The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - It's an Absolute Bloodbath

00:00:00.000 hi folks welcome to another one of our political chats it is the morning after the day before

00:00:05.800 uh the comet has hit the labor party and i mean i'm gonna try not to look so happy about it

00:00:12.780 throughout this whole thing but it's been great well not only did the comet hit it then reversed

00:00:17.960 up and then just ran over labor again and then just did that a few more times yeah yeah and not

00:00:22.700 just labour um so it's it's been um quite bad so far however most of the results actually still

00:00:30.540 aren't in uh with local council elections and the devolved councils they actually don't count them

00:00:35.960 through the night even though the votes are counted in the thousands rather than the tens

00:00:41.440 or hundreds of thousands yes so they could have done but they don't for whatever reason

00:00:45.640 and there is a little bit of a bias here in that the in-city places are more likely to count through

00:00:51.140 the night because they got the infrastructure to do it and they got less traveling to get them

00:00:54.940 there so it's the leafier places but nevertheless that's well understood in british politics and

00:00:59.520 therefore even though the first results are extra um you know skewed towards urban centers we can

00:01:04.720 take that into account yeah and so there are lots of results that aren't out yet but we're going to

00:01:09.960 go through the ones that are out we're recording this at about 11 o'clock on friday morning so

00:01:14.520 we have a fair amount in actually which is enough to draw some conclusions and the conclusions aren't

00:01:20.680 great so we're going to go through what the predictions were and then see how they're

00:01:24.260 beginning to stack up with the results so i mean this is just an article from uh what was it the

00:01:29.040 telegraph or someone like uh new statesman sorry uh where the and i've just picked this as just a

00:01:35.580 common uh barometer of the expectations of these results it's just this is going to be a wipe out

00:01:41.460 in england labor are just going to get creamed i mean these expectations are important important

00:01:45.820 because if Labour had had just a bad night

00:01:48.800 and they were expected to have a terrible night,

00:01:51.760 Starmer could have a credible claim to hanging on.

00:01:56.680 Spoiler alert, he did not have just a bad night.

00:01:59.240 Well, we'll get into it.

00:02:00.720 So again, just as we were talking before,

00:02:03.520 the polls haven't really shifted overall.

00:02:06.480 Reform on 25, so they've gone up one point on average

00:02:09.480 in their 24 slump,

00:02:11.260 so they've recovered slightly and they've plateaued there.

00:02:13.960 another very mild spoiler alert even though reform have come off quite a lot it goes to show what you

00:02:20.260 can do when all your opposition is fragmented as yes yes yeah the the most notable thing here really

00:02:25.580 is the greens have had a bit of a slump recently yes um but they're still well within the sort of

00:02:30.740 16 to 18 percentage points the lib dems uh not really anything's changed and restore britain

00:02:36.300 of course still down at four percent which is good for a party that still isn't being prompted

00:02:40.220 on the polls so the projections for the seats look something like this now this stats for lefties

00:02:47.880 does incredible work when it comes to the actual objective data don't look at their profile but the

00:02:53.840 the work they do is genuinely incredible and what this is an average of projections produced by eight

00:02:58.340 polling experts that didn't use ai so that aren't just ai slop and so the final projected results

00:03:04.420 they've come to is 1656 for reform 656 for greens 152 for lib dems other which includes lots of

00:03:12.920 muslim independence 99 but that would also include restore uh minus 760 for the conservatives and

00:03:19.440 minus 1803 for the labor party now the there are about 5 000 seats being contested and i think

00:03:27.960 there's like 12 000 in total is it 16 there's a lot more yeah it's about a third of the seats

00:03:33.360 Yeah, that are being contested today or yesterday.

00:03:36.840 And Labour have about 2,500 of them, something like that.

00:03:42.600 So there's a lot that Labour can lose,

00:03:45.280 and they are being projected that they will lose.

00:03:48.360 There are loads of these projections, of course,

00:03:50.260 and you've got other projections where you've got people saying,

00:03:52.360 well, 1,400 for the Reform Party,

00:03:57.140 and then Labour losing 1,300, or somewhere between 900 to 1,300,

00:04:01.560 because, of course, these are all up in the air.

00:04:03.360 But so it's basically the same story that everyone has, which is, well, it's going to be rough for everyone on the ground, apart for it.

00:04:14.740 Well, rough for the two party system.

00:04:17.400 Right.

00:04:17.600 Yes.

00:04:17.900 The Labour and the Conservatives.

00:04:19.280 As we've been saying on the show for a long time, the centre is just dead.

00:04:22.400 Yeah.

00:04:22.820 It's done.

00:04:23.260 Yeah.

00:04:23.880 Sky News actually have quite a good breakdown here.

00:04:26.680 and this is where they point out there's 25 000 candidates competing for the 5 000 seats which is

00:04:31.620 actually as they tell us an unprecedented level of choice for local elections because again local

00:04:36.960 elections normally get about 30 29 30 percent of turnout people are not really that bothered about

00:04:41.880 them generally for some reason but this one has become particularly fascinating for years in this

00:04:47.980 country it was normal to have two choices it wasn't unheard of to have a single choice because

00:04:53.620 people just didn't take local elections seriously and i don't think people do take um local elections

00:04:58.640 seriously at this point but they are willing to use them as a as effectively a uk midterms

00:05:04.020 that and that is generally how this is being received by not just the political class

00:05:09.140 but i think people in general i think it is being understood that no we're actually going to

00:05:14.740 cause a bit of a ruckus here because the turnout from what has come out so far does seem to be

00:05:20.320 higher than normal yes we'll get into that uh in a bit um but the the point that you made that our

00:05:28.640 electoral system being completely shattered and fragmented is not something it is actually

00:05:32.980 designed for and this is really beginning to show here because they point out that in the 2024

00:05:38.460 elections um some one candidate won a seat with 15 support 15 of the vote okay right because so

00:05:47.080 many options i'm out if you get like five percent seven eight percent well i got fifteen percent

00:05:51.420 that's continental politics that is yes but it's in a system that's not designed for it

00:05:55.600 so it's in the first part of the post so it's winner take all well i mean that's that's i mean

00:05:59.560 if you listen to um mainstream media um which i i dipped into this morning they're all saying

00:06:07.720 that they don't think the two-party system can survive that the first part of the post can't

00:06:11.280 survive on the back of this that's not my take on it because actually changing something as

00:06:15.200 fundamental as the first past the post is a major that would actually be more difficult than just

00:06:19.480 deporting all the nons for example it is it is a major constitutional shake-up but i think they're

00:06:25.000 right that our political system is not designed for this level of fragmentation so probably what's

00:06:30.200 going to happen is is some of the parties are just going to have to die which is why we're going to

00:06:35.260 get into whatever the new paradigm is and these results are a strong indication as to what that's

00:06:40.120 going to look like yeah and that's that's why this local election uh this set of local elections

00:06:45.300 are so interesting to the political commentariat oh yeah because the we are witnessing in real time

00:06:52.100 the death of the old world yeah i think i think i heard on the beau show this morning breakfast

00:06:56.620 of beau do check that out every morning that's good um one of the um one of the one of the super

00:07:01.320 chats he had in at the end was apparently the americans were announcing they discovered

00:07:04.980 alien life today or something i mean interesting but nobody is nobody is going to care about that

00:07:12.700 at all right nobody in britain is paying attention to that whatsoever because this is more important

00:07:17.180 yeah no yeah this actually matters um so yes things are going badly for labor and so the

00:07:25.280 backstabbing has begun now this is a remarkable uh insider article from the telegraph uh because

00:07:31.880 apparently a group of Labour MPs have um prepared an open letter demanding a timetable for Keir

00:07:36.540 Starmer's resignation because they were well aware oh my god this is this is going to be horrible I

00:07:42.260 mean literally a bloodbath um number 10 found that uh West Streeting has apparently secretly

00:07:47.680 gathered the 81 MPs needed to trigger a formal leadership challenge how do you think they found

00:07:52.860 out about that well I mean when it's 81 people and their MPs I mean they're not exactly gonna

00:07:59.320 be that good at keeping secrets so they've probably been telling journalists for months now

00:08:02.580 yeah you'd think that'd be the way that they'd find out wouldn't you yeah no it turns out that

00:08:06.120 some retard accidentally texted downing street the secret plan this is the level of incompetence

00:08:13.140 in the labor party yes those are the people are wanting the country exactly you can't even run

00:08:18.880 your own secret plots like you you absolute morons right right and another another thing

00:08:26.000 that comes out of this

00:08:26.620 is that Starmer

00:08:27.620 is just so

00:08:28.140 historically unpopular

00:08:28.920 his own candidates

00:08:29.600 were literally begging him

00:08:30.820 to stay away

00:08:31.180 from the campaign trail

00:08:31.960 oh yeah

00:08:32.540 that's one of the things

00:08:33.960 I did notice

00:08:34.500 if you looked at any

00:08:36.000 of the election

00:08:37.760 campaigning material

00:08:38.780 that Labour candidates

00:08:39.860 put out

00:08:40.320 didn't have him on it

00:08:41.720 not only did it

00:08:43.000 definitely not have

00:08:43.820 him on it

00:08:44.660 quite a lot of the time

00:08:45.680 they didn't even have

00:08:46.300 the word Labour on it

00:08:47.200 they tried to present them

00:08:49.280 as independent candidates

00:08:50.380 because they knew

00:08:51.120 that if they had Labour

00:08:52.040 or God forbid

00:08:53.540 if they had Keir Starmer

00:08:54.720 on the leaflet

00:08:55.320 they were just done and that's normally what the conservatives do yeah yes he made only 11 visits

00:09:01.980 in the campaigning season of two months uh because voters of course find him completely toxic now

00:09:07.860 this is not good um but also what's not good for labor is their uh coalition is just falling apart

00:09:13.560 as uh five pillars point out here british muslims are abandoning labor in historic numbers uh there's

00:09:19.660 only 33 percent of muslims in areas of high muslim population density would vote for labor

00:09:24.400 uh that's really brutal i mean if if it wasn't it used to be 90 yeah i mean it used to be 90 i mean

00:09:32.400 if it wasn't that it came along with the destruction of my country i'd probably find

00:09:36.880 this really funny because labor spent 30 years bringing in as many muslims as they possibly could

00:09:42.240 under the assumption that they would vote labor and they would get to be in power forever

00:09:46.260 and what actually happened is they brought in so many that they decided you know what we can

00:09:51.860 actually just do our own thing now we don't need labor anymore and so and so it's split labor down

00:09:56.720 the middle that all of their new voters have gone on they offended their existing voters to such a

00:10:02.240 degree that they've gone as well so even the conservatives somehow are in a better position

00:10:07.740 than labor because labor has just broken their whole their whole internal coalition apart with

00:10:12.520 this it's amazing isn't it i mean look at this look at these numbers so out of the 90 that they

00:10:16.840 had up until uh only a few years ago now it's only 33 percent 27 of them would vote green which

00:10:23.800 again exactly what you expect 14 would go for a pro-gaza independent and this is what you're

00:10:28.960 saying yep nine percent would vote conservative and five percent would vote reform well and

00:10:34.940 nigel forage will invest an enormous amount of energy in driving that to six and a half percent

00:10:39.960 and probably fail all that pandering yes five percent yes what a terrible embarrassment so

00:10:47.220 much back and and what you're going to see is is basically it's going to cascade through that so

00:10:51.460 of those remaining labor muslims a lot of them will trickle into the greens but it's going to

00:10:56.120 be the same story all over again it's going to be yeah this is a vehicle to get us so far yeah

00:11:00.680 and the moment i mean a bit like um i mean the uh the president of turkey um erdogan said this

00:11:06.100 years ago he said the democracy is a bus and you get off when it gets you to where you're going

00:11:11.160 yeah and that's true for these people and so i mean it's true for everyone but it's

00:11:16.300 yeah like i hate using the word sectarian because sectarian implies um internal conflict within

00:11:22.400 a particular religion right this is an this is an alien religion that's not having that we can't

00:11:28.220 have a sectarian is a better word because i can't no not really that's the problem but anyway look

00:11:33.480 this was an eminently predictable yes this was eminently predictable all right when you give

00:11:38.160 them a critical mass they'll end up voting for their own pro-gaza independence will they yeah

00:11:41.520 until they get a proper muslim party they will yeah and one day they'll get like in belgium have

00:11:46.360 and was i think it's the netherlands will have like an actual islamist party at this yes it's

00:11:51.480 like oh great that's what and if politics stays ragmented to your point you you can normally win

00:11:56.540 on like 30 of the vote yeah but as you pointed out you can sometimes win on 15 on the vote

00:12:01.220 lots of cities and lots of regions lots of constituencies in this country today

00:12:06.100 because yes our muslim population isn't actually that large americans sometimes think it's much

00:12:11.140 it's only about seven or eight percent yeah officially it's 6.5 but it's probably about

00:12:16.000 seven or eight percent but where they are yeah they come in numbers that's right so they they

00:12:20.920 concentrated in the yeah they will be able to have their own lib dem size party quite soon

00:12:25.280 probably the next election yeah yeah no unfortunately that's definitely true in fact

00:12:29.900 we um we can map it out so there's uh the british the muslim council of britain actually have some

00:12:35.120 numbers on this they say that there are 32 out of the 650 constituencies with a significant which

00:12:40.540 is 20 or more muslim population aged 18 years and above so you can expect there to be around 30

00:12:47.060 gaza mps come the next election i mean just just remarkable yeah i mean just that gaza has 30 mps

00:12:55.380 in britain yeah thank you tony blair from and the conservative party for really rubbing our faces

00:13:00.360 in diversity yeah mission achieved yeah mission accomplished good job but i guess that explains

00:13:04.920 the net favorabilities right everyone hates everyone um kia starmer obviously rishi sunak

00:13:12.740 back there in october minus 30 kia starmer minus 45 nigel farage minus 16 so that's not bad

00:13:19.280 davy minus 12 kemi baden not really only weirdly only on minus six but she's a bit of a non-entity

00:13:24.740 that's that's the other normie media take that if you listen to the normie media they will say that

00:13:30.100 um the conservatives and the labor have the opposite problem uh in in labor keir starmer

00:13:35.340 is even more unpopular than his party somehow yeah but but kemi badenock is more popular than

00:13:40.020 a party yes okay yes normie commentators that is true but it's still negative yeah it's still

00:13:46.640 it's still all the way down but and also the other thing about this chart right is the only reason

00:13:51.720 it looks comprehensible is because they can scale it because everybody is negative if you were to

00:13:59.060 put if you were to put naiba kelly on the same chart the scaling would be so off that you wouldn't

00:14:05.040 be able to read the bit at the bottom yeah his his positive figure is about plus 75 percent yes

00:14:10.300 which is in net plus 75 yes as in he gets about 80 to 90 percent you you made a good video on

00:14:17.080 on your was it a cad day recently where he said look what if a politician just presses the fix

00:14:23.700 everything button what happens plus 75 favorability and and in this country all we get is explanations

00:14:31.220 as to why you can't have what you want yes everybody is negative and kemi badenock is

00:14:36.800 held out to be some sort of master politician because she's on minus six

00:14:40.980 but i mean look at keir starmer he began with a positive rating like and then actually yeah

00:14:50.360 yeah he did he began with like a plus 10 rating which is surprisingly good i mean no one else

00:14:55.640 has had that and then yes south and then then he had the brilliant idea of responding to a mass

00:15:02.020 murder by blaming parents who were upset about it berating and hectoring the white british

00:15:08.280 population is upset that their children are being stabbed and that that within the first few months

00:15:13.880 of his leadership ensured that labor would probably never form a government again right and then

00:15:19.440 recently he he he has seen uh the mandelton crisis he was seen to have pushed through a friend of a

00:15:26.440 pedophile um into a key influence position where he was literally giving away state secrets for

00:15:32.300 access to whatever goes on in that island and that's and that's really like a friend of a

00:15:37.240 paedophile is kind of underselling it as well yes a friend of the world's most notorious paedophile

00:15:42.760 well yes trafficker yes and if that wasn't bad enough literally giving away state secrets at

00:15:48.180 sensitive crisis points so i mean yeah i mean how is he still on minus 45 yeah i know who what what

00:15:55.440 does a keir starmer supporter look like at this point but the thing we haven't mentioned is one

00:16:00.780 mr polanski oh yes yeah as you can see his his favorability was doing quite well but that's

00:16:07.960 because most of the electorate just didn't know who he was well he was ahead of he was ahead of

00:16:11.860 farage yeah quite recently wasn't he and because there'd be you know the the sort of 30 percent

00:16:16.780 who were like yeah i love zach polanski like you know 10 or 15 percent like or whatever the numbers

00:16:22.520 are but the percentage that don't like zach polanski but then like 50 percent of people

00:16:26.200 like i've never heard of zach polanski they hadn't made up their mind yet his star has been steadily

00:16:30.340 rising he's become a national figure essentially what we're saying is is quite important to make

00:16:35.780 a good first impression on those 50 when you do cut through to that 50 make sure that you're

00:16:41.160 presenting them with an image that they can think yeah that's all right i agree with that yeah don't

00:16:45.540 be like i'm annoyed that you're kicking a man who stabbed people in the face in the head the police

00:16:51.200 definitely shouldn't be kicking this guy to get the knife out of his hand after he's literally

00:16:55.920 you stab two people in the face yeah i mean for anyone who's not british watching um we had a

00:17:01.320 stabbing um in was it london gold is green gold is green yeah gold is green in london which is a

00:17:06.000 very jewish area there was a man decided oh there's some jews here i will stab them in the face

00:17:10.360 yes and the police uh unarmed grabbed this guy put him to the floor tasered him but he wouldn't

00:17:15.460 let go of the knife and so they started kicking him in the head to get him to let go of the knife

00:17:18.500 and zach polanski was like that's unacceptable yes yeah and it's like no the fact that he wasn't

00:17:23.260 shot immediately and accepted yes yeah but that was the first thing that got through to the 50

00:17:29.040 percent of the people who hadn't heard him yeah thus the almost straight line down 14 points

00:17:34.500 downwards yes um so not not great for mr polanski um but this has always been the problem with the

00:17:40.880 greens is that um normally in in historic times the greens were just kind of kooks like eco kooks

00:17:48.340 but the it was very clear they were seen as harmless yeah exactly seems like you know harmless

00:17:52.780 sort of eccentric eco coups kind of like pierce corbyn yeah sandal wearing yogurt weaving lentilists

00:17:59.180 that sort of thing exactly and what polanski has done is and this has been happening for a while

00:18:05.300 but they've been sort of bringing in the sort of radical left into the party to pander to radical

00:18:10.480 leftist student radical leftist and uh foreigners and so okay that's great and you've still got the

00:18:17.140 green branding so underneath the uh actual branding something has changed something

00:18:22.080 substantively different has changed um it's only a matter of time until the public eventually sees

00:18:26.700 that oh yeah and when they finally see what the green party has become they're gonna be like oh

00:18:31.300 right i don't want that and so all really that we want about zach polanski is further exposure to

00:18:36.800 the public yes that's what we want i know i want i want to see the open borders policies i want to

00:18:41.720 see the pandering to minorities policies i want him to see the i'm going to destroy the economy

00:18:45.880 policies and i want him to just say yeah basically i'm going to offer up your country as a buffet

00:18:51.680 to everyone else i mean i was at a family gathering not so long ago which um the way that the

00:18:58.280 generation sizes in the uk work means i've got loads of aunts and uncles because because they're

00:19:02.300 boomers there's just it's loads of them that's literally they're literally a baby boom right

00:19:05.620 yeah and and the subject i'd like 12 of them yes and and and the subject of the greens came up and

00:19:11.700 and they were talking about them like they're actually a green party and i was sat there

00:19:16.120 listening to this and thinking should i no i know i'm just i'll continue no no that's good that's

00:19:21.820 good um so like let's talk about them like they're actually a green party how do you explain this

00:19:27.520 person right this is one of their candidates uh who herself is descended from a nigerian royal

00:19:35.300 house like dr shola chauti shola um who herself is the descendant of slave traders right because

00:19:42.440 that's what the nigerian royal houses were yes they would sell them big time to the british in

00:19:47.320 fact and to the portuguese and whoever in fact they they when we stopped the slave trade it was

00:19:53.020 those guys who went mental it's like what you're cutting off our business they literally begged us

00:19:58.760 yes not do this and she's the descendant of that saying no we need to be paying reparation to black

00:20:04.560 people it's like but that would be you and that would mean that you want reparations for lost

00:20:09.540 business so essentially this sounds like an invocation of tort law as in you're interfering

00:20:14.320 with my contracts i mean talk about double dipping yeah why why this person is in the green party

00:20:22.380 is the question right how how do you explain that to your boomerangs and uncles

00:20:26.080 well the way well the way i would actually explain it is um white people are stupid

00:20:31.980 enough to get conned like this yes and you're one of them because you think the greens are

00:20:36.520 about the environment yes so anyway um just to be clear there's also uh local devolved elections

00:20:44.380 in scotland and wales at the moment um but these results won't be until later anyway um but the

00:20:51.420 uh the breaking news labor are going to get crushed in both of them uh it looks like played

00:20:57.280 cymru and reform will be uh vying for first place in wales uh which has been held by labor for 27

00:21:06.120 years now i mean again again to put again since since the beginning of the devolved parliaments

00:21:10.660 to put to put wales is labor labor is wales it is effectively the same thing to put this

00:21:16.960 in perspective for anybody not from the uk welsh people are um i mean they're just these

00:21:22.380 that they want to be miners yeah they're basically are dwarves they're very annoyed that they have to

00:21:27.580 be above ground they don't really like it they want to be under there mining coal and that is

00:21:32.700 where the Labour Party effectively came from the early Labour politicians were overwhelmingly Welsh

00:21:39.100 it is it is a Welsh creation so for Labour to get wiped out and well they're not quite wiped out but

00:21:45.980 they're but they've received a proper beating brutal yeah in Wales I mean that is huge news

00:21:52.080 like i say the results aren't in but um yeah you're exactly right it was welshmen who created

00:21:58.520 the labor party yes and all like nye bevan and all that with the nhs and all this right

00:22:03.800 and you know fair enough this is you know a perfectly respectable thing to have done

00:22:09.180 and it was of course labor who created the devolved parliaments yep so the welsh senate

00:22:13.820 and wales have ruled it for 27 years as a fiefdom and now they've lost it basically

00:22:19.820 everything that the Labour Party

00:22:22.280 have done, everything in that

00:22:24.220 Blair revolution, rubbing the

00:22:26.120 rights nose and diversity, so bringing massive diversity

00:22:28.340 that destroyed them because they brought in so many

00:22:30.240 Muslims that they became dependent on them

00:22:32.220 and then they split out

00:22:33.180 this now, the devolved Parliament

00:22:36.180 again, it

00:22:37.740 screwed them on this, and of course the

00:22:39.920 signature Blair reform was basically

00:22:42.300 taking all of the power

00:22:43.660 out of Parliament and pushing

00:22:46.320 it into quangos

00:22:47.240 so that means that even if Labour wanted to do anything about anything they can't now even do it

00:22:54.600 so so Labour basically you it it it just a quick thing on that Keir Starmer literally said I pull

00:23:00.360 a lever and nothing happens yes and it's like yeah you are now finding yourself butting up

00:23:04.680 to your own party's constitutional innovations but effectively new Labour changed the rules in

00:23:11.280 such a way as to guarantee 20 years 20 30 years later their own destruction yes and there's nothing

00:23:17.960 they can do at this point the chickens are very clearly coming home to roost here and uh i'm all

00:23:22.180 for it because oh yeah screw the labor party uh anyway so let's get into some results so far

00:23:27.140 i'm just going to refresh this because like i said the results are still coming in and we've

00:23:30.980 had this up for a little while so just to make sure we've got the uh the latest data so we've

00:23:36.860 had about a thousand seats come in um reform have won 300 of them which is not bad labor have lost

00:23:42.780 200 of them but they have won 245 so it's not that they haven't won anything it's that they've just

00:23:51.140 lost about half of just yeah but i mean we're talking about you've got to remember a lot a lot

00:23:56.540 of people vote and have voted that way their entire lives yeah a lot of people don't think

00:24:01.200 about politics ever they when with their when they get involved in politics they ask their parents

00:24:05.780 who they vote for and they get told and a lot of people don't think past that stage so a lot of

00:24:09.660 seat a lot of regions have been labor forever or at least the last 100 years okay and and and so

00:24:16.860 actually there's a huge amount of momentum to overcome so yes they are going to win some seat

00:24:20.960 well they're retaining seats yeah that's the most they can do at this point so the the thing that

00:24:26.040 we're learning so far is actually that the greens are the ones underperforming here

00:24:32.100 yes the lib dems are doing quite well actually uh the conservatives are not getting wiped out

00:24:38.640 as badly as expected and reform are doing pretty much par on the average of predictions at this

00:24:45.240 point yeah um but the greens are the ones who are underperforming uh we've got i think uh yeah more

00:24:50.340 in from here here's a slightly updated one actually because this is a problem so again

00:24:54.740 like the the lib dems uh this is the total number not the uh the net change you can see the net

00:24:59.960 change at the bottom again the green's only on 27 libs on 37 reform of course 400 was this is the

00:25:06.440 sort of thing we'd expect just just going through this this this has been reforms election yeah of

00:25:12.860 course um again everyone knew it would be yeah um restore aren't in the game yet because they're

00:25:18.540 too new yeah they're they're they're still getting the the nuts and bolts of party apparatus set up

00:25:23.700 so this is they they weren't able to contest local election just a quick thing on that it's

00:25:27.720 probably best to stay out of this oh yeah because there there is something titanic happening and

00:25:33.040 it's a in fact we'll get to uh that in a minute but it's probably best to just let this play

00:25:39.360 itself out right because this is not something that is um something that uh clever campaigning

00:25:47.000 can actually turn yes i actually think this is kind of written into the stars uh the the labor

00:25:52.840 and conservative parties would just get absolutely stomped as a protest from the british electorate

00:25:57.300 I think that was just going to happen.

00:26:00.080 I think that reform are basically the vehicle they're using.

00:26:02.140 This is Act 2, where the movie monsters are fighting it out between them

00:26:06.880 before the hero makes the entrance.

00:26:09.400 So this is absolutely reform's election.

00:26:12.580 They've done extremely well.

00:26:13.560 I believe reform have taken a seat off,

00:26:17.540 at least one seat off the Conservatives, Labour, Lib Dems and Greens.

00:26:21.820 They've taken a seat off everybody.

00:26:23.880 So it's entirely their election.

00:26:25.400 conservatives in a normal year that result would be a resigning matter for the conservative leader

00:26:32.140 oh yeah oh yeah i mean but luckily for kemi she's not in the headlines no kiss i mean this is this

00:26:39.660 is a brutal beating yeah for labor and just i mean look at the overall numbers at the moment yes

00:26:45.420 the conservatives are still ahead of the labor party which is unusual in the local elections

00:26:49.960 anyway yeah um this no one's going to be looking at the conservatives and saying you had a terrible

00:26:54.980 night because actually they expected worse yes they expected to be completely crushed the fact

00:27:00.440 they're still ahead of the lib dams the lib dems are having a great night so it's just like okay

00:27:05.120 interesting very interesting lib lib dems um again um i mean that you're right they are doing well

00:27:11.700 but well within the the third party status yes this is a tremendous result if your ambition is

00:27:20.320 to be third party yes but it has shown even in conditions like this even with the most perfect

00:27:25.400 setups condition conditions possible the lib dems are never going to become the main opposition they

00:27:31.040 they just can't that all they can do is third party that's a strong result for third party but

00:27:35.800 that's it right greens they are supposed to be emerging as the new second party in this paradigm

00:27:41.100 and it's all right i don't know if i were the greens i'd be kind of annoyed

00:27:46.900 like i would be expecting more out of this yeah but it's but again it's it's lib dem territory

00:27:51.520 it's it's all right for an emerging yeah second party third tier party but it's not but that is

00:27:57.180 not the the the narrative around the greens was zach polanski is uh soaring is surging oh yeah

00:28:04.560 like the wind is in their sails they're unstoppable he should have had hundreds

00:28:08.040 yeah and and he's got you know an all right result for the greens compared to where they have been

00:28:13.140 but what this tells me and especially as it's the inner cities that like you said are coming in

00:28:18.640 first yes in fact let me get a map here we go right so um as as you say um we've got a lot yeah

00:28:25.780 that's exactly what i'd expect yeah now i mean don't get me wrong there's a lot of london that's

00:28:29.220 left out and you know we've got some cities portsmouth but i mean that's pretty busy

00:28:33.300 birmingham hasn't come in yet so don't get me wrong and manchester and yeah so don't get me

00:28:37.920 wrong the greens are gonna see a lot more gains in the future um but this this hasn't been

00:28:44.380 uh like the surge that i was expecting from the greens i mean maybe maybe it changes when some

00:28:51.480 of those other constituency comes in but at the moment it's like i think it probably does i think

00:28:55.860 it's probably fair um but it's it's it's not the energy that we were expecting the social media

00:29:01.860 game and the own the sort of self-narrative of the greens yes hasn't actually been a self-fulfilling

00:29:07.500 profs well this brings me to my point can you just go go back one to the yeah yeah that one so so

00:29:12.760 this brings me to my point right is that actually the conservatives labor and lib dems they're

00:29:17.240 actually still in the game now one of them one of those four after reform are going to become the

00:29:24.320 left-wing vote it's probably not going to be the conservatives because you've already got a supposed

00:29:28.740 right-wing party so labor lib dems and the greens they're actually in contention so if i was put it

00:29:35.780 this way if i was andy burnham or angela rayner i'd be looking at it as thinking yeah who's going

00:29:42.160 to be the opposition to perform because that's the logic of the system yeah are do greens have

00:29:48.020 escape velocity and it's like if that was a rocket it's gone up gone fast enough but it's

00:29:55.200 probably going to come down in the ocean with a bang yep and that's exactly the way to look at

00:30:00.740 this i think yep um so uh let's let's get some individual highlights like wigan is a great one

00:30:06.560 uh where the the north is i think just using reform as a weapon against labor wigan has uh

00:30:15.000 labor have held wigan council but lost all of the 22 seats it was defending to reform so

00:30:20.060 uh as you can see there were you know there's however many like 70 seats on the council in

00:30:23.960 wigan uh and labor because they're not being contested cling on to the 42 they've got

00:30:29.180 yeah but the ones that they were contesting all went to reform wow all of them yeah wow now you

00:30:36.080 see reform have also taken off the conservatives and the independents there as well you have to

00:30:40.360 reformers should be careful about this right yes because i think your phrase that um the north are

00:30:45.120 using reform like a weapon against labor is true but they did that with boris yes the red wall and

00:30:51.900 they didn't stick with those tories did they you know so like there's there's a lot of memes going

00:30:55.680 around which is genuinely funny uh you know and i i'm i'm totally behind our northern uh friends

00:31:05.480 and countrymen in just use whatever tool is at hand to bludgeon the crap out of the traitorous

00:31:10.760 system that's betrayed us yes just use whatever is at hand but i think that they will pick up

00:31:15.380 another weapon when reformed is a point exactly and this is the thing that i mean i don't know

00:31:21.880 what farage and that is taking from this but um what the tories took from this is that they didn't

00:31:27.980 have to actually do what they promised to do in the north and so the tories aren't getting the

00:31:32.560 love that they might have i mean when boris i remember you know the famous picture of boris

00:31:37.200 going yeah after he took the north and like you know domic cummings in the background like you

00:31:41.200 know with his with his uh laptop and whatnot like that that felt like a genuine sea change in favor

00:31:46.580 of the conservatives it looked like oh my god boris has won the north they wrote they but they

00:31:50.240 completely misunderstood the moment and and there were traditional tories about it i'm like okay

00:31:55.540 well we're getting the knife now in the back sorry you know and so reform well they assumed

00:32:00.020 oh that means there are voters now yes we own them and that's the thing about the mog thing

00:32:04.820 where he's like no there's a reform vote and a tory vote yes and it's like no there's not and

00:32:08.900 and tories still think like that to this day and i know because every single time i finish a youtube

00:32:13.800 video i get rica popped up telling me either that yeah or that reform have got to somehow

00:32:22.200 keep the tories on life support for some reason why i can't yeah for some inexplicable reason

00:32:27.640 we need to keep the tories alive so i don't think we do actually um but the thing that reform i

00:32:32.600 think need to take from this is this doesn't necessarily signal devoted lifelong reform

00:32:39.520 voters no right and that's the important thing the i do think reform is being used as a weapon

00:32:45.140 against the enemies of the northern working class which again i totally support use whatever

00:32:50.780 whatever you've got to hand but don't mistake this for for love of farage and his conservatives

00:32:56.960 because all of the conservative defectors i mean i saw ze use have been like right the end's over

00:33:01.900 you can't now defect from the tories it's like yeah but why did you want to anyway we'll carry

00:33:07.060 reform took uh plymouth seat from the greens which is interesting yeah like quite a significant if

00:33:13.840 greens had had a good night that wouldn't have happened this isn't a labor area but you can see

00:33:17.680 the conservatives and the greens both took a hell of a whacking from reform there which is interesting

00:33:22.920 you know the greens yep should be on the ascent um and as you pointed out the greens only do well

00:33:30.520 if they've got students or muslims which oxford happens to have a lot of so the greens have done

00:33:35.180 quite well in oxford um which okay good that's you know good good start but you but you kind of

00:33:42.520 have to be either a young woman or a muslim to think what the greens are well the the muslims

00:33:49.020 know what the greens are proposing is good for them oh yeah the young women think that what the

00:33:53.720 greens are proposing are good for them but you need to have that level of either you know

00:33:57.520 secretarian self-interest or sheer naivety to vote for the greens yes you have to be a wide-eyed

00:34:03.200 bunny rabbit in the headlights yeah to vote for them i mean like this was i don't even know where

00:34:07.840 this was but good luck in the pakistani elections which are taking place across england today

00:34:30.300 correct under the banner of the green party uh again this would have been in one of those inner

00:34:35.460 city areas where there's lots of muslims or students and uh so they're literally putting

00:34:40.220 with government i mean here's a report from raja here who's at the count in oldham a reformer of

00:34:45.360 course doing well but the leader of the pakistani sectarian oldham group and his entourage have

00:34:49.720 just run out apparently someone smashed up his ferrari have we been explaining to you that the

00:34:58.200 the the um uh turkish barbers don't really ever seem to have customers in but they all have very

00:35:05.040 nice cars outside well we got we got a whole number of turkish barbers in um in in swindon

00:35:10.200 and i noticed the number of premium german autos outside almost always beats the number of customers

00:35:18.280 inside and i'm and i'm thinking and i would say i'm no economist but i am and it doesn't and it

00:35:23.960 doesn't make any sense to me how the economics of that adds up unless i start making extra

00:35:28.720 assumptions that the constabulary should be taking an interest in yes and this is just one of those

00:35:33.820 things where everything kind of lines up here perfectly yes so the white working class have

00:35:37.860 decided no we're just going to come out and vote for reform the uh the the the leaders of the um

00:35:43.840 illicit economy have turned up with their lovely things and i don't know what happened with his

00:35:48.680 ferrari that's a terrible shame the lovely cars they are ferraris they are beautiful yeah so you

00:35:53.640 know best of luck for that chap getting that repaired anyway so what conclusions can we draw

00:35:59.940 from this now this is um more in common director luke trill uh who i who shares basically uh many

00:36:06.640 of the conclusions i've come to but we'll just listen to him a second when you look at those

00:36:10.500 numbers what's going through your mind i think we're seeing the death of two-party politics in

00:36:16.060 real time um the conservatives and labor you know not even holding on to half of the seats

00:36:22.140 that they are contesting.

00:36:24.420 And I guess, you know, the way I'd sum it up is

00:36:26.720 what you're seeing from the electorate is a rebellion

00:36:29.540 against the status quo.

00:36:30.920 We've been doing focus groups right around the country

00:36:33.400 in the run-up to these elections.

00:36:34.860 Very different areas, voters going in very different directions.

00:36:38.120 The one thing they have in common is they say,

00:36:41.080 we're not happy with the status quo.

00:36:42.880 It's not working for us.

00:36:44.160 We want something different.

00:36:45.860 We have the Tories. That didn't work.

00:36:48.100 We've had two years of Labour.

00:36:49.660 We're not happy with that.

00:36:51.100 We want something new.

00:36:52.140 and it is very early day and that literally is the response that the conclusions i've come to

00:36:57.500 as well yeah i mean so it's it's true and he he didn't say anything wrong there but as i mentioned

00:37:03.420 a lot of the mainstream commentators are listening to analysis like that and saying oh that means

00:37:08.300 first pass the post is going to go no it's not it it just means that we're playing a game musical

00:37:13.180 chairs there were two chairs or two and a half chairs and we've got five or six people running

00:37:17.980 around the outside it's going to shake out yes that's what's going to happen and i think and

00:37:23.080 again the point i was making of don't mistake this as die hard loyalty to reform no because i don't

00:37:29.360 think this is like like he says there look this is a revolt against the status quo and the more

00:37:34.100 like the status quo you seem going into the future the less appealing i think you will remain

00:37:41.140 so as in in two years time if the party looks like a status quo party it may well be that

00:37:47.960 the people like well that's that's not actually what i'm looking for yeah reform should understand

00:37:51.980 that these votes are easy come easy go yeah so there are some interesting events that have come

00:37:57.300 out of this already uh for example the conservatives have gained westminster city council yes which was

00:38:02.980 uh labor for a long time obviously and that's again okay well that's some positive news for

00:38:09.120 the tory in a long time since the conservatives had westminster but i mean it just goes to show

00:38:13.540 when you when you when you squish out to you know from two and a half party system to a six party

00:38:19.280 system actually you can you could have a beating like the conservatives and yet still winning

00:38:24.320 places yeah everything is so smeared out yeah so people like yeah we're going to tear down those

00:38:28.620 banksy statues this is the colston statue being torn down in bristol obviously um but nobody

00:38:35.620 expected it to happen that's the thing yeah uh nobody none of the pollsters saw this coming

00:38:41.100 because like you said the the the political environment is so shattered it's actually

00:38:45.740 very difficult to make any kind of predictions on this yes because you just don't know this is the

00:38:52.160 one council in the country where they raise more from parking fines than they do for taxation

00:38:57.380 oh probably yeah they're no no doubt whatsoever millions um so this this is a like london is

00:39:03.600 actually quite an interesting place and it's actually all in play uh connor had an excellent

00:39:08.340 post here about um bexley uh conservatives have held most of bexley and out of london borough

00:39:13.640 that reform were hoping to flip ahead of the london mayoral elections in 2028 reform game

00:39:18.240 from labor in belvedere and northumberland heath and from the conservatives in craven and west

00:39:22.900 heath i grew up here both both bexley heath and sid cup high streets have declined in the last

00:39:27.440 five years the residents hate sadiq khan don't want any hmos and cut eula's cameras down so

00:39:32.600 often they've stopped putting them up reform didn't win here because their ground game was

00:39:36.040 week i received one leaflet posted in an envelope from central office even the greens were door

00:39:41.000 knocking and they don't have a hope in hell here i spoke to the guy manning the reform saw in

00:39:44.840 bexney heath high street nice enough but no enthusiasm uh maybe he was demoralized by tales

00:39:49.080 of infighting i've heard in the local branch leading up to election day lalia cunningham led

00:39:52.840 an eclectic group troop of multicultural canvases to deliver leaflets shoppers yeah i saw the uh

00:39:58.440 i mean literally they were shouting in indian uh vote reform they were literally shouting it in

00:40:04.040 indian so okie doke yeah um but bexley residents moved to their kent border to get away from london

00:40:09.720 and it's alienating demographics they barely like bordering erith abbey wood and thames mead as it is

00:40:14.600 many don't want to be a part of the greater london authority put plainly they want local english

00:40:18.680 candidates that's why the tories won the campaign materials were here's local english man and woman

00:40:23.640 vote for us keep parks clean and stop migrants moving in that and the fact that local mp lewis

00:40:28.600 french is well liked and things haven't gotten too bad here yet so some older residents don't

00:40:32.360 notice what's going on across the country i'm not saying the conservatives fare better in the

00:40:36.140 london moral race but reform is standing the wrong candidate and he has the wrong strategy for this

00:40:40.160 area cunningham just isn't who most bexley residents so i mean a couple of points there on

00:40:43.960 on the point of bexley itself bexley bromley it's it's one of those areas which is if you want to

00:40:50.200 get out of london but you can't because you still you still work in london you need to be able to get

00:40:54.880 a black cab into london you need to be able to get into the office relative you move to bexley

00:40:58.340 bromley somewhere like that so it's people who are in there are londoners but they don't want to be

00:41:03.340 this is the profile of a seat that reform should absolutely smash and what conor is pointing out

00:41:09.860 here is actually you've got to do the work yeah and it goes so much to your thing you keep pushing

00:41:16.500 this you know you keep doing the work in swindon you keep talking about setting up your local

00:41:21.020 restore branches around the country get people involved turn up and you might feel like a really

00:41:26.660 small cog in the machine but actually you've got to go out and leaflet half a dozen streets two

00:41:32.660 dozen five dozen streets whatever it is taken for granted and if you do the work it makes a

00:41:38.120 difference if you don't do the work you won't win so it just completely validates everything that

00:41:43.680 you've been doing lately with restore and also um representation really matters as connor points out

00:41:49.080 they just ran normal english people and said we're just gonna keep the place half decent

00:41:53.920 and Conservative win.

00:41:57.020 Compare that to Reform's Boris wavers.

00:41:59.960 So the Boris waver candidates lost in Southampton.

00:42:02.600 Nigerian Toriola Koka and Zimbabwean national

00:42:05.760 Trichaeus Chitsika failed to win their council seats.

00:42:09.740 Shocking.

00:42:10.620 It's funny, actually, right?

00:42:12.440 It's really, really funny

00:42:13.380 because you can actually look at the people involved.

00:42:16.580 So Trolliola Isaiah Koka here got 400 votes

00:42:20.720 versus the Greens.

00:42:23.420 misty calanthia delamoth burgess some norman aristocrat posh girl misty chlamydia baguette

00:42:32.180 absolutely destroyed that is the most green name i've ever heard yet exactly imagine how wide-eyed

00:42:41.000 and doe-eyed and you know like literally misty-eyed like she must be to trounce him nearly

00:42:47.040 three to one and okay yeah like sorry what are we doing here so all that time we spent making fun

00:42:56.040 of reform for for their for their candidates as usual we were doing them a favor yes and as usual

00:43:04.340 nigel frage came out and attacked us oh i don't like these attacks on our can yeah because they're

00:43:09.120 losing candidates and we tried to tell you is and you double down on it you pratt here's

00:43:14.480 tricaceous chit seeker uh who lost to phil webb

00:43:19.780 ladies and gentlemen your based nationalist party or at least pretending to be uh fielded

00:43:31.300 treacle chit slapper and was beaten by phil webb and david fuller like again the most normie

00:43:39.320 english names possible completely trounced the reform candidate but how predictable yeah we

00:43:45.400 told you not to why could you not see this nigel roger how how how have you been what you must have

00:43:52.380 been so soaked in post-war liberal ideology for 50 60 years you literally cannot see reality at

00:43:59.580 this point yeah i mean people would rather vote for the posh girl with four ridiculous names

00:44:04.760 one of which is chlamydia than for someone from who's literally from zimbabwe and you and you

00:44:10.880 give them phil webb and they're like yep yeah fine well i don't i don't care what party he's in

00:44:14.520 i'm voting for phil webb again the the same thing happened in uh portsmouth when they put up again

00:44:20.360 the literal boris waver on a student visa uh he lost two uh mo adi mo as a dazzerman right and

00:44:28.640 thing is i know portsmouth you should absolutely crush it in portsmouth yeah i know good god i

00:44:36.420 mean portsmouth is a weird weird place in many ways i mean for a start the average pompeian has

00:44:42.360 a greater linear frontage of motorcar than they do of house so that's why the lib dems want it

00:44:46.560 yes so parking is almost impossible in portsmouth but the other thing about portsmouth right is

00:44:50.940 because they're so squished in and it's such like a little microcosm they don't really have common

00:44:55.700 people and posh people they're just like this mongrel people these kind of merged into one

00:45:00.320 and they all live right next to each other and it's it's not obvious what's what right but what

00:45:05.800 they are is a hundred percent common sense englishmen well apart from the ones who aren't

00:45:10.660 english right so i spent a lot of time there because when we had covid going on winchester

00:45:15.460 was bloody insufferable whereas in portsmouth they're like yeah we're not doing this shit

00:45:19.460 yeah these people see through it so i'm surprised that reform did not do stronger there but maybe

00:45:24.820 it's just a candidate thing it must be because i mean literally this is the central south sea ward

00:45:29.380 adi as a duzerman reform got 661 votes uh beating the conservatives don't get me wrong

00:45:37.140 but um losing to labor and the greens but primarily losing to kate dorrington the most

00:45:44.780 english name we've heard so far she sounds like a pirates of the caribbean character yes like come

00:45:49.500 on and he she absolutely again from a three to one ratio crushed you she sounds like she runs

00:45:55.200 a tea shop yes yes she does a lovely little english cafe um so yeah and but this this is

00:46:03.560 enough to uh make sure that lib dems hold the council uh look the thing is right reform in

00:46:09.220 total 2 000 votes like on this one like just like it's everywhere it's if you if you look at the at

00:46:14.920 the wards where reform ran an englishman they did quite well they won them yeah i think i think it

00:46:22.720 might have been on the previous tab actually though yeah there you go if you click into that

00:46:26.620 second bit yeah so so look um reform did win in portsmouth for sam copeland with carl with oh

00:46:35.880 that one's a bit funny um lamentable louise fudge mara louise fudge again like that's english then

00:46:41.940 yeah russell peter william simpson i mean he was taking no chances he gave us four english names

00:46:48.720 and of course he won joe yeah who didn't win oh um zikazawi or whatever i'm you know i mean in the

00:46:58.240 lib dems defense here abdul kadir did win uh for the lib dems in that oh they got one they got one

00:47:03.900 i mean but even put but yeah that's but there's quite a lot to suggest that this was not a good

00:47:08.880 idea uh anyway right so uh so far no gains at all for labor so they didn't win anything

00:47:16.000 uh they managed to defend even the conservatives won a whole council yeah they didn't win anything

00:47:22.520 they defended a few things labor haven't won a single seat let alone again what gained a single

00:47:29.240 seat they've retained some yeah um absolute bloodbath for labor absolutely i mean this

00:47:35.880 couldn't have been more brutal uh really and again going back they defended about 55 percent

00:47:42.360 but they lost about 45 percent and they won nothing so yeah it's hard to get worse than

00:47:49.020 that really i mean yeah i mean it genuinely is uh we go to the labor live reaction from a senior

00:47:55.940 labor source i'm not going to read it out because it's just it's beep beep uh he he has basically

00:48:03.540 said everything that we've said this this show except in a slightly more concise form yes yes

00:48:08.620 um a senior labor source effing effed for those who are listening yeah it's it it just couldn't

00:48:14.440 be worse yes uh and as the bbc uh pointed out there's oh they've changed the bloody thing i

00:48:20.360 thought i'd link to it um starmer kept coming up on the doorstep right starmer kept um coming up

00:48:26.440 uh over and over and over where people like no i just hate keir starmer um i don't want to vote

00:48:31.400 for him and or his party which is not a great surprise because we everyone's well aware of how

00:48:38.200 the public bet that's not the word the actual words they used on the doorstep probably not

00:48:42.080 word for word yeah um but uh so anyway ed milliband has privately told kistarman now you should

00:48:47.600 really set out the timeline for your resume that's a reasonably big intervention he's a former leader

00:48:52.520 yeah he's well respected in the party uh probably won't be him because he's already had a go and

00:48:57.580 he's failed but that is that really that's a big as an intervention as you can get in the Labour

00:49:03.980 Party I don't think there's anyone else who really ranks above him on the oh if they're saying yeah

00:49:09.460 grandees it's him or David Lammy really so it's him then yeah it's him yeah like but but the point

00:49:16.660 is Ed Miliband is as you say like you know a genuine influence in the parliamentary Labour

00:49:22.400 party at the moment and apparently has uh told skier look you you've you've got to you've got

00:49:27.180 to get out of here but yeah you think destroying us uh what do you think kia starmer's response

00:49:32.020 has been um a thousand years of of starmer managerial decline ahead that's exactly it

00:49:40.040 oh really oh right there we go right i'm not going to walk away and plunge the country into chaos

00:49:46.020 we were elected to deal with these challenges and that's what we will do has ed milliband asked you

00:49:52.160 set out a timetable for your departure? Well I think Ed Miliband has dealt with

00:49:56.720 this and made absolutely clear that he supports me. What do you say to those in

00:50:00.740 your party that are really upset with you, they don't think you're getting it

00:50:04.940 and they're calling for your resignation, what do you say to Woodbury

00:50:07.920 Challengers and the party? What's your message? I think it's very important that

00:50:12.500 we don't sugarcoat these results so I'm not going to do that. They are tough

00:50:16.940 results i accept that they reflect voters who don't feel that their lives have changed enough

00:50:27.460 or quickly enough and that's been going on for a long time we were elected to deal with that

00:50:31.920 and i'm not going to walk away from that responsibility and plunge the country into

00:50:36.940 chaos you already have mate amazing isn't it well and by the way for 40k fans we are living in the

00:50:43.700 40k timeline that man is a psychic blank he has no he has no soul he has no personality no soul

00:50:52.180 it's so kind of hard to insult him because no no no no hang on what are you what are you talking

00:51:02.020 about like i mean like for example like the burnside is great this is a great tweet the

00:51:07.720 british people are sending us a message we're listening they want us to go further and faster

00:51:11.360 which is why we're rolling out breakfast clubs to workplaces,

00:51:14.080 speeding up asylum approvals, building more mosques than ever.

00:51:17.000 I mean, that's literally the message that Keir Starmer is putting out here.

00:51:20.880 I'm going to be here.

00:51:21.760 I mean, he literally said the other day,

00:51:22.940 I'm going to be here until 2029.

00:51:24.760 I'm going to fight it out.

00:51:26.840 And people are just like, hang on a second.

00:51:29.020 What are you talking about?

00:51:30.040 No, I will not be standing down.

00:51:31.160 This only strength is my resolve to deliver,

00:51:32.820 which is why we push a nation-wide breakfast club

00:51:34.680 so people finally feel the change that Labour was elected to deliver.

00:51:39.180 I mean, it's just a parody.

00:51:41.360 at this point like you can imagine me in private just saying don't the british people understand

00:51:45.720 there is so much more decline to manage genuinely yes that is exactly what is happening with the

00:52:01.860 labor party now bad luck if you support labor or you're a member of the labor party something like

00:52:07.960 that right however as maven points out if you're on the right this is good news defeats britain's

00:52:15.440 first bane pm to get elected mass arrests of left-wing radicals wanting to stop the gaza

00:52:19.340 genocide cut migration by over two-thirds which is true by the way uh pass legislation to make

00:52:23.840 it harder to get citizenship strengthen the new left-wing party ran by a literal retard

00:52:27.100 um and i've said this about the greens they're they're a total cul-de-sac their upper limit is

00:52:32.080 about 20 at best and they're never going any further than that so you don't and that's why

00:52:36.260 i'm quite happy for them to become the new second party oh god please you know please i want zach

00:52:41.780 polanski in everyone's faces every day because the more exposure yeah exactly exactly the more

00:52:47.720 exposure you have to zach polanski's ugly mug the more people are like i'm just sick of him just

00:52:52.440 sick of him you know so uh i think i know what i'm going to tweet after this it's something along

00:52:57.140 the lines of imagine you are keir starmer and you've just won the general election right and

00:53:03.100 your mission is to get to here in only two years do you genuinely think that if you were trying to

00:53:10.880 sabotage the labor party you could have done as good a job as him well i i let me finish this

00:53:17.600 quickly you know don't do a single thing your voters want to do destroy the labor party electorally

00:53:21.400 give the new right-wing party the best results ever say i take responsibility and this strengthens

00:53:25.700 my resolve yeah if keir starmer was a sleeper agent designed to destroy the labor party what

00:53:31.280 would he do exactly i don't think with all of my political acumen and the genuine desire to

00:53:38.220 destroy the labor party i could have outperformed him you couldn't have made your hatred if you

00:53:44.960 had assembled all of the right-wing commentators you got the best of the best and you sat and we

00:53:50.720 were going to secretly pull the strings of kia starmer we couldn't have we couldn't have done

00:53:55.680 better than this no he's he's done a great job for us um so thank you mr starmer please hang on

00:54:02.540 until 2029 i want the labor party completely destroyed and then take over running the green

00:54:07.120 party if possible well and then jump ship to the tories mate you know anyway so that's that's uh

00:54:15.820 that's honestly all good stuff i'm happy i'm very happy with this set of elections

00:54:21.160 And so people are like, well, okay, what's happening in Great Yarmouth?

00:54:23.860 Now, we don't know, is the answer, because the count began apparently 11 p.m. today.

00:54:29.500 So it's still going on as we are talking.

00:54:32.820 So we're not going to get those results.

00:54:33.700 By the time the video goes up, we might know.

00:54:37.020 Yeah, at the time of recording, we don't know.

00:54:39.620 But lots of our guys were down there.

00:54:43.620 Rupert Lowe was out campaigning all day.

00:54:45.300 uh literally uh 350 was the estimate from uh i think it was sky news on new statesman or someone

00:54:51.560 like that uh activists had descended on great yarmouth and uh we've had lots again our you

00:54:57.180 know josh and bo and that were down there and they were just like yeah there were the great

00:55:01.280 yarmouth first signs everywhere that everyone about half the people we spoke to were just like

00:55:05.680 yeah definitely voting for they did the work they they did they did the work and so it looks like

00:55:12.100 well I mean Rupert wants

00:55:14.600 there are 10 seats up for grabs

00:55:16.380 and Rupert wants to win them all and it looks like they might

00:55:19.220 so again I'm not like one of those

00:55:21.220 fingers crossed for that one then

00:55:23.240 fingers crossed but let's

00:55:25.120 juxtapose that with Farage's prediction

00:55:27.120 the party isn't even

00:55:29.160 registered he won't be on 1%

00:55:31.080 anywhere not even probably in

00:55:33.060 Great Yarmouth thank you

00:55:34.440 yeah

00:55:37.360 push extra doubt

00:55:38.140 look at Danny Kruger's face

00:55:39.960 yep

00:55:42.100 he's laughing because he doesn't go on sentiment yeah he he actually thinks about this stuff he's

00:55:48.100 a smart guy yes you know you might not agree with him but on a personal level i do quite like him

00:55:52.820 and he's a smart guy and he knows that this is not correct he's not going to be on one percent

00:55:58.340 in great yarmouth and everyone laughing ha ha ha well i mean just before we came on air nigel

00:56:06.420 roger put out another tweet which he said the best is yet to come it's true and in the context

00:56:11.560 of restore i think he's right so anyway excellent uh entertainment frankly from the right uh from

00:56:19.860 these local elections as i said the results are still coming in and so the thing to look out for

00:56:23.680 now is what um the actual final result is in comparison to the predictions now if if this is

00:56:31.640 sort of like a mean prediction uh for reform and the upper limit is the upper end of predictions

00:56:36.840 is somewhere about a thousand eight hundred and fifty and the lower limit is somewhere around a

00:56:41.240 thousand three hundred uh if they end up with around a thousand three hundred then actually

00:56:46.760 that's them underperforming if they end up with around a thousand sort of seven hundred then

00:56:52.920 that's overperforming so the that's the thing to i think really take away from this when all the

00:56:58.100 results are finally in when given the scale of the labor collapse it'd be difficult for them

00:57:01.620 not to hit hit target well yeah but think about like like these are the average of the prediction

00:57:08.320 so far yes green 656 lib dems 152 well that's not what we saw and in the results coming in

00:57:14.960 actually the lib dems are far outpacing the greens so the lib dems are actually completely

00:57:21.700 overtaking the greens when it comes to what the actual prediction was so i mean the lib dems plus

00:57:27.780 and actually if you think about it the lib dems they they kind of they're kind of um the same

00:57:33.620 type of animal they feel the same environmental niche which is to say um you know we don't want

00:57:39.660 any of the establishment options um but we're not we don't really know who you want to vote for

00:57:45.520 yeah the the greens have the kind of sheen of craziness around them yeah but most people don't

00:57:51.600 know that yeah i think there's a i think there's a sense of it i think there is a you know a sense

00:57:56.400 of you know i don't know about them um so i think that the lib dems are going to overperform here

00:58:01.680 the greens are going to underperform i suspect that reform will probably get 1 400 is my sense

00:58:08.120 of it um they're doing well but i don't think they're going to smash it probably the over

00:58:13.520 performer is going to be the conservatives yeah and by that i mean just not lose as many seats

00:58:18.240 exactly they're not going to lose as much as people expected them to lose um but anyway so

00:58:22.400 But yeah, the local elections in Britain are normally not very exciting, but these ones

00:58:26.380 have been great, and we look forward to the final tally.

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - May 08, 2026

It's an Absolute Bloodbath

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