The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1005

00:00:00.000 hello and welcome to the podcast of the lotus eaters for the 20th of september 2024 and i am

00:00:14.360 joined by beau and lewis brackpool once again hello back by popular demand and today we're

00:00:21.140 going to be talking about uh the influencer desert dystopia that is saudi arabia we're going to be

00:00:27.300 talking about modern art being rubbish and beau is going to be talking about illegal migration so we

00:00:32.700 got two fun segments and a rather depressing one i imagine although you are going to come up with

00:00:38.960 solutions to these problems yeah so it's positive you know we're giving you giving you a ray of hope

00:00:45.840 so actually it's quite optimistic especially for our podcast on a friday we don't want to depress you

00:00:51.260 and of course don't forget um lads hour this afternoon three o'clock our time uh it's going

00:00:56.800 to be geo guesser it's going to be a lot of fun i've been looking forward to this one for a long

00:01:00.300 time i'm going to be running it so it's going to be good uh not that i'm biased or anything also

00:01:05.040 more announcements um islander if you don't own a copy um we all hate you no um um it's really good

00:01:13.400 uh just to go off some of the people who've written in it uh there are some surprises i'm not going to

00:01:19.340 tell you but cole benjamin that guy might have heard of him uh dr neema parvini morgoff's review

00:01:25.260 uh rog nationalist marcus follin dave green the distributor stefan molyneux you get the idea this

00:01:32.040 one you can't buy it anymore it's out of print so you want to get this one before it goes out of

00:01:36.880 print so do that uh and also another thing uh we're hiring um samson if you could pull up the hiring

00:01:44.580 thing a production administrator i don't know what this is but if you do you might be fit for this

00:01:49.960 career opportunity um you'll have the misfortune of sharing an office with us um i'm very sorry

00:01:55.480 about that uh that can't be helped unfortunately um if you know what this is and you are qualified

00:02:01.580 and you are willing to live and work in swindon um actually you don't have to live here but

00:02:06.260 it helps um you will be working here uh then apply for this it's on the website um loadseaters.com

00:02:13.960 slash careers uh production administrator there you go you can see it on screen if you can't even

00:02:19.660 get to the page you're probably not qualified so anyway um i suppose i may as well start off so

00:02:26.220 almost just over two years ago now connor and i covered this um saudi arabia's plan to build a great

00:02:35.140 big line in the desert as a sort of weird dystopian uh i don't know what it is really a living

00:02:42.640 arrangement a city it's weird to call it a city when it's a great big line but we called it saudi

00:02:48.420 arabia's rat utopia because everyone was living on top of each other um in a sort of 15 minute city 0.99

00:02:54.240 and they're talking about 2030 and it was all a bit world economic for me and this was all the way back

00:02:59.560 in august of 2022 and i wanted to have a look at where it's at uh two years on just over and so just

00:03:05.920 to give you a little bit of information you can see all of the sort of concepts that they were

00:03:10.080 crowing around at the time and what was involved but the line um is said to be um 200 meters wide

00:03:18.200 or 656 foot and 170 kilometers or 106 miles long that's how big they want to make it that's ridiculous 0.60

00:03:29.860 oh of course it's ridiculous that's like the whole arabian peninsula isn't it or something 1.00

00:03:34.640 it's not that far but still it's a decent portion of it yeah is it mirrored as well like that i think

00:03:40.820 so so a great big mirror in the desert that's going to go down well isn't it but you remember

00:03:44.420 the do you remember the walkie talkie in london yes i remember it's still there but that had it

00:03:49.920 wasn't even mirrored like that but it acted as some sort of giant evil death ray it was like melting

00:03:55.020 cars and things well so surely that's going to be covered in glass all around you know it's going

00:04:00.340 to tell the sand yeah it's going to just one big oven really yeah right it's going to be wildlife

00:04:05.980 getting charred alive you know wind turbines chop seagulls into a little bit you know they're not all

00:04:11.680 bad um that's going to do the same thing with lots of different wildlife it's going to be like

00:04:16.140 holding a giant magnifying glass yeah um but it's going to cost 1.5 trillion us dollars okay

00:04:24.180 just a measly cool 1.5 trillion and it was expected to house 1.5 million people by 2030

00:04:31.660 and now it is expected to house 300 000 people uh so yes that's a bit of a downgrade isn't it

00:04:40.060 but they're still shooting for that 1.5 million eventually just not by 2030

00:04:44.620 it's also worth mentioning as well um if you're not going to work in this horrible line dystopia

00:04:50.580 uh we are hiring a production administrator so uh if you know anything about production

00:04:55.540 administration which i don't um so i i can't really tell you much about it we have a page

00:05:01.040 here which i've unintentionally sabotaged um here are the responsibilities here are the skills

00:05:07.440 you can pause the video and read those if you wish if you fit the bill and want to work in

00:05:12.540 swindon for some reason uh you can apply for this you will be sharing an office with everyone at

00:05:17.340 lotus eaters so i'm sorry about that it's just uh one of the parts of the job and uh yeah make sure

00:05:22.900 to apply for that so back to the line here it is this is one of the concept of that this is the concept

00:05:30.500 of it uh this is is like someone's giving a five-year-old um like a long ruler yeah some sort

00:05:39.060 of um design skills or something like that just we're just going to build a big line city i know

00:05:45.240 city skylines uh is fun and everything but you don't need to do this sort of thing even there it

00:05:50.720 doesn't work i'm sure you'll get onto it but is there any utility in it is there a reason for it

00:05:55.900 other than to just environmentalism or something mental like that it's got to be

00:06:00.840 it is i think the idea is because there's no cars involved the transportation is just going to span

00:06:07.580 in one big line i think that's the idea it's in a line because that's what's most efficient for the

00:06:14.300 public transport which is interesting but here's another concept picture that is basically going to

00:06:20.420 be two mirrors and you're going to live inside the mirrors and there's going to be greenery in the

00:06:25.420 inside of this presumably very cool thing maybe it's mirrored to keep the insides cold because

00:06:30.660 it's the saudi arabian peninsula but the idea is um it's going to look um oh this is another part of

00:06:37.220 it sorry um so this uh is a sort of subterranean thing i thought it was underwater from the filters

00:06:44.360 on it but they're also going to be building stuff underground as well um for some reason it looks

00:06:49.600 like a halo map for some reason um and here's another one of inside the line before i did for

00:06:56.820 i i would like it if they had that much greenery i don't think that's actually gonna it's like i am

00:07:01.660 legend but like awful or district nine but it's just it's just as bad they're trying to go for a sort

00:07:08.460 of gardens of babylon style thing maybe it reminds me of a more verdant megacity one from judge dread

00:07:14.860 but like um do you know what i think it is uh like the burj dubai or the burj khalifa whatever

00:07:22.440 it's called you know that biggest building in the world um the the arabs or people from the emirates 1.00

00:07:28.600 got effectively endless money um and no taste more money than sense so they go to a design company

00:07:37.120 and say design is something sort of quote-unquote brilliant and cutting edge or edgy and avant-garde

00:07:44.580 whatever you want and and yeah we've got endless money to throw it yet um and someone at the very top

00:07:51.140 in the saudi arabian royal family i imagine uh gave it this this lion city the green light

00:07:57.400 but the problem is obviously it's absurd yeah so let's have a look at some more pictures um

00:08:03.160 so here's another one this one looks very different than the past one perhaps a little bit more realistic

00:08:08.960 in that it doesn't look like it's overgrown i mean you're going to have a city full of gardeners

00:08:13.300 to keep that other one going yeah how many gardeners are they going to employ for this or is it all

00:08:17.560 artificial so you know it's it's a nice concept it's a little bit idealistic a mall it does a

00:08:25.520 little bit autumn's gonna look terrible like and here's another one this one really does look like

00:08:31.240 a halo map here blade runner it does yeah the death star it does yeah i think you can see darth vader

00:08:37.800 oh no that's just a woman in a bucket um and uh here's another one this you know is this uh i forgot 0.99

00:08:44.560 what that name is now is it destiny one oh yeah it kind of looks a bit like that doesn't it i've not

00:08:49.240 even played it so i don't know i don't i don't understand this though so you get views but i

00:08:54.340 thought it was one big line i think they've also got these other projects that connect to the line

00:08:59.980 so there's you've got like a hotel and there's like a mariner they're building an island and all

00:09:06.960 sorts of things um i'm just giving a sort of quick overview because we went into all the details and

00:09:12.560 the plans uh two years ago and i think they're trying to stick to those uh here's another one

00:09:17.380 here's a hotel this looks very june like this does look like june yeah particularly that one in the

00:09:22.120 middle it does yeah it's uh the sand people are easily startled but they'll see me back in greater

00:09:28.320 numbers um i think in the middle looks like a termite mound it does a little bit that is horrible

00:09:35.100 yeah it is a bit garish isn't it um the problem with these things you're still in the middle of

00:09:40.420 the arabian desert one of the most inhospitable places in the world you've you've presaged what

00:09:46.780 i was actually going to look at here so can we tell the difference between mars and the site in

00:09:52.080 which they're building this top top right was definitely mars i recognize that yes um this this

00:09:57.920 one i would say is saudi arabia because it's got grass on it uh that's a pretty easy one this next

00:10:03.320 one that's mars i recognize the picture i'm gonna say mars yeah i don't have the answers here i think

00:10:12.140 it's probably mars um this one has a man i'm not in a space suit gotta be mars that's a martian there

00:10:19.580 yeah this is what nasa doesn't want you to know right and uh yeah the point being that it's not a

00:10:27.400 very hospitable place if you do visit this city you do live there you go for a walk you're gonna

00:10:32.520 need a whole host of equipment you know you're gonna need like a desert suit you're gonna need

00:10:38.500 to know about sandworms steel suit yeah now you're immediately in a survival situation if you walk

00:10:43.780 outside the lion city great that's what everyone wants right it's ridiculous it's like the outback 0.96

00:10:49.440 in australia there's a reason why it's true loads of things built there loads of infrastructure

00:10:53.300 it's not a good idea yeah a good idea there's nothing there because no one wants to live there

00:10:58.660 and uh to be fair closer to the coast uh where a lot of the development's going on it does look

00:11:05.160 a bit more habitable you know there's water there although still it doesn't look particularly nice

00:11:14.200 does it i'm feeling not just looking at it to be honest yeah there's there's accounts of people

00:11:19.720 going to jeddah like look i knew i'd bring up lawrence of arabia sooner right here we go of

00:11:24.140 course elephant out of the room going to jeddah which is obviously in saudi arabia on the coast on

00:11:29.220 the hejaz um just even for people that are used to living in egypt it's sort of horribly hot

00:11:36.220 it's sort of it's it's very very difficult to live and survive there there's a few places

00:11:42.200 in the world isn't there like phoenix arizona is one of the hottest places again if you don't have

00:11:47.300 uh air con everywhere if you're not used to it it's uh it's a difficult place is that where death

00:11:54.660 valley is uh in america death valley is nevada yeah but it's the same part of the world right

00:12:00.560 absolutely the same part of the world yeah yeah um but yeah i mean there's lots of places in the

00:12:05.440 world where if you're not if you don't know what you're doing you're in trouble quite quickly

00:12:08.660 aren't there yeah very very very cold places like northern norway fact check live apparently

00:12:13.500 according to google at least death valley is in california oh yeah there we go there you go

00:12:18.620 i always thought it was nevada i stand corrected

00:12:20.420 so in the mojave northern mojave desert there we go so yes we do fact check ourselves at load

00:12:27.500 seaters and uh you know there would be a fedora tipping actually guy out there

00:12:31.980 you know actually it makes us good at our craft that sort of thing so one of the first news stories

00:12:39.500 to come out of this i found quite amusing so the boss one of the bosses of this project

00:12:46.180 was accused of racism misogyny and corruption here we go i thought it would have been uh racism

00:12:51.300 misogyny and sexism but no it's a new word this one this time a saudi guy was accused of racism

00:12:57.680 no oh okay it's the westerners they've built so i'm going to read a little bit about this because

00:13:03.220 he said some things that are very offensive and definitely not funny okay i don't want to hear it

00:13:09.780 no no laughing you're not allowed to laugh at what he says because it's obviously very offensive right

00:13:14.480 of course you can't laugh okay so wayne borg is the guy who said this he's the managing director

00:13:20.840 of the media and it and i'm going to read from this article in one incident after three workers on

00:13:26.120 the project had died borg said a whole bunch of people die so we've got to have a meeting on

00:13:30.680 sunday night okay a bit frustrated perhaps that they've got to have a meeting about it and then 0.99

00:13:37.040 he went on to call a south asian migrant worker at neom an effing moron adding that is why white 1.00

00:13:43.660 people are at the top of the pecking order oh i heard that samson i'm sure that was just a cough um 0.99

00:13:52.580 the comments were made on a phone call and the audio of which was obtained by the wall street

00:13:57.120 journal i don't know why the wall street journal is trying to rat out people working on projects in

00:14:01.480 saudi arabia in another conversation regarding the workers deaths borg said you can't train for 0.99

00:14:06.260 stupidity and the white blokes are at the top of the tree in a separate incident borg was summoned 1.00

00:14:13.820 by human resources after calling a black female employee a black s um right and uh in a message to 1.00

00:14:21.360 the employees in question borg reportedly said i missed you and your ass is better than beyonce's 1.00

00:14:27.060 with kiss emojis according to a summary of the employee employees grievances in a meeting about 0.99

00:14:32.520 the incident borg referred to that effing episode i have with that black b word 0.90

00:14:37.600 and uh a lot of cohesion in the workplace then and there's one final thing according to other audio

00:14:46.500 clips borg refer to women from the gulf as transvestites and they lewd jokes about islam and

00:14:51.880 sexual positions so samson's cracking up if the mics aren't picking that up our producer's actually 0.91

00:14:58.460 cracking up um it seems like a guy who's just uh off the leash doesn't care what he says well he's

00:15:03.880 in saudi arabia there's no hate speech laws well not like those ones anyway still you never know

00:15:10.220 when the new york what was it the new york wall street journal wall street journal you never know

00:15:13.580 when the wall street journal is tapping your phone you never know they're probably all the time isn't

00:15:19.060 it everyone's surprised so they've replaced this guy now with uh someone called michael lynch not the

00:15:27.460 one that you know um the the british one he's some other guy he's a veteran of arts and culture and

00:15:34.060 an executive of some kind isn't the one that in britain to do with the railways or unions or

00:15:40.460 something like that something commie i don't know but anyway um that's not the only controversy that

00:15:47.240 they've faced uh yeah saudi forces are told to kill people who refuse to move from the land that the

00:15:53.140 line's going to be in and apparently um they've already killed one person who refused to move they

00:15:59.520 just shot them oh mostly peaceful eco project it is yes and it's good for the environment

00:16:06.000 randomly well not randomly but shooting people who don't want to be kicked out of their homes for a

00:16:12.060 vanity project well that's a classic house of al-soud again back in the very beginning of the 20th

00:16:18.620 century the uh there's all sorts of basically a three or even four-way sort of civil war between

00:16:24.420 various better with what were then bedouin tribes of saudi arabia and the house of al-soud

00:16:29.380 just happened to win essentially but yeah completely completely cutthroat warlord killer types

00:16:36.440 so so the interesting thing that's nothing the interesting thing here is lots of westerners are

00:16:42.120 sort of going to be penned to be moved into these uh projects because of course there's the line and

00:16:47.720 the other things as well sort of these influencer types and uh celebrities and things like that and

00:16:54.240 of course they're going to be moved into these nice uh modern futuristic uh facilities built on

00:16:59.540 the skeletons of the dead residents of the peninsula um which sort of casts a bit of a bad light on the

00:17:05.580 whole thing that people have to be shot after they're moved out of their homes to build this

00:17:11.340 this madness are you allowed to drink in there i don't know because obviously oh that's good point

00:17:18.200 muslim countries are drier but usually in the emirates or qatar or something if you're in the 1.00

00:17:22.600 hotel or whatever you're allowed to still i think that's what a lot of westerners europeans anyway

00:17:28.080 that's one of their first questions what sort of laws are going to be is it well i'm guessing it

00:17:33.240 would be the same i would say so yeah well i think it's a way to get people sort of invested in saudi

00:17:39.020 arabia yeah of course they want to move away from oil and so they want to turn into a tourism hub but

00:17:44.440 if you look at the average temperatures of saudi arabia i don't see that catching on

00:17:48.700 a lot of europeans don't necessarily like saudi arabian level heat and uh they have been moving

00:17:56.000 people in um eventually but here's a picture of the construction oh here we go just a fleet of

00:18:03.460 diggers digging in barren wasteland brilliant whereabouts actually interest is it in saudi arabia

00:18:11.240 i'll i'll be going to the very end i'll be going to a map and you can actually see the line

00:18:16.500 carved into the earth from the satellite that from google earth and uh here's a video i'm not going to

00:18:25.120 you know play the audio to save you but here's someone moving into this isn't actually the line

00:18:31.780 itself as you can see it's not a line it is what amounts to you know a holiday inn hotel looking thing

00:18:38.780 but this is the village for the people involved in constructing it and this has been doing the

00:18:43.120 rounds and lots of people have been saying well the line looks very different it's not actually the

00:18:46.720 line it's people being moved in but if this is what the construction village that's meant to entice

00:18:51.420 these western titans of industry that are going to create this this you know epoch defining structure

00:18:58.440 looks like then it's not going to be that good really it looks like a generic western hotel

00:19:03.480 she better not be caught outside without a bloke with her well or or a head uncovered she better

00:19:11.980 walk behind him i think for these um villages because they're just european strongholds basically

00:19:18.300 she doesn't have to worry about driving i guess that's true yeah yeah well they have it all within

00:19:22.980 walking distance funnily enough which uh they've sort of accounted for that um and here's another one

00:19:28.380 it's uh sort of showing her evening in the desert as this this mother i think her husband must be

00:19:36.700 working on the project and she's sort of a stay-at-home wife which you know fair enough looking after 1.00

00:19:43.300 her kids can't fault her for that well done if anything but this is what's being shared about the

00:19:49.340 project at the minute this is what is circulating uh it just looks like a regular western hotel at the

00:19:55.220 minute from you know obviously they're not going to put all of their effort into the construction

00:19:59.320 village gosh but there's nothing really to write home about you know there's some fancy lifts perhaps

00:20:05.700 but it's not that interesting they're kaffir right they're non-believers aren't they i mean is it is 1.00

00:20:11.920 it really the right land for them to be in um well it's it's interesting you know it's looks like

00:20:17.200 and handsome sorry i'm gonna mute that quickly um but you get the idea there's hardly anyone around as

00:20:23.100 well which i found interesting like it's basically empty it's sort of for show it has a sort of north

00:20:28.320 korean vibe where there are various people sort of milling about sort of making it look busy but a lot

00:20:35.340 of things are set up for the westerners uh to be nice but you get you can see actual saudi arabians

00:20:41.620 knocking about in the background there um so maybe it's just a bad time video but it's too clinical

00:20:47.500 hmm because i you see these types of hotels and places anyway sometimes evening i guess you could

00:20:53.820 argue like in the uk you see these types of culver sacks or blocks new builds it's too clinical there's

00:21:00.920 no life to it there's nothing it's just you're you're taking something with no life and then just

00:21:05.760 plonking it somewhere with hot weather it's not it's not bad it's not awful it's just a little bit

00:21:11.680 bland isn't it a bit bland yes and i mean for a construction village i suppose it's not too bad

00:21:18.140 um so you can't really fault it but i wanted to show it and sort of correct some of the narratives

00:21:22.480 and she does confirm here um it on her tiktok that i hate that i have to say that um that it's

00:21:29.580 the construction camp and not the actual city itself a potemkin construction camp

00:21:34.720 all that looks to be honest here it is we're being really rude about it i'd probably rather

00:21:39.820 live there than swindon oh it's not all right i'm less likely to get stabbed there for no reason than

00:21:45.600 in swindon town center swindon feels a bit like jedda these days doesn't it well yeah quite uh and

00:21:51.440 here's one construction camp here's another uh one side by side um so you can kind of see that

00:21:57.380 this is what's being the the sort of social media posts and the influence has been flown in

00:22:02.420 showing the lifestyle on the camp that's what's going on and you can see they've got like sports

00:22:06.580 fields and um there's some swimming pools up there maybe you know that it doesn't look that bad um

00:22:12.960 it's okay it's just a bit soulless and bland it's sort of a bit like dubai right you know people

00:22:18.460 perhaps might like to visit but it is sort of taking the worst artificial aspects of western society

00:22:24.980 and making it all about that isn't it it's sort of very consumerist very artificial very

00:22:29.940 superficially neat and tidy and nice but there's no soul to it even just looking at it from the

00:22:36.400 videos to the giant magnifying glass running along the peninsula you for me i'm getting cabin fever

00:22:44.140 even just looking at it like you're just so boxed in and it just oh no no don't go outside no no you

00:22:50.320 don't don't go out of the area it's unsafe or it's you know it's dangerous it has been pointed out as

00:22:56.020 well there are six cricket grounds so that might well be for the foreign workers they're bussing 0.99

00:23:01.420 in because a certain type of person the saudis usually fly in to do a lot of their construction

00:23:07.100 and those people tend to really like cricket and uh spoiler alert it's not the english uh just

00:23:13.200 throwing that one out there six though yes that's interesting isn't it only ever need one at a time

00:23:20.160 but maybe two absolute most six is steely since she posted these uh videos her account has gone 0.97

00:23:25.740 private and if you search her name oh it did come up in the searches but you you can't actually watch

00:23:32.500 these uh anymore i imagine she's probably been told by the saudis not to post because it's received

00:23:38.420 criticism so you can see you can't view them anymore since they've been searched and there have

00:23:42.900 been other people as well i'm just gonna have a look at some pictures there you go another lady wearing 1.00

00:23:47.700 a lot of makeup wandering around very genet it looks sort of like um if someone were to create

00:23:53.260 a sort of sci-fi version of an american suburb it's like something out of edward scissorhands

00:23:58.720 but yeah it's a similar sort of thing um here they are people sort of

00:24:04.500 selling the the lifestyle of people moving out there and uh she saw the words climate crisis i was

00:24:12.480 just switched off here's a bbc journalist a sports journalist i think she also works for other

00:24:18.080 publications sort of doing a photo op here um outside of it trying to make it look all glamorous

00:24:23.860 candid you're allowed to show that much net arm and ankle i don't good question you're really allowed

00:24:29.760 to do that good question and uh because we've been very mean i thought it'd be nice to try and find

00:24:34.680 something that makes it look nice um roads yeah in the morning when i don't want the horrible pop

00:24:41.500 music though sorry um there we go oh there's a burger van okay he's got plenty of those here

00:24:47.660 yeah but despite looking very empty relative to the infrastructure you know it doesn't look terrible

00:24:55.040 you know that's nice sunset you've got to give it that oh yeah look at that i'm sure that greenhouse

00:24:59.840 is going to be lovely yeah saudi sun but there we go and if i had enough friends and family i

00:25:06.500 probably would rather live there than rumford there's even moisture there on the street

00:25:12.900 i mean yeah it just would probably get a little bit boring after a while wouldn't it i mean

00:25:18.980 after you get bored of cricket dino heaven dino heaven that's what samson says and uh yeah i think

00:25:26.080 it's sort of like dubai in that if you're sort of new money you can afford to go on holiday and you

00:25:33.800 don't mind vapidity then it might be a nice place to go um but i wanted to end off the segment just

00:25:40.800 have a quick look um so it's sort of the saudi arabian uh counterpart to the sinai peninsula here

00:25:49.160 so you might be able to start seeing where the line is where is it so it's a bit easier to see

00:25:57.380 it here that that's where it is and you can see there you go the line there we go and you can see

00:26:04.040 it going all the way along here um so this is one of the other projects that they're doing down here

00:26:10.720 they're doing i think it's an island hotel thing gosh and it looks a little bit grim and dense

00:26:17.020 personally uh but it's meant to be a sort of playpen for billionaires where they can park their yachts

00:26:23.440 up in the big dock yeah and uh have an island where they can have everything catered for

00:26:28.640 um there's another one here another one yeah this one looks a little bit nicer in relation to the

00:26:35.240 actual red sea give you a good oh sharm will shake is just yeah across the road you might as well go

00:26:39.860 there instead so it's gonna be like along here you can sort of see the line it's a shame that the

00:26:45.080 quality is not great but you can follow it oh yeah i can see and then it goes through here and

00:26:51.400 then it goes through the mountains massive yeah it is they're only getting a couple of hundred

00:26:58.620 thousand now instead of the million well three hundred thousand yeah you can see here they're

00:27:03.620 digging out the foundations because you know it's was it 500 meters tall so it's gonna need some

00:27:09.700 big foundations they're also digging through what is effectively mountains uh you know to to give you

00:27:16.180 an idea this is the sort of terrain that they're digging around a giant giant rock yeah so yes it seems

00:27:26.680 like one of the biggest vanity projects yeah in human history yeah um you can zoom in and see what's

00:27:34.660 going on obviously this was taken at some point in 2024 i'm not sure when it was so it might be

00:27:40.660 further along now but you can see effectively just a line in the sand is what it is now there's a

00:27:49.140 fishing spot nice oh yeah you can't go there because you're in the line that looks all right to be fair

00:27:54.140 you know a bit of a trek from the line you'll probably die of exposure by the time you get to the

00:27:58.620 fishing spot but uh there we go as long as you're not caught you know holding hands or kissing your

00:28:04.280 fiance or wife or girlfriend i think because of course then you're in trouble that's true but but

00:28:08.220 what do you reckon good idea bad idea terrible it's absurd of course absurd terrible would you hate it

00:28:15.380 the thing is you remember they tried to do the sea reclamation thing in the emirates oh it went

00:28:22.040 terribly didn't in the sea and make little fake islands completely oh right and for a while

00:28:27.960 lots of rich people like footballers and stuff would buy one up before it's even been built

00:28:32.600 because they they thought it would be some of the best real estate in the world it would be so

00:28:37.840 desirable and then it turns out that it's not at all because no one wants to live there they've got

00:28:43.540 to continue dump sand on it to keep it even staying there and who really wants to live ultimately

00:28:49.060 in the emirates or in an islamic country if you're not a muslim who wants that it's really repressive 0.54

00:28:54.940 you can put all the pretty ladies in makeup and summer dress that you want but we all know the 0.99

00:28:59.820 reality is it's a very repressive regime so no one wants to live there really i mean even la there's

00:29:05.900 the old joke like no one wants to live in downtown la there's nothing to do downtown right right so

00:29:10.960 even la right people even the san francisco until fairly recently a paradise city but now it's a bit

00:29:19.520 crappy and literally shitty so no everyone's just flooding away no one wants to live there now

00:29:24.480 so in order to make people flood somewhere in the hundreds of thousands or in a million people it has 0.91

00:29:31.500 to be genuinely genuinely desirable and the middle of arabia isn't i wholeheartedly agree but i thought

00:29:39.660 it'd be good to have an update on this because i've been keeping an eye on it for years now and i will

00:29:44.060 be keeping an eye on it continuing into 2030 at this point because i don't think it's going to get

00:29:49.160 to its target i don't think there's going to be many people living in it in six years time to be

00:29:52.860 honest should go as if it's just a line in the sand at the minute should go there with a go yeah carl

00:29:57.640 make it happen but yeah there's your update um it looks bad i've got a bunch of comments to read here

00:30:03.740 uh so lots of vids have been made explaining details of why these cities will be nightmarish to live in

00:30:09.760 hopefully the influencers will move there so we can watch the trash take itself out here here um 0.83

00:30:14.920 six cricket grounds saudi arabia approaches city planning like sim city players mid-maxing

00:30:19.620 recreation scores yeah that's true um i'm not surprised the guy was ratted out to the newspaper

00:30:25.040 with co-workers like mohammed bin offended and imam bin saw um bo uh you talk about being um it being

00:30:34.020 an immediate survival situation outside um as if it's a bug for an autocratic regime it's a

00:30:39.700 feature to keep them in their place that's a fair point yeah yeah yeah hang on why not send the

00:30:44.880 refugees to saudi arabia um they have need for a massive labor force and the housing is being

00:30:49.720 provided i'm sure the saudis will even let the families come good point uh not if you've seen

00:30:55.040 their border policy uh they shoot people en masse and uh the line is the construction of a real life

00:31:01.080 rat utopia experiment that was the title of our initial segment yes so uh you know great minds think

00:31:06.640 alike anyway sorry i went on for a bit longer than i intended there would you like a mouse mat as well

00:31:12.200 speaking of mice i think i'm all right okay no worries all set okay um i don't know about you

00:31:21.180 guys modern art sucks i agree yeah of course bow yeah nearly all abstract art yeah is uh is a joke

00:31:30.140 i find bad joke i find that you know you come across some art that you go yeah that's quite nice but 0.98

00:31:35.360 then you forget the artist's name by the end of the day and there's nothing that appealing to me

00:31:41.400 anymore to be honest because of the times that we're living in um so you may have heard the news

00:31:45.880 recently about the fourth plinth in london but before we go ahead we have a magazine it's not just

00:31:56.200 any magazine it is islander magazine and it is a very good magazine it's got lots of good things in it

00:32:01.880 it's very aesthetically pleasing it's a beautiful magazine and uh yes we've got lots of good authors

00:32:06.800 in it we have carl benjamin dr nema parvini morgoth's review uh rog nationalist marcus folin

00:32:13.740 dave green stefan molyneux christopher yolif jolif something like that i don't know how to pronounce

00:32:18.200 his name and lots of other people as well some surprises in there so if you want to get this for

00:32:22.760 a limited time because we did the first edition it did very well it's no longer for sale you can't

00:32:27.480 get this magazine anymore it is not available anywhere so if you want to get this limited

00:32:32.420 edition very high quality product buy it now before it's out of the store beautifully done

00:32:38.760 beautifully done uh speaking of something not so beautiful however let's take a look at the fourth

00:32:46.120 plinth artwork um where it's the guardian have written a lovely article about it of course

00:32:51.700 london's fourth plinth plinth artwork aims to unite trans community around the world

00:32:58.380 um trafalgar square piece by mexican artist theresa margoles is made of masks depicting faces of

00:33:08.200 transgender and non-binary people and as you can see there it's just on top of the plinth with lots

00:33:14.980 of people's faces on it so but normally when people wear a mask i'm going to be careful what i say here

00:33:21.580 you you are embodying something that is not your usual self yes and you normally masks express a

00:33:30.080 certain significance of hiding one's real identity an alter ego yeah something like that normally it's

00:33:36.220 it's sort of you dress up for an occasion or something like that well that's correct when we

00:33:42.340 all wear masks metaphorically speaking very good hope people got that reference i'm completely mad

00:33:50.260 um that's so ugly yeah that's one of the ugliest things oh yeah uh it's a collection of plastic

00:33:57.900 is that plasticine it looks like plasticine masks like death masks it says a towering cuboid

00:34:03.240 made of more than 300 masks depicting the faces of transgender and non-binary people

00:34:09.400 this year's fourth plinth artwork has been described as a piece designed to quote

00:34:14.620 unite the trans community around the world the mexican artist theresa margoles was flanked by

00:34:21.460 members of her country's trans community as mil vesis un instante i think i've said that right 0.95

00:34:28.380 a thousand times in an instant it's called was unwrapping in trafalgar square on wednesday now

00:34:34.720 obviously this has been doing the rounds as it would you know putting the fourth plinth as a

00:34:39.840 just faces of trans i'm trying to be careful of my words uh transgender people and the non-binaries 1.00

00:34:48.440 um i don't get it sorry i i'm gonna just gonna i don't get it so what was the purpose of this

00:34:55.840 as stated by the artist of course not the actual trans communities so you know how how are people

00:35:00.900 united by this statue exactly well it says each of the masks that make up of uh mil vesis un

00:35:08.080 instante has a name and features traces of the person on whom it was based with lipstick smears

00:35:15.540 and false eyelashes visible on the work i mean they're digging them they're digging themselves

00:35:22.020 their own hole i'm totally honest i believe that is the artist in front of it she doesn't look too happy

00:35:27.080 uh might i point that out is it is it a she i don't know i don't want to speculate just in case

00:35:34.360 because we're not allowed to in case we get arrested troding as artist um yeah oh there you go there's a

00:35:40.000 close-up it's it's very sterilized i think it's a public health i'd be a public health hazard

00:35:46.760 kind of a certain scene in the silence of the lambs uh leather faces is not his fine work

00:35:56.040 um but then i thought well i haven't really i don't really know much about um sort of the fourth

00:36:01.080 plinth in trafalgar square i'm sure you guys do a lot more uh and like the a bit of the history about

00:36:06.280 it because i know that that has been left blank after a certain someone came into the country

00:36:12.440 um you know about this modern idea i think bow well yeah just obviously there's trafalgar square

00:36:19.080 with uh deltons column in the middle yeah and uh the other three what are they uh george george

00:36:24.680 the fourth the prince regent um sir henry haverlock and charles napier so great all all of them great

00:36:33.800 sort of victorian or obviously the prince regent pre-victorian heroes and then there's one corner the

00:36:40.440 fourth plinth where they put other things on it i think was it not that long ago i think maybe under

00:36:45.560 ken livingston when they decided they would just rotate whatever's on that yeah fourth plinth they

00:36:51.000 will um just keep rotating it and of course immediately because it was already the late

00:36:55.080 90s already 2000s and under a red ken a communist um immediately put something disgusting and degenerate 0.51

00:37:03.880 and perverted on it where possible so for example like there's just been loads of different

00:37:08.600 sculptures put on it and they're nearly always revolting and ugly nearly always and this sort 0.54

00:37:16.280 of takes a biscuit for me everything about that is alien of course it is right it's mex it's a mexican 1.00

00:37:23.080 artist with the faces of mexican people put in that cube which is alien to the english aesthetic um 0.98

00:37:30.920 everything about it is weird and wrong and doesn't fit so but that's why though you ask why why

00:37:37.720 well that's why because it's deliberate yeah it's deliberately subversive it's deliberately i think

00:37:43.480 to juxtapose people like havelock and the prince regent and and napier and of course it's also right

00:37:51.000 in front of uh the national gallery or is it national portrait gallery they're next door to each other no

00:37:56.120 it's the national gallery which is this great sort of classical edifice it looks like uh the front of

00:38:03.240 the path gone or whatever sort of um again just classical classical lines easy on the eye and so

00:38:12.120 and so the commies have got an opportunity to put something disgusting in the middle of all of that

00:38:17.080 now the perfect symmetry of trafalgar square so yeah let's put something gross and weird there

00:38:23.240 that's already enough disgusting things in london as is it's true you mentioned the walkie-talkie in the

00:38:27.640 last segment that's one well shadiq khan and westminster i guess it's sort of westminster

00:38:33.160 council i don't know it might might not be but um yeah it's just it's completely overrun by

00:38:40.440 weirdos and freaks that are going to you know if they could if they would they would rip down nelson's

00:38:45.720 column yeah they would rip down the other three statues yeah they would replace anything that reminds 0.93

00:38:50.600 us of our heritage and history they would do away with it sweep it away and replace it with something

00:38:56.840 freakish if they could but at the moment all they control is that fourth plinth so that's what they

00:39:01.880 that's what they do well i thought then we could have a broader discussion a bit about art contemporary

00:39:09.080 art modern art as i've given away at the start of the segment i hate it i hate all of it actually 0.59

00:39:15.080 there's nothing that i really like actually and i'm you know i i watched and i'll we'll talk about

00:39:21.480 at the end um but i watched roger scruton's uh documentary why beauty matters i believe it's

00:39:27.960 called it's a very important documentary because he goes through modern art and how it's just been

00:39:33.400 completely perversed um it's subverted completely and i wanted to go through some of the top 10 most

00:39:42.440 influential contemporary british artists according to this website um angela edwards

00:39:48.920 and just see if they're any good really i mean already i don't know what that is

00:39:54.360 if you squint you can almost make out something there's a moon water something else i haven't

00:40:01.800 and then a dream of nonsense done by someone who isn't any good at art there you go that's what that

00:40:06.520 as contemporary artists um the top 10 i don't know who who this is oh yeah yeah of course born

00:40:15.000 in croydon 1963 uh she's considered uh one of the young british artists who rose to prominence in the

00:40:22.200 90s um she's quite famous she once did an installation which was just bad her unmade bed oh yes we'll be 0.99

00:40:30.120 getting on to that one of her things ah that is the same woman um she's a moron yeah francis bacon 0.98

00:40:37.160 is another one obviously not the francis bacon different one there's two francis bacons yeah 0.99

00:40:43.400 one's good one's less so i mean can you make out what those are on the right yeah they're nightmarish

00:40:48.840 visions of someone who isn't very good at art again it's anyway didn't um what's his name

00:40:55.240 hieronymus bosch already do that sort of thing with uh the the garden of earthly delights and

00:41:01.000 things like that in that was what 13th century where he was creating these weird creatures right

00:41:07.400 and and all that sort of thing has been there and done it about 700 years ago me and josh did

00:41:13.400 a piece of content ages ago didn't we like two years ago or something talking a deep dive long

00:41:17.320 form conversation conversations about modern art and we went through all this and one of my observations

00:41:23.880 is that it usually boils down to i talked about rothgo a fair bit in that what it boils down to

00:41:28.200 is the reality is these are people that can't do fine art no they're not capable of it people always

00:41:34.680 argue with me about that with rothgo oh no look at his early stuff he was actually good no he wasn't

00:41:39.000 no he wasn't his contemporaries said he was very poor as a draftsman at being able to draw essentially

00:41:44.680 so you end up doing crap weird stuff and then talking big about it exactly and if there's enough

00:41:54.680 dupes to buy it buy into it and actually buy it yeah then you can make a living that way but 0.97

00:42:00.600 don't ask me to buy into the nonsense and it's usually after you're dead it's usually when you

00:42:05.720 make the most you know i i like silent hill stuff like that all the weird creatures in that and the

00:42:11.320 artwork in that i can appreciate that but i wouldn't want it on my same yeah i wouldn't want

00:42:17.720 it on my wall i think it's i think it's at least interesting like weird creatures i i can kind of

00:42:23.160 humor that a little bit more we actually talked about this one didn't we david hockney yeah uh born

00:42:29.800 in bradford uh attended bradford college of um of art from 53 to 57 mandatory army service

00:42:37.800 influential figure in the pop art movement with paintings and installations like the splash a

00:42:43.240 bigger splash and american collectors see they're not all the same if you look see that hockney

00:42:48.280 paintings actually exhibits that he is okay if he wants to be right um he's obviously he's made the

00:42:55.720 contradiction not to be there's there's there are some examples someone like picasso right could he

00:43:02.040 decide by the end of his life anyway he completely abandoned yeah uh good art but he was capable of

00:43:08.200 it yeah i think jackson pollock again was capable deliberately chose not to so there's two different

00:43:14.040 types do you think it's laziness well this i think there's two different types there's someone like

00:43:18.280 cockney or picasso who made a deliberate decision then there's people that were never good at it and

00:43:24.600 never good artists in the first place like rothko yeah um so i actually make a distinction between these

00:43:30.040 those different types of people like if you ask tracy emin to make something photo quality

00:43:35.320 with oils on canvas she wouldn't be i'm sure she wouldn't be able she can't even make her bed 1.00

00:43:40.520 right just say him anyway um she really captures the lifelessness of her eyes yeah well there to be

00:43:48.920 fair uh this one's jenny savill unfortunate surname yeah um but it's too close to yeah i feel a bit

00:43:55.800 sorry for her for that but um yeah it's not her fault um she has she has become renowned uh for

00:44:01.720 paintings of fleshly women which often include self-portraits um artists exploring the physicality

00:44:08.440 of the female body and has been compared to is it lucian freud is that how you say it lucian yeah

00:44:14.200 uh in her style of painting so that's a documented pedophile who's in ford i don't know

00:44:20.120 is he the one that lived in uh portugal where madeleine mccann maybe it's one of the other

00:44:25.320 threads anyway um you can say you can tell she's got some skill some ability but how narcissistic though

00:44:32.680 what just what a narcissist that's that's how i feel about most artists anyway really like majority of

00:44:38.920 them um and i believe that oh no we've got some oh this or damien hirst just someone's skull but uh

00:44:48.040 funny thing about damien hirst is he he often actually admits these sorts of things yeah he

00:44:52.120 will so i've seen him say about his own work occasionally yeah it's sort of the emperor's

00:44:56.200 new clothes it's funny that people take me that this seriously oh interesting not always though it

00:45:00.360 depends what mood you catch him in but he's yeah but that's the that's the funny paradox about it

00:45:06.200 though isn't it because you do anti-art let's say and it becomes artistic it becomes part of that

00:45:12.840 like the the can of s oh yes yeah like that yeah we should talk about the the can of campbell soup

00:45:22.200 by oh that's oh that's yeah that's yeah no we're talking to the can of little literal um

00:45:28.200 all right feces yeah yeah we talked about that in our series yeah i've whacked that from my memory

00:45:34.680 yeah an artist selling it sorry to bring it back up selling his own excrement uh uh another one

00:45:40.600 there you go leucine freud um grandfather was sigmund for uh freud uh became one of the most

00:45:48.680 well one of the founding fathers of contemporary era so he's kind of to to blame really well in a way

00:45:54.840 freud wasn't good for psychology and he's not good for art there you go um state of that uh rich

00:46:01.560 hamilton never heard of him see what is a produce there on the right hand side yeah like what's okay

00:46:08.760 that is that is a nonsense if you take that seriously it's a practical joke that's on you

00:46:14.360 if you take it seriously yeah i could have produced that at two years old yeah you know it's not difficult

00:46:21.000 i don't know what that is barbara hepworth or sort of organic sculpting it looks like um abstract

00:46:27.960 sculpture yeah it's the kind of thing that rich people would have yeah like a large foyer oh this

00:46:34.440 has got to be banksy yeah arguably i'm going to really upset people with this arguably the most

00:46:39.320 overrated the i i don't like banks it banksy at all i used to when i was growing up when i was a kid

00:46:46.360 because i thought it was always so anti-establishment so cool and then you look back and you go

00:46:50.680 is it though it's very pro-establishment and also yeah i don't think graffiti is good no

00:46:57.160 i think it's a public nuisance and i think he encourages people to go out and graffiti nonsense 0.83

00:47:02.040 everywhere yeah and the fact that people carry water for him is ridiculous because it's all all

00:47:07.400 you're doing is making a stencil and spraying paint for it yeah as i say yes stencil work oh well 0.50

00:47:13.080 done slow hand clap yeah you made a stencil now i hate banksy and everything he is yeah i you i mean

00:47:21.480 i could go further and say i don't even see graffiti as art at all no really that's fair enough i don't

00:47:28.280 either i don't see it as was a lot of it's like tagging for gang stuff and oh yeah you've being

00:47:36.120 rebellious for the sake of it there's nothing artistic there he's um this is a conspiracy theory of course

00:47:42.200 he was 100 percent um because of the work that he's done over the years for the decades

00:47:48.200 and never been caught never been charged never been arrested can still retain his identity he's

00:47:56.360 a hundred percent in bed with the establishment 100 that's what i believe well from all the puff

00:48:01.880 pieces written in the guardian and you know all that sort of stuff talking about banksy like he's some

00:48:06.360 sort you know sort of hero like working class hero or something no of course not just mental

00:48:12.200 so that's banksy as well um and peter doig this guy i don't know is that how you say it doig i

00:48:20.920 don't know it doesn't deserve the respect yeah that's like a year 10 effort isn't it if i painted

00:48:26.120 that as with no artistic skill whatsoever i'd still be ashamed yeah there you go yeah if someone in a

00:48:33.160 year nine or year 10 class produced that the teacher should be oh this is borderline whether we're going

00:48:37.080 to put it up yeah right so we've got on the back and that's it we've got a couple of tests we want

00:48:42.600 you to take to find out your mental capabilities don't worry you'll be fine but art has had its

00:48:50.520 controversy of course and here are 10 controversial artworks that have changed history according to

00:48:56.200 magazine artland um couldn't even try to pronounce that apologies but it's french edward manny um

00:49:05.800 uh guessing the unbashed presence of nude women surrounded by fully clothed men in the dress of 0.95

00:49:17.880 that period uh scandalized the art world and even public it's funny because in the ancient world

00:49:25.720 two and a half thousand years earlier he was able to show a bare-breasted venus or something yeah but

00:49:31.560 the prudish mid-19th century was not so happy with it uh next one is fountain i think this is a very

00:49:38.760 famous one yeah well this was urinal this was just satire though wasn't it gonna mention it earlier yeah

00:49:45.000 this is where the first comes up the idea that um it's a joke yeah it's a satire and people the

00:49:52.040 problem is with the art world they take things so you have to look for meaning and things and yeah man and

00:49:57.960 just but you can reject meaning on meaningless things can't you exactly you that's a problem

00:50:05.720 in the world is that trying to read too much meaning into things can be detrimental to you

00:50:10.680 can affect your entire view of reality in a detrimental way it's like um beauty and i think

00:50:17.880 we've had a conversation we were doing the c.s lewis segment about what is beauty what makes something

00:50:22.520 beauty is it objective or is it subjective uh beauty is objective right yeah well there's an

00:50:30.440 example i think it's in wales potentially of a waterfall that was named three different times

00:50:36.200 it was recognized as significant as warranting a name and the name translates to waterfall waterfall

00:50:42.040 but the notion is that three different cultures saw it as significant enough yes to give it a name

00:50:49.000 because it's beautiful because everyone can identify that a waterfall is beautiful in fact

00:50:53.080 there have been studies done whereby they showed chimpanzees pictures of waterfalls and chimpanzees

00:51:00.280 look at waterfalls more than other things because supposedly they would have some sort of perception of it

00:51:07.160 so even non-human primates can identify this stuff which seems to indicate that there is something

00:51:12.920 tangible and real to it if non-human animals can do so exactly um what's next picasso um the 1937 mural

00:51:25.240 which depicts the massacre of basque village as well it's i i wouldn't necessarily call it good art but

00:51:33.400 it's at least interesting it's kind of it's funny in a sort of silly juvenile way you know it's terrible

00:51:40.120 art but as i say um there are examples of picasso as a much much younger man it's not like he didn't

00:51:47.800 possess the ability to do something beautiful so he's making a conscious decision there but yeah i

00:51:53.480 hate it that's disgusting um yeah uh next one was jackson pollock which is just i hate this sort of 0.70

00:52:02.920 stuff in the jazz age yeah they've lost their mind at this point yeah they've bought into the duchamp

00:52:08.280 fountain thing at this point they've they're starting to believe their own yeah it's because

00:52:12.200 they're all on nsd they're all on something that you know they're trapped in their own minds and it's

00:52:17.160 and it's jazz that's some of the best music representation yeah i know yeah i know that's

00:52:21.960 the argument red hot chili peppers better on smack you know i've heard that i've heard that before

00:52:26.600 they're better when they use an effects pedal uh you mentioned about the soup cans yeah

00:52:32.760 yeah yeah see now see now it's nothing now it's sort of self-parody if that even yeah um and uh

00:52:43.000 no no um then you got the real sort of we got blast for me of course um

00:52:49.480 sure well let's move on just move on from that because it's just

00:52:55.000 i just get so bored of stuff like that i mean it's always that it's always it's always jesus christ

00:53:02.920 every single time well these people are nearly always very very childlike yes childlike so the

00:53:09.480 idea of breaking a taboo yeah so i'll put a urinal and call it a fountain and make you pretend that

00:53:15.800 you're looking at a good piece of art teehee or we'll we'll make it we'll make it we'll have a tin and

00:53:22.120 fill it with actual excrement yeah yeah i know yeah all right we'll do it am i so inventive and

00:53:28.680 funny look at me we'll ridicule christ oh yeah it's like yeah nine year old stuff yeah indeed um

00:53:38.360 i don't i've never understood this one the dropping a hand dynasty urn 1995.

00:53:43.960 again because it's a taboo thing yeah no normal person would do that or it's true so

00:53:51.080 so i'll do it and look at me again very very nice and not nihilistic um narcissistic self-absorbed yeah

00:53:58.360 i thought the hand dynasty collapsed 1 900 years ago i mean i'm not

00:54:03.560 hmm so it's a 200 year old urn hang on a minute never mind i get all my dynasties mixed up maybe

00:54:10.200 there's the hand i've come back more than once it might be just keep on coming back the hand yeah

00:54:14.120 and there's the bed one oh it's drivel isn't it unfortunately i believe that is not with us

00:54:19.400 anymore i believe it got burnt down loads of tracy evans art was held in a big lock up somewhere in

00:54:24.760 east london and it accidentally completely burnt down one time and the world better off the bed was

00:54:29.640 in there so real shame cry and shame that do the clerks and meme like oh no anyways i don't think my 0.53

00:54:37.080 bedroom's ever got that messy in my entire life either so she's a dirty lady i think there's a 1.00

00:54:42.520 huge tampon in there at some point oh again just deliberately gross uh pretty sure that was an

00:54:48.040 element of it um can you imagine people standing around it looking at it from different angles

00:54:53.880 very interesting i can see what she's saying i wish i'd known about this when i was a teenager

00:54:58.680 my parents would come into my room and say you need to tidy your room and say actually this is art

00:55:03.800 yeah yeah excuse me you're not cultured well of course there's a clip around the ear probably

00:55:09.160 there's different types of art of course and i'm being a bit facetious i guess if i say oh it's all

00:55:14.760 bad modern art's all bad you know like i said earlier you might find something a painting or a

00:55:20.440 whatever a graphic design that you go that's very appealing to the eye i really like that but you

00:55:26.200 forget the artist's name by the end of the day um and you just you don't really remember it it

00:55:31.800 doesn't have a cultural impact it's not like some of the ones on this timeline like renaissance

00:55:37.800 you can point to renaissance and say it had a cultural significance it had meaning it was

00:55:43.240 impressive you know i just feel like well well we know that iq is dropping um so maybe it has a

00:55:51.960 correlation with that maybe people are getting lazier well i think that iq might be dropping because 0.89

00:55:56.680 of migration it's not that you know your average european person is getting dumber necessarily

00:56:04.280 you could go down the fluoride route i guess we'll leave that for another time i guess there are some

00:56:10.280 things in modern art which i i don't mind it's not everything i don't hate it all out of uh just

00:56:15.480 completely out of hand for example once i went to i think it must have been the tate modern if i recall

00:56:19.800 and someone they'd got like a small shed or an outhouse or something made of wood and they'd blown it up

00:56:24.200 they put a small amount of dynamite or explosive in the middle blown it up then got all the painstakingly

00:56:28.440 got all the pieces back together and then and it was like an installation inside and and and um put

00:56:34.920 them back together on little sticks um from the ground sort of a moment an instant after the explosion

00:56:41.240 so you could it was like this outhouse small shed thing like uh sort of frozen in time just as it

00:56:47.400 exploded and for me that was sort of at least interesting or cool on some level i remember who did it no

00:56:53.560 no no don't remember who did it i don't remember the exact point they were trying to make yeah

00:56:57.640 i don't i'm not sure they had one they hate but i didn't i didn't hate it i didn't right so

00:57:02.360 there are occasionally something but um but it doesn't make an impact it's not like a

00:57:07.800 cultural significance no it's like yeah yeah yeah um but there was something quite new that um one of

00:57:13.880 the guys from lotus actually found uh and it was a painting of a naked woman sparks police gallery visit

00:57:21.240 so the police actually turned up i'm not can we show the image is that probably best not to

00:57:26.920 but probably best not to um i won't go down does it have any is it got nudity in it i mean it's poorly

00:57:33.240 drawn breasts uh should we leave that they're pretty should we just describe can i describe it but not 0.99

00:57:42.200 too graphically um it's based it's no okay pressure's on now um it's a drawing that's that's about the

00:57:51.480 height of i don't know like a four foot eleven someone who's four foot eleven or something like

00:57:57.720 a child or something that can see it it's that height we're just going to check to see if we can

00:58:03.480 show the sensors the ultimate arbiter yeah um okay all right you can have a little look you can see

00:58:12.200 that um so to describe it it's some it's a woman with her legs open um but the eye view is is is very 0.99

00:58:21.320 low down i think and it's it's poorly drawn but it had the police called to it and the artist the

00:58:31.000 sharia police probably um she chose the painting for the window partly because of its proportions

00:58:37.960 soon after it went on display on monday she said she was called back to the gallery after reports

00:58:42.600 of abuse from some members of the public on thursday she said police told her to remove it

00:58:47.720 from the window and place it further inside the gallery i think that that's probably fair enough yeah

00:58:53.400 i mean it i i don't mind this sort of thing being in a gallery or you know it's time and place isn't

00:58:59.240 it i you know you can't be too prudish but at the same time if it's on like a high street and you've

00:59:04.120 got uh you've got like a gallery shop yeah and you're walking by i don't think it's necessary no

00:59:10.280 it's not necessary yeah um but i saw that she she'd written a note in front of the graphic bit let's just

00:59:19.960 say um versus some people may be offended by the painting this is not corn um in the window um we

00:59:29.560 hear what you say and we would like to open up a dialogue about this issue oh i hate i hate people

00:59:34.680 that are like that we need to open up and who talks like that what are you a dialogue just because i

00:59:40.360 painted some really poor image of someone showing their this is someone garden absolutely desperate for

00:59:48.280 any sort of attention isn't it i mean yeah yeah painfully obvious cry for attention of any stripe

00:59:54.360 and by the way we should not say her name or where it is just yeah just for that yeah um but of course

01:00:01.880 i don't think we can show the swear word of course but it i watched re-watched the clip that i posted

01:00:08.600 two years ago i think this was where um michael craig martin who was showing um roger scruton

01:00:14.760 sir roger scruton who's sadly no longer with us um said the artist's function is to make someone see

01:00:20.520 something as beautiful something that nobody thought was beautiful up until now and sir roger

01:00:27.160 scruton said wittingly back right like a can of s in reference to the uh can of excrement that was used

01:00:37.560 as anti-art i believe in the 60s it's around that sort of around that sort of decade it's a french

01:00:44.840 artist i think yes um oh yeah of course i'll double check um that actually but if anyone hasn't seen it

01:00:53.800 the documentary is called why beauty matters and it was released italian sorry italian yeah interesting

01:01:01.320 um why beauty matters by roger scruton it came out in 2009 and it's a good insight into how modern art

01:01:12.920 sucks really is to be plainly honest i i i don't mind art i like renaissance because of its history i

01:01:21.720 like how it looks i like it's impressive to look at i like art that screams how did they do that it's like 0.68

01:01:28.680 when i watch blade runner for the first time and with all this like the buildings and everything

01:01:33.240 the sets how do they do that even the newest blade runner with the ai model and it was great you know

01:01:40.680 it was great and i was like how did they do that i like that it's the mystery behind it how did someone

01:01:47.080 do that like the sculptures where they you know you talk about nude sculptures and how they managed to

01:01:52.120 make the thin sort of dress over over nude and and things like that so you can see through it it's like

01:01:57.720 see-through but it's all carved in stone it's so impressive and i sit there and i go well how do

01:02:03.000 they do that but with contemporary art with modern art i just think it all sucks that that thing's not

01:02:10.440 quite michelangelo's pieta no i didn't know i did if everyone wants to google michelangelo's pieta

01:02:18.920 um yeah just a wonder in marble yeah um that actually took obviously so much skill and time

01:02:27.800 and energy um but yeah so uh yeah i like things like uh caravaggio or titian or something um yeah

01:02:37.400 something exactly as you said was like how is that even possible i love that in 2d on a bit of canvas

01:02:42.680 how did you even yeah you know yes this is what i was talking about as well yes that versus the the

01:02:49.320 square tin we saw a moment ago yes that's incredible look at her hand under his under his armpit

01:02:57.320 incredible look at the expression on her face for a moment just just like she's taking the expression 0.75

01:03:03.080 on her face yeah quite quite remarkable um yeah so it's a shame really but um that's my pitch on why

01:03:13.320 modern art sucks okay i wholeheartedly agree so we're not doing too well on time can we

01:03:21.720 overrun a little bit that's fine the segment doesn't have to be all that long 0.98

01:03:24.920 okay still i can do i can do my segment in 15 or 20 minutes okay i don't want to miss out on

01:03:33.400 comments because we did the same thing yesterday your comments first oh yes we've got um some

01:03:38.840 chats in so speaking of art and graffiti i hope my video comment from yesterday made it very relevant

01:03:43.960 quality discussion thank you we'll come back and re-watch as stuck in a meeting all day well best of

01:03:48.200 luck with that and um i'm sure your comment will be played and uh modern art 21st century is all about

01:03:53.320 making political statements i prefer the absurdist to the outright um political and uh

01:04:01.560 you cannot convince me the leftists aren't follow followers of the chaos gods all they do is corrupt

01:04:05.800 and defile we must return to our roots where we venerate the virtuous beautiful and the good i

01:04:10.760 very much agree and that fourth print thing is like something slanash would dream up it is yeah and

01:04:17.560 then they correct themselves and they said i meant to say chaos gods but i knew what you meant already

01:04:21.560 don't worry i played uh the warhammer total war um that's how i know about them um also i went on

01:04:27.080 and up to an arts program in uni and at no point was i taught to create true art or improve all we

01:04:32.280 were taught was how to express ourselves and other such nonsense but also some emotions are more worthy

01:04:38.600 of communication to other people than others agree if i'm frustrated because i keep on bumping into

01:04:44.360 stuff and i'm being clumsy and stupid i don't necessarily want to share that with the world because 0.66

01:04:48.840 people have enough experience of that already you want to share beautiful things you want to 0.68

01:04:53.800 share emotions and evoke emotions in people that you want the world to have more of let's just have

01:04:58.760 more bob rosses how about that let's just have more of that yeah that'll be fine well we have lots

01:05:04.200 of landscapes lots of happy little trees yeah sort of thing the world was populated only with bob

01:05:08.920 rosses we'd all be fine yeah we'd all be great we'd be going to the stars by now if bob ross was just

01:05:14.360 the only human possible we'd be living in a utopia okay so i'm going to do a segment all about uh the

01:05:22.920 illegal invasion happening across english channel but first i'm under strict orders to show our

01:05:28.360 magazine islander uh no i'm happy to do it it's a good magazine it genuinely is i'm chuffed that

01:05:36.280 i'm even loosely associated with it no it's great yeah and we've got a lot of big names in this one

01:05:41.160 right uh karl aa morgoth uh wren stephan molyneux not bad you're in it right don't tell them that oh

01:05:52.040 no one will buy it secret it's not it's not a massive secret it's well good even on and you

01:05:56.440 can buy it now at lotocetus.com forward slash islander to do it buy it do it you're doing it

01:06:04.600 go on you want to buy it yes do it elegantly done love it okay calm down a bit yeah i know um

01:06:15.320 back to illegal immigration yeah so um we are being the british are being invaded that is the 0.91

01:06:21.400 correct word correct descriptor for it is an invasion um by people who don't share our values

01:06:27.880 and haven't got the best in mind for us or our culture or our society um that's happening and matt

01:06:35.560 goodwin actually uh made a video or a film about it and i thought um if we could play the first

01:06:45.400 minute or two of it um and see what is what matt's got to say

01:06:49.640 samson oh samson i can do it don't worry there you go i am samson now i'm going to tell you

01:07:01.000 something that nobody in westminster and the corridors of power are going to tell you

01:07:05.560 britain is being invaded since 2018 more than 135 000 people have entered britain illegally enough to fill

01:07:14.760 a city the size of exeter and they're joining more than 1.2 million people who have entered the

01:07:20.920 country illegally enough to fill a city the size of birmingham now if you look at home office data

01:07:28.360 70 percent of all people coming over on the small boats crossing the channel are young men and they're

01:07:34.840 coming mainly from muslim countries afghanistan iraq iran turkey eritreya this invasion is undermining

01:07:44.600 our laws this invasion is undermining our community it's costing us billions of pounds and most

01:07:51.640 importantly it's putting the british people and our children at risk some of the people coming over

01:07:58.920 are genuine refugees but many are not a not insignificant number are going on to murder 1.00

01:08:05.000 rape sexually assault and abuse british people i think it's high time somebody called this out because

01:08:13.720 that's what the british people deserve honesty and respect now throughout history britain has always 0.94

01:08:21.960 fought off invasions we're one of only a few countries that has not been successfully invaded

01:08:27.400 for about a thousand years so why is it that we can't stop this one well the answer is many of the

01:08:34.760 people in the expert class the politicians the journalists the academics the civil servants

01:08:39.880 they don't want to stop this invasion they're fully invested in the status quo i don't think that's

01:08:46.440 good enough my name's matt goodwin i'm an academic i'm a writer i'm part of a community of more than

01:08:52.600 50 000 people at matt goodwin's substack who are fed up and frustrated with this status quo we want

01:08:59.320 okay so as i think that was a it's a it's a good video go on twitter or matt goodwin stuff and find

01:09:05.800 it and watch it this is a good video um and yeah it's about high time that we're doing 100 what do

01:09:11.480 you say 135 000 in the last little while and all in all maybe you know up and around a million or more

01:09:17.400 it only went up this morning yeah um no no 135 000 people across all right i was looking at the views

01:09:23.560 that's exactly similar they've all viewed the video apparently yeah every single one um so those

01:09:29.880 numbers are astronomical yeah um you know like the the romans invaded us far less than that yeah

01:09:39.240 normans invaded us with a tiny fraction of that number okay even yeah something in that order

01:09:47.000 perhaps we don't know exactly um but even uh herman goering's luftwaffe didn't have anywhere near

01:09:53.320 those numbers when they had a genuine attempt to gain air superiority over us it's it's sort of

01:10:00.120 silly is absolutely silly numbers and it is an invasion it absolutely is so uh we just thought

01:10:07.000 we could talk a bit about what's happening what's going on what can be done uh but i just do want to 0.96

01:10:13.080 stress before people out there in the comments say oh illegal invasion is only the tip of the iceberg

01:10:18.680 and it's the legal invasion the legal immigration which is the real problem i know i agree absolutely

01:10:24.440 but for this segment we're just going to focus on uh the channel and the legal boat people i know that

01:10:31.400 legal immigration is a bigger problem yeah we talked about it yesterday as well so we don't want to 1.00

01:10:36.200 and here at loadseaters we've called that out many many many times oh yeah i personally have called that

01:10:40.200 out many many times so i'm aware but just for this segment we're just going to talk about the channel

01:10:44.040 and also for the people who say what are you going to do about it well i've given you a good policy

01:10:47.960 roadmap yesterday i've fought long and hard about it giving you five stages of how to carry it all out

01:10:53.800 how to deal with both um uh you know illegal to some extent and mostly the legal migration and what

01:11:00.600 policies we can do to sort that out in pretty good detail you know i'm gonna refine it down and then

01:11:06.920 eventually publish that as something that we can push for and rally around and say we want this and

01:11:12.680 anything less is you know treason basically you're betraying the british people if you do anything

01:11:18.040 less than this i wrote a thing a couple years ago got in trouble for with hope not hate and got

01:11:22.440 deselected from reform for talking about a roadmap of how to deal with this that was very very broad

01:11:26.440 strokes of the brush that was grand sort of strategy sort of policy things uh steve laws has written

01:11:33.480 some sort of roadmap thing seven point plan seven point plan you've written a point plan matt goodwin

01:11:38.520 talks at the end um which i'll go into about a few things that can be done practical steps to how

01:11:43.720 to go forward um so there are things we don't have to be completely lost and just throw our hands up

01:11:48.600 and say oh it's a fait accompli nothing can be done um you just have to accept it ongoing forever no not

01:11:55.000 necessarily there are things that could be done and to even roll back this crime that has been and is

01:12:02.440 being committed against us so first of all then just talk about the channel one of the first things is

01:12:07.080 that we can scroll down for me on this so i've got my my notes in front of me uh but um no most of

01:12:13.240 me anyway but first thing then is just the the incentive for people to come here in the first

01:12:18.360 place really and we we're a massive soft touch of course they come over and we give them asylum 1.00

01:12:24.760 we put them in a hotel we give them a mobile phone they get free dentistry nhs we even give them

01:12:29.880 legal support so some even business grants as well right and above the native population as well as in

01:12:35.800 they get priority over us so we're funding our own invasion and demographic change yeah against our 0.98

01:12:42.440 own will yeah only a small time i hate people that say you voted for this this is what you get no but

01:12:46.520 we didn't know no no we were never asked uh it's a tiny elite at the top which never gave us a choice

01:12:52.360 about it so no it isn't what we voted for it isn't what we get it isn't what we deserve no

01:12:57.960 in fact i think a lot of the polling suggested that immigration was the main issue of the most recent

01:13:03.320 election and no party no party even really addressed it and you saw recently with farage

01:13:10.520 and his comments about deportations extremely disappointed impossible the man said it's like

01:13:17.560 it was impossible he had no aspirations to deport said it was politically impossible which i think

01:13:22.360 was a sort of interesting way of putting it because that can be one of two things so either

01:13:27.400 um he doesn't want to do it and is trying not to alienate his own voter base or two he's um as he

01:13:37.480 went on to say and i think the angle he was trying to emphasize was that if he did agree to it he'll

01:13:43.560 never hear the end of it which i think is silly and i think that you should be able to put your name to

01:13:48.680 these policies because the time is now yeah don't be a leader of a political party then if you're

01:13:52.920 worried about that nige yeah yeah i just steve edgington friend of the podcast teed him up perfectly 0.99

01:14:00.360 perfect he could have done some milquetoast version of maybe in the future you know we can look at it

01:14:04.680 and think about he just said no he just said no it's politically impossible if for you meanwhile meanwhile

01:14:11.800 we're endlessly invaded and raped and murdered well there's gaslit while it happened there's only a set

01:14:16.280 amount of time before the the people who have come to this country outnumber the native population 1.00

01:14:24.520 yeah and then 50 2060 somewhere and then how are we going to solve it then we'll be a hated minority

01:14:31.080 in our own crunch exactly yeah anyway back yeah be extremely difficult so um so yeah we're a soft touch

01:14:38.280 obviously uh i saw someone in committee just the other day some tory mp i think standing up saying

01:14:44.360 we have to smash the gangs and lee anderson standing up and saying oh it's a bit more than

01:14:48.600 that yeah you can play whack-a-mole as much as you want there'll be another gang yeah uh why don't we

01:14:52.680 make it so that there's not as many incentives to come here and the guy goes oh i don't want to

01:14:57.000 make our country less appealing well what will happen forever then what happened forever then well

01:15:02.520 they know that yeah they know that it's a game of whack-a-mole they know it but they'll say it anyway

01:15:09.400 because it's it's kind of like well i've addressed the subject let's move on and that's kind of how

01:15:13.880 people are seeing it now that you get you have politicians that stand up and say i i've you know

01:15:19.880 we've had enough now we need to sort out illegal immigration just focusing on that for this segment

01:15:25.320 obviously we know about legal um it's all words now it's all words now we talk about conferences we

01:15:32.920 talk about people getting together to talk about things i'm sorry but the talking is done like we

01:15:40.520 need to see policy action please and like you said about immigration being the number one topic

01:15:47.160 during the election and we thought that there was only one party that would actually sort something

01:15:53.000 out or at least attempt but now it feels like betrayal it's back to square one it's back to square

01:15:59.640 well i think one of the reasons for this that this is such a sort of um monolith of the western world

01:16:06.840 is that um these global elites these globalists want to flood countries with cheap foreign labor one

01:16:14.200 because it it makes that you know it's cheap it makes sense from them for them to do so from a

01:16:21.720 financial perspective because it pushes down our salary increases demand for their whatever they're

01:16:26.840 manufacturing their products right so it maximizes the profit for them as well as sort of scuppering

01:16:33.800 any competition because the competition is likely going to come from you know the the european

01:16:39.320 population or the north american you know the native north american population not as in native american

01:16:44.520 indians but you know what i mean right um it's going to come from there because they're generally 0.97

01:16:49.320 speaking the most educated they're the most likely to create a business that will succeed and create

01:16:54.440 competition so on the one hand they have incentives to maximize the amount of money they're making

01:17:00.280 whilst also crushing competition and that is why all of these large companies are donating large sums

01:17:06.120 of money to political parties is to keep this running because on the one hand they're crushing

01:17:11.720 competition on the other they're maximizing their profits and so unless we do something about that

01:17:18.520 there's going to be no incentive to change because all of the money is going to be against it

01:17:23.400 there's a whole industry uh built up around here but i think that the economic and sort of corporate

01:17:29.080 angle of what you're talking about is one of the least malevolent aspects of it you've got something

01:17:33.160 like the runnymede trust who want to actively change the ethnicity of britain for its own sake

01:17:40.200 right is true that's charities it's not just about the filthy lucre that's about that's about wiping out

01:17:47.320 the native people that's what that is the problem is that we have as well we have two new classes that

01:17:53.320 have come around in the last few decades you have the activist class and the expert class expert in

01:17:58.840 the quote-unquote so that you have the activist class that have poisoned institutions the home office

01:18:05.240 where it's it's so politicized and so bent one way um that it's just obvious we can all see it we can all

01:18:13.800 see that the majority of the home office are pro open borders um because whether it be politics whether

01:18:22.520 it would be just being afraid to be viewed as a nasty or horrible person for wanting to have control over

01:18:32.280 immigration and then you have the expert class you know like your fact checkers and the people that go

01:18:37.800 out and say well this is this is going to be best for britain if you do it like this and it's like well

01:18:42.520 sorry where's your credentials and then you find out it's either esg dei or something like that and

01:18:48.600 it's not a meritocracy anymore well many of these experts that get wheeled out and not necessarily

01:18:54.360 even in their own field people who are respected they're sort of quizlings for um political machinations

01:19:00.520 that are above their own heads it reminds me of who is that communist literal communist uh who now works

01:19:07.800 for the who but was handling um the uh during the vid era um a couple of years ago she's mitchy could be

01:19:19.480 her yeah she part of the sage uh scientific yes who is an actual member of the communist party yeah and

01:19:25.960 said she wanted lockdowns to carry on forever that's it so that's that to me yes it is her yes that is the

01:19:35.560 the is the pure definition what i i would call the expert class quote unquote and these these two

01:19:43.080 classes now within institutions and within government um are the reason why or partly the reason why we're

01:19:50.920 in this mess today massively and you know we all like to sit around and say well if i was in charge i

01:19:58.600 would do x y and z um but for hypothetical sake you have to drain that swamp now just to paraphrase

01:20:07.080 some other guy you have to go into the to the home office you just fire clear them out fire and clear

01:20:14.360 them out completely create a new department to control the borders if anything yeah these are clear

01:20:19.400 out turkey's voting for christmas these are suicidal it's a suicidal policy to have open borders if you

01:20:25.160 have open borders you have no country yeah the nation does not exist if you have open borders

01:20:29.400 essentially you know the idea of open borders is just that's just what a traitor would do that's

01:20:34.600 just what a fifth columnist traitor opening the gates is is a sort of euphemism yeah for a traitor

01:20:40.920 isn't it oh by the way just quickly and i want to say any christian that believes in open borders is

01:20:46.360 is unbiblical i just want to say that because you can even go back to the tower of babylon to even show

01:20:51.800 that nations nation states language culture everything derive so seeing christians as well

01:21:03.160 that are openly open borders as well just really does my head in because they they can't seem to

01:21:08.840 understand that so i just want to throw yeah no fair enough see the picture of the i guess it was an

01:21:13.720 anglican female vicar holding up a thing saying we're all muslims yeah yeah the turkeys voting for 1.00

01:21:18.680 christmas absolutely insane effectively suicidal um i say just to run through this thing because 0.96

01:21:24.760 we are running low on time in this segment uh so yeah france is a big part of the problem they're

01:21:28.760 not going to help us we can keep throwing millions and millions at them they're not going to secure

01:21:33.240 those beaches there's a handful of beaches in calais and down the normandy coast around there even like

01:21:39.160 britney or something or even the belgium coast so hey it's not a massive massive coastline where they

01:21:44.840 could secure it to physically stop small boats from ever leaving they're not going to do it

01:21:49.240 they've got no intention of doing it we are politically essentially still not necessarily

01:21:56.040 enemies but rivals of france they want to get rid of their trouble people and if they can force them

01:22:01.880 on us then all the better so they're not going to do anything we don't we can't rely on france to ever

01:22:06.440 really tackle the problem um right yeah they're not going to do it we could keep throwing money at

01:22:11.720 them but they're not going to do it um so the now it is difficult to it is actually the the real real

01:22:17.560 physical logistics of doing something in the channel is a little bit difficult because it's

01:22:22.440 a really really busy shipping lane it's not really international waters where anyone can do anything

01:22:28.280 like off the north of australia matt goodwin makes this point off the north of australia where

01:22:32.120 they have lots of problems used to have lots of problems with people from indonesia or whatever

01:22:35.960 coming down to australia you could be in international waters and you can tow them off to some

01:22:40.440 island somewhere out of view of journalists and all sorts of things we can't do any of that

01:22:46.200 um and we're we're not just gonna let people drown right so we're just not that's not really gonna

01:22:53.160 that's not on the cards it's not even actually desirable is it really it'd be best if we just

01:22:57.560 tow them back to the french beach they came from dump them there um so the channel the actual the physical

01:23:04.040 bit of water there the english channel is sort of relatively difficult but it's not that difficult

01:23:10.680 all we'd need is one royal navy what a cruiser or something that's got a load of royal marines

01:23:18.280 or the special boat service dudes that go out and physically take control of any dinghy or small boat

01:23:25.720 and physically take it back to french beach if we wanted to do that we could do it if the french navy

01:23:31.880 want to get involved then we'll talk then we'll start talking some serious turkey with the french 1.00

01:23:37.800 but we our political leaders have got no intention of doing that someone like rishi sunak or boris or um

01:23:43.800 teresa may had nowhere near the balls to think about doing that and of course starmer would would never 1.00

01:23:49.560 dream of doing such a thing new voters for them lock you up for even talking about uh right yeah so what

01:23:54.840 we need to do is uh there's there's the echr the european convention on human rights need to scrap that get

01:24:01.320 rid of that that was good and made sense perhaps in the 1950s but now it's obviously been completely

01:24:06.600 perverted to facilitate our invasion there's a human rights act which blair brought in again exactly the

01:24:11.720 same thing perverted and used by uh legal people to facilitate our invasion that would need to be

01:24:18.200 scrapped matt goodwin ends by saying these things uh by the way because it's costing us again to just

01:24:24.120 go down the economic route which i do think is one of the least important arguments but still

01:24:27.880 we're spending something like eight million a day on these people on funding our own invasion 0.67

01:24:33.160 which is something like seven billion a year at the moment which could pay for something in the order

01:24:37.240 of 200 000 policemen a year so those numbers are just absolutely seven billion a year yes like

01:24:44.040 the james webb space telescopes cost 10 billion right the channel tunnel cost 15 billion

01:24:50.600 we can put it in that perspective right makes you wince doesn't it yeah um and so yeah there's

01:24:57.800 there's all the charities quote unquote and lobbyists and all the the various types of legal

01:25:05.320 organizations which are um all facilitating this so it all needs to be addressed just revoke their

01:25:12.600 charitable status right and overturned yeah easily done one other big thing to mention is of course the

01:25:18.040 the supreme court tony blair's supreme court which is trying to rival or does in some ways rival

01:25:25.320 parliament that's a complete absurdity that's a complete travesty it's a constitutional abomination

01:25:30.040 it's an abomination uh dr starkey is very good and clear on all of that that would need to go again 0.97

01:25:35.960 you need a government with balls way more balls than nigel's got way more just do away with that supreme 1.00

01:25:41.400 court anyone that argues against it say no we did very well without one before the before blair came 0.97

01:25:46.440 along we'll do very well with that one don't need it sweep it aside get rid of it um it's just there

01:25:52.840 to foil parliament and getting done what needs to be done to save us um so okay i mean maybe if we

01:26:02.200 could play can you play from can you do josh from 14 minutes 30 inch or right about john samson

01:26:08.200 if you take us to victory and a half minutes fairly near the end i must say i'm just very impressed

01:26:14.600 and a half with matt it's a strong it's a strong video if you just play it from about there listen

01:26:19.880 to what matt says

01:26:24.440 matt is loading up blimey well he's only actually really gonna only really gonna rehash what i've

01:26:31.400 said really about the echr and stuff so we don't necessarily need it uh but there you go anyone that

01:26:37.080 tries to yeah don't worry about it anyone that um is trying to argue that we're not being invaded

01:26:41.880 that it's not happening that's pure gaslighting that's nonsense don't accept it anyone that quibbles

01:26:47.080 with your use of the term invasion again push back against that it absolutely is an invasion

01:26:54.600 um and something needs to give we cannot go on forever it just cannot go on forever um and if we

01:27:02.520 need to now look beyond reform if their senior leadership think it's impossible politically

01:27:08.520 to ever get rid of these enemies in our midst then um then there's going to have to be a newer

01:27:15.160 movement then a new new parties or a whole new wave of independence if if the commission won't let us

01:27:23.000 form a party um so anyway that's it here here here so got a few uh comments quickly through um bad

01:27:32.920 art is nothing new back in the early 80s a picture called sex was uh at mount allison university in

01:27:39.880 sackville uh nb titled sex a picture of stained underwear with s come blood got raves i can't

01:27:49.160 believe i read that um but thanks for telling us about it i suppose um sorry i don't know your um 0.85

01:27:55.240 names yet but the bold guy on the right seems like he was in lock stock and too smacking

01:28:02.040 who would that be jason statham is it hey that's not bad yeah i'll take jason statham yeah take that

01:28:08.120 i'll take it over nosferati someone say that yeah i've had all sorts richard o'brien it's quite

01:28:14.040 quite rude so any bald guy fictional or real nosferato is mean that is someone said i look

01:28:21.080 like zaya yusuf and i've not oh that's mean that is mean thank you sometimes it's not even a

01:28:25.720 bald guy i'm liking to it's a normal person but with their head shaved like like once i had michael

01:28:29.880 owen on chemo like yeah but no jason statham that's quite kind i'll take that yeah best one you've had

01:28:41.400 so firing them is not enough in my opinion uh they should be stripped of all their money and

01:28:46.520 assets as payment for their trees and i agree in uh seizing assets for treachery yes uh parasitism

01:28:52.520 and treason deserve no mercy no absolution justice must be served here here um you're talking about

01:28:58.600 multi-millionaire communist susan mitchy whose father donald was a leading light at bletchley park

01:29:03.160 when it mattered there we go oh well thank you very much for the uh info as well

01:29:07.160 video comments go a great explanation of the political left and right came from steliosi's

01:29:17.720 interview with dr jeffrey bale the concept comes from pre-french revolution but the real surprise

01:29:27.080 was finding out that also on the right are muslims whose traditions often conflict with their own

01:29:37.160 the truth is very true yeah 0.99

01:29:45.880 we can do all of this and more but patriotic new yorkers must get your asses out to vote 1.00

01:29:53.000 how to get up get together harry get up harry harry get your fat ass out of the couch 0.99

01:30:01.320 you're gonna vote for trump today harry get up harry come on let's go 0.99

01:30:08.360 let's go harry was hit in today yeah that'd be perfect

01:30:15.080 if you're talking about a specific person i think so yeah i think so i have no idea

01:30:19.480 i like harry robinson money though let's see his presenter

01:30:22.120 i've noticed a recent trend any graffiti that even remotely resembles the will of the people

01:30:31.480 gets priority removal see this here this said protect our kids a quote-unquote far

01:30:39.000 right slogan apparently the gangsta blow it totally fine this picture is from a friend but i do have

01:30:46.200 more examples saved somewhere i want to put it out there to our audience has anyone else seen

01:30:51.160 something similar please do share find me on twitter i want to get a compilation going i've

01:30:56.360 actually noticed this as well where you see right wing sloganism and stickers ironically enough um

01:31:02.360 around various uk cities and they get removed very quickly whereas the palestine ones are left to fade 1.00

01:31:08.120 and rot and all of the other left-wing ones like i think that i still see ones about brexit sometimes

01:31:13.800 just like you've gone out of your way to complain about brexit it's just a bit pathetic if they do

01:31:18.120 a saint george's flag the council come around and wash that off but a rainbow flag will stay there full

01:31:23.000 time yeah absolutely written in 2003 i'd be surprised if this book isn't the foundation for clarkson's

01:31:29.800 farm colin touch dives deep into farming practices and identifies the root causes that are leading to

01:31:34.920 mismanagement of the land and a paucity of variety in our diet unfortunately despite his claims to be a

01:31:40.520 good capitalist touch quotes from influential socialists jarring with his accurate analysis

01:31:45.160 of the corporatization of agriculture taking it away from its husbandry roots instead to encourage

01:31:50.440 monocultures and abuse of the land leftists can always point to the problem but utterly fail to

01:31:55.240 identify the solution well i've noticed that there's a hardcover version for three pound fifty

01:32:01.800 i'm going to add it to my amazon basket yes i'm using amazon kill me um

01:32:09.960 so a lot of people were confused when ben stiller said that he wished he had been black

01:32:15.240 but um this is actually a very common sentiment among hebrew leftists i mean just look at any of

01:32:21.080 the meetings of the weatherman underground or more interestingly the author of uh fritz de katt

01:32:27.080 which is basically his childhood memories of the 1950s race riot the author fritz de katt even tells

01:32:33.800 one of the crows which is just an anthropomorphized black person that um he wished he'd been born black 0.92

01:32:39.880 and gets chewed out for such a sentence i think it's really pathetic that people do that i've heard it a 0.93

01:32:48.120 few times before i've also come across people i've heard i've heard people in real life who have a 0.82

01:32:53.480 comfortable middle class existence say that they wish they were black and it's like i'm sorry but

01:32:59.480 you know you can't do that your your parents have very professional jobs you know you you're far too 0.96

01:33:06.200 white middle class and suburban to to do that sort of thing don't be ridiculous it's just someone wants

01:33:11.160 to be interesting don't they they see it as interesting it's a strange thing to say it is yeah 0.70

01:33:23.480 that's a nice palette cleanser wasn't it you're like a one-man uh pr wing for california

01:33:51.480 pr wing for california you're sort of redeeming it with all the lovely nature you're showing us

01:33:58.360 i think another problem with the overdiagnosis epidemic is the widening of spectrums to fit

01:34:02.040 more people under a specific label asperger's used to be separate from autism in the dsm and

01:34:06.440 although they do share a lot of similarities there are some differences like with spoken

01:34:09.400 language and intelligence levels my main struggles are detecting sarcasm and figurative language

01:34:13.160 proprioception and parallelia but i don't really struggle as much with eye contact or expressing

01:34:17.560 empathy like other artists do also josh saying that the education system medicalizes men as faulty

01:34:21.480 women is crazy to think about when you realize that autistic people are much more likely to be

01:34:25.000 diagnosed with gender dysphoria and subsequently become ensnared in the transgender healthcare

01:34:28.360 system absolutely and that's something uh so impressive i know yeah i would be there for months

01:34:36.200 just trying to figure that out yeah the um the expansion of the definitions i think is deliberate to

01:34:41.080 try and medicalize a larger number of the population but what it does is people who are actually

01:34:45.240 suffering with more tangible problems then uh thrown in with people with lesser problems and

01:34:52.520 they don't get addressed there's a sort of proportionality to these things that gets missed in in sort of

01:34:58.520 weeds of it the u.s army chemical corps spirit animal is the dragon we put it on everything

01:35:06.360 this year's annual training mission was operation red dragon my role in that mission was opposing forces

01:35:14.440 commander and i was permitted to select my own heraldry and call sign naturally there was only one

01:35:23.000 logical choice

01:35:28.040 oh wicked

01:35:31.240 that's cool that's great yeah as i say the original one looks very welsh sort of celtic welsh but yeah

01:35:38.840 good old saint george i have to fire through a few written comments because we have lads out

01:35:44.200 two minutes samson says okay i'll just read them very quickly so uh arizona desert rat says building

01:35:49.560 underground is cooler and more energy efficient but a dome is a better shape than a long straight line

01:35:54.280 that is almost certainly true a supreme duck says if it was for environmentalism uh wouldn't it make

01:36:00.200 more sense for it all to be underground exactly the same thing see we've got lots of smart people in

01:36:03.960 the lotus eaters audience and for the modern art sucks thing uh canis familiaris says in norway all

01:36:10.840 the modern artists get government grants while there is an alternative figurative scene

01:36:14.760 led by odd nerder um rum uh you can guess which of these two groups get an actual audience that

01:36:21.720 doesn't consist of captive school children on a field trip lancer enjoyer says i um i recently was

01:36:28.840 in uh alfa romeo museum yeah uh in milan and the older car design is definitely um art mostly italian

01:36:37.560 i thought it was alfa romeo and i was just like a museum for alfa romeos but fair enough they are nice

01:36:42.520 cars uh someone online says modern art exists almost exclusively for money laundering yes i mean

01:36:47.720 look at how much hunter biden made from his art uh jane saxby says bow for pm and uh there you go

01:36:54.040 and saint benny pax says so france is england's mexico yes in lots of different ways but anyway

01:37:01.960 we'll be back in about 24 minutes time with lads hour it's going to be a good fun one um we're going

01:37:07.480 to have a few more people on it obviously and uh we're going to be trying to guess where we are in the

01:37:11.160 world having a few beers and having a good time so tune in 25 minutes time for that thank you for

01:37:17.880 watching and goodbye

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - September 20, 2024

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1005

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