The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - November 02, 2025


PREVIEW: Epochs #235 | The Battle of Verdun: Part II


Episode Stats

Length

24 minutes

Words per Minute

176.19966

Word Count

4,323

Sentence Count

208

Hate Speech Sentences

18


Summary

The Battle of Verdun is the longest battle in WWI, lasting almost 9 months, and lasting the longest in terms of time, it's the Deadliest Battle of the First World War. And it all started at 4am on the morning of the 21st February 1916.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome back to Epochs. Last time if you remember we were talking all about the Battle of
00:00:25.560 Verdun, the lead up to the Battle of Verdun and this time we're going to actually jump straight
00:00:30.720 into the full events, how it actually played out and if you remember last time as well I told you
00:00:36.440 it lasted for a very long time, in fact it's the longest battle of World War I, something like
00:00:41.140 nine months, give or take, depending exactly how you measure it, exactly when it ended. So it starts
00:00:46.900 in February, it certainly starts at an exact moment, 4am, exactly on the dot, 4am on the 21st of
00:00:53.520 February 1916 is when it opened and it starts with a German attack which lasts something like
00:00:58.880 four months and then there's the French counter-attack which lasts something like another
00:01:03.620 four months, five months. So yeah it doesn't end until December, basically December of 1916. Okay
00:01:10.020 so a couple more things to say before we talk about what happened at 4am on the 21st of February is that
00:01:15.780 the Germans managed to build up a giant army and a giant number of guns, artillery pieces, in almost
00:01:24.540 complete secret, I mean not 100% secret because that's not really possible, the French still would
00:01:32.080 have some idea that something was coming but they had, it seems that the French had no idea quite what
00:01:39.440 the Germans had built up. Now on the German side of the lines, I mean we're in France but it's quite
00:01:45.200 close to the German border, the Germans had multiple rail heads, multiple you know rail tracks leading up to
00:01:54.160 the Verdun sector on their side of the lines. So they could get and did use these multiple railway lines,
00:02:00.880 what's it, six, seven, eight of them, to get a crazy amount of materiel to the front lines.
00:02:08.160 Thousands and thousands of guns, heavy guns and obviously thousands and tens of thousands of men
00:02:14.160 and everything that they need, right, food, victuals, water, just ammo for their small arms, boots,
00:02:21.360 uniforms, everything right and they managed to do it in almost complete secret. The French certainly had no
00:02:27.600 idea that a giant, giant offensive was about to happen. As I say, they knew something was in the
00:02:32.960 air, there'll be some like deserters, there'll be the odd spire, there'll be the odd observation balloon
00:02:39.200 but by and large, somehow, incredibly. Well one of the reasons why the Germans were able to do it is
00:02:43.760 because we're still in the very, very, very early period of radio, they're not really using radio much
00:02:49.520 at all, they use more telegraph lines basically. So by the age of World War II there's this whole idea
00:02:57.360 of signals intelligence, this whole idea that you can tap into your enemy's radio and hear what
00:03:04.320 they're saying, tap into your opponent's communications in all different ways. Well you can't really do
00:03:12.160 that in World War I if your enemy's just using a very, very simple telegraph wire. I mean it would
00:03:19.200 be possible to tap into that but as long as you make sure that your telegraph wire hasn't been tapped
00:03:24.800 into, like the one line, sometimes there'll be one line leading from, one telegraph wire leading
00:03:30.400 from the front trench back behind the lines, as long as you make sure that all the way along that wire
00:03:35.600 it hasn't been spliced with an enemy one and they're listening in, which very much often wasn't the
00:03:41.920 case because these front lines, front line trenches and reserve trenches were so impregnable most of the time
00:03:46.800 that you did have relatively secure communications from the front line back to your HQ. So whereas in
00:03:55.840 World War II for example it was quite difficult for one side to keep something big secret for long,
00:04:02.000 not including things like you know the Manhattan Project and stuff like that that are done way back
00:04:06.640 in continental United States, even though that wasn't kept secret ultimately. Anyway I digress. The reason why
00:04:12.640 the Germans at Verdun in 1916 were able to build up such a large amount, it's a giant army there in
00:04:19.200 almost complete secrecy, it's just because signals were so primitive still. So the Germans build up
00:04:25.280 this this this giant force and they call it Operation Gericht, which means judgment basically. Operation
00:04:32.080 Judgment is quite ominous. Today I'm going to read variously on and off from William F Buckingham's
00:04:37.440 Verdun in 1916, The Deadliest Battle of the First World War. And here's what he says about sort of
00:04:42.480 this this the very very opening phases. Quote, unlike the preceding nine days, the early morning
00:04:48.320 of Monday the 21st of February at Verdun was cold. Yeah apparently it was like bitterly cold. There's
00:04:53.360 like snow during the day, it's that cold. Verdun was bitterly cold, generally clear and brightly
00:04:59.040 illuminated by a full moon. In the woods north and east of Verdun in excess of 1,200 German artillery pieces
00:05:07.120 ranging from 75 millimetres located in the front line to massive 420 millimetre howitzers. If you
00:05:14.880 don't know, a 420 millimetre howitzer is insanely large. That's like a naval gun basically. A crazily
00:05:23.600 long range, like 20 miles or something. And the shell is like the size of a human. If you put a high
00:05:28.560 explosive in that, that's just a giant, sort of an unbelievably huge gun. The massive 420 millimetre
00:05:35.360 howitzers were sighted on targets in and behind the French lines. As Alistair Horn put it, quote,
00:05:41.440 there was hardly room for a man to walk between the massed cannon and ammunition dumps, and quote,
00:05:46.800 Buckingham goes on. Each battery of 77 millimetre field guns had a stock of 3,000 ready rounds
00:05:53.040 cached on the guns positions, with a further 3,000 waiting to be brought up. 105 millimetre howitzers
00:05:59.360 were stocked with 2,000 ready rounds, and the 210 millimetre and 420 millimetre howitzers
00:06:05.920 with 1,200 rounds ready. The first shots of Operation Gericht were fired at 4am by the three 380
00:06:13.920 millimetre naval guns belonging to Captain Lieutenant Hans Walter Schultz, marines under commando. So they
00:06:20.560 really were naval guns being repurposed. From their emplacements at Sorrel Farm, the Bois de Miserie
00:06:26.640 and the Bois de Warifont, 17 miles northeast of Verdun. So these big guns are like 17 miles away.
00:06:33.520 They can't be seen by the French, even with like an observation balloon. Well, they weren't, they
00:06:37.440 weren't seen. You were able to bring them up quietly under the cover of night and put them under,
00:06:41.360 put them in a forest. I mean, the French word for tree or forest, wood,
00:06:45.440 is Bois in this, in this story where I talk about different places in and around the Verdun sector.
00:06:52.080 A lot of them start with Bois de something, which is the French for forest or wood, wood something or
00:06:57.680 other. So yeah, you bring them up under the cover of darkness with sort of radio silence. You put them
00:07:03.280 under heavy tree cover. So even if an aeroplane flies over, they won't see it. And suddenly a 380
00:07:08.720 millimeter or 420 millimeter gun from 17 miles away is blowing up your positions. It's crazy,
00:07:15.200 crazy stuff goes on here. The guns targets included Verdun's railway station and yard
00:07:20.240 and the city's bridges across the river Meuse. Because if you can blow up the train station,
00:07:25.600 the one train station and the one railhead that the French have got running into Verdun from behind
00:07:31.760 their lines, then it stops them or at least very much slows them down from bringing in reserves and
00:07:38.160 replacements and material of their own. So that's their first target, basically.
00:07:42.320 Blow up the train station and the railway, if you can, as much as possible. So they were trying to
00:07:46.240 blow up the railway station and the yard and the city's bridges across the river Meuse,
00:07:49.600 but a shell from the first salvo landed in the yard of the Bishop's Palace next to the cathedral.
00:07:54.960 This was likely from the newly installed gun emplacement at Sorel Farm, which fired its first round
00:08:00.480 on the 21st of February. Whether or not, succeeding shots did reduce the railway yard
00:08:05.680 to a cratered ruin and set the station building ablaze in short order, thus interrupting the
00:08:10.640 supply of munitions flowing through the city to the front. Other long-range guns sought out French
00:08:15.120 headquarters, road junctions and other installations. Nearer the front, Fort Douaumont was hit by the first
00:08:21.760 of 62 420mm shells that were to pummel the fort in the first four days of the attack. So here's the
00:08:28.880 thing to remind you about, that you've got the actual town of Verdun in the middle of this position
00:08:35.120 and around it all sorts of faults. I mean, Verdun is surrounded on more or less on three sides by a
00:08:41.120 higher ground and it's not sort of like a proper like saucer-shaped valley like Florence. Florence,
00:08:49.040 the city of Florence sort of sits in a saucer, but it's something close to that. On at least three
00:08:54.320 sides, Verdun, there's higher ground, right? Hills and long hills, ridgelines. So the idea is from
00:09:02.560 the German point of view, if we can take the high ground and they've already got some of it on the
00:09:06.720 eastern side of the Meuse, if we can take that and get our artillery up there, just rain down
00:09:11.760 artillery on them forever, there's not really anything they can do about it. That, you know,
00:09:16.080 it's a classic thing to take the high ground is strategically, tactically vital or important,
00:09:20.480 or just gives you a giant upper hand, doesn't it? And so there's all these faults around Verdun and
00:09:26.240 some are much more vital than others. Some hilltops, some ridgelines are much more vital
00:09:31.440 than others. You know, if the Germans get that particular hilltop, then they can just see down
00:09:36.720 onto the next fault and they'll definitely be able to take it. And if they take this ridgeline,
00:09:40.960 then they can see down onto Verdun itself or something with long enough ranged artillery pieces.
00:09:46.640 And so it becomes a battle for like, yeah, the hilltops or the ridgelines and these certain
00:09:52.400 faults. Fault Douaumont is arguably the most important one. It's like probably the top three
00:09:57.520 or four. People say it's the most important one. It's one of the biggest ones. I think it is the
00:10:02.400 biggest one. The amount of time and energy and money the French had put into building it in the
00:10:06.400 first place in like the 1880s, you know, not long after the Franco-Prussian War of 1870 to 1871.
00:10:13.120 The amount of time and energy and money and resources they put into building it.
00:10:17.200 And again, this idea that the faults are mutually reinforcing, that they cover each other, right?
00:10:23.200 The big guns at Fort Douaumont, for example, aren't really necessarily meant for defending
00:10:27.520 Fort Douaumont. They're meant for defending the next fault over or a couple of other faults.
00:10:33.680 And then those other faults, their big guns are meant for defending Fort Douaumont. You see what I mean?
00:10:39.040 OK, so the thing about these faults that's crazy to know is that by this point, by 1916,
00:10:45.680 the French High Command, Supreme Command, had decided that faults weren't that good anymore.
00:10:51.360 Now, in hindsight, with 2020 godlike perfect hindsight, we know that that's sort of not
00:10:56.720 really right. The thing that sometimes happens in war, because every war that happens is a new one.
00:11:01.920 There's the old cliche, isn't it, that generals fight the previous war,
00:11:04.960 and they're always taken off guard by the one they're actually fighting in real time.
00:11:08.560 But sometimes what happens in war is that something new happens, it's not really ever happened before.
00:11:12.880 And the generals, the planners, learn the wrong lesson from it, right?
00:11:17.440 For example, for one quick example, very, very broadly speaking here as well,
00:11:21.760 bear that in mind, what I'm about to say is a very, very broad strokes of the brush.
00:11:25.200 But when tanks, the very, very first tanks were used, they weren't necessarily all that brilliant.
00:11:30.720 They weren't sort of game changers, right?
00:11:32.880 It wasn't immediately clear that tanks would be the future of warfare, 20th century warfare.
00:11:38.480 That wasn't clear at all, because the very first tank designs were kind of crappy,
00:11:43.360 and they weren't used in big enough numbers. And there was all sorts of reasons why.
00:11:47.360 The very first time tanks were used, everyone didn't immediately think,
00:11:51.040 all right, we need to gear all our industry to building tanks and designing tanks, right?
00:11:56.160 They didn't learn the lesson right away. So one thing that happened here with faults,
00:12:00.000 is that right at the beginning of World War I, in 1914, when the Germans swept through Belgium,
00:12:05.920 there was a giant forge at Liège, a giant, giant fault that was supposed to be, you know, impregnable.
00:12:12.800 It was supposed to be that you couldn't take it. The Germans would not be able to take it.
00:12:16.640 Even their biggest guns wouldn't be able to punch through. And the defences were lined up in such
00:12:22.960 a way that it just wouldn't be possible for it to be taken. Well, for various reasons, which I won't
00:12:27.760 go into, because that's not really what this story is about. The Germans did take it relatively quickly.
00:12:33.280 Okay. That just happened at the edge. Now, the French, well, both sides, but particularly the French
00:12:38.480 high command, took the wrong lesson from that. They looked at that and they said, oh,
00:12:43.200 war has moved on. War's different now. Faults like that are not as good as we thought,
00:12:48.400 or nowhere near as good as we thought. Actually, you know, the lesson they took from this is incorrect,
00:12:55.040 essentially. I mean, it's right to degree, but they took it way too far. They thought, oh no,
00:13:00.560 faults are just a place where we can get pinned down and surrounded and snuffed out. That's all they are
00:13:06.800 now. They thought, you know, we're not living in the age of Frederick the Great or Napoleon. There's no
00:13:12.000 point trying to hold a fault like that if all you do is sit there under bombardment for a few days,
00:13:17.920 hoping you don't get killed by some giant German howitzer, and then eventually they take it anyway.
00:13:23.280 They were thinking, you know, it's best to be more fluid, have more movement. Let's not let ourselves
00:13:30.000 get pinned down in one position. If we need to move our line and move back and then we'll do it that way.
00:13:36.960 So these giant faults are actually a hindrance, if anything. That's what they thought. That's what
00:13:41.600 the French and English planners were thinking at this point, at the end of 1914 and all through 1915.
00:13:48.720 They're thinking, you know, it's a shame. It's a waste. We've spent so much time and energy and money
00:13:52.240 on building faults all over the place. But they're actually, they're counterproductive,
00:13:56.880 if anything, they were thinking. You know, why put loads and loads of artillery and men in these faults,
00:14:02.640 only for it all to get captured. Okay. Okay. That was their thinking. The Supreme Commander of the
00:14:07.040 French, General Joffre, Joseph Joffre, decided, and he wasn't alone, he had the backing of all the
00:14:13.600 French general staff, that we need all the guns we can and all the men we can at various points.
00:14:20.800 So instead of stuffing faults like Fort Douaumont and Fort Vaux around Verdun, instead of stuffing them
00:14:26.880 with men and artillery and giant magazines of shells, which are never used because the Germans never
00:14:34.960 attack there, that's a waste. That's just sitting there being wasted. And we need, we need those men,
00:14:40.240 guns and ammo in other places. So they had stripped out most of these faults. They weren't,
00:14:47.040 like something like Fort Douaumont, which is a massive, was a massive installation, to garrison
00:14:52.480 thousands and thousands of men, of dozens and dozens, hundreds of guns, tens of thousands of
00:14:57.280 rounds of ammo. They were sort of sitting empty, almost empty. And we'll get to the details of
00:15:02.800 specifically Fort Douaumont later in this episode. But they weren't these crazily strong points that
00:15:08.800 everyone thought they were, that the Germans thought they would be. And before I go on, just to say as a
00:15:13.440 counterpoint to everything I just said there, the thinking wasn't completely wrong as well, right?
00:15:18.560 These faults, although it's better than sitting in a trench, you know, being underground with many,
00:15:23.760 many, many meters of concrete above your head, reinforced concrete above your head,
00:15:28.400 is better than just sitting in a muddy dugout or even a trench that's open to the air. It is better
00:15:34.960 than that. But it can also be a tomb as well. You know, it's not entirely wrong. But okay,
00:15:42.000 there you go. It's a bit of both. All right, I'll let Buckingham continue the story of what's
00:15:46.240 happening on the morning of the 21st of February, 1916. He says,
00:15:49.280 The main bombardment, German bombardment, began between 7am and 7.15. So they'd opened up at 4am,
00:15:57.360 but at 7am, it gets even more intense. Controlled by six observation balloons, all 1,200 guns began
00:16:06.160 firing along the entire perimeter of the Verdun salient from Le Aparez on the east bank of the
00:16:12.320 Meuse to Malencore on the west. Apologies to any French people listening who appreciate that I'm
00:16:18.560 butchering some of these words. The ones that are more famous that I've heard people say,
00:16:22.560 I can mimic enough, but ones that are a bit more obscure, which I haven't. Probably really badly
00:16:27.360 butchering them. Anyway, and the barrage was stretched to include around 50 miles of the front,
00:16:32.240 as guns from adjacent formations joined in to confuse the French about the precise location of
00:16:37.760 the coming attack. The guns around the salient fired at maximum rate until 8am when they dropped back
00:16:44.800 to a more sustainable rate of fire. The resultant concussion was noticeable 100 miles away. General
00:16:51.680 Fenelon-Francois Passagar felt it pulsing through the floor and heard the distant rumble and thump of
00:16:57.840 the guns in his command post in the Vosges, for example. A long way away. One French participant
00:17:04.240 later described how the whole area behind the German lion seemed to be blowing a gale of flame without
00:17:10.480 interruption. The bombardment was targeted so effectively that all communications between Verdun
00:17:16.160 and the French lion had been cut within an hour of the bombardment beginning. Again, communication
00:17:21.600 lions are basically a telegraph wire, not radios. So if you are able to cut that line, either a man
00:17:28.720 with the equivalent of wire snips or a high explosive shell can break that line, that one little really,
00:17:34.960 really thin cable basically, then yeah. Then the front line guys can't let the reserve trenches and the
00:17:41.120 HQ know what's going on. That was very often a thing that both sides would see their enemy trying
00:17:45.760 to lay a telegraph wire and snipers and artillery try and kill that one guy as much as they can,
00:17:54.000 because that could make all the difference. Very, very dangerous to be one of those guys that lays,
00:17:59.760 was replacing an already destroyed telegraph line. The carefully plotted French artillery positions
00:18:05.840 were saturated with high explosives and phosgene gas shells against which French respirators offered
00:18:12.240 no protection. To say phosgene gas is particularly horrible. French counter fire consequently fell away
00:18:18.480 to almost nothing, with the exception of the French guns brought up as part of the last minute
00:18:23.120 reinforcement initiated by General de Castilno at the end of January. So as I say, right at the end of
00:18:30.000 January, by the end of January, the French realised the Germans were doing something. The Germans
00:18:34.960 couldn't keep it entirely secret. They realised that Germans were doing something. There was going
00:18:38.240 to be some sort of action there from the Germans, but they, again, they had no idea the scale of it.
00:18:44.880 As German artillery observers had not had time to plot their locations, the French, the few, very few
00:18:50.640 French counter batteries that there were. French long-range guns thus blew up the regimental paymaster
00:18:56.320 of the 24th Infantry Regiment, complete with his cash box at Billy-sur-Manguiennes near the Bois de Wauffermont,
00:19:04.880 and another French salvo straddled the 5th Army's forward HQ at Witterville, just as Chief of Staff
00:19:12.080 von Klobbeldorf was reporting to Crown Prince Wilhelm. The Crown Prince and his entourage had come
00:19:18.000 forward to be closer to the action, but hastily withdrew to their permanent HQ at Stene, 15 miles
00:19:23.760 further north. On the other side of the line, in the Bois de Curese, a Captain Pujot, possibly an aviation
00:19:29.840 officer on a fact-finding mission for General Ferdinand Foch at the Groupe Mont d'Armie du Nord,
00:19:35.120 had driven up to observe the German front lines accompanied by a staff officer from 30 Corps
00:19:40.000 headquarters. They too departed swiftly when the barrage began to fall, abandoning a planned visit
00:19:45.120 to Lieutenant Colonel Drillon in the process. This Lieutenant Colonel Drillon will come up in a
00:19:49.920 moment. I'll tell you all about him because he's interesting and important, and all the history is
00:19:54.000 talk about old Drillon. But for a moment, I'll continue this. Similarly, the beginning of the
00:19:59.040 German shelling almost caught General Etienne-André Bapt, commander of the 72nd Division of Infantry
00:20:06.240 Reserve, who was riding up to inspect frontline positions near Brabant, six miles north of his
00:20:11.200 headquarters at Brasser-Muse. His early morning ride up the east bank of the Muse ended two miles short of
00:20:17.040 its objective when the curtain of fire descended as he reached Semongo, coincidentally the headquarters of the
00:20:23.280 351st Regiment of Infantry. The shelling fell most heavily on the German's chosen attack sector,
00:20:29.280 held by 30 Corps, French 30 Corps, and especially the seven-mile stretch of front line running east
00:20:34.720 from the River Meuse, occupied by General Bapt's 72nd Division of Infantry Reserve. Each German battery
00:20:40.880 had been assigned a specific section of the front line, and the guns worked relentlessly back and
00:20:45.200 forth across it like a giant invisible plough at a rate of up to 40 shells per minute, eradicating trenches,
00:20:52.240 collapsing dugouts and shelters, demolishing concrete bunkers, and cutting telephone lines.
00:20:57.600 One Brigade Headquarters from the 51st Division of Infantry Reserve was obliged to set up a relay of
00:21:03.360 messengers spaced at 300-yard intervals to maintain contact with its subunits, with all the risks that
00:21:09.200 that entailed. A liaison officer from the 161st Regiment Infantry, attached to the 51st Division of Infantry
00:21:15.680 Reserve, described the resultant carnage in the Bois de Hebois on the north-east shoulder of the
00:21:21.360 salient. And this is what an eyewitness said, a liaison officer who was there. He said,
00:21:27.120 The trees are cut down like wisps of straw. Some shells come crashing out of the smoke. The dust
00:21:32.800 produced by the upheaval of the earth creates a fog which prevents us from seeing very far. We have
00:21:38.640 to abandon our shelter and go to ground in a deep crater. We are surrounded by wounded and dying men
00:21:45.440 whom we are totally unable to help." End quote. So one thing to say that happens in World War One,
00:21:51.040 and again, it's a little bit of a broad trend that I'm talking about. It's not every single time what I'm
00:21:55.840 about to tell you happened, but as a broad trend, what happens in World War One is that each battle
00:22:00.960 is bigger and more extreme. It's not that there aren't smaller battles in between the big ones,
00:22:07.440 but broadly speaking, however long a bombardment lasted in 1914, they're bigger and longer in 1915,
00:22:14.960 and bigger and longer in 1916, and 1917, and then in 1918. So quite often you'll find that the record,
00:22:22.160 sort of the most shells fired in an opening barrage is that the new record gets set all the time. So
00:22:29.600 it's the same with Verdun. Never before had there been a barrage quite like this. They thought that
00:22:35.440 the big barrage at Champagne in 1915 was the most incredible thing, would never be paralleled ever
00:22:41.760 again. There's been nothing like it before and probably never will be again. Well, the battles of
00:22:46.240 1916 and 1917 and 1918 just keep raising the bar on that. So here at Verdun, this opening barrage that
00:22:54.640 the Germans do is unprecedented, right? They fire something like a million shells, which had just
00:23:00.240 never been done before, right? 1,200 big guns, heavy guns firing a million shells over the course of 12
00:23:07.440 hours or more in a relatively, onto a relatively small area, about seven miles, about seven mile
00:23:13.520 front, a million shells. How anyone survived, and they did, is remarkable. I mean later in a moment
00:23:18.880 we'll talk about that, how the Germans were surprised that there was still any Frenchmen alive there when
00:23:23.280 they did go to, when the infantry, German infantry, went to walk into those positions. They thought
00:23:28.960 certainly there'd be nothing left but, but body parts, if that. But there were quite a few Frenchmen
00:23:34.240 survived it, somehow, remarkably. Okay, I'll let Buckingham continue. He says,
00:23:38.640 at around midday the barrage paused, just stopped, just stopped, partly to trick the surviving defenders
00:23:44.640 into thinking that the ground attack was beginning, and thus draw them out of their cover, and partly
00:23:49.200 to allow the German artillery observers to assess the damage they had inflicted. We hope you enjoyed
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