The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - Breakfast With Beau ｜ Friday 15th May 2026

00:00:00 Good morning. You alright? I hope you are. I sincerely hope you are.

00:00:11 Many apologies for being ever so slightly late. It's two minutes past. Two minutes past

00:00:15 eight in the a.m. British summertime. Tardy. Tardy. Apologies. But we've got a guest this

00:00:21 morning via Zoom so we just had to check everything was okay. Which it is. It is now Friday isn't

00:00:27 it that friday feeling thank f it's friday the 15th of may in the year of our lord 2026

00:00:35 as always i'm joined by my producer little harry how are you this morning good sir

00:00:38 morning yeah more good good great great and who are you guys

00:00:45 come now you know who you are you're the glorious band the chosen few my band of brothers

00:00:50 and sisters without you isn't a thing thank you for joining me really sincerely

00:00:54 There's no way to express how sincerely I mean that

00:00:59 Without you it isn't anything, it really isn't

00:01:01 Okay, it's another sort of largely labour day

00:01:06 Burnham, Angela the Fridge Rayner 1.00

00:01:09 It's a queer starling, the whole nine yards 1.00

00:01:12 But I do have a guest 1.00

00:01:15 And I'm going to go through it with them

00:01:16 As always, that sort of thing

00:01:18 So we are privileged to be joined by none other

00:01:22 than Lewis the Beard Brackpool of Restore Britain fame.

00:01:27 How are you, sir?

00:01:29 I'm very well, thank you, Beau.

00:01:31 It's great to see you.

00:01:32 I think the last time we spoke,

00:01:34 I had a little too much to drink, I think,

00:01:36 because we were pre-celebrating the elections

00:01:39 up in Great Yarmouth.

00:01:40 So it's great to see you, man.

00:01:42 Yeah.

00:01:42 No, thanks for coming on.

00:01:43 Really, really appreciate your time.

00:01:45 And if anyone who doesn't know,

00:01:46 apart from just being like an online personality

00:01:50 in your own right,

00:01:50 you do actually work for Restore Britain.

00:01:52 so you're in the team and everything yes absolutely absolutely maybe let people know a

00:01:59 little bit about what you did before that with like your freedom of information requests and

00:02:03 all that sort of stuff how you got sort of involved in all this just in case there's

00:02:07 anyone out there any mad people out there that aren't aware of who you are okay yeah no problem

00:02:13 um so my name is lewis brackpool i've been doing journalism for about five years got into it

00:02:20 straight after the COVID madness because I felt like I was being lied to. So I went out with a

00:02:25 cameraman and a friend, sorry, a friend who was a cameraman and I went out with a microphone

00:02:31 and started asking people questions. That snowballed into something that I never thought

00:02:37 I'd ever predict. Worked for various organisations as a reporter and a journalist. Started, well,

00:02:44 found out a bit more about the Freedom of Information Act and how we could utilise it

00:02:48 against the government and started just annoying and pestering the government by using this

00:02:55 particular act and trying to acquire data from them to basically embarrass them and then once

00:03:02 Restore Britain was started up I got a phone call from a Mr Charlie Downs who's a friend of the show

00:03:10 and a very good friend of mine in real life and I got the call from Restore to ask to join to set

00:03:18 up the Restore's Investigations Unit and whistleblowing line to basically help with concerns

00:03:26 regarding that, whether it be within government or the wider public life.

00:03:31 And it is an absolute, and this is a bit of a cursed word, but I'm going to use it anyway,

00:03:36 it's an absolute privilege to be part of Restore Britain.

00:03:40 And we are really hitting the ground running.

00:03:43 And it's an exciting time in British politics.

00:03:46 Absolutely.

00:03:47 He was there from one of the very, very, very earliest members.

00:03:51 So amazing stuff.

00:03:52 Brilliant.

00:03:53 And the team seems to be growing all the time from what I gather.

00:03:55 When I was down there in Great Yarmouth,

00:03:56 there was quite a lot more people working for the party

00:03:59 than I thought there were.

00:04:00 So it's great.

00:04:01 It's all the trajectory, the momentum is all onwards and upwards.

00:04:05 It certainly is.

00:04:06 It certainly is.

00:04:07 I'm super excited to see where we go next.

00:04:10 So, yes.

00:04:12 Brilliant.

00:04:13 All right.

00:04:13 Let's just have you.

00:04:14 I believe you understand the format of the show.

00:04:16 might have seen breakfast before perhaps and so we uh we go through the papers and just talk all

00:04:23 about it and i'll get your takes and ask if you've got any uh tidbits from sort of inside the the

00:04:29 thinking of restore on various bits and bobs if you're allowed if it's not sort of a secret or

00:04:33 anything so um all right today is a day where it's all sort of uh still kia starma stuff so

00:04:40 if i uh if we go straight to harry can you bring up the papers there

00:04:46 on the script on our screen can you do that all right anyway

00:04:53 anyway can people see that the papers front page of the papers there you go there you go there it

00:05:01 is all right well little harry a bit flustered this morning uh pray for harry okay uh we'll

00:05:08 quickly whip through the uh some of the front pages get to the eye paper because it's got all

00:05:12 like the half a dozen main points that we could talk to but talk about the

00:05:16 Star Wars battle as Burnham handed route back to Westminster that's probably the

00:05:20 big one the Metro gross rivals okay all right all right the Sun burn to run baby

00:05:26 he was burned to run the Daily Telegraph Burnham launches bid for

00:05:32 number 10 did it do that Burnham Burnham makes move really

00:05:36 Keir Starmer's behind bars

00:05:37 The Guardian

00:05:39 Bid to topple

00:05:42 Bid to topple in a by-election

00:05:44 The star Crash and Burnham

00:05:46 Very clever, very, very clever

00:05:48 Alright, here we go

00:05:49 Streeting and Burnham start leadership battle

00:05:53 To force out Starmer

00:05:54 Okay, let's go through these a bit

00:05:56 In a bit more detail

00:05:57 Keir Starmer's Labour critics

00:05:59 Make their move

00:06:01 So that's one of the big things, the first thing

00:06:03 Streeting quits yesterday, right?

00:06:06 and we got his letter

00:06:08 I don't know if you read it

00:06:09 it was a bit

00:06:10 I didn't

00:06:11 it was a bit obsequious

00:06:12 and a bit like

00:06:13 thank you so much

00:06:14 for letting me serve

00:06:14 in your government

00:06:15 and

00:06:15 like the only thing

00:06:17 he really said

00:06:18 some papers described it

00:06:19 as like some sort of

00:06:20 blistering withering attack

00:06:21 it wasn't

00:06:22 it's cool

00:06:22 there's one bit where he goes

00:06:23 there's a bit of a power vacuum

00:06:25 at the top of

00:06:25 of cabinet

00:06:26 that's about it

00:06:27 and then at the end

00:06:29 again he's like

00:06:30 thank you so much

00:06:31 it's been the privilege

00:06:32 of my life to work with you

00:06:33 anyway

00:06:34 and we got

00:06:35 starmer's letter back okay like really passive aggressive weak letter stuff yeah oh it's been

00:06:41 great to work with you thank you for all your work you've done over the time anyway anyway all

00:06:46 right but he didn't launch a leadership bid street he quit but didn't launch a leadership

00:06:53 bid now whether that's because he didn't actually have the 81 mps to back him or whether there's

00:07:02 some sort of there's been some sort of grand strategy deal in the background all of Keir

00:07:07 Starmer's enemies clubbing together and deciding the one overarching strategy is to get Burnham in

00:07:13 I don't know but what do you think of that streeting and various other ministers Jess

00:07:17 Phillips quitting but not still a formal leadership bid not being triggered yet it is interesting I

00:07:24 know that uh quite recently Starmer gave I think a bit of a stern warning to his MPs saying you 0.99

00:07:31 know if you do quit uh you know you will let reform in uh and we don't want that x y and z

00:07:37 so it is fascinating to see sort of the iron bar being hammered from uh keir starmer from behind

00:07:45 the scenes it is quite fascinating but um no i i mean i mean we've had two governments in a row now

00:07:53 do this where they they put out these really weak wet lettuce letters out saying i'm resigning i've

00:08:01 had enough i'm sorry i can't handle it anymore it's been an absolute privilege to serve you

00:08:05 you know it happened under the boris government um with so many mps deciding to quit because of

00:08:12 the vaccine passports and now we're seeing something very very similar i don't know i think 0.99

00:08:18 in my view it would be terrible if we had a general election right now a snap election which

00:08:24 i don't think is going to happen from restore britain's point of view you mean from our position

00:08:29 yeah in my in my in my own personal view yes i think that would be a disaster um it wouldn't be

00:08:37 great uh but i don't i think keir starmer is too much of a narcissist to actually back down

00:08:43 um so i actually don't know what's going to happen um but i presume because of what keir

00:08:52 starmer's like in terms of the way that he's got the way that he's governing and the way his

00:08:58 personality is uh essentially robotic is i don't think he's going anywhere personally even though

00:09:05 that there has been a little bit of a revolt i don't know what your take is yeah no my feeling

00:09:10 at the moment is the the labor party all starmers starmer and the opposition starmer in the labor

00:09:21 party are gonna sort of let the burnham thing and that by election play out and then see where they

00:09:28 are there and even if he does if burnham doesn't win that then okay that's a different timeline if

00:09:35 he does then there's a leadership race which takes a while and anyway some people saying that all of

00:09:42 this might not come to a head until labour party conference which is in september yeah well as you

00:09:49 this moment in time on this morning i wouldn't be surprised if we are looking at that now

00:09:54 yeah absolutely and you know politics unfortunately is about 60 to 70 optics so they'll want to do it

00:10:03 they want to time it right if they want to do a kind of leadership bid i mean i mean we say this

00:10:09 every time be careful what you wish for you know obviously stalin is stalin starmer that was a bit

00:10:16 of a slip uh starmer was um was well starmer's awful obviously we know that i don't need to

00:10:24 go into detail about that we obviously don't like him and the way he governs obviously but you never

00:10:30 know what's around the corner if he's pushed aside and then a new leader is put in i mean

00:10:36 optically it's it would be awful to have angela rayner um as as the next leader uh you know i

00:10:45 I know that there's this big bid for Burnham,

00:10:48 but he needs to win a by-election first

00:10:50 if he's actually confirmed properly to stand.

00:10:53 I know he put out a tweet last night saying that he's,

00:10:56 I believe, looking to stand.

00:10:58 I think that's the last I've seen,

00:11:01 but I'm not sure if there's been any updates since.

00:11:04 Yeah, no, there's been a whole bunch.

00:11:05 So yesterday I reported on the Beau show, Breakfast with Beau,

00:11:09 I reported that a particular MP was going to stand down.

00:11:13 What was it? Afzal Khan.

00:11:15 only told you guys that because that's what the rumors were that's what the papers were saying

00:11:20 turns out it wasn't him it's another guy josh simons right okay so so josh simons um has actually

00:11:30 resigned he's actually fully done it already he did that last night there's like his letter is

00:11:36 published as well interestingly he explicitly said it was just to stand aside for burnham

00:11:40 I didn't think you was allowed to do that

00:11:42 But obviously you are 1.00

00:11:43 He's a real scumbag 1.00

00:11:46 He's a young guy 1.00

00:11:48 He's like a die hard

00:11:50 Die, die hard

00:11:51 Labour 1.00

00:11:52 Forever

00:11:55 He was thrown out of

00:11:58 He was in cabinet I believe

00:11:59 And he was thrown out because of a scandal to do with

00:12:01 That he was spying on journalists

00:12:04 And

00:12:06 Starmer had put him in charge

00:12:08 Of the ID card

00:12:10 Initiative 0.84

00:12:11 So that guy

00:12:14 That Josh Simons 1.00

00:12:15 What a scumbag 1.00

00:12:17 Again a perfect example 1.00

00:12:20 Of somebody I wouldn't want in

00:12:22 Power in parliament

00:12:23 Nowhere near it 0.96

00:12:25 Just like an amoral commie 0.98

00:12:27 Yeah

00:12:29 But he's stepped down now

00:12:31 Because he's a burning man

00:12:32 So he has actually stepped down

00:12:35 So that will trigger that by-election

00:12:37 Right

00:12:38 Okay, and that's in, what's it called in, what's it called?

00:12:43 Makefield.

00:12:44 Makefield, Makerfield.

00:12:46 Makefield.

00:12:46 Makerfield, yeah.

00:12:49 So, the next thing was, is Burnham going,

00:12:53 are the Labour Party going to select Burnham?

00:12:56 Because they're sort of in a sanctum of power,

00:13:00 the NEC, the National Executive Committee,

00:13:02 where there's only like eight, 10, 12 people in it,

00:13:05 like the most senior people in government.

00:13:08 With the Gorton and Denton thing, they blocked him almost unanimously, I think,

00:13:13 very close to unanimously.

00:13:15 Well, they've now come out this morning, insiders,

00:13:18 and said the NEC won't block Andy Burnham from that, which is interesting.

00:13:22 Very, very, very interesting.

00:13:24 I thought that would be a massive, massive hurdle,

00:13:26 a massive internal battle for Burnham or Burnham's camp.

00:13:30 It doesn't seem to have been.

00:13:31 I mean, what do you think of that?

00:13:32 What's changed since Gorton and Denton when they said,

00:13:35 no, no, he's best placed to be mayor.

00:13:36 we need all our best people as mayors but now no i mean what do you make of that i think time is

00:13:43 just running out for labor and i think they're just getting desperate um and i think when when

00:13:49 a power struggle happens within government when a when a government becomes unbelievably popular

00:13:54 the only way to kind of save it is to either bring in a new face that will try and galvanize

00:14:01 people and i think to pick burnham as the guy to do that i mean is laughable i mean didn't the guy

00:14:06 vote for the iraq war and uh wasn't there something to do with inquiries happening um that he's

00:14:14 allegedly shot down i'm not sure yeah he's embroiled in sort of pouring cold water on

00:14:20 sex gang inquiries in the past yeah i heard about that yeah um so not quite the it's either getting

00:14:29 a new fresh face in um to struggle with power or it's a war um you know it's it's an actual

00:14:37 it's a war that you that you you're put in and i mean a conflict no i don't mean a war within

00:14:44 power struggle i mean an actual war um to sort of galvanize people um and i think they're just

00:14:52 getting incredibly desperate and i think i think they you look at the results from labor i mean

00:14:58 the turnout on the local elections from you know various other places apart from great yarmouth

00:15:04 was pretty low but seeing labor lose nearly 1500 council seats in one swooping blow i mean that

00:15:13 must do a lot of damage to not only uh not only the party but of course bruising the ego if you

00:15:22 know if uh if kirsten actually reacts to something like that i mean you can't even tell

00:15:26 so we'll see

00:15:28 we'll see

00:15:29 really was bruising wasn't it

00:15:32 and like losing control in

00:15:34 Wales

00:15:35 breaking a political stranglehold

00:15:39 in Wales that they've had for a hundred years

00:15:40 yeah

00:15:41 from Keir to Keir

00:15:43 Keir Harley to Keir Starmer

00:15:46 I mean bookending it with a Keir

00:15:48 yeah the interesting thing is

00:15:51 well when you said a minute ago

00:15:52 that their great hope

00:15:54 the thing the person they hope will will draw them back back from the precipice uh will save

00:16:03 them from electoral annihilation is andy burnham that's laughable yeah yeah can i just make a

00:16:12 broader point here that people don't seem to be saying i haven't seen many people any real people

00:16:16 in the mainstream media sort of saying this but if you remember if you're old enough i might you

00:16:22 might just about be old enough it's when i was more like a teenager times um in the blair years

00:16:28 and the brown years a bit burnham was like barely b team like burnham wasn't he wasn't like some

00:16:38 he's quite popular within the labor party membership it wasn't massively popular in the

00:16:43 country or anything like i was like as soon as we've got burnham as leader we're going to win

00:16:47 the next general election no why are you thinking that where do you get that calculation from

00:16:50 He's just another low-T 1.00

00:16:53 Soyboy 1.00

00:16:54 Parlour in Pinko 0.89

00:16:56 He's nothing, he's a nothing man

00:16:58 You look back at the early Blair years

00:17:01 You look back at people

00:17:03 Like a lot of them

00:17:05 Jack Straw

00:17:06 Robin Cook

00:17:08 Someone like David Blunkett

00:17:11 They're all 1.00

00:17:13 Disgusting Fabian socialists 1.00

00:17:14 But they were formidable men 1.00

00:17:16 They were

00:17:18 they were formidable political operators right they weren't to be trifled with type politicians

00:17:25 yeah someone like Andy Burnham was bottom of the barrel then right they're like kick him out in the

00:17:32 end after 20 odd years whatever just to put him down into like the the minor leagues go and let

00:17:38 him be a mayor somewhere he's not like that's the sort of level he is where this calculation comes

00:17:43 from within Labour that like it's burn them or bust burn them will save us what I don't get it

00:17:49 do you no I don't get it I mean you can really test and see how much a party or an organization

00:17:57 within the party likes a particular politician by where they go next after a kind of an in

00:18:04 of a uh a premiership of some sort I mean what did Blair do as soon as he finished up here I mean

00:18:11 technically he carried on really he continued his legacy but through the tory party and everywhere

00:18:16 else but where were they put you know we even had communists lit actual communists being put

00:18:23 in places like the who um and you know various organizations here burnham burnham was like you

00:18:33 said just just give him a mayor role like somewhere random place like just give him a mayor role and

00:18:39 just you know keep him in the sidelines there and it's actually funny to see how much he is

00:18:46 respected which is not that much i mean i don't know yeah i i never said when it started coming

00:18:57 out what like not that long after starmer got into power really what within six months even

00:19:02 you sort of hear rumors of burnham you know i'm already i'm like but who cares the andy burnham

00:19:11 like the yeah yeah the bottom of tony the dregs of tony blair's barrel like the scrapings of the

00:19:17 bottom of the blairite era really that's run for leadership a number of times and never won it

00:19:23 because again he's like west streeting or he's like kiss time yourself comes across to me as a

00:19:31 weak a weak person physically yeah so politically morally there's like there's no he's not a fire

00:19:41 brand is he he's like the david brent of the labor party essentially again he's like he seems to me

00:19:49 quite so sort of effeminate even i don't know like well why they think in the labor party that

00:19:57 he's that like their magic bullet back to to get um for re-election no idea it really is like the

00:20:06 oh yeah well it just shows the dearth of talent in the labor party i suppose really right if

00:20:15 that's the best they can all agree or most of them agree apart from the far far far left of

00:20:20 the party they can all agree that burnham's the guy really right okay you got all right

00:20:25 Burnham.

00:20:25 Mental.

00:20:26 All right.

00:20:27 So this by-election is going to happen then?

00:20:30 Yeah.

00:20:31 It's not a safe Labour seat.

00:20:33 No, it's not.

00:20:34 The majority there, I think, is something like that Josh Simons,

00:20:38 5,000, 5,300 or something?

00:20:42 It's not razor thin, but that's not what you'd call

00:20:44 a particularly safe seat, is it?

00:20:46 No.

00:20:47 No, not at all.

00:20:48 And I think the polls are, well, obviously,

00:20:50 they would have shrunk for Labour anyway, but I think I saw,

00:20:53 i think what was it uh labor was polling at uh 24 percent i think i'm not sure if that's the

00:20:59 latest polls uh for how well in that area you mean in that in that area compared i think reformer

00:21:06 polling at around 50 um for that area which is massive i think that's what i saw i think last

00:21:13 night it's quite massive it's quite a big gap um it's quite fun to look at that's my that's the

00:21:22 funniest outcome for me that the nec let him do it he runs and just totally totally loses

00:21:29 everyone in the labor party that wanted him every single anti-kir person in the labor party that

00:21:36 opinion all their hopes on burnham that they're just all just like like what like what now like

00:21:44 that was that was our one strategy that was our guy yeah our guy is gone i did see that in the

00:21:50 local elections in that area it was just a full bald sweep for reform yeah now you know obviously

00:21:57 you i know you know the local elections and parliamentary elections are very very different

00:22:02 beasts they really are i mean one is a good indication of the other but but they're not

00:22:07 the same thing there's all different dynamics going on on a number of different levels however

00:22:12 Still

00:22:13 The whole place

00:22:15 Literally the whole place swept reform

00:22:18 By reform

00:22:19 So okay and it's not a safe seat

00:22:21 I mean to put it in some context

00:22:23 That Gaunton and Denton

00:22:24 That had

00:22:26 That was a much safer seat

00:22:28 The Labour majority there was more like 13,000

00:22:31 Labour came third in it

00:22:34 Yeah

00:22:35 So

00:22:36 So they're complete in other words

00:22:38 The Labour strategist here

00:22:41 or the Burnham camp strategists, are utterly, utterly relying,

00:22:45 really, really leaning on the fact that he's just so crazily popular

00:22:50 in Manchester that he's the king of the north, king of the north,

00:22:55 and that wherever he sits, he will, wherever he stands,

00:22:58 he'll just definitely win it.

00:23:00 I don't think that's a given, do you?

00:23:02 No, no, absolutely not.

00:23:04 And I saw the video.

00:23:05 I don't know if you saw it.

00:23:07 I think he was with Greater Manchester in a committee,

00:23:09 and he was just getting hounded by the general public i think some woman was literally standing

00:23:15 over pointing at him and just shouting as loud as she could to try and make her voice heard fair

00:23:22 play to her um mate he was getting ripped an absolute new one um and it's all on video

00:23:28 and it's just how can you even think that this guy is popular there i i just think it's another

00:23:35 case of you know internal factions believing within their bubble that they have a popular

00:23:40 candidate or they know the best interests for the British people it's one it's one of those

00:23:45 once again very out of touch to the point where it's almost it's almost sinister you know I mean

00:23:53 it's it's almost like how do you not see that the public really hate you at the moment like

00:23:59 really despise you and you it's just falling on such deaf ears i mean i mean it's the definition

00:24:07 of of careerist bubble uh so i don't know we will see but um yeah burnham losing catastrophically

00:24:17 uh is kind of what we want right that would be funny and of course he's got to resign from being

00:24:22 the mayor of manchester as well so that that will be uh there'll be another election for that

00:24:27 Be nice if Labour didn't win

00:24:30 That as well

00:24:31 If Reform or the Greens or whoever picked that up

00:24:34 As well, that would be nice

00:24:36 Actually, that leads me slightly onto something

00:24:38 You may or may not be able to tell me

00:24:40 So feel free to say, I just don't know

00:24:42 Or I can't tell you

00:24:43 Do you know if Restore

00:24:46 Have got any

00:24:47 Intentions of putting someone up there

00:24:50 In this by-election

00:24:52 Or even in the mayoral election

00:24:53 That there will be in Manchester

00:24:55 so um the party line at the moment is we haven't come to a formal decision yet so that's where

00:25:02 we're at at the moment in my own personal opinion that's separate um from the party line

00:25:08 and i'm putting that on record that this is my own personal opinion yep um i i think we should

00:25:16 watch and see who is going to stand for reform you know it could be a boris wave candidate

00:25:23 it could be a parachuted in someone from within their their party it could be Zia I highly doubt

00:25:31 it but it could be it could be anyone so I think in my personal opinion I think we should see who

00:25:38 is going to stand in that by election from reform and just play it by ear although you know I can

00:25:48 think of two people who would be fantastic you know for that particular by-election however

00:25:58 at the moment we haven't come to a formal decision I had a feeling that that question

00:26:05 was going to be asked so yeah I think it's it's a very exciting time I don't know if you saw the

00:26:12 betting odds as well i mean restore was third to win and we have and there's no there's been

00:26:19 no formal decision uh being made yet i think betting odds have put us third to win um which

00:26:25 is fascinating yeah i believe it's only five percent um but still for us to be prompted

00:26:33 on on on that i mean we're not even getting prompted on polls as you know um yet yet we're

00:26:41 managing to to deliver i mean great yarmouth from the great yarmouth uh first results and

00:26:48 campaigning there seven days in a row and watching the count and being there when they announced the

00:26:54 winners uh i mean i'm still on a high now and it was just fantastic i mean you saw when you came up

00:27:01 and uh we had a brief chat and i was going around on the doors and you briefly we briefly had an

00:27:06 interaction and obviously a friend nate um friend of the show nate who who joined some of the door

00:27:13 knocking as well uh to see what it was like um yeah i mean that was an overwhelming victory so

00:27:21 it is possible it is certainly possible um but just to reiterate yes the decision uh hasn't

00:27:30 been formally made yet fair enough no fair enough i see all sorts of people like even

00:27:35 semi woodhouse all sorts of people asking i mean i immediately ask myself the question oh i wonder

00:27:40 if they will or not um but yeah what's your view what's your view on it

00:27:45 if i could just call all the shots if i was rupert i probably i probably would i would put

00:27:53 someone there even if the polling looked like we wouldn't actually win it because it's i probably

00:28:00 would just because it's experience it it it puts the flag up saying we're prepared we we we are

00:28:10 prepared to to to gamble with the with the reputation we're not afraid of losing all those

00:28:16 various things that we're up for it we're a we're a we're a real party that's going to contest

00:28:22 anything and everything we can yeah that would be my feeling my opinion that would be my personal

00:28:28 opinion um and also i feel like i think it's fair to say that anywhere that is right leaning anywhere

00:28:38 that's like a a tory area or certainly a reform area that's where restore are likely to do best

00:28:45 you know it's strong like lib dem and the few remaining labor strongholds are maybe a lost

00:28:52 calls for restore or some constituencies in london that are just entirely for almost entirely foreign

00:28:59 tower hamlet's areas or whatever somewhere like west streetings seat in ilford north or whatever

00:29:04 yeah not so much but somewhere that's like um um like a disaffected disenchanted

00:29:12 part of manchester working class part of manchester where reform just cleared up i feel

00:29:17 like that's a really good place for restore to give it a go i feel like um yeah i feel just my

00:29:24 personal opinion again if i was at the helm i'd be like i'd sort of um want to to uh foster a

00:29:33 feeling of not being afraid yeah like yeah i hear you may well you may well come second or third or

00:29:40 fourth but okay so be it that's politics yeah but we're gonna throw our hat in the ring that was my

00:29:45 feeling but if you guys decide that it's still too early there's not enough time things like

00:29:51 that uh that's also i think without sounding like too much for sycophane i actually genuinely think

00:29:56 that's fair enough uh because restore is still so young isn't it let's not forget it's still

00:30:04 it's barely out of the crib really only a few months old formerly so i get it but anyway and

00:30:11 Look at what we've done and look at what we've done in the meantime, right?

00:30:15 I mean, it is just unbelievable.

00:30:17 I mean, we could have halved the votes from Great Yarmouth.

00:30:20 We could have halved each candidate's vote, the nine seats that we won,

00:30:25 and we would have still won.

00:30:26 The margin of success was remarkable, wasn't it?

00:30:28 I mean, in a local election, it really was.

00:30:30 And I'm not saying that to, you know, I'm being very biased here.

00:30:34 I'm trying not to be as biased.

00:30:36 But seriously, when you look at the number crunch, you look at the turnout.

00:30:40 I mean, the candidate I was campaigning with, Michael French, fantastic bloke, when we were out campaigning for him, he was he was a little bit wobbly.

00:30:51 He wasn't sure what would happen.

00:30:54 But then when the results came in and he got a forty nine point five percent turnout and I think it was over eighteen hundred votes for a local election, whereas I think reform had like eight hundred.

00:31:06 um i mean it was unbelievable genuinely unbelievable i i'm so so happy um but yes

00:31:14 you know regardless of what we decide to do obviously i back rupert's and the team's decision

00:31:20 if we do decide to do it um i'd be more than happy to door knock again that was really fun

00:31:25 canvassing is a lot of fun knocking on doors um and just trying to find out voting intention

00:31:32 i loved it i thought it was great go out with a team with a map and try and uh you know find

00:31:38 voter intentions from different closes i thought it was great you know we've really got to look at

00:31:44 um these tactics now um and really sort of home in on on the formula to win it winning great

00:31:53 yarmouth first and applying that nationwide now we've set the precedent now so yeah in my total

00:31:59 opinion i agree why not um i i i think personally my view we should um you know there's a lot of

00:32:07 people online talking about splitting the vote splitting the vote i'm so bored of that paradigm

00:32:14 i'm done with that nobody owes owns your vote nobody not a single party not even restore owns

00:32:21 your vote it's up to us it's up to the party in question to galvanize the public to prove

00:32:30 that we are the real deal and to say this is why we you should vote for us and the big reason is

00:32:37 that we will not stand careerist politicians and that we are outside of the establishment where

00:32:43 the rest of the parties have decided to cozy up to it including reform as we know

00:32:49 so yeah absolutely yeah i am done with that argument that argument is what kept is what kept

00:32:58 our politics a two-party thing conservative and labor for so many decades you can't split the

00:33:04 vote otherwise the other side again no that whole paradigm can go take a long walk off a short pier

00:33:10 not interested in any of that or you might split the reform vote don't care don't care yeah they're

00:33:16 as much a political enemy as the lib dems so i don't care yeah or you might look laboring well

00:33:22 that's politics yeah what what yeah we're gonna vote for what we want we're gonna vote for a party

00:33:28 that's patriotic and at least a bit nativist is that too much to ask no no no so i'm not and reform

00:33:36 are just uni party containment aren't they they really are just the two tories so i'm not interested

00:33:41 in hearing from them you're going to split the vote don't care yeah i don't get away from me with

00:33:48 that um okay so um one other thing i want to ask you why we're talking about restore and everything

00:33:54 and uh the local um i believe because we had uh harrison in the other day he was telling me that

00:34:01 he was doing a bit of um a bit of the vetting as well he talked to me a little bit about that

00:34:08 because obviously that's one of the biggest things isn't it you want to you want the right people

00:34:13 and um so how was that experience for you doing a whole bunch of of the vetting side of stuff

00:34:20 yeah obviously i don't want to diverge into too much detail of course naturally um but it's been

00:34:27 very very eye-opening it's been fascinating um we've had all sorts of people from all walks of

00:34:33 life uh come forward and want to be part uh of the movement i mean it's unbelievable the amount

00:34:39 of people that have applied uh to want to either become uh branch organizers or just to get

00:34:45 involved i mean you know our inbox is just continuous it just doesn't end um so it's it's

00:34:52 wonderful to see the galvanization and see the amount of people that are willing to not just

00:34:58 vote for us not just become members but actually want to get involved i mean i set up a branch

00:35:04 in horsham um where i am and i was expecting about 40 to 50 people to turn up and i think we got 120

00:35:14 turn up i didn't have enough chairs people were sitting on the floor to try and listen to um

00:35:22 you know, what we were talking about and trying to get people involved in volunteering.

00:35:28 And unbelievable. It's been wonderful. So on the vetting side, well, as we know, I think

00:35:37 looking at other parties, let's say, and how they are vetting their candidates is absolutely

00:35:44 atrocious absolutely atrocious so we're bearing in mind um you know trying to do as much as we can

00:35:52 uh to plug the holes essentially of of anyone trying to come in whether it be an infiltrator

00:35:58 whether it be uh someone with a a bit of a an interesting past let's say i mean didn't we have

00:36:06 a reform council that's just been elected that uh is leading a double life as a porn star i believe

00:36:12 is that correct did you read something on twitter briefly the other day on that yeah yeah yeah i

00:36:17 mean yeah we we want to avoid stuff like that really um so so i think it's been a fascinating

00:36:26 learning curve obviously you know you have to bear in mind we're not going to get everything correct

00:36:31 you know it's impossible it really is impossible uh to be 100 perfect and i understand um that

00:36:39 people are dismayed within British politics as am I this is the reason why I'm here is because

00:36:45 finally that there is a home and so you know we're not going to get it all right of course we're not

00:36:52 and there will be in the future who knows someone or you know whoever that will slip through the

00:36:58 cracks that's natural that that will happen it's just a case of how we deal with it and I'm very

00:37:06 confident in our team as well that have been helping out with not just the vetting but the

00:37:11 organization and the logistical skills behind the scenes um absolutely fantastic team um and we

00:37:18 really do work as a team to try and help each other and support each other um during this

00:37:23 process because it's tough and we're dealing with a lot of people a lot of people um so

00:37:30 you know we have our we have our um ear to the ground and our eyes watching uh making sure that

00:37:38 you know everything is going smoothly and we're just looking out for the right people um and who

00:37:45 has the correct skill set for each different role like a branch organizer um and yeah i think next

00:37:52 stop is candidates so that's going to be incredibly um interesting so we shall see

00:37:59 oh okay let's get back to the papers here and uh just quickly run through the couple other things

00:38:06 so uh we're told uh west street ing resigns as health secretary uh with devastating critique

00:38:12 of pm's performance not performance not really he said there was a bit of a vacuum at the top

00:38:16 it was actually really he was actually sort of pretty sycophantic towards him if anything

00:38:21 andy burnham sets his sights on becoming uk's next prime minister and mp uh as mp stands down

00:38:28 That's that Josh Simons

00:38:29 To offer him possible route

00:38:32 Back to Westminster

00:38:33 He will campaign on cost of living

00:38:35 Quote

00:38:35 Much bigger change is needed

00:38:37 At a national level

00:38:38 Quote

00:38:38 Okay

00:38:39 Okay Andy

00:38:41 If you say so

00:38:42 Yeah yeah yeah

00:38:43 Alright

00:38:43 You're more of a social

00:38:45 You're the more

00:38:46 Tax more spend more

00:38:47 Classic

00:38:48 That's all he is

00:38:49 There's nothing

00:38:50 As if he's Andy Burnham's economics

00:38:54 Are somehow

00:38:54 Brilliant

00:38:56 Burnham economics

00:38:58 yeah burn them on burn them on it i can't even say um okay reform stands in way of his commons 0.97

00:39:06 return yeah nigel nigel said you can't blame him of course he would right it's the obvious move 0.86

00:39:12 he said oh we're gonna throw the kitchen sink at this one then oh yeah yeah we'll try and uh

00:39:17 we'll try everything to to win that seat um we'll put it this way if we do decide to stand

00:39:23 whatever decision makes and if we do decide i'll tell you what i'm going up i'm going up to door

00:39:29 knock and i think we'll have a an army of patriots up there to help with the canvassing and to help

00:39:36 with the volunteering like great yarmouth so we'll probably throw the kitchen sink as well

00:39:40 you know if that is the decision yeah that'd be nice every vote that doesn't go to labor

00:39:47 love it yeah okay uh what have we got there uh rest of the cabinet must now decide how long they

00:39:55 stick with starma or whether they encourage timetable for a leadership contest i've never

00:40:00 bought this idea that starma's going to agree to a timetable for leaving like tony blair did it's

00:40:06 very very rare it's the only example i can really think of where that happened at all was tony

00:40:13 and that was because there was a very very specific pact with him and Gordon Brown I don't

00:40:18 know where they keep coming up with this get Keir Starmer to agree to a timetable to leave he won't do

00:40:24 that no of course not no of course not obviously there is a lot wrong um with our with our politics

00:40:31 um you know for example uh I think when you have when you have someone in say local elections uh

00:40:41 whether it be reform or whoever uh there's trouble within like minute things within politics that

00:40:50 need to be changed as we know uh you know rules standing around like you know you must stand

00:40:56 if someone like a big defection happens for example like call it call a little by-election

00:41:03 you know if if someone votes you in and you haven't gotten the consent from your voter base

00:41:10 your constituency uh in terms of you know who they decided to vote for there needs to be i think

00:41:17 there needs to be in my personal opinion some rules around that some changes but when it comes

00:41:21 to a timetable i mean i don't think that this government is ever going to agree it all uni

00:41:29 the whole uni party is not going to agree to a timetable of course not of course not they what

00:41:34 they want to cement their legacy even if they even if it is awful even if the legacy is awful

00:41:41 and they're just so tone deaf they can't even see it they want to cement that they want their arc

00:41:48 just as nigel wants his arc you know so none of them are going to agree to to such a thing

00:41:54 yeah yeah yeah as soon as you do of course your your sort of your political authority is

00:42:01 massively undermined people are like well i don't have to do or listen to anything you're saying

00:42:06 because on this date you're gone so you truly do turn yourself into like a zombie leader

00:42:13 a zombie cabinet or whatever um so i can't believe that and as we've already said i think on this

00:42:19 stream i've certainly said a bunch of times before i just don't think that's what star was like as a

00:42:24 man as a politician as a strategist for what it's worth is that no i'm in power now i will stay i

00:42:30 I think yesterday even I invoked Ceausescu or Mao or something.

00:42:35 No, I'm in power and I will stay in power

00:42:38 and the rest of the world can collapse and burn around me

00:42:41 before I just give it up.

00:42:43 I feel like that's what he's like.

00:42:45 Yeah.

00:42:46 Well, that's what I gauge.

00:42:47 That's what I'm gauging from Starmer.

00:42:50 So I think that's a good observation.

00:42:53 Okay, last couple of things here.

00:42:56 Streeting calls for, quote,

00:42:57 the best possible field of candidates

00:42:59 and battle of ideas not factions yeah all right bro all right yeah yeah if you say so bruh yeah

00:43:08 i feel like i feel like he either i feel like he either hasn't got those 81 mps or he's just

00:43:15 fallen in line with the the overarching strategy of its burn or bust yeah okay yeah and the last

00:43:24 Angela Rayner settles her £40,000 of unpaid stamp duty

00:43:27 after HMRC investigation.

00:43:29 What do you think of that it was on the morning

00:43:32 of the day of resignations, the very morning...

00:43:35 Funny that.

00:43:36 ...that she got cleared of any wrongdoing.

00:43:39 Took her a while, didn't it?

00:43:41 Yeah.

00:43:42 Yeah. 0.74

00:43:43 Like I said earlier, majority of politics is all optics.

00:43:48 So when there is...

00:43:49 It's optics and opportunity.

00:43:51 so when you find that there is a leadership bid miraculously all these scandals just suddenly

00:43:59 like disappear or they they disseminate or they get resolved so yeah funny timing that

00:44:08 i don't know very very convenient for ms rayner yeah yes okay indeed what have we got um just

00:44:17 quick whip through the rest of the headlines and so it begins labor's great pretenders oh yes

00:44:25 they're the great pretenders what a pack of losers look at this not an ounce of testosterone between

00:44:33 actually rain has got more tea than either of these two numpties actually uh the express pure 0.97

00:44:42 filth look the king really worried about anti-semitism really really really worried

00:44:46 about anti-semitism didn't say a peep about uh southport but all right didn't say a peep about

00:44:51 wayne broadcast but okay all right yeah worry about the jews and gold is green though yeah yeah

00:44:55 yeah yeah yeah all right so we had a poll we did a poll didn't we harry can you bring that up for me

00:45:03 um let's see what did we we asked you guys just over 1200 votes loads more ticking in

00:45:11 be 1300 in a moment uh we asked do you think andy burnham will win his by-election

00:45:18 no 63 say no 24 say 25 say maybe all they know is their gut says maybe and 12 say yes

00:45:32 so 63 again if you i say if it nearly every morning if you've got that on a national

00:45:37 referendum you'd claim complete

00:45:39 and that's a victory wouldn't you on that

00:45:40 yeah

00:45:42 5300 odd majority

00:45:45 that's not 0.52

00:45:46 they really got a hope that it's just his

00:45:49 whole king of the north shtick

00:45:50 that wins it for him that's their

00:45:52 that's a bit of a shaky

00:45:55 thing to hang everything

00:45:57 on isn't it alright

00:45:58 let's have a look at

00:46:00 a few more stories today

00:46:02 and then I'll let you go

00:46:05 so

00:46:06 they're on the bbc look uh it's stummy it's like i'm thinking like a turtle you know sometimes

00:46:12 when you see people and they put you in mind of a an animal one way or another you know like

00:46:18 jess phillips a horse obviously for example i'm getting like a turtle vibe off of andy burn

00:46:26 oh my god a claymation turtle okay is it because of the shape of his head is that why yeah

00:46:35 yeah just uh yeah um was there what there was one or two others uh that burnt it's multiple

00:46:42 burnham it's burnham or bust hashtag burnham or bust um so trump's in uh in china with winnie the

00:46:50 pooh and apparently they're getting on really well um yeah and and he's sort of trump sort of

00:46:58 talking to him all about iran trying to leverage stuff in iran there's one story in the mail i

00:47:03 thought was was uh of mild interest let me see if i can find it um oh no anyway it was about nigel

00:47:12 it was about nigel's five million pounds that's in the news cycle yesterday and today a bit and

00:47:19 that um he actually said that he bought a home a 1.4 million pound home with cash probably not

00:47:26 literally physical notes but in other words he just paid for it all up front in one go

00:47:31 1.4 million pound house after he received that 5 million pound gift um i mean have you been

00:47:38 keeping up with this story at all do you think there's anything there there because you know

00:47:42 just quickly say on one end of the spectrum it could be absolutely 100 completely legit he didn't

00:47:47 break any rules or regulations and this is nothing this is just his enemies trying one more gambit

00:47:52 to try and get him it could be that it's really nefarious and dodgy and corrupt and he will

00:47:58 actually lose a seat they'll recall him and they'll have left to have a by-election there and

00:48:02 he's disgraced what are you i really don't know we have to see what the investigation is what do

00:48:06 you think i haven't been keeping properly up to date with it if i'm totally honest because it's

00:48:14 just it's just one of those things is another bit of nigel noise you know in terms of not necessarily

00:48:21 like i i don't understand like i don't get what's going on with him i saw his tweet about um mr

00:48:28 habib um i did see that i don't know if you saw that oh yeah yeah we made a video on it about it

00:48:34 on state of politics yeah he um i know he's threatening or he has put in legal action um

00:48:42 you know because i think he's i think habib made some uh comments regarding i don't know if that

00:48:48 was in conjunction with this particular yeah yeah yeah real quick about that just real quick let

00:48:56 people know what you're talking about there so nigel got given this five million pound by this

00:48:59 millionaire um didn't declare it perhaps should have declared it that's what the actual inquiry

00:49:05 would be about need he have declared it or not anyway he's just given five million quid ben

00:49:09 habib the other day goes on the internet and uh says i'm just going to tell you a story now

00:49:18 and the powers the people like nigel and that harbourn guy they can sue me if they want but

00:49:25 this is the truth and then went on to allege that it was all stitch up going back years going back

00:49:32 to the boris years million pounds thrown around here and there backroom deals here or there

00:49:36 all sorts of sort of if they're untrue slanderous things if they're true devastating things for

00:49:44 nigel um so all sorts of allegations okay ben habib did that um and nigel did come out and

00:49:53 sweet right i'm starting legal action against you now ben because ben habib was like because people

00:49:58 do that all the time well not all the time but that's not a completely unheard of thing to

00:50:03 allege something and you know it's true and you say yeah take me to court i'm perfectly comfortable

00:50:09 confident in myself that you won't take me to court because i know i'm speaking the truth

00:50:14 and then when people don't take you to court it's sort of indicated on that but when they go

00:50:18 oh no i am taking you to court though that is a liar that is libelous slanderous or whatever

00:50:23 well Nigel did yeah Ben Habib played that card and Nigel's like no I'm gonna take you to court bro

00:50:28 so we'll see I guess it's just another one of those things just watch sit back with some popcorn

00:50:35 yeah I mean yeah I mean it's one of those situations in it we just have to sort of

00:50:42 wait and see what happens with that because I have no idea like I'm out I'm out of that like

00:50:49 you guys go and have your argument over there like yeah slowly back away from that one

00:50:55 yeah yeah literally like the homer simpson meme literally back into the bushes like okay we'll

00:51:01 just leave you to it like pretty bizarre um no i think my in my view i don't know too much about

00:51:08 this uh particular thing that's happening i did see under the same breath that nigel um said even

00:51:16 according to uh elon musk that he um i think he said something he claims that he was being given

00:51:24 money i'm not sure if this is this is you know word for word what he said so you know take this

00:51:30 with a pinch of salt but it said something like loosely about how musk tried giving him money to

00:51:37 tell him to like tell him to say certain things or you know policy or whatever and he said no

00:51:44 allegedly and then i saw musk tweeted underneath nigel saying you know this is this is just this

00:51:51 is a lie this is totally untrue and i think it was around the same line of question i think it

00:51:57 was for the sun it was always his name cole i forgot his name but they were i think he was

00:52:02 being questioned about this particular money um situation and then he was i think farage was doing

00:52:10 his showmanship thing where he would

00:52:12 say, well, I've been, I can't

00:52:14 be bought. Yeah, alright, bro.

00:52:18 Yeah, didn't you have

00:52:18 a cameo account where you were literally bought

00:52:20 for like 70 quid at a pop?

00:52:24 Yeah. I mean

00:52:24 talking about big chungus. 0.89

00:52:27 Yeah. Harry, bring 0.95

00:52:28 up this article real quick. Yeah, so this

00:52:30 is a bit of a thing with, a bit of a spat

00:52:32 with Nigel and Elon where

00:52:34 apparently Nigel had said

00:52:36 that Elon

00:52:38 offered him money

00:52:40 And that he, Nigel, turned it down

00:52:43 And Elon just came out and said

00:52:46 Flat up said, quote

00:52:48 Farage is lying

00:52:50 That's what

00:52:51 Uncle Elon said

00:52:54 He just called him a liar

00:52:56 That's not true

00:52:57 Then other people say

00:52:59 Some people say that Elon

00:53:02 Has offered or given money to restore

00:53:05 I don't believe that's true

00:53:07 I think he might have offered

00:53:08 He might have said something

00:53:09 Might have hinted at it

00:53:10 But

00:53:10 as far as i'm aware he hasn't actually ever given restore a penny as far as i understand i i don't

00:53:15 know i'm not the the bursar i'm not the treasurer of restore but i don't believe he has neither

00:53:22 right okay no i i have no idea i have no idea i couldn't tell you it's above my pay grade yeah

00:53:28 yeah all right fair enough okay well um we're getting towards the top of the hour and i've

00:53:34 still got to do on this day in history must run brands and super chats lewis thank you very very

00:53:38 much for joining me it's a pleasure as always hopefully we'll have you back at some point

00:53:43 before too long hopefully we'll get you in absolutely in the studio in swindon you'll

00:53:47 be on the podcast massive friend of the channel so um once again thanks very much for your time

00:53:53 and i hope you have a great day no keep up the hard work and uh hopefully yeah i'll see you in

00:54:01 person again very very soon brilliant thank you sir okay okay louis the beard brackpool there

00:54:10 i'm just calling him that that's the first time as well so i'm just i've just made that up

00:54:16 that's a great beard it's a luxuriant beard it's a sort of beard a boy would dream of

00:54:23 okay all right let's do on this day in history on this day down through the centuries

00:54:31 What happened? Harry, would you mind moving the thing ever so slightly to the left so I can, you know, I mean, yeah, a tiny bit more, actually, if you don't mind, just so I can see.

00:54:45 That's it. That's it. Thank you. Thank you. All right. So on the 15th of May, going through centuries, what happened?

00:54:50 of note okay on this day in 1252 pope innocent the fourth issues the papal ball of x add x to a

00:54:59 panda probably mispronouncing that uh which authorizes but also limits the torture of

00:55:05 heretics in the medieval inquisition uh yeah there you go sort of the the roman inquisition

00:55:13 nobody expects the spanish inquisition not many people expect the roman inquisition

00:55:19 But there you go

00:55:21 There's a lot that could be said about that

00:55:24 But whenever I have in the past

00:55:26 Once or twice

00:55:27 Talking about Galileo for example

00:55:29 Who wasn't actually tortured

00:55:30 He was only shown the implements of torture

00:55:33 Whenever I've talked about 1.00

00:55:35 Torture at the hands of Catholics 1.00

00:55:37 In the medieval period 1.00

00:55:38 I often get a load of Catholics in the comments 1.00

00:55:41 Going mad 1.00

00:55:42 Trying to rewrite history

00:55:44 Trying to say it never happened or whatever

00:55:46 I'll just move on then

00:55:49 Heaven forbid we offend some Catholics

00:55:53 Alright, on this day in 1615

00:55:56 German astronomer Johannes Kepler

00:55:58 One of my all-time favourites, Kepler

00:56:00 Discovers, I don't say discovers

00:56:02 Discovers the third of his three planetary laws

00:56:06 The harmonic law

00:56:07 Love Kepler

00:56:08 There's the original, the original, original

00:56:11 Carl Sagan Cosmos

00:56:13 1970s documentaries about space and science one of those episodes is almost in a big big chunk of

00:56:20 it most of it is dedicated to talking about the life and career and thought and mathematics of

00:56:25 kepler absolutely pivotal person kepler's up there with like newton or uh clerk maxwell or something

00:56:33 kepler absolutely pivotal person um in human advancement in human civilization

00:56:39 yeah the third and a fantastically interesting life as well um lived through the wars of religion

00:56:46 everything loads of stuff loads of things went down in his life other than just working out

00:56:52 how the universe operates the third planetary law if i recall i'm no scientist i'm no physicist

00:56:58 no mathematician but it's to do with working out how the time of an orbit how long it takes

00:57:04 a body to orbit there's like a very very very specific relationship between that and um

00:57:13 what like how how big the orbit is sounds quite it might sound a bit obvious to us now

00:57:18 imagine it's the early 17th century that was that was entirely new i mean they were still dealing

00:57:25 With Ptolemaic

00:57:26 Ideas about perfect solids

00:57:29 And stuff

00:57:30 About how there were nested

00:57:33 Perfect shapes in the cosmos

00:57:35 Crazy 0.97

00:57:37 Crazy medieval nonsense 0.99

00:57:38 Is that okay 0.82

00:57:40 The planetary laws

00:57:43 Of Kepler

00:57:45 Pivotal thing

00:57:46 In human civilization

00:57:49 On this day in 1841 0.97

00:57:51 First emigrant wagon trail

00:57:53 To reach California

00:57:54 Think about here now, California

00:57:56 Where he leaves Independence, Missouri

00:57:59 On a 1,730 mile journey

00:58:01 Over the higher Sierra Nevada mountain range

00:58:04 Yeah, again, do you remember yesterday?

00:58:06 I think it was yesterday, wasn't it?

00:58:07 They had a thing about

00:58:08 The Lewis and Clark expedition

00:58:11 In the age of Jefferson

00:58:13 What, 1804, 1806?

00:58:15 Something like that, wasn't it?

00:58:16 So look, it's still another 35 years after that

00:58:19 Before a true concerted effort

00:58:22 Even begins

00:58:24 For

00:58:26 Citizens of the United States 0.98

00:58:29 To settle California

00:58:30 1841

00:58:33 That's like

00:58:34 Only 25 years before the Civil War

00:58:37 I just always find it interesting

00:58:41 How late it is

00:58:43 That the United States

00:58:45 Moved right out to the West Coast

00:58:50 And people

00:58:51 Started living there in any big numbers

00:58:54 That's so late to me

00:58:56 You might think that process started 100 years before that

00:58:59 Or more

00:58:59 No

00:59:00 Okay

00:59:02 On this day in 1869

00:59:04 National Women's Suffrage Association forms in New York

00:59:09 Founded by Susan B. Anthony

00:59:10 Okay, I don't really care

00:59:11 On this day in 1940

00:59:13 Richard Maurice MacDonald

00:59:15 Opened the first McDonald's restaurant

00:59:18 In San Bernardino, California

00:59:20 i'm just calling california californie now

00:59:24 um yeah mcdonald's first ever mcdonald's 1940 interesting i love mcdonald's with me

00:59:33 i know it's i know it's processed slop highly processed i love a big mac though if i'm just

00:59:41 honest with myself big macs are lovely okay on this day in 1951 at&t becomes the first

00:59:49 US corporation to have a million stockholders after a young car salesman Brady Denton purchases

00:59:55 seven shares worth $1,078. You've got shares in AT&T. Nice. That gives you a measure of

01:00:06 it, doesn't it? In 1951 money, seven shares were already worth over a grand. It's quality

01:00:16 blue chip stock that is okay and on this day in 1988 the Soviet Union begins withdrawing its

01:00:23 115,000 troops from Afghanistan yeah I may well I want to do some content about the Soviet war

01:00:34 in Afghanistan at some point it's one of those things I've been interested in on and off over

01:00:39 the years exactly what happened and the the the u.s involvement there's a tom hanks movie once

01:00:47 wasn't there and the stinger missiles and and why why it was that the soviet union failed so

01:00:53 miserably in a purely military sense in afghanistan in the 70s and 80s it's an interesting

01:01:01 story of course 1988 it's after chernobyl you're getting right towards the end of the soviet union

01:01:07 now all right that's the end of the gorbachev times nearly only a few more years to go

01:01:14 well the fall of berlin was in 89 isn't it the soviet system formally collapsed in 1990 or is it

01:01:20 1991 so we're right near the end of the soviet experiment there interesting fascinating all

01:01:27 right should we do our rumble rants and super chats let's have a look at that stuff

01:01:33 all right so the we always do rumble rents first don't we it's fair few actually we've

01:01:40 got a fair few rumble rents and superchats so rumble rents oh global church history's

01:01:47 been pipped again i mean kudos to uh jetlag 89 the early bird catches the worm

01:01:56 but okay so anyone is watching the bow show for the first time

01:02:03 global church history always nearly always gets in first

01:02:06 there it is we got a contender got a pretender to the throne

01:02:12 and new all right jetlag89 says on this day in 1532 the english church the english church

01:02:22 submits to henry the eighth in passing the submission of the clergy the church surrenders

01:02:28 its right to make provincial laws independently of the crown yeah at the moment on epochs my

01:02:33 my history themed show behind the paywall on lotusseaters.com you can see to sign up for as

01:02:39 little as five pound a month bronze team membership at the moment over 260 episodes

01:02:44 all long form so a few hundred hours of me talking about history everything from gobekli tepi through

01:02:51 To the 1980

01:02:53 Iranian embassy siege

01:02:55 SAS Iranian embassy siege in London

01:02:56 And anything and everything in between

01:02:58 On there, you've got loads and loads of content about the monarchy

01:03:01 The English monarchy

01:03:02 Well, going back to

01:03:05 Roman Britain, all the way through

01:03:07 I've got stuff with that

01:03:08 Elizabeth Haverin about King Arthur

01:03:10 The mostly fictional King Arthur

01:03:12 The Arthurian legend, all the way through King Alfred

01:03:15 From Alfred all the way on

01:03:16 From Alfred

01:03:19 through to at the moment i'm on henry the eighth i just think last sunday was the end and the death

01:03:25 of natural causes of henry the seventh henry tudor henry the eighth's dad this sunday is

01:03:31 henry the eighth part one on bow day's epochs so i shall be talking i don't talk about it in this

01:03:38 one because i'm just setting it up talking about his early life and his early reign a little bit

01:03:42 of wolsey i'm going to do henry the eighth thing loads and loads and loads of detail be many many

01:03:45 parts so in probably a week or two maybe as much as a month i'll be getting to

01:03:52 the full break with rome

01:03:56 and when henry decides he's going to be the head of a church in england

01:04:03 and his demand that they submit to his will his regal will so yeah thanks for that jetlag thanks

01:04:11 to that we'll get to it soon on epochs in as much detail as i can muster almost

01:04:17 okay in at number two global church history you can't win more mate don't beat yourself up

01:04:24 you say today in 221 ad liu bay probably pronouncing that wrong uh was made emperor of the

01:04:31 hand beginning the three kingdoms period um he's one of the most famous ones isn't he one of the

01:04:35 Of the more famous ones

01:04:36 That one

01:04:38 He was

01:04:38 He was like

01:04:39 Did you say

01:04:40 He founded 0.99

01:04:41 The Han 1.00

01:04:41 Yeah 1.00

01:04:41 Made

01:04:41 Made the first emperor 0.99

01:04:43 Of the Han 0.79

01:04:43 Yeah he's one of 0.98

01:04:45 The more famous ones

01:04:46 He's considered

01:04:47 As I understand it

01:04:48 Chinese history 1.00

01:04:49 Isn't my 1.00

01:04:50 My real wheelhouse

01:04:51 I've got a long

01:04:54 Form piece of content

01:04:54 All about

01:04:55 The first emperor

01:04:56 Of China 0.90

01:04:56 But that's like 0.74

01:05:00 400 years

01:05:01 Before that

01:05:02 That's like

01:05:03 In the 200s BC

01:05:04 That one 0.99

01:05:05 Qin Shi Huang Di 0.96

01:05:08 If I pronounce that

01:05:10 Really terribly

01:05:13 Qin Shi Huang Di

01:05:17 But that's 400 years before this guy

01:05:21 And yet he is one of the more famous ones

01:05:23 He's known as like a really benevolent

01:05:26 Sort of kindly good warlord

01:05:29 He's a warlord

01:05:30 He became an emperor

01:05:32 Made himself an emperor

01:05:33 but he's thought of it's like some sort of paragon of rulership okay and then the other

01:05:41 thing you say because you usually give us two thanks church history global church history the

01:05:45 other one you say is what have you said and in 1501 on this day in 1501 miguel and gaspar

01:05:52 corta real sets out towards what they later named labrador so yeah they're like um that's just before

01:06:00 the age of Magellan isn't it they're Portuguese guys Labradors up Canada isn't it it's way up

01:06:06 up the top of Canada all that stuff they were both lost at sea and their father was an explorer as

01:06:12 well Miguel I can't remember what happened to one of them was just lost at sea as well just

01:06:19 disappeared one day into a squall or a fog never seen again interesting interesting okay next one

01:06:28 Skulldrazer

01:06:31 Skulldrazer just says first

01:06:33 You're third

01:06:36 You think you can beat 0.85

01:06:39 Global Church History and Jetlag

01:06:41 89 by coming in

01:06:43 At 3 minutes to 9

01:06:45 3 minutes to 8

01:06:46 Oh no

01:06:47 That's not good enough I'm afraid

01:06:49 Must try harder

01:06:51 I'm only mucking about

01:06:54 You sent another one in

01:06:55 Skulldrazer

01:06:56 I hope everyone is having a boatiful morning

01:06:59 Thank you

01:07:00 Thank you

01:07:01 Boatiful

01:07:04 Well it's beautiful isn't it's the same spelling

01:07:07 But he's put Bo in capitals

01:07:08 Yeah I hope everyone is having a great morning

01:07:11 Looking forward to the weekend ahead hopefully

01:07:13 Okay 14 Barber says

01:07:15 Morning Bo you alright?

01:07:17 Yeah I'm alright

01:07:17 Are you sir?

01:07:18 I hope so

01:07:19 You put

01:07:20 Lewis Brackpool is always

01:07:22 Is always an interesting segment

01:07:24 Restore are third in Makerfield

01:07:28 According to Ladbrokes

01:07:29 It's potentially

01:07:31 A very funny by-election

01:07:33 Yeah, it could be, couldn't it

01:07:35 Who knows, if Restore did want to stand somewhere there

01:07:38 They might not tell

01:07:39 But if they do and they try really hard

01:07:41 Who knows

01:07:44 Who knows

01:07:44 Could turn that into a win

01:07:47 Think positive

01:07:49 Alright, the next one

01:07:51 BoneappleTeaParty

01:07:53 says bow and lewis today question mark we are spoiled rotten this labor leadership dram

01:08:01 and probably drama you probably meant this labor later labor leadership drama is like

01:08:08 game of thrones but without a scintilla of testosterone yeah it's right it is like a bit

01:08:13 like that look there's not much testosterone is there flying around in that leadership contest

01:08:21 okay

01:08:23 the scripted

01:08:26 orc says have you considered

01:08:27 he's being allowed to run by Keir because

01:08:29 he knows he isn't going to win

01:08:32 what Andy Burnham yeah maybe I mean

01:08:33 yeah it may be

01:08:35 that's totally totally possible

01:08:37 Keir Starmer knows the numbers the

01:08:39 ultimate numbers and is confident

01:08:41 that he Keir Starmer will win

01:08:43 yeah

01:08:44 thing is if it comes down to

01:08:48 the membership

01:08:49 the Labour Party membership

01:08:51 after everything's shaken out

01:08:55 and there's only two remaining

01:08:56 and those two are

01:08:57 Burnham and Starmer

01:08:58 I think everyone is saying

01:09:01 that Burnham

01:09:02 Burnham wins that

01:09:03 like easily

01:09:04 I guess Keir Starmer

01:09:10 if what you're saying is true

01:09:11 which may well be true

01:09:12 that he expects he would just win

01:09:14 at a much earlier

01:09:14 point than that

01:09:16 he would get 50%

01:09:17 But before that stage

01:09:20 But who knows

01:09:21 Who knows

01:09:23 If anyone remembers when Ed Miliband

01:09:26 Beat his own brother

01:09:28 David Miliband to be leader

01:09:29 After Gordon Brown would it be

01:09:31 That must have been after Gordon Brown

01:09:33 Everyone

01:09:35 Everyone was saying

01:09:37 Well this is a lock for David Miliband

01:09:39 David Miliband is the heir apparent

01:09:42 All the numbers

01:09:43 Whatever you want to look at

01:09:44 The unions, the membership, the party itself

01:09:47 It's David, it's David Miliband, it's his, but we've got to go through this

01:09:50 We've got to cross the T's and dot the I's on this leadership contest

01:09:56 And we turned out Ed Miliband pipped him, his own little brother

01:10:02 Can you imagine their Christmas dinners these days?

01:10:08 Awkward

01:10:10 Just ended David Miliband's career basically

01:10:12 He was that close to being the leader of the opposition

01:10:15 And may well have been Prime Minister

01:10:17 Nope

01:10:18 Little brother nicked it off you

01:10:20 And then himself completely failed

01:10:21 Ed Miliband 0.84

01:10:25 What a freak 0.99

01:10:26 What a weirdo

01:10:27 Okay 0.97

01:10:28 Conscripted Orc says

01:10:29 Right now Restore

01:10:32 Have an inevitability about them

01:10:34 Unstoppable

01:10:37 Aim high vote low

01:10:39 Millions must go

01:10:40 It's going to happen 1.00

01:10:41 Remigration is inevitable 1.00

01:10:43 You say 1.00

01:10:46 If they run and don't win

01:10:50 Those optics will be lost

01:10:53 Not that I don't want them to

01:10:56 I'll see what you're saying

01:10:57 If they ran there and lost

01:10:59 This like

01:11:00 This veneer of undefeatability

01:11:03 Of being undefeated will vanish

01:11:05 Well yeah I mean that's true

01:11:06 If all that happens

01:11:08 It plays out like that

01:11:08 It's true

01:11:09 But

01:11:09 it's going to happen at some point anyway the store's going to stand somewhere

01:11:13 and lose at some point anyway can't be afraid of that right

01:11:17 it's like being a fighter or a race driver or something you can't be a

01:11:23 you can't be paralyzed by the fear of losing you're gonna lose at some point

01:11:27 right it's very very you can't win them all it's very very very rare that you get say a boxer

01:11:32 floyd mayweather or joe calzaghe you retire undefeated it's almost unheard of or in politics

01:11:39 Because it is unheard of

01:11:40 You're going to lose at some point

01:11:42 You can't let that hold you back, can you?

01:11:44 That's my feeling

01:11:45 My feeling

01:11:47 Okay, but you've got a point though

01:11:50 I know what you mean

01:11:51 I know what you mean

01:11:52 The optics of it aren't perfect

01:11:53 But

01:11:56 But that politics isn't perfect

01:12:00 It's really, really dirty and imperfect

01:12:02 By definition, pretty much all the time

01:12:05 That's the art of compromise, isn't it?

01:12:08 you've always got a compromise it's just an exercise in attempting something and often failing

01:12:16 over and over and over and over and over again get used to it not being perfect

01:12:21 okay the last rumble rant is from somebody called chaddy 304 i don't think i've seen their name

01:12:30 before chaddy 304 says um our first restore britain meeting tonight for wigan and leith

01:12:37 Wigan and Lee

01:12:38 Wigan and Lee

01:12:39 Nice

01:12:40 Brilliant

01:12:40 Best of luck to you

01:12:42 Makerfield

01:12:43 Is one of our constituencies

01:12:45 Lee

01:12:46 My constituency

01:12:47 Was Burnham's

01:12:48 Safe seat for years

01:12:49 We'll see you up here

01:12:50 Lewis

01:12:51 Oh great

01:12:52 Chaddy 304

01:12:53 Brilliant

01:12:53 On the front lines

01:12:54 In the trenches

01:12:56 Lovely

01:12:58 I wonder

01:12:59 I've got no special insight

01:13:01 I wonder what the

01:13:02 Leadership at Restore

01:13:04 Will do

01:13:04 Whether they'll

01:13:05 Want to do it or not

01:13:06 I, as I say, I kind of hope they do, but I'd understand if they don't, but all right, we'll

01:13:12 see, if they do, best of luck to you, Chaddy, genuinely best of luck, all right, we've got

01:13:19 some YouTube ones, YouTube ones, what have we got, a dozen or so, maybe a few more, let's

01:13:27 whip through them a bit, I'm on the podcast again today, so can't spend all morning on

01:13:33 them i'm on the podcast at 1pm which is summertime check it out okay like a bot says and coming in

01:13:47 at number one for the most based breakfast show is the real lbc lotus eaters breakfast club

01:13:54 hashtag the real lbc right here you're watching it

01:13:58 yeah and like a bot in at number one nice uh katora something called katora says good morning

01:14:11 bo harry and my fellow band of brand of brothers and sisters they've put ancestors in in brackets

01:14:17 I met yesterday at the first Restore Branch meeting

01:14:23 Best Among Us

01:14:25 Great, brilliant

01:14:25 Super

01:14:27 The ground game

01:14:28 The ground game for Restore Britain is real

01:14:31 All those naysayers and haters and defeatists

01:14:37 That said Restore Britain would never be anything other than a riotoid echo chamber on Twitter

01:14:42 You're profoundly mistaken

01:14:47 The ground game up and down the length and breadth of this country

01:14:52 Is something to behold

01:14:55 It's something remarkable

01:14:57 I've been involved in party politics on and off my whole adult life

01:15:01 I've never seen anything like it

01:15:03 Never seen anything like it

01:15:10 It's the difference between success at the ballot box and not

01:15:14 It is the difference

01:15:15 Tens of, over 100,000, 130,000 plus, is it?

01:15:20 Don't even know the last numbers of overall membership

01:15:22 A fair chunk of those people are prepared to actually turn up to things

01:15:27 And physically do stuff IRL

01:15:30 What more can you ask for?

01:15:33 Thank you, Kat Cora

01:15:36 Kat Cora, thank you for turning up to your branch meeting

01:15:40 And doing stuff and being there, making a difference

01:15:43 It's the difference

01:15:45 Can't buy it

01:15:48 People's time

01:15:49 It's the most valuable thing they've got

01:15:52 And they're prepared to give that

01:15:54 It makes my heart swell

01:16:00 If I was an Italian or a more emotional man

01:16:05 I might shed a tear right now

01:16:06 Enjoy

01:16:07 Enjoy

01:16:09 The ground game's real

01:16:13 It's real

01:16:14 We're going to take our country back

01:16:18 Great John

01:16:22 Great Johnny M

01:16:23 Great Johnny M says

01:16:26 Sell

01:16:29 Sell the entry start tune

01:16:31 As a ringtone

01:16:32 I'm not sure if we can

01:16:36 Harry

01:16:37 can we monetize that i don't know i'm joking i don't think so

01:16:41 are you saying stuff i can't hear oh no i don't think so no although one thing i will say heads

01:16:48 up to people we had some trouble with that i know people love that bit of music is a cool bit of

01:16:54 synthwave music isn't it but we've had trouble with it in the past a couple of times people

01:16:58 trying to copyright strike it and stuff unfairly so we got big harry who's a musician a genuinely

01:17:08 professional level musician genuinely to write another bit of pretty similar synth synth wave

01:17:17 music and we might we're probably gonna harry are we gonna switch to that is that a definite or no

01:17:24 yeah i'm hoping to do it in the next like week or so i just need to get it rendered

01:17:29 and i know a lot of you love that bit of music but we're gonna we're almost certainly gonna

01:17:34 change it out it's a very similar bit of music isn't it the harry what harry wrote and made oh

01:17:39 yeah yeah it's really really similar it's completely in the same vein um but then we

01:17:44 can't we won't have to suffer from like these repeated bad faith copyright attempts on it

01:17:51 which is just frustrating they are really really annoying some mornings we don't have it because

01:17:56 we're going through some cruddy copyright strike on it anyway that's enough about the music at the

01:18:01 beginning if you really like it try and record it for yourself or whatever now because we won't have

01:18:05 it forever heads up on that one okay people that go around copyright striking stuff on youtube 0.95

01:18:12 in bad faith what a scum move scumbag move all right brandon lucas says says uh is this the 0.91

01:18:23 the guy i played by gendry the guy off skins on that show how does it feel to have that weird kid 0.98

01:18:31 on skins play you i never watched skins i only watched a little bit of skin so i don't know 0.86

01:18:36 i watched i watched a bit of skins and thought it was retardedly bad 0.80

01:18:42 remember i was going out with a girl at the time and her and all her mates thought skins was 0.78

01:18:47 brilliant i remember watching it like what an episode or an episode and a half worth of it and 0.86

01:18:52 being like this is terribly written terribly acted like this is crap what this is terrible

01:18:59 why are you why do you like this what's good about this explain to me why so i never watch 0.60

01:19:05 skins i'm afraid so don't really know exactly what you're talking about there but thanks for

01:19:09 the super chat anyway brute life says hi lewis congrats to the team for the big win how far

01:19:18 along are a store to having a branch in every constituency thanks for all the hard work

01:19:22 thanks for the super chat i'm afraid i i couldn't i shouldn't have asked him that in real time i

01:19:27 wasn't i always read the super chats out at the end but um if and when he's back on i'll ask him

01:19:33 all those sorts of questions so thanks anyway shame i didn't i couldn't ask him that in real

01:19:38 time when he was on but again thank you brute life for the for the super chat okay we've still

01:19:44 got another half a dozen or more to get through kick you in the throat says that's their name 0.59

01:19:48 at kick you in the throat says um getting beard mogged over here oh yeah oh yeah it's a superior 0.76

01:19:55 beard i mean my beard's not insanely bad it's what a six out of ten beard is it i don't know 0.98

01:20:00 Is that being optimistic even

01:20:03 His is like a solid 9 out of 10

01:20:05 Solid 9 out of 10

01:20:08 What more could you ask for really

01:20:10 Yeah

01:20:12 Got totally beardmogged

01:20:14 Okay 0.97

01:20:17 The educated yobo

01:20:21 Says

01:20:22 I think Kier will stay until 2029

01:20:25 Got £10 on it

01:20:26 It might happen

01:20:27 It might happen at this stage

01:20:30 If you asked me on Tuesday

01:20:31 I would have said

01:20:32 No way

01:20:33 But at this stage

01:20:34 If they don't have

01:20:36 They don't hold a leadership contest

01:20:38 Until

01:20:38 July, August

01:20:41 So that Burnham can be in it

01:20:42 And then Keir Starmer wins that

01:20:44 Then yeah

01:20:46 Quite possibly

01:20:46 Then quite possibly

01:20:47 Like the way John Major

01:20:49 Beat Redwood

01:20:50 And just stayed on

01:20:50 Or the way Jeremy Corbyn

01:20:52 Jeremy Corbyn had a leadership contest

01:20:54 And won it

01:20:55 Didn't he

01:20:56 Whilst he was already leader

01:20:57 It's totally possible

01:21:00 Mr. Dickie Bingo

01:21:03 How are you this morning sir

01:21:05 Not Dinky Bingo

01:21:07 Mr. Dickie Bingo

01:21:08 Says

01:21:08 Obi-Wan Burnham

01:21:11 The only hope

01:21:12 Oh dear

01:21:13 Yeah

01:21:14 Why they think he's the guy

01:21:17 They're not

01:21:21 Their brain isn't

01:21:25 Andy Burnham 0.70

01:21:26 Andy Burnham

01:21:27 I was thinking

01:21:28 I was talking about this

01:21:28 just on telegram a couple of mates yesterday yesterday looking back at burnham in like the

01:21:34 labor years i remember in the labor years in sorry in the blair years he was like he's just he was a

01:21:43 nobody he wasn't taken particularly seriously he just wasn't he was it was just an also guy oh and

01:21:54 there's a few other people in blair's cabinet that you might have you might have heard their

01:21:59 name that's it you know that sort of level not one of the big beasts at all

01:22:05 like that guy that looks like he's wearing eyeliner that guy yeah that's it that's who he is

01:22:14 all he was but now he's supposed to be

01:22:17 this magic winning

01:22:21 behemoth of a political

01:22:24 titan

01:22:25 he can't lose

01:22:27 king of the north

01:22:28 get real

01:22:30 king of the north

01:22:32 yeah alright

01:22:33 ok 1.00

01:22:34 kick you in the throat again 1.00

01:22:37 says 1.00

01:22:37 anglosphere fun fact

01:22:40 semicolon

01:22:41 the tallest point in England

01:22:44 is Scarfell Pike

01:22:45 at 3,209 feet is it I thought there was another hill not much more than a hill is it I mean you

01:22:54 got many mountains in England there's Snowdon in Wales right and there's the Ben Ben Nevis in

01:22:59 Scotland but in England in England itself is it Scarfell Pike I thought there was a

01:23:04 another one anyway okay if you say it's Scarfell Pike fair enough 3,209 feet

01:23:10 people living in colorado scoffing derision at that three thousand that's barely more than a

01:23:19 hillock while a few hundred u.s towns and cities are sat above this elevation oh right yeah yeah

01:23:26 yeah yeah americans will laugh at such a thing

01:23:31 You haven't even got mountains

01:23:35 Where's your deserts and swamps bro

01:23:39 Where's your mountain ranges

01:23:40 Oh you haven't got any 0.99

01:23:41 And that's very unfortunate for you isn't it little Englanders 1.00

01:23:44 You haven't got any salt flats

01:23:49 You haven't got like any rolling giant prairies

01:23:53 Oh dear

01:23:54 How embarrassing for you

01:23:56 Yeah there's no mountains in England none

01:24:01 there's a few hills no deserts no tundras

01:24:10 no prairies all right

01:24:15 max robe says it says higher karate or brute is this one of those art simpson things

01:24:25 where i'm saying something embarrassing harry

01:24:27 i'm not sure that you just said high karate or brute i say it fast enough when i when it

01:24:38 appear that i'm saying something high karate and brute i don't know i don't get it got a

01:24:43 question mark on the end i don't get it i probably am just being silly okay sorry about that thanks

01:24:49 anyway wobbly arrow 84 funny name says restore slash reform can't win a mayor race in manchester

01:25:01 sadly i don't see why not uh i don't see why not i think the old paradigm that it's just a labor

01:25:09 lock don't buy it look at gaunton and denton a 13 000 majority in gaunton and denton

01:25:17 Labour came third

01:25:18 A long way off as well, a third

01:25:22 We're in a different world, we're in a different politics

01:25:26 Although the mayoral race is, yeah

01:25:31 I wouldn't say you're completely 100% mistaken and wrong

01:25:36 And I wouldn't say that

01:25:38 But I feel like what you're saying there

01:25:41 The sentiment of what you're saying there

01:25:42 Isn't as strong as it was

01:25:44 Definitely not as strong as it was, I'll say that

01:25:46 I'll say that

01:25:48 Will someone other than Labour

01:25:50 Win the mayoral ship

01:25:52 In Manchester

01:25:53 I don't know

01:25:55 I've seen what the bookies say

01:25:56 What the polls say

01:25:57 Labour probably still get it

01:25:59 Won't they

01:25:59 To be honest

01:25:59 I'll probably still get it

01:26:00 Whether it's an absolute gimme

01:26:03 I wouldn't say so

01:26:05 I wouldn't say so

01:26:07 A lot of people

01:26:09 Even in Manchester 1.00

01:26:10 The natives 1.00

01:26:11 The white working class

01:26:12 Feel unbelievably betrayed

01:26:16 By the fact that their country and city

01:26:19 Is flooded by 1.00

01:26:20 By foreign barbarians

01:26:22 And they're told that they're racists 0.93

01:26:25 And bigots for noticing it

01:26:26 I think that the depth

01:26:29 Of that

01:26:30 The feeling of the betrayal

01:26:31 Of that

01:26:32 Can't really be underestimated

01:26:37 I think, could be wrong

01:26:38 Could be wrong, you know

01:26:39 But we'll see

01:26:42 Okay, last two

01:26:44 Last two we've got here

01:26:47 King Philip 1861

01:26:50 Says

01:26:50 Was King George III thought of as a German

01:26:54 Being from the house of Hanover 1.00

01:26:56 I suspect that must have

01:26:58 Affected American animosity

01:27:00 Towards the crown

01:27:00 That's very very interesting

01:27:02 So George III was of course the grandson of

01:27:04 George I of Hanover

01:27:07 The elector of Hanover

01:27:08 So it's only like one

01:27:10 Two generations

01:27:11 Down

01:27:13 Jules III

01:27:15 Yeah I mean Jules I never learnt English properly

01:27:20 Or hardly at all

01:27:21 So yeah I mean he was thought of as German

01:27:26 In various ways

01:27:26 I still think of King Charles III in 2026 as a German

01:27:30 Half German

01:27:31 Saxe-Coburg and Gotha

01:27:32 The House of Hanover 0.95

01:27:37 What Americans 0.67

01:27:40 I guess you're talking about in the

01:27:43 the age of the war of independence what american colonists who became citizens of the united states

01:27:50 whether they thought of george iii as a german or not i don't know

01:27:55 there's not that much of that in the sources in the accounts it's not like some giant not that

01:28:01 i've seen not i'm aware of some giant long speech by someone like patrick henry or john adams

01:28:06 complaining about that the king is german they might mention it from time to time in fact they

01:28:09 did, but it's not like a massive thing, from what I've read. Thomas Jefferson constantly

01:28:15 mentioning that George III is German. No, not really. Interesting, that was an interesting

01:28:21 point. People did appreciate it and did think that, though. As I say, I still think of the

01:28:28 House of Windsor as German to this day, pretty much, kind of.

01:28:34 Only changed their name to Windsor during World War I, because Saxe-Coburg and Gotha

01:28:38 sounded too german or just is highly german okay and the last super chat from from wobbly arrow 0.97

01:28:49 again says too many wets libtards blair rights non-voters and students sad face

01:28:57 oh what like in manchester yeah you were the person that also said reform labor can't win 0.98

01:29:05 a mayoralship in manchester you say you just say there's too many wets libtards blair rights and 1.00

01:29:11 non-voters and students in manchester you may well be right you may well be right you could 1.00

01:29:14 possibly be right you know we shall see we shall see all right we've got one more um rumble rank

01:29:22 came in i might as well read it while we're here um and it's from reigning champion jetlag89

01:29:29 He says

01:29:30 He says

01:29:32 Happy Friday all boasters

01:29:34 Boasters

01:29:37 B-E-A-U

01:29:38 Boasters

01:29:39 I hope you all have a grand weekend

01:29:43 Are you Irish?

01:29:44 Irish people say grand, don't they?

01:29:46 Have a grand weekend

01:29:47 Bo, did your parents name you to manifest how you would appear in later life? 0.97

01:29:59 yeah you've also put in brackets they're no homo just for the record just for the record 0.81

01:30:06 i i put beard both you and lewis by the way get mogged

01:30:15 i guess that you meant out i out beard both you and lewis by the way get mogged well

01:30:21 fair enough i can believe it for me find it hard to believe you've got a better beard than lewis

01:30:29 That's difficult to believe

01:30:32 Thanks for the super chat though

01:30:36 Now my parents named me after Bo Brummel

01:30:39 And that was only a nickname

01:30:43 His real name was George

01:30:44 His real name was George Brummel

01:30:46 His name was only a nickname

01:30:48 He was called Bo

01:30:48 Don't give me that name

01:30:51 I like it, it's unique

01:30:54 Other than a little bit of bullying at primary school

01:30:57 Bo wears your arrow, that sort of thing

01:30:58 After that

01:30:59 Which was never actually really bad

01:31:01 Unique

01:31:03 It's better than being called

01:31:04 Like Chris or Dave

01:31:05 In my opinion

01:31:06 No criticism

01:31:07 Of all the Chris's

01:31:08 And Dave's out there

01:31:09 Which is not many people

01:31:12 Are called Bo

01:31:13 Although on Twitter

01:31:14 Before now

01:31:14 I've typed in

01:31:15 Bo on Twitter

01:31:17 Search

01:31:18 And see if there's

01:31:19 Anyone else called Bo Dade

01:31:20 You know

01:31:21 When you're bored

01:31:22 Or how many people

01:31:24 Are called Bo

01:31:24 There's quite a lot of people

01:31:25 Called Bo in the world

01:31:26 Nearly all Americans

01:31:27 it's quite a fair few of them a few of them have got massive accounts as well one guy that's in

01:31:33 some band i've never heard of but he's got hundreds and hundreds of thousands of followers

01:31:37 quite a lot of bows all right anyway that's enough about bow

01:31:39 that's the show it's now 34 minutes past nine in the am british summertime on friday the 15th of

01:31:48 may in the year of our lord 2026 you've been the glorious band the chosen few my band of brothers

01:31:52 thank you for watching this morning and all week without you it's not a thing i hope you enjoy the

01:31:57 rest of your day and indeed the coming weekend try make the best of the time if you can most

01:32:03 valuable thing you will ever have is your time end it wisely up a dm seize the day if you can

01:32:09 all right until monday morning then take care

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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - May 15, 2026

Breakfast With Beau ｜ Friday 15th May 2026

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