The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1010

00:00:00.000 hello and welcome to the podcast of the islander shillers have you bought islander yet you really

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00:00:49.760 at carl he's far more interesting than i am and i'm harry your host joined today by bow

00:00:54.420 and special guest tim how you doing yeah lovely being here where can where can people find you

00:01:01.180 oh well on my stuff i'll fast hit performance youtube that kind of thing oh yep yep fantastic

00:01:06.120 and today we're going to be talking about labor's evil plot to ban fun because they really do hate

00:01:12.340 fun do you think kirstarmer is a fun guy would you like to go for a pint with kirstarmer no

00:01:17.500 no we're also going to talk about ukraine and russia which should be very interesting then we're

00:01:22.360 going to talk about election season bo you've got some special paraphernalia

00:01:26.180 oh for it don't you well we'll keep it as a surprise

00:01:29.960 uh cole's already won it once

00:01:31.960 sounds wrong yeah i was gonna say you should maybe we should clarify what no we'll leave that

00:01:39.960 up in the air we'll leave that for the audience to decide what it is and so uh with that let's get

00:01:46.480 into the news a and let's talk about labor's plot to ban fun so in britain we have a glorious culture

00:01:54.420 a glorious wonderful drinking culture we like to go for a pint at the weekend with the lads

00:02:01.440 some people like to go for pints every night with the lads and i found this amazing clip which i think

00:02:08.360 sums up british culture now this is i will admit an irishman but it does look like such a north fc

00:02:15.300 this is like an ai generated north fc this is irish bars okay with presumably miniature irish bars

00:02:22.120 in the waking in the making he i mean look at the look he's built the shape of this lad

00:02:27.720 what an absolute tank of a child and here's what we like to do on the weekends

00:02:33.240 look at his hand on that yeah he knows what he's doing is that stout is that guinness that's guinness

00:02:43.560 say guinness now the only thing that's missing from this is he should have a lit fag in the other

00:02:48.420 hand but we'll forgive him he's only young he's learning

00:02:52.480 look at him go it's a bit bad because he's not that old i don't know how old that kid is no i don't

00:03:01.140 recommend this of course i remember being random irish noises

00:03:07.300 so i think that's a that that is a picture picture that as the life of the average british

00:03:21.480 man up till about 1990 that's what we were all doing really we don't admit it that often but it's

00:03:28.120 true and the culture that isn't just unique to the british isles loads of places in europe

00:03:32.120 yep it's heavy heavy drinking culture and has always been yeah we enjoy it in germany

00:03:38.220 oh yeah there's a massive drinking there's been a clip going around of some amazing german bar wench

00:03:43.280 where she's been carrying about 10 plus pints all in one go octoberfest yeah for octoberfest it's

00:03:49.880 incredible the amount of precision that that must take but there's a reason that we like doing this

00:03:54.580 obviously i don't recommend that children like him do it but we like having fun it's nice to have fun

00:03:59.780 isn't it chaps yeah when you're not under some sort of house arrest yeah and also i will say from my

00:04:06.420 own experience i don't know about you guys but also working in a bar at a pub behind the bar is kind of

00:04:12.260 a rite of passage it gives you lots of social skills it certainly did for me makes you more resilient

00:04:17.020 it makes you more confident it helps you to uh understand social dynamics a bit better so we've got

00:04:23.140 a long long history of the pub and we also have a long long history of shilling islander which you

00:04:29.580 should buy again on the website 14.99 buy it now but there are some people who do not like the pub

00:04:37.360 and they do not like the idea of people socializing because it might be a threat to them

00:04:42.700 you're talking globalists globalists yeah if you've got muslims don't like booze do they if

00:04:49.000 you've got a bunch of working class british lads go into the pub enjoying themselves maybe talking

00:04:56.740 about how rubbish the country's been getting recently that's not great getting rowdy and

00:05:01.940 having a laugh should be illegal really i mean there's no place for it in our modern world is

00:05:06.480 there according to the blood-sucking vampires that make up our government yes and that's where i come

00:05:11.400 to keir starmer who in 2021 had this happen to him

00:05:15.780 that's the uh landlord who is desperate to try and kick keir starmer out of his pub

00:05:31.680 that man is not allowed in my pub get out of my pub go on get out of my pub

00:05:39.420 what an embarrassment so that that was uh keir starmer being kicked out of a pub in bath i've

00:05:51.900 seen that i've seen that clip before it was back in 2021 during the covid era what was the guy's

00:05:57.680 beef with starmer was he like a corbynista or was he a tory i don't know does anyone know i don't

00:06:03.640 know it's bad hate him from the left or from the right it's bad so i'm gonna assume corbynista or

00:06:08.900 or maybe it's just the fact that um keir starmer supporting lockdowns hurt his it might just be that

00:06:15.080 it might just it might just be something to do with that but i will say i think that on the start

00:06:19.900 of keir starmer's fun-sucking vampire um villain origin story that on this day keir starmer swore

00:06:28.980 that he would take revenge on this day yeah it could be couldn't it actually this is yeah it's

00:06:33.500 happened to me this is it all pubs must die yeah exactly yeah and that seems to be the policy that

00:06:40.020 labour is pursuing incrementally bit by bit they want to destroy pub culture and they want to destroy

00:06:45.580 the pubs because they've been doing all sorts to try and slowly strip away the social aspect of it

00:06:53.220 strip away the fun and most importantly for the pubs themselves strip away the profitability of it

00:06:59.640 which could put lots of pubs which a lot of them across the country are already struggling and going

00:07:05.400 out of business already could put even more out of business so the first thing was this ridiculous

00:07:11.240 suggestion that to improve the health of the nation they're going to do an outdoor smoking ban which

00:07:17.200 will affect obviously um outdoor parks and communal areas but also pub gardens and again one of the

00:07:25.480 things that brits like to do is go out into a pub beer garden on a weekend have a pint and a smoke

00:07:30.680 while they're at it the government has said that they are also going to be resurrecting rishi sunak's

00:07:36.080 flagship smoking bill you know the one that means that 14 year olds can't buy cigarettes at any point

00:07:42.200 in their life which some have suggested would lead to the ridiculous idea of you're going in as a 70

00:07:48.760 year old to get a pack of fags and you get id'd and rejected so you go outside and you ask the 71 year

00:07:55.000 old oh mate can you get me a pack of fags please mate that is what would that would happen wouldn't it

00:08:00.200 that is at that age yeah from that age you can't as absurd as it would get and like being id'd the

00:08:06.500 exact day or when you was born a ridiculous and unenforceable law labor despite the fact that

00:08:13.380 tory said well we'll shelve this because this is one of the most unpopular policies ever and is stupid

00:08:18.540 and would probably just create an underground tobacco industry a black market for tobacco um are they

00:08:25.920 gonna ban like snuff and like hamlets and like chewing tobacco we were are we allowed chewing

00:08:32.700 tobacco probably not probably tax from cigarettes pays for just like six times over doesn't it well

00:08:37.180 yeah they mentioned in here they mentioned here so uh keir starmer says he could go further and

00:08:42.380 smoke urban smoking out in outdoor venues labor wants to create a smoke-free country and measures to

00:08:48.600 achieve this will be done in consultation with businesses that could be affected which means that

00:08:52.600 it won't it won't be done because smoke-free country obviously means that businesses that could

00:08:57.080 be affected will be affected negatively so they'll all turn around and say no and keir starmer and

00:09:01.960 labor will say too bad we're doing it anyway and the article goes on to say that our smoking claims about

00:09:07.600 80 000 lives a year how many does obesity claim are we going to ban fat people that would probably

00:09:13.520 actually be more productive and estimates suggest it costs the nhs in england about 2.6 billion pounds per

00:09:20.380 year but i looked into it and it makes the government back about 8.8 billion a year in tax and tobacco

00:09:26.680 duties so to itself the uh yeah the idea that that's the reason to do it is bollocks frankly and

00:09:33.720 they die earlier no pension you haven't got to pay a pension so because as far as as far as the

00:09:38.180 evil managerial bureaucrats are concerned that govern this country the nhs is the perfect excuse to ban

00:09:46.140 literally everything yeah anything and everything can potentially cause harm and therefore can

00:09:53.720 potentially put strain on the nhs so therefore it's the perfect excuse but not to just increase

00:10:01.580 the population using the nhs exponentially endlessly not that not going to stop or ban or curb that in

00:10:07.840 any way no no not not at all and pay no mind to the idea that the people coming into this country

00:10:13.520 from the third world are far more dysgenic than the average brit and much more likely to have

00:10:20.040 degenerative diseases or preventable diseases that put strain on the nhs and the sheer number of them

00:10:26.920 alone would be enough to do that in the first place no we can't do that mass immigration is a

00:10:31.480 policy that has to continue at all times into perpetuity it must be infinite so we're going to take

00:10:37.080 away pubs and cigarettes from you okay guido folks was also reporting that they saw um they'd heard

00:10:44.040 rumors that uh nicotine pouches like these nordic spirits as well could be banned they spoke to the

00:10:50.220 department of health and social care and a spokesman said to them that the tobacco and vapes bill will be

00:10:56.680 the biggest public health intervention in a generation improving health healthy life expectancy and reducing

00:11:03.620 the number of lives lost to the biggest killers um you could have to deport a lot of people if you

00:11:09.040 want to get rid of the biggest killers alongside in what are nicotine pouches what is that um i don't

00:11:14.860 never heard of that i don't use them myself but i assume that it's flavored tobacco but like this you

00:11:20.680 like chewing tobacco possibly yeah because it says uh nordic spirit mint flavor cool mint and it's got a

00:11:27.100 strength label okay so i've never used it either way anything tobacco related it looks like they're just

00:11:33.200 going to get rid of and they say alongside introducing a progressive smoking ban to ensure the next

00:11:37.820 generation can never legally be sold tobacco the bill will also stop vapes and other consumer nicotine

00:11:43.000 products including pouches from being deliberately branded and advertised to appeal to children together

00:11:48.500 these measures will help stop the next generation from becoming hooked on nicotine and again if these

00:11:53.700 are the sorts of excuses being used when it's always the nhs they will start doing it to alcohol as well

00:12:00.320 eventually the audience has pushed back at me when i have said this before but the point of the matter

00:12:05.940 is that they are trying to reduce places and opportunities for people to socialize in a healthy

00:12:11.640 way and they also just hate fun they hate you being able to go outside and see your friends they locked

00:12:17.980 you down for near on two years to prevent you from going outside and seeing your friends after all

00:12:24.020 so the nhs can always be used as the reason for why oh well we got rid of the smoking but now we need

00:12:32.160 to look into how many deaths alcohol causes per year what strain does alcohol put on the nhs every week

00:12:39.400 from people coming into a and e on a friday or saturday night for instance so sorry lads we're just

00:12:43.900 going to have to cut it well it's definitely the trend isn't it of anything and everything they want to

00:12:48.580 just endlessly banning things you remember they they where they've got a problem with even fizzy drinks

00:12:53.680 right really sugary drinks that's a problem because the thing is it actually is a little bit of a

00:12:59.820 problem right if you drink too many fizzy drinks forever your likelihood of getting diabetes goes up

00:13:05.460 if you do smoke loads your likelihood of getting emphysema or lung cancer of course stroke cancer

00:13:09.040 whatever does go up if you drink loads then there's loads of liver kidney whatever i get it

00:13:14.220 by banning it you're not actually improving people's behavior or getting them to behave in

00:13:19.600 a more healthy way right the point i was going to make by saying all that yeah was that there's a

00:13:24.740 broader point about is it the state's job to tell you what you can or can't do well arguably no of

00:13:33.140 course the libertarian would say small government wouldn't they and think of the sugar tax all that

00:13:36.500 kind of stuff absolutely it should be education it should be addressing poverty i'm that guy that said

00:13:40.500 should be you know addressing the inequality surely that's what's going to stop people

00:13:44.580 doing these things that are totally harmful certainly um i would say if you're going to do

00:13:49.080 these sorts of things because again like at the beginning i don't encourage you to get small

00:13:52.740 children and feed them a pint of guinness um but when you're old enough to be responsible and make

00:13:58.260 the decisions for yourselves uh you should temper uh moderation in your own behavior that's what you

00:14:06.820 should do if you want to be a healthy person because do you think such a liberal i'm for all

00:14:12.420 small all under eights to smoke a pack of mulberry i've never said such a thing not once have i said

00:14:18.960 such a thing what i have said is they need to be going back down chimneys right okay we agree on that

00:14:23.960 all right there we go so there's some common ground right there but if they really wanted to make the

00:14:28.680 country healthier is the government in conjunction with this going to start handing out free gym passes

00:14:33.640 they're going to nationalize gym memberships for everybody they'd have the money to do it surely

00:14:38.620 if they saved all of this money for the nhs up to potentially billions of pounds per year so give

00:14:43.900 everyone a free gym membership have a fat tax where if you weigh a particular amount you're not allowed

00:14:49.340 to get access to particular services no they won't do that because it's not about health it's about

00:14:55.280 taking away opportunities for you to socialize in environments where the government can't spy on you

00:15:01.920 and to power out by the government but yeah you remember when johnson he initially talked about

00:15:07.000 keeping fit didn't he during covid and stuff and it just disappeared because i remember my wife saying

00:15:11.880 this is my chiropractor yeah she was like this is amazing we're going to get this this massive push

00:15:16.040 to get everyone like you know we're going to get reduced gym memberships and everything the government's

00:15:19.920 really going to push this thing some countries do and it stopped and she was living my wife she was

00:15:23.560 like this was such an opportunity to get people outside exercising outside that stopped didn't it

00:15:27.940 they masked off but you're only allowed uh an hour outside at a time i think that was the curfew that

00:15:33.340 you had to get people walking you could have people outside socializing you know or whatever

00:15:37.140 distance but they stopped it i always remember thinking why did johnson stop that and what was it

00:15:41.240 because he was pushing it and then he literally stopped someone said to him no we're going to stop

00:15:44.020 this maybe people live too long got to pay him too many pensions i don't know it is like an hour in

00:15:48.740 the yard like in prison yeah well you're allowed that's all you're allowed out 23 hour lockdown

00:15:53.600 you've got one hour in the yard yeah really small yard on your own you've got to walk around and

00:15:57.620 around uh yeah i don't know i think the ultimate goal is it's obviously not about money not even

00:16:04.420 about the nhs it's not about health i don't think it's about power and control do you really think

00:16:09.420 that yeah yeah the government this particular government particularly nearly all left-leaning

00:16:13.640 governments a big part of it big part of sort of the leftist paradigm is to have an ever bigger

00:16:20.980 government yeah of course and the tendrils of its power and control are ever extended into your life

00:16:27.120 a bureaucracy of course lacks agency so one of the things on on the left is say well you want more

00:16:31.320 bureaucracy because obviously rules they work don't they but in doing so agency goes out the window you

00:16:35.480 haven't got any agency anymore whereas on the right of course it's about agency it's about people

00:16:38.920 making their own life decisions of course i i also genuinely just believe that the sorts of people

00:16:43.240 making these decisions uh are anti-social and don't enjoy and are envious and spiteful at seeing

00:16:52.380 other people enjoy themselves because their lives are so gray and full of bureaucracy and joyless why

00:17:00.660 should anybody else be able to enjoy themselves i'm going to take that away from you because i'm in

00:17:05.080 the position to do so it's pure spite yeah i think about senior ministers and people in the civil service

00:17:11.080 high up in the civil service those types yeah again do you think that keir starmer it's not

00:17:16.900 intentional who is do you think keir starmer who is a man who has no discernible personality

00:17:22.420 has fun do you think he can have fun i don't personally but it's funny it's different to our

00:17:28.760 fun isn't it fun might be sitting down and i don't know reading a book or something i mean

00:17:31.980 he's got to have some he was asked he was asked what he was

00:17:34.220 oh he was and he said he didn't have one he didn't dream either did he remember that he's

00:17:38.200 never dreamt yeah he's never dreamt he is is that possible well i don't know is that physic

00:17:44.440 well he's never he was asked physically possible he said i've never had a dream

00:17:47.560 he is a bureaucratic automaton designed exactly what you want designed purely to occupy space in the

00:17:54.240 civil service absolutely and has been elevated to the position of prime minister having never

00:17:58.920 dreamed that that doesn't compute with me that's like saying i've i've never imagined something

00:18:03.340 like saying that right like matt wrightcraft perfect for government you're right so matt

00:18:07.200 wrightcraft who runs a civil service he's the guy remember he's out front of all the dni stuff and

00:18:10.760 everything you can put people like that in front of an agenda and they will conform to it they

00:18:14.340 will do exactly what you want so this guy you can control him completely whatever the controlling

00:18:18.500 thing is he's gonna do exactly what you what you're pushing whereas maybe other more popular

00:18:22.460 leaders probably wouldn't just just do you want to make your point that is honestly not that's not

00:18:28.200 i can't believe you know someone would never have never dreamt yeah never dream how is that

00:18:34.560 possible that's what he said yeah but you know some people say i once remember michael owen saying

00:18:38.400 i don't really like films i don't really watch any films i've watched like 10 films in my whole life

00:18:43.220 and i remember thinking so you don't like stories you don't like fiction you've got no imagination

00:18:48.560 like it just it just speaks volumes about your entire character if you don't like stories if

00:18:55.320 you don't like it's like i've never dreamt well that opens up a massive vista of questions to me

00:19:00.840 how is that possible i love this affects you so much i will say at the very least films are a

00:19:06.460 specific medium of storytelling so you could turn around and say well i just don't like the way that

00:19:12.100 they tell stories with films but not dreaming yeah what's the actual biology of that i don't know

00:19:19.320 how okay i've got i doubt i doubt he has an inner monologue i doubt he can spin an apple in his head

00:19:25.600 anyway anyway so so one of the other ways they're going to try and um ruin everything is to potentially

00:19:32.500 force pubs to close early so this was something that was spoken about the labor party conference in

00:19:37.680 liverpool where the public health minister andrew gwinn said the government was considering

00:19:42.100 tightening up the hours of operation of bars and pubs as a part of an attempt to improve health and

00:19:47.180 combat antisocial behavior a department for health spokesman said that it's categorically untrue but

00:19:53.700 that's a direct contradiction of what the public health minister was saying so one of them is lying

00:20:00.320 gwinn told the labor conference the mission board is working on a five-point plan looking at smoking

00:20:05.540 obesity alcohol inactivity and cleaner so maybe they are going to nationalize gym memberships maybe

00:20:10.200 they are going to make a fat tax where you're not allowed to be over a certain bmi uh but i doubt it

00:20:16.180 i i doubt it i reckon this will only stop at the we're going to ban all of this stuff and there will

00:20:22.160 be nothing proactive added to this and clean barbells for every household i mean if they want to come

00:20:28.020 and drop off a squat rack an olympic bar at my place i'd be very very great yeah a smith machine in

00:20:33.980 every house yeah yeah maybe maybe some adjustable dumbbells leg extensions leg press you know state

00:20:41.680 mandated number of reverse curls every day we need to grow we need to grow the forearms of the country

00:20:47.700 it's like in 1984 where you stand in front of the video screen and you have to do exercises and if you

00:20:52.380 don't do it vigorously enough it immediately calls you out on it so i don't think the government would

00:20:57.020 do that though because if you do improve your health and you go out and exercise and you

00:21:00.820 become stronger in body you also tend to become stronger in mind great uh greater ability to

00:21:07.740 motivate yourself greater ability to think for yourself so there's no way the government want

00:21:12.140 what the government wants is you stuck in your pod eating grass all day hooked up to the 24-hour

00:21:19.220 coom chamber that's what they want they want you to be able to hook your brain up to the cloud so that

00:21:25.760 you can experience porn 24 7 is that right whilst eating soy yeah whilst eating soy that's on your

00:21:34.000 own that's absolutely what they want because then you are no threat to them at all of course carrying

00:21:40.560 on gwyn insisted labor is not the fun police or the super nanny yes yes you are and he said the current

00:21:46.280 health of the nation is morally reprehensible and then chief medical officer professor sir chris witty do

00:21:53.820 we all remember him do we remember in jail is that man no is he is he at liberty no he's what he's the

00:21:59.460 chief medical officer and he's been and he's been knighted yeah he warned ministers that 60 percent of

00:22:06.080 the nhs budget will be eventually spent on preventable diseases if current trends continue

00:22:10.380 and increase from today's 40 percent again you know importing dysgenic migrants has nothing to do with

00:22:16.600 this um it obviously is all to do with the fact that you are still allowed to go outside

00:22:21.960 there's also potentially going to be a syntax according to the sun they've been reporting on

00:22:27.500 it that industry insiders have heard talk of a minimum unit pricing that would up the price

00:22:33.580 and duty hikes as well all of this will potentially cut even further into pub profits and they say in

00:22:40.760 here currently 35 percent of hospitality businesses are not making a profit and 500 pubs shut last year

00:22:47.340 alone addressing a booze and fag duty height a white hall a white hall source told the sun the budget

00:22:55.000 has not been decided there's a long way to go before the package is finalized which is not saying

00:22:59.180 anything at all which means that it probably will happen and this always comes back to the customers

00:23:05.000 because pints across the country get more and more expensive every single year look at london

00:23:11.300 for a single pint that's absolutely ridiculous funny i don't drink all that much like i don't ever

00:23:16.900 keep booze in the in the house for example when i do go out for the odd drink in swindon this is in

00:23:22.360 wiltshire i'm always surprised how cheap it is because i'm used to london prices oh i'm used to

00:23:26.980 buying two or three drinks and it's 20 quid yeah but all the more or you go somewhere in swindon and

00:23:32.220 you buy four pints and it's like eight pounds something like whoa really wow okay that's another

00:23:37.460 four yeah all of the pints all the pubs around the country now are at the same price that london price

00:23:43.320 would have been like 30 years ago so it always comes back to the customers at the end of the day

00:23:48.200 but i guess we don't have to worry because as has been reported you know there are studies calling

00:23:52.220 for the for the government to uh introduce smaller pint limits so this would be the two-third it's not

00:23:59.360 a pint then yeah the two-third pint yeah so this would be the upper limit that you'd be allowed to

00:24:05.420 sell this is a cambridge university academic study uh that is calling on the government to stop

00:24:12.060 serving beer in pints the study found and hold yourselves gentlemen because this might shock you

00:24:17.500 that uh alcohol consumption dropped by 10 when pubs shelved pint glasses and serve customers with

00:24:23.960 glasses two-thirds the size instead so if you serve people less beer they'll drink less beer

00:24:29.280 they went home and were creative calling and like i used to and sit on the sofa and

00:24:34.100 have another 16 tins i'll just buy a box of wine and have it at home that's that's taking that's taking

00:24:40.880 the business away from the pubs though of course it is but it's only 12 pence a pint they make on

00:24:44.460 this because of the tax they only make profit 12 pence a pint yeah it's very small well if they

00:24:48.480 increase if if they increase the duty hikes and everything it'll go down to uh uh 9.5 pence per

00:24:54.040 point that's what that's what they're saying so it will ruin pubs i was reading hitchhiker's

00:24:58.580 guide to the galaxy the other day and at the beginning of that they go in the pub and like buy

00:25:02.380 six pints or something and he plays with a tenner and says and says keep the chain

00:25:07.040 and the barman like can't believe it like really are you sure i can i can keep all of this money

00:25:13.080 yeah awesome that's painful what you've just told me no so the the labor government haven't come out

00:25:20.020 yet and said they support this but guess who did guess who did a former tory cabinet minister

00:25:26.760 came out and said that he supported this so you know even with this you've got labor saying

00:25:32.400 bit too much tories though tories turn around and say fantastic idea why brilliant because there

00:25:39.200 was nudge obviously we had the nudge units under cameron but this is the nanny units isn't it now

00:25:42.820 so we've gone a step further we're not nudging people we're literally telling people aren't we

00:25:48.100 you won't be able to buy a pint anymore you can't buy a pint in england that's fighting talk right there

00:25:52.040 i'll kick off right now studio up imagine though if we couldn't do that so you go and i'll have a pint

00:25:56.840 please no you won't you have a two-third pint i'll tell you when i used to get offended when i was

00:26:00.600 drinking massively literally i used to go to germany a lot and in those posh hotels my wife

00:26:05.520 always liked the posh hotels you know i mean i never did i you know but fine they would only

00:26:08.840 serve you in half pints used to anger me so much i mean germany it just feels like a waste of time

00:26:13.780 doesn't it oh well i've ordered i'll order 12 then just just as a starter you know i mean before she

00:26:17.480 she's having a shower i'm necking it down to the bar i'll have a pint please oh you can do half

00:26:20.900 pints but give me seven then quickly you know i mean you've got to get your burn on you know i thought

00:26:24.660 this was germany give me a stein yeah yeah big old two meters i want those girls to bring it to me

00:26:29.080 you know what i mean let's just do that but yeah half pints used to really offend me and if you

00:26:32.460 can't order a pint in england i mean what's what's the point of england if you cut this is i'm getting

00:26:37.240 angry now yeah the world coming i'll be over here this is what i mean this is what i mean it's a part

00:26:41.640 of our culture and i genuinely attach it to the british and the english mentality that we like to go

00:26:47.560 out and have a drink have a pint it's something that's special to us and this is just another way

00:26:52.460 that labor is going to flatten down our culture yeah because they're just going to take it away from us

00:26:58.220 and then we can be the same as all of the rest of the globalist managerial outposts that have been

00:27:03.900 replacing the nations it really is a part of the culture we sort of hinted at it at the beginning

00:27:09.200 but even when you go back to ancient times like tacitus talking about the ancient germans

00:27:14.660 talking about how they they're into their beer i mean beer is a really ancient thing ancient

00:27:18.680 egyptians brewed beer um and even through sort of the 18th and 19th century whole industries

00:27:24.120 um helped with the industrial revolution because of breweries and beer and beer it is a massive part

00:27:31.280 of our story of our wasn't as strong was it so it was a way of you could drink without getting ill

00:27:35.940 because it was basically small beer yeah that's right yeah it wasn't that strong at all you drink

00:27:39.920 all day didn't you yeah you drink small beer all day because we should bring that we should bring

00:27:43.320 that back we should bring it back beer all day yeah uh so you know that's that's what everything's

00:27:48.820 going on right now uh we've got footage that nick dixon showed of uh labor catching somebody

00:27:54.160 drinking two-thirds of a pint after about nine o'clock

00:27:56.740 brilliant angela rayner not impressed and the only response i can say to this is just

00:28:08.940 remark just do what jeremy clarkson is doing right now just ban keir starmer ban all of labor

00:28:15.560 from every single pub in the country because uh they they should be punished they really should

00:28:21.740 be punished for this there you go nice fun one to start the day off i'm angry now well perfect let's

00:28:29.480 get on to your segment oh haven't you got some um oh yeah sorry there's there's a load of rumble

00:28:33.960 rants bloody hell there's quite a lot of rumble rants thank you all for sending them in i'll get

00:28:37.580 through a few of them now so uh that's a random name for a dollar says when i was four years old my dad

00:28:42.800 would let my sister and i take a sip or two from his beer grew up to be a teetotaler and my relatives

00:28:47.500 in the balkans just don't understand how that's even possible yeah that's a random name again all

00:28:52.760 of these issues with the nhs could be solved by having everyone pay based on their health

00:28:55.840 the obese dysgenics could pay proportionately based on how much of a dead weight they are to the system

00:29:00.780 as an interesting and unique solution dragon lady chris for five dollars nicotine pouches are just

00:29:06.460 chewing tobacco in a little filter paper pouch slightly neater to deal with in a wad of loose leaves

00:29:10.500 fair play we've got that answer that's a random name again everything you said about the bureaucrats

00:29:15.120 is correct harry i went to school with a lot of politicians kids and they have no individuality

00:29:18.940 no personality are small-minded petty socialist tyrannical yeah yeah i'm not surprised he you can

00:29:25.640 always tell by the way that they behave by the things that they prioritize that that's how they

00:29:29.240 that's who they are on a personal level hewitt 76 everyone dreams it just depends on what period of

00:29:34.620 sleep we wake up in as to whether we remember them or not no no keir starmer doesn't dream i refuse to

00:29:39.800 believe that that man has a soul uh glee 77 77 uh the big bmi tax will also affect those who are

00:29:47.400 jacked pay up harry see i'm i'm in between i'm jacked and fat how about that bald eagle 1787 harry

00:29:55.120 they're going to ban everything that normal people do after the smoking and drinking bans gyms will

00:29:58.800 follow then obesity will overrun the nhs which will lean lead to more uh money being wasted funding it

00:30:04.380 probably royal judas being able to recreate images and sounds in your mind is not universal people

00:30:09.420 that cannot do this also cannot dream it as it relates to yq not all the high iq people can do

00:30:14.040 it either but no low iq people can and uh peter j harvey beware of the quiet people for they are the

00:30:21.740 ones that are unpredictable and uncontrollable it's easier to control outspoken people as you know what

00:30:26.760 they might do or actions that they would take is that paraphrasing jack sparrow that feels like it's

00:30:31.740 paraphrasing jack that's a valid point it is a valid point yes anyway let's talk about ukraine

00:30:37.300 yeah absolutely well my thing about ukraine are you introducing this no you just started oh sorry

00:30:43.240 okay no i'm on a bit of a mission here to to break down the nuance between the ukraine and the russian

00:30:48.420 war because i think people have a very and i did as well for a very long time with a very reductive

00:30:52.660 argument of well i was the opposite but people will say well putin bad putin invaded ukraine

00:30:57.580 so if someone invades another country that's a bad thing i mean we've done this lots ourselves

00:31:01.740 haven't we but no one seems to think that we're that bad although people do i mean the people in

00:31:05.100 the countries we invaded do yeah of course absolutely now they're coming here so you

00:31:08.200 know who would have thought that might happen if we go down the countries well i did two tours in

00:31:11.900 iraq i always remember thinking when i was flying over iraq thinking if we're telling people in iraq

00:31:16.060 that we're here because our way of life is better at some point they're going to come over to our way

00:31:20.580 of life aren't they and that's obviously i was over iraq no i watched um i don't want to go on too

00:31:25.000 much of a tangent but i watched full metal jacket yesterday and there's some great bits in that

00:31:29.680 where um i think they're doing a bit where they're interviewing all of the soldiers for

00:31:33.140 a film crew that are going through vietnam and one of them talks about how you know all

00:31:37.220 the people in vietnam that they're liberating aren't grateful to them they hate that they're

00:31:41.120 there they despise the people and he goes uh you know i guess they must prefer being alive than being

00:31:45.780 free yeah yeah yeah crazy that's what we always do we go into some place and we bomb the hell out of

00:31:51.920 it and we say don't worry you're free now yeah well i mean the the hussein family were a crime

00:31:57.940 family of of course forget that yeah but they obviously kept that country together and they

00:32:03.060 kept the whole region together now whether it was methods that we wouldn't use i think it's that this

00:32:06.760 brings me to my next point of course but it's almost like it set you up for it the issue is i don't think

00:32:11.320 people and i'm one of these people i'm trying to learn as deep as i can by reading multiples of

00:32:15.120 sources we don't understand the russian way of thinking we apply our own western thoughts to

00:32:20.300 putin and it's completely i've read a book by philip short at the moment called putin which is a great

00:32:24.640 book to read or a podcast when you're you know doing some gym work or whatever but it's a very

00:32:28.560 in-depth look at putin and you realize putin and the people he goes through especially in the kgb

00:32:32.660 they're just not the same as the way we are they're not the same as us even the way we looked at these

00:32:38.000 people we're looking at still for a very western lens and it's not a western lens and i'm trying to

00:32:42.660 get people to understand the historical significance which is brilliant that you're here of russia

00:32:46.640 and uh is it kiven rus where the principality that started yeah pretty much around the kiev area

00:32:52.700 back in what the ninth century and the multiple of tribes that then went out of course from there

00:32:57.620 into the step lands wasn't it in the forested areas and moscow grew up as one of the um one of

00:33:02.720 the one of the main sort of areas and stuff but people don't realize that and so when we look at

00:33:06.060 the the russian ukraine war of which i am not an expert at all by the way you have to look at it

00:33:10.800 from putin's point of view of why he thinks that ukraine's so important to him and he really sees it as

00:33:15.460 the birthplace of russia so how do you how do you argue with that and who are we to argue with that

00:33:20.680 because we see it as a buffer don't we so we we say well and i used to say this a lot

00:33:24.840 putin doesn't want data on its doorstep and when we look and i'm going to say this as well now

00:33:29.720 when we look at america and bringing in democracy around the world of course everyone must want

00:33:34.260 democracy of course and if they don't we're going to give it to them and they're going to love us

00:33:37.800 for it freedom is the only way exactly there's another great line for full metal jacket where one

00:33:42.740 of the um one of the squad leaders they're speaking to says we're here because in every

00:33:47.460 g uh is an american waiting to get out right that's the mentality it probably is he would

00:33:54.480 not want freedom and jeans and pepsi whatever it might be but the but the truth of the matter is i

00:33:58.620 mean it's yeah we're forcing aren't we but when we look at how many u.s bases around i mean what

00:34:03.860 is ukraine got to do with the north atlantic treaty organization where let's be honest with you i mean

00:34:09.680 we're just spreading this now to everyone with the eu can kind of understand nato really can we

00:34:15.360 understand so there's always stuff but also russia hasn't got any bases next to america and if you

00:34:19.380 had russian bases in mexico and canada i think it'd be very i think you could sort of understand

00:34:23.080 america going well we want these places but it doesn't so i think putin has a point and whether

00:34:28.340 we like to think he has a point or not let's look at whether let's pretend he does put yourself this

00:34:32.900 is what you used to do in the military let's red team stuff let's think about what the enemy thinks

00:34:37.300 because that's really the only vote that matters not what we think right because i couldn't care less

00:34:40.960 what we think because the enemy is going to think differently let's put ourselves in the shoes of

00:34:43.940 the enemy we want to see russia as the enemy russian people the enemy since when were the

00:34:47.420 russian people the enemy of us i just i'm absolutely you know i speak to russians online

00:34:51.980 when they're not the enemy of us so obviously putin wants to keep ukraine within the sphere of

00:34:56.760 influence of russia as he did with georgia south ossetia we all know the history of that stuff

00:35:00.720 very reactionary to his war something happens he goes in solves it might leave a few people there

00:35:05.800 comes back out again i don't think people fully appreciate the sort of history and the

00:35:10.120 significance between ukraine and russia that's where i'm coming from and why are we not educating

00:35:14.500 people on this why are we just saying russia going into eastern ukraine bad that's it he must be the

00:35:20.040 bad person i think because the state department and the pentagon hawks need it to be that way the

00:35:25.740 blinkens yeah the newlands i think uh the one point you made i think is very very interesting is that

00:35:30.740 the russian view of the world is different to western europe and america yeah it's a fundamentally

00:35:37.480 different worldview in fact to the point almost where it's cliche where people have said that for

00:35:42.300 hundreds of years about the russians say that during the 19th century crimean war is that don't

00:35:48.020 try and understand the russian mindset because unless you grew up russian you won't yeah um and uh we

00:35:54.920 mentioned just always on camera about the the tucker tucker carlson putin interview which i thought was

00:36:01.320 very very interesting and i actually did a bit of content with apostolic majesty go on lotusseaters.com

00:36:06.840 to uh check out one of the older epochs episodes where i took where we broke down we spoke for a

00:36:11.640 couple of hours or more yeah breaking down what putin said in that yeah so i saw that and again

00:36:16.220 you're going back to the kiev and russ yeah you're going back the best part of a thousand years of

00:36:20.480 history people don't understand it just one example in the 14th century the mongols yes annihilated

00:36:26.740 kiev yes absolutely right they completely invaded and occupied uh russia uh novogrod and stuff and uh

00:36:34.340 and uh the the duchy of moscow for generations the golden hold okay in western europe we have got

00:36:42.640 none of that that's just not in our psyche that's just not in our history that's just one tiny example

00:36:47.880 but to add to what you're discussing what it what it sounds to me like you're both saying

00:36:52.220 is that in russia they have a much longer historical memory where they see themselves

00:36:57.960 as the inheritors of an incredibly long lineage of um of a civilization that was gifted to them by

00:37:05.920 their ancestors whereas in the west we're explicitly and purposefully taught to think almost uh the

00:37:12.860 opposite or certainly not in that way where our ancestral memory is uh disconnected from us where

00:37:18.640 we're told that most of your history was wrong most of your history was evil you need to cut

00:37:23.500 yourselves off from it you need to dismiss it they all of your ancestors were all bigots cowards

00:37:29.600 uh slave owners of some form and what history you do learn is already taught in these very very broken

00:37:36.100 up modules where you'll learn maybe a bit about the civil war you'll learn that henry the eighth had a

00:37:41.520 few wives that he wasn't very nice to because he wanted a son and very very little else maybe the

00:37:47.280 norman conquests so you don't get a sense of your own history as being this long connected story

00:37:53.740 leading to you and your family and your descendants to protect it yeah because that it breeds complacency

00:38:00.020 and it can it breeds uh apathy towards your own history whereas the russians don't have that so we

00:38:05.960 might be able to understand it a bit better if we had been raised in a more similar way like they do

00:38:10.500 but we're not here i think the point you're making to me is very completely valid i couldn't agree more

00:38:15.660 with you that uh to be forced to accept that history started when when uh putin invaded crimea

00:38:25.340 that's right or after that that things started there the story the narrative started there

00:38:29.340 it's just it's just it couldn't be more silly really it's silly yeah i think i think we can all

00:38:35.960 understand young minds capitalizing on this and when i talk about young minds and what's about young

00:38:40.240 people i speak to young people all the time who've got a far sense a far greater sense of history

00:38:44.200 than some old people have it's the it's the inability to look deeper into an issue to maybe

00:38:49.080 listen to a podcast or listen to one of your epochs or something and just just say what is this let's

00:38:53.480 just let's just break this out like why is putin so intent on having presence having some kind of

00:38:59.080 aspect of ukraine influence basically i mean if you go back to what um uh what yanukovych obviously being

00:39:05.360 ousted in the what 2010 i mean i think the actual and then coming into perushenko and and then

00:39:10.760 of course if we actually look about crimea and why he wanted to keep crimea and it crimea was on

00:39:14.580 it people didn't realize crimea was leased from ukraine for 90 million pound a year from about

00:39:18.940 2010 it was least it was least before that in fact it went on to a lease that was going to expire in

00:39:22.220 2042 people don't realize that putin had leased it from ukraine so i want this crimea era i want it

00:39:27.700 and then when um yanukovych was ousted of course in the in the euro maidens in 2014 wasn't it and

00:39:33.080 perushenko came and he saw perushenko leaning west again as yashenko had done previous to

00:39:38.080 yanukovych and he thought i'm going to lose control of crimea and sevastopol my only the

00:39:43.320 two when we look at it in a very sort of strategic way as putin obviously does he thinks well i can't

00:39:48.060 have that so i can't i know it's going to happen they're going to stop this lease it was for a gas

00:39:52.500 deal as well that was involved we're going to give you cheap gas to ukraine so he said you know

00:39:56.060 what i'm going to put my little green men in there i'm just going to secure the territory i'm not

00:39:59.120 saying anything's right or wrong but i can say we can understand it if we look deeper into the history

00:40:02.980 you've got a naval base there vast expense so what ukraine did is they went all right we're going to

00:40:07.140 stop the water flow and crimea is reliant on water from the northern crimean canal for example that

00:40:11.700 that is in the eastern area of ukraine above you above crimea so they blocked the canal so he didn't

00:40:16.620 have any water so he hasn't got any water in crimea so now he's got to go and secure that water source

00:40:20.620 well eventually we do we go into that's what he does we we think all right we're gonna we're

00:40:25.580 russians we're going to go and secure that water source we're going to secure some mineral wealth and

00:40:29.200 some gas aspects of you can see how it builds it's not just a case of we're going to go and take eastern

00:40:34.680 ukraine so the russian bear was being poked rather than that the russian bear is innately aggressive

00:40:40.120 and mad so i'll say about nato as well i think one of the common things i used to talk a lot about

00:40:45.520 before i started reading deeper into it was the nato expansion or eu expansion like this

00:40:50.340 we can see if nato keeps walking up to that border you know i mean nato people say nato is already on

00:40:55.680 the border yes he doesn't want it even more on the 1200 kilometer border does he he already knows

00:40:59.380 nato's on the border on the on the northern states and everything so he doesn't want that to be

00:41:03.100 exposed so he hasn't got a buffer and whether we think nato is uh compliant and it's not going

00:41:09.080 to invade it doesn't matter what we think it's what putin thinks and putin doesn't think the

00:41:12.600 same as us in order russian people you know i mean their their history is of him being invaded isn't

00:41:16.320 it we haven't been invaded since 900 and something you've come out with some facts and figures

00:41:20.560 66 i'll say a thousand years or whatever you know we haven't technically been invaded they have

00:41:25.360 that's the problem and where were they invaded across the ukrainian areas across the whole of

00:41:29.620 eastern europe sort of thing so they are very worried about that and he just wants to make sure

00:41:32.620 that border secure i used to reduce my argument down to that nato expansionism but it's more than

00:41:37.880 that it's deeper more historical than that and i don't think we live in a world right now or a

00:41:42.180 scrolling instagram whatever it is that allows that kind of depth of research all that understanding

00:41:46.900 i think as a nation we're capable of it because we realize we should realize how the english especially

00:41:52.440 the english are being reduced how the pint was a classic example can you imagine that i mean you can

00:41:58.280 imagine that flag the english flag was hold was out someone's window wasn't it a white van man's

00:42:02.540 window emily thornberry remember her post on that and she she had a go at that didn't she i mean

00:42:06.920 it's this is the englishman that is being reduced now the english history is being so we should be

00:42:11.440 invested in looking at other people's histories let's just say in this particular case russia

00:42:16.300 why are they doing this why is ukraine pushing against it why is ukraine leaning to the eu what's

00:42:21.180 you know what's that about but we don't we just say russia bad how am i a 20 year veteran royal

00:42:26.200 air force officer actually sort of being like a putin apologist here i'm not you know what i mean

00:42:31.760 but it's weird you think it's weird why am i doing it just because i open my eyes a little bit and go

00:42:35.540 right what's the detail what what's it about let's let's flush it out a little bit and i'm angry at

00:42:40.120 that two-thirds point but that's what i get whenever i say anything like this you get immediately accused

00:42:46.500 of being a putin apologist or you're being paid by russia or something it's like no i'm just

00:42:52.100 i'm just talking about history i'm just talking about reality that's all yeah exactly yeah because

00:42:57.080 if you look at the relationship between kiev and moscow yeah just that sure um and let's say just

00:43:03.300 the 19th and 20th century alone it's a very very very involved story yeah crazily involved story

00:43:12.020 from the from the russians what lenin did lenin's sort of settlement with the ukraine with ukraine

00:43:17.880 how the how stalin treated ukrainians absolutely in the gulag system if you read um sojournitsyn

00:43:24.860 yeah the history all sorts of stuff all about ukraine even ever since since 89 when the soviet union

00:43:31.320 collapsed just from 1989 until 2014 or whatever that window of time yeah massively complicated

00:43:38.920 relationship hugely really really complicated thing and bound up with a thousand years plus

00:43:44.920 of of baggage but no you have to we you know the state department and our foreign office and the

00:43:51.300 pentagon and and the politicians say no you can only really think about this in terms of since 2014 or

00:43:58.300 whatever it is so i think uh and zelensky is a new churchill putin's a new hitler and he must have

00:44:04.720 endless money and they'll stay there until the job is done and that's one of the things like for example

00:44:08.680 that's just one more example of how low resolution it is and deliberately so that they all trot out

00:44:14.300 the same line it's obviously the agreed line literally is as long as it takes yeah they do

00:44:20.160 or putin's hitler and stuff you know that kind of that kind of labeling don't they for as long as it

00:44:24.360 takes until they win what do you what is winning talking about yeah what do you mean winning well

00:44:29.180 again that was basically churchill's whole thing um after the fall after dunkirk was to just carry on

00:44:35.120 the fighting however you can until essentially america can come in or well in the second world

00:44:42.300 war it was until america and the russians can come in but now we're against the russians again so i

00:44:46.980 think the idea is again again you paint putin as a new hitler and then you keep the war rhetoric hot

00:44:54.900 you make sure that there is a division where rhetoric is consistently ramping up until it does

00:45:00.720 eventually come to on the ground actual conflict between maybe the other western nations not just

00:45:06.560 ukraine and russia and then you have in the people's mind this idea that yeah they are

00:45:12.060 evil incarnate the people that you're fighting i mean the same thing was was in the first world war

00:45:17.880 as well wasn't there there was a atrocity propaganda that the germans had been going through belgium and

00:45:22.740 what's like like spearing babies or something so there's always in the ramp up to war this kind of

00:45:30.840 atrocity rhetoric or this us v them mentality rhetoric that's ramped up to get the population ready for if

00:45:38.960 there is combat yeah but the idea of having endless money essentially staying there until as long as it

00:45:46.940 takes until the job is done until there's victory so you're talking about surrounding moscow well

00:45:54.840 that's what they were saying taking moscow with divisions well that's the ultimate goal

00:45:58.360 that's not gonna happen what ukrainian armored divisions and infantry divisions are gonna

00:46:02.680 surround moscow storm the kremlin and remove putin well you've got to remove putin it's not

00:46:08.360 it's not gonna happen but you saw sergey lavrov didn't you in uh the un general general assembly was

00:46:13.640 it recently when he's talking when david lammy was addressing it i mean as a black man david lammy

00:46:18.540 was addressing look at the delta of intellect between those two i mean sergey lavrov is the

00:46:23.700 longest serving russian diplomat since the sarist era if i consider david lammy's intellect i might

00:46:28.680 get us banned off it is it is all carry on well i'm not even i'm not hating on the individual you

00:46:32.680 know i'm saying i'm not that kind of guy that does that but it just is ridiculous that he's addressing

00:46:36.460 literally the president of a slavic nation and he's talking about david lammy's talking about

00:46:40.920 slavery i'm like this is the only point of reference and it always has been or but you

00:46:46.140 don't you don't take it to the un do you and use it as a leverage i i stand here as a black man

00:46:51.780 well for a start you're sitting down mate you know i mean let's just well i i said the way that i i view

00:46:56.420 this is that i can you can tell when you watch somebody like david lammy give that speech or any

00:47:02.040 other leftist the way that they intone their voice the pauses that they give in their head

00:47:07.820 there's swooping camera angles there's a swelling of an orchestral soundtrack it is true they think

00:47:15.080 they're in their high school films giving a speech to the bully that makes the bully realize i've been

00:47:22.140 wrong this whole time i need to change my voice that's how they see the world it's it's high school

00:47:28.520 nerds which are good people who are them versus the jock bullies who are bad people that's how they

00:47:34.400 see the world well that's interesting being left and right if you look at they found it in america

00:47:37.660 didn't they all the all the right guys were like lifting and trying to get themselves jacked because

00:47:41.380 they know what's coming and all the guys all the guys on the left weren't you know sitting in the

00:47:44.800 basement eating like watsits and stuff you know which we've all done you know many times but no

00:47:48.640 that is that is one of the things so i i think my own my my thing here we that's it really is just

00:47:53.560 uh let's delve into a bit more of the history look at the russian people look at their point of

00:47:56.600 view and and literally try and go there it's like what does it mean for putin not to have

00:48:01.480 that warm water port what is it what does it mean like why are we not who who brought the

00:48:05.860 north stream 2 pipeline that went quiet didn't it come on i mean well there was the reports that i

00:48:11.480 no i'm joking you know i'm joking that's what they want us oh yeah of course i spoke to an afd dude

00:48:17.600 once and he literally did uh peter bowringer i did an interview with him and i asked him about that

00:48:23.020 and he actually did do that and he wasn't joking he was literally like um seriously uh can't talk

00:48:29.040 about that uh yeah well there were the reports that came through i think it was weird as hell

00:48:34.640 there was the wall street journal articles from a few i think last month of the month before where

00:48:39.300 they were trying to pin the whole thing on it being it was a ukrainian inside job but zelensky

00:48:45.000 wasn't in favor of it and it was come up by some general and three other guys when they got drunk

00:48:52.380 one night who thought it would be a really great false flag and the whole story absolutely stank

00:48:58.860 and there were a few things you know america had no involvement other than being aware that there

00:49:03.560 were these people trying to do it except they were saying no you shouldn't do it and again there was a

00:49:09.280 lot wrong with that story there's about three countries in the world that know how to do that

00:49:13.460 i was gonna say you need uh either a nuclear you need a submarine program right you need professional

00:49:18.640 frogmen you need well yeah it was done by people could have done it it was done by a pair of diving

00:49:23.760 on a yacht or something wasn't it on a yacht on a yacht the yacht yeah i saw that yes and they managed

00:49:27.820 to get into exceptionally they managed to sail into foreign waters uh in the dead of night but one of

00:49:34.840 them got caught on a flash from a speed camera i think if i remember the story correctly uh and one

00:49:41.940 of them uh the whole thing talk about the whole thing made no sense that's why they put these things

00:49:47.500 out multiple stories to get us all talking about other stuff whereas the truth is to do that you

00:49:51.960 need a military that can do that and that is expensive equipment it's expensive training and

00:49:55.800 it takes an exercise off whatever coast norwegian coast whatever it was at the time to be able to

00:49:59.800 sorry the chat the chat is gone mad is it the chat is cocking an eyebrow saying did did he do it

00:50:05.540 yeah why not sure did he did everything else did he throw that on his rapture we'll not be talking

00:50:10.920 about that but one other thing i'd say about the sort of the idea of victory conditions of ukraine

00:50:16.720 winning yeah yeah valid point it's like so like um there's these bits of the donbass and bits of

00:50:23.440 eastern ukraine sure um that are occupied essentially by by russia um i don't see how

00:50:31.100 short of uh short of a full-blown conflagration yeah uh with lots of european countries or the

00:50:39.280 american army yeah actually sending in thousands of marines or u.s infantry divisions and stuff

00:50:45.580 there's no way to really take that back off of russia ukraine on its own cannot i don't think

00:50:52.400 take those areas back it's not capable of doing it you remember last summer there was this big

00:50:57.320 offensive that they spent billions on apparently and it didn't go anywhere it didn't they dug in

00:51:01.720 the russians the actual the actual um what's the what's actually happening on the ground

00:51:08.060 the russians manufacturing so much more artillery and stuff it's like a it's an artillery war in all

00:51:14.600 sorts of ways yeah it always was they've got loads more armor loads more tanks than the ukrainians

00:51:19.800 will ever be able to field really um there's no there's there's not really any scenario where

00:51:26.380 ukraine can win well haven't you spoken about why f-16s aren't flying over ukraine and we haven't

00:51:32.320 spoken about the surface of a missile threat the ground-based air defense integrated air defense

00:51:35.420 systems i was an electronic warfare instructor i don't talk about all the time but there's a reason

00:51:39.260 that you when you go against russia you you learn about these things because they are expert at

00:51:43.600 electronic warfare and someone like uh nancy pelosi or chuck schumer or whoever our prime minister is

00:51:50.380 or someone at the pentagon they don't like to talk about that russia does have the biggest nuclear

00:51:54.880 arsenal right it comes up every now and again oh yeah there is a possibility of a sort of full

00:51:59.320 nuclear exchange and a nuclear winter and stuff yeah but let's just not talk about that let's just

00:52:04.220 talk about staying as long as it takes and keep giving zielinski billions let's just talk about that

00:52:09.240 instead yeah it's just it's so low resolution that it's not making any sense well it's supposed

00:52:15.380 it's not supposed to make sense it's supposed to allow us to give on a lend-lease deal all the

00:52:19.320 weapons and then we can start rebuilding our own the money goes back into industry that i'm

00:52:23.040 obviously banned from which in a way is probably a good thing defense and then uh even though i've

00:52:27.600 been asked to rejoin the air force but that's because they haven't got any instructors so understand

00:52:31.160 that and then all of a sudden we're just rebuilding we're employing people to make missiles to

00:52:34.860 make bombs in the uk employ people they go and buy tvs they go to the supermarket spend money

00:52:38.740 it regenerates the economy we understand how it works it's not saying it's a bad thing it comes

00:52:42.680 around all the time doesn't it iraq syria afghanistan libya whatever the next one is

00:52:46.800 russia's the next one iran's giving the next one it's a continual one the spread of democracy around

00:52:51.040 the world i get myself banned from my own you know it's a lot more about the old money i just think

00:52:55.500 it's a money generation you cannot have a standing army this is the problem that the the uk has at the

00:52:59.480 moment where we've dropped down to such a this is why we're losing this is why instructors have gone

00:53:04.320 we can't get instructors in the fast jet our fast jet pipeline cannot it cannot it's not

00:53:08.720 we haven't got an indigenous british fast jet pipeline right now we cannot train people on

00:53:12.160 fast jets because the instructors aren't there we're sending students and instructors to america

00:53:15.840 and italy to train them because up in north wales we don't have enough instructors to train our

00:53:20.120 students and we always said back in 2010 when we privatized the whole thing you know unless we

00:53:24.000 actually look after these instructors and we grow indigenous instructor capability we're going to

00:53:27.740 lose this and now i'm being called by the air force have you thought about rejoining i understand it at

00:53:31.880 the age of 50 you know with a neck like a giraffe do you want to get back in a fast jet cockpit not really

00:53:35.780 but let's have the conversation because i still believe that we need to be looking after our

00:53:40.320 military looking after we just have to unfortunately and i have that thing in my head that you know i'm

00:53:44.120 always a bit of self-sacrifice fine let's have a think about it but the truth it's a dangerous world

00:53:48.480 and leaving ourselves wide open it is a stupid thing to do it is it is and we're not you know we're not

00:53:53.540 encouraging young people so we're taking away their um the nationalism of the young that the right

00:53:59.180 word the patriotism of the young we're saying that you're you know it's not right to have a white skin

00:54:03.160 you can't have a pint in the pub anymore i mean i'm sounding like you know i'm here you know

00:54:07.360 sounding like one of these guys and i'm raging on about stuff but the truth is i still believe

00:54:11.280 if we lose that with the in our in our own country we're never going to get it back and we're never

00:54:15.460 going to get it back all we do is be flooded with a lot of immigrants we dilute the whole nationalist

00:54:19.200 feeling that we used to have we won't have that i'll tell you what when the country becomes 50

00:54:23.200 non-english we just have to invert our own flag won't we no it's going to be that unfortunately so

00:54:29.060 so in summary i think we need to look a bit deeper into the russian thing because it's probably

00:54:34.300 happening to us on a different kind of scale and try and work out what ash is happening there and

00:54:38.260 i must have haven't even looked at your comments that i don't want to do you think there's a really

00:54:40.860 good point you made and i've seen lots of people make it and i put a lot of stock in it that we're

00:54:46.880 giving them britain and america and other countries giving them lots and lots of materiel

00:54:50.720 and it's to clear out our stock so we that's right so we have to spend big budgets on all the new

00:54:58.200 stuff lifex you've either got to destroy it you give it away you know you lend lease it you go i'm

00:55:01.760 going to lend you this and if you use it you pay me for it which they are going to use it of course

00:55:04.800 that means we can build more i mean that whole dynamic has also got baked into it the loss of an

00:55:10.880 entire generation of ukrainian men folk and this is the and thousands of russian soldiers we're not

00:55:15.400 even talking about they're just they're just completely expendable but it and it is that

00:55:19.840 badness but it's always been done disgusting i know that is that's the thing i get that as well

00:55:23.500 by people who are there saying we're doing the right thing the right thing like you think it's

00:55:28.340 the right thing i'm sure the families in ukraine and i'm sure the families in russia don't think

00:55:32.300 it's the right thing to do and i always say winning was not doing it at all so winning was was

00:55:38.120 having a conversation 2014 and going we're being pushed into this aren't we and we're being agitated by

00:55:42.820 russian troops in east of course we are we understand that and we're shelling understand

00:55:46.140 as as a final point i think to um close off this conversation if that's all right gentlemen

00:55:51.860 i will say winning would have been an actual serious peace talks at the beginning of the

00:55:59.220 conflict that were going on in the early 2022 and that were pull cut off because of the fact that

00:56:06.800 ukraine yes did manage to be a bit more successful in pushing away the russian forces than they were

00:56:12.740 expecting to at first and also because of agitation and encouragement from people like boris johnson

00:56:19.100 who went over there and said we will give you all the support for as long as you need

00:56:23.860 into perpetuity forever we will support you forever and as you say what does this mean this

00:56:30.120 means that an entire generation of ukrainian men have to go to their death and if you actually look at

00:56:35.360 the foreign affairs article that was talking about that there was a remarkable amount being put on the

00:56:41.740 table even by the russians because the russians did not want an extended dragged out military

00:56:48.000 conflict in ukraine probably because they were worried rightfully so that if it went on long

00:56:53.720 enough that america would try to involve itself more and more into it they even said there was no

00:56:59.900 guarantees made of course but they even said that they were willing to speak about crimea at the time

00:57:05.540 and so the fact that we basically went in and sabotaged those talks or at least our government

00:57:11.140 did shows that the government do not care about peace they do not care about a settlement they only

00:57:17.080 care about aggression towards russia that's how i perceive it and if and if you watching this if you

00:57:23.360 hate russia and you want us to you know win a military conflict against russia you know that's your

00:57:29.340 business i do not want generations of men to have to die and i do not want generations of my own

00:57:35.680 country men to get sucked into it either that's my view on the matter or at the low low price of an

00:57:41.220 infinite amount of ukrainian blood brilliant yeah and with that let's go into some of the rumble

00:57:47.000 rants that have been sent in and then we'll go on to your segment to finish this off bo and um let me

00:57:53.180 scroll down here we go all right so that's a random name again he's been very generous today says

00:57:59.320 the eastern european mentality is simple we like strength order and straightforwardness this is why

00:58:04.600 most of us don't even see putin as a dictator to many of us he's a patriarch of sorts this is the

00:58:09.560 same i've got friends from eastern europe one of them is ukrainian and he is very much the same he

00:58:14.540 typifies all of those traits yeah that you laid out there i quite like uh the eastern european mentality

00:58:21.820 because of the straightforwardness if they've got something on their mind that they want to say

00:58:25.680 they won't dilly dally or dance around it they'll tell you which i respect and appreciate

00:58:30.020 communism or soviet communism is in living memory yeah oh yeah absolutely within living memory he's

00:58:36.380 in his 50s so he grew up in the soviet union and he misses it it's something you don't expect to hear

00:58:43.460 on our side of the pond but he basically just says that oh yeah the streets were clean and people

00:58:48.660 behave themselves i miss it so much by the 1980s people only sometimes disappeared i have mentioned

00:58:55.960 that to him and he was sort of like hand wave yeah well it never happened to anyone i knew right yes so

00:59:01.520 you know okay if that's how you feel about it uh that's a random name again also as post commie

00:59:06.240 societies it is a ruthless and lawless place therefore someone like putin is needed if you actually want

00:59:11.920 anything to get done it's crazy how many people buy into american propaganda ec was here for one

00:59:18.720 dollar says do you do you know how victoria newland first came into being she was an elf once taken by

00:59:25.080 the dark powers tortured and mutilated a ruined and terrible form of life glad to get an origin story

00:59:32.580 for her that's a random name when the war in ukraine started i was speaking with a tenured history

00:59:37.800 professor at a university who said that putin was a war criminal and without skipping a beat followed it up

00:59:41.700 with if i was in charge i'd nuke moscow and that is the mentality of our ruling class right now

00:59:47.960 to be honest uh dragon lady chris says beau do you have a recommended reading list on british history

00:59:53.520 or at least your top three uh i always say sir charles oman on british history um is that available

01:00:02.400 on amazon is it easy it would be yeah yeah yeah you could get it yeah charles oman oman yeah it doesn't

01:00:07.100 sound very english but he was a history professor at oxford all right the very end of the 19th

01:00:12.240 century early 20th century is that a multi-volume uh series yeah yeah well yeah he wrote on all

01:00:18.120 sorts of things so but particularly ones on just sort of uh an overview on the kings and queens and

01:00:22.960 things also um you know we're not particularly fans of churchill the politician here but he was a

01:00:28.380 great he was a great writer oh yeah he's got the history of the english-speaking peoples

01:00:32.840 and he's also superb in many volumes any others potentially more recent volumes that you know

01:00:38.540 you see you don't want to i said this recently you don't really want to read stuff recently

01:00:43.020 like someone like um neil ferguson nile ferguson someone like that they're not to be trusted

01:00:50.500 right they're not to be trusted read stuff that's pre-1960s read stuff that's pre-world war ii

01:00:58.140 i will say that's why i always recommend oman because it's it's actually pre-world war one

01:01:02.540 so there's no there's there's there's not a hint of anything sort of guilt i'd imagine it must be

01:01:08.740 quite patriotic in that case yeah well it's just straight down the line it's just this is what

01:01:13.000 happened yeah i will say it's unapologetic i have read one neil ferguson book and didn't think it was

01:01:19.080 that bad i thought his book on empire was all right very sneaky well still for a modern historian on

01:01:26.320 english history he poisoned he was in there trust me he is not the worst he's not the worst he's not

01:01:31.280 the worst okay carrying on that's a random name again spoke with a co-worker two years ago who

01:01:36.580 used to be in the canadian special forces told me with pride he had colleagues who were currently in

01:01:40.380 ukraine fighting the ruskies the west is playing with fire well it i suppose it depends if they're

01:01:47.120 there as canadian special forces or if they are being hired as independent mercenaries if they're

01:01:53.080 there as canadian's forces then yeah that is pretty dangerous wind pill seeker uh says perfect

01:01:59.160 time to recommend the exquisite series young starlin by bow on history bro yeah a true thug and an

01:02:05.560 action-packed bit of history intrigue and spycraft it's like a bond movie where the bad guys won

01:02:11.660 i don't show my channel enough there is a channel on youtube called history bro

01:02:15.560 it's pretty brilliant it's one of the best channels on youtube basically basically is what it is he's

01:02:21.920 pulling he's pulling the brow folks so he must be telling the truth and there's a i think a five

01:02:26.880 part or maybe it's more maybe it's an eight part series one of the early series i did all about

01:02:30.600 starlin from his earliest life through to uh the russian revolution so just that period of his life

01:02:36.860 which is action-packed he was a terrorist basically and on that i'm actually listening at the moment to

01:02:42.900 apostolic majesty series on um stalin's grand strategy from when he became basically dictator of the

01:02:50.440 soviet union through to the second world war do you appear on that in the second or third episode

01:02:55.260 of it no no i don't i don't think so oh i don't think so well that's a shame if you didn't but you

01:03:01.140 have appeared on his channel as well yeah yeah check out history bro yeah and am's on my channel once or

01:03:06.100 twice here or there but um yeah it's kind of someone who ever said that to mention that um if you are

01:03:10.940 interested in starlin's early life what made the man what by the by 1924 is it when lenin dies in

01:03:18.860 24 i think and starlin becomes the leader of the soviet union basically what made that person how is

01:03:24.220 he a monster now already at that point um i think that's an interesting thing to look at because i

01:03:29.220 think so is one of the most evil people ever to have lived wonderful would you like this for your

01:03:32.660 um can you just scroll down a bit or can i scroll down does that it never see okay all right all right

01:03:40.040 then so it feels like election fever has actually kicked in i don't know about you guys but in the

01:03:46.260 last few days or at some point this week i sort of felt like oh the election is actually here now

01:03:50.960 you know at christmas at some point in early or maybe mid-december you suddenly start feeling

01:03:54.600 christmassy i suddenly started feeling electiony it's suddenly getting real now because it's in early

01:04:01.160 november right so it's only like four five weeks away so it is upon us now it's only going to start

01:04:07.340 ramping up so you know i just thought we could talk about the donald a little bit

01:04:12.140 i need some noise i'd forgotten that you brought that with you i need that this is carl carl owns

01:04:20.420 this this isn't mine he's lent it to me he's stolen this um it's a great cap it's a great cap

01:04:26.480 tremendous wow what a great cap first time i saw this cap i said the best cap um because shield

01:04:33.440 the island i've got to shield the island real quick yeah yeah yeah here you go in your in your

01:04:37.800 maga hat go on now buy the islander it's it's a great magazine oh i'd better tell you i'm silly

01:04:44.720 that's crazy that's ridiculous buy the islander uh you can buy it on uh our website uh lotusseaters.com

01:04:51.140 uh second edition there's loads of really good people in it isn't there morgoth that alone is

01:04:56.440 worth buying it morgoth's brilliant you're in it yeah are you in this one carl benji i'm not i've been

01:05:01.880 the first one twice so they thought i'll take i'll take this one off i'll be in the next one we don't

01:05:05.120 want to overload i'll be in the next one dr parvini uh charlie cornishdale aka wren

01:05:12.260 um dave green stephan molyneux the stephan molyneux anyway it's good it's honestly really

01:05:19.580 good so buy that so we've got stephan molyneux and raw egg nationalists that's two egg-based

01:05:24.500 creators in there can't say fair enough okay chat want me to leave the hat come on don't give the

01:05:33.400 people what they want bo we're a bastion of democracy in a lawless world on this one younger

01:05:38.700 people in america wear them in the most ridiculous way i see people wearing hats like that right

01:05:45.600 that's how i went you really look like you should be catching pokemon in that yeah worn like you teach

01:05:50.600 me and i'll teach you gave way that i actually know the song

01:05:55.880 you're traveling across the lands bow searching far and wide stop stop stop stop that there's enough of

01:06:05.220 that yeah okay um okay let's talk about trump put up the first link i've got there ready um

01:06:11.460 so um trump's saying he trump is funny though right yeah he's always great people um so he

01:06:19.640 will just play this link let's just watch the whole this happened and we all saw what happened and we

01:06:25.200 see what happened kamala was a total disaster yesterday at every other interview she's been just

01:06:32.280 a free fall i don't know what the hell's going on she can't do an interview she doesn't want to do

01:06:37.140 them something's wrong let's just take a look let me just see we have a little video you know we

01:06:43.360 spend all the money on these screens we want to use them a little bit let's play it just for a second

01:06:47.740 thank you the kamala word of the day is clearly story it is your story and the story of our friends

01:06:58.040 before you is really that's the american story right in telling your story and being so strong

01:07:04.500 in the way you do it and both of these stories for you to tell these stories this story is a story that

01:07:12.080 is um sadly not the only story

01:07:15.920 it's unbelievable it's simply unbelievable it's like a child who learns one word and then they

01:07:26.100 struggle for the next thought and it never comes but maybe this daytime talk candidacy will work

01:07:33.040 it's all emotion but not a very good one certainly not an articulate one laura

01:07:37.940 anyway and being a bitch it supports this that's on that's on the jumbotron at a trump rally

01:07:43.600 so trump is just finding his favorite fox news clips from last night's broadcast

01:07:48.940 and playing them at his rallies yeah playing her tapes i just think it's funny that trump sort of

01:07:55.020 um fluid enough lucid enough to do that at a rally right can you imagine someone like joe biden

01:08:01.580 who is still the president yeah apparently apparently uh um somehow um but yeah let's play the next little

01:08:09.920 bit only i think from about where it is actually play that one and then no the next no the next one

01:08:17.500 the next one yeah play that former president donald trump is on the campaign trail in north carolina

01:08:23.180 looking to win over voters in the battleground state that's right earlier trump laid out some of

01:08:27.820 his plans to improve job growth but during his remarks he took a moment to issue a warning to

01:08:33.420 foreign leaders following a recent briefing about iran's ongoing threats to assassinate him

01:08:39.580 if i were the president i would inform the threatening country in this case iran that if you do anything to

01:08:46.700 harm this person we are going to blow your largest cities and the country itself to smithereens we're

01:08:54.060 going to blow it to smithereens you can't do that trump went on to say he did get in in 2016 by saying

01:09:04.540 crazy stuff right uh stuff that he didn't actually end up following up on all sorts of things well i

01:09:11.340 saw a lot of people complaining about that in particular that is very strong yeah well it's very

01:09:16.860 very strong it is very strong but up whole cities but that that was the rhetoric during his first term

01:09:21.980 as well if i remember this is this is why today he says that putin and uh uh and um gaza all of

01:09:29.020 these wars going on in the middle east and in eastern europe at the moment wouldn't have happened

01:09:33.260 under him because under his presidency he did talk tough yeah and he said that was a deterrent yeah

01:09:40.380 do you remember the name quesam soleimani remember that dude so he was head of the um iranian

01:09:47.900 uh what they called it the not the national guard the summit guard the um uh what's the word

01:09:53.420 public and garner thing wasn't it yeah yeah so in other words one of the most important guys in their

01:09:58.460 um security structure yeah and um trump did a a hit on him right they did a precision strike on his car

01:10:05.900 blew him to bits yeah and so the iranian establishment will never forget that right it's like having something

01:10:14.540 like uh one of your senior generals or the defense secretary or something killed by a foreign nation

01:10:20.220 like you don't ever forgive or forget that so sort of no wonder iran would want to assassinate trump um

01:10:30.620 islamic revolutionary guard right yeah so yeah that's sulaimani guy trump blew him to bits right so

01:10:37.180 no wonder they would want some sort of retribution for it um but that's the nature of being president is

01:10:42.940 that at some point your pentagon guys are going to come to you and say we advise that you do this

01:10:47.020 or that killing people there's no way to be president and keep your hands absolutely

01:10:54.220 stain free of blood but the language you use as well does appeal to a voter base

01:10:59.100 that doesn't have that much time to enter this nuanced complex arguments that you might have on

01:11:03.660 here and i'm not saying our arguments are nuanced here at all but when you're literally looking at a

01:11:07.900 soundbite on nbc or fox whatever it is that what was it they said um they they remember like one or

01:11:13.900 two words from each speech he gives don't they like people remember starmer saying sausages don't

01:11:18.220 they they don't remember anything else he said but they remember him saying rescue the sausages

01:11:21.820 and and it's that kind of thing so when you say something dynamic like that you remember that one

01:11:25.180 thing like he says something about kamala or whatever and people remember that one thing

01:11:28.380 and that's why he does it because it connects it links a lot of this stuff doesn't otherwise

01:11:32.460 yeah so but i mean it's it's quite bellicose i quite like it um that's fresh um i mean i'm no

01:11:39.660 i'm not a fan of of the israeli government don't take that but yeah i really don't like the iranian

01:11:45.660 regime yeah many people do i don't yeah i'm not i don't think iranians are that best pleased right

01:11:51.260 yeah yeah so the mullahs of tehran yeah i'm glad trump's bellicose against them perhaps uh or did he say

01:11:58.140 um annihilating cities or something what did he say yeah yeah um i mean that's smithereens blowing

01:12:05.660 blowing whole cities to smithereens that is a bit bit crazy yeah but he doesn't he's not

01:12:10.940 he's not he's just yeah i know i know that's the intent isn't it because we're in that's what i'm

01:12:14.620 saying we're in election mode yeah of course we are we're it's election fever time all right it's

01:12:20.380 great yeah um put more kamala on there because that's what that's what the americans need to see

01:12:24.860 this is what you're going to get next five years with kamala just let us speak let us speak

01:12:28.780 imagine if you've got someone like kamala or gavin newsom or aoc or someone they wouldn't say something

01:12:33.740 like in a million years would they that's the best they've got now isn't it yeah gavin newson imagine

01:12:39.900 my goodness let's move on to trump on immigration um the next the next link something is oh there you go

01:12:47.660 so the huff po thinks that even the word remigration is completely beyond the pale using

01:12:58.460 the word remigration let alone the concept just using the word itself is absolutely fascist well

01:13:04.780 as a fascist wait so so when as part of evil as when as part of the post-world war ii agreements that we

01:13:10.780 have with the soviet union we re-migrated deported all of the so all of the russians back to russia

01:13:18.220 who were in the west at that point even the ones who we knew were going to get killed was that because

01:13:22.140 were we fascist at the time because i thought we probably beat the fascists i think we are

01:13:26.060 it doesn't need to make any sense anymore does it everything's fast they just use these words someone

01:13:30.060 at the huffington post yeah they're not interested in historical facts or things that make sense now

01:13:37.260 or anything like racist isn't it everything's racist everything's fascist trump said something

01:13:41.180 and there's a slight window to call him hitler so let's do that yeah exactly that this is sort of

01:13:48.060 this is the word of the day isn't it it's the man um uh yeah if you scroll down a little bit further

01:13:53.900 you'll see uh yeah read that let's read that tweet trump put as president i'll immediately end the

01:13:59.100 migrant invasion of america we will stop all migrant flights and all illegal entries terminate the kamala

01:14:04.860 phone app for smuggling illegals revoke deportation immunity suspend refugee resettlement and return

01:14:11.020 kamala's illegal migrants to their home countries also known as re-migration i will save our cities and

01:14:16.060 towns in minnesota wisconsin michigan pennsylvania north carolina and all across america maga 2024

01:14:23.100 um yeah good how do you do it though yeah you are that you are the poster boy how do you

01:14:29.100 me re-migrate people um it's actually much easier than people yeah it's much easier than people make

01:14:36.540 it sound really well yeah they could do it i mean they re-migrated all of those migrants that were sent

01:14:41.500 to martha's vineyard in a day so it's actually very easy it's just whether those in the political

01:14:47.660 establishment have the desire to do so they can in america anyway a strong president if he controls

01:14:53.980 congress and the senate um could pass legislation you know things like the patriot act for example

01:14:59.740 springs to mind well they're sort of saying here's a piece of law but what it actually says is we can

01:15:05.900 do anything we want right you can pass laws that say that that say oh no we're going to give the power

01:15:11.420 to uh um ice ice yeah probably the people do or homeland yeah or or whatever or the fbi or whoever

01:15:20.220 saying no if we want to deport you we're going to deport you so why are we why why is this migrant

01:15:24.300 thing hitting all these western nations at the same time just because our leaders want it yeah but

01:15:27.900 why do they want it what is it about so is it is it about boosting gdp obviously not per capita but

01:15:32.060 well i might be a bit to do with that my looting the national it might be um genuine true believers for

01:15:38.620 the ideology of multicultural globalism do we really believe that because there has to be a unifying

01:15:43.420 reason i think there are some true believers uh i think there's also just malicious reasons for it

01:15:48.860 i remember i remember are we allowed to say katie hopkins yeah yeah well okay remember i don't know

01:15:53.980 katie hopkins she was um when she was daily mail she was talking about the save the children boat

01:15:57.660 boats wasn't she from italy that went to italy to pick up migrants to bring them back so it was safer

01:16:01.900 than letting them try and come across and then the save the children boats put these obviously

01:16:05.580 migrants there put them all across europe because it was the the most well the most efficient way of

01:16:09.580 making a lot of money at one time was the movement of people so i guess there's people that are

01:16:13.740 making a lot of money i'm not saying politicians i'm saying that people move politicians are

01:16:17.660 properly making well i guess channels through it yeah it is a very very salient perhaps the

01:16:23.100 most salient question why why are we not answered it yet i can understand the north stream thing

01:16:28.300 because all right people are going to obfuscate and everything but this is not difficult there's

01:16:31.900 got to be a reason why we're flooding flooding all the countries with these people it's got to be

01:16:35.180 something to do with gdp as well as the cultural marxism of course i think it is more ideology

01:16:39.900 that they see something something conservatives when you was a conservative government

01:16:43.820 they're not well they won't conservative but i know they weren't but yeah but you know someone

01:16:46.700 like secretary mayorkas or or here somebody like keir starmer i think they do buy into the idea the

01:16:53.820 very idea that um someone like robin d'angelo sure we'll say that there's something wrong with

01:17:03.020 whiteness there's something wrong with western civilization western civilization itself is a terrible

01:17:08.940 thing and should be dismantled i shouldn't be allowed to be the mindset leader or the hegemon

01:17:14.860 of the world in any way it should be prevented from doing that all right one way to do it is to

01:17:19.020 dilute the very population i mean it sounds crazy right but it's in their own words

01:17:26.140 they say they're doing uh the the frankfurt school developed a lot of it back in the uh 40s and uh been

01:17:32.940 implemented in many many different forms essentially as a bulwark against fascism there's the idea that

01:17:39.020 if you let a european country stay its own to maintain its own demographics so germany stays a

01:17:47.420 german nation it stays an english nation that this will just inherently breed fascism and imperialism

01:17:54.460 and so these populations need to be diluted to prevent that there's an answer america though

01:17:59.100 why it's happening in america japan's got uh immigration issues isn't it japan it's started

01:18:03.740 it's an interesting phenomenon yeah it's just interesting phenomena never used to yeah it used

01:18:07.980 to be a homogenous society isn't it but now it's so it doesn't answer america why america's doing

01:18:11.820 and this is the thing all i'm saying is there has to be a reason somewhere and i don't understand what

01:18:14.700 it is why why allows it didn't happen a decade ago well a decade plus and even pushing it as hard

01:18:19.740 as they possibly can in places like sweden or ireland but so it's weird it's okay hotels putting

01:18:26.060 people in they're giving them money to be here and stuff like we want to give them cash do we want

01:18:30.060 them to integrate we want them to get jobs and work and is that the reason that we're boosting gdp

01:18:34.060 because of the low birth rates i mean this is you guys should you should guys should just have this

01:18:38.220 you should put people on here and work this out you know that's it i'm working well i'm working on

01:18:42.780 something for that but it's a lot of research right and i've not got around to writing maybe you're

01:18:47.420 going to leave on a bit with some of these links so um well it's just there's more on trump and

01:18:52.300 remigration uh where he was on the phone to a fox news reporter just saying a lot of the things he

01:18:56.940 said in the tweet saying i will i will finish the wall and i'll reverse the 1.3 million people kamala

01:19:02.700 basically let in it's crazy the last three years i'm just going to send them home send them home

01:19:07.100 basically um uh play the link where it says bbc the bbc on trump so um so of course the sort of lefty

01:19:15.500 establishment media going crazy that trump sort of dare mention uh you know um it's funny to just

01:19:23.580 watch some spurg out uh where you know an actual leader uh talking about policies that don't lead

01:19:30.300 as fast as possible to our destruction as a as a people or as nations um or even the the new republic

01:19:38.780 the next link if you want to quickly click on the next link get rid of that um it's a it's terrifying

01:19:45.900 it's a terrifying new plan i think cleansing uh yeah it's ethnic cleansing they have no

01:19:51.100 they just go immediately to the top tier of the most that's the next thing

01:19:55.820 not having your country flooded with infinite venezuelans or mexicans or in our case bangladesh's

01:20:01.340 and somalis or whatever it is not having your country flooded with them as fast as possible

01:20:05.180 is ethnic cleansing well make it make sense it's it's clearly the first step in a multi-step plan

01:20:11.980 to invade mexico for some reason they were asked about this weren't they at a biden press conference

01:20:19.500 well actually it was um biden's press secretary i can't remember her name now diversity higher lady

01:20:24.140 black lady can't remember oh corinne pierre thingy bob oh not that one she did the darbo thing where the

01:20:30.300 one of the um journalists said um do you not think you know two assassination attempts on trump do you

01:20:34.380 not think when you say that trump is a threat to democracy this is causing people to try and take

01:20:39.100 him out and she turned it around and said well i think your language is threatening actually yeah

01:20:42.300 yeah i'm going to do a youtube thing because it was so 180 out straight away so they language is so

01:20:46.860 important to them and they manipulate it so well i saw that clue and i thought that's so dumb

01:20:51.740 that's like when a seven-year-old is trying to argue with a parent yeah yeah like the the the

01:20:56.620 rationale not eating their greens or going to bed early or something like no you're yeah you're forcing me to

01:21:01.980 do it yeah yeah you're making me do this yeah it's crazy excited um okay so that's the trump side of

01:21:08.780 the equation um so kamala luckily we're running out of time because what i actually had lined up here

01:21:13.900 was all sorts of um examples of just her cringe her endless cringe train uh she went as someone

01:21:21.660 mentioned earlier she's done very very few interviews or appearances since she became the

01:21:25.740 candidate i think as of about eight days ago she'd done one but um she's done one or two more since

01:21:30.700 there anyway she went on oprah because of course it's the easiest softball wherever you're going

01:21:34.780 to get going kamala going on oprah and like every time every time she appears in public it is she's

01:21:40.940 just like a cackling witch it's just a cringe fest it's just an absolute cringe fest uh won't even

01:21:45.980 bother because we are running out of time won't even just look at me i mean she's so obnoxious no one

01:21:51.580 likes her no she hasn't done anything she hasn't done anything it's like she hasn't done anything

01:21:56.220 the last three and a half years and now she's promising to do stuff she had the opportunity

01:21:58.860 to do whenever did has she been asked what her actual policies are she hasn't he no oprah didn't

01:22:03.340 really push that they haven't got any she hasn't got anything and once or twice when they do ask her

01:22:07.500 like they had a well someone in the audience asked her about policy and she just rambled on just

01:22:11.500 gish gash just a word salad nonsense i assume the policies then i will simply be a continuation of

01:22:17.100 the biden administration policies whatever the biden handlers were telling biden they'll just be

01:22:22.220 telling her that now because she's part of the same administration so and she's been saying that

01:22:26.860 oh we're going to turn the country around you're part of the reason i know she's a terrible issue

01:22:30.780 with it that's gonna it's absolutely really undo what i didn't do and i did have some clips just

01:22:34.940 compilations of her saying the same things over and over again like being unburdened by what has been

01:22:40.220 but it's so obnoxious she said that hasn't she i have to be unburdened by what i know it's obviously

01:22:46.300 a soundbite like story she's got a few others of the yeah like keep saying sorry she's got a couple

01:22:50.780 others of them like talking about how she grew up in a middle-class family right i'm from a

01:22:55.100 middle-class family have you worked out where she's she's either black or she kept flip-flopping

01:22:59.260 between the two didn't she sometimes she does a black voice like an urban black voice and that's

01:23:03.340 what she's when she plays that down right very sort of mid-atlantic when she's in georgia or alabama

01:23:09.660 all of us does that from the hood all right yeah yeah yeah well one of the last things i'll have to end

01:23:15.260 on was for me was where i she flipped for me from being just a completely phony and obnoxious

01:23:24.300 cackling witch to someone of pure evil all right on the one year anniversary of january 6th right

01:23:31.500 um she came out and played this from the beginning it's only the first 40 40 seconds i want to play

01:23:35.660 samson oh no use the mouse use the mouse it never really works i've got one here mouse walls there

01:23:44.940 we go there we go i've got it i've got it there we go from the beginning they often ask about the

01:23:49.580 beginning of our democracy about january 6. certain dates echo throughout history including dates that

01:23:59.900 instantly remind all who have lived through them where they were and what they were doing

01:24:07.580 when our democracy came under assault she's in serious mode dates that occupy not only a place

01:24:14.860 on our calendars but a place in our collective memory december 7th 1941 september 11th 2001

01:24:26.860 and january 6th i was waiting for that what a disgusting thing to say go on and watch it

01:24:36.060 it gets worse she gets indignant she gets a bit angry it's like you piece of how you work so so the

01:24:42.220 first one was an actual declaration of war against the country the second one is essentially the same

01:24:47.580 thing both you know mass casualty events january 6th yeah which was a mass trespass event i wrote an

01:24:55.580 article what is it a couple years ago now kamala's fever dream where i talked about this i said it

01:24:59.500 it's sort of stuck in my craw really that she's sort of spitting in the face of america's war dead

01:25:05.180 yeah stomping on the face of her own war dead i read a quick excerpt from it i said uh i suspect

01:25:12.140 international embarrassment kamala harris hasn't spent much time or energy reading accounts from that

01:25:16.860 morning in 1941 i.e the japanese sneak attack on pearl um i suspect she hasn't listened to many of the

01:25:23.500 survivors eyewitness testimonies i suspect uh she even revels in their loss and trauma as they

01:25:29.100 were nearly all straight white males i suspect harris holds their pain in extremely low regard

01:25:33.980 she must do how else can she hear the accounts of trapped and doomed men knocking on the bulkheads

01:25:39.660 and half-sunk ships or the burn victims whose whitened flesh simply sloughed away from their bones

01:25:45.740 or men who were blown into tiny chunks how can she equate that with the trespass

01:25:49.980 of january 6th the only explanation is that she cares nothing for the truth she cares nothing for

01:25:55.420 the victims and the survivors of pearl harbor she cares nothing for us history she cares nothing for

01:26:00.140 those among us who see through her sickening narrative she is happy to look us in the face

01:26:05.180 and gaslight us in the most appalling way possible i'll go on and on to say read it it's a good article

01:26:10.140 go on and on and on just to uh say that they're divorcing themselves from reality divorcing themselves

01:26:16.540 from history being unburdened by what has been very very deliberately because for their liars to

01:26:21.820 work for their narrative to work relies on people not knowing history properly you know the idea that

01:26:27.340 pearl harbor you can equate pearl harbor or 9 11 with january the 6th that only works if you don't know

01:26:33.180 anything about pearl harbor or january 6th yeah yeah of course of course right yeah absolutely don't want

01:26:38.060 you to yeah that's the only way that disgusting liar can work um and once a people are divorced from

01:26:45.900 their history then they're just like a piece of driftwood they could be absolutely they could be

01:26:52.780 anything you want them to be now yeah yeah true you can lie to them endlessly egregiously and they've

01:26:58.380 got no way to say oh that doesn't make sense those two things don't equate because you've robbed them of

01:27:05.100 their history their past and their heritage so that that thing she keeps saying of being unburdened

01:27:10.060 by what has been is actually extremely pernicious it's evil and thought it like that yeah it's good

01:27:14.940 so she's not just an annoying dei hire she's evil bonhoeffer theory isn't it evil people are predictable

01:27:22.940 but the stupid ones you've got to really watch out for them so hopefully we can sadly we're led by

01:27:27.900 stupid evil people um and with that i think we should uh finish up i'll read some of this samson do we

01:27:34.860 have any video comments um yeah okay i'm actually recording something after yeah i don't think

01:27:44.780 we've got much time to run over so i'll read through these rumble rants and we'll go through one or two

01:27:49.020 of the video comments so uh that's a random name again thank you very much says hats in america work

01:27:54.140 the same way they do in mario games putting a hat on gives you powers the maga hat gives you extra

01:27:59.100 charisma and allows you to catch illegal aliens in your pokeball true story i swear so you might want to

01:28:04.460 keep that hat close at all times bald eagle 1787 if you watched that kamala interview you can even

01:28:09.660 see oprah was uncomfortable with the rambling and incoherent sentences i can believe that

01:28:14.300 that's a random name uh does these next two so a lot of the ngos bringing barbarians in a

01:28:19.660 financed by soros and co this is actually true gdp go up is the reason they give but in actuality

01:28:24.540 it's to replace voters and prevent any european ethnostates they say it openly and also step one

01:28:29.740 destroy opposition by dividing the population via mass migration step two use the chaos to grab more

01:28:34.380 power or justify more power step three implement agenda 2020 30 2030 net zero etc the wef is trying

01:28:42.780 to order 66 us thank you very much for your comments there that's a random name let's watch

01:28:46.700 some of these video comments

01:28:53.740 i need to re-watch these frames

01:29:04.300 uh

01:29:16.700 who makes it very well oh no it's meat free no oh good god richmond what are you doing thank you

01:29:26.780 samson move on to the next one guns so it turns out the oldest outdoors channel on youtube is housed

01:29:34.700 right there on the island with you field sports britain just celebrated their 15 year anniversary

01:29:42.060 they are explicitly not a political channel but they do feel the effects of politics and i think there's

01:29:50.060 room for a fruitful collaboration if you're interested sit down

01:29:59.900 interesting thank you any more

01:30:02.140 you remember this outfit do you well it turns out that this is honorary doctorate regalia

01:30:13.100 which this man has been awarded by our one of the top universities technology university of konas

01:30:21.660 in 2017. so anyway here's some medical misinformation for you according to pinterest

01:30:28.300 massage your diaphragm line to calm down

01:30:35.340 so matt massage the diaphragm line of your foot to calm your tits

01:30:39.500 okay i'll keep that in mind

01:30:44.780 regarding the discussion the other day of what constitutes an ideology i think i have a working

01:30:48.540 theory to me an ideology is a totalizing worldview which is a construct of pure hyper-rational reason

01:30:53.740 this is juxtaposed with almost every other system of ideas which rational or irrational is still made

01:30:58.540 up of a contingent morality predicated on observations of external reality this is actually

01:31:03.020 why i don't consider religion to be an ideology because it's a pre-scientific attempt to negotiate

01:31:07.900 and identify the true nature of external reality which makes it a contingent moral system kind of a

01:31:12.620 wordy musing but hey food for thought keep your stick in the ice i think that's actually a very

01:31:18.300 reasonable explanation of it and what you're describing is there is what i would call pure

01:31:22.300 ideology because you can be ideological still integrate it with the actual real world uh but

01:31:27.340 yeah that's pretty good definition california native flower friday so today guys we're gonna

01:31:32.860 look at anemone occidentalis which is a really interesting one because the flower is pretty and

01:31:37.900 all but what's really cool is when it goes to seed and it looks like this so these are just the seeds

01:31:46.140 with what's called an achene on it i learned about this just five seconds ago and it's typical of

01:31:52.140 buttercups i don't know if others are like this but to me this looks like something out of a fantasy

01:31:57.180 video game yeah look very nice yeah i like that need some more flowers hey guys i'm working on a

01:32:06.460 sequel to my first novel final flight of the reineger go and grab it cscooper.com.au uh but yeah i'm

01:32:12.860 working on a sequel and i'm sort of developing the philosophy for it and really sort of gravitating

01:32:18.220 toward aristotle's philosophy uh have you guys done at any point a crash course on aristotle or

01:32:27.020 if not could you point me to one and are you planning to make one in the future

01:32:31.740 i'm pretty sure stelios on content and not one place what was it called symposium

01:32:36.300 stelios is symposium i'm pretty sure he talked about aristotle i think it was aristotle's ethics

01:32:42.700 stelios and i did a two-part video on aristotle's politics the politics um okay i think carl has spoken

01:32:48.140 about aristotle as well possibly on the website but i don't know if he's done any sort of crash course

01:32:52.940 stelios and i on the symposium kind of did a very short uh short being like two hours long

01:32:59.500 overview of what can be found in the politics although we were nowhere near comprehensive

01:33:05.820 because that is a very thick book and aristotle has a lot of writing and i can understand the

01:33:12.380 appeal for a crash course we might have to do something like that because aristotle is very dry

01:33:16.620 yeah yeah very very dry yeah but uh uh we'll think about doing something like also bo have you

01:33:22.940 actually sent anything into cs cooper yet because i know he wants to see about publishing a book not

01:33:27.580 yet no i'm working on it though you need to i'm working on it you need to hopefully in the next

01:33:32.780 we'll still be weeks away but it's gonna happen well i've said that like i've said that on camera now

01:33:37.980 so it's got to no uh no i'm working on it i'm working hold you to it but being a purely democratic

01:33:44.060 system that we are at of course we need to hold you accountable uh anyway thank you all very very

01:33:49.420 much for tuning into this episode of the podcast lotus eaters i hope you've bought your islander so

01:33:54.300 far if you've not bought your islander since the beginning of this podcast and now i will find you

01:33:59.020 and i will leave it at that and uh if you're in the gold to um if you're a gold subscriber uh tune in

01:34:05.580 in a few minutes 25 26 minutes for the gold tier zoom call and i will talk with you and so will carl

01:34:11.580 anyway thank you very much thank you tim thank you and uh take care

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