The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - Breakfast With Beau ｜ Thursday 25th June 2026

00:00:00.640 Morning, you all right?

00:00:07.680 I hope you are, just trolling the audience there

00:00:09.160 who hate the slurp sounds.

00:00:11.400 We did a poll once though,

00:00:13.280 and the majority said they didn't mind.

00:00:16.800 It's a good 30% if you said you hated it,

00:00:18.480 so I shouldn't do that, I'll stop doing that.

00:00:19.920 I'll try and remember most days

00:00:21.680 to not do it deliberately, anyway.

00:00:25.040 How are you, you all right?

00:00:27.640 I hope you are.

00:00:30.000 Come on, wakey-wakey, eggs and bakey, come on.

00:00:32.160 Another day, another dollar, let's get going.

00:00:33.920 Out of bed, sleepyhead.

00:00:36.160 As always, I'm joined...

00:00:37.340 Actually, no, I was about to do the usual thing.

00:00:39.760 As always, I'm joined by my producer.

00:00:42.180 It's supposed to be little Harry every day, isn't it?

00:00:44.060 But he's on holiday for the whole week.

00:00:45.880 We've had Jack.

00:00:47.680 Well, he's actually off as well now, so we've got Thomas.

00:00:50.600 Thomas, how are you, sir?

00:00:51.860 Good morning, I'm fine.

00:00:53.260 Good, good.

00:00:54.520 We've got a deep bench here at Lotus Eaters.

00:00:56.360 No expense spared.

00:00:57.220 so hopefully everything will go to plan but Thomas here this is this is your is this your

00:01:03.100 inaugural yeah this is my first first stream all right yeah okay so great we've got a poll I think

00:01:11.320 get involved the glorious band the chosen few you guys you know who you are the best

00:01:16.480 people on earth basically tune into the bow show live

00:01:20.260 locally known as the beau show

00:01:24.340 those breakfast club i should take the real bbc should we stop laughing about though

00:01:30.360 there's no need for this fannying about let's just get straight into it what have we got today

00:01:37.240 so it's never again and number 10 of the north never again refers to a really horrible story

00:01:45.180 about, about failings in the NHS. We'll get into it. And number 10 of the North, one of the things

00:01:53.180 King Bumham, the first, No Stoner Burnham has said, is that he's considering decentralising

00:02:01.300 power even more, the absolute opposite of what would happen in Bowes Britain, the absolute

00:02:05.580 opposite. I'd reverse the devolution we've already got. But he wants to do more. Because

00:02:13.100 is a commie and he hates he hates us and our institutions wants to ruin us he's talking about

00:02:18.860 making um some elements of the number 10 downing street the executive uh putting them up in the

00:02:26.580 north having like a second effectively like a second number 10 downing street some sort of

00:02:31.280 equivalent anyway up north maybe in manchester or whatever it's not like britain is the roman

00:02:40.440 empire and it's so massive that you actually need more than one capital this island isn't that big

00:02:47.900 there's absolutely no need for that no need for that in my opinion

00:02:52.340 all right let's get into it um also just to say you guys are probably aware of this if you watch

00:02:59.820 the boat show regularly that the papers go to print last night so if something happened in the

00:03:04.720 wee hours uh it won't be in the papers well there was something that she mentioned that straight

00:03:10.920 away actually there was something there was some sort of giant or two giant earthquakes in

00:03:16.560 Venezuela no it's not on any of the front pages of the papers because it hadn't happened at that

00:03:21.640 point when they go to print at like 10 p.m last night British summertime or 11 something like

00:03:27.100 yeah two massive earthquakes like 7.2 or 7.5 on the Richter scale and various reports saying how

00:03:37.840 bad it is some say that at least 32 are dead and 700 injured but others are saying was in the sun

00:03:44.060 saying there might be tens of thousands quake tragedy tens of thousands feared dead

00:03:50.060 after two earthquakes earthquakes rock venezuela

00:03:54.900 so okay just to say that is a massive thing today in the news cycle in the news in the world

00:04:01.820 but it's not on any of the front pages so i thought i'd bring that to you if you do actually

00:04:07.260 watch the bow show uh not just for like my rants but for actual to actually get the news that's

00:04:14.700 big, right? Could be tens of thousands of people. Okay. Let's get back to the front page on Fleet

00:04:21.100 Street in London. The Mirror, so gross, the Mirror. Farage had some sort of Brexit bash in

00:04:29.340 a French restaurant. So the Mirror have got a Farage derangement syndrome real bad, real,

00:04:37.460 real bad okay some sort of celebration or party or bash and sort of do but he

00:04:46.080 had in a French restaurant so what so what I think okay yesterday was the

00:04:53.720 hottest day on on for June in British recorded history record Baker

00:05:02.300 and it like record breaker but it was hot like baking record Baker you get it

00:05:06.620 you get it apparently today is set to be slightly hotter even so last night was warm i know a lot

00:05:15.120 of people watching the bow show aren't in britain it won't really mean anything to you if you are

00:05:21.800 you'll know last night was warm muggy i didn't get a very good night's sleep

00:05:25.680 well i really didn't it was difficult really difficult

00:05:30.060 apparently today and tomorrow will be uh today and tonight will be

00:05:36.540 as hot if not slightly hotter okay all right maternity scandal never again yeah this is that

00:05:45.280 thing where it said yeah never again this is what it is this is dominates the news cycle this morning

00:05:50.200 at least on the front pages and it's the story of one one specific hospital in nottingham

00:06:00.060 Breathing families say deadly failings in maternity services must never be repeated

00:06:07.380 A review into Nottingham Hospitals

00:06:10.380 That's one hospital though

00:06:12.140 It's called Nottingham Hospitals Trust

00:06:14.500 But it's one hospital

00:06:15.680 Found that 520 mums and babies died or suffered harm which could have been prevented

00:06:27.240 yeah suffered avoidable harm health minister pledges lasting change to country never again

00:06:37.380 this is on a lot of the front pages various various forms of that

00:06:42.200 terrible and it was saying it says all about how there was a culture of well various things of

00:06:51.100 of bullying sweeping things under the carpet um just complete neglect when they realized things

00:06:59.180 were going wrong over the course of like 10 years just not addressing it deliberately not addressing

00:07:04.140 it anyone that did try to blow the whistle or address it or do anything they just got bullied

00:07:08.780 out by managers seems like the real problem was like uh the managerial class rather than

00:07:16.620 sort of particularly individual doctors or nurses although it seems some of those are to blame as

00:07:20.780 well but largely it was more sort of like some sort of seems from what I glean I've read a fair

00:07:26.280 bit about it this morning over the last hour and a half um there is more sort of the managerial

00:07:32.140 level this this one hospital in Nottingham except except it's not just one hospital is it

00:07:42.420 it's nearly all of them isn't it it's not just maternity wards is it

00:07:49.140 It's like this thing

00:07:50.640 Oh there's a terrible problem with 1.00

00:07:52.680 Mainly Pakistani 1.00

00:07:54.980 Rape gangs in Rochdale 0.99

00:07:57.160 Oh just Rochdale is it 1.00

00:07:59.380 Okay

00:08:00.720 Oh no it's also in Rotherham

00:08:01.860 Oh just Rochdale and Rotherham is it

00:08:03.420 Okay yeah

00:08:04.400 Oh and Oxford

00:08:05.180 Oh just Rochdale and Oxford

00:08:06.720 It's just this one hospital in Nottingham

00:08:10.920 You're right

00:08:12.560 It's just the maternity ward of that one

00:08:15.240 In Nottingham

00:08:19.140 No.

00:08:20.300 No.

00:08:25.580 It's the whole rotten thing.

00:08:29.340 The whole rotten thing.

00:08:35.220 Not all of it actually, to be fair.

00:08:38.420 Some hospitals, some walls, some types of care in some hospitals are good.

00:08:45.080 Of course.

00:08:46.100 The NHS is such a giant thing.

00:08:49.140 that there will be some that's good a lot of it particularly maternity for some reason

00:08:55.280 particularly maternity care in on the nhs but they'll have you believe like they always do

00:09:01.380 silo it it's this is this one hospital in nottingham

00:09:04.420 every now and again there'll be a story in the new cycle for a while there's like one

00:09:09.740 particular hospital somewhere and there's like oh they've let loads of old people die on gurneys

00:09:14.100 in in corridors we'll make sure it never happens again what a terrible failure

00:09:18.880 can't believe it happened in this one hospital one time

00:09:21.540 all the time everywhere

00:09:26.520 you know it's true

00:09:30.880 the times the venerable times

00:09:37.360 Miliband uh takes key economic role in Burnham's uh backroom team a lot of the sort of political

00:09:47.340 wrangling around but what Burnham's government will look like at the moment is revolving around

00:09:52.480 who his chancellor is going to be a lot of the a lot of the uh reporting this morning is that

00:09:58.700 he's got sort of three six three people in mind really to be chancellor and Ed Miliband's one of

00:10:03.480 them um it's probably the the rock upon which your government is based perhaps isn't it the

00:10:10.320 the chancellor probably one of the first ones you've got to pick isn't it um i would have

00:10:16.260 thought you start from there and you build around that you pick the big ones first

00:10:22.140 um for a secretary home secretary whether it will be ed milliband there's one story i found

00:10:32.300 interesting wasn't on the front pages but it was on the website here we go here's a piece from the

00:10:40.760 mail andrew pierce he says the brains behind burnham's economic agenda oh okay that's

00:10:49.380 interesting okay i'd like to know more about that a quasi-marxist high-tax fanatic who should

00:10:59.180 terrify anyone who has savings or a pension huh so Andy Burnham's economic

00:11:06.020 worldview his economic theory is quasi-Marxist high tax

00:11:14.040 yeah again squeezing the rich and even the middle class and then even working

00:11:20.180 class people that have got anything until the pips go squeak right classic

00:11:24.360 Classic socialism.

00:11:27.600 Yeah.

00:11:28.440 I think they're doing a really, really virtuous thing

00:11:30.580 by making society more equal or something.

00:11:33.020 No, you're just stealing from people.

00:11:35.480 That is.

00:11:36.620 State-sponsored theft.

00:11:38.400 Simple as that, isn't it?

00:11:41.300 You're redistributing wealth,

00:11:42.960 although, oops, unfortunately,

00:11:44.480 it never really seems to trickle down

00:11:45.820 to the people that actually require it.

00:11:48.140 Oops.

00:11:49.360 You're just stealing it 1.00

00:11:50.340 and spending it on LGBTQ initiatives,

00:11:53.720 or something. Spending it on our invaders, putting them up, giving them free money and 0.91

00:12:00.020 handouts. You'll call that the redistribution of wealth with you. Tax the rich and the

00:12:08.140 middle class and even working class people that have got anything in order to pay for 0.99

00:12:11.920 their own invasion and demographic replacement. And you'll call that equality. You'll call 0.89

00:12:17.980 that the redistribution of wealth and that's morally right these people insane during the

00:12:24.060 last election campaign a rising star of the labor party aiming to wing the safe seat of peckham in

00:12:29.780 south london posted a glowing testimonial uh from one andy burnham on her website miata

00:12:37.700 interesting name miata is a leading voice on the need to change our economy okay never heard of

00:12:44.960 this person no one has it's the sort of the point of this article no one's ever heard of this person

00:12:48.420 before really outside of a small very small clique of burnham people um is a leading voice on the

00:12:57.380 need to change our economy miata okay with the ideas of uh with the ideas to bring about with

00:13:06.960 the ideas to bring about said the man now seemingly set to come the next prime minister

00:13:11.100 it was the first inkling of just how close they are this miata and andy burnham they're really

00:13:17.460 close and how crucial this woman who most voters have never heard of is likely to be in the king

00:13:22.940 of the north's new left-wing administration according to a recent article in socialist bible

00:13:27.920 the new statesman that's funny the mail calls the new statesman the socialist bible

00:13:31.980 she is set to be the brains quote the brains behind burnham's economic agenda

00:13:37.160 and that, say, her critics should terrify us all.

00:13:41.780 Well, she is the brains behind his economic agenda.

00:13:44.720 She will be extremely powerful in one way or another.

00:13:47.960 Let's hear more about this person.

00:13:49.860 Who is it?

00:13:50.280 Miata.

00:13:50.980 Miata Farnbulla.

00:13:55.200 46.

00:13:56.900 There she is.

00:14:01.140 Someone nobody's ever heard of. 1.00

00:14:02.760 Some random African woman nobody's ever heard of 1.00

00:14:06.040 who's a quasi-Marxist and a high-tax fanatic 1.00

00:14:09.420 and wants to change our economy. 1.00

00:14:13.660 Some African woman no one's ever heard of. 0.99

00:14:16.320 But she's a sycophant of Andy Burnham. 0.99

00:14:23.860 She's the brains behind the new political economy

00:14:27.860 in Burnham's Britain, is she?

00:14:30.240 All right, okay.

00:14:31.800 Great.

00:14:33.520 Great.

00:14:34.360 She's got all the answers, really.

00:14:36.040 really and the answers are more left-wing economic policy 0.98

00:14:42.020 right look at the state of it apparently she's a disciple of uh and uh redhead milliband as well

00:14:57.200 mad absolutely mad the exact opposite of what this country needs 1.00

00:15:02.380 the exact opposite

00:15:04.680 just more state control

00:15:11.040 of economy 0.99

00:15:12.020 they'll do

00:15:12.540 just tax the country

00:15:16.300 into oblivion

00:15:17.300 but to them

00:15:21.980 to a Marxist

00:15:22.920 that's the right thing

00:15:24.320 to do

00:15:24.780 it's morally right

00:15:27.500 to make sure

00:15:28.120 there's no rich people

00:15:29.220 that no one's really

00:15:30.180 got any wealth

00:15:30.940 If there's any liquid wealth, it should belong to the state.

00:15:35.980 Normal people.

00:15:37.380 Isn't that classic, the old cliche, the old weft cliche,

00:15:39.520 you have nothing, you own nothing.

00:15:42.880 That's how they want it.

00:15:46.880 Miata Farnbulla.

00:15:50.240 Okay, okay. 1.00

00:15:54.360 Cruel maternity care that left hundreds dead or injured.

00:15:58.700 NHS leaders could face jail

00:16:01.820 as report reveals they ignored serious failings

00:16:04.280 for more than a decade

00:16:05.580 yeah who are the individual people

00:16:07.640 that's the thing

00:16:08.580 that's like the thing with all the rape gang inquiries

00:16:11.160 what we would like to see normal people

00:16:14.880 is the individual people that failed

00:16:17.540 held to account

00:16:28.700 because it does well down to individual people.

00:16:34.820 That's what quite often doesn't happen

00:16:36.580 with the rape gang inquiries,

00:16:38.620 like the J inquiry.

00:16:40.520 Okay, yeah, there was the institutional failures,

00:16:42.420 there were failings at all level,

00:16:43.640 da-da-da-da-da.

00:16:45.160 And that's it.

00:16:45.700 Don't really name anyone specific,

00:16:48.780 or if they do name them,

00:16:50.560 they're not held to account.

00:16:54.180 I wonder if this inquiry that's just finished,

00:16:56.960 that took like years

00:16:58.280 four years or something

00:16:59.100 I say they are going to name them

00:17:02.200 and hold them to account

00:17:03.240 we'll see

00:17:04.120 wouldn't hold my breath

00:17:05.560 alright the mail

00:17:06.600 the Daily Mail

00:17:07.360 day Kemi gave cheer to everyone

00:17:10.320 depressed by Burnham's left wing coup

00:17:12.660 yeah it was PMQ's

00:17:13.920 yesterday wasn't it

00:17:14.400 Prime Minister's questions yesterday 0.97

00:17:15.540 and Kemi was quite caustic

00:17:19.540 and sarcastic 0.66

00:17:20.300 she's not too bad at that 0.99

00:17:24.040 to be fair

00:17:24.600 some credit where it's due

00:17:26.000 not every leader and leader of the opposition is any good at PMQs

00:17:34.140 she's not too bad at it

00:17:35.840 I don't want to give her any credit ever for anything but

00:17:39.360 I will if it's merited and it is I suppose

00:17:42.900 but it was easy though it's a slam dunk though right

00:17:45.360 Prime Minister just gets cooed by Andy Burnham

00:17:48.780 it's quite easy to dunk on that isn't it I think

00:17:51.720 right britain's worst maternity scandal nhs bosses ignored women's warnings as 500 mothers

00:17:59.600 and babies died or were harmed at toxic hospital trust arrogance of the men who wouldn't listen

00:18:05.560 at this hospital at this hospital king needs fan to keep his cool on hottest ever june day look

00:18:13.460 there's the king fat sausage fingers king charles iii chas saxcoburg gotha he was a bit hot and one

00:18:20.360 his aides had to hold one of those little handheld fans there for him

00:18:25.960 that's it let's put that on the front page why not

00:18:29.800 the financial times what is this i didn't i didn't really read this this

00:18:33.160 morning something about china's robots working it china's robots

00:18:39.640 plug shortfall i don't know what that is the like the automaton thing like robots

00:18:45.480 is getting warm out of control it actually looked like something out of

00:18:48.200 irobot now the the you remember that movie um they're beginning to actually look like them aren't 0.94

00:18:54.600 they okay i'm not impressed again i would john connor all of these to hell 0.71

00:19:07.400 we don't need them there's enough people in the world 0.76

00:19:10.200 unemployed people we don't need to automate everything do we

00:19:12.920 make most of the world unemployed i guess it's impossible to stop it is like an actual ludwap

00:19:23.900 like smashing up some spinning jennies it's like this you can break a few of them but it's not

00:19:28.860 going to stop progress okay okay burnham plot plots number 10 in the north and push for radical

00:19:39.780 devolution of power again the exact opposite of what should be done of what i would like done

00:19:45.540 what probably most of you out there watching this would like done more devolution of power

00:19:52.660 that damages our country doesn't it every time additional office set for manchester additional

00:20:01.540 sort of executive number 10 style office wider decentralization agenda why why would you do that

00:20:08.340 that unless you wanted to damage the country and she wanted to make it harder for future 0.98

00:20:13.900 governments to do their job don't see any other reason there's no sort of grand political

00:20:20.620 strategy behind that beyond damaging us doubt over split from Whitehall some in Whitehall

00:20:31.740 and of course people civil servants in number 10 itself are like don't do that don't dilute

00:20:36.520 our power okay the eye paper they go something slightly different talking about water failing

00:20:46.680 water firms face state control under burnham plans for power a classic thing classic socialist thing

00:20:56.600 if anything's failing just nationalize it does that work

00:21:01.080 sometimes usually not when you say something like that you always get some pinko in the comments

00:21:10.380 saying oh the privatization of the railways work really well didn't it yeah sometimes

00:21:14.400 privatization doesn't work very well yeah yeah okay there's always a balance between

00:21:23.820 nationalization and privatization of things usually when they just nationalize something

00:21:30.540 think, usually, not always, by Grant, not always, it gets worse. Who would you rather

00:21:38.440 have running something? A business, assuming your mind, your imagination isn't consumed

00:21:46.560 by leftist thought, where you're like, evil capitalists, we can't have evil capitalists

00:21:52.120 or anything. Just ask yourself, what would you rather have running something? A board

00:21:57.960 of professional managers trying to, trying deliberately actively trying to make it work

00:22:04.240 and efficient and make money or civil servant bureaucrats that are unanswerable to anyone

00:22:13.240 and doesn't, they don't care if it fails or takes forever and costs an absolute fortune.

00:22:18.500 Which, which one of those would you rather have?

00:22:21.340 Look at the HS2 debacle.

00:22:22.940 okay so water firms

00:22:27.240 I mean by the way if you look at I did a tweet about Clement Attlee the other day I've been

00:22:33.480 reading loads about Clement Attlee the Clement Attlee government which from 1941 to 1950 or 1951

00:22:39.720 where he nationalized loads and loads and loads and loads and loads and loads of things

00:22:46.220 nationalized the railways nationalized steel coal uh lots and lots of things

00:22:53.320 just set up a board a government board to deal with it they'll largely run into the ground it

00:22:59.940 took into like quite often to the 1970s for these things completely imploded but they run terribly

00:23:05.920 like say hugo chavez who just nationalized everything in venezuela country collapsed

00:23:12.840 again the the example of socialist countries where they nationalize everything like cuba

00:23:20.020 might take a few decades but you end up with everything failing to work how many times do 0.78

00:23:25.900 you have to do that maoist china oh we'll nationalize everything millions of people 1.00

00:23:30.160 starve the soviet union will nationalize everything complete collapse again and again and again and 0.97

00:23:35.980 again north korea everything's nationalized now mass starvation it's like 0.55

00:23:39.500 yeah this is what they want to do all right the man's not that the privatization of the

00:23:46.960 water companies has been brilliant of course it hasn't

00:23:49.560 the main the man set to become prime minister within weeks will consider taking over england's

00:23:56.980 sewage dumping companies using paris model of public ownership public ownership nationalization

00:24:02.800 blueprint blueprint being drawn up aims to take take over firms that fail to breach their licenses

00:24:12.360 pardon me burnham wants to end profiteering cut household bills and tackle pollution okay

00:24:22.900 cutting household bills and taking pollution well and good great yeah profiteering that's

00:24:29.240 the problem though you see that some people made money shareholders made money don't have that

00:24:36.820 that's the problem that's not the problem that's not the fundamental problem it was that it was

00:24:41.740 mismanaged by people will nationalizing it change that if you get a different cabal of people that

00:24:49.260 manage it will they manage it better they might they might not they quite possibly won't

00:24:55.040 But the idea that profiteering is itself, in and of itself, that's the problem.

00:25:03.420 That's socialists for you, they're obsessed by it, they're obsessed by anyone that owns

00:25:10.800 anything or anyone that has anything.

00:25:15.340 They want you poor, they want you to have nothing, they want you to be absolutely dependent

00:25:20.480 on the state so that they can control you.

00:25:25.040 Again, I don't know how many times that has to play out through history.

00:25:29.680 Okay.

00:25:32.240 Critics of public ownership warn of potential for taxpayer to incur debt.

00:25:37.480 Yeah.

00:25:39.340 So if the thing's unprofitable and goes into debt to the tune of millions and millions of pounds,

00:25:44.180 I will just transfer that to the public purse.

00:25:47.940 Oh, instead of the shareholders in various ways having to pick that up,

00:25:51.260 or the, it'll be the taxpayer, you're all right.

00:25:58.100 They worry the potential to taxpayers to incur debts,

00:26:01.640 damage to investor confidence in water sector,

00:26:05.320 and delayed upgrades to infrastructure.

00:26:08.880 I think you know it yourself,

00:26:09.580 when councils run things,

00:26:12.640 are they run efficiently?

00:26:15.200 Are they run well?

00:26:17.460 Or are they a clown show?

00:26:19.340 Where they're way way way over budget

00:26:22.340 And done way way way too slow 0.97

00:26:24.200 And their final product is pathetically poor 0.92

00:26:26.680 You know the answer to that don't you 0.95

00:26:30.700 You know the answer

00:26:31.520 Okay the telegraph

00:26:34.240 The daily telegraph

00:26:35.200 Again look the king

00:26:36.320 Charlie Saxe Cobo Goth was a bit warm 0.73

00:26:39.880 So some boot licking lackey

00:26:43.800 Had to hold a fan for him

00:26:45.140 He couldn't possibly hold his own fan

00:26:49.340 burnham calls on milliband as chancellor see we've got some slightly different reporting

00:26:54.940 today about how likely ed milliband is to be the chancellor so i'm saying he's a shoo-in

00:27:01.020 another saying like well like that one that perhaps burnham's considering somebody else actually

00:27:08.300 i think he did pick his chief of staff is it james pernell that was in the news last night i saw

00:27:14.140 james pernell who's been in and around government since like the blair years

00:27:17.180 that he'll be

00:27:19.220 Burnham's chief of staff

00:27:20.000 that's interesting

00:27:20.440 because it was mooted

00:27:21.600 that Josh Simons

00:27:22.800 would be his chief of staff

00:27:24.060 the guy that stepped down

00:27:25.700 in order to let Andy

00:27:27.180 run in Makerfield

00:27:28.460 hopefully that sweet job 0.99

00:27:31.180 has gone somewhere else 0.99

00:27:32.220 alright

00:27:32.540 Burnham calls on Miliband

00:27:33.860 as Chancellor

00:27:34.460 Challenger fears

00:27:36.140 repeat of

00:27:36.700 a Blair Brown rift

00:27:38.060 if he appoints

00:27:39.740 if he appoints

00:27:40.380 Darling of the Left

00:27:41.500 to number 11

00:27:42.480 Darling of the Left

00:27:43.320 Ed Miliband

00:27:44.320 yeah because

00:27:45.720 whoever you make

00:27:47.180 Whoever you make Chancellor is then, by definition,

00:27:51.100 same goes with Home Secretary and Foreign Secretary,

00:27:52.960 is by definition one of the biggest beasts in the party.

00:27:56.280 If anyone was looking to usurp you, the leader,

00:27:59.980 it would be one of them, probably.

00:28:03.680 And for anyone who doesn't know, it's a fair few years ago now, isn't it?

00:28:06.400 It feels like just yesterday still to me, but the whole Blair-Brown rift,

00:28:10.460 where Brown, Gordon Brown, texture like sun,

00:28:13.260 had a faction in the party that was as powerful as Blair's.

00:28:17.180 or towards the end, more powerful.

00:28:21.880 Does Andy Bumham, King of the North,

00:28:24.880 with his guy-liner and double chins and moobs,

00:28:27.640 does he fear that Red Ed Miliband could become more powerful

00:28:30.760 than he could ever imagine if he made him

00:28:33.600 Chancellor of the Exchequer?

00:28:36.800 Maybe.

00:28:37.960 I mean, Ed Miliband's already had his chance.

00:28:39.360 He's already had a go at being the leader of the Labour Party

00:28:41.920 and took them all the way to a general election and lost.

00:28:46.220 Handily.

00:28:47.180 So why anyone thinks Ed Miliband should go on to be the leader again?

00:28:57.080 This is what parliamentary power is like.

00:29:00.660 There's big beasts and everyone else circles around them,

00:29:03.140 orbits around them, hoping for a good job.

00:29:07.260 Kind of gross, really, isn't it?

00:29:08.940 That's what it is, though.

00:29:13.760 Homeowners ordered to rip out Aircon.

00:29:16.060 I didn't read this story.

00:29:16.900 This sounds absurd, though.

00:29:19.040 Very absurd.

00:29:20.760 I often pronounce that as a...

00:29:22.060 Sounds like I'm saying absurd.

00:29:23.840 I know it's absurd.

00:29:25.260 That sounds absurd.

00:29:27.060 Rip out air con, why?

00:29:29.960 Because of net zero stuff, I don't know.

00:29:31.860 All right.

00:29:33.420 How many more mothers and babies must die?

00:29:36.180 Asks the report author. 1.00

00:29:37.380 Yeah, good question, yeah.

00:29:39.240 Yeah, good question. 0.97

00:29:43.980 But the NHS must have quotas.

00:29:47.140 of diversity they must have many many layers of bureaucracy of people

00:29:52.900 that's the way it is that's why it's been built that's hard baked into it

00:29:57.380 and it's not fit for purpose anymore is it it's not fit for person the metro

00:30:12.900 look there's there's bumham and his makeup he's wearing a lot of makeup there isn't he

00:30:16.900 I don't wear makeup

00:30:21.440 we never do makeup

00:30:22.180 we haven't got any sort of

00:30:23.260 we haven't got a makeup person

00:30:25.620 we don't bother with any of that

00:30:27.040 au naturel

00:30:28.820 more honest than it

00:30:30.500 look how much makeup he's wearing there 0.97

00:30:31.860 it's ridiculous 0.91

00:30:32.580 he's got foundation on and everything 0.79

00:30:35.180 what is that? 0.95

00:30:37.240 Kemi lashes out at Andy

00:30:39.040 she mentioned his eyelashes 0.99

00:30:40.120 you know what I say about

00:30:40.780 that he wears eyeliner

00:30:41.760 guy liner

00:30:42.940 mascara

00:30:44.280 other people have noticed that

00:30:47.620 Bednock calls

00:30:50.660 Olukemi Badenock the Nigerian woman

00:30:52.660 who somehow finds herself at the head of the

00:30:54.860 opposition 0.99

00:30:56.140 whose mum just came up here from Nigeria 0.98

00:30:59.300 in order to take the absolute mickey out of the NHS 1.00

00:31:01.200 have her baby on the NHS 1.00

00:31:03.160 that woman

00:31:05.240 says that the PM in waiting 0.67

00:31:07.720 is nothing but a pair of eyelashes

00:31:09.680 and a black t-shirt

00:31:10.740 it's not a bad dunk

00:31:13.240 to be honest

00:31:13.840 Yeah

00:31:15.760 The idea that he's like something special

00:31:19.280 Some sort of political

00:31:20.240 False

00:31:22.040 That he's got like all the answers

00:31:23.860 That he's like a wizard of policy

00:31:26.660 He can turn the party and the country around

00:31:29.660 No 1.00

00:31:31.320 He's just some sort of idiot throwback 1.00

00:31:35.260 Parlor in pinko 1.00

00:31:37.140 That's all he is

00:31:38.060 That's all he is 1.00

00:31:39.920 Some sort of northern moron 1.00

00:31:43.160 who's obsessed with leftist ideas that don't work. 1.00

00:31:47.180 That's all he is.

00:31:49.920 Yeah, a throwback.

00:31:51.320 A man out of time.

00:31:53.240 We've tried it.

00:31:54.640 We've tried this stuff for quite a while.

00:31:56.460 And since 1997, we've tried your way of doing it,

00:32:00.020 and it's led us to ruin.

00:32:04.100 There's talk, isn't there, the story is that he wants to lock in the Boris wave.

00:32:07.640 Just blanketly give them all indefinite right to remain.

00:32:13.160 so an insane suicidal thing absolute traitor an enemy of the people quite

00:32:19.840 literally an enemy of the people once us demographically replaced as

00:32:24.900 fast as possible and our economy ruined as fast as possible and you'll call it 0.87

00:32:29.680 equality it'll say to you with a straight face 0.97

00:32:33.840 it's the right thing to do

00:32:37.060 Okay, the Express, oh, it's a good paper.

00:32:46.420 I can read to Express now.

00:32:52.080 There's that Emma, what's her name?

00:32:54.120 Raduchoyu.

00:32:55.140 It's not Raduchoyu, is it?

00:32:56.420 Raducani. 0.90

00:32:58.040 She's some tennis player that's British. 0.69

00:33:00.300 I mean her parents are like

00:33:05.920 Chinese and Romanian

00:33:08.240 And she was born in Canada

00:33:09.300 But she's British 0.99

00:33:10.080 She's British now 1.00

00:33:13.220 Because the very idea 1.00

00:33:18.160 Of having an ethnic component

00:33:20.760 To the national identity

00:33:21.960 Of being British 0.78

00:33:22.840 Is neo-Nazi isn't it 0.98

00:33:24.620 So she's British 1.00

00:33:27.180 a romanian chinese person born in canada is british okay right but she's quite pretty so 0.95

00:33:39.940 even though she's a very mediocre tennis player they put her on the front page all the time all

00:33:44.740 right campaigners urge pm in in waiting a burnham in waiting burnham not to scrap essential

00:33:51.980 pension or payout sorry right campaigners urge p.m in waiting sorry

00:33:58.640 should be a comma there p.m in waiting burnham not to scrap essential pension or payout okay

00:34:05.640 don't target a crucial pension triple lock why not why not it's completely unaffordable and

00:34:12.100 unsustainable oh but old people they must have a triple lock must they or so that the generations 0.97

00:34:20.980 that succeed them get nothing the whole pension thing completely implode but they must have their 1.00

00:34:27.060 triple luck must they i think so like the guardian the guardian a weirdo lying freaks

00:34:35.460 insane subversive enemies the guardian insane look at this the guardian look be scared that it's hot 0.95

00:34:47.280 the new normal 0.96

00:34:51.240 hand wringing

00:34:54.700 pearl clutching

00:34:56.280 the new normal

00:34:57.260 it's a bit warm

00:34:58.720 UK registers

00:35:01.400 hottest day ever

00:35:02.400 France breaks

00:35:05.100 heat record again

00:35:06.160 extremes driven

00:35:07.720 by climate crisis

00:35:08.800 there's no climate crisis

00:35:09.840 it's not a crisis

00:35:11.600 it's mad isn't it

00:35:17.280 that's what they do they're literally just waiting you have the coldest winter

00:35:20.500 and they'll just say keep stum we have a really hot day even a record-breaking

00:35:25.160 hot day and they're like this is the moment this is the moment to try and

00:35:29.520 fear-monger for the agenda the agenda

00:35:34.940 if anything we're in in an interglacial period but you they're worried about some

00:35:40.900 sort of a runaway greenhouse effect like they've got on Venus nonsense nonsense

00:35:47.280 that all the ice caps are going to melt.

00:35:49.920 Nonsense.

00:35:52.760 No.

00:35:54.240 We're almost certainly between mini ice ages.

00:35:59.880 Just have some perspective, honestly.

00:36:03.400 What records began in, what, the 19th century

00:36:05.260 or even early 20th century,

00:36:06.800 systematic worldwide records of temperature,

00:36:11.560 you expect the Earth's climate,

00:36:14.140 which will always be in flux will always be in flux you expect climate to remain like that

00:36:20.540 you expect the world's climate and temperatures to remain as they were in sort of the early mid

00:36:24.940 20th century they just remain like that anything if it moves from that then there's a climate crisis

00:36:31.500 no no that's like a tiny snapshot of the earth's history tiniest tiniest of snapshots

00:36:44.140 If you zoom out a bit on the graph, you'll see that it's not a crisis.

00:36:50.360 You'll see that we've had temperatures vastly warmer than this.

00:36:55.660 Vastly.

00:36:57.440 Where there have indeed actually been no ice caps,

00:36:59.960 where there have been tropical plants growing on Antarctica,

00:37:03.060 palm trees growing on Antarctica.

00:37:05.160 We've had snowball earth where the ice caps come down.

00:37:08.560 All of Canada and a lot of North America, most of Europe,

00:37:12.520 is covered in glaciers

00:37:14.480 and ice sheets

00:37:15.280 we've had both of those extremes

00:37:17.280 more than once

00:37:18.600 I get some perspective

00:37:20.940 just get some perspective

00:37:23.020 but it's not about that is it

00:37:24.280 it's not about what's true

00:37:25.180 it's not about what's real

00:37:25.960 it's not that

00:37:26.740 it's not about that

00:37:27.940 probably the reality is

00:37:29.420 that over the next

00:37:30.020 maybe 5,000 years

00:37:31.700 something on that scale

00:37:32.520 we'll have a period of glaciation again

00:37:34.720 it's not about that is it

00:37:35.740 no

00:37:36.540 it's about their agenda

00:37:38.200 of controlling people

00:37:39.480 scaring you

00:37:41.060 into being pliant with their agenda that's what it's about it's not about how hot the day is

00:37:47.940 don't be fooled okay the science is in the debate is over man-made co2 drives climate change no it

00:37:56.600 doesn't 400 parts per million maybe half of that is man-made co2 since the industrial revolution

00:38:02.640 or since world war ii so what something in the order of 200 parts per million man-made co2

00:38:07.780 that doesn't drive climate change. 200 odd parts per million,

00:38:12.520 don't know how tiny that is. Don't know how tiny that is.

00:38:17.640 That doesn't drive climate change. It just doesn't.

00:38:24.740 The internal processes of the earth, volcanoes, the weather patterns of the sun,

00:38:32.900 how the sun behaves

00:38:34.740 that will drive

00:38:37.180 climate on earth

00:38:38.600 far more

00:38:39.500 far far far more

00:38:40.640 than man-made CO2

00:38:43.040 you can't burn fossil fuels

00:38:46.620 because man-made CO2

00:38:49.520 will drive a climate crisis

00:38:50.840 it just doesn't

00:38:51.860 it doesn't actually make sense

00:38:53.480 it doesn't stand up to scrutiny

00:38:54.840 it is nonsense

00:38:55.580 oh and only for western countries

00:38:57.640 India and China 0.99

00:38:58.820 they can burn as much

00:39:00.000 fossil fuel as they want

00:39:01.040 it would be racist or bigoted for us to sort of question that

00:39:04.340 what

00:39:06.580 what are you talking about

00:39:09.760 it's mad the whole climate thing

00:39:16.220 or they'll point to the hockey stick the 1990 UN hockey stick thing

00:39:20.460 look if that trend continues there'll be a runaway greenhouse

00:39:24.480 effect and all the ice caps will melt and Manhattan will be underwater

00:39:28.620 by 2012

00:39:29.380 yeah right

00:39:33.240 meanwhile you have to do as you're told because of it

00:39:38.440 oh

00:39:39.080 all right

00:39:40.860 we'll come up with more and more restrictive things

00:39:44.200 and censorious measures

00:39:45.920 more and more encroachment of the state and the government into your lives

00:39:49.600 because of it

00:39:50.200 oh

00:39:50.760 huh

00:39:51.840 okay

00:39:53.720 what has to do with the climate is it yeah

00:39:56.100 yeah yeah

00:39:56.840 there's going to be climate taxes now

00:39:59.880 Oh, are they?

00:40:02.060 Right.

00:40:05.200 We're going to start charging you 40p for a plastic carrier bag because of the climate crisis.

00:40:13.320 People that have bought into this just need to get some perspective about climate change.

00:40:20.220 It will always be in flux.

00:40:24.000 Always.

00:40:24.520 If it's getting slightly hotter over the last few decades, okay, so be it.

00:40:33.120 We're nowhere near, nowhere near a runaway greenhouse effect.

00:40:37.560 Nowhere near.

00:40:39.800 Again, in the past, we've had CO2 levels, orders of magnitude higher than they are now.

00:40:46.860 Orders of magnitude.

00:40:48.760 What was the result?

00:40:50.280 Megaflora.

00:40:50.920 an explosion of life

00:40:54.500 we're at some sort of all-time low

00:40:58.240 for CO2 in the atmosphere

00:41:00.020 but man-made CO2 drives climate change

00:41:05.040 alright, alright, okay

00:41:06.420 alright, the Daily Star, what pure slot

00:41:10.460 look, Gareth Southgate, who used to be the manager of England

00:41:12.580 he goes to bed before the Games

00:41:13.840 because they're in America, for Britain, they're on quite late, aren't they

00:41:16.420 often at 10, 11pm, midnight

00:41:18.220 Gareth Southgate's in bed by that point

00:41:20.820 That's front page news.

00:41:21.900 There you go.

00:41:22.760 Again, King Charles got hot.

00:41:24.360 King Charles got a bit hot.

00:41:25.940 Look, there's a little bit of sweat on the side of his face.

00:41:30.620 It's so hot, Chaz is sweating, unlike bro Andy.

00:41:34.820 This is the front page.

00:41:36.880 Do you remember Andy?

00:41:39.200 Prince Andrew, formerly was.

00:41:41.880 Now just Andrew Mountbatten.

00:41:43.760 His little brother, he famously said he doesn't sweat.

00:41:47.700 The king does, though.

00:41:48.540 Look, there you go.

00:41:49.480 There you go.

00:41:50.380 the independent hunted kidnapped blackmailed and tortured for being lgbtq plus this is the most

00:42:01.880 important thing in the world right now according to the independent front and center this is the 0.91

00:42:07.560 world of keto attacks in nigeria where gay and trans people are catfished and extorted by gangs 0.88

00:42:14.160 in a surge of violence and hatred don't care sorry i'm just gonna say i don't care about that 0.96

00:42:18.820 that's in nigeria that's their problem we've got enough problems of our own well i'm supposed to 0.90

00:42:24.180 care about gay and trans people in nigeria being exploited by other nigerians in nigeria i don't 0.99

00:42:30.660 care i don't care about that i care about my country what's going on in my country my people 1.00

00:42:36.340 don't give me that oh the poor plight of lgbt people in nigeria don't care don't care 1.00

00:42:42.020 the sun 1.00

00:42:44.400 this is ridiculous 0.90

00:42:46.660 this is so ridiculous it's actually a bit funny 0.98

00:42:48.600 Kane, Harry Kane, that football player 0.91

00:42:51.220 there if you don't know

00:42:52.060 probably England's best striker

00:42:53.940 Kane curse lifted

00:42:56.280 they jinx it's all over it is now

00:42:59.160 remember the old cliche

00:43:01.160 from 1966, they think it's all over

00:43:03.280 it is now, they jinx it's all over

00:43:05.560 it is now 0.85

00:43:06.540 this guy, a witch doctor

00:43:09.380 has removed a curse

00:43:13.880 because Harry Kane went one game

00:43:16.500 without scoring a goal

00:43:17.520 he's cursed 1.00

00:43:19.920 and this witch doctor was able to 1.00

00:43:22.340 remove the curse

00:43:23.580 England fans

00:43:26.120 that's so small I can barely read it

00:43:28.140 that's so small I can't read it I'm afraid

00:43:31.620 but the story said

00:43:33.340 that we can rest easy now

00:43:35.800 we can rest easy now

00:43:37.560 there was a he's been released harry kane has been released from his curse by this dude

00:43:46.840 all right okay they're the front pages those were the increasingly absurd front pages from fleet 0.98

00:43:54.100 street mostly slop isn't it really mostly slop mostly treating you like a buffoon 0.99

00:44:00.840 that's a complete idiot all right should we have a look at our poll we usually look at our poll at 1.00

00:44:06.900 this stage of the uh show um i think thomas you'd need to bring it up little harry often does that 0.99

00:44:15.000 because i can't see it at the moment so i'll just i'll just wait for this his first day give him a

00:44:20.480 break there you go brilliant there you go thank you we asked you guys oh we asked you guys have

00:44:25.060 you seen the price of fuel decrease at the pumps recently oh yeah because let's let's show you

00:44:32.560 uh the price of crude has come down even further it's definitely definitely fully cheaper than it

00:44:39.880 was than the beginning of the war with iran look west texas is a just shy of 70 a barrel 69.35 in

00:44:48.160 fact earlier this morning about an hour and a half it was much lower than that west texas was it like

00:44:53.880 is it as low as like 62 or something anyway it's a bit lower than that even like an hour an hour

00:44:59.600 and a half ago two hours ago but at the moment west texas is shy of 70 a barrel and brent crude

00:45:06.560 is about 72 72 and a half dollars a barrel when the war began is about 78 so it's cheaper it's

00:45:16.780 cheaper so we asked you have you seen the price of fuel decrease at the pumps 77 of you say no

00:45:23.580 not fair is it

00:45:28.860 yeah there are a myriad of reasons why that will be it's just simply not fair

00:45:35.340 is it 23% if you say yes though that's

00:45:39.160 interesting I thought it might be like a high 90s

00:45:43.380 I was expecting the no vote there to be in the 90s to be honest

00:45:47.400 slightly surprised as much as 23% said yes

00:45:51.560 okay still mostly no the majority though is still no

00:45:57.640 um i'll tell us i can't remember what you said this way but you drive

00:46:02.680 have you noticed it go down not at all not at all

00:46:07.560 okay all right let's have a quick look at uh well it's already quarter two we'll have a quick look

00:46:17.300 at the websites there's one or two stories that are of oh yeah so the venezuela earthquake

00:46:21.980 over the coming day it might more and more news and info come out that might be i don't know

00:46:30.660 thousands of people have been crushed in that earthquake two earthquakes they were saying

00:46:37.320 scotland got smashed three nil by brazil in the football i know you guys don't care so i'll leave

00:46:42.120 it at that, but the jocks got smashed by the Brazilians. It was expected though, wasn't 0.98

00:46:50.020 it? Trump asks Congress for $87 billion, mostly for urgent Iran war costs. Some sort of resolution 0.51

00:46:59.520 went through Congress and the Senate to curb Trump's Iran powers, but it wasn't a binding

00:47:05.920 resolution in any way. So it's just sort of a, it's more like an exercise in finger wagging

00:47:11.600 rather than actual any restraint on Trump's power

00:47:13.960 I think two, three or four Republicans

00:47:17.460 voted with the Democrats on that 0.96

00:47:19.320 and Trump just calls them losers 1.00

00:47:20.540 they're just losers 0.99

00:47:21.720 we'll see what happens after the midterms 0.98

00:47:25.020 because Trump is remarkably powerful at the moment

00:47:27.520 in terms of controlling Congress and the Senate

00:47:31.780 and of course the Supreme Court is with him

00:47:36.240 so he's actually sort of as powerful as a president can be

00:47:41.600 could have a could have a bigger majority in the senate or super majority but still

00:47:46.560 as far as presidents go trump at the moment is relatively powerful let's see what happens after

00:47:50.800 the midterms people it's usually a president whatever party is in the white house usually

00:47:58.160 do poorly at the midterms but not always we'll see there are some there's some evidence isn't

00:48:04.640 there that trump and the republicans might do better than expected

00:48:11.600 There's some people, even a big chunk of people in America,

00:48:14.920 are not completely jaded by Trump and MAGA at this point.

00:48:20.860 We'll see.

00:48:22.160 GTA 6, the long-awaited GTA 6 is coming out.

00:48:25.920 I think it came out today.

00:48:26.980 It's coming out today.

00:48:27.840 We can buy the people that are allowed to buy it slightly earlier

00:48:30.880 than normal people.

00:48:32.440 Anyway, I think it's like $80 or £70.

00:48:36.220 And the physical edition won't even contain a disc.

00:48:38.600 It gives you some sort of...

00:48:39.660 Anyway, GTA 6.

00:48:41.600 Are you looking forward to GTA 6?

00:48:43.360 Maybe we'll ask that on the poll tomorrow.

00:48:44.800 Thomas, are you looking forward to GTA 6?

00:48:46.520 Do you care about that?

00:48:48.080 No.

00:48:48.840 Oh.

00:48:50.060 There you go.

00:48:50.780 Fair enough.

00:48:53.000 Some said it's going to be a bit woke.

00:48:57.200 Been waiting for it for ages.

00:48:58.380 It was supposed to come out like years ago, wasn't it?

00:49:00.560 It was supposed to come out like 10 years ago,

00:49:02.360 or maybe not quite that long,

00:49:03.560 but it's being pushed back and back and back.

00:49:06.040 It'll probably be the biggest selling game of all time,

00:49:08.120 you would have thought.

00:49:08.660 The last one was, wasn't it?

00:49:09.840 GTA 5, wasn't it?

00:49:11.600 Um, I haven't got time, quite literally haven't got time to spend, to just sink like 100 or

00:49:19.260 200 hours into GTA 6.

00:49:21.640 I would like to.

00:49:24.120 I'd like to be 22 again and just spend my evenings playing that.

00:49:32.340 But, okay.

00:49:35.820 All right, GTA 6 is coming out.

00:49:36.920 means a great deal to some people

00:49:39.600 into gaming

00:49:41.380 alright

00:49:42.160 is there one or two other things

00:49:44.540 the Venezuela earthquake

00:49:46.800 see that's the main thing now

00:49:49.700 look at that

00:49:51.920 this guy

00:49:58.340 British Airways Pilot 30 0.92

00:50:00.300 raped schoolgirl 12 0.83

00:50:01.880 after grooming her on Instagram

00:50:03.680 that guy if you're only listening to this on audio you'll have to guess what he looks like

00:50:12.880 you just have to guess

00:50:15.120 all right we do on this day in history

00:50:26.440 i quite like doing that bit you don't you guys seem to like me doing that bit

00:50:31.160 on this day the 25th of june down through the centuries what happened of no right what we got

00:50:35.660 1678 venetian eleanor carano cornaro piscopia never heard of this is awarded a doctor of

00:50:48.620 philosophy from the university of padua the first woman to receive a university doctoral degree in

00:50:54.080 or PhD. They do this these days, don't they? In this woke world, they do it. They'll find

00:51:01.340 something really obscure, the first woman to do something, the first black person to

00:51:04.960 do something, the first black woman to do something. No one's ever heard of them. It's

00:51:08.800 the most obscure thing in history ever. They'll find it and dig it out and promote it as though

00:51:13.040 it's mainstream history, as though everyone always knew that. Until not that long ago,

00:51:18.680 No one ever talked about Windrush.

00:51:21.100 That was an extremely obscure bit of history, Windrush.

00:51:25.440 I maybe heard it once before, like, five, ten years ago.

00:51:30.040 It wasn't a well-known thing at all.

00:51:32.020 Now they talk about it like it's part of the popular culture,

00:51:34.880 popular history, really important thing that everyone knows about,

00:51:38.100 needs to know about. 0.99

00:51:41.300 They pick out some random black nurse from the American Civil War

00:51:45.280 no one's ever heard of, and suddenly their name is really important.

00:51:48.680 It should be part of popular history.

00:51:52.280 Okay, like this.

00:51:53.600 Eleanor Cornano Piscopia from the 17th century,

00:51:58.100 the first woman to get a PhD from Padua. 0.94

00:52:02.160 Don't care. 1.00

00:52:03.320 Don't care.

00:52:03.940 It's not important.

00:52:05.300 Custer's Last Stand.

00:52:06.420 All right, George Custer.

00:52:08.480 The story of Custer's Last Stand is a great one.

00:52:10.720 Fascinating one.

00:52:12.360 He's a Civil War hero, actually, Custer.

00:52:14.920 He was impetuous.

00:52:15.680 He made tactical and strategic errors at the Battle of Little Bighorn.

00:52:19.580 1786, Battle of Little Bighorn, US 7th Cavalry under Major General George Armstrong Custer

00:52:26.080 is wiped out by Sioux and Cheyenne warriors, led by Chiefs Crazy Horse and Sitting Bull

00:52:31.360 in what becomes famously known as Custer's Last Stand.

00:52:37.320 It's interesting and important because, in fact, of course, the US

00:52:43.060 went on to completely dominate the indians the first nation peoples whatever you want to call

00:52:50.200 them the native indigenous peoples i went on there was only one that custer's last stand and the

00:52:55.880 massacre there is one tiny blip of success as far as the sioux and the cheyenne were concerned

00:53:00.820 of course they and u.s hating americans will play it up for all time like it's a great thing 0.58

00:53:10.400 Like how the Zulus won a very small victory

00:53:17.420 against the British Army one time. 0.99

00:53:22.120 I make out that that's some sort of great thing.

00:53:25.160 It's not, we went on to completely, completely trounce you.

00:53:29.160 Again, the US went on to completely trounce them.

00:53:34.620 It's interesting anyway.

00:53:35.880 It's interesting anyway.

00:53:36.820 In the end, I can't remember if it was Crazy Horse or Sitting Bull.

00:53:38.880 I think Sitting Bull.

00:53:40.220 He ended up being captured and living on for years.

00:53:43.880 I think it was sitting, but it was one of them anyway.

00:53:46.340 Went on living for years and years and years,

00:53:48.320 like maybe even into the very early 20th century.

00:53:52.460 And he got trotted out as like a curiosity.

00:53:59.620 Look, here's this old, genuine, old, like Sioux chieftain.

00:54:06.220 Look, he's real. He's still alive.

00:54:07.500 Look, there he is.

00:54:09.700 We, the British, did the same with the head of the Zulu nation as well.

00:54:18.320 But they won a great victory, sure.

00:54:21.140 In 1929, US President Herbert Hoover authorises the construction of Boulder Dam,

00:54:26.800 now known as the Hoover Dam.

00:54:30.560 Is this a guard dam?

00:54:35.640 Yeah, the Hoover Dam, as far as dams go,

00:54:39.700 a very important one

00:54:42.780 and somewhat beautiful

00:54:45.180 if that's your bag

00:54:47.100 on this day in 1941

00:54:49.080 US President FDR

00:54:50.620 signs Executive Order 8802

00:54:53.340 which forbids racial discrimination

00:54:55.120 in the defence industry

00:54:56.760 largely what that was about

00:54:59.540 well not largely

00:55:01.340 but a portion of what that was about

00:55:03.080 was Italian Americans

00:55:05.280 because Mussolini was on the side

00:55:07.540 of the axis wasn't he

00:55:08.640 Italy was an enemy of the United States in World War two right and yet there's 0.91

00:55:15.540 loads of Italian Americans awkward do you want does the United States need to 0.98

00:55:21.780 sort of make sure that their Italian American population is loyal to the 0.99

00:55:25.260 United States not Italy like sabotaging the ship building and stuff like that

00:55:31.380 what that's largely about

00:55:35.780 the Korean War

00:55:37.040 in 1915 North Korea invades South Korea

00:55:40.420 beginning the Korean War

00:55:41.880 I've talked about the Korean War on and off

00:55:44.260 a couple of times on Epochs

00:55:45.740 but I do really need to do a proper

00:55:48.240 long form stuff about the Korean War

00:55:52.340 it's such a ding dong back and forth

00:55:54.320 it really is

00:55:56.220 both World War 1 and World War 2 were

00:55:59.360 well World War 1's

00:56:01.240 in the west the western front very static really for most of it not all of it but most of it

00:56:06.300 world war ii the the broad the the very very very broadly speaking the momentum

00:56:13.480 was clear who it was with when it changed and but the korean war

00:56:17.540 it swung wildly back and forth a number of times who was winning who wasn't

00:56:24.580 interesting one very interesting okay and on this day in 2021 world health organization

00:56:30.860 head Tedros I can never pronounce the rest of his name that Tedros fella confirms the

00:56:36.660 COVID-19 Delta variant is the most transmissible to date now present in 85 countries and spreading

00:56:43.000 rapidly it wasn't much worse than flu though was it basically like a cold or flu wasn't

00:56:49.420 it you definitely didn't need to inject yourself with weird experimental drugs which didn't

00:56:55.100 prevent you getting it in my opinion all right should we do our rumble rants and super chats

00:57:03.260 let's have a look at those we do the rumble rants first as always will global church history being

00:57:10.640 at number one yes he is reigning defending and still the champion of um of rumble rants on the

00:57:24.480 ocean global church history first name global middle name church surname history says on this

00:57:30.920 day in 1080 ad emperor barbarossa uh declares his vassal wilbert of ravenna to be pope clement iii

00:57:39.420 beginning the wilbertine line of anti-popes that's interesting very interesting stuff

00:57:43.820 of course it's after the great schism when the eastern and western churches split that's in like

00:57:49.560 the 50s the 1050s right so this is a different schism basically it's to do with um it's to do

00:57:58.700 with that question of um i can't remember the formal name of it but the question of who gets

00:58:03.800 to name bishops whether it should be the pope or whether it should be kings or really the whole

00:58:09.900 struggle between kings and popes who's more powerful who's the ultimate authority is it the

00:58:16.180 church or is it the crown? Is it the papal diadem or actual regnal kings? Well, it's a question that

00:58:27.340 raged on for centuries after that. Sometimes not settled until the Reformation, until like the

00:58:36.320 16th century. It wasn't fully settled in England until Henry VIII. Different kings and different

00:58:43.980 popes felt very differently about it that was part of that way to have anti-popes it's been

00:58:48.400 all sorts of anti-popes running around for centuries and this is the beginning of it but

00:58:52.960 for centuries to come but when i did my stuff about henry v in like the early that's like the

00:59:01.300 early 15th century the council of constance like 1415 there's like four guys running around

00:59:09.320 claiming to be Pope at least one legit Pope and three anti-popes for a long time there was three

00:59:18.240 one and two others two other anti-popes but the Avignon anti-popes anyway it's all there I can't

00:59:26.240 go into now it's that's that's far too deep just to begin to scratch the surface on that I'd need

00:59:29.760 I'd need an hour okay the other thing you say here is and on this day in 1483 Parliament declared

00:59:38.360 Edward V illegitimate

00:59:40.340 on Bode's Epochs

00:59:44.480 my history theme channel

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00:59:45.920 on notifications.com

00:59:46.740 do consider sign up

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00:59:51.940 I've got content

00:59:52.900 all about

00:59:53.560 long form content

00:59:54.500 deep dives

00:59:55.180 into the wars

00:59:56.700 of the roses

00:59:57.500 and just after

01:00:00.280 the wars

01:00:00.920 it's still within it

01:00:02.720 Edward IV

01:00:05.920 great strong

01:00:07.720 Yorkist King who won the crown

01:00:10.800 dies of natural causes sort of out of nowhere

01:00:13.440 he's got a little son who's only like 11

01:00:15.760 Edward V

01:00:17.300 but he's got a badass uncle Richard

01:00:21.220 Duke of Gloucester Richard III

01:00:23.760 who decides hmm if that little boy

01:00:26.980 my nephew my own nephew if he should for some reason

01:00:30.060 fail to keep living

01:00:33.140 I would be king oh and his little brother

01:00:36.200 if my two little nephews if for whatever reason they happened to find themselves in their graves

01:00:43.080 i could be king i would be king wouldn't i lo and behold they disappeared first yet to make

01:00:50.300 him legally illegitimate though which they did the prince is in the tower okay let's crack on

01:01:00.180 Luke Stewart says

01:01:01.920 G'day Bo

01:01:02.440 G'day mate 0.99

01:01:02.980 And everyone

01:01:05.020 How is everyone

01:01:05.880 Doing this fine Thursday morning

01:01:07.540 Good thanks

01:01:08.540 Yeah fine thank you

01:01:09.220 Cheers

01:01:09.580 Yeah

01:01:11.160 Warm

01:01:11.660 He is warm

01:01:12.260 Uncomfortable

01:01:15.420 An uncomfortable night's sleep

01:01:17.180 We've got the aircon on in here

01:01:19.680 So I'm alright right now

01:01:20.480 Thank you very much

01:01:21.340 I hope you're doing well

01:01:22.340 It's winter down in Oz right

01:01:23.680 So it's probably not baking

01:01:24.840 It's probably still quite warm

01:01:26.520 You put

01:01:27.900 Just wondering

01:01:29.140 if you saw the article article about Paul Powell's like no I still haven't sorry still haven't I said

01:01:35.260 I would didn't I okay I must remember to do that today I said I would I hate saying I would do

01:01:39.520 something and then just failing to I do like to try and keep my word where possible but quite

01:01:45.340 often what happens is the reality just to let you know is I finish this show every morning and then

01:01:50.820 I have to immediately go off and start doing other stuff so fairly immediately like today for example

01:01:56.060 straight after the show

01:01:56.940 I've got to go in

01:01:57.940 and record a bit

01:01:58.960 for Epochs

01:01:59.760 talking about

01:02:01.920 Henry VIII again actually

01:02:02.860 talking about

01:02:03.360 Jane Seymour

01:02:04.000 the Jane Seymour years

01:02:05.140 and then

01:02:06.720 other stuff

01:02:07.460 and on and on and on

01:02:08.260 and so quite often

01:02:09.640 I'll just

01:02:10.080 I'll just forget

01:02:11.140 I'll just move on

01:02:11.800 but I'll try and remember that

01:02:13.320 in fact Thomas

01:02:15.000 can you

01:02:15.420 make a note of that

01:02:16.680 even on a post-it

01:02:17.460 or something

01:02:18.020 yep

01:02:19.200 thank you

01:02:20.000 because I hate saying

01:02:21.180 I'll do something

01:02:21.780 and then failing to

01:02:22.660 say okay alright

01:02:23.340 and you put

01:02:24.760 and thankfully fuel has gone down okay look at least in australia saying fuel has gone down

01:02:31.780 i'm paying about uh one dollar eighty a liter that seems cheap is that cheap i know it's

01:02:41.400 australian dollars but still that sounds sounds not too bad sounds way cheaper than here okay

01:02:47.780 okay i'll try and remember to do that for you luke because i know you're a super fan you send

01:02:52.320 in all sorts of super chats and rumble rants.

01:02:55.980 So I owe it you.

01:02:58.260 I'll look it up.

01:02:58.780 I'll try and remember to look it up.

01:03:00.280 Okay.

01:03:01.020 Tom Rat 247 says,

01:03:03.280 Morning Tenacious B.

01:03:04.800 Oh, I like that.

01:03:06.880 Tenacious B.

01:03:09.200 The greatest breakfast show in the world.

01:03:12.240 The problem is not the quality or quantity of government

01:03:17.060 everyone gets.

01:03:18.240 Everyone gets some punctuation.

01:03:22.320 sorry thank you for the rumble rant the problem is not the quality or quantity of government

01:03:29.120 everyone get everyone gets a say in but the quality and quantity of the plebiscite

01:03:37.200 but the electorate you mean make sure the quality of the voting public that we mean

01:03:43.440 this is why heinleinism fixes this all of it from highline who did starship troopers

01:03:50.560 i.e. you have to serve before you're allowed to be a citizen

01:03:54.360 you actually have to be engaged and understand what's going on

01:03:57.640 and have a vested interest in society

01:04:01.100 or you're considered eligible for a vote

01:04:05.440 broadly speaking it's not an insane concept is it

01:04:11.900 a lot of democracies in the past

01:04:14.080 most medieval and ancient democracies

01:04:16.240 went along those lines to some extent

01:04:20.340 that you needed, like ancient Athens, for example,

01:04:23.200 a property qualification or the Roman Republic.

01:04:26.420 Only once you owned property in the country

01:04:28.580 at a certain age and all sorts of other things.

01:04:33.520 Yeah, you've actually got a stake

01:04:34.960 in whether the country does well or not.

01:04:39.200 Rather than just complete universal manhood suffrage

01:04:41.900 and womanhood suffrage and 16-year-old suffrage.

01:04:46.740 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:04:48.720 But as you probably know, in real life, if you ever start talking about restricting the franchise in any way, most people go berserk at that, don't they?

01:05:00.760 Weird.

01:05:02.480 Okay, Pigdog5150 says, record-breaking high temperature today, going for a curry tonight, makes sense, hope they have aircon.

01:05:12.840 Does it make sense? I wouldn't be eating a hot food, much less spicy food in this weather.

01:05:18.720 I had a cold prawn and cucumber pasta salad with fresh dill in it for dinner last night.

01:05:27.640 Cold.

01:05:28.260 Lovely.

01:05:29.720 And I don't want a hot curry and it's spicy as well.

01:05:33.860 Although if they've got air con, you'll be probably all right.

01:05:37.520 Don't go for a vindaloo or a fowl though.

01:05:39.720 Surely not.

01:05:40.700 Surely not.

01:05:42.820 Right, Luke Stewart again.

01:05:44.040 to clarify about about the dollar 80 fuel i was paying i was paying cost the three dollars a

01:05:51.900 liter and then the government decided to cut a fuel tax slightly which had a big help i think

01:05:58.420 getting fuel from the u.s as well all right yeah i mean as i understand it australia has got

01:06:04.880 big untapped natural resources if they need

01:06:09.860 okay all right luke again or the next or the next three are all luke so i'll just read those out

01:06:20.640 says i find it funny when they bitch about carbon being released the two largest producers are in

01:06:26.720 india and china i think combined gets close to 60 percent of all emissions that yet they are

01:06:32.160 never blamed yeah i mean i don't accept that carbon dioxide drives climate change at all

01:06:39.860 And that man-made CO2, no.

01:06:42.740 And that it's nearly all China and India, but we have to change. 0.98

01:06:46.500 Yeah. 1.00

01:06:47.540 Stupid. 1.00

01:06:48.880 Stupid. 1.00

01:06:49.500 Crazy. 1.00

01:06:50.900 Okay, Luke again.

01:06:52.760 Hope someone is doing, hope everyone is doing well today.

01:06:55.780 Thursday is a hard to, Thursday is a hard to catch, I guess, watching the Bo Show.

01:07:00.960 As I'm currently working and only get bits and pieces of the show, I try and get the Q&A at the end.

01:07:06.760 Great.

01:07:07.400 Dedication.

01:07:07.800 Dedication is what you need.

01:07:09.860 Luke again says, I know a lot of people are excited.

01:07:13.000 They have the interior of schools and pride parades.

01:07:17.700 And they start playing that scene from American Psycho,

01:07:22.300 where he has the headset and pumped up kicks playing.

01:07:29.480 I have seen American Psycho a couple of times, but not in years.

01:07:33.900 I don't remember that scene exactly.

01:07:35.820 Okay.

01:07:36.020 And the last one here from Luke says, I'm talking about GTA 6.

01:07:39.860 apparently people are looking forward to the game for certain reasons wink oh i don't know

01:07:45.240 enough about it what's there to wink about i don't know i swear some of these memes they're

01:07:51.940 going to get us in onto a watch list sorry i can't really comment on that i don't know enough

01:07:59.140 about i don't know enough about it sounds like it's like spicy there's something some subtext

01:08:03.280 there uh all right all right and now the uh youtube ones let's have a look at the youtube

01:08:11.780 ones there's only a few okay billy mongerhan billy mongerhan says low just endorsed multiculturalism

01:08:22.820 and integration oh did he what on earth is going on with him this week trying to burn down the

01:08:28.300 party or does he think yank podcasts can't be viewed in the uk deus vault oh okay i didn't know

01:08:34.640 he endorsed multiculturalism and integration i mean i haven't seen this these clips so i can't

01:08:40.660 comment on it at this point maybe i'll comment on it tomorrow okay if true extremely disappointed

01:08:49.140 i did see clips of him yesterday brand new clips of him being super based

01:08:54.060 saying super base things

01:08:57.760 about demographic decline

01:08:58.920 so

01:09:00.200 what can I say

01:09:05.760 I haven't seen the clips yet

01:09:06.580 so I'll reserve judgment

01:09:07.980 on that

01:09:08.400 or reserve comment

01:09:09.840 anyway

01:09:10.140 okay

01:09:11.800 Martin Javier

01:09:13.940 said

01:09:14.780 says

01:09:16.580 are they

01:09:17.460 restitutor

01:09:18.440 restitutor

01:09:20.380 Britannia

01:09:21.520 are they

01:09:22.500 there's a youtube channel called songgun007 an old man advocating for the for the juke ideology

01:09:35.340 juke i don't know what that is in your version of britain how would a fifth columnist how would

01:09:42.900 a fifth columnist this deluded be treated i'm sorry i don't know what the juke ideology is

01:09:51.140 i've never heard of that i'm reasonably well versed in political philosophy again my master's

01:09:58.360 degree was basically political philosophy largely i've never i don't know what that is j-u-c-h-e

01:10:06.640 juge juge ideology sorry mate i don't know what that is i'll try and look it up well we'll look

01:10:12.880 it up sounds interesting the fifth columnist a deluded fifth columnist you know what

01:10:21.040 You know how they should be treated, of course.

01:10:29.220 Because of T's and C's, I can't go any further with that thought. 1.00

01:10:31.640 Okay, let's carry on.

01:10:33.240 Adam Waller says,

01:10:36.740 England need to find the skull of St. Oswald

01:10:40.380 and exploit its talismanic power.

01:10:43.160 It may be difficult getting it through the TSA, though.

01:10:45.380 the veneration of

01:10:52.160 relics

01:10:58.160 we haven't done that in England for a long time

01:11:03.880 perhaps we should

01:11:06.120 we've got nothing to leave at this point

01:11:07.500 okay

01:11:08.040 harem

01:11:09.980 harem bee express

01:11:12.460 oh harambee harambee express

01:11:16.760 says was in a 7.2 i guess earthquake i suppose you mean was in a 7.2 in vanuatu earlier this year 0.99

01:11:27.500 in the worst building in the entire country built by the chinese out of tofu 1.00

01:11:32.400 you weren't crushed under it i don't know if you're sort of just joking about there or whether 0.99

01:11:40.500 you really were in Vanuatu

01:11:41.900 and just about

01:11:44.460 survived a 7.2 earthquake

01:11:45.920 either way

01:11:46.780 glad you're okay

01:11:48.680 thanks for the super chat

01:11:50.500 quite blackpilled says

01:11:53.860 and this is

01:11:54.460 you put it in quotes

01:11:55.200 so someone's saying this

01:11:56.180 says

01:11:56.400 the notion that you were

01:11:58.820 a peaceable people

01:11:59.640 before the arrival

01:12:00.400 of the white man

01:12:01.340 is the most fanciful 0.93

01:12:02.360 fanciful lie of all

01:12:03.640 end quote

01:12:04.320 bury my heart

01:12:05.760 at wounded knee peak

01:12:06.940 oh

01:12:08.040 talk about Native American Indians

01:12:11.120 isn't it

01:12:11.740 I know that quote

01:12:13.740 it's from a drama

01:12:14.420 that was

01:12:14.960 the idea that the American Indians

01:12:17.740 were like this 0.99

01:12:18.640 they just couldn't buy our

01:12:21.180 all loving brotherhood

01:12:22.580 of American Indians

01:12:23.480 that never did any harm to anyone

01:12:25.100 and certainly didn't fight each other

01:12:26.740 it was only when the evil 0.99

01:12:28.500 white man colonist 0.99

01:12:29.520 from across the ocean

01:12:30.380 came along

01:12:31.360 yet no

01:12:33.740 they were just as warlike 1.00

01:12:35.860 as all other tribal peoples 1.00

01:12:37.480 i.e. very warlike even genocidal sometimes okay yeah luke stewart says gta 6 will have schools 0.95

01:12:47.600 and pride parades oh i see they're gonna make it oh okay i see sorry gta 6 will be crazy woke

01:12:54.800 gta 6 will have schools and will have schools and pride parades i think you can draw the

01:13:01.360 connection there right have a great day everyone probably not going to make tomorrow work okay

01:13:09.740 sorry to miss you hopefully you can catch up with it later in the day

01:13:14.360 okay yeah so people can

01:13:17.700 in gta6 you can do

01:13:22.440 things that are in very bad taste let's say that okay um two more xanothium

01:13:31.360 Zenothium says

01:13:33.260 Bo you can eliminate one news organisation

01:13:36.160 From the world which one do you choose

01:13:37.860 The BBC

01:13:38.260 The BBC

01:13:39.900 Easy easiest question I'll get today

01:13:42.540 Okay

01:13:44.600 And the last one here

01:13:48.040 From Tatum2733

01:13:50.180 Says

01:13:50.580 Juche

01:13:51.620 Juche it's a North Korean ideology

01:13:56.040 Okay I'm afraid I don't know about it

01:13:57.820 I must plead ignorance on that

01:13:59.700 I'm afraid 1.00

01:14:00.820 the north korean ideology oh oh just their oh oh just their type of communism like the 1.00

01:14:10.480 kim il-sung style oh okay okay right so we've got we've got a fifth columnist

01:14:20.440 doing that in england have we oh gross what did you say

01:14:24.260 about someone being deluded

01:14:28.460 i can't find it here now but okay yeah

01:14:33.220 songgun007 an old man advocating for north korean style ideology

01:14:41.500 in your vision of britain how would a fifth column this like this be deleted absolutely deported 0.62

01:14:48.680 they like if he likes north korean style communism go and live there you're in the 0.79

01:14:55.940 wrong country mate

01:14:57.140 you're in the wrong

01:14:58.700 country

01:14:59.240 subversive

01:15:02.180 a fifth columnist

01:15:03.000 an enemy

01:15:03.760 of our state

01:15:04.660 okay

01:15:07.940 that's the show

01:15:09.020 it's now 15 minutes

01:15:09.800 past nine

01:15:10.240 in the AM

01:15:10.740 British summer time

01:15:11.500 on Thursday the 25th

01:15:12.480 of June

01:15:12.760 in the year

01:15:13.060 of our Lord

01:15:13.300 2026

01:15:13.960 thank you for joining me

01:15:15.140 you've been the

01:15:15.540 glorious band

01:15:15.880 the chosen few

01:15:16.440 my band of brothers

01:15:17.120 and sisters

01:15:17.620 without you 1.00

01:15:18.880 it isn't a thing

01:15:19.400 it really isn't

01:15:20.240 try to make the best

01:15:20.840 of their head

01:15:21.220 try and keep cool

01:15:22.200 stating the obvious

01:15:23.100 unless you're in

01:15:25.380 southern hemisphere and it's winter if you're in britain try and uh try and keep cool heat

01:15:32.420 exhaustion heat stroke it's a real thing can be a little bit dangerous all right try and make the

01:15:38.540 best of your time i don't want to be too preachy about it until tomorrow then take care

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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - June 25, 2026

Breakfast With Beau ｜ Thursday 25th June 2026

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