The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - January 31, 2025


PREVIEW: Epochs #196| Pompey and Caesar Part XXI


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19 minutes

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188.51671

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3,662

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155

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Summary

Julius Caesar was the first Roman dictator, and one of the most feared men in history. He was a man of many names, but perhaps none more so than Caesar himself. His name was Caesar, and he was known to many as Caesar the Great, but to others, he was Caesar the King. And when he was assassinated by his own men, it was widely believed that he was the only candidate for the post of King.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Flip back to Appian, who tells us this, quote, four days before he intended to depart for his
00:00:05.920 war in the east, that is, against the Parthians and the Getae, his enemies cut him down in the
00:00:11.480 senate house, or more accurately, the theatre of Pompey. They may have resented his success
00:00:16.760 and his now excessive power, or maybe, as some alleged, they longed for the republic of their
00:00:22.540 ancestors and were afraid, knowing him well, that he would conquer these nations as well,
00:00:27.220 and then indisputably become king. On reflection, I am of the opinion that the plot did indeed
00:00:33.380 originate over his additional title, although the difference it made was only of a word,
00:00:38.740 since in reality the dictator is exactly like a king. A pair of men in particular, both of whom
00:00:44.780 had belonged to the party of Pompey, took the initiative in forming the conspiracy. These were
00:00:50.260 Marcus Brutus, surnamed Capio, who was the son of that Brutus who had lost his life in the time of
00:00:55.900 Sulla, and had found refuge with Caesar after the defeat at Pharsalus, and Gaius Cassius, the one who
00:01:02.460 had surrendered his triremes to Caesar in the Hellespont. There was also Decimus Brutus
00:01:07.100 Albinus, one of Caesar's most intimate associates. All three had always acted in a manner that had
00:01:12.780 deserved the respect and trust they received from Caesar. He had placed matters of great importance in
00:01:17.960 their hands, and on his departure for the campaign in Africa, had given them military commands and put them
00:01:24.080 in charge of Gaul, Decimus of Transalpine, and Brutus of Cisalpine. At the present time, Brutus and Cassius
00:01:30.800 were both about to be creators in the city, but they were quarrelling with each other over the so-called
00:01:36.100 urban creatorship, which has greater prestige than the others, either because they were really competing
00:01:41.320 for the honour, or in order to mount a pretense that they did not habitually act in concert over
00:01:47.240 everything. When he made the decision between them, Caesar is supposed to have said to his companions
00:01:51.980 that Cassius had right on his side, but that he favoured Brutus. Such was the kindness and honour
00:01:57.900 he showed to the man in everything. It was even thought that Brutus was his son, because he was
00:02:03.140 Cato's sister, Sevilla's lover, when Brutus was born. For this reason, when victory was in his hands
00:02:08.980 at Pharsalus, he is said to have told his officers to make every effort to save Brutus. Brutus may have
00:02:14.960 been ungrateful. He may either not have known or been sceptical or ashamed of his mother's lapse.
00:02:20.740 He may have been excessively devoted to liberty and valued his country above all. Or perhaps,
00:02:26.160 being a descendant of that Brutus who had once expelled the kings, he was needled and shamed
00:02:30.740 to do just this deed by the people. For on the statues of the elder Brutus and on the judicial
00:02:36.200 tribunal of the present day, there appeared many anonymous graffiti like,
00:02:41.080 Brutus, have you been bragged? Brutus, are you a corpse? Or would you were with us now? Or your
00:02:47.440 descendants are not worthy of you? Or you're no descendant of his? Anyway, these and many other
00:02:53.360 remarks of the same sort inflamed the young man to the act as if it were in his blood. Rumours
00:02:58.680 about the kingship became still more insistent. There was a meeting of the senate due to take place
00:03:03.220 shortly, and Cassius took Brutus' arm and said, what are we going to do in the senate if Caesar's
00:03:08.980 clique proposed to make him king? Brutus replied that he would not be at the senate. When Cassius
00:03:14.340 persisted in asking, but what if they summon us as creators? What shall we do then, my good Brutus?
00:03:20.460 He replied, I shall defend my country to the death. Then Cassius embraced him and said, is there a man
00:03:26.440 among the nobility you would not win over with that sentiment? Or do you think it is the artisans
00:03:31.780 and shopkeepers who write up slogans at your tribunal who shame you, and not the Roman aristocracy
00:03:38.080 who ask the other creators for horse races and beast fights, but ask you for freedom as though
00:03:44.380 it is a deed that was in your blood? This was how they revealed to each other at that moment for the
00:03:49.540 first time these thoughts which they had in fact been long pondering. Each of them then sounded out
00:03:55.560 his own friends and any associates of Caesar himself, if they knew them to be conspicuously brave.
00:04:01.160 From their own acquaintances, they gathered two brothers, Caecilius and Buculaneus, and in addition
00:04:07.660 Rubrius Ruga, Quintus Ligarius, Marcus Spurius, Servius Galba, Sextus Naso, and Pontius Aquila,
00:04:15.780 these all from their own associates, and from Caesar's, the aforementioned Decimus, Gaius Casca,
00:04:21.460 Trebonius, Tilius Kimber, and Minucius Bacillus. Interesting actually, one of those names jumps out to me,
00:04:27.040 a nice little anecdote of Pontius Aquila. At one point soon after Caesar had returned from Spain,
00:04:33.840 i.e. after he had become the sole ruler in Rome, during one of his triumphs as Caesar passed by,
00:04:40.240 everyone would stand, but Aquila kept his seat, and Caesar is supposed to have noticed this and
00:04:46.560 shouted out above the throng of the crowd something like, what's wrong Aquila? Take back the republic from
00:04:52.840 me then, Aquila, and for a few days afterwards, when anyone came to him with official documents to
00:04:57.340 sign, Caesar was supposed to have said, obviously with his tongue in his cheek, you know, I shall do
00:05:01.920 this, but only if Aquila allows it, and if those anecdotes are true, it does, that does sort of speak
00:05:07.380 volumes about Caesar wanting to be, you know, truly undisputed, but they are only anecdotes, who knows
00:05:13.100 if they're really, really true. Appian goes on, when they, the conspirators, thought there were enough
00:05:18.160 of them, and judged it unnecessary to share their project further, they made a compact with each
00:05:23.200 other, without taking oaths, or making sacrifices. None of them backed out, or betrayed the plot, and
00:05:29.240 they looked for an occasion, and a place to carry it out. Time was pressing, because usually plots, if
00:05:34.880 they involve more than two or three, four people, will eventually get leaked, so once you go down that
00:05:41.360 path, you've got to act sooner rather than later. Time was pressing, because Caesar was in four days
00:05:46.440 of departing for his campaigns, and immediately acquiring a military guard. They had the Senate
00:05:51.920 House in mind as a suitable spot, because they believed that the senators, even if they had not
00:05:57.020 been forewarned, would eagerly associate themselves with the deed, as it is said to have happened in the
00:06:02.620 case of Romulus, when he began to behave more like a despot than a king. They also thought that the deed,
00:06:08.260 done like that earlier one in the Senate House, would appear to have been carried out, not as a piece of
00:06:13.360 treachery, but on behalf of the community, and since it was an act performed in common interest,
00:06:19.140 there would be no danger from Caesar's soldiers. Also, the credit would remain with them, for it
00:06:24.500 would be well known that they had initiated it. These were the considerations which made them fix
00:06:29.720 unanimously on the Senate House, but they were divided over how to proceed. Some thought that they
00:06:35.200 should also make away with Antony, Caesar's fellow consul, who was the most powerful of his associates,
00:06:40.900 and enjoyed the highest esteem among the soldiers. But Brutus said that if they killed only Caesar,
00:06:46.980 they would win glory as tyrannicides for removing a king. But if they killed his associates, they would
00:06:52.540 be thought to have acted out of personal enmity as partisans of Pompey. The conspirators found this
00:06:58.000 point particularly persuasive and waited for the impending meeting of the Senate." So discussions were
00:07:04.300 obviously had about whether there was a need, okay, we've got to do away, we've got to kill Caesar,
00:07:08.960 but is it just him? Or do we need to do away with people that would, you know, go on and fight a
00:07:14.120 vendetta on his behalf? Is killing Caesar, just Caesar, enough to put an end to his power base? Or will a
00:07:23.140 faction, a Caesarian faction, live on, fight on, even if the man himself is dead? Well, they decide that
00:07:29.840 they're only going to kill Caesar. And again, we all know, don't we, that that was a mistake. Probably the
00:07:36.480 prudent thing to have done was to do away with Mark Antony as well. But Brutus didn't want to do
00:07:42.200 that. Appian continues. The day before the meeting, Caesar went to dinner with Lepidus, his master of
00:07:47.500 horse. He brought Decimus Brutus Albinus to join in the drinking. And as they passed the cups around,
00:07:53.160 he put the question, what is the best sort of death for a human being? Various views were expressed,
00:07:58.760 but he himself thought a sudden death best of all. In this way, he forecast his own fate and the
00:08:04.640 subject of his conversation was what was to happen the next day. In the night, he lay in a heavy sleep
00:08:10.640 as a result of the drink. And his wife, Colpurnia, who had a dream in which she saw his body streaming
00:08:16.460 with blood, tried to stop him leaving the house. When he offered sacrifice, the signs repeatedly
00:08:21.700 proved ominous. He was actually on the point of sending Antony to dismiss the Senate. But Decimus,
00:08:27.180 who was there, persuaded him not to lay himself open to the charge of disrespect, but to go himself
00:08:32.840 and dismiss it. And he was carried in a litter to do so. There was a performance taking place
00:08:37.460 in Pompey's theatre, and the Senate was to meet in one of the rooms beside the theatre,
00:08:42.260 as was the usual custom when the shows were on. From early in the morning, Brutus and his associates
00:08:47.700 had been in the colonnades in front of the theatre, transacting business with any who needed them
00:08:53.480 in their capacity as creators. But when they heard about the results of Caesar's sacrifices
00:08:58.260 and the postponement of the meeting of the Senate, they were completely at a loss,
00:09:03.020 almost panicked and lost their bottle. At this point, someone grasped Casca by the hand and said,
00:09:10.000 you kept it from me, although I am your friend. But Brutus has told me, i.e. of this plot.
00:09:15.400 Casca was conscience-stricken and thrown into sudden confusion. But the man smiled at him and said,
00:09:20.820 wherever will you get the money to stand for the Adelship? Whereupon Casca recovered.
00:09:25.440 Brutus himself and Casca were deep in thought talking to each other when a senator, Popilius
00:09:31.400 Leens, drew them towards him and said that he joined with them in praying for success for what
00:09:37.100 they had in mind and encouraged them to make haste. They were disconcerted, but in their panic said
00:09:42.060 nothing. So the secret, the supposedly secret plot is basically out. Those are people that hadn't been
00:09:47.760 sort of formally asked to join it are somehow aware of it. Like I say, any conspiracy that's more than
00:09:53.500 really a tiny number of people is kind of doomed to leak. Appian goes on, when Caesar was already
00:10:01.120 being carried on his way, a member of his household who had learnt about the plot came running to reveal
00:10:06.760 such information as he had acquired. He went to Colpurnia and saying only that he needed Caesar on
00:10:12.740 urgent business, waited for him to return from the Senate because he did not possess full information
00:10:17.560 about the affair. Artemidorus, who had been Caesar's host on Nidus, ran into the Senate, but found him
00:10:24.520 killed moments before. Someone else gave him a note about the conspiracy as he was sacrificing outside
00:10:30.160 immediately before entering the hall where the Senate was meeting, and this was found in his hand after
00:10:35.180 his death. After he stepped out of the litter, Leens, the man who had shortly before prayed for success
00:10:41.160 with Cassius and his companions, went up to him and talked privately with him in an animated fashion.
00:10:46.780 At once, some of the conspirators were perturbed by the sight and duration of the exchange, and they
00:10:53.020 made signs to each other to commit suicide before being arrested. But as the conversation continued,
00:10:58.580 and they saw that Leens was behaving like someone who was not revealing information so much as
00:11:03.600 insistently requesting a favour, they breathed again, and when in addition they saw him embrace Caesar at
00:11:09.240 the end, they recovered their courage. It is the custom for the magistrates to take the omens before
00:11:14.140 entering the Senate, and again Caesar's first sacrificial victim was without a heart, or according
00:11:19.400 to others, without a head to the intestines. When the soothsayer said that this was a portent of death,
00:11:25.520 Caesar laughed and said that such the same had happened to him in Spain when he was fighting Pompey.
00:11:31.340 The soothsayer replied that on that occasion also he had been in extreme danger, but now the portent was
00:11:37.820 even more deadly. Caesar then told him to repeat the sacrifice, but even so none of the victims
00:11:43.780 yielded good omens. Ashamed about wasting the time of the Senate, and pressed by his enemies in their
00:11:49.480 guise of friends, he spurned the sacred ritual and made his entrance, for Caesar had to suffer
00:11:55.680 Caesar's fate." End quote. Let's cut back at this moment to Plutarch. He says, quote,
00:12:00.220 Now Antony, who is a true friend of Caesar's, and also a strong man physically, was detained outside
00:12:05.880 the Senate house by Brutus Albinus, who deliberately engaged him in a long conversation.
00:12:11.500 Caesar himself went in, and the Senate rose in his honour. Some of Brutus's party took their places
00:12:16.820 behind his chair, and others went to meet him, as though they wished to support the petition being
00:12:21.720 made by Tilius Kimber, on behalf of his brother, who was in exile. So, all joining in with him in his
00:12:28.000 entreaties, they accompanied Caesar to his chair. Caesar took his seat, and continued to reject their
00:12:33.440 requests, as they pressed him more and more urgently. He began to grow angry with them.
00:12:38.340 Tilius then took hold of his toga with both hands, and pulled it down from his neck. This was the
00:12:43.680 signal for the attack. The first blow was struck by Casca, who wounded Caesar in the neck with his
00:12:48.780 dagger. The wound was not mortal, and not even a deep one, coming as it did from a man who was no
00:12:54.580 doubt much disturbed in mind at the beginning of such a daring venture. Caesar, therefore, was able
00:13:00.120 to turn round, and grasp the knife, and hold on to it. At almost the same moment, the striker of the
00:13:05.380 blow, and he who had struck, cried out together, Caesar in Latin, Casca, you villain, what are you
00:13:11.320 doing? While Casca called to his brother in Greek, help brother, so it began. And those who were not in the
00:13:17.180 conspiracy, which was the majority of the senators present, by the way, including Cicerone, those who
00:13:22.940 were not in the conspiracy were horror-struck, and amazed at what was being done, and they were afraid
00:13:27.460 to run away, and afraid to come to Caesar's help. They were petrified, basically, stuck to the spot.
00:13:32.720 They were too afraid even to utter a word, but those who had come prepared for the murder all
00:13:38.020 bared their daggers, and hemmed Caesar in on every side. Whichever way he turned, he met the blows of
00:13:43.520 daggers, and saw the cold steel aimed at his face, and at his eyes. So he was driven this way and that,
00:13:50.200 and like a wild beast in the toils, had to suffer from the hands of each one of them. For it had been
00:13:55.300 agreed that they must all take part in this sacrifice, and all flesh themselves with his blood.
00:14:00.620 Because of this compact, even Brutus gave him one wound in the groin. Some say that Caesar fought
00:14:06.420 back against all the rest, darting this way and that to avoid the blows, and crying out for help.
00:14:11.180 But when he saw that Brutus had drawn his dagger, he covered his head with his toga and sank down
00:14:16.620 to the ground. Either by chance, or because he was pushed there by his murderers, he fell down
00:14:21.960 against the pedestal on which the statue of Pompey stood. And the pedestal was drenched with his blood,
00:14:27.320 so that one might have thought that Pompey himself was presiding over this act of vengeance against
00:14:32.400 his enemy, who lay there at his feet, struggling convulsively under so many wounds. He is said to have
00:14:38.500 received 23 wounds, and many of his assailants were wounded by each other, as they tried to plant all
00:14:44.840 those blows in one body." End quote. So, sounds like quite a melee. Certainly no other way to picture it
00:14:50.780 than just a vicious attack. For a few more details, let's let Appian tell his version of it. He says this,
00:14:57.060 The conspirators left Trebonius behind to detain Antony in conversation outside the doors,
00:15:03.520 and when Caesar had taken his ceremonial seat, they crowded round him like friends, their daggers
00:15:08.720 hidden. One of them, Tilius Kimber, approached him from the front and begged for his exiled brother's
00:15:14.860 return. Caesar would not agree at all and wished to defer a decision. Kimber then took hold of Caesar's
00:15:20.560 purple toga, as though he was still pleading with him, and ripped the garment away and pulled it from
00:15:25.820 his neck, shouting, What are you waiting for, friends? Casca, who was standing behind Caesar's
00:15:31.100 head, aimed the first blow at his throat, but missed and wounded him in the chest. Caesar wrenched his
00:15:36.960 toga out of Kimber's grasp, gripped Casca's hand, and as he sprang off the seat, welled round and pulled
00:15:43.060 Casca after him with enormous force. So Caesar fought back. There's life in the old dog yet. He didn't go
00:15:49.600 down easily. While he was in this position, one of the others drove a dagger into his side, stretching
00:15:55.400 as it was in the action of twisting. Cassius also struck him in the face, Brutus in the thigh,
00:16:00.960 and Bucilianus in the back, so that for a few moments Caesar kept turning from one to the other
00:16:06.200 of them, with various cries like a wild beast. But after Brutus's blow, whether or not giving up hope
00:16:11.960 now, he wound himself in his toga and fell neatly at the foot of Pompey's statue. Even then, after he had
00:16:18.520 fallen, they went on savaging him until he had 23 wounds, and in the scuffle, many of them struck each
00:16:24.640 other with their daggers." And there is, of course, that detail, which may be apocryphal, of Caesar
00:16:30.500 when he saw Brutus saying something along the lines of, you too, my son, even you, Brutus,
00:16:37.260 et tu, Brute. And Caesar must have known at a certain point that he had been done to death before he
00:16:42.180 actually died and lost consciousness. He knew that he was done for. So that is the sad and also fairly
00:16:48.440 ignominious death of Caesar, isn't it? This great man, once again, like Pompey in the end, just cut
00:16:54.760 down, just butchered by lesser men. And so a bit like Alexander, cut off before his time. Who knows
00:17:00.720 what he might have gone on to do had Caesar left Rome and gone on to fight a war in the east against
00:17:06.300 the Parthians? Might he have been as successful as Trajan or Alexander in the east? Had he beat
00:17:13.060 the Parthians, would he have gone all the way to the Indus Valley? Or who knows? But Caesar is cut
00:17:17.900 off prematurely, murdered, and his body just left there. Again, a parallel with Pompey. No one picked
00:17:24.280 up the body. It was just left there. There's the image of all the senators, both those that were in
00:17:29.120 on it and those that weren't, all running out, pouring out of the theatre of Pompey or the building
00:17:34.400 adjacent to it. And the body just left there. Kind of sad, really, even if you're not a fan of
00:17:40.360 Caesar. The sort of immediate fall from grace, going from the greatest, most important, most
00:17:46.680 powerful man in the world, or at least the Mediterranean world, to just a dead body. Nothing
00:17:52.140 more than a piece of meat on the ground. That's how quickly fortune can change. The vicissitudes of
00:17:57.340 fortune, as Edward Gibbon might say, how quickly lady fate can turn on you. And so although I shall be
00:18:04.040 ending my story there with the death of Caesar, I've got to end it somewhere. At some point in
00:18:09.680 the future, after we've left the ancient world or ancient Rome for a while and talked about some
00:18:15.340 other things on Epochs, at some point I will return to the story. And I should almost certainly pick it
00:18:22.920 up from that point. What happens next? The story of Antony and Octavian and Cassius and Brutus and
00:18:31.160 Lepidus and everything else. Because, of course, nothing stops. History hasn't stopped, although my
00:18:37.920 story has. Nothing is over. In fact, there is another round of civil wars that go on for, what, like 10
00:18:47.460 years? Another 10 years? And they're even more brutal and bloody than the ones that have come before.
00:18:53.680 So, although there is a lot more to this story to go, I'm going to end my particular narrative
00:19:00.000 there. And so I hope you've enjoyed it. I hope I've been able to do the story some justice.
00:19:09.120 As always, let me know in the comments your thoughts and feelings. It's always much appreciated.
00:19:13.320 So, until next time, take care.
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