know that

00:04:35 you're bringing yourself, your wife, and your 10 kids. Please come, but please let us know so that

00:04:40 we can adequately prepare for this. The last thing that I'll say is that that Sunday, which would be

00:04:46 March 13th, for anybody who wants to join our church, Covenant Bible Church, John Harris will

00:04:52 stay in town. He's going to linger and he's going to preach that Sunday morning at our Lord's Day

00:04:57 worship service. That's 9 30 a.m. on Sunday, March 13th at my church that I pastor. Again, that's

00:05:04 covenant bible church we're in georgetown texas that's the williamson county area so if you're

00:05:09 in williamson county or you're in north austin or you're somewhere nearby and you don't have a

00:05:14 church home if you've got a church home go there but if you don't have a church home you're looking

00:05:18 for a church that has courage that has biblical fidelity and you want to hear john harris preach

00:05:23 a dynamite sermon from the word of god then come and join us again sunday march 13th you can find

00:05:30 details or directions to join our church that Sunday morning at covenantbible.org. Our website

00:05:37 for Covenant Bible Church is covenantbible.org. Without further ado, let's go ahead and jump into

00:05:43 our episode. Applying God's Word to every aspect of life. This is Theology Applied.

00:05:55 Hi, this is Pastor Joel Webin with Right Response Ministries, and you're watching another episode

00:06:00 of our show called Theology Applied. Today, I am very privileged to be joined by a special guest

00:06:06 named Luke Massius. Luke Massius. Luke, go ahead and just introduce yourselves to our guests.

00:06:11 Tell them all the things that you do. You're a jack of all trades. Let them know who you are.

00:06:16 I was going to be a doctor growing up because I was named Dr. Luke in the Bible.

00:06:21 Okay. And so I was homeschooled and my parents would make me write papers on like the gastrointestinal

00:06:27 tract and vestigial organs and interview doctors. And when I was 16, my dad ran for public office,

00:06:34 state representative. Somebody in our church came to us. We weren't that involved politically and

00:06:38 said, Hey, our representative is a pretty liberal Republican, a pro-choice Republican,

00:06:43 other problems in the Texas Hill Country area. So my dad ran for office and won by 45 votes of

00:06:49 20,000 cast. And me and my six siblings had basically jumped in and got involved. And

00:06:55 I knew at that point that I had a passion for this. I honestly like hardly schooled that year

00:07:01 because I just loved this stuff so much and mom was always getting on me. So I went into my

00:07:05 parents' room after that and I told them, I think that the Lord has called me into the political

00:07:10 arena, which they agreed because I almost failed chemistry that year too. So the medical direction

00:07:16 was not looking good. I was getting pushed and pulled. And at that point, I just started applying

00:07:21 myself in politics did a bunch of different stuff but ultimately ended up starting a political

00:07:26 consulting company 11 years ago and i've worked on almost 100 political campaigns across texas i

00:07:32 ended up partnering with and working alongside a lot of the different conservative organizations

00:07:37 in texas we have various different special interest groups that fight particular issues

00:07:41 be it parental rights issues or media companies or fiscal accountability watchdog organizations

00:07:47 things like that so i've worked alongside that and then partnered up with different philanthropists

00:07:52 who are trying to fight to preserve the freedom that we have maybe even expand it it's kind of um

00:07:58 i think sometimes hard for texans to realize that there are a lot of freedoms that we don't have

00:08:02 that we could yeah and so anyways i right now i have a weekly show as well um not quite as advanced

00:08:10 but uh no but we talk about texas news and politics people have so much access to national

00:08:15 stuff. You know, the truth is there's 1,800 podcasts you can go to if you want to know

00:08:20 what the U.S. Senate's doing in Congress and Biden and Trump and anybody else. But we found

00:08:26 that there's just so little content out there about what's happening in our state. And Texas

00:08:30 as a state is more impactful culturally and even nationally than any other state union,

00:08:36 I would argue. And you come from California, right? So you understand there's these large

00:08:40 states have way more pool than a state like arkansas or missouri and so uh anyways enjoy

00:08:46 talking to a lot of texans about the kind of things that are going on in our state right

00:08:50 so with that you know so you said like i'm from california and so you know our listeners know

00:08:55 that i was born and raised in texas but i was in california for the last 11 years until the end of

00:09:00 2020 december and not just myself but i you know led as i told you a team of seven different

00:09:06 households to come out of you know out of Egypt and to the promised land you know but the problem

00:09:12 with the promised land to use that metaphor is that um that there are enemies in the land and

00:09:18 it's not just coming to land that flows with milk and honey but there are problems here as well and

00:09:23 things that have to be fought against and so with that kind of a double question we talked about

00:09:28 this a little bit before we started recording but number one why why are guys whether it be

00:09:33 Elon Musk or you know I mean you've got Oracle you've got Apple you've got all these different

00:09:38 companies in droves moving to not just states like Texas but Texas they like Texas so what are

00:09:44 some of the policies that make Texas appealing but then also what are some of those fights that

00:09:50 we need because you said there are certain things about Texas certain freedoms that we don't have

00:09:54 so so what are the good policies and then what are some of the policies that Texans need to be aware

00:09:59 of it where there's a fight to be fought? Yeah, I think that's a great question because

00:10:03 primarily there's a huge appeal to moving to a state with no income tax, first and foremost. I

00:10:09 mean, that's fundamentally when you're a business, when you're looking at relocating and you talk

00:10:13 about the fact that a home here is significantly less than a home in California. Now, unfortunately,

00:10:19 you probably know home values are skyrocketing in Texas as a result of that. But the reality is

00:10:23 you go, okay, wait, you can get twice the home that you would sell this home for. I don't even

00:10:29 have to give you a raise and you start making X percentage more just based on the fact that you

00:10:33 don't have a state income tax at this point. So people like that. Businesses like predictable

00:10:39 regulatory environments. That's just the reality. We know that economic-based idea that the less

00:10:44 they think you're going to change up the regulation, the more they're likely to invest

00:10:48 big dollars into this economy because they go, look, we think we'll still be in this environment

00:10:53 10, 15, 20 years from now. And so I think there's that predictable regulatory environment, the low

00:10:57 taxation that contributes towards people being pretty attracted. And then there's the fact that

00:11:03 we are not as woke as where you're currently at, right? So if you're in California and you're

00:11:10 somebody who just has a middle of the road worldview, I mean, I would consider myself a

00:11:15 relatively far right of center worldview when it comes to a hundred people in a room. But the

00:11:21 reality is even if you're somebody who's in the middle of the general worldview of the populace

00:11:25 you are not welcome in a lot of blue states right now and they are doing what they can to say look

00:11:30 you either have to be like us or you are not welcome here your ideas are not welcome your

00:11:36 children are not allowed to think for themselves and so all of a sudden they go diversity when it 0.82

00:11:40 comes to skin color there's no diversity of thought no no true diversity in fact they're

00:11:45 even more upset if you have like you're not white and you actually also have a right of center world

00:11:50 yeah well then you're an uncle tom yeah whatever so they are uh i think people then go well i'm

00:11:56 i'm feeling attacked here so i will go there because i will be less likely to be attacked

00:12:00 and i think that still remains true today i mean your worldview if you're right of center you're

00:12:03 not going to get attacked in texas as as much as you would uh if you were in california or one of

00:12:08 those states so this to me is an attraction that we have the things that are really dangerous

00:12:14 fundamentally uh we as texans who are here are blessed by anybody from california that moves 0.91

00:12:21 here because we have we are seeing essentially i call them political refugees but the majority of

00:12:26 people moving from california to texas are conservative that's right people they just

00:12:31 are they're coming here and they're bringing their general right of center worldview here

00:12:36 that's why they're coming and so since the majority of them are when we net a thousand new

00:12:41 citizens that actually is more helpful to conservatives in the state one of our problems

00:12:46 is that we do have a lot of indoctrinating going on with our own children and unfortunately a lot

00:12:51 of it's government funded right we have a k-12 system and we have a university system with our

00:12:56 public universities that we know are indoctrinating children more often than not and it's really a sad

00:13:02 thing where we've been for decades funding the indoctrination of our own populace and we're

00:13:07 starting to reap the unfortunate benefits or rewards. You reap what you sow, right? And so

00:13:13 what we're seeing is that there was a poll done back in 2018 when Beto O'Rourke almost beat Ted

00:13:19 Cruz. There was a super close election and everybody was really concerned. They said,

00:13:23 man, all these Californians are changing our state. And what they found was, no,

00:13:28 the Californians that moved in here were voting for Ted Cruz over Beto O'Rourke by a 60-40 margin.

00:13:32 The problem is we have all these people 18 to 35 that are in Texas that are native-born that are all voting for BETA.

00:13:40 Why is that?

00:13:41 Well, maybe because they went through a K-12 system, and in a lot of those systems, they are run by leftists who are giving you leftist ideology.

00:13:50 And then you go to a publicly funded state university, and we know that Texas A&M just finally this year after a lot of pressure canceled its drag show that it's been having for the last several years.

00:14:01 this is a texas college that people would tell you is a more conservative texas college they've

00:14:05 been having a taxpayer funded drag show on their on their locations you've got they are training

00:14:11 up the teachers with these general marxist ideas and then sending them into the classroom and so

00:14:16 it's this never-ending loop so we have a real problem when it comes to indoctrinating our own

00:14:21 populace and just in the last year or two we finally i think started to bring a lot more light

00:14:26 to that where people are waking up citizens are waking up they're starting to demand action

00:14:31 on it because they're realizing we can't sustain this. If we're funding our own demands, it's a

00:14:38 pretty big problem. Right. No, I completely agree. So I was going to bring that up, you know, in

00:14:42 terms of, you know, people say that it's California that's turning Texas blue and those kinds of

00:14:46 things. But I completely agree with you. The person who makes that transition from California

00:14:51 or New York to a state like Texas or a state like Idaho tends to be a person who is conservative

00:14:57 and is looking for conservative freedoms that come from conservative policies.

00:15:02 And it seems like people make that connection.

00:15:04 It seems like the people who are embracing liberal ideology and policies

00:15:10 are the people who take it for granted.

00:15:12 And it just seems like that's kind of the pattern almost of just human history.

00:15:17 Well, I can't remember the theologian who said this,

00:15:20 but in terms of Christian faith and the gospel,

00:15:23 is that the first generation believes the gospel,

00:15:25 the second generation assumes the gospel the third generation neglects the gospel and the

00:15:30 fourth generation rejects the gospel and it's it's almost like generationally things get so bad and

00:15:38 and then you it's almost like you need a war with russia or china and communism to be reminded oh

00:15:44 that's why we don't entertain those policies that's why socialism doesn't work that's why

00:15:49 you know whatever it is and so what how are we going to turn it around what do you think the

00:15:54 solution is? I think that's a great question. Do we have to just wait for disaster? Yeah.

00:16:01 Unfortunately, a lot of people do sometimes wait for that disaster to wake up. People are very

00:16:05 upset when they do hear the type of things that are going on. You know, we have two clinics in

00:16:10 Texas who are sexually transitioning children, right? They are professionals at doing this. 1.00

00:16:15 You can bring them a three-year-old boy and say, I want my three-year-old boy to be a three-year-old

00:16:21 girl and they will help you facilitate that lie to that child okay this is child abuse we know it

00:16:28 is but it's not defined as child abuse in texas unfortunately and our lawmakers haven't done so

00:16:32 they've known this is going on for years three years ago was the first time this really came

00:16:37 to light in a pretty significant way and there's been a coalition of us that have been working on

00:16:41 advancing a policy to say we need to stop this in texas because not only are we transitioning our

00:16:45 own children we're transitioning children outside of texas and so it starts with psychological

00:16:49 therapies you sit down with a uh a psychologist probably in a setting like this and they ask you

00:16:54 a bunch of questions about what you think about when you see these pictures and you know what do

00:16:58 you think about when you think of girls and boys and and they're helping transition you and then

00:17:02 they're going to have a coming out party and you're going to be declared as the opposite sex

00:17:07 and then they're going to tell your public school that you are the opposite sex and then your 0.78

00:17:10 teachers are going to start calling you a female name instead of a male name even though you're

00:17:14 still a boy and this is the reality that's happening they'll start blocking these kids

00:17:18 puberty at 9, 10, 11 years old. And these drugs are all legal in the state of Texas. When you

00:17:23 bring this to light, the vast majority of the populace is pretty upset. And I think there's

00:17:29 a hope that this type of content being brought to the light does wake up a lot of Texans. We have to

00:17:38 push it out there more in order for them to go, whoa, not in my backyard. Because we kind of

00:17:44 think that all this must be happening in California, right? Oh, in New York, they're

00:17:47 definitely doing this to the kids no they're doing it here and most politicians are just

00:17:51 really scared to disrupt the status quo they they want to take the path of least resistance and one

00:17:57 of the things the left does very well is they're militantly against you if you try to come after

00:18:02 them and so it creates this culture and environment where these politicians go i don't really want to

00:18:07 touch this issue so i feel like these type of things being brought to light um really do give

00:18:13 us a potential to wake people up maybe before we're into catastrophe. Yep. So who are some of

00:18:20 the players? Let's name some names because we have an election that is coming up. And I think

00:18:25 by the time we release this episode, it's going to be election day, election day, March 1st in

00:18:30 Texas. And so who are some of the major players, whether it be, you know, attorney general or

00:18:36 whether it be, you know, governor, who are some of the guys who are not just your neocons,

00:18:40 not just your mitt romneys but a true conservative and ideally um a true conservative that in the way

00:18:47 i like to say it is you know there are people who have adopted christ principles but i always say

00:18:52 you know christ principles apart from christ person will not produce christ peace and so there

00:18:57 are people who are conservatives but they're hanging these conservative virtues in midair

00:19:01 they don't actually have the christian foundation so who are some guys who are true conservatives

00:19:06 an actual republican um but but also an actual christian they have a world view to sustain those

00:19:13 things so that we know that you know um i think of ephesians chapter four that talks about every

00:19:17 wind and wave of doctrine that tosses us yes to and fro um who are the guys who have the world

00:19:23 view the anchor so that they won't you know five years from now betray their voter base um no it's

00:19:30 it's uh so this is coming out on election day uh hopefully a decent amount of people have

00:19:35 already voted about 55 percent of broadcast early in texas we have election day if somebody's

00:19:40 watching this and they haven't voted they can go vote right they can they can look it up or call

00:19:44 their elections office and figure out their precinct you don't need your voter card a lot

00:19:47 of people think you need your voter card to vote you just need your driver's license you can walk

00:19:51 in and so that is um some nice things that afford people the opportunity to engage in the process

00:19:56 process uh the the election we have in front of us then i want to talk about elections as a whole

00:20:01 if that's okay but the election's right in front of us you know we do have problems one of the

00:20:04 in fact i've had a lot of conversations over the last two weeks with voters i sent out a voter guide

00:20:09 in san antonio a personal voter guide to my neighbors i started getting called by all these

00:20:13 people who said hey i want to know why uh i shouldn't vote for abbott because he's not on

00:20:17 your list yeah answer that answer that question right there so i'll go and because when i first

00:20:22 moved here i was like hey abbott's you know taking this but then as it as some time went by i realized

00:20:26 oh abbott's number one abbott's taking a stand against abbott so he's taking a strong stand

00:20:33 against that policy that he actually put in place and all of it's basically like you know like how

00:20:38 do you find out what abbott's going to do um well you just look at what ron desantis did six months

00:20:43 before yeah you know a lot of people do say that and maybe you're like well it'd be a lot easier

00:20:46 we just have desantis be our governor and then uh we could take our cues from him when he actually

00:20:51 does it as opposed to six months later yeah yeah we uh on the on the gender transitioning issue we

00:20:58 have been pushing this for three years we have a coalition of people built all across the state

00:21:01 the republican party of texas even got involved and put it on the last two primary ballots in

00:21:05 fact if you go vote there's some propositions that the republican party has put there and the 0.99

00:21:10 top one is texas should ban the transitioning right of children and the reason it's on there

00:21:16 is because it still hasn't been done and the party is trying to put pressure on abbott to

00:21:20 support the policy because he didn't support it last session the senate passed three different

00:21:25 bills that would have dealt with the issue and the texas house killed them and the texas house

00:21:29 not only killed them but you know just so people get a little bit of an understanding of how

00:21:32 politics works the governor will stay silent on any issue that he is okay for the legislature to

00:21:40 kill okay that is kind of the unspoken understanding between the chambers which means that if the

00:21:46 governor is just quiet, then the House, which is more loyal to him than the Senate, then the House

00:21:51 will say, okay, if this bill dies, the governor won't be that upset. In fact, he might even be

00:21:56 happy. But he wouldn't come out. What Republican would come out and say, I don't want this

00:22:00 legislation on my desk. If he does want the legislation to pass, he'll make a very simple

00:22:05 statement. He'll say something like, you know, I would love to sign a bill that bans the sexual

00:22:11 transitioning of children in Texas. I would love to sign that bill if it got to my desk. 0.99

00:22:15 And that sends the message to the House that says, you better move this bill. And if you don't,

00:22:20 now the governor's against you, right? But the truth is, he's been silent on this policy for

00:22:25 three years. And to the point to where after it died, he has these subsequent special sessions.

00:22:30 And in a special session, any bill can be considered as long as the governor, what we say,

00:22:35 puts it on the call. And so the lieutenant governor asked him, he actually came out publicly and said

00:22:40 that he asked the governor, he told the Mark Davis show this, I asked Governor Abbott to put

00:22:44 the ban on sex change surgeries on kids on the call. He didn't do it. The Republican Party of

00:22:49 Texas asked him to put it on the call. He didn't do it. A majority of Texas House members co-authored

00:22:54 a bill to ban it, but he wouldn't put it on the call. The Senate passed it three times.

00:22:58 So there's these kind of issues where he's blatantly ignoring the problem, if that makes

00:23:04 sense. We actually found out, and Don Huffines, who's running against Mr. Abbott, brought this

00:23:09 to light he actually found so the department of family protective services is cps they're who

00:23:14 investigate child abuse they have an entire page on their website dedicating to celebrating lgbtqia

00:23:20 children their peers and their parents the whole page and they literally said they had a resource

00:23:26 there that says do you want to know the difference between sex and gender because remember the left

00:23:30 thinks those are two different things right the gender is just in your head it's very fluid

00:23:33 whatever you want sex is just what you're born with but you can change your gender and even that

00:23:37 second category so there's sex biological sex and gender and even that second category second

00:23:42 category yes they would break up and subdivide into there's gender identity there's gender

00:23:46 expression yeah so it's like what do you think you are then what do you project to the world

00:23:52 that you are and then there's sexual orientation which has to do with attraction so so so i could

00:23:58 be a biological male sex and then i could say uh but my in terms of gender my sexual identity is

00:24:04 female so i think i'm female but i project you know uh pan or a female again i project that to

00:24:12 the world and then i'm a pansexual over here in terms of sexual orientation i like anything

00:24:16 right yeah exactly and so standing for all right whereas in terms of the bible it's nice because

00:24:21 it's simple and true male and female yeah created yep so um we have a we have a pansexual representative

00:24:28 in Texas, a Democrat from El Paso. Very sad reality. And yeah, and I know that she's probably

00:24:35 been through a tremendous none her life of abuse and people mistreating her. And it's so sad to

00:24:41 see how different people medicate their pain. And this is the reality of where we're at in the state

00:24:46 of Texas. But that being said, when Greg Abbott's state agency was caught promoting, celebrating

00:24:54 these lgbtqia lmnop children their peers their parents uh don huffines called them out and

00:25:02 within three days that whole website was taken down wow and the problem is though somebody's

00:25:06 signing off on this stuff does that make sense i mean these this is not andrew cuomo or gavin

00:25:11 newsom putting it out and us catching them we're catching our own because they're just letting so

00:25:16 many of these things through so i think you have a real example there um and you know everybody

00:25:20 anybody who listens to my show knows that i probably like don huffines i've supported him

00:25:24 i've donated to him so on a personal level i'm voting for him he was a homeschool dad five kids

00:25:29 um he he and his whole family are strong committed um catholics and uh just has uh have you heard of

00:25:37 cross politic real quick just to briefly yeah go ahead cross politic uh we've had them on our show

00:25:41 theology applied um and they're in moscow idaho with doug wilson yes yes very familiar okay great

00:25:47 So Toby Sumter, he's like an associate pastor with Doug Wilson.

00:25:52 He's one of the guys on this show.

00:25:53 It's three guys.

00:25:53 It's a guy named David Shannon who goes by his moniker Chalk Knox. 0.92

00:25:57 He's a black guy. 0.95

00:25:58 Like the Scottish performer John Knox was like, give me Scotland lest I die. 0.99

00:26:03 And so Chalk Knox is saying, give me the black community lest I die, 0.98

00:26:06 realizing that they're constantly being preyed upon and used for their black skin 0.97

00:26:10 for typically a bunch of rich white guys who are making property off of them.

00:26:15 you know the democratic party has always been pro-slavery yeah one form or another they've

00:26:20 always been the racist party so and sadly today is no exception so anyways those guys and then

00:26:25 gabriel wrench and he's actually on the board for right response ministry so okay those guys are

00:26:29 great and they just had don huffines on the show and and they endorsed him and so i say all that

00:26:35 to say he's he's got my vote great as well so that's awesome back to you don no so i think

00:26:40 no and he's been willing to define these cultural issues as what they are it's a spiritual battle

00:26:45 And he's talked about that publicly, saying we're in a spiritual battle as well.

00:26:49 I think having leaders that are willing to discuss the battles that we are in as battles of good versus evil really do set us apart and give us a unique opportunity.

00:26:59 If you don't know that that's the battle you're in, then how are you going to actually fight appropriately, if that makes sense?

00:27:05 There's quite a few strong Christian men in the legislature.

00:27:10 A lot of them are regionally based.

00:27:11 One of the things I encourage people to do is to do all your research and try to find people locally.

00:27:15 Brian Slayton is a state representative from East Texas.

00:27:18 He filed the bill last session to abolish abortion.

00:27:20 He led the fight in the Texas House to ban the sexual transitioning of children in Texas. 0.56

00:27:25 He actually was, he went to seminary.

00:27:28 He spent some time as a pastor.

00:27:30 Real quick, with Brian Slayton?

00:27:32 Slayton.

00:27:32 S-L-A-T-O-A.

00:27:33 So Brian Slayton, so I'm not familiar with him.

00:27:35 But what would he say if he was sitting in your chair right now and I said,

00:27:39 what do you think about the heart of the bill?

00:27:40 how he responded so he voted for it there's various different people that have different

00:27:45 opinions on it um he said his position would be that he voted for the heartbeat bill um he did

00:27:51 express publicly some concerns on different ways the heartbeat was crafted and his republican

00:27:57 colleagues honestly just massively criticized him for doing so because yeah even somebody just

00:28:02 getting up and saying hey could this be better could we actually do better are we concerned

00:28:07 about any of these things so he voted for but he wasn't killing abolition you know bills that would

00:28:12 have abolished yeah so he supported a bill he he filed the bill to abolish abortion he then

00:28:18 asked repeatedly stephanie click is a state representative she's the chairman of public

00:28:23 health and she's the one who interestingly enough slow rolled the bill to ban sex change surgeries

00:28:29 she's the same woman who refused to have a hearing on the abolish abortion bill so she refused to

00:28:36 even have a hearing a chairman in texas you'll kind of learn how the process works a chairman

00:28:40 in the texas house is basically a king over that policy area so if i'm the chairman of public health

00:28:45 i get to decide whether all abortion bills even get to be heard wow and they don't have a chance

00:28:51 to be voted on if i don't even have a hearing and then i can even have a hearing on a bill and

00:28:55 decide to never vote on it and none of the members of my committee can make me vote on this bill i'm

00:29:00 the chairman i have ultimate authority so stephanie click who is actually in a very tough race up in 0.51

00:29:05 the North Texas area. It's the North Richland Hills, Watuga area, just around the Fort Worth

00:29:11 Arlington region in Tarrant County. She's got five opponents and all of these people are running

00:29:17 against her because she slow rolled this legislation. She helped kill the ban on 1.00

00:29:23 sex change surgeries. She refused to even let a hearing be held on abolishing abortion.

00:29:27 And so I think Brian would tell you that every Republican state rep there campaigned as a

00:29:33 conservative like none of them went around their communities and said hey you know what i'm kind of

00:29:37 more like the middle the road kind of guy vote for me they all said they're all over here and

00:29:43 they're going to fight for you and then brian would probably tell you the same that the handful

00:29:47 of the good guys do tell you which is that when they get there and they close the doors and you're

00:29:52 in a republican caucus that's when all of a sudden all these people say we don't really need to do

00:29:56 that and you know like we can't like abolish abortion right and we can't like stop all sex

00:30:01 change surgeries you know you just have these conversations and you realize none of y'all would

00:30:05 say this in public none of you would tell anybody in your district this you're just saying it here

00:30:11 so that we maybe decide not to address it from a public policy perspective brian's a great one

00:30:17 for people to be aware of it's honestly one of those where you just find a couple of them that

00:30:22 you can trust and then you can actually follow what's happening in austin and they'll help

00:30:26 empower and inform so that you know how to turn around and try to get other people you and i've

00:30:32 talked about patrick mcginnis i know he's running here in the williamson county area very strong

00:30:36 conservative been a committed conservative uh for a long time in the state and is now running for

00:30:40 this open seat so there's a really good opportunity we have there's race in san antonio that's very

00:30:44 competitive i could kind of go through a list i i hesitate to like bore us by traveling the entire

00:30:49 state but there's really some good opportunities for some strong pickups of strong godly christian

00:30:55 conservative men who seem to have the right mindset to say i want to actually uh do battle

00:31:02 and fight regardless of what the leadership elite will tell me great so so you know like you said

00:31:09 you don't want to get too in the muck and the mire and all the details but what's a good resource

00:31:13 that people can can go to i know they can watch your show but is there somewhere where just

00:31:17 just written out like this is who we're endorsing for yeah such and such position like what do you

00:31:23 recommend is something to follow that people can. So I would recommend, uh, basically pulling

00:31:29 together several different resources. So I would definitely look at Texas scorecard that will keep

00:31:33 you kind of overall engaged in the entire state. And that's who you're connected. And that's my

00:31:37 podcast is under that entity, but they do a lot of reporting, some other shows that talk about

00:31:42 other issues. Um, Texans for fiscal responsibility is a watchdog group that focuses on property taxes

00:31:48 and fiscal issues. So it's one of those where you can go there and find out who the good and

00:31:53 the bad ones are on these issues. They have what they call the fiscal index. So you can go there

00:31:57 and look at every state rep in Texas and how they rank when it comes to fiscal responsibility.

00:32:02 I'm just thinking of Don Huffines right now. We just recently went up to Broken Bow, my family,

00:32:06 another family in the church that we're close friends with. And we went up to Broken Bow,

00:32:10 stayed in the cabin, did a little vacation. And for miles, Don Huffines, I was like,

00:32:16 zero property taxes, or an actual Republican, or build a wall. And I was like, yeah, man,

00:32:22 that like that advertising works i was already i already knew about him yes i was like i love this

00:32:28 guy yeah absolutely so real quick can we talk about property taxes yes because so me coming

00:32:34 from california lots of people you know it's well some people came with us and praise god for that

00:32:39 but lots of people disagreed and a big part of their argument is well you know california needs

00:32:43 churches someone's got to stay and fight and i totally support that so biblically speaking i

00:32:47 I would say there is absolutely a theological category for what we would call a missionary, right?

00:32:52 So the idea of Christians willingly sacrificing their own personal comforts and pleasures for the good of someone else absolutely makes sense.

00:33:02 Now, I do think there are, I would have some disclaimers. 0.96

00:33:05 I'd say, one, there's a difference in sending missionaries to China or Russia or North Korea, places where people are trapped.

00:33:12 People aren't trapped in California.

00:33:14 Now, I know fiscally and practically, you can be essentially trapped because generations of your family leave there.

00:33:22 You can't just up and leave, even though you're financially hurting by virtue of being in California.

00:33:27 It still takes a lump sum of money to be able to move out of the state.

00:33:31 So you can be effectively trapped.

00:33:34 So the idea of having missionaries there, another good argument that I would have for Christians being in places like San Diego, which is where I was, is because I'm not a pacifist.

00:33:43 which means i believe that it's not only permissible but commendable for christian men to

00:33:46 serve in the military and if they're going to serve in the navy they're going to do some time

00:33:50 in san diego and those christian guys in the navy deserve to have a church yeah you know and so

00:33:54 there are reasons to stay um however at the same time i always encourage people who have chosen to

00:33:59 stay make sure you're fighting more than you're funding and i think that takes some brutal honesty

00:34:04 to actually okay let's look at my bank account um how much did i tithe and then how much did i pay

00:34:09 state taxes and and what did gavin newsom just say about his promise of becoming a sanctuary state

00:34:15 that not only state funds abortions there yeah but abortions from people in texas and idaho and

00:34:20 everywhere else if you know gets over like yeah okay so how much of my funding by the the analogy

00:34:25 that i would use illustration would be like if you had some covert you know um small you know

00:34:31 special forces platoon behind enemy lines and let's say you know they're they're militant um

00:34:37 they're strategic they're organized and about once a week they pick off you know whether it

00:34:43 be sniping or capturing or something someone of the enemy one person so they're taking down

00:34:47 one key person of the enemy on a weekly basis but the other six days of the week they actually

00:34:53 have set up a general store they actually have all these different supplies where they're actually

00:34:58 clothing and feeding offering medical supplies and treatment to the enemy and let's say the enemy

00:35:05 these enemy lines let's say it's like siberia russia whereas if they weren't providing these

00:35:10 resources if they just left the enemy would die out on its own so like for me you know the idea

00:35:15 of well i love california what i would say is me too um and that's why i left um by leaving

00:35:20 it's not that i i was stuck between two choices of love either loving california or leaving

00:35:25 it was i'm going i'm choosing to love california by leaving yeah um i'm fighting by my you know

00:35:32 fight by flight fighting by fleeing and uh and because i really believe that california the

00:35:37 only thing that's propping up all of its failed godless policies is the most precious people on

00:35:43 the planet these conservative christians that love the lord that have integrity in their business

00:35:47 practices and are doing these and if we all just left california i think would be would have a

00:35:52 major problem would have a major problem first of all just their tax revenue would have a major

00:35:55 exactly now all that being said back to the point about property taxes some some would say okay yeah

00:36:01 sure texas doesn't have a state tax and sure real estate's cheaper you know and all these kinds of

00:36:05 things and maybe not for long as things are hopefully they level off but uh because it

00:36:10 doesn't mean no good the fact that you know oh a couple hundred thousand dollars of of equity

00:36:14 in your house it's not i'm not doing anything what all it does is it makes my friends not able

00:36:19 to come here in my home so yeah i wanted to chill out but um but all that being said you know some

00:36:24 of the california buddies you know that would poke you know poke counter arguments and stuff

00:36:28 You know, they would say on the fiscal level, well, sure, there's no state tax, but your property taxes are property taxes.

00:36:34 They're crazy.

00:36:34 Right. 0.79

00:36:34 So what would you say? 0.99

00:36:35 And they are crazy.

00:36:36 It really is pretty phenomenal to watch.

00:36:38 It's been, we have this scheme in Texas that has allowed the government to get more and more of our citizens' money through appraisal increases.

00:36:46 And everyone wants to put Band-Aids on these problems.

00:36:50 But the reality is that over the last 10 years, more and more Texans get taxed out of their home.

00:36:54 And just, I really mean that tax out of their home.

00:36:57 Not a lot of people can afford to pay.

00:36:58 a thousand dollars a month in property taxes which is what a lot of these upper middle class

00:37:04 suburban areas are having and those are the same areas that we need churches that we need patriots

00:37:09 who are there invested engaged in their community and culture and yet these people are saying look

00:37:13 i can't even afford to live here um the property tax system and it feels like you're always renting

00:37:19 so even if i pay off my mortgage do i really own anything no because if you stop they have a first

00:37:25 Don Huffman's love to say they have a first lien on everything, right? You stop paying that property tax bill

00:37:30 They can take your whole house not mine and they don't even come take oh you owe us

00:37:33 $8,000 or not taking you know your car from we're taking your home, right?

00:37:38 So like we will take the entire and be fairly California still has you know one one point two

00:37:42 Yeah, I property taxes whereas right here in huddle where I'm at. Yes, we're like two point six five

00:37:47 Yes, you can get as low as like in the Williamson County area

00:37:50 My mother and father-in-law are at like one point nine. Yep

00:37:53 But then some are like 3, 3.2, 3.3.

00:37:56 And then, you know, in San Diego where I was, it was like 1.25.

00:38:00 And I was still actually ironically comparable, right?

00:38:03 Because the home in San Diego was $900,000 for a three bedroom, you know, 22, 2400 square feet, you know, two bathroom or one and a half.

00:38:11 So it was like 900 grand.

00:38:13 And so your 1.25% was still comparable to the 2.65 on a $450,000 home here in Texas.

00:38:20 But the problem is now, you know, that $400,000 home is $600,000, $650,000 in the Williamson County area, not even in Austin, not even in Travis County.

00:38:30 And so I'm thinking like, okay, I'm going to pay off my 30-year mortgage and I'm going to try to aggressively do that if the Lord provides in that way that I can build wealth for, you know, a wise man leaves an inheritance to his children's children.

00:38:41 I think it can never be anything less than the spiritual inheritance.

00:38:43 But I would argue that if you can, you should seek for it to be more spiritual and financial material.

00:38:49 And so I want to do all those things, but it's like, how am I going to pull that off

00:38:52 if I pay off my house early?

00:38:54 But 15 years from now, my monthly payment is still the same as it is today

00:38:57 because property taxes and my home gets revalued.

00:39:02 And so Don Huffines, back then, no property taxes.

00:39:05 I know he was saying scaling it back over 8 to 10 years, but how is that actually possible?

00:39:09 So the thing to understand if we get kind of wonky within the numbers

00:39:13 is that a big portion of your property tax bill you know are public schools.

00:39:17 Okay. And which I don't, one of the arguments is that we need to quickly fund public schools as

00:39:24 much from the state as humanly possible. And that would be the first portion of your property tax

00:39:28 bill that needs to go away. It's also easier to do just from a pure, if we're going to get kind

00:39:33 of wonky mathematical and policy perspective, because you can write a check to the school

00:39:38 district that buys down the amount of property tax that they take. Okay. So you can essentially

00:39:42 say if the current distribution, just to use easy numbers, is 50% of schools are funded from the

00:39:49 state giving money to public schools, and then 50% are funded from local property tax collections

00:39:54 that are being done, then the more money comes in to public schools, then the lower your property

00:40:00 tax bill goes eventually to zero. Now, the way that ends up working, just to show people kind

00:40:05 of mathematically, the way it could work is that if when Governor Abbott had taken over

00:40:09 the governorship back in 2014 and just said hey our state's growing we're going to keep the budget

00:40:17 where it's at okay just grow it like two or three percent so grow but like we're not going to grow

00:40:22 expand into any more new programs we're not going to start giving more money to all these universities

00:40:26 that are indoctrinating our kids we're not going to give tax breaks to all these companies coming

00:40:31 in so that they don't pay property taxes that's the thing is governor abbott and the state they

00:40:35 right checks to these corporations coming in so they say come here you won't pay property taxes

00:40:40 you know about samsung is coming so taylor i i i well i was there this morning actually visiting

00:40:45 a pastor friend um christ fellowship church great church and taylor if anybody lives in that area

00:40:50 so i was visiting pastor jeff ripple because we're partnering with him to do a conference in march

00:40:55 it's called the resisting uh tyranny and wokeness conference okay a guy named john harris from

00:40:59 conversations that matter yeah i know he's been on the podcast great yeah so so myself and 80 and

00:41:05 john we're teaming up and we're and uh this church in taylor christ fellowship church is hosting it

00:41:09 and so i was there scoping it out and getting prepared because our registrations have been

00:41:14 more than we expected and so can we fit everybody but anyways i can get there you know it's just a

00:41:18 hop and a skip i can get there in about 11 12 minutes from my house and samsung is coming into

00:41:23 taylor it's going to be right off the 79 which is part of the reason why my house is exploding in

00:41:27 value right now you know and and so it's going to be right off the 79 and and that's i'm sympathetic

00:41:33 to taylor and to these because they're like okay yeah like we'll we'll give you for the first 10

00:41:38 years you're gonna um we're gonna wave off i think it was like the deal they made was 90

00:41:42 percent yes of samsung's property taxes they don't have to pay if they come to taylor and and that

00:41:49 will benefit taylor yeah but then at the same time it's like that's being made up by the people on

00:41:54 taylor yeah yeah exactly i mean williamson county is making that up with all the rest of the citizens

00:41:59 exactly so they're not cutting their pain that's right they're not cutting their budget they're

00:42:03 not saying, hey, normally we would have made this much money from Samsung. We're going to cut our

00:42:07 budget that much so that we don't increase the burden. No, government's still growing at the

00:42:12 normal rate. And all it does is then shift more of it onto the normal people that are here that

00:42:16 have already moved here that are already contributing to the economy. There's a real

00:42:19 kind of question to ask too about, okay, so if I'm a business owner in Taylor, I'm paying my

00:42:25 property tax bill fully. Maybe I have some technology employees that are being poached by

00:42:31 Samsung. So now you're bringing in Samsung. They're going to pay my employees more. By the way,

00:42:36 one of the reasons they can is because they're not paying property taxes, which I am. So I've

00:42:40 been here for 20 years. I was here when Taylor was nothing. I've been contributing to this

00:42:44 community. I've been paying back all of these different things. It's crazy. If Governor Abbott

00:42:48 in 2014 had said, hey, we're going to take the extra growth because you have to understand our

00:42:53 economy as it's booming, gives us more and more and more tax revenue. And as inflation's going up,

00:42:58 we're bringing in massive record-breaking tax receipts. So all we have to do is say,

00:43:04 we're going to stop growing the existing government that exists. And as all this extra

00:43:09 money comes in, we're going to use that to buy people's property taxes down through public

00:43:13 education funding. I hope that's kind of simple enough to make sense to people.

00:43:17 Because you take this extra money, you give it to the public school system, but you don't give it

00:43:21 as a pay raise. You give it as this is money you're getting so that these people's property

00:43:27 taxes go down the same amount dollar for dollar and it's not additional no it's a substitute yes

00:43:32 and if you do that over a six to eight year time period you very quickly get rid of that portion

00:43:38 of your property tax bill and the key is getting rid of it where it can't come back so one of the

00:43:42 things don's promoted is putting it on the ballot where people in texas actually vote on it so that

00:43:47 it's in the constitution there is no school property tax as an example right and he hasn't

00:43:51 been that it could be a bunch of different ways you put it on the constitutional amendment and

00:43:55 And then you have the school, the cities, the counties, the MUDs, the PUDs, whatever other little utility districts you have.

00:44:03 And those basically have to get figured out in similar fashions.

00:44:07 You have to figure out what are you going to do with these local governments?

00:44:09 How are they allowed to get taxes potentially to replace some of the lost revenue they will have?

00:44:15 It's not hard for these kind of cities.

00:44:17 These kind of cities can make it up a lot easier because you have a lot of people moving in and a lot of commerce for like rural Texas, to be honest.

00:44:24 if you're out there in like a very small city in east or west texas they don't have a lot of sales

00:44:29 tax revenue the truth is they're going to depend more so on it so you i think there's some creative

00:44:34 conversations that we have to have of what that looks like but the point is that this goes back

00:44:39 to wealth creation you talked about the amount of wealth that would get created tomorrow if everyone

00:44:44 did not have just a school property tax portion of their bill it would just radically change their

00:44:49 their entire life. The school property tax portion of property taxes, that's close to 50%.

00:44:54 Yes, absolutely. It's the biggest chunk. It's the chunk. And Don has said that he really thinks

00:44:58 you should just get rid of all of it over time, which I completely agree with. I mean, if you had

00:45:03 no property taxes, first of all, then you'd own your home, period. You are renting your home from

00:45:08 the government and you can say the rent's cheaper. You're renting the land. Yeah. And I can't take my

00:45:12 house. Yeah. Yeah. And they're taking it from you if you don't pay that bill. Right. So, okay. So

00:45:16 what would you say about this so you don't know my personal story yeah i you know i'm the oldest

00:45:20 i was adopted and i'm the oldest of four and so my my sister she's the baby in the family

00:45:26 what well no no i'm the only adopted one so it's like my parents can conceive whatever was broke

00:45:31 got fixed god god seems to do that story pretty often you hear like a couple can't conceive they

00:45:37 adopt and then god opens the woman's womb and uh so i have two younger brothers and then i have the

00:45:42 baby sister. The baby sister is here with me and my parents are here with me, part of Covenant

00:45:47 Bible Church. And her husband, my brother-in-law, is my fellow elder at the church. Now my two

00:45:52 brothers in between myself and my sister, one of them is actually transgender and the other is a

00:45:57 Marxist. Now both I think would profess Christ. The Marxist, I lean towards him being a Christian

00:46:06 and confused, maybe a little bit too smart for his own good. The transgender one I would say is 1.00

00:46:12 not a Christian. He's not keeping in step with the gospel. I'm also confused, but to the point 1.00

00:46:18 where I would say, no, that's not under the banner. You just, no. And so my prayer for him

00:46:24 is a prayer for salvation. But my Marxist brother, we have a great relationship, and he watches the

00:46:30 show from time to time, and we respectfully can dialogue. It's nice because he's in this camp 0.99

00:46:37 surrounded by a ton of leftists and stuff but he actually has a spine he's actually masculine and

00:46:42 uh and not a snowflake and you know not triggered yeah exactly so yeah exactly so we can argue we

00:46:48 can debate and he doesn't cry or get his feelings hurt i'm probably more sensitive than he is so

00:46:52 he's he's a great guy um but one of the things he would say with property taxes is he would say joel

00:46:57 if we did away with property taxes we would return to feudal lord system uh within one generation

00:47:02 and so basically what he's saying is that if there were no property taxes there's no way so

00:47:07 even biblically you know you have every 50 years the year of jubilee yeah like there is some kind

00:47:11 of reset there's some kind of where the land and and possessions turn back over to their original

00:47:17 owner the original tribe that they you know the inheritance was in and you might say well then

00:47:22 you know that's not fair but it's like okay but that person who's losing it to this person

00:47:26 they're gaining it too because every everybody in israel was a descendant of one of these tribes 0.52

00:47:32 the only people who want to benefit in that is you know the foreigner the sojourner but even the

00:47:36 foreigner or the sojourner which biblically that that that word in the hebrew both foreigner and

00:47:42 sojourner which is translated you know stranger is still a legal citizen and not an illegal citizen

00:47:47 but there would be even benefits for them in the year jubilee and so there's this my point is there's

00:47:51 a reset things go back so my my brother his point is with the feudal lord system idea is saying

00:47:56 yeah um if there's not some kind of form of property tax or a year of jubilee or something

00:48:01 like that you just have you ever watched i think it was either tommy boy or black sheep but it's

00:48:07 david spade and uh and chris father they're playing checkers together and david spade beats

00:48:12 him like three four five times in a row and chris farley you know in his iconic way is uh getting

00:48:18 angry and uh david spade says oh man i can't believe i beat you this many times i've never

00:48:22 won this many times in checkers and he says well you know it's kind of easy to win when you never

00:48:26 move your back row and and that's kind of my brother's point is like without property taxes

00:48:32 no one will ever move their back row aka they won't sell they'll never sell and the land gets

00:48:38 eventually bought up there is no land and so then a few families ultimately own everything and no one

00:48:44 moving to Texas. Do you have any thoughts? There's going to be ramifications of no property

00:48:51 taxes. There's not a single state in the nation that doesn't have property tax of some form or

00:48:56 fraction. First and foremost, Tennessee has fractional property taxes compared to Texas.

00:49:02 It's a good example of a state that is being run conservatively. They don't have a state income

00:49:07 tax, by the way. There is no income tax. I'm telling you, we were talking to some of our

00:49:11 friends who lived in the Texas Hill Country who moved to the Nashville area and they were

00:49:15 talking about, you know, buying this $600,000 house. And all of a sudden they're looking

00:49:20 at their property tax bill and they're going, oh my gosh, this is like one fifth of what

00:49:24 we pay in Texas. Now, so I think we can at least realize that you can look at the other

00:49:29 states with significantly smaller property taxes than Texas and know this wouldn't be

00:49:34 a perfect argument against it, but you would at least know, hey, houses are still moving

00:49:39 in Tennessee, just to be clear. You know, so you can look at that scale. I have not seen a study

00:49:43 and I would love to look at one that says that the lower the property tax, the less likely somebody

00:49:47 is to sell. I think that it fundamentally gives somebody the dignity of homeownership where they

00:49:52 can't lose it. And I think that's really important. Here's the truth. The people who are being forced

00:49:58 to sell are people whose wealth is tied up in their home. So this is not the people who have

00:50:05 wealth outside of it.

00:50:06 What do you call it?

00:50:07 You're house poor?

00:50:08 Yeah.

00:50:09 I mean, you're house rich or house poor, right?

00:50:11 So house rich individuals, where most normal citizens, well, if you were, I would want to

00:50:17 say that like, if you were, yeah, if you were house poor, that might mean one, you mostly

00:50:23 are in debt for your home, right?

00:50:24 So I can have an $800,000 house that I owe $700,000 on, or I could have a lot more.

00:50:32 Most normal citizens accumulate their wealth through their home.

00:50:36 I mean, that's just the reality.

00:50:38 So the people that are being forced to sell because they can't afford their 8,000 a year

00:50:42 property tax bill, it's actually fundamentally changing their generational, one, their dignity

00:50:51 as a human being.

00:50:52 They own a piece of property and you know, even owning this home, it really changes your

00:50:56 psyche.

00:50:57 It does.

00:50:58 I think there's a reason that property ownership and private property rights are also things

00:51:01 that people have a long time held as Christian values generally and understanding that these

00:51:06 things were given to us and we've been given land, right?

00:51:10 And so when you look at that breakdown, I think that you would see that one, states

00:51:16 that have low property taxes don't have people just holding onto their homes, not selling

00:51:19 it.

00:51:20 Tennessee is a great example of a state that's growing a ton and people are selling their

00:51:23 property constantly.

00:51:24 Moving around.

00:51:25 And so, yeah.

00:51:26 They're moving their back row.

00:51:27 I think they will still have it.

00:51:28 And that would be okay.

00:51:29 don't think that that will actually occur when it comes to that and ultimately what you'll see is

00:51:34 that the people that do hold on to their homes will do so uh based on the fact that like they

00:51:40 want to hold on to this for generations and i think we would be better served long term

00:51:44 if we had portions of the population that never sold their home that held on to it and actually

00:51:49 said like this has been in my home for generations i think you'd have a very different perspective of

00:51:54 community you'd have people really thinking differently about where they're investing

00:51:58 where they're planting their roots i mean we have a societal problem of people not making

00:52:02 commitments in general right you're changing jobs every two years you're changing your house you

00:52:06 probably experienced this with people coming in and out of here you're going to have people that

00:52:10 if they're still at your church in five or six years that's gonna be the longest time they've

00:52:13 ever been totally yeah and i think i'll have more of that here but you're right even here it'll still

00:52:17 be transient um but it was incredibly transient in san diego yes and the the life of the san diegan

00:52:23 was we would say two to three years four four max um but it was it was constantly people leaving

00:52:28 And that's part of the reason why we left was financially, it was difficult.

00:52:30 Politically, we completely disagreed.

00:52:33 And then just our convictions of feeling like we could actually do more for California by leaving California.

00:52:37 But part of it also was thinking about my wife and thinking about my children and thinking about myself to a lesser degree.

00:52:44 But thinking we want long-term friendships.

00:52:46 And there was a core of the church there that's still there.

00:52:48 Some of the core came with us and some of them stayed.

00:52:51 But I realized, like, my kids, they're going to have to be making new friends.

00:52:58 for the most part maybe a few friends a few pieces of the puzzle that stay there consistently long

00:53:03 term but for the most part my kids are going to be making new friends every two to three years

00:53:07 because um even even if i can make it here nobody else can make it here and so there's it's one

00:53:14 thing for people to be transient because of a lack of commitment but it's one thing to have an

00:53:18 economic system yes and political policy set in place that actually incentivize or force outright

00:53:24 force people to, to basically be anti-community. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think that, and we, we, the more

00:53:31 we talk about property taxes in that way to recognize the oppression that it, that it really

00:53:36 levies on the citizenry to say, these people are lacking the ability to, to have the dignity of

00:53:41 homeownership be their choice, right? They have purchased a home, they have worked hard, but

00:53:47 here's the problem. We are in a system where that bill's going up. So if your job does not continue

00:53:52 to go up at the pace that it needs to go up five ten years you will be selling this home right

00:53:57 and we don't realize how much people lose when they don't have the ability to own that home and

00:54:04 so this is not look the wealthy are always going to have the ability to own a home just to be clear

00:54:08 and i would say my wife and i are are well off enough to where i don't know that we will ever

00:54:13 not own a home i think we're probably going to be okay right this is not going to benefit me

00:54:18 I mean, personally, it's going to, well, it would, because my property taxes would be

00:54:21 good.

00:54:22 It'll benefit everybody personally.

00:54:23 Even the wealthy.

00:54:24 But it will be way more impactful for somebody who is in a truly middle class income, even

00:54:29 lower middle class.

00:54:30 By the way, your mortgage is going to be less, because guess what?

00:54:36 Almost every mortgage you know has PITI built into it, so your taxes, so even just your

00:54:40 mortgage getting into it is significantly lowered as well, which means that more people

00:54:44 can get into homeownership fundamentally the sooner we can get uh if we can have a middle

00:54:49 class family actually own a home provide for their family to be um blake masters is a honestly a

00:54:56 phenomenal candidate running for us in arizona heard about him through charlie kirk good so he's

00:55:01 done some phenomenal uh honestly forward-thinking policies that he's pushed one of them being

00:55:06 that he really fundamentally believes that we need to have a country where you can feed your

00:55:12 family on one single income and this really is becoming harder and harder we've talked about

00:55:16 this the fact that more people are having to have two people work in order to pay their basic bills

00:55:23 yeah it's not greed no survival yeah these people aren't they're not both going to work so that they

00:55:28 can have this massive push 401k they're actually saying no we are both working because we want our

00:55:34 children to get a good education in order to get a good education we have to live in this upper

00:55:38 middle-class neighborhood right we want to just buy a car right we're not talking about the nicest

00:55:43 cars we're talking about suburban we're just talking about a four-door sedan but we're having

00:55:47 to spend twenty two thousand dollars to buy that and now we don't have that so we have to have a

00:55:51 payment the realities of what it costs to live you cannot do what you did decades ago which is that

00:55:57 dad or mom but primarily dad would go to work and get a job and provide for his wife and his

00:56:04 children. He could buy a home. He could provide a roof over their head. He could provide transportation.

00:56:09 There's lots of sources that have ultimately caused that problem. But I think one of the

00:56:13 chief ones that I've often blamed on our show and had guests to talk about, but I think one 1.00

00:56:18 of the big ones is feminism. Feminism liberated women from the home and then with a ball and 1.00

00:56:24 chain shackled them to corporations where now women actually don't have the freedom to stay 1.00

00:56:30 home a lot of women want to actually stay home with their kids and they can't and so feminism 1.00

00:56:35 for for again it's always the the rich that really benefit off of these things but those at the top 0.99

00:56:40 the wealthiest brackets and ceos and owners of companies and all those kind of things 1.00

00:56:44 they looked at feminism and they're like yeah i love feminism feminism because ultimately what 1.00

00:56:50 it allows me to do is it allows me to take a husband and wife and pay them half the salary

00:56:55 right and like if a man goes to his employer these days and says hey you're i'm doing good

00:57:00 work you're not paying me enough to have you know three kids and and to save for a college fund and

00:57:06 to have a mortgage and to own two cars the employer wouldn't say this but if we could give him truth

00:57:10 serum and get him to really share his thoughts he would say well what makes you entitled to think

00:57:14 that that's what you should be paying whereas that just used to be common knowledge somebody

00:57:18 could work at the local grocery store back in the day and they wouldn't be rich necessarily but they

00:57:22 but they would, you know, be paid a livable wage to have a family. And so anyways, but back to...

00:57:30 No, but that single income idea that families should be able to do that, I think is,

00:57:35 it's very interesting to see kind of how these things overlap, right? So while Don Huffines is

00:57:39 talking about this property tax elimination, Blake Masters is talking about, you know,

00:57:43 fundamentally reshaping our economic policy around an ideal. And what is the ideal? Our ideal is that

00:57:48 a family be able to provide on one income. And people have called him sexist for saying so and

00:57:54 other things like that. And it is interesting watching the left. All of a sudden, the left is

00:57:58 opposing the idea of a single family household, right? And he actually came out and said,

00:58:03 I don't know Blake's entire faith background, to be honest, so I can't speak to that necessarily.

00:58:08 But he said, I didn't say man, I didn't say woman, like I'm just running for Senate and said,

00:58:13 somebody should be able to provide on one income, but the left was so upset because they see that

00:58:19 as a threat. This fundamental core family, we're talking about the one on the family.

00:58:23 And I can say man for him. He doesn't have to say man. I'll say man.

00:58:26 And that's where I think that it's so interesting to see how some of these policies that we're

00:58:32 talking about do really allow families to prosper. And that's what we're talking about.

00:58:37 When we talk about these single incomes or the property tax issues, we're talking about

00:58:41 allowing families to actually prosper. And, um, government is not often geared towards that as

00:58:47 an idea. It's not being pushed. One of the policies that I might miss, I don't want to

00:58:53 misspeak this, but I think it's hungry. I'm pretty sure it is hungry where if you have four children

00:58:58 or more, you stop paying into social security. And this is one of the, your children will pay,

00:59:03 will actually pay. So we have all these families are having one kid, right? And it's like, okay,

00:59:08 you're actually causing this social security system to go bankrupt because you're making it

00:59:13 heavier on the top. And so it's a real fundamental math to say, hey, if you have four kids,

00:59:17 you stop paying social security taxes. I completely agree. So Romans 13, people forget 0.96

00:59:21 this, but the role of government first, you know, I would, so I would argue Ephesians 122, Christ is

00:59:26 not just head of the church, as John MacArthur, you know, famously said, you know, Christ, not

00:59:30 Caesar's head of the church. Yes. And amen. But he's also head of the state that Caesar,

00:59:33 the civil magistrate is God's servant or God's deacon. So ultimately Ephesians 1.22 says God has

00:59:40 appointed him as head of all things to the benefit of the church. And so Christ is uniquely head of

00:59:45 the church in the sense that the church is the only institution for which Christ died. But in

00:59:50 terms of authority, Christ is head of every institution within human society, including

00:59:55 the state. And so with all that being said, in terms of the state, its role, because it is

01:00:01 ultimately a deacon, an agent of God. It's God's avenger to punish the wrongdoer. But the other

01:00:07 part of it is to reward those who do good. And so as much as I am not for the government printing

01:00:13 money and passing it out like candy, at the same time, there is a God-given function of the state

01:00:19 to reward those who do good, punish those who do evil, but also reward those who do good.

01:00:23 And I think in terms of the benefit of society, one of the best goods that can be done is having

01:00:31 children yeah it's a service that we are providing to not just for my family but children really are

01:00:36 a blessing and a commodity a resource um to all of human society and so i say man if a couple is

01:00:43 willing to have multiple kids and provided they raise them well right it does no good to doug

01:00:48 wilson said this once he said you know samuel the prophet uh had two unruly sons and he says it

01:00:53 would have done him no good to have five unruly sons you know so so yes like blesses the man you

01:00:59 Children are like arrows, and blessed is the man whose quiver is full,

01:01:02 provided that they're good arrows, that they're sharp and they're straight,

01:01:05 and you don't shoot them like a boomerang.

01:01:07 They come back and actually hit you,

01:01:08 which is what some of our children are doing right now, right?

01:01:10 We send them out, and they're indoctrinated in these liberal institutions and colleges,

01:01:16 and they come back and turn on their own parents.

01:01:18 And so provided that people have many kids and raise those kids

01:01:21 in the fear and admonition of the Lord,

01:01:23 they're providing an incredible service,

01:01:26 not just to fellow Christians in society, but all of society,

01:01:29 whether they be Buddhist or Muslim or atheist, agnostic,

01:01:33 if you raise good Christian children that will work hard and exercise integrity

01:01:38 and generosity and all these kinds of things, you're providing a service.

01:01:41 And so for the government to say, yeah, we'll pay for that,

01:01:45 you rarely hear it come out of my mouth that I support the government paying for something,

01:01:49 but I would support that.

01:01:50 And I think it's actually biblical.

01:01:52 It's the rewarding of those who do good.

01:01:53 I think it's also really good to see these type of policies almost changing a little

01:01:59 bit within the Republican Party where they're realizing more and more families showing up

01:02:03 saying, oh, no, I'm for that policy.

01:02:05 And when you start polling, even people who would say, I'm a limited government conservative.

01:02:09 But yeah, if I have four kids, I'd love to stop paying Social Security taxes.

01:02:12 Or yes, I do think that we should kind of try to shape our economic policy around this

01:02:17 ideal of worth of income.

01:02:18 I think it's been challenging to kind of the ruling class elite to deal with that kind of

01:02:24 shift within the party because this has not been their incentive. One of the organizations that

01:02:28 I'm a big fan of is the American Principles Project. And they are based in DC, but they've

01:02:33 recently opened up a Texas office. They deal with a lot of the transgender issues. They deal with

01:02:38 pornography regulation and trying to limit children's access to pornography and other

01:02:42 things like that that no other family organizations are pushing. But one of the things that they do

01:02:48 is they call their membership which is fruit big family so they talk about big pharma and big

01:02:54 business and the big gun lobby and the big you know green lobby and all this different stuff and

01:02:59 they'll go well we want to be the big family so they want to come in and say we're for big family

01:03:03 and so we represent mafia yes yes no but it's like that's awesome we're gonna look at this

01:03:08 policy is nope that hurts families nope that's hurts families and so i think there was i loved

01:03:13 the way they shaped it because i said look this is what we need we need somebody stamping them

01:03:17 saying, nope, not good for a few months. Hey, you're expanding. They were expanding. I'm going

01:03:22 to get off on a different Texas policy. But just to give people examples of real life areas that

01:03:26 could have benefited, Governor Abbott wanted to put billions of dollars into expanding rural

01:03:31 broadband. So the government's going to pay to dig all these lines and get faster internet to all

01:03:35 these rural communities. And so Representative Jeff Kaysen at the time from North Texas put on

01:03:40 an amendment on this legislation that said that the internet provided through this expansion had

01:03:46 to by default have porn filtered okay so it means when you order the internet and it comes to your

01:03:51 house you can't get on pornographic websites now you can call and ask them hey can you lift the

01:03:58 filter this is done in great britain and 75 percent of the homes keep the filter on and so

01:04:04 the reality is that then any phones on the network cannot access this pornographic content i don't

01:04:10 call it adult content because adults shouldn't be consuming it either that's right but the reality

01:04:13 is that yes we had we had this there uh it was in the bill it went and the senate stripped it out

01:04:20 the governor didn't say anything about it it was his personal it was one of his top three bills

01:04:24 and everyone was pushing him to say hey come out and say you support this porn filter on it he

01:04:28 stayed silent it got stripped out he had a signing ceremony where he talked about how good the bill

01:04:33 was and the reality was one i don't even think the bill's that good because i think it's going

01:04:37 to be a waste of money but there was this fundamental opportunity to say hey here's a

01:04:41 policy that we can make pro-family that's right you know what men don't want to ask their wives

01:04:46 hey can we call at&t and lift the porn filter you know what they do what the kids don't want

01:04:50 to ask their parents like hey why can't i get on this website they're not right yeah and so anyway

01:04:55 israel does it even uh hardcore they they actually uh if you call and and ask for the filter to be

01:05:04 removed they put you on a public registry so like if you're in your neighborhood you can go on just

01:05:10 like sex offenders and see like which people on your block and you go hey tom don't go to that

01:05:14 house like i don't know what they're doing that there's five houses on this block and one of them 0.76

01:05:18 does not have a filter so like we're going to stay out of that home israel does that yeah wow 0.66

01:05:23 isn't it pretty phenomenal yeah so um there's just there's these real life policies i think 0.61

01:05:28 texas has an opportunity on the pornography issue particularly to really lead the nation and say

01:05:33 we're going to be the first state that requires the internet provided have that porn filter on

01:05:38 anyone when you have families that move in from california they're not even going to know they're

01:05:42 going to call at&t or spectrum and say i need internet what's your price 50 what's your price

01:05:46 40 get the internet and they're going to realize oh wow you can't visit any of these websites yeah

01:05:51 and then if you call spectrum and wait online and click all the buttons maybe you can get it lifted

01:05:55 um it decreases consumption massive oh i bet i mean just imagine imagine if in texas specifically

01:06:03 we decrease pornography consumption right you know 70 percent overnight yeah huge impacts on

01:06:08 society yeah you know the lessons that would happen on family marriages children he's mad

01:06:13 economically yeah like i mean it just drains a man's drive yeah his his ambition in every aspect

01:06:20 of life it just yeah i completely agree so let's all that's super helpful and i like that you got

01:06:25 really practical you were able to cover some names some different offices things things that are

01:06:29 pertinent and relevant and specific, but then also some specific policies. These are the kind

01:06:34 of things that, you know, I often have guests on the show and we talk in terms of theological

01:06:38 overarching principles, which is helpful, but to have somebody who's, who this is what you do,

01:06:43 you know, and that you're, you're educated and knowledgeable, uh, because I'm, I'm just,

01:06:48 I'm still learning these things. And so it's super helpful. Um, but I'd like to land the plane. So

01:06:53 this is my thought. I know we can go for a while. Well, yeah, yeah. But, but I'd like to land it

01:06:56 here specifically i'm thinking about all right so i came from california i would like other

01:07:01 christians to leave california um i do think there's a case to stay like i said like i said

01:07:05 earlier there are other exceptions that i would add in there if we had more time other exception

01:07:09 clauses for for leaving uh reasons to stay um but by and large in general i really do think that a

01:07:15 lot of christians in california are doing more funding if they were really brutally honest

01:07:20 they're funding more than they're fighting and california i'm picking on california because

01:07:23 that's where i came from but yeah fill in the blank new york this blue state that blue state

01:07:27 um but based off of our conversation we said all right here's the good the bad and the ugly

01:07:32 of texas there are some good things but there's some bad and ugly so so if i'm a california

01:07:38 christian a california conservative right now and i've made the decision to leave

01:07:42 and and i've been listening to the podcast this episode up until this point i might be thinking

01:07:47 well maybe i should go to florida yeah south dakota florida montana yeah yeah idaho um

01:07:53 you know texas sounds like it's not really that conservative and i would say yeah well in some

01:07:59 sense it's not that conservative but i i think in terms of like like the the battle the war and

01:08:04 then there's isolated but but very strategic and pivotal battles the battle of bunkers hill and

01:08:09 and so i think like the reason why i think we should stop fighting with it with an active

01:08:14 presence in california is a couple reasons one because i i think um that's not a raging battle

01:08:20 people say oh the battle's raging california no the battle was raging about 20 years ago in

01:08:24 california you're now fighting in a graveyard the battle's over you lost you lost um and and

01:08:31 here's the thing we're not running from a fight right um we're um whenever there was one famous

01:08:36 general who said maybe it was cromwell or something but uh whenever that he would retreat

01:08:40 we're not retreating we're just advancing to the rear and so so the way i see is we're not running

01:08:44 from a fight um you're running to a fight and so i would argue for texas not because it's the most

01:08:50 conservative state in the union but because it is more significant yes like big states the way we

01:08:55 started the conversation all the way back to the beginning of the episode it is more significant

01:08:58 than south dakota and yes we can have a conservative bastion you know and we're in the proverbial

01:09:03 timbuk too but we don't want to just be safe we want to be we want to be significant we want to

01:09:08 went in the larger war so i would say texas because of its size um and its influence it's

01:09:13 significant and i would say that um texas i think of revelation i think it's either two three or

01:09:19 three two that says strengthen that which still remains but is about to die i think there are

01:09:24 states in the union that have died virtually nothing remains and then there are places where

01:09:29 where almost everything remains it you know you're south dakota but then there are places where it's

01:09:35 like there's life but there's also there's stage four cancer but there's still hope and and i'm and

01:09:42 so i just feel like we need this and as many reinforcements here as possible i think texas is

01:09:47 bunkers hill i think this is the pivotal place if texas falls i think we're we're in a world of hurt

01:09:55 so could you make a case for the the provisions of texas the safety the reason why it is a good

01:10:00 place to raise your family, but also the reason why we can't let go of Texas. So I think your safe

01:10:07 versus significance is a great example of just kind of your different options, right? You could

01:10:12 look and say, hey, if I go to Montana, you know, I'm not, I think I can do whatever I want. It's

01:10:17 like, yeah, that's because no one even knows you're there for the record. I mean, there's so

01:10:20 few people that you're like, I don't even know if they know somebody moves into the area. They don't

01:10:24 run into each other. So there is a safe versus significance aspect. I also think that to the

01:10:29 extent that we need to talk about the cancers in our state. It's important. And some people,

01:10:36 I have friends of mine who love to death and listen to my show and other stuff on a regular

01:10:41 basis and they go, man, you're sometimes pretty down. And I said, well, look, I'm actually very

01:10:45 hopeful about the future of Texas, but I believe that in order to have a bright future, you have

01:10:50 to talk about the problems. Because the reason California got where it got was because it was

01:10:56 in a good position and nobody talked about the cancers that were underneath and so therefore

01:11:01 all of a sudden people wake up decades from now and they go oh my gosh we'll try to save it and

01:11:05 at that point is good you kind of alluded to is like it's too far gone texas is not too far gone

01:11:11 and and the problems we have are easily solved and the politicians that are there either politicians

01:11:17 are with us some or a lot of the elected officials are just scared and the key is that the more light

01:11:23 that's shown on these issues, the more they start to capitulate. And so I think we have a real

01:11:27 opportunity where the more men and women of faith and families of faith are stepping up and engaging

01:11:34 in the arena, the more the political elite class is having to reorient their ideas and policies and

01:11:43 priorities in order to accommodate that issue they have. They pick the path of least resistance.

01:11:50 And so the more people come in and go, I'm going to demand this as an ideal, the more they go, well, actually, the less resistant issue is to go in this direction.

01:11:59 And so, one, I do think there's a lot of hope for where Texas is going.

01:12:02 I don't think we're too far gone by any means.

01:12:05 In fact, we are not anymore close to purple.

01:12:08 You're going to see that this next November, that Texas is going to be double digits red across the board.

01:12:12 We're going to expand our representation in the House and the Senate and all these other areas.

01:12:16 the question though remains what will we do with that and the only reason that that gets wielded

01:12:22 in a way that benefits this society and these people is if more and more people are engaged

01:12:28 which is why i'm i love coming on and talking about these issues because it's like if people

01:12:32 don't then engage then what's going to happen is we're just going to take a little more power and

01:12:36 not do anything with it and eventually yes we will slowly fade into that area safe versus

01:12:40 significance an absolutely phenomenal um phenomenal thing and yes there are some core

01:12:45 constitutional protections that we now have after

01:12:47 Greg Abbott shut down our churches during

01:12:49 the shutdown, which is phenomenal to watch a Republican

01:12:51 governor shut down churches in a

01:12:53 state. Greg Abbott's super

01:12:55 courageous in standing

01:12:57 up to previous Greg Abbott.

01:12:59 Yes. No, he really is.

01:13:01 And he staunchly

01:13:02 opposed his previous policies. But

01:13:05 we now put it in the Texas Constitution

01:13:07 that churches may never be closed

01:13:09 again. And the cool thing is that means that

01:13:11 Greg Abbott can never close a church again.

01:13:13 It also means any other bad politician that shows up, can't close a church again.

01:13:17 Think of the power that that gives the church and the idea that even if a, even if her governor

01:13:24 got worse, that governor could never, ever, ever close a church service.

01:13:28 They would need two thirds majority in both chambers to pass something and the people

01:13:32 of Texas to vote to take that out of the constitution.

01:13:35 And that's where we have, I think, super strong protections that give people still kind of

01:13:41 a core base to come here and engage and know that they are protected. And I've heard that Texas

01:13:46 has some of the best pro homeschooling policies. Absolutely. Yeah. And that's another reason why

01:13:52 a lot of families conservative. 100%. I mean, the Texas Homeschool Coalition, my dad serves on the

01:13:57 board of the Texas Homeschool Coalition. I've been, of course, we've been members for a very

01:14:00 long time. And Tim Lambert's a phenomenal man. Literally, he was homeschooling when it was

01:14:05 illegal to homeschool. Okay. This guy has been a pioneer. And if people should be connected to

01:14:10 this organization because they have fought tirelessly and will continue to fight not only

01:14:14 for homeschool rights, but parental rights in general. They've even fought for policy specific

01:14:19 to parental rights. In fact, they put out some statements about Don Huffines and Greg Abbott.

01:14:23 And the reason they supported Huffines over Abbott was because they've been pushing for

01:14:27 more parental rights protections in Texas for a long time that Abbott hasn't supported.

01:14:31 And we're very hopeful because the Republican Party and even Governor Abbott caved and put

01:14:36 out this plan for parental rights protections legislation that he's been opposing his entire

01:14:41 time because he sees this goes back to that reality that he sees the ground shifting and

01:14:45 he sees these people demanding these rights and protections i thank you for having me i just want

01:14:50 to remind everybody and i know you do this on the show every time but um our we are so blessed

01:14:58 that we have been given as a free gift from god eternal life through jesus christ yeah and that

01:15:06 gives us far more courage than compared to anybody else. You know, we can have these conversations

01:15:12 about the world we live in and the battles that we engage in and the spiritual realities of the

01:15:17 world around us. And how do we apply that in our life and how we live it out every single day?

01:15:22 And the confidence that we are given through the accomplished work of Christ is what then gives us

01:15:29 the confidence to then go out and boldly serve. And I think that that really gives us an ability

01:15:36 to fight fearlessly in a political arena where people are not used to that. They don't know how

01:15:45 to deal with people. They're dominated by the fear of man. And the only thing that delivers

01:15:48 you from the fear of man is the fear of God. You actually attribute to God, you accredit to God

01:15:56 more weight right that old testament word of course is in the new testament as well but glory

01:16:02 it signifies weightiness and and this view that man is not glorious man is made from the dust and

01:16:09 to dust he will return but god is eternally glorious he carries weight therefore his opinions

01:16:15 his thoughts what he says his word about me that's that's what carries weight that's what i should

01:16:22 fear um this reverence of i care about what god thinks of me not what man thinks of me and you're

01:16:28 absolutely right so i think it's the fear of man and then we saw over the last two years with covid

01:16:32 the fear of death um and so i think you know the fear of the lord uh it delivers us from the fear

01:16:38 of man but then exactly what you said christ um in our salvation eternal life frees us from the

01:16:43 fear of death that hebrews i think it's hebrews chapter 2 verses 12 i think through 14 it says

01:16:48 that Jesus likewise he partook of the same flesh as the children of man so that he by his death

01:16:56 might deliver us from the one who has authority over death namely the devil that he might deliver

01:17:03 us from lifelong slavery to the fear of death and so ultimately what it's saying is that human

01:17:09 beings have this constant whether it's conscious or not or subconscious we have this constant

01:17:14 perpetual dread of death, this sense, this groaning sense of our own mortality. We know.

01:17:21 We know that we're fragile. We know that this life is not indefinite. And Jesus, by his death,

01:17:30 he freed us from slavery to the fear of death. And I think that's what we saw over the last two

01:17:35 years is with the threat of doom and destruction, the imperial college model, and 2.2 million deaths

01:17:41 If we don't, you know, completely surrender all of our rights, you know, and all these things, it just revealed that so many people are afraid of death.

01:17:50 And so I think, you know, with politicians, you've got the fear of man and with the public, you've got the fear of death.

01:17:56 And but the gospel saves us from both and we can freeze us to be courageous.

01:18:03 So thanks so much for coming on the show.

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The NXR Podcast - March 01, 2022

THEOLOGY APPLIED - Leave California, Come To Texas

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