Join me as I waffle over the latest in the world of politics, including the latest on Walter W. Burnham's decision to block his own candidate for the Labour leadership, the fallout from that decision and the impact on the upcoming by-election.
00:18:32.720labor in revolt over burnham stitch up yeah they've stitched him up
00:18:38.480on another level though although it's cowardly it is cowardly a bit isn't it politically from
00:18:42.640starma also on another level don't blame him it's sort of part of your job to sort of to try and if
00:18:50.320you think it's in the best interest of the party and the country to you know not have leadership
00:18:55.280bids against you just i would just have been honest about it i think if i was starma i think if i'd been
00:19:01.520quantum leaped into starma's body on friday or saturday i probably would have done much the same thing
00:19:08.000well i would have done the same thing but just when i talked to the press about it just would have been
00:19:12.800honest about it all just would have been upfront and honest about it it's like yeah yeah the guy wanted
00:19:17.120to try and coo me he wanted to try and rip the party in half i'm not going to allow that to happen
00:19:21.760sue me that's what i would have done that's what i would have said just just be honest about it but no
00:19:26.560you can't okay 700 000 graduates claim jobless benefits a bit bad isn't it i must admit degrees
00:19:35.680undergrad degrees are sort of worthless than they used to be i don't think that's just an old man
00:19:41.440curmudgeonly thing to say and i mean it in a much in a broader sense i mean if you go back to sort of
00:19:47.200the 1950s or the 1960s say an undergrad degree was sort of worth a lot more just in the minds of employers
00:19:55.680i mean even when i was even when i finished uni like 20 years ago over 20 years ago now um i got a degree
00:20:05.120that was in the humanities right ancient history doesn't necessarily mean you're going to be any
00:20:10.240good at any particular normal like office job right it's not computer science or anything
00:20:19.520i had no specific specialized skills that would help me in the workplace
00:20:26.320enable having read herodotus doesn't mean you're going to be good at spreadsheets does it
00:20:30.960however even back then even back then i'd go to interviews and they'd be like reasonably present
00:20:38.720oh you read you read that there did you you went to that union did that course did you interesting okay
00:20:45.280whereas now i imagine that a lot of you know 700 to the tune of 700 000 you go and get a job
00:20:50.400interview and you're like oh you did like tourism at colchester university
00:20:55.440that's worthless you did gender studies did you
00:21:06.880oh well there you go i think still a proper degree a good degree in a proper subject from a really good
00:21:11.200uni like you got you got a first in physics from like one of the better cambridge
00:21:18.160colleges at cambridge university that probably that is still of value isn't it okay i asked agents are the
00:21:24.960real victims says us border chief after second shooting all right let's get into this a bit
00:21:29.280then this is the other main story this is one of the only headlines you've got in the whole of the
00:21:33.920britain front pages but uh the ice shooting the ice shooting oh god okay
00:21:44.320all right so if anyone who doesn't know just tell you what it is before i give my opinion and all that
00:21:48.960uh in minneapolis again there the ice agents were trying to deport people and some some normal members
00:21:55.760of the public were getting involved and there was a kerfuffle on the street i'm describing it as a kerfuffle
00:22:04.160and a bloke got shot the ice agent shot him bunch of times dead okay now the details then the exact
00:22:15.280sort of moment to moment details what i found interesting about this is less the actual sort of
00:22:21.840event itself because there's footage of it anyone can just watch the footage loads of people have
00:22:27.680already slowed it down what i find more interesting really is the reaction because all of sunday or most
00:22:35.280of sunday i was sort of looking at twitter a fair bit and looking at the looking at the news on and off all
00:22:40.800day long um and the just the the different how it's played out in the in the public square if you
00:22:47.440like there's two different narratives aren't there so from the from the tim waltz side from the democrat
00:22:53.840side sort of the pro-immigration side the anti-trump side they're saying it's just a murder it's just
00:22:59.840simply you know a cold-hearted completely unnecessary murder and that trump's america is now a fascist state
00:23:07.680and that guy did nothing wrong the ice agents are evil and on and on and on that's their narrative
00:23:15.120the other side of the narrative coming out from christy gnome and you know more american patriots
00:23:20.880and stuff pro-trump people um they say that the guy had a gun and he did definitely have a gun
00:23:30.320he had a nine millimeter pistol they're saying he was like he was you know a danger a clear and
00:23:39.200present danger resisting arrest he was resisting arrest um and the ice agents fired in self-defense
00:23:45.920and that he's a domestic terrorist christy gnome called him a domestic terrorist i believe
00:23:51.120or she did yeah uh so okay right they're the two they're the two narratives let's start there and then
00:23:56.560so then we can drill down into exactly what happened and it got real murky real quick you know
00:24:02.640people saying oh he didn't have a gun it was a mobile phone and then later emerges that he did
00:24:08.800it was he did have a gun he did definitely have a gun then and then they're like saying oh but it was
00:24:14.400it was like in his waistband he never actually got it out he never like pulled it out and like
00:24:19.120pointed it at them i was going yes he did and then and then there's another image like the
00:24:24.560in sort of the instant he's getting shot and he seems to be holding something in his hand but it's
00:24:29.360neither a phone nor a gun and then other people say well that's an ai image though right it gets
00:24:37.040it gets murky real quick um thing i would say i suppose if i just give you my take on it
00:24:43.520my take on it is this i'll probably catch some flack for this from the audience but hey once again if i
00:24:51.680oh sorry another quick element says that one ice agent when the guy's on the ground pulled the gun
00:24:58.880either out of his pocket or out of his waistband disarmed him of his gun and as he was sort of
00:25:04.960backing away there's a suggestion that maybe that that gun went off sort of accidentally in an
00:25:09.600accidental discharge and that that spoke the other rice agents and that's what made him start shooting
00:25:14.640because it does look like when they shot him he didn't have anything in his hands or certainly not a
00:25:19.040gun anyway okay so anyway so my take is this again if i was one of those ice agents i wouldn't have
00:25:26.080started blasting however however i can't escape i can't escape the feeling that if he hadn't gone there
00:25:39.600and if he wasn't didn't have a gun at all and if he wasn't resisting arrest he would be alive right now
00:25:45.600surely that's true isn't it surely that's true the ice agents are doing their their thang and he
00:25:54.240inserted himself into that don't do that if you're gonna if you're really gonna do that probably don't
00:26:00.880take a gun even if it is just in your belt probably don't do that and then when there's like five ice
00:26:07.440agents wrestling you to the ground they feel the need to pepper spray you and sort of uppercut you in
00:26:11.600the face because you're resisting arrest don't turtle up and resist arrest at that point he got himself
00:26:17.760killed i think he got himself killed yeah if i was one of those ice agents i never saw that guy pointing
00:26:24.000a gun at me or anything so i probably wouldn't have shot him but there you go the other thing which is
00:26:29.120fair to say i think it's fair to say and that people say that defending they're on like the ice agent
00:26:34.640side of the ledger they say it's all very well to watch it in super slow motion 20 times on the internet
00:26:40.800in the moment the ice agents haven't got that luxury that's a fair thing to say that's you know
00:26:47.920their blood was up they don't want to get shot they want to go home that that day
00:26:51.520right donut operator always says that right they're gonna go home so if they're worried that they might
00:26:58.720even get shot they start blasting they can remotely you know one percent in their mind
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