The Last Stand of the Epstein Network
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Summary
In this episode, we look at why Lord Mandelson failed the security vetting test, and why it matters to the rest of the Labour Party, and how the party is dealing with it. We're joined by Dan and Alex to discuss all things Labour.
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Hi folks, welcome to another one of our political chats in which Dan and I are going to be discussing
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whatever it is that's happening in the Labour Party, because something very interesting is
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happening in the Labour Party, and it's been very public, but there's a kind of opacity to events
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that I think a lot of people aren't really seeing the underlying motions and realising what these
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things actually mean. Well, I think a lot of it's quite obvious, even though they refuse to expand
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on any of it we just have no starmer has consistently failed to offer his motives for
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doing almost anything that he's done yes which is getting him to trouble at the moment now because
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he's talking about rules and procedures but he's not talking about is why i did any of these things
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in the first place yeah and the thing is there's a lot of circumstantial evidence yes around starmer
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i think it's very very interesting actually so you remember that last week summer had to address
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parliament over the vetting decision surrounding peter mandelson and he looks kind of terrified
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frankly and look at his body language there well i i i heard about it i haven't watched this yet
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are we going to watch much of this we're not going to watch it um i'm just going to talk about it but
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you you can see the faces on rachel reeves and david lammy there stummer's body language is quite
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small and defensive and he he looked frankly terrified throughout this whole thing well
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Rachel Reeves is sitting there like an aged King Charles Spaniel
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Yeah, Lammy looks like he's sat outside the headmistress's office
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I'm now going to argue my case, even though I know I'm in the wrong.
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And he spends this whole time hiding behind proceduralism.
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There was an error with the procedure, but I had it changed.
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and badenock had him at one point bang to rights on a minor technicality as it and it's it's really
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petty for you and i we'd be like what are you talking about who cares but for him so the the
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question that badenock got him on was when he told parliament about uh when he found out the
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mandelson had failed his vetting and he didn't tell parliament that previous wednesday even though
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because that was the earliest opportunity he'd done it on like the thursday or something right
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so it's like it's really really petty oh yeah but that goes to the core of who starborough is
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and actually i'll tell you the reason why that's so important is because his whole attack line
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against boris johnson back in the covid days was that yeah that well specifically that you did not
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uh that you misled parliament and you didn't update them at the earliest possible convenience
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so he had so even though it's a day and it sounds like nothing to him that is i mean that's his
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origin story yeah no absolutely it's and and don't get me wrong bedrock was it was good to get him on
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that point because that is something that affects him but it is also somewhat petty fogging and kind
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of irrelevant to the larger point that we're seeing being played out in the labor party in
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public at the moment uh anyway yeah like i said starmer changed the process so appointments can't
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be made until security vetting is passed as if that was anything to do with mandelson like but
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we'll get to that but again again why why did you not do the security vetting yeah we'll get to it
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there's a lot here right um and starmer of course claimed that he was kept ignorant by the civil
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service he wasn't told about the the security vetting uh he didn't ask them any questions
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about mandelson so as in you the allegation that we'll get to in a minute is just starmer demanded
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it be mandelson and asked nothing further uh and that's that's the point because he knows full well
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chaired a select committee meeting with ollie robbins the fired civil servant who has been
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taking the fall for this uh and ollie just came out swinging at starmer now this is all quite
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surprising because i mean starmer is the the probably the one politician you'd expect maximal
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compliance from the civil service from he's their kind of man he's got their kind of agenda he
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believes their kind of things and he loves their kind of procedures so why is he at war with his
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own civil service well because he'd rather throw them under the bus than go under the bus himself
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well that's the point isn't it that's a great point throwing people under the bus is exactly
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what starmer does and everyone's noticed this yes why is he throwing people under the bus
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which is something we'll come to so anyway sorry in fact ollie robbins did did say that he didn't
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he didn't use a term for under the bus he said something like one of these things he was asked
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to give a specific on an on another civil servant who um is connected with this and he said he said
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some version of oh i'm not gonna i'm not gonna you know put throw this person under the bus or
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something like that he said yeah but he said it in such a way as to be clear that he thought that
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was exactly what was happening to him so that is the perception percolating through the civil
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service very much so um so anyway ollie robbins uh in this in this meeting uh said that the cabinet
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office as an under starmer and mcstweeney had suggested there was no need to vet mandelson
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at all they'd applied constant pressure uh to approve mandelson's appointment and took a
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dismissive attitude to vetting which i honestly quite believe uh mandelson was given uh access
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he had been essentially controlling the Labour Party
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So, like you say, he got access to the building.
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Now, that little pass that he wore around his neck
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and got him into all the secure rooms inside the building,
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the date on that was something like the 6th of January.
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Yeah. Then the, I forget the exact specific, but something like the 6th of January and the vetting process began on the 8th of January.
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So the vetting process began after he had full access to the highest classified level.
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Just almost in comparison, how could anyone have this level of access?
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Well, because he's one of the original dark lords of the Labour Party.
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exactly and i think that what this is showing us is how the the dark lords in the labor party
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operate and i don't doubt this very conservative as well so anyway uh number 10 showed no interest
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in the actual vetting the entire focus was just getting mandelson to washington as quickly as
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possible uh so yeah like you say sama had appointed him before the checks no need to check the claim
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and the argument that they made was mandelson was a lord and on the privy council and therefore we
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don't need to do any checks it's like okay but he's also peter mandelson and he's only been fired
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what three times now for misconduct so i mean why would you why would you suspect
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for the man who keeps getting binned from government why would you suspect anything
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a bit iffy about the prince of darkness yes um yeah anyway so there's you know lots of these
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updates but um the same thing uh was applied to matthew doyle who was again uh suspended from
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labor over his links to a pedophile because he was campaigning for a convicted pedophile
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It's weird that at the higher levels of government
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that's more the point yes right and i think that's what's behind mandelson being accelerated up the
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ranks by starmer uh anyway so yeah the um ollie robbins uh testified uh in complete defense of
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the civil service yeah obviously you know and so you can see this this rift has occurred between
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starmer who expected a clean interface into the civil service and the civil service who wanted to
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interface with Starmer but are being asked to do something they know at some point is going to come
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back to haunt them right with the Mandelson stuff then there was constant pressure applied we didn't
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really understand it's like yeah I think you probably did understand why I think they understood
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exactly what was going on and that's why they didn't press very hard to give Starmer an update
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because they knew that Starmer knew that he didn't want to ask questions and therefore could cover
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himself later by saying that I didn't know I remember none of this would be happening if Trump
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Oh yeah, Mandelson was still being posted today.
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Yeah, with the highest level of security clearance.
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Well, you stayed quiet and were completely complicit
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until it got blown up through events beyond your control
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between Starmer's administration and the civil service
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it's only accidentally that we happen to know all of these things and that this event is even
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blowing up in the in their face in the first place i mean ollie robbins was like yeah i uh
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i regret all of this i regret everything he claims that he had done the process as starmer had laid
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it out uh and starmer to be to his credit does seem to be in the wrong here but again you were
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completely complicit in everything and the only reason this is happening is because of events
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beyond your control. Anyway, 10 Downing Street responded to this, denying the constant pressure,
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saying, well, we were just asking about the appointment process for the vetting. We were
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not needing any vetting. They say, well, we were discussing it with the cabinet office,
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foreign office officials, and security clearance. But these talks concluded there would need to be
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vetting. They denied that they were... Yeah, they had already appointed him. That's a really weak
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point exactly it was in the building yeah they they denied they were only leaning against clearance
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for madison uh saying the vetting body clearly recommended against and this should have been
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communicated to the pm and they refused uh refused to deny robin's claim that he was told
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found find an ambassadorship for then comms director matthew doyle lord doyle who was
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uh kicked out for being associated with the pedophile do you know what he failed the vetting
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actually on yes it was uh business links to china and russia yeah russian a russian and chinese firm
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it was actually nothing to do with the epstein stuff at all nothing at all and that's why they
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got him through because because the the advice came back and they said well and actually the
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advice it wasn't advice at that stage it was he's got these links to this russian and chinese firm
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um and so they're leaning towards not and ollie robinson who was under pressure said well can we
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put in place mitigation such as if he ever has any dealings with those two firms then it can be
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disclosed and someone else can sit in the meeting and something like that and because of those
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mitigations that was how you how he's able to sort of squeak through clearance it's got weird
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sort of echoes of hunter biden being on the board of burisma taking money from chinese firms and
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things yeah it's a bit like that like it feels that what's happening is actually there's a network
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of um compromised people who become loyal through the compromise that they have on one another
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and then foreign money is funneled through these networks and then they run the western world and
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they happen to be yeah then they accelerate oh he's our man in that network and therefore
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and i'm just going to call this the epstein network because epstein was clearly a core part
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of this yes and it genuinely seems like um pedophile compromise i'm sure there's other
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important nodes but he was clearly one of them yeah yeah i'm sure there are other important
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nodes but he was also quite a public facing uh feature of it um so an interesting thing is uh
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emily thornberry has been doing another select committee today and this came out today of uh
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uh philip barton uh admitting the permanent private secretary is not unheard of for them
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to withhold information from their bosses uh emily thornbury as artemis for now points out
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is stunned um but yeah i mean this is the kind of thing that they do like the the permanent civil
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service have their own interests to protect and they are very ideologically aligned with labor
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they obviously want to work with the epstein network but they do have to look out for themselves
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So if it's a sensible decision not to give certain kind of information
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Yeah, I mean, on a broader point, that's absolutely true,
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But in this particular case, it was made incredibly easy
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Yeah, so he was belligerent before, and the moment it happened,
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he then didn't engage at all he didn't ask any questions he didn't say how did it go he didn't
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ask he didn't even meet mandelson he didn't do it he did no follow-up whatsoever and this is a
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consistent theme actually with starmer that everybody reports he's just remarkably uncurious
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so so often there'd be a space of an hour or two a day where he takes himself off to a room and he
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reads a whole load of papers that have been given to him and it is normal for prime minister to come
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out of there with scribblings or points. We must do this, that. I didn't agree with that. This is
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fine. And people get a sense of what's going on. Starmer apparently walks out of those every time
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and says nothing to anybody. You don't know if he's got an opinion, if he has an opinion,
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what he wants you to do. And so everybody's kind of running on rails because Starmer is just kind
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of this blank void of not only charisma, but purpose. Yes. And the purpose is one of those
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interesting things um that we need to get to but the way that i would characterize this so far is
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i think what's happening is starmer as the representative of the epstein network
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in the british government is actually struggling with the deep state of britain
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about uh this accidental bomb that trump has dropped on them and who's going to be holding
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the fallout from it and the question that is continually ducked which you have brought up is
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Because this is where it starts to become very evident
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then why is he doing any of the things that he does?
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morgan mcsweeney was testifying at the same select committee with emily thornbury chairing
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uh and the fact that it's emily thornbury chairing is quite important as well because
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emily thornbury isn't part of the epstein network nor is she part of the primary enemies of the
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epstein network she's a labor grandee but she's the other part of it she's the soft left yeah
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soft left she's the sort of person who posts the pictures of england flags on the guy's house and
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go see look at this england flags it's like yeah but emily you that's normal that you know that's
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there's nothing wrong with that so anyway she uh she's been uh i mean i would say grilling but it's
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really just lightly interviewing morgan mcsweeney can we play a little bit i've never heard it speak
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uh irish accent very few of these people are english by the way and i mean one of the other
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problems was that kia didn't like him i mean the again for the new statesman kia doesn't even like
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him and never really has he's not Keir's sort of person um and the foreign office definitely didn't
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like him um as far as we can tell and then of course there's all the red flags so all of these
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things are problems you know getting in the way of Peter Mandelson becoming ambassador but you
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still wanted him to be ambassador right at the time in Downing Street um there was conversations
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and most people were making pros and cons arguments.
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I have to say, I know that a lot of people now say
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they told the Prime Minister they were against it at the time.
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Everything I know about how the Prime Minister works
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is he will consult widely, he will take a lot of views on
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and if everybody else was opposed to this appointment but me,
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he would not have made an appointment such as that.
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He does like to try to build consensus within his team
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everyone knows Starmer actually doesn't like Mandelson.
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Starmer is not the kind of guy who would willingly hang out with Mandelson.
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Starmer is the kind of guy who hangs out with Lord Hermit,
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Well, it's because it seems like he's the servant of some higher power.
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And what I found really interesting about McSweeney here,
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that, look how quickly, like, he thinks he's about to be attacked.
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Sorry, do you think there's an assassin coming, Morgan?
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That is a man who thinks he's in imminent physical danger.
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I think this is about being a part of a particular kind of network.
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Well, it could be that, but leftists are very low-T individuals.
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but um out out of this i think is quite an important uh point which is there's no natural
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reason that starma would want mandelson yeah i can get i mean i can give a little bit of background
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on on this sort of origin story of this chap here as it comes in so basically as we know the early
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days of the new labor movement was the great darkness himself tony blair and then his two
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of his arch uncleans which was alistair campbell and peter mandelson and the three of them kind of
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did new labor and there were loads of other people around like jack straw yeah but those were the big
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three yeah those are the dry when when um tony blair sat down in his office and closed the doors
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those were the three people in the room and they decided the real direction of what was going to
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happen anyway early on in the tony blair government um mandelson did whatever however you do the dark
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arts of how you do his job presumably pentagrams were drawn orphan children arrived candles were
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it and he unfurled a wing and out of the wing pit a spore plopped Morgan McSweeney so he he in the
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in the Blair government he was a young 20 year old brought on by Mandelson now of course Mandelson
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does his thing and gets involved in scandals gets brought back scandal uh buggers off again scandal
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off he goes but he continued to gestate in the body of of the of the new Labour party and continue
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to climb up the rank and now he's whatever he is mid-40s or something and he's achieved a
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position of power so a lot of people think that he is he or he was Keir Starmer's chief of staff
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a far more accurate way to look at it is that Keir Starmer was his prime minister so he was
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there first and he was casting around at the end of the Corbyn era and it's like okay well I'm I'm
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the functionary for the Blair right wing of this party Corbyn can't last who do we go to and he
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identified Starmer he was brought into parliament he was then fast-tracked through the process
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really quickly and when it came to be who was leader the the most powerful labor faction which
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was functionally led by him picked Keir Starmer so so Starmer is his creation not the other way
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around right correct and he is Mandelson's creation he's Mandelson and he's Mandelson's
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creation right he was advocating so hard yes and throughout this thing he says well look
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i i didn't know i didn't know it's like i don't believe that right oh yeah for a second i mean
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like he he's got a very strange history as well when he was 17 he spent like six months in an
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israeli kibbutz and things like that and then he went straight out of uh university into the
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labor party in the in the sort of um that's the summoning i was referring to yeah it's it's very
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brought on by manelson yes you know for an irish lad you know how how this is his like life
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trajectory is very peculiar and i can't explain it i wish i knew how you had to be compromised
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because because you know i could have achieved high political office if i just offered myself
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up to whatever process it is yeah so anyway uh in going back to the previous uh
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parliamentary appearance where uh we started uh diane abbott absolutely destroys keir starmer
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here and we'll watch a bit of it because it's funny. The Prime Minister has gone on at considerable
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length about process and procedure but ordinary people don't really care about process and
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procedure. They want transparency and they want to know that they can have confidence
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in the words of elected politicians like all of us in this chamber on the question of Peter
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Mandelson it was in the 90s that Peter Mandelson had to resign for the cabinet for the first time
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because of his dealings with the millionaire Jeffrey Robinson it was a few years later he had
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to resign for the cabinet for the second time because of his relationships with the billionaire
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based down how it gets exactly it's not like peter mandelton wasn't some known property
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you there isn't just there's nowhere to hide here there's absolutely nowhere to hide and in fact
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it was john mcdonald who really drove the nail home on this right and isn't the reality this
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that when he sought to realize his ambition to become leader of the labor party
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with very little base within the party he became dependent on max sweeney and mandelson
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and labor together to organize fund his election and that when he became prime minister the reward
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for Max Sweeney was control of number 10 and for Mandelson the highest diplomatic office
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and the message the unspoken message to civil servants was what Mandelson wants Mandelson gets
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this has damaged the party that I've been a member of for 50 years I urge him I urge him
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i urge him to take steps to clear this toxic culture out of our party and take the first
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step by having an independent inquiry yeah now it's important to note that mcdonald and abbott
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are not a part of the epstein faction in fact they were one of the primary opponents of the
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epstein faction yeah they're hard left yeah they're hard left right uh and so is jeremy corbyn
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and the epstein faction used allegations of anti-semitism to crush them yes drive corbyn
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out of the party you notice that he made reference to labor working together so that is basically the
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labor party's officio assassinorum yes that that is how they they they basically take people out
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with what you said i mean they they will use the anti-semitism because that normally works but they
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use anything else that they need to as well anything they can get their hands on um but this
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what he said there, we need to get rid of that toxic
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Starmer's never going to do that, but he denies
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this obviously, because he's never going to do that
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of this network, because I think this network does
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work on compromise, which is why it's the Epstein
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and Starmer's being left holding this hot potato.
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The Epstein Network is the patron of Starmer in the Labour Party.
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It's how he got his position, as McDonnell told him.
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And you can understand why John McDonnell in particular
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because, of course, he was the number two for Jeremy Corbyn.
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and and this was an old battle that tony blair had previously won which was expunging the hard
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left and bringing in the the blair right the compromise fraction as you might might think of
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it and then the the hard left was basically pushed aside and then they had that brief moment of
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revival when when corbin unexpectedly became leader because ed meliband foolishly changed
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the rules so that anyone could sign up for five pounds i signed up under like 10 different names
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um yeah and and anyway so then and then he lost to therese may yes and then um he he had got sort
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of pushed out of it so for him this this is an entirely sort of personal um bit of a personal
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vendetta as well what was it therese may or boris johnson who crushed corbyn actually no it would
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have been i'm sure it was may it was 20 no it was may may won very very narrowly that's right because
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she had a majority and then it was a lot shakier well so so she called an early election and then
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And Corbyn lost, but he lost on far more votes and a higher vote share than Keir Starmer won on.
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And they kept coping about it, saying, look, we won that election.
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It's like, yeah, okay, we didn't lose as badly as we thought we were going to.
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But the reason why he's so offended by this is because during that Corbyn process,
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Starmer had himself suitably oiled and attached to Corbyn.
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he basically lied to the Labour Party membership
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but she's so well entrenched in Tower Hamilets
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but this entire time where he was shadow chancellor
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oiled and attached and being a spokesman and what he and what he was doing is he because he was a
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fresh mp at that point he was building his power levels with the network being run by mcsweeney
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so the moment the labor uh was it labor friends working together or something like that he
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mentioned i think it's just called labor together labor together yeah so as soon as the officio
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assassinorum of the labor party could remove corbyn the moment that he lost an election
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suddenly um starmer flipped it was like ah i've never i never actually was your guy even though
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i spent the last five years telling you i was a guy anti-semitism is unacceptable and now i'm
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going to use the um the labor friends together thing to have you taken out yes and this and
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this is the starmer mcsweeney sort of control and the mandelson control of the the sort of
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core infrastructure of the labor party but it's all dark hearts it's it's none of it is front
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facing it's all behind the scenes and all of this was in facing perfectly well with the civil service
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until trump's dropped the bomb on them yes right and this is the thing we've got to remember it's
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like no these people are not being wrenched apart because they want to be they were very happy doing
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everything behind the scenes because somebody's going to sink into the oil and starmer's damned
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if it's him but the but none of this was happening until trump wrenches open this this ray of light
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onto it you know they were completely happy to go along with it uh anyway so going back to the
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mcsweeney thing um i'm just going to summarize a bunch of things i was watching it i watched it
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before we came on to record this uh morgan's basically confessing everything um he says
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that peter mandelson would not have got the job of kamala harris had been elected u.s president
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so peter mandelson was chosen specifically by keir starmer even though keir starmer doesn't
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like peter mandelson and i think it's because peter mandelson is best buddies with jeffrey
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epstein sends him all the information and all this stuff and the epstein network is embedded
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in the trumpet i mean there was there was a yeah there was a dark interpretation of that which is
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what you just said which is having if somebody from the network gets in yep on the u.s side
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we need our best man in the network to go and interface with their network men and if kamala
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harris had won well i guess they would have chosen someone else yeah i mean the the two people they
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would have found somebody that lines up with her network the the two people who were up for the
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ambassador job were mandelson and george osborne i'm not saying anything about george osborne i
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don't know anything about george osborne really i mean he was the chancellor but like you know in
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this when it comes to the dark arts and the mysteries surrounding the the back end of
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politics i don't know if he's involved but the question becomes raised well okay it was mandelson
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for trump but if kamala had won would it been osborne i don't know why was he even up for the
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job like what why i mean it's not like osborne is completely divorced from that network i mean
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bear in mind that him and mandelson were you know it was a minor scandal at the time but a scandal
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none the less they were both on the same billionaire's yacht um private party so it's
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is not like osborne is completely out of that world so he's not as ingratiated as mandelson
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but he's not out of it either yeah and like i said i'm not casting any aspersions on osborne
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i don't know anything about osborne's personal life behind the scenes but the question is just
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why was he the other guy and it kind of implies okay i've got two people seems to be dependent
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on who wins the election that's what it sounds like to me anyway he carries on and says um that
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mandelson was picked uh because donald trump and as i said kirstarmer did not have enough
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information because mandel mandelson did not share the necessary information yes everyone
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knows and also because he didn't ask you didn't ask but also like dan abbott pointed out it's
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mandelson yes everyone knows he's you know oh mandelson claims i'm not jeffrey epstein's friend
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anymore it's like there are pictures of him giving epstein birthday cakes and things like this like
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look no one no one thinks this um and and that was known at the time yeah yeah this none of this
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was a secret at all yeah long-term knowledge uh and morgan mcsweeney says he thought manderson
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cared about his party and country and at least be honest with his prime minister which no but
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none of you expected to have to go through this process because none of you none of you thought
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the epstein files had dropped and also starmer didn't speak to him so so you know even if
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manderson was was a you know even if he's got the worst poker face of the world and he would
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have gushed all out on light examination yeah starmer didn't ask him any of it he didn't even
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meet with him. But he doesn't want to, right? Because as Emily Thoroughby pointed out, they
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don't like each other. He doesn't like Mandelson. Like, he's not Starmer's kind of guy. They
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wouldn't actually hang out. Anyway, another point that was made is that Keir Starmer held a meeting
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in mid-December where a decision was made to appoint Lord Mandelson as US ambassador. There's
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no record of this meeting. There's no minutes of discussions or the reason at the time. The
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cabinet office simply can't find it. It doesn't appear to exist. So it really is a significant
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meeting on the appointment of the u.s ambassador one which had huge ramifications for starmer's
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premiership it only appears to exist in the memory of those who are present as in this was done off
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the record right so we were trying to keep as much as we can off the record because nobody really
00:32:40.880
wants it because i mean you don't think that the epstein files are going to drop but maybe they do
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and anyway and then you've got manderson giving the highest level of security clearance which
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again is really weird and i think it does tie into the fact that uh mandelson was the person
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who drove out the corbinites because of course they're not a part of the epstein network
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mcsweeney ends up claiming that he didn't know anything about this it was a knife through my
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soul when i discovered mandelson's at the extent of mandelson's links to jeffrey epstein well yeah
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because that's his mollocks well that's because no what he's wounded there of is that mandelson
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is his sire and and and now that his dark sire is being you know splash with holy water or however
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it works and you know criminal justice system um yeah he's affected by that it's a key node in his
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network he's being damaged that's what that's why he's upset yeah uh anyway so what we're what we're
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seeing is the two warring factions in labor the corbinites and the epstein network and they're
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not the only factions but the two that are currently at war and the corbinites uh have
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really struck hard here because the epstein files have exposed the epstein network um
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another thing that robbie ollie robbins pointed out with it is that they were pressuring him to
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give matthew doyle some ambassadorship again the guy disgraced because he was campaigning for a
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pedophile for anyone doesn't know this is baron doyle um but he was still giving the peerage
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despite the links to it he's still lord doyle he hasn't even been forced to resign as well
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mandelson was at least forced to leave the house of lords but not uh lord doyle for some reason i
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mean this must have been quite difficult for ollie robbins because he is a career civil service and
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at the time of this there were cuts to the foreign and commonwealth office meaning that he was having
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to fire a great number of very senior very experienced diplomats and then two of the
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plushest jobs go to two labor apparatchiks with no diplomatic experience whatsoever but people
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who seem to be connected to the same network well there was that which appears to involve
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compromise yes um and the long-running question about epstein and the political influence network
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that he was peddling was how do they maintain loyalty and control over their network and it
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seems to be through this kind of dark compromise and on that note a fifth rent boy has hit the
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white that hit the twin towers a second a fifth one has been arrested over arson attacks on
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properties linked to kia starmer yeah now you remind me of this i'm changing my mind i'm glad
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that in my younger years nobody explained to me how to get into this network because yeah yeah
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because it's it's it seems to be quite dark and now we can only make inferences on the evidence
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that the the data points that present themselves this this this fifth arrest is he like just out
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of interest i haven't seen the fifth arrest is he out of interest just like all the other ones which
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which is to say i don't know young boyish good-looking in a sort of boy i haven't seen
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a picture of way i mean and they haven't released his name right this was a 19 year old who was
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arrested so hang on he's 19 now yes he's as of today he's 19 yes and keir starmer lived at those
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addresses like four or five years ago something like that a fifth man these were properties
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linked to keir starmer but in fact we've got the fact sorry but what why yes the trial has begun
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it began yesterday right right so we're from uh labor heartlands left-wing news views and opinion
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uh we are we are informed and by the way there's no reporting restriction on the rent boy trial
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and we know because a few of our friends are down there reporting on it nothing in nothing
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very interesting nothing will happen early on yeah but but the point is there's no reporting
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restrictions but none of the press are there oh thank goodness we got people there then
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well exactly anyway uh the alleged incidents unfolded five days in north london in may 2025
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the first occurred on the 8th of may when a car was satellite in a residential street in kentish
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town three days later on the 11th of may a fire broke out the front door of a house converted
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into flats in islington a further fire occurred in the early hours of 12th of may at a property
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at the same kentish town street the kentish town property was the home where kia starman lived
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before he became prime minister and moved into downing street he no longer lives at any of the
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properties at the time of the fires no injuries reported either so hang on i'm just i'm just when
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did kia starman become prime minister was oh that was only two years ago so yeah okay so technically
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i don't know yeah who knows and that's from the top one is from oh no that's from peter mandelton
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the top one yeah because yeah because epstein likes girls but it seems like anderson it would
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seem like boys okay fine yeah yeah yeah and because a lot of these young men they were on
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these apps weren't they on these apps where if you may i think they're male modeling that's how
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they describe themselves male modeling app so that if you know it's i don't know three o'clock
00:38:50.420
on Saturday morning, and you just need a bit of modelling done,
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you can get one of these very young, boyish men to turn up
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and do a spot of modelling for you, because, I don't know,
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And so that's all quite weird and inexplicable stuff.
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And then you remember where Starmer became the first Prime Minister
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to take a HIV test, which was bloody weird and inexplicable, isn't it?
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i mean if he were to just quietly go and have an hiv test being quite famous that's the sort of
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thing that would leak so you probably can't do that but what you can do is you can do it in your
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charisma vacuum way on tv or what yeah while being boring while claiming to raise awareness
00:39:41.480
and you get the same outcome you get your hiv test while committing to end new hiv cases in
00:39:47.300
england by 2030 is keir starmer doing his bit to make sure that hiv isn't spread i don't know it
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was negative for him so that's good news well yeah that is encouraging and then this also ties
00:39:59.500
into rumors swirling around now i can't confirm or deny any of this but uh dan wootton uh who is
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himself quite plugged into these things uh you'll see here that starmer says his wife victoria is
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encouraging him to stay on as prime minister i can find her all the time that's the best advice
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just thankful i got her every day and dan witten uh rebuts this saying no this is a complete lie
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lady victoria starmer no longer resides in downing street with the children she's more miserable than
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she's ever been and wants them out asap uh she's being used as a political tool based on fantasy
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now i i don't know what the state of kia starmer's marriage lady i don't know uh but i didn't realize
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she was nobility well i mean maybe she was given a peerage or something as well i don't know
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i didn't look into it to be honest but the point here is it sounds like there's something in kia
00:40:45.720
starmer's personal life that we're not being told about now i mean there are rumors and
00:40:49.240
allegations of him and look like a bastard child and things like this now like i said i don't know
00:40:54.360
any of this if the wife isn't in the house she wouldn't be there while the male modeling jobs
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are going on i guess not she but she might have some sort of creative insight on on how to model
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effectively you you might think but the point is it's not it looks like that i mean there's very
00:41:12.340
rarely smoke without fire right yes especially literally your front door being set on fire by
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strangely attractive ukrainian young men like why was it his front door that was burning or was it
00:41:23.300
his back door that i think it was actually the front door front door um but the point is
00:41:29.900
it may be that keir starmer is in private exactly the kind of man who would be compromised by the
00:41:38.700
epstein network no comment i can't i'm not saying this is definitely true i don't know
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but these are all again data points that are being made very publicly i can understand why
00:41:54.140
some people might start to ask questions here i mean personally i'm i'm completely satisfied
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and i'm not sure i want the answer yeah i mean i i don't want to be arrested myself so i i draw no
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further inference however i can understand that one or two people watching this may yeah possibly
00:42:12.020
draw some conclusions yeah you're connected to the epstein network via mandelson you have
00:42:18.760
ukrainian young men attacking where you used to live yeah and you've taken a hiv test and and
00:42:26.640
your wife has moved out and is miserable i mean i i'm just saying i feel like there's more of a
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story there that we're not being told but any possible isn't it yeah so is starmer the kind
00:42:37.940
a person who is who could be compromised by the epc network well maybe i don't know right now so
00:42:44.880
let's move on to what starma is going to do so how do the public think starma is doing well across
00:42:49.880
basically every way that there are stay hated uh does he stand up for britain abroad now that's his
00:42:54.860
best uh characteristic actually oh the fact that he is minus 20 approval rating on that um minus
00:43:01.840
20 is as good as it gets that's literally the best one on this list yeah uh because he didn't
00:43:06.800
get involved in the iran war oh yeah yeah i mean obviously not good on chagos that's lord hermer's
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fault so yeah you know but he agrees with that he's the prime minister um but you can see acting
00:43:17.640
in the nation's best interest not really competent my god you know nearly minus 40 sticks to
00:43:22.780
principles no i've never heard him articulate a principle oh apart apart from all the the wanky
00:43:28.920
twaddle about diversity is our strength and that's the only principle i've ever heard
00:43:32.620
anti-semitism and islamophobia his primary principle is keeping the native english people
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down in their place actually that's true that's true those are the principles yeah he yes yeah
00:43:43.340
so so actually he does stick to his principles why is that just evil well yeah but he sticks to
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them uh yeah yeah but you know decisive now this this decisive one's a bit unfair he's bloody
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decisive he kicked out corbyn he's he's literally like starling in the way that he has operated
00:44:08.360
last two, because you're right, he does stick to his
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principles for sticking it to the native British, and
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he is decisive about it. And so what was the other one you said?
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Getting things done? Yeah, he does that as well.
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just people don't like the things that he's doing.
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Like, he's doing evil, and it's like, yeah, okay,
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he actually is you know trustworthy well not for you but for someone else's network he is pretty
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trustworthy actually you know he's getting the job done he's he's brave he's being trusted with
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big decisions sorry for someone else they are all gonna say yes no kia sam is our man of course you
00:44:50.620
being on the raw end of the cutting edge you're gonna be like no i don't like this and so of
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course you can see likable there right at the bottom uh strong leader shares my views is really
00:45:00.200
bad in touch with ordinary people and represent most people's views no he represents the epstein
00:45:04.860
network very very effectively uh but the point is nobody likes him but the problem that labor have
00:45:13.240
is that nobody really likes anyone else either uh here's you gov asking well i mean you know who
00:45:19.160
who would do a better job and andy burnham kind of oh he's this clear standout choice but
00:45:54.420
you don't even have half of the people being like
00:46:24.680
Keir Starmer did save his political career by doing so,
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because otherwise he would have lost a by-election.
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I mean, much better job or somewhat better job.
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because she's the only one who has a sort of personality
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Sure, but 37% of people think she's just doing a worse job,
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And she doesn't understand any of what's going on behind the scenes.
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But again, why did Keir Starmer surround himself with these people?
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Ed Miliband, again, about the same number of people.
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But he is impoverishing us and making us poorer
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But about 15% of people think he'll do a better job.
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That's not exactly a vote of confidence, is it?
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Actually, it has to be David Lammy for the memes,
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but those numbers aren't even that much better.
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and they might have complete control of the Labour Party
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and they might have the worst and most hated man
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But a lot of them are quite close to the soft left
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Because these are categories with permeable borders.
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So the point is, nobody is really very persuaded
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Well, a quarter of Labour voters in 2024 would prefer Andy Burnham.
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but look at the point of view of a labor um mp right current polling suggests you're on track
00:49:24.100
for four seats so it's well it's not entirely that i mean like some polling has them on about
00:49:29.660
70 seats some polling oh yeah okay so let's say 35 seats so so the probability of you losing your
00:49:36.680
seat is somewhere between 75 and 99 my point is that's pretty rough my point is yeah
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you might as well just roll the dice andy burnham is an option um angela rayner is too stupid to
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even have a faction just doesn't understand what's going on she doesn't get she doesn't
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get the depths of the political nuances at all right but she she has a personality and she's a
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bit bubbly and some people like her when they first see her so just leave with her or something
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we're in charge of the country which is what literally five percent of people want in the
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country five percent would prefer her to be yeah she she could be you know she's great for a night
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cool teacher at the kindergarten around the corner or something i could go for a beer with
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angela totally fine but come on but this this is really interesting though isn't it because not
00:50:26.480
only have labor never been less popular yeah but essentially their entire careers now depend on
00:50:31.880
starmer not backstabbing them all because if they think oh we're going to take him out and we'll
00:50:37.700
come into what this what's going on underneath this in a minute salman can just call a general
00:50:42.440
election oh yeah he wants right yeah he literally holds the the sword of damocles above their heads
00:50:47.840
and anyway let's let's carry on and we'll get we'll follow that line of thought we'll come back
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on that because yeah absolutely yeah uh so this is a party lever favored uh by most by most by
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region right zach polanski is at three plus three percent in scotland in wales it's farage
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So you can see, actually, what does Starmer represent?
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and he has no natural constituency outside of that.
00:51:30.500
and the connection to the larger Epstein network
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is literally just at the you know it's sort of occupying the brain of the country and the body
00:51:40.420
of the country is like no anything anything but this this is starting to look like i don't know
00:51:44.700
medieval france where paris is just this like fortress city that kind of rules the country
00:51:51.820
but not really it just sends out raids into the rest of the country and issues forth devastation
00:51:57.000
takes the plunder and lays down the law and then clears back off to paris again isn't isn't that
00:52:02.140
interesting yeah right where so you you've got this issue here and then you've got the issue that
00:52:08.500
nobody actually wants the labor party as we've just covered so that means that starmer is
00:52:13.620
projected to lose his seat to the greens but also corbyn is projected to lose his seat to the greens
00:52:19.600
so these two warring factions who have spent ages taking chunks out of each other are both going to
00:52:24.580
be kicked out of government and get kicked out of parliament but the labor party is going to come
00:52:32.600
the Labour Party's third in Corbyn's high seat.
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But even then, it's second in Holborn and St. Pancras,
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but they're going to lose a lot of London in the May 7th elections.
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look, we don't care about the Epstein Network's argument
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while the Greens come storming in like the final boss of communism.
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And, you know, you can say whatever you like about Zach Polanski,
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but he's an inveterate enemy of the Epstein Network.
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and he's surrounded by people who just religiously couldn't qualify
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so um you know like he he's he's not part of that he's something else that's evil but he's not part
00:53:32.500
of the epstein network and so uh the the labor party like hang on a second the things we're doing
00:53:39.620
seem kind of mad now right in light of all of this happening like are we sure we want to give
00:53:44.980
under 16s votes they haven't voted for us anymore they're voting for oh no the people who are going
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to do that backfires i mean that that is the biggest backfire since giving u.s police body
00:53:55.080
cams as a as a black lives matter demand because yeah all of those 16 to 18 years like 90 percent
00:54:01.020
of them are going to vote for the greens they've lost the argument on that because what they don't
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want to vote for the epstein network yeah and they literally call it the epstein network themselves
00:54:08.940
the green well i'm lifting this terminology from the greens because i think they are right to call
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it the epstein network so i think that's literally people connected to jeffrey epstein through
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various means because of various reasons but starmer isn't isn't going to let this happen
00:54:24.200
he's going to go down fighting right he's going to plot to get out of the sleaze inquiry by whipping
00:54:30.100
the labor mps to vote down any attempt to have the parliamentary sleaze inquiry as in basically
00:54:36.940
he's going to kick them out of the labor party if they even think about opposing him who are not
00:54:41.440
supposed to use a free line whip for that that but you're not supposed to do anything that starmer's
00:54:47.180
doing well yeah scandal after scandal after scandal after scandal and literally yeah like
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i'm sick of hearing jacob rees mob going well he's finished now he's going to have to resign now it's
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like no jacob you don't understand what's happening bro like you're thinking in like again the terms
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of a conservative in normal times where a scandal would be like boris johnson and chris pincher
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was enough to make him resign not now like well you played a brilliant clip on on this show maybe
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five or six episodes ago it was a while ago now and the clip was david lammy walking down downing
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street and somebody shouted out are you going to resign and he's and he replied back i've been
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waiting 14 years to get here i'm not going now yes exactly the same with so this this guy has
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been a soulless fabian since that weird passport photo that keeps getting shown in the press when
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he was 90s yeah like when he went to czechoslovakia and and yeah like probably the 80s actually he's
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he's been waiting his whole life for this moment he will do whatever it takes to cling on yeah and
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so and and this is why it's important to think about this in terms of factions starmer mandelson
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mcsweeney epstein faction at the top of the lay party got complete control his front bench
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soft left retards right literally puppeteering these morons right as in i don't care
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about you at all i will throw the civil service under the bus yes i will throw all of you guys
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under the bus and like the the epstein network has been using the soft left yes idiots as like
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cannon fodder were they useful idiots they literally are useful idiots yeah because and
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that's the danger of having i mean i know aa keeps talking about you know unified elite but
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the problem is this this particular elite is so hard to get into that it is by definition very
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narrow and it's not it's not even broad enough to encompass an entire government front bench
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and but it's it's well prepared to wield power very viciously and corbyn out you know abbott and
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um donald nearly out like the skin of the teeth you know this is again starma is literally like
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Stalin when it comes to this kind of bureaucratic exercise of power and Starmer thinks he's gonna
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win uh oh sorry we'll get to that uh so yeah Starmer thinks he's gonna win he thinks he can
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win the next election right and it's like okay but that sounds mad I mean given that he's so
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soulless that it's difficult to know if he actually believes I don't think he believes I think that he
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wants people to think that he believes that so that he's given the benefit of the doubt until
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the next election actually holding power until the next election is the real prize here but but
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of course who's giving him support well lord hermer i'm optimistic to win the next election
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under sir kia well this is this is the epstein network of human rights lawyers the rule and like
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hermer is starmer's oldest friend isn't he the chap who's embroiled in a fresh news scandal
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because he was backing bogus claims against british troops in iraq and afghanistan correct
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which has caused many troops to be well some have committed suicide they've been dragged through the
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courts have been absolutely persecuted and it turns out most of it if not all of it was entirely
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made up to win fees and that he was profiting from these malicious charges against troops
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yeah he also um he got a 1.5 million pound house without having to pay tax on it recently i only
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saw the headline going past i haven't looked into it but the point is like typical epstein network
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nonsense right a proper rotter this one yeah absolutely hermer is an inveterate anti-british
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enemy and under every circumstance yes he was arguing for shaman begum to come across he wants
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chagos deal sent away and all the everything it's all coming from the attorney general
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richard hermer right gear starmer's one and only true friend one and only true friend which puts
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him smashed into the epstein network right so we've got the backing of the epstein network we've
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got the backing of his human rights lawyers compatriots like you can see who wants starmer
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to remain in their position and labor list have come out and uh put out this propaganda now i'm
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not i'm not saying that there's anything to this but the point is this is one of those cases where
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the polls are designed to lead opinion rather than report opinion should kia starmer resign
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over the scandal 61 of labor members say he shouldn't oh really okay even though 83 he's
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handled it badly 61 think 61 think he should not resign so there we go label party members who read
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label list again you can see this is part of the network and its functions in the party essentially
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saying no no we're not going anywhere yes right that's the thing they're not going anywhere they
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they think they can win i think kirstama can win i think i can win i mean i don't know why you would
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think that because everyone hates you you are literally the most hated prime minister
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labor's current approval rating is about 15 against 68 negative like it's like it's almost
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impossible to find someone who does like the labor party at this point i don't even know where i would
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go i mean i guess you go to central london which is where he's got the only approval rating that
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he's ever he has in the entire country but if he can if he can keep the reins of power for three
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years he can do a lot in three years exactly and so he has to fend off the soft left now he has
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been making noises about patriotic values he intends to fight i mean maybe customer is literally
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so delusional he thinks he could be nigel farage on this subject i mean you know nigel farage's
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popularity is going down but if if he turns it into a referendum on who is the patriotic party
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labor or reform he can't win that so like you know nigel farage's got many many flaws but being
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an anti-british traitor is not one of them actually yeah but it won't it will it will be
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a battle between um some mix-up between restore and reform versus the greens the labor are not
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going to feature in this of course but he either doesn't know or doesn't care about this right
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because like you yeah i can't bet i think i think he just wants power three more years to do as much
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damage as he possibly can until he's kicked out exactly and so the soft left don't know what to do
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right so we've got um you know people like yvette cooper oh i'm extremely concerned about all this
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i can't believe like it's it's something that they know is wrong but they don't know what to do
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ed milliband can't even defend starmer on this this is hilarious let's watch this quickly
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um that whole due diligence report saying lord mandelson was a walking red flag
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Keir Starmer reads it, decides to appoint a walking red flag
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to be the US ambassador, and nobody thinks that's a problem at the time.
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Well, I think, you know, look, it was a very risky appointment
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and it turns out to have been extremely risky for all the reasons that we now know.
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If I'm watching you, I'm not sure what else anyone needed to tell
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the person at the top of government about this individual
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That's not how you're supposed to do political interviews.
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The Epstein Network and Starmer have stitched up
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and get grilled like this and be like yeah well you're supposed to turn up with like three or
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four talking points and just repeat them endlessly and pad them with filler you're not supposed to
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actually stop and think about the question because because there's no bloody answer to it yeah i
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mean like you know i disagree with miliband profoundly politically and on his you know
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policies and politics and whatnot but i don't think he's an evil man no he's just a weak man
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he's exactly yeah hell yeah i'm tough enough to stand up to putin i cared you know do you remember
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But like I said, he's not a part of the Epstein Network.
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He's very clearly being used as a meat shield
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while the Epstein Network is on manoeuvres behind the scenes,
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trying to essentially shore up their own position
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because Trump dropped this giant bomb on them by accident.
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because every single one of you is going to lose your seat.
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Yeah, because you're threatening a man with the election button.
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And if you turf him out, he'll just turf all you out.
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And also, Keir Starmer, not a career politician,
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Keir Starmer, does he have a network of patronage
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He'll just go back to campaigning to get child murders released
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If he doesn't just retire and do the speech circuit
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where he gets Boris Johnson paying half a million a bloody speech.
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Well, I mean, his prime minister's pension alone will cover him.
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you are the guys who are going to all get it in the neck and so um go away daily mail all your
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notifications uh dan hodges points out here like everyone loathes kiss armor like dan hodges goes
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around speaks to all the mps behind the scenes they all loathe him and they've all come to the
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conclusion that actually this avatar of the epstein network doesn't have our best interest
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at heart doesn't have the best interest of the labor party at heart and it's actually thrown so
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many of us under the bus that maybe yes maybe he's the problem but when like oh well if we if
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we don't do it now it's only a matter of time to when he's ousted not if it's like okay yeah but
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you have no good time i mean you don't want to do it for may the 7th because someone's going to be
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the gods of olympus have got together and decided that maybe chronos isn't acting in their interest
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yeah but yeah but i mean like at least the gods of olympus were capable because they had a zeus
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to overthrow croons right they don't have a zeus that their zeus is angela rayner it's like god
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right but it's a certain amount of time of when he's ousted it's like okay but now should be the
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time even but you know that they're thinking well the may 7th election is coming up we're going to
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get creamed we can't do it before then i don't think that should hold you if if you've got right
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option to become prime minister you just play it off say yeah that's starmer's fault you you just
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do it you don't try and you don't then try and mass because you don't then try and massage your
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timing getting to be prime minister of this country is bloody hard enough without trying to
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then massage the timing as well but also nobody's going to blame you like if you're like you know i
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had to throw kirsten around because of the epstein network and everything they've done and they're
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ruining the party i had to come along and save it oh yeah we got creamed in the may 7th elections
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yeah everyone knows because you were there for like two weeks the only thing it's not you the
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only thing is maybe they think it would just be easier to get rid of him after that they do think
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so but what this also does is give starmer time he needs time to keep shoring up his position and
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it's like because the thing is the dramatic shock of the may 7th elections has already happened
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everyone knows you know tomorrow the day after like yep you got you got screwed did you well
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we knew that was going to happen anyway moving on and so okay if not now then when right and so we
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are told by the telegraph here they are plotting a coup as they say backbench labor mps have told
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the telegraph the game is already up for the prime minister over his disastrous handling of the
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manderson vetting scandal a senior labor mp said i think there's going to be a process for replacing
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the prime minister it needs to be as quick as it can be tick tock like what are you doing like you
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say these things but starmer and hermer and the rest of the like his close confidence it's like
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no chest out we're gonna fight the next election and we're gonna win it and so the soft left can
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like oh no we we're all now gonna have our vote with no confidence or something no because starmer
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is just going to be like no you're not election bam you're all done i'm buggering off to some
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think tank or whatever i'm going to do yeah and i'm just going to literally nuke the lot of you
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right uh another senior mp said we can't be having months and months of speculation and leadership
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contests that just creates a lot of uncertainty for the country there's going to be change and
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labor party needs to work out how that would happen quickly so they want a coup they want to
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have a coup within this structure but the soft left are the useful idiots and they don't have
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but the and that whole thing it was over 40 grand a 40 grand stamp duty on a house i mean
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don't get me wrong that's a lot of money yeah you know but it's also stamp duty on a house
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it's not that she was she wasn't like mandelson taking money from the russians and the chinese
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or connected the network it's not the sort of thing that gets your back door burning no exactly
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it's totally trivial and yet like you say that's being walked out for a long time why can't you
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just pay that money and get on with it yes like come on what you know what's that what's the hold
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up here and also apparently uh starmer is just going to throw them under the bus right starmer
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doesn't get he's he's he's if the if the local elections are a bloodbath that's right rachel
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reeves again another soft left moron under the bus everything to protect the primacy of the epstein
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network in the prime minister's chair no not a civil servant not a not a soft left um member of
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the government yeah not morgan mcsweeney none of them will be spared starmer chucking them straight
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under the bus and and weirdly i mean okay we've now got to the position where uk bond yields are
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five percent which is higher than they were under the peak of the liz trust moment they're higher
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than they're constantly going about liz trust ruining it it's like well we're way past that
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so bonds are at five percent this we are in the you know the the alarm bell the smoke alarm is
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pinging at this point but weirdly the bond market actually quite like rachel reeves and that's not
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because they think that she's competent but they think that everyone else would be more
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incompetent than she is so if you appoint somebody else things could get lively on the on the
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financial front yeah and we're already at the point where the debt expenditure is rivaling
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the nhs spend yeah yeah it's mad it's mad the the country's on the edge of a meltdown oh yeah
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So anyway, I think what we've seen here is that there is a faction
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It's got rock-solid control of the administration of the country.
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It has the nuclear button in the general election.
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who are limping along thinking, well, we have to do something.
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None of them have a personal sort of magnetism or constituency.
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And any that might have done, Starmer has destroyed already.
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right so uh and kept out of the party and they're being used as useful idiots being chucked under
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the bus for this the corbynistas have been mostly expelled and sent to the green party or to your
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party which is and the hard left are the only the only faction that has the rival mental faculty
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will to power to fight yeah the will to power the soft left don't have a will to power corbynistas
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have the will to power but they've been expelled so they've gone to the green party uh and so what
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have you got left what the trade unions well farage has actually been flirting with them yeah
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they're off as well yeah they're off and i i watched an interview with the trade union boss
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the other day and farage was talking about how well you know we accept the trade unions are a
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fact of life and we're prepared to work with them it's like that's dangerous territory if you're
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labor isn't it we're going to use lose the unions and then i guess the last thing you've got is like
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blue labor under morris glassman who does nothing but go on tv and say starmer's terrible yeah that's
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not a real thing that's not a real thing that has no traction those any anyone who is like blue
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labor voter again they're already voting for the conservatives or reform they're already they're
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already voting reform so basically there's not a lot there's not much left in the labor party
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to actually resist and the coup of the soft left is never going to happen the lack of world's power
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core beliefs is now have no access to that because starma destroyed them and so it's like look i
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think that the epstein network is going to destroy the labor party forever and so three more years i
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say yeah and that's the end of labor forever well and it'd be useful for our thing because
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restore could actually do with those three years so absolutely so a bit of a shame for the country
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and bond yields and it's yeah but yeah but it's yeah like none of the other people would make
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things better no and it would just be like limping on for another election cycle oh god another five
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years of us not addressing the problems blah blah blah so so honestly i i think for the actual right
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this is good thing i think for the actual country just destroying the labor party because it's long
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past this prime and needs to go here is good anyway and i just think this is basically what's
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happening and i mean it's it's a quite exciting little game of thrones episode really shame it