The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - March 03, 2026


Lotus Eaters React to The Stonewall Myth - Coming Out 06⧸03


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In this episode, we take a deep dive into the multi-billion pound industry that is Stonewall, the gay pride movement, and the influence it exerts on our government, the media, and society at large. This is by no means an exhaustive look into the swamp of queer charities, foundations, pressure groups, and other NGOs that push divisive and dishonest ideologies in our schools and workplaces, but this is barely scratching the surface of this industry returning to the 1960s.

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00:00:00.000 outside of our schools stonewall has influence on our government by the early 2000s stonewall
00:00:12.400 had launched their diversity champion scheme which is an opt-in paid scheme where employers
00:00:17.680 are assessed for their queer inclusivity in 2021 there was a controversy about the influence that
00:00:23.600 stonewall had on the bbc and other institutions resulting in the bbc pulling out of the scheme
00:00:29.040 by which time who knows how much taxpayer money had been spent thankfully though the bbc now is
00:00:35.760 completely free of diverse woke nonsense however in 2022 a freedom of information act request sought
00:00:43.920 to find out if the foreign commonwealth and development office the foreign affairs ministry
00:00:48.880 of the uk government had been funding stonewall yes they were their response confirmed that the
00:00:54.080 ministry for some reason these are the foreign affair ministries by the way had joined the
00:00:59.360 diversity champion scheme in 2018 and paid an annual cost of 2500 pounds for the privilege they'd also
00:01:06.400 spent 598 pounds with vat to attend stonewall's 2019 and 2020 london workplace conferences in the course
00:01:14.960 of just over 30 years the british government had gone from legislating papers that banned queer ideology
00:01:20.640 in schools to financially partnering with the main promoter of queer ideology you may ask yourself
00:01:27.760 how does partnering with stonewall help you conduct foreign affairs they have no answer to this well they 1.00
00:01:34.480 they do help you conduct foreign affairs if your objective is to turn the entire world into something 0.61
00:01:39.920 fake and gay that's why they were financing stonewall because part of the agenda has been to spread this 1.00
00:01:46.560 around the world and you even see it in the middle east with the american embassy um raising the gay 0.95
00:01:53.040 pride flag in countries like iraq and the uae and so on and wanting to do the same for saudi arabia i think
00:01:59.440 it was the ceo of netflix he is on record saying that he met with saudi crown prince muhammad bin salman
00:02:07.520 and agreed with him that saudi arabia would allow netflix to broadcast queer content in exchange for
00:02:15.760 netflix removing content that was critical of muhammad bin salman so this has been a constant part of
00:02:23.280 what they try to do and this is by no means an exhaustive look into the swamp of queer charities 1.00
00:02:28.400 foundations pressure groups and other ngos that all push for divisive and dishonest ideologies to be taught
00:02:34.800 in our schools and workplaces in fact this is barely scratching the surface of this multi-billion
00:02:42.080 pound industry returning to the 1960s however the treatment that you could expect in the psychiatric
00:02:49.840 ward you landed in was pretty awful california's atascadero state hospital was so notorious that
00:02:56.080 it became known as dachau for queers to be evaluated and held for treatment indefinitely while they 1.00
00:03:03.600 were still awaiting judgment patients were diagnosed with psychopathic personality disorder with
00:03:08.480 pathologic sexuality by this time the treatment for pathologies had moved away from lobotomies at
00:03:13.840 least but the alternatives were much prettier at atascadero you could expect electroshock therapy
00:03:19.360 insulin shock therapy and aversion therapy electroshock is exactly what it sounds like insulin shock
00:03:25.600 involved administering a series of insulin shots to the patient that rendered him in a coma for an
00:03:30.960 indefinite period of time this coma was supposed to heal your mind and cure you of sexually deviant
00:03:38.320 urges aversion therapy though so they did this to the gays did they aversion therapy involved 0.76
00:03:44.320 administering nausea and vomit inducing drugs like apomorphine while being subject to particular visual
00:03:50.960 and physical stimuli the intention was to replicate this nauseous effect when encountering these stimuli out
00:03:56.960 in the world therefore deterring the patient from seeking or engaging in the negative behaviors they
00:04:02.560 were being treated for it's literally like clockwork orange so they basically clockwork oranged people 1.00
00:04:10.640 wow i didn't know that i mean i've heard of things like ect being used for depression and it was a
00:04:18.080 different time in medicine but this is pretty dark and in one hospital in chester in the uk there are awful
00:04:24.720 stories of patients being confined to a single room and subjected to these drugs ending up covered
00:04:30.560 in their own vomit and faeces for days supposedly a three-day course of this could feel like years 0.62
00:04:38.880 jesus
00:04:43.440 oh god okay again mixed feelings on this one because yeah obviously that's a bit rough but i get those
00:04:49.600 feelings of nausea when i see this stuff in fact i get feelings of nausea watching um most things on
00:04:56.560 netflix or the bbc today so yeah a bit rough but still i mean that stuff is obviously evil it's deeply
00:05:03.600 immoral but it's being used now to stop any kind of talking conversion therapy which is intended to
00:05:10.560 help you understand morality better understand your purpose in life better and therefore stop you from
00:05:16.480 engaging in deviancy for those unaware and i'm very sorry to break this to you cruising is when gay 1.00
00:05:24.240 men go to a public space and hang around waiting for signals from other gay men but they're available 0.92
00:05:29.600 for sex i thought it was something the over 50s did with their grandchildren's inheritance they then find
00:05:34.960 somewhere private to do the deed this could be a hotel or an apartment but due to safety concerns more
00:05:41.920 often than not they would choose a bush in a park greenwich village where the stonewall still exists
00:05:49.600 to this day has its own park that was a very popular cruising spot but the police would send patrols
00:05:55.360 there to disperse the men who would gather happily the residents of greenwich had a backup though on the
00:06:01.520 banks of the hudson river were trucks that parked for the night after unloading their goods
00:06:07.840 whilst left unattended and unlocked the residents would hop in the back and unload goods of their
00:06:14.160 own oh i just got that pun oh no i don't like that and this wasn't just a single couple at a time
00:06:21.120 either men would pile in up to two or three hundred at a time and have an orgy
00:06:27.200 jesus yeah that's my mom really is it don't take my word for it take the words of somebody who was
00:06:35.360 there mal becker who david carter interviewed for the book describes the scene as such quote
00:06:42.320 there was no fence the trucks were back right up to the river and it was pitch dark in there
00:06:47.280 every now and then you could see somebody with a cigarette in the back of a truck there would
00:06:51.600 sometimes be two or three hundred people in them if we had our druthers we would have been happier
00:06:56.480 checking into a hotel like any other couple but that wasn't always an option for us there wasn't
00:07:01.440 any place for us to go if you didn't have an apartment or if you had roommates or what have
00:07:05.680 you the only option was to have sex in central park or the trucks or some out of the way place
00:07:11.040 where hopefully you didn't get caught and arrested it was like should i trust this person shouldn't i
00:07:16.480 trust this person you didn't know from one minute to the next what was going to happen so it was safer
00:07:21.680 to be with 200 people in the back of a truck unquote that's that's the real quote that's the
00:07:29.440 actual logic that's being put forward there okay why is harry making content about this i don't 0.52
00:07:35.840 understand how having sex with 200 people is safer in any way what a strange thing to say well if you 0.95
00:07:43.760 get in a truck with 300 gay men i mean you i think you can take it as read that nothing good is going to 0.99
00:07:49.520 happen isn't that exactly why this should be banned engaging in this kind of behavior leads to a 0.97
00:07:56.160 tolerance of disgust that is genuinely going to lead you to evil therefore rather than let you go down
00:08:05.760 the slippery slope and we're seeing the the bottom of the slippery slope now the right thing to do is
00:08:11.360 to say this is illegal disperse we won't tolerate this kind of thing stonewall inn was one of these
00:08:20.400 mafia controlled bars prior to its reopening on march 18th 1969 it had been a tea room in the 30s and a
00:08:28.560 restaurant in the 50s and 60s before a fire burned the place out ruined it and left it vacant for years
00:08:36.240 taking advantage of the opportunity to make piles of cash from the frustrated gaze of greenwich village
00:08:41.680 the super high-ranking mafioso bought the club and began a quick and haphazard renovation
00:08:46.880 this man was tony laurier literally known as fat tony yes he was called fat tony not that one from the
00:08:53.040 simpsons he did not go into business because he was an ally anything but his father almost disowned
00:08:59.360 him for running a quote bar unquote he was only ever in it for the money operating a legitimate
00:09:08.560 business like this came with its own risks so the profit margins had to be good enough to make it
00:09:13.840 worth it and they were on fridays and saturdays the stonewall was so popular that it regularly made
00:09:20.480 five to six thousand dollars per night easily recouping the measly sum fat tony and his buddies other
00:09:28.640 legitimate businessmen had invested in it and that small sum hadn't gone into making the stonewall a 0.70
00:09:35.280 classy joint far from it the stonewall judging by contemporary reports from its patrons was a
00:09:41.360 filthy dark death trap they hadn't fixed the fire damage at all that had shut it down originally
00:09:49.280 to hide the evidence of fire damage the venue had been painted black
00:09:52.880 black so the walls the ceiling and everything else was black i can only imagine this gave the stonewall 0.99
00:10:00.960 in a warm and inviting atmosphere dear god you do not want to go in there with a black light do you
00:10:09.440 before beginning my research for this video i was aware of marsha p johnson there are countless books
00:10:16.400 documentaries twitter posts and instagram reels celebrating marsha p is that a dude the black
00:10:22.960 drag queen who supposedly threw the first brick at stonewall that's just a dude no one's fooled by 0.99
00:10:29.360 that funnily enough marsha p johnson or as i will be calling him from now on malcolm michaels jr his real
00:10:36.560 name was not even at the stonewall inn when the riot first began instead he turned up after the violence
00:10:42.160 had started but for propaganda purposes it makes an effective story that positions malcolm as a folk
00:10:48.560 hero who like a modern robin hood stood up to oppression and set an example for us all i mean i
00:10:55.600 can kind of see where this is going but if that malcolm guy was was around today he'd probably be
00:11:00.400 having the lead role in starfleet academy or or some other rings of power or something if malcolm
00:11:06.880 is to be an example for the rest of us i think an honest evaluation of his character is called for
00:11:12.800 as a child malcolm had been raped by an older boy childhood trauma it's like almost every time when you
00:11:21.760 learn about these people isn't it after which he began to consider himself gay he moved to new york
00:11:26.800 in 1966 when he was around 19 to 20 years old and quickly found himself homeless on the streets where he
00:11:33.120 spent much of his time with other homeless youths while there are stories of his kindness and
00:11:39.520 supposedly gentle nature towards these friends there are just as many stories of his violent
00:11:45.200 and physical outbursts as well as unsurprisingly his mental instability for work you can guess where
00:11:52.480 this is going malcolm prostituted himself to men on the street and was arrested for that in the
00:11:58.400 romances over 100 times people paid for that how can someone be arrested 100 times and something not
00:12:07.680 be done more permanent to stop them it's almost like they sort of wanted this to happen a few of
00:12:14.400 these street johns almost killed him and as a result he suffered over eight nervous breakdowns throughout his 1.00
00:12:21.360 life as you might expect his mental health was unstable friends describe him as suffering from
00:12:28.240 a form of psychosis he described visions of the sky shining bright with 10 suns as the world ended
00:12:35.840 another friend of his described an incident where malcolm naked while they were both sunbathing
00:12:40.960 stole his clothes and threw them in the hudson river as a tribute to his father and the god neptune
00:12:48.560 this is a whole can of not good here while most knew him as marsha there were times when his
00:12:54.240 friends among the vagrants of greenwich village would call him by his real name malcolm was what
00:12:59.120 they called his dark and violent side jesus christ dear god what did i just watch well i'm traumatized 0.66
00:13:07.760 now malcolm was his real side malcolm was a violent degenerate prostitute why would that person be a hero i don't 0.95
00:13:16.720 i don't actually understand it 0.98