The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - Breakfast With Beau ｜ Friday 11th September 2026

00:00:00.000 Morning.

00:00:03.820 You alright?

00:00:05.900 I hope you are.

00:00:08.080 I sincerely, genuinely hope you are.

00:00:11.400 Yeah, I'm alright, I suppose.

00:00:15.740 Contemplative today.

00:00:18.560 25 years since 9-11. 0.93

00:00:23.120 Those old enough to remember 0.72

00:00:24.960 will remember.

00:00:30.000 all right it's eight in the a.m this is summertime friday

00:00:38.960 september the 11th in the year of our lord 2026

00:00:46.320 25 years on from the most surreal most extraordinary day in my life easily nothing

00:00:55.360 nothing anywhere close to that right we'll talk about it today we'll talk all about it

00:01:05.200 as always nearly always i'm joined by my producer little harry how are you this morning good sir

00:01:09.120 morning yeah we're good everybody voice of the producer there godlike from the present

00:01:17.120 harry you weren't even born were you what year were you born 2005.

00:01:20.560 feel old yet 2005 radio grown-up man

00:01:28.140 all right

00:01:31.180 all right well should we just get straight into it

00:01:36.380 what is the cabal of evil fleet street editors talking quite frankly evil

00:01:41.820 feature editors talking about this morning what misdirection are they going with today

00:01:47.240 What liars by omission are they talking about, or not talking about today?

00:01:51.980 Let's get into it. Let's have a look.

00:01:54.800 Today I think I want to spend less time on the normal headlines

00:01:58.980 and talk about 9-11 a fair bit today. I think that's what I want to do.

00:02:02.420 Some of the front pages go with it, or do they? One or two of them do.

00:02:05.180 Not many of them do. A lot of the websites are, although not all of them.

00:02:10.560 But I think today that's what I want to do.

00:02:12.860 What do I feel like doing today?

00:02:13.820 So let's just whip through it

00:02:16.920 The day that changed the world forever

00:02:18.780 Obviously talking about 9-11

00:02:20.400 Harry, do you want to bring that up

00:02:22.780 So people sit there again

00:02:23.620 The day that changed the world forever

00:02:26.040 And mayor's plot holds tax

00:02:28.920 Holiday tax

00:02:29.800 Vacation tax

00:02:31.300 Mayor's plot holds tax

00:02:34.140 Good one, good way of writing

00:02:35.640 Right, The Guardian

00:02:37.960 Oh, revolting 0.95

00:02:38.860 Absolutely, absolutely disgusting 1.00

00:02:41.500 Pure slop subversion 0.98

00:02:44.660 I'd end it if I could 1.00

00:02:46.500 If I was king of England

00:02:47.480 Or absolute monarch rather

00:02:49.880 Not just king

00:02:50.520 Okay

00:02:54.140 A hammer blow

00:02:55.300 Plan for English tourist tax

00:02:58.160 Angus hotel industry

00:02:59.900 Yeah

00:03:00.500 The story is

00:03:01.660 Quickly

00:03:02.120 Fairly briefly

00:03:03.060 That Andy Bumham's government

00:03:05.300 No sternum burnham

00:03:06.240 And his housing secretary

00:03:07.920 Angela the Fridge Rayner

00:03:09.700 Big Bird 0.88

00:03:10.240 who stands 7 foot 2 inches tall

00:03:15.180 and weighs an incredible 500 pounds 0.99

00:03:17.280 and she has a fridrainer 0.90

00:03:20.120 they've decided

00:03:21.080 what they're going to do

00:03:22.000 they're going to let local councils

00:03:23.680 or local mayors

00:03:24.560 set a tax on overnight stays

00:03:29.800 so hotels, B&Bs

00:03:32.280 I think even Airbnb

00:03:33.260 anything like that

00:03:34.560 with no upper limit

00:03:37.460 They may as well just have sort of complete power

00:03:40.620 To just whack a tax on like that

00:03:42.200 Because there's a massive crisis in funding

00:03:45.080 Local funding

00:03:45.960 But the upshot is 1.00

00:03:48.560 Is that normal people that can't even afford a foreign holiday 0.98

00:03:51.540 Tried to have some sort of holiday in Britain

00:03:56.700 A staycation

00:03:57.740 That becomes insanely expensive as well now

00:04:02.460 You want a few days in Blackpool

00:04:06.740 If you want to stay over a few days down in Perrenporth or something

00:04:10.040 That's going to cost you loads

00:04:12.660 Because the socialists need your money

00:04:15.180 To pay for our invasion 1.00

00:04:18.500 Pay for boomer pensions 1.00

00:04:22.020 To pay for an NHS which is completely unsustainable 1.00

00:04:26.500 They won't stop spending

00:04:29.500 They will not stop spending

00:04:31.480 So you've got to pay up

00:04:33.060 Say it'll

00:04:36.780 Make loads of businesses shut down

00:04:39.540 Because they just can't afford things anymore

00:04:41.120 It'll cost 30,000 jobs or something

00:04:45.420 35,000 jobs or something

00:04:46.680 Or not, they can't afford things

00:04:50.360 People won't go

00:04:51.200 And so that was their whole margin

00:04:53.900 It'll be too expensive

00:04:55.360 People won't go there

00:04:57.140 Use their B&B, say

00:04:58.820 It was struggling

00:04:59.640 His margins were tiny as it was

00:05:01.660 Less people go there now because of this tax

00:05:04.280 That's imposed from above by their mayor

00:05:06.360 The local authority

00:05:07.360 And that's their whole profit margin

00:05:08.840 And they go out of business

00:05:09.580 People lose jobs

00:05:10.480 Right

00:05:12.940 And I thought Andy Burnham

00:05:15.560 One of the main things he wanted to do

00:05:17.000 One of his main pledges

00:05:18.940 Was to help people, normal people

00:05:21.600 With the cost of living crisis

00:05:23.500 As long as you don't go on holiday

00:05:26.080 As long as you don't want to stay overnight somewhere else

00:05:27.900 Because that will be more expensive now

00:05:31.280 There you go, brilliant, thanks Andy

00:05:34.860 The Bayeux Tapestry is in town

00:05:38.500 This is the British Museum there, behind there

00:05:40.600 That's the facade of the British Museum there

00:05:43.140 And that's the gates, the railings 1.00

00:05:44.980 And these people, these two women decided to come dressed up 0.99

00:05:48.420 Decided to LARP as, well Normans 0.98

00:05:51.780 Funny, they're wearing Norman style helmets

00:05:54.360 But they've got Anglo-Saxon style shields

00:05:56.180 Anyway, the Bayeux Tapestry is here

00:05:59.520 You'll be lucky to get a ticket and get in

00:06:02.360 You're only allowed 40 minutes to walk around

00:06:04.460 I found that out yesterday

00:06:05.280 40 minutes

00:06:08.340 Seems a bit miserly

00:06:11.920 Okay

00:06:14.540 Borrowing costs soar as investors dump bonds

00:06:18.740 Apparently the 30 year yield

00:06:21.760 On US bonds

00:06:23.620 Is all kinds of foobar

00:06:29.520 as they they're saying film reveals idf israeli defense force the israeli army reveals their

00:06:35.600 systems used in gaza killings there's some film was it uh is it uh um there's a film festival

00:06:43.520 it's like the venice film festival or something i don't know one of the film festivals

00:06:49.040 there's only been one entry into the documentary the documentary sort of uh category

00:06:56.640 one entry and it's this one it's made by israelis sort of anti-gaza operation anti

00:07:05.100 benjamin netanyahu type israelis they made a film i was produced by the guardian

00:07:09.260 slipped that in the film the documentary is produced by the guardian the only entry is it

00:07:15.420 can or venice i don't know one of the big film bigger film festivals and it's a documentary

00:07:20.420 Revealing evidence from all sorts of whistleblowers within the IDF

00:07:25.060 About how they have killed loads and loads of civilians in Gaza

00:07:31.040 According to that article, take it or leave it

00:07:34.120 That's what that article says

00:07:35.300 Alright, the Daily Mail 0.96

00:07:37.240 Daily Mail, this woman was a teacher and apparently she sexually assaulted boys and girls 0.97

00:07:42.600 She was on trial for having sex with a boy, a teenage boy 0.92

00:07:47.580 then well as the headline says teacher found guilty of sex with teen boy also abused two 0.90

00:07:53.220 schoolgirls okay burnham's holiday tax to hammer families on uk breaks all right got it got it

00:08:00.120 the torograph pure zionist slop anti-native nativist british patriotic in sentiment pure

00:08:07.840 globalist filter telegraph was once right-leaning was once quite trustworthy now it's falling into 0.56

00:08:14.220 hands of our racial religious and tribal enemies there you go that's what the torograph is well

00:08:19.980 done if you work there and you think yourself patriotic or something i think you've got the

00:08:25.340 native's interest at heart you work at the telegraph well think about what you're doing

00:08:33.260 who you work for now have a word with yourself actually you want to be part of that do you

00:08:40.780 You're going to be a cog in that machine, are you? Well done, alright.

00:08:44.780 Labour mayors plot 5% tourist tax.

00:08:48.780 Backlash from hotels and pubs as families face extra £198 on bill for staycation.

00:08:55.780 Yeah, great, thanks. 0.81

00:08:57.780 Hamas praises Miliband's Israel sanctions.

00:09:00.780 Of course it does, yeah, of course it does.

00:09:03.780 I think the quote was a step in the right direction. 0.98

00:09:10.780 Edwin Rand calling it an ethnic cleansing. Hamas loved that. Of course they would. I'd 1.00

00:09:21.740 want nothing to do with both parties. France wants UK to take migrants from EU. I bet it

00:09:29.720 does. I bet it does. France is still our rival to this day. They may be our brothers, our

00:09:36.640 cousins, the individual normal innocent people of France. As a state, a state entity, a sovereign

00:09:47.680 entity, it is still our rival. They still do what they could to undermine us in various

00:09:58.520 ways they do not could they do okay the sun what sloppy joes of sun got they're going with the

00:10:08.060 holiday thing again working people whacked burnham vows cost of living help then taxes staycations

00:10:14.020 what the whole pm like what the hell what the whole prime minister but there is can't help it

00:10:20.300 won't stop spending on our invasion so you'll have to pay if you want to go to an airbnb

00:10:27.380 On a rainy weekend down in Scunthorpe

00:10:30.120 Andy Byrne, sorry, but

00:10:32.000 You've got to pay more now

00:10:33.740 Something about Strictly Come Dancing

00:10:38.100 Don't care

00:10:38.640 The Times, the Venerable Times

00:10:40.740 81-year-old Helen Mirren is still making films

00:10:43.800 I don't

00:10:48.340 I really don't understand the psychology 1.00

00:10:52.500 Of someone that's really quite old

00:10:54.440 And a multi-multi-millionaire

00:10:56.320 and their fame is secured

00:11:00.700 and it's still not enough.

00:11:07.760 Be prepared to ban masks at protests, police ordered.

00:11:12.320 Just right-wing masks, sorry.

00:11:14.220 Just people that are patriotic or nativist,

00:11:17.160 even if they're being led by the nose by some sort of honeypot psyop.

00:11:21.300 Those people can't wear masks.

00:11:22.640 Siobhan Mahmood has told the police

00:11:25.660 Be prepared to go in

00:11:27.500 And make sure everyone takes their masks off

00:11:29.160 If they're that type 1.00

00:11:29.980 It doesn't apply to Muslims though 0.94

00:11:31.780 Says the Pakistani

00:11:33.240 The Muslim Pakistani 0.75

00:11:36.700 Home Secretary

00:11:38.000 Doesn't apply to Muslims 0.98

00:11:39.960 But if white men want to cover their face 0.64

00:11:42.880 For whatever reason

00:11:43.400 Police have got to break that up

00:11:46.080 Stop that 1.00

00:11:46.680 Households 0.87

00:11:54.900 This is an interesting story

00:11:56.020 Households face £100

00:11:57.480 On bill to pay cost of wind

00:12:00.720 Again, the odd sort of

00:12:02.500 Syntax cadence of that

00:12:03.860 The odd grammar

00:12:04.480 Why do they write like that?

00:12:08.720 Households face £100

00:12:09.860 On bills to pay cost of wind

00:12:12.040 What?

00:12:14.200 Price of switching off

00:12:15.800 turbines on

00:12:17.800 aging network. It's just a story that

00:12:19.700 if the government is to meet its own

00:12:21.820 self-imposed green

00:12:23.340 targets by 2030

00:12:25.280 they've got to swap

00:12:27.740 over, it's something about swapping over from

00:12:29.860 the older

00:12:30.860 cables, pipes

00:12:33.960 I don't know what

00:12:34.920 to the new ones

00:12:37.540 that will cost loads of money to do that

00:12:39.980 and they'll just whack it on the bills

00:12:41.980 they'll just whack it on people's bills

00:12:43.200 right okay the eye paper finally the eye paper talks about 9-11 the day that changed the world

00:12:50.440 yeah it really did 25 years on from 9-11 from the 9-11 tourist attacks america remembers

00:12:57.920 the world remembers 2977 people that's across all all four of the

00:13:05.040 incidents the three different sites if you count manhattan as one

00:13:12.300 2,977 people

00:13:15.060 including 67 Britons

00:13:16.740 died in the atrocity

00:13:18.180 which changed history

00:13:19.880 and reshaped global politics

00:13:21.400 yeah it really did

00:13:22.580 it really really really did

00:13:23.600 why Trump would not be president

00:13:26.240 without 9-11

00:13:26.980 what's it got to do with Trump really

00:13:28.240 they can't help themselves can they

00:13:30.820 they can't help themselves

00:13:33.420 that may well be true actually

00:13:34.740 why Trump would not be president

00:13:35.980 without 9-11

00:13:36.660 but

00:13:37.260 could you give it a rest

00:13:39.000 for five seconds

00:13:40.080 with the Trump stuff

00:13:41.140 just immediately pivot back to trump back to orange evil man orange man bad immediately

00:13:49.460 in the same breath remembering what something an atrocious thing that changed

00:13:55.540 human history changed the timeline of human civilization and orange man bad in the same

00:14:01.340 breath it's like all right okay okay okay we'll get on to it we'll do the front pages then i'll

00:14:11.700 spend a bit of time talking about it look yasmin alibaba brown what does she say britain is turning

00:14:18.040 on people who look like me but white allies are silent gutted oh well maybe you shouldn't have 0.95

00:14:24.060 been obnoxious your entire life maybe you shouldn't have been a race baiter your entire life yasmin 0.94

00:14:28.840 Alibaba Brown. It's not just particularly turning on people that look like you, turning on you, 0.96

00:14:34.040 because you're an obnoxious piece of trash, disgusting woman. Is there anything she says 1.00

00:14:40.120 that isn't trying to undermine Britain and British people, native British white people, ever? 0.80

00:14:44.360 She's ever said anything that's in our interest or in favour of us, ever? 0.90

00:14:50.680 This is a woman of foreign ethnicity, born in a foreign country. She only came here after she 1.00

00:14:55.560 went to university she's not british in any way on any level there's no argument to be made that

00:15:01.080 she's british yet she comes here and writes piece after piece after piece after piece after piece 0.94

00:15:06.520 trying to undermine the fabric of our society our very our very country how she is unbelievably evil 1.00

00:15:16.680 a bitter old foreign woman a disgusting individual now she's complaining 1.00

00:15:24.920 oh britain are turning on me well if you hadn't been a subversive scumbag for decades perhaps 1.00

00:15:33.380 they wouldn't be no introversion yasmin no you're not going to think about what you've done you're 0.99

00:15:38.700 not going to think about why that might be it's just blind racism from british people is it

00:15:45.060 Just blind bigotry for no reason.

00:15:47.420 Is it? 1.00

00:15:50.620 Scumbag. 1.00

00:15:51.340 Absolute scumbag, that Willem. 1.00

00:15:53.820 I'd deport her. 1.00

00:15:54.660 If it was up to me, I would deport her. 0.81

00:16:00.380 Okay. 0.76

00:16:02.160 For sedition.

00:16:03.100 The Metro.

00:16:03.620 The Metro.

00:16:08.680 Absolutely revolting.

00:16:10.000 The Metro.

00:16:11.580 Alright, here we go.

00:16:12.500 They do talk about 9-11, 25 years on

00:16:15.360 2,977 died on a day of terror that shook the world

00:16:22.800 But 9-11's deadly legacy goes on

00:16:25.160 As cancers claim lives of thousands

00:16:27.300 Who breathed in its clouds of toxic dust

00:16:29.760 Yeah, that's also a thing that doesn't get talked about very much

00:16:32.680 It's absolutely true, apparently that dust was highly toxic

00:16:41.300 the financial times there you go liberty lights us marks 25 years since 9 11. they've got those

00:16:50.180 two beams of lights don't they okay oil price surge and signs of stubborn inflation reignite

00:16:57.940 global bond sell-off i told you didn't know that us 30-year yield saw us government bonds

00:17:04.180 guilt-edged bonds the 30-year yield on those soars because it's not that attractive of a deal is it

00:17:10.500 Saudi's output falls, crude at $107 a barrel, let's quickly check in on the price of crude in real time

00:17:16.560 Let's do a refresh so we've got it exactly in real time

00:17:19.760 Brent crude is at $105.50 a barrel, West Texas just ticked over $100 a barrel

00:17:26.160 So yeah, creeping up there

00:17:29.020 Trump in $1 trillion vote pledge, that was an interesting thing, you might have seen it

00:17:34.340 I think it was in Texas, some sort of Republican Party rally

00:17:37.540 he said if i think the deal what he says if if you guys out there the u.s voting public

00:17:45.900 if you keep the republicans in congress i will give everyone every adult in america 5 000 bucks

00:17:55.280 each the only the only sort of stipulation is you have to spend it in america on american goods

00:18:01.680 You can't just spend it on

00:18:04.520 A holiday in Japan

00:18:06.020 Or whatever

00:18:07.200 You can't just spend it on American stuff

00:18:10.440 I don't know how that could possibly be enforced

00:18:13.360 But he said he'd give every adult

00:18:15.420 Five grand

00:18:16.480 It's just a bribe, isn't it?

00:18:25.040 It's just a bribe

00:18:25.880 That sets a bit of a worrying precedent, doesn't it?

00:18:28.840 That seems a bit like

00:18:30.300 an ancient Roman donative to me. I feel like that's not a good idea. It sets a

00:18:41.460 precedent, doesn't it, that the voting public will start demanding money like

00:18:46.940 that in order to vote for parties. If history's anything to go by that's not a

00:18:55.100 good idea that's a slippery slope like yeah I feel like he hasn't thought that

00:19:03.380 through really trying to bribe the general voting public like that what

00:19:09.920 happened in Rome is not that not the normal people the army usually the

00:19:13.280 Praetorian Guard actually it'll be like every when it started off when a new

00:19:18.200 Emperor came in in order to just just to garner the goodwill of the Praetorian

00:19:24.220 guard or the army give them a so-called donative of money after a while they started expecting it

00:19:31.760 after a while if you don't give them their donative they'll just murder you so the next

00:19:35.940 guy will come in and give them the donative because they've made sure he would give them

00:19:40.160 the donative otherwise he gets the chop as well and so on and so on very very slippery slope that

00:19:49.260 No, I'm not saying exactly the same thing will play out

00:19:53.120 I'm saying 0.78

00:19:54.080 Once people sort of

00:19:57.400 Think it's their

00:19:59.060 It's their God-given right to have something like that

00:20:01.760 It becomes part of the political landscape

00:20:04.280 And it needs to be more and more and more

00:20:06.260 Oh, oh, oh, yeah

00:20:07.020 It'll end up completely bankrupt in the state as well

00:20:10.260 Because it'll be so much

00:20:11.420 Like in ancient Rome

00:20:13.460 Ends up crippling the emperors

00:20:16.180 Or the military generals or whoever

00:20:17.680 They can't afford it

00:20:18.560 because it becomes it becomes more and more and more and more whoever the next guy is who offer

00:20:25.060 who promises you more you vote for him until they're promising astronomical numbers that

00:20:29.740 aren't sustainable don't have any bearing on reality really is trust me that's a slippery

00:20:36.240 slope okay donald trump said if you vote for him and the republicans every adult will get five

00:20:41.360 grand. Okay, that's not a concern. Sure. That's not another parallel with the decline and

00:20:49.940 fall of the Roman Empire. Sure. All right. What else have we got? I want to get on to

00:20:57.940 9-11. The Daily Express. It's a good paper. You can read your Express now. Terminal Hannah

00:21:05.120 slater and nobody 38 urges mps to back assisted dying bill in today's vote just pass the right

00:21:11.800 to die bill for people like me how about no hannah how about there's something more at stake here

00:21:15.960 than just you it's terribly sad you're dying but there's more at stake here there's something

00:21:20.560 bigger than just you actually how about no how about that's the thin end of a wedge where the

00:21:27.760 state ends up being able to or encouraging lots and lots of people to die that needn't otherwise

00:21:32.800 die is something bigger than you hannah 38 how about that just pass the right to die a bill no

00:21:38.960 no i'm not going to be manipulated by you actually hannah slater 38 thank you next the mirror 0.78

00:21:47.360 9 11 and this toxic cloud of death still claims victims today i live with legacy of what it's

00:21:52.640 done to me okay look at that it's like something out of a film isn't it we'll talk about in a

00:21:59.200 in a minute 25 years later okay all right esther ransom end of life care it's too late for me

00:22:05.520 frail tv star says a dignitas trip out why'd they write like that dignitas is when you go to

00:22:11.900 switzerland and they they kill you legally if you want to end your life at the moment you have to go

00:22:17.340 to switzerland and dignitas will do it for you apparently esther ransom wanted to go to dignitas

00:22:23.060 wants you to trip

00:22:23.900 but that trip's out now

00:22:25.700 it's out of the question now

00:22:27.100 Frail TV star says

00:22:29.720 Dignitas trip out 1.00

00:22:31.100 as she makes 0.96

00:22:34.380 assisted dying bill plea

00:22:35.680 no Esther

00:22:37.860 no

00:22:38.840 why do you want the state

00:22:42.000 to have the power of life and death

00:22:43.440 even more than it does over people

00:22:44.980 you don't see any problems

00:22:46.960 you don't think it's the theory of the witch

00:22:48.000 there's something bigger going on here Esther

00:22:49.940 than you

00:22:50.540 than you 0.98

00:22:53.060 shut up the daily star dame esther is too late for dignitas well oh well oh well 0.76

00:23:03.120 that is quite literally your problem right they're the they're the front page 0.97

00:23:09.360 increasingly frustrating and absurd front pages

00:23:11.700 let's look at our poll shall we we look at our poll this time of the morning

00:23:19.220 Harry if you bring that up for me

00:23:22.520 Yeah we asked you guys

00:23:24.360 Do you believe the official account

00:23:26.080 And the conclusions of the 9-11 commission

00:23:28.600 66% say no

00:23:30.820 Surprising it's as low as that

00:23:33.740 Because I don't

00:23:35.160 66% say no

00:23:36.440 It's obviously a whitewash

00:23:37.620 10% say yes

00:23:40.000 25% say don't know

00:23:42.680 Alright 10% say yes 0.99

00:23:45.260 Gullible sheeple 0.58

00:23:47.140 Get out 0.91

00:23:47.660 Get out 0.99

00:23:48.860 Unquestioning buffoons 0.99

00:23:51.280 Leave 0.97

00:23:52.420 Have you read it?

00:23:54.100 Have I read it?

00:23:54.640 Yeah, big chunks it

00:23:55.980 Yeah, big chunks it

00:23:57.320 Yeah, I have, yeah

00:23:57.900 Yeah

00:23:58.720 The 9-11 commission, yeah

00:24:00.380 Don't go though 0.90

00:24:02.260 Don't get out

00:24:02.700 Don't leave

00:24:03.060 I was joking

00:24:03.940 That's a joke

00:24:04.480 I still love you

00:24:05.120 We can make this work

00:24:06.020 I still love you, baby

00:24:07.740 I just get scared sometimes

00:24:10.620 Don't go

00:24:11.180 Alright

00:24:13.600 There you go

00:24:15.460 Let's talk about it a bit then

00:24:18.860 9-11 25 years ago 25 years ago does not feel like 25 years ago to me i was about 20 19 or 20

00:24:27.460 i was at uni hadn't bothered to get up that day it's a tuesday wasn't it i recall was that right

00:24:35.100 was it a tuesday i was supposed to get up and go to lectures that morning travel from where i lived

00:24:40.680 in essex in havering the london bar of havering in essex travel into central london to the strand

00:24:45.760 to go to lectures, seminars and lectures that morning

00:24:48.280 my undergrad degree in ancient history

00:24:50.920 at King's College London

00:24:51.920 didn't bother

00:24:52.620 didn't bother that day

00:24:54.260 it was going to be some lecture about something

00:24:55.800 I wasn't particularly interested in

00:24:57.080 had no intention of writing an essay about

00:24:58.980 and if it came up as an essay question in the exam

00:25:01.300 wasn't going to pick that one

00:25:02.880 can't remember what it was

00:25:04.300 I have no idea what it was

00:25:05.440 something I just wasn't interested in

00:25:08.160 some bit of ancient history that I was like

00:25:09.740 no, I'm just going to stay in bed today

00:25:11.460 and so it was

00:25:12.300 and so it was in bed

00:25:14.480 i got a call from a very good friend of mine

00:25:17.980 at the time um and he worked he was working my age but he hadn't gone to uni and he'd gone to work

00:25:26.040 so he was working that day and back then um some people had mobile phones but it wasn't everyone

00:25:31.760 had mobile phones and apparently they didn't have a tv in their office but somehow they'd got word

00:25:38.100 one way or another they got word that there was some big terrorist attack happening in new york

00:25:42.020 and it was still playing out now and he rung me up on his work landline rung me up oh no i did

00:25:48.240 have a mobile i did have mobile sorry yeah no yeah i got a mobile in my last year of six from college

00:25:53.320 in like 1998 or 1999 or the year 2000 and i was quite late getting a mobile phone so most people

00:25:59.880 did have mobile phones sorry yeah they were really early ones they weren't smartphones with like a

00:26:03.100 screen you could go on the internet it was just a phone you could do text messages on it that was it

00:26:07.080 anyway anyway he rang me up he was like there's something crazy going on in new york like put

00:26:12.680 the put your telly on right now tell me what's going on tell me what you're seeing so it's like

00:26:16.920 oh okay all right turn the tv on and it was both at that point in the morning both world trade

00:26:23.960 centers had already been hit and it was just all over the news it was one of those days when they

00:26:28.760 stopped normal normal tv coverage and i'm explaining this for people who were too young

00:26:35.080 basically if you're old enough to remember you're like oh yeah i remember i was there i'm sort of 0.86

00:26:38.120 explaining this for zoomers like harry you don't obviously well you weren't born for years yet

00:26:42.200 there'll be lots of zoomers watching this oh i'm just going to talk about it because it's

00:26:45.000 the anniversary of it okay turn the tv on and both the the towers had already been hit by that point

00:26:51.800 i didn't know this i'm only learning there's anything going on about 30 seconds ago so they

00:26:56.920 actually show a replay at the moment i turned the tv on they happened to be showing a replay

00:27:03.000 of the second plane hitting the building and i didn't know any of this and so as i'm watching

00:27:10.040 it i'm just seeing the plane come in and i thought i was watching it live i wasn't it was a replay

00:27:16.120 and i was on the phone to my friend going yeah good one of the world trade centers is on fire

00:27:20.280 yeah it's all on fire it's like a massive there's all smoke coming out it's like a big thing yeah

00:27:24.200 oh my god oh my god another plane just flew in it's not funny i'm not laughing at because it's

00:27:31.400 funny oh my god that's nervous laughter I thought I was watching it in real time yeah it had only

00:27:38.540 happened moments before like a few moments a few minutes five minutes or so before the second one

00:27:43.380 had hit I thought I was watching I couldn't believe it it was like one of the few moments

00:27:47.240 in your life when you're like what did I just see I don't know if you've ever seen an accident in

00:27:51.900 real life like a fatal accident you've ever seen a car crash in real life or anything like that

00:27:56.340 truly horrific in real life for real real and you're just like whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa

00:28:03.040 couldn't believe couldn't believe and anyway it just went on and on and on that day

00:28:09.920 there was the there was the the something flew into the pentagon

00:28:15.860 the pentagon nobody attacks the pentagon right mind-blowing wait what

00:28:24.520 Terrorists have

00:28:26.700 Blown up the Pentagon

00:28:28.820 Obviously they're not going to blow up the whole building

00:28:30.260 Because it's one of the most giant buildings in the whole world

00:28:32.360 But they've attacked the Pentagon

00:28:34.760 It's mind-blowing

00:28:38.880 You can't sort of believe it

00:28:40.820 And then there was reports of another plane

00:28:44.400 Of course coming down in a field in Pennsylvania

00:28:46.940 But if you lived through it

00:28:50.920 You will remember this that day

00:28:52.540 that for the whole day right the way up to like late late afternoon even early evening

00:29:00.880 there were reports and all the news channels every news channel was covering it there were

00:29:06.360 reports all the time there's another plane there's another plane they think there's another plane

00:29:11.060 another plane's going to fly into the White House we've got reports a plane has flown into the

00:29:16.160 White House no sorry that's not true that's not right the whole day was like that there's reports

00:29:19.880 there's a plane going to fly into Wall Street.

00:29:24.580 Oh, no, it hasn't.

00:29:26.080 There's reports of another plane flying into something else in New York.

00:29:30.000 Or whatever, it just went on and on like that.

00:29:32.960 No one knew when it was going to stop.

00:29:35.740 There's reports that there's multiple planes flying around the skies of the United States.

00:29:41.100 Like, ready, when everyone's, like, thought it's over, they'll crash into other stuff.

00:29:49.880 Nobody knew. And then quite quickly as well, those hysteria,

00:29:53.640 is something going to fly into the Eiffel Tower? Is something going to fly into Big Ben?

00:29:57.480 Is something going to fly into all around the world? It was sort of mad. It was surreal,

00:30:03.400 that's the word I would describe. Surreal.

00:30:09.480 No one had ever known anything like it before. Nothing close. Nothing close to it.

00:30:14.760 it was like something out of a movie and i'll build on that theme in a minute look at some

00:30:25.400 of the websites real quick daily mail decides to go with on 9 11 as america was under attack 0.70

00:30:30.600 the order came get every goddamn plane out of the sky 38 of those planes landed at an obscure 0.80

00:30:38.180 airport in newfoundland what followed was humanity at its best they were clubbing together getting 0.99

00:30:44.380 together and helping each other out yeah okay is that the mate is that

00:30:50.300 where hope defied hate is that the most important thing

00:30:54.300 most important aspect of everything that happened that day is it are you effectively lying by omission

00:31:01.820 by going with that deciding to talk about that element of it

00:31:08.700 9 11 our stories

00:31:10.140 Yeah

00:31:13.440 All sorts of accounts

00:31:15.940 There's a great documentary

00:31:17.740 I would say

00:31:18.480 If you're interested in it

00:31:19.680 Oh wait

00:31:22.260 The Express wants to go

00:31:23.140 With something about Harry

00:31:24.000 And The Sun wants to go

00:31:24.920 With something about 1.00

00:31:25.460 Those Middlesbrough people

00:31:26.700 I think this was

00:31:27.620 One of the best things

00:31:28.360 I saw this morning

00:31:29.100 On Sky News

00:31:30.300 Big long piece

00:31:32.180 All about

00:31:32.580 The details of it

00:31:34.420 We'll talk about

00:31:35.360 Well Karen's talking about

00:31:36.320 Just to say

00:31:37.380 Over the years

00:31:39.540 Over the 25 years

00:31:42.240 That have been and gone since that day

00:31:44.640 I have

00:31:46.440 Like a lot of people

00:31:47.360 Read a number of books

00:31:50.660 That have been published about it since

00:31:52.240 Watched loads of documentaries

00:31:54.360 Nearly every documentary I can find

00:31:55.700 Watched loads and loads of lectures

00:31:58.120 I'm also fascinated with

00:32:02.460 George Bush Jr. and the

00:32:04.500 War in Iraq and Afghanistan

00:32:06.120 The War on Terror

00:32:08.080 got many many books about 9-11 and different aspects different elements of it all about

00:32:14.960 bin laden all about the fbi and the cia and the faa book about dick cheney yeah book about

00:32:23.980 richard pearl book about paul wolfowitz book about paul bremer yeah all sorts of angles all

00:32:31.280 sorts of elements can't help myself but as a history nerd right this is history this is part

00:32:37.380 of history of course it'll go down history it'll be remembered a thousand years from now more

00:32:45.540 read quite a lot about it and around it in all sorts of ways

00:32:52.020 fascinated by it in a horrible horrible morbid way because just to reiterate

00:32:57.220 the whole of the human timeline did a tron light cycle boo 90 degree turn in that moment

00:33:07.760 because you knew it was odd you knew at the on the day on the morning within a few moments when

00:33:16.240 you get over the initial shock of what your eyeballs have just seen you're like ah this

00:33:21.460 will change up there's no way the united states doesn't react to this there's no way george bush

00:33:27.940 jr he wasn't a biden type president george bush jr right he was going the united states

00:33:37.540 was going to make big moves after this and you knew it you knew it

00:33:45.060 and you knew that if they would do that to the world trade centers you whoever you are

00:33:50.020 Wherever you are

00:33:51.660 Wouldn't be safe

00:33:52.800 Whoever they were

00:33:55.640 Who committed it

00:33:56.980 We'll talk about that in a moment as well

00:33:58.700 I don't care, I'm not afraid

00:34:00.160 Let's talk about it

00:34:01.960 Let's talk about who it really was

00:34:03.340 What happened there?

00:34:12.300 Okay

00:34:12.740 Clear blue skies

00:34:14.500 They want to do a timeline on Sky News

00:34:16.760 They do a timeline

00:34:17.400 But there's Mohammed Atta, apparently, okay, they go through it, what are they supposed

00:34:25.080 to have happened, these terrorists, and suddenly I'll say, I'll just let you know what I think,

00:34:31.640 take it or leave it. One thing I'll say before I dive into that, if you're young and you don't

00:34:37.800 really know much about it, you've heard about it, you know, somebody has what you don't know,

00:34:40.600 when someone like me talks about my questions and concerns about what happened that day really

00:34:49.140 you get like a lot of things you get a vast spectrum of response to that a vast spectrum

00:34:57.740 of replies you get everything from of course it was a stitch up inside job orchestrated by

00:35:06.900 the united states and perhaps israeli intelligence of course it was that anyone who thinks it wasn't 0.99

00:35:12.900 that has got to be the most naive baby of all time you've got to be so dumb and blind not to think 0.99

00:35:20.500 that right that's one end of the spectrum on the other end of the spectrum you've got people that 0.99

00:35:25.220 say there are no unanswered questions there are no unanswered questions about 9 11. everything

00:35:31.700 that was in the 9 11 commission is exactly correct and there's no more questions to ask

00:35:35.620 anyone that's still asking any questions any about what happened that day how it played out and why 1.00

00:35:42.420 if you've got any questions you're an idiot and a naive baby you've got the mind of a child 1.00

00:35:49.300 all the questions there's nothing left to answer it's all there in black and white 1.00

00:35:52.580 you're just being a conspiracy theorists a conspiracy theorist just get your tinfoil hat out

00:35:58.100 the foot that whole spectrum

00:36:01.700 every now and again in the every now and again on twitter even over the last few years

00:36:08.000 every now and again not even on 9-11 i might post something about 9-11 and here's a question

00:36:11.980 here's something that never really got truly answered properly or not to my satisfaction 0.97

00:36:15.700 and you'll get one or two people on twitter immediately just say you're you're crazy you're

00:36:21.200 a conspiracy theorist all this has been answered there are there are no questions you'll get people

00:36:26.520 that turn up and do that sort of straight away straight away not like if i ever post something

00:36:30.860 about space you'll get one or two anti-space bros turning up immediately saying space is faking gay

00:36:37.720 it's not real can't believe you fell for the nasa psyop on 9-11 if you ever have any questions 0.99

00:36:44.260 people will turn up and say you're being crazy all truthers are crazy i quite liked christopher 0.93

00:36:53.400 Hitchens, right? I quite liked Christopher Hitchens. I didn't necessarily agree with 0.83

00:36:57.260 absolutely every single one of his takes. I liked him. I liked his thinking in various

00:37:04.160 ways. He was one of those people. One of the few things I ever saw Christopher Hitchens

00:37:11.620 do and say, where I was like, that's mad. What are you doing, Christopher? Why are you

00:37:18.080 saying that, Christopher? That doesn't make any sense, Christopher. It's one time, at

00:37:23.040 one lecture somewhere, one Q&A, a truther stood up. A truther stood up, and there was

00:37:29.640 Christopher Hitchens and other people on the stage, after their little debate, probably

00:37:33.040 about religion and atheism. Don't know. A truther stood up and started saying, completely

00:37:37.420 reasonably, started saying, Christopher Hitchens, what are your thoughts and feelings about

00:37:44.480 these questions about on what happened on 9-11 are there are there is there any questions to be

00:37:50.080 answered about xyz right and christopher hitchens of all people someone who's supposed to be priding

00:37:56.900 himself on being ultra reasonable and logical and all that sort of thing sort of ultra

00:38:04.100 logical and interested in what is the truth at all times

00:38:11.000 trying to do away and strip away nonsense and half-truths and superstition and all that's what

00:38:20.160 christopher hitchens was he was that guy right this truth has stood up and christopher hitchens

00:38:25.360 just heckled him down just started talking over him going shut up sit down i'm paraphrasing he's 0.97

00:38:30.360 going, shut up, sit down, boo, you're not welcome here, 0.98

00:38:33.420 just be quiet, get him out, et cetera, et cetera? 0.99

00:38:38.080 Why?

00:38:39.080 Why?

00:38:39.300 Why have truthers ever since been basically stigmatized,

00:38:46.320 been told to shut down, shut up and sit down and be quiet,

00:38:51.600 and you're mad? 0.71

00:38:53.320 Why?

00:38:57.820 It's a valid question, isn't it?

00:39:00.360 People not allowed to ask questions about it

00:39:03.380 Incidentally, to cut to the chase

00:39:07.240 I am of the opinion

00:39:09.140 Look, there's an interesting footprint

00:39:10.880 Look, World Trade Centre 1 and 2

00:39:12.840 They're the really, really tall

00:39:14.160 The Twin Towers

00:39:15.340 The two massive Twin Towers

00:39:17.060 There's the other buildings in the World Trade Centre complex

00:39:20.160 There's World Trade Centre 7

00:39:22.380 Way out there

00:39:23.220 Look, there's World Trade Centre building 6

00:39:26.380 In between 1 and 7

00:39:27.800 hmm okay watch this imagine a world before 9 11 happened if you could imagine now some very very

00:39:39.520 sketchy details reaching us here at sky center important enough to bring to you though at this

00:39:43.360 early stage we believe has crashed into the world trade center in new york that happened within the

00:39:51.060 last few moments no details at this stage as to what sort of plane it is it could well be

00:39:56.500 a large plane we are hearing reports of a 737 not yet confirmed yet although it is a jet

00:40:05.560 more as we have it let's have a look what CBS News is saying our colleagues over in America

00:40:13.700 tip of Manhattan you're looking at the World Trade Center we understand that a plane

00:40:18.700 has crashed into the World Trade Center we don't know anything more than that we don't know if it

00:40:23.140 a commercial aircraft we don't know if it was a private aircraft we have no idea how many were

00:40:28.500 on board or what is what the extent of the injuries are right now unbelievable those towers were so

00:40:37.220 iconic they were the new york skyline those two towers the the the old skyline of new york was

00:40:47.220 was like an iconic silhouette.

00:40:49.560 All you need show is the building skyline,

00:40:54.480 and then two big towers,

00:40:56.060 and then a continued skyline of two buildings,

00:40:58.240 and everyone knew at a glance that's New York.

00:41:02.840 Those two towers were New York.

00:41:09.340 Crazy, a crazy, crazy thing.

00:41:12.220 Well, let me read a little bit

00:41:14.660 from an article i wrote five years ago on the 20th anniversary look 2001 remembering 9-11 by

00:41:22.020 bb dade published on lotusseaters.com five years ago i wrote this i wrote this article

00:41:29.780 but there's george bush jr there sort of non-plussed he was out of the loop wasn't he

00:41:35.960 there's rummy remember rummy donald rumsfeld head of the the pentagon the equivalent of

00:41:44.300 Hegseth nowadays

00:41:45.540 basically

00:41:46.580 Hegseth, got a slightly different title

00:41:49.320 but basically the same guy

00:41:51.060 There's Paul Wolfowitz

00:41:53.000 Who exactly is Paul Wolfowitz?

00:41:55.280 Don't worry about it, don't worry too much about that

00:41:57.560 What sort of things did he write about

00:42:01.620 before 9-11?

00:42:08.420 Did Paul Wolfowitz

00:42:09.700 write about

00:42:10.460 how it would be good

00:42:13.180 I mean Paul Wolfwitz is Jewish by the way

00:42:16.540 Paul Wolfwitz

00:42:18.240 write about how

00:42:20.240 it would be in America's

00:42:22.960 interests and America's

00:42:24.940 allies

00:42:25.400 it would be in their interests 0.99

00:42:28.940 if there was a new Pearl Harbor 0.58

00:42:31.180 incident

00:42:31.860 am I making this up? Do I need a tinfoil hat?

00:42:35.940 Alistair Heath

00:42:36.620 do I need a tinfoil hat to be talking about this sort of stuff

00:42:38.760 or is it a matter of record?

00:42:39.760 the new Pearl Harbor

00:42:43.640 it would be in the United States 0.77

00:42:45.480 interest if they were

00:42:47.560 attacked like they were at Pearl Harbor

00:42:49.140 in some massive and devastating way

00:42:51.440 to give themselves a casus 0.62

00:42:53.600 bella, a reason for war 0.98

00:42:54.960 am I making

00:42:57.800 any of this up?

00:42:58.880 the project for the new American century

00:43:01.380 have I just conjured that out of thin air

00:43:02.980 is that part of figment of my

00:43:04.780 imagination? is that part of my

00:43:07.480 right wing fantasies?

00:43:09.760 The project for the New American Century.

00:43:12.860 Hmm? 0.93

00:43:14.560 A new Pearl Harbor.

00:43:17.360 That's what Paul Wolfowitz wanted and was talking about before 9-11 happened.

00:43:25.720 Am I making that up?

00:43:30.400 No?

00:43:32.580 That's all a matter of record.

00:43:37.120 Paul Wolfowitz there, ladies and gentlemen.

00:43:39.760 Okay, I'll write this article

00:43:42.040 And I'll talk about some other stuff

00:43:45.220 Like some other historical things

00:43:48.280 And what happened to me that day

00:43:49.640 But I'll just skip towards the end

00:43:51.020 Like any good lecturer, a quote from your own book

00:43:55.360 Your own article

00:43:56.400 I'll write this, I think this was interesting

00:44:02.940 Still completely personal today

00:44:04.580 And still exactly how I feel today

00:44:06.200 Five years on from the 20th anniversary in 2001

00:44:09.740 I say, it's difficult, B.B. Dade writes, it's difficult now to express how shocking it was.

00:44:18.780 Nothing remotely like it had happened, had ever happened.

00:44:23.220 It's difficult to explain those too young to remember quite how iconic those two towers were.

00:44:28.420 Their very silhouette was a thing of national pride.

00:44:31.160 The old New York skyline was printed and reprinted everywhere, easily the most iconic skyline in the world.

00:44:37.380 Those two towers were New York.

00:44:39.740 You don't see that skyline reproduced anymore.

00:44:42.680 It has lost the thing that made it instantly recognisable.

00:44:45.940 And beyond that, the events were shocking because of their audacity.

00:44:51.160 The sheer scale of what was happening was difficult to fathom.

00:44:54.660 More and more news just kept pouring in of further attacks.

00:44:57.800 The Pentagon had been attacked.

00:45:02.120 Yeah, they had attacked the Pentagon.

00:45:04.160 Surreal. Surreal.

00:45:05.780 this was really stuff straight out of a rushed tom clancy novel he couldn't read instantly tom

00:45:13.040 clancy did write a novel before 9-11 where someone in his book it was a japanese person

00:45:19.940 trying to get their own back for world war ii japanese person flies a jetliner into the

00:45:24.600 capital building in washington dc it's actually a really good novel it's one of the uh one of the

00:45:31.760 I can't remember the main character's name now

00:45:34.980 where he's got this

00:45:35.580 anyway, anyway, anyway

00:45:37.400 Tom Clancy wrote a novel where that happened

00:45:39.800 there was another thing on 9-11

00:45:41.780 they kept saying

00:45:42.440 a plane's going to crash into the Capitol building

00:45:45.000 one's going to crash into the White House

00:45:47.040 and or the Capitol building

00:45:48.840 obviously he never did

00:45:50.420 but alright

00:45:51.040 it's like something

00:45:52.340 that day it's felt like

00:45:54.020 something out of a rushed Tom Clancy novel

00:45:56.000 it couldn't really be happening

00:45:58.340 could it?

00:45:59.880 and yet it was

00:46:00.740 the news just kept going

00:46:02.680 there was talk for hours and hours

00:46:04.720 that planes were going to fly into the White House

00:46:07.100 or the Capitol building, maybe even Wall Street

00:46:09.060 it was shocking and disturbing

00:46:10.860 on another level too 1.00

00:46:11.980 in the same kind of way that the Zabruda

00:46:14.760 footage is disturbing, that is the

00:46:16.860 footage of John Kennedy

00:46:18.600 getting his head blown off in Dallas in

00:46:20.720 1963, the Zabruda film

00:46:22.920 it's shocking in the same way

00:46:24.820 that footage is shocking

00:46:26.320 because after the immediate

00:46:28.580 wide-eyed spectacle of it

00:46:30.680 having passed, after the initial snap of unreality, when selfishness and self-preservation return

00:46:40.060 to your mind, whoever you are, it becomes clear that they could do that to you. If they're

00:46:49.560 prepared to shoot John Kennedy in the head, they'd shoot you in the head, wouldn't they, 1.00

00:46:55.060 without a moment's contemplation. In a split second they'd shoot you in the head if they 1.00

00:47:00.300 decided they wanted to or needed to they could shoot the president of the america of america in 1.00

00:47:04.920 the head yeah if they could blow up the world trade center they'll blow up you oh yeah oh yeah 0.99

00:47:12.480 it could have been you in one of those planes or working in one of those buildings

00:47:18.920 if they are prepared to incinerate whole floors worth of companies like sink like citibank morgan

00:47:26.520 Stanley, Kata Fitzgerald, Bank of America, and on, and on, and on, then they wouldn't

00:47:31.860 think twice about ending you and everyone you knew. It's true, isn't it? That's true.

00:47:37.120 That's a statement of fact, is it not? If they could shoot President Kennedy in plain 0.98

00:47:42.720 sight, no one is safe. That's what it said. That's what it screamed. We're all targets.

00:47:50.280 20 years later writes bb dade 20 years later it might sound naive to think that this realization

00:48:01.940 was news to most in the west yeah we've got a little bit complacent a little bit someone like

00:48:08.260 fukuyama had said it's the end of history western global liberal democracies had one history the

00:48:15.280 game of history everything's safe now there won't be any more big wars won't be any more

00:48:20.160 giant conflict. A little bit complacent. It may sound naive, but most in the West, that

00:48:31.240 was sort of news to them, that, oh, someone, anyone, terrorists could just kill us, anyone,

00:48:35.400 at any time. Terrorists. The scourge of Islam was unknown, really largely unknown. That 0.96

00:48:46.440 true again if you're young now if you've grown up only in the 21st century or even if he's only a 0.98

00:48:51.400 small child in the late 90s it's almost hard to believe even in the year 2001 islam wasn't really 1.00

00:48:58.760 a thing in our societies much of course there were muslims here of course of course but didn't play 0.85

00:49:03.240 a big part in the fabric of our society at all really at all this is true what i'm about to read

00:49:09.720 here again if you're very young you might not believe or you might think that's an exaggeration

00:49:13.320 Bo's, surely Bo's sort of exaggerating this a bit.

00:49:15.900 No, I swear to God it's true. 1.00

00:49:17.860 Islam practically never impacted day-to-day life. 1.00

00:49:21.620 Most people couldn't tell the difference

00:49:23.460 between a Sikh and a Muslim.

00:49:27.840 In fact, after 9-11, there were a few sort of weird reprisals.

00:49:32.980 And they sometimes would target Hindus or Sikhs.

00:49:38.620 People thought wearing a turban was a Muslim thing.

00:49:43.320 That's how little the average person knew about Islam and Muslims.

00:49:47.840 Men like Osama bin Laden, writes Dade,

00:49:51.560 and his terrorist network were remote and inconsequential things.

00:49:56.860 Most people had never heard of bin Laden.

00:49:59.600 The vast majority of people. 1.00

00:50:02.200 Afghan mujahideen were only in boring BBC2 documentaries 1.00

00:50:06.620 and that one Rambo film. 1.00

00:50:08.320 How had they possibly achieved 0.92

00:50:12.680 Such a set of incredible attacks

00:50:14.500 It's a valid question isn't it

00:50:16.120 How had they possibly achieved such a thing

00:50:18.040 Seems incredible

00:50:21.200 Seems unlikely even doesn't it

00:50:24.540 Dade continues by saying

00:50:29.800 It certainly was curious

00:50:31.560 Strange even

00:50:34.300 Incongruous

00:50:36.900 How have these half-assed mountain boys pulled off this?

00:50:46.600 As I say, something almost too surreal about it all.

00:50:53.680 Like a ghoulish type of show was being put on for the cameras.

00:50:58.520 Not only that it seemed like it was something out of a film, sort of was something out of

00:51:07.240 a film, Dave seems to be arguing in this article.

00:51:13.020 I certainly remember watching the coverage that day and seeing and hearing some curious

00:51:18.600 things.

00:51:24.320 I distinctly remember the breaking news that Muhammad Atta's passport had been found on the street, very close to Ground Zero.

00:51:33.380 Yeah.

00:51:34.920 I see people talk about that, and other people say, no, that's fake, that's fake news, that never happened, you're making that up.

00:51:39.880 I remember it.

00:51:41.300 On 9-11, on the day of 9-11, the BBC is saying, a passport has been found.

00:51:47.080 It appears to belong to somebody called Muhammad Atta.

00:51:50.800 Don't tell me that didn't happen, or that's fake news after the fact.

00:51:53.680 People have AI'd that after the fact

00:51:55.780 No, I remember it on that day

00:51:57.340 It's in my memory banks, it happened

00:51:59.520 They claimed to have found

00:52:02.780 Mohammed Atta's passport

00:52:04.240 On the ground, on the pavement

00:52:06.160 Okay, a bit curious

00:52:10.820 That

00:52:11.320 Odd, Zaid continues

00:52:14.620 Odd, I remember watching

00:52:16.760 Paul Bremer

00:52:17.520 Talk about Paul Bremer, shall we

00:52:19.800 I remember watching Paul Bremer

00:52:21.800 being interviewed just hours after the collapses

00:52:25.540 on TV, American TV

00:52:28.680 and confidently telling everyone 0.99

00:52:32.300 that it was Osama Bin Laden and his evildoers 1.00

00:52:35.740 he seemed very confident in his theory 1.00

00:52:38.140 eerily confident

00:52:40.140 again, I remember that, on the day

00:52:42.900 the towers had fallen down by midday

00:52:45.660 they'd fallen down by 10 or 11am or whatever

00:52:47.940 by midday, US time

00:52:49.740 Paul Bremer

00:52:51.800 Paul Bremer was on TV, American TV that they then, normal British TV, like the BBC, started showing.

00:53:00.720 They beamed round the world, Paul Bremer saying, this is Osama bin Laden.

00:53:06.860 This is Islamic terrorists and it's Osama bin Laden behind this.

00:53:13.200 By midday, by lunchtime on 9-11, US time midday. 0.97

00:53:17.740 very very quickly

00:53:21.480 almost immediately really

00:53:23.540 we're being told

00:53:24.860 that it's Osama bin Laden

00:53:28.120 incidentally 1.00

00:53:30.220 I think that they were genuine Islamic terrorists 0.81

00:53:32.720 in those planes 1.00

00:53:33.380 and whether they were allowed

00:53:35.040 to do what they did is something else

00:53:37.300 talk about who Paul Bremer is in a moment

00:53:40.640 let's get to the crux of it, my opinion 1.00

00:53:42.200 I think they were genuine Islamic terrorists 0.99

00:53:44.360 on those planes 1.00

00:53:44.940 but could have, should have been thwarted

00:53:48.240 by the CIA and the FBI

00:53:49.920 again we know for a matter of fact

00:53:51.880 a matter of fact

00:53:52.920 there's all sorts of books written about this

00:53:54.680 a matter of record

00:53:55.880 that these guys were known to the intelligence services

00:53:58.280 known

00:54:00.480 whatever reason

00:54:05.640 possibly, possibly

00:54:07.540 allowed to carry out that attack

00:54:10.820 let's not even start looking at the FAA

00:54:14.860 and the various war games

00:54:17.780 that were going on that day

00:54:19.260 how

00:54:21.960 the jets weren't scrambled

00:54:24.560 in order to intercept the airliners

00:54:27.360 lots and lots and lots

00:54:29.480 of very very odd and suspicious things

00:54:31.440 anyway

00:54:32.220 Paul Bremer

00:54:33.680 who's Paul Bremer?

00:54:35.900 who is he?

00:54:39.020 well

00:54:39.620 senior diplomat

00:54:42.000 if that's what you want to call him

00:54:43.520 Someone that's absolutely on the inside

00:54:47.300 Of the George Bush Jr

00:54:48.800 And Donald Rumsfeld

00:54:51.400 Dick Cheney

00:54:53.160 Sphere of power

00:54:54.880 Right on the inside of that

00:54:56.300 That's who Paul Bremer is

00:54:57.260 He went on instantly

00:54:59.860 After the war in Iraq

00:55:03.120 A few years later

00:55:05.440 2003

00:55:06.640 After that he went on to be

00:55:08.900 The new ruler of Iraq

00:55:11.640 For a while

00:55:13.260 right after sedan was toppled and there was like a before there were iraqi elections and they

00:55:22.440 elect a new leader of their own for a while there a few years iraq was just controlled

00:55:27.600 governed by the united states right the power on the ground was the u.s army and there was a

00:55:37.780 civilian administration basically controlling iraq saying what the policy is now who was put in

00:55:47.780 charge of that right near the beginning of it for quite a while during sort of the key the key bit

00:55:51.780 of it paul bremer paul bremer he was the one who decided they'd have the debathification of iraq

00:56:02.080 They would do away with any Ba'athist party loyalists

00:56:07.800 In the army, the Iraqi army

00:56:10.420 Iraqi intelligence services

00:56:11.600 And their equivalent of like the civil service and all that

00:56:14.160 A disastrous decision actually 0.63

00:56:17.020 Which led to a real life, a real life sectarian bloodbath 0.87

00:56:21.420 Played out for years and years and years 0.88

00:56:23.500 Paul Bremer, that's who he is

00:56:26.420 Lo and behold, my memory banks

00:56:29.300 hold the memory of one Mr Paul Bremer going on US TV at midday on 9-11 saying it's Bin Laden.

00:56:39.460 Odd, that's odd. He was eerily confident about that. 0.92

00:56:43.760 Let's continue reading the last few paragraphs here.

00:56:46.880 Over those coming hours and even days, the curiosities only seem to mount. 0.82

00:56:53.900 Oh, it's Bin Laden, is it? Okay, we're being told it's Bin Laden by people in the know.

00:56:57.180 okay who is this bin laden i'd heard the name before but didn't know a great deal about his

00:57:02.400 background and everything no not many people did some did he wasn't an unknown entity by any

00:57:07.040 stretch of the imagination bill clinton had been talking about maybe wanting to do a strike or

00:57:11.280 blow up osama bin laden in his terrorist training camps years before this deep into the 90s he

00:57:15.680 wasn't an unknown entity bin laden not exactly household name i'd heard of him before i was

00:57:20.480 only like 19 or 20 years old but i'd heard the name before so oh that bin laden guys behind it

00:57:24.700 Okay, okay, all right. 0.97

00:57:26.400 The guy whose terrorists train on monkey bars, that guy.

00:57:29.280 Oh, is it?

00:57:29.760 Okay, wow, wow, okay.

00:57:31.980 Tell us more, tell us more, what's going on?

00:57:33.400 Who is this guy?

00:57:34.460 But the curiosities only seem to mount, writes Dade.

00:57:40.960 The clarity, the clearness of exactly what happened,

00:57:45.300 of exactly what occurred on that day, September 11th,

00:57:49.240 never seemed to fully reveal itself, at least in my mind.

00:57:52.060 not to my personal satisfaction anyway many unexplained elements which wiki wikipedia

00:57:59.960 and the intelligence services are adamant about calling conspiracy theories still remain unsolved

00:58:07.180 i wrote that in 2001 and it's still the case in 2026 sorry 2021 it still remains the case in

00:58:13.980 2026 on wikipedia they'll have like a 9-11 conspiracy theorists page and actually they're

00:58:21.320 totally legit questions. But they're just conspiracy theorists. There's no more questions

00:58:27.880 here. There's no questions to be asked about it. Well, there bloody well are, and here's

00:58:35.500 some of them. There was the curious case of Flight 93 and the strange crash site in Pennsylvania.

00:58:42.120 Ever seen pictures of that? A giant jetliner, a commercial jetliner, was supposed to have

00:58:49.560 crashed into the ground. They said that, what was it, Todd Beamer said, let's roll. He tried to storm

00:58:55.680 the cockpit and the terrorists, instead of being overpowered, just crashed the plane into the

00:59:01.020 ground. Perhaps they were on their way to the Capitol building or the White House.

00:59:05.440 In order to prevent themselves being overrun and the plane getting back under the control of

00:59:09.940 the goodies, they just crashed the plane straight into the ground, wherever they were. It happened

00:59:14.740 to be over a field in Pennsylvania. Have you seen pictures of that crash site? It doesn't

00:59:19.460 appear to be the crash site of a jumbo jet. I don't know what to tell you. Where did,

00:59:27.920 if it isn't, then where did Flight 93 go? I don't know. There's a question mark, isn't

00:59:33.260 there? They were never able to show, beyond any reasonable doubt, that a jumbo jet crashed

00:59:42.000 in that field in Pennsylvania.

00:59:47.460 Giant Pratt & Whitney jumbo jet engines don't disappear.

00:59:50.960 They don't vaporise upon impact.

00:59:53.960 They don't.

00:59:56.820 Dozens, or is it even hundreds, of flight crash investigators

01:00:01.460 said, well, that's not the crash site of a jumbo jet.

01:00:05.840 A jumbo jet doesn't just disappear.

01:00:07.220 It doesn't burrow into the ground,

01:00:08.700 Leaving the outline of its wings

01:00:11.740 And disappear

01:00:12.560 That's not how that works

01:00:13.760 Even in a marsh

01:00:15.000 Even in a morass

01:00:17.240 That's not how that works

01:00:18.660 But there's no question mark over it, is there?

01:00:27.820 O continues

01:00:28.660 There was the curious case of Building 7

01:00:30.900 And Lucky Larry's opportune insurance policy

01:00:34.240 Yeah, Lucky Larry Silverstein

01:00:36.160 Anyone heard of Larry Silverstein?

01:00:37.420 Lucky Larry, he's very lucky

01:00:39.180 He's very lucky to have taken out

01:00:41.540 A giant insurance policy

01:00:43.700 On the whole World Trade Centre site

01:00:46.440 That insured him against terrorist attack

01:00:48.660 Just months before it happened

01:00:51.960 Lucky Larry, very very lucky man

01:00:55.120 Very lucky man

01:00:57.040 World Trade Centre 7, that's a whole rabbit hole

01:01:03.120 A whole rabbit hole

01:01:07.420 And Lucky Larry said

01:01:08.980 They decided to pull it

01:01:10.240 That's a quote

01:01:11.000 I'm not making that up

01:01:12.220 That's a quote

01:01:12.640 What does that mean

01:01:13.580 Did he mean something slightly different

01:01:14.960 To what he said

01:01:15.960 Who knows

01:01:17.240 It's odd that

01:01:19.400 World Trade Centre Building 7

01:01:20.880 Did seem to just

01:01:22.080 Collapse into its own footprint

01:01:23.720 Hours and hours and hours

01:01:25.740 And hours after

01:01:26.400 It was heavily damaged

01:01:27.960 I won't deny that

01:01:29.040 That building was heavily damaged

01:01:30.580 By one of the falling

01:01:32.260 Bigger towers

01:01:33.040 Like World Trade Centre 1

01:01:34.780 Was it

01:01:35.140 Nonetheless

01:01:36.640 sort of folded in the middle

01:01:38.800 and fell down into its own footprint

01:01:40.180 hours and hours after

01:01:41.680 oh and the BBC reported

01:01:44.640 that it had fallen down before it had

01:01:46.380 yeah

01:01:50.860 what was in World Trade Centre

01:01:52.600 Building 7 actually

01:01:53.480 what other companies and buildings and documents

01:01:56.160 and records were held

01:01:58.620 in Building 7

01:01:59.540 Perhaps look into that in your own time

01:02:08.220 What that was all about

01:02:09.480 What things were held in building 7

01:02:16.540 Which might have been better

01:02:20.980 If they were never found and or destroyed

01:02:22.920 From a certain point of view

01:02:24.380 I'll leave it at that

01:02:25.760 It's a massive rabbit hole

01:02:26.840 You go down that one in your own time

01:02:28.420 I'll be here all morning

01:02:29.300 Dade continues in this article saying

01:02:33.440 There was a curious case of the Pentagon's security cameras

01:02:37.340 Not working as well as expected

01:02:39.100 You would think, wouldn't you, that the Pentagon

01:02:42.960 Would be heavily surveilled

01:02:46.560 That there would be dozens, maybe hundreds of CCTV cameras

01:02:51.100 All around the Pentagon, from every different angle

01:02:54.240 You would think that, wouldn't you?

01:02:59.300 And so, footage of the jumbo jet flying into the side of it

01:03:03.420 would have it from loads of different angles,

01:03:06.400 or at least one angle, clear bit of footage,

01:03:10.380 or maybe from the things surrounding it.

01:03:13.960 For example, I know, like petrol stations in and around the Pentagon.

01:03:19.940 Because the Pentagon sits in the middle of the city,

01:03:21.460 not the middle of the city, but it's not right out in the middle of nowhere,

01:03:26.640 the pentagon it's like in this what i suppose would you say the suburbs the outskirts roughly

01:03:31.360 of dc anyway there's all sorts of things around it motorways petrol stations all sorts of stuff

01:03:38.320 maybe one of those would have caught a clear bit of footage of a jumbo jet flying into it nope

01:03:45.360 or if they did the fbi took them all away and impounded them and have never released them to

01:03:48.960 this day we've got is a tiny bit of grainy footage with a few frames that appear to show something

01:03:56.000 flying into it and if this is all new to you and you think bo what are you talking about

01:04:01.600 surely you're misrepresenting the the record there surely that can't be the case yeah it is yeah

01:04:11.520 lots of people said the the physics of that flight path of that plane that's supposed to

01:04:15.840 have flown into the pentagon doesn't make sense professional pilots saying that's an extreme

01:04:21.360 manoeuvre for a Boeing

01:04:22.740 whatever the giant airliner it was

01:04:25.220 an extreme manoeuvre

01:04:27.280 it would be very very very difficult for anyone

01:04:29.280 to pull off let alone someone that's only had a few flying

01:04:31.460 lessons on a Cessna or wherever it was

01:04:33.600 the physics of

01:04:36.980 the resulting

01:04:38.780 destruction at the Pentagon

01:04:40.520 doesn't seem

01:04:42.180 to add up but yet there's

01:04:44.720 some wreckage

01:04:47.300 of

01:04:47.680 commercial airliner fuselage

01:04:51.320 on the green, on the grass, outside the Pentagon.

01:04:57.940 So what is going on there?

01:04:59.940 What happens?

01:05:00.280 It's just a curious case to me.

01:05:02.100 Still a bit curious.

01:05:02.800 I just do still feel like there are one or two questions

01:05:05.320 left to be answered about exactly what happened at the Pentagon

01:05:08.680 on September the 11th in the year 2001.

01:05:11.880 That's all.

01:05:12.420 I've just still got a few question marks about it.

01:05:16.620 Okay.

01:05:17.320 Bo goes on to say,

01:05:18.060 there was the curious case of something molten pouring pouring from the towers before they

01:05:24.900 collapsed pouring out molten and reports of lots more molten steel lots more rivers of it

01:05:33.060 in the basement and the footprint of the collapsed towers after they've come down

01:05:38.440 people go down there there's sort of rivers of molten metal down there that's strange isn't it

01:05:45.040 writes Dade. What about the curious case of Ground Zero not being forensically studied

01:05:50.660 and all the steel spirited away and recycled? That is curious, isn't it? Because that's

01:05:56.300 a crime scene, isn't it? Right, after that, a giant crime scene. You would think that

01:06:01.300 the authorities would be forensically trying to... Sorry, one moment. Harry, can you ask

01:06:09.760 someone to turn off the hoover, they're hoovering out there. Do you mind? Thanks. Sorry, I don't

01:06:17.700 know if that's coming up on the mic or not, but that's distracting me. Right. That's a

01:06:27.400 crime scene, isn't it? 9-11 there. You would think, a bit like, I don't know, say like

01:06:33.580 Lockerbie

01:06:34.420 They take Lockerbie

01:06:36.100 What they did is they scoured

01:06:38.160 Scoured everywhere, every tiny little bit

01:06:41.060 Every tiny square inch

01:06:43.060 Of the Lockerbie crash site

01:06:44.260 And picked up every tiny little thing they could

01:06:47.000 Every tiny

01:06:49.060 Tiny little scrap they could

01:06:50.640 And reconstructed the whole plane

01:06:52.460 In a hangar somewhere

01:06:53.360 Every tiny bit, and they reconstructed the whole plane

01:06:56.440 So that they could see

01:06:58.660 They just went through it with a fine tooth comb

01:07:00.660 As finer tooth of comb as they possibly could

01:07:02.840 To find out exactly what went wrong

01:07:04.680 Every tiny piece of physical evidence

01:07:06.760 Is like gold dust

01:07:08.360 None of that happened on 9-11

01:07:11.800 None of it

01:07:12.940 They just cleared it all up

01:07:15.940 And shipped it out to some island

01:07:17.500 Off New York

01:07:18.580 Where it was kept for a while

01:07:19.580 And then shipped off to China

01:07:21.160 Where it was recycled

01:07:21.960 That's evidence

01:07:23.740 All of that was evidence

01:07:26.920 Extremely odd and suspicious to me

01:07:31.100 That that was how that was dealt with

01:07:32.380 I'm curious about that

01:07:34.860 So independent third party investigators

01:07:41.820 Had no, at least that

01:07:43.880 Had no opportunity to

01:07:45.420 Forensically test

01:07:47.040 Some of the girders and things

01:07:49.360 Just what the 9-11 commission tells you

01:07:54.540 And they tell you there's nothing to see here

01:07:56.300 It just is what it is

01:07:57.900 Odd

01:08:00.140 okay how about the curious case of the 9 11 commission completely failing to address

01:08:09.760 vital questions yeah how about that how about them apples yeah the 9 11 commission that george bush

01:08:16.560 and dick cheney did everything in their power not to have to answer any questions for but in the end

01:08:21.080 just completely failing to address just lying by omission just completely failing to address

01:08:28.260 some very, very, very serious questions about the physics of the whole thing.

01:08:36.080 Lots of architects and engineers have said over the years,

01:08:38.900 lots of them experts,

01:08:41.220 that the physics of it doesn't really add up properly.

01:08:45.840 A building like that with steel girders

01:08:48.400 shouldn't just start pancaking itself down into its own footprint.

01:08:51.380 That's odd.

01:08:53.260 No other building like it has ever done anything like that, ever.

01:08:56.140 but the 9-11 commission says that's what happened that's the end of the story and we'll lie by

01:09:02.160 omission about loads of other questions people have got just not address it oh right great okay

01:09:06.700 i find that curious and there still is beau continues and there still is of course the

01:09:12.500 curious case of the so-called truthers being roundly stigmatized and ridiculed and largely

01:09:17.560 silenced all very suspicious even here now i must bite my tongue and veil the depths of my suspicions

01:09:24.780 lest the globalist establishment turn their eye of Sauron in this direction.

01:09:31.500 Can't really go into the full details of my suspicions.

01:09:35.480 Because probably get in trouble, or might certainly get in trouble.

01:09:38.180 Would get this channel in trouble.

01:09:42.700 Okay, I conclude this by saying,

01:09:45.440 a terrible, terrible crime was committed against civilisation itself that day.

01:09:49.860 The full ramifications of which are still playing out.

01:09:53.200 Much like the JFK assassination, unfortunately, it seems as though there are vested interests

01:09:58.260 who don't want the full undiluted truth to emerge.

01:10:01.960 September the 11th is a nasty boil that just won't heal.

01:10:07.600 It is scar tissue whose blemishes will never disappear.

01:10:12.020 It is a wound whose trauma can only be assuaged by truth,

01:10:16.380 the only salve which has still not yet been applied.

01:10:19.540 Well, I wrote that five years ago and I feel exactly the same to this day.

01:10:22.640 probably people in the comments or the chat even right now saying I was out of his mind

01:10:30.280 crazy conspiracy theorist there you go there you have it that's what I think that's how I feel

01:10:36.660 25 years ago to this day if I'm not going to talk about it today probably never will so there you go

01:10:43.780 let's move on to on this day in history they talk about it of course

01:10:53.460 september the 11th down through the centuries nay the millennia what happened of note

01:10:58.220 on this day in 1297 is the battle of sterling bridge scottish rebel william wallace of brave

01:11:04.980 heart fame defeats the english yeah do you think i've got long film content all about the age of

01:11:09.400 Edward Longshanks, Edward I, on Bo Dade's Epochs, my history theme show behind the paywall,

01:11:14.160 do consider signing up for as little as £5 a month's bronze team membership, a body of work

01:11:18.620 built up over five years, quite literally and without exaggeration, hundreds and hundreds and

01:11:23.040 hundreds of hours of content there. Do you think I'll talk about Edward I and therefore William

01:11:30.140 Wallace? Yes, it's all there. Stirling Bridge, whenever an Englishman and Scotsman start

01:11:36.020 bantering about who beat who in battles, the Scotsman will almost certainly bring up Stirling

01:11:40.800 Bridge. We always have to counter with Culloden and the Scotsman goes quiet. But nonetheless,

01:11:47.520 many years later, Culloden, of course, Stirling Bridge, a smashing victory for the Scots,

01:11:52.880 for the Scots against the English. Got to give it to them. Yep, they got a good jab in. 0.85

01:11:56.600 Well done, well done. Got to give them credit. Okay, on this day in 1609, an expulsion order

01:12:05.140 is issued against the Moriscos of Valencia, beginning the expulsion of all the Spanish

01:12:21.300 Moriscos who are former Muslims and their descendants. So getting towards the end of

01:12:29.300 of the Reconquista there.

01:12:31.720 Spain wanting to rid itself 1.00

01:12:33.020 of its Muslim scourge. 1.00

01:12:37.960 Okay, on this day in 1697, 1.00

01:12:39.780 the Battle of Zenta,

01:12:40.820 the Holy League forces

01:12:41.720 led by Prince Eugenie of Savoy.

01:12:44.020 I'll talk all about him

01:12:44.960 when I get up to the Oliver Cromwell days.

01:12:47.360 I'll talk all about Eugenie of Savoy.

01:12:49.180 Oh, no, wait, he was in the...

01:12:51.300 Sorry, now I've got that wrong.

01:12:53.140 I do already talk about

01:12:54.580 Eugenie of Savoy

01:12:57.120 in the stuff I talk about,

01:12:58.940 The Battle of Blenheim

01:12:59.700 Got long form content

01:13:01.180 All about the Battle of Blenheim

01:13:02.200 Which is like what

01:13:03.360 1704 is it

01:13:04.700 1705

01:13:05.340 Off the top of my head

01:13:06.060 If memory serves

01:13:07.340 Prince Eugenie of Savoy

01:13:09.680 Was involved in all of that

01:13:10.640 Sorry 0.87

01:13:11.080 Not Gromero

01:13:11.860 Not the Civil War 0.88

01:13:13.300 Okay

01:13:15.280 But in this battle

01:13:16.960 On behalf of the

01:13:19.180 The Holy League 0.98

01:13:20.280 Battle of Zenta 0.97

01:13:21.540 He beats the 0.94

01:13:22.740 Ottoman army 0.63

01:13:23.600 Under Mustafa II

01:13:24.900 Ending Ottoman control

01:13:27.220 Over large parts of Central Europe 0.98

01:13:28.680 thank god they got as far as vienna didn't they a couple of times cheeky that's pushing back

01:13:35.800 all right on this day in 1708 the great northern war charles the 12th of sweden stops his march to

01:13:42.220 conquer moscow outside smolensk the turning point in that war we've talked about the great northern

01:13:47.480 war before haven't we once or twice on this on this on this day in history i think we have

01:13:51.940 yeah he only got as far as smolensk have we if we talked about it before

01:13:57.020 Anyway

01:13:58.480 On this day in 1916

01:14:00.720 The first true self-service supermarket

01:14:02.880 Clarence Sanders' Piggly Wiggly

01:14:05.780 Opens in Memphis, Tennessee

01:14:08.300 1916

01:14:09.420 And there's a picture of it

01:14:11.420 Interesting

01:14:14.020 Alright

01:14:14.620 And then they do 9-11

01:14:16.040 Three different factoids

01:14:17.180 On this day

01:14:18.200 In the year 2001

01:14:19.420 Passengers and crew

01:14:20.720 Of United Airline Flight 93

01:14:23.220 Attempt to retake control

01:14:25.400 Of the hijacked plane

01:14:26.620 by terrorists, Todd Beamer, let's roll,

01:14:29.520 causing the plane to crash in a Pennsylvania field,

01:14:33.060 killing all 44 people on board.

01:14:38.460 Did it crash in that field in Pennsylvania?

01:14:42.880 On this day in 2001, terrorists hijack a passenger plane

01:14:46.240 and crash it into the Pentagon, killing 125 people.

01:14:52.460 Did it? Was it a jetliner that crashed into the Pentagon?

01:14:54.880 something did, something definitely did

01:14:56.960 was it that

01:14:58.980 jetliner

01:14:59.660 ok and on this day in 2001

01:15:03.120 two passenger planes hijacked

01:15:04.940 by al-Qaeda terrorists

01:15:06.380 crashed into New York's World Trade Center

01:15:08.520 towers causing the collapse of both

01:15:11.000 and the deaths of 2,606

01:15:13.100 people

01:15:13.440 alright, alright, talked all about it

01:15:16.320 let's do our rumble rants and super chats

01:15:20.600 today, let's do this with my

01:15:22.900 mic boom so I can see the left hand side of my screen

01:15:24.860 is global church history going to be in at number one

01:15:27.240 no he's not all

01:15:28.820 he's been pipped and he's been pipped by someone

01:15:30.840 who isn't global Jewish history 0.88

01:15:32.440 acid helm 0.52

01:15:34.340 Mr acid helm

01:15:35.540 he's done it he got up early in the morning

01:15:38.740 he's pipped

01:15:41.060 global church history

01:15:42.300 by seven minutes

01:15:44.040 acid helm in at 38 minutes

01:15:46.840 past six in the morning

01:15:48.060 he got to get up early in the morning quite literally 0.81

01:15:51.100 to beat global church history

01:15:52.840 but acid helm only bloody well did

01:15:54.720 all right well he says morning folks hope you all have a good weekend recently watched the

01:16:03.920 secret hitler video on the website was really funny should do it again with all the main lads

01:16:08.980 okay i didn't know i didn't know what that was is that uh harry harry little harry remind me is that

01:16:18.780 was that a lad's hour recently that i just wasn't on did you yeah yeah okay okay so sorry

01:16:24.460 acid helm i don't i didn't watch it if i'm not on a lads hour i'm probably not going to watch it

01:16:29.660 myself it's always on a friday isn't it a lads hour i usually because i come in early i get to

01:16:36.780 go home early whilst they're doing a lads hour if i'm not on it when they're doing a lads hour

01:16:41.900 i'm going home at that point so i haven't seen that if you said it was funny and we should do

01:16:46.700 it again with the main lads maybe maybe we will and vaguely where was it one of dan's ones dan

01:16:53.260 tubs concepts he's quite good at coming up with funny and or interesting ideas for lads there

01:16:58.000 isn't he all right all right the next one is global church history in at number two down one place to

01:17:02.660 two global church history says this sunday at 7 33 a.m and 29 minutes past 7 p.m my interview

01:17:16.700 will air on BBC Radio Wales

01:17:18.940 this Sunday, this Sunday guys

01:17:20.820 so check it out

01:17:23.380 check it out

01:17:24.600 this Sunday, I said I'd give it a plug so I'm doing that

01:17:27.180 now yeah, ok, half past 7 in the morning

01:17:29.300 half past 7 in the evening

01:17:31.380 BBC Radio Wales

01:17:33.340 if you want to hear Global Church History

01:17:35.300 talking

01:17:35.740 get on it, do it

01:17:39.480 Global Church History, if you can clip that

01:17:41.360 put it on Twitter, at me

01:17:43.460 and I'll retweet it for you

01:17:45.020 How about that, can't say fair in that

01:17:47.620 Not that my Twitter account is gigantic

01:17:49.120 But it's not nothing

01:17:50.400 I wonder if I've got 30,000 is it

01:17:53.540 35,000

01:17:54.480 It's 35,000

01:17:56.720 Better than nothing

01:17:57.980 Happy to do that for you sir

01:18:00.140 Alright, Global Church History also does

01:18:02.580 Two factors for us

01:18:06.120 So what have we got here today

01:18:06.920 He says, on this day in 9 AD

01:18:09.380 The battle of the

01:18:10.980 Teutoburg Forest ended

01:18:12.680 that'll be at the end of the reign of augustus i think i've got long-form content all about the

01:18:19.020 reign of augustus oh yeah behind the paywall on locustus.com more than once i talk about the

01:18:25.660 reign of augustus one of my favorite figures from history the teutoburg forest yeah anyone

01:18:31.780 has anyone ever seen derrick jacobie's eye claudius well robert graves is eye claudius

01:18:37.140 with Derek Jacoby as Claudius

01:18:38.720 and Brian Blessed as Augustus

01:18:41.520 Varus where are my eagles

01:18:46.280 yep that's my Brian Blessed

01:18:49.860 that's Bo doing Brian Blessed

01:18:53.300 doing Augustus

01:18:54.580 he lost his eagles

01:18:56.460 his military standard the eagles

01:18:58.320 in the Teutoburg Forest

01:18:59.680 and he wanted them back 0.59

01:19:00.580 Varus the general

01:19:01.840 had lost Augustus the eagles

01:19:03.380 and Brian Blessed

01:19:04.660 stroke Augustus wants them back

01:19:06.220 okay could go on and on and on about that but i'm gonna move on second factor this morning is

01:19:12.980 on this day in h13 a.d uh louis the pious was made co-emperor so that's the son of um

01:19:22.840 charlemagne isn't it yeah that's right isn't it

01:19:28.940 charlemagne's son charlemagne wanted is that right i've got this terribly wrong i think so yeah

01:19:34.780 off the top of my head wanted to have a good succession yeah that's right charlemagne to his

01:19:41.600 son louis the pious had a relatively good succession but then it was louis the pious's

01:19:46.340 sons that were rebellious like henry ii's sons his brood of rebellious sons so yeah charlemagne

01:19:57.040 made his son co-emperor before he charlemagne was even dead again fascinating bit of history

01:20:02.300 there fascinating okay the next rumble round is from buzz all gin not buzz ordering buzz all gin

01:20:13.260 like the drink gin buzz all gin it's quite funny it says it's obvious the state's aim is to weaken

01:20:21.140 the people's morale and submit us to accepting our fate endless cost increases on the basics

01:20:26.400 Many of which could be avoided

01:20:27.920 Aimed to destroy our spirit

01:20:30.500 Yeah, I can believe that

01:20:32.180 I'm not sure if that's

01:20:32.820 Yeah, I mean

01:20:33.760 It feels like that, doesn't it?

01:20:35.300 Let's put it that way

01:20:35.700 It feels like that

01:20:36.600 In all sorts of ways

01:20:38.380 It feels like that

01:20:39.260 Trying to demoralise us

01:20:42.760 And break our spirit

01:20:43.480 Just not acting in our interests

01:20:45.960 Again and again and again and again

01:20:47.500 Almost at all times

01:20:48.660 From a hundred different vectors at once

01:20:50.820 Our own government, yeah

01:20:52.940 Feels like that

01:20:56.400 Buzz Aldrin says, it's obvious that that's the case.

01:20:59.800 I mean, I'm not going to disagree with you.

01:21:03.800 All right, TomRat247 says,

01:21:06.860 I was at uni, I was at uni, but I was working at Debenhams at the time.

01:21:13.740 I guess on 9-11, are you talking about?

01:21:16.400 I just sat and watched the big TV in the ground floor men's section,

01:21:20.580 aghast and horrified.

01:21:21.840 Yeah, yeah, I remember it really quite clearly.

01:21:26.400 Just sitting there all day

01:21:28.360 All day long

01:21:29.920 Just glued to the TV

01:21:31.520 Because they were doing 24 hour footage

01:21:35.160 Coverage of it

01:21:36.780 Just sitting there

01:21:38.260 Just couldn't

01:21:38.800 It was like something else

01:21:42.480 Something else

01:21:43.040 Crazy

01:21:43.940 Again I've used the word surreal haven't I a number of times

01:21:46.760 That's the best word for it

01:21:48.680 In my feeling

01:21:50.260 Okay Forteen Barber says

01:21:52.640 Morning mate alright

01:21:53.660 Yeah I'm alright

01:21:54.480 Not too bad

01:21:55.280 Hope you are sir

01:21:56.000 you've put

01:21:56.900 never forget

01:21:58.980 never forget

01:22:01.620 B 0.55

01:22:02.020 never forget

01:22:03.300 B

01:22:03.660 did you see

01:22:04.380 Williams F1

01:22:05.400 are doing the 0.98

01:22:06.160 Bin Laden paint job

01:22:07.380 this weekend

01:22:07.980 don't know what

01:22:09.920 I know there's a

01:22:11.260 Formula 1 race

01:22:12.660 this weekend

01:22:13.100 in Madrid

01:22:13.780 isn't it

01:22:14.280 I think it's Madrid

01:22:15.200 which is new

01:22:17.120 to the F1 calendar

01:22:17.980 isn't it

01:22:18.540 it's like a really

01:22:20.040 big bank

01:22:20.640 bank corner

01:22:21.740 they're doing

01:22:24.640 Williams are doing

01:22:25.800 a bin laden paint job this weekend i don't know what you're talking about i don't know what you

01:22:29.920 mean sure you're not actually putting like bin laden face i don't know what you mean okay you

01:22:36.500 also put i remember where i was when the plane crashed crashed it was surreal have a good

01:22:44.080 weekend ahead yeah please thanks thanks guy thanks dude appreciate it you too you too all right that's

01:22:51.140 the last rumble round let's have a look at the super chats harry you need to bring the youtube

01:22:54.760 super chat's up on my screen can you make it so engaged there they are all right there's a fair

01:22:59.180 few there's over 20 here let's get through them the first one's for a fair bit of money from

01:23:04.400 irwin romulus met him in real life thank you sir appreciate that very generous of you you've put

01:23:08.600 on this day in 2001 five men apparently you've written five men apparently of urban moving

01:23:18.600 Systems, New York City, that's Urban Moving Systems, held a perfectly innocent dance-off

01:23:26.060 near the Doric Towers in New Jersey. Some guys started dancing whilst watching 9-11 play

01:23:35.680 out in the middle of New York from afar. They started dancing. They were arrested, held

01:23:42.880 for 71 days, then deported. Don't look into it. That would be anti-Semitic. Yeah. Don't

01:23:53.400 look into that. Don't go down that rabbit hole. You'd have to be an anti-Semite. So

01:24:01.980 in the name of T's and C's.

01:24:06.440 I say don't look into that.

01:24:11.100 Okay.

01:24:13.340 Richard Bucknam 9703 said,

01:24:16.860 just wanted to thank you for your show.

01:24:18.480 I used to watch Scott Adams in the morning

01:24:20.940 until his untimely demise.

01:24:25.000 And Hush Tones, save politics,

01:24:27.660 is my Sunday afternoon pleasure.

01:24:29.780 Oh, thank you.

01:24:30.820 Yeah.

01:24:30.920 Do check out my other channels

01:24:33.020 Alright, I've got

01:24:37.320 State of Politics there with Nate, MrHReviews

01:24:39.680 And I've also got

01:24:41.120 HistoryBro

01:24:43.400 Which is just me

01:24:44.760 My old history stuff

01:24:46.360 There's no paywall

01:24:49.180 You want like

01:24:51.600 5 hours of me talking about Hannibal

01:24:53.440 Or 5 hours of me talking about Alexander the Great

01:24:55.360 For example, 9 hours of me talking

01:24:57.560 About Mao Zedong, for example

01:24:59.380 And on and on

01:25:00.920 check out history bro there's no there's no payable there it's all free all right

01:25:06.280 short several hours of me talking about the young starlin not his time as dictator just his his

01:25:11.400 childhood and his young life his formative years when he was in his 19 when he when he was in his

01:25:15.640 20s as a very young man interesting that well there's hours of it on history bro for free

01:25:21.640 all right and and much much more all right next one here what have we got

01:25:26.040 Kiefer Brown 1337 says

01:25:29.640 On this day in 2001

01:25:31.680 It's an Eamon Holmes joke

01:25:35.580 He's done an Eamon Holmes joke

01:25:36.720 Alright I'll read it out

01:25:38.700 On this day in 2001

01:25:40.660 Eamon Holmes returned home

01:25:42.900 Following the completion of a personal passion project

01:25:46.020 Conducted chiefly from Afghanistan

01:25:48.300 Just to explain that

01:25:51.060 Eamon Holmes is completely innocent

01:25:52.740 I once made a blooper on this show

01:25:54.740 where I was talking about the crimes of Hugh Edwards

01:25:56.560 but I said Eamon Holmes

01:25:58.200 and now it's an in-joke on this channel

01:26:01.500 that Eamon Holmes is guilty of terrible crimes

01:26:04.000 that he definitely, obviously isn't.

01:26:07.060 That's an in-joke.

01:26:09.120 Poor, innocent Eamon Holmes

01:26:10.620 who's really done nothing wrong that we know of

01:26:12.400 and he's actually suffering from some serious

01:26:14.920 really, really serious health issues.

01:26:19.300 And he's now the butt of a joke.

01:26:21.900 A well-meaning joke, of course.

01:26:23.120 if there's such a thing

01:26:24.780 on this channel

01:26:25.520 that he does things

01:26:26.960 he's guilty of crimes

01:26:27.960 he obviously isn't

01:26:29.380 because I once

01:26:30.620 confused him with Hugh Edwards

01:26:32.000 people joke that he

01:26:35.500 is responsible for crimes

01:26:37.340 that happened centuries ago

01:26:38.640 right

01:26:39.140 it doesn't have to make any sense really

01:26:40.580 well there you go

01:26:42.180 Kiefer Brown went there on 9-11

01:26:43.960 he went there

01:26:45.340 alright

01:26:47.780 it is

01:26:48.800 it is kind of funny

01:26:50.100 alright

01:26:50.940 Mr Gently Benevolent said

01:26:52.760 any chance we'll stop hearing about

01:26:56.420 okay you okay i'm gonna this borderline i'm gonna make a decision not to read that one out

01:27:08.020 because of t's and c's

01:27:09.820 it's my job not to get this channel in trouble in terms of t's and c's

01:27:15.620 so i'm not gonna read that one out sorry mate sorry

01:27:19.760 all right next one cg man says i'm going crazy over this china discourse on chagos

01:27:27.440 do people realize mauritius is effectively an indian protectorate hosts an indian military base

01:27:33.560 and about 70 percent of mauritians are ethnic indians

01:27:37.900 it's interesting i did know obviously it's like much closer to india isn't it than china just on

01:27:43.600 the map, of course. And they're Muslim, isn't it? Mauritius is a Muslim country. But I've

01:27:50.640 just, I've heard, I've seen it in a number of places, saying that the Mauritian government

01:27:55.360 has been given loads and loads and loads of aid by China, not by India, and that therefore

01:28:00.680 if they're in anyone's pocket, it's China, regardless of the ethnic makeup of the relatively

01:28:06.180 small population of them. Is that not the case? You correct me, CJ, ma'am. Is it not

01:28:13.300 that China, because China goes around the world, doesn't it? A bit like Cold War style 0.92

01:28:17.100 in a way. Giving lots and lots and lots of infrastructure and money and aid and building

01:28:21.140 to all different places around the world to get them to be on side with China. Didn't

01:28:25.380 they do that? Haven't they done that to Mauritius? Is that not the case? Even though they're

01:28:28.220 mostly more Indian people than Chinese people. I don't think anyone thinks Mauritian people

01:28:32.840 are like Chinese. It's to do with money and infrastructure, isn't it? Is that not why

01:28:40.400 people say that about Mauritius? Okay. Hellbadger84 says, Paul Merton, or the woke comedian Paul

01:28:53.700 Merton. Oh, we used to do Room 101. Okay. But Paul Merton says, Sobo, what are you putting

01:29:01.120 into Room 101? Well, Paul, I'm not becoming a hated minority living a sectarian nightmare

01:29:09.160 in our one and only ancestral homeland. 0.94

01:29:13.780 So I'll choose Africa.

01:29:17.720 Okay.

01:29:20.120 I go on the TV show Room 101, hosted by Paul Mern, 0.86

01:29:25.220 and I choose to put in Room 101, Africa,

01:29:30.960 according to Hellbadger84. 0.73

01:29:33.100 Okay.

01:29:34.240 Quite funny.

01:29:35.120 Let's keep going.

01:29:36.940 Cyberchud2077 says,

01:29:39.160 We can all be grateful that so many lives were saved

01:29:42.720 Through being notified before the event

01:29:44.540 Using the Israeli Ogidu Messenger app

01:29:47.680 Is there something there?

01:29:50.420 Is there? I can't remember

01:29:51.360 People can look into that in their own time

01:29:54.540 I've got to whip through these

01:29:56.080 People will be that's part of the conspiracy

01:29:58.300 Bo is scared

01:30:00.060 That's why he's whipping through these

01:30:01.600 Okay, Tatum2733

01:30:03.840 If my book was fun fiction

01:30:06.540 I just asked you to read a chapter

01:30:08.860 but since it's a bit tedious and intellectual I stake you reading one on a huge world event lol

01:30:15.660 oh that was from yesterday where Tatum said if he won our little wager or his wager about the oil

01:30:21.760 prices I need to read a chapter of his book okay that's what that is Shoney C said growth in every

01:30:27.640 podcast and hope in every heart okay thanks Shoney C Mr Gently Benevolent again said this

01:30:34.360 dade fellow you're reading knows his stuff yeah it's good check out bb dade on lotus eaters.com

01:30:40.620 there's quite a lot of articles he's written over the years they're all great great insights great

01:30:46.300 prose as well he's a wordsmith he's good at writing he's good graham p booth says why haven't

01:30:55.420 you change the bus behind you yet that's up to harry uh i i know i didn't do anything this is

01:31:06.340 all harry i didn't i don't make thumbnails i don't do anything technical this harry created this it's

01:31:12.700 it's coming soon it's just taking longer than uh than i thought it would

01:31:16.340 There you go, there's the answer to that

01:31:19.980 There's the answer to that

01:31:21.440 Every day

01:31:23.340 Graham P. Booth says

01:31:25.100 Every day my disappointment sting

01:31:27.100 After that fella sent you the new one

01:31:29.300 Little Harry

01:31:32.420 Let's make it happen

01:31:33.920 Light a fire under it, let's get it done

01:31:36.080 For the sake of Graham P. Booth's

01:31:38.900 Disappointment sting, if nothing else

01:31:40.580 Let's do it

01:31:42.320 Okay

01:31:42.760 Thomas Glyndour

01:31:45.700 glindauer tomos glindauer says the problem with the truth of community is it's infested with 1.00

01:31:54.360 wacky q anon types that's true actually some of them do have yeah okay that's true um uh that 1.00

01:32:01.540 poison the well and make genuine questions sound crazy that's absolutely true that's a fair and 1.00

01:32:06.080 good and valid point as well you try and ask genuine valid questions which anyone in their

01:32:11.860 right mind would concede are a valid question and someone else comes in it was a heat death ray from

01:32:16.800 from outer space or whatever yeah the q and on types that's that's also a suspicious that's 0.50

01:32:26.080 what intelligence services do they come in they muddy the waters crazily like the jfk assassination

01:32:30.940 you've got a very very specific set of legit questions they've got concerns about and then

01:32:37.220 It gets flooded by truly bizarre and crazy other stories

01:32:41.440 Who's planting all that misinformation?

01:32:43.980 True misinformation and disinformation

01:32:45.980 About some sort of crazy advanced

01:32:52.460 Ray weapon from outer space

01:32:56.680 Why are you muddying the waters with that?

01:33:00.860 Who are you muddying the waters with that?

01:33:02.280 What's your motivation for doing that exactly?

01:33:04.620 Good question

01:33:07.340 Good point Thomas Glinger

01:33:08.860 Good point

01:33:09.740 Yep

01:33:10.220 Alright

01:33:12.060 Calzetti says

01:33:13.540 Had an absolutely

01:33:14.880 Had an absolutely cracking morning

01:33:17.260 Watching Bo struggling

01:33:18.540 To not reveal his true power level

01:33:20.760 Best morning I've had in 25 years

01:33:24.900 To the day

01:33:25.520 Yeah

01:33:26.560 Well as I said in my

01:33:28.600 As I said in that article

01:33:30.820 To this day

01:33:32.740 I must bite, must

01:33:36.640 because of T's and C's 1.00

01:33:39.340 must bite my tongue

01:33:41.620 and veil the true depths of my

01:33:43.720 suspicion

01:33:44.140 alright Harry 1.00

01:33:47.120 Belgians are evil, trust me, that's what they've called 1.00

01:33:51.600 themselves, at Belgians are evil, trust me 1.00

01:33:53.480 say, September the 11th 1.00

01:33:55.840 equals evil plan by Belgians 0.96

01:33:57.940 West Frisians

01:33:59.580 and Eamon Holmes, another Eamon Holmes

01:34:01.600 Jack there this morning. Also,

01:34:03.660 Prime Minister has Dutch wife. 1.00

01:34:05.860 Maybe a West Frisian behind 0.92

01:34:07.280 holiday tax.

01:34:09.680 Then you've put Groningen,

01:34:11.220 smiley face. 1.00

01:34:13.560 Belgians are evil, trust me, cares all 1.00

01:34:15.380 about the Frisian question 1.00

01:34:16.880 and Groningen issues.

01:34:20.620 Okay.

01:34:23.060 Zef317

01:34:23.700 says,

01:34:26.320 Eamon Holmes

01:34:27.700 opened the gates of Toledo. 1.00

01:34:31.600 look into that if you're interested belgians we will trust me again says

01:34:37.260 intro to frisians east and saturn land frisians good but to be consumed by gronigan and became

01:34:46.660 part of gronigan's culture west frisian foes however again i told you at belgians we will

01:34:52.840 trust me cares about it's the number one issue of the of the in the world for him

01:34:57.400 is the frisian question okay cg ma'am 8923 says oh is this to be in response to where you asked

01:35:04.680 about mauritius and china and india and i said what i said and you're applying to that now already

01:35:09.040 i think that's what this is going to be so you say you say yes china does give them aid don't

01:35:16.060 miss out on indian military bases and navy and historic connections okay it's all part of the

01:35:20.780 bigger picture okay fair enough fair enough good point in fact fair enough fair enough

01:35:24.260 I should look into that more

01:35:26.740 The whole Chagos Island thing

01:35:30.000 The crux of it in a way

01:35:34.180 One argument you can make is that

01:35:36.700 What's at the real heart of it is

01:35:38.440 The government of Mauritius

01:35:40.460 Why are we trying to give those islands away to Mauritius?

01:35:44.780 Exactly

01:35:45.140 Yeah

01:35:46.480 Who is, what is the government of Mauritius?

01:35:49.160 And who, if anyone, is truly behind them?

01:35:51.360 what are they a proxy for if anything yeah all right good question interesting interesting

01:36:01.000 okay and the last one here is from tayton 2733 says cg ma'am is right indian workers

01:36:07.620 are bought on mass are brought sorry are brought on mass what to mauritius

01:36:15.340 okay okay fair enough but there's the as i say like a level above like who's paying for that

01:36:22.900 no that would be more that's more salient question sort of facilitating that making

01:36:27.620 that happen is it a foreign government and if so is it indian or chinese it's chinese okay

01:36:36.140 okay and one last just kicked in may as well read it from tatum 2733 again says

01:36:41.980 i'm now excited about potentially an oil crisis lol so you can win your argument and get kudos

01:36:47.840 from me and make me read one of the chapters of your book okay that's the show it's now 37 minutes

01:36:53.060 past nine in the am british summertime on september the 11th in the year of our lord 2026

01:36:59.560 all right 25 years ago today crazy feels crazy to say that

01:37:07.460 Try and make the best of the day ahead

01:37:11.420 If you can

01:37:12.100 In fact the weekend

01:37:12.840 The whole weekend ahead

01:37:13.700 Carpe diem

01:37:14.480 Seize the day

01:37:15.160 Or seize the days

01:37:16.400 Try and make him count if you can

01:37:18.020 If you're at liberty

01:37:18.540 To use the time

01:37:19.100 Wherever you please

01:37:19.800 You try and do something valuable with it

01:37:21.560 You've got a finite number of days

01:37:23.280 On this earth

01:37:23.820 It's probably later than you think

01:37:25.380 Alright then

01:37:28.200 Until Monday morning guys

01:37:30.400 Do take care

01:37:37.460 Bye.

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - September 11, 2026

Breakfast With Beau ｜ Friday 11th September 2026

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