The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - May 14, 2026


Breakfast With Beau | Thursday 14th May 2026


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00:00:00.000 Morning
00:00:08.080 You alright?
00:00:14.120 I hope you are
00:00:14.940 I hope you had a nice day yesterday
00:00:16.260 Nice evening
00:00:16.940 I hope you're bright eyed and bushy tailed
00:00:20.340 Rocking and raring for the day ahead
00:00:21.860 Come on wakey wakey
00:00:24.160 Have some eggs and bakey
00:00:25.120 Let's do this
00:00:27.760 Let's bow
00:00:29.040 i'm joined by my producer little harry as always how are you this morning good sir
00:00:34.680 morning i'm all good disembodied voice of the producer with god-like powers
00:00:40.000 okay you're the glorious band of the chosen few aren't you you know who you are
00:00:45.580 and you're here so you're the best people on earth you're watching this live you're in the
00:00:50.120 chat you're doing the poll we've got a bowl today haven't we harry every day yeah yeah cool it's
00:00:55.380 live yeah good all right thanks for joining me thanks for joining me without you guys it really
00:01:02.480 really isn't a thing um it is odd when people in the chat correctly guess what i'm wearing
00:01:08.020 how do they know
00:01:12.800 okay all right let's stop faffing about shall we why are you fannying about you've come here for
00:01:22.440 the news what's in the news cycle this morning what's the legacy corporate mainstream media
00:01:25.900 banging on about what was that cabal of evil frankly quite evil fleet street editors a cabal
00:01:32.140 of them they're in cahoots of course they are what are they trying to lie to you by omission
00:01:40.980 about this morning all right it's another almost wall-to-wall starma day not quite we've got a
00:01:49.000 bit of nige we've got a little bit of trump and winnie the pooh and the odd the odd thing here
00:01:54.840 or there but it's larger a little bit of the radiant princess of wales but it's mainly
00:02:01.240 keir starmer and west treating angela rayner andy burnham
00:02:06.680 all right let's just get into it then on today's set to be the day then where the leadership
00:02:14.920 contest is triggered that's what they're all saying it might even be shortly after the beau show ends
00:02:24.120 what's the beau show that's the stream you're watching
00:02:28.520 it's only colloquially known as the beau show formerly it's breakfast with beau
00:02:33.320 you can buy one of these mugs it says morning you all right on it
00:02:36.760 right so the headlines are where's prime minister question mark where's prime minister question
00:02:47.940 mark and my flair lady
00:02:50.400 kate middleton the princess of wales prince william's wife is in italy on some sort of tour
00:03:04.720 you know royal royal to her and uh she wore some trousers that are a bit flared
00:03:11.300 she looked radiant though of course all right let's start oh god the metro
00:03:18.300 exasperating whenever they start with the guardian or the metro
00:03:27.700 okay the metro one of the very very worst things in the world the metro
00:03:35.640 sort of profoundly disappointing to me the metro
00:03:43.340 that it exists right health secretary has his eyes on the priors look there he is standing in
00:03:52.000 in the commons yesterday so yesterday then just let you know what happened was as we
00:03:56.120 Told you yesterday morning
00:03:57.380 The King opened Parliament
00:03:59.800 And then there was
00:04:02.840 You know
00:04:04.200 They always talk
00:04:05.200 Have a little bit of a debate
00:04:06.600 A normal course of events
00:04:08.760 They then go to the Commons
00:04:10.200 And talk about it a bit
00:04:11.400 But of course
00:04:12.220 This one
00:04:12.840 Way more MPs than usual
00:04:15.380 Packed in there
00:04:16.020 Because it's
00:04:16.780 Everyone knows
00:04:17.540 That it's sort of
00:04:19.220 A crunch moment
00:04:20.860 Potentially
00:04:21.500 Or just is
00:04:22.280 A crunch moment
00:04:26.120 A classic exchange, just says it all really
00:04:30.240 Starmer stands up and he's got his little speech
00:04:32.760 He's talking about government, what the government wants to do next
00:04:35.100 Over the next year
00:04:36.240 His legislative agenda
00:04:38.780 And Kemi, one of the things she says
00:04:41.840 She just stands up and says
00:04:42.620 Yeah, that's all well and good
00:04:43.460 But you're not going to be here to do any of it, are you mate?
00:04:45.940 She didn't say mate
00:04:46.580 So everyone knows
00:04:50.840 West Street is standing in the sidelines
00:04:53.120 Most of it he was sitting on the front bench
00:04:54.660 Still sitting on the front bench
00:04:55.760 then later in the day or was it before the king's speech i think it was after the king's speech
00:05:02.180 i don't even remember now seems like yesterday seems like quite a long time ago to me i don't
00:05:06.980 know about you but um he did have that one-on-one meeting with the pm at number 10 and it only
00:05:15.760 lasted 15 minutes 16 minutes between going in the front door and coming back out the front door was
00:05:21.820 16 minutes so it was less than 16 minutes he was actually sitting there with keir starmer so
00:05:26.640 you know very quick exchange i've seen no sorts of real deal there's not time enough for any sort
00:05:34.900 of deal between them to be struck and hammered out or anything like that so i can only sort of
00:05:40.140 imagine that it was west street in saying i'm going to i'm going to do it i'm going to launch
00:05:47.660 Formally, launch a leadership did
00:05:49.740 Against you, and Keir Starmer saying
00:05:51.600 Okay
00:05:52.160 I doubt that was his response, just like that
00:05:55.520 Completely calm
00:05:58.140 Completely emotionless
00:05:59.500 Okay
00:05:59.740 Now
00:06:01.500 I imagine it's just
00:06:03.820 The writing's on the wall
00:06:05.680 Maybe not, maybe not
00:06:08.220 We'll talk about that in the show today
00:06:12.300 All the different possible permutations
00:06:14.300 Of what could happen
00:06:15.400 One of which is that
00:06:17.280 There is a full leadership contest, and Keir Starmer wins that.
00:06:21.680 He enters it himself.
00:06:22.620 He doesn't just slink off into the dustbin of history.
00:06:26.240 He enters that race and wins.
00:06:29.480 I mean, it's happened before.
00:06:30.900 When did it happen before?
00:06:32.400 John Major.
00:06:33.400 John Major in the 1990s.
00:06:35.640 It was John Redwood.
00:06:39.360 Anyone old enough to remember John Redwood?
00:06:43.240 Yeah, John Major had that.
00:06:45.000 Another guy in the Tory party, John Redwood.
00:06:47.280 mp uh launched a leadership bid against john major
00:06:53.760 john major pulled a starmer there and was like oh i don't accept it i've still got the numbers
00:06:58.960 in the party i think i mean it's bad it looks really bad doesn't it it undermines his authority
00:07:05.360 massively and everything people can say they didn't then but people can say you're a zombie
00:07:11.440 Prime Minister now, your party's some sort of zombie party, zombie government, but nonetheless
00:07:17.520 you cling on, you cling on to power by your fingernails, it could be that Starmer does
00:07:23.620 that. It's not that crazy of an idea. Apparently he does, or well he just does, seem to have
00:07:32.240 a big chunk of the Parliamentary Labour Party behind him still. That's not the whole story
00:07:39.180 though is it it's also about members and unions getting votes in and a say in all this okay we'll
00:07:46.800 get on to that stuff as we go through the show all right health secretary has his eyes on the prize
00:07:53.880 wes prime minister streeting to launch a challenge for keir starmer's job today
00:08:00.120 after number 10 showdown that was that 16 minute thing says allies
00:08:04.780 than streeting allies are you ready for loads and loads of puns to do with the word street
00:08:12.600 or streeting not just today just going forward now
00:08:16.560 fleet street's going to rinse their ability to come up with puns including the word street in it
00:08:25.380 aren't they
00:08:25.820 I think we've got one or two today
00:08:30.160 Already
00:08:31.060 Drama on Day King revealed new legislation
00:08:35.020 But Kemi tells PM
00:08:36.300 You won't be here to deliver it
00:08:38.080 Summer of course
00:08:40.660 You can see that little picture
00:08:41.500 I'm still just pretending it's all good
00:08:43.700 It's fine
00:08:44.720 See the decision he's made
00:08:48.720 Put on our brave front
00:08:55.820 Tears of a clown, okay, the sun, oh look, you ready, are you ready for Catherine Middleton, the princess of Wales, his flares, you ready for this, it's big news, it's big, it's important stuff, here we go, there's the radiant Kate Middleton in Italy, boom.
00:09:18.640 The tabloids love talking about what, what women wear, don't they, that's just one of their things.
00:09:25.820 My flair lady
00:09:28.440 Alright
00:09:31.880 Tea in the moustache
00:09:35.620 The old soup strainer
00:09:37.980 Alright, Labour in civil war
00:09:40.100 It is basically civil war
00:09:41.620 Everyone's saying that
00:09:44.160 West Street is going to trigger this thing today
00:09:45.780 They're all saying that
00:09:47.140 It seems like that's certainly going to happen
00:09:49.400 That's not just like rumour and scuttlebutt
00:09:51.980 It may or may not
00:09:53.380 It seems like that is definitely going to happen
00:09:55.180 So over the next month or more
00:09:57.600 It just will be full blown civil war
00:10:00.500 In the Labour Party
00:10:02.760 Alright
00:10:05.500 Civil war, it's war, happy now
00:10:07.900 Where's to quit and launch a leader bid
00:10:10.380 Defiant PM
00:10:11.880 He must not win
00:10:13.600 That was one of the things that apparently is coming out of
00:10:15.980 Of number 10
00:10:17.640 And the Starmer camp
00:10:19.200 That he's decided
00:10:20.820 On some level, on sort of a strategic level
00:10:24.700 That at all costs
00:10:26.680 Streeting can't win
00:10:28.820 Can't beat him
00:10:29.520 Okay
00:10:32.080 Ed, Andy and Ange
00:10:34.480 To join battle
00:10:35.460 So yeah, once it's
00:10:37.560 Once it's triggered
00:10:38.900 Then the floodgates are open
00:10:41.240 Right
00:10:42.260 Then the other big beasts
00:10:44.700 Can launch
00:10:46.700 Their bid as well
00:10:48.420 Ed Miliband
00:10:49.380 People are saying
00:10:50.900 People are on the inside of the Westminster bubble
00:10:52.640 Truly on the inside
00:10:53.440 say Ed Miliband will do it
00:10:56.500 Angela Rayner will do it
00:10:58.360 and Andy Burnham will do it
00:11:00.920 each one of them needs
00:11:02.820 I believe each one of them needs
00:11:04.600 81 MPs to back them
00:11:06.540 so
00:11:06.800 only
00:11:10.400 only two or three could
00:11:12.960 we'll talk a little bit
00:11:15.080 also later in a minute we'll talk a little bit
00:11:16.960 about the technical details
00:11:19.040 of the race
00:11:20.040 how all that works because over the few days over the last few days you've seen you've noticed
00:11:27.840 that there's like this magic number of 81 to to launch a leadership campaign well
00:11:31.560 that was only part of that catherine west's what they call it a stalking horse it wasn't that was
00:11:36.820 it what was the phrase they would use about her she was just um that was just like a mechanism
00:11:43.700 to to launch it but you would actually need 81 mps a block of mps all for that one person whether
00:11:52.340 it's west streeting or or ed milliband um the question then about andy and ang though
00:11:59.200 well andy's not an mp we'll talk about that in a minute as well don't worry
00:12:04.420 An Ange
00:12:06.080 Angela the Fridge Rayner, Big Bird
00:12:08.280 Well, she is
00:12:11.100 You know, still embroiled in a HMRC controversy
00:12:17.460 And can't stand
00:12:18.200 Oh no, wait, breaking news
00:12:19.840 This morning, Angela Rayner said she's been cleared by HMRC
00:12:23.740 After stamp duty, Rao
00:12:24.940 That's remarkable timing, isn't it?
00:12:28.680 That's really quite remarkable
00:12:29.800 Look, it's all over
00:12:30.660 All the newspapers went to print last night
00:12:33.160 So they didn't have this
00:12:33.680 It's literally breaking this morning it seems
00:12:35.260 Angela Rayner says she has been cleared by HMRC over tax affairs
00:12:39.100 A remarkable timing isn't it
00:12:42.820 Sort of literally on the day
00:12:44.440 The morning of the day
00:12:45.640 When she would need to be cleared
00:12:47.600 She is
00:12:48.220 Sky News
00:12:50.280 Rayner settles an unpaid tax bill
00:12:52.920 Paving way for leadership challenge
00:12:54.480 Convenient isn't it
00:12:58.080 Alright
00:13:03.480 so she's got this like big flat well actually i don't know how big it is i assume it's big
00:13:07.580 on the south coast down in brighton and hove somewhere 800 grand flat she's supposed to have
00:13:13.800 paid something in the order of 40 grand stamp duty on it and didn't she claims that was sort
00:13:20.940 of a genuine mistake she'd asked you know lawyers and things make sure all my affairs are in order
00:13:27.440 and according to her they said everything is then later it transpired she hadn't paid the
00:13:33.680 stamp duty on it and apparently hmrc have decided now or yesterday or last night or
00:13:42.320 very early this morning i know decided that that was a good faith error
00:13:47.600 she hasn't certainly hasn't broken the law and actually did nothing intentionally wrong
00:13:52.240 oh okay okay the timing fair enough then well if that's the if that is indeed the case then fair
00:14:02.280 enough i mean she should have known better like how do you not know about stamp duty
00:14:09.840 but okay if you're a grown-up and you own properties and stuff but okay
00:14:16.160 But the timing of it is absolutely
00:14:20.380 Remarkable
00:14:23.360 Alright
00:14:26.200 So that's what's going on with Big Ange
00:14:28.280 She's a unit isn't she
00:14:32.260 Alright
00:14:33.460 And
00:14:34.060 She said she's been saying
00:14:38.040 That even though she seemed to have backed Burnham
00:14:40.640 Only like a week ago
00:14:41.940 Sort of openly definitely backed him
00:14:43.820 And is the guy
00:14:45.400 she's now saying no not necessarily i've got no pact with him formal pact with him
00:14:50.360 i've got no formal pact with web streeting or anything in other words and now i'm cleared by
00:14:56.840 hmrc in other words she can completely launch her own leadership bid entirely in her own right
00:15:04.260 should she get 81 mps to sort of back that street fighter oh there you go they started
00:15:11.020 with the street the street word play the puns with the word street or streeting in it okay street
00:15:19.180 fighter looks like uh right it looks like ken ken's let himself go ken's had a few too many fray
00:15:29.500 Ben Toss.
00:15:33.780 A Cairn out of Street Fighter.
00:15:35.080 Yeah, no, okay.
00:15:38.380 Tough crowd.
00:15:40.560 Okay.
00:15:41.380 The times, the venerable times.
00:15:43.340 Joan Collins still got it at 92.
00:15:46.080 I doubt it.
00:15:49.300 Streeting prepares to quit ahead of number 10 challenge.
00:15:53.120 So that's what they're all saying.
00:15:54.780 Starmer warns of plunge into chaos.
00:15:57.380 That's his line, isn't it?
00:15:58.340 That's his thing.
00:15:58.820 Don't do this
00:15:59.920 Because it will just mean chaos
00:16:01.660 For the party in the country
00:16:03.000 Again we've said in the last few days
00:16:05.860 Don't need to labour the point anymore
00:16:07.280 You're the chaos
00:16:09.160 Sir Queer
00:16:10.440 What's going on with that trial
00:16:13.460 With those Ukrainian
00:16:14.880 Boys
00:16:17.420 And the fires they set
00:16:20.420 I heard they pleaded innocent
00:16:22.180 I thought Bolesky mainstream media
00:16:26.240 Is saying nothing about it
00:16:26.900 I don't know if there's a full
00:16:27.640 de-notice de-order whatever they call it where they're legally not allowed to
00:16:34.200 think john wong of vox populi been going down i have to get in touch with him
00:16:38.200 i will i will get in touch with him john all right mate um let me know have you been
00:16:45.080 you've been in court let us know i'll get in touch with you today try to find out what's going on
00:16:50.440 there find out if we're legally even allowed to talk about it
00:16:58.600 of course the legacy mainstream media just utterly utterly blanking it
00:17:04.280 okay health secretary seeks backing of 81 labor mps all right so actually this is a moment we could
00:17:12.360 delve a little bit into the details there was a story was it in the mail or the express
00:17:18.200 oh god i should have had it lined up properly where they talk about uh like some of the details
00:17:24.440 Of it
00:17:24.940 Okay I won't spend
00:17:26.540 More than a few seconds
00:17:27.500 Trying to find out
00:17:27.960 I'll just tell you about it
00:17:29.280 What it is
00:17:31.860 Is that the
00:17:35.800 Parliamentary Labour Party
00:17:36.840 As well as members
00:17:38.020 As well as unions
00:17:40.320 Will have a vote
00:17:41.280 On this thing
00:17:42.480 And they will narrow it down
00:17:43.920 If one person
00:17:45.360 Gets 50%
00:17:46.680 Of
00:17:47.280 All those votes
00:17:48.560 Those people's first votes
00:17:50.440 As you get a first
00:17:51.820 Second and third vote
00:17:52.660 I believe
00:17:52.940 If one person gets 50%, just 50% of all those votes, that's it, it's over, they win, that person has won
00:17:58.760 If no one person gets 50%, then the person who comes last out of all of those is done
00:18:12.040 They're out of the race
00:18:12.980 And all the people whose first vote went to them, their second vote gets counted for the rest
00:18:20.760 and so on until it's whittled down to just two okay i don't know if that's needlessly complicated
00:18:29.460 or what but that's how they do it and then the members get a vote in when it's whittled down to
00:18:37.540 the last two the members get a vote and then so that's sort of a fairly whole different dynamic
00:18:42.380 then at that point isn't it because whoever's most popular with the the membership the normal
00:18:47.340 hundreds and hundreds of thousands oh sorry tens and tens of thousands of labor party members
00:18:53.060 they mostly like andy burnham will andy burnham even be in that last two will he be even in the
00:19:01.700 race at all talk about that in a moment um so there you go
00:19:11.360 so ang can enter wes streeting can enter if they get 81 now there's only i say only it's a massive
00:19:21.660 majority but there's only 400 odd mps right starmer gets to automatically enter as a sitting leader
00:19:27.660 he automatically is in the race okay so with the best win in the world you could only have
00:19:34.380 four other people at absolute maximum so let's say let's count streeting as one
00:19:41.360 Yeah
00:19:41.780 Let's count
00:19:43.740 The Fridge
00:19:45.220 As one
00:19:46.060 People saying
00:19:48.380 Miliband
00:19:50.040 He's probably the next biggest name
00:19:51.940 That everyone is saying
00:19:52.660 And I think he has
00:19:53.940 I'm pretty sure
00:19:54.560 He's formally said as well
00:19:56.080 This morning
00:19:56.640 Or yesterday
00:19:57.720 Reported this morning
00:19:59.080 That
00:19:59.760 If a leadership election
00:20:01.680 Should be triggered
00:20:03.220 That he
00:20:05.280 Ed Miliband
00:20:05.840 Would throw his hat into the ring
00:20:06.960 So that's it
00:20:08.040 So that only leaves one more spot
00:20:09.000 And what is that
00:20:09.580 Andy Burnham's spot
00:20:11.360 as i said there's no room really for any others you know a few other names have been bandied
00:20:17.520 around haven't they um shabana mahoud is one but and that's assuming and all of that is assuming
00:20:24.600 that the rest of the labor mps uh will line up into like four distinct camps like that they
00:20:32.200 probably won't will they almost i wouldn't have thought they would and what's really going on
00:20:37.800 here really isn't it is it a battle for the heart and soul of the Labour Party what the Labour Party
00:20:42.080 is what it wants to be how left it's going to be right so streeting is considered crazily
00:20:50.500 considered on the right of the party Starmer is considered on the right of the party
00:20:55.040 Ed Miliband not so much he's considered a bit more left isn't he not the hard left not as much
00:21:02.560 left as they some would like you know like jeremy corbyn and john mcdonald types they truly were
00:21:08.960 the left of the party um angela rayner to the left of starma but not crazily crazy enough
00:21:17.200 andy burnham considered to the left but not the full-blown swivel-eyed psycho left but
00:21:24.960 right so as i was saying yesterday if the stars are seeming to beginning to align for wesley
00:21:30.400 streeting everyone on the left of the party all the the the main most vocal ones that are trying
00:21:37.760 to get rid of starma in the first place triggering triggering all this stuff they're like oh wait no
00:21:41.520 that's not what we wanted this isn't we didn't want less treating if anything we'll try and cue
00:21:47.760 him out of power faster than faster than his trust um so they're sort of some of the headlines saying
00:21:53.520 they're scrambling to get a candidate whether it would be Ed Miliband or now Rayner now the
00:22:02.080 fridge is free to stand they would much rather Ed or Ange over Wes wouldn't they it's full-blown
00:22:12.100 civil war if you're a Labour MP at the moment there's lots to do and talk about and deals to
00:22:19.920 struck and you know all of them are ambitious you wouldn't really be an mp would you some sometimes
00:22:26.800 mps are non-ambitious for power sometimes that is the case nearly always not though nearly always
00:22:34.720 you're in it because you want a top job you want power a little bit more money power
00:22:40.880 A Secretary of State
00:22:45.740 Chauffeur driven car
00:22:47.620 So they're all wrangling
00:22:53.240 Who can I back
00:22:54.200 Who can I get one of the big beasts
00:22:56.720 To promise me a job in government
00:22:58.020 Should they win
00:22:58.680 It's a horrible game really
00:23:03.840 I think it's funny
00:23:06.840 It's all fun and games really
00:23:07.980 But there'll be all sorts of deals
00:23:10.780 and counter deals and machinations behind the scenes all of them like a little hive of ants
00:23:19.980 trying to get the best for themselves okay the guardian
00:23:28.300 makes me sick the guardian okay something about olivia colman don't care about olivia colman
00:23:34.300 streeting on maneuvers ready to launch a leadership challenge today that's one thing
00:23:38.540 they like saying at the moment, on manoeuvres, and all the different allegories, metaphors,
00:23:45.080 similes about war. A lot of them are to do with World War I, for example, at the moment
00:23:49.680 for some reason. I've heard the Schlieffen plan mentioned once or twice. I've heard
00:23:56.060 the trenches. One of the papers, one of the headlines I saw earlier was that yesterday
00:23:59.760 the King's speech was like that winter of 1914 when the English and Germans had a foot
00:24:08.520 it wasn't a full football match but they kicked a ball about in no man's land on christmas eve
00:24:12.920 was it christmas day i.e just like a lull in the fighting that was what yesterday was
00:24:21.960 and now the war's back on yeah weirdly sort of manoeuvres and lots of world war one imagery
00:24:29.000 about all of this
00:24:35.000 all right
00:24:38.120 health secretary in race to win over enough mps to trigger contest right so
00:24:41.800 what you might have seen over the last few days you know that number
00:24:45.960 over the weekend sticking up this 53 said they'll do it 67 do it it's now 85
00:24:49.640 they'll do it well they won't all have been on hope i
00:24:53.080 would have thought few of those would have been
00:24:55.640 west streeting partisans so west streeting needs to build a block of his own of his own 81.
00:25:06.280 but he will have done it he can't launch a bid without that
00:25:09.720 so we can only assume that he has in fact got those numbers
00:25:15.720 all right so so it's on that's the key thing if west streeting has got 81
00:25:20.200 of purely wedge treating partisans ready to rock and roll all right it's on it's on
00:25:28.360 move sparks scramble on left of party to find candidates who oppose him yeah right so who they
00:25:33.560 who they're going with they've they've sort of put the put this thing in motion but wes isn't their
00:25:39.480 guy well at this point it would it would be ang or milliband won't it ed or ang
00:25:46.840 Angela Rayner is a moron full-blown at a glance listen to her for more than five seconds you
00:25:55.940 realize she's a moron and then Miliband's already had a chance hasn't he's already a failed leader
00:26:01.320 and not failed in the way that he's still a titan of politics it's not like Donald Trump
00:26:09.540 loses an election comes back wins even harder it's not like not like William Gladstone
00:26:16.540 winning losing winning again four times his prime minister in and out of office
00:26:21.340 every time his gravitas wasn't destroyed not that is admit ed milliband's not that
00:26:29.580 he had his shot he went to the the public and the public rejected him
00:26:35.980 are they going to go with ed and of course he's obviously like a really weird freak
00:26:40.060 if anything he's a weirder guy than starmer isn't he i think so that's
00:26:43.660 That's what a crazy thing to say.
00:26:46.100 How is that even possible?
00:26:46.860 But he's truly freakish, I believe.
00:26:53.460 He's like that with Zach Polanski, real name David Pauldon.
00:26:56.420 For being just like a weirdo, a weirdo.
00:27:01.240 The other thing about West Streeting is,
00:27:03.780 I don't know how the Labour MPs backing him aren't taking this into account.
00:27:09.760 I guess they are taking it into account, but not enough.
00:27:12.500 That he will lose his seat
00:27:14.460 At the next general election
00:27:15.380 If I was a Labour MP
00:27:20.940 And even if I liked West Streeting
00:27:22.580 Even if I knew he would give me a senior position
00:27:24.840 In government should he become Prime Minister
00:27:26.380 I would still be like
00:27:28.720 Wait, no wait, wait, wait
00:27:29.940 Zoom out a moment, take a breath
00:27:31.760 Zoom out for a moment
00:27:32.500 You're going to lose your seat at the next election
00:27:34.500 We can't have a leader, a Prime Minister
00:27:37.200 Can we?
00:27:39.260 Who's going to lose his seat at the next election
00:27:40.820 Surely that sort of
00:27:42.900 one of the prerequisites of being a prime minister that you're in at least a relatively safe seat
00:27:49.220 at least at the very least that not one where your majority is like
00:27:54.340 600 odd is it five or six hundred odd and in a constituency where
00:28:01.060 the the support for labor is dwindles away moment by moment because it's packed full with more and
00:28:05.620 and more foreigners. Ilford in East London. I know Ilford well. It's near-ish where I
00:28:13.120 grew up. Been to Ilford loads of times. Travelled through Ilford thousands and thousands of
00:28:19.640 times in my life. Travelling from Essex to London to go to university and to go to work
00:28:24.900 for 20 odd years. I know Ilford. I know Ilford. It's a foreign enclave.
00:28:32.740 Whether it's Bangladeshis, Pakistanis or Indians
00:28:37.640 It's one of those places
00:28:40.900 Where the Labour vote is just about clinging on
00:28:45.640 Just clinging on
00:28:47.760 And it will have evaporated by this point
00:28:50.200 And with the unpopularity of Labour in general
00:28:52.820 There's no way, I don't think
00:28:54.940 I don't think there's any way he wins at the next election, you see
00:29:00.680 so so maybe don't make him the leader of your party
00:29:05.720 then that's Labour politicians for you or all politicians all MPs I guess all they're really
00:29:14.880 thinking is if he gets in I might get a decent job for two years that's it that's as far as
00:29:21.540 their thinking goes then is it right but in your career for two years ahead of the party and the
00:29:32.240 country gross isn't it it's kind of gross i would like parliament to be filled with every man jack
00:29:43.920 of them they're putting the the present and the future even the long-term future of the country
00:29:51.320 ahead of everything ahead of personal ambition far ahead of personal gain and ambition far far
00:29:58.680 ahead of it it's the number one thing on their list and the next thing down is a is a million
00:30:03.920 miles away from that but that's just not what they're like is it hardly any of them are like
00:30:09.900 that all right something slightly different this morning one of the other stories we've got
00:30:16.160 Nige. Nige is on the front pages a fair bit this morning. We did this story, didn't we? We covered
00:30:23.040 it. I guess it was last week when it first popped up on the front pages. Now it's a fair bit on the
00:30:27.940 front pages again. Farage faces watchdog inquiry into five million pound gift. So quickly to recap
00:30:36.620 you on that. Relatively shortly before he became an MP, much less than 12 months before he became
00:30:45.360 an mp because remember he only entered the race in clacton what was it a month or two a few weeks
00:30:52.160 before the actual general election quite close to the general election uh because he just saw that
00:30:57.520 the numbers there were good for reform so the candidate they'd already selected him just turf
00:31:02.160 him out when he's here just destroy one more career doesn't matter um he just saw that he could
00:31:08.800 a few uh not too long before that
00:31:15.360 a thailand-based but british guy i was his name christopher harbourn is it mr harbourn yeah
00:31:23.240 he just gave nigel five million pound now this guy is i don't know philanthropist is quite the
00:31:32.940 right word but he dishes out money all over the place like he's given millions and millions of
00:31:37.820 pounds to uh the brexit party and a reform like something to the chain of 20 odd million
00:31:44.080 At various points
00:31:45.440 I think he did give millions
00:31:48.540 A few million pounds to the Tory party as well
00:31:50.500 Some say
00:31:52.620 I think Ben Habib says
00:31:54.060 He might have given Boris Johnson
00:31:55.620 Personally a million quid
00:31:58.120 I'm not sure about that but anyway
00:31:59.640 This guy throws out millions of pounds
00:32:02.920 Here and there like it's candy
00:32:03.920 Well not quite but
00:32:05.500 If he's a billionaire
00:32:06.920 The odd five million quid is not
00:32:09.880 A giant amount is it
00:32:12.320 But anyway
00:32:12.720 He just gave
00:32:15.900 Nigel 5 million quid
00:32:17.840 Alright
00:32:18.280 There's nothing illegal about that
00:32:20.220 Nigel says he spent it all on his
00:32:24.040 Personal security
00:32:26.400 Again nothing wrong with that
00:32:27.500 In fact good
00:32:27.980 Despite all the amount of
00:32:30.700 Shade I throw at Nigel
00:32:32.780 I don't wish him
00:32:34.660 Any physical harm
00:32:36.900 Far from it
00:32:37.560 That'd be terrible
00:32:38.720 Of course
00:32:40.060 So all well and good so far
00:32:42.360 my story so far billionaire gives nigel 5 million quid be nice with it just a friend of yours just
00:32:50.240 gives you five million quid spends it on security well and good okay problem is when nigel became an
00:32:57.800 mp he was supposed to declare that now this is a bit what the wrangling is about the inquiry will
00:33:07.340 be about is that nigel and reform say he didn't have to declare that other people saying no you
00:33:12.740 did though you did have to so that's what the controversy is nigel just says that it was a
00:33:19.600 personal gift it was before i was an mp i've done nothing wrong other people saying no everything
00:33:28.820 that is relevant five million pound is relevant anything that was relevant up to something like
00:33:34.200 12 months before you became an MP
00:33:37.040 You have to
00:33:38.180 The rules say you have to declare that
00:33:40.040 And he didn't
00:33:42.440 So the wrangling is
00:33:43.860 Over that
00:33:45.040 Not whether he did receive 5 million pounds or not
00:33:48.280 That's not in question
00:33:49.420 I'm just not denying that
00:33:51.900 It's just
00:33:52.280 Okay so
00:33:53.320 And then the other question really
00:33:57.260 Perhaps the most salient question about it all
00:33:59.260 Really
00:33:59.760 is did crystal harbourn expect anything in return for that
00:34:07.260 was it truly just a gift between friends and there was there was nothing unsaid off the record
00:34:17.000 about what mr harbourn might have expected in return was it just pure altruism for nigel's
00:34:23.340 safety that he gave him that money or did he want or expect something else in return
00:34:28.940 i mean one thing some people are saying a little bit scurrilous but hey it's the bow show um i'm
00:34:35.480 not scared about saying something a little bit scurrilous um that that harbour has got uh some
00:34:41.400 sort of cryptocurrency or some sort of um some sort of coin of his own or some sort of crypto
00:34:47.020 coin that he promotes something like that i don't know and that nige does promote that a fair bit
00:34:53.020 Again, not necessarily anything illegal in that
00:34:59.560 In and of itself
00:35:02.300 But it just does beg the question
00:35:06.000 Why didn't Nigel, though, declare it?
00:35:10.840 Because if he just declared it
00:35:12.160 Then his enemies, Nigel's enemies
00:35:13.860 Have got nothing to say
00:35:15.360 So why didn't you just declare it?
00:35:19.520 I don't know
00:35:20.440 Because that's what a lot of them do
00:35:22.580 like david lammy right he takes loads of money off all sorts of people all the time but he just
00:35:27.620 declares it or was it uh george brown someone called george brown just gave him 50 grand one
00:35:32.740 time but but let me declared it so it's on record and when people do a freedom of information or
00:35:38.340 whatever they can see it's there then you might actually ask david lammy who's this george brown
00:35:43.860 fella like what was that 50 quid for did he expect anything in return for that at that point david
00:35:48.180 lammy can just shut you down and go well no it's a private thing i don't need to tell you anything
00:35:51.300 about it i don't want to tell you anything about that person or what he might have wanted in return
00:35:54.420 for it i've declared it by the letter of the law that's all i need to do end of story nigel could
00:36:00.340 have done that exact thing with this five million pound if he wanted but he didn't he didn't declare
00:36:05.300 it so all right all right it may just be the tiniest storm in the tiniest of teacups that
00:36:11.780 comes to absolutely nothing it might end with nigel being recalled his seat being recalled
00:36:18.100 and him not being an mp anymore who knows who knows depends what the watchdog inquiry
00:36:26.100 uh decides about it i mean nigel seemed a bit tetchy i see a clip where beth rigby
00:36:33.060 was asking him about it and he got all leggy really quickly really quickly
00:36:37.220 nigel did i didn't really want to he sort of ended the interview basically so just having
00:36:42.820 a general pop at sky news rather than just answering the questions okay
00:36:50.420 margill does get quite eggy quite quickly doesn't he these days
00:36:53.380 it seems something comes up he doesn't like he's just
00:37:01.940 let's be like that and be like really really weak isn't it i think like ed milliband
00:37:06.100 all right the telegraph the daily torograph there's the radiant catherine
00:37:12.900 middleton kate middleton princess of wales looking radiant miller banned to fight
00:37:20.320 streeter for number 10 health secretary expected to resign today and spark grace
00:37:24.040 for top job as starmer refuses to go quietly fair enough starmer to force eu laws on britain
00:37:30.300 with new henry the eighth powers we've talked about that before haven't we on breakfast we
00:37:33.100 Because in the King's Speech yesterday
00:37:35.220 Pretty quickly, just a quick few moments
00:37:37.000 In the King's Speech, he said loads of things
00:37:39.020 He talked about ID cards again
00:37:40.520 He talked about the safety
00:37:43.180 Of our communities
00:37:44.600 The scourge of anti-Semitism
00:37:46.680 He specifically talked about
00:37:49.300 Anti-Semitism, but when it came to Southport
00:37:51.360 He just talked about violence
00:37:53.380 Just general violence
00:37:54.820 He talked about getting closer and closer
00:37:59.500 To the EU
00:38:00.280 Of course these are the government's words
00:38:03.160 Not King Charles' words
00:38:04.440 They write a speech for him
00:38:05.700 And he simply reads it out
00:38:07.040 It's not actually the king's views
00:38:11.300 In any way
00:38:12.240 It really isn't
00:38:13.240 So
00:38:14.960 Alright
00:38:15.700 And the Henry VIII powers
00:38:18.460 So called Henry VIII powers
00:38:20.000 To get through parliament legislation
00:38:23.980 Bringing us closer to Europe
00:38:25.380 Because they would have to do that
00:38:27.720 Because so many of the MPs
00:38:30.280 including some Labour ones would vote against it if they could
00:38:33.400 all right the eye paper I quickly read the blurb and that'll be the last we'll uh we'll talk about
00:38:41.440 it today because it'll be ongoing but this as always the blurb on the front page of the eye
00:38:47.640 paper sort of says everything you need to know street in set to resign and will challenge PM
00:38:51.920 Andy Burnham is uh will also attempt to join the contest after his team identified an MP ready to
00:38:57.740 Stand aside to the iPaper learns.
00:38:59.420 Dun-dun-dun.
00:39:00.080 Who's that?
00:39:01.860 Nobody knows except it's Afzal Khan.
00:39:05.000 It's probably Labour MP in the Greater Manchester area, isn't it?
00:39:10.360 Afzal Khan.
00:39:13.720 He's like a Burnham partisan.
00:39:17.880 A Burnham man.
00:39:19.740 He'll be prepared to pretend there's something wrong with his health
00:39:22.720 or that he just wants to spend more time with his family or something.
00:39:25.840 Trigger a by-election
00:39:27.860 A bit more on the Burnham thing
00:39:29.180 There's not enough time is there
00:39:32.100 Even if that Afzal Khan
00:39:34.680 Stands down today
00:39:36.140 There probably isn't enough time
00:39:39.200 For that by-election to take place
00:39:41.240 Andy Burnham to win it
00:39:43.460 Although there's no guarantee of that
00:39:44.460 And then enter this leadership contest
00:39:48.160 There's not enough time for all of that
00:39:50.020 Unless
00:39:50.900 The NEC
00:39:52.580 The ruling body of the Labour Party
00:39:55.460 put back the actual leadership contest it's been triggered but the final votes we won't
00:40:01.760 do the final votes for like three months four months from now giving burnham enough time to
00:40:07.320 do all of that that could happen that that could that could happen but remember the nec is controlled
00:40:15.260 like there's not that many people in it is there like eight people 12 people in it
00:40:19.340 Including the Prime Minister and everything
00:40:22.780 And they blocked Burnham before, didn't they
00:40:25.780 For the Goulton and Denton thing
00:40:26.860 They came to the conclusion
00:40:28.480 I think there's only one or two people that
00:40:30.740 Didn't do that
00:40:32.660 They nearly all, almost unanimously said
00:40:35.140 Burnham shouldn't stand in Goulton and Denton
00:40:36.800 Some say that the feeling within the NEC
00:40:41.440 Has completely changed now
00:40:42.620 Maybe that's true
00:40:44.060 Other people say no it's not, it's the same
00:40:45.300 It'll be the same thing
00:40:45.900 If the NEC allow him to even stand
00:40:50.620 And if the NEC allow the final leadership contest
00:40:56.500 To take place in three months from now, four months from now
00:40:58.880 Maybe they will, it seems unlikely to me
00:41:02.820 But maybe they will, I don't actually know
00:41:04.180 What's in the minds of those few people
00:41:07.060 You know, Starmer's one of them
00:41:09.620 And one or two Starmer arch loyalists are in there as well
00:41:13.040 They will, you can only imagine, try and block anything like that
00:41:15.680 through the ends of the earth we should see there's so many different ways this thing could
00:41:19.380 break over the coming days and weeks so many different ways so many different things that
00:41:23.280 might play out but okay apparently burnham is going to get one of the guys in in uh well that
00:41:31.120 step down wouldn't it be so funny i would love it love it if they go for that
00:41:41.600 i still can't slip down by election the nec do select burnham and then he loses the by-election
00:41:50.320 that would be so funny for this apart from anything it's not just that he screws labor
00:41:56.660 and it screws andy burnham i don't like andy burnham andy burnham's a douchebag he's an arch
00:42:00.600 blairite he's exactly the sort of person that has ruined this country since 1997 exactly it is him
00:42:08.120 It's people like him
00:42:09.080 A handful of people like him
00:42:10.440 He's a scumbag
00:42:11.640 Socialist
00:42:13.120 Scum
00:42:14.380 It would be so funny
00:42:17.980 Because it would annoy the left
00:42:19.820 At least the soft left
00:42:20.840 Of the Labour Party
00:42:22.280 All their plans ruined
00:42:24.880 It's Burnham or nothing
00:42:26.160 Burnham is the great hope
00:42:28.800 He's going to come and lead us
00:42:30.820 To victory in 2029
00:42:33.100 And he can't even win a seat in Manchester
00:42:36.000 that would be so funny i would love that okay let's carry on waste treating will resign
00:42:43.480 apparently it's just they just will and trigger a leadership challenge to kia starmer as early as
00:42:48.640 today and i say mp intends to fight health secretary in contest it seems like kia starmer
00:42:54.300 is set to do that to do a john major could win it he could he really could burnham tells labor
00:43:03.340 mps he is quote ready to go are you with route back to westminster although faces obstacles yeah
00:43:11.520 quite a few obstacles andy and why are you wearing eyeliner bro i don't think he is i think he's got
00:43:19.540 unnaturally thick eyelashes sort of looks like he's wearing eyeliner doesn't it
00:43:25.200 andy has found a seat it might not be winnable yeah is there a safe labor seat is there any
00:43:32.660 such thing i mean there are a few kind of but
00:43:40.580 it may not be winnable yeah this labor government is highly unpopular isn't it highly highly highly
00:43:47.860 highly unpopular is it is this labor government less popular than the tory government towards the
00:43:55.540 end, during those Rishi years. Possibly, quite possibly. I mean, Starmer's less popular than
00:44:03.680 Rishi Sunak, isn't he? Most unpopular Prime Minister of all time. Quick contest may see
00:44:09.820 Ed Miliband as candidate. If the left of the party can't get Andy, you're like, they're
00:44:17.920 probably going to go for Ed Miliband. Or if the fridge, the absolute unit that is Big
00:44:24.780 bird angela rayner if she can get if she can corral enough mps it'll be ed or ang won't it
00:44:34.700 there's not enough time for burnham he needed to have won that need to have been selected and won
00:44:39.720 that goulton and denton thing then things lined up for him but he didn't so who knows though
00:44:46.580 the labor party might just contrive it to make all that happen maybe feels like a long shot i
00:44:53.840 I wouldn't put money on Andy Burnham at this point.
00:44:56.180 I feel like you're just throwing money away if you bet on him.
00:44:58.480 There's too many obstacles.
00:45:00.260 Okay.
00:45:00.840 Street in the MPM held a 16-minute meeting at number 10
00:45:04.160 to discuss the health secretary's concerns.
00:45:06.540 His concerns.
00:45:08.360 I always think that's funny.
00:45:11.040 Concerns.
00:45:12.960 HR, your boss brings you in and he's firing you.
00:45:15.940 He starts by saying, we have concerns.
00:45:18.940 Some concerns have been raised
00:45:24.220 Yeah, okay
00:45:25.500 Labour centrists fear streeting would lose to a left winger
00:45:32.400 And lead to manifesto being dropped
00:45:34.900 Oh no
00:45:37.840 Labour manifestos might not get carried out
00:45:41.960 Oh no
00:45:42.480 King tells MPs that UK threatened by a quote
00:45:46.360 Dangerous and volatile world
00:45:48.020 at state opening of parliament yeah all right all right mate the financial times let's whip
00:45:55.440 through it then get a few more stories under our belt before we uh start running out the show
00:45:58.640 starmer okay the financial times same same stuff look a bit of nige there a nige and it's five
00:46:03.460 million quid all right the express it's a good paper the same old thing uh they're calling him
00:46:08.440 a zombie kia's a zombie he's already dead he's the living dead finally a move to bring down
00:46:14.720 zombie kia okay and the radiant princess of wales there we go all right the male pure pure slop
00:46:21.040 street into ignite labor day of anarchy it's a day of anarchy all right you get it the star
00:46:26.840 larry the cat larry the downing street cat here we go again he says the cat says
00:46:32.840 downing streeting that's
00:46:36.680 That's unacceptably poor to me
00:46:41.100 If you do a really good bit of wordplay
00:46:44.800 Okay, I'll give you some credit
00:46:46.460 But that is super poor
00:46:48.060 Downing streeting
00:46:49.300 What?
00:46:50.720 What?
00:46:51.940 Who came up with that?
00:46:55.620 The Daily Star bullpen of writers
00:46:58.660 Throwing around ideas
00:47:00.520 Somebody says downing streeting
00:47:07.240 and the power players the editors with the final say decided yeah that's good yeah print that
00:47:17.720 the mirror appears oh the mirror puts nice front and center
00:47:20.520 big old hypno toad there hypno toad not looking happy
00:47:28.440 oh there's a blow if you suffered a blow in your never-ending campaign to contain the real rat
00:47:35.800 to contain actual nativists that actually want to save their country
00:47:39.400 that actually want to try and reduce the number of assaults and sex crimes
00:47:42.760 committed against our women or your campaign to contain all of that
00:47:46.760 has suffered a little bit of a blow is it hypno toad
00:47:51.400 barraging five million pound sleaze probe okay all right there are the front pages there you go
00:47:55.960 there are the front pages
00:47:59.480 all right let's do our poll what did we do on our poll today harry you have to bring it up on
00:48:03.240 on my screen if you don't mind for me sir engage oh i quite liked it yesterday it's just as a
00:48:10.460 palette cleanser something not to do with politics just like two minutes three minutes talking about
00:48:16.420 that it's a little bit of a little bit of a break i quite like that so some people in the chat
00:48:23.020 saying what slop kind of poll is this and other people saying oh i love this poll so can't please
00:48:28.680 everyone i quite like that it was just something else just something completely different
00:48:33.040 So today, although that was really out of left field, wasn't it?
00:48:36.620 Talking about the Turtles.
00:48:38.220 This time at least it's something a bit topical.
00:48:41.040 It's a little bit in the news.
00:48:41.760 We asked you guys,
00:48:43.220 are you excited about the new Christopher Nolan adaptation of The Odyssey?
00:48:47.680 And it's a massive win for the no vote.
00:48:53.200 88% of you.
00:48:55.120 Over 1,200 votes.
00:48:57.120 Knocking up to 1,300 votes.
00:48:59.660 88% of you say no.
00:49:02.040 Yeah, I would be clicking no.
00:49:05.880 4% of you say yes, and 8% of you say a little bit.
00:49:10.500 So even if I count that, what, 12% of you say somewhere between yes and maybe.
00:49:17.660 88%.
00:49:18.180 Stonking wind.
00:49:19.680 If it was a national referendum on something, you'd claim a mandate for all time, wouldn't you?
00:49:24.540 Because, of course, I love the Odyssey.
00:49:28.020 Homer's epic poem, the Odyssey.
00:49:30.640 The Iliad and the Odyssey should be, in my opinion
00:49:33.680 Call me old-fashioned
00:49:35.480 Should be the cornerstone of your education
00:49:41.120 It used to be, that sort of thing, it used to be
00:49:44.200 I'm talking like 17th, 18th, 19th century
00:49:47.460 If you had a first-class education
00:49:49.400 I remember first reading the Iliad and the Odyssey at A-level
00:49:53.900 When I was like 17, 18
00:49:55.820 Gone back and re-read both
00:49:58.380 Listened to them on audiobook as well
00:49:59.920 I mean, the Lotus Eaters is a reference to the Odyssey, isn't it?
00:50:05.120 Odysseus and his men land on the Isle of the Lotus Eaters at one point.
00:50:10.420 Okay, I love the Odyssey. It's great.
00:50:14.120 In meaning to do some long-form content with Stelios about it at some point.
00:50:20.220 We will. We will do that.
00:50:24.580 So to see some of the things coming about this Christopher Nolan film...
00:50:29.920 Mr Nolan has made loads of good films, hasn't he?
00:50:32.640 This looks poor on a number of levels
00:50:38.920 Might even get into it here, could probably talk about it for an hour, probably quite easily
00:50:44.320 Apart from anything else, didn't they race-swap Helen of Troy?
00:50:47.320 Oh, don't worry about it bro, Helen of Troy is a fictional character anyway, who cares if they cast a black woman?
00:50:52.320 She's literally described as like
00:50:57.720 White armed
00:51:00.100 Or something isn't she
00:51:01.080 Depends what the translation is of course
00:51:03.380 There's some rumour
00:51:07.980 I'm not sure if it's 100% confirmed or true
00:51:09.500 But there's some rumour that they cast that
00:51:11.620 Elliot Page as Achilles
00:51:14.160 That would be weird
00:51:17.640 If that's true
00:51:18.420 Elliot Page
00:51:20.540 What was the woman's original name
00:51:22.460 Her dead name
00:51:23.340 Harry
00:51:24.320 What was she called
00:51:25.660 Give me a second
00:51:27.720 Maybe the chat
00:51:29.300 Have I got the chat here
00:51:30.220 Can I see the chat
00:51:31.120 Yeah
00:51:32.480 What was Elliot's page original name
00:51:36.460 Can't even remember now
00:51:38.100 That woman to male
00:51:41.100 Transgender
00:51:42.140 Woman thing
00:51:44.220 Ellen
00:51:47.280 Oh was it just Ellen page
00:51:48.760 Yeah they're all saying Ellen
00:51:50.200 okay so ellen page as achilles if you don't know achilles is supposed to be the the most
00:51:59.740 badass warrior in the world perhaps in the cosmos gods are afraid to fight him
00:52:06.320 giants are afraid to fight him he's supposed to be the just an unparalleled warrior when it comes
00:52:14.960 swordplay throwing your spear whatever it's supposed to be the most badass man in the on the planet
00:52:23.280 you're gonna cast elliot page ellen page
00:52:30.240 really
00:52:35.120 really
00:52:35.520 Elliot Page looks like
00:52:40.900 If you can be kind enough to say
00:52:45.380 She looks like a man in any way
00:52:47.640 A male in any way
00:52:48.840 Very very diminutive
00:52:50.960 You can't change the shape of your skull
00:52:53.960 And chin and neck can you
00:52:55.800 She doesn't look male in any way
00:52:58.500 But it's the kindest possible thing
00:53:00.820 She looks like a prepubescent boy
00:53:02.420 Doesn't she
00:53:05.520 Not Achilles.
00:53:08.080 I mean, Brad Pitt was Achilles in that film Troy.
00:53:11.920 For me, they should have cast someone much better.
00:53:14.440 They should have cast, like, Big Dave Bautista or something.
00:53:17.840 Should have cast a true, someone who's, like, a hulking mess.
00:53:22.120 Like a physically intimidating person.
00:53:24.800 Like John Cena or something, I don't know.
00:53:26.300 Brock Lesnar, something like that.
00:53:27.480 They're not good actors, but you get the point.
00:53:29.600 Not Ellen Page.
00:53:32.480 Ellen Page is Achilles.
00:53:35.520 yeah all right no wonder 80 it should stick down 87% of you say no
00:53:40.320 not looking forward to it yeah I won't go to the cinema to see it
00:53:43.820 eventually once it's on TV and I'm clicking around one evening and it's on
00:53:47.560 I'll be like okay go on then I'll watch it okay
00:53:50.160 or I might watch a really long review by like Critical Drinker or something
00:53:54.660 or Nerdrotic one of those guys maybe Mr. H
00:53:58.820 don't make me watch it Nate
00:54:01.600 don't make me watch it
00:54:04.580 Eventually when it's on TV
00:54:07.300 I'll give it a whirl
00:54:08.020 Alright
00:54:08.460 That's as far as I'm prepared to go
00:54:09.720 But I completely agree with you there
00:54:11.280 Me and the Glorious Band
00:54:12.680 The Chosen Few
00:54:13.220 On the same page on that one
00:54:14.560 Just for another one
00:54:16.600 You've been deliberately subversive
00:54:17.900 Why are you doing that?
00:54:19.840 Why are you trying to
00:54:20.500 Like ruin a piece
00:54:21.380 Of our western heritage?
00:54:24.100 Why are you doing that?
00:54:27.400 Who's told you to do that?
00:54:31.480 And for what purpose ultimately?
00:54:34.160 Alright
00:54:34.480 It's already 5-2
00:54:37.540 The only other big main story today
00:54:40.900 Is that Donald is in China
00:54:43.660 Meeting Winnie the Pooh, isn't he?
00:54:46.780 It was all very cordial between them
00:54:48.480 When he first got there
00:54:50.960 One thing that was quite interesting
00:54:54.200 I thought is
00:54:54.920 I'll just mention this
00:54:56.600 Before we go on to this day in history
00:54:58.160 Xi greets Trump with ominous warning
00:55:00.880 About risk of war between US and China
00:55:03.240 He's supposed to have said
00:55:05.420 Winnie the Pooh is supposed to have said
00:55:06.540 Beware the Thucydides trap
00:55:09.180 Interesting
00:55:11.360 Anyone who doesn't know
00:55:13.820 Thucydides was an ancient Greek
00:55:16.560 Classical Greek historian
00:55:17.980 Who wrote about the Peloponnesian War
00:55:19.960 That is the 30 odd year
00:55:22.300 30 year long odd war
00:55:25.200 Between Athens and Sparta
00:55:27.200 In
00:55:28.620 What the 5th century BC
00:55:31.120 The world's too
00:55:32.420 The Grecian world's two superpowers
00:55:36.720 Athens and Sparta
00:55:37.660 For no particularly good reason
00:55:41.520 Other than sort of suspicion for each other
00:55:44.000 And both thinking that somewhere down the line
00:55:46.780 The other one's going to preemptively attack me
00:55:48.320 So I better attack him first
00:55:49.360 That sort of thing
00:55:50.220 And ultimately ruined both
00:55:53.660 I mean Sparta in the end wins the Peloponnesian War
00:55:56.300 But it fatally wounds Sparta
00:55:58.960 In various ways
00:56:00.920 The idea, Thucydides and the Peloponnesian War
00:56:04.940 The idea that you've got two superpowers
00:56:07.080 That needn't go to war with each other
00:56:08.860 Did
00:56:10.120 A bit surprised that Winnie the Pooh
00:56:14.440 Decided to reference Thucydides there
00:56:17.160 I doubt
00:56:18.460 I doubt Trump has read Thucydides
00:56:20.980 He might have done
00:56:22.600 He might have done
00:56:23.880 I doubt he knows anything about the Peloponnesian War
00:56:27.320 Trump
00:56:28.320 He might do
00:56:29.880 Might do, maybe I'm being just unkind there
00:56:32.500 Maybe I'm being a
00:56:33.380 Maybe I'm being a snob
00:56:35.740 Alright
00:56:37.300 Should we have a look on this day in history
00:56:39.880 It's very nearly 9am, should we have a look at
00:56:41.880 On this day in history, what happened
00:56:43.360 Down through the centuries, what happened of note
00:56:45.740 On the 14th of May
00:56:46.580 Alright, the Constitution of the United States
00:56:49.560 On this day in 1789, delegates gather in Philadelphia
00:56:52.180 To draw up the Constitution of the United States
00:56:54.620 I'm Anglo-American, aren't I?
00:56:57.420 My dad
00:56:58.160 is an american he didn't come over here until the 1970s born and raised in oregon go ducks
00:57:03.840 didn't come over here until the 70s i was born in 1981 got loads of cousins
00:57:10.640 a few uncles loads of cousins in the united states one of my ancestors francis langhorn dade
00:57:18.880 is the major francis langhorn dade who got all his men killed by indians in florida
00:57:27.600 and now dade county the dade county in florida is named after one of my ancestors
00:57:33.920 so i'm anglo-american okay all right i happen to think that the constitution of the united
00:57:41.520 states is a truly remarkable document truly remarkable thing a lot of english people
00:57:46.480 wouldn't say that i think it is largely penned by what was um jefferson franklin a bit of john
00:57:53.920 Adams was in Madison was involved
00:57:55.640 I think it's a remarkable
00:57:57.780 thing
00:57:58.180 I really do
00:58:00.480 that a republic like the
00:58:03.780 United States has been as
00:58:05.460 incredibly successful
00:58:07.900 as it has been since the late
00:58:09.680 18th century
00:58:10.360 remarkably successful for a republic
00:58:13.960 like a history
00:58:17.720 record breaking
00:58:19.480 example of how a republic
00:58:21.780 can work
00:58:22.660 A lot of it's to do with the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, of course
00:58:27.780 There you go, I've got long-form content all about Washington
00:58:33.420 All about Jefferson
00:58:34.580 I will get round to doing one on John Adams
00:58:38.080 And Madison, probably, at some point
00:58:42.060 Okay, the Constitution
00:58:44.280 Good stuff
00:58:45.880 On this day in 1796, English country doctor Edward Jenner
00:58:50.320 McMinster's his revolutionary cowpox-based vaccine
00:58:54.400 For smallpox in Berkeley, Gloucestershire
00:58:56.460 Yeah, great stuff
00:58:58.260 Great stuff again, I said before, didn't I?
00:59:00.820 The pox, various types of pox
00:59:02.960 Have been a blight on humanity since day one
00:59:06.000 God knows how many millions of people
00:59:10.400 Have died in misery and pain
00:59:12.900 How many families ruined by the pox
00:59:15.740 Thank God we don't live in a world
00:59:19.860 Where that's a thing now
00:59:20.940 Like your kid at some point
00:59:23.940 Will get the pox
00:59:24.680 And there's a decent chance
00:59:25.560 It kills them
00:59:26.160 Just hope it doesn't
00:59:27.860 Hope it doesn't
00:59:28.720 Scar their face
00:59:29.720 For the rest of their life
00:59:30.640 Hideously
00:59:31.560 You go through life
00:59:33.600 You're basically
00:59:34.000 Completely fine
00:59:34.780 Healthy
00:59:35.220 You get the pox
00:59:36.480 And you die
00:59:37.180 We don't live in that world
00:59:39.520 Is an incredible thing
00:59:40.580 Thank you Dr. Jenner
00:59:42.520 Thank you
00:59:43.880 On this day in 1804
00:59:46.440 Lois and Clark
00:59:48.200 Meriwether Lewis
00:59:48.980 lewis and uh william clark's expedition sets out from st louis for the pacific coast commissioned
00:59:58.900 by thomas jefferson in the lewis and clark expedition out west thinking about heading
01:00:04.900 out california way yes the great i always find it interesting to remember how recently in history
01:00:14.660 The United States properly, formally, legally
01:00:17.620 Extended all the way to the West Coast
01:00:20.080 To the Pacific Ocean
01:00:21.120 You might think, oh, some people
01:00:23.760 I do think, often I feel
01:00:25.240 That the United States from
01:00:27.040 From 1776
01:00:29.360 Is, stretches out to the West Coast
01:00:32.220 No, no, no
01:00:34.480 Not even close
01:00:35.640 Look, 1804, during the presidency of Thomas Jefferson
01:00:38.500 They're still sending
01:00:40.340 One of the first expeditions
01:00:42.160 Out to the West Coast
01:00:43.220 Lewis and Clark wasn't the first one by a long stretch
01:00:46.800 But still
01:00:48.320 I mean Spaniards were going there centuries ago
01:00:51.060 Drake sails up the west coast of America
01:00:53.760 In the 16th century
01:00:55.680 But nonetheless
01:00:57.760 Still you've had the Louisiana Purchase
01:01:00.700 And still the west is more or less
01:01:02.380 Not exactly uncharted
01:01:04.000 But it's not formally claimed by the United States
01:01:07.180 Or anything like that
01:01:08.180 Fascinating, interesting to me
01:01:11.660 okay on this day in 1853 land surveyor newspaper publisher and inventor
01:01:16.540 gail borden patents his process for condensed milk i know nothing i don't know i don't know
01:01:21.820 any real details about that i'm afraid one of the few times where this uh on this day in history.com
01:01:27.660 was out history broad me fair enough that's quite obscure though isn't it who really cares about the
01:01:33.420 history of condensed milk really i'm interested in things like very obscure really rotation in
01:01:41.020 the 13th century but condensed milk even I am not interested in that all right on this day 1948
01:01:48.120 David Ben-Gurion declares Israeli independence from British administration and Golda Meir one
01:01:53.560 of the later Prime Ministers is one of the signatures good stuff good for you good good
01:01:58.320 good all right on this day in 1955 Warsaw Pact is signed by the Soviet Union Albania Bulgaria
01:02:04.000 Czechoslovakia East Germany Hungary Poland and Romania that's interesting today isn't it in
01:02:08.700 1955, the Warsaw Pact. Again, you might think you could probably be forgiven for thinking
01:02:15.260 that the Warsaw Pact was something that came into existence very soon after the war. That's
01:02:21.840 post-Stalin, isn't it, 1955? Stalin dies in, what, 52, 53? He's certainly dead by 55,
01:02:27.400 isn't he? You would have thought that the Warsaw Pact might have begun in the autumn
01:02:34.280 of 1945 or some point you know maybe like we talked about the Munich airlift the other day
01:02:40.960 didn't we sometime during Stalin's reign no it's as late as 1955 interesting to note all right and
01:02:49.220 on this day in 2024 Google unveils new generative AI feature at its annual conference forcing users
01:02:56.840 to view AI overviews at the top of search results despite then being factually incorrect 60% of the
01:03:03.380 time never rely on an ai search don't rely on it just do some reading of your own a bit
01:03:12.980 you can just use google in the normal fashion click around from a few websites have a look
01:03:17.840 at who's written the thing don't just rely don't just go at grok is this true don't do that chat
01:03:26.360 gbt what is this right or wrong it's wrong loads i i don't use it i really don't i really really
01:03:36.460 don't use it it's wrong loads of one example one class just one classic example classic example
01:03:42.320 not too long ago on twitter someone put up an image of alan rickman from robin hood prince of
01:03:50.420 thieves and someone else goes at grok who's that they should probably know how do you not know
01:03:55.520 alan rickman how do you not know prince of thieves um and grok just gave the wrong answer just said
01:04:00.340 someone else people like no try again and it tried like five six seven times and in the end it said
01:04:08.040 oh you tell me then i don't know it's like it's a really famous film really really famous actor
01:04:14.200 how do you not how does your your your programming your algorithm whatever it is your your mod your
01:04:21.000 language model and you've got access to more or less everything how can you not figure that out
01:04:25.500 It's Alan Rickman from Prince of Thieves, bro
01:04:29.080 I've seen it just factually get things wrong loads, loads
01:04:33.500 And then when you really press it, it was like
01:04:36.760 Oh yeah, no, sorry, I got that wrong
01:04:38.800 Or I made it up
01:04:39.680 I thought that's what you wanted to hear
01:04:41.880 I thought that was right, but I was wrong, sorry
01:04:43.540 Like, don't
01:04:44.600 It's only a large language model and it's completely fallible
01:04:48.780 Completely and utterly fallible
01:04:51.060 It's really annoying on Twitter when people ask Grok something
01:04:55.100 it proves their point it's wrong but then they start gloating that that's the end of the story
01:05:00.500 that's it's a slam dunk that's the end of the discussion oh my god oh my god yeah i did a tweet
01:05:07.880 just last night i've said a number of times i would john connor the hell out of all ai i'll
01:05:13.360 destroy it i'd have a world without it it's going to be a detriment to our civilization and humanity
01:05:20.140 My opinion
01:05:21.400 I would John Connor it to hell
01:05:26.860 Having said that
01:05:30.740 It's certainly going to have a few
01:05:33.380 Good things about it
01:05:35.760 If it helps medical research
01:05:38.780 For example
01:05:39.300 Then good
01:05:43.740 In some very limited senses
01:05:46.620 Use it to map the stars
01:05:48.540 More efficiently or something like that
01:05:50.140 Use it to translate all cuneiform or something
01:05:53.140 Maybe, okay
01:05:53.920 Maybe I want John Connor it 100%
01:05:57.060 Off the face of the earth
01:05:58.260 There's people using it all the time
01:06:02.360 To get their knowledge, to get their facts from
01:06:04.760 Ridiculous, terrible
01:06:06.840 Alright, shall we have a look at our
01:06:10.300 Rumble Rants and Super Chats
01:06:11.420 Shall we do that
01:06:12.140 Last few minutes of the show
01:06:14.340 Alright, Rumble Rants
01:06:17.120 Global Church History Unit number one there
01:06:19.920 What's he done?
01:06:21.360 Just gone half past six in the morning
01:06:22.700 He wants his belt back
01:06:25.520 He wants the title
01:06:27.460 And new
01:06:30.440 Yesterday someone called Jetlag
01:06:32.060 Nicked the belt off of him
01:06:33.600 Nicked the title
01:06:34.360 Hipped him to the post
01:06:35.860 He's got it back
01:06:38.320 Global Church History
01:06:39.640 And new
01:06:41.200 The two time
01:06:42.960 Global Church History says
01:06:45.640 Today in 8.41 AD
01:06:49.360 it would be the vikings under askier begin their seine raids the river seine it's interesting
01:06:58.700 yep yep very interesting because of course the normans were scandinavian they were vikings
01:07:05.100 essentially weren't they a little bit after that you've got king rollo it's also a 70s 60s or 70s
01:07:11.920 cartoon called king rollo isn't there really quaint really nice of mr ben oh cartoon king rollo
01:07:19.140 Love it
01:07:20.260 The real King Rollo
01:07:21.440 Was a badass Viking marauder
01:07:24.160 He'd rape and pillage
01:07:26.040 And all sorts of stuff
01:07:26.740 The real King Rollo
01:07:27.600 Anyway
01:07:28.460 He's the descendant of the Normans
01:07:30.360 Like King Rollo's
01:07:31.580 A descendant of
01:07:33.040 Or rather
01:07:33.900 William the Conqueror
01:07:35.020 Is a descendant of Rollo
01:07:36.060 But the Vikings
01:07:37.540 Yeah
01:07:37.960 Pillaging all the
01:07:40.320 All the coast of where
01:07:41.640 Modern day Holland and Belgium is
01:07:42.960 Of course
01:07:44.780 Yeah makes sense doesn't it
01:07:45.800 And then down the river Seine
01:07:47.360 To Paris
01:07:47.960 they sacked paris at one point didn't they i believe as early as 841 they were doing that
01:07:55.440 so it's before there's a france really right that's in sort of the mirror
01:08:00.660 carolingian merovingian age uh uh that'll be after charlemagne though won't it
01:08:08.120 it's after charlemagne still that part of the land was um they were frankish not truly
01:08:16.480 Truly French
01:08:17.800 It's a bit complicated
01:08:18.540 In the
01:08:18.940 When you use
01:08:19.980 Stop saying Frankish
01:08:21.660 And start saying France
01:08:22.440 But
01:08:22.680 They're like Frankish kings
01:08:24.140 Really aren't they
01:08:24.820 That bit of the land
01:08:26.500 That becomes Normandy
01:08:27.560 Was called
01:08:28.840 Neustria
01:08:30.000 This is all off the top of my head
01:08:31.200 It was like Neustria
01:08:32.500 Frankish king
01:08:33.280 You don't have Neustria
01:08:33.860 Vikings take it over
01:08:35.660 Turn it into Normandy
01:08:36.480 Start speaking French
01:08:38.060 Start becoming Christian
01:08:39.000 Start giving themselves
01:08:40.140 Names like William
01:08:41.000 And Richard
01:08:42.480 Rather than
01:08:44.000 Askear
01:08:46.480 Interesting, fascinating stuff though, fascinating stuff
01:08:48.440 Then you also say, on this day in 1608
01:08:51.760 The Protestant Union was founded
01:08:54.240 Uh, Allhausen
01:08:55.760 Yeah, it was a moment in time, wasn't it?
01:08:57.800 We're in the middle of the wars of religion in Europe at that point
01:08:59.880 Well, not in the middle, near the beginning-ish
01:09:01.720 There's wars for the heart and soul of Germany
01:09:07.420 Well, all of Europe, but Germany really
01:09:08.920 The Protestant Union, it didn't last all that long, did it?
01:09:11.940 That Protestant Union
01:09:12.940 It was one of the Holy Roman Emperors
01:09:15.600 Gone back to Catholicism
01:09:18.440 Well never left formally
01:09:19.800 But it's complicated
01:09:20.900 God that's a really complicated part of history
01:09:22.300 That is global church history
01:09:23.800 That's a labyrinth of history stuff there
01:09:27.400 To even begin to unpick all of that
01:09:29.200 So one of the Holy Roman emperors
01:09:31.420 Dialed Catholicism up a bit more
01:09:34.360 And as a response to that
01:09:36.120 You've got the Protestant Union
01:09:38.420 Both Lutheran and Calvinist
01:09:43.340 to begin to talk about that bit of history you can only scratch the surface
01:09:52.240 otherwise i'd need to sit here and talk for two hours
01:09:54.880 all right interesting though of course and the the second and only other rumble rant this morning is
01:10:02.720 from kaleb knight who says the odyssey musical by some guy on internet is already a better
01:10:10.200 adaptation the nolans oh i didn't know there was a a musical even just an internet one of the
01:10:18.360 odyssey that's all right i'd watch it there's been loads of adaptations of the odyssey over the years
01:10:23.400 none of them are brilliant in my opinion um but maybe i'll google that have a look at that
01:10:29.280 yeah this thing with matt damon doesn't look good i know it's like a history nerds thing to say but
01:10:37.200 like like a fedora wearing actually point but like it looks like from the small amounts i've
01:10:44.860 seen in the trailers bits and bobs the the costumes are all wrong just for start just that
01:10:52.080 they're all wrong some tiny little clips i've seen um the dialogue sounds dumb
01:10:59.340 all right they're the only two rumble rants we've got this morning what about the youtube
01:11:08.740 super chats harry engage there are okay great what have we got oh god there's a fair few
01:11:16.920 more than a dozen let's whip through them a bit we've got ac1d helm says on this day world war
01:11:26.400 To RAF bomb Jerry
01:11:28.340 For the first time
01:11:29.140 Oh is that right
01:11:29.640 That's interesting
01:11:30.200 For the very first time
01:11:31.460 It would be
01:11:35.380 It would be 1940 right
01:11:37.820 Because 1939 is
01:11:39.560 The war hasn't started yet
01:11:40.740 So okay
01:11:41.440 That's interesting
01:11:42.520 That is interesting
01:11:43.280 To say isn't it
01:11:43.720 That that far into the war
01:11:45.080 Mid May 1940
01:11:49.680 The war starts in September
01:11:52.460 39
01:11:53.460 And months and months
01:11:55.700 of months go by, before Churchill and Bomber Harris decide to actually bomb the Germans
01:12:05.660 for the first time, alright, that's interesting, something wickedly, superfan Shona says,
01:12:13.940 Kate wears what she's told will be a burka next, I don't know, maybe, or not a burka,
01:12:22.480 I doubt it. I don't know if she does wear what she's told. Maybe she does. I would have thought
01:12:26.560 she'd certainly have stylists. There's no question about that. I thought that pantsuit
01:12:35.160 looked all right. Nothing wrong with a little bit of flares on a lady. She carried it off,
01:12:42.440 didn't she? She pulled it off, that look, I thought. When you've got bone structure like
01:12:49.500 katherine middleton it's difficult to look bad i've got to stop simping
01:12:55.340 just to be clear my simping for kate middleton is ironic it is tongue in cheek i mean she's
01:12:59.980 a pretty lady i'm not questioning that but all right stop simping for for kate got it
01:13:07.580 shown also says it says phone a taxi phone a taxi say you have a dog no m driver
01:13:19.500 You know what she's saying there, Harry?
01:13:22.560 Did you get that?
01:13:24.020 Phone a taxi, say you have a dog, no M driver.
01:13:26.980 What's M driver?
01:13:28.260 Sorry, I don't know.
01:13:30.460 I'm sorry, maybe it's really obvious what you're saying there.
01:13:32.340 I don't get it.
01:13:33.940 No M driver.
01:13:36.500 Fortean Barber says, thanks anyway.
01:13:39.860 Fortean Barber says, morning, Bob, all right?
01:13:42.180 Yeah, I'm all right, mate.
01:13:43.380 You're all right.
01:13:44.200 I hope you are.
01:13:45.820 You say, I went to check out my friend and fellow,
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01:14:21.500 Shona said, Ed, Ange and Andy, threesome madder than just two.
01:14:27.100 Don't, please.
01:14:30.480 Please.
01:14:34.320 I haven't had any breakfast yet.
01:14:35.720 My stomach's empty.
01:14:36.440 That's not going to...
01:14:37.380 Okay.
01:14:40.440 Shona again said, my mood is not honest.
01:14:43.620 Takiyah.
01:14:46.080 Yeah.
01:14:47.640 Takiya, Takiya, however you pronounce that
01:14:49.300 That Muslim tactic of pretending
01:14:54.520 Of pretending you're not like a hard, hardline Islamist
01:14:58.940 In order to infiltrate your enemies better, more efficiently
01:15:02.180 Yeah
01:15:05.400 Okay, BruteLife2314 says
01:15:12.120 At least all the people running for PM this week are British
01:15:15.880 more right wing than the tories loving the content bow i love bbc thank you sir
01:15:22.700 thank you brute life appreciate that and you're right yeah yeah you're right
01:15:27.100 yeah thanks that cheers appreciate it appreciate it bill wilson 1225 says
01:15:35.140 why does lammy not simply eat the other contenders right why not we're stopping him
01:15:45.880 Two more from Shona say
01:15:49.560 Go back to folk
01:15:53.740 Who don't need the money as MPs
01:15:55.800 Okay
01:15:58.560 And the other one is
01:16:00.100 Rent boys was a schlieffen plan
01:16:04.320 We'll have to find out what's going on with that
01:16:12.780 Surely
01:16:13.140 Well not surely
01:16:13.980 I was going to say
01:16:14.700 I was going to say
01:16:15.380 Surely they can't
01:16:16.820 They can't have put a full blown
01:16:18.200 D notice on it
01:16:20.260 D order
01:16:20.760 I always forget what the actual phrasing is
01:16:22.920 When
01:16:23.540 You're legally not allowed to report on it
01:16:26.000 Is it that sensitive?
01:16:28.700 Is it really?
01:16:30.640 Doesn't seem right
01:16:31.600 But that is a Schlieffen plan
01:16:34.280 A giant left hook from our enemies
01:16:37.700 A giant left hook from Ukraine
01:16:43.000 to burn down Keir Starmer's car
01:16:46.980 okay
01:16:48.280 noble Johnny Calley says
01:16:51.640 morning Bo
01:16:52.400 have you heard of James of Queensbury
01:16:57.500 he had become famous
01:17:00.280 as the cannibalistic idiot
01:17:03.080 after an incident in 1707
01:17:05.040 James was left alone in his cell
01:17:07.780 at Holyrood Palace by guards
01:17:09.900 That only vaguely rings a bell for me
01:17:14.320 It does ring a bell
01:17:15.040 But I can't know if I
01:17:16.220 Cannibalistic idiot
01:17:19.140 Did he meet
01:17:20.520 I can't remember
01:17:23.360 It sounds really interesting though
01:17:25.780 I'll look it up
01:17:28.000 That's exactly the sort of thing I'd like to spend
01:17:29.720 I would spend my little bit of spare time
01:17:32.540 I'm going to quick read about that
01:17:34.360 Okay
01:17:37.560 Shona again says
01:17:39.880 I never declare any five mil I get
01:17:42.480 Yeah
01:17:42.700 Yeah put it straight in the Swiss bank account
01:17:45.780 Straight in the Caymans
01:17:47.080 Every time I get given five million quid
01:17:51.360 That's what I do
01:17:51.980 Yeah
01:17:55.100 Okay
01:17:57.060 Noble Johnny Calley again says
01:17:58.480 James escaped
01:17:59.420 This is James of Queensbury again
01:18:01.660 The cannibalistic idiot
01:18:02.660 I saw you talking about
01:18:04.440 James escaped
01:18:05.480 And went into the kitchen
01:18:06.920 Where he found a cook's boy
01:18:08.260 Turning a spit
01:18:09.840 He seized and killed the boy
01:18:11.540 Then he impaled him on the spit
01:18:13.220 And roasted him before the fire
01:18:14.740 That does ring some sort of bell with me
01:18:17.760 But
01:18:17.960 Well okay
01:18:20.060 History is filled with such crazy things isn't it
01:18:23.080 If it's even true
01:18:24.120 Imagine doing that though
01:18:26.980 And then ate him
01:18:33.600 Interesting
01:18:33.960 I will google that later
01:18:34.920 I will google that later
01:18:35.980 Okay
01:18:36.780 Mr Molotov
01:18:37.880 Super fan
01:18:38.460 Funny on Twitter
01:18:39.740 he says off-topic question uh which was more based first roman triumvirate or second huh
01:18:46.900 which is more based this is a classic history nerds fan uh history history nerd question
01:18:55.260 right well so the first triumvirate what is that that's um that's crassus caesar and pompey isn't
01:19:01.280 it pretty based pretty based and what the second triumvirate's octavian augustus mark anthony and
01:19:09.180 Lepidus
01:19:10.940 I feel like the first
01:19:13.680 Traumvirate is more based
01:19:14.600 whatever that means in ancient
01:19:17.680 Roman history
01:19:18.260 I'm going to say first Traumvirate
01:19:21.520 I don't think
01:19:23.440 Antony is particularly based
01:19:25.380 maybe you could make the argument
01:19:27.240 it's a bit of a degenerate
01:19:29.280 if you
01:19:31.600 believe the anti
01:19:32.480 Mark Antony propaganda
01:19:35.580 I'm going to say the first Traumvirate
01:19:38.780 Okay, again, could break that down, make a two-hour piece of content talking about that.
01:19:43.760 Good question.
01:19:45.160 Thank you.
01:19:47.060 Our Rob or Ross says, in Burnham's potential seat, the Greens won every ward last week
01:19:54.200 and would likely win the by-election.
01:19:55.600 Yeah, good point.
01:19:56.320 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:19:57.060 So in that seat, Afsal Khan, yeah, the Greens swept up at the local election.
01:20:02.280 Very good point.
01:20:02.740 Should have said that in the main show.
01:20:03.980 Very good point.
01:20:04.440 Thank you.
01:20:04.720 And yeah, if you extrapolate that out to
01:20:07.820 If there was a by-election for the parliamentary seat there
01:20:11.320 Which isn't necessarily the case at all
01:20:14.460 But if you did do that
01:20:15.620 Yeah, the Greens would win it easily
01:20:17.460 Easily
01:20:19.720 So is that a quote-unquote safe seat for Burnham?
01:20:26.040 No, not at all, not really
01:20:27.820 And you can only imagine because of those local election results
01:20:32.540 Greens would try really hard there to scupper Burnham.
01:20:38.200 That would be so funny.
01:20:39.720 That would be so funny if Burnham was allowed to run for a by-election and lost.
01:20:46.340 Oh, my giddy aunt.
01:20:50.620 I might actually buy a bottle of champagne.
01:20:54.220 Genuinely, really.
01:20:56.560 And crack it open.
01:20:57.560 that would be hilarious okay uh shona again says somali pirate appointed boulders are for the win
01:21:08.500 what here boulders are here in america okay um kick you in the throat that's their name
01:21:19.680 at kick you in the throat says fun fact england is roughly the size of alabama with rough roughly
01:21:26.220 20% more coastline
01:21:27.880 That's interesting, yeah
01:21:29.140 In Britain, the isles
01:21:32.640 Of Great Britain
01:21:33.960 It's not that big
01:21:35.720 It's not that big
01:21:37.920 You're only ever something like 70 or 80 odd miles
01:21:40.600 From the coast, you go to the very very heart
01:21:42.380 Of England, geographically
01:21:44.040 As the crow flyers, the furthest away
01:21:46.420 From the sea, and you're still only something like
01:21:48.020 70 or 80 odd miles from the sea
01:21:49.940 At any given moment
01:21:50.660 It's not a very big island, really
01:21:53.280 In the scheme of things
01:21:55.040 One of the highest population densities in the world
01:22:00.360 We've got a little bit of Greenbelt left
01:22:04.160 A little bit of open countryside and stuff
01:22:07.840 A few moors
01:22:08.720 But if we're not careful it will turn into Coruscant
01:22:12.880 The whole island is one big city and suburb
01:22:17.440 I can see in a few centuries time that's the case
01:22:20.820 The whole of this island is one big city
01:22:23.940 I don't want that
01:22:27.060 I don't want that
01:22:28.520 I don't want my country flooded with people
01:22:31.320 Why should we?
01:22:34.700 Why should we?
01:22:38.100 Okay
01:22:38.400 Tatum2733 says
01:22:42.820 Who would you prefer?
01:22:45.140 Low MP or Bodicea as Queen?
01:22:51.160 Okay
01:22:53.940 Do you think I've got long-form content about Rome and Britain?
01:22:58.760 On Bode's Epochs, my history-themed show behind the paywall.
01:23:02.880 Do you consider joining for those £5 a month,
01:23:04.820 Bronze Team Membership, lotuses.com.
01:23:06.900 Hundreds and hundreds of hours of history-themed content,
01:23:08.860 me talking about history.
01:23:09.680 Do you reckon there's a few videos there,
01:23:10.920 more than one, of me talking about Rome and Britain?
01:23:15.700 What do you reckon?
01:23:16.940 Yeah? No?
01:23:18.760 Well, yes, yes, there is, yeah.
01:23:20.200 Talk all about
01:23:22.940 Boudiccia's revolt
01:23:25.220 I pronounce it Boudiccia
01:23:26.340 I've got no truck with all this Boudicca nonsense
01:23:29.520 Oh no, I was raised
01:23:31.360 It's Boudiccia
01:23:32.200 Boudicca
01:23:34.700 Queen Boudiccia
01:23:36.920 Her or Rupert Lowe
01:23:38.980 Well her, she was a total badass
01:23:40.760 She was pretty much a complete badass
01:23:43.780 Not that I haven't got
01:23:49.360 full confidence in Rupert Lowe's
01:23:51.540 sort of political
01:23:52.420 stamina, his will.
01:23:56.780 But I feel like
01:23:57.980 Bodicea would get
01:23:59.520 S done
01:24:00.300 real quick.
01:24:04.260 Yeah, sorry, I go for that.
01:24:07.080 Bodicea's not mucking about.
01:24:08.140 She's playing for keeps.
01:24:13.100 Okay.
01:24:14.280 Another one from Shona.
01:24:16.720 Oliver Reed
01:24:17.600 has Achilles.
01:24:19.360 Fight him in his day
01:24:22.520 Oliver Reed is Achilles
01:24:24.740 I don't know if you're just suggesting that
01:24:27.920 Or whether he did at some point play Achilles
01:24:29.780 In some old 60s or 70s thing
01:24:32.960 I've not seen that one if he did
01:24:35.020 Could work
01:24:37.960 A young Oliver Reed was
01:24:39.500 Could be reasonably intimidating, couldn't he?
01:24:44.460 I would want some giant hulking dude
01:24:47.300 like super super buff and ripped but a good actor is there such a thing is there such a thing as uh
01:24:55.780 well i was gonna say arnie like a young arnie but arnie was never a great actor was he
01:25:01.140 really really great but back in his day someone like arnie that would work
01:25:06.980 someone like slyre stallone circa rambo 2 era that's what you want sly when he was at his
01:25:13.780 biggest when his neck came straight out from the bottom of his ears rambo 2 rambo 3 era sly
01:25:21.460 that's what it should be not ellen page ellen page ridiculous ridiculous thing all right
01:25:32.420 barton bella says uh lewis unsolved life deletion mystery
01:25:39.380 is is fascinating lewis unsolved life deletion mystery is fascinating i don't know what
01:25:48.500 i'm sorry i don't know you've lost me there i'm afraid lewis unsolved i'm sorry i don't get it
01:25:55.220 sorry thanks for the super chat though okay whenever i don't get these i sort of feel like
01:26:01.200 it's kind of obvious what you're saying and i'm just being dumb but okay for all two three one
01:26:06.880 says can you accept cyclops witches and sea monsters but you don't accept a 2021 bmw 5 series
01:26:15.760 50 uh 530i with optional heated seating why are you so bigoted
01:26:23.560 that's tickled me
01:26:32.680 a 2021 bmw 5 series
01:26:38.800 why am i finding that so funny
01:26:42.620 so specific i think because it's so specific
01:26:47.980 right np npc
01:26:53.560 bs 3pm says what would happen if the right wing of the uk while in power uh pushed the king to
01:27:02.020 make the king's speech his own i am not joking what so the right imagine that some sort of
01:27:09.620 right-wing party got in and then said to king charles you write your own speech use your own
01:27:13.500 words whatever you say we as your government will just do any of it it's not a good idea
01:27:21.440 i don't want that you're saying what would happen if i mean well it would be a disaster because he's
01:27:28.120 a moron he's a crazy globalist sort of traitorous crypto lefty moron king charles sausage fingers
01:27:36.160 it's like cobo guther we don't want to do that in bows britain if i somehow magically found myself
01:27:41.980 lord protector there was still a king let's say sorry not lord protector there was still a king
01:27:45.760 and i was just prime minister with a massive majority i wouldn't do anything like that
01:27:50.000 I might even pass some legislation to curtail the king further, the monarch further
01:27:55.720 Muzzle them further
01:27:59.080 I don't really want you speaking about anything political or anything really at all
01:28:03.440 Sit in your palace and be willed out when we will you out
01:28:08.100 And say what we tell you to say
01:28:09.380 I don't want to hear about environmentalism from you
01:28:13.300 I don't want to hear about it
01:28:15.120 I don't want to hear about equality and stuff
01:28:20.180 From the king
01:28:20.900 Just pipe down and be quiet
01:28:23.400 And when we need you to read a speech
01:28:26.220 Our words, you can do that
01:28:27.840 Otherwise, shtum
01:28:29.180 That's my
01:28:31.320 That's my feeling on it
01:28:33.720 Okay, and the last one
01:28:36.980 Is this the last one?
01:28:37.800 Yep, okay, last one
01:28:38.880 From Noble Johnny Caddy again
01:28:41.080 Says
01:28:41.360 Yes, Bo, it is true
01:28:43.640 I learned of an old historical happenstance
01:28:46.420 While reading Douglas Murray's
01:28:48.080 Bosie
01:28:49.400 The Tragic Life of Lord Alfred Douglas
01:28:52.260 I don't know exactly what you're agreeing with me
01:28:55.940 That it is true
01:28:56.720 But
01:28:58.520 Bosie
01:29:00.240 Is that
01:29:00.720 The Tragic Life of Lord Alfred Douglas
01:29:03.900 Was that
01:29:04.960 The lover
01:29:09.840 The gay lover of
01:29:11.040 Oscar Wilde
01:29:13.640 Is that, is that who that was?
01:29:18.340 Sorry if I'm completely wrong, if I'm completely off the mark.
01:29:20.360 This is all just, is that who that was?
01:29:23.340 Douglas Murray wrote, if it was, Douglas Murray wrote a whole book about that.
01:29:28.380 Of course he did.
01:29:31.320 Of course he did.
01:29:34.280 The strange career of Douglas Murray.
01:29:39.600 Right.
01:29:41.000 We've had two more Rumble Rents come in.
01:29:42.800 Shall I read those?
01:29:43.340 Why not? I'm in no rush today
01:29:44.740 Two more have come in
01:29:46.740 Ryan Hinnigan
01:29:50.420 Says
01:29:51.960 American asking about British civics
01:29:55.020 If Starmer calls a snap election
01:29:57.460 Does the next election
01:29:59.020 Still happen in 2029
01:30:00.480 Or do you guys wait another five years for the next one
01:30:03.180 I believe that's the case
01:30:04.660 That the five years sort of reset
01:30:07.220 I believe that's the case
01:30:09.020 I might be wrong
01:30:10.120 The rules were changed relatively recently under Cameron
01:30:12.920 I say relatively
01:30:13.900 like 10-15 years ago
01:30:15.340 Cameron changed the rules
01:30:16.940 I believe there's
01:30:18.160 like a set period
01:30:18.900 so after
01:30:19.340 the next general election
01:30:20.680 they can call one earlier
01:30:21.780 if they want
01:30:22.260 but
01:30:22.500 after there's
01:30:24.120 a general election
01:30:24.860 whenever that is
01:30:25.680 you've then got
01:30:26.660 five years going forward
01:30:27.820 from that point
01:30:28.400 and they can call one earlier
01:30:29.640 if they want
01:30:30.020 but
01:30:30.200 I believe that's
01:30:31.500 I believe that's how it works now
01:30:32.500 yeah I believe that's how it works
01:30:36.620 I might be wrong
01:30:37.860 correct me if I'm wrong on that
01:30:38.680 I should know for sure
01:30:39.780 I'm sort of 80% confident
01:30:41.900 90% confident of that
01:30:42.900 okay and the last one the very last one jc warlock another super fan thank you sir
01:30:49.180 it says or or madam i don't know if you're a man or one says why does the king have such a
01:30:56.940 hard-on for islam it's a valid question isn't it is it because he knocked off dodie and diana
01:31:04.400 also Loch Ness Castle
01:31:10.760 we also mentioned
01:31:11.980 Loch Ness Castle thing
01:31:12.840 the Dodie and Diana
01:31:15.940 deaths
01:31:17.460 I think all the various investigations
01:31:22.240 concluded that
01:31:23.300 it was just a journalist
01:31:25.740 that was the journalist
01:31:28.020 chasing their Mercedes
01:31:30.020 through Paris that night
01:31:31.240 and that their driver was really drunk
01:31:33.900 I know you're only sort of mucking about half-joking but wasn't their driver shown to be
01:31:39.760 not just a bit drunk he was like massively drunk wasn't it if I recall rightly like he's like many
01:31:46.360 times over the legal driving limit he was completely sloshed anyway I think you're only
01:31:53.980 I think you're only largely mucking about all right that's the show it's now uh 31 minutes
01:31:59.800 past nine in the a.m. British summertime on Thursday the 14th of May in the year of our
01:32:05.640 rule 2026 you've been the glorious band the chosen few thank you for watching really genuinely
01:32:10.140 without you isn't a thing thank you try make the best of the day ahead you know carpe diem
01:32:15.300 seize the day try and make it count you'll never have this day again you've got a finite number
01:32:19.360 of these days on this earth if you can try and do something valuable with your time all right
01:32:26.380 I won't get too preachy about it.
01:32:27.400 Until tomorrow morning.
01:32:28.860 Take care.