The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1058
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Summary
The Lotus Eaters are joined by Carl and Stelios to discuss the shocking new data from the Office for National Statistics, and Greg Wallace's ouster from the Irish election. They also discuss the new most popular baby name in England and Wales, and why it's not a bad thing that it's named after a Muslim prophet.
Transcript
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Hello and welcome to the podcast of The Lotus Eaters, episode 1058 for the 6th of December
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2024. I'm your host Connor, joined by Carl and Stelios.
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Today we're going to be discussing the dire demographic revelations by the ONS, Ireland's
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disastrous elections, and the cancellation of Greg Wallace. Now you might be wondering,
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it's a Friday, what's Connor doing here? That's because I'm hosting Lads Hour this
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week, and at 3 o'clock we're going to be discussing Pirates of the Caribbean. I've been teasing
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this one for a while. One of, if not my favourite movie trilogy of all time, and we've got some
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esoteric takes on it, so it's going to be a lot of fun. So, it's great.
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And don't go wrong, I like Pirates of the Caribbean as much as anyone else, but...
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So, we're going to be doing that at 3 o'clock. If you're not a subscriber to the website,
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you won't be able to watch it, so you've still got time to subscribe to watch live, and then
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we'll be reading your comments after we give our very contentious takes. And that will be
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with Josh, Harry, Rory, and Luca when he gets here. So, without further ado, we'll get into
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today's news. So, the ONS has revealed the most popular baby names in England and Wales
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It's not Arthur. Luca, Theodore, Oscar, Henry. Axel fell out of the top 100 this year, for
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Yeah. But Mohammed has risen up to the number one for obvious reasons. Now, people were pointing
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out, whoa, whoa, whoa, hang on a minute. The only reason Mohammed is the most popular
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baby name, actually, is because the English have so many other names. Yeah, I don't want
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anyone in the country who is inclined to name their child after the Prophet Mohammed, given
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what he did. So, the problem is that any of them are here in the first place. And Bodhi
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also entered the top 100. Classic British name.
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Yeah. Very odd. I mean, the ONS have put up some graphics here that really illustrate the
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situation. Raya and Margot have moved up, because people name their children rapidly
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Yeah, that's exactly why. So, just to get this, I tweeted this out and just reminded everyone
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that if you're concerned about cultural change, which a nation full of Mohammeds denotes, because
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I don't think all these Mohammeds are abiding by British values, excuse me for my scepticism,
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if you're concerned about that cultural change, then you can't afford to ignore demographic
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change. And the ONS lays out this demographic change in pretty stark reality in some of
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its graphs and the like in here. There's figure four in here for a map of these names, so we
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can see exactly who and where in the country are naming this. And what I found quite interesting,
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as you can see, so this is the one for girls, this is the one for boys. So if you zoom in,
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it's Manchester, Birmingham, Oxford, Buckinghamshire, not London. Not London. Well, you know what's
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interesting is that London is not actually the most concentrated place where Muslims in
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No. London is a kind of, I don't know how to describe it, it's kind of the vast cosmopolitan
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mix of all the globalist client groups. They all move back and forth through London, whereas
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we have colonies in these other areas from particular countries in the subcontinent.
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Can you go to Leeds Bradford? Bradford would be around Birmingham, wouldn't it? No, it's
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a bit to the right. Close to Leeds. At least the one I have in mind. Where is it? I am
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bad with maps. Let me do it. Go for it. Leeds, right there. Leeds is up. Nottingham, shock.
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Sheffield. Sheffield, shock. Rotherham. Wakefield. It says Leeds. So Noah. Oh, I saw
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Otto English, the most throbbing brain of British historians. Yes, unsurprisingly,
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Mohammed is the most popular name in Bradford. So Otto English pointed out, aha, but did you
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know that Noah is also a Muslim prophet? So checkmate, bigots. It's like, number one,
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Noah is not a prevalent name throughout the Muslim world. But also, if you're saying that
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the Muslims also calling their kids Noah, well then that doesn't change the problem at all.
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No, the problem's actually way worse. Yeah. Because Noah's number two. So there you go. The three
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most popular names for baby girls in England and Wales were Olivia, Amelia, and Isla.
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What? Why do you think that is? Why are Muslims not having more baby girls?
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Well, I think that actually the issue is probably going to be about the concentration of the name
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Every other Muslim is called Mohammed. Yes, sure. Why is there not a high concentration
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of baby girl names? Well, I don't think Muslims just kill all the baby girls or anything.
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I remember in Lewisham they had to stop telling the sex at birth because of all the sex-selective
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abortions, which Keir Starmer actually argued in favour of when he was a human rights lawyer.
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I think they've got a multiplicity of girl names. I might be wrong.
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Yeah, that's possible. What's interesting as well, sadly, is that this is highly concentrated
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in England because Mohammed is only the 63rd most popular baby name in Wales.
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Yeah, but that's been the case for immigration generally. I mean, this is just basically a map
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of immigration, as every map is just a map of immigration. No, honestly, there is the map.
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It's the demographic map, and that's all I love being. But the immigration into Britain has just
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mostly been into England by a factor of like 10 to 1. It's been crazy.
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Now, this movement of Mohammed rocketing to the top space is not really much of a shock because it
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was the second most popular name in 2022. And it's been on the list of the most popular names
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since 2016. It's been in the top 10. And why could this possibly be? Well, it might have
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something to do with the relative fertility rates because this was late October. As I mentioned
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on my show, which you should be watching behind the paywall, self-promotion, the average total
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fertility rate is now the lowest in England and Wales since records began in 1938. So the total
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fertility rate in England and Wales is 1.44 children per woman in 2023. Bear in mind, the replacement
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level is 2.1 because you want a child per parent and then 0.1 is just in case, sadly, people
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die off. Turns out the total fertility rate hides two stats. The first is that total fertility
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rate is the average number of children per woman. Now, childlessness is what's driving
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this because the majority of women now in the UK have reached 30 without having any children
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at all, despite the majority of them reporting wanting children. So that's a great personal
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tragedy. The problem is people aren't having fewer children per family. It's lots of people
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having no children and some people are having lots of children. And who are the some people?
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Well, the breakdown isn't in here, but the breakdown does come later.
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Connor, I want to ask you something because I think that this is a pattern across Europe.
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When we see the very low, below-replacement birth rates, it isn't just native birth rates.
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Different demographics have more children than the native population.
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Yeah. So for instance, let's say if we are to take the English population, is it going
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Figures for 2022 showed the average fertility rate had declined to 1.49. So it's steadily falling
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and to then 1.55 in 2021. That's despite mass immigration from countries with higher birth
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rates. So that means the native population is falling faster than the imported populations
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with higher birth rates. So that's what the number is concealing.
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I looked into this a few years ago. And the thing is, after something like two or three
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generations, the imported population, their birth rate declines as well. And so essentially
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the West is becoming a black hole for lineages.
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Yes. It's becoming a mouse utopia where pretty much everyone is staying inside, becoming a
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beautiful one and grooming themselves and gooning without actually reproducing.
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So, you know, grandmothers in India, just think about that. If you move to Britain, you're
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I haven't met the Republican congressman yet. From the ads. It's okay.
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Yeah, he's my favourite character. Isn't there someone you forgot to ask?
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Yes, quite. You asked for a demographic breakdown, Stelios.
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Here's something pretty shocking. Now, this is from Daily Mail reporting and the Daily Skeptic.
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In 2021, 74% of live births were to white British mothers. In 2023, it was 56%.
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An 18% drop-off in live births to British mothers within two years.
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I wonder where this nation of Mohammeds came from. Can't possibly work it out.
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Wow. We did have quarter of a million Indians in every bloody year.
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Yeah, that explains why Bodhi's just sort of rocketed up the chart. So now, we've got another
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breakdown. Almost one in three babies in England and Wales were born to women from outside the
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UK. Now, that isn't counting as well women who are second-generation immigrants.
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a decade earlier after passing the quarter mark, 25.1% in 2010. More than one-third, 37.3%
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of live births last year, were to parents where either one or both were born outside
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the UK. India remained the most common country for birth for non-UK-born mothers, 3.6% of
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all live births and 3.9% of fathers. With Pakistan remaining second. There is a league
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There's one thing I like to see as league tables.
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Yeah, so we've got India at the top, then Pakistan, then Romania, then Nigeria, then Poland,
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then Bangladesh, Albania, Afghanistan, Ghana, and the USA.
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Yeah, that's great. We've become a full-on nation of Indians under Rishi Sunak. Wonder why.
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Ghana entered the top 10 most common countries for non-UK-born mothers the first time in 2023
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in ninth place with 0.6% of live births. That pushed out Germany.
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Yeah. Greg Seeley, who's the head of population health monitoring at the ONS, a very sensible
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and impartial man in a neutral institution, said the data doesn't give you an accurate
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picture of a family's ethnicity or migration history.
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So what he's saying is way worse than what we're showing you.
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Yeah, he says almost a third of babies born in 2023 in England and Wales were born to non-UK
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women, a slight increase on the percentage in 2022. This is a continuation of the long-term
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trend of the percentage of live births to non-UK-born mothers generally increasing.
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As Kiyosama said, this isn't an accident. It's by design and it's a deliberate plan.
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Yeah. I'm just going off what the Prime Minister says. Don't call me a conspiracy theorist.
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And he says, while our birth data shows us the parents' country of birth, it doesn't
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give us a picture of the family's ethnicity or migration history. And it's worth noting
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that not all women born outside the UK will be recent immigrants.
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Oh, that's all right then. My country of Mohammeds is just as British as you and me.
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I hate this hat. This entire line. Well, I mean, Alistair Campbell on Question Time yesterday,
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right? He was like, look, we shouldn't be judging them by our standards of what we consider British.
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And it's like, what do you mean, what we consider British? Every single one of these migrants,
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Alistair, is not British by definition because they are immigrants. They couldn't be immigrants
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if they were British. It's just, it's so crazy.
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But here's the Motten-Bailey argument as well. Harrison Pitt, my co-host and deprogrammed occasional
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locality, mentioned this to me yesterday. You know that, let's say, certain Welsh choir boys,
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when they argue that because they're born in Wales, they are Welsh, are not Welsh because
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Wales themselves will tell you they're Welsh because they feel the need to accommodate in
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the history curriculum retroactive black Britons being in there to represent them. So they're
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making the admission that they are set apart from the Welsh native population, otherwise they
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wouldn't feel the need to revise history to represent them. So which is it? Are they as Welsh
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as you and me because they're born in Wales or England? Or is it they're a separate ethnicity
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who requires representation to make them to feel like they belong? Yeah. The purpose of
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a system is what it does. Infinity migrants is the result, therefore infinity migrants is
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the point. The exact same thing is actually happening in Europe, Selyos, which you've mentioned.
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New data from the EU reveals that EU births have plunged to an all-time low. Just 3.6 million,
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6-7 million babies were born across the 27 nations in 2023. That's down 5.5%.
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on 2022, which is the biggest percentage drop since records began. So we are, as you said,
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becoming just a demographic black hole. And there are several reasons for it. I won't
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take much time over your segment, but for instance, I'll just say about Greece. Greece is a very family
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oriented society. We have close to 1.3 fertility rate. It isn't because people don't want to have
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family, although they do tend to postpone it a bit. It's mostly economic, but obviously it
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differs according to the country. Well, the funny thing is as well, it's not just economic,
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because as Paul Morland, the very good demographer who's been on my show, has pointed out,
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the areas that have very low income housing relative to your earnings, they're seeing similar
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falls in fertility. So it just seems like a complete crisis of faith in ourselves. And it's almost like
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the moment that you have to rationally plan a child in accordance with your economic or lifestyle
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goals. It becomes difficult to justify making those sacrifices if you've spent your entire life
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defining yourself as like a working, self-defining individual before it just sort of happened to
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people. I mean, about a third of the births in 19th century America were shotgun weddings.
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But if you look, the 1960s in the middle of the graph, that's also the oil shock. And that
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happened in Italy, Germany and Japan all around the same time. And the graph just plummets off a cliff.
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Yeah. But in the 80s and moving onwards, birth control becomes very widely available.
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In South Korea and Japan, though, birth control is not widely taken. So there are also other factors
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Right. The other interesting question would be, why did it rise from 2000 to, let's say, 2008?
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No idea. But at the moment, the Greek total live births is half of what they were 50 years ago.
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It's catastrophic. Whereabouts is Hungary as well? Because Hungary is doing a lot better. Only a 2.2% fall.
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I mean, that is better. But look at that, though.
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Even then, just, like, we can't seriously be looking at this and going, yes, Europe has a future. No, we're screwed.
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Well, it does have a future. It's just sourced in sub-Saharan Africa.
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Even then, like, they're going to have to get a lot of Africans.
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Yeah, that's the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation plan.
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The study they published in The Lancet said by 2100, there's only going to be six countries on Earth,
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I think two in Asia and four in sub-Saharan Africa that have positive birth rates.
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So we'll just get our entire population from there.
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I mean, we've gone from roughly, like, 900,000 to 750,000.
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I mean, that's bad, but it's not that bad. It's not Greece levels.
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Yeah, but it craters around the early 2000s and then suddenly starts spiking up.
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What happened around the late 90s, early 2000s that could have caused this rebound?
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I wonder. We're also, the UK is the fastest falling one in the G7.
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Oh, no. Bad luck, Poland. You've got the European futures ahead of you.
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Sorry for the depressing segment, ladies and gents, but we do actually...
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Only five nations saw a total rise in birth, so that's Malta, that's about 3.6%,
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Portugal, 2.4%, Bulgaria, 1.1%, Cyprus, 1%, and Ireland, 0.5%.
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When your demographics all collapse, Portugal's time to shine.
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The Irish famous for large families, only 0.5%.
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And again, that might be something to do with...
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Speaking of which, how come, as Stelios has said, to do with housing and economics,
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Oh, they're substands by the government, that's why.
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Rupert Lowe, who again is doing the Lord's work.
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We are the Rupert Lowe fan club over at the Lotus Eaters, good man.
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Since 2007, 2008, because he put in a question in Parliament,
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he's using his daily allowance, to find out social housing by nationality.
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Since 2007 to 2008, 440,788 non-UK lead tenants accessed new social housing lettings.
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How is it that half a million foreigners can get social housing paid for by me?
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And someone has actually replied to him with the graphic from Neil O'Brien and Robert Jenrick's report,
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72% of Somalians are just here at your expense.
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Like, Turkey's not like some sort of third world country.
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Shockingly, the French and the Italians have a remarkably good work ethic.
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Well, it's because they're fleeing their own land, being absolutely deracinated by mass immigration.
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I just never, like, the Germans being twice as lazy as the French on this one.
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I get the feeling there just aren't that many Greeks, to be honest.
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Rupert Lowe got some more stats as well after this.
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In 2023 to 2024, there were 33,075 non-UK-born lead tenants accessing new social housing lettings.
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That also doesn't mean second generation, by the way, because we don't have the data on that yet.
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I just feel like getting a free house over in Spain.
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I just want the Spanish government to give me a house in Spain.
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Well, it will benefit their economy because they factor in state spending as a percentage of GDP.
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Yeah, and another reform MP who's actually doing some good stuff as well is James McMurdoch.
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He just decided to share this map, created by Neil O'Brien, by the way.
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Social renting households were head of household was born outside the UK.
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Well, it's half of all London social housing goes to foreigners.
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We can't be paying for the world to come and live with us.
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Ah, but have you not seen that Sunder Katwala, former head of Fabian Society, by the way.
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Otherwise, you're suggesting two-tier citizenship by birth or ethnicity and treating those who
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arrived in 1948, 1968, 1999, and those who become citizens after six years of new arrivals
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makes a dramatic difference to the percentage if you do that.
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I am actually treating that as two-tier citizenship.
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I'm sorry, but your piece of paper means nothing to me, Sunder.
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It's like, right, the government is literally going to rubber-stamp citizenship as quickly
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as they can for millions and millions of people.
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Like, in the last five years, it was six million people.
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Yeah, it's just like, oh, yeah, but you've got control for that.
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These people are foreign-born people that our traitorous government has just...
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Let's just literally say, no, we'll give you everything that the country has to offer
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So, you'd think that if we're battery-farming Mohammeds at my expense,
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that's not in exaggerations, literally government policies.
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the Spectator have done a review of a brand new play.
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Muslim playwright thinks Yorkshire is headed for civil war.
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People in Yorkshire are like, what the hell's going on?
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Everyone's like, why would Yorkshire be headed for civil war?
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is trying to keep her family together after her son, Raheel,
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was outed as a rape suspect by a national newspaper.
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White thugs dump parcels of excrement on their porch
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which causes local bus services to be cancelled.
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Every Muslim in town is terrified of a white vigilante gang
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who recently targeted a blameless Yemeni prisoner
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but the heavy-handed cops arrest ten innocent Muslims
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The useless cops arrest three of the white rioters
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because academia is full of right-wing extremists.