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00:04:28.820 the news. Yeah, so I'm sad to say I watched the full Trump-Kamala Harris debate this morning on my

00:04:35.360 way into work, and it was boring. I have to be completely honest, guys. I know that people want

00:04:44.040 to hear about how it was this huge triumph for Trump, how there were so many incredible takedown

00:04:48.560 moments, how the energy was back. And I think there's a lot of truth to parts of that, because

00:04:53.040 Trump certainly was a lot more tenacious. He was much more on attack than he was at the Joe Biden

00:04:59.160 debate. But I think perhaps it's just a part of me and my preferences that I find these kinds of

00:05:04.500 big American moderated debates quite dull and boring. Maybe it's because, as much as I dismiss it and

00:05:12.340 say it's so terrible, I'm so used to the schoolyard bullying style of debate that goes on in UK

00:05:19.780 Parliament, where it's flinging thinly-veiled insults at one another while all of the rest

00:05:25.140 of your group goes, whoa, behind you, that this... underwhelmed.

00:05:31.640 You think that we've just reached the stage of civilizational grief where we've hit acceptance,

00:05:35.900 and lots of other people that still care about this are in the bargaining stage, and so they think

00:05:39.440 that recycling constant WWE-style smackdowns is actually going to move politics forwards,

00:05:45.840 and they think that if Trump just squeaks out another really convincing policy proposal,

00:05:50.180 or another brutal insult levelled at Harris, then it'll change all the minds of the single

00:05:55.440 women voting purely on the basis that they've been convinced the other side is weird. Because 1.00

00:05:59.140 at this point, I think the sides are so entrenched, these debates basically do nothing.

00:06:02.880 Well, that's one of my concerns with the whole thing, which is that the debate was essentially

00:06:07.260 a reaffirmation of all of the policies that we already know that Trump is going to do,

00:06:11.420 and maybe a hint at the policies that Kamala Harris has been not very forthcoming in explaining 0.93

00:06:18.500 to people. She was going on about how there was going to be some kind of, what was it,

00:06:23.620 accommodation economy, some kind of striving economy. Basically an economy that works for

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00:08:28.560 Anyway, back onto the news. So yeah, I watched the debate. Um, Kamala Harris, uh, if I'm going purely

00:08:35.980 by vibes... Which is the most important thing in public. As most people do. Donald Trump, despite

00:08:41.440 obviously being, uh, getting along in his age right now, seemed energetic, he seemed a bit tenacious,

00:08:47.760 he was on the attack. Again, unlike when he was against Biden, because he knew that all he needed

00:08:51.620 to do with Biden was stand there and watch as Biden sank himself. Um, so he was energetic, interrupting,

00:09:00.120 a bit more combative, which was all very good. Um, Kamala Harris has the voice, mannerisms, 0.86

00:09:07.660 an heir of a naggy HR woman. And I think that Americans should purely vote against her and vote 1.00

00:09:16.220 for Donald Trump, just on the basis that, do you want the nagging HR woman to run your country and 1.00

00:09:22.420 be delivering speeches for the next four years? So, I think that Trump's tactic of being concise,

00:09:29.960 direct, and measured during the Biden debate served him well, not just because Biden actively has

00:09:35.780 dementia and was falling apart like the guy that drinks from the wrong cup at the end of Indiana

00:09:39.620 Jones 3, but also because it pushed back against the perception that he's too pugnacious, that he

00:09:46.420 is in this for his own ego, and that he just wants to be there to insult people that have personally

00:09:51.700 slighted him. And so I do think if there is another debate, which I think is unlikely given it's

00:09:57.260 approaching the election... I think I've seen that Elon Musk wants to host one, but, uh, he would not

00:10:02.400 expect Kamala Harris to show up. No, I think that two things should happen. One, in any future

00:10:08.800 debates, if they happen, it's unlikely that Kamala will agree to them, he should go back to his more 0.89

00:10:13.460 reserved, statesmanly, I am the king-in-waiting, you're mental, you've had four years to screw up

00:10:18.500 the country, here's how I'm going to fix it like an adult persona. And, as Baron Trump, our future 0.79

00:10:24.240 Caesar, of course, has been advising his dad, go on other podcasts and allow the at-length

00:10:30.540 platform where you can't be frustrated by a partisan moderator to show off your agenda and

00:10:35.860 show off how personal ball you are. The podcast with Theo Von was very good. I wouldn't be shocked

00:10:39.560 now that Trump has been... I think he also appeared on Logan Paul for places. I'm not sure. He may well

00:10:45.360 have done. He had a photo of Jake Paul, didn't he? I remember that. I believe so, yeah. Um, I think I

00:10:50.760 wouldn't be shocked. Joe Rogan refused to have Trump on his podcast last time around. This time around?

00:10:54.600 Maybe this time? Well, he's been endorsed by RFK and Tulsi Gabbard, which were Joe's preferred candidates,

00:10:58.940 so I wouldn't be shocked if you see Trump on Rogan, and that'll do better than any sort of debate with

00:11:02.800 Harris. Yes, and you mentioned the moderators. There was definitely a case to be made for this

00:11:07.640 that Donald Trump was debating three people at the same time. The moderators seemed a lot more

00:11:11.860 combative of the claims that Trump was making versus the ones that Kamala Harris was making. For

00:11:16.860 instance, one of the particular ones that I noticed was when Kamala Harris was mentioning that,

00:11:22.020 oh, Donald Trump's government left us with record unemployment, all of these different economic

00:11:27.960 problems, and we managed to bounce back from that and get everything back in order.

00:11:31.900 If Donald Trump had said such a thing, the moderators would have jumped in to correct him.

00:11:36.060 Donald Trump, in fact, had to correct her himself, when the moderators, in fact, seemed to be trying

00:11:40.220 to scoot the conversation along and get away from that subject, because Donald Trump pointed out,

00:11:44.700 hey, we were in the middle of a pandemic right then, we handled the pandemic great. Obviously,

00:11:50.140 on the Republican side, there's a debatable question as to whether Donald Trump did handle

00:11:54.400 the pandemic correct or not, but still, those were the circumstances of the economic downturn

00:11:59.860 that happened at the end of Donald Trump's administration, whereas all of the years leading

00:12:04.660 up to it were, for all intents and purposes, great for Americans economically.

00:12:09.080 Well, they were in a much better position during COVID lockdowns at the end of Trump's term

00:12:15.140 than after the COVID lockdowns because of Biden's Inflation Reduction Act, because of the mass

00:12:21.200 money printing here conducted, you just look at the job records, every single year when

00:12:24.600 they're revised, hundreds of thousands of them get shaved off. Lots of the jobs were

00:12:28.500 bounce-back jobs coming out of predominantly Democrat lockdown states and rehiring. Lots

00:12:33.480 of them were also federal employment jobs, like hiring thousands of IRS agents. And so, Trump

00:12:38.720 having to correct that on the fly. Another example was when he said that Governor Virginia

00:12:43.260 Ralph Northam had proposed post-birth abortion as a possibility, and the moderator stepped in

00:12:47.620 and said, that's not legal in any state. Actually, something to know, I think it was 2018 or 2019,

00:12:54.320 Kamala Harris, when a senator, voted against the Born Alive Protection Act, which means that if any

00:12:58.500 baby survives an abortion attempt, the doctor can now just leave it to die of exposure on an

00:13:04.140 operating table. Kamala Harris endorsed that. So, I would say that's a kind of post-birth abortion 0.99

00:13:08.160 right there. So, the moderator's not holding her to task on that and actually actively

00:13:13.180 frustrating Trump. Again, the fact-checking was very partisan in the way that it was being used,

00:13:19.000 especially against Trump, which is especially disappointing because those were outright lies,

00:13:23.680 as you've clarified there, being peddled not only by Kamala but by the moderators as well,

00:13:29.140 which is annoying when abortion seems to, for a lot of female voters in America, to be the one 1.00

00:13:38.300 hot topic issue that they actually care about and could win their vote. So, if you're trying to

00:13:43.320 appeal to them the very fact that Donald Trump is having lies said to him and about him on air that

00:13:49.340 aren't being contested by the moderators and supported by the moderators, that's disappointing

00:13:53.840 to see, but at the same time not surprising in the slightest. So, that's one of the big hot-button

00:14:00.500 topics that was discussed. The way it was formatted was, you know, a typical no audience like the Joe

00:14:06.480 Biden one, where you've got the moderators proposing the questions, each candidate has two minutes to

00:14:11.560 give their answer, and then there's a bit of back and forth in between all of that. So, it's done in

00:14:16.100 a very orderly way, but again, it made it very dull, going by policy by policy, which is very important,

00:14:22.980 I understand, but does not make for the most engaging listening. But I think what was the best

00:14:27.720 thing that Donald Trump did was that almost every single policy that they were discussing was that he

00:14:33.380 wrapped it back around into the immigration issue, which I think even more so than abortion for many

00:14:38.480 people is going to be a deciding factor for most voters, especially in the wake, as we'll get onto,

00:14:45.000 of the Springfield, Ohio case where the 20,000 Haitians have been, I think it's fair to say,

00:14:50.400 unleashed, is the appropriate term, on the local citizens.

00:14:54.540 They're acting as they would do in Haiti, surprise, surprise.

00:14:57.980 That magic soil, it takes the time to work, doesn't it? You need to wait for it to really kick in

00:15:02.460 before you start to get results. So, yeah, I think Trump was right. He made some very strong

00:15:07.260 statements regarding immigration, and he actually made some great points that engaging in the debate

00:15:13.460 in the first place is basically a waste of time. There was a slight criticism of the entire American

00:15:20.140 electioneering system at this debate, because Trump was pointing out, why are we doing this when

00:15:26.580 instead, you, being vice president of the current administration, could be at the White House right

00:15:31.520 now, coming up with solutions, proposing solutions, enacting solutions, making decisions to fix the

00:15:38.360 problems that are happening in this country. And again, one of the things that I noticed from

00:15:42.440 Kamala Harris when I was able to get past the irritating nasal whine of her voice was that she 1.00

00:15:49.420 didn't actually talk about any of the achievements of the Biden administration.

00:15:54.200 Because there aren't any.

00:15:55.360 Yeah. Makes it kind of difficult, doesn't it? She was making lots of promises for what's going to 0.82

00:16:01.060 happen in the future. She was going to be giving a $50,000 tax rebate or tax cut to small business 1.00

00:16:09.020 owners who are going to be making, then starting up new small businesses. There's going to be some

00:16:13.500 kind of tax cut for the middle class. And then trying to say that Donald Trump was only going to

00:16:17.900 give tax cuts to the rich and the billionaires, etc, etc. All of the same rhetorical talking points that we

00:16:23.720 would expect these days. Donald Trump just turned around and said, you're a liar, you're a Marxist, 1.00

00:16:28.220 your father is a Marxist professor, we all know what you're actually like, you're one of the most 1.00

00:16:31.820 far-left liberals who's ever been in the government of the United States. So he was quite effective

00:16:37.640 in doing that. But I think some of the most important points can be basically summed up in a

00:16:42.400 few clips that I was able to find. One, which is when Donald Trump went very, very hard talking about,

00:16:49.260 you know, why are we wasting time? Why are you doing this? Yes, I've noticed. Ignore him. This

00:16:55.480 is just the clip that this particular man was able to get. Average Kamala Harris fan on the bottom

00:16:59.980 right. Yeah. She's so brat, don't you know? So here's Donald Trump excoriating her on why are we

00:17:05.900 doing this debate when you could be actually solving the problems? Why are we allowing these millions of

00:17:12.120 people to come through on the southern border? How come she's not doing anything? And I'll tell you what

00:17:16.480 I would do. And I would be very proud to do it. I would say we would both leave this debate right

00:17:21.680 now. I'd like to see her go down to Washington, D.C. during this debate because we're wasting a lot 0.99

00:17:27.980 of time. Go down to because she's been so bad. It's so ridiculous. Go down to Washington, D.C. and

00:17:34.020 let her sign a bill to close up the border because they have the right to do it. They don't need bills. 1.00

00:17:39.300 They have the right to do the president of the United States. You'll get them out of bed.

00:17:43.020 You'll wake them up at four o'clock in the afternoon. You'll say, come on, come on down

00:17:46.700 to the office. Let's sign a bill. If he signs a bill that the border is closed, all he has to do

00:17:52.440 is say it to the border patrol who are phenomenal. If they do that, the border is closed. Those people

00:17:58.160 are killing many people, unlike J6. We talked to him a really, really strong statement. That was 2016 0.98

00:18:05.040 Trump. Yeah, that was 2016 Trump. And when you get 2016 Trump coming out, which did happen a lot more

00:18:10.960 often in this debate, he has the same effect. He has that same charisma. He can grab your attention.

00:18:16.220 He can get you to laugh. But as well, he's advertising himself as that man of action.

00:18:20.420 He's saying, this administration, all that they've done has been a complete failure.

00:18:24.380 Everything that they've done is something that this country is ashamed of and has embarrassed

00:18:27.820 us on the national stage. I am the man of action who will make the difficult decisions

00:18:32.920 that we need to see in this country to fix those problems. So I think in moments like that,

00:18:37.900 he was very, very strong. And I think Rorak Nationalists actually took out a clip from his

00:18:43.020 closing statements, which sum it up very nicely here.

00:18:48.780 So she just started by saying she's going to do this. She's going to do that. She's going to do all

00:18:53.260 these wonderful things. Why hasn't she done it? She's been there for three and a half years.

00:18:59.200 They've had three and a half years to fix the border. They've had three and a half years to create jobs

00:19:05.800 and all the things we talked about. Why hasn't she done it? She should leave right now, go down to

00:19:12.140 that beautiful White House, go to the Capitol, get everyone together and do the things you want to

00:19:17.180 do. But you haven't done it and you won't do it because you believe in things that the American

00:19:21.820 people don't believe in. You believe in things like we're not going to frack. We're not going to

00:19:27.000 take fossil fuel. We're not going to do things that are going to make this country strong,

00:19:31.440 whether you like it or not. Germany tried that. And within one year, they were back to building 0.83

00:19:36.740 normal energy plants. We're not ready for it. We can't sacrifice our country for the sake of bad

00:19:44.920 vision. But I just ask one simple question. Why didn't she do it? We're a failing nation. 0.95

00:19:51.860 We're a nation that's in serious decline. We're being laughed at all over the world,

00:19:57.240 all over the world. They're left. I know the leaders very well. They're coming to see me.

00:20:01.040 They call me. We're laughed at all over the world. They don't understand what happened to us as a

00:20:06.400 nation. We're not a leader. We don't have any idea what's going on. We have wars going on in the

00:20:12.680 Middle East. We have wars going on with Russia and Ukraine. We're going to end up in a third world war 0.86

00:20:19.380 and it'll be a war like no other because of nuclear weapons, the power of weaponry. I rebuilt our entire

00:20:25.940 military. She gave a lot of it away to the Taliban. She gave it to Afghanistan. What these people have 0.75

00:20:34.280 done to our country and maybe toughest of all is allowing millions of people to come into our 1.00

00:20:40.300 country. Many of them are criminals and they're destroying our country. The worst president, 0.89

00:20:45.300 the worst vice president in the history of our country. 0.94

00:20:49.760 President.

00:20:51.380 So a lot of Trumpism's thrown in there. Quite a bit of fire. You know, some have accused him of being

00:20:57.060 rambly, but I think he gets the point across that he's going for quite well. And again, that is the

00:21:02.860 important question that I think he kept harping on throughout. Why haven't you done it then?

00:21:09.100 The best way that I have found to frame any political issue is to put it on the people who

00:21:15.160 are in charge. They are to blame because all of these consequences are downstream of political

00:21:21.760 choices. Every single immigrant, illegal immigrant, legal immigrant, who kills a member of the 0.54

00:21:29.400 indigenous population, that is a political choice made by the government to keep making 0.85

00:21:33.600 that case, as he did there, effective.

00:21:35.520 Yes, certainly effective. He certainly thought it was effective because he went on Truth Social

00:21:39.960 straight after and said, I thought that was my best debate ever, especially since it was

00:21:44.780 three on one.

00:21:45.600 Is he Robert De Niro or what?

00:21:46.640 Close enough, isn't he really?

00:21:48.160 Forget about it.

00:21:49.780 No, I mean.

00:21:50.640 Why isn't he doing this on Twitter?

00:21:52.440 This is the question. He did put a big post on Twitter a few weeks ago, didn't he? But I

00:21:56.440 think that's the only activity that's been on there since then. So, I mean, his posts on Truth

00:22:02.020 Social inevitably get onto Twitter one way or another. So, I suppose he thinks to himself,

00:22:07.320 ah, I don't need to do it directly anyway. And also, he has confidence within his own

00:22:13.100 platform. So, you know, I can't blame him for that. But I think one of, again, I mentioned

00:22:19.120 the Ohio situation. That might end up actually being a turning point because if we're going

00:22:24.580 to talk about how, you know, ghetto for Trump might have flipped a few voters within the

00:22:31.740 typically Democrat strong black American vote, then we've got to talk about how the kind

00:22:38.780 of bad publicity that's coming to the Biden administration through potentially cats and

00:22:44.320 dogs being eaten by rabid Haitians on the streets of Springfield, Ohio, is a bad PR move 1.00

00:22:51.940 for the Biden administration and might win Trump some votes as well, especially with the slop AI

00:22:58.380 meme campaign that immediately launched after... I love this. Yeah, I kind of love it. And also,

00:23:03.500 right, the great thing about this is it positions the wholesome love of the Anglo, of all of their furry

00:23:14.320 friends and feathered friends against the third world barbarism of if it crawls, walks or squawks, 0.80

00:23:22.500 I'll eat it. Like, that's... And so it just shows a big civilizational difference. And again,

00:23:28.260 it shows it's a political choice as to what attitude we have towards animals and who is brought

00:23:33.760 in to change that attitude. Yeah, certainly. And Trump was one to actually actively jump on it during

00:23:38.680 the debate. Here's a little clip. In Springfield, they're eating the dogs, the people that came in.

00:23:44.740 They're eating the cats. They're eating... They're eating the pets of the people that live there.

00:23:51.940 And this is what's happening in our country. And it's a shame. It's a shame. I love the... I love

00:23:59.160 the passion. It's like, they're eating the dogs. It's so good. It sounds like Frank Reynolds.

00:24:04.340 It really does. It's so good. But also, you know, we've seen this footage, these photos come out.

00:24:11.800 How can it be debunked? There are photos of it. The man has a whole goose.

00:24:16.460 Yeah. I've avoided the videos of people eating cats, but I have seen that they're going about.

00:24:22.120 It's happened in other European countries as well. We've seen it. Libs of TikTok has procured a police

00:24:27.040 report, police officers, where it's been called in that the Haitian migrants have been abducting the

00:24:32.420 police. I've got friends like Nate Hockman, who's going down there to interview the locals next week.

00:24:36.960 So all of this, oh, it's been debunked by local officials. Yeah, because it looks bad,

00:24:40.520 but it is actually happening. Yeah, well, local officials actually have a decision and choice

00:24:44.820 that they can make themselves, which is, are you going to report on it? Are you going to log it?

00:24:49.320 Are you going to admit it? Are you saying that local government can't also be corrupt or have its

00:24:54.860 own agenda that it wants to push and will spin or hide things because of that? I think that's very

00:25:00.840 naive and foolish or more likely just politically motivated in the first place. But as I mentioned, 0.98

00:25:06.160 there is the meme AI campaign going on right now to position Donald Trump as king of the kittens,

00:25:13.180 which is pretty great. This is great. This is great. If you're not watching and just listening

00:25:19.260 right now, I'd suggest you just look at your phone unless you're on your car or something. So just look

00:25:24.700 at the screen and see some of these. They're fantastic. Normally AI can be a bit hit and miss and a bit

00:25:29.200 try hard, but this is great. Look at this. It's wholesome and also reclaims the discourse of Trump

00:25:34.720 and Vance putting off quote unquote childless cat ladies. It's actually, no, no, we're family

00:25:38.640 friendly. We're also felon friendly. Well, yeah, that's the thing. Also, I don't know personally,

00:25:43.300 I don't know specifically, but I can't imagine that Donald Trump hates cats. Here he is in

00:25:48.520 Springfield, Ohio, actively saving cats from rabid Haitians. What a hero. Scroll down. Look, 1.00

00:25:57.640 they're eating the dogs is trending. In all caps. They're eating the dogs. And this, I assume this

00:26:04.840 is what he did immediately after the assassination attempt. He got off the podium and saw some Haitians 0.99

00:26:10.080 attacking cats and just knew what he had to do. He said, fight. Fist in the air. I joked with you

00:26:15.220 warfare. Maybe these Haitians just took the, um, the ducks are free meme from Alex Jones a little 1.00

00:26:19.780 too seriously. Yeah, perhaps. But even then you're not supposed to eat them. You weirdos. Take care of

00:26:25.120 this is what your cat is doing when you're away from the house. You've always wondered. We have

00:26:28.700 footage. Why do you keep calling this the Chinese visors? Why do you keep calling this the Chinese

00:26:35.040 visors? Why do you keep calling this the Chinese? There you go. Your cat loves him. You're going to

00:26:41.220 say no to your cat. If you are a childless cat lady right now, wouldn't you want to make your cat 1.00

00:26:45.260 proud? Here's Kamala Harris in the meantime. What she's planning on doing, this is a look. I've

00:26:50.760 looked into my crystal ball. This is a vision of Kamala Harris's America. This is what she's going

00:26:55.380 to be doing in the White House kitchen. Paired with a nice box of wine, I'm sure. Oh, sure. Only one?

00:27:01.260 My goodness. Here's, uh, what happened to Garfield after Biden and Kamala got their hands on him.

00:27:08.480 Yeah. Tragedy. I wonder why they couldn't rebuild after the earthquake. Is it maybe because their

00:27:12.880 civilization is really backwards? We also have live footage from what happened when the Haitians 1.00

00:27:18.700 arrived in Springfield.

00:27:24.140 Looks like kittens back on the menu, boys! Biden's fighting Uruk-hai at the ready.

00:27:30.860 Well, I have taken to referring to the sort of graffiti you see in diverse metropoles as the

00:27:36.520 white hand of Saruman. Yeah, actually. That works. That works quite well. And we've got

00:27:41.120 footage of... This is not the link that I put in there. Uh, here's the... Here's the, uh, footage

00:27:47.000 of Donald Trump. This is real, by the way. Don't fact check me on that. Kissing ducks.

00:27:52.780 He needs to retweet this. He does. He needs to... He needs to actively go out and do this as a

00:27:58.180 photo op, is what he needs to do. Trump feeding ducks would be a good... Especially with the grandkids.

00:28:02.700 That'd be a really nice photo. Exactly. But he's already done enough, I would say, in just

00:28:06.560 highlighting the issue as part of the debate to signal to everybody who cares about the

00:28:11.160 issue that he cares about the issue. Did Kamala say anything about it? No, she didn't.

00:28:15.540 Did you see the Gollum post, by the way? Uh, no, I missed that one. It's the man with

00:28:19.740 the geese, and it's contrasted to Gollum when he's singing in the Forbidden Pool, and it's

00:28:24.200 like, the ducks and geese are great to eat.

00:28:26.860 Oh, no. And, uh, I think one of the best things about this is that it's triggering the

00:28:32.760 libs. Here is Eric Salwell going berserk over it. This is the guy that farted in, live

00:28:38.860 on TV. Remember that? Apparently he also slept with the Chinese. Yeah, her name was Fong 1.00

00:28:43.760 Fong. You want some fun fun? Works every single time. What in the hell is this? The chairman

00:28:54.380 tweets, protect our ducks and kittens in Ohio because he goes some down, goes down some

00:29:01.240 crazy rabbit hole, completely debunked that aliens are eating pets? It's not aliens, it's

00:29:08.740 Haitians. My God. Are you okay, Mr. Chairman? Wait, is this real? Because last year, for a 0.99

00:29:15.480 very long time, you tweeted and promoted Kanye West as he was calling for genocide against

00:29:23.040 the Jews, the Jews, and you kept it up. And now, when we have victims coming here, you're 0.98

00:29:27.620 tweeting this nonsense. I don't know why you would do this. I hope you're okay. I don't

00:29:35.380 know if the aliens who are eating your ducks are in the room with us right now. But, Mr.

00:29:43.040 Chairman, this is a serious issue. These people have loved ones who have been lost. And you

00:29:49.660 tweeted this. This is a profoundly unserious person. A man actually losing his mind over

00:29:58.540 a fun meme of Donald Trump protecting ducks and cats. Not even a meme, actual photo confirmed,

00:30:05.040 fact-checked. It is actually happening. You liar. Well, yeah, exactly. Again, I shouldn't

00:30:10.180 be shocked by a man who cheats on his wife with a Chinese spy to have any integrity. All they

00:30:14.660 know how to do is lie, Connor. We know this. And then, of course, there are the incredibly

00:30:19.720 dishonest framings, as highlighted by Pagliacci, the hated, from leftists, saying that, oh, but 0.98

00:30:26.620 white rednecks go duck hunting. So what's the problem with this guy going into the local 0.98

00:30:31.740 park and breaking the neck of a goose?

00:30:36.280 Yeah, sure, you've got your duck hunting license and you've got all these regulations that you

00:30:40.380 need to stick to. But this guy went and randomly broke the neck of a potentially endangered goose.

00:30:46.880 So it's the exact same.

00:30:48.800 Okay. I know recreational duck hunters from the States. I don't get it, personally. I don't

00:30:53.660 actually eat duck just because I feel too guilty, right? But they are playing-

00:30:57.280 I wouldn't go hunting if I went to America, but I wouldn't want to shoot- 1.00

00:31:00.200 I feel like ducks, it's not fair.

00:31:02.220 Yeah.

00:31:02.520 I like ducks.

00:31:03.220 They are-

00:31:04.380 Oh, Canada geese are a protected species, apparently, as well.

00:31:06.760 Oh, there you go.

00:31:07.600 But they are playing into entire conservation ecosystem. So the money that the hunters pay

00:31:14.420 with their licenses, with the rental of equipment, that goes into conserving the natural area and

00:31:19.400 making sure the actual duck population flourishes. This is just a random third-worlder abducting 1.00

00:31:26.120 the feathered friends that kids feed in a park. There's a pretty big distinction there. If you

00:31:31.120 don't see that distinction, you're fundamentally dishonest or stupid. 1.00

00:31:33.600 Well, there's a few examples of the dishonest distinctions that could be made, but I like 0.99

00:31:38.220 the one that Pagliaggi put at the bottom, which is the equivalent would be someone getting 0.99

00:31:41.600 raped and you saying to them, well, you have sex, don't you? With the smug look on your 0.99

00:31:45.700 face. But that is essentially what's happening to America, isn't it? It's being raped. And 1.00

00:31:51.420 it's being raped by the Biden administration, and if things go the wrong way, by the potential 0.70

00:31:56.960 Kamala administration as well. So whilst the debate itself left a bit to be desired for me in

00:32:03.060 terms of pure entertainment value, these are very, very important decisions that are going to have

00:32:08.520 to be made in the coming months. So if you're going to go out and vote in America, vote wisely.

00:32:13.660 Right, before we move on, we've got some rumble rants, all pretty much pertaining to

00:32:17.140 Islander. So the Shadowbam at $10, congratulations on your second issue of Islander. Thank you very

00:32:21.300 much. Keith Kaiser, at Harry petitioned to change the Low Seasers intro song from...

00:32:27.060 Into a song from the Clayman album, even if as a one-off. You have no reference for that.

00:32:33.740 All I think is it's probably copyrighted, so we're really allowed to.

00:32:36.740 Well, no, no, no. But it would need to maybe do it in the style of the album Clayman by

00:32:40.920 Inflames, which I was actually listening to this morning on the way to work. That would

00:32:44.920 be awesome. If somebody wanted to mock that up, that would be fantastic. I don't have time

00:32:49.220 for it.

00:32:49.660 I personally think we should have made our own intro music long ago rather than just, you

00:32:53.860 know, using someone else's. But, because we've got an abundance of talent in the office.

00:32:57.220 I've done a version of it. Chris Gard sent me a version that he did for it.

00:33:03.120 I will not say what I'm thinking.

00:33:04.720 There's lots of options.

00:33:07.580 And it's just been left in a drawer somewhere, hasn't it?

00:33:10.260 I've still got it.

00:33:11.900 I'm not saying it's your fault it's been left in a drawer somewhere.

00:33:13.380 It's a version of the theme that already exists. It's the doot-doot-doots, but Chris did

00:33:19.240 his own version of it, which was a bit more impactful.

00:33:21.660 Okay, I'm sure we'll get right round to that in the next five years or so. Lady Dragon

00:33:26.260 Chris, $5. I bought Islander 2 within 10 minutes of the announcement video going up. Can't

00:33:30.220 wait to read it. Very wise choice. Good gal. 0.99

00:33:32.920 $2 from the last Russian Islander metal shirt. Looks awesome. I'm sure we'll be modelling some

00:33:37.500 of those.

00:33:38.000 Yes, I need it. I need it.

00:33:39.340 I need a sort of Jordan Peterson style emblazoned blazer to wear something like that. So maybe

00:33:44.200 for issue three, we can get one of those going.

00:33:46.100 Are you going to get your Riddler Two-Face blazers going?

00:33:49.480 Just coming dressed like a Batman villain would be good. Oh, I went to an exhibition

00:33:53.800 where they had all their suits on display. Jim Carrey's Riddler costume is as gay as 1.00

00:33:57.980 it looked on screen. 0.92

00:33:59.300 Well, how could it be anything different?

00:34:01.240 Fair point. And one more from the last Russian. Don't snack on me. Kitten, no snip on snack. 1.00

00:34:05.980 Gadsden parody of a parody. That's a very dense, but I think he's saying have a kitten.

00:34:12.080 Yeah.

00:34:12.920 That'd be a good idea, actually.

00:34:14.220 That'd be great. Don't snack on me.

00:34:15.440 Someone, we should do that as a t-shirt. That'd be good, actually. That's not a bad

00:34:19.500 idea. Get Rory on that right now. 1.00

00:34:21.040 Yep. Samson, feed it back to Rory. Good man. Jamie, pull it up. And Bald Eagle for $2. I

00:34:26.060 love the moderator said there was no official stories on the Haitians eating animals and

00:34:29.120 pets. The local government are going to ignore all complaints because it's embarrassing for

00:34:32.360 them. They're also police reports, so they are official. So, okay, but whatever. Anyway.

00:34:37.280 Well, everyone, we often hear how the law is supposedly on our side. I think we sort of

00:34:43.500 comfort ourselves with that any time that you get arrested for a meme. Eventually, there are

00:34:48.860 champions of our rights and liberties, like ADF International, the Free Speech Union, who say,

00:34:55.520 don't worry, we will win out in the end. And they have some important legal cases. But even if

00:35:00.740 you do appeal to the tools of the enemy, like the Human Rights Act, the ECHR, or the Equality Act,

00:35:05.540 even if they do net us some wins, like realising biological sex or trying to reduce the number

00:35:11.020 of thought crimes recorded by the police, what matters less than the letter of the law, it turns

00:35:15.800 out, is who is applying the law. And so we'll be going through some new examples today just to show

00:35:19.980 you how much the state hates you. That's basically our job over here at LowersEats.com. The other job

00:35:25.100 we have is producing amazing things like Islander Magazine. If you read the first issue, well done,

00:35:29.680 you're a man of culture, I see. If you missed out on that, we have now issue two that are...

00:35:35.540 Our intrepid editor, Rory, has been working on diligently, sweating away, doing all the art,

00:35:40.160 getting all of the articles together. He has been sweating. He stinks.

00:35:42.600 Yeah, he honks. He reeks. That mullet is just dripping. Anyway, we have essays. We have more 1.00

00:35:47.760 essays this time around. We have essays from Carl. We have essays from Rory Nationalists and Niva

00:35:51.820 Parvini. We also have new writers like Dave Green and Stefan Molyneux. So if you are curious about what

00:35:57.540 they've written for this Apocalypse Edition, you can go and pick it up for £14.99. Same price as last

00:36:01.960 time, but more for your money. And because we listened to your feedback, this time we are

00:36:05.700 printing in batches rather than pre-ordering. So it should mean that as soon as you order,

00:36:09.480 links are down in the description, you should get it within two to three weeks. So long as

00:36:12.680 whatever country you live in doesn't try and stop you from getting the gloriousness of

00:36:16.620 Islander at the border. We also have lots of new merch. This is back there and I pressed

00:36:21.600 the wrong button, didn't I? There it is. The new merch, which is all of these wonderful

00:36:25.520 design t-shirts. They're also limited edition. So as soon as Islander 2 goes out of print,

00:36:29.880 in how many weeks is that? Do we know?

00:36:38.900 Okay, four or five weeks. So in about a month or so, this is no longer going to be available.

00:36:43.920 So quickly, rush down to the shop. By the way, I wasn't listening to the voices in my

00:36:46.960 head. It was my producer. I'm sane. I promise. Anyway, let's quickly move on. First example

00:36:50.880 of this. Some bloke sent Jess Phillips a death threat. I think this is a good example to contrast

00:36:56.900 the two tiers of justice in the UK. So we're glad that this man, Nabil Arif, I'm sure she'll

00:37:03.080 say he's just a man, a man of nondescript identity from no particular location whatsoever, moving

00:37:09.440 swiftly on. And we're glad Nabil Arif has been jailed. He's only been sentenced to 12 weeks.

00:37:15.500 He sent Phillips some abusive messages, beginning from the Israel-Gaza war in October 2023. In one

00:37:21.580 message, he told Jess Phillips, hell is real and you will burn. And in the last email, he said that

00:37:26.760 he will burn her till her skin is no more. I mean, that's disgusting. It's a death threat. He should 0.99

00:37:31.480 get far longer than that. I think we all agree. The Crown Prosecution Service said he was sentenced

00:37:36.460 to only 12 weeks after a court, after a trial at the same court on the 29th of July. And he's made

00:37:42.560 the subject of a restraining order. So he shouldn't ever contact Phillips again. Curiously though,

00:37:46.860 and I want to note this, at the bottom of this article, they include some details about the

00:37:50.200 Israel-Hamas war. They say 1,200 people were killed in Hamas's October the 7th assault,

00:37:54.620 close to 41,000 people were killed, according to the health-run ministry in the Hamas-run

00:37:59.000 territory. So Guardian just dropped that in at the end of the article there, almost as like

00:38:03.440 an excuse for why he was making those claims. To contextualise it. So see how this is treated,

00:38:09.060 both by the Crown Prosecution Service and the Labour-friendly press, because... The Guardian

00:38:13.580 basically hinting, well, she was kind of asking for it. Yeah, quite. Because, contrast this with

00:38:18.760 the Guardian's reporting on this woman. This is Julie Sweeney, for those who don't remember,

00:38:23.380 of Church Lawton, Cheshire. She pled guilty at Chester Crown Court to sending a communication

00:38:27.660 to convey a threat of death or serious harm. She was jailed for about two years, and she said

00:38:33.300 something that is far less a direct threat, still very inadvisable, don't do it, it's silly,

00:38:37.700 but far less a direct threat than what the prior gentleman decided to say. So she was part of a

00:38:42.860 Facebook community group with 5,100 members, responding to a photograph that showed a number

00:38:47.040 of white and Asian people involved in cleaning up after Southport. She posted,

00:38:51.140 it's absolutely ridiculous, don't protect the mosques, and she said this, not me, 0.98

00:38:55.040 blow the mosque up with the adults in it. Again, that's a bit extreme. Stupid. Disavow. 1.00

00:38:59.940 Was she with the imminent ability of doing that? No. Was the other fella more likely to be able to do 0.97

00:39:06.380 that to Jess Phillips? Certainly. We know this because in Jess Phillips' own constituency,

00:39:10.860 there were masked Muslims that were armed, attacking pubs and publicans, occupying a roundabout and

00:39:17.740 threatening people in cars, which Jess Phillips herself tried to obfuscate for, by the way.

00:39:21.820 And so the sentencing judge, Stephen Everett, jailed her for 15 months, so a bit over a year

00:39:26.660 and a half. No, sorry, just under a year and a half. Telling her, you should have been looking

00:39:30.660 at the news and media with horror like every right-minded person. Instead, you chose to take

00:39:34.340 part in stirring up hatred. You had a big audience. You threatened a mosque. It was a truly terrible

00:39:38.040 threat. So it's not enough to tell this woman that what she posted was incitements of violence.

00:39:43.740 He had to give her a little moral beating as well. Tell her that here's how you're supposed to think.

00:39:50.920 I know that this will be reported in the newspapers, so I'm going to signal to everybody reading

00:39:55.560 how they should feel about things. Well, he says here, so-called keyboard warriors have to learn

00:40:00.820 to take responsibility for their language, particularly in the context of the disorder

00:40:04.540 that was going on around the country. Remember that phrase. The context of what's going on

00:40:08.660 broadly, more politically, influences the justice system. That is the point they're making. 0.51

00:40:13.080 Well, and it's also important to remember that when judges make statements like this,

00:40:17.360 they're not making them for the person that they're sentencing. They're making them

00:40:20.720 for the newspapers to report on so everybody can read what you're supposed to do.

00:40:24.940 And to set precedent in law for future cases. That's an important thing.

00:40:28.680 Also, important to note for the Guardian, notice something missing at the bottom of this article.

00:40:35.020 Ah, it's context about the Southport Massacre that would have otherwise explained why Sweeney

00:40:40.660 was so angry, unlike the prior article that ends with details about Gaza, from the Hamas-run

00:40:47.020 health agency as well, very reputable, that tries to contextualise why Arif sent Jess Phillips'

00:40:51.580 reprehensible death threat. So, again, two-tier reporting, two-tier justice system.

00:40:56.100 So, speaking of the right to protest, Policy Exchange. Have a report out on the pro-Palestine 0.89

00:41:00.700 protests. You can go and download the publication in your own time, give it a read if you have the

00:41:04.640 time to read a 150-page report. I wanted to pull out some findings from this because we can see here

00:41:09.800 that the attempt to ameliorate the justice system and the police and the Crown Prosecution

00:41:16.000 Service by principles and legislation and a mandate to duly, impartially carry out the law

00:41:23.800 is just going to end up giving them over more powers to prosecute people like us. So, it's

00:41:28.720 not encouraging. So, there's some things in here and it says, first of all, it goes into the costs

00:41:33.260 associated with importing this kind of ethno-religious tension that we saw on the pro-Palestine

00:41:37.780 protests. The Met Police state the costs of policing the Palestine protests in London between

00:41:41.880 October 2023 and June 2024 were £42.9 million, with 51,799 Metropolitan Police officers shifts

00:41:50.800 and 9,639 Police officer shifts from officers usually based outside the Metropolitan Police

00:41:56.220 area. The 6,339 police officers had rest days cancelled between October and April 2024, all

00:42:03.560 of which were to be repaid in due course. Bear in mind, as we've covered repeatedly on this

00:42:07.560 podcast, the exact kind of population to go on these pro-Palestine protests are not net tax

00:42:12.420 contributors. So, they are frustrating our capital city every weekend and Wednesday. So, this is even

00:42:15.620 more of a drain. Exactly. So, these people are costing us money anyway, and now they're costing us

00:42:20.140 extra money to agitate for a foreign war on behalf of the prescribed terror group. Bear in mind, this

00:42:25.880 happened in the aftermath of October the 7th, not in the aftermath of Israel's response to the

00:42:29.820 October the 7th. So, it was a celebration of what Hamas has done, not a complaint about how Israel

00:42:34.140 responded. The same population as well, same host population paying for it, don't want to visit

00:42:39.880 their own capital city during these protests. As a Londoner, I can agree. Polling was conducted by

00:42:43.820 Policy Exchange, and it showed members of the public choosing not to engage in a wide range of

00:42:47.620 activities because of these protests. They dropped their plans to travel with small children, 71%,

00:42:52.620 travel with an elderly or mobility-impaired friend or relative, 69%, visit a tourist attraction,

00:42:57.280 62%, go shopping, 58%, and eat at a specific restaurant, 58%. So, more costs, economic, but also

00:43:03.440 cultural, spiritual, if the host population are being demoralized and chased out of their own

00:43:07.600 capital city. Oh yeah, I can speak from my own personal experience. I've not been to London in

00:43:12.400 at the very least over a year, and I have no intention to go back if I can avoid it.

00:43:17.600 Why would I go there? It feels like navigating the rubble of the Tower of Babel at this point.

00:43:22.060 It's really unpleasant. It's smelly, it's busy, it's expensive. I want to get out as quickly as

00:43:26.720 possible. The main headline that came out of this report that everyone was reporting on,

00:43:29.560 they did an interview with Assistant Commissioner to the Metropolitan Police, Matt Twist, and he said

00:43:35.680 the following. When we look back at the policing of protests over the last eight months, we know we

00:43:40.100 didn't get everything right, particularly in the early stages of October. We've developed our tactics

00:43:44.160 since then, becoming faster and more decisive. On an occasion, we did not move quickly to make

00:43:48.860 arrests. For example, the man chanting for jihad, which was a decision made following fast time advice 0.72

00:43:54.500 from lawyers and the CPS. So guidance provided by the 700-strong Muslim activist network in the

00:44:00.620 Home Office and pro-immigration lawyers, which usually have an ethnic and religious bias, are

00:44:06.080 advising the Met not to crack down on people chanting for intifad and jihad. I wonder why.

00:44:11.840 He said,

00:44:12.200 We are now much more focused on identifying reasonable grounds for arrest, acting where

00:44:16.200 needed, and then investigating, so in these circumstances, it's very likely arrests would

00:44:20.060 be made more quickly now. Oh, it's very likely arrests would be made more quickly now in the

00:44:24.380 aftermath of another set of protests, which were the indigenous population protesting, and

00:44:29.760 so now you're going to get much harder on it. Isn't that fascinating? I wonder if anyone

00:44:35.480 from the post-Southport protests, or one of Mr. Robinson's rallies, not you, other one,

00:44:41.400 would have chanted, from the channel to the Irish Sea, Britain will be free. They'd be locked up in

00:44:46.320 handcuffs, but not the other way around. Got it. Also, an important detail that they find here.

00:44:51.600 So, in order to stage a protest in Britain, you have to give the authorities six days warning,

00:44:55.740 if you want to do a large-scale march. The Palestine Solidarity Campaign contacted the

00:44:59.960 Metropolitan Police to inform them of their intention to conduct their first mass Palestine protest,

00:45:04.680 ten hours after the terrorist attack on October 7th. Right. So, not protesting the gross injustices

00:45:13.960 by the Israeli regime, just open ethno-religious solidarity and celebrating murders? Why were any

00:45:21.640 of these allowed? Letter of the law could have stopped at any time, but it doesn't. That's most

00:45:27.240 important. So, the recommended response was that the government should legislate to establish a

00:45:32.000 protest commission for London. A protest commission for London. Involving independent

00:45:37.840 commissioners. Independent, as we always know, there is no such thing. There's no such thing as

00:45:42.440 a neutral process. It's always political. Appointed by the Home Secretary, following consultation with

00:45:47.300 the Mayor of London. Independent, appointed by the Labour Home Secretary and the Labour Mayor of London,

00:45:53.400 both of whom endorsed and oversaw the protests. Great suggestion. The government should amend

00:45:58.880 Section 11 of the Public Order Act 1986 to increase the notification period for all protest marches

00:46:03.420 to 28 days. But they'll just step over that if they want to. They'll let the ones they like go

00:46:09.360 ahead and they'll ban the ones they don't like, which they do anyway. The government should legislate

00:46:13.220 to require the police forces must take action to prevent the interference by protesters with the

00:46:17.580 operation of those installations of facilities classified as key national infrastructure and expand the

00:46:23.040 definition of national infrastructure under the Public Order Act 2023 to include Parliament,

00:46:27.500 government departments, and the courts. So they're anticipating some sort of physical attack on

00:46:35.580 government, parliaments, and the courts? Because the only thing I can think of in recent memory was

00:46:39.320 the protest outside the ceasefire debate where they projected from the river to the sea on Big Ben,

00:46:43.820 but they knew where the projector was, Martin Daubley pointed out, and the Met Police just shrugged

00:46:47.180 their shoulders and didn't arrest anyone, didn't even turn it off. So again, choices were made here.

00:46:51.600 They could have done it at any time. They also should make it unlawful for individuals at

00:46:55.960 protest to wear face coverings. So a couple of years after mandating them, they're now going to

00:47:00.680 make them illegal. Again, I would feel, I don't like face coverings, but I would feel comfortable

00:47:06.180 with people wearing face coverings if they weren't a demographic more likely to commit violence

00:47:11.700 against me for ideological or impulse control reasons. Sadiq Khan should also apparently conduct

00:47:16.300 an equality impact of the protests on businesses, tourism, and threats to women, the disabled,

00:47:20.700 and the elderly, which I'm sure he'll do completely impartially, just as he did with you, Les.

00:47:24.080 The Commissioner of the Met Police must take all possible steps to ensure all those that

00:47:28.740 are suspected of committing criminal offences at protests are arrested at the time of the

00:47:32.680 offence. So the police should do their jobs. That's an actual recommendation in a policy

00:47:37.880 report in Modern Britain.

00:47:39.680 As well, we saw with the Southport riots and protests that went on that the Metropolitan Police

00:47:45.640 will just hoover up anybody if they feel like it, depending on the cause of the protest in

00:47:50.720 the first place. Yes, but if it inflames community tensions at Notting Hill Carnival or the Palestine

00:47:55.380 riots, they'll let people go and sort of lazily try and track them down comfortably from their

00:48:00.740 desk with a cup of tea and a packet of biscuits afterwards. And maybe they might perform some

00:48:04.660 arrests. And even then they'll say, oh, a small minority were ruining it for the rest of us.

00:48:09.060 How could they? There's also this reminder, right? Providing the executive summary.

00:48:13.400 Central to these events is the claim of a right to protest, despite there being no such explicit

00:48:19.480 and unfettered right within the ECHR or the Human Rights Act 1998. Instead of a right to protest,

00:48:26.120 the following articles are allowing people to protest. Article 11, right to freedom of peaceful

00:48:32.140 assembly and association. And Article 10, the right to freedom of expression. Both rights are

00:48:36.460 explicitly qualified by restrictions as prescribed by law and unnecessary in a democratic society,

00:48:41.840 among other things, in the interest of national security or public safety, for the prevention of

00:48:46.460 disorder and crime, protection of health and morals, protection of the rights of others, etc., etc.

00:48:50.660 So all of these are nebulous definitions, and they just allow the state to pretend that they're

00:48:56.360 ratifying and making impartial decisions on human rights, and instead punish their political enemies

00:49:01.100 and favour their political friends. And the perfect example of this is the recommendation in here that

00:49:05.320 the Crown Prosecution Service must amend its legal guidance on offences during protests,

00:49:09.220 demonstrations or campaigns, to reduce the likelihood of suspects not being prosecuted for

00:49:13.780 public interest reasons. That's literally what the judge said in Sweeney's case, that we're going

00:49:18.540 to teach you keyboard warriors a lesson. None of that was said about Arif, even though we had the

00:49:23.740 Palestine marches and we had those armed Muslims in Jess Phillips' own constituency. There wasn't a need 1.00

00:49:29.360 to talk about democratic principles or a chilling effect there. Just give him a few weeks, a few months

00:49:35.580 in prison and keep him shut up about it. Again, this is what I found, I remembered this, you

00:49:41.480 tweet this out a while ago, this is your law, Harry's law in effect. You tweet it out, no matter

00:49:46.160 its intended foreign target, anti-terrorist technology and intelligence departments will

00:49:50.120 be inevitably used to spy on and imprison white European populations. This is exactly that. 0.94

00:49:55.260 Well, if the purpose of a system is what it does, then the purpose of the UK government is to

00:49:59.040 punish the British people. 0.99

00:50:00.940 Quite, yes. Perfect example of this is the Equality Act.

00:50:03.360 The Equality Act that people keep saying we need to appeal to, to get gender critical

00:50:07.240 wins, for example. This chap, Mr. S. Thomas. Bear in mind, he does use social media like

00:50:13.320 a boomer in here, so I will point that out. He went to an employment tribunal about the

00:50:17.860 NHS, claiming that he, as a contractor, had been discriminated against for his English

00:50:24.020 nationalist views. So the point of the Equality Act is it's meant to protect certain

00:50:29.840 characteristics, as in the government's favoured ones, and certain beliefs from discrimination

00:50:35.240 in employment. So, for example, it's intersectionality codified in law. You can obviously actively,

00:50:42.160 positively discriminate against white, straight Christian men, but you can't discriminate against 0.95

00:50:47.140 black women, for example. The recent win that we supposedly got was the Meyer-Folstater

00:50:51.300 case, where gender critical, aka believing in biological sex, beliefs are now protected characteristic

00:50:56.860 under the Equality Act. But this just shows that even if you try and appeal to the Equality

00:51:00.300 Act to get wins, they will just selectively apply it, if and where. Because this chap,

00:51:05.520 the judge ruled, said,

00:51:07.060 By the end of the hearing, Employment Judge Hyde considered the third question from the list

00:51:11.300 of issues was more properly posed as,

00:51:14.900 Were his anti-Islamic views worthy of respect and democratic society, incompatible with human

00:51:21.360 dignity, and did they conflict with the fundamental rights of others, such that they would prevent

00:51:25.120 the claimant's belief in English nationalism from being a protected characteristic, aka, did they

00:51:29.420 offend Muslims, therefore, can we fire him from his job? And they say, to the claimant,

00:51:35.160 And he identifies his views. So the claimant, English nationalism is the nationalism that

00:51:39.140 asserts the English are a nation and promotes, bless you, the cultural unity of English people,

00:51:44.080 the claimant's focus is on national identity which does not depend on ancestry or race rather

00:51:48.000 than common descent or race. So he's very boomer, civic nationalism, England is a set of values,

00:51:54.960 ideals, and even that is too far gone for the Equality Act. So he's not even arguing for

00:52:01.200 protection on the basis of ethnicity or racial identity, he's arguing for the protection on the

00:52:04.740 basis of values, and even then, they're making the discrimination against which values are

00:52:08.320 preferred by the state, versus which values are prescribed by the state. 0.82

00:52:11.660 Yeah, they're saying, sorry mate, Britain is gay race communism values.

00:52:15.040 Exactly. So the decision was this.

00:52:17.360 Judge Hyde observed in cross-examination before the Leeds Employment Tribunal,

00:52:20.580 the claimant has said that Islam in its current form should be banned from England unless it were

00:52:24.120 anglicised and toned down to fit within society in England. So even then he's being quite generous.

00:52:29.400 Employment Judge Hyde commented at the hearing before her,

00:52:32.020 the claimant did not dispute these comments were consistent with his English nationalism.

00:52:35.560 The claimant alleged his assignment within the NHS trust had been terminated because of his

00:52:39.680 belief in English nationalism. He claimed this was belief discriminatory contrary to the Equality

00:52:44.120 Act 2010. At a hearing, the Employment Tribunal held the claimant's belief was not protected by

00:52:49.580 the Equality Act. The claimant appealed this decision. The appeal is dismissed. The claimant's

00:52:54.360 views are of an English nationalism which believes there is no place in British society for Muslims or

00:52:58.260 Islam itself. Among the claimant's views are that the Muslims should be forcibly deported from the 0.74

00:53:02.300 United Kingdom. These views are not capable of protection under the European Convention on

00:53:06.280 Human Rights as they would offend Article 17 which provides that nothing in this convention may be

00:53:11.040 interpreted as implying for any state group or person to engage in any activity or perform any act

00:53:18.440 aimed at the destruction of any rights and freedoms set forth herein at the limitation to a greater

00:53:23.300 extent that's provided in the convention. The claimant has not prevented from holding his views,

00:53:27.660 but he is outside of the right to complain that he has been discriminated against in relation to

00:53:31.620 those beliefs in the circumstances covered by the EQA. It's obvious that he's been discriminated

00:53:36.380 against on the grounds of his belief because this is happening in the judgment. And so what the

00:53:41.440 Equality Act exists to do is designate certain beliefs and certain characteristics above certain

00:53:46.900 others and afford them certain legal protections over the indigenous host population. And I don't 1.00

00:53:53.640 necessarily want to use the Equality Act for any of this. I would rather the entire thing were

00:53:56.460 scrapped, but the point matters that who applies the law matters less than the consistent letter of

00:54:01.860 the law. And here's a great example. Um, Mel B and some Labour politician for Birmingham Erdington,

00:54:09.300 Paulette Hamilton MP, are trying to bring forth an amendment to protect Afro hair under the Equality Act.

00:54:15.140 No. If it was up to me, no. I mean, again, we'd scrap the whole thing if it was up to me,

00:54:23.140 but this is frivolous.

00:54:24.540 Yeah, well, you're in a joke of a country, so actually, um, our favourite independent journalist,

00:54:27.880 Kandi Drucker, has given us a vision of the future. Uh, you're under arrest for describing a mixed-race 1.00

00:54:32.000 woman's hair as frizzy without an Afro hair ally licence, which is a serious crime. It's all in here, 1.00

00:54:36.800 mate. You're going away for a long time. Makes me sick there are people like you walking the streets.

00:54:40.340 Well, not for much longer. You think I'm joking? Yeah, I mean, this is, I've seen him post a few

00:54:46.440 of these with this particular gentleman, uh, this particular officer holding up a variety of books,

00:54:51.880 the, um, Second Treatise on Government. Second Sex was one of them. Uh, the, the Second Sex, um, 0.97

00:54:57.680 Vindication of the Rights of Women. It's all in here, mate. It's all in here. This is why we're 0.98

00:55:02.360 doing this. Set text by the College of Policing. Now, look, I'll wrap this up because, um, you think I'm

00:55:06.260 joking. I wish. I wish we weren't a joke of a country because this actually could be possible because

00:55:10.160 Yvette Cooper is bringing back non-crime hate incidents. And we say bringing back because

00:55:14.820 for end of the show, Harry Miller in 2021 took the College of Policing to court and it was ruled

00:55:19.460 that the way they were recording these non-crime hate incidents was unlawful. They were giving you

00:55:23.260 a black mark on your DBS check, not informing you of who had made the claim, what evidence the claim

00:55:27.860 was, and if you had a claim against you. And so you could be turned down for jobs without ever

00:55:31.060 knowing why. And because there's no evidentiary standard, the people that were making the claim

00:55:35.160 were treated automatically as the victims and you as perpetrators, even though they're not

00:55:39.380 crimes. He had found that between 2014, when these were adopted as a result of the McPherson

00:55:45.320 report and 2020, over 120,000 of these have been recorded. We now estimate 250,000 of these

00:55:53.140 have been recorded. And despite Suella Braveman in 2023 putting in the Police Crime Sentencing 1.00

00:55:59.340 and Courts Bill, new legislation and guidance being given to the College of Policing to stop

00:56:04.860 recording these for frivolous reasons, they went up last year. The law does not matter.

00:56:11.500 30 of the 43 police forces in England and Wales increased the number of non-crime hate incidents

00:56:16.320 they recorded. So, I just want to reiterate for everyone, and you can find out more about

00:56:21.500 these stats in a recent episode of my show that I did there, I broke it down for an hour

00:56:24.520 and a half, it's very laborious, but hopefully a useful resource. The point of this segment is

00:56:28.860 to reiterate, as Thomas Hobbes once said, autoritas non veritas facit legem. Authority,

00:56:35.180 not truth, makes law. And the people applying the law are the authority. That matters more

00:56:41.380 than its letter. It's not on our side.

00:56:45.320 That was a fun one.

00:56:46.840 Apologies. I think sometimes we just have to sort of catalogue these events.

00:56:50.260 Well, no, that's absolutely fair. We can provide a sort of resource for anybody who's looking

00:56:55.340 to see what's going on in the country. We have one more rumble rant before we move on to the

00:57:00.140 next segment. Keith Kaiser, live news at the moment, Keir Starmer is under fire for not providing

00:57:05.280 any stats about how cutting winter fuel payments would help the economy. It seems to be an attack

00:57:08.900 on Tory voters' thoughts. I was speaking to a senior political source earlier in the week,

00:57:15.280 and they explained to me the reason he's actually doing this is because the OBR and the Bank of

00:57:19.200 England work together to say that there are certain things you cannot touch because we have

00:57:24.740 existing spending commitments that are Acts of Parliament. So for example, everyone's hitting

00:57:29.520 him for the foreign aid budget, quite rightly so. That's where all the climate spending is coming

00:57:32.780 from. That's where all of the first year of refugee, asylum seeker, illegal migrant payments are coming

00:57:38.780 from. They're all coming out of the foreign aid budget. The foreign aid budget is set by an Act of

00:57:42.300 Parliament, so it would take him two years to repeal that. If he needs to make savings now, the only

00:57:46.700 place the OBR have told him he can do it is in public spending, but he's just giving loads of money to the

00:57:51.340 unions or pensions. So he's making cuts with the winter fuel payment, and he thinks that he can

00:57:55.820 weather the bad PR storm in the short run. I think this is a bad call.

00:58:01.100 This whole bad PR storm in the short run, his entire Prime Ministerial career so far has been

00:58:09.700 a bad PR storm. So the fact that he still turns around and goes, I've made every wrong decision,

00:58:16.980 I've stepped on every landmine, what's one bad decision, what's one landmine more?

00:58:23.340 He's just sideshow Bob in the rake circle.

00:58:25.080 Yeah, this man is going to go down as the most unpopular Prime Minister of all time, and rightly

00:58:31.120 so, and somehow he's managed to achieve it within months of having taken over from the most unpopular

00:58:36.740 Tory regime of all time. I mean, it's ridiculous. They really should just start handing out big shoes 0.97

00:58:43.700 and red noses when they step into Parliament, shouldn't they, these days?

00:58:47.720 Well, I think you can tell Tony Blair is very displeased as well, because he keeps coming out

00:58:50.940 actively counter-signalling everything that Starmer's doing.

00:58:53.740 Tony Blair basically came out recently and said, why aren't we sending them home?

00:58:58.040 Well, I think that was a sort of Hobson's choice to reopen free movement with the EU.

00:59:03.500 But he was right. What benefit having large dependent Asian and African families imported into Britain 1.00

00:59:09.020 to the native population?

00:59:10.100 Well, the thing that he contrasted the idea of the free EU movement was, well, yeah, we

00:59:15.240 had single people from Eastern Europe coming over, which I don't think is true. Purely

00:59:21.120 true. But he contrasted it with the, why do we have all of these people basically saying,

00:59:25.720 switch it back to how I was doing it, they have to go home.

00:59:28.820 Yeah, we can contain it that way.

00:59:29.740 Tony Blair staring down from a balcony at a Notting Hill carnival, sneering, we need to

00:59:35.180 send them back.

00:59:35.960 Just following Steve Laws.

00:59:37.460 We've got two more quickly.

00:59:38.580 We've got a seven point plan here, says Tony Blair.

00:59:41.260 So $5 from Eiffenheimer, I hope I pronounced that right. I didn't, I'm sure. E-E-F-A in

00:59:48.860 English. I'm not sure what that means.

00:59:50.220 I'll Google it.

00:59:50.800 We had a pro-Palestine peaceful protest in Melbourne, Australia yesterday. They threw chairs,

00:59:56.200 crates, and horse excrement at our mounted police. Our police arrested the lot of them.

01:00:00.540 Well, I'm glad at least the police are operating in some competent fashion. It's just a shame they

01:00:05.420 learn those tactics from lockdown when they weaponize that against the native population.

01:00:08.680 And one from Threadnought.

01:00:09.740 Oh, oh, it's, uh, it's, um, I think explaining how to pronounce the name.

01:00:15.200 Oh, E-F-A in English.

01:00:16.920 It's a Welsh name.

01:00:17.640 I apologize. I, I'm stupid. Uh, Threadnought, $5. Damn you. And he calls me Colin, but it's 0.95

01:00:23.820 Connor. Um, I was going to point out- I don't know why they've started calling you Colin

01:00:27.760 recently.

01:00:28.820 No, it's a bit of a dead meme. I was going to point out Stammer as, he doesn't Stammer,

01:00:33.500 um, mimicry of Sideshow Bob. No, he's, he's so robotic. He doesn't actually trip over his

01:00:37.860 words. He just like recites whatever script has been fed to him.

01:00:40.540 I've seen him trip over his words a few times. But anyway, thank you very much for those

01:00:45.240 rumble rants. Let's get into this last segment, which is about the death of the Internet Archive

01:00:50.400 and its massive online library, at least certainly the destruction of a massive portion of that

01:00:56.280 library. And I've got to be honest, I might upset a few people, uh, with this segment because

01:01:01.160 I'm not going to be entirely on the Internet Archive side as a company, as an organization.

01:01:06.580 I think the resources that they had compiled as part of their online library, which allowed

01:01:11.820 you to check out books for free online as if you were going to a library and had a massive

01:01:17.160 wealth of out of print and difficult to find books that you could get for free, uh, was

01:01:23.760 really fantastic. I've used it a lot of times, but as a company, um, they're shit libs and 1.00

01:01:30.180 I'm not going to defend them for that. 0.82

01:01:32.040 Wasn't one of them related to Taylor Lorenz and tried to retroactively edit the Archive

01:01:38.100 link where they doxed libs of TikTok?

01:01:40.420 That might be the case. I don't recall exactly, but I remember it being reported at the time.

01:01:45.120 And so, um, I'm not going to confirm it, but nor will I, uh, deny it.

01:01:48.700 Check us in the comments.

01:01:50.080 Yes. Uh, first though, uh, one thing that will be very limited run and out of print soon

01:01:56.000 will be issue two of Islander, which I know that we've only just announced, but it is a

01:02:00.100 limited run for a reason. When we say limited, we mean limited. This is going to be your only

01:02:05.520 opportunity for the next month or so to get a hold of a copy of this. If you order it now,

01:02:10.680 it'll be printed to order and you'll have it within about two to three weeks. Got excellent

01:02:15.000 articles all written by a wealth of authors, some returning from the first issue like Dr.

01:02:20.060 Nima Parvini, Carl Benjamin, and others with some newbies, including Dave Green, the distributist,

01:02:26.020 Stefan Molyneux, and more. And also along with that, we've got the merchandise that's come

01:02:31.420 along with it. So you can get a hold of that. You can get a mug, you can get a shirt, or you

01:02:36.300 can get the awesome shirt, the best shirt, but don't buy too many of those. Cause I'm going

01:02:41.000 to get one.

01:02:41.440 I'm not replacing my mug with one of those, but they are wonderful mugs.

01:02:44.320 Yes, they are wonderful mugs. They're just not gay enough for Connor. 1.00

01:02:50.600 I got a little giggle out of Samson. Anyway, uh, so let's look at what's been happening 0.97

01:02:55.680 here. So what's happened is the internet archive was being sued by a large, uh, conglomeration

01:03:02.000 of different publishing companies, including companies like, uh, I think it was, um, Hatchet

01:03:08.280 House. I'll, I'll go through the articles in fact, and just confirm before I start to

01:03:11.720 make a fool of myself any more than I already do on this show. Uh, so it says in here that,

01:03:16.920 uh, libraries across the country temporarily closed in the early days of the pandemic.

01:03:20.860 The internet archive had the idea to make its library of scanned books free to read

01:03:25.540 in an online database. They already had this library, which is made up of books that have

01:03:29.820 been legally purchased and then scanned and submitted to the website. Um, they already

01:03:35.020 had that, but they had a very particular system involved in it, which is explained a bit better

01:03:39.700 in the next link over. So I'll save it till then. The question of the library's legality

01:03:43.580 became a long running saga that may have finally ended on last Wednesday when an appeals court

01:03:48.020 affirmed that the internet archive violated copyright laws by redistributing these books

01:03:52.620 without a licensing agreement. The decision by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second

01:03:56.860 Circuit in Manhattan is a victory for the major book publishers that brought the lawsuit in

01:04:01.140 2020 and could set a precedent over the lawfulness of broader digital archives. The defendant attempted

01:04:07.020 to do what no one had done before, said Maria A. Pallant, president of the Association of

01:04:11.400 American Publishers, which helped coordinate the industry response. They said, uh, she said,

01:04:16.060 they were trying to call unauthorized distribution of entire books, lending without permission.

01:04:21.100 Obviously, we're delighted with this new decision. So the federal court had ruled against them in

01:04:26.040 March 2023, and then they'd appealed. Uh, that, uh, court ruling against them meant that they had to

01:04:31.440 remove a lot of books from the library that were on there, half a million. In fact, in its appeal,

01:04:37.380 the non-profit argued that its free digital library was protected by so-called fair use laws,

01:04:43.580 and that scanning the books was a transformative use of the material done in the public interest,

01:04:50.280 and the court rejected that claim. And I know that this whole thing is a shame. I think the

01:04:54.780 Internet Archive is a really great resource for people, anybody online, not just for the library

01:05:00.100 that they use, but for the archiving of old digital web pages as well. Um, given that a lot of that gets

01:05:05.600 lost to history, sometimes it's really good to be able to archive this stuff so that you can keep

01:05:10.380 track of it, but that's an awful argument. It shows a clear lack of understanding of how copyright law

01:05:18.600 works if you say that scanning the book and then printing it online is somehow transformative.

01:05:25.120 The whole point of transformative is that it doesn't occupy the same use that the original did.

01:05:30.820 That's like, if I snuck a phone into a movie theater, recorded it on my phone, and then posted

01:05:34.980 the whole thing online, I could argue it's a transformative work because the quality is

01:05:38.540 worse because I'm recording it on a phone.

01:05:41.780 I mean, it's...

01:05:43.200 It's goofy.

01:05:44.020 You're welcome to try the argument, but it won't work.

01:05:46.420 Yeah, I don't think it's possible.

01:05:47.320 It won't work just like it didn't here. Um, so I do think that the entire line of argument

01:05:51.720 that they were going down there was, at best, an arse pull. Very clearly. 0.97

01:05:56.200 They carry on to say that, uh, to construe the Internet Archive's use of the works as transformative

01:06:00.240 would significantly narrow, if not entirely eviscerate, copyright owners' exclusive right

01:06:04.420 to prepare derivative works. We were, if, uh, and then it goes on to say, uh, if we were

01:06:11.380 to approve the Internet Archive's use of the works, there would be little to no reason for

01:06:15.340 consumers or libraries to pay publishers for content they could access for free on the

01:06:19.520 website. So, basically just saying, you would eliminate the entire profit part of the publishing

01:06:26.140 market if we were to allow this decision to go through. Because all of a sudden, you could

01:06:31.040 just scan books online anytime and they would be legally available for free for everyone.

01:06:38.280 Forever.

01:06:39.220 In a petition to publishers to reverse the lower court's decision, the Internet Archive said

01:06:42.680 it had removed over half a million books from its public archive. Unlike traditional libraries

01:06:47.000 which pay licensing fees to publishers to make their books available for lending, the Internet

01:06:50.920 Archive acquires copies through donated or purchased books to scan and put online. The non-profit

01:06:55.600 is also known for Wayback Machine, a popular database of past webpages. There's a bit more

01:06:59.540 of an explanation in here that I'll quickly go over. So, the open library lets patrons check

01:07:05.960 out books for a limited amount of time. The library only has as many digital versions as

01:07:11.140 it has physical copies. A system called controlled digital lending. Whether they're housed at the

01:07:15.860 Internet Archive's own facilities or in the shelves of its 130 plus partner libraries across

01:07:20.500 the US, each of these books was legitimately purchased from publishers. As the electronic

01:07:25.580 Frontier Foundation, part of IA's defense team, wrote in a statement,

01:07:29.440 libraries have paid publishers billions of dollars for the books in their print collections

01:07:32.600 and are investing enormous resources in digitizing in order to preserve those texts.

01:07:38.060 In March 2020, as COVID-19 spread, the Internet Archive moved to temporarily allow an unlimited

01:07:44.020 number of people to access the same copies. A project called the National Emergency Library

01:07:48.500 that aimed to provide lockdown-bound students and professionals unable to access physical libraries

01:07:52.880 at least some of the resources that they needed to do their work. So, they opened it up in a way that

01:07:57.140 meant it wasn't like a library and just as many people as wanted could get these books, which seemed

01:08:01.580 to be what attracted the attention of this big conglomeration of different publishers.

01:08:06.640 Then, in June 2020, publishers Hatchet, HarperCollins, Penguin Random House, and Wiley filed the lawsuit for the

01:08:12.380 infringement of their copyrights of 127 works. Publishers claimed that as long as readers could

01:08:18.340 be patrons of a free digital library, their physical and e-book sales could suffer. The Internet Archive

01:08:22.780 actually brought in experts who conducted studies that found that the closure of the National

01:08:26.960 Emergency Library did not affect publishers' sales of physical copies and e-books. In fact, it

01:08:31.220 apparently, according to this study, decreased them in some cases. I could see that potentially being the

01:08:37.500 way that it would work, if only because if somebody can read a book online, it might actually inspire

01:08:42.060 them to purchase a physical copy. Personally, I've done that a few times where I've looked at

01:08:46.020 excerpts or some copies that you can find online of particular books, even through the Internet Archive,

01:08:51.480 and then purchase them afterwards because I think it's nice to have the physical copy. Also, I find I

01:08:56.520 retain the information a little bit better if I'm not reading them off a computer screen.

01:09:00.060 I do the same with comic book omnibuses. Like, I'll go and look at an issue in the middle of a run before I go and

01:09:05.520 pick up an omnibus because I'd rather check out two very flimsy issues before I spend 80 to 90 quid on

01:09:12.340 a 50-issue run, but then having that preview expands your market. It reminds me of back when,

01:09:18.240 do you remember when Nintendo, in the sort of 2014-15 era, was hitting loads of content creators with

01:09:23.580 copyright strikes for their gameplay footage, and they were saying, this is not just transformative,

01:09:27.800 it's also free advertising for you guys and more people are going to buy your games. They eventually

01:09:31.080 cottoned on. I do wonder, though, if this is just trying to put the lid on a sputtering pot because

01:09:37.120 the nature of the Internet means that once your book has taken a digital form, the amount of work

01:09:42.960 that goes into creating the product, its means of distribution will diminish the amount of profit

01:09:49.760 you can get over time. Like, if you pay someone a modest fee to generate an article which is free to

01:09:55.580 access, and it does the rounds, it not only generates advertising for your outlet, and therefore

01:10:01.680 ad revenue and interest, but it also means that the production cost is relatively low to the amount

01:10:06.860 that you spend. Production costs are relatively high relative to the amount of time that's spent

01:10:11.020 on creating a book, and if there's a sort of patronage market for physical books, that's great,

01:10:16.560 that keeps it going. People are more inclined to spend more physical copies, but the moment you have

01:10:20.500 a digital book market, of course you're going to get piracy. I think eventually it's just going to go

01:10:23.740 sort of free by the nature of, you can't stop every website from hosting this stuff.

01:10:27.980 Well, there is also the point that I've seen the statistic, I think it's something ridiculous like

01:10:33.420 80-90% of books get less than 2,000 readers that are printed these days. Most books that do get

01:10:40.480 published, even by the larger publishing houses, don't actually sell all that well, especially if

01:10:46.600 you're working in non-fiction, and especially if you're working in non-fiction as specialist and niche

01:10:51.660 subjects. They will be, inherently, books that only appeal to a very small audience, and so there is

01:10:59.520 a utility in having them available for free to a larger audience, because as you said, it gets it

01:11:04.860 out there, makes it more easy to access, and especially if it's gone out of print, you're

01:11:09.280 likely not going to be getting any money from the resales that happen anyway, because it'll be old

01:11:13.240 pre-owned copies that are getting traded about, so why not have them available for free at an easier

01:11:18.980 to access platform? The other thing is, the publishers themselves are turning away otherwise

01:11:23.840 profitable authors. Nigel Bigger had his book ready to go out the door, and it was cancelled,

01:11:28.880 and they had to find a new publisher. They nearly walked out over Jordan Peterson's second book

01:11:32.900 at Penguin Random House, and I was working with an imprint of Hachette to get mine across the line,

01:11:38.220 and right at the end, there was a... Is that how it's pronounced, by the way? Is it Hachette?

01:11:41.720 Yes, I didn't want to correct. You can correct me as well. I didn't want to be a dick. There was a DEI

01:11:46.520 obsessed executive that stepped in at the last minute of the acquisitions meeting when I was

01:11:49.760 going to get my deadline and said, no, we're passing. So this was over a year of work just up

01:11:53.320 the spout, and now I've got to look around elsewhere for some imprint. They had already...

01:11:57.480 I'm sure you'll find somebody. It's difficult. Yeah. They had already said, we're going to make this

01:12:02.800 amount of money on it because we're going to at least reach this number of people because of the

01:12:06.400 number of views that this show and my other stuff gets, and they still passed up a very profitable

01:12:11.220 venture for purely ideological reasons. Yes, and speaking of the actions of the publishers,

01:12:17.260 the publishers themselves in this did not provide empirical data to support their observation

01:12:21.660 that it would decrease the sales. The court nevertheless decided it was self-evident that

01:12:26.040 publishers would suffer market harm in the future if the Internet Archive's practices were to become

01:12:30.220 widespread. Now, I will say there is a practical example of something like this happening in the past,

01:12:35.280 which is with music. There was Napster 20 plus years ago. At this point, Metallica very famously

01:12:41.180 filed a lawsuit against Napster for stealing their music, and a lot of the complaints that Lars Ulrich

01:12:47.020 was making at the time, which was that if the piracy, the free piracy of music online became

01:12:53.160 widespread, it probably wouldn't necessarily affect Metallica's bottom line because they were already a

01:12:57.460 huge multi-million dollar selling band who can, you know, sell out arenas and stadiums across the

01:13:03.320 world. It will affect the ability of younger bands who don't have those opportunities already at their

01:13:09.320 feet to actually make money. And especially since Spotify has become a thing, Spotify is very

01:13:14.380 controversial in just how little money it pays out to any of the people who host on that platform.

01:13:19.920 It pays out something, a ridiculously small number, like something like 0.00001 cent per stream.

01:13:27.700 So you have to be, you have to go viral to actually make any money off of it. And it does mean that it's

01:13:32.460 very, very difficult for musicians to make money. But at the same time, it seems that this might just

01:13:38.600 be a sad fact of distribution of any media on a digital online platform. As things progress,

01:13:46.060 I don't see that there's a way to turn the clock back. It's a sad state of affair for anybody who's

01:13:52.220 creative. The best that you can hope is that you're able to become popular enough that if you're a

01:13:56.600 musician, that you can play gigs and sell merchandise that will make you money. And if

01:14:01.200 you're an author, I couldn't say, I don't know. But as it carries on in this article, the ruling

01:14:07.320 triggered the immediate removal of over 500,000 books. Over 1,300 of these books are either banned

01:14:14.160 or challenged in the US. If they haven't been removed from school and public libraries, they

01:14:19.060 might soon be. The open library used to be the last shred of hope for the average person

01:14:23.780 had a free access to such books. Now that they've been removed, the book bans feel totalizing.

01:14:28.860 On Twitter, Internet Archive has mentioned the oh-so-ironic removal of George Orwell's 1984

01:14:34.540 and Ray Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451. We'll get onto that in a moment.

01:14:39.920 Also, alongside this at the same time, a recent lawsuit from Universal's music group,

01:14:44.860 Sony Music Entertainment, could result in high enough damages to put an end to the Internet

01:14:49.200 Archive altogether, which could take out the Wayback Machine with it, which would be,

01:14:52.840 again, a great shame. And as much as I say that all of this is a great shame and something to feel

01:14:59.240 bad about because of the fact that, yeah, it's a fantastic resource, whatever the ideological

01:15:03.900 positions of the people running it, the ideological position of those people is something that I'm going

01:15:10.120 to criticize now because I have to. First, here's the statement that they made on it. They're just

01:15:14.640 saying they're disappointed they're going to continue trying to appeal for it. It could go to

01:15:18.480 the Supreme Court, but who knows if they'll be able to get that there. Let's examine this claim

01:15:24.140 of banned books. So on their blog itself, they say that we had over 1,300 banned and challenged books. Oh my goodness.

01:15:35.520 And challenged is doing a lot of work there.

01:15:38.740 Happily, as you can see here, there is a link that you can click that takes you to a long list of this.

01:15:46.000 I decided to do that.

01:15:49.400 Here's what you find. Well, first of all, as you may notice, there's quite a few cheats.

01:15:54.280 Quite a few cheats in here because 1984 is listed 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 times,

01:16:00.780 all under different years published. So they just had a load of different versions of the book,

01:16:06.340 which they're all lumping in as different books to plump the numbers.

01:16:10.120 If you scroll down, abortion and politics of motherhood. If I go down to, where is it, to the G section,

01:16:19.720 you can see that you end up finding books like gay believers, gay issues and policies, gay and lesbian,

01:16:25.300 gay people of colour facing. So what they've done here, being that it is a leftist organisation, 0.53

01:16:31.540 and also they've got Harry Potter in here, for goodness sake. What they've done is go,

01:16:36.140 these are the books that schools and the parents of children don't want in their schools.

01:16:42.600 Therefore, they're banned, which is a claim that we've all criticised on this podcast many times.

01:16:48.220 Therefore, the Internet Archive Library is the only way that your child, your son or daughter,

01:16:54.280 might have access to a book that you don't want them to have access to in the first place,

01:16:59.220 even though if you wanted to, you could still buy it for them from a shop or from Amazon.

01:17:03.660 But a few things on that. Any school is entitled to not have 1984 in it, because of the sexual content in it.

01:17:12.160 So they don't say which schools banned it, they don't say for what reasons. I would presume it's not-

01:17:16.360 Well, it's just banned, I suppose.

01:17:17.940 Same with Brave New World. I would assume Harry Potter was banned by some of the more orthodox religious schools,

01:17:23.700 both Muslim and Christian, for the glorification of magic and witchcraft. 1.00

01:17:27.640 So, it might even have been banned by some because book four accidentally glorifies slavery.

01:17:33.480 Or, yeah, or because now J.K. Rowling is an apostate for gender ideology.

01:17:38.140 So we don't have any of the reasons why-

01:17:41.160 I mean, Adventures of Huckleberry Film was probably banned because it uses the N-word explicitly.

01:17:45.560 Constantly.

01:17:46.380 And so, this is lumped in with what I can only describe as LGBT propaganda.

01:17:51.820 Um, yeah, this is fundamentally dishonest.

01:17:54.780 Yeah, so I do have to criticise them for the dishonesty, and the response to this ruling has been very, very leftist in general,

01:18:03.020 because some of the stuff that they've been posting on their Twitter page has been,

01:18:07.100 won't somebody think of Prakash in India saying that they grew up in a poor region,

01:18:13.420 and I had limited access to books without archive.org, I wouldn't have been able to learn it. Don't care.

01:18:18.720 Are the comments what I'd expect?

01:18:19.960 I don't care. Um, no, most of them, because a lot of people haven't paid attention to this.

01:18:26.000 Um, from our side, a lot of people, oh, this is no different than the Nazis, can you believe this?

01:18:30.640 Oh, it's terrible, I can't believe Prakash can't get hold of her books.

01:18:34.300 Um, I don't care. Focus on the fact that this could impede people's ability to get access to very, very rare,

01:18:42.440 actually out-of-print, difficult-to-find books.

01:18:45.500 Not books that you can get from Barnes and Nobles or any other bookshop that just your local school doesn't want to stock in the library.

01:18:52.320 And here's another one.

01:18:53.560 If we don't have the access to the internet archive, how are we going to preserve African folktales?

01:18:58.760 That's the point, you won't.

01:19:03.520 Yes.

01:19:04.220 I just, sorry, I don't care.

01:19:05.380 I don't care.

01:19:05.660 I care more about the wealth of recorded, um, memory-hold pages from governments, various disreputable media organisations,

01:19:15.500 that we have the original versions so they can't lie and retroactively rewrite history.

01:19:21.200 That we have the screenshot of, for example, the New York Times article that was retitled,

01:19:25.740 that was originally, Elections are Bad for Democracy.

01:19:28.400 It's like, yeah, thanks for the mascot moment there.

01:19:30.700 As soon as Wayback Machine goes, we're not going to have that.

01:19:32.720 I mean, there are a few other archival services.

01:19:35.360 Archive.ph is useful, yes.

01:19:37.000 Yeah, but Wayback Machine archive, internet archive in general, are probably the most well-known.

01:19:42.840 I think it's the oldest, isn't it, as well?

01:19:43.860 It is.

01:19:44.240 I think it's been going since about 1996, maybe even longer than that.

01:19:48.240 So, yeah, there's a, whatever I think of the ideological nature of the people running it,

01:19:54.600 it's an excellent resource.

01:19:56.040 And I do think it's a shame that it's being attacked right now.

01:19:58.420 And as Connor has mentioned, there are some reasons to suspect the reasons that it's being attacked in the first place.

01:20:05.080 Also, I want to touch on one last thing before we end this segment, which is that this is also being blamed on Chuck Wendig.

01:20:12.440 Do you know who Chuck Wendig is?

01:20:14.660 So let me remind you of Chuck Wendig.

01:20:17.560 So he's an author who's written new Star Wars books.

01:20:23.320 Oh, I do remember this guy.

01:20:24.980 Yeah, certainly not a person that I'm a fan of, who posted when this first happened, NPR did an article on it,

01:20:32.900 and he said, this is a pirate website, it's not legit, what are you doing?

01:20:36.860 And so people are kind of blaming it on him for pointing the lawsuit in the direction.

01:20:41.120 Uh, for a reminder for anybody, he did this god-awful tweet way back in the day.

01:20:47.880 Tuesday, the day that you realize that nothing can stop you because you're a magic skeleton packed with meat

01:20:54.180 and animated with electricity and imagination.

01:20:56.540 So he's the typical gooning millennial who...

01:21:00.660 Reddit soy boy.

01:21:01.480 I mean, you can tell, just look at the...

01:21:03.340 Zoom in.

01:21:04.020 Look at the, look at the face.

01:21:05.440 Yeah.

01:21:05.880 The soy face.

01:21:07.300 The rictus grin of a man with high estrogen.

01:21:09.140 I also didn't know that he actually followed this up.

01:21:11.880 This was a thing that he was doing where he was saying,

01:21:13.920 it's Wednesday, the day you flumpty foo, the day you boopty boopty...

01:21:18.740 Aren't I so quirky and interesting?

01:21:21.420 I'm so fun.

01:21:22.640 I'm like a big...

01:21:23.940 Responded to this, by the way.

01:21:25.080 Do you know who Lin-Manuel Miranda is?

01:21:27.400 He's the guy that created Hamilton.

01:21:30.580 Yeah.

01:21:31.520 Yeah, so he's part of that clique.

01:21:33.360 He's part of that kind of cultural corner of the world

01:21:37.880 that we all like to ignore.

01:21:40.140 And here's an excerpt from his...

01:21:41.780 From his website, Terrible Minds,

01:21:46.800 where he is an excerpt of his writing style.

01:21:50.080 I like to think of myself as something of a pop culture examiner.

01:21:53.320 I like to sift through its dust and detritus

01:21:55.420 and see what shiny baubles or squirming beetles my fingers can find.

01:21:59.240 And really, what's more pop culture than porn?

01:22:01.620 Anything else, really?

01:22:05.480 Do they make these guys like Seth Rogen at a factory or something?

01:22:08.700 Yeah, I think that there's a conveyor belt pumping them out,

01:22:11.760 ironically, given the subject he's talking about right there with pumping.

01:22:14.980 But I hate to do this because he's an insufferable person. 0.93

01:22:19.480 He's an absolutely terrible person.

01:22:21.440 Good tweetman, and I completely disavow this, 0.97

01:22:23.740 says that he should face capital punishment for this piece of writing alone.

01:22:26.720 And I would never, ever support anything like that.

01:22:29.460 I've got to defend him,

01:22:31.120 because there has been a lot said over the past few...

01:22:34.200 past week since this decision came out,

01:22:36.680 blaming Chuck Wendig in particular.

01:22:38.840 I've got to dispel the myth.

01:22:40.020 He's got nothing to do with it.

01:22:41.740 Yeah, he posted one time saying about how he thought that it was a pirate website.

01:22:46.540 They shouldn't have access to the books that they have

01:22:48.860 and disagreeing with the NPR.

01:22:51.460 But he does explicitly say that he's not involved in it,

01:22:54.380 and he doesn't actually support it.

01:22:55.780 So, at the very least, I've got to dispel that myth.

01:22:59.840 But again, having said all of that,

01:23:02.940 despite the fact that the legal argument 0.99

01:23:04.960 that the Internet Archive put forward was complete shit, 0.99

01:23:08.400 it was terrible. 1.00

01:23:10.600 It's a big shame.

01:23:11.820 It's a really big shame.

01:23:13.700 And with that, on to the video comments.

01:23:15.080 Australia has a 30% foreign-born population

01:23:21.820 without the same level of social unrest

01:23:23.680 and achieving a GDP per capita higher than the UK.

01:23:26.780 You either need to be sponsored by an employer

01:23:28.360 or be skilled in something we want,

01:23:30.060 pass a points-based system,

01:23:31.260 and pay around £2,500.

01:23:33.120 It's a similar process to bringing in your spouse,

01:23:35.320 except you need to pay £4,500,

01:23:37.280 and you're instantly deported if you serve one of 12 months in prison.

01:23:40.540 Finally, refugee intake was only about £20,000.

01:23:43.600 It honestly feels like Britain is trying to copy the results

01:23:45.980 of its colonies' immigration policy

01:23:47.600 without using the same method.

01:23:49.020 No, it just imports the diasporas

01:23:52.680 of all of its foreign colonies into its country.

01:23:55.220 Also, I do have friends from Australia,

01:23:57.140 and he said that's changed fairly recently.

01:23:58.980 In the last couple of years,

01:23:59.720 I've had loads of Chinese and Indians 0.90

01:24:01.060 who are just causing social problems

01:24:02.900 and aren't economically contributing.

01:24:05.000 So, again, the laws on the books may say one thing.

01:24:07.980 Results are slowly different.

01:24:10.960 Sam?

01:24:11.900 After Steve H's video comments

01:24:13.920 about the Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus,

01:24:17.040 which I've since purchased on DVD,

01:24:19.940 I decided to do a quick bit of Googling.

01:24:23.160 And one of the production companies behind it,

01:24:26.320 which is still operating to my knowledge,

01:24:28.920 is called Poo Poo Pictures Productions Limited.

01:24:34.840 Yes, that is actually its name.

01:24:37.800 It's not, is it?

01:24:39.200 That's a Terry Gilliam film.

01:24:41.260 It was the last Heath Ledger role.

01:24:43.560 I saw it. I thought it sucked. 0.98

01:24:44.900 I've not watched it, but it's... 0.98

01:24:47.260 It's not good.

01:24:48.000 Oh, it is!

01:24:51.180 It is called Poo Poo Pictures.

01:24:53.800 That's apt for the quality of the film.

01:24:56.460 Why is that so funny to me?

01:24:58.320 I've not seen it.

01:24:59.140 I've actually heard decent things about it.

01:25:00.960 And I like Terry Gilliam's film,

01:25:02.600 so I'll give it a watch at some point.

01:25:04.200 On with the next one.

01:25:05.200 On with the next one.

01:25:14.660 Poffee, that cannot sort it, right?

01:25:17.560 It's very wholesome.

01:25:19.160 Yeah.

01:25:20.460 It's where the Haitian 1.00

01:25:21.340 sneak-sailed into frame.

01:25:23.940 Poffee, Poffee, Poffee, Poffee, Poffee.

01:25:25.620 It's part of its life, Leonard.

01:25:27.160 Ducks, Life is Strange

01:25:31.860 Style music, feels good man

01:25:33.320 I do like ducks

01:25:34.260 Very friendly

01:25:35.900 No, no, I'm not in the way that Haitians do 1.00

01:25:39.240 It's a toss up at Haitian BBQ

01:25:42.040 Whether you're going to get a duck or a human foot

01:25:43.660 Anyway, on with the next one

01:25:44.660 Hey Lotus Eaters, I heard you got demonetised

01:25:47.740 So I thought I'd throw some cash in the till

01:25:50.140 Good on you for sticking to your principles

01:25:52.740 Also

01:25:54.040 In general, I watch on a bit of a delay

01:25:56.940 So I'd like to welcome

01:25:59.320 Father Calvin Robinson to the United States

01:26:02.360 Come enjoy the free air

01:26:05.000 If you can keep it

01:26:06.940 We thought you were about to say

01:26:09.280 We'd like to welcome Father Calvin Robinson to the Lotus Eaters 0.99

01:26:11.540 And we were like, he's moved

01:26:13.220 He's still going to be doing common sense crusade here

01:26:15.500 It's just that he's going to be from the safe state of Michigan

01:26:17.740 Do we have any more, Samson?

01:26:20.360 No, that's it

01:26:20.940 Okay, website comments it is

01:26:22.240 Sheev Palpatine, somehow he has returned

01:26:24.680 Would Harry ever consider doing a new wave

01:26:27.020 Or British heavy metal special?

01:26:28.980 Bands like Saxon and Iron Maiden

01:26:30.500 Have always been shunned by the mainstream media

01:26:32.200 And are outwardly patriotic

01:26:33.440 And have a lot of bass and historical themes in their lyrics

01:26:36.200 You could possibly do a lad's hour on music at some point

01:26:38.280 Yeah, that's not a bad idea actually

01:26:39.900 I do really like some of the Nawabum 1.00

01:26:41.640 Which is the way that you say

01:26:43.400 If you just call me

01:26:44.000 The Nawabum 0.90

01:26:45.120 It sounds like

01:26:46.360 It's the new wave of British heavy metal

01:26:48.980 It's Nawabum 0.95

01:26:49.820 And you are right

01:26:52.360 Iron Maiden, for instance

01:26:53.660 Were very, very pro-Brexit

01:26:55.560 And they've got lots of

01:26:57.120 They've got lots of very patriotic themes

01:26:59.620 And imagery

01:27:00.240 You know, Eddie, their mascot

01:27:01.820 With the Union flag

01:27:03.500 Or St. George's Cross

01:27:05.100 Fighting in red coats

01:27:06.980 Really cool stuff

01:27:07.880 And the music's great

01:27:08.820 Although

01:27:09.460 I don't know, I've not been a big fan of Iron Maiden's

01:27:11.740 Last few albums

01:27:12.440 But it'd be worth a go

01:27:13.960 I'm not going to be subjected to a struggle session

01:27:16.160 But I'm glad that you enjoy it

01:27:17.760 California Refugee

01:27:19.380 You wouldn't mind Iron Maiden

01:27:21.480 Have you heard them?

01:27:23.080 I think so

01:27:23.660 You've probably heard Run to the Hills

01:27:25.040 Horribly

01:27:25.840 I won't sing it

01:27:27.300 Yeah

01:27:27.600 I can't do it

01:27:29.140 Mercifully for audio listeners

01:27:31.600 California Refugee

01:27:33.200 Trump won the cat lady vote with that debate 0.99

01:27:35.280 It's over for Kamala

01:27:36.320 On a serious note

01:27:37.360 Lots of astroturfing all over the internet

01:27:39.000 That Trump lost the debate

01:27:40.020 Watch and make up your own mind

01:27:41.300 Don't let certain doomers who are mad

01:27:42.720 The debate was mostly orderly

01:27:44.060 And not outrageous for views

01:27:45.260 Change your view

01:27:45.960 Comparing this to the literal worst debate

01:27:47.940 In history against Biden

01:27:48.880 Isn't honest either

01:27:50.220 I do think it's fair to say

01:27:52.180 That Trump's campaign

01:27:53.160 Doesn't have the same magic

01:27:54.340 As he did in 2016 or 2020

01:27:56.160 But

01:27:57.760 His actual policies are better than Kamala's

01:28:00.620 Again as well

01:28:01.980 He's also going up against

01:28:04.080 He was going up against

01:28:05.520 The worst candidate in history

01:28:07.300 Now he's going up against

01:28:08.780 The second worst candidate

01:28:10.220 In history

01:28:11.200 So he doesn't need to have

01:28:13.000 That same anti-Hillary fire

01:28:14.880 That he had back in the day

01:28:16.580 Although again

01:28:17.940 He did still have some of that fire

01:28:19.520 And he definitely

01:28:20.280 As far as I'm concerned

01:28:21.440 He won the debate

01:28:22.160 Omar Awad

01:28:23.580 Trump has the uncanny ability

01:28:24.980 To deflect attacks

01:28:25.940 And weaponise them

01:28:26.780 Against his opponents

01:28:27.740 We all know Kamala

01:28:28.940 Was desperate to use

01:28:29.940 The I'm speaking line

01:28:31.140 During the debate

01:28:31.880 Did she?

01:28:32.800 That's a pain

01:28:33.200 No no no

01:28:33.640 She didn't

01:28:34.100 He actually used it

01:28:35.080 Against her at one point

01:28:36.140 Which a lot of people

01:28:37.440 Were clipping

01:28:37.980 And saying oh my god

01:28:38.980 It's iconic

01:28:39.480 I thought it wasn't that great

01:28:41.160 I thought that was

01:28:41.960 One of the low points

01:28:42.740 Because I thought

01:28:43.460 He didn't deliver it great

01:28:44.480 She must have been

01:28:45.700 Screaming inside

01:28:46.440 Along with the moderators

01:28:48.260 Lord Nerevar

01:28:49.200 Honestly I'm glad

01:28:50.000 The debate turned out

01:28:50.720 To be a bit boring

01:28:51.400 ABC isn't exactly favourable

01:28:52.920 To the republicans

01:28:53.580 Especially Trump

01:28:54.220 And the best case scenario

01:28:55.340 Would be for Trump 0.98

01:28:55.980 To slaughter Harris 0.92

01:28:56.840 To the point she couldn't

01:28:57.680 Spin it

01:28:58.160 However

01:28:58.900 Given the climate

01:28:59.920 And the media bias

01:29:00.740 At the moment

01:29:01.220 It's probably best

01:29:01.920 To just slip by

01:29:02.680 And we're going on

01:29:03.900 As normal

01:29:04.380 I don't think

01:29:04.940 There's anyone left

01:29:05.480 To be convinced either

01:29:06.680 Adorable kitten

01:29:08.760 Hiding from free range

01:29:09.860 Haitian barbecue makers

01:29:10.860 Great name

01:29:12.880 One of the biggest takeaways

01:29:14.220 From the two people

01:29:14.960 Shouting from behind the podiums

01:29:16.240 Is this live fact checking

01:29:17.520 Is completely worthless

01:29:18.780 If only there was a shock

01:29:20.160 Or consternation

01:29:21.120 By it

01:29:21.760 Yeah

01:29:22.600 Independent media

01:29:23.520 Does a much better job

01:29:24.600 I mean

01:29:24.860 Steven Crowder

01:29:25.660 Has always done

01:29:26.640 These sorts of things

01:29:27.240 I haven't watched

01:29:27.840 The last few of his streams

01:29:28.900 Just for time

01:29:29.980 But he always used to

01:29:30.880 Have a big dossier

01:29:31.720 On file

01:29:32.240 He used to have

01:29:32.800 A lower third

01:29:33.260 Chiron

01:29:33.640 With his sources

01:29:34.280 Coming up

01:29:34.760 Anytime that there

01:29:35.520 Would be something

01:29:35.840 Said erroneous

01:29:36.520 We're capable of doing that

01:29:38.400 Just because we have

01:29:39.100 A collective hive mind here

01:29:40.420 Of an autistic retention 0.99

01:29:41.540 Of facts

01:29:42.120 The mainstream media

01:29:43.480 Are both dishonest 1.00

01:29:44.280 And stupid 1.00

01:29:45.200 So they can't do it 1.00

01:29:46.720 From my segments

01:29:48.000 Arizona desert rats

01:29:50.020 The duck hunters

01:29:51.160 Have a hunting license

01:29:51.900 If you want to eat

01:29:52.480 Duck or goose meat

01:29:53.180 Raise them in your backyard

01:29:54.300 You're allowed to keep

01:29:55.140 And raise domesticated

01:29:55.820 Ducks and geese

01:29:56.460 Especially in farming communities

01:29:57.560 Ah

01:29:57.860 But that implies

01:29:58.760 That Haitian civilization

01:29:59.660 Has reached the point

01:30:00.380 Where they can do

01:30:01.080 Agricultural work

01:30:02.660 Yeah I was about to ask

01:30:03.440 How does Haiti normally

01:30:04.420 Fare with its farming

01:30:05.380 Don't they cut down

01:30:07.780 Literally every tree

01:30:09.040 In the country

01:30:09.620 There's that line

01:30:10.460 Between Haiti

01:30:11.640 And the Dominican Republic

01:30:13.120 Where the Dominican Republic

01:30:14.080 Has all of these

01:30:14.720 Lovely trees

01:30:15.500 And forests

01:30:16.600 And Haiti

01:30:17.380 Is completely barren 1.00

01:30:18.480 If you can't throw a

01:30:19.160 Tie around the neck

01:30:19.680 Of an animal

01:30:20.100 They don't know

01:30:20.460 How to cook it

01:30:20.980 Also the important

01:30:22.780 Thing to note

01:30:23.240 So I was trying

01:30:24.280 To explain this

01:30:25.060 Whole situation

01:30:25.680 Where they're abducting

01:30:26.340 Geese to my missus

01:30:27.640 And she said

01:30:28.400 Oh it's the reason

01:30:29.960 They're going to America 1.00

01:30:30.600 Because of the earthquake

01:30:31.280 And I was like

01:30:31.960 That was 2008

01:30:33.260 And she was like

01:30:34.020 Oh but what

01:30:35.580 They haven't rebuilt

01:30:36.280 Since then

01:30:36.740 And I was like

01:30:37.060 Yeah

01:30:37.280 When did the Japanese 1.00

01:30:38.580 Have their boxing day tsunami

01:30:39.680 Funny how civilisations

01:30:41.980 Have different responses

01:30:42.820 To natural disasters

01:30:43.600 I posted it online

01:30:45.760 Because somebody

01:30:46.280 Was denying IQ

01:30:47.300 So I posted

01:30:48.340 Just a picture of Haiti

01:30:49.380 And said

01:30:49.660 I wonder what a country

01:30:50.520 With an average

01:30:51.280 Really low IQ

01:30:52.220 Would look like

01:30:52.820 And somebody said

01:30:53.400 Well you know

01:30:54.420 That's part of it

01:30:55.120 But the French 0.99

01:30:56.040 Really did screw them over

01:30:57.140 I had to

01:30:57.660 I had to live fact check

01:30:59.380 And say

01:30:59.680 They have received

01:31:01.100 More than 20 times

01:31:03.760 The amount

01:31:05.120 In foreign aid

01:31:07.120 That they ever owed

01:31:08.280 Back to France 0.92

01:31:09.200 France has nothing

01:31:11.960 To do with it

01:31:12.500 France gives them 0.51

01:31:13.680 Foreign aid

01:31:14.540 So if you want to

01:31:15.580 Talk about reparations

01:31:16.700 They're already paying it

01:31:17.780 Have you considered

01:31:18.520 All blank slates

01:31:19.320 No actually

01:31:20.760 No I haven't

01:31:21.520 I don't blame you

01:31:22.620 Derek Power

01:31:24.140 I'll add

01:31:24.560 University of Pennsylvania's

01:31:26.560 Motto

01:31:27.020 Laws without morals 1.00

01:31:30.280 Are in vain

01:31:31.200 Absolutely

01:31:31.880 Correct

01:31:33.060 And you and Baker

01:31:33.760 Just don't feed ducks bread

01:31:34.980 It's bad for them

01:31:36.500 That's true

01:31:37.180 Give them seeds instead

01:31:38.420 Yes

01:31:38.920 One more

01:31:40.720 From the last segment

01:31:42.100 Sophie Liv

01:31:42.840 How do we preserve

01:31:43.740 African folktales

01:31:44.680 I actually have physical books

01:31:45.960 With African folktales 0.81

01:31:46.840 You can buy these books

01:31:47.920 From Amazon

01:31:48.320 It's not hard

01:31:49.100 They didn't figure those out

01:31:50.480 In Africa

01:31:51.080 Okay

01:31:51.560 It was all oral 1.00

01:31:53.680 And on that note

01:31:55.720 Thank you very much

01:31:56.640 For joining us

01:31:57.160 Oh I forgot to plug my show

01:31:58.240 That's gutting

01:31:58.820 Well I'll be back

01:31:59.440 In about 25 minutes

01:32:00.600 With a weekly rendition

01:32:01.900 Of Tomlinson Talks

01:32:02.880 Discussing how

01:32:03.980 You can take

01:32:04.720 Anti-democratic action

01:32:05.860 To protect democracy

01:32:07.100 Harry

01:32:07.420 Pleasure as always

01:32:08.300 My friend

01:32:08.660 Thank you very much

01:32:09.380 Appreciate it

01:32:09.840 Go check out

01:32:10.280 His music recommendations

01:32:11.180 Go buy Islander

01:32:12.140 As well

01:32:12.580 If you haven't

01:32:13.480 Already

01:32:13.880 What are you doing

01:32:15.020 It'll be with you

01:32:15.520 In two to three weeks

01:32:16.240 We hope

01:32:16.720 Unless your country's terrible

01:32:17.720 Otherwise

01:32:18.760 We'll be back tomorrow

01:32:19.600 At one o'clock

01:32:20.080 Take care

01:32:20.620 And goodbye

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - September 11, 2024

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