The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1031

00:00:00.000 hello everyone welcome to the podcast of the lotus seeders for episode 1031 this is um is

00:00:15.620 it monday it is monday yeah it's well remembered thank you the 28th of october 2024 and i'm joined

00:00:22.560 by bo and josh hello thank you very much right so we are going to discuss how the media concealed

00:00:29.980 key details when a killer is a foreigner trump's joe rogan podcast appearance and allegations of

00:00:37.560 sex trafficking in the wrestling world but before we begin we have some announcements

00:00:42.440 islander number two is still on its way we still haven't got ours our copies yeah because we ordered

00:00:49.220 some internal copies just for us to have because you know i wrote in it harry wrote in it it'd be

00:00:55.500 nice to have some also we have yeah you know we want to read our work i haven't even read the

00:01:00.080 articles in it yet and we haven't even got ours yet so if you feel bad you know that you haven't got

00:01:05.280 yours yet and you've ordered it um don't apologies we're still new at this that's true we we should

00:01:11.580 get better in time but we're still new so sorry and we might change our dispatch uh service for

00:01:19.880 the next issue and also i want to thank paul for his lovely gifts one of which is the this brilliant

00:01:27.200 edition of the art of war soon zoos the art of war thank you very much paul uh paul sent us lots of

00:01:33.260 stuff we can't show all of them but uh thank you very much this is just brilliant i do a special shout

00:01:39.140 out before we get on youtube the segment starts i want to say to liz p if you're out there thank you

00:01:45.020 very much for the things you've sent in a special thank you because people send us all sorts of stuff

00:01:49.880 but she's been particularly generous so um she's also sent harry and i something as well so thank you

00:01:57.220 again if you see that on top yeah i hope she sees this thanks liz right shall we go for the first

00:02:03.480 segment we can indeed i'm gonna it's gonna be a bit of an easter egg just like why stelios got the art

00:02:08.440 of war the whole time but anyway sorry my hair is tickling my forehead i'm getting a haircut after

00:02:14.520 this all right it'll be fine so today i'm going to be talking about how the media does certain things

00:02:21.040 and uh some potentially are deliberate some perhaps not but deliberate or not they help to cover and

00:02:28.120 shape how we discuss crimes committed by people who either are seeking asylum or have a foreign

00:02:34.840 background more generally now i have my suspicions about this i think that there may be uh state

00:02:42.380 motivations because of course the relationship between say the state the intelligence services and

00:02:47.960 media is pretty strong particularly in the uk and we know it exists in the us as well and so i wanted

00:02:55.280 to set out a blueprint of how journalists can help cover up something that i feel like is quite important

00:03:00.940 and uh i think that's best demonstrated by a recent story that has come out in britain although this

00:03:07.400 sort of method of basically censoring information could work for anywhere um any country um as long

00:03:16.340 as you've got journalists reporting on stuff so this is the stuff to keep an eye out for so

00:03:21.560 what i have here is a tweet i did i know yes i'm including my own tweets but there's a headline that

00:03:28.420 says man charged with murder after woman dies in hospital following stabbing so obviously that

00:03:33.840 doesn't give much away about the details of who these people are obviously and i and in this i pointed

00:03:40.380 out the man is an 18 year old called denchol machek um and there's a way of figuring out who these

00:03:48.280 people's names are and uh i don't see many people doing this but if you ask um any ai program because it's

00:03:56.300 got access to a wealth of information you can say um where is this person likely from and it will give

00:04:02.280 you a pretty precise answer so it can tell that this person is most likely um an ethnic dinker from

00:04:09.560 south sudan south sudan of course being uh known for being a war zone not too long ago right it you know

00:04:16.780 it was just sudan not too long ago and so obviously not a safe country interesting that they were over here

00:04:24.860 in the first place but he did arrive in britain illegally by a small boat and that was back in

00:04:30.560 july and that's where he claimed asylum and then the woman he murdered um was allegedly working at

00:04:38.020 the same well allegedly murdered should i say for legal reasons um worked at the same hotel where he

00:04:44.200 was staying and i feel like these details are pretty important for the character of the story right

00:04:50.280 and um i got that headline from this here and you could say um maybe it's the limited information

00:04:58.820 that the the media gets when a story first breaks um rather than their unwillingness to cover it

00:05:04.900 because if you look at um the actual police report you don't really get much in the way of details about

00:05:12.740 these people um so you you get none of the important details for politics um and they're trying

00:05:21.520 to present this as they're not trying to bias proceedings you can see down here look um he has

00:05:26.760 a right to a fair trial there must be uh sharing of information online that may um anyway prejudice these

00:05:33.380 proceedings and of course you know i'm going to adhere to that because it is the law um but i still feel

00:05:39.100 like the police should be publishing information more information because when a case like this is

00:05:45.320 of national importance and it informs public policy there should be an exception and so it's not just

00:05:51.500 the media there is also involvements of the authorities withholding information that i feel like should

00:05:57.220 be public to have a rational civil discourse about these things because we need to know the details of

00:06:02.500 it and um i think that that's a perfectly reasonable request you can still do that without

00:06:07.480 necessarily biasing the proceedings can't you the problem is that we have an anti-racist state it's

00:06:14.900 a state that is full of activists who are saying that any kind of criticism of people's other

00:06:21.420 backgrounds is immediately racist and prevents people from talking about the background of of um

00:06:28.200 you could say criminals it's the idea of something being in the public interest

00:06:33.660 that's what often gets said or used to used to get said like for example the details of how michael

00:06:41.320 barrymore used to live when there was someone was found dead in his swimming pool if you remember

00:06:45.000 that apparently all that was in the public interest right you know where diana goes on holiday and with

00:06:51.700 whom that's in the public interest but who this alleged murderer is not so much it's like well it seems like

00:06:59.320 public interest tends to be in government's interest doesn't it ultimately but it is worth mentioning

00:07:04.840 as well that the reason that we're talking about this and the reason we can expose these sorts of

00:07:09.200 things is because we are you know an audience funded organization we have a merch store you can also sign

00:07:15.100 up to our website where you can get you know from the merch store at least which is accessible from

00:07:21.420 the website you can get nice things like this this is my own personal copy of this this t-shirt from the

00:07:26.840 merch store i feel ridiculous covering my face with the t-shirt but um i'm actually really looking

00:07:32.660 forward to wearing this but this is for a limited time only um until the u.s election is over so

00:07:38.200 make sure to pick some stuff up if you like the look of it um and if you want to our coverage to

00:07:43.660 continue make sure to sign up to the website with that out of the way um it is worth mentioning as

00:07:49.460 well lots of others um other outlets here's the express and the star saying charge amended to murder

00:07:54.980 following best scott stabbing just a man originally charged with attempted murder is now being charged

00:07:59.600 with murder after a woman died that's about as little information as you could possibly get isn't

00:08:04.620 it always in the passive voice it is isn't it i was about to point that out myself actually but

00:08:08.960 no do carry on well no just that it's just in the passive voice um so it's just somebody died

00:08:14.820 somebody died because of somebody i think that this is a good observation and it has to do with

00:08:22.680 the the leftist mindset because it's all about structures people don't have any agency it's all

00:08:28.020 about the kind of structures that the left wants to destroy they get all the credit and the blaming

00:08:34.160 for all actions that's why they want to say that hey this little poor man he was actually a victim of

00:08:40.200 circumstances so we need to tax you even more to change the circumstances of would-be criminals

00:08:46.140 yeah socio-economic factors actually stabbed that poor woman um and and here is another thing that

00:08:51.940 quite often goes on they focus quite a lot on the victim rather than the perpetrator and we'll see

00:08:56.640 how that differs when uh the races or the ethnicities of the the victim and the perpetrator swap places

00:09:05.020 so um here the sun woman 27 stabbed outside football stadium station dies as devastated family

00:09:12.400 paid tribute to and you know no mention of the actual details of it but the sun to be fair as we'll get

00:09:20.460 onto later did report on some other details which were important but if you got your information

00:09:25.620 from this first article you wouldn't know that and of course to go to the guardian here um no mention

00:09:31.780 who of who either of them were no mention of motive and again it's showing the picture of the victim and

00:09:39.460 not the perpetrator and now let's compare this to the guardian's coverage of another recent event

00:09:44.300 so here is a man um who had who was a an austrian painter enthusiast i say that for the sake of

00:09:51.720 youtube because it doesn't like his even his name um he was he stabbed an asylum seeker in a hotel

00:09:59.340 sort of unprovoked and of course they've got a picture of him and you might say well it's just that

00:10:05.340 he's been convicted and there's a mugshot and this other person hasn't um but let's just have a look

00:10:12.140 at all of the media coverage of this so it's worth pointing out there are eight pages of

00:10:18.060 lots of articles with his name his face um you see it carries on and on and on and on you see his name

00:10:25.340 him uh you know doing the roman salute all of this sort of stuff loads and loads i think there were eight

00:10:32.260 pages when i had a look um previously now let's have a look at this other guy right um

00:10:38.140 so the crime scene the victim some police cars uh just a generic photo there from the independent

00:10:50.700 victim victim victim police just nothing right and all of the coverage of this previous guy

00:10:57.260 um shows the man himself from when it happened onwards right and so all this does

00:11:04.940 is put a focus more on the victim isn't that tragic isn't that terrible how can men do this

00:11:10.380 you know it almost turns it into a feminist issue whereas in the previous one here you know aren't

00:11:16.220 these aren't white people dangerous aren't they scary look at him he looks terrible that that's

00:11:22.300 basically what's trying to be communicated here and of course you know bad guy i do not approve of what

00:11:26.700 he did or uh the person who was guilty of this you know i i don't support murder funnily enough

00:11:32.140 just to be perfectly clear um but there are some more details and you wouldn't actually know them

00:11:38.780 unless it was for these journalists at the daily mail who reported on it they actually reported that

00:11:44.380 he was an asylum seeker from a small boat that arrived in july and the woman who was murdered was

00:11:51.740 a hotel worker and in fact the sun followed up on this and they talked about the actual weapon used it

00:11:58.860 was a screwdriver and in this and i'm going to read from it but somewhere in here i can't necessarily

00:12:04.940 find it but there's the scene um it says it's understood a petty row over a packet of biscuits is

00:12:10.940 said to have taken place at the hotel area so you can see why this sort of thing is suppressed because

00:12:17.180 a 27 year old woman you know young woman was stabbed in the neck uh when she was getting the train

00:12:23.980 home from work after working in a hotel with asylum seekers in it with a screwdriver she didn't know

00:12:30.220 it was coming i think he snuck up behind her and stabbed her in the neck because he wanted a packet

00:12:35.260 of biscuits that weren't his from what i gather is it not frustrating and it's just infuriating that the

00:12:42.060 left constantly says everything is political they're politicizing almost everything except for these

00:12:48.620 headlines these headlines these headlines are not supposed to be presented as a political matter

00:12:54.620 well i think they're deliberately uh swept under the rug aren't they yeah and um it's also worth

00:13:00.940 mentioning as well that the mail has um talked about the actual family and and tried to to focus on the

00:13:08.940 damage that it's done so they're one of the only publications in the uk that's done anything other

00:13:14.300 than maybe gb news um but there are also other cases of this going on right um here is another

00:13:24.460 man charged with three counts of attempted murder um can we guess what the background of this man is

00:13:32.700 um did he break illegally into the country no well it's actually an indian man from uh the punjab

00:13:42.700 based on his name but um interesting how three counts of attempted murder remember that that guy

00:13:49.660 who had eight pages of news articles on on you know google news um he only attempted to murder

00:13:56.460 someone and that was one person and he had his name and face plastered everywhere they had screenshots

00:14:03.900 of his social media this person you know you know i don't think it's fair to equate human lives as

00:14:11.180 equivalent but you know potentially three times as number of people murdered attempted to be murdered

00:14:17.420 should i say little kids as well oh yeah a woman and the children and and for some reason this

00:14:24.380 doesn't get the same sort of attention as as other things a two-year-old yes an utter monster isn't he

00:14:31.020 and we're just in the neighborhood yeah we're just shown it was it was the houses that did it isn't it

00:14:36.060 it yeah that that's right and of course um there are lots and lots of different examples um here's

00:14:44.380 one another one and this is um of course not just me saying that they're trying to sweep it under the

00:14:49.820 rug as well um the family of the person murdered here is saying that the authorities tried to sweep

00:14:55.660 his death under the carpet so it's not just you know me with a bit of an agenda because i'm anti-immigration

00:15:02.300 the people who are victims of these people say the same thing about them and in in this particular

00:15:08.780 case um it was an afghan national who stabbed him over a row over an e-scooter and you can see why

00:15:16.380 they want to to sweep these things under the rug because these foreign people they don't necessarily

00:15:22.300 abide by the same rules and laws of europeans and north americans they'll stab someone over a packet of

00:15:28.060 biscuits over an e-scooter which they could potentially rent out anyway i imagine and they

00:15:33.820 say that he killed two people in serbia before murdering thomas roberts yeah and so it shows the

00:15:39.340 complete failure of the system this korea criminal he sold drugs in italy um apparently um he um killed

00:15:47.500 two people with an ak-47 in serbia and then he posed as a 14 year old boy um posing as someone who had

00:15:55.100 had his parents killed by the taliban and got into the country how was he not in prison in serbia

00:16:00.620 until he's an old man i know yeah like but this is a narco tyranny right this is the nature of it

00:16:06.220 you say the system's broken down well if you think it's deliberate it's working very well call me cynical

00:16:13.580 yeah well i think that if you if you push criminals onto a population and then the only thing that they

00:16:22.700 can turn to is the government it does help empower the government doesn't it following some woman to

00:16:28.380 the station stabbing her in the neck with a screwdriver over a packet of biscuit biscuits is

00:16:35.580 it's completely it's completely insane it's about as immoral as you can possibly get it's like the

00:16:41.260 most petty thing possible amounts to murdering an innocent woman yeah it's monstrous and also the

00:16:49.020 other side of anarcho tyranny in this case is that the government is not going to deport this person

00:16:54.860 most probably they're gonna say well he is not gonna have a good time in afghanistan so we're not

00:17:01.020 gonna human rights abuses in afghanistan so we can never return him yeah let's jeopardize public

00:17:07.820 security and safety we all know the humane thing is uh pass a law that allows him to be hung by the neck

00:17:14.860 until death that's the best thing for everyone right let's do that and uh there are also cases

00:17:21.180 like this one this was another asylum seeker um i believe uh i can't remember where he was from

00:17:27.580 oh moroccan i don't know why they're claiming asylum in the first place but he just killed a random

00:17:33.100 pensioner um because he was worried about palestine as if those two things equate uh this did go around the

00:17:42.540 news just because it couldn't really be suppressed and his own flatmate wasn't it i seem to recall i

00:17:47.260 remember well he threatened his own flat with a knife yeah but it's to the extent whereby just

00:17:54.460 being english is enough to have a target painted on your back by some of the people we're allowing in

00:17:59.100 our country and they obviously want to hide that you know a woman can get stabbed for a pack of

00:18:05.260 biscuits a man can be stabbed for a an e-scooter a random pensioner can be stabbed for being english

00:18:13.500 this is what they're trying to cover up right this is the stuff that's trying to be brushed over

00:18:18.620 because it's so damning to what has been done to us to all western countries really and um if we go to

00:18:25.740 this from migration watch just see the sheer number of murders from asylum seekers and you you know this

00:18:34.700 each bullet point represents another case many of them you know will be familiar with um you've got

00:18:41.500 the asylum seeker there blowing himself up outside the liverpool hospital in 2021 um you've got the

00:18:48.860 murder of lorraine cox in exeter in september of 2020 she was beheaded i think by an asylum seeker and

00:18:56.380 then sudanese asylum seeker stabbed six people including a police officer in a hotel in glasgow june of

00:19:04.060 2020 and then another one triple stabbing in reading park by a failed libyan asylum seeker

00:19:10.300 and you can see why they're trying to suppress this because if you look at this this is pretty

00:19:15.100 frequent now isn't it murders used to be very very rare in britain we used to be a very very peaceful

00:19:20.380 country you know murder used to be something that would grip the nation when it happened i mean you're

00:19:26.540 you're um probably able to remember that i didn't want to say no no it's fine i'm sorry but no yeah

00:19:33.500 no you're absolutely right yeah sometimes you would have the the odd crazy atrocity like the hungerford

00:19:40.380 killer or something like that or the guy in the 60s that killed a couple little kids and put their

00:19:44.780 bodies on railings yeah it would be like that would people wouldn't forget it for a generation or two

00:19:50.220 because it was so rare and so insane uh but now it's just so common that they don't even like just

00:19:56.540 the emily jones killing for example one of the most horrific things you can imagine uh just you know

00:20:02.380 they never really talked about you always hear about stephen lawrence they won't mention emily jones

00:20:07.260 very often because it's so terrible so horrific and so damning and so damning i mean many of these cases

00:20:15.100 are incredibly damning aren't they and that's why i think they're trying to keep them down is that

00:20:19.820 they look they reflect so badly on not only the failures of the government but also just the

00:20:25.020 the quality of the people we're letting in is not there they're not pop it's not possible for

00:20:29.180 them to integrate because they're doing acts of savagery that are sort of unconscionable to the

00:20:35.100 native british population aren't they and it's not just britain isn't it it's all over western europe

00:20:39.260 i saw one in germany the other day when a syrian stabbed a little four-year-old girl i think she survived

00:20:44.140 but just completely insane there was the guy in france that went on a rampage with a knife around

00:20:49.180 a playground another one in germany some woman beheaded a little kid in the street a few years

00:20:56.460 back remember that one like a full decapitation of a small child like it's unbelievable and to just

00:21:02.780 pretend it's not happening just pretend anyone that notices it is uh uh an insane fascist or nazi or

00:21:10.860 bigger or something no no no no we're not going to accept that we cannot accept that

00:21:17.020 no this is a crime flooding us with foreign criminals of the worst stripe is a crime unparalleled

00:21:25.180 in human history i've said that a few times but it really is i know never before have we been has this

00:21:30.700 been done to us before in all of our recorded history but by by them suppressing the details what

00:21:37.020 they're effectively doing is that they're trying to make them less memorable aren't they because if

00:21:41.820 if you know what happened it allows it to stick in your mind if man kills woman well that's so vague

00:21:49.180 you can't really encode the memory and and to get a bit psychological here um your long-term memory

00:21:54.940 encodes semantically meaning it encodes meaning and if you've got no details to encode it into your

00:22:00.460 long-term memory it makes it harder to recall it if it's harder to recall it then it makes you

00:22:06.940 less hesitant to welcome these people in which you should be because look at it there's so many people

00:22:13.500 being killed by these people also something that needs to be said is that a lot of countries are not

00:22:20.540 publishing data of crime with ethnicity and those that do do so only to the extent that they want to

00:22:28.540 promote the narrative that all crime is economic in nature and they completely neglect culture and

00:22:35.500 they completely neglect for instance whether people originate from places who that still have barbaric

00:22:41.900 practices and this is yet another yet another element of the narrative that prevents people from seeing

00:22:49.740 reality and let's not forget one other thing these are just actual murders there's an endless laundry

00:22:56.700 list of people that didn't actually die and an endless day after day after day of people that

00:23:02.460 were merely assaulted in the street endless clips you can find and that's just the clips that's your real

00:23:09.100 reality the endless examples every single day where someone's intimidated or assaulted in a minor way

00:23:16.220 on the street for daring to notice or say something or just be in the wrong place at the wrong time

00:23:21.340 these are just the actual murders so yeah what an unbelievable thing yeah so to to wrap this up i

00:23:32.300 suppose i should give some solutions to this because we are often uh you know people lament you point out

00:23:38.300 all these problems how do we fix it well it's just a matter of having the political will and making sure

00:23:44.860 that the media actually reports on the details of who these people are what their motives are who their

00:23:50.140 victims are just having more information and that includes recording people's ethnicity as far as

00:23:55.820 i'm concerned there should be a league table if you if your home nation commits more crime than the

00:24:02.220 native population i'm sorry you're not allowed in right that that should be how it is you either have

00:24:08.300 people from you know neighboring countries that are similar or you know in the case of britain perhaps

00:24:14.460 it wouldn't be too bad if we had i don't know people from norway you know they're not going

00:24:19.900 around causing problems really are they and that sort of thing i think that asylum seekers should never

00:24:25.580 be able to be given citizenship if we accept them at all which i don't agree with personally and um

00:24:32.620 yeah i think that what's going on here is a deliberate suppression attempt but what's really going to

00:24:38.700 change here i don't think this is going to change at least in the united states there are enough

00:24:43.180 parallel institutions that they can report on these sorts of things and they get out and they

00:24:48.060 eventually reach the president there's no such thing for um the uk or many european countries

00:24:53.500 because we're a lot more censorious i think that's why this has been allowed to go on for so long but

00:24:58.540 if this you know is to be put a stop to we need to do those things maybe a policy of mass remigration

00:25:06.300 for many that are here that should never have been here in the first place as well i wholeheartedly agree

00:25:10.540 with that some people would say that that's bonkers some people would say that that's that's a far

00:25:16.460 right fantasy nigel but yeah sorry i need some water clearly um we've got some uh comments here

00:25:26.060 sorry i'm just having a little sip of water okay so do you want to read them no no obviously okay um

00:25:31.740 that's random name says uh kratos is looking pretty good in a suit maybe that's why reform kicked him out

00:25:37.180 um they were probably afraid they'd get more the ghost of sparta treatment for being cowardly

00:25:43.740 traitors lol that's that's a flattering comparison there yeah kratos from god of war i mean big buff

00:25:51.740 it's just oh is it me is it a bald guy old guy is that what it is okay i don't know who that was

00:25:57.260 that's a compliment okay i'll take a god of war yeah yeah i'll take that war master dade

00:26:03.580 and uh he also says i've had interactions with people like this here in uh canada they're incredibly

00:26:12.380 unstable and are just looking for an excuse to hurt others they can't be rehabilitated because

00:26:16.620 there's nothing to rehabilitate that is true um you've got to be enculturated into civilization you

00:26:22.860 can't just be you know imported over and the magic soil cure you because that doesn't work and uh finally

00:26:29.260 uh i can't read that one but it is funny uh and i also got the reference yes yes um

00:26:38.620 yeah that's spicy there's certain things we just can't say although that is that is

00:26:43.660 true and funny right take us away stelios um it's not i who am oh yeah of course

00:26:50.860 second one okay take a breath away it's the bow man okay uh can i get the mouse for the on the

00:26:56.780 document scroll down a bit where are we okay okay so the donald appeared on the joe rogan podcast

00:27:09.820 i know it was great as well wasn't it podcast all day train by night no that's the wrong way around

00:27:15.340 all day uh so yeah the donald was on there and uh uh trump is actually a big fan of mma right i've

00:27:22.220 seen him at mma events loads of times well he likes wrestling as well doesn't he he's a true

00:27:26.780 american um so he finally went on joe rogan and um i listened to it all i think you listened to it

00:27:31.900 all as well i did indeed yeah um it was quite entertaining it's probably worth listening to

00:27:35.500 but if you haven't got the time so it's three hours long uh we'll just talk about it a bit here

00:27:40.060 and there was a few a few interesting tidbits in there um no massive new uh sort of policy announcements

00:27:47.260 or anything no massive new secrets about about what about what trump intends to do or anything

00:27:53.020 but still it's quite interesting um i think it's worth a watch would i be able to give my sort of

00:27:57.340 general thoughts yeah go ahead yeah so the first thing is that the format really lent itself quite

00:28:02.860 well to trump because he likes he was talking about the weave wasn't he quite a lot he's saying

00:28:08.220 how he tells a story and he weaves it into a grander narrative and he's like not very many people

00:28:12.940 do the weave the best i can do i'm afraid no it's right he can talk off the cuff in a long-form way

00:28:20.620 like a normal human being and in a very entertaining way as well and um he just came across as very

00:28:26.620 interesting and very personable and likable in a way that most politicians don't and you know obviously

00:28:34.620 he's a seasoned tv man at this point so he's got a bit of uh sort of uh tv sense to him and you know

00:28:43.180 he's lived a life he's been around the block he could he could go on larry king or something decades

00:28:47.740 ago and just talk off the cuff for a long time so this is bread and butter so um while we're sort of

00:28:53.180 talking about it i also saw jd vance go on theo vaughan's show recently as well because they they sort of

00:28:59.660 did the the podcasting sphere in the run-up didn't they and jd vance came across as like the most normal

00:29:07.660 guy ever there's a point where they were talking about um american football and i was just like this

00:29:12.860 just sounds like two men at like a barbecue having chit chat i was just like this this is really weird

00:29:19.020 that he's you know potentially going to be the vice president and he's talking like such a normal guy

00:29:25.900 and it just it comes across as so much more likable and maybe the commander-in-chief himself

00:29:30.380 in four years time that's true yeah it does seem to be that he's being courted for that that role

00:29:36.380 doesn't it it's not unheard of for vps yeah i think also it was uh it was a really funny interview at

00:29:43.180 times i don't want to anticipate but are you going to talk about the um the segment where he's talking

00:29:49.260 about landing in the middle east somewhere at night yeah yeah i could do again there's loads

00:29:54.220 of things i'll keep it no go ahead no go it's just funny because i mean he said that they had all the

00:29:59.660 lights turned off at air force one and he was a bit grumpy he was saying we're paying trillions of

00:30:04.940 dollars why can't we have the lights which it's a bit endearing because on the one hand it's a bit

00:30:11.180 it's it's like a spoiled child but you can't be mad at him right at the same time it's just so funny

00:30:17.660 yeah we've spent what is it like eight trillion dollars it's been 20 years and we still have to

00:30:22.700 land without our lights on because we might get attacked yeah but anti-aircraft weapons if we're

00:30:27.180 in an undercover mission yeah presumably you don't want to be seen yeah no it's crazy um i just thought

00:30:33.020 it was it was interesting because um he comes across as well who he is that's the thing about trump

00:30:40.620 like him or loathe him what you see is what you get that's part of his appeal isn't it why he's so

00:30:45.980 popular is that you know he's not a career politician because he's not giving these well

00:30:51.100 rehearsed answers and that's why when he said something controversial it made him more popular

00:30:55.740 and it is that thing that i think joe rogan said explicitly this at one point um and i completely

00:31:00.140 agree with him that people are just sick of the professional career politician having a sort of lion

00:31:06.540 a political lion a party lion which they stick to rigidly um there's so many examples of that when

00:31:14.300 they're asked a question and they give an evasive politician's answer they're asked the question

00:31:18.780 again and they just repeat the exact same line again and again and it's a disingenuous answer in

00:31:25.100 the first place people are sick of that we don't want that anymore right it's not 1960s soviet era

00:31:34.860 just be a normal person and if you actually can't answer it for a proper political reason you can say

00:31:40.220 that as well i mean trump did that once or twice when joe roger said now what exactly would you say

00:31:45.500 to putin and zelinski and he said oh i can't tell you that because then the deal wouldn't necessarily

00:31:49.500 work and i'm not going to tell you that but i've got a reason for it however i did it like that's okay

00:31:55.900 if there's something to do with national security you say well it is actually a national security thing

00:32:00.700 so i can't tell you that but otherwise and you carry on being a normal fluid human being i think that's

00:32:07.900 what people want above all else i know that's what i want i hate it when you see some would-be

00:32:14.140 politicians i don't know why angela rayner popped into my mind but someone like that where they tried

00:32:18.940 the interviewer tries to put them under pressure and they just say the same nonsense line over and

00:32:22.780 over again or kamala does it all the time because they've got nothing else because they're a weird

00:32:28.940 cutout of a person it's like being brainwashed yeah and we're so much attacked by that this ideology

00:32:36.940 in culture wars that you're supposed to say this you're supposed to say that and if you deviate

00:32:41.500 from these lines in any way you're just going to be destroyed people are tired of this again like

00:32:46.860 being a soviet-era diplomat there's the one thing you're allowed to say and if you deviate even a word

00:32:51.740 from that then you're in trouble you know well a lot of politicians you know that they're just bodies

00:32:59.020 to occupy space for other interests really aren't they they're not really there to actually speak

00:33:05.420 their mind a lot of the time a lot of political systems in europe and north america and elsewhere

00:33:10.860 are sort of set up with that in mind these days so funny something just came to my mind i hadn't

00:33:15.980 planned to say it but with formula one drivers it used to be the case when i was a kid back in the 80s

00:33:21.660 and even the early 90s a bit um they would always do that it's a party like they'll say your car wasn't

00:33:26.220 very good today you seem to struggle with grip and they'd always say the car is great the team is

00:33:30.380 brilliant and like they do that and at some point in the late 90s or in the 2000s they just became

00:33:36.220 honest they said yeah it was really bad we've got loads of work to do i'm really disappointed we

00:33:39.900 weren't able to nowadays f1 drivers are really honest like immediately after the race they say

00:33:45.260 yeah we struggled with this or that and it never used to be the case they used to always have like

00:33:49.340 a party line they'll be like a bit of a robot everything's fine like you know everything's not fine

00:33:53.660 right i think that's that's what people want with their politicians now just just be a human be honest

00:34:00.140 and be normal well yeah people can tell when they're being lied to can't yeah yeah even little

00:34:03.420 kids can tell what nearly always when they're being bullshitted basically um okay so let's talk about

00:34:09.820 what was in it a bit if i run through some of the less interesting things because i think towards the

00:34:13.980 end of the interview they got into things anyway i found more interesting um so they talked a bit about

00:34:19.420 the view they started off talking about the view where before trump was for 2016 they would they

00:34:24.700 loved him and they'd have him on all the time and he was like their funny new york sort of right-ish

00:34:29.740 leaning guy and they would always have him on because he was an actually he was a democrat back then

00:34:34.380 it was sort of a fairly vocal democrat for most of his adult life um joe asked him about what it was

00:34:40.620 like to be president what's it like i thought that was quite interesting to you know go to the white

00:34:45.500 house for the first time and trump said it was surreal he found it surreal sort of going to the

00:34:50.300 lincoln bedroom and the lincoln bed it was literally lincoln's bed is still there and stuff

00:34:54.780 and he said it was sort of surreal which is interesting but like you get used to it like

00:34:59.420 almost anything else as it's being president of the united states or having to get used to

00:35:04.060 solitary confinement in a jail eventually you get used to it whatever it is that struck me actually

00:35:08.860 because that that made me think while he was saying it like he has such reverence for

00:35:12.940 the history of it because he's talking about lincoln's bedroom for ages and how tall it was

00:35:16.460 and all the history that's gone on there and then he just says yeah but then eventually you

00:35:20.300 get used to it and that sort of makes you think okay yeah well he's being honest if it were

00:35:25.180 someone else they would say oh yeah it was amazing i i'm so grateful for it and then they

00:35:29.340 just leave it they wouldn't say you get used to it but that's like that's showing a genuine

00:35:33.580 attempt to actually reflect reality rather than pursue what is in in your short-term self-interest

00:35:41.020 it's true though most people must know it in their own lives there's something you think

00:35:44.300 you would never be doing or you wouldn't ever achieve and once you do it's just suddenly

00:35:47.900 commonplace you're podcasting right yeah i never thought i'd be doing this yeah no i've had it a few

00:35:54.460 times in my life sort of yeah like um one one time when i was started working at a big company or jp

00:36:01.340 morgan i thought wow those guys are something different like they're a cut above they've made it in the

00:36:07.500 city they're jp morgan employees that deal with funds and stuff wow and then within a few weeks

00:36:12.620 it's just nothing it's just nothing or making a bit of money or whatever it is or when i first went

00:36:18.700 to you because i came from a very working class london background and never really dreamed i'd go to a

00:36:23.340 really great university and read classics when i did for a little while i was like a little bit

00:36:28.300 awestruck but very quickly oh yeah it's nothing actually it's just normal it's just what it is even

00:36:33.180 with being president apparently that's the case it's interesting to know anyway moving on um

00:36:39.260 yeah um i love i i do find trump entertaining that like his patterns of speech and what he says

00:36:46.460 um he mentioned at one point that washington dc is a terrible place and he is i think when you look at

00:36:51.340 the crime statistics in washington dc it's pretty bad i think it was even worse back in the 90s but

00:36:56.700 it's still pretty violent i know that um connor said that when he was last there he went to a coffee

00:37:02.860 shop and there was a uh an urban scholar um spreading his scholarly word to the the people

00:37:11.180 working there right basically abusing the staff i think like a lot of cities there'll be nice places

00:37:16.700 and then there's the horrible bits uh but trump just said um he's going to bring washington back

00:37:22.460 he's going to make it great again um yeah so joe asked him about um how difficult it is to appoint

00:37:32.380 people because that was one of the crises even one of the criticisms i had of trump in the 2016 to 20

00:37:37.980 period was that he appointed a few duff calls and trump said it's actually quite hard because there's a

00:37:44.940 reason why people that get appointed over and over again is because they've got the experience they know

00:37:50.380 what they're doing and they've already been vetted so you pick someone that you think is great and

00:37:54.140 you think you know all about them but then the media point out that actually they did something

00:37:57.820 really bad in their past and you never even knew about it and yet you've already appointed them to

00:38:03.580 some senior position and and the way to get around that is someone that's been in the game for 30 years

00:38:08.060 already but the media have already trawled over their past and so they're sort of a safe pick

00:38:12.940 vetting is quite a slow and expensive process as well so you can i thought i did think it was

00:38:17.980 interesting that he pointed that out because it was basically quite an acceptable reason why he did

00:38:24.140 what he did because he did pick some quite establishment people in his first time as president

00:38:29.580 but also what i think we need to bear in mind is that when he is in the let's say the top officer

00:38:35.980 of the us you have a massive portfolio you can't be taking all the decisions yourself when you're in

00:38:43.020 these positions you have to outsource decision making to other people you can't you have to do

00:38:49.180 it so at the end of the day you have to rest on other people and depend upon them yeah as chief

00:38:55.900 magistrate in the very early days the stakes are always made yeah so for example we picked john bolton

00:39:01.580 um and it's funny they've fallen out massively since john bolton just calls him really really

00:39:06.300 stupid he's got an empty mind and stuff trump called him a nut job a whack job i thought that

00:39:12.540 was quite funny and it reminds me of um there was one point where someone said to lincoln that

00:39:19.740 there's lots and lots of people asking for positions there's far too many people asking for

00:39:25.580 positions compared to how many there are to give out and lincoln said there's there's too many pigs

00:39:30.300 for the tits i think that's a great quote i love that quote of president lincoln and uh trump didn't

00:39:36.780 say that but um that's a perennial thing if you're the head of government there will always be loads more

00:39:41.820 people insisting you give them a job than than there are to give out that's the nature of it um

00:39:49.100 but yeah joe said joe said straight to trump's face that you said some wild

00:39:54.780 it free balling and trump just like was laughing and smiling it's like yeah that's yeah that's how

00:40:01.180 i roll um i did think that joe was it's just like you've got a former president on here and joe was

00:40:07.340 like cutting him off and finishing his sentences and i was like hang on a minute yeah i i was quite

00:40:14.540 surprised i thought joe would be a bit more reserved i suppose he felt like he had to um

00:40:21.260 keep a little bit of control because it is a politician at the end of the day and you don't

00:40:25.180 want you don't want them taking over your show so to speak and making you look weak so that's what i

00:40:31.580 sort of explained it also it's just a conversation right it was just a conversation and joe rogan um

00:40:38.380 you know is pretty i mean if i was to call him impartial might not be quite right but just give

00:40:44.220 someone the chance to speak and just have a conversation with him that's what he said if you ever got kamala on

00:40:50.060 he wouldn't just be teeing her up for her answers he'd try and have a conversation with her and i

00:40:54.060 think that's what it was but yeah he did cut him off a couple of times which uh but hey joe rogan's the

00:40:59.900 the biggest in the game right um i think uh trump probably in this small window of time when we're only a

00:41:07.660 few days out trump needs joe more than joe needs trump right now that's probably true um so imagine

00:41:14.460 saying that though just like yeah i cut off a former president in in a conversation finished

00:41:20.620 his sentences he's taking too long yeah um so they talked about the 60 minutes clip uh the 60 minutes

00:41:26.700 cbs 60 minutes interview kamala did and what a sort of softball thing it was and that how they edited

00:41:33.020 her answers to sound coherent when you want when you watch the unedited thing it just wasn't and um

00:41:40.060 um trump described that as election interference and fraud that's a quote it's not too far off

00:41:45.740 really um yeah they talked about how the morale of cops in america has been destroyed over the last

00:41:54.780 four years like the defund police thing is completely insane of course that's the opposite of what a

00:41:59.980 normal society would do and i talked all about tariffs trump talking about how maybe you might

00:42:05.820 abolish or massively lower just income tax in general and raise tariffs and all sorts of things

00:42:11.180 like for example put 100 or 200 tariff on chinese manufactured cars for example if you want a car

00:42:17.820 in america that's manufactured in china yeah it's going to cost you through the nose so you're probably

00:42:22.700 not going to do it you're going to buy american and that that you talked about mckinley he was the king

00:42:28.140 of tariffs um again where he said we had a horrible tax policy i made it great just a classic trump

00:42:36.380 idiom right all of tax was bad and i made it great um i i would like to say that a lot of the things he

00:42:44.940 said on the economy i was pleasantly surprised at um how good he was on that i was just like i agree

00:42:51.100 with everything he said it's really good stuff and the fact that he was just like yeah i'm thinking

00:42:55.820 about getting rid of income tax in its entirety and replacing it with tariffs sounds good it's a

00:43:03.420 businessman and an entrepreneur and uh and uh a sort of a building guy for most of his life right so

00:43:09.500 he's actually lived out what it means to be an entrepreneur he's actually lived it out i mean when

00:43:16.460 they talked about environmentalism he said how it's just all the all the red tape and all the endless

00:43:22.540 environmentalist things that hoops you have to jump through makes it incredibly difficult to get

00:43:26.940 things built i mean like elon was saying we might be illegal to build the infrastructure to go to mars

00:43:32.940 and the moon soon if the lefties had their way i have a question because i didn't see all of it

00:43:39.340 particularly the economics bit a slashing in income taxes music to my ears but did he say much about

00:43:47.820 printing money no because you could say that printing money is an indirect income tax did he

00:43:55.020 address this or not not no towards the end they talked a bit about very briefly about the deficit

00:44:00.940 yes trump was saying he had brought it down a bit and now it's gone crazy again and but he didn't

00:44:05.420 actually talk about quantitative easing yes or the fed printing crazy amounts of money no because the us

00:44:11.900 that is going to be one of the major problems of his presidency if he gets elected well if

00:44:18.460 anything causes a systems collapse across the whole world or certainly the west i believe it will

00:44:23.900 come out of america's deficit and debt issues um i don't think i'm going out on a limb there i think

00:44:31.420 anyone knows what they're talking about would probably agree with that uh talking about uh they briefly

00:44:37.020 talked about homelessness and when gavin newsome cleared up san francisco for a few days

00:44:41.260 when um was it xi jinping came over or something that's right yeah and then and then let it all

00:44:45.180 go back to pot again straight away afterwards joe rogan even mentioned that crap map do you remember

00:44:50.220 we've covered it yeah i think calum covered it joe rogan mentioned that which is quite funny um

00:44:54.860 it talks about how dystopian modern mind windmills are um and that nuclear may well be the answer to a lot

00:45:02.300 of the well trump was a bit hesitant to say that wasn't he he was based i think what he was trying to err on the

00:45:07.980 side of is oil and gas and coal drill baby drill yeah america's got uh the united states has got

00:45:17.740 massive oil reserves massive canada has also got gigantic oil reserves they don't need to be

00:45:25.900 importing crazy amounts of oil from saudi arabia or kuwait or anything um they briefly talked about the

00:45:32.460 assassination and that trump's here there's not a massive chunk missing from his ear or anything

00:45:36.940 which is interesting but trump said uh quote it makes me a tougher guy just sort of choosing it i

00:45:43.340 mean it's kind of undeniable good way to talk about an assassination attempt yeah yeah they talked about

00:45:48.460 that gives him street cred yeah that's exactly what he's saying yeah yeah that's why he said that's

00:45:53.660 why he's surgeon with the black voters isn't it it's like he's literally me yeah he's been shot

00:45:58.460 taking a cap um yeah um they talked about kamala and the in trump's opinion trump's humble uh she's

00:46:07.820 just she's just dumb she's got really low iq iq he said there's something missing there's something off

00:46:12.780 with her and later called her an imbecile again reasonable take perfectly reasonable take as far

00:46:18.300 as he listens to her for five minutes can tell that yeah yeah um talked a bit about the the the

00:46:22.860 military and you know what a travesty pulling out of afghan or the way they pulled out of afghanistan

00:46:28.380 was leaving billions of dollars worth of materiel there um just a complete travesty uh trump called

00:46:36.220 the generals that did that stupid fools arrogant fools when we when he went to afghanistan he got down

00:46:42.540 to business right away and done deals with some of the afghan warlords there and he said that if

00:46:48.220 biden had gone there he just would have taken a nap and then left without having a meeting with

00:46:52.620 senior brass i thought that was funny um again trump you can accuse him of being guilty of hyperbole

00:47:00.220 sometimes i think he just said i rebuilt the military yeah i i don't i mean i think that was quite

00:47:08.060 the case to an extent sure but i mean anyway um it was hilarious when joe mentioned the time he talked

00:47:17.020 to um the leader of north korea and trump recounts that he said to him yeah sure you've got a big red

00:47:23.900 button i you can launch nukes but so have i and my buttons bigger and he said little rocket man you're

00:47:30.060 gonna burn in hell that's hilarious to me was that to his face i sort of well i think i think it was

00:47:36.780 over the phone i think it might have been to his face it may have been to his face actually it wasn't

00:47:41.340 either way that's that's brilliant and hilarious and um it clearly worked didn't it right well it

00:47:49.420 that's the point yeah that's the point it's not just funny for the sake of it it worked though

00:47:53.660 there was a tweet that he sent to kim jong-un uh i remember but it was an infamous tweet and he was

00:48:01.180 saying basically that you know you're gonna we're gonna bring you fire like you've never seen before

00:48:07.660 something like that yeah yeah it's a classic thing going back to the cold war gonna turn you

00:48:12.780 back to the stone age we're just gonna bounce rubble drop nukes on an already nuclear wasteland

00:48:18.540 i mean north korea is not too far off the stage anyway uh but little rocket man you're gonna burn

00:48:25.500 in hell okay talks a little bit about the enemy within which you know that's one of the things that

00:48:33.020 his political opponents accuse him of being both uh the austrian painter man but also mussolini and

00:48:41.580 starling all of these things all at once because he mentioned the enemy within although it just simply

00:48:46.380 there's a case like us have been flooded by uh foreign people that are quite often criminals

00:48:51.980 uh he he talked about how they've some foreign countries in central or southern america have

00:48:56.940 emptied their jails and sent them over there seems to be a statement of fact yeah of course it is um

00:49:03.340 he's described springfield ohio as a horror show population in the 50 000s dropped 30 odd thousand

00:49:10.460 foreign people into their communications and mainly haitians yeah well the aurora colorado's

00:49:16.220 has been sort of overtaken by ms13 um mentioned the the immigrant app where there's like an actual

00:49:23.020 app where you can go on and i mean just the insanity list goes on and on and on they talked about rfk

00:49:27.740 which i thought was interesting because i've heard rfk on a number of policy points i'm like oh i don't

00:49:32.860 i don't like that i know he's a darling of all sorts of people even some center rightist people like rfk

00:49:39.580 i think on a lot of things i just don't agree with his world view but he's now in the trump

00:49:45.020 camp and on some things he's good on big pharma on big pharma rfk is great right so trump said um

00:49:51.980 you know i'll keep him away from environmentalist stuff but um let him go crazy on the big pharma

00:49:56.860 stuff it's great i used to have back in the 19th century we sometimes britain would have a thing

00:50:03.580 called a government of of um all the of all the greatest talents a government of the talent so

00:50:11.580 you would have ministers from the other parties we just don't really do that nowadays it's not

00:50:17.820 really done bipartisanship yeah true bipartisanship so there's someone from the other party that's

00:50:22.380 actually an expert on health or something and you have them as your health minister you don't care that

00:50:28.300 they're from the other party you know so if trump does put rfk in government that'd be extremely

00:50:34.140 interesting and very very rare used to happen a lot more in centuries past we don't really do it

00:50:38.220 anymore was this also not the case during the cold war in the us you would have occasionally occasionally

00:50:44.700 have people from both parties occasionally you would do it yeah yeah um yeah you don't really see it

00:50:50.220 much anymore i mentioned uh hillary um trump said he saved her from jail he could have put her in jail

00:50:57.100 um he called comey a stupid son of a bitch called him a hog if anyone remembers comey um yeah um

00:51:08.300 i'd go further than that myself uh they talk about how tim waltz is just a complete disaster

00:51:12.940 zone uh which he is um joe rogan at one point asked him why is america and um being flooded by

00:51:20.380 uh criminal immigrants and uh trump said well it's because they hate our country or that there's

00:51:27.740 just that and then it's either that they're stupid or that they're just trying to buy votes

00:51:33.420 and it's got to be one of those things and i'd agree with that i mean i would say it's not because

00:51:38.300 they're stupid it's very deliberate it's very cynical in my opinion seems absolutely clear

00:51:43.260 no absolutely again working towards some sort of anarcho tyranny or just ruining the fabric of our

00:51:47.340 societies um uh and then the last few bits which i thought were interesting and worthy of note

00:51:52.780 so joe asked him about jfk the jfk files and trump said that almost immediately upon entering office

00:52:01.340 he would open up all the remaining unopened jfk files um and trump said it's time it's a cleansing thing

00:52:09.260 so i've got my fingers crossed for that i suspect from everything i know and and have read

00:52:13.180 um anything truly truly damning has already been quote unquote lost and so there isn't actually all

00:52:20.300 that much left to reveal but who knows i could be completely wrong about that that could age very

00:52:24.140 very badly and trump could reveal more files and it just says yes alan dulles ordered this and jim

00:52:29.980 angleton got the team together the cia guys it might be that i don't know but i'll be very very interested

00:52:36.220 to see what is left to actually release i think a lot of the stuff has was burnt a long time ago

00:52:43.340 documents and things lost so we'll see but if trump does that um he was a tiny bit cagey about it

00:52:50.940 because joe asked him what have you seen as president you're allowed to see and we knew

00:52:55.420 back in 2016 you saw some documents which the rest of the world haven't seen what have you seen tell us

00:53:00.300 and trump was a bit like um well you know it was a bit cagey but again if it's truly national security

00:53:08.140 he said there's still people alive that it could affect yeah that's kind of the point right yeah

00:53:15.900 so we'll see about that and the other thing last second penultimate thing i want to mention

00:53:19.500 it mentioned is that joe asked him about aliens are there anything brought up you know commander

00:53:24.380 favor and the tic tac and stuff and trump said yeah there's no reason there's no reason not to think

00:53:30.380 that there's something out there trump said himself when he was in office he spoke to quite a few

00:53:35.660 military commander like um radar guys or pilots that told him all sorts of stories of yeah there's

00:53:41.100 just like sphere shaped i've covered it on the website i tried to get karl to believe it and he

00:53:46.620 wouldn't believe it i tried to basically pin him down like in clockwork orange and open his eyes and say

00:53:51.180 look it's happening trump said and this is a quote there's something there yeah there seems to be

00:53:56.620 something there yeah i don't think commander favor is making things up whole cloth so yeah

00:54:01.580 there's something oh it's not only commander fravor but a few other people as well that were senior and

00:54:07.660 also lost out in their careers you know coming out and saying it kind of ruined their lives to a certain

00:54:12.860 extent so there's no incentive for them to lie about it quite the opposite well i think nasa this and the

00:54:18.780 cia and other intelligence services have gone before congress and said look there's all these

00:54:24.860 unanswered questions and we don't know the answer to it this is recently in the last couple of years

00:54:28.700 that has been actual was it the congress or senate either way sort of open hearing the senate open

00:54:35.980 hearings talking about it saying there's all sorts of unidentified things flying around our airspace and

00:54:42.300 low earth orbit and we the us air force nasa ca we don't know what they are it's not us and we don't

00:54:50.540 know what it is so that's a matter again that's just a matter of record right so anyway it's interesting

00:54:57.740 um okay um so there's one other issue i do want to talk about that was the nature of the 2020 election

00:55:07.420 but at this point um we're going to stop putting what we're talking about here on youtube because we

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00:55:18.460 want to know what we're going to talk about in the next few minutes um you'll either have to go over

00:55:22.220 to rumble or something like that or odyssey we're on odyssey or on our website or on our website

00:55:26.540 lotuscetus.com go over there where you can see us talk about the next thing so that's the end of the

00:55:32.700 segment for youtube all right now we can talk all about the fortification of the 2020 election because

00:55:39.980 they talked about it a bit a fair bit and trump didn't pull his punches um he said i won that second

00:55:46.140 election eat with so easily he called it so crooked rigged robbed and stolen

00:55:55.020 so again then they went on he talked about the the russia hoax if anyone remembers the um

00:56:00.700 the 51 intelligence very very senior i did all the hunter biden stuff and it was so obviously genuine

00:56:07.580 at the time before they even came out those 51 intelligence officers it looked to be genuine

00:56:14.300 because there were lots of pictures of hunter biden it was unmistakably him and it's just like how can

00:56:19.420 these pictures be here if if they weren't genuine and trump just straight up says they lied um i did an

00:56:26.940 article a while ago now when was it in june 2023 called in the shadow of mockingbird if anyone wants to go

00:56:35.820 over again to lotus eaters.com if you're if you're not already on that website watching this read that

00:56:41.580 i think it's i think it's one of my more interesting articles reference to operation mockingbird isn't it

00:56:47.340 so back in the 70s there was the church uh senator church um they looked into all the abuses of the

00:56:55.900 particularly the cia but other intelligence organs of what they were doing throughout the 50s and 60s and

00:57:01.660 70s of just manipulating the media in all sorts of ways um and i said we're still living in the shadow

00:57:09.420 of that after the church hearings and the rockefeller hearings the intelligence services of the cia said

00:57:15.180 okay we'll stop doing that okay hands up you got us we completely manipulated all sorts of media

00:57:21.420 things but we'll stop doing it now they obviously haven't but yeah just to mention the open letter

00:57:26.860 these 51 intelligence they were really really senior guys leon panetta john brennan mike hayden

00:57:34.460 some of the most senior people in the in the intelligence apparatus royalty of the intelligence

00:57:41.340 apparatus all just completely lied about the hunter biden laptop completely yeah frank forrester church the

00:57:48.940 third um and yeah we still sort of still sort of we're in the shadow of it still uh so anyway but

00:57:55.820 other things i mean specifically on the fortified election of 2020 uh trump was talking about uh

00:58:02.620 mailing mail in ballots ballot harvesting and lock boxes and all sorts of things uh i'll bring it to

00:58:09.420 a close thing so i've gone over a little bit but um yeah it's just saying that there's not a free and

00:58:15.180 fair press you know what they got there's up to do for example among many other things um and the whole

00:58:20.940 voter id stuff um again newsom in california it's just the only reason for that saying you don't need

00:58:27.100 an id to cast a vote the only reason for it is to cheat there's no other reason there's literally no

00:58:32.780 other rationale for it um and trump says a lot of things are still going through the appeals court he

00:58:38.380 said that appellate judges i.e the judges in appeals courts they need to be honest otherwise we don't have a country

00:58:45.340 that's a quote again again very very true um so okay um i'll leave it there if you are interested

00:58:53.420 it is a three-hour conversation you can find it very easily on youtube uh but i'll leave the segment

00:58:58.780 there right so the world of wwe is full of scandals it's scandal upon scandal and we are going to talk

00:59:08.540 about some new developments some rumble rants apparently oh jeff we have to have to read

00:59:13.660 those don't we sorry okay do you want to read you uh sure where where do i start from the top it's

00:59:21.420 all right i'll just start from the top those ufos flying around haven't contacted contacted us yet

00:59:26.620 because we're too stupid to colonize venus and instead are obsessed with mars bad tag i don't i don't

00:59:31.500 well i'm a pro mars guy um true story came to me in a dream okay um that's a random name said that

00:59:41.340 they also that's a random name also said uh also tulsi gabbard and rfk jr have joined the republican

00:59:46.860 party all right i didn't i know she she's stumping for him i didn't realize she'd actually joined the

00:59:50.700 party um bezos had ruled that nobody at amazon should take a side on the elections uh it truly feels

00:59:57.020 like the last alliance of elves and men against sauron yeah um what's this uh bald eagle seven

01:00:04.140 eight seven says apparently a federal judge just ruled that accepting mailing ballots after election

01:00:09.340 day is unconstitutional yes if that's true that's cool uh well it won't impact this election oh uh it

01:00:15.100 will impact future elections if it's upheld by uh the president um that's a random name also said uh the

01:00:22.540 reason i say this is because every explanation i guess oh that's aliens again that's um no the

01:00:28.620 the comment before is after watching the podcast it became clear to me why trump was

01:00:33.340 where he is in life i fully understand how he became a billionaire and president he's probably

01:00:38.220 the highest iq president since i wouldn't say reagan's high iq but um the reason i say this is

01:00:43.500 because every explanation he had for his decisions was perfectly reasonable every time he spoke you

01:00:48.380 could see how he actually understood what he was talking about i mean that doesn't you don't

01:00:52.780 necessarily have to be high iq it's just that most politicians are trying to evade the truth or a low

01:00:57.500 iq thank you i was reading those out of sequence so thanks for that's all right um so the i think

01:01:03.580 it's that yellow one that last one rumble quaker says three of my favorites congrats on your wedding

01:01:09.020 stellios thank you like the beard very much bow and joshie i had a trim i had a trim so it's not the

01:01:13.820 full liam danica wild man um you had me at goblins uh you're one of my segments yeah you're great fun

01:01:22.140 uh early am greetings from an old cat lady in las vegas well thank you very much good morning

01:01:28.300 right so the world of wwe which is world wrestling entertainment is full of scandals it's scandal upon

01:01:35.980 scandal and uh there have been some new developments into the infamous ring boy scandals which we're going

01:01:43.500 to talk to you about in this segment but what is interesting to know is that all of it right now

01:01:49.100 is allegations and we're going to report them as allegations because it's an ongoing investigation

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01:02:32.780 with that other out of the way we need to go to the next link we have more trouble for vince mcmahon

01:02:41.900 baba and the boys react to new allegations connecting him and linda mcmahon to historic wwe scandal

01:02:51.660 dating back to early 90s with abuse claims resurfacing in the ring boys lawsuit could this be the final blow

01:02:57.660 to vince's tarnished reputations let us play this out loud i'm gonna put it here vince and linda mcmahon

01:03:06.220 named in the wwe ring boys lawsuit but this is old news right i mean the pat patterson thing like

01:03:12.540 everybody knew that right that was that was the mid 90s everybody knew it but i don't think that that

01:03:16.860 stops a ring boy from filing a lawsuit vince mcmahon is facing yet another lawsuit this time the former

01:03:22.460 wwe honcho is being accused of ignoring claims of it was made by former employees known as ring boys

01:03:28.540 do we believe the ring boys or do we doubt them like the lady i believe you believe okay i was

01:03:33.100 traveling with hogan at this time and pat patterson had a kind of a ring boy rotation pat patterson wanted

01:03:40.140 to have his way with him back at the hotel later that night pillar to post man you know vince knew about

01:03:44.780 it all vince knew about i mean if i knew about it and i was just hogan's friend hell yeah vince knew about

01:03:50.300 it vince vince is the biggest micromanager i've ever known does that go personally on vince brian or does

01:03:56.140 that go corporately on tko i think it could go both you throw as much a crap against the wall and see

01:04:01.660 what sticks right yeah so what happened was that in the early 90s there was a scandal there were some

01:04:09.180 allegations called ring boy scandal and what happened was that there have been some people who were

01:04:15.020 involved particularly from wwe one was mel phillips the other one was pat patterson who had allegedly

01:04:24.220 some young boys from underage young boys from aged 13 plus who's new to me i followed wrestling a bit

01:04:32.140 i've never heard of ring boys scandal before well i don't follow it that closely obviously but it's just

01:04:37.500 it's just horrible yeah it's absolutely horrible yeah and to be very fair and honest i don't know if we

01:04:44.060 can cover the entirety of it in just one segment it's just a very deep private hole so what happened

01:04:49.420 was that they were using their fame and their power within the wwe organization and they were

01:04:55.900 in a sense luring young boys who were who really liked the the idea of wrestling and the idea of

01:05:02.300 contributing to to all these wrestling matches somehow and they were telling him that they were

01:05:07.580 going to give them a job and they essentially took sexual took advantage of them sexually speaking

01:05:15.900 these are the allegations uh no one has been charged but a lot of money has been given here or there

01:05:22.540 we'll give you the details in a minute vince mcmahon is the owner of wwe and linda mcmahon is his wife

01:05:32.700 now tko is the a sort of merger between wwe and ufc and as you will see we're going to give you plenty

01:05:41.020 of context because there are so many scandals and allegations that we really have trouble trying to

01:05:46.780 tell you what exactly what happened so what they're accused now is of covering up these scandals there are

01:05:54.620 separate scandals uh in which he is accused of sexually abusing people vince himself vince mcmahon

01:06:02.940 but in this case people are accusing him of actually knowing what was going on with a scan

01:06:09.020 with a ring boys scandal and they as the previous uh guys were saying he was a micromanager and there

01:06:15.980 are several indications that he actually knew about the role of mel phillips and one of one of which is

01:06:23.340 that in the 80s in 1988 he fired him there are rumors that he said that he knew that he had an

01:06:32.060 unhealthy interest in young boys but then again for some weird reason after six months he rehired him

01:06:38.300 it has been said that he rehired him on the pro on the condition that he wasn't going to

01:06:46.860 be close to young boys anymore but a lot of people are saying that nothing of the sort happened and mel

01:06:52.940 phillips carried on in wwe without being just say it reminds me of watergate there's the actual crime

01:07:00.700 itself and then there's covering up completely separate crime yes like nixon there's this third

01:07:06.780 rate break into some office building and then okay so that's a crime but then lying about it eight for

01:07:14.620 years and covering it up that's a whole different set of things exactly and they say here vince mcmahon

01:07:21.260 along with wwe have been accused of failing to prevent the alleged sexual exploitation of boys

01:07:27.980 by ringside announcer the lawsuit filed wednesday in baltimore county this is last week maryland

01:07:35.020 alleges mcmahon his wife linda and wwe ignore rampant abuse of so-called ring boys and the boys as young

01:07:42.780 as 12 in some instances were allegedly abused by ringside announcer melvin phillips jr in the 80s and

01:07:50.060 the 90s right so we have the lawsuit it should be here in the documents we have the fifth link please

01:07:58.460 could we please open it

01:08:06.140 yes so we are going to open it in a bit so there are allegations as this according to the the lawsuit

01:08:13.900 is by five anonymous people five john does

01:08:20.860 yes could we please put it on the fifth uh

01:08:25.180 yes so there are five anonymous people john does who are saying essentially that they were sexually

01:08:31.980 abused and i have here some of the basic allegations john doe number one says that mel phillips

01:08:39.500 raped him when he was 13 years old john doe number two says that phillips invited him to a dressing room

01:08:45.900 and wrestled him and put him on the ground and violated him john doe number three was 14 years old

01:08:52.380 and phillips was pinned to the ground and pinned to the ground in a hotel and sexually abused john doe

01:08:57.900 number four says alleges that he was abused at a wwe show and john doe number five says that he was

01:09:05.660 forcibly intoxicated and taken to a hotel right so we are going to show you here page three of 82

01:09:12.460 from the lawsuit it's clauses paragraphs two and three that are particularly important and they're

01:09:19.100 saying phillips's real motivation in luring the ring boys with the promise of gaining access to the

01:09:24.540 popular wwe events was to sexually abuse them and vince vince mcmahon knew it admitting that he was

01:09:31.580 aware at least as early as the 1980s that phillips had a open quote peculiar and unnatural interest

01:09:39.100 close quote in young boys mr mcmahon has never denied making that admission despite countless instances

01:09:45.420 over the last four decades where if it were untrue he would have stridently denied it so he hasn't denied it

01:09:54.540 that's suspicious if someone if someone used my name and said something of that sort i would

01:09:59.660 straightforwardly go and say no you're you're this is libel i'm taking action against you

01:10:05.900 and here paragraph three defendants knowingly gave philip free reign to use his highly highly public wwe

01:10:13.020 personality and image to entice local kids from the area near the wwe shows to help set up and take down

01:10:20.300 the wrestling ring phillips lured and manipulated the young boys with promises of meeting famous wrestlers

01:10:26.380 and attending the highly popular wrestling shows experiences that were otherwise unattainable for

01:10:31.260 these kids like many pedophiles phillips targeted young boys from broken homes and even routinely

01:10:37.340 traveled with them in plain sight staying together in hotel rooms and driving in his car to wwe events and

01:10:44.300 across the northeast corridor these are the allegations in a nutshell right so we need to talk a bit about the

01:10:52.940 persona of vince mcmahon because he is uh very he's known he's also known for doing the meme

01:11:01.980 where he's surprised and everyone is frequently showing his face when he's doing this and he has

01:11:09.020 this persona of the person people love to hate yeah mr mcmahon was always a heel yeah in the 90s when he

01:11:15.900 actually wrestled a bit as mr mcmahon he was always the heel yes and yeah he has some really weird

01:11:22.780 things that he's doing some really weird stunts so here in front of his wife he is he is pretending to

01:11:28.780 have a an affair with a woman in front of his wife yeah that is it it's all that's all theater though

01:11:39.260 obviously yes he's being the heel oh look linda's in a wheelchair

01:11:43.260 it's funny though yeah he has this you know that's gonna get cropped isn't it you laughing at

01:11:55.100 someone being in a wheelchair well no it's just the whole the whole premise is funny yeah we also have

01:12:01.980 another incident here because he had a beef with donald trump yeah and they each had champions and

01:12:09.420 they said that you know the person who loses is gonna have shaved the other the his head and what

01:12:17.100 happened here i'm not gonna show but obviously there's a stage but uh donald trump punches him

01:12:24.140 at some point and he and and he loses and he's shaving vince mcmahon it's funny because vince always

01:12:32.460 played the heel but he would obviously quite often get his comeuppance though like the number of times

01:12:38.380 he's like doing something really horrible and out of order and steve austin just comes out of

01:12:42.460 nowhere and just stuns him or something it's like here we have you had a good sense of humor this was

01:12:48.860 called the battle of the billionaires much and uh we have trump here talking to the undertaker battle of

01:12:55.500 the billionaires and that was with vince and me and you know we each had our wrestler he had um umaga yeah

01:13:03.580 yeah we had uh two good guys and they wrestled and fortunately my guy won and the loser had the

01:13:10.060 hair shaved i said i don't want to have my hair shaved and but we actually actually wrestled a

01:13:16.780 little bit yeah you mixed it up a little bit no it was a pretty famous thing but uh i think it has

01:13:21.820 your all-time record for for pay-per-view buys for everything yeah it was so this was you know the the

01:13:28.380 persona this is something about the persona of vince mcmahon i hope mark calloway the undertaker

01:13:34.220 isn't implicated in any of this well i don't think so considering he's just done an interview with

01:13:39.420 trump i think you're all right i think it's all right then no i don't think that there have been

01:13:43.420 any allegations for him so you're an undertaker fan yeah i love the undertaker yeah he's great i'm

01:13:48.060 hoping for a hogan calloway ticket in like 2032 or something or 20 anyway

01:13:53.900 a step closer to idiocracy that ruled by wrestlers right so there is something really horrifying about

01:14:01.580 this because it says a lot about the industry if these allegations are true it says a lot about the

01:14:06.220 industry because there are several questions as to why if you're a micromanager if your own if you own

01:14:14.540 the company for decades if you're its owner and you have high profile people around you who are

01:14:23.020 implicated in really shady behavior how come do you not know it if it's something that it's basically

01:14:29.340 word on the street people around look at look at looked at mel phillips and pat patterson and they

01:14:35.820 said they had lots of kids around them this isn't this is a normal behavior for an adult human being

01:14:43.660 what are the likes what what are the probabilities that he didn't know it yeah unlikely if it's true if

01:14:49.580 if they're true but it's like jimmy savile epstein uh pdd yeah it's just everyone knew yeah everyone

01:14:59.180 knew and some people would even say it but it's whether when there's a tipping point when the

01:15:03.420 authorities are actually prepared to do something about it or mainstream media actually talk about

01:15:08.060 it openly um i guess it's just like a pdd or an epstein thing or jimmy savile yeah everyone yeah everyone

01:15:14.940 you yeah the the thing though i don't know though that's an allegation it is i think it's beyond uh

01:15:21.420 probable here that we're talking about areas where you know we have lots of high profile people with

01:15:27.820 lots of power who have dirt on each other and they are using that dirt in order to manipulate each other

01:15:35.020 and frequently in these cases when people have dirt on each other they're more likely to get in line

01:15:41.740 and to abide by an agenda and uh when you are when you are in an organization and there are rumors i

01:15:48.780 think the first thing you need to do is to address the rumors so there have been several scandals

01:15:55.660 surrounding the name of vince mcmahon he hasn't been convicted yet but there have been lots of money

01:16:02.780 given and lots of hash money given here there they are calculating around 12 million in payments to four

01:16:09.980 women two of them alleged who alleged that he uh essentially abused them sexually this is new to me

01:16:16.620 as well yes and they're saying here that in june 2022 wwe's board of directors stated started

01:16:23.820 investigating a three million hush money payment and the board found that mcmahon had made 12 million

01:16:30.460 in payments to four women two of whom alleged sexual misconduct this was not the first time mcmahon

01:16:36.620 had been publicly accused of sexual misconduct in 1992 former wwf referee rita charterton alleged mcmahon

01:16:45.260 raped her in 1986. the allegations again were that they were about to sign a deal and he unzipped his

01:16:51.980 pants and told her that if you want the deal to go forward you'll have to satisfy me these are the

01:16:57.340 allegations again it's very similar to pdd as well where he'll do a sex crime allegedly and uh just uh

01:17:04.300 settle it out of court yeah and essentially get away with it if the other person if the victim is

01:17:10.380 prepared to take the payment since when you've got a massive amount of wealth you can basically just

01:17:16.460 buy people off and get away with stuff and that's sort of what we're seeing the consequences of

01:17:21.180 in wider society more generally with the you know all of these various scandals so there are multiple

01:17:27.180 now aren't there there are loads of elites that have been implicated in doing things like this

01:17:31.420 it's always the same formula really isn't it of you know you you keep people quiet with fear about

01:17:36.940 their career and you pay them off to deal with it and then eventually a critical mass emerges whereby

01:17:43.020 it eventually takes them down i mean this is particularly sordid it's not like harvey weinstein

01:17:48.220 where he'll make you a star he'll make you a hollywood a-lister you get to dismantle the ring at

01:17:53.500 the end of an event that's that's here we have a really chilling uh allegation we have janelle grant

01:18:01.340 who was a former paralegal who lived at the same apartment blocks as mcmahon he was she was get offered

01:18:08.140 employment in wwe in 2019 and uh she alleges that after becoming employed she was constantly sexually

01:18:18.380 abused by mcmahon and someone else called john laurenatis and they also had sex explicit sexual

01:18:25.500 images of what happened and she alleges that they use these images to sort of lure some um some uh

01:18:37.740 wrestlers in order to sign deals maybe they could say according to the allegation they could say well

01:18:44.300 this is something that is going to function like a deal sweetener we are going there we're going to

01:18:49.420 traffic her as a deal sweetener these are the allegations i feel compelled to say this every

01:18:56.060 now and then because it's important so we have here also vince mcmahon agreed to a multi-million

01:19:01.900 dollar settlement with a former referee who said he raped her in 1986 people familiar with the matter

01:19:07.420 said so i i don't know about these cases because they're high pressure cases and you know i've never

01:19:13.500 experienced something of the sort but if anyone accused me of something and and they had zero

01:19:19.580 evidence and it's a libel i would just file a lawsuit against them because you don't play with people's

01:19:24.940 reputation one's reputation is their livelihood so attacks on reputation are attacks on people's

01:19:30.860 livelihoods so i don't know why this seems this seems suspicious to me let me just say obviously this

01:19:41.900 isn't something when there's loads and loads of allegations it is worrying isn't it yes and we

01:19:47.820 have lots of stuff coming up and they're saying um several deals they're saying here in wall street

01:19:54.620 journal wwe's vince mcmahon paid out 12 million in settlements to suppress allegations of sexual

01:20:01.660 misconduct and infidelity over the past 16 years the deals include a 7.5 million pact with a former

01:20:08.380 wrestler who alleged that mcmahon coerced her into giving him uh sex and then demoted her into having

01:20:15.820 sex with her and then demoted her and ultimately declined to renew her contract after she resisted

01:20:21.340 after further sexual encounters people familiar say right so we have here several of the news about

01:20:29.820 the lawsuit people can click on the links they're saying that essentially there are people who are

01:20:35.740 saying saying that they were abused in the 90s and they and their justice hasn't been done one of them

01:20:43.260 has died tom cole i think it is his brother who is uh filing the lawsuit on his behalf and we have here

01:20:54.540 several lawsuits and we have here they're saying essentially vince mcmahon and linda mcmahon and are being

01:21:01.100 accused for knowing in this case so just they are they are alleged that justice hasn't been served

01:21:08.140 and they are accusing now vince mcmahon and his wife for for um for covering it up and if these

01:21:17.180 allegations are true it shows a lot about these these places because it shows that a lot of people

01:21:23.980 are really shady and they engage in quick pro quo deals and they say i'm not going to rat you out if you

01:21:30.620 are not going to rat me out and there's a lot of money involved with these with such money they can

01:21:36.940 buy people and a lot of people who are victims of such abuse they may feel that there is nothing they

01:21:44.140 can do about it because the people who have abused them are so powerful and it's important to know read

01:21:51.980 more about it and find out what happened right i think we should definitely speed up and we don't

01:22:02.460 have any comments we should go on our video comments as a collection of isaiah berlin's more accessible

01:22:10.220 essays a russian jew who moved to the uk berlin embodies all the high-minded thoughts and foolishness

01:22:15.420 attendance such people criticism unfortunately interpreted as anti-semitism where even berlin

01:22:20.620 notes jews are far more observant than they are intellectually sharp however his description of

01:22:25.420 freedom is that people would far rather be oppressed and recognized than free and largely ignored this

01:22:31.020 dichotomy can explain so much of the left of today no i i agree i think that it's one of those things

01:22:40.940 that they teach politicians is you you tell them i i hear your concerns and that just that sentence alone

01:22:50.780 nips it in the bud and a lot of the time nothing gets done this happened a lot with the conservatives

01:22:55.740 in britain with immigration where they would just say we hear you and then all of a sudden people

01:23:01.260 like okay something's being done about it when it's actually not you can get away with murder

01:23:06.780 basically saying that not in a literal sense i was telling you guys a little story just before we

01:23:11.420 came on about a cyberlin but i'll re-mention it again um in the 19 late 1950s early 1960s it was

01:23:20.140 thought that there was a soviet mole right at the spire right at the top of mi6 it may may have been

01:23:25.020 roger hollis may or may not have been roger hollis the head of mi5 and mi5 was um investigating it

01:23:33.420 and they're going back to the 1930s looking at everyone that was involved with

01:23:37.660 marxist students in cambridge in the 1930s at one point they interviewed desire berlin

01:23:44.540 peter riot interviewed him and as i berlin just said yeah he just gave them all the dirt

01:23:50.780 just said this guy's dodgy this guy's definitely in bed with soviets don't worry about this guy

01:23:54.940 don't talk about this guy because he'll rat you out and on and on and on as i berlin knew everyone

01:23:59.660 and just completely worked with our intelligence services so that's one thing i actually hold as

01:24:07.100 i berlin some high regard for doing that he was completely on board with british interests

01:24:13.260 like at the deepest most fundamental level um but i've not actually read much of his writing but you

01:24:18.700 have haven't you still yes yes he has just really interesting writings a very interesting author we'll

01:24:23.980 we'll have to do something about it at some point let's play the next video i heard a fun little

01:24:28.620 rumor that donald trump is going to make mcdonald's use beef tallow to make their french fries again

01:24:34.460 i think that sounds pretty nice it tastes better i guess that means that women's sports aren't the

01:24:38.940 only thing he's going to kick the trans fats out of i don't think he's actually going to do that

01:24:44.380 but it was a meme going around that he's going to change it because that's you know he's going to

01:24:48.940 get rid of the seed oils and and make it with beef tallow again they would be so much better as well

01:24:53.420 wouldn't they i mean using actual animal products rather than this horrible synthetic seed oil nonsense

01:25:04.620 i don't know why people are so tolerant of it it's disgusting it'd be nice if you could get real

01:25:11.340 mexican coke rather than the coca-cola made out of syrup as well let's go to the next one

01:25:15.660 so i have finally made it to japan this is my first day enjoying the town of kabagoe just outside

01:25:25.180 of tokyo this beautiful bell tower and in general amazing district resembling the old tokyo

01:25:33.900 but even here i cannot escape the encroachment of modernity and the modern parasites which

01:25:42.300 wear old stuff like a skin suit seems like a really nice neighborhood though have a nice time

01:25:49.740 i'd love to go to japan i've not been there no me neither high up on my list same yeah i'd love to

01:25:54.380 go let's go to the next one i find it hard to watch british tv shows from before the 2000s because i

01:26:01.980 easily spot the propaganda whether it's allegories of the trans movement anti-british sentiments or

01:26:08.220 scenarios where british patriots are villains and islamic migrants are heroes it stands out to me

01:26:15.500 i wonder if it's just me or if others miss the subtle messaging i've noticed similar themes in

01:26:22.380 non-british shows but they are often more obvious than in british ones no i wholeheartedly agree i spot

01:26:30.700 stuff all the time now like any media i'm just like oh okay there we go there's a bit of messaging

01:26:35.580 it's it's everywhere it's in most things right maybe i slightly misunderstood but did he did he

01:26:41.260 say he doesn't like watching stuff that's older than 2010 or was he saying the opposite of that i

01:26:46.780 guess i'm saying the opposite i think the opposite okay i thought so that makes sense um yeah going

01:26:51.660 back and watching stuff from the 70s documentaries from the 70s or the 80s it's great where there's it's

01:26:58.860 not pc at all but it's honest it's real yeah yeah absolutely there's still some great stuff being

01:27:04.300 made though like loads of great film directors great tv shows it's it's not as much in the mainstream

01:27:10.060 but if you know where to look it's there let's go the next one and now more wholesome content

01:27:18.300 i think it's not interested

01:27:19.340 oh go on then no actually forget it yeah see josh even sometimes my dog doesn't return the frisbee

01:27:30.140 it's not interested in doing so to be fair um my dogs used to bark at the frisbee rather than

01:27:36.060 actually retrieve it they'd chase it barking at it and then it would stop and they'd sniff at it for

01:27:40.300 a while and lose interest the dog i grew up with would go and fetch a ball or a frisbee bring it back

01:27:44.860 but then not let you have it that's yeah that's what i was talking about out of their mouth and

01:27:49.020 they won't let it go yeah right thanks for that is there a next one horrific moment knifeman towered

01:27:56.540 over victim before stabbing him in sickening attack a 19 year old man stole a large knife and ran out onto

01:28:02.060 the street the defendant came up behind the victim and said give me your phone the defendant then stabbed

01:28:07.340 him in the back with a knife mohammed of avon road in wigan the defendant said that he had been

01:28:12.860 suffering from mental health problems he said that he thinks differently to other people always mental

01:28:21.100 very prophetic video comment there for my second

01:28:25.740 he even stole the knife yeah let's play sam wesson following last week's lands hour i have a suggestion

01:28:35.100 for those of you who are good at ai if someone out there is able to send in a video comment of trump

01:28:44.300 discussing batman and robin that would be greatly appreciated okay we'll have to take a few extra

01:28:53.180 minutes to read comments so do we have another video okay right so um henry ashman says missing the show

01:29:01.980 today as i'm going in for surgery looking forward to catching this up once a good luck and i wish

01:29:07.820 you a speedy recovery samson harris josh has the office burned down yet without me i'm thinking about

01:29:15.100 it charles ellington stelios i just finished watching the mexican grand prix formula one how often

01:29:20.860 are you compared to the hansom drivers i'm constantly compared with arton cena for some reason

01:29:26.540 airton center yeah i mean there are worse people to there are worse people i like the idea that

01:29:32.380 you're um you're moonlighting as a mexican f1 driver i like mexican food yeah so do i yeah look a

01:29:41.260 little bit like carlos science jr maybe a spaniard maybe not really a little bit right calling someone a

01:29:48.620 spaniard do you want to read some of your comments of course um let's have a look here matthew c says i'm a

01:29:55.900 reform member and i am disgusted with farage and tice for not talking about this they need to be

01:30:00.220 replaced if they continue to show no backbone yeah i i agree i i was thinking like maybe it would be

01:30:07.660 good if they could at least drag the overton window a bit to the right and you know we continue dragging

01:30:13.420 it further but at the same time i think that they're being too regime to even do that you know

01:30:20.620 that there's a lot of optical things that they're getting wrong my fear was that people like connor

01:30:26.620 and charlie downs are sort of saying that jenric being based which will draw nige to the right

01:30:32.460 and i was saying i don't think it will no so far that seems to have been the case i haven't seen

01:30:37.820 nige come out and one-up man jenric on anything i haven't seen that no i think nigel's operating on

01:30:43.340 his convictions it's just that his convictions are not good uh paul uh whiston says bring back crime

01:30:51.260 watch yeah that'd be good wouldn't it um and uh read the day says honestly can't get over the rage of

01:30:57.820 the stabbing being unrelated to her death due to injuries i know yeah there's lots of rhetorical

01:31:03.420 tricks involved here aren't there do you want to read okay i i can read yeah okay gabriel's uh seam

01:31:09.580 same i was actually a little worried about trump going on rogan's podcast because trump does have

01:31:14.140 a habit of rumbling sometimes i think that's fair but it was actually the weave it's the weave the

01:31:20.540 way you said that then was like trump i think that's fair i did i did an english accent i can't

01:31:25.500 do a trump voice i'm not going to talk to you but it was actually very reassuring three hours of

01:31:29.740 really interesting discussion have you asked him if he'd chat to you guys i mean we've got no way

01:31:34.380 of contacting him that would be cool of course but i mean i would i wouldn't say no to

01:31:39.500 a chat with him trump we know you're watching come on um dear mr trump could you fix it for us

01:31:46.620 to come on this is a weird name i'm not gonna say josh firm does something in the woods that's

01:31:51.740 true i've done it once but it was horrible um i'm a camping enthusiast all right you know you can you

01:31:57.660 can read between the lines it was a good interview i listened to it on the train on the weekend

01:32:03.260 before i got sick it was actually a very good listen especially when they got onto aliens at the end

01:32:08.700 lol federal agent note how he ended the podcast with how long has this been going i need to make

01:32:16.540 a speech i would be exhausted after three hours of chat but this beast of a man keeps going what

01:32:22.140 a physical specimen yeah he really likes likes talking you get used to it to be fair i imagine all

01:32:29.580 of us have done grueling days of recording haven't we yeah where you you talk for a long time and then

01:32:34.140 you get home and your brain is mush but you can not if you're well seasoned you can do a good six

01:32:39.500 hours i reckon in a day arizona desert rat says i don't think it's it's best to put massive tariffs

01:32:45.900 in place to replace income tax i think it will just lead to massive smuggling plus there are some items

01:32:51.500 that i need that are just not made by us companies in my size right then and eloise says nothing is

01:33:00.300 sacred even wwe all wrestlemania reruns and memories tainted if these allegations are true unfortunately

01:33:07.820 but it's one of the things i meant to say on your segment but didn't but it's a crazy business

01:33:11.980 and i'm not excusing anything that's not i'm not trying to make any excuses it's a crazy business

01:33:16.460 filled with loads of suicides loads of drug taking loads of crazy because to be a wrestler you've got to

01:33:23.420 be a bit crazy everyone says this right because they're taking real bumps right they're not really

01:33:30.060 it's not a real fight like mma yet it's pretty real you don't fake jumping off a top turnbuckle

01:33:36.860 they're really taking bumps right and some of the stuff with the you know razor wire they don't do that

01:33:41.420 anymore but they used to some of the insane things that like mick foley used to do back in the day um

01:33:45.980 you've got to be a bit a little bit crazy so yeah it lends itself to crazy dudes so i mean again

01:33:53.660 that's not to excuse anything but yeah it's a crazy business always has it is always has it's such a

01:33:59.500 deep rabbit hole we should definitely talk about it at some point so kevin fox to be honest is there

01:34:04.860 any difference between wwe wrestlers and most politicians they're all actors playing a part to

01:34:10.060 get the public to support them then go home and marvel at how stupid their supporters really are

01:34:15.980 and karlane sloan oh no the form of entertainment that targets children and is massively homoerotic

01:34:21.900 has pdf files in it call me shocked i agree with it because i think that the very idea of a man in

01:34:28.380 this is just ridiculous just ridiculous i i really enjoy how internet censorship has made euphemisms

01:34:38.620 hilarious like pdf files just like or talking about someone rather than saying the word retarded you say

01:34:45.500 well-regarded you know they're well-regarded which is just there's there's a sort of funny poetic

01:34:51.580 irony though on that note we have run out of time and hope to see you tomorrow at 1 pm thank you and goodbye

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - October 28, 2024

Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1031

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