The NXR Podcast - THEOLOGY APPLIED - Who Is “The Man Of Lawlessness”？｜ with Dr. Gary DeMar

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00:00:17.980 Hi, welcome to another episode of Theology Applied.

00:00:20.440 I am your host, Pastor Joel Webbin with Right Response Ministries.

00:00:24.180 Today, I am joined again by Gary DeMar from American Vision,

00:00:28.180 and we focus our attention this time on the man of lawlessness. This is a phrase talking about a

00:00:36.320 certain individual or perhaps an entity that's described in 2 Thessalonians chapter 2, the man

00:00:44.920 of lawlessness. This is used by a lot of dispensational pre-millennials to point towards

00:00:51.240 some future individual during some time of tribulation and these kinds of things,

00:00:57.500 but Gary DeMar has a different opinion on the matter.

00:01:01.220 Let's go ahead and tune in and find out.

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00:01:54.440 Do you want to talk about the man of lawlessness?

00:01:58.280 Do you have a little bit of time or you want to maybe do it another day?

00:02:00.180 Yeah, we'll do the man of lawlessness.

00:02:01.860 All right, so let's go ahead and look at, this is going to be what?

00:02:04.880 First, 2 Timothy?

00:02:06.320 2 Thessalonians 2.

00:02:09.480 Okay.

00:02:14.320 I'm having to type.

00:02:15.240 2 Thessalonians 2.

00:02:17.700 Go ahead.

00:02:18.220 And it says here, now we request you, brethren, with regard to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

00:02:24.000 Now, I believe this coming is the same coming that Jesus talks about in Matthew chapter 24, coming as lightning.

00:02:31.460 Right, on the clouds.

00:02:33.060 Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

00:02:34.600 Then he talks about coming on the clouds of heaven, et cetera.

00:02:39.760 This isn't the second coming.

00:02:41.040 It isn't a rapture.

00:02:42.840 And I'll try to explain this in a little bit.

00:02:46.280 In regard to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our synagoguing together with him or to him.

00:02:53.400 Again, what is this? I think it goes back to Matthew chapter 24, verse 31. And there's an

00:03:01.960 interesting passage in John, if I can remember where this is. John 11. John 11. This is again,

00:03:13.700 one of these things. This is what Jim Jordan calls the weird. You know, something just kind

00:03:19.260 of thrown in there, and you just don't really know what is going on here. So John chapter 11,

00:03:27.080 verse 47, it says, therefore the chief priests and the Pharisees convened a council and were saying,

00:03:33.680 what are we doing? For this man is performing many signs. If we let him go on like this,

00:03:39.500 all men will believe in him, and the Romans will come and take away both our place and our nation.

00:03:44.760 But a certain one of them, Caiaphas, who was high priest that year, said to them, you know nothing at all, nor do you take into account that it is expedient for you that one man should die for the people and that the whole nation should not perish. 0.78

00:04:02.240 Now, Caiaphas was probably thinking here, we get rid of this guy and the nation will be saved.

00:04:09.940 Right.

00:04:10.040 Right. But then it goes, now this he did not say on his own initiative. So this must have been

00:04:17.440 something that the Holy Spirit put into him as a prophetic announcement that he had no idea what

00:04:23.760 in the world he was talking about. But being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus was

00:04:28.600 going to die for the nation. Again, not what he thought. And not for the nation only, but that he

00:04:36.040 might also gather together, that he might synagogue together into one, the children of God, who are

00:04:43.820 scattered abroad. And what is described here is, is that the gospel went out through the entire

00:04:51.440 Roman Empire, and God was synagoguing, gathering people together, the Jews from around the Roman

00:04:58.100 world. Gospel goes into all the world. This is what Matthew, Jesus says in Matthew chapter 24,

00:05:03.600 verse 14, goes through the whole oikumene, to every creature under heaven, as Paul writes in

00:05:10.540 Colossians 1.23, Paul says to all the nations in 1 Timothy chapter 3 and Romans chapter 16,

00:05:21.960 this gathering together, and at the same time as this gathering together of the Jews takes place,

00:05:28.100 it's the gathering together of the Gentiles taking place, and also, I think, related to all

00:05:33.220 these Old Testament saints, this whole gathering, this synagoguing together of one new people in

00:05:39.880 Christ. And so this is what is being dealt with here. This isn't talking about the rapture of

00:05:45.620 the church. It isn't even talking about the second coming. It's in verse two, that you may not be

00:05:50.920 quickly shaken from your composure or be disturbed either by a spirit or a message or a letter as if

00:05:58.400 from us to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. Now, if this refers either to the rapture,

00:06:07.860 which it doesn't, or the second coming, which it doesn't, but a lot of people who take this passage

00:06:14.120 believe that it does, then why in the world would they have thought that they, how would they have

00:06:19.840 thought that they had gotten a letter from Paul that this had taken place already? How could he

00:06:25.060 have written the letter if he was in the rapture or if this was the second coming. It makes no

00:06:29.420 sense. So this has got to be talking about something that was taking place in their day

00:06:34.240 and that the Lord has come. And it was also something taking place in their day and it was

00:06:40.100 local. Yeah, it was within the empire. And so this is my speculation. They knew that Jerusalem

00:06:51.400 was going to be destroyed. They knew there was this judgment coming. They knew it was going to

00:06:55.280 take place before their generation passed away. They knew that there were fellow Christians

00:06:59.860 who were living in Jerusalem. That's why, you know, you get, Jesus says in Matthew chapter 23,

00:07:05.740 when you see these things happen, you see the abomination of desolation sitting in the place

00:07:10.480 where it ought not to be, head for the hills. You have Luke, and Luke 21 says, when you see

00:07:16.000 Jerusalem surrounded by armies. And so maybe they thought at this particular period of time that

00:07:22.260 this had already happened, and they had not gotten any news about what happened. What happened? Did

00:07:28.860 they make it outside the city? Did the Romans come in and do all this? They didn't know. And so this 0.99

00:07:35.940 isn't talking about the second coming of Christ, because why in the world would they have, you know,

00:07:40.320 heard this from Paul or seemingly gotten a letter from Paul that this had taken place

00:07:46.480 because he would have been taken to heaven in a rapture or the second coming. Now, then it goes

00:07:52.300 on, it says, let no one in any way deceive you for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first 0.77

00:07:58.400 and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction. And so this wasn't going to take 0.71

00:08:05.200 place until this man of lawlessness appears, whoever he might be. And I don't know, there's

00:08:11.060 all kind of speculation of who the man of lawlessness was. Some believe he had something

00:08:16.440 to do, that he had something to do with the temple, that he was a high priest, it was a

00:08:24.760 corrupt high priest, and so forth and so on, who takes his seat in the temple.

00:08:27.400 That's kind of what it sounds like, yeah.

00:08:28.900 Yeah. Who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called God or object of worship so that he

00:08:38.000 takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God. By taking his seat in the

00:08:45.060 temple, he essentially says, I'm the guy right now. I'm the one in control of all this. Keep

00:08:51.600 this in mind that the temple was being rebuilt and it was a spectacular temple. And the temple

00:08:58.840 was being dedicated in AD 64. And I think this is exactly what Peter was talking about in 2 Peter

00:09:07.480 chapter 3, talking about scoffers. The scoffers were saying, hey, yeah, your Jesus talked about

00:09:12.280 that he was going to come within a generation and destroy the temple. And look at this glorious

00:09:18.620 temple that we have here. It's still standing, more glorious than ever and ever and ever and ever.

00:09:23.040 Your Jesus is a fraud. And so this man of lawlessness takes his seat in the temple, 0.95

00:09:28.060 essentially blaspheming that jesus was a fraud he wasn't the savior he wasn't who he said he was

00:09:35.800 he was a false prophet and so forth and so on now again i'm i'm speculating because paul isn't saying

00:09:41.960 this i'm just trying to put a couple of things together and particularly and i know i think

00:09:45.660 you're probably about to do this but if you're not so this man could be a high priest but it's

00:09:50.300 associated with the temple this is not a man number one this is not about the second coming

00:09:54.220 It's not something that's far off in the distance.

00:09:56.300 This is something that's, that's soon.

00:09:58.380 And it's not a man in the church.

00:10:00.340 It's not the man of lawlessness in the church.

00:10:02.300 It's the man of lawlessness in the temple.

00:10:04.580 And right.

00:10:05.800 Yeah.

00:10:06.640 Now keep in mind that through throughout the reformation era,

00:10:10.080 they took the temple here as being the church.

00:10:13.040 Right.

00:10:13.640 And I get that.

00:10:15.300 Yeah.

00:10:15.900 Go ahead.

00:10:16.340 The papacy was the antichrist and that's, and they, they futurized it.

00:10:20.080 We had a little bit of that talk last time I had you come on the show, 0.80

00:10:22.740 But like, and I love the reformers, but I completely understand what you're saying in the sense that this is talking about, it seems as though it's talking about Judaism. 0.67

00:10:32.200 Yeah, I believe so. And there is a, I have a, I had an appendix in an earlier edition of Last Day's Madness by a man who finished John Lightfoot's commentary on the New Testament.

00:10:48.640 And John Lightfoot wrote up until, I think, 1 Corinthians.

00:10:52.540 I think that's as far as he'd get.

00:10:54.200 And this German came along, German Bible expository came along and finished it.

00:11:00.420 And I could read enough Latin to figure out that what this guy was writing about 2 Thessalonians 2 was exactly what I was describing here.

00:11:09.020 So I had a fellow translate 2 Thessalonians 2, and that is exactly what this guy was saying,

00:11:15.660 that this apostasy that was taking place was taking place in the first century. John talks

00:11:20.260 about the apostasy that was taking place. There were those who were of us, who were among us,

00:11:25.280 who really were not of us, ended up leaving, departing. Paul talks about savage wolves who

00:11:31.440 come into the church. There was a small apostasy leading up to the destruction of Jerusalem in

00:11:37.140 AD 70. This is probably what John is talking about, the synagogue of Satan. These were people 0.70

00:11:43.400 who claim to be Jews and be believers, but they really weren't. They abandoned Christ. 0.91

00:11:49.560 And then you get to verse 5. Do you not remember that while I was still with you,

00:11:55.280 I was telling you these things. Now, verse 6. And you know what restrains him now,

00:12:04.560 so that in his time he may be revealed. So whoever this guy was, whoever the man of lawlessness was,

00:12:11.360 He was alive in Paul's day because he was being restrained in Paul's day.

00:12:16.180 Something's holding him back.

00:12:17.620 Something is holding him back.

00:12:19.580 And again, what is it that's holding him back?

00:12:22.820 We don't know.

00:12:23.440 Some people speculate it was the Roman Empire was holding him back because if you read through the book of Acts, somebody, what you ought to do, my pastor is going through the book of Acts.

00:12:34.760 He's just about finished with it.

00:12:35.940 And you read the book of Acts, and the Romans are not the bad guys.

00:12:39.840 I mean, Paul was punished, et cetera, in Acts chapter 16.

00:12:49.600 But for the most part, Christians were left alone by the Roman government.

00:12:54.780 The little thing that was going on under Gallio, he essentially protected Paul.

00:13:02.180 He said, look, I'm not getting involved in your disputes.

00:13:03.980 The Romans saved Paul when a message had come, I think from Paul's nephew, that there was a plot to kill the Apostle Paul. 0.92

00:13:13.160 So the bad guys in the book of Acts are the Jews. 0.65

00:13:17.460 If you look at 2 Corinthians chapter 11, Paul denounces his own countrymen. 0.98

00:13:27.500 They were the ones who almost stoned him to death, beat him with lashes, you know, 39 lashes and so forth. 0.50

00:13:35.060 So the Roman Empire kept the Jews from killing Christians. 0.60

00:13:40.880 I mean, Paul, well, he wasn't the Apostle Paul, but Saul accomplished a little bit of this in Acts chapter 7 when he killed Stephen.

00:13:52.420 And in Acts chapter 8, he was taking people out of their homes and persecuting them and so forth.

00:13:57.600 But the Roman government later stepped in and stopped all this going on.

00:14:00.540 Well, if it hadn't been the will of God, I mean, it seems like Pilate would have stopped them from killing Jesus.

00:14:06.440 Yeah, yeah.

00:14:07.500 Yeah, so look, so it says here, and you know what restrains him now so that in his time he may be

00:14:13.160 revealed. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work. Only he who now restrains will do so

00:14:21.800 until he is taken out of the way. So, we don't even have to know who the man of lawlessness is

00:14:26.980 or was. We do know that he was alive in Paul's day, and we know that the temple was still standing

00:14:32.640 in Paul's day. And so this isn't describing a rebuilt temple. This is talking about the temple

00:14:37.880 that was still in Jerusalem. And it's, I think, one of the reasons why this is somewhat cryptic

00:14:44.340 to us is because Paul in this letter talks about, he had talked about this already with them.

00:14:51.200 So they had already had some background knowledge of this before he wrote this. So he's kind of

00:14:57.280 updating them with some, maybe some more details, because maybe they, you know, he found out that

00:15:02.400 they, that a message had gotten to them that the day of the Lord, that is the destruction of

00:15:08.580 Jerusalem had already come. So anyway, that's what I believe the second, that the man of lawlessness

00:15:15.480 is, is he was alive in Paul's day. It's something to do with the temple. And he was, he was judged

00:15:22.140 and the temple was judged as well. And I have two chapters on this, much, much more detailed than

00:15:28.080 this. In my book, Last Day's Madness, I go through a pretty extensive detail on 2 Thessalonians 2

00:15:36.780 and the man of lawlessness. Great. Well, that's really helpful, Gary. Thank you so much. So let's

00:15:41.300 go ahead and land the plane now. I want to give you the final word with just, with the man of

00:15:45.680 lawlessness, with the rapture, with eschatology, with post-millennialism, preterism, the whole

00:15:50.520 nine yards. What do you think, Christians who are looking into these things, like what does the 1.00

00:15:57.140 Bible say about the end? And what does the Bible say about my responsibility and what I should be

00:16:02.800 doing now? What would be maybe a final, even pastoral word to people?

00:16:07.080 And this is why I got involved in all this. In fact, I was down in Mexico last month. I spent

00:16:14.140 five days down in Mexico speaking to pastors down there. And I explained to them,

00:16:19.720 the fellow who wanted me to come down there wanted me to deal with eschatology. And I said,

00:16:25.960 sure. And I said, he says, yes, I want you to deal with eschatology. And I explained to these men

00:16:32.400 that the reason I got involved in the whole eschatological thing was because of the worldview

00:16:38.680 material. The first book I wrote, first series of books I wrote was God and Government. It was

00:16:44.040 three-volume work on God and government. Not God and politics, but God and government. That God's

00:16:50.600 government is over everything. And he has established self-government, family government,

00:16:54.280 church government, civil government. We're to apply the Bible to every area of life. Look,

00:16:58.820 this world does not belong to the devil. And what about that passage in 2 Corinthians 4,

00:17:07.920 where it talks about Satan is the god of this world? No, Satan is the god of this age. And the

00:17:14.060 age is that those who have rejected Jesus as the promised Messiah, in essence, took on Satan as

00:17:22.820 their God. There's no neutrality. You got either one God or another God. And so, I told them that

00:17:30.280 this eschatology thing has to be settled because it's a hindrance to people because every time

00:17:36.860 they see something bad happen, they say, oh, it's got to be the end of the world. Oh, there's

00:17:40.700 nothing we can do about it. This has all been foretold in the Bible. And as a result of that,

00:17:46.100 I think that's one of the reasons why we're in the mess we're in today. So, eschatology,

00:17:50.600 everybody has an eschatology this is another thing i tell people everybody has an eschatology

00:17:56.080 every eight an atheist has an eschatology scientists um the everybody that islam has

00:18:04.200 an eschatology you can't get away from an eschatology it's all there right liberalism 0.81

00:18:09.100 has an eschatology that's why they're on the winning side in so many well that's funny real

00:18:13.140 quick my thought on that though the your radical i don't know about liberalism you know in general

00:18:17.620 But your radical leftists like AOC and people like that, they have an eschatology, the one they actually believe, and then they have a second eschatology, which is the one they say when the camera's on, right?

00:18:27.620 So the spoken eschatology is the world's going to end in 12 years because of the climate.

00:18:32.480 But what they actually believe is post-millennial.

00:18:35.580 The world's going to go on for a very long time, and we're going to win.

00:18:38.420 And see, the way they're going to win is they're going to control the future.

00:18:43.900 That's what they want.

00:18:44.940 And they say, give us more power.

00:18:46.380 kids. Give us more money. We can handle this world better than you can. Islam has an eschatology.

00:18:52.440 The Islamists believe they are on the winning side. Now, Christians say, well, we're on the 1.00

00:18:56.720 winning side too, and that's the rapture. Oh, okay. All right. That's kind of an interesting 0.98

00:19:02.060 way to say you're on the winning side. And in one respect, I guess that's the case. Yeah.

00:19:07.460 Right. Yeah. You're going to be raptured and you're going to be winning.

00:19:10.600 But is that what does the Bible teach that? I don't believe it does.

00:19:14.100 Right. The little phrase that I've been using lately, a few people told me, they said, I think that's helpful, is I think the difference between your dispensational pre-mill versus a post-millennial eschatology is to be fair and to not straw man either side.

00:19:30.720 To be fair, both sides believe that Jesus wins, that Jesus is victorious.

00:19:36.240 I think the difference is that the dispensational premillennial believes that Jesus wins despite a losing church,

00:19:44.700 and the postmillennial believes that Jesus wins through a militant and triumphant church.

00:19:52.300 It's how does Jesus win?

00:19:54.240 He wins in both scenarios, but how does he win?

00:19:56.500 Now, R.J. Rushdooney, in his book, The Mythology of Science, which I could grab a hold of it real quick and read it, but he essentially said this.

00:20:06.120 God is in control and sovereign and everything, but he put us down here, and it's hard.

00:20:15.040 It's difficult.

00:20:16.860 We're not God.

00:20:18.520 We're limited.

00:20:20.040 We're going to fail in our life.

00:20:22.960 We're going to die.

00:20:23.860 All of these types of things.

00:20:26.320 But if God really wanted to really get us out of here,

00:20:32.180 why doesn't he just save us at the time that we've come to Christ?

00:20:35.700 Why has he left us here for nearly 2,000 years?

00:20:41.200 To do what?

00:20:42.600 To wait for the rapture to take us out of here or wait for the second coming?

00:20:45.920 I don't believe so.

00:20:47.680 This is God's world.

00:20:49.700 Satan is not in control of this world.

00:20:52.100 In essence, we are proxies of what God wants us to do.

00:20:59.300 God wants us to apply his word to every area of life.

00:21:03.480 That was always the thing that was supposed to take place.

00:21:08.980 And why do we think that that has changed?

00:21:11.880 It's more difficult now, but I think that's just the nature of what it means to be a Christian 0.99

00:21:17.920 in a world that's limited and, in essence, sinful as well. 0.86

00:21:24.160 God left us here to apply his word in every area of life

00:21:27.440 and told us to get busy doing that.

00:21:29.140 Amen.

00:21:29.880 And I think having the right view of the future

00:21:32.280 has helped me tremendously, so there's not a hindrance in my way.

00:21:35.700 And also having a better view, and I'm not there yet,

00:21:38.800 I'm still working on it, but having a better view of the past,

00:21:41.380 and especially recent past with America, right?

00:21:44.520 You know, that you're told, you know,

00:21:46.100 So going through like some of the,

00:21:47.380 some of the history conferences and things that like Doug Wilson and guys

00:21:51.600 have put on a Steve,

00:21:52.740 Steven Wilkins,

00:21:54.400 I believe.

00:21:55.320 Yeah.

00:21:55.760 It has been so helpful to hear like,

00:21:57.140 okay,

00:21:57.340 maybe not all the founders were deist.

00:21:59.640 And maybe the reason why the history that you've read said they were all

00:22:02.760 deist is because the history books have been written by atheists and they

00:22:06.460 don't want you to think that they were Christian. 1.00

00:22:08.100 The winners, 0.60

00:22:08.560 the winners write the history.

00:22:09.680 Right.

00:22:10.260 Right.

00:22:10.660 So I have a brand new book coming out called the case for America's

00:22:15.140 Christian heritage.

00:22:16.100 Good. Praise God.

00:22:17.820 The final touches on it this week.

00:22:19.600 I'm just waiting for the cover to come back,

00:22:21.680 and then I've got some tinkering to do with a conclusion.

00:22:23.780 Where can people get that?

00:22:25.120 Because I want to send people.

00:22:26.060 Anything that I do is you can get it at AmericanVision.org.

00:22:30.300 AmericanVision.org.

00:22:31.500 I've got Last Day's Madness.

00:22:33.100 Is Jesus Coming Soon?

00:22:35.640 Wars and Rumors of Wars.

00:22:37.680 I have a book that I did called The Case for...

00:22:40.420 Let's see.

00:22:40.840 It's called...

00:22:42.140 It's in my mind.

00:22:45.040 America's Christian History, the Untold Story, which we're offering right now.

00:22:50.300 We've republished a book called The Christian Life and Character of the Civil Institutions of

00:22:54.780 the United States. But I wanted to do something that was kind of a jazzy, four-color book that

00:23:02.480 you could give to friends, lots of images in it and so forth and so forth. It's not a technical

00:23:08.700 book deals with original source documents. And it deals with a mixture of Enlightenment

00:23:16.640 philosophy and Christianity. And Enlightenment philosophy infected some aspects of Christianity,

00:23:23.800 but Christianity tempered the full effect of the Enlightenment. And remember,

00:23:30.800 the Enlightenment grew up out of a Christian worldview, made it all possible. But the 0.96

00:23:36.580 Enlightenment arose in a period of a Christian worldview before Darwin came along in 1859.

00:23:43.180 So we are now living with essentially the full court press of an Enlightenment philosophy

00:23:53.520 no longer grounded in some Christian ideals.

00:23:57.780 I mean, John Adams, George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, even Thomas Jefferson were living

00:24:03.400 within the context of a Christian worldview.

00:24:06.580 I mean, Thomas Jefferson took the Gospels and cut out all the miracles and so forth and so on on that.

00:24:13.520 But he couldn't extract himself from the morals of Jesus.

00:24:21.440 You can't account for morality in a Darwinian world.

00:24:24.680 Yeah, he was, from what I've heard, even today I was listening to some guys saying, like, he's a Unitarian, Jefferson.

00:24:30.820 But then people will say that, you know, George Washington is a deist.

00:24:33.880 but then you can find you know a deist you have to define in in what is a deist you know and like

00:24:38.720 in in those days it would have been somebody who denied the divinity of christ and denied

00:24:44.540 special revelation that they did not believe yeah deist was more of god yeah there was god

00:24:50.800 they believed in god uh and but they denied the trinity they denied the divinity of unitarians

00:24:56.220 unitarians denied the trinity trinity of course thomas jefferson did too john adams john adams

00:25:01.520 You go back and forth with John Adam.

00:25:03.500 When he was a very young man, he was very orthodox in his theology, and all the way up until one of his Thanksgiving proclamations, reads like it's a Trinitarian perspective.

00:25:15.480 But what you find here is that the founders, a deist was somebody who believed that God created the world, and he abandoned the world.

00:25:27.100 Right.

00:25:27.420 But if you read the Declaration of Independence that Thomas Jefferson had a lot to say about it, God is the one who is the judge of the world.

00:25:39.300 I mean, wait a minute.

00:25:40.240 How can you say that?

00:25:42.580 If you're a deist and you don't believe that God is involved in the world, how can you say that he is, in fact, the judge of the world?

00:25:48.600 We are endowed by our creator.

00:25:49.800 We certainly don't have our rights and so forth.

00:25:52.060 So you're right.

00:25:53.000 You have to define these terms very precisely.

00:25:56.080 And my only point was to say that my understanding of how it's defined, George Washington would not be a deist.

00:26:01.920 He, in some of his letters, even affirmed, I mean, he was sent, regularly people would send him sermons from pastors and like, oh, George Washington, would you read this sermon?

00:26:11.780 And he would respond and say, I read this sermon and I approve of its evangelical doctrine.

00:26:16.480 Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, you got Benjamin Franklin who stood up at the Constitutional Convention and gave this, you know, God governs in the affairs of men. And how could a sparrow fall to the ground without his knowledge and so forth and so on? I mean, that is not a deistic statement.

00:26:39.700 Right. These guys, they all they all live within the context of a Christian world.

00:26:44.840 This is why I believe what you're finding today in our culture is an attack on Christianity, because an attack. 0.98

00:26:52.640 Christianity is the last bastion against a full or materialistic worldview that they're trying to push on us from around the world.

00:27:04.940 This is what they want.

00:27:05.880 They got to get Christianity out of the way because Christianity has a

00:27:09.800 transcendental moral foundational complex that keeps other people's morality 0.58

00:27:15.500 in check.

00:27:16.140 Right.

00:27:17.140 Agreed.

00:27:18.500 Well, so we need to have our accurate view of the past and we need to have a

00:27:22.360 biblical view of the future and whatever we do,

00:27:25.660 even on the things that we disagree on, we need to, um,

00:27:28.760 we need to obey all of Christ,

00:27:31.280 all of his commandments and every, every avenue of life.

00:27:35.360 Amen?

00:27:35.880 Right.

00:27:36.780 I agree.

00:27:37.340 All right.

00:27:37.700 Gary, thanks so much for coming on the show.

00:27:39.440 Really appreciate it.

00:27:40.140 Thank you, Joel.

00:27:40.760 Appreciate it.

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The NXR Podcast - September 13, 2022

THEOLOGY APPLIED - Who Is “The Man Of Lawlessness”？｜ with Dr. Gary DeMar

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The NXR Podcast - September 13, 2022

THEOLOGY APPLIED - Who Is “The Man Of Lawlessness”？ ｜ with Dr. Gary DeMar

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THEOLOGY APPLIED - Who Is “The Man Of Lawlessness”？｜ with Dr. Gary DeMar