The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1053

00:00:00.000 good afternoon ladies and gentlemen welcome to the podcast the lotus eaters for friday the 29th

00:00:04.800 of november 2024 best day of the week folks i'm joined by harry and stelios everyone and today

00:00:11.640 we're going to be talking about how kiss armor is actually deporting people which is better news 1.00

00:00:17.740 than i was expecting uh how the uk may well end up regulating itself off the internet which is

00:00:22.120 brilliant and uh how the un uh ignores the global persecution of christians because uh people seem

00:00:29.000 to think they're like some sort of global majority or something don't they and they don't matter um

00:00:34.580 but uh before we begin uh today is the last day that you'll be able to get the uh merch for the

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00:00:44.740 it's going to be gone forever i actually have my merch off there because i did want the trump

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00:01:00.660 up or come and join us then and we will see you soon but let's get on then all right so there's

00:01:07.360 been a new raft of statistics released and we all like to see statistics come from the government

00:01:13.040 they're always so honest about everything that they're doing but labor are using as an opportunity

00:01:17.860 to brag about how well they're doing on the problems of illegal immigration and even legal

00:01:23.160 migration so this is my public service announcement to remind everybody do not trust 1.00

00:01:29.160 keir starmer simply because he is throwing out red meat to try to satiate the gammon does not mean

00:01:35.800 that he is on your side they're still going ahead with the winter fuel uh allowance uh being removed

00:01:40.440 they're still going ahead with the destruction of british farming they still had a terrible response

00:01:44.920 to the riots back in august and they had problems with everything essentially but this is the one

00:01:51.240 thing we could carry on with that list but i'll for the sake of time everything is a problem

00:01:55.780 but the la the tory government have made it so easy for them to announce that they've won on

00:02:03.220 migration that they're trying to reverse a little bit of the narrative people are wondering why they're

00:02:08.500 announcing this why they're taking a hard line which we'll see in a moment but i think it's because

00:02:12.340 of the fact they've had such bad pr over the past few months they need to at least try and score

00:02:16.640 one victory because keir starmer's approval rating is in the toilet before i get on to the rest of the

00:02:22.640 information though if you're watching this on youtube this segment will probably go out at about

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00:02:40.440 the website we appreciate every one of you doing so so this is some of the information that's been

00:02:45.780 released which is that the labor government the labor government has returned 9 400 people with

00:02:51.740 no right to be in the uk including 2 519 forced returns which is an increase of 19 percent in the

00:02:57.820 same period in 2023 and mr labor mp for dover and deal follow me on blue sky says ah we're taking

00:03:05.320 illegal immigration seriously if there's no right to be here they'll be deported they're getting their 0.99

00:03:10.060 jack boots on folks they're making sure that labor are proving that the left are the real fascists

00:03:16.020 this time they're going all in but really is it as good as they say it is just a quick thing on here

00:03:22.240 okay so they've returned 9 400 people including 2 590 enforced returns so with the rest of them

00:03:30.020 are they just sending them a letter saying we'd like you to leave paying them maybe paying like how do

00:03:35.720 they know they've actually gone if they aren't enforced returns i don't know how it works i mean

00:03:40.540 a lot of the system seems to be quite opaque uh but this is taken from the government information

00:03:46.360 that they've released on the on here where they say you know here's the here's the figures that

00:03:50.800 you've got the problem is that the likelihood is that a lot of this will have been done under the

00:03:55.160 tories before they lost in july it's not like starmer got in and immediately got on the phone and said

00:03:59.900 time to get them out they need to go home says keir starmer that's not what's happened

00:04:05.300 yeah they didn't say our government they said the government so it could well be part of the

00:04:09.860 tories yeah so it is but are they prevented from coming back in like are they no right of return

00:04:16.260 or anything like that like i don't i don't know but also there's the fact that yeah 10 000 sounds

00:04:20.940 like a good number it's nowhere near enough it is nowhere near enough to deal with the problems

00:04:25.660 that this country has faced through illegal migration and asylum seekers who are falsely claiming asylum

00:04:30.740 here after traveling through potentially dozens of safe countries when they get into europe

00:04:35.260 and what's going to happen they've said that they want to clear the backlog which as we've seen

00:04:40.300 from the asylum decision makers from some segments recently will just mean approving them yeah the

00:04:46.560 difference between rejecting an asylum decision and approving an asylum decision is that you might

00:04:51.640 miss your targets in the home office if you decline them but if you approve them you're going to get

00:04:56.580 all of your targets hit in a single day exceed you might even get a bonus who knows it's worth

00:05:01.320 talking about just how small a number of this is as well compared to the actual problem so i mean

00:05:05.440 we've got somewhere about 180 000 illegal channel migrants who have invaded britain and are now being

00:05:11.100 put up in hotels at our expense but also we know that there is at least a million other illegal immigrants

00:05:17.640 who are just here because they came via plane and so they're just milling around somewhere in our

00:05:23.200 country as well so 10 000 sounds like a lot in the abstract but when you put it in context with the

00:05:28.780 rest of just how many illegals we have that's a drop in the bucket i think i think those numbers

00:05:33.820 that you gave are probably woefully underestimating the problem well that's the thing i'm going from

00:05:39.580 the official estimates of a million plus illegals it's going to be way more than that obviously

00:05:44.440 again you need you can look into it there have been estimates provided by sewage companies and phone

00:05:50.000 contract companies which suggest that the uk has a vastly larger population than official estimates

00:05:56.500 would suggest on in regards to the asylum how many people there are uh they uh they revealed that

00:06:02.980 government spending on asylum in the uk was at 5.38 billion pounds from 23 to 24 up 30 percent

00:06:10.680 from the year before which was 3.95 billion pounds so destroying british farming drop in the drop in the

00:06:19.560 bucket drop in the bucket completely agree with at redwall pleb there richard says absolute insanity

00:06:25.580 completely unsustainable meanwhile we're freezing pensioners who paid into our system their entire

00:06:29.420 lives to pay for these grifters yes that's exactly what's happening they don't want you to focus on

00:06:34.420 this they don't want you to focus on the enormous cost they say that they're going to bring the cost

00:06:37.700 down what they do want you to focus on though is that legal net migration numbers are down 20 percent

00:06:43.200 woo 20 percent yes down 20 percent we're getting the numbers down this is the mandate that we were

00:06:49.620 voted in for says keir starmer but in terms of real numbers real numbers not just the percentage

00:06:56.740 what does that mean well it's down to let me guess let me guess i haven't seen it so the net migration

00:07:02.920 was somewhere around 800 000 so it's going to be around 650 000 another massive underestimate there

00:07:09.660 really yeah uh they revised the numbers from last year to mean that june 2023 had net migration figures

00:07:16.720 of 906 000 people almost a full million so and that's net as well because every year for anyone

00:07:23.740 doesn't know about six or seven or eight hundred thousand people leave and yet the the conservative

00:07:29.100 government was just cramming as many people into britain like we're a clown car and apparently that

00:07:34.840 was nearly a million net yes and that's fallen 20 percent woo we're getting it down to 728 000 which is

00:07:42.300 what they told us the net was anyway for that year yeah and uh they point out in politics uk they

00:07:47.820 updated the estimate for last year because they looked over the figures and found that there were

00:07:51.820 some problems with that the total for the 12 months to june 2023 was initially 740 000 but it's been

00:07:58.040 revised upwards by 166 000 to get the 906 000 figure so again when you say we don't know how many people

00:08:05.880 are in the country it's because part of the reason is that they keep revising these figures we don't know

00:08:10.620 why they keep revising these figures presumably because they got it wrong the first time or found

00:08:14.740 clever ways of calculating i wouldn't be surprised if under labor or under the tories they wanted to

00:08:21.740 make sure that it looked like it wasn't as bad obviously it still looked terrible they didn't want

00:08:26.220 it to look as bad and then labor have gone all right factor in all the stuff that they missed out

00:08:31.780 and then give us the new figures and then it'll make us look better because really if the initial

00:08:36.320 figure was 740 000 there's only a reduction of 12 000 this year but if you get it up to 906 000

00:08:43.460 then you can have the big nice round 20 number the ons says it's because they have more complete data

00:08:48.600 for this period and have improved how it estimates the migration behavior of people arriving in the uk

00:08:53.920 from outside the eu would you like to guess where most of those non-eu people are coming from india

00:08:59.900 well i guess how did i know yep india 240 000 people a quarter of a million indians nigerian

00:09:09.040 120 000 people pakistani 101 000 people chinese people probably under student visas yeah 70 that's probably

00:09:19.040 the same with the nigerians as well 78 000 zimbabwean for some reason 36 000 people

00:09:27.280 reasons for coming to the uk it's just such an insane number study asylum humanitarian and six 0.99

00:09:34.600 percent family and we know that there's plenty more people coming in from the country i can't 0.81

00:09:39.500 have seen the figures that say robert jenrich looked up where it was a ridiculous number of

00:09:44.180 people about 30 of them were coming in as dependents yeah well that's the thing so 35 work

00:09:49.840 okay 31 study so that's 66 13 humanitarian asylum so that's 79 and then 6 family is 85 what what's the

00:10:02.600 other 15 uh it's not 100 it's probably included in the actual sources that they're getting this from

00:10:09.760 but these are the main reasons but the point is only 35 of them are coming to work the economy would

00:10:16.440 collapse without them two-thirds of the people coming to this country are not coming to do 1.00

00:10:21.180 anything meaningful to contribute to the economy what would britain be without indian corner shops 1.00

00:10:26.320 carl wealthy where would we be no we have an empire would we would be overpriced indian corner shops

00:10:32.060 don't contribute to the economy says carl benjamin i'm just saying without all of these dependents

00:10:37.980 coming so yeah no no carry on we would have wealth go on i really think that the 13 of asylum

00:10:46.660 humanitarian is underrated because a lot of the people you say come to work yes some people work

00:10:52.120 some people come to study but there seems to be there seem to be a really large number of welfare

00:10:57.280 beneficiaries because some people may come to work but also their family may just constantly

00:11:02.600 demand benefits and social housing and all forms of benefits so 13 seems really low

00:11:09.140 i also still doubt the 35 for work are going to be net contributors to the economy when you factor in

00:11:15.160 the stuff that you were talking about there if they're bringing family over who are going to be

00:11:18.440 dependents who might take state support then they're going to be taking out more from the economy

00:11:22.620 overall than they're putting in i can understand the study because you know you have really great

00:11:27.500 universities here and lots of people come here for for starting but it seems to me that it's yeah

00:11:33.000 the 13 there is way underrated also again it's more it all of all of this that we're discussing

00:11:39.580 right now is from an economic standpoint and part of my annoyance with a lot of this is that

00:11:43.480 our elites only view it from an economic standpoint when there are other factors to take into account

00:11:48.520 such as cultural cohesion homogeneity uh the lack of integration of cultures uh the difficulties that

00:11:55.540 come in any multi-ethnic society the stuff like we were talking about there they only ever try and

00:12:00.160 see it as a net benefit to have more migrants the most important questions fly under the radar of

00:12:06.220 of policy because if you just talk about people as you know contain passive containers of benefits

00:12:12.660 and passive containers of well-being all the questions that are important like what specific cultures are

00:12:19.120 called to coexist why do it in the first place how many numbers what is the population mix

00:12:25.060 how is the population mix going to develop in the future all these really crucial questions also

00:12:30.640 obviously the most important is the one of values all this flies under the radar of policy at the

00:12:36.580 moment in the western world oh yeah we're governed by bean counters but the problem is these people 0.79

00:12:40.620 who live by spreadsheets don't even really know how to calculate the spreadsheets properly

00:12:45.380 you're i mean they're missing 15 of the bloody reasons on this one so yeah well yeah also it seems

00:12:50.640 that they can just misplace 166 000 people when they're coming up with the initial figures for

00:12:57.140 last year's net migration and then it takes it takes a reassessment of that to find those 166 000

00:13:03.800 people somehow don't ask me the system works but they sent 10 000 people back guys oh yeah well on

00:13:10.160 that 10 000 people again uh the telegraph reports here that suela braverman uh had pointed out that the

00:13:16.580 20 percent drop in immigration uh came since uh june 2023 as a result of changes that she claims

00:13:22.500 she claims credit for that she fought for and introduced in may 2023 uh 3 1.2 million arrivals

00:13:29.200 a year is still too high it's unsustainable and why we need radical change so the tories are saying

00:13:34.440 we'll solve the problem they won't well no no to her credit she did go to natcon and say well look

00:13:38.660 it was rishi sunak who just stopped me from doing anything rishi sunak demanded that we have

00:13:42.880 immigration this high i tried to change it he directly intervened and there was nothing i could

00:13:47.860 do because he was the prime minister okay for some reason the conservative party is completely trapped

00:13:53.060 in this one probably because of the bank of england demanding that more bodies means more economic

00:13:57.100 growth completely outmoded paradigm not true this has been proven over the past 30 years to be a very

00:14:02.800 successful way to run a country and uh on this great news that we got it 20 down uh we're solving

00:14:09.800 immigration guys we're giving you what you the people wanted um where is it this is uh not the

00:14:17.240 link that i put in here samson could you go into the document and get the link that i put here please

00:14:23.040 but i'll tell you what do we really want to hear kistama's statement you know good grief well yes

00:14:32.100 actually well yes uh because he made some very very interesting remarks during this right he uh

00:14:40.260 basically copied our talking points oh oh i'm sorry i put the i put the wrong bloody link in there

00:14:47.180 i'm ever so sorry samson do you mind uh do carrying on a chat for a moment while i just sure well i just

00:14:52.860 find the link because it is important to listen to what he said about this apologies right okay you find

00:14:57.520 the link um okay so i i just want to say that yeah this is the conservative government's fault for

00:15:02.820 some reason boris completely opened the borders uh as soon as in 2019 he won and we were supposed to

00:15:08.860 get brexit done what that meant was you know far less productive european immigration and far more

00:15:15.680 non-productive non-european immigration but also the major problem goes way back what was it blair who

00:15:23.760 started in 97. and then also the tories am i wrong in saying that for 14 years they said that they were

00:15:30.360 gonna bring it down but you're not wrong at all they did the exact opposite that's what they said

00:15:35.140 yeah and did as you say exactly the thing is that the under the black government net migration was about

00:15:41.240 250 000 a year which is an insane amount i've sent you that's a town the size of swindon every year

00:15:47.000 right 250 000 people that's net and so sorry i'm not well today

00:15:51.840 all right and uh i apologize um so yeah that that's an insane number of people and then for

00:16:01.180 some reason the tories were like we're gonna ramp that up and so they ramped up to you know more than

00:16:05.820 half a million and then after covid they were like we're gonna ramp that up even more to nearly a

00:16:11.140 million net a year okay here we go so apologies for the weight there folks that was entirely my fault

00:16:16.680 uh but i edit that out yeah yeah you can edit that out on the youtube clip uh but here's what

00:16:21.800 keir starmer had to say in the speech that he gave about the resounding victory that labor is

00:16:26.940 celebrating when we came into office we immediately conducted an audit of the public finances

00:16:33.940 and we found a 22 billion pound black hole now the independent office of national statistics

00:16:42.500 has conducted vital work on the state of immigration and found the previous government

00:16:49.500 were running an open borders experiment as the ons sets out nearly one million people came to britain

00:16:58.720 in the year ending june 2023 that is four times the migration levels compared with 2019

00:17:08.500 time and again the conservative party promised they would get the numbers are down time and again

00:17:17.000 they failed and now the chorus of excuses has begun we heard that from the leader of the opposition

00:17:25.320 yesterday but what we didn't hear what the british people are owned is an explanation

00:17:32.900 because a failure on this scale isn't just bad luck it isn't a global trend or taking your eye

00:17:42.580 up the ball no this is a different order of failure this happened by design not accident

00:17:51.640 policies were reformed deliberately to liberalize immigration brexit was used for that purpose

00:18:00.300 to turn britain into a one nation experiment in open borders global britain remember that slogan

00:18:10.240 that is what they meant a policy with no support of which they then pretended wasn't happening

00:18:18.280 and now they want to wave it away with a simple we got it wrong well that's unforgivable

00:18:28.280 okay so he's stolen our talking points yeah this is been watching loads of seats spaced far right

00:18:35.100 keir starmer gives the speech i would have given were i in his place okay i'm here for it hope not

00:18:41.120 haters gonna do a piece on him yeah yeah right he's the far right but the the problem again is this

00:18:46.720 yeah he's saying everything that you've wanted to hear he's going i'm a populist now by the way we've

00:18:50.960 heard politicians do that before i keir starmer defender of terrorists socialist savant i'm now on

00:18:58.700 your side i am a far-right populist in the same way that now when faced with opposition i'm a rightist

00:19:03.760 now that i am now on the right keir starmer working man of britain is on your side and they're going to

00:19:10.320 fix it by authoring no rwanda out the door iraq iraq that's what we're doing a deal with now

00:19:17.960 they're authoring a deal with with iraq authored by david lammy i can't help but notice that the

00:19:24.300 iraqis aren't majority of our immigrants no i i also why iraq i don't know why iraq i'm interested

00:19:31.080 to see what comes of that we'll see what comes of that there will now as appropriate for a government

00:19:35.940 run by mindless bureaucrats be a new white paper published about this it's going to be sorry 0.72

00:19:42.760 it's going to solve all our problems and uh they're also again going to try to get all of

00:19:51.120 the processing of asylum claims done which will mean more accepting but still uh this is um

00:19:57.300 everything you wanted to hear ignore uh the riots ignore the attacks on farming ignore that meeting

00:20:04.240 with blackrock the other day who knows what that was about hey just sweep that one under the rug

00:20:08.680 ignore removing the winter fuel allowance kare starmer is speaking to the working people of

00:20:13.320 britain and he's on your side the problem i have with this is that kare starmer's like oh look this

00:20:18.720 900 000 net a year is way too many it should be 300 000 net a year still too many it's way too many

00:20:25.100 net migration needs to be negative it needs to be like people mostly leaving there's another issue that

00:20:31.640 a lot of the times when you have you know people with socialist inclinations criticizing other

00:20:37.520 sorts of experiments the criticism often comes from the from the position that they didn't plan well

00:20:43.600 enough yeah so i i'm sure he is he is pro mass migration in a in a way and sees it in as an

00:20:53.820 economic issue it's nothing to do with culture nothing to do with demographic change or anything

00:20:58.760 like that he said he still wants high skilled areas of the economy to have migration where they

00:21:05.020 need it so again it's a case of management we just need to manage it better where there's places where

00:21:10.220 there are gaps in the economy we need to inject high skilled migration which means more indians i 1.00

00:21:14.820 assume into those positions and then and some nigerians and then the economy iraqis now and then

00:21:20.760 and then the economy will work yeah you're right on the if imagine if it's the same as the rwanda

00:21:25.560 deal which was actually the deal if you actually read it was an exchange was that we send them over

00:21:30.740 there and we take rwandans now we're going to get iraqis maybe are they going to be related to

00:21:35.120 the same people that you know we were at war with a few years ago the thing is that he is pushing

00:21:40.100 forward welfarism in a ridiculously high uh form of welfarism with high spending so but the the

00:21:48.200 objection he knows how the objection really that fundamentally underpins this is he's angry at the

00:21:53.280 conservatives because of course the conservatives have just been trying to be like oh yeah we allowed

00:21:57.680 immigration to get out of control guys that's going to change under the next conservative

00:22:01.280 government we promise uh and so he's just basically dropping a big political sack on them and being

00:22:08.480 like no i'm staking out the anti-immigration thing because you did this i'm against this this is bad

00:22:13.520 but why is he getting the armbands on for this one boys but why is he against it he's not against it

00:22:19.100 because of course he's against mass immigration because i mean what he's saying is right we're going 1.00

00:22:22.420 to get immigration down so all of those millions of foreigners who are crammed into the country by the 1.00

00:22:27.300 conservatives they're staying obviously and we're going to bring in millions more we're just not

00:22:31.120 going to do it in a year we're going to do it in four years right because that way the blairite

00:22:36.480 project will sustain itself like the project of completely destroying and dissolving britain

00:22:42.800 and turning it into a massive overpopulated economic zone will succeed if the conservatives are

00:22:48.980 allowed to run out of control like this i mean this is just going to cause the far right

00:22:52.000 to stop the blairite project altogether and that's what he's saving yeah from a managerial

00:22:57.980 perspective the problem with the tories was that they made it way too obvious what the plan is

00:23:01.980 and the plan is still the plan but labor will just do it better that's exactly it's the promise

00:23:07.500 they're still doing a deal with blackrock to presumably sell off half of the countryside once 0.97

00:23:12.340 they've got it away from those damn hoarding farmers so that they can then pave over it and put 0.99

00:23:16.960 migrants there instead you you and your green and pleasant land no it'll be a blocky gray land 1.00

00:23:22.500 that's what you want that's what blairism promises you the problem is though this rhetoric for normie 0.99

00:23:28.720 idiots and npcs works and uh you used this example i saw you responding to it i wasn't trying to be 0.98

00:23:35.260 mean to the guy no no you weren't being mean to him you were pointing out the truth which was that 0.98

00:23:39.000 this guy says very pro-immigration mum she's always been upset at me about talking about migration

00:23:43.660 mention what starmer said today she replies yes i've been saying for years that immigration was

00:23:48.100 too high it suits the business owners by keeping wages low sudden populist she's had the the road 1.00

00:23:54.540 uh the road was clear to her now she had the wool pulled over her eyes and it's been removed

00:24:00.080 ah now i understand the evil far-right populists were right the whole time i would never admit it

00:24:06.020 but actually i've always been saying this i was always farage's top guy her guy said it so it's okay

00:24:11.780 yeah exactly people are so easy to switch like at least they're on our side now yes i agree it

00:24:16.920 suits the business owners by keeping wages though that's a good point good point good point let's

00:24:20.260 end immigration well the problem is that they're not on our side and the second that starmer and

00:24:24.020 anybody in labor says the exact opposite they go straight back to what they believed in the first

00:24:28.040 place what is the tory response to this yeah we we screwed up guys we screwed up yeah uh we shouldn't

00:24:35.620 have let so many people in whoopsie daisy if you let us get in again in 2029 we promise we won't

00:24:41.440 do it do you trust them no there is something mildly ironic that the conservatives have now

00:24:45.980 elected an immigrant to come and go yeah so we let too many immigrants in it's like yeah i guess so 1.00

00:24:52.600 it's made basically the same speech twice yeah and then uh there's something genuinely quite clownish

00:25:00.380 to have to for literally the conservative party britain to put an immigrant in front go yeah so

00:25:04.900 uh the conservative party is letting too many immigrants well i mean how did they get to the top 1.00

00:25:09.800 of the conservative party well this is after kemi was chosen because of the check because she's an

00:25:14.960 immigrant the kamala harris checklist when they announced that she had won the vote among the

00:25:19.540 members they were so chuffed to be able to go see we've not just got another woman in charge now it's

00:25:25.560 a black woman and they were all patting themselves on the back a good woman brilliant it's like 1.00

00:25:30.360 i just it's just clownish it's so clownish and it's not that i have any particular 0.97

00:25:36.080 dislike of kemi badenok actually you know she seems okay um it's just there's something kind

00:25:41.160 of thematically jarring about it and she fought pretty hard to uh uh lax up visa routes for 0.63

00:25:48.560 nigerians in the past so we can say that she's probably because she's nigerian yeah probably to 0.80

00:25:53.780 do with the fact that she's nigerian so we can say a nice number of these are probably directly

00:25:58.200 thanks to her yeah yeah i mean don't get me wrong i've got nothing against nigerians or anything

00:26:03.120 like that they seem they seem all right actually but if bringing in 900 000 net

00:26:08.560 immigrants is too many maybe putting an immigrant in charge of it's not great optics it's not great 1.00

00:26:15.560 optics it's not great optics it's kind of crazy and then to have a jacob reese mog on question time

00:26:20.240 as well going yeah we screwed up we screwed up we just thought the economy really needed it sorry

00:26:25.640 look at this though look at this like immigration policy failed it failed to do what the british people

00:26:29.700 had wanted okay but since the 60s british people have been saying no to immigration thank you

00:26:34.100 no immigration no immigration and so the fact that we have any immigration a conservative mp became so

00:26:41.500 popular saying maybe we should stop this immigration stuff that you kicked him out of the party to stop

00:26:47.460 him from becoming the leader because he was so popular yes that has been the tory playbook for too long

00:26:53.920 so do not trust keir starmer he is throwing out red meat for you and do not trust anything the tory

00:26:59.560 say they still hate you a miller says have you covered the bill gates cow methane supplement being

00:27:05.120 given to dairy cows yet you know we haven't covered that my wife mentioned that to me yesterday she

00:27:09.560 was like what's this bill gates and i'm like oh god i don't know it can't be any good isn't he trying

00:27:13.380 to stop methane production from cows probably um yeah it's cows uh connor smug mug says harry read

00:27:20.860 creature girls hands-on field general in another world and tell carl how base the author is okay

00:27:25.280 uh and labor is trying to labor is a snake trying to save image no amount of pretending will say the

00:27:30.900 key eliminator um where is my islander too you should have your islander too or at least it'd be

00:27:35.520 on its way we realize there's been a bit of delay with them but we've had a bit of problem we're going

00:27:39.600 to change distributors basically samson is there an email address that people who haven't received

00:27:44.640 their copy yet can get in touch with we there will be a a contact email address we'll be able to give

00:27:51.200 you a little bit later on the podcast yes haven't because we do want to get this sorted obviously

00:27:55.440 um but anyway let's carry on so uh it seems that the uk is running up to the point of basically 0.92

00:28:03.960 regulating itself off the internet because our government is uh full of lunatics who think 0.97

00:28:09.500 they're in control of the entire universe and think the universe should bow down to them 0.95

00:28:12.780 because they managed to get into power under a chancing labor government uh and this you will

00:28:21.680 be surprised to learn began with the conservatives right so this is the competition and markets

00:28:26.920 authority and what they do is uh make sure that the market is fair as you can say we help people

00:28:34.340 businesses in the uk economy by promoting competitive markets and tackling unfair behavior

00:28:39.500 right they carry on to tell us we take actions against businesses and individuals that take part

00:28:44.280 in cartels or anti-competitive behavior okay fair enough that sounds like a useful thing we protect

00:28:48.780 people from unfair trading practices sounds good we investigate entire markets if we think there are

00:28:54.520 competition or consumer problems okay i can see why this agency exists we encourage government and

00:29:00.980 other regulators to use competition effectively on behalf of consumers and we carry out regulatory appeals in

00:29:05.840 relation to issues like price controls okay this seems like a very useful thing to have it seems like

00:29:11.560 it should have some authority over the market but not complete domination of the market you can see why it

00:29:16.560 exists and then kemi badenok came on and she created and sponsored a bill called the digital markets 0.99

00:29:28.580 competition and consumers act 2024 this is brought in by kemi badenok under the conservatives so you see her

00:29:34.300 sponsoring it from the department for business and trade and lord offered of garvel from the department

00:29:41.760 of business and trade also co-sponsoring it and what this is to do is provide regulation and competition

00:29:49.440 in digital markets to amend the competition act of 1998 and the enterprise act of 2002 and to make other

00:29:56.340 provision about competition law to make provision relating to the protection of consumer rights and to

00:30:01.200 confer such further such rights for connected purposes now that of course is just legalistic

00:30:06.740 bureaucratic waffle that means nothing what is that actually going to do are we going to update an act

00:30:11.880 from 1998 and 1998 okay fine but in what way and so there have been people bringing attention to this

00:30:18.300 saying hang on a second this is actually kind of crazy what this is going to do and it's hypothetically

00:30:23.600 going to give the uk government uh we say it will give them sweeping control of the us tech but it

00:30:30.880 won't actually give us control over it it will make us make demands over us tech companies which

00:30:35.840 they aren't actually obligated to fulfill and they could just say screw your market you know you're

00:30:40.760 only like 65 million or 69 million people we're not going to do anything for you and we don't have to

00:30:45.300 soft power well that's what's of our soft power that's the we can't get musk under heel what is

00:30:52.020 the use of our soft power that's the point and so i'm i'm gonna i'm gonna quote quite extensively from

00:30:57.000 this because i haven't deep dived into but this this uh author has i can't remember who it is but

00:31:03.240 we'll find out i think it said ashley rinsburg at that's right ashley rinsburg sorry and it's kind

00:31:09.540 of crazy just how far they're going so they get she starts with the example in 2020 adobe announced

00:31:15.320 that it was going to acquire interface design software company figma which i i i'm sure there's

00:31:21.500 a real name uh for 20 billion dollars right and this seems fine it was in the it was in the depth

00:31:26.580 of a tech recession uh and then a little more than a year later uh the companies were pronounced

00:31:31.960 the deal dead killed by insurmountable regulatory hurdles but it wasn't the ftc in america that did

00:31:38.840 this know it was the uk regulator located thousands of miles from the company's silicon

00:31:42.880 valley headquarters called the competitions and markets authority the scuttling of the biggest

00:31:47.640 american tech deal in months by a foreign regulator provoked outrage in the us understandably so

00:31:52.700 uh with commentators arguing that if this continued american companies would eventually

00:31:57.460 have to abandon the british market entirely and if you're someone like facebook you've got

00:32:02.600 three billion users and 66 billion of them or 69 billion whatever it is

00:32:07.960 uh become a bit of a problem and that means you have to restructure and reorganize and pay out

00:32:13.340 god no only huge amounts of money as well which we'll get to in a minute do you restructure your

00:32:20.160 entire world business based in the united states that isn't making you do this uh to the tune of

00:32:25.420 billions of millions of dollars or do you just accept that's a market segment as very small 65

00:32:30.260 million 69 million out of three billion is a very small number you just accept that as a loss

00:32:34.520 and you carry on as we know an economy that is increasingly poor yeah americans constantly i've

00:32:41.400 seen are staggered by what the median wage is in the uk and what the average wage is because compared

00:32:48.060 to america we are staggeringly poor well britain is currently a developing country uh it's it's a

00:32:54.360 country that's going backwards economically it's it's it's not it's not good uh and so she carries

00:33:00.920 on in in may the british parliament passed the digital markets and competition act it'll be in

00:33:05.060 here somewhere i already have that on screen um oh right sorry just a little bit yeah in may the

00:33:10.360 british parliament passed the digital markets competition consumes act which gives the cma

00:33:14.420 sweeping new powers over the companies around the world or at least it claims the powers over the

00:33:18.820 companies again the companies don't have to do it they will just have to not operate in britain

00:33:23.440 okay you know what what power does the british government have to force facebook or google or youtube or

00:33:29.060 apple or whoever to pay fines in britain and the answer is none could you imagine does the bbc broadcast

00:33:34.580 in other countries yes yeah could you imagine if they all of a sudden demanded a claim over the

00:33:39.540 right of how the bbc operates the bbc would say well i will either have to agree to it or stop

00:33:46.560 broadcasting in your country yeah yeah go ahead no i think that this is just a strategic failure on

00:33:54.300 behalf of uh on behalf of the government yeah and it's not like there aren't precedents for this the

00:33:59.400 european union has tried this with google like when google news and they just pulled out spain

00:34:03.240 and in australia as well they've tried this and they just pull out they say no screw you we're not

00:34:07.300 going to do it and so the eu and australia have back walked back on these and the uk will do that

00:34:13.160 too this is just incredibly short-sighted but anyway we'll carry on because again i just want you to

00:34:18.280 understand the scope of this right so the dmu is the power to create bespoke regulatory

00:34:23.180 conditions for companies so for example apple will have a set of regulatory conditions developed

00:34:28.680 specifically for apple whereas google will have their own set of rules to abide by and so on

00:34:33.480 that's kind of crazy isn't it so okay so we're going to give preferential treatment to certain

00:34:38.540 companies and not others so apple with woke tim cook will get an entirely different set of

00:34:44.780 regulatory apparatus that applies to him than say based elon musk and his ex that's not good

00:34:51.500 because obviously apple are going to be far more amenable and so they're going to be uh shaking

00:34:56.920 hands a lot more with this uh organization under the labor government whereas elon musk may well be

00:35:01.560 forced to simply pull out of the uk entirely what oh in my mind i've just got an image of the uk

00:35:07.900 government like anakin in revenge of the sith just going to elon musk you underestimate my soft power

00:35:14.400 that's kind of what's happening but the conservatives are the ones who are like yeah let's give this

00:35:20.140 thing extra powers oh look a labor government has come in and now they get to use it exactly how they

00:35:25.000 wish and so anyway the that that allows essentially the government and agencies of the government to

00:35:29.860 play favorites with foreign companies so if you have an elon musk he can't even apply to the he can't

00:35:34.720 even appeal to the rule of law he can't appeal to a consistent standard that i mean as i said this is a

00:35:39.640 departure from competition the uk government is notoriously bad at all of this stuff absolutely

00:35:44.760 absolutely i'm also reading harry's mind you have blackrock in mind well i mean blackrock is a

00:35:51.700 extension of the global government it could be anything you know and so the point being

00:35:57.260 it could well be that it's just not in elon's interest to pay the billions of pounds or dollars

00:36:03.700 of fines that we levy and just to pull out the uk market so we now lose access to x which i think

00:36:08.520 would be a really really bad thing because it's a very effective tool for communication

00:36:12.800 and very politically important and they know it and so they they point out this is a massive

00:36:19.940 departure from like competition which used to be a sort of one-size-fits-all approach as in you know

00:36:24.200 it was fair it wasn't politically partisan it was in the spirit of how law should work how would this

00:36:31.620 affect say like um amazon who are presumably one of the biggest uh retailers in the uk uh i i assume

00:36:40.700 that they would have to either pay the costs get a personalized custom-made deal with this agency or pull

00:36:49.920 out i imagine would you imagine amazon pulling out of the uk right now no i i mean i'd be heartbroken

00:36:56.480 by it because i use amazon on time because i'm terrible um but basically it i imagine amazon is

00:37:02.180 big enough to take the hit and just pay whatever they're supposed to do and just i'm sure i'm sure

00:37:05.740 they'll have like i i expect there's going to be some sort of goodwill right and so they'll be like

00:37:11.160 no amazon's basically a left-wing company we agree you know amazon will do everything and say

00:37:15.560 everything or push all the diversity stuff whatever so so okay well it did make the hobbits black so 0.91

00:37:19.720 exactly you get a free amazon isn't going to be the problem it's going to be twitter that's going to be

00:37:23.620 the problem and they're going to get rid of it for that reason or potentially could right but they

00:37:28.720 they they say um basically and this is an again another a very another very interesting part right

00:37:35.580 the more significant piece of the dmcc is that the companies will operate under an ex-anti framework

00:37:42.100 in competition law again at least until now remedies prescribed by regulators such as forced

00:37:47.020 divestiture or cessation of offending certain market activities come as a result of an investigation

00:37:51.820 which concludes that there has been a breach of the relevant law so regulatory regulatory intervention

00:37:57.620 takes place after the violation right though subtle the ex-anti approach represents a full

00:38:02.880 paradigm shift in competition law before the shift companies would have had little to no

00:38:06.820 interference or interface with regulators that is until an investigation had been opened so

00:38:11.460 innocent until proven guilty right but instead they are assumed to be compliant with a broad

00:38:17.800 range of practices blah blah the assumption the assumption by governments under an ex-post framework

00:38:22.500 is that companies are actually competing naturally and fairly but in the ex-anti frameworks flips this

00:38:27.940 dynamic in on its head companies that are given sms status in the uk or gatekeeper status in the eu

00:38:32.900 are automatically assumed to be in potential if not actual breach of competition law so the government

00:38:37.180 steps in preemptively with a set of regulations tailored to ensure that each uh that to ensure each

00:38:43.300 by their own measure that this hypothetical situation would be anti-competitive practices never comes

00:38:48.920 about so this ex-anti approach to regulation uh was inspired of course by the european union's own

00:38:54.820 regulatory overhaul the digital markets act so that's completely changing the dynamic of the market

00:39:01.600 well this is very very similar to um how dei law has worked in america for decades where it's

00:39:08.580 automatically assumed past a certain point that you are probably breaking dei law with unfair hiring

00:39:15.540 practices which has meant that all of these companies have automatically put all of these

00:39:20.780 hr regulations in place to make sure that they don't that they're kind of bulletproof legally which

00:39:26.940 has led to a lot of the unfair hiring practices over there because it costs less overall for them to put

00:39:32.720 all of that in place and start on fire unfairly hiring people yeah and discriminating rather than

00:39:38.040 waiting for some aggrieved party to launch a case at them yeah and so this is just kind of crazy and

00:39:43.740 as they point out um we're literally just lifting this from the european union so what happened to

00:39:48.820 brexit why would we do this i don't think this is a good idea at all and of course this has been done

00:39:52.140 by the purportedly pro-brexit conservatives and just handed straight to starmer so now he can start

00:39:59.460 legally persecuting american companies that side with donald trump against those that sided with

00:40:05.380 kamala harris and privileging those ones and deprive us of those services if they don't pay vast amounts 1.00

00:40:13.500 of money which i'll tell you about in a minute i think that uh we will have several statements of the

00:40:18.320 sort uh in the following months and this rhetoric will intensify because i think that it is sort of

00:40:24.960 muscle flexing in uh you know they are anticipating trump's tariffs yeah so both sides now they're

00:40:31.980 saying no i'm gonna harm you more but i think it was probably unlikely that trump was going to put

00:40:35.580 tariffs on britain well whatever it's just yeah but i don't think kia starmer has the best of

00:40:42.000 disposition towards no no of course not but this and this was put forward by the conservatives though

00:40:47.580 exactly but this is being handed to kia starmer who's just going to exacerbate the problem obviously 1.00

00:40:51.800 and so crazy how we're just lifting european uh legislation and they point out that basically

00:40:58.340 anything that you do with this then kind of forces the companies to have to narrow you know get

00:41:03.800 through the narrow corridors of the regulation to get to the end which is you the consumer which

00:41:09.040 puts hurdles in their way that makes your experience worse and they give the example of

00:41:12.780 like well google can't preference its own search engine according to say european law and so they can't

00:41:19.660 just take you to a google maps location if you're looking for a business on google you can't just

00:41:24.160 click on it no you get an image and you have to separately search it purportedly that means you

00:41:28.620 could pull up another different search engine or something like that but this is obviously a

00:41:32.220 noticeably worse outcome for consumers who are not the the people who are actually being held in

00:41:38.080 you've got to go through a load of extra hoops to get the same result yes so it's just a worse

00:41:43.220 consumer experience precisely and this is supposed to be anti-competitional but like for like to protect

00:41:49.640 the market well who are we protecting the market for well now it's for the good of the market itself

00:41:54.240 not the good of the consumer right so anyway they they point out that uh most prominent uh consequences

00:42:00.800 among this are that companies are just keeping major products out of the eu market so if you think

00:42:06.340 things are bad now imagine when literally everyone else on earth has like a brand new kind of phone

00:42:12.860 that does some new fancy thing but britain just doesn't have access to it like we are going to

00:42:18.260 end up falling behind technologically people in africa will have better phones than you because

00:42:25.240 they won't have these insane regulations because ironically the tony blair institute will be handing

00:42:29.720 them out for free yeah oh use whereas our own and you won't be able to get access to our own

00:42:34.700 blairite government yeah we'll not let you have them because of excessive over regulation it's it's kind

00:42:41.560 like and they've got examples of this like google has decided not offer its ai search ai search

00:42:47.000 assistant to eu customers so if you buy a google phone you won't get the advanced ai search that

00:42:52.080 doubtless is amazing what it does apple has issued downgrades of its iphone 16 for european customers

00:42:58.700 which doesn't come with its own ai search engine uh which the company admitted was directly due to

00:43:04.180 concerns that the ai product could potentially violate these kind of regulations i love this because

00:43:08.860 what are we doing what it essentially does is forces companies to make their products worse yes

00:43:15.420 that's exactly what it does purposefully encouraging a leveling of all standards yes as everything in the

00:43:23.320 modern world does yes you can't you literally can't have nice things because they have regulated

00:43:28.460 nice things out of the equation but other countries will have nice things just we won't and again like

00:43:35.640 the the phones and various other technologies in effect not coming preloaded with stuff it's like

00:43:40.820 oh great so now i have to do that myself if i want that i don't want to have to do that i'm not like a

00:43:45.320 techie guy i don't want to be a techie guy like there are going to be millions and millions of people

00:43:48.600 just like why doesn't my phone do what it was supposed to do what the other guys i saw on the

00:43:52.500 internet have yeah no you don't get that so they're depriving us just to have excessive government

00:43:56.840 control right and uh and so anyway they they say that um if breaches of these rules and there's a

00:44:03.780 reason these companies are doing this because of course the companies themselves don't want to do

00:44:06.880 this they want to be like yeah bam this is the best thing you'll ever get go buy it now buy it now

00:44:11.680 of course that's what the company wants but they avoid doing it because it can result in fines of up

00:44:16.860 to 10 percent of a company's global revenue right so if again using the example of facebook

00:44:24.700 three billion customers globally god knows how much money facebook is worth how much they bring in

00:44:30.000 every year but if 69 million of those which is again a tiny fraction of the overall revenue

00:44:36.640 are making a claim on the global revenue why would you take that risk if you're facebook you're like

00:44:40.920 no i'm just i'm just out of that market no i don't care what the boomers say we're out they're not

00:44:44.860 getting their ai slop i'm sorry which is out of out of britain now i think we should remember though

00:44:49.980 what it says there it says a penalty that former european commissioner for internal market and

00:44:55.100 services thierry breton used as a threat against elon musk i was going to get to that yes he did

00:45:00.660 make that explicit threat yes because he was constantly one of the most you know aggressively

00:45:06.620 censorious voices there yeah i mean in the eu it's worse it can go up to 20 percent of global revenue

00:45:12.240 which is crazy how did it work for him well um he lost his job yeah he got fired yeah and elon musk

00:45:19.480 just kind of repudiated him um but again who knows how uh unbelievably hard-headed the labor

00:45:26.920 government's going to be over this it could be that we literally end up losing access to services

00:45:31.400 online that you took for granted again i don't know what the consequence of all this is going to

00:45:36.940 be i'm just putting this on your radar because by the way the uk government could end up doing

00:45:40.340 something really bonkers um and for all of the all of the traditionalists watching this who uh like

00:45:47.260 myself carl and stellios and others will be saying well wouldn't it be better if we have less access

00:45:52.480 to the internet if people have more reason to communicate with one another if people have less

00:45:56.820 reason to go online and buy off amazon instead of use their local amenities and such you know the 1.00

00:46:01.780 government's not doing it for that reason these these are technocrats but they are low iq idiotic 0.99

00:46:08.160 technocrats who are just trying to get an easy score on money yeah and i mean hypothetically that might 0.99

00:46:14.240 all all end up accidentally being good but they might accidentally reverse engineer trumpton yeah

00:46:19.360 exactly but they're not doing for that reason what they're going to do is turn us into a global

00:46:22.460 backwater that's yeah exactly and actually they're they're not they're gonna go after critics yeah

00:46:28.460 they're they're not gonna be like the republican congressman of the ads going after gooners and stuff

00:46:34.800 anyway they they she carries on uh pointing out in this article that the uh the definitions that 0.94

00:46:39.900 they're going to use are of course very very vague and uh able to be manipulated for whatever purpose

00:46:46.560 they want they say that oh well they they need a 33 of the market share to uh to be applicable for

00:46:52.380 this kind of uh penalty but the uh as uh one london london for based law firm uh expert explains

00:47:00.240 the 33 share of supply test is extremely broad and as any seasoned advisor knows it'll be hard in most

00:47:05.740 cases to establish an acquirer does not have a 33 share based on some cut of the market or permutation

00:47:11.920 of supply that they could use to establish jurisdiction so if a company is like you know

00:47:16.860 producing 33 of phones they could be yeah but it's 33 of phones that have this particular camera

00:47:22.700 in this particular configuration with that particular software or something and actually

00:47:26.520 you're 40 of those so it's like okay great so you could just wangle it to be anyone you probably

00:47:32.600 with with amazon i don't know they are probably a massive share but if they were able to argue

00:47:37.260 oh we're not we're not 33 of all online sellers they'll probably be able to go ah but you're more

00:47:42.120 than that in book sales yeah exactly you're more than that shoe sales or some random thing they can

00:47:47.420 narrow or expand the categories to be convenient to themselves so this isn't even a hard thing but

00:47:53.980 anyway non-compliance with investigations can result in a fine of one percent of global revenues on

00:47:58.840 companies uh which is around 20 grand or something uh per day for non-compliance for individuals

00:48:04.760 right so one percent of if you're a company it's one percent of your global revenue but if you're an

00:48:09.340 individual 15 000 pounds a day for non-compliance so you you basically have to either do this or pull

00:48:17.380 out right they're not gonna they're not gonna allow you to continue and so elon musk basically pulled

00:48:22.380 this to people's attention this is how i found out about it because it's like oh actually great so the

00:48:27.960 guy who owns twitter a platform i use all the time and i think is very useful is like hmm i'm watching

00:48:32.940 you uk for some reason it seems that the uk is going to set themselves against elon musk i think

00:48:38.480 that's a terrible idea because i like access to his properties his platforms um and i hate the kind of

00:48:44.420 increasing dystopian bureaucratic control of the country it's falling into so again don't know what the

00:48:49.820 end of the result of this is going to be just putting it on your radar peter uh says on the amazon

00:48:56.500 comment how would the law work with amazon's aws since some of the online services use it for

00:49:00.800 their infrastructure for their services yeah great question uh they could they can't shut down aws

00:49:06.800 worldwide but they can shut it down in the united kingdom which again would be an insanely bad idea

00:49:12.340 but that's the power they're giving themselves bald eagle says all i'm hearing from this legislation

00:49:17.580 is that international companies are going to avoid the uk and the eu like the plague glad to see the

00:49:22.020 politicians want to regulate europe to third world status yeah that's that's basically what we're

00:49:25.320 gonna do but right let's uh carry on yeah so i need the sorry you of course do yes and

00:49:32.780 thank you right so a few days ago we heard in the uk parliament a labor mp i think his name was

00:49:45.900 called tahir ali who was calling for the introduction of a blasphemy law now i think that this would be

00:49:52.240 an absolute disaster i did a daily video for a short video channel and basically i said that is going

00:50:00.300 to be a disaster for three reasons number one it's just a a really bad violation of our right to free

00:50:06.400 speech like any hate speech law number two it's going to contribute to a very arbitrary environment

00:50:11.240 where people are literally afraid to to speak and criticize multiculturalism and number three it

00:50:18.980 is definitely going to be applied selectively it also privileges islam as a religion in britain

00:50:25.180 why the hell should islam have religious preference in britain it's crazy well yeah because you would 1.00

00:50:30.740 say that britain is a is a christian country christian country the king is literally the head of the

00:50:35.220 church of england and yet it's islam that has legal protection not christianity but but i want to

00:50:41.000 ask you carl why is there no discussion of christianophobia uh because people view christians

00:50:47.200 as like some sort of global majority even though they're not and therefore they can't under the sort

00:50:54.220 of woke formula of power plus prejudice uh be oppressed they're always the oppressors yeah so i want to be

00:51:02.220 very clear i'm against blasphemy laws because i'm against hate speech laws but this segment is about

00:51:07.680 something different and actually it's more of an introduction to a very huge topic and obviously

00:51:13.220 we cannot talk about the persecution of christians globally in just uh 20 minutes so this i want to

00:51:19.380 give you just some really interesting bullet points some statistics and also some why some perspective

00:51:25.520 into the mix right so let's see here the christianity is the most persecuted religion in the world

00:51:31.520 would you guess this from just looking at the culture today i mean i already knew this

00:51:37.100 you didn't know this yeah but i i think the average person has no idea the average person has no idea

00:51:43.720 just like they have no idea for instance the mix of the population within the country remember the

00:51:48.400 vox populi not just that also the average person has been raised on a steady diet of um liberal 0.99

00:51:56.580 propaganda and stephen king novels to assume that christians are all insane crazy bigots most of 0.95

00:52:02.880 them understand christianity is oh isn't isn't that basically like the westborough baptist church i 0.94

00:52:08.080 watched the louis theroux documentary on that if they're being persecuted that's a good thing also 0.96

00:52:12.460 isn't it like that icky white european religion for thousands of years ew let's get rid of that of 1.00

00:52:18.660 those people who have no culture yeah exactly there's no culture ignore the glorious churches and 0.99

00:52:24.540 architecture the traditions the rituals the dances no culture right so it says that christianity is the

00:52:30.840 most persecuted religion in the world that is why the label christianophobia is common in the language

00:52:36.340 of international and regional human rights bodies most of them often condemn together antisemitism

00:52:42.600 islamophobia and christianophobia however the echr uses only the first two labels in its case law

00:52:49.620 but has never mentioned christianophobia as such well i can hardly say that's surprising given that

00:52:55.180 they're one of the bodies that are very much against europe in general right and here we are going to go

00:53:01.420 to the u.n because as i said also in the main segment it seems to me that u.n is basically the

00:53:06.300 organization of virtue signaling yes it's vso i think it should be called yeah right so um samson could

00:53:13.380 you please type islamophobia to on the search bar to see how many results we're going to have

00:53:18.720 and then we are going to compare this with christianophobia so if we click on this

00:53:25.380 yeah you can uh click on search oh no no yep lamophobia yeah search hit search it's right above reset

00:53:36.860 there you go we have 17 results and we also have number one the international day to combat islamophobia

00:53:44.260 which they have designated march 15 now if you write christianophobia you will see how many results do

00:53:51.580 you think they're going to be thousands surely thousands how many thousands oh tens of thousands i

00:53:57.960 hope yeah sorry no results could be found okay maybe type in like anti-christian with a hyphen between it

00:54:04.580 now you if you type anti-christian what you will see is essentially that they have a designated day

00:54:12.820 to commemorate victims of acts from religion right the first thing that comes up is the islamophobia

00:54:20.660 thing right so if you see you see here antonio gutierrez makes claims about islamophobia in the the

00:54:30.020 un he says about the rise in bigotry about uh regarding islam but he doesn't say anything of the sort

00:54:37.940 regarding christianity right so i started to uh a sort of a search because i wanted to give you precise

00:54:44.820 data so i tracked several several organizations and went to see several websites i came to open doors

00:54:52.900 and which is a really uh really eye-opening organization it's since 1955 it was established

00:55:00.420 by someone it was founded by someone who was smuggling bibles into the soviet union right and

00:55:06.580 essentially they're saying that right now christianity is persecuted even more than it was in the in the

00:55:14.900 soviet the soviet eras and also the goals of the bolsheviks was literally to persecute christians 0.83

00:55:20.900 so 16 million christians you will see here it's not that they say that it has never been worse

00:55:26.980 since 1955. so it's not like they're not saying this and north korea is still number one country for

00:55:34.580 that is the worst country to be a christian so we shouldn't try and say that communists

00:55:39.780 have nothing to do with it right so i imagine they have everything to do with it yeah so i saw some

00:55:45.620 numbers they're saying that more than 365 million christians worldwide face persecution and discrimination

00:55:54.660 so it's around one in seven christians uh christians are around 2.4 billion i think these are the latest

00:56:04.180 the latest estimates so 367 365 million it's quite a large number yeah it's a huge number so why does the

00:56:14.020 un say nothing about it right so what they have here is they have a world watch list that talks about

00:56:23.060 all the countries and they have the 50 worst countries to live it to live in for christians so 0.87

00:56:29.780 if you see here you go to north korea it's world what's number one and they say that it's the worst

00:56:36.340 country and they say main threat dictatorial paranoia communist and post communist oppression

00:56:42.260 but if you go into basically other countries you will see for instance here in nigeria it's number six

00:56:50.260 you will see basically the same main threat islamic oppression ethno-religious hostility so it's a very 0.91

00:56:57.300 war-torn region and as they're saying that essentially a lot of the negative trends that happen in the last

00:57:04.420 decades happen especially in sub-saharan africa i saw mexico highlighted as well which is quite a

00:57:12.340 surprise for me yeah that is a surprise we will get there but let us focus on some brief trends

00:57:20.180 some bullet points so north korea remains number one for just for 2022 at afghanistan i think had the

00:57:27.620 first position but that was only but then north korea turned into uh had the gold medal of persecutions 0.74

00:57:38.180 right so they're saying that worldwide around 5 000 christians were killed per year that seems like

00:57:46.260 an underestimate to me yes there are other sites that have greater numbers for instance the adf says

00:57:52.260 something like um 7 000 but there are many there are thousands and as they're saying there that

00:57:58.500 close to 90 percent of them are in sub-saharan africa and especially they're saying in nigeria and the

00:58:05.220 democratic republic of congo where they are essentially uh as they say they're the christian

00:58:11.460 communities continue to be attacked with devastating impunity by armed bandits and islamic militants

00:58:17.540 right we also have um militants who exploit chaos in africa they're saying that for several reasons

00:58:23.700 economic political instability they also cite climate change fractures and governance and security across

00:58:30.740 the region makes it easy for extremists to capitalize upon that but this happens in places like egypt where

00:58:37.860 the cops are constantly under attack by islamic mobs egypt is a bit higher on the on the on the list they 0.99

00:58:45.300 have a position 38 and they also have a much larger percentage of the population so i think

00:58:51.860 the coptic christians are about 10 percent and i think diachronically egypt was a one of the

00:59:00.820 one of the cases where you could you had coexistence between religions to a different to a higher degree

00:59:06.980 than other than other ones but but as you say yes they do say here that in egypt things are also bad

00:59:14.260 for christians and they do face persecutions right also there are other uh there are there is a

00:59:20.820 rise in the number of churches and destruction of public properties that that have taken place in 2023

00:59:30.660 also there they say that there is rise in surveillance in countries like china and

00:59:36.100 um they are used in order to surveil and monitor religious freedoms and essentially deprive them

00:59:44.580 and they also say that there are familiar reasons in iraq and syria but also autocratic governments

00:59:50.180 tighten control and it's it becomes much more difficult so why does the un not talk about it

00:59:56.740 that's one of the major questions because the un is allegedly one of those organizations that is

01:00:02.500 supposed to be about the united nations it's supposed to be about what happens in the whole world but

01:00:08.260 it seems to me that is very much selective and that isn't just the the un also it's this echr as we

01:00:15.860 read before they are talking about anti-semitism they're talking about islamophobia but they're not

01:00:20.340 talking about christianophobia right so let's see let's scroll down a bit here they're saying that for

01:00:27.620 instance a key trend in growing violence is in sub-saharan africa the region accounts for some

01:00:33.540 around 90 percent of the estimated 5 000 believers who were killed for the faith worldwide they say

01:00:40.340 with the highest number of christ christians killed in nigeria 400 and 180 4 000 yeah so apologies

01:00:50.500 right and they're saying that essentially in several other countries there is islamic extremism that is

01:00:57.060 capitalizing on regional instability and they say in places like mali burkina faso nigeria mozambique

01:01:03.220 and somalia military coups and other fractures and governance and security have enabled militancy

01:01:10.180 to flourish because of their faith faith christians are affected disproportionately now i want to point out

01:01:16.740 one one extra factor on this because here especially in the west we have a lot of people who are pro big

01:01:23.380 state pro-welfareism and they're talking about constantly pouring funds into africa and a lot of

01:01:29.220 people are saying that the funds that are being poured into africa are actually funding really corrupt

01:01:35.060 governments and this is actually used against christians here autocratic government governments are

01:01:42.900 notoriously um against against christians and in the region and they're using their autocracy to repress 0.93

01:01:50.580 um religious freedoms right so if you you could just visit this website and click on all of these

01:02:00.260 countries and see especially what is going on in mexico i'm curious mexico yeah same also in in cuba

01:02:07.380 yeah cuba's not surprising this is coming to these countries oh john click on that yeah i'm clicking

01:02:14.260 oh does it not does it not have its own page it does it's just not maybe if we open it on a

01:02:19.140 different oh there you go yeah world watch number 37 is it due to cartel activity yeah it's got to

01:02:24.500 isn't it yeah organized crime yeah organized crime corruption in clan uh oppression right so you can

01:02:31.300 definitely ms13 which is an openly satanic gang for example yeah so they're saying here also that

01:02:37.780 for instance one of the worst countries is nigeria and here is from adf and they're saying that

01:02:42.820 in the south of nigerian in nigeria the people are predominantly christian in the north they are

01:02:49.380 predominantly um muslims there is a sort of mixed uh belt in the in the in the middle but they're 0.98

01:02:57.060 saying that here what happens we see two trends one the number of christians rises from 36 percent it

01:03:04.500 goes to roughly 50 percent of the population but also the persecutions are increasing in violence and

01:03:11.860 they give sort of different data data here they say that in 2022 roughly 5000 christians were murdered

01:03:18.420 for their faith more than the number killed in all other countries combined for 2023 one estimate put

01:03:24.820 the number of christians targeted and killed in northern nigeria at over 7 000 because nigeria is 0.99

01:03:30.660 one of the most dangerous countries in the world for christians the persecuted face targeted violence

01:03:35.700 and death from terrorist groups like boko haram and muslim funali militias terrorist groups like 0.68

01:03:41.620 these are responsible for thousands of christians killed every year and essentially i think you'll 0.95

01:03:46.740 get the gist of it across sub-saharan africa the number of open borders of nigeria the number of

01:03:54.660 of the christians persecuted and also killed is not is really high right here okay we have also the

01:04:02.900 democratic republic of congo that was second in the number of fatalities of murders as we said the same

01:04:11.060 isn't the drc mainly just like a big open war zone most of the time anyway sadly and the same main

01:04:16.980 threat islamic oppression organized corruption and crime dictatorial paranoia and clan oppression 0.91

01:04:22.900 so you get the idea so it's it seems to me really really um hypocritical of bodies and organizations

01:04:31.780 like the u.n that constantly say how good involved and sensitive they are to the to the plight of people

01:04:38.180 worldwide that they are making that they don't have for instance a christianophobia awareness month

01:04:44.180 personally i'm against awareness months i'm against awareness months i'm against hate speech laws i don't

01:04:51.220 have to say it again i've said it again but if we have some of them the question arise why don't we have

01:04:57.700 the other ones yeah right so we have here also what we need to say it's not just it's also in india that

01:05:06.100 this happens for instance and they're saying that india is also it has a population of around around

01:05:12.740 71 million christians and but there are also um bad persecutions and uh extremists say religious

01:05:23.060 nationalism and dictatorial paranoia are some of the main threats and it has it comes sometimes from hindu 1.00

01:05:28.420 nationalists and uh groups of the kind so it seems to me that it is absolutely hypocritical of the u.n

01:05:36.820 and all these bodies talking about talking about all kinds of uh you know islamophobia anti-semitism and

01:05:45.140 other anti-anti-anti but they're not talking about anti-christianity and this seems to me to be very

01:05:52.180 this seems to me to be very strong evidence to suggest that christians are oppressed and no one is

01:05:57.220 talking about it in the west almost no one's talking about it all right connor smug mug says

01:06:04.180 so nigerians are persecuting christians the most and come to britain a christian country what could 1.00

01:06:07.940 go wrong well to be honest with you it's probably likely that christian nigerians are coming to britain 1.00

01:06:14.980 quite possibly to escape persecution yeah also connor smug mug if i uh remember i think you were the

01:06:20.420 one who was asking where your issue of islander 2 is and i've just had it noted in the document here

01:06:25.780 that if you've got issues and you want answers you can contact us at support at lotus eaters.com

01:06:31.460 and we should be able to give you more information about that right let's go to the video comments

01:06:38.980 when frank herbert wrote june he created a universe not dissimilar to that of asimov's foundation but

01:06:44.180 rejecting technology his butlerian jihad was named specifically in the mid to late 1800s english

01:06:50.740 author samuel butler wrote error one essentially nowhere backwards about a man venturing abroad to

01:06:56.340 seek his fortune and encountering a land that had rejected technology the book is an interesting

01:07:01.220 satire of industrializing britain particularly fascinating is the way erowonians treat disease

01:07:06.340 as criminal but criminality is requiring treatment to cure i've not heard of that i didn't know where

01:07:13.460 the term butlerian jihad came from except its use in in dune so that's actually very interesting

01:07:20.820 let's get the next one our immigration policy is a complete disaster 1.00

01:07:25.220 send the boogies back 1.00

01:07:31.460 now we know what more of those on the weekends

01:07:33.300 i want it so now i'm sending them straight back i'm going to stick the lid back on and send

01:07:39.060 the boogies back 0.90

01:07:40.420 see nothing offensive nothing blue

01:07:44.020 no just racists

01:07:45.140 get them off get them off the stage

01:07:51.860 2001 man atrocious

01:07:54.580 yeah

01:07:57.060 all right let's go to the next one yeah wait why did rory stewart say

01:08:00.020 it's a complete disaster because i get the feeling that uh rory stewart is perfectly fine with uh

01:08:05.860 906 000 that's nowhere near enough no no but remember

01:08:10.340 that's the disaster it's not because there are too many migrants what it is is it brings into 1.00

01:08:15.460 question the stability and legitimacy of the globalist project that's the problem right yes so

01:08:21.220 that's when they say it's a complete disaster but um anyway let's get some uh written comments

01:08:26.020 um so luke says great show as always guys but off topic what are your thoughts on the assisted

01:08:30.340 dying bill currently being debated in parliament um i can see an argument if someone has terminal

01:08:36.820 cancer and they're an advanced stage of it that that could be something that would be useful but

01:08:42.020 obviously i think the government would try and execute as many British citizens as they can it's

01:08:45.700 going to be made just like in canada it's going to be made your granddad who goes in for a 0.93

01:08:50.180 routine knee surgery or something is going to be encouraged to kill himself by the government

01:08:54.980 yeah literally there was one example of a woman who needed a stairlift installed 1.00

01:08:58.900 and they're like well that's going to take a while but would you kill yourself instead 0.69

01:09:02.660 and it's just like what are you talking about you've got depression how about kill yourself 0.74

01:09:05.940 well yeah that that's the other thing ac ac grayling has already been like who's who's a

01:09:12.180 who's a sponsor of this um who works with dignity and dying has already been like yeah just let the

01:09:16.980 depressed kill themselves i'm a philosopher and ethicist yeah and i say that the uh the uh 0.89

01:09:21.620 depressed should kill themselves how could you imagine if you're depressed if you're ac grayling's 1.00

01:09:26.180 like friend and you're like oh mate i've been feeling so down recently and he just hands you 0.97

01:09:31.060 a massive bottle of pills this will take care of him you know what to do you know what i think that

01:09:37.380 if someone asks him how are you gonna cure cancer his answer would be to to roll back brexit yeah he 0.99

01:09:43.780 would say apparently his answer rejoin the eu rejoin his answer would be kill all cancer patients

01:09:49.700 then we've not got cancer anymore anyway thomas says could you could pass the migration case work 0.93

01:09:55.060 backlog through a machine learning algorithm and process it all within a few days the home office

01:09:58.820 could be rented uh be a rented office in cleathorps with a handful of people and check gpt subscription

01:10:04.100 and a bunch of satellite offices for enforcement it is not fit for purpose uh yeah well the thing is

01:10:08.740 the the problem is they would just again they're just gonna rub a stamp safe yes yes yes to all of

01:10:14.020 them again a reminder from the segment i already did on this the process is that if you're going

01:10:19.460 to accept them you have a set of tick boxes that you can fill in uh that takes five minutes if you're

01:10:25.460 going to reject them it means that you need to spend the entire day filling out the forms to process

01:10:30.340 the rejection and these people doing this have to hit at least eight decisions per week so if you

01:10:37.860 actually if you actively try to reject people because maybe they don't fit the criteria that

01:10:42.580 will be one per day five per week you will not hit your targets derek says my initial response to

01:10:47.940 stammers.press conference was he's trying to play trump but of course he's not going to do it and just

01:10:52.740 use it as an opportunity to blame this all on brexit and the tories yeah well i think really what

01:10:56.820 he's doing is trying to just drive a nail into the tories i don't i think and again i really think that

01:11:02.820 he's like you've put the blairite project in danger so he's angry at the tories for being so

01:11:07.460 frivolous with mass immigration should have been 350 000 a year what are you doing 900 000 that's 1.00

01:11:12.820 crazy people will notice that you know people will rise up against that what are you doing time to

01:11:18.100 destroy the farms and build up yeah new housing estates to put them in first exactly if you ruin

01:11:23.940 it then we can't do this uh omar says do they even draw a distinction between people out in and

01:11:29.140 natives in and out in it you know what actually they do so they say about 700 000 800 000 people

01:11:34.820 depending on the year um leave every year and it's roughly about 80 000 of those are native british

01:11:40.980 people uh white british they call them the census so we do know actually that it is mostly foreigners

01:11:47.060 leaving when they leave every year i know that people will do worry about that but no we're

01:11:51.220 surprisingly difficult to budge actually uh and when they do budge they tend to go to australia and

01:11:56.820 other ankle locations yeah absolutely america um but yeah so they we do know that it's mostly just

01:12:02.660 foreigners going back lord narevar says slumber's only making the right noises about immigration 1.00

01:12:08.020 because he's scared of all the blowback his admin has got in such a short space of time the automatic

01:12:12.740 visa stamping machine in whitehall hasn't even slowed down don't forget that yeah no this is doubtless as

01:12:18.660 well a tie-in to his unbelievable and unprecedented popular unpopularity uh no one likes him and he

01:12:26.340 knows it chase says kia immigration is out of control it's the tory's fault uk citizenry okay

01:12:31.620 can you mass deport people then kia no um well we already sent 10 000 people away what more do you want

01:12:38.340 yeah it's that's that's the problem listen we're rubber stamping these asylum claims as fast as we can

01:12:43.540 that's just as good as mass deportation right i mean that's on his balance sheet yeah look at the

01:12:49.300 backlog it's gone it's just a problem solved we we got a um a new rumble rant in from oph uk

01:12:57.620 almost got me saying do you feel a passport still carries weight i used to think that those with our

01:13:01.780 passport shouldn't be denaturalized and sent back then our government started handing them out to every

01:13:05.780 jihadi asking for one so first of all no uh second of all i don't think that they uh really carry all

01:13:12.740 that weight anyway because britain has never been a propositional nation in the same way that

01:13:16.500 somewhere like america has uh we've had people come to this country and uh immigrate and integrate

01:13:22.740 but certainly never in the sorts of numbers that we've had over the latter half of the 20th

01:13:27.140 what you're saying it used to be prestigious to have a british passport it was fairly difficult to

01:13:31.780 acquire like go back 30 years most of the people with british passports were definitely ethnically

01:13:37.220 british by gargantuan margin you know it wasn't like you know 25 percent of people with british

01:13:42.180 passports weren't ethnically british it's like 95 or 90 or whatever it's a huge number yeah they are

01:13:49.140 diluting the power of the passport that is totally true maria says deportation deportation deportation

01:13:54.340 is the only thing i want to hear from anyone in the political and media classes uh yeah it's kind of

01:13:59.780 like it's such an obvious open goal as well but anyway sophie says curious how this works trump gets

01:14:06.180 elected and threatens canada with terrorists if they keep allowing illegals to cross from the canadian

01:14:09.540 border suddenly trudeau makes a statement saying they need to limit immigration suddenly as trudeau

01:14:13.620 made that statement starmer falls into line two funny how that works uh yeah maybe trump is going to

01:14:19.620 do something good by proxy for britain yeah but these are we need to say that these are statements

01:14:25.220 these are to see actions and also again what they're preserving is just 300 000 net which is not

01:14:32.900 good that's brought to this place also i've seen some discussion in chats that i'm part of of somebody

01:14:38.020 pointing out that care didn't even really look like he knew what he was saying as he was saying it

01:14:44.340 in in the speech it might just be that they said okay trudeau's doing it so we're globalist sheep

01:14:52.260 will follow along with it and i do also think there's a lot to do with the fact that their approval

01:14:57.060 ratings are so low they've already got over two and a half million signatures on the uh on that um

01:15:03.940 petitioned for a new election as well they know everybody hates them multiple segments that we

01:15:08.980 have done on how everybody hates keir starmer and he's evil have probably reached a cumulative almost

01:15:14.260 million views everybody hates these people so like uh gammon gammon throw out some red meat for 0.98

01:15:20.660 the gammon there you go there you go eat up the slop you fat pigs copy tory tactics 0.98

01:15:26.580 uh hazard says some good topics on this one again how do we stay positive considering reformer so weak 0.96

01:15:33.940 yeah great question um hopefully in the next coming months there will be good news uh i i don't know

01:15:40.820 there will be some good news then no i just just fingers crossed that things get better i i pray to god

01:15:48.500 that somehow uh mind optimism yes somehow all of the immigrants just leave yeah by themselves and 1.00

01:15:56.020 all of a sudden the economy turns around there you go i mean eventually eventually they'll just be a

01:16:00.500 collapse and all the immigrants will leave because there won't be any food here so they'll they'll be 1.00

01:16:05.140 like oh i don't want to starve to death i'm gonna get i mean putin might newt london is that good

01:16:12.740 is that good news yeah the harcon ends will leave arrakis yeah exactly eventually i mean you know

01:16:18.260 maybe a trap consider like if you put yourself in putin's head he's seeing things on a

01:16:22.500 civilizational scale in a thousand years we'll all probably be fine yeah so you know think of it

01:16:28.580 like the al andalus reconquista okay this might take 700 years but it'll be fine for them then

01:16:36.260 um imagine us 720 years old being there to just marvel i'm finally there 739 years of misery

01:16:46.260 centuries centuries centuries of pensions thousand year blairite reich um leon says i was baffled the

01:16:54.020 security agreement of iraq will stop people smuggling over the channel from france perhaps

01:16:58.660 we can expect iraqi guards on the french coast it's just smoking less yeah because i mean like

01:17:02.260 the majority the majority of the people coming across the channel are not from iraq so it's just

01:17:06.180 like what are you doing apparently it was david lammy who went over there can you imagine

01:17:09.940 they were going like well we can't just do rwanda because we've already rubbished rwanda

01:17:13.540 iraq and then they just get a little map of the world out and they go david throw a dart

01:17:19.860 hits iraq didn't weren't we recently at war with them i'll be fine you're black david you can sort 0.89

01:17:26.020 of go over there have you reminded them that you're black yet but that's the thing it's like but iraq 0.97

01:17:31.700 just isn't the problem here i don't i mean maybe maybe there's a lot i'm not privy to i guess but 0.96

01:17:37.220 russian garbage human says from now on brits may accurately refer to mass migration years as the 0.87

01:17:41.380 experiment yeah as said by far-right politician kirstama an experiment they did not consent to 0.96

01:17:46.180 an experiment they should push uh for restitution on for all the criminal economic and moral damage

01:17:50.340 to the people in the country uh take back the courts and hold the candle i totally agree this

01:17:54.420 has been done to us and we're the uh we're the the victims of it the palest son of yakub says 1.00

01:18:00.020 consumer protection laws let your laws yet again protecting consumers from having good products

01:18:05.460 uh yep uh roman observer points out to be fair europe is already behind in technology that's

01:18:09.860 correct yep um no major software company or smartphone company or computer company we don't

01:18:13.860 produce microchips we don't produce anything well what's what's funny is since since the second world

01:18:18.740 war and this is something that a recent book came out discussing like most in britain in particular

01:18:25.060 being a vassal state most of our companies are in some way american most of the products that we have

01:18:30.340 are in one way or another american and then instead of just going like okay can we at least have the

01:18:36.100 good stuff we go no we're going to regulate it so we get the shittiest products imaginable from

01:18:41.060 america because that's what the british people want i mean we're trading off of foreign goods can 0.96

01:18:46.580 we at least have nice foreign goods can we not have the good stuff no they're going to crap foreign 1.00

01:18:51.540 good no thank you in fact like afraid burnt us for every haitian points out uh i don't see a problem

01:18:56.900 with foreign corporations being forced out of our markets in a vacuum if it wasn't our traitorous

01:19:01.460 ruling class doing it i might support the move and yeah if it wasn't like and if it if it was

01:19:06.980 monopolistic chinese companies trying to buy up infrastructure yes free speech platforms that 1.00

01:19:12.180 we're relying on to resist government oppression and to spread the word about what things things are

01:19:17.060 happening yeah i'm not so not so encouraged about having them forced out of our market because

01:19:22.100 like then i mean i mean what okay so is a british social media company going to start

01:19:27.620 like british twitter is it's britta and like like how's that going to look you know like everything

01:19:37.540 that we're going to post is going to be a hate crime basically so it's just like okay great our

01:19:42.020 existence is going to be an act of defiance exactly that's literally how it's going to end up

01:19:51.140 uh michael says elon should just lock the mps out of their accounts for a week or two

01:19:54.900 now that would be hilarious well they've got blue sky now but nobody really cares but they don't

01:19:59.940 want to use it because they get off on the humiliation yeah they feel they're conquering

01:20:05.940 over their foes as well when they use twitter keir starmer he doesn't dream but he loves the

01:20:12.260 humiliation every ratio is a win for him i don't know i don't think keir starmer really understands how

01:20:19.300 social media works i i i doubt keir starmer personally uses social media he's too old he's

01:20:24.100 in his 60s right he's a robot though yeah yeah he should come naturally to it no no no like he's

01:20:29.220 it's not in his programming it's it's the sort of like lisa nandy's of the world you know the sort of

01:20:33.940 younger um perpetually online types they're the ones who'd be most affected by locking out their

01:20:39.220 accounts and it would be funny like withdrawing the drug from the heroin addict right so suddenly in

01:20:44.500 the labor cabinet meeting everyone's really pissed off and kiss i was like oh why is everyone so

01:20:48.980 upset today and one of them sound nearly bunged up enough i can't do impressions but uh one of them

01:20:56.500 is gonna have to explain well elon musk has locked us out of our twitter accounts uh das ogre says never

01:21:03.220 trust government bureaucrats he says more but i don't think i need to go on i completely agree with

01:21:07.060 you completely uh the unbreakable litany says just think starmer wants to send us back to feudalism

01:21:12.420 while can while being both unable and unwilling to fulfill his duty as a member of the running

01:21:16.420 class feudal class system those who farm those who fight uh those who abate the wrath of god uh

01:21:21.380 yeah kiss time i can't do any of those things again if they wanted to bring us back to like the 15th

01:21:25.780 century or the or the 16th or maybe even at the latest the 19th century can we at least have the

01:21:30.820 nice things that came with that can we have like cultural cohesion an empire an empire that'd be nice

01:21:36.740 no no you get you get 19th century technology and billions of bemalians there you go and the econ

01:21:44.580 the economy will go up apparently maybe hopefully uh a guy from hungary says starmer is the devil's

01:21:51.940 advocate not figuratively he loves to defend a juicy jihadist case and that's all true uh not that

01:21:58.340 that's totally true though is starmer we've got a juicy one for yeah but that's both starmer and car

01:22:04.580 um not that is concerned of the uk just to make keir squirm kemi during question time should highlight

01:22:10.100 the nigerian christians massacred by the other other monotheistic religion is she game uh i don't

01:22:15.780 think she's going to i don't i don't see that being concern of hers and if she does it'll be we need

01:22:21.620 refugees she's come out with all of the uh oh we need to reduce immigration but if there's one 1.00

01:22:26.900 effective thing that this new speech has done it's completely kneecap all of their rhetoric

01:22:30.740 yes because they're out now they're saying the exact same thing and they can point to 14 years

01:22:36.900 of tory policy yeah this was your idea why did you do it well we need to stop it yeah well you're

01:22:41.140 and he he literally he literally stole our talking points he's not talking points he's been watching

01:22:46.660 lotus eaters he has a he has a secretary who's subscribed to us and the academic agent and they've

01:22:52.580 been stealing our talking points wrote it down for him he had no idea what he was saying but it worked 0.97

01:22:57.060 yeah a bunch of his staffers gave him a speech and like look just say this god damn it tech heresy 0.96

01:23:01.780 says regarding the attacks on christians uh still let's talk about the tax on church and uh attacks 0.91

01:23:06.260 on churches are we discussing state approved burnings of catholic churches in canada um yeah

01:23:11.540 true well we're not and we weren't in that particular one but that's definitely a thing that's been

01:23:15.860 happening um do you see that they've recently rebuilt notre dame though they finally got that sorted

01:23:20.340 that's good and i think i think modernists lost on this one thing yeah which was quite surprising

01:23:25.620 i thought they were going to screw it up um but uh theodore says blasphemy laws are not inherently

01:23:30.820 un-british as many have been claiming talking as if we're the 51st state and have american free

01:23:34.980 speech tradition blasphemy was still a common law offense until can you guess i can read it right 0.98

01:23:40.660 2008 and in scotland until this year the last successful prosecution was as recent relatively

01:23:45.940 speaking as 1964 yeah i'm kind of for it i'm for i'm for it just not not for all religions i don't

01:23:53.300 want all religions to be equal no you you can't blaspheme against uh anglicanism remember carla's

01:23:58.740 red lock we all know this and what did lock want to do to atheists uh sure but it's not just atheists

01:24:05.220 like it's other religionists right so like basically i don't want to privilege islam in britain if we're

01:24:10.020 going to privilege any religion in britain which appears to be what's on the table we should be

01:24:13.700 privileging the church of england and anglicanism because it's our religion like we it's ours we we made it

01:24:20.420 it they don't get to have it you don't get to blaspheme against it orthodox

01:24:28.100 also i'm not also connor yeah also connor is banned especially connor um

01:24:34.340 but i think some protestants are based uh well yeah some probably oh yeah yeah just not ones in

01:24:40.820 the church of england but the point is traditionally we should protect our traditional religion not

01:24:46.020 a foreign religion like obviously thought you were about to start advocating burning catholics again 0.99

01:24:51.860 to be honest right you know so no no no no hang on hand right so i'm having dinner with my family

01:24:58.260 yesterday and bonfire night had come up somehow right one of the kids i mentioned or something like

01:25:03.140 that and uh my son had learned about bonfire in schools oh yeah this is when they they they

01:25:09.300 set fire to or killed guy fawkes that's where we burned the fgs that's correct son yeah and my wife's 0.78

01:25:13.940 like were we in favor or against guy fawkes burning up blowing up parliament and i was like you know 0.54

01:25:19.300 what i'm not even sure these days like i know that we like obviously historically it was yes we got guy

01:25:25.620 fawkes we didn't blow up parliament but my wife is looking at the political position being like are we 0.94

01:25:30.180 for or against that you know it's like yeah i'm not sure i declined to comment yeah hard to tell

01:25:37.220 anyway uh rb says the global persecution of christians by evil people only so further further galvanize my belief

01:25:43.620 but christianity is the only correct religion it doesn't even really matter it's our religion

01:25:47.300 right it's our old ancient religion and i'm not giving up all i mean i think if you believe in

01:25:52.500 christianity it matters if it's sure correct religion but for those people who are just sort of

01:25:57.220 agnostic or atheists like myself who are just like i'm just not a religious person if i'm going to choose

01:26:02.660 a religion it's going to be christianity whether i agree or believe in it or not because it just happens

01:26:08.340 to be our settled religion i'm not having an argument about this this you know i'm not having

01:26:12.900 like weird foreign religion we'll get tom rousel to come back in to argue with you on it oh well you

01:26:18.100 know it's been this way for more than a thousand years i'm not having the argument about it all right

01:26:22.420 for now it's just the christians um lord nerevar says i saw your video on the christians yesterday

01:26:27.060 stelios and it's really illuminating how little the world cares for christianity now europe needs to

01:26:31.460 grow its teeth again or i fear it'll be back in the dark days of christian suppression once more

01:26:35.380 and uh and omar says if you want to know how persecuted christians are the uk government 0.95

01:26:39.060 refuses to support even the most vile murderers and pedophilic rapists but find any excuse to

01:26:43.700 deny legitimate asylum claims from a christian i mean you remember they were literally arresting

01:26:48.420 christians for praying in their heads near abortion clinics we also have a few rumble rants now so first

01:26:56.740 one christ is king time to convert carl no i'm not a religious person all right ball says any british

01:27:04.660 social media site is going to be owned uh is going to be a reincarnation of the bbc and will

01:27:09.060 be owned by ofcom oh yeah it will be totally regulated by ofcom and everything on it will

01:27:13.540 be incredibly well it'll be awful but it'll be great bets to see who can get banned fastest

01:27:20.100 it'll be us between us but between oh yeah i guess yeah uh oph uk again in a thousand years we'll all

01:27:28.100 be fine no we won't oh thanks for the optimism there uh a dutch a dutch historian a dutch lib

01:27:35.300 historian said the next 100 years will be violent but then we'll see an islamic western fusion 0.90

01:27:40.500 culture he forgets islam doesn't make anybody who says that there's going to be an islamic western 0.99

01:27:45.300 fusion culture except of council estate gingers converting is an idiot they are the only westerners 1.00

01:27:51.540 i can think of as a group if you want to count is and i've never even i've never heard of that 0.99

01:27:59.300 but if you want to count ginger council estate hoodlums as a group they are the only one so

01:28:04.500 maybe dankula there's no one there's no widespread adoption of islam by the native british it's not a

01:28:09.300 religion that comes naturally to the western mindset there's a reason that when it's actually

01:28:13.620 entered europe it's either been fought back or it's had to take centuries of persecution to get it to

01:28:19.700 stick yeah and presumably intermixing as well in that persecution anyway on that note we are out

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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - November 29, 2024

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1053

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