PREVIEW: Epochs #213 | Henry V: Part VIII
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Summary
It's the eve of the Battle of Agincourt, and the French are feeling pretty confident about their chances of victory. They've got a good night's rest, they've got good food, and they're well and truly prepared to go all in on the enemy. The English are not so prepared.
Transcript
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If you remember last time we left off on the eve of the Battle of Agincourt, St Crispin's Day, the 25th of October, 1415.
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I did promise I could read from more than one source this time.
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But however, I will pick up once again with Ian Multimer and then we'll move on to different accounts.
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The first thing to say is that despite the amount of evidence we've got,
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I've said a number of times in this series, haven't I, that we're actually blessed with quite a lot of information.
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But it's still the 15th century, early 15th century, so it's not, you know, completely in the light of history as we might like.
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I mean, it is completely in the light of history, but, you know, we're not flooded with sources.
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One of the things to say about the Battle of Agincourt is that even though there are accounts from both sides,
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And that's one of the things why I want to read from multiple different sources in this episode and maybe the next episode,
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is to show that different historians have got different ideas about exactly what happened.
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I mean, if we just talk about the archaeology very briefly,
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the battlefield where people always thought, always said the Battle of Agincourt took place,
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in recent years, archaeologists have shown that it's almost certainly not the battlefield.
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The battlefield must be in that area, it must be nearby, but the actual field that historians thought was Agincourt,
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there's like not really any bodies there, there's hardly any arrowheads, it's sort of clearly not a battlefield.
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And yeah, the accounts differ on exactly how the battle itself went down, the exact details,
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the exact chronology of what happened in what order.
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So although we've got a reasonable idea of what happened that day, the Feast of St. Crispin's,
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Again, the day before, on the night before the battle, I mean, if you know your Shakespeare,
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there's a great scene in Shakespeare where the night before the French are all sort of drinking and whooping it up
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and having a good time because they're pretty convinced they're going to win on the morrow.
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They're finally going to smash the dreaded English up because they've got them outnumbered,
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they've got them cornered, the English are suffering from dysentery,
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they've got, they haven't got many knights, mounted knights,
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they haven't even got that many, relatively that many men-at-arms.
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It's just a bunch of archers that are outnumbered with low morale and dysentery.
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So the French feel like tomorrow is their big day and it's sort of a slam dunk, it's a fait accompli.
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And the English, for their part, are sort of terribly worried and saying,
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literally saying their prayers, expecting to get slaughtered when the sun comes up in the morning.
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And Shakespeare has a great scene where good King Harry, good King Hal,
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warlike Harry goes round the camp and sometimes not making it clear it's him,
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but other times sort of instilling people with the spirit to fight on, you know,
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But I won't go on too much about Shakespeare because I'm more interested in the actual history.
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So let's pick up from Thursday with Ian Mortimer, let's pick up on Thursday the 24th,
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The English crossed the river Conch this morning and proceeded directly northwards towards Blangie,
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The Duke of York and the whole of the vanguard was ahead.
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Advanced English troops regularly came under attack from squadrons of French men-at-arms.
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Seven Lancashire archers were captured in one engagement.
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It was becoming clear that both sides were racing for the Ternoise.
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there would be a battle with no safe retreat for the English.
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Although most of the troops had not eaten properly for several days
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and avoiding a pitched battle with the better fed,
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better equipped and more numerous French men-at-arms.
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we'll have the English top brass complaining that the French are all fresh.
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but they're well fed and ready to rock and roll
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he was told that his herbigers had identified a place in a particular village
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But he continued, ignorant of where the town was.
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When informed that he had ridden a mile and a half past it,
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and it would not do for him to turn up at a village when dressed for war.
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So he rode on, taking the main battle of the army with him
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and ordered the Duke of York to lead the vanguard further ahead.
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When the Duke of York came to the hill overlooking Blangie,
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he saw French troops desperately trying to destroy the bridge.
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Immediately he attacked and fought the men-at-arms there,
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One returned with a worried face and anxious, gasping breath
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and announced to the Duke that a great countless multitude was approaching.
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Another account states that the scouts who first spotted the French,
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Being astonished at the size of the French army,
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for you are about to fight against such a huge host
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Soon other scouts returned and confirmed this sighting.
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despite the fact that they were able to get across the Somme,
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their ultimate destination and chance of hope of getting home.
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They're still basically cornered between two French armies.
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or the English army is running out of escape routes.
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They're sort of getting more and more cut off and surrounded,
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so the valley must have come in Henry's sight about noon
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The author of the Gesta, i.e. contemporary history,
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notes that the main battle caught their first sight of the enemy here.
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They were emerging further up the valley to the right.
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and climbed rapidly up the hill on the far side.
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they were suddenly confronted by the French army.
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It was not their expressions to which he was referring.
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And this is a quote from the Gesta, which says,
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Their numbers were so great as to not even be comparable with owls,
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filling a very broad field like a swarm of countless locusts.
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It was a sentiment echoed by every writer on the English side
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always comes up whenever anyone ever really talks about the battle.
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So there's no doubt, there's literally no doubt in anyone's mind
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they all seem to have a slightly different take on it.
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From everything I know and from everything I've read over the years,
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it seems to me it was at least three or four to one,
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I feel like probably anything more than that would be an exaggeration.
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Some of the more technical historians get into the fact
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that there simply wasn't enough room in the countryside
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You know, it just seems unlikely that the English were outnumbered 20 to one
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I mean, sort of physically not possible, not likely.
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But, you know, two, three, four to one, certainly.
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I wouldn't be surprised if it was like six to one.
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We don't know exactly because the French numbers were never clear.
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We know almost exactly how many English soldiers there were.
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And we'll get into all this later when we get onto the battle itself
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But anyway, I'm sure I'll talk about that more as we go on.
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As the army ascended the hill from Blonghi to Maisoncel
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and looked for the first time across the field of Agincourt,
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it's, you know, sort of in the French interests
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that they didn't have such a fantastic advantage.
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You know, it's more embarrassing to lose a battle
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who was actually in the English army at the time?
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Or did the French outnumber the English just three to two,
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as the chronicle written by a Parisian cleric said?
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and now Ian Mortimer lays his cards on the table
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The actual ratio of Frenchmen to Englishmen at the battle
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Indeed, it was probably slightly less than that.
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The English army of between 8,000 and 9,000 fighting men
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found themselves facing between 12,000 and 15,000 Frenchmen.
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There simply is no evidence to support a larger French army.
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Well, more men did stream in all during the next day,
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have done so largely because of national pride and tradition,
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have themselves failed to answer a crucial question
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agree that the French hugely outnumbered the English?
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and the numbers of their respective non-combatants.
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English companies had 30 archers to every 10 men-at-arms,
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to distinguish between the men-at-arms and the pages.
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But when the English looked at the French army,
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not including the 4,000 or 5,000 archers and crossbowmen,
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and the extra infantry raised from the locality.
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as the Burgundian chroniclers and Jules suggest,
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then the English probably really did see an army
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about three times the size of their own fighting force,
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I still don't think it necessarily completely answers
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the question that Ian Mortimer himself posed there.
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Why do so many of the chroniclers state it so forcefully
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and that the English couldn't tell the difference
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Why would the pages be riding the horses around?
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to French military prestige over the centuries.
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because we've already had the Battle of Tours and Crecy,