00:00:58.600and it's an anomaly that for some reason i can't seem to get the mainstream newspapers
00:01:02.760um interested in um and it's with regard to our former deputy prime minister and perhaps future
00:01:09.300chancellor of the exchequer angela rayner well also possibly future prime minister i mean she
00:01:15.260is the favorite amongst the back benches at the moment is that right well yes she's she said some
00:01:20.480interesting things about her childhood she by all according to her she had an extremely dysfunctional
00:01:26.480and difficult childhood. In an interview, she said, we weren't wanted. I didn't feel I'd ever
00:01:31.600been loved. She said that her mother was diagnosed with bipolar disorder. Her mother tried to commit
00:01:37.960suicide when Angela was 13 by slashing her wrists. And Angela was her legal carer. And in an article
00:01:45.740in iNews in 2016, entitled Labour MP Angela Rayner's inspirational mother, she said that her
00:01:53.200mother was one of 12 children um which is a lot of children well i know all of that i mean i would
00:02:01.020agree but that sounds like a horrific upbringing well yeah it doesn't sound very nice but it i
00:02:07.020wonder well if it's quite as unnice as is this an anomaly she says her mother is one of 12 children
00:02:14.540in an interview in high news in 2016 an interview in spectator uh australia in 2021 called i'll eat
00:02:22.200you alive she said that two of her siblings her mother's siblings were given away to christian
00:02:28.560neighbors and never seen again um and that her mother left school at 12 couldn't read and would
00:02:36.280just follow the fairground so that's what she said her mother was one of 12 children and two of those
00:02:43.820children indeed because they were so hot up were given away to christian neighbors and never seen
00:02:49.420again that's what she said well hang on a minute um if if if if two of her mother's siblings were
00:02:57.840given away to neighbors how bloody big are these houses are these like landed estates because
00:03:03.500presumably you'd see them every time you walked out your front door and they were coming home or
00:03:07.360something this is this is odd but then she said other things that are odd as well which no one's
00:03:11.600questioned such as that the mother used to feed them dog food because she couldn't read and thought
00:03:16.200it was braising steak now i would but hang on surely then you go on the pictures and the pitch
00:03:22.100has a right right right so that's a bit odd isn't it did she think that she was eating dog
00:03:26.020i don't know right but no one no one questioned this or that the interviewer didn't question this
00:03:32.980um or that she said things like she had to go to her grandmother's once a week for a bath
00:03:37.960implicitly because they couldn't have afford to have a bath that where she did with her mum
00:03:42.740but then she said oh i used to bathe my mother all the time she used to have to bathe her mother
00:03:47.180because her mother was so depressed and couldn't do it for herself it's very odd some of the things
00:03:51.180she says and nobody questions it perhaps because she's a woman or perhaps because they don't want
00:03:55.920to seem like a snob i don't know but the weirdest thing was saying that she was one of 12 the mother
00:04:02.280was one of 12 her mother was one of 12 siblings and i thought well that's testable but is that true
00:04:08.780And I got quite into genealogy and I've traced my family tree and my family trees and various other people's family trees, things like this.
00:04:16.620And so I know how to I know where the records are and how you can check these things.
00:04:19.700And so I looked into it. And what I found was that her mother, Lynn Dean, was born in Stockport in 1960.
00:04:28.260The mother had an illegitimate child, Darren Dean, in 1975.
00:04:32.920in 1977 she married Martin Bowen that's Angela's father in Stockport but for some reason on the
00:04:42.200marriage certificate she puts her name down as Ingram now her mother hasn't married in Ingram
00:04:48.840she's not Ingram but apropos of nothing she puts her surname on her marriage certificate
00:04:54.840is ingram this is weird now she has angela in 1980 in chester and ellsmore port and she has
00:05:04.660a brother michael joseph in 1983 in chester and ellsmore port this lynn dean i tracked down her
00:05:12.080mother her mother is evelyn dean born stockport 1941 marries a brian uh even in delves sorry
00:05:20.0801941 marries a brian dean 1959 stockport has lynn 1960 and a brother andrew 1968
00:05:29.020and that's it so i can't find any evidence of what angela said that her mother had
00:05:37.380well that's not 12 11 siblings her mother had one sibling and that is this person called andrew
00:05:45.320born in 1968. Now, what might be going on? And remember that this woman, this Lin, got married
00:05:53.980at 17. So she's out of the house by 17. Did her mother remarry? Well, I find an Evelyn Dean
00:06:02.040who remarries in Halifax in 1971. So that's nowhere near. That's nowhere near Cheshire.
00:06:09.580um and but this is the one born in Bradford in 1954 I can't find any evidence of illegitimate
00:06:17.180children she might have had because if she'd had illegitimate children after 1968 they would have
00:06:22.200been under the name Dean or if she reverted to her maiden name Delves and which you didn't do in
00:06:28.660those days anyway they're not so then I tracked down did the father for some reason that makes
00:06:35.860no sense come with a whole brood of children from a previous marriage well i looked into the uh into
00:06:42.700the into the brian deans you have in stockport one born and died in 1939 one who marries a janet
00:06:50.180brindley in 1970 but he's i've tracked them down he was still alive in 2008 um and so he's clearly
00:07:00.060the one that was born in 1947 and then you have another one born in 1932 and dies in 1988 and that
00:07:07.820seems to be uh Angela's grandmother this Brian grandfather this um this Brian Dean and it says
00:07:15.000on his death certificate that he was born in 1932 which makes sense then because he gets married in
00:07:20.8801959. So I don't know what's going on. Is it that she has 10 siblings whose births weren't registered?
00:07:31.420Is it that she has 10 siblings that were born abroad, which seems unlikely considering the
00:07:38.680poverty they were supposedly brought up in? Is it that Brian came with a series of illegitimate
00:07:44.900children that were all registered under his mother's under his um uh under the mother's
00:07:50.460surname um and if that's the case then like he'd have to have started at about the age of 16 for
00:07:57.780there to be enough by the time he got married so none of these things make any sense it's a bizarre
00:08:04.860anomaly that i can't make head nor tail off and i thought of part oh well maybe there's a kind of
00:08:09.480weird blended nature to her family but if you look into the records that's that doesn't that
00:08:14.680doesn't fit so something's off well a simple explanation would be that she's lying
00:08:22.460yes that would i couldn't possibly comment but that but or that she was told this in good faith
00:08:35.420by her mother and the mother during one of those barbs perhaps um and and she never thought to
00:08:43.240question it but whatever is the case the so the the i don't want to accuse people of lie we have
00:08:49.200certain libel laws in this country but um the it doesn't it's it's an anomaly that doesn't make
00:08:55.220sense and i can't come up with a way of making it make sense because if they were illegitimate
00:08:59.280children then i would find them in the records under the surname dean a mother's maiden mother's
00:09:05.080maiden name delves um and i don't um if there were children and that were registered and they
00:09:11.520were illegitimate but they were registered under the father's name i would find mother's maiden
00:09:15.380name dean but i can't find any evidence of the other than that the mother was one of two so
00:09:22.820it's very very strange that's all i wanted to say yeah i mean in a prior era you kind of expect
00:09:31.760journalists to perhaps ask a follow-on question to some of this stuff but we kind of entered an
00:09:36.620era where the politics where the journalists basically just either reading out corporate
00:09:40.700press releases or accepting politicians entirely at their word so yes i mean i mean we get this a
00:09:50.880lot from labour politicians don't we we get the sort of rachel reeves who just makes up whole
00:09:54.620sections of her cv uh and then it is exposed sometime later but it sounds like you might
00:09:59.820of exposed that that was it uh angela rayner's origin story is um questionable oh but it's and
00:10:09.960it's not it's there's other things i would i would have thought this thing about eating dog food is
00:10:13.920just so obviously unlikely it's so obviously improbable that anybody even if they could read
00:10:20.820would think that dog food uh in the dog food section of a shop um was was anything other than
00:10:28.300dog food and so it it's it's it's most it's most unlikely and this idea yes and and also as somebody
00:10:37.040who has small children even if you give them um even if they like fish fingers and you give them
00:10:44.560fish fingers um of a different type you give them hate fish fingers as opposed to codfish fingers
00:10:50.880which is the ones they like they kick up an enormous stink and and yet she tells it in a way
00:10:56.220that on multiple occasions she was fed dog food
00:10:59.520and we're expected to believe that young children