The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - Breakfast With Beau ｜ Friday 15th May 2026

00:00:00.000 Good morning. You alright? I hope you are. I sincerely hope you are.

00:00:11.160 Many apologies for being ever so slightly late. It's two minutes past. Two minutes past

00:00:15.400 eight in the a.m. British summertime. Tardy. Tardy. Apologies. But we've got a guest this

00:00:21.200 morning via Zoom so we just had to check everything was okay. Which it is. It is now Friday isn't

00:00:27.780 it that friday feeling thank f it's friday the 15th of may in the year of our lord 2026

00:00:35.220 as always i'm joined by my producer little harry how are you this morning good sir

00:00:38.820 morning yeah more good good great great and who are you guys

00:00:45.940 come now you know who you are you're the glorious band the chosen few my band of brothers

00:00:50.500 and sisters without you isn't a thing thank you for joining me really sincerely

00:00:54.660 There's no way to express how sincerely I mean that

00:00:59.540 Without you it isn't anything, it really isn't

00:01:01.240 Okay, it's another sort of largely labour day

00:01:06.760 Burnham, Angela the Fridge Rayner 1.00

00:01:09.340 It's a queer starling, the whole nine yards 1.00

00:01:12.100 But I do have a guest 1.00

00:01:15.000 And I'm going to go through it with them

00:01:16.820 As always, that sort of thing

00:01:18.240 So we are privileged to be joined by none other

00:01:22.920 than Lewis the Beard Brackpool of Restore Britain fame.

00:01:27.120 How are you, sir?

00:01:29.400 I'm very well, thank you, Beau.

00:01:31.120 It's great to see you.

00:01:32.020 I think the last time we spoke,

00:01:34.000 I had a little too much to drink, I think,

00:01:36.300 because we were pre-celebrating the elections

00:01:39.500 up in Great Yarmouth.

00:01:40.680 So it's great to see you, man.

00:01:42.280 Yeah.

00:01:42.800 No, thanks for coming on.

00:01:43.660 Really, really appreciate your time.

00:01:45.200 And if anyone who doesn't know,

00:01:46.120 apart from just being like an online personality

00:01:50.260 in your own right,

00:01:50.860 you do actually work for Restore Britain.

00:01:52.600 so you're in the team and everything yes absolutely absolutely maybe let people know a

00:01:59.720 little bit about what you did before that with like your freedom of information requests and

00:02:03.940 all that sort of stuff how you got sort of involved in all this just in case there's

00:02:07.280 anyone out there any mad people out there that aren't aware of who you are okay yeah no problem

00:02:13.440 um so my name is lewis brackpool i've been doing journalism for about five years got into it

00:02:20.100 straight after the COVID madness because I felt like I was being lied to. So I went out with a

00:02:25.840 cameraman and a friend, sorry, a friend who was a cameraman and I went out with a microphone

00:02:31.060 and started asking people questions. That snowballed into something that I never thought

00:02:37.620 I'd ever predict. Worked for various organisations as a reporter and a journalist. Started, well,

00:02:44.420 found out a bit more about the Freedom of Information Act and how we could utilise it

00:02:48.880 against the government and started just annoying and pestering the government by using this

00:02:55.620 particular act and trying to acquire data from them to basically embarrass them and then once

00:03:02.120 Restore Britain was started up I got a phone call from a Mr Charlie Downs who's a friend of the show

00:03:10.280 and a very good friend of mine in real life and I got the call from Restore to ask to join to set

00:03:18.420 up the Restore's Investigations Unit and whistleblowing line to basically help with concerns

00:03:26.280 regarding that, whether it be within government or the wider public life.

00:03:31.260 And it is an absolute, and this is a bit of a cursed word, but I'm going to use it anyway,

00:03:36.100 it's an absolute privilege to be part of Restore Britain.

00:03:40.600 And we are really hitting the ground running.

00:03:43.000 And it's an exciting time in British politics.

00:03:46.380 Absolutely.

00:03:47.540 He was there from one of the very, very, very earliest members.

00:03:51.420 So amazing stuff.

00:03:52.960 Brilliant.

00:03:53.360 And the team seems to be growing all the time from what I gather.

00:03:55.460 When I was down there in Great Yarmouth,

00:03:56.720 there was quite a lot more people working for the party

00:03:59.500 than I thought there were.

00:04:00.460 So it's great.

00:04:01.200 It's all the trajectory, the momentum is all onwards and upwards.

00:04:05.860 It certainly is.

00:04:06.860 It certainly is.

00:04:07.480 I'm super excited to see where we go next.

00:04:10.760 So, yes.

00:04:12.340 Brilliant.

00:04:13.000 All right.

00:04:13.640 Let's just have you.

00:04:14.460 I believe you understand the format of the show.

00:04:16.520 might have seen breakfast before perhaps and so we uh we go through the papers and just talk all

00:04:23.240 about it and i'll get your takes and ask if you've got any uh tidbits from sort of inside the the

00:04:29.080 thinking of restore on various bits and bobs if you're allowed if it's not sort of a secret or

00:04:33.560 anything so um all right today is a day where it's all sort of uh still kia starma stuff so

00:04:40.120 if i uh if we go straight to harry can you bring up the papers there

00:04:46.520 on the script on our screen can you do that all right anyway

00:04:53.160 anyway can people see that the papers front page of the papers there you go there you go there it

00:05:01.580 is all right well little harry a bit flustered this morning uh pray for harry okay uh we'll

00:05:08.780 quickly whip through the uh some of the front pages get to the eye paper because it's got all

00:05:12.740 like the half a dozen main points that we could talk to but talk about the

00:05:16.340 Star Wars battle as Burnham handed route back to Westminster that's probably the

00:05:20.300 big one the Metro gross rivals okay all right all right the Sun burn to run baby

00:05:26.060 he was burned to run the Daily Telegraph Burnham launches bid for

00:05:32.400 number 10 did it do that Burnham Burnham makes move really

00:05:36.500 Keir Starmer's behind bars

00:05:37.820 The Guardian

00:05:39.480 Bid to topple

00:05:42.320 Bid to topple in a by-election

00:05:44.160 The star Crash and Burnham

00:05:46.300 Very clever, very, very clever

00:05:48.060 Alright, here we go

00:05:49.860 Streeting and Burnham start leadership battle

00:05:53.000 To force out Starmer

00:05:54.280 Okay, let's go through these a bit

00:05:56.080 In a bit more detail

00:05:57.220 Keir Starmer's Labour critics

00:05:59.780 Make their move

00:06:01.660 So that's one of the big things, the first thing

00:06:03.420 Streeting quits yesterday, right?

00:06:06.500 and we got his letter

00:06:08.120 I don't know if you read it

00:06:09.780 it was a bit

00:06:10.380 I didn't

00:06:11.280 it was a bit obsequious

00:06:12.540 and a bit like

00:06:13.100 thank you so much

00:06:14.060 for letting me serve

00:06:14.860 in your government

00:06:15.400 and

00:06:15.820 like the only thing

00:06:17.700 he really said

00:06:18.280 some papers described it

00:06:19.440 as like some sort of

00:06:20.180 blistering withering attack

00:06:21.600 it wasn't

00:06:22.300 it's cool

00:06:22.580 there's one bit where he goes

00:06:23.720 there's a bit of a power vacuum

00:06:25.100 at the top of

00:06:25.940 of cabinet

00:06:26.600 that's about it

00:06:27.860 and then at the end

00:06:29.580 again he's like

00:06:30.600 thank you so much

00:06:31.460 it's been the privilege

00:06:32.160 of my life to work with you

00:06:33.380 anyway

00:06:34.180 and we got

00:06:35.360 starmer's letter back okay like really passive aggressive weak letter stuff yeah oh it's been

00:06:41.360 great to work with you thank you for all your work you've done over the time anyway anyway all

00:06:46.740 right but he didn't launch a leadership bid street he quit but didn't launch a leadership

00:06:53.820 bid now whether that's because he didn't actually have the 81 mps to back him or whether there's

00:07:02.220 some sort of there's been some sort of grand strategy deal in the background all of Keir

00:07:07.620 Starmer's enemies clubbing together and deciding the one overarching strategy is to get Burnham in

00:07:13.040 I don't know but what do you think of that streeting and various other ministers Jess

00:07:17.300 Phillips quitting but not still a formal leadership bid not being triggered yet it is interesting I

00:07:24.680 know that uh quite recently Starmer gave I think a bit of a stern warning to his MPs saying you 0.99

00:07:31.560 know if you do quit uh you know you will let reform in uh and we don't want that x y and z

00:07:37.800 so it is fascinating to see sort of the iron bar being hammered from uh keir starmer from behind

00:07:45.580 the scenes it is quite fascinating but um no i i mean i mean we've had two governments in a row now

00:07:53.360 do this where they they put out these really weak wet lettuce letters out saying i'm resigning i've

00:08:01.280 had enough i'm sorry i can't handle it anymore it's been an absolute privilege to serve you

00:08:05.860 you know it happened under the boris government um with so many mps deciding to quit because of

00:08:12.380 the vaccine passports and now we're seeing something very very similar i don't know i think 0.99

00:08:18.500 in my view it would be terrible if we had a general election right now a snap election which

00:08:24.920 i don't think is going to happen from restore britain's point of view you mean from our position

00:08:29.560 yeah in my in my in my own personal view yes i think that would be a disaster um it wouldn't be

00:08:37.200 great uh but i don't i think keir starmer is too much of a narcissist to actually back down

00:08:43.760 um so i actually don't know what's going to happen um but i presume because of what keir

00:08:52.220 starmer's like in terms of the way that he's got the way that he's governing and the way his

00:08:58.760 personality is uh essentially robotic is i don't think he's going anywhere personally even though

00:09:05.880 that there has been a little bit of a revolt i don't know what your take is yeah no my feeling

00:09:10.780 at the moment is the the labor party all starmers starmer and the opposition starmer in the labor

00:09:21.040 party are gonna sort of let the burnham thing and that by election play out and then see where they

00:09:28.880 are there and even if he does if burnham doesn't win that then okay that's a different timeline if

00:09:35.440 he does then there's a leadership race which takes a while and anyway some people saying that all of

00:09:42.480 this might not come to a head until labour party conference which is in september yeah well as you

00:09:49.920 this moment in time on this morning i wouldn't be surprised if we are looking at that now

00:09:54.320 yeah absolutely and you know politics unfortunately is about 60 to 70 optics so they'll want to do it

00:10:03.520 they want to time it right if they want to do a kind of leadership bid i mean i mean we say this

00:10:09.640 every time be careful what you wish for you know obviously stalin is stalin starmer that was a bit

00:10:16.280 of a slip uh starmer was um was well starmer's awful obviously we know that i don't need to

00:10:24.120 go into detail about that we obviously don't like him and the way he governs obviously but you never

00:10:30.340 know what's around the corner if he's pushed aside and then a new leader is put in i mean

00:10:36.300 optically it's it would be awful to have angela rayner um as as the next leader uh you know i

00:10:45.760 I know that there's this big bid for Burnham,

00:10:48.440 but he needs to win a by-election first

00:10:50.340 if he's actually confirmed properly to stand.

00:10:53.440 I know he put out a tweet last night saying that he's,

00:10:56.720 I believe, looking to stand.

00:10:58.840 I think that's the last I've seen,

00:11:01.360 but I'm not sure if there's been any updates since.

00:11:04.040 Yeah, no, there's been a whole bunch.

00:11:05.380 So yesterday I reported on the Beau show, Breakfast with Beau,

00:11:09.120 I reported that a particular MP was going to stand down.

00:11:13.660 What was it? Afzal Khan.

00:11:15.760 only told you guys that because that's what the rumors were that's what the papers were saying

00:11:20.560 turns out it wasn't him it's another guy josh simons right okay so so josh simons um has actually

00:11:30.160 resigned he's actually fully done it already he did that last night there's like his letter is

00:11:36.020 published as well interestingly he explicitly said it was just to stand aside for burnham

00:11:40.440 I didn't think you was allowed to do that

00:11:42.820 But obviously you are 1.00

00:11:43.620 He's a real scumbag 1.00

00:11:46.900 He's a young guy 1.00

00:11:48.200 He's like a die hard

00:11:50.840 Die, die hard

00:11:51.760 Labour 1.00

00:11:52.260 Forever

00:11:55.720 He was thrown out of

00:11:58.020 He was in cabinet I believe

00:11:59.420 And he was thrown out because of a scandal to do with

00:12:01.640 That he was spying on journalists

00:12:04.680 And

00:12:06.560 Starmer had put him in charge

00:12:08.560 Of the ID card

00:12:10.760 Initiative 0.84

00:12:11.460 So that guy

00:12:14.340 That Josh Simons 1.00

00:12:15.580 What a scumbag 1.00

00:12:17.800 Again a perfect example 1.00

00:12:20.820 Of somebody I wouldn't want in

00:12:22.580 Power in parliament

00:12:23.800 Nowhere near it 0.96

00:12:25.260 Just like an amoral commie 0.98

00:12:27.780 Yeah

00:12:29.420 But he's stepped down now

00:12:31.140 Because he's a burning man

00:12:32.820 So he has actually stepped down

00:12:35.980 So that will trigger that by-election

00:12:37.480 Right

00:12:38.560 Okay, and that's in, what's it called in, what's it called?

00:12:43.000 Makefield.

00:12:44.800 Makefield, Makerfield.

00:12:46.120 Makefield.

00:12:46.840 Makerfield, yeah.

00:12:49.280 So, the next thing was, is Burnham going,

00:12:53.920 are the Labour Party going to select Burnham?

00:12:56.640 Because they're sort of in a sanctum of power,

00:13:00.080 the NEC, the National Executive Committee,

00:13:02.680 where there's only like eight, 10, 12 people in it,

00:13:05.480 like the most senior people in government.

00:13:08.560 With the Gorton and Denton thing, they blocked him almost unanimously, I think,

00:13:13.360 very close to unanimously.

00:13:15.560 Well, they've now come out this morning, insiders,

00:13:18.540 and said the NEC won't block Andy Burnham from that, which is interesting.

00:13:22.920 Very, very, very interesting.

00:13:24.560 I thought that would be a massive, massive hurdle,

00:13:26.520 a massive internal battle for Burnham or Burnham's camp.

00:13:30.880 It doesn't seem to have been.

00:13:31.820 I mean, what do you think of that?

00:13:32.820 What's changed since Gorton and Denton when they said,

00:13:35.180 no, no, he's best placed to be mayor.

00:13:36.980 we need all our best people as mayors but now no i mean what do you make of that i think time is

00:13:43.920 just running out for labor and i think they're just getting desperate um and i think when when

00:13:49.420 a power struggle happens within government when a when a government becomes unbelievably popular

00:13:54.900 the only way to kind of save it is to either bring in a new face that will try and galvanize

00:14:01.540 people and i think to pick burnham as the guy to do that i mean is laughable i mean didn't the guy

00:14:06.680 vote for the iraq war and uh wasn't there something to do with inquiries happening um that he's

00:14:14.220 allegedly shot down i'm not sure yeah he's embroiled in sort of pouring cold water on

00:14:20.780 sex gang inquiries in the past yeah i heard about that yeah um so not quite the it's either getting

00:14:29.440 a new fresh face in um to struggle with power or it's a war um you know it's it's an actual

00:14:37.560 it's a war that you that you you're put in and i mean a conflict no i don't mean a war within

00:14:44.420 power struggle i mean an actual war um to sort of galvanize people um and i think they're just

00:14:52.480 getting incredibly desperate and i think i think they you look at the results from labor i mean

00:14:58.880 the turnout on the local elections from you know various other places apart from great yarmouth

00:15:04.020 was pretty low but seeing labor lose nearly 1500 council seats in one swooping blow i mean that

00:15:13.320 must do a lot of damage to not only uh not only the party but of course bruising the ego if you

00:15:22.320 know if uh if kirsten actually reacts to something like that i mean you can't even tell

00:15:26.680 so we'll see

00:15:28.740 we'll see

00:15:29.480 really was bruising wasn't it

00:15:32.380 and like losing control in

00:15:34.820 Wales

00:15:35.400 breaking a political stranglehold

00:15:39.080 in Wales that they've had for a hundred years

00:15:40.780 yeah

00:15:41.840 from Keir to Keir

00:15:43.500 Keir Harley to Keir Starmer

00:15:46.640 I mean bookending it with a Keir

00:15:48.400 yeah the interesting thing is

00:15:51.020 well when you said a minute ago

00:15:52.900 that their great hope

00:15:54.980 the thing the person they hope will will draw them back back from the precipice uh will save

00:16:03.260 them from electoral annihilation is andy burnham that's laughable yeah yeah can i just make a

00:16:12.560 broader point here that people don't seem to be saying i haven't seen many people any real people

00:16:16.240 in the mainstream media sort of saying this but if you remember if you're old enough i might you

00:16:22.880 might just about be old enough it's when i was more like a teenager times um in the blair years

00:16:28.940 and the brown years a bit burnham was like barely b team like burnham wasn't he wasn't like some

00:16:38.800 he's quite popular within the labor party membership it wasn't massively popular in the

00:16:43.300 country or anything like i was like as soon as we've got burnham as leader we're going to win

00:16:47.080 the next general election no why are you thinking that where do you get that calculation from

00:16:50.540 He's just another low-T 1.00

00:16:53.540 Soyboy 1.00

00:16:54.340 Parlour in Pinko 0.89

00:16:56.260 He's nothing, he's a nothing man

00:16:58.040 You look back at the early Blair years

00:17:01.020 You look back at people

00:17:03.260 Like a lot of them

00:17:05.280 Jack Straw

00:17:06.320 Robin Cook

00:17:08.280 Someone like David Blunkett

00:17:11.080 They're all 1.00

00:17:13.460 Disgusting Fabian socialists 1.00

00:17:14.900 But they were formidable men 1.00

00:17:16.840 They were

00:17:18.600 they were formidable political operators right they weren't to be trifled with type politicians

00:17:25.840 yeah someone like Andy Burnham was bottom of the barrel then right they're like kick him out in the

00:17:32.540 end after 20 odd years whatever just to put him down into like the the minor leagues go and let

00:17:38.360 him be a mayor somewhere he's not like that's the sort of level he is where this calculation comes

00:17:43.380 from within Labour that like it's burn them or bust burn them will save us what I don't get it

00:17:49.400 do you no I don't get it I mean you can really test and see how much a party or an organization

00:17:57.600 within the party likes a particular politician by where they go next after a kind of an in

00:18:04.660 of a uh a premiership of some sort I mean what did Blair do as soon as he finished up here I mean

00:18:11.680 technically he carried on really he continued his legacy but through the tory party and everywhere

00:18:16.400 else but where were they put you know we even had communists lit actual communists being put

00:18:23.680 in places like the who um and you know various organizations here burnham burnham was like you

00:18:33.360 said just just give him a mayor role like somewhere random place like just give him a mayor role and

00:18:39.480 just you know keep him in the sidelines there and it's actually funny to see how much he is

00:18:46.580 respected which is not that much i mean i don't know yeah i i never said when it started coming

00:18:57.140 out what like not that long after starmer got into power really what within six months even

00:19:02.100 you sort of hear rumors of burnham you know i'm already i'm like but who cares the andy burnham

00:19:11.320 like the yeah yeah the bottom of tony the dregs of tony blair's barrel like the scrapings of the

00:19:17.980 bottom of the blairite era really that's run for leadership a number of times and never won it

00:19:23.260 because again he's like west streeting or he's like kiss time yourself comes across to me as a

00:19:31.240 weak a weak person physically yeah so politically morally there's like there's no he's not a fire

00:19:41.860 brand is he he's like the david brent of the labor party essentially again he's like he seems to me

00:19:49.900 quite so sort of effeminate even i don't know like well why they think in the labor party that

00:19:57.220 he's that like their magic bullet back to to get um for re-election no idea it really is like the

00:20:06.280 oh yeah well it just shows the dearth of talent in the labor party i suppose really right if

00:20:15.220 that's the best they can all agree or most of them agree apart from the far far far left of

00:20:20.500 the party they can all agree that burnham's the guy really right okay you got all right

00:20:25.580 Burnham.

00:20:25.960 Mental.

00:20:26.800 All right.

00:20:27.160 So this by-election is going to happen then?

00:20:30.760 Yeah.

00:20:31.600 It's not a safe Labour seat.

00:20:33.700 No, it's not.

00:20:34.720 The majority there, I think, is something like that Josh Simons,

00:20:38.920 5,000, 5,300 or something?

00:20:42.060 It's not razor thin, but that's not what you'd call

00:20:44.600 a particularly safe seat, is it?

00:20:46.900 No.

00:20:47.920 No, not at all.

00:20:48.760 And I think the polls are, well, obviously,

00:20:50.960 they would have shrunk for Labour anyway, but I think I saw,

00:20:53.540 i think what was it uh labor was polling at uh 24 percent i think i'm not sure if that's the

00:20:59.660 latest polls uh for how well in that area you mean in that in that area compared i think reformer

00:21:06.820 polling at around 50 um for that area which is massive i think that's what i saw i think last

00:21:13.760 night it's quite massive it's quite a big gap um it's quite fun to look at that's my that's the

00:21:22.560 funniest outcome for me that the nec let him do it he runs and just totally totally loses

00:21:29.040 everyone in the labor party that wanted him every single anti-kir person in the labor party that

00:21:36.540 opinion all their hopes on burnham that they're just all just like like what like what now like

00:21:44.340 that was that was our one strategy that was our guy yeah our guy is gone i did see that in the

00:21:50.940 local elections in that area it was just a full bald sweep for reform yeah now you know obviously

00:21:57.940 you i know you know the local elections and parliamentary elections are very very different

00:22:02.580 beasts they really are i mean one is a good indication of the other but but they're not

00:22:07.820 the same thing there's all different dynamics going on on a number of different levels however

00:22:12.100 Still

00:22:13.260 The whole place

00:22:15.600 Literally the whole place swept reform

00:22:18.260 By reform

00:22:19.220 So okay and it's not a safe seat

00:22:21.960 I mean to put it in some context

00:22:23.360 That Gaunton and Denton

00:22:24.800 That had

00:22:26.720 That was a much safer seat

00:22:28.440 The Labour majority there was more like 13,000

00:22:31.820 Labour came third in it

00:22:34.120 Yeah

00:22:35.260 So

00:22:36.000 So they're complete in other words

00:22:38.760 The Labour strategist here

00:22:41.360 or the Burnham camp strategists, are utterly, utterly relying,

00:22:45.460 really, really leaning on the fact that he's just so crazily popular

00:22:50.600 in Manchester that he's the king of the north, king of the north,

00:22:55.000 and that wherever he sits, he will, wherever he stands,

00:22:58.940 he'll just definitely win it.

00:23:00.500 I don't think that's a given, do you?

00:23:02.580 No, no, absolutely not.

00:23:04.340 And I saw the video.

00:23:05.900 I don't know if you saw it.

00:23:07.080 I think he was with Greater Manchester in a committee,

00:23:09.640 and he was just getting hounded by the general public i think some woman was literally standing

00:23:15.720 over pointing at him and just shouting as loud as she could to try and make her voice heard fair

00:23:22.160 play to her um mate he was getting ripped an absolute new one um and it's all on video

00:23:28.880 and it's just how can you even think that this guy is popular there i i just think it's another

00:23:35.320 case of you know internal factions believing within their bubble that they have a popular

00:23:40.500 candidate or they know the best interests for the British people it's one it's one of those

00:23:45.860 once again very out of touch to the point where it's almost it's almost sinister you know I mean

00:23:53.380 it's it's almost like how do you not see that the public really hate you at the moment like

00:23:59.800 really despise you and you it's just falling on such deaf ears i mean i mean it's the definition

00:24:07.500 of of careerist bubble uh so i don't know we will see but um yeah burnham losing catastrophically

00:24:17.140 uh is kind of what we want right that would be funny and of course he's got to resign from being

00:24:22.380 the mayor of manchester as well so that that will be uh there'll be another election for that

00:24:27.580 Be nice if Labour didn't win

00:24:30.520 That as well

00:24:31.300 If Reform or the Greens or whoever picked that up

00:24:34.580 As well, that would be nice

00:24:36.240 Actually, that leads me slightly onto something

00:24:38.360 You may or may not be able to tell me

00:24:40.040 So feel free to say, I just don't know

00:24:42.380 Or I can't tell you

00:24:43.360 Do you know if Restore

00:24:46.240 Have got any

00:24:47.960 Intentions of putting someone up there

00:24:50.080 In this by-election

00:24:52.000 Or even in the mayoral election

00:24:53.920 That there will be in Manchester

00:24:55.040 so um the party line at the moment is we haven't come to a formal decision yet so that's where

00:25:02.220 we're at at the moment in my own personal opinion that's separate um from the party line

00:25:08.380 and i'm putting that on record that this is my own personal opinion yep um i i think we should

00:25:16.840 watch and see who is going to stand for reform you know it could be a boris wave candidate

00:25:23.640 it could be a parachuted in someone from within their their party it could be Zia I highly doubt

00:25:31.760 it but it could be it could be anyone so I think in my personal opinion I think we should see who

00:25:38.300 is going to stand in that by election from reform and just play it by ear although you know I can

00:25:48.400 think of two people who would be fantastic you know for that particular by-election however

00:25:58.380 at the moment we haven't come to a formal decision I had a feeling that that question

00:26:05.480 was going to be asked so yeah I think it's it's a very exciting time I don't know if you saw the

00:26:12.780 betting odds as well i mean restore was third to win and we have and there's no there's been

00:26:19.100 no formal decision uh being made yet i think betting odds have put us third to win um which

00:26:25.980 is fascinating yeah i believe it's only five percent um but still for us to be prompted

00:26:33.440 on on on that i mean we're not even getting prompted on polls as you know um yet yet we're

00:26:41.460 managing to to deliver i mean great yarmouth from the great yarmouth uh first results and

00:26:48.000 campaigning there seven days in a row and watching the count and being there when they announced the

00:26:54.160 winners uh i mean i'm still on a high now and it was just fantastic i mean you saw when you came up

00:27:01.660 and uh we had a brief chat and i was going around on the doors and you briefly we briefly had an

00:27:06.960 interaction and obviously a friend nate um friend of the show nate who who joined some of the door

00:27:13.440 knocking as well uh to see what it was like um yeah i mean that was an overwhelming victory so

00:27:21.420 it is possible it is certainly possible um but just to reiterate yes the decision uh hasn't

00:27:30.440 been formally made yet fair enough no fair enough i see all sorts of people like even

00:27:35.540 semi woodhouse all sorts of people asking i mean i immediately ask myself the question oh i wonder

00:27:40.300 if they will or not um but yeah what's your view what's your view on it

00:27:45.140 if i could just call all the shots if i was rupert i probably i probably would i would put

00:27:53.300 someone there even if the polling looked like we wouldn't actually win it because it's i probably

00:28:00.680 would just because it's experience it it it puts the flag up saying we're prepared we we we are

00:28:10.200 prepared to to to gamble with the with the reputation we're not afraid of losing all those

00:28:16.360 various things that we're up for it we're a we're a we're a real party that's going to contest

00:28:22.680 anything and everything we can yeah that would be my feeling my opinion that would be my personal

00:28:28.280 opinion um and also i feel like i think it's fair to say that anywhere that is right leaning anywhere

00:28:38.660 that's like a a tory area or certainly a reform area that's where restore are likely to do best

00:28:45.260 you know it's strong like lib dem and the few remaining labor strongholds are maybe a lost

00:28:52.520 calls for restore or some constituencies in london that are just entirely for almost entirely foreign

00:28:59.560 tower hamlet's areas or whatever somewhere like west streetings seat in ilford north or whatever

00:29:04.680 yeah not so much but somewhere that's like um um like a disaffected disenchanted

00:29:12.360 part of manchester working class part of manchester where reform just cleared up i feel

00:29:17.160 like that's a really good place for restore to give it a go i feel like um yeah i feel just my

00:29:24.640 personal opinion again if i was at the helm i'd be like i'd sort of um want to to uh foster a

00:29:33.720 feeling of not being afraid yeah like yeah i hear you may well you may well come second or third or

00:29:40.300 fourth but okay so be it that's politics yeah but we're gonna throw our hat in the ring that was my

00:29:45.620 feeling but if you guys decide that it's still too early there's not enough time things like

00:29:51.080 that uh that's also i think without sounding like too much for sycophane i actually genuinely think

00:29:56.520 that's fair enough uh because restore is still so young isn't it let's not forget it's still

00:30:04.280 it's barely out of the crib really only a few months old formerly so i get it but anyway and

00:30:11.520 Look at what we've done and look at what we've done in the meantime, right?

00:30:15.260 I mean, it is just unbelievable.

00:30:17.640 I mean, we could have halved the votes from Great Yarmouth.

00:30:20.280 We could have halved each candidate's vote, the nine seats that we won,

00:30:25.120 and we would have still won.

00:30:26.700 The margin of success was remarkable, wasn't it?

00:30:28.860 I mean, in a local election, it really was.

00:30:30.760 And I'm not saying that to, you know, I'm being very biased here.

00:30:34.340 I'm trying not to be as biased.

00:30:36.800 But seriously, when you look at the number crunch, you look at the turnout.

00:30:40.580 I mean, the candidate I was campaigning with, Michael French, fantastic bloke, when we were out campaigning for him, he was he was a little bit wobbly.

00:30:51.100 He wasn't sure what would happen.

00:30:54.020 But then when the results came in and he got a forty nine point five percent turnout and I think it was over eighteen hundred votes for a local election, whereas I think reform had like eight hundred.

00:31:06.000 um i mean it was unbelievable genuinely unbelievable i i'm so so happy um but yes

00:31:14.180 you know regardless of what we decide to do obviously i back rupert's and the team's decision

00:31:20.040 if we do decide to do it um i'd be more than happy to door knock again that was really fun

00:31:25.940 canvassing is a lot of fun knocking on doors um and just trying to find out voting intention

00:31:32.300 i loved it i thought it was great go out with a team with a map and try and uh you know find

00:31:38.960 voter intentions from different closes i thought it was great you know we've really got to look at

00:31:44.020 um these tactics now um and really sort of home in on on the formula to win it winning great

00:31:53.000 yarmouth first and applying that nationwide now we've set the precedent now so yeah in my total

00:31:59.620 opinion i agree why not um i i i think personally my view we should um you know there's a lot of

00:32:07.980 people online talking about splitting the vote splitting the vote i'm so bored of that paradigm

00:32:14.240 i'm done with that nobody owes owns your vote nobody not a single party not even restore owns

00:32:21.460 your vote it's up to us it's up to the party in question to galvanize the public to prove

00:32:30.140 that we are the real deal and to say this is why we you should vote for us and the big reason is

00:32:37.880 that we will not stand careerist politicians and that we are outside of the establishment where

00:32:43.000 the rest of the parties have decided to cozy up to it including reform as we know

00:32:49.660 so yeah absolutely yeah i am done with that argument that argument is what kept is what kept

00:32:58.700 our politics a two-party thing conservative and labor for so many decades you can't split the

00:33:04.980 vote otherwise the other side again no that whole paradigm can go take a long walk off a short pier

00:33:10.940 not interested in any of that or you might split the reform vote don't care don't care yeah they're

00:33:16.300 as much a political enemy as the lib dems so i don't care yeah or you might look laboring well

00:33:22.880 that's politics yeah what what yeah we're gonna vote for what we want we're gonna vote for a party

00:33:28.480 that's patriotic and at least a bit nativist is that too much to ask no no no so i'm not and reform

00:33:36.620 are just uni party containment aren't they they really are just the two tories so i'm not interested

00:33:41.640 in hearing from them you're going to split the vote don't care yeah i don't get away from me with

00:33:48.140 that um okay so um one other thing i want to ask you why we're talking about restore and everything

00:33:54.620 and uh the local um i believe because we had uh harrison in the other day he was telling me that

00:34:01.500 he was doing a bit of um a bit of the vetting as well he talked to me a little bit about that

00:34:08.860 because obviously that's one of the biggest things isn't it you want to you want the right people

00:34:13.580 and um so how was that experience for you doing a whole bunch of of the vetting side of stuff

00:34:20.080 yeah obviously i don't want to diverge into too much detail of course naturally um but it's been

00:34:27.320 very very eye-opening it's been fascinating um we've had all sorts of people from all walks of

00:34:33.220 life uh come forward and want to be part uh of the movement i mean it's unbelievable the amount

00:34:39.620 of people that have applied uh to want to either become uh branch organizers or just to get

00:34:45.920 involved i mean you know our inbox is just continuous it just doesn't end um so it's it's

00:34:52.720 wonderful to see the galvanization and see the amount of people that are willing to not just

00:34:58.460 vote for us not just become members but actually want to get involved i mean i set up a branch

00:35:04.580 in horsham um where i am and i was expecting about 40 to 50 people to turn up and i think we got 120

00:35:14.800 turn up i didn't have enough chairs people were sitting on the floor to try and listen to um

00:35:22.100 you know, what we were talking about and trying to get people involved in volunteering.

00:35:28.720 And unbelievable. It's been wonderful. So on the vetting side, well, as we know, I think

00:35:37.500 looking at other parties, let's say, and how they are vetting their candidates is absolutely

00:35:44.420 atrocious absolutely atrocious so we're bearing in mind um you know trying to do as much as we can

00:35:52.540 uh to plug the holes essentially of of anyone trying to come in whether it be an infiltrator

00:35:58.960 whether it be uh someone with a a bit of a an interesting past let's say i mean didn't we have

00:36:06.360 a reform council that's just been elected that uh is leading a double life as a porn star i believe

00:36:12.600 is that correct did you read something on twitter briefly the other day on that yeah yeah yeah i

00:36:17.400 mean yeah we we want to avoid stuff like that really um so so i think it's been a fascinating

00:36:26.680 learning curve obviously you know you have to bear in mind we're not going to get everything correct

00:36:31.240 you know it's impossible it really is impossible uh to be 100 perfect and i understand um that

00:36:39.020 people are dismayed within British politics as am I this is the reason why I'm here is because

00:36:45.380 finally that there is a home and so you know we're not going to get it all right of course we're not

00:36:52.220 and there will be in the future who knows someone or you know whoever that will slip through the

00:36:58.700 cracks that's natural that that will happen it's just a case of how we deal with it and I'm very

00:37:06.220 confident in our team as well that have been helping out with not just the vetting but the

00:37:11.360 organization and the logistical skills behind the scenes um absolutely fantastic team um and we

00:37:18.600 really do work as a team to try and help each other and support each other um during this

00:37:23.740 process because it's tough and we're dealing with a lot of people a lot of people um so

00:37:30.960 you know we have our we have our um ear to the ground and our eyes watching uh making sure that

00:37:38.140 you know everything is going smoothly and we're just looking out for the right people um and who

00:37:45.000 has the correct skill set for each different role like a branch organizer um and yeah i think next

00:37:52.880 stop is candidates so that's going to be incredibly um interesting so we shall see

00:37:59.560 oh okay let's get back to the papers here and uh just quickly run through the couple other things

00:38:06.700 so uh we're told uh west street ing resigns as health secretary uh with devastating critique

00:38:12.480 of pm's performance not performance not really he said there was a bit of a vacuum at the top

00:38:16.820 it was actually really he was actually sort of pretty sycophantic towards him if anything

00:38:21.940 andy burnham sets his sights on becoming uk's next prime minister and mp uh as mp stands down

00:38:28.200 That's that Josh Simons

00:38:29.360 To offer him possible route

00:38:32.240 Back to Westminster

00:38:33.020 He will campaign on cost of living

00:38:35.080 Quote

00:38:35.420 Much bigger change is needed

00:38:37.240 At a national level

00:38:38.200 Quote

00:38:38.540 Okay

00:38:39.720 Okay Andy

00:38:41.160 If you say so

00:38:42.820 Yeah yeah yeah

00:38:43.380 Alright

00:38:43.680 You're more of a social

00:38:45.120 You're the more

00:38:46.160 Tax more spend more

00:38:47.820 Classic

00:38:48.520 That's all he is

00:38:49.760 There's nothing

00:38:50.340 As if he's Andy Burnham's economics

00:38:54.080 Are somehow

00:38:54.640 Brilliant

00:38:56.140 Burnham economics

00:38:58.060 yeah burn them on burn them on it i can't even say um okay reform stands in way of his commons 0.97

00:39:06.360 return yeah nigel nigel said you can't blame him of course he would right it's the obvious move 0.86

00:39:12.560 he said oh we're gonna throw the kitchen sink at this one then oh yeah yeah we'll try and uh

00:39:17.120 we'll try everything to to win that seat um we'll put it this way if we do decide to stand

00:39:23.020 whatever decision makes and if we do decide i'll tell you what i'm going up i'm going up to door

00:39:29.920 knock and i think we'll have a an army of patriots up there to help with the canvassing and to help

00:39:36.260 with the volunteering like great yarmouth so we'll probably throw the kitchen sink as well

00:39:40.820 you know if that is the decision yeah that'd be nice every vote that doesn't go to labor

00:39:47.220 love it yeah okay uh what have we got there uh rest of the cabinet must now decide how long they

00:39:55.720 stick with starma or whether they encourage timetable for a leadership contest i've never

00:40:00.480 bought this idea that starma's going to agree to a timetable for leaving like tony blair did it's

00:40:06.840 very very rare it's the only example i can really think of where that happened at all was tony

00:40:13.460 and that was because there was a very very specific pact with him and Gordon Brown I don't

00:40:18.900 know where they keep coming up with this get Keir Starmer to agree to a timetable to leave he won't do

00:40:24.200 that no of course not no of course not obviously there is a lot wrong um with our with our politics

00:40:31.220 um you know for example uh I think when you have when you have someone in say local elections uh

00:40:41.560 whether it be reform or whoever uh there's trouble within like minute things within politics that

00:40:50.200 need to be changed as we know uh you know rules standing around like you know you must stand

00:40:56.200 if someone like a big defection happens for example like call it call a little by-election

00:41:03.000 you know if if someone votes you in and you haven't gotten the consent from your voter base

00:41:10.600 your constituency uh in terms of you know who they decided to vote for there needs to be i think

00:41:17.220 there needs to be in my personal opinion some rules around that some changes but when it comes

00:41:21.500 to a timetable i mean i don't think that this government is ever going to agree it all uni

00:41:29.100 the whole uni party is not going to agree to a timetable of course not of course not they what

00:41:34.460 they want to cement their legacy even if they even if it is awful even if the legacy is awful

00:41:41.500 and they're just so tone deaf they can't even see it they want to cement that they want their arc

00:41:48.740 just as nigel wants his arc you know so none of them are going to agree to to such a thing

00:41:54.420 yeah yeah yeah as soon as you do of course your your sort of your political authority is

00:42:01.600 massively undermined people are like well i don't have to do or listen to anything you're saying

00:42:06.480 because on this date you're gone so you truly do turn yourself into like a zombie leader

00:42:13.560 a zombie cabinet or whatever um so i can't believe that and as we've already said i think on this

00:42:19.720 stream i've certainly said a bunch of times before i just don't think that's what star was like as a

00:42:24.040 man as a politician as a strategist for what it's worth is that no i'm in power now i will stay i

00:42:30.800 I think yesterday even I invoked Ceausescu or Mao or something.

00:42:35.160 No, I'm in power and I will stay in power

00:42:38.020 and the rest of the world can collapse and burn around me

00:42:41.140 before I just give it up.

00:42:43.520 I feel like that's what he's like.

00:42:45.860 Yeah.

00:42:46.600 Well, that's what I gauge.

00:42:47.920 That's what I'm gauging from Starmer.

00:42:50.000 So I think that's a good observation.

00:42:53.160 Okay, last couple of things here.

00:42:56.160 Streeting calls for, quote,

00:42:57.860 the best possible field of candidates

00:42:59.920 and battle of ideas not factions yeah all right bro all right yeah yeah if you say so bruh yeah

00:43:08.240 i feel like i feel like he either i feel like he either hasn't got those 81 mps or he's just

00:43:15.260 fallen in line with the the overarching strategy of its burn or bust yeah okay yeah and the last

00:43:24.420 Angela Rayner settles her £40,000 of unpaid stamp duty

00:43:27.580 after HMRC investigation.

00:43:29.720 What do you think of that it was on the morning

00:43:32.220 of the day of resignations, the very morning...

00:43:35.840 Funny that.

00:43:36.800 ...that she got cleared of any wrongdoing.

00:43:39.760 Took her a while, didn't it?

00:43:41.320 Yeah.

00:43:42.540 Yeah. 0.74

00:43:43.680 Like I said earlier, majority of politics is all optics.

00:43:48.120 So when there is...

00:43:49.540 It's optics and opportunity.

00:43:51.980 so when you find that there is a leadership bid miraculously all these scandals just suddenly

00:43:59.740 like disappear or they they disseminate or they get resolved so yeah funny timing that

00:44:08.180 i don't know very very convenient for ms rayner yeah yes okay indeed what have we got um just

00:44:17.480 quick whip through the rest of the headlines and so it begins labor's great pretenders oh yes

00:44:25.320 they're the great pretenders what a pack of losers look at this not an ounce of testosterone between

00:44:33.640 actually rain has got more tea than either of these two numpties actually uh the express pure 0.97

00:44:42.120 filth look the king really worried about anti-semitism really really really worried

00:44:46.200 about anti-semitism didn't say a peep about uh southport but all right didn't say a peep about

00:44:51.320 wayne broadcast but okay all right yeah worry about the jews and gold is green though yeah yeah

00:44:55.560 yeah yeah yeah all right so we had a poll we did a poll didn't we harry can you bring that up for me

00:45:03.800 um let's see what did we we asked you guys just over 1200 votes loads more ticking in

00:45:11.240 be 1300 in a moment uh we asked do you think andy burnham will win his by-election

00:45:18.280 no 63 say no 24 say 25 say maybe all they know is their gut says maybe and 12 say yes

00:45:32.280 so 63 again if you i say if it nearly every morning if you've got that on a national

00:45:37.320 referendum you'd claim complete

00:45:39.360 and that's a victory wouldn't you on that

00:45:40.780 yeah

00:45:42.060 5300 odd majority

00:45:45.240 that's not 0.52

00:45:46.360 they really got a hope that it's just his

00:45:49.220 whole king of the north shtick

00:45:50.920 that wins it for him that's their

00:45:52.940 that's a bit of a shaky

00:45:55.240 thing to hang everything

00:45:57.200 on isn't it alright

00:45:58.880 let's have a look at

00:46:00.400 a few more stories today

00:46:02.840 and then I'll let you go

00:46:05.200 so

00:46:06.820 they're on the bbc look uh it's stummy it's like i'm thinking like a turtle you know sometimes

00:46:12.660 when you see people and they put you in mind of a an animal one way or another you know like

00:46:18.420 jess phillips a horse obviously for example i'm getting like a turtle vibe off of andy burn

00:46:26.580 oh my god a claymation turtle okay is it because of the shape of his head is that why yeah

00:46:35.140 yeah just uh yeah um was there what there was one or two others uh that burnt it's multiple

00:46:42.980 burnham it's burnham or bust hashtag burnham or bust um so trump's in uh in china with winnie the

00:46:50.560 pooh and apparently they're getting on really well um yeah and and he's sort of trump sort of

00:46:58.440 talking to him all about iran trying to leverage stuff in iran there's one story in the mail i

00:47:03.560 thought was was uh of mild interest let me see if i can find it um oh no anyway it was about nigel

00:47:12.900 it was about nigel's five million pounds that's in the news cycle yesterday and today a bit and

00:47:19.340 that um he actually said that he bought a home a 1.4 million pound home with cash probably not

00:47:26.600 literally physical notes but in other words he just paid for it all up front in one go

00:47:31.640 1.4 million pound house after he received that 5 million pound gift um i mean have you been

00:47:38.560 keeping up with this story at all do you think there's anything there there because you know

00:47:42.480 just quickly say on one end of the spectrum it could be absolutely 100 completely legit he didn't

00:47:47.340 break any rules or regulations and this is nothing this is just his enemies trying one more gambit

00:47:52.880 to try and get him it could be that it's really nefarious and dodgy and corrupt and he will

00:47:58.880 actually lose a seat they'll recall him and they'll have left to have a by-election there and

00:48:02.860 he's disgraced what are you i really don't know we have to see what the investigation is what do

00:48:06.880 you think i haven't been keeping properly up to date with it if i'm totally honest because it's

00:48:14.540 just it's just one of those things is another bit of nigel noise you know in terms of not necessarily

00:48:21.240 like i i don't understand like i don't get what's going on with him i saw his tweet about um mr

00:48:28.840 habib um i did see that i don't know if you saw that oh yeah yeah we made a video on it about it

00:48:34.580 on state of politics yeah he um i know he's threatening or he has put in legal action um

00:48:42.200 you know because i think he's i think habib made some uh comments regarding i don't know if that

00:48:48.160 was in conjunction with this particular yeah yeah yeah real quick about that just real quick let

00:48:56.060 people know what you're talking about there so nigel got given this five million pound by this

00:48:59.940 millionaire um didn't declare it perhaps should have declared it that's what the actual inquiry

00:49:05.280 would be about need he have declared it or not anyway he's just given five million quid ben

00:49:09.800 habib the other day goes on the internet and uh says i'm just going to tell you a story now

00:49:18.220 and the powers the people like nigel and that harbourn guy they can sue me if they want but

00:49:25.200 this is the truth and then went on to allege that it was all stitch up going back years going back

00:49:32.120 to the boris years million pounds thrown around here and there backroom deals here or there

00:49:36.800 all sorts of sort of if they're untrue slanderous things if they're true devastating things for

00:49:44.380 nigel um so all sorts of allegations okay ben habib did that um and nigel did come out and

00:49:53.480 sweet right i'm starting legal action against you now ben because ben habib was like because people

00:49:58.760 do that all the time well not all the time but that's not a completely unheard of thing to

00:50:03.320 allege something and you know it's true and you say yeah take me to court i'm perfectly comfortable

00:50:09.880 confident in myself that you won't take me to court because i know i'm speaking the truth

00:50:14.120 and then when people don't take you to court it's sort of indicated on that but when they go

00:50:18.360 oh no i am taking you to court though that is a liar that is libelous slanderous or whatever

00:50:23.480 well Nigel did yeah Ben Habib played that card and Nigel's like no I'm gonna take you to court bro

00:50:28.160 so we'll see I guess it's just another one of those things just watch sit back with some popcorn

00:50:35.580 yeah I mean yeah I mean it's one of those situations in it we just have to sort of

00:50:42.940 wait and see what happens with that because I have no idea like I'm out I'm out of that like

00:50:49.060 you guys go and have your argument over there like yeah slowly back away from that one

00:50:55.360 yeah yeah literally like the homer simpson meme literally back into the bushes like okay we'll

00:51:01.280 just leave you to it like pretty bizarre um no i think my in my view i don't know too much about

00:51:08.960 this uh particular thing that's happening i did see under the same breath that nigel um said even

00:51:16.480 according to uh elon musk that he um i think he said something he claims that he was being given

00:51:24.000 money i'm not sure if this is this is you know word for word what he said so you know take this

00:51:30.380 with a pinch of salt but it said something like loosely about how musk tried giving him money to

00:51:37.920 tell him to like tell him to say certain things or you know policy or whatever and he said no

00:51:44.740 allegedly and then i saw musk tweeted underneath nigel saying you know this is this is just this

00:51:51.160 is a lie this is totally untrue and i think it was around the same line of question i think it

00:51:57.080 was for the sun it was always his name cole i forgot his name but they were i think he was

00:52:02.980 being questioned about this particular money um situation and then he was i think farage was doing

00:52:10.900 his showmanship thing where he would

00:52:12.940 say, well, I've been, I can't

00:52:14.940 be bought. Yeah, alright, bro.

00:52:18.200 Yeah, didn't you have

00:52:18.920 a cameo account where you were literally bought

00:52:20.740 for like 70 quid at a pop?

00:52:24.200 Yeah. I mean

00:52:24.880 talking about big chungus. 0.89

00:52:27.040 Yeah. Harry, bring 0.95

00:52:28.960 up this article real quick. Yeah, so this

00:52:30.880 is a bit of a thing with, a bit of a spat

00:52:32.840 with Nigel and Elon where

00:52:34.900 apparently Nigel had said

00:52:36.720 that Elon

00:52:38.820 offered him money

00:52:40.900 And that he, Nigel, turned it down

00:52:43.300 And Elon just came out and said

00:52:46.400 Flat up said, quote

00:52:48.600 Farage is lying

00:52:50.540 That's what

00:52:51.880 Uncle Elon said

00:52:54.520 He just called him a liar

00:52:56.560 That's not true

00:52:57.620 Then other people say

00:52:59.480 Some people say that Elon

00:53:02.240 Has offered or given money to restore

00:53:05.900 I don't believe that's true

00:53:07.560 I think he might have offered

00:53:08.440 He might have said something

00:53:09.360 Might have hinted at it

00:53:10.220 But

00:53:10.900 as far as i'm aware he hasn't actually ever given restore a penny as far as i understand i i don't

00:53:15.860 know i'm not the the bursar i'm not the treasurer of restore but i don't believe he has neither

00:53:22.900 right okay no i i have no idea i have no idea i couldn't tell you it's above my pay grade yeah

00:53:28.900 yeah all right fair enough okay well um we're getting towards the top of the hour and i've

00:53:34.820 still got to do on this day in history must run brands and super chats lewis thank you very very

00:53:38.820 much for joining me it's a pleasure as always hopefully we'll have you back at some point

00:53:43.620 before too long hopefully we'll get you in absolutely in the studio in swindon you'll

00:53:47.860 be on the podcast massive friend of the channel so um once again thanks very much for your time

00:53:53.300 and i hope you have a great day no keep up the hard work and uh hopefully yeah i'll see you in

00:54:01.860 person again very very soon brilliant thank you sir okay okay louis the beard brackpool there

00:54:10.740 i'm just calling him that that's the first time as well so i'm just i've just made that up

00:54:16.180 that's a great beard it's a luxuriant beard it's a sort of beard a boy would dream of

00:54:23.380 okay all right let's do on this day in history on this day down through the centuries

00:54:31.860 What happened? Harry, would you mind moving the thing ever so slightly to the left so I can, you know, I mean, yeah, a tiny bit more, actually, if you don't mind, just so I can see.

00:54:45.300 That's it. That's it. Thank you. Thank you. All right. So on the 15th of May, going through centuries, what happened?

00:54:50.240 of note okay on this day in 1252 pope innocent the fourth issues the papal ball of x add x to a

00:54:59.440 panda probably mispronouncing that uh which authorizes but also limits the torture of

00:55:05.300 heretics in the medieval inquisition uh yeah there you go sort of the the roman inquisition

00:55:13.480 nobody expects the spanish inquisition not many people expect the roman inquisition

00:55:19.360 But there you go

00:55:21.420 There's a lot that could be said about that

00:55:24.320 But whenever I have in the past

00:55:26.580 Once or twice

00:55:27.680 Talking about Galileo for example

00:55:29.580 Who wasn't actually tortured

00:55:30.920 He was only shown the implements of torture

00:55:33.560 Whenever I've talked about 1.00

00:55:35.700 Torture at the hands of Catholics 1.00

00:55:37.560 In the medieval period 1.00

00:55:38.700 I often get a load of Catholics in the comments 1.00

00:55:41.840 Going mad 1.00

00:55:42.460 Trying to rewrite history

00:55:44.640 Trying to say it never happened or whatever

00:55:46.300 I'll just move on then

00:55:49.660 Heaven forbid we offend some Catholics

00:55:53.280 Alright, on this day in 1615

00:55:56.240 German astronomer Johannes Kepler

00:55:58.920 One of my all-time favourites, Kepler

00:56:00.400 Discovers, I don't say discovers

00:56:02.960 Discovers the third of his three planetary laws

00:56:06.100 The harmonic law

00:56:07.260 Love Kepler

00:56:08.480 There's the original, the original, original

00:56:11.500 Carl Sagan Cosmos

00:56:13.580 1970s documentaries about space and science one of those episodes is almost in a big big chunk of

00:56:20.360 it most of it is dedicated to talking about the life and career and thought and mathematics of

00:56:25.360 kepler absolutely pivotal person kepler's up there with like newton or uh clerk maxwell or something

00:56:33.240 kepler absolutely pivotal person um in human advancement in human civilization

00:56:39.820 yeah the third and a fantastically interesting life as well um lived through the wars of religion

00:56:46.980 everything loads of stuff loads of things went down in his life other than just working out

00:56:52.000 how the universe operates the third planetary law if i recall i'm no scientist i'm no physicist

00:56:58.200 no mathematician but it's to do with working out how the time of an orbit how long it takes

00:57:04.000 a body to orbit there's like a very very very specific relationship between that and um

00:57:13.120 what like how how big the orbit is sounds quite it might sound a bit obvious to us now

00:57:18.240 imagine it's the early 17th century that was that was entirely new i mean they were still dealing

00:57:25.440 With Ptolemaic

00:57:26.760 Ideas about perfect solids

00:57:29.440 And stuff

00:57:30.900 About how there were nested

00:57:33.220 Perfect shapes in the cosmos

00:57:35.060 Crazy 0.97

00:57:37.300 Crazy medieval nonsense 0.99

00:57:38.540 Is that okay 0.82

00:57:40.960 The planetary laws

00:57:43.480 Of Kepler

00:57:45.120 Pivotal thing

00:57:46.600 In human civilization

00:57:49.040 On this day in 1841 0.97

00:57:51.020 First emigrant wagon trail

00:57:53.360 To reach California

00:57:54.440 Think about here now, California

00:57:56.600 Where he leaves Independence, Missouri

00:57:59.060 On a 1,730 mile journey

00:58:01.900 Over the higher Sierra Nevada mountain range

00:58:04.860 Yeah, again, do you remember yesterday?

00:58:06.160 I think it was yesterday, wasn't it?

00:58:07.200 They had a thing about

00:58:08.520 The Lewis and Clark expedition

00:58:11.100 In the age of Jefferson

00:58:13.340 What, 1804, 1806?

00:58:15.240 Something like that, wasn't it?

00:58:16.780 So look, it's still another 35 years after that

00:58:19.420 Before a true concerted effort

00:58:22.640 Even begins

00:58:24.800 For

00:58:26.360 Citizens of the United States 0.98

00:58:29.320 To settle California

00:58:30.880 1841

00:58:33.780 That's like

00:58:34.320 Only 25 years before the Civil War

00:58:37.760 I just always find it interesting

00:58:41.700 How late it is

00:58:43.580 That the United States

00:58:45.620 Moved right out to the West Coast

00:58:50.320 And people

00:58:51.980 Started living there in any big numbers

00:58:54.720 That's so late to me

00:58:56.160 You might think that process started 100 years before that

00:58:59.060 Or more

00:58:59.480 No

00:59:00.120 Okay

00:59:02.400 On this day in 1869

00:59:04.920 National Women's Suffrage Association forms in New York

00:59:09.160 Founded by Susan B. Anthony

00:59:10.840 Okay, I don't really care

00:59:11.740 On this day in 1940

00:59:13.620 Richard Maurice MacDonald

00:59:15.760 Opened the first McDonald's restaurant

00:59:18.660 In San Bernardino, California

00:59:20.860 i'm just calling california californie now

00:59:24.380 um yeah mcdonald's first ever mcdonald's 1940 interesting i love mcdonald's with me

00:59:33.660 i know it's i know it's processed slop highly processed i love a big mac though if i'm just

00:59:41.160 honest with myself big macs are lovely okay on this day in 1951 at&t becomes the first

00:59:49.440 US corporation to have a million stockholders after a young car salesman Brady Denton purchases

00:59:55.780 seven shares worth $1,078. You've got shares in AT&T. Nice. That gives you a measure of

01:00:06.500 it, doesn't it? In 1951 money, seven shares were already worth over a grand. It's quality

01:00:16.840 blue chip stock that is okay and on this day in 1988 the Soviet Union begins withdrawing its

01:00:23.760 115,000 troops from Afghanistan yeah I may well I want to do some content about the Soviet war

01:00:34.660 in Afghanistan at some point it's one of those things I've been interested in on and off over

01:00:39.560 the years exactly what happened and the the the u.s involvement there's a tom hanks movie once

01:00:47.520 wasn't there and the stinger missiles and and why why it was that the soviet union failed so

01:00:53.440 miserably in a purely military sense in afghanistan in the 70s and 80s it's an interesting

01:01:01.280 story of course 1988 it's after chernobyl you're getting right towards the end of the soviet union

01:01:07.940 now all right that's the end of the gorbachev times nearly only a few more years to go

01:01:14.420 well the fall of berlin was in 89 isn't it the soviet system formally collapsed in 1990 or is it

01:01:20.020 1991 so we're right near the end of the soviet experiment there interesting fascinating all

01:01:27.540 right should we do our rumble rants and super chats let's have a look at that stuff

01:01:33.220 all right so the we always do rumble rents first don't we it's fair few actually we've

01:01:40.660 got a fair few rumble rents and superchats so rumble rents oh global church history's

01:01:47.540 been pipped again i mean kudos to uh jetlag 89 the early bird catches the worm

01:01:56.420 but okay so anyone is watching the bow show for the first time

01:02:03.080 global church history always nearly always gets in first

01:02:06.800 there it is we got a contender got a pretender to the throne

01:02:12.800 and new all right jetlag89 says on this day in 1532 the english church the english church

01:02:22.780 submits to henry the eighth in passing the submission of the clergy the church surrenders

01:02:28.520 its right to make provincial laws independently of the crown yeah at the moment on epochs my

01:02:33.800 my history themed show behind the paywall on lotusseaters.com you can see to sign up for as

01:02:39.640 little as five pound a month bronze team membership at the moment over 260 episodes

01:02:44.740 all long form so a few hundred hours of me talking about history everything from gobekli tepi through

01:02:51.120 To the 1980

01:02:53.360 Iranian embassy siege

01:02:55.060 SAS Iranian embassy siege in London

01:02:56.640 And anything and everything in between

01:02:58.500 On there, you've got loads and loads of content about the monarchy

01:03:01.360 The English monarchy

01:03:02.680 Well, going back to

01:03:05.100 Roman Britain, all the way through

01:03:07.440 I've got stuff with that

01:03:08.960 Elizabeth Haverin about King Arthur

01:03:10.520 The mostly fictional King Arthur

01:03:12.320 The Arthurian legend, all the way through King Alfred

01:03:15.140 From Alfred all the way on

01:03:16.640 From Alfred

01:03:19.020 through to at the moment i'm on henry the eighth i just think last sunday was the end and the death

01:03:25.800 of natural causes of henry the seventh henry tudor henry the eighth's dad this sunday is

01:03:31.180 henry the eighth part one on bow day's epochs so i shall be talking i don't talk about it in this

01:03:38.940 one because i'm just setting it up talking about his early life and his early reign a little bit

01:03:42.040 of wolsey i'm going to do henry the eighth thing loads and loads and loads of detail be many many

01:03:45.860 parts so in probably a week or two maybe as much as a month i'll be getting to

01:03:52.660 the full break with rome

01:03:56.820 and when henry decides he's going to be the head of a church in england

01:04:03.620 and his demand that they submit to his will his regal will so yeah thanks for that jetlag thanks

01:04:11.700 to that we'll get to it soon on epochs in as much detail as i can muster almost

01:04:17.620 okay in at number two global church history you can't win more mate don't beat yourself up

01:04:24.820 you say today in 221 ad liu bay probably pronouncing that wrong uh was made emperor of the

01:04:31.540 hand beginning the three kingdoms period um he's one of the most famous ones isn't he one of the

01:04:35.780 Of the more famous ones

01:04:36.620 That one

01:04:38.380 He was

01:04:38.780 He was like

01:04:39.280 Did you say

01:04:40.240 He founded 0.99

01:04:41.000 The Han 1.00

01:04:41.420 Yeah 1.00

01:04:41.600 Made

01:04:41.860 Made the first emperor 0.99

01:04:43.320 Of the Han 0.79

01:04:43.780 Yeah he's one of 0.98

01:04:45.920 The more famous ones

01:04:46.500 He's considered

01:04:47.440 As I understand it

01:04:48.860 Chinese history 1.00

01:04:49.760 Isn't my 1.00

01:04:50.300 My real wheelhouse

01:04:51.920 I've got a long

01:04:54.060 Form piece of content

01:04:54.740 All about

01:04:55.100 The first emperor

01:04:56.040 Of China 0.90

01:04:56.620 But that's like 0.74

01:05:00.380 400 years

01:05:01.320 Before that

01:05:02.040 That's like

01:05:03.320 In the 200s BC

01:05:04.420 That one 0.99

01:05:05.060 Qin Shi Huang Di 0.96

01:05:08.420 If I pronounce that

01:05:10.740 Really terribly

01:05:13.800 Qin Shi Huang Di

01:05:17.580 But that's 400 years before this guy

01:05:21.360 And yet he is one of the more famous ones

01:05:23.500 He's known as like a really benevolent

01:05:26.420 Sort of kindly good warlord

01:05:29.120 He's a warlord

01:05:30.040 He became an emperor

01:05:32.140 Made himself an emperor

01:05:33.260 but he's thought of it's like some sort of paragon of rulership okay and then the other

01:05:41.600 thing you say because you usually give us two thanks church history global church history the

01:05:45.840 other one you say is what have you said and in 1501 on this day in 1501 miguel and gaspar

01:05:52.820 corta real sets out towards what they later named labrador so yeah they're like um that's just before

01:06:00.080 the age of Magellan isn't it they're Portuguese guys Labradors up Canada isn't it it's way up

01:06:06.560 up the top of Canada all that stuff they were both lost at sea and their father was an explorer as

01:06:12.800 well Miguel I can't remember what happened to one of them was just lost at sea as well just

01:06:19.520 disappeared one day into a squall or a fog never seen again interesting interesting okay next one

01:06:28.400 Skulldrazer

01:06:31.040 Skulldrazer just says first

01:06:33.440 You're third

01:06:36.700 You think you can beat 0.85

01:06:39.620 Global Church History and Jetlag

01:06:41.700 89 by coming in

01:06:43.700 At 3 minutes to 9

01:06:45.260 3 minutes to 8

01:06:46.340 Oh no

01:06:47.280 That's not good enough I'm afraid

01:06:49.540 Must try harder

01:06:51.320 I'm only mucking about

01:06:54.400 You sent another one in

01:06:55.600 Skulldrazer

01:06:56.380 I hope everyone is having a boatiful morning

01:06:59.660 Thank you

01:07:00.260 Thank you

01:07:01.880 Boatiful

01:07:04.280 Well it's beautiful isn't it's the same spelling

01:07:07.000 But he's put Bo in capitals

01:07:08.360 Yeah I hope everyone is having a great morning

01:07:11.560 Looking forward to the weekend ahead hopefully

01:07:13.200 Okay 14 Barber says

01:07:15.720 Morning Bo you alright?

01:07:17.100 Yeah I'm alright

01:07:17.560 Are you sir?

01:07:18.660 I hope so

01:07:19.100 You put

01:07:20.060 Lewis Brackpool is always

01:07:22.260 Is always an interesting segment

01:07:24.920 Restore are third in Makerfield

01:07:28.140 According to Ladbrokes

01:07:29.320 It's potentially

01:07:31.800 A very funny by-election

01:07:33.740 Yeah, it could be, couldn't it

01:07:35.180 Who knows, if Restore did want to stand somewhere there

01:07:38.240 They might not tell

01:07:39.540 But if they do and they try really hard

01:07:41.800 Who knows

01:07:44.060 Who knows

01:07:44.740 Could turn that into a win

01:07:47.700 Think positive

01:07:49.840 Alright, the next one

01:07:51.440 BoneappleTeaParty

01:07:53.260 says bow and lewis today question mark we are spoiled rotten this labor leadership dram

01:08:01.180 and probably drama you probably meant this labor later labor leadership drama is like

01:08:08.040 game of thrones but without a scintilla of testosterone yeah it's right it is like a bit

01:08:13.080 like that look there's not much testosterone is there flying around in that leadership contest

01:08:21.500 okay

01:08:23.500 the scripted

01:08:26.020 orc says have you considered

01:08:27.880 he's being allowed to run by Keir because

01:08:29.920 he knows he isn't going to win

01:08:32.040 what Andy Burnham yeah maybe I mean

01:08:33.660 yeah it may be

01:08:35.620 that's totally totally possible

01:08:37.540 Keir Starmer knows the numbers the

01:08:39.740 ultimate numbers and is confident

01:08:41.940 that he Keir Starmer will win

01:08:43.860 yeah

01:08:44.140 thing is if it comes down to

01:08:48.040 the membership

01:08:49.920 the Labour Party membership

01:08:51.900 after everything's shaken out

01:08:55.080 and there's only two remaining

01:08:56.500 and those two are

01:08:57.740 Burnham and Starmer

01:08:58.820 I think everyone is saying

01:09:01.280 that Burnham

01:09:02.200 Burnham wins that

01:09:03.820 like easily

01:09:04.700 I guess Keir Starmer

01:09:10.020 if what you're saying is true

01:09:11.340 which may well be true

01:09:12.100 that he expects he would just win

01:09:14.020 at a much earlier

01:09:14.840 point than that

01:09:16.220 he would get 50%

01:09:17.640 But before that stage

01:09:20.580 But who knows

01:09:21.840 Who knows

01:09:23.880 If anyone remembers when Ed Miliband

01:09:26.260 Beat his own brother

01:09:28.260 David Miliband to be leader

01:09:29.940 After Gordon Brown would it be

01:09:31.860 That must have been after Gordon Brown

01:09:33.440 Everyone

01:09:35.960 Everyone was saying

01:09:37.160 Well this is a lock for David Miliband

01:09:39.620 David Miliband is the heir apparent

01:09:42.040 All the numbers

01:09:43.420 Whatever you want to look at

01:09:44.200 The unions, the membership, the party itself

01:09:47.120 It's David, it's David Miliband, it's his, but we've got to go through this

01:09:50.660 We've got to cross the T's and dot the I's on this leadership contest

01:09:56.500 And we turned out Ed Miliband pipped him, his own little brother

01:10:02.880 Can you imagine their Christmas dinners these days?

01:10:08.520 Awkward

01:10:10.100 Just ended David Miliband's career basically

01:10:12.220 He was that close to being the leader of the opposition

01:10:15.520 And may well have been Prime Minister

01:10:17.820 Nope

01:10:18.500 Little brother nicked it off you

01:10:20.000 And then himself completely failed

01:10:21.980 Ed Miliband 0.84

01:10:25.140 What a freak 0.99

01:10:26.080 What a weirdo

01:10:27.580 Okay 0.97

01:10:28.100 Conscripted Orc says

01:10:29.420 Right now Restore

01:10:32.360 Have an inevitability about them

01:10:34.680 Unstoppable

01:10:37.580 Aim high vote low

01:10:39.840 Millions must go

01:10:40.480 It's going to happen 1.00

01:10:41.960 Remigration is inevitable 1.00

01:10:43.540 You say 1.00

01:10:46.600 If they run and don't win

01:10:50.040 Those optics will be lost

01:10:53.880 Not that I don't want them to

01:10:56.560 I'll see what you're saying

01:10:57.780 If they ran there and lost

01:10:59.740 This like

01:11:00.600 This veneer of undefeatability

01:11:03.060 Of being undefeated will vanish

01:11:05.460 Well yeah I mean that's true

01:11:06.520 If all that happens

01:11:08.300 It plays out like that

01:11:08.980 It's true

01:11:09.320 But

01:11:09.640 it's going to happen at some point anyway the store's going to stand somewhere

01:11:13.280 and lose at some point anyway can't be afraid of that right

01:11:17.420 it's like being a fighter or a race driver or something you can't be a

01:11:23.660 you can't be paralyzed by the fear of losing you're gonna lose at some point

01:11:27.360 right it's very very you can't win them all it's very very very rare that you get say a boxer

01:11:32.740 floyd mayweather or joe calzaghe you retire undefeated it's almost unheard of or in politics

01:11:39.180 Because it is unheard of

01:11:40.100 You're going to lose at some point

01:11:42.360 You can't let that hold you back, can you?

01:11:44.780 That's my feeling

01:11:45.380 My feeling

01:11:47.560 Okay, but you've got a point though

01:11:50.520 I know what you mean

01:11:51.060 I know what you mean

01:11:52.140 The optics of it aren't perfect

01:11:53.660 But

01:11:56.080 But that politics isn't perfect

01:12:00.000 It's really, really dirty and imperfect

01:12:02.060 By definition, pretty much all the time

01:12:05.340 That's the art of compromise, isn't it?

01:12:08.100 you've always got a compromise it's just an exercise in attempting something and often failing

01:12:16.680 over and over and over and over and over again get used to it not being perfect

01:12:21.980 okay the last rumble rant is from somebody called chaddy 304 i don't think i've seen their name

01:12:30.740 before chaddy 304 says um our first restore britain meeting tonight for wigan and leith

01:12:37.120 Wigan and Lee

01:12:38.320 Wigan and Lee

01:12:39.660 Nice

01:12:40.060 Brilliant

01:12:40.460 Best of luck to you

01:12:42.480 Makerfield

01:12:43.980 Is one of our constituencies

01:12:45.660 Lee

01:12:46.300 My constituency

01:12:47.120 Was Burnham's

01:12:48.120 Safe seat for years

01:12:49.380 We'll see you up here

01:12:50.740 Lewis

01:12:51.120 Oh great

01:12:52.000 Chaddy 304

01:12:53.200 Brilliant

01:12:53.640 On the front lines

01:12:54.920 In the trenches

01:12:56.380 Lovely

01:12:58.860 I wonder

01:12:59.780 I've got no special insight

01:13:01.380 I wonder what the

01:13:02.860 Leadership at Restore

01:13:04.340 Will do

01:13:04.960 Whether they'll

01:13:05.560 Want to do it or not

01:13:06.580 I, as I say, I kind of hope they do, but I'd understand if they don't, but all right, we'll

01:13:12.900 see, if they do, best of luck to you, Chaddy, genuinely best of luck, all right, we've got

01:13:19.540 some YouTube ones, YouTube ones, what have we got, a dozen or so, maybe a few more, let's

01:13:27.520 whip through them a bit, I'm on the podcast again today, so can't spend all morning on

01:13:33.360 them i'm on the podcast at 1pm which is summertime check it out okay like a bot says and coming in

01:13:47.460 at number one for the most based breakfast show is the real lbc lotus eaters breakfast club

01:13:54.420 hashtag the real lbc right here you're watching it

01:13:58.180 yeah and like a bot in at number one nice uh katora something called katora says good morning

01:14:11.580 bo harry and my fellow band of brand of brothers and sisters they've put ancestors in in brackets

01:14:17.960 I met yesterday at the first Restore Branch meeting

01:14:23.160 Best Among Us

01:14:25.040 Great, brilliant

01:14:25.880 Super

01:14:27.100 The ground game

01:14:28.240 The ground game for Restore Britain is real

01:14:31.820 All those naysayers and haters and defeatists

01:14:37.320 That said Restore Britain would never be anything other than a riotoid echo chamber on Twitter

01:14:42.460 You're profoundly mistaken

01:14:47.260 The ground game up and down the length and breadth of this country

01:14:52.260 Is something to behold

01:14:55.780 It's something remarkable

01:14:57.640 I've been involved in party politics on and off my whole adult life

01:15:01.120 I've never seen anything like it

01:15:03.560 Never seen anything like it

01:15:10.460 It's the difference between success at the ballot box and not

01:15:14.260 It is the difference

01:15:15.720 Tens of, over 100,000, 130,000 plus, is it?

01:15:20.200 Don't even know the last numbers of overall membership

01:15:22.560 A fair chunk of those people are prepared to actually turn up to things

01:15:27.780 And physically do stuff IRL

01:15:30.800 What more can you ask for?

01:15:33.740 Thank you, Kat Cora

01:15:36.860 Kat Cora, thank you for turning up to your branch meeting

01:15:40.780 And doing stuff and being there, making a difference

01:15:43.040 It's the difference

01:15:45.640 Can't buy it

01:15:48.360 People's time

01:15:49.820 It's the most valuable thing they've got

01:15:52.320 And they're prepared to give that

01:15:54.560 It makes my heart swell

01:16:00.740 If I was an Italian or a more emotional man

01:16:05.740 I might shed a tear right now

01:16:06.900 Enjoy

01:16:07.500 Enjoy

01:16:09.380 The ground game's real

01:16:13.240 It's real

01:16:14.040 We're going to take our country back

01:16:18.980 Great John

01:16:22.620 Great Johnny M

01:16:23.720 Great Johnny M says

01:16:26.800 Sell

01:16:29.000 Sell the entry start tune

01:16:31.480 As a ringtone

01:16:32.380 I'm not sure if we can

01:16:36.700 Harry

01:16:37.160 can we monetize that i don't know i'm joking i don't think so

01:16:41.360 are you saying stuff i can't hear oh no i don't think so no although one thing i will say heads

01:16:48.920 up to people we had some trouble with that i know people love that bit of music is a cool bit of

01:16:54.200 synthwave music isn't it but we've had trouble with it in the past a couple of times people

01:16:58.380 trying to copyright strike it and stuff unfairly so we got big harry who's a musician a genuinely

01:17:08.600 professional level musician genuinely to write another bit of pretty similar synth synth wave

01:17:17.080 music and we might we're probably gonna harry are we gonna switch to that is that a definite or no

01:17:24.660 yeah i'm hoping to do it in the next like week or so i just need to get it rendered

01:17:29.700 and i know a lot of you love that bit of music but we're gonna we're almost certainly gonna

01:17:34.980 change it out it's a very similar bit of music isn't it the harry what harry wrote and made oh

01:17:39.140 yeah yeah it's really really similar it's completely in the same vein um but then we

01:17:44.900 can't we won't have to suffer from like these repeated bad faith copyright attempts on it

01:17:51.060 which is just frustrating they are really really annoying some mornings we don't have it because

01:17:56.020 we're going through some cruddy copyright strike on it anyway that's enough about the music at the

01:18:01.220 beginning if you really like it try and record it for yourself or whatever now because we won't have

01:18:05.460 it forever heads up on that one okay people that go around copyright striking stuff on youtube 0.95

01:18:12.580 in bad faith what a scum move scumbag move all right brandon lucas says says uh is this the 0.91

01:18:23.540 the guy i played by gendry the guy off skins on that show how does it feel to have that weird kid 0.98

01:18:31.860 on skins play you i never watched skins i only watched a little bit of skin so i don't know 0.86

01:18:36.900 i watched i watched a bit of skins and thought it was retardedly bad 0.80

01:18:42.780 remember i was going out with a girl at the time and her and all her mates thought skins was 0.78

01:18:47.200 brilliant i remember watching it like what an episode or an episode and a half worth of it and 0.86

01:18:52.280 being like this is terribly written terribly acted like this is crap what this is terrible

01:18:59.620 why are you why do you like this what's good about this explain to me why so i never watch 0.60

01:19:05.180 skins i'm afraid so don't really know exactly what you're talking about there but thanks for

01:19:09.560 the super chat anyway brute life says hi lewis congrats to the team for the big win how far

01:19:18.180 along are a store to having a branch in every constituency thanks for all the hard work

01:19:22.880 thanks for the super chat i'm afraid i i couldn't i shouldn't have asked him that in real time i

01:19:27.500 wasn't i always read the super chats out at the end but um if and when he's back on i'll ask him

01:19:33.340 all those sorts of questions so thanks anyway shame i didn't i couldn't ask him that in real

01:19:38.200 time when he was on but again thank you brute life for the for the super chat okay we've still

01:19:44.460 got another half a dozen or more to get through kick you in the throat says that's their name 0.59

01:19:48.960 at kick you in the throat says um getting beard mogged over here oh yeah oh yeah it's a superior 0.76

01:19:55.280 beard i mean my beard's not insanely bad it's what a six out of ten beard is it i don't know 0.98

01:20:00.980 Is that being optimistic even

01:20:03.160 His is like a solid 9 out of 10

01:20:05.480 Solid 9 out of 10

01:20:08.680 What more could you ask for really

01:20:10.100 Yeah

01:20:12.280 Got totally beardmogged

01:20:14.780 Okay 0.97

01:20:17.700 The educated yobo

01:20:21.240 Says

01:20:22.620 I think Kier will stay until 2029

01:20:25.500 Got £10 on it

01:20:26.460 It might happen

01:20:27.920 It might happen at this stage

01:20:30.140 If you asked me on Tuesday

01:20:31.940 I would have said

01:20:32.520 No way

01:20:33.020 But at this stage

01:20:34.820 If they don't have

01:20:36.360 They don't hold a leadership contest

01:20:38.140 Until

01:20:38.680 July, August

01:20:41.220 So that Burnham can be in it

01:20:42.620 And then Keir Starmer wins that

01:20:44.500 Then yeah

01:20:46.080 Quite possibly

01:20:46.760 Then quite possibly

01:20:47.620 Like the way John Major

01:20:49.380 Beat Redwood

01:20:50.040 And just stayed on

01:20:50.740 Or the way Jeremy Corbyn

01:20:52.640 Jeremy Corbyn had a leadership contest

01:20:54.340 And won it

01:20:55.920 Didn't he

01:20:56.280 Whilst he was already leader

01:20:57.720 It's totally possible

01:21:00.040 Mr. Dickie Bingo

01:21:03.980 How are you this morning sir

01:21:05.080 Not Dinky Bingo

01:21:07.240 Mr. Dickie Bingo

01:21:08.200 Says

01:21:08.860 Obi-Wan Burnham

01:21:11.960 The only hope

01:21:12.960 Oh dear

01:21:13.840 Yeah

01:21:14.480 Why they think he's the guy

01:21:17.460 They're not

01:21:21.000 Their brain isn't

01:21:25.180 Andy Burnham 0.70

01:21:26.020 Andy Burnham

01:21:27.640 I was thinking

01:21:28.180 I was talking about this

01:21:28.880 just on telegram a couple of mates yesterday yesterday looking back at burnham in like the

01:21:34.560 labor years i remember in the labor years in sorry in the blair years he was like he's just he was a

01:21:43.480 nobody he wasn't taken particularly seriously he just wasn't he was it was just an also guy oh and

01:21:54.900 there's a few other people in blair's cabinet that you might have you might have heard their

01:21:59.520 name that's it you know that sort of level not one of the big beasts at all

01:22:05.680 like that guy that looks like he's wearing eyeliner that guy yeah that's it that's who he is

01:22:14.200 all he was but now he's supposed to be

01:22:17.700 this magic winning

01:22:21.220 behemoth of a political

01:22:24.300 titan

01:22:25.480 he can't lose

01:22:27.200 king of the north

01:22:28.600 get real

01:22:30.660 king of the north

01:22:32.220 yeah alright

01:22:33.020 ok 1.00

01:22:34.440 kick you in the throat again 1.00

01:22:37.100 says 1.00

01:22:37.680 anglosphere fun fact

01:22:40.500 semicolon

01:22:41.120 the tallest point in England

01:22:44.740 is Scarfell Pike

01:22:45.960 at 3,209 feet is it I thought there was another hill not much more than a hill is it I mean you

01:22:54.380 got many mountains in England there's Snowdon in Wales right and there's the Ben Ben Nevis in

01:22:59.460 Scotland but in England in England itself is it Scarfell Pike I thought there was a

01:23:04.780 another one anyway okay if you say it's Scarfell Pike fair enough 3,209 feet

01:23:10.100 people living in colorado scoffing derision at that three thousand that's barely more than a

01:23:19.300 hillock while a few hundred u.s towns and cities are sat above this elevation oh right yeah yeah

01:23:26.660 yeah yeah americans will laugh at such a thing

01:23:31.640 You haven't even got mountains

01:23:35.480 Where's your deserts and swamps bro

01:23:39.100 Where's your mountain ranges

01:23:40.680 Oh you haven't got any 0.99

01:23:41.660 And that's very unfortunate for you isn't it little Englanders 1.00

01:23:44.580 You haven't got any salt flats

01:23:49.260 You haven't got like any rolling giant prairies

01:23:53.380 Oh dear

01:23:54.960 How embarrassing for you

01:23:56.380 Yeah there's no mountains in England none

01:24:01.640 there's a few hills no deserts no tundras

01:24:10.040 no prairies all right

01:24:15.480 max robe says it says higher karate or brute is this one of those art simpson things

01:24:25.160 where i'm saying something embarrassing harry

01:24:27.880 i'm not sure that you just said high karate or brute i say it fast enough when i when it

01:24:38.560 appear that i'm saying something high karate and brute i don't know i don't get it got a

01:24:43.180 question mark on the end i don't get it i probably am just being silly okay sorry about that thanks

01:24:49.840 anyway wobbly arrow 84 funny name says restore slash reform can't win a mayor race in manchester

01:25:01.260 sadly i don't see why not uh i don't see why not i think the old paradigm that it's just a labor

01:25:09.480 lock don't buy it look at gaunton and denton a 13 000 majority in gaunton and denton

01:25:17.140 Labour came third

01:25:18.540 A long way off as well, a third

01:25:22.880 We're in a different world, we're in a different politics

01:25:26.560 Although the mayoral race is, yeah

01:25:31.320 I wouldn't say you're completely 100% mistaken and wrong

01:25:36.180 And I wouldn't say that

01:25:38.120 But I feel like what you're saying there

01:25:41.700 The sentiment of what you're saying there

01:25:42.800 Isn't as strong as it was

01:25:44.380 Definitely not as strong as it was, I'll say that

01:25:46.880 I'll say that

01:25:48.700 Will someone other than Labour

01:25:50.600 Win the mayoral ship

01:25:52.240 In Manchester

01:25:53.520 I don't know

01:25:55.720 I've seen what the bookies say

01:25:56.740 What the polls say

01:25:57.620 Labour probably still get it

01:25:59.120 Won't they

01:25:59.380 To be honest

01:25:59.840 I'll probably still get it

01:26:00.760 Whether it's an absolute gimme

01:26:03.320 I wouldn't say so

01:26:05.880 I wouldn't say so

01:26:07.480 A lot of people

01:26:09.500 Even in Manchester 1.00

01:26:10.540 The natives 1.00

01:26:11.500 The white working class

01:26:12.500 Feel unbelievably betrayed

01:26:16.320 By the fact that their country and city

01:26:19.240 Is flooded by 1.00

01:26:20.520 By foreign barbarians

01:26:22.820 And they're told that they're racists 0.93

01:26:25.260 And bigots for noticing it

01:26:26.700 I think that the depth

01:26:29.040 Of that

01:26:30.080 The feeling of the betrayal

01:26:31.780 Of that

01:26:32.840 Can't really be underestimated

01:26:37.100 I think, could be wrong

01:26:38.480 Could be wrong, you know

01:26:39.860 But we'll see

01:26:42.500 Okay, last two

01:26:44.540 Last two we've got here

01:26:47.220 King Philip 1861

01:26:50.040 Says

01:26:50.560 Was King George III thought of as a German

01:26:54.420 Being from the house of Hanover 1.00

01:26:56.220 I suspect that must have

01:26:58.180 Affected American animosity

01:27:00.000 Towards the crown

01:27:00.880 That's very very interesting

01:27:02.360 So George III was of course the grandson of

01:27:04.860 George I of Hanover

01:27:07.220 The elector of Hanover

01:27:08.380 So it's only like one

01:27:10.180 Two generations

01:27:11.900 Down

01:27:13.020 Jules III

01:27:15.260 Yeah I mean Jules I never learnt English properly

01:27:20.340 Or hardly at all

01:27:21.100 So yeah I mean he was thought of as German

01:27:26.100 In various ways

01:27:26.880 I still think of King Charles III in 2026 as a German

01:27:30.420 Half German

01:27:31.240 Saxe-Coburg and Gotha

01:27:32.980 The House of Hanover 0.95

01:27:37.700 What Americans 0.67

01:27:40.040 I guess you're talking about in the

01:27:43.020 the age of the war of independence what american colonists who became citizens of the united states

01:27:50.620 whether they thought of george iii as a german or not i don't know

01:27:55.180 there's not that much of that in the sources in the accounts it's not like some giant not that

01:28:01.180 i've seen not i'm aware of some giant long speech by someone like patrick henry or john adams

01:28:06.460 complaining about that the king is german they might mention it from time to time in fact they

01:28:09.660 did, but it's not like a massive thing, from what I've read. Thomas Jefferson constantly

01:28:15.940 mentioning that George III is German. No, not really. Interesting, that was an interesting

01:28:21.180 point. People did appreciate it and did think that, though. As I say, I still think of the

01:28:28.260 House of Windsor as German to this day, pretty much, kind of.

01:28:34.260 Only changed their name to Windsor during World War I, because Saxe-Coburg and Gotha

01:28:38.480 sounded too german or just is highly german okay and the last super chat from from wobbly arrow 0.97

01:28:49.040 again says too many wets libtards blair rights non-voters and students sad face

01:28:57.760 oh what like in manchester yeah you were the person that also said reform labor can't win 0.98

01:29:05.440 a mayoralship in manchester you say you just say there's too many wets libtards blair rights and 1.00

01:29:11.280 non-voters and students in manchester you may well be right you may well be right you could 1.00

01:29:14.960 possibly be right you know we shall see we shall see all right we've got one more um rumble rank

01:29:22.080 came in i might as well read it while we're here um and it's from reigning champion jetlag89

01:29:29.680 He says

01:29:30.900 He says

01:29:32.980 Happy Friday all boasters

01:29:34.820 Boasters

01:29:37.100 B-E-A-U

01:29:38.340 Boasters

01:29:39.340 I hope you all have a grand weekend

01:29:43.120 Are you Irish?

01:29:44.520 Irish people say grand, don't they?

01:29:46.740 Have a grand weekend

01:29:47.780 Bo, did your parents name you to manifest how you would appear in later life? 0.97

01:29:59.680 yeah you've also put in brackets they're no homo just for the record just for the record 0.81

01:30:06.380 i i put beard both you and lewis by the way get mogged

01:30:15.660 i guess that you meant out i out beard both you and lewis by the way get mogged well

01:30:21.160 fair enough i can believe it for me find it hard to believe you've got a better beard than lewis

01:30:29.060 That's difficult to believe

01:30:32.300 Thanks for the super chat though

01:30:36.140 Now my parents named me after Bo Brummel

01:30:39.520 And that was only a nickname

01:30:43.380 His real name was George

01:30:44.360 His real name was George Brummel

01:30:46.020 His name was only a nickname

01:30:48.160 He was called Bo

01:30:48.820 Don't give me that name

01:30:51.380 I like it, it's unique

01:30:54.860 Other than a little bit of bullying at primary school

01:30:57.260 Bo wears your arrow, that sort of thing

01:30:58.960 After that

01:30:59.900 Which was never actually really bad

01:31:01.140 Unique

01:31:03.540 It's better than being called

01:31:04.240 Like Chris or Dave

01:31:05.300 In my opinion

01:31:06.360 No criticism

01:31:07.940 Of all the Chris's

01:31:08.880 And Dave's out there

01:31:09.940 Which is not many people

01:31:12.780 Are called Bo

01:31:13.280 Although on Twitter

01:31:14.260 Before now

01:31:14.660 I've typed in

01:31:15.340 Bo on Twitter

01:31:17.700 Search

01:31:18.320 And see if there's

01:31:19.500 Anyone else called Bo Dade

01:31:20.880 You know

01:31:21.500 When you're bored

01:31:22.200 Or how many people

01:31:24.140 Are called Bo

01:31:24.700 There's quite a lot of people

01:31:25.860 Called Bo in the world

01:31:26.640 Nearly all Americans

01:31:27.900 it's quite a fair few of them a few of them have got massive accounts as well one guy that's in

01:31:33.560 some band i've never heard of but he's got hundreds and hundreds of thousands of followers

01:31:37.180 quite a lot of bows all right anyway that's enough about bow

01:31:39.520 that's the show it's now 34 minutes past nine in the am british summertime on friday the 15th of

01:31:48.040 may in the year of our lord 2026 you've been the glorious band the chosen few my band of brothers

01:31:52.480 thank you for watching this morning and all week without you it's not a thing i hope you enjoy the

01:31:57.580 rest of your day and indeed the coming weekend try make the best of the time if you can most

01:32:03.340 valuable thing you will ever have is your time end it wisely up a dm seize the day if you can

01:32:09.260 all right until monday morning then take care

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - May 15, 2026

Breakfast With Beau ｜ Friday 15th May 2026

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