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- February 07, 2025
PREVIEW: Epochs #197 | Edward III
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Hello and welcome to another episode of Epochs where I have finished my series all about the
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late Roman Republic and I shall be changing the topic entirely now. I'll be going back to my
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series all about the British monarchy, English monarchy. If you remember back in episode 147
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I'd got up to the age of Edward II so I shall be carrying on from there talking about all about
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Edward III. It's easy to remember if you ever try and commit all the monarchs to memory you've got
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three Edwards in a row. Longshanks, Edward II and then Edward III so three Edwards in a row.
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The grandfather is great, Edward I, Edward II not so great, pretty ignominious actually and then
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Edward III is great again, great in inverted commas. He's got a shout for being perhaps one of the
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greatest English monarchs of all time but some people do pick him as the best English king of
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all time. There's a few up there, depends how you measure it, doesn't it? But he ruled for a very
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long time, 50 odd years. He came to the crown quite young and although he didn't live to be
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spectacularly old, he did have a good innings, fairly good innings for the early middle ages
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and there's lots of martial achievements. He was a great warrior king but there are also some stains
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on his memory as well but he's certainly up there with one of the best, you know, with Edward I or
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Richard or Henry V, one of those guys. He's one of my favourites. I probably won't put him first but
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he's definitely a great story because there's so many events that go on. One thing I would say if
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you've been watching my previous series all about the late Republic and Caesar and Pompey, I went
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into that story in lots and lots and lots of detail. This one I'm going to zoom out a bit and try and do
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the whole of Edward III's life in one episode here. So be zoomed out a bit, so a bit more of a whistle
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stop tour of things. There's a lot going on, many many battles in France and the Black Death and any
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number of things. So let's just kick off the story. I should be mainly reading from a professor, Sir
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Charles Oman, who was a very eminent historian, a late 19th century, early 20th century professor of
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history at All Souls College, Oxford. So sort of a gold standard type historian, long before the age
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of wokeism, so we're free from any of that in his narrative. And I happen to think that the Edward III
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chapter in his book is a particularly good one, covers all the main events. So I'll be reading from
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that. So a bit of a recap then before we just dive in. If you've watched the last one or you know
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anything about Edward II, I'll have to do a small recap on that because the transition between Edward
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II and Edward III was a very, very messy one. Just to recap then very quickly, Edward II had got himself
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deposed by his own wife. He was a very, very unpopular king. He'd had lots of favourites like
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Piers Gaveston and later the Dispensers, father and son, and he had alienated himself from his own
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ruling class, his own baronage, and even his own wife, Isabella of France. In the end, they'd been
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estranged and she'd gone off to France to live in France in the court of her brother, the King of France.
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And Edward II had owed fealty for his holdings in Normandy and Gascony to the King of France.
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And he didn't want to pay that homage in person for political reasons, maybe out of pride as well,
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but more likely actually for political reasons. So he sent his son, his young son, who was only about,
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I think, 13 or 14 at the time, soon to be, in a few years' time, to be King Edward III. He sent his son
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over to France instead to pay fealty to the King of France for the Duchy of Normandy and the Duchy
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of Aquitaine in his stead. But that was a bad move because it then meant that the heir to the throne
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was now in the hands of the French and his mother, Isabella of France, and they weren't going to
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relinquish him. So politically, that was sort of a poor move by Edward II. But Edward II made many,
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many poor moves. Anyway, to cut ahead on this, because we want to talk about Edward III, not
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Edward II. Eventually, Isabella of France, backed up by a legitimate claimant to the throne, i.e. her
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son, Edward III, invades England with her new lover, Mortimer, who was an exiled English knight,
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baron, living in exile in France, because, as I said, Edward II had alienated so many of his own
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ruling class with a lot of other... They had a whole party of anti-Edward II people that they
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invaded England with and took Edward quite easily, in the end, prisoner, forced him to abdicate formally,
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legally, made the 14, 15-year-old Edward III, made him king, coronated him, again, legally, and then
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put Edward II in prison. And then what happened after that, whether he was starved to death or,
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you know, very brutally murdered, some say with a red-hot poker thrust inside of him, or not. That
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story's probably apocryphal, but we don't know. I think serious historians think that he was probably
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actually just starved to death. Anyway, he dies in captivity. Edward II dies in captivity. So now we're
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in a new world where we've got this young king, Edward III, on the throne, but actually he's so young
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that his mother and her lover, her new partner, Mortimer, they're the real power. The cockpit of
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power sits with them. They control all policy. So the boy king is kind of a puppet or a front man
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for their regime. But soon enough, Edward becomes old enough, by the time he's sort of 18 or 19 years
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old, he becomes old enough to sort of take the reins for himself. But as is often the way,
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people don't like giving up power if they don't have to. So he had to sort of wrestle the reins
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of power from his own mother and her lover. So I'll pick up the story there or let Sir Charles
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Oman pick up the story there. So Oman tells us this, quote,
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shameful as the state of the realm had been under the rule of Edward of Carmarthen, that's Edward II,
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and his favourites, a yet more disgraceful depth was reached in the years of minority of his son.
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The young king was only 14 and the government fell into the hands of those who had set him on the
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throne, his mother and her parable, Roger Mortimer. A council headed by Henry, Earl of Lancaster,
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was supposed to guide the king's steps. But as a matter of fact, he was in Queen Isabella's power,
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while she was entirely ruled by Mortimer. They were surrounded by a guard of 180 knights and
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acted as they pleased in all things. It was only gradually that the nation realised the state of
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affairs, for the murder of Edward II was long kept concealed. In fact, there was a persistent
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rumour that he wasn't dead. We'll get to that in a moment. And the relations of the queen and
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Mortimer were not at first generally known, because that also was a bit scandalous. A queen,
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a queen consul, even a widowed queen, shouldn't really marry someone as lowly as Mortimer. Not
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that he was a peasant, far from it. But still, it would have been a bit of a scandal if everyone
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knew about it. The first blow to the new government was the renewal of the Scottish War. So if you
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remember, Edward Longshanks had hammered the Scots here and there, lost a battle here and there,
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but basically sort of hammered them. And as soon as he died, literally as soon as he died,
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he was on campaign when he died against the Scots, Edward II takes over and loses and kind of keeps
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losing to the Scottish. So now all the Scottish question comes up again. So the renewal of the
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Scottish War. In 1328, Robert Bruce broke the truce that he had made six years before. He was now
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growing, advanced in age and was stricken by leprosy. But he sent out under James the Black
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Douglas, a great host, 4,000 knights and squires and 20,000 moss troopers, all horsed on shaggy
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Galloway ponies. They hurried England as far as the T's and successfully eluded Mortimer, who went
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out against them, taking the young king with him. In fact, this was quite a disastrous military
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campaign, really quite badly. Edward III is known as a great military king, again, among the greatest
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ones, like Richard or Henry V. But this early one, he wasn't really in command. I mean, nominally,
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he would have been, but he wasn't sort of the battlefield general. And it's one of the few times
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where he got into a really sticky situation. Omar doesn't tell us about it in fantastic detail. But
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at one point, the Scottish armies sort of got into his camp and even cut down some of the guide ropes to
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the king's tent. So about as close as you can get to being captured or possibly killed without being
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captured or killed. So really quite bad. Humiliating, really. But I'll let Omar continue here saying,
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Outmarching the English day by day, Douglas, that is the Black Douglas, the leader of the Scots,
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Douglas retired before them across the Northumbrian fells, occasionally harassing his pursuers by night
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attacks. He returned home with much plunder, leaving not a cow unlifted, nor a house unburnt
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in all of Tyndale. The English host came back foiled and half starved, and Mortimer, not daring
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to face another campaign, advised the queen to make terms with the Scots. Accordingly, the shameful
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peace was signed at Northampton, by which England resigned all claims of suzerainty over the Scotch
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realm, sent back the crown and royal jewels, which Edward I had carried off to London, and gave the
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king's sister, Joanna, to be wed to Bruce's eldest son. And all of that was in 1328. So pretty bad,
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really. You know, one of the lowest ebbs in this period of the Middle Ages in relations between
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England and Scotland, as far as England is concerned. This is a very low ebb, basically beaten in the field,
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soundly by the Scottish, and forced to sign a pretty humiliating treaty, giving up more or less
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everything that Edward I, the hammer of the Scots, had won. You know, just giving up any claim of
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suzerainty over the, i.e. lordship, over the Scottish crown. I mean, there you go, right there.
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That's the whole, that's the whole ballgame, the whole kit and caboodle, as far as the English
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monarchy was concerned. But it shan't last for too much longer. Oman continues, Mortimer's failure led to
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insurrections against him. So in the early medieval period, if you lose on the battlefield, your whole
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political position is undermined. It's like God has abandoned you. God doesn't want you to be
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successful. So Mortimer's failure was pretty bad. But they were mere baronial risings, not efforts of
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the whole people. Henry of Lancaster, who headed the first, was put down, the first of these risings,
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was put down and heavily fined for his pains. Edmund, Earl of Kent, then took up the same plan,
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announcing that he would free his half-brother, Edward II, who, as he was persuaded, had still
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survived. See, there was that rumour that Edward II hadn't been murdered, that he was just being
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kept prisoner very quietly somewhere, which wasn't true. But he, this Earl of Kent, Edmund,
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Earl of Kent, but he fell into Mortimer's hands and was beheaded. It was the young king himself who was
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destined to put an end to the misrule of his mother and her minion. When he reached the age of 18,
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and realised the shameful tutelage in which he had been held, he resolved to free himself from it by
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force. While the court lay at Nottingham Castle in October 1330, he gathered a small band of
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trustworthy adherents and, at midnight, entered the Queen's lodgings by a secret stare and seized
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Mortimer in spite of his mother's tears and curses. The favourite was sent before his peers,
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tried and executed. Isabella was relegated to honourable confinement at Castle Rising,
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where she lived for many years later." So that's a big thing there. I told you I'm going to sort of
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whiz through a bit of an overview of all the events, but that's a massive thing there. That's a real game
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changer. So the reins of power have shifted then from Isabella and Roger Mortimer over to Edward III now.
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And so that's a big thing, isn't it? Some people, someone like Henry VI, for example, will talk about,
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or Hamlet, obviously a fictional character, Hamlet, but lots of kings, Henry III, it's a real, real struggle
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for them to sort of take power away from the people or various peoples that held it for them while they
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were young. Well, Edward III is decisive. He does it in one swift movement, rather than the whole process
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being drawn out for years. And they're having to be all sorts of recriminations and factions,
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maybe even a civil war. No, Edward III, just boom, done. He's just taken it for himself. Very decisive
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and clean, right? It's quite a clean cut, clean break. Isabella of France just stowed away in a castle
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somewhere. Just keep quiet for the rest of your life now. And Mortimer himself killed. So, and it sets the tone
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of how Edward III goes on to reign, at least until he's an old man, decisively. An 18, 19-year-old,
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you know, like Alexander, say, who's prepared and capable to rule a kingdom and rule it competently.
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So much more in the mould of his grandfather, Longshanks, than in his father. So let's continue.
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Oman talks about the character of Edward III now. And although I've said a lot of people think he's
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the greatest king, and he's certainly got a shout to be the greatest, he did have some character faults.
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And Oman pulls no punches. So he says this, quote,
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King Edward now himself assumed the reins of government. He was still very young,
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but in the Middle Ages, men ripened quick, even if they did often die early. And Edward,
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at 19, was thought both by others and himself, old enough to take charge of the policy of the realm.
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He was in his youth a very well-served and well-loved sovereign, for he had all the qualities
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that attract popularity. A handsome person, pleasant and affable manners, a fluent tongue,
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and an energy that contrasted most happily with the listless indolence of his miserable father.
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It was many years before the world discovered that he was selfish, thriftless,
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reckless of his country's needs, and set on gratifying his personal ambition and love of warlike feats to
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the sacrifice of every other consideration. He was a knight-errant of the type of Richard
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Cur de Leon, not a statesman and warrior like his grandfather, Edward I. So he's saying he was a great
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knight, he was a great fighter, but he wasn't as much of a statesman. So, you know, fairly big criticism,
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actually, Omar makes that. In his later years, his faculties showed a premature decay. He may have
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suffered from strokes or maybe dementia, we don't know, but we'll get to it. But in his last years,
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there was something wrong for a fair few years of his life, but we'll get to that in due course.
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And he fell into the hands of favourites. This is in the last few years of his life. And he fell into the
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hands of favourites, male and female, who were almost as offensive as the gavistons and dispensers of the
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previous generation. Edward's reign fell into three well-marked periods. The first, 1330-39,
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is that of his Scottish wars. The second, 1339-60, i.e. the vast majority of his reign really,
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is that in which he began the famous and unhappy Hundred Years' War with France, and himself conducted
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it up to the brilliant but unwise piece of Bretigny. The third, 1360-77, was of his declining years,
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in a time of trouble and misgovernment gradually increasing till Edward sank,
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unregretted, into his grave." So there's this idea of the old king, the problem of the old king.
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If a king rules for too long, or rather just lives too long, his own children, they grow up and become
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middle-aged themselves. And if you've got lots and lots of sons, they're totally old enough to start
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squabbling and warring amongst themselves. You may even have a mass of grandchildren who are old
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enough to get involved in politics and fighting and war. And it just brings problems in Middle Ages
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or ancient times, where there's hereditary monarchies. If you've got a very, very old king
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with a bunch of children, which Edward has loads of children, quite a few boys who themselves have
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loads of children, it can cause dynastic problems. But once again, we'll get to that in due course.
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So continuing the narrative about the wars, the interminable wars with the Scots, we're told,
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quote, Robert Bruce, the terror of the English, had died in 1329, leaving his throne to his son,
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David II, a child of five years, five years old. The government fell into the hands of regents,
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who ill supplied the place of the dead king, and their weakness tempted the survivors of the English
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party in Scotland to strike a blow. Edward Balliol, the son of the long-dead John Balliol,
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accordingly made secret offers to Edward III that he would do homage to him for the Scottish crown
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and reign as his vassal. So the idea of Scotland becoming a vassal of the English crown again is back
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on the table. And the old rivalry between the Bruce's and the Balliol's going back to the age of
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Edward Longshanks again, it's sort of all happening again, a whole new tranche, a whole new generation of
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them, but it's the same thing over again. With Edward's connivance, the young Balliol gathered
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together the earls of Buchan and Athol and many other Scottish refugees in England and took ship
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to Scotland. He landed in Fife, was joined by his secret friends, beat the regent, the Earl of Mar,
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and seized the greater part of Scotland. He was crowned at Scone and forced the young David Bruce to flee
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overseas to France to save his life. Of course, the French, the old alliance, the French always would
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help out the Scottish. They've got, of course, they've got a common enemy, the English. So annoying
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from the English point of view that the Scots and the French will team up and help each other out
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wherever possible. Well, in the age of Edward III, that is put to bed for a while. I'll let Oman continue
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here saying, but soon the National Party of Scotland, he's talking about, rose against Balliol, expelled
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him and chased him back to England. Edward then took the field in his favour and met the Scots at
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Hallidon Hill near Berwick. This battle of Hallidon Hill is massive. It's bigger than, more important
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than Bannockburn. It's the most important battle between the Scots and the English, I would say,
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for a good generation. So this is a big one. It's not often known, it's not often talked about,
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rather, but it's a very decisive battle. I mean, it's kind of up there with Cressy or Aginc or,
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you know, very, very important one and not often talked about. Here at Hallidon Hill,
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he inflicted on them a crushing defeat, which the English celebrated as a fair revenge for the blow
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of Bannockburn. For the regent, Archibald Douglas, four earls and many thousand men were left on the
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field, left dead, that is. They fell mainly by the arrows of the English archery,
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for, having drawn themselves out on a hillside behind a marsh, they stood as a broad target for
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the bowmen, whom they were unable to reach. The intervening marshy ground prevented their heavy
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columns of pikemen from advancing, and they were routed without even the chance of coming to hand
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strokes. That was in July 1333. So there you can see this idea that the English bowmen, a lot of them
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Welsh, were able to just rain down arrows on their enemy, usually from a bit of higher ground,
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a hill or a crest, and that that was devastating. Well, this Hallidon Hill is one of the first
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examples of it, and it shan't be the last. For quite a few generations now, the English used exactly
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that tactic to beat armies way bigger than them again and again and again in France and all over
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the place. And it seems that their enemies, the enemies of the English, don't really learn the lesson.
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It takes them a long time to learn the lesson that the English longbow is sort of the most fearsome
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ranged weapon of the age by far. It's so much more powerful than any sort of crossbow or any other
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designs of bow. So yeah, it's first really shown at Hallidon Hill, or it'd been done before Hallidon
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Hill, but this is the first really, really famous example of it. And Edward III is completely in
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control. He's the, you know, he's the undisputed king now, and he gets a reputation after this for
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being, starts to get the reputation for being a great military commander, because it was so decisive.
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And he only keeps burnishing and polishing that reputation as the years go on. We're told, quote,
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this victory made Edward Balliol king of Scotland for a second time. He did homage to his champion,
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Edward III, and ceded to him Tweeddale and Harthlovian. But the crown won by English help
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sat uneasy on Balliol's brow. After several years of spasmodic fighting, he was finally driven out of
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his realm and took refuge again in England. This time he found less help, for Edward III was now plunged
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deep into schemes of another kind, because basically Hallidon Hill was so decisive that
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the Scottish question had been answered for a while from the English point of view. So now Edward can
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turn his attention to affairs on the continent, or in France, basically, which he does. And, you know,
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it isn't really settled finally, one way or another, during his life, even though he's got many decades
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left to rule. We're told this. Nine years of comparative quiet had done much to recover
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England from the misery it had known in the last reign. The baronage and people were serving the
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young king loyally, taxation had not yet been heavy, and the success of Hallidon Hill had restored the
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nation's self-respect. Edward himself was flushed by victory and burning for fresh adventures. Hence it
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came that, neglecting the nearer but less showy task of restoring the English suzerainty over Scotland,
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he turned to wars over sea. One of the usual frontier quarrels between French and Gasconnes
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had broken out in 1337 on the borders of Aquitaine. In consequence, Philip VI of France had, like so many
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of his predecessors, taken measures to support Edward's Scottish enemies, the Old Alliance, and given shelter
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to the exiled boy king, David Bruce. War between England and France was probably inevitable, but
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Edward chose to make it a life and death struggle by laying claim to the throne of France and branding
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Charles VI as a usurper. So, as again, Charles Oman doesn't go into a fantastic amount of details, but
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that area of Gascony and Aquitaine in central southern France, modern-day France, they'd been fighting on and
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off between those people, the native Gasconnes and the king, the king of France, on and off, sort of
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kind of always, it would always been a bit of an issue. Now, it's a power struggle, a real power
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struggle, but Edward III uses, uses that situation to, as a case of Bella, to go to war. It's not like
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suddenly a Philip VI was suddenly much, much more aggressive and bellicose and Edward III is just
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reacting to it. No, not really. You could choose to take offence at something, you know. You can choose
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to turn a blind eye, or not, for political reasons. And anyway, Edward, the young Edward III decides
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that enough is enough, and he's going to go the whole hog. Like Omar says, make it a matter of
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life and death. Edward III basically says, I've had enough of this. I just don't recognise
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your claim to the throne of France, because there had been quite a lot of succession problems with
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France, the Kingdom of France. You could make the argument, if you wanted to, that the current king
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was not necessarily the legitimate king. I mean, it's a bit of a dodgy, shaky argument to be made,
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but there is one there. And Edward III says, going back generations, that if anything, somebody else
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should take the throne, this Philip is a usurper. Why not me, i.e. Edward III? Because he was descended
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in a slightly less direct way to the French throne himself. Like his mother was Isabella of France,
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for example. So, a princess of France. So, technically, Edward doesn't have the greatest
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claim, but there is a claim. And anyway, it's more about realpolitik than strict family trees.
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So, okay, this is what kicks off the Hundred Years' War. Oman tells us about it, saying, quote,
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The question of the French succession dates from some years back. In 1328, died Edward's uncle,
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King Charles IV, the last of the direct male descendants of Philip IV. The problem that cropped
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up for the first time, whether the French crown should descend to females, or whether the next male
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heir should be chosen, although he was but the cousin of the late king. So, there you go,
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Edward III was cousin of the old king, but through a woman, i.e. his mother. Which is a pretty damn
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good claim, but there's a better claim out there, right? But there you go. Professor Sir Charles Oman
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goes on to say exactly that. The peers of France are judged that by the Salic Law, an old custom
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ascribed to the ancient Franks, only male descent counted in tracing claims to the throne. Accordingly,
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they are judged the kingdom to Philip of Valois, who was crowned as Philip VI. Edward, as own nephew
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through his mother to Charles IV, had protested at the time, but he had practically withdrawn his protest
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by doing homage to Philip for the Duchy of Aquitaine, and thereby acknowledging the justice of the award.
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There you can see it's about power dynamics and realpolitik there, rather than true right. Edward
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had already accepted this Philip as king of France, but now the political and military situation was
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sort of in his favour, so he's going to go back on that, basically. Now, in 1337, Edward began to
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think of reviving his dormant pretensions to the French crown, though they had two fatal defects.
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The first, that there had never been any precedent in France for a claim through the female line.
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The second was that, even if such dissents could be counted, one of his mother's brothers had left
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a daughter, the Queen of Nevers, and the son of that princess had a better female claim than Edward
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himself. The only way in which this defect could be ignored was by pleading, like Bruce in 1292,
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that England was a generation nearer to the old royal stock than his cousin, Charles, King of Nevers.
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On this rather futile plea, Edward laid solemn claim to the French crown, and declared Philip of Valois
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a usurper. Perhaps there may be truth in the story which tells that he did not do so from any strong
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belief in his own theory, but because the Flemings, vassals to the French crown, had declared that they
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could not aid him, though willing to do so, on account of oaths of fealty swung to the King of
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France. So the Flemings, the people from the Low Countries, modern-day Belgium and Southern Holland
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and stuff, getting involved, they actually play a fairly big part politically in all of this, though
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Oman doesn't talk about them at great length, but they are a key element in it all. Bear that in mind.
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If Edward claimed to be King himself, they said, their allegiance and help would be due to him. So
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hey, without their help, he might not have done this, but they said they would help him, and therefore
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the whole adventure looks much more likely to succeed, and therefore gets green-lit. Therefore,
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Edward does actually pull the trigger on it. It may well have been the Flemings' help which decided that
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decision. Whether the tale be true or not, he at any rate made the claim. In reliance on the assistance of
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the Flemings and of their neighbours, the Duke of Brabant and the Count of Holland, and with the
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countenance of the Emperor, Louis of Bavaria, that's the Holy Roman Emperor, King Edward determined
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to land in the Low Countries and attack France from the north. He called out great bodies of soldiery
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and took advantage of the devotion that the nation felt for him to raise illegal taxes for their pay.
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Violating his grandfather's engagements, he took a tallage – a tax – from the towns and levied a
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maltot, an extra custom duty, on the export of wool. In the excitement of the moment,
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little opposition was made to these high-handed measures. One thing to note is that Parliament
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is still very much in its early days at this point, still in the first half of the 14th century.
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Parliament hasn't got the power that it will have in a couple of hundred years' time, where it can
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sort of force the King to make concessions. I mean, it can to some extent, but not massively.
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And in this period, as Oman just told us, public opinion was just with him, which counts for a
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great deal, or it counts for everything really, in this period. Oman goes on,
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But Edward's campaign against France proved utterly unsuccessful. His Netherland allies were of
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little use to him. King Philip refused to risk a battle in the field, and an attack on Cambrai was
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defeated. One of the main things there is that the King of France, Philip, refused battle. So that's a
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big thing when you really need a set-piece battle in order for any sort of decisive victory. If the
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enemy just refused to do that, then you're in a bit of a sticky situation. I mean, you can maybe claim
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the moral high ground, or claim that your enemy is a coward or something, but if you haven't defeated
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his armies, because he refuses to let you do so, then you haven't defeated his armies, right? Kind of
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as simple as that. Edward had to return to England to raise more money, while at home he heard that a
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great French fleet had been collected for the conquest of Flanders, and a subsequent attack on
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England. The Royal Navy, there was a very, very minimal Royal Navy at this point. Of course, in
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centuries to come, the Royal Navy is famous for being gigantic and all-powerful, so not that long
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ago in the scheme of things, that any sort of navy was put together. So we have got a Royal Navy,
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but it's far from completely dominant or ruling the waves in any real sense. It's not until Henry VIII,
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or, well, Elizabeth really, that all that starts to get dialed up in earnest, which is a long way
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off still. Hastily raising all the ships he could gather from London and the kink ports, the king set
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sail to seek the enemy. He found them in harbour at the Flemish port of Sloys. I may be pronouncing
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that wrong. It's spelled S-L-U-Y-S, and I've seen many, many people pronounce that word in many,
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many, many different ways. If there's anyone from Belgium or Holland who wants to correct me on
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exactly how that's pronounced, but I think it's Sloys, okay? It's the battle of Sloys. And there
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brought them to action, i.e. a big naval engagement. If you would like to see the full version of this
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