Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1031
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss how the media conceal key details when a killer is a foreigner, including the identity of the killer, and the details of the victim, to make it harder for the public to identify the killer.
Transcript
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hello everyone welcome to the podcast of the lotus seeders for episode 1031 this is um is
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it monday it is monday yeah it's well remembered thank you the 28th of october 2024 and i'm joined
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by bo and josh hello thank you very much right so we are going to discuss how the media concealed
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key details when a killer is a foreigner trump's joe rogan podcast appearance and allegations of
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sex trafficking in the wrestling world but before we begin we have some announcements
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islander number two is still on its way we still haven't got ours our copies yeah because we ordered
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some internal copies just for us to have because you know i wrote in it harry wrote in it it'd be
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nice to have some also we have yeah you know we want to read our work i haven't even read the
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articles in it yet and we haven't even got ours yet so if you feel bad you know that you haven't got
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yours yet and you've ordered it um don't apologies we're still new at this that's true we we should
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get better in time but we're still new so sorry and we might change our dispatch uh service for
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the next issue and also i want to thank paul for his lovely gifts one of which is the this brilliant
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edition of the art of war soon zoos the art of war thank you very much paul uh paul sent us lots of
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stuff we can't show all of them but uh thank you very much this is just brilliant i do a special shout
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out before we get on youtube the segment starts i want to say to liz p if you're out there thank you
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very much for the things you've sent in a special thank you because people send us all sorts of stuff
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but she's been particularly generous so um she's also sent harry and i something as well so thank you
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again if you see that on top yeah i hope she sees this thanks liz right shall we go for the first
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segment we can indeed i'm gonna it's gonna be a bit of an easter egg just like why stelios got the art
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of war the whole time but anyway sorry my hair is tickling my forehead i'm getting a haircut after
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this all right it'll be fine so today i'm going to be talking about how the media does certain things
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and uh some potentially are deliberate some perhaps not but deliberate or not they help to cover and
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shape how we discuss crimes committed by people who either are seeking asylum or have a foreign
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background more generally now i have my suspicions about this i think that there may be uh state
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motivations because of course the relationship between say the state the intelligence services and
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media is pretty strong particularly in the uk and we know it exists in the us as well and so i wanted
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to set out a blueprint of how journalists can help cover up something that i feel like is quite important
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and uh i think that's best demonstrated by a recent story that has come out in britain although this
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sort of method of basically censoring information could work for anywhere um any country um as long
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as you've got journalists reporting on stuff so this is the stuff to keep an eye out for so
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what i have here is a tweet i did i know yes i'm including my own tweets but there's a headline that
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says man charged with murder after woman dies in hospital following stabbing so obviously that
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doesn't give much away about the details of who these people are obviously and i and in this i pointed
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out the man is an 18 year old called denchol machek um and there's a way of figuring out who these
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people's names are and uh i don't see many people doing this but if you ask um any ai program because it's
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got access to a wealth of information you can say um where is this person likely from and it will give
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you a pretty precise answer so it can tell that this person is most likely um an ethnic dinker from
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south sudan south sudan of course being uh known for being a war zone not too long ago right it you know
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it was just sudan not too long ago and so obviously not a safe country interesting that they were over here
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in the first place but he did arrive in britain illegally by a small boat and that was back in
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july and that's where he claimed asylum and then the woman he murdered um was allegedly working at
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the same well allegedly murdered should i say for legal reasons um worked at the same hotel where he
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was staying and i feel like these details are pretty important for the character of the story right
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and um i got that headline from this here and you could say um maybe it's the limited information
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that the the media gets when a story first breaks um rather than their unwillingness to cover it
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because if you look at um the actual police report you don't really get much in the way of details about
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these people um so you you get none of the important details for politics um and they're trying
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to present this as they're not trying to bias proceedings you can see down here look um he has
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a right to a fair trial there must be uh sharing of information online that may um anyway prejudice these
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proceedings and of course you know i'm going to adhere to that because it is the law um but i still feel
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like the police should be publishing information more information because when a case like this is
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of national importance and it informs public policy there should be an exception and so it's not just
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the media there is also involvements of the authorities withholding information that i feel like should
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be public to have a rational civil discourse about these things because we need to know the details of
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it and um i think that that's a perfectly reasonable request you can still do that without
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necessarily biasing the proceedings can't you the problem is that we have an anti-racist state it's
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a state that is full of activists who are saying that any kind of criticism of people's other
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backgrounds is immediately racist and prevents people from talking about the background of of um
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you could say criminals it's the idea of something being in the public interest
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that's what often gets said or used to used to get said like for example the details of how michael
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barrymore used to live when there was someone was found dead in his swimming pool if you remember
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that apparently all that was in the public interest right you know where diana goes on holiday and with
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whom that's in the public interest but who this alleged murderer is not so much it's like well it seems like
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public interest tends to be in government's interest doesn't it ultimately but it is worth mentioning
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as well that the reason that we're talking about this and the reason we can expose these sorts of
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things is because we are you know an audience funded organization we have a merch store you can also sign
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merch store i feel ridiculous covering my face with the t-shirt but um i'm actually really looking
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forward to wearing this but this is for a limited time only um until the u.s election is over so
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make sure to pick some stuff up if you like the look of it um and if you want to our coverage to
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continue make sure to sign up to the website with that out of the way um it is worth mentioning as
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well lots of others um other outlets here's the express and the star saying charge amended to murder
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following best scott stabbing just a man originally charged with attempted murder is now being charged
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with murder after a woman died that's about as little information as you could possibly get isn't
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it always in the passive voice it is isn't it i was about to point that out myself actually but
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no do carry on well no just that it's just in the passive voice um so it's just somebody died
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somebody died because of somebody i think that this is a good observation and it has to do with
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the the leftist mindset because it's all about structures people don't have any agency it's all
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about the kind of structures that the left wants to destroy they get all the credit and the blaming
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for all actions that's why they want to say that hey this little poor man he was actually a victim of
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circumstances so we need to tax you even more to change the circumstances of would-be criminals
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yeah socio-economic factors actually stabbed that poor woman um and and here is another thing that
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quite often goes on they focus quite a lot on the victim rather than the perpetrator and we'll see
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how that differs when uh the races or the ethnicities of the the victim and the perpetrator swap places
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so um here the sun woman 27 stabbed outside football stadium station dies as devastated family
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paid tribute to and you know no mention of the actual details of it but the sun to be fair as we'll get
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onto later did report on some other details which were important but if you got your information
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from this first article you wouldn't know that and of course to go to the guardian here um no mention
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who of who either of them were no mention of motive and again it's showing the picture of the victim and
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not the perpetrator and now let's compare this to the guardian's coverage of another recent event
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so here is a man um who had who was a an austrian painter enthusiast i say that for the sake of
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youtube because it doesn't like his even his name um he was he stabbed an asylum seeker in a hotel
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sort of unprovoked and of course they've got a picture of him and you might say well it's just that
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he's been convicted and there's a mugshot and this other person hasn't um but let's just have a look
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at all of the media coverage of this so it's worth pointing out there are eight pages of
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lots of articles with his name his face um you see it carries on and on and on and on you see his name
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him uh you know doing the roman salute all of this sort of stuff loads and loads i think there were eight
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pages when i had a look um previously now let's have a look at this other guy right um
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so the crime scene the victim some police cars uh just a generic photo there from the independent
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victim victim victim police just nothing right and all of the coverage of this previous guy
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um shows the man himself from when it happened onwards right and so all this does
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is put a focus more on the victim isn't that tragic isn't that terrible how can men do this
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you know it almost turns it into a feminist issue whereas in the previous one here you know aren't
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these aren't white people dangerous aren't they scary look at him he looks terrible that that's
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basically what's trying to be communicated here and of course you know bad guy i do not approve of what
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he did or uh the person who was guilty of this you know i i don't support murder funnily enough
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just to be perfectly clear um but there are some more details and you wouldn't actually know them
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unless it was for these journalists at the daily mail who reported on it they actually reported that
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he was an asylum seeker from a small boat that arrived in july and the woman who was murdered was
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a hotel worker and in fact the sun followed up on this and they talked about the actual weapon used it
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was a screwdriver and in this and i'm going to read from it but somewhere in here i can't necessarily
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find it but there's the scene um it says it's understood a petty row over a packet of biscuits is
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said to have taken place at the hotel area so you can see why this sort of thing is suppressed because
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a 27 year old woman you know young woman was stabbed in the neck uh when she was getting the train
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home from work after working in a hotel with asylum seekers in it with a screwdriver she didn't know
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it was coming i think he snuck up behind her and stabbed her in the neck because he wanted a packet
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of biscuits that weren't his from what i gather is it not frustrating and it's just infuriating that the
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left constantly says everything is political they're politicizing almost everything except for these
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headlines these headlines these headlines are not supposed to be presented as a political matter
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well i think they're deliberately uh swept under the rug aren't they yeah and um it's also worth
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mentioning as well that the mail has um talked about the actual family and and tried to to focus on the
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damage that it's done so they're one of the only publications in the uk that's done anything other
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than maybe gb news um but there are also other cases of this going on right um here is another
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man charged with three counts of attempted murder um can we guess what the background of this man is
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um did he break illegally into the country no well it's actually an indian man from uh the punjab
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based on his name but um interesting how three counts of attempted murder remember that that guy
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who had eight pages of news articles on on you know google news um he only attempted to murder
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someone and that was one person and he had his name and face plastered everywhere they had screenshots
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of his social media this person you know you know i don't think it's fair to equate human lives as
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equivalent but you know potentially three times as number of people murdered attempted to be murdered
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should i say little kids as well oh yeah a woman and the children and and for some reason this
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doesn't get the same sort of attention as as other things a two-year-old yes an utter monster isn't he
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and we're just in the neighborhood yeah we're just shown it was it was the houses that did it isn't it
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it yeah that that's right and of course um there are lots and lots of different examples um here's
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one another one and this is um of course not just me saying that they're trying to sweep it under the
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rug as well um the family of the person murdered here is saying that the authorities tried to sweep
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his death under the carpet so it's not just you know me with a bit of an agenda because i'm anti-immigration
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the people who are victims of these people say the same thing about them and in in this particular
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case um it was an afghan national who stabbed him over a row over an e-scooter and you can see why
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they want to to sweep these things under the rug because these foreign people they don't necessarily
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abide by the same rules and laws of europeans and north americans they'll stab someone over a packet of
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biscuits over an e-scooter which they could potentially rent out anyway i imagine and they
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say that he killed two people in serbia before murdering thomas roberts yeah and so it shows the
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complete failure of the system this korea criminal he sold drugs in italy um apparently um he um killed
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two people with an ak-47 in serbia and then he posed as a 14 year old boy um posing as someone who had
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had his parents killed by the taliban and got into the country how was he not in prison in serbia
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until he's an old man i know yeah like but this is a narco tyranny right this is the nature of it
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you say the system's broken down well if you think it's deliberate it's working very well call me cynical
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yeah well i think that if you if you push criminals onto a population and then the only thing that they
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can turn to is the government it does help empower the government doesn't it following some woman to
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the station stabbing her in the neck with a screwdriver over a packet of biscuit biscuits is
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it's completely it's completely insane it's about as immoral as you can possibly get it's like the
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most petty thing possible amounts to murdering an innocent woman yeah it's monstrous and also the
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other side of anarcho tyranny in this case is that the government is not going to deport this person
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most probably they're gonna say well he is not gonna have a good time in afghanistan so we're not
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gonna human rights abuses in afghanistan so we can never return him yeah let's jeopardize public
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security and safety we all know the humane thing is uh pass a law that allows him to be hung by the neck
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until death that's the best thing for everyone right let's do that and uh there are also cases
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like this one this was another asylum seeker um i believe uh i can't remember where he was from
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oh moroccan i don't know why they're claiming asylum in the first place but he just killed a random
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pensioner um because he was worried about palestine as if those two things equate uh this did go around the
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news just because it couldn't really be suppressed and his own flatmate wasn't it i seem to recall i
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remember well he threatened his own flat with a knife yeah but it's to the extent whereby just
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being english is enough to have a target painted on your back by some of the people we're allowing in
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our country and they obviously want to hide that you know a woman can get stabbed for a pack of
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biscuits a man can be stabbed for a an e-scooter a random pensioner can be stabbed for being english
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this is what they're trying to cover up right this is the stuff that's trying to be brushed over
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because it's so damning to what has been done to us to all western countries really and um if we go to
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this from migration watch just see the sheer number of murders from asylum seekers and you you know this
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each bullet point represents another case many of them you know will be familiar with um you've got
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the asylum seeker there blowing himself up outside the liverpool hospital in 2021 um you've got the
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murder of lorraine cox in exeter in september of 2020 she was beheaded i think by an asylum seeker and
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then sudanese asylum seeker stabbed six people including a police officer in a hotel in glasgow june of
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2020 and then another one triple stabbing in reading park by a failed libyan asylum seeker
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and you can see why they're trying to suppress this because if you look at this this is pretty
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frequent now isn't it murders used to be very very rare in britain we used to be a very very peaceful
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country you know murder used to be something that would grip the nation when it happened i mean you're
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you're um probably able to remember that i didn't want to say no no it's fine i'm sorry but no yeah
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no you're absolutely right yeah sometimes you would have the the odd crazy atrocity like the hungerford
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killer or something like that or the guy in the 60s that killed a couple little kids and put their
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bodies on railings yeah it would be like that would people wouldn't forget it for a generation or two
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because it was so rare and so insane uh but now it's just so common that they don't even like just
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the emily jones killing for example one of the most horrific things you can imagine uh just you know
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they never really talked about you always hear about stephen lawrence they won't mention emily jones
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very often because it's so terrible so horrific and so damning and so damning i mean many of these cases
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are incredibly damning aren't they and that's why i think they're trying to keep them down is that
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they look they reflect so badly on not only the failures of the government but also just the
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the quality of the people we're letting in is not there they're not pop it's not possible for
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them to integrate because they're doing acts of savagery that are sort of unconscionable to the
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native british population aren't they and it's not just britain isn't it it's all over western europe
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i saw one in germany the other day when a syrian stabbed a little four-year-old girl i think she survived
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but just completely insane there was the guy in france that went on a rampage with a knife around
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a playground another one in germany some woman beheaded a little kid in the street a few years
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back remember that one like a full decapitation of a small child like it's unbelievable and to just
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pretend it's not happening just pretend anyone that notices it is uh uh an insane fascist or nazi or
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bigger or something no no no no we're not going to accept that we cannot accept that
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no this is a crime flooding us with foreign criminals of the worst stripe is a crime unparalleled
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in human history i've said that a few times but it really is i know never before have we been has this
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been done to us before in all of our recorded history but by by them suppressing the details what
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they're effectively doing is that they're trying to make them less memorable aren't they because if
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if you know what happened it allows it to stick in your mind if man kills woman well that's so vague
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you can't really encode the memory and and to get a bit psychological here um your long-term memory
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encodes semantically meaning it encodes meaning and if you've got no details to encode it into your
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long-term memory it makes it harder to recall it if it's harder to recall it then it makes you
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less hesitant to welcome these people in which you should be because look at it there's so many people
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being killed by these people also something that needs to be said is that a lot of countries are not
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publishing data of crime with ethnicity and those that do do so only to the extent that they want to
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promote the narrative that all crime is economic in nature and they completely neglect culture and
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they completely neglect for instance whether people originate from places who that still have barbaric
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practices and this is yet another yet another element of the narrative that prevents people from seeing
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reality and let's not forget one other thing these are just actual murders there's an endless laundry
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list of people that didn't actually die and an endless day after day after day of people that
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were merely assaulted in the street endless clips you can find and that's just the clips that's your real
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reality the endless examples every single day where someone's intimidated or assaulted in a minor way
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on the street for daring to notice or say something or just be in the wrong place at the wrong time
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these are just the actual murders so yeah what an unbelievable thing yeah so to to wrap this up i
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suppose i should give some solutions to this because we are often uh you know people lament you point out
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all these problems how do we fix it well it's just a matter of having the political will and making sure
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that the media actually reports on the details of who these people are what their motives are who their
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victims are just having more information and that includes recording people's ethnicity as far as
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i'm concerned there should be a league table if you if your home nation commits more crime than the
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native population i'm sorry you're not allowed in right that that should be how it is you either have
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people from you know neighboring countries that are similar or you know in the case of britain perhaps
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it wouldn't be too bad if we had i don't know people from norway you know they're not going
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around causing problems really are they and that sort of thing i think that asylum seekers should never
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be able to be given citizenship if we accept them at all which i don't agree with personally and um
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yeah i think that what's going on here is a deliberate suppression attempt but what's really going to
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change here i don't think this is going to change at least in the united states there are enough
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parallel institutions that they can report on these sorts of things and they get out and they
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eventually reach the president there's no such thing for um the uk or many european countries
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because we're a lot more censorious i think that's why this has been allowed to go on for so long but
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if this you know is to be put a stop to we need to do those things maybe a policy of mass remigration
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for many that are here that should never have been here in the first place as well i wholeheartedly agree
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with that some people would say that that's bonkers some people would say that that's that's a far
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right fantasy nigel but yeah sorry i need some water clearly um we've got some uh comments here
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sorry i'm just having a little sip of water okay so do you want to read them no no obviously okay um
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that's random name says uh kratos is looking pretty good in a suit maybe that's why reform kicked him out
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um they were probably afraid they'd get more the ghost of sparta treatment for being cowardly
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traitors lol that's that's a flattering comparison there yeah kratos from god of war i mean big buff
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it's just oh is it me is it a bald guy old guy is that what it is okay i don't know who that was
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that's a compliment okay i'll take a god of war yeah yeah i'll take that war master dade
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and uh he also says i've had interactions with people like this here in uh canada they're incredibly
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unstable and are just looking for an excuse to hurt others they can't be rehabilitated because
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there's nothing to rehabilitate that is true um you've got to be enculturated into civilization you
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can't just be you know imported over and the magic soil cure you because that doesn't work and uh finally
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uh i can't read that one but it is funny uh and i also got the reference yes yes um
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yeah that's spicy there's certain things we just can't say although that is that is
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true and funny right take us away stelios um it's not i who am oh yeah of course
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second one okay take a breath away it's the bow man okay uh can i get the mouse for the on the
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document scroll down a bit where are we okay okay so the donald appeared on the joe rogan podcast
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i know it was great as well wasn't it podcast all day train by night no that's the wrong way around
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all day uh so yeah the donald was on there and uh uh trump is actually a big fan of mma right i've
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seen him at mma events loads of times well he likes wrestling as well doesn't he he's a true
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american um so he finally went on joe rogan and um i listened to it all i think you listened to it
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all as well i did indeed yeah um it was quite entertaining it's probably worth listening to
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but if you haven't got the time so it's three hours long uh we'll just talk about it a bit here
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and there was a few a few interesting tidbits in there um no massive new uh sort of policy announcements
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or anything no massive new secrets about about what about what trump intends to do or anything
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but still it's quite interesting um i think it's worth a watch would i be able to give my sort of
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general thoughts yeah go ahead yeah so the first thing is that the format really lent itself quite
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well to trump because he likes he was talking about the weave wasn't he quite a lot he's saying
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how he tells a story and he weaves it into a grander narrative and he's like not very many people
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do the weave the best i can do i'm afraid no it's right he can talk off the cuff in a long-form way
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like a normal human being and in a very entertaining way as well and um he just came across as very
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interesting and very personable and likable in a way that most politicians don't and you know obviously
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he's a seasoned tv man at this point so he's got a bit of uh sort of uh tv sense to him and you know
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he's lived a life he's been around the block he could he could go on larry king or something decades
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ago and just talk off the cuff for a long time so this is bread and butter so um while we're sort of
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talking about it i also saw jd vance go on theo vaughan's show recently as well because they they sort of
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did the the podcasting sphere in the run-up didn't they and jd vance came across as like the most normal
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guy ever there's a point where they were talking about um american football and i was just like this
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just sounds like two men at like a barbecue having chit chat i was just like this this is really weird
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that he's you know potentially going to be the vice president and he's talking like such a normal guy
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and it just it comes across as so much more likable and maybe the commander-in-chief himself
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in four years time that's true yeah it does seem to be that he's being courted for that that role
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doesn't it it's not unheard of for vps yeah i think also it was uh it was a really funny interview at
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times i don't want to anticipate but are you going to talk about the um the segment where he's talking
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about landing in the middle east somewhere at night yeah yeah i could do again there's loads
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of things i'll keep it no go ahead no go it's just funny because i mean he said that they had all the
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lights turned off at air force one and he was a bit grumpy he was saying we're paying trillions of
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dollars why can't we have the lights which it's a bit endearing because on the one hand it's a bit
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it's it's like a spoiled child but you can't be mad at him right at the same time it's just so funny
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yeah we've spent what is it like eight trillion dollars it's been 20 years and we still have to
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land without our lights on because we might get attacked yeah but anti-aircraft weapons if we're
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in an undercover mission yeah presumably you don't want to be seen yeah no it's crazy um i just thought
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it was it was interesting because um he comes across as well who he is that's the thing about trump
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like him or loathe him what you see is what you get that's part of his appeal isn't it why he's so
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popular is that you know he's not a career politician because he's not giving these well
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rehearsed answers and that's why when he said something controversial it made him more popular
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and it is that thing that i think joe rogan said explicitly this at one point um and i completely
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agree with him that people are just sick of the professional career politician having a sort of lion
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a political lion a party lion which they stick to rigidly um there's so many examples of that when
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they're asked a question and they give an evasive politician's answer they're asked the question
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again and they just repeat the exact same line again and again and it's a disingenuous answer in
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the first place people are sick of that we don't want that anymore right it's not 1960s soviet era
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just be a normal person and if you actually can't answer it for a proper political reason you can say
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that as well i mean trump did that once or twice when joe roger said now what exactly would you say
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to putin and zelinski and he said oh i can't tell you that because then the deal wouldn't necessarily
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work and i'm not going to tell you that but i've got a reason for it however i did it like that's okay
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if there's something to do with national security you say well it is actually a national security thing
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so i can't tell you that but otherwise and you carry on being a normal fluid human being i think that's
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what people want above all else i know that's what i want i hate it when you see some would-be
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politicians i don't know why angela rayner popped into my mind but someone like that where they tried
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the interviewer tries to put them under pressure and they just say the same nonsense line over and
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over again or kamala does it all the time because they've got nothing else because they're a weird
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cutout of a person it's like being brainwashed yeah and we're so much attacked by that this ideology
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in culture wars that you're supposed to say this you're supposed to say that and if you deviate
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from these lines in any way you're just going to be destroyed people are tired of this again like
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being a soviet-era diplomat there's the one thing you're allowed to say and if you deviate even a word
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from that then you're in trouble you know well a lot of politicians you know that they're just bodies
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to occupy space for other interests really aren't they they're not really there to actually speak
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their mind a lot of the time a lot of political systems in europe and north america and elsewhere
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are sort of set up with that in mind these days so funny something just came to my mind i hadn't
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planned to say it but with formula one drivers it used to be the case when i was a kid back in the 80s
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and even the early 90s a bit um they would always do that it's a party like they'll say your car wasn't
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very good today you seem to struggle with grip and they'd always say the car is great the team is
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brilliant and like they do that and at some point in the late 90s or in the 2000s they just became
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honest they said yeah it was really bad we've got loads of work to do i'm really disappointed we
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weren't able to nowadays f1 drivers are really honest like immediately after the race they say
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yeah we struggled with this or that and it never used to be the case they used to always have like
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a party line they'll be like a bit of a robot everything's fine like you know everything's not fine
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right i think that's that's what people want with their politicians now just just be a human be honest
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and be normal well yeah people can tell when they're being lied to can't yeah yeah even little
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kids can tell what nearly always when they're being bullshitted basically um okay so let's talk about
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what was in it a bit if i run through some of the less interesting things because i think towards the
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end of the interview they got into things anyway i found more interesting um so they talked a bit about
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the view they started off talking about the view where before trump was for 2016 they would they
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loved him and they'd have him on all the time and he was like their funny new york sort of right-ish
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leaning guy and they would always have him on because he was an actually he was a democrat back then
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it was sort of a fairly vocal democrat for most of his adult life um joe asked him about what it was
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like to be president what's it like i thought that was quite interesting to you know go to the white
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house for the first time and trump said it was surreal he found it surreal sort of going to the
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lincoln bedroom and the lincoln bed it was literally lincoln's bed is still there and stuff
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and he said it was sort of surreal which is interesting but like you get used to it like
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almost anything else as it's being president of the united states or having to get used to
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solitary confinement in a jail eventually you get used to it whatever it is that struck me actually
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because that that made me think while he was saying it like he has such reverence for
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the history of it because he's talking about lincoln's bedroom for ages and how tall it was
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and all the history that's gone on there and then he just says yeah but then eventually you
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get used to it and that sort of makes you think okay yeah well he's being honest if it were
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someone else they would say oh yeah it was amazing i i'm so grateful for it and then they
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just leave it they wouldn't say you get used to it but that's like that's showing a genuine
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attempt to actually reflect reality rather than pursue what is in in your short-term self-interest
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it's true though most people must know it in their own lives there's something you think
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you would never be doing or you wouldn't ever achieve and once you do it's just suddenly
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commonplace you're podcasting right yeah i never thought i'd be doing this yeah no i've had it a few
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times in my life sort of yeah like um one one time when i was started working at a big company or jp
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morgan i thought wow those guys are something different like they're a cut above they've made it in the
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city they're jp morgan employees that deal with funds and stuff wow and then within a few weeks
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it's just nothing it's just nothing or making a bit of money or whatever it is or when i first went
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to you because i came from a very working class london background and never really dreamed i'd go to a
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really great university and read classics when i did for a little while i was like a little bit
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awestruck but very quickly oh yeah it's nothing actually it's just normal it's just what it is even
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with being president apparently that's the case it's interesting to know anyway moving on um
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yeah um i love i i do find trump entertaining that like his patterns of speech and what he says
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um he mentioned at one point that washington dc is a terrible place and he is i think when you look at
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the crime statistics in washington dc it's pretty bad i think it was even worse back in the 90s but
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it's still pretty violent i know that um connor said that when he was last there he went to a coffee
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shop and there was a uh an urban scholar um spreading his scholarly word to the the people
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working there right basically abusing the staff i think like a lot of cities there'll be nice places
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and then there's the horrible bits uh but trump just said um he's going to bring washington back
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he's going to make it great again um yeah so joe asked him about um how difficult it is to appoint
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people because that was one of the crises even one of the criticisms i had of trump in the 2016 to 20
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period was that he appointed a few duff calls and trump said it's actually quite hard because there's a
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reason why people that get appointed over and over again is because they've got the experience they know
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what they're doing and they've already been vetted so you pick someone that you think is great and
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you think you know all about them but then the media point out that actually they did something
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really bad in their past and you never even knew about it and yet you've already appointed them to
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some senior position and and the way to get around that is someone that's been in the game for 30 years
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already but the media have already trawled over their past and so they're sort of a safe pick
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vetting is quite a slow and expensive process as well so you can i thought i did think it was
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interesting that he pointed that out because it was basically quite an acceptable reason why he did
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what he did because he did pick some quite establishment people in his first time as president
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but also what i think we need to bear in mind is that when he is in the let's say the top officer
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of the us you have a massive portfolio you can't be taking all the decisions yourself when you're in
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these positions you have to outsource decision making to other people you can't you have to do
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it so at the end of the day you have to rest on other people and depend upon them yeah as chief
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magistrate in the very early days the stakes are always made yeah so for example we picked john bolton
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um and it's funny they've fallen out massively since john bolton just calls him really really
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stupid he's got an empty mind and stuff trump called him a nut job a whack job i thought that
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was quite funny and it reminds me of um there was one point where someone said to lincoln that
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there's lots and lots of people asking for positions there's far too many people asking for
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positions compared to how many there are to give out and lincoln said there's there's too many pigs
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for the tits i think that's a great quote i love that quote of president lincoln and uh trump didn't
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say that but um that's a perennial thing if you're the head of government there will always be loads more
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people insisting you give them a job than than there are to give out that's the nature of it um
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but yeah joe said joe said straight to trump's face that you said some wild
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it free balling and trump just like was laughing and smiling it's like yeah that's yeah that's how
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i roll um i did think that joe was it's just like you've got a former president on here and joe was
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like cutting him off and finishing his sentences and i was like hang on a minute yeah i i was quite
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surprised i thought joe would be a bit more reserved i suppose he felt like he had to um
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keep a little bit of control because it is a politician at the end of the day and you don't
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want you don't want them taking over your show so to speak and making you look weak so that's what i
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sort of explained it also it's just a conversation right it was just a conversation and joe rogan um
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you know is pretty i mean if i was to call him impartial might not be quite right but just give
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someone the chance to speak and just have a conversation with him that's what he said if you ever got kamala on
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he wouldn't just be teeing her up for her answers he'd try and have a conversation with her and i
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think that's what it was but yeah he did cut him off a couple of times which uh but hey joe rogan's the
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the biggest in the game right um i think uh trump probably in this small window of time when we're only a
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few days out trump needs joe more than joe needs trump right now that's probably true um so imagine
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saying that though just like yeah i cut off a former president in in a conversation finished
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his sentences he's taking too long yeah um so they talked about the 60 minutes clip uh the 60 minutes
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cbs 60 minutes interview kamala did and what a sort of softball thing it was and that how they edited
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her answers to sound coherent when you want when you watch the unedited thing it just wasn't and um
00:41:40.060
um trump described that as election interference and fraud that's a quote it's not too far off
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really um yeah they talked about how the morale of cops in america has been destroyed over the last
00:41:54.780
four years like the defund police thing is completely insane of course that's the opposite of what a
00:41:59.980
normal society would do and i talked all about tariffs trump talking about how maybe you might
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abolish or massively lower just income tax in general and raise tariffs and all sorts of things
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like for example put 100 or 200 tariff on chinese manufactured cars for example if you want a car
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in america that's manufactured in china yeah it's going to cost you through the nose so you're probably
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not going to do it you're going to buy american and that that you talked about mckinley he was the king
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of tariffs um again where he said we had a horrible tax policy i made it great just a classic trump
00:42:36.380
idiom right all of tax was bad and i made it great um i i would like to say that a lot of the things he
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said on the economy i was pleasantly surprised at um how good he was on that i was just like i agree
00:42:51.100
with everything he said it's really good stuff and the fact that he was just like yeah i'm thinking
00:42:55.820
about getting rid of income tax in its entirety and replacing it with tariffs sounds good it's a
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businessman and an entrepreneur and uh and uh a sort of a building guy for most of his life right so
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he's actually lived out what it means to be an entrepreneur he's actually lived it out i mean when
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they talked about environmentalism he said how it's just all the all the red tape and all the endless
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environmentalist things that hoops you have to jump through makes it incredibly difficult to get
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things built i mean like elon was saying we might be illegal to build the infrastructure to go to mars
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and the moon soon if the lefties had their way i have a question because i didn't see all of it
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particularly the economics bit a slashing in income taxes music to my ears but did he say much about
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printing money no because you could say that printing money is an indirect income tax did he
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address this or not not no towards the end they talked a bit about very briefly about the deficit
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yes trump was saying he had brought it down a bit and now it's gone crazy again and but he didn't
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actually talk about quantitative easing yes or the fed printing crazy amounts of money no because the us
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that is going to be one of the major problems of his presidency if he gets elected well if
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anything causes a systems collapse across the whole world or certainly the west i believe it will
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come out of america's deficit and debt issues um i don't think i'm going out on a limb there i think
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anyone knows what they're talking about would probably agree with that uh talking about uh they briefly
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talked about homelessness and when gavin newsome cleared up san francisco for a few days
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when um was it xi jinping came over or something that's right yeah and then and then let it all
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go back to pot again straight away afterwards joe rogan even mentioned that crap map do you remember
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we've covered it yeah i think calum covered it joe rogan mentioned that which is quite funny um
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it talks about how dystopian modern mind windmills are um and that nuclear may well be the answer to a lot
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of the well trump was a bit hesitant to say that wasn't he he was based i think what he was trying to err on the
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side of is oil and gas and coal drill baby drill yeah america's got uh the united states has got
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massive oil reserves massive canada has also got gigantic oil reserves they don't need to be
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importing crazy amounts of oil from saudi arabia or kuwait or anything um they briefly talked about the
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assassination and that trump's here there's not a massive chunk missing from his ear or anything
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which is interesting but trump said uh quote it makes me a tougher guy just sort of choosing it i
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mean it's kind of undeniable good way to talk about an assassination attempt yeah yeah they talked about
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that gives him street cred yeah that's exactly what he's saying yeah yeah that's why he said that's
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why he's surgeon with the black voters isn't it it's like he's literally me yeah he's been shot
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taking a cap um yeah um they talked about kamala and the in trump's opinion trump's humble uh she's
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just she's just dumb she's got really low iq iq he said there's something missing there's something off
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with her and later called her an imbecile again reasonable take perfectly reasonable take as far
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as he listens to her for five minutes can tell that yeah yeah um talked a bit about the the the
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military and you know what a travesty pulling out of afghan or the way they pulled out of afghanistan
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was leaving billions of dollars worth of materiel there um just a complete travesty uh trump called
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the generals that did that stupid fools arrogant fools when we when he went to afghanistan he got down
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to business right away and done deals with some of the afghan warlords there and he said that if
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biden had gone there he just would have taken a nap and then left without having a meeting with
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senior brass i thought that was funny um again trump you can accuse him of being guilty of hyperbole
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sometimes i think he just said i rebuilt the military yeah i i don't i mean i think that was quite
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the case to an extent sure but i mean anyway um it was hilarious when joe mentioned the time he talked
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to um the leader of north korea and trump recounts that he said to him yeah sure you've got a big red
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button i you can launch nukes but so have i and my buttons bigger and he said little rocket man you're
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gonna burn in hell that's hilarious to me was that to his face i sort of well i think i think it was
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over the phone i think it might have been to his face it may have been to his face actually it wasn't
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either way that's that's brilliant and hilarious and um it clearly worked didn't it right well it
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that's the point yeah that's the point it's not just funny for the sake of it it worked though
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there was a tweet that he sent to kim jong-un uh i remember but it was an infamous tweet and he was
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saying basically that you know you're gonna we're gonna bring you fire like you've never seen before
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something like that yeah yeah it's a classic thing going back to the cold war gonna turn you
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back to the stone age we're just gonna bounce rubble drop nukes on an already nuclear wasteland
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i mean north korea is not too far off the stage anyway uh but little rocket man you're gonna burn
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in hell okay talks a little bit about the enemy within which you know that's one of the things that
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his political opponents accuse him of being both uh the austrian painter man but also mussolini and
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starling all of these things all at once because he mentioned the enemy within although it just simply
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there's a case like us have been flooded by uh foreign people that are quite often criminals
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uh he he talked about how they've some foreign countries in central or southern america have
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emptied their jails and sent them over there seems to be a statement of fact yeah of course it is um
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he's described springfield ohio as a horror show population in the 50 000s dropped 30 odd thousand
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foreign people into their communications and mainly haitians yeah well the aurora colorado's
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has been sort of overtaken by ms13 um mentioned the the immigrant app where there's like an actual
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app where you can go on and i mean just the insanity list goes on and on and on they talked about rfk
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which i thought was interesting because i've heard rfk on a number of policy points i'm like oh i don't
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i don't like that i know he's a darling of all sorts of people even some center rightist people like rfk
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i think on a lot of things i just don't agree with his world view but he's now in the trump
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camp and on some things he's good on big pharma on big pharma rfk is great right so trump said um
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you know i'll keep him away from environmentalist stuff but um let him go crazy on the big pharma
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stuff it's great i used to have back in the 19th century we sometimes britain would have a thing
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called a government of of um all the of all the greatest talents a government of the talent so
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you would have ministers from the other parties we just don't really do that nowadays it's not
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really done bipartisanship yeah true bipartisanship so there's someone from the other party that's
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actually an expert on health or something and you have them as your health minister you don't care that
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they're from the other party you know so if trump does put rfk in government that'd be extremely
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interesting and very very rare used to happen a lot more in centuries past we don't really do it
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anymore was this also not the case during the cold war in the us you would have occasionally occasionally
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have people from both parties occasionally you would do it yeah yeah um yeah you don't really see it
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much anymore i mentioned uh hillary um trump said he saved her from jail he could have put her in jail
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um he called comey a stupid son of a bitch called him a hog if anyone remembers comey um yeah um
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i'd go further than that myself uh they talk about how tim waltz is just a complete disaster
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zone uh which he is um joe rogan at one point asked him why is america and um being flooded by
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uh criminal immigrants and uh trump said well it's because they hate our country or that there's
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just that and then it's either that they're stupid or that they're just trying to buy votes
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and it's got to be one of those things and i'd agree with that i mean i would say it's not because
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they're stupid it's very deliberate it's very cynical in my opinion seems absolutely clear
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no absolutely again working towards some sort of anarcho tyranny or just ruining the fabric of our
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societies um uh and then the last few bits which i thought were interesting and worthy of note
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so joe asked him about jfk the jfk files and trump said that almost immediately upon entering office
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he would open up all the remaining unopened jfk files um and trump said it's time it's a cleansing thing
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so i've got my fingers crossed for that i suspect from everything i know and and have read
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um anything truly truly damning has already been quote unquote lost and so there isn't actually all
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that much left to reveal but who knows i could be completely wrong about that that could age very
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very badly and trump could reveal more files and it just says yes alan dulles ordered this and jim
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angleton got the team together the cia guys it might be that i don't know but i'll be very very interested
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to see what is left to actually release i think a lot of the stuff has was burnt a long time ago
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documents and things lost so we'll see but if trump does that um he was a tiny bit cagey about it
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because joe asked him what have you seen as president you're allowed to see and we knew
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back in 2016 you saw some documents which the rest of the world haven't seen what have you seen tell us
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and trump was a bit like um well you know it was a bit cagey but again if it's truly national security
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he said there's still people alive that it could affect yeah that's kind of the point right yeah
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so we'll see about that and the other thing last second penultimate thing i want to mention
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it mentioned is that joe asked him about aliens are there anything brought up you know commander
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favor and the tic tac and stuff and trump said yeah there's no reason there's no reason not to think
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that there's something out there trump said himself when he was in office he spoke to quite a few
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military commander like um radar guys or pilots that told him all sorts of stories of yeah there's
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just like sphere shaped i've covered it on the website i tried to get karl to believe it and he
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wouldn't believe it i tried to basically pin him down like in clockwork orange and open his eyes and say
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look it's happening trump said and this is a quote there's something there yeah there seems to be
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something there yeah i don't think commander favor is making things up whole cloth so yeah
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there's something oh it's not only commander fravor but a few other people as well that were senior and
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also lost out in their careers you know coming out and saying it kind of ruined their lives to a certain
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extent so there's no incentive for them to lie about it quite the opposite well i think nasa this and the
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cia and other intelligence services have gone before congress and said look there's all these
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unanswered questions and we don't know the answer to it this is recently in the last couple of years
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that has been actual was it the congress or senate either way sort of open hearing the senate open
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hearings talking about it saying there's all sorts of unidentified things flying around our airspace and
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low earth orbit and we the us air force nasa ca we don't know what they are it's not us and we don't
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know what it is so that's a matter again that's just a matter of record right so anyway it's interesting
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um okay um so there's one other issue i do want to talk about that was the nature of the 2020 election
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but at this point um we're going to stop putting what we're talking about here on youtube because we
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just can't talk about it so if you're watching this on youtube the segment will end now-ish and if you
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want to know what we're going to talk about in the next few minutes um you'll either have to go over
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to rumble or something like that or odyssey we're on odyssey or on our website or on our website
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lotuscetus.com go over there where you can see us talk about the next thing so that's the end of the
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segment for youtube all right now we can talk all about the fortification of the 2020 election because
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they talked about it a bit a fair bit and trump didn't pull his punches um he said i won that second
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election eat with so easily he called it so crooked rigged robbed and stolen
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so again then they went on he talked about the the russia hoax if anyone remembers the um
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the 51 intelligence very very senior i did all the hunter biden stuff and it was so obviously genuine
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at the time before they even came out those 51 intelligence officers it looked to be genuine
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because there were lots of pictures of hunter biden it was unmistakably him and it's just like how can
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these pictures be here if if they weren't genuine and trump just straight up says they lied um i did an
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article a while ago now when was it in june 2023 called in the shadow of mockingbird if anyone wants to go
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over again to lotus eaters.com if you're if you're not already on that website watching this read that
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i think it's i think it's one of my more interesting articles reference to operation mockingbird isn't it
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so back in the 70s there was the church uh senator church um they looked into all the abuses of the
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particularly the cia but other intelligence organs of what they were doing throughout the 50s and 60s and
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70s of just manipulating the media in all sorts of ways um and i said we're still living in the shadow
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of that after the church hearings and the rockefeller hearings the intelligence services of the cia said
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okay we'll stop doing that okay hands up you got us we completely manipulated all sorts of media
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things but we'll stop doing it now they obviously haven't but yeah just to mention the open letter
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these 51 intelligence they were really really senior guys leon panetta john brennan mike hayden
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some of the most senior people in the in the intelligence apparatus royalty of the intelligence
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apparatus all just completely lied about the hunter biden laptop completely yeah frank forrester church the
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third um and yeah we still sort of still sort of we're in the shadow of it still uh so anyway but
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other things i mean specifically on the fortified election of 2020 uh trump was talking about uh
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mailing mail in ballots ballot harvesting and lock boxes and all sorts of things uh i'll bring it to
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a close thing so i've gone over a little bit but um yeah it's just saying that there's not a free and
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fair press you know what they got there's up to do for example among many other things um and the whole
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voter id stuff um again newsom in california it's just the only reason for that saying you don't need
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an id to cast a vote the only reason for it is to cheat there's no other reason there's literally no
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other rationale for it um and trump says a lot of things are still going through the appeals court he
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said that appellate judges i.e the judges in appeals courts they need to be honest otherwise we don't have a country
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that's a quote again again very very true um so okay um i'll leave it there if you are interested
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it is a three-hour conversation you can find it very easily on youtube uh but i'll leave the segment
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there right so the world of wwe is full of scandals it's scandal upon scandal and we are going to talk
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about some new developments some rumble rants apparently oh jeff we have to have to read
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those don't we sorry okay do you want to read you uh sure where where do i start from the top it's
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all right i'll just start from the top those ufos flying around haven't contacted contacted us yet
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because we're too stupid to colonize venus and instead are obsessed with mars bad tag i don't i don't
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well i'm a pro mars guy um true story came to me in a dream okay um that's a random name said that
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they also that's a random name also said uh also tulsi gabbard and rfk jr have joined the republican
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party all right i didn't i know she she's stumping for him i didn't realize she'd actually joined the
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party um bezos had ruled that nobody at amazon should take a side on the elections uh it truly feels
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like the last alliance of elves and men against sauron yeah um what's this uh bald eagle seven
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eight seven says apparently a federal judge just ruled that accepting mailing ballots after election
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day is unconstitutional yes if that's true that's cool uh well it won't impact this election oh uh it
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will impact future elections if it's upheld by uh the president um that's a random name also said uh the
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reason i say this is because every explanation i guess oh that's aliens again that's um no the
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the comment before is after watching the podcast it became clear to me why trump was
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where he is in life i fully understand how he became a billionaire and president he's probably
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the highest iq president since i wouldn't say reagan's high iq but um the reason i say this is
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because every explanation he had for his decisions was perfectly reasonable every time he spoke you
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could see how he actually understood what he was talking about i mean that doesn't you don't
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necessarily have to be high iq it's just that most politicians are trying to evade the truth or a low
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iq thank you i was reading those out of sequence so thanks for that's all right um so the i think
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it's that yellow one that last one rumble quaker says three of my favorites congrats on your wedding
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stellios thank you like the beard very much bow and joshie i had a trim i had a trim so it's not the
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full liam danica wild man um you had me at goblins uh you're one of my segments yeah you're great fun
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uh early am greetings from an old cat lady in las vegas well thank you very much good morning
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right so the world of wwe which is world wrestling entertainment is full of scandals it's scandal upon
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scandal and uh there have been some new developments into the infamous ring boy scandals which we're going
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to talk to you about in this segment but what is interesting to know is that all of it right now
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is allegations and we're going to report them as allegations because it's an ongoing investigation
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with that other out of the way we need to go to the next link we have more trouble for vince mcmahon
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baba and the boys react to new allegations connecting him and linda mcmahon to historic wwe scandal
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dating back to early 90s with abuse claims resurfacing in the ring boys lawsuit could this be the final blow
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to vince's tarnished reputations let us play this out loud i'm gonna put it here vince and linda mcmahon
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named in the wwe ring boys lawsuit but this is old news right i mean the pat patterson thing like
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everybody knew that right that was that was the mid 90s everybody knew it but i don't think that that
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stops a ring boy from filing a lawsuit vince mcmahon is facing yet another lawsuit this time the former
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wwe honcho is being accused of ignoring claims of it was made by former employees known as ring boys
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do we believe the ring boys or do we doubt them like the lady i believe you believe okay i was
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traveling with hogan at this time and pat patterson had a kind of a ring boy rotation pat patterson wanted
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to have his way with him back at the hotel later that night pillar to post man you know vince knew about
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it all vince knew about i mean if i knew about it and i was just hogan's friend hell yeah vince knew about
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it vince vince is the biggest micromanager i've ever known does that go personally on vince brian or does
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that go corporately on tko i think it could go both you throw as much a crap against the wall and see
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what sticks right yeah so what happened was that in the early 90s there was a scandal there were some
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allegations called ring boy scandal and what happened was that there have been some people who were
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involved particularly from wwe one was mel phillips the other one was pat patterson who had allegedly
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some young boys from underage young boys from aged 13 plus who's new to me i followed wrestling a bit
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i've never heard of ring boys scandal before well i don't follow it that closely obviously but it's just
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it's just horrible yeah it's absolutely horrible yeah and to be very fair and honest i don't know if we
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can cover the entirety of it in just one segment it's just a very deep private hole so what happened
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was that they were using their fame and their power within the wwe organization and they were
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in a sense luring young boys who were who really liked the the idea of wrestling and the idea of
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contributing to to all these wrestling matches somehow and they were telling him that they were
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going to give them a job and they essentially took sexual took advantage of them sexually speaking
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these are the allegations uh no one has been charged but a lot of money has been given here or there
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we'll give you the details in a minute vince mcmahon is the owner of wwe and linda mcmahon is his wife
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now tko is the a sort of merger between wwe and ufc and as you will see we're going to give you plenty
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of context because there are so many scandals and allegations that we really have trouble trying to
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tell you what exactly what happened so what they're accused now is of covering up these scandals there are
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separate scandals uh in which he is accused of sexually abusing people vince himself vince mcmahon
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but in this case people are accusing him of actually knowing what was going on with a scan
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with a ring boys scandal and they as the previous uh guys were saying he was a micromanager and there
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are several indications that he actually knew about the role of mel phillips and one of one of which is
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that in the 80s in 1988 he fired him there are rumors that he said that he knew that he had an
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unhealthy interest in young boys but then again for some weird reason after six months he rehired him
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it has been said that he rehired him on the pro on the condition that he wasn't going to
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be close to young boys anymore but a lot of people are saying that nothing of the sort happened and mel
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phillips carried on in wwe without being just say it reminds me of watergate there's the actual crime
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itself and then there's covering up completely separate crime yes like nixon there's this third
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rate break into some office building and then okay so that's a crime but then lying about it eight for
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years and covering it up that's a whole different set of things exactly and they say here vince mcmahon
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along with wwe have been accused of failing to prevent the alleged sexual exploitation of boys
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by ringside announcer the lawsuit filed wednesday in baltimore county this is last week maryland
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alleges mcmahon his wife linda and wwe ignore rampant abuse of so-called ring boys and the boys as young
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as 12 in some instances were allegedly abused by ringside announcer melvin phillips jr in the 80s and
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the 90s right so we have the lawsuit it should be here in the documents we have the fifth link please
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yes so we are going to open it in a bit so there are allegations as this according to the the lawsuit
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yes so there are five anonymous people john does who are saying essentially that they were sexually
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abused and i have here some of the basic allegations john doe number one says that mel phillips
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raped him when he was 13 years old john doe number two says that phillips invited him to a dressing room
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and wrestled him and put him on the ground and violated him john doe number three was 14 years old
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and phillips was pinned to the ground and pinned to the ground in a hotel and sexually abused john doe
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number four says alleges that he was abused at a wwe show and john doe number five says that he was
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forcibly intoxicated and taken to a hotel right so we are going to show you here page three of 82
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from the lawsuit it's clauses paragraphs two and three that are particularly important and they're
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saying phillips's real motivation in luring the ring boys with the promise of gaining access to the
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popular wwe events was to sexually abuse them and vince vince mcmahon knew it admitting that he was
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aware at least as early as the 1980s that phillips had a open quote peculiar and unnatural interest
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close quote in young boys mr mcmahon has never denied making that admission despite countless instances
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over the last four decades where if it were untrue he would have stridently denied it so he hasn't denied it
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that's suspicious if someone if someone used my name and said something of that sort i would
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straightforwardly go and say no you're you're this is libel i'm taking action against you
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and here paragraph three defendants knowingly gave philip free reign to use his highly highly public wwe
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personality and image to entice local kids from the area near the wwe shows to help set up and take down
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the wrestling ring phillips lured and manipulated the young boys with promises of meeting famous wrestlers
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and attending the highly popular wrestling shows experiences that were otherwise unattainable for
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these kids like many pedophiles phillips targeted young boys from broken homes and even routinely
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traveled with them in plain sight staying together in hotel rooms and driving in his car to wwe events and
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across the northeast corridor these are the allegations in a nutshell right so we need to talk a bit about the
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persona of vince mcmahon because he is uh very he's known he's also known for doing the meme
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where he's surprised and everyone is frequently showing his face when he's doing this and he has
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this persona of the person people love to hate yeah mr mcmahon was always a heel yeah in the 90s when he
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actually wrestled a bit as mr mcmahon he was always the heel yes and yeah he has some really weird
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things that he's doing some really weird stunts so here in front of his wife he is he is pretending to
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have a an affair with a woman in front of his wife yeah that is it it's all that's all theater though
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obviously yes he's being the heel oh look linda's in a wheelchair
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it's funny though yeah he has this you know that's gonna get cropped isn't it you laughing at
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someone being in a wheelchair well no it's just the whole the whole premise is funny yeah we also have
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another incident here because he had a beef with donald trump yeah and they each had champions and
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they said that you know the person who loses is gonna have shaved the other the his head and what
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happened here i'm not gonna show but obviously there's a stage but uh donald trump punches him
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at some point and he and and he loses and he's shaving vince mcmahon it's funny because vince always
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played the heel but he would obviously quite often get his comeuppance though like the number of times
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he's like doing something really horrible and out of order and steve austin just comes out of
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nowhere and just stuns him or something it's like here we have you had a good sense of humor this was
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called the battle of the billionaires much and uh we have trump here talking to the undertaker battle of
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the billionaires and that was with vince and me and you know we each had our wrestler he had um umaga yeah
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yeah we had uh two good guys and they wrestled and fortunately my guy won and the loser had the
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hair shaved i said i don't want to have my hair shaved and but we actually actually wrestled a
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little bit yeah you mixed it up a little bit no it was a pretty famous thing but uh i think it has
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your all-time record for for pay-per-view buys for everything yeah it was so this was you know the the
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persona this is something about the persona of vince mcmahon i hope mark calloway the undertaker
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isn't implicated in any of this well i don't think so considering he's just done an interview with
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trump i think you're all right i think it's all right then no i don't think that there have been
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any allegations for him so you're an undertaker fan yeah i love the undertaker yeah he's great i'm
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hoping for a hogan calloway ticket in like 2032 or something or 20 anyway
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a step closer to idiocracy that ruled by wrestlers right so there is something really horrifying about
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this because it says a lot about the industry if these allegations are true it says a lot about the
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industry because there are several questions as to why if you're a micromanager if your own if you own
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the company for decades if you're its owner and you have high profile people around you who are
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implicated in really shady behavior how come do you not know it if it's something that it's basically
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word on the street people around look at look at looked at mel phillips and pat patterson and they
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said they had lots of kids around them this isn't this is a normal behavior for an adult human being
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what are the likes what what are the probabilities that he didn't know it yeah unlikely if it's true if
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if they're true but it's like jimmy savile epstein uh pdd yeah it's just everyone knew yeah everyone
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knew and some people would even say it but it's whether when there's a tipping point when the
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authorities are actually prepared to do something about it or mainstream media actually talk about
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it openly um i guess it's just like a pdd or an epstein thing or jimmy savile yeah everyone yeah everyone
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you yeah the the thing though i don't know though that's an allegation it is i think it's beyond uh
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probable here that we're talking about areas where you know we have lots of high profile people with
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lots of power who have dirt on each other and they are using that dirt in order to manipulate each other
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and frequently in these cases when people have dirt on each other they're more likely to get in line
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and to abide by an agenda and uh when you are when you are in an organization and there are rumors i
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think the first thing you need to do is to address the rumors so there have been several scandals
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surrounding the name of vince mcmahon he hasn't been convicted yet but there have been lots of money
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given and lots of hash money given here there they are calculating around 12 million in payments to four
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women two of them alleged who alleged that he uh essentially abused them sexually this is new to me
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as well yes and they're saying here that in june 2022 wwe's board of directors stated started
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investigating a three million hush money payment and the board found that mcmahon had made 12 million
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in payments to four women two of whom alleged sexual misconduct this was not the first time mcmahon
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had been publicly accused of sexual misconduct in 1992 former wwf referee rita charterton alleged mcmahon
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raped her in 1986. the allegations again were that they were about to sign a deal and he unzipped his
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pants and told her that if you want the deal to go forward you'll have to satisfy me these are the
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allegations again it's very similar to pdd as well where he'll do a sex crime allegedly and uh just uh
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settle it out of court yeah and essentially get away with it if the other person if the victim is
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prepared to take the payment since when you've got a massive amount of wealth you can basically just
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buy people off and get away with stuff and that's sort of what we're seeing the consequences of
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in wider society more generally with the you know all of these various scandals so there are multiple
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now aren't there there are loads of elites that have been implicated in doing things like this
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it's always the same formula really isn't it of you know you you keep people quiet with fear about
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their career and you pay them off to deal with it and then eventually a critical mass emerges whereby
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it eventually takes them down i mean this is particularly sordid it's not like harvey weinstein
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where he'll make you a star he'll make you a hollywood a-lister you get to dismantle the ring at
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the end of an event that's that's here we have a really chilling uh allegation we have janelle grant
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who was a former paralegal who lived at the same apartment blocks as mcmahon he was she was get offered
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employment in wwe in 2019 and uh she alleges that after becoming employed she was constantly sexually
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abused by mcmahon and someone else called john laurenatis and they also had sex explicit sexual
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images of what happened and she alleges that they use these images to sort of lure some um some uh
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wrestlers in order to sign deals maybe they could say according to the allegation they could say well
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this is something that is going to function like a deal sweetener we are going there we're going to
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traffic her as a deal sweetener these are the allegations i feel compelled to say this every
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now and then because it's important so we have here also vince mcmahon agreed to a multi-million
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dollar settlement with a former referee who said he raped her in 1986 people familiar with the matter
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said so i i don't know about these cases because they're high pressure cases and you know i've never
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experienced something of the sort but if anyone accused me of something and and they had zero
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evidence and it's a libel i would just file a lawsuit against them because you don't play with people's
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reputation one's reputation is their livelihood so attacks on reputation are attacks on people's
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livelihoods so i don't know why this seems this seems suspicious to me let me just say obviously this
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isn't something when there's loads and loads of allegations it is worrying isn't it yes and we
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have lots of stuff coming up and they're saying um several deals they're saying here in wall street
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journal wwe's vince mcmahon paid out 12 million in settlements to suppress allegations of sexual
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misconduct and infidelity over the past 16 years the deals include a 7.5 million pact with a former
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wrestler who alleged that mcmahon coerced her into giving him uh sex and then demoted her into having
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sex with her and then demoted her and ultimately declined to renew her contract after she resisted
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after further sexual encounters people familiar say right so we have here several of the news about
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the lawsuit people can click on the links they're saying that essentially there are people who are
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saying saying that they were abused in the 90s and they and their justice hasn't been done one of them
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has died tom cole i think it is his brother who is uh filing the lawsuit on his behalf and we have here
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several lawsuits and we have here they're saying essentially vince mcmahon and linda mcmahon and are being
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accused for knowing in this case so just they are they are alleged that justice hasn't been served
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and they are accusing now vince mcmahon and his wife for for um for covering it up and if these
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allegations are true it shows a lot about these these places because it shows that a lot of people
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are really shady and they engage in quick pro quo deals and they say i'm not going to rat you out if you
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are not going to rat me out and there's a lot of money involved with these with such money they can
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buy people and a lot of people who are victims of such abuse they may feel that there is nothing they
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can do about it because the people who have abused them are so powerful and it's important to know read
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more about it and find out what happened right i think we should definitely speed up and we don't
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have any comments we should go on our video comments as a collection of isaiah berlin's more accessible
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essays a russian jew who moved to the uk berlin embodies all the high-minded thoughts and foolishness
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attendance such people criticism unfortunately interpreted as anti-semitism where even berlin
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notes jews are far more observant than they are intellectually sharp however his description of
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freedom is that people would far rather be oppressed and recognized than free and largely ignored this
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dichotomy can explain so much of the left of today no i i agree i think that it's one of those things
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that they teach politicians is you you tell them i i hear your concerns and that just that sentence alone
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nips it in the bud and a lot of the time nothing gets done this happened a lot with the conservatives
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in britain with immigration where they would just say we hear you and then all of a sudden people
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like okay something's being done about it when it's actually not you can get away with murder
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basically saying that not in a literal sense i was telling you guys a little story just before we
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came on about a cyberlin but i'll re-mention it again um in the 19 late 1950s early 1960s it was
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thought that there was a soviet mole right at the spire right at the top of mi6 it may may have been
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roger hollis may or may not have been roger hollis the head of mi5 and mi5 was um investigating it
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and they're going back to the 1930s looking at everyone that was involved with
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marxist students in cambridge in the 1930s at one point they interviewed desire berlin
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peter riot interviewed him and as i berlin just said yeah he just gave them all the dirt
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just said this guy's dodgy this guy's definitely in bed with soviets don't worry about this guy
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don't talk about this guy because he'll rat you out and on and on and on as i berlin knew everyone
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and just completely worked with our intelligence services so that's one thing i actually hold as
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i berlin some high regard for doing that he was completely on board with british interests
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like at the deepest most fundamental level um but i've not actually read much of his writing but you
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have haven't you still yes yes he has just really interesting writings a very interesting author we'll
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we'll have to do something about it at some point let's play the next video i heard a fun little
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rumor that donald trump is going to make mcdonald's use beef tallow to make their french fries again
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i think that sounds pretty nice it tastes better i guess that means that women's sports aren't the
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only thing he's going to kick the trans fats out of i don't think he's actually going to do that
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but it was a meme going around that he's going to change it because that's you know he's going to
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get rid of the seed oils and and make it with beef tallow again they would be so much better as well
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wouldn't they i mean using actual animal products rather than this horrible synthetic seed oil nonsense
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i don't know why people are so tolerant of it it's disgusting it'd be nice if you could get real
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mexican coke rather than the coca-cola made out of syrup as well let's go to the next one
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so i have finally made it to japan this is my first day enjoying the town of kabagoe just outside
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of tokyo this beautiful bell tower and in general amazing district resembling the old tokyo
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but even here i cannot escape the encroachment of modernity and the modern parasites which
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wear old stuff like a skin suit seems like a really nice neighborhood though have a nice time
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i'd love to go to japan i've not been there no me neither high up on my list same yeah i'd love to
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go let's go to the next one i find it hard to watch british tv shows from before the 2000s because i
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easily spot the propaganda whether it's allegories of the trans movement anti-british sentiments or
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scenarios where british patriots are villains and islamic migrants are heroes it stands out to me
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i wonder if it's just me or if others miss the subtle messaging i've noticed similar themes in
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non-british shows but they are often more obvious than in british ones no i wholeheartedly agree i spot
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stuff all the time now like any media i'm just like oh okay there we go there's a bit of messaging
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it's it's everywhere it's in most things right maybe i slightly misunderstood but did he did he
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say he doesn't like watching stuff that's older than 2010 or was he saying the opposite of that i
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guess i'm saying the opposite i think the opposite okay i thought so that makes sense um yeah going
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back and watching stuff from the 70s documentaries from the 70s or the 80s it's great where there's it's
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not pc at all but it's honest it's real yeah yeah absolutely there's still some great stuff being
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made though like loads of great film directors great tv shows it's it's not as much in the mainstream
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but if you know where to look it's there let's go the next one and now more wholesome content
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oh go on then no actually forget it yeah see josh even sometimes my dog doesn't return the frisbee
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it's not interested in doing so to be fair um my dogs used to bark at the frisbee rather than
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actually retrieve it they'd chase it barking at it and then it would stop and they'd sniff at it for
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a while and lose interest the dog i grew up with would go and fetch a ball or a frisbee bring it back
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but then not let you have it that's yeah that's what i was talking about out of their mouth and
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they won't let it go yeah right thanks for that is there a next one horrific moment knifeman towered
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over victim before stabbing him in sickening attack a 19 year old man stole a large knife and ran out onto
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the street the defendant came up behind the victim and said give me your phone the defendant then stabbed
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him in the back with a knife mohammed of avon road in wigan the defendant said that he had been
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suffering from mental health problems he said that he thinks differently to other people always mental
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very prophetic video comment there for my second
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he even stole the knife yeah let's play sam wesson following last week's lands hour i have a suggestion
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for those of you who are good at ai if someone out there is able to send in a video comment of trump
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discussing batman and robin that would be greatly appreciated okay we'll have to take a few extra
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minutes to read comments so do we have another video okay right so um henry ashman says missing the show
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today as i'm going in for surgery looking forward to catching this up once a good luck and i wish
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you a speedy recovery samson harris josh has the office burned down yet without me i'm thinking about
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it charles ellington stelios i just finished watching the mexican grand prix formula one how often
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are you compared to the hansom drivers i'm constantly compared with arton cena for some reason
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airton center yeah i mean there are worse people to there are worse people i like the idea that
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you're um you're moonlighting as a mexican f1 driver i like mexican food yeah so do i yeah look a
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little bit like carlos science jr maybe a spaniard maybe not really a little bit right calling someone a
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spaniard do you want to read some of your comments of course um let's have a look here matthew c says i'm a
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reform member and i am disgusted with farage and tice for not talking about this they need to be
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replaced if they continue to show no backbone yeah i i agree i i was thinking like maybe it would be
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good if they could at least drag the overton window a bit to the right and you know we continue dragging
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it further but at the same time i think that they're being too regime to even do that you know
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that there's a lot of optical things that they're getting wrong my fear was that people like connor
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and charlie downs are sort of saying that jenric being based which will draw nige to the right
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and i was saying i don't think it will no so far that seems to have been the case i haven't seen
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nige come out and one-up man jenric on anything i haven't seen that no i think nigel's operating on
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his convictions it's just that his convictions are not good uh paul uh whiston says bring back crime
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watch yeah that'd be good wouldn't it um and uh read the day says honestly can't get over the rage of
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the stabbing being unrelated to her death due to injuries i know yeah there's lots of rhetorical
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tricks involved here aren't there do you want to read okay i i can read yeah okay gabriel's uh seam
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same i was actually a little worried about trump going on rogan's podcast because trump does have
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a habit of rumbling sometimes i think that's fair but it was actually the weave it's the weave the
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way you said that then was like trump i think that's fair i did i did an english accent i can't
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do a trump voice i'm not going to talk to you but it was actually very reassuring three hours of
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really interesting discussion have you asked him if he'd chat to you guys i mean we've got no way
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of contacting him that would be cool of course but i mean i would i wouldn't say no to
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a chat with him trump we know you're watching come on um dear mr trump could you fix it for us
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to come on this is a weird name i'm not gonna say josh firm does something in the woods that's
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true i've done it once but it was horrible um i'm a camping enthusiast all right you know you can you
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can read between the lines it was a good interview i listened to it on the train on the weekend
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before i got sick it was actually a very good listen especially when they got onto aliens at the end
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lol federal agent note how he ended the podcast with how long has this been going i need to make
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a speech i would be exhausted after three hours of chat but this beast of a man keeps going what
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a physical specimen yeah he really likes likes talking you get used to it to be fair i imagine all
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of us have done grueling days of recording haven't we yeah where you you talk for a long time and then
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you get home and your brain is mush but you can not if you're well seasoned you can do a good six
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hours i reckon in a day arizona desert rat says i don't think it's it's best to put massive tariffs
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in place to replace income tax i think it will just lead to massive smuggling plus there are some items
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that i need that are just not made by us companies in my size right then and eloise says nothing is
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sacred even wwe all wrestlemania reruns and memories tainted if these allegations are true unfortunately
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but it's one of the things i meant to say on your segment but didn't but it's a crazy business
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and i'm not excusing anything that's not i'm not trying to make any excuses it's a crazy business
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filled with loads of suicides loads of drug taking loads of crazy because to be a wrestler you've got to
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be a bit crazy everyone says this right because they're taking real bumps right they're not really
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it's not a real fight like mma yet it's pretty real you don't fake jumping off a top turnbuckle
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they're really taking bumps right and some of the stuff with the you know razor wire they don't do that
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anymore but they used to some of the insane things that like mick foley used to do back in the day um
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you've got to be a bit a little bit crazy so yeah it lends itself to crazy dudes so i mean again
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that's not to excuse anything but yeah it's a crazy business always has it is always has it's such a
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deep rabbit hole we should definitely talk about it at some point so kevin fox to be honest is there
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any difference between wwe wrestlers and most politicians they're all actors playing a part to
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get the public to support them then go home and marvel at how stupid their supporters really are
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and karlane sloan oh no the form of entertainment that targets children and is massively homoerotic
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has pdf files in it call me shocked i agree with it because i think that the very idea of a man in
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this is just ridiculous just ridiculous i i really enjoy how internet censorship has made euphemisms
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hilarious like pdf files just like or talking about someone rather than saying the word retarded you say
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well-regarded you know they're well-regarded which is just there's there's a sort of funny poetic
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irony though on that note we have run out of time and hope to see you tomorrow at 1 pm thank you and goodbye