The Peter Attia Drive - February 21, 2020


Qualy #116 - Dealing with anger in spots where you know it's coming


Episode Stats

Length

8 minutes

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176.34918

Word Count

1,538

Sentence Count

104


Summary

In this bonus episode of The Qualies, I sit down with a good friend of mine to talk about anger and how to deal with it. We talk about what anger is, why it's toxic, and what to do about it.


Transcript

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00:00:39.900 I think it was in one of your lessons, but it might've been in a podcast where you talk
00:00:44.960 about, imagine you're playing a video game and it's the same video game every time. And
00:00:51.760 you always get killed by the same monster at the same part of the maze or whatever it is.
00:00:56.480 And I think about that a lot every time I falter at predictably, you know, known, understood
00:01:04.900 things that get under my skin. And it's very discouraging, right? It's sort of like a, there
00:01:09.360 are like a dozen things that I just know if they happen. So, I mean, one of them is there's
00:01:14.980 certain types of questions that if I'm asked really irk me. You know, when people ask questions
00:01:20.140 that are to which the answer is very complicated, but they ask through the lens of just give me the
00:01:26.180 one word answer, that just irks me. Like, I don't know why it just bugs the shit out of me.
00:01:31.400 And I know that. And yet over and over again, I find myself getting upset when that happens.
00:01:38.140 Right.
00:01:38.460 And I feel like the guy that you're describing in the video game.
00:01:40.860 You're losing the boss fight at the same place every time.
00:01:43.420 Every single time. I know where the boogeyman is. I know what weapon he's going to use to kill me.
00:01:49.040 And I just walk over there and out comes the machete and I'm dead. And then I'm back to the
00:01:54.860 starting block again. And I'm one, one fewer lives in the game. Right.
00:01:58.080 Mm-hmm. But you can recover faster each time you lose. Getting angry is not the measure of having
00:02:06.380 lost, right? Obviously, you can aspire to a time where you never get angry again, or you never get
00:02:12.360 angry in certain circumstances again. But the real practice is to notice as early as possible what's
00:02:21.740 happening and to let go of it. The difference between being angry for 10 minutes and 10 seconds
00:02:28.080 and one second, those factors of 10 are enormous, right? And I have the same thing going on where
00:02:37.480 anger is something that I very frequently feel. And I also notice that it totally contaminates the
00:02:44.880 experience of people around me. So I have my wife and my daughters and my anger for them is clearly
00:02:51.240 toxic. And I have this commitment to letting go of it the moment I can let go of it. And
00:02:57.980 again, it's not that anger is never warranted. The energy of anger can be useful. Someone's
00:03:03.180 attacking you on the sidewalk, you know, and you're in a self-defense situation. That's not
00:03:07.920 the moment where I would say, get rid of all your anger as quickly as possible, right? I mean,
00:03:11.220 there are situations where you want to use that energy. But for the most part, you want to let go of
00:03:18.100 it very, very quickly. And then be in a position to decide what's what and whether or not it's
00:03:24.360 appropriate to take some kind of, you know, confrontational path, whatever it is, by email
00:03:29.740 or, you know, say the thing that would convey your displeasure or whatever. But now I have my wife and
00:03:37.560 my daughters as a kind of feedback mechanism for me because they know my commitment. They know I can
00:03:43.440 let go of anger on demand and they know I want to, and they don't like my anger. Right. And they
00:03:50.920 detect it in the subtlest way. So like, I mean, it's not, it's not even anger where a normal person
00:03:59.400 would classically think he was angry. They don't have to wait till you raise your voice. They can
00:04:03.780 see the mannerisms in the way you might move or the way your answers become shorter or something.
00:04:10.480 Yeah. Yeah. Or it may just, so, but like, you know, even mild frustration gets scored as, you know,
00:04:17.200 a kind of crazy level of anger. Right. So like, if I, you know, if I say, wait a minute, I thought
00:04:21.960 the plumber was coming today. That's like, you know, that, you know, that's a four alarm fire. Right.
00:04:28.180 So one of my daughters will say, Ooh, daddy's getting angry. Right. And they'll say that so early now
00:04:33.520 and it's fantastic because it's, I just let go of it way earlier than I used to. But if you can't be
00:04:41.480 mindful, you actually have no choice. You know, you just, you will be angry as long as you're angry
00:04:46.840 and the people around you who don't like it just have to figure out somehow to put up with you.
00:04:53.900 So it's not that there's no other hacks. There are many other hacks and sometimes, sometimes there,
00:05:00.280 it's important to have a hack that is more global than being simply being relentlessly mindful of
00:05:07.620 everything that's coming up for you. Like a different understanding of a situation can offer
00:05:14.000 some kind of firmware update to the whole operating system. And then you, you just simply don't go
00:05:20.100 there anymore. So for instance, I mean, so you're, you're driving in traffic. There are many hacks for
00:05:25.680 that, but one hack is just, you discover that you've got 400 hours of podcasts you want to listen
00:05:31.340 to and you're listening to a great one and you, you're just, you're just happy to be listening.
00:05:35.900 And the fact that you're delayed an extra half hour or whatever is fine, you know, and that's a
00:05:41.800 totally useful hack, right? It modulates your state. You're, you're just, you're just discovering the
00:05:46.760 silver lining to something that's, that would otherwise be negative.
00:05:49.300 And I'll, I'll share with you another one. Cause I agree with that completely. That's a great one.
00:05:52.720 The other one that I've taken on in the past year that has had surprising efficacy is any customer
00:05:59.680 service experience you have that is profoundly negative. And if you fly as much as I do, you're
00:06:05.560 pretty much guaranteed one of those a week. My friend, Jay Walker, who knows a lot about the
00:06:10.580 aviation industry said one out of six experiences with us aviation is a customer service failure.
00:06:16.940 Right. So anyone who flies would agree with that. But so the next time, like the flight
00:06:22.040 attendant's rude to you or the TSA person is sweating you or being obnoxious or whatever,
00:06:27.280 if you instead take a view of empathy, which is, God, this is a really hard job. You know,
00:06:35.360 I mean, like I have the privilege of getting to be, you know, intellectually engaged and doing all
00:06:40.220 of these things and boom, boom, boom. But this is a really hard job. I mean, most of the people
00:06:44.260 that they're encountering are on some level dissatisfied. Nobody's showing up to, to their
00:06:49.680 world happy. And so like simply taking that posture completely changes the way you interact
00:06:56.580 with that system. Yeah. And it's interesting because it doesn't even really require a huge
00:07:00.980 mindfulness insight. It's just sort of a, but it's a, it's a condition you want to walk in the
00:07:06.240 situation with, right? You want to be able to walk in with that in your mind.
00:07:09.440 Yeah. It's a framing effect.
00:07:10.600 Yeah. Yeah. And it doesn't entail mindfulness at all. You could get the benefit of that new
00:07:15.900 framing without ever having heard of mindfulness. So you, you know, if you do get angry, you'll be
00:07:21.240 as angry as, as you ever were, but you have a different way of thinking about it.
00:07:25.720 Yeah. The combination of these is powerful.
00:07:27.440 Yeah.
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