The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - December 10, 2024


The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1060


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 31 minutes

Words per Minute

179.2405

Word Count

16,482

Sentence Count

6

Misogynist Sentences

9

Hate Speech Sentences

46


Summary

In a triumph of wisdom and experience over youthful exuberance, the lotus eaters discuss the censorship industrial complex, the rollout of the digitalids, and the truth teller, Mariana Spring. Also, it's the last chance to hang out with Syrian refugees before they all start flooding home.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 hello and welcome to podcast of the lotus eaters episode 1006 no 1060 uh it is the 10th of december
00:00:17.040 2024 and in a triumph of wisdom and experience over youthful exuberance you have me and beau
00:00:23.240 today all right how you doing yes so this should be uh this should be a popular episode with the
00:00:29.980 dazzle and entertain you now uh today we're going to be discussing the um industrial um censorship
00:00:36.120 complex the um the rollout of the digital ids it is finally here yippee and how it is your last
00:00:43.140 opportunity to hang out with syrian refugees before they all start flooding home um which will be yes
00:00:49.520 i'm sure happening soon uh some announcements right you can buy a gift subscription on our website now
00:00:56.160 so this is especially useful because it is christmas and for those of you who have loved
00:01:00.420 ones you can upgrade your loved ones by giving them a subscription to this which will make them more
00:01:05.720 lovable presumably so um excellent good news on that um and with that let's get into the uh
00:01:13.620 censorship industrial complex bow okay i want to ask the question as i have done before and
00:01:19.780 no doubt shall do again what is the cost of liars even liars by omission can be a disastrous cost
00:01:30.180 i suppose it depends if you get caught or if you control the entire media and educational landscape
00:01:37.220 yeah so there used to be a monopoly on that sort of thing by the corporate mainstream media what we
00:01:46.020 might now call the legacy media i'm embarrassed for things i used to believe back when you only had
00:01:52.460 one point of view given to you all right yeah you can't really blame the vast majority of people
00:01:56.380 i mean especially if you go back to earlier in the 20th century you just had the radio and it told you
00:02:02.260 one narrative and unless you travel to that place in the world to see it with your own eyeballs
00:02:06.780 you had no way of questioning it really we just don't live in that world anymore and uh the powers that
00:02:13.040 be are not happy with the fact that their monopolies sliding out of their grip um because there are
00:02:21.580 things in the world more valuable than money
00:02:23.480 see the cogs working for a venture capitalist bear with me oh yeah family and all that sort of stuff
00:02:32.720 well yeah right yes yeah well life and time yes but but information knowledge knowledge is power
00:02:40.020 information uh gordon greco said the most valuable commodity is information um and so we are in a
00:02:47.900 sort of an information war aren't we a war for the truth the truth is more valuable than money in my
00:02:53.420 opinion i'd rather have my integrity than than be extraordinarily rich well the truth is powerful for
00:03:02.180 people like us who aren't really benefiting from the current system but you can understand why the
00:03:09.600 people who do benefit from the current system would be very interested in maintaining the narrative or
00:03:14.580 the lie if your job was um like mariana spring if your job was to pretend to be the arbiter of truth
00:03:23.480 yeah pretend to verify what isn't in isn't true i did and even if that led you to peddling
00:03:30.300 misinformation or false information or even outright lies as she did in the case of carl benjamin i hope
00:03:35.540 i'm not ruining your segment here but i don't know if you've put this in your in your links but
00:03:40.340 somebody did do a look at the percentage of lies on her show as opposed to the bbc in general right
00:03:46.620 and she basically has more lies per episode than the than just the normal bbc which is funny
00:03:51.840 considering that she's supposed to be the truth teller yeah odd yeah um i was going to leave it to
00:03:56.760 right to the end to the cherry on top but why not just say it now i mean we know for a fact
00:04:00.120 for a fact she's lied about carl on the very first episode um she said he went to top ness in
00:04:07.660 2019 for his mep campaign and she said that he then returned he didn't that he returned like some
00:04:16.100 sort of pied piper of top ness and converted half the uh half the town or whatever to to radical he
00:04:23.040 radicalized them it's just not true yes i mean if he could do that we would send him there
00:04:27.620 um apparently when he asked her about it on twitter she just blocked him and when he tried
00:04:33.320 to go through the channels on the bbc to launch a complaint they just said no it's true end of story
00:04:37.920 yeah because a green councillor told us but they're they're the arbiters of truth are they
00:04:43.860 they verify for you what is or isn't true or real nonsense nonsense we live in a new age where it's up to
00:04:53.020 individual people to source their own information and make value judgments for themselves about it
00:04:58.840 that's a much more difficult thing it was passive before right you turn on the radio or you turn on
00:05:03.380 the the telly box and you get told something and you accept it that's very very passive that's easy
00:05:09.840 well i'm afraid the information war is more complex than that now
00:05:14.660 um so i'm interested in sort of the nature of of truth and the nature of this conflict we're involved
00:05:22.620 in um i wrote an article uh back in what's this first one 2020 there with me yeah oh there's one
00:05:31.900 from 20 where's the where's the map okay so this first one
00:05:36.820 in 2023 i wrote an article about uh creepy joe's war on truth because it was quite obvious wasn't
00:05:45.280 it that we're uh that they just lied to us in all sorts of different ways um in disgusting ways
00:05:51.300 really perverting history perverting um just just all sorts of stuff um here's an even older one
00:06:00.740 from summer 2021 um we all know we've all lived through it right and i talk about in the past
00:06:08.940 where there's been regimes whether it be the dictatorship of demission or nero or the soviet
00:06:16.020 era or under mal throughout the centuries there's been many many examples of regimes where you're
00:06:21.940 either not allowed to know the truth or you're told a falsehood and and you probably even know it's
00:06:29.700 not true a bit like in 1984 but you have to pretend it's true
00:06:33.860 i think zizek once gave a quite interesting example where he said uh the idea that when a child knows
00:06:43.360 that santa isn't real anymore spoiler alert any children out there santa isn't real anymore the
00:06:48.680 parents know the kid knows and yet they both parties keep up the pretense that santa is real
00:06:54.120 right the idea like in the soviet union you all you know the system doesn't work you know there's
00:06:59.680 the economy has collapsed or is collapsing but yet the state insists you pretend it isn't
00:07:04.240 they know you know it's broken they insist you keep up the pretense everyone knows what's going on
00:07:10.200 and yet there's this edifice of liars i mean i would give a modern example but there are too many to
00:07:14.360 pick from right there are a lot aren't there in recent times particularly and anyway it now seems
00:07:21.200 there is well there is now a censorship industrial complex a giant thing very very well funded largely
00:07:31.000 for america but not exclusively from the united states britain is among the other big players in
00:07:35.760 this whole thing of um lots and lots of money and lots and lots of infrastructure infrastructure
00:07:42.160 around quote-unquote battling misinformation or disinformation when in fact the irony is that
00:07:50.080 they're the peddlers largely of misinformation or disinformation just like bbc verify well and
00:07:54.240 when you say it's big again i don't i don't want to uh i don't well i mean this is such a big topic
00:07:58.400 and i'm i think i can safely say this without jumping on whatever you might have coming next but
00:08:03.720 it really is a massive and industrial complex and um dr parveni looked at this a while back where he
00:08:12.240 tracked it back from basically the entire propaganda apparatus from world war ii was basically taken and
00:08:18.480 immediately deployed at home without skipping a beat and the funding that went into artists who
00:08:27.440 promoted the right kind of message i mean it basically goes far further than you would have
00:08:33.040 thought and quite possibly it goes back significantly further than that as well it's just that you know
00:08:37.900 that was where he picked up the trail from but it's a massive i mean hundreds of billions get thrown
00:08:43.040 at promoting the right people to push the right messages and so on well i mean state propaganda has
00:08:48.520 been around for as long as there's been a state right i mean going back to ancient times i suppose
00:08:53.120 you could say uh but yeah certainly in the post-war world war ii that is i'll talk about all that in a
00:08:58.480 moment but yeah the the big there are the biggest institutions are behind it like the state department
00:09:04.800 and the pentacon and the intelligence services and things uh and funded by the state in all sorts of
00:09:12.960 ways so um uh i mean we're interested in sort of thing we did a bit of uh uh content uh when was it
00:09:21.600 in november last year yeah in november last year you and me had a conversation about the book
00:09:26.400 confessions of an economic hitman that was a good episode that i thought it was i thought it was an
00:09:30.160 excellent conversation anyone uh who hasn't subscribed if you're watching this on lotus on
00:09:34.320 uh youtube go over to lotusseeters.com for as small as five pounds a month you can uh see everything
00:09:40.080 behind the paywall and there's a very interesting conversation there where we talk about this guy's
00:09:43.200 book confessions of an economic hitman largely talking about the 60s and 70s isn't it and into the 80s
00:09:49.840 um about how the american empire because let's call it what it is um it's obviously not the same as an
00:09:57.920 old school 18th 19th century british empire or a medieval or no in any way anyways it's smarter than
00:10:04.160 that well they saw the way the british empire went the american sisters when they be when they became
00:10:11.360 the colossus of the world after world war ii straddled the world like a colossus they realized that if
00:10:16.320 they're going to be the dominant force the hegemon of the world and keep it for any amount of time they
00:10:21.920 can't do it the way the british empire did it they can't do it the way the mongols the romans
00:10:26.400 did it it doesn't work you end up with something like the british raj in india and eventually
00:10:32.400 they'll throw you off and throw you out so there's more than one way to skin a cat though you can do
00:10:37.760 it through money debt you can do it debt you do it through so-called soft power i don't particularly
00:10:43.040 like that term but yeah most people know what's what is meant by it i mean for the viewers the very
00:10:47.360 short version of the book is that yes the the us empire will use its aircraft carriers and beach
00:10:54.880 landings and all the rest of it to get its way if it really wants to but actually most of the work
00:10:59.760 is cleaned up a long time before that with the economic hitman let us i mean let us america or
00:11:09.440 the international monetary fund or the world bank let us loan you an insane amount of money
00:11:15.040 you then spend that money with our companies we'll build infrastructure in your country yes and the
00:11:21.520 net result of all of that is that we essentially control you yeah i mean and if you don't we'll
00:11:27.200 send in uh cia kill teams and if that doesn't work we'll send in the marines and aircraft carriers
00:11:32.240 yeah that's the deal yeah in a nutshell and and and and i mean when we say america we don't mean
00:11:37.120 you know the nice people who listen to this we're talking about you know a small handful of leaks
00:11:41.280 because this money never leaves america it basically goes straight from um the the central bank well the uh
00:11:48.240 the treasury where it's um you know loaned to them by the central bank straight to the big defense
00:11:53.360 contractors it it never leaves it's basically just recycling debt burden on some other country so
00:12:00.960 that money goes straight to the lobbyists of the people who agreed to send the money in the first
00:12:05.120 place and maybe a dam or two or an airfield or two gets built yeah in venezuela or wherever most of
00:12:11.440 which isn't particularly useful and most of which is built i mean all the roads are not built for
00:12:15.920 the convenience of the locals they're built to make sure the resources can be extracted sent
00:12:21.200 to the nearest port and then shipped to the us right so that's a that's a new way of doing empire
00:12:28.480 isn't it yes you don't necessarily have like an actual raj type situation but it's all intents and
00:12:34.880 purposes in this you're very happy for the local elites to get obscenely rich as well yeah so you kind
00:12:41.760 of do have the raj they've got to have a piece yeah but but the the ultimate thing of empire is you
00:12:47.360 still get your tribute right yeah so okay i just that was just a bit of an aside um but yeah what you
00:12:58.000 talked about a moment ago the idea that um that there's foreign intel the the intelligence services to
00:13:05.200 deal with foreign affairs the blowback is turned on america itself so the idea that during the cold war
00:13:15.040 you could use uh media outlets the war of words in the in the eastern block or countries close to the
00:13:23.920 eastern block or any other country that's up for grabs um use media outlets and all sorts of other
00:13:30.960 uh organs to manipulate public opinion and and get what you want ultimately well what about if that
00:13:40.880 was turned on america itself that the intelligence services manipulated media in order to manipulate
00:13:50.640 public opinion for their own ends in america i mean given that they very explicitly and britain and
00:13:56.160 france and germany and italy yeah given that they very explicitly say that this is what they do
00:13:59.920 in order to advance us interests in other countries if they develop that skill set it does
00:14:05.440 seem a bit of a stretch to believe that they would never use it at home in order to advance
00:14:10.160 of interests there as well right i know that's very illegal for them to do but i can't believe they
00:14:15.520 wouldn't do it well the cia for example is is foreign intelligence isn't it it's not supposed to
00:14:21.520 really do anything in the united states or act against us uh citizens unless they say it's counter
00:14:28.960 espionage in which case they do need to work within the united states there's there's they they can do
00:14:36.160 what they want almost right so in the 70s in what 1975 or something um uh senator church had a committee
00:14:46.720 looking into what the cia was doing the church committee and uh he did uncover some bad things that
00:14:56.720 they were doing manipulating all sorts of things and at the time the cia sort of said okay we'll stop
00:15:03.760 we'll stop doing that then now they had an operation mockingbird most people will know that you can
00:15:09.280 there's a wikipedia page you can read about mockingbird it's a matter of record um this was their operations to
00:15:16.400 delve to use the mainstream media to manipulate public opinion um in this article i wrote in summer of last
00:15:25.040 last year i said that we're still living in the shadow of mockingbird because although the cia said
00:15:30.800 they would stop doing it they obviously didn't stop doing it and with the advent of the internet and
00:15:37.120 social media and things they're just they're just elbow deep in that aren't they as well obviously
00:15:44.000 uh one classic example is the hunter biden laptop yeah so i'd actually like to read a bit from my
00:15:52.880 article if that's all right yeah go ahead i just said um remember that time when joe biden told the
00:15:58.880 world hunter's laptop was a russian plant a foreign misinformation stratagem and as if to prove that
00:16:04.160 assertion he reminded us that more than 50 former senior intelligence officials had signed their name
00:16:08.560 to an open letter confirming it as such remember that senior intelligence officials including many of
00:16:13.760 the most powerful and connected spooks the deep state could muster and they are sort of them that
00:16:19.200 there are sort of the most important ones people that have led the cia or their chiefs of staff
00:16:24.560 and and other people names like james clapper um so i say of of course uh we know the laptop was real
00:16:33.440 like giuliani had it independently checked almost straight away it's not it's not well the the other
00:16:38.800 big clue of course is that um hunter biden has just been pied and pardoned for the crimes that were on
00:16:44.160 that laptop which 51 informal intelligence agents told us was made up okay well why has he been
00:16:50.320 pardoned for it then one of the arguments they make is they say that well okay so the information
00:16:57.120 on it might be real or something but it was the the story that this the laptop from hell was peddled
00:17:03.600 by russian sources russian russian media sources therefore if you amplify that you're then in
00:17:09.840 collusion with the russians in some way and you're a threat to democracy that is a very torturous logic
00:17:14.960 yeah yeah yeah well this is what we'll get into the way that that exact argument has been
00:17:20.720 is is is being used now that if you question the mainstream media if you question the legitimacy of
00:17:27.680 new york times or something then you're you're a threat to democracy so yeah um
00:17:39.680 i say for those old enough and savvy enough it will come as no shock whatsoever that the
00:17:43.840 intelligence services and the corporate mainstream media often work in concert against the public
00:17:49.040 that a savage savage and vicious shadow government in direct partnership with particular media outlets
00:17:55.040 in an effort to manipulate the perception of reality for nefarious reasons it is a revealed
00:18:00.560 truth which has been with us since the 1970s and then i talk about uh senator church's uh committee
00:18:07.360 on it and there were others there was the pike committee and the rockefeller commission
00:18:11.360 um all sorts of things they are they uncovered mk ultra among other things operation shamrock and
00:18:16.800 operation mockingbird um and uh and as i say here as you mentioned what aa has said it goes back to
00:18:24.240 the war yeah ever since the oss and the dullest years um and there was a fairly famous most people
00:18:32.000 probably haven't heard of him but if you know about the history of the cia fairly famous cia operative
00:18:36.480 frank wisner who talked about this sort of thing and he talked about the great world it's a world it's
00:18:43.280 just a very old-fashioned word for a jukebox ah okay he talked about the great world it's uh that they
00:18:50.480 the cia the intelligence services the deep state the blob whatever you want to call it they pick the
00:18:55.360 tune right they press the button on the jukebox and everyone else has to dance to that tune right
00:19:02.000 and and they had to come let's say they had a complete monopoly on it back then
00:19:06.160 you know not so much i mean they had a really good run yeah they could yeah they had a good run all right
00:19:11.600 yeah so now is is the world it's coming to a stop or there's just more than one
00:19:18.560 being played at the same time i mentioned that um whether actually a cia front or simply being
00:19:25.840 manipulated and used for various points by the intelligence services the new york times the new
00:19:32.240 york post washington post cbs time magazine newsweek alan dulles used to be able to call up
00:19:38.640 editors certain editors at time magazine or cbs or something and just say i've got this narrative
00:19:44.880 i've got this story get one of your guys it can't come from me it can't it's not it's all hush hush
00:19:50.720 it doesn't come directly from the cia but get one of your guys to write this story with this angle
00:19:55.920 and publish it and they'll just be like yes sir i i suspect it's been formalized to the point where
00:20:01.760 a whole bunch of journalists within these organizations have a sort of direct contact
00:20:06.800 at the intelligence agencies and it's perhaps why whenever news breaks on a sort of geopolitical
00:20:13.760 bent over the weekend nowadays you mean yeah nowadays yeah nowadays when it stopped yeah when news breaks
00:20:20.400 over the weekend um the news anchors don't know what to do with it until monday morning when their um
00:20:27.120 government um three letter agency contact comes back to their desk and gives them the line to take
00:20:33.280 well we know for a fact there's a liaison between the fbi and facebook for example
00:20:37.840 yes don't we or when uh elon's twitter papers yeah the twitter files yeah twitter files
00:20:42.800 yeah yeah and yeah and there's that thing where you get um all the different mainstream media outlets
00:20:48.960 saying the exact same thing in fact i say here ever wondered how it is possible for so many news
00:20:52.640 outlets with completely different owners and editorial teams to wind up spewing the exact
00:20:57.520 same message you know like the walls are closing in on trump closing in on trump the walls are closing
00:21:02.160 in on you get you get those compilations where they overlay like 50 of them at once the exact same
00:21:06.320 thing yeah yeah yeah how is that possible how did so many of the mainstream media just all decide that
00:21:14.160 oh yeah the hunter laptop thing is real and anyone questioning it is a is a is a russian plant
00:21:20.160 and uh oh look here's all these intelligence guys saying it so it must be true almost like there's
00:21:24.720 a puppet master somewhere well there was a very interesting podcast i thought about a week ago
00:21:34.800 joe rogan with mike benz three hour one very very very interesting one of the more interesting joe
00:21:40.800 rogan podcasts i've seen in a long time and um he used to work at the state department and he said he
00:21:46.160 wrote a few speeches for trump i almost got him on brokonomics but he because he was in london for
00:21:50.960 a while but scheduling didn't allow it in the end i'd like to have a conversation with him yeah be
00:21:55.920 fascinating um yeah absolutely um he put a bit more meat on the bones because my article sort of
00:22:02.880 stops talking about the old sss stuff and mockingbird and then just saying it's still happening today
00:22:09.760 and then i sort of leave it there it wasn't a particularly long article but he puts a lot more
00:22:13.280 meat on the bones of what's going on these days um and it is sort of extremely worrying
00:22:22.560 the idea that in the early days of the ukraine stuff 2014 that yeah they were just doing the same
00:22:30.160 old thing the intelligence services i'm manipulating okay public public uh public uh perception in ukraine
00:22:40.320 for ukrainians but then when the trump thing happened in 2016 it flipped over to we use it
00:22:47.920 internally in america to stop trump yes he's got this great bit on the convoluted logic that they
00:22:54.960 used in their own minds to justify it even it's blatantly illegal it's blatantly against it's obvious
00:23:02.480 that they should not be doing this they managed to twist it so that their definition of democracy
00:23:07.040 basically became what they and their friends think well yeah it's the idea that um any threat to their
00:23:14.480 institutions or their assets yes whether that be the actual building at langley or the zelensky
00:23:24.400 government whatever it is anything that's a threat to those things then um that's a threat to democracy
00:23:31.440 i think i think the logic was something like that all of these organizations these deep state
00:23:36.640 organizations exist as a result of having been put there by previous democratic mandates
00:23:42.960 so it's a it's a well of democracy bound up in them like carbon in a bloody oak tree or something
00:23:50.960 that means that it's more democratic than things like elections that was something like the logic yeah
00:23:57.360 yeah yeah well um mike ben's was saying that their their rationale for it their reasoning their
00:24:03.200 argument goes that democracy isn't really the will of the people at the ballot box it's the institutions
00:24:09.520 of the state that yes that was it yeah that and obviously that's nonsense right um uh but yeah so
00:24:16.480 uh news media big science universities government itself anything that threatens those things
00:24:23.360 that's a quote-unquote threat to democracy populism itself you can't be allowed to vote for the wrong
00:24:30.880 person you can't vote in favor of a brexit or a frexit yeah you can't vote you shouldn't be able to vote
00:24:38.880 for trump because he's a quote-unquote threat to democracy um so anyway can we play uh samson if you
00:24:46.560 teed it up to the timestamp bit i said it looks like you have um if you just if we watch just two or
00:24:52.880 three four minutes of this i think it's one of the most interesting bits especially with your nose
00:24:58.000 open no that's that's fantastic so so a few things as background arizona state university its current
00:25:04.080 president um michael crowe was is is now and was since the day it was born in 1999 the chairman of
00:25:12.160 incutel incutel is the cia's venture capital arm this is literally the cia's proprietary investments
00:25:19.600 in early stage technology companies and the arizona state university its president is the
00:25:25.120 chairman of incutel and has been for 25 years arizona state university has these very deep
00:25:30.560 partnerships with john mccain who was the senator from arizona john mccain who ran for president against
00:25:36.480 barack obama in 2008 was the before he ran for president in 2008 for 25 years he was the founder
00:25:44.240 and the president of the iri the cia wing of the republican party again the iri is that is the gop
00:25:51.760 side of the of the national endowment for democracy that's effectively self-declared cia cutout
00:25:57.680 and in fact arizona state university has a john mccain center on disinformation that that uh that works
00:26:04.240 in tandem with this one but i just wanted to show that you'll see this is technically it's arizona state
00:26:08.480 university but you'll see that it is an intelligence program so if you if you scroll up for a second
00:26:12.720 you'll see you'll see at the bottom right this is a program at arizona state university
00:26:18.560 that is an intelligence program its job is to assist the intelligence community with this
00:26:23.920 with this work and you'll if you scroll down and you can scroll down from here you'll see the
00:26:28.480 different branches and then click on the one narrative disinformation strategic influence
00:26:32.480 now this this program gets one has a 1.6 million dollar grant from the pentagon to do censorship work
00:26:40.880 it has 300 000 in grants from the state department it's got another almost 500 000 worth of additional
00:26:47.840 government grants from adjacent uh adjacent u.s government diplomatic statecraft intelligence
00:26:53.840 folks so so this is this is a multi-million dollar sent a censorship center currently still up and running
00:27:02.400 at arizona state university funded by us now if you click on why is disinformation dangerous i want to
00:27:07.680 show you something real quick because this language is everywhere this is stock standard language why do
00:27:13.600 we have this set up disinformation sows confusion and distrust diminishing people's faith and confidence
00:27:20.800 in the institutions that are critical to a functioning healthy democracy such as government news media and
00:27:26.800 science i'm going to pause right there the dirty tricks that this is laden with is what allows them to get
00:27:34.640 away with this so note that they are saying that they have set up this apparatus and we can get it i can
00:27:43.040 show you the different projects they're involved with on the censorship side but the the issue they're saying
00:27:48.720 is not that something's wrong but that people's the the simple act of diminishing public faith and confidence
00:27:58.880 in the news media government and science is an attack on democracy this is the identical language
00:28:07.280 that there you go it goes it's a brilliant it's a really very very interesting podcast uh slightly
00:28:12.960 interesting that he talks about everything from james angleton to barisma but doesn't mention israel once
00:28:18.800 but nonetheless um it's very very very interesting lots and lots of very very interesting stuff there
00:28:24.960 um and yeah he talks a fair bit about um the atlantic council there you go it's organizes organizations
00:28:35.760 like this which most people haven't really heard of but in fact pull all sorts of leave levers all over
00:28:41.360 the world um ned another very very important oh national endowment for democracy yeah very very very
00:28:55.120 important yeah apparently they get more funding than the cia these people really yeah yeah silly amounts
00:29:02.000 of money um there you go there's again it's all a matter of record not making any of this up it's all
00:29:07.600 there all there in black and white in cutel yeah match made in hell so i mean presumably they're
00:29:12.720 one of the color of revolutions yeah it's exactly the sort of thing they do yeah exactly and then
00:29:17.760 it's just been turned on to america and so now and so now we live in a world the irony of it the
00:29:24.320 misinformation and disinformation projects are the ones that are actually peddling the most pernicious
00:29:31.200 and nefarious misinformation and disinformation and lies by omission and censorship and the whole nine yards
00:29:38.160 net result of it is we end up with something like bbc verifier and mariana spring obviously
00:29:44.720 just a shill telling us what is and isn't true even though you immediately know from podcast one
00:29:51.520 that they're lying yes i've got i've got no integrity whatsoever
00:29:58.320 uh but but but she knows she's the arbiter of truth for you she knows what she is
00:30:03.520 there you go she'll tell you what is or isn't real okay so trump's so just uh hopefully that was
00:30:13.200 interesting for people whether trump will be able to dismantle so that was one of the one of the things
00:30:17.600 that joe and mayak also talked about whether trump's gonna because hopefully if trump says he's gonna
00:30:22.800 do what he says try and dismantle a lot of this or as much as of this as possible um obviously cut
00:30:30.160 their funding is the first thing and try and dismantle this because it's relatively i mean
00:30:36.480 in one sense it's been around since forever in other sense it's mainly been around since world war ii
00:30:41.600 but in a big way it's only been around since 2014 2016 a lot of that most recent edifice of it
00:30:49.200 isn't that old and maybe it's possible to sweep it away and go back to like because if you try and
00:30:54.560 cut the funding for the cia i mean there'll be all sorts of hoo-ha about that and people have an image
00:30:58.960 of it because it's in the movies all the time but if you just cut the funding to the national endowment
00:31:02.560 for democracy who's who's gonna who's gonna want to die on that hill or just like a break up um uh the
00:31:10.880 atlantic council yeah just say oh well no that that's that's a subversive thing it's not in the
00:31:17.280 interests of the interest of these united states to to let that exist anymore that is an interesting
00:31:23.200 point because so much of the iceberg is below water at this point that you could get there's
00:31:27.040 a lot of it you could go after without actually causing that much waves well jimmy carter uh just
00:31:32.720 fired like a third of the cia in one day once you know that based yeah so um and they didn't shoot
00:31:40.400 him in the head in public in texas did they no he didn't get reelected though but yeah yeah they still
00:31:46.320 tried to undermine him at every possible turn yeah but there you go i hope uh i think it is
00:31:51.040 very very interesting the the uh censorship industrial complex that we now live with
00:31:56.880 and whether it will be able to be confronted properly and ultimately defeated uh we shall see
00:32:03.360 time will tell right so let's talk about the rollout of the uk digital id which is now starting
00:32:10.640 in britain but before i do that i think i might quickly um just refer to my bible yes i think i
00:32:18.400 might go revelations chapter 13 uh verses 16 and 17 which go they forced everyone to receive the mark
00:32:26.320 on the hand people great or small rich or poor had to receive the mark they could not buy or sell
00:32:33.120 anything unless they had the mark the mark is the name of the beast and the number is his name
00:32:38.080 now you have to remember that that god was dictating this to to john in the year 95 bc so
00:32:46.560 everything that everything that god said back then might not have gotten written down um entirely
00:32:53.200 accurately i'm sure god meant to say um you will have a mark on your handheld device rather than your
00:32:58.880 hand as i imagine you uh speaking from the king james translation so it was also in the age of king
00:33:05.360 james the early 17th century who's translated into english for us yes from the word of god maybe
00:33:10.880 maybe in the ancient hebrew he does say you'll be forced to have a mark on your handheld device
00:33:14.720 i'm not sure but um but yeah so so um god who's he's obviously quite a smart chap has been warning
00:33:20.640 us about this for for over 2 000 years and uh in the year of our lord 2024 uh it it has arrived so um this
00:33:29.360 article um from the sunday times um yes so basically they're gonna their their excuse here
00:33:37.040 is that digital id is going to be rolled out for pubs and clubs um let me just pick out a few choice
00:33:43.840 bits from the article uh pubgoers will be able to use their smartphone to prove their age as part of
00:33:49.040 plans uh introduced by the government for digital ids ministers are preparing the change of law for
00:33:55.120 customers to buy alcohol in shops and bars as they embrace the technical revolution uh moving the
00:34:00.960 state to more online functionality people will be able to use this for everything from paying taxes to
00:34:06.960 opening a bank account all right or being denied those things well yes um i think the bank account
00:34:14.080 part is is is particularly uh key for for my story here officials insist that digital verification
00:34:20.800 will not be compulsory people will still have a choice uh yes for now i'm sure yeah yes yes for
00:34:26.320 now so okay so we got that so so the uh reason we need digital ids is because otherwise people
00:34:32.720 who are 17 might buy some alcohol and and that's why they've spent all the billions of dollars on uh
00:34:39.040 billions of pounds on putting together digital ids okay so that's even though we already have
00:34:43.840 a number of versions of non-digital id like a passport or a driver's license or whatever
00:34:49.920 uh well you see your thing is you're you're you're raising a different issue there but it's all
00:34:55.040 right they've got extra excuses so um let's look at uh what they have to say on this um cheery cartoon
00:35:02.480 illustrated uh video with with music in the background from the government on why we need them
00:35:09.360 it can be particularly difficult for people who don't have passports or driving licenses or have
00:35:13.280 incomplete credit histories so it's the job of digital government to join things up and make life
00:35:17.680 easier for users our vision is to remove unnecessary complexity by developing one inclusive and
00:35:23.280 accessible way for people to log in to all government services online an easy way to prove
00:35:27.920 their identity just once that also gives them control over who has access to their data
00:35:32.560 and why we want so there you go oh it's for us it's in aid of us it's to make things easier
00:35:38.160 yeah you see but what happens is the elite the elites they wake up every morning just drenched in
00:35:43.680 in a cold sweat worried that our lives are slightly inconvenient because we might have to enter a
00:35:49.920 password twice if we're if we're going to different websites and they're desperately concerned about
00:35:54.640 that and they want to make our lives so much more convenient but they've gone to the trouble of
00:35:58.800 creating digital ids so that we don't have to be inconvenienced well thank you sir tony yes and
00:36:05.840 and also to make 17 make sure 17 yards don't buy a beer so anyway uh that's the excuse um i'm sure
00:36:13.280 that i'm sure that's the oh no actually here look we've got it we've got another excuse here this
00:36:17.840 is this is this is why tony blair used to think we needed them to remove unnecessary barriers not
00:36:23.440 essential safeguards we've got that we've got that much more easily protected so you can deal with a lot
00:36:29.920 of the privacy and surveillance issues that worry people but it's a it's a natural evolution of the way
00:36:35.360 that we're going to use technology in any event to transact daily life and this covert crisis gives
00:36:40.320 an additional reason for doing that because look i could be wrong about this but when i look at for
00:36:44.240 example how you restart some businesses how you restart international travel i think people's disease
00:36:50.240 status for example have they been tested what is the result of that test and have they had the disease
00:36:55.040 do they have the disease i think unless you're able to record some of this data in a way that people
00:36:59.520 can use it's going to be difficult to go back to anything like a a near normal in things like
00:37:05.920 like like transport oh right okay dirty lying son of a bitch filth what filth well you don't accept
00:37:16.080 that argument that the reason that the third reason that we need digital ids is so that you can prove that
00:37:21.120 you haven't got a disease that is a so asymptomatic that you wouldn't know if you didn't have
00:37:27.760 yeah how on earth would the world go round how did how did it work before we had things like uh
00:37:36.240 digital ids and things how how did anything ever work he used i've wrote an article about this before
00:37:42.080 that he used blair used this line of argument all the time that look it's just going to happen yes
00:37:48.080 it is inevitable this is the future we cannot question that that is unquestionable so let's just
00:37:54.080 do it let's just go with it he always uses that argument yes always yes the millennium dome is
00:38:00.400 going to be built so just get behind it we are going to have to slaughter all our cattle so let's
00:38:05.200 just do it you are going to be locked in your homes um until you accept my my because of course he he's
00:38:11.280 wanted id for a very long time it's one of his babies do you remember back in 2000 he tried to get
00:38:16.240 the id cards and back then it was directed because people was like well what's the point i mean what why
00:38:21.200 are you are you prepared to arrest old ladies who go to the shops and forget their id card no well
00:38:26.480 it's just gonna it's just gonna be a pointless duplication of what we've already got then so
00:38:31.040 what's the point so so it was it was a very rare l for tony blair he's like one the one well there's
00:38:39.200 not many things he didn't get pushed through because he's such a skillful politician but he got basically
00:38:43.600 everything apart from id and that one loss has haunted him all these years so during covid the logic was
00:38:50.320 was whatever i tried to explain something something like you wouldn't know if you've got this illness
00:38:55.840 because it's asymptomatic so the only way that you can know is if you've got a digital id or something
00:39:00.880 like that anyway he's changed his tune now he's now saying that the reason you need digital ids
00:39:07.920 is because uh you can deport illegal immigrants with them yes that's the logic because apparently
00:39:14.880 nobody has ever deported anyone in the past before we had digital ids doesn't help them stopping them
00:39:20.960 from coming in in the first place though well and presumably it wouldn't help us then immediately
00:39:25.440 putting them on a bus and taking them to a four-star hotel but for some reason if there's a digital id
00:39:31.360 in place then we'd be able to deport them whereas now we can't it's just nonsense yes obvious nonsense
00:39:39.280 but the thing is right people are going to fall for that line of logic because he because what he
00:39:45.040 does is he crafts his argument to whatever the issue of the day is and he has noticed that people
00:39:50.640 are a little bit miffed about the millions and millions of immigrations being rammed down our
00:39:54.880 throat and there are people who will hear that and and go with in fact i put i put a tweet up about
00:40:00.640 that news that they're rolling they're finally beginning the rollout of the digital ids and the first
00:40:05.440 comment back was somebody who said to me uh how did he put it he said um yeah this is long overdue
00:40:14.240 and necessary id cards mean we can start deporting illegal aliens i mean yeah but there are my point
00:40:24.880 is there are people who will swallow this anyway so that's uh that's a couple well what are we up to
00:40:29.280 now three excuses or no that was four excuses from the uk as to why we need them um let's look
00:40:35.200 at what uh the excuses are in australia next next video please
00:40:41.680 australians are happy to tap and go now the government wants them to tap and show what we
00:40:46.320 want to do is make life easier allow your credentials to be at your fingertips and keep your personal
00:40:49.440 information safer a digital id called text it'll make life easier right the need to hand over passports
00:40:55.040 drivers licenses birth certificates for companies to store and too often lose to hackers the optus
00:41:00.400 incident one of the first and a large scale showed why we have to do things differently the information
00:41:04.160 will be heavily encrypted so no sensitive data is shared or stored using a qr code and a simple tap
00:41:09.840 to verify id for hotel bookings hiring cars signing up for phones and more this is real right okay so
00:41:16.080 it's so that you can hire a car and book a hotel room more conveniently and also because your data will
00:41:23.520 be safe because they're going to heavily encrypt it and no one will have access to it with the exception
00:41:28.560 of the entirety of government who are holding all of that data with the exception of the people that
00:41:32.720 do have access to yes which is like the government which are the people that i'm most worried about
00:41:40.960 so anyway it's so obvious it's so obvious what's going on though right it's not yes it's not that we're
00:41:46.080 particularly cynical or conspiracy theorist or anything it's obvious that it's uh it's to do with power
00:41:54.080 well i've got some more excuses let's just play this in the background um for for for those who
00:41:59.040 are watching uh you'll miss if you're listening it's it's this this is the european version of why
00:42:04.240 and and they wheel out a whole bunch of excuses using people of dubious um european ancestry uh to
00:42:11.280 make their point it's easier it's for you it's in aid of you you'll be able to do things online
00:42:16.160 easier but but they've got some they've got some nice graphics and a big eu flag so um you know
00:42:20.960 apparently that's the next selection of reasons as to why we um obviously need the thing you've got
00:42:27.680 to bear in mind with digital ids is they are massively central centralized the government gets
00:42:34.000 to decide what is or isn't truth and of course they can they can make changes to that at any time
00:42:39.680 they wish um with just a click of a button you know if they decide that you're no longer a british
00:42:45.040 citizen as you're flying back from the airport you know they they could make that change if they
00:42:48.640 want to make any other change um you know we've decided now that you don't own that house anymore
00:42:54.000 we just um yeah well look how the ccp use their their power yes it's like we're going to decide
00:43:01.760 basically what your credit rating is based on your actual day-to-day almost minute-to-minute behavior
00:43:07.120 yes and then you may or may not be able to get a mortgage or something on the back of that well i mean
00:43:13.520 they they will give total control yeah total control i mean you know they're saying is optional
00:43:18.800 of course it won't be for very long before long it'll be required to vote or you know access the
00:43:23.120 internet and all of those things um but i thought let's dig a little bit deeper into into into who is
00:43:29.120 requiring this now best i can tell it all kind of stems from the un um so the un have these uh what
00:43:35.920 what do they call them sustainable development um goals or sdgc's but they want every country to hit
00:43:43.200 by can you guess when 2030 2030 there's a whole bunch of things that every country in the world
00:43:49.760 because of course everyone's a member of the un um has to achieve and one of them quite prominently
00:43:54.960 actually is is digital ids so um go and have a look through the presentation if you want to dig into
00:44:01.520 the details of that don't have the time time here um the world economic forum um they are um
00:44:07.920 you know 100 behind this as well um and as klaus swab says um that they will require individuals to
00:44:14.880 be able to assert their identity in order to participate in the economy oh but the world
00:44:20.800 economic forum is just a collection of like-minded businessmen yes why are you being so paranoid dan
00:44:25.760 well they're just they're allowed to get together and talk about things and they haven't got any real power
00:44:30.160 well it's not just them you see i mean i i picked them most people have heard of them but um
00:44:36.160 there's plenty more organizations as well the bill and melinda gates foundation is all over this as
00:44:40.800 well um goodens that they are um and actually what i really want to focus on are the ones that i
00:44:48.480 mentioned next because i'm pretty sure this is where it's really all coming from um international
00:44:53.840 monetary fund the imf um the bank for international settlements bis yeah i know all about them and the
00:45:02.560 financial actions task force or fat f now a lot of people think that klaus swab is at the top of the
00:45:09.520 globalist order klaus swab is not at the top of the globalist order he is he i mean he's up there
00:45:15.280 you know he he's a high-ranking uh people that are listen to him and know him yeah yes but the i'm
00:45:22.720 telling you the final bosses of globalism are the ones that i've just mentioned it's the imf
00:45:27.920 it's the bis and it's fat f those those are the real top um top dogs of the whole globalist regime
00:45:35.840 um now uh say something super quick about the bank of international said yeah go ahead yeah a lot of
00:45:40.720 people will have heard of the international monetary fund or the world bank but even people that know a
00:45:46.240 bit about that usually haven't heard of uh bis yeah it's in uh it's in switzerland isn't it in um
00:45:53.440 sounds right yeah and um and they are if anything above yes the the international money fund and the
00:46:02.000 world bank if anything they're the big boss yeah that is that they are the final boss sort of in fact
00:46:06.960 let's let's hear from the head of the bis himself as to what their motivation might be
00:46:12.640 um well for those of you who were danger mouse fans back in the day i apologize if this given
00:46:18.800 you gives you baron silas flashbacks but um here we go let's hear from this guy god
00:46:26.080 for example in cash we don't know for example who's using a 100 dollar bill today we don't know
00:46:32.880 who is using the 1 000 peso bill today a key difference in with the cbdc is that central bank will have
00:46:42.640 absolute control on the rules and regulations that will determine the use of that expression
00:46:50.240 of central bank liability and also we will have the technology to enforce that now there you go
00:46:58.240 absolute control on the ability and the ability to enforce it there you go there it is yeah right
00:47:03.680 that's what we're talking about here absolutely not the ability for 17 year old not to buy a beer
00:47:08.960 or helping strengthen our borders know that so the money men will have quote absolute control
00:47:15.040 and the ability to enforce yes that's what it is and i've thrown in a couple of links there but if
00:47:19.680 you damn them if you just start looking at um the imf fat f and bis they've got dozens of blog posts
00:47:27.760 because they know that nobody reads them nobody pays attention to well apart from people like me
00:47:32.240 but nobody pays attention to them and they they just openly say that we want a central bank digital
00:47:38.160 currency the reason we want it is because it will give us absolute control over the money but we can't
00:47:43.680 have it until there are digital ids so they lean on the people beneath them the wefs and the unns and
00:47:49.920 all the rest of it and say we need digital ids rolled out i don't care how you get it done i don't
00:47:55.040 care what excuse you have to give you get digital ids done and then we can start rolling out our central
00:48:01.200 bank digital currencies and that will give us absolute control they they they they just don't
00:48:05.920 like they they come out and they just say it all the time they get their their shill whores to do it
00:48:11.920 like tone yeah yeah exactly exactly um yeah and it's all about basically maintaining the status quo of
00:48:19.040 the current financial system because they can see it's all slipping away from them
00:48:23.120 so i mean the voluntary adoption of these things has been awful mckinsey's did a study because i mean it's
00:48:29.760 been it's been rolled out in a whole bunch of countries digital ids like kenya and a whole
00:48:33.280 bunch of other ones i think there's been about 10 of them now um about four to ten percent of the
00:48:38.960 people went off of these did like digital ids take them so it's going to be like smart meters all over
00:48:44.720 again um you know a few people will have them just because of the novelty of it and the rest of them
00:48:49.680 you'll have to cajole and eventually start threatening until they they adopt it um we'll come round to your
00:48:56.240 house yes we'll put you under house arrest until you do it yes quite quite now people who think
00:49:05.040 that i'm being a little bit overblown about the whole this will lead to a social credit system
00:49:09.040 and total control um i'd just like to point out that not only does china have a social credit system
00:49:14.960 today but we've actually already had one in this country we had it very briefly and we had it very
00:49:20.320 half-heartedly but do you remember at the end of covid boris johnson was like okay now you need
00:49:25.200 a digital thing to be able to go to a nightclub and they they tried to roll it out with nightclubs
00:49:31.680 because they thought that will give them the least pushback and there was almighty pushback then
00:49:36.720 and it was just a bit half-hearted and they never kind of they just kind of backed off a vaccine
00:49:41.200 passport a vaccine passport yeah they they made the changes that you know you had to use it to get
00:49:46.000 into a nightclub and that was that was going to be their starting point and if there wasn't the
00:49:49.680 pushback at the time the course it would have been nightclubs today and then it would have been
00:49:54.640 you know then it would have been the pub and then the train well that's the thing there was one
00:49:58.400 christmas i was traveling back and forth between wiltshire and essex and there was one christmas
00:50:03.200 where they were saying boris came on tv saying you're not going to be able to get on a train without
00:50:08.160 it yeah and i am not vaccinated i haven't ever been vaccinated so obviously you don't have a vaccine
00:50:11.760 passport believing that i've been vaccinated and i was like oh how am i going to travel to wiltshire
00:50:16.960 and back and so i started to sort of change things around started to make plans in case that happened
00:50:21.680 and then literally one day they just said oh we're not doing that anymore yeah they backed off i think
00:50:26.560 in france maybe in germany as well but i think in france they did it in canada they did it you
00:50:30.720 couldn't get on a train without a vaccine in canada they did it yeah they shut down they shut down
00:50:34.320 basically your ability to travel if you didn't have a vaccine passport so we've all we've already had this
00:50:39.200 um it's simply a question of coming back and once you've got a digital id it's very easy for them
00:50:45.200 to start toggling adding flags and toggling them on and off like flag yeah vaccinated run vaccinated
00:50:51.760 ability to purchase train tickets or not um you know ability to do this ability to go here and
00:50:57.520 do that and that kind of stuff and especially if you can combine it with the cbdc you don't even need
00:51:02.880 to worry about people protesting because okay oh there's going to be a big protest in london okay right
00:51:07.920 what we're going to do is we're going to check the digital ids of everybody who who doesn't live
00:51:11.520 in london and we're going to turn off the ability to buy a train ticket or parking if they drive in
00:51:16.720 they've got a digital file on you yeah saying you're the type of person likely to cause a
00:51:22.320 we think you're the type of person likely to cause a disturbance yeah therefore your money is switched
00:51:27.120 off your money switched today or whatever or forever or whatever yeah or uh we don't we we think
00:51:32.080 from everything we look at every your your digital footprint we can see everything you click on yes
00:51:36.640 we're gchq we're the nsa we can see everything you click on and we don't like you yeah so we're
00:51:42.880 just going to turn the volume down on your whole life yeah we're just going to make you silent and
00:51:47.920 dark well this is the other and eventually probably not even able to vote and it just won't count your
00:51:52.320 vote or whatever another another comment that i got from somebody um who is a sensible chap i don't
00:51:58.240 think it thought this through as much he was saying well i'm not that worried about digital ids
00:52:02.320 it's central bank digital currencies when i start to get worried the the reason i think that's wrong
00:52:06.480 is no we have to push back here we have to reject this emphatically now the reason is is i don't
00:52:11.840 think they're going to allow a proper big financial crisis the next one until they have central bank
00:52:16.560 digital currencies because that will be the moment they can roll them out because they're not just
00:52:21.120 going to go oh here's a central bank digital currency and you have to use this because it gives us
00:52:24.640 absolute control it will be introduced as something like um step one it will be if your business you
00:52:32.000 have to pay your taxes in this so all the businesses will just go along and do it and they won't they
00:52:37.120 won't bother the individual citizen at that point and then conveniently there'll be a nice big financial
00:52:43.120 crisis and they come along and say oh would you like a stimulus payment yeah we're going to print a
00:52:47.920 whole load of money we're going to give most of it to ourselves of course but we're going to give
00:52:50.640 some of it to you so here's a few grand uh but we need to make sure that it's uh secure and convenient
00:52:58.080 and uh the data's safe and all that kind of stuff so you can only your safety yeah so you can only
00:53:04.480 access this if you sign up for a central bank digital currency account and how many people are not going
00:53:09.600 to then go oh yeah i'm not going to get my two five ten grand whatever it is everybody's going to
00:53:15.440 sign up for a central bank digital currency then and then we're going to come out the other side
00:53:18.720 and it's coming oh look everybody's already got a cbdc wallet tied to their digital id oh yeah we're
00:53:26.000 just we're just going to phase out cash now and and traditional bank accounts and then they've got us
00:53:31.600 end of freedom at that point there's not a damn thing we can do at that point
00:53:36.000 and it's coming and people and people are not people are not alarmed enough about how bad this is
00:53:41.680 going to get for them um well they've still got i am a celebrity haven't they they've still got yeah
00:53:46.480 oh the masses will go for it they've still got very very expensive beer so yeah yeah the master
00:53:52.800 still order papa johns the masses will go for um the only other thing i would say is um i do actually
00:53:58.960 think there is a case for having a form of digital id in this digital world but it cannot be a government
00:54:05.920 issued one i don't even want it to be a big tech issued one now i wanted to very briefly mention people
00:54:11.360 go away and look into this if they want to but there are things called zero knowledge proofs
00:54:15.600 which is basically a blockchain alternative to a digital id and essentially you can hash information
00:54:22.800 to the blockchain and it can then be verified as true and you can basically verify whether
00:54:28.640 a statement is true or not without revealing the underlying data so so the way the way to think
00:54:34.480 about this is at the moment let's say you're trying to get into a nightclub and you're a 19 year
00:54:37.760 old girl you need to show the bouncer your driving license with your address on it in order to get in
00:54:42.480 or not you know with with a zero knowledge proof you'll be the one adding information to the hashes
00:54:49.040 um you might want to get some of them verified by an official source like you know i own this
00:54:53.680 house and therefore the land registry adds their digital signature it but you can basically have your
00:54:58.400 pot of knowledge and then the bouncer can just ask were you born on or before a certain date and
00:55:04.560 it will be able to give a verified or not zero knowledge proofs are the way to go
00:55:11.520 and it gives all of the benefits that they claim that they are doing a digital id for but it gives
00:55:18.800 them none of the control it gives us total control so zero knowledge proofs are the way to go we don't
00:55:24.160 need digital ids and actually um they need digital ids because they want to enslave us and they will if they
00:55:31.440 can get away with it if we don't push back now and reject this shit look at that uh bis chief what
00:55:37.520 a disgusting you remember baron silas yeah of course yeah yeah it's him isn't it yeah he does look like
00:55:43.360 him yeah yeah control on a toad yeah they mean they mean to enslave us 100 absolutely 100 yeah all right
00:55:56.800 do you want to read some of the oh we've got comments oh yeah oh look at that right okay um
00:56:06.560 remember the time uh magazine article a few years ago when they talked about having fortified the 2020
00:56:11.760 election yes indeed yeah quite um um oh i should have said that was that was dragon lady chris uh peter j harvey
00:56:20.800 says so if the government wants to use smartphones for digital ids will they also be providing said
00:56:26.320 smartphones to the people that don't want or have one um yeah presumably not um annexio says even if
00:56:35.440 the government was was not being evil there were two massive breaches in the nhs last week what makes
00:56:40.720 people think they want the central gun would be any safer they're incompetent evil or stupid all three
00:56:45.440 yes quite binary server good chap um even if benevolent pull the other one i'll give it about
00:56:50.480 six months before a massive data breach will basically release the entire uk's information
00:56:55.200 yeah uk averages three serious data breaches per month yep quite um oh and then the binary surfer again
00:57:01.440 says um dan is correct they are trying everything to avoid another economic crash um re zero knowledge
00:57:08.400 proofs they are very promising but likely to get compromised by intelligence services within days
00:57:13.280 i suppose it depends on the strength of the network really doesn't it but um but yeah i think it's
00:57:18.000 worth exploring anyway right syrians okay so we know there's been a regime collapse in syria
00:57:29.360 and uh a new a new group have come in haven't they are they don't worry about too much who they are
00:57:34.960 and what they really think and believe don't worry are they all for you know pride and sending women to
00:57:41.680 school and being nice to christians are they are they it doesn't matter just a sad bad and he's gone
00:57:46.960 all right okay so that's that's good that's all that really matters um however we do know that uh a
00:57:54.000 load of jihadis went over there to fight yes on both sides actually and uh we don't want them back so
00:58:02.480 a lot of countries have sort of uh stopped their asylum applications frozen their borders to returning
00:58:08.880 syrian jihadis well we've actually stopped an immigrant for once so oh it is possible to
00:58:16.320 police your borders to some extent oh oh when they do want to do that they can that's remarkable
00:58:24.480 so finland finland announces its freeze on all syrian asylum applications because you don't want any of
00:58:30.800 those pro-assad jihadis coming back don't worry about the plethora of other stripes of jihadi from
00:58:39.280 all over the world but pro-assad ones can't have those in finland or in switzerland switzerland's
00:58:46.160 switzerland's done the same what what a terrible image look at that beautiful swiss town and a bunch of
00:58:54.240 syrians god knows who god knows who uh austria austria have decided that they've had enough
00:59:03.360 of these types of people flooding their country can you imagine the the mason who who had just spent
00:59:09.520 30 years working on that monument behind him and then he steps back and looks at it and thinks this
00:59:16.160 is good if you could show him that this photo and say yeah um you know a thousand years later this is
00:59:22.560 what this area is going to look like just syrians everywhere gasp syrians italy it's funny how they
00:59:32.080 all act in units i often think on the international stage it is a bit like in a playground where one
00:59:38.240 kid does something or says something yeah none of the others have got basically have got the balls to
00:59:43.840 go to do it but one kid does it first and then everyone realizes oh he's done it and got away with
00:59:49.600 it or whatever so uh we'll all do it now it's it's funny how just about every story we cover these
00:59:54.960 days it we either mention explicitly in the story or people pointed out in the comments oh yeah they're
01:00:01.280 doing this everywhere else as well but every story it's almost like there's some sort of
01:00:07.600 undisclosed covert one world government yeah it's funny that almost like they're acting in unison as if
01:00:14.400 they were one government how curious almost as if that um or germany ze germans also uh suspending all
01:00:25.200 asylum from syria the bad jihad is coming back from syria not the good ones sweden norway and denmark
01:00:34.480 all falling in line so they can they can control their borders a bit at least to some extent when they
01:00:39.600 want to britain starmer got the memo battle hardened islamic state fighters from the uk could be freed
01:00:52.240 from prison okay so the people who supported the dentist you know it's very important that they're
01:00:58.240 not allowed into the country but the the the beheaders the uh you know islamic beheaders we've got to let
01:01:05.440 them out of jail now yeah it makes sense just you know not to a rational mind but this right yeah
01:01:14.000 right oh lammy uh apparently went on tv i didn't actually see this but went on tv saying no no no
01:01:20.240 we'll uh we're not we're not suspended any asylum applications and then the home office just said no
01:01:23.840 we are we are though so he he didn't get the memo or he didn't read the memo did you a quick aside
01:01:30.480 did you see the um the tucker um interview that he did with sergey lavrov no i didn't know i'd lose
01:01:36.000 recently in the last few days or something yeah all right no i i had a number of people sort of pointed
01:01:40.080 out to me and i just sent a picture of david lammy back and said yeah that you know the russians got
01:01:43.680 sergey lavrov but we've got david lammy checkmate russia yeah you've got the towering intellect
01:01:50.320 of david lammy um yes he knows how things work he knows how the world works so yes let's have him
01:01:59.840 at the forum we score one master so so we're um yeah so a lot of the countries in western europe
01:02:06.480 have decided that uh returning jihadis from syria uh are beyond the pale
01:02:13.120 because they supported the dentist so that's interesting to say yeah if they supported the
01:02:16.640 dentist yeah oh no wait he's an eye doctor wasn't he what was he i think he was an eye doctor i knew
01:02:21.200 he was one of the obscure medical fields but i couldn't remember he's an eye doctor again anyway
01:02:25.280 what's that an optologist or something what is the proper word for an eye doctor i can't remember
01:02:29.520 yeah i think it's an optologist could be wrong um so also other news coming out of of syria that i
01:02:36.400 think is interesting is that um israel have dipped their oar in they're getting involved right
01:02:43.920 um well it is in their region um so over the past few days the israeli military has launched
01:02:50.960 extensive airstrikes across syria targeting military sites air defenses and naval assets
01:02:57.520 sounds like a full-blown thing to me uh reports confirm that the israeli defense force the idf have
01:03:02.240 struck over 250 locations severely impacting syrian military infrastructure including the destruction of
01:03:08.160 key air bases and the syrian navy's missile fleet in strategic locations like minet al badia i don't
01:03:14.880 know where that is and some other place i can't pronounce the the strikes come in the context of
01:03:19.440 ongoing regional tensions with israeli with israel aiming to prevent the proliferation of advanced
01:03:24.720 weaponry and to potential threats in other words blow up his proper good military assets so the new
01:03:32.080 blokes the new rebels don't get it i mean it's um it's handy that they had a list of targets ready
01:03:38.160 to go just in case there was a moment of instability do you think we've got a list of of french military
01:03:44.160 targets just in case you know if the government were to fall and if macron were to be deposed
01:03:50.800 do you think we've got a list ready where we could just like okay launch the fighters now take
01:03:54.800 out the french base british military like horse guards parade it's got a it's got a map somewhere
01:04:00.800 yes hey we need to take out their naval base at too long or something uh i don't know i mean
01:04:06.560 well i'd like to think i don't know maybe maybe um but um if you were if you were looking at this
01:04:12.960 strictly from a pragmatic israeli point of view it does make sense i mean on some level i don't blame
01:04:18.880 them at all really because we know assyria has got some at least some chemical weapons right um
01:04:26.080 yeah so it might be best to blow those up so that the new chaps don't get their dirty mitts on them
01:04:33.840 maybe that is for the best but it's also extremely um yes well maybe not extremely but it's also
01:04:40.000 fairly cynical from the israelis they're like well these are this is a long-term strategic enemy yes
01:04:45.600 uh and we can just blow up their navy and air force right now so yes so we go ahead and do it
01:04:52.240 yes shouldn't laugh really it's uh well as with most things israeli
01:05:01.120 the thing that bothers me about it the most is that we don't do it i mean they have got the most robust
01:05:07.040 ethno-nationalist um setup that you could ever hope for their border is is policed i mean apart from on
01:05:14.080 certain days their border is policed with barbed wire and machine guns and i just think well yeah
01:05:19.440 why can't we have that they stand up for themselves yeah so sometimes it won't be ordered around by the
01:05:26.720 state sometimes robust ethno-nationalism is a good thing and in all other cases it's a bad thing
01:05:32.880 apparently yeah yeah scottish nationalism is fine welsh nationalism is fine irish nationalism not american or
01:05:40.960 english though yes yeah something wrong with that kind of that no um israeli forces have conducted
01:05:48.080 extensive military operations across syria following the fall of president bashar al-assad the operations
01:05:52.640 involved israeli troops moving close to damascus there were some reports that there's even tank
01:05:57.440 divisions but other reports saying that's not true um airstrikes targeting numerous uh syrian military
01:06:03.280 installations and the destruction of a significant portion of syria's air force capabilities
01:06:08.400 international reactions have varied uh with some countries condemning the incursion as a land grab
01:06:15.360 while others urge the situation uh to be temporary um so there you go and a fair bit of the news uh
01:06:24.080 i mentioned the bbc saying that they've uh saying that israel are doing this um the telegraph
01:06:32.160 you know the chemical weapons well that israel want to create some sort of buffer zone
01:06:39.360 that they'll get maybe like the kurds or some other faction to control the region between israel and
01:06:45.760 syria so there's some sort of buffer zone well they figure out exactly extending two miles in each
01:06:51.520 direction from their borders um yeah just while we figure out exactly what this new regime are all
01:07:01.680 about you know really what they're going to do and what they're like um well a while pounds damascus
01:07:08.480 at a wild guess they're going to start slaughtering christians oh oh no doubt i mean i say that's a
01:07:14.480 a wild guess is because whenever the um you know the collective west does anything anywhere the result
01:07:21.840 is always christians get slaughtered every time yeah oh yeah yeah i mean if i was slightly more
01:07:29.200 suspicious i might start to ask why christians always getting slaughtered is is the accidental
01:07:35.360 outcome of all of these interventions i don't really know anything about the new guy and his regime
01:07:44.320 but um don't hold out any real hope that he's going to be
01:07:50.880 good or in in any sense other than for his particular brand of islamism yeah i mean i remember
01:07:58.240 the days when isis was bad yeah sky news yeah saying it's a land grab yeah probably yeah
01:08:07.120 the times of the times of israel gloating over it their general their uh generals huddled in their masses
01:08:18.400 just like witches at black masses yeah the war pigs
01:08:27.040 um so yeah so that's uh something that's happening we're stopping the particular type
01:08:32.880 one particular small type of syrian jihadi from coming to western europe but in all other senses
01:08:39.680 of course um there there will be some sort of exodus of the the losers and uh well as it stands
01:08:47.280 they'll just get on a dinghy right they'll find that find their way to calais yes get on a dinghy
01:08:54.560 and uh their ids they'll just drop into the channel well if if if they put out the word we're
01:09:00.320 no longer accepting syrians as well i just toss my syrian passport then well have they got a tony
01:09:05.360 blair digital id that will stop all of this that will definitely stop all of that yes
01:09:13.360 so another thing to mention um in this segment i think is uh that a bit of a two-part segment
01:09:19.520 really uh they're sort of tangentially connected but um that in britain we looks like we're going to
01:09:25.840 pass laws banning first cousin marriage well that wasn't already a thing right that that was that
01:09:31.840 was one but mind you i always thought it was already illegal well it's the sort of thing that
01:09:36.640 you don't need to tell you don't need to tell english people not to marry their cousins don't marry
01:09:42.240 your own sister or your mum yes you're not allowed to marry your own mum or your first cousin
01:09:46.960 yeah yeah no one's gonna you're not mad nobody was doing this nobody nobody was doing this for
01:09:51.920 centuries so what's changed bow oh nothing it's just a it's just a problem now just just english
01:09:58.800 people british people just marrying their first cousins a lot now well what are those numbers you
01:10:03.760 got there then oh no that's right people that are actually uh foreign fifth columnists uh are doing
01:10:09.600 it aren't they people from foreign cultures which are definitely equal to ours because all cultures are
01:10:14.640 equal so hang on saying that in pakistan 65 of marriages are between first cousins
01:10:19.680 yep what 65 according to josh firm do you know that big josh firm off lotus eaters you know lotus
01:10:26.400 eaters he's all right good lad i think i'll follow him um he's saying according to his stats um yeah
01:10:33.680 65 in pakistan because um seriously it's 65 no wonder they're so absolutely batshit it's madness how long
01:10:43.440 has that been going on for uh for since what the the eighth seventh eighth century or whatever i
01:10:49.600 suppose it's in islam isn't it it's that uh i mean i'd expect muhammad blessed be upon his name
01:10:54.960 married his first cousin right i would expect them to start looking at jim henderson puppets after
01:10:59.200 about three generations if this has been going on for a while that is um worrying yeah it's mad if the
01:11:07.520 number or instance the west it's in the west it's less than one percent yeah it's really really rare
01:11:11.680 it's a freakish thing it'll get you on um jeremy kyle or something it's that rare right it just doesn't
01:11:17.520 really happen no um although in the godfather part three they fall in love with each other don't they
01:11:25.120 anyway uh you you don't marry and have children's with your first cousin it's absolutely
01:11:31.280 crazy when it cuts down on the amount of christmas presents from grandparents for a start yeah yeah
01:11:38.880 half as many um so yeah if it's more than like a fraction of one percent then it's a terrible
01:11:44.960 terrible problem if it's 65 that's mad in saudi arabia 50 afghanistan 40 in iran 30 egypt and turkey 20
01:11:55.200 even turkey i always thought that the people from these areas of the world were so disagreeable
01:12:02.560 because it was sandy and hot and that was just bothersome but i'm starting to think there may
01:12:07.680 be another reason turns out they're just inbred in rural areas of pakistan it's up to 80 percent
01:12:13.840 so you're the freak if you don't marry your first cousin yeah but you're you've only you've only got
01:12:18.080 one first cousin and she's already married it's like oh no i'm gonna have to go to a second cousin now
01:12:22.160 yeah well this is there's an idea is it is ancient truly ancient the idea that your family or your
01:12:31.840 clan what might want to use the word tribe but certainly your clan or your family is that there's
01:12:39.280 wealth and money or prestige or something within that and you dilute it and water it down if you marry
01:12:45.680 outside of it there there's there's wealth in rural pakistan is there well not exactly but you know
01:12:52.880 who's going to inherit who's going to inherit these three goats it's all relative though isn't it it's
01:12:57.040 all relative right so yeah they're not they're not wealthy compared to somebody who's yes upper middle
01:13:03.920 class living in the bay area yes or in uh mayfair but um it's all relative isn't it yeah the idea that um
01:13:11.840 um yeah that we to to dilute the family or the clan is bad and we've got we've got a carte blanche
01:13:22.240 from the imam that you can marry your first cousin so you do
01:13:28.880 i mean this is making the boomers look good because at least at least they just squander all of their wealth
01:13:34.640 and you know the older they get it's like we've got to we've got to ram in more saga cruises until
01:13:39.280 it's all gone because because that way there's no incentive to marry your first cousin because there
01:13:44.640 is nothing coming down from the grandparents yeah but all cultures are equal all cultures are equal
01:13:52.720 come on let's not be bigoted right big josh firm off of lotus eater says in 2002 study revealed a
01:13:59.280 2002 study revealed that while pakistani babies make up four percent of uk births so it's much more
01:14:05.040 now uh they account for 30 of birth defects in 2013 a larger study found that 37 of babies with birth
01:14:14.000 defects were from pakistani first cousin marriages 37 times higher than the national average yes because
01:14:22.480 it is unnatural yes it's mad it's honestly mad i mean they're all on benefits so why do they you can
01:14:32.480 stop doing the the cousin marriage thing now you can stop doing that you're still going to get your
01:14:36.800 benefits anyway yeah yeah right but once again just to make it perfectly clear all cultures are equal
01:14:46.720 it's not possible to have a value judgment about different cultures that that's that would be
01:14:53.520 beyond the pale yeah that would be gross and perverse right not birth defects in lots and lots and
01:15:02.080 lots of babies that's not that's not the problem okay big josh firm off of that lotus eaters says despite
01:15:10.000 making up 0.05 percent of the uk population albanians make up 1.6 percent of all prisoners 32 times over
01:15:19.600 represented it's an interesting statistic isn't it it's almost like all cultures are equal uh they are
01:15:26.960 the largest foreign prison population at 14 now the average uh prisoner costs the uk taxpayer over 51 grand
01:15:34.160 i imagine that's a year is it as of march 2023 prisoners who who agreed to deportation had their
01:15:42.880 jail terms reduced and received a payment of 1500 quid oh i mean why not yeah why not it's not it's not a
01:15:49.360 type of modern dangeld it's definitely not that no no no in 2022 uh they albanians were 28 of the
01:15:57.120 illegal immigrants with 27 of the asylum applications being granted so um right so it's not that there's
01:16:06.080 anything wrong with albanian culture or anything well because all cultures are equal but but i i mean
01:16:13.600 i mean the still man case for this is it could just be balanced based albanians saying to all of their
01:16:19.360 criminals um we're gonna we're gonna do this unless you go off to britain and do your crime there and
01:16:25.600 they're like yeah right then well to be absolutely honest and fair and reasonable that is what's
01:16:29.600 happened isn't it yeah albania and loads of other countries and not just britain it's happening in
01:16:35.440 america as well yeah that these other countries offload their the worst elements of their society
01:16:44.320 anywhere else would you like to get out of prison 10 years earlier um the requirement is is that you
01:16:50.400 and your family move to britain or america or something or just not here yeah just not here
01:16:56.320 go away see if you can get to calais or the rio grand i mean to be fair then to be fair and it's
01:17:02.080 up to you to get in and once you're in it's fine we're not not our problem anymore to be fair if i was
01:17:06.400 running this place i'd do exactly the same thing really yeah i think it's scummy i'll just lock up my
01:17:11.840 own like um yeah yeah but not 51 grand a year oh sorry i guess i missed your point what were you
01:17:21.280 saying well i just i i would just get rid of them somehow i mean there are there are other methods that
01:17:28.080 we we can only talk about in the context of mine oh i thought you were saying but you can also you
01:17:32.080 can also just get them to go somewhere else all right i thought you were saying if you were if you
01:17:36.640 could with the leader of albania you'd do the same thing oh no if i was either leader of britain all right
01:17:41.280 okay sorry i see i'll be like yeah you you guys can you know one way or another yeah no i'd put them
01:17:47.040 on planes yeah just send them back yes i'll put them on a plane apart from the really bad ones you'd
01:17:55.520 use helicopters all right well so there's a couple of tidbits for you um i guess that's it
01:18:04.240 oh do you you might have some of those comment things i've got some comments on the rumble thing
01:18:11.440 uh what's this uh the engaged few says the engaged few says uh imagine an entire region of the planet
01:18:19.760 filled with people with habsburg jawlines brittle bones and random instances of full-blown
01:18:26.240 insanity what could possibly go wrong yeah uh dragon lady chris says you think even muslims would have
01:18:33.440 learned a lesson about inbreeding from the habsburgs yeah well again it's a story as old as time and
01:18:41.360 the engaged few again says war pigs is one of my favorite sabbath songs me too in fact it is my
01:18:46.320 favorite sabbath song um but i really prefer the original lyrics when the song was titled
01:18:53.200 walpergus i don't know if that's true or a joke i've never heard of that before didn't know that one but
01:18:58.320 war pigs by black sabbath is a wicked song anyone out there doesn't know it i will look it up you
01:19:04.720 don't know it no oh you probably would have heard it quite famous one anyway uh the binary surfer says
01:19:11.680 bogey bigot they're not just all equal they're all beautiful quite quite true exactly beautiful to the
01:19:20.080 exactly the same extent um also is josh bitter because the cornish are losing their their crown
01:19:26.880 as king of the uk's cousin shaggers well no that crown belongs to people from norfolk we all know that
01:19:34.400 no no more monopoly on webbed feet um it's funny in britain anyone who's a foreign or american might
01:19:40.160 not know that we take the mickey out of farmers from norfolk and people from the deep west country
01:19:44.960 like devon or cornwall for being inbred also scotch welsh and irish oh yeah of course
01:19:50.880 yes i mean we we're very diverse in our in our humor and the real real reality is that we're not
01:19:57.120 at all right yeah no we actually get on we don't yeah yeah all right so what uh some video comments yes
01:20:05.600 enjoyed your segment on the fall of the french government as it's going currently though i would
01:20:11.840 point out that the french government factions the big three are the collaborators the cowards and the
01:20:18.400 capitulators france should change its motto from liberty equality and brotherhood to cowardice collaboration
01:20:28.560 and capitulation
01:20:32.560 i learned the other day that apparently the french flag has blue and red in it
01:20:36.560 yeah of course the tricula well sorry i don't get the joke uh you think about it
01:20:44.320 blue and red i don't get it yeah it has blue and red in it
01:20:48.480 you'll get there okay sorry next video sorry right over my head whatever that is
01:20:54.320 dan has been based before the word even came to be his expertise and finance led to realizing many
01:20:59.680 truths about human behavior and money scams governments inflict on us dan's brokonomic series was an instant
01:21:06.240 hit he puts on a lax facade but you realize how frightfully smart he is when he casually
01:21:11.840 calculates how to colonize venus for fun dan hides his true power level ask him what he thinks about
01:21:18.320 modern women quite based dan goes in the d-tier what yeah what what i thought he was teeing you up for
01:21:26.480 s or a bloody t-tier that was all going so well oh i was like
01:21:35.040 i have no idea sir no i basic based
01:21:41.680 well whoever that is ban him that's ruined your day i i'm i'm gutted i'm not s-tier
01:21:48.480 but yeah i mean i i assumed he was teeing you up there to put you in a that's what i felt like
01:21:54.800 where that was going god i'll tell you before you allow to make one of these tier lists you ought to
01:22:00.000 come and listen to the conversations that we have in the office office the stuff that we can't even
01:22:04.080 bloody put on camera but don't god's sakes don't report them to special branch basic based um i i
01:22:11.360 didn't know this was happening and i want to see my one now what he said about me i guess he did that a
01:22:15.520 few days ago we must have done you're already on the list you must have missed it so i've been
01:22:21.440 seeing a few posts on my timeline basically promoting the fact that people implicitly
01:22:27.360 right-wingers are worshipping villains and this trend needs to stop when the fact is it's like this
01:22:33.120 is mostly a trend that's being pushed by the left wing it's like disney for example with their like
01:22:37.760 cruella and bellificent films that let's not even forget that disney all the way back when
01:22:42.640 have their pirates of their pet caramean franchise which is trying to whitewash the pirates as good
01:22:47.120 guys you know a lot of figures in those movies were actually slave traders
01:22:52.640 yeah no it's a classic leftist subversion perversion make the bad evil disgusting weird thing uh the thing
01:23:00.160 you're supposed to be cheering for you know satanism over the light of christ for example anything drugs
01:23:08.480 over not drugs right it's just yeah
01:23:16.320 they're freaks this question is for dan i'm a fairly uh risk averse guy and i like to see steady growth
01:23:22.640 over a long number of years and i'm eyeing the spy uh etf trust for the smp 500 index fund is there any
01:23:30.400 downside to investing in something like this i know you're not going to give me financial advice wink
01:23:35.200 wink wink okay no need for the disclaimer uh i appreciate your help but it's had a 25 year
01:23:40.080 over year increase the last four years seems like a safe bet is there something i'm missing thank you
01:23:45.680 very much uh yeah i'm not a fan of of index funds in general um i'll tell you what i'll do is is the
01:23:55.200 next brokernomics i'm filming is i'm going through a whole bunch of um subscriber questions that have
01:24:01.840 accumulated under the videos i want to get to so since you're a good chap in a gold tier i will
01:24:07.280 put this question to the top and it will be covered in the brokernomics where i can give it more time
01:24:12.640 because we've only got like a couple of minutes left can i say something on that yeah go on then
01:24:16.640 i'm not a successful venture capitalist as our dan is but i did work in asset management and
01:24:22.320 investment banking and commodities trading for the best part of 20 years i would say
01:24:26.320 uh at least buy the dip like it's all time higher as a general rule yeah it's not a great time to buy
01:24:37.120 when something says it's all time higher i mean it looks like the trend will continue upwards i would
01:24:41.840 have thought but at least buy a dip i mean i i yeah i mean never buy an all-time high this is not the
01:24:49.920 point in the cycle that i'm doing my buying anyway right right it was two years 18 months ago i was
01:24:56.160 doing my buying and this is the time i'm just holding and waiting and then next in about six to
01:25:01.840 12 months will be when i do my selling but yeah that's a fair point i have been enjoying the videos
01:25:09.120 of what if alt hist albeit his takes rely on the flawed american mapping of left versus right
01:25:14.640 in one video he describes how we will have to deal with mental health as a threat akin to the black
01:25:19.520 death just like our predecessors having to fumble their way to learning about hygiene and germ theory
01:25:24.320 so too we will have to struggle to understand how our mental health is built up i'm profoundly unsettled
01:25:29.920 by adverts for mental health services and the associated days of awareness which strike me as
01:25:34.960 analogous to the old snake oil remedy salesman of the wild west
01:25:42.720 always solid comments there right is that we should we do the uh the written ones then all right
01:25:49.040 right bloody basic based right uh alex ogle says the difference bow is that back when we were a fewer
01:25:56.640 media outlets as much closer scrutiny and extra care was taken with the output yeah everything seems
01:26:02.320 rushed and half-assed these days but it could just be that the lower quality of the people presenting i
01:26:07.760 don't i don't know um carl's gallon tub of newlin oil uh says trying to explain the actions of
01:26:15.040 intelligence agencies as often dismissed as relying on circumstantial evidence however the very nature of
01:26:21.200 intelligence organizations mean there is black money and a lack of paper trail such organizations have
01:26:26.480 no accountability and cannot be trusted because of the very structure yet we are still gaslit into saying
01:26:31.280 they act only in our best interests yes was it oh i see right um omar award says a country that
01:26:42.720 can't trust its citizens with the truth is afraid of what they might do if they find out on the other
01:26:47.280 hand it's kind of funny to think gamergate might have been a cia psyop yeah lots of things are actually
01:26:54.240 um hang on let's do one more from this um sophie live says gotta hand it to the nazis they were at least
01:27:00.560 honest enough to just straight up call it the ministry of propaganda yes yeah we cause our bbc verify
01:27:07.360 it's just yes a bit weak isn't it um economic zone 17 says horrifying that the dystopian express card
01:27:17.680 the id card is back on the agenda again no and it never really went away i mean the the white paper has
01:27:23.440 been sat there for about two years now they never stopped banging the drum yeah never it's it's just it
01:27:29.040 was just a question of you know picking their moment to push it out um carl's gullant of newly
01:27:36.960 nor says i'm calling it now the uk government will market this as a way of making it easier to curb
01:27:40.880 illegal migration oh yeah they're yeah they're they're doing that already um mr award says i'm less
01:27:46.080 concerned about who they uh decide are no longer citizens as much as i am they will
01:27:51.120 suddenly decide who are yeah of course yeah because of course if you yeah i gave the example
01:27:56.000 they can take away uses but they can also add it yeah yeah you get someone like boris johnson just go
01:28:01.920 oh everyone that's polish is just now british yes click done well i don't think it would work the
01:28:06.800 polish because i was just thinking yeah because they're they're on the verge of going back because
01:28:10.560 because because i think polish gdp per head is going to be surpassing ours for long well let's
01:28:16.320 say somali then yeah oh yeah yeah that that would that would work perfectly yeah it doesn't matter if
01:28:21.840 you're even here yet yes it's already done for you oh yeah if you get if you can physically get here
01:28:27.200 it's already that's a good point you get a global global id card of some sort and they can just yeah
01:28:33.120 go around ticking all the somalis or just we'll just do the mark all thing yeah they've all got
01:28:38.560 well they'll decide you're a dissident because you did or said something they didn't like you did a
01:28:42.320 facebook post yeah or you turned up at a protest even though you didn't actually do anything yeah
01:28:46.880 they decide that you're a dissident yeah and they just either just come around and put you in the
01:28:53.920 back of a paddy wagon well it's probably on pc you can't send it put you back in in the back of a
01:28:58.080 police car and uh or they just say um no more bank account for you yeah you're not allowed to shop
01:29:04.960 anymore and and they're probably they could do all they could do anything they want and they
01:29:10.240 could probably do that twitter thing that you know that what they did the shadow banning where
01:29:14.960 where they didn't have a good reason to go after you they just didn't like you
01:29:20.160 so they did like all these background things that you didn't be aware of so once you've got this kind
01:29:24.960 of setup they could they could just you know activate the shadow irritation thing and like every
01:29:30.560 payment is declined three times before it finally goes through absolutely all sorts of stuff that
01:29:35.520 was something i was going to meant to say during the segment but then we moved on to talk about
01:29:38.320 something else yeah they'll just shadow they'll do shadow stuff on your digital work on your digital
01:29:44.320 life and you don't even know that they've done anything but yeah it's just now near or it's near
01:29:49.600 impossible or impossible all sorts of avenues are just closed to you and you didn't even know yeah yeah
01:29:56.720 yeah um uh drone van karl karen says in the netherlands uh we can't have any online interaction
01:30:07.120 with the government without our uh digi id for years we get less and less paper information and
01:30:11.520 everything's going online oh dear and sophie live says um denmark already had digital id for 10 years
01:30:18.000 literally since the first of june 2010 we had our digital ids originally called easy id and now my id
01:30:24.160 uh since 2021 can't make any purchase on the internet or into my web bank or anything without
01:30:29.600 using the id uh den uh denmark and finland were the test rats for this yeah and also the czech republic
01:30:35.680 that they that they've had a version of that for years as well um
01:30:41.040 annie e moss says uh dan it would be nice to think you could create digital id without the government
01:30:46.320 being involved um but if one was created the government would take it over in a bait and switch move
01:30:51.680 well they wouldn't be able to if it was it was blockchain based but uh that's why i like that
01:30:55.840 and finally uh should we do a couple of the no syrian ones uh furious dan says uh funny how asad uh
01:31:03.680 the one syrian refugee who is actually a doctor doesn't end up in the eu yeah that's a good point
01:31:09.440 actually yeah um george happ says funny how the eu leaders freeze asylum applications the moment there may
01:31:16.320 be uh actual asylum seekers like the christians in um syria yeah yeah again bloody good point um
01:31:24.880 um and ewan baker says something happens in the 90s and then cousin marriage went up
01:31:30.480 uh yes something something or other yes we can't quite we don't really know what do we
01:31:36.000 yes something happened yes quite okay so uh with that i i think we better wrap up we're at time and i
01:31:43.280 will just say to you all i am not basic based