PREVIEW： Brokenomics ｜ Moon Man with Bart Sibrel
Summary
In this episode of Brokonomics, I discuss whether or not the United States actually went to the moon in the late 70s and early 80s. I speak with Dan Schwartzabrell, host of the website "Bartzabrell on the Moon" and filmmaker, to name a few.
Transcript
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Welcome to Brokonomics. I'm filming this one from home and as you know every time I do that I boom
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with the tech and hopefully I haven't done that too badly this time but what I did want to get
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into was the whole moon landing stuff because I do find it a really interesting question. Now as
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I've explained many times I don't know what to think on this one because I'm not a technical
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person. I'm not an aerospace engineer or anything so I don't know and there are loads of technical
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arguments out there that you can go and find stuff about the you know the Van Allen radiation belt
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this that and the other thing but but I mean what do I know about the Van Allen radiation belt what
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do any of you know about that but what I do understand is people and what I wanted to address
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was the questions about the people involved and the decisions that was made and the narrative that was
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put out and the chain of events and just see okay can we put together a coherent narrative that
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applies for all of this. My actual position is that I don't know and I'm perfectly comfortable
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not understanding or not knowing one way or the other for sure but as an investor my basis is
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always that I need to be got over the line on something so I won't make an investment in
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something until I've crossed a certain line that this is a good investment and I won't short it as
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well until I've got over the line that this is something that is that clearly needs to be shorted so
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I'm perfectly happy being in that comfortable position and to my mind at this time neither side
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of this debate either that we definitely did go or we definitely didn't go neither of those camps have
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got me over the line so I just think it's an interesting discussion to have I know some of my
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viewers hate me talking about this and say that I shouldn't do it but but it's but it's always
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fascinating when there's an interesting question that people don't want you to talk about those are
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always the things that I'm most attracted to so um I thought well who do I know that can make the
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case um that perhaps there was something a little bit fishy going on and I reached out to a man of
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recent Joe Rogan internet fame um host of a website bartzabrell.com bartzabrell thank you so much for coming
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on sure it's actually sabrell.com although bartzabrell.com gets you there just my last name
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sabrell s as in sam i b as in boy r-e-l.com you know listening to you dan of your very generous
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introduction um one of the things that comes to mind is a quote from shakespeare and he said
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thou does protest too much and I'm a filmmaker and there's a quote from a film um and they said
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the likelihood of one individual being right increases in direct proportion to the intensity
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to which others are trying to prove him wrong and we should know for certain whether we went to the
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moon or not and the fact that there's all this very reasonable doubt that to me that itself is an
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indication that they didn't go and so is all of this defense if they really went to the moon
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then why would they care if somebody said they didn't go that would be like me going around
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saying mickey mouse was the first president of the united states not george washington do you really
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think there'd be a thousand youtube videos to reassure people that george washington was the president
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first and not mickey mouse and so the fact that it has to be supported so much so repeatedly
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is proof that it's made out of straw out of me and let me add I used to not only believe the
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moon landings are real I virtually worshiped them I had a shrine of apollo 11 pictures that followed me
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wherever I went house to house we just have to keep an open mind and realize that being suspicious of
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the united states federal government is reasonable because the former defense secretary during the vietnam
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war said look the pentagon people you need to know this that the public is 90 against entering the war
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on december 6 1941 90 of americans were against entering world war ii the following day after pearl harbor
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90 wanted to get even so defect secretary robert mcnamur before he died got something off his chest he said
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by the way uh i went to the pentagon and the cia and we had a meeting and they said we need some sort of
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pearl harbor type of event to get the public behind the vietnam war so they created out of thin air
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the gulf of tonkin incident which was allegedly a north vietnamese ship attacking uh american ship
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he said before he died he and the cia made it up a complete fabrication never happened now the
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congress and the senate who allegedly represent us passed a law starting the war called the gulf of
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tonkin resolution based on something that never happened that was a cia lie so the cia is more
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powerful than our elected representatives then we have bobby kennedy jr you're like you said my opinion
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is the expert's opinion that you know and so if i have bobby kennedy jr who has more access to the jfk
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files than oliver stone does say with 100 certainty that his decades-long researched opinion is that the cia
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murdered his uncle president john kennedy because he was going to shut down the cia then yes trust his
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opinion so what we have here is a government that admittedly even wikipedia says the gulf of tonkin
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they've just come out admitted at this point we've got declassified documents there's no question that's
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true yeah and and actually i'll just i'll just i'll just add on the jfk thing that's another one as well
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so i mean again i don't know for sure on that one but that one i'm like 90 certain that um
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if if if it wasn't a direct cia uh cia op they facilitated in ways or didn't get out they got out
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of people's way or whatever it was but there was definitely some sort of involvement on that one
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um yeah well yeah and as you know documents have been declassified and this is probably why
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kennedy wanted to shut down the cia uh they had documents that the you know cia the pentagon they
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suggested in order to get support for attacking cuba that they stage attacks on americans and kill
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americans and blame it on cuba the yes yes with cuba kennedy yeah and what's the name of that one you
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know the name of that one what's the name of that one called yes i've forgotten it too it's not
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mockingbird or i forget paper it might be i forgot the name yes the joint the joint chiefs
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the joint chiefs of staff went to the president and said that we should we should launch terrorist
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attacks and then blame it on cuba and i think it was jfk who said no i'm not i'm not doing that
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but that again is on record yeah well he should have done more than that i guess that's what shutting
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down the cia was supposed to be he should have arrested those people for attempted murder planning
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to kill innocent people is a crime it's called attempted murder he should have had anybody who
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voted for that raising their hand thrown in jail and apparently most of those people were the cia so
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the cia is willing to kill americans they killed their own president they're willing to start a war
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that led to the unnecessary deaths of 58,220 of their own people so i don't think they're going to
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have a problem faking a video image yes that they claim is on the moon and that's what we have to
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understand and the psychological part of this is that you know whoever killed jfk he's still dead it's
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still a tragedy it's just a matter of changing the hat on who did it and why or 9-11 we don't have to go
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there but let's say maybe something else there are certainly questions over that one still a tragedy
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yeah it's just changing who did it and why the moon landing fraud is different it's a positive lie
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it gave people pride and it's if you you know are an intellectual and maybe worship science more than
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you should then it's like the messiah of science it's the god of science well but i want it to be i very
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much want it to be true if it is true it is basically the crowning achievement of the anglo
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people um it it shows what a remarkable thing that our nations can do so i desperately want it to be
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true but as you've sort of so expertly laid out there and i think tim paul captured this best at this
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point the federal government has negative credibility whenever they say something if they're saying it
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you should you should automatically doubt it and and that was got what got me first looking at it
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is that um as much as i want it to be true and i do want it to be true um that organization has been
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involved in so many things it's not unthinkable that you should start asking questions about a positive
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yeah here's a quote from carl sagan around the time of apollo it's my belief he knew of the
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fraud but didn't say so publicly for academic reasons and political reasons so he said this
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quote around that time one of the saddest lessons of history is this if we've been bamboozled long enough
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we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle we're no longer interested in finding out the truth
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then bamboozle has captured us it's simply too painful to acknowledge even to ourselves that we've
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been taken once you give a charlatan power over you you almost never give it back and then i'll follow
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up the kind of on the same line by mark twain who says it's easier to fool people than to convince them
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they have been fooled and what carl sagan is talking about is academic people and his peers
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that will not admit when they're wrong i've talked to a college professor teaching aerospace and one
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of the most prestigious universities in america i showed him all this incontrovertible proof which
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you can see for free at sabrell.com why sadly they really did fake the moon landing and he said
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there's nothing i could show him that would make him recant the glorious moon landings and then i
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said well what if you saw buzz aldrin on national tv tearfully confessing that he did fake the moon
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landing and begging the public's forgiveness the college professor said that he would still think
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