00:00:57.140Real quick, before we get started, I've got some exciting news to announce.
00:01:01.760I've got A.D. Robles and John Harris from Conversations That Matter coming out for a whole weekend in the month of March to join up on a Friday.
00:01:11.880We're going to come in our studio right here, and all three of us are going to record a multiple-part series on some of the subject matter that you guys have requested that the three of us address through our YouTube comments.
00:01:24.200Some of you have emailed, we're taking that into consideration as well, but we're definitely
00:13:41.740Well, maybe because they went through a K-12 system, and in a lot of those systems, they are run by leftists who are giving you leftist ideology.
00:13:50.600And then you go to a publicly funded state university, and we know that Texas A&M just finally this year after a lot of pressure canceled its drag show that it's been having for the last several years.
00:14:01.460this is a texas college that people would tell you is a more conservative texas college they've
00:14:05.820been having a taxpayer funded drag show on their on their locations you've got they are training
00:14:11.020up the teachers with these general marxist ideas and then sending them into the classroom and so
00:14:16.280it's this never-ending loop so we have a real problem when it comes to indoctrinating our own
00:14:21.460populace and just in the last year or two we finally i think started to bring a lot more light
00:14:26.720to that where people are waking up citizens are waking up they're starting to demand action
00:14:31.380on it because they're realizing we can't sustain this. If we're funding our own demands, it's a
00:14:38.240pretty big problem. Right. No, I completely agree. So I was going to bring that up, you know, in
00:14:42.600terms of, you know, people say that it's California that's turning Texas blue and those kinds of
00:14:46.720things. But I completely agree with you. The person who makes that transition from California
00:14:51.640or New York to a state like Texas or a state like Idaho tends to be a person who is conservative
00:14:57.300and is looking for conservative freedoms that come from conservative policies.
00:15:02.740And it seems like people make that connection.
00:15:04.900It seems like the people who are embracing liberal ideology and policies
00:15:10.020are the people who take it for granted.
00:15:12.420And it just seems like that's kind of the pattern almost of just human history.
00:15:17.660Well, I can't remember the theologian who said this,
00:15:20.360but in terms of Christian faith and the gospel,
00:15:23.280is that the first generation believes the gospel,
00:15:25.600the second generation assumes the gospel the third generation neglects the gospel and the
00:15:30.880fourth generation rejects the gospel and it's it's almost like generationally things get so bad and
00:15:38.800and then you it's almost like you need a war with russia or china and communism to be reminded oh
00:15:44.440that's why we don't entertain those policies that's why socialism doesn't work that's why
00:15:49.580you know whatever it is and so what how are we going to turn it around what do you think the
00:15:54.500solution is? I think that's a great question. Do we have to just wait for disaster? Yeah.
00:16:01.040Unfortunately, a lot of people do sometimes wait for that disaster to wake up. People are very
00:16:05.880upset when they do hear the type of things that are going on. You know, we have two clinics in
00:16:10.120Texas who are sexually transitioning children, right? They are professionals at doing this.1.00
00:16:15.920You can bring them a three-year-old boy and say, I want my three-year-old boy to be a three-year-old
00:16:21.020girl and they will help you facilitate that lie to that child okay this is child abuse we know it
00:16:28.280is but it's not defined as child abuse in texas unfortunately and our lawmakers haven't done so
00:16:32.840they've known this is going on for years three years ago was the first time this really came
00:16:37.020to light in a pretty significant way and there's been a coalition of us that have been working on
00:16:41.060advancing a policy to say we need to stop this in texas because not only are we transitioning our
00:16:45.920own children we're transitioning children outside of texas and so it starts with psychological
00:16:49.660therapies you sit down with a uh a psychologist probably in a setting like this and they ask you
00:16:54.840a bunch of questions about what you think about when you see these pictures and you know what do
00:16:58.480you think about when you think of girls and boys and and they're helping transition you and then
00:17:02.760they're going to have a coming out party and you're going to be declared as the opposite sex
00:17:07.040and then they're going to tell your public school that you are the opposite sex and then your0.78
00:17:10.780teachers are going to start calling you a female name instead of a male name even though you're
00:17:14.200still a boy and this is the reality that's happening they'll start blocking these kids
00:17:18.200puberty at 9, 10, 11 years old. And these drugs are all legal in the state of Texas. When you
00:17:23.740bring this to light, the vast majority of the populace is pretty upset. And I think there's
00:17:29.740a hope that this type of content being brought to the light does wake up a lot of Texans. We have to
00:17:38.080push it out there more in order for them to go, whoa, not in my backyard. Because we kind of
00:17:44.360think that all this must be happening in California, right? Oh, in New York, they're
00:17:47.700definitely doing this to the kids no they're doing it here and most politicians are just
00:17:51.700really scared to disrupt the status quo they they want to take the path of least resistance and one
00:17:57.900of the things the left does very well is they're militantly against you if you try to come after
00:18:02.840them and so it creates this culture and environment where these politicians go i don't really want to
00:18:07.660touch this issue so i feel like these type of things being brought to light um really do give
00:18:13.720us a potential to wake people up maybe before we're into catastrophe. Yep. So who are some of
00:18:20.760the players? Let's name some names because we have an election that is coming up. And I think
00:18:25.440by the time we release this episode, it's going to be election day, election day, March 1st in
00:18:30.460Texas. And so who are some of the major players, whether it be, you know, attorney general or
00:18:36.460whether it be, you know, governor, who are some of the guys who are not just your neocons,
00:18:40.920not just your mitt romneys but a true conservative and ideally um a true conservative that in the way
00:18:47.320i like to say it is you know there are people who have adopted christ principles but i always say
00:18:52.280you know christ principles apart from christ person will not produce christ peace and so there
00:18:57.260are people who are conservatives but they're hanging these conservative virtues in midair
00:19:01.580they don't actually have the christian foundation so who are some guys who are true conservatives
00:19:06.140an actual republican um but but also an actual christian they have a world view to sustain those
00:19:13.020things so that we know that you know um i think of ephesians chapter four that talks about every
00:19:17.680wind and wave of doctrine that tosses us yes to and fro um who are the guys who have the world
00:19:23.060view the anchor so that they won't you know five years from now betray their voter base um no it's
00:19:30.340it's uh so this is coming out on election day uh hopefully a decent amount of people have
00:19:35.860already voted about 55 percent of broadcast early in texas we have election day if somebody's
00:19:40.420watching this and they haven't voted they can go vote right they can they can look it up or call
00:19:44.420their elections office and figure out their precinct you don't need your voter card a lot
00:19:47.700of people think you need your voter card to vote you just need your driver's license you can walk
00:19:51.300in and so that is um some nice things that afford people the opportunity to engage in the process
00:19:56.900process uh the the election we have in front of us then i want to talk about elections as a whole
00:20:01.220if that's okay but the election's right in front of us you know we do have problems one of the
00:20:04.880in fact i've had a lot of conversations over the last two weeks with voters i sent out a voter guide
00:20:09.460in san antonio a personal voter guide to my neighbors i started getting called by all these
00:20:13.380people who said hey i want to know why uh i shouldn't vote for abbott because he's not on
00:20:17.940your list yeah answer that answer that question right there so i'll go and because when i first
00:20:22.700moved here i was like hey abbott's you know taking this but then as it as some time went by i realized
00:20:26.860oh abbott's number one abbott's taking a stand against abbott so he's taking a strong stand
00:20:33.240against that policy that he actually put in place and all of it's basically like you know like how
00:20:38.300do you find out what abbott's going to do um well you just look at what ron desantis did six months
00:20:43.280before yeah you know a lot of people do say that and maybe you're like well it'd be a lot easier
00:20:46.900we just have desantis be our governor and then uh we could take our cues from him when he actually
00:20:51.820does it as opposed to six months later yeah yeah we uh on the on the gender transitioning issue we
00:20:58.160have been pushing this for three years we have a coalition of people built all across the state
00:21:01.460the republican party of texas even got involved and put it on the last two primary ballots in
00:21:05.780fact if you go vote there's some propositions that the republican party has put there and the0.99
00:21:10.280top one is texas should ban the transitioning right of children and the reason it's on there
00:21:16.680is because it still hasn't been done and the party is trying to put pressure on abbott to
00:21:20.760support the policy because he didn't support it last session the senate passed three different
00:21:25.000bills that would have dealt with the issue and the texas house killed them and the texas house
00:21:29.160not only killed them but you know just so people get a little bit of an understanding of how
00:21:32.840politics works the governor will stay silent on any issue that he is okay for the legislature to
00:21:40.920kill okay that is kind of the unspoken understanding between the chambers which means that if the
00:21:46.280governor is just quiet, then the House, which is more loyal to him than the Senate, then the House
00:21:51.480will say, okay, if this bill dies, the governor won't be that upset. In fact, he might even be
00:21:56.900happy. But he wouldn't come out. What Republican would come out and say, I don't want this
00:22:00.460legislation on my desk. If he does want the legislation to pass, he'll make a very simple
00:22:05.260statement. He'll say something like, you know, I would love to sign a bill that bans the sexual
00:22:11.760transitioning of children in Texas. I would love to sign that bill if it got to my desk.0.99
00:22:15.900And that sends the message to the House that says, you better move this bill. And if you don't,
00:22:20.860now the governor's against you, right? But the truth is, he's been silent on this policy for
00:22:25.880three years. And to the point to where after it died, he has these subsequent special sessions.
00:22:30.920And in a special session, any bill can be considered as long as the governor, what we say,
00:22:35.680puts it on the call. And so the lieutenant governor asked him, he actually came out publicly and said
00:22:40.320that he asked the governor, he told the Mark Davis show this, I asked Governor Abbott to put
00:22:44.360the ban on sex change surgeries on kids on the call. He didn't do it. The Republican Party of
00:22:49.700Texas asked him to put it on the call. He didn't do it. A majority of Texas House members co-authored
00:22:54.680a bill to ban it, but he wouldn't put it on the call. The Senate passed it three times.
00:22:58.360So there's these kind of issues where he's blatantly ignoring the problem, if that makes
00:23:04.380sense. We actually found out, and Don Huffines, who's running against Mr. Abbott, brought this
00:23:09.540to light he actually found so the department of family protective services is cps they're who
00:23:14.140investigate child abuse they have an entire page on their website dedicating to celebrating lgbtqia
00:23:20.520children their peers and their parents the whole page and they literally said they had a resource
00:23:26.240there that says do you want to know the difference between sex and gender because remember the left
00:23:30.420thinks those are two different things right the gender is just in your head it's very fluid
00:23:33.920whatever you want sex is just what you're born with but you can change your gender and even that
00:23:37.600second category so there's sex biological sex and gender and even that second category second
00:23:42.400category yes they would break up and subdivide into there's gender identity there's gender
00:23:46.920expression yeah so it's like what do you think you are then what do you project to the world
00:23:52.520that you are and then there's sexual orientation which has to do with attraction so so so i could
00:23:58.160be a biological male sex and then i could say uh but my in terms of gender my sexual identity is
00:24:04.160female so i think i'm female but i project you know uh pan or a female again i project that to
00:24:12.040the world and then i'm a pansexual over here in terms of sexual orientation i like anything
00:24:16.180right yeah exactly and so standing for all right whereas in terms of the bible it's nice because
00:24:21.360it's simple and true male and female yeah created yep so um we have a we have a pansexual representative
00:24:28.520in Texas, a Democrat from El Paso. Very sad reality. And yeah, and I know that she's probably
00:24:35.440been through a tremendous none her life of abuse and people mistreating her. And it's so sad to
00:24:41.780see how different people medicate their pain. And this is the reality of where we're at in the state
00:24:46.760of Texas. But that being said, when Greg Abbott's state agency was caught promoting, celebrating
00:24:54.740these lgbtqia lmnop children their peers their parents uh don huffines called them out and
00:25:02.080within three days that whole website was taken down wow and the problem is though somebody's
00:25:06.780signing off on this stuff does that make sense i mean these this is not andrew cuomo or gavin
00:25:11.220newsom putting it out and us catching them we're catching our own because they're just letting so
00:25:16.340many of these things through so i think you have a real example there um and you know everybody
00:25:20.760anybody who listens to my show knows that i probably like don huffines i've supported him
00:25:24.460i've donated to him so on a personal level i'm voting for him he was a homeschool dad five kids
00:25:29.500um he he and his whole family are strong committed um catholics and uh just has uh have you heard of
00:25:37.040cross politic real quick just to briefly yeah go ahead cross politic uh we've had them on our show
00:25:41.620theology applied um and they're in moscow idaho with doug wilson yes yes very familiar okay great
00:25:47.900So Toby Sumter, he's like an associate pastor with Doug Wilson.
00:25:58.740Like the Scottish performer John Knox was like, give me Scotland lest I die.0.99
00:26:03.080And so Chalk Knox is saying, give me the black community lest I die,0.98
00:26:06.660realizing that they're constantly being preyed upon and used for their black skin0.97
00:26:10.760for typically a bunch of rich white guys who are making property off of them.
00:26:15.960you know the democratic party has always been pro-slavery yeah one form or another they've
00:26:20.960always been the racist party so and sadly today is no exception so anyways those guys and then
00:26:25.520gabriel wrench and he's actually on the board for right response ministry so okay those guys are
00:26:29.440great and they just had don huffines on the show and and they endorsed him and so i say all that
00:26:35.460to say he's he's got my vote great as well so that's awesome back to you don no so i think
00:26:40.440no and he's been willing to define these cultural issues as what they are it's a spiritual battle
00:26:45.280And he's talked about that publicly, saying we're in a spiritual battle as well.
00:26:49.780I think having leaders that are willing to discuss the battles that we are in as battles of good versus evil really do set us apart and give us a unique opportunity.
00:26:59.080If you don't know that that's the battle you're in, then how are you going to actually fight appropriately, if that makes sense?
00:27:05.880There's quite a few strong Christian men in the legislature.
00:27:33.840So Brian Slayton, so I'm not familiar with him.
00:27:35.520But what would he say if he was sitting in your chair right now and I said,
00:27:39.000what do you think about the heart of the bill?
00:27:40.660how he responded so he voted for it there's various different people that have different
00:27:45.080opinions on it um he said his position would be that he voted for the heartbeat bill um he did
00:27:51.780express publicly some concerns on different ways the heartbeat was crafted and his republican
00:27:57.520colleagues honestly just massively criticized him for doing so because yeah even somebody just
00:28:02.760getting up and saying hey could this be better could we actually do better are we concerned
00:28:07.180about any of these things so he voted for but he wasn't killing abolition you know bills that would
00:28:12.420have abolished yeah so he supported a bill he he filed the bill to abolish abortion he then
00:28:18.640asked repeatedly stephanie click is a state representative she's the chairman of public
00:28:23.720health and she's the one who interestingly enough slow rolled the bill to ban sex change surgeries
00:28:29.480she's the same woman who refused to have a hearing on the abolish abortion bill so she refused to
00:28:36.640even have a hearing a chairman in texas you'll kind of learn how the process works a chairman
00:28:40.780in the texas house is basically a king over that policy area so if i'm the chairman of public health
00:28:45.660i get to decide whether all abortion bills even get to be heard wow and they don't have a chance
00:28:51.800to be voted on if i don't even have a hearing and then i can even have a hearing on a bill and
00:28:55.520decide to never vote on it and none of the members of my committee can make me vote on this bill i'm
00:29:00.180the chairman i have ultimate authority so stephanie click who is actually in a very tough race up in0.51
00:29:05.400the North Texas area. It's the North Richland Hills, Watuga area, just around the Fort Worth
00:29:11.600Arlington region in Tarrant County. She's got five opponents and all of these people are running
00:29:17.180against her because she slow rolled this legislation. She helped kill the ban on1.00
00:29:23.100sex change surgeries. She refused to even let a hearing be held on abolishing abortion.
00:29:27.520And so I think Brian would tell you that every Republican state rep there campaigned as a
00:29:33.900conservative like none of them went around their communities and said hey you know what i'm kind of
00:29:37.940more like the middle the road kind of guy vote for me they all said they're all over here and
00:29:43.860they're going to fight for you and then brian would probably tell you the same that the handful
00:29:47.900of the good guys do tell you which is that when they get there and they close the doors and you're
00:29:52.060in a republican caucus that's when all of a sudden all these people say we don't really need to do
00:29:56.000that and you know like we can't like abolish abortion right and we can't like stop all sex
00:30:01.460change surgeries you know you just have these conversations and you realize none of y'all would
00:30:05.900say this in public none of you would tell anybody in your district this you're just saying it here
00:30:11.260so that we maybe decide not to address it from a public policy perspective brian's a great one
00:30:17.620for people to be aware of it's honestly one of those where you just find a couple of them that
00:30:22.000you can trust and then you can actually follow what's happening in austin and they'll help
00:30:26.900empower and inform so that you know how to turn around and try to get other people you and i've
00:30:32.440talked about patrick mcginnis i know he's running here in the williamson county area very strong
00:30:36.140conservative been a committed conservative uh for a long time in the state and is now running for
00:30:40.800this open seat so there's a really good opportunity we have there's race in san antonio that's very
00:30:44.920competitive i could kind of go through a list i i hesitate to like bore us by traveling the entire
00:30:49.740state but there's really some good opportunities for some strong pickups of strong godly christian
00:30:55.880conservative men who seem to have the right mindset to say i want to actually uh do battle
00:31:02.740and fight regardless of what the leadership elite will tell me great so so you know like you said
00:31:09.460you don't want to get too in the muck and the mire and all the details but what's a good resource
00:31:13.280that people can can go to i know they can watch your show but is there somewhere where just
00:31:17.220just written out like this is who we're endorsing for yeah such and such position like what do you
00:31:23.240recommend is something to follow that people can. So I would recommend, uh, basically pulling
00:31:29.740together several different resources. So I would definitely look at Texas scorecard that will keep
00:31:33.840you kind of overall engaged in the entire state. And that's who you're connected. And that's my
00:31:37.860podcast is under that entity, but they do a lot of reporting, some other shows that talk about
00:31:42.100other issues. Um, Texans for fiscal responsibility is a watchdog group that focuses on property taxes
00:31:48.920and fiscal issues. So it's one of those where you can go there and find out who the good and
00:31:53.080the bad ones are on these issues. They have what they call the fiscal index. So you can go there
00:31:57.220and look at every state rep in Texas and how they rank when it comes to fiscal responsibility.
00:32:02.120I'm just thinking of Don Huffines right now. We just recently went up to Broken Bow, my family,
00:32:06.700another family in the church that we're close friends with. And we went up to Broken Bow,
00:32:10.480stayed in the cabin, did a little vacation. And for miles, Don Huffines, I was like,
00:32:16.260zero property taxes, or an actual Republican, or build a wall. And I was like, yeah, man,
00:32:22.620that like that advertising works i was already i already knew about him yes i was like i love this
00:32:28.960guy yeah absolutely so real quick can we talk about property taxes yes because so me coming
00:32:34.600from california lots of people you know it's well some people came with us and praise god for that
00:32:39.060but lots of people disagreed and a big part of their argument is well you know california needs
00:32:43.480churches someone's got to stay and fight and i totally support that so biblically speaking i
00:32:47.660I would say there is absolutely a theological category for what we would call a missionary, right?
00:32:52.700So the idea of Christians willingly sacrificing their own personal comforts and pleasures for the good of someone else absolutely makes sense.
00:33:02.060Now, I do think there are, I would have some disclaimers.0.96
00:33:05.060I'd say, one, there's a difference in sending missionaries to China or Russia or North Korea, places where people are trapped.
00:33:34.680So the idea of having missionaries there, another good argument that I would have for Christians being in places like San Diego, which is where I was, is because I'm not a pacifist.
00:33:43.400which means i believe that it's not only permissible but commendable for christian men to
00:33:46.940serve in the military and if they're going to serve in the navy they're going to do some time
00:33:50.440in san diego and those christian guys in the navy deserve to have a church yeah you know and so
00:33:54.780there are reasons to stay um however at the same time i always encourage people who have chosen to
00:33:59.780stay make sure you're fighting more than you're funding and i think that takes some brutal honesty
00:34:04.180to actually okay let's look at my bank account um how much did i tithe and then how much did i pay
00:34:09.640state taxes and and what did gavin newsom just say about his promise of becoming a sanctuary state
00:34:15.500that not only state funds abortions there yeah but abortions from people in texas and idaho and
00:34:20.420everywhere else if you know gets over like yeah okay so how much of my funding by the the analogy
00:34:25.220that i would use illustration would be like if you had some covert you know um small you know
00:34:31.120special forces platoon behind enemy lines and let's say you know they're they're militant um
00:34:37.640they're strategic they're organized and about once a week they pick off you know whether it
00:34:43.000be sniping or capturing or something someone of the enemy one person so they're taking down
00:34:47.960one key person of the enemy on a weekly basis but the other six days of the week they actually
00:34:53.980have set up a general store they actually have all these different supplies where they're actually
00:34:58.300clothing and feeding offering medical supplies and treatment to the enemy and let's say the enemy
00:35:05.020these enemy lines let's say it's like siberia russia whereas if they weren't providing these
00:35:10.360resources if they just left the enemy would die out on its own so like for me you know the idea
00:35:15.060of well i love california what i would say is me too um and that's why i left um by leaving
00:35:20.660it's not that i i was stuck between two choices of love either loving california or leaving
00:35:25.880it was i'm going i'm choosing to love california by leaving yeah um i'm fighting by my you know
00:35:32.300fight by flight fighting by fleeing and uh and because i really believe that california the
00:35:37.420only thing that's propping up all of its failed godless policies is the most precious people on
00:35:43.200the planet these conservative christians that love the lord that have integrity in their business
00:35:47.040practices and are doing these and if we all just left california i think would be would have a
00:35:52.340major problem would have a major problem first of all just their tax revenue would have a major
00:35:55.860exactly now all that being said back to the point about property taxes some some would say okay yeah
00:36:01.320sure texas doesn't have a state tax and sure real estate's cheaper you know and all these kinds of
00:36:05.540things and maybe not for long as things are hopefully they level off but uh because it
00:36:10.560doesn't mean no good the fact that you know oh a couple hundred thousand dollars of of equity
00:36:14.520in your house it's not i'm not doing anything what all it does is it makes my friends not able
00:36:19.000to come here in my home so yeah i wanted to chill out but um but all that being said you know some
00:36:24.260of the california buddies you know that would poke you know poke counter arguments and stuff
00:36:28.960You know, they would say on the fiscal level, well, sure, there's no state tax, but your property taxes are property taxes.
00:36:36.720It really is pretty phenomenal to watch.
00:36:38.660It's been, we have this scheme in Texas that has allowed the government to get more and more of our citizens' money through appraisal increases.
00:36:46.760And everyone wants to put Band-Aids on these problems.
00:36:50.060But the reality is that over the last 10 years, more and more Texans get taxed out of their home.
00:36:54.580And just, I really mean that tax out of their home.
00:36:57.140Not a lot of people can afford to pay.
00:36:58.820a thousand dollars a month in property taxes which is what a lot of these upper middle class
00:37:04.380suburban areas are having and those are the same areas that we need churches that we need patriots
00:37:09.300who are there invested engaged in their community and culture and yet these people are saying look
00:37:13.560i can't even afford to live here um the property tax system and it feels like you're always renting
00:37:19.160so even if i pay off my mortgage do i really own anything no because if you stop they have a first
00:37:25.560Don Huffman's love to say they have a first lien on everything, right? You stop paying that property tax bill
00:37:30.000They can take your whole house not mine and they don't even come take oh you owe us
00:37:33.360$8,000 or not taking you know your car from we're taking your home, right?
00:37:38.040So like we will take the entire and be fairly California still has you know one one point two
00:37:42.240Yeah, I property taxes whereas right here in huddle where I'm at. Yes, we're like two point six five
00:37:47.120Yes, you can get as low as like in the Williamson County area
00:37:50.220My mother and father-in-law are at like one point nine. Yep
00:38:13.160And so your 1.25% was still comparable to the 2.65 on a $450,000 home here in Texas.
00:38:20.580But the problem is now, you know, that $400,000 home is $600,000, $650,000 in the Williamson County area, not even in Austin, not even in Travis County.
00:38:30.360And so I'm thinking like, okay, I'm going to pay off my 30-year mortgage and I'm going to try to aggressively do that if the Lord provides in that way that I can build wealth for, you know, a wise man leaves an inheritance to his children's children.
00:38:41.000I think it can never be anything less than the spiritual inheritance.
00:38:43.400But I would argue that if you can, you should seek for it to be more spiritual and financial material.
00:38:49.900And so I want to do all those things, but it's like, how am I going to pull that off
00:38:54.500But 15 years from now, my monthly payment is still the same as it is today
00:38:57.920because property taxes and my home gets revalued.
00:39:02.040And so Don Huffines, back then, no property taxes.
00:39:05.360I know he was saying scaling it back over 8 to 10 years, but how is that actually possible?
00:39:09.500So the thing to understand if we get kind of wonky within the numbers
00:39:13.300is that a big portion of your property tax bill you know are public schools.
00:39:17.520Okay. And which I don't, one of the arguments is that we need to quickly fund public schools as
00:39:24.720much from the state as humanly possible. And that would be the first portion of your property tax
00:39:28.780bill that needs to go away. It's also easier to do just from a pure, if we're going to get kind
00:39:33.720of wonky mathematical and policy perspective, because you can write a check to the school
00:39:38.220district that buys down the amount of property tax that they take. Okay. So you can essentially
00:39:42.980say if the current distribution, just to use easy numbers, is 50% of schools are funded from the
00:39:49.540state giving money to public schools, and then 50% are funded from local property tax collections
00:39:54.580that are being done, then the more money comes in to public schools, then the lower your property
00:40:00.420tax bill goes eventually to zero. Now, the way that ends up working, just to show people kind
00:40:05.280of mathematically, the way it could work is that if when Governor Abbott had taken over
00:40:09.620the governorship back in 2014 and just said hey our state's growing we're going to keep the budget
00:40:17.320where it's at okay just grow it like two or three percent so grow but like we're not going to grow
00:40:22.080expand into any more new programs we're not going to start giving more money to all these universities
00:40:26.460that are indoctrinating our kids we're not going to give tax breaks to all these companies coming
00:40:31.340in so that they don't pay property taxes that's the thing is governor abbott and the state they
00:40:35.420right checks to these corporations coming in so they say come here you won't pay property taxes
00:40:40.160you know about samsung is coming so taylor i i i well i was there this morning actually visiting
00:40:45.500a pastor friend um christ fellowship church great church and taylor if anybody lives in that area
00:40:50.260so i was visiting pastor jeff ripple because we're partnering with him to do a conference in march
00:40:55.320it's called the resisting uh tyranny and wokeness conference okay a guy named john harris from
00:40:59.960conversations that matter yeah i know he's been on the podcast great yeah so so myself and 80 and
00:41:05.180john we're teaming up and we're and uh this church in taylor christ fellowship church is hosting it
00:41:09.480and so i was there scoping it out and getting prepared because our registrations have been
00:41:14.340more than we expected and so can we fit everybody but anyways i can get there you know it's just a
00:41:18.580hop and a skip i can get there in about 11 12 minutes from my house and samsung is coming into
00:41:23.600taylor it's going to be right off the 79 which is part of the reason why my house is exploding in
00:41:27.820value right now you know and and so it's going to be right off the 79 and and that's i'm sympathetic
00:41:33.500to taylor and to these because they're like okay yeah like we'll we'll give you for the first 10
00:41:38.840years you're gonna um we're gonna wave off i think it was like the deal they made was 90
00:41:42.740percent yes of samsung's property taxes they don't have to pay if they come to taylor and and that
00:41:49.260will benefit taylor yeah but then at the same time it's like that's being made up by the people on
00:41:54.120taylor yeah yeah exactly i mean williamson county is making that up with all the rest of the citizens
00:41:59.160exactly so they're not cutting their pain that's right they're not cutting their budget they're
00:42:03.120not saying, hey, normally we would have made this much money from Samsung. We're going to cut our
00:42:07.600budget that much so that we don't increase the burden. No, government's still growing at the
00:42:12.160normal rate. And all it does is then shift more of it onto the normal people that are here that
00:42:16.580have already moved here that are already contributing to the economy. There's a real
00:42:19.800kind of question to ask too about, okay, so if I'm a business owner in Taylor, I'm paying my
00:42:25.520property tax bill fully. Maybe I have some technology employees that are being poached by
00:42:31.040Samsung. So now you're bringing in Samsung. They're going to pay my employees more. By the way,
00:42:36.920one of the reasons they can is because they're not paying property taxes, which I am. So I've
00:42:40.940been here for 20 years. I was here when Taylor was nothing. I've been contributing to this
00:42:44.480community. I've been paying back all of these different things. It's crazy. If Governor Abbott
00:42:48.800in 2014 had said, hey, we're going to take the extra growth because you have to understand our
00:42:53.280economy as it's booming, gives us more and more and more tax revenue. And as inflation's going up,
00:42:58.160we're bringing in massive record-breaking tax receipts. So all we have to do is say,
00:43:04.380we're going to stop growing the existing government that exists. And as all this extra
00:43:09.100money comes in, we're going to use that to buy people's property taxes down through public
00:43:13.260education funding. I hope that's kind of simple enough to make sense to people.
00:43:17.800Because you take this extra money, you give it to the public school system, but you don't give it
00:43:21.240as a pay raise. You give it as this is money you're getting so that these people's property
00:43:27.200taxes go down the same amount dollar for dollar and it's not additional no it's a substitute yes
00:43:32.960and if you do that over a six to eight year time period you very quickly get rid of that portion
00:43:38.240of your property tax bill and the key is getting rid of it where it can't come back so one of the
00:43:42.400things don's promoted is putting it on the ballot where people in texas actually vote on it so that
00:43:47.200it's in the constitution there is no school property tax as an example right and he hasn't
00:43:51.920been that it could be a bunch of different ways you put it on the constitutional amendment and
00:43:55.680And then you have the school, the cities, the counties, the MUDs, the PUDs, whatever other little utility districts you have.
00:44:03.440And those basically have to get figured out in similar fashions.
00:44:07.240You have to figure out what are you going to do with these local governments?
00:44:09.500How are they allowed to get taxes potentially to replace some of the lost revenue they will have?
00:44:15.100It's not hard for these kind of cities.
00:44:17.640These kind of cities can make it up a lot easier because you have a lot of people moving in and a lot of commerce for like rural Texas, to be honest.
00:44:24.440if you're out there in like a very small city in east or west texas they don't have a lot of sales
00:44:29.800tax revenue the truth is they're going to depend more so on it so you i think there's some creative
00:44:34.360conversations that we have to have of what that looks like but the point is that this goes back
00:44:39.400to wealth creation you talked about the amount of wealth that would get created tomorrow if everyone
00:44:44.600did not have just a school property tax portion of their bill it would just radically change their
00:44:49.080their entire life. The school property tax portion of property taxes, that's close to 50%.
00:44:54.460Yes, absolutely. It's the biggest chunk. It's the chunk. And Don has said that he really thinks
00:44:58.720you should just get rid of all of it over time, which I completely agree with. I mean, if you had
00:45:03.060no property taxes, first of all, then you'd own your home, period. You are renting your home from
00:45:08.220the government and you can say the rent's cheaper. You're renting the land. Yeah. And I can't take my
00:45:12.440house. Yeah. Yeah. And they're taking it from you if you don't pay that bill. Right. So, okay. So
00:45:16.900what would you say about this so you don't know my personal story yeah i you know i'm the oldest
00:45:20.820i was adopted and i'm the oldest of four and so my my sister she's the baby in the family
00:45:26.540what well no no i'm the only adopted one so it's like my parents can conceive whatever was broke
00:45:31.800got fixed god god seems to do that story pretty often you hear like a couple can't conceive they
00:45:37.360adopt and then god opens the woman's womb and uh so i have two younger brothers and then i have the
00:45:42.780baby sister. The baby sister is here with me and my parents are here with me, part of Covenant
00:45:47.520Bible Church. And her husband, my brother-in-law, is my fellow elder at the church. Now my two
00:45:52.180brothers in between myself and my sister, one of them is actually transgender and the other is a
00:45:57.900Marxist. Now both I think would profess Christ. The Marxist, I lean towards him being a Christian
00:46:06.160and confused, maybe a little bit too smart for his own good. The transgender one I would say is1.00
00:46:12.000not a Christian. He's not keeping in step with the gospel. I'm also confused, but to the point1.00
00:46:18.260where I would say, no, that's not under the banner. You just, no. And so my prayer for him
00:46:24.440is a prayer for salvation. But my Marxist brother, we have a great relationship, and he watches the
00:46:30.500show from time to time, and we respectfully can dialogue. It's nice because he's in this camp0.99
00:46:37.560surrounded by a ton of leftists and stuff but he actually has a spine he's actually masculine and
00:46:42.360uh and not a snowflake and you know not triggered yeah exactly so yeah exactly so we can argue we
00:46:48.620can debate and he doesn't cry or get his feelings hurt i'm probably more sensitive than he is so
00:46:52.540he's he's a great guy um but one of the things he would say with property taxes is he would say joel
00:46:57.040if we did away with property taxes we would return to feudal lord system uh within one generation
00:47:02.080and so basically what he's saying is that if there were no property taxes there's no way so
00:47:07.360even biblically you know you have every 50 years the year of jubilee yeah like there is some kind
00:47:11.940of reset there's some kind of where the land and and possessions turn back over to their original
00:47:17.960owner the original tribe that they you know the inheritance was in and you might say well then
00:47:22.300you know that's not fair but it's like okay but that person who's losing it to this person
00:47:26.440they're gaining it too because every everybody in israel was a descendant of one of these tribes0.52
00:47:32.200the only people who want to benefit in that is you know the foreigner the sojourner but even the
00:47:36.460foreigner or the sojourner which biblically that that that word in the hebrew both foreigner and
00:47:42.160sojourner which is translated you know stranger is still a legal citizen and not an illegal citizen
00:47:47.180but there would be even benefits for them in the year jubilee and so there's this my point is there's
00:47:51.840a reset things go back so my my brother his point is with the feudal lord system idea is saying
00:47:56.860yeah um if there's not some kind of form of property tax or a year of jubilee or something
00:48:01.560like that you just have you ever watched i think it was either tommy boy or black sheep but it's
00:48:07.460david spade and uh and chris father they're playing checkers together and david spade beats
00:48:12.480him like three four five times in a row and chris farley you know in his iconic way is uh getting
00:48:18.040angry and uh david spade says oh man i can't believe i beat you this many times i've never
00:48:22.260won this many times in checkers and he says well you know it's kind of easy to win when you never
00:48:26.360move your back row and and that's kind of my brother's point is like without property taxes
00:48:32.560no one will ever move their back row aka they won't sell they'll never sell and the land gets
00:48:38.500eventually bought up there is no land and so then a few families ultimately own everything and no one
00:48:44.220moving to Texas. Do you have any thoughts? There's going to be ramifications of no property
00:48:51.540taxes. There's not a single state in the nation that doesn't have property tax of some form or
00:48:56.540fraction. First and foremost, Tennessee has fractional property taxes compared to Texas.
00:49:02.240It's a good example of a state that is being run conservatively. They don't have a state income
00:49:07.760tax, by the way. There is no income tax. I'm telling you, we were talking to some of our
00:49:11.600friends who lived in the Texas Hill Country who moved to the Nashville area and they were
00:49:15.820talking about, you know, buying this $600,000 house. And all of a sudden they're looking
00:49:20.300at their property tax bill and they're going, oh my gosh, this is like one fifth of what
00:49:24.320we pay in Texas. Now, so I think we can at least realize that you can look at the other
00:49:29.200states with significantly smaller property taxes than Texas and know this wouldn't be
00:49:34.400a perfect argument against it, but you would at least know, hey, houses are still moving
00:49:39.140in Tennessee, just to be clear. You know, so you can look at that scale. I have not seen a study
00:49:43.800and I would love to look at one that says that the lower the property tax, the less likely somebody
00:49:47.520is to sell. I think that it fundamentally gives somebody the dignity of homeownership where they
00:49:52.840can't lose it. And I think that's really important. Here's the truth. The people who are being forced
00:49:58.980to sell are people whose wealth is tied up in their home. So this is not the people who have
01:02:18.360I think it's been challenging to kind of the ruling class elite to deal with that kind of
01:02:24.100shift within the party because this has not been their incentive. One of the organizations that
01:02:28.400I'm a big fan of is the American Principles Project. And they are based in DC, but they've
01:02:33.860recently opened up a Texas office. They deal with a lot of the transgender issues. They deal with
01:02:38.360pornography regulation and trying to limit children's access to pornography and other
01:02:42.180things like that that no other family organizations are pushing. But one of the things that they do
01:02:48.200is they call their membership which is fruit big family so they talk about big pharma and big
01:02:54.380business and the big gun lobby and the big you know green lobby and all this different stuff and
01:02:59.300they'll go well we want to be the big family so they want to come in and say we're for big family
01:03:03.800and so we represent mafia yes yes no but it's like that's awesome we're gonna look at this
01:03:08.840policy is nope that hurts families nope that's hurts families and so i think there was i loved
01:03:13.560the way they shaped it because i said look this is what we need we need somebody stamping them
01:03:17.320saying, nope, not good for a few months. Hey, you're expanding. They were expanding. I'm going
01:03:22.420to get off on a different Texas policy. But just to give people examples of real life areas that
01:03:26.840could have benefited, Governor Abbott wanted to put billions of dollars into expanding rural
01:03:31.580broadband. So the government's going to pay to dig all these lines and get faster internet to all
01:03:35.840these rural communities. And so Representative Jeff Kaysen at the time from North Texas put on
01:03:40.500an amendment on this legislation that said that the internet provided through this expansion had
01:03:46.400to by default have porn filtered okay so it means when you order the internet and it comes to your
01:03:51.940house you can't get on pornographic websites now you can call and ask them hey can you lift the
01:03:58.020filter this is done in great britain and 75 percent of the homes keep the filter on and so
01:04:04.800the reality is that then any phones on the network cannot access this pornographic content i don't
01:04:10.660call it adult content because adults shouldn't be consuming it either that's right but the reality
01:04:13.840is that yes we had we had this there uh it was in the bill it went and the senate stripped it out
01:04:20.280the governor didn't say anything about it it was his personal it was one of his top three bills
01:04:24.320and everyone was pushing him to say hey come out and say you support this porn filter on it he
01:04:28.740stayed silent it got stripped out he had a signing ceremony where he talked about how good the bill
01:04:33.660was and the reality was one i don't even think the bill's that good because i think it's going
01:04:37.620to be a waste of money but there was this fundamental opportunity to say hey here's a
01:04:41.760policy that we can make pro-family that's right you know what men don't want to ask their wives
01:04:46.720hey can we call at&t and lift the porn filter you know what they do what the kids don't want
01:04:50.500to ask their parents like hey why can't i get on this website they're not right yeah and so anyway
01:04:55.680israel does it even uh hardcore they they actually uh if you call and and ask for the filter to be
01:05:04.460removed they put you on a public registry so like if you're in your neighborhood you can go on just
01:05:10.100like sex offenders and see like which people on your block and you go hey tom don't go to that
01:05:14.500house like i don't know what they're doing that there's five houses on this block and one of them0.76
01:05:18.180does not have a filter so like we're going to stay out of that home israel does that yeah wow0.66
01:05:23.060isn't it pretty phenomenal yeah so um there's just there's these real life policies i think0.61
01:05:28.680texas has an opportunity on the pornography issue particularly to really lead the nation and say
01:05:33.180we're going to be the first state that requires the internet provided have that porn filter on
01:05:38.000anyone when you have families that move in from california they're not even going to know they're
01:05:42.240going to call at&t or spectrum and say i need internet what's your price 50 what's your price
01:05:46.26040 get the internet and they're going to realize oh wow you can't visit any of these websites yeah
01:05:51.360and then if you call spectrum and wait online and click all the buttons maybe you can get it lifted
01:05:55.720um it decreases consumption massive oh i bet i mean just imagine imagine if in texas specifically
01:06:03.400we decrease pornography consumption right you know 70 percent overnight yeah huge impacts on
01:06:08.940society yeah you know the lessons that would happen on family marriages children he's mad
01:06:13.680economically yeah like i mean it just drains a man's drive yeah his his ambition in every aspect
01:06:20.440of life it just yeah i completely agree so let's all that's super helpful and i like that you got
01:06:25.700really practical you were able to cover some names some different offices things things that are
01:06:29.900pertinent and relevant and specific, but then also some specific policies. These are the kind
01:06:34.260of things that, you know, I often have guests on the show and we talk in terms of theological
01:06:38.520overarching principles, which is helpful, but to have somebody who's, who this is what you do,
01:06:43.960you know, and that you're, you're educated and knowledgeable, uh, because I'm, I'm just,
01:06:48.660I'm still learning these things. And so it's super helpful. Um, but I'd like to land the plane. So
01:06:53.500this is my thought. I know we can go for a while. Well, yeah, yeah. But, but I'd like to land it
01:06:56.940here specifically i'm thinking about all right so i came from california i would like other
01:07:01.560christians to leave california um i do think there's a case to stay like i said like i said
01:07:05.940earlier there are other exceptions that i would add in there if we had more time other exception
01:07:09.900clauses for for leaving uh reasons to stay um but by and large in general i really do think that a
01:07:15.860lot of christians in california are doing more funding if they were really brutally honest
01:07:20.220they're funding more than they're fighting and california i'm picking on california because
01:07:23.880that's where i came from but yeah fill in the blank new york this blue state that blue state
01:07:27.020um but based off of our conversation we said all right here's the good the bad and the ugly
01:07:32.120of texas there are some good things but there's some bad and ugly so so if i'm a california
01:07:38.040christian a california conservative right now and i've made the decision to leave
01:07:42.000and and i've been listening to the podcast this episode up until this point i might be thinking
01:07:47.400well maybe i should go to florida yeah south dakota florida montana yeah yeah idaho um
01:07:53.900you know texas sounds like it's not really that conservative and i would say yeah well in some
01:07:59.960sense it's not that conservative but i i think in terms of like like the the battle the war and
01:08:04.660then there's isolated but but very strategic and pivotal battles the battle of bunkers hill and
01:08:09.740and so i think like the reason why i think we should stop fighting with it with an active
01:08:14.180presence in california is a couple reasons one because i i think um that's not a raging battle
01:08:20.100people say oh the battle's raging california no the battle was raging about 20 years ago in
01:08:24.740california you're now fighting in a graveyard the battle's over you lost you lost um and and
01:08:31.480here's the thing we're not running from a fight right um we're um whenever there was one famous
01:08:36.600general who said maybe it was cromwell or something but uh whenever that he would retreat
01:08:40.280we're not retreating we're just advancing to the rear and so so the way i see is we're not running
01:08:44.900from a fight um you're running to a fight and so i would argue for texas not because it's the most
01:08:50.160conservative state in the union but because it is more significant yes like big states the way we
01:08:55.500started the conversation all the way back to the beginning of the episode it is more significant
01:08:58.880than south dakota and yes we can have a conservative bastion you know and we're in the proverbial
01:09:03.520timbuk too but we don't want to just be safe we want to be we want to be significant we want to
01:09:08.360went in the larger war so i would say texas because of its size um and its influence it's
01:09:13.700significant and i would say that um texas i think of revelation i think it's either two three or
01:09:19.480three two that says strengthen that which still remains but is about to die i think there are
01:09:24.620states in the union that have died virtually nothing remains and then there are places where
01:09:29.200where almost everything remains it you know you're south dakota but then there are places where it's
01:09:35.400like there's life but there's also there's stage four cancer but there's still hope and and i'm and
01:09:42.080so i just feel like we need this and as many reinforcements here as possible i think texas is
01:09:47.780bunkers hill i think this is the pivotal place if texas falls i think we're we're in a world of hurt
01:09:55.580so could you make a case for the the provisions of texas the safety the reason why it is a good
01:10:00.620place to raise your family, but also the reason why we can't let go of Texas. So I think your safe
01:10:07.740versus significance is a great example of just kind of your different options, right? You could
01:10:12.880look and say, hey, if I go to Montana, you know, I'm not, I think I can do whatever I want. It's
01:10:17.500like, yeah, that's because no one even knows you're there for the record. I mean, there's so
01:10:20.360few people that you're like, I don't even know if they know somebody moves into the area. They don't
01:10:24.800run into each other. So there is a safe versus significance aspect. I also think that to the
01:10:29.960extent that we need to talk about the cancers in our state. It's important. And some people,
01:10:36.420I have friends of mine who love to death and listen to my show and other stuff on a regular
01:10:41.340basis and they go, man, you're sometimes pretty down. And I said, well, look, I'm actually very
01:10:45.540hopeful about the future of Texas, but I believe that in order to have a bright future, you have
01:10:50.800to talk about the problems. Because the reason California got where it got was because it was
01:10:56.780in a good position and nobody talked about the cancers that were underneath and so therefore
01:11:01.140all of a sudden people wake up decades from now and they go oh my gosh we'll try to save it and
01:11:05.660at that point is good you kind of alluded to is like it's too far gone texas is not too far gone
01:11:11.800and and the problems we have are easily solved and the politicians that are there either politicians
01:11:17.480are with us some or a lot of the elected officials are just scared and the key is that the more light
01:11:23.840that's shown on these issues, the more they start to capitulate. And so I think we have a real
01:11:27.880opportunity where the more men and women of faith and families of faith are stepping up and engaging
01:11:34.680in the arena, the more the political elite class is having to reorient their ideas and policies and
01:11:43.900priorities in order to accommodate that issue they have. They pick the path of least resistance.
01:11:50.060And so the more people come in and go, I'm going to demand this as an ideal, the more they go, well, actually, the less resistant issue is to go in this direction.
01:11:59.120And so, one, I do think there's a lot of hope for where Texas is going.
01:12:02.920I don't think we're too far gone by any means.
01:12:05.500In fact, we are not anymore close to purple.
01:12:08.140You're going to see that this next November, that Texas is going to be double digits red across the board.
01:12:12.720We're going to expand our representation in the House and the Senate and all these other areas.
01:12:16.520the question though remains what will we do with that and the only reason that that gets wielded
01:12:22.480in a way that benefits this society and these people is if more and more people are engaged
01:12:28.880which is why i'm i love coming on and talking about these issues because it's like if people
01:12:32.820don't then engage then what's going to happen is we're just going to take a little more power and
01:12:36.340not do anything with it and eventually yes we will slowly fade into that area safe versus
01:12:40.360significance an absolutely phenomenal um phenomenal thing and yes there are some core
01:12:45.120constitutional protections that we now have after
01:12:47.380Greg Abbott shut down our churches during
01:12:49.420the shutdown, which is phenomenal to watch a Republican
01:13:09.500again. And the cool thing is that means that
01:13:11.520Greg Abbott can never close a church again.
01:13:13.040It also means any other bad politician that shows up, can't close a church again.
01:13:17.500Think of the power that that gives the church and the idea that even if a, even if her governor
01:13:24.160got worse, that governor could never, ever, ever close a church service.
01:13:28.680They would need two thirds majority in both chambers to pass something and the people
01:13:32.820of Texas to vote to take that out of the constitution.
01:13:35.760And that's where we have, I think, super strong protections that give people still kind of
01:13:41.080a core base to come here and engage and know that they are protected. And I've heard that Texas
01:13:46.140has some of the best pro homeschooling policies. Absolutely. Yeah. And that's another reason why
01:13:52.640a lot of families conservative. 100%. I mean, the Texas Homeschool Coalition, my dad serves on the
01:13:57.300board of the Texas Homeschool Coalition. I've been, of course, we've been members for a very
01:14:00.380long time. And Tim Lambert's a phenomenal man. Literally, he was homeschooling when it was
01:14:05.100illegal to homeschool. Okay. This guy has been a pioneer. And if people should be connected to
01:14:10.560this organization because they have fought tirelessly and will continue to fight not only
01:14:14.740for homeschool rights, but parental rights in general. They've even fought for policy specific
01:14:19.900to parental rights. In fact, they put out some statements about Don Huffines and Greg Abbott.
01:14:23.840And the reason they supported Huffines over Abbott was because they've been pushing for
01:14:27.080more parental rights protections in Texas for a long time that Abbott hasn't supported.
01:14:31.260And we're very hopeful because the Republican Party and even Governor Abbott caved and put
01:14:36.600out this plan for parental rights protections legislation that he's been opposing his entire
01:14:41.360time because he sees this goes back to that reality that he sees the ground shifting and
01:14:45.800he sees these people demanding these rights and protections i thank you for having me i just want
01:14:50.720to remind everybody and i know you do this on the show every time but um our we are so blessed
01:14:58.960that we have been given as a free gift from god eternal life through jesus christ yeah and that
01:15:06.180gives us far more courage than compared to anybody else. You know, we can have these conversations
01:15:12.560about the world we live in and the battles that we engage in and the spiritual realities of the
01:15:17.660world around us. And how do we apply that in our life and how we live it out every single day?
01:15:22.600And the confidence that we are given through the accomplished work of Christ is what then gives us
01:15:29.200the confidence to then go out and boldly serve. And I think that that really gives us an ability
01:15:36.540to fight fearlessly in a political arena where people are not used to that. They don't know how
01:15:45.060to deal with people. They're dominated by the fear of man. And the only thing that delivers
01:15:48.900you from the fear of man is the fear of God. You actually attribute to God, you accredit to God
01:15:56.140more weight right that old testament word of course is in the new testament as well but glory
01:16:02.280it signifies weightiness and and this view that man is not glorious man is made from the dust and
01:16:09.500to dust he will return but god is eternally glorious he carries weight therefore his opinions
01:16:15.200his thoughts what he says his word about me that's that's what carries weight that's what i should
01:16:22.720fear um this reverence of i care about what god thinks of me not what man thinks of me and you're
01:16:28.600absolutely right so i think it's the fear of man and then we saw over the last two years with covid
01:16:32.840the fear of death um and so i think you know the fear of the lord uh it delivers us from the fear
01:16:38.040of man but then exactly what you said christ um in our salvation eternal life frees us from the
01:16:43.560fear of death that hebrews i think it's hebrews chapter 2 verses 12 i think through 14 it says
01:16:48.640that Jesus likewise he partook of the same flesh as the children of man so that he by his death
01:16:56.000might deliver us from the one who has authority over death namely the devil that he might deliver
01:17:03.860us from lifelong slavery to the fear of death and so ultimately what it's saying is that human
01:17:09.240beings have this constant whether it's conscious or not or subconscious we have this constant
01:17:14.780perpetual dread of death, this sense, this groaning sense of our own mortality. We know.
01:17:21.620We know that we're fragile. We know that this life is not indefinite. And Jesus, by his death,
01:17:30.260he freed us from slavery to the fear of death. And I think that's what we saw over the last two
01:17:35.520years is with the threat of doom and destruction, the imperial college model, and 2.2 million deaths
01:17:41.440If we don't, you know, completely surrender all of our rights, you know, and all these things, it just revealed that so many people are afraid of death.
01:17:50.980And so I think, you know, with politicians, you've got the fear of man and with the public, you've got the fear of death.
01:17:56.800And but the gospel saves us from both and we can freeze us to be courageous.
01:18:03.640So thanks so much for coming on the show.