The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - March 03, 2026


Lotus Eaters React to The Stonewall Myth - Coming Out 06⧸03


Episode Stats

Length

13 minutes

Words per Minute

161.98158

Word Count

2,182

Sentence Count

1

Misogynist Sentences

1

Hate Speech Sentences

16


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 outside of our schools stonewall has influence on our government by the early 2000s stonewall
00:00:12.400 had launched their diversity champion scheme which is an opt-in paid scheme where employers
00:00:17.680 are assessed for their queer inclusivity in 2021 there was a controversy about the influence that
00:00:23.600 stonewall had on the bbc and other institutions resulting in the bbc pulling out of the scheme
00:00:29.040 by which time who knows how much taxpayer money had been spent thankfully though the bbc now is
00:00:35.760 completely free of diverse woke nonsense however in 2022 a freedom of information act request sought
00:00:43.920 to find out if the foreign commonwealth and development office the foreign affairs ministry
00:00:48.880 of the uk government had been funding stonewall yes they were their response confirmed that the
00:00:54.080 ministry for some reason these are the foreign affair ministries by the way had joined the
00:00:59.360 diversity champion scheme in 2018 and paid an annual cost of 2500 pounds for the privilege they'd also
00:01:06.400 spent 598 pounds with vat to attend stonewall's 2019 and 2020 london workplace conferences in the course
00:01:14.960 of just over 30 years the british government had gone from legislating papers that banned queer ideology
00:01:20.640 in schools to financially partnering with the main promoter of queer ideology you may ask yourself
00:01:27.760 how does partnering with stonewall help you conduct foreign affairs they have no answer to this well they
00:01:34.480 they do help you conduct foreign affairs if your objective is to turn the entire world into something
00:01:39.920 fake and gay that's why they were financing stonewall because part of the agenda has been to spread this
00:01:46.560 around the world and you even see it in the middle east with the american embassy um raising the gay
00:01:53.040 pride flag in countries like iraq and the uae and so on and wanting to do the same for saudi arabia i think
00:01:59.440 it was the ceo of netflix he is on record saying that he met with saudi crown prince muhammad bin salman
00:02:07.520 and agreed with him that saudi arabia would allow netflix to broadcast queer content in exchange for
00:02:15.760 netflix removing content that was critical of muhammad bin salman so this has been a constant part of
00:02:23.280 what they try to do and this is by no means an exhaustive look into the swamp of queer charities
00:02:28.400 foundations pressure groups and other ngos that all push for divisive and dishonest ideologies to be taught
00:02:34.800 in our schools and workplaces in fact this is barely scratching the surface of this multi-billion
00:02:42.080 pound industry returning to the 1960s however the treatment that you could expect in the psychiatric
00:02:49.840 ward you landed in was pretty awful california's atascadero state hospital was so notorious that
00:02:56.080 it became known as dachau for queers to be evaluated and held for treatment indefinitely while they
00:03:03.600 were still awaiting judgment patients were diagnosed with psychopathic personality disorder with
00:03:08.480 pathologic sexuality by this time the treatment for pathologies had moved away from lobotomies at
00:03:13.840 least but the alternatives were much prettier at atascadero you could expect electroshock therapy
00:03:19.360 insulin shock therapy and aversion therapy electroshock is exactly what it sounds like insulin shock
00:03:25.600 involved administering a series of insulin shots to the patient that rendered him in a coma for an
00:03:30.960 indefinite period of time this coma was supposed to heal your mind and cure you of sexually deviant
00:03:38.320 urges aversion therapy though so they did this to the gays did they aversion therapy involved
00:03:44.320 administering nausea and vomit inducing drugs like apomorphine while being subject to particular visual
00:03:50.960 and physical stimuli the intention was to replicate this nauseous effect when encountering these stimuli out
00:03:56.960 in the world therefore deterring the patient from seeking or engaging in the negative behaviors they
00:04:02.560 were being treated for it's literally like clockwork orange so they basically clockwork oranged people
00:04:10.640 wow i didn't know that i mean i've heard of things like ect being used for depression and it was a
00:04:18.080 different time in medicine but this is pretty dark and in one hospital in chester in the uk there are awful
00:04:24.720 stories of patients being confined to a single room and subjected to these drugs ending up covered
00:04:30.560 in their own vomit and faeces for days supposedly a three-day course of this could feel like years
00:04:38.880 jesus
00:04:43.440 oh god okay again mixed feelings on this one because yeah obviously that's a bit rough but i get those
00:04:49.600 feelings of nausea when i see this stuff in fact i get feelings of nausea watching um most things on
00:04:56.560 netflix or the bbc today so yeah a bit rough but still i mean that stuff is obviously evil it's deeply
00:05:03.600 immoral but it's being used now to stop any kind of talking conversion therapy which is intended to
00:05:10.560 help you understand morality better understand your purpose in life better and therefore stop you from
00:05:16.480 engaging in deviancy for those unaware and i'm very sorry to break this to you cruising is when gay
00:05:24.240 men go to a public space and hang around waiting for signals from other gay men but they're available
00:05:29.600 for sex i thought it was something the over 50s did with their grandchildren's inheritance they then find
00:05:34.960 somewhere private to do the deed this could be a hotel or an apartment but due to safety concerns more
00:05:41.920 often than not they would choose a bush in a park greenwich village where the stonewall still exists
00:05:49.600 to this day has its own park that was a very popular cruising spot but the police would send patrols
00:05:55.360 there to disperse the men who would gather happily the residents of greenwich had a backup though on the
00:06:01.520 banks of the hudson river were trucks that parked for the night after unloading their goods
00:06:07.840 whilst left unattended and unlocked the residents would hop in the back and unload goods of their
00:06:14.160 own oh i just got that pun oh no i don't like that and this wasn't just a single couple at a time
00:06:21.120 either men would pile in up to two or three hundred at a time and have an orgy
00:06:27.200 jesus yeah that's my mom really is it don't take my word for it take the words of somebody who was
00:06:35.360 there mal becker who david carter interviewed for the book describes the scene as such quote
00:06:42.320 there was no fence the trucks were back right up to the river and it was pitch dark in there
00:06:47.280 every now and then you could see somebody with a cigarette in the back of a truck there would
00:06:51.600 sometimes be two or three hundred people in them if we had our druthers we would have been happier
00:06:56.480 checking into a hotel like any other couple but that wasn't always an option for us there wasn't
00:07:01.440 any place for us to go if you didn't have an apartment or if you had roommates or what have
00:07:05.680 you the only option was to have sex in central park or the trucks or some out of the way place
00:07:11.040 where hopefully you didn't get caught and arrested it was like should i trust this person shouldn't i
00:07:16.480 trust this person you didn't know from one minute to the next what was going to happen so it was safer
00:07:21.680 to be with 200 people in the back of a truck unquote that's that's the real quote that's the
00:07:29.440 actual logic that's being put forward there okay why is harry making content about this i don't
00:07:35.840 understand how having sex with 200 people is safer in any way what a strange thing to say well if you
00:07:43.760 get in a truck with 300 gay men i mean you i think you can take it as read that nothing good is going to
00:07:49.520 happen isn't that exactly why this should be banned engaging in this kind of behavior leads to a
00:07:56.160 tolerance of disgust that is genuinely going to lead you to evil therefore rather than let you go down
00:08:05.760 the slippery slope and we're seeing the the bottom of the slippery slope now the right thing to do is
00:08:11.360 to say this is illegal disperse we won't tolerate this kind of thing stonewall inn was one of these
00:08:20.400 mafia controlled bars prior to its reopening on march 18th 1969 it had been a tea room in the 30s and a
00:08:28.560 restaurant in the 50s and 60s before a fire burned the place out ruined it and left it vacant for years
00:08:36.240 taking advantage of the opportunity to make piles of cash from the frustrated gaze of greenwich village
00:08:41.680 the super high-ranking mafioso bought the club and began a quick and haphazard renovation
00:08:46.880 this man was tony laurier literally known as fat tony yes he was called fat tony not that one from the
00:08:53.040 simpsons he did not go into business because he was an ally anything but his father almost disowned
00:08:59.360 him for running a quote bar unquote he was only ever in it for the money operating a legitimate
00:09:08.560 business like this came with its own risks so the profit margins had to be good enough to make it
00:09:13.840 worth it and they were on fridays and saturdays the stonewall was so popular that it regularly made
00:09:20.480 five to six thousand dollars per night easily recouping the measly sum fat tony and his buddies other
00:09:28.640 legitimate businessmen had invested in it and that small sum hadn't gone into making the stonewall a
00:09:35.280 classy joint far from it the stonewall judging by contemporary reports from its patrons was a
00:09:41.360 filthy dark death trap they hadn't fixed the fire damage at all that had shut it down originally
00:09:49.280 to hide the evidence of fire damage the venue had been painted black
00:09:52.880 black so the walls the ceiling and everything else was black i can only imagine this gave the stonewall
00:10:00.960 in a warm and inviting atmosphere dear god you do not want to go in there with a black light do you
00:10:09.440 before beginning my research for this video i was aware of marsha p johnson there are countless books
00:10:16.400 documentaries twitter posts and instagram reels celebrating marsha p is that a dude the black
00:10:22.960 drag queen who supposedly threw the first brick at stonewall that's just a dude no one's fooled by
00:10:29.360 that funnily enough marsha p johnson or as i will be calling him from now on malcolm michaels jr his real
00:10:36.560 name was not even at the stonewall inn when the riot first began instead he turned up after the violence
00:10:42.160 had started but for propaganda purposes it makes an effective story that positions malcolm as a folk
00:10:48.560 hero who like a modern robin hood stood up to oppression and set an example for us all i mean i
00:10:55.600 can kind of see where this is going but if that malcolm guy was was around today he'd probably be
00:11:00.400 having the lead role in starfleet academy or or some other rings of power or something if malcolm
00:11:06.880 is to be an example for the rest of us i think an honest evaluation of his character is called for
00:11:12.800 as a child malcolm had been raped by an older boy childhood trauma it's like almost every time when you
00:11:21.760 learn about these people isn't it after which he began to consider himself gay he moved to new york
00:11:26.800 in 1966 when he was around 19 to 20 years old and quickly found himself homeless on the streets where he
00:11:33.120 spent much of his time with other homeless youths while there are stories of his kindness and
00:11:39.520 supposedly gentle nature towards these friends there are just as many stories of his violent
00:11:45.200 and physical outbursts as well as unsurprisingly his mental instability for work you can guess where
00:11:52.480 this is going malcolm prostituted himself to men on the street and was arrested for that in the
00:11:58.400 romances over 100 times people paid for that how can someone be arrested 100 times and something not
00:12:07.680 be done more permanent to stop them it's almost like they sort of wanted this to happen a few of
00:12:14.400 these street johns almost killed him and as a result he suffered over eight nervous breakdowns throughout his
00:12:21.360 life as you might expect his mental health was unstable friends describe him as suffering from
00:12:28.240 a form of psychosis he described visions of the sky shining bright with 10 suns as the world ended
00:12:35.840 another friend of his described an incident where malcolm naked while they were both sunbathing
00:12:40.960 stole his clothes and threw them in the hudson river as a tribute to his father and the god neptune
00:12:48.560 this is a whole can of not good here while most knew him as marsha there were times when his
00:12:54.240 friends among the vagrants of greenwich village would call him by his real name malcolm was what
00:12:59.120 they called his dark and violent side jesus christ dear god what did i just watch well i'm traumatized
00:13:07.760 now malcolm was his real side malcolm was a violent degenerate prostitute why would that person be a hero i don't
00:13:16.720 i don't actually understand it