The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1069
Episode Stats
Length
1 hour and 31 minutes
Words per Minute
186.73087
Hate Speech Sentences
112
Summary
A car ploughed into a crowded Christmas market in Magdeburg, Germany, killing 5 people and injuring 200. The driver, Taleb Al-Abdolmosen, has been arrested and is being questioned by police.
Transcript
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Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters episode 1069. Nice. And it's today the 23rd of December 2024 and today is the last live podcast of the year. How are we all feeling gentlemen?
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Well I'm getting over a gastric flu so I am feeling considerably slimmer than I was about a week ago. But don't worry it's all physics more out than in.
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Sadly though the news that we have to present to you all today is less than festive and jolly and merry and other synonyms.
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In fact it's going to be talking about the horrifying Christmas market attack that happened at Magdeburg on Friday.
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How anti-racism provides cover for the kinds of perpetrators of such attacks.
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And we're going to finish off with a very jolly story about the new New York fairy tale about somebody being set on fire.
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You know like we wanted to do like a nice jolly Christmas themed podcast but events happened.
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And unfortunately we talk about these things on the podcast so we have no choice.
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I got it from a friend who charged a strange interest rate on it but it's all right.
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Okay so something very terrible happened recently in Magdeburg.
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There was a Christmas market and everyone was enjoying their last minute Christmas shopping at this market.
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And suddenly a car plowed through it at high speed.
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So far to this point killing five people and injuring 200.
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But it's one of those things where unfortunately this is not something we don't expect anymore.
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Which is why we have various bollards I suppose we call them.
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The bollards of pillars of Islam I think they're called.
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Yeah but in Germany they've decided to kind of beautify them.
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Turn them into like Christmas tree shaped concrete bollards.
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Well and the ones where they don't they I think they spray paint dank Merkle on them.
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The point is this is this has been a perennial feature of Christmas in the West for quite a while.
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Now since the advent of unfettered immigration.
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And so it's just something we have to deal with.
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And so when I heard about this the other day I wasn't actually terribly surprised that this had happened.
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Of course disappointed and shocked but this isn't the first time and I doubt it's going to be the last unfortunately.
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Anyway so as the BBC tell us the attacker was a man accused called Taleb Al-Abdolmosen.
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He was a Saudi Arabian immigrant to Germany and he had conducted the attack at about seven o'clock at the time and it just driven.
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It somehow got past the bollards and driven just straight into the thing.
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I'm not going to play the video obviously because it's awful.
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I couldn't get to sleep until about four o'clock in the morning after I saw this.
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At first people thought it was an accident and then of course it turned out not to be.
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So Al-Abdolmosen arrived in Germany in 2006 and in 2016 he was recognised as a refugee.
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He ran a website that was aimed to help other former Muslims flee persecution in their Gulf homelands.
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And he was even interviewed by the BBC about this in 2016.
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The poster boy to the extent where the BBC wanted to feature him.
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And the German interior minister Nancy Faeser told reporters that it was clear that he held Islamophobic views.
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And again I think it's important to highlight here yes Islamophobic views, ex-Muslim, wearing a fedora, what many would like to claim to be integrated but whether or not integrated is an accurate term here.
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Well I don't want to go too hard on that angle because we...
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That's certainly how I see it because the first thing he does is like oh well I need to immediately start a foundation to get more people like me here.
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Because I've moved to a foreign country that's allowed me in, given me refuge, what's the first thing I'm going to do to pay them back?
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Well I need to make sure that I'm surrounded by as many people like myself as possible.
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Because there are other things that are happening.
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Like he's definitely got sympathies for his, you know, people like him, you know, other Arabs who are presumably, assuming he is honest in his anti-Islamic stance.
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Now I just want to be clear, there are lots of people saying well this isn't really true.
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And he's got, he had a long Twitter history of being integrated into the kind of ex-Muslim or anti-religion community.
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I don't know if the Takiyah thing is right or not, but the point is, is that he found a system that worked, which is claim that I've got an ex-Muslim, therefore they're an apostate in Saudi Arabia, therefore you have to let them in.
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And the thing is, I'm not saying that there aren't, there isn't a sort of, from the liberal perspective, a morally legitimate cause there, right?
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There are lots of people who are ex-Muslims in Muslim countries who want to leave, who do actually like the West, and who do actually think well of it.
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Who do think well of the West and don't want us to destroy ourselves, and who are, I guess, as the German Interior Minister would describe them, Islamophobic.
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But who aren't necessarily saying we have to bring in as many people.
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I mean, that's what he did with his foundation.
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The issue, I think, is the, that I take most objection to, is the instrumentalization of Germany and the German people in this guy's worldview.
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Because it was clear that he viewed being in Germany and what he could get out of Germany as a means to an end, rather than as an end in itself, which I think is really the problem.
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But the thing is, this then opens up questions of, well, how could you ever know whether that's someone's plan or not?
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And this leads us down various other rabbit holes that we'll get to in a bit.
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So anyway, it became apparent that because he was an ex-Muslim Islamophobe, he was a big fan of the AFD.
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They do, in this political article, point out that he supports the AFD, and he was a supporter of Tommy Robinson, he's a supporter of Gert Wilders, he's a supporter of Elon Musk.
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He is essentially what we would describe as centre-right in the classical liberal mould, as far as we can tell.
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And the left seemed to have really embraced this angle of it, which is an odd line to take, to say that because he supported an anti-immigration party, therefore, when an immigrant commits mass murder, that invalidates the argument against mass immigration.
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Yeah. And also, OK, he's so Islamic, he's so anti-Islamic, but he attacks a Christian Christmas market.
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It's a strange thing to do. And that's why there's been a cloud of mystery around his motivations.
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With this whole supporting of the AFD, it says, allegedly, I've not seen any, because I know he's got a very well-documented Twitter account that people have been combing through.
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I've seen his responses to Gert Wilders, I've seen some of the other things. What is the evidence that he supported the AFD?
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So, same with Tommy Robinson and Elon Musk, a lot of it's coming from his Twitter history.
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And apparently, he wanted to stop the spread of Islam. And, of course, this means he's far right.
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So, he is a self-proclaimed leftist. Again, if we can just play this.
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And I'm saying this as a leftist. I'm not on the right.
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And what I discovered, as a leftist, is that leftists are the worst criminals on this planet.
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The point being, though, he is precisely the sort of classical liberal...
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I wouldn't call this classical liberal. What I would call this is, I left the left, neocon.
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If you're going to attach any sort of ideological label to it, it's...
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I mean, even the rampant anti-Islam perspective is very, very...
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Not necessarily Christopher Hitchens, although he was also a neocon.
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But it is all part and parcel of the neocon world for you in Outlook.
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Sure, but the problem of calling me a neocon is it kind of implies that he wants liberal imperialism.
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And I'm not sure that he wanted a liberal imperialism. Maybe he did.
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But the point being, this sort of like the new atheist centre-rights coalition of people who are often made up of ex-Muslims
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or hardcore sort of classical liberals who are very much against that sort of worldview anyway.
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This sort of, oh, I thought I was left-wing, but the left left me perspective.
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I still can't rule out the fact that he could just be lying about everything.
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And so he claims to be a self-proclaimed leftist or liberal, whatever mold we want to call it,
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Because, as he says here, the Western left did not welcome migrants because of tolerance,
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I wanted them to be tolerant because they promised toleration.
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They actually just want to destroy Europe with Islam.
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I mean, as someone who claims to be an ex-Muslim, obviously not something that they're like.
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And it's a very similar message to Ayaan Hirsi Ali.
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I'm not saying that anyone who also shares any opinions with him is also a terrorist or potential terrorist.
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And, in fact, I think the issue is that maybe this guy didn't actually really imbibe the beliefs that he claims to have believed.
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Because, I mean, at least if there's one thing about the center-rights liberal coalition that is to their benefit,
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is they have a commitment to democracy and they don't favor terrorism.
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So it's not like we can say, well, this is clearly a case of his classical liberal center-right beliefs,
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because, obviously, that's not what they believe.
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Well, the point that I'm taking from this is, right, there's a dichotomy that they're trying to sell us,
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which is that there's the foreigner who believes in radical Islam,
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foreigner who doesn't believe in radical Islam, and, in fact, opposes it vehemently.
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We'll get to this, because I think there is actually an explanation for it.
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I think he gives us the explanation himself, actually.
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But, anyway, so he wants to stop the spread of Islam.
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A series of tweets explaining why I've written my bio that I love Israel.
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Now, there are conflicting tweets that are taken out of context that I don't know the context for,
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Because the ex-Muslim community, of course, don't want to claim them as one of their own.
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And so you've got a very long thread like this one,
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where people are pointing out, well, he was saying contradictory things.
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The translation is, no, we will return Hamas to Gaza,
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and if you like it, we can bring Hamas to your home so you can taste it.
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Again, I'm not sure, because, I mean, a lot of this is people whose second or third language is English,
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going, and a lot of this is also being taken through Google Translate,
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But there are lots of people saying, well, look, this was just taqiyya.
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So, taqiyya is an extra-Quranical Islamic doctrine
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that gives Muslims permission to lie in the service of Islam.
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Now, the problem with applying that to anything
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is that you're essentially trying to divine someone's innermost thoughts
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without a falsifiable standard to work against.
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Well, yes or no, depending on how I feel about it.
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Well, however broadly the person who wants to apply it wants to define it.
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And so we end up with a concept that isn't actually terribly useful
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and doesn't allow us to narrow down on any one particular thing.
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Well, politicians with 30-year careers manage to lie for the entire 30 years.
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They do, but do you then set up an NGO to bring ex-Muslims out of Saudi Arabia?
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I just want to focus on the ideological bit for a minute.
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It's not that I think there's no legitimate allegation there.
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It's just we can never really come to a solid conclusion on it, right?
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Yeah, I mean, ultimately you have to judge him by his actions and his actions were
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getting more people like him into the country and killing people.
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But the thing is you can understand why the ex-Muslim community don't want
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I mean, they say, as a representative here, they say he's a radical Shia Muslim,
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as evidenced by his name in numerous tweets and chat leaks circulating on Arabic-speaking
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platforms like X, and he had plans to carry out mass killings.
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So I don't know is the point I'm going to arrive at.
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And there is a lot of conflicting reports of what his belief system may have been.
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But he did, however, make lots of statements about, well, being a terrorist in some way.
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He was having a problem with the German justice system, because the German justice system was
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not cooperating in the way that he wanted in order to bring ex-Muslims, or purportedly
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And so he was frustrated with this, and he said things like,
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It's very likely that I will die this year in order to bring justice.
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I will assure you that if Germany wants war, we will fight it.
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If Germany wants to kill us, we will slaughter them, die, or go to prison with pride.
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And this goes to show how much of a choice this is, because if you're a German, well,
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You just post anything with a rightish tinge about Germany on Twitter, and it will pop
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up, oh, this post has been disabled under German law, and then they come and look at
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you, and if you're on the right, they come and raid your house.
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If they applied a fraction of that energy the other way, this never would have happened.
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But the point, I think, is that he's someone who has not got a Western mindset, even if
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So even if he says, yes, I'm an atheist ex-Muslim who believes in tolerance and all the promises
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of liberalism, when they're betrayed, the Western mindset is not, I'm going to go to war with
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the German people and kill as many of them as I can, right?
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Well, this is a bit like Peter Hitchens' take on this, which is, apparently they found
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some reference to him doing weed, and Peter Hitchens was immediately like, see, it's
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This is the one and only important factor in this entire case, yes.
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It's like lots of Westerners do weed, and they don't do this.
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So anyway, the Saudis had been warning about this guy for quite a long time, but the German
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authorities didn't take the Saudis very seriously because, of course, they're not liberals,
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The Saudis basically essentially said, look, he's a dangerous person, and he's been making
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The chair of the Association of Former Muslims in Germany said, he's no stranger to us, he's
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She labeled him a psychopath who adhere to ultra-right conspiracy ideologies, which is very interesting.
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But anyway, the Saudis put in an extradition request to him, because he is apparently wanted
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for rape in Saudi Arabia, and human trafficking.
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That's probably what won him the refugee status.
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Well, if we send you back, you'll probably get executed.
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Well, no, it's because the extradition request is a question of human rights, right?
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Like, because the ex-Muslim will say, well, they're going to persecute me for being an
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atheist, which is, of course, a protective belief characteristic in the West, but not
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in Islam or an Islamic country like Saudi Arabia.
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And so the Saudi Arabians are like, well, hang on a second, he is a rapist, and actually
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And so Germany didn't extradite him, where he was just left to continue being mental.
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And so this is just a fascinating look at the way that these conflicting belief systems
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ended up creating the conditions for this to happen.
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But anyway, so there are reports of him saying Allah Akbar when he's on the ground.
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I'm not going to play the clip, because it's just garbled nonsense, basically.
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Lots of German speakers that I know have been like, no.
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So he's saying something like, alez kar, which means all clear in German, or like, I understand
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So I don't think he's yelling Allah Akbar, but lots of people wanted him to believe
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that he is, because, of course, that would imply, oh, he's a Shia radical who is actually
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But what I think has happened is actually something that he posted here.
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Right now, this is an interesting thread from him, where he says, many fellow Saudi
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Muslims, Saudi ex-Muslims, ask me, do we announce leaving Islam on Twitter to get an asylum in
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And he says, Muhammad has destroyed the capacity of reasoning in Muslims.
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Even if a Muslim turns atheist, he might still fail in extracting principles.
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Now, that, I think, is a fascinating statement, because what he's saying there is, essentially,
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there is a worldview to being an atheist, right?
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And if you profess the ideology of atheism, okay, that's a rational and thin set of propositions
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However, as Taleb himself is showing us, okay, you may well be rationalistically an atheist
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who's doctrinally committed to atheism rather than Islam, but the worldview that underpins
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this is one where, if I don't get my way, I'm going to go to war with the German state
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And so the worldview is still a Middle Eastern worldview.
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The way that you connect concepts remains, the framework and scaffolding remains Islamic.
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Many ex-Muslims do this, and he himself is one of them.
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So it's like, right, okay, that's very interesting.
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Anyway, the point being, though, he's far right, obviously.
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The people opposing immigration are far right, and, of course, the people protesting the massacre
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And so it's like, right, okay, everything's just far right at this point.
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But yeah, no, there were lots of people protesting in Magdeburg, saying, well, this is terrible.
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And, of course, there were various immigrants and leftists out protesting in favor of immigration.
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What is going on in the head of a German person who watches nine-year-olds and families being
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mowed down and then goes out and protests in favor of more of it?
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There will be some, and I don't know, you are right, I don't know what kind of argument
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they could present when the immigrant who did it literally seems to be the model migrant
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who is trying to de-Islamize himself and maintain a de-Islamized Europe by his own statements.
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Obviously, this is all going off of his own statements, if we believe those.
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And then is also a doctor, so he's contributing to the economy, he's contributing to public services,
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How they can then turn around and spin that into being a pro-immigration success story
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when he still ended up committing an atrocity that murdered people.
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I do not know, other than the fact that the Germans, for so long, have been completely
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I mean, there are so many strange events in this whole thing.
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It's like, okay, if you're an anti-Islam activist who is concerned that the left are
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Islamizing Germany, and you're frustrated with the German state for not getting enough
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atheists out of Saudi Arabia, why attack a Christmas market?
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If, for some reason, you have to attack someone, why are you ramming down a bunch of what are
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Well, I think because in the ultimate calculation, it's still us versus them, and he sees the Germans
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Germany chases female Saudi asylum seekers inside and outside Germany to destroy their
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He's still obsessed only with him and his own, and he just wants them into Germany because
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Germany is nothing but a zone for him and his people to be safe in, and he sees them
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He has, like I said at the beginning, instrumentalized Germany into a tool that he can use, and if
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it doesn't fulfill the function that he wants, well, he's failed to extract the principles
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Slaughtering women and children isn't a good thing, actually.
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Yeah, that's a terrible thing, actually, and not something that we do in the West.
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But I very much enjoy Noah Smith's response here.
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I think European liberals have better come up with a solution to this fast, because currently
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the rightists seem to be the only ones proposing solutions to this.
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You know, pro-Palestinians, so Western leftists and immigrants chanting Intifada through, again,
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the German city centers that are covered in Christmas lights.
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European liberals already have come up with a solution.
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It just happens to be on the right side of the current paradigm.
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But the entire current paradigm is massively left.
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It's the center-right of, you know, the left-wing's right flank.
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But I'm telling you, the non-liberal solution will not look anything like the AFD, and that's
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what they're going to get if they don't embrace it.
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But the problem that the European liberal, as in the left-wing liberal that she's appealing
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to here, has is that, well, these are legal German citizens.
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They are rights-bearing people as much as anyone else.
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As far as the average liberal is concerned, you can have been in Germany for a thousand
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years, or literally one day, and you have the exact same people right.
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Because they're all propositional nation people.
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And so what is the distinction between these people chanting Intifada and the average German?
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And therefore, they've got the right to protest.
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They've got the right to walk through a German town center, chanting Intifada now, and showing
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no respect to the dignity of the German people in the wake of an atrocious terror attack done
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And so they better come up with a solution fast.
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And essentially, you've got the German, the AFD, who are essentially, you know, like liberal
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They're like, no, there is something important about the dignity of the people.
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Because otherwise, why are we doing any of the things that we do, et cetera, et cetera, right?
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And so one of the things that people are doing is saying, right, this guy supported the AFD.
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This is far-right terrorism against the far-right for some reason.
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And therefore, the guy liked Elon, the guy liked Tommy, the guy liked all these things.
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And thankfully, Elon's just literally just afterwards.
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Elon just tweeted out, yeah, only the AFD can save Germany.
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So it's better than anything else they've got, I would say.
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Because like I said, I think it's part of the left-wing paradigm.
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But it's worth a try before you move on to the next thing.
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It's the next thing towards the right, which is fine.
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Let's get what we can done with, you know, the sort of reform AFD MAGA types.
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If they can't, which I don't have to be optimistic.
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But if they can't, then okay, well, we have to think of something else then, don't we?
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But the point is, and what I like about this position that Elon's taken is, I don't respect their opinion.
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He's like, they're all, they've been on his back for the past two days, or since it was done, whatever it was, saying, look, you've got to disavow the AFD, basically.
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It's just the end of it, because, I mean, look at the things that he's responding to.
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Anyway, so like I said, it's a very confused mix of things at the moment, and there's no good answer to any of it.
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But there are simple answers, and like you say, people are going to come to those simple answers, and especially if the liberals can't do anything about it, which I don't think they can, they're going to come to them sooner rather than later.
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All right, we've got some rumble rants, if you'd like to go through them.
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Peter says, how convenient this terrorist supports everything that Germany is trying to ban.
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Smells like planned intelligence services operation.
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Maybe, but it was a long time in the making, and the, I don't, I don't buy it.
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Because he was tweeting and involved in these things for over a decade.
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Whether or not it was a planned intelligence services operation, I think part of the demoralization campaign is the knowledge that if you just let enough of these people in, this will happen pretty regularly.
00:27:55.040
So I do think this is all part and parcel of what the elites plan.
00:27:59.860
At the very minimum, you can say on the intelligence point, is that, you know, the point I made earlier,
00:28:06.000
if they applied the same focus on Islam as they do to write, they would have caught him, because the intelligence...
00:28:11.860
He was literally posting, oh, I'm probably going to end up killing people.
00:28:14.820
The German intelligence services take out people with mildly right-wing views all the time.
00:28:20.340
Oh yeah, and they're crazy as well, like raiding people's houses.
00:28:25.040
And taking everything they own and stuff like that, and they're charging.
00:28:28.080
The German intelligence services are way worse than the British ones.
00:28:31.360
And we lock up thousands of people a year for social media posts.
00:28:34.520
Ironically enough, they will, if you own particular books in Germany, they will raid your house and they will, like, pulp the books.
00:28:45.520
Unlike with Axel Rudd-Kabana, who's allowed to have ISIS training manuals or whatever.
00:28:53.220
Whatever he believed, his actions, excuse me, aren't an ad for more immigration from Muslim countries.
00:28:58.440
No, and I think that his point is correct, that, like, you know, they didn't extract the principles.
00:29:19.020
Like, there's no sentimental attachment to Germany as Germany in and of itself, you know, because, like, if I went, like, you know, I love Greece, man.
00:29:31.640
And if I went to Greece and for some reason the Greek state was giving me jib and I wasn't getting what I wanted from the Greek state, I would never think, right, I need to take this out on the Greek people, right?
00:29:43.720
I mean, let's just say I was going to become the world's biggest terrorist in Greece.
00:29:46.620
I'd attack a government building or something, right?
00:29:49.560
But it probably wouldn't occur to you to put a burden on the Greek state in the first place and therefore you wouldn't have that problem.
00:29:56.620
Let's assume that I had a real problem with the way the Greek state was treated.
00:30:02.720
But I would target my ire towards the institutions of the state and not just a random group of gathering of Greek people.
00:30:14.780
Every Greek I've met has been really lovely, you know?
00:30:17.780
And I really like the atmosphere and the sunshine and stuff like this.
00:30:22.620
I would never want to do damage to the place, even if the government was being insufferable, but he just didn't hold that position, right?
00:30:30.420
And so anyway, Russian says, we'll return Hamas to Gaza and if you like it, we can bring Hamas to your home so you can taste it.
00:30:37.640
But yeah, I don't know what the context is of it.
00:30:41.600
And again, there are lots of contradictory things.
00:30:43.420
One of them is like, the religion of God is Judaism.
00:30:48.180
I mean, that first statement does have a touch of Zionism about it.
00:30:54.420
Like, you know, Ireland can take loads of Palestinian refugees, etc.
00:31:00.080
Dragon Lady Chris says, before I step out, I just want to wish a very Merry Christmas to everyone at Lodz Eaters and everyone in the chat.
00:31:06.680
Well, thank you very much and hope you have a great Christmas and a very Happy New Year.
00:31:13.360
Right, let's talk about how anti-racism has become deranged.
00:31:16.700
Not the title I originally wanted, but it's a title that I was allowed.
00:31:19.520
So, we're referring here to an article from Mitteldeutsche Zeitung, which I think is about right.
00:31:27.880
Oh, we've actually managed to get it translated brilliantly.
00:31:32.760
So, no, I'm actually going to quote the salient bits from this post of Eugypius because my computer wouldn't translate it.
00:31:41.840
But anyway, I'm going to read out the tweet version of this because it gets the key points rather well.
00:31:47.220
So, fascinating report from Mitteldeutsche Zeitung about Talib al-Abmoshan's colleague's impression of him.
00:31:56.940
So, apparently, the guys who worked with this doctor called him Dr. Google.
00:32:02.040
Amongst staff at Benberg Forensic Psychiatric Hospital, doubts have grown since the 50-year-old Saudi began working there in March 2020.
00:32:14.640
He got the nickname because he had to look up every diagnosis on the internet.
00:32:21.640
The man, who, as a specialist in psychiatry and psychotherapy, heads three therapy wards, is said to have done his rounds always alone.
00:32:30.760
He avoids talking to staff as much as possible.
00:32:37.240
Do you remember when there was that big thing on, I think it was TikTok and other social media,
00:32:41.760
and loads of people were getting angry at Steve Laws for pointing out that loads of African immigrants were coming over on fake degrees.
00:32:49.580
And filling in degrees for their family members as well, who then got jobs at the NHS.
00:32:54.960
Oh, why don't you become a consultant at a hospital then?
00:32:57.880
You know, you've got a piece of paper that says...
00:33:02.240
The word degree must be the same in there than it is here.
00:33:06.800
Well, they spelt degree wrong, but, I mean, all the same.
00:33:11.980
His German was apparently terrible, and patients could hardly understand him.
00:33:16.880
When new patients asked him how they could quickly get off their drug addiction,
00:33:29.580
I mean, alcohol's not terribly bad, but, like...
00:33:32.480
I don't know the full context of that one, but that was apparently his stock phrase.
00:33:38.220
I don't know, this sounds a little bit far-fetched to me,
00:33:41.040
just because we have at least one clip of him speaking that we saw in the previous...
00:33:57.720
When Al-Abmoshun started working at the clinic in Birnberg,
00:34:04.640
he also practised in the neighbouring Sal's specialist clinic,
00:34:09.240
but his privileges were suspected because he repeatedly prescribed medication
00:34:15.960
Staff at his own hospital repeatedly complained of his incompetence,
00:34:24.920
Starting in May of this year, he began to be absent for weeks at a time.
00:34:30.640
We all thought that our suspicions were correct and he had left because he was not a doctor,
00:34:35.240
until suddenly he reappeared, an employee said.
00:34:38.160
We did not fire him at this point for some reason.
00:34:40.920
It would not be the first case of a doctor from Birnberg's Forensic Psychiatry Hospital
00:34:52.880
Well, yes, but it happens in this particular clinic that he was working in.
00:34:56.340
Some would argue psychiatry is a fake field in the first place.
00:35:03.520
certainly a lot of people thought that he was faking it,
00:35:05.500
but they refused to consider it, obviously, because he is a bit brown.
00:35:15.240
His latest sick leave was scheduled to expire on the 20th of December,
00:35:22.160
So how was it that he was able to get away with this completely absurd situation
00:35:29.840
where he didn't know what the hell he was talking about,
00:35:32.060
he could barely speak German, he had to look everything up on the internet?
00:35:54.860
And I can tell you what the thought process here,
00:35:59.300
because I have managed to get hold of a copy of the Protocols of the Elders of Boomer.
00:36:07.040
And if you look at the top protocol, it does say, do not be racist.
00:36:11.840
This was all a part of the Boomer World domination plan.
00:36:17.060
Some people say that this is fake, and I don't know if it is,
00:36:23.640
Some argue that it was a piece of fiction written in the 19th century
00:36:28.060
that was then later propagandised as being real.
00:36:32.880
It does summarise the Boomer worldview quite well, though, doesn't it?
00:36:37.140
I notice there's some repetition as the list goes on.
00:36:40.960
Now, I want to be very clear to our lovely audience watching
00:36:44.900
that I am not necessarily accusing all of you who were of a certain age of being boomers,
00:36:54.620
Look, I'm saying you can be born in 1955 and not be a boomer with a hard R.
00:37:08.280
But this broadly is the worldview of the boomer.
00:37:11.020
And by far and away, the most important thing is do not be racist.
00:37:14.400
But the thing is that has been carried over to the point where this guy in Germany
00:37:18.380
can be obviously incompetent, very obviously incompetent,
00:37:23.020
and yet still get a doctor's salary, which is enough to buy a powerful BMW car
00:37:31.280
Because, of course, the edict of don't be racist has become warped to the point
00:37:36.300
where you have to be actively anti-racist to the point where competence doesn't matter.
00:37:41.780
Now, my argument is that an appropriate level of racism is quite acceptable.
00:37:52.460
Are we not just arguing, if he crap at the job, don't let him off because he's brown?
00:37:57.440
Well, okay, so is there a clip of Jordan Peterson yelling merit forcibly
00:38:02.600
that you might actually be gesturing to right now?
00:38:05.480
Weirdly enough, actually, Jordan Peterson kind of has a point on that one.
00:38:12.060
I'll give you level one is just not being retardedly anti-racist.
00:38:20.520
Like anything that we would have described as called racism, anyway.
00:38:30.540
So scenario is minimum level racism is, oh, look, a foreign doctor has turned up.
00:38:36.580
Should we have a quick chat with him and see if he knows roughly what he's on about?
00:38:46.800
I don't know if we should concede that that's racism.
00:38:49.520
The current paradigm is, you want to check this man's credentials?
00:38:58.840
That is 100% racism under the current system, of checking out foreign doctors to see if
00:39:09.060
But I don't know if we should concede that that's what racism is.
00:39:16.920
But, you know, all you need to do is you need to go to these new doctors and you say, you
00:39:22.920
know, if a patient presents with, you know, symptoms A and B, you know, what would you
00:39:31.480
Well, if he gives you some sort of sensible answer, then you go, okay, yeah, fair enough.
00:39:36.380
You know, but if he says, you know, alcohol good, honey bad, then you think, oh, hang on
00:39:41.780
We might need to check whether that degree that he presented us with a misspelt degree
00:39:48.280
Giving them a basic test doesn't seem like very much...
00:39:52.860
It just doesn't feel like a commitment to racism.
00:39:59.060
In America, certain tests are not applied to certain groups.
00:40:02.900
Because there is a knowledge that they will inevitably fail them on a mass scale.
00:40:12.920
Do we think that if there was a blonde-haired, blue-eyed German doctor who had to look everything
00:40:18.780
up on Google, did his rounds alone because he didn't want any staff seeing what he was
00:40:23.880
up to, could barely, you know, could barely speak German, it would be odd for a German,
00:40:26.840
but do you think that guy would be allowed to draw a doctor's salary as a consultant for
00:40:32.880
Dan, you're acting as if white privilege doesn't exist.
00:40:36.140
So that's the minimal level of racism, which I'm prepared to accept.
00:40:49.740
I mean, it does continue, but I only listed the first 25 points.
00:40:57.720
I mean, the next level of racism, which I'm going to call the South...
00:41:01.660
Because the South Koreans are wonderfully racist.
00:41:09.260
I mean, they just have the view that South Korea's at the top, and then you've got everybody
00:41:19.320
You can, as a Westerner, go and live and work in South Korea or Japan, but you better be
00:41:23.560
bloody good at whatever it is you're doing, otherwise they won't tolerate you.
00:41:27.000
And they'll make it very difficult for you to make the move in the first place.
00:41:42.380
Dan's not been reading through the Eugenic Society and Francis Galton or anything like
00:41:49.460
But even then, that's not the level of racism that Dan's going to right now.
00:41:53.040
And then the next level above that is just to say, if you're not X, then you shouldn't
00:41:56.780
It's like, if you're not German, then you shouldn't be in Germany.
00:42:00.840
Now, I'm not saying which level you should pick.
00:42:02.940
I'm just saying that we shouldn't be at level one anymore.
00:42:08.000
I suspect there are gradients between those two.
00:42:12.800
There are probably gradients of racism between those.
00:42:15.500
I could imagine several more levels on top, but okay.
00:42:21.760
Let's move on to the realism of the idea of a bit of...
00:42:38.940
So, he asked the question, for those who think this is a problem...
00:42:42.540
He's a terminal liberal, though, I have to say.
00:42:52.860
He wants liberalism to work, but he is also accepting of the fact that it has flaws.
00:43:00.780
Liberalism can work under a very specific set of circumstances.
00:43:06.100
Which, yeah, which, you know, like liberalism...
00:43:08.640
This video does not show the prevailing liberal circumstances.
00:43:15.520
The question that Peter asks is, for those who think this is a problem,
00:43:19.180
I'm curious as to what you think a realistic solution is.
00:43:26.200
Now, this is the point that a lot of people have got to at the moment, which is...
00:43:30.660
It's a father crowd marching through the Christmas market,
00:43:34.560
calling for whatever, you know, anti-German nonsense.
00:43:39.700
Well, a lot of people are focusing on the realistic,
00:43:46.080
And the point I make below is that mass deportation
00:43:48.300
and seriously must counter-Islamic policies and policing
00:43:56.180
France has given us loads of examples of this, actually.
00:44:11.760
This is like when you accuse me of not drinking milk.
00:44:14.460
I drink milk and eat pork, and I love these things.
00:44:18.600
But the point is, you know, there are some people who don't like pork.
00:44:37.040
Who is against a glass of milk and a bacon sandwich in this conversation?
00:44:46.100
I am feeling that maybe the libertarians might have a point where, like,
00:44:48.780
these things are good, but does the government have to force us to do it?
00:44:56.120
If it's so good, then what's the problem with the government forcing you to do it?
00:45:02.040
Well, so your citizenship should be a glass of milk and a ham sandwich?
00:45:06.600
That should be the first of many tests when you get to the border.
00:45:16.520
To be fair, if I went to a country and they gave me a bacon sandwich and a glass of milk,
00:45:23.820
Yeah, but the thing is, what if the Chinese start doing that?
00:45:27.480
Because the Chinese will eat anything, so we just end up with loads of Chinese immigrants.
00:45:33.380
Anyway, we have gone very slightly sideways from the point that I was looking to do it.
00:45:42.840
Snack-based immigration system is perfectly fine.
00:45:46.060
But no, my general point is that all of this stuff seems unimaginable and unrealistic until you start doing it.
00:45:55.120
Oh, well, I've just recorded a video for the Daily Channel today about how Sweden, France, Italy, Germany,
00:46:03.000
obviously the United States under Hohmann, and Canada are all taking massive restrictive policies to their immigration.
00:46:16.740
Well, they're step one of the little list that I've got coming up.
00:46:20.800
If you had gone back to 2018 and explained lockdowns to somebody in 2018, they would have thought it's, yeah, truly absurd.
00:46:29.500
These ideas are always unimaginable until they start happening, and then it's just imaginable.
00:46:46.800
And the only question is making the elites want it.
00:46:49.660
And that's a combination of either some circulation of the elites, but actually the existing elites will also do it the moment it's in their interest.
00:46:59.600
I mean, Keir Starmer declared that Open Borders was an experiment that was inflicted on us by the Conservatives.
00:47:07.220
But the point is, I think he will definitely, I mean, all of his administration are literally, I mean, he went over to meet Maloney.
00:47:15.740
Like, and say, oh, I'm going to take all your advice on how to just essentially get rid of all these illegals.
00:47:21.080
And then there are many more steps to go from that.
00:47:23.880
But the point is, we're on the right trajectory.
00:47:28.200
I mean, even Justin Trudeau was like, we're going to have a pause on immigration.
00:47:31.800
And who would have thought it would be like Keir Starmer and Justin Trudeau?
00:47:39.300
And every argument you can put against it, I'm just saying, if you change the incentive structures, like the one that I always hear is the human rights lawyers.
00:47:46.700
If you change the incentives for how it operates, the human rights lawyers will fall in line.
00:47:52.160
So what you could do is you could just put in place a framework for doing remigration fairly.
00:47:59.000
And then they spend all of their time making sure that their clients are remigrated appropriately and fairly.
00:48:05.400
And then they don't get paid until the client has been deported.
00:48:16.860
And they'll be replaced by those who are prepared to do it to get the money.
00:48:22.360
And 99.9% of them will just fall in line immediately as soon as the incentives change.
00:48:28.720
And you've actually talked about some of these.
00:48:31.000
And I just want to sort of make the point for the audience that as I go down this list,
00:48:34.240
if you imagine as soon as we achieve each point, how difficult will it be to achieve the next point on the list?
00:48:41.440
Now, you might not necessarily jump to the last one on the list.
00:48:44.440
But the point is, as you go through them, each incremental step is so small that it's not a problem.
00:48:53.240
Step two, instead of taking people from small boats to hotels to social housing to indefinite leave to remain,
00:49:04.420
If you came from France, you go back to France.
00:49:05.900
If you came from wherever, you go back to wherever.
00:49:07.040
And that happens in every non-Western country today.
00:49:11.740
And Keir Starmer did do that the very first moment he came in, didn't he?
00:49:16.540
Yeah, they turned one boat around, but that was it, one boat.
00:49:28.080
Step three, immediately deport the stock of illegal boat people that are already here.
00:49:31.600
You know, again, it's just not... nothing difficult about this.
00:49:34.760
Four, deport those granted indefinite leave to remain who have committed crimes.
00:49:39.480
Deport those who have been granted citizenship who committed crimes.
00:49:48.020
Just say, okay, no, these food standard safeties, they apply to everything.
00:49:52.160
Target HMRC to take a hard look at Turkish barbers, etc.
00:50:01.520
Again, all of this totally sensible and completely doable.
00:50:06.020
So, stop granting welfare and social housing to foreign nationals.
00:50:10.260
Stop granting welfare and social housing to non-citizens with indefinite leave to remain.
00:50:14.780
Stop granting welfare and social housing to anyone who wasn't born here.
00:50:18.860
Stop granting welfare and social housing to anyone born without British-born grandparents.
00:50:24.520
You know, the final thing I've got is stop train migration.
00:50:29.000
If you marry a Brit, your leave to remain lasts as long as the marriage and as soon as it ends, you have to go.
00:50:35.920
And everything on here is normal outside of the West.
00:50:40.160
And I haven't even gone particularly far with this.
00:50:49.000
I was worried I would get in trouble if I carried up to 0.50.
00:50:52.140
But the point is, you get that far and you'll turn the current inflow into an outflow.
00:50:57.280
I mean, this is literally what Sweden has done or is doing, the process of doing.
00:51:01.200
And they've got their immigration down to net negative at this point.
00:51:04.560
So, it's like, yeah, no, this is all completely possible.
00:51:06.560
The overpopulation crisis of the West is completely solvable.
00:51:19.980
And then if you keep it going for long enough and you keep going down the list, it will be a flow-out.
00:51:26.280
I mean, imagine how many will leave before they just get a letter saying,
00:51:32.320
At the end of the year, your social housing rights have been removed and you're not getting any welfare.
00:51:38.320
So, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands will go.
00:51:41.880
Because that's why so many of me are in the first place.
00:51:45.140
So, I wanted to leave one, you know, potentially positive note on this otherwise gloomy day.
00:51:56.380
The only thing I'd say is that when it starts happening, you're just going to be a bit disappointed.
00:52:01.700
And, you know, Harry and Bo are going to be doing segments like this is remigration in name only
00:52:06.800
and why have only 200,000 people left this year and you're going to be very annoyed.
00:52:12.800
It's just going to be a bit crap, but it is going to happen.
00:52:16.040
Listen, Dan, in any mass movement, there needs to be a right-most edge of radicals pulling everybody else to the right.
00:52:26.860
I would include you in that, to be perfectly honest.
00:52:33.060
But, anyway, with that, let's take a trip to New York.
00:52:38.860
Russian says, Dan, bring up the Germans shouting Germany for Germans during a football match.
00:52:44.980
And the stadium began chanting Nazis out in response.
00:52:49.640
And I tell you, man, like, everyone says this about Germans, but, like, it is genuinely true that, like, the Germans, this, this, everything that is pro-German is Nazi, is so close to the surface in the German mind.
00:53:09.140
Like, as soon as the Second World War ended, the Allied governments basically just went, okay, we've got to brainwash you into not being Nazis.
00:53:18.680
And then they went, hmm, this actually, this really works.
00:53:21.940
I wonder if the rest of Europe can get this treatment as well.
00:53:27.380
And every time I met a German, within, like, the first 10 minutes of knowing them, they would engineer into the conversation that they thought Nazis were bad.
00:53:36.320
No, I used to be, I used to live out in Germany.
00:53:38.360
When I was 16, we'd go out into the local town, go drinking.
00:53:41.380
And you'd sit there, you'd meet some German folks, you'd sit there and talk to them, because they don't speak English.
00:53:44.880
And literally, within the course of one pint, we're talking about World War II.
00:53:49.140
And I'm just like, I don't really know anything about World War II.
00:53:52.400
You know, I don't think you're responsible for it.
00:53:53.500
It happened, you know, 60 years ago, whatever it was.
00:54:02.060
Like, they just don't want you to think of them as being like those Germans.
00:54:07.000
But the thing is, none of us did think of them like those Germans.
00:54:09.720
Because, of course, they were all decent, good people, you know.
00:54:19.360
Like, I had a friend who started dating this girl when he was 13.
00:54:22.340
And he went to stay at a house, and they put them in the same bed at 13.
00:54:34.440
They were just normal West German liberals, and this was what they did.
00:54:40.660
And the Germans were insanely open about sex to an embarrassing degree.
00:54:44.240
I mean, that's always been them, even before the war.
00:54:48.920
But, you know, there is a conservative side to them.
00:54:51.280
But, like, the liberal Germans are insane about it.
00:54:57.900
No, but there's a reason that this stereotype exists.
00:55:01.980
Well, Johnny Logo, for $5, said just another tip before Xmas, lads.
00:55:10.320
And now let's finish off this merriment and festive cheer that we've had going.
00:55:20.480
Remember how there used to be, like, Christmas films set in New York?
00:55:23.800
Like, Home Alone 2, where it's presented as this big, amazing theme park of wonderment.
00:55:29.640
You can just run into Donald Trump, and he'll point you in the right direction if you're
00:55:37.740
Harry, you won't remember the 1990s when the world was just a better place.
00:55:44.900
But I do remember things being just slightly more peaceful.
00:55:47.540
So what kind of stories do you get in New York, New York, these days?
00:55:53.780
So most recently, of course, there was the rather happy news of Daniel Penny's acquittal,
00:56:00.520
which had all of the sorts of media and activist responses that you would expect, including
00:56:06.260
one of the BLM co-founders shouting that we need black vigilantes in the streets to do
00:56:16.440
But I saw Daniel Penny's acquittal as a good thing.
00:56:19.920
Sadly, him going to trial in the first place was a bad thing that has lots of negative repercussions
00:56:26.940
come off the back of it, because what was the intended message of taking a man who defended
00:56:37.960
Well, if you see something and you couldn't get involved, don't.
00:56:46.100
And the media have been trying to sort of carry on that messaging since then.
00:56:50.660
Here's just a few highlights of some headlines that I've seen very recently.
00:57:04.080
Not actually on December 30th, because that's in the future.
00:57:07.120
So this website's not very good, but saying that this is all...
00:57:12.340
This is all due to capitalism, because of course...
00:57:15.460
I might make a website like that where I'm just predicting headlines.
00:57:18.840
Jordan Neely, his, you know, the fact he was a mental case, the fact that he was on the
00:57:24.080
streets, was not a fault of, you know, terrible medical systems or anything like that.
00:57:28.260
Or even his own behaviour, his own actions, being in control of himself choosing to go down
00:57:34.020
No, it's because of the fact that we didn't have enough socialised medical care in New
00:57:38.600
York to make sure that he was safe, even though he actually was being held in an institution
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It kind of, in a way, is a failure of the social contract society.
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As in, look, you're going to have a system of enunciated rights and responsibilities.
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And one of those responsibilities is not intervene with an insane, drugged-up psycho on the
00:58:07.020
There are some states in which they do actually have that, right?
00:58:10.100
Not all states have this, but in some states you do have an obligation to step in.
00:58:13.700
And so, like, they impose the social contract and say, look, these are your rights.
00:58:18.420
Essentially, you don't have to ever deal with any of your fellow citizens.
00:58:23.580
And so some of them have to put it, no, you do have to intervene on these.
00:58:29.440
If essentially what you're trying to do now is reconstruct the traditional society in
00:58:32.680
which men would intervene, like Daniel Penny, which is why all of the traditional-minded
00:58:37.260
people, the right-wing people, are like, yeah, no, Daniel Penny's a hero, you psychos.
00:58:42.100
I mean, there is also the attitude among many communists that you're just not supposed to
00:58:53.160
The actual Justice Warrior refers to the clip a lot, which is one of the presenters, that
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Emma Vigland, saying that it was actually very privileged of anybody to assume that if
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you're taking the subway in New York, that you should be able to feel safe.
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Which is precisely why, when I went to New York in, like, 2018, and my wife's like,
00:59:20.800
And in New York, it is a privilege to feel safe these days.
00:59:25.140
So let's see some of the other headlines recently.
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Why Conservatives condemn Luigi Mangione and celebrate Daniel Penny.
00:59:31.860
Well, there's a simple reason for that, which is Luigi shot a man in the street.
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And Daniel Penny restrained a man who later overdosed.
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He was probably going to shoot someone in cold blood.
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I love the fact that that's confusing for a leftist.
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They are literally like, whoa, these Conservatives and their crazy worldviews of protecting innocents
01:00:05.400
There's also another question that all of this brings up, which is, has anybody thought
01:00:20.660
As you go through, it becomes clearer and clearer that it's trying to make the case that
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Alvin Bragg is being unfairly targeted, despite the fact that he brought the case, which should
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And evil right-wingers are criticising Alvin Bragg for doing things like, as soon as he
01:00:40.460
assumed the position, saying that New York police officers shouldn't jail people for
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anything less than, say, murder, robbery of a certain amount of money.
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They shouldn't... just don't deal with most crime that affects people on a day-to-day basis.
01:00:55.060
I mean, is Alvin Bragg's goal to turn New York into Gotham City or something?
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But New York Times wants you to know that this is actually... this was a real big persecution
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He should just have free reign to take whoever he wants to court for defending innocent people.
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Daniel Penny's acquittal reveals double standard about white vigilante crime.
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Because, well, the double standard is that he should have just let Jordan Neely abuse
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Because we've got this picture of him from, like, 13 years ago pretending to be Michael Jackson.
01:01:41.540
In a long-standard pattern in the US, white killers are celebrated and black victims are
01:01:48.060
So, basically, you just flip it around and then it all makes sense.
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I mean, he had just been released from prison in late 2023 for abusing... well, sorry, late
01:01:57.160
2022, I think, for abusing old people, like beating up an old lady.
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So, there's a reason that we're denigrating Jordan Neely, which is that he is a bad person.
01:02:15.360
Daniel Penny, hero and save people, therefore good.
01:02:18.740
Listen, we know from scientific studies that leftists quite literally have brain damage.
01:02:24.140
Because they have atrophied amygdalas and, apparently, if you do something with your brain waves,
01:02:30.700
it can make you less religious and more open to immigration.
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Yes, they've got tiny amygdalas, which is the fear part of the brain, so it gets basically...
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Yeah, but it gets flooded, it gets filled very, very easily.
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So, that's why they're constantly afraid of everything and they can't manage risk because
01:02:51.660
Well, it's probably one of the reasons why they're so, you know, why they're so anxious
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about everything all the time and refuse to go outside.
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Now, again, it wasn't specifically said in the court case, but it's very, very clear
01:03:13.000
when you examine the evidence that was presented by the defence that Jordan Neely died of an
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Yeah, I wonder what other cases we've heard it might be.
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History doesn't repeat, but it certainly rhymes.
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And also, I just want to give a shout out to this amazing picture here, because like
01:03:35.680
with all of the Donald Trump photos that came from this year, 99% of the Daniel Penny photos
01:03:45.580
They want him to look evil, they're like, oh, cast him in dark light, make sure that
01:03:49.140
you've got the flash so you get a big, long shadow of him.
01:03:55.240
If New York is Gotham, then this is Batman taking up the solemn duty to defend his fellow
01:04:05.900
So what's the result of all of this narrative that has been pushed on New Yorkers in particular?
01:04:12.340
As you mentioned at the beginning, Dan, it is, if you see somebody in need, do not help
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Which is the exact opposite of what Daniel Penny has said that he will do, because he
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said if he had to go through it all over again, he would to help people, but it's trying to
01:04:27.240
Well, that proves that Daniel Penny is a better man than I, because if I, for some reason,
01:04:32.040
found myself in New York and saw something going on, unless it was somebody that I cared
01:04:40.440
We don't need people to help the fellow citizens of a city like New York, because it's full
01:04:48.020
And Kathy, the governor, Kathy Hochul, said that back in March, she wanted to make sure
01:04:52.720
that the subways were safer for millions of people who take the trains each day, and since
01:04:57.340
deploying more police officers and more cameras...
01:04:59.060
Sorry, is she saying she's deploying the National Guard?
01:05:04.780
We've got cameras to all subway cars, crime is going down, ridership is going up, so...
01:05:14.860
Yeah, but also, just because you've got cameras doesn't mean the crime stops, it just means
01:05:19.240
Oh yeah, but that's what the National Guard are for.
01:05:21.540
You've literally got armed soldiers standing there going, you're not committing crimes,
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Yeah, but it's not going to be based fire on site, though, is it?
01:05:27.960
Well, there is one problem with all of this, though, which is that it turns out security
01:05:33.100
cameras and the National Guard can't help when somebody spontaneously combusts.
01:05:38.740
When they just explode into flames for no reason.
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I think I'm going to refer to the community note on this one.
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Yeah, more and more, it's a common problem that somebody just catches fire.
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It's like a Jacob's Ladder scenario where crazy things are just happening to you on
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the subway because you're in a nightmare world.
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They're hanging on by a tendon, and they think, what can we do because we're hanging on by a
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This is just like that loud noise that made Donald Trump fall over earlier this year.
01:06:14.920
Oh, no, the Magdeburg Christmas Market attack, the car drives through Christmas Market.
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My goodness, was it one of Elon's self-driving Teslas, was it?
01:06:29.460
Did she set on fire and everyone had a spook and she died?
01:06:35.680
It was a Guatemalan migrant who allegedly set her on fire and then just sort of sat
01:06:42.880
I saw the footage and it's awful because she's just standing there.
01:06:48.940
She had been asleep, and I assume, given it's the New York subway, it's the F train
01:06:53.680
line, which, interestingly enough, is the same one where the Jordan Neely Daniel Penny
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Yeah, I don't know if she had been on drugs or she was drunk or something.
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I'm not going to show it because it's pretty horrifying, but if you want to look at it yourself,
01:07:10.240
you can find the link on the website underneath this video.
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But yeah, the reaction is strange, but it looked like she was already half-burned to death.
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So I'd assume she was sleeping on the subway, so I assume she was some kind of homeless drug
01:07:31.200
addict or drunk or something, obviously, was up with her.
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And as a result, if you try and do that, your fellow citizens will just set you on fire.
01:07:42.060
Well, he's probably illegal, to be honest, isn't he?
01:07:46.580
A Guatemalan migrant, I believe his name has been confirmed to be Sebastian Zapata, has
01:07:53.980
been arrested for allegedly lighting a sleeping subway rider on fire in Brooklyn on Sunday
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morning, then watching as his innocent victim burned to death in what the police commissioner
01:08:03.820
called one of the most depraved crimes one person could possibly commit.
01:08:08.160
The savage killing happened at about 7.30am on an F train, and obviously the commuters were
01:08:15.720
shocked, and the NYPD commissioner, Jessica Teach, said that the heinous crime took the
01:08:22.000
As the train pulled into the station, the suspect calmly walked up to the victim, and
01:08:27.460
They have all of this, not just the camera footage that you can find, also, obviously,
01:08:31.360
the new ones that are on the trains, on the cabins.
01:08:35.140
Walked up to the victim, who was in a seated position at the end of a subway car, and used
01:08:38.840
what we believe to be a lighter to ignite the victim's clothing, which became fully engulfed
01:08:45.120
They extinguished the blaze, but the victim died at the scene.
01:08:48.380
Officials said that the 33-year-old suspect came to the US in 2018 from Guatemala.
01:08:53.320
He was detained by Border Patrol agents in Arizona in June of that year, and his legal
01:08:58.300
status wasn't immediately clear on Sunday night.
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It's entirely possible that this is one of the 13,000 murderers who was released by the
01:09:09.460
Your question as to why, I think, is a good one.
01:09:12.340
Because to the Anglo mind, if we were thinking about committing a crime, I mean, I could see
01:09:19.420
I'd have a contingency plan to get away with it.
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But that sort of thing works for the Anglo mind.
01:09:26.600
If I was going to commit a crime, and I was going to commit human sacrifice by setting
01:09:31.220
somebody on the subway light, I mean, it would simply never occur to me.
01:09:36.380
Certainly if it was going to occur to you to do it on an impulse, you wouldn't then decide,
01:09:40.080
well, I'll just sit here, enjoy my handiwork, hang about a bit.
01:09:44.140
I mean, what did he think was going to be the outcome of this?
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But he'd actually received transit summons in May 2023, but otherwise had no criminal
01:10:02.700
record in New York City, and was living at a shelter on Randall's Island at the time
01:10:07.900
He brazenly sat on a nearby bench as cops huddled around, pulling his hood up at one point
01:10:14.920
Later in the day, they didn't catch him straight away, he was able to just do all of this and
01:10:20.880
But it was later in the day, three high schoolers called the police to say they saw the man
01:10:31.020
And according to Tish and the others, that's how they were able to find him.
01:10:35.440
They found the suspect already on another train leaving the station, wearing the same
01:10:40.140
grey hoodie, wool hat, and paint-splattered pants he'd been wearing when he torched the
01:10:44.820
Police don't believe the migrant and the victim knew each other before the killing.
01:10:51.420
So this guy, casually hanging around, sees a woman sleeping, sets her on fire.
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And the worst part of the footage, outside of the fact that obviously you see a poor woman
01:11:02.940
burning to death, is the fact they say, oh you know, like the police came and they extinguished
01:11:07.680
You can see in the footage, she's stood in the door of the train carriage, police officers
01:11:17.060
It takes a little bit, but a few people show up and try to, you know, like get a coat over
01:11:21.620
her to try and extinguish the flames, all of that stuff.
01:11:27.960
The thing that I'm still stuck on is the sheer randomness of this.
01:11:32.180
Did you ever watch, what's it, Jessica something from Murder, She Wrote?
01:11:41.420
Jessica something would turn up and there'd been a murder.
01:11:45.380
And then she would logically piece it together because one thing connects to that and that
01:11:53.480
There's no logical chain to follow here, isn't there?
01:11:55.880
But can you imagine Jessica, whatever her name is, turning up to solve one of the modern
01:12:04.380
I mean, I kind of want to set myself the challenge over Christmas of coming up with...
01:12:18.120
And then you have to come up with a motive at the end as well.
01:12:26.600
Did Mr. Raman Nemesweakos use a lighter on the subway?
01:12:32.380
It's like, okay, why did Professor Moriarty do this?
01:12:46.900
Yeah, so this is another case where, like in the first segment, while we have a better idea in the first segment of the Magdeburg Killer's motives, with this, you really, when you have strangers amongst you who are not of your culture, of your people, you really just don't understand them.
01:13:09.660
And you can't predict what they're going to do, and oftentimes, you just won't be safe around them.
01:13:16.020
And sadly, in New York, that seems to be how it operates now.
01:13:20.040
This is part and parcel of living in a modern, diverse, multicultural city.
01:13:24.040
And the incentives that have been put in place by public spectacles, like the Daniel Penney trial, are that if you do see something, don't do anything.
01:13:33.900
Because you might get charged, you might get in trouble, your face is going to be the one plastered across all of the newspapers, your name is going to be dragged through the mud.
01:13:42.440
So are you saying that he was arrested because afterwards he tried to put her out?
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OPHUK says, being set on fire is just part of living in a big city, you bigots.
01:13:58.460
Hopefully the comments and the videos will be much more entertaining now.
01:14:02.140
Before we go on, though, can we come back to the image of that guy being arrested?
01:14:07.620
I can't help but see this as a weirdly anachronistic photo.
01:14:11.840
Like, he's wearing his New York t-shirt, but like, he looks like he should be wearing Aztec feathers.
01:14:27.220
Honestly, no motive, no connection to the victim, just does it on a whim, set somebody on fire.
01:14:37.100
It's just encoded into the DNA, must commit human sacrifice.
01:14:40.760
Well, I don't know about necessarily the DNA aspect, but like, I just don't know.
01:14:45.980
Like, it's just, the way he looks, he looks out of time to me.
01:14:51.240
But anyway, that's, don't put that on the YouTube clip.
01:15:02.560
You should coin a term for your measure of economic success, which should be like, I don't
01:15:09.040
I really like this idea, so I worked up what I think is a good measure for inflation, based
01:15:16.100
Fuel especially, since any product that has been transported will require fuel.
01:15:19.800
Not sure I believe the current average wage either.
01:15:22.300
I didn't look into them, but to make this reality-based, I thought of a few metrics that
01:15:27.560
At the bottom was a suggested name that I quite liked.
01:15:35.560
But 500% since 1980 seems, yeah, seems about right.
01:15:41.020
I'll take a deeper look, but yeah, that looks good.
01:15:47.260
It was just a nice afternoon to take the dog and the shotgun out for a walk in the woods.
01:15:54.120
When the snow cleared up, we had a bald eagle circle overhead for a little while, which
01:16:17.880
To everyone at the Lotus Eaters, and to all of you wonderful people at home who watch
01:16:24.160
the Lotus Eaters, wishing you all a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
01:16:47.240
And I will just say to you all, I am not basic-based.
01:17:03.380
So you took that personally and commissioned that video.
01:17:20.860
I mean, I think it was, was it Californian Refugees started ranking us on some tier table.
01:17:43.320
Honestly, judging how it's going right now, I'm not saying this to big myself up.
01:17:54.980
Man, all this talk of groomers just makes me want to film some wholesome content.
01:18:05.100
Yes, when you have a Shiba Inu, Shiba Inus shed twice a year.
01:18:13.320
So without the groomers, let me tell you, she sheds enough we could stuff a duvet.
01:18:24.580
You're supposed to use this grooming brush thing every day, but we can never be bothered
01:18:28.320
with that, so we just end up running the vacuum clean all over the place.
01:18:35.320
There are loads of comments which are happy, Merry Christmas comments.
01:18:40.260
Baron von Warhawk says this guy is extremely disturbing, for the first one, since he was
01:18:47.120
in the West since 2006, was a doctor, and for the most part, he was seen as someone who
01:18:51.240
wasn't religious, yet he still decided to plow a truck into 200 people, which implies
01:18:55.840
that every single one of them who comes to Europe is essentially a sleeper agent that
01:19:00.280
The thing is, I don't want to say that, obviously, because I don't think it's entirely fair,
01:19:02.820
but he definitely had a kind of mindset that is just alien to the West, and he can say,
01:19:09.640
well, now I'm doing it for atheism, okay, it's the plowing people into, plowing cars into
01:19:16.600
Well, instead of like Al-Hu-Akbar, he can say, for Fauci!
01:19:21.100
It's a bit like, I've been on holiday and had a full English breakfast in Turkey and
01:19:26.340
in Thailand, and on both occasions, it was absolutely nothing like a full English breakfast.
01:19:38.620
Russian says, is there a terrorist the BBC won't have promoted?
01:19:44.980
I think people should start, like, Minority Report style, going back through old BBC puff
01:19:52.140
pieces and finding terrorists, because they will be in there.
01:19:57.060
It's like Tom Cruise, a Minority Report, he's just reading the BBC.
01:20:04.340
The future terrorist will be being interviewed by a future nonce.
01:20:12.040
Anyway, the palest son of Yacoub says, no atheist immigration, it's what John Locke would have
01:20:17.640
Yeah, if we're going to be centre-right classical liberals, we need to take this stuff really
01:20:22.580
Arm the entire populace, kill all of the atheists.
01:20:31.100
The thing is, I think what's really holding me back is a good cause, right?
01:20:41.680
Well, what about the original reason to reclaim Europe?
01:20:45.660
That wasn't the original reason to convert to Christianity.
01:20:49.980
Well, it wasn't Europe, it was the Middle East.
01:21:02.380
Yeah, because actually there was a really long build-up to it when they were still in Europe.
01:21:08.480
And initially it was about reclaiming Jerusalem.
01:21:10.300
Yeah, the original purpose was reclaiming Europe, but by the time they actually got around
01:21:14.760
But the point is, you know, like, raising the cross above certain important historic
01:21:25.900
Very important financial backers wouldn't want you raising a cross over there.
01:21:32.880
Warlord Wutu Tai says, I wonder if the Arab mindset there exists, the difference between
01:21:40.260
Like, this guy wasn't distinguishing between the government and the people.
01:21:42.960
And so, like you said, Harry, he just viewed it as an existential other that he was taking
01:21:51.040
Them, as ever, are a bunch of suckers who need to give me what I want.
01:21:55.400
And if they don't, then I'm just going to plough through them all.
01:22:00.360
And it's like, okay, well, we can take him at his word on that, I think.
01:22:03.920
I don't see why we, you know, impute any doubt to it.
01:22:07.480
But he points out, you know, so he punishes the citizenry for the actions of the state.
01:22:11.080
Like, yes, that's exactly what he seems to have done.
01:22:14.080
Derek says, remember that everyone has a religion, regardless of whether you think you have one
01:22:19.020
The question is, what fruits does it bear, and are they good or not?
01:22:22.600
Baystate says, there is another explanation, accelerationism.
01:22:26.440
He might want to provoke Europe to react harshly by clamping down on Muslim infiltration by staging
01:22:32.020
Well, maybe, but that's just not his given reason.
01:22:36.380
Yeah, he's left a very detailed trail for his own beliefs and views for it to be staging
01:22:45.760
Well, this is why I don't believe the Takir thing.
01:22:47.540
It's like, no, I think, you know, 10 years and you set up an NGO and you sit there going,
01:22:51.920
the German government is not looking after these Arab ex-Muslim women, therefore I'm going
01:23:04.020
Justin says, we need sponsorship for immigrants.
01:23:06.280
Anyone who stops an immigrant from being deported after they commit a crime will, if
01:23:09.200
the immigrant commits further crimes, suffer the same punishment.
01:23:12.160
Yeah, like some sort of relation, like feudal relation.
01:23:21.340
You know, like Gary Lineker, these are your bondsmen.
01:23:25.500
And so whatever they do, the ultimate responsibility lies on you.
01:23:32.120
Because I knew it used to be the case that, I mean, the job of an innsman, if a traveller
01:23:37.600
came to town and stayed at an inn, the innsman was responsible if that person committed any
01:23:43.100
So why not, yeah, exactly, just bring that system back.
01:23:45.440
And if you're a leftist and you support immigration.
01:23:50.980
And if they commit any crime, you're doing the time as well.
01:23:53.680
Well, Arizona Desert Rat says, was Saudi Arabia even involved in a conflict in 2016?
01:24:00.240
Saudi Arabia, I mean, unless they were bombing Yemen back then, but I don't think they were.
01:24:05.160
But no, the refugee status comes from them being an Islamic country and he being like,
01:24:11.300
It's like, okay, well, what does Islam do to ex-Muslims?
01:24:17.740
Omar says, you can understand the motives of someone like Luigi Magnioni.
01:24:22.400
The target is at least tangentially related to his predicament.
01:24:26.380
To be able to attack innocent kids and families shows the boundaries of their in-slash-out-group
01:24:33.960
He might not consider Muslims to be his in-group, but he considers them to be part of the human
01:24:38.700
Well, ex-Muslims, that's the thing, is the issue.
01:24:41.260
So, Arabs, essentially, is what he was in favor of.
01:24:47.680
I want as many of them in the West as possible.
01:24:51.420
The rest of us are propositional humans, and second, he disagrees with the proposition.
01:24:59.760
Jimbo says, well, at least we found one of those doctors we hear so much about.
01:25:04.020
It's like, you know, we're bringing over doctors.
01:25:08.780
It's like, okay, well, now one of the doctors has gone on a terrorist attack.
01:25:14.440
I put out one on, basically, the list of doctors who committed terrorist attacks.
01:25:22.020
Wasn't there also a report as well, recently, that 60% of all doctors assaulting, sexually
01:25:35.800
Lord Nerevar says, instead of Fed posting about the Magdaver attack,
01:25:38.780
I shall instead hop onto the podcast here and wish everyone a happy Christmas at the
01:25:44.740
And all the faithful subscribers, a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
01:25:49.080
Well, like Dan pointed out in his segment, like, things are happening and we are going
01:25:54.960
It's just how many people are going to have to die to get to that point when we could have
01:25:59.060
begun there just using a bit of just, I mean, just common sense and basic reasoning.
01:26:04.040
Yes, not being leftards 20 years ago would have solved all of this.
01:26:11.520
It's like, yeah, no, they're all just blank slate humans, bro.
01:26:15.800
Dr. David says, if only Hitler had thought to check Dr. Mengele's qualifications.
01:26:23.600
Santa is a Mossad informant using Palantir to spy on children, says, I will have no bad words
01:26:29.460
The bacon test is actually the origin of tapas.
01:26:31.740
You'll test if someone is a moor by offering them little bits of pork and wine.
01:26:45.700
What are you doing giving me this tiny rubbish little portions?
01:26:48.900
If you're going to feed me, feed me a full meal.
01:26:59.300
Like, go to a country, all right, you've got to drink this milk and eat this bacon sandwich.
01:27:04.120
That's the kind of attitude they're looking for.
01:27:12.020
You'd be like Tom Hanks in that film, Airport, where he just goes around and around and around
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Haven't we already fed you four times already, sir?
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The local Church of England, where I live, are appealing on Facebook for Christmas presents
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for Muslims being processed at the local army camp, where four of them are a few weeks ago,
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Yeah, I mean, point out, well, they don't celebrate Christmas.
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And I saw the other day someone posting, why do we want Muslims in Britain, blah, blah, blah.
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And the dunk, the Uber dunk that this Muslim came back with was like, so you can get taxis
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But we don't need taxis and Deliveroo on Christmas Day.
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You should be spending Christmas Day at your family's home eating turkey.
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One, you shouldn't be getting these things on Christmas Day anyway.
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Second, we've got plenty of atheists, right, who are prepared to work on Christmas Day.
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No, I do remember in the 90s, you couldn't get anything on Christmas Day.
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All the shops were closed, apart from the corner shops.
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Until like the 80s, Sundays, shops had to be closed.
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I think it was the mid-80s where they allowed shops to become open on Sundays.
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If you remember really far back, shops used to close on Wednesday afternoon.
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Yeah, but the point is, better civilization, but you can get your Christmas Deliveroo by
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What you need to order is whatever you need to put onto little hats in order to make them
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I'm pretty sure there is a product that does that.
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I mean, there must be, but I'm not aware of it.
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Just it says, Germany is a country that has been mass brainwashed into needing to attend
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Well, it's what people are trying to set us up for with the international slave trade.
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And this is why we literally have to just ignore it.
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And Matthew says, should men take the risk that their life will be ruined for protecting
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people against an attacker in an area that might charge them as a vigilante?
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Well, obviously, that's why people don't want to do it.
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But the Daniel Penny case is at least fairly heartening in regard that, and this happened
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a few years ago with the home invasion in Britain, where essentially the government was trying
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And the government was like, well, you're under arrest.
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And everyone's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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And thankfully, he got let off and everything was fine.
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That was a teenager who was trying to break into his barn.
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And the parents were like, oh, they killed my son.
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But the guy was literally like, it was an old guy who was in his 60s.
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And essentially, this guy attacked him with a screwdriver.
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He managed to get the screwdriver and stab him with it.
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What the hell are you doing in this house, attacking the screwdriver?
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But anyway, so the point being, hopefully, Daniel Penny is an example to brave men of goodwill.
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Well, yeah, but there will be a precedent going forward that if you are in defense of people
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and you save some people from a dangerous lunatic, you will not actually go to jail over that.
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And I think that's about all we've got time for, unless you want to carry on.
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I found out how you make the little hat stay in place.
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And thank you all very much for spending the year with us, for helping to support us and
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We really appreciate every single one of you out there.
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So we hope you, from the bottom of our hearts, have a very, very Merry Christmas and a Happy