The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Battle of Great Yarmouth

00:00:00.160 Hello folks and welcome back to another one of our political chats. This time we're going to be talking about everyone's favourite and most pressing topic, the local elections.

00:00:08.880 Oh yes.

00:00:09.520 No one cares about local elections, but the political class are really invested in local elections because people view it as a kind of bellwether.

00:00:17.240 Well this one kind of matters because they're all disintegrating, but as we've seen from our polls over the past few weeks, or in fact all of the shows that we've done, you can tell that reform is in first place, but after that it's just pure guesswork.

00:00:29.640 Well, the political commentariats are not wrong in that there is a kind of bellwether effect in this.

00:00:37.260 And this is what we will be looking at.

00:00:39.380 So these are the local councils that are going to be having elections.

00:00:44.740 For some reason in England, it's not national.

00:00:47.300 It's just not done all at once.

00:00:49.060 It's a rotating thing.

00:00:51.120 So some councils have it, but the rest will have it in a different year.

00:00:54.760 I don't know why.

00:00:56.520 It's just no one cares about local elections.

00:00:58.440 i'm i literally no one cares i can see my areas and it's swindon in it swindon is in it you can

00:01:03.300 see it there in the southwest and the northwest northeast of uh okay uh great yarmouth is also

00:01:08.560 in it uh for some reason doesn't seem to be picked up on this map but we'll get back to that later

00:01:14.160 anyway so as i said like literally no one votes in these in 2024 30 percent was the average to

00:01:21.180 vote to turn out yeah but an opinion poll is maybe 2 000 people sure this is going to be

00:01:28.280 hundreds of thousands of people so it's going to be better than any opinion poll it will still be

00:01:32.980 millions i mean it'll be about 10 million people who vote yes um because out of 30 million who

00:01:38.520 could possibly vote um but it just goes to show you that this is just not for some reason something

00:01:44.080 that the general public is particularly interested in which is weird because this is actually far

00:01:48.020 more proximal to them yes like this this is actually a lot more important to your life

00:01:53.900 and on a day-to-day basis who controls your local council will really matter so for example

00:01:59.560 let's take birmingham as an example of local councils that were captured by labor run into

00:02:05.640 the ground and bankrupted the city right well there was that yes rubbish piling up on the

00:02:10.980 streets rats infesting the city everyone going around turning tom swarbrick right wing right

00:02:16.480 there is actually a real issue when it comes to local councils and the way that things are done

00:02:21.780 and it would actually be better to have people who are actually good and responsible in those

00:02:26.780 local councils when you put it like that i see what you're saying i mean something like 80 to

00:02:30.140 90 percent of council budgets are pre-spoken for they're mandatory spending it's you must spend it

00:02:35.040 on adult social care and you must do this and you must do that but actually there is a lot of ruin

00:02:40.140 in the last 10 percent there is and it would be useful to have very good people around you anyway

00:02:46.940 so uh this is how things were in 2022 compared to what it looks like in 2026 as in the polling

00:02:56.660 so as you can see back in 2022 uh 40 percent of councillors were labor 34 percent were conservative

00:03:02.820 10 percent were lib dem uh six percent were greens and two percent were reform and of course things

00:03:08.000 have changed in fact we've got uh we've got a much uh more granulated uh one in the times here

00:03:15.840 so we can see that how the thing has shifted now this this is really interesting it is uh because

00:03:21.560 i didn't really notice how things had changed so if you go back to 2015 you've got about 60 or two

00:03:30.260 thirds of the uh council elections being labor and tory yes so you can see the complete hegemony of

00:03:37.100 the uniparty you can see that's the politics we're used to which is a two and a half party system

00:03:40.760 it's the tories it's labor and it's a little bit of lib dems and then just a smattering of other

00:03:45.980 things and that is the political environment we've all come up on it's the only political

00:03:50.320 environment the westminster pundits understand but i mean as i'm sure you're about to say if

00:03:55.180 you look at the bottom it's just all over the place upon the ascension of keir starmer that

00:04:00.520 completely collapsed when did he come in now was it it was 2024 2024 late 2024 but he got to work

00:04:08.860 quickly didn't he yeah he did because he had he had the southport riots look at if you were to take

00:04:15.800 the finest political minds of our generation put them in charge of the labor party and say

00:04:22.200 you need to destroy this party as quickly and as comprehensively as possible i doubt they could

00:04:28.860 have done a better job than kia starmer did but i don't think it's necessarily kia starmer's fault

00:04:33.140 because as you see the conservative vote also collapsed well again so it's it's it's actually

00:04:38.660 the unit i think what actually happened was that the the moment was pregnant with the possibility

00:04:44.080 of something else and farage just happened to be the right person at the right time to capture that

00:04:50.400 wind in his sails uh so i mean the union party in 2025 was getting 35 and farage himself was

00:04:56.940 is getting 30 so you can see there's a massive swing but as you can see the prediction is it's

00:05:01.540 gone down because farage has been losing losing his edge oh the greens yeah uh for for no matter

00:05:09.540 what you think of polanski he's doing a good job of summoning the faithful this has been a breakout

00:05:14.800 year for them because they tottered around that sort of 10 something percent for a long time

00:05:19.360 between between 10 and 13 percent and then this year they've really gone for it haven't they yeah

00:05:26.420 and you can't deny that there have been effective campaigners um what what happens when they're in

00:05:32.620 charge is going to be a different kettle of fish and camps probably camps for us well definitely

00:05:37.360 camps for us but also just collapse right yeah money is going to be wasted on ridiculous things

00:05:42.840 things are going to get far worse far quick more quickly and if you're an accelerationist

00:05:47.920 maybe you're not against that well i mean i'll tell that to my wife and kids as we're being

00:05:51.540 rounded off into the camp i'll say look don't worry too much because the the camp guards won't

00:05:56.200 be getting paid for very long and we can probably just walk out in a few weeks and hopefully we 0.61

00:06:01.260 won't find a family of libyans in our house when we get back yeah another thing i thought was 0.99

00:06:06.760 interesting on this was the collapse of ukip actually um as you can see in 2015 they had 13

00:06:11.840 percent then 2016 12 and 2017 they had what about five six percent and then 2018 they collapsed

00:06:18.580 entirely uh this is a bit self-serving i point this out because i stood for ukip in 2019 so they

00:06:25.640 were pretty much a dead party by then at least yeah you still get a lot of flack for it but i

00:06:30.400 know yeah but i wasn't the person who killed the party they'd already died uh before that but

00:06:35.580 anyway when did they chuck gerald batten out because that was when i was like yeah i've had

00:06:38.720 enough uh i think it was in 2020 2021 okay in fact i think it's 2020 they chucked him out uh

00:06:44.740 yeah and that's when i was like okay i couldn't be bothered with them after that because the thing

00:06:48.300 is gerald batten had a kind of proto rupert lowe energy about him as then he was like look i don't

00:06:53.040 care and i'm standing on the point that is correct yes and that's what we've been needing for a long

00:06:57.020 time it's someone who's just like i don't care about your answers and that's why zach polanski

00:07:00.800 is doing so well by the way oh he doesn't care either exactly he doesn't care either he just

00:07:05.180 says no that's the sort of thing they would say vote for us join our party vote for us and look

00:07:10.220 they're doing great well i mean not only does he not care about what his opponents say about him

00:07:14.480 he doesn't care about the facts of reality either which makes him doubly effective with young

00:07:18.740 leftists because he he can just say look i've imagined a utopia yes wouldn't that be nice and

00:07:23.980 all the young left is like yeah that would be nice let's vote for that and you don't need to

00:07:28.400 listen to those people who are being critical of me no so every historical example ever for all of

00:07:34.740 the things that he's advocating completely correct but the the connection between politics and

00:07:39.880 reality is actually not what's important there right what's important is the perception of people

00:07:45.620 and what zach polanski that's what he's manipulating is people's perceptions about

00:07:50.520 the things that might happen and this is why you you appealing to the khmer rouge or whoever

00:07:56.200 makes no effect on them whatsoever as far as they're concerned that's communism as it interacts

00:08:02.580 with reality they're talking about communism as it interacts with their utopian fantasy

00:08:06.780 so the reality has just got no connection to what they believe and zach polanski is literally

00:08:12.420 leveraging this saying don't worry about what they say we don't care we're going towards the utopia

00:08:16.740 it makes it a bit difficult to argue against because you're you're sat there giving you know

00:08:20.680 how the world actually works reality historical examples all that kind of stuff and they're like

00:08:25.820 yes but i can imagine the perfect world yes and i want it yes and you're standing in the way of

00:08:31.880 me getting my perfect world you meanie yeah that's exactly what they think um and exactly why i don't

00:08:39.640 think there's anything actually to worry about with the greens because that might be so apart

00:08:44.680 from camps and i don't think you can get to a point where they they put us in camps just because

00:08:50.480 i think that even even if a quarter of the population is like yeah i'm a delusional lunatic

00:08:55.260 and i think that i can just leap off this cliff and if i believe hard enough i can fly 0.90

00:08:59.880 i think the remaining three quarters are gonna be like okay this guy's a delusional lunatic

00:09:04.080 who thinks he can fly if he jumps off a cliff i mean hopefully you're right it's not impossible

00:09:08.260 to imagine a scenario where the greens are the largest party on the left and do a coalition

00:09:13.780 with labor and the lib dems or something i mean i suppose that that will hold them back a bit

00:09:18.260 but i i imagine ed davy for all of his faults is probably not up for death camps for right-wingers

00:09:26.140 well i don't think they'll lead with that policy they'll all of the other nonsense but it will get

00:09:32.260 you there yeah so another another point that they the time's making this is basically look

00:09:36.880 Labour have lost London.

00:09:38.180 I can't remember where.

00:09:38.740 There we are.

00:09:39.200 Labour are losing London.

00:09:40.300 Labour are losing London.

00:09:41.300 Which is remarkable.

00:09:42.640 But they've lost Wales as well, not just in the locals.

00:09:45.160 When is the next mayoral election for London? 1.00

00:09:47.200 Because that should be going to a Greek next, shouldn't it? 1.00

00:09:49.160 I think it's in a couple of years. 1.00

00:09:50.980 I think Sadiq Khan is going to sit there for a long time.

00:09:53.700 But the Greens are doing very well in the cities, 1.00

00:09:55.300 because, of course, that's where idiotic leftists and immigrants live. 1.00

00:09:59.420 And reform have been taking over Labour in the north 1.00

00:10:03.880 and the Conservatives in the southern shires.

00:10:06.120 but they've caught up to where we are yeah reform's lead is shrinking that is true and so all of this

00:10:14.220 is just numbers in flux right so what does it actually map out to in the number of councillors

00:10:20.900 that are actually won yeah because there are something like four and a half thousand councillors

00:10:25.300 that can be the you know council seats that can be won and here's a more in common series of

00:10:31.520 estimates right now the lower estimates they've got reform on 1,273 greens on gains gains yeah

00:10:39.660 1,273 greens gaining 573 lib dems 148 labor losing 1,867 the conservatives losing nearly

00:10:48.300 that seems fair that doesn't seem like an unsurprising result no but that would that

00:10:52.560 would still be reform underperforming right okay right so uh reform um middle expert the middle

00:10:59.460 estimate they've got here reform are hoping to win over 2 000 seats like two and a half thousand

00:11:04.000 seats something like that but it doesn't look like they're going to right and this again is a measure

00:11:09.400 of it being a bellwether for how is the public mood on this party so as you can see the sort of

00:11:14.540 middling estimate is reform getting 1 400 seats green getting nearly 1 000 seats and labor and

00:11:20.540 conservative is still getting trashed but look at the high estimate they're using there greens on

00:11:25.440 1700 and reform on 1600 now if gorton and dentist yes i was just thinking that is anything to go by

00:11:34.940 reform actually have been running quite negative campaigns like what's actually the positive

00:11:41.140 message of reform um you're gonna have to help me on that one i actually don't know okay i don't know

00:11:50.400 Actually, Farage has looked kind of like a beaten, 1.00

00:11:55.160 henpecked housewife or something recently.

00:11:57.960 Kind of lacking all the colour in his face

00:12:00.040 and he hasn't had his swagger recently.

00:12:03.500 No, I mean, I see what you mean.

00:12:04.940 I mean, every time I see Zach Polanski on the TV,

00:12:07.580 he's beaming, he's so happy,

00:12:09.500 he's enjoying himself thoroughly,

00:12:11.220 promoting his utopian vision.

00:12:13.000 He's out doing some sort of acid house rave or something.

00:12:16.120 Yeah, something like that, something weird 1.00

00:12:17.400 or gay dancing on the stage or whatever it is. 1.00

00:12:19.500 but he's incredibly happy about all of it and Hannah Spencer wins and she does her dance dressed 0.83

00:12:24.320 as a CBP presenter but every time I see the form I just see them on the back foot I mean Farage

00:12:31.960 doing his wrong wrong wrong thing barking at a reporter or arguing but it's all incredibly

00:12:37.960 defensive yes very negative yes and like I say he seems kind of henpecked by the media because he

00:12:44.600 didn't take the strong move straight out of the gate when he was on 30% he just said look don't

00:12:48.800 care about what the media says you're the enemy as far as i'm concerned just like zach polanski

00:12:52.380 does by the way just like trump did you should have declared them the enemy and not given him

00:12:56.220 any of his time he's already on 30 well that would have been a clever strategy because the

00:13:01.040 media are largely his enemy however he came up with something even better than that what he came

00:13:06.020 up with is he's going to pander to the media who don't like him and he's then going to turn around

00:13:10.600 to the online right who do like him and he's going to try and purge them make it perfectly clear that

00:13:15.820 they are his enemy and that he is going to give them absolutely nothing of what they want that

00:13:21.140 that is precisely what he did yes and how's it working out for him i mean we can see that's not

00:13:27.360 the best strategy ever again like it like when when you've got to this point where you've got uh

00:13:33.480 30 percent uh it back in october 2025 right that that should have been the time when farah should

00:13:40.220 have just gone hard on basically everything right he should have said no the media are the enemy

00:13:44.940 we are going to do all of the things that you are worried that i'm going to do i am you know

00:13:49.720 like with the simpsons thing press the button and it's like yes evil farage comes out you know we're

00:13:54.220 gonna just fix all of that he should have done what basically rupert lowe is doing now right

00:13:57.620 what what did he think that i mean this this bit along here when he's going up like that

00:14:01.940 what did he think those people thought they were getting well that that that's me being really kind

00:14:07.600 and and uh moderate with the media and them not writing hit piece after no they were calling you

00:14:12.580 a fascist the whole time they were calling you a nazi they literally this was literally where they

00:14:17.560 were saying like look nigel farage was a nazi in school yes where he was constantly like telling 0.97

00:14:22.000 that jewish kid he was going to send to a gas chamber or something and that made his polls go

00:14:25.840 up yes but then he then he decided i can't take any risks what i need to do is arrive at the next 0.64

00:14:31.960 election by appealing to as many of my enemies as possible yes and that disavowing all of my allies

00:14:38.940 yeah and that then started going down yes that's that is precisely what he did and that was

00:14:43.980 precisely the wrong strategy once you've got to the lead in the polls the media can't not cover

00:14:49.920 you right they always cover you unfairly anyway they've done it for your entire career stop trying

00:14:55.780 to placate them and just literally like trump use judo flip them with their own strength so yeah no

00:15:01.660 here's the here's the headline farage can deport every single person in britain or something right

00:15:07.280 and so the country will be completely cleared out and it'll be oh my god friday's going to

00:15:11.700 put everyone in britain and those people who want that which is the majority of the population

00:15:15.580 who wants lower immigration and for millions of these immigrants to go home will hear that and go 0.56

00:15:20.380 brilliant finally trump used to do that so well build a wall make mexico pay for it it's on all

00:15:26.120 the headlines he used to say something slightly ambiguous that could easily be misinterpreted but

00:15:31.960 at its core was something where it was like yeah i like that yeah and then he used to let the media

00:15:37.460 come out with the most hysterical representation of it possible which basically just dismissed

00:15:42.300 their arguments in their own making yes while at the same time communicating to the low salience

00:15:47.140 voters it's like oh well yeah i like that and all the other stuff he did he allowed the media to get

00:15:51.900 trapped in the noise yes but the signal always came through i'm against immigration that's it

00:15:56.940 i'm a nativist i'm in favor of the average american you know that was the signal always

00:16:01.340 came through and farage has failed to understand this strategy and so he's been under a lot of

00:16:06.940 pressure from the right recently sorry what what what what reform says it will deport up to 400,000

00:16:14.060 asylum seekers so that sounds like mass deportations nigel the thing that he told us was literally

00:16:20.280 impossible the thing that bo literally got kicked out of the party for yes right sorry you have 0.99

00:16:25.420 already disavowed all of this nigel what are you doing oh you're going to create pop-up detention 0.91

00:16:30.320 centers what remigration centers but this is hardline right wing theorizing on twitter that 0.98

00:16:37.260 they're popping out now and the thing is you know he's not because the moment the moment he creates

00:16:43.220 the first pop-up detention center the left are going to protest it they're going to put memes

00:16:47.420 on twitter of this of this detention center with with swastikas on it and he's going to back down

00:16:52.560 immediately like he always has every single time and if back in october 2025 he'd just just taken

00:16:59.820 the leap then and just made it basically inoculated himself against media smears so yeah yeah i'm the 0.87

00:17:07.560 right-wing party you're terrible and everyone hates you and everyone can tell you're terrible

00:17:10.980 he would have been able to do basically anything say anything he wanted and none of it would have 0.94

00:17:15.180 mattered in the same way that it did with trump but instead he was sitting down with steve edgington

00:17:19.540 and saying it's impossible to deport people and the tories will be to my right by the time of the

00:17:24.120 next election he pacifically positioned himself to the left of the mass immigration tory party

00:17:30.560 it's so bizarre isn't it and then he brings in the mass immigration tories into his own party

00:17:35.460 and wonders why everything's going south uh i mean you know come out and say like you know

00:17:40.280 he posted this just the other day just listen to this you say migrants in hotels should be deported

00:17:46.740 where should they be deported to if their country isn't safe or if another country won't accept

00:17:52.560 I'm sorry, I've had enough of this. 1.00

00:17:54.100 If you come from Afghanistan, you go back to Afghanistan.

00:17:57.700 Robert Jenrick doesn't believe you.

00:18:01.800 Literally, your second-in-command is the guy who's like, 1.00

00:18:03.720 no, we need to bring in the Afghanis. 1.00

00:18:05.100 We have an obligation to this.

00:18:07.940 Only shortly before Robert Jenrick joined his party,

00:18:11.460 he was writing articles saying,

00:18:12.780 I'm proud that I brought in, well, 24,000 nominally Afghans,

00:18:16.900 but they all get to bring families.

00:18:18.080 So it's only 180,000 Afghans. 1.00

00:18:19.820 He says, I'm proud of this. 1.00

00:18:21.040 Exactly.

00:18:22.140 Exactly. 0.64

00:18:22.560 and so nigel is signaling as a nativist because of the pressure that i think is coming from his

00:18:28.000 right yes and you see this in their social media game as well what this is a weird exchange isn't

00:18:32.880 it um so basil here has been like reform announced they will only deport five years of illegal

00:18:38.400 migrants weak source again from reform and reform the official party uh platform on twitter has

00:18:45.280 retweeted again well this is fake news as per nigel forage's tweet our announcement is on top

00:18:49.040 of the 600 000 illegals were already deport okay so now you've realized that you need to get into

00:18:55.100 the muck with the online right because before you were just like we don't need you we have the

00:19:01.560 mainstream media yes you are pointless to us out you go and after the polls start dipping suddenly

00:19:08.700 they're oh no no we need to go and actually yes stitch this up and make sure that people realize

00:19:13.340 that we're not actually bleeding from our right flank here right we have to actually start fending

00:19:17.400 off the attacks from the right because it's become apparent that there is teeth in them they they

00:19:23.060 have something that stings that is actually having an effect so now like i said they're getting down

00:19:27.940 in the muck with us and having an online wrestling match with us it's like okay well how do you think

00:19:32.020 that's going like that's that's all we've got it's literally our speciality being down in the muck on

00:19:39.960 twitter with us it's what we do basil just gave it to him right basil i mean look just you know

00:19:49.080 everyone like just you've said it's important impossible you know this you're not going to be

00:19:53.440 deporting the women and children as well you know that this is all the problem blah blah blah we

00:19:57.060 said he said he wouldn't report the women and children as well didn't he yeah yeah and he's

00:20:00.860 just like the truth is i mean he's just absolutely ruining them and of course he's got the clips to

00:20:04.680 show it yeah so it's a rhetorical it's a political impossibility you know all of that and then him

00:20:10.420 i was very very clear yesterday in what i said that the deportation of illegal immigrants we

00:20:17.180 were not even discussing women and children at this stage there were so many illegal males in

00:20:21.380 just basil has all the receipts obviously and so they're just getting ruined in their own replies

00:20:28.660 completely ruined because this is just not the place for you right you can't you can't

00:20:34.300 maintain two positions simultaneously well it's not even simultaneously the position that he said

00:20:40.080 when he thought that he was untouchable that's probably the position he believes yeah i think

00:20:45.420 so which is we're not going to do deportations and we are most certainly not going to deport 0.99

00:20:49.920 even the illegal women and children because that's just mean you wouldn't do that a woman

00:20:53.860 a woman at sky news might get you know upset and they're going to write some yes strong and

00:20:58.260 strongly worded opinion pieces but now he's trying to claim the complete opposite when he

00:21:03.140 is under pressure it's like well yeah i don't believe you yeah but it's interesting how they

00:21:08.000 felt the the pinch and now they're turning on basil or whoever else it is right they can they

00:21:13.320 can they can tell this is an acknowledgement that we are a real and present danger to them and they

00:21:18.520 know it right yeah so anyway there is going to be a farage wave everyone knows there's a farage wave 0.97

00:21:24.520 because of course they're his candidates like a bunch of these will probably be from afghan 0.91

00:21:29.520 afghanistan like sorry nigel what what it's just not persuasive to us to think that you're like

00:21:37.140 yeah yeah no if you come from afghanistan you're going back to afghanistan i mean i'd be totally

00:21:41.860 up for that if i believed it i think you're going to put them in position of power well i mean that

00:21:47.000 is exactly what you're trying to do with these elections yes he's just constantly non-stop

00:21:51.540 putting up foreigners as canada and i just don't mean not not people are like born in britain but

00:21:57.260 not whites i mean people are just not born in britain like this should be illegal he should be

00:22:02.380 campaigning literal boris wavers in some case in some case illegal migrants yeah there's that guy

00:22:06.880 i think it's that guy in portsmouth who's an illegal migrant was there was that guy an illegal

00:22:10.480 was he right yeah i think i think they gave him indefinite leave to remain in but he arrived as

00:22:15.580 an illegal it's like okay well yeah i think he can be a candidate yeah and then like you've got

00:22:18.800 women like this i mean i'm sure she's a lovely woman but i just can't understand what she's

00:22:22.400 Hi, my name is Bassey Williams. I am one of the three reform candidates for Hazelbury Ward.

00:22:30.840 Please, on May the 7th, on election day, remember to vote for all the reform candidates, three of us, votes.

00:22:40.980 I followed as far as Hi, I am.

00:22:43.300 Yeah, I mean, I don't know, where was it? Hazelbury Ward, right, okay.

00:22:47.660 The point is, she's still got an insanely thick, like, Nigerian accent or whatever.

00:22:51.840 And this is what Farage has taken over all of the patriots on the right.

00:22:58.660 And now he's scrapping online with all the patriots in defence of people who are literal foreigners that he's promising to deport.

00:23:08.040 I mean, just...

00:23:10.780 18 months ago, he could have come on this show, we would have had him on for the podcast,

00:23:15.160 and he could have put an appeal out, and amongst our audience, he could have got enough candidates.

00:23:20.300 Thousands.

00:23:20.580 yeah but instead he told us to do one he constantly attacked us and as a response

00:23:27.020 as a result he can't get candidates so he's basically taking anyone who's just a bit bored

00:23:31.360 uh yeah i mean i don't think these people are here for the long term and i think that a lot

00:23:37.400 of them are doing it um because it's a way of getting money frankly yeah because yeah

00:23:42.760 councillors get what is it 12 14 16 grand a year it's different depending i mean up to 26 i think

00:23:48.600 but also what it does is it gives you access to government funding right and if you're sending

00:23:55.300 money home and then maybe you're just going to go yourself it's like the student loan scam that's

00:24:00.800 currently going on where you get like i don't know god only knows how many immigrants come over they 0.95

00:24:05.500 can apply for student loans and if they just leave the country you'll never get that money back

00:24:09.140 so like it's it's a system that's completely wide open for exploitation i'm not saying this 0.67

00:24:15.880 particular woman is doing that but there are going to be lots of people who are doing that

00:24:19.940 and so what nigel farage's response to all of this is isn't to actually say okay no base patriots

00:24:27.000 i do need your help it's say no the base patriots are bad and are racist and they're currently

00:24:32.300 insulting my minority candidates i would add that the online abuse on x the online abuse on x that

00:24:41.660 our minority candidates are receiving is utterly appalling in every way and if it was happening to

00:24:47.080 any other candidates from more established parties in the sense of their age you would all be in

00:24:53.220 total uproar and i've not heard a single person comment on it it really really is bad and x is 0.94

00:25:00.820 now becoming x is now becoming a very unpleasant and very dangerous place yeah that's the nigel 0.84

00:25:07.800 that i'm used to attacking the online rights that sounds like something that zach polanski would 0.88

00:25:11.640 say i mean there's obviously there's no reason at all why a party that presents itself as being

00:25:17.960 a nationalist party should you know be fielding people who are from this nation i mean you know

00:25:23.340 clearly i mean what what are we all thinking i mean i i can't explain like this is the ed

00:25:30.300 davy position on twitter on the on x that's ed davy's opinion on x yes and it's minorities get

00:25:37.760 a lot of stick x is a dangerous place the online right bad thanks knowledge yes i mean whatever it

00:25:43.660 is is it's but millions of people well most of my my well my my grandparents are passed at this

00:25:50.360 point but you know if they were around they'd be using social media my parents are using social

00:25:54.500 media old people use even old people everybody is using social media not to mention all of the

00:26:00.660 young it's just that he doesn't understand it because he's a man who watches gb news and

00:26:05.980 probably a bit of bbc and itv and he reads the the broadsheet newspapers that that's his world

00:26:11.300 and he thinks he can just write off online but that is the people of britain and the fact that

00:26:17.140 they're now scrapping with basil and whoever else on their official feeds and frage is like yeah no

00:26:22.840 x is a terrible well it shows that actually it matters right there is a voice the authentic

00:26:28.280 voice of the british people is coming out in these platforms there's nothing fundamentally

00:26:31.720 different between x and the comment sections on those broad on those uh broadsheet newspapers

00:26:37.820 that he reads if you go to the comment section on their website it's all the same stuff as x

00:26:41.140 yeah it's just it's not curated through careerists he his world he has he has come to believe

00:26:48.620 that the the curated careerist channel of opinion that is get shaped and is allowed onto he thinks

00:26:56.640 that is british opinion no it's the british opinion is is the opinions that we all hold

00:27:01.840 social media just shows it and and and the more that he does this the more he recognizes is so

00:27:08.720 the more that the voters recognize that he is just not he's not going to give them anything they want

00:27:14.220 no but but also he's there subtly signaling when you say things like well this is dangerous

00:27:19.480 well if it's dangerous action needs to be taken what he's saying yeah it's keir starmer shouldn't

00:27:24.840 you be shouldn't you be doing something about this yeah why don't you crack down free speech

00:27:28.000 a bit more i mean toys did it why can't you do it and elon has not been nigel farage's best

00:27:32.920 biggest fan recently well he was he was until he met him and he was nigel farage isn't the guy

00:27:39.220 yes and it turns out he's right uh so yeah nigel farage is essentially folding himself back in

00:27:45.100 to the mainstream here now is that like it is i mean you can you can see in the puff pieces that

00:27:52.580 he's getting inside the times here isn't that remarkable like a big long puff piece in the

00:27:58.600 times where it's just you know oh look well no we accept nigel farage because he's all for the same

00:28:04.360 things look at that just how much would how much would you have to pay for the times to publish

00:28:09.640 propaganda like this in your favor they picked some really good photos from as well it's amazing 0.71

00:28:14.180 the next one is him going to be distributing 5 000 you know bushels of bread yeah just nigel

00:28:20.660 just looking dreamy in a in a cafe or something like that you know but these are these are like 0.56

00:28:25.760 it's it's completely oh this is an endorsement completely an endorsement right the the establishment

00:28:31.840 have realized nigel farage isn't the wide-eyed radical well it works sorry it works oh yeah

00:28:39.020 i mean he was going for this yeah yeah absolutely right uh so you can see him he's he's saying no

00:28:43.900 x is a problem i'm my official social media is a fighting with the online right and i've been

00:28:49.140 completely subsumed back into the mainstream so now rather than getting hostile media coverage

00:28:55.500 and leveraging that to my advantage now i'm getting positive media coverage and hoping that

00:29:00.900 the people that for decades have been propagandized by these very same media outlets yes will suddenly

00:29:07.120 switch over and go no i actually i thought that farage guy was all right or after after all when

00:29:11.780 they were calling him a nazi when they're saying he's a child fascist when they were calling him

00:29:15.660 all sorts of things and over brexit and all the things i've been trained to hate him for maybe i

00:29:20.640 can just flip then i'd have to look it up but i'm pretty sure that more british people are on x than

00:29:27.240 are reading british newspapers at this point and if i'm it and if i'm on any doubt about that i have

00:29:33.420 no doubt whatsoever when it comes to facebook oh definitely facebook yeah facebook isn't like uh

00:29:38.680 an explicitly political platform like x x is just basically a political platform yeah but there's a

00:29:43.740 lot of political content on facebook so frage is attacking all of the patriots in defense of

00:29:49.600 his minorities he's getting his puppies write-ups in the times is it working is he getting those

00:29:55.640 people across well not really britain vote share by demographic group well retired they're going

00:30:04.060 conservative but 35 of them are going reform rural conservative but 30 something percent of

00:30:09.660 going reform no degree 30 something percent hindus 20 percent more of them going to conservatives

00:30:15.740 right women 25 percent uh young people definitely not blacks nine percent muslims five percent

00:30:25.420 didn't work did it night and he puts all of his energies into those last two categories

00:30:29.100 he puts a lot of energy into those look at all the muslims i have around me in my party

00:30:34.140 Look at all the foreigners I have running as my councillors.

00:30:38.180 Yes. 1.00

00:30:38.680 And they're just like, no thanks.

00:30:41.900 But, I mean, given his whole mission is to replace the Conservative Party,

00:30:44.320 you can see that he's, this is more like a photocopy of a photocopy.

00:30:48.160 But he's lost the fidelity of it.

00:30:50.960 Yep.

00:30:52.220 But it didn't work.

00:30:53.440 No.

00:30:53.660 And this is the point.

00:30:54.880 And so it's a complete waste of time and effort.

00:30:57.520 And he still hasn't managed to oust the Conservatives 1.00

00:31:00.540 as the boomer pension party. 0.64

00:31:03.340 somehow they're still strikingly ahead um i mean that was yeah mind you if you add them up look at

00:31:10.140 look at that though it's the 2019 which is what it is now but still if if you look at modern 0.99

00:31:15.640 as in the last set of opinion polls yeah who the boomers are going for they're still going for the 0.82

00:31:20.840 conservatives yeah well no it's it's it's both of them the the reform and the conservatives

00:31:25.100 those two alone account for by far and away most of the most of the yeah we covered it the other

00:31:30.220 week um anyway so how's this working out well not brilliantly um there have been some notable

00:31:36.960 defections from councillors from reform to restore because a lot of them uh they write

00:31:43.460 quite in-depth um little articles on twitter explain look i'm not happy with any of this

00:31:49.960 this is not the patriotic party that is for the british people here's another one uh councillor

00:31:56.080 roger tarrant uh where he says look i'm i'm not i'm stepping down as deputy group leader for reform

00:32:01.180 uk at cornwall council uh and joining restore britain under the leadership of rupert low

00:32:05.440 because in response to feedback from my constituents and a commitment to uphold my

00:32:10.040 principles this i mean again they're really explaining completely transparently well i 0.68

00:32:15.560 mean we talked about how badly nigel rogers treated the online right our treatment has

00:32:20.240 been blissful compared to the treatment that people who work for reform got well yes i mean 0.97

00:32:25.060 that's exactly what he says here yes right so uh he says concerns raised by members activists and

00:32:30.000 group leaders have not been adequately addressed volunteer county organizers operate without

00:32:33.480 consulting elected reform counselors in many cases have interfered with council business

00:32:38.060 resulting in the disillusionment and departure of members head off this is aware of ongoing

00:32:41.760 challenges regarding regional director or national director but has not affected change

00:32:44.920 reform uk has not demonstrated a commitment to allowing talent to rise on merit and continues

00:32:49.680 to recruit politicians from other parties same parties that failed the people of this country

00:32:53.500 over the past 20 years consequently i'm out i'm going to restore because that's where i belong

00:32:58.180 that's where the decent people are and so we get to the battle for great yarmouth oh right so let's

00:33:06.800 quickly check in on the polls yep uh yep there's been the notable decline and still on 24 percent

00:33:13.040 restore britain still on four percent uh things haven't changed tremendously but uh this is not

00:33:19.380 great right for reform obviously and restore britain just over a month old now so not a bad

00:33:25.760 start again nigel farage's one percent prediction failed already yes and restore has been um just

00:33:33.000 turning up in other polls unprompted so three percent on uh this ipsos one where again they

00:33:38.280 weren't prompted or anything like that and it's quite difficult to show up on these polls because

00:33:42.160 you have to click through because you can just you can just click any of those top ones is one

00:33:46.100 click if you want to if you want to make a point of you you have to be really making the point you

00:33:50.580 have to click other then you need to you know either and then a drop down field or just write

00:33:55.180 it in or something like that but it's hard work so to show up on an unprompted poll is

00:33:58.980 difficult and this is this is obviously not the first time this has happened in fact it keeps

00:34:03.200 happening so it shows that this does have some teeth and when prompted well there was a poll

00:34:08.720 here by uh i think this was uh find out now uh where they were on nine percent yeah nine percent

00:34:15.300 that is lift off that that is that is a take-off moment that is a whisker behind the lib dems and

00:34:22.760 and that's after like whatever it is a month and a half now yeah uh there's there's no reason not

00:34:27.600 to prompt restore at this point well and and people complain because this poll um was commissioned by

00:34:32.820 restore and prompted but you know and and it did the prompting but the methodology of the poll is

00:34:38.440 the same yeah and they're the only objection is that well you commissioned it so they prompted

00:34:43.060 you so yeah but why aren't you prompting you're prompting everyone else but this is obviously

00:34:47.860 serious political it's not favorable to restore it's just equal with the other parties that's

00:34:53.680 the only change when placed on a level playing field yes restore britain are now nine percent

00:34:58.480 exactly exactly the issue and this is the this is the irony of them saying well they're prompting

00:35:05.120 you it's like but you're prompting for all the rest yep you didn't prompt for any you think

00:35:08.980 you'd be getting those numbers i mean a biased poll would be when they prompt for reform and

00:35:14.340 nobody else that's a restore and nobody else yeah but that has a bit like at the moment they just

00:35:18.640 but you know it's just an equal footing and it gives you this result which is nine percent which

00:35:22.820 is fantastic again a month not even a month and a half incredible incredible work by the way by

00:35:29.160 everyone involved we're gonna win basically yeah and just in case you didn't know we're members

00:35:33.420 supporters restore britain just to be crystal clear about it but uh but this isn't our data

00:35:39.100 and they have uh the actual data in here as well all right so what was really interesting about

00:35:46.540 this um if i can there we are restore britain so all all over is nine percent so nine percent men

00:35:51.740 nine percent women that's interesting and even split between men and women that is actually

00:35:56.940 unusual that's very interesting i mean look at reform 25 to 15. right right uh look at like

00:36:02.460 labor's more female conservatives are slightly more male but restore is actually no conservatives are 0.52

00:36:08.140 more female than sorry i meant more female yeah um the but the restore even split it's like no

00:36:16.300 it's nine percent of women nine percent of men nine percent of 18 to 29s so fully represented

00:36:23.500 amongst the young people yep which is good completely even representation there but 11

00:36:27.660 18 30 39 10 40 to 54 12 55 to 64 right so you've got here a sort of elder millennial gen x cohort

00:36:38.380 who realize oh no the country's gone to hell it's like we've been saying it's people about our age

00:36:43.680 who are like no we just have to seriously start getting involved now you know what this is this

00:36:47.280 is the dad this is the mums and dads party this is the parents party that's exactly what i've been

00:36:51.260 saying isn't it this is this is people looking at the world because those people um i mean i think

00:36:58.240 over 30 i mean they will have the the inkling of a memory of a britain before this before the

00:37:04.180 blairite revolution there's people in their 40s like us yes oh no britain used to be amazing yeah

00:37:08.460 but certainly the 40s and definitely the 50s and early 60s those people they remember that okay so

00:37:13.780 they they fulfill two criteria mainly one they have children two they remember a better world

00:37:18.840 and they want that better world for their children and and they're the ones that are

00:37:23.480 strongest for this with the young people or some of the i think it's what's going to happen though

00:37:27.200 is the younger people they're going to tweak why is it my parents generation who want the best for

00:37:31.820 me are supporting this yes oh because they want the best for me trust there's something intangible

00:37:38.480 metaphysical yes that's been stripped away from this country and we can feel it yes it used to

00:37:44.060 be better than this a lot better in certain ways but look at it like seven percent uh and five

00:37:50.020 percent for pensioners basically they're still locked up with the conservatives the retirees

00:37:55.000 but a lot of them not like this again the conservatives still ahead of reform um yes

00:38:00.600 and so i think it's worth us talking about the the boomer question yeah we should we should talk

00:38:04.820 because comments were made yes in the last podcast and i did have a look at the i did have a look at

00:38:10.480 the comments and they weren't happy um let me be clear to the distinguished gray-haired individuals

00:38:18.400 watching this the boomers when we make a comment about the boomers we don't literally mean all of

00:38:24.540 you right we mean the median boomer who vote who votes on those who the median boomer here is going

00:38:31.620 to be a conservative or a reform voter like so when we make category when we make statements

00:38:38.300 about categories so for example i mean i remember in previous episodes and maybe even this episode 0.97

00:38:43.020 we said that young people are stupid and they vote green right we don't literally mean that 1.00

00:38:47.300 every single person under 25 is stupid and vote greens we mean that the median under 25 is stupid 1.00

00:38:53.720 and vote green which we can see from this yes which we can see from this data and and when we 1.00

00:38:58.280 say that the median boomer is is is selfish and only cares about their pension if that doesn't

00:39:03.280 apply to you well that doesn't apply to you we're not we're not talking we're not literally talking

00:39:07.840 about all of you and we don't feel the need to make this distinction when we're talking about

00:39:11.460 people under 25 or any other category unfortunately this is one of the problems about talking about

00:39:16.740 categories and classes yes when you have to speak in broad generalities and just for the sake of

00:39:21.780 what we are doing here by the process of categorization means that we can't caveat

00:39:26.800 absolutely everything we say well we would never we'd never make it through the the docket if we

00:39:31.800 exactly but i mean if if you're watching this podcast then there's a fairly high chance you're 0.86

00:39:36.380 obviously not one of the ridiculous selfish boomers who's like no i don't care how much 0.97

00:39:41.200 wealth i have to suck out of the young generations all i want is is my gibbs my welfare yeah you're 0.97

00:39:47.120 obviously not one of those people so yes we apologize for um speaking broadly um but the

00:39:52.980 thing is broadly speaking these things are true yes that's not every individual case and of course

00:39:58.040 if you're watching us then we understand that you have a much more uh high-minded view of what

00:40:02.760 it's happening here and you are much more aware of the actual problems okay so now we've defended 0.97

00:40:07.380 the boomers let's attack them because what what the hell is only seven set well between let's say 0.58

00:40:13.620 six percent of them why are only six percent of them like yeah i want what's best for my grandkids 0.97

00:40:18.260 why is it overwhelmingly so if you look at the reform line and the yeah it's it's over half of

00:40:24.680 them are just like no i i just want i just want to vote for a pension party i'm i'm going to assume

00:40:30.760 that it's a lack of coverage because remember these people are watching gb news they're watching

00:40:38.380 the bbc and so the only right-wing party they get to hear about is reform because of course gb

00:40:44.840 gb news have a moratorium on rupert lowe there's there's definitely boomers online i know because

00:40:49.420 all of the boomers that i know are online yeah same i mean to a degree i mean all of the boomers

00:40:55.000 i know are hardcore rupert lowe fans right like my my auntie uh is she keeps coming up to me and

00:41:01.500 telling me how all of her friends are just like have you heard of this rupert lowe chap he seems

00:41:04.720 pretty good and so that it's not that there isn't motion in the the boomers is a sort of class

00:41:10.700 it's just that the overwhelming majority get their news from someone like the daily mail or

00:41:15.500 gb news well and i suppose that goes to show why reform and conservatives are dominant amongst them

00:41:20.720 yeah absolutely i i genuinely think it does uh where's reform amongst the young let's have a

00:41:26.580 look so so reform are very strong in retirees and people who are about to retire and then

00:41:34.120 basically just cascades down doesn't it yeah uh they're not strong at all in millennials

00:41:38.440 which isn't a surprise but 16 i mean that's not terrible uh that's all the conservatives 1.00

00:41:44.900 yeah six 16 in the under 29s that's just because they're stupid and they don't know anything 0.99

00:41:48.660 and um you know that that's why 60 percent of the game for reform and 37 percent of the game for the 0.97

00:41:54.340 greens not all young people i should stress but then i don't need to give that um nine percent

00:42:00.080 of them are very switched on handsome and clever yes and i imagine that nine percent can grow

00:42:04.820 significantly so uh anyway the point being it's a very interesting split uh across the restore

00:42:11.200 supporters and again nine percent is just a superb uh start at this point uh and conversely um

00:42:18.900 farage is on his worst approval ratings ever actually uh since becoming an mp he's now below

00:42:25.420 minus 20 kissed armor on minus 40 remember so he's got a bit of a way to go till he gets to that

00:42:30.660 point but that's not great right nigel farage always had about uh you know about minus sort of

00:42:36.440 10 or 15 because he was a very well-known figure but that's getting worse not great i'd love to

00:42:43.400 know what what these would have been in in england's sort of high watermark in the sort of

00:42:49.700 late victorian era the georgian era where nigel farage would have been no where where leadership

00:42:55.740 approval would have been i mean would i mean even if you weren't in support of the gladstone would

00:42:59.780 you have said well yes but he's a fine gentleman and he's doing well you probably would have said

00:43:03.060 something like that yes i mean we like you know you can disagree with pit the younger's uh foreign

00:43:08.820 policy but you can't deny that he was a serious person who was taking the interest of the country

00:43:13.140 to heart but every all of our leaders people people have a negative view of them i do like

00:43:18.960 kia starmer's drop off here though he began with a 20 approval rating so how low can this go would

00:43:25.200 would it does it max out at minus 100 does it yeah that means literally every single person

00:43:30.820 in the country hates your guts okay well no sorry yeah um yeah i mean if you had literally because

00:43:36.960 it's it's just the support with the negative removed right so if you've got uh fewer supporters

00:43:44.280 than you do uh haters then you get a negative score so i mean it could be minus 100 and there's

00:43:52.520 always a percentage who are like don't know right mind you i do disapprove of all of these all of

00:43:56.540 these figures but i could i could imagine left-wing leaders who i would approve of i just i just

00:44:02.120 probably wouldn't vote for like like really the the who is it the oh the um is it the sdp

00:44:09.680 william colston william colston he's a good chap yep and if if he was the leader of the of the

00:44:15.980 left-wing opposition party i would i would give him an approval yeah i'll probably i would vote

00:44:20.400 for rupert over him yeah but i would approve of him yeah if william was leading the labour party

00:44:24.860 that'd be fine yes why can't we have leaders that we approve of even if we don't support them i don't

00:44:30.300 know but as you can see everyone's taking a tumble here literally everyone is on the downswing like

00:44:35.200 that zach polanski had a moderately sort of neutral approval rating uh but that's because

00:44:40.160 people had never heard of yes and the more people are being exposed to zach polanski you can see the

00:44:45.160 lower his approval rate what's not a lot like about teaching kids how to use drugs um scrapping

00:44:51.420 fossil fuels and and i could go through it open banning zoos yeah just banning horse racing is

00:44:58.680 that really a priority yeah like it's mental absolutely mental so anyway so the point being

00:45:05.380 is that everyone's on the downturn nobody in politics is really very well liked as it stands

00:45:10.620 and you get very interesting things like this this is in uh south uh in northumberland where

00:45:16.360 reform managed to lose to the tories that's not what should be happening how is no that

00:45:23.500 that shouldn't be happening but it's quite a significant swing there as well yeah so

00:45:28.260 conservatives gain from reform that's not how this is meant to be going nigel why did you take

00:45:34.220 all those tories in well people are now concluding well if if i if i vote for the tory he'll probably

00:45:40.460 be a reform guy soon so you know it might as well not bother or if i vote for reform i'm just getting

00:45:47.040 the tories anyway yes so i may as well just vote for the i might as well go for the real thing

00:45:50.480 yeah so who knows right what why would you bother with the with the knockoff gucci handbag you might

00:45:55.820 as well go for the real thing yeah it's it's really bizarre why would i want ersatz conservatives

00:46:00.280 when i could vote for a conservative if for some reason you feel inclined to anyway i thought we'd

00:46:05.280 just pick this just random poll is just a random poll where I mean it's pretty brutal to be honest

00:46:10.800 so reformer on 26% greens on 20% conservatives 17% labor 16% Lib Dems 11% brutal absolutely brutal

00:46:19.240 and that's what it looks like mapped out so reform not even scraping the not majority is it no there's

00:46:26.760 not a majority there the conservatives and labor look at labor on 12 absolutely crushed 12 yes again

00:46:34.440 this is just random poll by find out now so who knows but uh but i did notice something yeah it

00:46:40.060 could be this you know so what's what's that dark blue blob in the bottom right zoom enhance

00:46:47.020 interesting how that stays restore so this uh is something that people have noticed and

00:46:59.240 Connor posted this, but he sent me some screenshots in the group chat,

00:47:03.820 so I can validate what he is saying here.

00:47:06.740 Because there are moles inside Reform HQ, and I can't see it. 0.99

00:47:12.980 There most certainly are, yes. 1.00

00:47:15.840 In the, was it Milbank Tower, is it? 0.64

00:47:19.000 So there are moles in there, and I've seen the messages, so I can confirm these.

00:47:23.100 um but as connor says hearing from sources within reform the party plans to throw the

00:47:29.440 kitchen sink at great yarmouth next week in an effort to gamble hard on killing the restored

00:47:33.960 baby in the cradle reform will send party members that the public won't recognize rather than 0.90

00:47:38.540 senior tory defectors to tell great yarmouth locals that restore are nasty right wingers

00:47:43.500 because that's all they've got what are they going to be like yeah we you know that rupert

00:47:48.500 those are racist don't you so how does that work they knock on the door and say hi i'm from i'm

00:47:53.740 from the form yeah you know all the things that we said that we're going to do yeah well they're

00:47:58.840 actually going to do them so so don't vote for them because they're going to do the things that

00:48:04.120 we have tried to convince you that we will do the nigel farge has just tweeted he's about to do yes

00:48:08.740 yes exactly right there's there's a there's an air of desperation uh as as i said attempt to

00:48:15.760 strangle the baby in the crib and the thing is that is a concern right that if if they are able

00:48:20.920 to and this is for the uh general election by the way not for the local elections but they are also

00:48:25.740 trying it for the local elections as well presumably this attempt is for the local elections

00:48:30.260 it will be for both uh they are trying they are they are also doing this for the local elections

00:48:35.000 but this this particular map is for the general election but they can they can tell there's a

00:48:39.000 problem right they can tell if reform wants to do this we're just getting we just get jeremy

00:48:46.420 clarkson to run in clacton or something i mean that would be funny whatever it was but if they

00:48:51.560 really want to pick this fight well they are going to pick this fight okay because think about this

00:48:56.340 it's going to blow up on them like everything else they do think about this from reform's perspective

00:49:00.340 yeah so okay we thought we could leave our right flank unguarded yes but actually something quite

00:49:06.880 scary has appeared out of that which is a man who is very popular and just doesn't care that we're

00:49:12.800 going to call him a racist uh and so we know that he he is holding the winning hand we've got to

00:49:19.420 make sure he can't play it so if we can actually snuff them out now make sure they don't win the

00:49:24.660 local councillors by the way restore are going to try and win every local council seat in great

00:49:28.800 yarmouth by the way they they i mean remember great yarmouth first which is the the sub party

00:49:33.920 they're running it on uh they were they were polled in great yarmouth field then they got 44

00:49:38.160 of all of the people on that poll you know people oh yeah no i like the idea of great yarmouth first

00:49:43.700 and so it's like no they're going for the whole thing right and so reform this is their one chance

00:49:48.360 if they can make sure they don't get those council seats and rupert maybe loses his seat at the next

00:49:53.880 election that's that threat gone they need then they can move back to the left and they can go

00:49:59.860 wherever they want because they're just going to be the the the only alternative the default

00:50:04.460 alternative which is why i think farage did so well back in 2025 the the other part of the

00:50:09.780 strategy here is is where does it say it there that yeah so they're sending party members of

00:50:14.180 the public won't recognize because they don't want their fingerprints on if this fails yes

00:50:19.680 and it's probably going to fail so what they're doing is is we're going to we're going to place

00:50:23.900 a side bet here and if it works we're going to spend three months publicizing the hell out of

00:50:30.380 it and we're going to be talking about it all the time if the side bet doesn't work we will quietly

00:50:35.240 never ever mention this again yes because it can blow up in their faces as well and it will

00:50:39.920 because as as uh connor's uh shown um they are going to be spending significant resources on

00:50:46.840 rupert lowe because okay no i can see this is a threat we're going to try and take him out

00:50:50.340 well if they don't take him out and actually it does you know get revealed that they spent

00:50:55.760 huge significant resources well that's a tremendous blow in prestige to reform not

00:51:00.560 only did they look like they were playing like you know dirty tricks uh which they are which

00:51:06.440 they are obviously so just be prepared folks by the way uh for the dirty tricks um but it will

00:51:11.600 also make them look useless right and and all of this all of this is because Rupert Lowe said that

00:51:20.520 he would deport the rape gang communities and Nigel Farage had a hissy fit made up a crime

00:51:26.620 against him tried to get him arrested and jailed and kicked out of the party and he admitted it 0.84

00:51:31.660 and he admitted it to protect the rape gang communities that's what this all begins with

00:51:37.460 it's a really weird hill to die on it's like him saying oh all my minority candidates are getting

00:51:43.020 racist abuse on x it's like why do you have so many candidates why are you standing in defense

00:51:49.400 the race what what is it about these communities that obsess is obsessive for you anyway so the

00:51:55.720 rumors of who they were going to send to great yarmouth to contest it right uh were um matt

00:52:01.700 goodwin because apparently matt gbt bad loss well i i bet rupert's really quaking in his boots now

00:52:14.060 that the great election winner matt goodwin is is charging towards him yeah as you can see from uh

00:52:19.620 lewis's transcript here hi lewis you got this answer phone message my name is lucy i'm calling

00:52:23.220 from the reform party we'd like to invite you to an event this weekend um matt goodwin will be

00:52:27.100 coming to great yarmouth to do some leafleting and afterwards there'll be food and drinks and

00:52:30.780 live q a with matt goodwin join us good on down um i mean that's that's interesting and then

00:52:40.280 ian dale tweeted i understand sources close to reform senior party bigwigs are planning planning

00:52:46.860 to parachute matt goodwin to fight rupert lowe and great yarmouth election so he's going down

00:52:51.780 to leaflet and then he'll be standing opposite rupert lowe oh no as ian points out uh that would

00:53:00.040 be quite the spectacle to watch knowing great yarmouth well i am say i am not wholly convinced

00:53:04.260 goodwin would go down well there bring out the popcorn oh well i'll put my serious face on now

00:53:09.700 um oh no reform that's really bad don't do that because

00:53:13.900 oh with that that's that's really worrying if you send that goodwin i have some bad news though

00:53:21.160 right right goodwin say no i said no i i will not uh be the parliamentary candidate but that

00:53:27.800 doesn't mean he's not going canvassing but i suspect he's probably not either um but uh

00:53:32.660 matt goodwin has has rejected that this is the case but the thing is that was so funny though i

00:53:39.320 well i i suspect it probably was the plan until it got leaked and then it's like oh wait everyone's

00:53:46.180 laughing at this yeah probably not i mean where do you go for matt goodwin i mean

00:53:53.600 who's next because the only people that are allowed to be in the party are

00:54:01.320 oh yeah i suppose it would be wouldn't it yeah i mean obviously they're not gonna

00:54:05.340 literally that's the only other reformed person that i can mention who doesn't already have a

00:54:09.480 parliamentary seat yeah or oh did um no sarah pochin has one um dean doris there was that

00:54:17.520 tory guy the vaccine guy nadim zahawi yeah nadim zahawi yeah send him i'm sure that'd go even

00:54:23.240 better yeah send him to great yarmouth yeah uh so things are looking weird for reform right

00:54:29.780 there's this there's this general sense of insecurity it's like like like we say here like

00:54:36.480 um this uh okay they're afraid of reform over store and they want to strangle the baby in the

00:54:43.320 crib which is lovely and then you've got people like oh no come down matt goodwin's going to be

00:54:47.440 leafleting with you his star power will draw you in well and food and drinks and food and drinks

00:54:51.860 And then you've got this

00:54:54.640 Which is a bit weird

00:54:56.740 Look at this

00:54:59.720 Anything about this that strikes you

00:55:02.560 Is a bit odd

00:55:03.080 Look at the eyes

00:55:06.360 And look at the fingers

00:55:07.940 I'm getting AI vibes

00:55:09.940 And look at the vote reform signs

00:55:11.980 Which are all slightly different

00:55:13.380 Yeah, Richard Tice for some reason

00:55:16.320 Published an AI

00:55:18.640 Generated image 0.99

00:55:19.500 of reform it must be ai because it's got native people in it well i mean there are still indians

00:55:24.480 well yeah i mean ai can only go so far there's only so much an 80 billion dollar data center 1.00

00:55:32.120 can get you as far away from reality as is that well remember the ai just scrapes data off the

00:55:37.240 internet it's like well what's the average reform candidate like yes that's an indian that will soon

00:55:41.800 be updated but yeah so why would you be doing that though i mean a this isn't even good no this isn't

00:55:49.240 even convincing look at the weird fingers like this you know oh yeah that guy's got three fingers

00:55:54.960 and they're really long yeah oh and his and his right arm he has two hands only that's the other

00:56:00.460 guy's sign oh yeah but what's going on with this guy's eyes though all their eyes are closed and

00:56:04.500 like weirdly misaligned and things like that maybe maybe the reason their eyes are closed is because

00:56:09.300 matt goodwin is taking the picture i mean maybe but um but anyway obviously obviously fake so it's

00:56:16.200 like what why would you need to put out fake ai pictures but if you're such a popular party if

00:56:23.680 you've got no problem why wouldn't you have dozens and dozens of people all around all the time

00:56:27.080 and it's because it kind of speaks to this etherealness underneath the party yeah you've 0.99

00:56:32.420 got the flashy gimmicks you've got the the roadshow of the boomers but what do you have

00:56:38.120 underneath it and the answer is well not much right uh conversely our lads have been out 0.97

00:56:44.780 campaigning in great yard for rupert lowe and they've been fighting this sort of stuff

00:56:50.020 let's just say angloid just parked next to a picture of rupert lowe in a car uh and a bunch

00:56:55.900 of them have been out doing great work and i know this because i watched uh breakfast with

00:57:00.400 beau this morning and uh i can't remember his oh yes that chap yeah that chap yeah he uh he gave

00:57:06.660 us an update on what things are like on the ground so from his experience and i reckon

00:57:12.500 recommend you go watch this episode because it's really good um he he's found about 50 to 60 percent

00:57:17.680 of people that he interacted with handing out leaflets having conversations with them asking

00:57:21.500 who they're going to vote for uh were completely well disposed to rupert lowe and it's just like

00:57:25.460 the bbc when they went down there and they're trying to find someone to speak bad about rupert

00:57:28.860 lowe everyone's like no he's great he actually helped me with a problem now i really like the

00:57:32.260 fact that he gives his salary away to a local charity and things like that it's like yeah but

00:57:35.760 it turns out if you actually do things for the constituency people like you in the constituency

00:57:39.420 what a forgotten concept that is yeah i know imagine imagine actually helping the people

00:57:43.980 you've been elected to represent as is your job um so actually i think things are going quite well

00:57:49.320 for restore but like we said reform are going to pull out all the dirty tricks and there's been a

00:57:55.080 lot of resources in this so if you are in the area and are able to lend a hand by just walking around

00:58:00.940 posting leaflets through doors do get in contact um i actually the if you're a restore member you

00:58:07.100 would have got an email today uh saying there are going to be two big action days where they want

00:58:11.480 to get as many people together as they can summon the feared and put leaflets through doors so on

00:58:17.180 may the 2nd and may the 7th which is the day of the election if you can go and help out get in

00:58:22.680 contact with them go down to great yarmouth and do your part basically there isn't big money behind

00:58:27.740 restore there is big money by reform yes and we know the direction of travel and how they're

00:58:33.680 diverging from one another and and of course restore is so new they haven't been able to

00:58:38.400 stand up candidates yet so they're not they're not contesting this election i don't think in

00:58:42.620 many places no it's just great yarmouth actually this is a very smart move right so uh one that

00:58:48.360 you know there are lots of people they're not even contesting everything in the country it's

00:58:51.340 like well it's a month old yes that you know the amounts of logistics of contending the

00:58:58.480 the right thing to do is focus on the next general election exactly the right thing to

00:59:03.080 focus on the next general election but with this one actually it's a good litmus test yes can

00:59:06.920 reform can restore develop an electoral machine with a ground game yes that can win local councils

00:59:14.040 and actually this is a great so targeting the seat that rupert is already strong in getting loads of

00:59:19.560 people in hopefully doing a really good job and learn the lessons again yeah learn all the lessons

00:59:23.860 but hopefully have a comprehensive victory because i think there were eight council seats that are

00:59:27.300 up for grabs and restore hoping to win them all and god willing they will right because you know

00:59:31.540 if everyone goes down if you've got any any free times go down i mean great yarmouth's lovely

00:59:35.760 anyway it's just a big beach town basically it's absolutely lovely um go down and help out yeah

00:59:41.680 because they absolutely should if you're anywhere near great yarmouth but if you're not near great

00:59:45.440 yarmouth i would encourage everybody who watches this and is on board with the project we start

00:59:50.420 thinking about what can you could could i run for restore at the next election if you're not and

00:59:55.220 that you're fine if you're not but could you support somebody who's running for restore you

00:59:59.160 can go and get involved they've got a branch finder now so if you just type in restore britain

01:00:03.340 branch finder you'll find it in google right find your local branch and if you have a free

01:00:08.020 afternoon on a weekend yes get some leaflets i keep seeing people posting about their local

01:00:13.640 restore branch meetings and it's not weird or anything it's just a bunch of it's just it's a

01:00:19.740 bunch of people like us just it's all totally normal and it's they're all really well attended

01:00:24.240 as well so you can see there's a there's a great deal of energy there and this the thing about the

01:00:28.540 great yama thing it's like the the reception that our lads have found uh out there has just been

01:00:33.060 incredible like people are just so well disposed to restore that we really have an obligation to

01:00:38.320 get the message out there because the more we get the message out the more people come over and the

01:00:42.380 quicker our victory will happen so go and help out where you can folks because uh you know everyone's

01:00:48.540 got to do their part um i'm personally organizing the swindon branch just so fyi i'm not like you

01:00:54.660 oh go and do that no no no i'm doing my part i'm doing everything that we have to do um so you guys

01:01:00.420 have to do the things you have to do go and help them out everyone's really as far as i can tell

01:01:05.380 as well what what i find is really interesting is that it's exactly the same everyone's normal

01:01:10.020 and i've yet to encounter some giant ego problem right reform is you can feel the giant egos

01:01:16.820 involved in it and there's a kind of general sense of grift in it whereas in restore it's a general

01:01:22.000 sense of graft it's those like no no we just need to get on we just need to get the work done well

01:01:26.560 the restore message is it's going to be incredibly difficult but necessary it's a fundamentally

01:01:30.460 different message yes absolutely different and you know when we win you will know you have done

01:01:37.480 your part so anyway we'll see you in the next conversation go and find the local restore

01:01:42.440 branch help out do what you can we're going to win this

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - April 22, 2026

The Battle of Great Yarmouth

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