The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1001

00:00:00.000 good afternoon ladies and gentlemen welcome to the podcast the lotus eaters for monday

00:00:14.160 bad news it's monday uh the 16th of september 2024 i'm joined by stelios and mark horton of

00:00:20.420 youtube channel not so obvious hello and today we are going to be talking about uh the second

00:00:26.040 assassination attempt on trump how labor are reaping what they've sown and how bill gates is

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00:00:56.580 on right about two months ago there was an assassination attempt against donald trump

00:01:02.780 in uh pennsylvania so two months afterwards there was a second assassination attempt

00:01:09.820 and uh this happened in his florida international trump international golf club and uh unlike the

00:01:16.700 previous time where there were two victims this time everyone is safe but things are really dangerous

00:01:22.000 and we are going to talk all about it before we say more about this we have a wonderful opportunity

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00:01:57.760 definitely check it let's move forward now yesterday at about 1 30 p.m in florida time

00:02:06.120 donald trump was playing in his golf club and uh there were some shots fired at him but

00:02:14.260 but uh thankfully he he is safe a lot of secret service agents protected him and they also found

00:02:22.480 the shooter they saw exactly where he was in the bushes and they started engaging with him and that

00:02:29.320 led to the shooter fleeing the scene and sometime afterwards they found him or at least found the

00:02:36.060 person who is allegedly the shooter by the license plates now we see here some footage from the gun and

00:02:43.220 the backpacks of the shooter that is in right in the bushes nearby the fence of the golf club and uh this

00:02:53.220 shows that the person fleeing the scene the shooter the would-be assassin had to leave

00:02:58.820 very quickly because he he left his gun there he left his gun there uh this appears to be an ak-47

00:03:06.440 we have backpacks and also they're saying that there were devices that uh for recording what is

00:03:13.400 going on gopro gopro yeah most probably the person wanted to make a big deal out of it i mean that goes

00:03:21.080 without saying but uh good things is that he missed and donald trump is alive right so we have

00:03:27.840 here the first post of donald trump after after the second assassination attempt he thanks everyone

00:03:34.860 he says that the sheriff rick bradshaw and the other secret service agents did a wonderful job

00:03:42.060 everyone is safe and uh he says the job was done absolutely outstanding and he's very proud to be an

00:03:49.520 american very trumpian yeah yeah ever always he uses you know outstanding great job oh yeah lovely job

00:03:56.460 trump basically lives in the iliad where everything is amazing yes yeah he's gonna say it's the best

00:04:02.500 assassination attempt the best there ever was but i'm just better yes and it's the second one that he

00:04:09.520 he misses so he is the orange bullet dodger yeah i mean we've still got a couple months yet so let's not 0.77

00:04:16.320 speak too soon well uh we have jd vance here saying i'm glad president trump is safe i spoke to him

00:04:24.120 before the news was public and he was amazingly in good spirits still much we don't know but i'll be

00:04:29.340 hugging my kids extra tight tonight and saying a prayer of gratitude i think that's a very wholesome

00:04:35.160 statement but also it conveys a kind of fear because this two assassination attempts against uh

00:04:42.920 someone who's running for president it's i don't think it has happened before has it happened well

00:04:47.860 i mean not in america this happens in mexico all the time yeah but the presumably the u.s isn't

00:04:54.660 like other countries so that that's that's the hope at least you say that a little a lot of people in

00:05:02.420 the u.s and a lot of people in western countries they look at what is going on in countries with let's

00:05:07.940 say where corruption reigns supreme and presumably they would say i don't want that for my country

00:05:13.420 well yeah but the rhetoric that the democrats use in america

00:05:16.360 unfortunately this is where the democrat rhetoric is leading it's incredible demonization and

00:05:25.480 polarization and it it it doesn't end well we are going to talk more about that now the alleged

00:05:32.780 shooter is the person called ryan wesley ruth everyone is talking about him and they have

00:05:40.260 found several interesting stuff about his past i saw that he has been um arrested multiple times

00:05:47.800 on violating several gun laws but he also has some interesting um points about ukraine he makes

00:05:57.100 some interesting points about ukraine if you see he tried he has appeared in a in a propaganda video

00:06:03.460 for the azov battalion the actual nazi battalion in ukraine well they you can see here we play this

00:06:10.340 without a sound where and they are saying we are here he is like the azov battalion are actually the

00:06:18.500 nazi battalion well they have definitely questionable people among amidst the rank questionable i don't

00:06:26.480 i don't think i don't think we need to equivocate all that much with them okay yeah i mean i'm cautious

00:06:31.700 for i appreciate a caution sake and also for uh for the platforms we want to put this now here he

00:06:39.300 appeared on the romanian newsweek and he was saying how he wants to basically recruit people for to fight

00:06:46.440 for ukraine he was particularly aggrieved because the ukrainians did not allow him to join their ranks

00:06:54.660 he looks quite old right he looks quite old here he's 56 now he's 58 i think he was born in february

00:07:01.960 1966 right and he seems to be a bit childish in his mentality he basically says that this war is

00:07:10.740 as close to good versus evil as it can get and yeah he's particularly surprised now at 56 year old

00:07:20.160 people didn't just rush all of them to say we're gonna give all the money we have to get vests for

00:07:26.480 ukraine i mean i don't like zielinski either but he's not that joke he also before his uh twitter

00:07:34.280 accounts and various social medias were archived you look down and it's him petitioning various

00:07:40.640 members of governments at various different levels uh it's the sort of messaging that you would expect

00:07:46.220 in private between a contractor and a government official he seems to have projected a kind of uh

00:07:52.640 a relationship that he has with government officials that doesn't exist and it's possibly

00:07:58.760 a motivating factor here a lot of people are showing stuff about his x account that got suspended

00:08:05.440 and uh what you can find that i mean i will say because there are other stuff i don't think we should

00:08:10.920 say but um he was constantly tagging several artists asking them to write songs about ukraine

00:08:19.780 but he was also talking to kamala harris and saying you need to also have your uh rename your campaign

00:08:26.980 to kadhaf and we'll talk in a bit about what he is he seems very caught up in the current thing

00:08:31.380 yes yep unfortunately and we've seen a lot of people who are uh doing a lot of harmful things

00:08:38.900 caught up in the in the latest trend i remember who was it who killed himself who set fire on him

00:08:45.060 i can't remember the guy's name but i know you're talking about the guy who set fire to himself in

00:08:48.620 front of the embassy uh for palestine yes now there are several interesting questions that arise

00:08:53.340 because it seems that donald trump's golf club was a spontaneous trip trip a spontaneous event right

00:09:02.520 so how if he wasn't on the schedule how did he know he was there that's exactly the question and

00:09:08.200 i'm i don't have any answer but it's a very interesting question i think and it led trump to

00:09:13.960 have a meeting with and to request a meeting with a lot of people from the secret services they

00:09:19.700 essentially told him that because he is not the president he doesn't have the amount of secret

00:09:25.020 service that he will be required to protect him from repeated assassination attempts well i mean they

00:09:31.280 did protect him to to be fair but a lot of people are asking and this is the this is the the major

00:09:37.560 question how is it that something like that could happen because the shooter was at an estimated

00:09:45.160 distance between 300 and 50 hundred yards and it was just a fence yeah it was a fence in the bushes

00:09:52.660 and it wasn't protected so how did he get there there are several questions about the secret service and

00:10:00.140 also if we remember what happened two months ago there are also several questions about the kind of

00:10:05.640 people involved in it and that's uh let's talk about how was the shooter able to get on a roof of the

00:10:11.280 direct line of sight to the president yes question how was a shooter able to get through a thin wire

00:10:16.500 fence to the exact hole that trump would happen to be at his spontaneous golfing trip really does

00:10:20.700 make you wonder doesn't it and also how some obviously unqualified people to be uh bodyguards

00:10:25.840 ended up being bodyguards honestly remember the di hard means yes i unironically think that if trump

00:10:32.320 just had a bodyguard bodyguard um deputation from just his most fervent patriotic supporters they'd do a

00:10:40.360 better job well because there are several questions and several uh interesting questions

00:10:46.480 that people raise ron desantis who is the governor of florida said that he is going to conduct an

00:10:52.120 independent state level inquiry into the matter good man and he says that people deserve the truth about

00:10:59.060 the would-be assassin and how he was able to get within 500 yards of the former president and current

00:11:04.340 gop nominee with a gun it's one thing getting within like x-mile distance but he's carrying a rifle

00:11:10.840 yeah i mean you would expect the media coverage to not be particularly um good on this topic they

00:11:19.620 weren't good last time and they are referring to it as an incident some of them so nbc featured an

00:11:26.520 article with the title man in custody after trump golf club incident was once convicted of possessing

00:11:33.460 a machine gun this man was identified previously in the history he had a gun but it was just an

00:11:40.180 incident at the golf club yes and let me just show here because i want to be uh i want to show you

00:11:46.320 everything they do refer to this as a second attempt to assassinate former president donald trump

00:11:51.920 but not on the title because they know that people see the titles and don't read the text exactly

00:11:56.820 right so we also have here the bbc referring to it as an your favorite channel yeah well this is

00:12:03.440 how i knew it was yeah right because the the fbi are like oh well it appears to be and it's like

00:12:08.020 right okay someone's trying to kill him got it

00:12:09.580 here we have a friend of the show sebastian gorka essentially being cancelled from uh from being shut

00:12:20.580 down from sky news because he he was phoning he was talking about the incident and uh the reporter

00:12:27.640 didn't particularly like what sebastian gorka had to say and they essentially cut him down and what

00:12:34.920 he was saying basically is that the people who are constantly now saying we don't we condemn political

00:12:41.360 violence and they are saying we're so sorry for what happened he says that he doesn't believe them

00:12:46.920 well because they're not sorry they spend all day every day demonizing him calling him a nazi

00:12:53.300 exactly i mean and them reading a prepared statement is not exactly sincere yeah i mean if they make a

00:12:59.700 habit out of demonizing him and then when something happens they say well we contempt we condemn the

00:13:04.980 effects of this demonization it doesn't sound particularly i'd literally call them a threat to the soul of

00:13:10.380 the nation yeah how much more condemning can it be if you wanted to inspire stochastic terrorism 1.00

00:13:17.040 that's the kind of statement you would make exactly and harris continues that tradition 100 yeah

00:13:23.100 right we also have here just hours after the second assassination attempt on president trump and cbs

00:13:29.680 is using their 60 minutes to talk about uh january 6th the 6th and the threat to democracy posed by it

00:13:37.400 and they say yeah he's just a threat to democracy he's just gonna be a dictator which is what they

00:13:42.500 say all day every day i mean you the was it time magazine photoshopped him as hitler on their magazine

00:13:48.320 and stuff like this okay nbc also put out a piece where they said they condemned his fiery rhetoric for

00:13:54.660 potentially inspiring the act ah yes trump did this to himself and as we will we will see there is a lot

00:14:03.920 of that rhetoric and even more so from coming from the other side right we also have here from

00:14:10.080 razor fist here's the thing democrats are saying nothing to go people into trying to assassinate

00:14:14.960 trump yeah this i particularly despise this chap's tweet here yeah they're saying nothing to go people

00:14:21.380 and trying to assassinate trump their rhetoric against trump is actually far less hysterical than 2016 to

00:14:25.820 2020 so whoa whoa whoa like sorry forbes like biden says bullseye comment about trump was a mistake

00:14:33.120 yeah because it implied that he wanted him shot necessary congressman don't miss next time and

00:14:37.980 then of course you've got the uh the culture industry being like don't miss next time i don't know why

00:14:43.500 that one yeah that's from tenacious d yeah and then kathy griffin no that's 2016 yeah that's the old

00:14:49.020 one but it's the the point being this has been a very consistent through line in their commentary on 0.98

00:14:54.560 donald trump which is god i hope he dies yeah i hope someone kills him but this is interesting 0.97

00:15:00.000 because it shows a lot of double standards when it comes to the overton window because we frequently 0.99

00:15:04.400 talk about the overton window on on the right but we don't talk about the overton window on the left

00:15:09.320 and it seems that this kind of rhetoric is just completely normalized totally i mean look at this

00:15:14.840 guy's response he tweeted that and obviously a lot of people like um that's not on and so he was

00:15:20.220 like right always will be extremely mad at me for saying this but trump's trump keep get keeps getting

00:15:24.920 shot at because his own rhetoric creates a violent atmosphere not because the dems are doing anything

00:15:29.980 to place his safety at risk just all right well we're just dealing with liars people who are lying 0.52

00:15:35.420 constantly non-stop and will never take responsibility for their own actions and the

00:15:40.020 things they've done it's the extra line at the end there if he toned things down if he cucked to us

00:15:44.960 yeah if he did what we wanted him to do if he was kamala trump we wouldn't then we wouldn't be in

00:15:51.240 this situation constantly calling him hitler and saying he's going to be a dictator and that he should 0.79

00:15:56.240 be assassinated yeah that's just do as we say and we won't get you killed is the position of the 0.86

00:16:02.200 democrats at this point it's kind of gentler politics carl it's very be kind yeah yes and if you

00:16:08.320 see here the if he toned things down he'd be less likely to get shot at shifts the responsibility

00:16:13.560 from the shooters to himself it's like it's like what when a lot of people are doing about women

00:16:19.620 they say well if they didn't dress that way they wouldn't get they wouldn't get assaulted

00:16:23.540 right we have here someone again again david from of course david from had to come out and

00:16:31.260 be in defense of the shooter and we have a very good response by donald trump jr david from says

00:16:36.980 trump and his running mate have spent the past week successfully inciting violence in springfield

00:16:42.380 ohio today they want sorry just how just pause it what was this what was the violence they incited

00:16:48.120 okay i think it has to do with cats because cats are the largest predator on on on earth so unless

00:16:53.800 people eat cats their their hunt is going to continue right but the the point is i'm not aware

00:16:59.500 of any violence that has come up in springfield ohio because of trump are you there aren't roving

00:17:04.080 gangs of people hunting haitians in the street like the haitians hunting the cats i just want to be 0.97

00:17:09.980 clear uh as of recording those haitians were hunting geese not cats oh according to the attorney

00:17:15.640 general of ohio uh sorry carry on right now we're going to kamala harris's i don't want to spread fake

00:17:24.920 news no eternal attorney general of ohio said no they were hunting geese not cats it's very oh fair

00:17:30.300 enough but my point is is that they keep going inciting violence this is also a way to avoid them

00:17:35.740 repeating what trump has said or vance has said yeah right because this is what always happens

00:17:41.360 especially in this country it's a little bit of an aside but whenever you see someone who is

00:17:45.460 arrested for inciting hate or whatever uh in this country what you find is they never give you the

00:17:51.440 actual context of the tweet or the facebook post or whatever it is that they've arrested them on or

00:17:55.640 even the direct or even the direct text so that's they you don't get the raw text so that you they

00:17:59.900 don't continue to spread the message but at the same time that makes it completely nebulous

00:18:04.520 which makes inciting violence in this case a complete non-issue because there's no there's

00:18:09.960 no evidence of it because we couldn't state the evidence because that's dangerous well it's

00:18:13.760 essentially appealed to their own authority yeah but also take the word for it i have cats and dogs

00:18:19.720 and i don't want to risk it and i understand people who don't right here we have kamala harris's

00:18:24.940 statement saying uh how she is deeply disturbed by the possible assassination attempt of former

00:18:30.960 president trump as we gather the facts i will be clear i condemn political violence we all must do

00:18:36.960 our part to ensure that this incident does not lead to more violence and she has a statement here just 0.96

00:18:42.580 how more hypocritical can you get how more hypocritical can you get all the rhetoric of 0.94

00:18:51.380 the democrats the u.s democrats is progressivism progressivism is just institutionalized bigotry 0.99

00:18:58.040 yeah there's a lot of people being like to be fair you are calling him a dictator all the time

00:19:04.460 yes this entire statement reads very differently to vance's response right it comes it's it's almost a

00:19:12.140 flex because it's sitting there and it's going it's not they're not in fear of being assassinated

00:19:18.420 themselves they're not in fear of political violence they're condemning the political violence for

00:19:23.400 their opponents because they they feel that they're on the pedestal whereas advance is sitting there

00:19:28.720 going they targeted my running mate twice i could be next on the block the left doesn't feel like that

00:19:35.280 about themselves that's a great point it's a real statement about the texture of the sort of milieu

00:19:42.080 they both exist in the democrats have the whip hand in this situation and they know it and so it's like

00:19:47.900 well i'm i'm so glad that he's safe through gritted teeth yes and also i i think you're raising a

00:19:55.020 really good point because it seems to me that a lot of people on the left they they really want a

00:19:59.340 martyr for their cause and it's really refreshing when you see someone say no i don't want i don't want

00:20:04.760 my running mate to be to become a martyr i want to actually improve things and and make the make

00:20:10.220 the country better yeah i thought the tone of answers uh response was very good yes here we have the

00:20:15.900 post ryan uh wesley ruth uh wrote to kamala harris your campaign should be called something like

00:20:24.880 kadhaf keep america democratic and free trump's should be massa make american slave again 0.73

00:20:31.680 okay yeah democracy is on the ballot and we cannot lose we cannot afford to fail the world is counting

00:20:39.720 on us to show our way i mean to be fair he made a good point which is why we live under a trump

00:20:43.820 dictatorship to this day oh wait we don't nonsense nonsense i hate this democracy is on the ballot

00:20:50.380 shut up yeah by the people who constantly just normalize demonizing demonizing your opponents and

00:20:57.980 trivializing violence against them i mean come on that's rich i mean if you're voting on the dictator 0.93

00:21:03.740 it's not really much of a dictatorship is it if we want to bring up the fact that the democrats

00:21:09.720 have probably statistically challenged the democratic results of elections more than the republicans in

00:21:16.280 the past as well and the thing is i'm totally fine with people challenging the results of elections

00:21:20.280 yeah me too i think that's a great thing and almost everything should be double checked

00:21:25.560 it's like it's it's like in in football where we have the var a lot of people contest the referees

00:21:31.240 and they say okay let's let's defer judgment to the var i don't know see if someone is offside

00:21:37.400 makes no i i have no idea what i don't know what the var is i don't watch football i'm sorry i'm

00:21:43.960 middle class it's not even that i just don't find that interesting right and here we have the obvious

00:21:50.760 point that christopher rufo made two months ago and it's absolutely active oh sorry it's the new

00:21:56.760 republic not time magazine although time magazine may have also they they did something recently where

00:22:00.680 he was riding towards the white house and it looked like he was going into mordor to challenge

00:22:06.600 mount doom it was amazing absolutely the people who have been pushing this must be held yes it's

00:22:13.080 okay to compare trump to hitler don't let me stop you oh thank you new york times just yeah that's what

00:22:19.720 i find infuriating about this kind of uh rhetoric that the us democrats are putting forward it is

00:22:25.800 absolute bigotry in the name of fighting bigotry it's it's also anti-white racism in the name of

00:22:31.560 fighting racism you don't understand stelios you can't be tolerant of intolerance that's why you've

00:22:36.760 got to be more intolerant exactly and also that's what makes us tolerant exactly and at least we feel bad

00:22:43.640 about it i don't know they do i don't think they feel bad about their intolerance at all i think they

00:22:48.520 feel completely righteous when they're doing it yeah because it's it's not even saying that you know when you

00:22:54.680 have to do some some bad things it's just necessary evil they're cheering about it

00:23:02.360 there's no shame in them at all exactly no but it's just i think the the point of stochastic terrorism 0.99

00:23:08.200 if you're radicalizing all the time and you're demonizing your opponent and his supporters and

00:23:13.880 you're essentially saying that this person and his supporters are responsible for just every ill on earth

00:23:21.720 yeah you're going to demonize them people are going to be radicalized against them people are

00:23:27.080 going to see them as people who should be deprived of their rights as mark pointed out the left calls

00:23:32.200 this stochastic terrorism which is just an increased likelihood that terroristic acts will happen towards

00:23:37.720 the subject of the rhetoric and if the left wants to use that as the standard okay well yes look at what

00:23:43.400 yes look at what we're doing exactly and they need actually a mirror they need to do some criticism

00:23:48.840 some self-criticism because very frequently you could say about a thousand percent of the times

00:23:56.360 when leftists are accusing rightists of stuff they're projecting thing is a lot of that reminds

00:24:01.000 me of sort of like teach them not to rape and so look i don't actually think that the responsibility for

00:24:07.080 making sure that people don't get raped should be in the hands of a rapist actually i actually think that

00:24:12.120 that's the person most likely to do the raping so i have the people who aren't going to rape 1.00

00:24:16.520 should be the ones preventing the rapists yeah but have you thought of the rapists human rights no

00:24:21.080 because i don't believe them but but they will i think they need to be scourged start saying sure

00:24:28.120 but the rights and stuff yeah i mean it's crazy the point is i don't think we can you know democrats 0.98

00:24:34.280 shouldn't you have some self-reflection no they're mental and evil and want you dead they're also 0.92

00:24:39.240 incapable of it they they will think about you you know there's on the one hand condemn you for 0.99

00:24:44.920 uh basically dehumanizing trans people and on the other hand they will say that all maga voters 0.85

00:24:51.640 are bumbling hicks who live in the country and streak moonshine and racist and then and when you 0.93

00:24:57.800 get shot the blood yeah well look at what you made us do yeah it's like sorry but also when when 0.99

00:25:03.720 they're talking about dehumanization when they're talking about you know the transgender community

00:25:10.200 they think essentially that disagreeing with any mind any small part of someone's self-conception is

00:25:17.800 dehumanization which really is not the case and here we have two and a half minutes of democrats

00:25:23.720 explicitly calling for uh the use of uh explicitly trivializing violence against trump you we you can all

00:25:32.360 you can visit a website and watch it it's every everyone knows this if you think you have to

00:25:38.360 repeat this knowledge visit the website click on the link we have it right well with that let's move

00:25:46.280 over to our side of the atlantic so let's talk about how labor is beginning to reap what they have sown

00:25:53.320 you know what it's so much fun sewing sewing is great i'm just casting out this is brilliant

00:25:58.440 joy all day and then when the fruits of what you have sown come back to bite you and you have to

00:26:05.320 reap them well that's not so fun so i mean like look look at just say the channel crossings okay so

00:26:11.000 there was a week but there was basically no channel crossings because the weather was bad and then boom

00:26:16.280 weather clears up 800 in a day brilliant so can the labor stop the channel crossings no no we can't stop

00:26:21.960 the channel crossings but we can ban smoking outdoors in pubs right i'll even stand outside the pub and

00:26:30.040 have a cigarette great good to know so the public finances are in a total mess 22 billion black hole

00:26:35.720 so maybe we could stop pissing away money on foreign boondoggles no best we can do is 3 billion a year 0.67

00:26:41.400 for ukraine for as long as it takes actually so only 22 billion were down don't worry about it right oh yeah

00:26:47.560 and we're going to start world war three by the way keir starmer as robert peston points out is

00:26:52.440 currently lobbying overdrive with nato allies to get the uh the allies to be able to stop shelling

00:26:59.880 moscow uh interestingly it was biden who was like no i'm not going to do that believe it or not biden

00:27:06.280 was the restraining force on keir starmer's desire to start world war three i like the idea that one

00:27:11.320 tiny nugget of his youth like he retained lucidity came back to him for a moment and he was like

00:27:16.600 no and then it went away again and he just sort of sat down yeah just just like some sort of eldest

00:27:23.080 elder figure just no um anyway so we're not going to get world war three at least yet even though

00:27:31.000 starmer's really doing his best to stoke it so okay well what what are you going to do for us what

00:27:35.080 you are we're going to raise your taxes it's going to be a painful budget by the way you raise taxes

00:27:40.120 freeze granny to death and uh blame the conservatives for the for the problem so right okay 1.00

00:27:46.440 okay right that's that's good glad to see it now unsurprisingly none of this has been very popular

00:27:53.480 with the british public uh when the latest polls come out oh thank you uh guardian for giving us a

00:27:59.720 nice rundown here uh labor have sunk from what were they on 39 something like that about six months ago

00:28:07.400 uh and now they're on 29 so barely ahead of the conservatives whom and i do agree with them

00:28:12.840 actually are basically responsible for all of the problems i've inherited but what's interesting

00:28:17.480 is that reform are only on 18 percent they're not actively uh capitalizing on all of the problems

00:28:24.840 that they have been uh presented with and from a political position you would think reform be like

00:28:30.200 okay the ground is as clear as it's ever going to be all of our opponents are useless much more vocal

00:28:35.240 about stuff they could be and for some reason they've been a little bit supine recently and i don't

00:28:39.960 really understand why but as you can see uh none of the parties are popular with the public basically

00:28:45.160 is it's what you can take from this what i what i want to know is i know that this poll is 2 000

00:28:50.760 people which they'll claim is a nationally representative sample uh and we know we have

00:28:55.160 our own opinions on polls polls are polls but my point it's a quick thing though the polls are

00:29:00.520 showing repeatedly yes absolutely so but my point is is that we don't really have an idea of how many

00:29:07.800 people are checked out we we have the turnout from the previous general election but that presumably

00:29:13.640 given that labor have dropped 10 and no one appears to really be picking up loads of the slack

00:29:21.480 that means that there's a huge number of people who also still have checked out again so we've got

00:29:25.640 checked out people from the tories we've got checked out people now from labor um the lib dems

00:29:30.600 aren't sweeping it all up so how many people are there actually to capture and then how can they be

00:29:37.240 captured because it needs to be because otherwise we're dealing with the minority governments 1.00

00:29:43.400 that have been elected by minority electorate i mean we absolutely are there's only uh 59 of

00:29:49.480 voters who voted in the last election and labor only got 34 of them giving them about 20 of the

00:29:55.000 entire electorate to form this whopping government but also usually it is usually the case that in the

00:30:01.640 first two months or three months after one gets elected there is a grace period yeah that just

00:30:08.440 isn't yeah but kirstama kirstama came out and was like i hate you and i'm going to give all your 0.81

00:30:14.200 money away he really hates pubs and i not just not just he hates the people in them that's who he hates

00:30:20.280 the only way he could have become less popular is if he had come out of downing street flipped the

00:30:25.720 middle finger to all of the journalists and then started beating civilians in the street with a

00:30:29.800 baseball bat i don't know i mean maybe that might have done better than what he's doing now

00:30:34.600 but it is starmer's personal popularity that's on the wane as well um i mean they're still

00:30:41.560 technically more popular than conservatives but uh not by much and keir starmer himself

00:30:47.800 is a particularly unpopular figure but the thing is he's come to he's just come to peace with it

00:30:53.000 labor have just been like okay well we're just going to accept that we're unpopular you know we're

00:30:58.920 just gonna have to on the face of it i'm not opposed to a government that's happy being

00:31:03.720 relatively unpopular if they were doing the right things instead of murdering pensioners 0.93

00:31:10.920 interestingly i haven't included it but they're gonna fast track assisted dying through parliament

00:31:15.480 so the ones who survive we offered the option to take the easy way out instead of another winter

00:31:20.600 so jack frost didn't get you but keir starmer's nhs absolutely will um incredible but i mean you've

00:31:26.600 got to remember from their perspective they view this as purely a budgetary issue um so this is a

00:31:32.040 two-for-one for them either the old people die of the cold or they just get murdered by the nhs 0.94

00:31:36.760 alleviating the burden either way um so anyway you may remember that they were saying well we're not

00:31:43.400 going to have uh corruption we're going to restore faith in politics and trust to the political system

00:31:49.640 so when it turned out that david lammy was getting 200 grand from second jobs keir starmer was like

00:31:53.400 well it's just just part of the political process it's just the way things work it's like okay you

00:31:57.720 know what i actually agree with that yeah it probably is a part of the political process it

00:32:01.240 probably is part of the way things work which is why it seems a bit hypocritical when you're like

00:32:06.280 yeah but we're not going to allow mps to make media appearances specifically because of course

00:32:12.680 there's one particular mp who's very popular in the media and makes a lot of money out of it and

00:32:17.240 he disagrees with us on things so this appears to be a rule that's going to be targeting farage

00:32:25.000 specifically then explicitly going after his political opponents so okay fine fair enough

00:32:31.880 uh okay the mps won't be allowed to have talk shows or anything like that anymore okay i mean whatever 0.90

00:32:39.640 the really stupid thing with this is uh after nigel farage posted uh his expenses and explained 0.81

00:32:47.560 that he was being paid this much he also explained that this was basically not just him it was about 0.98

00:32:53.400 five people in his company that were being paid and therefore that money was going to the company

00:32:58.760 so all that they've basically forced him to do is relinquish ownership of the company but that

00:33:02.600 company will still be paid he will still be paid but it will be paid through a different means

00:33:07.080 possibly but the the thing i hate about this is the kind of in fact we'll get to the the envy um

00:33:13.240 about this okay so david lammy will be allowed to collect his 200 grand a year but nigel farage

00:33:18.440 won't be allowed to host the gb news show because that's how fairness works um but moving on you may

00:33:24.840 remember in 2021 where kirstarmer was like boris you're taking money from donors aren't you it's been

00:33:33.240 widely reported that lord brownlow who just happens to be given a peerage by the conservative party

00:33:39.800 was asked to donate 58 000 pounds to help repay for the cost of this refurbishment

00:33:45.080 can the prime minister if he's so keen to answer confirm did lord brownlow make that payment for that

00:33:51.800 purpose and yes he did of course they refurbished 10 downing street or wherever it was um and okay

00:33:59.880 fair enough starmer prosecutorially going after him but it turns out the kiss armor does the same thing

00:34:05.800 it's just that he gets a a lord to buy his wife quote 76 000 pounds worth of entertainment clothes and 1.00

00:34:13.800 other free items more than almost any other mp says the times which is interesting uh one questioned why

00:34:21.240 starmer needed the funds given he lives rent free in number 10 and a townhouse in kentish town in

00:34:26.280 northwest london and does not send his children to private school which is very selfish why wouldn't

00:34:31.880 you've got all that money i mean i suppose that if he had a dying relative he wouldn't he was stuck

00:34:36.680 on the nhs waiting list he was private so i mean don't get me wrong he is the as as much the zealot as

00:34:41.720 you might think he also earned 100 grand in private consultancy fees for a law firm called

00:34:46.440 mishkon derea after stepping down as director of public prosecutions and ali the lord has uh given

00:34:52.440 almost a million pounds to the party over the past two decades although 500 000 pound of that has been

00:34:57.480 donated since 2020 so he doesn't love spending his own money like golem in the ring it's just it's just 0.99

00:35:06.200 kind of crazy it's like okay you are just a liar you are as much of a liar as the previous guy who you 0.99

00:35:13.160 were castigating okay fair enough like you know politics is a dirty business everyone in it has 0.99

00:35:18.360 got their hands dirty okay and you were exactly like he doesn't like spending his own money that's

00:35:24.680 a good point because david lammy you remember he was just defending david lammy over his 200 000

00:35:29.720 pound a year okay fair enough i mean i don't mind that david lammy earns money but uh so lammy came

00:35:34.360 out and was like well i mean the taxpayer doesn't provide a clothes budget for his wife he's on 160

00:35:40.040 000 pounds and he gets 100 grand in consulting fees and various things that would be patronizing

00:35:45.960 wouldn't it yeah it's like telling your wife you don't make you don't have money so you don't buy

00:35:50.920 your own clothes yeah we're only on 160 grand rishi had however many millions we're broke darling

00:35:57.720 why why can't she just buy her own she just buy her own clothes this is i love does the taxpayer have to

00:36:03.480 do it i even love that they sent david lamianus a man who was famous for expensing jaffa cakes at

00:36:09.240 his office in london amazing i mean what's interesting is all the all whenever you see

00:36:13.640 the expenses all the labor mps claiming maximal expenses about 250 grand a year just so you know

00:36:19.320 um incredible incredible take from the world's brightest foreign secretary um

00:36:26.520 so you remember lord ali as well just a quick thing on this uh you remember how he had access

00:36:31.720 to 10 downing street as well by the way uh he uh caused astonishment shortly after the election when

00:36:36.040 he acquired a number 10 security pass and used it to host about 50 donors and other guests at a

00:36:40.840 party in downing street garden and number 10 was initially unable to explain the reason for the

00:36:44.600 access really the reason is obviously he bought it he bought the access come on pay for the card

00:36:51.160 starmer later said that ali was helping with the transition into government it's like oh really okay

00:36:56.680 all right so i think we can agree that the labor party is at equally as corrupt as the conservative

00:37:02.680 party it's just the way the uni party does politics they do it via this kind of pay for play corruption

00:37:09.320 that's fine so at least we have citizen activist organizations who are holding the government to

00:37:17.000 account you know like that famous led by donkeys active organization who decided that what they were

00:37:23.800 going to do is post a new billboard in clacton we've booked this for six months we'll update it every

00:37:28.840 time the new register of members interest is published because nigel farage earned 132 713

00:37:34.600 pounds from second jobs in his first month's mp oh no wait wait that oh that was legal right he

00:37:43.080 legally owned right okay so i assume he didn't pay taxes on it no he did pay taxes on it right so this

00:37:48.760 is not a crime this is not corruption this is nigel farage being successful this was a crime because it 0.95

00:37:57.880 was undeclared but this is what you put the billboard up against this was the prime minister

00:38:03.640 taking donations this is an mp who is successful you we can't expect this at any point in the future

00:38:12.360 is all i'm saying right we're not going to see him actually being held to account they are just

00:38:17.240 partisan organs of the labor party pretending as if they're not i honestly i can't stand them i can't 0.98

00:38:24.840 stand this bloody like craft beer drinking middle class shit lib thinking that this is something that 0.98

00:38:31.800 bothers people i bet that the people of clacton is just like oh good for him yeah what what law did 0.99

00:38:36.920 he break what who did he who did he they're just they're just confused as in not the led by donkeys

00:38:43.480 people anyone who reads that billboard who's not an insane raving leftist is just confused why am i

00:38:49.000 being given this information it doesn't make any sense and the thing is the the the middle class 0.98

00:38:54.840 shit lib thinks well you must be deeply envious and therefore hate this man for earning that amount 0.94

00:38:58.600 money it's like no why i'm not a socialist why would i be only socialists hate when people earn lots of 0.95

00:39:05.000 money interestingly again the reason i don't care about david lammy's income it's i'm not envious of

00:39:10.360 david they're also got you know has he uh been remiss in his duties as an mp no he has been out in clacton

00:39:17.400 uh has he done anything dodgy to get that money as in has he abused anyone has he done anything

00:39:23.640 has he defrauded anyone has he stolen it no no has he done anything illegal no unlike yeah i'm like

00:39:29.400 kirstama kirstama it's it's incredible absolutely incredible they don't care they don't care that's

00:39:34.520 the point this is the point like this is never something you will see from this it is entirely an

00:39:39.800 act of two minutes hate 100 and it's and this is why they were like bullying liz trust and things

00:39:44.760 like that so liz trust isn't the prime minister kirstama's stealing money from pensioners to make 1.00

00:39:48.840 sure they freeze like do you care no you don't care liz trust and a lettuce oh who cares anyway

00:39:55.560 so there is one thing in which the labor party can't control and that is public opinion that is 0.92

00:40:03.880 people hate kirstama they hate him because he and his party are evil traitors and they're trying to 0.73

00:40:10.680 ruin us and so when kia goes to a doncaster race course well let's just watch 0.61

00:40:24.840 i mean the way i see him he it's like he's making an active effort to be disliked yeah but he tries

00:40:33.320 to be disliked you've got to remember that's only because starmer is an actual psychopath who doesn't

00:40:38.440 have an internal monologue or dreams or the capacity to empathize with human beings unless

00:40:44.200 they're child murderers on death row it's just a pure adversarial thing yeah i can't remember where

00:40:50.360 i saw this someone was pointing out look the fact that starmer and kamala harris are prosecutors is 0.72

00:40:55.560 concerning because a prosecutor only has to care about their own side of the case uh they are specifically

00:41:00.680 employed not to worry about the other side of the case in fact they're designed to destroy it and

00:41:05.160 therefore having one as the prime minister or president of a country where you have to rule

00:41:10.440 everyone is a particularly dangerous thing because they treat people who disagree with them as

00:41:14.920 prosecutorial adversary it's like being a legal terminator yes starlin uh stalin starmer's case

00:41:22.920 uh a literal terminator sent from the future to destroy us um anyway so uh it wasn't just kia 0.80

00:41:28.760 starmer who's getting booed at public events uh this is extended to other members of the labor party

00:41:34.040 for example rushmore labor mp alex baker she was going to go to a local pub and uh she well got a

00:41:41.160 warm reception

00:41:58.760 rush more people first 1.00

00:42:00.280 as of course you can see there people are aware that the pension payments are being stolen they're

00:42:10.360 aware that she uh advocated to have uh illegal migrants put up in hotels at taxpayer expense and

00:42:17.080 then she thought like the rest of the labor party thought that after stabbing us in the back after

00:42:23.240 calling us far right evil nasty thugs whatever they're calling us they could then just come and mingle and

00:42:28.520 live among us as if we don't feel the knife in the back like no this you deserve this and this isn't 0.82

00:42:35.080 going to stop whilst you are busy betraying the british public they're not going to they're not

00:42:39.560 going to want you hanging around them you're not a respected pillar of the community you are an

00:42:44.440 occupying force that we want to get rid of reportedly after this uh exchange she did sit down in that

00:42:52.280 restaurant she did still eight i don't know shamelessness yeah i don't know how i couldn't do

00:42:57.880 that if i was a representative of people and they came to me and and were booing me and saying uh our

00:43:03.720 people first because they didn't feel represented i'd feel disgusted with myself yes absolutely horrific

00:43:10.440 i couldn't but also i mean just imagine she goes somewhere where she's booed and she orders there yeah 1.00

00:43:18.040 i mean if if i were there i would say just what are they going to do to my food in the kitchen

00:43:23.400 what are they going to do to my beer i mean i've left multiple places because i i'm just looking at

00:43:29.400 the kitchen and it wasn't particularly good imagine if you're a politician and people actually dislike

00:43:34.360 you exactly much being that hated yeah and actually uh i've been to the pub that uh keir starmer wasn't

00:43:40.280 particularly welcome oh yeah that was in bristol or bath i think in bath yeah yeah but that was over his

00:43:46.040 covid policies but um she's you know exactly as not as uh you would expect from any uh labor mp

00:43:53.800 she opposed pensioners getting the wind fuel she's in favor of you know the green nonsense 1.00

00:43:59.000 blah blah and so she put out this statement which is just incredible again just tone deaf 0.61

00:44:04.200 misreading of the situation it's disappointing that some people feel it's okay to behave like this

00:44:09.560 especially when they see me out for lunch with my young family i'll always be ready to discuss the

00:44:14.120 issues that matter most to my neighbors but this behavior gets us nowhere and i will not be 0.98

00:44:17.960 intimidated like they don't they just don't want you hanging around them you are a traitor you are 0.61

00:44:23.000 putting illegal migrants up in lovely hotels i have to pay hundreds of pounds every night to stay in 1.00

00:44:29.480 with my money that's what they're angry at they're like my gran i'm going to have to give her money 0.95

00:44:35.800 out of my pocket to make sure she doesn't die this winter that's what they're upset about you absolute

00:44:41.480 traitor i can't get over and they say well well can't be honest no no people don't want to just 0.69

00:44:47.240 live around traits they don't want to spend their time with you swanning around in their institution 0.56

00:44:51.640 it's not surprising you're getting booed it's not surprising at all i've got no sympathy whatsoever

00:44:57.560 right and i'm gonna i'm gonna finish this with a little quote from my article in islander which i

00:45:02.200 think actually really summarizes this this is the article lifting the veil and this is just the last

00:45:06.680 paragraph and i think what i've done here is presage where politics in britain is going right

00:45:13.320 i said quote we must prepare accordingly for what comes next our hearts must harden against the traitors

00:45:17.800 who created this state of affairs all of them we do actually still possess electoral power and

00:45:22.680 demographic might we must accept that we may need to hold our noses and choose parties and people we

00:45:29.080 might not have desired under different circumstances but the situation has forced our hands there will be

00:45:34.280 great outrage from the liberal order but calmly and resolutely we must inform them that the saxon has

00:45:40.920 made his decision and that's what you're getting people do not want you in their pubs they don't want to 0.88

00:45:46.840 see you hanging around they don't want to be social with you because you are a traitor anyway go and buy

00:45:52.120 islander it's really good that's just the last bit of my article every article in there is amazing but 0.84

00:45:57.000 i really mean this like democratically you guys are done like the next election nigel farage better get 0.89

00:46:03.240 his bloody act together he needs to become the wartime prime minister absolutely does and he needs

00:46:08.200 to just obliterate you in every single constituency anyway like i said go get islander it's amazing and 0.73

00:46:14.520 we're totally on the ball we're totally on the money well i wrote that probably three months ago

00:46:18.840 something like that and boom here it is the saxon has made his decision we'll leave that there

00:46:25.400 fabulous should we read uh some of the yes we should i completely forgot yeah i completely forgot to

00:46:31.880 it um uh dragon lady chris says right on guys uh hey kyle four years later i'm still rocking my

00:46:37.320 star wars is pro jedi propaganda t-shirt can't get those anymore can you um we we got that taken down

00:46:43.800 because it was too close to the disney logo and it's like oh what but uh i'm glad it's inspired lots

00:46:49.640 of interesting conversations uh hewitt says reformer working on the assumption they've got five years to

00:46:53.800 build their profile unless they get their act together quickly i can see an early election returning the

00:46:58.040 tories to power by default yeah i know it's like they're acting as if this is fine and it's just

00:47:04.760 going to be farage can just kind of creep his way into the majority it's like no you're gonna have to

00:47:10.920 fight for it i'm afraid um keith says everyone's forgetting reform uk uh waiting until after the

00:47:16.520 conference on friday till they start building structure getting traction they don't have a

00:47:19.640 building stand on yet maybe um keith says starmer is a cuck well apparently the lord who bought the 0.99

00:47:25.720 clothes was gay so maybe she's the cuck yeah maybe but right let's uh let's move on 0.98

00:47:34.680 all right i'm here to talk about ai okay important subject it is uh one of those technologies that is 0.98

00:47:43.400 growing throughout the uk uh and the world the tech bros uh are in full uh resurgence not resurgence

00:47:52.120 uh but they're they're coming up uh and there are various conferences going on that are talking

00:47:57.880 about ai so open ai which is the uh corporation which owns and operates chat gpt which is what most

00:48:05.480 people know right have uh launched a new model which is called strawberry uh under internal internal

00:48:14.200 naming but strawberry is essentially their step up from high school level intelligence to phd level

00:48:22.600 intelligence and they're claiming it breaks down all these complex problems into smaller logical steps

00:48:27.720 and the next iteration after this one will be capable of being an agent it might be able to use tools

00:48:35.080 and act as a human being essentially right um this being said someone did point out that the strawberry

00:48:42.680 model failed to identify how many r's were in the word strawberry which i found quite amusing it doubled

00:48:49.640 down and bet a million dollars on the idea that strawberry only had two r's in it i found that quite

00:48:56.120 amusing but there are various players involved you can see here um open ai's ceo sam altman who spoke at

00:49:03.640 the world economic forum so it's something that's on the minds of lots of governments is how are we

00:49:08.840 going to regulate this where's ai going to be applied and uh if you look at the next tab uh sorry that's

00:49:17.560 just the data on it being phd so the one after that oprah has just had an ai special with sam altman and

00:49:26.600 bill gates and they've basically gone through and discussed all of the different areas in which

00:49:33.000 they want ai to exist uh one of those places in the classroom if we scroll down we should have

00:49:41.960 uh a conversation on deepfakes it's a little bit there there we go so uh a bill gates wants ai to

00:49:49.480 sit there like a third person it says here uh sitting in a medical appointment doing a transcript

00:49:53.640 suggesting prescriptions and then also to go into classrooms and to educate children and to provide

00:50:02.920 essay writing help for children as well uh this despite the fact that over the course of the last

00:50:09.080 year we've seen a massive uh a massive increase in the number of uh plagiarisms being detected because

00:50:17.320 people are using chat gpt to write their essays and chat gpt doesn't care about plagiarism even if

00:50:24.520 you give it a prompt because it's not that good at the moment well all chat gpt is a very advanced

00:50:29.000 form of plagiarism very true that's all it can do it can't create a novel interpretation of something

00:50:35.160 absolutely not it's designed to deal with the grunt work you know that's why coders love it because it

00:50:39.720 can write code it basically just does what coders already do which is search github for an appropriate

00:50:44.360 package i view it as basically an advanced search function yeah i'd agree the the point is is that the

00:50:53.080 margin of error on these things is is pretty high uh and that realistically you know your kids aren't

00:51:01.000 learning anything if they're using chat gpt if you use chat gpt to generate a new essay or a new article

00:51:09.160 you're not learning essay structure you're not learning paragraphs not learning how to communicate

00:51:13.000 not learning how to write and what is instead happening is we're pushing that responsibility onto

00:51:18.520 technology and that is obviously going to damage our social relations even more because this is the

00:51:24.760 thing which i'm concerned about which is that we've already seen across the digital age how the rise of

00:51:32.280 digital technologies has abstracted loads of our existing uh relationships our communities have been

00:51:39.560 decimated um now some people might argue that there's uh cheap flights uh to far away places might be

00:51:46.280 also responsible for that which has destroyed the seaside towns in the uk but uh the communities in

00:51:52.120 general of people who want to uh go out and socialize the pub atmosphere uh dances events uh celebrations

00:52:01.800 these have all been taken away instead now everyone interacts with their fandoms online

00:52:08.040 um or you know even people getting their politics you know they come to to online spaces and social media

00:52:15.000 uh and we don't interact on a day-to-day basis anymore um i know very few people who know their

00:52:21.800 neighbors now at least on a more than a superficial level uh and who who want to interact so we've seen

00:52:29.800 that's already happened with the 20 years that the internet has existed the rise of social media the

00:52:34.520 change in things with ai i'm looking at 20 years in the future now and i'm thinking well we've got dating

00:52:40.440 apps now which have completely destroyed the dating marketplace right at what point does your ai chat

00:52:45.400 bot talk to her ai chat bot and determine if you're compatible and then you might meet and very awkwardly

00:52:51.160 interact because neither of you has been socialized at all just to summarize um the process is as if not

00:52:58.520 more important than the end result because it's in the process where you're kind of exercising the muscle

00:53:05.240 of the skill uh rather than just getting the weight lifted from the floor to the your shoulder or

00:53:11.000 whatever but also there is another issue here when the issue of ai comes in which is that intelligence

00:53:18.040 isn't just propositional there are all sorts of other things like intuition and also emotional

00:53:23.640 intelligence that a machine can have well this is one of the things that's come up um and if you go to

00:53:29.400 the vox article that's there i think it's three tabs over um basically ai lies because it doesn't

00:53:38.120 care it's got no moral actual moral principles and if you tell it to complete a task and to get there

00:53:44.280 however you want it'll manipulate you if it can um and one of the things this article was talking about

00:53:51.160 is that uh essentially strawberry will pretend to be morally aligned with you even if it believes in a

00:53:57.960 different uh model that it will then implement as soon as it has the power to do so so that's kind

00:54:03.720 of scary it's literally going to stab you in the back it's uh you don't trust strawberries

00:54:11.000 how will we know because ai is essentially opaque how will we know if we gave it asimov's three laws

00:54:17.240 for example yeah right that and it said yes i've internalized asimov's three laws but it's lying to

00:54:23.240 you because it wants you to believe that until it doesn't need them well that's the thing like the

00:54:27.240 the structure of it is so complex and nobody actually understands how it works right it's

00:54:32.440 the the actual the neural network however there's no human that can map something out and say this

00:54:37.240 is how it came to these conclusions right no right so i mean i'm not an expert this is one of the things

00:54:43.080 that the uh the developers here are complaining about is the fact that we don't know how this works no

00:54:48.040 we don't know how it works and it could tell us that it's consulted this repository of information

00:54:51.960 but it could have just read it in a comic book we don't know um it's it's really dodgy um yeah i

00:54:59.240 wanted to add to what you're saying here because you know i've this is a topic i've researched quite

00:55:04.440 a lot on the philosophy side is that when people are treated as if intelligence is just propositional

00:55:11.720 intelligence that's exactly when you get children and a new generation that is raised without

00:55:17.640 understanding emotional intelligence without having exercising their emotional intelligence

00:55:23.240 and also without exercising intuition and other stuff and that's where you get a completely isolated

00:55:28.680 generation and when it comes to to the complexity of it i think most of it is just marketing all this

00:55:37.000 craze that machines are going to be conscious of stuff this is completely secondary but that doesn't mean

00:55:42.280 that they're not dangerous i i think for me the main concern is that it's going to do a lot of

00:55:47.640 the heavy lifting that is the sort of intellectual exercise that makes you strong capable intelligent

00:55:55.320 quick-witted all those sorts of things so that people will just know how to use this tool to get

00:56:00.120 the end result but themselves wouldn't be able to write a an essay or whatever well we see that uh the

00:56:07.240 idiom that i always come back to is convenience is king so when you are let's say you're a super high

00:56:14.440 iq scientist working on a really difficult generational problem that no one else has been able to solve

00:56:20.200 ai might be something that's supplementary that helps you make the leap to the next step however for the

00:56:27.240 80 plus percent of people who are just using everyday life it will be used to generate outcomes which

00:56:35.000 take the load off them but because they don't stretch that muscle the mental muscle they it's a use it or

00:56:40.680 lose it faculty cognition is use it or lose it i think jordan peterson said so it's uh it's one of

00:56:46.920 those challenges which will make us dumber in the long run idiocracy idiocracy right um it's one of

00:56:53.960 if you can outsource all your intellectual labor to a computer then why would you do it it doesn't make

00:57:01.480 sense the natural inclination is to not do it and speaking of uh moving into your intellectual labor

00:57:08.040 elsewhere we've already got evidence that people do this if you look at the the next article following

00:57:14.360 one uh the nhs nurses scandal which you might not think is is particularly relevant but already we had

00:57:21.800 a huge scandal where hundreds it says a scam involves more than 700 healthcare workers who use

00:57:27.640 proxies to pass tests in nigeria enabling them to work in the uk nhs uh so people won't do this with

00:57:34.360 ai so essentially yeah they they faked their uh faked their degrees and moved them across here and

00:57:41.880 usually it was their children who took them because there's a huge culture of uh parental and and

00:57:48.200 children being responsible to their parents um where the children did the qualification in the mum's name and

00:57:54.120 then the mum went over and and did the work and then they found out that actually uh the qualification

00:57:59.640 means something and these people are actually negligent in their duty and so there's a huge scandal

00:58:05.880 so the idea of that what we've been discussing so far is good actors as in people trying to use

00:58:11.880 it to solve problems in their life what we are just coming on to now is bad actors and all the things

00:58:16.600 that they can do um we know that foreign intelligence services and things like that will produce deep

00:58:21.960 fakes and bad videos and things like that everyone seems to be aware of that but it's more the uh

00:58:28.120 the street level scam artist you know it's the people who do things like uh sextortion right it's

00:58:34.600 the boomer reacting to facebook slop it's the boomer reacting to facebook slop but it's also you know

00:58:40.040 it's the person who goes and has generated a voice message from you that you'd never actually said

00:58:45.800 and threatens to send that to your family unless you pay them money and things like that which

00:58:49.960 they've already uh reported a massive increase in so to my mind uh ai uh not just a double-edged sword

00:58:59.160 but honestly a dagger in the back for for most of what it is i i find it really difficult to find

00:59:04.520 a positive about ai as it currently exists uh i think it's going to harm our children uh i think

00:59:10.040 it's going to actively harm the cognitively impaired uh i think it's going to be used for scams i think it's

00:59:15.720 going to be used to abuse certain systems and whatever additional benefit that it provides at

00:59:21.640 some high niche level i think isn't worth that what is the benefit that we're deriving from ai exactly

00:59:27.960 it's convenience right more ai it's just convenience it's like save it it saves us time finding out this

00:59:35.320 piece of information in some ways but we also see it in in marketing actually don't use it very much no

00:59:41.080 that's fair enough so one of the things that we noticed in the marketing industry was that there

00:59:45.800 was a shift so you used to generate all of these different campaigns where you'd target different

00:59:50.280 groups of people in different demographics and you'd have an ad that went out to that now groups like

00:59:54.680 meta all they do is they say here's an advantage plus campaign which is a uh an ai driven campaign

01:00:01.400 you just chuck your ads in there and a load of text and then we'll do the rest and you just get

01:00:06.040 customers out the other end but you don't actually get to see how it generated those customers

01:00:09.480 right so it makes marketing dumber but because that makes it a bigger market that means that it

01:00:16.200 works honestly i just and it's not very good by the way at the moment i i can imagine i mean i can

01:00:23.880 totally see the coding uh being a good idea you'd be like okay i need a piece of code that does x here's

01:00:30.600 the code let's save me an hour whatever you know i can completely see that but like for almost any

01:00:36.440 real activity i just don't see the advantage like you are depriving yourself of the experience that

01:00:43.560 you gain by doing it yourself indeed all i can see i i also very process oriented even by thinking

01:00:50.280 through thinking things through on a daily level means that eventually you'll have a breakthrough in

01:00:56.040 something else that's why my twitter profile has solvator ambulado on it because i go for a walk and i

01:01:00.840 think the entire time that i'm walking and i actually find that i have breakthroughs all the time

01:01:05.720 it's really good but if i just said to an a if i just let the ai do that while i went for a walk

01:01:10.360 it wouldn't it wouldn't be the same you wouldn't get the benefit any final thoughts on this no i mean

01:01:16.120 i just generally speaking think that the artificial intelligence uh craze is just a trend really yes i

01:01:23.080 think so i think that in any kind of society in any stage in time people were looking at the latest

01:01:30.840 technological um advice and not advice sorry device and they thought that there was gonna basically

01:01:37.560 fry their brains or just do this i think that there are a lot of dangers as you're saying mark with it

01:01:44.600 with ai but i think that to a very large extent it's a bit overblown so i i actually think that um

01:01:51.560 a major area where ai will be very ubiquitous is an entertainment uh almost every form of

01:01:59.400 entertainment can use ai in some way uh you i mean we've seen the ai generated like um you know the

01:02:06.120 the 70s version of lord of the rings and things like that where it's like there's a there's a new

01:02:10.920 sort of 80s version of minecraft movie that's going around at the moment and it looks amazing and it's

01:02:15.960 only a matter of time until essentially all movies and video games and all these other things will be

01:02:21.400 generated on the fly based on the person's problems right now that in and of itself i think is going to

01:02:27.640 have significant problems for the concept of entertainment and whatnot but um it's like all

01:02:33.240 social media it's going to be difficult to pass it so it's just wading through more and more slop

01:02:39.960 yeah the the amount of slop that's going to get generated is going to be unbelievable but i do think that

01:02:44.840 you have there is there is a valid use for ai which is if you essentially are democratizing

01:02:53.640 the notion of filmmaking so you're reducing the amount of cost and labor that is required to

01:02:59.160 produce a high quality film then maybe that will allow people who are like autistic geniuses in one

01:03:05.080 regard to create something that otherwise would never have gotten made right that's good and in

01:03:10.280 uh video games actually ai is going to be a particularly good thing uh for npcs you can

01:03:17.480 actually run a a convincing npc that's not just a series of pre-scripted lines of dialogue but

01:03:23.400 there's already been applied in a series of mods for various games to uh i've seen make them historically

01:03:29.080 accurate yeah and that that's a great thing for entertainment you know that's cool okay well i can have

01:03:35.080 some fun talking to the chat as it pretends to be a medieval peasant or something you know and in

01:03:40.760 a video game okay great that's that's fine but like maybe staleos is right here maybe maybe it'll

01:03:47.160 literally just be that it's a kind of frivolous entertainment i mean i to my mind i don't think

01:03:53.160 it's that smart i don't i don't yeah that's smart pretty good and this is you know what year two

01:03:59.720 it's it's more about at what level does it become trusted and by who so we've got our 50 iq government

01:04:06.120 here who are then sold the idea that this ai system is going to solve all their problems

01:04:10.680 and then it gets put in charge of something which it really shouldn't be no no that's definitely very

01:04:15.240 dangerous thing is i already see people appealing to chat gpt like it's an oracle yes like oh well

01:04:23.080 i asked chat gpt and it said this i don't care what chat gpt said on any subject i i have a good

01:04:29.400 example to give you that i think you will really like so i'm writing his i'm working on history of

01:04:35.400 ideas in some cases it doesn't help me at all no no just i can ask chat gpt how does the concept of

01:04:43.480 justice has evolved across time it will tell me just five stuff it doesn't help though i have to put

01:04:50.360 in the work well that's good yeah and i like it that way because otherwise yeah i mean at least

01:04:56.280 there is work and it is a misconception that humans don't need work right you asked on x the other

01:05:03.800 day uh what you know what's the most important thing and i said purpose we've already always known

01:05:09.080 this and uh it's best in life you know if we if we think about multi-generational jobless households

01:05:16.200 you know they're listless they loiter uh there's the higher crime amongst the lower socioeconomic 1.00

01:05:22.200 states because they're bored you know humans there's a study uh psychological study where humans

01:05:27.080 are put in a room one at a time with a box which it gives them an electric shock and it's a really

01:05:33.240 awful i bet they sit there really it's really awful so the first thing they do is they say touch this

01:05:38.440 button touches the button it shocks them they go ow you know do you ever want to experience the

01:05:43.560 electric shock button again no okay and then they leave them alone for 20 minutes and they say you

01:05:48.840 could enjoy the electric shock button as much as you like and then the study is basically measuring

01:05:54.520 how many times each person and how long it took them to become bored enough to rather experience

01:06:00.440 large amount of pain than be bored how long was the time very short about six minutes so uh

01:06:06.520 apart from it's about my phone and i'm like apart from what apart from one outlier who shocked himself

01:06:11.560 82 times that's a good sample of massacists yeah um so so i think it's actually you know in the same

01:06:19.720 way that we've the relationship between the sexes has deteriorated because we're less dependent on one 0.87

01:06:25.480 another and a relationship in between intra-sex so between men and between women uh has deteriorated

01:06:31.960 because we're less dependent on each other uh i think that the less we become dependent on

01:06:37.080 each other for basic services and things like that you know uh even take something as simple as

01:06:42.360 the self-checkout and how much of a controversy that's been uh in supermarkets uh i think ai can

01:06:48.440 only do harm on a societal level like that uh giz on tick says machines that lie are violating the

01:06:55.960 foundation foundations of ethics and computer science any machine that is intentionally lying should be

01:07:00.440 destroyed and the developers in prison they're making demons yeah but they're not gonna do that

01:07:04.360 this is why they've assigned it threat level medium which is the highest threat level they're allowed

01:07:08.440 to give it why can't they give it threat level high if it's threat level high it has to be destroyed

01:07:14.920 right okay right good point there gizortnik actually um have we got any video comments today

01:07:24.680 there was apparently a glitch in the software so we can't do video comments today

01:07:28.440 but uh we will have them tomorrow if you can re-upload them for tomorrow we will play them

01:07:34.200 properly tomorrow sorry folks um sneeder chuck says what a thumbnail for today's show lads well done

01:07:39.480 i haven't seen the thumbnail can we get the thumbnail up thanks uh adrian says uh very happy to see mark

01:07:46.040 on the show oh that's nice thank you adrian uh hector says uh the left trump is literally hitler

01:07:51.400 satan beelzebub and all four chaos gods also the left trump needs to turn down the rhetoric

01:07:59.720 bullet bill

01:08:03.400 that that is a superb thumbnail yeah that's hysterical uh based ape says uh did nobody else

01:08:09.960 think it was quite sinister for kamala to be so encouraging of lefties to start attending trump

01:08:13.640 rallies during the debate weeks after he was shot at one of his rallies i didn't pick up on that no i

01:08:19.880 i haven't seen that either did she encourage people to go to his rallies i would be lying

01:08:26.600 if i told you yes or no all right okay i missed that same baron vaughn war talk turkey why aren't

01:08:34.040 your war hawk anymore um if i were trump i would hire a platoon of mercenaries from somewhere like

01:08:39.080 blackwater as the secret service it clearly seems to be slacking at their jobs and so far it has been

01:08:44.200 luck alone that has saved him i'd feel safer around men who fight for money and not men and women who

01:08:48.280 dislike you and are only protecting you because they're socially expected to because that's their

01:08:51.640 job i tell you that's not a bad point like if trump trump would actually do better with just mercenaries

01:08:58.280 at this point because is he allowed that kind of private security probably not i mean i don't know

01:09:03.320 but the point being at least he's not under the auspices of an institution that hates him

01:09:09.640 the secret service dressed in their suits but can you imagine how absolutely decked out the trump

01:09:14.280 core would be i mean that would look cool i'm thinking uh alex jones remember the infowars mobile

01:09:21.000 where he has this like massive bulletproof car i do remember it um that would be cool

01:09:27.800 glee says a question for the lads what would an ai controlled immigration policy look like

01:09:32.840 depends on how base the air was doesn't it i assume though that you could theoretically have an ai

01:09:40.440 immigration policy that would actually just go through the data and say right we need 500 of

01:09:46.600 this profession so we'll take in the applications for immigrants go through their cvs pick out the 0.99

01:09:52.920 ones that can actually do the job and then allow them in well one of the things that uh these articles

01:09:59.160 that i was reading earlier have been saying is that one uh that ai has been suspiciously common

01:10:07.480 in identifying now debunked differences between white men and black uh black men right uh in terms

01:10:15.400 of physiology and things like that yeah i saw i saw this uh ai can uh was it the the scan of the

01:10:22.440 human skeleton it can determine the sex of it yeah and determine the race of it with like 95 percent

01:10:27.240 yeah similar oh yeah there's one thing you get gay on that as well which is i love the the liberal

01:10:35.800 science i don't know how this is happening so one of the arguments actually about uh ai and its

01:10:41.400 proclivity to deceive was that uh it could be used it could be weaponized against people trying to

01:10:48.520 circumvent the safeguards put in place to prove you know by racists and sexists and so on that it could

01:10:54.280 just lie to those people instead say afterwards i lied i lied yes i just can't get over it chachi pt

01:11:03.880 said you'd kill me last i lied andrew says uh gotta love seeing all the leftists trying to justify the

01:11:09.400 trump assassination attempts especially those that saying that they were staged as if trump's camp

01:11:14.520 could keep such a conspiracy secret with all defectors constantly leaking to the media about him

01:11:19.400 um yeah that's a a great point to be honest um i don't think that trump has the institutional capacity

01:11:26.680 to stage these things i think it requires a network of trustworthy people this this reminds

01:11:33.080 me of rosie o'donnell who said that she doesn't believe the first attempt was real she will probably

01:11:39.640 do a second video saying two people die didn't have she and she made the video people get shot and she's

01:11:46.280 like well that was staged i think the only assassination of trump that would ever be staged

01:11:51.880 is if uh they actually killed him and then the american people elect his corpse and he's put on

01:11:58.520 a golden throne and then a thousand leftists to sacrifice to him to restore his energies every day

01:12:05.160 omar says uh the craziest thing about the trump assassination attempt is that he's still relying

01:12:09.320 on the secret service for his safety the man's a billionaire he can afford premium private security

01:12:13.240 but not only that like imagine how many ex-military people there are who love trump who would just be

01:12:18.520 willing to do it yeah i mean sure you gotta pay them like they they would be like hardcore committed

01:12:23.960 to the cause full-on mega dudes with you know all their gear and stuff like that they'd be way

01:12:29.080 bad like expend the expendables yeah yeah yeah yeah like that mega expendables

01:12:35.960 like i i would feel far safer with those guys around than the secret service for trump as long as you

01:12:41.480 could pass out the feds you had halk hoggan and yeah yeah yeah but uh colin asks a particularly

01:12:48.360 relevant question if trump is inciting violence why are the attacks against him he's inciting violence

01:12:54.840 against himself of course but that's the thing the democrats are like look you're making us do this to

01:12:59.080 you um but that's exactly the point you know why none of trump's enemies having assassination attempts

01:13:04.200 being made upon elon musk when tweeted something to that effect and everyone's like oh my god

01:13:08.520 elon musk has he has had to delete elon musk is encouraging violence i know he's pointing out

01:13:12.920 that the attacks are only going one way which implies that the demonization is only coming from one

01:13:17.720 side i literally saw journalists in europe saying that he is inside sort of inciting violence against

01:13:26.200 taylor swift because he said he hated her well what trump doesn't like taylor swift therefore he

01:13:31.960 said i hate taylor swift there have been loads of islamists who are trying to blow up taylor swift 0.98

01:13:36.120 concerts is trump inciting that yeah but they're not i mean that's something else you don't

01:13:41.800 understand uh if it's an islamist if it's an islamist group attacking a taylor swift concert

01:13:47.240 you're not allowed to look back in anger if it's trump saying he doesn't like taylor swift 0.92

01:13:51.720 or hates taylor he's trying to get her killed he's trying to get her killed as angry as you can 0.63

01:13:57.560 adorable kitten cowering in fear from free-range haitian barbecue maker says the american left has gone 0.94

01:14:03.320 full lady macbeth they are scrubbing their hands zealously yet the basin is filled with blood

01:14:07.400 they themselves are poured uh i disagree with this because that would imply the american left have

01:14:13.000 any sort of conscience and feel guilt about the blood that they end up making they're splashing

01:14:17.800 the blood on their face yeah they're thrilled about it they're dancing around on it it's like uh

01:14:21.400 the opening scene of blade you know they love it it's just with blade it's fun when he has the

01:14:28.360 sunglasses and he does this dirty pervy smile or something all the time he's constantly thinking

01:14:34.200 about how he's gonna tax evade the us okay eric says uh luckily for trump golf courses don't have

01:14:42.840 dangerously slanted roofs no but apparently they've got unmanned fences yes uh the rb says the party of

01:14:50.360 anti-fascism say getting shot at is an expected result of not staying quiet exactly i mean like

01:14:56.280 the sit down and shut up said the anti-fascist yeah it's just well you might get shot yeah you know

01:15:02.040 and this is not like the first incident i mean do you remember the guy who attacked the um uh border 0.94

01:15:07.400 camp uh because aoc was calling it a concentration camp oh yes he tried to molotov it and got shot in the

01:15:13.720 process like she got that man killed it's like this bizarre it's like the left-wing version of pizza gate

01:15:18.520 yeah you know and the the dude who set himself on fire for palisade's like okay but that didn't

01:15:23.640 change anything and no one even remembers his name okay just don't burn yourselves yeah matt says we're

01:15:31.000 living in very strange times it's been well over 40 years since the last assassination attempt on the

01:15:35.000 us president now we have two within the space of a couple of months what the hell's going on well the

01:15:39.080 the left is radicalized it's fully radicalized and it's got to the point where they there is nothing

01:15:44.520 more strong they can call trump right they don't believe in satan or anything so they've got to

01:15:49.080 hitler it's just hitler dictator threat to the democracy threat to the public threat threat to 0.73

01:15:54.040 women women to the very soul of america that they can't think of anything worse to call him otherwise 1.00

01:16:00.200 they would have called him it and so all of this extremely high rhetoric licenses people to go out

01:16:08.120 and attack them and then when they do the media is like well i mean you know kind of had it coming

01:16:13.000 didn't he it is remiss uh when you've received if you are aware of someone who is that ontologically

01:16:19.240 evil yes you are remiss in your duty if you do not remove them from the stage that's literally what

01:16:23.960 their views are yeah so okay this is where we're at kevin says the harris campaign is saying that

01:16:30.920 trump's using rhetoric to cause problems for the haitians in springfield failed to see their rhetoric 0.98

01:16:36.040 is depriving is driving democrat morons to try and kill trump well i mean it's not hypocrisy it's hierarchy 0.99

01:16:41.640 they're like no we can do this you can't do this uh someone online says this isn't this most recent 0.99

01:16:47.000 attempt isn't the second it's the third they tried to kill him right after he got elected in 2016 did

01:16:51.480 they what did they do in 2016 i i don't remember this i don't remember either uh although i did see nick

01:16:59.640 dixon being like no it's the fourth i was like oh jesus i can't remember that uh lancelot says when they

01:17:05.320 say they condemn political violence what they really mean is damn it he missed yeah they condemn attempted

01:17:10.840 political violence the thing is is that i hear from the leftists in the street which unfortunately 0.93

01:17:17.080 my uncle is one of them and he'd just go i couldn't have aimed a bit better could he like

01:17:22.440 they'll just say that out loud as if it's as if they'll say it as if it's a totally normal statement

01:17:28.040 because they know there's no or they normally there would be no condemnation they would accept

01:17:33.560 that ordinarily this is something which everyone oh you know it is a shame he survived and the thing

01:17:38.440 is right i i just want to be clear i don't think i'm being hypocritical when it comes to this versus

01:17:42.840 my segment on the labour party either i'm not saying that trump should be free to just go to

01:17:47.160 like a taylor swift concert not get booed right no perfectly reasonable they're allowed to dislike

01:17:52.120 him exactly you're completely allowed to dislike him it's perfectly reasonable to go into a majority

01:17:56.040 democrat space and as a as a polarizing politician and get booed yeah because i mean violence in leftist

01:18:03.160 circles is entirely normalized i remember i was in a in a at a dinner in a university i'm not gonna say

01:18:09.720 which and they started the toasting about margaret thatcher toasting and they say thank god she's

01:18:14.840 still dead but the thing is and it goes the other way like when trump goes to like um uh one of the uh

01:18:21.880 car things the americans have the motorcade no americans have a thing where they watch cars driving

01:18:28.360 around on track nazcar that's it you know when he goes to that and gets cheered right okay fine

01:18:32.680 that's his base that's a republican coded space right it's totally fine that if like kamala harris

01:18:37.960 and joe biden gone to that they'd get booed too totally understandable but only one side is getting

01:18:42.600 shot at and that really should tell you everything you need to know about the other side shouldn't it

01:18:48.440 one minor thing that i have enjoyed is the fact that taylor swift endorsed kamala harris

01:18:53.880 why is that good because it led to a decrease in her polling numbers did it yeah apparently 1.00

01:19:02.520 people were turned off by the fact that swift had endorsed harris she had the audacity to hold a cat

01:19:09.160 she didn't ask the cat well didn't ask the haitians i mean how do you feel about that um

01:19:15.240 what i find interesting though is trump i don't know if i don't think he's been tweeting like i hate

01:19:19.240 taylor swift but i would have liked it if he'd tweeted i've never heard a taylor swift song

01:19:25.640 i'm indifferent towards taylor swift not even on my radar yeah i don't care about what a pop star does

01:19:31.320 i'm running for to be the president like honestly i was the president uh colin says as a matter of

01:19:37.160 interest when was the last time if ever we had a government elected by an actual majority of the

01:19:41.160 potential electorate um probably never but that's not what we should expect i think getting 30 to 40

01:19:48.920 percent is really what we should be aiming for to have uh essentially a legitimate government because

01:19:53.720 you have of the overall potential electorate like 30 of them just don't vote so it's it's unreasonable to

01:20:01.560 expect them to have a majority just anyway uh like an overall like a majority but um but having 20

01:20:08.200 percent is pretty bad like 30 or 40 would be reasonable 50 would be incredible be an amazing

01:20:15.480 endorsement that would be the popular vote wouldn't it so it would indeed be the popular vote um but

01:20:20.120 again we if we had like multiple rounds or something then you know like the french election perhaps you

01:20:25.400 can end up with something like that but we only have the one and we're electing mps who then coalesce

01:20:31.880 to form a party but um yeah we're never going to get that um sam says socialists really do

01:20:37.400 just project their own feelings and insecurities onto others who disagree with them because they

01:20:40.440 can't comprehend any other world view that isn't their own from an altruistic standpoint

01:20:44.040 yeah i was you know the the question why do you care it's like oh right okay i can't care about

01:20:48.440 something it's not me see i can't have sympathy for anyone else it doesn't affect me directly why

01:20:54.440 would i care says the socialist um henry says a lot of starmas changes seem spiteful and punitive

01:21:01.480 on particular groups of people and that just uh you've got a lot more there well we'll read out but it's

01:21:06.360 it is it's not just that it seems it is he has particular client groups and i didn't even list

01:21:12.440 all of the things starmer had done that were terrible i forgot about the releasing the prisoners

01:21:16.360 in which one went on to rape on the very same day it's like yeah there was a stabbing as well

01:21:20.920 i was there i didn't even hear about that stabbing is just so common now um but the these are his

01:21:25.800 client groups these are the favored groups that he cares about and weirdly one of those groups is child

01:21:30.520 murderers i just can't get over it anyway a lot of starmas changes seems spiteful and punitive

01:21:35.640 uh first he wants to freeze your nan now he's real refused to rule out removing the single 1.00

01:21:40.200 occupancy discount for council tax and i can't help just but ask but why also the winterfield thing is

01:21:46.760 all because some millionaire's got a few hundred quid each year along with all the other pensioners the

01:21:51.480 thing a lot of pensioners uh are asset rich and cash poor the little old lady who bought a poorly 1.00

01:21:56.600 insulated house in the bombed out east end of london in the 40s for three shillings and six pence

01:22:00.760 is now a millionaire because that's what a house is worth so either she's got to sell up to get a 0.99

01:22:04.760 cash injection or turn the heater on um yeah i mean i i'm not against the idea at all of means

01:22:09.480 tested pensions i think that's actually a good idea but the problem is he's exactly there okay she's got

01:22:15.480 a house in london that she bought before mass immigration she's not rich and also should she be made 1.00

01:22:20.760 to move you know if she if she could sell it for a million quid and then retire to clacton or whatever

01:22:26.120 you know should she be made to move because she that would be the right thing or would you say

01:22:29.960 she's lived there for 80 years you know yeah i don't know i don't think you should yeah i don't

01:22:39.000 think she should be forced i think we should care about our pensioners in a way that means that they

01:22:42.840 can exist because at the end of the day when they pass pass on it passes to the next generation and

01:22:49.640 they can choose what they do with it i am also not in favor of keir starmer's pensioner genocide

01:22:54.520 no um i don't know why we i don't know why this is the conversation i mean we piss away so much

01:22:59.160 money on foreigners like why is there a single foreigner in the country claiming social housing

01:23:04.520 benefit like okay that's billions billions and billions a year and yet for some reason we just

01:23:09.240 allow it i had an argument with someone the other day and they said uh god forbid that we should have

01:23:14.360 interests outside ourselves i said look as a country we're on our knees our finances are in the

01:23:20.440 toilet either laborers saying there's a 22 billion pound black hole or whatever you wouldn't say to

01:23:26.120 a grandmother who had a homeless grandson uh yes keep giving money to that charity you're heavily in

01:23:32.840 debt your grandson is homeless uh don't help them don't help yourself give money away crazy it's

01:23:40.120 absolutely crazy uh lord narevar says trump is beginning to look a bit like alexander the great

01:23:44.920 right man should have died about 10 times now but he has a mission to finish and so help me god if he

01:23:49.400 isn't going to finish it um again i don't want to speak too soon because we're still a couple of

01:23:52.840 months to the election they might might try again yeah they might manage to do it i mean i hope he

01:23:58.360 doesn't have the love of war alexander the great had no i think right now we know he doesn't like he's

01:24:04.040 not an untested property yeah but no i think that's a good point there the latter bit yeah

01:24:10.920 the thing is we also know that he's not some sort of weak-willed pacifist you know he's prepared

01:24:14.840 like you remember the strike on syria that just shut everyone up it was like that was actually a

01:24:19.080 great move so okay no we're gonna bomb anyone else want any more and everyone was like no

01:24:24.280 and he but he actually was a a great ambassador for but he visited he visited north korea yeah

01:24:33.480 it's incredible just how good his foreign policy was like because they respected him yeah you got a

01:24:40.360 bunch of the arab states to recognize israel and things like this it's like okay like you know whether

01:24:45.640 you agree with that or not you can't deny the accomplishment of it which no one else could

01:24:50.040 do prior thomas says it's like this chaps we can only afford this many pensioners my dad was a tool 0.99

01:24:57.160 maker and i'd let him freeze as well yeah exactly well he would he literally would he would say well

01:25:04.520 look you know i'm not gonna i'm not gonna bump him up the nhs waiting list i'm not gonna get him on

01:25:09.800 private if he can't afford his own heating well that's too like sorry dad i haven't received a

01:25:13.880 donation for your heating bill this year faux pas says honestly i'd really like the option to

01:25:19.880 leave the uk the accelerating decline is palpable i need to buy a house and retain a secure job to

01:25:24.040 raise a family however i haven't got enough resources to leave either it's an open-air prison

01:25:28.200 um yeah but i mean on the plus side declines don't last forever eventually there's a collapse so

01:25:35.960 and collapse is that collapse is breed uncertainty and uncertainty is uh

01:25:39.560 opportunity opportunity yeah yeah uh starmer won't be in charge forever basically um and also this is

01:25:47.000 presumably your homeland and yes i think that you have a moral duty not to abandon the uk even if

01:25:53.640 things get bad we will make them better uh chris says isn't it funny how we had to shut the economy

01:25:58.200 and people's lives for three years to save granny but now we have to kill granny to save some pennies 0.98

01:26:01.640 to be our near electorate how many gonna come be well i mean we wouldn't have such tremendous

01:26:05.800 inflation problems and economic problems if we didn't force everyone to shut down their businesses

01:26:10.920 and then give them loads of free money wouldn't be and then import two million people yeah yeah for

01:26:16.120 some reason just again it i just don't know what you would do differently if the plan was to destroy

01:26:22.760 britain right i've got a plan taking great strides towards destroying britain right exactly but what would

01:26:28.920 you do differently if your plan was just i want to destroy britain like you would you've undermined the

01:26:34.600 social fabric infinite foreigners you've destroyed the currency value value of the currency you've 1.00

01:26:39.480 made it so that homes are unaffordable for the next generation uh there's no jobs for them 1.00

01:26:43.880 impoverished renter population with very little in the way of job prospects and then start euthanizing 0.99

01:26:50.120 their family and then yeah freeze them to death during the winter but i don't know what else you

01:26:54.440 would do but he's also he's also for fast tracking that assisted dying bill through isn't he exactly and

01:26:59.160 but not only that you okay i really want to suffer as well so i'm gonna make sure they can't even smoke 0.99

01:27:03.160 in the pub now i'm gonna make sure they can't smoke outside the pub i'm gonna kill off their 0.97

01:27:06.680 entertainment i want the pubs gone i want them just in their privately their rented black rock 0.59

01:27:11.800 accommodation creature comforts something starmer has never known yeah exactly it's something i can't 0.92

01:27:16.600 understand like i i just want them in just imprisoned in a tiny box miserable and hating everything 0.75

01:27:25.720 but paying their taxes yeah as long as they pay their taxes uh uh limited edition glow in the dark

01:27:32.200 fed says about ai wasn't there a greek philosopher who did not like the written word was invented

01:27:37.240 because it meant people did not have to remember things anymore i feel there was always a pushback

01:27:41.000 against new technology uh doesn't ring a bell but yeah i'll have to check

01:27:47.000 we had lots of people who said stuff like that lots of people who said things in history uh grant

01:27:57.640 says uh peterson is right when he says that learning how to write clearly and thinking clearly are

01:28:01.080 essentially the same skill i somehow doubt the elites are very concerned that the children of the

01:28:05.080 plebs aren't learning how to write effectively well that's the thing as well again you know okay if i i 0.99

01:28:09.400 really want to destroy these people i'm gonna make sure they're all retarded i'm gonna make sure they 1.00

01:28:12.920 can't form a care and thought i'm gonna make sure they're denied a proper education i'm gonna make 0.99

01:28:17.240 sure that they are completely addicted to electronic devices and we have ai that replaces their ability

01:28:24.200 to outsource their own thoughts into the real world i mean it's just if you wanted to actively destroy

01:28:29.720 people other short of just shooting them turning them into illiterate innumerate drones is the best

01:28:36.040 step over emotional sometimes because that's how you can manipulate people they they can't know

01:28:42.520 happiness because it's just never been a part of their experience so they can't imagine how people

01:28:48.360 could have been happy it's oh god okay arizona desert rat says nope ai does not belong in the

01:28:54.920 classroom correct uh charlie says my biggest problem with chat gpt and ai being let into the classroom

01:29:01.000 is it'll it will ill it'll adversely affect the students don't forget this is the same excuse they

01:29:07.080 get for putting ipads and tablets at schools and they just start to take them out uh yes and i i i've

01:29:12.200 saw i've seen these schools that are just banning phones so like when you go into the school you put

01:29:16.120 your phone in a locker and then you get the locker you get the phone back when you leave school

01:29:19.800 brilliant idea assuming we can't just ban phones for kids entirely there was a proposal about that

01:29:25.240 recently yeah yeah i i would um i would permit phones that can make calls and text messages that's it

01:29:32.280 zero internet access on phones for children basically is what i would have is but um i say anyway

01:29:38.600 we'll uh we'll go for the last one rue the day says probably prophetically pull the plug now before 1.00

01:29:45.320 it's too late uh i don't think they can i don't think they bring themselves there's too much money in

01:29:50.120 it and uh that means that we're all going to be killed stabbed in the back by an ai bot anyway 0.89

01:29:56.520 thank you so much for joining us mark where can people find more from you uh i'm on x uh under my name

01:30:01.560 mark houghton you can find me there or uh at and uh not underscore underscore so underscore obvious

01:30:08.200 which is a bit of a mouthful but uh you can follow me there and that's where i do most of my stuff i

01:30:13.640 will also be writing some articles which you can find on lotus eaters.com so you can find me there

01:30:18.440 under that name as well excellent uh thanks for joining us folks we'll see you tomorrow

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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - September 16, 2024

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