The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1069

00:00:00.680 Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters episode 1069. Nice. And it's today the 23rd of December 2024 and today is the last live podcast of the year. How are we all feeling gentlemen?

00:00:17.040 Merry Christmas-y.

00:00:17.980 Well I'm getting over a gastric flu so I am feeling considerably slimmer than I was about a week ago. But don't worry it's all physics more out than in.

00:00:27.700 It's a Christmas miracle.

00:00:28.580 It is. On this Christmas, Christmas Eve.

00:00:31.480 Sadly though the news that we have to present to you all today is less than festive and jolly and merry and other synonyms.

00:00:38.940 In fact it's going to be talking about the horrifying Christmas market attack that happened at Magdeburg on Friday.

00:00:44.700 How anti-racism provides cover for the kinds of perpetrators of such attacks.

00:00:50.140 And we're going to finish off with a very jolly story about the new New York fairy tale about somebody being set on fire.

00:00:56.640 So yeah.

00:00:59.540 I'm really sorry about this by the way.

00:01:01.300 You know like we wanted to do like a nice jolly Christmas themed podcast but events happened.

00:01:06.300 But the world is awful.

00:01:07.280 Yeah the world is just awful.

00:01:08.820 And unfortunately we talk about these things on the podcast so we have no choice.

00:01:13.200 I can't get over that tiny headshot attack.

00:01:15.460 Listen it's not mine.

00:01:17.100 I got it from a friend who charged a strange interest rate on it but it's all right.

00:01:22.720 I'm good for the money.

00:01:24.360 Yeah so shall we get on with it lads?

00:01:26.980 Yeah yeah.

00:01:27.620 Let's go on then.

00:01:27.900 Okay so something very terrible happened recently in Magdeburg.

00:01:33.940 There was a Christmas market and everyone was enjoying their last minute Christmas shopping at this market.

00:01:40.160 And suddenly a car plowed through it at high speed.

00:01:44.100 So far to this point killing five people and injuring 200.

00:01:49.980 One of the five killed is a nine year old boy.

00:01:52.220 This is of course awful.

00:01:54.300 Don't need to say that.

00:01:55.100 But it's one of those things where unfortunately this is not something we don't expect anymore.

00:02:03.380 Which is why we have various bollards I suppose we call them.

00:02:09.120 What do we call the?

00:02:10.000 The bollards of peace?

00:02:11.140 The bollards of pillars of Islam I think they're called. 0.99

00:02:13.620 I think they're called.

00:02:14.400 That's one term for them.

00:02:15.720 Yeah but in Germany they've decided to kind of beautify them.

00:02:20.540 Turn them into like Christmas tree shaped concrete bollards.

00:02:23.840 Well and the ones where they don't they I think they spray paint dank Merkle on them.

00:02:28.920 Oh right do they?

00:02:29.820 Yeah.

00:02:30.540 The point is this is this has been a perennial feature of Christmas in the West for quite a while.

00:02:36.020 Now since the advent of unfettered immigration.

00:02:39.880 And so it's just something we have to deal with.

00:02:42.660 And so when I heard about this the other day I wasn't actually terribly surprised that this had happened.

00:02:47.700 Of course disappointed and shocked but this isn't the first time and I doubt it's going to be the last unfortunately.

00:02:54.600 Anyway so as the BBC tell us the attacker was a man accused called Taleb Al-Abdolmosen.

00:03:04.380 Traditional German name.

00:03:05.500 He was a Saudi Arabian immigrant to Germany and he had conducted the attack at about seven o'clock at the time and it just driven.

00:03:15.340 It somehow got past the bollards and driven just straight into the thing.

00:03:19.980 I'm not going to play the video obviously because it's awful.

00:03:22.060 Utterly horrific.

00:03:22.860 I couldn't get to sleep until about four o'clock in the morning after I saw this.

00:03:26.080 It was just.

00:03:27.380 It's just.

00:03:27.800 I had the same experience as many.

00:03:30.600 Get home.

00:03:31.440 Think oh I wonder if I've missed anything.

00:03:33.140 Check my phone.

00:03:33.880 First thing I see is the video.

00:03:35.420 Yeah.

00:03:36.040 Awful.

00:03:38.620 At first people thought it was an accident and then of course it turned out not to be.

00:03:43.740 The officers were already at the market.

00:03:45.580 They arrested the driver.

00:03:48.100 So Al-Abdolmosen arrived in Germany in 2006 and in 2016 he was recognised as a refugee.

00:03:55.420 Again from Saudi Arabia.

00:03:58.660 He ran a website that was aimed to help other former Muslims flee persecution in their Gulf homelands.

00:04:05.980 And he was even interviewed by the BBC about this in 2016.

00:04:09.600 Here he is wearing a fedora.

00:04:13.040 He is literally an ex-Muslim new atheist. 0.65

00:04:16.380 The poster boy to the extent where the BBC wanted to feature him.

00:04:20.060 Indeed.

00:04:20.380 Indeed.

00:04:20.540 And the German interior minister Nancy Faeser told reporters that it was clear that he held Islamophobic views.

00:04:29.560 Which raises a bunch of questions.

00:04:31.420 And again I think it's important to highlight here yes Islamophobic views, ex-Muslim, wearing a fedora, what many would like to claim to be integrated but whether or not integrated is an accurate term here.

00:04:45.800 Still very tribal in his allegiances.

00:04:49.040 Well I don't want to go too hard on that angle because we...

00:04:53.240 That's certainly how I see it because the first thing he does is like oh well I need to immediately start a foundation to get more people like me here.

00:05:00.380 Because I've moved to a foreign country that's allowed me in, given me refuge, what's the first thing I'm going to do to pay them back? 0.99

00:05:07.420 Well I need to make sure that I'm surrounded by as many people like myself as possible.

00:05:12.000 And that is definitely a valid angle as well.

00:05:14.640 I'm not saying it's not valid.

00:05:15.940 I just don't want to lean too hard on it.

00:05:18.140 Because there are other things that are happening.

00:05:21.020 But you are right.

00:05:21.920 Like he's definitely got sympathies for his, you know, people like him, you know, other Arabs who are presumably, assuming he is honest in his anti-Islamic stance. 0.99

00:05:35.260 Now I just want to be clear, there are lots of people saying well this isn't really true.

00:05:38.260 But the thing is he did this for a decade.

00:05:40.560 And he's got, he had a long Twitter history of being integrated into the kind of ex-Muslim or anti-religion community.

00:05:48.220 I don't know if the Takiyah thing is right or not, but the point is, is that he found a system that worked, which is claim that I've got an ex-Muslim, therefore they're an apostate in Saudi Arabia, therefore you have to let them in. 0.95

00:06:01.600 Yeah, and that is true.

00:06:02.780 And the thing is, I'm not saying that there aren't, there isn't a sort of, from the liberal perspective, a morally legitimate cause there, right?

00:06:11.180 There are lots of people who are ex-Muslims in Muslim countries who want to leave, who do actually like the West, and who do actually think well of it. 0.80

00:06:19.920 The sort of Ayaan Hirsi Ali types, right?

00:06:22.140 Who do think well of the West and don't want us to destroy ourselves, and who are, I guess, as the German Interior Minister would describe them, Islamophobic.

00:06:30.260 But who aren't necessarily saying we have to bring in as many people.

00:06:33.500 I mean, that's what he did with his foundation.

00:06:35.760 The issue, I think, is the, that I take most objection to, is the instrumentalization of Germany and the German people in this guy's worldview.

00:06:47.260 Because it was clear that he viewed being in Germany and what he could get out of Germany as a means to an end, rather than as an end in itself, which I think is really the problem.

00:06:58.020 But the thing is, this then opens up questions of, well, how could you ever know whether that's someone's plan or not?

00:07:03.540 And the answer is, you can't.

00:07:05.280 And this leads us down various other rabbit holes that we'll get to in a bit.

00:07:09.300 So anyway, it became apparent that because he was an ex-Muslim Islamophobe, he was a big fan of the AFD.

00:07:20.540 They do, in this political article, point out that he supports the AFD, and he was a supporter of Tommy Robinson, he's a supporter of Gert Wilders, he's a supporter of Elon Musk.

00:07:35.240 He is essentially what we would describe as centre-right in the classical liberal mould, as far as we can tell.

00:07:43.140 And the left seemed to have really embraced this angle of it, which is an odd line to take, to say that because he supported an anti-immigration party, therefore, when an immigrant commits mass murder, that invalidates the argument against mass immigration.

00:07:58.900 Yeah. And also, OK, he's so Islamic, he's so anti-Islamic, but he attacks a Christian Christmas market.

00:08:05.700 Yes.

00:08:06.000 It's a strange thing to do. And that's why there's been a cloud of mystery around his motivations.

00:08:13.020 With this whole supporting of the AFD, it says, allegedly, I've not seen any, because I know he's got a very well-documented Twitter account that people have been combing through.

00:08:21.540 I've seen his responses to Gert Wilders, I've seen some of the other things. What is the evidence that he supported the AFD?

00:08:28.880 Just tweets in favour of it.

00:08:30.160 OK.

00:08:31.100 So, same with Tommy Robinson and Elon Musk, a lot of it's coming from his Twitter history.

00:08:36.000 And apparently, he wanted to stop the spread of Islam. And, of course, this means he's far right. 0.96

00:08:44.880 So, he is a self-proclaimed leftist. Again, if we can just play this.

00:08:52.280 And I'm saying this as a leftist. I'm not on the right.

00:08:55.940 And what I discovered, as a leftist, is that leftists are the worst criminals on this planet. 0.97

00:09:08.100 Now, I mean, I agree with that. 0.96

00:09:09.600 That is actually true, but yeah.

00:09:11.780 The point being, though, he is precisely the sort of classical liberal...

00:09:16.020 I wouldn't call this classical liberal. What I would call this is, I left the left, neocon.

00:09:22.880 If you're going to attach any sort of ideological label to it, it's...

00:09:28.680 I mean, even the rampant anti-Islam perspective is very, very...

00:09:34.380 Reminiscent of Christopher Hitchens.

00:09:35.780 Not necessarily Christopher Hitchens, although he was also a neocon. 0.70

00:09:38.760 But it is all part and parcel of the neocon world for you in Outlook.

00:09:42.720 Sure, but the problem of calling me a neocon is it kind of implies that he wants liberal imperialism.

00:09:49.320 And I'm not sure that he wanted a liberal imperialism. Maybe he did.

00:09:52.440 Maybe he does.

00:09:54.040 But the point being, this sort of like the new atheist centre-rights coalition of people who are often made up of ex-Muslims

00:10:01.300 or hardcore sort of classical liberals who are very much against that sort of worldview anyway.

00:10:08.760 And this is where this guy seems to fit.

00:10:11.420 This sort of, oh, I thought I was left-wing, but the left left me perspective.

00:10:16.380 I still can't rule out the fact that he could just be lying about everything.

00:10:21.480 We'll get to it. We'll get to it.

00:10:22.900 Okay.

00:10:23.040 And so he claims to be a self-proclaimed leftist or liberal, whatever mold we want to call it,

00:10:31.200 who was disillusioned with the left.

00:10:36.640 Because, as he says here, the Western left did not welcome migrants because of tolerance,

00:10:41.060 because it wants to destroy Europe with Islam. 0.99

00:10:43.800 Now, that is true.

00:10:45.720 But also, look at his criticism.

00:10:48.240 I wanted them to be tolerant because they promised toleration.

00:10:52.020 They promised, essentially, the liberal ideal.

00:10:54.760 And they were lying to me.

00:10:57.020 So I was deceived by them. 0.88

00:10:58.920 They actually just want to destroy Europe with Islam. 1.00

00:11:00.780 I mean, as someone who claims to be an ex-Muslim, obviously not something that they're like. 0.69

00:11:06.040 And it's a very similar message to Ayaan Hirsi Ali.

00:11:08.440 Now, I just want to make it very clear.

00:11:10.120 I'm not saying that anyone who also shares any opinions with him is also a terrorist or potential terrorist.

00:11:16.340 And, in fact, I think the issue is that maybe this guy didn't actually really imbibe the beliefs that he claims to have believed.

00:11:24.940 Because, I mean, at least if there's one thing about the center-rights liberal coalition that is to their benefit,

00:11:31.680 is they have a commitment to democracy and they don't favor terrorism.

00:11:37.240 So it's not like we can say, well, this is clearly a case of his classical liberal center-right beliefs,

00:11:43.040 because, obviously, that's not what they believe.

00:11:45.020 Well, the point that I'm taking from this is, right, there's a dichotomy that they're trying to sell us,

00:11:51.700 which is that there's the foreigner who believes in radical Islam,

00:11:55.440 foreigner who doesn't believe in radical Islam, and, in fact, opposes it vehemently.

00:12:00.000 Bam! Both of them still make the attack. 0.59

00:12:03.180 We'll get to this, because I think there is actually an explanation for it.

00:12:06.100 I think he gives us the explanation himself, actually.

00:12:08.580 But, anyway, so he wants to stop the spread of Islam. 0.54

00:12:12.540 He is a supporter of Zionism. 0.98

00:12:16.580 A series of tweets explaining why I've written my bio that I love Israel.

00:12:21.400 Now, there are conflicting tweets that are taken out of context that I don't know the context for,

00:12:28.100 that suggest otherwise.

00:12:29.300 Because the ex-Muslim community, of course, don't want to claim them as one of their own. 0.97

00:12:34.000 And so you've got a very long thread like this one,

00:12:36.940 where people are pointing out, well, he was saying contradictory things.

00:12:42.260 The translation is, no, we will return Hamas to Gaza, 0.61

00:12:45.360 and if you like it, we can bring Hamas to your home so you can taste it. 0.83

00:12:48.400 It's a weird thing to say.

00:12:49.440 Again, I'm not sure, because, I mean, a lot of this is people whose second or third language is English,

00:12:55.700 going, and a lot of this is also being taken through Google Translate,

00:12:59.260 or perhaps doesn't translate well.

00:13:01.200 So, I'm not sure.

00:13:02.760 But there are lots of people saying, well, look, this was just taqiyya.

00:13:06.540 So, taqiyya is an extra-Quranical Islamic doctrine 0.82

00:13:11.540 that gives Muslims permission to lie in the service of Islam. 0.99

00:13:16.080 Now, the problem with applying that to anything

00:13:21.240 is that you're essentially trying to divine someone's innermost thoughts

00:13:25.140 without a falsifiable standard to work against.

00:13:29.220 So, is something taqiyya?

00:13:31.280 Well, yes or no, depending on how I feel about it.

00:13:33.860 And how broadly can taqiyya be defined?

00:13:36.240 Well, however broadly the person who wants to apply it wants to define it.

00:13:40.100 And so we end up with a concept that isn't actually terribly useful

00:13:42.800 and doesn't allow us to narrow down on any one particular thing.

00:13:47.460 This guy had a long history of doing this.

00:13:49.420 Did he keep up taqiyya for 10 years?

00:13:50.920 Maybe. I don't know.

00:13:52.360 Well, politicians with 30-year careers manage to lie for the entire 30 years.

00:13:57.160 It's not that difficult to believe.

00:13:58.620 They do, but do you then set up an NGO to bring ex-Muslims out of Saudi Arabia? 0.98

00:14:04.080 Well, strip out all of the words.

00:14:06.440 What was the result?

00:14:07.540 More people like him turned up.

00:14:09.120 Sure.

00:14:09.700 We'll get to that a bit later.

00:14:11.540 I just want to focus on the ideological bit for a minute.

00:14:16.460 It's not that I think there's no legitimate allegation there.

00:14:19.920 It's just we can never really come to a solid conclusion on it, right?

00:14:24.100 And so it gets a bit misty and a bit…

00:14:26.800 Yeah, I mean, ultimately you have to judge him by his actions and his actions were

00:14:29.340 getting more people like him into the country and killing people.

00:14:32.360 Exactly. 0.98

00:14:33.000 But the thing is you can understand why the ex-Muslim community don't want 0.99

00:14:36.120 to think of this guy as one of theirs.

00:14:38.520 I mean, they say, as a representative here, they say he's a radical Shia Muslim,

00:14:42.660 as evidenced by his name in numerous tweets and chat leaks circulating on Arabic-speaking

00:14:45.940 platforms like X, and he had plans to carry out mass killings.

00:14:49.780 So I don't know is the point I'm going to arrive at.

00:14:53.800 And there is a lot of conflicting reports of what his belief system may have been.

00:14:58.560 But he did, however, make lots of statements about, well, being a terrorist in some way.

00:15:07.860 He was having a problem with the German justice system, because the German justice system was

00:15:12.640 not cooperating in the way that he wanted in order to bring ex-Muslims, or purportedly

00:15:18.180 ex-Muslims, from Saudi Arabia over to Germany. 0.56

00:15:21.660 And so he was frustrated with this, and he said things like,

00:15:23.900 German terrorism will be brought to justice.

00:15:26.520 It's very likely that I will die this year in order to bring justice.

00:15:30.160 He made another statement in August, saying,

00:15:32.040 I will assure you that if Germany wants war, we will fight it. 1.00

00:15:35.240 If Germany wants to kill us, we will slaughter them, die, or go to prison with pride. 0.99

00:15:39.120 And this goes to show how much of a choice this is, because if you're a German, well, 1.00

00:15:43.860 you don't even need to be German.

00:15:45.020 You just post anything with a rightish tinge about Germany on Twitter, and it will pop

00:15:51.040 up, oh, this post has been disabled under German law, and then they come and look at

00:15:55.400 you, and if you're on the right, they come and raid your house.

00:15:57.680 If they applied a fraction of that energy the other way, this never would have happened.

00:16:03.160 Sure.

00:16:04.660 But the point, I think, is that he's someone who has not got a Western mindset, even if

00:16:12.840 he believes a Western ideology, right?

00:16:15.200 So even if he says, yes, I'm an atheist ex-Muslim who believes in tolerance and all the promises

00:16:22.300 of liberalism, when they're betrayed, the Western mindset is not, I'm going to go to war with 1.00

00:16:28.480 the German people and kill as many of them as I can, right? 1.00

00:16:31.340 That's not the Western mindset. 1.00

00:16:32.780 That's an Arab mindset.

00:16:33.880 Well, this is a bit like Peter Hitchens' take on this, which is, apparently they found

00:16:39.440 some reference to him doing weed, and Peter Hitchens was immediately like, see, it's

00:16:44.580 the weed.

00:16:44.980 This is the one and only important factor in this entire case, yes.

00:16:48.360 It's like lots of Westerners do weed, and they don't do this.

00:16:51.520 Please go back to Pet Peter.

00:16:53.100 Yes.

00:16:55.180 So anyway, the Saudis had been warning about this guy for quite a long time, but the German 0.81

00:17:00.980 authorities didn't take the Saudis very seriously because, of course, they're not liberals,

00:17:04.820 liberals, and they're oppressive.

00:17:09.780 The Saudis basically essentially said, look, he's a dangerous person, and he's been making 1.00

00:17:17.360 various kinds of threats.

00:17:19.380 The chair of the Association of Former Muslims in Germany said, he's no stranger to us, he's

00:17:24.340 been terrorizing us for years.

00:17:26.400 She labeled him a psychopath who adhere to ultra-right conspiracy ideologies, which is very interesting.

00:17:32.800 But anyway, the Saudis put in an extradition request to him, because he is apparently wanted

00:17:38.640 for rape in Saudi Arabia, and human trafficking.

00:17:43.480 Because, as far as they're concerned...

00:17:46.780 That's probably what won him the refugee status. 1.00

00:17:48.880 Oh, you're a rapist? 1.00

00:17:49.960 Oh, all right, then. 1.00

00:17:50.760 Well, if we send you back, you'll probably get executed. 0.88

00:17:53.100 So please feel free to stay.

00:17:54.520 Would you like to become a doctor here?

00:17:56.100 Well, no, it's because the extradition request is a question of human rights, right?

00:18:01.680 Like, because the ex-Muslim will say, well, they're going to persecute me for being an

00:18:07.000 atheist, which is, of course, a protective belief characteristic in the West, but not

00:18:11.680 in Islam or an Islamic country like Saudi Arabia. 0.97

00:18:15.380 And so the Saudi Arabians are like, well, hang on a second, he is a rapist, and actually 1.00

00:18:19.340 he needs to be brought justice on that. 0.93

00:18:20.760 And so Germany didn't extradite him, where he was just left to continue being mental.

00:18:26.280 And so this is just a fascinating look at the way that these conflicting belief systems

00:18:33.480 ended up creating the conditions for this to happen.

00:18:37.480 But anyway, so there are reports of him saying Allah Akbar when he's on the ground.

00:18:43.440 I'm not going to play the clip, because it's just garbled nonsense, basically.

00:18:46.280 I don't think he's saying Allah Akbar.

00:18:47.840 Lots of German speakers that I know have been like, no.

00:18:50.420 So he's saying something like, alez kar, which means all clear in German, or like, I understand

00:18:56.360 in German.

00:18:58.740 So I don't think he's yelling Allah Akbar, but lots of people wanted him to believe

00:19:03.500 that he is, because, of course, that would imply, oh, he's a Shia radical who is actually

00:19:08.140 engaging in Takiya.

00:19:09.520 I'm not sure that's correct.

00:19:10.700 But what I think has happened is actually something that he posted here.

00:19:17.200 Right now, this is an interesting thread from him, where he says, many fellow Saudi

00:19:23.240 Muslims, Saudi ex-Muslims, ask me, do we announce leaving Islam on Twitter to get an asylum in 0.99

00:19:28.580 the Western country? 0.96

00:19:29.400 Why, silly question. 0.98

00:19:30.560 And he says, Muhammad has destroyed the capacity of reasoning in Muslims. 0.98

00:19:34.380 Even if a Muslim turns atheist, he might still fail in extracting principles. 0.99

00:19:38.840 Now, that, I think, is a fascinating statement, because what he's saying there is, essentially,

00:19:44.240 there is a worldview to being an atheist, right?

00:19:47.000 And if you profess the ideology of atheism, okay, that's a rational and thin set of propositions

00:19:54.980 in your head.

00:19:55.820 I do not believe in God, therefore, right?

00:19:58.500 However, as Taleb himself is showing us, okay, you may well be rationalistically an atheist

00:20:06.420 who's doctrinally committed to atheism rather than Islam, but the worldview that underpins

00:20:12.340 this is one where, if I don't get my way, I'm going to go to war with the German state 0.90

00:20:17.480 and commit an atrocity like ISIS. 0.72

00:20:20.200 And so the worldview is still a Middle Eastern worldview.

00:20:23.200 The way that you connect concepts remains, the framework and scaffolding remains Islamic. 0.54

00:20:28.680 Exactly.

00:20:29.120 And that's what he's saying here.

00:20:31.420 Yeah.

00:20:31.940 Many ex-Muslims do this, and he himself is one of them. 0.93

00:20:37.100 So it's like, right, okay, that's very interesting.

00:20:41.780 Anyway, the point being, though, he's far right, obviously.

00:20:45.200 The people opposing immigration are far right, and, of course, the people protesting the massacre

00:20:50.960 themselves are far right.

00:20:53.720 And so it's like, right, okay, everything's just far right at this point.

00:20:56.640 But yeah, no, there were lots of people protesting in Magdeburg, saying, well, this is terrible.

00:21:00.900 How can this be allowed?

00:21:02.460 And, of course, there were various immigrants and leftists out protesting in favor of immigration.

00:21:09.020 What is going on in the head of a German person who watches nine-year-olds and families being 0.99

00:21:16.920 mowed down and then goes out and protests in favor of more of it?

00:21:20.280 Well, lots of these people won't be German.

00:21:24.460 And the thing is, lots of them will, though.

00:21:26.780 Yeah, lots of them will.

00:21:27.380 There will be some, and I don't know, you are right, I don't know what kind of argument

00:21:32.060 they could present when the immigrant who did it literally seems to be the model migrant

00:21:38.240 who is trying to de-Islamize himself and maintain a de-Islamized Europe by his own statements.

00:21:45.620 Obviously, this is all going off of his own statements, if we believe those.

00:21:48.880 And then is also a doctor, so he's contributing to the economy, he's contributing to public services,

00:21:55.120 et cetera, et cetera.

00:21:55.880 He's succeeding.

00:21:56.620 Yeah, he's succeeding.

00:21:57.660 He is the model migrant. 0.64

00:21:59.280 How they can then turn around and spin that into being a pro-immigration success story

00:22:04.060 when he still ended up committing an atrocity that murdered people.

00:22:08.240 I do not know, other than the fact that the Germans, for so long, have been completely 0.76

00:22:12.840 brainwashed to hate themselves.

00:22:14.820 Yeah.

00:22:15.300 I mean, there are so many strange events in this whole thing.

00:22:19.860 It's like, okay, if you're an anti-Islam activist who is concerned that the left are

00:22:23.780 Islamizing Germany, and you're frustrated with the German state for not getting enough 0.94

00:22:29.300 atheists out of Saudi Arabia, why attack a Christmas market?

00:22:33.500 If, for some reason, you have to attack someone, why are you ramming down a bunch of what are

00:22:39.380 going to be probably mostly atheist Germans?

00:22:41.840 Well, I think because in the ultimate calculation, it's still us versus them, and he sees the Germans 0.99

00:22:47.680 as them.

00:22:48.920 Possibly.

00:22:49.700 I mean, that is genuinely...

00:22:51.360 And look at his bio.

00:22:52.640 Yeah. 0.60

00:22:52.820 Germany chases female Saudi asylum seekers inside and outside Germany to destroy their 1.00

00:22:57.500 lives. 0.97

00:22:58.020 Germany wants to Islamize Europe.

00:22:59.300 He's still obsessed only with him and his own, and he just wants them into Germany because 1.00

00:23:05.600 Germany is nothing but a zone for him and his people to be safe in, and he sees them

00:23:11.100 as not fulfilling that promise.

00:23:12.820 He has, like I said at the beginning, instrumentalized Germany into a tool that he can use, and if

00:23:20.020 it doesn't fulfill the function that he wants, well, he's failed to extract the principles

00:23:24.980 that actually mass casualty attacks...

00:23:28.820 Slaughtering women and children isn't a good thing, actually. 0.66

00:23:31.420 Yeah, that's a terrible thing, actually, and not something that we do in the West.

00:23:36.080 But I very much enjoy Noah Smith's response here.

00:23:40.620 I think European liberals have better come up with a solution to this fast, because currently

00:23:44.160 the rightists seem to be the only ones proposing solutions to this.

00:23:47.040 You know, pro-Palestinians, so Western leftists and immigrants chanting Intifada through, again, 0.97

00:23:55.560 the German city centers that are covered in Christmas lights.

00:23:58.480 It's like, yeah, what are you going to say?

00:24:00.780 But what is the European liberal going to say?

00:24:02.920 European liberals already have come up with a solution.

00:24:05.020 It's the AFD.

00:24:06.420 Yeah, that's true.

00:24:07.160 The AFD is a left-wing solution.

00:24:10.940 It just happens to be on the right side of the current paradigm.

00:24:13.980 But the entire current paradigm is massively left.

00:24:16.860 It's the center-right of, you know, the left-wing's right flank.

00:24:21.000 Of the current paradigm.

00:24:22.020 But I'm telling you, the non-liberal solution will not look anything like the AFD, and that's

00:24:27.300 what they're going to get if they don't embrace it.

00:24:28.900 And that's what Noah Smith's worried about.

00:24:30.340 But the problem that the European liberal, as in the left-wing liberal that she's appealing

00:24:34.280 to here, has is that, well, these are legal German citizens.

00:24:40.260 They are rights-bearing people as much as anyone else.

00:24:43.260 As far as the average liberal is concerned, you can have been in Germany for a thousand

00:24:48.140 years, or literally one day, and you have the exact same people right.

00:24:52.240 Because they're all propositional nation people.

00:24:53.900 They're all SIDNATs. 0.99

00:24:54.980 Exactly.

00:24:55.500 They're all social contractors, right?

00:24:57.560 And so what is the distinction between these people chanting Intifada and the average German?

00:25:01.920 Well, none.

00:25:02.800 They're just individuals.

00:25:03.800 They're just rights-bearing citizens.

00:25:05.300 They've all got the pieces of paper.

00:25:06.700 And therefore, they've got the right to protest.

00:25:08.640 They've got the right to walk through a German town center, chanting Intifada now, and showing 0.78

00:25:15.340 no respect to the dignity of the German people in the wake of an atrocious terror attack done

00:25:21.780 by an immigrant.

00:25:23.240 But that doesn't register in the liberal mind.

00:25:26.120 And so they better come up with a solution fast.

00:25:28.960 Okay, I don't know what it might look like.

00:25:30.820 And essentially, you've got the German, the AFD, who are essentially, you know, like liberal

00:25:34.440 conservatives, right?

00:25:35.880 They're like, no, there is something important about the dignity of the people.

00:25:38.180 Because otherwise, why are we doing any of the things that we do, et cetera, et cetera, right?

00:25:42.620 And so one of the things that people are doing is saying, right, this guy supported the AFD.

00:25:46.500 This is far-right terrorism against the far-right for some reason.

00:25:50.460 And therefore, the guy liked Elon, the guy liked Tommy, the guy liked all these things.

00:25:54.160 So therefore, they're all bad and wrong.

00:25:56.180 And thankfully, Elon's just literally just afterwards.

00:25:59.000 Elon just tweeted out, yeah, only the AFD can save Germany.

00:26:02.440 So he's not paying attention to them.

00:26:04.880 He's not taking them seriously.

00:26:05.920 He's still, no, got to be AFD.

00:26:07.320 Got to be AFD.

00:26:08.520 So it's better than anything else they've got, I would say.

00:26:11.300 I don't think the AFD can save Germany.

00:26:13.500 Because like I said, I think it's part of the left-wing paradigm.

00:26:16.220 But it's worth a try before you move on to the next thing.

00:26:18.940 Yeah.

00:26:19.200 It's the next thing towards the right, which is fine.

00:26:22.820 Let's do it.

00:26:23.620 Let's get what we can done with, you know, the sort of reform AFD MAGA types.

00:26:28.540 See if they can fix any of the problems.

00:26:30.060 If they can't, which I don't have to be optimistic.

00:26:32.860 But if they can't, then okay, well, we have to think of something else then, don't we?

00:26:35.800 But the point is, and what I like about this position that Elon's taken is, I don't respect their opinion.

00:26:42.260 This is actually the issue.

00:26:43.520 Right?

00:26:43.700 He's like, they're all, they've been on his back for the past two days, or since it was done, whatever it was, saying, look, you've got to disavow the AFD, basically.

00:26:51.840 He's like, no, only the AFD can save Germany.

00:26:53.760 Right?

00:26:53.900 It's just the end of it, because, I mean, look at the things that he's responding to.

00:26:57.200 Look at these things.

00:26:58.120 These are just atrocious. 0.96

00:26:59.600 And again, it's just all foreigners doing it. 1.00

00:27:03.120 Anyway, so like I said, it's a very confused mix of things at the moment, and there's no good answer to any of it.

00:27:10.280 But there are simple answers, and like you say, people are going to come to those simple answers, and especially if the liberals can't do anything about it, which I don't think they can, they're going to come to them sooner rather than later.

00:27:24.100 All right, we've got some rumble rants, if you'd like to go through them.

00:27:27.000 Yep.

00:27:27.360 Peter says, how convenient this terrorist supports everything that Germany is trying to ban.

00:27:31.640 Smells like planned intelligence services operation.

00:27:34.020 Maybe, but it was a long time in the making, and the, I don't, I don't buy it.

00:27:39.400 Because he was tweeting and involved in these things for over a decade.

00:27:43.260 Whether or not it was a planned intelligence services operation, I think part of the demoralization campaign is the knowledge that if you just let enough of these people in, this will happen pretty regularly.

00:27:55.040 So I do think this is all part and parcel of what the elites plan.

00:27:59.860 At the very minimum, you can say on the intelligence point, is that, you know, the point I made earlier,

00:28:06.000 if they applied the same focus on Islam as they do to write, they would have caught him, because the intelligence... 0.81

00:28:11.860 He was literally posting, oh, I'm probably going to end up killing people.

00:28:14.820 The German intelligence services take out people with mildly right-wing views all the time. 0.96

00:28:20.340 Oh yeah, and they're crazy as well, like raiding people's houses.

00:28:24.420 Yes.

00:28:25.040 And taking everything they own and stuff like that, and they're charging.

00:28:28.080 The German intelligence services are way worse than the British ones.

00:28:31.360 And we lock up thousands of people a year for social media posts.

00:28:34.520 Ironically enough, they will, if you own particular books in Germany, they will raid your house and they will, like, pulp the books. 0.98

00:28:40.360 They'll make sure you have no access to it.

00:28:42.800 Can I get a list of them?

00:28:44.140 I'll tell you afterwards.

00:28:45.520 Unlike with Axel Rudd-Kabana, who's allowed to have ISIS training manuals or whatever.

00:28:51.560 Anyway, OPH UK says,

00:28:53.220 Whatever he believed, his actions, excuse me, aren't an ad for more immigration from Muslim countries.

00:28:58.440 No, and I think that his point is correct, that, like, you know, they didn't extract the principles.

00:29:05.440 I think that's true.

00:29:06.540 And I think he didn't either.

00:29:07.680 I mean, he basically literally said,

00:29:09.720 The magic soil doesn't work, bro.

00:29:12.060 Watch this.

00:29:13.420 Yeah, no, but he literally said it and did it.

00:29:16.880 Yeah.

00:29:17.220 That's the thing.

00:29:17.820 And I think you are correct.

00:29:19.020 Like, there's no sentimental attachment to Germany as Germany in and of itself, you know, because, like, if I went, like, you know, I love Greece, man.

00:29:29.880 I absolutely adore Greece.

00:29:31.640 And if I went to Greece and for some reason the Greek state was giving me jib and I wasn't getting what I wanted from the Greek state, I would never think, right, I need to take this out on the Greek people, right? 0.98

00:29:41.760 It would never occur to me, you know?

00:29:43.720 I mean, let's just say I was going to become the world's biggest terrorist in Greece.

00:29:46.620 I'd attack a government building or something, right?

00:29:49.560 But it probably wouldn't occur to you to put a burden on the Greek state in the first place and therefore you wouldn't have that problem.

00:29:54.640 No, but let's assume I did, right?

00:29:56.620 Let's assume that I had a real problem with the way the Greek state was treated.

00:30:00.480 This is all getting clipped, okay?

00:30:02.720 But I would target my ire towards the institutions of the state and not just a random group of gathering of Greek people.

00:30:11.480 Because I like Greece.

00:30:13.140 I like Greek people.

00:30:14.060 I like going there.

00:30:14.780 Every Greek I've met has been really lovely, you know?

00:30:17.780 And I really like the atmosphere and the sunshine and stuff like this.

00:30:21.080 So it's a great place to go on holiday.

00:30:22.620 I would never want to do damage to the place, even if the government was being insufferable, but he just didn't hold that position, right?

00:30:30.420 And so anyway, Russian says, we'll return Hamas to Gaza and if you like it, we can bring Hamas to your home so you can taste it. 0.98

00:30:37.640 But yeah, I don't know what the context is of it.

00:30:41.600 And again, there are lots of contradictory things.

00:30:43.420 One of them is like, the religion of God is Judaism. 0.75

00:30:46.620 And it's like, okay.

00:30:48.180 I mean, that first statement does have a touch of Zionism about it.

00:30:51.600 Well, yeah.

00:30:53.260 Yeah, yeah, no, it does.

00:30:54.420 Like, you know, Ireland can take loads of Palestinian refugees, etc.

00:30:57.620 So, yeah.

00:31:00.080 Dragon Lady Chris says, before I step out, I just want to wish a very Merry Christmas to everyone at Lodz Eaters and everyone in the chat.

00:31:04.700 Be safe, be well, see you next year.

00:31:06.680 Well, thank you very much and hope you have a great Christmas and a very Happy New Year.

00:31:13.360 Right, let's talk about how anti-racism has become deranged.

00:31:16.700 Not the title I originally wanted, but it's a title that I was allowed.

00:31:19.520 So, we're referring here to an article from Mitteldeutsche Zeitung, which I think is about right.

00:31:27.880 Oh, we've actually managed to get it translated brilliantly.

00:31:32.760 So, no, I'm actually going to quote the salient bits from this post of Eugypius because my computer wouldn't translate it.

00:31:41.840 But anyway, I'm going to read out the tweet version of this because it gets the key points rather well.

00:31:47.220 So, fascinating report from Mitteldeutsche Zeitung about Talib al-Abmoshan's colleague's impression of him.

00:31:56.940 So, apparently, the guys who worked with this doctor called him Dr. Google.

00:32:02.040 Amongst staff at Benberg Forensic Psychiatric Hospital, doubts have grown since the 50-year-old Saudi began working there in March 2020.

00:32:11.900 We call him Dr. Google, an employee says.

00:32:14.640 He got the nickname because he had to look up every diagnosis on the internet.

00:32:21.640 The man, who, as a specialist in psychiatry and psychotherapy, heads three therapy wards, is said to have done his rounds always alone.

00:32:30.760 He avoids talking to staff as much as possible.

00:32:35.180 All sounding a bit suspect so far.

00:32:37.240 Do you remember when there was that big thing on, I think it was TikTok and other social media,

00:32:41.760 and loads of people were getting angry at Steve Laws for pointing out that loads of African immigrants were coming over on fake degrees.

00:32:49.120 Yeah.

00:32:49.580 And filling in degrees for their family members as well, who then got jobs at the NHS.

00:32:54.240 Yeah, it sounds...

00:32:54.960 Oh, why don't you become a consultant at a hospital then?

00:32:57.880 You know, you've got a piece of paper that says...

00:32:59.560 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:32:59.900 I trust your degree.

00:33:01.140 Yes, printed out in Botswana.

00:33:02.240 The word degree must be the same in there than it is here.

00:33:05.220 Yes.

00:33:05.720 It must have the same...

00:33:06.800 Well, they spelt degree wrong, but, I mean, all the same.

00:33:09.100 You know, let's give this guy...

00:33:10.120 There's no corruption in that country.

00:33:11.980 His German was apparently terrible, and patients could hardly understand him.

00:33:16.880 When new patients asked him how they could quickly get off their drug addiction,

00:33:20.720 Talib A repeatedly replied,

00:33:23.060 Alcohol good, honey bad.

00:33:25.860 Why did he say that?

00:33:28.140 Honey's not bad.

00:33:29.580 I mean, alcohol's not terribly bad, but, like...

00:33:31.380 Yes.

00:33:32.480 I don't know the full context of that one, but that was apparently his stock phrase.

00:33:38.220 I don't know, this sounds a little bit far-fetched to me,

00:33:41.040 just because we have at least one clip of him speaking that we saw in the previous...

00:33:45.880 Well, his English was good.

00:33:46.800 In the previous...

00:33:47.440 Oh, yes, true.

00:33:48.180 It was his German kid.

00:33:48.860 Yeah, no, you're right there, actually.

00:33:50.780 No, I was...

00:33:51.140 You forgot you're not German.

00:33:52.260 You forgot you're not speaking German, Harry.

00:33:54.080 Oh, thank God.

00:33:54.680 You have internalised it so much.

00:33:56.500 Thank God for that, yeah.

00:33:57.720 When Al-Abmoshun started working at the clinic in Birnberg,

00:34:04.640 he also practised in the neighbouring Sal's specialist clinic,

00:34:09.240 but his privileges were suspected because he repeatedly prescribed medication

00:34:13.840 that could have put patients' lives at risk.

00:34:15.960 Staff at his own hospital repeatedly complained of his incompetence,

00:34:21.880 but management dismissed their concerns.

00:34:24.920 Starting in May of this year, he began to be absent for weeks at a time.

00:34:29.260 Quoting a staff member,

00:34:30.640 We all thought that our suspicions were correct and he had left because he was not a doctor,

00:34:35.240 until suddenly he reappeared, an employee said.

00:34:38.160 We did not fire him at this point for some reason.

00:34:40.920 It would not be the first case of a doctor from Birnberg's Forensic Psychiatry Hospital

00:34:45.680 being exposed as an imposter.

00:34:47.800 So this has happened more than once.

00:34:49.400 They've had an imposter more than once.

00:34:50.780 Well, it's happened in lots of countries.

00:34:52.880 Well, yes, but it happens in this particular clinic that he was working in.

00:34:56.340 Some would argue psychiatry is a fake field in the first place.

00:34:59.720 Well, we won't go there at this time, but yes,

00:35:03.520 certainly a lot of people thought that he was faking it,

00:35:05.500 but they refused to consider it, obviously, because he is a bit brown.

00:35:08.620 His latest absence from work began in October,

00:35:12.680 a mix of paid leave and sick days.

00:35:15.240 His latest sick leave was scheduled to expire on the 20th of December,

00:35:19.540 the day he carried out the attack.

00:35:22.160 So how was it that he was able to get away with this completely absurd situation

00:35:29.840 where he didn't know what the hell he was talking about, 0.51

00:35:32.060 he could barely speak German, he had to look everything up on the internet?

00:35:34.860 We don't want to be racist.

00:35:38.620 That's literally going to be it, isn't it?

00:35:40.840 Oh, yes, yes, yes.

00:35:42.600 I thought you were saying that on my behalf,

00:35:45.320 and I thought, how can I answer that?

00:35:47.020 How do I answer that?

00:35:49.060 Speak for yourself, Carl.

00:35:51.320 It's going to be anti-racism, isn't it?

00:35:53.540 Pretty much, yes.

00:35:54.860 And I can tell you what the thought process here,

00:35:59.300 because I have managed to get hold of a copy of the Protocols of the Elders of Boomer.

00:36:04.460 Now, here we go.

00:36:07.040 And if you look at the top protocol, it does say, do not be racist.

00:36:11.840 This was all a part of the Boomer World domination plan. 0.97

00:36:15.880 Yes.

00:36:16.280 If I remember correctly.

00:36:17.060 Some people say that this is fake, and I don't know if it is,

00:36:22.240 but somebody has read this.

00:36:23.640 Some argue that it was a piece of fiction written in the 19th century

00:36:28.060 that was then later propagandised as being real.

00:36:31.060 How they predicted boomers, though.

00:36:32.880 It does summarise the Boomer worldview quite well, though, doesn't it?

00:36:36.140 It does.

00:36:37.140 I notice there's some repetition as the list goes on.

00:36:40.960 Now, I want to be very clear to our lovely audience watching

00:36:44.900 that I am not necessarily accusing all of you who were of a certain age of being boomers,

00:36:50.040 at least not with a hard R.

00:36:52.100 Anti-boometic, are you?

00:36:53.920 No.

00:36:54.620 Look, I'm saying you can be born in 1955 and not be a boomer with a hard R.

00:36:59.520 I'll give you the soft A.

00:37:02.160 My parents are boomers of the soft A.

00:37:05.480 Well, there you go.

00:37:06.160 We don't mind them.

00:37:07.600 They're fine.

00:37:08.280 But this broadly is the worldview of the boomer.

00:37:11.020 And by far and away, the most important thing is do not be racist.

00:37:14.400 But the thing is that has been carried over to the point where this guy in Germany 0.69

00:37:18.380 can be obviously incompetent, very obviously incompetent,

00:37:23.020 and yet still get a doctor's salary, which is enough to buy a powerful BMW car

00:37:28.160 and then use it the way that he did.

00:37:31.280 Because, of course, the edict of don't be racist has become warped to the point

00:37:36.300 where you have to be actively anti-racist to the point where competence doesn't matter.

00:37:41.780 Now, my argument is that an appropriate level of racism is quite acceptable.

00:37:47.560 Are you even arguing for racism in this case? 0.99

00:37:52.460 Are we not just arguing, if he crap at the job, don't let him off because he's brown? 1.00

00:37:57.440 Well, okay, so is there a clip of Jordan Peterson yelling merit forcibly 0.99

00:38:02.600 that you might actually be gesturing to right now?

00:38:05.480 Weirdly enough, actually, Jordan Peterson kind of has a point on that one.

00:38:09.440 Yes.

00:38:09.760 Well, I'll tell you what, fine, fine.

00:38:12.060 I'll give you level one is just not being retardedly anti-racist. 0.99

00:38:18.260 I don't think there's a level of racism.

00:38:19.900 Such merit.

00:38:20.520 Like anything that we would have described as called racism, anyway.

00:38:25.120 Well, okay, let me describe a scenario then.

00:38:30.540 So scenario is minimum level racism is, oh, look, a foreign doctor has turned up.

00:38:36.580 Should we have a quick chat with him and see if he knows roughly what he's on about?

00:38:40.920 Is that racism?

00:38:43.420 Oh, under the current rules, yes.

00:38:45.180 Under the current paradigm, yes.

00:38:46.800 I don't know if we should concede that that's racism.

00:38:49.520 The current paradigm is, you want to check this man's credentials?

00:38:52.780 Hitler. 0.57

00:38:54.020 Yes, that is under the current system.

00:38:56.460 What would Hitler do? 0.80

00:38:57.020 Check his credentials?

00:38:58.020 Well, we can't do that.

00:38:58.840 That is 100% racism under the current system, of checking out foreign doctors to see if

00:39:04.120 they actually know what they talk about.

00:39:06.080 I mean, you are right.

00:39:08.620 Of course.

00:39:09.060 But I don't know if we should concede that that's what racism is.

00:39:13.100 But it is that at the moment.

00:39:15.380 And I'm saying it shouldn't be that.

00:39:16.920 But, you know, all you need to do is you need to go to these new doctors and you say, you

00:39:22.920 know, if a patient presents with, you know, symptoms A and B, you know, what would you

00:39:26.960 do?

00:39:27.380 And if he...

00:39:27.820 What kind of leech do you apply? 0.86

00:39:29.480 And if they say this kind of leech, then...

00:39:31.480 Well, if he gives you some sort of sensible answer, then you go, okay, yeah, fair enough.

00:39:36.380 You know, but if he says, you know, alcohol good, honey bad, then you think, oh, hang on

00:39:40.680 a minute.

00:39:41.780 We might need to check whether that degree that he presented us with a misspelt degree

00:39:46.000 is actually...

00:39:46.560 Is that what they taught you at university?

00:39:48.280 Giving them a basic test doesn't seem like very much...

00:39:52.300 Like, it doesn't...

00:39:52.860 It just doesn't feel like a commitment to racism.

00:39:54.940 Okay, put it this way.

00:39:56.160 Let's...

00:39:56.480 Liberalism needs to leave my body.

00:39:58.360 Put it like this.

00:39:59.060 In America, certain tests are not applied to certain groups.

00:40:02.680 That is true.

00:40:02.900 Because there is a knowledge that they will inevitably fail them on a mass scale.

00:40:08.520 So you don't apply those tests to them.

00:40:10.960 Because that would be racist.

00:40:12.920 Do we think that if there was a blonde-haired, blue-eyed German doctor who had to look everything

00:40:18.780 up on Google, did his rounds alone because he didn't want any staff seeing what he was

00:40:23.880 up to, could barely, you know, could barely speak German, it would be odd for a German,

00:40:26.840 but do you think that guy would be allowed to draw a doctor's salary as a consultant for

00:40:31.980 like 20 years?

00:40:32.880 Dan, you're acting as if white privilege doesn't exist.

00:40:35.620 Yeah, Dan.

00:40:36.140 So that's the minimal level of racism, which I'm prepared to accept.

00:40:41.900 Does this document go...

00:40:43.060 Oh, it keeps...

00:40:43.960 I saw there was a scroll bar.

00:40:48.200 We don't need that anymore.

00:40:49.740 I mean, it does continue, but I only listed the first 25 points.

00:40:52.700 That's 24, actually.

00:40:54.060 It was...

00:40:54.400 All right, okay.

00:40:54.980 That was very Boomer of you there.

00:40:56.280 Yes, that is true.

00:40:57.720 I mean, the next level of racism, which I'm going to call the South... 0.99

00:41:01.660 Because the South Koreans are wonderfully racist. 1.00

00:41:04.240 You know, they just have the view... 0.99

00:41:06.120 They test their doctors, do they?

00:41:08.100 I presume so.

00:41:09.260 I mean, they just have the view that South Korea's at the top, and then you've got everybody

00:41:12.660 else.

00:41:13.540 Now, you can...

00:41:14.300 And Japan's a bit like this as well.

00:41:15.600 You can go as a...

00:41:17.020 You mean they have a national pride?

00:41:18.700 Yes.

00:41:19.320 You can, as a Westerner, go and live and work in South Korea or Japan, but you better be 0.89

00:41:23.560 bloody good at whatever it is you're doing, otherwise they won't tolerate you.

00:41:27.000 And they'll make it very difficult for you to make the move in the first place.

00:41:29.840 Yes.

00:41:30.080 The path of racism is just so low.

00:41:31.960 If...

00:41:32.240 Be able to do your job?

00:41:34.000 That's kind of my point.

00:41:36.720 Yep.

00:41:38.720 That's pretty much what I'm going with here.

00:41:41.540 Don't worry.

00:41:42.380 Dan's not been reading through the Eugenic Society and Francis Galton or anything like

00:41:47.120 that.

00:41:47.680 At least I don't think he has.

00:41:49.460 But even then, that's not the level of racism that Dan's going to right now.

00:41:53.040 And then the next level above that is just to say, if you're not X, then you shouldn't 0.98

00:41:56.400 be an X.

00:41:56.780 It's like, if you're not German, then you shouldn't be in Germany. 0.95

00:41:58.700 Unless you're invited.

00:42:00.140 Sure.

00:42:00.640 Right.

00:42:00.840 Now, I'm not saying which level you should pick.

00:42:02.940 I'm just saying that we shouldn't be at level one anymore.

00:42:06.500 We should be at least...

00:42:08.000 I suspect there are gradients between those two.

00:42:10.960 They feel like the extremes.

00:42:12.800 There are probably gradients of racism between those.

00:42:15.500 I could imagine several more levels on top, but okay.

00:42:18.900 We won't go there at this time.

00:42:21.760 Let's move on to the realism of the idea of a bit of...

00:42:26.900 Let's see if we can scroll up.

00:42:29.080 There we go.

00:42:30.560 There we go.

00:42:30.940 So, Peter Bogosian.

00:42:32.680 Yep.

00:42:33.060 Bogosian.

00:42:33.680 Is he one of our guys?

00:42:34.740 I think...

00:42:35.420 Yeah, he's a friend of mine.

00:42:36.940 Right.

00:42:37.460 He's a good chap.

00:42:38.940 So, he asked the question, for those who think this is a problem...

00:42:42.540 He's a terminal liberal, though, I have to say.

00:42:45.060 I mean, just look at this post.

00:42:47.200 He's...

00:42:47.600 Boomer.

00:42:47.780 He's not a boomer.

00:42:49.940 Is he?

00:42:50.500 No, he's Gen X.

00:42:51.600 Oh, okay.

00:42:52.860 He wants liberalism to work, but he is also accepting of the fact that it has flaws.

00:43:00.780 Liberalism can work under a very specific set of circumstances.

00:43:04.620 Yeah, for 130 IQ Anglos. 1.00

00:43:06.100 Which, yeah, which, you know, like liberalism...

00:43:08.640 This video does not show the prevailing liberal circumstances.

00:43:13.040 Liberalism is sharia for Anglos, but yeah. 0.94

00:43:15.520 The question that Peter asks is, for those who think this is a problem,

00:43:19.180 I'm curious as to what you think a realistic solution is.

00:43:22.440 Add brackets.

00:43:23.340 The key word here being realistic.

00:43:26.200 Now, this is the point that a lot of people have got to at the moment, which is...

00:43:30.660 It's a father crowd marching through the Christmas market,

00:43:34.560 calling for whatever, you know, anti-German nonsense.

00:43:38.060 Why are they here?

00:43:38.900 How do we get rid of them?

00:43:39.700 Well, a lot of people are focusing on the realistic,

00:43:41.820 as if re-migration is just somehow impossible.

00:43:46.080 And the point I make below is that mass deportation

00:43:48.300 and seriously must counter-Islamic policies and policing

00:43:52.440 are entirely realistic.

00:43:54.280 It's merely a question of political will.

00:43:56.180 France has given us loads of examples of this, actually.

00:43:59.080 We'll literally ban the burqa. 1.00

00:44:01.000 Yes.

00:44:01.700 Mandate a pork-based diet.

00:44:03.640 I don't know if we can go that far.

00:44:05.560 The important thing is...

00:44:07.240 You don't need to mandate it with me, mate.

00:44:10.100 So there's no effect for you.

00:44:11.760 This is like when you accuse me of not drinking milk.

00:44:14.460 I drink milk and eat pork, and I love these things.

00:44:18.020 Yes.

00:44:18.600 But the point is, you know, there are some people who don't like pork.

00:44:22.800 Like, you know, do we have...

00:44:23.540 Wasn't the angle I wanted to go on?

00:44:26.960 It's the same Western civilization.

00:44:30.100 You must eat pork, and you must eat beef.

00:44:32.240 You preach to the choir, but, like, I guess...

00:44:35.480 It's the members who aren't part of the choir.

00:44:37.040 Who is against a glass of milk and a bacon sandwich in this conversation?

00:44:40.640 No one, but, like...

00:44:41.440 Well, there we go.

00:44:42.000 We've got that coming.

00:44:42.640 There we go.

00:44:42.900 There we go.

00:44:43.200 So we're mandating it.

00:44:44.340 I am...

00:44:44.980 That's step one.

00:44:46.100 I am feeling that maybe the libertarians might have a point where, like,

00:44:48.780 these things are good, but does the government have to force us to do it?

00:44:52.280 Well, if it's so good, then the fact that...

00:44:54.640 Can't we just deport those people?

00:44:56.120 If it's so good, then what's the problem with the government forcing you to do it?

00:45:02.040 Well, so your citizenship should be a glass of milk and a ham sandwich?

00:45:06.600 That should be the first of many tests when you get to the border.

00:45:10.940 Drink this, eat this.

00:45:13.080 Yes.

00:45:13.780 Okay, so...

00:45:14.300 It's a very friendly and welcoming test.

00:45:16.520 To be fair, if I went to a country and they gave me a bacon sandwich and a glass of milk,

00:45:19.600 I'd be like, oh, this is brilliant.

00:45:21.360 This is great.

00:45:23.820 Yeah, but the thing is, what if the Chinese start doing that? 0.99

00:45:26.240 I'd normally have to pay for these things.

00:45:27.480 Because the Chinese will eat anything, so we just end up with loads of Chinese immigrants. 1.00

00:45:30.640 Well, there's other tests.

00:45:32.820 Right, okay.

00:45:33.380 Anyway, we have gone very slightly sideways from the point that I was looking to do it.

00:45:39.500 But no, it is a right challenge.

00:45:41.540 I'm already thinking of utopia.

00:45:42.840 Snack-based immigration system is perfectly fine. 1.00

00:45:46.060 But no, my general point is that all of this stuff seems unimaginable and unrealistic until you start doing it.

00:45:55.120 Oh, well, I've just recorded a video for the Daily Channel today about how Sweden, France, Italy, Germany,

00:46:03.000 obviously the United States under Hohmann, and Canada are all taking massive restrictive policies to their immigration.

00:46:12.180 And they're all planning mass deportations.

00:46:13.900 Whereas Italy's already doing them.

00:46:15.660 And Sweden's already doing them.

00:46:16.740 Well, they're step one of the little list that I've got coming up.

00:46:19.120 But my example was going to be lockdowns.

00:46:20.800 If you had gone back to 2018 and explained lockdowns to somebody in 2018, they would have thought it's, yeah, truly absurd.

00:46:28.260 And this is the thing.

00:46:29.500 These ideas are always unimaginable until they start happening, and then it's just imaginable.

00:46:35.520 It's just fine.

00:46:36.040 It's normal.

00:46:36.260 Yeah, what elites want, they will get.

00:46:40.860 And remigration, it is inevitable. 1.00

00:46:43.800 It is going to happen.

00:46:45.240 It's already happening.

00:46:46.340 Indeed.

00:46:46.800 And the only question is making the elites want it.

00:46:49.660 And that's a combination of either some circulation of the elites, but actually the existing elites will also do it the moment it's in their interest.

00:46:57.760 They're already changing to do this.

00:46:59.600 I mean, Keir Starmer declared that Open Borders was an experiment that was inflicted on us by the Conservatives.

00:47:04.900 Okay, fine.

00:47:05.980 It's not like I trust Keir Starmer.

00:47:07.220 But the point is, I think he will definitely, I mean, all of his administration are literally, I mean, he went over to meet Maloney.

00:47:15.740 Like, and say, oh, I'm going to take all your advice on how to just essentially get rid of all these illegals. 1.00

00:47:20.320 Good start.

00:47:21.080 And then there are many more steps to go from that.

00:47:23.880 But the point is, we're on the right trajectory.

00:47:25.840 Yes.

00:47:26.540 And it's the current elites that are doing it.

00:47:28.200 I mean, even Justin Trudeau was like, we're going to have a pause on immigration.

00:47:30.860 Yeah.

00:47:31.300 It's gone too far.

00:47:31.800 And who would have thought it would be like Keir Starmer and Justin Trudeau?

00:47:36.000 Five years ago.

00:47:36.940 Yeah, making a lead on this stuff.

00:47:39.300 And every argument you can put against it, I'm just saying, if you change the incentive structures, like the one that I always hear is the human rights lawyers.

00:47:46.700 If you change the incentives for how it operates, the human rights lawyers will fall in line.

00:47:52.160 So what you could do is you could just put in place a framework for doing remigration fairly.

00:47:58.300 Safely.

00:47:58.780 Yeah.

00:47:59.000 And then they spend all of their time making sure that their clients are remigrated appropriately and fairly.

00:48:05.400 And then they don't get paid until the client has been deported.

00:48:09.000 Yes.

00:48:09.240 And they will all fall in line.

00:48:12.060 Yes.

00:48:12.880 And the ones that don't will just wither.

00:48:15.100 Yes.

00:48:15.280 And without funding.

00:48:16.860 And they'll be replaced by those who are prepared to do it to get the money.

00:48:20.400 So you are exactly right.

00:48:21.400 It's all about incentives.

00:48:22.360 And 99.9% of them will just fall in line immediately as soon as the incentives change.

00:48:27.040 So I've got a little list here.

00:48:28.720 And you've actually talked about some of these.

00:48:31.000 And I just want to sort of make the point for the audience that as I go down this list,

00:48:34.240 if you imagine as soon as we achieve each point, how difficult will it be to achieve the next point on the list?

00:48:41.440 Now, you might not necessarily jump to the last one on the list.

00:48:44.440 But the point is, as you go through them, each incremental step is so small that it's not a problem.

00:48:49.480 So step one, stop the massive inflow.

00:48:51.600 As you pointed out, already happening.

00:48:53.240 Step two, instead of taking people from small boats to hotels to social housing to indefinite leave to remain,

00:49:00.880 just immediately deport them.

00:49:02.140 Take them back to where they came from. 0.99

00:49:03.540 Yes.

00:49:03.860 Just literally.

00:49:04.420 If you came from France, you go back to France. 0.97

00:49:05.900 If you came from wherever, you go back to wherever. 0.99

00:49:07.040 And that happens in every non-Western country today.

00:49:10.280 That happens immediately now.

00:49:11.740 And Keir Starmer did do that the very first moment he came in, didn't he?

00:49:16.000 Did he?

00:49:16.440 Right.

00:49:16.540 Yeah, they turned one boat around, but that was it, one boat.

00:49:19.420 Right.

00:49:19.740 But they turned...

00:49:20.340 So that shows they can do it.

00:49:21.860 Oh, yeah.

00:49:22.140 And they will do it if they will.

00:49:22.940 And they will.

00:49:23.480 Yeah, it's just a matter of deciding to do it.

00:49:25.420 Like you say, a question of political will.

00:49:28.080 Step three, immediately deport the stock of illegal boat people that are already here. 1.00

00:49:31.600 You know, again, it's just not... nothing difficult about this.

00:49:34.760 Four, deport those granted indefinite leave to remain who have committed crimes.

00:49:38.680 Yep.

00:49:39.480 Deport those who have been granted citizenship who committed crimes. 1.00

00:49:43.300 Yep.

00:49:44.540 Enforce food standards uniformly.

00:49:46.320 No halal food anymore.

00:49:47.860 Yep.

00:49:48.020 Just say, okay, no, these food standard safeties, they apply to everything.

00:49:51.200 There's no carve-outs anymore.

00:49:52.160 Target HMRC to take a hard look at Turkish barbers, etc.

00:49:56.840 Yep.

00:49:57.720 Enforce policing standards uniformly.

00:49:59.780 No two-tier anymore.

00:50:01.000 Yep.

00:50:01.520 Again, all of this totally sensible and completely doable.

00:50:04.100 Yep.

00:50:04.460 And a step at a time.

00:50:05.400 It's just not difficult.

00:50:06.020 So, stop granting welfare and social housing to foreign nationals. 1.00

00:50:09.440 Yep.

00:50:10.260 Stop granting welfare and social housing to non-citizens with indefinite leave to remain. 0.99

00:50:14.200 Yep.

00:50:14.780 Stop granting welfare and social housing to anyone who wasn't born here.

00:50:18.440 Yep.

00:50:18.860 Stop granting welfare and social housing to anyone born without British-born grandparents.

00:50:24.520 You know, the final thing I've got is stop train migration.

00:50:29.000 If you marry a Brit, your leave to remain lasts as long as the marriage and as soon as it ends, you have to go. 0.97

00:50:34.760 Sure.

00:50:35.920 And everything on here is normal outside of the West.

00:50:39.840 Yes.

00:50:40.160 And I haven't even gone particularly far with this.

00:50:43.160 No, this is very moderate.

00:50:44.340 I thought it was going to go a lot further.

00:50:45.640 Yeah.

00:50:46.160 Well, there are secret clauses.

00:50:49.000 I was worried I would get in trouble if I carried up to 0.50.

00:50:52.140 But the point is, you get that far and you'll turn the current inflow into an outflow.

00:50:56.760 Oh, yeah.

00:50:57.280 I mean, this is literally what Sweden has done or is doing, the process of doing.

00:51:01.200 And they've got their immigration down to net negative at this point.

00:51:04.560 So, it's like, yeah, no, this is all completely possible.

00:51:06.560 The overpopulation crisis of the West is completely solvable.

00:51:09.400 We just have to want to solve it.

00:51:10.900 Stop giving them money, basically, is the key.

00:51:13.420 Stop bringing them in and giving them money.

00:51:14.760 That's it.

00:51:15.640 It's as simple as that.

00:51:17.040 And the in-wash will turn into a trickle-out.

00:51:19.980 And then if you keep it going for long enough and you keep going down the list, it will be a flow-out.

00:51:26.280 I mean, imagine how many will leave before they just get a letter saying,

00:51:28.480 we're not going to give you any money anymore.

00:51:29.640 Yes.

00:51:30.480 Just imagine that.

00:51:31.320 That would be millions.

00:51:32.320 At the end of the year, your social housing rights have been removed and you're not getting any welfare.

00:51:37.060 Yeah.

00:51:38.320 So, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands will go.

00:51:41.180 Yeah.

00:51:41.880 Because that's why so many of me are in the first place.

00:51:44.460 Yes.

00:51:44.780 It's crazy.

00:51:45.140 So, I wanted to leave one, you know, potentially positive note on this otherwise gloomy day.

00:51:51.120 Well, I've got good and bad.

00:51:52.320 The good is remigration is inevitable. 1.00

00:51:55.000 It is going to happen.

00:51:56.380 The only thing I'd say is that when it starts happening, you're just going to be a bit disappointed.

00:51:59.960 It's going to be a bit meek and mild.

00:52:01.700 And, you know, Harry and Bo are going to be doing segments like this is remigration in name only

00:52:06.800 and why have only 200,000 people left this year and you're going to be very annoyed.

00:52:11.440 So, you are going to get it.

00:52:12.800 It's just going to be a bit crap, but it is going to happen. 0.94

00:52:16.040 Listen, Dan, in any mass movement, there needs to be a right-most edge of radicals pulling everybody else to the right. 0.98

00:52:24.960 Make your own mind.

00:52:26.860 I would include you in that, to be perfectly honest.

00:52:29.880 Thank you very much, sir.

00:52:30.960 We travel in some similar circles.

00:52:33.060 But, anyway, with that, let's take a trip to New York.

00:52:37.300 Hang on a second.

00:52:38.000 Oh, yes.

00:52:38.860 Russian says, Dan, bring up the Germans shouting Germany for Germans during a football match.

00:52:43.060 Minute silence for the victims.

00:52:44.980 And the stadium began chanting Nazis out in response.

00:52:48.820 Oh, God.

00:52:49.640 And I tell you, man, like, everyone says this about Germans, but, like, it is genuinely true that, like, the Germans, this, this, everything that is pro-German is Nazi, is so close to the surface in the German mind. 0.66

00:53:06.720 Oh, yeah.

00:53:07.120 It's very difficult for them to get past it.

00:53:09.140 Like, as soon as the Second World War ended, the Allied governments basically just went, okay, we've got to brainwash you into not being Nazis.

00:53:16.240 And this is the long-lasting effects of that.

00:53:18.680 And then they went, hmm, this actually, this really works.

00:53:21.940 I wonder if the rest of Europe can get this treatment as well.

00:53:24.600 I spent some time in Germany in my early 20s.

00:53:27.380 And every time I met a German, within, like, the first 10 minutes of knowing them, they would engineer into the conversation that they thought Nazis were bad. 0.99

00:53:34.540 And it was like, I haven't asked.

00:53:36.120 Yeah.

00:53:36.320 No, I used to be, I used to live out in Germany.

00:53:38.360 When I was 16, we'd go out into the local town, go drinking.

00:53:41.380 And you'd sit there, you'd meet some German folks, you'd sit there and talk to them, because they don't speak English.

00:53:44.880 And literally, within the course of one pint, we're talking about World War II.

00:53:49.140 And I'm just like, I don't really know anything about World War II.

00:53:50.920 I was 16.

00:53:51.440 I don't care.

00:53:52.400 You know, I don't think you're responsible for it.

00:53:53.500 It happened, you know, 60 years ago, whatever it was.

00:53:55.560 Were they, like, begging your forgiveness?

00:53:57.360 Well, they're not, not...

00:53:59.440 It's the Harry Enfield sketch.

00:54:01.180 That is so true.

00:54:02.060 Like, they just don't want you to think of them as being like those Germans.

00:54:07.000 But the thing is, none of us did think of them like those Germans.

00:54:09.720 Because, of course, they were all decent, good people, you know.

00:54:12.380 And they were just carrying this baggage.

00:54:15.760 But you know what's interesting is what?

00:54:17.060 The Germans are so unbelievably liberal. 0.74

00:54:18.620 It's insufferable.

00:54:19.360 Like, I had a friend who started dating this girl when he was 13.

00:54:22.340 And he went to stay at a house, and they put them in the same bed at 13.

00:54:27.280 And this is very orphan experiment vibes.

00:54:32.240 Well, it's German liberalism, right?

00:54:34.440 They were just normal West German liberals, and this was what they did.

00:54:38.860 And this was completely normal. 0.97

00:54:40.660 And the Germans were insanely open about sex to an embarrassing degree. 0.98

00:54:44.240 I mean, that's always been them, even before the war. 0.77

00:54:46.860 Well, kind of.

00:54:48.920 But, you know, there is a conservative side to them. 0.84

00:54:51.280 But, like, the liberal Germans are insane about it. 0.82

00:54:53.800 But anyway, I don't want to get into it. 0.98

00:54:54.700 This is not about you, O Trash, now. 0.70

00:54:57.900 No, but there's a reason that this stereotype exists. 0.56

00:55:00.280 Sorry, anyway, Karen.

00:55:01.520 Oh, yeah.

00:55:01.980 Well, Johnny Logo, for $5, said just another tip before Xmas, lads.

00:55:06.440 Christmas, I should say.

00:55:07.400 Have a good one.

00:55:08.220 Thank you very much, Johnny.

00:55:09.800 Okay.

00:55:10.320 And now let's finish off this merriment and festive cheer that we've had going.

00:55:15.840 With a trip to New York.

00:55:17.540 New York, the most wonderful time of year.

00:55:20.480 Remember how there used to be, like, Christmas films set in New York?

00:55:23.800 Like, Home Alone 2, where it's presented as this big, amazing theme park of wonderment.

00:55:29.640 You can just run into Donald Trump, and he'll point you in the right direction if you're

00:55:33.300 looking for something.

00:55:34.080 What a wonderful Christmas movie.

00:55:35.620 I know.

00:55:36.000 What a wonderful Christmas time.

00:55:37.740 Harry, you won't remember the 1990s when the world was just a better place.

00:55:41.320 I was born in the 1990s.

00:55:42.580 I know.

00:55:42.880 That's why you don't remember it.

00:55:43.740 I don't remember them very well.

00:55:44.900 But I do remember things being just slightly more peaceful.

00:55:47.540 So what kind of stories do you get in New York, New York, these days?

00:55:50.740 Well, nothing good.

00:55:52.960 Nothing good.

00:55:53.780 So most recently, of course, there was the rather happy news of Daniel Penny's acquittal,

00:56:00.520 which had all of the sorts of media and activist responses that you would expect, including

00:56:06.260 one of the BLM co-founders shouting that we need black vigilantes in the streets to do

00:56:12.960 more of them, something, question mark.

00:56:16.440 But I saw Daniel Penny's acquittal as a good thing.

00:56:19.920 Sadly, him going to trial in the first place was a bad thing that has lots of negative repercussions

00:56:26.940 come off the back of it, because what was the intended message of taking a man who defended

00:56:32.260 his fellow New York subway riders to court?

00:56:35.500 What was the message of that?

00:56:37.960 Well, if you see something and you couldn't get involved, don't.

00:56:41.520 Yep.

00:56:42.240 Don't do anything, citizen.

00:56:44.100 Do not involve yourself.

00:56:46.100 And the media have been trying to sort of carry on that messaging since then.

00:56:50.660 Here's just a few highlights of some headlines that I've seen very recently.

00:56:55.660 Jury acquits Daniel Penny unanimously.

00:56:58.840 Case reflects crisis of capitalism today.

00:57:02.000 That's from The Militant.

00:57:04.080 Not actually on December 30th, because that's in the future.

00:57:07.120 So this website's not very good, but saying that this is all...

00:57:10.660 Might be very prescient.

00:57:11.660 Maybe.

00:57:12.340 This is all due to capitalism, because of course...

00:57:15.460 I might make a website like that where I'm just predicting headlines.

00:57:18.840 Jordan Neely, his, you know, the fact he was a mental case, the fact that he was on the

00:57:24.080 streets, was not a fault of, you know, terrible medical systems or anything like that.

00:57:28.260 Or even his own behaviour, his own actions, being in control of himself choosing to go down

00:57:33.020 the route that he did.

00:57:34.020 No, it's because of the fact that we didn't have enough socialised medical care in New

00:57:38.600 York to make sure that he was safe, even though he actually was being held in an institution

00:57:44.000 and just left.

00:57:46.480 Okay, no, I kind of agree.

00:57:47.900 It kind of, in a way, is a failure of the social contract society.

00:57:51.360 As in, look, you're going to have a system of enunciated rights and responsibilities.

00:57:55.380 And one of those responsibilities is not intervene with an insane, drugged-up psycho on the 0.70

00:58:02.060 subject.

00:58:03.300 Even if he's threatening women and children.

00:58:04.080 That's not one of them, right?

00:58:05.540 Well, do you...

00:58:06.080 I don't know if...

00:58:07.020 There are some states in which they do actually have that, right?

00:58:10.100 Not all states have this, but in some states you do have an obligation to step in.

00:58:13.700 And so, like, they impose the social contract and say, look, these are your rights.

00:58:18.420 Essentially, you don't have to ever deal with any of your fellow citizens.

00:58:20.840 The government will do it all.

00:58:22.240 And then stuff like this happens.

00:58:23.580 And so some of them have to put it, no, you do have to intervene on these.

00:58:26.500 Oh, really, why do we need you at all then?

00:58:28.040 Why do we need this social contract nonsense?

00:58:29.440 If essentially what you're trying to do now is reconstruct the traditional society in

00:58:32.680 which men would intervene, like Daniel Penny, which is why all of the traditional-minded

00:58:37.260 people, the right-wing people, are like, yeah, no, Daniel Penny's a hero, you psychos.

00:58:41.080 Why are you saying this?

00:58:42.100 I mean, there is also the attitude among many communists that you're just not supposed to

00:58:46.780 allow to be comfortable in a big city.

00:58:48.840 You're not supposed to be safe.

00:58:50.060 I know...

00:58:51.280 It's safe.

00:58:52.020 I don't know if you've seen it.

00:58:53.160 The actual Justice Warrior refers to the clip a lot, which is one of the presenters, that 1.00

00:58:58.500 stupid woman from the majority... 1.00

00:59:00.760 Another one, yeah. 1.00

00:59:01.240 Emma Vigland, saying that it was actually very privileged of anybody to assume that if

00:59:06.540 you're taking the subway in New York, that you should be able to feel safe.

00:59:09.940 Which is precisely why, when I went to New York in, like, 2018, and my wife's like, 0.90

00:59:13.160 can we go on the subway?

00:59:13.920 Because she's watched Home Alone, too.

00:59:15.300 I was like, hell no, darling.

00:59:16.980 There's no way.

00:59:17.820 Because I want to feel privileged and safe.

00:59:20.020 Yes.

00:59:20.800 And in New York, it is a privilege to feel safe these days.

00:59:25.140 So let's see some of the other headlines recently.

00:59:27.760 Why Conservatives condemn Luigi Mangione and celebrate Daniel Penny.

00:59:31.860 Well, there's a simple reason for that, which is Luigi shot a man in the street.

00:59:36.620 In cold blood.

00:59:37.260 In cold blood.

00:59:37.960 In the back.

00:59:38.960 In the back.

00:59:39.780 And Daniel Penny restrained a man who later overdosed.

00:59:43.940 He was probably going to shoot someone in cold blood.

00:59:46.200 Or, you know... 1.00

00:59:47.100 Or beat them to death. 1.00

00:59:49.100 Or do something physical. 0.99

00:59:50.040 I love the fact that that's confusing for a leftist.

00:59:52.620 I mean, it is Vox.

00:59:54.240 But it is confusing for a leftist.

00:59:55.640 You are actually absolutely right.

00:59:57.200 They are literally like, whoa, these Conservatives and their crazy worldviews of protecting innocents

01:00:03.080 and not killing civilians.

01:00:05.400 There's also another question that all of this brings up, which is, has anybody thought

01:00:10.140 about the feelings of poor old Alvin Bray?

01:00:14.380 No.

01:00:15.040 No.

01:00:15.720 No.

01:00:16.080 No.

01:00:16.140 I love this.

01:00:18.200 This is a New York Times article.

01:00:19.120 Why do I care about Alvin Bragg?

01:00:20.660 As you go through, it becomes clearer and clearer that it's trying to make the case that

01:00:25.040 Alvin Bragg is being unfairly targeted, despite the fact that he brought the case, which should

01:00:30.200 never have been brought in the first place.

01:00:32.080 And evil...

01:00:32.660 Is he the Attorney General of New York, right?

01:00:34.200 Yeah.

01:00:34.580 And evil right-wingers are criticising Alvin Bragg for doing things like, as soon as he

01:00:40.460 assumed the position, saying that New York police officers shouldn't jail people for

01:00:44.860 anything less than, say, murder, robbery of a certain amount of money.

01:00:50.400 They shouldn't... just don't deal with most crime that affects people on a day-to-day basis.

01:00:55.060 I mean, is Alvin Bragg's goal to turn New York into Gotham City or something?

01:00:59.960 Likely.

01:01:01.040 Is that actually what he's trying to achieve?

01:01:02.900 Because this is how you do it.

01:01:04.800 Yeah.

01:01:05.180 Yeah, probably.

01:01:06.340 But New York Times wants you to know that this is actually... this was a real big persecution

01:01:10.680 for Alvin Bragg.

01:01:12.040 Poor old Alvin.

01:01:12.860 Poor guy, I know, right?

01:01:14.260 He should just have free reign to take whoever he wants to court for defending innocent people.

01:01:18.700 The Guardian went with a pretty typical one.

01:01:21.700 Daniel Penny's acquittal reveals double standard about white vigilante crime.

01:01:26.660 Well, what's the double standard?

01:01:27.560 Because, well, the double standard is that he should have just let Jordan Neely abuse

01:01:34.220 people.

01:01:35.260 Because we've got this picture of him from, like, 13 years ago pretending to be Michael Jackson.

01:01:39.880 Right.

01:01:40.580 Ah, the sub-headline. 0.98

01:01:41.540 In a long-standard pattern in the US, white killers are celebrated and black victims are 0.98

01:01:46.940 denigrated. 0.98

01:01:47.860 Right.

01:01:48.060 So, basically, you just flip it around and then it all makes sense.

01:01:51.900 I mean, he had just been released from prison in late 2023 for abusing... well, sorry, late

01:01:57.160 2022, I think, for abusing old people, like beating up an old lady.

01:02:02.680 So, there's a reason that we're denigrating Jordan Neely, which is that he is a bad person.

01:02:08.000 I love that you explained it to a child.

01:02:12.220 Yes.

01:02:12.480 Yeah, so Jordan Neely was dangerous and bad.

01:02:14.400 Leftists.

01:02:15.360 Daniel Penny, hero and save people, therefore good. 0.99

01:02:18.740 Listen, we know from scientific studies that leftists quite literally have brain damage. 0.83

01:02:23.820 That's true.

01:02:24.140 Because they have atrophied amygdalas and, apparently, if you do something with your brain waves,

01:02:30.700 it can make you less religious and more open to immigration.

01:02:34.540 Oh, I heard that.

01:02:35.320 Yes, they've got tiny amygdalas, which is the fear part of the brain, so it gets basically...

01:02:39.620 Well, it's more the risk management.

01:02:41.380 Yeah, but it gets flooded, it gets filled very, very easily.

01:02:46.200 So, that's why they're constantly afraid of everything and they can't manage risk because

01:02:49.900 the tiny amygdalas just can't handle anything.

01:02:51.660 Well, it's probably one of the reasons why they're so, you know, why they're so anxious

01:02:55.620 about everything all the time and refuse to go outside.

01:02:58.260 But also, if I lived in New York City...

01:03:00.040 Yeah, I'd be anxious.

01:03:00.600 Maybe I would as well.

01:03:02.880 And there's this one from The Nation as well.

01:03:05.480 Trump invites a killer to his luxury box.

01:03:07.900 Now, again, it wasn't specifically said in the court case, but it's very, very clear

01:03:13.000 when you examine the evidence that was presented by the defence that Jordan Neely died of an

01:03:18.740 overdose and basically heart problems.

01:03:21.660 Oh, really?

01:03:22.440 I thought that was...

01:03:22.940 Yeah, I wonder what other cases we've heard it might be.

01:03:25.020 Well, I know, I know.

01:03:27.020 History doesn't repeat, but it certainly rhymes.

01:03:29.600 It does.

01:03:30.160 Yes.

01:03:30.520 And also, I just want to give a shout out to this amazing picture here, because like

01:03:35.680 with all of the Donald Trump photos that came from this year, 99% of the Daniel Penny photos

01:03:41.740 make him look like such a badass.

01:03:44.680 So cool.

01:03:45.580 They want him to look evil, they're like, oh, cast him in dark light, make sure that

01:03:49.140 you've got the flash so you get a big, long shadow of him.

01:03:51.600 No, this is amazing.

01:03:53.620 He literally looks like Batman.

01:03:55.240 If New York is Gotham, then this is Batman taking up the solemn duty to defend his fellow

01:04:04.260 citizens.

01:04:04.960 It's quite incredible.

01:04:05.900 So what's the result of all of this narrative that has been pushed on New Yorkers in particular?

01:04:12.340 As you mentioned at the beginning, Dan, it is, if you see somebody in need, do not help

01:04:16.380 them.

01:04:16.760 Yes.

01:04:17.020 Which is the exact opposite of what Daniel Penny has said that he will do, because he

01:04:21.600 said if he had to go through it all over again, he would to help people, but it's trying to

01:04:25.720 promote anti-social behavior.

01:04:27.240 Well, that proves that Daniel Penny is a better man than I, because if I, for some reason,

01:04:32.040 found myself in New York and saw something going on, unless it was somebody that I cared

01:04:36.480 about, I'd walk away.

01:04:37.320 Well, we don't need Daniel Penny's, actually.

01:04:40.440 We don't need people to help the fellow citizens of a city like New York, because it's full

01:04:45.680 of cameras.

01:04:46.420 The subway's full of cameras.

01:04:48.020 And Kathy, the governor, Kathy Hochul, said that back in March, she wanted to make sure

01:04:52.720 that the subways were safer for millions of people who take the trains each day, and since

01:04:57.340 deploying more police officers and more cameras...

01:04:59.060 Sorry, is she saying she's deploying the National Guard?

01:05:01.440 Yes.

01:05:02.360 Jesus Christ, how bad must New York Subway be?

01:05:04.780 We've got cameras to all subway cars, crime is going down, ridership is going up, so...

01:05:10.480 Yeah, we've turned it into a police state.

01:05:11.900 Yeah, we've got a positive trend.

01:05:12.680 You've literally got the National Guard there.

01:05:14.860 Yeah, but also, just because you've got cameras doesn't mean the crime stops, it just means

01:05:18.120 the crime is...

01:05:19.240 Oh yeah, but that's what the National Guard are for. 0.96

01:05:21.540 You've literally got armed soldiers standing there going, you're not committing crimes,

01:05:24.800 I guess.

01:05:25.280 Yeah, but it's not going to be based fire on site, though, is it?

01:05:27.960 Well, there is one problem with all of this, though, which is that it turns out security

01:05:33.100 cameras and the National Guard can't help when somebody spontaneously combusts.

01:05:38.140 Oh, good point.

01:05:38.740 When they just explode into flames for no reason.

01:05:41.180 Is that a common problem?

01:05:42.680 I think I'm going to refer to the community note on this one.

01:05:45.340 Yeah, more and more, it's a common problem that somebody just catches fire.

01:05:49.940 Yeah.

01:05:50.320 Thanks to New York Daily.

01:05:51.060 It's like a Jacob's Ladder scenario where crazy things are just happening to you on

01:05:55.840 the subway because you're in a nightmare world.

01:05:58.560 Well, actually, that last part is quite true.

01:06:02.040 You've got to love left-wing media.

01:06:03.640 They're hanging on by a tendon, and they think, what can we do because we're hanging on by a

01:06:09.240 tendon?

01:06:09.620 Oh, I know, we write a headline like that.

01:06:11.140 This is just like that loud noise that made Donald Trump fall over earlier this year.

01:06:14.920 Oh, no, the Magdeburg Christmas Market attack, the car drives through Christmas Market.

01:06:20.600 It's like, did it?

01:06:20.900 These rogue cars.

01:06:21.920 My goodness, was it one of Elon's self-driving Teslas, was it?

01:06:24.700 No, it wasn't.

01:06:25.300 It was driven by an immigrant. 0.56

01:06:26.340 Yeah, is this what happened?

01:06:27.500 Did a woman just randomly catch fire? 1.00

01:06:29.460 Did she set on fire and everyone had a spook and she died?

01:06:32.740 Is that what it was?

01:06:33.920 No.

01:06:34.720 Guess who it was?

01:06:35.680 It was a Guatemalan migrant who allegedly set her on fire and then just sort of sat 1.00

01:06:42.000 around watching.

01:06:42.880 I saw the footage and it's awful because she's just standing there.

01:06:45.580 Was she on drugs or something?

01:06:47.420 The woman's reaction was weird. 1.00

01:06:48.940 She had been asleep, and I assume, given it's the New York subway, it's the F train

01:06:53.680 line, which, interestingly enough, is the same one where the Jordan Neely Daniel Penny

01:06:57.680 situation happened.

01:07:00.280 Yeah, I don't know if she had been on drugs or she was drunk or something. 0.67

01:07:04.160 I do have the link of what happened.

01:07:06.180 I'm not going to show it because it's pretty horrifying, but if you want to look at it yourself,

01:07:10.240 you can find the link on the website underneath this video.

01:07:14.160 But yeah, the reaction is strange, but it looked like she was already half-burned to death. 0.96

01:07:19.360 Who is the woman, by the way? 0.98

01:07:21.200 I mean, old or young?

01:07:22.100 She has not been identified yet.

01:07:24.160 She was homeless, though, wasn't she?

01:07:26.060 She's not been identified.

01:07:27.320 So I'd assume she was sleeping on the subway, so I assume she was some kind of homeless drug 1.00

01:07:31.200 addict or drunk or something, obviously, was up with her. 0.68

01:07:35.120 And as a result, if you try and do that, your fellow citizens will just set you on fire.

01:07:42.060 Well, he's probably illegal, to be honest, isn't he?

01:07:44.620 Well, yeah, let's read what it says here.

01:07:46.580 A Guatemalan migrant, I believe his name has been confirmed to be Sebastian Zapata, has

01:07:53.980 been arrested for allegedly lighting a sleeping subway rider on fire in Brooklyn on Sunday

01:07:59.240 morning, then watching as his innocent victim burned to death in what the police commissioner

01:08:03.820 called one of the most depraved crimes one person could possibly commit.

01:08:08.160 The savage killing happened at about 7.30am on an F train, and obviously the commuters were

01:08:15.720 shocked, and the NYPD commissioner, Jessica Teach, said that the heinous crime took the

01:08:20.540 life of an innocent New Yorker.

01:08:22.000 As the train pulled into the station, the suspect calmly walked up to the victim, and

01:08:25.640 they have all of this on camera.

01:08:26.940 Yeah, yeah, that's alright.

01:08:27.460 They have all of this, not just the camera footage that you can find, also, obviously,

01:08:31.360 the new ones that are on the trains, on the cabins.

01:08:35.140 Walked up to the victim, who was in a seated position at the end of a subway car, and used

01:08:38.840 what we believe to be a lighter to ignite the victim's clothing, which became fully engulfed

01:08:42.820 in a matter of seconds.

01:08:44.720 Why?

01:08:45.120 They extinguished the blaze, but the victim died at the scene.

01:08:48.380 Officials said that the 33-year-old suspect came to the US in 2018 from Guatemala.

01:08:53.320 He was detained by Border Patrol agents in Arizona in June of that year, and his legal

01:08:58.300 status wasn't immediately clear on Sunday night.

01:09:01.560 So it's likely that he's an illegal invasion.

01:09:03.340 It's entirely possible that this is one of the 13,000 murderers who was released by the

01:09:07.400 Border Patrol into the United States.

01:09:09.460 Your question as to why, I think, is a good one.

01:09:12.340 Because to the Anglo mind, if we were thinking about committing a crime, I mean, I could see 0.99

01:09:16.640 robbing a bank.

01:09:17.720 I mean, that would kind of make sense to me.

01:09:19.420 I'd have a contingency plan to get away with it.

01:09:21.900 Yeah.

01:09:22.300 But that sort of thing works for the Anglo mind.

01:09:26.600 If I was going to commit a crime, and I was going to commit human sacrifice by setting

01:09:31.220 somebody on the subway light, I mean, it would simply never occur to me.

01:09:36.380 Certainly if it was going to occur to you to do it on an impulse, you wouldn't then decide,

01:09:40.080 well, I'll just sit here, enjoy my handiwork, hang about a bit.

01:09:43.920 Yeah.

01:09:44.140 I mean, what did he think was going to be the outcome of this?

01:09:47.660 Who knows?

01:09:48.420 Who knows?

01:09:49.440 Dare we try to look into this man's mind?

01:09:52.220 Like, you don't understand these people.

01:09:54.500 You just don't understand them.

01:09:55.920 Don't think like us.

01:09:57.020 But he'd actually received transit summons in May 2023, but otherwise had no criminal

01:10:02.700 record in New York City, and was living at a shelter on Randall's Island at the time

01:10:06.900 of the infraction.

01:10:07.900 He brazenly sat on a nearby bench as cops huddled around, pulling his hood up at one point

01:10:13.060 just before an officer spoke to him.

01:10:14.920 Later in the day, they didn't catch him straight away, he was able to just do all of this and

01:10:18.800 then sit there and even spoke to the police.

01:10:20.880 But it was later in the day, three high schoolers called the police to say they saw the man

01:10:26.920 pictured in images released from the cameras.

01:10:31.020 And according to Tish and the others, that's how they were able to find him.

01:10:35.440 They found the suspect already on another train leaving the station, wearing the same

01:10:40.140 grey hoodie, wool hat, and paint-splattered pants he'd been wearing when he torched the

01:10:43.800 victim.

01:10:44.820 Police don't believe the migrant and the victim knew each other before the killing.

01:10:48.880 And again, the woman has not been identified.

01:10:51.420 So this guy, casually hanging around, sees a woman sleeping, sets her on fire. 0.98

01:10:58.340 Sets her on fire.

01:10:59.060 And the worst part of the footage, outside of the fact that obviously you see a poor woman

01:11:02.940 burning to death, is the fact they say, oh you know, like the police came and they extinguished

01:11:07.240 the blaze.

01:11:07.680 You can see in the footage, she's stood in the door of the train carriage, police officers

01:11:13.660 walk past without even giving a glance.

01:11:15.260 And no one around is doing anything.

01:11:17.060 It takes a little bit, but a few people show up and try to, you know, like get a coat over

01:11:21.620 her to try and extinguish the flames, all of that stuff.

01:11:24.820 But everybody is acting remarkably calm.

01:11:27.960 The thing that I'm still stuck on is the sheer randomness of this.

01:11:32.180 Did you ever watch, what's it, Jessica something from Murder, She Wrote?

01:11:38.480 You know, that little old, that series.

01:11:39.980 It was an 80s series.

01:11:41.420 Jessica something would turn up and there'd been a murder.

01:11:45.380 And then she would logically piece it together because one thing connects to that and that

01:11:50.140 connects to that.

01:11:50.800 And then she'd have this whole chain of logic.

01:11:53.480 There's no logical chain to follow here, isn't there?

01:11:55.640 Yeah.

01:11:55.880 But can you imagine Jessica, whatever her name is, turning up to solve one of the modern

01:12:00.460 crimes that we get?

01:12:02.620 There's no logic.

01:12:03.920 There's no...

01:12:04.380 I mean, I kind of want to set myself the challenge over Christmas of coming up with...

01:12:09.240 Thesis.

01:12:09.900 No, the immigrant version of Cluedo.

01:12:13.880 I don't know how...

01:12:15.100 I don't know where I can take that yet.

01:12:16.580 Why did he do this?

01:12:17.820 Yeah, yeah.

01:12:18.120 And then you have to come up with a motive at the end as well.

01:12:21.480 That's going to be the hardest part.

01:12:23.040 That's going to take longer than a monopolist.

01:12:24.320 Did he use the lighter on the subway?

01:12:26.600 Did Mr. Raman Nemesweakos use a lighter on the subway?

01:12:31.020 I'm thinking of like Sherlock Holmes.

01:12:32.380 It's like, okay, why did Professor Moriarty do this?

01:12:34.300 Or how...

01:12:34.600 He's got a very complex...

01:12:36.680 Ah, yeah, that was...

01:12:37.200 But this is...

01:12:38.040 Yeah, it does just seem completely random.

01:12:40.320 It's like, okay, Sherlock, good luck.

01:12:41.560 I don't know, he's brown, I don't know.

01:12:43.180 Yeah.

01:12:44.200 What is his...

01:12:44.960 I mean...

01:12:45.240 Several steps are missing.

01:12:46.340 What is his bloody motive?

01:12:46.900 Yeah, so this is another case where, like in the first segment, while we have a better idea in the first segment of the Magdeburg Killer's motives, with this, you really, when you have strangers amongst you who are not of your culture, of your people, you really just don't understand them.

01:13:09.660 And you can't predict what they're going to do, and oftentimes, you just won't be safe around them.

01:13:16.020 And sadly, in New York, that seems to be how it operates now.

01:13:20.040 This is part and parcel of living in a modern, diverse, multicultural city.

01:13:24.040 And the incentives that have been put in place by public spectacles, like the Daniel Penney trial, are that if you do see something, don't do anything.

01:13:33.900 Because you might get charged, you might get in trouble, your face is going to be the one plastered across all of the newspapers, your name is going to be dragged through the mud.

01:13:42.440 So are you saying that he was arrested because afterwards he tried to put her out?

01:13:46.540 No.

01:13:47.180 Right.

01:13:47.860 No, he certainly did not.

01:13:49.360 I see.

01:13:49.880 Right.

01:13:51.260 OPHUK says, being set on fire is just part of living in a big city, you bigots.

01:13:54.720 And Smokey Bongo says, Merry Christmas, lads.

01:13:56.920 Thank you very much, man.

01:13:57.800 Merry Christmas.

01:13:58.460 Hopefully the comments and the videos will be much more entertaining now.

01:14:02.140 Before we go on, though, can we come back to the image of that guy being arrested?

01:14:06.120 Yeah, yeah.

01:14:07.620 I can't help but see this as a weirdly anachronistic photo.

01:14:11.840 Like, he's wearing his New York t-shirt, but like, he looks like he should be wearing Aztec feathers.

01:14:19.080 Yes, and yeah, I noticed that.

01:14:20.360 It's a human sacrifice.

01:14:21.480 I noticed that.

01:14:22.200 You know, he looks very Aztec-y.

01:14:24.440 And maybe he was.

01:14:25.700 Maybe, yeah.

01:14:27.220 Honestly, no motive, no connection to the victim, just does it on a whim, set somebody on fire.

01:14:34.380 Maybe this is some kind of weird pagan ritual.

01:14:37.100 It's just encoded into the DNA, must commit human sacrifice.

01:14:40.760 Well, I don't know about necessarily the DNA aspect, but like, I just don't know.

01:14:45.980 Like, it's just, the way he looks, he looks out of time to me.

01:14:50.820 I don't know.

01:14:51.240 But anyway, that's, don't put that on the YouTube clip.

01:14:55.200 Editors, you best not do that.

01:14:56.540 Yeah, my physiognomy analysis.

01:14:58.500 Anyway, let's carry on.

01:14:59.520 Let's go with video comments.

01:15:02.560 You should coin a term for your measure of economic success, which should be like, I don't

01:15:07.880 know, reality-based.

01:15:09.040 I really like this idea, so I worked up what I think is a good measure for inflation, based

01:15:14.120 on things that you cannot live without.

01:15:16.100 Fuel especially, since any product that has been transported will require fuel.

01:15:19.800 Not sure I believe the current average wage either.

01:15:22.300 I didn't look into them, but to make this reality-based, I thought of a few metrics that

01:15:26.140 could be factored in.

01:15:27.560 At the bottom was a suggested name that I quite liked.

01:15:30.180 Hmm.

01:15:32.960 The reality-based.

01:15:33.340 It's married to that.

01:15:34.020 I'll take a deeper look at that.

01:15:35.560 But 500% since 1980 seems, yeah, seems about right. 1.00

01:15:41.020 I'll take a deeper look, but yeah, that looks good.

01:15:42.740 No trigger time in this one.

01:15:47.260 It was just a nice afternoon to take the dog and the shotgun out for a walk in the woods.

01:15:54.120 When the snow cleared up, we had a bald eagle circle overhead for a little while, which

01:15:58.140 was pretty cool.

01:16:00.120 In any case, Merry Christmas, Lotus Eaters.

01:16:03.380 Very endearing.

01:16:06.300 I assume this is Canada.

01:16:09.640 It looks lovely.

01:16:11.140 Yeah, what a nice place.

01:16:13.800 Merry Christmas to you two.

01:16:17.880 To everyone at the Lotus Eaters, and to all of you wonderful people at home who watch

01:16:24.160 the Lotus Eaters, wishing you all a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

01:16:33.380 May 2025 be a much better year for us all.

01:16:39.660 And God bless you all.

01:16:42.500 Thank you, Sam.

01:16:43.580 Thanks.

01:16:44.140 Very nice.

01:16:47.240 And I will just say to you all, I am not basic-based.

01:17:03.380 So you took that personally and commissioned that video.

01:17:17.540 I mean, that wasn't it.

01:17:18.460 How much did that cost?

01:17:19.380 Did you guys get it?

01:17:20.860 I mean, I think it was, was it Californian Refugees started ranking us on some tier table.

01:17:26.380 And I was putting the sodding bottom.

01:17:27.860 Yes.

01:17:28.580 Sounds bad.

01:17:28.940 Sodding bottom, basic-based.

01:17:30.860 Soggy bottom.

01:17:31.620 Don't take it personally.

01:17:33.260 Oh, oh no.

01:17:35.200 Why would I take that personally?

01:17:37.920 This is why he's basically-

01:17:39.220 Where did you end up?

01:17:40.320 I'm not on there yet.

01:17:43.320 Honestly, judging how it's going right now, I'm not saying this to big myself up.

01:17:48.280 I'm expecting Josh and I to be the highest.

01:17:50.020 Well, anyway, thank you, Mike.

01:17:54.980 Man, all this talk of groomers just makes me want to film some wholesome content.

01:18:00.460 Here's my dog, Sakura.

01:18:02.140 She just came back from the groomers.

01:18:05.100 Yes, when you have a Shiba Inu, Shiba Inus shed twice a year.

01:18:10.820 Usually for six months at a time.

01:18:13.320 So without the groomers, let me tell you, she sheds enough we could stuff a duvet. 1.00

01:18:18.080 Very nice, though.

01:18:21.200 Very cute, though.

01:18:22.400 My dog sheds.

01:18:24.580 You're supposed to use this grooming brush thing every day, but we can never be bothered

01:18:28.320 with that, so we just end up running the vacuum clean all over the place.

01:18:31.340 I thought you were going to say over the dog.

01:18:33.260 There we go.

01:18:34.340 I hadn't thought of that.

01:18:35.320 There are loads of comments which are happy, Merry Christmas comments.

01:18:38.980 Merry Christmas to you guys as well.

01:18:40.260 Baron von Warhawk says this guy is extremely disturbing, for the first one, since he was

01:18:47.120 in the West since 2006, was a doctor, and for the most part, he was seen as someone who

01:18:51.240 wasn't religious, yet he still decided to plow a truck into 200 people, which implies

01:18:55.840 that every single one of them who comes to Europe is essentially a sleeper agent that 0.98

01:18:58.960 can attack at any time.

01:19:00.280 The thing is, I don't want to say that, obviously, because I don't think it's entirely fair,

01:19:02.820 but he definitely had a kind of mindset that is just alien to the West, and he can say,

01:19:09.640 well, now I'm doing it for atheism, okay, it's the plowing people into, plowing cars into 0.92

01:19:15.260 people that's the problem, right?

01:19:16.600 Well, instead of like Al-Hu-Akbar, he can say, for Fauci!

01:19:19.540 Yeah, exactly.

01:19:20.460 It's like...

01:19:21.100 It's a bit like, I've been on holiday and had a full English breakfast in Turkey and

01:19:26.340 in Thailand, and on both occasions, it was absolutely nothing like a full English breakfast.

01:19:32.020 It was this weird parody of it.

01:19:33.980 It's the same concept.

01:19:36.180 Kind of, yeah.

01:19:38.620 Russian says, is there a terrorist the BBC won't have promoted?

01:19:42.840 Yes.

01:19:44.160 No.

01:19:44.980 I think people should start, like, Minority Report style, going back through old BBC puff

01:19:52.140 pieces and finding terrorists, because they will be in there.

01:19:57.060 It's like Tom Cruise, a Minority Report, he's just reading the BBC.

01:19:59.880 The future terrorist...

01:20:02.280 He's got suspicious physiognomy.

01:20:04.340 The future terrorist will be being interviewed by a future nonce.

01:20:07.480 No, current nonce.

01:20:08.620 Well, current nonce.

01:20:09.060 Past, present.

01:20:09.660 Future future nonce.

01:20:10.940 Yes.

01:20:12.040 Anyway, the palest son of Yacoub says, no atheist immigration, it's what John Locke would have 1.00

01:20:16.880 wanted.

01:20:17.640 Yeah, if we're going to be centre-right classical liberals, we need to take this stuff really

01:20:21.020 seriously.

01:20:21.780 Yeah. 1.00

01:20:22.580 Arm the entire populace, kill all of the atheists. 1.00

01:20:25.960 Yeah. 1.00

01:20:26.740 I'm willing to convert.

01:20:27.260 I'm so sorry.

01:20:28.200 Okay.

01:20:28.800 I'm more than willing to convert.

01:20:29.860 You best convert quick.

01:20:31.100 The thing is, I think what's really holding me back is a good cause, right?

01:20:34.800 It's like, look, we're going on a crusade.

01:20:36.320 I'm like, you know what?

01:20:37.080 I think I'd take the cross-up. 0.96

01:20:38.580 I'm actually up for this.

01:20:40.040 All right, so give me a reason.

01:20:41.680 Well, what about the original reason to reclaim Europe?

01:20:44.820 What?

01:20:45.660 That wasn't the original reason to convert to Christianity.

01:20:48.040 Oh, a crusade, I thought you said.

01:20:49.280 Oh, right, yeah.

01:20:49.980 Well, it wasn't Europe, it was the Middle East.

01:20:51.800 I think it started with reclaiming Europe.

01:20:54.920 No, it started in Jerusalem.

01:20:56.580 It ended up being reclaiming Al-Andalus.

01:21:00.620 And for various other reasons.

01:21:01.880 Oh, right.

01:21:02.380 Yeah, because actually there was a really long build-up to it when they were still in Europe.

01:21:08.480 And initially it was about reclaiming Jerusalem.

01:21:10.300 Yeah, the original purpose was reclaiming Europe, but by the time they actually got around

01:21:14.440 to it.

01:21:14.760 But the point is, you know, like, raising the cross above certain important historic

01:21:20.560 places, you know, I'd be up for that.

01:21:23.520 I'd be up for that.

01:21:23.940 I think that's a worthy cause.

01:21:25.480 Yes.

01:21:25.900 Very important financial backers wouldn't want you raising a cross over there. 0.86

01:21:30.420 You don't have to convince me, Carl.

01:21:31.660 I'm already in.

01:21:32.880 Warlord Wutu Tai says, I wonder if the Arab mindset there exists, the difference between

01:21:37.060 a Western country's government and its people.

01:21:39.360 Well, that's the thing, isn't it?

01:21:40.260 Like, this guy wasn't distinguishing between the government and the people.

01:21:42.960 And so, like you said, Harry, he just viewed it as an existential other that he was taking

01:21:48.900 advantage of.

01:21:49.420 It's us versus them. 0.99

01:21:51.040 Them, as ever, are a bunch of suckers who need to give me what I want. 0.99

01:21:55.400 And if they don't, then I'm just going to plough through them all. 0.99

01:21:58.540 That's literally what he was saying.

01:22:00.360 And it's like, okay, well, we can take him at his word on that, I think.

01:22:03.920 I don't see why we, you know, impute any doubt to it.

01:22:07.480 But he points out, you know, so he punishes the citizenry for the actions of the state.

01:22:11.080 Like, yes, that's exactly what he seems to have done.

01:22:14.080 Derek says, remember that everyone has a religion, regardless of whether you think you have one

01:22:17.560 or not.

01:22:19.020 The question is, what fruits does it bear, and are they good or not?

01:22:22.600 Baystate says, there is another explanation, accelerationism.

01:22:26.440 He might want to provoke Europe to react harshly by clamping down on Muslim infiltration by staging 1.00

01:22:30.520 one himself.

01:22:32.020 Well, maybe, but that's just not his given reason.

01:22:34.240 And we would have to assume that.

01:22:36.380 Yeah, he's left a very detailed trail for his own beliefs and views for it to be staging

01:22:44.180 a fake Muslim attack.

01:22:45.760 Well, this is why I don't believe the Takir thing. 1.00

01:22:47.540 It's like, no, I think, you know, 10 years and you set up an NGO and you sit there going,

01:22:51.920 the German government is not looking after these Arab ex-Muslim women, therefore I'm going 1.00

01:22:57.440 to attack them.

01:22:58.280 I mean, I don't think he's lying. 1.00

01:22:59.600 I think he's mental.

01:23:04.020 Justin says, we need sponsorship for immigrants.

01:23:06.280 Anyone who stops an immigrant from being deported after they commit a crime will, if 1.00

01:23:09.200 the immigrant commits further crimes, suffer the same punishment. 0.98

01:23:12.160 Yeah, like some sort of relation, like feudal relation.

01:23:19.120 This is your bondsman now.

01:23:21.340 You know, like Gary Lineker, these are your bondsmen.

01:23:24.020 You are responsible for these men.

01:23:25.500 And so whatever they do, the ultimate responsibility lies on you.

01:23:30.060 Is that the medieval notion?

01:23:31.340 Yeah, it is.

01:23:32.120 Because I knew it used to be the case that, I mean, the job of an innsman, if a traveller 1.00

01:23:37.600 came to town and stayed at an inn, the innsman was responsible if that person committed any

01:23:42.160 crime.

01:23:42.760 Yes.

01:23:43.100 So why not, yeah, exactly, just bring that system back.

01:23:45.440 And if you're a leftist and you support immigration.

01:23:47.440 Right.

01:23:48.240 These three are your responsibility.

01:23:50.980 And if they commit any crime, you're doing the time as well.

01:23:53.680 Well, Arizona Desert Rat says, was Saudi Arabia even involved in a conflict in 2016?

01:23:58.600 No.

01:24:00.240 Saudi Arabia, I mean, unless they were bombing Yemen back then, but I don't think they were.

01:24:05.160 But no, the refugee status comes from them being an Islamic country and he being like, 1.00

01:24:10.260 oh, I'm an ex-Muslim.

01:24:11.300 It's like, okay, well, what does Islam do to ex-Muslims?

01:24:13.660 Well, we don't want to talk about that.

01:24:15.220 That's Islamophobic.

01:24:17.540 Anyway.

01:24:17.740 Omar says, you can understand the motives of someone like Luigi Magnioni.

01:24:22.400 The target is at least tangentially related to his predicament.

01:24:26.380 To be able to attack innocent kids and families shows the boundaries of their in-slash-out-group

01:24:30.160 circles doesn't include the West.

01:24:32.700 Exactly.

01:24:33.960 He might not consider Muslims to be his in-group, but he considers them to be part of the human

01:24:38.140 circle.

01:24:38.700 Well, ex-Muslims, that's the thing, is the issue. 1.00

01:24:41.260 So, Arabs, essentially, is what he was in favor of. 0.70

01:24:46.140 Like, Arab non-Muslims. 1.00

01:24:47.680 I want as many of them in the West as possible. 0.99

01:24:49.680 For their own good, not for our good.

01:24:51.420 The rest of us are propositional humans, and second, he disagrees with the proposition.

01:24:57.040 Tribal consequence from tribal humans. 0.98

01:24:59.040 Yeah.

01:24:59.760 Jimbo says, well, at least we found one of those doctors we hear so much about.

01:25:03.360 Well, yeah, that was the thing.

01:25:04.020 It's like, you know, we're bringing over doctors.

01:25:08.780 It's like, okay, well, now one of the doctors has gone on a terrorist attack.

01:25:12.200 Oh, it's a bit more than one.

01:25:13.040 Did you see my tweet?

01:25:14.180 No.

01:25:14.440 I put out one on, basically, the list of doctors who committed terrorist attacks.

01:25:20.220 There's a whole list of them.

01:25:21.160 Oh, is there?

01:25:21.660 Yeah.

01:25:22.020 Wasn't there also a report as well, recently, that 60% of all doctors assaulting, sexually

01:25:27.500 assaulting patients in the NHS are foreign?

01:25:31.300 There was.

01:25:32.080 Yeah.

01:25:32.540 Yeah, there was, actually.

01:25:35.800 Lord Nerevar says, instead of Fed posting about the Magdaver attack,

01:25:38.780 I shall instead hop onto the podcast here and wish everyone a happy Christmas at the

01:25:43.180 Lotus Eaters.

01:25:44.740 And all the faithful subscribers, a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

01:25:47.480 Here's to our inevitable victory.

01:25:49.080 Well, like Dan pointed out in his segment, like, things are happening and we are going

01:25:53.400 in the direction that is necessary.

01:25:54.960 It's just how many people are going to have to die to get to that point when we could have

01:25:59.060 begun there just using a bit of just, I mean, just common sense and basic reasoning.

01:26:04.040 Yes, not being leftards 20 years ago would have solved all of this. 1.00

01:26:07.440 Yeah, basically, yeah.

01:26:09.680 And that is really what it boils down to.

01:26:11.520 It's like, yeah, no, they're all just blank slate humans, bro.

01:26:13.600 It's like, are they, though?

01:26:15.800 Dr. David says, if only Hitler had thought to check Dr. Mengele's qualifications.

01:26:21.860 Maybe you did.

01:26:23.600 Santa is a Mossad informant using Palantir to spy on children, says, I will have no bad words

01:26:28.300 against Santa.

01:26:29.460 The bacon test is actually the origin of tapas.

01:26:31.740 You'll test if someone is a moor by offering them little bits of pork and wine. 1.00

01:26:36.520 I have been told this before.

01:26:37.920 I didn't know that.

01:26:38.740 That's interesting.

01:26:39.540 I have been told that.

01:26:40.240 So I've reinvented tapas, except better.

01:26:43.160 Yeah.

01:26:43.440 Because it's English.

01:26:44.000 Because it's Anglo. 0.99

01:26:44.740 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:26:45.700 What are you doing giving me this tiny rubbish little portions?

01:26:48.900 If you're going to feed me, feed me a full meal.

01:26:51.060 So have you got any brown sauce?

01:26:53.060 It makes me think better with tapas, though.

01:26:55.600 Yeah.

01:26:55.800 Oh, yeah, obviously, yeah.

01:26:57.240 But no, that's genuinely hilarious.

01:26:59.300 Like, go to a country, all right, you've got to drink this milk and eat this bacon sandwich.

01:27:02.020 That's brilliant.

01:27:03.340 Amazing.

01:27:04.120 That's the kind of attitude they're looking for.

01:27:06.580 Exactly.

01:27:07.460 Well, yeah, exactly.

01:27:08.080 I'll be a model immigrant.

01:27:10.740 The Illegal Truth says...

01:27:12.020 You'd be like Tom Hanks in that film, Airport, where he just goes around and around and around

01:27:15.140 all the time.

01:27:16.860 Haven't we already fed you four times already, sir?

01:27:19.600 No, it must have been somebody else. 1.00

01:27:21.040 You're a racist. 1.00

01:27:23.480 Just claws with a bigger mustache every time. 1.00

01:27:25.400 The Illegal Truth says...

01:27:26.900 The local Church of England, where I live, are appealing on Facebook for Christmas presents

01:27:29.940 for Muslims being processed at the local army camp, where four of them are a few weeks ago, 0.65

01:27:34.620 were involved in the rape of a child. 0.90

01:27:36.380 You can't make this up. 0.80

01:27:37.440 We're living in Clamod.

01:27:38.520 Yeah, I mean, point out, well, they don't celebrate Christmas.

01:27:41.600 So...

01:27:42.040 Yeah.

01:27:42.440 And I saw the other day someone posting, why do we want Muslims in Britain, blah, blah, blah.

01:27:46.980 And the dunk, the Uber dunk that this Muslim came back with was like, so you can get taxis 1.00

01:27:53.560 and Deliveroo on Christmas Day.

01:27:55.200 I don't want those.

01:27:56.080 Okay.

01:27:56.480 Right.

01:27:56.940 Yeah, exactly.

01:27:57.560 But we don't need taxis and Deliveroo on Christmas Day.

01:27:59.900 You should be spending Christmas Day at your family's home eating turkey.

01:28:04.600 First things first, yeah.

01:28:05.740 One, you shouldn't be getting these things on Christmas Day anyway.

01:28:08.140 Second, we've got plenty of atheists, right, who are prepared to work on Christmas Day. 0.99

01:28:11.680 Shut up. 1.00

01:28:12.360 Yes. 0.99

01:28:13.440 Thirdly, that's no excuse.

01:28:15.480 No, I do remember in the 90s, you couldn't get anything on Christmas Day.

01:28:18.500 All the shops were closed, apart from the corner shops.

01:28:20.860 Until like the 80s, Sundays, shops had to be closed.

01:28:24.280 Yeah.

01:28:25.100 I think it was the mid-80s where they allowed shops to become open on Sundays.

01:28:29.180 If you remember really far back, shops used to close on Wednesday afternoon.

01:28:33.000 They probably did.

01:28:33.620 I don't remember that far back.

01:28:34.820 Old.

01:28:35.220 Old.

01:28:36.040 Yeah, but the point is, better civilization, but you can get your Christmas Deliveroo by

01:28:41.900 Abdul.

01:28:42.080 My little hat keeps slipping off.

01:28:42.820 What you need to order is whatever you need to put onto little hats in order to make them

01:28:48.260 stick.

01:28:48.800 I'm pretty sure there is a product that does that.

01:28:50.440 I mean, there must be, but I'm not aware of it.

01:28:52.260 I'll ask my friend I got this off.

01:28:54.700 Just it says, Germany is a country that has been mass brainwashed into needing to attend 0.99

01:28:58.020 for the past.

01:28:58.740 Well, yeah.

01:29:01.000 Well, it's what people are trying to set us up for with the international slave trade. 0.95

01:29:04.540 Yes, that is true.

01:29:06.080 And this is why we literally have to just ignore it.

01:29:10.400 And Matthew says, should men take the risk that their life will be ruined for protecting

01:29:15.380 people against an attacker in an area that might charge them as a vigilante?

01:29:19.040 Well, obviously, that's why people don't want to do it.

01:29:21.500 But the Daniel Penny case is at least fairly heartening in regard that, and this happened

01:29:27.100 a few years ago with the home invasion in Britain, where essentially the government was trying

01:29:31.080 to make it illegal to defend your own house.

01:29:33.460 And everyone got pissed.

01:29:34.920 Oh, yeah.

01:29:35.320 Because this old guy had stabbed this one.

01:29:37.760 I remember this case, yeah.

01:29:39.280 He died.

01:29:40.200 And the government was like, well, you're under arrest.

01:29:41.880 And everyone's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

01:29:43.740 No.

01:29:44.200 And thankfully, he got let off and everything was fine.

01:29:46.340 Screwdriver?

01:29:46.780 I thought it was the farmer with a shotgun.

01:29:49.360 No, that was a different one.

01:29:50.380 That was a teenager who was trying to break into his barn.

01:29:54.240 So he was like, nobody breaks into my barn.

01:29:56.500 Bang.

01:29:57.380 Yeah.

01:29:57.520 And the parents were like, oh, they killed my son.

01:30:01.120 Well, why was he breaking into someone's barn?

01:30:03.960 But the guy was literally like, it was an old guy who was in his 60s.

01:30:07.800 And essentially, this guy attacked him with a screwdriver.

01:30:10.280 He managed to get the screwdriver and stab him with it.

01:30:12.160 And the guy died.

01:30:13.020 And it's like, OK, well, then, boo-hoo.

01:30:14.780 What the hell are you doing in this house, attacking the screwdriver?

01:30:18.020 But anyway, so the point being, hopefully, Daniel Penny is an example to brave men of goodwill.

01:30:24.120 He is an example anyway.

01:30:25.640 Well, yeah, but there will be a precedent going forward that if you are in defense of people

01:30:31.920 and you save some people from a dangerous lunatic, you will not actually go to jail over that.

01:30:38.420 And I think that's about all we've got time for, unless you want to carry on.

01:30:41.880 No, no, we've got to stop.

01:30:42.880 I found out how you make the little hat stay in place.

01:30:45.100 Thank you.

01:30:45.500 It's apparently its head.

01:30:46.320 Thank you very much.

01:30:47.440 I'll bear that in mind.

01:30:48.860 I looked it up for you.

01:30:50.940 Thank you very much.

01:30:52.140 And thank you all very much for spending the year with us, for helping to support us and

01:30:59.120 carrying on watching.

01:31:00.360 We really appreciate every single one of you out there.

01:31:02.820 So we hope you, from the bottom of our hearts, have a very, very Merry Christmas and a Happy

01:31:07.320 New Year.

01:31:07.980 We'll see you in January.

01:31:09.280 Take care.

01:31:09.700 We'll see you in the next one.

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - December 23, 2024

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1069

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