The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1038

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to the podcast of The Lotus Seaters, episode 1038, for today, Friday, the 8th of November, 2024.

00:00:07.940 I am joined by Carl and Ralph. Good to see you back, sir.

00:00:11.400 Great to be back.

00:00:12.140 Yeah, it's been far too long since you've been in the UK.

00:00:14.120 We've all been jubilant for the last few days, so it's actually going to be a pretty encouraging podcast.

00:00:18.220 We're going to be talking about how all the illegals decided to vote for Trump, for some reason,

00:00:21.520 Kamala's Reddit army, because they're a hideous horde who won't accept the results of the election,

00:00:25.720 and how the rest is Trump, a.k.a. how Rory Stewart got literally everything wrong.

00:00:30.080 We're going to explain that in excruciating detail to the Elliot Page impersonator himself.

00:00:35.980 Is it? Okay, well, I've got a poppy on, so there we go.

00:00:38.800 I'm just going to keep animating.

00:00:40.000 Apparently it's blocked by the mic, though, but...

00:00:41.920 No problem.

00:00:42.680 Anyway, at three o'clock today, because it's a Friday, we have got Lads Hour,

00:00:46.300 and we'll be going through all of the libs crying, coping, and seething during the election.

00:00:50.500 I know that we don't usually indulge in schadenfreude on this podcast, but...

00:00:54.760 Just this once. It'll be great.

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00:00:59.000 Not just to support us, but so you can watch it live and send in your comments and questions.

00:01:02.700 But, without further away, Carl, take it away.

00:01:05.780 So, in America, as we speak, right now, there is an army of 13,000 convicted murderers just roaming free.

00:01:13.200 This is something that has been well documented and is well known.

00:01:16.880 This is not something that I'm extrapolating.

00:01:22.100 This is completely understood by the Immigrations and Customs Enforcement and various other agencies that track this sort of stuff.

00:01:29.760 In total, there are 435,000 known criminals wandering free in America.

00:01:36.480 Well, known criminals as in having prior criminal convictions before breaking in.

00:01:41.540 Having been convicted of a crime in their home countries, having crossed the border illegally,

00:01:47.900 having engaged with ICE, and then been let free to wander around in the United States.

00:01:53.620 Yeah.

00:01:53.780 So, you can add that number to the existing 10 million that we also know went in under Biden and Harris.

00:01:59.580 Yes.

00:01:59.960 So, there are at least 10.5 million illegals slash known foreign criminals that came in in the last four years that now Trump has to deal with.

00:02:10.200 Yes.

00:02:10.440 And, like I said, of those, we know that nearly half a million are convicted criminals, and at least 13,000 are convicted murderers.

00:02:18.800 So, that's concerning.

00:02:20.000 A lot of people are worried about that.

00:02:21.260 And, it's not just legal citizens in the United States who are worried about that.

00:02:26.300 It's also illegal aliens who are worried about that.

00:02:29.160 Because, I mean, you know, you probably saw these guys as you were coming in, and you're like,

00:02:32.100 Oh, God.

00:02:33.380 That's worrying.

00:02:34.380 You know, I was just coming for a better life with my children.

00:02:37.780 That guy seems to be a lunatic, you know.

00:02:40.320 And so, Trump, for quite some time, has been promising mass deportations.

00:02:44.520 This was one of the core pillars of his campaign that he ran on.

00:02:47.520 And, of course, when the victory comes in, they're like, are you really going to deport millions of people?

00:02:53.880 It's like, pfft, yeah.

00:02:55.320 There's going to be no price tag on it.

00:02:56.800 We're literally going to spend as much as it takes to just boot out millions of people.

00:03:01.020 Well, the price tag on keeping them in and keeping the incentives so that record numbers of illegals come in every year has actually been totaled for 2023.

00:03:09.300 It's $150 billion.

00:03:11.900 Really?

00:03:12.260 That's interesting.

00:03:12.980 It's very, not, ours, thankfully, isn't quite that high, because we don't have a land border with Mexico.

00:03:18.500 But, yeah, it just costs billions and billions and billions.

00:03:21.540 Yeah, so you could, I don't know, conscript the entire Ryanair fleet into deporting all these people,

00:03:26.840 and it would cost far less and be done over a series of maybe a couple of years and save you loads of money.

00:03:32.800 That might be nice.

00:03:33.480 Well, you can, you won't be surprised to hear this, but the liberal media doesn't agree with that analysis.

00:03:41.260 They think that, in fact, they make us money.

00:03:44.300 That's because GDP is factored into government spending, the other way around.

00:03:47.600 So the more the GDP goes up is only because you're spending more money on illegals.

00:03:51.340 So as long as the line goes up, including the line of murders, that's fine.

00:03:54.920 Any thoughts on what should happen to the illegals?

00:03:58.220 Well, I think the first thing that I believe Trump should do is he should toss out the whole inauguration and, you know, January 20th stuff.

00:04:04.200 He should go down to the southern border, kind of swear on the Bible there, and then start doing what he promised to do.

00:04:10.360 I mean, there is the expectations for this Trump presidency are significantly higher than they were for the 2016 presidency.

00:04:16.640 And I don't want to use this because young people might be watching this show as well.

00:04:20.000 So karma may not be the B word, if I try to be politically correct.

00:04:23.800 But the possibilities he has now are so much larger than they would have been if he would have won re-election or if they would have granted him re-election.

00:04:32.620 That's probably the proper term in 2020, because now he has a much more idiosyncratic team.

00:04:39.740 He has some really interesting thinkers in his team.

00:04:42.540 Some names are known, like, you know, whether it's Robert F. Kennedy or Elon Musk.

00:04:45.600 But there are some other people as well who I think are quite interesting.

00:04:48.180 And now he must create the conditions for them also to be successful.

00:04:52.060 So there are two things. One is the deportation of illegals out of the country.

00:04:56.140 But the other thing is the deportation, let's put it this way, of unreliable bureaucrats out of government.

00:05:02.860 Because the big problem, we talked about this on the show previously, is you can have all the best people in leading position.

00:05:08.520 If the entire bureaucracy is working against you, as he did in the first Trump administration from the State Department downwards to all the other departments,

00:05:16.080 he needs to do that as well.

00:05:17.300 So dust off the whole project to 2025 and, you know, implement as much as you can.

00:05:22.960 Did you see that all the libs were, including for Axios and Rolling Stone, crying about the fact that Matt Walsh joked,

00:05:28.560 now that we've won, can we tell them it's real?

00:05:30.620 And they thought a man known for trolling them in two very popular documentaries,

00:05:36.160 whose profile photo is still him in disguise trolling Robin DiAngelo, wasn't trolling.

00:05:42.080 But what you can do is revive Schedule F and sack 50,000 federal employees on day one, and that would be fun.

00:05:47.520 And I'm actually rather optimistic about this, because Elon Musk is going to be the person presiding over this,

00:05:52.980 and he has a concrete history of firing people who are useless and are against what he's trying to achieve.

00:05:59.820 Stephen Miller, as well, is still in control of immigration policy.

00:06:02.520 He wasn't in the first couple of years when Trump and the Republicans had the House and didn't do enough with it.

00:06:07.180 He was after they lost the House and when they implemented the Remain in Mexico policy.

00:06:10.960 And so because of the shenanigans in 2020, the fortification, because Trump has had four years in the wilderness,

00:06:18.320 he's shored up his defenses, got his allies, they've had time to sit down and think,

00:06:22.040 and he's kept Stephen Miller not only running his campaign, but helping out with immigration policy.

00:06:26.040 So they'll have all this stuff to go on day one.

00:06:27.880 Yeah, but of course, the administrative state, it will strike back.

00:06:30.940 I mean, we just saw, I think, a couple of hours ago that Jerome Powell said that even if Trump would ask him,

00:06:35.960 he would not resign. I mean, it's a minor indicator.

00:06:38.720 Yeah, he said, even if Trump would ask him to resign, he wouldn't do it as the head of the Federal Reserve.

00:06:43.500 Bookmark this, right? They will use, just like they did Liz Truss,

00:06:46.700 the Fed will use interest rates to support his tariff agenda and blame the hangover of Biden's inflation on Trump.

00:06:52.640 Just as they would have done the opposite if Harris would have won the election.

00:06:55.440 So this is going to be, this will, on the upside, of course, that's the great thing.

00:06:59.080 This has always, for me, been the great thing about Donald Trump.

00:07:01.820 Like, there are so many politicians, and I think in the UK it's the same, right?

00:07:04.700 They go into politics as, quote-unquote, middle-class individuals, and then they come out as rich individuals.

00:07:09.860 You know, kind of the Obama phenomenon.

00:07:11.060 But you go in there as a community organizer, and now you're a Netflix star that has written, what, like six biographies of himself.

00:07:16.360 I've never known a man who wrote so many books about himself.

00:07:19.280 I think his wife and I has written, like, three about herself.

00:07:21.860 There's not a single one of us, by the way, so I think it's time that we should also start writing our biographies.

00:07:25.960 But he, like, for financial means, Trump doesn't need to be the president.

00:07:29.980 It's probably good for him to stay out of jail, because this is the next thing.

00:07:33.360 They will try it again, I would believe, after 2028.

00:07:36.880 But also people like Elon Musk.

00:07:39.680 They don't, like, Musk is not, oh my God, if I can work with the government, I'll be poor.

00:07:43.920 So they really have an independence that other politicians didn't have before that.

00:07:47.580 So they need to push through their, what some would call radical agenda, but I think we would call it the common sense agenda.

00:07:54.000 The reason why Trump won, and I'm sure we're going to get to this, is because if you look at his politics, I mean, all of this was common sense.

00:08:00.220 The absurdity is this.

00:08:01.720 You look at the programs.

00:08:03.200 You look at what they say.

00:08:04.420 You look at the kind of the closing events.

00:08:07.860 I mean, if you have Cardi B on the stage, if you have, you know, what was it, Megan Thee, Thee Stallion, you know, kind of all this.

00:08:14.840 This, they, as much as they might think they do, they don't speak for a majority of America.

00:08:19.440 These are kudos to their success as artists, but overall, they are weirdos.

00:08:24.380 Much more, I would say, than somebody like, you know, Lee Greenwald, you know, singing, you know, God bless America, I'm proud to be an American.

00:08:32.160 Or even Hulk Hogan, when he comes on with his, you know, walking stick and stuff.

00:08:35.440 But that's, it's cheesy, but it's American.

00:08:38.000 Much more than.

00:08:38.600 But it's also totally mainstream.

00:08:40.360 Exactly.

00:08:41.380 It's just like showing yourself at a McDonald's or showing yourself on a garbage truck.

00:08:44.940 Like, I mean, these things, you can really say everything the mainstream media or the liberal media is hyperventilating about is probably good or is perceived quite well by at least 51% of the population.

00:08:55.340 It's precisely what we saw.

00:08:56.480 The McDonald's stunt was incredible.

00:08:58.460 Never seen anything like it.

00:08:59.440 And he just says, because it's so, I'm sorry to interrupt you, it's so authentic.

00:09:03.000 You see him doing it and say, this is really that, like, this, like, he does not say, the focus group told me if I hand this person the fries, then I have to look like this and say this.

00:09:12.680 It's him.

00:09:13.800 And then you have the media come out and say, well, like, fact check, Donald Trump does not work at a McDonald's.

00:09:19.440 Like, you don't say.

00:09:20.960 You don't say.

00:09:21.700 What I particularly liked about that is you would never see someone like Hillary Clinton, Obama, or Kamala Harris doing the same thing.

00:09:29.200 Because they fundamentally perceive McDonald's as a low-status job.

00:09:32.820 They see McDonald's as ignoble.

00:09:34.780 Whereas Donald Trump says, no, it's a perfectly noble job.

00:09:38.020 And I'm going to, here we go, have some fries.

00:09:40.000 I eat McDonald's all the time.

00:09:41.540 Blah, blah, blah.

00:09:41.900 But, you know, it's like Donald Trump hasn't got this pretension that they're trying to essentially lay on him.

00:09:48.320 And that's why it worked so well.

00:09:49.940 In 2004, John Kerry and his wife, what was her name?

00:09:55.340 Teresa Hines.

00:09:56.520 They went to, I think, a Chile.

00:09:58.240 So, you know, one of these, or was it a Carl's Jr., one of these places.

00:10:02.520 And you could see them ordering, I think it was a Frosty and something else.

00:10:06.060 And you could see the awkwardness, right?

00:10:08.440 Because before their campaign, they never set foot into a fast food restaurant, into a fast food chain.

00:10:14.720 And that seemed like Elizabeth Warren trying to open a beer.

00:10:17.060 Yes.

00:10:17.720 Or Tim Walz trying to load a shotgun, right?

00:10:21.600 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:10:22.220 Or the football coach posting about football stuff where you say, this guy has never played a game of football in the entire life.

00:10:29.440 There were revealing moments about Trump's authenticity on the campaign trail.

00:10:32.540 Obviously, it was the McDonald's bit where the guy drives up and goes, I'm just an ordinary guy.

00:10:36.000 And he's going, you're not ordinary at all.

00:10:37.700 Yes.

00:10:38.060 Genuinely thinks that all of his supporters are extraordinary.

00:10:41.040 But the other one was when he was still president, when he was walking over to the helicopter and a Marine's hat just blew off.

00:10:47.600 And he walked after it, chased it down and just gave it back to him.

00:10:50.100 Most people would ignore it.

00:10:51.220 He actually does care.

00:10:52.780 But it's these small things.

00:10:54.320 Like when he was at the McDonald's, pointing out that his fingers weren't touching the fries as he was losing.

00:10:59.040 Again, it's such a small thing.

00:11:01.060 But only if you had already previously thought about this would you mention something like that.

00:11:05.460 It can't be faked.

00:11:06.700 But anyway, so there are Latino, or Latin, I'll just call them, Republican activists in Texas.

00:11:13.300 Because there are a lot of Hispanics in Texas.

00:11:15.840 And one of them says, well, he's not meaning to go and deport every family that crosses the border.

00:11:21.280 He just means to deport the criminals and sex offenders.

00:11:23.900 So what I love about this is that Trump's agenda is so obviously the correct agenda.

00:11:28.180 That even the people who are going to be affected by the agenda are like, yeah, he probably should do that.

00:11:33.200 Well, I also like the presumption that, I think there was like a Netflix show about this where they, as soon as Trump became president, I think it was 13 reasons why, don't ask me why I've watched this.

00:11:42.160 But in the second season, they made the Hispanic character in the first season who's really good.

00:11:45.880 Immediately his entire family are illegal migrants.

00:11:48.080 And it's the default assumption by all these progressive activists is, why did you Hispanics vote for Donald Trump?

00:11:53.120 He's going to deport you too.

00:11:53.900 And all the Hispanics are like, gringo.

00:11:55.540 Citizen, what are you talking about?

00:11:57.100 Are you calling me a rapist?

00:11:58.200 Like, why do you presume that?

00:12:01.000 So anyway, yeah, Trump stands by this.

00:12:03.780 He says, look, there's no price tag on this.

00:12:05.380 It doesn't matter how much it costs.

00:12:07.600 We want to make the border strong and powerful.

00:12:09.640 And we want people, we still want people to come to the country, just controlled migration, which a lot of people take issue with.

00:12:15.320 But I think the important thing to remember is America is a much bigger country than ours.

00:12:18.740 And it's not in the same place as we are.

00:12:20.380 But one thing I really like is the Independent gives us the stock liberal response to this, where they say, using the full force of federal, state and local law enforcement agencies to identify, detain and deport millions of people living in the US without legal permission could cost more than $967 billion over 10 years.

00:12:39.720 We'll pay it.

00:12:41.720 Now what?

00:12:42.880 By the way, that's not even 100 days of running the US government, which I think is raking up $1 trillion every 100 days.

00:12:49.260 I thought you were going to say the NHS, but you would probably also have been correct.

00:12:53.620 But you are absolutely right.

00:12:55.680 It's unbelievable amounts of money.

00:12:57.580 But also, just a simple calculation, right?

00:13:00.260 The US has had record illegal migration in the last four years.

00:13:04.160 And yet the inflation was, what, 13% in one of the years of Biden's administration, I think 2022?

00:13:09.460 So why if the illegal migrant population, which is apparently so industrious and productive, despite fleeing from failed states that they couldn't make as industrious and productive as America?

00:13:18.460 We can't answer that question.

00:13:19.780 Why is America not in a booming economy?

00:13:22.120 Great question.

00:13:23.120 Well, they do point out that, did you know, undocumented immigrants paid federal, state and local taxes of nearly $9,000 per person in 2022?

00:13:33.060 How do they know that?

00:13:35.660 So if they're undocumented, how have they got Social Security to the extent where they can pay?

00:13:39.700 Are they committing Social Security fraud?

00:13:41.980 Do they not get sent a tax form they have to fill out and send back in America?

00:13:45.220 Yeah, they do.

00:13:46.900 How does the government know that they're there to send them?

00:13:49.780 How could you possibly?

00:13:51.080 Why would you do it?

00:13:52.360 If you're like, yeah, they don't know I'm here, I'm not going to pay any time.

00:13:54.240 Well, I think you can.

00:13:55.160 One thing they do is, for example, like if you have an area where I know that lots of illegals live there, they can look at, you know, how many cheeseburgers were sold in that area.

00:14:03.540 And then you can say, okay, you know, 20,000 cheeseburgers were bought by illegals.

00:14:07.240 And that means that on these 20,000 cheeseburgers, they were like, you know, $1 in tax.

00:14:11.760 So therefore, they can't do the same.

00:14:13.160 They're specifically talking about the state taxes that 11 people.

00:14:17.060 They're not talking about VAT or whatever that you pay on goods.

00:14:21.880 And they have an exact number, $8,889.

00:14:26.320 It's like, I don't think you know that at all.

00:14:28.720 No, no, that's great.

00:14:29.640 No, that's great.

00:14:30.060 They know that, so we know where they all are, so therefore, we can enforce the law.

00:14:34.580 Yeah, so surely half the job is done.

00:14:37.820 So you can, as we've discussed, it doesn't really matter.

00:14:43.540 Even the people who are going to be adversely affected by this policy know that really you should do the policy.

00:14:48.660 Because America, like everywhere else, is going downhill because of unchecked immigration.

00:14:52.460 And so Trump has just been winning in every demographic.

00:14:55.560 This is surveys done by Northeast University.

00:14:58.160 And if we scroll down, we get the Latin men and Latin women.

00:15:07.020 And as you can see, Trump massively increased his vote share with both cohorts.

00:15:12.160 Because, okay, yeah, yeah, maybe he's going to deport my gran.

00:15:16.480 But damn it, they have to go.

00:15:17.860 They have to go back.

00:15:19.140 Like, it's just too much.

00:15:21.540 And I'm not even joking when I say that.

00:15:23.920 This particular woman, for example, Abigail Soloranzo.

00:15:29.840 Solorazno?

00:15:30.420 I can't pronounce it.

00:15:32.440 She says, well, look, my parents are illegals, but I'm definitely voting for Trump.

00:15:36.600 Because they have to go back.

00:15:38.580 They crossed the southern border after a long journey from Nicaragua more than three decades ago.

00:15:42.980 Surrendered to the authorities, claimed asylum, and then raised their daughters in Miami.

00:15:46.500 Now, Abigail is one of the growing number of Latinos who think that, like her parents, should be turned away.

00:15:51.060 You don't know their background, she says.

00:15:52.900 We don't know what they're doing.

00:15:54.160 It's scary.

00:15:55.560 Yeah.

00:15:56.400 Yeah, it is.

00:15:57.360 You've got literally hundreds of thousands of convicted criminals.

00:16:00.520 Tens of thousands of murderers.

00:16:02.380 And, yeah, I mean, I'm not saying that they're all bad or anything.

00:16:04.580 You're going to get some who are like, yeah, that guy shouldn't be here.

00:16:06.680 This guy's a maniac.

00:16:08.140 You need to start deporting people.

00:16:09.480 Your mum and dad are going to go, maybe.

00:16:11.460 This is Ayan Husay Ali's opinion about Somalians.

00:16:13.520 Yeah.

00:16:13.700 She literally is an asylum seeker to the Netherlands, now lives in the US.

00:16:16.960 And now she's turned around and gone, yeah, loads of them are committing crime.

00:16:20.180 Loads of them are radical Islamists.

00:16:21.300 Why are you bringing them in?

00:16:22.180 Are you mad?

00:16:22.800 Yeah, you're not Somalis, says the son.

00:16:27.060 I mean, a lot of this is, and quite rightly, pulling the ladder up after them.

00:16:31.320 And that ladder is going to need to be even longer as the wall gets turned to higher.

00:16:34.520 There shouldn't have been a ladder in the first place.

00:16:36.340 I don't believe the numbers.

00:16:38.040 We talked about this shortly before the show.

00:16:39.640 I mean, I went back.

00:16:40.780 I think the first one, like Ann Coulter, was talking about this all over 20 years ago.

00:16:44.480 The number was always these miraculous 12 million.

00:16:47.420 Like, we have been talking enough for 30 years.

00:16:49.140 This started even after 9-11.

00:16:50.640 We have 12 million illegal immigrants in the United States.

00:16:53.760 Are you seriously telling me that nothing changed in the last 20 to 30 years, that that

00:16:59.200 number is still exactly the same 12 million as it was in 1999, if it was 12 million in

00:17:04.000 1999?

00:17:04.820 Because a lot of this is supposedly self-reported.

00:17:06.840 So I guess many people are illegal in the country don't really say, you know, yes, sure,

00:17:10.740 I'm here illegally.

00:17:11.120 Oh, no, I absolutely certainly do.

00:17:12.860 Just like they pay their taxes, even though they don't have to.

00:17:16.320 Like, of course.

00:17:17.200 But that's the thing, like, they throw all these numbers at you.

00:17:19.260 And at some point, you say they're not true.

00:17:20.480 I mean, I think this just came out shortly before the election actually took place.

00:17:24.080 There were all these news pieces that say, although people say that they feel that crime

00:17:28.540 has risen, in fact, statistics show that violent crime has gone down.

00:17:32.300 And then like three weeks before the election, it's all of a sudden, well, the FBI has kind

00:17:36.400 of secretly updated the numbers.

00:17:38.600 They revised the numbers and it did not go down, I think, by like 2.1%.

00:17:41.840 It went up by 4.5%.

00:17:43.860 And the same with the economy.

00:17:45.300 There's a couple of interesting economic bloggers out there, like Noah Smith and others, who

00:17:49.200 said, it's all not true, the economy is doing great, inflation is not a problem, people

00:17:53.200 are imagining all of this.

00:17:54.800 What do you mean you imagine this?

00:17:56.360 Like, if you can tell whether you get poorer or not, and then some economist comes along

00:18:00.640 and say, no, no, no, no, no, you're doing much better than you did four years ago.

00:18:04.140 He said, no, I don't.

00:18:05.000 Yes, you do.

00:18:05.920 Yes, you do.

00:18:07.040 I just lost my house.

00:18:08.220 Do you have a study for that?

00:18:09.340 Yeah, exactly.

00:18:10.400 What do you mean?

00:18:12.460 Normal households, they put aside, I don't know, a few hundred dollars a week or whatever

00:18:16.760 it is, for groceries.

00:18:18.500 This is how much we spend on groceries.

00:18:20.120 It's fairly reliable.

00:18:21.040 And then, you know, we'll see what offers are on, blah, blah, blah.

00:18:23.180 And if that isn't producing enough food to feed the family for that period of time, you

00:18:29.360 feel it, you notice it, you don't need anyone else to tell you this.

00:18:32.300 I know because there's not a lot happening to my household.

00:18:34.920 So it's very obvious it's going to be exactly the same for almost everyone in America right

00:18:38.920 now.

00:18:39.120 We also know all the numbers are made up because when they get revised later on, like the jobs

00:18:41.920 numbers, they say, we've created a hundred odd thousand jobs.

00:18:44.140 Pay no attention that a hundred percent of jobs have gone to migrants, basically, since

00:18:48.800 Biden and Harris took over.

00:18:50.660 And then they revise it down to-

00:18:51.340 And government in place.

00:18:52.360 Yeah, quite.

00:18:52.800 And they revise it down to, yeah, it's about 12,000 actually.

00:18:54.880 Sorry, Bald Eagle just sent in a soup chat making a great point that I did mean to make,

00:18:58.760 but got kind of sidetracked.

00:19:00.500 Even if, let's assume that the illegals are just like, yeah, I just feel like giving money

00:19:04.980 to the government.

00:19:05.420 I'm going to fill out these taxes because I'm just such a good person, even though I broke

00:19:08.340 into this country illegally.

00:19:09.540 What are they taking from the state in exchange?

00:19:12.380 The exact same situation in the UK.

00:19:15.280 Even the skilled migrants, about 50% of whom make less than the average wage, by the way,

00:19:19.480 so they take out, also bring the equivalent number, if not more, dependents who never

00:19:24.000 contribute anything in the first place.

00:19:25.420 And I think there's also, one has to be fair about the different approaches within the migrant

00:19:30.480 community.

00:19:30.960 Because my brother lives in the United States, like he works there, it took them four years

00:19:35.260 to get through all the procedures to get a green card.

00:19:37.300 So it's also unfair, as for example, Harris was proposing.

00:19:41.300 Somebody comes in illegally, and then you say, our solution to the problem is we make

00:19:44.740 a blanket amnesty and a quick path to citizenship.

00:19:48.240 There are people who have been standing in line for the right not getting citizenship, just

00:19:51.960 going to have the permission to work in the United States for years on end.

00:19:55.300 You need lawyers to help you, because otherwise you cannot do all the paperwork, which brings

00:19:58.960 us back again to the administrative part.

00:20:00.880 And then somebody crosses the Mexican border, says, here I am.

00:20:03.860 And they say, well, you're already in, there's nothing we can do about it.

00:20:06.780 There's a friend of mine who used to say, I said, if you fly to the US and you want to

00:20:09.780 stay there, don't book a flight to New York, book a flight to Mexico.

00:20:13.080 And it's partially true, so it's also unfair towards, you always punish the honest ones,

00:20:18.640 it seems.

00:20:19.100 This is also what we, of course, experience in the UK and in continental Europe, right?

00:20:22.480 You have honest migrants that come in, they have, it's much harder, they are getting

00:20:26.800 much easier deported because they play by the rules.

00:20:28.860 And then you have people who come in who are either radicals or criminals or anything else,

00:20:32.440 and then you say, well, we can't deport them because they might be punished.

00:20:34.640 Well, they're victims.

00:20:35.540 They're victims of something.

00:20:36.880 And it's, yeah, it's terrible.

00:20:38.900 And like I said, it seems that Trump's common sense platform is so common sense that he just

00:20:45.960 can't stop winning.

00:20:47.180 So Trump recently, in this last election, won Star County.

00:20:51.580 This is, he's the first Republican to win this Texas border county for over 100 years.

00:20:56.240 Why do we think that might be the case?

00:20:59.580 Because the demographics are 97% Hispanic.

00:21:06.560 97%.

00:21:07.000 They don't give us actually a tally of how many illegal citizens, but I'm going to guess

00:21:12.520 that a lot of them are not legal citizens.

00:21:15.260 A lot of them are going to be illegals who have literally just arrived across the border.

00:21:18.640 Well, the fascinating thing is as well, there are lots of, let's say, legal Venezuelans

00:21:23.820 and Cubans in Florida, Florida after ensuring election integrity, when the quickest state

00:21:30.720 read, complete blanket read, was a swing state.

00:21:34.760 Even Miami-Dade County, where lots of Hispanics are, where Dave Raboy lives, that's flipped

00:21:39.360 because they know the kinds of people that come across.

00:21:41.800 And Trump won about, what was it, 40% of California, which has declared itself a sanctuary

00:21:46.960 state.

00:21:47.600 New York as well, where they've had lots of African migrants who are sleeping out in the

00:21:50.640 open and committing sex offences.

00:21:51.740 Everyone who has common sense wants these criminals to be returned home.

00:21:56.200 Yeah.

00:21:57.140 And that's not the only county on the border that Trump flipped either.

00:22:00.400 Texas is actually going more and more red as time goes on because the Latins are just

00:22:05.360 like, okay, yeah, great.

00:22:06.700 But, you know, he might send my grandparents back or my mum and dad back.

00:22:10.080 But, I mean, look at all these goddamn criminals.

00:22:12.260 And many of the illegals are just optimistic that they won't be the ones deported, actually,

00:22:16.920 as you can see from this one.

00:22:18.220 An undocumented immigrant from Guatemala says the odds of Trump improving the economy is

00:22:22.360 worth the potentially higher risk of deportation.

00:22:25.240 Trump wants to deport those who do bad things.

00:22:26.940 I haven't broken any laws.

00:22:27.900 Well, yeah, well, you know, but what I like about this is the rationalization in it.

00:22:33.820 It's like, well, you know, I mean, Kamala is going to make everyone really poor.

00:22:38.120 Why would I even come here?

00:22:39.400 I'll run the risk of getting deported.

00:22:41.880 Deportation, gay race, communism.

00:22:44.080 Yeah.

00:22:44.860 I'll choose the deportation.

00:22:47.360 And the article that this is attached to, they've got loads of accounts in here.

00:22:52.800 At the bottom, they've got a little line saying, well, we've, for those people we interviewed

00:22:56.240 who are here illegally, we only provided their first name.

00:22:59.080 That's like four and there's like one legal person that they interviewed for it.

00:23:02.400 For example, Victor is a Mexican immigrant who lives in Austin, works a day laborer, and

00:23:08.160 expressed similar frustrations over the economy.

00:23:12.140 Work, he said, has decreased from a near constant to no more than two jobs a week in the past

00:23:16.000 years.

00:23:16.620 So, you know, if they deport me, fair enough, but at least I'll get some money until then.

00:23:23.400 Excellent.

00:23:23.920 We've got a couple of rumble rants.

00:23:25.980 We've got, we've already read out bald eagles.

00:23:28.500 We've got near unrealists for $1.

00:23:29.600 The reality is the violent criminals wind up in Hispanic neighborhoods.

00:23:32.640 They're the primary victims of illegal alien criminals.

00:23:34.980 Things are that bad here.

00:23:36.600 Well, just a quick thing.

00:23:38.180 That's a completely common phenomenon.

00:23:41.860 Legal migrant communities, when they're allowed to coalesce into sort of miniature colonies,

00:23:47.060 become a kind of anchor for illegals to move into because of a shared culture, shared

00:23:52.180 understanding, shared language, shared habits, and often family members.

00:23:57.240 So people that you can stay with.

00:23:58.900 So these migrant communities become a hotbed of illegal immigration.

00:24:03.480 It's, this is why you see children like Jennifer Nogare, like a struggle to pronounce her

00:24:09.180 last name, the 12 year old that was abducted and killed in Texas.

00:24:12.280 And the mom was going on the campaign trail with Trump.

00:24:14.900 I mean, she didn't do anything wrong.

00:24:17.220 She's of that background.

00:24:18.340 So they well know how bad this can be.

00:24:20.900 And Connor's smug mug.

00:24:22.000 Oh, thank you very much.

00:24:22.860 Uh, Trump won.

00:24:23.860 God bless.

00:24:24.580 Dev seethes and copes.

00:24:26.040 Who's Dev?

00:24:27.020 Don't worry.

00:24:27.880 Okay.

00:24:28.380 Would you ever invite Kersha on?

00:24:30.480 I don't know.

00:24:31.720 Islander 3 will release before I ever see my Islander 2.

00:24:34.040 We're sorry if there's any delays.

00:24:35.180 We don't know which country you're in.

00:24:36.520 I assume you're Americans.

00:24:38.040 Or maybe Australian.

00:24:39.120 Uh, could be.

00:24:39.800 But I think it's American.

00:24:40.740 Because I've had a few Americans saying, when's my Islander coming?

00:24:43.560 I will get on that.

00:24:44.600 Excellent.

00:24:45.080 Thank you very much.

00:24:46.520 Right.

00:24:47.760 Turns out, Kamala Harris has a hideous Redditor army who do not want to accept the results

00:24:52.580 of the election.

00:24:53.500 I can't believe she lost.

00:24:54.600 We keep being told, of course, that election denials are a uniquely Republican thing.

00:24:59.280 Pay no attention to 2004 and Hillary Clinton in 2016.

00:25:01.960 Even though Kamala has conceded and Joe Biden found his proper meds down the back of the

00:25:08.200 sofa and gave a cogent speech the other day saying, we're going to accept these results

00:25:11.840 of the election.

00:25:12.720 Turns out Harris HQ aren't actually that keen on what's happened.

00:25:15.920 Is that just, I mean, Joe Biden must be, it's the three people here in the room, maybe

00:25:20.160 51% of the American population and Joe Biden who are the happiest about the outcome of this

00:25:24.540 election.

00:25:25.180 You could tell.

00:25:26.040 Like when he was smiling, he was like pointing around.

00:25:29.160 Like he did not seem that fit, well, since, I don't know, you know, Grover Cleveland lost

00:25:36.600 his first election.

00:25:38.060 It's like, this is because he will walk around now and he will find out every day when somebody

00:25:43.140 reminds him, because he probably doesn't remember on his own, that he was the only

00:25:46.340 person who ever defeats Donald Trump in an election, supposedly.

00:25:51.040 And it could well that he has voted for him this time.

00:25:53.620 Yeah, I would not be surprised.

00:25:54.800 I would not be surprised.

00:25:56.560 Well, it turns out that lots of people vote for Trump.

00:25:58.080 So we have an update from Elon Musk.

00:26:00.520 God bless him for buying X.

00:26:02.240 It's done a great service to the world.

00:26:05.080 Arizona's just declared for Trump.

00:26:06.780 I know that the Senate and House races are still coming in.

00:26:09.900 So by the time that this is out, Carrie Lake could have been announced as a new senator

00:26:13.080 or she could have lost by a narrow margin.

00:26:14.520 Who knows?

00:26:15.200 But he has got the presidency, the popular vote, the Senate majority, probably a House

00:26:18.680 majority, state governor majority, state legislature majority.

00:26:21.980 And the Supreme Court.

00:26:22.820 And the Supreme Court.

00:26:23.480 Well, and also two Supreme Court justices are probably going to retire during this term.

00:26:27.420 It's probably going to be Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito.

00:26:30.120 So he gets to appoint two more as well.

00:26:31.540 Superb.

00:26:32.060 Cementing that.

00:26:32.760 Sad to see Thomas go, but what can you do?

00:26:34.740 He's in his late 70s.

00:26:35.640 Yeah, no, exactly.

00:26:36.400 Don't do a great service.

00:26:37.720 Yeah.

00:26:38.040 Can you give us some more like cackling as he gets into the car meme?

00:26:41.420 That'd be fantastic.

00:26:42.300 But before, anyway, before that, Trump has a...

00:26:45.300 I just really like his judgments.

00:26:45.960 He's very terse.

00:26:46.740 No, this is bollocks.

00:26:47.520 Get out.

00:26:48.060 Yeah.

00:26:48.360 Anyway, sorry.

00:26:49.160 It's going to be good.

00:26:49.860 Trump has a complete and utter mandate to govern.

00:26:53.060 But will the Democrats accept the result?

00:26:54.640 Now, Kamala Harris has to certify the result herself on January 6th.

00:26:59.540 Yeah.

00:27:00.340 That's going to be delicious.

00:27:01.820 Yeah.

00:27:02.000 Between now and then, we might be expecting some protests, a spattering of upset and chimping

00:27:08.700 out.

00:27:08.860 And the reason I suspect this is because Dave Raboy sent me this piece from the New York

00:27:13.200 Times.

00:27:13.600 He was on our election stream, and he brought it up then.

00:27:16.360 And there were two lawyers here that, in late October, just advocated launching a color

00:27:20.600 revolution against the Trump administration.

00:27:23.000 So they say, here are four different examples of how we could have foughted Trump's path to

00:27:27.660 the White House before he could become a candidate.

00:27:29.960 And here's how we didn't take them.

00:27:30.880 So they said, using the 14th Amendment.

00:27:32.540 Now, we know that they can't decertify the election result with this because Trump didn't

00:27:36.540 launch an insurrection.

00:27:37.460 So it doesn't apply.

00:27:38.080 So that's off the table.

00:27:39.700 They said some other legalese thing that I've not included in here.

00:27:43.300 The third one, they said, to defending democracy, the third approach, is partisan gatekeeping.

00:27:47.760 In the absence of legal tools to block extremist threats.

00:27:50.320 Have we thought about doing that, guys?

00:27:51.920 No, maybe we should start.

00:27:54.520 It says, the responsibility for offending off such threats falls to political parties.

00:27:57.580 Now, I hate to break it to you, but you are minorities in literally everything.

00:28:00.860 But the idea, oh, let's try partisan, that's all you've done for the last decade, which

00:28:05.060 is why you've got Trump.

00:28:06.140 Yes.

00:28:06.680 It's literally the reason he's here.

00:28:08.200 And you now have zero bargaining power.

00:28:10.080 Yeah, yeah.

00:28:10.420 Because you lost every single institution.

00:28:12.520 So that one's off the table.

00:28:14.280 And they say, when authoritarians make it onto the ballot, pro-democratic forces may turn

00:28:18.520 to a fourth strategy.

00:28:20.160 Containment.

00:28:20.860 So, just the pro-democratic forces, well, what happened?

00:28:24.660 Well, people voted for what they wanted and they got it.

00:28:26.800 Ah, yeah, that's anti-democracy.

00:28:28.720 Yeah, no, it is, Cole.

00:28:29.580 You see, democracy doesn't mean one man, one vote to the Democrats.

00:28:32.120 Yeah.

00:28:32.500 Remember that-

00:28:32.960 People should get what they want.

00:28:33.800 No, they're blank slatists.

00:28:35.120 So they get to tell you what you should want, presuming we have an egalitarian human

00:28:38.620 nature.

00:28:38.920 And so it's only because of divisive racist populists like Trump that you're not all voting

00:28:42.720 for the Democrats.

00:28:43.300 So, if you don't get Democrats, democracy hasn't worked, in their mind.

00:28:47.440 They're mad, they believe this, take it into account.

00:28:49.520 So, instead they say, let's try containment, in which politicians, from across the ideological

00:28:54.880 spectrum, forge a broad coalition to isolate and defeat the authoritarians.

00:28:59.000 Translation, the uniparty and the deep state try and frustrate Trump's term again.

00:29:03.340 It seems that he's much wiser this time.

00:29:05.240 They actually reference a couple of examples in European politics, Ralph.

00:29:07.720 They reference how the Law and Justice Party were being gatekept by coalition in Poland,

00:29:11.900 and obviously Macron allying with the Communists to try and block Le Pen and her party from

00:29:16.160 winning as Jordan Bardella as Prime Minister.

00:29:19.520 Now, you know quite a lot about European electoral systems.

00:29:23.080 Given they are proportional representation systems and the Americans are not, how successful

00:29:28.380 do you think the Democrats would be able to replicate any of those European containment

00:29:31.420 exercises?

00:29:32.300 I don't even think that the Europeans have been successful.

00:29:35.160 I mean, they also tried it in Austria, right?

00:29:36.700 They tried it in Austria for 40 years, and now the Freedom Party came in first in the last

00:29:40.520 elections.

00:29:41.000 They again keep them out of government, and they will even be strong after the next election.

00:29:44.500 And like Fidesz in Hungary at some point, then you don't have 29%, you have like 43%.

00:29:49.420 And then the system itself basically allows you to govern on your own.

00:29:53.580 The problem, I think you described it quite nicely.

00:29:56.060 The thing is, people understand, like if they, this is the voter is not this mysterious

00:30:02.000 creature.

00:30:02.600 I mean, they tell, like, from the UK to Europe to the US, they have been telling politicians

00:30:07.920 for decades what they want.

00:30:10.160 And they accept being ignored for a while, but it's like you pursue a girl, right?

00:30:14.860 And at some point, you're going to give up and look for another girl.

00:30:18.140 And this is kind of what voters are now doing.

00:30:19.600 They say, you know, we told you, like, migration has been an issue all over the West, I would

00:30:24.760 say, since the late 70s.

00:30:26.560 And it has been ignored.

00:30:27.760 And then the things, I always compare, like, to the ship and the barnacles on it, right?

00:30:32.580 It gets more and more.

00:30:33.700 And the ship is like, it's getting ever slower.

00:30:35.600 It's lingering.

00:30:36.160 It cannot hold course.

00:30:37.180 But you have to burn more and more and more fuel, even though you get slower and slower

00:30:40.340 and slower.

00:30:40.920 And this is precisely how many people feel all over the West.

00:30:43.920 They say, we pay higher taxes than ever.

00:30:46.100 We get less quality in services, whether it's in healthcare, whether it's in education,

00:30:50.880 whether it's, you know, in any other area of life.

00:30:52.480 So we want a fundamental system change.

00:30:55.060 The fun part about Donald Trump is he is, between us, he is actually what Barack Obama

00:31:01.600 promised to be.

00:31:03.060 Like, Barack Obama was, the only difference with Barack Obama was that he had a different

00:31:07.760 skin color.

00:31:08.360 Let's be completely honest.

00:31:09.380 Otherwise, he was a typical Democrat machine politician.

00:31:13.300 He was George Bush in a tan suit.

00:31:14.540 Precisely.

00:31:15.100 Yeah.

00:31:15.560 Supposedly the only scandal he ever had was the tan suit, right?

00:31:17.700 I just, I just love, I just love this.

00:31:20.380 Oh, we just can't figure out what voters want.

00:31:22.220 If only they'd tell us, as if, like, they're on this, like, shrinking island as the great

00:31:29.680 tides come in.

00:31:30.860 And they're just like, well, you know, it just could never be known.

00:31:33.600 It's like, look.

00:31:34.440 A mystery.

00:31:35.380 Yeah.

00:31:35.480 It's just a mystery for the ages.

00:31:37.300 They just don't want democracy.

00:31:39.240 Someone's shouting in there as they're clicking through chicken entrails.

00:31:42.040 Yeah, it's just like, it's really not very hard.

00:31:45.600 And we'll cover this in a minute, actually, about, like, the sort of elite bubble politicians

00:31:51.880 and people around them.

00:31:53.340 It's actually not very hard.

00:31:54.700 You're just a massive snob.

00:31:56.740 That's your problem.

00:31:57.940 Quite.

00:31:58.340 So, you can't use lawfare.

00:32:00.420 You can't use the other party.

00:32:01.780 You can't use the uniparty in the deep state.

00:32:04.220 You can't use electoral coalitions to gatekeep a man out who has won literally every part of

00:32:09.320 the government and the popular vote.

00:32:10.480 Don't control anything.

00:32:11.160 So, that leaves us with a fifth strategy, according to these lawyers.

00:32:14.940 Social mobilization.

00:32:16.340 Democracy's last bastion of defense is civil society.

00:32:19.480 When the constitutional order is under threat, influential groups and societal leaders, chief

00:32:23.080 executives, religious leaders, labor leaders, and prominent retired public officials must

00:32:27.700 speak out, reminding citizens of the red lines that democratic societies must never cross.

00:32:31.700 And when politicians cross those red lines, society's most prominent voices must publicly

00:32:35.400 and forcefully repudiate them.

00:32:38.140 That's interesting.

00:32:38.720 But what you're saying, when you appeal to society as being the last bulwark against

00:32:44.640 tyranny, apparently, you're presupposing that the society doesn't agree with the supposed

00:32:51.440 tyranny.

00:32:52.320 But Donald Trump winning the popular vote kind of implies that society isn't with you either.

00:32:57.340 So, what now?

00:32:58.660 No, you're so right.

00:32:59.860 And they have tried this.

00:33:01.260 I love this part of it.

00:33:02.380 The prominent retired public officials, like what, Liz Cheney and John Bolton.

00:33:07.320 The idea of you, this was so absurd.

00:33:09.020 The idea of Democrat side, if you trot out the Cheneys, that that will win you the election,

00:33:14.940 you must be entirely deluded.

00:33:16.060 Do you remember Michael Gove coming out and saying, I'm going to endorse Kamala Harris because

00:33:21.100 I usually take Dick Cheney's advice?

00:33:23.180 I don't remember that.

00:33:24.480 Michael Gove, as soon as he became the editor of Spectator, and then on election night,

00:33:28.560 Spectator ran an article from Steerpike that says, five Brits who lost out on election night.

00:33:34.200 And I was just like, I can think of a sixth.

00:33:37.800 Why would you think?

00:33:38.880 But also, if you're a Democrat, why would you think that you would encourage Democrat

00:33:42.560 enfranchisement by taking the endorsement from someone you called a war criminal for

00:33:47.620 20 years?

00:33:48.200 Oh, yeah.

00:33:48.520 Like, if you're a conservative, why are you endorsing the Democrats?

00:33:52.920 What is wrong with you?

00:33:53.700 It's because they're neoconservative.

00:33:54.640 And as we know from both Strauss and Rawls, these people, again, believe you're blank slates,

00:34:00.140 and so they think they are philosopher kings that should tell you what's in your rational

00:34:03.500 self-interest, and so they can administer democracy on your half as, what did Time Magazine call

00:34:08.340 it?

00:34:08.680 Shadow campaign that saved the last election?

00:34:11.060 But this is what I love about Trump and what he's managed to achieve, is actually successfully

00:34:16.880 oust the Uniparty into one of the parties.

00:34:22.060 So he's successfully taken control of literally more than half of American politics at this

00:34:26.580 point, but in 2016 took control of like half of American politics, and essentially forced

00:34:31.140 them to be like, oh no, we're all Democrats now.

00:34:32.740 So George Bush, Dick Cheney, probably Rumsfeld, you know, all of the worst people of the early

00:34:39.640 2000s, and are all Democrats, along with Obama, Clinton, you know, Gore and all those.

00:34:48.160 And so you've got, okay, great, they're all, and then our politicians are like, Labour are

00:34:52.460 like, yeah, we're with them.

00:34:53.340 And the Conservatives are like, oh yeah, we're with them too.

00:34:55.220 Do you know William Hague wrote a column at the Times?

00:34:57.200 If Trump wins, it'll be a catastrophe.

00:34:59.240 His exact quote was, we're all Democrats now.

00:35:02.180 It's like, thanks, we knew that.

00:35:03.420 That's the end, that's the final line of his column.

00:35:06.160 But this is, you made such an important point, because that was the trouble that Trump had

00:35:10.100 in his first period, which was that he was an outsider who was winning not just against

00:35:15.620 Hillary Clinton, he was also winning against the Republican establishment.

00:35:19.920 The entire consensual.

00:35:20.740 Precisely.

00:35:21.520 And the Republicans then, they reined him in, right?

00:35:24.620 He had, I think, Reince Priebus, who nobody has ever heard of before, was his first chief

00:35:28.320 of staff.

00:35:29.360 And they put all these Republicans.

00:35:31.900 There were loads of Reiners.

00:35:32.500 Exactly.

00:35:32.720 Paul Ryan, Mike Pompeo.

00:35:34.340 Exactly.

00:35:34.940 And in a weird way, and this, I think, makes the period we're living through so interesting,

00:35:40.240 the four-year break he had from power was probably the best thing that could happen.

00:35:45.100 Because first of all, things got so bad, not just in the US, but all over the West,

00:35:48.760 that even the Elon Musks, right?

00:35:51.060 The Joe Rogans, and I think behind closed door, even Jeff Bezos and others.

00:35:55.580 Oh, yeah.

00:35:55.960 I reckon Zuckerberg.

00:35:56.860 Yeah, exactly.

00:35:57.640 That we can't do that.

00:35:58.540 Like, something needs to change.

00:35:59.760 And that guy probably is the one most likely to affect that change.

00:36:03.320 If he would have been re-elected in 2020 or stayed in office in 2020, it would have been

00:36:08.080 a continuation of the same.

00:36:10.220 It would have been Trump as the president on his Twitter account with all these Republican,

00:36:14.720 you know, technocrats and apparatchiks around him.

00:36:16.920 And now, at least, again, I'm as excited and enthusiastic as you guys are.

00:36:20.740 Let's hope he's living up to our expectations, because I believe we will hold him to just

00:36:24.920 as high a standard as we will hold anybody else.

00:36:26.780 But it looks promising at the moment, because you need these idiosyncratic figures right

00:36:30.720 now.

00:36:30.960 And this is, again, what the establishment doesn't get.

00:36:33.020 When they say, Sam Harris, for example, right?

00:36:35.520 He is not normal.

00:36:36.920 That's the point.

00:36:38.060 Because normal has been devastating for millions of people.

00:36:41.560 Like, if normal means decline, if normal means that your life is going to be worse tomorrow

00:36:46.560 than today, you don't want normal.

00:36:48.540 You want the abnormal guy who says decline is a choice, right?

00:36:51.980 The future is bright.

00:36:53.280 America can be great.

00:36:54.380 The very idea that if a politician, whether it's British, continental European, American,

00:36:58.400 if their slogan is make whatever it is great again, how can you not agree with this?

00:37:02.380 Like, this should be completely beyond dispute.

00:37:04.540 It's not fair, is it?

00:37:05.480 Well, also, Sam Harris.

00:37:06.380 It's not fair.

00:37:06.620 It's not equal.

00:37:07.480 What about social justice?

00:37:08.800 Have you thought about these things?

00:37:09.740 Okay.

00:37:10.040 And you can already feel the venom being injected.

00:37:12.000 One point on this because this is, I'm all for justice.

00:37:16.320 If people say social justice, they want to betray.

00:37:19.060 If you are for social justice, you will get neither.

00:37:21.740 Like, there's justice and that's all that's needed.

00:37:23.840 Yeah.

00:37:24.100 Also, Sam Harris's definition of normal is allowing Hunter Biden to hoard the corpses of children

00:37:29.200 in his basement rather than have Trump University fail.

00:37:31.660 I don't trust Sam Harris's definition of anything ever.

00:37:35.240 And that's...

00:37:36.020 But this thing is, none of these people themselves are normal.

00:37:38.840 Yes.

00:37:39.140 Yes.

00:37:39.720 Wait, you think Tim Waltz, the Jim Henson character that befriends school shooters, isn't the

00:37:44.880 apotheosis of that?

00:37:45.620 That was just a slip of the tongue.

00:37:48.000 I'm sure he's not really friends with very many school shooters.

00:37:51.780 Anyway, I'm pointing to being very many.

00:37:54.100 Yeah.

00:37:54.520 Well, I mean, maybe one or two.

00:37:55.940 I mean, who isn't, right?

00:37:57.040 Speaking of incredibly normal people that certainly wouldn't be school shooters, where

00:38:00.500 are they getting all these activists from?

00:38:01.920 Because immediately after the election result came in, there were a sort of spattering of

00:38:06.420 pathetic protests.

00:38:08.500 AOC had encouraged this.

00:38:09.800 She said, we need mass movements of people that mobilize to protect one another in times

00:38:13.780 of fascism.

00:38:14.560 I mean, it's getting old now.

00:38:15.860 Just to be clear, right?

00:38:16.680 I'm just at the point now, whenever they're like, oh, Trump's a fascist.

00:38:20.120 This is Nazi America.

00:38:20.880 I'm like, yeah, it is.

00:38:22.040 I'm just going to gaslight them now.

00:38:23.340 Have you seen the Stone Talks?

00:38:24.200 I want you to think that.

00:38:25.160 Of where the purple-haired guy shouts, racist.

00:38:27.220 The guy in the MAGA hat, he just turns around and goes, loser.

00:38:29.460 And just walks off.

00:38:30.560 That's your reaction.

00:38:31.520 It's like, fascist.

00:38:32.760 Loser.

00:38:33.360 Okay.

00:38:33.720 But the thing is, just agree with them and see where they go with it.

00:38:36.640 It's like, okay, yeah, no, you're under Nazi occupation now.

00:38:38.880 What now?

00:38:39.720 Oh, I guess I'm just going to go home and protest or something.

00:38:43.040 No, no, that's not the response.

00:38:44.580 If you really thought you were under a Nazi occupation.

00:38:46.900 Everyone knows you know you're not.

00:38:48.360 We're not going to, we're not playing your game anymore.

00:38:49.860 If you say it, I'm just going to go, yeah, okay, whatever.

00:38:51.880 Yeah.

00:38:52.500 Also, the deputy head of the ACLU said, we need you in the streets.

00:38:55.980 And so, some people listened.

00:38:58.320 The ACLU, oh yeah.

00:38:59.560 A very small spattering of people in mainly left-wing cities.

00:39:02.080 And Andy Ngo has footage from Portland, Oregon.

00:39:04.160 There's a gathering of some very sad Starbucks baristas.

00:39:06.980 That's so good, isn't it?

00:39:08.160 Yeah, there was a protest outside Trump Tower with a bunch of pro-Palestine people with some...

00:39:14.500 What are they going to do when Trump ends the war?

00:39:16.340 Well, the grift engine dries up.

00:39:18.740 All these placards are conveniently pre-printed.

00:39:21.120 Oh, well, it's just the renter mob.

00:39:22.940 Oh, we'll learn where they're actually from in a moment.

00:39:25.760 And there's an aerial shot of it.

00:39:27.780 It's really not as impressive as it was in 2016.

00:39:31.020 The momentum's really gone.

00:39:32.280 And there was a very small one outside City Hall in Philadelphia.

00:39:35.900 But, okay, so did you see the one in Britain?

00:39:38.160 No.

00:39:39.380 In York, I think it was, about 20 fat students were like,

00:39:43.560 we don't like Donald Trump in the middle of York City.

00:39:46.040 And it's like, okay.

00:39:48.680 I don't think he's coming.

00:39:50.100 I think he's got other places to be.

00:39:52.780 I think Hull City Council denounced the election mob.

00:39:56.060 I was like, Trump is handing this resignation.

00:39:58.680 Guy leans in, we've lost Hull City Council.

00:40:03.240 Anyway, there was this claim mentioned when we did the election night stream.

00:40:08.720 I think it was in your segment with Matt Christensen and Steve Turley

00:40:12.680 that all these people go to the exact same events.

00:40:16.220 And it's to do with phone tracking.

00:40:18.140 There's this chap called Tony Segura, who was a former CIA NSA contractor.

00:40:22.720 And so he decided to go to the events and do cell phone tracking.

00:40:26.580 And he's found a significant overlap with all of Kamala Harris's rallies,

00:40:30.080 Antifa and BLM events.

00:40:31.780 Literally rent-a-mobs.

00:40:33.360 Professional activist class being bussed out all over the country.

00:40:36.280 George Soros has got to spend his money somewhere.

00:40:38.140 Yeah, quite.

00:40:38.540 So he's found 121 devices within the 171 cluster that were protesting the event

00:40:45.300 were linked to three or more Antifa, BLM, or Palestine protests or riots.

00:40:49.600 And 171, all of them, attended more than three Kamala Harris rallies.

00:40:53.760 You could probably get AI that would scan the footage and pick out the individuals.

00:40:59.640 That would be an interesting exercise.

00:41:01.600 He also found, speaking of AI, that she did a...

00:41:04.560 So I'm going to go through the rallies one by one.

00:41:05.880 This was in August.

00:41:06.480 There was a rally at the Detroit Metro Airport.

00:41:08.600 And apparently there was this absolutely massive photo.

00:41:11.520 And Trump said this was a fake crowd.

00:41:13.380 Nobody was here.

00:41:13.920 It's obviously fake.

00:41:14.720 They fact-checked him.

00:41:15.700 They said, actually, no, this is a real photo.

00:41:17.760 We ran it through an AI filter and it said this is 96% probably real.

00:41:23.720 So...

00:41:24.080 I'll take that 4% because I can spot the weird, like, backlighting on the people.

00:41:31.560 It doesn't fit.

00:41:32.340 Well, also, they said 15,000 people went there.

00:41:35.680 He found there were only 4,189 devices.

00:41:39.000 So where the rest were the 11,000?

00:41:41.560 But all right, that was on August 12th.

00:41:43.100 Also, when you zoom in, some of the hands are weird.

00:41:44.980 Yeah.

00:41:45.520 On September the 12th, as it approached Election Day, only 3,600...

00:41:50.060 Sorry, there were 5,003 mobile devices.

00:41:52.980 So the crowd numbers keep dropping.

00:41:54.720 3,600 came in from Georgia into her rally in North Carolina.

00:41:59.440 So she had to bus about two-thirds of her crowd in.

00:42:03.620 Okay.

00:42:04.000 Very odd.

00:42:06.020 Another one as well.

00:42:07.960 Expo at the...

00:42:08.820 Rally at the Expo in downtown Las Vegas.

00:42:11.380 And this was on the 30th of September, getting really close to Election Day.

00:42:15.300 Only 7,000 mobile devices there.

00:42:18.740 834 from Las Vegas.

00:42:20.100 3,000 phone in from California.

00:42:22.100 2,300 from Arizona.

00:42:23.560 134 from Mexico.

00:42:25.800 Why are they flying people in from...

00:42:27.280 Is it only election interference when you can blame it on the Russians?

00:42:29.580 Just where you can get it from.

00:42:31.260 Yeah.

00:42:31.660 There you go.

00:42:32.820 Curious that...

00:42:33.440 Doesn't work from the Labour Party.

00:42:34.860 Yeah.

00:42:35.380 6,122 will repeat visitors from other rallies.

00:42:39.420 So the overwhelming majority are just going from rally to rally to make up the sizes of her crowd.

00:42:44.540 In the final days of the campaign, if you're flying people in from Mexico, it's not a good look.

00:42:49.000 And then there was the Ellipse rally in Washington, D.C.

00:42:51.560 And this was on the 29th.

00:42:53.580 And this was fascinating.

00:42:54.960 There were 31,834 mobile devices near Washington, D.C. for this rally.

00:42:59.940 Of course, it's the epicentre of political activism.

00:43:02.400 You'd expect it'll have Democrat staffers to be there.

00:43:05.300 91% attended three or more Harris rallies.

00:43:08.000 This is giving me real sort of Maduro-Chavez vibes.

00:43:12.480 It's like, look at the size of the crowd that we have in the heart of the administrative state.

00:43:16.480 Yeah, these are all government employees.

00:43:18.480 The first person to stop clapping was immediately whisked away.

00:43:20.960 The opposition is like, we're going to fire all of these people.

00:43:24.880 And so obviously they come out for the party that's like, we're going to expand the administrative state.

00:43:28.720 So yeah, of course they support you, but they're going to all be employed by the federal government.

00:43:33.080 Also, they were all from other states.

00:43:35.680 11,000 from Atlanta, 6,500 from California, and 6,122 were linked to Antifa, BLM, or pro-Palestine protests or riots.

00:43:45.540 So she'd probably donate it to the bail firm just to make sure all the people could actually show up to our rallies.

00:43:50.920 I really want to break down, though.

00:43:52.700 What percentage of them are government workers?

00:43:55.000 And I bet it's really high.

00:43:56.740 Well, I also want to know who's paying for their transport.

00:43:59.520 Oh, that's a great question.

00:44:01.980 They had a billion spent.

00:44:03.860 Yeah, true, probably.

00:44:05.020 Now they're 20 million in debt.

00:44:06.040 But then, if they're spending it on transport fees from Mexico, you're not allowed to do that.

00:44:11.720 That would be worrying.

00:44:13.160 And also, why are they at every single event?

00:44:16.160 Like, a bit odd.

00:44:17.980 So how come, as well, all of X flooded with pro-Trump posts, right?

00:44:24.260 Except a small minority of absolute nobodies do some insane take on trans policy and get hundreds of thousands of likes.

00:44:32.360 Did you notice that a few times?

00:44:33.840 It's quite weird.

00:44:34.500 How could it be that Kamala Harris dominates Reddit, yet Trump wins the popular vote?

00:44:40.200 Very weird.

00:44:40.880 Well, count on X, Reddit Lies, who just sort of compiles screenshots, decides to do some actual journalism and digging.

00:44:46.500 So, well done, sir.

00:44:47.360 Very good stuff.

00:44:48.680 And he found that Kamala Harris has been using a Discord server to instruct her campaign staff to go and downvote community notes on their own posts.

00:44:58.360 So, Kamala HQ, the account which hasn't posted for a little while,

00:45:02.280 they would often get fact-checked because they just posted outright lies and out-of-context clips.

00:45:06.740 When they got fact-checked, so they knew they were lying,

00:45:08.880 they then said, quick, go and downvote Brigade so that these community notes don't show up on our posts.

00:45:13.660 What a waste of time and effort.

00:45:15.760 Yeah.

00:45:16.280 You can't stage-manage perception like this.

00:45:17.860 So, he says, in the example below, so there's some screenshots here,

00:45:22.060 Kamala HQ claimed that Donald Trump referred to Americans who don't support him as dangerous people.

00:45:29.680 Timothy Durigan, an employee of the Democratic National Committee,

00:45:33.080 urges campaign volunteers to vote down a community note that accurately pointed out that Kamala campaign was taking Trump's remark out of context.

00:45:40.620 So, they know they're lying, they know that you know they're lying,

00:45:44.360 and yet they not only still lie, but they try to actively suppress the truth being attached to their lies.

00:45:49.880 So, that's interesting.

00:45:50.980 In Twitter community notes, this is a channel on the Harris-Waltz Discord,

00:45:55.140 paid Democrat staffers were writing community notes on X to undermine the GOP and Trump messaging.

00:46:00.360 So, they were actively trying to create community notes under the RNC research account, for example.

00:46:03.880 So, when Biden claimed that his son was killed in Iraq, and said he was a professor at the University of Pennsylvania,

00:46:10.840 they said that, oh, Biden's son died of a brain tumour, probably caused by a burn pit in Iraq,

00:46:15.340 and it's like, yeah, that's tragic, that wasn't in Iraq, though.

00:46:17.440 And also, in 2017, Biden was named Presidential Practice Professor at Penn.

00:46:22.440 So, he wasn't a professor at the University of Pennsylvania.

00:46:25.860 So, yeah.

00:46:27.320 And then he says, Trump did say there were very fine people on both sides,

00:46:30.040 literally just a complete and total lie that we have on camera.

00:46:34.540 So, they were community organising in Discord chats,

00:46:37.980 and trying to actively bus people out to Harris rallies to create the perception of popular support

00:46:41.880 when she had absolutely nobody.

00:46:44.480 Weird that.

00:46:45.300 And they also used this weird app called Reach.

00:46:47.580 This is like a progressive organising app.

00:46:51.480 And they used it to coordinate campaign posts.

00:46:53.320 So, X introduced this thing called Radar, apparently,

00:46:55.600 that allows you to see how many posts are using the same phrases or topics.

00:47:00.040 So, Reddit Lies just used Radar to search for phrases like,

00:47:03.660 Kamala Harris will deliver new opportunities for Latino men and communities.

00:47:06.640 And there were 114 posts over a three-day period with that exact sentence.

00:47:11.520 So, anytime you think this is bots, no, this is just brain-rot Democrat activists

00:47:15.480 sitting there posting the exact same thing because they're genuinely real-life NPCs.

00:47:19.080 Too cheap to even hire bots.

00:47:20.580 Yeah.

00:47:21.140 And all of Harris' rallies appear to be their inorganic spawn points.

00:47:25.180 They had to do this because when they decided to post memes themselves,

00:47:28.460 they decided to post stuff like this.

00:47:32.240 I'm not reading all that.

00:47:33.860 It's a wall of text.

00:47:34.740 Happy Impact Fond.

00:47:35.540 You're sad, whichever it is you're looking for.

00:47:38.380 Your nan on Facebook wouldn't post that.

00:47:40.520 No.

00:47:40.700 They're far more inventive than that.

00:47:42.280 So, absolutely embarrassing and appalling.

00:47:44.600 And then the Harris campaign actually manipulated Reddit

00:47:46.680 because that's the only place that people vote for Kamala Harris.

00:47:49.460 Go on.

00:47:49.900 So, this is Reddit Lies.

00:47:50.900 It's his specialty.

00:47:52.180 Despite his fervent belief that something was amiss,

00:47:53.740 he never had any concrete proof that Democrats were actively manipulating social media.

00:47:56.840 But two weeks ago, and this was on October the 29th,

00:47:59.940 when Harris had that massive AstroTurf rally,

00:48:03.000 an ex-user called Jesse Princey replied to one of his posts

00:48:05.480 with a screenshot from a Discord server related to the Harris-Waltz campaign,

00:48:08.860 and he discovered massive AstroTurfing campaigns across multiple platforms.

00:48:12.220 In one case, there was a team of volunteers who spam social media posts

00:48:15.740 that specifically promote Kamala.

00:48:17.440 They then have other users pretend to be random individuals

00:48:19.640 who just happen to come across the post and decide to comment.

00:48:22.000 And it's basically like a shady company putting a bunch of fake Amazon product reviews

00:48:26.200 to make it seem better and more popular than it is.

00:48:29.200 So, apparently, the politics subreddit on Reddit

00:48:30.840 was being targeted by a Harris-Waltz campaign.

00:48:34.380 Since the Reddit operation started,

00:48:36.380 it developed an organisational structure with roles for team members,

00:48:39.140 spreadsheets for tracking analytics,

00:48:40.420 and key messaging to stick to when making a social media post.

00:48:43.560 It found that 126 of the top 1,000 posts in the past month on r slash politics

00:48:49.240 were posted by official Harris-Waltz campaign volunteers.

00:48:53.020 So, that's over 10% of the top trending posts.

00:48:55.680 It's a witness of the election.

00:48:56.620 Yeah, it's literally being posted by the government.

00:48:58.340 What a waste of time and energy.

00:49:00.020 Just, social media, ladies and gentlemen, is not real.

00:49:02.840 Like, the feds are controlling at least 10% of all the posts, you see.

00:49:05.820 Hang on, hang on.

00:49:06.880 No, no, I totally agree that, like, social media is worthwhile.

00:49:10.100 Just Reddit is not social media that's worthwhile.

00:49:12.040 Yes, okay.

00:49:12.540 You want Twitter, you want Facebook, you want YouTube.

00:49:15.480 It's worthwhile, but any time you get some spiteful, resentful idiot

00:49:19.580 in your comment section going,

00:49:20.940 no, no, no, did you consider Trump's a fascist?

00:49:22.480 It's like, okay, go tell your handlers I said hi.

00:49:24.800 The unwashed Reddit users and not the people you need to win over.

00:49:29.000 Yeah, so Harris for President staffers like Gabriel Lin

00:49:31.680 post daily messaging guidance, well, they did,

00:49:34.480 because obviously she lost, to the server's Reddit channel.

00:49:36.760 It consists of articles and data that the Harris-Waltz campaign

00:49:38.980 wants to boost as well as key messaging that Reddit volunteers

00:49:41.660 should stick to, and he found her LinkedIn profile

00:49:44.260 just to prove her exactly who this person was.

00:49:47.940 So there's just loads of these people, pronouns and bio, of course,

00:49:50.880 sitting in a Discord server, racking up, at the start of the day,

00:49:54.440 a spreadsheet titled Reddit Organizing

00:49:56.940 with favorable messages and news stories for the Harris-Waltz campaign,

00:50:01.380 and getting their resentful gremlins who have no job

00:50:03.760 and have nothing to do except posts on Reddit all day

00:50:05.500 to go out and just disseminate these posts across Reddit and upvote them.

00:50:08.460 This is like Rod and Todd from The Simpsons.

00:50:11.260 We're winning the election.

00:50:13.760 You're not doing that.

00:50:15.880 Kamala's lead posters, who have demonstrated a, quote,

00:50:18.280 cultural knowledge of Reddit.

00:50:22.500 Samson is cackling.

00:50:25.240 We just hear him bellowing laughter at the other room.

00:50:28.480 I wouldn't put that on your CV, gents.

00:50:30.740 They then choose links which will resonate best with different Reddit communities.

00:50:34.060 For example, a link about, quote, how Project 2025 impacts reproductive health

00:50:38.820 is directed towards communities with young women as their primary voter base,

00:50:41.960 whereas news about Kamala's Fox interview, quote,

00:50:44.220 winning over swing state voters, gets directed to Reddit's Democrat communities

00:50:47.860 and people living in swing states.

00:50:49.460 And they had a massive list of all of the respective swing state Reddit accounts,

00:50:54.000 which for some reason have them.

00:50:55.960 I don't know why you're on Reddit in the first place, but there you go.

00:50:59.280 After the links were collected and categorized,

00:51:00.780 volunteer, quote, unquote, posters take a handful of the links provided

00:51:03.840 and post them to their assigned subreddits.

00:51:06.080 Kamala's posters don't simply spam links haphazardly.

00:51:08.740 They use a calculated sequential post timing metric

00:51:11.000 to avoid Reddit's built-in spam filters.

00:51:13.440 So the Reddit mods, so probably people knowledgeable of Reddit,

00:51:17.740 are coordinating with the government and the Harris campaign

00:51:19.540 to circumvent Reddit's anti-spam features,

00:51:21.820 to manipulate Reddit, to, what, convince the Democrats they're about to win

00:51:25.820 when only Redditors vote for Kamala?

00:51:27.700 Like, what a waste of that.

00:51:29.540 I just don't understand what the purpose of this is.

00:51:32.540 We clearly know why they chose Kamala Harris now

00:51:34.920 to retain all that Biden war chest money,

00:51:36.580 because that's what it's been spent on.

00:51:38.740 Reddit organizing.

00:51:40.980 How embarrassing.

00:51:42.540 Over 15 days, this group of volunteers,

00:51:44.560 directed by the Harris-Waltz campaign,

00:51:46.400 made 2,551 posts to Reddit.

00:51:49.540 Get nothing to brag about.

00:51:50.900 So far, they've received more than 5.7 million upvotes

00:51:53.380 and 418,000 comments on these posts,

00:51:55.600 according to their own data.

00:51:56.440 In the twilight days of the election,

00:51:58.260 Harris staffers were posting approximately 120 unique links to Reddit per day,

00:52:02.600 using their oh-so-cleverly named

00:52:03.900 please-upvote-these spreadsheet.

00:52:06.060 He, Reddit-lies, filtered information to find posts

00:52:08.700 exclusively made by Harris-Waltz campaign volunteers.

00:52:11.420 I found 1,728 posts created by 67 unique Harris-Waltz campaign volunteers

00:52:16.760 since October the 4th, many of which received a lot of traction in a very short time span.

00:52:21.080 Just a quick thing.

00:52:22.140 The phrase Reddit organizing is going to become a byword for pointless activity.

00:52:28.860 And how many people do you actually reach with this?

00:52:32.220 I mean, this is...

00:52:33.080 I still believe that she probably would have...

00:52:36.580 I mean, if anybody would ever ask me what ultimately sealed the...

00:52:40.380 I mean, I always said that Trump is going to lose,

00:52:41.720 but that it's just because I believe in the jinx.

00:52:44.160 So I always said, I hope he's going to win, but I...

00:52:46.700 Oh, I was skeptical too.

00:52:48.480 Yes, aim low, be surprised.

00:52:49.720 Yes, and I didn't want people to gloat at me and say,

00:52:51.900 oh, Ralph, you said he's going to win.

00:52:53.540 I did exactly the same thing.

00:52:55.360 Especially after 2020, I'm like, right, okay.

00:52:57.880 There may not be shenanigans.

00:52:59.800 I'm not going to be like...

00:53:00.760 Because, I mean, you're looking at the indications.

00:53:03.660 The fact that Trump was at 50-50 in the polls

00:53:05.500 indicated to me that Trump was way higher in the polls.

00:53:08.560 And actually, this was, you know,

00:53:10.280 it looked like it was going to be a Trump blowout.

00:53:11.860 But I didn't want to say it, because I didn't want people going to say it.

00:53:13.480 But I think what really took her down,

00:53:15.840 or maybe you could say what revealed what's going to be her undoing,

00:53:20.400 was the whole, let's call it the Joe Rogan affair.

00:53:23.120 This whole, he invited her, and then her team said,

00:53:26.480 oh, no, no, you come to us, and we're going to do an hour at best.

00:53:30.400 Because the argument, whether somebody made it or not, I don't know,

00:53:33.360 but it's, okay, if you cannot do a three-hour-friendly podcast interview,

00:53:37.260 how are you going to negotiate, you know, with Xi or with Putin?

00:53:41.200 Or, like, you don't believe it.

00:53:43.040 Moreover, why don't you want the public to see what you're actually like?

00:53:47.220 Why are you being secretive about your own personality?

00:53:50.360 You know, it's suspicious.

00:53:52.840 And the final thing I'll mention as well is, of course,

00:53:54.660 we've already mentioned foreign election interference.

00:53:56.620 They were also using the Discord server to try and circumvent FEC rules

00:54:02.620 about political donation limits and from foreign sources

00:54:06.040 and get a bunch of Canadians and other foreigners over to do phone calls

00:54:11.540 and canvassing for Kamala Harris.

00:54:13.740 So, clearly, it only matters when the Russians apparently buy Facebook ads

00:54:17.560 in favour of Donald Trump or something.

00:54:19.860 Anyway, look, I made this segment just so you know that

00:54:22.540 be on the watch over the next few days for media manipulation,

00:54:25.260 these sort of spontaneous protests that appear out of nowhere

00:54:27.840 in contravention to the fact that Trump won the popular vote

00:54:30.260 and realise that the only people that support a candidate

00:54:32.860 as morally bankrupt as Kamala Harris

00:54:34.920 are filthy, unwashed Redditors who need to get a job.

00:54:38.600 There was one comment by Lady Kildragon.

00:54:41.440 Yeah.

00:54:41.820 Can I...

00:54:42.940 Yeah, yeah, go ahead.

00:54:44.000 Because I think she makes...

00:54:45.800 Some Republicans are wolves in sheep's clothing.

00:54:47.960 I think that's such an important point because one of the things,

00:54:51.340 again, which makes me...

00:54:52.880 I'm not having a cult of personality.

00:54:54.760 Like, if Trump is not going to deliver, I'm sure we'll be as critical of him

00:54:58.140 as we would be of anybody else.

00:54:59.780 But he did force many to reveal where they truly stand.

00:55:04.080 And you had then the bulwark crowd, the dispatch crowd.

00:55:07.200 And I have to admit, people whose books I read, like Jonah Goldberg,

00:55:09.880 who I had tremendous respect for.

00:55:12.360 But the kind of idea that they had that you can reduce the Republican Party

00:55:17.100 or the Republican or conservative intellectual to being only good

00:55:20.900 in writing graceful concession speeches, is just not enough.

00:55:24.920 People also want to win.

00:55:25.900 Like, they want to be...

00:55:26.420 David French model.

00:55:27.120 Yeah, exactly.

00:55:27.720 You want to be empowered sometimes.

00:55:29.300 A cockchair Republican.

00:55:30.460 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:55:31.280 And I didn't know about this person until recently.

00:55:35.080 You know this person better than I do.

00:55:37.240 Rory Stewart.

00:55:38.420 Yep.

00:55:38.800 So that is what once qualified as a conservative.

00:55:42.720 Still does.

00:55:43.480 Still does.

00:55:44.140 Yes.

00:55:44.340 That is quite...

00:55:45.020 Quite possibly emblematic of the conservatives, actually.

00:55:48.160 I mean, that tells you everything about the Tories

00:55:49.640 that you need to know.

00:55:50.520 It really does.

00:55:52.740 Bobad says,

00:55:54.160 Is it known how many people Tim Wilde Stallion walls pulled

00:55:57.160 from an Indigo girl concert?

00:55:59.460 I don't know that reference.

00:56:00.660 No.

00:56:00.980 I like his other one, though.

00:56:02.500 Can we cross-check the users in these Kamala Reddit threads

00:56:04.960 with r slash cockle

00:56:06.060 and see if the users recently purchased nice new chairs?

00:56:09.620 You know, I think that technically is possible.

00:56:11.380 I don't use Reddit, but I understand you can do that.

00:56:13.620 Someone get on that and see how many other subreddits

00:56:16.120 these accounts have subscribed to if they're public.

00:56:18.320 Anyway.

00:56:19.540 So, Ralph, have you ever listened or watched a podcast

00:56:23.340 called The Rest is Politics?

00:56:25.680 I heard of it.

00:56:26.760 I'm a huge fan of The Rest is History.

00:56:29.640 Really?

00:56:30.880 But...

00:56:31.520 And I think that's Rory Stewart and Alistair Campbell, right?

00:56:35.620 The Rest is Politics is indeed Rory Stewart and Alistair Campbell.

00:56:38.780 So there's this very pretentious trend

00:56:41.180 that the new men of the early 2000s consensus

00:56:44.440 have stumbled into as they got older.

00:56:47.260 Cycling dads, basically.

00:56:48.380 They're cycling dads.

00:56:49.300 They're very above the clouds.

00:56:51.860 Yeah.

00:56:52.280 They've decided,

00:56:53.460 well, if we call all of our podcasts

00:56:55.540 The Rest is and then football, politics, history, whatever,

00:56:59.560 blah, blah, blah,

00:56:59.980 then that makes us sound like we're really clever

00:57:02.600 and we're ahead of the game.

00:57:04.340 We are the fountainhead

00:57:05.400 from which the first principles of this particular topic spring.

00:57:11.840 And therefore, everything that just flows down from that

00:57:13.540 will sort itself out because it's inevitable

00:57:15.300 from what we have analysed at the very font of it.

00:57:19.180 And I find this a particularly loathsome and pretentious way

00:57:24.180 of approaching any subject.

00:57:25.400 I actually kind of hate it and I love it

00:57:27.740 when they step on the rake and it smacks them in the face.

00:57:29.980 Absolutely.

00:57:30.080 It's the twin arse cheek of the sort of mock the weak,

00:57:33.320 have I got news for you,

00:57:34.420 IQI,

00:57:35.480 sidonic eyebrow raise approach to politics

00:57:38.040 where everything's like,

00:57:38.980 oh, you care about your country having borders?

00:57:41.180 Really?

00:57:41.960 But also the sort of like,

00:57:43.200 well, we predicted all of this in advance,

00:57:44.800 you know,

00:57:45.120 that kind of,

00:57:46.000 yeah, exactly.

00:57:47.300 It's awful.

00:57:48.460 It's awful.

00:57:49.060 It's the 2000s,

00:57:49.920 new men who are just sat there

00:57:51.820 patting themselves on the back

00:57:52.760 so we're so right about everything.

00:57:53.860 We're such good people.

00:57:55.420 No, you aren't.

00:57:56.240 And no, you weren't.

00:57:57.400 And they, of course, on this,

00:57:58.880 this is a very popular podcast in Britain.

00:58:00.640 Very popular.

00:58:01.480 It's like one of the top three podcasts in Britain,

00:58:03.520 which I can't imagine,

00:58:06.300 I know I can imagine the kind of person

00:58:07.640 who watches this actually.

00:58:09.900 Lib Dem voters.

00:58:10.740 Lib Dem voting Blairite types

00:58:12.840 who, you know,

00:58:14.060 they're going to be doing quite well.

00:58:15.420 They're probably in about 70, 80K a year.

00:58:17.320 They're going to be some middle manager somewhere.

00:58:19.240 And, you know,

00:58:20.120 they're doing quite well.

00:58:21.280 And they've thought of themselves

00:58:22.320 as a good person their whole life

00:58:23.600 because they're very progressive.

00:58:24.640 But it fits.

00:58:25.160 It fits.

00:58:25.540 I think one of the few groups

00:58:27.300 where Kamala Harris was actually doing quite well

00:58:29.440 were high-income atheists.

00:58:31.740 Yeah, I bet.

00:58:32.200 And I think,

00:58:33.060 I guess that those two gentlemen were...

00:58:35.340 But that's the problem

00:58:37.420 more in UK politics, I believe,

00:58:40.380 than in any other

00:58:41.580 of the major countries of the West

00:58:43.360 at the moment is.

00:58:44.280 You have,

00:58:44.660 if you look at people who voted for Labour,

00:58:46.300 basically Labour is now

00:58:47.340 the high-income elite party.

00:58:49.620 And then you have

00:58:50.680 the so-called Conservative Party

00:58:53.120 who would still like to be

00:58:55.260 the high-income elite party.

00:58:57.100 So you have two parties

00:58:58.680 that kind of compete

00:58:59.640 for some upper-class

00:59:02.300 sliver of the electorate

00:59:04.680 and they leave behind

00:59:06.000 a significant part of the,

00:59:07.920 I guess what we would call

00:59:08.780 the common British British people.

00:59:11.460 Yeah.

00:59:12.000 And that's...

00:59:12.920 And I partially understand it

00:59:14.320 because the Americans,

00:59:16.740 at least since Andrew Jackson,

00:59:18.380 know how populism works.

00:59:20.300 We in the German-speaking world,

00:59:21.700 well, you know,

00:59:22.160 we had our experience with populists

00:59:23.680 one way or another.

00:59:24.420 But I think,

00:59:26.100 and I say this as somebody

00:59:27.000 who loves the British people,

00:59:28.800 but populism,

00:59:30.420 it's just,

00:59:32.060 this is not how the British,

00:59:33.420 I would say, do things.

00:59:34.340 I think it's shifting,

00:59:36.320 but this is, I think,

00:59:37.080 why the British have

00:59:37.800 sometimes a harder time with it.

00:59:39.600 Even with Nigel Farage,

00:59:42.060 he's like,

00:59:42.980 he's trying to be,

00:59:44.940 to fill the world,

00:59:45.500 but then he's,

00:59:46.380 oh, but I would never do anything

00:59:47.660 with, you know,

00:59:47.980 the AFD in Germany

00:59:49.000 or Marine Le Pen.

00:59:50.660 Class issues as well.

00:59:51.740 Exactly.

00:59:53.040 So basically,

00:59:54.480 in the late 90s

00:59:55.820 and early 2000s,

00:59:57.580 Tony Blair managed to capture

00:59:58.960 a large section of the population

01:00:01.220 through the way

01:00:02.500 that they were raised.

01:00:03.380 And I was a part of this,

01:00:04.820 you know,

01:00:04.980 I was growing up in this time

01:00:06.060 and I'm a product

01:00:07.440 of the Tony Blair education system.

01:00:09.520 So take that for what you want.

01:00:11.240 But basically,

01:00:12.320 I think you can summarize them

01:00:13.540 as sort of

01:00:14.120 single degree holding

01:00:15.940 middle class aspirants, right?

01:00:18.580 Their parents

01:00:19.820 probably weren't middle class.

01:00:21.840 But thanks to Thatcher

01:00:23.080 raising lots of people

01:00:24.420 out of poverty

01:00:25.660 and Tony Blair being like,

01:00:27.560 right,

01:00:27.680 we're opening the universities.

01:00:28.920 You have this cohort of people

01:00:30.160 who do not have

01:00:30.780 an ancestral pedigree

01:00:32.040 and who are therefore

01:00:34.360 on this kind of

01:00:35.300 precarious position

01:00:36.480 when it comes to social status.

01:00:38.600 And what Tony Blair did

01:00:40.280 is make middle class politics

01:00:42.420 something akin to

01:00:44.100 kind of a high social status position.

01:00:46.940 And in the early 2000s,

01:00:48.060 you had a lot of media

01:00:49.060 that would reinforce

01:00:50.340 this attitude.

01:00:51.400 And this is where

01:00:51.840 the sort of QI

01:00:53.140 mock the weak

01:00:54.940 type of person comes in

01:00:56.340 where politics

01:00:57.480 is just assumed

01:00:58.360 to have been

01:00:59.120 essentially established.

01:01:01.240 And then like

01:01:02.180 further down the line,

01:01:04.240 if you're not getting it,

01:01:05.180 if you're not with the program,

01:01:05.980 then you're just a moron.

01:01:07.080 You deserve condescension

01:01:07.920 if you haven't got

01:01:08.580 the latest NPC update.

01:01:09.780 Exactly.

01:01:10.400 And so the sort of

01:01:10.940 love actually types

01:01:11.920 think of themselves

01:01:12.840 as being at the head of this.

01:01:14.960 And then you've got

01:01:15.720 the sort of

01:01:16.080 mock the weak sweepers

01:01:17.480 at the back

01:01:17.960 just laughing at whatever

01:01:19.320 falls through the cracks.

01:01:20.440 And this is why

01:01:21.200 someone like Rory Stewart

01:01:21.980 and Alistair Campbell

01:01:22.700 can have a podcast together

01:01:24.160 because fundamentally

01:01:24.860 neoliberals and neoconservatives

01:01:26.420 don't disagree on much.

01:01:28.620 They disagree on

01:01:29.180 maybe economic means,

01:01:30.740 but as soon as the Iraq war

01:01:31.820 is launched,

01:01:32.240 they both agree

01:01:33.040 that they are

01:01:33.600 the sort of

01:01:33.940 liberal administrators

01:01:34.680 of the end of history

01:01:35.580 and all they need to do

01:01:37.260 is roll it out

01:01:38.480 by leafleting campaigns

01:01:41.060 and Lockheed Martin missiles

01:01:42.780 to the rest of the backwaters

01:01:44.480 that just don't understand it yet.

01:01:45.880 I will leap to

01:01:48.220 Rory Stewart's defense.

01:01:49.220 He was against the Iraq war

01:01:50.320 whereas Alistair Campbell

01:01:51.660 was literally the government's

01:01:53.140 prime cheerleader

01:01:53.900 of the Iraq war.

01:01:54.860 Then he went to Afghanistan

01:01:55.800 and tried to do

01:01:56.360 the exact same thing

01:01:57.340 with goat herders

01:01:58.000 in the hills.

01:01:58.540 Sure.

01:01:59.100 But even in a way,

01:01:59.960 the Iraq war

01:02:00.680 was a complete catastrophe

01:02:01.920 and a million people died.

01:02:03.720 It was terrible.

01:02:04.820 So the fact that

01:02:05.740 Rory Stewart can just sit down

01:02:06.860 with one of the architects

01:02:08.140 of Britain's involvement

01:02:09.140 in the Iraq war

01:02:09.820 and be like,

01:02:10.580 yeah,

01:02:10.660 well,

01:02:10.840 we're good people,

01:02:11.440 aren't we?

01:02:11.620 He's like,

01:02:12.260 you think he's a good person?

01:02:13.840 You were against this

01:02:14.860 at the time.

01:02:16.260 Like,

01:02:16.500 why on earth

01:02:17.420 can you sit opposite this guy

01:02:18.820 and be like,

01:02:19.200 yeah,

01:02:19.340 no,

01:02:19.480 it's totally fine?

01:02:20.400 And Alistair Campbell

01:02:21.020 is a vile person anyway.

01:02:23.300 But the point is,

01:02:24.260 as you said,

01:02:24.700 they're both,

01:02:25.340 well,

01:02:25.660 as I was saying,

01:02:26.780 they're both

01:02:27.440 early 2000s new men.

01:02:29.820 They're atheists.

01:02:31.060 They are agreeing on,

01:02:33.060 they agree on all of the premises

01:02:34.380 of politics

01:02:35.180 and therefore they can sit themselves

01:02:36.800 and say,

01:02:37.040 oh,

01:02:37.060 the rest is politics.

01:02:38.960 It's very,

01:02:39.520 very pretentious.

01:02:40.060 And so it was glorious

01:02:42.320 watching them

01:02:43.160 come into this election cycle

01:02:45.960 because they were like,

01:02:46.800 nope,

01:02:47.480 Donald Trump had a surprise win in 2016,

01:02:50.220 but Joe Biden crushed him

01:02:51.720 and the winning for the left

01:02:53.400 is going to continue forever.

01:02:55.200 And so you can see here,

01:02:56.040 Alistair Campbell,

01:02:56.840 only a few days before the election,

01:02:59.080 no,

01:02:59.700 Elon Musk is getting more desperate

01:03:01.140 as reality bites.

01:03:02.740 Trump is losing

01:03:03.620 and he knows it,

01:03:04.800 which is why the ex-Shills

01:03:06.200 and the charlatans

01:03:07.040 have been told to fake the vibe

01:03:08.640 so stop the steal

01:03:09.700 gets activated

01:03:10.760 even earlier

01:03:11.560 than the last time he lost.

01:03:12.780 In the back of my head,

01:03:13.460 all that's playing is

01:03:14.060 dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun.

01:03:15.560 Yeah,

01:03:15.940 yeah,

01:03:16.140 yeah,

01:03:16.320 yeah,

01:03:16.580 yeah,

01:03:16.780 yeah,

01:03:16.860 yeah.

01:03:17.600 All of the mounting

01:03:18.420 is just,

01:03:19.540 it carries on,

01:03:20.940 right?

01:03:21.880 One day to go,

01:03:23.140 the Kamala sun

01:03:23.960 rising to chase

01:03:25.120 those Trumpian clouds away.

01:03:27.020 He's a true believer

01:03:27.920 at this point.

01:03:28.600 Like,

01:03:28.720 his entire feed

01:03:29.480 is him

01:03:30.000 posting about Kamala

01:03:31.060 or retweeting

01:03:31.900 things about Kamala.

01:03:33.100 But that's another,

01:03:33.960 this is,

01:03:34.560 I think it was

01:03:35.080 somebody who we talked about

01:03:36.660 in the show previously,

01:03:37.460 but this is one of the points,

01:03:38.640 I think,

01:03:38.840 where James Lindsay is right.

01:03:39.840 I mean,

01:03:39.980 there is this iron law

01:03:40.980 of woke projection,

01:03:42.140 especially with a personality cult.

01:03:45.080 You have it on both sides,

01:03:46.900 but these,

01:03:47.500 as you say,

01:03:48.060 these are the supposedly

01:03:49.280 smart people,

01:03:50.300 right?

01:03:50.440 These are the people

01:03:51.020 that are supposedly,

01:03:52.100 not the,

01:03:53.400 as you would say,

01:03:54.500 and we wouldn't say that,

01:03:55.520 but these from,

01:03:56.580 you know,

01:03:56.720 the lower socioeconomic classes

01:03:58.240 who tend to,

01:03:58.860 it's a political,

01:03:59.280 no,

01:03:59.540 as you say,

01:04:00.060 these people get up

01:04:00.940 in the morning and say,

01:04:01.900 I would never subscribe

01:04:02.820 to a personality cult.

01:04:03.960 And then they tweet

01:04:04.740 about the Kamala sun rising.

01:04:07.220 And to be quite honest,

01:04:08.620 there are people

01:04:09.820 who deserve our admiration.

01:04:11.740 So a certain level of,

01:04:12.700 if people do good things,

01:04:13.940 if they're,

01:04:14.280 I think a certain degree

01:04:15.520 of personality cult is okay.

01:04:16.700 But let's be honest,

01:04:17.980 Kamala was an empty suit

01:04:19.140 and I don't mean

01:04:20.480 to be disrespectful.

01:04:21.520 I think he has a very good

01:04:22.180 relation with his son,

01:04:22.940 which is great,

01:04:23.560 but Tim Waltz is a moron.

01:04:25.520 And Tim Waltz is not nearly

01:04:26.840 as likable

01:04:27.660 as they thought he was.

01:04:28.620 That's the next point.

01:04:29.280 And they went out there

01:04:31.140 and pretended that they are.

01:04:33.000 And this is the odd thing.

01:04:34.660 The point being is,

01:04:35.820 you're exactly right.

01:04:37.240 Like,

01:04:37.440 if you're a sort of MAGA boomer

01:04:39.040 who has been radicalized

01:04:40.200 by the Facebook groups

01:04:41.200 they're sat in,

01:04:42.100 posting AI slop

01:04:43.320 about how,

01:04:44.540 you know,

01:04:45.040 Trump's going to save the squirrels.

01:04:46.180 You know,

01:04:46.520 the plan is in action.

01:04:47.800 Yeah,

01:04:48.000 Trump's going to deport

01:04:49.180 the deep state

01:04:49.780 or whatever the MAGA boomer

01:04:51.820 Trust the plan.

01:04:52.740 Yeah,

01:04:52.880 exactly.

01:04:53.220 They're trusting the plan,

01:04:53.900 right?

01:04:54.300 Okay,

01:04:54.580 fine.

01:04:54.820 And, you know,

01:04:55.100 it's not good to be in that kind of

01:04:56.480 closed information environment,

01:04:57.940 but that's a person,

01:05:00.200 you know,

01:05:00.600 just sat at home on their phone.

01:05:02.680 They're not running

01:05:03.500 one of the most popular

01:05:04.320 political podcasts

01:05:05.040 in the country.

01:05:05.560 Yeah.

01:05:05.740 They author themselves

01:05:08.120 and advertise themselves

01:05:09.640 as experts on the field.

01:05:11.440 And Alistair Campbell's in government,

01:05:12.820 Rory Stewart is in government.

01:05:14.040 These are people you would think

01:05:14.960 are not total amateurs.

01:05:17.440 And yet...

01:05:18.040 But it explains

01:05:18.580 where the country is where it is.

01:05:20.180 Well,

01:05:20.380 it absolutely explains everything.

01:05:22.000 I mean,

01:05:22.160 you can see here,

01:05:22.940 Alistair Campbell,

01:05:24.020 dunking on Nigel Farage.

01:05:25.300 You can sit anywhere you like,

01:05:26.600 Nigel.

01:05:27.140 It's half full.

01:05:27.900 It wasn't.

01:05:28.580 Well,

01:05:28.740 I can see from the picture

01:05:29.640 it is not.

01:05:30.480 Calvin was there

01:05:31.360 and it was packed.

01:05:32.480 Yeah,

01:05:32.800 but the picture,

01:05:33.560 it shows that the picture

01:05:34.580 is packed.

01:05:35.320 So what are you talking about,

01:05:36.280 Alistair?

01:05:36.740 Again,

01:05:37.260 why would you post this

01:05:38.480 unless you were in a delusional

01:05:39.720 sort of cult

01:05:40.520 and you were worried

01:05:41.680 that the world didn't agree

01:05:42.880 on a subconscious level?

01:05:44.080 Can I tell a quick story

01:05:45.120 because you make such

01:05:45.840 an excellent point.

01:05:47.000 There was,

01:05:47.480 I think it was on the Daily Wire,

01:05:48.740 I'm not sure,

01:05:49.160 but they reported

01:05:49.640 that one of the problems

01:05:51.340 that Republican doorknockers

01:05:54.100 had that went from door to door

01:05:55.080 and tried to convince people

01:05:56.020 to vote for the Republicans

01:05:57.000 and what they did is they said,

01:05:58.680 well,

01:05:58.960 consider voting for Donald Trump

01:06:00.080 because here are some

01:06:00.860 of the things that Democrats

01:06:01.740 want to do

01:06:02.420 and that Democrats have done

01:06:03.240 in the past.

01:06:03.760 Like,

01:06:03.900 for example,

01:06:04.300 when Kamala Harris came out

01:06:05.300 for sex change operations

01:06:09.420 for arrest,

01:06:11.440 and people said

01:06:13.100 that can't be true.

01:06:14.200 Yes.

01:06:14.980 So,

01:06:15.060 and the left has been running

01:06:17.100 on this sort of ticket

01:06:18.080 for a long time.

01:06:18.820 No one would do that.

01:06:19.860 No one would do that.

01:06:20.760 Well,

01:06:21.320 no,

01:06:21.640 we don't believe it.

01:06:22.440 And as you say,

01:06:23.020 right,

01:06:23.120 this is the great thing

01:06:25.900 about,

01:06:26.940 and for me,

01:06:27.360 Trump is still more a symptom

01:06:28.520 than a cause or something.

01:06:29.980 He's just happened to be,

01:06:31.020 he's the imperfect vessel

01:06:32.360 for an incredibly important message

01:06:34.360 is that he ripped off the mask.

01:06:36.940 No,

01:06:37.340 no,

01:06:37.500 there is real insanity

01:06:39.200 on the left

01:06:40.340 and there is a considerable number

01:06:42.920 of people on the right

01:06:43.960 who were willing

01:06:44.620 to go along with it.

01:06:45.860 It was always on the right

01:06:46.760 there were all these articles,

01:06:47.940 this is not going to be

01:06:48.900 the hill I die on.

01:06:49.720 Now,

01:06:49.760 this had been for 30 years,

01:06:50.800 right?

01:06:50.960 So,

01:06:51.160 oh,

01:06:51.400 same-sex marriage,

01:06:52.060 oh,

01:06:52.160 this is not the hill

01:06:52.740 I'm going to die on.

01:06:53.740 The transition,

01:06:54.340 oh,

01:06:54.420 this is not going to be

01:06:55.020 the hill I'm going to die on.

01:06:56.360 Illegal immigration,

01:06:57.120 this is not the hill

01:06:57.600 I'm going to die on.

01:06:58.200 And of course,

01:06:58.520 people at some point said,

01:06:59.380 okay,

01:06:59.520 if you're a conservative,

01:07:00.140 what exactly now

01:07:01.000 is the hill

01:07:01.560 you're going to die on?

01:07:02.640 You constantly voted

01:07:03.740 and this was the big difference.

01:07:05.040 Mark Stein used to say

01:07:05.840 that there's a difference

01:07:06.560 between in power

01:07:07.580 and being in office.

01:07:09.020 And the pre-Trump Republicans

01:07:10.600 were very often in office

01:07:11.820 but they were never

01:07:12.820 really in power

01:07:13.600 and he had these promises

01:07:14.880 to change that.

01:07:15.880 That explains his appeal.

01:07:18.040 And if some people

01:07:18.920 kind of fall a little bit

01:07:19.960 into a personality cult

01:07:21.940 on the right,

01:07:22.720 sure,

01:07:22.980 that's part of politics

01:07:23.840 but the left should not act

01:07:25.260 as if it's not happening

01:07:26.060 on their side too.

01:07:27.200 I mean,

01:07:27.520 if you,

01:07:28.060 your viewers don't have this,

01:07:28.820 the German-speaking newspapers

01:07:30.780 were absolutely mad.

01:07:33.160 Like the title page

01:07:34.120 they had from the Stern

01:07:35.580 it was insane.

01:07:37.860 My favorite one

01:07:38.720 was at the Sutertuch

01:07:41.480 Will She Deliver Us From Evil?

01:07:44.040 And the Stern

01:07:45.700 had Kamala Harris

01:07:47.220 as the Lady of Liberty,

01:07:51.420 the Statue of Liberty

01:07:51.980 and that she will redeem us

01:07:54.020 and all this.

01:07:54.520 So this was complete madness.

01:07:56.880 Just a quick thing.

01:07:57.420 I saw American liberals

01:08:00.380 retweeting,

01:08:01.380 I don't know if it was Spiegel

01:08:02.120 or whatever.

01:08:02.900 It's Donald Trump

01:08:04.420 with a tiny moustache

01:08:05.780 and they're like,

01:08:06.560 look,

01:08:06.940 even the Germans

01:08:07.900 are calling him Hitler

01:08:08.720 and I was just like,

01:08:09.500 listen,

01:08:09.720 I live in Germany

01:08:10.180 for eight years,

01:08:10.480 they call a lot of things Hitler.

01:08:11.720 Oh yeah.

01:08:12.660 They're a lot more quick

01:08:13.380 to call things Hitler

01:08:14.080 than you are actually

01:08:14.960 if you can believe it.

01:08:16.280 But anyway,

01:08:16.960 let's carry on.

01:08:17.760 So here's one of Rory Stewart's.

01:08:19.700 Frame it.

01:08:20.380 Yeah,

01:08:20.800 I might.

01:08:21.720 I might print this out

01:08:22.520 and put it on the wall.

01:08:23.260 So if I thought,

01:08:26.900 I mean,

01:08:27.060 maybe it's worth putting up

01:08:28.160 just a billboard

01:08:29.000 with this tweet on it.

01:08:30.540 You know,

01:08:30.840 this is how Rory Stewart thinks.

01:08:32.900 So Rory Stewart,

01:08:33.920 again,

01:08:34.160 the day before the election

01:08:35.380 was like,

01:08:35.700 look,

01:08:36.400 Kamala Harris

01:08:37.080 will win comfortably

01:08:37.900 because the Biden admin

01:08:39.200 has been solid.

01:08:40.420 It's like,

01:08:40.840 what?

01:08:41.780 Trump's lost ground

01:08:42.560 since 2016.

01:08:43.440 It's like,

01:08:43.800 what?

01:08:44.980 Young black male votes

01:08:46.120 which Trump needs

01:08:47.240 didn't turn out in 16,

01:08:48.420 18,

01:08:48.780 20 or 22.

01:08:49.720 Okay,

01:08:49.900 if they don't turn out,

01:08:50.860 then they're not going to be

01:08:51.620 voting for Harris

01:08:52.140 because they have

01:08:52.480 a higher vote share

01:08:53.220 for Harris.

01:08:53.920 And also,

01:08:54.580 young women like Kamala

01:08:55.960 and they vote.

01:08:58.220 Rory,

01:08:58.780 none of that was true.

01:09:00.000 And the thing is,

01:09:00.580 none of that's true.

01:09:01.520 You don't need special

01:09:02.500 insider knowledge

01:09:03.260 to know this either.

01:09:04.640 Biden's admin has been solid.

01:09:05.800 Well,

01:09:05.900 no one agrees with that.

01:09:06.720 As a turd.

01:09:08.980 No one agrees

01:09:09.940 that Biden's running

01:09:11.140 the country well,

01:09:11.860 which is why everything costs.

01:09:12.600 Or running the country.

01:09:13.300 Or running the country.

01:09:14.100 But,

01:09:14.420 you know,

01:09:14.960 the people around him,

01:09:16.420 everything is terrible.

01:09:17.700 Everything's falling apart.

01:09:18.600 But it's even

01:09:19.180 trying to interrupt you,

01:09:19.920 but it's even just

01:09:20.460 like Adam.

01:09:20.860 But it's even more absurd.

01:09:21.860 This gentleman

01:09:22.380 is a professor

01:09:23.560 for grand strategy.

01:09:25.140 Yeah.

01:09:26.520 Trump lost grand

01:09:27.380 since 2016.

01:09:28.120 In what way?

01:09:28.880 In 2020,

01:09:29.680 he got 12 million

01:09:31.100 more votes

01:09:32.040 than in 2016

01:09:33.120 because he ran

01:09:34.140 an incredible campaign,

01:09:35.540 which is why

01:09:36.280 it's all the more surprising

01:09:37.360 that Joe Biden

01:09:37.860 just happens to be

01:09:38.580 the most popular

01:09:39.160 person who's ever run.

01:09:41.960 No,

01:09:42.800 this is a great point.

01:09:43.580 Just that

01:09:43.840 one of the other things

01:09:44.900 when we look at

01:09:45.480 kind of why

01:09:46.000 was Trump successful

01:09:47.300 is over

01:09:48.740 particular last

01:09:49.560 four weeks

01:09:50.240 and one of

01:09:51.220 not the perfect one,

01:09:52.400 but my mother

01:09:52.860 is always a good

01:09:53.440 point of reference

01:09:54.040 for me

01:09:54.440 because for her,

01:09:56.360 even though she's

01:09:57.320 the hardest

01:09:58.180 right winger,

01:09:58.900 I know,

01:09:59.720 but for her still

01:10:00.900 the appearance,

01:10:01.640 the personality

01:10:02.120 matters quite a bit.

01:10:03.200 And she said something

01:10:04.880 kind of two weeks

01:10:05.820 before the election

01:10:06.600 that for me said,

01:10:07.340 okay,

01:10:07.460 maybe my pessimism

01:10:08.740 is not warranted.

01:10:09.760 She said,

01:10:10.180 I don't know.

01:10:11.640 I kind of find him

01:10:12.700 more likable

01:10:13.460 than last time around.

01:10:15.440 And because he had fun

01:10:17.880 over the last week,

01:10:18.860 this is what he's

01:10:20.320 campaigned brilliantly

01:10:21.560 because they still

01:10:22.880 tried to say

01:10:23.480 Trump with a dark,

01:10:25.200 angry message.

01:10:26.260 And no.

01:10:27.220 And there's just

01:10:27.600 granddad doing YMCA

01:10:28.760 on stage.

01:10:29.180 Yeah,

01:10:29.280 exactly.

01:10:30.160 Waving out of McDonald's.

01:10:31.400 Yeah,

01:10:31.540 precisely.

01:10:32.020 What are you talking about?

01:10:32.800 He found what I think

01:10:35.360 was always likable

01:10:36.320 and you think back

01:10:38.000 in the 90s

01:10:38.580 at Saturday Night Live

01:10:39.420 when he basically

01:10:40.100 spoofed himself.

01:10:41.100 This is what people

01:10:42.060 liked about him.

01:10:42.760 He's a goofy guy.

01:10:43.300 He's a goofy guy

01:10:44.080 and I think he really

01:10:45.020 found himself more now

01:10:46.600 in 2024

01:10:47.440 than he did in 2020

01:10:48.780 which was also

01:10:49.320 because of Corona

01:10:50.020 and I think over

01:10:51.620 the last four weeks

01:10:52.640 and now with the numbers

01:10:54.020 I think this was one,

01:10:55.020 not the only,

01:10:55.560 one of the reasons

01:10:55.960 why independence

01:10:56.900 started to break for him

01:10:57.860 because they said,

01:10:58.940 wait a moment,

01:10:59.440 that guy isn't so bad.

01:11:01.060 And then if you take

01:11:01.840 kind of the funny

01:11:03.360 lean back

01:11:04.540 kind of enjoying

01:11:05.220 his campaign guy

01:11:05.960 and say,

01:11:06.600 it's Hitler.

01:11:08.120 You make it even,

01:11:08.880 actually you make it

01:11:09.480 even funnier

01:11:10.020 because you look at

01:11:11.040 the guy standing

01:11:11.500 at McDonald's.

01:11:12.720 Hitler in the garbage truck.

01:11:13.900 Yeah,

01:11:14.040 exactly.

01:11:14.460 Sorry,

01:11:14.680 what are you talking about?

01:11:15.620 Trump's campaign

01:11:16.400 towards the end

01:11:16.960 just felt nostalgic.

01:11:18.780 Yes.

01:11:19.260 It just felt nice

01:11:20.360 and it was,

01:11:21.280 and I see this

01:11:22.780 as not an American

01:11:23.920 watching and thinking,

01:11:25.060 yeah,

01:11:25.140 that would be a better

01:11:25.900 America to live in,

01:11:26.800 wouldn't it?

01:11:27.340 Precisely.

01:11:27.940 And I can only imagine

01:11:29.140 how Americans

01:11:29.940 all across the country

01:11:30.860 were like,

01:11:31.480 oh yeah,

01:11:31.780 the question is,

01:11:32.440 and then you've got

01:11:32.980 Kamala Hector-ing people

01:11:34.040 on the stage.

01:11:34.600 It's like,

01:11:34.760 yeah,

01:11:34.920 no.

01:11:35.840 And Barack Obama

01:11:37.240 even worse.

01:11:38.340 Yeah,

01:11:38.600 yeah,

01:11:38.960 yeah.

01:11:39.160 The wagging of the finger

01:11:40.280 and this is what

01:11:42.060 they don't understand.

01:11:43.600 Like this,

01:11:43.840 this kind of,

01:11:44.320 this,

01:11:44.760 if you try to

01:11:45.640 blackmail or,

01:11:47.500 or,

01:11:47.580 or brownweed,

01:11:48.680 brownweed,

01:11:49.220 that's the word

01:11:49.560 I was looking for.

01:11:50.040 It's like the people

01:11:50.580 into voting for

01:11:51.480 or against someone,

01:11:52.360 it's not working.

01:11:53.300 Like nobody likes that.

01:11:54.440 And yeah.

01:11:55.240 So sorry to carry on,

01:11:56.300 but we're on time.

01:11:57.840 So in,

01:11:58.760 in response to this,

01:11:59.700 his echo chamber

01:12:01.060 chimed in,

01:12:01.820 I suspect by next week

01:12:02.800 there could be a lot

01:12:03.300 of excuse making

01:12:04.000 as people all start

01:12:04.860 to chorus,

01:12:05.480 of course the campaign

01:12:06.420 with a solid ground game

01:12:07.320 and increased support

01:12:07.900 among young women won,

01:12:08.880 just as they did in 2022.

01:12:10.080 And of course,

01:12:11.260 Rory's like,

01:12:11.680 yes,

01:12:12.180 yes,

01:12:12.500 of course this is how it is.

01:12:13.540 That's true.

01:12:14.160 Trump did have a great

01:12:15.000 ground game

01:12:15.520 and increasing support

01:12:16.300 among young women.

01:12:17.380 Yeah.

01:12:17.520 And Rory even

01:12:18.940 put a sizable bet

01:12:20.980 on this.

01:12:21.900 Now we don't know

01:12:22.480 how much

01:12:23.020 because apparently

01:12:23.580 he was going to put

01:12:24.160 on 100k,

01:12:24.900 but apparently

01:12:25.440 he wasn't allowed

01:12:26.080 to bet that amount.

01:12:27.080 I think the maximum

01:12:27.560 is about 40,000.

01:12:28.680 Right.

01:12:29.060 So Rory has lost

01:12:30.520 a significant amount

01:12:31.420 of money on this.

01:12:32.180 One, one.

01:12:32.840 Yeah.

01:12:33.580 Terrible, terrible.

01:12:34.380 This is why I'm not

01:12:34.800 a betting man,

01:12:35.320 by the way.

01:12:36.060 And so you can see

01:12:37.400 he's very committed

01:12:37.980 to his own frame.

01:12:39.520 And then the election

01:12:41.200 happened

01:12:42.340 and they were left

01:12:44.480 with a huge amount

01:12:45.920 of egg on their face.

01:12:46.760 Now, one thing

01:12:47.840 that Alistair...

01:12:49.340 Post-truth politics.

01:12:50.460 Oh, I can't swear

01:12:52.560 on this podcast.

01:12:53.600 You lied us into Iraq.

01:12:55.740 How you can even...

01:12:56.460 Hang on, hang on.

01:12:56.960 Hang on.

01:12:57.820 No, I have to be

01:12:58.820 specific about this.

01:13:00.060 Alistair didn't lie

01:13:01.240 us into Iraq.

01:13:02.100 What he was

01:13:02.620 is a WMD conspiracy theorist.

01:13:04.560 Ah, okay.

01:13:05.020 He had one piece

01:13:05.780 of information

01:13:06.380 that he didn't verify

01:13:07.520 and was told

01:13:08.920 by Tony Blair,

01:13:09.540 no, we're going

01:13:09.860 to push ourselves

01:13:10.680 into the Iraq war.

01:13:12.720 And Alistair was

01:13:13.480 the prime cheerleader

01:13:14.320 for us.

01:13:14.600 So he is essentially

01:13:15.480 the sort of WMD

01:13:17.180 QAnon believer.

01:13:18.380 He didn't lie.

01:13:19.440 He didn't lie.

01:13:20.300 He was just delusional.

01:13:21.740 Understood.

01:13:22.720 As I said,

01:13:23.320 Rory Stewart was

01:13:23.780 completely against it.

01:13:24.660 Don't know why

01:13:24.960 he's fine with Alistair.

01:13:25.800 But you can see

01:13:26.300 the usual...

01:13:28.560 I mean, you don't

01:13:28.920 even need to hear

01:13:29.640 what he's saying

01:13:30.220 to look at the demeanor

01:13:31.320 that he's putting on

01:13:33.020 as he's in the

01:13:33.540 cuck chair in the hotel.

01:13:35.440 Just...

01:13:35.920 How could it have been known?

01:13:38.740 Look how humbled

01:13:39.860 I've been by this.

01:13:41.240 Because Alistair is in this.

01:13:42.620 We don't have time

01:13:43.020 to play it.

01:13:43.460 But it's just pretending

01:13:44.360 like this couldn't

01:13:45.060 have been predicted

01:13:45.720 in advance.

01:13:46.500 It's like, Alistair,

01:13:47.460 any political commentator

01:13:48.740 worth their salt

01:13:49.280 was looking at the polls

01:13:50.040 and going,

01:13:50.340 wow, Donald Trump's

01:13:51.140 like neck and neck

01:13:51.680 with Kamala Harris

01:13:52.280 in the polls.

01:13:53.140 Now, I, as a political

01:13:54.340 commentator,

01:13:55.220 have seen other polls

01:13:56.140 in the past.

01:13:57.260 And I know

01:13:57.940 that when Donald Trump

01:13:58.980 is not massively down

01:14:00.420 in the polls,

01:14:01.180 that means Donald Trump

01:14:02.020 is up in the polls.

01:14:03.160 Because I know

01:14:03.820 that you're undersampling

01:14:04.920 his supporters

01:14:05.920 and the actual

01:14:06.960 substance of his base.

01:14:09.020 And yet, for some reason,

01:14:10.060 when it was neck and neck

01:14:10.960 in all the swing states,

01:14:11.840 Rory's like,

01:14:12.140 oh, yes,

01:14:12.560 this is Kamala Lanslake.

01:14:13.840 No, you're delusional.

01:14:14.920 You are delusional.

01:14:15.600 What are you talking about?

01:14:16.420 This is completely predictable.

01:14:17.920 And you were completely wrong.

01:14:20.620 But you were so convinced of it.

01:14:22.380 It's not that it couldn't

01:14:23.240 be seen coming.

01:14:24.300 It's that you didn't want

01:14:25.280 to see it coming.

01:14:26.520 And then you have Rory Stewart

01:14:27.560 again on the night,

01:14:28.440 which was just great.

01:14:30.200 Again, you don't need to see.

01:14:32.620 You don't need to hear

01:14:33.220 what they're saying.

01:14:33.980 You can just see

01:14:34.580 their expressions.

01:14:35.780 Didn't in this clip

01:14:36.960 he say,

01:14:38.320 well, if she had won,

01:14:40.500 I would have been right.

01:14:41.300 We will play it, yeah,

01:14:42.380 because actually

01:14:42.880 it is just so bad

01:14:44.460 that anyone would say it.

01:14:46.000 I thought it would be

01:14:47.580 over quite quickly.

01:14:48.920 We've got the sound there,

01:14:49.640 Samson?

01:14:50.260 Despite the polls showing

01:14:50.500 50-50, why?

01:14:52.420 Okay, we can't hear it.

01:14:53.440 But yes, he literally says that.

01:14:54.660 They were technical arguments

01:14:55.320 about young African voters

01:14:57.220 and how they would turn out,

01:14:58.520 her ground game,

01:15:00.360 the money,

01:15:00.920 the performance.

01:15:01.460 I'll start that.

01:15:03.340 The framing is perfect.

01:15:04.860 And I thought it would be

01:15:07.420 over quite quickly.

01:15:09.100 Despite the polls

01:15:10.040 showing 50-50,

01:15:11.320 why?

01:15:12.040 Well, I can repeat

01:15:13.100 my arguments.

01:15:14.160 They were technical arguments

01:15:15.160 about young African-American voters

01:15:17.100 and how they would turn out,

01:15:18.600 her ground game,

01:15:20.200 the money,

01:15:20.760 the performance

01:15:21.280 of Biden's administration.

01:15:22.840 It's all turned out

01:15:23.600 to be wrong,

01:15:24.280 completely wrong.

01:15:25.700 I don't think, though,

01:15:26.980 that I was fundamentally wrong

01:15:29.580 because I'm patronizing

01:15:31.080 towards people.

01:15:32.260 I never felt that.

01:15:33.160 I never felt that

01:15:33.720 as a politician in Britain.

01:15:35.020 I didn't feel I was patronizing

01:15:36.160 towards my Brexit voting constituents.

01:15:39.060 I think I was wrong

01:15:40.580 because I'm an optimist.

01:15:42.320 And I hate the idea

01:15:43.960 of being right pessimistically.

01:15:46.140 I think you can be

01:15:46.800 a false prophet and right.

01:15:48.680 You can align yourself

01:15:50.200 with the worst instincts

01:15:51.660 of humanity.

01:15:52.680 You can be a false prophet

01:15:54.300 and be right.

01:15:56.180 Rory Stewart,

01:15:57.120 professional political analyst.

01:15:58.520 But notice the Leighton

01:15:59.480 blank slate-ism in there.

01:16:00.680 It's that,

01:16:01.020 I was wrong

01:16:01.780 because I was misguided

01:16:03.480 by my fundamental belief

01:16:05.040 in the intrinsic goodness

01:16:06.460 of humanity.

01:16:07.180 Exactly.

01:16:07.580 And this divisive populist,

01:16:09.240 Donald Trump,

01:16:09.720 cast a sufficient spell

01:16:11.100 over the minds

01:16:11.920 of absolutely everyone

01:16:12.780 and they voted against

01:16:13.500 their best interest,

01:16:14.960 which was sex change surgeries

01:16:16.740 for illegal immigrants.

01:16:17.860 And the clip you're thinking of

01:16:19.620 is this particular one, actually.

01:16:20.680 Ah, yes.

01:16:21.520 But again,

01:16:23.300 I'm not patronizing.

01:16:24.640 I just think that

01:16:25.440 you can be a false prophet,

01:16:27.200 as in he was telling lies,

01:16:28.860 and still be right.

01:16:29.740 And it's like, okay,

01:16:30.400 well, we've got different

01:16:31.180 definitions of false then, right?

01:16:32.840 You're appealing some

01:16:33.720 abstract moral standard

01:16:34.660 that you've decided

01:16:35.460 a priori is the correct thing.

01:16:38.080 And if bad people win

01:16:39.840 and he literally says

01:16:40.600 the bad people have won,

01:16:41.520 it's like,

01:16:42.020 Rory, you're a liar.

01:16:43.780 You are lying to yourself.

01:16:44.860 You're lying to your audience.

01:16:45.780 And you've been keeping yourself

01:16:46.880 in this cult mentality

01:16:48.180 in order to make sure

01:16:49.740 that you didn't have

01:16:50.420 like this emotional bubble

01:16:52.000 around your heart pop.

01:16:53.300 That's what this is.

01:16:54.000 This was entirely self-serving

01:16:55.320 on your part.

01:16:56.700 And you've lost 40 grand for it.

01:16:58.200 And your credibility

01:16:58.820 is absolute tatters.

01:17:00.780 Like, you did this to yourself

01:17:02.020 for some reason.

01:17:04.240 This is just amazing.

01:17:05.380 As Dominic said earlier,

01:17:06.260 it does look like women

01:17:07.140 have not turned out

01:17:08.240 in the same numbers

01:17:09.440 as expected for her.

01:17:10.680 No, it's completely fascinating.

01:17:12.040 I mean, and of course,

01:17:13.560 when a result happens,

01:17:14.600 you rewrite history.

01:17:16.220 If she was currently winning,

01:17:17.980 we'd have a very good answer

01:17:19.000 for why she was winning.

01:17:20.120 Abortion would be...

01:17:20.940 If things were as

01:17:24.320 I'd made them up in my head,

01:17:25.920 we'd be right,

01:17:26.920 says Rory Stewart,

01:17:27.820 professional political analyst.

01:17:29.420 Like, that...

01:17:30.060 Even if they gave...

01:17:32.700 And he gives this answer,

01:17:33.380 well, what about abortion?

01:17:34.200 What about healthcare?

01:17:34.740 What about...

01:17:35.140 Even if all of these things

01:17:36.720 turned out to be true,

01:17:37.580 they would only be accidental

01:17:38.580 because Rory is not speaking

01:17:40.340 from knowledge

01:17:41.180 of the circumstances.

01:17:43.220 Rory is projecting

01:17:44.420 what he thinks

01:17:45.240 is an optimistic

01:17:46.440 political narrative,

01:17:47.520 but he's not actually

01:17:48.860 describing things

01:17:49.740 he has observed.

01:17:50.960 He's guessing.

01:17:52.020 And in this case,

01:17:52.640 his guess was completely

01:17:53.500 the other way.

01:17:54.320 But I drew Trump

01:17:55.600 as the soy jack

01:17:56.440 and Kamala as the chad.

01:17:58.300 I argue with all these chuds

01:17:59.720 in the shower.

01:18:00.560 Why have we not...

01:18:01.580 If things were as they

01:18:02.940 made them up in my head,

01:18:03.860 we'd have a very good answer

01:18:04.760 as to why she's winning.

01:18:05.960 Amazing.

01:18:07.240 He then goes on

01:18:08.500 and he has to go around

01:18:09.920 doing a media tour,

01:18:10.800 basically admitting,

01:18:11.720 yeah, I was completely wrong.

01:18:15.240 I'd become invested

01:18:16.300 in a story,

01:18:17.500 which is code for

01:18:18.960 I'd become invested

01:18:20.320 in the fiction

01:18:20.960 that I had made up

01:18:22.060 about what was happening

01:18:23.400 in a country

01:18:23.980 I don't live in.

01:18:25.140 The excrement

01:18:26.020 liberal commentariat circuit

01:18:27.780 is just the worst thing

01:18:30.060 to happen to Britain.

01:18:30.880 Times Radio,

01:18:31.700 LBC,

01:18:32.340 the rest is politics,

01:18:33.460 newsagent.

01:18:34.780 If these idiots

01:18:35.560 were not being bankrolled

01:18:36.700 by large investors,

01:18:37.780 they would not be able

01:18:38.540 to have a career.

01:18:39.320 No, absolutely not.

01:18:39.960 If they couldn't afford

01:18:40.860 national advertising,

01:18:42.060 they would have nothing.

01:18:43.460 But he says,

01:18:44.180 you know,

01:18:44.320 I was completely wrong.

01:18:44.980 Obviously,

01:18:45.240 I'm guilty of massive

01:18:46.080 wishful thinking.

01:18:47.080 It's yeah,

01:18:47.300 because you spent your time,

01:18:48.220 and he spends his time

01:18:48.860 in this clip,

01:18:49.440 moralizing like a left-wing

01:18:50.620 preacher.

01:18:51.340 He's like,

01:18:51.620 well,

01:18:51.740 I'm good.

01:18:52.320 I'm a good person.

01:18:53.420 Donald Trump is,

01:18:54.160 quote,

01:18:54.260 an extremely unpleasant

01:18:55.180 fascist.

01:18:57.400 Rory.

01:18:57.880 He's not a fascist.

01:18:58.900 Obviously.

01:18:59.600 If you had read

01:19:00.840 any political theory,

01:19:01.840 you would know

01:19:02.100 that's the case.

01:19:02.720 Yeah.

01:19:03.420 Genuinely embarrassing.

01:19:04.840 And you had people

01:19:05.860 replying to

01:19:07.440 Winston Martial here,

01:19:08.760 hang on a second,

01:19:10.100 Rory,

01:19:10.460 Stuart stuck his neck out

01:19:11.520 and made a bold prediction.

01:19:12.620 Good for him.

01:19:13.100 He got it wrong.

01:19:13.760 Hardly the end of the world.

01:19:14.960 Well,

01:19:15.600 hang on a second.

01:19:16.620 If Rory Stuart was

01:19:17.760 a Facebook MAGA boomer

01:19:19.180 who was like,

01:19:20.340 blah,

01:19:20.480 blah,

01:19:20.600 blah,

01:19:20.860 yeah,

01:19:21.100 it wouldn't be a big deal

01:19:21.880 because that's not their job

01:19:23.380 to make informed

01:19:24.900 political commentary,

01:19:26.020 but it is.

01:19:27.000 I've noticed this guy's bio.

01:19:28.980 Author of the fate of Abraham,

01:19:30.380 why the West is wrong about Islam.

01:19:32.480 Excuse me if I don't

01:19:33.460 take your judgment

01:19:34.220 as gospel on anything.

01:19:35.580 Yeah.

01:19:36.760 But that's the point,

01:19:38.020 isn't it?

01:19:38.660 And the thing is,

01:19:39.700 okay,

01:19:40.440 it's,

01:19:40.720 okay,

01:19:41.660 fair enough,

01:19:42.060 you know,

01:19:42.240 he made a wrong,

01:19:43.260 wrong,

01:19:43.740 wrong projection.

01:19:46.660 But he runs a podcast

01:19:47.860 called The Rest is Politics.

01:19:49.180 He runs a podcast

01:19:49.860 that situates itself

01:19:51.880 as the most informed podcast

01:19:53.460 and everything flows from it.

01:19:54.860 You've taken on

01:19:55.820 this unbelievable conceit

01:19:57.540 and it's all just

01:19:58.460 blown up in your face.

01:19:59.940 Your reputation

01:20:00.700 for understanding

01:20:02.140 the political environment,

01:20:03.520 at least in America,

01:20:04.540 is completely shredded.

01:20:06.180 Rory Stuart does not understand.

01:20:08.520 And it's not even that,

01:20:09.740 oh,

01:20:09.940 well,

01:20:10.220 you know,

01:20:10.400 he called the wrong state.

01:20:11.300 There were a couple of wrong states

01:20:12.280 that he called,

01:20:12.700 but generally he was in the right direction

01:20:13.960 or something like that.

01:20:14.760 No,

01:20:15.200 it was,

01:20:15.820 there's going to be a Kamala landslide

01:20:17.160 versus the Trump landslide

01:20:18.960 and complete control

01:20:19.880 of all of the sections,

01:20:21.160 all of the hierarchies

01:20:22.320 of the United States

01:20:22.980 that Trump now has.

01:20:24.500 Rory was not just wrong.

01:20:25.960 He wasn't just a little bit wrong.

01:20:27.220 He wasn't just quite wrong.

01:20:28.220 It was the complete polar opposite

01:20:29.840 of what he predicted.

01:20:31.240 And all he can come out

01:20:32.360 and say is,

01:20:32.800 well,

01:20:32.900 I just thought it'd feel nice

01:20:34.040 if I said it.

01:20:35.240 Sorry,

01:20:35.660 Rory,

01:20:35.920 you aren't an analyst.

01:20:37.300 You have no credibility

01:20:38.380 in this regard.

01:20:39.940 Absolutely none.

01:20:41.380 And so,

01:20:42.040 yeah,

01:20:42.180 it was just people,

01:20:43.860 again,

01:20:44.200 the sort of shit-lib commentariat.

01:20:47.040 Chief political commentator

01:20:48.240 on the Sunday Times

01:20:49.240 replies,

01:20:50.440 well,

01:20:50.580 yeah,

01:20:50.760 I mean,

01:20:51.080 a lot of us did not go far enough

01:20:52.720 in 2016

01:20:53.800 and got the referendum wrong.

01:20:55.220 I tried to sit in focus groups

01:20:56.520 to hear from people

01:20:57.100 with very different lives.

01:20:58.520 Bluntly,

01:20:58.800 I don't think enough hacks do this.

01:21:00.100 It amazes me

01:21:00.640 how little journalists

01:21:01.320 understand their own country.

01:21:02.600 Sitting in focus groups

01:21:03.560 isn't enough either.

01:21:05.360 You've got to go

01:21:06.280 and live among the people

01:21:08.060 to understand them.

01:21:09.840 Again,

01:21:10.160 the mindset,

01:21:11.220 and Tim here is not

01:21:12.320 by far the worst,

01:21:14.020 by far the most guilty

01:21:15.140 of all of this,

01:21:15.760 obviously.

01:21:16.660 And,

01:21:17.140 you know,

01:21:17.360 he is on the right side of,

01:21:18.580 yeah,

01:21:18.740 well,

01:21:18.840 maybe we should be listening

01:21:19.520 to the people

01:21:19.920 who actually vote.

01:21:20.880 But focus groups

01:21:21.760 are not enough.

01:21:22.960 Like,

01:21:23.200 you need to actually get out.

01:21:24.840 And just saying,

01:21:26.580 a lot of the Republicans

01:21:27.320 actually don't live in D.C.

01:21:29.200 A lot of the Republicans

01:21:29.920 actually live amongst people

01:21:31.760 in the country.

01:21:32.580 And lo and behold,

01:21:33.780 they're winning.

01:21:35.100 Anyway,

01:21:36.240 I guess we'll leave that there.

01:21:37.240 Just to summarize,

01:21:38.500 Roy Stewart and Alice Campbell

01:21:39.840 know nothing about

01:21:40.600 American politics,

01:21:42.220 which is why

01:21:42.840 they're currently

01:21:43.400 sobbing into their soy lattes

01:21:44.860 and we're taking a victory lap.

01:21:47.740 Do we have any video?

01:21:48.920 Oh, we do.

01:21:49.400 Wonderful.

01:21:53.460 And as we say

01:21:54.460 our final fond farewell

01:21:55.940 to Kamala Harris,

01:21:57.280 let's remember

01:21:57.800 that she's the ultimate expression

01:21:59.280 of the Peter Principle.

01:22:00.780 The idea that individuals

01:22:02.300 are promoted

01:22:02.920 until they reach

01:22:03.820 their level of incompetence.

01:22:05.880 And after being made VP,

01:22:07.700 well,

01:22:08.560 who do you have to blow

01:22:09.700 to be president?

01:22:11.800 I think she exceeded

01:22:13.400 the Peter Principle

01:22:14.360 long ago.

01:22:16.180 I think county clerk

01:22:17.800 in the DA's office

01:22:18.740 would have been

01:22:19.200 as far as she would have got

01:22:20.240 of her own volition.

01:22:21.400 I mean,

01:22:21.580 I think it does prove

01:22:22.520 that there isn't

01:22:23.260 a machine

01:22:24.020 operating the Democrat Party,

01:22:25.820 though.

01:22:26.020 And it really doesn't matter

01:22:26.840 who's in charge

01:22:27.600 of the machine.

01:22:28.920 The machine itself

01:22:30.000 is just throwing up

01:22:31.260 faces.

01:22:32.740 But they're not,

01:22:33.460 I mean,

01:22:33.780 nobody thinks that Kamala

01:22:34.780 was like,

01:22:35.140 right,

01:22:35.320 do this,

01:22:35.700 do that,

01:22:36.000 do the other.

01:22:36.620 No one thinks that.

01:22:37.740 And that's why

01:22:38.860 she always looked so unprepared

01:22:40.000 when she was in interviews.

01:22:41.060 That's why she had to take

01:22:41.800 multiple days off

01:22:42.520 to do one interview.

01:22:43.300 Yeah.

01:22:43.700 It's embarrassing.

01:22:44.380 He says,

01:22:45.940 you're not going

01:22:46.300 to be a dictator,

01:22:47.020 are you?

01:22:47.380 I said,

01:22:47.820 no,

01:22:48.060 no,

01:22:48.300 no,

01:22:48.580 other than day one.

01:22:51.060 All migrants,

01:22:52.300 refugees,

01:22:52.980 and dreamers

01:22:53.540 are now considered

01:22:54.540 enemies of the new America

01:22:56.100 and will be rounded up,

01:22:57.660 incarcerated,

01:22:58.580 and deported immediately.

01:23:00.240 January 6th

01:23:01.400 will now be recognized

01:23:02.420 as our great nation's birthday.

01:23:04.300 Regardless of race,

01:23:05.420 interest,

01:23:06.000 or health of the woman,

01:23:07.220 abortion is now illegal.

01:23:08.720 Due to previous

01:23:10.000 liberal indoctrination,

01:23:11.720 all schools are hereby closed.

01:23:13.520 All citizens must continue

01:23:15.240 to report any progressive

01:23:16.760 or liberal activity.

01:23:19.600 Outfaced.

01:23:20.480 I already supported him.

01:23:21.440 You didn't need to

01:23:22.080 encourage me more.

01:23:23.760 Sold.

01:23:25.180 I mean,

01:23:25.920 it's just so hysterical,

01:23:27.320 isn't it?

01:23:28.300 Unbelievable.

01:23:30.560 I recently purchased

01:23:31.680 the Magnus Archives role-playing game

01:23:33.080 and I'm running a game

01:23:33.800 for my friends set in Swindon.

01:23:35.260 It's Lovecraftian Cosmic Horror

01:23:36.420 where the cosmic entity

01:23:37.240 feeds on fear

01:23:37.960 and I'd love to use

01:23:38.780 some of the Lotus Eaters

01:23:39.580 as villains who serve

01:23:40.500 the dread powers

01:23:41.180 for this campaign.

01:23:42.300 Are you okay with this

01:23:43.160 and which entity

01:23:43.800 would you like to serve?

01:23:44.900 The fear of being buried,

01:23:45.920 the fear of decay,

01:23:46.680 the fear of the dark,

01:23:47.560 the fear of pain and loss,

01:23:48.540 the fear of death,

01:23:49.300 the fear of being watched,

01:23:50.240 the fear of body horror,

01:23:51.200 the fear of being prey,

01:23:52.260 the fear of isolation,

01:23:53.300 the fear of violence,

01:23:54.140 the fear of madness,

01:23:55.000 the fear of the uncanny,

01:23:55.980 the fear of vastness,

01:23:57.020 the fear of manipulation

01:23:57.740 and control,

01:23:58.320 or the fear of extinction?

01:24:00.100 The fear of Swindon.

01:24:01.560 I'll go for the

01:24:02.260 manipulation and control one.

01:24:03.440 I don't really fear

01:24:03.960 the other things.

01:24:05.320 I'd need to revisit them

01:24:07.440 before I possibly picked one.

01:24:09.820 Haven't played that.

01:24:10.480 Sounds interesting though.

01:24:11.240 It's easy to see

01:24:15.440 that Prime Minister Trudeau

01:24:16.720 is Canada's Tony Blair.

01:24:18.740 Pierre Poilievre

01:24:19.600 stands against him

01:24:20.480 and it's important

01:24:21.180 to realise the Canadian media

01:24:22.720 are horrid propagandists

01:24:24.080 seeking to make him

01:24:24.920 act to be a demagogue.

01:24:26.420 However,

01:24:26.920 my concern is that

01:24:27.900 he will turn into

01:24:28.680 Canada's David Cameron.

01:24:30.520 His campaign

01:24:31.200 and interactions

01:24:31.940 with the media

01:24:32.620 indicate he has no time

01:24:33.900 for Trudeau's innovations

01:24:35.020 and repealing them

01:24:36.240 is something he will have

01:24:37.100 to set about

01:24:37.660 in a very careful manner

01:24:38.840 but I'm concerned

01:24:40.080 that he won't go

01:24:40.840 as far as is needed.

01:24:41.980 The fact that he's there

01:24:43.760 with no tie.

01:24:44.980 Yeah, he also

01:24:45.620 doesn't care about

01:24:47.500 legal migration.

01:24:48.860 He only cares about

01:24:49.400 illegal migration.

01:24:50.600 And also,

01:24:52.120 to do with the trans stuff,

01:24:53.420 there was a Canadian delegation

01:24:55.360 to the first ARC

01:24:56.220 and they tried blocking

01:24:57.480 Billboard Chris from coming

01:24:58.720 because they didn't want

01:24:59.360 to talk about gender stuff.

01:25:01.740 Yeah.

01:25:03.140 Conservatives everywhere.

01:25:04.240 It's traitors.

01:25:05.440 Better at traitors.

01:25:06.460 When I went to that

01:25:07.100 COP26 thing,

01:25:08.040 the prior to

01:25:09.140 Polyev administration,

01:25:10.400 they sent their

01:25:11.160 shadow energy minister over

01:25:12.360 and he had screenshotted

01:25:13.800 as his phone background,

01:25:15.220 his vaccine passport,

01:25:16.060 and was bragging about it

01:25:16.780 to everyone.

01:25:18.940 I mean,

01:25:19.200 on the plus side though,

01:25:20.000 Polyev,

01:25:20.900 however you know his name,

01:25:21.940 is superb at dealing

01:25:23.140 with the media.

01:25:24.080 Yeah.

01:25:24.420 So,

01:25:24.860 take those lessons

01:25:25.940 from him,

01:25:26.360 I say.

01:25:27.560 With the apocalypse cancelled,

01:25:29.240 I ventured out

01:25:29.920 in search of new places

01:25:31.100 to grill.

01:25:31.900 Crossing to Virginia,

01:25:32.880 I found...

01:25:33.880 Then,

01:25:45.860 the Germans arrived.

01:25:52.940 Finally.

01:25:58.040 I do love Virginia.

01:25:59.520 Seems wholesome.

01:26:00.500 If I had to pick a state,

01:26:01.540 it'd probably be Virginia.

01:26:03.260 Yeah.

01:26:03.660 Maryland was quite nice

01:26:04.680 as well,

01:26:05.040 to be honest.

01:26:06.240 If you're not in Baltimore.

01:26:07.380 Well, yeah.

01:26:08.460 I mean,

01:26:09.120 I wouldn't live

01:26:10.480 in any American city,

01:26:11.640 Jesus.

01:26:12.220 No,

01:26:12.540 no,

01:26:12.700 not cities,

01:26:13.180 no.

01:26:13.760 On with the next one.

01:26:14.740 I just finished watching

01:26:16.000 V for Vendetta

01:26:17.480 and viewing it now

01:26:18.820 in 2024

01:26:19.540 feels quite unsettling.

01:26:21.580 The similarities

01:26:22.120 between Britain today

01:26:23.600 and the totalitarian regime

01:26:25.360 depicted in the film

01:26:26.560 are striking,

01:26:27.520 especially since the film

01:26:28.520 is set in the future

01:26:29.320 of the 2020s.

01:26:31.140 It wouldn't surprise me

01:26:32.080 if British censors

01:26:33.340 attempted to edit

01:26:34.380 some scenes

01:26:35.420 to align with

01:26:36.320 current sensibilities,

01:26:37.640 even though the regime

01:26:38.620 in the film

01:26:39.160 is far right.

01:26:40.480 It also doesn't help

01:26:41.620 that Halloween

01:26:42.220 is gradually

01:26:42.860 supplanting Guy Fawkes' night.

01:26:44.300 Yeah,

01:26:46.160 the problem with

01:26:46.620 V for Vendetta

01:26:47.200 is that the ruling party

01:26:49.380 is,

01:26:50.200 well, yeah,

01:26:50.520 Alan Moore is a demented

01:26:51.500 communist Hagrid,

01:26:52.360 but the ruling party

01:26:53.520 is entirely homogenous

01:26:55.580 and English.

01:26:57.380 Well,

01:26:57.700 and then Stephen Fry's character

01:26:59.760 is like,

01:27:00.140 I'm gay,

01:27:00.600 but did you know

01:27:01.120 I read the Quran?

01:27:02.540 Yeah, I have.

01:27:03.240 Oh, shove it up your ass,

01:27:04.540 you shitliber.

01:27:04.840 Well, again,

01:27:05.320 this is

01:27:06.480 sort of

01:27:08.320 2000s

01:27:09.480 new man shitliberi.

01:27:11.220 Yeah.

01:27:11.360 You know,

01:27:11.740 it's like,

01:27:12.340 we're right about everything

01:27:13.540 and the people who are like,

01:27:15.280 maybe we should keep

01:27:15.940 the country safe

01:27:16.820 are wrong about everything

01:27:18.060 and they're just

01:27:18.500 fascist dictators.

01:27:19.740 That's the only place to go

01:27:20.900 if you're someone

01:27:21.960 who's concerned about

01:27:22.680 law and order,

01:27:23.380 for example.

01:27:24.160 Stay tuned for when

01:27:24.880 Harry and I do our

01:27:25.640 I hate Alan Moore comics corner.

01:27:27.260 Anyway,

01:27:27.560 we've got a couple of

01:27:28.500 rumble rants

01:27:29.080 and then we'll do a couple

01:27:29.640 of comments before we wrap up

01:27:30.640 for lads hour.

01:27:32.240 Ramshakalotta

01:27:32.560 for $2.

01:27:33.280 I knew a girl

01:27:33.740 who listens to Trip,

01:27:35.280 the rest is history,

01:27:36.180 politics, sorry.

01:27:36.960 She once asked me,

01:27:37.820 like,

01:27:37.980 really?

01:27:38.280 Why can't they just

01:27:38.780 print more money

01:27:39.360 so, you know,

01:27:39.880 nobody is poor?

01:27:41.980 Wouldn't eat food

01:27:42.720 grown in her garden

01:27:43.380 because it was weird?

01:27:44.320 Well, to be fair,

01:27:45.040 I mean,

01:27:45.220 food comes from Waitrose.

01:27:48.480 Good on Dan Connor.

01:27:50.580 These people vote, man.

01:27:51.640 I saw a video on Twitter

01:27:52.800 of some, you know,

01:27:54.560 liberal in California

01:27:55.420 who wasn't eating

01:27:57.500 the apples

01:27:58.240 that was growing

01:27:58.900 on her tree

01:27:59.540 and someone was like,

01:28:00.680 why aren't you eating the apples?

01:28:01.520 I was like,

01:28:01.640 well,

01:28:01.760 don't they have to

01:28:02.280 process them or something?

01:28:03.240 He's like,

01:28:03.360 no,

01:28:03.520 you can just eat them.

01:28:04.980 Like,

01:28:05.240 just phenomenal

01:28:06.280 modern bug men

01:28:07.500 who's just like,

01:28:08.280 well,

01:28:08.520 if it's not coming

01:28:09.160 in a tin

01:28:09.680 or in a package,

01:28:10.960 I can't eat this.

01:28:11.860 The apples on the tree

01:28:12.460 are free.

01:28:12.880 The global elite

01:28:13.340 don't want you to know

01:28:13.800 that I have 4,734 apples.

01:28:15.740 She genuinely thought

01:28:16.580 that you had to do

01:28:17.320 something to the apple

01:28:18.140 to make it edible.

01:28:20.400 Americans do think

01:28:21.420 like that, though.

01:28:22.060 Like,

01:28:22.160 they chlorine wash

01:28:22.840 their chicken

01:28:23.200 and things like that.

01:28:24.140 I mean,

01:28:24.340 not all Americans do.

01:28:25.120 It's quite safe,

01:28:26.460 but, like,

01:28:27.000 you don't need

01:28:27.660 to do that.

01:28:29.080 Anyway,

01:28:29.920 Ryan Hinnigan,

01:28:31.480 the left,

01:28:32.100 why do young men

01:28:32.700 swing 32 points

01:28:34.000 from D plus 19

01:28:35.000 to R plus 13?

01:28:36.040 Men,

01:28:36.300 you stole our future,

01:28:37.020 our birthright.

01:28:37.460 Call us evil

01:28:37.900 for what we are.

01:28:38.820 Also,

01:28:39.440 the bread is expenses

01:28:40.060 and the circus is a game.

01:28:43.180 Quality comment.

01:28:44.180 And that's a random name.

01:28:44.980 It's good.

01:28:45.560 Pierre Polyeva

01:28:46.120 is 100% containment.

01:28:47.220 Maxime Bernier

01:28:47.860 was the only party leader

01:28:48.800 against the COVID madness.

01:28:49.780 Do not truff Polyeva at all.

01:28:51.480 Pray for Canada.

01:28:52.480 I like Bernier,

01:28:53.260 but he should have been

01:28:54.080 leading the Conservative Party

01:28:55.180 rather than

01:28:55.620 Mick Forman's angel.

01:28:56.520 I think Ben Dicta

01:28:57.460 has the same opinion.

01:28:58.240 He led the trucker convoy,

01:28:59.360 so I tend to take

01:29:00.440 his opinion on this.

01:29:01.980 Isaac Mayle,

01:29:02.700 hi guys,

01:29:03.140 just wanted to say

01:29:03.520 happy birthday

01:29:04.000 to the Lotus series.

01:29:04.900 Even the date itself

01:29:05.620 is during the weekend,

01:29:06.180 I wanted to take this opportunity

01:29:07.460 all for the last four years.

01:29:08.240 How Time Flies,

01:29:08.980 all the best take care, chap.

01:29:10.240 Did we have our anniversary

01:29:11.140 and we forgot?

01:29:12.260 I think so, yeah.

01:29:13.180 I'm not really one for dates.

01:29:17.920 The entire place

01:29:18.840 is held together

01:29:19.280 by duct tape and goodwill

01:29:20.240 and your donations.

01:29:21.160 Thank you for subscribing.

01:29:21.960 It's the goodwill that matters.

01:29:23.260 Mario Manzi,

01:29:23.960 really great show, guys.

01:29:25.200 It's all due to Ralph, of course.

01:29:26.560 We like having him as a guest.

01:29:27.580 Much appreciated.

01:29:28.380 It's important that the rights

01:29:29.500 Conservatives across the Western world,

01:29:30.840 despite being not particularly unified,

01:29:32.400 cannot relax.

01:29:33.020 We have to remain on war footing

01:29:34.160 and campaign every day

01:29:35.120 as if there's election tomorrow.

01:29:36.280 A great battle has been won,

01:29:37.160 but the war for the Shires

01:29:38.400 is ongoing.

01:29:39.140 Yeah, I quite like

01:29:39.760 the National Conservative Alliance

01:29:41.360 that is forming.

01:29:42.100 We just got to pick our friends.

01:29:43.040 Did you know that the Japanese

01:29:44.740 have found the Western

01:29:46.060 Shinzo Abe Trump memes?

01:29:47.560 No.

01:29:47.940 As of today,

01:29:48.660 there's loads of posts

01:29:49.380 in Japanese on X

01:29:50.440 that are like,

01:29:51.040 oh my God,

01:29:51.540 we didn't know you guys

01:29:52.280 love Shinzo Abe.

01:29:52.920 But it's the CU Space Cowboy ones

01:29:55.460 and the edits where he catches

01:29:56.240 the bullet for Trump

01:29:56.920 and things like that.

01:29:57.480 It's the picture where he's

01:29:58.520 facing down Merkel

01:29:59.500 and the only person next to him

01:30:00.680 is Shinzo.

01:30:01.620 And they're both just like,

01:30:02.880 not having it.

01:30:03.460 He deserves it.

01:30:04.140 I love it.

01:30:04.740 And Merkel's just so overbearing.

01:30:06.900 It's just like,

01:30:07.280 no, great, perfect.

01:30:08.220 These are the guys.

01:30:09.900 Garlic Goblin.

01:30:10.500 Great show, guys.

01:30:11.080 Good fun.

01:30:11.580 And good to see Ralph back.

01:30:12.920 Thank you very much.

01:30:14.200 Do you want to do your ones

01:30:15.160 for the Trump segment?

01:30:16.100 Sure, but we haven't got

01:30:17.160 much time, really.

01:30:18.900 But Joe Schmo says,

01:30:21.160 illegal immigrants can register

01:30:22.360 with the IRS

01:30:22.800 and receive an ID number

01:30:23.720 to pay taxes.

01:30:24.660 Why don't they just get

01:30:25.380 automatically deported then?

01:30:27.340 Because they're clients

01:30:27.820 of the state.

01:30:28.440 Yeah.

01:30:28.940 Many illegals also commit

01:30:29.980 identity fraud

01:30:30.580 and steal the social security

01:30:31.500 number of an American citizen

01:30:32.500 so they can get a job.

01:30:33.740 Well, there we go.

01:30:34.440 I think we are out of time.

01:30:35.740 Excellent.

01:30:36.240 Well, thank you very much.

01:30:37.560 I believe we've got

01:30:38.260 Ralph's links in the description,

01:30:40.400 but he will be joining us

01:30:41.240 for Lads Hour

01:30:41.820 for the next hour and a half

01:30:43.660 at three o'clock

01:30:44.380 when we cry

01:30:45.600 at all of the lives

01:30:46.760 coping and seething.

01:30:48.040 We like to take

01:30:48.800 a little victory lap

01:30:49.700 over here.

01:30:50.620 The energy is better

01:30:51.540 than 2016.

01:30:52.720 It's beautiful.

01:30:54.160 We're living at the end

01:30:55.500 of a three-act trilogy

01:30:56.300 with another movie series

01:30:58.800 to come, hopefully,

01:30:59.740 in the Trump administration.

01:31:00.540 But thank you very much

01:31:01.320 for watching,

01:31:01.600 ladies and gentlemen.

01:31:02.640 We will be back on Monday

01:31:03.720 at one o'clock

01:31:04.440 with the regular podcast.

01:31:05.340 Till then,

01:31:05.900 have a good weekend.

01:31:06.960 Take care,

01:31:07.380 God bless,

01:31:07.840 and goodbye.

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - November 08, 2024

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1038

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