The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - Breakfast With Beau ｜ Friday 10th July 2026

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00:00:31.360 i'm joined by my producer little harry howard this morning good sir morning i'm all good okay

00:00:36.400 the disembodied voice from the ether of the all-powerful producer uh we will do a normal

00:00:42.320 show today other than i'm joined by a guest very special returning guest one mr professor edward

00:00:48.080 dutton how are you sir hello hello good morning yes i'm obviously obviously very sad to have learned

00:00:55.520 of the death of Anne Whittacombe.

00:00:59.000 I wish I could have known her,

00:01:01.360 but I was just a kid.

00:01:03.280 A candle went out long before

00:01:04.600 her legend ever did. 0.98

00:01:06.060 The eccentric spinster of people's hearts.

00:01:09.700 All joking stroke sarcasm aside.

00:01:12.220 Were you a fan?

00:01:13.240 I didn't mind her.

00:01:14.360 I was a fan.

00:01:15.160 I was a fan.

00:01:15.660 I found out at about eight o'clock last night,

00:01:18.680 British time,

00:01:19.440 via a friend who knows her friend.

00:01:21.900 Oh, really?

00:01:22.400 Okay.

00:01:22.520 And I once was in a sort of an online secret Zoom group where I chatted to her and she was very sporting and very good fun.

00:01:35.040 And I remember saying to her, why in 2001, when William Hague lost the election and she was Shadow Home Secretary, didn't she stand to be leader of the Conservative Party?

00:01:44.420 And she said that because she just didn't have enough support because people just thought she was odd, which I suppose she was a bit odd.

00:01:51.360 She's the kind of person I imagine that wouldn't get through the selection processes to be a Conservative MP these days.

00:01:57.600 Yeah.

00:01:57.900 Which is too eccentric and unusual and not boring, which is a problem. 1.00

00:02:03.240 Yeah, she certainly was a little bit odd, a little bit of an oddball.

00:02:06.820 But I had respect for her because she seemed to me to be a person who actually had the courage of her convictions.

00:02:13.160 She had views that weren't palatable to a lot of mainstream politics or even a fair chunk of the electorate.

00:02:20.020 And she stood by them anyway.

00:02:21.140 She was very strong on things like gay marriage, immigration borders, 0.84

00:02:25.140 the death penalty, and she just stood by her views.

00:02:29.220 It's relatively rare these days, unfortunately, isn't it?

00:02:32.880 No, exactly.

00:02:33.600 I mean, for example, she converted to Catholicism in 1993

00:02:36.320 simply because she was against women priests.

00:02:39.580 Well, whatever you think about women priests, 1.00

00:02:41.800 saying that these days would get you sanctioned 1.00

00:02:44.940 or get you thrown out of the Conservative Party, probably,

00:02:46.960 or something like that.

00:02:48.100 and she was extremely tough on crime she wasn't having she wasn't messing about with that they 1.00

00:02:53.160 had they got they got very upset with her because she shackled pregnant women um convicts when she

00:02:59.720 was a home office minister and so i think that her kind is exactly the kind that we wouldn't the

00:03:06.780 the slightly eccentric the slightly unusual but the person that sticks by their principles and

00:03:11.720 that therefore you can kind of respect them who just wouldn't be allowed to be a conservative

00:03:15.940 MP these days they all have to be these bland

00:03:17.920 boring David Cameron types

00:03:20.120 that are allowed to be Conservative MPs

00:03:22.040 and I think that's a real problem and a real shame

00:03:23.680 it was back when the local associations

00:03:26.020 it took her ages to become an MP

00:03:28.120 as well like decades

00:03:30.100 of trying before she was

00:03:31.980 selected for a winnable seat

00:03:33.220 but they were selected in those days

00:03:35.980 by the local Conservative associations not by

00:03:38.020 central office and so you could get all

00:03:40.020 kinds of interesting eccentrics and

00:03:41.580 that era is now gone

00:03:42.840 Well just to have a quick look just to let people

00:03:45.880 know look former minister uh tory minister it was under john major wasn't it she was actually in

00:03:51.160 government uh and when he comes to 78 i've had a quick look at some of the isn't it's sort of

00:03:56.120 breaking news or overnight they haven't said what she's actually died of look itv news front and

00:04:00.600 center um it is sort of it's not on the uh front pages of the of of fleet street but all the yeah

00:04:07.320 look she did strictly come dance as well didn't she okay that was a bit bit cringed embarrassing

00:04:12.520 But okay

00:04:13.480 I had Celebrity Big Brother

00:04:15.500 She did Celebrity Big Brother as well

00:04:17.560 Where she was saying sceptical things

00:04:19.480 About homosexuality

00:04:22.140 And also about

00:04:23.480 Prince Harry's

00:04:25.600 Wonderful wife

00:04:26.860 She was saying she's trouble 1.00

00:04:27.940 Which has turned out that Meghan Markle has been trouble 1.00

00:04:31.540 She was correct about that 0.77

00:04:32.660 Because she was in the Brexit party

00:04:35.160 And then she was with Reform

00:04:37.300 And I once went to a

00:04:39.740 Reform conference

00:04:40.980 and other than Nigel

00:04:44.760 who, and Nigel to be fair

00:04:46.280 to him, you know, I don't agree with his

00:04:48.540 politics and his world view and everything, but as a public

00:04:50.580 speaker, he's actually very good, he's very engaged

00:04:52.540 he's better than 99% of people

00:04:54.500 the only other person that was actually good

00:04:56.880 on the stage with a mic

00:04:58.640 was Anne Widdicombe

00:05:00.000 I thought

00:05:01.620 so there you go

00:05:03.700 I remember that when she was, her first speech

00:05:06.660 at the Conservative Party conference when she was

00:05:08.660 Shadow Home Secretary, she was a

00:05:10.680 very good speaker she was very self-confident she was just her she was just herself yeah something

00:05:16.640 there was something genuine about her i mean the very fact that she was sure as louis theroux said 0.66

00:05:20.960 this fascinating woman she was short and dumpy with massive breasts and and he he found her

00:05:27.120 quite extraordinary she was direct and to the point and she got very angry with him when during

00:05:32.760 the she did this fly the war documentary with louis theroux louis meets and she didn't want to

00:05:38.980 give away any information to him that was highly personal and so he just started interviewing her

00:05:42.980 89 year old mother and the 89 year old mother was just saying to him things like i've never

00:05:47.440 understood her you know she's never really been interested in boys i don't i don't i don't really

00:05:51.360 get it i don't really understand her and she got very upset about that but she was very she was

00:05:55.820 very direct it was very interesting yeah yeah so okay ann widdicombe um 78 years old all right

00:06:04.140 She was only on 1.00

00:06:06.240 Talk TV 0.92

00:06:07.860 The name of that thing

00:06:09.500 The day before yesterday

00:06:11.900 So I assume that she died of something

00:06:16.160 Very sudden like a heart attack

00:06:17.820 Probably a heart attack

00:06:20.220 Won't it be likely to be 1.00

00:06:21.200 She's a little bit heavier 0.92

00:06:22.360 Probably just a heart attack 0.77

00:06:25.320 We don't know

00:06:25.980 Okay so yeah she was someone that

00:06:29.940 As you say was herself

00:06:31.740 And

00:06:33.180 unbelievably that's rare these days where someone's got a whole set of a worldview a whole set of

00:06:39.600 opinions on almost anything you can ask them about it and they will respond with their real

00:06:43.740 thoughts and feelings in real time you would hope that nearly everyone does that certainly

00:06:48.080 politicians certainly all politicians do that but it's really rare but she was one of those

00:06:52.320 okay no it's incredibly rare isn't it because you've got to you've got to climb the greasy pole

00:06:56.960 and so you've got to be careful what you say and you've got to work out uh how useful it is to say

00:07:02.520 whatever it is at exactly the right moment that's why there are so many people now that are expressing

00:07:07.640 opinions that they may well have always held you know based opinions about immigration or whatever

00:07:12.520 but they dare they wouldn't have expressed them 10 years ago no no no they have to wait until

00:07:17.500 the country has plunged into absolute chaos before saying like multiculturalism is not our strength or

00:07:23.560 that diversity is not our strength or we should restrict immigration that's what most of them are

00:07:28.560 like they're machiavellian and she may have been machiavellian in some ways i mean presumably you 1.00

00:07:33.660 have to be relatively machiavellian to get into any kind of senior position in politics but she

00:07:37.900 was much less clearly so yeah yeah i'd characterize those people another way moral cowards people

00:07:44.420 that remained in the tory party tory boys who remained there far far too long after the boris

00:07:49.660 wave and then only finally jumped ship to reform but now still make the argument endlessly that

00:07:54.580 restorer beyond the power those moral cowards yeah um okay let's get into the uh the fleet

00:08:00.980 street the the front pages because that is the mainstay of this show all right we've got bereaved 0.95

00:08:06.120 families fury this is a Rupert story and happy feet it's King Charles being a bit of a buffoon

00:08:12.500 so there's one front page the mirror and they go with this bereaved families of the Dunblane 0.97

00:08:19.000 massacre the bereaved families they're just head like ignorant like this mr rupert low mp 0.57

00:08:24.840 so what this is i don't know did you watch the joe rogan interview the rupert joe rogan thing 0.89

00:08:29.560 no i'm afraid i haven't watched that yet okay so i've watched it now i finished watching it

00:08:33.560 and there's one bit in it it's actually quite strong really i thought it was really quite

00:08:37.720 strong it's worth watching one of rupert's definitely i would say one of rupert's better

00:08:41.240 stronger interviews he's ever done and it was long it was like two hours and everything um

00:08:45.080 he talks all about things the travesty of the covid area the the rape gang inquiries are in

00:08:49.720 depth there's one bit i was talking about guns where rupert was talking about where reform and

00:08:54.680 nigel and zia tried to politically assassinate him and the police came around and took his guns away

00:08:58.600 he's half a wheelbarrow full of guns he's got because he's a farmer um joe wrote and they

00:09:02.920 talked very briefly about gun control and uh the dunblane massacre came up and joe rogan said that

00:09:11.960 was oh that was one murder was it and rupert said like this as well yeah one murder anyway and

00:09:18.900 carried on but he just repeated what joe had said one murder and then carried on talking about guns

00:09:24.320 and gun control now of course that's factually inaccurate isn't it was a massacre was it something

00:09:29.340 was it 16 kids and the teacher so it so right in scotland um so they're saying that the the

00:09:41.100 The bereaved families are furious about it and it's just pure ignorance from Rupert Lowe

00:09:44.960 and outrage as Restore Britain chief downplays Dunblane school massacre as one murder.

00:09:50.800 Now my take on this, and I wonder what yours is, is that he absolutely wasn't downplaying it.

00:09:55.160 He obviously misspoke as if Rupert Lowe doesn't know that was a mass casualty event.

00:10:00.140 There's no way you can be aware of the Dunblane massacre and not know it's a mass casualty event.

00:10:04.980 For me, it's a clear-cut, obvious case of misspeaking.

00:10:11.100 yes but there you go but there you go they're trying to spin it what do you think well yeah

00:10:15.740 obviously they i mean he's just be he's just you could you could imagine in the moment he's doing

00:10:20.360 he's doing the interview the uh joe rogan says it's just one murder uh in his in his mind he

00:10:26.500 can rupert might conflate one murder with one incident exactly and it's and it's and it's and

00:10:31.700 it's one one incident of murder and the the word of a mass murder um and the the the word of is

00:10:40.000 removed and they just need to find the slightest thing it's obviously misspeaking you know as you

00:10:44.640 say the slightest thing to pick him up on the slightest thing to demonize him and and it's

00:10:49.700 rather pathetic really because it's quite obvious no british person of his age anyway is not going

00:10:55.500 to know about the the dunblane massacre and that it was a massacre so it's it's just absolutely 0.97

00:11:01.580 pathetic yeah yeah it was literally you missed the word of and also you do that thing you know

00:11:06.700 what it's like you've done enough for speaking where miss misspeaking is really quite common 0.69

00:11:11.920 for example i just won the other day i meant to say uh 1914 and i said 1814 i knew what i was

00:11:19.340 talking about my mouth just said the wrong thing i know in my new film on uh on moldova i travel

00:11:25.800 around moldova and i see it as a place that british people could start emigrating to to kind

00:11:29.900 of keep keep a civilization going because it's cheap and there's so much space and i said that

00:11:35.740 well about 57 percent of people there are female uh because of the men going abroad to get work

00:11:43.200 and that kind of thing and and uh and i added that they lose their virginity earlier i meant to say

00:11:49.940 later they lose their virginity uh later because there's so few men there's just so few men to

00:11:57.280 choose from in in moldova if you're a woman because a lot because a vast lots of men have

00:12:02.300 gone abroad but i said earlier and there's no correcting it really unless you unless you

00:12:06.560 so that is a very common thing to do unfortunately and in fact um on my epochs this sunday i'm

00:12:13.020 talking about henry the eighth and at one point i go to mention his son edward the sixth and i'll

00:12:18.920 just say james the sixth it's just wrong it's just flatly incorrect my mouth just said wrong i know

00:12:24.100 it's edward edward the sixth and all that you just sometimes you just you just say the wrong thing

00:12:29.420 You confused it with the Scottish king

00:12:32.580 That succeeded Elizabeth I

00:12:34.320 Right, okay, yeah

00:12:35.740 The other thing, I don't know if this happens to you

00:12:37.480 Quite often my brain, my thinking

00:12:40.120 Is far ahead of what my mouth's saying

00:12:43.300 It's two or three steps ahead

00:12:44.640 And my mouth is effectively on autopilot a bit

00:12:47.580 Because I'm thinking what the next thing I'm going to say

00:12:49.760 Or even things a few minutes from now

00:12:51.900 I'm actually mulling over in my head

00:12:53.280 And I'm letting my mouth just on autopilot

00:12:55.780 And that's when you can really misspeak

00:12:57.640 and you don't even hear yourself say the wrong thing.

00:13:00.820 Do you know what I'm talking about?

00:13:01.820 Yeah, I do know what you're talking about.

00:13:04.300 Yeah, and I think that my example in Moldova 0.52

00:13:05.900 of them losing their virginity earlier,

00:13:07.560 even though I've just said that there's a lack of men

00:13:10.380 and which, of course, causes suspense to crisis,

00:13:12.700 is exactly an example of this.

00:13:15.780 It's very, very common.

00:13:16.760 It's very, very common in writing as well,

00:13:18.200 when you miss out words when you're writing,

00:13:19.960 if you ever do that, that you're thinking a bit ahead

00:13:23.560 and so you jump a word.

00:13:25.160 So it really is to pick up on the absolute minutiae of something he says in a two hour interview, which is obviously quite a grueling thing to do when he's tired, he might be jet lagged.

00:13:38.380 And you just in the moment when he wants to be sociable and not correct, he's into the cooter as well.

00:13:44.920 And so he just and so he just says, yes, one murder is really, really desperate tactics.

00:13:50.340 And I can't believe anybody but somebody that already dislikes Rupert could possibly be persuaded by this

00:13:56.720 Very, very disingenuous vector of attack, yeah

00:14:00.180 The other thing that I found as interesting about this is that

00:14:02.060 Out of all the things Rupert and Joe talked about

00:14:04.520 Out of all the travesties and all the problems in this country

00:14:08.120 Including issues with the mainstream media

00:14:10.580 They ignore all of that, they omit all of that

00:14:14.280 And just go with this slip of the tongue

00:14:15.620 Absolutely gross

00:14:17.200 Okay, let's go on, let's look at the telegraph 0.84

00:14:19.000 Look, there's Charles Saxe-Coburg and Gotham with his sausage fingers

00:14:23.560 Striking a pose

00:14:25.020 Happy feet

00:14:27.100 They went to London Zoo

00:14:28.560 The King and Queen were at London Zoo

00:14:30.020 Stand in front of the penguin enclosure

00:14:31.980 Happy feet

00:14:33.260 That's it, there's not much more to it than that

00:14:36.420 I mean

00:14:36.760 The point of going to London Zoo now

00:14:38.500 I was about 20 years ago

00:14:39.900 I thought about going to London Zoo with some friends

00:14:41.960 And we discovered they don't even have elephants at London Zoo anymore

00:14:44.720 Even though

00:14:46.440 No, even though

00:14:48.100 maybe they do now but they didn't 20 years ago even though the sign for a zoo the actual legal

00:14:53.100 sign for a zoo is an elephant so i think that's just going against trading standards if you don't

00:14:58.780 have elephants at a zoo and the sign for a zoo is a giant elephant it's absolutely ridiculous

00:15:04.460 if there's basic things you want of a zoo right like monkeys there's got to be monkeys at a zoo

00:15:10.200 what's the point of going if there aren't monkeys having a laugh and and an elephant so i at least

00:15:17.180 it's more impressive than the kind of zoos that you have in northern finland where it's things

00:15:20.560 like wolverines and and nonsense like that but who cares i think i've i think i told this anecdote

00:15:27.900 once before but i remember getting in trouble going to london zoo once when i was a small child

00:15:31.880 under 10 i'd never seen giraffes before i really wanted to see a giraffe and in my small child's

00:15:36.760 mind maybe i was as young as six or seven i thought giraffes might be the size of a block

00:15:41.100 of flats i might i thought they might be like 10 stories tall and when i get there and they're only

00:15:46.200 18 foot tall or something

00:15:48.720 I was underwhelmed

00:15:49.480 Did you say something

00:15:53.000 That would get you in trouble these days

00:15:54.660 For being offensive to giraffes

00:15:56.680 Oh no I just expressed to my mum

00:15:58.700 That she'd spent all this time

00:16:01.220 And money to take me to the zoo

00:16:02.480 And I was like oh 1.00

00:16:03.260 And she was like you're so ungrateful

00:16:05.220 She got angry that I was underwhelmed

00:16:07.780 You know when you're a small child

00:16:10.140 Your perspective

00:16:11.480 Your frame of reference for things

00:16:14.340 You haven't really got one

00:16:16.200 No, no, I suppose I suppose not. You expected that they would be the size of buildings.

00:16:22.020 Yeah. Yeah. And and large buildings.

00:16:24.640 And they're just they're just these things with long necks that when they run, though, when they run, they look very silly.

00:16:31.720 If you see if you see the images of one of the running, it's like they're skipping.

00:16:37.520 It's it's it's very, very strange.

00:16:39.140 Yes, I that's the weird thing about having children.

00:16:41.440 that then you you you you go to zoos yourself as a child and there's a long period of time where

00:16:47.060 you just don't go to zoos or uh farms or uh theme parks and then when you are in your 30s or 20s

00:16:56.300 or whatever and if you have you have children then then suddenly there you go back again going

00:17:00.380 to these kinds of farms where you touch the animals and theme parks and zoos and that time

00:17:05.460 is now over so my kids are now teenagers and so they're not interested so i quite i kind of miss

00:17:10.200 going to there's this farm in leatherhead called brockett's farm where you can go and you can

00:17:15.480 stroke the animals and give them food and stuff like that and i was going i was going there like

00:17:19.920 10 years ago with my kids and now that's that time is gone that time is over if you were to go there

00:17:24.000 other than with kids you'd be a complete weirdo so i i kind of missed that now it's that's over

00:17:31.060 until until i have if i have grandchildren yeah you have to wait for the grandchildren

00:17:34.980 Okay, Badenoch purges MPs who back net zero.

00:17:39.140 Tory leader says she wants teachers and builders as candidates,

00:17:42.160 not failed politicians.

00:17:44.540 It's just really that sort of going forward.

00:17:47.200 It's not that headline sort of suggests she's purging her current crop of MPs.

00:17:50.920 It's not that.

00:17:51.940 It's sort of going forward, candidates going forward is what it really is.

00:17:55.700 Do you think that's an interesting, or what's your take on the idea

00:18:00.000 that the paradigm shifting in Parliament,

00:18:02.420 that they want more sort of normal people, particularly more local people to be candidates rather than just a parachuted in Eaton, Oxbridge type.

00:18:12.280 Yes, I think that's a very interesting move and it's a move back to what it was like.

00:18:16.640 If you think about it, when we were kids, there were two kinds of people that were or there was an extent to which there were two kinds of people that were MPs.

00:18:24.660 you had the aristocratic people on the conservative benches and yes they were aristocratic but they

00:18:30.500 were kind of based in the sense that they were farmers and this and this keeps you in touch with

00:18:35.500 the real world and it means you're actually running a kind of business and also a lot of the time

00:18:41.560 they had a sort of sense of noblesse of legion that they and their ancestors and the good of

00:18:46.940 the people and they have to do the right thing to some extent at least by the ordinary people as

00:18:51.720 And they've been inculcated with that idea of public school and so forth.

00:18:54.800 Going back to that book that you reviewed of mine, Churchill's Headmaster, those kinds of schools.

00:18:59.720 And on the other hand, you have people that were based because they were actually the Labour MPs.

00:19:05.020 A lot of them were either from very working class backgrounds or they were like Jim Callaghan or somebody or they were actually working class. 0.72

00:19:11.600 They had been done minds. And back when the salary for MPs was not good, then they would be sponsored by a trade union to be the MP.

00:19:21.720 uh they paid by them okay yeah that meant that they were beholden to a trade union but they

00:19:26.000 were often minors or or whatever so they they had they were in a sense based they'd suffered

00:19:31.380 they'd they'd uh they'd been in touch with real life and there weren't so many middle-class mps

00:19:37.580 lawyers or doctors or whatever because they couldn't afford to be mps because as i said

00:19:41.520 salaries were so bad uh 500 pounds a year when winston churchill was an mp so um and now those

00:19:48.620 all gone you don't have you have hardly anybody like that that's a member of parliament now and

00:19:53.080 they're all professional politicians that that's all they've done since university or people like

00:19:58.980 lawyers so i think it's probably and that changes the nature of the parliament it changes their

00:20:04.360 interests it changes the degree to which they're in touch with ordinary people and it changes their

00:20:08.480 understanding of money and of the consequences of their actions so i think it's actually rather a

00:20:12.980 good thing no i'd absolutely agree with you i would rather somebody that's uh sort of genuinely

00:20:19.440 old money money aristocrat and has got that uh that sense of a real real sense of what's in the

00:20:25.800 nation's interest and they don't need the money or a full-blown working class person that's led 0.99

00:20:32.020 a life the worst possible thing is like a 22 23 year old who's come from oxford with a ppe and 1.00

00:20:38.900 doesn't know anything really they're exactly the type of person i don't want as an mp

00:20:44.940 no those people those people are going to be um individualistic they're going to be selfish

00:20:51.680 they're going to be machiavellian they're going to uh be totally career driven they're going to

00:20:57.440 be all about themselves um they are the worst kind of person to become an mp the best kind of person

00:21:03.500 to become an mp is the kind of person that is asked to do it the kind of person where people

00:21:08.520 say you you you you seem like the right kind of trap you should stand for parliament that's the

00:21:12.920 best kind of person to do it and the worst kind of person to do is the person that wants to do it

00:21:18.180 because that person is going to be narcissistic that as you said that person is going to be

00:21:23.000 ambitious that person is going to be all about themselves and um if even if they've if they've

00:21:28.240 gone into a profession like law or whatever well at least they've done something at least they've

00:21:32.640 if you're a barrister for example you're self-employed so you've got you've got to understand

00:21:37.460 money and so forth but a lot of it many it's not even that they literally do their politics degree

00:21:43.960 and then go into working for a political party and they've done they've got no experience of

00:21:48.820 real life it's a relatively new problem and someone like David Cameron epitomizes that

00:21:54.260 and they've got although he's old money but they've got no experience of anything so no it's

00:21:59.720 it's no it's it's no it's no good it's these ambitious individualistic selfish types rather

00:22:04.660 than people that have um that go into some kind of profession like my where they're in touch with

00:22:10.420 the world and then um and then are asked to do it so the worst kind of people who want to do it

00:22:14.600 that's why gk chesterton that book the napoleon of notting hill uh in in the book being prime

00:22:19.960 minister or president is just like jury service they just pick a random person by lottery and

00:22:25.200 that person is in charge that's an interesting idea that's an interesting idea okay let's talk

00:22:30.460 a tiny bit about count bin face first baron bin face here we go millionaire vince that guy uh that

00:22:37.480 um that eco warrior guy uh backs bin face to take on farage in by-election saying that he's gonna

00:22:42.740 he'll finance sort of a little bit more well a lot more of the campaign of count bin face to run

00:22:49.740 against farage in clacton uh was it dale vince isn't it you must know him what do you think

00:22:54.740 about that headline going back to what you're saying i don't know um about dale vince's but

00:23:00.180 going back to what you're saying about people that are haven't really done a proper job and

00:23:06.100 are just part of the establishment and that kind of thing as i understand it this guy is an oxbridge

00:23:11.900 educated a former bbc script writer john harvey the real man the man behind the bin right so he's

00:23:19.440 the establishment then isn't he he's he's the establishment and being as he's been a bbc

00:23:23.860 let's assume he's probably quite left-wing oh yeah yeah yeah i mean yeah quick thing to say

00:23:28.960 about that though ed quick thing to say about that yeah okay the man john harvey does seem to

00:23:33.060 be plugged into sort of the the whole bbc and the establishment and the lefty lefty leaning

00:23:38.500 all of that stuff yeah in that sense establishment yeah i was talking to a friend about it last night

00:23:43.540 but exactly that yeah but but he's running as the character count binface who is just absurd

00:23:50.580 though i mean he is he is absurd yes but the fact the fact that the left-wing establishment

00:24:00.260 are now behind him implies that they understand he behind the absurdity is their kind of man

00:24:10.740 i.e he's been to pop university and he's implicitly left-wing by virtue of having been a bbc

00:24:17.200 script writer in recent years so all they had to do it strikes me and someone else was saying this

00:24:24.240 on twitter all they had to do was shut up and people might have voted just not say anything

00:24:29.500 and people might have voted bin face and he might have been elected and it would be hilarious and

00:24:33.820 Nigel Farage would be humiliated and his career would be ruined but now by publicly getting behind

00:24:38.820 him they are basically saying that he is the de facto leftist establishment which might put some

00:24:44.420 people off voting for him i think they should have said nothing and allowed him to organically

00:24:50.060 be elected and i hope yeah i mean even so i kind of hope he is elected uh well yeah me too just for

00:24:58.980 the just for the lulls if nothing else well just to damage reform just to damage nigel it would it

00:25:07.360 would be very very humiliating for nigel and it's such a petulant thing to do the idea that there's

00:25:13.080 investigation into him and so i'm going to draw attention away from that by uh standing for 0.74

00:25:19.140 parliament by pointlessly creating a by-election and getting the backing of the people of clackton

00:25:23.800 well what does that actually mean i mean the people of clackton we know that they strongly

00:25:27.540 uh back uh reform and those kinds of policies i mean these are the people that elected

00:25:32.260 douglas carswell as a ukip member in a by-election so the strong likelihood is that

00:25:40.580 But the worst thing with that by-election, of course, you had other parties standing, as I recall.

00:25:45.880 But with this by-election, if nobody stands apart from a few obscure, the British Democrats are going to stand or whatever.

00:25:54.360 So if nobody stands apart from a few obscure people, then every anti-Farage element within Claxton can be focused into Count Vinface and he could realistically win.

00:26:03.560 but what i think is vital is that he maintains his uh his persona while he is an mp including

00:26:12.300 the stupid voice because there was a case wasn't there about 20 years ago i think i'm right in 0.99

00:26:17.260 saying of a monster raving loony party um candidate that was elected and possibly 1.00

00:26:23.360 was there even some case of some comic candidate that was elected as a local mayor

00:26:28.320 about 20 years ago there was something like this so um he has to he has to keep in the persona i

00:26:37.080 think it would be interesting to see should he win i don't think he will even though the odds

00:26:41.620 aren't that long but i don't think he will overturn nigel's 8400 majority but just say he did just for

00:26:47.240 argument's sake if he did um whether he would at that point take off the bin costume and go to

00:26:56.160 parliament in a normal suit and collar and tire and be john harvey and actually sit on the back

00:27:02.060 benches and actually take part in politics seriously or or not or because apart from

00:27:08.960 anything else i'm pretty sure that the chamber won't let you go in there wearing that

00:27:14.140 wearing that costume for a start well they won't they just won't um so just for argument's sake

00:27:21.620 should Mr Harvey win

00:27:23.780 it would be interesting to see

00:27:25.820 what he would do if he would

00:27:27.840 take the

00:27:29.320 take the costume off

00:27:31.300 and start acting as an actual

00:27:33.860 MP

00:27:34.220 no no no that would be

00:27:37.100 completely unacceptable

00:27:38.380 I'm trying to find out

00:27:40.360 the 2024 Clacton election

00:27:43.740 it says

00:27:45.780 here

00:27:46.120 I'm trying to know what the turnout was

00:27:48.700 Nigel got 46% of the vote

00:27:51.120 I'm trying to find out what the turnout was from Wikipedia

00:27:54.080 I can't immediately see what the

00:27:56.020 turnout was but he didn't get

00:27:57.920 more than half of the votes if there's essentially

00:27:59.900 only two candidates

00:28:00.920 then he might be in trouble

00:28:03.780 I don't know if they'd let you go in

00:28:06.020 dressed like that I've absolutely

00:28:07.740 no idea

00:28:08.740 I mean he could argue that he was 0.99

00:28:11.760 elected as Count Binface and therefore he needs 0.99

00:28:13.840 to be able to be Count 0.99

00:28:15.740 Binface 1.00

00:28:16.360 I'm pretty sure as a man you're not allowed in there 1.00

00:28:19.780 without a tyre you know like a club oh no that's not no i thought that was the case that's not

00:28:23.540 true i've seen i've seen in recent okay in recent decades people not wearing ties oh fair enough

00:28:29.100 all right well uh so you you can and of course uh margaret thatcher never wore a tie oh yeah

00:28:34.500 the tie is different for women of course well yeah for women yeah but i'm talking about margaret

00:28:39.320 thatcher but but um the um the the um yeah the i don't know it's hard i don't i don't know what

00:28:50.240 you're allowed not if there's actually any strict rules on what you are and are not allowed to wear

00:28:53.740 in the house of commons i don't know it's interesting okay so let's move on the express

00:28:59.140 it's a good paper you can read your express now are you a fan of alan partridge ed i was a fan

00:29:07.100 a bit before i realized what an insufferable leftist steve coogan was it's very it's very

00:29:12.740 difficult to have to to realize that what was it they said someone said about um andrew motion 0.84

00:29:19.540 said about philip larkin because he was known to he was asked to be this racist and sexist and

00:29:25.500 whatever but he writes this amazing poetry and andrew motion commented that the most incredible 0.98

00:29:30.040 roses can can can grow out of the most appalling shit this is and he argued this is true of 0.84

00:29:37.000 philip larkin and maybe that's alan partridge that's true of steve coogan as well that he 0.99

00:29:41.800 comes across to be an awful person dogmatic unpleasant bitter kind of guy but yet he

00:29:47.880 produced but i think it's the worst thing is that it keeps going i mean alan partridge

00:29:52.960 which was quite old even 20 years ago.

00:29:57.060 It's 30 years old, more than 30 years old.

00:30:00.920 It's still going because we don't dare now 1.00

00:30:04.300 in our old society that's run by women 1.00

00:30:07.360 who are cautious to do new things. 1.00

00:30:10.320 So you can't have new interesting stuff anymore.

00:30:13.060 I can't believe it's still going.

00:30:15.280 But I did like when he lived in the hotel

00:30:21.040 and when he lived in the caravan.

00:30:24.340 Those were the two.

00:30:26.480 There's one in the caravan series

00:30:28.140 when he puts his foot on a spike

00:30:29.600 and he has to do a talk

00:30:31.760 and he talks about the Express,

00:30:33.120 that it's a good paper.

00:30:34.320 I do that nearly every day.

00:30:35.220 Okay, here's the headline.

00:30:36.480 Badenok, Olukemi Badenok,

00:30:38.200 the Nigerian woman,

00:30:39.940 slams Andy Bumham,

00:30:41.360 King of the North,

00:30:42.260 and Farage for nonsense happening

00:30:44.980 at a pivotal moment.

00:30:46.900 Kemi, Olukemi,

00:30:48.060 only Tories have serious policies.

00:30:49.740 Hmm.

00:30:51.040 do they do they i don't i don't know how i don't know how how um how serious their policies are

00:30:59.480 and i the the idea that uh you can suddenly start saying you're going to do something about

00:31:04.960 immigration when you've had 14 years in power to do something about immigration and you made

00:31:09.800 immigration very considerably worse than your predecessors i mean i as you know got the hell

00:31:15.920 out of england in 2005 because i was afraid it was turning into a tyranny and also because i was

00:31:21.480 the sixth death of the immigration problem and then in that period of time they they it's not

00:31:27.600 that they did nothing about it they reversed it they made it so much worse and then the the boris

00:31:33.760 wave was just quite unbelievable and unforgivable and i cannot understand how he could even think

00:31:39.280 of doing that while people were locked down or whatever

00:31:43.780 and there was no news about it.

00:31:46.040 So I've no time for the Conservative Party.

00:31:49.840 I don't see how you can trust them.

00:31:50.960 And also I don't like this idea that I can see why it's the case.

00:31:56.040 I can see how it's happened, that we're so concerned

00:31:58.780 about being accused of being racist that you have to put up

00:32:02.860 a um a black or asian champion who is allowed to get away with talking about race because you can't

00:32:13.700 because you're white and that's and as i we discussed offline that's the situation that

00:32:18.820 we're kind of in and um and that's what we've got with kemi as far as i can see i mean she's

00:32:23.620 did she not she's an anchor baby born in britain leaves the country comes back when she's 16 or

00:32:30.860 something like that so she's she's not by no reasonable definition is she is she british

00:32:36.960 um yeah and and uh but then she suddenly adopted this posh accent and there's videos of her

00:32:44.140 speaking in nigerian accent not even that long ago is there i haven't seen any of those that's

00:32:48.640 interesting yeah yeah a literal actual anchor baby what what and the fact that look most most

00:32:56.580 of the time now for quite a few years now the home secretary usually has to be a brown person

00:33:00.900 because a white person just can't get away with saying anything that's even remotely in the

00:33:06.620 interest of the people the native people can't get away with guarding our borders or can't get

00:33:11.960 away with the with the laws that uh sufficiently deal with a certain criminal element within the 0.99

00:33:17.220 country no well it was worse than that wasn't i mean there was a period of time where almost

00:33:20.780 three of the four

00:33:22.120 high offices of state

00:33:23.880 were foreigners. 0.53

00:33:26.400 So it's just 1.00

00:33:28.140 very, very

00:33:30.360 silly at this stage, and I can't... 0.94

00:33:32.260 One of the problems, you've got the image of 0.98

00:33:34.260 what is that? Nigel Farage and

00:33:36.280 Lawrence Fox.

00:33:37.360 Yeah, bring that up, Harry.

00:33:40.380 One of the problems on the right

00:33:42.440 though, is normally it's the left that's

00:33:44.480 split. I mean, famously that Life of

00:33:46.260 Brian sketch, where

00:33:47.200 people are popping from, whatever.

00:33:50.780 but it's now the right that are quite split and this because of this insistence on on the right

00:33:58.540 that oh we can be this right wing but no further right because this insistence because because

00:34:03.000 they themselves are afraid of being accused of being you know racist or whatever so we can be

00:34:07.280 this we can be this right wing but but no further like nigel farage um you only say a policy if i've

00:34:12.940 given it the the go ahead first and if you anything that's to my right like rupert loads it

00:34:18.080 And then you must go, even if I then adopt these policies, because we're so concerned about about about the accusations of racism and we are split on the right.

00:34:27.440 So now with regard to Clacton, for example, you have reform standing.

00:34:30.760 I understand that Restore are not standing. Yeah. In Clacton for some reason.

00:34:36.280 So I saw the ballot and it's Nigel Binface, Lawrence Fox and like two or is it three other completely novelty candidates.

00:34:43.320 So yeah, all the main parties

00:34:45.340 Labour, Conservative, Green, Lib Dem

00:34:47.480 All of them are refusing to stand

00:34:49.540 And so it's only Nigel

00:34:51.160 And four, is it five other

00:34:53.280 Completely novelty candidates

00:34:54.860 I mean, including, there you go, look

00:34:56.740 We've got a joke

00:34:59.980 A joke candidate

00:35:01.060 A novelty joke candidate

00:35:02.340 And a man dressed in a Fox

00:35:04.820 Outfit

00:35:06.420 So, I mean

00:35:07.960 That's not an allusion to Lawrence Fox

00:35:11.020 Yeah, yeah

00:35:12.060 that was an illusion to him can we get i'd like to see that can we get that i haven't actually

00:35:16.720 seen that would it be possible to have a look at that ballot paper do you think oh uh well harry

00:35:21.220 you'd have to can you can you uh if you can try and find that harry if you can try and find that

00:35:27.560 he'll try and find that for us in a moment yeah um because uh lawrence fox has got the reclaim

00:35:32.820 part isn't he i think he's i think it's his own part isn't it reclaim or anyway that's that when

00:35:37.860 i saw the ballot paper it was like it was nigel reform and then three or four independence comedy

00:35:44.080 novelty independence and then lawrence fox it said reclaim party so um okay uh needlessly splitting

00:35:52.900 the bin face vote in my opinion but okay um nige votes a two fox race as big parties a swerve 0.87

00:36:02.240 contest wildlife fighter and controversial actor will take on farage all right um little harry's 0.87

00:36:08.700 just uh looking for that at the moment um so i mean i think it's it was quite an astute move

00:36:15.320 by the other parties main big parties to to sort of refuse to stand in this reform nigel and reform

00:36:24.180 and their orbiters are saying oh they're scared of nigel i don't think that's what's going on at all 0.68

00:36:27.640 I think it's actually quite an astute move. 1.00

00:36:29.460 I remember predicting it.

00:36:30.960 I remember putting it online on your Twitter.

00:36:33.600 I remember predicting this would happen.

00:36:35.040 It's what happened with David Davis.

00:36:36.980 So David Davis stood down over some free speech issue

00:36:40.240 or something like this.

00:36:41.740 And even the Conservative Party, oh, for God's sake, 1.00

00:36:44.720 what a stupid thing to do. 1.00

00:36:46.620 And none of the, in order to delegitimize it, 1.00

00:36:49.640 if none of the, when Nigel Farage has said earlier,

00:36:52.340 they're running scared, they're not running scared.

00:36:54.080 What they're saying is, is this is a complete waste of time. 1.00

00:36:57.080 this is pointless this is this is stupid and so we're not even going to dignify it with contesting 0.99

00:37:02.260 it and that does undermine it as a stunt it just makes it look ridiculous and that's what they 0.99

00:37:06.620 managed to do with david davis they it it just made him look ridiculous it made the whole thing

00:37:11.660 look ridiculous and so i thought they might do this and i was i was correct i think it's the

00:37:17.120 sensible thing to do um i suppose another way of interpreting it is the one seat which the 0.84

00:37:22.700 mainstream parties don't contest is the speaker's seat they don't contest mr speaker that's right

00:37:28.900 yeah it's it's only ever obscure parties that contest mr speaker and so the attitude is well

00:37:34.660 we we support mr speaker we want mr speaker in parliament he's our speaker so maybe you could

00:37:39.640 say we want nigel in parliament uh because he uh is an establishment shill and so we want him in

00:37:46.960 parliament maybe you can interpret it like that yeah not try and remove him we want him there

00:37:51.780 it's useful for us that he is there but i think that's too far yeah it's a bit too far but it's

00:37:56.800 an interesting angle an interesting take anyway that he's our next hand-picked globalist

00:38:00.840 containment machine we actually want him in parliament yeah um okay so we've got here the

00:38:05.640 list of all the candidates actually a few more than i thought i thought the ballot had been

00:38:08.840 closed there was only about five but according to this article there's more so there's um

00:38:13.200 some nobody for the forward party can't be in face himself of course piers corbyn as an

00:38:19.540 independent i didn't see that one that must have been let's hope he is elected that would be that's

00:38:25.100 um nige of course lawrence fox for reclaim is for reclaim uh a one two another couple of nobody

00:38:33.280 independence um balanced britain party not even heard of of a clairvoyant she's a clairvoyant

00:38:41.580 oh okay but then won't she if that's the case then she should know that she'll lose and it's

00:38:46.560 pointless yeah yeah can she not see into the future that it's uh oh kaya stevens the british

00:38:51.780 democrats kai stevens okay i've met him have you met him yeah he's all right he's all right i think

00:39:01.400 i think a lot of people think he's too far right but i've spoke to him a couple times seen perfectly

00:39:05.220 reasonable young man so as i said i don't know a great deal about his history i think but i think

00:39:09.640 he was in the uh wasn't he in the um homeland okay and some other independent i've never heard

00:39:14.460 of so okay so realistically realistically lawrence fox piers corbin and count binface

00:39:24.620 i feel like piers and uh lawrence are splitting the binface vote there what do you think

00:39:31.420 yeah i think i i don't know if lawrence is splitting the binface vote but uh

00:39:36.680 uh well yeah i suppose he is yeah um so i oh i i would i would like it only because i've

00:39:44.180 interviewed him on the jolly heretic i i would like and i like did you yeah pierce corbyn he's

00:39:49.520 a lot and because lawrence rocks i've asked a number of times to come on and then he's cancelled

00:39:54.320 at the last minute so for that reason alone i would i would like pierce corbyn to be elected

00:39:59.880 i think it would be brilliant if pierce corbyn was elected the corbyn brothers in parliament

00:40:05.000 together as

00:40:06.740 as as as as

00:40:08.940 independents I think it would be but this is

00:40:10.980 the cleverer Corbyn you know the Corbyn that can actually

00:40:12.940 do maths right

00:40:14.340 so I

00:40:16.680 think that would be great I did

00:40:18.800 I yeah I think it's I pick

00:40:20.840 peers if I was if I was in Clackham but no

00:40:22.900 I think you're right I think it'll be Nigel

00:40:24.660 in face it's very hard to say

00:40:26.240 yeah I mean Nigel's

00:40:29.180 Nigel's majority

00:40:30.840 I think is 8400

00:40:32.480 which is decent that's solid

00:40:34.720 that's healthy but it's not it's not undefeatable really especially if a big chunk of people that

00:40:42.380 didn't even bother turning out this time do a big chunk of reform people think it's a slam dunk so

00:40:46.940 they don't bother turning out there's a there's a big anti anti reform anti yeah i can see that

00:40:54.460 happening but it's it's it turn out 58 the turnout was 58 that was in the election um yeah i think a 0.97

00:41:03.300 lot of people will just think this is pointless what's the point this is stupid points yeah yeah

00:41:09.180 by election i'm not going to bother to vote so whereas in the 2024 election there was probably 0.86

00:41:14.340 um because it was farage and because it was a new thing and and it was a general election the

00:41:18.980 turnout was 58 so let's assume in general the turnout in by elections is low so let's assume

00:41:24.540 the turnout is 50 or or fewer than that then then he could be in trouble well i reported on the

00:41:32.440 breakfast with bow the bow show yesterday that i was extremely surprised i don't know what the

00:41:36.140 odds are today but yesterday you could get odds as low as seven to one even five to one

00:41:41.560 for bin face i would have thought it would be a thousand to one fifty thousand to one but it's not

00:41:49.340 it's not it's like it's more like six seven to one and that makes me think that there are there

00:41:55.020 are dark forces you know there are there are establishment forces that are promoting bin face

00:42:00.780 that they've they've realized he's he's their guy he's he's the kind of guy they can rely upon

00:42:06.180 and can control and and and so on and i think that the because apparently i was in that um

00:42:12.620 it the monster raving loony party has basically just become left wing so it's it's no longer

00:42:18.280 funny uh so he's the new monster raving loony party but that they can they can control him

00:42:25.300 and so I can see

00:42:26.820 I can see this happen

00:42:28.420 it would be so humiliating for Nigel Farage

00:42:31.540 oh yeah it would be over

00:42:32.720 his career would be over

00:42:34.420 in a way though if it was an actual

00:42:37.440 nutter candidate that was just

00:42:39.220 you know screaming Lord Such or somebody

00:42:41.240 like that then that would be more

00:42:43.240 humiliating than what we're actually 0.88

00:42:45.100 they're doing unmasking Count Binface 0.96

00:42:47.220 as this actually reasonably intelligent

00:42:49.280 guy that's been to Oxford, Cambridge

00:42:51.100 and as a

00:42:53.220 writer and all this kind of thing

00:42:54.760 they're unmasking him as a actually quite a sensible person as comedians often are intelligent

00:43:00.300 people because you've got to be able to notice details and make unusual connections and so forth

00:43:05.180 and that militates in favor of intelligence so they're unmasking him as an intelligent deep down

00:43:10.280 an intelligent person who within the back the borders of left-wing thought at least is quite

00:43:14.880 reasonable and so that makes it less humiliating in reality he's being defeated essentially by a

00:43:20.900 kind of new labor type so i i wonder about what they're thinking they can't have it both ways

00:43:27.720 either he's being defeated by essentially the monster raving loony party which is humiliating

00:43:32.620 or he or this guy's a reasonable chap who is intelligent and but left but left wing and is

00:43:39.080 a little bit establishment which is it no good point good point okay let's move on a little bit

00:43:45.500 The Financial Times, there's a picture there of the funeral of the assassinated Ayatollah Khomeini

00:43:54.260 And the war's back on with Iran

00:43:57.700 Are you getting any sort of Iran war fatigue?

00:44:01.560 Do you follow it much? Do you not care? 0.85

00:44:03.460 What's your thoughts on feelings?

00:44:04.460 I am fatigued, I'm sorry to say it to anyone

00:44:08.060 I'm sure if you're going through it, I know I have viewers in Iran

00:44:10.740 um and i'm i'm sorry uh for example my friend ali my my man in iran uh and i i'm sure it's awful

00:44:18.660 and i hope you're okay and i hope your family and your friends are okay but i'm so i'm bored of this

00:44:24.800 i have that feeling as a child the two things that used to be on the news all the time that i

00:44:29.940 was so bored of them as a child was northern ireland and princess diana and then brilliantly

00:44:37.300 in about 1997 both of those things stopped being on the news and that that made me happy

00:44:43.620 and now um i was i wasn't happy that philistana had died or whatever but i was having those things

00:44:50.520 no longer on the news all the time and now and now it's now it's iran and ukraine ukraine we've

00:44:57.020 had four years of this and israel it's been three years of it and and and now iran and i'm just

00:45:05.100 hearing about them

00:45:06.420 just sort themselves out

00:45:08.380 like at school

00:45:12.220 when there were two kids that weren't getting on 1.00

00:45:14.560 and the dinner lady would 1.00

00:45:16.500 just sort it out 1.00

00:45:18.400 stop fighting with each other

00:45:20.540 and sort it out

00:45:22.140 or I'll tell the teacher

00:45:24.940 Bonnie Tyler has also died

00:45:29.020 the singer

00:45:29.880 if anyone's younger people's image

00:45:32.400 we've never even heard of her

00:45:33.260 Okay, the other story here, police, not Parliament internal thing, the police, the Met Police, London Police, investigate donations from mother of Farage ally to reform.

00:45:44.220 So that's the story.

00:45:44.720 Do you remember George Cotterell, posh George, he gave reform and Nigel a little bit of money and let Nigel stay in one of his flats a couple of times.

00:45:53.100 Now it's emerging that his mum, George Cottrell's mum, who is, I think, an actual aristocrat,

00:46:00.500 and in fact, I've heard a report this morning that she dated King Charles back before the Diana years,

00:46:06.520 back in the 70s or whatever, anyway, she gave two donations of quarter of a million apiece,

00:46:11.580 obviously adding up to half a million, to the party, and that the police themselves are investigating that now.

00:46:16.420 And also there's a story yesterday, the Robert Jenricks, it's a bit much more of an older story,

00:46:20.260 It was when he was running to be the leader of the Conservative Party

00:46:22.580 That he received a donation of £100,000

00:46:24.860 And they think maybe as much as £35,000 or £37,000

00:46:28.060 Of that may have been dodgy

00:46:30.120 And anyway, it just seems that

00:46:32.300 Again, the vector of attack at reform

00:46:35.240 To do with their finances

00:46:37.200 Is just, they're bombarding them from many different angles

00:46:41.120 All at once

00:46:42.200 And this is just the newest one

00:46:44.000 The Post George's mum gave them half a million quid

00:46:46.640 And the actual police were investigating that

00:46:50.260 Yeah, it was what Dominic Cummings predicted, wasn't it? It's an odd contradiction, because on the one hand, you have this idea that reform have increasingly become part of the establishment, really, and have become the new Conservative Party.

00:47:06.600 And so that's why you've got all of these former Conservative MPs and former Conservative ministers jumping ship to reform, because that's the way the wind is blowing and it's the de facto new Conservative Party.

00:47:16.020 And then you could argue that the media give them a relatively easy ride and they're a shoo-in for becoming the dominant party after the next election.

00:47:27.180 But that doesn't matter to the establishment because they kind of control them.

00:47:30.720 But then on the other hand, it was Dominic Cummings saying if it actually looks like they're going to win power, then the establishment will throw everything at them.

00:47:39.840 They will leak Michael Farage's medical records.

00:47:42.520 They will do absolutely anything.

00:47:44.260 and equally uh one wonders yes they're showing they're highlighting evidence of corruption in

00:47:51.820 the in in reform uh fine but could it be that there is that kind of corruption in the conservative

00:47:59.540 party and in and in labor but that's not highlighted they just don't they just over

00:48:04.040 they just overlook that they don't bother with that yeah but if you're a serious threat to them

00:48:10.080 which then this implies that they are a serious threat to them then then then you you do highlight

00:48:15.220 it so i'm not sure because on the one hand you have that you have people quite vocally saying

00:48:20.620 oh well reform basically the establishment now and restore is the up and coming group and whatever

00:48:25.760 if that was true then covings would be wrong and they wouldn't behave like this so this implies

00:48:32.220 that there is something genuinely threatening to certain interests about the reform party

00:48:36.160 Yeah, it's interesting to say it

00:48:38.160 Because it's exactly how I feel

00:48:39.180 It's sort of two things going on at once

00:48:40.960 As you say, reform in all sorts of ways

00:48:42.980 Nigel particularly

00:48:43.740 And reform in all sorts of ways

00:48:44.940 Are the new establishment

00:48:47.100 In loads of ways

00:48:48.480 The way a lot of the mainstream media

00:48:50.580 And in all sorts of corners of society

00:48:53.560 Are being accepted

00:48:55.240 Being allowed to be the new norm

00:48:57.160 But at the same time

00:48:59.120 As you say, other elements

00:49:01.040 Want to destroy

00:49:03.600 it will stop at nothing to destroy them absolutely nothing and do we have a sorry i was just gonna

00:49:12.080 say and and the point you made absolutely that it's so patently unfair it's just unfair i mean

00:49:20.440 the world is unfair what you're gonna do but that they will attack and investigate reform this hard

00:49:26.040 to this degree and just turn a blind eye to exactly the same sort of stuff going on in the

00:49:30.740 other parties exactly the same stuff precisely but so do we have a kind of weird divided

00:49:36.640 establishment where there are remnants of the old sort of remnants of the conservative type

00:49:41.640 establishment that are there that want to promote reform but yet you still have the kind of woke

00:49:46.100 woke establishment that's overtaken it's taken over things over the last 30 years that

00:49:50.720 that will let will let reform get so big and so important but not too important like it's it's

00:49:57.340 It cannot be that people like that who they don't trust

00:50:00.940 and don't feel they have control over a lot of the members,

00:50:04.040 a lot of the lesser reform.

00:50:05.460 Because once reform gets elected with a large number of MPs,

00:50:08.560 then those MPs, a lot of those will be to the right of the leadership.

00:50:13.160 In general, in a party, it's a right-wing party,

00:50:15.820 the people to the right of the leadership,

00:50:16.960 it's a left-wing party to the left of the leadership.

00:50:19.520 Are these people that now it's actually looking like it's going to happen,

00:50:23.400 they're actually quite frightening and they can't have this.

00:50:26.040 I mean, they can have people like Sweller-Braveman or whatever, they're on site, they understand what they're dealing with, they're sensible people, you know, but there will be a lot of less sensible people that will come in with reform as MPs, as just MPs, you know, the ad-widdicums, as it were, of the reform party, and that's a problem.

00:50:45.120 there's a little story here but burnham apologizes for labor's gaza stance it's just a little story

00:50:51.220 saying that andy burnham if anything is more pro-palestine and less pro-israel uh than than

00:50:57.960 starmer and the late and the labor party have been so far in this government uh i don't know

00:51:02.960 if that's a surprise to you or not but there you go you're saying you'd like to he's going to make

00:51:09.300 more noises about the illegal occupation of the of the of the west bank stuff like that

00:51:16.240 okay well maybe we'll just move on yeah yeah come on sorry no go on sorry no carry on no no i had

00:51:23.460 nothing particularly intelligent to say about no me neither all right pakistan the times the

00:51:27.500 venerable times pakistan refuses to take back leader of rochdale grooming gangs and they've

00:51:31.560 just said now pakistan have just said they just flatly refuse they say that guy he renounced his

00:51:36.900 pakistani citizenship back in the 70s he left pakistan before 1971 so he's just simply effectively

00:51:43.400 nothing to do with them and there is no question of them taking him back there you go there the

00:51:48.500 quote from a pakistani official there is no question of pakistan accepting his return 0.89

00:51:53.980 okay well then there should be sanctions on pakistan um pakistan should be banned

00:52:00.400 or pakistan immigration should be banned and we should start very specifically returning

00:52:06.320 pakistanis who are citizens of pakistan uh to to pakistan until they change their mind and do as

00:52:13.780 they're told absolutely or i mean you want to be avant-garde about it we should just fly a plane 0.98

00:52:20.260 to pakistan stick a parachute on him and chuck him out of the plane over over pakistan oh yeah 0.99

00:52:26.580 that would be considered a violation of his human rights which matters even though he's a mass rapist 0.94

00:52:30.740 but the idea that they can a country to which we give aid um and and whose immigrants from 0.77

00:52:38.520 from poor areas of backstart who's basically whose worst people britain accepts into the country 0.79

00:52:44.160 every year large numbers and they can just say no we're not taking back one person

00:52:48.740 is absolutely ridiculous i mean all they have to do is take him back and still and hopefully

00:52:54.340 stick him in one of their jails i'm sure their jails aren't very nice yeah or actually get some 0.77

00:52:59.920 sort of sharia punishment for his crimes okay uh met inquiry into half a million pound donation 0.98

00:53:04.840 to reform there's uh happy feet king charles again so what is this buffoon this half german 0.97

00:53:12.440 half greek buffoon uh are we supposed to forget that your brother is a basically an unconvicted 0.99

00:53:19.440 sex criminal are we supposed to we're supposed to forget that i mean we're supposed to forget 0.99

00:53:23.240 you were very very very good friends with

00:53:25.360 Jimmy Savile

00:53:26.080 I don't like this king

00:53:29.300 I'm lukewarm

00:53:31.620 monarchist

00:53:33.380 at best but I don't

00:53:35.440 I really don't like this guy

00:53:36.820 I really don't like him

00:53:38.100 he said recently that some proposal

00:53:41.380 that he would, part of his

00:53:43.260 remit would be to defend

00:53:45.040 multicultural Britain or something like that 0.51

00:53:47.080 so that's just treason

00:53:49.440 that's completely unacceptable

00:53:50.560 so i'm afraid he's he's gradually turning me into a jacobite and i i don't know who the current

00:53:57.960 jacobite king is that the rightful jacobite king of england i don't know who it is like

00:54:03.120 is it the arch is it the emperor of austria or some guy i don't know who it is but like i say

00:54:07.960 we go back to the house of wessex uh well yeah that would be a bit difficult so but what you're

00:54:13.700 saying is what the the descendant of harold of harold king harold's son i think even further

00:54:18.900 They go back to Alfred.

00:54:20.240 Go back to whatever living descendant we've got for Alfred.

00:54:22.900 That's the same house.

00:54:26.740 Well, well, in those days...

00:54:29.280 Godwin and Godwinson...

00:54:31.380 Oh, yeah, he kind of took over, didn't he?

00:54:32.620 Well, I don't know.

00:54:33.460 You'd have to trace it.

00:54:34.460 I know that I'm descended from Alfred the Great.

00:54:37.240 Well, so are you.

00:54:37.860 I mean, everybody...

00:54:38.600 Well, yeah, nearly everyone in England, in a way.

00:54:40.540 Thousands and thousands of people.

00:54:41.800 From Edward III.

00:54:43.940 But I can actually prove it.

00:54:46.920 So I'll chuck my hat in the ring

00:54:49.560 And I would be a very based king

00:54:56.520 It's funny when people say

00:54:57.920 Who would be the living descendant of

00:55:00.320 A living descendant of, say, the Plantagenes

00:55:02.380 Or the House of Stewart

00:55:03.220 Or the House of Wessex

00:55:04.780 It's like, well, that will be thousands and thousands

00:55:06.720 And thousands of people

00:55:07.500 That's how that works

00:55:08.640 Everybody 0.94

00:55:09.080 Every English person is descendant 1.00

00:55:12.540 Remember the third 1.00

00:55:13.340 Every single one

00:55:14.520 Somewhere along the line

00:55:15.780 Because that's how it works

00:55:16.760 that wealth high status predicted how many surviving offspring you had and then that carries

00:55:22.680 on across generations until about 1800 when it starts to reverse because of the industrial

00:55:26.980 revolution and the result the result is that everybody in england has decided to remember the

00:55:31.040 third everybody english in england has decided to remember the third so sorry sorry sorry cut you

00:55:37.460 off go ahead sorry no no i had nothing further to say other than my claim and indeed your claim 0.52

00:55:42.540 bow to um to being the king um and not messing about with any woke rubbish if we were the king

00:55:48.580 the rightful king bring back the pillory that's what i say

00:55:51.920 yeah the pillory and the stocks yeah yeah nail them up that's what i say okay and now what about

00:56:00.280 our coup d'etat the bloodless coup d'etat which is now a fait accompli messiah without a mandate

00:56:05.500 what a shameless stitch up burnham will be pm after 322 labour mps back him but voters still

00:56:12.080 know nothing about what he stands for. With that

00:56:14.120 number of Labour MPs backing him,

00:56:16.040 he doesn't even need to go to

00:56:18.060 the unions

00:56:20.100 or any other affiliates of the Labour Party

00:56:22.100 or the members or anything. That's it.

00:56:23.980 That's it. He's Prime Minister now. He's going to be

00:56:26.060 Prime Minister on the 20th. Slam dunk.

00:56:28.080 Done. Yes.

00:56:30.100 I don't know why they're saying

00:56:31.380 voters know nothing about what he stands for.

00:56:33.840 Which newspaper is this? Is it

00:56:35.920 the Mail? Daily Mail. Right.

00:56:37.860 Why don't they just report what he stands for?

00:56:39.940 this idea that voters don't know what he stands for they don't know what he stands for because

00:56:44.700 they the newspapers haven't been going on and on about him for years and years and years because

00:56:48.940 he hasn't been a member of parliament he's been the mayor of greater manchester so it's not

00:56:53.820 difficult i've just done a video on youtube on what he stands for so this guy is extremely left

00:57:00.120 wing that's that's what he on everything whether it's trans you know he's pro trans he's pro mass

00:57:05.820 immigration he's pro he's pro everything that we don't like that's what he is that he stands for

00:57:11.600 but for some reason because the country as it seems to be in in chaos and there's this idea

00:57:17.000 of broken britain and all this um there seems to be this even among the left there seems to be this

00:57:22.340 wishful thinking that burnham will be a kind of messiah figure who will will rescue things and so

00:57:28.260 let's just allow allow him to do that let's not really think about it let's not really question

00:57:32.220 Let's just hope that he's a jolly good chap because he's run Manchester and it'll be OK.

00:57:38.060 Right. Well, he's run Manchester into the ground, hasn't he?

00:57:40.340 I mean, Manchester is awful.

00:57:42.340 It's not as though Manchester has got better since he became mayor.

00:57:46.420 If you go to Piccadilly Gardens or Crackadilly Gardens, as Charlie Veitch calls it,

00:57:50.520 who has been banned from Manchester because of some alleged crime,

00:57:55.160 then you can see what a terrible, terrible state Manchester is in.

00:57:59.700 But that's what he's about.

00:58:01.800 he's about manchester a place which is dysfunctional a place which every time i've

00:58:05.920 been there which i've been there about five times i've been offered drugs almost immediately

00:58:09.240 and gone out of the station excuse me do you want to buy some hashish it's immediate

00:58:15.540 so that's the state of manchester his views are just typical leftist labor views taking the knee

00:58:23.880 and sexuality for immigration that's what he stands for but it's as though that the establishment

00:58:29.040 media want us to ignore that because there needs to be something to unite people and make people

00:58:33.400 feel that surely it can be better than this well it's not going to be better than this he's going

00:58:37.460 to have a honeymoon period like all prime ministers do and then there'll be some incident and he won't

00:58:43.560 be able to cope with it i wouldn't be surprised on our current form i wouldn't be surprised if he's

00:58:49.320 if he lasts maybe a year and then we'll lose faith in him and they'll try something else

00:58:54.700 I think they'll just trust him in some way. Yeah, his politics are very, very sort of student politics, wishy-washy, crappy pinko throwback socialist crap, isn't it? 0.99

00:59:08.660 I think there's two things going on here, though, Ed. I think one, on one level, we know who Andy Burnham is and what he thinks. 0.96

00:59:14.700 He's been around since the beginning, since the Blair years

00:59:18.400 He was in government, senior government, Secretary of State in the Brown years

00:59:22.580 He's been on record, on camera, for hours and hours and hours and hours

00:59:27.300 Talking about what he thinks about things

00:59:28.780 Okay, there's that

00:59:29.560 But then though, there is sort of a fully published, fleshed out manifesto

00:59:36.360 Or at least a series of policy papers

00:59:39.740 We haven't got anything of that

00:59:41.920 There is really nothing on that

00:59:43.460 We don't know exactly to the detail what his agenda for government will be.

00:59:49.080 That's fair to say, isn't it?

00:59:51.040 I suppose that is fair to say, but presumably that's fair to say whenever there's somebody that emerges as prime minister that hasn't been.

01:00:01.380 I mean, Gordon Brown is an exception because he was chancellor.

01:00:05.080 He was very much part of what was going on.

01:00:07.880 So I think it's true. What is true is I don't think there have been many cases of someone who hasn't been in government for a very long time, suddenly emerging as prime, suddenly emerging as as as prime minister that that's not he hasn't even been MP.

01:00:23.340 he's been just out of government but that that's something that's relatively new in in in the uk

01:00:28.680 when you had alec douglas hume emerging as leader of the conservative party in 1963 but he was

01:00:35.400 already i don't know what position he was was he foreign secretary or something like this i can't

01:00:38.780 remember and he'd been in parliament or in the law in um in parliament in the lords for a very

01:00:44.160 long time and then he suddenly emerged and had to be had to be elected but i don't this is this

01:00:50.200 is relatively new that he's an outsider he's been out of parliament for what 10 years

01:00:53.780 more than that is it i don't remember and he was briefly in the shadow cabinet of jeremy corbyn

01:01:00.380 and then stood down and then and then he comes back this is this is new yeah because there hasn't

01:01:05.100 been because he hasn't been in the shadow cabinet there hasn't been any scrutiny of him i mean

01:01:09.300 winston churchill is maybe an example in so much as he when did he leave government was it something

01:01:14.180 like 1930 and then he wasn't back in until he was was he was about seven or eight years

01:01:23.380 i was gonna say he was in and out of government from like 1910 he's briefly the home secretary

01:01:27.820 in like 1910 he was in and out of government a number of times wasn't he four five times

01:01:32.500 something like that so well there was this period there was this period in the wilderness prior to

01:01:36.420 well right that was nine years where he wasn't a cabinet minister uh and he wasn't in government

01:01:42.200 at all and then he was brought back in as first of all the admiralty and then because he'd been

01:01:47.220 the person that had been suggesting that there should be a war and highlighting rearmament of

01:01:52.920 germany and so forth then he seemed the ideal man to become prime minister so there were nine years

01:01:58.000 where he was considered a busted flush basically the wilderness years yeah okay let's quickly move

01:02:02.460 on the sun that's just pure slop something about football ban out of order that's a pun on bang

01:02:07.140 out of order surely let's not let's not even bother talking about it chris witty uk's 1.6

01:02:12.080 million weight loss jab users told to start strength training i can't believe that chris

01:02:16.120 witty is still like the most senior medical officer in britain but he's saying if you take

01:02:22.180 these weight loss pills you've actually got to do a bit of resistance training otherwise you're just

01:02:26.160 going to be like made out of spaghetti you're just going to fall apart or whatever but anyway

01:02:29.500 don't really care about that particularly and the last one here the star pure slop um was it mick

01:02:34.620 Jaggers gonna go to Miami to cheer on the England team you Kane always get what you want Harry Kane 0.52

01:02:39.900 the football player you Kane always get what you want yeah ridiculous okay okay sorry all right 0.58

01:02:46.420 we usually do our poll at this point of the uh show actually Harry you'll have to bring up the

01:02:50.920 screen because we've got all sorts of things going on it's a bit cluttered if you can just bring that

01:02:54.600 for me um I think we asked about Rupert I think I just put it to you guys um yeah we said uh oh

01:03:02.500 nearly 1800 votes there we said with regard to the Dunblane massacre did Rupert Lowe merely

01:03:08.480 misspeak and the eyes have it 83% of you say yes you merely misspoke I don't know what the other

01:03:14.180 17% are thinking but there you go there you go all right um because it's already gone nine I think

01:03:24.160 we'll move on to on this day in history and I asked uh the good professor earlier if he would

01:03:29.100 stick around for that and he said he was happy to so we'll have a quick look on this day down

01:03:32.760 through the centuries the 10th of July what happened of note first one Hitler will have

01:03:36.940 to break us or lose the war 1940 Battle of Britain begins as Nazi forces attack shipping

01:03:43.000 convoys in the English Channel look there's Winnie there standing next to a bombed out building

01:03:48.080 your thoughts on how Winston Churchill handled the Battle of France and then Dunkirk and the

01:03:56.580 battle of britain um i i've given my views on this in a book i wrote years ago called churchill

01:04:04.660 said master the sadist that nearly saved the british empire i think it was completely unnecessary

01:04:08.880 as far as i can see i i can comment on dunkirk it seems that the nazi forces could have completely

01:04:16.980 annihilated the british at dunkirk but they didn't and i assume that they didn't because

01:04:22.880 that they wanted to be able to sue for an honourable peace.

01:04:27.540 So they wanted it to be reasonable and to come across as reasonable.

01:04:30.960 So then there could be an honourable and simple peace,

01:04:33.800 which wouldn't happen if they'd annihilated them.

01:04:35.580 Then the British would have had to have reacted or whatever.

01:04:39.880 So I think Dunkirk was permitted.

01:04:42.700 We were allowed to escape Dunkirk because,

01:04:46.460 and this is evidence, this is definitely true, 0.97

01:04:49.560 Hitler wanted to sue for peace.

01:04:51.000 He didn't want war with Britain. 0.70

01:04:52.420 yes he wanted to to completely overturn versailles and get back the parts of germany that have been

01:04:58.600 taken away and get back more as well fine he wanted to have a free hand in the east he didn't

01:05:02.740 want war with britain he didn't see them as an enemy and he states this directly even in mine 0.62

01:05:07.280 camp it's like the new labor stating openly we want to flood britain with immigrants and change 0.96

01:05:12.940 the nature of society that's what he did well he basically stated what he wanted to do and that's 0.54

01:05:18.320 what he did and so i think we shouldn't have had dunkirk i think we had it because churchill was a

01:05:23.600 warmonger churchill wanted there to be a war with germany and he prosecuted the case for war for

01:05:32.600 years before world war ii and they used the excuse of a stray bomb when they were bombing

01:05:39.020 factories or whatever it was in london and a stray bomb fell on a house in rollahide

01:05:45.760 and he used that as an excuse to start bombing civilians in germany and then then then the war

01:05:51.920 really really really took off so i think we did we needn't have had this and so he's he's uh he's

01:05:59.120 he's he should have a much less positive reputation than he does oh yeah he he saved

01:06:03.160 britain he he won the war yeah war which he essentially got britain into in the first place

01:06:07.000 the accounts of uh the luftwaffer coming over and churchill shaking his fist at them

01:06:14.000 because he wants them to bomb

01:06:16.640 civilian targets in Britain

01:06:19.640 so that he's got the political angle

01:06:23.760 that he can...

01:06:25.260 He looked to the skies and shouted,

01:06:27.280 when will you come?

01:06:28.800 But the problem is that the only source for that

01:06:31.200 is David Irving in his book, Churchill's War.

01:06:35.000 And he seems to me to have been a little bit

01:06:38.760 economical with the actuality

01:06:40.700 as indeed the Irving v Lipstadt trial

01:06:44.060 demonstrated in the year 2000.

01:06:45.980 So I'm not sure that I would use that example.

01:06:50.600 But certainly there is good evidence

01:06:55.760 that he was being funded by a group of people

01:06:57.580 that were pro-war, the focus.

01:06:59.280 And he was very gung-ho about war himself

01:07:06.080 even before World War II,

01:07:07.540 wanting to be wherever there was a war unnecessarily. 0.98

01:07:10.700 Oh yeah, well that's certainly true, isn't it? 0.96

01:07:13.100 If you ever read The River War,

01:07:15.200 where he was fighting in the reconquest of the Sudan,

01:07:18.200 he loved war, he was very proud that he personally ran down

01:07:22.300 a few of the Mardi army there.

01:07:24.700 Okay, let's move on from that,

01:07:25.700 because we could just talk about that for hours and hours and hours.

01:07:27.200 In fact, let's do that one day, Ed.

01:07:29.200 In fact, we've got a bit of,

01:07:30.200 one of the first times I spoke to you,

01:07:31.900 I think it might have been the first time I ever spoke to you,

01:07:33.800 on Lotus Eaters, back in our old studio,

01:07:35.700 it's got to be knocking five years ago now,

01:07:37.500 we talked about Churchill, didn't we?

01:07:38.700 We talked about your book,

01:07:40.700 about yes well the first time was on your own channel wasn't it your own that's right that

01:07:44.940 predates that that's right yeah you bro channel so it would have been about 2019 or i can't remember

01:07:49.340 exactly what uh uh and um yeah on the on church said master yeah are you there

01:07:57.740 and uh do the the that camera

01:08:02.460 on history bro long form me and ed talking about churchill there for free

01:08:06.060 history broke okay all right the next thing there the sinking of the rainbow warrior the original

01:08:11.660 rainbow warrior the in 1985 the french foreign intelligence agents blew up the greenpeace

01:08:17.580 flagship rainbow warrior in auckland harbour in new zealand to prevent it from interfering with

01:08:22.120 french nuclear tests in the south pacific dutch photographer fernando pierre is killed so

01:08:28.420 there's still a rainbow warrior greenpeace ship to this day but back in the 80s they had one and

01:08:34.820 yeah like french spies they're like actual frogmen you know under the water put limpet mines on the

01:08:42.160 side of the rainbow warrior blew it up one guy died as it says there and in the end in the end

01:08:46.560 the french denied any wrong it was anything to do with them in the end it was just shown that it

01:08:50.280 definitely definitely was they had to issue an apology and the defense secretary the french

01:08:54.180 defense secretary had to quit and uh give greenpeace eight million pounds

01:08:58.740 with which they bought a new bigger rainbow warrior um do you know anything about that ed

01:09:05.740 are you remotely interested in that oh okay fair enough fair enough on this day 1991 boris yeltsin

01:09:12.980 is sworn in as the first elected president of the russian federation not the soviet union so there

01:09:18.440 we go the boris yeltsin do you know much are you interested at all in the figure of yeltsin ed

01:09:23.080 well yeah it's it's it does interest me that they this guy was very charismatic he um was a

01:09:31.360 if the communists were essentially the conservatives of their time because they

01:09:34.640 wanted to keep things the same then uh he was the he was the liberal and he just took on a weakened

01:09:42.700 Gorbachev of course there was that coup where Gorbachev was in charge of the Soviet Union

01:09:47.580 but he was in charge of russia and and satellites and and he just took power and he was a drunk

01:09:57.240 of the brilliant stories of him being found naked wandering around pennsylvania avenue trying to

01:10:03.160 find a pizza uh and all of this all of this sort of thing it's just total drunk

01:10:10.720 and but there was that brief period between 91 and the collapse of russia and chaos and so forth

01:10:20.140 and the year 2000 or the last the 31st of december 1999 where russia was almost a kind of democracy

01:10:28.200 uh and and it was okay it was highly corrupt or whatever but it was at least trying to be a

01:10:34.160 a western democracy in the wake of this chaos where it was all it could see itself to do

01:10:38.820 And then it rebuilt itself as a more empire minded autocracy under Vladimir Putin.

01:10:45.180 But there was that brief period. And I wonder, we could we should have taken advantage of that more.

01:10:49.440 The West were naive. We didn't we didn't understand that Russia would revert to type.

01:10:54.020 I mean, in its whole history, there had been this brief period

01:10:57.260 where it was a democracy in what?

01:11:00.720 19, when?

01:11:04.560 19, sort of the mid-1900s after the czar went.

01:11:09.780 There was this brief period where it was kind of a democracy.

01:11:12.100 The Kerensky government in the summer of 1917, you mean?

01:11:16.000 The Kerensky government, yeah, that was its democracy.

01:11:18.720 and so the the the idea that we wouldn't uh it wouldn't return to type was very naive we could

01:11:26.520 have taken full advantage of it and complete and sort of sort of crushed it but we didn't

01:11:31.000 and i was thinking about this two days two days ago because me and my wife and some we went to

01:11:35.780 sweden because uh the the swedish crew is doing very badly against the euro at the moment so it's

01:11:41.160 very cheap in sweden so we went over to sweden and went to ikea and uh went to went to the various

01:11:47.680 places there to get cheap stuff and came back i thought wouldn't it be cool if you could just go

01:11:52.560 to russia you could just drive from finland to russia and get cheap stuff and come back well

01:11:56.500 of course you can't and you can't at all since the war started although whatever you want to call it

01:12:01.420 the special operation in 2022 you can't at all you could before then but you had to get a visa

01:12:07.740 and stuff and that was complicated and expensive my sister-in-law used to go there to get petrol

01:12:12.080 she's got a visa

01:12:14.180 that was worth doing

01:12:15.800 because she lives quite near the Russian border

01:12:17.780 to drive to Russia, go to the first petrol station

01:12:21.000 fill up and come back

01:12:22.180 but wouldn't we have that period

01:12:24.760 where we could have really just taken control

01:12:27.080 of Russia and we didn't

01:12:29.180 well they did still have

01:12:31.220 the biggest stockpile of nuclear weapons

01:12:33.200 in the world though

01:12:33.960 that was a worry

01:12:36.460 they were desperately desperately poor

01:12:39.040 and the economy

01:12:41.080 was in absolute free fall so we could have we could have negotiated i wonder how much we could

01:12:45.460 have negotiated you know them getting rid of these nuclear weapons or so for anyone who might not know

01:12:50.100 just to let everyone out there know probably most people do know about professor dutton but you're

01:12:53.620 actually in finland you live in finland right and so you're actually quite near russia very quite

01:12:58.140 near russia and i've asked you this before but i'll ask you because i'd like to get uh you uh on

01:13:02.720 the on the bow show talking about it do people the average people in finland genuinely fear that

01:13:09.040 Mr. Putin is going to start rolling tank divisions and infantry battalions into Finland at any

01:13:14.260 moment? I think there's probably an element among old people that might fear that yes because there 0.99

01:13:20.760 was a long period of time known as Finlandization between the end of the war and well 1991 where

01:13:30.380 Finland was very very very Finland had just lost 10 percent of its territory to the Soviet Union

01:13:36.260 It lost Corellia and it lost part of Lapland in the Winter War and the continuation of 1939 to 1944.

01:13:44.420 And eventually you had this really a kind of autocracy, really, or not a dictatorship.

01:13:49.780 Exactly. That's not that's an exaggeration, but a kind of semi dictatorship.

01:13:52.820 This guy called Ur-Huk-Ekkenen, who was president from 1956 to 1982.

01:13:57.920 And when the president was also important, the president now is more of a figurehead.

01:14:02.040 The president then was actually running the country.

01:14:03.700 and he was elected again and again and again and again and again and his policy was basically that

01:14:09.840 i am the only person that can successfully negotiate with russia and ensure that russia

01:14:14.040 doesn't or the soviet union doesn't just invade us and so you have this generation of people that

01:14:19.260 were raised with the specter of commune with the specter of being invaded by the soviet union

01:14:23.940 because it already happened and what a what a dangerous thing because the winter war yeah the

01:14:29.640 you refer to that yeah it was 39 when when they invaded uh the the stalin demanded uh

01:14:37.560 korelia which was an area of finland where its second largest city was

01:14:41.560 um and uh vipuri and and and eventually uh they they fought back um to a surprising extent but

01:14:49.480 the soviets was just able to keep sending people and so they and so they eventually uh took it and

01:14:55.320 And Finland took back Corellia and took back the areas it had taken,

01:14:59.740 but eventually then in the continuation war,

01:15:01.540 but then had to concede them.

01:15:03.260 And so then there was this uneasy peace between Finland

01:15:06.560 and the Soviet Union, and there was the whole time

01:15:09.460 throughout the Cold War, there was concern

01:15:11.560 that the Soviets would potentially... 0.52

01:15:13.820 But now in 2026, do people...

01:15:17.460 Is it an imminent fear?

01:15:19.200 I don't think younger people think that realistically

01:15:22.320 it's it's very likely that they're going to Finland but older people were in this country

01:15:27.720 were brought up with that with all with this fear all the time the Finnish boomers the boomers yeah

01:15:33.660 the the the Russia could uh could could could march in uh unless we have the right policies

01:15:39.480 towards them and so Finlandization meant that certain even certain books and things or films

01:15:44.780 like the Venturian candidate were banned in this country in case it upset the Soviets the whole

01:15:50.160 the whole policy was to not upset the soviets that was kind of national policy so it was known

01:15:54.740 as and it was known as finlandization that way where you have a large powerful neighbor

01:15:58.380 and it dominates what you do because you cannot afford to upset that neighbor so for example san

01:16:04.500 marino i mean most people don't know anything about the politics of san marino but a lot of

01:16:09.420 the politics of san marino at least historically was about not upsetting italy because italy is

01:16:14.780 absolutely so that that that kind of thing so um yeah but i think among younger people though

01:16:21.420 that's that's no longer the case but in the in the cold war and it's only 30 years ago or um you had

01:16:27.620 left-wing politicians in this country that were kind of cooperating with the soviet union there's

01:16:32.580 a list which they refused to publish called the titan enlist which has which supposedly lists

01:16:37.140 various people that were senior finnish politicians until quite recently on the left that were

01:16:42.300 basically collaborating with the soviet union during the cold war so um that's that's how strong

01:16:47.800 it is but no i don't i don't think the general feeling is that they are likely to uh to invade

01:16:53.520 i've been up to the russian border the close it was with with callum actually a couple of years

01:16:58.580 ago he came here and we did this film about finland and by coincidence we didn't know we

01:17:03.760 were doing this we obviously went to the part of the borders as a border zones there's the there's

01:17:08.040 the border and then there's the there's this zone either side of the border um which you're not

01:17:13.160 supposed to go into and there's a big red hand there it says stop and you you it's quite clear

01:17:18.660 that you're even in forests there's all the trees have ribbons on them so you know you're in the

01:17:23.180 border zone and i wanted to take them to this bit of the border zone which i've been to years and

01:17:27.600 years ago where you're not supposed to go in it and we couldn't get permission to go in it not

01:17:31.660 with the current situation but um where where there's old signposts with crowns on from the

01:17:36.560 czarist era and things like that it's a it's a it's a time war we didn't but by accident we

01:17:43.300 managed to find the smallest bit of the border zone and this was on the day that putin announced

01:17:50.240 that people from the west can seek asylum in russia because they are fleeing liberal values

01:17:56.660 we literally just read literally just in the car read this on the internet and we got to this this

01:18:02.220 It's tight, this bit of the border zone where it's at its thin.

01:18:03.960 Because some people live in the border zone.

01:18:06.100 And he went into the border zone, walked in,

01:18:09.720 and I refused because I live here,

01:18:11.560 so I don't want to get in trouble.

01:18:12.900 But he went to look around someone's house or whatever.

01:18:16.680 Then we carried on walking to an even thinner bit

01:18:19.120 of the border zone, which we could literally see the border

01:18:22.720 where it's, you know, it's a field, basically.

01:18:25.220 It's a field where there's the blue and white marker

01:18:29.020 in the ground, and then next to it,

01:18:30.620 a red and green marker for russia and that's the border that's the actual border it's a field

01:18:35.140 that you could you could see it i said i said to callum look you know i dare you

01:18:38.820 i double dare you to take the gopro and quickly run over there and come back i dare you or i dare 0.98

01:18:48.040 you or you're gay um did he do it no no we it's the most closely one of the most closely bought 0.99

01:18:55.480 uh he would have been arrested i mean they would really okay all right fair enough then yeah yeah 0.87

01:19:01.960 fair enough then um it'd be funny just to dip one toe literally one foot across and like okay

01:19:08.060 all right uh so that's interesting that's interesting to know um okay ed well i won't

01:19:13.080 i honestly i won't bore you with uh with uh doing the the rumble rants and super chats um so i'll

01:19:18.200 i will we'll leave it there for today thank you very very much for your time really really

01:19:22.500 appreciate it i'd love i'd love to have you on as uh more regularly if you're up for that we'll

01:19:26.140 have you on um much more regularly i know it works out well for your day with the time zones

01:19:31.120 and everything it's actually relatively convenient for you yes it's two hours ahead so it's they're

01:19:37.120 not asking you to get out of bed super early i don't know how you do it though i don't know how

01:19:41.440 you can get out of bed that early well you must get out of bed what before seven um to to i mean

01:19:49.660 i wouldn't i wouldn't do it if i was doing i i just sleep if i was you i just sleep at the office

01:19:54.280 i mean it's just too it's it's too much but well done all right so chap so can i just plug so

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01:20:05.460 the jolly heretic and i've just done a film on moldova which i see as the kind of possible place

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01:20:26.980 many, many books, haven't you?

01:20:28.640 I've published some, yeah. I've published a few.

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01:20:33.060 And I'm

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01:20:46.220 and all that good stuff.

01:20:47.180 Okay bye

01:20:49.260 Thanks Ed

01:20:50.160 Cheers bye

01:20:50.680 There we go

01:20:52.560 Professor Ed Dutton there

01:20:53.900 I would like to speak

01:20:56.000 I'd speak to him every week

01:20:57.060 Try and get him as a regular Friday guest or something

01:21:00.180 Brilliant guy

01:21:01.740 The depth of his knowledge

01:21:03.500 Is extreme

01:21:05.660 Alright

01:21:06.140 Shall we do our Rumble Rants and Super Chats

01:21:07.620 It's already twenty past nine

01:21:09.140 Let's do that

01:21:10.640 Let's have a look at

01:21:11.300 Let me do this with my mic boom

01:21:12.580 So I can see the left hand side of my screen

01:21:14.160 Do you think Global Church History

01:21:15.980 Will be in at number one?

01:21:17.180 Have a look

01:21:19.680 I always find that out in real time with you guys

01:21:21.700 Yes, yes he is

01:21:22.740 It's a good day

01:21:23.460 Global church history

01:21:25.420 Christian name, global, middle name, church

01:21:29.380 Surname, history

01:21:30.360 He says

01:21:30.860 Today in 518 AD

01:21:34.580 Justin I, the uncle of

01:21:36.960 Justinian the Great

01:21:38.760 Or you've said St Justinian

01:21:40.040 St Justinian the Great

01:21:41.240 Justinian the First

01:21:42.920 Was made emperor

01:21:44.660 yeah I've got

01:21:45.560 oh on

01:21:46.500 Harry

01:21:47.220 see the camera

01:21:48.140 on

01:21:48.400 on my own channel

01:21:51.860 I've got a long

01:21:52.660 bit of content

01:21:53.920 talking all about

01:21:54.980 Justinian the first

01:21:55.980 and Justinian the second

01:21:57.080 two very different men

01:21:58.140 separated by a large

01:21:59.220 amount of time

01:21:59.800 but comparing their

01:22:00.900 reigns

01:22:02.220 also

01:22:02.720 also on

01:22:03.860 on

01:22:04.440 on my own

01:22:06.020 history theme show

01:22:06.800 Bode's Epochs

01:22:07.820 on LotusCeasers.com

01:22:09.600 because it's

01:22:09.960 sign up for as little

01:22:10.600 as £5 a month

01:22:11.160 Bronstein membership

01:22:11.660 also on there

01:22:12.600 got even more content

01:22:14.000 all about

01:22:14.420 justinian the first i've got a three-part series all about belisarius justinian's generalissimo

01:22:21.780 there's a lot of content out there of me talking about justinian hours of it actually

01:22:27.540 well he was only emperor through dint that his uncle could become emperor who himself was a

01:22:34.100 nobody justin's father had been like a goat herd or something or swine herd something like that

01:22:40.740 but he'd risen up through the roman army eastern roman army justin that is to the point where he

01:22:47.540 was sort of head of the praetorian guard always the most important general in the eastern roman

01:22:50.740 army and then when the emperor before him died he just sort of found himself the men proclaimed him

01:22:56.180 emperor justin the emperor justin come out of nowhere emperor justin the first out of nowhere

01:23:04.260 becomes emperor and then anyway he was already old by that point and he hands off the diadem

01:23:09.300 to his nephew justinian justinian the great could go on and on and on about justin and justinian

01:23:16.980 we won't though there's not enough time okay and the other factor that global church history gives

01:23:21.300 us is in 1553 the jane grey was made queen ah lady jane grey at the moment i've just finished

01:23:31.940 Long for, was it 6, 7, 8 episodes

01:23:34.600 All about Henry VIII

01:23:35.960 So the early

01:23:38.740 And mid 16th century

01:23:40.140 In fact this Sunday will be the last

01:23:42.220 The last episode

01:23:43.360 Watch out for where I say James VI

01:23:46.080 When I obviously meant Edward VI

01:23:47.740 Apologies

01:23:49.660 Already for doing that

01:23:51.620 It was just an error

01:23:52.240 So yeah, after Henry VIII

01:23:55.500 We get Edward VI for a while

01:23:58.060 A few years, what, five years?

01:24:00.640 Maybe six years? 0.99

01:24:01.940 And he's hard-lying Protestant 0.56

01:24:04.120 Where Henry VIII had always vacillated

01:24:06.140 Always made sure no one really knew whether they stood

01:24:08.340 Are we Catholic adjacent

01:24:10.080 Or are we full-blown Calvinist Lutherans

01:24:12.600 Nobody really knows

01:24:13.460 And that's how Henry VIII wanted it

01:24:14.900 When Edward VI comes in 0.94

01:24:17.400 It's full hard-lying Protestantism 0.96

01:24:19.480 No doubt about it 0.85

01:24:20.540 So when he died of natural consequences

01:24:23.440 As a teenager

01:24:24.260 The next in line should have been his elder sister 0.97

01:24:27.780 Mary, Mary I, bloody Mary 1.00

01:24:29.460 Who was Catholic 1.00

01:24:30.480 she'd sort of pretended for a lot of her life she wasn't but she was

01:24:34.300 she wanted to marry or did marry a spanish catholic

01:24:38.880 and uh in order to prevent that particular power faction thought could 1.00

01:24:45.620 we get lady jane gray who's related to the royal family 1.00

01:24:47.900 not in the line of succession but a senior member of the royal family she's 0.93

01:24:50.740 only young she's only like she's only i think she's only like 17 or

01:24:54.060 something i can't remember exact age and it's just an attempted coup d'etat

01:24:57.480 to keep mary out lady jane grey someone else's puppet she's queen for like nine days famously

01:25:05.000 but it falls apart it was an attempted coup which ultimately failed

01:25:09.880 well lady jane grace is one of those people in history can feel completely sorry for her

01:25:13.480 when the power broke as the men came to her saying we're going to make you queen she just broke down

01:25:17.560 in tears so i don't want to do this you know even i know this isn't right isn't legal so we'll get

01:25:24.680 this probably won't work like you're condemning me to death probably all of us to death by 0.68

01:25:29.400 attempting this thing i'm sorry for lady jane grey because when it was all over they did execute her

01:25:38.280 all right next one uh 14 barbers says bonjour

01:25:50.440 professor dutton is a terrific guest again yeah yeah yeah

01:25:54.680 is the greek weather girl next oh i did see a tweet someone just added me in a tweet um

01:26:00.900 there's some very very attractive greek weather girl and they said get a get a really attractive

01:26:06.000 weather girl to come on every day um the attack on rupert is probably damage control we all know

01:26:15.620 what he meant over a million views on it too yeah it was all it was obvious a good professor edward 0.89

01:26:22.200 done said it was pathetic it is isn't it it's pathetic obviously you just meant say it was one 0.89

01:26:29.980 incident obviously obviously there's no there's no way you can ever have heard of the dunblame 0.96

01:26:38.560 massacre and not know is a mass casualty event that's just not possible but then they go this

01:26:43.720 is what they do it's what they do they'll take you out of context they'll take a tiny slip of

01:26:47.720 the tongue and pretend you meant that. Pretend you're just ignorant. Shameless, absolutely 1.00

01:26:54.340 shameless. Okay, pardon me. GWFF says, Morning Bo and Co, I just finished listening to Camp 0.88

01:27:03.540 of the Saints on Audible. Excellently narrated by William Chad Newsome's velvet-wrapped performance

01:27:13.080 that turns every passage into pure listening pleasure oh interesting um i'd like to give a

01:27:18.440 shout out to old speak bookshop they they'd heard i don't know whether it was here or on state of

01:27:23.760 politics that um i wanted a copy it was interesting owning a copy of camp of the saints i haven't read

01:27:29.580 it and she just sent me one i got that yesterday so thank you for that appreciate that i will read

01:27:35.640 it probably take me a week or two to read it it's not all that thin i've got loads and loads of

01:27:39.460 other reading i've got to do but over the next week or two i'll get that read supposed to be a 0.93

01:27:45.460 classic isn't it if that's your bag uh gwff again says an idea for the band of bros and hoes 0.71

01:27:53.720 introducing bo's book club recommend a work we'll rumble rent and super chat in reviews 0.89

01:28:00.180 nice little revenue driver always uh anyways have a great weekend okay thank you very much

01:28:07.420 yeah I mean I could do something like that that's quite interesting I've got lots and lots of

01:28:11.380 recommendations Luca does a lot of the literature stuff now doesn't he uh for Lotus Eaters uh but

01:28:17.560 yeah I'll happily do something along those lines uh on Lotus Eaters we used to have a full-blown

01:28:24.120 book club sort of series episode thing um maybe it should be revived I did a number I did a few

01:28:33.100 with Carl I did one with Callum I believe one with Josh even anyway okay Gimli O'Gloin says

01:28:42.420 morning Bo you all right I'm all right sir how are you hope you're good uh have you heard that Henry

01:28:47.360 West wants to run in Clacton on the sole issue of France it still exists and shouldn't laughing's

01:28:54.400 crying face I did see a tweet so I've got another sort of comedy novelty I've never heard of him

01:29:00.960 before i never heard of him before yesterday henry west i've never heard of the dude but yeah he's

01:29:04.940 he's like got a is surely tongue-in-cheek comedy maybe it's not but must be really um he's gonna

01:29:12.300 run in clacton on the on the the issue of that we should destroy france go back to war with france

01:29:19.620 on some level i'm gonna choose to believe he's joking

01:29:24.920 make chevel chaise great again that's what i say what are chevel chaise

01:29:34.680 just running amok through their country basically okay

01:29:41.480 talk about the chevel chaise of the black prince and edward the third in the 14th century in detail 0.67

01:29:49.240 You want that

01:29:51.260 I'll talk all about that 1.00

01:29:53.100 Bonnie Pops behind the paywall

01:29:55.360 Okay

01:29:56.040 The next two are from

01:29:58.100 Acidhelm

01:29:59.240 That's their name 1.00

01:30:00.200 Acidhelm

01:30:00.580 It says

01:30:01.000 I agree Rupert likely misspoke

01:30:03.300 But your framing is a little misleading

01:30:05.060 Okay

01:30:05.620 Rupert first said

01:30:07.340 Because of one murder in Scotland

01:30:09.380 And Rogan then questioned him by saying

01:30:11.380 One murder

01:30:11.900 Yeah okay

01:30:12.380 Fair enough

01:30:12.880 That was a bit like what it was

01:30:14.060 Yeah

01:30:14.260 Okay

01:30:16.060 Fair enough

01:30:16.840 Yeah

01:30:17.540 Still the point stands isn't it

01:30:20.520 Still

01:30:20.780 Still the point stands

01:30:22.040 I would bet everything I own

01:30:25.880 That Rupert knows more than one person

01:30:29.020 Died at Dunblane that day

01:30:30.840 Of course he does

01:30:34.280 But fair point

01:30:35.440 For strict accuracy

01:30:37.320 Fair dues

01:30:38.300 The other one said

01:30:40.300 Rupert then confirmed one murder

01:30:43.680 And continued

01:30:44.220 It was a double misspoke

01:30:46.280 you okay i believe he went meant one incident yeah that's clearly what it was wasn't it that's

01:30:52.900 clearly what it was exactly but he needs to publicly clarify that failing to do so could

01:30:58.620 seriously damage restores reach in scotland really you think so is it not obvious maybe you could

01:31:04.560 just do a quick tweet it wouldn't hurt would it just do a quick tweet fair enough then

01:31:09.160 But with anyone

01:31:11.860 Who isn't trying to be disingenuous

01:31:14.280 Or just know exactly what you said there

01:31:17.040 He meant to say one incident

01:31:18.440 That doesn't cost anything to do one quick tweet

01:31:23.660 Does it?

01:31:25.120 Fair enough

01:31:25.480 Okay and the last Rumble rant here

01:31:27.400 From

01:31:29.360 BoneappleTeaParty

01:31:32.400 BoneappleTeaParty says 1.00

01:31:35.760 Fantastic show as usual chaps 1.00

01:31:37.660 Thank you 1.00

01:31:38.140 Hasn't Matt Goodwin reprised the role of Alan Partridge now?

01:31:42.140 Yeah, he's a little bit Alan Partridge in a few different ways, isn't he?

01:31:46.760 Yeah, okay

01:31:47.560 See people accusing Robert Jenrick of being a bit Partridge-like

01:31:51.520 Once or twice as well

01:31:53.420 I don't think there's anything wrong with it

01:31:56.020 Okay, over to the YouTube Super Chats

01:32:02.320 How many have we got?

01:32:03.800 It's probably about 20 or so

01:32:05.380 Let's read these

01:32:06.260 Tread9023 says 0.99

01:32:09.660 G'day Bo 0.99

01:32:10.360 T Red from New Zealand here

01:32:14.260 I don't say much 1.00

01:32:17.900 But it's usually on point

01:32:19.060 I like a laugh

01:32:20.000 That's why I listen to the news

01:32:21.280 Effing wonderful

01:32:22.300 Thanks for all the likes on X

01:32:23.980 Cheers mate

01:32:24.620 Oh you say your 1.00

01:32:27.340 NostalockmanNZ 0.90

01:32:30.560 I guess on Twitter 0.92

01:32:32.540 Yeah no worries

01:32:33.540 My pleasure

01:32:33.920 My pleasure

01:32:34.400 Okay

01:32:35.880 erwin romulus says all fighting vehicles and legions are now with good sir henry my land

01:32:43.920 air and sea no france shall there be the west for dignity dignity for the west

01:32:50.000 interesting that feels like a quote i don't know if it is um thanks anyway erwin romulus

01:32:58.680 met you in person at the live event very pleasant okay next one i've whipped through

01:33:04.060 these a bit i'm afraid so getting on for time uh emily for restore says my super chats yesterday

01:33:09.740 are misread by some irgc equals scum who want one end of times and two nuclear weapons i'm on

01:33:18.440 whichever side is fighting them fair enough i didn't i don't really see the chat i don't really

01:33:23.360 see the chat um occasionally go back and look at it after the show but usually don't i hope i wasn't

01:33:28.600 the one that misread or misunderstood what you said with other people in the chat well well okay

01:33:32.520 you've clarified yourself there okay good erwin romulus again says as a bachelor i survived two

01:33:37.380 serious home invasions oh no what really oh god that's horrible sorry to hear that i yearn for a

01:33:43.900 serious gun debate in britain i refuse to break break the law yet i must somehow protect my family

01:33:49.100 trust me none of us is truly safe yeah so worry worry being burgled or any sort of home invasion

01:33:54.220 like that it's terrifying it's horrible it's much worse than just they take a few bits and bobs

01:34:00.160 It's worse than that, isn't it?

01:34:01.460 Like psychologically, emotionally, all those things.

01:34:04.060 You're supposed to be safe in your own home from nowhere else.

01:34:06.500 Really sorry to hear that, Erwin Rommel.

01:34:07.840 This is horrible.

01:34:09.200 That's horrible.

01:34:11.440 Joe Gaskins says,

01:34:14.520 Good morning, chaps. 1.00

01:34:17.140 Have you read Martin Selner's book, Remigration? 1.00

01:34:20.260 I haven't.

01:34:20.840 That's something I should have read, isn't it?

01:34:24.360 Practical, humane, and gives us detail to rally behind

01:34:26.880 and push for a unified movement.

01:34:28.940 Have a great day.

01:34:29.560 okay Martin Selner's book remigration I shall have to source that and read it so I wrote an 0.87

01:34:37.080 article a long time ago a fair few years ago just saying remigration is inevitable it's on

01:34:41.460 it's on the website oh not Epoxy it's just on the Lotus Eater's website for free it's not behind the

01:34:45.460 play wall or anything remigration is inevitable I wrote that years ago what three years ago four

01:34:51.780 years ago I can't remember exactly back when the Overton window hadn't really moved that far it's

01:34:56.700 not that people hadn't been talking about deportations and mass remigration for years

01:35:00.040 and years and years i'm not i'm not claiming i was the first person ever to say it far far from it

01:35:04.360 there was no one writing articles and publishing articles explicitly saying it making a fairly

01:35:09.720 detailed case for it um okay martin selner's written a book has he all right i should try

01:35:16.980 and check that out just try and find it and check that out justin reynolds says really want to see

01:35:22.560 Bo host breakfast in full Henry VIII regalia

01:35:25.900 He is the king of breakfast shows after all

01:35:28.260 Now what are you going to do

01:35:30.500 Watch Mike Graham please

01:35:31.740 Haggard old

01:35:34.360 Tired reformtard takes 1.00

01:35:36.740 Stupid boomer takes 1.00

01:35:39.960 Please 1.00

01:35:40.940 What are you going to do

01:35:42.120 Watch Jeremy Kyle 1.00

01:35:42.880 Another reformtard 1.00

01:35:44.260 Completely captured loser 1.00

01:35:47.220 If you want base breakfast takes 0.99

01:35:49.820 This is the only place to be

01:35:50.820 okay uh billy monaghan monaghan billy monaghan says it's illegal to enter parliament clad in

01:36:02.720 armor since the civil war that's probably sounds that sounds right actually i don't know if count

01:36:06.460 bin face's costume counts as really as armor but i think that's a fair point i think that's true

01:36:10.760 actually i've never heard that somewhere you certainly can't take a sword in there

01:36:13.700 not the count bin face has a sword but bin face uh would have to remove the costume keep up the

01:36:21.780 good work chaps yeah i'm pretty sure ed dunn says you don't necessarily need to wear an actual

01:36:25.720 tire but i think they're still though they're for men it's different for women they can wear

01:36:30.180 all sorts can't they obviously it's like not risque or anything but for men i think you do

01:36:35.260 surely you need to be wearing a shirt and a blazer i think there's relatively strict dress code

01:36:39.500 Okay, don't think they'd let him in there with that costume

01:36:42.600 I really don't 1.00

01:36:44.000 KTO the Swiss

01:36:49.980 I don't know if that's how you want it read

01:36:51.840 It's supposed to be read

01:36:52.580 KTO the Swiss, 1617 says

01:36:55.360 This Yank accepts letters of mark and reprisal

01:37:00.960 I don't know what they are 0.98

01:37:04.820 This sounds like something I should know about

01:37:06.140 Letters of mark and reprisal

01:37:09.500 i don't know sorry have you out history bro'd me there is that an obscure reference to something

01:37:14.320 in history that i should have known about and don't sorry about that thanks for the super chat

01:37:18.360 though loaf of sheffield good old loaf of sheffield super fan says your confusion regard in the line

01:37:24.420 of succession okay henceforth it should be termed a lamyism lamy question mark super mastermind

01:37:32.440 question mark two ronnie's version was better okay yeah there's the two ronnie's comedy version

01:37:37.420 of mastermind check that sketch out brilliant hilarious comedy gold thomas glover 92 says 0.80

01:37:44.600 i saw the rupert uproar is this all they've got yeah it's pathetic is it really pathetic 0.97

01:37:49.980 pretending you don't understand what he meant 0.86

01:37:53.500 get real if this was if this exact thing had happened it was a joe rogan interview and the

01:37:59.480 exact same thing played out that it was nigel or ed davy or jeremy corbyn or anything i wouldn't be

01:38:06.060 Going around saying 0.99

01:38:06.700 He's so ignorant 1.00

01:38:07.420 How could he think 1.00

01:38:08.160 It was one murder

01:38:08.800 It obviously wasn't one murder

01:38:09.760 We all know

01:38:10.120 It wasn't one murder 1.00

01:38:10.680 What an idiot 1.00

01:38:11.300 No I wouldn't be doing that 1.00

01:38:12.880 I wouldn't dream of doing that 0.99

01:38:14.440 That's pathetic 0.98

01:38:15.060 In real time 0.99

01:38:17.400 You might go

01:38:17.860 Oh

01:38:18.100 He obviously meant

01:38:18.940 One incident

01:38:20.080 That's it

01:38:21.340 That's it

01:38:21.740 Just an internal monologue

01:38:22.780 For one second

01:38:23.540 That's it

01:38:24.440 That's all it merits

01:38:25.100 Isn't it

01:38:25.600 Yeah is that all they've got

01:38:27.100 Meanwhile

01:38:28.640 Ignoring pretty much

01:38:31.060 The entire rest

01:38:32.340 Of the two hours

01:38:33.340 Of all the things

01:38:34.400 He was saying

01:38:34.840 Of all the takes he's got

01:38:37.480 Ignore all of that

01:38:39.660 It speaks volumes doesn't it

01:38:41.440 Absolutely tells you everything you need to know

01:38:43.560 The mirror

01:38:46.640 Orbiting reform cards

01:38:51.080 Good one

01:38:54.240 You know everyone else sees it right 0.99

01:38:56.300 You know you're making a bit of a fool of yourself 0.99

01:38:59.040 Nearly every day 0.99

01:39:00.080 Right

01:39:01.100 maybe you don't know maybe maybe you are that i don't i'm self-aware

01:39:07.740 oh as a kirkwood smith says royal family can spend one or two generations in germany 300

01:39:14.980 years ago and still be considered german but kemi and ilk are just as english as you are

01:39:19.820 yeah i know the absurdity of it isn't it literal anchor baby

01:39:23.240 absurd okay max robe says moldova for the frisians i i get what you're doing there

01:39:32.200 if anyone doesn't regularly watch the bow show max robe very often says

01:39:38.180 very very often says somewhere somewhere other for the frisians

01:39:42.940 quite a good running joke now i like it now

01:39:47.320 more dover for the frizzians why not why not let's make frizzier great again okay

01:39:56.840 uh local sheffield says history bro channel bo chats to ed dutton churchill yeah it's there

01:40:04.600 yeah i said earlier

01:40:06.040 there's a long-form bit of content on lotus eaters.com of me chatting to ed about churchill

01:40:13.780 And another one that is behind the paywall though I believe

01:40:16.500 Another one that isn't behind any sort of paywall

01:40:18.460 On History Bro

01:40:20.060 Me and Ed talking about

01:40:21.620 The life and career of Churchill

01:40:24.300 And memory of Churchill

01:40:26.060 Okay

01:40:26.460 Still got another four

01:40:28.840 Online whiskey consultant

01:40:32.440 That's their name

01:40:33.360 Says

01:40:33.720 A book club on Camp of the Saints

01:40:37.000 Would be good once you've read it

01:40:38.600 I know Connery is a fan of the book

01:40:40.280 So perhaps he could come on for it

01:40:41.940 Yeah happily do that

01:40:42.640 I did a couple of

01:40:44.820 Whether it was a book club with Connor

01:40:46.320 Or just talking about movies

01:40:47.840 We talked about Labyrinth

01:40:50.200 It's actually a really good conversation

01:40:51.720 Me and Connor Tomlinson

01:40:52.820 Talking about breaking down Labyrinth

01:40:55.060 In detail, long form

01:40:56.800 David Bowie's Labyrinth, yeah

01:40:59.240 Another one we did, what did we do?

01:41:01.580 We did

01:41:01.900 It's a Wonderful Life

01:41:04.880 Me and Connor breaking down

01:41:07.160 It's a Wonderful Life, long form

01:41:08.540 We did Animal Farm

01:41:10.820 We did a book club on Animal Farm

01:41:12.180 me and Connor. Yeah, if he's read and likes Camp of the Saints, once I've read it, I'll

01:41:17.920 ask him. We could totally make that happen. That could, well, happen. Okay. Lancel Llewellyn.

01:41:28.420 Oh, sorry, just Lance Llewellyn. Lance Llewellyn says, Farage versus Binface is just a battle

01:41:34.420 of containers. He's here all week, people. One's a container, one's a container.

01:41:42.180 containment well they're both containment aren't they okay last two containment uh sorry

01:41:48.840 Tatum Tatum says uh operational reserve minimum mentioned yesterday oh yeah you mentioned it and

01:41:57.420 I was like I'm not sure exactly what that is what you mean by that so you're explaining it now

01:42:00.700 operational reserve minimum mentioned yesterday is the bottom quarter of an oil silo you can't drain

01:42:06.780 we're nearing that at our facilities in the u.s oh right okay so you're saying you're running low

01:42:13.520 of oil reserves in the u.s really the united states is a crude oil net exporter not to mention all the

01:42:24.400 fracking interesting if true it should be able to be remedied like that though in the united states

01:42:34.640 did you say Oklahoma in Oklahoma

01:42:37.600 United States is a net exporter

01:42:40.000 okay if you say so I'm not saying you're making it up or lying or anything

01:42:44.260 hopefully it gets sorted out hopefully that just gets remedied

01:42:48.300 okay and the last one here from Matthew C 83 another superfan Matthew how are you Matt met you in real life at the live event

01:42:56.760 great chap you say

01:42:58.540 Selner's re-migration can be bought from Oldspeak Oldspeak bookshop yeah I imagine it can yeah

01:43:04.160 okay when i go there because me and nate mr h reviews uh gonna be going there in october i

01:43:08.640 believe at some point um well maybe i'll pick that up when i go there okay all right that's

01:43:15.660 the last one that's the show so it's now 43 minutes past nine in the a.m which is summertime

01:43:20.320 don't say i'm not generous and say i'm not a river to my people it's supposed to be a one-hour show

01:43:23.940 got 43 minutes free there free have to do it it's a friday i don't have to do any other recording

01:43:31.520 and I'm not on the main podcast

01:43:32.380 today or anything

01:43:32.860 or lads hour

01:43:33.380 so right

01:43:35.060 43 minutes plus 9

01:43:35.940 in the AM

01:43:36.500 Friday the 10th of July

01:43:39.040 in the year of our Lord

01:43:39.700 2026

01:43:40.620 thank you for joining me

01:43:41.720 genuinely from the heart

01:43:42.800 thank you so much

01:43:43.540 without you guys

01:43:44.200 it's not a thing

01:43:44.780 is it

01:43:45.480 I hope you've enjoyed the show

01:43:46.680 I really do

01:43:47.360 try and make the best of the day

01:43:48.880 head and indeed your weekend

01:43:49.940 stay cool

01:43:50.840 it's a bit of a heat wave

01:43:51.560 isn't it

01:43:51.900 try and stay cool

01:43:52.500 don't

01:43:53.180 don't get heat stroke

01:43:53.940 try not to get heat stroke

01:43:55.560 don't just bodily jump

01:43:57.520 into a really really

01:43:58.240 cold body of water

01:43:59.680 and it makes you

01:44:00.960 voluntarily breathe in and you get a lung full of water and drown don't do that be careful about

01:44:05.180 that otherwise try and make the best of your time carpe diem seize the day or days over the weekend

01:44:12.800 the most valuable thing you will ever have is your time by a long long way by orders of magnitude the

01:44:17.740 most valuable thing that you can never get back again once it's gone it's gone is your time try

01:44:22.820 make it count if you can all right without being too preachy about it until monday morning take care

01:44:30.960 We'll be right back.

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - July 10, 2026

Breakfast With Beau ｜ Friday 10th July 2026

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