The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1055
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In this episode of the lotus eaters, we are joined by the YouTube psychologist Richard Grannon to discuss psychopaths in politics, narcissists and the dark triad. In this episode, we discuss the link between psychopaths and politics, and the role that psychopaths play in our society.
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hello and welcome to podcast of the lotus eaters episode 1055 it is the 3rd of december 2024
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today we are going to be discussing the way in which politicians behave like psychopaths
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then we take a quick break from the dark triad stuff to talk about hunter biden and then we're
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going to talk about our youtubers narcissists which will be very interesting i'm joined as ever by the
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long-suffering josh hello there that is correct i have been long-suffering the youtube psychologist
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richard grannon hello thank you much requested we've got you here thank you very much having me
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on gentlemen tell the audience a little bit about yourself and we've got your socials up on the
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screen now oh that's very good of you um so my my background was i did a degree in psychology and
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messed around for 10 years being a nightclub doorman and then i started teaching self-defense
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and then i went from self-defense physical self-defense into psychological self-defense
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which led me to talk about childhood trauma ptsd and narcissism and i've been doing that now for
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12 years just the man we need for this particular also long-suffering
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and um we have just recorded an excellent brokonomics which will be out next week so
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that was really good fun yeah i enjoyed that um a couple of quick announcements the last podcast i was
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on i recommended getting a water distiller when we were talking about fluoride which you should do
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but it demineralizes the water so if you did do that you need to add back 87 minerals back into
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your water and they're all found in pink salt so just get a you know himalayan pink salt or a
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lancashire pink salt grate a little bit of that into your water and you're fine anyway covered all of
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that uh should we talk about how politicians behave like psychopaths of course so i think there's
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a self-selection pressure for people who are higher in psychopathy to choose to seek powers of
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position and because they they are seeking these positions of power and they are psychopathically
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inclined they're also better at getting those positions and i've talked about this before actually
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um in one of the episodes of my show i talked about how they try and manipulate people and i thought
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it'd be interesting to go over it with you richard because of course um you've touched on this on
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your youtube channel and so i wanted to put forward my sorts of understanding and the the idea of
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today is we're going to go through um various kinds of behaviors that psychopaths exhibit and try and
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map them on to politics and see um so i've i've got some examples i'm sure we can come up with plenty
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particularly in times like these and so i may as well get on with it so it's worth mentioning as
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well that um oh i should have another link there by the way samson um but psychopathy is something
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that is neurologically rooted it seems to be something that people are born into having and so there is
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a physiological basis and i'm going to talk about some of the brain areas ever so briefly to illustrate
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that because we can observe neuroscientifically um some of the things um that um are the root cause
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of why they have these behaviors in the first place so there's an area of the brain called the
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ventromedial prefrontal cortex so ventral means just lower and the prefrontal cortex is this part
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in your forehead um which is involved in decision making which is my specialization and emotional
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regulation and moral judgment and there's reduced activity in psychopaths in that area and then there's
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also the dorsolateral prefrontal cortex which is the other end of it um which is involved in things
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like executive function which determines where your attention is focused and includes things like
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working memory um your cognitive control and also your inhibitions to inappropriate responses so your
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ability to control responding inappropriately to things and so that's obviously very pertinent and
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then you have the amygdala which is a part of the brain many people are familiar with um there's
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under reduced activity there as well and this obviously has a role in processing emotions and
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especially fear because of course people know it being the part of the brain that is involved in
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the fight or flight response as well as empathy and then finally um there are more areas but this is
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the last one i'm talking about the anterior cingulate cortex this is quite important in um decision making
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as well i've done a little bit of work on it um in the neuroscience of decision making but this is
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involved in emotional regulation conflict monitoring and empathy and of course empathy is one of the more
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obvious ones there but the point being is that it's not just there's a part of the brain where
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you know you have that specific physiology and then you're a psychopath there's a broad network and
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all of these different brain areas vary it might be the case that in certain people who exhibit
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psychopathic traits there might be one of the brain areas that has normal function or sort of
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acceptable level function but it does very much have a physical basis and it seems to be
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a very real thing even though people use it in a quite colloquial sense so hang on hang on just
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just to dumb it down from my level so you're saying that you know some people might be born with a big
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nose for example and some people are born with a big a big rostral ventral psychopathy bit
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have i have i got that more or less right i couldn't have had a better myself
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but that that's that's largely what we're going with yeah um but it's something that you're born
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with and you can observe it and in many ways you could measure people's brains and find out whether
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they are inclined to being a psychopath okay but everybody's got a nose even if it's just not
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particularly big so so presumably everybody's got at least a bit of psychopathy yeah it's one of those
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things where there's a variation there's a sort of uh a sliding scale as to how much you resemble it
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right it's not because of course it is dealing with um the amount of activity in the brain but
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let's look at some aspects of psychopathic behavior um and try and apply them to politicians because i think
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that there are definitely lots of notable examples and it's actually quite a powerful way of explaining
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all the ways in which they're wronging the population and the first of which is isolation
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and this is a classic psychopathic tendency to make someone feel isolated from people who might
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otherwise support them so they are more easily manipulated and this can apply to politics in a
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number of different ways and think of a few straight off the top of my head exactly yeah sure go ahead
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well trying to close down pubs um the whole covid thing um you know all that sort of stuff they can
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also do it in a more abstract way as well in that they say concerns around mass immigration are racist
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racism obviously very taboo in mainstream western society so people don't want to talk about
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immigration they would rather talk about less controversial things and therefore they feel
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more abnormal than they really are and this helps control how people view things and as you can see
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um the majority of the country here almost all of it are in favor of tighter controls on migration
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however um this isn't necessarily reflected in how willing um the media and the political
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establishment are in addressing this issue and talking about it and this seems to me to be one
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of those things what what do you think richard um it's it's really interesting i uh just to go back
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um the we we said in the interview did in economics part the the difference between psychopathy and
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narcissism as far as the genetic component is there seems to be a stronger case for a strong genetic
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component in psychopathy the thing with the brains um i know that there is a little bit of a internal
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conflict in academia where we have the correlation and causation fallacy so we're not sure or if they
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are not sure whether people are born that way or if through the lack of usage of the brain
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um we might be seeing less activity in certain areas um but overall the consensus seems to be that
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that it is that it is genetic i think that my general position on that is that there's a
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bi-directional relationship because you can say that there's a genetic component but there's also
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such a thing known as epigenetics whereby your environment selects which genes are expressed
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and therefore your your environment is not irrelevant even if you're taking a purely genetic standpoint
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which you can't these days can you know like it's it's it's it's kind of it's it's gotten out of
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date that argument the uh the other thing i wanted to say is with with psychopathy obviously these
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things are just models we don't have like a blood test for it but as a model of behavior largely
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speaking psychopathy uh comes as an american uh construct and it's constructed around the american
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american penal system and so just to help people think about it when we're looking at the statistics
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they correlate around criminals people who you would find in prison so they are law breakers and
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they tend to get caught our politicians i think are highly psychopathic but their coma as you know
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a psychopathy is highly comorbid so one of the comorbidities is narcissism but there's a particular
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type of narcissism there's communal narcissism and there's pro-social narcissism so they will hide
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their narcissist narcissistic psychopathy is nasty psychopaths you can negotiate with i worked in
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the security industry for 10 years i worked for gangsters and criminals you follow their rules you
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do what they say they're satiated if it's psychopathic narcissism they're never satiated and they'll hide
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behind a rhetoric of being for the community for um social issues for social justice but that is just a
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cover for their machiavellian plans the other way for just for people watching to think about
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psychopathy highly criminal very low impulse control extremely goal orientated to steal manual
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position and to add to it a little bit it's probably going to be the case not just that
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they're self-selecting in the power structures but the higher up the power structure you go
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in order to withstand the pressure at that altitude they will be more aggressively narcissistic
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and more aggressively psychopathic because they're then competing not with us they're competing with
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the narcissistic psychopaths and the consequence of the fall the higher you go is worse and worse and
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worse so i i just wanted to add that add that in there is also um a problem with the the sort of
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psychological understanding of psychopaths and you rightly identified it is that a lot of it is rooted in
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the justice system and it may miss some of the um aspects of it that might otherwise go undetected
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because people can be psychopaths and not come into contact with the justice system yeah or they
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could be self-aware and and actually make effort to try and mitigate their disposition like me yeah
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yeah really that was a long silence they both just looked at me and oh no i know i know i know
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because i always wonder about that because if if if you have sort of psycho uh psychopathic things
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going on in your head i've always wondered to what extent that's just maleness opposed to just
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maleness yes you're coming out as a feminist now no no no no i'm just toxic masculinity i'm just saying
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when when psychopathic i mean when somebody slightly irritates you and you get a lot of psychopathic
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thoughts in your head but you don't act on them i always wonder if is is that normal for all men
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or i would say so yeah for and for all for all humans so when we're looking at these diagnostic
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criteria and we're looking at the models that like we said in in the earlier interview it's all culture
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bound we can't say that there isn't gender prejudice here from male clinicians and female clinicians
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against men and against women we all it's like an internalized gendered or sexist view that that we all
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have so we assume that's problematic like like an aggressive impulse in a civilized society is
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problematic but if we go back to war we'll all happily i i would my position on it is even nice
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people will become psychopaths inside of three or four days of frontline combat as a survival response
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your empathy is going to go down your impulse control is going to go down it's adaptive if you're
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if you're in the trenches it's an adaptive response it's a positive response i don't want
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you wringing your hands over the deaths of people i want you to see the enemy and kill them without
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thought didn't they do that with the nazis they gave them they gave them some sort of drug
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meth i believe it was called yeah we could be that one um america has been running that experiment quite
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uh but it had but it had but didn't it have the effect of making it easier to see people that you
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were fighting as people you hated or something like that i i think that was the intended effect
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i have not really looked into it too much yes because i i don't think giving soldiers meth is
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a good idea um they've got some drawbacks i've heard that they said some of the officers notes were
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like oh it's very good and the men's morale is very high but the next day it seems to be quite low
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until we give them more i mean they're all like nazi methods at that point yes um but yeah you would i
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i guess if you were if you if you'd not slept for a few days or you're on very very limited sleep
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and you've been high on a strong stimulant then yeah you wouldn't see people as you wouldn't be
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like oh this wonderful part where are you from you wouldn't patients shorten a lot yeah to be a nice
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person you've got to be well rested well fed and comfortable really those are the conditions to be
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yes that makes sense empathetic really so another behavior that i um is true of psychopaths and i've
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observed in politicians is that of coercive control and i think this one's going to be pretty easy to
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talk about where it's behaviors that deprive a person of their independence and can make them feel
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isolated and my example here is the welfare state itself it's basically a covert means of influencing
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people it purports to help people but as economists like thomas soul layout it robs them of their
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independence and in many ways it creates a situation of what is known as learned helplessness
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in that it deprives people of their agency to help themselves as well as breaking up the family unit as
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well um because they're less dependent on their family for income and therefore um you know you get
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this epidemic of single mothers that we so now now we're coming back into something i understand so
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that's the economic side of things so it used to be the case for all of human history and everywhere
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outside of the west that you have basically a large family group you know multi-generational
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families living together and in the western world in the last few decades instead what we have is a
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massive welfare system but what it does is it separates you out from your family because you
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want to go and get your own flat and your own set of benefits and all the rest of it yeah that sounds
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about right to me statism would that kind of authoritarian statism where people become very
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very dependent on the state would breed the echo of narcissism it would breed codependence it would
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breed people who are very um ideologically and psychologically submissive in fact they would
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start to see submission and obedience as a virtue and that would be one one effect yes welfare state
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it would be terrible if that actually happened wouldn't it it would be like a dystopia
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if only we lived in a world like that hey the other thing with coercive control that i thought
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of was uh the lockdowns so coercive control i could scream and yell at you to frighten you into doing
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what it is that i want you to do but that's quite a high calorie burn that's a lot of effort if i can
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subtly guilt you and shame you that's much more effective it's much it's a much higher much better
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leverage over your emotions and your behavior so governments use psychological manipulation rather
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than force not because they have any particular compunction against the force it's just easier it's
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cheaper it's more effective remember that they have that behavioral insights team and they they
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actively fund um behavioral psychology and decision making and i i know this very well i've done lots
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of deep dives into the government stuff and i know the research inside out who was the the reaction
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to the response team and there was 12 people on the nudge unit was it the nudge unit and it was
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something like eight of the 12 of the response to the pan can i say yeah illness to the virus
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uh was they were psychologists and i was thinking what where's your epidemiologist as your virologist
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that was the um yeah there was another there was that wasn't the nudge unit there was another
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steering group that sat above it making the decisions wasn't it the it was above it
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you're on about sage are you was it sage it might have been no there was another steering
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i can't remember what it's called now but yeah it didn't primary response wasn't it yes the prime
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but they didn't have any any epidemiologists on it or anyone with a with a relevant medical
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background it was all psychologists psychologists so they're there so what what we de facto know
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through their actions not their words which is how people should rate the behavior of abusers what
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are they doing not what are they said what are they saying their response was absolutely explicitly
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psychological manipulation that is how we will handle this we can't force people to do it
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but if we can trick them into spying on each other into guilting and shaming and humiliating people
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then we have the coercive control we're looking so if we had a narcissistic mother who was treating her
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children like that yes that that would safely qualify as a narcissist uh and that is what the government
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is doing they would they would possibly if if the reason she was doing that was that she feared that
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her children would individuate into adulthood sorry to add another layer of complexity but it's
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probably more correct she would be classed as a borderline or a vulnerable fragile narcissist
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so the borderline has abandonment terror i believe our government has abandonment terror
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and when we saw it during the uh lockdowns so the behavior was more like that of a borderline
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every time you try to look at sweden they just said act like adults if you're fit and healthy
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go out but don't sneeze on each other don't drink each other's spit on the bus
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basic things there's all nice people should do quite difficult these days quite difficult
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and if you're sick stay home and don't enter that's what sweden did and it worked quite well
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every time we showed any sort of agency adulthood or sovereignty it was chopped off at the knees
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that's a borderline strategy and and what do you call it when the the narcissism that government
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displayed in response to the southport riots which was to immediately call you names and try and shut
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you down i i felt that was uh probably on the fragile narcissism spectrum i mean the guy who was in charge
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of it um is is a clearly a fragile narcissist that was very heavy-handed which is compensatory so he
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was i think full of fear and full of genuine contempt he hates he loads white working class people he
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loads the british white working class but he kind of forgot to dress it up a bit oh no he was very
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very low impulse control so there we see fragile narcissism a little bit of psychopathy i think he did
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all of that in a non-stop narcissistic rage so if there's a narcissistic injury you dare to challenge
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my authority as your rightful king punish these peasants that was why there was fast tracking that
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was why there was releasing of real criminals from prisons because he was in a non-stop what we would
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call an emotional flashback um a non-stop for two weeks absolute narcissistic rage driven by fear
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driven by disgust and his response was outrageously disproportionate it was violent legally can you
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say legally violent the way in which he applied the law was was excessive and violent so um let's
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talk about something that would definitely never happen i've got for you a couple of videos let's
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just go into the first one of uh joe biden explaining something that he would certainly never do
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question regarding the family i'm extremely proud of my son hunter he has overcome an addiction he is
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he's one of the brightest most decent men i know and i am satisfied that i'm not going to do anything
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i said i said i'd abide by the jury decision i will do that and i will not pardon him all right then we
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got the next one ask you will you accept the jury's outcome their verdict no matter what it is yes and
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have you ruled out a pardon for your son yes right and then of course we got his press secretary making
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it abundantly clear will the president pardon or commute his son uh if he's convicted so i've answered
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this question before it was asked of me not too long ago a couple of weeks ago and i was very clear and
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i said no okay let's go back to the first question of the briefing i know you said anyway then she
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changes outfit about nine or six times and basically says the same thing over and over again now the
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fascinating thing about this is that the um the corporate media actually believed it now this is
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quite a long video as you can imagine because there's quite a lot of believing going on with the
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corporate media but it is worth playing just a little bit of this to see how much they they were
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completely synced into it yeah let's play uh there we go presidential promise to put the law
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before a family i said i abide by the jury decision i will do that and i will not pardon him letting the
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world know that he will not wipe away the decision of 12 of his son's peers was asked directly and he
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has said he wouldn't pardon um his son if he gets convicted let's wait and see what happens if he loses
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yeah but i mean but he said it he's gonna get pardoned by his dad there's no question about that the
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president has ruled out pardoning his son major commitment from the president accepting the outcome of the
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trial and also pledging not to pardon his son so the challenge for him is really to continue to
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live up to his values when it was really personal and he did that today it seems like a pretty
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normal straightforward answer but it it takes new weight when we see what trump is saying of the
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outcome of his trial we're hearing by the republicans who say they don't accept the jury's verdict here
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in new york the contrast is profound to sit there and say well i'm not going to intervene in the legal
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process and i wouldn't pardon my son one side democrats and joe biden protecting the justice system
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and on the other republicans and trump protecting our current president of the united states
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has so much respect for the law that he has said he would not pardon his son
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i mean what you know again it's all about the contrast president biden saying i will respect
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whatever this jury decides versus donald trump after he was convicted on 34 counts in the entire
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system but if you speed them up apparently it does well yeah you kind of have to do so much i mean
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i'll stop it there there's loads more of that uh but there you go as you can see under no
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circumstances is going to joe biden going to um pardon his son uh breaking news joe biden's pardoned his
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son so um this is the statement that um came out where uh basically he then goes on to to blame donald
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trump uh for him pardoning his son uh yes i don't know how republicans what made me done it i did go
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back and i watched a whole bunch of cnn and msnbc takes subsequent to this news yes and and i i did have
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to laugh at the first panel because it was these four women panelists who were on msnbc or whatever
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it was and they asked the first one uh oh this is the breaking news and what do you think of it and
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the first one was like oh shit i don't know what the line to take on this is right so she just squirmed
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and said oh i don't don't come back don't ask me don't ask me and then the next one came along
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and she was a little bit cleverer this one and she was like um yes it's disappointing that he's done
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that but it's trump who's lowered the standards in politics and this is all you know standard all
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this is kind of trump's fault so absolutely perfect narcissistic defense yes i cheated on you yes i
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stole from you but can't you see how this is slightly your fault well yes you you made me do
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the crimes i didn't want to do them but i'll be able to quickly say what i think actually oh yes go on
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so i think he came out and said those things when the democratic establishment was behind him but as we
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know they stabbed him in the back and put kamala harris in his place and so he doesn't feel any
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obligation to them anymore and so his final act in politics is going to be to pardon his son because
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he's got nothing left to lose because he doesn't care about politics anymore and it's pretty self
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evident if you look at any videos of him now he's pretty happy that he's not involved in politics
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anymore yes i mean i won't go through all the details on this statement because um on our other
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channel the daily channel carl um carl went into a bit more just some observations first of all um
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it is still only the beginning of december and joe's term runs until whatever it is on january
00:24:20.040
something like that so he might need to issue another pardon if hunter commits any more crimes
00:24:24.200
between now and then it's entirely possible he needs to get them in yes to go on a crack bender
00:24:30.600
get his crimes in get part well apparently this was this was agreed if if we believe the biden story over
00:24:36.600
thanksgiving dinner um so so he must have brought that really good dinner and it's and it's incredibly
00:24:47.320
broad this pardon it's basically for any crime he's committed in the last 10 years so he could
00:24:52.280
have a mountain of dead hookers which for hunter biden is actually quite possible buried in his under
00:24:58.600
his maybe not direct murder but through disease and no he's no he's no that's a that's a federal crime
00:25:03.480
isn't it or was that a state crime i don't know so he's had a he's had a blanket pardon for anything
00:25:07.960
that happened in the last any crimes committed discovered charged uncharged you know this is
00:25:13.400
good because it exposes the shameless hypocrisy and shameless nepotism that they're constantly
00:25:19.960
accusing the other side of yeah they're doing exactly what they can so that guy should have gone
00:25:25.720
to prison because that's the law but this is good so this helps so to put this into context um i mean well
00:25:31.400
biden called the prosecution of his son selective and political but it was done by his doj right um
00:25:40.520
and the reason that they they brought those charges is because they wanted to charge him on the gun crime
00:25:44.920
and then let all of the other stuff basically you know slip to the side so it's kind of so he's a
00:25:52.280
registered felon and therefore he's not allowed to own a firearm and then he he uh had a falling out with
00:25:59.480
i think his sister's widow who he also started dating weird um but he ended up putting that gun
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in the bin or in the trash um and that is also a crime as well what a criminal genius well and and
00:26:13.880
all of this is going on at the same time that you know fbi swat teams are raiding catholic churches
00:26:19.640
parishes treating parents as domestic terrorists if they turn up to you know school meetings and
00:26:25.240
complain about the literature um in fact the department of justice has just ordered a 75
00:26:29.720
year old catholic woman to jail because she silently prayed near an abortion center yes so is that in
00:26:38.680
the states because i know we have that here uh yes yes uh yeah yeah her name was paulette harlow
00:26:45.320
she prayed too close to the abortion center yes in her head silently i hope to jail for you
00:26:52.120
that's offensive to the satanists that run run the democratic establishment i should also point
00:26:58.120
out that the the you know what i was saying before about the gun charge because it it kind of diverted
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attention away from the real crime which was being a sort of bag man for the ukrainian money laundering
00:27:07.160
operation his brother jim is in the same situation as hunter here so you've got to wonder is jim going to
00:27:15.000
get a pardon closer to the to the date of whatever it is in january if it's all part of the mad scramble
00:27:22.360
to take the last few bits and pieces of opportunity i mean they'll probably steal the knives and forks
00:27:27.560
when they leave the white house it's anything and everything it's such an unseemly scramble now to leave
00:27:33.560
you know to take as much as they possibly can and to leave as big of a mess as they can for trump to deal
00:27:37.960
was when he gets in vis-a-vis the uh ukrainian situation i'll tell you why i'm so upset with
00:27:43.800
this sorry the reason i'm so upset with this is because did anyone see this coming yes yes i think
00:27:52.120
everybody on this panel saw it coming everybody in the audience saw it coming so why am i so upset
00:27:57.000
because it turns out there was a bloody polymarket um betting line open on this we could we could have
00:28:03.880
four x star money because liberals were coming in here and say of course he's not going to pardon
00:28:09.080
his son he said he's not think of the rates i was doing work on this in like 2021 when biden was
00:28:15.560
assuming office and i was just like well he's done lots of crimes it's undeniable he's going to be
00:28:19.480
convicted for these i could have made so much money because i and the reason i'm so upset with myself
00:28:25.320
is because this is so wildly obvious and there was a way to quadruple my money but it never occurred
00:28:31.880
to me that there would be a market for something this blindingly obvious but this is a perfect trade
00:28:36.520
because you've got all the liberals on the other side saying of course it's not going to happen he
00:28:39.800
said it's not going to happen so you can make money out of liberal delusion yes oh there we go when i
00:28:44.440
do that on market i never it never occurred to me to check polymarket so so this christmas i'm going
00:28:48.280
to have to spend um the time that i would have spent you know re-watching band of brothers and
00:28:52.440
doing a jigsaw puzzle i'm going to have to spend it combing is there like a polymarket um odds on
00:28:58.680
whether donald trump can is going to overthrow democracy or something like that because
00:29:03.800
i'm willing to put money on that yeah how do you quantify that though you need to kind of clear well
00:29:08.600
possibly but um the the left is is not uh wildly happy with this because they bought into this uh
00:29:16.280
110 and they're now made to look rather silly um what do you make of all of this what is likely to be
00:29:24.440
the response on capitol hill to this breaking news good to be with you uh see i told you so uh
00:29:31.400
they're all they're all like that so the next time any of us complain about anything trump does this
00:29:35.960
this pardon is just deflating for those of us who have been out there for a few years now yelling
00:29:40.920
about what a unique threat donald trump is for joe biden to do something like this trump nobody's above
00:29:47.000
the law we've been screaming well joe biden just made clear his son hunter is above the law
00:29:51.000
donald trump lies every time he opens his mouth we've been screaming joe biden repeatedly lied
00:29:55.720
about this the politicization of the justice system donald trump and his people have been
00:30:00.360
screaming that's exactly what biden said here joe is this a politics of purity i mean we had donald
00:30:06.280
so yes i mean i mean the left knows they haven't got a leg to stand on on this one completely flies in
00:30:12.280
the face of everything um also let's come back to the point about the uh pardon going back to 2014.
00:30:17.160
why 2014 you might well ask well that was when uh hunter biden was appointed as um
00:30:22.360
a burisma director oh presumably because of his deep background in the energy sector which he didn't
00:30:28.520
have was was it two hundred thousand dollars a year no no no it was millions a year it was two
00:30:34.440
hundred thousand dollars a month or a week or something oh that sounds about right that that's
00:30:38.520
the figure i've got in my head but of course he is just any old uh law graduate probably not even a
00:30:45.640
a particularly good one yeah i can't remember exactly his formal qualifications but it was so
00:30:50.040
obvious because at the time biden was vice president to obama i believe and biden was directly overseeing
00:30:57.480
the business in ukraine for obama so what mark of all you you asking the question what marketable
00:31:02.440
skills did hunter have he had access to his dad that that's the skill well that's it that's the only
00:31:08.680
possible thing they could be paying him that kind of money for exactly and it's a way to it's a way to
00:31:12.840
start funneling money from ukraine um to joe biden which we can only assume um has continued
00:31:19.960
somewhat since then it's outrageous really isn't it i mean one of the uh wherever you stand on whether
00:31:26.040
ukraine should be in nato or in the eu or whatever one of the reasons for them not being able to join
00:31:29.960
the eu that's been cited again and again is the same reasons why serbia fails or bosnia fails to get
00:31:35.480
their applications the eu it's highly highly corrupt you see the americans doing yes
00:31:41.800
and you think well how is this any different to serbia how is the democrats were just a little
00:31:47.480
bit better at hiding it because they also control the media um now if you want the full details on
00:31:52.520
this um on our other channel lotus eaters daily uh carl uh got into all of that stuff yesterday which
00:31:58.920
for the interest of time i can't cover here um but um for me the short takeaway is this
00:32:04.760
president trump was impeached for the things that hunter for looking into the things that hunter
00:32:14.200
biden has just been pardoned for that is true yeah because remember he was impeached for investigating
00:32:21.400
what was going on in ukraine that's what he was impeached for yes because he asked that question
00:32:25.880
about that prosecutor that joe biden arranged to have sacked and that was looking at the impeachment
00:32:31.480
yeah and because he looked into it that's what they impeached him for and which we're told there
00:32:38.520
was nothing iffy going on there but hunter biden has just been pardoned for that thing that trump
00:32:43.480
was looking in for that got him in i've just popped an article in uh our studio thing for samson to pull
00:32:49.560
up quickly of i created a timeline from about 2012 up until about 2020 of all of the business dealings
00:32:57.640
that hunter did i mapped them in a timeline and when you see them in that um format it seems pretty
00:33:03.880
resounding oh there we go so that's an article on our website where you can follow the timeline yeah
00:33:10.120
so this this covers his dealings in china um ukraine and russia interesting selection of countries these
00:33:17.160
seem to be the only countries that um he dealt in and they are all political enemies well except maybe
00:33:23.800
ukraine of the united states this is one of the things that leads to the general malaise and sense
00:33:30.680
of learned helplessness cynicism nihilism that infects the general public because when this type
00:33:36.760
of thing happens what is it is that that's the social contract right between us and the state oh
00:33:42.920
that's long gone torn to pieces why should we obey the law why should we pay taxes why should we do
00:33:48.280
anything we're being told to do when the people are in power are you don't mind a little bit you don't
00:33:53.400
mind a bit around the edges everybody can deal with that as long as the trains run on time and
00:33:58.200
the potholes are filled in but this is this is outrageous and and because there's we're so impotent
00:34:04.520
as people to do anything what are we going to do about it yeah just drop into learned helplessness you
00:34:08.520
just drop into that the state you mentioned before which is another end result of prolonged sustained
00:34:13.880
gaslighting and narcissistic abuse yes now the obvious question comes up if hide if hunter biden was
00:34:20.200
getting paid all of that money what did he spend it on well luckily we know because this is his his
00:34:26.120
bank records which of course we obtained from the laptop which i'll be talking about more in a minute
00:34:29.800
so let's have a look at some highlights of what he was spending his money on well the top as you can
00:34:35.640
see there 1.7 million went on cash withdrawals from atms now i presume in america they also have debit
00:34:45.160
cards and and those plastic things that you pay with so so why do you need to take out a vast
00:34:51.480
amount of money in cash drugs yes i think you've got it now i have to say only drugs there's a lot
00:34:59.720
of drugs well that's a lot of time at an atm i would love to know to take out 1.6 million in cash
00:35:05.400
at an atm how long do you have to actually stand there i mean it must have been there more often than
00:35:10.040
not i'd have to do the sums but i don't know what the limit is so is the limit like 500 pounds so
00:35:15.320
let's say it's 500 do it twice a day you go past the cash point machine does it 365 365 365 yeah i
00:35:22.520
suppose so yeah maybe two or three times a day yeah okay dollars gets you there is crack cocaine
00:35:29.160
gone up in price significantly that's the other thing i was thinking surely for 1.6 million you
00:35:33.080
could satiate an entire glaswegian council estate and and that was one man at least for a day
00:35:40.520
but yeah i don't understand because you know he's been mainly photographed by himself smoking crack
00:35:48.360
i suppose he had to share it with the hookers which we come to in a second at least he's generous but
00:35:52.600
i mean the man must have a superhero level of liver or something he must be very resilient i'm kind
00:35:58.040
of impressed yes the next line is payments for various women uh what is that uh seven hundred
00:36:04.760
thousand dollars um okay fair enough good lord um it couldn't have been written up as various women
00:36:11.880
surely so uh that's interesting that a drug habit is multiple times more expensive than women i never
00:36:20.040
would have thought that i'm not sure should it be that way around i'm surprised it's not been in my
00:36:24.520
i mean surely if you're given the choice between expensive drugs and cheap women or expensive women
00:36:30.760
and cheap drugs these are the deep philosophical questions that you'll be tackling on the podcast
00:36:38.280
um let's have a look at some other stuff so so lots of money on clothes um health um probably getting
00:36:44.360
detoxed by me that's a lot education i i doubt that um adult entertainment 200 grand on porn
00:36:51.240
how does how does one even do that if you want to well that is an awful lot of porn the other stuff
00:36:59.000
and that was that all he was doing 24 7 plus also it's free they're at the atl in his room
00:37:06.440
or smoking crack with hookers apparently it doesn't mean how many i mean i appreciate there's a lot of
00:37:11.800
porn sites i mean despite the fact that it's all free anyway there's a lot of but are there like
00:37:16.760
200 grand a year worth of well it's over three year period but still if you subscribe to all of
00:37:23.480
them that guy was busy i mean i think what we're missing here he's very resilient he's disciplined
00:37:29.720
he's he's committed and i like to see that in a human being he's gone for it i mean yeah two
00:37:35.000
nearly 200 000 you're going to be a degenerate you may as well go all the way it's the gold standard
00:37:39.640
of degeneracy this this is very industrious degeneracy so i will give him that uh there's a
00:37:45.240
a token gesture towards rehab for drugging i'll just send a little 70 70 grand get dad off my back
00:37:51.400
for a week it turns out if you spend less on rehab than the drugs you're buying that probably doesn't
00:37:56.440
work yeah uh yes so um where am i getting all this well it's from his uh laptop that everybody knows at
00:38:05.240
the moment uh there is a what i've seen going through the pictures well indeed there is a 630 page report
00:38:12.760
on the laptop breaking it all down featuring 191 sex crimes 128 drug crimes and what is it 140 um
00:38:22.920
business crimes these are other crimes these were depicted on on the they were all documented on
00:38:28.040
his laptop which he left in that computer sex crimes he was involved in yes well he filmed everything
00:38:34.200
he's like a the world's best investigator in self-incrimination isn't he yes that is just
00:38:40.280
or he would just film himself doing these things and that how sorry to linger on that point what what
00:38:46.600
what qualified them as sex crimes is it because they were prostitutes in states where prostitution is
00:38:50.760
illegal was it non-consensual well there's there's a number of things that you might find in there so
00:38:55.720
um i've had to redact this a little bit but here is here is hunter spending quality time uh with a very
00:39:02.360
young lady um did they did you guys remove my other photo um i don't know oh yeah here we go so
00:39:09.640
here we are quality time with a very young lady now they they made me blur out this image excessively
00:39:16.760
but she has very short arms she has a sort of very childlike face i don't i don't know what the details
00:39:21.400
here are right but it was i mean there's hundreds of pages of this stuff wow yes and he's normally
00:39:28.920
sort of filming himself doing drugs with them as well so so almost definitely with minors
00:39:35.320
well i i don't know or or it's suspected i think yes suspected yeah that uh young lady looks underage
00:39:41.880
yeah that does look like a 14 year old to me but i mean i mean i don't even know if it's his niece or
00:39:46.520
not i mean who knows with this chap um other images that we were on there and and i do wonder if the
00:39:52.440
next image is the mysterious pedo pete that he mentions in his emails but look at that old codger
00:40:00.440
um getting rather friendly with a naked um underage girl that's uh who does that look like i just want
00:40:07.320
to smell your hair man let me sniff come on man let me sniff your skull that is that pedo pete fella
00:40:14.760
that he mysteriously had saved to his contacts isn't it yes that he was yes um so who knows who that
00:40:21.800
this this character was saved in his contacts as pedo pete it was just a family inside joke
00:40:26.440
i remember i see that's what he explained it as in the media i mean that seems like a perfectly
00:40:31.240
ordinary family joke i mean yeah that's rather damning you would call your dad pedo dave
00:40:35.560
didn't you i mean it's just it's just a bit of banter it's a banter it's me and my father
00:40:40.040
it's also worth mentioning ashley biden's diary i don't know whether you mentioned that dan no i
00:40:45.800
haven't no uh yeah she mentioned that she took showers with joe uh at a um 20s much older age
00:40:54.760
well she described how even into her 20s she would have to shower at night once he'd gone to sleep
00:40:59.160
otherwise he'd come and get in with her and that that's he's the uncle or the uh that that is hunt
00:41:05.240
well some some people would say that that guy in the photo there bears a striking resemblance to
00:41:09.960
hunter's father and what would the relationship be with the young man well there's no reason for the
00:41:14.280
the young woman in question would have been his daughter yes oh god yes so you can imagine why
00:41:21.480
um they were a bit keen that this uh laptop did not get discussed um much at all but before before we
00:41:28.120
move on to that let's just remind ourselves what was on the ballot uh when this chap came to office
00:41:34.200
here we are dr jill biden decency is on the ballot wow interesting top comment uh don't scroll down
00:41:42.600
please probably probably best not anyway um youtube will take some some but not too much yes yeah
00:41:48.840
decency is on the ballot and decency is um well i suppose it's questionable as to whether we actually
00:41:54.440
got that or or not um so you as you can imagine they wanted to shut it down here are the 51
00:42:01.640
intelligence agents who swore that the laptop was made up just a wall of liars if it was made up
00:42:09.880
why has he just received a pardon interesting question um you know they went from the laptop
00:42:15.880
isn't real to um he has federal immunity for the crimes documented within it an official uh sorry
00:42:22.040
official signed witness statements that yeah they all they all wrote a letter they're 51 um intelligence
00:42:27.880
agency bosses or former bosses and they all wrote a letter saying that this laptop is just made up
00:42:32.040
it's russian propaganda these are all these are all intelligence agents wow so the corruption ironic name
00:42:36.920
yeah it really is the rot the rot is in deep that's disgusting some quick takeaways from this um
00:42:45.560
democrats have to pay a price for this otherwise it's just one of those things again where we
00:42:51.080
accept that democrats are immune to consequences the reactions uh another takeaway is that there is no
00:42:59.560
such thing as rule of law there is only power its friends and its enemies um if you are a friend then you
00:43:06.680
you don't need to worry about the law basically um and the other thing which is a positive i suppose
00:43:11.880
is that joe biden has taken away the issue of pardons out of the political arena for at least the next
00:43:17.080
four years why is that important well because we've got um j6s who are being kept in conditions like this
00:43:24.840
this particular chap has been kept in conditions like this for four years um and he hasn't even come to
00:43:30.440
trial yet i've spoke to jacob lang um from prison twice at one point he was facing the most charges
00:43:37.960
out of any of them he was saying that the conditions that they were being kept in were horrible in many
00:43:43.080
ways they weren't allowed to see their family and any people that were really allowed to see them for
00:43:47.960
a certain period of time were actually elected officials i think marjorie taylor green and a few others
00:43:52.920
came and actually visited them in prison but it does seem like they've been treated very harshly
00:43:58.920
proportionate to what they actually did themselves but we expected to believe that the us is not a
00:44:03.560
banana republic when its friends get treated the way that hunter has lavished with money hookers drugs
00:44:10.280
and pardons and people who protested against um you know their shenanigans with the last election
00:44:16.760
um gets basically locked away in conditions like this which are utterly utterly inhumane you
00:44:21.960
you wouldn't keep an animal in a condition like that no um so day one trump has to and i will get
00:44:29.640
very agitated if he doesn't do this day one he needs to just pardon all of them he has at least hinted
00:44:35.880
at it so far well he better do more than bloody hint i agree do it on on day one um closing thoughts
00:44:43.240
if he because we talked about how he's pardoned his son and he might need to pardon his um brother
00:44:52.440
how many more criminal democratic criminals are there you know that that's the interesting
00:44:57.560
well keith oberman has answered that question for us um oh you've gone back to the start oh there we
00:45:02.840
go here we are keith keith oberman says uh pardon hunter great now pardon everybody else every
00:45:10.120
prosecutor every biden uh administration staffer every media figure everybody trump will prosecute
00:45:17.000
10 million pardons at least now let's run the numbers on that um 81 million people apparently voted for
00:45:24.440
joe biden keith oberman reckons you need to issue pardons for 10 million of them so basically saying that
00:45:30.920
one in eight democrats is a criminal let's uh let's just sense check that does that sound about
00:45:37.160
right i think that sounds about right too low if anything you think it's more than one in eight
00:45:41.160
well that they're just the criminals involved in the regime what about just the garden variety
00:45:45.320
criminals the people that are let out by the soros da's and people like that um who are just
00:45:51.160
more traditional criminals i i think i think the number is about accurate i i because i mean there
00:45:55.960
must be some democrats who aren't criminals must be a decent number of them but but one in eight
00:45:59.880
i don't know i think that's fair it does it does seem to be uh so for this this particular
00:46:05.880
administration it does seem to have been a highly narcissistic highly psychopathic administration and
00:46:11.240
people who resonate with that they'll resonate with it because it resonates with their core values
00:46:15.800
or lack thereof yes right i better wrap up there um have we got any of those rumble ranty things i
00:46:22.360
need to read on the screen somewhere one oh a couple um oh okay um the engaged few says the
00:46:30.760
treatment of j6 protesters is an eloquent argument for dissolving the dc circuit court uh yeah quite
00:46:36.520
agree uh dragon lady chris says the left torn between these 50 professionals say the hunter biden
00:46:42.200
is fake news why aren't these 50 white people more diverse they must be evil quite possibly um the
00:46:48.840
engaged few says somebody should have told the president that his pardon doesn't extend to
00:46:53.080
crimes committed in other countries so you better hope ukraine doesn't decide to prosecute hunter oh
00:46:58.520
i didn't know that um can you scroll down if there's i think there's two more there uh all right
00:47:05.880
okay um the will pill says you can't be forced to self-incriminate on a government form republicans
00:47:11.080
would have wanted hyder to win the case under the fifth amendment uh possibly um and peter says
00:47:17.320
the scottish um have a saying uh within your house within the abortion clinic exclusion zone would
00:47:23.240
always so be a crime this is most likely to come to england too oh yeah so on the abortion thing
00:47:27.400
yeah praying within your own house yeah yeah you can only pray in your own house
00:47:32.920
we have prayer laws yeah yes oh yeah landed in the wrong effing century yes yes if you pray in a
00:47:40.680
place that's too close to liberals then yeah you get arrested okay yeah good bring on the apocalypse
00:47:47.960
please well give you the next best thing shall i so i have a suspicion that many of your favorite
00:47:54.760
youtubers are a narcissist and i'm aware that we do go on youtube so um i will be addressing that soon
00:48:01.320
enough but i'm very pleased to be with richard grannon here and you have a youtube channel talking all
00:48:07.160
about um narcissism and it's on youtube so i feel like you're uniquely positioned to answer this
00:48:13.240
question and just to go over it very quickly um there is such a thing as narcissistic personality
00:48:19.480
disorder which is a clinical condition um the dsm-5 which is the diagnostic manual um has a bunch of
00:48:27.800
things that you need to um get to be able to get a diagnosis i think it's about at least three of the
00:48:35.000
five no not three five of the following sorry um so having a grandiose sense of self-importance
00:48:40.680
such as such as exaggerating achievements and talents expecting to be recognized as superior
00:48:45.800
even without commensurate achievements preoccupation with fantasies of success power beauty and
00:48:51.000
idealization belief in being special that they can only be understood by or associated with
00:48:56.680
other high status people or institutions demanding excessive admiration sense of entitlement
00:49:02.360
exploitation behaviors lack of empathy envy towards others and a belief that others are envious of
00:49:07.960
them and arrogant haughty behaviors and attitudes that is uh what we've got here so i think another way
00:49:15.960
of of looking at it um would be um the dark triad um which at least looks at sub-clinical um things like
00:49:26.840
narcissism as well as psychopathy and machiavellianism and it looks at some of the things that can be
00:49:31.880
associated with it as well and i quite like approaching it that way um it's first published
00:49:36.760
in 2002 um and the statistical analysis of it that has validated validated is that even a word
00:49:44.360
validated i'm getting tongue-tied at the minute um validated this um measure suggests that there are
00:49:51.880
overlaps between the categories but they are um statistically significant as discrete categories as well
00:49:58.120
but it is predictive of crime it's proved useful in screening for leadership roles it's associated
00:50:03.240
with things like risk taking unethical decision making um and competitive strategies in business
00:50:09.000
when you say it's used for screening for leadership roles do you need to score high on dark triad to get
00:50:14.360
the leadership role or do you need to score low are you a little bit worried about you are not even
00:50:19.720
enough for this role i'm just curious enough i mean it depends how much uh you want to get into
00:50:25.160
politics in politics it's probably helpful in many businesses when you say it's used for scoring i
00:50:30.520
mean what if they do let's say i'm i'm being lined up to take the role of um ceo of a of a medium-sized
00:50:37.800
company and they do one of his test on me am i am i shooting for a high score am i shooting for a low
00:50:42.760
score well the funny thing is that if you're um like middle management or an employee you want a low
00:50:49.000
score but there's some evidence to suggest that if you're a ceo or someone in a senior leadership
00:50:54.840
role you're more likely to be a psychopath but also there is a better case for it being
00:50:59.960
somewhat advantageous i'd still rather people not be a clinical psychopath personally however um
00:51:07.320
it is not as black and white as it might seem okay so if if you're at least that's my opinion you
00:51:12.920
need to hide your power levels for low level positions but once you're going for the top jobs
00:51:16.760
you've got it you've got to perform on the dark triad test that's one way of looking at it yes
00:51:22.840
right but there is also the dark tetrad as well which includes sadism of course deriving pleasure
00:51:27.320
from others suffering and it also complements the big five personality inventory which i know jordan
00:51:32.440
peterson talks about a lot but it basically correlates with low agreeableness and low conscientiousness
00:51:39.160
on this scale because i can i can make i can make a still man case for the dark triad personality traits
00:51:45.480
but sadism that's like that's one of those ones where it's just always a bit difficult to redeem
00:51:49.320
isn't it yeah there's no there's no upside with that so i took the dark triad test and uh my narcissism
00:51:57.160
is very low i'm marginally higher on psychopathy so watch out uh you know be careful what you say
00:52:02.840
it's only 25 percent it's still quite i know but on average i'm actually uh lighter than the average
00:52:07.640
person so so the so the black bar was you and the and the gray bar was the population average so you're
00:52:12.760
well but you're what miles below on narcissism half the level of machiavellianism and average
00:52:18.600
for psychopathy just about yeah slightly above average why are you so low on narcissism do you
00:52:23.640
are you a fan of philosophy or yeah well i i just find um it's a very long convoluted thing but
00:52:31.160
generally speaking i i just find self-confidence really grating do you do a lot of critical thinking
00:52:37.880
like questioning your own thoughts questioning your own ideas you know i i did a masters in
00:52:43.720
research methodology and it sort of teaches you um to doubt your own judgments without the fallacies
00:52:49.800
exactly and you realize how flawed you are um quite quickly because you're butting your head against
00:52:55.080
mathematics basically you can't really deny it yes that's good because you are 26 27 almost 29 i'll
00:53:02.440
take it though thank you the moisturizer is working so in your in your uh generation um i i i would
00:53:08.760
expect it to be quite a bit high that's that's a very very low school oh are millennials less dark triad
00:53:14.520
then um they are well they're higher in trait narcissism right they're much much higher in trait narcissism
00:53:24.120
generally speaking oh because of the bloody phones and the selfies and the right yeah social media yeah
00:53:29.160
sorry um so uh just a question about that actually how how does it fall in terms of age because this
00:53:36.920
might be helpful for our youtuber diagnosis if you will because um i imagine depending on who the
00:53:43.640
youtuber is i imagine most of them will be falling afoul of narcissism but some might be machiavellian and
00:53:49.320
psychopathic as well yeah i mean i i'm not aware of of big uh dips uh and troughs uh and peaks just on
00:53:57.720
age but by generation so we know boomers boomers are quite high in trait narcissism i'm not surprised
00:54:03.800
generally speaking so this there seems to be the the stereotype um view whoever dies with the most toys
00:54:11.000
wins there's a kind of a boomerish a boomerish mindset yeah exactly gen x lower in narcissism but
00:54:17.320
then very high in neuroticism so tending to be a bit negativistic a little bit pessimistic we gave
00:54:24.040
them nirvana and nine inch nails how could we not be yes um and then yeah on to millennials uh again
00:54:30.280
it goes up again in in terms of uh trait narcissism um what was your question sorry um just how it
00:54:36.680
varied by age really yeah yeah so by generations i think we can see we've we've got data on what it
00:54:42.200
does by uh by generations but um i'm gonna quickly read out the definition of narcissism used in the dark
00:54:49.000
triad test so it's an egotistical interest in or admiration of oneself narcissists tend to be
00:54:54.280
excessively preoccupied with themselves and motivated by getting admiration from others
00:54:59.080
and maintaining a grandiose self-image because narcissists are so preoccupied we're getting
00:55:03.400
others to buy into their self-image they may initially seem charming but most narcissists have
00:55:07.800
trouble developing real relationships on account of their difficulty with empathy and lack of interest
00:55:12.520
in others so dan tell us about your results yes well as you can see i come up i come up somewhat higher
00:55:22.200
than josh um i i'm double the population average on on narcissism apparently um and that must be like
00:55:31.080
eight times whatever you got um however i take issue with this test you see because it's not me that's
00:55:37.480
wrong it's the test well no no it genuinely sounds very narcissistic because the test asks questions
00:55:42.680
like do you think you're better than most people yes obviously i i that is but that is not delusion
00:55:49.000
that is not delusion that is objective reality after living for four years in swindon i have concluded
00:55:54.680
that yes i am um so uh so it's one of those things whereby you could actually genuinely be quite
00:56:03.880
successful and it will bump you up even though you might not necessarily be unfounded it is one of
00:56:08.840
the genuine limitations of the test but it's it's it's a false report so let's not make it personal
00:56:13.720
let's not make it about me but you know this is the example i use of richard earlier in our brokonomic
00:56:18.040
if if elon musk were to be asked do you think you're better than most people i mean clearly he is
00:56:23.640
clearly is but that doesn't make him a narcissist yes and i think the difference here between you and
00:56:29.080
i is that i understand how the test works and i think you answered it um at face value and therefore
00:56:36.280
it's given you probably a higher score than you perhaps deserve whereas i i knew what it was
00:56:41.720
actually trying to measure and look at and so i was answering it with that in mind yes i wasn't
00:56:47.160
necessarily trying to answer it to make people look at me favorably i'm fairly certain i'm not a
00:56:51.960
narcissist in fact if anything i've often thought about going to um you know so um you know those
00:56:59.400
classes that you can go to that boost your self-image like self-esteem self-esteem classes
00:57:04.360
yes and this is not because i have low self-esteem i just don't think it's high enough you wanted
00:57:08.600
boosting yes wherever it's at i think you're perfect already dan yes this is true machiavellianism
00:57:14.280
that's all about lying i don't do that though i don't need to well it's not necessarily lying
00:57:17.880
because i think um you know you can be a bit machiavellian it's just about um scheming and
00:57:23.560
planning if you're a good venture capitalist you should be machiavellian oh you need a little bit
00:57:28.360
yeah i mean it is just the end justifying the means i will do what it takes to get the job done
00:57:32.600
kind of a thing that's yes i suppose there's a bit of that yeah and psychopathy i mean i don't think so
00:57:37.320
particularly i mean i get all the standard stuff like you know fantasizing about killing service
00:57:41.720
workers when they're slow and tardy well we all do that i mean i don't get the feeling
00:57:47.720
that you're going to reach over and stab me no i mean i've never actually i've never actually done
00:57:51.560
it we all think about it i mean yes you know having to deal with infrastructure in britain
00:57:57.240
you can't help but think of a tragic accident once in a while so yes but my point being is that
00:58:05.080
everyone has this to some extent right and what i would like to look at really is i'll take it off
00:58:11.560
your results just to make you feel a bit better there we go all right well i'll put it back um but now i'm
00:58:17.240
going to look at some of the behaviors that could manifest from youtubers so richard i imagine that
00:58:24.040
you've probably got a fair few ideas because you talk a lot about narcissism and you've probably
00:58:28.280
given it a whole lot more thought than i have and so i'm interested to see what you might say or even
00:58:33.000
things that you might have noticed yourself i think um youtube as a form of social media
00:58:39.400
um all of our the most popular social media that we have it incentivizes narcissism
00:58:45.000
um you will do better if you behave you will win the game of social media get more follows and more
00:58:51.480
likes as we discussed corporations before it's psychopathic so what is the end result that you're
00:58:56.280
looking for in a corporation it's maximize profit on social media it's maximize likes and follows
00:59:01.960
the more narcissistically and psychopathically you engage in that game the more you will win it's a sort
00:59:07.480
of playground for that kind of thinking really isn't it because it's it's sort of gamified to be as
00:59:12.520
rewarding as possible to someone with that sort of thought pattern and particularly
00:59:16.440
with the sort of meta of youtube at the minute where the thumbnails that do best you have someone
00:59:22.120
making like a face in the thumbnail and the fact that it's their face um in the thumbnail may lead
00:59:28.520
them to think okay well i put myself in the thumbnail i do better but normally it's just any
00:59:33.480
person's face tends to be more clickable it's just anything else yeah exactly for thumbnail thumbnail
00:59:39.400
perception psychology it's literally just a human face with an interesting expression draws the eye
00:59:44.120
the eye darts there quickly to see what's going on because it assumes there's a threat or something to
00:59:48.760
respond to in the environment because another human has gone oh we think something's bad there then
00:59:53.400
they'll read the title if the title is something provocative and clickbaity then then then that is how
00:59:59.000
it works but um yes so should i be putting scary faces in my videos angry afraid yeah they're the best
01:00:09.400
ones actually um i did some research on face perception and the emotion being exhibited captivates
01:00:16.840
the attention of men and women differently so angry faces are more um sort of grab the attention more
01:00:24.040
of men than they do women for example so how do you get women on youtube then sexy face
01:00:31.000
okay so i'm gonna have to a b test this now my brokonomics i said brokonomics angry face one
01:00:36.520
week sexy face seductive face the next week from what i can remember and this is going back
01:00:41.640
quite a few years now it's more to do with um other emotions there's there's less of a definitive
01:00:48.120
emotion whereas men it's just anger because we're right we're quite biologically motivated whereas
01:00:52.600
women are a bit more complicated but i think that things like happiness and sadness particularly
01:00:57.160
might grab the emotion if i remember correctly if they caught if they caught the camera caught
01:01:00.920
you mid-laugh where you're thrown hands being in there in the thing can make a difference but
01:01:06.680
yes you're right the youtuber may think it's their face and so narcissism is not love of the self
01:01:13.720
it's based on ovid's story of narcissus he falls in love with the image of himself so it's a love of
01:01:19.240
your own image it's a love of the false self and i think youtube instagram facebook it massively
01:01:24.600
rewards that because that isn't you it's a performance everybody loves that you also love
01:01:29.720
that you vicariously draw narcissistic supplies through the false self it's never it's never
01:01:34.120
direct so no i think it definitely makes people sicker is this one of those things that it matters
01:01:38.840
when you get get into it so i mean one of the things for our generation gen x is that by the time
01:01:44.600
internet porn came along we're already like our brain was formed yeah but for zoomers it's just
01:01:51.400
been there from day one disastrous so what presumably there's an effect like that for
01:01:57.320
youtubers as well if you're because if you're if you're our age and getting into youtube i mean you
01:02:01.560
kind of know who you are by the time you get onto it but what if you're a zoomer and you get into
01:02:04.920
youtube like from the start yeah they call that um the digital natives don't they so for the digital
01:02:10.120
natives it's much riskier because the brain is wired to the social media at their most neuroplastic
01:02:16.520
where the brain has the most neuroplasticity they've got a device in the hand yes we can approach
01:02:20.920
it cynically we're the last generation that can haha stupid social media how would you take this
01:02:25.720
seriously but for them it was it was melt they're almost like cyborgs it's melded to them before
01:02:30.760
those boundaries were formed you might be able to look at twitter posts and think who cares about
01:02:35.320
some idiot saying this to me but other people of a younger generation that's as
01:02:39.560
real in some respects as somebody walking up to them in the street and saying it and it's also
01:02:44.120
worth mentioning as well the brain remains neuroplastic up until around the age of 25
01:02:50.040
so someone can be well into their 20s before their brains started to solidify as well so yeah people
01:02:57.320
of my generation certainly me um have sort of grown up with this sort of thing and it does shape it
01:03:03.960
although i i remember the days of google videos before youtube was even a thing so uh i don't
01:03:09.720
know i think also particularly um there was a lot less emphasis put on the online world it's sort of
01:03:15.400
a bit taboo like you meet people in real life you know if you live online what's going on whereas
01:03:21.000
it's a lot more acceptable now and that's because it's more normal i think it's gained in gravity hasn't
01:03:25.640
it in many ways so you would have grown up in a time where there's the real world there's real
01:03:29.880
life and then there's a little bit of online now it's mainly what happens online is way more
01:03:34.680
important than what happens in the real world in in certain respects if you're a teenager i remember
01:03:39.080
the phone ringing and it it cut me off of my online game right that's how far back we're going but
01:03:44.840
anyway so so which of those do you want to be a good youtuber narcissism yeah narcissism and i would
01:03:51.720
say second machiavellianism and then third psychopathy might help you at the top levels of you but
01:03:57.160
narcissism if you're if you're if you're narcissistic in a sort of a brain dead non-proactive way all of
01:04:03.640
your dopamine the best dopamine hit you're going to get is from people looking at you for any reason
01:04:09.720
and the algorithms reward just massive amounts of content being pumped out it also rewards you
01:04:15.240
making your private life very very public which i think it's awful but i think that accounts for the
01:04:20.840
explosion and and people doing essentially prostituting themselves and turning themselves into porn stars
01:04:27.160
that the whole movement is towards taking the private and making public the intimate and making
01:04:32.600
it you know a consumable item because um but by sort of my mind the idea of doing a vlog about my daily
01:04:40.200
life makes me feel very uncomfortable it's not that you know i wouldn't mind sharing it necessarily but
01:04:45.240
it's just that it's it's sort of mine and the people i care about so it's not i don't mind discussing
01:04:50.440
ideas consumption not personal stuff yeah it seems like an invasion of your privacy
01:04:56.360
i was told three years ago it was 2021 during the lockdowns and i had an advisor come on board and
01:05:01.320
i paid him he was very very good a little bit expensive and he said if you want your channel
01:05:05.320
to blow up yes you should have the dry descriptions of psychoanalytic theory and how to recover from
01:05:11.080
narcissistic abuse people want to see you wake up in the morning and do your oats and make your coffee
01:05:16.840
and just talk to them about your day and i'm like i that that's to me that makes me feel nauseous
01:05:21.800
that's repellent i don't want them in my house and he was like well let me show you some examples and
01:05:28.120
um for the younger generation in the bodybuilding world there's a guy called sammy sulek who's become
01:05:33.240
very very famous and he will live stream for five or six hours and he just goes to the supermarket he
01:05:38.840
goes to the gym he talks in between sets he talks it's people watch this i think they're very lonely
01:05:45.640
what we're not seeing is such a loneliness epidemic so young like an 18 year old might look at him uh
01:05:52.520
if he's into bodybuilding look at a 23 year old who's doing well and quite happily sit there for
01:05:57.160
four or five hours with him to us that's freak show stuff like i'm not you wouldn't want to be filmed
01:06:04.040
and also you wouldn't watch someone for five hours while they babbled nonsense they're so lonely
01:06:10.280
so isolated yeah i can understand why they might want to do it though because of course
01:06:15.800
what what is the world offering many people these days as well and i'm trying to sort of
01:06:20.680
empathize with with why someone might do that and although since i've been creating videos for
01:06:26.520
youtube it sort of put me off even going on it to be honest yeah but i i can see why you would
01:06:31.400
want to do it because it's it's socialization like that and if you have had enough you can turn
01:06:37.560
it off and the real world isn't like that and if um that's something that particularly gives you
01:06:41.720
anxiety or something like that then that might be very appealing and i can see it so another thing as
01:06:48.040
well um this is something i'm going to hold my hands up and say we're guilty of creating clickbait
01:06:54.040
titles and exaggerated thumbnails to draw attention to you samson's giving us a big thumbs up well that's
01:07:00.360
that's kind of the job though isn't it or i don't do my own thumbnails and titles i let somebody
01:07:04.920
else do that because i'm rubbish at it that's andrew gold's defense i mean he makes great uh
01:07:09.720
thumbnails and great youtube titles but it it's the job that's the we didn't invent the we would
01:07:14.920
have it ranked by i don't know the intellectual um validity or perhaps the number of research papers
01:07:21.320
that is but that's not the metric the metric that they're using is shock or uh righteous indignation
01:07:28.120
rage bait does it make you horny does it make you laugh it's the basest human impulses imaginable
01:07:34.440
we just work here we didn't design the place no i don't normally write my titles for anything
01:07:41.400
because everybody thinks i'm bad at it i'll just type like women or something and that will be my
01:07:45.320
title being bad at that sort of thing and not it not coming naturally to you is in some ways a good
01:07:50.360
thing because it means that you're not you're not necessarily putting on a conscious air you're
01:07:56.440
you're just being authentic like i i always got well what if i get chucked out what if i get chucked
01:08:01.320
out and i have to make youtube videos all by myself you better learn be fine yeah you better learn to
01:08:06.440
hustle it's not just women it would be like women why are they so awful awful in block capital
01:08:11.880
letters exclamation mark have we got time to get into that no it's a bit of attention i'm shutting
01:08:18.600
it down so um another thing that happens um with at least this is my opinion um constantly talking
01:08:27.960
about themselves even in unrelated topics and there are many cases where um you have youtubers whose
01:08:33.800
entire modus operandi is to tell stories about things and and talk about their life and they sort of
01:08:40.120
spin a yarn probably sensationalize it a bit but whenever something comes up that's topical they'll
01:08:46.120
make a video and talk about how they've got experience with it and and this tends to be a more female
01:08:52.360
thing whereby they they tend to pass new information via their own personal experience and try and almost
01:09:00.680
attach themselves to something and you see this a lot with on the on the trending tab of youtube in
01:09:07.640
particular and these videos uh like my kryptonite if i watch about five minutes of it i want to
01:09:14.200
turn it off that's that's the more youtube friendly way and carefully just close the laptop and say no
01:09:19.880
thank you i'm going for a walk put it away so another thing as well is ignoring constructive
01:09:26.120
criticism and responding with hostility and this you see a lot on youtube actually of people seeing
01:09:32.120
some gentle criticism that's actually quite well meaning and quite often it will be a fan suggesting
01:09:37.000
something saying oh you need to sort this out and then they say well you don't know how difficult it
01:09:41.720
is or or something like well you know i'm doing the best i can so you need to you can either watch me
01:09:48.360
or watch elsewhere things like that where they're not necessarily criticizing them in many ways they're
01:09:53.320
trying to help them and it's not it's not the intention is good and it's being perceived as
01:09:59.160
hostility and therefore responded in kind that the one of the it's not one of the diagnostic criteria
01:10:04.760
but i think it should be is hyper competitiveness and hypersensitivity so they're very very prone to
01:10:11.320
see slights and insults where there are none i think it's called ideas of reference so they'll think
01:10:16.920
things are about them they're really not people are just saying i can't see your lighting sucks
01:10:20.440
it's not i'm not saying what you're saying is wrong you're you're this talk on psychology is
01:10:26.200
very i can't see you or i can't hear you it's distracting and they will take that it's because
01:10:32.200
with narcissism it it is predominantly there to stop reality getting in so data does come through but it
01:10:38.840
comes through this this mirror this mirage this waving shield and then it's like a prison that exactly
01:10:45.640
shifts the light doesn't exactly and it's distorted deleted and generalized something that is
01:10:50.280
a perfectly calm sane suggestion is internalized as the greatest insult imaginable narcissistic injury
01:10:57.640
oh i hate being a youtuber i hate doing this nobody appreciates me i used to work with somebody like
01:11:01.480
that we'd be talking about psychology and politics and i i started to realize after the 20th episode
01:11:07.240
after 45 minutes of talking about other people and real world issues it crept back in to how difficult
01:11:13.240
his life was as a youtube influencer and i'm like we've got people watching here who are doing 10 12
01:11:18.200
hour shifts in factories what's what's you know you work three hours a day mate shut up
01:11:25.160
so yeah it's it that's that's the that's the maladaptive side of of narcissism as far as youtube
01:11:30.920
because i did say before the more narcissistic you are the more you the better it will be for you on
01:11:36.120
youtube up to a point once you've gone past that point there's diminishing returns is that point past 71
01:11:41.400
percent you are right on the edge sir right okay right spot how do you school on this uh i
01:11:48.680
haven't done the dark tire test i did the uh d-factor test and i was like it was i was a weird mix so i
01:11:54.280
was quite high in conscientiousness and being open with people and then i was like extraordinarily vengeful
01:11:59.560
and sadistic i was like gandhi meets patrick bateman or something it was very odd very very odd i should
01:12:05.960
i should do it again and i should do i will do this for people surprising the sort of quirks that you
01:12:10.360
you have because i i tend to be quite laid back about things but once someone crosses me yeah i'm out
01:12:17.880
for blood then they must suffer exactly try the d-factor test as well so i'll do this dark triad test
01:12:23.480
and then people are interested it's free as well d it's just d-factor and it's a d for dark uh dark
01:12:29.160
traits and they measure not just these three or the four from the tetrad i think they have 11 or 12
01:12:34.760
dark factor traits they measure it's it's interesting it's good to know so um i i'm
01:12:39.320
aware that this has gone on for a little while so i'll just do a couple more so pretending to show
01:12:43.720
vulnerability or hardship to elicit sympathy and support and this is another one particularly
01:12:49.400
with youtuber apology videos you see quite a lot it's just like oh i'm going through such a tough
01:12:55.480
time and they're drying their eyes on their you know thousand dollar bills in their great big house
01:13:01.240
that's you know one room is bigger than some people's flats and you know you know sorry i'm
01:13:06.840
not defending them at all but in terms of this issue of audience capture like why do we have to do
01:13:11.320
clickbait titles and clickbait thumbnails i released uh emails maybe i'll do it once every two weeks and
01:13:17.480
once i i put the incorrect information in an email so two hours later i sent out an email that the subject
01:13:23.720
thought was just sorry and where i would normally get a 30 open rate that was like shot up to 70 and
01:13:31.080
i was thinking why are you opening an email that just says sorry i think they're expecting an
01:13:35.160
apology video so it's these are videos that when people release oh i'm sad i'm sorry people love it
01:13:42.440
i don't know what i don't know what they're getting from it they want to see the youtuber contrite
01:13:46.840
apologizing for their sins it's like some weird religious i think people generally this is my
01:13:52.440
understanding of it at least people generally feel like there are a lot of wrongs in the world and
01:13:56.520
seeing people publicly apologize for things even if they've not necessarily done anything wrong
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gives people a sense of catharsis like there's something being done to counter the balance that's
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just my own guess it's going on good theory i like it i like it so um another one as well blocking or
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deleting comments that challenge their authority or image this i have seen many people accused of that
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and um also engaging in unnecessary feuds to maintain relevance that's the final one i wanted
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to end on because this does go on quite a lot and you see it all the time where people are clashing
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and it it rarely goes well for people it's a very high risk strategy to do that to start feuds with
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people and be unreasonable and publicly rude about someone who shares the sphere and you probably have
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a fair amount in common with a lot of the time typically because of the narcissism of small
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differences there'll be more aggression shown to people who are more like us than to people who
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are less like us because they occupy the same niche and so you're competing basically for resources
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and so hopefully we've given you a bit of a toolkit to refine your youtuber diet i imagine many of you
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watching lotus eaters probably don't watch many of the worst offenders of this but it's they're not
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on makeup tutorials afterwards you know we're not so bad um no we're obviously guilty of some of
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them aren't we um and i think that part of being responsible don't shake your head samson we're
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part of being responsible when you you have a media company when you have a presence i think
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is just being upfront about how you feel and being honest and and not presenting yourself with any sort
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of um you're not putting up a false persona i think that's actually very important and should be
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something that's encouraged and will obviously create a more healthy society and that's what i would
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like to see right um do you want to read a couple of the uh the rumble rants we've got quite a few
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so you can't do them all but sure um bobobad says i can't say i'm surprised that youtubers and twitch
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streamers have narcissistic tendencies it was very manifest with the machiavelli chapter in the prince
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about tricking um alt right men into intercourse what i don't remember that in the prince
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uh davy verse huh in the prince yeah i don't think that's the game she's thinking of isn't it
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i don't know um uh davy verse says uh where this dark tried test i want to get um pass go and collect
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two hundred dollars uh i think there's a website called idr labs which um has a psychologically robust
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one that's available um wellesley says biden announced the next uh round of pardons will
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double as christmas greeting cards to save time that's quite good well done um the engaged few
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says uh the treatment of gen six protesters is an eloquent argument for dissolving oh we've read
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that one actually so we're all good let's see what mr cooper has to say
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not a lot because he's muted youtube channel mike with the mike five take it away man amen okay my
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wife and myself are out on the street six days a week every week for the last year church on sunday
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and in that time god by his spirit has done amazing things over 10 000 people have committed their heart
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to jesus isn't that a beautiful thing absolutely do it all the time in jesus name well check it out
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mike with the mike five on youtube thank you for that mr cooper got any more or um oh yes should do
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oh that looks nice hello lotus eaters it is a beautiful friday morning here in western washington
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and i decided with my bank giving gratitude that i would upgrade to a gold tier subscription i remember
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you guys saying that you enjoy more wholesome kind of non-political content so i thought i might
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i might share some panoramic shots from my friday morning hike this morning thank you very much for
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everything you do and god bless that's a nice morning it looks lovely yeah i'm very jealous i i've been
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re-watching twin peaks for the millionth time and it makes me want to go to washington so badly because
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it looks lovely around the state yes not dc goodness no
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we've had a succession of governments that have created this situation it dates back to the time of
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tony blair with iraq but you're talking about the fact that the infrastructure we have inside the uk
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from the nhs doctors dentists whatever we're on our uppers this country literally it's going downhill
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on a long-term basis we cannot afford to continue providing this level of care
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very true thank you it's funny he said he met the the local reform people there are a few years
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behind us but good people it's funny because beau and you have expressed similar sentiment that they
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their hearts are in the right place they're just perhaps getting there slowly yeah yeah being on social
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media after the election has made me wonder has anyone else noticed that the political left
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just seemed to come up with phrases out of nowhere and then all start using them in lockstep and then
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just stop using them at some point in the future and just never reflect to realize they were wrong
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really makes me wonder what's going on over there
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yes i think it's just to do with the amount of conformism in the current american left in that
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that they'll hear something and immediately adopt it because it's come from their side they're in
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group and then it sort of becomes part of their identity because their politics are their identity
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because of course identity politics i think that they're very vulnerable to ideological very vulnerable
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to ideological infection aren't they it seems to be and you said because of the conformity but they're
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not big on critical thinking they're not big on philosophy they're big on just accepting what
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they're giving and spewing it back out they're like little meme vessels all right let's see what
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alex has to say hey hello cedars after a year of being an offline i am returning uh both to x as men
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are ghosting uh handle here and men are speaking my old channel on youtube i'll be making content again
01:20:28.840
soon talking about marriage culture technology and the like but check us out this is my reverse osmosis
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water filter system my three inlet filters and remineralizer which actually fuel my automatically
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refilling pitcher inside of my refrigerator and ice maker so proper prep and stay clean
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he has taken that so much further well done sir well done right to the comments yes um
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i'm sure i'm sure we can run a couple of minutes over if we need to um annie moss says really enjoyed the
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guest richard grennan he is a great guest and not just for the biden impression which is spot on you
01:21:05.240
do a biden impression sure man let me sniff your kids come on man very good um last petter simon
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son says question for richard grennan how common is it that people with certain personality disorders
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try to hide it by emphasizing how bad other personality disorders are uh
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uh what well they they do but they don't oh it's here uh they usually just stay with narcissism it's
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not like the people who do this if they're doing it as a narcissistic defense i think it's called
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darvo so it's deny and then reverse victim and offender they're not going to go in and read
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about borderline personality disorder or psychopathy they're just going to say i'm not a narcissist
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you're a narcissist and that word narcissist has now been thrown around so much that it's essentially
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become a slur so yes they're likely to do it but if they turn around and say oh you have
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skitside personality disorder i'd be very impressed they won't they just say you're a narcissist which
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in modern parlance nowadays means literally anybody or anything that causes any kind of disappointment
01:22:10.520
massively overused term but the answer to your question is years um annie moss says i am very
01:22:15.480
sorry to see that dan has returned to his previously poor wardrobe choices uh dan you showed such promise
01:22:20.920
last week shame to see you drop your standards again and alex ogle says carl's not around so
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dan thinks he can relume his slovenly ways disgraceful exclamation mark now let me point out here
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that i am not slovenly dressed i am actually particularly well dressed i just don't feel
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the need to wear a tie ties are for waiters and people who on the sell side i was on the buy side
01:22:40.440
buy side people don't wear ties right and carl doesn't even carl doesn't wear a tie unless he's
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just about to go on the podcast and then he takes it off so i shall have none of that sir and and
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madam we're gonna be moving on i don't know why you're getting all this i'm dressed like a stage
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hypnotist um do you want to do a couple of your segment josh sure um interesting name here topical
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for youtubers as well destiny's loves of sausage um in a way wanting to be a politician should be a sign
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of potential psychopathy um they are the least qualified of us to be in charge i agree with my
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desire to be a politician is up there to be you know with my desire to be a human sacrifice basically
01:23:23.800
zero um carl's underground cache of irradiated fray bentos says a key issue with representative
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democracy is that those who desire power are also those who should have it least to quote frank herbert
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is not that power corrupts but that power is a magnet to the corruptible this is a good argument
01:23:43.720
for selecting representatives by random lottery a random man off the street is less likely to be
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a psychopath than someone self-selecting to have their power of life and death over others
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i mean my answer to this would be that government has a lot less power um if they can mess with your
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lives less the stakes are much lower um but of course it's still important to have people in charge
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that are trustworthy omar awad says the proclivity for humans to follow authority a narcissist to seek
01:24:13.080
power makes for an awful symbiosis still it's nice to have a bit of science to back up instinctual
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assumptions and that is true that a lot of these things are instinctually programmed into people
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as in the understandings themselves of this sort of thing there's a good sort of colloquial pop
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psychology understanding of these things without having to dig into the weeds of the actual psychology
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necessarily because you know everyone is a psychologist it's just that some people um
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you know go for it as a profession because you have to be to be a human being and so that's why i
01:24:45.320
try and avoid being a massive credentialist is that you know as long as you have experience being a human
01:24:51.240
being you're qualified to talk about psychology so should we go to some of your comments yes uh george
01:24:58.760
hap says to give joe biden some credit at least he's using the president presidential pardon to
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help his allies trump wasted them on some thugs rather than to save the jan six process uh protestors
01:25:08.200
or assange and snowden uh yes good point that is indeed exactly what happened um
01:25:15.000
blah blah blah blah um baron and warhawk says do you know would it be funny if trump pardoned alex jones
01:25:21.320
it's a civil case not a federal case i don't think he has that option um andrew narrow says cash
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isn't only for drugs but also for trying to make transactions untraceable so that's actually so
01:25:32.840
maybe he paid some of the women with cash yeah yes that's quite possible isn't it how did they
01:25:39.560
know when they were going through though that's that money it said it said sorry various women
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it's a very how did they know because it was a bank transfer with a woman's name
01:25:48.200
it was bank tray his bank he was bank card machines
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but but yes i mean presumably not all hookers take bank transfers none of mine do what
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have you asked i should be far more convenient they presumably don't have one of those little
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things that you plug into your phone that fast food shops use where you can just tap the card
01:26:10.120
that's what i was wondering it said various women i was thinking how is that traceable so it must be
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that he's literally bank transferred oh yeah if you if you if you read the report that i linked you can
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see the the the actual names and it was yeah he he sets them up on a bank account so that he can
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then so fast pay them without joking his appetite for prostitution over those yes was enormous
01:26:34.360
and and yes and porn that's i wonder yes i wonder what's going on with that hypersexual now this is
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going on youtube i can i can drop this bombshell that the reason that he took so many pictures of his
01:26:45.320
penis according to hunter biden is that he has body dysphoria about his nine inch penis just just
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going to throw that out and leave that there is that something he said yes
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i just found that interesting but we have the photos
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all right okay um i i will stop there then and let you do a couple from the last one
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sure um dr david ferugia says next week dan will be experimenting with facial emoting sexy face for
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the thai ladies and angry face for the thai lady boys nice i'll give it a try i mean let's see if it
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works uh matt d says i've been really interested in narcissism ever since i realized that i used to be
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married to an emotionally abusive narcissist thanks for your insight it's generally very interesting
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fitting all this into my own experience it all fits together like a jigsaw when you explain it
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that's good and i'm sorry to hear that's happened to you and at least you're coming to an understanding
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on it that's a very positive thing and finally uh the proletariat says uh the chart confirms josh is
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your average psycho good to know so watch out that's right that's not in the comment that's my own words
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excellent well uh thank you for joining us uh for turning up thank you for super chatting and
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commenting and subscribing and all that kind of stuff thank you for for josh for two excellent
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segments thank you for richard for coming along and uh check out his socials and stuff cheers