00:00:00.000Hello and welcome to this interview. I'm Harry, joined today by a very special guest,
00:00:06.620quote, the most dangerous identitarian on the European right, Martin Selner, who's here to0.97
00:00:13.780talk today about his latest book, Remigration, published by Passage Press, and the general
00:00:20.220prospects of remigration and a positive identitarian movement across Europe. Thank you very much for
00:00:28.040joining me today, Martin. Thanks for having me. And it's great to have you too. So for people who
00:00:35.180aren't aware, you have been involved within identitarian movements, particularly in Germany
00:00:41.300and Austria for a very long time now. You have grown quite notorious. Not that I'm judging you
00:00:47.860for that at all. Question, are you still barred from Germany and Great Britain? Because I think
00:00:53.940I remember that Theresa May's government barred you from here. Is that still in effect?
00:00:58.040Yes, the United Kingdom, yes. Germany, not anymore. I've successfully fought the travel ban to Germany and Switzerland. And currently, I think I have a standing travel ban to the United Kingdom and to the United States of America.
00:01:12.280to the US as well, even under Donald Trump. That is quite shocking, but quite sad to hear. But
00:01:19.280we're able to still talk despite all of that, and we're able to still spread our ideas. So
00:01:24.460that is something positive about the information system that we have set up at the moment. So
00:01:30.340for those in the Anglosphere who may be less aware of you, because you're not able to come
00:01:37.820over here. You're more well known on the continent, as far as I can tell. Before we get into the
00:01:43.860details of your book, Remigration, which is being published in English, I believe, for the first
00:01:49.040time, how long have you been involved in remigration activism? And what got you involved
00:01:55.260in identitarianism, particularly given that you are of a German-Austrian background, given the
00:02:01.200whole politics of guilt and the holdover of the guilt holdover from the Second World War
00:02:09.080related to that, it must be quite difficult to break out of that politics growing up in Austria,
00:02:15.280growing up around other Germans. I'm interested in just a little bit of biography of how you0.99
00:02:20.440managed to get into it and how you managed to break out of the kind of mindset that modern
00:02:25.380Germany, modern Austria would want you to stay in. You're absolutely right here.
00:02:31.200Especially as an Austrian, like the amount of comments I get as an Austrian being very active in Germany.
00:02:37.300So you can imagine what people claim all the time.
00:02:41.060And yes, Germany and Austria have been hit maybe the hardest when it comes to the politics of guilt and white guilt and self-loathing.
00:02:48.940But this also, in a way, turbocharged the need for something new.
00:02:53.040So we have a new right-wing activist movement, Generation Identity, created 2012 in France.
00:02:58.560And then very recently after that, we imported it to Austria and I could play an important role, thank God, in spreading the whole movement across the continent.
00:03:08.040And some people might still remember the big actions we did.
00:03:11.820We chartered a boat and went to the Mediterranean to hinder human traffickers there.
00:03:17.240We blocked a smuggling pass in the Alps.
00:03:20.960But obviously, due to the success in 2020, we were totally nuked and vaporized.
00:03:26.640So I'm banned from any social media platform, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, and also I've been debanked 116 times.
00:03:35.980So this was the reaction, I would say, of the system to this new blend and to this new approach of activism, which was very successful.
00:03:44.560It means we are new rights, so we don't see ourselves in the footsteps of any totalitarian ideology of the 20th century.
00:03:50.460We always show our faces, our actions are always non-violent, non-aggressive, creative, sometimes even funny, like street theater.
00:03:58.940And also, in terms of our goals and our ideology, we focus on the most important issue, which is demography.0.83
00:04:06.360And since 2012, we have been raising the alarm for the great replacement, for replacement migration, and we've been demanding re-migration since 2016.
00:04:15.640And I'm very happy, very pleased, also very proud that by a combined effort, we made it possible that in spite of all the censorship, debanking, debatforming, re-migration really took off after COVID.
00:04:27.640So that's what we're doing. I'm an organizer, I'm an author, I'm an activist, and I see myself as a re-migration ambassador.
00:04:34.480Thank you. And with that, that is quite shocking, everything that's been done to try to censor you.
00:04:39.840Given the, as you say, demography and replacement migration of Europeans, particularly within their ancestral homelands, but also within the larger nations that they've set up elsewhere in places like the United States and even in places like Australia, that is the big issue.
00:04:57.240And they've tried very, very hard to censor you from speaking about it and doing anything about it, despite the fact that, like you say, your activism is specifically non-violent. You are trying not to hark back to any of the totalitarian movements of the 20th century on the left or right.
00:05:16.900Why is it that you think that despite that, you are still censored in this way by the regime and by the establishment?
00:05:26.000Why is it that just saying no to your own displacement is seen as the most dangerous thing in our current politics?
00:05:34.980I think it's not despite that, it's because of that.
00:05:49.780It's very hard to use us as a scarecrow to scare people away from the identitarian issue.
00:05:55.540And I think it was really due to our success and very successful approach
00:05:58.600that we were hit so heavily by the censorship hammer.
00:06:02.060And also, I think there's a very peculiar and important thing to identitarian activism and actions.
00:06:07.020We had a lot of YouTube channels, influencers online.
00:06:11.500But for us, the call to action is not so much subscribe, share and donate, but get active yourself.
00:06:19.300So I was trying to get people out of the online right sphere onto the street, onto the ground.
00:06:23.480We have training camps, summer training camps.
00:06:26.260We have rhetoric academies where people are being taught how to speak to journalists.
00:06:30.620We are organizing movements, sales everywhere in Germany on the continent.
00:06:36.180We're organizing big demonstrations because I think it's very important to not just talk online about the issue, not just report about it.
00:06:42.640It's very important, obviously, the Infowar, but we also need some ground game.
00:06:46.680And that's what Generation Identity stands for.0.55
00:06:49.440And obviously, as you said, it's crazy that today just standing up for your own identity, just loving your own people, it's okay to be white.
00:06:57.700Remember, this Genius Poster campaign is seen as the biggest crime.0.70
00:07:02.320But it also shows us, I would say, the big game plan of the globalists.
00:07:06.740The demographic replacement is irreversible.
00:07:10.020And I see everything else apart from the great replacement and re-migration as a distraction right now.0.98
00:07:15.360Because every other issue, economic issue, cultural issue, is, in my opinion, futile and completely worthless once we've become a minority-known nation.0.99
00:07:24.900Then we are facing a Lebanese scenario, a South African scenario, and we have a time frame of about 10 to 15 years to still prevent this in the UK, in France, in Germany.0.97
00:07:36.080And so that's why we're now totally focusing on this term.0.99
00:07:39.040We are organizing the Remigration Summit in Europe.
00:07:41.580We are organizing and unifying the whole remigration movement.
00:07:45.160We're offering policy ideas, but we also want the people who are watching this, the millions of Europeans who are now for remigration, to get active, to organize them.
00:07:54.340Because I think organization is the real acceleration.0.96
00:07:57.520Only if you organize people, if you can transfer the vibe, the virality, the memes into a real political lobby, a real movement, then we can achieve re-migration.
00:08:09.940You've actually presaged one of the questions that I was going to get to, which was that I was going to ask if you saw that there, because I see it sometimes as well, because I'm very active in the online spheres, of course, working the job that I do.
00:08:24.340And I see it all the time where there is an excess of energy online that doesn't always translate out onto the ground.
00:08:33.020Now, in Britain, there is the new party, Restore Britain, which was started by Rupert Lowe,
00:08:39.540who have been going out of their way to get people out and canvassing for things like the local Makerfield by-election
00:08:45.760that's going to be coming up very soon to see if they can get MPs in.
00:08:49.000and there seems to be a big swell of positive response to people wanting to get out and do
00:08:57.740that. So in the past, I suppose the question is, I've seen in the past that people get way
00:09:04.340too insular online. People get way too invested in just being online meme posters, and sometimes
00:09:10.680that can get them kind of down a negative place. I've indulged in it as well, where you go down
00:09:15.500edgy posting, and you think it's really cool getting loads of likes and retweets on Twitter
00:09:20.040because you said the edgiest thing that you could, well, that doesn't actually impact the real world.
00:09:25.920And in fact, it could negatively impact your future prospects by making you more difficult
00:09:30.440to work with because people don't want to be associated with that kind of presence.
00:09:33.980Do you see that kind of online insulation that people found themselves in and overindulging
00:09:40.560in edgy posting? Do you see that as something that's starting to fall away and people are
00:09:45.240getting more involved in the ground game,
00:09:47.040people getting more interested in taking it to the ground
00:09:49.740and doing things and organizing in a way that actually matters
00:10:08.860So everything that happens online, Discord, chat groups,
00:10:11.420can be totally surveilled and can also easily be manipulated.
00:10:15.240So in Germany, we know by a fact that all of these telegram chat groups are infiltrated.
00:10:20.920Many of these patriotic telegram groups are run by federal agents.
00:10:24.880There was an investigation by the AFD and we got this official information.
00:10:29.640So it's also very easy to infiltrate them and then to get them entangled in all kinds of criminal activity and in the end just to ban them.
00:10:39.240And also, I think we have been outmaxed the info on the online rights.
00:12:06.520So the first lobby for indigenous Europeans in Europe, because very often right-wingers complain about foreign lobbies, powerful lobbies who are influencing our government on foreign behalves.
00:12:17.700And I completely get this, but the only solution is to become a lobby ourselves.
00:12:22.400And we need to get away just from the attention economy, from dopamine clicks and likes.
00:12:26.980We need to create a real organization on the street with real people and we need to turn
00:12:32.240to a political lobby that can reward and also punish right-wing politicians if they embed
00:12:39.040our goals or if they water down our ideas once they're in power.
00:12:42.500So I think those are the most important strategic goals right now for the European and for the
00:12:48.200That's really exciting because you've actually, again, kind of foreshadowed something that
00:12:53.560I've been worried about for a long time, which is the idea that, and I suppose I'll have two
00:13:00.960questions off the back of this, so just bear with me for a moment if you'll allow me. I've been
00:13:06.340worried about the fact that in terms of organizational and patronage networks, the left
00:13:12.020has had the right outclassed at this point, or at least shall we say the non-establishment,
00:13:17.960non-containment right outclassed for decades at this point. The left have professional activist
00:13:24.980classes because they have organizations that will employ them and they will have patronage networks
00:13:31.160funded by billionaires, the most notorious of which of course being George Soros, who are more
00:13:36.000than happy to funnel as much money as is necessary into these organizations so that they can get
00:13:42.460their agenda put forward and made reality rather than just pure theory. The right's been good on
00:13:49.160theory for a long while, but that is somewhere where we've really needed to catch up. So it's
00:13:53.740really exciting to hear that you're involved in organizing something that is trying to create
00:13:59.020these networks and organize in a way that's going to be effective. So off the back of that,
00:14:04.500The questions will be, one, how do you attract patronage to a network like that? And two, how do you avoid the pitfalls of making it so that the patronage aren't simply trying to co-opt your own movement? Because there is also the threat if big money comes in, they have their own ideas and their own wants. How do you avoid being co-opted by that?
00:14:58.180So I think the right also needs incubators, fundraising networks and meetings where big money can come together and then this money can be distributed to diverse organizations.
00:15:10.960Obviously, I completely agree with you.
00:15:12.920With this, you also have some kind of at least a possibility of becoming dependent.
00:15:19.540But here, I think it's important to have full transparency.
00:15:22.520and in the end it's also very clear and it shows immediately whom you're working for by your
00:15:27.620positions about what you're doing so for example what we're doing is completely funded by private
00:15:32.920donations but these private individuals donate to us and support us because they like what we do
00:15:38.840and i think that's the most democratic thing ever and i think in the end it's for very important for
00:15:44.380these organizers to not become totally dependent on one big donor so for example also for institute
00:15:49.280I don't want one guy who totally bankrolls us.
00:15:52.720I'd rather have a swarm donations, crowdfunding of more, several, smaller donors.
00:16:39.280But now suddenly we have one term, like the left has socialism or communism.
00:16:43.680And we need to operationalize this and repeat this. We need to create terms, mantras, and repeat them over and over again, but on the European level. And then suddenly, our reach and also our impact, our velocity will completely explode. And it's also something you want to do with the Institute. So I think what we're lacking right now is not so much numbers, also not really money and funding. It will be there. It's always there. Once you have a great project, you always get the donors.
00:17:09.060What we really are lacking now is organization, people who are creating these ideas and trying to establish these networks.
00:17:16.380Yes, it's about getting positive slogans because, you know, like as much as it makes people like us cringe,
00:17:23.680diversity is our strength has been such a pervasive slogan that's permeated all of the media.
00:17:31.460and it's been to the point where you can probably get into an argument with somebody on the street
00:17:38.120who is a leftist and that is just a stock phrase that they will throw out to you because it's so
00:17:44.400it's an earworm and they've seen it everywhere so we we need like equally catchy like marketing
00:17:50.940as that once we're once we're all organized we've got re-migration and we need more off
00:17:57.380the back of that because that gets in people's minds and it solidifies the idea into something
00:18:03.500that they can just roll straight off the tongue. So that's great to hear. And on that, we'll talk
00:18:10.120about your book, Remigration. If I may just quickly add here, to really understand and grasp
00:18:16.380the huge success of the left is to look at the term like hate. If I will tell you right now,
00:18:21.500I'm organized in a network on NGO that fights online hate. You, even though you're a right
00:18:26.740would immediately assume I'm on the left. So they've managed this association, also repeated
00:18:32.420by us, to associate a term like hate, which is a negative emotion nobody likes, with a political
00:18:37.940conviction, with political arguments like shutting down the borders, reducing migration, revoking
00:18:43.840citizenship. This is now totally associated to this emotional term. And this didn't happen by
00:18:49.460accident, it happened by design. And I think that's also now something we need to fight back
00:18:53.860on this level. We need to create our own metapolitical, our own linguistic strategy,
00:19:00.960and then we all need to rally behind that, if we want to really conquer the debate. Sorry for...
00:19:06.000No, no, that's absolutely fine. You were right to put in there. That was a great point off the
00:19:10.820back of it, because you immediately made me think of you, probably very familiar with Hope Not Hate
00:19:15.320in Britain. They've probably targeted you, yourself, because you hear that and you know
00:19:22.720immediately who they are by the way that they are saying hope not hate means leftism not right wing
00:19:30.040not rightism is essentially what you could say that that is a synonym for. So we need to have
00:19:35.200our similar own slogans and monopolized terms where people will be able to hear it and have
00:19:41.380positive conversations towards us immediately spring into their mind. And on the back of that
00:19:47.320Again, let's move on to your book, Remigration, because I see your work, and thank you again for sending me a forward copy of it from Passage Press, the English translation of it.
00:20:00.640I understand that you wrote it a few years ago now, but this is the first time that it's been published in English.
00:20:05.580I found your work, having read this book now, to be some of the best analytical work in describing
00:20:13.220what the problems are and what needs to happen. In the same way that you've been doing with this
00:20:18.980discussion so far, any time that I was reading through and found that I might have an issue
00:20:24.760where, oh, he's going a bit vague here, I'm going to need to ask for some clarity regarding this
00:20:30.360point, the next paragraph or the next section of the book would have a very well-written and
00:20:35.680comprehensive answer to the question that I was going to ask. So I appreciate the fact that you
00:20:40.600are clearly in a very analytic mindset with that, and that's the kind of work that we need
00:20:45.560being done towards remigration efforts. But in it, I thought one of the most interesting things,
00:20:52.120and I think, again, it would be interesting getting your perspective as an Austrian here,
00:20:55.740is the fact that one of the first things that you discuss in the book is the idea of
00:21:00.960identitarian politics. And you state quite rightly that every politics has an identitarian
00:21:11.000aspect to it. A lot of politics is almost purely identitarian. And what we have been subject to
00:21:17.600since the end of the Second World War, particularly in your case as an Austrian and your next door
00:21:22.860neighbours in Germany has been a very negative identitarian policy. We've been fed a very
00:21:30.460negative view of our history. In your corner of Europe, that's been because of the Second World
00:21:36.340War and the Holocaust and other things that have been wielded against you and held over your head.
00:21:41.040In my country, in Britain, it's been the British Empire decolonisation. But you've been talking0.83
00:21:46.680about building a positive identitarian politics for Europeans. How have you found that within
00:21:55.020your native Austria? And what have you been finding to be successful strategies for getting
00:22:01.020particularly young people today to have a more positive view of their own identity, their own
00:22:06.780culture, and their own history without, again, leaning into or playing into any stereotypes the
00:22:12.560left might have of us just being racists and mindless bigots and hateful i think it's actually
00:22:19.760i'm very happy you mentioned this so thank you for that because i think that's one of the most
00:22:23.600important points of the book because obviously you have a lot of very good migration policies
00:22:28.540right now but very different my book it goes to the root or at least tries to go to this root
00:22:33.840to give you a view on the bigger picture as you said every nation has identity politics
00:22:40.640It's like politics is identity politics necessarily
00:22:43.560because politics comes from a community.
00:22:48.080The ruling of a community and a community needs a certain understanding
00:22:53.300of who they are and who the others are.
00:22:55.180And for that, you need to have an identity.
00:22:56.980And every nation also has a demographic policy, obviously.
00:23:00.740And the thing today is these are the only taboos in our society
00:23:03.560to talk about democracy, migration, birth rates,
00:23:24.420These two taboos, they are hidden away like the forbidden tree in the Garden of Eden.
00:23:32.100And that's exactly why we need to touch them.
00:23:34.200And we need to overcome this self-loathing because if you hate yourself and if the hatred of your own kind is institutionalized, every political measure to save this kind by increasing birth rates, by having a welcome policy for your own children is also in a way impossible because people say that's extremist, racist, national socialist in Austria.
00:23:58.960And remigration in the end is a software issue, not a hardware issue.
00:24:02.480So all the things about logistical ideas, about legal questions that are addressed in the book are secondary, primary.
00:24:10.400It's the questions overcoming this will to death and replacing it with a will to life.
00:24:15.600And the real strategy for this, I think you're completely right, is not to go back into an ideology of supremacy, into a real ideology of hatred.
00:24:24.160But, and that's what we offer as identarians, an idea of ethno-pluralism.
00:24:28.800So we accept all differences. We really like and appreciate different cultures.
00:24:34.320And what we want to defend is the right to exist for our own culture and to really increase and instill a love for your own nation and people in history and young people is to teach them this history.
00:24:46.220So what I really like about this new real and TikTok culture is when people really see the beautiful things of our past, the buildings, the battles, the heroes.
00:24:55.680That's amazing because we haven't been daughters at all.
00:25:21.180And this will instill a love to protect this because you can only protect and save what you love in the first place.
00:25:27.480So I think that's a very good strategy.
00:25:29.820But also I have to say, as an identitarian, it's important that doesn't tilt in the other extreme direction again into an ideology of supremacy and real hatred.
00:25:38.660Because I think this would make it very hard, in the end impossible, to have a real political change.
00:25:45.520So what we need to do is to love our nation.
00:25:47.620Our nation needs to totally come first.
00:25:49.200be completely proud of our ethno-cultural continuity, try to preserve it, but also respect
00:25:54.180all the others. And that's exactly what identitarian stands for.
00:25:59.820Well, that's fantastic. And I mean, that's what you're talking about with reminding people where
00:26:05.880we come from, our history, our achievements, our culture. It reminds me, I did an interview earlier
00:26:10.920this year with Dr. Ricardo Duchesne, the Canadian professor on his book, Greatness and Ruin, which
00:26:17.060was going through the various different achievements that Europeans have created
00:26:23.660over the millennia. It's kind of similar to Charles Murray's book on human accomplishment,
00:26:30.200where he's talking about human accomplishments and the development of all of these different
00:26:34.840philosophies and sciences and practice. And music is one of my big ones, being a musician myself.
00:26:40.380and one of the interesting things about it is part of the problem of how we've got to where
00:26:48.080we are particularly with this negative identity politics is that part of a kind of an imperial
00:26:55.540globalizing mindset that our elites have gotten into since the end of the second world war
00:27:01.580seems to have been a project to universalize all of our accomplishments and bring the rest of the
00:27:08.660world into them, which seems to be a very strangely pathological altruism. You breach into
00:27:16.280sub-Saharan Africa and you see that the people there have not reached the same civilizational0.80
00:27:21.240heights that we have, so we need to bring them over to here and bring them up to what we consider1.00
00:27:27.160to be our standards and our levels, and we have to sacrifice everything of our own, including our
00:27:32.440own identity to do so. It's this weirdly Europeanized and Eurocentric view of how the
00:27:38.520rest of the world can do better. We have to go into Africa and make them into kind of like1.00
00:27:44.040idealized African versions of Europeans. It's a very strange idea, but this kind of0.81
00:27:51.520universalizing tendency could be one reason that we've got here. Well, what you're saying is that
00:27:57.380we can recognize the achievements of Europeans, and I really did find reading that book very
00:28:02.180instructive on just reminding me how much as a broader people that we've all achieved.
00:28:08.760But we don't have to hold everybody else to be like, you're worse because you have not been0.53
00:28:15.200European. We don't have to kind of flatline every other culture and turn it into the gray sludge1.00
00:28:21.820as globalization has. And that is one idea on why we're facing mass migration right now,
00:28:30.320this kind of universalist, globalist project that's kind of an offshoot of old-fashioned
00:28:35.720European imperialism. But similarly, to understand how to solve the problem, we do need to understand
00:28:42.040the causes. So from your own perspective, what do you see as the causes of our current suicidal
00:28:49.420trajectory with mass immigration into Europe, into Australia and New Zealand and America0.96
00:28:55.780and Canada? Would you see it as being this kind of misplaced universalizing tendency,
00:29:01.920some kind of misplaced white guilt over the Second World War and imperialism?
00:29:07.020Some would suggest that it would be an economic reason, the idea that the globalist capitalist
00:29:12.580class wants to simply chase profits and wants to turn people into consumers. What do you see
00:29:17.920the reason? I think you hit really the nail on its head. And that's also my own analysis. I've
00:29:27.000also been writing about this, thinking about it. So what actually interests me is philosophy. I also
00:29:32.800did my bachelor in philosophy and was really studying those issues because I really wanted
00:29:37.660to understand where does this death wish come from? Because obviously it's too big. It's too
00:29:42.920global. Every post-Christian white and only the post-Christian white civilizations are affected0.87
00:29:48.280by it. So it cannot be the propaganda of the victors of Second World War, which initially a0.70
00:29:53.660lot of people fought in Germany because it also hits the victors of Second World War. And also
00:29:58.500distinct groups who are profiting from the Great Replacement and from the self-destruction of0.54
00:30:04.000white people. Yes, they might have a role and you can talk about this, but again, it's too global
00:30:09.520into strong and all these interest groups have been existing also hundreds of years and suddenly
00:30:14.160this is happening so i think it really you have to go back into the history of ideas and i think this
00:30:20.400self-hatred is again a hidden universalism a hidden idea of still supremacism in a way even
00:30:28.560because you had a lot of um i would say uh like waves of universalism religious universalism
00:31:04.980So what I think to overcome white guilt, we need to throw out this idea of being chosen, of being the center of the universe, the center of history.
00:31:13.400We need to throw off the white man's burden in a way.
00:31:16.680So we need to find ourselves again and we need to understand we don't have to have this universalistic mission and this universalistic responsibility to justify our own existence.
00:31:26.400Because the problem is, and this also really happened in the past of Europeans, that these missions and also our power and our state of the world was mostly and sometimes only justified by this universalistic abstract mission that we did.
00:31:42.240And once this mission was gone, suddenly we had no sense to live anymore and also no justification to exist anymore.0.61
00:31:48.620And now in the nihilistic, materialistic state of the European, suddenly all of this is turned against ourselves.0.87
00:31:54.820So we are still on the top of the hierarchy, but we're on the top of the guilt, on the top of the evilness hierarchy, so to say.0.84
00:32:05.120But still, this gives us a very strong identity.
00:32:08.200So in the end, it's an identitarian question because we need to find a different identity, a different sense, a different purpose as English people, as German people, as white and European people in the world, apart from universalism.0.54
00:32:20.360And the real reason, I think, why guilt and this ideology of guilt is so popular among Europeans is it gives you a very strong sense of identity.
00:32:30.240And today, if you grow up and go to a German university, either you become a post-identitarian global citizen of the world, a businessman, you know, who only takes care of himself.
00:32:42.380Or if you're looking for a purpose, if you're looking for a purpose, what does it mean to be German European?0.68
00:32:47.440You immediately encounter this ideology of guilt, which gives you a very strong identity.0.86
00:32:51.820And suddenly it means something to be German again.0.82
00:32:54.580So in the end, this guilt is very identitarian, very folkish, even to say so,
00:32:59.240because it is directly linked to your own biological heritage and your ethnocultural history.
00:33:08.520We need to find a different identity that really overcomes this expansive universalistic ideology and, again, throws off the white man's burden.
00:33:17.960Because we don't have to justify our existence by having the major role in any kind of universalistic global operation.
00:33:30.080It's very interesting how you pointed out how it's almost like it's the new German, it's the new Austrian reason for being the folkish concept that unites you all, that you can recognize by biology.
00:33:46.140Because I'm sure that you, like we, we get new British people in all of the time.
00:33:52.120You get new Germans and new Austrians into your country all of the time.
00:33:56.080But I'm sure if it ever came to, and I'm sure if you pointed out, well, this person arrived here yesterday, he's not Austrian, that people would act with shock and horror, are you even suggesting such a thing? But if you were to then suggest, well, if he is just as Austrian as me, then he should feel just as guilty as the rest of us about the Second World War, all of a sudden, they would know straight away, wouldn't they?
00:34:17.320Exactly. Sometimes I troll left-wing journalists when they ask me, what is a real German? How do you define a real German? And my answer is, a real German is somebody who feels guilty for his past.
00:34:33.580Yeah, but it's like in Britain, like we get the new British and then we're told, oh, they're just as English as the rest of us. And we got told with Rishi Sunak as prime minister, we were told, oh, he's English.
00:34:45.820And then you point out then, OK, so given that he's of Indian background but is also English, is he owed £45 trillion in reparations or does he owe India £45 trillion in reparations?
00:35:02.460Which is it? And I think when you ask a question like that, you suddenly get your answer very quickly.
00:35:08.000But it's interesting how we talk about how it's all based around this politics of guilt because you talk about the different problems that would be resolved through a program of remigration across all of Europe.
00:35:20.820And that would be economic, that could be structural, that could be housing issues, that could be environmental issues.
00:35:27.400But one problem that we see faced by young people especially every single day these days, it's been commented on by so many people, is the mental health crisis.
00:35:36.820So many young people are growing up with this horrible self-image, they've got anxiety,
00:35:42.180and there are any number of reasons that experts will point towards for why that is. But one that
00:35:48.500they always count out is the overbearing psychological weight of this sense of guilt
00:35:53.960that's foisted on them from a very young age. So one of the positive aspects of a positive
00:36:00.120identity movement would be that you're able to alleviate that psychological weight that's keeping
00:36:06.660that's keeping so much pressure on you all the time. There's been studies done into it,
00:36:10.580remarked on by people like Paul Bloom, that white people do feel this overbearing sense of anxiety
00:36:19.160because when they're confronted with multiculturalism and they know that there are all of
00:36:23.720these rules that they have to follow or else they're a terrible racist person, it causes them
00:36:28.220a great deal of psychological turmoil. And this is just accepted as pass and parcel and almost
00:36:33.400normal and good that white people should. So if they're able to get into a positive identity0.93
00:36:38.600movement instead, that will make them feel a lot better. That's one of the benefits that we can
00:36:44.220get. But people would fight back against you if you even suggested that they should be able to
00:36:49.720feel good about themselves. So in your experience, again, as an Austrian, it's interesting to hear
00:36:56.060your experience because you would have possibly even greater pushback on such a thing than we do
00:37:01.740in Britain. For people watching this, what kind of tips and pointers, advice can you give them to
00:37:08.000speak to somebody who they would like to help lift this burden from them? What's kind of worked
00:37:14.740with you when you've spoken to people about a positive view of themselves and their own history?
00:37:20.840That's also a very important point. I write about this also in my book. There's a German
00:37:25.300psychologist, one of the major psychologists, and he released a study after his retirement,
00:37:31.560Professor Ulrich Schmidt-Denter, and this was a study also published in the journal
00:37:35.780about the effects of the Holocaust education, that's how we call this part of education,
00:37:42.060on Germans without a migration background.
00:37:44.500And he has done hundreds and thousands of in-depth interviews with young German students.
00:37:50.660And he showed that after this education starts, it also goes into slavery, crusades,
00:37:58.320You know, it's kind of a whole guilt education.
00:38:01.000The identification with the nation totally drops.
00:38:04.940And guilt rises, and there were questions like, if you were to be reborn, would you like to be reborn as a German?
00:38:13.920Didn't happen with Germans with migration backgrounds, with migrants.0.93
00:38:17.580They're completely immune to that.0.97
00:38:18.920So obviously, the German identity, this community is completely shut down in a way and destroyed and atomized while the identity of the migrants is being boosted.0.95
00:38:32.780And it's happening systematically in Germany.0.97
00:38:35.820And when you may be familiar with Jonathan Haidt, the psychologist, the Righteous Mind,
00:38:40.680that he described these people, these weird people, these Western-educated intellectual
00:38:44.060people who are lacking the moral framework for loyalty, ancestry, and the sacred.
00:38:50.500And these three moral arguments are being shut out.
00:39:29.940To have a healthy individual identity, you have to be part of a bigger and greater political
00:39:34.700group that's obviously been the case and this um psychological development is willfully disturbed0.55
00:39:41.940and destroyed for white european people especially in austria and germany so the way to deal with
00:39:48.140this has to be very soft um like very strategic and piece by piece and part by part try to lead
00:39:54.700people out of that and one thing that has been proven successfully for me as i said i started
00:39:58.940philosophy so i i was very deep into enemy territory was to make people understand that
00:40:03.920actually what they are perpetuating with this ideology is still a kind of universalism.
00:40:10.880It's still kind of universalistic pride.
00:40:14.000It's called guilt pride in Germany because they're still proud.
00:40:16.900They still think they're superior.0.66
00:40:19.020So they're not the superior biological people, but now they have a superior and unique guilt,
00:40:24.200which is not matched by any other people in the world.0.88
00:40:26.860So it's still a very German way of thinking.0.95
00:40:28.880And if people understand that this is a political religion, that this is not rational, that they have been brainwashed in a way that they've been taught to think like that, then very often, once they're awakened, it's very easy for them to step out.0.96
00:40:45.420So I would say like step by step, you have to make people understand that it's a huge ideology has been pushed upon them.
00:40:51.100It's a political religion. It's not a rational or moral mindset.
00:40:55.940And also, obviously, and that's something I also write about in the book, it's not even helping.
00:41:00.120It's not even helping the rest of the world.0.95
00:41:02.500White people destroy themselves by mass migration, like suicide, Harakiri with third world replacement migration.0.99
00:41:10.300It will not help the third world. It will not help Europe.0.99
00:41:15.860So it's also very, I would say, reckless and unfair to do this as white people because we not only have good things to give to the world, we also have a responsibility to the world.0.77
00:41:26.780And this responsibility doesn't mean to send our money anywhere, to import millions of non-Europeans.0.57
00:41:32.840It means managing and helping to manage and contain the dangers that we also created because we have created a whole modern world from AI to the Internet, to atomic bombs, to very dangerous ideologies, from liberalism to communism, fascism.0.94
00:41:48.560All of this is a creation of white people.0.77
00:41:50.240If white people now just opt out and leave the rest of the world with all these dangerous technological and psychological tools, I would also say it's very reckless.0.90
00:41:59.460So appealing again, obviously, as an argumentative strategy to this idea of having a purpose that goes beyond ethnocentrism.0.83
00:42:09.000That's all very interesting. And when you say about how it doesn't benefit the rest of the world as well,
00:42:14.160one of the striking statistics that you cite near the end of your book is that I believe it was an African demographer
00:42:21.720was going around and asking people, a representative sample, if they would consider moving to Europe
00:42:28.980or outside of Africa. And about 70%, 70, 80% of the respondents all said that they would be
00:42:37.360interested of moving outside of Africa for economic reasons, for cultural reasons, for whatever reason
00:42:43.160given. And you have to ask yourself at that point, what does Africa even look like? Let alone what
00:42:51.280does Europe look like if we have 200 million Africans, North and sub-Saharan Africans living
00:42:57.640on the continent? Never mind our infrastructure, our culture, all of the difficulties that it would0.97
00:43:03.020lead to us, the increased crime and whatnot. What does Africa look like after that happens? What1.00
00:43:09.320happens to the people who get left behind? Because that's not going to be elderly folk who aren't1.00
00:43:16.760able to make the journey moving out that's going to be young people that's going to be young people
00:43:22.800who've possibly studied as doctors and such this is a big problem in places like Nigeria all of
00:43:28.520their doctors just move to Europe and to Britain like what happens to those countries and at which0.51
00:43:33.940point like you get into this bizarre train of thought where it's like well if all of Africa
00:43:38.440ends up just emptying itself out into Europe to Europeans kind of reverse and just go like there's
00:43:44.640there'll be massive contingents of Europeans who go, well, it's free real estate and move down to
00:43:49.720the tropics. And then do they all just start filtering back that way again when you end up0.89
00:43:54.880with like a South Africa situation where you have like a potential nuclear power on the horn of
00:44:00.740Africa and then all of a sudden they all go, well, we want to work and live there. Like you lead to
00:44:05.240some bizarre situations that you think of, or does everything just get worse and everybody lives in
00:44:11.000squalor for the rest of history. It's these bizarre thought experiments, but that's just something
00:44:16.980that crossed my mind then. Returning to your book, during your answer you were mentioning
00:44:23.620people of non-migration background in Germany, which is just another ridiculous euphemism that
00:44:30.840we get for German people. And we don't quite have that yet in Britain, but I can imagine it0.99
00:44:36.620developing in that direction. So in your book on the question of the remigration policy and the
00:44:43.800actual logistics of it you speak of who would qualify for remigration and this is a very very
00:44:49.940important question because we need to be clear about it for how we make our own plans and how
00:44:56.180we sell this to people as well when we are lobbying and when we are speaking to politicians
00:45:01.300and other influential people and you identify three different types in your book, which is type
00:45:06.620A, which are asylum seekers. Immediately, obviously, they would need to have their claims reassessed0.98
00:45:12.440and if their asylum claims are not accepted, they would just immediately be put onto the
00:45:19.060remigration list. You have other foreigners and then you have group C, non-assimilated naturalized
00:45:26.340citizens who clearly, because they have been naturalized, would be the most difficult. And1.00
00:45:31.200this brings the question of how does a migrant qualify as assimilated? How do you avoid accusations
00:45:38.760from the media and politicians about this being a purely biologically and racially discriminatory
00:45:45.180bigoted policy on how you're qualifying assimilated? So can you tell the audience how assimilation
00:45:52.980qualifies, how you would be able to tell if somebody is assimilated, and the likelihoods
00:45:58.880of different peoples from different cultures assimilating into German or other European
00:46:37.160I was really thinking about naming this third group, non-assimilated, naturalized citizens.0.89
00:46:45.080But I think a re-migration concept that doesn't even talk about this problem is not serious because we have the problem that the boomer, the generations before us, have been mass naturalizing people who have nothing to do with this nation.0.86
00:47:01.280So first, to understand the identitarian approach to assimilation, I think assimilation needs to be the goal of any kind of long-lasting immigration.0.69
00:47:12.700but it doesn't mean obviously that everybody can be assimilated means that in the first place if
00:47:17.600you want to get migrants here who are here to stay and in later term need to become citizens
00:47:21.720you have to think in beforehand how much assimilation capacity you have in your nation
00:47:26.860for different nationals and different arrivals and this differs absolutely between different
00:47:33.520cultures and backgrounds they've seen this in america with the immigration act before the
00:47:38.180Hard Seller Act, where Americans said, OK, yes, we want immigration.
00:47:43.140They didn't like Germans to stay German or Italians to stay Italian.0.89
00:47:46.660But we want to preserve the demographic makeup of America.0.77
00:47:49.980And that's why we have a fixed number.0.50
00:47:51.760And then we have certain quotas for people from different nations who could come in.
00:47:55.640And I propose the same concept for every European nation.0.90
00:47:58.080So we need to find out how much immigration do we want in the first place, a fixed number.0.75
00:48:03.360And then this number, percentage, how much people we want from Scandinavia, from Italy.0.81
00:48:09.720And obviously, we now have a perfect data set, an example of how much people we can stomach and take into our society.1.00
00:48:15.820We have made very bad experience with non-European migrants.1.00
00:48:18.720And obviously, here, there needs to be a total stop of migration, a stop of naturalization.1.00
00:48:23.300I would say a process of remigration.0.97
00:48:25.000And in this third group, I think there's kind of a heritage that we need to deal with, which we also cannot just get rid of.0.71
00:48:34.640Because, again, I stress it here, as in my book, every citizen has the rights, the same rights in front of the state.
00:48:41.580And you cannot just treat citizens differently based on the religious background or based on their appearance or based on any other criteria.
00:48:49.360If you promote this, it's very important to understand this, you might just as well promote a dictatorship doing away with democracy and overthrowing the current system.
00:49:00.100Because this would take away isonomia, which is the basic idea of democracy because everybody is equal in front of the law.
00:49:06.340So if I would promote this, then there could be a lefty guy who would promote, yeah, we take away the right to vote for all the people who don't have a democratic and hateful mindset.
00:49:17.920So we have a database of people who have committed hate crimes, and all these people lose the right to vote.
00:49:24.020It would be, in a way, the same proposal.
00:49:26.740And if you start proposing taking away the right to vote or taking away the basic rights of citizens, of people who are citizens, then you are advocating for the destruction of this democratic system.
00:49:38.380If you want to do that, that's your choice, but you have to be very aware of that.
00:49:42.660I have a reform, an evolutionary proposal.
00:49:45.900So, re-migration is very different from Group A, B to C.
00:49:49.860And in Group C, it does not involve deportations because I don't call for the deportations of citizens.0.95
00:49:55.880But what I'm calling for is stopping the mass naturalization process, revoking the citizenships where it's possible for dual citizens or people who have been betraying the system.0.59
00:50:08.300Just one example, in Germany, the socialists want to revoke citizenships up to 10 years after giving them out.
00:50:15.900For people who are anti-Semitic, the SPD, the Socialist Party said 10 years after you became a German citizen, we take it away.
00:50:23.260If you show signs of anti-Semitism, why not 20 years afterwards, if you sign show signs of anti-German opinions.
00:50:32.760So there were a lot of ways to change the law here.
00:50:35.360But obviously, the most important point that I propose here, my proposal is what I call in German light culture, positive pressure.
00:50:45.900Pressure to either assimilate or to remigrate and also voluntary incentives of people to go back to a different nation, to a different country where they fit in culturally.
00:50:55.180And I think if you do this in the long term, if you stop mass naturalization right now, today, and from tomorrow on, you have this inversion of push and pull factors.
00:51:05.800You have voluntary incentives of going to a different country and you have an economic and cultural pressure.0.95
00:51:11.940these ghettos, these parallel societies, will slowly start to decrease.0.96
00:51:15.660A lot happened in one year or five years, but I think maybe two or three decades.0.88
00:51:20.700But it's also the time that it took for these parallel societies to develop.
00:51:39.880Yeah, and on that kind of pushing people, well, lightly pushing people back through a positive cultural change, one of the interesting things is obviously near the end of the book you give a few case studies and you say that they're not really applicable.
00:51:59.540but you show that it is possible for there to be a remigration without there being mass violence
00:52:07.780because a lot of people worry that there's going to be civil war that breaks out or that there's
00:52:12.140going to be some kind of mass violent pushback from these large populations of migrants who've
00:52:18.240come into our countries over the decades and the example that you gave that seemed
00:52:22.840most relevant to this non-violent pushback was Fiji which I wasn't actually aware quite
00:52:30.700before I read the example that you gave of Fiji of just how far it had gone with the amount of
00:52:37.340Indians who had moved there following the following decolonization of the British Empire0.76
00:52:42.760because of course we moved them over there as a form of labor they stayed after decolonization
00:52:47.840they brought their family members over, I didn't realize that they had gone quite so far as to be
00:52:55.060able to establish themselves as the ruling political majority by one point before the
00:53:00.900native Fijians were able to reassert control and enact a peaceful non-violent policy that meant
00:53:09.860that it went from being the majority demographic within Fiji to I believe the figure that you gave
00:53:15.020in the book was 25-26%, which does show to people who are sceptical of the idea, who are perhaps
00:53:24.300blackpilling about our current situation, that there are examples of this sort of thing doing.
00:53:28.860What we want to avoid is it from turning into a situation like you point out in Algeria,
00:53:34.100with the French being pushed out of Algeria, which was a violent situation, which did lead to
00:53:39.660people being attacked and dying. I think everybody wants to avoid that and we want to avoid the image
00:53:46.140of that. But onto some of the other proposals that went off of the back of that, you established the
00:53:53.060idea in chapter five of where these people would be held when they're on the way out.
00:54:00.320You would establish an assimilation department, I believe was the term. I might be getting the
00:54:05.040exact term for it wrong, but a department of government that would be able to look into these
00:54:10.460things and have objective criteria that they can assess by. And you also say that there would be
00:54:16.120model cities. You could get into bilateral agreements with North African states to create
00:54:23.400model cities wherein people could work. They would be able to stay there for a number of years
00:54:30.020before returning to their home countries. This is particularly important, as you point out,
00:54:33.860for people who are asylum seekers where we are uncertain of their actual background. So we do
00:54:41.240not initially have a country to return them to. And you point out things like biometrics would
00:54:48.080be used to catalogue these people and help to trace their backgrounds. Now, a lot of people
00:54:53.480might hear those sorts of proposals and be worried that you're ushering in, particularly with stuff
00:54:58.700like biometrics, people get very worried about this. Some kind of techno-feudalism, that these
00:55:04.420ideas of big organizations like Palantir, who want to use AI to catalogue people, potentially
00:55:11.020control people through the data that they collect, that you'd just be giving them a leg up, that you
00:55:16.820would be, they would be using re-migration as a front to be able to get their agenda through.
00:55:22.380How would you address anybody who might have those kinds of concerns so that they don't have to worry that that could be a potential in that situation?0.97
00:55:36.440Why I mentioned biometric data is because these people always claim they've lost their password or a dog ate their password.
00:55:43.120And so there's no way to find out how old they are, where they actually come from.
00:55:46.880So we need borders and fences outside to have freedom inside.
00:55:52.380And I want to use all of this surveillance technology, drones, biometric data, fences for the outside to save our borders and to save our high trust societies that inside our high trust societies, we need less surveillance and less of this techno-frutalism.0.91
00:56:08.740But if you don't stop the demographic replacement, the ethnic fragmentalization of society, then you'll have it everywhere.0.86
00:56:15.580Cameras everywhere, biometric data everywhere in our society, because we need to recreate the fences.0.96
00:56:20.920We don't have the border within and between our own gated communities.
00:56:25.180And that's going to happen if we don't move the violence to control the checkpoints outside to our border.
00:56:35.940By doing this, we prevent our society from becoming this low-trust society, this atomized society that then needs police control everywhere and surveillance everywhere.0.60
00:56:45.080And just to rectify this, I was talking about a demographics and assimilation monitor.
00:56:50.920Because the problem is at the moment, we don't have the data.
00:57:19.400We need to see exactly what migration did to our nation in the past decades because we need this data to make a good decision for the future.
00:57:28.640And then re-migration can really start with measured numbers and with a clear plan because a lot of those things in my book have to be speculation because they're just hiding all the numbers from us.
00:57:39.660And these Model Cities you mentioned, I was not too radical by bringing them up.
00:57:44.720I was too early because just recently in the European Parliament, they made a vote and
00:57:49.700they had a majority, the conservatives and the right-wing populists, for so-called return
00:58:22.300Because I would say 99.9% of migrants who came to Europe came to Europe for economic reasons.
00:58:29.140They couldn't care less about British politics.
00:58:31.700They couldn't care less about German culture, Italian cuisine.0.80
00:58:35.020They came here solely for economic reasons.1.00
00:58:36.800And that's why there will be also an early mover bonus for countries to start re-migration first.0.94
00:58:44.120So, for example, if Austria starts re-migration before Germany, you only need to slightly invert the push and pull factors.
00:58:51.780And a majority of the illegals, of the non-contributing migrants or even non-assimilated citizens will leave to Germany.
00:58:59.580Because there's a huge inter-European mobility of migrants who are here.
00:59:03.360And this already shows that they have no real connection to the land.1.00
00:59:06.440to the culture they just go where they get the most benefit from the system and if you reduce
00:59:11.480the benefit and you create a different offer by moving to a to a return hub or to a to the homeland
00:59:17.980many people take this offer and those who really don't do it some of them might stay and really
00:59:22.960assimilate so i don't i don't cross this out at all it will happen but you need to create the
00:59:27.540circumstances where we keep our ethnoculture continuity where indigenous europeans stay
00:59:32.820the dominating majority in the nations, because without that, what's even the point of a British
00:59:38.640parliament, of a German parliament, without a British or a German people? Yeah, that's great.0.99
00:59:44.080And that's good to hear about the surveillance, because I think that should help to alleviate
00:59:51.000some people's worries regarding that. Because there is an argument to be made as well, that by
00:59:56.400destabilizing society to the extent that it has, has been part of the push for mass surveillance
01:00:04.520states, because it justifies it, because it allows them to say, well, crime rates are up so much,
01:00:10.260there are so many more assaults, particularly on women, we have all of this chaos through society,
01:00:15.520so we're going to need to implement a kind of 1984 Orwellian state. But also, you mentioned
01:00:22.880the the economics of it that the Denmark study showed that for basically anybody who isn't an
01:00:29.600inter-European migrant that they're for Denmark at least and you would expect that this would be
01:00:36.080similarly replicated across most of Europe and we let you say we have these figures they just
01:00:42.040don't release them to us or they hide them away from us within other figures that there would be
01:00:47.020that there's basically no economic benefit to a lot of these people coming because they cost
01:00:51.840the state money. And you're starting to see positive developments within Europe where,
01:00:57.780as you mentioned, they're starting to set up these return hubs, which does suggest that there is,
01:01:03.960even within bureaucrats, an appetite for this. What do you say to big business having been
01:01:13.100part of the reason for these people being brought in as an attempt to expand the labour pool,
01:01:19.140to decrease labour costs and to weaken unions. I've been reading an interesting book recently
01:01:26.560which pointed out that in the 1980s in Britain you had Margaret Thatcher crushing the unions0.52
01:01:32.840and then 10 years later you have Tony Blair starting to open the floodgates for mass immigration
01:01:39.040into this country which do seem to be a continuity of one another because all of a sudden you have
01:01:44.100the economic argument, well we need these people because they're not doing these jobs that you
01:01:47.840don't do anymore. And the reason you're not doing these jobs is because you smashed the unions and
01:01:51.540made it so that these jobs are economically unviable for people. And following Brexit,
01:01:58.360we had people like Lord Wolfson arguing that we needed migrants from all across the Commonwealth,
01:02:07.280and that was one of the reasons that he was for Brexit after we left the European Union.
01:02:12.560Does there need to be some kind of agreement entered into with business?
01:02:17.700We obviously have the public-private partnership in a lot of governments across the West right now.
01:02:23.640Does that partnership need to be adjusted so that business knows that it can have a certain degree of freedom
01:02:30.460without having as much influence to bring these people in to benefit their own bottom line at the expense of the nation?
01:02:37.300absolutely i think that's a power of the concept of remigration it's also against
01:02:44.100legal replacement migration not only talks about the gdp but also about the cultural cost the cost
01:02:50.000to the social capital i'm sure you're aware with this term and the study of robert putnam
01:02:53.340of mass migration it costs it has a social cost a community cost diversity ethnic diversity has a0.98
01:03:01.060lot of negative side effects the lower class the middle class suffers from and not the anywheres0.99
01:03:06.800The people who can move everywhere and who are, as Collier wrote in his book Exodus, parasitic in the nature to these societies and to the social capital.
01:03:16.740And it's also very interesting you mentioned Thatcher.
01:03:19.540The same thing, the very same thing happened in Germany and Austria.
01:03:23.680The first betrayal by the conservatives, they brought in the guest workers to crush the socialists and to crush the workers' unions.
01:03:31.340And then the socialists naturalize all of them to get new voters in, make them dependent on tax money. Two acts of betrayal, both in their own interest, both against the British and against the German people.
01:03:43.680And here's another very important argument that people should really learn by heart for conversations with advocates of legal immigration.
01:03:52.960it's the most inhumane and the most unfair thing you can do
01:03:56.900because for this few really skilled migrants you're getting in1.00
01:04:00.560you're destroying their homelands.0.57
01:05:15.620So to answer this question, yeah, I think that also legal migration and also the business and also the great enterprises have played a very important negative role here.
01:05:27.780Not only communists and socialists, but again, it's white guilt again what it comes down to because we also have those businesses in Japan.0.82
01:05:35.240We also have a trade union in Japan and they always want to get more migrants in the businesses.
01:05:40.300but there you don't have this self-hatred and the national consensus there is we want to stay
01:05:45.700Japanese. So again, coming back to white guilt as the root cause. Yeah, you are starting to see
01:05:52.420some kind of complaint of more migrants being brought in with Japan, but they have a much
01:05:58.560more robust defense mechanism than so much of Europe has had for such a long time. They immediately
01:06:05.180all at the same time, they start to see a trickle of 3,000 Kurds come into the country,1.00
01:06:12.000and they go, nope, we don't want any more of that, and they start voting in such a way to1.00
01:06:17.800try and prevent that from continuing in the future. Sorry, I've lost my train of thought
01:06:29.440for a moment then. So we're going to wrap up in a moment. So before we do, what do you currently
01:06:37.000see as the greatest challenges facing re-migration efforts across all of Europe? And what can the
01:06:44.580people watching this right now start to do to improve the situation, to start organizing and
01:07:49.460We can reconquer our states, our institutions.1.00
01:07:52.960We can pull the lever, close the gates, start re-migration, and keep our civilization.1.00
01:07:58.920If we miss this one chance, these states get slipped out of a grasp and these states will turn into prisons for us.0.99
01:08:05.360Like South Africa has turned into a hostile prison for white people because the state will be ruled by an Islamo-communistic migration coalition together with big business against the last white people.0.85
01:08:17.960And then we only can create our own little communities like the Amish, like the Mormons, or maybe even flee those death zones and try to establish new colonies somewhere else.0.90
01:10:02.640we ever had since the second world war
01:10:04.700for real political and cultural change across Europe.
01:10:08.860Certainly, and it will give people's lives a bit more meaning
01:10:11.800if they're able to throw themselves into this
01:10:14.060rather than just being the consumers, the mindless consumers
01:10:17.460that globalism and modernity is trying to make us into.
01:10:22.020So, Martin, what's the next steps for you?
01:10:25.000Where can people find you and how can they support you right now?
01:10:29.160Next step when I'm recording this video will be the remigration summit in Porto.
01:10:32.840I don't know when it's broadcasted, but you're going to find all the speeches we gave there online.
01:10:38.840And I'm in the process of setting up the Institute for Immigration, which will be an NRA-styled lobby, research, policy, think tank around the idea of remigration.
01:10:51.820And also, I think when you're watching the videos already online, we're going to start a big project, a big initiative on the European level, a patriotic initiative.
01:11:01.740where everybody also is invited to take part in.
01:11:06.360And we want to unite with this, the whole re-migration movement,