The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1055

00:00:00.000 hello and welcome to podcast of the lotus eaters episode 1055 it is the 3rd of december 2024

00:00:16.520 today we are going to be discussing the way in which politicians behave like psychopaths

00:00:22.240 then we take a quick break from the dark triad stuff to talk about hunter biden and then we're

00:00:28.320 going to talk about our youtubers narcissists which will be very interesting i'm joined as ever by the

00:00:34.960 long-suffering josh hello there that is correct i have been long-suffering the youtube psychologist

00:00:41.360 richard grannon hello thank you much requested we've got you here thank you very much having me

00:00:45.180 on gentlemen tell the audience a little bit about yourself and we've got your socials up on the

00:00:49.320 screen now oh that's very good of you um so my my background was i did a degree in psychology and

00:00:54.380 messed around for 10 years being a nightclub doorman and then i started teaching self-defense

00:00:58.880 and then i went from self-defense physical self-defense into psychological self-defense

00:01:03.680 which led me to talk about childhood trauma ptsd and narcissism and i've been doing that now for

00:01:08.420 12 years just the man we need for this particular also long-suffering

00:01:11.960 and um we have just recorded an excellent brokonomics which will be out next week so

00:01:17.960 that was really good fun yeah i enjoyed that um a couple of quick announcements the last podcast i was

00:01:23.380 on i recommended getting a water distiller when we were talking about fluoride which you should do

00:01:28.380 but it demineralizes the water so if you did do that you need to add back 87 minerals back into

00:01:35.820 your water and they're all found in pink salt so just get a you know himalayan pink salt or a

00:01:41.420 lancashire pink salt grate a little bit of that into your water and you're fine anyway covered all of

00:01:45.680 that uh should we talk about how politicians behave like psychopaths of course so i think there's

00:01:53.100 a self-selection pressure for people who are higher in psychopathy to choose to seek powers of 0.57

00:01:58.980 position and because they they are seeking these positions of power and they are psychopathically

00:02:05.100 inclined they're also better at getting those positions and i've talked about this before actually

00:02:10.900 um in one of the episodes of my show i talked about how they try and manipulate people and i thought

00:02:16.580 it'd be interesting to go over it with you richard because of course um you've touched on this on

00:02:21.420 your youtube channel and so i wanted to put forward my sorts of understanding and the the idea of

00:02:27.560 today is we're going to go through um various kinds of behaviors that psychopaths exhibit and try and

00:02:33.180 map them on to politics and see um so i've i've got some examples i'm sure we can come up with plenty

00:02:39.960 particularly in times like these and so i may as well get on with it so it's worth mentioning as

00:02:45.700 well that um oh i should have another link there by the way samson um but psychopathy is something

00:02:52.680 that is neurologically rooted it seems to be something that people are born into having and so there is

00:02:59.900 a physiological basis and i'm going to talk about some of the brain areas ever so briefly to illustrate

00:03:05.580 that because we can observe neuroscientifically um some of the things um that um are the root cause

00:03:13.180 of why they have these behaviors in the first place so there's an area of the brain called the

00:03:18.620 ventromedial prefrontal cortex so ventral means just lower and the prefrontal cortex is this part

00:03:24.780 in your forehead um which is involved in decision making which is my specialization and emotional

00:03:30.340 regulation and moral judgment and there's reduced activity in psychopaths in that area and then there's

00:03:35.780 also the dorsolateral prefrontal cortex which is the other end of it um which is involved in things

00:03:41.900 like executive function which determines where your attention is focused and includes things like

00:03:46.380 working memory um your cognitive control and also your inhibitions to inappropriate responses so your

00:03:53.360 ability to control responding inappropriately to things and so that's obviously very pertinent and

00:04:00.800 then you have the amygdala which is a part of the brain many people are familiar with um there's

00:04:05.080 under reduced activity there as well and this obviously has a role in processing emotions and

00:04:09.720 especially fear because of course people know it being the part of the brain that is involved in

00:04:13.960 the fight or flight response as well as empathy and then finally um there are more areas but this is

00:04:20.040 the last one i'm talking about the anterior cingulate cortex this is quite important in um decision making

00:04:26.280 as well i've done a little bit of work on it um in the neuroscience of decision making but this is

00:04:31.500 involved in emotional regulation conflict monitoring and empathy and of course empathy is one of the more

00:04:37.240 obvious ones there but the point being is that it's not just there's a part of the brain where

00:04:42.620 you know you have that specific physiology and then you're a psychopath there's a broad network and

00:04:49.660 all of these different brain areas vary it might be the case that in certain people who exhibit

00:04:54.860 psychopathic traits there might be one of the brain areas that has normal function or sort of

00:05:00.040 acceptable level function but it does very much have a physical basis and it seems to be

00:05:04.760 a very real thing even though people use it in a quite colloquial sense so hang on hang on just

00:05:10.100 just to dumb it down from my level so you're saying that you know some people might be born with a big

00:05:14.120 nose for example and some people are born with a big a big rostral ventral psychopathy bit

00:05:21.400 have i have i got that more or less right i couldn't have had a better myself

00:05:25.580 but that that's that's largely what we're going with yeah um but it's something that you're born

00:05:32.960 with and you can observe it and in many ways you could measure people's brains and find out whether

00:05:38.760 they are inclined to being a psychopath okay but everybody's got a nose even if it's just not

00:05:43.120 particularly big so so presumably everybody's got at least a bit of psychopathy yeah it's one of those

00:05:47.980 things where there's a variation there's a sort of uh a sliding scale as to how much you resemble it

00:05:53.940 right it's not because of course it is dealing with um the amount of activity in the brain but

00:06:00.980 let's look at some aspects of psychopathic behavior um and try and apply them to politicians because i think

00:06:09.700 that there are definitely lots of notable examples and it's actually quite a powerful way of explaining

00:06:15.440 all the ways in which they're wronging the population and the first of which is isolation

00:06:20.080 and this is a classic psychopathic tendency to make someone feel isolated from people who might

00:06:26.100 otherwise support them so they are more easily manipulated and this can apply to politics in a

00:06:32.220 number of different ways and think of a few straight off the top of my head exactly yeah sure go ahead

00:06:37.620 well trying to close down pubs um the whole covid thing um you know all that sort of stuff they can

00:06:44.580 also do it in a more abstract way as well in that they say concerns around mass immigration are racist

00:06:49.580 racism obviously very taboo in mainstream western society so people don't want to talk about

00:06:55.160 immigration they would rather talk about less controversial things and therefore they feel

00:07:00.200 more abnormal than they really are and this helps control how people view things and as you can see

00:07:05.700 um the majority of the country here almost all of it are in favor of tighter controls on migration

00:07:12.940 however um this isn't necessarily reflected in how willing um the media and the political

00:07:20.640 establishment are in addressing this issue and talking about it and this seems to me to be one

00:07:26.260 of those things what what do you think richard um it's it's really interesting i uh just to go back

00:07:32.640 um the we we said in the interview did in economics part the the difference between psychopathy and

00:07:38.660 narcissism as far as the genetic component is there seems to be a stronger case for a strong genetic

00:07:44.120 component in psychopathy the thing with the brains um i know that there is a little bit of a internal

00:07:51.680 conflict in academia where we have the correlation and causation fallacy so we're not sure or if they

00:07:58.800 are not sure whether people are born that way or if through the lack of usage of the brain

00:08:05.560 um we might be seeing less activity in certain areas um but overall the consensus seems to be that

00:08:12.540 that it is that it is genetic i think that my general position on that is that there's a

00:08:16.900 bi-directional relationship because you can say that there's a genetic component but there's also

00:08:20.840 such a thing known as epigenetics whereby your environment selects which genes are expressed

00:08:25.680 and therefore your your environment is not irrelevant even if you're taking a purely genetic standpoint

00:08:31.600 which you can't these days can you know like it's it's it's it's kind of it's it's gotten out of

00:08:35.920 date that argument the uh the other thing i wanted to say is with with psychopathy obviously these

00:08:41.420 things are just models we don't have like a blood test for it but as a model of behavior largely

00:08:46.540 speaking psychopathy uh comes as an american uh construct and it's constructed around the american

00:08:52.260 american penal system and so just to help people think about it when we're looking at the statistics

00:08:59.060 they correlate around criminals people who you would find in prison so they are law breakers and

00:09:05.080 they tend to get caught our politicians i think are highly psychopathic but their coma as you know

00:09:12.740 a psychopathy is highly comorbid so one of the comorbidities is narcissism but there's a particular

00:09:17.820 type of narcissism there's communal narcissism and there's pro-social narcissism so they will hide

00:09:24.140 their narcissist narcissistic psychopathy is nasty psychopaths you can negotiate with i worked in 0.96

00:09:29.500 the security industry for 10 years i worked for gangsters and criminals you follow their rules you 0.98

00:09:33.840 do what they say they're satiated if it's psychopathic narcissism they're never satiated and they'll hide

00:09:40.660 behind a rhetoric of being for the community for um social issues for social justice but that is just a

00:09:49.780 cover for their machiavellian plans the other way for just for people watching to think about

00:09:54.620 psychopathy highly criminal very low impulse control extremely goal orientated to steal manual

00:10:00.540 position and to add to it a little bit it's probably going to be the case not just that

00:10:04.860 they're self-selecting in the power structures but the higher up the power structure you go

00:10:09.480 in order to withstand the pressure at that altitude they will be more aggressively narcissistic

00:10:15.320 and more aggressively psychopathic because they're then competing not with us they're competing with

00:10:21.480 the narcissistic psychopaths and the consequence of the fall the higher you go is worse and worse and

00:10:27.320 worse so i i just wanted to add that add that in there is also um a problem with the the sort of

00:10:33.560 psychological understanding of psychopaths and you rightly identified it is that a lot of it is rooted in

00:10:38.760 the justice system and it may miss some of the um aspects of it that might otherwise go undetected

00:10:46.040 because people can be psychopaths and not come into contact with the justice system yeah or they

00:10:49.960 could be self-aware and and actually make effort to try and mitigate their disposition like me yeah

00:10:54.920 yeah really that was a long silence they both just looked at me and oh no i know i know i know

00:11:00.760 because i always wonder about that because if if if you have sort of psycho uh psychopathic things

00:11:10.840 going on in your head i've always wondered to what extent that's just maleness opposed to just

00:11:17.000 maleness yes you're coming out as a feminist now no no no no i'm just toxic masculinity i'm just saying 1.00

00:11:22.600 when when psychopathic i mean when somebody slightly irritates you and you get a lot of psychopathic

00:11:26.920 thoughts in your head but you don't act on them i always wonder if is is that normal for all men

00:11:32.280 or i would say so yeah for and for all for all humans so when we're looking at these diagnostic

00:11:38.840 criteria and we're looking at the models that like we said in in the earlier interview it's all culture

00:11:43.000 bound we can't say that there isn't gender prejudice here from male clinicians and female clinicians

00:11:47.960 against men and against women we all it's like an internalized gendered or sexist view that that we all

00:11:54.520 have so we assume that's problematic like like an aggressive impulse in a civilized society is

00:12:01.960 problematic but if we go back to war we'll all happily i i would my position on it is even nice

00:12:08.440 people will become psychopaths inside of three or four days of frontline combat as a survival response

00:12:13.480 your empathy is going to go down your impulse control is going to go down it's adaptive if you're

00:12:18.520 if you're in the trenches it's an adaptive response it's a positive response i don't want 0.74

00:12:22.920 you wringing your hands over the deaths of people i want you to see the enemy and kill them without 0.97

00:12:27.800 thought didn't they do that with the nazis they gave them they gave them some sort of drug 0.97

00:12:33.080 meth i believe it was called yeah we could be that one um america has been running that experiment quite

00:12:40.040 uh but it had but it had but didn't it have the effect of making it easier to see people that you

00:12:48.360 were fighting as people you hated or something like that i i think that was the intended effect

00:12:53.640 i have not really looked into it too much yes because i i don't think giving soldiers meth is

00:12:59.000 a good idea um they've got some drawbacks i've heard that they said some of the officers notes were

00:13:04.760 like oh it's very good and the men's morale is very high but the next day it seems to be quite low

00:13:09.560 until we give them more i mean they're all like nazi methods at that point yes um but yeah you would i

00:13:14.680 i guess if you were if you if you'd not slept for a few days or you're on very very limited sleep

00:13:21.000 and you've been high on a strong stimulant then yeah you wouldn't see people as you wouldn't be

00:13:26.040 like oh this wonderful part where are you from you wouldn't patients shorten a lot yeah to be a nice

00:13:32.840 person you've got to be well rested well fed and comfortable really those are the conditions to be

00:13:39.000 yes that makes sense empathetic really so another behavior that i um is true of psychopaths and i've

00:13:45.720 observed in politicians is that of coercive control and i think this one's going to be pretty easy to

00:13:50.360 talk about where it's behaviors that deprive a person of their independence and can make them feel

00:13:54.840 isolated and my example here is the welfare state itself it's basically a covert means of influencing

00:14:01.480 people it purports to help people but as economists like thomas soul layout it robs them of their

00:14:07.080 independence and in many ways it creates a situation of what is known as learned helplessness

00:14:12.520 in that it deprives people of their agency to help themselves as well as breaking up the family unit as

00:14:17.720 well um because they're less dependent on their family for income and therefore um you know you get

00:14:24.600 this epidemic of single mothers that we so now now we're coming back into something i understand so

00:14:28.920 that's the economic side of things so it used to be the case for all of human history and everywhere

00:14:33.640 outside of the west that you have basically a large family group you know multi-generational

00:14:40.520 families living together and in the western world in the last few decades instead what we have is a

00:14:47.560 massive welfare system but what it does is it separates you out from your family because you

00:14:52.920 want to go and get your own flat and your own set of benefits and all the rest of it yeah that sounds

00:14:58.600 about right to me statism would that kind of authoritarian statism where people become very

00:15:04.440 very dependent on the state would breed the echo of narcissism it would breed codependence it would

00:15:11.320 breed people who are very um ideologically and psychologically submissive in fact they would 0.99

00:15:17.880 start to see submission and obedience as a virtue and that would be one one effect yes welfare state

00:15:23.080 it would be terrible if that actually happened wouldn't it it would be like a dystopia

00:15:30.200 if only we lived in a world like that hey the other thing with coercive control that i thought

00:15:34.040 of was uh the lockdowns so coercive control i could scream and yell at you to frighten you into doing

00:15:41.080 what it is that i want you to do but that's quite a high calorie burn that's a lot of effort if i can

00:15:46.200 subtly guilt you and shame you that's much more effective it's much it's a much higher much better

00:15:53.160 leverage over your emotions and your behavior so governments use psychological manipulation rather

00:15:58.120 than force not because they have any particular compunction against the force it's just easier it's

00:16:03.160 cheaper it's more effective remember that they have that behavioral insights team and they they

00:16:08.120 actively fund um behavioral psychology and decision making and i i know this very well i've done lots

00:16:14.040 of deep dives into the government stuff and i know the research inside out who was the the reaction

00:16:17.960 to the response team and there was 12 people on the nudge unit was it the nudge unit and it was

00:16:22.280 something like eight of the 12 of the response to the pan can i say yeah illness to the virus

00:16:29.080 uh was they were psychologists and i was thinking what where's your epidemiologist as your virologist

00:16:36.200 that was the um yeah there was another there was that wasn't the nudge unit there was another

00:16:39.880 steering group that sat above it making the decisions wasn't it the it was above it

00:16:43.800 you're on about sage are you was it sage it might have been no there was another steering

00:16:47.960 i can't remember what it's called now but yeah it didn't primary response wasn't it yes the prime

00:16:51.560 but they didn't have any any epidemiologists on it or anyone with a with a relevant medical

00:16:57.320 background it was all psychologists psychologists so they're there so what what we de facto know

00:17:02.440 through their actions not their words which is how people should rate the behavior of abusers what

00:17:06.280 are they doing not what are they said what are they saying their response was absolutely explicitly

00:17:12.840 psychological manipulation that is how we will handle this we can't force people to do it

00:17:17.320 but if we can trick them into spying on each other into guilting and shaming and humiliating people

00:17:22.040 then we have the coercive control we're looking so if we had a narcissistic mother who was treating her 1.00

00:17:28.760 children like that yes that that would safely qualify as a narcissist uh and that is what the government

00:17:35.720 is doing they would they would possibly if if the reason she was doing that was that she feared that 0.97

00:17:40.840 her children would individuate into adulthood sorry to add another layer of complexity but it's

00:17:45.640 probably more correct she would be classed as a borderline or a vulnerable fragile narcissist

00:17:51.080 so the borderline has abandonment terror i believe our government has abandonment terror

00:17:54.600 and when we saw it during the uh lockdowns so the behavior was more like that of a borderline

00:17:59.960 every time you try to look at sweden they just said act like adults if you're fit and healthy

00:18:05.160 go out but don't sneeze on each other don't drink each other's spit on the bus

00:18:09.000 basic things there's all nice people should do quite difficult these days quite difficult

00:18:12.680 and if you're sick stay home and don't enter that's what sweden did and it worked quite well

00:18:17.320 every time we showed any sort of agency adulthood or sovereignty it was chopped off at the knees

00:18:21.960 that's a borderline strategy and and what do you call it when the the narcissism that government 0.64

00:18:26.280 displayed in response to the southport riots which was to immediately call you names and try and shut

00:18:30.600 you down i i felt that was uh probably on the fragile narcissism spectrum i mean the guy who was in charge

00:18:37.080 of it um is is a clearly a fragile narcissist that was very heavy-handed which is compensatory so he

00:18:44.440 was i think full of fear and full of genuine contempt he hates he loads white working class people he 0.83

00:18:52.200 loads the british white working class but he kind of forgot to dress it up a bit oh no he was very

00:18:57.800 very low impulse control so there we see fragile narcissism a little bit of psychopathy i think he did

00:19:03.160 all of that in a non-stop narcissistic rage so if there's a narcissistic injury you dare to challenge

00:19:09.960 my authority as your rightful king punish these peasants that was why there was fast tracking that

00:19:15.320 was why there was releasing of real criminals from prisons because he was in a non-stop what we would

00:19:20.120 call an emotional flashback um a non-stop for two weeks absolute narcissistic rage driven by fear

00:19:26.280 driven by disgust and his response was outrageously disproportionate it was violent legally can you

00:19:32.600 say legally violent the way in which he applied the law was was excessive and violent so um let's

00:19:38.440 talk about something that would definitely never happen i've got for you a couple of videos let's

00:19:43.480 just go into the first one of uh joe biden explaining something that he would certainly never do

00:19:48.520 question regarding the family i'm extremely proud of my son hunter he has overcome an addiction he is

00:19:57.320 he's one of the brightest most decent men i know and i am satisfied that i'm not going to do anything

00:20:05.000 i said i said i'd abide by the jury decision i will do that and i will not pardon him all right then we

00:20:11.640 got the next one ask you will you accept the jury's outcome their verdict no matter what it is yes and

00:20:20.600 have you ruled out a pardon for your son yes right and then of course we got his press secretary making

00:20:27.000 it abundantly clear will the president pardon or commute his son uh if he's convicted so i've answered

00:20:33.240 this question before it was asked of me not too long ago a couple of weeks ago and i was very clear and

00:20:37.800 i said no okay let's go back to the first question of the briefing i know you said anyway then she

00:20:42.760 changes outfit about nine or six times and basically says the same thing over and over again now the

00:20:48.360 fascinating thing about this is that the um the corporate media actually believed it now this is

00:20:53.640 quite a long video as you can imagine because there's quite a lot of believing going on with the

00:20:57.160 corporate media but it is worth playing just a little bit of this to see how much they they were

00:21:01.560 completely synced into it yeah let's play uh there we go presidential promise to put the law

00:21:09.240 before a family i said i abide by the jury decision i will do that and i will not pardon him letting the

00:21:15.480 world know that he will not wipe away the decision of 12 of his son's peers was asked directly and he

00:21:20.040 has said he wouldn't pardon um his son if he gets convicted let's wait and see what happens if he loses

00:21:23.960 yeah but i mean but he said it he's gonna get pardoned by his dad there's no question about that the

00:21:26.920 president has ruled out pardoning his son major commitment from the president accepting the outcome of the

00:21:31.320 trial and also pledging not to pardon his son so the challenge for him is really to continue to

00:21:34.840 live up to his values when it was really personal and he did that today it seems like a pretty

00:21:38.120 normal straightforward answer but it it takes new weight when we see what trump is saying of the

00:21:41.720 outcome of his trial we're hearing by the republicans who say they don't accept the jury's verdict here

00:21:44.680 in new york the contrast is profound to sit there and say well i'm not going to intervene in the legal

00:21:47.560 process and i wouldn't pardon my son one side democrats and joe biden protecting the justice system

00:21:52.520 and on the other republicans and trump protecting our current president of the united states

00:21:56.280 has so much respect for the law that he has said he would not pardon his son

00:21:59.720 i mean what you know again it's all about the contrast president biden saying i will respect

00:22:04.200 whatever this jury decides versus donald trump after he was convicted on 34 counts in the entire

00:22:07.800 system but if you speed them up apparently it does well yeah you kind of have to do so much i mean

00:22:12.120 i'll stop it there there's loads more of that uh but there you go as you can see under no

00:22:16.280 circumstances is going to joe biden going to um pardon his son uh breaking news joe biden's pardoned his

00:22:22.600 son so um this is the statement that um came out where uh basically he then goes on to to blame donald

00:22:29.800 trump uh for him pardoning his son uh yes i don't know how republicans what made me done it i did go

00:22:41.160 back and i watched a whole bunch of cnn and msnbc takes subsequent to this news yes and and i i did have

00:22:48.840 to laugh at the first panel because it was these four women panelists who were on msnbc or whatever 1.00

00:22:53.960 it was and they asked the first one uh oh this is the breaking news and what do you think of it and 0.96

00:22:57.880 the first one was like oh shit i don't know what the line to take on this is right so she just squirmed 0.98

00:23:03.480 and said oh i don't don't come back don't ask me don't ask me and then the next one came along 0.91

00:23:08.840 and she was a little bit cleverer this one and she was like um yes it's disappointing that he's done

00:23:14.920 that but it's trump who's lowered the standards in politics and this is all you know standard all

00:23:20.120 this is kind of trump's fault so absolutely perfect narcissistic defense yes i cheated on you yes i

00:23:25.240 stole from you but can't you see how this is slightly your fault well yes you you made me do

00:23:30.680 the crimes i didn't want to do them but i'll be able to quickly say what i think actually oh yes go on

00:23:37.000 so i think he came out and said those things when the democratic establishment was behind him but as we

00:23:42.360 know they stabbed him in the back and put kamala harris in his place and so he doesn't feel any

00:23:47.640 obligation to them anymore and so his final act in politics is going to be to pardon his son because

00:23:52.520 he's got nothing left to lose because he doesn't care about politics anymore and it's pretty self

00:23:57.720 evident if you look at any videos of him now he's pretty happy that he's not involved in politics

00:24:02.200 anymore yes i mean i won't go through all the details on this statement because um on our other

00:24:07.320 channel the daily channel carl um carl went into a bit more just some observations first of all um

00:24:13.640 it is still only the beginning of december and joe's term runs until whatever it is on january

00:24:20.040 something like that so he might need to issue another pardon if hunter commits any more crimes

00:24:24.200 between now and then it's entirely possible he needs to get them in yes to go on a crack bender

00:24:30.600 get his crimes in get part well apparently this was this was agreed if if we believe the biden story over

00:24:36.600 thanksgiving dinner um so so he must have brought that really good dinner and it's and it's incredibly

00:24:47.320 broad this pardon it's basically for any crime he's committed in the last 10 years so he could 0.75

00:24:52.280 have a mountain of dead hookers which for hunter biden is actually quite possible buried in his under

00:24:58.600 his maybe not direct murder but through disease and no he's no he's no that's a that's a federal crime 0.96

00:25:03.480 isn't it or was that a state crime i don't know so he's had a he's had a blanket pardon for anything

00:25:07.960 that happened in the last any crimes committed discovered charged uncharged you know this is

00:25:13.400 good because it exposes the shameless hypocrisy and shameless nepotism that they're constantly

00:25:19.960 accusing the other side of yeah they're doing exactly what they can so that guy should have gone

00:25:25.720 to prison because that's the law but this is good so this helps so to put this into context um i mean well

00:25:31.400 biden called the prosecution of his son selective and political but it was done by his doj right um

00:25:40.520 and the reason that they they brought those charges is because they wanted to charge him on the gun crime

00:25:44.920 and then let all of the other stuff basically you know slip to the side so it's kind of so he's a

00:25:52.280 registered felon and therefore he's not allowed to own a firearm and then he he uh had a falling out with

00:25:59.480 i think his sister's widow who he also started dating weird um but he ended up putting that gun

00:26:06.440 in the bin or in the trash um and that is also a crime as well what a criminal genius well and and

00:26:13.880 all of this is going on at the same time that you know fbi swat teams are raiding catholic churches

00:26:19.640 parishes treating parents as domestic terrorists if they turn up to you know school meetings and

00:26:25.240 complain about the literature um in fact the department of justice has just ordered a 75

00:26:29.720 year old catholic woman to jail because she silently prayed near an abortion center yes so is that in 0.56

00:26:38.680 the states because i know we have that here uh yes yes uh yeah yeah her name was paulette harlow 0.99

00:26:45.320 she prayed too close to the abortion center yes in her head silently i hope to jail for you 0.92

00:26:52.120 that's offensive to the satanists that run run the democratic establishment i should also point

00:26:58.120 out that the the you know what i was saying before about the gun charge because it it kind of diverted

00:27:02.680 attention away from the real crime which was being a sort of bag man for the ukrainian money laundering

00:27:07.160 operation his brother jim is in the same situation as hunter here so you've got to wonder is jim going to

00:27:15.000 get a pardon closer to the to the date of whatever it is in january if it's all part of the mad scramble

00:27:22.360 to take the last few bits and pieces of opportunity i mean they'll probably steal the knives and forks

00:27:27.560 when they leave the white house it's anything and everything it's such an unseemly scramble now to leave

00:27:33.560 you know to take as much as they possibly can and to leave as big of a mess as they can for trump to deal

00:27:37.960 was when he gets in vis-a-vis the uh ukrainian situation i'll tell you why i'm so upset with

00:27:43.800 this sorry the reason i'm so upset with this is because did anyone see this coming yes yes i think

00:27:52.120 everybody on this panel saw it coming everybody in the audience saw it coming so why am i so upset

00:27:57.000 because it turns out there was a bloody polymarket um betting line open on this we could we could have

00:28:03.880 four x star money because liberals were coming in here and say of course he's not going to pardon

00:28:09.080 his son he said he's not think of the rates i was doing work on this in like 2021 when biden was

00:28:15.560 assuming office and i was just like well he's done lots of crimes it's undeniable he's going to be

00:28:19.480 convicted for these i could have made so much money because i and the reason i'm so upset with myself

00:28:25.320 is because this is so wildly obvious and there was a way to quadruple my money but it never occurred

00:28:31.880 to me that there would be a market for something this blindingly obvious but this is a perfect trade

00:28:36.520 because you've got all the liberals on the other side saying of course it's not going to happen he

00:28:39.800 said it's not going to happen so you can make money out of liberal delusion yes oh there we go when i

00:28:44.440 do that on market i never it never occurred to me to check polymarket so so this christmas i'm going

00:28:48.280 to have to spend um the time that i would have spent you know re-watching band of brothers and

00:28:52.440 doing a jigsaw puzzle i'm going to have to spend it combing is there like a polymarket um odds on

00:28:58.680 whether donald trump can is going to overthrow democracy or something like that because

00:29:03.800 i'm willing to put money on that yeah how do you quantify that though you need to kind of clear well

00:29:08.600 possibly but um the the left is is not uh wildly happy with this because they bought into this uh

00:29:16.280 110 and they're now made to look rather silly um what do you make of all of this what is likely to be

00:29:24.440 the response on capitol hill to this breaking news good to be with you uh see i told you so uh

00:29:31.400 they're all they're all like that so the next time any of us complain about anything trump does this

00:29:35.960 this pardon is just deflating for those of us who have been out there for a few years now yelling

00:29:40.920 about what a unique threat donald trump is for joe biden to do something like this trump nobody's above

00:29:47.000 the law we've been screaming well joe biden just made clear his son hunter is above the law

00:29:51.000 donald trump lies every time he opens his mouth we've been screaming joe biden repeatedly lied

00:29:55.720 about this the politicization of the justice system donald trump and his people have been

00:30:00.360 screaming that's exactly what biden said here joe is this a politics of purity i mean we had donald

00:30:06.280 so yes i mean i mean the left knows they haven't got a leg to stand on on this one completely flies in

00:30:12.280 the face of everything um also let's come back to the point about the uh pardon going back to 2014.

00:30:17.160 why 2014 you might well ask well that was when uh hunter biden was appointed as um

00:30:22.360 a burisma director oh presumably because of his deep background in the energy sector which he didn't

00:30:28.520 have was was it two hundred thousand dollars a year no no no it was millions a year it was two

00:30:34.440 hundred thousand dollars a month or a week or something oh that sounds about right that that's

00:30:38.520 the figure i've got in my head but of course he is just any old uh law graduate probably not even a

00:30:45.640 a particularly good one yeah i can't remember exactly his formal qualifications but it was so

00:30:50.040 obvious because at the time biden was vice president to obama i believe and biden was directly overseeing

00:30:57.480 the business in ukraine for obama so what mark of all you you asking the question what marketable

00:31:02.440 skills did hunter have he had access to his dad that that's the skill well that's it that's the only

00:31:08.680 possible thing they could be paying him that kind of money for exactly and it's a way to it's a way to

00:31:12.840 start funneling money from ukraine um to joe biden which we can only assume um has continued

00:31:19.960 somewhat since then it's outrageous really isn't it i mean one of the uh wherever you stand on whether

00:31:26.040 ukraine should be in nato or in the eu or whatever one of the reasons for them not being able to join

00:31:29.960 the eu that's been cited again and again is the same reasons why serbia fails or bosnia fails to get

00:31:35.480 their applications the eu it's highly highly corrupt you see the americans doing yes

00:31:41.800 and you think well how is this any different to serbia how is the democrats were just a little

00:31:47.480 bit better at hiding it because they also control the media um now if you want the full details on

00:31:52.520 this um on our other channel lotus eaters daily uh carl uh got into all of that stuff yesterday which

00:31:58.920 for the interest of time i can't cover here um but um for me the short takeaway is this

00:32:04.760 president trump was impeached for the things that hunter for looking into the things that hunter

00:32:14.200 biden has just been pardoned for that is true yeah because remember he was impeached for investigating

00:32:21.400 what was going on in ukraine that's what he was impeached for yes because he asked that question

00:32:25.880 about that prosecutor that joe biden arranged to have sacked and that was looking at the impeachment

00:32:31.480 yeah and because he looked into it that's what they impeached him for and which we're told there

00:32:38.520 was nothing iffy going on there but hunter biden has just been pardoned for that thing that trump

00:32:43.480 was looking in for that got him in i've just popped an article in uh our studio thing for samson to pull

00:32:49.560 up quickly of i created a timeline from about 2012 up until about 2020 of all of the business dealings

00:32:57.640 that hunter did i mapped them in a timeline and when you see them in that um format it seems pretty

00:33:03.880 resounding oh there we go so that's an article on our website where you can follow the timeline yeah

00:33:10.120 so this this covers his dealings in china um ukraine and russia interesting selection of countries these

00:33:17.160 seem to be the only countries that um he dealt in and they are all political enemies well except maybe

00:33:23.800 ukraine of the united states this is one of the things that leads to the general malaise and sense

00:33:30.680 of learned helplessness cynicism nihilism that infects the general public because when this type

00:33:36.760 of thing happens what is it is that that's the social contract right between us and the state oh

00:33:42.920 that's long gone torn to pieces why should we obey the law why should we pay taxes why should we do

00:33:48.280 anything we're being told to do when the people are in power are you don't mind a little bit you don't

00:33:53.400 mind a bit around the edges everybody can deal with that as long as the trains run on time and

00:33:58.200 the potholes are filled in but this is this is outrageous and and because there's we're so impotent

00:34:04.520 as people to do anything what are we going to do about it yeah just drop into learned helplessness you

00:34:08.520 just drop into that the state you mentioned before which is another end result of prolonged sustained

00:34:13.880 gaslighting and narcissistic abuse yes now the obvious question comes up if hide if hunter biden was

00:34:20.200 getting paid all of that money what did he spend it on well luckily we know because this is his his

00:34:26.120 bank records which of course we obtained from the laptop which i'll be talking about more in a minute

00:34:29.800 so let's have a look at some highlights of what he was spending his money on well the top as you can

00:34:35.640 see there 1.7 million went on cash withdrawals from atms now i presume in america they also have debit

00:34:45.160 cards and and those plastic things that you pay with so so why do you need to take out a vast

00:34:51.480 amount of money in cash drugs yes i think you've got it now i have to say only drugs there's a lot

00:34:59.720 of drugs well that's a lot of time at an atm i would love to know to take out 1.6 million in cash

00:35:05.400 at an atm how long do you have to actually stand there i mean it must have been there more often than

00:35:10.040 not i'd have to do the sums but i don't know what the limit is so is the limit like 500 pounds so

00:35:15.320 let's say it's 500 do it twice a day you go past the cash point machine does it 365 365 365 yeah i

00:35:22.520 suppose so yeah maybe two or three times a day yeah okay dollars gets you there is crack cocaine

00:35:29.160 gone up in price significantly that's the other thing i was thinking surely for 1.6 million you

00:35:33.080 could satiate an entire glaswegian council estate and and that was one man at least for a day

00:35:40.520 but yeah i don't understand because you know he's been mainly photographed by himself smoking crack 0.95

00:35:48.360 i suppose he had to share it with the hookers which we come to in a second at least he's generous but 0.90

00:35:52.600 i mean the man must have a superhero level of liver or something he must be very resilient i'm kind

00:35:58.040 of impressed yes the next line is payments for various women uh what is that uh seven hundred

00:36:04.760 thousand dollars um okay fair enough good lord um it couldn't have been written up as various women 0.89

00:36:11.880 surely so uh that's interesting that a drug habit is multiple times more expensive than women i never

00:36:20.040 would have thought that i'm not sure should it be that way around i'm surprised it's not been in my

00:36:24.520 i mean surely if you're given the choice between expensive drugs and cheap women or expensive women 1.00

00:36:30.760 and cheap drugs these are the deep philosophical questions that you'll be tackling on the podcast

00:36:38.280 um let's have a look at some other stuff so so lots of money on clothes um health um probably getting

00:36:44.360 detoxed by me that's a lot education i i doubt that um adult entertainment 200 grand on porn

00:36:51.240 how does how does one even do that if you want to well that is an awful lot of porn the other stuff

00:36:59.000 and that was that all he was doing 24 7 plus also it's free they're at the atl in his room 0.93

00:37:06.440 or smoking crack with hookers apparently it doesn't mean how many i mean i appreciate there's a lot of

00:37:11.800 porn sites i mean despite the fact that it's all free anyway there's a lot of but are there like 0.69

00:37:16.760 200 grand a year worth of well it's over three year period but still if you subscribe to all of

00:37:23.480 them that guy was busy i mean i think what we're missing here he's very resilient he's disciplined

00:37:29.720 he's he's committed and i like to see that in a human being he's gone for it i mean yeah two

00:37:35.000 nearly 200 000 you're going to be a degenerate you may as well go all the way it's the gold standard

00:37:39.640 of degeneracy this this is very industrious degeneracy so i will give him that uh there's a

00:37:45.240 a token gesture towards rehab for drugging i'll just send a little 70 70 grand get dad off my back

00:37:51.400 for a week it turns out if you spend less on rehab than the drugs you're buying that probably doesn't

00:37:56.440 work yeah uh yes so um where am i getting all this well it's from his uh laptop that everybody knows at

00:38:05.240 the moment uh there is a what i've seen going through the pictures well indeed there is a 630 page report

00:38:12.760 on the laptop breaking it all down featuring 191 sex crimes 128 drug crimes and what is it 140 um

00:38:22.920 business crimes these are other crimes these were depicted on on the they were all documented on

00:38:28.040 his laptop which he left in that computer sex crimes he was involved in yes well he filmed everything

00:38:34.200 he's like a the world's best investigator in self-incrimination isn't he yes that is just

00:38:40.280 or he would just film himself doing these things and that how sorry to linger on that point what what

00:38:46.600 what qualified them as sex crimes is it because they were prostitutes in states where prostitution is

00:38:50.760 illegal was it non-consensual well there's there's a number of things that you might find in there so

00:38:55.720 um i've had to redact this a little bit but here is here is hunter spending quality time uh with a very

00:39:02.360 young lady um did they did you guys remove my other photo um i don't know oh yeah here we go so

00:39:09.640 here we are quality time with a very young lady now they they made me blur out this image excessively 1.00

00:39:16.760 but she has very short arms she has a sort of very childlike face i don't i don't know what the details

00:39:21.400 here are right but it was i mean there's hundreds of pages of this stuff wow yes and he's normally

00:39:28.920 sort of filming himself doing drugs with them as well so so almost definitely with minors

00:39:35.320 well i i don't know or or it's suspected i think yes suspected yeah that uh young lady looks underage 1.00

00:39:41.880 yeah that does look like a 14 year old to me but i mean i mean i don't even know if it's his niece or

00:39:46.520 not i mean who knows with this chap um other images that we were on there and and i do wonder if the

00:39:52.440 next image is the mysterious pedo pete that he mentions in his emails but look at that old codger

00:40:00.440 um getting rather friendly with a naked um underage girl that's uh who does that look like i just want 1.00

00:40:07.320 to smell your hair man let me sniff come on man let me sniff your skull that is that pedo pete fella 0.97

00:40:14.760 that he mysteriously had saved to his contacts isn't it yes that he was yes um so who knows who that

00:40:21.800 this this character was saved in his contacts as pedo pete it was just a family inside joke

00:40:26.440 i remember i see that's what he explained it as in the media i mean that seems like a perfectly

00:40:31.240 ordinary family joke i mean yeah that's rather damning you would call your dad pedo dave

00:40:35.560 didn't you i mean it's just it's just a bit of banter it's a banter it's me and my father

00:40:40.040 it's also worth mentioning ashley biden's diary i don't know whether you mentioned that dan no i

00:40:45.800 haven't no uh yeah she mentioned that she took showers with joe uh at a um 20s much older age

00:40:54.760 well she described how even into her 20s she would have to shower at night once he'd gone to sleep

00:40:59.160 otherwise he'd come and get in with her and that that's he's the uncle or the uh that that is hunt

00:41:05.240 well some some people would say that that guy in the photo there bears a striking resemblance to

00:41:09.960 hunter's father and what would the relationship be with the young man well there's no reason for the

00:41:14.280 the young woman in question would have been his daughter yes oh god yes so you can imagine why

00:41:21.480 um they were a bit keen that this uh laptop did not get discussed um much at all but before before we

00:41:28.120 move on to that let's just remind ourselves what was on the ballot uh when this chap came to office

00:41:34.200 here we are dr jill biden decency is on the ballot wow interesting top comment uh don't scroll down

00:41:42.600 please probably probably best not anyway um youtube will take some some but not too much yes yeah

00:41:48.840 decency is on the ballot and decency is um well i suppose it's questionable as to whether we actually

00:41:54.440 got that or or not um so you as you can imagine they wanted to shut it down here are the 51

00:42:01.640 intelligence agents who swore that the laptop was made up just a wall of liars if it was made up

00:42:09.880 why has he just received a pardon interesting question um you know they went from the laptop

00:42:15.880 isn't real to um he has federal immunity for the crimes documented within it an official uh sorry

00:42:22.040 official signed witness statements that yeah they all they all wrote a letter they're 51 um intelligence

00:42:27.880 agency bosses or former bosses and they all wrote a letter saying that this laptop is just made up

00:42:32.040 it's russian propaganda these are all these are all intelligence agents wow so the corruption ironic name

00:42:36.920 yeah it really is the rot the rot is in deep that's disgusting some quick takeaways from this um

00:42:45.560 democrats have to pay a price for this otherwise it's just one of those things again where we

00:42:51.080 accept that democrats are immune to consequences the reactions uh another takeaway is that there is no

00:42:59.560 such thing as rule of law there is only power its friends and its enemies um if you are a friend then you

00:43:06.680 you don't need to worry about the law basically um and the other thing which is a positive i suppose

00:43:11.880 is that joe biden has taken away the issue of pardons out of the political arena for at least the next

00:43:17.080 four years why is that important well because we've got um j6s who are being kept in conditions like this 1.00

00:43:24.840 this particular chap has been kept in conditions like this for four years um and he hasn't even come to

00:43:30.440 trial yet i've spoke to jacob lang um from prison twice at one point he was facing the most charges

00:43:37.960 out of any of them he was saying that the conditions that they were being kept in were horrible in many

00:43:43.080 ways they weren't allowed to see their family and any people that were really allowed to see them for

00:43:47.960 a certain period of time were actually elected officials i think marjorie taylor green and a few others

00:43:52.920 came and actually visited them in prison but it does seem like they've been treated very harshly

00:43:58.920 proportionate to what they actually did themselves but we expected to believe that the us is not a

00:44:03.560 banana republic when its friends get treated the way that hunter has lavished with money hookers drugs 0.98

00:44:10.280 and pardons and people who protested against um you know their shenanigans with the last election

00:44:16.760 um gets basically locked away in conditions like this which are utterly utterly inhumane you

00:44:21.960 you wouldn't keep an animal in a condition like that no um so day one trump has to and i will get

00:44:29.640 very agitated if he doesn't do this day one he needs to just pardon all of them he has at least hinted

00:44:35.880 at it so far well he better do more than bloody hint i agree do it on on day one um closing thoughts

00:44:43.240 if he because we talked about how he's pardoned his son and he might need to pardon his um brother

00:44:52.440 how many more criminal democratic criminals are there you know that that's the interesting

00:44:57.560 well keith oberman has answered that question for us um oh you've gone back to the start oh there we

00:45:02.840 go here we are keith keith oberman says uh pardon hunter great now pardon everybody else every

00:45:10.120 prosecutor every biden uh administration staffer every media figure everybody trump will prosecute

00:45:17.000 10 million pardons at least now let's run the numbers on that um 81 million people apparently voted for

00:45:24.440 joe biden keith oberman reckons you need to issue pardons for 10 million of them so basically saying that

00:45:30.920 one in eight democrats is a criminal let's uh let's just sense check that does that sound about

00:45:37.160 right i think that sounds about right too low if anything you think it's more than one in eight

00:45:41.160 well that they're just the criminals involved in the regime what about just the garden variety

00:45:45.320 criminals the people that are let out by the soros da's and people like that um who are just

00:45:51.160 more traditional criminals i i think i think the number is about accurate i i because i mean there

00:45:55.960 must be some democrats who aren't criminals must be a decent number of them but but one in eight

00:45:59.880 i don't know i think that's fair it does it does seem to be uh so for this this particular

00:46:05.880 administration it does seem to have been a highly narcissistic highly psychopathic administration and

00:46:11.240 people who resonate with that they'll resonate with it because it resonates with their core values

00:46:15.800 or lack thereof yes right i better wrap up there um have we got any of those rumble ranty things i

00:46:22.360 need to read on the screen somewhere one oh a couple um oh okay um the engaged few says the 0.89

00:46:30.760 treatment of j6 protesters is an eloquent argument for dissolving the dc circuit court uh yeah quite

00:46:36.520 agree uh dragon lady chris says the left torn between these 50 professionals say the hunter biden

00:46:42.200 is fake news why aren't these 50 white people more diverse they must be evil quite possibly um the 0.98

00:46:48.840 engaged few says somebody should have told the president that his pardon doesn't extend to 0.88

00:46:53.080 crimes committed in other countries so you better hope ukraine doesn't decide to prosecute hunter oh

00:46:58.520 i didn't know that um can you scroll down if there's i think there's two more there uh all right

00:47:05.880 okay um the will pill says you can't be forced to self-incriminate on a government form republicans

00:47:11.080 would have wanted hyder to win the case under the fifth amendment uh possibly um and peter says

00:47:17.320 the scottish um have a saying uh within your house within the abortion clinic exclusion zone would

00:47:23.240 always so be a crime this is most likely to come to england too oh yeah so on the abortion thing

00:47:27.400 yeah praying within your own house yeah yeah you can only pray in your own house

00:47:32.920 we have prayer laws yeah yes oh yeah landed in the wrong effing century yes yes if you pray in a

00:47:40.680 place that's too close to liberals then yeah you get arrested okay yeah good bring on the apocalypse

00:47:47.960 please well give you the next best thing shall i so i have a suspicion that many of your favorite

00:47:54.760 youtubers are a narcissist and i'm aware that we do go on youtube so um i will be addressing that soon 0.60

00:48:01.320 enough but i'm very pleased to be with richard grannon here and you have a youtube channel talking all

00:48:07.160 about um narcissism and it's on youtube so i feel like you're uniquely positioned to answer this

00:48:13.240 question and just to go over it very quickly um there is such a thing as narcissistic personality

00:48:19.480 disorder which is a clinical condition um the dsm-5 which is the diagnostic manual um has a bunch of

00:48:27.800 things that you need to um get to be able to get a diagnosis i think it's about at least three of the

00:48:35.000 five no not three five of the following sorry um so having a grandiose sense of self-importance

00:48:40.680 such as such as exaggerating achievements and talents expecting to be recognized as superior

00:48:45.800 even without commensurate achievements preoccupation with fantasies of success power beauty and

00:48:51.000 idealization belief in being special that they can only be understood by or associated with

00:48:56.680 other high status people or institutions demanding excessive admiration sense of entitlement

00:49:02.360 exploitation behaviors lack of empathy envy towards others and a belief that others are envious of

00:49:07.960 them and arrogant haughty behaviors and attitudes that is uh what we've got here so i think another way

00:49:15.960 of of looking at it um would be um the dark triad um which at least looks at sub-clinical um things like

00:49:26.840 narcissism as well as psychopathy and machiavellianism and it looks at some of the things that can be

00:49:31.880 associated with it as well and i quite like approaching it that way um it's first published

00:49:36.760 in 2002 um and the statistical analysis of it that has validated validated is that even a word

00:49:44.360 validated i'm getting tongue-tied at the minute um validated this um measure suggests that there are

00:49:51.880 overlaps between the categories but they are um statistically significant as discrete categories as well

00:49:58.120 but it is predictive of crime it's proved useful in screening for leadership roles it's associated

00:50:03.240 with things like risk taking unethical decision making um and competitive strategies in business

00:50:09.000 when you say it's used for screening for leadership roles do you need to score high on dark triad to get

00:50:14.360 the leadership role or do you need to score low are you a little bit worried about you are not even

00:50:19.720 enough for this role i'm just curious enough i mean it depends how much uh you want to get into

00:50:25.160 politics in politics it's probably helpful in many businesses when you say it's used for scoring i

00:50:30.520 mean what if they do let's say i'm i'm being lined up to take the role of um ceo of a of a medium-sized

00:50:37.800 company and they do one of his test on me am i am i shooting for a high score am i shooting for a low

00:50:42.760 score well the funny thing is that if you're um like middle management or an employee you want a low

00:50:49.000 score but there's some evidence to suggest that if you're a ceo or someone in a senior leadership

00:50:54.840 role you're more likely to be a psychopath but also there is a better case for it being

00:50:59.960 somewhat advantageous i'd still rather people not be a clinical psychopath personally however um

00:51:07.320 it is not as black and white as it might seem okay so if if you're at least that's my opinion you

00:51:12.920 need to hide your power levels for low level positions but once you're going for the top jobs

00:51:16.760 you've got it you've got to perform on the dark triad test that's one way of looking at it yes

00:51:22.840 right but there is also the dark tetrad as well which includes sadism of course deriving pleasure

00:51:27.320 from others suffering and it also complements the big five personality inventory which i know jordan

00:51:32.440 peterson talks about a lot but it basically correlates with low agreeableness and low conscientiousness

00:51:39.160 on this scale because i can i can make i can make a still man case for the dark triad personality traits

00:51:45.480 but sadism that's like that's one of those ones where it's just always a bit difficult to redeem

00:51:49.320 isn't it yeah there's no there's no upside with that so i took the dark triad test and uh my narcissism

00:51:57.160 is very low i'm marginally higher on psychopathy so watch out uh you know be careful what you say

00:52:02.840 it's only 25 percent it's still quite i know but on average i'm actually uh lighter than the average

00:52:07.640 person so so the so the black bar was you and the and the gray bar was the population average so you're

00:52:12.760 well but you're what miles below on narcissism half the level of machiavellianism and average

00:52:18.600 for psychopathy just about yeah slightly above average why are you so low on narcissism do you

00:52:23.640 are you a fan of philosophy or yeah well i i just find um it's a very long convoluted thing but

00:52:31.160 generally speaking i i just find self-confidence really grating do you do a lot of critical thinking

00:52:37.880 like questioning your own thoughts questioning your own ideas you know i i did a masters in

00:52:43.720 research methodology and it sort of teaches you um to doubt your own judgments without the fallacies

00:52:49.800 exactly and you realize how flawed you are um quite quickly because you're butting your head against

00:52:55.080 mathematics basically you can't really deny it yes that's good because you are 26 27 almost 29 i'll

00:53:02.440 take it though thank you the moisturizer is working so in your in your uh generation um i i i would

00:53:08.760 expect it to be quite a bit high that's that's a very very low school oh are millennials less dark triad 0.72

00:53:14.520 then um they are well they're higher in trait narcissism right they're much much higher in trait narcissism 0.53

00:53:24.120 generally speaking oh because of the bloody phones and the selfies and the right yeah social media yeah

00:53:29.160 sorry um so uh just a question about that actually how how does it fall in terms of age because this

00:53:36.920 might be helpful for our youtuber diagnosis if you will because um i imagine depending on who the

00:53:43.640 youtuber is i imagine most of them will be falling afoul of narcissism but some might be machiavellian and

00:53:49.320 psychopathic as well yeah i mean i i'm not aware of of big uh dips uh and troughs uh and peaks just on

00:53:57.720 age but by generation so we know boomers boomers are quite high in trait narcissism i'm not surprised 0.95

00:54:03.800 generally speaking so this there seems to be the the stereotype um view whoever dies with the most toys

00:54:11.000 wins there's a kind of a boomerish a boomerish mindset yeah exactly gen x lower in narcissism but

00:54:17.320 then very high in neuroticism so tending to be a bit negativistic a little bit pessimistic we gave

00:54:24.040 them nirvana and nine inch nails how could we not be yes um and then yeah on to millennials uh again

00:54:30.280 it goes up again in in terms of uh trait narcissism um what was your question sorry um just how it

00:54:36.680 varied by age really yeah yeah so by generations i think we can see we've we've got data on what it

00:54:42.200 does by uh by generations but um i'm gonna quickly read out the definition of narcissism used in the dark

00:54:49.000 triad test so it's an egotistical interest in or admiration of oneself narcissists tend to be

00:54:54.280 excessively preoccupied with themselves and motivated by getting admiration from others

00:54:59.080 and maintaining a grandiose self-image because narcissists are so preoccupied we're getting

00:55:03.400 others to buy into their self-image they may initially seem charming but most narcissists have

00:55:07.800 trouble developing real relationships on account of their difficulty with empathy and lack of interest

00:55:12.520 in others so dan tell us about your results yes well as you can see i come up i come up somewhat higher

00:55:22.200 than josh um i i'm double the population average on on narcissism apparently um and that must be like

00:55:31.080 eight times whatever you got um however i take issue with this test you see because it's not me that's

00:55:37.480 wrong it's the test well no no it genuinely sounds very narcissistic because the test asks questions

00:55:42.680 like do you think you're better than most people yes obviously i i that is but that is not delusion

00:55:49.000 that is not delusion that is objective reality after living for four years in swindon i have concluded

00:55:54.680 that yes i am um so uh so it's one of those things whereby you could actually genuinely be quite

00:56:03.880 successful and it will bump you up even though you might not necessarily be unfounded it is one of

00:56:08.840 the genuine limitations of the test but it's it's it's a false report so let's not make it personal

00:56:13.720 let's not make it about me but you know this is the example i use of richard earlier in our brokonomic

00:56:18.040 if if elon musk were to be asked do you think you're better than most people i mean clearly he is

00:56:23.640 clearly is but that doesn't make him a narcissist yes and i think the difference here between you and

00:56:29.080 i is that i understand how the test works and i think you answered it um at face value and therefore

00:56:36.280 it's given you probably a higher score than you perhaps deserve whereas i i knew what it was

00:56:41.720 actually trying to measure and look at and so i was answering it with that in mind yes i wasn't

00:56:47.160 necessarily trying to answer it to make people look at me favorably i'm fairly certain i'm not a

00:56:51.960 narcissist in fact if anything i've often thought about going to um you know so um you know those

00:56:59.400 classes that you can go to that boost your self-image like self-esteem self-esteem classes

00:57:04.360 yes and this is not because i have low self-esteem i just don't think it's high enough you wanted

00:57:08.600 boosting yes wherever it's at i think you're perfect already dan yes this is true machiavellianism

00:57:14.280 that's all about lying i don't do that though i don't need to well it's not necessarily lying

00:57:17.880 because i think um you know you can be a bit machiavellian it's just about um scheming and

00:57:23.560 planning if you're a good venture capitalist you should be machiavellian oh you need a little bit

00:57:28.360 yeah i mean it is just the end justifying the means i will do what it takes to get the job done

00:57:32.600 kind of a thing that's yes i suppose there's a bit of that yeah and psychopathy i mean i don't think so

00:57:37.320 particularly i mean i get all the standard stuff like you know fantasizing about killing service

00:57:41.720 workers when they're slow and tardy well we all do that i mean i don't get the feeling

00:57:47.720 that you're going to reach over and stab me no i mean i've never actually i've never actually done

00:57:51.560 it we all think about it i mean yes you know having to deal with infrastructure in britain

00:57:57.240 you can't help but think of a tragic accident once in a while so yes but my point being is that

00:58:05.080 everyone has this to some extent right and what i would like to look at really is i'll take it off

00:58:11.560 your results just to make you feel a bit better there we go all right well i'll put it back um but now i'm

00:58:17.240 going to look at some of the behaviors that could manifest from youtubers so richard i imagine that

00:58:24.040 you've probably got a fair few ideas because you talk a lot about narcissism and you've probably

00:58:28.280 given it a whole lot more thought than i have and so i'm interested to see what you might say or even

00:58:33.000 things that you might have noticed yourself i think um youtube as a form of social media

00:58:39.400 um all of our the most popular social media that we have it incentivizes narcissism

00:58:45.000 um you will do better if you behave you will win the game of social media get more follows and more

00:58:51.480 likes as we discussed corporations before it's psychopathic so what is the end result that you're

00:58:56.280 looking for in a corporation it's maximize profit on social media it's maximize likes and follows

00:59:01.960 the more narcissistically and psychopathically you engage in that game the more you will win it's a sort

00:59:07.480 of playground for that kind of thinking really isn't it because it's it's sort of gamified to be as

00:59:12.520 rewarding as possible to someone with that sort of thought pattern and particularly

00:59:16.440 with the sort of meta of youtube at the minute where the thumbnails that do best you have someone

00:59:22.120 making like a face in the thumbnail and the fact that it's their face um in the thumbnail may lead

00:59:28.520 them to think okay well i put myself in the thumbnail i do better but normally it's just any

00:59:33.480 person's face tends to be more clickable it's just anything else yeah exactly for thumbnail thumbnail

00:59:39.400 perception psychology it's literally just a human face with an interesting expression draws the eye

00:59:44.120 the eye darts there quickly to see what's going on because it assumes there's a threat or something to

00:59:48.760 respond to in the environment because another human has gone oh we think something's bad there then

00:59:53.400 they'll read the title if the title is something provocative and clickbaity then then then that is how

00:59:59.000 it works but um yes so should i be putting scary faces in my videos angry afraid yeah they're the best

01:00:09.400 ones actually um i did some research on face perception and the emotion being exhibited captivates

01:00:16.840 the attention of men and women differently so angry faces are more um sort of grab the attention more

01:00:24.040 of men than they do women for example so how do you get women on youtube then sexy face

01:00:31.000 okay so i'm gonna have to a b test this now my brokonomics i said brokonomics angry face one

01:00:36.520 week sexy face seductive face the next week from what i can remember and this is going back

01:00:41.640 quite a few years now it's more to do with um other emotions there's there's less of a definitive

01:00:48.120 emotion whereas men it's just anger because we're right we're quite biologically motivated whereas

01:00:52.600 women are a bit more complicated but i think that things like happiness and sadness particularly 1.00

01:00:57.160 might grab the emotion if i remember correctly if they caught if they caught the camera caught

01:01:00.920 you mid-laugh where you're thrown hands being in there in the thing can make a difference but

01:01:06.680 yes you're right the youtuber may think it's their face and so narcissism is not love of the self

01:01:13.720 it's based on ovid's story of narcissus he falls in love with the image of himself so it's a love of

01:01:19.240 your own image it's a love of the false self and i think youtube instagram facebook it massively

01:01:24.600 rewards that because that isn't you it's a performance everybody loves that you also love

01:01:29.720 that you vicariously draw narcissistic supplies through the false self it's never it's never

01:01:34.120 direct so no i think it definitely makes people sicker is this one of those things that it matters

01:01:38.840 when you get get into it so i mean one of the things for our generation gen x is that by the time

01:01:44.600 internet porn came along we're already like our brain was formed yeah but for zoomers it's just 1.00

01:01:51.400 been there from day one disastrous so what presumably there's an effect like that for

01:01:57.320 youtubers as well if you're because if you're if you're our age and getting into youtube i mean you

01:02:01.560 kind of know who you are by the time you get onto it but what if you're a zoomer and you get into

01:02:04.920 youtube like from the start yeah they call that um the digital natives don't they so for the digital

01:02:10.120 natives it's much riskier because the brain is wired to the social media at their most neuroplastic

01:02:16.520 where the brain has the most neuroplasticity they've got a device in the hand yes we can approach 0.99

01:02:20.920 it cynically we're the last generation that can haha stupid social media how would you take this 0.98

01:02:25.720 seriously but for them it was it was melt they're almost like cyborgs it's melded to them before 0.99

01:02:30.760 those boundaries were formed you might be able to look at twitter posts and think who cares about 0.96

01:02:35.320 some idiot saying this to me but other people of a younger generation that's as 0.95

01:02:39.560 real in some respects as somebody walking up to them in the street and saying it and it's also 1.00

01:02:44.120 worth mentioning as well the brain remains neuroplastic up until around the age of 25

01:02:50.040 so someone can be well into their 20s before their brains started to solidify as well so yeah people

01:02:57.320 of my generation certainly me um have sort of grown up with this sort of thing and it does shape it

01:03:03.960 although i i remember the days of google videos before youtube was even a thing so uh i don't

01:03:09.720 know i think also particularly um there was a lot less emphasis put on the online world it's sort of

01:03:15.400 a bit taboo like you meet people in real life you know if you live online what's going on whereas

01:03:21.000 it's a lot more acceptable now and that's because it's more normal i think it's gained in gravity hasn't

01:03:25.640 it in many ways so you would have grown up in a time where there's the real world there's real

01:03:29.880 life and then there's a little bit of online now it's mainly what happens online is way more

01:03:34.680 important than what happens in the real world in in certain respects if you're a teenager i remember

01:03:39.080 the phone ringing and it it cut me off of my online game right that's how far back we're going but

01:03:44.840 anyway so so which of those do you want to be a good youtuber narcissism yeah narcissism and i would

01:03:51.720 say second machiavellianism and then third psychopathy might help you at the top levels of you but

01:03:57.160 narcissism if you're if you're if you're narcissistic in a sort of a brain dead non-proactive way all of

01:04:03.640 your dopamine the best dopamine hit you're going to get is from people looking at you for any reason

01:04:09.720 and the algorithms reward just massive amounts of content being pumped out it also rewards you

01:04:15.240 making your private life very very public which i think it's awful but i think that accounts for the

01:04:20.840 explosion and and people doing essentially prostituting themselves and turning themselves into porn stars

01:04:27.160 that the whole movement is towards taking the private and making public the intimate and making

01:04:32.600 it you know a consumable item because um but by sort of my mind the idea of doing a vlog about my daily

01:04:40.200 life makes me feel very uncomfortable it's not that you know i wouldn't mind sharing it necessarily but

01:04:45.240 it's just that it's it's sort of mine and the people i care about so it's not i don't mind discussing

01:04:50.440 ideas consumption not personal stuff yeah it seems like an invasion of your privacy

01:04:56.360 i was told three years ago it was 2021 during the lockdowns and i had an advisor come on board and

01:05:01.320 i paid him he was very very good a little bit expensive and he said if you want your channel

01:05:05.320 to blow up yes you should have the dry descriptions of psychoanalytic theory and how to recover from

01:05:11.080 narcissistic abuse people want to see you wake up in the morning and do your oats and make your coffee

01:05:16.840 and just talk to them about your day and i'm like i that that's to me that makes me feel nauseous

01:05:21.800 that's repellent i don't want them in my house and he was like well let me show you some examples and

01:05:28.120 um for the younger generation in the bodybuilding world there's a guy called sammy sulek who's become

01:05:33.240 very very famous and he will live stream for five or six hours and he just goes to the supermarket he

01:05:38.840 goes to the gym he talks in between sets he talks it's people watch this i think they're very lonely

01:05:45.640 what we're not seeing is such a loneliness epidemic so young like an 18 year old might look at him uh

01:05:52.520 if he's into bodybuilding look at a 23 year old who's doing well and quite happily sit there for

01:05:57.160 four or five hours with him to us that's freak show stuff like i'm not you wouldn't want to be filmed

01:06:04.040 and also you wouldn't watch someone for five hours while they babbled nonsense they're so lonely

01:06:10.280 so isolated yeah i can understand why they might want to do it though because of course

01:06:15.800 what what is the world offering many people these days as well and i'm trying to sort of

01:06:20.680 empathize with with why someone might do that and although since i've been creating videos for

01:06:26.520 youtube it sort of put me off even going on it to be honest yeah but i i can see why you would

01:06:31.400 want to do it because it's it's socialization like that and if you have had enough you can turn

01:06:37.560 it off and the real world isn't like that and if um that's something that particularly gives you

01:06:41.720 anxiety or something like that then that might be very appealing and i can see it so another thing as

01:06:48.040 well um this is something i'm going to hold my hands up and say we're guilty of creating clickbait

01:06:54.040 titles and exaggerated thumbnails to draw attention to you samson's giving us a big thumbs up well that's

01:07:00.360 that's kind of the job though isn't it or i don't do my own thumbnails and titles i let somebody

01:07:04.920 else do that because i'm rubbish at it that's andrew gold's defense i mean he makes great uh

01:07:09.720 thumbnails and great youtube titles but it it's the job that's the we didn't invent the we would

01:07:14.920 have it ranked by i don't know the intellectual um validity or perhaps the number of research papers

01:07:21.320 that is but that's not the metric the metric that they're using is shock or uh righteous indignation

01:07:28.120 rage bait does it make you horny does it make you laugh it's the basest human impulses imaginable

01:07:34.440 we just work here we didn't design the place no i don't normally write my titles for anything

01:07:41.400 because everybody thinks i'm bad at it i'll just type like women or something and that will be my

01:07:45.320 title being bad at that sort of thing and not it not coming naturally to you is in some ways a good

01:07:50.360 thing because it means that you're not you're not necessarily putting on a conscious air you're

01:07:56.440 you're just being authentic like i i always got well what if i get chucked out what if i get chucked

01:08:01.320 out and i have to make youtube videos all by myself you better learn be fine yeah you better learn to

01:08:06.440 hustle it's not just women it would be like women why are they so awful awful in block capital 0.93

01:08:11.880 letters exclamation mark have we got time to get into that no it's a bit of attention i'm shutting

01:08:18.600 it down so um another thing that happens um with at least this is my opinion um constantly talking

01:08:27.960 about themselves even in unrelated topics and there are many cases where um you have youtubers whose

01:08:33.800 entire modus operandi is to tell stories about things and and talk about their life and they sort of

01:08:40.120 spin a yarn probably sensationalize it a bit but whenever something comes up that's topical they'll

01:08:46.120 make a video and talk about how they've got experience with it and and this tends to be a more female 0.98

01:08:52.360 thing whereby they they tend to pass new information via their own personal experience and try and almost

01:09:00.680 attach themselves to something and you see this a lot with on the on the trending tab of youtube in

01:09:07.640 particular and these videos uh like my kryptonite if i watch about five minutes of it i want to

01:09:14.200 turn it off that's that's the more youtube friendly way and carefully just close the laptop and say no

01:09:19.880 thank you i'm going for a walk put it away so another thing as well is ignoring constructive

01:09:26.120 criticism and responding with hostility and this you see a lot on youtube actually of people seeing

01:09:32.120 some gentle criticism that's actually quite well meaning and quite often it will be a fan suggesting

01:09:37.000 something saying oh you need to sort this out and then they say well you don't know how difficult it

01:09:41.720 is or or something like well you know i'm doing the best i can so you need to you can either watch me

01:09:48.360 or watch elsewhere things like that where they're not necessarily criticizing them in many ways they're

01:09:53.320 trying to help them and it's not it's not the intention is good and it's being perceived as

01:09:59.160 hostility and therefore responded in kind that the one of the it's not one of the diagnostic criteria

01:10:04.760 but i think it should be is hyper competitiveness and hypersensitivity so they're very very prone to

01:10:11.320 see slights and insults where there are none i think it's called ideas of reference so they'll think

01:10:16.920 things are about them they're really not people are just saying i can't see your lighting sucks

01:10:20.440 it's not i'm not saying what you're saying is wrong you're you're this talk on psychology is

01:10:26.200 very i can't see you or i can't hear you it's distracting and they will take that it's because

01:10:32.200 with narcissism it it is predominantly there to stop reality getting in so data does come through but it

01:10:38.840 comes through this this mirror this mirage this waving shield and then it's like a prison that exactly

01:10:45.640 shifts the light doesn't exactly and it's distorted deleted and generalized something that is

01:10:50.280 a perfectly calm sane suggestion is internalized as the greatest insult imaginable narcissistic injury

01:10:57.640 oh i hate being a youtuber i hate doing this nobody appreciates me i used to work with somebody like

01:11:01.480 that we'd be talking about psychology and politics and i i started to realize after the 20th episode

01:11:07.240 after 45 minutes of talking about other people and real world issues it crept back in to how difficult

01:11:13.240 his life was as a youtube influencer and i'm like we've got people watching here who are doing 10 12

01:11:18.200 hour shifts in factories what's what's you know you work three hours a day mate shut up 0.83

01:11:25.160 so yeah it's it that's that's the that's the maladaptive side of of narcissism as far as youtube 0.92

01:11:30.920 because i did say before the more narcissistic you are the more you the better it will be for you on

01:11:36.120 youtube up to a point once you've gone past that point there's diminishing returns is that point past 71

01:11:41.400 percent you are right on the edge sir right okay right spot how do you school on this uh i

01:11:48.680 haven't done the dark tire test i did the uh d-factor test and i was like it was i was a weird mix so i

01:11:54.280 was quite high in conscientiousness and being open with people and then i was like extraordinarily vengeful

01:11:59.560 and sadistic i was like gandhi meets patrick bateman or something it was very odd very very odd i should

01:12:05.960 i should do it again and i should do i will do this for people surprising the sort of quirks that you

01:12:10.360 you have because i i tend to be quite laid back about things but once someone crosses me yeah i'm out

01:12:17.880 for blood then they must suffer exactly try the d-factor test as well so i'll do this dark triad test

01:12:23.480 and then people are interested it's free as well d it's just d-factor and it's a d for dark uh dark

01:12:29.160 traits and they measure not just these three or the four from the tetrad i think they have 11 or 12

01:12:34.760 dark factor traits they measure it's it's interesting it's good to know so um i i'm

01:12:39.320 aware that this has gone on for a little while so i'll just do a couple more so pretending to show

01:12:43.720 vulnerability or hardship to elicit sympathy and support and this is another one particularly

01:12:49.400 with youtuber apology videos you see quite a lot it's just like oh i'm going through such a tough

01:12:55.480 time and they're drying their eyes on their you know thousand dollar bills in their great big house

01:13:01.240 that's you know one room is bigger than some people's flats and you know you know sorry i'm

01:13:06.840 not defending them at all but in terms of this issue of audience capture like why do we have to do

01:13:11.320 clickbait titles and clickbait thumbnails i released uh emails maybe i'll do it once every two weeks and

01:13:17.480 once i i put the incorrect information in an email so two hours later i sent out an email that the subject

01:13:23.720 thought was just sorry and where i would normally get a 30 open rate that was like shot up to 70 and

01:13:31.080 i was thinking why are you opening an email that just says sorry i think they're expecting an

01:13:35.160 apology video so it's these are videos that when people release oh i'm sad i'm sorry people love it

01:13:42.440 i don't know what i don't know what they're getting from it they want to see the youtuber contrite

01:13:46.840 apologizing for their sins it's like some weird religious i think people generally this is my

01:13:52.440 understanding of it at least people generally feel like there are a lot of wrongs in the world and

01:13:56.520 seeing people publicly apologize for things even if they've not necessarily done anything wrong

01:14:02.200 gives people a sense of catharsis like there's something being done to counter the balance that's

01:14:06.760 just my own guess it's going on good theory i like it i like it so um another one as well blocking or

01:14:13.960 deleting comments that challenge their authority or image this i have seen many people accused of that

01:14:19.960 and um also engaging in unnecessary feuds to maintain relevance that's the final one i wanted

01:14:26.600 to end on because this does go on quite a lot and you see it all the time where people are clashing

01:14:31.800 and it it rarely goes well for people it's a very high risk strategy to do that to start feuds with

01:14:37.560 people and be unreasonable and publicly rude about someone who shares the sphere and you probably have

01:14:44.680 a fair amount in common with a lot of the time typically because of the narcissism of small

01:14:48.440 differences there'll be more aggression shown to people who are more like us than to people who

01:14:52.760 are less like us because they occupy the same niche and so you're competing basically for resources

01:14:58.680 and so hopefully we've given you a bit of a toolkit to refine your youtuber diet i imagine many of you

01:15:05.400 watching lotus eaters probably don't watch many of the worst offenders of this but it's they're not

01:15:10.360 on makeup tutorials afterwards you know we're not so bad um no we're obviously guilty of some of

01:15:17.160 them aren't we um and i think that part of being responsible don't shake your head samson we're

01:15:23.880 part of being responsible when you you have a media company when you have a presence i think

01:15:28.040 is just being upfront about how you feel and being honest and and not presenting yourself with any sort

01:15:32.920 of um you're not putting up a false persona i think that's actually very important and should be

01:15:38.520 something that's encouraged and will obviously create a more healthy society and that's what i would

01:15:43.480 like to see right um do you want to read a couple of the uh the rumble rants we've got quite a few

01:15:49.880 so you can't do them all but sure um bobobad says i can't say i'm surprised that youtubers and twitch

01:15:54.680 streamers have narcissistic tendencies it was very manifest with the machiavelli chapter in the prince

01:15:59.480 about tricking um alt right men into intercourse what i don't remember that in the prince

01:16:05.400 uh davy verse huh in the prince yeah i don't think that's the game she's thinking of isn't it

01:16:14.440 i don't know um uh davy verse says uh where this dark tried test i want to get um pass go and collect

01:16:22.120 two hundred dollars uh i think there's a website called idr labs which um has a psychologically robust

01:16:30.840 one that's available um wellesley says biden announced the next uh round of pardons will

01:16:36.920 double as christmas greeting cards to save time that's quite good well done um the engaged few

01:16:43.320 says uh the treatment of gen six protesters is an eloquent argument for dissolving oh we've read

01:16:47.560 that one actually so we're all good let's see what mr cooper has to say

01:16:50.600 not a lot because he's muted youtube channel mike with the mike five take it away man amen okay my

01:17:01.240 wife and myself are out on the street six days a week every week for the last year church on sunday

01:17:07.080 and in that time god by his spirit has done amazing things over 10 000 people have committed their heart

01:17:14.360 to jesus isn't that a beautiful thing absolutely do it all the time in jesus name well check it out

01:17:20.040 mike with the mike five on youtube thank you for that mr cooper got any more or um oh yes should do

01:17:28.840 oh that looks nice hello lotus eaters it is a beautiful friday morning here in western washington

01:17:36.600 and i decided with my bank giving gratitude that i would upgrade to a gold tier subscription i remember

01:17:43.560 you guys saying that you enjoy more wholesome kind of non-political content so i thought i might

01:17:49.960 i might share some panoramic shots from my friday morning hike this morning thank you very much for

01:17:55.960 everything you do and god bless that's a nice morning it looks lovely yeah i'm very jealous i i've been

01:18:02.360 re-watching twin peaks for the millionth time and it makes me want to go to washington so badly because

01:18:08.040 it looks lovely around the state yes not dc goodness no

01:18:12.120 we've had a succession of governments that have created this situation it dates back to the time of

01:18:20.040 tony blair with iraq but you're talking about the fact that the infrastructure we have inside the uk

01:18:27.640 from the nhs doctors dentists whatever we're on our uppers this country literally it's going downhill

01:18:36.440 on a long-term basis we cannot afford to continue providing this level of care

01:18:47.240 very true thank you it's funny he said he met the the local reform people there are a few years

01:18:53.320 behind us but good people it's funny because beau and you have expressed similar sentiment that they

01:18:59.320 their hearts are in the right place they're just perhaps getting there slowly yeah yeah being on social

01:19:05.240 media after the election has made me wonder has anyone else noticed that the political left

01:19:09.400 just seemed to come up with phrases out of nowhere and then all start using them in lockstep and then

01:19:13.320 just stop using them at some point in the future and just never reflect to realize they were wrong

01:19:17.960 really makes me wonder what's going on over there

01:19:35.480 yes i think it's just to do with the amount of conformism in the current american left in that

01:19:42.680 that they'll hear something and immediately adopt it because it's come from their side they're in

01:19:49.000 group and then it sort of becomes part of their identity because their politics are their identity

01:19:55.080 because of course identity politics i think that they're very vulnerable to ideological very vulnerable

01:20:00.680 to ideological infection aren't they it seems to be and you said because of the conformity but they're

01:20:05.560 not big on critical thinking they're not big on philosophy they're big on just accepting what

01:20:09.720 they're giving and spewing it back out they're like little meme vessels all right let's see what

01:20:14.680 alex has to say hey hello cedars after a year of being an offline i am returning uh both to x as men

01:20:22.200 are ghosting uh handle here and men are speaking my old channel on youtube i'll be making content again

01:20:28.840 soon talking about marriage culture technology and the like but check us out this is my reverse osmosis

01:20:34.680 water filter system my three inlet filters and remineralizer which actually fuel my automatically

01:20:40.600 refilling pitcher inside of my refrigerator and ice maker so proper prep and stay clean

01:20:48.040 he has taken that so much further well done sir well done right to the comments yes um

01:20:56.200 i'm sure i'm sure we can run a couple of minutes over if we need to um annie moss says really enjoyed the

01:21:00.920 guest richard grennan he is a great guest and not just for the biden impression which is spot on you

01:21:05.240 do a biden impression sure man let me sniff your kids come on man very good um last petter simon

01:21:15.000 son says question for richard grennan how common is it that people with certain personality disorders

01:21:19.960 try to hide it by emphasizing how bad other personality disorders are uh

01:21:27.160 uh what well they they do but they don't oh it's here uh they usually just stay with narcissism it's

01:21:33.800 not like the people who do this if they're doing it as a narcissistic defense i think it's called

01:21:38.520 darvo so it's deny and then reverse victim and offender they're not going to go in and read

01:21:43.960 about borderline personality disorder or psychopathy they're just going to say i'm not a narcissist

01:21:49.160 you're a narcissist and that word narcissist has now been thrown around so much that it's essentially

01:21:55.080 become a slur so yes they're likely to do it but if they turn around and say oh you have

01:21:59.880 skitside personality disorder i'd be very impressed they won't they just say you're a narcissist which

01:22:05.320 in modern parlance nowadays means literally anybody or anything that causes any kind of disappointment

01:22:10.520 massively overused term but the answer to your question is years um annie moss says i am very

01:22:15.480 sorry to see that dan has returned to his previously poor wardrobe choices uh dan you showed such promise

01:22:20.920 last week shame to see you drop your standards again and alex ogle says carl's not around so

01:22:25.000 dan thinks he can relume his slovenly ways disgraceful exclamation mark now let me point out here

01:22:30.760 that i am not slovenly dressed i am actually particularly well dressed i just don't feel

01:22:34.680 the need to wear a tie ties are for waiters and people who on the sell side i was on the buy side

01:22:40.440 buy side people don't wear ties right and carl doesn't even carl doesn't wear a tie unless he's

01:22:46.120 just about to go on the podcast and then he takes it off so i shall have none of that sir and and

01:22:50.120 madam we're gonna be moving on i don't know why you're getting all this i'm dressed like a stage

01:22:54.040 hypnotist um do you want to do a couple of your segment josh sure um interesting name here topical

01:23:03.480 for youtubers as well destiny's loves of sausage um in a way wanting to be a politician should be a sign

01:23:11.400 of potential psychopathy um they are the least qualified of us to be in charge i agree with my

01:23:17.720 desire to be a politician is up there to be you know with my desire to be a human sacrifice basically

01:23:23.800 zero um carl's underground cache of irradiated fray bentos says a key issue with representative

01:23:31.560 democracy is that those who desire power are also those who should have it least to quote frank herbert

01:23:38.200 is not that power corrupts but that power is a magnet to the corruptible this is a good argument

01:23:43.720 for selecting representatives by random lottery a random man off the street is less likely to be

01:23:48.920 a psychopath than someone self-selecting to have their power of life and death over others

01:23:54.440 i mean my answer to this would be that government has a lot less power um if they can mess with your

01:24:00.520 lives less the stakes are much lower um but of course it's still important to have people in charge

01:24:05.960 that are trustworthy omar awad says the proclivity for humans to follow authority a narcissist to seek

01:24:13.080 power makes for an awful symbiosis still it's nice to have a bit of science to back up instinctual

01:24:18.040 assumptions and that is true that a lot of these things are instinctually programmed into people

01:24:23.160 as in the understandings themselves of this sort of thing there's a good sort of colloquial pop

01:24:29.000 psychology understanding of these things without having to dig into the weeds of the actual psychology

01:24:33.640 necessarily because you know everyone is a psychologist it's just that some people um

01:24:39.720 you know go for it as a profession because you have to be to be a human being and so that's why i

01:24:45.320 try and avoid being a massive credentialist is that you know as long as you have experience being a human

01:24:51.240 being you're qualified to talk about psychology so should we go to some of your comments yes uh george

01:24:58.760 hap says to give joe biden some credit at least he's using the president presidential pardon to

01:25:02.840 help his allies trump wasted them on some thugs rather than to save the jan six process uh protestors

01:25:08.200 or assange and snowden uh yes good point that is indeed exactly what happened um

01:25:15.000 blah blah blah blah um baron and warhawk says do you know would it be funny if trump pardoned alex jones

01:25:21.320 it's a civil case not a federal case i don't think he has that option um andrew narrow says cash

01:25:27.480 isn't only for drugs but also for trying to make transactions untraceable so that's actually so

01:25:32.840 maybe he paid some of the women with cash yeah yes that's quite possible isn't it how did they

01:25:39.560 know when they were going through though that's that money it said it said sorry various women

01:25:44.360 it's a very how did they know because it was a bank transfer with a woman's name

01:25:48.200 it was bank tray his bank he was bank card machines

01:25:52.200 but but yes i mean presumably not all hookers take bank transfers none of mine do what 0.99

01:26:01.400 have you asked i should be far more convenient they presumably don't have one of those little

01:26:06.280 things that you plug into your phone that fast food shops use where you can just tap the card

01:26:10.120 that's what i was wondering it said various women i was thinking how is that traceable so it must be 0.63

01:26:14.360 that he's literally bank transferred oh yeah if you if you if you read the report that i linked you can

01:26:19.400 see the the the actual names and it was yeah he he sets them up on a bank account so that he can

01:26:25.320 then so fast pay them without joking his appetite for prostitution over those yes was enormous 0.92

01:26:34.360 and and yes and porn that's i wonder yes i wonder what's going on with that hypersexual now this is 0.94

01:26:40.040 going on youtube i can i can drop this bombshell that the reason that he took so many pictures of his 0.99

01:26:45.320 penis according to hunter biden is that he has body dysphoria about his nine inch penis just just 0.99

01:26:52.200 going to throw that out and leave that there is that something he said yes 0.99

01:26:57.320 i just found that interesting but we have the photos

01:27:01.480 all right okay um i i will stop there then and let you do a couple from the last one

01:27:06.440 sure um dr david ferugia says next week dan will be experimenting with facial emoting sexy face for

01:27:13.240 the thai ladies and angry face for the thai lady boys nice i'll give it a try i mean let's see if it

01:27:18.360 works uh matt d says i've been really interested in narcissism ever since i realized that i used to be

01:27:24.840 married to an emotionally abusive narcissist thanks for your insight it's generally very interesting

01:27:30.280 fitting all this into my own experience it all fits together like a jigsaw when you explain it

01:27:35.960 that's good and i'm sorry to hear that's happened to you and at least you're coming to an understanding

01:27:42.600 on it that's a very positive thing and finally uh the proletariat says uh the chart confirms josh is

01:27:48.760 your average psycho good to know so watch out that's right that's not in the comment that's my own words

01:27:55.000 excellent well uh thank you for joining us uh for turning up thank you for super chatting and

01:27:59.720 commenting and subscribing and all that kind of stuff thank you for for josh for two excellent

01:28:03.640 segments thank you for richard for coming along and uh check out his socials and stuff cheers

01:28:09.080 channels and uh we'll see you in the next one

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - December 03, 2024

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1055

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