The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - FREEMIUM： Epochs #250 ｜ The History of Epochs

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to Epochs. This is a very special episode, an entirely different thing actually.

00:00:06.180 This is the 250th episode.

00:00:09.720 So I thought we would mark it with something a little bit different, a retrospective basically.

00:00:15.300 If you've tuned in this week like a good fan of Epochs, expecting a story all about history, you're not going to get it.

00:00:23.740 What I'm going to do this time, just a one-off, I might do it again for like the 500th episode if I ever get to 500 episodes.

00:00:29.340 I might do something similar at that point, so it really is a one-off.

00:00:32.500 And I'm just going to talk about Epochs, do a history of Epochs, just to mark the 250th episode of it.

00:00:42.560 So there you go, I'm in the first studio with the special bespoke Epochs video wall.

00:00:49.700 And hopefully this is for fans of Epochs, like the people that really do watch it, you know, every single one.

00:00:57.080 This is for you guys, if you want to know a little bit about behind the scenes, and a little bit of the history, my thoughts and feelings about it.

00:01:05.160 And any little tidbits, the story of Epochs, if you like.

00:01:09.920 So it's very different to any other episode I've ever done, and it really is a one-off.

00:01:15.440 So I hope you like it, I hope it goes down well.

00:01:19.080 But after this week, I'll be going back to talking about history again.

00:01:25.380 So okay, the 250th episode.

00:01:27.480 Okay, enjoy.

00:01:28.780 Alright, so it started very nearly five years ago now.

00:01:31.780 So episode 256 will be the five-year anniversary of it.

00:01:36.960 I haven't missed a week.

00:01:38.180 I haven't missed a single week in five years.

00:01:40.040 I'm quite proud of that record, my attendance record effectively.

00:01:43.520 There was one week, one week in five years, where the Epochs didn't go out until the Monday.

00:01:50.740 But that wasn't my fault.

00:01:52.500 It really wasn't.

00:01:53.380 It was all recorded, and all edited, and everything was fine.

00:01:55.740 And then there was some technical hitch on Sunday.

00:01:59.080 Some computers fell over, or I don't even know.

00:02:01.920 I don't really deal with that side of things, of posting it on YouTube, and posting it on the website.

00:02:06.400 But something happened on the Sunday, and it didn't go out on the Sunday.

00:02:10.620 But I'd done my job, everything was fine, and it went out on the Monday.

00:02:14.360 Other than that one week, I think that's the only time.

00:02:17.640 Other than that one week, it's always gone out on a Sunday for five years straight.

00:02:21.600 Despite illness, despite COVID, despite anything and everything.

00:02:25.600 Sunday, you get an Epochs.

00:02:28.500 You get a long-form bit of history from your history bro, Bo Dade.

00:02:34.320 Long may it last.

00:02:35.080 I enjoy it.

00:02:36.280 I'm sort of proud of the oeuvre.

00:02:38.460 I'm proud of the body of work.

00:02:41.680 You know, it will live longer than me.

00:02:45.680 It's digital.

00:02:46.580 It's there forever.

00:02:47.580 It'll be archived somewhere or other for a long, long time.

00:02:50.600 Long after I'm gone, I would have thought.

00:02:51.840 So, I'm proud of it, and I'm grateful to you guys.

00:02:57.480 So, let's talk about, okay, so episode one.

00:02:59.340 Very, very nearly, five years ago, Mr. Cole Benjamin, that Sargon of a Cadfella, 0.99

00:03:06.140 he employs me to be sort of a presenter and a writer.

00:03:09.320 He used to do a lot more writing of articles on the website.

00:03:12.080 But mainly to be the history person, to make quality, the idea is to be quality behind

00:03:18.460 the paywall content, and I'd be the history-themed person that does that.

00:03:24.780 And so, when I first turned up, week one, this is what Carl always does with new employees,

00:03:29.940 is a little bit drops you in the deep end in your first week.

00:03:33.520 A little bit, usually.

00:03:34.440 Not always.

00:03:34.800 But, it's like, make a bit of content now.

00:03:37.700 Go.

00:03:38.460 Just to see how you sort of deal with it a bit.

00:03:40.920 But I was fine, because just talking about history and a long-form content was already

00:03:44.560 my bread and butter.

00:03:45.600 I already had my channel, History Bro.

00:03:49.280 And just love history.

00:03:50.920 Always have.

00:03:51.500 So, the idea of just being asked to just sit down and do an hour or more of talking about

00:03:56.740 history was not a problem.

00:03:58.880 Right?

00:03:59.060 It was really not a problem for me.

00:04:00.040 I could just hit the ground running.

00:04:02.200 All right.

00:04:02.580 Now, I thought, where me and Carl had made history-themed content before, again, for

00:04:07.020 my channel, History Bro, for some reason, I had it in my mind.

00:04:10.560 We hadn't discussed it properly, or at all.

00:04:12.580 I had it in my mind, for some reason, I remember clearly, we were going to talk about Alexander,

00:04:17.580 Alexander the Great.

00:04:19.060 Something I'm still yet to do on Epochs.

00:04:22.080 If you go over to my channel, History Bro, you can find two videos of two and a half hours

00:04:27.660 a piece, so five hours, of me and Carl talking about Alexander the Great.

00:04:32.580 With full references from, you know, Arian and Plutarch and Curtius.

00:04:42.260 It was a really good bit of long-form content.

00:04:44.120 Five hours of me and Carl talking about Alexander.

00:04:47.140 And for some reason, I thought we were going to sort of recreate that and do that for Epochs

00:04:51.020 from get-go.

00:04:52.520 Anyway, I start on my first week in Swindon.

00:04:54.900 And have a quick conversation, because it was always going to be in conversation with

00:04:59.680 Carl.

00:05:00.200 The first whole bunch of them, one and a half of them, are in conversation with Carl.

00:05:05.360 Some of them are with other people, and some of them are on my own.

00:05:08.300 All right.

00:05:09.080 So to begin with, they were all in conversation with Carl.

00:05:12.820 So I thought we were going to do Alexander, and he's like, no, I want to do Hanno the Navigator.

00:05:17.420 So there you can see, it's episode one, Epochs, episode one, Hanno the Navigator.

00:05:26.180 Anyone who's not familiar with this format, this is our new website, by the way.

00:05:30.300 We're reworking, rejigging the entire Lotus Eaters website to actually make it good and

00:05:35.160 professional, finally.

00:05:37.160 We've got loads of web devs, been working on that for quite a long time.

00:05:40.580 Spent quite a lot of money and energy and time on that.

00:05:43.560 So this is the beta version of it, if it looks a bit different, if you're used to the website.

00:05:48.400 This is what it should look like going forward.

00:05:49.800 But Carl says on week one, no, I want to do Hanno the Navigator.

00:05:52.920 And I was like, in my mind, I was like, okay, that just came out of left field to me.

00:05:57.020 I was like, okay, okay, I know of Hanno the Navigator.

00:06:01.300 I'm aware of who that is and what they were and early Carthage and all that stuff.

00:06:05.420 But it's been a long, long time since I've read the small accounts, the small amount

00:06:09.760 of literature we've actually got on Hanno the Navigator.

00:06:12.520 Give me a day or two just to reread it and read around it a bit.

00:06:18.260 And okay, we'll do Hanno the Navigator.

00:06:20.240 It really came out of nowhere that Carl said that.

00:06:24.140 And I don't know why particularly he wanted to do Hanno the Navigator for episode one,

00:06:29.960 but that was Carl's choice.

00:06:31.520 A lot of them, most of them are my choice, purely what I want to do.

00:06:36.280 But especially in the early days, it was more like 50-50, Carl would pick the topic or I

00:06:44.540 would pick the topic.

00:06:45.860 And slowly that petered out where Carl picked the topic less and less a bit.

00:06:50.280 And it was more and more me picking the topic.

00:06:52.280 And anyway, nowadays, or for a long time, it's been just me picking it.

00:06:55.900 But to begin with, often they were Carl's picks.

00:06:59.060 So the very, very first one was that.

00:07:02.260 Okay, and it's sort of like a baptism of fire a bit, isn't it, whenever you start doing

00:07:06.920 something new?

00:07:07.860 Again, I wasn't entirely new to the idea of sitting down and making long-form history-themed

00:07:11.580 content.

00:07:11.960 Still, it's the first one in a new job and everything.

00:07:18.100 But Carl's a great conversationalist, isn't he?

00:07:22.960 I've got to give him that.

00:07:23.800 Even his worst attractors will admit that he's at a professional level of holding a conversation.

00:07:33.960 And I like to think I'm good enough.

00:07:35.600 Anyway, it was fine.

00:07:36.420 It was absolutely fine.

00:07:37.320 It was fun.

00:07:38.260 They're nearly all fun.

00:07:39.320 Not every single one.

00:07:40.260 I'll let you know when we talk about it.

00:07:41.340 But nearly always, it's just fun.

00:07:44.300 It's just I've got the notes.

00:07:45.600 I know the thing inside out, more or less.

00:07:47.940 I've got more talking points than I could get through.

00:07:51.500 So just sit down, enjoy it, and just have a conversation about early Carthage and Hanno

00:07:57.060 the Navigator.

00:07:58.260 Got a few of the quotes in front of you on a laptop or on a screen or whatever.

00:08:02.820 And yeah, just sit down and enjoy it.

00:08:05.260 One thing I do remember from that first episode, it was in the old studio.

00:08:08.900 We're in the old studio.

00:08:09.660 And there was the old table there, if anyone remembers it.

00:08:13.560 And just the way that studio was set up is that out of sight, just out of sight, effectively

00:08:20.660 kind of behind you, three quarters behind you, was a settee in that space, in that studio

00:08:26.740 space.

00:08:27.140 And I remember at the end of the recording, or very, very near the recording, I turned

00:08:31.540 around and Callum was sitting on the settee.

00:08:33.820 You know, Callum, who used to work here.

00:08:35.940 And he'd obviously been sitting there the whole time.

00:08:37.960 And I just wasn't aware of it.

00:08:39.640 And I remember turning around and going, oh, oh, you sit there.

00:08:42.100 Because usually no one would sit in that settee.

00:08:44.360 Occasionally, if a guest came in, I remember one time Alex Stein came in, primetime, 99,

00:08:49.400 Alex Stein.

00:08:49.860 He came in, and he brought his girlfriend, and she sat on the settee while they're recording.

00:08:55.460 Something like that.

00:08:56.160 That would happen.

00:08:56.960 But usually, other members of Lotus Eaters wouldn't just sit in the studio, just sit

00:09:01.100 there watching.

00:09:03.800 Anyway, he did.

00:09:04.500 And I remember turning around and being a bit shocked that Callum was sort of observing.

00:09:08.200 If I'd known, it might have put me off slightly, but I didn't.

00:09:12.960 Anyway, hand on the navigator.

00:09:14.720 Got off to a good start.

00:09:16.200 After that, I thought, okay, maybe I'd like to start with something like, or start doing

00:09:22.300 epochs more with things like, what did I have in mind?

00:09:25.480 I had in mind that I wanted to do Gilgamesh or the Iliad.

00:09:31.840 Now, ever since then, I still haven't done the Iliad.

00:09:34.360 I've been threatening to do a long series all about the Iliad for five years now.

00:09:40.500 And I will do it at some point, but it still hasn't happened.

00:09:43.820 Gilgamesh, we did do.

00:09:45.160 Eventually, me, Carl, and Stelios sat down and did a very, very long form, like three

00:09:51.680 or four hours worth of a single video, three or four hours, one of the longest Lotus Eaters

00:09:55.560 videos we've ever done, all about Gilgamesh.

00:09:58.880 And I think that was either just a one-off type piece of content, or maybe it was on Stelios'

00:10:03.920 Symposium.

00:10:05.840 But nevertheless, there is hours of me, Carl and Stelios, talking about Gilgamesh, almost

00:10:10.900 line by line, not quite line by line, but quite a deep textual analysis of Gilgamesh.

00:10:16.000 So that is out there, but I haven't done Gilgamesh on epochs.

00:10:19.040 That's what I had in mind.

00:10:19.940 That's what I wanted to do.

00:10:21.520 But Carl was like, no, let me reread the Iliad before we do that, and then we'll do that.

00:10:27.320 And I was like, okay, fine.

00:10:27.960 And he said the same thing about Gilgamesh.

00:10:32.880 He was like, let's save Gilgamesh.

00:10:35.140 Like, it's so good.

00:10:36.240 Let's save it.

00:10:37.340 Just get a few more under your belt, get the thread of it going, get used to it, and then

00:10:40.640 we'll do the big ones, like Gilgamesh and the Iliad.

00:10:43.880 So I was left to just pick the next thing.

00:10:46.900 And I wanted to do ancient history because, again, sort of start at the beginning, if

00:10:51.100 you like, and my background is ancient history.

00:10:53.740 My undergrad is ancient history.

00:10:55.300 So that's really my wheelhouse is the more ancient world.

00:10:58.500 And when we'd done Hanno the Navigator, I thought, okay, I'll do something that sort

00:11:01.400 of kind of leads on from that or is in kind of the same vein as that.

00:11:07.580 So anyway, it's a great book I've had for a long time, got for Christmas many, many,

00:11:11.280 many years ago, 20, 25 years ago, about Pythias.

00:11:14.580 Pythias the Greek, the person from the ancient Greek world, the classical Greek world, who

00:11:19.400 according to his own account, whether you can believe it or not, sailed all the way

00:11:24.380 up around the bottom of Spain through, what's it called, the Gibraltar, all the way up the

00:11:31.340 Bay of Biscay to Britain, maybe all the way to the top of Britain, maybe as far as Iceland.

00:11:36.380 They're not really sure.

00:11:37.260 They're not really sure.

00:11:40.400 But he certainly went on some sort of extraordinary voyage, like Hanno the Navigator.

00:11:45.040 And it's just a fantastic story, if you believe the accounts.

00:11:48.540 So that's what we did next.

00:11:51.180 All right.

00:11:51.720 Then we, then Carl wanted to do Alcibiades.

00:11:53.860 One of Carl's favorite figures is Alcibiades from the latter half of the Peloponnesian War,

00:12:02.360 Athens versus Sparta.

00:12:03.440 I mean, I love Alcibiades as well.

00:12:07.900 It's a great and incredible figure, larger than life figure, jumps out from ancient history,

00:12:13.360 a bit like Alexander or Pyrrhus of Epirus.

00:12:16.540 It's like when you read about it, when you know about it, it's like, oh, he's sort of

00:12:19.980 undeniably a sort of a crazy, interesting Chad type person, right?

00:12:25.740 So, okay.

00:12:28.460 That was Carl's pick.

00:12:29.560 He wanted to do Alcibiades.

00:12:31.380 All right.

00:12:31.600 Then it was part of the idea from inception, really, to have guests sometimes.

00:12:40.560 So from quite early on, Carl wanted us to have guests.

00:12:45.520 And I'm happy to have a guest, speak to some other people, you know, change it up a bit,

00:12:48.540 make it a bit different.

00:12:49.240 And I was a big fan, or am still, a big fan of Critical Drinker.

00:12:53.360 I've done a fair bit of content with him.

00:12:55.480 There's a long-form bit on History Bro where we talk about our favorite war films.

00:13:00.220 I've been on his open bar a couple of times.

00:13:04.280 I've done a few bits and bobs with Will, the Critical Drinker.

00:13:09.420 Great dude.

00:13:10.160 Great dude.

00:13:11.080 I'd love to appear on his stuff more.

00:13:13.240 Anyway, he's friends with Carl as well.

00:13:15.980 They've made content all over the place over the years.

00:13:18.780 And where Lotus Eaters as a whole were still just trying to get off the ground,

00:13:24.100 Carl and everyone was sort of trying to call in a few favors, you know, can you help out?

00:13:28.300 Because Critical Drinker by this point, five years ago, was already massive.

00:13:31.840 He was already a giant YouTuber by that point.

00:13:36.620 And so I was thinking, who's sort of the biggest person within reason we could get on?

00:13:42.240 On the show, on Epoch, to sort of help us out, you know, boost it.

00:13:46.140 You know, Critical Drinker, you can only ask, right?

00:13:49.240 There's no problem to ask.

00:13:51.320 And if they say no, it's no big deal.

00:13:52.920 So anyway, on Discord or something or other, I asked Will,

00:13:57.720 would you come on and talk about history a little bit with me?

00:14:02.720 And he was gracious enough to say yes.

00:14:04.900 He's a very gracious, generous person.

00:14:06.840 With his time and with his fame.

00:14:11.320 He's gracious and generous with it.

00:14:13.960 And anyway, because it had to be sort of a history-based thing,

00:14:17.040 and because he's a movie, TV, culture guy, critic,

00:14:21.820 we were going to talk about a war movie.

00:14:25.940 And so I think he picked it.

00:14:28.120 I think it was him.

00:14:28.840 It might have been me, but I think it was him.

00:14:30.760 The 1970 film, Waterloo.

00:14:33.240 Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant film.

00:14:36.000 So that's what that is.

00:14:36.920 That is that.

00:14:37.380 That's what all that is.

00:14:38.500 Brilliant film.

00:14:39.340 And of course, we can talk about the film itself,

00:14:41.440 and we can talk about the real history of the Battle of Waterloo and everything.

00:14:45.760 Next one, Carl wasn't done with the Alcibiades thing.

00:14:49.840 And it is a great story.

00:14:52.960 What is it in there?

00:14:54.000 It's Thucydides is the main thing, main account.

00:14:58.940 So the next, what, couple?

00:15:01.780 Yeah, the next couple are, again, about Alcibiades.

00:15:05.640 The Sicilian expedition, that's Alcibiades' expedition.

00:15:09.000 And even the next one after that.

00:15:14.480 Yeah, great, great story.

00:15:15.840 The Peloponnesian War is just great stuff.

00:15:17.440 Next one, we tried to get another, well, we got another guest.

00:15:24.800 This time it was Mooler.

00:15:26.800 Anyone knows Mooler?

00:15:27.620 You know that whole clique of guys?

00:15:29.820 Great guys?

00:15:31.440 You know, well, Mooler's like the EFAP chaps, isn't he? 1.00

00:15:34.940 But, you know, there's that clique of, like, nerd-rotic, drinker, Mooler,

00:15:43.480 Hill vs. Babyface, Az.

00:15:45.640 You know, there's that clique of people.

00:15:47.440 And they're all sort of adjacent to us, friends with Carl and, you know,

00:15:51.400 sort of on our side of the aisle, politically speaking, vaguely, one way or another.

00:15:56.280 You know, non-woke.

00:15:58.380 And so, once again, Mooler was just on Carl's Discord.

00:16:01.660 And I didn't know Mooler.

00:16:02.560 I'd never spoke to Mooler before this at all.

00:16:04.300 But once again, he was gracious enough, generous enough to say yes.

00:16:09.140 And I asked him.

00:16:10.000 This was his pick.

00:16:11.300 I said, let's talk about a history film, just like we did with Drinker a couple of weeks back.

00:16:16.260 Is there any particular war film?

00:16:19.780 And he picked Inglourious Basterds.

00:16:21.480 Now, I really like Inglourious Basterds.

00:16:23.560 Of course, it's historically, ridiculously inaccurate.

00:16:26.100 But that's the point.

00:16:27.720 It's not trying to be accurate.

00:16:29.780 It's playing with history, isn't it?

00:16:32.360 But he picked Inglourious Basterds.

00:16:34.040 I do seem to remember.

00:16:35.280 And I've watched that, like, four or five times.

00:16:37.220 I think it's a great film.

00:16:38.820 Again, not for the history.

00:16:41.340 It's just a funny, great, entertaining film.

00:16:44.320 So there you go.

00:16:44.680 We talked all about that.

00:16:47.140 It's like Quentin Tarantino reimagining history rather than anything else.

00:16:50.620 But all right.

00:16:51.680 Then Carl picked The Life of a Legionary.

00:16:53.400 There's a sort of famous book.

00:16:56.080 Famous-ish book written in the ancient world, if I recall.

00:17:01.160 Like a Legionary's handbook, almost.

00:17:04.200 And me and Carl both love military history and the Romans, the ancient world.

00:17:08.900 So we just did that.

00:17:09.720 That was good.

00:17:10.240 That was a fun one.

00:17:12.960 Got another guest in.

00:17:14.140 Apostolic Majesty.

00:17:16.920 One of my favorite humans is Apostolic Majesty.

00:17:21.500 Love the guy.

00:17:23.820 I like people that are extremely knowledgeable.

00:17:30.580 Love it.

00:17:31.840 There's some people where, if you come across as a know-it-all, it gets their back up.

00:17:37.960 If you're sort of too knowledgeable or intelligent or clever or whatever, some people hate that.

00:17:44.080 They hate it.

00:17:45.000 They think you're like condescending or something, even if you're not.

00:17:48.000 But other people love it.

00:17:52.220 When there's someone, a talking head, that knows their stuff inside out, and you know that their knowledge base is gigantic, you can ask them almost anything and they'll know, within reason, of course.

00:18:03.980 Ask them to drill down into something they just said and explain it, and they can, because they know they're onions.

00:18:10.560 I think that is amazing.

00:18:15.020 I think that's brilliant.

00:18:16.840 I love it.

00:18:17.260 And Apostolic Majesty is one of those people.

00:18:20.400 Where it's the real deal.

00:18:21.640 Another way of putting it, it's the real deal.

00:18:24.220 There's nothing fake or phony about it, right?

00:18:27.580 There's nothing like a performative.

00:18:30.380 If you scratch the surface, there's nothing there.

00:18:32.180 No, no, no.

00:18:32.580 It's the real deal.

00:18:34.900 So I love to pick people's brains.

00:18:37.780 Who are that?

00:18:38.340 Who have got that?

00:18:40.060 Anyway.

00:18:41.520 Don't want to come across as too much of a sycophant for Apostolic Majesty.

00:18:45.460 But he's probably my favourite history YouTuber.

00:18:50.380 We had a discussion there about Justinian I, you know, and all the Nikkei riots and the whole thing.

00:18:59.860 It's a fascinating reign.

00:19:00.740 Eastern Roman Emperor, Byzantine Emperor.

00:19:04.160 Brilliant.

00:19:05.020 One of the most famous Byzantine Emperors.

00:19:09.780 Classic story.

00:19:10.720 Brilliant story.

00:19:11.720 Theodora, his Empress.

00:19:13.540 The whole nine yards.

00:19:15.220 There you go.

00:19:15.880 Then we did Charles Martell.

00:19:18.580 Charles the Hammer.

00:19:20.340 I think that was one of Carl's picks.

00:19:23.300 Might be wrong, but I think it was.

00:19:25.400 Again, just a classic.

00:19:27.140 Just such a great story.

00:19:28.280 Just everything about it is, like, romantic.

00:19:31.800 Not in the carnal sense.

00:19:34.020 Just everything about it is just, it's just fantastic.

00:19:37.660 Some real good picks early on.

00:19:41.560 Then I picked the Year of the Four Emperors.

00:19:43.660 So that's after Nero died, committed suicide, forced to commit suicide.

00:19:49.260 After that happened, there was four emperors in a year.

00:19:52.020 Or five, six emperors within 18 months.

00:19:55.740 The Year of the Four Emperors, a classic bit of, it's like Rome, first century Rome, distilled down into an even more concentrated version of the insanity of, like, the first few generations of Caesars.

00:20:13.240 The Year of the Four Emperors, the Year of the Four Emperors, that's one of my, that's one of the best ones, one of the more interesting ones, I think.

00:20:20.880 I mean, I think they're nearly all good, all worthy of re-listening to, but that one particularly, I think it's a great story, the Year of the Four Emperors.

00:20:30.640 Okay, then we did Herodotus on the Scythians.

00:20:38.260 So Herodotus is like a staple of ancient history, isn't it?

00:20:42.120 Absolute staple.

00:20:43.380 If you want to be, if you're into ancient history, I want to say that you know about ancient history, you're going to have to read Herodotus.

00:20:49.740 Or listen to it on audiobook.

00:20:51.600 More than once, I would have thought.

00:20:53.540 Anyway, he talks about one particular people, the Scythians, and there's whole books written about the Scythians.

00:20:58.120 Scythians, people from sort of the Central Asian steppe.

00:21:04.120 It's not even clearly defined.

00:21:06.060 I mean, whether they're from places like modern-day Ukraine, or from much more Central Asia.

00:21:13.380 Anyway, Scythians, fascinating stuff.

00:21:16.720 I think that was, I think that was Carl's pick.

00:21:21.040 Or maybe we both said, what about that?

00:21:22.980 And we were both like, yeah, let's do that.

00:21:24.240 I think, I can't quite remember.

00:21:25.220 All right, the next one is Xerxes's army.

00:21:31.620 That's, if you've ever seen the film, 300.

00:21:35.060 That Xerxes.

00:21:37.600 And again, I think that was Carl's pick, but it might have been mine.

00:21:40.920 I think it was Carl's pick.

00:21:42.200 Again, just straight up sort of military history, nerding out about military history.

00:21:47.660 Just fun, it's just fun.

00:21:49.160 You do a bit of reading, especially for the ancient world.

00:21:51.520 Usually there's not a great deal of reading.

00:21:52.900 Even if you've got to read all of Thucydides, you can do that in a week relatively easily.

00:21:58.280 But usually it's just a few passages from something.

00:22:02.260 Do that within one day, a few days.

00:22:05.240 Then you've got everything you really need.

00:22:07.340 If you know enough around it, where you can just riff on anything.

00:22:11.420 So yeah, something like Xerxes's army.

00:22:13.260 Do a little bit of reading.

00:22:14.920 A few days worth of reading, maybe.

00:22:16.280 And then just go and have a conversation for an hour, hour and a half.

00:22:20.420 Fun.

00:22:21.040 Great fun.

00:22:22.200 Okay, next was The Crimes of Domitian.

00:22:23.760 That was definitely one of my picks.

00:22:27.100 Because I love Edward Gibbon.

00:22:30.380 An English historian writing at the end of the 18th century.

00:22:33.340 And his sections on Domitian are brilliant.

00:22:37.060 And also, what, Sir Atonius talks about Domitian.

00:22:44.380 He's got a fair bit on Domitian.

00:22:45.580 He's one of the worst emperors.

00:22:46.920 He's like, he's up there with Nero, Caligula, Elabagulus, Commodus.

00:22:52.860 You know, he's one of the most sadistic sort of evil ones.

00:23:01.180 So it's a great story, right?

00:23:02.340 It's salacious.

00:23:03.080 It's violent.

00:23:04.700 And yeah, I think The Crimes of Domitian is, again, that's probably one of the more interesting ones, I think, in my humble opinion.

00:23:14.440 Okay, the next one was definitely one of Carl's picks.

00:23:16.580 It's a story of a giant naval.

00:23:21.020 Well, we're talking all about the First Punic War.

00:23:23.280 That's where Rome and Carthage went to war with each other over Sicily.

00:23:26.500 And one thing in there was a giant naval battle.

00:23:29.300 Some sets won the biggest naval battles of all time, including the modern world.

00:23:33.600 Surely it's not as big as Guadalcanal in the Pacific in World War II, but...

00:23:37.560 Or is it?

00:23:38.580 I don't know.

00:23:39.620 If the accounts are to be believed...

00:23:42.080 And that's saying something.

00:23:44.380 280,000 men were lost, killed in the naval engagement during the First Punic War.

00:23:49.740 Definitely Carl's pick.

00:23:51.280 But again, fascinating thing.

00:23:53.540 Fascinating thing.

00:23:55.180 Then I did...

00:23:56.520 Then it was my pick.

00:23:58.400 And yeah, this is where I was in conversation with Josh.

00:24:03.580 Big Josh Firm.

00:24:04.900 The Firminator.

00:24:05.580 Because he was interested in Roman Britain.

00:24:10.240 Like in the office, I'll say, oh, I might do it on my own, usually in conversation with Carl, but might have an outside guest.

00:24:17.800 Or if any of you guys, the other cast of the Lotus Eaters, the other presenters of the Lotus Eaters, if there's anything you ever want to do or interested in, we'll go on each other's shows, right?

00:24:29.640 So I went on Contemplations with Josh a whole bunch.

00:24:35.720 I went on Symposium with Stelios a whole bunch.

00:24:38.600 Helped Luca these days do some literature content, whatever it is, you know.

00:24:43.160 Go on Dan Tubbs' Brokonomics.

00:24:45.520 We'll go on each other's shows, right?

00:24:46.960 So anyway, this was the first time Big Josh Firm wanted to talk about, was interested in Roman Britain.

00:24:55.700 Now I know Roman Britain inside out, literally studied it at undergrad and after undergrad, just, well, as an Englishman, right?

00:25:06.460 I'm going to know loads about Roman Britain.

00:25:08.700 As a history nerd and an Englishman, it's your bread and butter on some level, right?

00:25:12.980 But if you're a history, an Englishman and a history fan, you're going to know about the Duke of Wellington or Nelson, Admiral Lord Nelson, or Roman Britain.

00:25:20.620 So having actually formally properly studied it, done written essays in it and sitting exams about it, and then half a lifetime on top of that of reading around it.

00:25:31.420 So love it, my staple.

00:25:32.660 Could talk about Roman Britain for, no exaggeration, for hours upon hours upon hours upon hours.

00:25:37.060 But we only did, what was it, a two-part series?

00:25:39.440 Yeah, just a two-part series.

00:25:40.620 Oh no, not even that, so, okay, we talked about Caesar's expedition, so that's the first Roman expedition.

00:25:49.300 Then we talked about Tacitus' Agricola.

00:25:52.800 Tacitus wrote a book, other than the Annals and the Histories, he also wrote the Germania and the Agricola.

00:25:57.720 The Agricola talks about Roman Britain.

00:26:02.520 So then did that also with Josh, yeah.

00:26:04.980 Then when I was still in that vein, got into a Tacitus, reading Tacitus, and the Agricola's very short, and also the Germania is very, very short.

00:26:13.560 Not much more than a pamphlet, almost.

00:26:15.600 So when I'd done the Agricola, I thought, oh, it kind of makes sense to do the Germania, back with Carl, in conversation with Carl.

00:26:22.020 That's a very, they're all interesting, but I think that's another very good one, another particularly good one, the Germania.

00:26:26.880 All right, then the Battle of Tunis.

00:26:35.540 What would that, okay, this is one of the first ones where I don't really remember it all that well, okay.

00:26:40.940 Would that have been, I don't even remember that that well.

00:26:46.360 Okay, this is the first one where my memory's failing me ever so slightly.

00:26:49.940 I guess it's about ancient Carthage.

00:26:53.660 Maybe this was in the first Punic War again. 0.99

00:26:56.920 I can't quite remember, you know.

00:26:58.900 Should I have a quick click on it and see what the description says?

00:27:02.440 The Romans attempt to seize Carl.

00:27:03.860 Oh, okay, it is.

00:27:04.700 Okay, there is that.

00:27:06.380 Right.

00:27:07.080 When the Romans attempted to seize it.

00:27:10.640 Okay, yeah, so that's the first Punic War again.

00:27:12.900 So I imagine it would have been Carl who picked that one.

00:27:16.220 Then the Sea People. 0.96

00:27:18.240 Classic fare for ancient history lovers.

00:27:21.240 Classic thing.

00:27:22.760 You know, whether it was, you know, the questioning, the mystery of who exactly the Sea People were.

00:27:28.660 The Bronze Age collapse.

00:27:30.600 All that sort of thing.

00:27:33.000 Little bit of a murder mystery type thing.

00:27:35.040 Although Carl insisted he knows exactly who it is.

00:27:37.160 And various historians now think they know who it really is.

00:27:40.500 But it's still a bit of a mystery.

00:27:42.820 But that's a good one.

00:27:43.660 That's definitely a good one.

00:27:44.500 Okay, and then I wanted, and then I had picked a thing about Sir Francis Drake.

00:27:50.340 Again, talking to Josh there.

00:27:51.900 Because Josh is from Plymouth.

00:27:54.880 And Sir Francis Drake obviously connected to Plymouth and the Royal Navy and all that sort of thing.

00:27:59.900 And I made a whole bunch of content about Drake before on History Bro, on my channel History Bro.

00:28:05.420 So I know Sir Francis Drake inside out, his life and career.

00:28:09.320 And all the things around the story.

00:28:11.480 I know Inside Out.

00:28:12.400 And Josh was interested in that.

00:28:15.060 So he's like, let's do a thing on Drake.

00:28:17.500 So he did that.

00:28:18.540 That's a good one.

00:28:19.900 Then we started a series, was it?

00:28:23.540 Yeah, basically a series.

00:28:25.820 A little mini-series.

00:28:27.300 Or at least, if not a full series, episodes that lead one into another.

00:28:31.060 So here's one about the Battle of Cressy, i.e. a smashing victory for the English in the 14th century.

00:28:44.840 Sort of England maxing, talking about when we win.

00:28:47.480 When we smashed the French up. 1.00

00:28:50.160 It was Edward I, isn't it?

00:28:52.420 And the Black Prince.

00:28:54.460 Just a great English victory. 0.68

00:28:56.780 One of the all-time greats.

00:28:57.920 The Battle of Cressy.

00:28:58.680 Then went on to do the Battle of Poitiers.

00:29:02.200 Again, the Black Prince. 0.73

00:29:03.360 Where again, we smashed the French. 1.00

00:29:06.120 So one leads into the other.

00:29:07.280 In the same generation. 0.69

00:29:08.560 Or half a generation later, or whatever it was.

00:29:11.100 Then I decided to do the Battle of Agincourt.

00:29:15.440 So three great victories in the Hundred Years' War.

00:29:17.820 The Battle of Agincourt is much later, but it's still within the Hundred Years' War.

00:29:22.680 So our three great victories in that.

00:29:24.540 Cressy, Poitiers, Auteur, and Agincourt.

00:29:29.980 So usually I haven't ever revisited anything in Epochs.

00:29:34.580 If you've already done something, it seems a bit of a waste to talk about it again.

00:29:38.900 But Henry V is one of those.

00:29:40.280 So this is the first time I talked about Agincourt.

00:29:43.400 And the Battle of...

00:29:45.280 And Henry V.

00:29:47.920 So just talked about the battle in that.

00:29:50.100 But Henry V is one of those things.

00:29:52.140 There's a few things in history that I know really inside out.

00:29:55.400 I've kind of kept reading about it over and over again throughout my whole adult life.

00:30:00.640 And Henry V is one of those.

00:30:04.800 Fascinated.

00:30:05.800 Fascinated.

00:30:07.720 Like fixated almost.

00:30:10.280 On Henry V since I was about, I don't know, 13 or 14 or something.

00:30:16.000 A real, like a childhood fascination almost.

00:30:18.740 That I still have today.

00:30:21.220 So of course early on I want to talk about Agincourt.

00:30:24.800 And later go on.

00:30:25.900 We'll see.

00:30:26.400 You'll see.

00:30:27.120 Go on to do even more on it.

00:30:28.480 Okay, so the next episode is just beyond Agincourt.

00:30:32.240 Just keep talking about it.

00:30:33.800 When we finish the story of the Battle of Agincourt, I just want to keep going with the narrative.

00:30:37.460 So I did that.

00:30:37.940 And then beyond that, the end of the Hundred Years' War after Henry dies and Henry VI, his baby son, takes over.

00:30:46.580 And England ends up losing the Hundred Years' War effectively, finally.

00:30:50.240 And Joan of Arc and all of that.

00:30:52.860 So I just couldn't stop myself just continuing the story, continuing the narrative.

00:30:57.360 Okay, then me and Cole, I think, jointly decided.

00:31:00.800 At this point, I remember us sitting down saying, it's all very well to have sort of a scattergun.

00:31:05.080 You pick something.

00:31:05.760 I pick something.

00:31:06.920 Why don't we have, like, plan a few ahead and, like, plan it a bit more.

00:31:11.400 And I was like, fine, yeah, yeah, good.

00:31:12.740 And so somehow we jointly decided we was going to talk about Byzantium for a while, for a few episodes.

00:31:21.360 So we do the Nikkei riots, which, again, is Justinian I, right?

00:31:25.680 I already did a bit of a conversation, didn't I, with Apostolic Majesty about Justinian.

00:31:32.440 But so we return to it there, specifically in the Nikkei riots.

00:31:35.960 Like, this whole episode is just the few days that is the Nikkei riots.

00:31:41.620 But then we went on to talk about Belisarius.

00:31:45.440 That's Justinian's general who ended, put down the Nikkei riots and then went on to reconquer the entire Western Roman world on behalf of Justinian.

00:31:56.240 So it's part one, part two, and Belisarius part three.

00:32:01.620 Yeah, reconquering the West, and then Belisarius' final downfall.

00:32:05.340 So we did a three-part series.

00:32:07.620 Me and Cole were just talking about Belisarius.

00:32:09.180 Yes.

00:32:09.760 Again, one of the greatest generals of antiquity, late antiquity.

00:32:15.600 All right, after that, we did Gordon of Cartoon.

00:32:18.340 Pretty sure that would have been my pick.

00:32:19.720 Again, the reconquest of the Sudan or that whole story.

00:32:25.840 I wanted to do a little, a few episodes about sort of Victorian times or late Georgian Victorian times.

00:32:32.880 The 19th century, sort of great, the height of the British Empire and some of the great heroes the British Empire had.

00:32:39.520 And so one of those is Gordon of Cartoon, or Gordon of China, as he was known before he was killed.

00:32:48.840 Gordon of Cartoon.

00:32:51.260 So, yeah, there's an episode all on that.

00:32:53.620 Again, if you like that sort of thing, very good episode.

00:32:56.840 If that's your bag, if that's your wheelhouse, then a good one.

00:33:00.440 Then I did the life of Napier.

00:33:04.720 Sir Charles Napier.

00:33:05.780 Again, just a great Victorian hero, effectively.

00:33:11.540 Yeah, an incredible life.

00:33:13.960 And those lives where he was just involved in everything.

00:33:18.820 That is largely forgotten now.

00:33:20.900 Most people, even a lot of history nerds, may not really know, and might have heard the name, but probably don't know about his career in any real detail.

00:33:30.860 But it is great.

00:33:32.040 It is fascinating.

00:33:35.260 All right, then we went on to this, yeah, with Josh again.

00:33:37.780 Josh wanted to do Vlad the Impaler.

00:33:39.540 And I know all about Vlad the Impaler.

00:33:41.400 Again, an incredible story.

00:33:43.920 Almost beggar's belief.

00:33:46.080 But me and Josh thought we'd talk about Vlad.

00:33:48.140 We both brought things to the table.

00:33:50.900 Very enjoyable.

00:33:52.120 Again, just fun to do that.

00:33:54.880 And then it was Christmastime.

00:33:57.320 Then it was Christmastime, so I did a bit of history-themed content about Christmas.

00:34:01.300 You'll see that most years, I think, we do something or other around Christmas.

00:34:04.360 Talked about the Saturnalia, which is not exactly the Roman Christmas, but it was the type of holiday the Romans had around that time of year.

00:34:12.100 With gift-giving and various things that are similar-ish to Christmas.

00:34:18.780 It's called Saturnalia.

00:34:20.900 The ancient Roman Christmas isn't really accurate.

00:34:23.720 But nonetheless, there are loads of sorts of parallels.

00:34:25.800 So, at Christmastime in 2021, I did an episode all about Saturnalia there.

00:34:32.080 Okay, then we went through, me and Cole decided we'd go through a bit of a phase of some of the great semi-mythical, semi-legendary, if not entirely legendary, ancient Greek people from the lives of Plutarch.

00:34:50.500 We both happily agreed to do that.

00:34:53.400 So, we did Theseus of Athens, Lycurgus of Sparta, some of these great figures, got to read Plutarch.

00:35:02.760 We quote heavily from Plutarch and all that sort of thing, you know, doing a proper deep dive.

00:35:06.680 Romulus, Romulus and Remus.

00:35:09.320 Solon, again, the great Athenian lawgiver.

00:35:11.800 These are all in Plutarch.

00:35:12.880 Okay, then something different.

00:35:16.140 We did a few of those in a row and then something different.

00:35:18.200 Got Apostolic Majesty back in. 0.98

00:35:21.720 Quality.

00:35:22.080 I talked to him for many an hour, so many, it was one recording, I believe, if I recall, but it was so long we split it into two episodes.

00:35:32.820 Or was it even three?

00:35:34.540 Yeah, it was three, oh, four, was it four?

00:35:37.440 Split it into four episodes.

00:35:38.480 Maybe it was recorded over two recording periods.

00:35:40.940 But anyway, the next four episodes are talking with Apostolic Majesty all about the origins of World War I.

00:35:46.200 So, going into that in extreme detail.

00:35:48.160 And again, you can't, again, you can't fake or half-ass having that much knowledge.

00:36:03.020 Well, you can talk about, you can just talk about it endlessly for hour after hour after hour.

00:36:08.360 Anything I say, any question I ask, he knows the answer to.

00:36:14.140 Incredible.

00:36:15.620 A remarkable mind.

00:36:16.600 Great stuff.

00:36:20.120 So, we talked all about that for quite a few hours, if you want, about the origins of World War I.

00:36:25.840 In, sort of, quite a lot of detail.

00:36:28.460 Like, audio book length detail.

00:36:32.260 That's all there for you.

00:36:34.580 Alright, then we got a bit of a one-off.

00:36:37.440 A bit of a slightly different one.

00:36:38.680 One of the first episodes where it's different.

00:36:40.660 Was we got Dank, Mark.

00:36:43.820 Thanks for all names, Mark.

00:36:45.700 Got Mark on, because he's very good friends with Carl.

00:36:48.540 And, you know, a friend of the website.

00:36:51.680 A friend of the channel.

00:36:53.880 Old Count Dankula.

00:36:55.020 And, I had a conversation with him, because I'm a fan of his stuff as well.

00:37:00.260 I'm a fan of Dank.

00:37:02.200 And, he's got his own, as well as doing just current affairs and politics type stuff.

00:37:09.520 He's also got, if you know anything about him.

00:37:11.300 He's also got his own series of Mad Lads.

00:37:13.620 Which is sort of, it's sort of history themed, essentially, isn't it?

00:37:16.920 Mad Lads.

00:37:18.160 A lot of it's modern, and maybe it's something that's a bit comical.

00:37:22.780 Alright, it's not sort of, like, much ancient history stuff.

00:37:26.240 Although, there is one or two bits of ancient history.

00:37:28.340 But, anyway.

00:37:30.660 Got him on, and I talked to him all about, a bit like this episode, about Epochs.

00:37:35.900 About Mad Lads.

00:37:37.200 To talk to him all about Mad Lads.

00:37:38.640 Why did you pick that one?

00:37:40.240 Like, let's talk a little bit in detail about this person that you did in detail.

00:37:44.440 And, pick it apart a bit.

00:37:45.600 And, just have a conversation with Dank all about it.

00:37:48.480 Um, so yeah.

00:37:51.600 Slight warning for any kiddies that's laden with expletives, that episode.

00:37:56.780 Because Dank, like any good Scotsman, throws out F-bombs like there's no tomorrow.

00:38:03.800 So yeah, just a little warning.

00:38:05.580 If you're an adult, and you play this in the room where there might be kids,

00:38:09.360 and you don't want them to hear F-bombs.

00:38:13.440 Just be aware.

00:38:14.840 Alright.

00:38:15.220 Then we did a whole long series.

00:38:16.480 The first long, long series.

00:38:18.880 Me and Carl talking about Napoleon.

00:38:20.740 It didn't start off necessarily, we didn't do the first episode to have it in mind that we do a long series.

00:38:26.980 But we just talked about, we talked about the French Revolution, first of all, first and foremost.

00:38:32.040 It was going to be just a one-off episode about the French Revolution.

00:38:35.320 So we did that.

00:38:36.560 And then we thought, well, it just leads perfectly into Napoleon.

00:38:41.600 And I love Napoleon.

00:38:43.560 I mean, love to dislike him, effectively.

00:38:46.420 I'm an Englishman.

00:38:48.140 Come on.

00:38:48.480 Love the story of Napoleon.

00:38:51.540 Love the career of Napoleon.

00:38:53.080 Absolutely fascinating, all that stuff.

00:38:55.120 So we thought, well, we did a thing about the Revolution and how it ended, i.e. Napoleon firing grapeshot into Parisian crowds.

00:39:02.000 Well, let's just continue the story, the narrative, start talking about Napoleon.

00:39:06.020 So we did.

00:39:07.360 Turns out, it was quite a long series.

00:39:09.460 Look, part one, part two, part three, part four, five, six, seven, eight.

00:39:16.180 Is it eight?

00:39:17.260 Yeah, eight.

00:39:18.300 An eight-part series.

00:39:19.780 Or a nine-part series, if you include the first one about the French Revolution.

00:39:22.740 We ended up just retroactively calling it Part Zero.

00:39:26.940 So it's an eight-nine-part series all about Napoleon.

00:39:29.600 And we do it in, as you can imagine, each one of these episodes is like, you know, an hour.

00:39:34.400 Very rarely less than an hour.

00:39:35.880 It's nearly always an hour, more like an hour and a half.

00:39:37.880 Sometimes as much as two hours.

00:39:39.660 Occasionally more than two hours.

00:39:41.000 But in that ballpark, an hour, an hour and a half usually.

00:39:43.820 So there you can see, eight-nine-part series on that.

00:39:47.060 A small audiobook level of detail all about Napoleon.

00:39:51.240 There you go.

00:39:51.580 If you want to hear me and Carl chatting about Napoleon for hours on end, that's there for you.

00:39:56.720 All right.

00:39:57.680 Next one was a slightly different one-off.

00:39:59.760 This was one of my favourite episodes.

00:40:01.420 It's possibly my favourite episode in terms of how much fun I had researching and recording it.

00:40:09.520 It was with Thomas Dowling.

00:40:11.440 Thomas Dowling was an employee at Lotus Eaters relatively briefly.

00:40:16.340 I can't remember how long he worked here, but it was a few months.

00:40:19.420 It was a few months.

00:40:20.220 I really like the guy.

00:40:23.160 I think he's a great guy.

00:40:24.380 Very, very interesting.

00:40:25.280 Very, very clever guy.

00:40:26.440 PhD student.

00:40:28.780 I don't know if he's actually got his PhD.

00:40:31.180 Yeah, I should check in with him.

00:40:33.460 If you watch this Thomas Dowling, I'll check in with you.

00:40:37.080 I hope you're doing all right, buddy.

00:40:38.020 So, an employee that was at Lotus Eaters for a while.

00:40:44.080 And at that time, again, I'd like to throw it out to anyone in the office.

00:40:48.240 Anyone want to talk about anything particular in history?

00:40:50.540 Help me make a bit of content this week, sort of thing.

00:40:52.500 Turns out, me and Thomas Dowling shared a love.

00:40:56.660 A love of racing and Formula One.

00:41:00.040 So, I thought, let's do something a bit different.

00:41:03.160 Episode 53 is where we'd just done a year.

00:41:05.280 It was like my first year anniversary.

00:41:07.380 Right, 52 weeks is a year.

00:41:09.360 So, I've just done a year.

00:41:11.180 Bang on.

00:41:12.480 And I wanted to do something a bit different, sort of market.

00:41:15.020 I'll do something a little bit different.

00:41:16.640 You know, like this.

00:41:18.260 250th episode.

00:41:20.200 So, I decided, right, I'm not going to do something like Solon or Napoleon.

00:41:25.280 I'm going to do the history of Formula One.

00:41:27.200 I want to talk about that.

00:41:28.120 It'll be fun.

00:41:28.920 Thomas knows his stuff inside out as well.

00:41:30.980 And so, anyway, we did that.

00:41:33.680 So, it's slightly different.

00:41:34.300 It's not everyone's cup of tea.

00:41:35.180 A lot of people actively don't care about racing or Formula One.

00:41:38.580 There you go.

00:41:39.000 There are one or two anomalies in the list, in the back catalogue of epochs.

00:41:44.740 There you go.

00:41:45.060 And we talk about it from the beginning, from the earliest, from like the early racing,

00:41:49.620 pre-World War II racing, all the way through to modern times.

00:41:55.140 All right.

00:41:55.440 The next one was the Strategic Con of Maurice.

00:41:57.260 This was one of Carl's picks.

00:41:59.940 There's a book, the Strategic Con of Maurice.

00:42:01.620 It's one of the later Roman emperors, Byzantine emperors.

00:42:04.880 And there's a book that survives, a short book.

00:42:06.920 It tells all about the strategies, how to beat different armies.

00:42:10.500 Again, it's sort of classic military history fair.

00:42:15.140 And it's a great read, an interesting read.

00:42:17.260 Me and Carl Watton decided to do that.

00:42:20.460 All right.

00:42:21.040 Then, The Wars of the Roses.

00:42:22.920 Was that with John Wheatley?

00:42:24.620 Yeah.

00:42:24.840 There's another employee, if you remember John Wheatley.

00:42:26.940 If anyone remembers John Wheatley.

00:42:27.920 Again, he worked for Lotus Eaters relatively briefly.

00:42:32.480 He was certainly here for a few months.

00:42:35.600 Again, I really liked the guy.

00:42:37.020 I really got on with him.

00:42:38.200 Very, very interesting.

00:42:39.080 Very, very knowledgeable person.

00:42:40.900 But at the time when he was working here,

00:42:45.420 somehow, I can't remember exactly,

00:42:47.100 we decided we could do a conversation all about the Wars of the Roses and Henry VI.

00:42:50.960 So we did that.

00:42:54.100 That's there with Mr. John Wheatley.

00:42:59.320 All right.

00:42:59.720 Then I decided I wanted to go on a bit of a Rome kick at that point.

00:43:08.660 I wanted to talk about the age of Julius Caesar and Augustus,

00:43:12.520 all that sort of stuff.

00:43:14.060 So I started with the life of Pompey.

00:43:15.900 I think it might have been originally Carl suggested it,

00:43:18.660 as just throwing it out there if possible.

00:43:20.040 And I was like, yes, Pompey.

00:43:23.100 Oh, I remember.

00:43:24.000 I started researching something else.

00:43:27.360 And Carl said, I remember this one now.

00:43:29.800 A bit of a slight backstory to it.

00:43:31.560 I remember I was researching something else.

00:43:33.180 God knows what.

00:43:34.760 And Carl came in and said, how about doing Pompey?

00:43:39.160 You know, just an idea.

00:43:40.080 And I was like, yeah, okay, I could do that.

00:43:41.760 Sure.

00:43:41.960 Or thinking he meant next week or some point in the future.

00:43:44.600 And he was like, okay, tomorrow, though.

00:43:46.540 And I was like, yeah, okay.

00:43:50.080 I mean, I know Pompey inside out.

00:43:51.600 But I'll just spend between now and when we start recording,

00:43:55.120 reading nothing else, doing nothing else.

00:43:57.220 So I remember that.

00:43:57.840 But it's a good one.

00:43:58.760 Carl's a big, big fan of Pompey.

00:44:00.640 Pompey's one of Carl's favorites.

00:44:02.260 And I think Pompey's all right.

00:44:03.940 Well, it's definitely interesting.

00:44:05.980 Definitely fascinating.

00:44:07.680 But I'm not like a giant Pompey partisan.

00:44:10.760 Whereas Carl almost is.

00:44:12.980 So we had a slightly different take on how much we would stan for Pompey Magnus.

00:44:22.280 There you go.

00:44:22.940 Great bit of content.

00:44:24.140 Again, one of the better ones, I would have thought.

00:44:26.000 They're all great.

00:44:26.520 In and around the same age.

00:44:28.880 Obviously, it's about a generation later.

00:44:30.520 But I decided I wanted to do Mark Antony.

00:44:32.480 The Marcus Antonius, who goes to war with Augustus and marries Cleopatra.

00:44:38.280 A great, great story.

00:44:42.200 Then I did the life of Agrippa.

00:44:44.260 Again, I'm sort of working around Augustus and Caesar here, really.

00:44:48.620 You can see that.

00:44:49.780 I'm sort of talking about the people around them.

00:44:52.540 Marcus Agrippa, who is, you know, Augustus' right-hand man.

00:44:56.880 He's top general.

00:44:57.920 Who defeats Mark Antony.

00:44:59.500 You know, the life of Mark Antony and Agrippa are sort of entwined a bit.

00:45:02.120 So, there you go.

00:45:03.840 I was on an ancient Roman kick.

00:45:05.840 Then I started looking at doing things all about the English monarchy.

00:45:11.040 Sort of medieval, early medieval, higher medieval, English monarchy type stuff.

00:45:17.480 So, I did the life of William Marshall.

00:45:19.420 Brilliant.

00:45:20.280 One of my favourite people from all of history.

00:45:23.000 William the Marshall.

00:45:24.280 Or just William Marshall.

00:45:25.780 Henry II's great warrior.

00:45:29.140 The greatest knight in Christendom.

00:45:32.120 And then Richard I.

00:45:34.360 And then King John.

00:45:36.580 And then even he was the ward of, what, Henry III.

00:45:42.140 Fascinating.

00:45:42.820 Absolutely fascinating life.

00:45:43.880 One of the greatest knights in Christendom.

00:45:45.920 And went from basically a nobody to regent of England.

00:45:52.640 Through sheer personal skill and ability.

00:45:57.180 Incredible life.

00:45:58.040 They all decided to do the life of Alfred the Great.

00:46:02.580 Again, a staple of English history.

00:46:04.440 Absolute staple of English history.

00:46:05.660 Yeah, then we went on a kick of quite a few episodes of talking about just carrying on the story.

00:46:12.580 Going after Alfred the Great.

00:46:14.880 Just what happens next.

00:46:16.780 I did an episode there that's just a general overview.

00:46:19.480 Kind of a general overview of Anglo-Saxon Britain.

00:46:22.520 But then start.

00:46:23.320 And then the next one is sort of drilling down a bit more into the life of Apple Stan.

00:46:27.680 Who's, you know, what?

00:46:28.740 He's the grandson, isn't he?

00:46:29.720 The grandson of Alfred the Great.

00:46:32.300 It's basically continuing the story on.

00:46:35.520 And then talk about sort of the end of the Anglo... 0.61

00:46:39.560 Ethel Red the Unready.

00:46:41.560 Right.

00:46:41.820 The end of the Anglo-Saxon period, basically.

00:46:46.760 Because it's after Ethel Red you've got... 0.63

00:46:48.760 It's not long before you've got King Harold and then Norman...

00:46:52.360 William the Conqueror, the Norman invasion.

00:46:55.160 So a few episodes there about the Anglo-Saxon period.

00:46:58.220 There was this Wheatley again.

00:46:59.280 Yeah, the other bit of episode I did with John Wheatley.

00:47:03.300 Was a parallel between Japan...

00:47:06.820 Because he knows loads about Japan.

00:47:07.860 He lived there and speaks a bit of Japanese.

00:47:11.020 And that's one of his things was Japan.

00:47:13.500 Even knowing all about their medieval history and things in detail.

00:47:17.000 And we did a parallel between English medieval history and Japanese medieval history.

00:47:22.960 And it's a very, very interesting bit of content, I thought.

00:47:25.820 Very, very interesting bit of content.

00:47:28.500 Yeah.

00:47:30.120 In fact, that's one I might even go back and re-watch.

00:47:32.720 I don't really re-watch my own content very much.

00:47:35.660 Occasionally I do, for some reason.

00:47:37.640 But usually I don't.

00:47:39.440 Because one, I've lived it.

00:47:40.660 And two, if I'm doing the post-production on it at all...

00:47:43.320 I've had to re-listen to it a number of times...

00:47:45.900 In the post-production process.

00:47:48.200 So the last thing I want to do is just listen to it again.

00:47:50.960 Because I'm not so vain.

00:47:51.960 And I want to listen to my own voice all that much.

00:47:55.180 So I usually, very rarely, to be honest, go back and watch them myself.

00:48:00.100 But once or twice I have done.

00:48:02.480 Once or twice my own bit of Epoch has popped up in my YouTube feed or something.

00:48:06.600 And I'm like, go on then.

00:48:08.340 But very rarely.

00:48:10.080 But that one I might.

00:48:11.080 That one I might.

00:48:12.180 Because I don't remember it that well other than the feeling that it was good.

00:48:15.540 The feeling that that was a good conversation.

00:48:18.720 That was an interesting conversation.

00:48:20.200 When you're making a bit of content, you sort of know.

00:48:23.060 Is this boring?

00:48:24.600 Is this interesting?

00:48:26.300 Is this going to be fun for anyone to listen to?

00:48:28.460 You sort of know when you make it.

00:48:30.520 And I remember the impression of that was that that was good.

00:48:34.320 That was a quality conversation there.

00:48:36.980 So, okay.

00:48:40.340 All right.

00:48:40.820 Went on to The Life of Canute.

00:48:42.980 Right.

00:48:43.180 So still in like the late Anglo-Saxon.

00:48:45.540 Well, the twilight of the Anglo-Saxon period.

00:48:48.040 Right.

00:48:48.180 Then I did a mini-series all about, with Josh it would have been.

00:48:52.540 Yep, yep.

00:48:52.900 With Josh.

00:48:53.920 A Bridge Too Far.

00:48:55.300 There's obviously the film A Bridge Too Far.

00:48:57.840 And the book A Bridge Too Far by Cornelius Ryan.

00:49:01.140 But then there's the real history of Operation Market Garden.

00:49:04.560 I.e. the Allies attempt to liberate Holland in World War II.

00:49:09.840 And get a bridgehead across the Ryan to be able to bounce into Germany and win the war.

00:49:14.320 Before Christmas 1944.

00:49:16.040 Page Four.

00:49:16.800 Which didn't work.

00:49:19.600 But I'm fascinated by the book and the film and the real history.

00:49:24.340 And Josh was interested in doing it.

00:49:26.560 Or sitting there letting me talk at him.

00:49:29.080 There's a few episodes of that.

00:49:30.220 How many?

00:49:32.020 Two.

00:49:32.920 Three.

00:49:33.500 Part three.

00:49:34.880 Part four.

00:49:35.740 So there's four parts all about Operation Market Garden there.

00:49:39.400 Again, if that's your bag.

00:49:41.680 Like World War II stuff.

00:49:43.340 I highly recommend it.

00:49:44.460 I think it's good.

00:49:45.000 I really do think it's good content.

00:49:46.600 All right.

00:49:46.860 Then we went back to Anglo-Saxon stuff.

00:49:49.900 Harold Hareford versus Hartha Canute.

00:49:52.800 Back with Carl again.

00:49:54.800 Just more Anglo-Saxon stuff.

00:49:56.920 Game of Thrones style stuff.

00:49:59.920 But obviously real.

00:50:01.940 Edward the Confessor.

00:50:03.580 Harold Hardrada.

00:50:04.720 We're getting into like the, you know, closer and closer to the conquest.

00:50:08.220 With Edward the Confessor.

00:50:10.320 And then Harold Hardrada.

00:50:13.120 Harold Hardrada.

00:50:14.100 Fascinating life.

00:50:15.440 Only the last little bit is like in England.

00:50:17.600 And getting himself killed in Northern England.

00:50:19.720 Beyond that.

00:50:20.820 So much more is interesting about the life and career of Harold Hardrada.

00:50:24.240 Okay.

00:50:25.500 Then we did the, just the early life of William the Conqueror.

00:50:31.760 Then we did a whole one just on the Battle of Hastings.

00:50:34.800 Well, it's William the Conqueror part two.

00:50:36.800 All right.

00:50:37.400 William the Conqueror's early life.

00:50:39.240 Then the pivotal point in his life, of course.

00:50:41.780 The Battle of Hastings.

00:50:43.540 And then did we go on.

00:50:44.460 Yeah.

00:50:44.620 After the battle.

00:50:45.320 What happens sort of fairly immediate, immediately after the Battle of Hastings.

00:50:49.060 So we're drilling down into it in fair amount of detail here.

00:50:52.720 Remember each one of these is long form.

00:50:55.040 What happened directly after the Battle of Hastings.

00:50:56.980 Then what happens in the years after.

00:50:59.960 You know, William the Conqueror part four.

00:51:01.560 All the rebellions.

00:51:02.460 Because he didn't just win the Battle of Hastings.

00:51:04.020 And then he's just king of England.

00:51:05.060 And that's it.

00:51:05.420 And everyone's fine with it.

00:51:06.660 No, no, no.

00:51:07.020 It's a very, very rocky road.

00:51:09.540 All right.

00:51:09.720 Part five of that.

00:51:11.940 William's later life.

00:51:12.820 What happened to him later in life.

00:51:13.840 Because he lives for like 20 years after the Battle of Hastings or more.

00:51:19.540 So here what happened towards the end of his life and all the various events.

00:51:22.500 His life was filled with events all the way to the end.

00:51:25.400 Then we did the Doomsday Book.

00:51:28.240 Anyone who knows about the Doomsday Book.

00:51:32.380 The Doomsday Book.

00:51:33.640 This episode.

00:51:34.380 This episode.

00:51:39.700 Now.

00:51:41.780 I don't think any of my Epochs content is boring.

00:51:46.540 I wouldn't make it and I certainly wouldn't put it out if I thought it was boring.

00:51:50.840 But that's one of the only episodes that I can recall where I saw any comments where people said this is dull, this is boring.

00:51:57.620 And it wasn't many comments.

00:52:00.540 It wasn't like a unanimous opinion.

00:52:02.900 It was only one or two here or there.

00:52:05.400 And it's one of the only episodes where I've seen that at all.

00:52:08.960 Basically never get people saying this is dull, this is boring.

00:52:14.580 You're boring me.

00:52:17.240 You know, 99.99% of the time I don't get that.

00:52:20.520 Which is nice.

00:52:21.520 Which is lovely.

00:52:23.140 That's exactly what I'm aiming for.

00:52:25.640 Whatever it is.

00:52:26.840 I'd rather it be slop than boring.

00:52:29.020 I hope it's neither.

00:52:32.040 I hope it's genuinely quality content.

00:52:35.260 But that Doomsday Book one.

00:52:36.660 Again, I didn't think it was.

00:52:37.720 I thought it was fascinating.

00:52:39.380 I wouldn't make content if I didn't think it was interesting.

00:52:41.840 There's one or two comments on that one.

00:52:43.880 When I said it was boring.

00:52:47.400 I guess maybe if it's not your bag.

00:52:48.760 If you're not into the 11th century England.

00:52:51.920 Yeah, maybe you might find it boring.

00:52:55.280 Maybe it's just that.

00:52:55.940 I don't know.

00:52:57.100 But I do remember seeing a comment or two.

00:52:59.760 Alright, well.

00:53:00.500 It's what it is.

00:53:00.860 You can't be perfect.

00:53:01.500 You can't win them all, can you?

00:53:05.460 Right.

00:53:05.900 What was this one?

00:53:09.020 I think this was...

00:53:10.420 Oh, yeah.

00:53:10.780 So this next episode, it was Remembrance Day.

00:53:13.720 Look, it was actually published on the 11th of November.

00:53:16.780 So me and Cole did a conversation about the armistice.

00:53:20.220 And about the very, very end of World War I, like 1918.

00:53:22.880 How World War I came to an end.

00:53:24.840 All the events leading up to the Germans finally signing an armistice in 1918.

00:53:31.860 Because we realised, we knew ahead of time,

00:53:34.200 that it was going to go out naturally on a Sunday.

00:53:37.080 It was going to go out on the 11th.

00:53:38.580 It was going to go out on Remembrance Sunday.

00:53:40.280 So we did a bit of content for that, basically.

00:53:44.940 Then we go back to...

00:53:47.060 Then I go back to my...

00:53:48.920 What became now a long-standing and still-continuing set of series about the English monarchy.

00:53:56.360 Right.

00:53:56.520 So remember, we went all the way back to Alfred the Great.

00:53:59.220 Went all the way through people like Athelstan and Canute.

00:54:03.260 Right.

00:54:03.560 Did loads on William the Conqueror.

00:54:06.300 So just continuing that.

00:54:08.740 So William Rufus.

00:54:10.220 William II.

00:54:11.040 The next guy.

00:54:11.880 The next king.

00:54:12.380 After William the Conqueror.

00:54:14.620 His son.

00:54:15.540 Another William.

00:54:16.160 William II.

00:54:16.820 William the Red.

00:54:18.320 William Rufus.

00:54:19.060 All about him.

00:54:21.360 Quite a bad king.

00:54:23.020 Seems to be quite...

00:54:23.780 Probably...

00:54:24.340 Quite tyrannical.

00:54:25.620 Got himself murdered, probably.

00:54:29.240 Assassinated.

00:54:30.460 Then we just moved on.

00:54:31.220 Did the next one.

00:54:31.940 Did the next king.

00:54:33.060 Henry I.

00:54:34.160 His little brother.

00:54:35.680 Another...

00:54:36.160 The next son.

00:54:37.200 The youngest son.

00:54:38.220 William the Conqueror.

00:54:39.660 Ruled for quite a long time.

00:54:41.080 Henry I.

00:54:42.220 Classic.

00:54:43.420 And then I did...

00:54:44.700 Yeah, this one was quite good.

00:54:45.700 This was a bit of a one-off.

00:54:46.540 Where I'd done a few weeks worth of that.

00:54:48.300 I thought I wanted to just a palate cleanse.

00:54:49.920 Let's do something completely different.

00:54:51.840 And I don't know why I challenged myself.

00:54:53.260 Because Chinese history isn't particularly my thing.

00:54:55.420 I have read about it and around it.

00:54:57.620 And am interested in it.

00:54:59.020 But I can't say I'm any sort of expert in it.

00:55:01.420 The way I can sort of at least mildly claim that.

00:55:04.760 Certainly for ancient history.

00:55:06.340 And for British English history.

00:55:08.540 I'm sort of very confident.

00:55:09.840 It's my wheelhouse.

00:55:12.120 I can't really say that about Chinese history.

00:55:14.420 Despite how much I have read.

00:55:16.540 And watched documentaries and things.

00:55:18.460 And all about it.

00:55:19.160 Anyway.

00:55:19.640 For whatever reason I decided.

00:55:20.840 I'll do something a bit different.

00:55:22.160 I'll do the first Chinese emperor.

00:55:25.340 And the story of the first emperor.

00:55:33.120 A fascinating.

00:55:34.160 Absolutely fascinating life.

00:55:36.680 You know.

00:55:36.920 It's up there with like Augustus or something.

00:55:39.580 It's not just the first emperor.

00:55:40.880 So it's someone worthy of note.

00:55:43.200 It's also an incredible story.

00:55:45.600 In and of its own right.

00:55:48.580 That's like.

00:55:49.160 It's in the 2nd century BC.

00:55:51.660 So it's ancient history still.

00:55:52.860 But Chinese ancient history.

00:55:54.320 I think.

00:55:55.000 I think I did that justice.

00:55:56.680 I think.

00:55:56.980 I hope I did.

00:55:58.880 Again.

00:55:59.420 I think that's among the better ones.

00:56:03.260 That's obviously for other people to decide.

00:56:05.660 Oh.

00:56:06.140 This was fun.

00:56:06.660 This was one of my very very favourites to record.

00:56:11.000 Doc Holliday.

00:56:12.240 A little bit of a backstory to that one.

00:56:13.420 I was in email correspondence with the quartering.

00:56:20.200 You know Jeremy at the quartering.

00:56:22.880 We'd had an email back and forth.

00:56:24.980 Only two or three emails back and forth.

00:56:26.980 Saying would you come on.

00:56:27.840 Would you be a guest.

00:56:28.760 Like Critical Drinker or Mauler.

00:56:30.360 Or Apostolic Manager or Dank. 0.97

00:56:32.700 Would you come on and talk to me about history sometime.

00:56:34.620 And he was like yeah sure.

00:56:36.140 I was like.

00:56:36.500 I've noticed you've said before a few times on your.

00:56:39.820 In your content.

00:56:41.180 That you're.

00:56:41.680 That you love Doc Holliday.

00:56:43.920 I'm like.

00:56:44.360 I love Doc Holliday.

00:56:45.340 I love the Wild West.

00:56:46.760 I love the story of Wyatt Earp.

00:56:49.020 And all that.

00:56:50.640 Would you come on and do Doc Holliday.

00:56:53.100 And anyway.

00:56:53.600 It just didn't happen.

00:56:54.220 It fell apart.

00:56:55.140 He.

00:56:56.140 Didn't reply for a while.

00:56:57.680 And.

00:56:58.400 It just.

00:56:58.700 It just fell apart.

00:56:59.500 That happens loads.

00:57:00.360 That does happen loads.

00:57:01.660 No one's fault particularly or anything.

00:57:03.360 You know.

00:57:04.200 I'm not having a go at Jeremy whatsoever.

00:57:05.820 I'd like him to come on at some point.

00:57:07.140 And have a conversation with him.

00:57:08.100 I'm a fan.

00:57:09.380 Whatever happens.

00:57:10.120 It didn't happen.

00:57:10.900 But I'd done the research for Doc Holliday.

00:57:12.700 All the reading really.

00:57:14.740 And so.

00:57:15.520 When I realised it wasn't going to happen.

00:57:17.260 I was like.

00:57:17.560 I'm still going to do it anyway.

00:57:19.580 I'm just going to make a bit of content about Doc Holliday anyway.

00:57:22.580 And Carl didn't know much about it at all.

00:57:24.320 So it's really me telling Carl the story from scratch.

00:57:28.560 Again.

00:57:29.020 I think that's among the better ones.

00:57:30.880 I certainly had.

00:57:32.440 A great deal of fun.

00:57:34.500 Reading.

00:57:35.280 And.

00:57:35.820 And doing it.

00:57:36.620 And recording it.

00:57:37.980 All right.

00:57:38.440 Then I decided I'd go back to sort of English heroes.

00:57:41.620 Clive of India.

00:57:42.740 The Battle of Cressy.

00:57:44.780 Brilliant story.

00:57:45.320 If you're a fan of England and English history.

00:57:48.020 And the Empire.

00:57:48.820 And all that sort of thing.

00:57:50.100 If you haven't got a chip on your shoulder about it.

00:57:52.000 Clive of India is.

00:57:52.720 One of the very best to ever do it.

00:57:57.240 Then I did one there.

00:57:58.440 The Battle of Kursk.

00:57:59.820 It was interrupted with something about Calvin Robinson.

00:58:01.840 Which I'll talk to you about in a minute.

00:58:03.080 But you see.

00:58:03.760 There's two episodes about the Battle of Kursk there.

00:58:06.280 The biggest ever tank engagement.

00:58:08.180 And the biggest ever aerial combat.

00:58:10.920 Happened at the Battle of Kursk.

00:58:12.280 Between the Nazis and the Soviets. 0.69

00:58:13.680 In World War II.

00:58:14.900 1943 is it.

00:58:16.220 The Kursk's alien. 0.98

00:58:17.600 I'm fascinated by it.

00:58:20.280 In the biggest battle of all time.

00:58:21.900 Arguably.

00:58:22.580 Depending on how you measure things.

00:58:25.360 This was one of the few.

00:58:26.900 Very few.

00:58:27.940 Where I got any sort of significant kickback from fans.

00:58:32.040 And it wasn't that bad.

00:58:34.480 But a few of them.

00:58:36.320 Tank bros. 0.97

00:58:37.980 People that know about tanks.

00:58:39.600 In tons and tons of detail.

00:58:41.580 There's a whole sort of subculture of people.

00:58:43.380 That just love tanks. 1.00

00:58:44.580 And my knowledge just wasn't really up to snuff.

00:58:48.460 For them.

00:58:49.200 Really.

00:58:50.640 Again.

00:58:51.120 It wasn't loads.

00:58:51.640 I didn't get tons of pushback.

00:58:53.640 You know.

00:58:54.240 And it wasn't really bad.

00:58:55.220 But a few comments.

00:58:56.760 A few comments.

00:58:57.540 Saying.

00:58:58.520 You've exposed yourself there.

00:58:59.860 For not really knowing that thing.

00:59:01.820 Whatever it was.

00:59:02.520 Properly.

00:59:04.660 Again.

00:59:05.080 It wasn't that bad.

00:59:05.640 I think there's still good content.

00:59:07.200 Well it is still good content.

00:59:08.860 But if you're a massive.

00:59:10.060 Massive tank nerd.

00:59:12.060 You might.

00:59:12.880 Be ever so slightly disappointed.

00:59:15.040 That I didn't go into.

00:59:15.880 Sort of the technical side.

00:59:16.880 More.

00:59:17.540 Of tanks.

00:59:18.500 Because that's what the story is really all about.

00:59:20.800 Giant giant tank engagement.

00:59:22.220 Tank versus tank.

00:59:23.920 Jewels.

00:59:24.600 On a giant scale.

00:59:27.240 On the Eurasian steppe.

00:59:28.700 Between the Soviets and the Nazis. 0.65

00:59:31.080 Yeah.

00:59:32.500 I still think it's good.

00:59:33.380 Again.

00:59:33.660 Was it Christmas?

00:59:34.660 Was it?

00:59:36.420 Yeah.

00:59:36.920 25th of December.

00:59:37.760 So again.

00:59:38.160 We knew that that Sunday.

00:59:39.020 Would be Christmas Day.

00:59:40.900 So I made.

00:59:41.980 A bit of content.

00:59:42.700 Obviously they're all pre-recorded.

00:59:44.600 And made a bit of content.

00:59:45.540 With Calvin Robinson.

00:59:46.420 The father Calvin Robinson.

00:59:47.600 Who's a friend of the.

00:59:49.060 Show of course.

00:59:50.280 I mean.

00:59:50.560 Well he had a show.

00:59:51.260 Didn't he?

00:59:52.000 On Lotus Eaters.

00:59:52.860 For a while.

00:59:54.700 And so that was the first time.

00:59:55.820 I ever sat down.

00:59:56.560 With Calvin.

00:59:58.580 And we just talked about.

00:59:59.660 Christmas and Christianity a bit.

01:00:03.020 Yeah.

01:00:03.420 Good.

01:00:03.660 Good conversation.

01:00:04.840 Really enjoyed it.

01:00:05.780 Yeah.

01:00:05.960 Yeah.

01:00:06.100 Really enjoyed it.

01:00:08.180 A Christmas special.

01:00:10.180 All right.

01:00:10.800 That's part two of the Kursk thing.

01:00:12.560 Then I wanted to go back at that point.

01:00:13.900 In the new year.

01:00:14.500 I decided.

01:00:15.220 Go back to my wheelhouse.

01:00:16.520 Ancient Rome.

01:00:17.600 Let's do the Caesars.

01:00:18.900 A lot of the Caesars.

01:00:20.380 Again.

01:00:20.660 I missed out Augustus.

01:00:21.660 Because I was sort of saving him.

01:00:23.480 Saving him for some.

01:00:25.000 A couple of things in my mind.

01:00:28.140 I was like.

01:00:28.840 It's so good.

01:00:29.420 It's so big.

01:00:30.460 I want to save it.

01:00:31.220 The way Carl was like.

01:00:32.140 Let's not do the Iliad.

01:00:33.660 Yet.

01:00:34.220 Let's save that.

01:00:35.280 For sort of a special time.

01:00:36.260 I want to give it.

01:00:36.720 I want to do it so much justice.

01:00:38.160 That I want to reread it entirely.

01:00:40.240 And I want to.

01:00:41.280 Let's just not do it yet.

01:00:42.260 Let's keep it for.

01:00:43.240 Some sort of special thing.

01:00:44.500 That's what I had in my mind.

01:00:45.680 About Augustus.

01:00:47.340 He's so one of my favorites.

01:00:49.800 Right.

01:00:50.060 He's up there with.

01:00:50.920 Henry V.

01:00:52.220 Or maybe the Duke of Wellington.

01:00:53.900 Or something like that.

01:00:54.920 For me.

01:00:55.500 Personally.

01:00:56.540 It's like one of my personal.

01:00:57.460 Personal.

01:00:58.280 Heroes.

01:00:58.940 Or that.

01:00:59.700 I know so much about.

01:01:00.860 That I was.

01:01:01.500 Not quite afraid.

01:01:03.040 But like.

01:01:03.760 Just timid about doing it.

01:01:06.320 But the others.

01:01:07.220 Got no.

01:01:08.240 Got no.

01:01:09.680 Qualms about.

01:01:10.680 So I did the life of Tiberius. 0.93

01:01:12.380 Again.

01:01:12.660 One of the really.

01:01:13.360 Really bad emperors.

01:01:14.300 Not quite as bad as Caligula.

01:01:15.420 Or Nero.

01:01:15.900 But not far off.

01:01:17.120 You know.

01:01:17.400 In that ballpark.

01:01:19.820 So I did Nero. 0.57

01:01:20.800 I did.

01:01:21.920 Tiberius.

01:01:22.480 Then the very next emperor.

01:01:23.440 After Tiberius.

01:01:24.160 Is Caligula.

01:01:25.180 So I did Caligula there.

01:01:27.320 Very next emperor.

01:01:28.180 After Caligula.

01:01:28.760 Is Claudius.

01:01:30.140 So I do Claudius.

01:01:31.340 You can see the theme.

01:01:32.320 And then Nero.

01:01:34.800 Nero's the next one.

01:01:35.800 So I do Nero.

01:01:36.700 So I do.

01:01:38.440 The Julio Claudians. 0.64

01:01:40.380 From Tiberius to Nero.

01:01:41.460 Julio Claudians.

01:01:42.180 Boom.

01:01:42.380 Boom.

01:01:42.480 Boom.

01:01:42.580 Boom.

01:01:42.980 You're welcome.

01:01:45.500 All right.

01:01:47.300 Next one.

01:01:48.160 I decided to do.

01:01:50.020 Something a bit different.

01:01:50.960 So I've done.

01:01:51.560 The ancient world.

01:01:52.420 Now.

01:01:52.760 For quite a few weeks.

01:01:53.660 In a row.

01:01:54.160 Like a month.

01:01:54.720 Or more in a row.

01:01:55.320 So it's like.

01:01:55.900 I'll do something else now.

01:01:58.060 And I've always been fascinated by.

01:01:59.980 Captain Scott.

01:02:02.900 Scott of the Antarctic.

01:02:04.340 I've got content.

01:02:05.100 I'd already made content on it.

01:02:06.860 On my channel.

01:02:07.960 History Bro.

01:02:08.580 So I didn't.

01:02:09.100 Sort of knew it inside out.

01:02:10.180 Done the reading.

01:02:11.740 On it.

01:02:12.840 So I thought I'd sort of.

01:02:14.140 Do it for epochs.

01:02:15.900 Great story.

01:02:16.420 Fascinating story.

01:02:16.980 Again.

01:02:17.220 It's in the.

01:02:17.760 It's in the vein of.

01:02:18.840 An English.

01:02:20.820 British.

01:02:21.660 Hero.

01:02:22.780 Right.

01:02:23.000 It's part.

01:02:23.680 Sort of part of that.

01:02:25.280 But obviously more modern.

01:02:26.540 Early 20th century.

01:02:27.660 There you go.

01:02:28.000 Captain Scott.

01:02:29.520 And then once I've done Scott.

01:02:30.900 As you can see.

01:02:31.620 The way these things often go.

01:02:32.660 Do something similar.

01:02:34.360 Adjacent to it.

01:02:35.480 Did Shackleton next.

01:02:38.140 And then I did.

01:02:39.120 Conquering Everest.

01:02:40.400 Like.

01:02:41.640 Edmund Hillary.

01:02:43.120 And Mallory. 0.90

01:02:43.940 And the story of.

01:02:45.680 People first.

01:02:46.340 And Tenzing Nogget. 0.82

01:02:47.300 People first.

01:02:48.700 Summiting Everest.

01:02:49.960 Talk all about Everest.

01:02:50.760 So.

01:02:51.180 Those three in a row.

01:02:52.040 Are sort of a mini series.

01:02:53.060 Even though they're not.

01:02:53.660 Exactly connected.

01:02:55.560 Scott Shackleton.

01:02:56.840 And.

01:02:57.640 Hillary.

01:03:00.240 There you go.

01:03:00.580 I mean.

01:03:00.740 Hillary's a. 0.99

01:03:01.260 A Kiwi. 1.00

01:03:02.040 Isn't he?

01:03:02.260 He's not British. 1.00

01:03:02.860 But still.

01:03:03.420 Still.

01:03:03.800 Nonetheless.

01:03:05.380 Um.

01:03:06.500 I think those three episodes.

01:03:07.840 In a row there.

01:03:08.660 Are very good.

01:03:12.080 I don't think there's a funny one.

01:03:13.300 Dan Tubb started working for us.

01:03:16.220 He's still here.

01:03:17.300 And we wanted to do a bit.

01:03:18.360 Again.

01:03:18.760 I throw it out there.

01:03:19.280 If you ever.

01:03:19.640 There's anything interesting about history.

01:03:20.900 You want to talk about.

01:03:21.460 Let's do it.

01:03:22.520 I'll appear on your show.

01:03:23.540 You can appear on mine.

01:03:24.360 Etc.

01:03:24.640 Etc.

01:03:25.340 And he wanted to talk about.

01:03:27.380 Um.

01:03:28.500 Because his thing is economics.

01:03:29.680 Isn't it?

01:03:30.260 Economics and markets and money.

01:03:32.520 And.

01:03:32.980 All that sort of thing.

01:03:34.100 And I think in history.

01:03:35.340 That's fascinating.

01:03:36.240 On that side of things.

01:03:38.380 Is.

01:03:39.300 The.

01:03:39.540 The tulip bubble.

01:03:41.920 If you've never heard of that.

01:03:43.140 In the.

01:03:43.700 What would it be?

01:03:44.400 The.

01:03:45.480 18th century.

01:03:46.260 Would it be?

01:03:48.140 I think maybe the 18th century.

01:03:49.960 In Holland.

01:03:51.020 The market for buying bulbs.

01:03:53.640 For tulips.

01:03:54.460 The flower.

01:03:55.080 A tulip.

01:03:56.280 The bulb for the rare ones.

01:03:58.000 The market went through.

01:03:58.720 It was a bubble.

01:03:59.960 They became worth insane amounts.

01:04:01.820 You could.

01:04:02.220 You could.

01:04:03.380 They were worth the same as a house.

01:04:06.700 Like a single tulip bulb.

01:04:08.280 A rare one.

01:04:09.660 Anyway.

01:04:10.020 It's a classic example.

01:04:11.000 Of where you have.

01:04:12.660 Market bubbles.

01:04:17.200 Like the Wall Street crash.

01:04:18.240 A number of things.

01:04:18.760 So.

01:04:20.120 So yeah.

01:04:20.900 If.

01:04:21.100 Again.

01:04:21.280 If you're interested in.

01:04:22.160 The historical financial crisis.

01:04:23.600 Yeah.

01:04:23.740 It wasn't just the tulip one.

01:04:25.120 We also talked about.

01:04:26.080 I think.

01:04:26.420 If I recall.

01:04:27.620 The Wall Street crash.

01:04:29.320 And there's been other.

01:04:31.600 Bubbles.

01:04:32.160 And crashes.

01:04:32.860 Throughout history.

01:04:33.620 Quite a lot of them actually.

01:04:35.220 We just talked all about that.

01:04:37.580 Again.

01:04:38.320 If that's your thing.

01:04:39.760 I think it's a great bit of content.

01:04:41.660 If it's not your thing.

01:04:43.780 Give it a pass.

01:04:45.680 All right.

01:04:46.180 Then I did.

01:04:47.440 One.

01:04:48.120 I can't remember if me or Carl decided to do it.

01:04:49.760 I think maybe it was a.

01:04:50.460 Sort of basically a joint decision.

01:04:51.980 We were both like.

01:04:52.460 Should we do that one?

01:04:53.200 And we were both like.

01:04:53.660 Yes.

01:04:53.820 Let's do that one.

01:04:54.840 It's a story of William Wilberforce.

01:04:56.440 And the abolition of slavery.

01:05:01.760 Again.

01:05:02.240 If that interests you.

01:05:03.420 I think that's a very good one.

01:05:06.340 The Alamo.

01:05:06.960 I'm half American.

01:05:07.960 So I.

01:05:08.980 Sometimes.

01:05:09.600 Want to do.

01:05:10.160 And I've read loads about American history.

01:05:12.800 Civil War.

01:05:13.380 The first video I ever made.

01:05:14.620 On History Bro.

01:05:15.140 Was about the American Civil War.

01:05:16.820 I know a lot about American history.

01:05:18.560 Right.

01:05:18.740 I.

01:05:19.720 Again.

01:05:20.340 Where it's my heritage.

01:05:21.620 My family.

01:05:22.780 I'm going to be reading.

01:05:24.720 More about American history.

01:05:25.800 Than your average English history nerd.

01:05:28.860 And the Alamo is just a great story.

01:05:30.720 Brilliant.

01:05:31.040 Brilliant.

01:05:31.320 Last stand story.

01:05:33.400 So I did well on that.

01:05:34.360 I did well on that.

01:05:35.020 There you go.

01:05:35.800 Then was this with Josh?

01:05:36.540 Yeah.

01:05:36.960 Then Josh.

01:05:38.220 Another conversation with Josh.

01:05:39.640 Josh is fascinated by.

01:05:42.260 Truly.

01:05:42.800 Truly.

01:05:43.120 Ancient history.

01:05:43.720 Like prehistory.

01:05:45.060 Like the earliest.

01:05:46.260 Things like the earliest humans ever.

01:05:48.820 We've got all sorts of content on his.

01:05:50.320 His show.

01:05:50.840 Contemplations about.

01:05:52.520 The earliest humans.

01:05:54.540 Missing links.

01:05:55.360 Like Neanderthals. 0.95

01:05:57.400 And Homo erectus.

01:05:58.720 And Australopithecus.

01:06:00.240 And.

01:06:01.060 Prehistory.

01:06:01.940 Basically.

01:06:03.500 And so he was fascinated by the oldest things.

01:06:07.620 And Gobekli Tepe.

01:06:11.040 I think.

01:06:11.860 That's one of the better ones.

01:06:13.460 One of the more interesting ones.

01:06:15.100 Where we both just know a fair bit about Gobekli Tepe.

01:06:18.140 And we talk all about.

01:06:18.980 That is.

01:06:19.320 If you don't know.

01:06:20.920 One of.

01:06:21.640 If not arguably.

01:06:22.500 The oldest.

01:06:24.500 Like architecture.

01:06:25.640 There is.

01:06:25.940 Architecture.

01:06:26.400 It's like a.

01:06:27.400 I think it's a temple.

01:06:28.420 We're not even sure if it's a temple.

01:06:29.580 But whatever it is.

01:06:30.940 Some of the oldest stonework.

01:06:33.340 Ever.

01:06:34.200 Like going back to like.

01:06:35.120 What?

01:06:35.420 10,000 BC.

01:06:36.440 Is it?

01:06:37.240 You know.

01:06:37.520 It predates Ur.

01:06:38.840 Or Uruk.

01:06:39.880 Or it predates Jericho.

01:06:41.180 Or anything like that.

01:06:42.840 They're basically hunter-gatherer peoples.

01:06:44.320 It predates pottery.

01:06:45.380 Predates writing.

01:06:46.300 It's basically hunter-gatherer people.

01:06:50.620 Did build some sort of structure.

01:06:52.640 That's how old it is.

01:06:53.500 Gobekli Tepe.

01:06:54.940 Again.

01:06:55.620 I find it absolutely fascinating.

01:06:59.540 Okay.

01:07:00.220 There was that.

01:07:00.780 With Josh.

01:07:03.200 And then.

01:07:04.200 Again.

01:07:04.440 In the sort of the same vein.

01:07:06.780 Started talking to Carl about the earliest.

01:07:09.060 The actual earliest cities.

01:07:10.120 Proper cities.

01:07:10.620 Like the Sumerians. 0.99

01:07:12.800 Like places like Ur.

01:07:13.900 And Uruk.

01:07:14.940 In Mesopotamia.

01:07:16.200 Southern Iraq.

01:07:17.020 Basically.

01:07:17.800 The oldest.

01:07:18.480 The oldest cities.

01:07:20.740 And then around episode 100.

01:07:23.540 We changed it.

01:07:24.320 You can see we changed the thumbnail.

01:07:25.460 The design of thumbnail.

01:07:26.440 Or at least for that one.

01:07:27.220 And for episode 100.

01:07:30.160 I've been talking to Carl about this ever since day one.

01:07:32.080 You know.

01:07:32.240 We're nearly two years into it now.

01:07:35.100 I wanted to do an episode about Sargon of Akkad.

01:07:39.180 With Sargon of Akkad. 0.73

01:07:40.580 Right.

01:07:41.280 Sargon.

01:07:42.260 Sargon on Sargon.

01:07:45.220 And Carl's always like.

01:07:46.180 Yeah.

01:07:46.340 We'll do it.

01:07:46.700 He never ruled it out.

01:07:47.720 But he wasn't breaking his neck to do it.

01:07:50.140 Although he does find that.

01:07:52.100 Period of history fascinating.

01:07:54.160 He wouldn't have.

01:07:54.680 You know.

01:07:55.040 He wouldn't have chosen that name if he didn't.

01:07:57.140 But he wasn't breaking his neck to do it.

01:07:59.200 But in the end.

01:07:59.820 I talked him into it.

01:08:00.860 Like a long time before episode 100.

01:08:02.540 I was like.

01:08:02.920 Can we do it for episode 100?

01:08:04.080 And he was like.

01:08:04.440 Alright.

01:08:04.820 Go on then.

01:08:07.420 So he did that.

01:08:08.300 Me and Carl talking about Sargon of Akkad.

01:08:10.400 The historical figure.

01:08:12.220 Sargon of Akkad.

01:08:13.840 With Carl.

01:08:14.960 Sargon of Akkad.

01:08:15.660 Benjamin.

01:08:16.060 You get it.

01:08:16.820 Episode 100.

01:08:17.800 Like this episode 250.

01:08:19.160 Something a bit different.

01:08:20.220 Something hopefully a bit.

01:08:22.080 A bit more eye catching.

01:08:23.520 Or whatever.

01:08:24.420 So there you go.

01:08:25.360 Then me and Carl.

01:08:26.680 Went to.

01:08:27.340 We've been talking about this since day one as well.

01:08:28.940 But only really got around to it.

01:08:30.040 Almost two years later.

01:08:31.700 Was going to physically visit.

01:08:33.840 The British Museum.

01:08:35.200 Like actually physically go there.

01:08:36.840 In person.

01:08:37.840 Get someone else.

01:08:39.120 John Wong was it.

01:08:41.220 Get someone else to.

01:08:45.420 Oh no.

01:08:45.920 That's a bit later on.

01:08:46.740 Sorry.

01:08:47.000 We did do that.

01:08:47.560 The British Museum.

01:08:47.960 We'll get to that later.

01:08:50.440 But Carl wanted to carry on talking about after Sargon.

01:08:53.240 Just talk about the Assyrians.

01:08:55.240 Yeah.

01:08:55.460 This was definitely Carl's pick.

01:08:56.880 But I was happy to love it.

01:08:58.200 Again.

01:08:58.440 It's a staple of ancient history.

01:09:00.420 If you want to call yourself an ancient history nerd.

01:09:02.200 You need to know all about the Assyrians.

01:09:04.820 Not Syrians. 1.00

01:09:05.820 Assyrians. 0.77

01:09:06.300 Completely different thing.

01:09:06.960 So yeah.

01:09:08.380 We did like part one.

01:09:09.520 Part two.

01:09:10.700 Part three.

01:09:11.780 Part four.

01:09:12.980 Is there any more?

01:09:13.980 Part five.

01:09:14.980 So five part series.

01:09:16.340 Just about the Assyrians. 0.54

01:09:19.960 For me.

01:09:20.980 Fascinating.

01:09:22.300 Dan Tubb came back.

01:09:23.220 We did another economics based history thing.

01:09:26.160 Oh this one was purely on the Wall Street crash.

01:09:28.520 Looking at the Wall Street crash in real detail.

01:09:31.240 I very much enjoyed doing that.

01:09:34.680 What next?

01:09:35.740 We had.

01:09:36.780 I think this was me on my own.

01:09:38.300 Oh no.

01:09:38.540 Sorry.

01:09:38.700 It was with Apostolic Majesty. 0.59

01:09:39.500 We got AM back.

01:09:41.080 The great AM.

01:09:42.060 Just to talk about Lenin.

01:09:44.100 Because there's so much to say about Lenin.

01:09:45.760 And around Lenin.

01:09:47.920 So much that can be said.

01:09:50.360 So that was a brilliant conversation.

01:09:51.640 As always.

01:09:52.420 AM brings the goods.

01:09:55.240 Can't fault it.

01:09:56.640 Quality.

01:09:57.160 Quality stuff.

01:09:58.900 Alright.

01:09:59.160 Then this was the first.

01:09:59.980 And I think only one I've ever done with Harry.

01:10:01.900 Big Harry.

01:10:02.460 Harry Robinson.

01:10:04.040 Where at the time he was researching.

01:10:05.580 And was reading all about.

01:10:06.380 And was fascinated in.

01:10:07.800 The Spanish Civil War.

01:10:09.500 Of the 20th century.

01:10:10.540 When Franco beat the fascists.

01:10:12.180 Beat the communists.

01:10:13.300 In Spain.

01:10:15.580 And I've been fascinated by that.

01:10:17.340 If you need to know.

01:10:18.360 If you want to be a history nerd.

01:10:19.300 About World War II.

01:10:20.360 And World War I.

01:10:21.580 You need to know everything that happened.

01:10:22.840 Between the wars.

01:10:23.740 Right.

01:10:24.700 I mean I did.

01:10:25.600 An A level in modern history.

01:10:27.620 So I even studied the period a bit.

01:10:29.820 Only at A level.

01:10:30.820 Level.

01:10:31.200 But still.

01:10:32.200 After that.

01:10:33.060 All the years after.

01:10:34.620 Still read around it.

01:10:36.280 Fascinated by it.

01:10:37.140 So.

01:10:37.280 He wanted to do something.

01:10:39.020 Somehow we came to a decision.

01:10:40.120 Should we talk about the Spanish Civil War.

01:10:41.900 He was like.

01:10:42.280 Yes.

01:10:42.480 That would be great.

01:10:43.260 So again.

01:10:43.520 It's mainly me.

01:10:45.180 Telling him.

01:10:46.060 About it all.

01:10:48.000 It's sort of gracious enough.

01:10:48.960 To sort of sit there.

01:10:49.560 And listen to me politely.

01:10:52.540 Once again.

01:10:53.500 If you're fascinated in that.

01:10:54.480 If you're interested in that.

01:10:56.380 Very very good bit of content.

01:10:57.640 If that's really not your bag.

01:10:58.560 You can care less about Franco and Spain.

01:11:00.220 Then give it a miss. 0.99

01:11:02.880 But if you do like it.

01:11:05.620 I think it's a very good one.

01:11:07.600 You know.

01:11:07.760 Very highly researched.

01:11:08.980 All sorts of quotes from all over the place.

01:11:11.380 I think.

01:11:13.160 Alright.

01:11:13.640 What's the next one?

01:11:14.720 So I go back to the.

01:11:18.020 Where I've made.

01:11:18.660 I made some content about William Marshall.

01:11:21.400 Remember that.

01:11:21.860 And William Marshall is.

01:11:23.300 Connected to Henry II.

01:11:25.420 I decided at some point.

01:11:26.440 I wanted to do Henry II.

01:11:27.700 But I really wanted to do.

01:11:29.280 People around him first.

01:11:30.740 A bit like.

01:11:31.380 Do people around Augustus.

01:11:33.120 And then when I finally do.

01:11:35.080 The Augustus.

01:11:35.960 Or Henry II.

01:11:36.740 I've already.

01:11:38.900 Filled in loads of the picture already.

01:11:41.820 So anyway.

01:11:42.120 That's what I decided to do.

01:11:43.080 To do the life of Eleanor of Aquitaine.

01:11:46.180 Who was Henry II's wife.

01:11:47.880 And the mother of Richard the Lionheart.

01:11:49.620 And King John.

01:11:51.640 So.

01:11:52.080 Pivoted.

01:11:52.500 I think that's the first one.

01:11:53.460 Isn't it?

01:11:54.200 Where it's all about a woman. 0.99

01:11:56.500 Maybe there was one episode.

01:11:57.580 That was largely about.

01:11:59.660 Joan of Arc.

01:12:01.280 But this one is entirely.

01:12:02.500 Sort of a biography of a woman.

01:12:04.440 I think it's the first one.

01:12:06.740 There you go.

01:12:08.720 After that.

01:12:09.620 There was one person.

01:12:11.300 There was one person.

01:12:12.400 One fan of Epochs.

01:12:13.980 Who had said.

01:12:15.640 For ages.

01:12:16.620 And I've got two or three people like this.

01:12:17.900 And I will get round to you all at some point.

01:12:20.980 There was one person who had been asking for day one.

01:12:22.760 They'd been asking very insistently.

01:12:24.200 And very politely.

01:12:26.280 Can you do.

01:12:28.340 Can you do.

01:12:29.600 When Britain and Holland went to war with each other.

01:12:32.780 Three times.

01:12:33.900 In what?

01:12:34.560 The 17th century.

01:12:35.580 Or into the early 18th century.

01:12:38.920 And they were very persistent.

01:12:40.340 But.

01:12:41.120 And this is of key importance.

01:12:42.360 Very polite about it.

01:12:44.440 And I said I would.

01:12:46.180 And for like a year or more.

01:12:47.640 Just hadn't got round to it.

01:12:49.300 And then eventually.

01:12:50.060 Anyway.

01:12:50.340 I did.

01:12:51.380 And so.

01:12:53.320 I'm quite proud of that.

01:12:54.900 Quite proud of that episode.

01:12:56.000 I think that's a.

01:12:56.600 That's a good episode.

01:12:57.720 An interesting episode.

01:12:59.140 Most people don't know much about it.

01:13:00.520 So it should be interesting to you.

01:13:03.820 Then this is one with Connor Tomlinson.

01:13:05.340 When Connor Tomlinson worked for us.

01:13:07.500 Made a few bits of content with Connor.

01:13:09.680 But only one or two epochs.

01:13:12.200 I made more content with him about literature stuff.

01:13:15.300 Made one about the film Labyrinth with David Bowie.

01:13:18.900 Made a couple.

01:13:19.380 Made one with him about.

01:13:22.580 Animal Farm.

01:13:23.480 The George Orwell book.

01:13:24.800 And a couple of other things.

01:13:25.700 A couple of other films and books.

01:13:26.860 I made with Connor Tomlinson.

01:13:27.620 But only one or two.

01:13:29.080 I think maybe only one of actual epochs.

01:13:31.940 And we.

01:13:32.780 And he's interested in gangsters.

01:13:34.660 Like the mafia and stuff.

01:13:36.280 As am I.

01:13:37.480 And so.

01:13:38.500 Where we thought it might be a series.

01:13:40.460 We might go on to make.

01:13:42.280 Content about later.

01:13:44.560 Gangsters.

01:13:45.980 You know like into the.

01:13:47.840 70s and.

01:13:48.960 Even more modern ones.

01:13:50.040 But I thought I wanted to start with.

01:13:51.500 Sort of the OG.

01:13:52.640 The original gangster.

01:13:54.360 Of course it's not the original.

01:13:55.340 There were people before him of course.

01:13:56.480 But.

01:13:56.580 One of the highlights.

01:13:58.260 Of the story of the mafia.

01:13:59.780 In the United States.

01:14:01.440 Is.

01:14:02.360 Lucky Luciani.

01:14:03.780 Like he started.

01:14:04.840 The.

01:14:05.180 The commission.

01:14:06.840 He's the one that made.

01:14:07.760 Organised crime.

01:14:09.440 Organised.

01:14:10.360 That's what people say about it.

01:14:12.320 And fascinating life.

01:14:13.640 Ended up actually living.

01:14:15.040 And dying of natural causes.

01:14:16.220 In old age.

01:14:17.200 Very rare for these people.

01:14:20.120 Okay.

01:14:20.660 The next one.

01:14:21.220 This was with Josh.

01:14:24.160 That's quite long.

01:14:25.120 I think it's over two and a half hours.

01:14:26.340 Or something.

01:14:27.600 Now this episode.

01:14:28.480 Is a bit of an odd one.

01:14:30.140 A little bit.

01:14:30.760 Tiny bit anyway.

01:14:33.160 Because.

01:14:35.320 I really enjoyed it.

01:14:37.320 I really enjoyed reading about it.

01:14:38.560 I've read around.

01:14:39.280 I remember Waco myself.

01:14:40.580 For real.

01:14:41.460 Actually.

01:14:41.780 My childhood memories.

01:14:43.180 Read around it.

01:14:44.160 And watched documentaries around it.

01:14:45.320 For years since.

01:14:46.440 Did quite a lot of research for this.

01:14:48.200 As did Josh.

01:14:48.900 We made the episode.

01:14:50.960 I thought it was great.

01:14:51.860 I thought it was one of my best ones.

01:14:53.900 Put it out.

01:14:55.920 And it is the episode.

01:14:57.900 Where I got the most pushback.

01:15:00.000 In fact.

01:15:00.580 No other single.

01:15:01.800 Epochs episode.

01:15:02.760 Has had anywhere near.

01:15:04.340 The pushback.

01:15:04.580 I very.

01:15:04.960 Very rarely get any pushback.

01:15:06.820 Very rarely get any real.

01:15:08.260 Negative comments at all.

01:15:09.680 Really.

01:15:11.080 Other than the odd thing.

01:15:12.040 Here or there.

01:15:12.740 Again.

01:15:13.060 Can't please everyone.

01:15:13.640 But this is the only episode.

01:15:15.160 I would say.

01:15:16.380 Where.

01:15:17.300 A big chunk of people.

01:15:18.780 Weren't happy with it.

01:15:19.780 Weren't happy about it.

01:15:22.400 Because.

01:15:24.140 I basically took the piss.

01:15:25.680 Out of Seventh Day Adventists.

01:15:30.720 The Branch Davidians. 0.69

01:15:32.300 Are a branch of.

01:15:34.380 Christianity.

01:15:35.000 A branch of.

01:15:36.560 Seventh Day.

01:15:38.800 Adventists. 0.97

01:15:40.340 And.

01:15:41.600 I didn't even mean to.

01:15:43.180 I wasn't like.

01:15:43.980 Actively ridiculing them.

01:15:45.880 But I was just.

01:15:46.520 Pretty dismissive.

01:15:47.320 And flippant about.

01:15:48.660 About it.

01:15:50.240 Things like.

01:15:51.340 What was it?

01:15:51.940 Like.

01:15:53.680 Um.

01:15:54.680 That.

01:15:54.920 That.

01:15:55.120 That sort of.

01:15:55.800 Literal.

01:15:56.700 Interpretation.

01:15:57.160 Of the Bible.

01:15:57.960 That.

01:15:58.500 That.

01:15:58.920 Um.

01:15:59.880 Uh.

01:16:00.260 The revelation.

01:16:02.060 That.

01:16:02.640 On the day of judgment.

01:16:03.820 On rapture.

01:16:05.280 That.

01:16:05.580 How it's described.

01:16:06.340 In the Bible.

01:16:08.420 That.

01:16:08.940 That's literally.

01:16:09.700 Going to happen.

01:16:12.640 Right.

01:16:13.320 That.

01:16:13.340 That.

01:16:13.380 That.

01:16:13.580 That.

01:16:13.780 I can't remember.

01:16:14.460 The details of it now.

01:16:15.320 What is it?

01:16:15.720 It's all things like.

01:16:17.580 Uh.

01:16:17.980 The mountains will melt.

01:16:19.440 And all the rivers will boil.

01:16:20.760 And all the oceans will boil.

01:16:21.880 And.

01:16:22.660 Everyone will rise from the.

01:16:23.920 Everyone that's buried in the ground.

01:16:24.940 That's ever died.

01:16:25.560 Will rise from the dead.

01:16:26.580 And.

01:16:27.160 Christ will come down.

01:16:28.300 Literally.

01:16:28.740 Physically come down.

01:16:29.500 Out of the heavens.

01:16:30.880 And come and judge everyone.

01:16:32.080 And.

01:16:32.840 All this stuff.

01:16:33.480 That's in the.

01:16:34.060 The book of revelation.

01:16:34.880 Um.

01:16:37.000 And that.

01:16:37.680 Certain people.

01:16:38.540 Adventists. 0.97

01:16:40.000 Believe that's literally true.

01:16:42.220 And I was a bit flippant.

01:16:43.320 And dismissive.

01:16:44.180 About it.

01:16:45.560 Just saying that.

01:16:46.220 I was just said.

01:16:46.940 I don't.

01:16:47.640 That's nonsense isn't it?

01:16:50.000 That sort of angle.

01:16:51.280 I took with it.

01:16:52.280 And a lot of people didn't like that.

01:16:53.760 Quite a few people.

01:16:55.320 Didn't.

01:16:55.680 Didn't take too kindly.

01:16:57.680 To that.

01:16:58.920 Angle.

01:16:59.880 To that take.

01:17:00.560 But again.

01:17:01.040 You can't please everyone.

01:17:01.960 At some point.

01:17:02.660 You're going to.

01:17:03.260 Piss some people off.

01:17:04.800 I uh.

01:17:05.640 If I had my time again.

01:17:06.980 I would be a little bit more delicate.

01:17:08.560 About it.

01:17:10.400 There you go.

01:17:11.540 Amara got a couple of tiny details wrong.

01:17:14.560 They jumped all over that.

01:17:17.460 Like I said.

01:17:18.020 The book of revelations.

01:17:20.520 Not revelation.

01:17:22.240 You know.

01:17:22.800 It's.

01:17:23.160 Little.

01:17:24.000 Small.

01:17:24.560 Relatively I think.

01:17:25.300 Small details.

01:17:26.460 Here or there.

01:17:27.440 Slightly wrong.

01:17:28.960 Um.

01:17:29.940 Or the angle.

01:17:30.880 That it wasn't just a complete.

01:17:32.520 And utter massacre.

01:17:33.860 By the ATF.

01:17:34.820 And the FBI.

01:17:35.960 And the branch dividers.

01:17:37.220 Didn't really do anything wrong.

01:17:38.540 And aren't really responsible.

01:17:39.360 For their own.

01:17:40.680 Demise.

01:17:41.280 It was just.

01:17:41.680 Just a pure.

01:17:42.940 Active.

01:17:44.100 Evil.

01:17:44.680 By the federal.

01:17:46.140 Government.

01:17:46.460 Like the idea that that wasn't my angle.

01:17:50.840 Annoyed some people.

01:17:52.020 I was trying to be fair minded.

01:17:53.400 I was saying this is exactly what happened.

01:17:55.100 It's quite a long bit of content.

01:17:56.800 And I tried to drill into it in loads of detail.

01:17:58.580 Almost.

01:17:59.460 Moment by moment.

01:18:00.560 Certainly once the ATF.

01:18:02.180 And the FBI turned up.

01:18:03.520 Almost moment by moment.

01:18:04.280 This is what happened.

01:18:05.660 This is what happened next.

01:18:06.920 Da da da.

01:18:07.180 This caused that.

01:18:08.300 This person said that.

01:18:09.360 Or that.

01:18:09.680 Did it.

01:18:10.160 What.

01:18:11.100 Two and a half hours or whatever it is.

01:18:12.280 Loads of detail.

01:18:13.460 So I thought I'd done it fairly.

01:18:15.880 Fairly.

01:18:16.940 Not everyone enjoyed that one.

01:18:19.520 I thoroughly enjoyed recording it.

01:18:22.740 There you go.

01:18:23.520 All right.

01:18:24.720 Again.

01:18:25.200 Can't please everyone all the time.

01:18:27.880 So then I go back to talking around Henry II.

01:18:31.140 So there's one whole one about Thomas Beckett.

01:18:33.440 The troublesome priest.

01:18:34.760 Again if your thing is medieval English history.

01:18:40.520 Cracking video I would say.

01:18:42.760 Cracking.

01:18:44.920 All right.

01:18:45.360 What did I do then?

01:18:46.300 Is it.

01:18:47.220 This is just me on my own.

01:18:48.680 Because occasionally by this point.

01:18:50.040 Like two years odd in.

01:18:52.060 Sometimes Carl wouldn't want to do it every single week.

01:18:54.040 Or couldn't every single week.

01:18:56.640 So that one looks like it was on my own.

01:18:58.640 And I was just.

01:18:59.280 Oh no.

01:18:59.520 Sorry.

01:18:59.720 That's.

01:18:59.980 Sorry.

01:19:00.280 Says it right there doesn't it.

01:19:01.600 Rupert August.

01:19:04.720 Another.

01:19:05.160 Another sort of history YouTube.

01:19:07.440 A person.

01:19:08.480 A great guy.

01:19:09.700 Great guy.

01:19:10.420 Knows his stuff inside out.

01:19:12.100 Again just a guest came on.

01:19:14.080 Would you want to come on Epox?

01:19:16.140 Yes.

01:19:17.120 What do you fancy doing?

01:19:18.560 And he picked.

01:19:19.840 The Bourbon Restoration.

01:19:21.640 Because he knows it inside out.

01:19:23.340 So that's much more him talking than me.

01:19:25.680 He knows way more about it than I do.

01:19:28.780 Yeah.

01:19:29.340 Rupert.

01:19:30.140 I'd like to have you back on someday buddy.

01:19:32.360 Hit me up.

01:19:33.320 We'll have you back on.

01:19:34.220 No problem.

01:19:35.620 Lovely jubbly.

01:19:36.860 All right.

01:19:37.240 Then.

01:19:37.460 All right.

01:19:37.780 Then I did one with Dan Tubb.

01:19:38.880 Talking about Black Wednesday.

01:19:40.380 That's when.

01:19:41.520 John Major lost the pound.

01:19:44.400 When George Soros.

01:19:47.180 Had a blinking match with the Treasury.

01:19:49.680 And won.

01:19:51.580 The pound was massively devalued.

01:19:53.800 In the 1990s.

01:19:54.920 Black Wednesday.

01:19:55.880 There you go.

01:19:56.180 A bit of financial economic history.

01:19:59.060 An interesting story though.

01:20:00.520 Interesting story for sure.

01:20:04.140 Then I did the Battle of Blenheim.

01:20:05.620 John Churchill.

01:20:07.040 John Churchill.

01:20:07.280 Again.

01:20:07.660 A great sort of English history hero.

01:20:10.940 Something.

01:20:11.400 Someone like Clive of India.

01:20:12.760 Sort of level.

01:20:14.760 Great stuff if that's your thing.

01:20:16.120 Then continued the war.

01:20:19.920 Then continued the narrative going forward from there.

01:20:23.440 The War of the Spanish Succession.

01:20:25.480 I think fascinating story.

01:20:26.720 If you want to know about European history.

01:20:28.600 Understand early modern European history.

01:20:32.240 Really need to know about the War of the Spanish Succession.

01:20:35.340 Went on from there.

01:20:36.240 Talk about Robert Walpole.

01:20:37.260 The first ever Prime Minister.

01:20:39.000 Basically.

01:20:39.400 If you're interested in political history or English history at all.

01:20:45.360 A long life.

01:20:46.420 A long reign.

01:20:47.680 One of the greatest.

01:20:49.340 If not the greatest.

01:20:51.080 Arguably one of the greatest statesmen Britain ever had.

01:20:55.360 Robert Walpole.

01:20:56.340 Absolutely pivotal person.

01:20:58.520 For English history.

01:21:00.500 British history.

01:21:02.000 Then we decided for whatever reason to go back and talk about Rome.

01:21:05.800 The end of Rome.

01:21:06.840 Ancient.

01:21:07.640 Western Rome.

01:21:09.860 So we talk about the decline and fall there.

01:21:11.800 I think it was all about when Alaric.

01:21:14.800 Alaric the Goth.

01:21:15.920 Finally.

01:21:17.120 Conquers and sacks Rome for the first time.

01:21:20.920 In the 5th century is it.

01:21:24.660 The end of the decline and fall of Rome.

01:21:28.700 Then we went on.

01:21:29.640 It's a bit later in history.

01:21:30.680 But not all that much later.

01:21:32.060 Where Attila the Hun.

01:21:33.960 Comes crashing out of the east.

01:21:36.360 And.

01:21:37.700 Goes all the way through.

01:21:38.920 Sort of.

01:21:39.640 Europe.

01:21:40.320 Almost.

01:21:40.880 Basically.

01:21:41.480 Pretty much.

01:21:42.340 Very nearly sacks Rome.

01:21:44.580 Himself.

01:21:46.560 And it's only averted at the last minute.

01:21:48.060 So anyway.

01:21:48.520 A bit all about Attila the Hun.

01:21:49.500 If you want to know about Attila the Hun.

01:21:50.820 There you go.

01:21:51.320 That's there for you.

01:21:53.780 Then we decided to go back to.

01:21:57.020 Oh no.

01:21:57.340 This is with Luca.

01:21:58.140 So this would have been the first time.

01:21:59.480 I had Luca in.

01:22:00.940 Big fan of Luca.

01:22:02.860 You know.

01:22:03.520 I was the first person to have him in.

01:22:05.540 Into Lotus Eaters.

01:22:07.260 I happily take credit for that.

01:22:11.120 Yeah.

01:22:11.520 We'd made a bit of content.

01:22:12.860 Or two.

01:22:13.320 Maybe two bits of content.

01:22:14.300 For my history.

01:22:15.140 My own history channel.

01:22:16.480 History Bro.

01:22:17.000 I was like.

01:22:19.140 You've got to come on to Lotus Eaters at some point.

01:22:21.960 So we did.

01:22:22.860 And we decided.

01:22:23.880 Again.

01:22:24.080 I can't remember if it was him or me.

01:22:25.280 Or it was just like a symbiotic decision.

01:22:28.180 We just both decided somehow.

01:22:31.040 That we want to talk about Pitt the Younger.

01:22:33.740 Again.

01:22:34.000 One of our greatest statesmen of all time.

01:22:36.400 One of the greater prime ministers ever.

01:22:39.000 And it's all during the age of Napoleon.

01:22:41.080 We both know it inside out.

01:22:42.400 Both love the story.

01:22:43.300 The life of Pitt the Younger.

01:22:45.020 So we did what?

01:22:45.660 A two part?

01:22:46.200 Or was it even a three part?

01:22:47.480 Or two part series on that?

01:22:49.820 Fair few hours of me and Luca.

01:22:51.100 Talking about Pitt the Younger.

01:22:53.240 Alright.

01:22:53.620 And then.

01:22:54.500 Then go on to do the.

01:22:56.100 The war of the.

01:22:57.580 The Austrian succession.

01:22:59.440 And so that's really the career.

01:23:01.420 Life and career.

01:23:02.080 Frederick the Great.

01:23:03.100 Again.

01:23:03.840 Fascinating.

01:23:04.400 A titan of history.

01:23:06.360 Fascinating.

01:23:06.680 You want to know about European history.

01:23:09.320 And how we end up with.

01:23:11.160 You know.

01:23:11.440 Sort of like.

01:23:14.000 The.

01:23:14.220 Everything from Napoleon to World War I.

01:23:16.840 All that stuff.

01:23:17.920 Like you've.

01:23:18.260 You've got to know a bit about Frederick the Great.

01:23:20.280 Fascinating.

01:23:20.860 Fascinating.

01:23:21.480 Okay.

01:23:21.740 Then there was a little bit of a one-off.

01:23:23.180 With a very very fascinating.

01:23:24.540 Very very lovely chap.

01:23:25.960 Called Luke Parker.

01:23:27.260 Who knows all about the Battle of Kohima.

01:23:29.960 And he's involved in.

01:23:31.560 An organisation.

01:23:32.680 A charitable trust for some of the survivors.

01:23:34.900 People to remember.

01:23:36.120 The Battle of Kohima.

01:23:37.500 So he very politely asked to come in.

01:23:39.280 And talk to me all about that.

01:23:41.020 And it was a great conversation.

01:23:43.160 Battle of Kohima.

01:23:44.040 Very people who might not know.

01:23:46.000 It's when the Japanese. 0.99

01:23:47.500 Sort of attempted to invade India. 0.64

01:23:49.460 Basically.

01:23:50.000 One way or another.

01:23:50.920 There's much more to it than that.

01:23:52.400 That's low resolution.

01:23:53.580 And the British army.

01:23:55.240 And Indians. 0.99

01:23:56.840 Pushed them back.

01:23:58.600 And there was a big battle.

01:23:59.660 At a place called Kohima.

01:24:01.660 It was a very pivotal.

01:24:02.940 It was a very very pivotal part of the war.

01:24:06.120 Out in that part of the world.

01:24:07.320 In World War II.

01:24:07.820 But most people don't know about it.

01:24:10.080 Very much.

01:24:12.400 Just because it's just not as.

01:24:14.360 Sort of.

01:24:14.780 It's not as big as everything that happened in.

01:24:17.400 North Africa.

01:24:18.420 Or in Europe.

01:24:19.660 Or the Americans. 0.63

01:24:21.080 Jumping from islands.

01:24:22.280 Fighting the Japanese there.

01:24:23.440 It's just.

01:24:24.360 It's just not as well known.

01:24:25.580 Which is a real shame.

01:24:27.020 Because one.

01:24:27.920 It's fascinating.

01:24:30.180 And.

01:24:30.560 And two.

01:24:32.260 Those men.

01:24:35.060 They're real.

01:24:35.860 Bloody heroes.

01:24:39.100 And.

01:24:40.220 It's just a real shame.

01:24:41.600 It's sort of largely forgotten.

01:24:44.540 So I wanted to give that.

01:24:46.580 Do that a little bit of justice.

01:24:48.120 And Luke Parker.

01:24:49.640 Did very very well in that.

01:24:52.060 Okay.

01:24:52.360 A little bit of a one off then.

01:24:53.280 I then returned to.

01:24:54.500 Talk about Frederick the Great.

01:24:55.600 Basically.

01:24:56.080 The Seven Years War.

01:24:58.620 And then.

01:24:59.300 Then another sort of.

01:25:00.140 A little bit of a one off.

01:25:00.880 Where we had.

01:25:03.620 Shad.

01:25:04.520 Shadiversity.

01:25:06.240 Shad came.

01:25:06.880 Was over from Australia.

01:25:07.880 He's very good friends with Carl.

01:25:09.580 And friends with the channel.

01:25:10.900 And everything.

01:25:11.720 And he loves his history.

01:25:13.060 Doesn't he?

01:25:13.340 He loves his weapons.

01:25:14.360 He loves his castles.

01:25:16.140 All that sort of thing.

01:25:17.380 And I love castles as well.

01:25:19.380 That's sort of.

01:25:19.760 Again.

01:25:20.060 A true childhood.

01:25:22.280 Joy.

01:25:23.780 Visiting a castle.

01:25:25.040 Looking at books.

01:25:25.860 About castles.

01:25:27.260 Just.

01:25:27.620 Just a ruin of a castle.

01:25:28.860 To this day.

01:25:30.060 I love walking around.

01:25:31.020 A ruined abbey.

01:25:31.820 Or a ruined castle.

01:25:34.220 Well not even ruins.

01:25:34.980 If they're intact.

01:25:35.820 The more intact.

01:25:36.300 The better of course.

01:25:36.860 But.

01:25:37.300 Love castles.

01:25:38.520 Right.

01:25:38.840 Proper childhood.

01:25:41.800 Fascination.

01:25:42.200 And I think Shad is.

01:25:44.360 Well he is.

01:25:44.860 Very much in the same.

01:25:45.940 Sort of.

01:25:47.100 Space.

01:25:48.320 So when he was over.

01:25:49.800 I said.

01:25:50.180 You know.

01:25:50.440 Do you want to.

01:25:51.160 He was on the podcast.

01:25:52.620 I was like.

01:25:52.900 Do you want to.

01:25:53.580 Make a bit of.

01:25:54.900 History themed content.

01:25:56.120 Sit in the other room.

01:25:57.140 Talk to me about history.

01:25:57.940 For an hour or two.

01:25:58.980 Fancy it.

01:25:59.780 He was like.

01:26:00.080 Yeah.

01:26:00.260 Cool.

01:26:00.540 Sure.

01:26:01.520 Let's do castles.

01:26:02.300 So I put together a list.

01:26:03.540 Of my favourite castles.

01:26:04.720 Top ten I think.

01:26:05.600 Favourite castles.

01:26:07.460 And.

01:26:08.160 We just had a check.

01:26:09.040 Again.

01:26:09.380 If that's your thing.

01:26:10.120 If castles are your thing.

01:26:11.480 That's a bloody great bit of content.

01:26:12.940 You will love it.

01:26:15.140 If you don't care about castles.

01:26:17.380 One.

01:26:17.820 There's something wrong with you.

01:26:19.260 No I'm joking.

01:26:20.660 Two.

01:26:23.340 Give it a miss. 1.00

01:26:24.000 If you don't care about castles.

01:26:25.060 But if you do.

01:26:27.260 Very very interesting bit of content.

01:26:30.000 Alright.

01:26:30.460 Next there was.

01:26:31.260 I talked to.

01:26:32.680 I've talked to Tim Davies before.

01:26:34.400 Tim Davies.

01:26:35.040 If you don't know.

01:26:36.780 Is a retired fast jet pilot.

01:26:39.760 RAF.

01:26:40.740 Royal Navy and RAF officer.

01:26:43.660 He was a squadron leader.

01:26:46.580 He would teach other people.

01:26:48.560 How to fast.

01:26:49.460 How to fly fast jets.

01:26:53.940 Alright.

01:26:55.200 He was sort of.

01:26:56.360 One of the best of the best.

01:26:58.200 He knows red arrows.

01:26:59.280 He knows the people that are in the red arrows.

01:27:00.780 He would tell the red arrows.

01:27:03.680 Where they're going wrong.

01:27:05.120 That's the level.

01:27:06.040 Tim Davies is.

01:27:07.940 Right.

01:27:08.180 A proper.

01:27:11.000 Flying ace.

01:27:13.080 A real life.

01:27:15.040 Top gun.

01:27:17.880 Brilliant.

01:27:18.380 Brilliant guy.

01:27:19.020 Love him.

01:27:19.520 Love him to bits.

01:27:20.580 Fascinating.

01:27:20.940 On top of all of that.

01:27:23.100 Fascinating.

01:27:24.620 Anyway.

01:27:25.120 I made a bit of content with him.

01:27:26.340 A couple of bits of content with him before.

01:27:27.640 On my channel History Bro.

01:27:28.660 And again.

01:27:29.480 I was like.

01:27:29.880 Do you want to come in at some point?

01:27:31.280 Come and talk to me.

01:27:32.020 For an Epoch.

01:27:33.420 For Lotus Eaters.

01:27:34.600 And again.

01:27:34.980 Very gracious and generous with his time.

01:27:36.660 Said yes.

01:27:37.100 Sure.

01:27:37.260 We'll do that.

01:27:38.140 So we sat down there.

01:27:39.420 It's a long conversation.

01:27:40.280 All about the history of flight.

01:27:41.620 Both civil and aviation.

01:27:43.360 Going back to like.

01:27:44.300 The Wright Brothers.

01:27:45.720 All the way through to modern fast jets.

01:27:48.420 Picking the brain.

01:27:49.920 Of a fighter pilot.

01:27:51.980 Well.

01:27:52.360 Bomber pilot.

01:27:53.120 What?

01:27:53.720 A fast jet pilot.

01:27:56.360 Like.

01:27:56.820 What's this like?

01:27:57.500 What's it like to fly a jet?

01:27:59.560 Would you do this?

01:28:00.420 How would you do that?

01:28:00.960 How would you react in here?

01:28:02.080 What's your opinion on this and that?

01:28:04.320 And if that's your thing.

01:28:05.500 I think it's a brilliant bit of content.

01:28:07.680 If that's your thing.

01:28:09.160 All right.

01:28:10.720 Japan's path to Pearl Harbor.

01:28:12.160 This was one on my own.

01:28:13.320 It was one of the first ones.

01:28:14.580 Among the first ones.

01:28:15.600 Where I was just completely on my own.

01:28:17.120 Around this time.

01:28:18.640 Carl had decided.

01:28:19.640 He wasn't going to do it much anymore.

01:28:21.540 He didn't have the time.

01:28:22.880 Lotus Eaters had grown to such an extent.

01:28:25.240 That Carl's wearing many hats.

01:28:27.680 And of course he's got a family.

01:28:28.760 A big family.

01:28:30.080 And there's just too much.

01:28:31.720 It was just too much on his plate.

01:28:34.000 And I can do it on my own.

01:28:35.920 I can monologue forever.

01:28:37.300 Right.

01:28:37.600 This is my bag.

01:28:38.460 It's what I do.

01:28:40.500 It's what I did for History Bro before I even worked here.

01:28:43.240 So that's no problem for me.

01:28:46.620 So yeah.

01:28:47.500 This was one of the only ones where I got a tiny bit of pushback as well.

01:28:50.180 I've mispronounced a couple of things quite embarrassingly.

01:28:53.800 But still good.

01:28:54.740 I mean it's still fine.

01:28:55.720 That was the only problem with it really.

01:28:57.800 Mispronounced a couple of things.

01:28:59.520 That's nearly entirely good and fine.

01:29:01.760 But a couple of little areas.

01:29:03.880 Very, very, very mildly embarrassed about in that one.

01:29:06.920 But it's no big deal.

01:29:08.020 Whatever.

01:29:09.600 Once again if you're interested in that.

01:29:11.200 A bit of Japanese history.

01:29:14.240 Check that one out for sure.

01:29:15.500 All right.

01:29:17.840 Then I decided I was going to do.

01:29:20.280 Carl's still back there.

01:29:21.140 It's not like he never did it ever again.

01:29:23.240 But me and Carl decided we were going to finally.

01:29:26.200 We were saving.

01:29:26.900 There's a few we've been saving.

01:29:28.420 Like the Duke of Wellington.

01:29:29.920 And like Lord Nelson.

01:29:31.980 And I was saving Augustus.

01:29:33.220 We decided finally we was going to do Arthur Wellersley.

01:29:38.220 The first Duke of Wellington.

01:29:40.100 And this was the first time.

01:29:41.480 One of the only times.

01:29:42.720 One of only two or three or four times ever.

01:29:45.240 Where I've really had sort of butterflies in my stomach.

01:29:48.440 Before recording it.

01:29:49.940 And sort of the night before.

01:29:51.060 Sort of worrying about it a bit.

01:29:52.700 You know I've done all the reading.

01:29:54.120 I've done all the reading I could possibly do.

01:29:55.600 Within reason.

01:29:56.920 I've done all the reading.

01:29:57.420 I'm perfectly comfortable and happy with all my research.

01:30:01.120 And my knowledge.

01:30:02.800 My general knowledge in and around it.

01:30:04.360 And yet.

01:30:05.460 And yet still.

01:30:06.780 I've got some butterflies.

01:30:08.160 Because.

01:30:09.840 It's sort of the great man.

01:30:11.480 I've got to do it justice.

01:30:12.600 It's got to be great videos.

01:30:13.860 It's got to be a great bit of content.

01:30:15.820 A little bit of a feeling of.

01:30:17.780 I'm not worthy.

01:30:19.700 I'm not worthy to even dare.

01:30:21.820 To tell the story of the Duke of Wellington.

01:30:25.320 I mean.

01:30:25.720 That feeling wasn't strong enough.

01:30:27.080 To put me off.

01:30:27.940 Or to really scare me out of doing it.

01:30:30.360 It's not that.

01:30:31.240 I had a little bit.

01:30:31.980 A little bit of butterflies.

01:30:33.400 Which I don't really get.

01:30:34.340 I hardly ever get.

01:30:35.520 Hardly ever.

01:30:36.380 I think only two or three times ever have I had that.

01:30:39.540 But this was one of them.

01:30:41.240 This was one of them.

01:30:43.120 So.

01:30:44.160 When I did an interview with Dan Carlin.

01:30:47.020 For History Bro.

01:30:47.880 On my channel History Bro.

01:30:49.500 There's a long form conversation.

01:30:51.160 Two hours worth or whatever.

01:30:52.600 With me and Dan Carlin.

01:30:53.840 The.

01:30:55.020 You know about history.

01:30:56.080 And history themed.

01:30:57.780 Content Creators.

01:30:59.220 Dan Carlin is sort of one of the.

01:31:01.140 All time greats.

01:31:02.860 One of my heroes.

01:31:05.060 Not necessarily in his politics.

01:31:07.140 But in terms of making history themed content.

01:31:09.440 I think he's superb.

01:31:11.000 Again I don't agree with all his politics.

01:31:12.600 But.

01:31:13.120 As a storyteller.

01:31:14.500 And a historian.

01:31:16.660 One of my heroes.

01:31:18.940 And I got an interview with him.

01:31:21.120 And I bloody had butterflies that time.

01:31:23.300 It's like talking to someone you really really look up to.

01:31:27.340 A bit of a hero.

01:31:28.100 I mean.

01:31:29.220 Anyway.

01:31:29.800 Anyway.

01:31:30.360 So.

01:31:30.820 We did.

01:31:31.560 How many episodes was on the Duke of Wellington?

01:31:32.960 It was only two parts.

01:31:33.580 Three parts.

01:31:34.900 Three parts on the Duke of Wellington.

01:31:36.500 There you go.

01:31:37.560 Early life out in India.

01:31:39.160 Napoleon years.

01:31:40.560 And the later years when he was Prime Minister.

01:31:42.520 And old.

01:31:43.900 There you go.

01:31:44.260 Then.

01:31:46.840 Next.

01:31:48.400 Got the extreme privilege of chatting to one Mr. Godfrey Bloom.

01:31:53.420 Used to be an MEP.

01:31:55.460 And.

01:31:57.340 A fascinating person.

01:31:59.380 I love old Godders. 1.00

01:32:01.240 Absolutely love him.

01:32:02.400 He knows his stuff inside out.

01:32:05.100 Right.

01:32:06.420 He's a.

01:32:07.100 One of those people that I could anyway.

01:32:09.920 Just sit there and chat to you for hours and hours and hours and hours.

01:32:13.300 He could just chat to that man for hours.

01:32:16.420 Fascinating.

01:32:16.880 Lovely guy.

01:32:18.340 Absolutely.

01:32:19.380 Lovely.

01:32:20.600 Personality.

01:32:21.660 I wish I could talk to him more.

01:32:23.240 I wish I could have him in every other week.

01:32:25.620 I really do.

01:32:26.620 Anyway.

01:32:27.540 We posed ourselves the question.

01:32:29.400 Or I posed the question.

01:32:30.820 Should Britain have stayed out of World War I?

01:32:33.220 So again.

01:32:33.780 We're just talking all about World War I.

01:32:36.120 And the run up to it.

01:32:37.260 The bit of the 19th century.

01:32:39.120 All sorts of bits and bobs.

01:32:40.920 Again.

01:32:41.440 If that's your interest.

01:32:43.300 That is a quality.

01:32:44.800 Quality bit of content.

01:32:46.440 Really.

01:32:47.300 Maybe in the top five.

01:32:50.360 In terms of sort of quality.

01:32:52.180 I would say.

01:32:54.500 All right.

01:32:55.000 Then finally.

01:32:56.500 Because I.

01:32:57.180 Because I've broken the seal.

01:32:58.660 On doing Wellington.

01:32:59.700 I decided.

01:33:01.280 We'll do.

01:33:02.440 Nelson.

01:33:04.420 Was it only a one part.

01:33:06.660 A one part.

01:33:07.980 Episode on Nelson.

01:33:09.720 I think maybe it was very long.

01:33:10.940 I can't quite remember.

01:33:11.880 But.

01:33:12.320 I thought it was more than one part.

01:33:13.900 Anyway.

01:33:14.980 There we go.

01:33:15.440 Admiral Lord Nelson.

01:33:16.920 One of our greatest heroes.

01:33:18.080 Arguably.

01:33:18.560 Our greatest hero.

01:33:20.360 Ever.

01:33:21.160 Arguably.

01:33:23.080 There you go.

01:33:23.840 Classic epochs.

01:33:24.700 And then finally.

01:33:26.920 After doing.

01:33:27.780 Going around.

01:33:29.520 Henry the second.

01:33:31.380 You know.

01:33:31.980 What I'd done.

01:33:32.420 I'd done.

01:33:32.840 Eleanor of Aquitaine.

01:33:34.240 I'd done.

01:33:34.960 William Marshall.

01:33:36.160 I'd done.

01:33:36.580 Thomas Beckett.

01:33:38.040 Finally.

01:33:38.540 I've got to do.

01:33:38.940 Henry himself.

01:33:40.540 Henry the second.

01:33:41.520 Henry Plantagenet.

01:33:42.940 And again.

01:33:43.580 That's continuing.

01:33:44.340 The.

01:33:44.740 The.

01:33:45.060 The.

01:33:45.340 The.

01:33:45.540 The.

01:33:46.900 The.

01:33:47.380 The sort of.

01:33:48.240 Broken series.

01:33:49.180 Of all the monarchs.

01:33:50.560 Of England.

01:33:51.080 From Alfred the Great onwards.

01:33:52.900 Right.

01:33:53.400 We've done.

01:33:54.200 William the Conqueror.

01:33:55.040 And we've done.

01:33:56.100 His sons and stuff.

01:33:58.040 Now.

01:33:58.720 On to Henry the second.

01:34:00.960 Did we ever do a bit.

01:34:01.800 On the anarchy.

01:34:02.540 Certainly on my channel.

01:34:03.380 History bro.

01:34:03.900 There's a bit.

01:34:04.300 All about the anarchy.

01:34:06.200 And.

01:34:06.940 Matilda.

01:34:07.560 And Stephen.

01:34:08.020 Of Blois.

01:34:09.140 To fill in the gap.

01:34:10.000 If we didn't ever do one.

01:34:11.600 I guess we didn't ever do one.

01:34:12.680 On.

01:34:13.540 Epochs.

01:34:13.880 Maybe that's something.

01:34:14.360 I should go back and do.

01:34:15.300 Just to fill in that gap.

01:34:16.920 I definitely.

01:34:17.200 It's definitely.

01:34:17.900 A long form bit of content.

01:34:19.060 About that.

01:34:19.780 On history bro.

01:34:20.900 If you want me.

01:34:22.280 Filling in that gap.

01:34:25.240 Between Henry the first.

01:34:26.960 And Henry the second.

01:34:29.280 All right.

01:34:30.000 Because there's a.

01:34:30.540 There's a whole civil war.

01:34:31.660 Between those two.

01:34:34.280 All right.

01:34:36.340 Then I talked to.

01:34:37.540 Rubber.

01:34:38.240 I think.

01:34:38.520 Was it.

01:34:39.000 Talking about.

01:34:41.360 Zulus.

01:34:42.160 Talking about the film.

01:34:43.160 Zulu.

01:34:43.560 And Zulu Dawn.

01:34:44.560 But also really.

01:34:45.500 Mainly talking about.

01:34:47.140 The real history.

01:34:48.520 Of the Zulu war.

01:34:51.860 Once again.

01:34:52.880 If that's your interest.

01:34:54.660 Good stuff.

01:34:55.200 Check it out.

01:34:55.840 Then once again.

01:34:56.540 Continuing the story.

01:34:58.000 Of the kings of England.

01:34:59.100 After Henry the second.

01:35:00.360 His eldest son.

01:35:01.920 Richard the first.

01:35:02.700 The Coeur de Lyon.

01:35:04.060 The lion hearted.

01:35:05.880 All about him.

01:35:06.640 Was that a one part.

01:35:07.600 Or no.

01:35:07.940 It was a two part.

01:35:08.520 A three part.

01:35:09.500 We did a three part series.

01:35:11.140 Because Carl loves.

01:35:12.660 Carl loves.

01:35:13.560 Richard the first.

01:35:14.800 Who doesn't.

01:35:15.520 Any good Englishman.

01:35:17.280 Should love the story.

01:35:18.160 Of Richard the first.

01:35:18.840 So we did a three part series.

01:35:19.780 On that.

01:35:20.480 Again.

01:35:20.700 His early life.

01:35:21.520 And rebellions.

01:35:22.620 Then out on crusade.

01:35:23.760 The third crusade.

01:35:25.420 When he very nearly.

01:35:26.080 Got all the way to Jerusalem.

01:35:27.360 And defeated Saladin.

01:35:28.260 But didn't.

01:35:29.000 And then.

01:35:29.600 The last.

01:35:30.500 Years of his life.

01:35:32.380 So three part series.

01:35:33.280 There on.

01:35:34.060 Richard the lion heart.

01:35:35.800 Then we decided.

01:35:36.520 To do one.

01:35:37.340 I'm with Luca here.

01:35:38.700 This is Lucas.

01:35:39.460 Me and Luca.

01:35:39.840 Talking about.

01:35:42.020 When Constantinople.

01:35:43.200 So what is that?

01:35:43.720 That's the fourth crusade.

01:35:45.340 Would it be?

01:35:46.440 The fourth crusade.

01:35:48.640 Where.

01:35:49.600 Christian knights.

01:35:50.500 Burnt down Constantinople. 0.98

01:35:54.320 Constantinople.

01:35:54.740 Was nominally.

01:35:55.620 Well was.

01:35:56.300 Christian.

01:35:57.260 Not the same type.

01:35:58.320 Not catholic.

01:36:00.100 Not the same type.

01:36:00.860 Of christianity.

01:36:01.680 Exactly.

01:36:02.140 As.

01:36:02.720 The western christian knights.

01:36:04.660 That besieged it.

01:36:05.540 And sacked it.

01:36:06.100 Still.

01:36:06.640 They're all supposed to be.

01:36:08.540 Christians. 0.51

01:36:09.200 And the muslim infidel. 1.00

01:36:10.320 Is the true enemy.

01:36:11.120 But nonetheless.

01:36:12.000 Yeah.

01:36:12.240 The fourth crusade.

01:36:12.800 There you go.

01:36:13.040 The title is.

01:36:13.600 The fourth crusade.

01:36:15.960 Me and Luca.

01:36:16.680 I think that's a relatively long one.

01:36:19.420 Then continuing the story.

01:36:20.700 After Richard the first.

01:36:21.720 His younger brother.

01:36:24.100 John.

01:36:24.980 King John.

01:36:25.660 Part one.

01:36:26.620 Part two.

01:36:28.340 So two part on King John.

01:36:29.780 Second one.

01:36:30.240 Concentrating on Magna Carta.

01:36:32.240 Then continuing on the story.

01:36:34.700 King John's son.

01:36:36.360 A little.

01:36:37.080 Little boy.

01:36:37.680 Henry the third.

01:36:38.420 The third.

01:36:38.920 The third.

01:36:41.800 So part one.

01:36:43.420 We did two part on Henry the third.

01:36:45.480 All right.

01:36:46.920 Well because the second part is really about.

01:36:49.240 Let's see.

01:36:49.620 The.

01:36:50.080 Simon de Montfort.

01:36:50.980 And the rise of Longshanks.

01:36:52.500 The rise of Edward the first.

01:36:54.660 And there's a whole sort of.

01:36:56.240 Barons rebellion.

01:36:57.380 Almost civil war thing.

01:36:59.540 With Henry the third.

01:37:00.680 And Simon de Montfort.

01:37:01.760 And then the Longshanks coming of age.

01:37:03.320 So we.

01:37:03.880 Continued it on.

01:37:04.960 Talk about Edward the first.

01:37:06.940 Part one.

01:37:07.960 Part two.

01:37:08.420 Part three.

01:37:09.600 He's hammering the Scots.

01:37:11.000 He's still hammering the Scots.

01:37:12.540 Part three.

01:37:13.860 Okay.

01:37:14.860 So.

01:37:15.280 He hammered the Welsh. 1.00

01:37:15.960 And the Scots.

01:37:16.680 To be fair.

01:37:18.520 All right.

01:37:19.000 So a three part series on Longshanks.

01:37:21.560 And then we continued on.

01:37:23.160 I think this is where Carl.

01:37:25.140 Sort of stopped doing it.

01:37:26.380 Basically.

01:37:27.560 Or maybe that was the last one.

01:37:28.720 I think maybe that was the last one.

01:37:29.800 When we talked about.

01:37:30.940 Edward the second.

01:37:31.760 Which is Longshanks' son.

01:37:33.620 And Edward the second.

01:37:34.620 Edward of Carmarthen.

01:37:35.580 Is much much weaker.

01:37:37.980 Edward the first.

01:37:38.800 Henry the third is weak.

01:37:40.620 Edward the first is super strong.

01:37:42.440 Edward the second is super weak.

01:37:43.700 Or pretty weak anyway.

01:37:45.960 Then at that point.

01:37:47.520 I'd had enough of doing the Kings and Queens.

01:37:49.280 Because I'd been doing it for a fair few months.

01:37:50.400 At that point.

01:37:50.960 I wanted to change up.

01:37:51.980 Change to do something different.

01:37:55.260 So I'd been talking about.

01:37:57.160 Or threatened.

01:37:58.540 For again.

01:37:59.220 Almost since the beginning.

01:38:01.240 Almost since the beginning.

01:38:02.500 Because we're knocking the third year into it now.

01:38:06.340 I'd been threatening to do a thing.

01:38:07.660 All about the turtles.

01:38:09.060 I.e.

01:38:09.440 A biography.

01:38:10.160 Or a history.

01:38:11.300 Of all the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

01:38:14.140 Hero Turtles.

01:38:15.960 I'll do a biography all about.

01:38:17.880 Michelangelo.

01:38:18.600 Leonardo.

01:38:19.600 Raphael.

01:38:20.400 And.

01:38:21.360 What is it?

01:38:22.200 Michelangelo.

01:38:22.800 Leonardo.

01:38:23.340 Donatello.

01:38:23.780 And Raphael.

01:38:25.460 I finally got round to doing it.

01:38:26.920 But what I realised was.

01:38:28.320 The life of Donatello.

01:38:30.480 And to a lesser extent.

01:38:31.700 Raphael.

01:38:32.740 Is not that fascinating.

01:38:35.320 Certainly Donatello.

01:38:36.660 It's not particularly fascinating.

01:38:39.140 They didn't come.

01:38:40.320 Donatello.

01:38:41.060 Did come out with some masterpieces.

01:38:42.400 Some absolute masterpieces.

01:38:43.500 But not that many.

01:38:48.000 Raphael.

01:38:48.440 Same thing.

01:38:49.280 Lots of people consider him a master.

01:38:50.660 And he is.

01:38:51.340 But.

01:38:51.960 And he did all sorts of stuff.

01:38:53.280 But his life.

01:38:54.460 The events of his life.

01:38:55.720 And he as a person.

01:38:57.860 Isn't that interesting.

01:39:00.020 He was just an artist.

01:39:02.020 Whereas though.

01:39:03.220 Leonardo.

01:39:03.940 And Michelangelo.

01:39:05.160 Not only are they masters that came out with.

01:39:07.620 Masterpiece after masterpiece.

01:39:08.860 But their actual personality.

01:39:10.360 Their life.

01:39:11.300 The events of what they did.

01:39:12.520 And where they went.

01:39:13.100 And who they met.

01:39:13.600 And what they said.

01:39:14.380 And everything that happened around them.

01:39:15.880 Is fascinating.

01:39:17.560 So.

01:39:18.380 Where I said I'd do all four turtles.

01:39:19.780 I decided no.

01:39:20.340 I'll just do Leonardo.

01:39:21.460 And Michelangelo.

01:39:24.400 Largely quoting from the lives.

01:39:26.100 By Vasari.

01:39:27.320 So yeah.

01:39:27.940 Leonardo part one.

01:39:29.540 Part two of Leonardo.

01:39:31.740 They're doing it in a fair amount of detail.

01:39:33.000 And then straight into Michelangelo part one.

01:39:36.440 With a hiatus there.

01:39:37.620 But there's a part two.

01:39:38.300 Was there even a part three of Michelangelo?

01:39:40.480 Yeah.

01:39:40.740 Part three of Michelangelo.

01:39:41.960 So three parts are on Michelangelo.

01:39:44.060 Two parts are on Leonardo.

01:39:45.120 And then three parts are on Michelangelo.

01:39:46.220 So.

01:39:46.680 If you like.

01:39:48.000 The Renaissance.

01:39:49.800 The Italian Renaissance.

01:39:52.220 And I think it's fascinating stuff.

01:39:54.200 It was interrupted there.

01:39:55.320 Where I got.

01:39:56.860 I got Apostolic Majesty in again.

01:39:59.840 Doesn't say it on the thumbnail.

01:40:00.860 Or on the title.

01:40:01.620 But it was with Apostolic Majesty.

01:40:03.840 And at that time.

01:40:06.100 It was just at the time.

01:40:07.160 If you remember.

01:40:08.160 Where Tucker.

01:40:09.480 Tucker Carlson.

01:40:10.520 Had gone to Russia.

01:40:12.280 And had done an interview with Vladimir Putin.

01:40:13.900 In the Kremlin.

01:40:14.620 Remember that?

01:40:15.800 And in that long interview.

01:40:18.080 Putin used it as a vehicle.

01:40:20.980 To just lecture Tucker.

01:40:23.420 And his viewers.

01:40:24.500 By extension.

01:40:25.440 About Russian Ukrainian history.

01:40:29.060 Quite funny actually.

01:40:30.500 Very interesting actually.

01:40:32.600 Anyway.

01:40:33.240 Me and Apostolic Majesty.

01:40:34.740 Particularly Apostolic Majesty.

01:40:36.160 Because his knowledge is greater than mine.

01:40:38.200 We both.

01:40:39.320 Sort of realised.

01:40:40.000 Or saw that.

01:40:41.820 Although it was interesting.

01:40:42.840 What Vladimir Putin was saying.

01:40:43.960 And was largely correct.

01:40:46.520 Almost entirely correct.

01:40:47.900 There were a few bits and bobs.

01:40:49.000 That he'd said there.

01:40:50.160 That either weren't right.

01:40:51.720 Or.

01:40:52.580 He was spinning it a bit.

01:40:54.520 A little bit.

01:40:55.600 Again.

01:40:55.880 I think.

01:40:56.720 What Putin said in that interview.

01:40:58.280 With Tucker.

01:40:59.260 Is largely.

01:41:00.780 True and correct.

01:41:01.560 And accurate.

01:41:02.340 I mean 90%.

01:41:03.260 So.

01:41:04.640 Maybe more than 90%.

01:41:06.040 Roughly.

01:41:07.120 There's a few bits and bobs.

01:41:08.220 So it's like.

01:41:08.940 I don't know about that though.

01:41:10.820 That isn't quite right.

01:41:11.740 Or that's not quite how it went.

01:41:12.800 Or.

01:41:13.980 You're putting a rosy spin on that.

01:41:15.400 Or you're ignoring that.

01:41:16.140 You're lying by omission.

01:41:17.140 About that little thing there.

01:41:18.480 So anyway.

01:41:19.080 Me and Apostolic Majesty.

01:41:19.780 He decided we'd do a long form bit of content.

01:41:21.480 Picking it apart.

01:41:22.600 And talking about it in even more detail than he did.

01:41:26.900 So once again.

01:41:27.480 If you're interested in early Russian.

01:41:29.000 Ukrainian history.

01:41:30.620 That one would be right up your alley.

01:41:33.280 Well.

01:41:33.540 After Michelangelo.

01:41:34.400 I decided to continue the story of sort of the Italian Renaissance.

01:41:36.940 The story of Florence.

01:41:38.960 And the Medici.

01:41:40.700 And.

01:41:41.800 And all that sort of thing.

01:41:43.380 And so.

01:41:43.940 This is one of my favourite episodes.

01:41:46.720 It's a story all about.

01:41:48.340 Savonarola.

01:41:48.980 The Mad Monk of Florence.

01:41:51.440 I think.

01:41:53.380 His personal opinion.

01:41:55.220 Is top five.

01:41:57.600 I think it's a fascinating one.

01:42:00.020 And well delivered by me.

01:42:02.460 No.

01:42:03.960 No I think it's a really good.

01:42:05.180 Honestly really good bit of content.

01:42:07.500 I would like to think that even if you don't particularly care about the Italian.

01:42:11.360 You know like the what the.

01:42:14.540 15th century.

01:42:15.560 16th century of Italy.

01:42:17.060 Even if you don't particularly care about that period.

01:42:19.740 I think.

01:42:20.380 I hope you would still find that.

01:42:22.420 Video interesting.

01:42:23.600 Yeah.

01:42:23.800 If someone said pick out.

01:42:25.540 Top three.

01:42:26.220 Top five ones.

01:42:26.980 You're sort of most proud of.

01:42:27.940 Or you want to stand as sort of.

01:42:29.460 As an emblem for the whole.

01:42:33.280 Epochs.

01:42:34.000 I may well pick that one.

01:42:36.460 Maybe I'm wrong.

01:42:37.180 Except everyone.

01:42:38.300 Takes what they want from these things.

01:42:39.620 Don't they?

01:42:39.920 You might find it.

01:42:41.180 Well the.

01:42:42.080 Crap one.

01:42:42.740 I don't know.

01:42:43.380 I think it's good.

01:42:44.780 I think that's a really good one.

01:42:46.080 All right.

01:42:46.300 Carried on the story.

01:42:47.020 Just talking about the Medici.

01:42:48.580 A whole one.

01:42:49.180 Just all about.

01:42:49.780 A bit of a grand overview.

01:42:51.200 Of.

01:42:51.700 A few hundred years worth of Medici.

01:42:54.060 Family.

01:42:55.140 History.

01:42:56.440 Again.

01:42:56.680 Because some epochs.

01:42:57.540 Are drilled down quite tight.

01:42:59.120 Where I talk about.

01:42:59.820 Just a few days worth of history.

01:43:01.580 Sometimes.

01:43:02.140 And other times.

01:43:02.620 I'm doing a big sweep.

01:43:04.740 Zoomed out.

01:43:05.900 Hundreds of years worth of history.

01:43:07.520 So in the Medici.

01:43:08.700 That one about the Medici.

01:43:09.840 Is sort of a zoomed out.

01:43:10.940 Overview type thing.

01:43:12.440 Okay.

01:43:12.640 So after that Medici one.

01:43:13.760 Where I'd been in the Middle Ages.

01:43:15.700 For quite a few weeks.

01:43:17.180 A few months even.

01:43:18.500 I decided to go back to my roots.

01:43:19.880 A little bit.

01:43:20.660 And talk about ancient Rome.

01:43:21.920 The end of the Republic.

01:43:22.880 The early Empire.

01:43:24.400 Well the end of the Republic really.

01:43:26.020 Back to my roots.

01:43:26.520 Right in my wheelhouse.

01:43:27.360 The thing I know.

01:43:28.380 Arguably.

01:43:28.940 Maybe.

01:43:29.440 Best.

01:43:30.660 And so for the next.

01:43:31.580 Quite a while.

01:43:32.780 I just concentrated on that.

01:43:34.360 So.

01:43:34.880 Here we've got one.

01:43:36.840 It's called The Beginning of the End.

01:43:37.980 But it's about Tiberius Gracchus.

01:43:41.560 And so.

01:43:42.320 Yeah.

01:43:42.680 The story all about.

01:43:43.980 The beginning.

01:43:45.040 Of the end.

01:43:45.920 Of the Roman Republic.

01:43:47.780 So a good 200 years out.

01:43:49.560 From.

01:43:50.620 Caesar and Augustus.

01:43:51.800 200 years before.

01:43:52.880 Caesar and Augustus.

01:43:53.600 Sort of times.

01:43:55.300 And then.

01:43:55.880 So yeah.

01:43:56.240 The next whole.

01:43:57.100 Many many weeks.

01:43:57.980 Is all about that.

01:43:58.540 After Tiberius Gracchus.

01:44:00.920 I mean this is.

01:44:01.840 This is classic.

01:44:02.660 Maybe the golden age of epochs.

01:44:05.480 Maybe.

01:44:07.280 Got Tiberius Gracchus.

01:44:08.500 Then go into.

01:44:09.520 Gaius Gracchus.

01:44:10.260 His younger brother.

01:44:11.620 Then go into.

01:44:12.300 Marius and Sulla.

01:44:13.400 Marius and Sulla.

01:44:13.620 Part 1.

01:44:14.160 The Roman Republic.

01:44:17.620 Really beginning to fracture.

01:44:19.020 And fall apart.

01:44:19.620 Civil wars beginning.

01:44:22.160 Marius and Sulla.

01:44:22.800 Part 1.

01:44:23.960 Part 2.

01:44:24.620 Part 3.

01:44:25.480 You know.

01:44:25.720 Tons of detail.

01:44:26.400 Part 4.

01:44:27.280 4 parts.

01:44:28.120 Just on Marius and Sulla.

01:44:29.820 Then there was an interreglum there.

01:44:31.680 I talked about Captain Cook.

01:44:33.100 With Luca.

01:44:35.040 A two part.

01:44:35.700 Was that a two parter?

01:44:36.720 Yeah.

01:44:36.940 A two parter on Captain Cook.

01:44:38.880 Captain James Cook.

01:44:40.200 Going around the world.

01:44:41.320 Another great sort of.

01:44:42.620 English British hero.

01:44:44.940 Type story.

01:44:46.380 With Luca there.

01:44:48.120 There was another.

01:44:48.780 Slight hiatus.

01:44:49.980 Before continuing with the.

01:44:51.240 Roman Republic.

01:44:51.980 Where I talked with.

01:44:52.960 Rubber all about.

01:44:53.900 The Lion in Winter.

01:44:54.500 The film.

01:44:54.940 The Lion in Winter.

01:44:55.960 Which is about.

01:44:56.940 Henry II.

01:44:57.600 So more.

01:44:58.700 Even more.

01:44:59.420 Detail really.

01:45:00.100 About Henry II.

01:45:01.480 Again.

01:45:01.740 One of my all time favourites.

01:45:04.360 You know.

01:45:04.600 Back to Rome then.

01:45:05.480 That was just an interruption.

01:45:08.480 Talking about Crassus.

01:45:09.820 Two parts on Crassus.

01:45:10.880 Grass.

01:45:11.280 Crackus.

01:45:12.800 Crassus.

01:45:13.480 Two parts on Crassus.

01:45:15.480 The rich man in Rome.

01:45:17.300 One of the rich men ever to have lived.

01:45:19.420 Fascinating life.

01:45:20.960 We're now talking about.

01:45:22.480 The generation.

01:45:24.000 Or so.

01:45:24.960 Just before Caesar.

01:45:26.540 Sort of overlapping.

01:45:27.480 In between Marius and Sulla.

01:45:29.080 And Caesar times.

01:45:30.660 Caesar Pompey times.

01:45:31.260 So two parts on that.

01:45:32.760 Then a whole.

01:45:33.180 Then a whole episode.

01:45:34.000 Just on the Catiline conspiracy.

01:45:36.980 With.

01:45:38.020 Elizabeth Haverin.

01:45:41.380 She. 0.93

01:45:41.740 I got her on as a guest.

01:45:43.320 Says anything you particularly want to talk about.

01:45:45.000 Or.

01:45:45.580 I can't remember if it was her or me.

01:45:46.580 It was probably me.

01:45:47.880 Said.

01:45:48.480 Would you.

01:45:49.140 Could you do the Catiline conspiracy?

01:45:50.820 And she was like.

01:45:51.240 Sure.

01:45:52.520 So.

01:45:53.140 There's a conversation with Elizabeth Haverin.

01:45:54.500 All about the Catiline conspiracy. 0.68

01:45:55.640 A very small bit of history really.

01:45:57.620 Just a few days.

01:45:58.320 I mean.

01:45:58.600 There's lots to talk about around it.

01:45:59.880 Before and after.

01:46:00.580 But.

01:46:01.160 Because the Catiline conspiracy itself.

01:46:02.560 Is only a few days long.

01:46:03.700 So.

01:46:04.300 It's a fairly tight focused one that.

01:46:06.700 And then carrying on to.

01:46:07.900 Oh.

01:46:08.040 Part three about Crassus.

01:46:09.020 So it's a three-parter.

01:46:09.880 Just about Crassus.

01:46:10.740 Well.

01:46:11.960 Crassus is involved and lived at the time of the Catiline conspiracy.

01:46:15.240 So it's all part of the same thing.

01:46:18.380 All right.

01:46:19.260 Then after Crassus.

01:46:20.360 I did.

01:46:22.740 Cato.

01:46:23.440 Is there one missing?

01:46:24.400 Don't tell me there's one missing.

01:46:27.620 Well.

01:46:27.840 Because Cato.

01:46:28.420 Look.

01:46:28.660 Cato part two and part three on Cato.

01:46:30.820 Cato the younger that is.

01:46:33.040 Hmm.

01:46:33.520 I should have to have a word with.

01:46:35.540 The website people.

01:46:37.200 Seems like Cato part one is missing.

01:46:39.840 That won't do will it?

01:46:41.880 Yeah.

01:46:42.700 Number 168.

01:46:44.080 And then 170.

01:46:45.060 So.

01:46:45.640 Number 169.

01:46:47.220 Cato part one.

01:46:49.080 Seems to be missing.

01:46:50.220 I shall remedy that.

01:46:51.600 It's not good enough.

01:46:53.420 Okay.

01:46:53.940 So about a three-part.

01:46:55.180 Three-part.

01:46:56.120 It should be.

01:46:57.680 A series on Cato the younger.

01:47:01.140 Fascinating.

01:47:01.680 I've even more interesting than Crassus I would say.

01:47:04.960 One of the greatest people.

01:47:07.380 Personages from that whole period.

01:47:08.780 The end of the Republic.

01:47:10.080 Is Cato.

01:47:10.880 In my mind.

01:47:11.440 For my money.

01:47:12.500 Fascinating stuff.

01:47:13.860 Then I spoke to.

01:47:15.640 Lucky enough to speak to Mr. Godfrey Bloom again.

01:47:19.240 All about the history of money.

01:47:20.400 We're talking all about gold.

01:47:21.920 History of gold.

01:47:24.660 Once again.

01:47:25.360 If that's your thing.

01:47:26.620 I think you'll find that very very interesting conversation.

01:47:29.540 All right.

01:47:29.780 That was just an interregnum again.

01:47:31.840 Carried on with the end of the Republic.

01:47:34.400 So Pompey and Caesar.

01:47:36.000 Part one.

01:47:37.100 Part two.

01:47:37.600 Part three.

01:47:39.140 How many parts was it?

01:47:40.520 I think just three parts.

01:47:43.040 Three parts.

01:47:43.620 Mainly on.

01:47:46.300 Mainly on Pompey.

01:47:47.660 If I recall.

01:47:49.000 Okay.

01:47:49.500 Then I've got Survive the Jive.

01:47:51.060 Tom Rousell.

01:47:52.900 Brilliant dude.

01:47:54.680 An absolutely brilliant human being.

01:47:56.300 Tom Rousell.

01:47:56.900 We were talking about ancient Britain.

01:47:59.860 We were talking about Iron Age hill faults.

01:48:03.040 The Anglo-Saxons. 0.74

01:48:04.000 All sorts of stuff.

01:48:05.000 All sorts of stuff in that one.

01:48:06.080 If you know Survive the Jive.

01:48:08.740 If you know of him.

01:48:10.180 You're almost certainly a fan.

01:48:12.540 That's how good he is.

01:48:16.160 Yeah.

01:48:16.680 Quality conversation.

01:48:18.620 Again.

01:48:19.040 He's the type of person.

01:48:20.200 I would just talk to all the time if I could.

01:48:22.880 I'd have him.

01:48:23.460 I'd have to do a long form bit of conversation with him.

01:48:25.560 Every single week if I could.

01:48:27.860 He's very very generous with his time.

01:48:32.120 Then me and Luca talked about.

01:48:35.020 We talked about Thomas Cromwell.

01:48:37.060 Is that a one parter?

01:48:38.620 It's just a one parter.

01:48:39.560 But I think if I recall.

01:48:40.460 It's quite a long conversation.

01:48:42.500 We talked all about.

01:48:44.180 Thomas Cromwell.

01:48:44.980 Not to be confused with Oliver Cromwell.

01:48:47.620 And how he's depicted in fiction.

01:48:51.960 Both in A Man Full Seasons and Wolf Hall.

01:48:55.000 And what the real.

01:48:55.680 The real Thomas Cromwell.

01:48:57.640 Was like.

01:48:58.720 Or must have been like.

01:48:59.980 So.

01:49:00.760 Bit of an overlap between.

01:49:02.260 Film.

01:49:02.900 Literature.

01:49:03.640 And.

01:49:04.680 Real history.

01:49:06.260 Again.

01:49:06.640 If you're interested in Henry VIII.

01:49:07.740 Days of Henry VIII.

01:49:08.680 Check that one out.

01:49:11.140 I'm sure you'll like it.

01:49:13.560 All right.

01:49:13.900 Then continued on with Caesar and Pompey.

01:49:16.500 Part four.

01:49:17.780 Part four of Caesar.

01:49:19.220 Well.

01:49:19.860 Went from Pompey.

01:49:20.720 Just morphed into Caesar.

01:49:21.960 Because their lives overlap so much.

01:49:24.500 So part four on Caesar.

01:49:27.160 And then.

01:49:27.820 Yeah.

01:49:28.000 Apostolic Majesty.

01:49:28.540 So finally.

01:49:29.240 Got round to.

01:49:29.860 Even though it's a bit out of order.

01:49:31.340 It's not all perfect.

01:49:32.560 In chronological order.

01:49:34.700 Apostolic Majesty.

01:49:35.940 Got in contact with me.

01:49:37.640 And said.

01:49:38.620 You've been talking about.

01:49:39.860 Doing a bit of conversation about.

01:49:41.980 Augustus.

01:49:42.800 Octavian.

01:49:43.920 Forever.

01:49:44.360 Forever.

01:49:45.340 Do you want to do it?

01:49:47.640 Do you want to have the conversation?

01:49:50.200 And I was like.

01:49:50.760 Yeah.

01:49:50.960 There's no one better.

01:49:52.080 There's honestly.

01:49:52.660 Would be hardly anyone better.

01:49:53.920 I could think of.

01:49:55.160 To do it with.

01:49:56.220 Than.

01:49:56.840 Apostolic Majesty.

01:49:57.520 So we did that.

01:49:58.160 Was that a one part?

01:49:58.980 Or did we have to cut it out?

01:49:59.820 No.

01:49:59.960 It was a one part.

01:50:00.360 It will be a long conversation though.

01:50:02.740 So.

01:50:03.280 I like to think I know my stuff.

01:50:04.760 Well.

01:50:04.880 I do really know my stuff.

01:50:05.860 Inside out.

01:50:06.400 When it comes to Octavian.

01:50:09.260 It's one of the people.

01:50:10.480 In history.

01:50:11.100 I know most about.

01:50:12.240 Read all the original sources.

01:50:13.800 Many times.

01:50:15.380 And of course.

01:50:16.220 Apostolic Majesty.

01:50:16.860 Can take that to the bank.

01:50:18.400 That Apostolic Majesty.

01:50:19.200 Knows what he's talking about.

01:50:22.200 A hundred percent.

01:50:23.500 So two people.

01:50:24.280 Talking about it.

01:50:25.200 Who really do know this stuff.

01:50:26.520 Without blowing my own trumpet.

01:50:27.440 Too much.

01:50:28.540 So yeah.

01:50:30.480 A definitive.

01:50:31.320 Sort of a definitive.

01:50:31.980 Bit of content.

01:50:32.820 About.

01:50:33.560 The life of Octavian.

01:50:35.140 Otherwise known as Augustus.

01:50:36.340 The first emperor.

01:50:37.560 Right.

01:50:37.820 Then continued on with Caesar.

01:50:39.180 Just a really long.

01:50:40.320 I decided.

01:50:41.080 For whatever reason.

01:50:41.680 I was going to do Caesar.

01:50:42.680 In stupid detail.

01:50:47.400 Absolute.

01:50:49.400 Audiobook level.

01:50:50.640 Amounts of detail.

01:50:51.440 So part five.

01:50:52.580 Part six.

01:50:54.000 Part seven.

01:50:54.600 Part eight.

01:50:55.100 It went on and on and on.

01:50:56.700 Nine.

01:50:57.120 Ten.

01:50:58.380 Eleven.

01:50:58.820 Twelve.

01:50:59.040 Of how many was it.

01:50:59.840 Was it 20 odd.

01:51:01.180 13, 14.

01:51:01.780 Every little thing.

01:51:02.340 A whole episode.

01:51:02.960 Just about the rise.

01:51:04.160 Of Vercingetorix.

01:51:05.780 One of Caesar's.

01:51:07.960 Gallic enemies. 0.98

01:51:09.120 A second part.

01:51:09.700 Just on the fall.

01:51:10.400 Of Vercingetorix.

01:51:11.880 That's how much detail.

01:51:13.000 It's going in.

01:51:14.560 Right.

01:51:15.300 Part 16.

01:51:16.440 Part 18.

01:51:18.900 20.

01:51:20.020 Was it.

01:51:20.520 Was it up to 21.

01:51:21.660 Yeah.

01:51:24.320 So.

01:51:25.140 A 21 part series.

01:51:26.680 On the life of.

01:51:27.640 Julius Caesar.

01:51:29.260 So really going through.

01:51:31.640 The lives.

01:51:33.700 And accounts.

01:51:34.720 From the ancient world.

01:51:36.440 Of the life of Caesar.

01:51:37.340 With sort of a fine tooth comb.

01:51:39.000 Not exactly.

01:51:39.940 Lion for lion.

01:51:40.900 But.

01:51:41.740 Getting there.

01:51:43.260 As much detail.

01:51:44.000 As I could muster really.

01:51:45.600 All about the life of Caesar.

01:51:47.220 I mean.

01:51:47.460 Each one of these.

01:51:47.960 Is long form.

01:51:48.440 So if there's a 21 part series.

01:51:50.080 Gives you an idea.

01:51:52.280 It's well over 21 hours.

01:51:53.760 Probably closer to 30 hours.

01:51:55.320 Maybe more.

01:51:55.920 35 hours.

01:51:56.600 I don't know.

01:51:58.140 A lot.

01:51:59.000 Alright.

01:51:59.260 At that point.

01:51:59.760 I'd had enough of ancient Rome.

01:52:00.920 For a while.

01:52:02.660 Went back to.

01:52:03.960 Medieval times.

01:52:04.540 Continuing the series.

01:52:05.540 All about the monarchy.

01:52:07.300 And I was up to.

01:52:08.200 Edward the third.

01:52:10.300 Alright.

01:52:10.880 I'd done.

01:52:12.140 Edward the second.

01:52:13.020 Edward come off.

01:52:13.520 And you've got three eddies in a row.

01:52:15.840 Edward.

01:52:16.340 First.

01:52:16.620 Second.

01:52:16.840 Third.

01:52:17.160 One after the other.

01:52:18.100 So I was up to Edward the third.

01:52:19.360 So I did that.

01:52:20.940 And then after him.

01:52:23.760 Richard the second.

01:52:25.200 And his calamitous reign.

01:52:28.120 Then Henry the fourth.

01:52:29.320 As you can see.

01:52:29.940 Just carrying on.

01:52:31.200 And then I got back to.

01:52:32.360 So after.

01:52:33.320 Henry the fourth.

01:52:34.140 It is Henry the fifth.

01:52:35.400 And I've already done a bit of content on him.

01:52:36.880 Haven't I say.

01:52:37.480 It's only a couple of times ever.

01:52:38.700 I've returned to something.

01:52:40.380 Did a very very early episode.

01:52:41.820 Didn't we.

01:52:42.220 Me and Carl.

01:52:42.820 Talking about Pompey.

01:52:44.000 In kind of general terms.

01:52:45.200 Went back and talked about him again.

01:52:46.900 For a couple of episodes.

01:52:47.760 At the beginning of my Caesar series.

01:52:50.680 The only other time I've done it.

01:52:51.960 If I recall.

01:52:52.700 The only other time I've ever returned to something.

01:52:54.220 Is Henry the fifth.

01:52:55.540 So if you remember earlier on.

01:52:57.520 I did something about.

01:52:58.980 Certainly did something just about.

01:53:00.040 The Battle of Ashing Corps.

01:53:00.880 But I go back here and do a long series.

01:53:04.280 Again in tons of details.

01:53:06.000 Almost as much detail as I could really.

01:53:08.220 Manage.

01:53:09.100 All about the life of Henry the fifth.

01:53:11.880 Not just.

01:53:12.540 You know.

01:53:12.860 Not just an hour and a bit.

01:53:14.040 But hours and hours and hours worth.

01:53:15.560 So how many parts is that?

01:53:16.540 One, two.

01:53:18.240 Oh look.

01:53:18.560 There's an interesting.

01:53:19.120 There's many parts.

01:53:19.940 But how many was it in the end?

01:53:21.460 Henry the fifth.

01:53:25.380 Part four.

01:53:27.740 Part six.

01:53:29.580 Part eight.

01:53:30.860 Ten.

01:53:32.380 Eleven.

01:53:33.060 In the end.

01:53:33.600 An eleven part series.

01:53:35.860 An eleven part series.

01:53:37.340 All on the life of Henry the fifth.

01:53:39.860 While England's greatest medieval king.

01:53:42.300 Greatest martial king.

01:53:44.140 There you go.

01:53:44.620 Eleven part series.

01:53:45.420 You're welcome.

01:53:45.860 In between that though.

01:53:47.460 In between that.

01:53:48.420 There's a few different other things.

01:53:50.420 Got Luca back in.

01:53:51.540 I think he was working for us at this point.

01:53:54.580 I think.

01:53:55.560 I think.

01:53:56.240 If he wasn't.

01:53:56.860 It was very.

01:53:57.300 He was to be a full employee very soon.

01:53:59.940 We came back in.

01:54:00.600 And we've both talked about.

01:54:02.040 Ever since I've ever had conversations with Luca.

01:54:03.940 We've both talked about how we love.

01:54:05.800 The life.

01:54:06.700 And adventures of T.E.

01:54:07.940 Lawrence.

01:54:08.440 Thomas Lawrence.

01:54:10.040 I.E.

01:54:10.640 Lawrence of Arabia.

01:54:13.060 And his whole story.

01:54:15.500 And so.

01:54:15.800 And his book.

01:54:17.140 Lawrence of Arabia's own memoir.

01:54:19.260 Seven Pillars of the World.

01:54:19.820 Of Wisdom.

01:54:21.100 And so we've got a two part.

01:54:22.180 Is it two part?

01:54:22.840 Or even three?

01:54:23.240 No.

01:54:23.440 Three part.

01:54:24.100 Sorry.

01:54:24.900 Four part.

01:54:26.020 Four part.

01:54:27.260 Conversation.

01:54:28.880 All about that.

01:54:30.020 So again.

01:54:31.160 Loads of detail.

01:54:32.020 Really.

01:54:32.480 Loads of loads of detail.

01:54:33.360 About Lawrence of Arabia.

01:54:35.580 I do beg your pardon.

01:54:36.400 It was a five parter.

01:54:38.840 Five parter.

01:54:40.320 I think we recorded that over two sessions.

01:54:43.460 Must have done.

01:54:44.700 Must have done.

01:54:46.260 Right.

01:54:46.520 There's a conversation in my first.

01:54:47.680 Was it my first conversation I had with Alex Masters?

01:54:49.500 I think I talked to Alex Masters.

01:54:52.020 That steam guy.

01:54:53.380 On some other things.

01:54:54.420 Just had quote unquote interviews with him.

01:54:56.860 It wasn't a full Epochs episode.

01:54:58.740 That can't be the first time I spoke to Alex Masters.

01:55:02.140 Anyway.

01:55:03.180 He's a.

01:55:03.640 He's very very knowledgeable.

01:55:05.460 About all sorts of things actually.

01:55:06.780 About a vast number of things.

01:55:07.960 But.

01:55:08.580 His real wheelhouse.

01:55:10.480 Is steam.

01:55:11.660 Trains.

01:55:12.240 Steam power.

01:55:12.720 Steam engines.

01:55:14.300 Locomotives.

01:55:15.180 All sorts of things like that.

01:55:16.900 So I got him on.

01:55:18.100 And we talked.

01:55:19.560 We talked all about.

01:55:21.800 Well we didn't even get into trains really.

01:55:23.500 If I recall.

01:55:24.000 The first conversation.

01:55:24.920 We just.

01:55:25.440 I just kept picking his brain.

01:55:26.820 About like.

01:55:28.400 The nature of.

01:55:32.080 Of.

01:55:32.860 How we got to even the first steam engines.

01:55:35.920 The very very earliest.

01:55:37.260 Kernels.

01:55:40.220 Of what's required.

01:55:41.240 To even begin.

01:55:42.100 To think about.

01:55:42.720 Building.

01:55:43.680 A steam engine.

01:55:44.780 Like what was the first ever piston.

01:55:46.500 Ever made.

01:55:47.000 Stuff like that.

01:55:48.040 I find it absolutely fascinating.

01:55:50.840 It might not be everyone's cup of tea.

01:55:52.460 But.

01:55:53.160 I think a lot of people.

01:55:54.520 A lot of boys.

01:55:56.280 Will be.

01:55:57.240 Fascinated by that sort of thing.

01:55:58.780 Alright.

01:55:59.020 So there's the Henry V stuff.

01:56:00.180 Was there any other interruptions.

01:56:01.900 In it.

01:56:04.280 No.

01:56:04.740 Okay.

01:56:04.960 So after the Henry V series.

01:56:07.560 We.

01:56:08.000 As you can see here.

01:56:09.140 We changed the design of the thumbnail.

01:56:12.480 People thought.

01:56:14.900 It's not really much to do with me.

01:56:16.060 I don't make the thumbnails.

01:56:17.540 I never have.

01:56:19.100 Quite often I have.

01:56:20.320 Something to do with the.

01:56:21.940 Post production.

01:56:22.880 But I never make thumbnails.

01:56:25.100 Anyway.

01:56:25.440 It was decided.

01:56:26.980 That there'll be a change of design.

01:56:28.640 So you can see.

01:56:29.480 Sort of a new design of thumbnail.

01:56:30.520 Going forward.

01:56:31.080 So.

01:56:31.940 Was I talking to.

01:56:33.300 This must be talking to.

01:56:35.660 I think it was just me.

01:56:36.560 It was just me.

01:56:37.100 Talking about the history of.

01:56:38.560 Of air power.

01:56:39.880 Well it was about the history of bombing.

01:56:41.540 When we went from.

01:56:43.040 The very very earliest.

01:56:46.420 World War I bioplanes.

01:56:47.760 People dropping grenades.

01:56:49.040 And mortar shells.

01:56:50.340 By a hand.

01:56:51.680 Out of an aeroplane.

01:56:53.980 To.

01:56:56.000 21st century.

01:56:57.280 Laser guided.

01:56:58.000 Precision.

01:56:59.960 Smart munitions.

01:57:02.160 The history of that.

01:57:04.000 And loads of.

01:57:04.960 The bombing of World War II.

01:57:07.040 And all sorts of things.

01:57:07.700 So.

01:57:08.840 Again.

01:57:09.160 Classic sort of military history stuff.

01:57:11.080 After that.

01:57:11.600 Did another long series.

01:57:12.520 About Magellan.

01:57:14.100 The first man.

01:57:16.260 A Portuguese man.

01:57:18.220 But under the flag.

01:57:19.180 Of the Spanish. 0.99

01:57:20.360 First man to circumnavigate the globe.

01:57:22.600 Go all the way around the globe.

01:57:23.720 And come back.

01:57:24.320 And so I did that.

01:57:27.120 Because I've read around that topic.

01:57:28.660 For years on end.

01:57:30.500 I did that in.

01:57:31.760 Loads of detail.

01:57:33.500 How many parts.

01:57:34.960 Was it.

01:57:36.600 Um.

01:57:37.160 Let's quickly.

01:57:37.940 Scroll up to.

01:57:38.940 Remind you how many parts.

01:57:40.160 The Magellan thing was.

01:57:41.240 Ultimately.

01:57:42.340 Was it.

01:57:42.720 Was that knocking on.

01:57:45.080 Oh well it was.

01:57:48.280 13 parts.

01:57:49.920 There you go.

01:57:50.960 So probably.

01:57:51.680 Knocking 20 hours.

01:57:52.780 Odd.

01:57:53.160 Of content.

01:57:53.720 Yeah.

01:57:54.320 Just on the.

01:57:55.180 The voyage of Magellan.

01:57:57.280 Just on the voyage of Magellan.

01:57:58.960 Okay.

01:57:59.260 There's one of.

01:57:59.760 There's a couple of things.

01:58:00.660 In between there.

01:58:01.320 That was interrupted with.

01:58:02.860 Because 20 episodes.

01:58:04.280 13 episodes.

01:58:06.200 That's a few months worth.

01:58:08.280 So in between there.

01:58:08.900 I had a very good conversation.

01:58:10.120 Very very interesting conversation.

01:58:11.080 With David English.

01:58:12.860 David English.

01:58:13.620 Great chap.

01:58:15.220 Check him out.

01:58:15.740 If you can find him.

01:58:16.360 He's got his own content.

01:58:17.220 He's on Twitter.

01:58:18.600 Absolutely brilliant dude.

01:58:20.480 Um.

01:58:21.540 We won't.

01:58:21.960 We decided.

01:58:22.340 We were going to talk about.

01:58:22.960 The Siege of Malta.

01:58:23.640 There's a Mel Gibson film coming out soon.

01:58:27.140 All about that.

01:58:27.820 It's a great turning point.

01:58:28.600 A great victory for the.

01:58:30.420 The forces of Christendom.

01:58:31.920 Against the forces of Islam. 0.99

01:58:34.080 Brilliant story.

01:58:34.920 Holding out against all odds.

01:58:36.840 Almost certainly all going to die to a man.

01:58:38.500 Like the animo.

01:58:39.020 But then didn't.

01:58:39.640 And then just won.

01:58:41.520 Brilliant story.

01:58:42.700 David English.

01:58:43.500 Check him out.

01:58:44.760 Okay.

01:58:45.260 Oh.

01:58:45.420 We've got Elizabeth Haverin back in.

01:58:47.400 She wanted to talk about King Arthur.

01:58:49.000 That's one of her things.

01:58:50.020 She knows loads about the Arthurian legends.

01:58:52.800 Very interesting.

01:58:53.640 And all that.

01:58:54.000 As am I.

01:58:54.520 So he's like.

01:58:55.080 Okay.

01:58:55.380 If you come back.

01:58:56.140 We'll do that.

01:58:57.080 So she did.

01:58:57.680 And we did.

01:58:59.440 Here you go.

01:59:01.160 Half legend.

01:59:02.000 More legend than man.

01:59:04.760 Arguably.

01:59:06.120 Alright.

01:59:07.300 We've finished up the Magellan.

01:59:08.800 All the Magellan stuff.

01:59:11.820 And then what happened.

01:59:13.060 What did I start talking about after Magellan.

01:59:15.200 Started to.

01:59:15.880 Oh.

01:59:16.020 Verdun.

01:59:17.580 So we're getting close to.

01:59:18.640 It's not that long ago.

01:59:20.120 So Verdun.

01:59:20.660 A little bit of a back story on this Verdun thing.

01:59:22.840 As you'll see.

01:59:23.320 I started the Verdun series.

01:59:25.660 Because I've been talking about.

01:59:26.980 Doing Verdun.

01:59:28.080 For a couple of years.

01:59:29.000 Good couple of years.

01:59:30.520 I started doing Verdun.

01:59:32.400 And then it was one of the few times.

01:59:34.140 Only two or three times.

01:59:35.000 I can think of ever.

01:59:36.400 Where I sort of got.

01:59:37.440 Not exactly writer's block.

01:59:39.160 It doesn't work like that.

01:59:41.060 Just to let you know how I do it.

01:59:42.800 Is I do loads of reading.

01:59:44.220 Well I've already hopefully done.

01:59:45.280 Half a lifetime's worth of reading.

01:59:46.440 On the thing already.

01:59:47.580 So that's my baseline.

01:59:49.500 Very.

01:59:50.100 Very rarely.

01:59:51.160 Do I.

01:59:52.240 Do something.

01:59:52.980 I don't really know about.

01:59:54.460 Read about it for a few weeks.

01:59:55.820 And then make an epochs about it.

01:59:57.100 That's very rare.

01:59:57.740 I have done that a couple of times.

01:59:58.740 But.

01:59:59.520 Usually I already know a load.

02:00:00.920 About the thing already.

02:00:03.200 Then I do a bit of extra.

02:00:04.540 Brushing up and reading.

02:00:05.820 And get a few quotes.

02:00:07.860 Make a handful of notes.

02:00:09.100 Maybe.

02:00:10.120 Just a few notes.

02:00:11.080 Just a few pointers for myself.

02:00:12.920 Alright.

02:00:13.260 Remember to talk about that thing.

02:00:15.440 And that's it.

02:00:15.980 I definitely don't write a script.

02:00:17.960 And then just read the script.

02:00:19.320 It's not.

02:00:19.680 It doesn't.

02:00:20.120 I don't do that at all.

02:00:21.360 I couldn't do that.

02:00:22.480 It wouldn't work.

02:00:23.040 You can't pump out a long form bit of content.

02:00:27.940 Every week.

02:00:28.940 For years on end.

02:00:29.820 If you did it like that.

02:00:30.680 That would be too much work.

02:00:33.160 So what I do.

02:00:33.860 I just make.

02:00:34.820 Just a few notes.

02:00:36.540 Like for example.

02:00:37.060 In Vodan.

02:00:37.560 I'll say.

02:00:38.780 A note that just says.

02:00:41.380 Fort Duermont.

02:00:43.240 And I'll notice that.

02:00:44.080 And I'll go.

02:00:44.320 Right.

02:00:44.680 So I've now got like.

02:00:46.260 10 minutes.

02:00:47.360 40 minutes worth of.

02:00:48.780 Knowledge in my head.

02:00:49.760 About Fort Duermont.

02:00:51.260 And then I just.

02:00:52.620 Then I just riff on Fort Duermont.

02:00:54.460 Right.

02:00:54.740 For example.

02:00:55.440 I've got a few notes like that.

02:00:57.320 Literally sometimes just 5 notes.

02:00:58.820 10, 12.

02:00:59.920 Pointers.

02:01:00.420 To remember to mention that thing.

02:01:02.540 And I do it off.

02:01:03.660 Sort of off the cuff.

02:01:04.680 So to speak.

02:01:06.340 Okay.

02:01:07.060 But Vodan.

02:01:08.120 This is one of the few times where.

02:01:09.840 That whole process didn't really work very well.

02:01:13.300 And I don't know why.

02:01:14.440 It's difficult to break down.

02:01:16.240 Difficult to tell you why.

02:01:17.840 I myself don't know.

02:01:19.300 It's because there's so much to be said.

02:01:21.700 About World War I.

02:01:22.780 And about Vodan.

02:01:23.800 Specifically.

02:01:24.360 So much.

02:01:25.620 That could be said.

02:01:27.600 And I didn't want to do a.

02:01:29.340 13 part series.

02:01:30.440 A 21 part series.

02:01:31.580 I didn't want to do that.

02:01:32.740 I wanted to do a 2, 3.

02:01:33.920 Maybe 4 part series.

02:01:34.800 Something like that.

02:01:36.260 And so.

02:01:37.340 For the first time really.

02:01:39.880 I found it slightly difficult.

02:01:41.720 To tell the story.

02:01:44.080 Or.

02:01:44.440 Or rather.

02:01:44.980 To tell the story.

02:01:45.960 To mire.

02:01:48.380 Satisfaction.

02:01:50.120 I mean.

02:01:50.500 I did it in the end.

02:01:51.100 It wasn't that.

02:01:51.880 It wasn't impossible.

02:01:52.880 But.

02:01:54.920 Yeah.

02:01:55.400 Really.

02:01:55.660 Really.

02:01:55.840 Obviously.

02:01:56.540 Really.

02:01:57.000 Really.

02:01:57.160 Wanted to do it justice.

02:01:58.660 Absolutely.

02:01:59.200 Fascinated by.

02:02:00.400 World War I.

02:02:01.020 And Verdun.

02:02:01.600 Particularly Verdun.

02:02:03.220 Anyway.

02:02:03.760 Just struggled slightly.

02:02:04.780 To let you know.

02:02:05.280 Behind the scenes.

02:02:06.100 Trying to tell that story of Verdun.

02:02:07.980 What to leave out.

02:02:09.520 It came.

02:02:09.960 It boils down to.

02:02:10.680 I'd had to leave out.

02:02:11.820 Loads of stuff.

02:02:13.980 Right.

02:02:14.640 If I.

02:02:14.980 If I talked about everything I know.

02:02:16.580 About Verdun.

02:02:17.340 It would be.

02:02:18.280 20 hours or something.

02:02:20.000 So if you're not going to do that.

02:02:21.960 Then it's an exercise in.

02:02:23.700 What am I going to leave out.

02:02:25.620 I found that a little bit difficult.

02:02:27.580 A little bit.

02:02:28.140 All right.

02:02:30.680 So there was Verdun part two.

02:02:33.560 And then I interrupted myself.

02:02:36.160 For a fair bit.

02:02:37.100 And then kept putting it off.

02:02:38.200 Finished putting off the Verdun thing for a while.

02:02:40.960 Again.

02:02:41.240 I think the only time I've ever really done that.

02:02:43.060 On Epochs.

02:02:45.740 Where I.

02:02:47.140 You know.

02:02:48.000 Interrupted a long series with something else.

02:02:49.760 But.

02:02:50.300 Not put it off for quite a while.

02:02:52.300 Anyway.

02:02:53.700 I got in.

02:02:55.540 Marcus.

02:02:55.940 I.e.

02:02:57.980 Furus Pertinax.

02:02:59.320 Iron Age Agriculturalist.

02:03:01.400 The man goes by a few names.

02:03:03.000 He is a fascinating dude.

02:03:04.260 Australian dude.

02:03:05.380 Who knows his ancient history.

02:03:08.120 Better than me.

02:03:10.080 As well as me.

02:03:11.000 If not better.

02:03:12.100 Absolutely knows his stuff.

02:03:13.580 100%.

02:03:14.300 The type of person.

02:03:16.400 You could.

02:03:16.800 You could just.

02:03:17.440 Have conversation with.

02:03:18.580 For evening.

02:03:19.060 After evening.

02:03:19.620 After evening.

02:03:20.140 After evening.

02:03:21.340 Almost endless amounts of knowledge.

02:03:23.020 A bit like Apostolic Majesty.

02:03:24.600 You know.

02:03:24.980 So.

02:03:25.100 Yeah.

02:03:26.240 Got him in.

02:03:29.680 Privileged to call him my friend.

02:03:32.160 We talked about the Byzantine Empire.

02:03:34.500 In fact.

02:03:34.780 A little bit of law.

02:03:35.640 A little bit of.

02:03:37.460 Epochs law is.

02:03:40.100 Occasionally.

02:03:40.640 What happens is.

02:03:42.480 If you record stuff.

02:03:43.720 All the time.

02:03:45.860 Multiple things.

02:03:46.780 A week.

02:03:47.400 For years on end.

02:03:48.740 Eventually.

02:03:49.140 You'll have a technical problem.

02:03:51.600 Where you recorded something.

02:03:53.120 And for whatever reason.

02:03:55.160 It gets lost or deleted.

02:03:56.300 It will eventually happen.

02:04:00.760 Hopefully never happen.

02:04:01.680 You know.

02:04:01.820 It's disaster when that happens.

02:04:03.920 One time I had.

02:04:04.720 Years ago.

02:04:05.540 Right near the beginning.

02:04:06.340 When I was in the old studio.

02:04:07.520 I had a long form conversation.

02:04:08.960 With a guy.

02:04:09.380 I think he's called.

02:04:11.660 That history chap.

02:04:13.640 Do you know him?

02:04:14.320 I think that's what he calls himself.

02:04:15.840 That history chap.

02:04:17.160 A great YouTuber.

02:04:17.920 Brilliant.

02:04:18.240 Brilliant history YouTuber.

02:04:20.120 Got him on remotely.

02:04:21.340 Have a conversation with him remotely.

02:04:22.440 If I recall.

02:04:23.180 We talked about.

02:04:25.100 I think we talked about.

02:04:26.780 The Wars of the Roses.

02:04:28.600 The Duke of York.

02:04:30.560 Edward the Fourth's father.

02:04:31.780 I believe.

02:04:32.800 Anyway.

02:04:33.080 We had a good hour.

02:04:34.000 Hour and a half.

02:04:34.760 Long conversation.

02:04:36.800 Wrapped it up.

02:04:37.520 Finished it off.

02:04:38.560 After the conversation.

02:04:39.520 The producers go.

02:04:40.220 Sorry.

02:04:41.220 Technical reasons.

02:04:42.840 His side of the conversation.

02:04:44.140 Didn't record.

02:04:44.960 It's worthless.

02:04:46.960 It's ruined.

02:04:47.900 That's nothing.

02:04:48.360 Okay.

02:04:50.620 That happens.

02:04:52.040 If you record.

02:04:52.800 Loads of stuff.

02:04:54.320 Eventually.

02:04:54.860 Something like that will happen.

02:04:56.560 Worse bit about it.

02:04:57.420 Other than that.

02:04:57.860 I've wasted.

02:04:59.180 Time and energy.

02:05:00.400 Is that I had to then go back to him.

02:05:02.220 That history chap.

02:05:02.940 I think that's what he's called.

02:05:03.620 That history chap.

02:05:04.360 I had to go back to him.

02:05:05.060 And say.

02:05:05.420 Sorry.

02:05:06.940 Dreadfully sorry.

02:05:08.860 But.

02:05:09.400 We failed to record it.

02:05:10.940 Entirely our fault.

02:05:12.400 And he was quite gracious about it.

02:05:14.000 But since then.

02:05:14.520 I've asked him to come back.

02:05:15.420 And do another bit.

02:05:16.540 And he just hasn't.

02:05:17.680 And I don't blame him.

02:05:19.360 He just hasn't responded to that.

02:05:21.040 He's not interested now.

02:05:22.100 And I don't blame him.

02:05:26.000 It's a real shame.

02:05:26.900 Because he's a great.

02:05:27.860 Great.

02:05:28.260 Seems like a really great dude.

02:05:29.740 Of course knows his stuff.

02:05:31.720 So if you ever see this.

02:05:33.660 History chap.

02:05:36.440 Can't apologise enough.

02:05:38.640 You're welcome.

02:05:39.940 100% welcome.

02:05:41.080 At any time.

02:05:43.900 Anyway.

02:05:44.440 Saying all of that.

02:05:45.860 We.

02:05:46.160 I had that.

02:05:46.780 It's only happened to me twice.

02:05:48.000 Has it?

02:05:48.560 Twice ever.

02:05:49.160 One was that.

02:05:50.260 And the other one.

02:05:51.140 Was when Marcus came in.

02:05:52.960 About a year before this.

02:05:54.680 He was over in Britain.

02:05:55.600 He lives in Australia.

02:05:56.680 He was over in Britain.

02:05:57.680 And we did a really brilliant recording.

02:05:59.260 All about really early Rome.

02:06:00.480 The Roman kings and stuff.

02:06:01.860 The very very beginnings.

02:06:02.860 Of the Roman Republic.

02:06:03.820 And we recorded loads.

02:06:06.180 We recorded like three, four hours worth.

02:06:08.460 It would have been a few episodes worth of Epochs.

02:06:10.560 And it got, it got lost in a comedy of errors.

02:06:15.180 It got lost.

02:06:16.560 It was filed the wrong way.

02:06:18.780 I won't even bore you too much of the details.

02:06:20.280 But it was a comedy of errors.

02:06:21.540 It was filed the wrong way.

02:06:22.560 And then someone did a sweep to clear up some folders and rename stuff.

02:06:28.400 And it got put in the wrong place.

02:06:29.640 And then to save space.

02:06:30.880 Because even though we've got massive amounts of space.

02:06:34.700 I mean like Lotus Eater's servers.

02:06:37.200 Not servers.

02:06:37.960 In the shared drive.

02:06:39.100 Whatever.

02:06:39.860 Giant amount of space.

02:06:40.880 It's not infinite.

02:06:42.420 It's not infinite.

02:06:43.520 And it got deleted.

02:06:45.640 We didn't work on it quick enough.

02:06:47.660 We sort of sat on it for a couple of months.

02:06:50.460 And when it came to time to edit it and make it into a proper thing.

02:06:54.820 It had been deleted.

02:06:56.820 Disaster.

02:06:58.140 Absolute disaster.

02:06:58.900 The worst bit of it is I have to tell Marcus.

02:07:03.000 Ring him up.

02:07:03.680 You remember that conversation you did?

02:07:05.180 You came halfway across the world.

02:07:06.840 You didn't come just to do that.

02:07:08.120 But remember when you were on the other side of the world.

02:07:10.500 And you spent nearly a whole day talking to me.

02:07:12.460 And we made.

02:07:13.140 We created a brilliant bit of content.

02:07:15.520 Yeah it's gone.

02:07:16.700 It's gone.

02:07:19.920 Embarrassing.

02:07:23.460 A shame.

02:07:24.440 It was a great conversation.

02:07:26.200 Anyway.

02:07:26.880 About a year after that or so.

02:07:28.240 He comes back.

02:07:29.300 And we have a good conversation.

02:07:31.100 Back by the Byzantine Empire. 0.97

02:07:33.300 Was it two part?

02:07:34.080 Was it more than three parter?

02:07:34.840 A three parter.

02:07:35.920 So a long long conversation.

02:07:36.960 With.

02:07:40.700 With Marcus Furious Pertinex.

02:07:43.420 I know.

02:07:44.020 A aquaculturalist.

02:07:44.980 All about.

02:07:46.440 All about.

02:07:48.680 Yeah.

02:07:49.240 Byzantium.

02:07:50.220 And the Fourth Crusade.

02:07:52.060 So yeah.

02:07:52.360 Revisited that one.

02:07:53.400 Because did a conversation with Luca.

02:07:54.740 Didn't I?

02:07:55.060 Earlier on.

02:07:55.660 Like a couple of years before this.

02:07:57.120 About.

02:07:58.520 The Fourth Crusade.

02:08:00.880 Very pivotal thing really.

02:08:02.340 For European history.

02:08:03.040 Or near.

02:08:04.180 Even near Eastern history.

02:08:06.740 The Fourth Crusade.

02:08:07.780 All right.

02:08:08.020 After that.

02:08:08.520 Well I've got A.M. back again.

02:08:09.780 Apostolic Majesty.

02:08:10.480 We'll talk about Talleyrand.

02:08:13.500 Charles Talleyrand.

02:08:15.740 Or Talleyrand.

02:08:16.940 He was one of Napoleon's right hand men.

02:08:19.500 But not military.

02:08:20.320 He was just a statesman.

02:08:21.300 Politician.

02:08:22.560 Diplomat.

02:08:22.920 Fascinating.

02:08:25.940 Fascinating.

02:08:26.480 Fascinating life.

02:08:27.720 Up there was sort of.

02:08:28.420 For me.

02:08:28.860 Up there was sort of.

02:08:29.460 Cato the Younger.

02:08:31.040 Or Augustus.

02:08:32.620 Or Henry V.

02:08:33.820 In terms of.

02:08:34.800 How interesting.

02:08:36.120 His life was.

02:08:37.820 Just packed with events.

02:08:39.080 The whole time.

02:08:40.640 Brilliant stuff.

02:08:43.600 All right.

02:08:43.980 What then?

02:08:44.560 Part two of Talleyrand.

02:08:46.280 Part two of Talleyrand.

02:08:47.240 Then we've got Alex Masters back in.

02:08:48.880 For a second part.

02:08:49.920 About steam.

02:08:50.660 The history of steam.

02:08:51.280 And steam engines. 0.98

02:08:51.980 Because the first one we did.

02:08:55.520 Barely touched on.

02:08:56.580 Like the real history of steam engines.

02:08:58.500 Was talking around it a fair bit.

02:09:00.160 And I kept going back to the very.

02:09:01.800 Very earliest things.

02:09:03.520 And he wanted to.

02:09:04.740 Rightly.

02:09:05.820 Fairly.

02:09:06.800 To actually start talking about.

02:09:08.620 Trains.

02:09:09.100 The history of trains and everything.

02:09:11.500 So I got him in.

02:09:12.100 That was a long conversation.

02:09:12.920 So that went into part four.

02:09:14.440 Yeah.

02:09:14.620 Part two.

02:09:14.980 Part three.

02:09:15.260 And part four.

02:09:16.060 With Alex Masters.

02:09:16.920 That steam guy.

02:09:18.060 Check him out on Twitter.

02:09:19.240 It's called that steam guy.

02:09:20.180 Alex.

02:09:22.140 That steam guy on Twitter.

02:09:23.080 Check him out.

02:09:24.400 Fascinating dude.

02:09:26.360 All right.

02:09:26.720 Then I did.

02:09:27.400 Decided to sort of start.

02:09:28.860 Doing something a little bit different.

02:09:30.000 Before I return.

02:09:31.120 At some point.

02:09:31.780 To the ancient world.

02:09:32.700 And to continuing.

02:09:34.280 The story of.

02:09:35.660 The British monarchy.

02:09:36.500 For whatever reason.

02:09:38.920 It was around Christmas.

02:09:39.840 This is Christmas just gone.

02:09:42.260 I'd been meaning to tell the story.

02:09:44.780 Of the Operation Nimrod.

02:09:46.420 When the SAS.

02:09:47.520 Stormed the Iranian embassy.

02:09:49.140 In London.

02:09:49.780 In 1980.

02:09:51.460 I think that's a fascinating.

02:09:52.620 Brilliant story.

02:09:53.300 And I've wanted to.

02:09:54.060 Tell that.

02:09:55.340 Story.

02:09:55.620 Ever since day one.

02:09:56.400 Ever since the beginning of.

02:09:57.800 History bro even.

02:09:59.500 I've wanted to tell that story.

02:10:00.800 Anyway.

02:10:01.240 At Christmas.

02:10:02.200 Or New Year time.

02:10:03.200 Finally got round.

02:10:04.240 To doing it.

02:10:06.320 And I think.

02:10:08.180 That is.

02:10:09.760 One of my better ones.

02:10:11.240 Top five.

02:10:11.780 Top ten.

02:10:13.100 I think that's a really good one.

02:10:14.200 In my.

02:10:14.600 You know.

02:10:14.800 Just my personal opinion.

02:10:16.820 Anyway.

02:10:17.220 People did seem to like it.

02:10:18.760 So.

02:10:19.560 I thought we'd do more.

02:10:20.660 Sort of.

02:10:21.260 Special Forces.

02:10:22.780 Operations.

02:10:23.700 Raids.

02:10:24.140 Special Forces raids.

02:10:25.000 And things like that.

02:10:26.140 So the next one I did.

02:10:26.940 Was about.

02:10:28.860 Oh and that SAS one.

02:10:29.860 It's a freemium by the way.

02:10:30.640 You can watch it in full.

02:10:31.620 For free.

02:10:32.040 Without signing up.

02:10:33.040 To the website.

02:10:33.600 Or anything.

02:10:34.240 A few of them are freemium.

02:10:35.640 There's got to be a dozen or so.

02:10:36.760 Are freemium.

02:10:37.440 Maybe.

02:10:37.760 Is it that many?

02:10:38.660 Some of them are.

02:10:39.400 Completely free.

02:10:40.000 In their entirety.

02:10:41.120 You don't have to pay the five pound a month.

02:10:42.660 But do consider becoming.

02:10:44.520 If you're watching this.

02:10:45.200 Because this one will be freemium.

02:10:48.260 If you're watching this.

02:10:49.320 For free.

02:10:50.440 And you want.

02:10:51.240 To watch any of these.

02:10:52.960 You can either buy them individually.

02:10:54.360 For like a pound.

02:10:55.000 Or two pounds.

02:10:55.520 Or something.

02:10:56.460 Or.

02:10:56.980 Just become.

02:10:57.800 A member.

02:10:58.620 Of.

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02:11:01.220 Become a bronze member.

02:11:02.240 For five pound a month.

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02:11:03.640 To all of it.

02:11:04.480 Absolutely all of it.

02:11:05.600 And everyone else's content.

02:11:08.300 All right.

02:11:08.640 So after the SS one. 0.90

02:11:09.520 I did one about.

02:11:10.500 When the German. 0.98

02:11:12.000 Nazi special forces.

02:11:13.140 In World War Two.

02:11:14.560 Rescued Mussolini.

02:11:15.920 Mussolini was being held.

02:11:17.160 Under arrest.

02:11:17.920 By Italians. 0.75

02:11:19.280 After his regime fell.

02:11:21.160 Hitler didn't like that.

02:11:22.140 So he went and.

02:11:22.620 A daring mountain top raid.

02:11:26.460 By Nazi special forces.

02:11:28.400 In World War Two.

02:11:30.160 Classic story.

02:11:32.480 Then I finally finished.

02:11:33.860 The Verdun thing.

02:11:35.240 Part three.

02:11:35.760 Finally.

02:11:36.660 Part three of Verdun.

02:11:37.680 So you can see how I struggled.

02:11:43.240 To finish the Verdun story.

02:11:45.120 But I did.

02:11:45.600 In the end.

02:11:47.460 Then I did one.

02:11:48.480 Going back to special forces.

02:11:49.580 The origins.

02:11:51.200 Of the SAS.

02:11:52.240 All about David Sterling.

02:11:53.500 And the.

02:11:53.820 The war in North Africa.

02:11:56.320 Against Rommel.

02:11:57.880 And elements of the Luftwaffe.

02:11:59.680 In North Africa.

02:12:01.340 Again.

02:12:01.520 I think that's one of my better ones.

02:12:02.760 As well.

02:12:03.060 Another very good one.

02:12:04.100 I think.

02:12:04.420 Very interesting one.

02:12:06.980 Then I talked about the raid.

02:12:08.460 This is only a few weeks ago now.

02:12:09.860 Yeah.

02:12:10.040 Yeah.

02:12:10.240 We're nearly there.

02:12:11.560 The raid on Santasair.

02:12:12.560 Again.

02:12:12.740 A classic.

02:12:13.700 World War Two era.

02:12:15.180 Special forces.

02:12:16.100 Commando raid.

02:12:18.140 People that love their.

02:12:19.860 World War Two stories.

02:12:21.420 And commando raids.

02:12:22.360 It's a very famous one.

02:12:24.820 It's a great.

02:12:25.600 Again.

02:12:26.140 Just a great story.

02:12:27.780 And then just last week.

02:12:28.840 Yeah.

02:12:28.980 Last week.

02:12:29.440 I did.

02:12:29.840 The story of.

02:12:31.080 Vietnam.

02:12:31.920 In Vietnam.

02:12:32.540 Navy SEALs.

02:12:34.060 The Navy SEALs.

02:12:35.020 Operations.

02:12:35.780 In Vietnam.

02:12:38.340 And so.

02:12:39.300 That brings us up to date.

02:12:41.020 And now we're.

02:12:41.460 Episode 250.

02:12:43.080 And going forward.

02:12:44.060 I will do more.

02:12:44.640 Special forces stuff.

02:12:46.080 I'm going to continue my.

02:12:47.920 Thing.

02:12:48.480 All about.

02:12:49.840 The monarchy.

02:12:51.120 The English monarchy.

02:12:51.680 So what.

02:12:52.580 I got up to.

02:12:53.940 Henry.

02:12:54.400 And finished.

02:12:55.140 Henry V.

02:12:55.740 So I'll now go on to.

02:12:56.840 His son.

02:12:57.760 Henry VI.

02:12:58.640 And onwards.

02:13:00.300 There'll be.

02:13:01.060 Dozens and dozens.

02:13:01.860 Maybe hundreds of episodes.

02:13:02.920 More on that.

02:13:03.840 To get us up to date.

02:13:04.820 On that.

02:13:05.940 We'll always keep.

02:13:06.800 Cooking away on that.

02:13:08.860 Much much more.

02:13:09.720 Ancient history stuff.

02:13:10.820 I'm going to do.

02:13:12.740 What.

02:13:13.360 Alexander.

02:13:14.380 The Diatici.

02:13:15.220 All the successors.

02:13:15.960 Of Alexander.

02:13:17.340 I'm going to do.

02:13:18.460 Hannibal.

02:13:19.060 Again.

02:13:20.140 The Xerxes.

02:13:21.580 I'm going to do.

02:13:23.000 The.

02:13:23.360 The Anabasis of Xerxes.

02:13:25.340 Loads more ancient history stuff.

02:13:26.520 Pyrus of Epirus.

02:13:27.440 Got to do all of those things.

02:13:29.200 Multiple.

02:13:29.860 Part series.

02:13:30.500 All of those things on their own.

02:13:31.900 Loads and loads more.

02:13:32.600 Endless things to talk about.

02:13:33.600 From ancient history.

02:13:34.800 And medieval history.

02:13:35.880 And.

02:13:36.380 Well.

02:13:37.040 Just.

02:13:37.440 Long may it last.

02:13:38.240 Oh.

02:13:38.400 One other thing I'll say.

02:13:39.160 There is someone out there.

02:13:40.680 More than one person I think.

02:13:41.620 But certainly one person.

02:13:43.020 Who's very.

02:13:43.640 Very.

02:13:43.960 Very.

02:13:44.620 Kindly.

02:13:45.020 Asked me to do more stuff.

02:13:46.440 About.

02:13:47.160 The Royal Navy.

02:13:48.100 During the age of.

02:13:49.780 Cochran.

02:13:51.020 And.

02:13:52.140 The age of.

02:13:53.580 The late age of sale.

02:13:55.620 The Royal Navy.

02:13:56.240 After.

02:13:57.000 In and around.

02:13:57.760 And after.

02:13:59.340 Nelson.

02:13:59.840 And I will do that.

02:14:00.520 I've said I will.

02:14:01.760 They've been asking very nicely.

02:14:02.920 For a very long time.

02:14:04.500 And for a very long time.

02:14:05.460 I've said yes.

02:14:05.800 I will do that eventually.

02:14:07.480 But I will.

02:14:08.360 I will.

02:14:08.920 I'm not just entirely fobbing you off.

02:14:10.920 I should hopefully get to that.

02:14:12.320 This year at some point.

02:14:13.760 In the first half of this year.

02:14:14.740 Hopefully.

02:14:16.200 All right.

02:14:16.660 So.

02:14:17.780 So loads more to do.

02:14:19.020 Onwards and upwards.

02:14:19.660 I hope.

02:14:20.700 That.

02:14:21.320 I will reach.

02:14:22.820 Five.

02:14:23.200 Five hundred episodes.

02:14:24.120 A thousand episodes.

02:14:24.980 Why not?

02:14:25.840 As long as Lotus Eaters is going.

02:14:28.000 And as long as I'm working.

02:14:29.780 Here.

02:14:31.620 I will do everything I can.

02:14:33.260 To deliver you.

02:14:34.000 A long form bit of history content.

02:14:35.620 On a Sunday.

02:14:36.300 That's my promise to you.

02:14:39.800 If I ever don't.

02:14:40.860 There will be an exceptional reason.

02:14:42.040 Why not?

02:14:43.060 Like I've been terribly.

02:14:44.020 Terribly.

02:14:44.440 I've been like bedridden ill.

02:14:46.000 With flu.

02:14:47.020 That would be the only thing.

02:14:47.920 I could imagine.

02:14:48.560 That would prevent it from happening.

02:14:51.320 And I'm rarely ill.

02:14:53.160 Like that ill anyway.

02:14:55.260 Feel a little under the weather.

02:14:56.220 Quite often.

02:14:56.640 But bedridden ill.

02:14:58.180 With a fever.

02:14:58.840 I can't get out of bed.

02:15:00.580 I can't focus.

02:15:01.620 And stand up and stuff.

02:15:02.380 I'm very very very rarely ill.

02:15:04.260 Like that.

02:15:05.060 If ever really.

02:15:05.860 So.

02:15:07.080 It's my promise to you.

02:15:08.160 I could keep bringing you this content.

02:15:10.040 I love it.

02:15:10.540 I'm proud of it.

02:15:11.280 I enjoy it.

02:15:12.400 I hope you do too.

02:15:13.600 I really do hope you do too.

02:15:15.660 I know some people love it.

02:15:16.920 I know some people.

02:15:18.180 Might sort of tut at this episode.

02:15:20.440 Of Epochs.

02:15:21.660 Because it's not the usual thing.

02:15:23.600 But I think some people.

02:15:24.620 Will also appreciate it.

02:15:26.100 And like to know.

02:15:26.700 A little bit of the behind the scenes.

02:15:27.860 A little bit of the back stories.

02:15:28.900 Of some of the.

02:15:29.640 Some of the things.

02:15:30.860 Alright.

02:15:31.440 I think this video has been long enough.

02:15:32.860 As it is.

02:15:33.780 Episode 250.

02:15:34.500 I'll try and do something a little bit special.

02:15:37.220 Maybe something a little bit different.

02:15:38.240 For episode 260.

02:15:39.180 Because episode 260.

02:15:40.820 Will mark the fifth.

02:15:42.500 The fifth year anniversary.

02:15:45.100 Won't it?

02:15:45.700 That will be exactly five years worth.

02:15:48.420 Episode 260.

02:15:49.480 So I'll do something a little bit different there.

02:15:51.080 Not this sort of thing.

02:15:52.060 But maybe talk about Bo Brummel.

02:15:53.900 My namesake.

02:15:54.880 Or maybe talk about.

02:15:56.360 Major Francis Langhorne Dade.

02:15:58.280 My ancestor.

02:15:59.920 Who fought the American Indians.

02:16:02.080 In modern day Florida.

02:16:03.820 Maybe something like that.

02:16:05.060 Something a bit different for episode 260.

02:16:06.800 But beyond that.

02:16:07.560 I shall keep going.

02:16:08.700 And please do watch.

02:16:09.980 Please do consider signing up.

02:16:11.280 To lotusseaters.com.

02:16:14.020 Coming at least a bronze tier member.

02:16:16.660 We'd love to have you.

02:16:17.600 All right.

02:16:20.700 Well with all that said.

02:16:22.220 Thanks once again for watching.

02:16:23.980 And we shall see you.

02:16:25.120 I shall see you next week.

02:16:26.600 Take care.

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - February 15, 2026

FREEMIUM： Epochs #250 ｜ The History of Epochs

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