The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for the 26th of September 2024. I am

00:00:15.560 joined by Carl and Stelios. Hello. And today we're going to be talking about the moron occupied

00:00:21.360 government that is of course the absolute geniuses in the Labour Party. We're going to be talking 0.99

00:00:27.300 about Millet and Bekele at the UN and I'm going to be talking about English identity and the recent

00:00:36.700 debate I suppose about whether the English exists or not. Are you real? I don't think so. I'm not

00:00:45.800 actually real. But I've also got some announcements. Islander magazine is out now. It's very good. It's

00:00:52.740 got both me and Carl in it and lots of interesting people. I know I'm probably preaching to the choir

00:00:57.100 here. All of you have probably already bought it but you can buy it again. You know you've got

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00:01:06.020 Carl, Nima Parvini, Morgoth's Review, Dr. Charles Cornishdale, Roig Nationalist, Stefan Molyneux,

00:01:13.240 lots of other people as well and some surprises in there. So check it out. It's very good. I like it.

00:01:19.340 Luca's article on the Marshals of Middle-Earth is great. He did one in the first one for Boromir

00:01:24.140 and he's done another one for Faramir. It's really good. I really enjoyed those ones.

00:01:27.420 Yep. Anything about Lord of the Rings is normally good, isn't it? If it's written by a right

00:01:31.560 winger anyway. But also, another announcement. If you are submitting video comments, please

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00:02:01.280 do that. But that's it. So take it away, Carl.

00:02:06.020 So we are currently struggling under what I've decided to term a mog, a moron-occupied government, 1.00

00:02:13.980 which means we are on the regular being mogged by the Labour Party because they're morons. 0.99

00:02:18.540 They are literally, I said this very originally, but I genuinely think that the Labour Party 1.00

00:02:24.920 has an average IQ, the Labour frontbench, of about 90.

00:02:29.740 I'm being generous, to be fair.

00:02:31.300 I'm not being generous.

00:02:32.140 No, I'm not being generous. I'm being very serious about this. I don't think they're

00:02:36.800 intelligent people. And what I would love is for them to have to do a public IQ test,

00:02:40.940 just all sit down, do the IQ test and just have them on a scoreboard come up with rankings.

00:02:45.180 Well, in the similar way that people wanted Biden to do the cognitive test, we want to

00:02:48.980 know how intelligent the Labour Party is.

00:02:50.320 I want Labour Party members doing IQ tests.

00:02:53.440 If they're not members of Mensa, I'm not interested.

00:02:55.560 They don't even have to be members of Mensa. I just want to be average.

00:02:58.760 Well, you've seen David Lammy on Mastermind, haven't you? That is amazing.

00:03:02.140 I have, absolutely. And so I guess the inspiration for this segment came from Keir Starmer, because

00:03:09.180 he was giving his speech at the Labour Party conference, and there was a hilarious gaffe.

00:03:13.320 A massive captured a bunch of Israeli sausages. Keir Starmer is very upset by this and wants

00:03:29.220 the return of the sausages. Now, obviously, this is just a gaffe. Everyone is prone to

00:03:36.080 make mistakes. Everyone, I mean, maybe he was a bit hungry when he was going up there.

00:03:40.000 He's like, I'll eat afterwards. I haven't got time. And it was just on his mind. Or

00:03:43.720 maybe it was written on the teleprompter, and he didn't. Maybe it was a mistake on the

00:03:46.580 teleprompter, and he just read it with sincerity and passion, because I too would like lunch.

00:03:52.360 The thing is, he's vegetarian as well, which makes it even funnier.

00:03:57.700 So he just misread the word, I guess. But this isn't the only moronic thing he's done. 0.99

00:04:03.000 And I don't want people coming away from this thinking, well, look, he miss said a word. 0.98

00:04:08.000 So yeah, he did. But anyone could make a gaffe like that. You know, it's on the teleprompter.

00:04:12.280 He's 61. Maybe his eyes are a bit, you know, that's by far from the worst and least the most

00:04:18.980 stupid thing that he's done. So I mean, let's go on. So of course, you've got the opportunity 0.99

00:04:24.680 to make himself less hateful to the country. And so he's been interviewed by the media

00:04:30.260 a lot recently, because he's had a lot of controversies surrounding him over things

00:04:35.820 that are formal and procedural a lot of the time. And so, for example, on the case of

00:04:42.680 you are going to be killing loads of pensioners. Do you want to at least apologise? And he was 0.99

00:04:48.280 just like, no. I mean, in fact, he turns himself into the victim of it. It's quite great.

00:04:52.700 Would you like to take this opportunity to say sorry to pensioners like Chrissie? 0.52

00:04:58.380 Well, I am really concerned that we've been put in this position. 1.00

00:05:08.620 Yeah, that's really stupid. 0.92

00:05:11.000 Yeah, I'm really sorry that people criticise me for basically being completely unpopular. 0.91

00:05:16.120 I'm very sorry about this.

00:05:17.500 I'm really sorry that I'm being forced to kill granny. 1.00

00:05:19.820 It's like someone coming across you in a dark alleyway and saying, I'm really sorry

00:05:24.120 that you found yourself in this situation, but I've got to take your wallet and keys.

00:05:27.660 It really is.

00:05:28.800 Far-eyed granny made me do it. 0.98

00:05:31.360 Well, no, the Conservative Party made him do it. It's his argument.

00:05:34.680 He goes on to be like, well, you know, Conservatives left us with £22 billion in the hole.

00:05:40.060 Someone's granny's going to have to freeze to death. 1.00

00:05:41.800 And just to be clear as well, I mean, they are well aware that this is probably going

00:05:46.680 to kill about 4,000 pensioners.

00:05:49.340 But he's just like, well, you know, I'm not sorry about it.

00:05:52.920 It's just unfortunate that I've been put in this position.

00:05:55.220 It's like Mr. Freeze.

00:05:57.360 Everything freezes.

00:05:59.180 We need to burn lots and lots of fossil fuels to flatten the curve. 0.96

00:06:02.760 Because remember, our pensioners are our most important asset in Britain.

00:06:06.280 But the funniest thing, though, he was given such an easy out there.

00:06:09.840 It's like, yeah, I'm truly sorry this is going to be done or something like that.

00:06:12.520 But he doesn't.

00:06:13.320 He's not sorry for it. 1.00

00:06:14.340 And he's too stupid to know that he should be trying to appeal to people's sentiments, right? 1.00

00:06:18.500 He's too stupid to understand that, oh, people look at me like I'm doing the wrong thing, 1.00

00:06:23.240 which is why he's constantly being grilled. 1.00

00:06:25.540 And so then in the same interview, I can't remember what this woman's name is.

00:06:31.340 She's Good Morning Britain host.

00:06:33.400 I can't remember.

00:06:33.880 I can't remember either.

00:06:34.680 Yeah, I do know it.

00:06:35.520 Oh, Susanna Reid?

00:06:37.360 Oh, Susanna Reid.

00:06:38.040 That's right.

00:06:39.220 Yeah, so Susanna Reid, you can tell she's laying him up for this. 0.97

00:06:42.060 She's like, look, everyone hates you because you're going to kill their grandmother.

00:06:45.120 Do you want to say sorry or something to try and get yourself out of your good graces? 0.94

00:06:48.300 Basically kicking him under the table at this point.

00:06:50.100 Well, she's teeing him up.

00:06:50.960 She's giving him every opportunity.

00:06:52.640 And so in this one, she's like, well, you're giving billions to Ukraine.

00:06:56.880 Is there anything you want to say about this?

00:06:58.580 We're about to be in America, in New York.

00:07:02.140 We spend three billion on Ukraine, eight billion on foreign aid.

00:07:06.460 What do you say to those who say spend that money at home?

00:07:12.300 I understand that argument.

00:07:14.200 But I think in relation to, let's say, Ukraine, we have to understand that that war in Ukraine

00:07:20.080 is not just about Ukraine.

00:07:22.360 It's about Russian aggression.

00:07:24.400 It's about our freedom, our democracy, the way we're able to exercise our rights in this country.

00:07:30.800 It is the frontier of freedom.

00:07:33.320 And so it's really important that we stand with Ukraine.

00:07:35.580 That's why...

00:07:36.500 Sorry, Ukraine is the frontier of freedom.

00:07:41.060 I think before 2014, wasn't it the most corrupt European country?

00:07:46.100 Yes.

00:07:46.500 Zelensky was a comedian before he became the president, and now he's a billionaire.

00:07:52.240 How does a comedian become a billionaire?

00:07:56.240 I mean, he's not that funny, right?

00:07:58.260 The idea that, like, if Ukraine falls, Britain's next.

00:08:02.500 The Russians are not going to invade Britain.

00:08:04.360 I think at the very least, he's a multimillionaire.

00:08:06.660 No, no.

00:08:07.000 He had something like 800 million.

00:08:08.860 Really?

00:08:09.320 Yeah, yeah.

00:08:09.640 He's got it in offshore bank accounts.

00:08:10.920 I'm not even joking.

00:08:12.280 He is...

00:08:12.680 Look it up.

00:08:13.580 I swear to God.

00:08:13.980 Okay, okay.

00:08:14.560 Zelensky is worth an ungodly amount of money, and it's just like, how did he mask this as

00:08:18.540 a comedian?

00:08:18.800 He's just a really funny guy.

00:08:20.180 Yeah, he's just really funny.

00:08:22.620 So, again, you could have said something more deferential, but no, his premise is, well,

00:08:31.200 if Ukraine falls, Britain's next. 0.86

00:08:33.320 No, it's not.

00:08:34.020 No, it's not. 1.00

00:08:34.560 You're an idiot. 1.00

00:08:35.240 That's obviously not going to be the case. 1.00

00:08:37.060 You know, like, Putin can't even take all of Ukraine.

00:08:40.440 Like, he can take a couple of border regions that are mostly Russian, and that's as far

00:08:45.360 as he's got.

00:08:46.080 So, it's like, no, that's nonsense.

00:08:47.400 This is fake. 0.78

00:08:48.480 You're full of it.

00:08:49.540 But what you are saying is that, no, I'm literally going to take money from Granny and give it 0.90

00:08:53.540 to Zelensky.

00:08:55.000 But also, it wouldn't even be in Russia's interest to take the British Isles, because 0.58

00:08:58.780 they would become a pariah the world over.

00:09:01.980 Just like, well, no one wants to be near Russia, because they keep on taking random countries. 0.91

00:09:06.680 But also, why would you take things with such little value?

00:09:10.840 That's true.

00:09:11.480 Russia has taken over Britain. 0.88

00:09:12.520 Okay, so all of our problems are now your problems.

00:09:14.360 Okay, good luck.

00:09:15.120 I mean, liberate Britain.

00:09:16.540 Yeah.

00:09:17.200 And so, nothing about Keir Starmer's approach here has been intelligent, right?

00:09:22.320 None of it's been sophisticated.

00:09:24.480 He hasn't managed to finesse this in any way, shape, or form.

00:09:27.640 And of course, his popularity is plummeting.

00:09:29.540 Did you want to?

00:09:29.920 Yeah, I have some reservations, because, okay, I don't think he is IQ 90.

00:09:37.240 My reservation is...

00:09:38.140 Well, he's the 100 IQ.

00:09:39.400 He's the thing making it...

00:09:41.260 Yeah.

00:09:41.660 Something that I'm worried about, which is harrowing, is whether he wants to habituate

00:09:47.080 the population into not expecting him to be sentimental towards people.

00:09:52.080 Yeah.

00:09:52.240 I mean, well, the thing is, I think that implies far too much sort of forethought on his part.

00:09:59.560 I don't think he's that much of a strategic thinker.

00:10:02.080 I think he actually is just kind of heartless and doesn't care.

00:10:07.300 But he's also...

00:10:07.840 He has bad sausages, though.

00:10:09.080 Well, no, that was a mistake, remember.

00:10:11.040 He doesn't want the return of the sausage.

00:10:12.200 He doesn't even want your sausages back.

00:10:13.920 He doesn't even care.

00:10:14.940 But anyway, so moving on. 1.00

00:10:17.320 Again, mired in public scandal, because this is a moronic party. 0.96

00:10:21.400 For some reason, Keir Starmer has accepted that Sugrey, his chief of staff, needs to be 0.96

00:10:27.880 paid more than he has paid.

00:10:29.880 Now, there's something very peculiar about that.

00:10:31.860 It's like, why is the chief of staff being paid more than the prime minister himself?

00:10:35.920 Surely, as the top of the executive branch, he should be getting paid more.

00:10:39.760 But no, he's accepted that.

00:10:41.360 But not only has he accepted it, he decided to come out and say to the public,

00:10:44.240 and I quote, this is not for public debate.

00:10:48.340 It's like, oh, really?

00:10:50.940 Because we're going to debate this a lot. 1.00

00:10:52.900 And how you treat that is, again, more an indication of how stupid you are when you 1.00

00:10:59.240 are approaching these issues. 1.00

00:11:00.680 So he thinks this is fine. 0.99

00:11:02.780 And not a direct quote, but in summary, fuck them pensioners, was basically the opinion. 0.99

00:11:07.800 So she's going to get paid stacks. 1.00

00:11:09.860 The pensioners are getting their money taken away.

00:11:11.600 Secondly, Ukraine is going to get billions every year, and you don't even get to have

00:11:16.160 a say in this, says the prime minister. 1.00

00:11:17.860 This is dumb. 1.00

00:11:19.100 This is really dumb. 1.00

00:11:20.020 This is bad politics. 1.00

00:11:21.220 You're doing everything wrong.

00:11:23.040 And maybe I shouldn't be complaining.

00:11:25.560 But then, I mean...

00:11:26.300 You could have saved this, by the way, just by saying...

00:11:28.120 Easily.

00:11:28.640 You could have said, well, as the prime minister, I think it's in poor taste when people are

00:11:33.580 struggling to increase my salary above that of Sue Gray.

00:11:37.800 And so I'm willingly taking less money.

00:11:41.080 And at least he can frame it as, I'm trying to be virtuous here.

00:11:44.200 Or at least say that he's in a position to get more donations than she is.

00:11:49.220 Maybe.

00:11:49.820 Maybe.

00:11:50.420 He could have...

00:11:51.520 We'll go into the donations in a minute. 0.99

00:11:53.400 But, like, I mean, she's being moronic as well. 0.96

00:11:55.500 It's like, why are you insisting on 170 grand? 0.82

00:11:57.640 Like, if you've got 165 grand, then you'd be on less than him.

00:12:01.520 And you wouldn't notice it.

00:12:03.620 You know, you're still going to be taking home way more than 10 grand a month. 1.00

00:12:06.380 So, like, come on, you greedy morons. 1.00

00:12:09.580 But they're like, no. 1.00

00:12:10.860 And you're not allowed to talk about it.

00:12:11.920 It's like, okay.

00:12:13.700 Understood.

00:12:14.780 Evil.

00:12:15.660 Right?

00:12:16.120 But the freebies are just a perennial issue where Keir Starmer is, again, not in any way

00:12:22.580 apologetic.

00:12:23.980 I had to.

00:12:25.020 Yeah. 1.00

00:12:26.580 Idiot! 1.00

00:12:27.640 I had to take the freebies for my son, says Keir Starmer. 1.00

00:12:30.540 Because he says, quote, my boy is in the middle of his GCSEs.

00:12:33.640 I made him a promise.

00:12:34.900 A promise that he would be able to get his school, do his exams without being disturbed.

00:12:39.020 Which meant I need to take 20 grand.

00:12:42.080 We have a lot of journalists outside our house where we live.

00:12:44.440 And I'm not complaining about that.

00:12:45.400 That's fine.

00:12:45.760 But if you're 16 and you're trying to do GCSEs, I promised him we would move somewhere,

00:12:50.260 get out of the house, and go somewhere where we would be peacefully studying.

00:12:53.060 And so Lord Alley offered him the use of his $18 million penthouse.

00:12:58.880 And so it's like, okay, but you could have gone almost anywhere, right?

00:13:03.980 You know, again, it didn't have to look so obviously corrupt.

00:13:08.240 So this is one of those things where almost everyone knows someone who has taken their GCSEs, right?

00:13:15.700 Yes.

00:13:16.080 I remember when I did.

00:13:16.940 Because everyone's taken their GCSEs.

00:13:17.780 Yes.

00:13:18.100 And so we know we have personal experience as well as, you know, we know people who have gone through it.

00:13:24.140 They didn't need a multi-million pound penthouse.

00:13:26.920 I was locked away in my parents' dining room and just no one was allowed to come in.

00:13:31.540 That was enough.

00:13:32.820 Yeah.

00:13:33.020 They could watch TV in the other room.

00:13:34.580 That was fine.

00:13:35.360 You're just reading your notes.

00:13:37.300 It's really not that much.

00:13:38.360 But anyway, so speaking of Lord Alley, now one thing that Labour have always been hammering is closing of tax loopholes. 0.98

00:13:46.160 Because of course, the Labour Party, despite all of the apparent stupidity and corruption, are against that kind of thing. 1.00

00:13:54.120 Very amusingly, even Lord Alley is a moron. 1.00

00:13:57.480 Because he was like, oh yeah, no, that's right. 0.99

00:14:00.600 I have a massive stake in a firm that's based in the Virgin Islands that I don't pay tax on.

00:14:07.040 And I'm going to get £425,000 from that this year.

00:14:10.300 And I forgot to declare it. 0.99

00:14:11.740 Whoopsie, I'm just a moron. 0.99

00:14:13.620 It's like, God, what is wrong with you people? 1.00

00:14:15.860 Like, you are doing everything wrong.

00:14:18.480 Everything. 1.00

00:14:19.100 It's just genuinely moronic. 0.96

00:14:20.760 He's a director of Mac BVI Limited, which is based in the British Virgin Islands, 0.90

00:14:25.420 which was only added to his register of interest when he was contacted by Open Democracy to ask why it was missing. 0.99

00:14:31.400 He's like, yeah, whoopsie, I'm just stupid. 0.98

00:14:33.700 It's like, yes. 0.99

00:14:34.280 The only reason it's going to be based out of there anyway, isn't it?

00:14:36.960 To avoid tax.

00:14:37.860 Of course.

00:14:38.360 Of course.

00:14:39.280 So they're going to, I mean, Keir Starmer has taken more gifts and donations than any other politician since 2019.

00:14:44.880 So it's just like, I can't believe you managed to outdo Boris, frankly.

00:14:48.140 You know, well done.

00:14:49.760 Boris was too busy making mini Boris's to get distracted with gifts.

00:14:53.500 I guess he was. 0.99

00:14:54.040 But it's, again, okay, you're corrupt. 0.99

00:14:57.900 Okay, you're communists. 1.00

00:14:59.280 But do you have to be so dumb about it? 0.99

00:15:01.740 You know, do you have to make it so in our faces? 0.99

00:15:04.700 You know, and I guess I shouldn't be complaining because this is good for us.

00:15:07.920 But it's just like, I'm insulted that they're mogging us.

00:15:12.400 I think the ideology has progressed so much.

00:15:15.860 They're in the position where they just don't care.

00:15:18.300 They genuinely think that they don't have to answer to anyone, that they're not accountable.

00:15:22.480 They do think that, but I think there's something more.

00:15:24.680 Because I think the problem with ideology, and I think the Labour Party is entirely controlled by ideology, is that it's essentially programming for midwits, right?

00:15:32.120 So if you don't know anything about the subject and you're not very smart, you can just parrot the line and someone will say, okay, at least he's conformable, right?

00:15:40.220 He's in the in-club, he understands, he's going to do the doctrine, and so he can fail upwards, right?

00:15:46.300 And this is how David Lammy ended up as the Foreign Secretary, and we'll get to him in a minute, right?

00:15:50.280 So anyway, so he's, again, being interviewed by the media, and then he just gives the game away completely.

00:15:57.120 And this, I love this clip so much.

00:16:00.800 And Beth, I might just gently say, Sky invites us to quite a lot of hospitality events.

00:16:06.420 Your summer party is a great party costing thousands of pounds, and you invite me every year.

00:16:13.160 Presumably you want politicians to continue to come, and, you know, part of that is how politics, and that's why they don't have decorations.

00:16:22.200 How politics works, that, like, you're just giving the game away, yeah, look, we're all in it, it's all a big slush, we all invite each other to very expensive hospitality, why are you grilling me on this?

00:16:32.640 You do it as well, I do it, they do it, Angela Rainer's like the Tories do it, so yeah, it's all a big grift, isn't it?

00:16:38.380 And it's just like, you're on a TV interview, you could have said that after the interview, you could have said it before the interview, but no, he's like, you know what, no, I want everyone to know it's all a big grift, and we're all in it together,

00:16:48.640 and we all go to the parties, and they invite us, and it's just how it works. 1.00

00:16:52.200 You fucking idiot, like, I'm glad you're doing it, but it's so stupid, right? 1.00

00:16:57.660 He looked so shocked, as he was saying it. 1.00

00:16:59.520 I know, she's like, what are you doing?

00:17:03.000 It's interesting, he says now, I wasn't going to let my son fail, but before the elections, he said that he wouldn't somehow intervene into the NHS.

00:17:11.380 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:17:12.060 And save a really relative.

00:17:14.600 Well, you've got to understand, every single person in England fails their GCSEs, because they're not in 18 million pound penthouses, right?

00:17:22.200 Keir Starmer's son is going to be the only person who passes this year.

00:17:25.340 But anyway, even, like, regime comedians, like Jonathan Pye, are like, my God, how bad are the Labour Party?

00:17:31.960 I mean, he says here, you can't be in opposition for 14 years, criticising the Tories for accepting gifts and certain privileges.

00:17:37.080 Then act surprised when the public call you out for doing the same thing.

00:17:39.560 From Angela Rayner's, but everyone does it excuse, to Starmer saying, it was the right thing to do.

00:17:44.220 Labour need to sort their S out ASAP, because the honeymoon period's go, this has been an absolute car crash.

00:17:48.440 It's like, even Jonathan Pye, again, like, someone who's congenitally, like, intrinsically, morally, spiritually, the managerial Labour class voter.

00:17:58.400 Like, even he's just like, God, you guys are terrible, right?

00:18:01.480 So anyway, let's move on.

00:18:03.060 So you've got the Southport riots, of course, which were almost universally in the Labour heartlands.

00:18:07.840 We have a map here, just to be clear about this.

00:18:10.420 Right, so you might think, hmm, the Labour voters, the Labour base, are really unhappy with what's going on.

00:18:16.680 And how will I handle this?

00:18:18.480 Now, Keir Starmer, of course, came out and just called them racists.

00:18:21.140 And this carried on at the Labour Party protest, at the Labour Party conference.

00:18:25.860 So, quote from Yvette Cooper, the Home Secretary, don't tell me that was a protest.

00:18:30.380 Don't tell me it was about immigration or policing or poverty.

00:18:33.380 It was racism.

00:18:34.580 It was thuggery.

00:18:35.320 It was crime.

00:18:35.680 That's right. 1.00

00:18:36.000 Yeah, call your core heartlands racist, thugs and criminals. 0.99

00:18:39.440 Why not? 0.99

00:18:39.720 Why not do this?

00:18:40.720 How is this going to improve?

00:18:41.720 No, it's not going to improve. 1.00

00:18:42.580 You're going to make yourselves look like morons. 1.00

00:18:44.120 You're going to make yourselves hated, and you're too stupid to understand that this is the consequence. 1.00

00:18:49.940 I mean, there are so many just small, stupid things that the Labour Party does. 1.00

00:18:54.980 I just can't get over it. 0.99

00:18:55.940 And I realise I'm going on, but, like, it's just constant.

00:18:58.800 For example, like, they're going to have a conference.

00:19:02.200 Let's have a conference.

00:19:02.920 Let's bring in all of the billionaires from around the world and get them to invest in the UK.

00:19:06.500 Good thinking.

00:19:07.740 So what about the richest man in the world, who seems to be very pro-Britain, actually?

00:19:11.440 What are we going to do?

00:19:12.040 We're going to keep him out because he said things about the Southport riots on Twitter.

00:19:17.540 And we don't like it.

00:19:19.440 And so we're not going to invite him.

00:19:21.800 So Keir Starmer has been beefing with Elon Musk. 1.00

00:19:24.980 Again, moron, moron. 1.00

00:19:27.380 What are you doing? 1.00

00:19:28.320 Why are you arguing with the richest and one of the most famous men in the world?

00:19:31.240 Why are you publicly doing this?

00:19:33.520 Because he will then say, well, actually, I'm not bothered about being shunned.

00:19:38.460 Quote, I don't think anyone should go to the UK when they're releasing convicted paedophiles in order to imprison people for social media posts, says Musk to 190 million people around the world.

00:19:48.760 Yeah.

00:19:49.600 And OK, well done, Keir.

00:19:52.200 The thing is, as well, there's no way Keir Starmer can compete with Elon Musk.

00:19:56.600 He just needs to say, look, look at my, you know, space company, look at my electric vehicle company, look at all these other things I'm doing, Neuralink, all of these companies.

00:20:06.540 And you're killing grannies. 1.00

00:20:07.740 Yeah. 1.00

00:20:08.380 And freeing paedophiles.

00:20:10.600 That's all he has left to a portion of his audience, though, because they're saying, OK, just he he is against the rich.

00:20:17.780 So he makes this public.

00:20:20.080 Meanwhile, he invites others to do it, to come to the.

00:20:23.680 He's getting some of the rich, but other of the rich.

00:20:25.560 Right. So anyway.

00:20:27.700 The BBC were like, well, hang on a second.

00:20:31.480 The BBC say, quote, earlier this month, the government released some prisoners to reduce prison overcrowding, but no sex offenders were included. 0.99

00:20:39.520 That was wrong because the Labour Party are thick as pig ass. 0.99

00:20:44.540 Right. 0.99

00:20:45.040 So they decided to have this mass releasing of a couple of thousand prisoners, which, of course, the prisoners themselves were thrilled about.

00:20:51.140 Champagne corks.

00:20:52.260 One of them was like, yeah, I'm going to be a Labour voter for life now.

00:20:54.100 It's like, yeah, you look like you've got an IQ of about 90.

00:20:56.360 That's true.

00:20:57.220 You know, you're genuinely representative.

00:20:59.180 Right.

00:20:59.440 But no, they released 37 people who were wrongly tagged to be released.

00:21:04.520 One of them actually was a sex offender.

00:21:08.200 Five of them are still on the loose.

00:21:09.820 They managed to get 32 of them back.

00:21:11.280 This is like Chris Morris writing for Brass Eye.

00:21:14.580 Yes, it is.

00:21:15.160 Yes, it is.

00:21:15.640 It's just like, this is the one thing we didn't want to happen.

00:21:18.280 Yes.

00:21:18.760 So, yeah.

00:21:19.340 I mean, Elon's not wrong. 0.97

00:21:21.220 They released rapists and nonsense and stuff.

00:21:24.320 They did get 32 of them back.

00:21:26.540 Five of them are still on the loose.

00:21:27.740 So, best of luck to the general public, should we say there.

00:21:33.280 And anyway, so that's just catastrophe after catastrophe after catastrophe. 1.00

00:21:38.480 Stupid, unforced errors that didn't have to happen. 1.00

00:21:41.660 And then, of course, Kirstama says at the latest speech, well, the state needs to be in control. 1.00

00:21:46.180 It's going to take back control of people's lives.

00:21:49.220 What a horrifying thing for a politician to say.

00:21:52.740 Yeah.

00:21:55.300 Why would you say that? 1.00

00:21:57.000 Why would you say that unless you were a complete moron? 1.00

00:21:59.440 Even the dictators of the 20th century didn't say it that explicitly. 1.00

00:22:03.580 Well, no, that's not true.

00:22:04.800 Because he doesn't fear any repercussions.

00:22:08.280 I think it's because he's not smart enough to understand.

00:22:12.180 To be of a certain intelligence allows you to create a mental model of someone else's perspective.

00:22:18.340 So, you can think, okay, what would this person think of this?

00:22:21.160 And you go, they probably wouldn't like that.

00:22:23.120 And so, I won't do that because they won't like it.

00:22:25.340 And so, this is essentially the basis of all morality.

00:22:28.340 I don't think he's possible of this.

00:22:29.940 I don't think he's capable of creating a mental model of other people's thoughts.

00:22:34.380 And so, I'd put him at about 95 IQ probably.

00:22:37.020 Something like that.

00:22:37.940 But, unironically, he wants the Labour government to take more control of people's lives.

00:22:43.960 And take control of the market.

00:22:45.380 And Lisa Nandy was like, yeah, we want government walking with you everywhere you go. 1.00

00:22:50.460 God, just leave me alone, you freaks. 1.00

00:22:53.520 Anyway, we're not at the end.

00:22:55.620 David Lammy, of course, went to the United Nations.

00:22:58.060 And gave an amazing little speech towards Putin.

00:23:02.580 I think we'll be amazed we'll just watch it because it's incredible.

00:23:05.680 I also want to speak directly to the Kremlin.

00:23:10.420 And it's representative here today.

00:23:15.080 And Vladimir Putin.

00:23:17.840 Russia sits on this council.

00:23:20.980 But its actions tear up the UN charter.

00:23:26.140 Russia sits on this council.

00:23:28.060 But over the weekend, we saw it before.

00:23:30.860 This isn't actually, there was more to the speech.

00:23:32.700 I've got the wrong one.

00:23:34.300 I thought this was the one.

00:23:35.440 But basically, he sits there and says, I'm a black man.

00:23:38.660 I think he goes on to say that later.

00:23:40.480 Is it in this one, is it?

00:23:41.140 I think it might be, yeah.

00:23:42.200 He's designed to wreck.

00:23:42.820 Maybe it's in the lead up to it. 0.98

00:23:49.360 Yeah, he basically said that he was, he's a black person and he's.

00:23:55.260 I'm a black man.

00:23:56.280 I stand here before you today.

00:23:57.820 And it's like, David.

00:23:58.760 Victims of imperialism and now what Putin does.

00:24:02.380 And it's like, David, I mean, there are so many things wrong with what you're saying here.

00:24:05.260 One, you're sitting down, right?

00:24:06.440 You're not standing before them, right?

00:24:08.180 What you're doing is, I mean, he's literally sitting down, right? 1.00

00:24:11.360 So it's like, you're an absolute moron, right? 1.00

00:24:14.680 You're living through some sort of civil rights fan fiction in your head, right? 1.00

00:24:19.380 Because Russia never had an African empire. 0.78

00:24:22.240 Russia has got 0% black people. 0.70

00:24:24.680 Russia is not historically responsible for oppressing black people. 0.98

00:24:28.200 So you getting up and going, I stand as a black man. 0.66

00:24:30.120 The Russians are like, we know. 1.00

00:24:32.360 What?

00:24:32.800 Why would we care?

00:24:33.800 Actually, Russia's the most ethnically diverse European country.

00:24:36.980 Like, unironically is.

00:24:38.120 And you could say, well, look, if you were a Chechen or something or whatever, 0.94

00:24:41.440 you know, you could be like, well, there's a case against Russian imperialism, blah, blah, blah.

00:24:44.160 But the Africans don't have that string to pull, right? 1.00

00:24:47.180 They've got that with every other.

00:24:48.440 So David has just gone, Russians are white, aren't they? 0.99

00:24:51.860 I'm a black man. 1.00

00:24:52.880 No, no, moron. 1.00

00:24:54.040 It doesn't work on the Russians, you moron. 1.00

00:24:56.540 It works on the Americans. 1.00

00:24:57.400 It works on us.

00:24:58.080 It works on the French.

00:24:58.800 It doesn't work on the Russians. 1.00

00:25:00.480 You're an idiot. 1.00

00:25:01.180 But that is interesting because it shows the weirdness of critical race theory. 1.00

00:25:07.660 It's just an Americanism.

00:25:10.240 Everything is, everything that happens in the world is interpreted through lenses of critical race theory.

00:25:16.500 Absolutely.

00:25:17.120 And it is an embarrassment.

00:25:18.540 It's just like, because the thing is, he's not wrong that, you know, Russia's a mafia state and he wants to become a mafia empire.

00:25:22.420 Yeah, okay, yeah, sure.

00:25:23.740 But I mean, you know, in this he's going on about, oh, I can't believe you're invading places.

00:25:27.820 Yeah.

00:25:28.680 Yeah.

00:25:29.720 Yeah.

00:25:30.560 We'd never do that.

00:25:31.760 You know, what about Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan?

00:25:34.320 What about Palestine? 1.00

00:25:35.580 You know, God, you know, so you make us look ridiculous through your hypocrisy. 1.00

00:25:40.760 You are a moron. 1.00

00:25:42.120 Absolute moron. 1.00

00:25:43.660 Right. 1.00

00:25:43.800 And what's worse is that Keir Starmer decided to go over to Biden and was like, look, can we just start striking Russia? 0.99

00:25:50.700 And Biden was like, no, that would be moronic, wouldn't it? 0.93

00:25:54.240 Like, because, but Putin's literally come out and say, well, I mean, we've got loads of nuclear weapons. 1.00

00:25:57.620 So, you know, so we are actually, we have a warmongering, retarded cabinet who keep doing really stupid things. 1.00

00:26:08.580 And even the Guardian are like, God, Keir, would you stop? 0.99

00:26:14.940 Imagine being at the Security Council and saying, I know what it is.

00:26:19.060 I'm standing against Putin.

00:26:20.680 I know what it is to not be allowed to enter, to enter the toilet of my gender or something.

00:26:27.120 Yeah, but that's where Lammy's at, where he's like, I'm a black man.

00:26:30.880 And they're like, and Keir Starmer as well, got up in front of the UN Council and was like, I can't believe Russia would show their face here.

00:26:36.080 It's like, Keir, they're not liberals.

00:26:38.600 Like, they don't have your morality.

00:26:40.200 They don't agree with you.

00:26:41.360 You're like, you know, angrily, like, giving them the side eye across the thing, like Lammy did. 0.98

00:26:45.660 And it's just like, you're an embarrassment. 0.99

00:26:48.020 You have no dignity. 1.00

00:26:49.680 You're moronic. 1.00

00:26:50.920 And they're all looking around at you. 1.00

00:26:52.820 They're all looking at you.

00:26:53.460 God, is this what the UK is run by?

00:26:55.900 It's like, yes, we're literally, we're a more unoccupied country.

00:26:59.820 And unfortunately, we sent David Lammy as our representative.

00:27:03.820 We sent Keir Starmer over to America to get rebuffed by Biden, of all people, about, like, launching missiles at Russia. 1.00

00:27:11.820 It's like, God, we're so stupid. 0.99

00:27:14.380 Next Secretary of Foreign Affairs will be able to say, sorry, I know the tragedy of looking at skid marks on a pride mural. 1.00

00:27:22.380 So, we are just occupied by morons, and it infuriates me. 0.99

00:27:29.380 There are a lot of super chats on that subject, which is interesting. 0.99

00:27:33.480 Keith says, at this point, I'm starting to think Keir Starmer is a ploy to screw over Labour, like some kind of plant.

00:27:38.380 How else can he do everything incredibly wrong to an inconceivable level?

00:27:42.080 Honestly, it's a brilliant question.

00:27:43.500 Like, if I thought that the Labour Party were capable of planning ahead like that, I might suspect the same thing.

00:27:50.280 But I just don't think they've got it in them.

00:27:51.720 Binary says, based on performance to date, Keir is the type of man who, when he comes to a woman in a dark alley, would say,

00:27:57.760 That's your position.

00:28:00.680 I'm not going to read the rest of that.

00:28:03.000 Jam says, I find it funny that we were told to stay home during COVID to save Granny so Labour could freeze him to death now.

00:28:09.420 Well, remember, the lockdowns were the Conservative policy.

00:28:12.300 Keir Starmer would have been like, well, bring about maid. 0.94

00:28:15.200 You know, we'll forcibly get rid of them. 0.98

00:28:16.980 And GLE says, Keir the meathead, when beefing with Elon Musk can always fall back on the, look at my sausage.

00:28:24.340 Well, he does want them returned, doesn't he?

00:28:26.520 Right. So, a few days ago, Millet and Bukele spoke at the 79th UN General Assembly, and they literally rocked the UN.

00:28:41.240 See, world leaders are not embarrassing.

00:28:43.980 Exactly.

00:28:44.320 They literally rocked it, so they're throwing rocks at the UN.

00:28:47.500 No, that was what David Lammy was doing.

00:28:50.720 Yes, and I think it's a good idea to have a discussion a bit about some of the points they raised to show the contrast between their own examples and the politicians we have now.

00:29:01.680 Because the way it seems to me, it is like governments in the West right now, they are not fulfilling their basic duties.

00:29:10.320 People are feeling resentful because the governments are not fulfilling their basic duties.

00:29:16.140 And the reaction of the government isn't to recalibrate the system and shift the direction.

00:29:20.640 No, it's to raise our taxes.

00:29:21.680 It's to raise our taxes.

00:29:22.800 Basically, try to destroy national sovereignty, flood the country with people who frequently don't care about the country. 0.96

00:29:31.880 Largely criminals.

00:29:33.680 Yeah.

00:29:34.020 Oh, yeah, releasing the criminals.

00:29:35.260 Forgot about that, man.

00:29:35.780 Yes, and I think that it's a good idea to talk a bit about what they represent, at least in most people's minds.

00:29:42.320 They're far from perfect, but they literally have an allure that I think we should discuss a bit.

00:29:48.320 Oh, yeah.

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00:30:30.280 Right, let's go now to the speech that Millet gave, and I think that it's interesting to

00:30:39.520 see some of the things that he did with the speech.

00:30:43.880 We have a speech that is translated into English.

00:30:46.960 What was he used to call the leftist?

00:30:51.100 Like, what was the term he used to call?

00:30:53.100 There were a few.

00:30:54.320 But like, they're always really offensive.

00:30:56.580 They were Freddy-like. 0.97

00:30:58.040 They were like excrement. 0.94

00:30:59.300 Yeah, yeah, something like that, yeah.

00:31:00.920 Yeah, that you can't give them a millimeter or something.

00:31:03.320 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it.

00:31:04.860 Anyway.

00:31:05.720 Right, so what he did here, he did several things.

00:31:08.540 So first of all, it seems like he tries to gain a more positive view, and he says with

00:31:14.360 his speech that Argentina is not going to have the neutral face it had so far, and it's

00:31:20.440 going to be pro-freedom and pro-the forces of freedom.

00:31:23.780 It's going to be very similar to his speech at the WEF then.

00:31:26.560 Well.

00:31:27.520 Which was great.

00:31:28.120 His speech at the WEF is great.

00:31:30.400 Here, he is criticized by several sides, but I think that to a very large degree, this

00:31:35.740 is a bit far-fetched, because it's one thing to express a point for someone who says, okay,

00:31:43.660 let's destroy the corrupt system. 0.99

00:31:45.400 And everyone who doesn't want this, only the beneficiaries.

00:31:49.980 Joe Biden.

00:31:50.960 Only the beneficiaries of corrupt systems.

00:31:53.020 But when...

00:31:53.860 That's LeVon Delen.

00:31:54.500 Sorry, there are actually a really large number of people who don't want to destroy the corrupt

00:31:57.600 system.

00:31:57.900 I think maybe we can fit them into the category of beneficiaries of corrupt systems.

00:32:02.560 DELENSKY.

00:32:02.900 Yeah, I know.

00:32:04.820 I just could name them.

00:32:05.880 That's all.

00:32:06.660 I think we could be here until tomorrow if you possibly...

00:32:10.900 Sorry, carry on.

00:32:11.540 Joe Biden.

00:32:12.620 Yeah.

00:32:13.780 Ronald Harris.

00:32:14.500 Now, that's what's going to happen in this segment.

00:32:16.260 I'm just going to start talking about this segment, and then you're going to just mention

00:32:19.660 names here.

00:32:20.260 I think listing people who are in favor of the corrupt system is a good thing.

00:32:23.620 I think naming them is good.

00:32:24.700 Bill Gates.

00:32:25.960 Making lists.

00:32:28.000 Checking them twice.

00:32:30.820 Right, so basically...

00:32:32.360 This could go forever, couldn't it?

00:32:33.900 Go on, sorry, go on.

00:32:35.300 I'll let you carry on.

00:32:36.860 Right, so basically he said that Argentina now is not going to be neutral.

00:32:40.920 It is going to be in the side of the forces of freedom.

00:32:45.520 And I want to show you some of the bits here.

00:32:50.260 We'll fast forward to 3.30.

00:32:53.700 Let me...

00:32:54.640 Because he essentially says that the UN had some good ideas, some good things to go about

00:33:04.180 it in the beginning, but it forgot its principles.

00:33:07.000 So it said that at some point, like in the history of every bureaucratic organization, at

00:33:13.480 some point, good ideas are being abused and exactly are taken by communists.

00:33:18.820 I thought he's meant to be a libertarian.

00:33:20.020 And shouldn't he say that supranational governments are immoral, evil, and destroying the world?

00:33:25.320 He says this.

00:33:25.960 Okay, good.

00:33:26.360 The thing is, he's kind of on the sort of Thomas Paine position when it comes to all of this

00:33:30.420 sort of stuff, where Thomas Paine was actually kind of in favor of a League of Nations in

00:33:35.200 Europe to prevent war.

00:33:36.800 But he was also insanely anti-government.

00:33:39.620 So he just blamed the government for just everything.

00:33:41.440 So I know you're reading now about Thomas Paine, and he does refer to the idea of inalienable

00:33:46.740 rights.

00:33:47.500 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:33:47.900 That's why I think this...

00:33:49.180 He's very similar to Thomas Paine.

00:33:50.360 This segment is very rich in discussion.

00:33:53.300 It is.

00:33:53.600 And maybe we could just say some stuff.

00:33:56.060 So he essentially says that basically, at some point, it turned into a supranationalist

00:34:01.480 socialist government.

00:34:02.660 Yeah.

00:34:02.760 And I know that you think that sometimes that this is an inevitable conclusion of...

00:34:09.060 Not even sometimes.

00:34:09.860 ...of some ideas.

00:34:10.860 Okay, maybe we could revive this.

00:34:13.800 Now, at some point, and as often happens with most of the bureaucratic structures that

00:34:18.180 we humans create, this organization stopped upholding the principles outlined in its founding

00:34:23.060 declaration and began to mutate.

00:34:26.140 An organization that had been conceived essentially as a shield to protect the realm of men transformed

00:34:31.940 into a multi-tentacled Leviathan that seeks to decide not only what each nation-state should

00:34:37.140 do, but also how all the citizens of the world should live.

00:34:41.180 This is how we went from an organization that pursued peace to an organization that imposes

00:34:46.140 an ideological agenda on its members regarding a myriad of issues that pertain to human life

00:34:51.880 in society.

00:34:54.180 Okay.

00:34:55.360 The problem is, the very principle it was founded on was an ideological agenda that was imposing

00:35:00.680 itself on various other nations.

00:35:03.840 America.

00:35:04.700 Sorry?

00:35:05.740 Soft right. 0.54

00:35:07.180 Ignore that, America.

00:35:08.900 I don't know where that came from.

00:35:09.600 Like, and I'm not saying that the ideology is bad, but it is ideological, and so once

00:35:13.980 you've agreed, no, we have the authority to impose an ideological agenda on someone, someone

00:35:18.140 else is going to come along and say, well, I've got a different ideological agenda, or maybe

00:35:20.760 an extension of your ideological agenda, and I'm just as authorized by the same authority

00:35:27.880 you claim for yourself to do it.

00:35:30.740 So, I think it's interesting because when we're talking about ideology, we could, in

00:35:36.580 a sense, everyone has an ideology.

00:35:38.940 It's unavoidable, yeah.

00:35:40.520 Because it seems to me that an ideology is a system of ideas.

00:35:44.060 It's a way of comprehending the world.

00:35:46.160 I think that's far too broad.

00:35:47.500 I think it's impossible not to be ideological, and the only way you can't be ideological is

00:35:52.460 if you're, like, brain dead in, like, a coma on a, like, you've got no thoughts going

00:35:57.360 through your head, and you're just a vessel.

00:35:59.580 The thing is, I think that the people who propagate ideology would like you to think that.

00:36:04.520 They would like you to be like, yeah, no, you're right.

00:36:06.320 Our way of thinking isn't any way of thinking.

00:36:07.840 But an ideology strictly can be defined as a propositional set of ideas that come from

00:36:17.120 a priori principles.

00:36:18.880 Most of the world isn't like that.

00:36:20.820 But there is another thing here, because it seems to me that there is something going

00:36:25.480 for, we can say something positive about the idea of a priori principles, but we can

00:36:30.740 go to that a bit later.

00:36:32.120 Sure, but they're not necessarily, the difference between having a set of a priori values, or

00:36:40.460 principles, and the logical propositional nature of an ideology, is that having a set

00:36:45.920 of values doesn't demand universal change.

00:36:48.900 It's about you personally valuing something and looking around.

00:36:53.060 But when you begin from the position that he's begun on, and from any of the liberals have

00:36:57.440 begun on, the ideological position gives you a mandate to attack all that came before.

00:37:04.640 I think this is a feature of basically everyone's thought, because everyone who, and if there

00:37:09.800 is one ideology that is least susceptible to it, I think this is the malaise, because if

00:37:16.580 we can talk about ideology in the abstract, there's systems of proposition, but it's good to

00:37:22.620 see them concretely, like with cultures.

00:37:25.820 So we could say that, for instance, the ideology that Millet is for is one that is the ideology

00:37:32.220 of limited government.

00:37:33.660 And he contrasts this with the ideology of ever-expanding government.

00:37:39.160 Sure, but they're just having a discussion on the same topic, right?

00:37:43.540 Most people don't have a comprehensive propositional worldview.

00:37:46.540 So most people aren't actually ideological, like when you're walking down the street, like

00:37:51.540 very few of those people, because the point of an ideology is that it's, it begins in

00:37:56.640 theory, right?

00:37:57.600 So someone theoretically writes down, and so you have an author that is the person behind

00:38:03.060 the ideology, which is why when they say, oh, it's far-right ideology, it's like, okay,

00:38:06.460 well, who's behind it?

00:38:07.540 Like, give us the name of the author, give us the principles that the ideology works by.

00:38:10.920 Give us the intended outcome that they, there's no answer to any of this, because it's not

00:38:15.140 ideological.

00:38:16.140 So in theory, that's probably the most confusing way I could start this, but ideology, as you're

00:38:23.900 framing it here, is someone's understanding of the world, and it may or may not map onto

00:38:28.800 the world, that there's an objective reality, and this is their subjective understanding

00:38:32.920 of it, and sometimes it...

00:38:34.000 No, no, no.

00:38:34.780 The thing is, if you look at the origin of ideology, it became very quickly an almost kind

00:38:39.860 of alchemical intellectual exercise, where they established a set of rational principles

00:38:47.420 that they would themselves use as foundational propositions, and then compare the world,

00:38:52.620 them to the world, and say, well, hang on a second, the world doesn't resemble this at

00:38:55.740 all.

00:38:56.160 So they've essentially made themselves up a little fancy about how they'd like the world

00:38:59.000 to be, and then they've applied that standard to the world and found the world completely

00:39:02.800 lacking, because of course the world is not made up from ideology.

00:39:05.820 The world is made up from people just interacting, mostly unthinkingly, and this renders all

00:39:11.460 of the world completely unfree.

00:39:13.520 I mean, Thomas Paine is, in fact, completely guilty of this, saying, look, America is the

00:39:16.580 only free country in the entire world.

00:39:18.020 It's like...

00:39:18.820 And Burke's like, what?

00:39:20.140 I thought I lived in a free country.

00:39:21.260 What the hell happened?

00:39:22.440 You know, and Burke's just sat there going, no, but I do live in a free country.

00:39:25.540 What are you talking about?

00:39:26.600 And Paine's like, no, because you've got a king, and a king is an inherently tyrannical institution,

00:39:31.100 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:39:31.560 And it's like, okay, so you've made up a standard, and you're applying it to the rest

00:39:35.260 of the world.

00:39:35.460 And the only reason that Malay doesn't sound like a raging ideologue himself is because 0.95

00:39:39.460 we live long after that revolution.

00:39:42.800 All of the things that Malay's ideology was trying to get rid of have already been gotten 1.00

00:39:46.820 rid of.

00:39:47.540 And so we live in the post-liberal world.

00:39:50.340 So what Malay is saying is completely rational to us, because it makes sense, and, you know,

00:39:54.420 it's all around us.

00:39:56.500 And the socialists are just saying, well, yeah, but we're supposed to go further, and that's

00:40:00.560 why we are resistant.

00:40:01.500 But to sort of flesh this out a bit more, if I were to say, well, I don't believe in

00:40:08.620 murdering people, but murders go on, would you say that's an ideological statement?

00:40:13.640 That's a value statement.

00:40:16.020 But do your values not inform your projection for what an ideal world would be?

00:40:22.200 Sure.

00:40:22.500 But most people don't have a utopian view of what the world should be like in their

00:40:27.800 head, right?

00:40:28.320 But the thing is, though, the difference is that having a value statement is, I like

00:40:33.760 something.

00:40:34.520 You know, I feel that it should be good.

00:40:36.000 That's, you're entirely sentimental.

00:40:38.560 It's non-rational a lot of the time.

00:40:40.660 It's completely gut.

00:40:42.040 I've been habituated into believing these things.

00:40:44.000 But the difference is ideology is that they're rational propositions that logically have

00:40:48.500 conclusions that follow from them, right?

00:40:50.380 So you have to have a conclusion drawn from the premise.

00:40:53.600 And this is, it has a force within it.

00:40:58.700 And so it goes on a certain sort of set of rails that it sets for itself, and it needs

00:41:02.900 to keep going down those rails.

00:41:04.820 This is the problem with ideology.

00:41:06.180 This is why ideology spins out of control.

00:41:08.020 But the question here, because it seems to me that from a realistic perspective, this

00:41:12.920 may be a bit naive to think that we can live in a world where power and ideology don't

00:41:18.680 combine.

00:41:19.500 So if they are to combine, why shouldn't we just pick the one that is the least bad, let's

00:41:24.760 say, the one that has been connected with, let's say, economic growth, with more freedom

00:41:31.440 and with less, let's say, negative aspects?

00:41:35.560 I'm going to say something very good.

00:41:37.280 Without saying that this is, without saying that this is a panacea, a cure for all.

00:41:42.460 There's only one ideology.

00:41:44.820 Mine.

00:41:46.620 No, it's, well, it's, it's Enlightenment liberalism.

00:41:50.900 That's the only ideology.

00:41:52.920 That's not a law.

00:41:53.880 I mean, Marxism is an ideology.

00:41:55.400 No, it's not.

00:41:56.080 It's, yeah, but it's not separate, right?

00:41:57.840 It is.

00:41:58.500 No, it's not.

00:41:58.980 It's entirely based.

00:41:59.980 It's a, it's a different stage of it, but it's entirely based on the same concept because

00:42:04.440 the, the very notion of ideology comes from, oh, what's it, what's his name?

00:42:09.620 Like, it's some very fancy gay sounding French name. 0.62

00:42:14.200 Anton de Tracy or something, I think it was.

00:42:16.380 I think you're right.

00:42:17.020 Who wrote Elements of Ideology.

00:42:18.360 And it was meant to be a science of ideas.

00:42:19.860 And Marx picks this up in the German ideology.

00:42:23.460 And then in the 20th century, by the end of the 19th century, it's become a kind of very

00:42:26.540 normal thing to have ideologies.

00:42:28.640 And by the 20th century, it's just the century of ideology.

00:42:31.700 But they all come from the same river, right?

00:42:34.620 And they're just sort of different streams that are coming off of it.

00:42:37.360 So really there is, ideology is one thing.

00:42:40.580 And it's the rational propositions that logically follow from a certain set of.

00:42:46.040 I think this, I think this has a sort, some sort of origins in Hobbes because he wanted

00:42:51.100 to view, he wanted to view politics as a science and he wanted to have the basic premises from

00:42:57.040 which everything else followed.

00:42:58.500 And he built his science of politics, however, you know, one likes it or not.

00:43:02.660 But something to say here is that it seems to me that if we are to have power, and I think

00:43:07.800 that's, you know, there will be ideology.

00:43:10.260 And it seems to me that what ideology is.

00:43:12.500 There was power before there was ideology.

00:43:14.080 It's not that there can't be, it's not that there can't be dogmas.

00:43:17.680 I think it changed, it changed position because you could say that even power in previous

00:43:22.400 centuries and even in antiquity, there was a kind of narrative that tried to justify power.

00:43:32.500 So for instance, you could say that.

00:43:33.820 That's true.

00:43:34.100 There's always narratives to justify power.

00:43:35.980 But ideology is something particular and special because of the roots that it relies on.

00:43:42.080 It relies on something being rationally justifiable, whereas most of the time, whatever the narrative

00:43:47.880 to justify power was, was just totally irrational.

00:43:50.180 God made it so, you know, or I won the battle, therefore.

00:43:53.320 But wouldn't that be better if it's rationally justifiable?

00:43:55.840 Because you could always, you could, when it is rationally...

00:43:59.480 I don't want to transition my kids. 1.00

00:44:00.720 Excuse me?

00:44:01.760 The end consequence of that is transitioning your kids. 0.98

00:44:04.500 I'd rather be burning heretics at the stake.

00:44:06.400 I mean, that was a completely new phenomenon now. 0.93

00:44:09.500 Yeah, but it's all part of the same process.

00:44:11.660 But anyway, I won't go.

00:44:12.820 Anyway, so let's go here.

00:44:14.460 It seems to me that this is an interesting question to ask, whether you think that, for

00:44:18.400 instance, the UN 2030 agenda.

00:44:20.640 So what Millet is saying, basically, that this is a supra-national socialist agenda.

00:44:26.460 Obviously true.

00:44:27.020 And what is interesting now, because there are debates and controversies now, is whether

00:44:34.220 this is the logical conclusion of an ideology like the one Millet is embracing or not.

00:44:42.020 I think it's not.

00:44:43.340 And actually, I think the reason why is because the bedrock of what Millet is supporting is

00:44:48.560 the idea of the rule of law.

00:44:49.640 And it's not a coincidence that in order to pursue the 2030 agenda, wokeness is precisely

00:44:56.980 an attack on the rule of law.

00:44:58.900 No, Keir Starmer is 100% behind the rule of law.

00:45:01.860 Not at all.

00:45:02.900 He's arbitrary.

00:45:03.780 He's going to define the law to tell you who's in favor.

00:45:07.760 Yeah, but that's not what the rule of law is about.

00:45:10.420 The rule of law is, as it was conceived, it was precisely something that was against arbitrariness.

00:45:16.640 Keir Starmer comes along and says, I have subjectivized legislation so much as wokeness, and now I'm

00:45:25.740 at the position where I'm arbitrarily governing the country.

00:45:29.280 I'm doing anything I want.

00:45:30.560 I'm not accountable for anyone.

00:45:32.180 Keir Starmer literally came in and said, he hasn't written a single law yet.

00:45:36.680 He hasn't passed a single law.

00:45:37.940 He said, all the laws are here for me to do exactly what I want.

00:45:40.960 He is using the established laws that the conservatives put into place to do all of this.

00:45:44.940 Like, so he's not governing arbitrarily.

00:45:47.100 It's totally legal, everything that he's doing.

00:45:49.640 And I don't think there'll be any legal challenges to anything.

00:45:52.020 But how is non-arbitrary governance when, you know, people are just put in jail for social

00:45:59.480 media posts?

00:46:00.260 Yeah, but that's illegal.

00:46:01.960 That's illegal according to what law?

00:46:04.920 The...

00:46:05.360 The harms law.

00:46:06.360 No, the Section 127 of the Communications Act.

00:46:08.920 Okay, but doesn't this have to do with, sometimes with the notion of the psychological harm?

00:46:14.800 Sure, but there's also kind of a...

00:46:16.400 That's how it became arbitrary.

00:46:18.240 Well, I don't know if that's necessarily arbitrary.

00:46:20.180 Because again, it's not on a whim.

00:46:22.120 It is with law.

00:46:23.180 It's all there.

00:46:23.760 Everyone can read the law.

00:46:26.480 It's not arbitrary.

00:46:27.780 It's just evil.

00:46:29.080 I think it's a product of just what I would call bad law.

00:46:31.860 When you write subjectivity into laws, it enables tyranny, doesn't it?

00:46:36.900 It's not that.

00:46:37.640 The problem is the laws themselves are political, right?

00:46:40.640 The law has a political intention, and the intention is to make sure that no one's ever

00:46:45.280 a racist, right?

00:46:46.640 And it's like, okay, but that's a political act.

00:46:48.520 And so, like, when Macron was like, oh, well, you know, we're not going to be locking anyone

00:46:51.300 up.

00:46:51.500 It's all going to be done by the law.

00:46:52.440 It's like, the law is made by politicians.

00:46:55.000 So you could...

00:46:56.240 Sorry, just one thing.

00:46:57.240 It's necessarily political.

00:46:58.360 So, on the subjective point that I made, I think the best example of that is the Chinese 0.99

00:47:02.360 Communist Party, in that they have laws which they enforce selectively upon their political

00:47:09.080 enemies, and they don't enforce them on their friends.

00:47:11.320 Just like the Labour Party.

00:47:12.360 Yes, exactly.

00:47:13.400 However, they write this into the legislation because it gives them a sort of formal cloak

00:47:20.300 to be able to do basically what they want, which is target people politically, but it's

00:47:26.320 also written into the legislation.

00:47:28.700 But the thing is, even if the legislation was actually good legislation and enforced fairly,

00:47:33.140 it would still be a valid charge to say that this law is a political law, right?

00:47:38.060 Sure.

00:47:38.740 You've got a political intention behind the law.

00:47:41.700 And so, essentially, anyone will always be able to say, I think that law was designed

00:47:46.620 to target me politically rather than morally or from a consent of justice.

00:47:51.700 That's its sort of intention, but I was sort of talking more about how it comes about,

00:47:56.940 how it manifests.

00:47:58.040 Yeah.

00:47:58.280 But the point being, the appeal to laws as being objective or neutral is, and the postmodernists

00:48:05.060 are right about this, not true.

00:48:06.640 I agree with that, yeah.

00:48:07.420 One point to say is that it seems to me that the tradition of the rule of law doesn't just

00:48:11.760 say that we should govern according to just any law that exists.

00:48:15.460 No, it should be our law.

00:48:16.240 It's opposition to arbitrariness.

00:48:19.720 And people could put forward laws that allow extra room for arbitrary interpretation of

00:48:26.820 them and therefore coercion according to them.

00:48:29.940 So, for instance, if people just voted the law and said, we need to give absolute power

00:48:33.960 to people who are going to combat anti-racism.

00:48:37.640 Which is what they've done.

00:48:39.380 Yeah.

00:48:39.940 That's arbitrariness.

00:48:41.200 That's no rule of law.

00:48:42.160 I don't...

00:48:43.000 Because it goes against the spirit of the rule of law.

00:48:46.340 No.

00:48:46.860 See, I don't know if I agree with this.

00:48:49.440 I think the problem is you have abstracted the concept of the rule of law outside of any

00:48:54.260 context, right?

00:48:55.440 No.

00:48:55.560 No, no, but you have.

00:48:57.200 You've got the...

00:48:58.220 But you're just talking about the rule of law as if, you know, somewhere in existence

00:49:02.380 is in Plato's forms as a form of the rule of law that you're appealing to, right?

00:49:06.720 And that normally makes sense because normally you don't have a critical theory undermining

00:49:14.100 absolutely everything.

00:49:15.480 If we would, say, ground it specifically in a place and a time and a people and say, this

00:49:22.180 is against the English conception of the rule of law, then you'd be like, oh yeah, very

00:49:25.840 much so, obviously.

00:49:27.060 You know, obviously we shouldn't be persecuting Englishmen for the things that they say because

00:49:30.980 they didn't, you know, they said something racist or sexist or transphobic online.

00:49:34.220 But when it's abstracted away from that context, once you put it in the context, you've got

00:49:39.080 a standard by which to compare it, right?

00:49:41.060 Yeah, you know, you could say, well, it's kind of rough, actually.

00:49:44.180 The traditional English conception of the rule of law was that actually an Englishman

00:49:48.140 could say whatever he liked and this was set during, like, the English Civil War, you

00:49:51.360 know, this legal precedent.

00:49:53.200 So it's rough and ready, you know, there are going to be a lot of hurt feelings, but that's

00:49:58.660 the English conception of liberty.

00:49:59.880 But the thing is, that's not a conception of liberty that actually is more popular at the

00:50:03.920 moment.

00:50:04.780 I agree with you.

00:50:05.980 I agree with you on this.

00:50:07.300 I think it is mostly the English conception of liberty and I think that it has some, you

00:50:12.560 could say, some ancient Hellenic and Roman elements, but there's a lot of into it that

00:50:20.280 is distinctively English.

00:50:22.140 I have no problem with this.

00:50:23.300 In the modern, you understand.

00:50:24.460 It's just that I don't think that relativism is the way to go.

00:50:27.760 I think it's objectively better conception of liberty.

00:50:30.540 Yeah, I personally agree, but that would just be your own prejudice, right?

00:50:35.120 I'm not prejudiced.

00:50:36.160 I'm objective.

00:50:37.280 It's fine to have a prejudice in favor of the English conception of liberty.

00:50:40.920 I've got that prejudice, but we know that there are loads of people who don't have that

00:50:44.140 prejudice.

00:50:44.640 And so, you know, when we're trying to persuade them, really all we can do is say, well,

00:50:49.600 look, I just feel this one is better.

00:50:51.000 And they'll say, yeah, okay, I feel this other one is better.

00:50:53.920 Well, also certain people have to be compatible with the laws.

00:50:57.200 Like, we can't just pick up English liberalism, drop it on Iraq and it works. 0.87

00:51:01.360 Drop it on France?

00:51:02.280 Yeah.

00:51:02.520 It didn't work there, you know.

00:51:03.960 Should we go to Bukela to end the segment?

00:51:07.240 Because he says something really interesting.

00:51:09.820 I'll fast forward to 050 and I'll translate for, I won't translate, I'll read the thing because

00:51:18.380 I don't know, I'll have the volume off and I'll tell you what he says.

00:51:25.180 He's essentially saying the leaders of the West have turned their back on their citizens.

00:51:31.160 Which is true.

00:51:31.820 That people in El Salvador now feel secure and optimistic, whereas in the West they feel

00:51:38.100 insecure and pessimistic.

00:51:39.800 I love what he's wearing.

00:51:40.680 I was just about to say, he looks like a sort of galactic emperor from Star Wars or something

00:51:45.440 like that, doesn't he?

00:51:46.260 He looks like he's a dune or something.

00:51:47.620 But what is interesting, because the video is unloading, it's okay, but I'll tell you

00:51:52.080 in a nutshell what he said.

00:51:53.360 But he said that countries of the free world, they became great because they adhered to the

00:51:59.340 principles of free speech, trade, freedom, rule of law and stuff.

00:52:04.580 And now they've turned their back on them.

00:52:06.040 And both Millet and Bukele, they essentially said, we're not telling you how to live, but

00:52:10.380 we are telling you where the road you're leading yourselves to, you're walking.

00:52:17.660 South America has been through what we're going through right now.

00:52:21.120 They've been so corrupted by leftism that for the last literally 50 years, they've been down

00:52:27.080 this road.

00:52:27.580 And now they're coming out of it with really strong leaders.

00:52:30.720 Well, they're very similar to the sort of former Soviet satellite states in Eastern Europe,

00:52:35.180 aren't they?

00:52:35.460 In that they've experienced left-wing politics, and that's made them very resistant to it.

00:52:39.680 Yeah.

00:52:40.080 But I'll say something that I think we will all agree on about what he says, because

00:52:43.440 he says we're prioritizing our honest citizens over the comfort of our criminals. 0.91

00:52:47.860 Crazy.

00:52:48.120 And I think, yeah, this is, I mean, this is just obvious common sense.

00:52:53.720 But what is interesting is that this shows a lot of how the notion of human rights is

00:52:59.100 completely misused nowadays, because adults know that we have to make a choice.

00:53:05.340 Sometimes we can't have it all.

00:53:07.520 So when it comes to cases like that, we have to make a choice and choices require a hierarchy

00:53:14.400 of values.

00:53:14.940 So when people are right now protecting the criminals, and they make our societies worse,

00:53:22.660 they're actually either destroying their very idea of a hierarchy of values or subverting

00:53:27.320 them and actively turning their back to their citizens and prioritize criminals.

00:53:33.520 And as Bukele says at some point in his speech, you can't expect to be respected from your people

00:53:40.840 if you don't respect your people.

00:53:42.440 And if you just look at the approval ratings of, say, Keir Starmer in Britain and Bukele

00:53:46.980 in El Salvador, Bukele's like on 90% consistently.

00:53:51.400 Keir Starmer's on 25%.

00:53:53.160 Well, El Salvador probably has a lower crime rate now than Britain.

00:53:56.580 If we were to measure...

00:53:58.320 It's not even probable.

00:53:59.040 We know it does.

00:53:59.880 Oh, really?

00:54:00.380 Oh, yeah.

00:54:02.720 Should we go to the comments?

00:54:04.720 Yeah.

00:54:07.320 Cranky Texan says, to quote, a great philosopher of our time, ideology is political programming

00:54:11.280 from Midwits.

00:54:11.840 Hey, that's me.

00:54:14.140 Let's carry on because we're running short time.

00:54:16.320 Okay.

00:54:17.340 I thought we were going to read some more comments.

00:54:19.000 Well, if you send in a dollar soup chat and we're running late, which we are running late,

00:54:23.280 I'm sorry.

00:54:24.500 Yeah.

00:54:24.860 $5 plus, I'm afraid.

00:54:26.260 Yeah.

00:54:26.620 I've just made that up.

00:54:27.700 Guarantee.

00:54:27.920 I've made that up arbitrarily just to spite Carl.

00:54:30.380 There's no rule of law.

00:54:31.700 No, but that's Stelios.

00:54:33.200 I agree.

00:54:34.300 It's arbitrariness all the way down.

00:54:35.540 Oh, yeah.

00:54:35.820 Sorry, Stelios.

00:54:36.400 Anyway, I need the stuff, don't I?

00:54:40.120 Of course, of course.

00:54:42.720 I've got two boxes and no mouse.

00:54:44.900 Hang on.

00:54:45.920 Right, there we go.

00:54:47.260 Sorry about that.

00:54:48.580 Getting too excited about presenting my segment.

00:54:51.940 So, the English.

00:54:53.980 Do we exist?

00:54:55.640 Are we real?

00:54:56.620 We're getting decolonized out of our own universe.

00:54:59.200 Stelios has just poked me.

00:55:01.180 Yeah, but if we don't exist, what are they decolonizing in Oxford?

00:55:04.600 Exactly.

00:55:05.040 And who are they going to blame?

00:55:07.120 Yeah, exactly.

00:55:07.940 They'll find other people to blame, but they are also blaming the...

00:55:10.880 Oh, this is my favorite thing.

00:55:11.820 Diversity built Britain.

00:55:12.800 Oh, right.

00:55:13.220 So, is it responsible for the empire?

00:55:14.500 No, that's the white people.

00:55:15.640 Oh, okay.

00:55:17.100 Also, it didn't build Britain.

00:55:19.680 No, of course not.

00:55:20.580 But it's their own premise, you know.

00:55:22.200 You know, post-World War II, even if it did build Britain, it's a worse version of Britain. 0.91

00:55:26.800 Britain was a great empire right up until the end of World War II.

00:55:30.000 Diversity ruined Britain, even by their own standards. 1.00

00:55:32.800 But anyway, recently, Robert Jenrick went on Sky News and spoke to Matt Barbit, whoever that is.

00:55:39.140 I think he's some Welsh fella. 1.00

00:55:41.680 And he's obviously a conservative leadership hopeful.

00:55:45.860 And this guy interrupted him saying,

00:55:48.620 I'm going to interrupt you, what is English identity?

00:55:52.360 Which is a very strange question to ask.

00:55:55.560 And as it has been pointed out by one of the lead writers at The Telegraph here,

00:56:01.280 if you recognise the idea of a distinctly Scottish, Welsh and Irish identity,

00:56:05.700 which the guy interviewing did,

00:56:08.620 then you implicitly concede the existence of an English identity as the remainder.

00:56:13.200 It's not particularly controversial outside of the small circle of people who work in media and politics.

00:56:17.920 And I thought that this was quite succinctly put,

00:56:19.880 and I wanted to give credit.

00:56:21.060 My credit is due here.

00:56:22.220 It's not a good answer.

00:56:23.300 It's not far enough, though.

00:56:24.760 I am going to build upon this.

00:56:26.300 It's basically saying that even by his own standards, it's wrong.

00:56:31.700 But I'm going to completely move out of the paradigm,

00:56:34.660 stop being a stick in the mud. 0.97

00:56:36.000 I'm going to move out of this paradigm and say,

00:56:37.820 being English is genetic.

00:56:39.740 None of this other stuff about values, passport...

00:56:41.860 That's not what he asked.

00:56:43.000 It's not, no.

00:56:43.480 He didn't say, what is it to be English?

00:56:45.500 Because you are right.

00:56:46.580 That is the case, right?

00:56:47.900 What he asked is, what is English identity?

00:56:51.280 But it's ballooned into the...

00:56:52.800 It did, but that's because everyone misread what he was asking for, right?

00:56:56.720 The answer to this is it's the felt experience of one's own ethnic identity

00:57:02.920 in the context of the English people, right?

00:57:06.780 I don't...

00:57:08.100 Because the problem is, as soon as...

00:57:10.440 Because everyone else is taking an outside view of this, right?

00:57:13.060 And going, okay, well, it's cricket.

00:57:14.440 It's, you know, playing on the green.

00:57:16.500 It's tea and crumpets.

00:57:18.560 And they can pick all of these things apart.

00:57:20.400 But when you say no, it's the subjective felt experience of being English

00:57:24.460 that the English people themselves feel.

00:57:26.680 You don't have to justify or validate that in any other way.

00:57:30.320 And that's what this guy's trying to, like, from the external perspective,

00:57:36.160 zero in on.

00:57:37.380 But it's just easier to begin in the inside and say,

00:57:39.660 this is what it is, in the same way that the Scottish, the Welsh,

00:57:42.060 and the Irish, and every other identity.

00:57:43.440 That's what an ethnic identity is.

00:57:46.500 And there's just no further conversation to be had at that point.

00:57:49.580 No, I mean, agree with what you're saying there.

00:57:52.040 I was getting to it, yeah.

00:57:53.420 But it's just...

00:57:54.400 Because I watched everyone responding to this.

00:57:57.340 And I was just like, just say it's the way we feel about being English.

00:58:01.340 And they'll be like, okay, what do you mean?

00:58:02.260 What do you mean?

00:58:02.840 What do I mean?

00:58:03.620 You know, that's the same as anyone else.

00:58:05.920 And we don't need to justify it.

00:58:07.020 But that's also something that only someone who is ethnically English can do.

00:58:10.940 That's correct.

00:58:11.880 There we go.

00:58:12.440 And now, notice where you are there, I don't have to justify myself any further.

00:58:17.640 And you can't disprove me.

00:58:18.980 Yeah.

00:58:19.360 Right.

00:58:19.580 There's no standard by which you can disprove.

00:58:21.620 And it means that any English person who feels English can express their Englishness

00:58:25.520 in the way that they like.

00:58:26.660 And I'm taking all of this from the critical race theorists.

00:58:29.260 So, they set the standard.

00:58:32.180 If you're not suffering from an identity crisis, buy our magazine, Islander.

00:58:36.180 Because it will stave away this sort of thing.

00:58:38.800 Because it's got lots of good things in it.

00:58:40.800 And you can go on our website and you can find a link to our shop where you can buy both

00:58:44.520 the magazine and the corresponding merch, you know, mugs and t-shirts, for only a couple

00:58:51.300 of weeks now.

00:58:52.220 It will remain.

00:58:53.500 And then you'll miss it forever.

00:58:54.980 But this kind of subjective understanding of identity is a part of what Islander is about.

00:59:01.880 Like, the thing is, there's a through line through the whole thing that is essentially

00:59:08.120 ground ourselves in what we are and how we are.

00:59:11.280 And these things, therefore, flow from it.

00:59:13.780 We don't have to constantly be on the defensive.

00:59:15.800 And that's the kind of principle that underpins it.

00:59:17.660 It's basically what my poem is at the end.

00:59:20.140 Exactly.

00:59:21.100 Exactly.

00:59:21.580 That's exactly my point.

00:59:22.780 So, definitely go and get it.

00:59:23.920 It's honestly, we're so on the money with all of this stuff.

00:59:26.780 That's the thing.

00:59:27.700 We're so far ahead of the curve.

00:59:30.040 I love it. 1.00

00:59:30.560 So, let's annoy ourselves and look at some stupid people. 1.00

00:59:33.440 Oh, Adam Ray, my favourite. 1.00

00:59:35.200 Yeah.

00:59:35.540 So, Robert Jenrick thinks English identity is under threat.

00:59:38.920 Our language is Germanic.

00:59:40.080 Our numbers are Arabic and Indian.

00:59:42.060 Our patron saint is Palestinian.

00:59:43.980 Our royal family has German ancestry.

00:59:46.300 And the church originates from the Middle East.

00:59:48.420 I mean, apart from that.

00:59:50.020 Right.

00:59:50.180 So, this is exactly what I was talking about.

00:59:51.640 He's taken a load of external characteristics and said, well, there we go.

00:59:58.400 But it's, again, very much like the baking the cake.

01:00:01.420 Well, my ingredients all come from the cupboard.

01:00:03.300 The sugar came from there.

01:00:04.600 The water came from the tap.

01:00:05.660 And therefore, I don't have a cake.

01:00:06.880 It's like, no, I have a cake.

01:00:07.760 I'm about to eat it.

01:00:09.140 Just because I can identify the ingredients doesn't mean the thing doesn't exist.

01:00:11.840 And even then, the English identity is a felt experience by the people who hold it.

01:00:17.280 Not that I'd expect Adol Ray to understand that, because he's not English. 0.98

01:00:20.660 Well, it's similar.

01:00:21.720 Like, English identity is very similar, in my mind at least, to things like beauty or these sorts of metaphysical concepts.

01:00:30.740 I know it when I see it.

01:00:31.860 I don't need to have a checklist of criteria and run for it like a robot.

01:00:36.260 I can just tell.

01:00:38.220 No, that's true.

01:00:38.660 Because it's sort of baked into me.

01:00:40.520 Yes.

01:00:42.080 I have a question here, because it seems to me that the felt experience aspect isn't particularly important in it.

01:00:50.920 Because it seems to me that there are Greek people who don't feel Greek, if you ask them.

01:00:56.200 And there are English people that don't feel English, if you ask them.

01:00:59.840 But whenever I go to Greece, man, everyone's very Greek, even if they don't feel Greek.

01:01:04.840 Yes, exactly.

01:01:05.560 So, what I'm saying is that maybe the felt experience bit of it isn't the way to go about it.

01:01:13.040 So, I would view it more as a combination between biological and cultural.

01:01:18.020 It's not only one thing, as you're saying.

01:01:21.060 But when they say, what is English identity?

01:01:23.620 Well, that English identity is not what are all the characteristics of being English.

01:01:28.440 What it is, is what is the identity?

01:01:29.780 And the identity is how English people feel about themselves.

01:01:32.840 Like, in the same way as, like, what's Greek identity?

01:01:34.960 What's how Greeks feel about their Greekness, right?

01:01:37.660 And then you can add characteristics onto it.

01:01:40.040 But that's the sort of core foundation that can't actually be chipped away from.

01:01:44.800 Because you get no say in whether I feel English or not, you know.

01:01:48.360 There's a very uncontroversial way of explaining, actually, saying, well, a shark, biologically, is this thing.

01:01:55.120 This is the category.

01:01:56.540 Here's how it behaves.

01:01:58.080 Here's where it resides.

01:01:59.340 Here is how it differs from other animals that are similar to it.

01:02:02.720 Yeah.

01:02:03.620 You can do it outside of the human sphere as well.

01:02:07.220 But that's, I mean, like, if English identity, what do you mean our language is Germanic?

01:02:11.660 What's a Germanic language?

01:02:13.540 You know, oh, it's exactly the same problem.

01:02:16.360 He's just kicking the ball further down the road.

01:02:18.020 Okay, what's an Arab? 0.53

01:02:19.140 What's an Indian?

01:02:19.920 Many languages are Indo-European.

01:02:22.560 Doesn't mean that...

01:02:23.280 Well, that's the point.

01:02:24.300 Not only Indo-European. 0.51

01:02:26.580 He'd say, well, it's something from Germany.

01:02:28.320 It's like, oh, but that's an Indo-European language.

01:02:30.660 So it didn't come from Germany.

01:02:31.900 So we know it came from the Asian steppes.

01:02:33.340 And so we're just kicking...

01:02:34.540 All he's doing is kicking the ball further down the road in order to just get around the fact that you are an Englishman.

01:02:40.160 There's also another example whereby there was this MP.

01:02:45.700 Was his name Sion?

01:02:46.960 Simon or something like that.

01:02:48.020 I don't even want to pronounce it correctly.

01:02:49.760 But he denied that the English exist as an ethnicity.

01:02:54.300 And this is the route we are going down now, is that not only are they denigrating English culture, 1.00

01:02:59.860 they're also denying we are a distinct ethnicity, which is a bit absurd, really.

01:03:05.220 And there have already been attempts, what we've actually discussed before, trying to decolonize the term Anglo-Saxon, right?

01:03:14.780 And arguing that using the term Anglo-Saxon is somehow, I don't know, racist or nationalist or white supremacist in some way,

01:03:26.360 rather than using it as a descriptor of the cultural aspects.

01:03:29.660 It's not even ethnically true.

01:03:31.760 They have an ethnic imprint, the Anglo-Saxons, but it's not necessarily the majority for most Britonic people.

01:03:38.400 You know what's interesting is that we know the words they used to use to describe themselves.

01:03:42.940 Like Bede used the word Engelsin, I think it is, which means essentially English nation.

01:03:48.060 Yes, that's part of the reason I have a copy of Bede's Ecclesiastical History of the English People.

01:03:53.900 Written in the 8th century.

01:03:55.040 It was, yes.

01:03:55.760 Before England was even a United Kingdom.

01:03:58.840 That is how old it is.

01:04:01.240 It is, you know, over a thousand years old. 0.57

01:04:04.620 It's ridiculous to deny.

01:04:06.200 It is its own distinct ethnicity.

01:04:07.820 We have characterized ourselves as such for such a long time.

01:04:11.280 You know, I don't necessarily, you know, lean towards the Anglo-Saxon label,

01:04:15.700 although I identify with it in the cultural sense.

01:04:17.980 I see myself as more culturally Anglo-Saxon, but genetically I'm very Britonic.

01:04:23.620 That's fine.

01:04:24.520 There is sort of ability to...

01:04:26.500 The Anglo-Saxons are 30% Germanic and 70% Celtic.

01:04:31.360 So every Anglo... 1.00

01:04:32.700 By the sort of end of the Anglo-Saxon era, sort of by the 11th century.

01:04:36.980 But like, I meant modern, every modern.

01:04:39.160 Oh, yeah, yeah, sorry, yeah.

01:04:40.500 It's about 30% Anglo-Saxon.

01:04:41.760 Well, it stayed the same over that period of time as well.

01:04:43.700 Yeah, for a thousand years.

01:04:44.920 Exactly.

01:04:45.240 So the ethnogenesis of the English people by about the 11th century

01:04:50.160 was pretty much set in stone from that point.

01:04:53.460 Exactly.

01:04:54.040 It's been the same way ever since.

01:04:55.120 Because the Normans didn't really leave much of a genetic imprint,

01:04:58.040 a very slight one.

01:04:58.860 Yeah, yeah.

01:04:59.500 Same with the Romans. 0.93

01:05:01.180 In fact, there's not...

01:05:01.740 Romans left virtually none. 0.99

01:05:02.580 That's because we killed them all. 0.99

01:05:04.520 Well, they left. 1.00

01:05:05.440 They left and we genocided them a little bit.

01:05:07.460 We did a little bit of a genocide. 0.97

01:05:10.420 Budokka went through and killed all the Romans. 0.99

01:05:11.660 Oh, that wasn't genocide. 0.99

01:05:12.420 That was actually a really pathetic failed revolt. 0.95

01:05:15.820 She managed to destroy one town. 0.97

01:05:17.700 That wasn't genocide.

01:05:18.960 The Romans just left. 0.95

01:05:20.700 Well, they got the message, didn't they?

01:05:22.240 Well, no, no.

01:05:23.200 It's okay.

01:05:24.140 They were here for 400 years and the empire started collapsing

01:05:26.440 and they were like, look to your own defences.

01:05:28.120 And the British were like, no, you're not allowed to do that.

01:05:30.160 And they were like, yeah, we're off.

01:05:31.180 And they left. 0.83

01:05:31.820 I'm being silly anyway.

01:05:32.580 So, another example here. 0.67

01:05:35.000 Here's Michael Rosen.

01:05:36.660 Generic mentions history.

01:05:38.040 It follows that for English identity to be a thing, 0.66

01:05:41.940 there would need to be a distinct separate thing called English history

01:05:44.800 that's different from Scots history, Welsh history, Northern Irish history,

01:05:48.740 and different from but a part of British history.

01:05:51.260 But there is.

01:05:52.540 Have you read a book, Michael?

01:05:54.480 I know you like poetry.

01:05:57.420 I'm not going to get into theories of history here,

01:05:59.540 but that's obviously true.

01:06:01.100 You can obviously say that there is an English history.

01:06:03.960 But also, no country exists outside of external influence, does it?

01:06:08.880 No, of course not.

01:06:09.280 Of course, it's intertwined with Scottish history and Welsh history

01:06:13.660 because we're next door to each other.

01:06:14.840 The very nature of the question of history,

01:06:17.340 and this is sort of the Francis Fukuyama issue,

01:06:19.980 it means ethnic groups and events between them.

01:06:25.040 That's essentially what history means.

01:06:26.700 So, all of history is essentially ethnic history. 0.93

01:06:30.240 And this is what the end of history is meant to bring about,

01:06:32.460 where it's just the reign of the individuals.

01:06:34.500 So, there isn't the mass movements of national events anymore.

01:06:39.040 That's literally what the end of history is meant to mean.

01:06:41.220 So, all of history is ethnic history. 0.92

01:06:44.500 I don't disagree.

01:06:45.020 Am I wrong, Stelios?

01:06:46.040 I don't think so.

01:06:47.020 I don't think I'm wrong either.

01:06:48.280 It's a side of human affairs that is irreducible.

01:06:52.280 Yeah, exactly.

01:06:52.860 It's part of it.

01:06:53.460 So, like Michael Rosen here being like,

01:06:55.100 well, there'd have to be a separate thing called Scottish history.

01:06:56.820 There is Scottish history.

01:06:57.880 Of course there is.

01:06:58.760 I really don't understand this. 0.89

01:07:00.460 This is a silly argument, isn't it? 0.99

01:07:02.200 Very silly argument. 0.98

01:07:03.340 And Conor's also pointed out in one of his Twitter essays,

01:07:07.840 but I'm going to go to the screenshot here.

01:07:10.200 David Lammy, if anyone needs to integrate, it's the far right,

01:07:13.420 which obviously he's on about the native English.

01:07:17.400 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:07:18.460 More than anyone.

01:07:19.480 The rights were only in England.

01:07:20.360 And they're trying to frame it as if the native English needs to integrate 0.56

01:07:25.500 with our schemes, basically, which is ridiculous.

01:07:29.140 No, we don't. 0.62

01:07:29.820 It's our country.

01:07:30.920 You need to integrate with us, actually, mate.

01:07:32.800 And a multiculturalist who is against integration is saying that some people have to integrate.

01:07:38.060 Yes.

01:07:38.360 Just double standards.

01:07:39.760 Don't want to rail the segment.

01:07:41.240 And also, oh, sorry.

01:07:42.560 Sorry, no.

01:07:43.000 Far right just means English in this context.

01:07:44.780 It does.

01:07:46.360 If anybody needs to integrate, it's the English. 0.99

01:07:48.220 It makes far more sense.

01:07:49.320 It does, doesn't it?

01:07:50.220 Far right, whatever that is.

01:07:51.680 Rioters long for a Britain that never existed, says Trevor Phillips as well.

01:07:55.360 It did exist.

01:07:56.520 I lived through it.

01:07:57.480 Yeah, it still does, as long as I'm still alive.

01:07:59.580 As long as the English people are still on this island, you know, England still exists, 1.00

01:08:04.240 although he's on about Britain.

01:08:05.320 But what he means is England, obviously, because it's not Scotland and Wales that he's complaining

01:08:10.360 about, is it?

01:08:11.200 Or Northern Ireland.

01:08:11.900 But anyway, here's another one.

01:08:16.220 It's quite hard for 84% of the population to be the remainder.

01:08:20.420 One reason why there is no distinct English-British-slash-British identity, and why Generic could not answer,

01:08:26.720 is the average British person is English.

01:08:28.820 That's just math.

01:08:29.600 That's a great point.

01:08:30.360 This argument is basically just saying that English culture is so dominant that it's taken

01:08:35.980 over the whole idea of being British in the first place, which is a reasonable point.

01:08:44.320 He then goes on to be annoying because he's a former Guardian writer.

01:08:47.840 Does he?

01:08:48.540 Yeah.

01:08:49.260 So I believe in his replies, it's a question of shared beliefs, histories, and traditions,

01:08:54.520 and it's frankly just impossible for the huge country in the metaphorical and literal

01:08:58.240 centre of the country that produced Shakespeare, the Beatles, and hosts.

01:09:01.480 I understand the argument he's making.

01:09:02.720 That's totally true.

01:09:03.560 He's right about this.

01:09:04.700 About the actual cultural aspect.

01:09:06.540 And lots of sort of R people went after him for this, and I thought it was one of the 1.00

01:09:10.560 least egregious examples.

01:09:12.360 But he's missing out the ethnic component.

01:09:14.580 However, the cultural stuff, it seems to be correct that, yes, because England is the

01:09:19.120 bigger country, its culture has infringed, of course, infringed on that of Wales and Scotland.

01:09:26.900 And we're noticing the same in sort of reverse with America and its relation with the British

01:09:31.540 Isles as well.

01:09:32.600 And the American culture, because it's a larger country, yeah, is influencing our way 0.89

01:09:38.540 of life to the point where people are using Americanisms in our daily life that infuriates

01:09:44.780 me personally.

01:09:45.700 I mean, if you're American, that's perfectly fine.

01:09:47.280 I'm not having a go at you. 0.99

01:09:48.260 But if you're British, you should be ashamed of yourself. 1.00

01:09:50.100 And this is actually quite a commonly held view, because we see ourselves as distinct,

01:09:56.460 because we've got to have pride in who we are.

01:09:59.880 And here's another one as well.

01:10:02.760 And this is, I believe, who was this again?

01:10:05.800 Raki Basan arguing that,

01:10:08.340 Yes, there is, because the newcomers are the ones that are undermining it in the first place. 1.00

01:10:22.300 Well, hang on.

01:10:22.920 It depends on the paradigm that you're operating under.

01:10:26.020 So if you're operating under what I'm just going to call the sort of tribal English paradigm,

01:10:30.300 where, okay, a foreigner can come in and, you know, join the tribe, come and sit at the, 0.91

01:10:35.300 engage in the rituals, marry, and have descendants.

01:10:38.500 That's totally fine.

01:10:39.980 If you're going to come to the pubs with us, then people will happily accept you.

01:10:43.480 And there's not a problem, because English culture is the dominant paradigm,

01:10:46.060 and the English people, of course, the dominant people in the culture.

01:10:50.000 But if you have a multicultural country, like Stelios was pointing out,

01:10:55.040 I mean, like, like Stelios being here right now, right?

01:10:57.980 Like, you know, he's, there's no contradiction with him being Greek,

01:11:01.520 and being like, yeah, the English need to set their identity up and sort it out.

01:11:04.480 I'd be the same if I was in Greece, you know, I'd be, you know, a massive Greek patriot.

01:11:08.560 Well, it angers me when other European countries have this done to them as well.

01:11:11.980 Yeah, me too. I hate it. And just any other country, really.

01:11:14.760 But there's no contradiction there.

01:11:16.580 It's whether you're setting up a colony of your own culture,

01:11:19.620 or you're integrating and joining into the culture that you want, that you've come into.

01:11:23.960 And so in the multicultural paradigm, they're like, no, colonies.

01:11:27.340 It's like, okay, well, that's bad, and that has to stop.

01:11:29.800 So Rakeem here, I do agree with him. I think he's correct.

01:11:32.600 Okay.

01:11:34.080 So I tweeted out this in response to some of this stuff,

01:11:38.220 just emphasizing the genetic point that you can't convert and become English.

01:11:44.200 You are born into it. It's not a passport or a set of values.

01:11:47.220 You should see the number of leftists saying, 1.00

01:11:50.280 this is made up nonsense, scientific revisionism, ahistoric, ignorant, 0.99

01:11:56.520 I haven't read any history, I don't know anything about genetics, 0.95

01:11:59.120 despite, you know, actually reading a ton of genetic research.

01:12:03.560 But it's definitionally true that your ethnic identity is inherited.

01:12:08.300 Even if you Google this, Google will agree with you.

01:12:12.000 Well, obviously.

01:12:12.900 Yeah.

01:12:13.100 So even Google hasn't caught up with this new delusion

01:12:17.480 that everyone's going to pretend is just normal

01:12:20.060 and received wisdom for thousands of years.

01:12:23.280 But even the BBC in 2016 frames it in these terms.

01:12:27.160 English DNA, one-third Anglo-Saxon.

01:12:30.480 So English as the identity, DNA, 0.51

01:12:35.000 and they're talking about the Anglo-Saxons as being a part of it.

01:12:37.700 This is perfectly ordinary, perfectly normal.

01:12:40.100 Completely comprehensible.

01:12:41.060 Yes, of course.

01:12:43.120 And I think Survive the Jive did a very good video on this,

01:12:46.900 talking about Englishness.

01:12:48.620 One thing that he points out,

01:12:49.820 which I think is particularly important,

01:12:51.640 and I encourage people to watch the video,

01:12:53.900 is that there was a man buried in a pagan Germanic burial mound

01:12:57.320 who had entirely Brythonic ancestry,

01:13:00.260 probably very similar to mine.

01:13:02.180 Implies that the Britons and the Anglo-Saxons 0.69

01:13:04.740 integrated to the point where the Britonic people

01:13:07.200 could achieve high status in Anglo-Saxon society.

01:13:10.940 And so it makes sense to see them as compatible groups

01:13:14.180 because they had become one, more or less.

01:13:18.700 Well, I mean, he undoubtedly married an Anglo-Saxon woman.

01:13:22.360 He would have literally married into the tribe.

01:13:25.800 Historically, this is always the way that tribes dealt with this,

01:13:29.140 is you would literally take wives and husbands from the other tribe

01:13:31.900 to make sure that there was no, like, split between them.

01:13:37.080 And it was a conscious thing as well.

01:13:39.380 I can't remember which tribe it was now.

01:13:41.200 Taking hostages, isn't it?

01:13:43.020 In a way, yeah.

01:13:44.220 In a weird sort of way, yeah.

01:13:46.340 But there was a particular event.

01:13:48.020 I can't remember where I was reading about it,

01:13:49.460 but it was only the first century or something.

01:13:51.460 But this Germanic and Celtic tribe were like,

01:13:53.500 okay, we're just going to join up.

01:13:54.520 And so literally every single one of them

01:13:56.420 chose a husband or wife from the other tribe, 0.91

01:13:58.600 and that was it.

01:13:59.080 And then they changed the name,

01:14:00.280 or they had another name for the tribe,

01:14:02.660 and that was it.

01:14:03.080 And it's just like, that's just the way it worked.

01:14:05.320 But it also suggests that this mix

01:14:09.100 has remained relatively consistent as well.

01:14:11.940 Because, of course, let's not forget that

01:14:13.780 the name of Wales means foreigner in Anglo-Saxon.

01:14:17.920 And that's where the Britons who didn't integrate fled to.

01:14:21.500 Yes.

01:14:22.320 And it's also why...

01:14:23.760 And Brittany as well, actually.

01:14:24.680 That's true, yeah.

01:14:25.600 That's also why my ancestry from Devon and Southern Scotland

01:14:29.880 is very much not Anglo-Saxon,

01:14:32.900 and why I look like I do, and not more white.

01:14:37.580 But anyway, let's move on to some of the other stuff.

01:14:39.900 So why DNA haplogroups are very useful,

01:14:42.540 because it also reinforces this point

01:14:45.540 that in the sort of grand scheme of things,

01:14:50.020 people from Western Europe,

01:14:51.660 which includes Germany and Northern Germany,

01:14:53.660 where a lot of the Anglo-Saxons come from,

01:14:55.320 are quite related to the people in the British Isles anyway.

01:14:59.540 You know, they're a similar generation of people,

01:15:02.960 if you know what I mean.

01:15:03.700 Man, you could map that RU-106

01:15:06.480 to the Protestant Revolution, couldn't you?

01:15:08.800 You could, yeah.

01:15:09.760 That is really...

01:15:10.840 That's basically a map of Protestantism.

01:15:13.280 It is.

01:15:14.180 Very interesting.

01:15:14.800 It's amazing how much genetics actually determine national borders.

01:15:19.120 Like, you can see the difference between Northern and Southern Italy there.

01:15:22.580 You can see Western and Eastern Europe.

01:15:25.280 You can see the Balkans as distinct.

01:15:27.980 All of these things that have entered into our language

01:15:31.840 actually have a biological basis.

01:15:34.700 How are Balkans proto-Europeans?

01:15:38.020 I'm not...

01:15:38.960 That's very interesting.

01:15:40.140 Don't pay too much attention to those

01:15:42.280 because there's a better one here

01:15:44.200 which shows you the genetic national makeup of Y-DNA haploid groups.

01:15:48.460 And you can see the pie, right?

01:15:50.220 You used the cake analogy earlier.

01:15:52.740 You can also use a pie one

01:15:54.340 where each nationality has a unique sort of blend.

01:15:57.880 Of course, these are averaged amongst the people,

01:15:59.860 but there aren't any countries here

01:16:02.360 that look incredibly similar to the point where you think,

01:16:06.400 hmm, should they just merge and become one?

01:16:08.960 They all seem distinct enough, don't they?

01:16:10.460 Scotland and England look pretty bloody similar, don't they?

01:16:12.620 They are quite similar, but then again,

01:16:15.080 you know, that's because a lot of it is Brutonic ancestry, isn't it?

01:16:21.320 And sure, there was some variants there,

01:16:23.960 but there's still a lot of shared heritage as well.

01:16:26.940 And so there's less difference.

01:16:28.000 That's why we're a union,

01:16:29.180 and that's pretty unique in Europe

01:16:31.140 because we are so similar.

01:16:32.700 There's not much in it, actually.

01:16:33.740 I expected there to be more genetic difference.

01:16:36.100 But yes, all of a sudden,

01:16:38.280 the nation-states of Europe make sense

01:16:40.720 if you start looking at it from a genetic level.

01:16:43.700 And these ethnic groups are tangible and real,

01:16:46.500 and they actually inform very, very real ways

01:16:49.360 in which humans view each other

01:16:50.860 because genetics, I would argue,

01:16:52.940 is the determining factor in how,

01:16:55.660 as in if you had to rank order them all,

01:16:57.800 it is the determining factor of how people treat each other

01:17:00.580 because, as we will see in a minute...

01:17:03.740 Before we move on, I'm surprised at the distinction

01:17:06.520 between Spain and Portugal there.

01:17:08.540 Well, yeah, I think that you look at just purely

01:17:13.020 the size of the Spanish nation and the size of Portugal,

01:17:16.280 other than, you know, the savvy alliance

01:17:18.280 that Portugal made with us.

01:17:19.460 Well done for that.

01:17:20.920 You would think that Spain would have conquered Portugal

01:17:23.240 at some point because...

01:17:24.400 Well, they did have unions of crowns and stuff like that.

01:17:26.940 Of course.

01:17:28.360 Anyway, sorry.

01:17:29.140 But they've remained as distinct, haven't they,

01:17:31.020 because of this genetically distinct...

01:17:33.400 Populations.

01:17:34.180 Exactly.

01:17:34.540 The identity is inherited through the generations.

01:17:38.240 It's just how it works.

01:17:39.760 And so you can even get it in this.

01:17:41.800 So this is a research paper,

01:17:43.900 and it's talking about racial categorisation of faces,

01:17:48.940 and pretty much participants were able to categorise faces

01:17:51.800 according to the nationality with a certain degree of accuracy.

01:17:54.940 So you could actually look at someone and say,

01:17:57.420 they're from this country,

01:17:59.100 and it's more accurate than chance.

01:18:01.000 I can do that.

01:18:01.780 I know, yeah, it's quite easy,

01:18:03.100 which suggests that there is an ethnic component

01:18:05.460 because you can look at someone and say,

01:18:07.720 they're from this place.

01:18:08.840 I can pick out the German out of a line-up. 1.00

01:18:10.680 Oh, quite easily, yeah.

01:18:11.500 Yeah, but I'm not even joking.

01:18:12.580 You don't even need to see their socks and sandals,

01:18:14.480 are you?

01:18:14.540 Yeah, I know.

01:18:15.120 I can literally do it by face.

01:18:16.680 So they've also found that categorisation occurs quickly

01:18:20.220 and subconsciously,

01:18:21.880 highlighting how innate this is to human nature.

01:18:24.520 This is our ability to recognise

01:18:26.020 who is part of our tribe and who is not.

01:18:28.720 And this is part of human nature.

01:18:31.240 And if you deny the ethnic component to people's identity,

01:18:35.140 you deny something that's so integral

01:18:37.380 to how human beings function

01:18:39.060 that you sort of castrate our ability to function normally.

01:18:44.440 And it's...

01:18:45.200 But that's what they're trying to do, isn't it?

01:18:46.500 That's true, yes, of course.

01:18:48.020 And this is such a powerful effect

01:18:49.800 that even though there is an own race bias

01:18:52.900 in facial perception,

01:18:55.040 whereby unfamiliar faces from other races

01:18:57.240 are usually remembered more poorly

01:18:58.720 than your own race's faces.

01:19:00.860 And even in multicultural society 0.68

01:19:03.380 or multiracial societies,

01:19:05.460 this persists,

01:19:06.700 which suggests that this is biological.

01:19:09.020 I can't believe nature isn't liberal.

01:19:10.820 I know.

01:19:11.740 I can't believe it.

01:19:13.700 So there's also this as well.

01:19:17.060 So a new theory of attraction and liking

01:19:19.340 based on kin selection

01:19:20.400 suggests that people detect genetic similarity in others

01:19:23.380 in order to give preferential treatment

01:19:25.540 to those who are more similar to themselves.

01:19:27.820 And this is 100% true, in my opinion.

01:19:30.820 All of the literature

01:19:31.860 on how human beings interact with genes,

01:19:35.360 people give preferential treatment

01:19:36.980 to people who look like them.

01:19:38.940 Unless they're liberals.

01:19:40.260 Yes.

01:19:40.780 In which case they have an outgroup preference.

01:19:43.000 I think this applies to the whole animal kingdom

01:19:46.880 because they say that when it comes to pets,

01:19:49.980 a lot of people have pets

01:19:52.140 that sort of resembles them.

01:19:53.960 So for instance,

01:19:54.520 if some people are more like bulldog-ish,

01:19:57.680 they're likely to have bulldog.

01:19:59.380 If they have other features,

01:20:01.380 they say that it plays a lot of great role.

01:20:04.140 That's very true, yeah.

01:20:05.140 And it's also worth mentioning as well.

01:20:06.580 There's this sort of colloquial anecdote

01:20:08.300 whereby we say that couples

01:20:10.640 that kind of look like one another,

01:20:12.360 they could potentially be cousins

01:20:13.720 or brother or sister.

01:20:14.920 I know I'm from Devon.

01:20:15.920 Yes.

01:20:17.720 But they stay together longer

01:20:19.720 and it's perhaps because

01:20:21.340 they're more genetically compatible

01:20:22.820 and there's a certain aspect

01:20:24.460 of genetic compatibility.

01:20:25.700 It's why people give primarily

01:20:27.560 the most preferential treatment

01:20:29.820 to their family,

01:20:31.040 then to their, you know,

01:20:33.160 their more distant family,

01:20:34.600 then to their friends,

01:20:35.540 then to their community,

01:20:36.540 then to their nation.

01:20:38.200 There's this sort of onion of layers

01:20:40.520 moving out here

01:20:41.780 and that is just purely based

01:20:43.440 on genetic proximity.

01:20:44.520 And this paper,

01:20:45.960 which is Cambridge University Press,

01:20:48.120 it's not controversial,

01:20:50.360 lists a whole host of reasons here

01:20:52.380 and evidence that supports this.

01:20:56.320 And this, I think,

01:20:57.300 is why we should care about this sort of thing,

01:20:59.580 why we should be a bit more ethnocentric,

01:21:01.820 because people will treat us better

01:21:04.360 if they're more genetically proximate to us.

01:21:07.260 Unless they're leftists.

01:21:07.920 Unless they're leftists 0.99

01:21:09.140 who should be crushed politically.

01:21:13.520 And so, if we want to be treated fairly,

01:21:17.180 treated in a way in which

01:21:19.320 is in keeping with our culture,

01:21:21.080 there has to be consideration of genetics

01:21:22.980 because this informs human behaviour,

01:21:25.380 whether we like it or not.

01:21:26.380 You can't really overcome it

01:21:27.760 unless you become 0.98

01:21:28.720 a weird, maladapted leftist. 0.98

01:21:30.800 And who wants that? 0.98

01:21:31.720 You know, you can be...

01:21:32.800 Keir Starmer.

01:21:33.560 Keir Starmer or a childless cat lady 0.80

01:21:35.360 or a spiteful leftist 0.99

01:21:36.980 that makes himself look ugly 0.99

01:21:38.200 and lives in London 0.95

01:21:38.980 and has no property

01:21:40.420 because they're a failure.

01:21:41.800 I mean, this is not a life

01:21:43.200 that you want to pursue.

01:21:44.760 However, I think that the notion

01:21:46.800 that English is somehow 1.00

01:21:48.960 this amorphous thing,

01:21:51.320 it's just a set of values,

01:21:52.580 it's just a passport,

01:21:54.080 which many immigrants

01:21:55.320 when quizzed on the street will say...

01:21:57.880 Ironically, there's no English passport.

01:21:59.840 No, there's not.

01:22:00.560 There's only a British one. 0.96

01:22:01.400 It's only an ethnic group.

01:22:02.600 There's no English state.

01:22:04.320 So, yes, I wanted to highlight

01:22:06.200 the importance of recognising

01:22:08.440 being English as an ethnicity

01:22:11.080 and how it informs our nature.

01:22:15.660 There we go.

01:22:17.320 Okay, we've got...

01:22:18.500 That's a random name says,

01:22:19.740 I was told by non-whites in Canada

01:22:21.060 that I wasn't white

01:22:21.880 because I had a culture

01:22:23.480 as a Bulgarian.

01:22:25.320 I don't realise that white culture 1.00

01:22:26.520 is all around them.

01:22:27.260 Order, justice, liberty, etc. 1.00

01:22:28.680 Ignorant imbeciles. 1.00

01:22:31.000 Interesting. 1.00

01:22:32.000 I agree.

01:22:32.700 It's very much about conceptions

01:22:34.300 rather than about the reality.

01:22:36.320 That's the thing.

01:22:37.340 Yeah, perception informs a lot of it.

01:22:38.900 I think that our perception

01:22:40.440 is downstream of how we're

01:22:43.080 sort of genetically programmed

01:22:44.500 to think about these things

01:22:45.620 because they're very powerful forces.

01:22:47.580 It's not just that.

01:22:48.420 Like, oh, you're not white, 1.00

01:22:50.460 which is an abstract universal category.

01:22:53.240 You're a Bulgarian,

01:22:54.140 which is actually quite a concrete thing.

01:22:55.720 There is a place called Bulgaria.

01:22:57.140 It's also an ethnicity.

01:22:58.300 Exactly.

01:22:58.760 It's an ethnic group

01:22:59.420 and it's a personal identity

01:23:01.400 rather than, like,

01:23:02.640 an abstract description.

01:23:04.200 So you've come out

01:23:05.360 with a category of white

01:23:06.120 by being temporalised

01:23:07.980 as a Bulgarian

01:23:09.040 rather than a universal,

01:23:10.480 eternal white,

01:23:11.480 which is one of the reasons 0.83

01:23:12.960 I hate using the term white.

01:23:14.060 I always use English.

01:23:15.260 Yeah, you've got to be

01:23:16.360 more specific than that anyway. 0.75

01:23:17.520 I think white is a very poor category 0.98

01:23:19.780 because it could also mean

01:23:20.700 that Ainu in northern Japan.

01:23:23.160 But, yeah, yeah, exactly.

01:23:25.280 But there's...

01:23:26.360 When you say white, 0.58

01:23:27.480 what you've done is

01:23:28.160 de-centre it from its context.

01:23:30.440 Whereas if you say English,

01:23:31.760 you attach yourself

01:23:33.920 to a continuum

01:23:34.680 that travels through time and space

01:23:36.620 and there's a lot to it.

01:23:37.800 Whereas white is a very thin concept.

01:23:39.680 I think usually people

01:23:40.580 either mean, like, Europe

01:23:41.700 or Anglosphere.

01:23:42.520 Yeah, in America,

01:23:43.160 they really mean English.

01:23:45.340 Mm-hmm.

01:23:45.600 I don't know when they say white

01:23:46.540 they mean English.

01:23:51.100 I love these videos.

01:23:55.440 He started life in the 1800s

01:23:56.760 as a rail...

01:23:57.240 Had a bit of an audition.

01:24:01.560 Another of my industrial heroes

01:24:02.580 is Walter Chrysler.

01:24:03.800 He started life in the 1800s

01:24:05.080 as a railroad mechanic.

01:24:06.120 Ultimately, he worked his way

01:24:07.000 over to Alco.

01:24:07.880 Fascinated with the new invention

01:24:08.940 of the automobile,

01:24:09.760 he oversaw Alco's failed bid

01:24:11.200 to get into the automobile business.

01:24:12.340 This was enough to get the attention

01:24:13.400 of General Motors Durant,

01:24:14.660 who poached Chrysler

01:24:15.560 with the highest salary

01:24:16.600 of anyone in the world

01:24:17.600 to oversee the Buick.

01:24:18.440 However, Chrysler got sick

01:24:19.600 of the rule of bankers

01:24:20.600 at General Motors

01:24:21.280 starting the Chrysler Corporation

01:24:22.720 in 1926.

01:24:23.940 However, his final project

01:24:25.060 was the eponymous Chrysler Building,

01:24:26.580 a personal project

01:24:27.460 he paid for out of pocket

01:24:28.760 so that, quote,

01:24:29.420 my children might have something

01:24:30.600 to take care of when I die.

01:24:31.980 They, of course,

01:24:32.540 sold it immediately after his death.

01:24:34.120 A prescient metaphor

01:24:35.060 for modern civilization.

01:24:36.280 I'd like more things

01:24:39.160 of you building things, please.

01:24:40.420 I love those videos.

01:24:41.200 I enjoyed the story as well.

01:24:43.780 That was really interesting.

01:24:44.600 I didn't know about that.

01:24:45.480 Of course they sold it.

01:24:48.200 There's atrazine

01:24:49.320 throughout our water supply.

01:24:50.820 If you, in a lab,

01:24:52.160 put atrazine in a tank

01:24:54.820 full of frogs,

01:24:55.880 it will feminize 0.99

01:24:57.000 every frog in there. 0.61

01:24:58.940 I don't like them

01:24:59.900 putting chemicals in the water 0.99

01:25:01.080 that turn the friggin' frogs gay! 0.98

01:25:03.240 And 10% of the pale frogs 0.99

01:25:05.700 will turn into

01:25:07.140 fully viable females

01:25:08.820 able to produce

01:25:09.900 viable eggs.

01:25:11.760 If it's doing that to frogs,

01:25:13.780 there's a lot of other evidence

01:25:15.200 that it's doing it

01:25:16.100 to human beings as well.

01:25:19.680 AHHHHH!

01:25:21.660 Just to be clear,

01:25:22.620 Alex Jones was completely correct.

01:25:24.060 Oh yeah,

01:25:24.520 I've covered this before.

01:25:26.020 Like, loads of things

01:25:27.320 Alex Jones has said

01:25:28.200 have actually turned out

01:25:29.200 to be true.

01:25:29.860 He just says them

01:25:30.440 in the most insane way.

01:25:31.880 So people assume,

01:25:32.740 well, that was bonkers.

01:25:33.980 Someone described,

01:25:34.900 I can't remember who it was,

01:25:36.680 RFK having a

01:25:38.140 Darth Vader-like voice.

01:25:40.120 I can't remember who it was,

01:25:41.160 but it gives him

01:25:43.320 presence in a weird

01:25:44.380 sort of way.

01:25:45.100 Although I do want to

01:25:45.980 give him a throat sweet 0.95

01:25:46.820 and help him out,

01:25:48.360 but good to see

01:25:49.480 he's right on that.

01:25:51.640 I wonder what kind of

01:25:52.640 sausages we're even

01:25:53.400 talking about here.

01:25:54.300 I hope they're not

01:25:55.080 pork sausages.

01:25:57.080 Sorry, Josh.

01:25:58.760 They were indeed

01:25:59.880 pork sausages.

01:26:00.580 Keir Starmer,

01:26:02.820 well, he's got some

01:26:03.980 things to answer for.

01:26:06.700 Okay, we've got some

01:26:07.900 written comments,

01:26:08.580 I believe.

01:26:09.220 I don't know how much time.

01:26:10.460 We don't.

01:26:11.000 We've got four minutes.

01:26:12.160 Sophie says,

01:26:12.920 many of you may die,

01:26:13.740 but that's a sacrifice

01:26:14.360 I'm willing to make.

01:26:15.080 Keir Starmer,

01:26:15.640 probably.

01:26:16.000 No, definitely.

01:26:16.960 That's definitely his opinion.

01:26:19.120 Derek says,

01:26:19.960 I think being governed

01:26:20.620 by toddlers is the best

01:26:21.600 description for what's happening.

01:26:22.980 No, they're genuinely 1.00

01:26:24.420 ideological morons. 1.00

01:26:25.920 Genuinely. 1.00

01:26:26.280 Jimbo says,

01:26:29.140 David Lammy might

01:26:29.840 genuinely have

01:26:30.560 pedigree chum

01:26:32.840 between his ears.

01:26:33.960 Just going to show

01:26:34.500 how far you can fall

01:26:35.420 upwards by being

01:26:36.080 a social justice grifter.

01:26:37.580 Now he's woke

01:26:38.180 scolding Putin

01:26:39.060 on the world stage.

01:26:40.520 Clearly we've got

01:26:41.040 our best man on the job.

01:26:41.900 It's like,

01:26:42.100 yeah,

01:26:42.360 it's so embarrassing.

01:26:45.020 It's so absolutely

01:26:46.280 embarrassing 1.00

01:26:46.860 to have these morons. 1.00

01:26:48.460 And the thing is, 1.00

01:26:48.760 this is what the left

01:26:49.320 used to say about

01:26:49.820 Trump and Boris.

01:26:51.220 And I was like,

01:26:51.840 no, they seem fine to me,

01:26:53.240 but obviously they've

01:26:53.960 just got a different

01:26:54.480 perspective on it.

01:26:55.140 And they're like,

01:26:55.480 oh my God,

01:26:55.820 they're not going along

01:26:56.420 with the managerial order.

01:26:57.360 How embarrassing.

01:26:58.320 Well, that Boris was.

01:26:59.980 It's like,

01:27:00.660 no, this is embarrassing.

01:27:02.000 Looking genuinely

01:27:02.740 incompetent is embarrassing.

01:27:06.580 Theo says,

01:27:07.320 some complained

01:27:08.120 that we put thousands

01:27:08.740 in prison.

01:27:09.400 In reality,

01:27:09.880 we sent millions free.

01:27:11.200 Honestly,

01:27:11.640 just brilliant from Buckele.

01:27:12.900 Yeah, yeah,

01:27:13.220 that's how he ended

01:27:13.980 his speech, I think.

01:27:15.180 It's so good.

01:27:16.820 It's so, so good.

01:27:19.060 Lord Pridwin says,

01:27:20.420 I'd argue it's the spirit

01:27:21.440 of the law

01:27:21.860 that's been abandoned

01:27:22.400 at the rule of law.

01:27:23.840 Yeah, that's a good

01:27:24.500 distinction.

01:27:25.140 Actually,

01:27:25.780 the spirit of the law.

01:27:26.400 I said it towards

01:27:28.040 the end of the segment.

01:27:29.180 It's the spirit of the law

01:27:30.460 because if you have

01:27:31.200 insane laws,

01:27:32.600 it doesn't matter.

01:27:35.660 George says,

01:27:36.560 I'm generally

01:27:37.020 against cloning

01:27:38.120 as a practice,

01:27:39.120 but I can make

01:27:39.540 an exception for

01:27:40.160 Millet and Buckele.

01:27:41.220 Yeah, it'd be so amazing

01:27:42.480 if we had these guys

01:27:43.340 in charge,

01:27:43.840 wouldn't it?

01:27:44.520 It would actually be

01:27:45.340 good.

01:27:47.440 Charles says,

01:27:51.200 Carl, I absolutely

01:27:52.280 love when you get

01:27:52.800 talking about

01:27:53.160 Kira and the

01:27:53.500 Labour Party.

01:27:54.400 It's hilarious

01:27:54.880 how you lay out

01:27:55.380 what happened.

01:27:55.960 Without any anger

01:27:56.580 or irritation,

01:27:57.140 it just sets itself

01:27:57.840 up nicely for

01:27:58.680 ridicule.

01:27:59.480 Well, they're just

01:28:01.500 so obviously dense.

01:28:03.820 Like, I love

01:28:05.220 Keir Starmer

01:28:05.840 giving the game away

01:28:06.640 about the garden

01:28:07.260 parties with Sky

01:28:08.240 and her face

01:28:09.280 where she's like,

01:28:10.020 don't say that.

01:28:11.500 You know,

01:28:11.680 it's just like, 1.00

01:28:12.660 you fucking idiot. 1.00

01:28:13.620 You just, 1.00

01:28:14.260 you're absolutely 1.00

01:28:14.920 moron. 1.00

01:28:15.440 When a Sky journalist 1.00

01:28:16.380 thinks you're an idiot 1.00

01:28:17.260 for saying anything. 1.00

01:28:17.660 Yeah, she's just like,

01:28:18.520 Ixnate on the garden

01:28:19.760 party, eh?

01:28:21.040 You know,

01:28:21.440 it's gold.

01:28:24.080 Someone online says,

01:28:25.460 you can't deny

01:28:26.060 the ink to exist.

01:28:26.840 They can and will.

01:28:28.660 Will they,

01:28:29.280 Josh?

01:28:29.860 They can try.

01:28:31.880 And Jimbo says,

01:28:32.920 as a wise man once

01:28:34.000 said,

01:28:34.700 the only time anyone

01:28:35.600 who knows who the

01:28:36.280 English are is when

01:28:37.760 someone is advocating

01:28:38.880 for revenge against

01:28:39.900 them.

01:28:40.560 Anyone can be English

01:28:41.340 but diversity can

01:28:42.020 never be lumped in

01:28:42.580 with bad English.

01:28:43.340 They're good English.

01:28:44.200 Very exclusive.

01:28:45.220 You know,

01:28:45.640 what's interesting is

01:28:46.200 in this country we

01:28:46.980 don't have like the

01:28:47.720 new English.

01:28:48.580 In Germany and

01:28:49.240 Sweden they have 0.89

01:28:49.640 like the new

01:28:50.000 Swedes and new

01:28:50.500 Germans.

01:28:50.860 They're trying to

01:28:51.100 integrate them into

01:28:51.720 the national identity

01:28:53.040 but they don't do

01:28:53.860 that here.

01:28:54.140 They're British.

01:28:54.780 They're British

01:28:55.260 Angolans. 0.62

01:28:56.040 They're British,

01:28:56.640 you know,

01:28:57.080 wherevers.

01:28:57.940 British Pakistanis.

01:28:58.760 They never call

01:28:59.820 themselves English

01:29:00.520 in this country.

01:29:01.340 Colonials almost,

01:29:02.360 isn't it?

01:29:02.740 It's a similar sort

01:29:03.800 of ethos,

01:29:05.360 isn't it?

01:29:05.880 So in a way I think

01:29:06.720 we actually have the

01:29:07.280 advantage on many

01:29:08.240 of the European

01:29:08.900 states because they

01:29:11.120 never say,

01:29:11.780 oh we're English

01:29:12.300 because they don't

01:29:13.820 want to be English,

01:29:14.400 they don't like

01:29:14.780 English.

01:29:15.500 But that means

01:29:16.080 it's a bit of

01:29:17.200 free real estate

01:29:17.940 for us to say,

01:29:19.000 no we're the

01:29:19.400 English.

01:29:19.780 Well it was always

01:29:20.280 ours to begin with.

01:29:21.020 Sure, sure.

01:29:21.460 Just reclaim it.

01:29:22.340 Sure, but they're

01:29:22.780 very manipulative, 0.79

01:29:25.500 slimy.

01:29:26.560 But they're not

01:29:27.200 even trying to take

01:29:28.240 the English identity

01:29:28.860 and any attempts

01:29:29.600 they've made have

01:29:29.980 been really weak.

01:29:31.120 So actually we

01:29:31.880 should come out

01:29:32.260 very boldly and

01:29:33.080 say no,

01:29:33.460 the English identity

01:29:34.200 is the property

01:29:34.960 of the English

01:29:35.360 people who are

01:29:36.320 the continuum

01:29:36.860 going all the way

01:29:37.660 back to Bede

01:29:38.460 and beyond

01:29:39.800 and this is ours

01:29:41.320 and you can't have

01:29:41.980 it.

01:29:42.160 We should be very

01:29:42.520 aggressive about it.

01:29:44.020 Absolutely.

01:29:45.780 Okay, well it looks

01:29:46.860 like we're out of

01:29:47.480 time.

01:29:48.340 So thank you very

01:29:49.260 much for watching.

01:29:49.900 I believe it's

01:29:50.320 Common Sense Crusade

01:29:51.340 after this

01:29:51.960 and of course

01:29:52.780 tune in

01:29:53.240 same time

01:29:53.940 one o'clock

01:29:54.700 UK time

01:29:55.560 tomorrow.

01:29:56.780 Thank you for

01:29:57.240 watching and

01:29:57.860 goodbye.

01:29:58.100 Bye.

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