The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - April 18, 2026


PREVIEW： Chronicles #43 ｜ Argonautica with Stelios Panagiotou： Part II


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Jason and the Argonauts are on a suicide mission to retrieve the Golden Fleece, and Heracles is nowhere to be found. Will they be able to complete the task without Heracles? Or will they be crushed by divine will?

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00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome back to Chronicles where I'm joined once again by Stelios and we're going to
00:00:18.560 be continuing our discussion of the voyage, the grand adventure of Jason and his Argonauts. There
00:00:27.200 There is simply so much to say that we won't spend too much time just reviewing what's
00:00:33.460 happened so far.
00:00:35.180 But just to say that Jason has been sent out on this grand voyage by his half-uncle, really,
00:00:45.320 Pelias, who is king of Eolkos and who sees the throne against Jason's father, Aeson.
00:00:54.100 And Peleus has sent Jason out to go and retrieve the Golden Fleece at the far edges of the
00:01:01.860 known world in Colchis, which is on the eastern edge of the Black Sea.
00:01:07.200 And this is supposed to be an impossible task.
00:01:10.340 It's supposed to be something that Jason is not going to survive and come back from.
00:01:15.740 A suicide mission.
00:01:16.740 An absolute suicide mission.
00:01:18.860 However, because the idea of going to retrieve the Golden Fleece was such a tantalizing prospect for glory and renown and heroic deeds,
00:01:30.340 of course, it brought with it, when news spread that this was going to be undertaken, some of the greatest heroes from across Hellas at this time.
00:01:39.760 We've got Polydeiches, we've got Peleus, father of Achilles, we've got Telamun, father of Ajax, we've got Idus, we've got so many, so many characters.
00:01:52.540 And so far, they have weathered a lot of their problems, because they have had with them the mightiest hero of all, Heracles.
00:02:01.720 And just at the end of book one, as we were recounting at the end of the last part, the crew very absentmindedly leave Heracles behind on the shore when they're going up the Pontos.
00:02:16.780 Which is preposterous. How can you forget Heracles?
00:02:19.180 Yeah, the guy who's like seven foot tall and bulking. You're like, oh, I just didn't notice he hadn't boarded the ship.
00:02:25.660 But it is explained to Jason and the other Argonauts, before Jason has a mutiny on his hand, as the Argonauts force him to go back for Heracles, that actually this is all part of divine will.
00:02:38.760 Yes.
00:02:39.040 That this was never, it was never Heracles' fate to continue with the Argonauts to Colchis.
00:02:46.680 He already has his own destiny, which is to fulfill and complete his 12 labors.
00:02:53.160 He just needed a sea taxi.
00:02:54.820 Yes.
00:02:55.300 he helped along the way yes he wasn't just a passive passenger right and so and one thing to
00:03:00.740 mention there is that um that this was in in a sense divine intervention yes and um the sea god
00:03:08.420 thavmas i think uh glaucus glaucus from narius i think yes he appeared to them and said uh don't
00:03:16.740 worry it's not his fate he has his labors to continue and you you need to get on with your
00:03:25.500 journey right it's divine will yes it's not something that wasn't supposed to be and that
00:03:32.340 calms the men down again and they press on although i will say that um and i suppose now is the most
00:03:39.300 appropriate moment to just say uh this particular thing which is that throughout the rest of the
00:03:44.300 story, though Heracles is absent from the tale, there are constantly, there is constant reminders
00:03:50.780 from Apollonius that the men did, even if it was divine will, the men kind of did leave their ace
00:03:59.020 behind, right? The most powerful man, the most, you know, incredible weapon that they had in
00:04:06.840 their arsenal is no longer with them. The hero, they wanted to lead them. Yes. But he said, no,
00:04:12.780 it's Jason's quest. He has the prime say. Yeah. And so now they really are stuck with Jason as
00:04:20.420 leader. Having said that, Jason is going to come into his own more and more, as we'll see when the
00:04:27.200 journey goes on. So let's continue it. Can I say something here? Because that's more symbolic than
00:04:33.880 people realize. Because Jason is a very distinct type of leader. And Heracles is a different type
00:04:42.240 of hero as well as leader. So they wanted him to lead, but he understood that his kind of leadership
00:04:49.700 wasn't the pertinent one for that quest. And this can mark the transition between
00:05:00.840 the agonistic spirit and the spirit of Odysseus, or in other words, it's the same transition from
00:05:08.320 the spirit of Achilles to the spirit of Odysseus in the Iliad and the Odyssey. And people, especially
00:05:15.320 when Apollonius was writing, lived in a different time than they understood their past to be.
00:05:23.220 So essentially, he said, we can't live in the age of heroes anymore, in the atomized sense,
00:05:32.280 nothing to do with modern conservatism.
00:05:35.920 I mean, it isn't just one hero meets the other hero
00:05:39.920 and they have a clean fight, a fair fight.
00:05:42.800 And the strongest is the most moral
00:05:45.720 because he punctures the hardest.
00:05:47.120 It's not Achilles versus Hector anymore.
00:05:49.020 It's not Mike's right.
00:05:50.620 Yeah, it's not Achilles versus Hector anymore.
00:05:52.840 Now we're at a time where civilization
00:05:56.340 has been a bit more complex
00:05:58.280 and more complex solutions have been adopted.
00:06:02.280 And people do echo this in their thinking.
00:06:06.040 Yes. And we're actually about to see an example of that play out now, because at the start of book two, we're immediately launched into the Argonauts stumbling upon a place called Bithynia.
00:06:19.680 and there just so happens to be a particularly terrible king called Amicus, who is the king of 0.96
00:06:27.280 the Babrekians, which are something of a savage tribe. They're just very aggressive, right? They 0.97
00:06:35.920 have a very aggressive foreign policy against the surrounding neighbours. And I wanted to read the
00:06:42.980 first part from this, because it really pays to listen to how Apollonius himself frames and presents
00:06:51.420 Amicus to us. So he says, there were the cattle stalls and pens of Amicus, proud king of the
00:06:59.600 Barbrechians, whom a nymph, Bithynian Mylae, had borne to Poseidon Genothlius, with whom she had
00:07:06.880 lane. He was the most outrageous of men, and even upon strangers he had imposed a shameless 0.98
00:07:13.560 ordinance. No one might depart before trying his luck against the king in boxing, and many men
00:07:20.860 from neighbouring territories had thus met their end. On this occasion, too, when he came down to
00:07:27.700 the ship, he arrogantly scorned to inquire of their mission and their identity, but at once
00:07:34.440 address him as follows. Listen, you sea wanderers, to things which it is proper for you to know.
00:07:42.200 It is a law that no stranger who has come to the land of the Bibrekians may depart until he has 0.99
00:07:48.560 lifted up his hands in combat against mine. Therefore choose the best man from among you all,
00:07:55.360 and set him to box against me here and now. If you choose to ignore and trample upon my laws,
00:08:02.220 you will find that the consequences will be grim and violent. So he spoke in his haughtiness.
00:08:10.480 Wild anger seized the Argonauts when they heard, and the threat struck Polydeiches most of all. 0.94
00:08:17.520 At once he stood as his comrade's champion and replied,
00:08:21.500 Enough. Do not practice your wretched brutishness upon us, whomever you claim to be. We shall fall 0.91
00:08:28.260 in with your laws as you have stated them i myself now willingly undertake to fight you
00:08:34.040 and so i i like immediately the fact that again it's not just jason and the argonauts so jason
00:08:41.620 does everything and the argonauts just kind of like you know sit around as his hype men like
00:08:47.800 it's a it's a truly collaborative effort everyone every argo gets argonaut gets a moment to shine
00:08:54.600 They get their heroic deeds, something that propels them that bit further along the steppe than they would have gone otherwise.
00:09:02.100 Yeah, it's essentially the sea of the state of that age.
00:09:06.600 Plato uses this analogy, I think, in the Republic.
00:09:09.740 He mentions the sea of the state, the ship of the state.
00:09:13.500 Yes.
00:09:14.120 And I think when it comes to this, it reminds me of the agonistic spirit.
00:09:20.600 And it's the spirit of fair competition.
00:09:23.580 one for instance that you see in the olympian game in the olympic games right there's the spirit
00:09:28.380 of you know clean and fair competition where you know steroids aren't good and and amicus isn't
00:09:35.940 staying out of harm's way in a sense he doesn't say i'm i'm ruling because i'm i'm uh sort of i
00:09:43.960 have to it's like he he thinks he has to earn it and he constantly puts that status to the test
00:09:50.960 that's why he's fighting there
00:09:52.820 and
00:09:53.820 it's an interesting thing to remember
00:09:57.160 because there's another shift
00:09:59.120 that happened there
00:10:00.820 or it's an implication
00:10:02.960 of the shift I mentioned before
00:10:04.560 from the spirit of Achilles to the spirit of Odysseus
00:10:07.500 it's that
00:10:08.840 now we may say
00:10:10.340 human beings always
00:10:13.060 lament about the past and they always 0.99
00:10:15.160 think that the past was better
00:10:17.020 it's just human concept
00:10:18.720 it happens in every age
00:10:20.880 It happens in every age. And my hunch is to believe that 99%, it's a personal subjective issue that people would love to be younger. They don't like growing up. So this has always been the case. And the narrative of perpetual decline and social disintegration has always been with us.
00:10:42.860 and what is funny is that we may look back to the ancient times and say yeah the the ancients
00:10:49.300 were great and we are the bad ones but even then they were looking back into the past and they
00:10:55.180 were saying no the golden age is behind us now we're now we're in the iron age yeah so it's
00:11:02.080 another way of saying well these old ones they had that agonistic spirit which is much more noble
00:11:08.200 than us and we are locked in a in a sad state where it's not that the best man always wins
00:11:15.680 it's much more of a collaborate effort and there is tremendous collateral damage yes along the way
00:11:21.480 because if you look at that kind of warfare it's not like in the the movie troy the beginning right
00:11:28.020 you have two champions achilles slays the other guy yes and that army instantly goes with a with
00:11:36.120 greeks who were championed by achilles things went way more destructive later yeah absolutely
00:11:44.200 and and we see um here and it's sorry for me to add this it's that there is a kind of tragedy there
00:11:52.600 in that you can compete fairly without winning and and we see in amicus as well the fact that
00:12:01.160 It is egregious to the gods that this fight is even taking place
00:12:06.140 because actually it betrays hospitality, right?
00:12:10.500 It betrays the principle of Xenia.
00:12:13.240 And so Amicus is putting himself forward
00:12:16.800 and actually twisting the just order of the gods
00:12:20.620 in order to basically appease his own ego
00:12:23.400 so that everyone who comes along,
00:12:25.540 they know that he is the strongest and most renowned
00:12:28.180 and, you know, that he is basically just the top barbarian.
00:12:32.460 Yeah, there's another side to it, yeah.
00:12:34.180 Well, what's the other side to it?
00:12:35.400 No, no, the one you're mentioning,
00:12:36.620 because I painted the sort of good portrait of him,
00:12:39.560 but, yeah, you have a point also.
00:12:41.460 Yeah, so he is violating guest right,
00:12:44.540 but also, as well as that,
00:12:46.220 the actual imagery that Apollonius employs
00:12:49.480 is very, very black and white.
00:12:53.840 Amicus is portrayed as this kind of chthonic figure,
00:12:59.500 this unenlightened figure,
00:13:01.720 whereas Polydeiches, or Pollux, I think,
00:13:04.620 as the Romanized version of his name is,
00:13:07.560 he is described, one of the particular descriptions I love
00:13:10.440 is just how soft the first scratchings of his beard are
00:13:14.260 and everything, he's young,
00:13:15.960 he's not actually had anywhere near as much experience
00:13:19.800 as his opponent,
00:13:21.500 but Polydecius is fighting for the divine order.
00:13:26.220 The imagery that's used to describe him is very heavenly.
00:13:29.580 It's very lofty.
00:13:30.920 It's showing that he is fighting for a purer sense of justice.
00:13:36.420 And we also see this reflected as well in the actual fight when it breaks out.
00:13:42.800 It's funny as well because this particular translation of it
00:13:48.160 decides to use the word thongs to describe like the leather straps that are put around but the
00:13:54.320 idea of like two men just like hitting each other with women's underwear with just some thongs is
00:13:59.380 the first thing that went into my head when i wore it and unfortunately i couldn't shake it out
00:14:04.240 but uh there's this quite brutal boxing match right it's um it's described as a fact that they
00:14:09.380 are just going at one another and that eventually polo dieckes is trying to maneuver around him is
00:14:18.060 trying to work like he's analyzing his opponent he's analyzing amicus and his fight strategy
00:14:24.900 and then it mentions the fact that he employs that same strategy on turn with both its strengths
00:14:31.620 and its weaknesses and we see um polydeic he's adapting to the opponent in front of him until
00:14:39.340 they're both so exhausted yeah that they have to both go and have like a timeout you know get the
00:14:44.480 water over their heads and everything and um then when they they um metaphorically step back into
00:14:51.240 the ring um it's the last fight that amicus is ever going to fight because polydeges accidentally
00:14:58.460 strikes him um around there jake pulled him yeah and it kills him yeah and it just wiped me just
00:15:05.520 falls to his knees in immense pain and then just falls to the floor dead and um yeah a nasty way
00:15:13.360 to go round one for the Argonauts, I suppose. But this, again, represents the fact that they have
00:15:20.560 gone there. This is something that he's only dead because of his own laws. He's only dead
00:15:29.560 because of his own laws. And it isn't just the fact that they are his own laws. It's the fact
00:15:35.320 that they violate the divine laws
00:15:37.140 and there is hubris
00:15:41.140 that is the cardinal sin
00:15:43.080 in the Greek mindset of the time
00:15:45.600 the mythological frame
00:15:47.120 you mentioned the key word
00:15:48.720 Xenia
00:15:49.920 and it's hospitality
00:15:51.840 and even now we're a very hospitable nation
00:15:55.040 you know this
00:15:55.620 and I'm very proud about this
00:15:58.580 and in a way
00:16:01.180 we need to remember
00:16:02.900 that Zeus wants people
00:16:06.160 to be hospitable to strangers.
00:16:09.060 It's a two-sided street.
00:16:11.580 It's a two-sided thing.
00:16:13.620 It's not unilateral.
00:16:15.340 It's bilateral.
00:16:16.840 The host needs to be a good guest,
00:16:19.420 needs to be a good host,
00:16:20.660 and the guest needs to respect the host.
00:16:24.280 In the Odyssey, for instance,
00:16:25.660 we have both violations.
00:16:27.760 We have Polyphemus,
00:16:28.640 who violates hospitality
00:16:31.640 when it comes to Odysseus and his crew in his cavern, and we then have the suitors who are
00:16:39.800 violating hospitality, who are violating the opposite law. They disrespect, they abuse Odysseus,
00:16:47.800 Penelope's, and Telemachus' hospitality, and both get their comeuppance. And here the same thing
00:16:55.560 happens with Amicus. He F.A. then he F.O.'d.
00:17:00.920 Yes. And also as well, once we see, I mean, to speak of the fact as well that Amicus is really
00:17:08.200 foreshadowing an even more uncompromising figure later on in the story, in the case of King Eates,
00:17:17.000 who's over in Colchis, as the big bad of the story, for want of a better way to put it.
00:17:22.680 But as soon as Pollux accidentally manslaughters Amicus and he falls to the ground, all of Amicus's men immediately start wanting vengeance for the king and start fighting.
00:17:37.340 And Jason and a few of the other Argonauts immediately get their weapons out and obviously start coming to the defense of their own man as well.
00:17:45.440 And the difference in skill is described in such a way where Apollonius says it was like a wolf amongst the sheep, or it was like gas being put amongst the bees, because the Argonauts are just so much more impressive than the men around him.
00:18:05.020 And I think there's something symbolic in that as well, which is it speaks to the fact that the Babrekians are just unable to stand against the Argonauts because each of the Argonauts is a very accomplished warrior and in a way are their own hero. 0.99
00:18:23.600 whereas in the case of the Bibrecchians, these are just thralls, they're actually nobodies. 0.99
00:18:31.460 Because Amicus just consolidated all of the power, all of the glory, all of the ability to prove 1.00
00:18:38.080 himself in himself at every opportunity. And so everyone else is just quite green.
00:18:43.740 Yeah, he in a way disarmed them. One thing we have to ask here, and I'm not drawing any conclusion, 0.95
00:18:50.760 it's a question I'm posing myself now
00:18:53.060 because I can't answer it right now
00:18:54.520 is to what extent the Bibrickians had divine blood?
00:18:57.620 Because you'd say that the battle is a bit unfair
00:18:59.980 because many of the Argonauts have divine lineage.
00:19:05.460 So in a way, I don't know if that's that much of an achievement.
00:19:14.080 We don't know.
00:19:15.060 Maybe Amicus had divine blood or something.
00:19:18.680 Well, perhaps a lesson in that, then, is just not to go around fighting everyone who comes to your door, 1.00
00:19:27.760 because they just might happen to be a demigod. 0.92
00:19:30.020 Yeah, don't go ape.
00:19:31.100 Yeah.
00:19:31.640 Yeah.
00:19:32.900 So they also pillage. 1.00
00:19:36.100 Stop chimping out. 0.99
00:19:37.200 Yeah, they take a bunch of goats and, you know, things for sacrifices later. 1.00
00:19:42.640 I'm glad you qualified it. 1.00
00:19:44.220 Yeah, they loot and plunder the Berbreccian lands, and then they get back on the Argo, and oh, behave. 0.80
00:19:54.000 And then we get to a really remarkable and quite a large part of the story, which is they end up meeting Phineas. 0.51
00:20:04.740 And this is quite an extensive part, and it's obviously quite a famous part as well.
00:20:09.500 Now, Phineas is the son of Agonor, and Agonor, for those who don't know, was also the father of Cadmus as well.
00:20:19.640 And so when Europa was kidnapped by Zeus, many of Agonor's sons went out into the Mediterranean to go and look for Europa.
00:20:28.800 And of course, Cadmus founds the city of Thebes at the behest of Athena, and we saw about how all of that comes to ruin when we covered the Bacchae by Euripides, and we see what happens to the house of Cadmus.
00:20:42.140 But though this is taking place after those events, Phineas is still alive because he has been cursed by Zeus, because he is a prophet like Cassandra.
00:20:55.380 He is a seer and he's able to read the futures and the fortunes of others. 0.68
00:20:59.920 But Zeus has cursed him because Phineas was foolish and clumsy 0.96
00:21:08.440 and revealed the entirety of someone's destiny to them 0.98
00:21:13.780 and left no room for misinterpretation.
00:21:17.340 And so for revealing too much of the mind of Zeus,
00:21:20.940 Zeus cursed Phineas to be blind, to be aging, to age beyond his time
00:21:28.980 and to be perpetually old, which is why he's still alive.
00:21:33.280 But it's a case of like, yeah, he's alive far longer than he should be,
00:21:37.980 but he is suffering.
00:21:39.240 Like, it is horrible to witness this poor man.
00:21:42.600 It's absolutely horrible, and the punishment is really tough, harsh.
00:21:49.380 We are going to talk about this, but I want to mention something here.
00:21:55.680 It's very interesting because what happened with Phineas was that he got, in a sense, access to the divine mind.
00:22:05.580 And he revealed the entirety of the situation to some people.
00:22:11.860 And that was the crime.
00:22:13.100 He shouldn't have done so.
00:22:14.640 So he was granted the privilege and he sort of abused it because the gods wanted him to give only very selective, impartial and fragmentary information.
00:22:26.480 To nudge people in the right direction.
00:22:28.400 Exactly.
00:22:28.920 As has been happening to Jason.
00:22:30.600 Exactly.
00:22:31.120 Throughout the journey.
00:22:31.860 Exactly.
00:22:32.600 Because individuals are also tried.
00:22:35.720 There is a sort of contradiction in almost every story when it comes to gods and human agents before the concept of free will was developed.
00:22:50.000 Because you simultaneously think that gods are responsible for everything, but also the human beings are responsible for their actions.
00:22:58.320 And that's a huge tension, which is almost everywhere present in Greek mythology and other mythologies.
00:23:08.920 I don't know if other, but it's definitely there in Greek mythology.
00:23:12.420 And one of the interesting things also about the oracle is that when it comes to the delivery of oracle, of what the seer said, the verdict of the seer, it always had to be ambiguous.
00:23:31.800 That was the thing because people had to start interpreting it instead of taking it as a face value.
00:23:38.160 It wasn't just that's it, that's the word of the God and it's given
00:23:44.420 and you are just given the word of the God and you aren't going to think about it.
00:23:49.040 It was you had to think about it because part of it had to do with self-knowledge
00:23:55.460 and it's not a coincidence that one of the engravings on the Oracle of Delphi
00:24:02.300 was know thyself.
00:24:04.120 That's one of the commandments of Apollo to human beings, essentially.
00:24:08.700 And they have to do their own work.
00:24:11.180 They have to do their own homework.
00:24:13.580 It's not that it's going to be completely given to them.
00:24:16.780 Yeah.
00:24:17.080 And also as well, the fact that if, as Phinehas did,
00:24:22.660 he reveals the entirety of Zeus's plan for this particular person
00:24:29.420 or that particular person, that loosens the sort of dependency
00:24:36.720 that the mortals have on the gods, because you don't have to constantly
00:24:41.120 sacrifice to them and pray to them and devote yourselves to them
00:24:45.160 because you have already been told exactly what is fated to happen to you.
00:24:50.340 And so we see this constantly in the way that though there have been
00:24:54.620 numerous examples already in the story of where people like Nereus
00:24:59.080 and Glaucus have come to the aid of the Argonauts, for example. So they have witnessed divine
00:25:05.480 intervention in their own story. But that doesn't actually stop them throughout the entire tale,
00:25:12.440 giving sacrifices to Apollo, erecting shrines throughout the journey as they go on. They're
00:25:18.420 constantly putting themselves in deference, under deference to the gods. But obviously,
00:25:23.980 as I say, with Phineas, it's a case of revealing too much and therefore basically freeing humanity
00:25:33.440 from the oversight of the gods, which is, of course, not acceptable and is one of the other
00:25:40.680 reasons why Prometheus was punished for giving humanity more than the gods wanted them to have.
00:25:47.060 and so Zeus punishes him by this in not only making him perpetually old not only in making
00:25:55.860 him blind but also in making him starve as well and it's really brutal and Apollonius describes it
00:26:03.540 in such grim but vivid detail of the fact that you know like there is like nothing beneath the
00:26:10.800 skin but bone he is really really struggling and throughout all of this as well there are
00:26:16.340 there are local people who are constantly going to him for their fortunes and want to
00:26:21.040 have a reading for their future. But at the same time, they are offering Phineas food
00:26:28.920 as a thank you for getting a reading for their future. And this food is constantly taken from
00:26:36.140 him by the harpies, who are vicious creatures and are really just enjoying watching Finnair
00:26:47.100 suffer. And not only do, when he's going to take the food, do they swoop down and take it from his
00:26:53.240 hands, so he's constantly tempted by the food but can never eat it. When he does finally, with what
00:27:00.940 food that is left as well they leave this stench on it yeah that is so foul so repugnant that he
00:27:08.200 can't even contemplate eating it and so he's constantly punished first and foremost with
00:27:13.440 starvation however there is he's like a gooner with a safety search
00:27:18.640 yeah that's it because he is what what a parallel because he he has the desire
00:27:28.160 and he's just there every he wants to eat which is human yeah yeah and food is just around
00:27:35.680 it's all around him but you just can't access any of it yeah absolutely um however there is
00:27:42.500 a silver lining, because Phineas also knows from prophecy that is not his own, that Jason
00:27:51.840 and the Argonauts are going to come along to his island, and eventually this curse will
00:27:59.360 be lifted from him. There is a future that is not just more of this. And so even though
00:28:08.560 he's blind, as soon as Jason and the Argonauts arrive on the shoreline, Phineas is immediately
00:28:14.680 ready to meet them. He's looking forward to the first good meal in a while. And he goes through
00:28:22.860 this lengthy monologue about basically everything that we've recounted now, about what his curse is,
00:28:27.900 why he was cursed, and how he's constantly tortured by the harpies. And also as well,
00:28:35.940 that in this prophecy it was said that the sons of boreas would have a key part to play in this so
00:28:42.780 just as in the last island with the bubricians we'd had pollux and his moment to shine now we
00:28:49.540 get the boreans we get zetes and um callies callies as well and they are to chase after 0.91
00:28:58.560 chase the harpies away uh whilst phineas is able to to tuck into a toby calvary in those
00:29:04.760 Yeah, to indulge himself. And so the Argonauts set up this wonderful plan to basically lay a banquet ready for Phineas. And then when they use this as bait to draw the harpies down, the Boreads, who are, let's not forget, able to fly because they have wings in the side of their ankles.
00:29:25.620 And I think before I might have incorrectly said that they have wings out the sides of their head as well. 0.84
00:29:31.760 I've seen numerous portrayals of them and they're all a little different.
00:29:36.000 But they can fly. They fly now.
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