The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1061

00:00:00.000 hello and welcome to the podcast of the lotuses episode 1061 today the 11th of december 2024

00:00:15.320 i'm your host connor joined by harry and josh hello lads lineups back it's going to be a fun

00:00:19.520 one we're going to be discussing the cousin marriage party that's appeared in the uk parliament

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00:02:27.440 sexual degeneracy we have a new party in the british parliament that is the cousin marriage party 0.54

00:02:33.280 not an official name they're probably still workshopping it i wish i was exaggerating

00:02:38.140 one of these names is not like the others of course jeremy corbyn jumped straight in

00:02:47.680 jeremy corbyn has never met an islamist he doesn't like and i think that's fair to say because 1.00

00:02:51.400 these four independent muslim mps plus jeremy corbyn former leader of the labor party who's now an

00:02:57.100 independent mp ran on a pro-gaza ticket now gaza palestine etc being run by the palestinian

00:03:03.460 authority and hamas hamas is a prescribed terrorist group in the uk so if you're agitating for them

00:03:08.380 yes you're an islamist the members of the independent alliance there are five mps so bear in mind

00:03:14.400 at all times there are five independent independent muslim mps including jeremy corbyn in the uk

00:03:21.540 parliament that's the that's the same number of mps as reform has so for all the talk of reform doing

00:03:27.180 well and i hope they do and i hope they become the party that we want them to because we all voted for

00:03:31.080 them the last election they are currently neck and neck with hamas supporting mps so that's the state

00:03:38.760 of british politics the five mps in question are shokrat adam jeremy corbyn adam hussein ayyub khan and

00:03:46.340 ikbal muhammad all very good names thank you yeah that that last one's really guttural on the throat and

00:03:51.260 i'm going to be saying his name quite a lot in this one because he is the leader i suppose of the

00:03:56.860 cousin marriage he's not a former client of keir starmer is he i don't think any of them are no but

00:04:01.980 you would be forgiven for thinking with the names that um sadiq khan had done them a favor in in the

00:04:08.960 legal system at one point now these mps are currently a disaggregated group of independents

00:04:15.360 that all seem to vote along the same lines as of january they're going to become a party now we don't

00:04:20.160 know what the party is going to be called but given their key issues i think cousin marriage party isn't 0.59

00:04:24.940 too far from the question and and i think they're going to get a lot more mps as well because there are

00:04:29.740 still multiple labour mps i think it's about seven who have had the whip suspended because they voted

00:04:33.800 against keir starmer on the winter fuel allowance and these include john mcdonald who was jeremy

00:04:38.980 corbyn's old chancellor and zara sultana the the completely demented student politician not to be

00:04:46.040 confused with who's the other one nadia wittom the right honorable member from the suntaran homeworld

00:04:51.220 anyway all of these people are absolute freaks and they're in our parliament and they might end up

00:04:54.840 joining this weird coalition so their key policy issues have been brought to light this week because

00:05:00.440 richard holden who i can only describe as a pretty disastrous former party chairman who tried to

00:05:07.520 parachute himself into a safe seat and then sent the wrong leaflets out is currently doing a sort of

00:05:12.720 career rejuvenation attempt by bringing forth a bill on tuesday to ban first cousin marriage

00:05:21.020 now you might be well you might be oh yeah you're from devonshire yeah this is west country

00:05:26.240 discrimination i'm our people will not be oppressed i was already pro it you might be surprised that

00:05:32.120 first cousin marriage isn't banned in this country because it's been banned in various countries including

00:05:36.580 the roman empire and by the catholic church since about the sixth century and other european countries

00:05:41.700 no it turns out that in this country it wasn't it was banned and then it was unbanned by henry the eighth

00:05:48.760 makes sense but he didn't even marry his cousins did he oh he did yeah which really

00:05:55.040 the names in the actual debate which i'll read out oh right okay like many things that have gone wrong

00:06:00.800 no the independents aren't using henry the eighth to try and justify why it shouldn't be banned are they

00:06:05.400 we believe in the true culture of british history well he did have multiple wives so you know and he

00:06:11.660 killed some of them that's true yeah so they headed them as well the representative of the tudor party

00:06:16.300 iqbal muhammad yes um so so he richard holden has put this bill forward basically what happens is he

00:06:22.000 gets time as a member of parliament to propose a bill to be tabled so this was the initial tabling

00:06:27.820 then there would be if it's been agreed upon a motion to vote on it and then it would get a second

00:06:32.880 reading and then it would pass parliament and go to the lords and then be enacted so we have a very

00:06:36.620 long legislative process in this country i'm not sure if you're going to point it out but it would it

00:06:40.620 be worth pointing out that there's a sort of balkanization incentive for the conservatives to do

00:06:44.560 this as in an electoral reason because of course um specific religions have specific voting blocks

00:06:50.980 um the muslims vote labor or increasingly independent i know they're losing that market now

00:06:57.540 obviously the hindus vote conservative uh the sikhs vote reform the sikhs predominantly vote

00:07:03.700 conservative the reform trying to capture the sikhs there's at least a sort of they're more sikh than

00:07:09.280 do you do you want to know do you want some insight into reform's electoral strategy with sikhs 0.97

00:07:14.120 sure so a donor was told by someone who looks at data actually the sikhs are a winnable 1.00

00:07:19.000 constituency for reform and the donor said oh yeah of course because their family values and he said

00:07:23.420 no because they hate muslims they don't get it they don't get it yet but anyway continue but yeah

00:07:31.080 the conservatives if they're seen to be uh targeting islam and therefore the labor party

00:07:36.600 then it's going to galvanize galvanize their hindu base and of course um indians being the main group

00:07:43.260 emigrating to britain and so they're slowly winning over these people and eventually they're just going

00:07:49.980 to be the hindu party or something akin to it and there's a strong incentive to target islam so sort of

00:07:56.980 the enemy of my enemy is my friend well you've certainly identified the exoteric reason for the bill

00:08:02.840 the esoteric reason being given out sorry the other way around the esoteric reason is target

00:08:08.300 islam the exoteric reason is medical necessity oh that's that's quite a weak argument that's that's

00:08:14.940 true but i like josh's esoteric reasoning that we're going to turn into india versus pakistan

00:08:20.500 we already are and i know but i know but kind of overtly now it'll just be part and parcel of british

00:08:26.640 politics so there were conservatives oh sorry there were there were two factions fighting weren't

00:08:31.000 there um over syria so the pro-assad forces and the anti-assad forces fighting on our streets

00:08:37.260 sorry do carry on we had we had the pakistani muslims and the indian hindus fighting in leicester

00:08:43.660 over a cricket game so the conservatives are becoming the brahmin party and labor and the

00:08:47.880 independent cousin marriage party are becoming the pakistani islamic party so there there is one worry

00:08:54.020 about if it does if it were to split the vote like that whereas uh muslim blocs might go more

00:08:59.100 towards voting for their independent candidates who are more explicitly on their side than labor

00:09:03.960 is uh with labor in charge already it might just encourage them to go even more pro islam than 0.94

00:09:10.880 i'm surprised it's not happened already to be honest they there are two aspects you know of the

00:09:16.460 labor party that are completely incompatible islam and wokeism they you know islam doesn't 0.95

00:09:23.920 really go in for that sort of stuff does it hang on in fact it's very much anti what are you are

00:09:27.660 you implying that the muslim councillor shouting ala huakbar which i think is recycling in arabic

00:09:32.340 doesn't care about the environmental issues of the green party are you proposing that um maybe they

00:09:37.640 might only care about the green section of the palestine flag perhaps anyway so the details of this

00:09:41.960 are so richard holden who is the mp for for basil and biliriki uh will seek to introduce the

00:09:49.800 marriage prohibited degrees of relationship bill to the house of commons um and that was on tuesday

00:09:55.500 for further consideration so he announced this on twitter and did a poll and not that twitter polls

00:10:01.780 are great barometers for public opinion though maybe judging by the trump election they are 21 000

00:10:06.940 votes ban it the issues that are huge ban it i already thought it was were clear winners uh keep

00:10:12.660 first cousin marriage because islamic twitter must have found the poll late was five percent

00:10:17.600 west country and muslims basically that is this is the most webbed handshake of all time 0.53

00:10:22.760 leave my fingers out of it robert jenrich also announced support for this so again if you had him

00:10:29.100 as the leader of the conservative party it would be in a healthier place but no you had to elect

00:10:32.440 kemi badenock uh dam carden claire kathino david smith neil o'brien lee anderson andrew snowden

00:10:38.240 john lamont nick timothy katie lamb and laura trott were all present and decided to say yes we support

00:10:44.180 this bill during the vote and on the day even though he wasn't present in the parliamentary

00:10:47.980 chamber because he was occupied by the business rupert lowe tweeted out cousins shouldn't be

00:10:51.580 marrying each other obviously so we've got a cohort of employees just if we couldn't make it more clear

00:11:00.520 london city types telling us country folk how to behave terrible so important statistic as you said

00:11:08.480 is this really for medical reasons or is it targeting a particular community as the word has

00:11:13.580 become this was from last year in last november the bbc delivered the jubilant news that fewer

00:11:19.600 cousins are marrying in the pakistani community emphasis on the word old headline published on

00:11:24.940 my birthday as well that's nice oh nice present there you go so so the bbc not a great birthday

00:11:29.960 present for you though is it less incest in the world well it's pakistani so it's okay okay not my 0.93

00:11:35.980 relatives the bbc pointed out because they used to report on this sort of stuff 10 years ago

00:11:39.240 researchers studying the health of more than 30 000 people in bradford found about 60 of the

00:11:43.840 babies in the pakistani community had parents who were first or second cousins but a new follow-up

00:11:48.860 study of mothers in three inner city wards finds the figure has dropped to 46 percent total victory 0.73

00:11:55.720 slightly less than half we've got to get those numbers up boys the original research also

00:12:02.040 demonstrated that cousin marriage roughly doubled the risk of birth defects though they remained rare

00:12:07.060 affecting six percent of children born to cousins so there is a particular community here who are

00:12:15.140 obsessed with marrying their first and second cousins even if it makes their children disabled 0.97

00:12:19.300 sorry i decided what are you looking i decided very quickly to see what happens if i type in bradford man

00:12:24.900 to google the first thing that comes up is a bbc article from four hours ago man if sar gulza

00:12:31.820 caught with one million pounds worth of class a drugs and jailed who definitely doesn't look as

00:12:38.140 though his parents might have been related he's as british as you and me you absolute big up don't

00:12:42.860 don't know i actually have some stats here for you if you would like yep go for it oh there you go

00:12:47.640 one okay your uh your stats via me first and then i've got some more stats excellent well you tweeted

00:12:52.920 out because you're a purveyor of hate facts that first cousin marriage rates in pakistan

00:12:56.820 65 percent saudi arabia 50 percent afghanistan 40 percent iran 30 egypt and turkey 20 and in rural

00:13:03.880 pakistan 80 in the west i'd like to make a correction here um that turkey is mostly in the eastern part

00:13:09.820 which is the kurds just to throw that out there right that makes because i had lots of angry turks

00:13:14.280 rightfully pointing out that actually um the more european yes were they all tweeting you from central

00:13:20.060 berlin by any chance they were lots of germans there you go uh which far right website did you

00:13:25.460 get this for oh okay yes it was a research paper it's a published journal it's also worth mentioning

00:13:30.880 as well and this is one of my other tweets very self-aggrandizing today so you should follow josh

00:13:35.500 on twitter he's very good thank you wow that's very nice it's all right cheers harry you're not too bad

00:13:41.000 yourself um 2002 study uh revealed that while pakistani babies made up four percent of uk births they

00:13:46.840 accounted for 30 percent of birth defects and in 2013 a larger study found that 37 percent

00:13:51.800 of babies with birth defects were from pakistani first cousin marriages which is 37 times the

00:13:57.920 national average rate of birth defects right so what's important here is of course both defects

00:14:04.900 do matter you are as a parent making the choice to inflict a lifelong disadvantage on your child and

00:14:10.900 the child is the only person who doesn't get a say in the relationship so you should be giving

00:14:13.840 all you can to ensure they're flourishing so that's wrong but let's say for sake of argument there

00:14:19.700 were sufficient measures to ensure genetic test screening and the quality of life of children with

00:14:25.960 birth defects should we still accept this is it just a matter of medical technology and sufficient

00:14:32.660 government resources or private enterprise resources being allocated to ameliorate the problem

00:14:37.960 of disability or is it gross against our culture and we should ban it because we hate it because i 1.00

00:14:42.540 actually think that second one's a much stronger argument and i think measures like this are meant

00:14:47.220 to slow down the deleterious cultural effects of islam the march of darwa the the influence of islam 1.00

00:14:53.700 in our institutions than it is to just prevent birth defects in the abstract i think the notion of

00:14:59.040 banning it will be relatively toothless though i i think it's a good idea to do as much as we can

00:15:04.180 to stop it as much as i am you know from the west country i do think it's wrong and um i just think

00:15:10.780 that they'll either go abroad to marry or lie and it'll be very difficult to prove actually your

00:15:16.640 cousins i think we can do this in conjunction with lowering immigration that'd be quite good but nice

00:15:22.500 yeah yes and i don't know if we should discourage the fifth columns within the country from being as 1.00

00:15:28.560 dysgenic as possible it is when we have to pay for it oh yeah i suppose and also when um marrying your

00:15:35.560 cousin might lower impulse control and increase the likelihood of committing violence against the

00:15:39.380 native population true but bradford is basically not a british town anymore doesn't mean we should

00:15:44.420 abandon it to the cousin marriage party the debate was in parliament so there's there's a transcript

00:15:49.920 as there are with with everything in parliament over at hand side the very useful resource so

00:15:53.980 richard holden gave a speech to propose the law and he gave a history of the law and he says

00:15:59.020 obviously that members in the house might be surprised that this isn't already banned in the

00:16:03.600 middle of the fifth century in england the church practiced the roman doctrine on first cousin

00:16:08.240 marriage so in rome it was banned in the first century in the fifth century in england it was

00:16:12.320 banned i think it was the sixth century when the pope outright banned first cousin marriage imagine

00:16:17.460 still practicing something that was banned in europe in the first century ad by the also by the first

00:16:23.320 archbishop of canterbury so i mean we had better archbishop of canterbury way back when turns out

00:16:29.640 and in the eighth century he received a letter from from pope gregory the the letter

00:16:33.400 cited leviticus 18 6 which says that um basically a man can't uncover his nakedness near his near kin

00:16:41.560 it was an anti-incest thing so it was in in instantiating it not just in england but in the

00:16:46.940 broader domain of the pontificate so the church has been very clever against this and this has been

00:16:51.600 cited as one of the reasons by certain genetic experts like dr jonathan anomaly we've had on the

00:16:56.620 show before of why europe was capable of developing a level of civilization that other places in the

00:17:02.560 world couldn't now this thousand year tradition continued until 1540 when king henry the eighth

00:17:09.400 broke with rome it's all downhill since and legalized cousin marriage between first cousins so he could

00:17:15.800 marry catherine howard his fifth wife and the cousin of his second wife anne boleyn it's the protestant's

00:17:21.200 fault then absolutely as per usual he also i know he also ended up killing both catherine howard and

00:17:26.340 anne boleyn by guillotine that's a hell of a family spat isn't it yeah quite so so it could be said 0.99

00:17:32.180 that that henry the eighth is our first muslim king there you go anyway so it's it's not it's not been

00:17:37.260 changed since and then he talks about the rates here so in the oxford journal of law and religion

00:17:42.560 cousin marriage is practiced by about 10 percent of the world most prevalent in the middle east west

00:17:46.520 africa and north africa where we're getting all of our new migrants from the practice varies

00:17:51.140 enormously within countries and culture reaching its highest levels in of 80 percent in parts of rural

00:17:55.540 pakistan in china and western countries it's less than one percent and he says certain diaspora

00:18:00.300 communities have extremely high rates of first cousin marriage with a rate to 20 to 40 percent among

00:18:04.940 irish travelers and higher rates among the british pakistani community and this is worrying because

00:18:10.880 the grandparents of these migrants in the pakistani community have lower rates of cousin marriage

00:18:15.900 than the first second sorry the second and third generation descendants who were born here

00:18:21.160 who are still entrenching the clan likes so it's getting worse great love that but here's the real

00:18:27.060 reason for the bill and he says this quote anthropologist sir jack goody attributes the

00:18:32.100 church's ban on cousin marriage as the driving force behind the breakdown of barriers between

00:18:35.180 angles saxons jutes and vikings in the early english society as many people were made unable to marry

00:18:40.200 outside their clan sectarian affiliations were gradually dissolved which paved the way for the modern

00:18:44.600 nation state britain is not unique in having had immigration in recent decades from some regions where

00:18:49.660 first cousin marriage is prevalent and therefore there has been a revival in the practice we moved

00:18:54.560 away from centuries ago norway has already banned the practice sweden and denmark looking to do the

00:18:58.320 same much like so-called virginity testing and hymenplasty it is clear that the practice is not really

00:19:03.280 conducive to modern british society so basically he wants to break down the pakistani muslim enclaves 1.00

00:19:08.640 who hate the native population by forcing them to marry outside of their tribe well one of the interesting 0.99

00:19:13.420 things that you brought up about jonathan anomaly i think in other anthropological work you'll have to

00:19:19.040 correct me if i get this entirely wrong josh but i think it was a ed dutton did a recent post

00:19:24.260 talking about how um interfamilial marriage was one way that societies more old societies and foreign

00:19:33.360 societies uh keep their tribal bonds closer because if ethnic groups exist as extended family groups in

00:19:40.620 one way or another actually having it so that you can see the family bonds between each of these people

00:19:45.580 means that you're more likely to be loyal to each other well royal families right the royal families

00:19:50.040 for instance so the fact that the west broke away from that kind of behavior almost 2 000 years ago

00:19:56.400 now is one of the reasons why we're less tribal and more individualistic than other societies across

00:20:03.040 the world because of the fact that we exist as yes a larger family community you could say but the

00:20:08.760 family bonds are much more disparate than they are in somewhere like pakistan where yeah it's more

00:20:13.860 than likely that you're going to run to any number of family members it's almost like he watched that

00:20:19.240 video because that gets cited by the member of the cousin marriage party in parliament according to ed

00:20:26.560 dutton he says yeah this is happening and it's a good thing um yeah so so you could argue based on

00:20:32.460 that if you're saying that it's more practiced among the second and third generations it's their

00:20:36.820 those generations way of trying to maintain their tribal bonds that's the reason why he said we

00:20:41.760 shouldn't ban it yeah uh you raised the royal family as well quick quick thing um most people

00:20:47.560 will go well hang on it's how is it not a british tradition if the royal family are doing it i mean

00:20:50.800 first of all the most recent example of first cousin marriage was between victoria and albert

00:20:56.640 in the 19th century and that led to a lot of birth complications um she had to be heavily drugged 0.99

00:21:03.300 up to even give birth in the first place and a lot of her children had problems and then i think

00:21:07.460 was second cousin marriage between elizabeth and philip which yeah bad enough it's one need only

00:21:15.040 look at a portrait of one of the hapsburgs to know that it's not a good idea right yeah and they didn't 1.00

00:21:19.500 exactly govern the the whole of europe very well but in terms of the clan like structure here are

00:21:24.280 the disadvantages so i did a write-up of basically the sort of grooming gang cases recently that we've

00:21:29.120 covered on the show and i found an interesting quote from a chap called muhammad shafiq his three

00:21:34.940 cousins were jailed as part of the rotherham grooming gang trials and he said and i i quote

00:21:41.200 in here i'm just trying to find the actual quote in a moment i've already skimmed over some here it

00:21:48.820 is horrific quotes there so he said that um the crimes of the hussein brothers his cousins represent

00:21:55.820 a stain on the pakistani community that can never be scrubbed away and for this reason some british 1.00

00:22:01.080 pakistanis have deliberately buried their heads in the sand and see any of us who try to tackle 1.00

00:22:04.860 this problem as siding with the white enemy the sad reality is that in the case of on-street gang

00:22:10.860 grooming there is an over-representation of pakistani men until british pakistanis accept that this is a

00:22:16.140 problem for our community we will not be able to eradicate this evil burying our head in the sand

00:22:20.220 as the usual response is not good enough so basically the the intermarrying family clan structure of

00:22:25.340 british pakistanis has created a cover-up culture so they know that their their brothers friends

00:22:31.360 fathers and cousins are going out and sexually abusing white british working-class girls and they

00:22:36.600 say silent because of the family pressures because they know they're going to be intermarrying blood 0.57

00:22:41.140 runs thick doesn't it the other thing that i'd like to highlight from this is that's all very good

00:22:46.680 and well to say that you need to stop burying your heads in the sand what if it is not that they're

00:22:51.120 burying their head in the head in the sand but just that they don't even see it as evil in the

00:22:55.120 first place because it is the white enemy that they're targeting that was the motivation of a lot

00:22:59.980 of them yes exactly and and so that perception of it being in group out group is let's say further

00:23:06.880 entrenched it's also impossible to really get rid of you know you have lots of these these tests that

00:23:15.140 try and test for unconscious bias and all it does and to mitigate it as well all it does is make the

00:23:22.320 effects more prominent because it makes them more salient in people's minds and so you your preference

00:23:28.460 for people genetically proximate to you is one of the most entrenched aspects of human nature possible

00:23:34.060 you can't really make it disappear because it's what determines your preferential treatment of your

00:23:39.880 family and you know it does extrapolate to wider society as well the further away you get

00:23:44.380 but that is probably your your bond with your family is the strongest instinct you should have

00:23:50.500 and trying to fight against that is a losing battle in my opinion which hopefully means that if this were

00:23:55.520 to pass people that would want to marry their cousins and not have those marriages disrespected

00:23:59.500 because you would need to say that if you have married your cousin you're not allowed to come to

00:24:02.820 britain because that's committing a criminal act they have to go abroad marry there stay there or the

00:24:08.000 very limited numbers of people who the native population themselves would want to marry which is a very

00:24:12.540 slim minority anyway organically would intermarry and break up the clan structure or if you try and 0.97

00:24:17.660 marry a cousin you've committed a crime you get deported that's beneficial the lone dissenting voice 0.95

00:24:22.540 on this entire debate we return to mr iqbal muhammad i'm just going to play his his contributions because

00:24:28.860 i i can't accurately summarize there are documented health risks with first cousin marriage and i agree

00:24:37.300 this is an issue there is there is this is an issue that needs greater awareness on virginity testing

00:24:44.420 forced marriages and the freedom of women must be forced marriage must be prevented and the freedom of 0.60

00:24:51.540 women must be protected at all times however the way to redress this is not to empower the state to ban

00:24:59.460 adults from marrying each other not least because i don't think it would be effective or enforceable

00:25:05.780 instead the matter needs to be approached as a health awareness issue and a cultural issue where

00:25:13.300 women are being forced against their will to undergo marriage in doing so it is important to recognize

00:25:20.980 for many people this is a highly sensitive issue and in discussing it we should try to step into the

00:25:27.780 the shoes of those who perhaps are not from the same culture as ours to better understand why the

00:25:35.380 practice continues to be so widespread an estimated 35 to 50 percent of all sub-saharan african populations

00:25:44.020 either prefer or accept cousin marriages and it is extremely common in the middle east and in south asia

00:25:51.300 the reason the practice is so common is that ordinary people see family intermarriage overall as something

00:25:59.780 that is very positive something that helps build family bonds and helps put families on a more secure

00:26:07.300 financial foothold however as is well documented it is not without health risks for the children of those

00:26:16.180 relationships some of whom will be born out of wedlock instead of stigmatizing those who are in cousin marriages

00:26:25.620 or those inclined to be a much more positive approach would be to facilitate advanced genetic test screening

00:26:33.220 for prospective married couples as is the case in all arab countries in the persian gulf and more

00:26:39.620 generally to run health education programs targeting those communities where the practice is most common

00:26:48.340 i would therefore urge the house to vote against this motion and to find a more positive approach to

00:26:54.580 addressing the issues that are caused by first cousin marriages including the health health risks and

00:27:02.660 the consequences of modern conflicts and displacement of population around the world thank you

00:27:13.220 so translation uh support all of my foreign policy ventures that empower islamic states also pay more

00:27:19.140 money for genetic test screening to ensure that my children don't come out with birth defects because

00:27:23.140 i want to shag my cousin money please money please i mean i was half expecting him to get up and go

00:27:29.780 oh listen my parents are cousins and i turned out all right mr speaker my cousin is incredibly attractive 0.95

00:27:36.660 you can't expect me to abide by this that was another good one is that put put yourself in the

00:27:41.380 shoes of people from other cultures and presumably they don't wear shoes think of think of your own

00:27:47.460 sexy cousins out there what you would like to do to them it was you're right it wasn't incredible

00:27:52.340 understand where we're coming from it was an incredible argument to not bring any of those people here ever

00:27:58.500 and to send them home so they can live married to their cousin but i just wanted to pause it on this

00:28:02.660 again if you would have 10 years ago done this as a skit one lone muslim mp arguing around a bunch of 0.71

00:28:10.340 bored confused native white british politicians wondering why the hell they're even having this

00:28:15.540 debate and say this is where multicultural is going to bring us you couldn't get a more just

00:28:20.020 is frame was a stick in the loop i liked how he took a pause and uh that np on the left there

00:28:26.180 thought it was over and then as soon as he realized he's speaking again he reached for his phone

00:28:32.500 now what's what's important to note here for those who aren't studied up on their quran like myself and

00:28:37.060 josh um verse 4 23 and 33 50 actually permits the marriage of first cousins because it turns out that

00:28:43.780 muhammad's seventh of ten wives um was his first cousin very convenient revelation how old was this

00:28:49.700 one above age unlike aisha oh okay so very convenient revelation for allah to have bestowed upon muhammad 1.00

00:28:56.020 because you know it'd be terrible if scripture didn't support him marrying his first cousin

00:29:01.140 this is zayna bint josh and she is considered the mother of believers so she's basically like

00:29:06.020 the islamic mary but with more incest so that's why they're decided to defend that um this is a

00:29:12.740 purely foreign ideology and we should ban it the problem is we have people who enjoy said foreign 0.75

00:29:17.060 ideology running the covenant government because robert jenrich decided to ask his counterpart

00:29:21.220 justice minister shabana makmood whether or not she'd want to ban it completely deflected 0.59

00:29:27.860 downing street themselves said that they have no plan to legislate against cousins marrying and said

00:29:32.900 that guido forks keir starmer himself has no opinion on cousin marriage the blank slate just like he

00:29:39.540 has no dreams no favorite films yeah he's probably colorblind yeah it's just he's gray he's kind of

00:29:46.500 like a dog so so so we might be laughing about this and you know less lovable it would be great if this

00:29:51.780 could be tabled and passed as legislation because it might help to slow down the growth of this

00:29:56.260 constituency for the cousin marriage party because it is growing because um as i reported last week

00:30:01.300 muhammad is now the most popular baby name in england so we can look forward to the cousin marriage

00:30:06.740 party probably governing britain into the future right we've got some rumble rants need a wheelchair

00:30:14.020 for every muhammad don't we also it says street it says on the screen we've got here stream is over

00:30:19.300 displaying two cached rants is everything all right oh okay that's all right then no worries uh five

00:30:26.580 dollars for the engage for you connor if you guys want increased website revenue it's gone it's gone

00:30:30.900 there it is you should leave the shilling to josh his dulcet voice and amiable speaking

00:30:34.900 style could persuade the ioc to make puppy kicking in olympic sport is that saying i'm 0.97

00:30:38.980 shit at my job you're not as good a salesman apparently no it's it's somebody who is apparently 0.60

00:30:45.380 uh a fan of ours simping for josh yeah this is luna's alt account i i could i could persuade 0.99

00:30:50.660 anyone to part with their cash if i so wish but i don't wish it i want you to be responsive

00:30:54.980 stop telling your girlfriend from sending in super chats right dog breath the third i have norfolk

00:30:58.340 on the phone where do siblings stand um josh this is your area of expertise again

00:31:03.060 um i feel like siblings is too too close i think they probably have an excellent center of gravity

00:31:08.340 with the suction cups on the bottom of their feet bobo bad i like to refer to south park for wisdom 0.97

00:31:13.700 here and this this could be i'm not reading that out shut your effing face uncle effer there you go i 0.94

00:31:22.740 remember that episode i don't i don't i remember the song but i can't remember anything else about 0.98

00:31:28.020 the episode i do remember miss chokes on dick one of the early recurring characters i think we should

00:31:33.940 move on all right so i've got good news everybody which is that daniel penny is not going to prison

00:31:43.220 good there you go excellent it turns out that thing that he did which was defending the other

00:31:48.820 people around him was not illegal in new york yet and so he will not be punished for it and

00:31:54.980 this was after quite a long trial after a lot of trouble initially with the jury selection because

00:32:00.500 there was the worry that they weren't going to get jurors who would be able to empathize with the

00:32:04.260 situation that he was in and this is after the jury were left at a deadlock as well regarding one of

00:32:10.820 the two charges which was a second degree manslaughter which the prosecutor a woman called

00:32:17.860 dafna yoren uh decided to drop which seemed to have been for the prosecution the fatal flaw

00:32:24.660 because that left the jury at the deadlock but on the charge of homicide intentional homicide was

00:32:29.300 obvious it was obvious that clearly he wasn't trying to murder well after he left the scene was when he

00:32:35.300 died so if it was intentional homicide it's a bit of a tough sell isn't it it certainly was especially

00:32:41.140 given some of the other information that seemed to have come to light during the trial but i'll go over

00:32:45.940 that in a moment so they deliberated for five days before declaring him not guilty even that

00:32:52.980 bit long that's ludicrous given the interview footage that we've seen of penny cooperating with the

00:32:59.060 police officers eyewitnesses saying that he saved us the people that helped him restrain jordan

00:33:04.900 neely on the ground because neely had been walking up and down as a complete schizophrenic

00:33:08.740 homeless drug addict saying i'm going to kill people i'm going to go to jail i don't care should 0.98

00:33:12.900 never been prosecuted in the first place but the fact that it was brought to trial should have been

00:33:16.580 an open and shut case well it's an alvin bragg prosecution he's the one who brought the case

00:33:22.100 forward doran yeah one i'm just gonna have to remind myself daphna yoren i think is an assistant da so 0.82

00:33:29.780 she was the one prosecuting it so this was as you would expect in new york entirely politically

00:33:35.220 motivated because it was a white man seemingly attacking a black man therefore it had to be 0.89

00:33:41.460 racially aggravated therefore there is no excuse for it so we had to bring it forward the problem

00:33:45.620 is that as the law still stands turns out you're allowed to defend other people do you think that

00:33:50.660 the reason that they deliberated for so long is the fact that after um floyd they thought well if we

00:33:57.700 don't make this guy take the fall for this they're gonna burn new york to the ground possibly but i

00:34:02.820 don't think the energy is there anymore because that has been some protest but nothing on the scale

00:34:08.340 of george floyd especially because the footage of the incident came out basically straight away

00:34:13.460 whereas the police footage of the george floyd incident was held back for almost nine months if i

00:34:19.380 remember correctly i think it came out in december of 2020 or maybe even january of 2021 so there was a lot

00:34:26.260 of time uh where we didn't see that footage and the only footage that was available of george floyd's

00:34:32.420 death was the one that initially got released on social media where it looked as though derek

00:34:36.900 chauvin was kneeling on his neck of course there are a lot of other comparisons to make with the george

00:34:43.220 floyd case as well particularly the actual reason that jordan neely died but i'll get that to that

00:34:49.140 a moment in this bbc article they also mention that mr neely's father andre zachary was removed from the

00:34:55.140 court after the verdict because he began shouting and you could hear chants of no justice no peace

00:35:01.460 heard from outside from protesters despite this the actual courtroom supposedly applauded

00:35:07.220 after the verdict was read out and zachary neely's father again said it hurts it really really hurts

00:35:14.260 what's going to happen to us now i've had enough of this why was mr zachary not around to save his son

00:35:21.220 from being a vagrant drug addict on the streets of new york and why was he not married to jordan

00:35:26.500 neely's mother who as far as i understand it jordan neely's schizophrenic trauma was onset by the fact

00:35:32.260 that his mom was murdered by an abusive ex-boyfriend and her body was left by the side of the road in the

00:35:37.140 suitcase yes that was when he was 13 years old there's not much that i've seen reported on jordan

00:35:43.620 neely's father's involvement in his life after that because most of the other most of the rest of the

00:35:48.100 information that we know about jordan neely is his trouble well is one as they mentioned in this bbc

00:35:53.620 article that he was a michael jackson impersonator who performed in times square oh well done to him

00:35:59.060 well he died of a drug overdose so he's doing a pretty good michael jackson impression certainly he

00:36:02.900 is but the only other things that i've seen consistently reported about him was all of his

00:36:08.660 run-ins with the law like again they say in this article it is one sentence after another in the same

00:36:14.500 little paragraph it's quite funny sadly mr neely was a michael jackson impersonator who performed

00:36:19.460 in times square oh how nice he had dozens of previous arrests on charges such as evading fares

00:36:25.140 theft and assaults on three women upstanding character yeah so most of what we know is about

00:36:30.500 that also his time spent in psychiatric institutions which he was actually supposed to be in when this

00:36:36.660 incident took place but he had gone in i think spent three weeks in there and then just walked out

00:36:41.220 just walked out and then he was able to harass people in public and before getting himself in

00:36:47.060 this situation now regarding the actual cause of death they mention of it in this new yorker article

00:36:54.980 and i'll read through a bit of this here so the defense did its best to discredit the

00:36:59.460 determination made by cynthia harris one of the city's medical examiners of the cause of neely's death

00:37:04.820 which she put as compression of the neck via chokehold if neely hadn't died from penny's chokehold but from

00:37:10.660 another cause any other cause then a reasonable jury would have no choice but to acquit the

00:37:15.620 defendant stephen raiser raiser one of the defense lawyers who later referred to penny's chokehold as

00:37:20.740 a civilian restraint which sounds like a pretty reasonable uh characterization to me pointed out

00:37:26.820 that harris made her opinion on the cause of death before the toxicology report the molecular

00:37:31.620 genetic report the anthropology report and the neuro pathology report had been reviewed so she

00:37:38.500 watched the video she watched the video and said oh we choked him out that's why so that's like the

00:37:43.620 family coroner who made the verdict on the george floyd case and then the the report the actual

00:37:48.500 autopsy came out and he had zero bruising and compression on his neck or muscles he had a high

00:37:54.340 lethal dose of fentanyl three times yeah well let's hear let's hear harris's explanation as to why so

00:37:59.780 razor asked her how could you determine whether the results of those tests were unimportant

00:38:04.820 before knowing what the results of those tests were she responds no toxicological no toxicological

00:38:11.700 result would have changed my opinion he could have come back with you know enough fentanyl to put down

00:38:16.740 an elephant and i would have just thought that he walked into the subway with a huge amount of

00:38:20.900 fentanyl in his system and then put in a chokehold in which he died so it doesn't matter the evidence

00:38:27.940 the re the evidence and the logical inference you can take from that does not matter he died of a

00:38:32.820 chokehold because i say he did that's astounding you'd even admit that it's ridiculous but we know

00:38:38.260 how it operates we know we know that this was just an attempt to to have daniel penny be the avatar of

00:38:44.500 straight white men in america and be put on trial to condemn america as an avatar given the now the

00:38:50.660 the results he's a pretty good one i mean highly competent heroic and good looking yeah it works but

00:38:55.380 the fact that this woman just just said the thing she shouldn't be anywhere near this case she should be

00:39:00.900 bashing rocks together preferably in a prison for what she should not be making any qualified 0.76

00:39:06.500 decisions in a case like this or at the original point where she was deciding what was the cause

00:39:11.620 of death clearly she does not have the reasonable unbiased judgment to make that decision right

00:39:17.780 because she just said i i decided it because i decided it she deliberately tried to send this man's 0.57

00:39:22.820 prison basically the defense attorneys for their part brought forward a different doctor dr satish

00:39:28.420 chundrao who argued that the cause of neely's death was the combined effects of the street drug

00:39:32.980 k2 so he was high on this street drug i've not heard of it before i assume i assume it's some maybe

00:39:38.980 fentanyl or k2 is a mountain uh also of acute schizophrenic psychosis and physical exertion which

00:39:46.100 all contributed to a death by sickle cell crisis in which one's red blood cells clump together and stop

00:39:52.500 moving leading in this instance to asphyxiation sickle cell is something that affects black people

00:39:59.060 exclusively isn't it yes so that seems like a much more reasonable explanation for what happened given

00:40:04.180 that we can see in the footage that was released by the police that jordan neely was still breathing

00:40:10.260 after daniel penny released the chokehold in fact we could see from the original footage

00:40:14.020 well the police themselves still breathing didn't want to give mouth to mouth to jordan neely because

00:40:17.540 they knew he was a homeless drug addict and didn't want to catch hiv yeah that was the reason given 1.00

00:40:22.100 they're enough to them as well um one of the things they teach you when you do first aid is

00:40:26.580 if you don't like the look of the person you're not legally obligated to give them mouth to mouth

00:40:31.300 which i think is a very sensible rule they also tried using chest compressions to keep him alive

00:40:37.540 and he died later on after being removed from the scene so why would they have used chest compression

00:40:41.860 based cpr if he wasn't alive and why would you even assume at this point that penny had

00:40:47.860 much at all to do with the fact that he died because if it was physical exertion yeah you

00:40:51.220 could say that being held in that but he was already physically exerting himself very agitated

00:40:55.780 very animated from what they say so who's to say that the physical exertion he was putting himself

00:40:59.700 under wouldn't have contributed to the same effect anyway as again with george floyd where clearly

00:41:05.860 from the police footage that we saw after it was released he had already begun foaming from the

00:41:10.980 mouth due to a combination of methamphetamine and fentanyl he was in a state of excited delirium

00:41:15.620 before he asked to be put on the floor well yeah he refused to get in the car didn't he that was

00:41:20.900 his choice to do that then he started kicking people so thankfully penny seems to have got more

00:41:25.940 of a fair hearing than derek chauvin did and um as a result he celebrated by doing the only thing

00:41:31.940 that he could straight to the bar let's get a drink down as lads and it's actually quite wholesome

00:41:37.540 to see it's genuinely very nice to see him like this because the whole way through the trial

00:41:42.260 proceedings and the media hysteria up to that point he'd done a very good job of remaining stoic

00:41:47.780 and remaining measured and presenting himself very well and now you get to see him just you know

00:41:52.260 how you feeling yeah he's feeling good he's feeling good he's feeling good what's up

00:41:58.100 come together how's it going how's it feel feels great he's finally got the justice he's deserved

00:42:07.700 did you think it was going to happen sorry yeah people were making the joke that yep the first

00:42:13.220 thing a free irishman does straight to the bar fair point i think he is possibly he's part italian

00:42:19.540 well part italian he's north italian he's totally justified in celebrating the fact that his life was

00:42:25.140 not deliberately ruined by race communists in the american government completely but another mark in

00:42:31.780 favor of the character of daniel penny and the fact that he is just in general in in general a good and

00:42:37.460 honorable person is this interview that he did with fox news where he was asked whether he would do it

00:42:43.860 again and he responded like this i mean i'm not a confrontational person i don't really extend myself

00:42:51.540 and like this type of thing is very uncomfortable all this attention and limelight is

00:42:57.940 very uncomfortable and i would prefer without it i didn't want any type of attention or praise

00:43:05.700 or and i still don't um the guilt i would have felt if someone did get hurt if if he did

00:43:15.140 do what he was threatening to do would never be able to live with myself and i'll i'll take a million

00:43:24.900 court appearances and people calling me names and people hating me just to

00:43:34.580 keep one of those people from getting hurt or killed

00:43:38.740 a man lives by his ability to justify himself to his own conscience you really can't say more for

00:43:44.020 the man than just to watch that clip and see that it doesn't matter to him to him what the

00:43:48.420 consequences were he was helping people and he was keeping people safe so that was the thing at the

00:43:53.700 forefront of his mind and that's still the thing at the forefront of his mind so congratulations to

00:43:58.180 him for that some of the reactions have been good so uh count dankula good friend of justice dankula

00:44:03.060 announced that as a result we're having a white boy christmas so that was a good one and live footage

00:44:07.700 from the streets of new york where new yorkers have realized that it is now safe to traverse the streets

00:44:14.820 if you're white again

00:44:18.980 that's mgmt in their college days isn't it it might be it definitely is i recognize it might be but

00:44:25.140 they were all out on the street saying it's safe again lads we've done it but be be warned that the

00:44:31.060 penny case will not stop them because the carl rittenhouse case didn't stop them no i i i know

00:44:35.860 i know uh but there was also an other aspects of the case which was this um this

00:44:41.380 daphna yoren character she looks like she drank from the wrong cup at the end of indiana jones 3 1.00

00:44:46.500 i certainly agree with you there but she became a bit of a character in this in herself if only

00:44:50.980 because of the quite marked comparisons between how daniel penny looked and how she looked but also

00:44:58.180 the daily mail reported on some of her previous cases that she'd taken care of for instance uh this

00:45:05.620 one if i scroll down uh where she had said in 2019 she had asked for a reduced punishment for matthew lee

00:45:13.780 a 57 year old man after he snuck up on a former lemon college professor dr young kun kim 87 years old

00:45:21.700 and killed him over 300 with a fatal blow to the back of the head what what demographic is mr lee

00:45:28.740 i don't know okay i don't know uh yoren said that she saw an opportunity in lee's case to use the

00:45:34.660 restorative justice program introduced by the former manhattan da cyrus vance jr as reported by the

00:45:40.820 gothamist i had a murder case where the defendant did not intentionally kill the victim yoren boasted

00:45:48.100 during an online seminar so this was one of her proud cases and when i got the time uh the time

00:45:53.220 i took the time to learn about the defendant and i felt really incredibly sorry for him that he had

00:45:57.940 gotten to that point in his life where he felt there was no choice but to commit this robbery and

00:46:02.980 presumably to kill a man over 300 that's how much people's lives are worth to um daphne yoren

00:46:10.260 apparently so in this circumstance she's able to say oh i feel bad for you oh shock

00:46:16.500 is matthew lee he's a black man i thought so that's no surprise so just another i heard restorative

00:46:23.780 justice and my spidey senses tingled i heard asian victim and my spider all of that put together there 0.79

00:46:29.380 was a pattern forming but uh it seems that we are undefeated as pattern recognizes as always

00:46:35.780 unsurprising but yeah so she does this for this guy but daniel penny actually steps in to protect

00:46:41.780 people and she's like right i'm on this case so unsurprisingly alvin bragg's new york insane

00:46:48.820 progressive assistant da's and prosecutors going after good people just trying to help the normal

00:46:54.740 innocent civilians of new york who want to just get on with their day not feel threatened on the subway

00:47:00.500 well his election was funded by soros that's well i'm not that surprised uh but you know it shouldn't

00:47:06.180 be part and parcel of living in new york or any major city in america or the uk or europe that

00:47:11.300 you're just expected to be okay with feeling like you could be murdered at any moment not pvp servers

00:47:16.820 all right no it's not that part of runescape you know but of course now you get all of the bleeding

00:47:22.820 hearts come out and say what should have happened well he needed help jordan needed needed help and not

00:47:30.100 a death sentence he did get failing people with failing people like him but yeah as you point out

00:47:35.700 he did get help he refused the help and there was nothing else that you could do about it

00:47:40.580 so what what are you going to do you just the the law enforcement in new york seems to be perfectly

00:47:45.780 fine with these kinds of insane vagrants on the streets threatening people so of course in that

00:47:51.540 circumstance in that situation eventually like what happens you're going to get a daniel penny

00:47:55.780 step in try to protect people not even actively try and hurt the person just try to restrain him

00:48:02.020 and then because of a combination of psychosis sickle cell and massive drugs massive amounts of

00:48:08.820 drugs you die experiencing homelessness as well in the subtitle again i just want to point out every

00:48:14.580 single time it's very insidious how they do this because it it sets man's basic state as the

00:48:20.580 as as as as the state providing you a bloody mansion like no we don't we don't pop fully

00:48:26.420 formed out of the womb into a house that lock or rolls uh was it hard so definitely it was rousseau 0.97

00:48:32.500 saying in state of nature man was automatically granted some kind of two-story shit box yeah quite 0.80

00:48:39.300 it's his his bug consumption pod i don't remember that part so so yeah i didn't read it it was between

00:48:44.100 the lines all the assumptions about anthropology are always baked in the subtitle and the article dismiss

00:48:49.380 these nutcases out of hand yeah there you go everybody is entitled to social housing at least

00:48:54.580 in london that's for sure uh black lives matter decided to weep about it we need a world where 0.97

00:48:59.540 empathy replaces fear and compassion replaces violence how about where homeless people can't

00:49:05.700 just freely abuse people on the subway hey in a world that has some justice left in it apparently

00:49:10.660 that's really annoying on the train yeah i would be really annoyed by that like just i i hate when

00:49:16.740 people play egocentric freaks who just want to get attention from me no i'm not going to give you

00:49:21.460 any money leave me alone if i wanted to listen to michael jackson i have spotify stop begging for my

00:49:25.060 money that you're going to go spend on drugs it annoys me that people even answer the phone on the 0.63

00:49:28.260 train let alone anything else also blm you're irrelevant no one cares go away all of your prominent

00:49:35.140 leaders sold out bought their mansions and moved on give it up nobody cares anymore protesters were on the

00:49:42.580 streets doing exactly what you would expect but guess what no one cares there's like 10 of them

00:49:47.380 yeah exactly there's a few there's a fair few but not enough because nobody cares anymore nobody cares

00:49:53.860 everybody who has any sense has looked back at the george floyd riots and gone a that was a disaster

00:49:59.940 that hurt people got people killed and destroyed a lot of property be completely unjustified in the

00:50:04.660 first place because anybody with sense goes oh well he died of a fentanyl overdose they don't believe

00:50:09.940 that derek chauvin actually intentionally murdered him anymore was was jordan neely from palestine

00:50:15.620 because i just want to point out there's a lot of kafirs and palestine flags here and it's weird

00:50:20.340 this must be that multi-racial working class banding together i hear about yeah because it's strange

00:50:25.620 because a former fbi guy traced all the phones at kamala harris rallies and he found out that all the

00:50:30.660 crowds at her rallies had been to all of the other rallies loads of people coming from mexico and canada

00:50:35.380 and loads of people had also been had their phones traced to blm and palestine marches

00:50:39.300 so like like they were professional protesters being bussed about maybe yeah like a renter mob

00:50:44.260 how how curious that they they get mobilized yeah that's funny how that happens isn't it oh well

00:50:49.940 nothing to see here anyway the n a n double acp even more irrelevant than blm these days also did the 1.00

00:50:57.700 exact same thing but the most entertaining thing really was a blm co-founder i assume a regional co-founder

00:51:04.340 a man called hawk newsome not related to gavin as far as i'm aware or tour uh decided that what we

00:51:10.900 need in response to the law being upheld and what we needed in response to the law being upheld was

00:51:17.940 black vigilantes on the streets just like everybody else has vigilantes we need some black vigilantes 1.00

00:51:27.300 isn't that just crime jump up and choke us and kill us for being loud 0.99

00:51:35.940 pretty sure per capita there are more black vigilantes than any other group 0.98

00:51:40.900 yeah he he's going like you want 50 percent we'll make it 60 how about 70 percent hang on

00:51:47.780 tarik nashid informed josh the logistics are impossible so i think they need to convene the

00:51:52.260 elders hey man discuss how this is going to happen clearly they're getting organized okay logistically

00:51:57.300 it was only 50 so far but with this kind of leadership sky is the limit so jokes aside that

00:52:02.500 guy just said we want race war basically how do you have a country with these people you can't yeah 0.96

00:52:07.460 so he needs to go to prison you can't uh but there for all of the celebration and for everything

00:52:12.420 good that's come out of this for all of the entertainment uh there is still a threat which is

00:52:16.820 going back to jordan neely's father andre zachary is uh going to try and take jordan uh take daniel

00:52:24.260 penny to civil court over a civil lawsuit for damages done and uh i think the uh if i scroll

00:52:32.100 down here uh he wants to uh damages for alleged physical assault and battery okay right this is

00:52:40.020 and uh this is obviously an article that came out before the trial had finished but i've looked and

00:52:44.100 seen that after it he is still seeing yeah he's still pursuing it you're trying to make money off 1.00

00:52:48.420 your son's corpse when you didn't help him out when he was alive yeah right you're scum but the 0.98

00:52:52.820 american legal system does allow for something like this so i imagine i imagine that it will go nowhere 0.98

00:52:58.740 but still even if it goes nowhere it'll be a very timely and a very costly route to nowhere so i can

00:53:05.060 only hope that this gets either nipped in the bud as soon as possible or that or that penny continues

00:53:10.180 to receive the support when it goes to a civil case because he's not out of the woods yet folks

00:53:14.580 because no matter what this will end up costing more money so if he needs more financial support

00:53:19.780 and there are routes open to donate absolutely support him in this very good speaking of

00:53:24.660 financial support we've got three quick rumble rants the engaged feud for five dollars daniel

00:53:29.540 penny should have left new york so fast that his shadow left skid marks on the wall that wretched city

00:53:34.180 doesn't deserve men like him quite it's a shame though the idea that you have to forfeit your own city 0.98

00:53:41.300 your own homeland just because a bunch of violent vagrants and leftists decide to ruin the place 0.98

00:53:47.300 also another one i love connor's expression while harry was reading that prosecutor's justification

00:53:50.980 of barbarism i think that was the the coroner's yeah the coronary he looked like he wanted to say

00:53:56.980 that i don't well they're not a hermaphrodite actually said it out loud so yeah well thank you

00:54:00.980 for the five dollars anyway uh bobo bad k2 is a synthetic cannabis derived drug it can have anywhere

00:54:06.500 between 10 and 100 times the effects of a joint and can cause overdoses surprise it didn't paint

00:54:10.900 neely as a climber for his k2 love to be fair i've obviously i've never touched anything like

00:54:16.580 this but i've heard of uh similar synthetic cannabis yeah like spice in the uk which i've

00:54:21.940 crazy making yeah i've only ever been told by people do not touch it because i've known people

00:54:26.580 at festivals who've known people who've taken it and went crazy it's rife in prisons and it's causing

00:54:32.100 real addiction issues josh mouse please thank you so i'm gonna have to keep it brief because we don't

00:54:39.860 have a massive amount of time but right i think i'm ready so monkey news i promised you this december

00:54:47.780 i'm only going to do positive stories and that's very much what's going to happen and what i'm doing

00:54:52.820 is i'm bringing back a much beloved series from another show because uh when ricky gervais steven

00:54:58.900 merchant and carl pilkington had a show together they had a monkey news segment and i always really

00:55:05.060 enjoyed them because i like monkeys um i don't know about you guys monkeys apes i like them 0.61

00:55:10.340 they're interesting channeling my inner joe rogan here and um i can't i wanted to go over the year's

00:55:15.940 news i can't believe you didn't start with the the thing with the thing yeah i'm not gonna do it

00:55:22.180 because i respect people's ears because it's really loud oh that one okay i'm not asking you to shout it

00:55:27.540 i'm not going to i might do a little monkey noise later just to placate you if you want

00:55:32.100 that would make me happy yes thank you here's something from the european research council

00:55:36.980 so this is eu funded research and they were looking at monkeys who can guess

00:55:41.540 what why they were looking at monkeys this is the eu remember putting to the panel i'm also

00:55:46.180 going to have a look at the chat who can guess is it was it testing if monkeys are multicultural 0.58

00:55:50.820 because it says a monkey's perspective on culture oh you got it in one that's cheating yeah i mean

00:55:55.940 it's the eu so they're going to try and say return to monkey means infinite bemalians so and i that 0.91

00:56:03.060 sounds suspect but that's not what i mean hello context so it says when an immigrant male shows

00:56:09.940 a habit like opening peanut shells this can quickly spread throughout the group while it is known that

00:56:14.740 monkeys often copy high-ranking individuals or that young monkeys mimic their mothers learning from

00:56:18.900 immigrant males is less expected because they're usually not well integrated into the group

00:56:23.140 unintentionally snuck a bit of based in there boom based monkeys they don't like multiculturalism 1.00

00:56:30.340 just like me i'm literally a monkey in essence immigrant males can either conform to the

00:56:36.900 group's existing behavior uh see uh or introduce new knowledge that benefit the entire group so

00:56:44.820 monkeys banning in monkey they're banning cousin marriage as we speak i suppose yeah so you can 1.00

00:56:48.260 either get integrated monkey or imperial monkey yes that's pretty much it but it's funny that the eu

00:56:55.780 was funding this research just like we need a we need a person in the field studying monkeys so we

00:57:01.860 can understand the state of play of european politics the next next eu research is going to be

00:57:07.860 are monkeys racist well it's gonna it's gonna the reason for this is absolutely going to be to 0.63

00:57:12.900 manufacture consent for the idea that multiculturalism is man's natural state because if monkeys are a most 0.98

00:57:17.460 common ancestor and monkeys are multicultural it's ingrained in our anthropology to have these little 1.00

00:57:22.340 ethnic satellite states that all hate each other living together under the jurisdiction of the eu 0.99

00:57:26.660 it also carries on to it also carries on to say that high status males are the ones that struggle

00:57:31.860 most to integrate which i find putting down masculinity and promoting immigration terrible but anyway um

00:57:40.820 another thing that has happened is this and i was very surprised to read this headline

00:57:45.140 monkey saved six-year-old girl from uh sexual assault attempt

00:57:49.140 in uttar pradesh which uh surprising no one this is a province of india um much can be said about um

00:57:57.860 how the monkeys actually acted in a more moral way than the person perpetrating it

00:58:02.260 um which is a real condemnation of their moral character um and this actually led me down a route

00:58:07.940 this isn't monkey news this is a little tidbit of something else no um also i think this was in kenya

00:58:14.900 um ethiopia ethiopia close enough um lions save girl from kidnappers and so turns out nature can be

00:58:22.180 more moral than human beings sometimes i'm not sure the lions were uh you know they had a moral

00:58:27.780 objection this was also 2005 so uh yeah it's fake news that this is this year they're big cats they've

00:58:33.620 got big hearts i also think that if we harness the power of monkeys much could be done so

00:58:41.140 there's uh an article here video shows monkey driving a bus in india um we'll be more on time

00:58:47.940 than tfl that's true wait would you like to see the video are you suggesting we fill the skills gaps

00:58:54.260 we can fill we can fill the skills gaps with a much less demanding populace we pay them in bananas

00:58:59.860 rather than money they don't need social housing they can put some of them in funny little tux suits 0.92

00:59:04.340 uh tuxedos oh with little fez yeah yeah with the pezzes yeah yeah it's a great plan josh and and of

00:59:11.220 course they won't cause similar problems because of this um but here's the video let's have a look

00:59:19.460 shall we um because i was quite impressed actually here he goes i don't know what the music's about

00:59:27.620 yeah some of these i'll probably need to i thought i was driving home for christmas

00:59:31.220 look at him go he's even spinning with a wheel look i think he's got a little bit of help there

00:59:37.540 but he's he's but not it's nothing that four monkeys couldn't do that's true if there was

00:59:42.100 another monkey to help him adjust one on the gear stick yeah uh i also like that the bus driver was

00:59:47.380 only suspended oh it's just like it's okay that you let a monkey drive in the in the uh bus once but 0.89

00:59:54.260 if you do it again maybe we'll have to fire you it reminds me i don't know if you've got it there's

00:59:58.580 that video of i think it's the orangutan in the golf car driving about and he goes across the tiger

01:00:04.740 and the tiger is so confused i like how it kind of looks at the tiger and sort of smiles to itself 0.99

01:00:11.380 as it turns back so it's like looking at the tiger you primitive fool 0.98

01:00:17.540 so they can also be used for other things here's some indian street food um delicious 0.95

01:00:22.420 um i think the monkey is the most hygienic part of this you see obviously messy uh little monkey

01:00:28.340 fella doing the dishes look at him he's good he gave it a kiss good look he's actually quite a good

01:00:33.540 dishwasher i'll you know he's not got a rag or anything but he's even reversing time and that's

01:00:39.380 true i mean he's he's just adopting the cultural practices of india in not using any well not being

01:00:44.820 funny washing it in dirty water do you remember do you remember when we watched those those

01:00:48.580 haitians making those dirt cookies yeah he's actually more sanitary that is true that is a

01:00:55.300 step up you're not actually eating dirt um so there's also this which i quite enjoyed they're

01:01:01.860 they're also very useful in taking pictures for people soy jack monkey monkey denified 0.87

01:01:08.980 so they can drive buses they can wash dishes they can take pictures for people and they can go on reddit

01:01:14.020 clearly yeah apparently so he just got bought a nintendo switch don't don't mock him all right

01:01:18.820 no no the man behind him got bought the switch that's true and it came with zelda as well so this

01:01:23.780 is a long-tailed macaque in bali um and this was april of this year i i just thought it was quite

01:01:29.220 wholesome i don't know how they got it to do it though because it looks like it's actually taking

01:01:33.300 the picture for them yeah i think they don't have their hands involved there how did that happen

01:01:38.900 must have just been a really well-behaved monkey i guess so um but it's worth mentioning not all

01:01:45.700 monkeys are that well-behaved and nice and i personally love the chaos of this video

01:01:50.580 it's one of my favorite videos at the minute i've watched it about 10 times

01:01:53.860 i just love the chaos of it it's wonderful hotel room it does

01:02:10.660 it does make me want to get a monkey even though it is being a nuisance i don't know

01:02:22.260 what it is i just feel like i could do more evil with it really i mean look at it go nomad

01:02:28.420 scientist is completely that monkey assistant that is true you just want to be barbosa no josh

01:02:33.940 obviously wants to be west country as well yeah there you go look at it he's even playing games um

01:02:40.340 i'm unintentionally selling wires that's true stealing towels you get the idea he looks terrified

01:02:51.300 what have i done but they do actually have a sense of humor we found out apparently this is a recent

01:02:57.940 study um and i'm going to read uh directly from the article great picture as well um our results

01:03:03.620 support he's got a delayed getting the joke like sat there oh yeah yeah our results support the

01:03:11.220 idea that teasing in great apes is a provocative intentional and often playful behavior isabel

01:03:16.500 laumer a postdoctoral researcher and lead author of the study told bbc science focus it is typically

01:03:21.620 asymmetric and can take different forms of varying proportions of playful and aggressive features

01:03:26.980 in all um the researchers identified 18 distinct teasing behaviors these include repeatedly waving

01:03:32.820 or swinging objects in the middle of the target's field of vision i think we've all done this

01:03:37.060 um hitting or poking you know going just to be annoying uh this is just describing my childhood

01:03:45.060 staring closely at their face and pulling their hair i mean this does sound like children's

01:03:51.940 behavior really doesn't it it's just like my daughter

01:03:54.500 you've got a little northern monkey in the waiting there yeah that makes sense um however um

01:04:04.420 it's not all roses so here is a young girl walking home and she has to have an airsoft machine gun to

01:04:11.140 avoid being um attacked and having her food stolen by the little it's a shame that's a cute little 1.00

01:04:16.580 monkey yeah look at him he looks so scared well to be fair give him some food love go on i know uh this

01:04:23.300 is in thailand but the the idea that you've got to actually open carry an airsoft gun to deter

01:04:30.420 monkeys from attacking you is quite something she must be incredible shot as well 1.00

01:04:36.660 she looks more like she's mugging the monkey give me all your bananas you've got them on you 1.00

01:04:43.060 she's actually trying to hold up the monkey hiding behind the pole there just like 0.99

01:04:46.340 trying to mug the the little monkey but anyway um speaking of india and monkeys um they've actually

01:04:52.820 got monkey machines now they've recently installed them as of september to scare away the primates

01:04:58.900 which they they emit a high-pitched noise that the monkeys don't like and they stay away from the

01:05:03.460 taj mahal because apparently they were harassing tourists because they are of course xenophobic they

01:05:08.660 don't like foreigners in india and um bcfo'd again that's true and also i want to introduce you to 1.00

01:05:17.940 this what this is is the biggest ape ever to have lived it's not this isn't living it's not a real 0.62

01:05:25.940 not real now this is a reconstruction what's he doing with his arm i i know we'll get to that come

01:05:32.260 here often so i mean the other arm this is mussolini somewhere off camera there's actually

01:05:39.460 a better one there you go they mysteriously turned out to be austrian painter enthusiasts for some

01:05:45.780 reason but this is gigantopithecus blackie um the largest primate ever and they they were found and

01:05:52.420 discovered in cave deposits in southern china and apparently they were three meters or ten feet tall

01:05:57.860 and 200 to 300 kilograms or 440 to 660 pounds heavy so they were big and they existed between 2.3 million

01:06:07.380 and 255 000 years ago so they at least coexisted for 45 000 years roughly-ish sort of porous boundaries

01:06:16.980 there with modern anatomically modern human beings hang on gigantic ginger bit racist what i'm not scottish

01:06:27.700 but you've admitted you're ginger i'm not ginger either definitely ginger i'm not deeply closeted

01:06:33.700 ginger at least i'm not irish fair enough but um there was recently um some some more research and

01:06:42.020 they use multiple dating techniques uh luminescence u series in the sr and environmental analyses like

01:06:47.620 pollen charcoal and isotopes as well to find out that the extinction window was 295 to 215

01:06:54.340 15 000 years ago and apparently there were morphological changes in their tooth size which

01:07:00.180 suggests rapidly rapid dietary change and therefore climate change apparently the uh the lush rainforest

01:07:07.940 habitat began to recede and uh this was due to increased seasonality and so it's climate change and

01:07:14.740 it couldn't adapt like other things and therefore it slowly began to die out so actually this is uh not

01:07:20.340 climate change propaganda because of course i don't think um 300 000 years ago we had fossil fuels

01:07:26.420 um so it was actually proof of natural climate change killing things and rapid change as well

01:07:32.180 where animals die off just worth pointing that one out um and yeah there's another picture of it

01:07:37.940 being uh controversial so another big story monkey news and probably the biggest monkey story of the

01:07:45.060 year big monkey big monkey yeah the big monkey news is this south carolina story because of course um

01:07:54.820 not content with the the hurricane news um there was a lockdown in a small south carolina town after 43

01:08:02.900 monkeys escaped from a bioresearch lab where they didn't lock the doors properly now i i think it's

01:08:08.740 quite cruel to actually use monkeys for bio research also this right around the time they've announced

01:08:15.300 another 28 days later sequel i know they're really inviting aren't they this is just a really elaborate

01:08:23.940 marketing campaign makes sense but there were 43 rhesus macaques and um they managed to capture 39 of them

01:08:32.020 whilst four remained on the loose this is as as of 19th of november and uh what i did find funny as

01:08:39.380 well is that they were worried that the monkeys couldn't survive because obviously it's not their

01:08:43.140 natural habitat and they found two of them eating peanut and jelly sandwiches when they were caught i

01:08:51.380 really like the idea that when they they round up all of the monkeys they're going to get one through

01:08:55.860 42 and then one just labeled 44 someone should go around to painting numbers on them i'm not saying

01:09:02.020 i should do that but i also like in this article that they said when they captured these two monkeys

01:09:08.020 that were eating their sandwiches um some other monkeys that were still free were taunting the people

01:09:13.620 they were making noises around them just like we're out here come get us and they weren't actually able

01:09:18.580 to get them which is hilarious um and you know four monkeys still free remember and uh actually the

01:09:29.300 company that accidentally released them stopped providing updates on the missing monkeys so it might

01:09:34.260 mean they're gonna be home free those four monkeys and i for one hope for the best for those monkeys

01:09:41.860 because uh i want them to be free i like the idea that the like the raccoons and pompoco where they

01:09:46.660 eventually just like morph into humans and start taking on jobs they become indistinct they'll find

01:09:52.100 one of them in the back of a takeaway washing dishes one of the scientists is going to get on

01:09:57.300 a bus and there's going to be four monkeys in a trench coat operating and he's going to do a little

01:10:04.420 double take and he's going to go nah must be my imagination well considering they've been taunted by the

01:10:11.300 monkeys and they found them eating better than when they were in the lab i'd imagine there's a few

01:10:16.500 traumatized people about and um there's also news about monkeys changing you know monkeys can change

01:10:24.500 so uh well this is some and one day josh i i one day i'll stop dragging my knuckles on the ground

01:10:31.460 that's so calloused um so we found out recently um that marmosettes use distinct calls uh to address 0.99

01:10:39.460 different individuals in much the same way that people use names we found that out this year and um that

01:10:44.980 makes them the first non-human primates to know how to use name-like vocal labels for individuals

01:10:50.100 which is nice and we're starting to understand them a bit better i don't know what that is around

01:10:54.500 its neck it's got a weird thing it looks like if you drop a suite down the side of like your car and

01:11:00.820 it picks up all the debris that builds up that's what it looks like it's got on its neck also looks like

01:11:05.300 it's got a bit of eye shadow on it does it's like the jd vance of the marmosette world um so it's also

01:11:15.300 worth mentioning as well um there was a hurricane in puerto rico and the monkeys became kinder to each

01:11:22.660 other they're actually they're actually better than femur they are yeah rather than the the biden run

01:11:29.940 femur uh they actually responded with kindness after a disaster i'm going to read here rhesus

01:11:36.660 macaques are native to asia but primatologist clarence carpenter introduced a colony of hundreds

01:11:41.220 of them to puerto rico in the 1930s in an effort to study the creatures closer to his home

01:11:46.820 and they say it's and this is a direct quote it's crazy things have changed so much since the

01:11:51.300 hurricane says camille testard and f not um ethologist and harvard university the monkeys are

01:11:57.780 less aggressive and they form these larger groups and interact with monkeys they've never interacted

01:12:01.700 with so it means that after this this disturbing thing the monkeys have realized maybe we should

01:12:08.020 settle our differences and uh they're more pally with each other after they've experienced a hurricane

01:12:13.220 which if i were a monkey and had no notion of what a hurricane was and that the entire sky started

01:12:19.620 you know storming at you i think it would change your perspective but it's interesting a little

01:12:25.140 window into the mind of the monkey and um oh samson's saying i have the orangutan in the golf cart

01:12:31.460 video if you want to show it at the end um i'm happy to uh have you pull it up at any point because i

01:12:36.900 it might be a good point to end on actually let's save it to the yeah save it for the end okay um

01:12:42.420 it's also worth mentioning as well that we found out that orangutans i don't want to look at the

01:12:46.340 wounded orangutan it makes me feel uncomfortable but um apparently orangutans in the world applied

01:12:52.020 medical plants to heal their injuries which i didn't know was a thing and we found this out

01:12:56.500 recently and they say um it's possible that they were treating a wound with uh fibraru uh tinctoria

01:13:04.580 began as a fortunate accident the researchers say noting that the plant has a potent pain relieving

01:13:09.540 effect adding that by applying a poultice the orangutan's main goal may have been to protect

01:13:14.820 his wound from flies as in just blocking it out so that what flies don't get in the open wound and

01:13:18.820 say lay eggs and things like that which is something that we have observed in primates but

01:13:22.820 we haven't used them seen them actively going out of their way to use medicine and you know the pain

01:13:28.500 relieving effect would probably make it very much salient in a primate's mind because they still

01:13:34.180 learn through reinforcement and so they will be able to remember and of course they probably got

01:13:38.820 much more sensitive sense of smell so they would be able to identify the same species again

01:13:42.740 um to use it again and it also says uh because orangutans are believed to be uh to keep adding

01:13:49.220 skills into adulthood through social learning um it's possible that the treatment strategy could

01:13:53.780 also spread socially from individual to individual which is very interesting isn't it that

01:13:59.620 eventually orangutans will learn medicine we'll have some in the nhs in no time i imagine

01:14:04.900 um and then the penultimate thing i want to end on and this is from 2021 but it blew my mind when i think

01:14:12.180 it was samson telling me about this um that there was a war between chimpanzees and gorillas so um

01:14:19.940 you know what's it called the one where the monkeys take over planet the eight how did i forget that

01:14:25.780 it's all starting to feel very like pre leading up to we've had escaped monkeys from a bio lab 0.87

01:14:32.260 monkeys are starting to learn how to use medicine and language and language and they're conducting wars on

01:14:38.020 each other and they're showing in group preference they are yeah it is a great setup part of your plan

01:14:45.380 isn't it josh i definitely don't have a basement full of monkeys that i'm breeding for war that

01:14:50.660 definitely doesn't happen i can't wait for the out of context clip on that one if you're the government

01:14:55.060 do not check my basement there is not hundreds of cages of monkeys on protein powder and steroids

01:15:02.820 lifting heavy weights one of them's escaped there's one

01:15:08.500 but yeah apparently there are organized chimpanzee and gorilla wars apparently in the wild which i

01:15:14.100 didn't realize and it's to the point where they can be lethal i don't know what it would look like

01:15:19.140 because my money would be on the gorillas because they're bigger and stronger but they're also more

01:15:23.540 peaceful chimpanzees are more prone to aggression than gorillas are really surely it depends if the

01:15:29.460 chimpanzees form kind of like gorilla murdering squads and take them out one by wearing specific 1.00

01:15:36.340 colored shirts and going out and targeting gorillas when they're on their own well they can also scale

01:15:41.620 trees and higher places easier so they could actually do aerial attacks bananas like mario kart in 0.86

01:15:47.700 front of the gorillas making them slip with a comedic

01:15:51.540 right have we got the orang video so did the chimpanzees win then oh it's ongoing

01:16:01.220 this is the war that the u.s state department doesn't want you to know about

01:16:05.140 yeah who is the cia funding well at least they're funding both sides yeah because that that way they

01:16:10.580 get banana republic that was quite good israel's waiting on the sides to claim some territory

01:16:16.580 as well the treetops so here we are this is probably my favorite monkey video but it isn't from this

01:16:24.260 year um this is this is actually the orangutan driving the golf cart here i just i preferred it

01:16:32.180 when they had um fleetwood mat track background and they added in the sound of him indicating as well

01:16:39.460 which i thought was a brilliant edit so casual he looks so unfazed i wish i was that calm driving

01:16:46.100 now i thought he was on edge so so someone put like a brick on the accelerator no he can reach

01:16:52.180 no yeah he can't reach yeah his feet are too small it's a golf cart are you disbelieving the monkey

01:17:00.740 i just i love it i love the arm the top of it he's loving it look like ryan gosling the thing is he's

01:17:06.420 also like preemptively turning the steering wheel before he gets to a corner to get a better turn

01:17:12.020 this is you know you're seeing the racing lines oh here we go here's the fateful part

01:17:17.540 here's the tiger what wait and see for the little smile when he turns back

01:17:21.300 yeah yeah it's just brilliant i mean this is what we should be doing you know forget deliveroo drivers

01:17:36.180 i'm a little monkey fella at least we'll turn up on time that's true yeah if you're accidents

01:17:41.140 i mean it's cheaper to pay them in bananas they're less demanding and clearly they they're more than

01:17:46.180 capable to drive you know we've seen both golf carts and buses they can wash dishes they can take

01:17:52.260 photos you know forget your wedding photographer get a monkey um it's way way more fun kids will love

01:17:59.220 it um so yeah um i'm starting my business monkey hiring services um i'm looking for my first funding

01:18:05.940 round so if you're an investor uh check it out with that on to the video comments i suppose

01:18:12.020 do we have any today samson okay all right are there any video any more videos of monkeys that can

01:18:19.460 be sent in send oh we've got some uh we've got some rumble rants yeah we do oh we've only got

01:18:25.220 one extra one because all of the rest of them have you got a monkey rumble rants i'm um rumble

01:18:30.260 you're letting us down yeah thread naught for five dollars said blm at it again this isn't related to 0.89

01:18:35.380 monkey news uh making people hate black people fantastic i just love learning to hate people because of 0.85

01:18:40.740 their race again not related to monkey news i'm just clarifying on with the video comment

01:18:50.020 i can hear samson wheezing in there it's also worth mentioning sorry not always

01:18:55.300 involving the base date christmas very quiet to this american the thought of

01:18:59.700 can you go back to the beginning yeah thank you i've turned it up on our end

01:19:05.780 i've noticed british people seem to always look forward to the christmas turkey

01:19:09.540 to this american the thought of any bread eating turkey is odd my quick research showed it turned

01:19:14.660 from a high-class exotic christmas meal to one that the expanding middle class ate in the victorian days

01:19:20.100 at the end of a christmas carol scrooge brings out turkey as a show of generosity before this roast

01:19:25.540 beef or goose was generally the go-to meal and now you know how an american bird invaded christmas in

01:19:31.140 england gobble gobble we still have beef and also i think we do ham even though i'm the biggest fan

01:19:36.660 of pork but i can't eat a goose i just feel too bad i hate geese yeah i'll happily eat a goose

01:19:42.500 if you tried to serve me swan then yeah maybe i'd have trouble no i'd eat swan i know you would have 0.97

01:19:47.300 you seen the um muslims in this country abducting the swans yeah they're eating the swans oh goose 1.00

01:19:52.900 just the one swan actually on christmas day turkey goose or beef i'd be happy because they're all 0.90

01:19:59.060 delicious i've got a tie with geese i can't do it you've got a goose i feel a little bit bad about

01:20:04.580 eating duck even though it's my favorite meat i can't eat duck either i've fed too many of them

01:20:08.100 i just feel too bad i can eat a chicken happily i know that if a chicken were man-sized it would eat

01:20:12.020 me so the only time i've had duck is a recent wedding that i went to where it was served as pate

01:20:18.900 like i hate pate it's disgusting so i you've got to spread it quite thin otherwise it becomes too

01:20:24.100 rich i no i just hate pate on toast it's a disgusting texture it's good for you as well

01:20:30.100 my controversial opinion is that butter is a condiment that's the most british thing you've

01:20:35.460 ever said are you like squirting it from a bottle onto you yes you know when you know when you get

01:20:39.940 little plates like when you go to a fancy dinner you've got little plates of butter butter to dip

01:20:43.940 yeah i mean if you've got breadsticks garlic butter perhaps no no so you know when you get

01:20:49.140 oh my goodness voice of god you know when you get you know when you get little pots of butter

01:20:52.980 at a fancy dinner and they usually do bread rolls i'll take it if no one else is eating the bread

01:20:56.660 roll and then just use it to put on my chips or like i'll just stick it on my steak later that's

01:21:01.220 all right eat butter i mean that if you just put it on i'll tell you what i had i had some tea cakes

01:21:06.340 for breakfast the other day i hadn't had that in years and with just some salted butter over the top

01:21:10.900 it was divine it does sound nice i'm making myself hungry now sorry so the people paying our bills

01:21:15.700 should we go on to the next one i think kent mansley from the iron giant is the hero of the

01:21:24.820 story inorganically shoehorned to be the villain for the sake of having a villain a patriot trying

01:21:31.620 to protect his country from a weapon of mass destruction while hogarth is an obstinate of the

01:21:37.620 brat who ends up endangering the entire town out of his selfish desires that is an interesting reading i

01:21:45.060 i remember really loving the book as a kid and i wasn't too keen on the animated film so i'd need

01:21:49.780 to revisit the story in order to give a verdict i've not watched the animated film since i was a

01:21:53.940 kid i remember loving it but i do remember doesn't the iron giant doesn't he destroy himself at the

01:21:58.900 end of the film yeah he sacrificed himself yeah yeah so that's one percent of the time

01:22:04.420 that's a good ending for for everybody involved in that case

01:22:08.420 on to the next one so if you can't deport someone to their home country because they might be harmed or

01:22:13.940 killed and it therefore violates their human rights doesn't that also set the precedent that

01:22:18.740 sending people like tommy or peter lynch to a prison where they'll be harmed or killed

01:22:23.220 is a violation of their same rights of course you have your two-tier legal system but i'm

01:22:28.180 surprised nobody's even tried that argument even if just to further expose what a farce the legal

01:22:33.540 system and the ehrc is no the problem with the argument is they believe that everyone except

01:22:40.100 the far-right racists who don't agree with the blank slate is a blank slate and so the problem

01:22:44.100 isn't that these people have caused their country to be this inhospitable hellhole because obviously

01:22:48.260 there are people persecuting them and so if you move people en masse you just recreate the conditions

01:22:51.940 of the country it's that they're just in that place it's just being on that soil in and of itself

01:22:56.980 makes them awful but if you bring them over here then they're fine allow me to paraphrase kanye west and

01:23:02.420 don't worry um which song the government doesn't care about white people that's why that goes on 0.85

01:23:10.260 yeah you could say that the application of human rights is the uh they don't think white people

01:23:14.260 are human in the first place unless you're albanian well questionable questionable if they're white native

01:23:20.020 british yeah they don't think we're human so therefore we don't get human rights anyway the fact

01:23:25.060 that we went and conquered the rest of the world set kind of in their eyes separates us to such a degree

01:23:30.980 that we're not allowed to be considered on the same level as everybody so thanks for the compliment

01:23:35.300 boba bard with a one dollar rumble rant says i would like you all to consider orangutan drivers

01:23:40.020 cleaner more polite smarter better smelling that's that's the advert for them on with the last one

01:23:47.060 a friend of mine is a therapist and freely admits she can do nothing to help her clients

01:23:51.140 if she does anything and it goes wrong then she will be in legal hot water so she must simply

01:23:55.140 encourage her client to talk while she listens i fear that so many advertised mental health help

01:23:59.860 services are simply snake oil here's a game you can play to sound like a mental health expert

01:24:05.220 repeat the last two words of what someone has said to you back to them you'll be astonished at how it

01:24:09.620 gets people to flesh out their thoughts never engage with what they're saying simply repeat the last two

01:24:14.820 words it was actually um in the early days of computers uh there was an experiment run where a

01:24:20.660 computer just repeated um pretty much their question back to them more or less exactly the same and they

01:24:27.140 knew this was going on but it also had a similar level of success to actual talking therapy

01:24:32.980 that makes what you've both described there is the solid snake approach to conversation have you ever

01:24:40.740 played the metal gear solid games yes of course yeah yeah well in that case you'll have noticed that

01:24:45.460 solid snake in the first one in particular most of his dialogue is just repeating the last two words

01:24:50.580 that was said to him in a but with an air of confusion snake there's a security camera there

01:24:56.740 security camera and that's most of his dialogue through the whole game like mad eye moody there

01:25:03.540 yeah close enough right on with some of the written comments before we wrap up uh carl's gallon tub of

01:25:09.220 null noil i know even i didn't oh i know what i know what it is but it just doesn't sound right

01:25:16.420 i despise the argument that incest is wrong because it could lead to a deformed child

01:25:19.620 consequentialists cannot explain why gay incest is wrong even though there is zero chance of it 0.72

01:25:24.740 leading to pregnancy john stuart mill btfo there was actually an argument on pink news about why gay

01:25:28.980 incest is okay i saw that of course there was of course there was also the idea that these people care

01:25:35.060 about disabled children and wouldn't also advocate for aborting them is highly disingenuous yeah see

01:25:39.060 i see well yeah what was his face iqbal his arguments are we need more more pre-screening

01:25:43.940 for these things and i was just thinking like what so you can just abort them yes that's that's the 0.99

01:25:47.780 whole plan is that let us marry our cousins and then kill our deformed children if their daughters 1.00

01:25:54.100 oh if they're yeah uh biggie bigfoot you should know that banning first cousin marriage were very 0.99

01:25:58.340 little effect in the islamic community as the majority have nikar weddings islamic marriages that are

01:26:03.220 not recognized under law and so also don't bother registering officially i think they would just

01:26:06.900 continue as usual completely under the radar potentially sure anything we can do to make

01:26:12.820 it more difficult i think and baron von warhawk some of the effects of inbreeding on the human

01:26:16.740 mind is decreased iq higher levels of aggression low impulse control and declining cognitive abilities

01:26:21.860 i can't read that last part because we're not in a free country moving on harry oh yeah so uh

01:26:27.220 baron von warhawk again after serving in the marine corps uh the same government he spent four

01:26:32.180 years of his life serving betrayed him and tried to send him to prison for defending his countrymen

01:26:36.580 from a raving madman with a history of violence doesn't matter that he isn't going to jail the

01:26:40.820 government has branded him as racist something that will haunt him for the rest of his life 0.97

01:26:44.740 all because he committed the crime of being white no committed the crime of trying to help people

01:26:50.020 whilst being white depends where he lives as well i think if he does relocate to a better state

01:26:54.100 sadly that's made a necessity but you know if he went to florida yeah i was going to say florida or any

01:26:59.220 of the red states i think he'd get a hero's welcome people have already said that he'd probably

01:27:03.300 be able to get the the fox news speaking tour and make a load of never need to buy a drink again will

01:27:07.860 he no i think more than anything as well his character that he's demonstrated after as well

01:27:13.220 before when he was actually trying to help people during the media frenzy in the trial where he showed

01:27:18.500 him a great deal of restraint and stoicism and then afterwards where he said i i would help people all

01:27:24.500 over again if put in that situation has shown that he is just a good person he'd make a perfect police

01:27:28.980 officer uh george hap happy that daniel penny didn't get the derrick chauvin treatment but the

01:27:33.860 lesson here is quite obvious don't play the hero for strangers unless you want a media trial and to

01:27:37.540 live in a constant danger from this point onwards sadly yeah if you live in a city like new york and

01:27:42.100 you're trying to act in your own rational self-interest at all times then that is the lesson that you're

01:27:47.380 going to take from it but that doesn't make for a good community and that doesn't make for a safe

01:27:50.900 community that's the tragedy of it paul newbar even though penny is freed it's the process that's

01:27:55.860 the punishment but even the jury couldn't buy the state's case alvin bragg needs to be impeached yes

01:28:01.220 he does and people have already been calling for that josh so basic based ape says you have no 1.00

01:28:06.660 idea how happy this segment makes me monkeys are my favorite animal believe it or not i don't believe 0.92

01:28:10.740 you you're making it up you have to prove that uh north fc zoomer says monkeys indian rapists

01:28:16.580 austrian painters and blackies all in one segment josh has decided on the path of chaos 0.99

01:28:20.660 what do you mean decided i've been on this trajectory for a very long time

01:28:26.740 um and eloise says more of this white pill monkey content thanks and uh sam weston says i'm pleased

01:28:33.700 to see that lotus eaters are carrying on carl pilkington's good work by giving us top priority

01:28:38.100 monkey news i mean that was legitimately the year's monkey news i i scoured the internet for this

01:28:44.100 this is my my top researchers were on this this this entire week alternative media josh was just

01:28:49.700 watching this video over and over and the one of the one in the hotel room never let it be said

01:28:54.420 that alternative media doesn't do better work than the mainstream anyway gents pleasure as always i'll

01:28:58.580 be back in half an hour of tomlinson talks otherwise we'll be back tomorrow at one

01:29:02.100 o'clock for the regular podcast take care and goodbye

01:29:12.980 merry christmas

01:29:24.980 christmas

01:29:25.860 christmas

01:29:39.380 We'll see you next time.

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - December 11, 2024

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1061

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