The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - January 14, 2025


PREVIEW: Brokenomics | 2025 Predictions


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33 minutes

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180.98364

Word Count

6,138

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9

Misogynist Sentences

1

Hate Speech Sentences

6


Summary

In this episode of Brokernomics, I give you my predictions of what the trends are and how they will continue to play out over the course of 2025, and what we can expect that to mean for BrokERNomics type stuff.


Transcript

00:00:00.320 Hello and welcome to Brokernomics. I join you from the coldest room in the Lotus Eaters.
00:00:05.280 This is somehow even colder than it is outside in here which should be thermodynamically impossible
00:00:11.440 but nevertheless we make it happen here and with my first episode of 2025 I wanted to give you my
00:00:16.960 predictions of what the trends are and how those trends are going to continue to play out over the
00:00:23.760 course of 2025 and what we can expect that to mean for Brokernomics type stuff. Well I say the
00:00:31.600 first episode of 2025 I did record a Q&A which got lost down the back of the sofa and you got that
00:00:37.200 last week but anyway here we are the first proper episode of 2025 what is happening and what will
00:00:43.200 continue to happen and what that means. So let's start off with a nice obvious one the political
00:00:48.880 narratives are changing so we're going to transition um you know well in only a few days
00:00:54.880 now maybe perhaps even a few days less when you get to see this uh to Trump taking over it is going
00:01:00.480 to be the rise of the fiscal conservatives we are getting a new suite of much younger much more
00:01:06.320 right-wing politicians coming in certainly in the US and those trends are also taking place over well
00:01:12.480 much of Europe not in UK obviously the big losers are going to be progressivism you know the woke
00:01:18.800 but not just on the left we're not just seeing losers there the old right the neocons uh the pro-war
00:01:26.240 types the um you know military industrial contract suppliers those guys the coke brothers they are all
00:01:33.440 taking a big L this year uh with the rise of Trump so I think the first uh main theme here is going to be
00:01:41.120 the you know populist populists versus establishment so um obviously that's been a you know a big shift
00:01:48.400 J.D. Vance, Vivek, Elon's influence um has um very swiftly displaced the uh you know the the
00:01:57.040 Shaneys the uh the John Boltons those sort of characters who who were basically controlling the
00:02:02.880 right uh well much of the it was a uni party wasn't it so it didn't make an awful lot of difference
00:02:07.360 and what we're effectively going to see is a big continual shift in the Overton window now
00:02:14.320 I think my stance on this and I was having this discussion with with Stelios yesterday
00:02:19.280 is that every party is a left-wing party you know the AFD reform they're all left-wing parties
00:02:27.360 and the reason for that is the entire Overton window has moved so far to the left that even
00:02:32.320 if you're on the right hand side of the current Overton window you are still a left-wing party and
00:02:38.800 the the that that window is going to move now I'm not sure whether we're going to see the emergence
00:02:44.160 of new political forces in 2025 but we are going to see the existing political forces that have a
00:02:49.600 rightward bent you know the AFD the reform um perhaps even the MAGA coalition as well are going to
00:02:56.160 find there is free space on their right which they are going to be able to uh move into and feel
00:03:01.280 comfortable expanding if that was their a bit of their tendency um the Trump coalition as we saw
00:03:08.640 uh we you know we've got the numbers now we saw Harry won he did very well amongst independents
00:03:15.120 moderates as the you know the US chaps call them it shows that there is a willingness from the public
00:03:23.040 to embrace the right hand side of the left wing Overton window if you get what I'm saying this should
00:03:28.560 make it an easy calculation that the correct thing for these establishment parties to do
00:03:33.840 is to start moving to the right and the left is going to be forced to do that whether they will
00:03:37.920 get there in 2025 is a distant question but we can certainly see you know a bit of an upswing in
00:03:43.920 in baseness uh starting to happen all over the board um as I record this um Trudeau has recently
00:03:51.200 announced that um he's going to be leaving uh that obviously they're going to try and shift they're
00:03:56.160 going to they're going to try and make this transition it won't matter Pierre Bolivar is
00:03:59.680 going to uh to win there anyway um the AFD which has to be incredibly cautious about its approach they
00:04:05.520 can open this up Le Pen uh I don't know if she's going to if she's going to make further political
00:04:09.920 gains in 2025 but you know it looks almost certain the establishment parties are still locking out of the
00:04:16.000 political system anyone that they perceive as a threat that is a mistake from my point of view because
00:04:21.440 like I say all all extant political parties are left-wing because they ascribe to a set of
00:04:29.120 assumptions which govern the current paradigm and all of those assumptions are left-wing and therefore
00:04:35.520 if the left wants to win they should actually embrace parties like reform AFD and Front National in
00:04:42.480 France because otherwise if they continue to lock them out of the system then people will simply stop
00:04:48.400 playing by the rules I will leave it as vague as that and um they will find out what genuine right
00:04:54.480 wing looks like uh and they and they're not going to like it um those um you know those um pro-war neocons
00:05:03.040 in the US uh they're going to find that they're going to be losing a lot of influence it's now um America
00:05:08.320 first is the is is the guiding doctrine even Trudeau and Starmer in the UK on a narrative basis are
00:05:15.600 starting to make some of the shift um Trudeau has been talking about deportations um Starmer has
00:05:21.920 acknowledged how um mass immigration in his country was a big conspiracy to uh replace us all which um
00:05:28.240 you know we all knew but you know thank you very much for at least mentioning that uh but but with
00:05:32.400 Starmer it is of course just messaging because he every time he's faced with a challenge such as
00:05:37.840 the Southport massacre or the gang rape of tens of thousands of children being exposed to a
00:05:43.280 international audience by Elon Musk his default is to simply say it's all lies and blame the far
00:05:49.040 right so you know obviously it's fake but they recognize the need to make that narrative shift
00:05:55.280 at an absolute minimum and actually isn't it striking how the left simply have they've just got nothing
00:06:01.200 absolute nothing um the the child gang rape scandal is in full flight at the moment
00:06:06.880 and you know you scroll through Twitter to see what people are saying about it and the the only
00:06:13.360 argument that the left can come up with is to claim that it is lies well evidently it isn't because we
00:06:19.280 have the receipts we have the testimonies we have um many many court cases that have gone through at this
00:06:25.600 point you know we've got it in black and white in court records that it's not lies it it actually happened
00:06:33.120 and there was a cover-up and the left have got nowhere to go on this there was no they've got no
00:06:37.760 outs um very unfortunate for them um even more unfortunate for the UK that we've recently just
00:06:44.080 had our election um and before that we had a nominally um right-wing party so our political revolution is
00:06:52.800 going to have to be postponed a bit um but perhaps that is a good thing because now the Tories have been
00:06:58.400 so completely discredited labor are trashing their reputation as a rate of not so they only got 20%
00:07:03.760 of the last election and apparently they've already alienated a quarter at least of their voters people
00:07:09.920 who actually voted for them in the last election so um you know this is this has happened before in
00:07:15.440 the early 19th century um the the the the old whig party well the the the old liberal party which is not
00:07:24.480 the same as the liberal democrats but the old liberal party they replaced um a hated tory government
00:07:29.200 and managed to be even worse and managed to get themselves destroyed and replaced by the labor
00:07:33.040 party you know perhaps something like that is coming as well um you know we we can hold out hope but
00:07:38.960 i mean essentially the problem is that the left won everything you know from from you know basically
00:07:43.600 the early 2000s onwards they they enjoyed complete cultural victory you know if this was a video game
00:07:49.840 the the end screen would have popped up by now saying you win and because they won they get to
00:07:55.680 basically indulge their worst instincts which given their lefties is is is very bad indeed
00:08:01.840 and and you never know quite how bad it's going to get with the left quite often it's famine but um
00:08:06.560 on this occasion in in this period of history they decided to um behave like chronos the um greek
00:08:14.080 god who devoured his own children so you know we've had a doctrine where we must let our daughters
00:08:19.520 be raped by immigrants and we must um castrate our sons um you know it's it it was quite mad but
00:08:28.000 that was the point they get to and it's obviously undefensible and anyone who has even a slight brain
00:08:32.640 in their head is not going to go for it so they've got nowhere to go um they are going to continue to
00:08:36.800 fail um do i predict that they are going to get their house in order and they're going to um cluster
00:08:42.000 around something like clinton style um uh you know left-wingery um you know clinton style democrat
00:08:48.720 will they make a return to that i i suspect not because they are so locked into the woke you know
00:08:56.160 woke has got escape velocity at this point you know nothing is stopping that train um that they have to
00:09:02.560 make that return to clinton style democrats but i don't think they're going to achieve it in 2025
00:09:07.360 um let me know in the comments if you think that they can speed run a return to clintonism um
00:09:16.480 i i i sort of doubt it myself other interesting thing battle of the billionaires of course uh we've
00:09:21.440 got to look at the you know the elites the power behind the throne uh well musk is up obviously um
00:09:27.360 the tech bros are up um you know mark andreessen is um you know be making some great points mark and
00:09:34.400 deal on the both former democrats i mean there's there's a whole swathe of tech bros who are you
00:09:38.880 know on the up at the moment and they are um very keen because they are essentially tech accelerationists
00:09:46.960 and it was impossible to achieve anything under the biden regime so a new class of billionaires
00:09:53.280 are circling in who is circulating out um the well gates bill gates um george soros you know these people
00:10:02.080 are um rapidly losing influence uh and on the right as i mentioned the um the the is it the coke brothers
00:10:10.400 or the coke i i never remember if it if you pronounce it cock or coke but anyway um the the second largest
00:10:16.960 private company in america coke industries or whatever it is that they do oil stuff um generate
00:10:22.880 revenues of over 100 billion a year um have have basically dominated the republican party for
00:10:28.880 you know perhaps 30 years and it's cost them billions to do it but they've basically been
00:10:33.840 able to shape right-wing politics uh for decades and clearly their their influence is um over certainly
00:10:43.280 at the top level i'm sure they still have influence at um you know the the intermediate levels uh because
00:10:48.480 of course um 30 years of buying people doesn't doesn't go away in one election cycle but um yeah there has
00:10:55.200 been a cycling of elites in the background um basically from old money to to new money well
00:11:02.720 you know another way of looking at it is from old families or boomers to to gen x um which is which
00:11:08.960 is very interesting that is a that is a theme i must explore at one point um let's quickly touch upon
00:11:13.440 while we're on the billionaire subject uh elon's h was it h1b1 whatever the visa situation um i i was out of
00:11:21.920 the low disease office when that was going in going on so i i didn't give my take on that uh i have
00:11:28.000 studied elon quite closely because um i went quite large on tesla stock when it was 12 a share back in
00:11:34.720 2019 and he wasn't as active as he is now but you know back then uh you know in my due diligence i
00:11:43.760 watched basically every interview that he'd ever given and i think i've got a fairly good idea as to
00:11:48.400 how the man the mind the man's mind works he is he's he's not like the rest of us he he is he runs
00:11:57.360 at a thousand miles an hour at all times he has this sort of relentless pace and it has allowed him
00:12:04.640 to become you know the most successful man on the planet he's achieved more than possibly anyone
00:12:11.280 ever um with you know possible exceptions of alexander the great and a few others but you know he
00:12:17.440 he's achieved a remarkable amount during his lifetime and he does it by being as i say a
00:12:23.840 thousand miles per hour on everything all the time so i don't think that he actually wants to
00:12:29.440 demographically replace um you know us he simply wants to solve his engineering problems as fast as he
00:12:38.640 possibly can and that means he just wants to grab whatever assets immediately now if he had if he
00:12:47.600 had delivered something first if he had you know worked with um trump and well i mean he doge is not
00:12:56.480 directly associated with deportations but if if we had got something like 10 million deportations out of
00:13:01.840 the us um and they had changed the gatekeeping that basically stops young white men and increasingly
00:13:10.400 young um uh asian men as well um well asian mean i think it's different things in the us and the uk
00:13:19.760 in the uk for some reason it means indians but you know asians i think in the us still means you know
00:13:25.200 sort of chinese japanese types all that all that sort of thing um you know um young white men and
00:13:30.880 increasingly young asian men were being purposefully excluded on the basis of dei and that's part of
00:13:39.840 the reason why you don't have that network of young engineering talent coming through because they have
00:13:45.040 been kept out if he had delivered those changes and you know the 10 million deportations and then asked
00:13:53.920 okay uh for a couple of years i've still got a shortage while this works through the system
00:13:58.800 um can i have some indians please i i think people would have gone with that but he he's too autistic
00:14:04.480 he's too short term he's um you know he he's running too fast and he didn't really think it through so
00:14:11.280 um i do forgive him um he he's been absolutely blindingly brilliant on the on the child rape gang stuff
00:14:20.800 um he he has been truly superb on that so i i forgive him um for the for the indian visa stuff
00:14:29.600 um i mean actually personally i i don't mind a little bit of you know taking the best and brightest
00:14:35.760 from the rest of the world but i mean it does have to be the top 0.1 percent of iq and ability
00:14:41.360 which which actually is a is a pretty tiny amount of people so i'm not too bothered if it's a tiny amount
00:14:47.440 of people as long as all the you know the mass stuff comes to a swift end um and actually um
00:14:55.120 you know perhaps i shouldn't say this but um you you could also make the argument if the best and
00:15:00.640 brightest of the rest of the world stayed in their home countries they could they could probably
00:15:04.720 achieve a great deal there and i just think if the very best and brightest of indian engineering
00:15:10.960 talent stayed in india quite possibly within a decade they could invent toilets so i i don't
00:15:16.880 think it is as simple as um elon first put it found it but nevertheless um it's like that old lenin
00:15:23.120 quote when you when you push the bayonet if you find steel back off and if you find mush keep pushing
00:15:28.800 uh what what what musk did is he is he found steel when he when he tried to go down the visa thing
00:15:34.960 and he found mush when he went for the child rape thing so so he so he swiftly pivoted um and i think
00:15:41.840 he's done very well um right moving on um actually semi moving on semi moving on i've got a question
00:15:48.560 and and and i might do it i might do a lotus eaters uh podcast segment on this is an idea that i've been
00:15:54.960 thinking about um if i'm predicting that woke is going away and that there is going to be a rise
00:16:03.280 of the right of the based and this is going to have popular support from the independence and
00:16:09.600 moderate so it's going to be a genuine shift of the overton window and it's a rising trend and all the
00:16:16.240 tech bros are behind it and all that kind of stuff and it becomes the thing well what did we see for
00:16:21.920 the last 20 years the thing was woke and woke got corporate sponsorship so you can go to any of the
00:16:29.440 big corporations any of the big banks and they will have basically an office of woke within them
00:16:34.960 you know you know i looked at the jp morgan example but jp morgan literally have a i mean they they call
00:16:41.120 it an lg t b plus well i i forget it now you know the alphabet stuff they've got an office of alphabet
00:16:48.560 stuff um where they basically bring in people on uh corporate banking salaries and say he's like okay so
00:16:55.680 here's here's you know 120 plus grand a year um do woke stuff and so that we can put it in our
00:17:03.120 annual report at the end of the year that we're doing woke stuff um what if and and and that corporate
00:17:11.040 sponsorship of the left ended up completely neutering them i'm i'm old enough to remember occupy wall
00:17:18.400 street and the messaging around that and it was nothing like what modern woke looks like the corporate
00:17:25.280 sponsorship hollowed out the left wokeness so my question which i've been pondering and what i want
00:17:32.400 to come back to is what happens if if if caught if the corporate world wants to start sponsoring based
00:17:41.280 what if they want to have an office of based what if they come to the lotus eaters and say we would
00:17:45.840 like to sponsor your work and give you money should we take it now um it's probably a slightly easier
00:17:54.000 question for me but most of those lads out there uh don't own a house and if somebody rocks up and
00:17:59.840 says we would like to sponsor you um you know it is 500 whatever grand a year and that means that you
00:18:08.240 know the poor chaps can basically afford a house and we can expand operations and hire more people and you
00:18:17.680 you know launch lotus eaters us and you know do all the other things that i've got on my list of
00:18:24.800 business development projects that we are which we are working through as best we can with limited
00:18:30.080 resources you know that that's going to be hard money to turn down um but you just got to be careful
00:18:36.240 because you see what happened to the left when they got corporate sponsorship uh that that's an idea i need
00:18:42.480 to develop um please give me any sensible thoughts on that in the comments and and and that one i want
00:18:48.240 to keep you know rattling through my mind until um um until we um you know settle on something that that
00:18:55.360 you know that's really worth saying on that uh next up let's do some quick fire on some big trends
00:19:01.520 to see where we are on them so uh number one let's start off with crypto um i i've talked at some
00:19:08.640 length on brokonomics about um you know what i'm expecting from from bitcoin and and crypto more
00:19:14.960 broadly in 2025 in the liquidity cycle all that kind of stuff not going to repeat that here uh not
00:19:20.320 really the focus of this particular episode um but i will make some um uh supplementary points around
00:19:26.320 them big one possibly being stable coins so the these are basically coins um that that try and trade one
00:19:35.200 for one with their underlying currency so you know examples like usdc and usdt um basically try and
00:19:43.280 rep so so that one dollar equals one of usdc so it is a literally just a dollar but on crypto rails um
00:19:52.480 the us government uh wanted to dislike them under biden but found that they couldn't and the reason they
00:19:58.800 couldn't is because the way that they duplicate the dollar is they go out and buy us treasuries to back
00:20:05.200 the dollars on the crypto rails and because they had grown so fast what that meant was that one of
00:20:12.640 the biggest buyers not yet the biggest buyer but close to being the biggest buyer of us debt is
00:20:19.680 stable coins and the us has an awful lot of debt that it needs to sell and therefore it found itself
00:20:25.680 in the position where it simply couldn't um you know be too harsh with these guys but trump's whole
00:20:32.480 approach to crypto is very different he he's an enabler he's an accelerationist on the tech front
00:20:36.640 that's why all the tech bros backed him so a proper regulatory framework for crypto is likely to emerge
00:20:45.680 that didn't happen under biden um the closest thing to a regulatory framework was basically enforcement
00:20:52.080 via prosecution so they'd never tell you what you could do they would simply say nothing until they
00:20:58.640 decided to prosecute you for doing something they didn't like which they couldn't for some reason
00:21:02.880 tell you that they didn't like it beforehand they they just do it all that way uh trump is committed
00:21:08.480 to laying down proper rules so that the companies actually know what they can do uh mark andreessen was
00:21:14.960 talking about this on um joe rogan not so long ago about how there was basically a war against anything
00:21:22.400 crypto related and that was being pushed through the banks you know anybody who had crypto in their job
00:21:27.440 title would find they just lost their bank account which is of course hugely disrupting um you know
00:21:32.640 the the the enforcement through prosecution as i talked about all of that are going to change there's
00:21:36.640 going to be a framework put in place these companies know what they can do they can get on they can
00:21:40.640 build they can accelerate why why do i focus on stable coins though because well put it this way
00:21:49.920 visa does something like four trillion in transactions every year and stable coins are already up to more
00:21:55.520 than double that so even under the biden regime which was hostile to this stuff they've doubled visa
00:22:03.120 and i don't think a lot of people have quite twigged just how fast this stuff has moved even under a
00:22:09.120 hostile regime so what's it going to do under a positive regime where they actually know where they
00:22:14.000 are and that companies can adopt it seamlessly um you know i mean the the obvious benefits are that
00:22:21.680 it's faster and far cheaper um so companies can move around money and instead of paying you know
00:22:29.280 three percent to visa or whatever they can basically do it for a tiny fraction of a percent and they get
00:22:35.600 final settlement quicker you can use it in all sorts of businesses a good example of this is going to
00:22:41.040 actually be el salvador so in el salvador they made it a legal requirement to accept bitcoin
00:22:45.520 so you can go into a mcdonald's or you know a hardware store and buy stuff with bitcoin using the
00:22:53.840 lightning network on your on your phone so you know all the big chains like mcdonald's and whatever
00:23:00.480 else i mean they all have branches over there they've all been forced to adopt it so they've got
00:23:04.320 a case study of how it actually works in the real world and of course they will be well aware that
00:23:12.560 oh my transaction costs have just gone from three percent to virtually zero and it works and i get
00:23:19.200 final settlement and it's fine and i've and i know how to account for it there's nothing to stop them
00:23:25.280 wanting to roll that out across the rest of the world because of those benefits so it really could be
00:23:32.400 quite fast in 2025 that stable coins or possibly bitcoin on the lightning network becomes a thing
00:23:41.680 that just pops up in your local shops uh because they've got no reason not to do it and they've got
00:23:48.480 lots of reasons to do it so that could be a quite a an interesting change that you better see of your own
00:23:54.400 eyes um there's other case studies as to why it's very valuable the the easiest and best example i can
00:24:02.000 possibly think of i mean there are many examples in the corporate world as to why you want to be
00:24:05.840 able to move large sums of money quickly and cheaply but a really good example is australia um the the
00:24:11.680 reason is because the us is moving from t plus three to t plus one settlement uh what do i mean by that
00:24:17.520 so so when you do a say you buy a stock um you've got the transaction plus three days to basically get the
00:24:25.200 money in why is it three days because when this stuff started people were on horses and
00:24:33.840 basically you would do your trade and let's say you did a trade just before before the end of the day
00:24:38.800 you know the next day you could write a check and put it in a post and a man with a horse could could
00:24:43.200 get it to um the settlement house um and it'd be processed in three days you know that was sort of
00:24:49.920 the minimum amount of time that they needed to needed to do it in a digital age um they basically
00:24:55.280 decided well it's all going electronically so therefore we don't need to do this on t plus three
00:24:59.360 we can do on t plus one why is that a problem for australia well because a lot of their stock trading is
00:25:05.200 going to be with the us market and because of the time zone differential basically that that t plus one
00:25:12.800 has already expired um before they're able to do anything even electronically they can't they just
00:25:20.880 can't process it that quickly so the only way they can do it is to adopt um stable coins um there are
00:25:29.120 many many other examples that i could give you for you know corporate treasuries and all the rest of it
00:25:34.320 but that but that one just makes the point so clearly you are going to see crypto emerge into your
00:25:40.160 daily life in the stores and the corporates are going to take it on and the banking sector is
00:25:44.880 going to take it on so that is going to be a huge acceleration which i think is is worth noting um
00:25:51.120 there's no point well unless you need to use them buying stable coins because you're not going
00:25:56.800 to see any upside because it is literally pegged to the dollar so you know the more people that buy
00:26:02.080 stable coins just means they create more stable coins to keep it at one to one um so well you can
00:26:08.480 actually buy you could potentially buy into the underlying companies like tether that offer them
00:26:14.720 um but and nevertheless i think that is a fascinating trend and will have knock-on effects for other
00:26:19.760 crypto industries which we'll know about be talking about through the course of 2025 right what else we
00:26:25.360 got ai yes we should talk about ai um what's the point i want to make the point i want to make here
00:26:30.560 is that in 2024 there was enormous infrastructure spend into ai and very little to show for it so
00:26:38.800 the infrastructure spend was happening the capabilities were being built but what you didn't
00:26:43.840 see is um companies spend x many billion and get their multiple applied to that you know your business
00:26:51.440 is its capital um and it should generate a multiple of that capital going forward and that
00:26:57.760 capital was being spent but it wasn't generating a multiple so you weren't seeing the evidence of
00:27:02.960 ai i think now because it that has been built up you will start to see that applied what does that
00:27:10.080 mean well i think we're going to get into a very interesting dichotomy here because the biggest
00:27:17.040 companies in the world you know the the mag seven as they they call them you know the seven biggest
00:27:21.600 companies they are able to be at the cutting edge of this stuff so i think your sort of googles and
00:27:28.400 amazons and you know apples and so on are going to be able to take full advantage of it and stay at
00:27:34.560 the cutting edge and have products and continue to lead then you've got most of the middle which
00:27:41.040 has a traditional cost structure is not at the cutting edge and they will be able to be replaced by
00:27:48.000 new startups that can do what they do only with significantly less people and capital spend so
00:27:54.560 as much as the fact that the world's largest companies on many metric look overvalued and there's
00:28:01.360 too much capital allocated to them i don't see what stops that trend for now and possibly in at
00:28:08.480 all in 2025 so i wouldn't be surprised if that continues and i wouldn't be surprised if a lot of those
00:28:14.320 middle-sized companies ended end up being disrupted i mean especially companies like um you know the
00:28:21.920 consultancy companies the accentures and p you know uh pete's whatever it is uh pkw whatever they
00:28:27.680 call themselves now um you know that those are um those consultancy businesses you can basically
00:28:35.120 instead of hiring you know one senior project manager and a bunch of overpaid 25 year olds to come in
00:28:41.280 and tell you how to run your business you can basically just get an ai to do it for you um
00:28:45.280 that that that's going to be um hugely disruptive um the other big change that you're going to see
00:28:50.160 in ai is that so far it's basically been a bit of a toy you know you just ask it a question it pops
00:28:56.160 something out very quickly um but that that's a bit bonkers really when you think about it because
00:29:00.720 i mean if i asked you um you know do you prefer jam or marmalade you you don't really need to you
00:29:07.840 you don't need to think that long you just give me an answer if i asked you to diagnose the um
00:29:15.520 sociological trends that have been driving rest and decline you're probably going to need to think
00:29:21.200 about it for a bit before you give me your answer these two things are not equal however the way that
00:29:26.320 ai has been working at the moment is that no matter how easy or difficult the question is it thinks for
00:29:33.280 about the same amount of time and then spits out an answer what we're starting to see now is the
00:29:37.120 emergence of models that will have some deep thinking time and will produce significantly
00:29:43.920 better answers as a result this will be particularly the case when they load these ais into proprietary
00:29:50.160 systems within businesses because um you know then they can say okay well you know do multiple cycles
00:29:57.760 take 10 20 minutes a couple of hours um or even possibly you can say look this is the biggest
00:30:03.520 problem facing my company um here is all of the data related to it you know here's a hundred million
00:30:11.600 dollars worth of servers gpus and cpus dedicated to the task think about it for two months
00:30:17.920 and then give me your answer um you know it's starting to sound a bit like the um the super
00:30:22.400 computer in hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy now i think about it but you get you get the idea
00:30:26.400 you're going to see the emergence of ai which is less gimmicky and actually much more focused on
00:30:32.640 delivering genuine results there is actually a um a version of this i think it's google gemini
00:30:41.360 research product or something like that where it's starting to do this um rather than give you a
00:30:46.880 very quick answer what it will do is you ask an answer it will break that you ask it a question
00:30:52.640 you'll break down that question into the sub-components necessary to arrive at it and
00:30:58.160 then because it's backed by google and google are quite good at this with their their searches it will
00:31:03.280 go off and search however many websites it needs to search in each thing and it will search hundreds
00:31:08.800 of websites potentially pull live data and it will come up with a well thought through basically report
00:31:16.480 and the kind of stuff that it can give you is kind of equivalent to what you might pay one of these
00:31:22.160 consulting companies to do only they would charge you 80 grand and spend two months on it and this
00:31:29.840 thing will do it in 10 minutes so as you start to get more of that you know huge disruption for the
00:31:35.680 professional industries huge impact for businesses that are able to leverage it properly um while i'm on
00:31:43.040 this vein it's probably also worth talking about you know what are we actually going to see from ai are
00:31:47.920 are we going to see a winner takes all as as had been assumed or are we going to see you know point
00:31:53.440 cases for this so you know google because they're they're so good at search can give you real world
00:32:01.600 thought through reports like this um you know open ai uh we've hopefully they well hopefully from their
00:32:11.520 point of view they maintain their innovation edge and continue to lead if they don't they might have
00:32:18.320 a problem but you know what is going to be the differentiating edge for open ai
00:32:23.600 grok um elon musk's one is going to be differentiated on the basis that it doesn't
00:32:29.280 have uh anywhere near as much woke assumptions built into it so should be more honest
00:32:36.240 you'll just be interesting to see how how that starts to differentiate out because at the moment
00:32:39.760 it's kind of a random pick which one you use when you've got a question
00:32:42.880 but they might start we might just start to see maturity of this industry which could be very
00:32:48.000 interesting um ai infrastructure is continuing to build out i think it was one of elon musk's
00:32:55.760 company where he basically was elon musk was it somebody else well basically they they they strung
00:33:01.200 together a hundred thousand gpus a hundred thousand gpus into an ai cluster something that had previously
00:33:08.320 been thought impossible because the error rate starts to shoot up as you chain these things together
00:33:12.000 but they they solved that they put them all together um you know again what what could that unlock
00:33:16.880 when you apply it to genuinely difficult problems these companies could be having so so that is going
00:33:21.760 to be uh significant uh let's look at the losing side of this equation the losing side of this equation
00:33:27.280 is going to be um legacy businesses if you would like to see the full version of this premium video
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