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Summary
The Lotus Eaters are back, joined by Callum Barker and Firas, to discuss the growing problem of Afghan immigration in the UK, and whether the government can do anything about it. Also, there's an announcement about the grooming gang transcripts.
Transcript
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Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for the 11th of December 2025, almost Christmas.
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I hope you've done your shopping. I've still got something to do. I'm stressed.
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So this is podcast 1315 and I'm joined by Firas, Callum Barker, very pleased to have you.
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Probably for the best. Please don't look at me.
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There is a rather cheery roundtable about the grooming gang transcripts at three o'clock today.
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So that's half an hour after the live podcast is over.
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And so if you want to hear about that, I hear it's going to be quite dark, but very revealing.
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I'm going to be talking about Britain's horrifying problem with Afghan immigration.
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Then someone is going to be talking about whether Britain can fight back.
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And then I think, Harry, you're talking about whether the truth is hidden from you.
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This is why we've got Callum on for comic relief.
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And we'll giggle some smiles and Zelensky impressions.
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We've not got Jack on for his Trump impressions.
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Dynamic doesn't really work, man, if there's only one of us, isn't it?
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Josh can do like a, what was it, a young Salazar impression for you to bounce off of it.
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Yeah, to be fair, I live around lots of Portuguese people, so I picked up a little bit of how they speak.
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Portuguese is sort of like Spanish, but with like a Slavic, almost sounding twinge.
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I got Portuguese lessons in a Portuguese police station once.
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Since we decriminalized all drugs, you know, we got nothing to do.
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It'd be more fun to just share anecdotes, wouldn't it?
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You're definitely more cheerful than what we've got.
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Well, I'm going to, to borrow an American phrase, rip the Band-Aid off and get on with it.
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So, Britain has a horrifying problem, and that horrifying problem comes from a specific country,
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And may you cast your minds back to 2021, I believe it was, September of 2021.
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Robert Jenrick was celebrating welcoming Afghans to our shores, of course, famous for being anti-immigration.
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The based Robert Jenrick, how could he do this?
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Of course, he is a conservative politician, so that's how.
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So, Robert Jenrick, keep his name in mind as we're going through these things, because, of course, he welcomed many of the people to our shores.
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Of course, many other Afghans have come here, either legally, other than the project that Jenrick oversaw, as well as illegally.
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I think they're a significant portion of the small boat arrivals in the channel, and so there's a vast spectrum of ways that they've arrived here.
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So, it's not just Jenrick, but he played a significant part in bringing some of them here.
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So, in the past 48 hours, and the reason I'm talking about this at all, there was four different cases of Afghans committing horrific sexual crimes against minors.
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And, unfortunately, I'm going to go over them, but this is just to highlight the extent of the problem.
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It's not necessarily to rub people's noses in the horrific crimes, but it is important to know about these sorts of things, because it is unpleasant.
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I don't like even looking at these sorts of things, but we do have to if we want to stop them.
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And here's one from the Manchester Evening News.
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He's Afghan National accused of sexually assaulting, I can't say that for YouTube, two girls, 14, in Greater Manchester, and they named them as well.
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So, Sultani Bakatash, and there was another one here somewhere.
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I always like to mention at least one of their names, not that it really makes a difference.
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But there's another one as well that makes it even worse, is here.
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The Afghan National accused of sexually assaulting two girls was allowed to stay in the UK with his family.
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You know, even a left-wing, it's just like, OK, you came here, you sexually assaulted some children, maybe you shouldn't be here.
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But no, apparently, that's not how this country works.
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And we're just going to keep them for some reason, even though, you know, if you invited someone into your home and they did something,
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And of course, your country is the extension of your home, and yet, here they are, still here.
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Of course, this is a policy failure from the government, that they're here in the first place,
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as well as not getting rid of them when they do things like this.
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And then there's also this from Leamington Spa, which is, if you're not familiar, a quaint little town in Warwickshire.
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I stayed there for a couple of weeks, actually, and it was very nice and very pleasant.
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Everyone was very friendly, except these two people, apparently, who hid in some bushes
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and dragged a 15-year-old girl away before sexually assaulting her.
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And one of the worst things about the actual case of this is that the lawyer representing the two Afghans
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said that if this video goes out to the public, there will be riots.
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And therefore, the video that the girl took, this video here, from the CCTV, is not the one that she took on her own personal phone.
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And so there are lots of people trying to push to say, well, why don't we see it?
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Because, of course, one of the things that is important about seeing these sorts of things is not necessarily that it's a spectacle,
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but that we need to understand the horrors that face people, particularly parents, right?
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I'm not a parent myself, but obviously do intend to be one.
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But a good parent should be willing to watch these horrors so they're best prepared to deal with the realities of the world.
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And by shielding people away from it or not showing it to people, all it does is obfuscate the reality.
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And I think that, of course, there is a strong political incentive to do this as well.
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The Pew Surveys did a study on attitudes of Muslims towards Sharia law and so on and so forth.
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At the low end, Tunisia and Jordan came in with 40% supporting Sharia law, including beheadings and stonings and things like that.
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In Afghanistan and Pakistan, it was in the high 90s.
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It was either in the low 90s or high 90s, but it was definitely in the 90s.
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And this was done in 2013 after 12 years of the war on terror and eliminating radicals and so on and so forth.
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To make it worse, in Afghanistan, it's considered absolutely hilarious if one of your mates knows your mother's first name, her given name,
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because it automatically implies that she's been promiscuous with you.
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So this is the mindset that you're dealing with.
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And women are veiled there for their own protection from other men.
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And their perception is that, yep, if she's not covered properly, she's fair game.
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And so when Jenrick says we're going to welcome X number of people, well, 90% of those have that attitude.
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It's absolutely insane to hide that from the public and to not discuss it and to not let people have some kind of understanding of how different that culture is from anywhere else.
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For the rest of the Middle East, the Afghans and the Pakistanis are considered by conservative Muslims to be absolutely mad.
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Like, I know that the Arab world in particular looks down upon those countries as being basically backward.
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So the level of racism in the Arab world towards these countries is quite spectacular.
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And they base it on their own experience having dealt with them as foreign laborers.
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So to say that, okay, let's just bring in a few tens of thousands and sprinkle them around the country for flavor is a deeply destructive policy.
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And when you consider that a lot of these people and senior officials were familiar with what was going on during the war on terror.
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And so if you're a competent politician, you should be well acquainted with Afghanistan, our role in it, and also the nature of the culture that we had to deal with.
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So that's what makes it so much more insulting for somebody like Generic to say, well, I was proud of my role in bringing in the Afghans.
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Also, on the point of seeing it, seeing the footage of it happening up close and personal, as horrifying as it is, and as horrifying as the actual thought of it is, it has a much more raw emotional reaction than seeing something like this footage from afar, which takes all of the emotion out of it.
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That's why they don't want you to see it. It's the difference between seeing it as kind of a neutral documentary observer versus being put in the shoes of the woman as it's happening, seeing the facial expressions that they would pull, the enjoyment that they're getting out of it.
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It paints a much clearer picture in your mind of who these people are.
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And it's the same as with language censorship as well.
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The words that you use form the thoughts in your mind and they dictate the thoughts that you put in your mind.
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If you see these people as savage animals in this situation, that is going to paint a much clearer picture of who they are than this ever would.
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It's one of the reasons that visual propaganda has always been so effective.
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George Floyd in 2020, nobody would have cared if it was just a CCTV silent footage from afar.
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It was the fact that it was an up-close personal visual footage of it being filmed on people's phones where you could hear him, you could see his facial expressions, you could see the disinterest of Derek Chauvin.
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That's what drew such a massive emotional response from people.
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And it's the same reason they try and hide things like what happened at the Bataclan in 2015 as well.
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They don't want people to know what happened because it's horrifying as well.
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That is one of the most grotesque things that has ever happened on European soil.
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But if you understand that and you see that, it's not just logically knowing.
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Like, you can see this and you go, I logically, rationally understand that this has happened.
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I'm not surprised one bit that they're trying to suppress and hide this video because given over the past months,
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we've had so many protests outside these asylum hotels and HMOs and so on and so forth.
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of, you know, I don't think they can stand it anymore.
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They can't stomach anymore, you know, lash back, hit back just from the British people.
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It's like, no, we don't want this kicking off over Christmas.
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Christmas isn't supposed to be the protest period.
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That's supposed to be summer, early autumn, and they won't end.
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They're not prepared for it at this time of year.
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What I suspect the videos will show you is a very comprehensive lack of mercy and compassion on their part
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What I suspect it will show you is that they genuinely don't care about the pain that they're inflicting.
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They don't care about the fear that they're inflicting.
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They probably relish it because it gives them power, and they probably fantasized about it,
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and so they're, you know, sort of affirmed in the righteousness of what they're doing.
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And then you see that side of their humanity, and you think, this is diabolical.
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That's why they're saying that it'll start a riot, because that's probably what it will show.
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And I have seen comparable sorts of clips, and I think, you know, having done this job a while,
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I imagine you two might be able to sympathize with me here.
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You sort of build up a mental model of what these sorts of things are like.
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Like, I haven't seen this video, but I sort of have an intuitive sense of it,
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because similar things like this, unfortunately, have happened.
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And there are videos of them, and they're some of the most harrowing things I've ever seen in my life.
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And so when I read about these sorts of things, that's what comes to mind.
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And unfortunately, you know, once you've done this enough, you can imagine what's happened.
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And it's things that should haunt you, and that's why they're suppressing it, of course.
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This is the fact that one of the people that did this in Leamington Spa, sorry,
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charted his journey across Europe, posting on TikTok, clad in designer gear and a gold watch before arriving,
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You have to be absolutely desperate to come in on the illegal boats, not be wearing designer clothing and having a gold watch and showing it off all on TikTok.
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I mean, I've seen these people in person, and many of them have better smartphones than I had, and, you know, nice watches and designer clothes.
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And it's just like, you know, if I saw a white person wearing that sort of thing, I'd think, okay, that, you know, they might be on like a council estate or something.
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But they're doing pretty well for themselves to be able to afford that.
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And so the fact that they're so-called asylum seekers is absurd.
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Have you seen any of these videos that they post?
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I remember from the bell, you can see them, and they post them.
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You look on their Snapchats, and it's like they're a travel influencer or something.
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They're listing the countries they've visited, the cities, and they're getting these silly pictures, landmarks.
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Yeah, pretty much, and it's the equivalent of barbarians going on a raiding party, raping and pillaging.
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And we're letting them in rather than fighting them.
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Four charged after a teenager, sexually assaulted in Bristol.
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So this includes some people that cannot be named.
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And then a 16- and a 20-year-old that can't have their details released for legal reasons, for whatever reason.
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And I can understand the 16-year-old, because, you know, they're under 18, but the 20-year-old, I don't understand exactly what reason that is.
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The fact that you'd sort of show up and find a bunch of like-minded people who are willing to go on a jolly rape with you.
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I mean, that tells you everything that there is to know about this culture.
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Like, if an English person went up to another Englishman.
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And, oh, hold on, let's sort of, you know, grab some chick and rape her.
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Whereas here, it's sort of, oh, that's a bonding exercise.
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I mean, you have to be absolutely insane to think that knowing somebody's mother's name is something to mock.
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And why would you bring it anywhere near anyone else?
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And also, it's a country where we occupied it for 20 years.
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Do you really think it's a good idea to then bring those people here?
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Do you think perhaps maybe there's going to be a certain degree of hostility towards us?
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You know, if someone occupied Britain for 20 years, you know, migrants perhaps.
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It's understandable that there's hostility towards them.
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But reading through the trial transcripts of the grooming gangs, particularly the one from Oxford in 2013.
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I'm not proud to say this, but honestly, it did make this, like, tiny little neocon generate in the back of my mind.
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Saying, like, hey, maybe we should just go to war with all these countries just because of how horrifying that stuff is.
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And then the final one, which didn't get as much press as the others, was this one, I think, in Nottingham.
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So, this was a deviant targeting young boys in Nottingham.
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He was on a park bench showing them pornography.
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And I think the children were as young as nine years old.
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And apparently, they were sexually assaulted as well.
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So, this was just in a park in the middle of the day.
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This Afghan was presumably one of the ones that we were supporting when we were over there.
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Because that was the famous thing, the footage from the documentary, that the ones that we were supporting would abuse the boys.
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The ones that we were fighting would abuse the girls.
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And just to pivot to some data on this sort of thing, to show that it is a civilizational thing, if you've not already been convinced.
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So, while 163 German citizens are suspected of crimes per 100,000 individuals, so per capita, for Syrians and Afghans, it's 1,740 and 1,722.
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Which means that Syrians are 10.7 times overrepresented relative to the German population, and Afghans 10.6 times overrepresented, which is obviously absolutely massive.
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So, I knew somebody who worked, tried to sort of dissuade them from doing this, but who worked in welcoming Syrian refugees into Germany in the Merkel era.
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And then, eventually, this person came to realize that when they asked for halal meat and got it, they understood that this is a weak culture that they can do anything to.
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And once they were given halal meat, everything broke down.
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And they kept on making more and more demands and becoming more and more ungrateful.
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Because they see your kindness as your weakness.
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In their home countries, they may not do the same kinds of crimes, because a mob would show up to their houses and burn them, with their families inside.
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Here, they just go to jail, as opposed to being killed.
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They don't feel that this is enough of a deterrent.
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People don't realize that our punishments are catered towards a civilized European people, and not people from this part of the world who simply see these sorts of things as laughable in terms of punishment.
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And, sorry, were you going to say something, Callum?
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So, here from the Women's Safety Initiative, they're sharing this.
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In Germany, Afghans and Africans are proportionally 40% and 70% more involved in gang sexual assaults than Germans.
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Even Africa, which has the sexual assault capital of the world in the Congo, is outdone by the Afghans here.
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And that wasn't actually 40% and 70%, that was 40 times and 70 times.
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No, no, just to emphasize what that means, is if you're in Germany, and you pass by an Afghan, he is 70 times more likely to try to do something to you than an average German person.
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And, of course, the Danish data as well, some of the most comprehensive data.
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You can see that Afghanistan is still up there as one of the top countries.
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I know it's a little bit difficult to see with a small text, but I'll zoom in a little bit.
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So, you can see here Afghanistan pretty close to Syria, but you've got basically lots of other Islamic countries as well as a few African ones sprinkled in.
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But it's unsurprising that they're up there, right?
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And you're starting to get a picture of, okay, these people are massively disproportionately likely to be violent rapists, basically.
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And, of course, this isn't just true of Germany, it's true of Britain as well.
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According to the Telegraph, foreigners account for one in seven sexual offences in terms of convictions last year, and this came from August of 25.
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So, it's worth saying that the conviction rate compared to the attack rate is abysmally low.
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It is indeed, but even so, that's still a staggering over-representation, isn't it?
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Sexual offences, it's a little bit zoomed in, so if we could zoom that out a little bit, Samson.
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We can see British all the way down at the bottom here, even the French are outdoing us.
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But all the way at the top, look at the difference.
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Afghanistan, number one, for sexual offences in London compared to the British down here.
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A tiny little proportion, and this is, of course, per capita as well.
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There's a massive disparity, and obviously, it's because they are different.
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It's going to be drug offences and gang-related.
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Afghans, of course, they're not necessarily as heavily involved with gangs as Albanians, who are sort of synonymous with it now, aren't they?
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So they're sort of our criminal underworld at this rate.
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And it's got to the point now where the Labour Party is saying things like, we must identify and address any links between ethnicity, religion and culture, and child sexual assault.
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Which is an interesting rhetorical shift, because they wouldn't say this sort of thing.
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And in fact, many of their own voters were calling them racist and far-right and things like that, and fascist even, for some reason.
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The whip says, apparently, the party's looking into it.
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Despite the fact that, apparently, as well, all of the Labour inquiry plans into it have also set out to determine if there is a link between all of these things.
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Like so many things, it's completely schizophrenic.
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It's part of party policy and party campaigns and initiatives.
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But if you actually go onto a platform like GB News and say it, then you may get an internal investigation against you.
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No, there's lots of double standards involved in these sorts of things.
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It's created to disincentivise people pointing out the problems, isn't it?
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They branded some spies for Israel, which is an interesting justification for it.
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But the point is that their daily returns peaked at about 50,000 people.
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And of course, it's probably easier to return them from Iran, because Iran is closer to Afghanistan.
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However, you know, with Britain being a more advanced economy, I think we could probably achieve 50,000 people a month.
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And then you can even look at places like Pakistan, who moved to expel 1.7 million Afghans from Pakistan.
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So when people say, oh, you're being racist, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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Well, it's already being done by Iranians, by Pakistanis, and, you know, they're pretty close in terms of geography.
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So to say that obviously there's a certain degree of conflict between the groups, that's why they're getting rid of them.
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But even so, that rhetoric doesn't really work here.
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The conflict between their cultures internally and their culture and Western culture is so much smaller, you know?
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Of course. There's a lot more compatibility there.
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So the idea that it will work in the West, because what, I don't understand.
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But I wanted to end on a positive note that Carl pointed out, that YouGov recently found out that 45% of people support remigration already in the campaign as it barely even got started.
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I think that as these sorts of crimes continue to go on and there's no solution in sight, everything seems to be a half measure, this is going to become a vast majority of the population, if not already.
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Because, of course, YouGov is running questionable ways and they can ask questions in a way that biases the result.
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I think that if a different institution were to do it, I think it would be in a majority, and I think some have already found that.
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However, even YouGov polling, I think, will start to suggest that people will support this in a majority.
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The way things are going, they can't continue as they are.
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The question is how and with how much violence.
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Like, in my mind, it's pretty clear that this is happening.
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But the question is, what are the mechanics and can it be done without an extreme amount of violence?
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I think that the earlier you do it, the more peaceful it will be.
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And so there's a strong incentive to get it over with as quickly as possible, both to protect the British people and to preserve law and order.
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Realpolitik, my show, has gotten so successful that we've managed to get Zelensky in the studio.
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I mean, he's in Syria at the moment, so thoughts and prayers.
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Let's hope the prodigal son returns eventually.
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He's probably going to have a bomb vest on him or something.
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Luke again says, why do I feel like we're going to get another knife girl like from Scotland,
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but this time they're going to be proactive when they see an Afghan person?
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Also, I think that the circumstances of that original Scottish girl were a bit more dubious
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Luke says, I feel like the reason why they can't bring this up and talk about this issue
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is because they have to admit the fault that liberalism has failed
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and they can't bring themselves to admit these problems.
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I'm not worried if they don't fix the problems the peaceful way.
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You'll only get people who will end this with this.
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There was some references to Al-Andalus and also to the Crusades and such.
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Please, like I say, like I always say, folks, we all have our little Fed poster,
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Just like I try and shut out my little neocon when I read through these transcripts, man.
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And also, the Engage few, that's a tiny little Henry Kissinger manifest.
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I mean, I appreciate the fiery sentiment, but I'm not going to read a Fed post, I'm afraid.
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On the other shoulder, I have a Henry Kissinger.
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So, again, with a bad news theme here, a British paratrooper was killed in Ukraine,
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And the government is saying that Lance Corporal George Hooley was far away from the front line
00:30:25.920
and that he was accidentally killed while training Ukrainians on some kind of new defensive capability.
00:30:32.720
The first point that I want to make is that I don't think that I believe them.
00:30:37.480
Because my understanding is that he was in a special forces support group,
00:30:42.420
meaning that he would have been close to the front line,
00:30:50.580
and probably ended up getting tragically killed that way.
00:30:55.040
But the government is very keen to say that, no, no, no, he was just sort of training and providing support and these kinds of things.
00:31:02.840
Because I don't honestly trust them that it was an accident.
00:31:09.820
And this is important because on this question hinges how involved is Britain in the Ukrainian war.
00:31:17.340
The mood from the public and from high officials has been a bit jingoistic, shall we say.
00:31:29.720
And the head of the army said last year that Britain must be ready to fight a war in three years
00:31:35.220
and that it should be doubling the army's fighting power by 2027 and tripling it by 2030.
00:31:45.220
I mean, it's a weird thing to say in a way because the military should be ready to fight full stop,
00:31:55.040
And of course, I also think that our standing military is woefully small.
00:32:00.120
And if we didn't have this needless government spending in lots of other areas of the economy,
00:32:06.560
I think it would have been much better spent on our military and giving us hard power around the world,
00:32:12.060
which actually is a good return on investment in many cases.
00:32:15.840
There have been a number of news reports that have basically outright said that we have very weak defensive capabilities
00:32:21.620
or offensive capabilities right now put into the public space.
00:32:25.640
And then we do things like we shut down our steel as well.
00:32:29.180
all of which is basically blaring out this huge siren to any enemy countries that may be looking,
00:32:37.960
And it's a very strange thing to be broadcasting that to the world.
00:32:42.160
We've not learned our lessons from World War I and II that if you import a large degree of things,
00:32:56.140
And when you hear about these stories, you have to sort of remember that the way that the army is planning,
00:33:03.200
at least according to the head of the army last year,
00:33:06.600
they might be, they think they might be fighting China or Russia or Iran,
00:33:18.700
Better than, um, better than the, uh, is it, is it, was it Reagan or Bush?
00:33:27.380
Uh, he was also the first man I ever heard say that Islam was a religion of peace.
00:33:32.800
you'd think I'd have heard this a lot of time if it was true.
00:33:36.800
They're really just obsessed with keeping the word axis in there.
00:33:40.080
Yeah, because they want, they want the World War II Hitler comparison to be in your head.
00:33:45.080
Yeah, we just want to kind of emphasize that they're the bad guys.
00:33:53.700
about how Britain needs to be ready to fight a war potentially with Russia,
00:33:57.620
even as Trump is saying that there should be a peace plan for Ukraine.
00:34:02.100
And even as the national security strategy of the United States,
00:34:08.380
was all about the necessity of ending the war with Russia.
00:34:12.220
So they're sort of emphasizing that we need to end the war with Russia.
00:34:16.480
And the reaction from Britain is, no, we have to be ready for war with Russia.
00:34:21.300
But the reality is that this condition of Britain's armed forces is atrocious.
00:34:26.280
During the time in 2023 and 2024, where the Hothi were blockading the Red Sea,
00:34:34.200
Britain struggled to send either of the two aircraft carriers into the area
00:34:39.540
and instead had to rely on typhoon flights going 3,000 miles to attack the Hothi.
00:34:48.360
And in the end, one of the aircraft carriers was deployed.
00:34:53.700
And it was pretty obvious that Britain's carriers,
00:34:57.040
the main means of power projection that the country has, can't really function.
00:35:02.160
To the extent that sending either of them to a training exercise couldn't be done.
00:35:11.140
They did eventually manage to send one of them.
00:35:19.180
which is, you know, not the most complicated part, as far as I can tell.
00:35:26.440
But it seems to be one of the less difficult parts of building a vessel.
00:35:31.560
I mean, you would hope the British would be good with ships.
00:35:37.740
But the reality is that these things that cost 3.7 billion each
00:35:48.340
The problem isn't even our technological understanding or how we've constructed them.
00:35:53.360
The problem is we mothball everything when it's not in use.
00:35:57.720
And just don't fund our military enough for it to be functional.
00:36:03.760
But it's one of those things where if you cut costs in it, you will pay the price.
00:36:08.540
Because it's something that you should constantly be seeking to expand your power and influence
00:36:14.300
and capability with, the U.S. does understand this, which is why they've got hard and soft
00:36:19.280
power, as well as obviously being one of the largest and most successful countries.
00:36:24.220
So they've got the ability to back up what they say because they've got the rifles and
00:36:31.200
And in case you think that it's just the aircraft carriers, it's considerably worse
00:36:37.640
because the way that some of the new destroyers were designed, they didn't have any land attack
00:36:45.040
So these things were sent to help with intercepting the drones and the missiles that the Hothis
00:36:52.420
But they couldn't retaliate against the source of fire, which seems like a pretty basic thing
00:36:58.600
that you want to keep in mind, because the assumption was that the aircraft carriers would
00:37:02.920
do the ground attack bit and that the destroyers would just be there to defend the aircraft
00:37:10.520
Is this not another consequence of us having our budget cut whereby, you know, if you can't
00:37:16.400
afford to have a functional military, at least have defensive capabilities?
00:37:21.100
But then the carriers cost three and a half billion pounds.
00:37:25.000
And even then, when they deploy, they can't deploy with a full air wing.
00:37:29.400
So they're supposed to be able to carry 40 aircraft and then, you know, maybe 24.
00:37:35.860
And then it turns out, no, just 16, which is maybe enough against the Hothi.
00:37:41.520
But if you're fighting against Iran, it's not, let alone if you're fighting against China.
00:37:45.560
So the capability has been so degraded that it's just becoming a major embarrassment.
00:37:58.220
The ships, the destroyers can't attack land targets.
00:38:01.420
And the aircraft carrier that is meant to attack land targets can't be deployed.
00:38:08.720
And then you look at the state of the submarine fleet.
00:38:13.360
And here you have Rear Admiral Philip Matthias, who used to run the nuclear bit in the Ministry
00:38:22.240
of Defense, the director of nuclear policy at the MOD, and who led the review into Trident,
00:38:29.780
whether or not Trident was working and could deliver.
00:38:34.480
And he says Britain is no longer capable of running a nuclear submarine program after
00:38:40.440
catastrophic failure has pushed it to the brink.
00:38:49.600
And he's saying that the situation is absolutely atrocious.
00:38:53.440
And he's saying that Britain should pull out of AUKUS.
00:38:56.100
AUKUS is an Australia-UK-US alliance to build submarines in partnership between the three
00:39:11.340
And he's saying that the length of deployment on submarines has become too long that it is
00:39:15.720
no longer sustainable because there aren't enough of them and there aren't enough crews
00:39:21.460
So this is what things look like in terms of the power projection and in terms of the nuclear
00:39:34.820
And I want to talk a little bit about the Army's new infantry fighting vehicle.
00:39:39.740
Now, infantry fighting vehicles, they do what the name says.
00:39:43.600
It's where you place infantry and you send them in order to fight.
00:39:51.060
And the Army has no idea what it's going to do with these things because the tracked version
00:39:56.780
of these vehicles, Ares and Athena, don't have a clear doctrine as to how they're going
00:40:10.500
And they performed quite badly, all things considered, because they're not ready for
00:40:18.380
And the existing infantry fighting vehicle, Warrior, is going to be out of service soon.
00:40:24.600
There's a bunch of other versions of them, like different things.
00:40:27.760
But the newest one, which is meant to cost 10 billion pounds to build 500 of them, isn't
00:40:41.580
And the ones that are being delivered have pretty terrible quality issues.
00:40:47.400
This is a pretty good account, military banter.
00:40:55.660
And what's been happening is that soldiers who are receiving these new infantry fighting
00:40:59.440
vehicles from General Dynamics are so pissed off at the state of the items that are being
00:41:07.180
delivered to them that they've started leaking information about the poor quality.
00:41:15.180
I'm not a technical guy, so I don't fully understand this.
00:41:17.980
But I know you shouldn't have this kind of loose wiring.
00:41:25.740
I know these things shouldn't be shaking when they're bolted on an armored infantry fighting
00:41:35.240
And it still sort of snaps off just like it's nothing.
00:41:47.200
Everything in the vehicle shakes to the extent that 31 soldiers were injured just because of
00:41:58.080
being in the vehicle as it was being tested out.
00:42:03.040
Those videos that you see of builders and construction experts going to new build houses across the UK
00:42:10.120
and seeing the absolute cowboy job that has been done on them.
00:42:21.100
The hinges on the doors aren't fitted properly, so it'll warp.
00:42:24.780
It's the same philosophy governing both, isn't it?
00:42:26.840
They know some idiot's going to buy it, and in this case the idiot is the British government.
00:42:32.800
So as long as it looks like a tank, or an infantry fighting vehicle, then they're going to buy it.
00:42:40.180
And then it's only going to be later that we're going to realise, oh, these are rubbish.
00:42:43.940
We shouldn't be relying on cowboys for our military defence.
00:42:48.140
That analogy kind of reminds me of the videos in China where they're smashing apart the buildings
00:42:53.720
I was hoping we haven't outsourced our military industry to China as well,
00:42:57.480
although by the video that might be a good thing, you know?
00:43:04.020
I think his name is Alfie Usher, and I've reached out to him.
00:43:08.260
They're coming off the production line with around 150 faults each.
00:43:12.220
They can't meet the tests that General Dynamics itself set up.
00:43:20.360
Then they have to get in the civil servants in the Department of Defence to get them to sign a concession
00:43:27.780
so that vehicles with these numbers of faults are allowed into the army anyway.
00:43:33.580
The ex-army guys are sort of being abused and being made to sort of defend whatever General Dynamics wants.
00:43:45.880
And the management can't meet the targets that it sets itself in any shape or form.
00:43:51.640
And the soldiers that are there to do the testing are made to work 16-hour shifts or made to work weekends
00:44:02.940
And it seems like a pretty fat trough, and everybody's feeding off of it,
00:44:08.060
including people who were in the military who then get paid by this military contractor
00:44:13.740
The boots on the ground and the taxpayer that are losing out, and everyone else wins.
00:44:24.400
They're removing data for inspections, which seems a bit crazy.
00:44:29.380
They're trying to blame the users for getting injured in the vehicle,
00:44:33.180
saying that they are not wearing the seatbelts properly or are not sitting properly.
00:44:38.660
I'm sorry, when you think about this vehicle sort of going through European planes,
00:44:46.820
do you think everybody's going to be sitting properly while they're waiting for drones to kill them?
00:44:52.040
And some of it gets pretty bad because they don't seem to have figured out the camouflage for the vehicles.
00:44:57.720
So they can't put camouflage nets on them so that they can't be seen by the eye.
00:45:02.260
And they haven't figured out how to place thermal covers on them so that they can't be seen by infrared drones.
00:45:11.600
These are basic engineering things that should have been figured out before they even, you know,
00:45:15.800
while it was in concept, let alone after they built it.
00:45:19.420
So they're using things from other kinds of vehicles that the military has
00:45:24.380
and trying to cut them to size and stick them together to make this thing work.
00:45:29.400
And then you ask yourself, well, is this how war is going to be fought in the drone age?
00:45:39.080
And so the whole thing with reports coming in from inspectors and so on,
00:45:46.100
they're saying that 150 faults might be an understatement.
00:45:50.500
And people who are involved are saying, I hope it gets canceled because it's bloody useless.
00:45:58.320
The worst part is, is that these same people who are responsible for this project were awarded mega project of the year.
00:46:09.380
So incompetence at this level is getting rewarded and the taxpayer is getting screwed and the army isn't getting what it needs
00:46:21.900
to the extent that soldiers are being injured because of the vehicle before getting into battle.
00:46:27.680
I'm glad to know that the Oscars aren't the only useless, corrupt, inconsequential award show out there.
00:46:35.800
Apparently even the military defense contractor award shows are just as shit.
00:46:41.660
I was just going to say that one of the things that I have learned, you know,
00:46:46.180
learning about the military and the political side of it,
00:46:48.600
is that when you listen to the soldiers, they rarely complain about kit that's good.
00:46:57.000
Like I remember many soldiers complaining about, was it the L-80?
00:47:06.680
And then they replaced it eventually after a long time.
00:47:10.000
But they weren't complaining unduly because they'd used American issue assault rifles and they were better.
00:47:16.460
Well, the problem is the mindset because the British tried to build a Rolls Royce descendant to combat
00:47:25.340
And so they tried to add everything on it without understanding that the nature of warfare has fundamentally changed.
00:47:32.460
And it's all about attritable assets that are cheap and easily replaceable.
00:47:40.680
So the Ajax is supposed to do everything, but the result is that it can't do anything.
00:47:46.980
Whereas a Toyota is just supposed to get you over difficult terrain, and that's exactly what it does.
00:47:52.240
And if you're at the age of drones, you're not going to be able to armor the vehicle enough.
00:48:00.580
You need lightness, and you need proper defenses for the soldiers, and you need invisibility.
00:48:07.640
But this is supposed to be a recon vehicle, and it can't even get proper camouflage.
00:48:23.420
And so you see the establishment is finally beginning to wrestle with this.
00:48:29.840
And this came out from Frank Gardner, who's an ex-army guy, works for the BBC.
00:48:41.300
I think the regime, when it's talking about war capabilities, has to be honest with itself.
00:48:48.100
Well, clearly they haven't been when it comes to everything.
00:48:51.380
When it comes to submarines, and when it comes to nuclear submarines, and aircraft carriers, and all that stuff.
00:48:58.360
Well, hopefully this guy can be a bit more honest about it.
00:49:02.200
He's beginning, but he's only covering a small part of the problem.
00:49:06.200
So he's going on about how, yes, there is this change in warfare, and it requires just volume.
00:49:14.620
And in it, he attacks Russian equipment as being substandard, and Russian soldiers as being terrible and poorly fed.
00:49:21.360
In a front line that's several thousand miles long, everybody's poorly fed.
00:49:36.780
But what they're saying here, what he's quoting in this article, is that the Russians are producing,
00:49:41.260
every month, 150 tanks, 550 infantry fighting vehicles, 120 high-end drones, the Lancet drones, and 50 artillery pieces.
00:49:53.140
The entire span of the Ajax project produces 589 infantry fighting vehicles over several years.
00:50:04.660
If the lessons of the past two world wars are anything to go by, the main thing you need to learn is industrial capacity wins you wars, right?
00:50:12.760
That's why America did so well, is that it was an industrial powerhouse and produced just massive-scale military equipment.
00:50:20.780
And the Germans were constantly of the view that American tanks were inferior to the Panzers and to the Tigers and to all of the upgrades in between.
00:50:31.360
But there was just so many of them that they won anyway.
00:50:42.960
The Germans destroyed countless of them, and they captured a few, and they looked over and said,
00:50:48.480
well, this may all be like cutting-edge technology, but it's really badly put together.
00:50:54.300
But as many as they destroyed, they just sent more and more and more because productive capabilities were such that they could do.
00:51:00.700
Well, quantity has equality on its own, doesn't it?
00:51:05.240
I mean, it doesn't really paint a good picture for us if we're struggling to produce even like...
00:51:10.940
If we're struggling to produce like basic infantry fighting vehicles, and you know, as you mentioned, the massive numbers that Russia's producing.
00:51:18.780
And ours are coming out with hundreds of floors.
00:51:21.160
Our men getting injured, not even by the enemy, but ourselves.
00:51:27.480
Like, we're trying to build bespoke, except we can't even do that very well now.
00:51:36.980
Roussi is the Royal United Services Institute, which is almost the think tank of the government.
00:51:43.600
It's where a lot of policy is formulated, and it's where the government gets its official views.
00:51:49.100
So they've had some pretty terrible views in the past, but at least here they're realistic.
00:51:53.920
And they say there remains little evidence that the UK has a plan to fight a war lasting more than a few weeks.
00:52:07.920
So the British plan for mass casualty outcomes appears to be based on not taking casualties.
00:52:15.580
And then the gentleman says this could be considered an optimistic planning assumption.
00:52:29.540
And then the same gentleman says that to fight a long war you need proper backup.
00:52:34.180
It demands a second and even third echelon, personnel, platforms, and logistics chains that can absorb losses and continue the fight.
00:52:42.700
But this depth is absent from current British force design.
00:52:46.320
So he mentions that you need logistics chains, implicitly industrial chains as well, to support them, like on which they would be built.
00:52:55.820
And every industry in this country is collapsing because of high energy prices and taxation to death.
00:53:00.040
So the belligerence against Russia at a time when soldiers are actually dying, fighting for Ukraine, seems a little bit disconnected from the reality.
00:53:14.720
So what I was going to ask, is there just some kind of assumption going on that there would be a grand scale American bailout in the case of any larger scale war breaking out?
00:53:25.260
Because that's the only explanation that I can think for such haphazard planning.
00:53:32.340
But the American new national security strategy is all about reducing commitments in Europe.
00:53:38.280
Now, Congress just passed the Defense Authorization Act, which requires the Americans to keep not less than almost 80,000 soldiers in Europe for more than 45 days.
00:53:53.040
So they can't go below 80,000 for more than 45 days is the new thing.
00:53:57.660
But I don't know whether or not the president is going to actually implement the letter of it.
00:54:02.640
And the strategy is that, no, no, no, we need to get out.
00:54:06.320
And we need to let the Europeans defend themselves.
00:54:08.620
And that's what Trump has been saying for years now.
00:54:10.300
And that's what he's been saying for years now.
00:54:15.160
It's the public mood that says, OK, you guys are not doing your bit.
00:54:19.860
And in the long term, this is best for both America and Europe as well.
00:54:26.840
But the issue is that when the government is faced with this reality, they go on the defensive and say, well, we're spending 5 billion pounds to upgrade this and that.
00:54:36.580
Where you're spending maybe 10 billion on Ajax or 5 billion on Ajax and you're getting 600 vehicles over five or six years, eight years late after 15 years of design when the Russians are producing 500 vehicles in a month.
00:54:52.500
So there's a complete dissociation between what they're saying, what they're doing, and reality.
00:55:06.080
And they seem to think that this is good enough.
00:55:10.100
At least a big part of the problem, and I have to mention this, is the way that the culture and the armed services has changed.
00:55:17.280
So the RAF was complaining that pilots trying to, or people trying to become pilots, are useless white men.
00:55:29.320
And wokeness and environmentalism and managerialism and all of this BS has completely infected the armed forces, which is why you see them behaving the way they do about Ajax.
00:55:39.980
They're trying to find a bureaucratic solution.
00:55:42.020
Now this guy is saying that they're trying to find who is leaking information to him so that they can punish him.
00:55:49.520
But they are completely out of contact with the fact that if these vehicles are used in their current state, you might as well give them to Russia because they'll do more damage to Russia that way than if you try to use them against the Russian military.
00:56:02.940
And the complete culture of it has just been destroyed.
00:56:11.440
And you get these bureaucrats trying to run an army when armies aren't run that way.
00:56:17.880
And it's all about diversity and gender roles and integrating women in the armed services and trans this and DEI that.
00:56:27.020
That might be a new strategy given that increasingly young men of this country are not going to want to fight for what this country is.
00:56:35.500
So they're thinking maybe we can get the new people in to fight for the country.
00:56:41.820
I've always interpreted this as this sort of thing.
00:56:44.300
It's not necessarily just purely trying to expand this ideology to all aspects of society.
00:56:49.280
It's also that the military is sort of a stronghold and still is to this day of young white men who are patriotic about their country will fight and die for it.
00:57:00.960
And basically, when you're looking at that as a left winger or a sort of neoliberal bureaucrat, that's antithetical to your ideology.
00:57:12.740
So the Saudis never wanted a strong military because they were concerned that it would lead a coup against them.
00:57:20.240
The royal family was afraid that they'd lead a coup against them.
00:57:24.540
So instead, they ended up sponsoring militias reporting to the different princes.
00:57:30.180
And it's the same mindset here that sees the military as a threat.
00:57:33.780
Because you know that the grunts who are joining the armed services are definitely not going to be happy with more Afghans, with more rapes, with more lunacy, with more transgenderism, with all of that, with all of the regime religion, essentially.
00:57:49.260
Some of the most right-wing people I've ever spoken to, the most patriotic, dyed-in-the-wool people, have been in the armed forces.
00:58:12.600
I mean, it's the same when I've been, for the show that Samson and I do about, are doing about Japan.
00:58:20.180
I've been reading up about Japanese history leading up to the Second World War.
00:58:23.380
And it's just kind of funny how in the 1920s and 30s, what happens is you get the ultra-nationalistic army.
00:58:30.100
Just any time the emperor wants to set up a new government, the government don't do what the army wants.
00:58:37.160
The army's really unhappy with how their own family members are being mistreated at home because they were living under really bad conditions for the sake of rice farming, etc.
00:58:46.240
And it would just be the emperor sets up the government, army coups the government, kills the prime minister.
00:58:51.300
Emperor sets up a new government, says, don't you go killing my prime minister again.
00:58:57.080
The next day, they coup the government and kill the prime minister.
00:58:59.540
It just happens over and over and over again until you do get to the situation in the late 1930s when it's basically the emperor's figurehead to a military state.
00:59:09.780
So that's always a worry with these kind of corrupt regimes.
00:59:21.180
There's rumble rants and such we can go through.
00:59:24.120
Danny, is it fair to say the UK is likely to rely on the US for production?
00:59:28.500
And we will just be a launch pad and punch bag.
00:59:34.520
Basically saying, are we going to be used in the same way that we were in the Second World War?
00:59:38.840
Again, if Trump's got his way, I don't know if they'd necessarily want to be involved in it.
00:59:45.760
I'm sure all the new Ukadians that have been imported will form a mighty force that will bring diversity to Russia and China.
00:59:53.840
Russia, already a very diverse country, actually.
00:59:58.980
Sigil Stone, I think I found General Dynamics' problem.
01:00:05.300
To secure pieces to prepare for war, quote, Metallica.
01:00:26.400
One side just shifted its operations center from the Soviet Union to China.
01:00:30.540
Our side, the Anglo-American Empire is hitting limits.
01:00:33.400
Can it even be considered Anglo-American anymore?
01:00:39.320
Can it even be considered American is my next question, but that's a different conversation.
01:01:21.260
Anyway, so institutional corruption is something that we're constantly having to fight against
01:01:26.920
when we talk about all of the horrible atrocities that are committed against our people.
01:01:32.340
Every single day, increasingly every single year with the greater importing of more and more
01:01:37.500
people that we see and many British people leaving the country along with that, meaning
01:01:43.380
the demographics are even more rapidly shifting every single year.
01:01:48.060
And it's interesting to look into it because you need to consider how much the institutional
01:01:55.460
corruption is purely as a result of ideology, that being that discussions of race, ethnicity
01:02:02.080
when it comes to issues like the grooming gangs don't want to be discussed because it makes
01:02:06.500
people's feelings hurt, feelings hurt, it goes against their ideology, or how much there
01:02:14.480
And this is something that we have to see over and over again with social care workers
01:02:18.680
and the failings of them, failings of the police institutions as well, which is what this
01:02:23.860
whole thing that Labour have set up with the inquiry that has not, as far as I'm aware,
01:02:28.880
yet started properly because of all of the setbacks that they've had.
01:02:31.700
That was something that they were supposed to be looking into, but it's becoming increasingly
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It has been difficult to ignore all of it for a long time.
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And that's why, as Josh mentioned in his segment, you have the people like this Labour
01:02:47.040
MP, Mike Tapp, getting in trouble with his own party for saying that we need to identify
01:02:51.540
and address any links between ethnicity, religion and culture, and child sexual assault.
01:03:00.460
Whatever you think of him being a Labour MP, that is the right approach to take for this
01:03:04.520
because these things are all connected and they cannot be ignored, how they play into
01:03:10.160
Of course, in response to that, he was told off.
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There have been a number of Labour MPs complaining about his remarks on race.
01:03:17.820
The pig, whoever wrote this article for the news statements...
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Yeah, the piggy, appropriate for a communist rag, has already seen one formal complaint from a
01:03:28.000
Labour MP to their whip, asking whether the government's official position is now that
01:03:32.220
BAME citizens or residents of the UK might have a high predisposition to be child sexual
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Well, certainly judging by the statistics that we've seen...
01:03:44.820
Other MPs have expressed unease about the post to the whip's office.
01:03:48.560
There were also ructions about Tapp's post in the Black PLP WhatsApp group on Wednesday
01:03:55.760
One MP was told by a whip that the matter was being discussed on Wednesday, but it's
01:04:01.420
Worth emphasising that investigating any link between ethnicity or religion and grooming
01:04:06.540
gangs is part of the terms of reference for the National Grooming Gang's inquiry and
01:04:11.100
was recommended by Baroness Casey in her audit of group-based child sexual exploitation.
01:04:16.900
And this was further reaffirmed back in September by Shibana Mahmood herself.
01:04:21.480
So it's interesting the kind of schizophrenic contradictions that are going on here, that
01:04:26.700
it's actually part of the government policy, it's part of what the government is aiming
01:04:30.100
to investigate with this inquiry, which is already stalling and has a lot of questions
01:04:35.260
about it, and then how they react to somebody simply restating those aims.
01:04:43.340
It's the same as when Beau was kicked out of reform for saying, okay, we want to deport
01:04:48.240
all these criminals, here's how we would deport all of these criminals, and reform found that
01:04:56.620
It's like they don't have any intention of actually following through, or didn't at the
01:05:00.640
You can say that they may have changed their positions since then.
01:05:03.780
And again, the institutional aspect of it, because one of the things that's really slowed
01:05:09.020
down the inquiry, was the involvement of police officers and social care workers on the board
01:05:15.560
of those looking into it, and a lot of complaints from some of the victims, some of the survivors
01:05:20.560
who were also involved in it, who left, by saying that, well, these people are going to have
01:05:25.080
incentives to protect anybody that they may know, or maybe just the institution as a whole
01:05:33.940
Did you see the news that came out recently, that since people have been looking into the
01:05:38.740
Met police, they found that at least one officer was directly involved in the grooming
01:05:44.900
Yeah, that's literally what I was looking into here.
01:05:47.140
Now, that ties into this, which is a new LBC, I know LBC, but they've done an investigation
01:05:53.360
where they found that the Met, brushed under the carpet, claims that an officer ran a grooming
01:06:00.440
gang that sexually abused girls in care, and that was according to this investigation,
01:06:05.140
also supposedly involved the activities of at least one MP and one judge, according to
01:06:11.540
one of the survivors who spoke to LBC about this.
01:06:14.960
And that means that not only is it the on-the-ground police force, because this was a custody officer,
01:06:20.180
so somebody directly involved in taking care of survivors and victims and people who are
01:06:26.240
outside of their own family's care. Not only somebody like that, but also the people who
01:06:31.320
are making policy and the people who are passing judgments in these cases was directly involved
01:06:37.340
Now, I do want to point out a few things about this investigation that kind of got my ears,
01:06:43.940
like, prickled my ears a little bit, which is that in this investigation they, and you
01:06:48.560
would expect this from LBC, they refused to name when they mentioned things like the Rotherham
01:06:53.300
grooming gangs, the Rochdale grooming gangs, the Bradford grooming gangs. They mentioned
01:06:58.720
that they were hid by the institutions and they were covered up for a long time. They
01:07:03.540
refused to name the reasons why that is. They just mentioned it as though it was just like
01:07:08.300
something that they did for reasons of pure corruption, without mentioning the racial aspect
01:07:13.560
of it. And in fact, the whole thing is kind of strangely deracialized, which may be something
01:07:20.760
that some of these more mainstream platforms are aiming to do now. They're going to start
01:07:24.980
to try and acknowledge that grooming gangs are a thing, that they've been operating for
01:07:28.960
a long time, but they're going to try to perhaps deracialize it.
01:07:33.380
I think there's already rhetoric in existence at the minute. Whenever you bring up the grooming
01:07:36.740
gangs, there'll be a picture of one in, like, Scotland where it's white people and like,
01:07:41.360
well, people of all colours take part in grooming gangs. And it's like, well, no, not only is
01:07:46.640
it disproportionately a certain section of the population, but also, yeah, and also our
01:07:52.920
homegrown people are our problem, whereas the people we've let in the country...
01:07:59.740
So, and that's something that we'll be discussing for our premium subscribers on the round table
01:08:04.280
that we'll be doing after this. We'll go into more detail on that. But as well, the officer
01:08:09.060
that they're investigating, you only get a very brief glimpse of him near the end of it,
01:08:14.120
but he does appear to be white. So, again, this is one of those questions where you can
01:08:19.780
say that maybe there's a racial aspect for people like this gentleman, PC Ditter, who
01:08:25.620
was arrested back in 2019 for alleged involvement in a grooming gang and child sexual exploitation.
01:08:33.420
He was working for West Yorkshire Police, so you can be assured that that probably would
01:08:37.040
have been around Rotherham. Ironically, he'd been trotted out a number of times in the mainstream
01:08:41.860
media as an advocate for racial diversity and racial integration and cohesion within
01:08:48.140
multicultural areas and within the police. He was the guy that they brought out to say,
01:08:52.680
look, they care just as much about the community as you do. That was a case that has now been
01:08:58.060
dropped. But you could say that if there were failures with the West Yorkshire Police, that
01:09:03.520
was because, one, he was involved, allegedly, and two, he had a racial incentive to do so,
01:09:10.240
or a religious incentive to do so. This one, whoopsie daisy, might have just been the fact
01:09:17.060
that, you know, this guy was just directly involved. There are corrupt people within these
01:09:22.760
institutions who are just sick, sick creeps and individuals who want to hide this in a
01:09:29.380
kind of Jeffrey Epstein manner, in that they're all involved in it, so it helps them to keep
01:09:35.240
it out of the public eye. Can I say something ever so quickly about this? Yeah, of course. I'm just
01:09:38.860
going to put my tinfoil hat on, which I very rarely wear, but in this instance, I find the
01:09:44.400
absence of grooming gangs and the discussion around grooming gangs in London for such a long
01:09:49.460
time very curious. And the fact that you mentioned a judge and an MP being involved makes me think
01:09:53.920
that perhaps there's a much stronger political incentive to keep those under wraps than perhaps
01:09:58.800
the other parts of the country, which is why it's taken so long. That's the thing that's explained
01:10:03.180
in the documentary, in that you hear about it all in the North, and the phenomenon seems to only
01:10:08.220
really be discussed in the North. Obviously, we have transcripts from the one that happened in
01:10:12.320
Oxford, but that's kind of an outlier. Mainly, it's considered, like, in Yorkshire and Greater Manchester,
01:10:19.320
whereas he speaks to some specialists on the subjects, and he says, no, this is widespread
01:10:24.280
in London as well. It just, for whatever reason, and I think we can see some of the reasons
01:10:30.060
here, does not get the same eyes on it. Wasn't the Oxford Ring trafficking girls to London?
01:10:35.840
Around Slough. Right. People, I believe they were trafficking them around the country, parts
01:10:41.500
of the country around Oxford, and then also people from communities in Slough, Bradford,
01:10:47.560
Rochdale, all of those places would travel to the areas around Oxford to abuse the
01:10:54.260
girls that these people were trafficking. So, they say in here, yep, they've got the involvement
01:10:59.460
here. The Met launched a criminal investigation at the time. This man left the force in 2012
01:11:04.620
whilst under investigation, which should not have been allowed. He had to get it written
01:11:10.120
off for him by a superior officer that he was allowed to leave the force at the time, which
01:11:16.380
again suggests even greater institutional involvement. But there was also the victim, the survivor,
01:11:23.680
who said that the officer had abused her multiple times as a child and shared her with other,
01:11:28.880
quote, important men at a hotel in Park Lane in central London.
01:11:34.040
LBC understands the other men included an MP and a judge. LBC can reveal the officer was
01:11:40.780
allowed to retire as a custody sergeant while under investigation. In 2012, officers under criminal
01:11:46.240
investigation could only retire with permission from a senior officer. They also spoke to a former
01:11:51.580
detective about the case whose identity they're protecting. He said, quote,
01:11:57.180
this lady had been arrested recently and when she got into the custody area, she was shocked to see
01:12:01.080
who the custody officer was. This lady had been in care as a child and they used to run away
01:12:05.800
from care and come into London. That same officer used to pick her up with other girls sometimes,
01:12:11.280
take them to an address in London where he and several other powerful men would sexually abuse
01:12:16.020
them. She said one of them was a judge. I then phoned the on-call detective chief inspector,
01:12:21.560
told him the story, told him that I recognized who it was because of the way he is and that this
01:12:27.300
woman is definitely telling the truth and it needs to be looked at. So he's calling just for an
01:12:30.700
investigation on the basis of these allegations and he said, no problem, leave it with me. I'll look
01:12:35.920
into it. I naively thought it was being looked at. Then within a month, I was told that he retired.
01:12:41.500
At that point, you could not retire if you had an outstanding complaint against you. You couldn't
01:12:46.180
resign or you could not retire. So I thought it was just brushed under the carpet and that nothing
01:12:50.560
had been done. There's no way he should have been allowed to retire. And being asked directly by the
01:12:55.440
interviewer here, he says, was this a cover-up? Yes. Yes. By definition. Clearly a cover-up.
01:13:01.340
They tried to get in contact with this officer and he said no comment when they went to his address.
01:13:07.780
But then they sent a letter to him detailing all of the allegations and testimonies that they
01:13:12.460
gathered as part of this. And the officer replied and said he was investigated. Clearly not. He just
01:13:18.300
retired while the complaint investigation was outstanding and cleared of the allegations
01:13:22.880
and denies the new claims. I believe LBC tried to look into whether there was any records
01:13:27.960
of this investigation clearing him. No, wasn't. In a statement, he said, I categorically deny the
01:13:35.660
allegations. They also say here, there are also questions as to why the officer was not
01:13:39.780
investigated as part of a major review by the Met looking into allegations of sexual and domestic
01:13:44.600
abuse by officers between the period of 2012 and 2022. And that was part of the larger investigation
01:13:49.700
that came off the back of the murder of Sarah Everard by Wayne Cousins. So all of this is very
01:13:55.600
strange and suggests a high level of institutional involvement and corruption, not only by this officer,
01:14:03.400
but as stated there, also by MPs, by judges, by senior officers. Whether or not that they were
01:14:10.900
directly involved in the abuse of girls, they at least knew enough and cared little enough about
01:14:17.460
the abuse going on to protect this officer. That's what it comes across as here. We do not know his
01:14:24.260
identity. That has been kept off of the record, of course, because this is allegations and testimonies.
01:14:29.360
But it does suggest that there is a reason why we do not hear much about any of this happening
01:14:34.980
within London, despite the huge population of foreigners and criminals and other people who
01:14:41.700
you would expect to engage in this behavior. It's likely because the higher powers are directly
01:14:50.460
I was to put on my own tinfoil hat. I'd go a little bit further. I'd say that this is a threat to the
01:14:58.540
grooming gang investigation, saying that there are other abuses that we can expose if you expose this.
01:15:06.460
I mean, potentially. But that's what's going on in London right now.
01:15:10.120
No, no. I just thought it was absolutely wicked, to be honest. Wicked, not in a positive connotation,
01:15:16.360
of course. But just horrible that this has been so clearly covered up and there's been no regard for
01:15:22.440
our women and that she'd come to the police with this issue and it's been like, oh, I'm going to look
01:15:31.780
And it's the same story that we hear each time as well, that these are vulnerable girls in the care system.
01:15:39.740
The assumption is, well, they're disconnected from their family or their family doesn't care about them.
01:15:44.480
There's no one to protect them. They are easy meat. And that's not just something that we see with the
01:15:49.260
foreign grooming gangs. Apparently, it's even with the abusers within the system itself.
01:15:53.360
And it's horrifying to think that these girls and their lives are so carelessly thrown aside for the
01:16:02.020
If the care system is that bad, first, it has to be fixed. And second, there has to be an answer to why
01:16:10.700
that many girls end up in care. Why are families breaking down? Why is society falling apart?
01:16:16.840
Why are they being put into these vulnerable positions in the first place?
01:16:19.500
To the extent that families aren't taking care of their young girls. That is also part of the problem.
01:16:26.800
Is there too much gambling? Is there too much drugs? Is there too much drinking?
01:16:30.280
Should some of these things be better regulated to make sure that families don't fall apart in this
01:16:36.660
way? Is divorce too easy in a way that leads to just girls not being cared for because their parents
01:16:43.420
are off pursuing other partners rather than remaining in a family home?
01:16:50.740
Is there something within the culture that's promoted to these people that encourages them to engage in
01:16:56.100
Exactly. Is promiscuity being presented as something that is good or liberating?
01:17:04.060
So all of these things that are broken in Western culture because of the loss of Christian family
01:17:14.240
values are contributing to it. And then you have this bunch of animal-like predators who are running
01:17:23.200
around exploiting the actual victims of family breakdown and of the loss of social cohesion
01:17:30.640
who are young girls. And it has to be looked at from both ends. What should be done to strengthen
01:17:37.960
families? What kind of belief systems does a society need to have strong families? And why are
01:17:48.680
I think that's absolutely true. I was about to say it is largely a cultural issue and I'm glad you
01:17:53.240
covered that bit at the end. But the matter of fact is these men are still here. It doesn't matter
01:17:57.800
whether these girls were in care or not. If they weren't, they'd probably just end up grabbing someone like we
01:18:03.000
saw at the start of the podcast in the other set of segments. You know, there's still these men who would go
01:18:09.080
around abusing young women. And that's an issue.
01:18:13.480
And these are the kinds of men who would do it regardless of the girl's family. I mean, they're just sort of
01:18:18.200
picking up a random 15 year old from the street. In Oxford, there was a story a couple of weeks ago.
01:18:24.920
It turns out that some girl was going from one place to another and he just grabs her and rapes her.
01:18:31.800
And so the animals being on the street are 70 percent of the problem, 80 percent of the problem.
01:18:39.800
But there is that other percentage of the family breakdown.
01:18:42.360
Yeah, there's the there's the family breakdown. There's the criminal elements. And to get back to
01:18:46.280
the criminal elements in this report, and then I'm going to finish the segment for time and also
01:18:50.840
because there was there was more, but it doesn't really matter. And it's not as connected to this in
01:18:55.400
the report in the investigation when they're speaking to the specialist who's telling them about how
01:18:59.960
this is definitely something that happens and is widespread across London and it's not reported on.
01:19:05.480
He also talks about how the care homes themselves, one of the reasons for it being so widespread
01:19:11.080
in these care homes is that the industry having been privatized means that many criminal gangs just
01:19:18.040
outright buy these places up and use them to filter these girls through. So it might be that the criminal
01:19:24.600
gang will buy them and then they'll get a raft of girls through. Perhaps all of them are seen as easy
01:19:29.400
targets or perhaps simply the most vulnerable ones will be picked out from them and then abused,
01:19:35.800
maybe given drugs, given alcohol, because if these are criminal gangs, they'll have access to all of
01:19:40.120
these vices as well. And then potentially and there needs to be much more investigation done into this.
01:19:46.280
This is the tip of the iceberg. Perhaps then they're trafficked as well. And given the kind of nature of
01:19:52.040
gangs that we're talking about, it may not only be domestic trafficking, it could be international
01:19:56.440
trafficking in the same kind that we see across Eastern Europe as well. So this is only the tip
01:20:02.360
of the iceberg. There is a reason outside of just the ideological multicultural reasons why this is
01:20:09.480
kept from us. It also goes into the institutions as well with some very sick and corrupt people in charge
01:20:17.000
of these women's safety. Blimey. All right. Nice fun one to end on there.
01:20:22.920
It was. It's important stuff, though. Do we have any video comments, Samson, or should I just go to
01:20:27.720
the written comments? Let's go through a few of these while he's getting some of the video comments.
01:20:32.040
I'll write the ones for my rumble. I can't see them here.
01:20:35.240
With what you say, I see nationalism rising in Britain and the more that they say that this is
01:20:39.400
Fed posting, it only causes it to grow in strength, look over the parties in Europe like those in
01:20:45.160
Germany and Sweden. I'd also say in Australia as well, there's a very, very strong nationalist movement
01:20:50.680
in Australia. It's not strictly Europe, but it's a European-British country. Also, with the ones
01:20:55.720
from Scotland, didn't they get tried and arrested really quickly, unlike the kerfuffle we've seen
01:20:59.960
with every other non-white grooming gang? I don't know about the ones in Scotland, to be honest.
01:21:04.040
I think they did. Yeah, they did. The Romanian gang.
01:21:07.960
Yeah, it turns out that they were two Roma who ended up being arrested for these kinds of things.
01:21:12.680
What a surprise. Some say the bread and circuses will prevent any action, but forget that the bread
01:21:17.400
has mold and the circus is boring. Yeah. Yes. Yeah, let's watch some of these video comments.
01:21:21.800
And to the deus vault comments, yes, we agree, but we are on social media.
01:21:28.680
A spokesman said, this is the one thing we didn't want to happen.
01:21:35.400
Elon, what are you doing? Did you see the video that came out from his ex-AI conference?
01:21:40.920
I did, yeah. And it's like, at least 50% Indians.
01:21:45.800
More than that, even, I would say. Probably more than that. And it's like, you can't keep
01:21:50.200
pretending to be a nationalist whilst also promoting this. Somewhere amongst that crowd
01:21:57.320
was the face of Inevitable West. He was there, somewhere. Shockingly, the only white man in the crowd.
01:22:07.080
I can't find many details about Sarah Johnson, which may be for the best. I recommend buying
01:22:11.960
this book if you want to discover the absolute worst way to write. This is not an analysis so much
01:22:17.160
as a fervent call for revolution that browbeats the reader with repetition of its core claims.
01:22:22.200
Wealth is unequally distributed, big business has too much power in politics, and multiple other
01:22:26.920
injustices, all seemingly correct but claimed without evidence, that can only be corrected by a communist
01:22:33.400
uprising. Yes, that is the clarion call of this book.
01:22:38.440
So you're telling me a woman wrote a book where all the arguments are just scolding? I can't believe
01:22:45.560
But on a slightly more serious note, the conservative position was always mistrustful of too big business.
01:22:53.480
Even free marketeers, the general idea is that competition keeps business small because
01:22:59.240
business grows too large and it's bad for the economy and for itself.
01:23:04.920
So to read some written comments, Ed Miliband harnessing Enoch's spinning grave.
01:23:12.360
Royal Leamington Spa is not so pleasant now because it's proximity to Coventry.
01:23:18.040
It's a lovely area, but some very unsavory people there now.
01:23:21.160
I was accosted by homeless people each time I went without fail.
01:23:23.960
The last time I was there, to be fair, was about eight, maybe even nine years ago.
01:23:28.760
Now I've lost track. It seems recent, but it probably wasn't.
01:23:42.360
Firas, an Afghan migrant has won an asylum case to stay in Britain after answering,
01:23:46.840
I don't know, more than 150 times during a home office interview.
01:23:58.760
They might as well literally do the thing of the home office interview,
01:24:02.280
is them just saying, give me orange, me eat, give.
01:24:07.320
And they go, well, rubber stamp you straight through, brother.
01:24:11.240
Also that Simpsons meme where it's like, are you about to commit a crime?
01:24:24.440
I'm publishing German government statistics can get you arrested.
01:24:27.240
I'm sure the German government will have a word with
01:24:33.640
But you've used some more colorful language there to get you extradited.
01:24:37.160
I don't think the Germans are going to come for me.
01:24:38.680
Well, one thing I had that I didn't really mention in the segment for time
01:24:43.000
was that in Germany, a Turkish guy stabbed his wife to death.
01:24:47.640
And after publishing his nationality being Turkish in the media,
01:24:52.120
the city's integration officer condemned the publishing of the nationality.
01:24:59.480
And that state has just passed a law meaning that they're actually,
01:25:02.360
and this is kind of an improvement, they are going to publish the nationality
01:25:06.520
of the criminals, the people perpetuating crime, no matter their passport.
01:25:13.080
So even if they've got a German passport, they're going to start to actually say,
01:25:16.760
well, this person is originally Turkish, this person is Syrian, yada, yada, yada.
01:25:20.520
But it's weird, again, the schizophrenic contradictions going on.
01:25:24.440
They still have an integration officer saying, no, that's very naughty, go straight to jail.
01:25:30.600
When we win, I'm going to make it compulsory for them to take ancestry DNA tests
01:25:36.440
Just like, here's the exact recipe of this scumbag.
01:25:40.440
All British criminals confirmed to be Irish after that.
01:25:44.600
I wonder if there's an integration officer anywhere.
01:25:55.160
I'm sure there's a disintegration officer on the death star.
01:26:09.640
Sophie Liv says, I'm glad all of this imported labor to build our houses and military equipment
01:26:18.520
Michael says, back in the 80s, I was always impressed by the skill and ability of British forces I worked with.
01:26:24.280
As I've said before, the thing that made Britain impressive was that they were
01:26:27.800
highly effective militarily on a shoestring budget.
01:26:31.800
Yeah, that now it's spending too much and not getting enough results.
01:26:36.040
It's the same thing that made us win the war for the sea.
01:26:39.640
The Spanish went for firepower, the French went for hull strength, and we went for good trained men.
01:26:44.920
And it turns out good trained men wins every time.
01:26:53.160
I think the fact they're trying to replace them with no straight white men is going to kind of
01:27:03.080
Binary Surfer says, the MOD abandoned buildability studies, how you can actually get something from
01:27:11.400
a drawing concept to plans and engineering diagram, all the way back in the 2010s.
01:27:17.000
This is catastrophic in infrastructure projects, same applies here.
01:27:21.240
It's why Hinkley Sea partly is running at 300% plus of original budget.
01:27:30.360
Lord Inquisitor Hector Rex says, there's a game called War Thunder.
01:27:39.000
Are we going to get the advertisement just pop up right now?
01:27:43.320
Tell the game developers the specs of the tanks aren't correct and get ignored.
01:27:48.680
They proceed to leak the official designs to prove them wrong.
01:27:54.760
If you want military secrets, the War Thunder forums are genuinely the best place to go,
01:27:59.240
but don't do anything with them because that's bad.
01:28:02.920
That suggests, that implies that the War Thunder players doing that are insiders,
01:28:10.600
Which kind of makes me want to explore that game.
01:28:14.120
The only people more autistic than train autists is tank autists.
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England has bred an amazing variety of autisms over the years.
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Dirty Belter, great name, says the term grooming gang is itself obfuscation.
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Even when we can discuss this, they hide who was involved and downplay the seriousness
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To know the true name of a thing is to hold power over its language as a perceptive tool.
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That's why they will not let you utter the phrase Islamic rape gangs.
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That's also part of it, but also just like sex slavery is what most of these girls end
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As we mentioned with the case of Oxford that we'll look at a bit more in the next round
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table, you know, these girls were used as slaves so that the people who owned them could
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It's like just the term grooming doesn't really emphasize how horrible and how much damage
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I mean, I mean grooming only really describes the initial stages of when they are folding
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And after that is when it becomes rape gangs, sex slavery, human trafficking, just a criminal
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It is unfortunate that YouTube sort of forces you to have to use a euphemism to discuss these
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Control the words that you use, you control the thoughts.
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Omar Awad, nobody is watching the Watchmen, but everyone can see that nobody is watching
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People are already beginning to form their own Watchmen.
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It won't be much longer until trust in the system collapses entirely.
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I think as generations begin to melt away and the older generations who are a much larger
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portion of the population end up passing away and the younger generations realize that
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they are rapidly becoming a minority in their own countries.
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But once those people who are older, who still have that ingrained trust in them start
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to pass away, it's going to become clearer and clearer.
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North FC Zuma asks, Harry, when is your next episode of Journey to the East with Samson,
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Well, we were thinking about doing it this month, but given that we're doing a follow-up
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to the Silent Hill thing, we're going to do a part two on that looking at the second
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half of the series and some of the more recent stuff, and there is a new film, a sequel film,
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coming out in January. We thought we would postpone it just a little bit until January
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so that we can add a review of that in and look at it more as a whole.
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Okay. Well, thank you very much, Callum, for coming in.
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And sorry to the audience, to depressing you all, and you know, have a nice weekend
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I know, but I'm not going to be here on Friday, so I'm wishing them a weekend in advance.
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Yeah, tomorrow I'm spending the day reading at home, it's going to be nice.