The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - Breakfast With Beau ｜ Thursday 14th May 2026

00:00:00.000 Morning

00:00:08.080 You alright?

00:00:14.120 I hope you are

00:00:14.940 I hope you had a nice day yesterday

00:00:16.260 Nice evening

00:00:16.940 I hope you're bright eyed and bushy tailed

00:00:20.340 Rocking and raring for the day ahead

00:00:21.860 Come on wakey wakey

00:00:24.160 Have some eggs and bakey

00:00:25.120 Let's do this

00:00:27.760 Let's bow

00:00:29.040 i'm joined by my producer little harry as always how are you this morning good sir

00:00:34.680 morning i'm all good disembodied voice of the producer with god-like powers

00:00:40.000 okay you're the glorious band of the chosen few aren't you you know who you are

00:00:45.580 and you're here so you're the best people on earth you're watching this live you're in the

00:00:50.120 chat you're doing the poll we've got a bowl today haven't we harry every day yeah yeah cool it's

00:00:55.380 live yeah good all right thanks for joining me thanks for joining me without you guys it really

00:01:02.480 really isn't a thing um it is odd when people in the chat correctly guess what i'm wearing

00:01:08.020 how do they know

00:01:12.800 okay all right let's stop faffing about shall we why are you fannying about you've come here for

00:01:22.440 the news what's in the news cycle this morning what's the legacy corporate mainstream media

00:01:25.900 banging on about what was that cabal of evil frankly quite evil fleet street editors a cabal

00:01:32.140 of them they're in cahoots of course they are what are they trying to lie to you by omission

00:01:40.980 about this morning all right it's another almost wall-to-wall starma day not quite we've got a

00:01:49.000 bit of nige we've got a little bit of trump and winnie the pooh and the odd the odd thing here

00:01:54.840 or there but it's larger a little bit of the radiant princess of wales but it's mainly

00:02:01.240 keir starmer and west treating angela rayner andy burnham

00:02:06.680 all right let's just get into it then on today's set to be the day then where the leadership

00:02:14.920 contest is triggered that's what they're all saying it might even be shortly after the beau show ends

00:02:24.120 what's the beau show that's the stream you're watching

00:02:28.520 it's only colloquially known as the beau show formerly it's breakfast with beau

00:02:33.320 you can buy one of these mugs it says morning you all right on it

00:02:36.760 right so the headlines are where's prime minister question mark where's prime minister question

00:02:47.940 mark and my flair lady

00:02:50.400 kate middleton the princess of wales prince william's wife is in italy on some sort of tour

00:03:04.720 you know royal royal to her and uh she wore some trousers that are a bit flared

00:03:11.300 she looked radiant though of course all right let's start oh god the metro

00:03:18.300 exasperating whenever they start with the guardian or the metro

00:03:27.700 okay the metro one of the very very worst things in the world the metro

00:03:35.640 sort of profoundly disappointing to me the metro

00:03:43.340 that it exists right health secretary has his eyes on the priors look there he is standing in

00:03:52.000 in the commons yesterday so yesterday then just let you know what happened was as we

00:03:56.120 Told you yesterday morning

00:03:57.380 The King opened Parliament

00:03:59.800 And then there was

00:04:02.840 You know

00:04:04.200 They always talk

00:04:05.200 Have a little bit of a debate

00:04:06.600 A normal course of events

00:04:08.760 They then go to the Commons

00:04:10.200 And talk about it a bit

00:04:11.400 But of course

00:04:12.220 This one

00:04:12.840 Way more MPs than usual

00:04:15.380 Packed in there

00:04:16.020 Because it's

00:04:16.780 Everyone knows

00:04:17.540 That it's sort of

00:04:19.220 A crunch moment

00:04:20.860 Potentially

00:04:21.500 Or just is

00:04:22.280 A crunch moment

00:04:26.120 A classic exchange, just says it all really

00:04:30.240 Starmer stands up and he's got his little speech

00:04:32.760 He's talking about government, what the government wants to do next

00:04:35.100 Over the next year

00:04:36.240 His legislative agenda

00:04:38.780 And Kemi, one of the things she says

00:04:41.840 She just stands up and says

00:04:42.620 Yeah, that's all well and good

00:04:43.460 But you're not going to be here to do any of it, are you mate?

00:04:45.940 She didn't say mate

00:04:46.580 So everyone knows

00:04:50.840 West Street is standing in the sidelines

00:04:53.120 Most of it he was sitting on the front bench

00:04:54.660 Still sitting on the front bench

00:04:55.760 then later in the day or was it before the king's speech i think it was after the king's speech

00:05:02.180 i don't even remember now seems like yesterday seems like quite a long time ago to me i don't

00:05:06.980 know about you but um he did have that one-on-one meeting with the pm at number 10 and it only

00:05:15.760 lasted 15 minutes 16 minutes between going in the front door and coming back out the front door was

00:05:21.820 16 minutes so it was less than 16 minutes he was actually sitting there with keir starmer so

00:05:26.640 you know very quick exchange i've seen no sorts of real deal there's not time enough for any sort

00:05:34.900 of deal between them to be struck and hammered out or anything like that so i can only sort of

00:05:40.140 imagine that it was west street in saying i'm going to i'm going to do it i'm going to launch

00:05:47.660 Formally, launch a leadership did

00:05:49.740 Against you, and Keir Starmer saying

00:05:51.600 Okay

00:05:52.160 I doubt that was his response, just like that

00:05:55.520 Completely calm

00:05:58.140 Completely emotionless

00:05:59.500 Okay

00:05:59.740 Now

00:06:01.500 I imagine it's just

00:06:03.820 The writing's on the wall

00:06:05.680 Maybe not, maybe not

00:06:08.220 We'll talk about that in the show today

00:06:12.300 All the different possible permutations

00:06:14.300 Of what could happen

00:06:15.400 One of which is that

00:06:17.280 There is a full leadership contest, and Keir Starmer wins that.

00:06:21.680 He enters it himself.

00:06:22.620 He doesn't just slink off into the dustbin of history.

00:06:26.240 He enters that race and wins.

00:06:29.480 I mean, it's happened before.

00:06:30.900 When did it happen before?

00:06:32.400 John Major.

00:06:33.400 John Major in the 1990s.

00:06:35.640 It was John Redwood.

00:06:39.360 Anyone old enough to remember John Redwood?

00:06:43.240 Yeah, John Major had that.

00:06:45.000 Another guy in the Tory party, John Redwood.

00:06:47.280 mp uh launched a leadership bid against john major

00:06:53.760 john major pulled a starmer there and was like oh i don't accept it i've still got the numbers

00:06:58.960 in the party i think i mean it's bad it looks really bad doesn't it it undermines his authority

00:07:05.360 massively and everything people can say they didn't then but people can say you're a zombie

00:07:11.440 Prime Minister now, your party's some sort of zombie party, zombie government, but nonetheless

00:07:17.520 you cling on, you cling on to power by your fingernails, it could be that Starmer does

00:07:23.620 that. It's not that crazy of an idea. Apparently he does, or well he just does, seem to have

00:07:32.240 a big chunk of the Parliamentary Labour Party behind him still. That's not the whole story

00:07:39.180 though is it it's also about members and unions getting votes in and a say in all this okay we'll

00:07:46.800 get on to that stuff as we go through the show all right health secretary has his eyes on the prize

00:07:53.880 wes prime minister streeting to launch a challenge for keir starmer's job today

00:08:00.120 after number 10 showdown that was that 16 minute thing says allies

00:08:04.780 than streeting allies are you ready for loads and loads of puns to do with the word street

00:08:12.600 or streeting not just today just going forward now

00:08:16.560 fleet street's going to rinse their ability to come up with puns including the word street in it

00:08:25.380 aren't they

00:08:25.820 I think we've got one or two today

00:08:30.160 Already

00:08:31.060 Drama on Day King revealed new legislation

00:08:35.020 But Kemi tells PM

00:08:36.300 You won't be here to deliver it

00:08:38.080 Summer of course

00:08:40.660 You can see that little picture

00:08:41.500 I'm still just pretending it's all good

00:08:43.700 It's fine

00:08:44.720 See the decision he's made

00:08:48.720 Put on our brave front

00:08:55.820 Tears of a clown, okay, the sun, oh look, you ready, are you ready for Catherine Middleton, the princess of Wales, his flares, you ready for this, it's big news, it's big, it's important stuff, here we go, there's the radiant Kate Middleton in Italy, boom.

00:09:18.640 The tabloids love talking about what, what women wear, don't they, that's just one of their things.

00:09:25.820 My flair lady

00:09:28.440 Alright

00:09:31.880 Tea in the moustache

00:09:35.620 The old soup strainer

00:09:37.980 Alright, Labour in civil war

00:09:40.100 It is basically civil war

00:09:41.620 Everyone's saying that

00:09:44.160 West Street is going to trigger this thing today

00:09:45.780 They're all saying that

00:09:47.140 It seems like that's certainly going to happen

00:09:49.400 That's not just like rumour and scuttlebutt

00:09:51.980 It may or may not

00:09:53.380 It seems like that is definitely going to happen

00:09:55.180 So over the next month or more

00:09:57.600 It just will be full blown civil war

00:10:00.500 In the Labour Party

00:10:02.760 Alright

00:10:05.500 Civil war, it's war, happy now

00:10:07.900 Where's to quit and launch a leader bid

00:10:10.380 Defiant PM

00:10:11.880 He must not win

00:10:13.600 That was one of the things that apparently is coming out of

00:10:15.980 Of number 10

00:10:17.640 And the Starmer camp

00:10:19.200 That he's decided

00:10:20.820 On some level, on sort of a strategic level

00:10:24.700 That at all costs

00:10:26.680 Streeting can't win

00:10:28.820 Can't beat him

00:10:29.520 Okay

00:10:32.080 Ed, Andy and Ange

00:10:34.480 To join battle

00:10:35.460 So yeah, once it's

00:10:37.560 Once it's triggered

00:10:38.900 Then the floodgates are open

00:10:41.240 Right

00:10:42.260 Then the other big beasts

00:10:44.700 Can launch

00:10:46.700 Their bid as well

00:10:48.420 Ed Miliband

00:10:49.380 People are saying

00:10:50.900 People are on the inside of the Westminster bubble

00:10:52.640 Truly on the inside

00:10:53.440 say Ed Miliband will do it

00:10:56.500 Angela Rayner will do it

00:10:58.360 and Andy Burnham will do it

00:11:00.920 each one of them needs

00:11:02.820 I believe each one of them needs

00:11:04.600 81 MPs to back them

00:11:06.540 so

00:11:06.800 only

00:11:10.400 only two or three could

00:11:12.960 we'll talk a little bit

00:11:15.080 also later in a minute we'll talk a little bit

00:11:16.960 about the technical details

00:11:19.040 of the race

00:11:20.040 how all that works because over the few days over the last few days you've seen you've noticed

00:11:27.840 that there's like this magic number of 81 to to launch a leadership campaign well

00:11:31.560 that was only part of that catherine west's what they call it a stalking horse it wasn't that was

00:11:36.820 it what was the phrase they would use about her she was just um that was just like a mechanism

00:11:43.700 to to launch it but you would actually need 81 mps a block of mps all for that one person whether

00:11:52.340 it's west streeting or or ed milliband um the question then about andy and ang though

00:11:59.200 well andy's not an mp we'll talk about that in a minute as well don't worry

00:12:04.420 An Ange

00:12:06.080 Angela the Fridge Rayner, Big Bird

00:12:08.280 Well, she is

00:12:11.100 You know, still embroiled in a HMRC controversy

00:12:17.460 And can't stand

00:12:18.200 Oh no, wait, breaking news

00:12:19.840 This morning, Angela Rayner said she's been cleared by HMRC

00:12:23.740 After stamp duty, Rao

00:12:24.940 That's remarkable timing, isn't it?

00:12:28.680 That's really quite remarkable

00:12:29.800 Look, it's all over

00:12:30.660 All the newspapers went to print last night

00:12:33.160 So they didn't have this

00:12:33.680 It's literally breaking this morning it seems

00:12:35.260 Angela Rayner says she has been cleared by HMRC over tax affairs

00:12:39.100 A remarkable timing isn't it

00:12:42.820 Sort of literally on the day

00:12:44.440 The morning of the day

00:12:45.640 When she would need to be cleared

00:12:47.600 She is

00:12:48.220 Sky News

00:12:50.280 Rayner settles an unpaid tax bill

00:12:52.920 Paving way for leadership challenge

00:12:54.480 Convenient isn't it

00:12:58.080 Alright

00:13:03.480 so she's got this like big flat well actually i don't know how big it is i assume it's big

00:13:07.580 on the south coast down in brighton and hove somewhere 800 grand flat she's supposed to have

00:13:13.800 paid something in the order of 40 grand stamp duty on it and didn't she claims that was sort

00:13:20.940 of a genuine mistake she'd asked you know lawyers and things make sure all my affairs are in order

00:13:27.440 and according to her they said everything is then later it transpired she hadn't paid the

00:13:33.680 stamp duty on it and apparently hmrc have decided now or yesterday or last night or

00:13:42.320 very early this morning i know decided that that was a good faith error

00:13:47.600 she hasn't certainly hasn't broken the law and actually did nothing intentionally wrong

00:13:52.240 oh okay okay the timing fair enough then well if that's the if that is indeed the case then fair

00:14:02.280 enough i mean she should have known better like how do you not know about stamp duty

00:14:09.840 but okay if you're a grown-up and you own properties and stuff but okay

00:14:16.160 But the timing of it is absolutely

00:14:20.380 Remarkable

00:14:23.360 Alright

00:14:26.200 So that's what's going on with Big Ange

00:14:28.280 She's a unit isn't she

00:14:32.260 Alright

00:14:33.460 And

00:14:34.060 She said she's been saying

00:14:38.040 That even though she seemed to have backed Burnham

00:14:40.640 Only like a week ago

00:14:41.940 Sort of openly definitely backed him

00:14:43.820 And is the guy

00:14:45.400 she's now saying no not necessarily i've got no pact with him formal pact with him

00:14:50.360 i've got no formal pact with web streeting or anything in other words and now i'm cleared by

00:14:56.840 hmrc in other words she can completely launch her own leadership bid entirely in her own right

00:15:04.260 should she get 81 mps to sort of back that street fighter oh there you go they started

00:15:11.020 with the street the street word play the puns with the word street or streeting in it okay street

00:15:19.180 fighter looks like uh right it looks like ken ken's let himself go ken's had a few too many fray

00:15:29.500 Ben Toss.

00:15:33.780 A Cairn out of Street Fighter.

00:15:35.080 Yeah, no, okay.

00:15:38.380 Tough crowd.

00:15:40.560 Okay.

00:15:41.380 The times, the venerable times.

00:15:43.340 Joan Collins still got it at 92.

00:15:46.080 I doubt it.

00:15:49.300 Streeting prepares to quit ahead of number 10 challenge.

00:15:53.120 So that's what they're all saying.

00:15:54.780 Starmer warns of plunge into chaos.

00:15:57.380 That's his line, isn't it?

00:15:58.340 That's his thing.

00:15:58.820 Don't do this

00:15:59.920 Because it will just mean chaos

00:16:01.660 For the party in the country

00:16:03.000 Again we've said in the last few days

00:16:05.860 Don't need to labour the point anymore

00:16:07.280 You're the chaos

00:16:09.160 Sir Queer

00:16:10.440 What's going on with that trial

00:16:13.460 With those Ukrainian

00:16:14.880 Boys

00:16:17.420 And the fires they set

00:16:20.420 I heard they pleaded innocent

00:16:22.180 I thought Bolesky mainstream media

00:16:26.240 Is saying nothing about it

00:16:26.900 I don't know if there's a full

00:16:27.640 de-notice de-order whatever they call it where they're legally not allowed to

00:16:34.200 think john wong of vox populi been going down i have to get in touch with him

00:16:38.200 i will i will get in touch with him john all right mate um let me know have you been

00:16:45.080 you've been in court let us know i'll get in touch with you today try to find out what's going on

00:16:50.440 there find out if we're legally even allowed to talk about it

00:16:58.600 of course the legacy mainstream media just utterly utterly blanking it

00:17:04.280 okay health secretary seeks backing of 81 labor mps all right so actually this is a moment we could

00:17:12.360 delve a little bit into the details there was a story was it in the mail or the express

00:17:18.200 oh god i should have had it lined up properly where they talk about uh like some of the details

00:17:24.440 Of it

00:17:24.940 Okay I won't spend

00:17:26.540 More than a few seconds

00:17:27.500 Trying to find out

00:17:27.960 I'll just tell you about it

00:17:29.280 What it is

00:17:31.860 Is that the

00:17:35.800 Parliamentary Labour Party

00:17:36.840 As well as members

00:17:38.020 As well as unions

00:17:40.320 Will have a vote

00:17:41.280 On this thing

00:17:42.480 And they will narrow it down

00:17:43.920 If one person

00:17:45.360 Gets 50%

00:17:46.680 Of

00:17:47.280 All those votes

00:17:48.560 Those people's first votes

00:17:50.440 As you get a first

00:17:51.820 Second and third vote

00:17:52.660 I believe

00:17:52.940 If one person gets 50%, just 50% of all those votes, that's it, it's over, they win, that person has won

00:17:58.760 If no one person gets 50%, then the person who comes last out of all of those is done

00:18:12.040 They're out of the race

00:18:12.980 And all the people whose first vote went to them, their second vote gets counted for the rest

00:18:20.760 and so on until it's whittled down to just two okay i don't know if that's needlessly complicated

00:18:29.460 or what but that's how they do it and then the members get a vote in when it's whittled down to

00:18:37.540 the last two the members get a vote and then so that's sort of a fairly whole different dynamic

00:18:42.380 then at that point isn't it because whoever's most popular with the the membership the normal

00:18:47.340 hundreds and hundreds of thousands oh sorry tens and tens of thousands of labor party members

00:18:53.060 they mostly like andy burnham will andy burnham even be in that last two will he be even in the

00:19:01.700 race at all talk about that in a moment um so there you go

00:19:11.360 so ang can enter wes streeting can enter if they get 81 now there's only i say only it's a massive

00:19:21.660 majority but there's only 400 odd mps right starmer gets to automatically enter as a sitting leader

00:19:27.660 he automatically is in the race okay so with the best win in the world you could only have

00:19:34.380 four other people at absolute maximum so let's say let's count streeting as one

00:19:41.360 Yeah

00:19:41.780 Let's count

00:19:43.740 The Fridge

00:19:45.220 As one

00:19:46.060 People saying

00:19:48.380 Miliband

00:19:50.040 He's probably the next biggest name

00:19:51.940 That everyone is saying

00:19:52.660 And I think he has

00:19:53.940 I'm pretty sure

00:19:54.560 He's formally said as well

00:19:56.080 This morning

00:19:56.640 Or yesterday

00:19:57.720 Reported this morning

00:19:59.080 That

00:19:59.760 If a leadership election

00:20:01.680 Should be triggered

00:20:03.220 That he

00:20:05.280 Ed Miliband

00:20:05.840 Would throw his hat into the ring

00:20:06.960 So that's it

00:20:08.040 So that only leaves one more spot

00:20:09.000 And what is that

00:20:09.580 Andy Burnham's spot

00:20:11.360 as i said there's no room really for any others you know a few other names have been bandied

00:20:17.520 around haven't they um shabana mahoud is one but and that's assuming and all of that is assuming

00:20:24.600 that the rest of the labor mps uh will line up into like four distinct camps like that they

00:20:32.200 probably won't will they almost i wouldn't have thought they would and what's really going on

00:20:37.800 here really isn't it is it a battle for the heart and soul of the Labour Party what the Labour Party

00:20:42.080 is what it wants to be how left it's going to be right so streeting is considered crazily

00:20:50.500 considered on the right of the party Starmer is considered on the right of the party

00:20:55.040 Ed Miliband not so much he's considered a bit more left isn't he not the hard left not as much

00:21:02.560 left as they some would like you know like jeremy corbyn and john mcdonald types they truly were

00:21:08.960 the left of the party um angela rayner to the left of starma but not crazily crazy enough

00:21:17.200 andy burnham considered to the left but not the full-blown swivel-eyed psycho left but

00:21:24.960 right so as i was saying yesterday if the stars are seeming to beginning to align for wesley

00:21:30.400 streeting everyone on the left of the party all the the the main most vocal ones that are trying

00:21:37.760 to get rid of starma in the first place triggering triggering all this stuff they're like oh wait no

00:21:41.520 that's not what we wanted this isn't we didn't want less treating if anything we'll try and cue

00:21:47.760 him out of power faster than faster than his trust um so they're sort of some of the headlines saying

00:21:53.520 they're scrambling to get a candidate whether it would be Ed Miliband or now Rayner now the

00:22:02.080 fridge is free to stand they would much rather Ed or Ange over Wes wouldn't they it's full-blown

00:22:12.100 civil war if you're a Labour MP at the moment there's lots to do and talk about and deals to

00:22:19.920 struck and you know all of them are ambitious you wouldn't really be an mp would you some sometimes

00:22:26.800 mps are non-ambitious for power sometimes that is the case nearly always not though nearly always

00:22:34.720 you're in it because you want a top job you want power a little bit more money power

00:22:40.880 A Secretary of State

00:22:45.740 Chauffeur driven car

00:22:47.620 So they're all wrangling

00:22:53.240 Who can I back

00:22:54.200 Who can I get one of the big beasts

00:22:56.720 To promise me a job in government

00:22:58.020 Should they win

00:22:58.680 It's a horrible game really

00:23:03.840 I think it's funny

00:23:06.840 It's all fun and games really

00:23:07.980 But there'll be all sorts of deals

00:23:10.780 and counter deals and machinations behind the scenes all of them like a little hive of ants

00:23:19.980 trying to get the best for themselves okay the guardian

00:23:28.300 makes me sick the guardian okay something about olivia colman don't care about olivia colman

00:23:34.300 streeting on maneuvers ready to launch a leadership challenge today that's one thing

00:23:38.540 they like saying at the moment, on manoeuvres, and all the different allegories, metaphors,

00:23:45.080 similes about war. A lot of them are to do with World War I, for example, at the moment

00:23:49.680 for some reason. I've heard the Schlieffen plan mentioned once or twice. I've heard

00:23:56.060 the trenches. One of the papers, one of the headlines I saw earlier was that yesterday

00:23:59.760 the King's speech was like that winter of 1914 when the English and Germans had a foot

00:24:08.520 it wasn't a full football match but they kicked a ball about in no man's land on christmas eve

00:24:12.920 was it christmas day i.e just like a lull in the fighting that was what yesterday was

00:24:21.960 and now the war's back on yeah weirdly sort of manoeuvres and lots of world war one imagery

00:24:29.000 about all of this

00:24:35.000 all right

00:24:38.120 health secretary in race to win over enough mps to trigger contest right so

00:24:41.800 what you might have seen over the last few days you know that number

00:24:45.960 over the weekend sticking up this 53 said they'll do it 67 do it it's now 85

00:24:49.640 they'll do it well they won't all have been on hope i

00:24:53.080 would have thought few of those would have been

00:24:55.640 west streeting partisans so west streeting needs to build a block of his own of his own 81.

00:25:06.280 but he will have done it he can't launch a bid without that

00:25:09.720 so we can only assume that he has in fact got those numbers

00:25:15.720 all right so so it's on that's the key thing if west streeting has got 81

00:25:20.200 of purely wedge treating partisans ready to rock and roll all right it's on it's on

00:25:28.360 move sparks scramble on left of party to find candidates who oppose him yeah right so who they

00:25:33.560 who they're going with they've they've sort of put the put this thing in motion but wes isn't their

00:25:39.480 guy well at this point it would it would be ang or milliband won't it ed or ang

00:25:46.840 Angela Rayner is a moron full-blown at a glance listen to her for more than five seconds you

00:25:55.940 realize she's a moron and then Miliband's already had a chance hasn't he's already a failed leader

00:26:01.320 and not failed in the way that he's still a titan of politics it's not like Donald Trump

00:26:09.540 loses an election comes back wins even harder it's not like not like William Gladstone

00:26:16.540 winning losing winning again four times his prime minister in and out of office

00:26:21.340 every time his gravitas wasn't destroyed not that is admit ed milliband's not that

00:26:29.580 he had his shot he went to the the public and the public rejected him

00:26:35.980 are they going to go with ed and of course he's obviously like a really weird freak

00:26:40.060 if anything he's a weirder guy than starmer isn't he i think so that's

00:26:43.660 That's what a crazy thing to say.

00:26:46.100 How is that even possible?

00:26:46.860 But he's truly freakish, I believe.

00:26:53.460 He's like that with Zach Polanski, real name David Pauldon.

00:26:56.420 For being just like a weirdo, a weirdo.

00:27:01.240 The other thing about West Streeting is,

00:27:03.780 I don't know how the Labour MPs backing him aren't taking this into account.

00:27:09.760 I guess they are taking it into account, but not enough.

00:27:12.500 That he will lose his seat

00:27:14.460 At the next general election

00:27:15.380 If I was a Labour MP

00:27:20.940 And even if I liked West Streeting

00:27:22.580 Even if I knew he would give me a senior position

00:27:24.840 In government should he become Prime Minister

00:27:26.380 I would still be like

00:27:28.720 Wait, no wait, wait, wait

00:27:29.940 Zoom out a moment, take a breath

00:27:31.760 Zoom out for a moment

00:27:32.500 You're going to lose your seat at the next election

00:27:34.500 We can't have a leader, a Prime Minister

00:27:37.200 Can we?

00:27:39.260 Who's going to lose his seat at the next election

00:27:40.820 Surely that sort of

00:27:42.900 one of the prerequisites of being a prime minister that you're in at least a relatively safe seat

00:27:49.220 at least at the very least that not one where your majority is like

00:27:54.340 600 odd is it five or six hundred odd and in a constituency where

00:28:01.060 the the support for labor is dwindles away moment by moment because it's packed full with more and

00:28:05.620 and more foreigners. Ilford in East London. I know Ilford well. It's near-ish where I

00:28:13.120 grew up. Been to Ilford loads of times. Travelled through Ilford thousands and thousands of

00:28:19.640 times in my life. Travelling from Essex to London to go to university and to go to work

00:28:24.900 for 20 odd years. I know Ilford. I know Ilford. It's a foreign enclave.

00:28:32.740 Whether it's Bangladeshis, Pakistanis or Indians

00:28:37.640 It's one of those places

00:28:40.900 Where the Labour vote is just about clinging on

00:28:45.640 Just clinging on

00:28:47.760 And it will have evaporated by this point

00:28:50.200 And with the unpopularity of Labour in general

00:28:52.820 There's no way, I don't think

00:28:54.940 I don't think there's any way he wins at the next election, you see

00:29:00.680 so so maybe don't make him the leader of your party

00:29:05.720 then that's Labour politicians for you or all politicians all MPs I guess all they're really

00:29:14.880 thinking is if he gets in I might get a decent job for two years that's it that's as far as

00:29:21.540 their thinking goes then is it right but in your career for two years ahead of the party and the

00:29:32.240 country gross isn't it it's kind of gross i would like parliament to be filled with every man jack

00:29:43.920 of them they're putting the the present and the future even the long-term future of the country

00:29:51.320 ahead of everything ahead of personal ambition far ahead of personal gain and ambition far far

00:29:58.680 ahead of it it's the number one thing on their list and the next thing down is a is a million

00:30:03.920 miles away from that but that's just not what they're like is it hardly any of them are like

00:30:09.900 that all right something slightly different this morning one of the other stories we've got

00:30:16.160 Nige. Nige is on the front pages a fair bit this morning. We did this story, didn't we? We covered

00:30:23.040 it. I guess it was last week when it first popped up on the front pages. Now it's a fair bit on the

00:30:27.940 front pages again. Farage faces watchdog inquiry into five million pound gift. So quickly to recap

00:30:36.620 you on that. Relatively shortly before he became an MP, much less than 12 months before he became

00:30:45.360 an mp because remember he only entered the race in clacton what was it a month or two a few weeks

00:30:52.160 before the actual general election quite close to the general election uh because he just saw that

00:30:57.520 the numbers there were good for reform so the candidate they'd already selected him just turf

00:31:02.160 him out when he's here just destroy one more career doesn't matter um he just saw that he could

00:31:08.800 a few uh not too long before that

00:31:15.360 a thailand-based but british guy i was his name christopher harbourn is it mr harbourn yeah

00:31:23.240 he just gave nigel five million pound now this guy is i don't know philanthropist is quite the

00:31:32.940 right word but he dishes out money all over the place like he's given millions and millions of

00:31:37.820 pounds to uh the brexit party and a reform like something to the chain of 20 odd million

00:31:44.080 At various points

00:31:45.440 I think he did give millions

00:31:48.540 A few million pounds to the Tory party as well

00:31:50.500 Some say

00:31:52.620 I think Ben Habib says

00:31:54.060 He might have given Boris Johnson

00:31:55.620 Personally a million quid

00:31:58.120 I'm not sure about that but anyway

00:31:59.640 This guy throws out millions of pounds

00:32:02.920 Here and there like it's candy

00:32:03.920 Well not quite but

00:32:05.500 If he's a billionaire

00:32:06.920 The odd five million quid is not

00:32:09.880 A giant amount is it

00:32:12.320 But anyway

00:32:12.720 He just gave

00:32:15.900 Nigel 5 million quid

00:32:17.840 Alright

00:32:18.280 There's nothing illegal about that

00:32:20.220 Nigel says he spent it all on his

00:32:24.040 Personal security

00:32:26.400 Again nothing wrong with that

00:32:27.500 In fact good

00:32:27.980 Despite all the amount of

00:32:30.700 Shade I throw at Nigel

00:32:32.780 I don't wish him

00:32:34.660 Any physical harm

00:32:36.900 Far from it

00:32:37.560 That'd be terrible

00:32:38.720 Of course

00:32:40.060 So all well and good so far

00:32:42.360 my story so far billionaire gives nigel 5 million quid be nice with it just a friend of yours just

00:32:50.240 gives you five million quid spends it on security well and good okay problem is when nigel became an

00:32:57.800 mp he was supposed to declare that now this is a bit what the wrangling is about the inquiry will

00:33:07.340 be about is that nigel and reform say he didn't have to declare that other people saying no you

00:33:12.740 did though you did have to so that's what the controversy is nigel just says that it was a

00:33:19.600 personal gift it was before i was an mp i've done nothing wrong other people saying no everything

00:33:28.820 that is relevant five million pound is relevant anything that was relevant up to something like

00:33:34.200 12 months before you became an MP

00:33:37.040 You have to

00:33:38.180 The rules say you have to declare that

00:33:40.040 And he didn't

00:33:42.440 So the wrangling is

00:33:43.860 Over that

00:33:45.040 Not whether he did receive 5 million pounds or not

00:33:48.280 That's not in question

00:33:49.420 I'm just not denying that

00:33:51.900 It's just

00:33:52.280 Okay so

00:33:53.320 And then the other question really

00:33:57.260 Perhaps the most salient question about it all

00:33:59.260 Really

00:33:59.760 is did crystal harbourn expect anything in return for that

00:34:07.260 was it truly just a gift between friends and there was there was nothing unsaid off the record

00:34:17.000 about what mr harbourn might have expected in return was it just pure altruism for nigel's

00:34:23.340 safety that he gave him that money or did he want or expect something else in return

00:34:28.940 i mean one thing some people are saying a little bit scurrilous but hey it's the bow show um i'm

00:34:35.480 not scared about saying something a little bit scurrilous um that that harbour has got uh some

00:34:41.400 sort of cryptocurrency or some sort of um some sort of coin of his own or some sort of crypto

00:34:47.020 coin that he promotes something like that i don't know and that nige does promote that a fair bit

00:34:53.020 Again, not necessarily anything illegal in that

00:34:59.560 In and of itself

00:35:02.300 But it just does beg the question

00:35:06.000 Why didn't Nigel, though, declare it?

00:35:10.840 Because if he just declared it

00:35:12.160 Then his enemies, Nigel's enemies

00:35:13.860 Have got nothing to say

00:35:15.360 So why didn't you just declare it?

00:35:19.520 I don't know

00:35:20.440 Because that's what a lot of them do

00:35:22.580 like david lammy right he takes loads of money off all sorts of people all the time but he just

00:35:27.620 declares it or was it uh george brown someone called george brown just gave him 50 grand one

00:35:32.740 time but but let me declared it so it's on record and when people do a freedom of information or

00:35:38.340 whatever they can see it's there then you might actually ask david lammy who's this george brown

00:35:43.860 fella like what was that 50 quid for did he expect anything in return for that at that point david

00:35:48.180 lammy can just shut you down and go well no it's a private thing i don't need to tell you anything

00:35:51.300 about it i don't want to tell you anything about that person or what he might have wanted in return

00:35:54.420 for it i've declared it by the letter of the law that's all i need to do end of story nigel could

00:36:00.340 have done that exact thing with this five million pound if he wanted but he didn't he didn't declare

00:36:05.300 it so all right all right it may just be the tiniest storm in the tiniest of teacups that

00:36:11.780 comes to absolutely nothing it might end with nigel being recalled his seat being recalled

00:36:18.100 and him not being an mp anymore who knows who knows depends what the watchdog inquiry

00:36:26.100 uh decides about it i mean nigel seemed a bit tetchy i see a clip where beth rigby

00:36:33.060 was asking him about it and he got all leggy really quickly really quickly

00:36:37.220 nigel did i didn't really want to he sort of ended the interview basically so just having

00:36:42.820 a general pop at sky news rather than just answering the questions okay

00:36:50.420 margill does get quite eggy quite quickly doesn't he these days

00:36:53.380 it seems something comes up he doesn't like he's just

00:37:01.940 let's be like that and be like really really weak isn't it i think like ed milliband

00:37:06.100 all right the telegraph the daily torograph there's the radiant catherine

00:37:12.900 middleton kate middleton princess of wales looking radiant miller banned to fight

00:37:20.320 streeter for number 10 health secretary expected to resign today and spark grace

00:37:24.040 for top job as starmer refuses to go quietly fair enough starmer to force eu laws on britain

00:37:30.300 with new henry the eighth powers we've talked about that before haven't we on breakfast we

00:37:33.100 Because in the King's Speech yesterday

00:37:35.220 Pretty quickly, just a quick few moments

00:37:37.000 In the King's Speech, he said loads of things

00:37:39.020 He talked about ID cards again

00:37:40.520 He talked about the safety

00:37:43.180 Of our communities

00:37:44.600 The scourge of anti-Semitism

00:37:46.680 He specifically talked about

00:37:49.300 Anti-Semitism, but when it came to Southport

00:37:51.360 He just talked about violence

00:37:53.380 Just general violence

00:37:54.820 He talked about getting closer and closer

00:37:59.500 To the EU

00:38:00.280 Of course these are the government's words

00:38:03.160 Not King Charles' words

00:38:04.440 They write a speech for him

00:38:05.700 And he simply reads it out

00:38:07.040 It's not actually the king's views

00:38:11.300 In any way

00:38:12.240 It really isn't

00:38:13.240 So

00:38:14.960 Alright

00:38:15.700 And the Henry VIII powers

00:38:18.460 So called Henry VIII powers

00:38:20.000 To get through parliament legislation

00:38:23.980 Bringing us closer to Europe

00:38:25.380 Because they would have to do that

00:38:27.720 Because so many of the MPs

00:38:30.280 including some Labour ones would vote against it if they could

00:38:33.400 all right the eye paper I quickly read the blurb and that'll be the last we'll uh we'll talk about

00:38:41.440 it today because it'll be ongoing but this as always the blurb on the front page of the eye

00:38:47.640 paper sort of says everything you need to know street in set to resign and will challenge PM

00:38:51.920 Andy Burnham is uh will also attempt to join the contest after his team identified an MP ready to

00:38:57.740 Stand aside to the iPaper learns.

00:38:59.420 Dun-dun-dun.

00:39:00.080 Who's that?

00:39:01.860 Nobody knows except it's Afzal Khan.

00:39:05.000 It's probably Labour MP in the Greater Manchester area, isn't it?

00:39:10.360 Afzal Khan.

00:39:13.720 He's like a Burnham partisan.

00:39:17.880 A Burnham man.

00:39:19.740 He'll be prepared to pretend there's something wrong with his health

00:39:22.720 or that he just wants to spend more time with his family or something.

00:39:25.840 Trigger a by-election

00:39:27.860 A bit more on the Burnham thing

00:39:29.180 There's not enough time is there

00:39:32.100 Even if that Afzal Khan

00:39:34.680 Stands down today

00:39:36.140 There probably isn't enough time

00:39:39.200 For that by-election to take place

00:39:41.240 Andy Burnham to win it

00:39:43.460 Although there's no guarantee of that

00:39:44.460 And then enter this leadership contest

00:39:48.160 There's not enough time for all of that

00:39:50.020 Unless

00:39:50.900 The NEC

00:39:52.580 The ruling body of the Labour Party

00:39:55.460 put back the actual leadership contest it's been triggered but the final votes we won't

00:40:01.760 do the final votes for like three months four months from now giving burnham enough time to

00:40:07.320 do all of that that could happen that that could that could happen but remember the nec is controlled

00:40:15.260 like there's not that many people in it is there like eight people 12 people in it

00:40:19.340 Including the Prime Minister and everything

00:40:22.780 And they blocked Burnham before, didn't they

00:40:25.780 For the Goulton and Denton thing

00:40:26.860 They came to the conclusion

00:40:28.480 I think there's only one or two people that

00:40:30.740 Didn't do that

00:40:32.660 They nearly all, almost unanimously said

00:40:35.140 Burnham shouldn't stand in Goulton and Denton

00:40:36.800 Some say that the feeling within the NEC

00:40:41.440 Has completely changed now

00:40:42.620 Maybe that's true

00:40:44.060 Other people say no it's not, it's the same

00:40:45.300 It'll be the same thing

00:40:45.900 If the NEC allow him to even stand

00:40:50.620 And if the NEC allow the final leadership contest

00:40:56.500 To take place in three months from now, four months from now

00:40:58.880 Maybe they will, it seems unlikely to me

00:41:02.820 But maybe they will, I don't actually know

00:41:04.180 What's in the minds of those few people

00:41:07.060 You know, Starmer's one of them

00:41:09.620 And one or two Starmer arch loyalists are in there as well

00:41:13.040 They will, you can only imagine, try and block anything like that

00:41:15.680 through the ends of the earth we should see there's so many different ways this thing could

00:41:19.380 break over the coming days and weeks so many different ways so many different things that

00:41:23.280 might play out but okay apparently burnham is going to get one of the guys in in uh well that

00:41:31.120 step down wouldn't it be so funny i would love it love it if they go for that

00:41:41.600 i still can't slip down by election the nec do select burnham and then he loses the by-election

00:41:50.320 that would be so funny for this apart from anything it's not just that he screws labor

00:41:56.660 and it screws andy burnham i don't like andy burnham andy burnham's a douchebag he's an arch

00:42:00.600 blairite he's exactly the sort of person that has ruined this country since 1997 exactly it is him

00:42:08.120 It's people like him

00:42:09.080 A handful of people like him

00:42:10.440 He's a scumbag

00:42:11.640 Socialist

00:42:13.120 Scum

00:42:14.380 It would be so funny

00:42:17.980 Because it would annoy the left

00:42:19.820 At least the soft left

00:42:20.840 Of the Labour Party

00:42:22.280 All their plans ruined

00:42:24.880 It's Burnham or nothing

00:42:26.160 Burnham is the great hope

00:42:28.800 He's going to come and lead us

00:42:30.820 To victory in 2029

00:42:33.100 And he can't even win a seat in Manchester

00:42:36.000 that would be so funny i would love that okay let's carry on waste treating will resign

00:42:43.480 apparently it's just they just will and trigger a leadership challenge to kia starmer as early as

00:42:48.640 today and i say mp intends to fight health secretary in contest it seems like kia starmer

00:42:54.300 is set to do that to do a john major could win it he could he really could burnham tells labor

00:43:03.340 mps he is quote ready to go are you with route back to westminster although faces obstacles yeah

00:43:11.520 quite a few obstacles andy and why are you wearing eyeliner bro i don't think he is i think he's got

00:43:19.540 unnaturally thick eyelashes sort of looks like he's wearing eyeliner doesn't it

00:43:25.200 andy has found a seat it might not be winnable yeah is there a safe labor seat is there any

00:43:32.660 such thing i mean there are a few kind of but

00:43:40.580 it may not be winnable yeah this labor government is highly unpopular isn't it highly highly highly

00:43:47.860 highly unpopular is it is this labor government less popular than the tory government towards the

00:43:55.540 end, during those Rishi years. Possibly, quite possibly. I mean, Starmer's less popular than

00:44:03.680 Rishi Sunak, isn't he? Most unpopular Prime Minister of all time. Quick contest may see

00:44:09.820 Ed Miliband as candidate. If the left of the party can't get Andy, you're like, they're

00:44:17.920 probably going to go for Ed Miliband. Or if the fridge, the absolute unit that is Big

00:44:24.780 bird angela rayner if she can get if she can corral enough mps it'll be ed or ang won't it

00:44:34.700 there's not enough time for burnham he needed to have won that need to have been selected and won

00:44:39.720 that goulton and denton thing then things lined up for him but he didn't so who knows though

00:44:46.580 the labor party might just contrive it to make all that happen maybe feels like a long shot i

00:44:53.840 I wouldn't put money on Andy Burnham at this point.

00:44:56.180 I feel like you're just throwing money away if you bet on him.

00:44:58.480 There's too many obstacles.

00:45:00.260 Okay.

00:45:00.840 Street in the MPM held a 16-minute meeting at number 10

00:45:04.160 to discuss the health secretary's concerns.

00:45:06.540 His concerns.

00:45:08.360 I always think that's funny.

00:45:11.040 Concerns.

00:45:12.960 HR, your boss brings you in and he's firing you.

00:45:15.940 He starts by saying, we have concerns.

00:45:18.940 Some concerns have been raised

00:45:24.220 Yeah, okay

00:45:25.500 Labour centrists fear streeting would lose to a left winger

00:45:32.400 And lead to manifesto being dropped

00:45:34.900 Oh no

00:45:37.840 Labour manifestos might not get carried out

00:45:41.960 Oh no

00:45:42.480 King tells MPs that UK threatened by a quote

00:45:46.360 Dangerous and volatile world

00:45:48.020 at state opening of parliament yeah all right all right mate the financial times let's whip

00:45:55.440 through it then get a few more stories under our belt before we uh start running out the show

00:45:58.640 starmer okay the financial times same same stuff look a bit of nige there a nige and it's five

00:46:03.460 million quid all right the express it's a good paper the same old thing uh they're calling him

00:46:08.440 a zombie kia's a zombie he's already dead he's the living dead finally a move to bring down

00:46:14.720 zombie kia okay and the radiant princess of wales there we go all right the male pure pure slop

00:46:21.040 street into ignite labor day of anarchy it's a day of anarchy all right you get it the star

00:46:26.840 larry the cat larry the downing street cat here we go again he says the cat says

00:46:32.840 downing streeting that's

00:46:36.680 That's unacceptably poor to me

00:46:41.100 If you do a really good bit of wordplay

00:46:44.800 Okay, I'll give you some credit

00:46:46.460 But that is super poor

00:46:48.060 Downing streeting

00:46:49.300 What?

00:46:50.720 What?

00:46:51.940 Who came up with that?

00:46:55.620 The Daily Star bullpen of writers

00:46:58.660 Throwing around ideas

00:47:00.520 Somebody says downing streeting

00:47:07.240 and the power players the editors with the final say decided yeah that's good yeah print that

00:47:17.720 the mirror appears oh the mirror puts nice front and center

00:47:20.520 big old hypno toad there hypno toad not looking happy

00:47:28.440 oh there's a blow if you suffered a blow in your never-ending campaign to contain the real rat

00:47:35.800 to contain actual nativists that actually want to save their country

00:47:39.400 that actually want to try and reduce the number of assaults and sex crimes

00:47:42.760 committed against our women or your campaign to contain all of that

00:47:46.760 has suffered a little bit of a blow is it hypno toad

00:47:51.400 barraging five million pound sleaze probe okay all right there are the front pages there you go

00:47:55.960 there are the front pages

00:47:59.480 all right let's do our poll what did we do on our poll today harry you have to bring it up on

00:48:03.240 on my screen if you don't mind for me sir engage oh i quite liked it yesterday it's just as a

00:48:10.460 palette cleanser something not to do with politics just like two minutes three minutes talking about

00:48:16.420 that it's a little bit of a little bit of a break i quite like that so some people in the chat

00:48:23.020 saying what slop kind of poll is this and other people saying oh i love this poll so can't please

00:48:28.680 everyone i quite like that it was just something else just something completely different

00:48:33.040 So today, although that was really out of left field, wasn't it?

00:48:36.620 Talking about the Turtles.

00:48:38.220 This time at least it's something a bit topical.

00:48:41.040 It's a little bit in the news.

00:48:41.760 We asked you guys,

00:48:43.220 are you excited about the new Christopher Nolan adaptation of The Odyssey?

00:48:47.680 And it's a massive win for the no vote.

00:48:53.200 88% of you.

00:48:55.120 Over 1,200 votes.

00:48:57.120 Knocking up to 1,300 votes.

00:48:59.660 88% of you say no.

00:49:02.040 Yeah, I would be clicking no.

00:49:05.880 4% of you say yes, and 8% of you say a little bit.

00:49:10.500 So even if I count that, what, 12% of you say somewhere between yes and maybe.

00:49:17.660 88%.

00:49:18.180 Stonking wind.

00:49:19.680 If it was a national referendum on something, you'd claim a mandate for all time, wouldn't you?

00:49:24.540 Because, of course, I love the Odyssey.

00:49:28.020 Homer's epic poem, the Odyssey.

00:49:30.640 The Iliad and the Odyssey should be, in my opinion

00:49:33.680 Call me old-fashioned

00:49:35.480 Should be the cornerstone of your education

00:49:41.120 It used to be, that sort of thing, it used to be

00:49:44.200 I'm talking like 17th, 18th, 19th century

00:49:47.460 If you had a first-class education

00:49:49.400 I remember first reading the Iliad and the Odyssey at A-level

00:49:53.900 When I was like 17, 18

00:49:55.820 Gone back and re-read both

00:49:58.380 Listened to them on audiobook as well

00:49:59.920 I mean, the Lotus Eaters is a reference to the Odyssey, isn't it?

00:50:05.120 Odysseus and his men land on the Isle of the Lotus Eaters at one point.

00:50:10.420 Okay, I love the Odyssey. It's great.

00:50:14.120 In meaning to do some long-form content with Stelios about it at some point.

00:50:20.220 We will. We will do that.

00:50:24.580 So to see some of the things coming about this Christopher Nolan film...

00:50:29.920 Mr Nolan has made loads of good films, hasn't he?

00:50:32.640 This looks poor on a number of levels

00:50:38.920 Might even get into it here, could probably talk about it for an hour, probably quite easily

00:50:44.320 Apart from anything else, didn't they race-swap Helen of Troy?

00:50:47.320 Oh, don't worry about it bro, Helen of Troy is a fictional character anyway, who cares if they cast a black woman?

00:50:52.320 She's literally described as like

00:50:57.720 White armed

00:51:00.100 Or something isn't she

00:51:01.080 Depends what the translation is of course

00:51:03.380 There's some rumour

00:51:07.980 I'm not sure if it's 100% confirmed or true

00:51:09.500 But there's some rumour that they cast that

00:51:11.620 Elliot Page as Achilles

00:51:14.160 That would be weird

00:51:17.640 If that's true

00:51:18.420 Elliot Page

00:51:20.540 What was the woman's original name

00:51:22.460 Her dead name

00:51:23.340 Harry

00:51:24.320 What was she called

00:51:25.660 Give me a second

00:51:27.720 Maybe the chat

00:51:29.300 Have I got the chat here

00:51:30.220 Can I see the chat

00:51:31.120 Yeah

00:51:32.480 What was Elliot's page original name

00:51:36.460 Can't even remember now

00:51:38.100 That woman to male

00:51:41.100 Transgender

00:51:42.140 Woman thing

00:51:44.220 Ellen

00:51:47.280 Oh was it just Ellen page

00:51:48.760 Yeah they're all saying Ellen

00:51:50.200 okay so ellen page as achilles if you don't know achilles is supposed to be the the most

00:51:59.740 badass warrior in the world perhaps in the cosmos gods are afraid to fight him

00:52:06.320 giants are afraid to fight him he's supposed to be the just an unparalleled warrior when it comes

00:52:14.960 swordplay throwing your spear whatever it's supposed to be the most badass man in the on the planet

00:52:23.280 you're gonna cast elliot page ellen page

00:52:30.240 really

00:52:35.120 really

00:52:35.520 Elliot Page looks like

00:52:40.900 If you can be kind enough to say

00:52:45.380 She looks like a man in any way

00:52:47.640 A male in any way

00:52:48.840 Very very diminutive

00:52:50.960 You can't change the shape of your skull

00:52:53.960 And chin and neck can you

00:52:55.800 She doesn't look male in any way

00:52:58.500 But it's the kindest possible thing

00:53:00.820 She looks like a prepubescent boy

00:53:02.420 Doesn't she

00:53:05.520 Not Achilles.

00:53:08.080 I mean, Brad Pitt was Achilles in that film Troy.

00:53:11.920 For me, they should have cast someone much better.

00:53:14.440 They should have cast, like, Big Dave Bautista or something.

00:53:17.840 Should have cast a true, someone who's, like, a hulking mess.

00:53:22.120 Like a physically intimidating person.

00:53:24.800 Like John Cena or something, I don't know.

00:53:26.300 Brock Lesnar, something like that.

00:53:27.480 They're not good actors, but you get the point.

00:53:29.600 Not Ellen Page.

00:53:32.480 Ellen Page is Achilles.

00:53:35.520 yeah all right no wonder 80 it should stick down 87% of you say no

00:53:40.320 not looking forward to it yeah I won't go to the cinema to see it

00:53:43.820 eventually once it's on TV and I'm clicking around one evening and it's on

00:53:47.560 I'll be like okay go on then I'll watch it okay

00:53:50.160 or I might watch a really long review by like Critical Drinker or something

00:53:54.660 or Nerdrotic one of those guys maybe Mr. H

00:53:58.820 don't make me watch it Nate

00:54:01.600 don't make me watch it

00:54:04.580 Eventually when it's on TV

00:54:07.300 I'll give it a whirl

00:54:08.020 Alright

00:54:08.460 That's as far as I'm prepared to go

00:54:09.720 But I completely agree with you there

00:54:11.280 Me and the Glorious Band

00:54:12.680 The Chosen Few

00:54:13.220 On the same page on that one

00:54:14.560 Just for another one

00:54:16.600 You've been deliberately subversive

00:54:17.900 Why are you doing that?

00:54:19.840 Why are you trying to

00:54:20.500 Like ruin a piece

00:54:21.380 Of our western heritage?

00:54:24.100 Why are you doing that?

00:54:27.400 Who's told you to do that?

00:54:31.480 And for what purpose ultimately?

00:54:34.160 Alright

00:54:34.480 It's already 5-2

00:54:37.540 The only other big main story today

00:54:40.900 Is that Donald is in China

00:54:43.660 Meeting Winnie the Pooh, isn't he?

00:54:46.780 It was all very cordial between them

00:54:48.480 When he first got there

00:54:50.960 One thing that was quite interesting

00:54:54.200 I thought is

00:54:54.920 I'll just mention this

00:54:56.600 Before we go on to this day in history

00:54:58.160 Xi greets Trump with ominous warning

00:55:00.880 About risk of war between US and China

00:55:03.240 He's supposed to have said

00:55:05.420 Winnie the Pooh is supposed to have said

00:55:06.540 Beware the Thucydides trap

00:55:09.180 Interesting

00:55:11.360 Anyone who doesn't know

00:55:13.820 Thucydides was an ancient Greek

00:55:16.560 Classical Greek historian

00:55:17.980 Who wrote about the Peloponnesian War

00:55:19.960 That is the 30 odd year

00:55:22.300 30 year long odd war

00:55:25.200 Between Athens and Sparta

00:55:27.200 In

00:55:28.620 What the 5th century BC

00:55:31.120 The world's too

00:55:32.420 The Grecian world's two superpowers

00:55:36.720 Athens and Sparta

00:55:37.660 For no particularly good reason

00:55:41.520 Other than sort of suspicion for each other

00:55:44.000 And both thinking that somewhere down the line

00:55:46.780 The other one's going to preemptively attack me

00:55:48.320 So I better attack him first

00:55:49.360 That sort of thing

00:55:50.220 And ultimately ruined both

00:55:53.660 I mean Sparta in the end wins the Peloponnesian War

00:55:56.300 But it fatally wounds Sparta

00:55:58.960 In various ways

00:56:00.920 The idea, Thucydides and the Peloponnesian War

00:56:04.940 The idea that you've got two superpowers

00:56:07.080 That needn't go to war with each other

00:56:08.860 Did

00:56:10.120 A bit surprised that Winnie the Pooh

00:56:14.440 Decided to reference Thucydides there

00:56:17.160 I doubt

00:56:18.460 I doubt Trump has read Thucydides

00:56:20.980 He might have done

00:56:22.600 He might have done

00:56:23.880 I doubt he knows anything about the Peloponnesian War

00:56:27.320 Trump

00:56:28.320 He might do

00:56:29.880 Might do, maybe I'm being just unkind there

00:56:32.500 Maybe I'm being a

00:56:33.380 Maybe I'm being a snob

00:56:35.740 Alright

00:56:37.300 Should we have a look on this day in history

00:56:39.880 It's very nearly 9am, should we have a look at

00:56:41.880 On this day in history, what happened

00:56:43.360 Down through the centuries, what happened of note

00:56:45.740 On the 14th of May

00:56:46.580 Alright, the Constitution of the United States

00:56:49.560 On this day in 1789, delegates gather in Philadelphia

00:56:52.180 To draw up the Constitution of the United States

00:56:54.620 I'm Anglo-American, aren't I?

00:56:57.420 My dad

00:56:58.160 is an american he didn't come over here until the 1970s born and raised in oregon go ducks

00:57:03.840 didn't come over here until the 70s i was born in 1981 got loads of cousins

00:57:10.640 a few uncles loads of cousins in the united states one of my ancestors francis langhorn dade

00:57:18.880 is the major francis langhorn dade who got all his men killed by indians in florida

00:57:27.600 and now dade county the dade county in florida is named after one of my ancestors

00:57:33.920 so i'm anglo-american okay all right i happen to think that the constitution of the united

00:57:41.520 states is a truly remarkable document truly remarkable thing a lot of english people

00:57:46.480 wouldn't say that i think it is largely penned by what was um jefferson franklin a bit of john

00:57:53.920 Adams was in Madison was involved

00:57:55.640 I think it's a remarkable

00:57:57.780 thing

00:57:58.180 I really do

00:58:00.480 that a republic like the

00:58:03.780 United States has been as

00:58:05.460 incredibly successful

00:58:07.900 as it has been since the late

00:58:09.680 18th century

00:58:10.360 remarkably successful for a republic

00:58:13.960 like a history

00:58:17.720 record breaking

00:58:19.480 example of how a republic

00:58:21.780 can work

00:58:22.660 A lot of it's to do with the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, of course

00:58:27.780 There you go, I've got long-form content all about Washington

00:58:33.420 All about Jefferson

00:58:34.580 I will get round to doing one on John Adams

00:58:38.080 And Madison, probably, at some point

00:58:42.060 Okay, the Constitution

00:58:44.280 Good stuff

00:58:45.880 On this day in 1796, English country doctor Edward Jenner

00:58:50.320 McMinster's his revolutionary cowpox-based vaccine

00:58:54.400 For smallpox in Berkeley, Gloucestershire

00:58:56.460 Yeah, great stuff

00:58:58.260 Great stuff again, I said before, didn't I?

00:59:00.820 The pox, various types of pox

00:59:02.960 Have been a blight on humanity since day one

00:59:06.000 God knows how many millions of people

00:59:10.400 Have died in misery and pain

00:59:12.900 How many families ruined by the pox

00:59:15.740 Thank God we don't live in a world

00:59:19.860 Where that's a thing now

00:59:20.940 Like your kid at some point

00:59:23.940 Will get the pox

00:59:24.680 And there's a decent chance

00:59:25.560 It kills them

00:59:26.160 Just hope it doesn't

00:59:27.860 Hope it doesn't

00:59:28.720 Scar their face

00:59:29.720 For the rest of their life

00:59:30.640 Hideously

00:59:31.560 You go through life

00:59:33.600 You're basically

00:59:34.000 Completely fine

00:59:34.780 Healthy

00:59:35.220 You get the pox

00:59:36.480 And you die

00:59:37.180 We don't live in that world

00:59:39.520 Is an incredible thing

00:59:40.580 Thank you Dr. Jenner

00:59:42.520 Thank you

00:59:43.880 On this day in 1804

00:59:46.440 Lois and Clark

00:59:48.200 Meriwether Lewis

00:59:48.980 lewis and uh william clark's expedition sets out from st louis for the pacific coast commissioned

00:59:58.900 by thomas jefferson in the lewis and clark expedition out west thinking about heading

01:00:04.900 out california way yes the great i always find it interesting to remember how recently in history

01:00:14.660 The United States properly, formally, legally

01:00:17.620 Extended all the way to the West Coast

01:00:20.080 To the Pacific Ocean

01:00:21.120 You might think, oh, some people

01:00:23.760 I do think, often I feel

01:00:25.240 That the United States from

01:00:27.040 From 1776

01:00:29.360 Is, stretches out to the West Coast

01:00:32.220 No, no, no

01:00:34.480 Not even close

01:00:35.640 Look, 1804, during the presidency of Thomas Jefferson

01:00:38.500 They're still sending

01:00:40.340 One of the first expeditions

01:00:42.160 Out to the West Coast

01:00:43.220 Lewis and Clark wasn't the first one by a long stretch

01:00:46.800 But still

01:00:48.320 I mean Spaniards were going there centuries ago

01:00:51.060 Drake sails up the west coast of America

01:00:53.760 In the 16th century

01:00:55.680 But nonetheless

01:00:57.760 Still you've had the Louisiana Purchase

01:01:00.700 And still the west is more or less

01:01:02.380 Not exactly uncharted

01:01:04.000 But it's not formally claimed by the United States

01:01:07.180 Or anything like that

01:01:08.180 Fascinating, interesting to me

01:01:11.660 okay on this day in 1853 land surveyor newspaper publisher and inventor

01:01:16.540 gail borden patents his process for condensed milk i know nothing i don't know i don't know

01:01:21.820 any real details about that i'm afraid one of the few times where this uh on this day in history.com

01:01:27.660 was out history broad me fair enough that's quite obscure though isn't it who really cares about the

01:01:33.420 history of condensed milk really i'm interested in things like very obscure really rotation in

01:01:41.020 the 13th century but condensed milk even I am not interested in that all right on this day 1948

01:01:48.120 David Ben-Gurion declares Israeli independence from British administration and Golda Meir one

01:01:53.560 of the later Prime Ministers is one of the signatures good stuff good for you good good

01:01:58.320 good all right on this day in 1955 Warsaw Pact is signed by the Soviet Union Albania Bulgaria

01:02:04.000 Czechoslovakia East Germany Hungary Poland and Romania that's interesting today isn't it in

01:02:08.700 1955, the Warsaw Pact. Again, you might think you could probably be forgiven for thinking

01:02:15.260 that the Warsaw Pact was something that came into existence very soon after the war. That's

01:02:21.840 post-Stalin, isn't it, 1955? Stalin dies in, what, 52, 53? He's certainly dead by 55,

01:02:27.400 isn't he? You would have thought that the Warsaw Pact might have begun in the autumn

01:02:34.280 of 1945 or some point you know maybe like we talked about the Munich airlift the other day

01:02:40.960 didn't we sometime during Stalin's reign no it's as late as 1955 interesting to note all right and

01:02:49.220 on this day in 2024 Google unveils new generative AI feature at its annual conference forcing users

01:02:56.840 to view AI overviews at the top of search results despite then being factually incorrect 60% of the

01:03:03.380 time never rely on an ai search don't rely on it just do some reading of your own a bit

01:03:12.980 you can just use google in the normal fashion click around from a few websites have a look

01:03:17.840 at who's written the thing don't just rely don't just go at grok is this true don't do that chat

01:03:26.360 gbt what is this right or wrong it's wrong loads i i don't use it i really don't i really really

01:03:36.460 don't use it it's wrong loads of one example one class just one classic example classic example

01:03:42.320 not too long ago on twitter someone put up an image of alan rickman from robin hood prince of

01:03:50.420 thieves and someone else goes at grok who's that they should probably know how do you not know

01:03:55.520 alan rickman how do you not know prince of thieves um and grok just gave the wrong answer just said

01:04:00.340 someone else people like no try again and it tried like five six seven times and in the end it said

01:04:08.040 oh you tell me then i don't know it's like it's a really famous film really really famous actor

01:04:14.200 how do you not how does your your your programming your algorithm whatever it is your your mod your

01:04:21.000 language model and you've got access to more or less everything how can you not figure that out

01:04:25.500 It's Alan Rickman from Prince of Thieves, bro

01:04:29.080 I've seen it just factually get things wrong loads, loads

01:04:33.500 And then when you really press it, it was like

01:04:36.760 Oh yeah, no, sorry, I got that wrong

01:04:38.800 Or I made it up

01:04:39.680 I thought that's what you wanted to hear

01:04:41.880 I thought that was right, but I was wrong, sorry

01:04:43.540 Like, don't

01:04:44.600 It's only a large language model and it's completely fallible

01:04:48.780 Completely and utterly fallible

01:04:51.060 It's really annoying on Twitter when people ask Grok something

01:04:55.100 it proves their point it's wrong but then they start gloating that that's the end of the story

01:05:00.500 that's it's a slam dunk that's the end of the discussion oh my god oh my god yeah i did a tweet

01:05:07.880 just last night i've said a number of times i would john connor the hell out of all ai i'll

01:05:13.360 destroy it i'd have a world without it it's going to be a detriment to our civilization and humanity

01:05:20.140 My opinion

01:05:21.400 I would John Connor it to hell

01:05:26.860 Having said that

01:05:30.740 It's certainly going to have a few

01:05:33.380 Good things about it

01:05:35.760 If it helps medical research

01:05:38.780 For example

01:05:39.300 Then good

01:05:43.740 In some very limited senses

01:05:46.620 Use it to map the stars

01:05:48.540 More efficiently or something like that

01:05:50.140 Use it to translate all cuneiform or something

01:05:53.140 Maybe, okay

01:05:53.920 Maybe I want John Connor it 100%

01:05:57.060 Off the face of the earth

01:05:58.260 There's people using it all the time

01:06:02.360 To get their knowledge, to get their facts from

01:06:04.760 Ridiculous, terrible

01:06:06.840 Alright, shall we have a look at our

01:06:10.300 Rumble Rants and Super Chats

01:06:11.420 Shall we do that

01:06:12.140 Last few minutes of the show

01:06:14.340 Alright, Rumble Rants

01:06:17.120 Global Church History Unit number one there

01:06:19.920 What's he done?

01:06:21.360 Just gone half past six in the morning

01:06:22.700 He wants his belt back

01:06:25.520 He wants the title

01:06:27.460 And new

01:06:30.440 Yesterday someone called Jetlag

01:06:32.060 Nicked the belt off of him

01:06:33.600 Nicked the title

01:06:34.360 Hipped him to the post

01:06:35.860 He's got it back

01:06:38.320 Global Church History

01:06:39.640 And new

01:06:41.200 The two time

01:06:42.960 Global Church History says

01:06:45.640 Today in 8.41 AD

01:06:49.360 it would be the vikings under askier begin their seine raids the river seine it's interesting

01:06:58.700 yep yep very interesting because of course the normans were scandinavian they were vikings

01:07:05.100 essentially weren't they a little bit after that you've got king rollo it's also a 70s 60s or 70s

01:07:11.920 cartoon called king rollo isn't there really quaint really nice of mr ben oh cartoon king rollo

01:07:19.140 Love it

01:07:20.260 The real King Rollo

01:07:21.440 Was a badass Viking marauder

01:07:24.160 He'd rape and pillage

01:07:26.040 And all sorts of stuff

01:07:26.740 The real King Rollo

01:07:27.600 Anyway

01:07:28.460 He's the descendant of the Normans

01:07:30.360 Like King Rollo's

01:07:31.580 A descendant of

01:07:33.040 Or rather

01:07:33.900 William the Conqueror

01:07:35.020 Is a descendant of Rollo

01:07:36.060 But the Vikings

01:07:37.540 Yeah

01:07:37.960 Pillaging all the

01:07:40.320 All the coast of where

01:07:41.640 Modern day Holland and Belgium is

01:07:42.960 Of course

01:07:44.780 Yeah makes sense doesn't it

01:07:45.800 And then down the river Seine

01:07:47.360 To Paris

01:07:47.960 they sacked paris at one point didn't they i believe as early as 841 they were doing that

01:07:55.440 so it's before there's a france really right that's in sort of the mirror

01:08:00.660 carolingian merovingian age uh uh that'll be after charlemagne though won't it

01:08:08.120 it's after charlemagne still that part of the land was um they were frankish not truly

01:08:16.480 Truly French

01:08:17.800 It's a bit complicated

01:08:18.540 In the

01:08:18.940 When you use

01:08:19.980 Stop saying Frankish

01:08:21.660 And start saying France

01:08:22.440 But

01:08:22.680 They're like Frankish kings

01:08:24.140 Really aren't they

01:08:24.820 That bit of the land

01:08:26.500 That becomes Normandy

01:08:27.560 Was called

01:08:28.840 Neustria

01:08:30.000 This is all off the top of my head

01:08:31.200 It was like Neustria

01:08:32.500 Frankish king

01:08:33.280 You don't have Neustria

01:08:33.860 Vikings take it over

01:08:35.660 Turn it into Normandy

01:08:36.480 Start speaking French

01:08:38.060 Start becoming Christian

01:08:39.000 Start giving themselves

01:08:40.140 Names like William

01:08:41.000 And Richard

01:08:42.480 Rather than

01:08:44.000 Askear

01:08:46.480 Interesting, fascinating stuff though, fascinating stuff

01:08:48.440 Then you also say, on this day in 1608

01:08:51.760 The Protestant Union was founded

01:08:54.240 Uh, Allhausen

01:08:55.760 Yeah, it was a moment in time, wasn't it?

01:08:57.800 We're in the middle of the wars of religion in Europe at that point

01:08:59.880 Well, not in the middle, near the beginning-ish

01:09:01.720 There's wars for the heart and soul of Germany

01:09:07.420 Well, all of Europe, but Germany really

01:09:08.920 The Protestant Union, it didn't last all that long, did it?

01:09:11.940 That Protestant Union

01:09:12.940 It was one of the Holy Roman Emperors

01:09:15.600 Gone back to Catholicism

01:09:18.440 Well never left formally

01:09:19.800 But it's complicated

01:09:20.900 God that's a really complicated part of history

01:09:22.300 That is global church history

01:09:23.800 That's a labyrinth of history stuff there

01:09:27.400 To even begin to unpick all of that

01:09:29.200 So one of the Holy Roman emperors

01:09:31.420 Dialed Catholicism up a bit more

01:09:34.360 And as a response to that

01:09:36.120 You've got the Protestant Union

01:09:38.420 Both Lutheran and Calvinist

01:09:43.340 to begin to talk about that bit of history you can only scratch the surface

01:09:52.240 otherwise i'd need to sit here and talk for two hours

01:09:54.880 all right interesting though of course and the the second and only other rumble rant this morning is

01:10:02.720 from kaleb knight who says the odyssey musical by some guy on internet is already a better

01:10:10.200 adaptation the nolans oh i didn't know there was a a musical even just an internet one of the

01:10:18.360 odyssey that's all right i'd watch it there's been loads of adaptations of the odyssey over the years

01:10:23.400 none of them are brilliant in my opinion um but maybe i'll google that have a look at that

01:10:29.280 yeah this thing with matt damon doesn't look good i know it's like a history nerds thing to say but

01:10:37.200 like like a fedora wearing actually point but like it looks like from the small amounts i've

01:10:44.860 seen in the trailers bits and bobs the the costumes are all wrong just for start just that

01:10:52.080 they're all wrong some tiny little clips i've seen um the dialogue sounds dumb

01:10:59.340 all right they're the only two rumble rants we've got this morning what about the youtube

01:11:08.740 super chats harry engage there are okay great what have we got oh god there's a fair few

01:11:16.920 more than a dozen let's whip through them a bit we've got ac1d helm says on this day world war

01:11:26.400 To RAF bomb Jerry

01:11:28.340 For the first time

01:11:29.140 Oh is that right

01:11:29.640 That's interesting

01:11:30.200 For the very first time

01:11:31.460 It would be

01:11:35.380 It would be 1940 right

01:11:37.820 Because 1939 is

01:11:39.560 The war hasn't started yet

01:11:40.740 So okay

01:11:41.440 That's interesting

01:11:42.520 That is interesting

01:11:43.280 To say isn't it

01:11:43.720 That that far into the war

01:11:45.080 Mid May 1940

01:11:49.680 The war starts in September

01:11:52.460 39

01:11:53.460 And months and months

01:11:55.700 of months go by, before Churchill and Bomber Harris decide to actually bomb the Germans

01:12:05.660 for the first time, alright, that's interesting, something wickedly, superfan Shona says,

01:12:13.940 Kate wears what she's told will be a burka next, I don't know, maybe, or not a burka,

01:12:22.480 I doubt it. I don't know if she does wear what she's told. Maybe she does. I would have thought

01:12:26.560 she'd certainly have stylists. There's no question about that. I thought that pantsuit

01:12:35.160 looked all right. Nothing wrong with a little bit of flares on a lady. She carried it off,

01:12:42.440 didn't she? She pulled it off, that look, I thought. When you've got bone structure like

01:12:49.500 katherine middleton it's difficult to look bad i've got to stop simping

01:12:55.340 just to be clear my simping for kate middleton is ironic it is tongue in cheek i mean she's

01:12:59.980 a pretty lady i'm not questioning that but all right stop simping for for kate got it

01:13:07.580 shown also says it says phone a taxi phone a taxi say you have a dog no m driver

01:13:19.500 You know what she's saying there, Harry?

01:13:22.560 Did you get that?

01:13:24.020 Phone a taxi, say you have a dog, no M driver.

01:13:26.980 What's M driver?

01:13:28.260 Sorry, I don't know.

01:13:30.460 I'm sorry, maybe it's really obvious what you're saying there.

01:13:32.340 I don't get it.

01:13:33.940 No M driver.

01:13:36.500 Fortean Barber says, thanks anyway.

01:13:39.860 Fortean Barber says, morning, Bob, all right?

01:13:42.180 Yeah, I'm all right, mate.

01:13:43.380 You're all right.

01:13:44.200 I hope you are.

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01:14:21.500 Shona said, Ed, Ange and Andy, threesome madder than just two.

01:14:27.100 Don't, please.

01:14:30.480 Please.

01:14:34.320 I haven't had any breakfast yet.

01:14:35.720 My stomach's empty.

01:14:36.440 That's not going to...

01:14:37.380 Okay.

01:14:40.440 Shona again said, my mood is not honest.

01:14:43.620 Takiyah.

01:14:46.080 Yeah.

01:14:47.640 Takiya, Takiya, however you pronounce that

01:14:49.300 That Muslim tactic of pretending

01:14:54.520 Of pretending you're not like a hard, hardline Islamist

01:14:58.940 In order to infiltrate your enemies better, more efficiently

01:15:02.180 Yeah

01:15:05.400 Okay, BruteLife2314 says

01:15:12.120 At least all the people running for PM this week are British

01:15:15.880 more right wing than the tories loving the content bow i love bbc thank you sir

01:15:22.700 thank you brute life appreciate that and you're right yeah yeah you're right

01:15:27.100 yeah thanks that cheers appreciate it appreciate it bill wilson 1225 says

01:15:35.140 why does lammy not simply eat the other contenders right why not we're stopping him

01:15:45.880 Two more from Shona say

01:15:49.560 Go back to folk

01:15:53.740 Who don't need the money as MPs

01:15:55.800 Okay

01:15:58.560 And the other one is

01:16:00.100 Rent boys was a schlieffen plan

01:16:04.320 We'll have to find out what's going on with that

01:16:12.780 Surely

01:16:13.140 Well not surely

01:16:13.980 I was going to say

01:16:14.700 I was going to say

01:16:15.380 Surely they can't

01:16:16.820 They can't have put a full blown

01:16:18.200 D notice on it

01:16:20.260 D order

01:16:20.760 I always forget what the actual phrasing is

01:16:22.920 When

01:16:23.540 You're legally not allowed to report on it

01:16:26.000 Is it that sensitive?

01:16:28.700 Is it really?

01:16:30.640 Doesn't seem right

01:16:31.600 But that is a Schlieffen plan

01:16:34.280 A giant left hook from our enemies

01:16:37.700 A giant left hook from Ukraine

01:16:43.000 to burn down Keir Starmer's car

01:16:46.980 okay

01:16:48.280 noble Johnny Calley says

01:16:51.640 morning Bo

01:16:52.400 have you heard of James of Queensbury

01:16:57.500 he had become famous

01:17:00.280 as the cannibalistic idiot

01:17:03.080 after an incident in 1707

01:17:05.040 James was left alone in his cell

01:17:07.780 at Holyrood Palace by guards

01:17:09.900 That only vaguely rings a bell for me

01:17:14.320 It does ring a bell

01:17:15.040 But I can't know if I

01:17:16.220 Cannibalistic idiot

01:17:19.140 Did he meet

01:17:20.520 I can't remember

01:17:23.360 It sounds really interesting though

01:17:25.780 I'll look it up

01:17:28.000 That's exactly the sort of thing I'd like to spend

01:17:29.720 I would spend my little bit of spare time

01:17:32.540 I'm going to quick read about that

01:17:34.360 Okay

01:17:37.560 Shona again says

01:17:39.880 I never declare any five mil I get

01:17:42.480 Yeah

01:17:42.700 Yeah put it straight in the Swiss bank account

01:17:45.780 Straight in the Caymans

01:17:47.080 Every time I get given five million quid

01:17:51.360 That's what I do

01:17:51.980 Yeah

01:17:55.100 Okay

01:17:57.060 Noble Johnny Calley again says

01:17:58.480 James escaped

01:17:59.420 This is James of Queensbury again

01:18:01.660 The cannibalistic idiot

01:18:02.660 I saw you talking about

01:18:04.440 James escaped

01:18:05.480 And went into the kitchen

01:18:06.920 Where he found a cook's boy

01:18:08.260 Turning a spit

01:18:09.840 He seized and killed the boy

01:18:11.540 Then he impaled him on the spit

01:18:13.220 And roasted him before the fire

01:18:14.740 That does ring some sort of bell with me

01:18:17.760 But

01:18:17.960 Well okay

01:18:20.060 History is filled with such crazy things isn't it

01:18:23.080 If it's even true

01:18:24.120 Imagine doing that though

01:18:26.980 And then ate him

01:18:33.600 Interesting

01:18:33.960 I will google that later

01:18:34.920 I will google that later

01:18:35.980 Okay

01:18:36.780 Mr Molotov

01:18:37.880 Super fan

01:18:38.460 Funny on Twitter

01:18:39.740 he says off-topic question uh which was more based first roman triumvirate or second huh

01:18:46.900 which is more based this is a classic history nerds fan uh history history nerd question

01:18:55.260 right well so the first triumvirate what is that that's um that's crassus caesar and pompey isn't

01:19:01.280 it pretty based pretty based and what the second triumvirate's octavian augustus mark anthony and

01:19:09.180 Lepidus

01:19:10.940 I feel like the first

01:19:13.680 Traumvirate is more based

01:19:14.600 whatever that means in ancient

01:19:17.680 Roman history

01:19:18.260 I'm going to say first Traumvirate

01:19:21.520 I don't think

01:19:23.440 Antony is particularly based

01:19:25.380 maybe you could make the argument

01:19:27.240 it's a bit of a degenerate

01:19:29.280 if you

01:19:31.600 believe the anti

01:19:32.480 Mark Antony propaganda

01:19:35.580 I'm going to say the first Traumvirate

01:19:38.780 Okay, again, could break that down, make a two-hour piece of content talking about that.

01:19:43.760 Good question.

01:19:45.160 Thank you.

01:19:47.060 Our Rob or Ross says, in Burnham's potential seat, the Greens won every ward last week

01:19:54.200 and would likely win the by-election.

01:19:55.600 Yeah, good point.

01:19:56.320 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:19:57.060 So in that seat, Afsal Khan, yeah, the Greens swept up at the local election.

01:20:02.280 Very good point.

01:20:02.740 Should have said that in the main show.

01:20:03.980 Very good point.

01:20:04.440 Thank you.

01:20:04.720 And yeah, if you extrapolate that out to

01:20:07.820 If there was a by-election for the parliamentary seat there

01:20:11.320 Which isn't necessarily the case at all

01:20:14.460 But if you did do that

01:20:15.620 Yeah, the Greens would win it easily

01:20:17.460 Easily

01:20:19.720 So is that a quote-unquote safe seat for Burnham?

01:20:26.040 No, not at all, not really

01:20:27.820 And you can only imagine because of those local election results

01:20:32.540 Greens would try really hard there to scupper Burnham.

01:20:38.200 That would be so funny.

01:20:39.720 That would be so funny if Burnham was allowed to run for a by-election and lost.

01:20:46.340 Oh, my giddy aunt.

01:20:50.620 I might actually buy a bottle of champagne.

01:20:54.220 Genuinely, really.

01:20:56.560 And crack it open.

01:20:57.560 that would be hilarious okay uh shona again says somali pirate appointed boulders are for the win

01:21:08.500 what here boulders are here in america okay um kick you in the throat that's their name

01:21:19.680 at kick you in the throat says fun fact england is roughly the size of alabama with rough roughly

01:21:26.220 20% more coastline

01:21:27.880 That's interesting, yeah

01:21:29.140 In Britain, the isles

01:21:32.640 Of Great Britain

01:21:33.960 It's not that big

01:21:35.720 It's not that big

01:21:37.920 You're only ever something like 70 or 80 odd miles

01:21:40.600 From the coast, you go to the very very heart

01:21:42.380 Of England, geographically

01:21:44.040 As the crow flyers, the furthest away

01:21:46.420 From the sea, and you're still only something like

01:21:48.020 70 or 80 odd miles from the sea

01:21:49.940 At any given moment

01:21:50.660 It's not a very big island, really

01:21:53.280 In the scheme of things

01:21:55.040 One of the highest population densities in the world

01:22:00.360 We've got a little bit of Greenbelt left

01:22:04.160 A little bit of open countryside and stuff

01:22:07.840 A few moors

01:22:08.720 But if we're not careful it will turn into Coruscant

01:22:12.880 The whole island is one big city and suburb

01:22:17.440 I can see in a few centuries time that's the case

01:22:20.820 The whole of this island is one big city

01:22:23.940 I don't want that

01:22:27.060 I don't want that

01:22:28.520 I don't want my country flooded with people

01:22:31.320 Why should we?

01:22:34.700 Why should we?

01:22:38.100 Okay

01:22:38.400 Tatum2733 says

01:22:42.820 Who would you prefer?

01:22:45.140 Low MP or Bodicea as Queen?

01:22:51.160 Okay

01:22:53.940 Do you think I've got long-form content about Rome and Britain?

01:22:58.760 On Bode's Epochs, my history-themed show behind the paywall.

01:23:02.880 Do you consider joining for those £5 a month,

01:23:04.820 Bronze Team Membership, lotuses.com.

01:23:06.900 Hundreds and hundreds of hours of history-themed content,

01:23:08.860 me talking about history.

01:23:09.680 Do you reckon there's a few videos there,

01:23:10.920 more than one, of me talking about Rome and Britain?

01:23:15.700 What do you reckon?

01:23:16.940 Yeah? No?

01:23:18.760 Well, yes, yes, there is, yeah.

01:23:20.200 Talk all about

01:23:22.940 Boudiccia's revolt

01:23:25.220 I pronounce it Boudiccia

01:23:26.340 I've got no truck with all this Boudicca nonsense

01:23:29.520 Oh no, I was raised

01:23:31.360 It's Boudiccia

01:23:32.200 Boudicca

01:23:34.700 Queen Boudiccia

01:23:36.920 Her or Rupert Lowe

01:23:38.980 Well her, she was a total badass

01:23:40.760 She was pretty much a complete badass

01:23:43.780 Not that I haven't got

01:23:49.360 full confidence in Rupert Lowe's

01:23:51.540 sort of political

01:23:52.420 stamina, his will.

01:23:56.780 But I feel like

01:23:57.980 Bodicea would get

01:23:59.520 S done

01:24:00.300 real quick.

01:24:04.260 Yeah, sorry, I go for that.

01:24:07.080 Bodicea's not mucking about.

01:24:08.140 She's playing for keeps.

01:24:13.100 Okay.

01:24:14.280 Another one from Shona.

01:24:16.720 Oliver Reed

01:24:17.600 has Achilles.

01:24:19.360 Fight him in his day

01:24:22.520 Oliver Reed is Achilles

01:24:24.740 I don't know if you're just suggesting that

01:24:27.920 Or whether he did at some point play Achilles

01:24:29.780 In some old 60s or 70s thing

01:24:32.960 I've not seen that one if he did

01:24:35.020 Could work

01:24:37.960 A young Oliver Reed was

01:24:39.500 Could be reasonably intimidating, couldn't he?

01:24:44.460 I would want some giant hulking dude

01:24:47.300 like super super buff and ripped but a good actor is there such a thing is there such a thing as uh

01:24:55.780 well i was gonna say arnie like a young arnie but arnie was never a great actor was he

01:25:01.140 really really great but back in his day someone like arnie that would work

01:25:06.980 someone like slyre stallone circa rambo 2 era that's what you want sly when he was at his

01:25:13.780 biggest when his neck came straight out from the bottom of his ears rambo 2 rambo 3 era sly

01:25:21.460 that's what it should be not ellen page ellen page ridiculous ridiculous thing all right

01:25:32.420 barton bella says uh lewis unsolved life deletion mystery

01:25:39.380 is is fascinating lewis unsolved life deletion mystery is fascinating i don't know what

01:25:48.500 i'm sorry i don't know you've lost me there i'm afraid lewis unsolved i'm sorry i don't get it

01:25:55.220 sorry thanks for the super chat though okay whenever i don't get these i sort of feel like

01:26:01.200 it's kind of obvious what you're saying and i'm just being dumb but okay for all two three one

01:26:06.880 says can you accept cyclops witches and sea monsters but you don't accept a 2021 bmw 5 series

01:26:15.760 50 uh 530i with optional heated seating why are you so bigoted

01:26:23.560 that's tickled me

01:26:32.680 a 2021 bmw 5 series

01:26:38.800 why am i finding that so funny

01:26:42.620 so specific i think because it's so specific

01:26:47.980 right np npc

01:26:53.560 bs 3pm says what would happen if the right wing of the uk while in power uh pushed the king to

01:27:02.020 make the king's speech his own i am not joking what so the right imagine that some sort of

01:27:09.620 right-wing party got in and then said to king charles you write your own speech use your own

01:27:13.500 words whatever you say we as your government will just do any of it it's not a good idea

01:27:21.440 i don't want that you're saying what would happen if i mean well it would be a disaster because he's

01:27:28.120 a moron he's a crazy globalist sort of traitorous crypto lefty moron king charles sausage fingers

01:27:36.160 it's like cobo guther we don't want to do that in bows britain if i somehow magically found myself

01:27:41.980 lord protector there was still a king let's say sorry not lord protector there was still a king

01:27:45.760 and i was just prime minister with a massive majority i wouldn't do anything like that

01:27:50.000 I might even pass some legislation to curtail the king further, the monarch further

01:27:55.720 Muzzle them further

01:27:59.080 I don't really want you speaking about anything political or anything really at all

01:28:03.440 Sit in your palace and be willed out when we will you out

01:28:08.100 And say what we tell you to say

01:28:09.380 I don't want to hear about environmentalism from you

01:28:13.300 I don't want to hear about it

01:28:15.120 I don't want to hear about equality and stuff

01:28:20.180 From the king

01:28:20.900 Just pipe down and be quiet

01:28:23.400 And when we need you to read a speech

01:28:26.220 Our words, you can do that

01:28:27.840 Otherwise, shtum

01:28:29.180 That's my

01:28:31.320 That's my feeling on it

01:28:33.720 Okay, and the last one

01:28:36.980 Is this the last one?

01:28:37.800 Yep, okay, last one

01:28:38.880 From Noble Johnny Caddy again

01:28:41.080 Says

01:28:41.360 Yes, Bo, it is true

01:28:43.640 I learned of an old historical happenstance

01:28:46.420 While reading Douglas Murray's

01:28:48.080 Bosie

01:28:49.400 The Tragic Life of Lord Alfred Douglas

01:28:52.260 I don't know exactly what you're agreeing with me

01:28:55.940 That it is true

01:28:56.720 But

01:28:58.520 Bosie

01:29:00.240 Is that

01:29:00.720 The Tragic Life of Lord Alfred Douglas

01:29:03.900 Was that

01:29:04.960 The lover

01:29:09.840 The gay lover of

01:29:11.040 Oscar Wilde

01:29:13.640 Is that, is that who that was?

01:29:18.340 Sorry if I'm completely wrong, if I'm completely off the mark.

01:29:20.360 This is all just, is that who that was?

01:29:23.340 Douglas Murray wrote, if it was, Douglas Murray wrote a whole book about that.

01:29:28.380 Of course he did.

01:29:31.320 Of course he did.

01:29:34.280 The strange career of Douglas Murray.

01:29:39.600 Right.

01:29:41.000 We've had two more Rumble Rents come in.

01:29:42.800 Shall I read those?

01:29:43.340 Why not? I'm in no rush today

01:29:44.740 Two more have come in

01:29:46.740 Ryan Hinnigan

01:29:50.420 Says

01:29:51.960 American asking about British civics

01:29:55.020 If Starmer calls a snap election

01:29:57.460 Does the next election

01:29:59.020 Still happen in 2029

01:30:00.480 Or do you guys wait another five years for the next one

01:30:03.180 I believe that's the case

01:30:04.660 That the five years sort of reset

01:30:07.220 I believe that's the case

01:30:09.020 I might be wrong

01:30:10.120 The rules were changed relatively recently under Cameron

01:30:12.920 I say relatively

01:30:13.900 like 10-15 years ago

01:30:15.340 Cameron changed the rules

01:30:16.940 I believe there's

01:30:18.160 like a set period

01:30:18.900 so after

01:30:19.340 the next general election

01:30:20.680 they can call one earlier

01:30:21.780 if they want

01:30:22.260 but

01:30:22.500 after there's

01:30:24.120 a general election

01:30:24.860 whenever that is

01:30:25.680 you've then got

01:30:26.660 five years going forward

01:30:27.820 from that point

01:30:28.400 and they can call one earlier

01:30:29.640 if they want

01:30:30.020 but

01:30:30.200 I believe that's

01:30:31.500 I believe that's how it works now

01:30:32.500 yeah I believe that's how it works

01:30:36.620 I might be wrong

01:30:37.860 correct me if I'm wrong on that

01:30:38.680 I should know for sure

01:30:39.780 I'm sort of 80% confident

01:30:41.900 90% confident of that

01:30:42.900 okay and the last one the very last one jc warlock another super fan thank you sir

01:30:49.180 it says or or madam i don't know if you're a man or one says why does the king have such a

01:30:56.940 hard-on for islam it's a valid question isn't it is it because he knocked off dodie and diana

01:31:04.400 also Loch Ness Castle

01:31:10.760 we also mentioned

01:31:11.980 Loch Ness Castle thing

01:31:12.840 the Dodie and Diana

01:31:15.940 deaths

01:31:17.460 I think all the various investigations

01:31:22.240 concluded that

01:31:23.300 it was just a journalist

01:31:25.740 that was the journalist

01:31:28.020 chasing their Mercedes

01:31:30.020 through Paris that night

01:31:31.240 and that their driver was really drunk

01:31:33.900 I know you're only sort of mucking about half-joking but wasn't their driver shown to be

01:31:39.760 not just a bit drunk he was like massively drunk wasn't it if I recall rightly like he's like many

01:31:46.360 times over the legal driving limit he was completely sloshed anyway I think you're only

01:31:53.980 I think you're only largely mucking about all right that's the show it's now uh 31 minutes

01:31:59.800 past nine in the a.m. British summertime on Thursday the 14th of May in the year of our

01:32:05.640 rule 2026 you've been the glorious band the chosen few thank you for watching really genuinely

01:32:10.140 without you isn't a thing thank you try make the best of the day ahead you know carpe diem

01:32:15.300 seize the day try and make it count you'll never have this day again you've got a finite number

01:32:19.360 of these days on this earth if you can try and do something valuable with your time all right

01:32:26.380 I won't get too preachy about it.

01:32:27.400 Until tomorrow morning.

01:32:28.860 Take care.

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - May 14, 2026

Breakfast With Beau ｜ Thursday 14th May 2026

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