The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - December 03, 2025


PREVIEW: Realpolitik #23 | Israel, Iran, Venezuela and Ukraine


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18 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of RealPolitik, we discuss the situation in Lebanon and Syria, Iran's influence in Lebanon, and the possibility of another war with Iran. Then we move all the way across the world to talk about Venezuela and Ukraine.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, and welcome to another episode of RealPolitik. I am your host, Firas Moadad.
00:00:09.820 Today, we have an exciting episode for you, I hope. We're going to be talking about Hezbollah
00:00:15.400 and Lebanon and Iran and the plans for another war with Iran. Then we're going to move all the
00:00:23.020 way across the world to talk a little bit about Venezuela, and we will be closing with Ukraine.
00:00:28.000 And the theme here is about the limits of American power and how much can the U.S. and its ally in
00:00:36.240 the Middle East, Israel, actually achieve, and how much can they achieve globally. So without
00:00:42.400 too much fluff and introduction, let's start off by talking about Hezbollah. If you listen to Israeli
00:00:48.940 media, they are constantly warning that another war with Hezbollah is going to break out. And
00:00:55.380 American envoys to Lebanon are pretty much repeating the same theme constantly, that either Hezbollah
00:01:01.820 is forced to fully disarm by the Lebanese state, which they know couldn't do something like that
00:01:08.260 because they can't physically do it, or the Israelis are going to launch another war. Now, this is a bit
00:01:15.940 misleading, shall we say, because we've reached a very strange position where the Israelis need Hezbollah
00:01:24.100 to be in Lebanon, but they don't need it to be too strong. And let me explain why. I wrote about it
00:01:31.280 here on my own blog, Modagio Politics, and explained the following points. Right now, because of the new
00:01:39.940 configuration of Syria, because Syria is run essentially by the successors of Al-Qaeda in
00:01:46.380 alliance with Turkey, the last thing that the Israelis need is for these groups in Syria to become so
00:01:55.380 strong as to take over Lebanon and play the game that was used by the Assad regime in Syria, which is
00:02:02.500 using Lebanon as a pressure point against Israel in order to cause trouble for the Israelis and keep
00:02:09.620 pressure on them over the Golan Heights. And this is especially the case, given that Israel has pretty
00:02:15.060 much expanded its presence in Syria significantly. So you see the dark blue line here, which is the
00:02:22.340 demarcation line from the 1973 war, and you see this extended area in blue that really threatens Damascus
00:02:32.580 directly. This is the city of Damascus here. And now the Syrians are finding that they have a big
00:02:38.820 problem with the Israelis, because the Israelis won't withdraw just to the pre-fall of Assad border,
00:02:46.260 let alone withdraw all the way out of the Golan Heights, which, as Trump told us, the Americans now
00:02:54.820 recognize as part of Israel because Miriam Adelson and her husband, late husband Sheldon, paid him a lot
00:03:01.460 of money in order to recognize it. So the Syrians are stuck, and they've started some militant operations
00:03:08.420 against Israel. This happened actually just yesterday, and it's reported here by Amit Shai
00:03:17.940 Shikli, an Israeli security correspondent. Oh, sorry, he's the Israeli minister. Sorry, I got confused
00:03:24.180 here. And the Israeli official position is that they are now combating al-Qaeda in Syria, which is
00:03:33.380 planning on attacking Israel. Okay, interesting. But the reality is that if it is al-Qaeda that is in
00:03:41.700 control of Syria, then you really don't want them in control of Lebanon. And if Hezbollah is there in
00:03:49.460 Lebanon, then that kind of makes sure that the Sunni influence in Syria doesn't extend into Lebanon,
00:03:57.140 and that Turkey doesn't end up being on the Israeli border. Because remember, as things currently stand
00:04:03.620 in the Middle East, as Trump has said, it's really the Turks who have taken over Syria. And northern
00:04:10.740 Syria is now using the Turkish leader as a currency. Turkey is Syria's main economic lung, the main source
00:04:20.260 of any kind of goods in Syria. Ideologically, the groups that are in control of Syria are fully
00:04:27.300 aligned with Turkey and with Erdogan and his pan-Islamist project. So the Israelis find themselves
00:04:32.660 in this very, very strange position, where Hezbollah is a threat because it's an ally of Iran,
00:04:39.380 and Syria is a threat because it's an ally of Turkey. And the best thing that can happen for the
00:04:46.500 Israelis is more or less chaos in the region and keeping different parts of Syria and Lebanon under
00:04:53.700 the control of different powers and different entities. Because the alternative would be,
00:04:58.500 essentially, Turkey consolidating over both Syria and Lebanon and becoming a major threat to Israeli
00:05:05.860 security. That's the real problem that they're facing. So they're making all of this noise constantly
00:05:11.380 about wanting to attack Hezbollah again. Why? Because Hezbollah acts as a deterrent, in a sense,
00:05:18.420 a much weakened deterrent because of all of the casualties that it took during the last fight with
00:05:24.180 Israel. But it still has the ability to hurt Israel to some extent if the Israelis attack Iran again.
00:05:32.740 And the big fear of the Israelis is that Iran would get a nuclear weapon. And if it got a nuclear
00:05:39.780 weapon, then the Israelis cannot attack Iran because there would be nuclear deterrence in operation,
00:05:47.220 and then the Iranians would be free to arm Hezbollah or the Iraqis or the Houthis as much as they want.
00:05:55.460 So we see this weird situation now where the Israelis hate Hezbollah but also need it.
00:06:02.100 And this is a security dilemma that they're facing, meaning that they will probably attack Hezbollah
00:06:09.300 again, as they've been threatening to do, as American envoys, essentially speaking on behalf of Israel,
00:06:15.380 have been telling Lebanese officials endless times that an Israeli attack is happening unless they force
00:06:20.980 Hezbollah to disarm. But they don't want to actually destroy Hezbollah anymore. They needed to be in a
00:06:28.820 weakened state existing there as a kind of Baba Yaga, as a kind of ghoul, scary entity that allows
00:06:38.500 the Israelis to keep pressure on Lebanon through sanctions, through regular military strikes,
00:06:44.340 through attacks, etc. It keeps Lebanon from functioning, although Lebanon is dysfunctional by
00:06:49.780 its own very nature. It doesn't really need Israel for that. It keeps the Syrians from consolidating.
00:06:55.780 This is why they're backing the Druze in Syria. This is why they're backing the Kurds. Let's have a
00:07:00.500 look at the map and see what we're talking about. This is why they are backing the Druze in this part
00:07:07.300 of Syria here in the south near the border with Jordan and not far from the border with Israel.
00:07:14.500 This is why the Americans are backing the Kurds here in order to basically keep Syria divided. This is the
00:07:21.060 territory that has the best agriculture and most of the oil. So if the Kurds control it, the Syrians
00:07:27.620 don't have enough money to rebuild. And so what the Israelis are trying to do is to sort of maintain a
00:07:34.340 state of chaos and to prevent the Turks from actually consolidating and capitalizing on the fact that
00:07:42.100 Damascus is ruled by their ideological ally. So this is the state of play here in Lebanon briefly.
00:07:51.380 Which brings us to Iran. Again, the reason that the Israelis have a problem with Hezbollah is because
00:07:57.380 its ideology dictates that there be war with Israel at some point in the future.
00:08:07.220 The two, under this ideology, cannot work together. But I've argued in the past on my blog on
00:08:14.580 Manageo politics that they are natural allies. And this is something that the Shah saw before the
00:08:20.980 Islamic revolution in Iran before 1979, where his calculus was, yes, the Iranian public hates Israel
00:08:30.500 because of the Islamic sentiment in the country. But we need to work with Israel because Israel is
00:08:36.500 an ally against the Arabs and against Arab nationalism. Arab nationalism would mean that Ahvaaz,
00:08:43.780 the province in the south of Iran, which is incredibly oil rich, this part of the country here, where you
00:08:51.780 have places like the Habadan refinery and a bunch of oil fields and which lead to a small island called
00:08:59.140 Khadig from which Iran exports its oil. These parts of Iran, under an Arab nationalist movement, would go to
00:09:06.900 the Arabs. So the Shah found Iran useful. And now with the rise of Turkey, there is a
00:09:13.700 possibility that the Iranians might again find Israel useful, but not under this ideology. And so what
00:09:20.900 the Israelis are saying in their own media is that another round with Iran is more or less inevitable.
00:09:28.980 They describe it as only a matter of time, according to the New York Times. And this message is also
00:09:35.940 getting repeated by Israeli media and by Israeli security analysts who are saying that
00:09:42.100 that the war isn't over and that what's happening with Iran is a move to a different model where
00:09:49.540 every once in a while there's an exchange of blows between the two sides and it doesn't get resolved
00:09:54.980 and it won't get resolved until there is regime change in Iran. You have to remember, getting regime change
00:10:01.380 in Iran has been a long-standing objective for the Israelis from the 80s really. The US backed Saddam Hussein
00:10:12.820 against the Iranians in the eight-year war from 1980 to 1988 between Iran and Iraq. They've been trying to
00:10:20.900 get rid of this regime for some time. And the reason they want to get rid of it is because of its position
00:10:26.580 on Israel, essentially. So this is continuing. And what's being said now is that the strikes against
00:10:35.140 Iran in June 2025, just six months ago, didn't really achieve very much in destroying the Iranian nuclear
00:10:43.620 program. If you remember when the strikes, just before the strikes happened, a bunch of large Iranian
00:10:51.060 trucks showed up to the Furdou nuclear facility, which was about to be hit, and took something.
00:10:59.700 The assessment is that this was enriched uranium that was carried from the site to somewhere else
00:11:08.260 and hidden away in Iran. And so the actual enriched uranium, which the Iranians would need
00:11:14.180 to make a bomb, still exists. Others argue that the strikes weren't that damaging and that there are
00:11:21.780 other facilities where the Iranians could be enriching uranium. And so what we see here is that the Iran
00:11:30.100 issue hasn't been solved yet, as far as the Americans and the Israelis are concerned. The negotiations
00:11:37.220 between the U.S. and Israel aren't really getting anywhere between the Americans and Iran aren't
00:11:45.860 really getting anywhere. The Iranians are in no mood to compromise because the last time they negotiated
00:11:51.700 with the Americans, the Israelis went ahead and launched a military operation. And they took advantage
00:11:58.580 of the fact that the Iranians were lulled into a sense of security and decided to just try to decapitate
00:12:05.780 the Iranian leadership, again, in the hope that this would lead to the overthrow of the regime,
00:12:11.220 and try to destroy some of Iran's most important military facilities. They had some serious successes,
00:12:17.620 they had some serious successes, but it didn't conclude the conflict. I see a question here,
00:12:26.100 isn't that where Arabistan is? Yes, the part where Iran's oil comes from is referred to as
00:12:35.300 Arabistan or Khuzistan or whatever you want to call it, or Ahvaz. And that is an area that is dominated by
00:12:43.300 the Arabs. And it's a big problem for the Iranians, because that is where their oil is. So going back
00:12:50.020 to this, the war isn't resolved. And the Iranians are doing everything that they can to build up their
00:13:00.420 military capabilities. There are reports that they've been buying Chinese air defense systems,
00:13:06.180 the HQ-9s. We saw these be quite effective when in the hands of the Pakistanis against Indian jets.
00:13:16.580 We don't know how they would perform against Israeli F-35s, possibly considerably worse. And the Iranians
00:13:23.620 have been hesitant to build up too much dependency in their air defense systems because they understand
00:13:30.260 that this will come with further political dependencies. But right now they really don't
00:13:36.740 have much of a choice. So there's talk about buying Russian jets, Sukhoi Su-35s. There's talk about
00:13:45.940 buying the HQ-9s. There's talk about buying S-400s, basically doing everything that they can to expand
00:13:54.580 their military capabilities in order to be able to deter the Israelis more effectively, in order to be
00:14:02.580 able to prevent another attack by Israel, and also quite importantly, in order to deter the Turks.
00:14:09.620 Because the Iranians have a huge problem with Turkey, including over Iraq, including over Syria,
00:14:16.100 and including over Lebanon. So this is something of a three-way fight. And the Israelis, so far,
00:14:22.660 don't feel the need to make any alliances with any other groups. And the Turks and the Iranians really
00:14:28.740 don't want to align with Israel either. So it's a bit of a free-for-all. So you see the Iranians
00:14:35.060 engaging in this military buildup, and you also see the Israelis trying to find a solution to the
00:14:42.340 problem of drones and missiles that were used quite effectively by both Iran and Hezbollah.
00:14:50.820 Now they are going to deploy something called the Iron Beam, as opposed to the Iron Dome, which is a laser
00:14:58.420 defense system that is supposed to be very effective in intercepting all kinds of
00:15:06.580 ordinance. Although I don't think it will have any impact on the hypersonic missiles that the
00:15:12.500 Iranians can use. And it seems that the Iranians are working to build up their capabilities to be able
00:15:18.260 to fire up to 2,000 missiles at the same time. Now, when you deploy this many missile launchers,
00:15:25.060 it creates its own problem. Because then they can be detected from the air and attacked and intercepted
00:15:31.780 as you are staging your big dramatic attack. So it's not that easy to do.
00:15:40.020 But the theme of all of this really is that the Israelis haven't solved their problems in the region
00:15:47.860 despite two continuous years of war. Hamas is still operational in Gaza. That hasn't changed.
00:15:56.580 Hezbollah is weakened but still operational in Lebanon. That hasn't changed. It seems to be rearming
00:16:04.340 and it seems to be rebuilding some of its capabilities, but it doesn't have a solution to
00:16:09.780 the Israeli intelligence penetration that it's suffering from. To the extent that just last week
00:16:15.460 the Israelis killed essentially its military chief of staff, the most important military guy in
00:16:22.020 Hezbollah, Abu Ali Tabataba'i, was whacked by the Israelis in an apartment in Beirut. And it seems that
00:16:31.620 Hezbollah knew that this location had been compromised. But for some reason this guy went to that location again.
00:16:40.740 And then he got killed. Meaning that the Israelis have still live intelligence on the movements of
00:16:49.380 senior Hezbollah leaders and they can still take them out when they want. So this means that if a war
00:16:56.660 happens, it won't be because Hezbollah wants one. It will be because the Israelis have decided that
00:17:02.740 Hezbollah still needs to be weakened further. And the question is, do the Americans allow them to do this?
00:17:08.340 And the other question is, what are the second order consequences? Like if the Israelis hammer Hezbollah
00:17:14.740 too much, does that create an opening for the Syrians and therefore create for the Israelis an even
00:17:20.580 bigger problem? Which is what the Israelis are saying. They're saying that the new government in
00:17:26.500 Damascus is now organizing resistance against them. They've reverted to calling Ahmad al-Shara,
00:17:34.020 the new president of Syria, Abu Muhammad al-Jolani, to go back to his name from his Islamic State
00:17:40.420 al-Qaeda days. And they're stuck confronting Israel because Israel is invading their territory and trying
00:17:51.460 to expand further in their territory. So there's no solution there. There's a choice of different wars.
00:17:58.180 So this is the picture here in the Middle East. And to summarize, we're still possibly on the
00:18:08.420 precipice of another war between Israel and Hezbollah and Israel and Iran because the last rounds haven't
00:18:16.100 really created new political realities that would bring about peace. And I would argue that the Israelis
00:18:23.940 don't want peace, either with Syria or with Lebanon, because they benefit more from keeping both
00:18:30.180 countries in a state of chaos. If you enjoyed this piece of premium content from the Lotus Eaters,
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