The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1070

00:00:00.000 good afternoon ladies and gentlemen welcome to the podcast of the lotus eaters for the

00:00:12.360 2nd of january 2025 first podcast of the new year i am joined by harry and charlie downs

00:00:18.360 hello happy new year to everybody did you have a good christmas i had a lovely christmas yeah

00:00:24.420 it's just lots of family lots of eating incredibly rich food which i can't even

00:00:27.800 look at now anymore and uh yeah it was just a welcome break to the uh constant churning roiling

00:00:34.200 madness of uh being in this business i had a christmas that's good i'd hear it um we are going

00:00:41.180 to be talking about some i mean the new year has begun with a bang actually uh two terror attacks

00:00:46.600 the thing is it's true yeah um also elon musk uh blowing up the grooming gang issue in britain

00:00:55.500 which is superb and uh then charlie's going to give us a roundup of what exactly has been

00:01:00.700 happening with migration that's right yeah so one of my other hats is uh the i work as the content

00:01:06.000 lead at the center for migration control which is a migration think tank we are a small operation

00:01:10.960 trying to sort of actually um do the work that a lot of other kind of migration think tanks in the

00:01:15.920 space just won't do um because there's a lot of people out there who are just kind of recording data

00:01:20.200 but there's not that many people out there who are actually calling for you know real kind of change

00:01:24.740 from an actual political perspective um and so i'm going to go through or well six pieces of our

00:01:29.800 research um that we've put out this year uh which should be of interest they will be very useful if

00:01:33.860 you want to make anti-migration arguments to your friends family colleagues etc and so so yeah

00:01:39.140 great okay let's get on all right then so to kick off the year america has sadly had to have a bit

00:01:45.920 of taste of the european experience because it turns out the christmas period and new year period

00:01:51.560 is not just a time for european-based terror attacks but american as well now the authorities

00:01:57.660 are not saying definitively that these two incidents are terror attacks yet but they are investigating them

00:02:04.320 with the suspicion that they might be so which might also be helped along by the fact that one of them

00:02:09.340 a driver in new orleans who rammed down a crowd of people killing 15 had an isis flag

00:02:15.840 in his car so that might lead some to believe that this was terror related although people are

00:02:22.420 not saying it definitively as of yet so we'll see what investigations happen far right are saying

00:02:28.740 it on twitter well yes and also well to be fair i watched the cnn coverage of it and even they had a

00:02:34.220 few contributors who were saying like come on it's an isis come on what else are we supposed to say

00:02:40.420 about this but of course they are going to potentially deflect and say that oh they were

00:02:45.220 trying to say that oh it wasn't necessarily that he was doing it on behalf of isis you just like the

00:02:49.960 pattern on the flag just that what actually it was personal reasons to do with the fact that he was

00:02:54.860 heavily in debt and he was radicalized by the kind of violent rhetoric of isis to do violent things

00:03:01.200 not necessarily related to isis goals oh okay so why can't we just call a spade that was very very

00:03:07.220 torturous logic that i saw from them but the first of the uh ones that i'm going to talk about is the

00:03:12.480 trump hotel attack which happened in las vegas now that was a cyber truck so elon musk branding

00:03:20.940 uh combined with an explosion at the trump towers so you could make a reasonable assumption that this

00:03:27.480 was something anti-maga that was going on clearly because obviously elon's heavily involved with

00:03:33.440 at this point so the only detective it's the first place you'd look obviously but the person who was in

00:03:39.520 the driver's seat of this cyber truck when it exploded is the only person who has been killed

00:03:45.360 in this incident seven people were injured and police have said that they're not naming any of the

00:03:52.040 individuals involved and the police themselves have not named the man who was behind the driver's wheel

00:03:56.820 at the time of the explosion but the local news have named him as matthew livelsberger or livelsberger

00:04:04.840 however you're supposed to pronounce that so i'll just go through some of the details that are given

00:04:09.240 in this bbc article the truck itself was rented in colorado and drove all the way to las vegas on

00:04:15.700 wednesday morning less than two hours before the detonation it parked in front of the hotel near a glass

00:04:21.180 entrance and then started to smoke and then exploded now people are saying that you know this is

00:04:26.680 props to elon for designing his cyber truck the way that he did it was actually the way that the

00:04:30.840 cyber truck was designed meant that the explosion instead of spreading outwards went straight up

00:04:36.500 and as you can see from this image here the uh the front end of the truck is still mostly intact

00:04:42.320 so actually none of the glass was damaged uh not much of anything else was damaged but the cyber

00:04:49.060 truck obviously it was a big enough explosion that it hurt seven other people but actually

00:04:53.100 fair play to it it could have been a lot worse because the cyber truck itself contained the blast

00:04:59.100 to a certain extent which is you know very very impressive and this actually only happened at

00:05:03.980 8 40 pt which was only hours after a man drove a truck uh through the crowd in new orleans 15 people

00:05:13.400 died in that attack and dozens were injured now people are of course speculating whether this was a

00:05:18.580 coordinated attack on both ends which is especially uh helped by the fact that both of these vehicles

00:05:25.100 that were used were rented by the same company uh turo an app-based car rental company and both of the

00:05:33.000 men this matthew livelsberger and the new orleans attacker which is uh i've heard his name pronounced

00:05:39.920 shanshaddin jabbar both both were on the same uh american military base they both are veterans

00:05:49.800 of the american military so there's a lot of strange connections that are being made between

00:05:55.620 these not not to mention the coordination of the attacks happening within hours of one another and

00:06:00.760 this is fueling a lot of speculation some people are saying that it was an inside job i don't know if

00:06:06.140 there's anything to say about that some people are wondering if there has been some kind of

00:06:09.700 radicalization cell operating within the american military some are of course saying that it might

00:06:15.100 just all be a coincidence but again uh you know your your mileage with any of those theories may vary

00:06:22.320 right now when we're still in the preliminary stages of investigation the fbi have said the agency

00:06:27.280 are looking into whether the incident might be an act of terrorism they're not currently confirming

00:06:32.060 the identity of the driver but obviously the local news have done the sheriff noted that both of

00:06:37.080 the vehicles were rented from the same company and the company itself said in the statement that the

00:06:40.940 company was working with authorities in las vegas and new orleans to help with the investigation

00:06:45.400 spokesperson noted both renters appeared to not have a criminal background that would have identified

00:06:50.440 either of them as a security threat and you know necessarily why would they they were both

00:06:55.240 in the military that one of them at least one of them was an afghan veteran which was the new

00:07:00.460 orleans attacker which is makes it more ironic that he ended up you know attacking them with an isis flag

00:07:06.160 he's just annoyed the taliban took over the isis yeah clearly he watched callum's video and was

00:07:10.920 appalled uh we actually have footage that was released of the explosion of the cyber truck which

00:07:17.400 is only very very short but you can watch it here let's take a look at it oh yeah i see what i mean

00:07:23.180 about the going straight up yeah it goes straight up and you might notice something very strange about

00:07:27.700 all of the flashes that happened immediately afterwards that's because elon musk and tesla

00:07:32.180 immediately went looking into what was going on and found that because some people were saying oh

00:07:36.660 the lithium battery battery leaked caused the fire that caused an explosion some were trying to

00:07:41.140 speculate initially that this was an accident in fact what was found in the back of the truck was

00:07:46.040 explosives and fireworks which spread the explosion i feel like there's probably a joke to be made about

00:07:53.720 new year's fireworks there but it's probably important so i'm not gonna make it might be

00:07:57.900 it might be uh again local news have reported that this is a gentleman called matthew livelsberger who

00:08:05.320 is now dead who is the driver multiple sources told abc affiliate denver 7 and ko double a news that

00:08:12.800 livelsberger 37 a former army veteran of colorado springs was behind the wheel of the vehicle which

00:08:18.400 exploded outside of trump international hotel he allegedly died in the blast according to sources

00:08:23.320 police is still not confirming his name and again he and shamsuddin at jabbar served at the same

00:08:30.520 military base in colorado springs and you can also see that people were reporting showing his

00:08:36.400 linkedin page which gives a detailed background of his military history he'd been in the u.s army

00:08:42.320 for 19 years as of right now this guy we do not know anywhere near as much about as jabbar and why he may

00:08:52.100 have done it uh people don't know if he did it for ideological reasons which might be the case given

00:08:57.520 that obviously it was a cyber truck outside of a trump hotel uh but there was no iconography like the

00:09:02.660 isis flag found at the scene of this so investigations are still pending we'll see what happens in new

00:09:09.680 orleans again uh what's happened is uh shamsuddin jabbar drove a truck at high speed into crowds around

00:09:19.160 3 15 a.m before crashing and exchanging fire with three police officers who then killed him in the

00:09:26.420 exchange of gunfire so good on them for for neutralizing that threat even though obviously

00:09:32.540 they couldn't you know they couldn't save those 15 people's lives tragically uh jabbar served almost

00:09:38.660 eight years in the army including a deployment in afghanistan and was honorably discharged he recently

00:09:44.020 converted to islam and began behaving erratically according to his ex-wife's husband an islamic state

00:09:50.680 flag weapons and potential explosive devices were found in the truck that officials say he used in

00:09:56.420 the attack so again there's another similarity here which was the explosive devices were found

00:10:00.660 in this car it just seems that in this situation he wasn't able to get them off so again signs of

00:10:08.100 potential coordination the investigation says that the isis flag and potential bombs have raised the

00:10:13.340 specter of the international terrorist group played a role in the attack alethea duncan assistant

00:10:17.740 special agent for the fbi in new orleans urged anyone who's had contact with them uh in the last 72

00:10:22.380 hours to reach out to law enforcement were aggressively running down every lead including those of his

00:10:26.920 known associates now as well his home i believe was in houston texas and i have seen footage

00:10:32.720 of an armored police vehicle outside of that home arresting all of the occupants and you can see

00:10:40.400 that there's people coming out of the home with their arms up reversing back to them being arrested

00:10:45.060 and the fbi themselves have said they are not treating this as though the attacker was alone

00:10:50.200 in planning this so they think that a few people may have been involved that might end up to include

00:10:55.520 levels burger as well but we'll see official said that the security bollards along a section of bourbon

00:11:01.220 street where the attack happened had been removed for repairs in preparation for the super bowl next

00:11:06.380 month patrol cars and barriers had been set up to block access instead but the attacker drove around

00:11:11.480 them superintendent kurt patrick said uh that we did indeed have a plan to stop terrorism but the

00:11:18.160 terrorists defeated it right that's incredibly reassuring isn't it good job guys at least the police

00:11:26.980 were not able to neutralize him before he could cause any more damage before he could set off

00:11:31.120 the explosives but good god this should never have happened in the first place but then again we saw

00:11:35.660 last month the last month of 2024 in germany that the bollards of peace do not actually do that much

00:11:43.460 to stop these kinds of attacks in the first place so every step of protection every stage of protection

00:11:50.720 for the public in incidents like these is woefully inadequate the army veteran they say who rammed the

00:11:57.120 pick up into new year's revelers was inspired by the islamic state terrorists organization according

00:12:01.960 to biden because he came out and did a press conference about this in videos posted to social

00:12:06.900 media shortly before the attack in new orleans that killed at least 15 the man himself jabbar had

00:12:12.360 indicated he had a desire to kill so i've not been able to find those videos i assume they have been

00:12:18.920 completely scrubbed and taken off of the internet but i would have been very interesting interested to see

00:12:24.860 them because again it would mirror what happened in germany last month where the attacker had

00:12:30.520 basically posted on social media left a trail saying by the way i'm going to kill people i will

00:12:35.480 cause a terrorist attack and murder people for the sake of my own beliefs now he was doing it as

00:12:40.500 kind of like a weird counter jihad anti-islam thing yeah pro-immigration counter jihad yes but either way

00:12:47.520 the result is the same which is that some radical posted all over social media i'm gonna kill people

00:12:54.860 and then anti-terrorist measures in the city were woefully inadequate to actually do anything to stop it

00:13:02.520 yeah but harry we were keeping close tracks on the far right well you know at least there's that at least

00:13:07.720 there's that uh well yeah of course i mean uh what was it the fbi or the cia said that white supremacy

00:13:13.440 is one of their biggest targets in the u.s because um you know you get so many white supremacist

00:13:18.480 terrorist attacks like this in the u.s don't you and across europe uh the president said that he'd

00:13:22.960 been briefed on the new orleans attacks post by federal investigators who were looking into his

00:13:26.540 possible ties in some of the videos he's uh the suspect said that he had pledged allegiance to isis

00:13:32.120 and appeared to be driving according uh and appeared to be driving in the videos as well

00:13:37.540 uh he was at 42 from texas and he died in the shootout so again there are some who are going

00:13:43.640 to say oh it might not be terrorism it might not be it might just be that you know he had two ex-wives

00:13:49.020 he'd run up a lot of bills and debts so he decided to just do this and just happened to pledge allegiance

00:13:54.020 to isis as among us has not done this i mean to be fair right i am prepared to accept the idea

00:13:59.980 that a you know a guy kind of going down a spiral mentally in his lifestyle you know that does have an

00:14:06.220 effect on somebody but that's not to say that the you know pledging allegiance to isis and converting

00:14:10.720 to islam and all the rest of it is completely you know not a factor here because the two you can

00:14:14.280 have both why can't we have both yeah he could be a man both who decides the way out is convert to

00:14:18.760 islam and join isis yeah totally totally plausible yeah that's not some sort of exculpatory uh factor

00:14:26.280 yeah it doesn't have to be they're not mutually exclusive if anything they are you know they

00:14:29.800 imagine a lot of terrorists have got mental issues in the chain of logic it's a reason

00:14:35.300 one of multiple reasons there can be a multi-factor analysis done of this either way again he was from

00:14:43.660 the military there was a video that he had posted in 2020 explaining his background how he was starting

00:14:49.980 businesses things like that it doesn't really seem to have much relevant information but people are

00:14:54.540 sharing the video because it seems right now it's the only footage that's publicly available of him that

00:14:59.860 hasn't been scrubbed because i don't know why they wouldn't want us having those videos where he

00:15:05.360 pledges allegiance to isis maybe there's extra information in there that hasn't been released

00:15:09.660 to the public if you have access to those videos or have seen them and there's extra information in

00:15:14.240 there i'd be very interested to hear what was said here's a photograph of the isis flag that was found

00:15:21.460 in his car seems pretty cut and dried yeah and again people have been theorizing about this some

00:15:28.980 people have been going pretty far with them um not not that i say that there's anything wrong with

00:15:33.500 theorizing uh where clint russell for instance has been saying like uh the hydraulic barriers were

00:15:38.440 started taken down to stop vehicle attacks uh the attacker was a u.s military vet wielding an ar and

00:15:44.380 body armor plus ieds trump tower attack uh it was a cyber truck explosion in vegas a lot of people are

00:15:50.120 very suspicious of all of the uh of all of the uh parallels yeah and a lot of the connections

00:15:57.260 between these it's not like this would be the first time the fbi have done something like this

00:16:02.180 and of course they're very worried and we know in fact they're very worried about trump coming into

00:16:07.100 office and putting cash patel in charge of the fbi so this is genuine it could well be

00:16:15.020 to to play devil's advocate i mean i would say like i i see the parallels here and i see the kind

00:16:22.020 of narrative that's being sketched out but i mean i can't see the objective here i can't see what this

00:16:26.800 what this has achieved um i'm you know i mean like it hasn't i mean the trump tower one didn't kill

00:16:31.720 anybody uh didn't seem to do any damage to the building itself didn't seem to discredit elon musk

00:16:36.580 you know because his vehicle survived um but even if it hadn't survived how would that discredit

00:16:40.700 yeah it might it might have just been one of those kind of political statements we are in the

00:16:47.140 era of pointless suicidal political statements remember mister i'm going to set myself on fire

00:16:54.740 for palestine he's not the only one yeah there's there's a few like that so i mean we live in

00:17:00.120 horrible times we live in horrible times where people are politically isolated radicalized and

00:17:06.100 mental health problems and have major mental health problems and feel the need to do extreme

00:17:10.660 and terrible things to get their point across so with the case of the cyber truck maybe he was

00:17:15.600 acting alone and this was just a situation where he went a bit crazy maybe but if he was trying to

00:17:20.980 make a political statement why sit in the truck when it blew up like why would you lazy glory i don't

00:17:25.760 know yeah exactly it's it doesn't make sense but um but then maybe we're trying to read sense into

00:17:30.940 something that just completely is just a an expression of insanity basically could be yeah and and again

00:17:35.840 one of the other things that really got people thinking was the fact that both of them uh were

00:17:40.660 at the same military base so people are wondering what the connections are but again right now a lot

00:17:46.400 of the information is coming out we'll see what happens with investigations if anybody has any extra

00:17:52.420 information to give us you know we're happy to hear it uh but right now we're in the dark about a lot

00:17:57.460 of this all i can say is that um you know uh thoughts and prayers going out to everybody who was

00:18:01.980 involved in either attack those injured in las vegas and those killed and injured in new orleans

00:18:07.880 these things are always a tragedy and it's awful that we have to start the new year this way

00:18:13.380 unfortunately it's just a part of life in the west at this point it's just yeah part and parcel

00:18:18.180 yeah it literally is part and parcel every city slowly becomes baghdad yeah um that's a nice cherry

00:18:25.360 start to the new year says it seems plausible the new orleans attacker would have used the cyber

00:18:30.840 truck because he'd use if because he'd used a different electric truck implies some shared

00:18:36.100 recipe between the attacks oh that was one of the other things as well the new orleans attacker was

00:18:39.720 also using an electric truck oh was he yeah that's weird so anyway let's let's move on um so i actually

00:18:48.380 do have some good news which is nice because well everything's been bad right and now i'm going to

00:18:55.540 try not to enjoy this too much but it's because the the base topic is of course one of the worst

00:19:02.720 things that's ever happened in britain uh but we've been collectively talking about this for many years

00:19:07.720 now i i think i did the first video i made on this in 2014 after the alexis j report came out i was like

00:19:13.660 wow that's horrific maybe we should be considering this as a major crime and it's been a long

00:19:18.360 long time that we've been banging this drum and so now to finally get some movement on the issue

00:19:23.680 of the grooming gangs in the united kingdom uh the ethnically motivated sort of ethno-religiously

00:19:29.860 motivated uh grooming gangs in the united kingdom it's it's just honestly a sense of relief oh thank

00:19:36.520 god you know thank god this is you know finally sort of the dam is breaking and it's all flooding out

00:19:42.200 if i may very quickly car i had a tweet last night that said um this issue was really one of the first

00:19:47.360 things that got me properly interested in politics because i as you do when you're a kid right i

00:19:51.960 googled my own name charlie downs up pops the case of charlene downs and i then read that when i was

00:19:56.840 in my teens and i was like my goodness like the fact that this kind of thing is going on in britain

00:20:01.280 i didn't have i had no idea about it at the time wasn't talked about it at school well you know wasn't

00:20:05.020 seeing it in the news or anything like that and it was really you know i you said it's one of the

00:20:09.420 worst things that's happened in britain's history i actually would make the case that it is the worst

00:20:14.800 thing the worst set of events to ever happen on the british titles worse than uh you know the

00:20:19.260 harrying of the north worse than the viking invasions worse than the blitz i don't think

00:20:22.960 they're worse than those it's worse than the blitz it's it's probably not worse than those things but

00:20:26.900 we are quite separate in time from but but what i would say is is those were a consequence of a

00:20:32.080 fairly you know conventional invasion right whereas this is a consequence of a ruling class that's

00:20:37.280 completely betrayed the the population of this country brought in these you know savages who have

00:20:43.040 then gone on to commit these crimes and then covered up you know then they covered it up so it's an

00:20:47.260 it's an institutional uh thing uh which i think is why it's just so despicable yeah and so um i'd like

00:20:53.620 to give uh a lot of props to uh right-wing twitter basically because they decided to bring this uh right

00:21:01.500 front and center at the very beginning of the new year i don't know why day one of january was the the

00:21:07.440 day but everyone started posting about the grooming gangs and i was like yeah no good point since we're you

00:21:12.280 know if everyone's gonna do it i'm gonna get in on it as well because the it's just such an open wound

00:21:17.760 that has not been allowed to begin to heal because no one's been brought to justice really okay yeah

00:21:22.700 the the the gang members themselves have gone to jail okay great that's great but as i mean as i

00:21:28.900 point out here these these men were trafficking these girls to various cities where they would be

00:21:34.640 prostituted well who were the men that they were being prostituted to you know what communities were

00:21:40.160 they being prostituted to all the mps the councillors the police at the various different levels of these

00:21:46.120 of the state why has there been no accountability for that and so this uh like i said it's a festering

00:21:52.820 wound and everyone started kicking it off and it was great to see it was like those like it wasn't

00:21:58.160 coordinated it was kind of like a natural upswell yes from writing twitter this is an issue we want

00:22:03.280 resolved and it's morally just and it needs to happen and it was really nice to see um well

00:22:09.320 people uh getting in on this people who are you know important famous and uh have much bigger reach

00:22:17.500 than the rest of us elon musk replied to a bunch of my tweets on this which was very nice and it's

00:22:23.120 one thing i like about elon musk there there are lots of people who've got their complaints about

00:22:27.000 yeah okay he's not perfect he's under a lot of pressure i imagine but he's been completely

00:22:31.000 consistent on the children actually should not be victimized position so he's got that kind of

00:22:36.680 dadist streak in him i mean one of the first things he did with twitter when he took it over was he

00:22:41.580 took over and found oh there's a lot of uh cp on this platform why would that be and then he banned

00:22:47.780 that and then that all went to blue skype for some reason um but anyway so elon has been weighing in

00:22:53.600 on this uh consistently and he just decided to go on essentially a day-long crusade about this subject

00:22:59.440 and it's amazing it's finally thank god the richest most followed man in the world

00:23:05.760 is calling attention to this issue thank god right so liz truss uh began tweeting about you can see

00:23:12.900 34 million views on this tweet um because uh there were lots and lots of people like sam here who were

00:23:19.980 pointing out just the atrocious injustices that again have been festering unresolved for over a decade

00:23:25.920 now where in this particular case as you can see parents who were attempting to rescue their

00:23:31.060 children were arrested by the police when the police were called to they were called by the

00:23:36.940 crew to prevent them from breaking in and rescuing their own daughters like it's just unbelievable and

00:23:44.080 the this is coming to the attention of the americans who are like how can this be real it's like yes we've

00:23:49.840 been trapped in a nightmare blairite dystopia for for two decades now and finally people are realizing

00:23:57.240 how bad this has been and so good on this trust good something else that i think about all things

00:24:02.520 in life but this especially is uh you know there is such a thing as you know like a cosmic moral debt

00:24:09.180 like there's something like this doesn't it doesn't just go away right it will manifest itself in

00:24:13.100 some way um and i have long believed that if it is not uh dealt with properly and and handled with

00:24:19.840 you know a degree of uh you know seriousness and severity by the authorities and this is to be clear

00:24:26.140 not in any way an incitement to this then i think that the way that this will manifest itself is just

00:24:30.820 you know is just riots in an order that we haven't seen well that's what that's what the southport

00:24:34.900 riots were about yes the southport riots were yes the issue that has gone unspoken

00:24:40.620 yeah manifesting itself in ways that they don't want but this is the point i mean like you said

00:24:44.800 it's an open wound and it doesn't just you know the authorities can ignore it but it's not just

00:24:48.720 going to go away yeah the wounds are still on that's what this trust is pointing out you know

00:24:52.100 the authorities who turned a blind eye in the name of not inflaming racial tensions well i'm sorry but

00:24:58.260 when you've got one group being predatory to another the tensions are there whether you like them or not

00:25:03.660 so i do actually have uh a bit of insight on this so i i released a report recently um which

00:25:09.580 in which i basically made the case that it appears if you look at the data that the authorities are

00:25:14.080 actively suppressing the recording and uh uh reporting of ethnicity data when it comes to

00:25:20.460 sexual assaults and uh and rapes um because if you look at statistics out of london um for all

00:25:25.780 sexual assaults and uh and rapes and if you look at child sexual sexual abuse nationwide you'll see

00:25:32.000 that age and uh sex are recorded almost every time almost in 100 percent of cases whereas if you look

00:25:38.800 ethnicity it's about a quarter of the time and this is not you know and so that points to something

00:25:43.220 like a cover-up that points to the fact that they could be recording this data if they wanted to

00:25:47.280 but they aren't um the argument that i made was that this is due to uh interpretation of the equality

00:25:53.440 act right as so many ills of modern britain are um if you look at section 149 the equality act it

00:25:59.400 mandates that public uh bodies um seek to foster good relations between different groups essentially

00:26:05.380 um they use they use the term groups with protected characteristics and groups without protecting

00:26:09.480 you know blah blah blah whatever it doesn't matter um but this you know this appears to be this is

00:26:13.060 not some accident right this is not this is not uh and it's and it's not even a choice at the

00:26:16.700 individual level this is because of policy it's been a conscious policy to try and protect yes

00:26:21.520 the pakistani muslim community yes from the reputation they would otherwise have incurred yes from

00:26:27.760 this behavior but this is the point this idea of not inflaming racial tensions this is actually

00:26:31.700 you know this is actually the the mechanism by which that happens it's because you know the

00:26:35.460 authorities don't want to uh you know they create and maintain a state of active injustice yes in the

00:26:41.680 country and so people are furious it's disgusting yeah it's it's it's it's disgusting you're culpable

00:26:47.600 you're uh part of the crimes as far as i'm concerned agree because because what is what is

00:26:52.380 happening get to that what what is happening is that inflamed racial group tensions between people

00:26:57.740 is not coming about because people are made aware of crimes being uh that are being done uh it's done

00:27:04.860 because of the crimes that's what inflames the racial tensions if you want to prevent the racial

00:27:10.240 tensions you're going to have to prevent the crimes and in the cases of large-scale communities all

00:27:15.960 being complicit in it through silence or active involvement well i'm sorry you're going to have to

00:27:20.780 remove those communities but but doesn't and we'll get to all this let me carry on uh because you're

00:27:25.820 not alone in that thought uh anyway so you know people like jk rowling were tweeting about it and

00:27:29.960 the reason i point this out is because the these are i mean jk rowling's got what like you know how

00:27:34.260 many millions of followers does jk rowling have 14 million followers this trust's tweet got 34 million

00:27:40.480 views elon musk himself again most followed man in the world as far as i can tell 200 million followers

00:27:45.700 like this is a an issue that is becoming undeniable and unavoidable right and so it's good to see

00:27:54.800 like again they're not all right on every issue or anything like that but this is an issue on which

00:27:58.880 they are right and it's very very much to their credit that they're actually really slamming this

00:28:04.760 on the table and saying listen watch tommy robinson's documentary like elon musk tweeted this elon musk's

00:28:12.040 pinned tweet is currently free tommy robinson the overton window i've never seen it shift so rapidly

00:28:17.960 isn't it's blown wide open yeah this i mean this is just superb again you don't have to agree with

00:28:22.600 everything tommy robinson has ever done or said or his positions on various things but on this

00:28:26.780 particular issue he is right and it's good that the i don't know how to describe them they're like

00:28:31.560 the the center right are getting behind this and saying no this is a correct thing that that's a

00:28:36.860 good thing to push and there's no point counter signaling it um and again you've got lots of people

00:28:41.740 james mcmurdoch from reform um and this is a great point he's making it right so in the last couple

00:28:47.300 of days uh labor have launched uh well launched new review every two and a half days right so that's

00:28:54.620 a huge number of reviews that they've been doing and yet when it came to the grooming gangs yeah we're

00:29:01.820 not going to have that we're not going to have an inquiry into the grooming gang scandal so as james

00:29:06.380 points out what would you infer from this well that this is policy i would also infer from this that you

00:29:11.480 know this you know the inquiries that are being conducted are essentially you know they're not actually

00:29:16.140 aimed at solving anything would be you know one thing you could conclude it seems to just be a

00:29:21.280 kind you know the managerial state uh justifying its own existence just because that's the way that

00:29:25.620 our system works now is it just it just creates itself would you trust labor to do an impartial

00:29:32.880 review of this in the first place what was the was it the 2020 review done by the home office

00:29:38.020 which was almost explicitly just to try and simmer down tensions and try to make excuses for actions

00:29:45.400 that have been taken by say well actually actually it's not all of them yeah it's not it's not

00:29:50.000 literally every single foreign person in the country is grooming children so therefore

00:29:54.400 you can't you can't say anything another thing is the equivocation it's like yes but like the

00:29:59.340 majority of people molested are molested by white men therefore so therefore what therefore there's

00:30:04.520 no problem even though if you actually read the details of the data it's not that at all it's

00:30:09.240 actually no they are majority asian gangs but they the last point they're they're saying well

00:30:13.620 they like they're they're mixing together two different kinds of phenomenon and of course

00:30:18.160 per capita you would expect that because there's some majority english white country anyway so good

00:30:25.880 good for reform mps and nigel fraser tweeted about this and various others tweet about this

00:30:30.780 uh for getting in on it um elon has been going really hard on this and man this is just so good

00:30:38.360 as he says here in the uk serious crimes such as rape require the crown prosecution services approval

00:30:43.240 from police charged suspects who's the head of the cps when rape gangs were allowed to exploit young

00:30:47.720 girls without facing justice keir starmer 2008 to 2013 going very hard yeah very very hard i would

00:30:54.480 also add that at that time when keir starmer was the director of public prosecutions was around the

00:30:59.380 start around the time that the suppression of ethnic ethnicity data started that i was talking about

00:31:03.440 earlier uh and people are just posting uh well things from that time like newspaper articles

00:31:09.020 from that time pointing out that yeah no he he actually was the one making the executive decision

00:31:13.340 on this and he was well no they're not they're not that big a deal in fact uh we don't want to

00:31:18.880 stoke racism now do we these people are my clients thinks keir starmer yeah this is probably literally i

00:31:26.180 stopped that man from getting deported why would i charge him now well they're they're really the

00:31:30.340 victims of a racist society don't you understand it's strangely fitting that at this time in british

00:31:35.640 history we have this man as our supposed leader yeah he is and on your point there just car i know

00:31:40.900 you said it offhand but that it is remarkable that you get like german psychiatrists basically making

00:31:45.520 that argument which is well it's an expression of the rage that comes from being displaced within

00:31:50.280 society in the racial uh isolation that they feel so therefore please your honor don't give him a

00:31:56.360 sentence yeah you know i'm not sympathetic to that at all weirdly enough um but one of the uh one of

00:32:01.360 the good things that elon promoted was charlie peters and his investigation yeah he's a really

00:32:06.000 a long-time warrior on this subject and charlie in fact there's a fantastic thread here you should

00:32:11.920 go and look at it in your own time where he just goes through his extensive research into the grooming

00:32:17.480 gang phenomenon and as you can see he's doing an incredibly thorough job yeah he is one of the

00:32:22.760 finest journalists in britain today yeah yeah and we we are we have such a dearth of good journalists

00:32:27.480 um but again 15 million views spectacular you love to see this is a great start to 2025

00:32:33.800 and uh i'm absolutely adoring this so if i seem excited it's not about the subject it's about the

00:32:40.400 prominence of the subject coming into the british public discourse because you can imagine what

00:32:44.860 labor's like you know furor bunker was like this morning because they this all was happening quite

00:32:50.880 late in the evening and through the night because it was the americans ginning a lot of this up and

00:32:55.940 so they must have woken up and look at their twitter notifications and gone ah

00:32:58.920 uh which good that's like there's nothing wrong that what we're getting excited about is the justice

00:33:05.740 yeah nothing wrong with being excited about justice might come for the people who have done this

00:33:10.160 because i mean like there are lots of people who have just suffered for decades there are

00:33:13.700 grooming gang survivors on twitter like sarah here saying look i mean a i don't know if that's her

00:33:18.840 name you know she's got to post anonymously obviously because there's real chance of actual

00:33:24.480 backlash in these communities that still have to live cheek by jowl with their abusers right so

00:33:30.000 anyway she uh she gives us a harrowing harrowing account that of course we've all i assume in this

00:33:37.340 sphere we're all aware of so i'm not going to linger on that too much um but then you get the denialists

00:33:43.600 right and now ella kobane here was one of the worst absolutely one of the worst because she has

00:33:49.700 for years now been denying that this is something to do with the pakistani muslim community which is

00:33:56.580 just impossible um to come to unless you were actually trying to cover up for them and great post

00:34:05.180 here by alma who points out that if you actually read her analysis uh she finds that yeah 40-fold

00:34:12.200 over-representation of pakistani men among perpetrators uh she can't explain this and so

00:34:16.820 she tries to just deny it and pretend that it's not an issue and it's like no it's good that these

00:34:21.760 denialists have been held up and pilloried over this absolutely pilloried this is disgusting like

00:34:27.980 why is she in defense of the pakistani community when they're raping english girls she is an english

00:34:36.380 woman yeah like come on and again there's something i always come back to when i find myself getting

00:34:41.180 extremely heated and worked up about these things is how history will remember these people because i

00:34:45.580 have absolutely no doubt that this that justice will be served on this particular issue and i and

00:34:49.980 and and you you know in 100 200 years time you will read the name dr ella kobane as a as a collaborator

00:34:55.980 as a as a as a you know a suppressor um you know i think collaborator collaborator is the right

00:35:01.160 yeah someone complicit in all of this yeah yeah absolutely absolutely anyway you've also got

00:35:06.220 uh helen braley here uh who of course uh denied the asian grooming gangs and the pakistani muslim

00:35:13.420 grooming gangs uh as uh jacques paper point out here the current obsession with asian sex gangs

00:35:19.020 quote unquote focuses too narrowly on one dimension to this crime making the emergent profile profile of

00:35:24.900 pakistani groom misleading she's now a deputy director in the home office so britain is being run by the

00:35:31.760 people by the collaborators by the collaborators by the people who literally are the inheritors of the

00:35:37.940 blairite project to bring in this community to rub our faces in diversity and then to cover up this

00:35:44.500 community's crimes against us and it's no coincidence that this community votes 90 for the labor party

00:35:51.360 is no coincidence and the collaborators are in government the architects of these people i just

00:35:57.300 don't know how you know surely this woman has a niece maybe even a daughter of her own she was a

00:36:01.780 girl herself she was a girl herself how can you look in the mirror after saying things like this

00:36:05.580 after looking at the facts of the matter yes but just these these it's so treacherous that again i i

00:36:12.420 try not to think about it i'm just thinking about the good that is coming out of this which is the

00:36:17.320 americans thank god with their huge profiles just like raining down fire on them and again i will not

00:36:23.520 hear criticisms of elon musk on this particular subject at the very least right uh elon uh again

00:36:28.860 just to point out the country is run by the people who are behind all of this right keir starmer

00:36:33.420 jess phillips this woman helen braley like the country is run by these people and uh again

00:36:40.100 there's the ella kobang one but um her own research found that you know 96 of the rape gang offenders

00:36:46.340 were non-white and 80 were pakistani and her conclusion was look look guys there's nothing to see here

00:36:51.140 well i think something that is important to note here right is the entire you know liberal

00:36:55.720 project the entire project of multiculturalism is founded on the notion that there is no such

00:37:00.580 thing as groups basically yeah when when the rubber hits the road everyone's an individual

00:37:04.100 and so if you are able to draw group you know uh judgments about groups on the basis of what the

00:37:09.540 majority of that group well sorry not the majority of that group um significant a significant portion of

00:37:14.160 that group does if you're able to notice trends and patterns of behavior and if you then draw a

00:37:19.240 conclusion that maybe there's a problem in the pakistani community in britain with raping you

00:37:22.640 know young english girls then that then the entire rest of the project falls apart yeah because because

00:37:27.340 then all the other assumptions you know that that is uh that that that's built on you know they just

00:37:31.600 collapse it's also built on the idea that there's no moral distinction between these groups but i'm

00:37:36.200 sorry i think there are enough cases at this point when you have grooming gags operating in 24

00:37:40.660 plus different cities and it's always the same pattern it's always the same kind of man

00:37:45.340 and you just some of the stories where like oh a girl like 14 year old girl is raped goes to a

00:37:50.960 police station but raped by a pakistani man goes to a police station the police don't know go away

00:37:55.880 and then she's raped on the way home by a different pakistani man you said look there is an ethical

00:38:01.700 problem yeah with this community the very nature of the their ethical system has to be the thing that

00:38:07.860 we're questioning yes right like i just the amount of like ones where it's like oh yeah these three

00:38:13.940 friends got together and then applied a 12 year old with drugs and ripped i'm like i can't even

00:38:19.740 imagine having a conversation like that with any of my friends i was like look i've got some drugs

00:38:23.940 there's a 12 year old over there she's vulnerable what are we doing guys and they'll be like what do

00:38:27.180 you mean the hell do you mean i'm like oh yeah good point i probably shouldn't have said that out loud

00:38:31.420 you know but no apparently this is something completely common in this community it's like that

00:38:36.680 has to be talked about and i've got to say as well just in terms of the the uh attitude of some

00:38:41.520 people you know some of the native british on this issue i mean i have friends who i've had

00:38:45.040 conversations with when when the topic of politics comes up who are just completely unable to escape

00:38:49.760 you know what i would call the mind prison of relativism where they cannot draw they cannot

00:38:53.520 bring themselves to draw distinctions between groups because you know for fear of whatever being

00:38:58.100 called racist or you know not being liberal enough or whatever else because and i point to these things

00:39:02.240 i say you know look at the grooming games for example look at cultures where cannibalism is normal

00:39:06.440 is that worse or better than what we are and they'll say well it's just it's just different

00:39:10.460 it's not better okay but even then on that note okay yeah it is different yeah am i allowed to have

00:39:14.980 a preference and of course i'm allowed to have a preference so i prefer ours to theirs right they

00:39:19.120 can prefer theirs over there as much as they want not my problem you know in papua new guinea or something

00:39:24.240 where they're being cannibals i don't care as long as they stay over there not my problem in you know

00:39:28.940 in my country in my culture i have a preference for mine i'm totally allowed to have it

00:39:32.600 and our preference deserves to be the predominant one anyway carrying on elon musk just hammering

00:39:38.400 this hammering this constantly there must be accountability and again why have police allowed

00:39:44.100 the grooming and rape and murder of british children for over 40 years great question why

00:39:48.180 and this keeps going because of course uh jess phillips decided when asked to reject a couple of

00:39:55.300 days ago uh uh the government a call for a government inquiry into the grooming gang scandal she

00:40:00.380 wanted just kick it down to oldham council now the councils have been deeply involved in this scandal

00:40:06.980 in the cover-up itself not that i think anyone in the labor party wouldn't also be involved in the

00:40:11.840 cover-up but the point is that's a morally irresponsible thing to do we're going to say

00:40:15.500 the people who oversaw the grooming gangs are going to be responsible for interrogating the grooming

00:40:20.340 gangs no i don't think so and so elon musk's response to this was shameful conduct throw her out

00:40:27.220 and send her to prison

00:40:29.120 happy 2025 yeah this is a great start 2025 i mean i was like there's going to be a meltdown

00:40:39.600 over this and uh elon musk he actually replied to my tweet and then some other people's tweets on this

00:40:45.380 because i mean oh yeah there we go good

00:40:48.060 like this is the kind of energy i want 2025 to be met with yeah right like throwing our political

00:40:56.060 opponents in jail for allowing children to be raped and the the richest most followed man in

00:41:00.960 the world is like yeah good that's that's the way things should be but for you personally right

00:41:05.460 this must be an incredibly satisfying moment because you're you're someone who's been called

00:41:09.560 every name under the sun for many years at this point for basically speaking the truth about issues

00:41:13.440 like this and it must be incredibly you know gratifying to actually have this recognized by some

00:41:18.240 of the most powerful people in the world who may actually have the means to actually do something

00:41:21.400 about it yeah no it's it's it's that that's why i'm having trouble suppressing the smile the subject

00:41:26.300 itself is unbelievably macabre but the fact that we're getting some motion on this again at the

00:41:32.000 very beginning of 2025 is really optimistic portent for me and i'm i'm feeling very very white-pilled

00:41:37.660 about things at the moment yeah um and it's just so nice to see them actually yeah because the great

00:41:42.620 thing about this is there is just no counter-attack from the left there's nothing they can counter

00:41:47.240 anything they say is going to be construed because it is as a defense of the rape of children

00:41:52.980 as it should be exactly and that's exactly what it is and so you've got just elon just going so hard

00:41:59.340 again just people equivocating equivocating on tv oh well you know oh you know the director of public

00:42:06.020 prosecutions here and elon must like what a pathetic cuck throw him in prison too love it this is the

00:42:11.380 right energy this is exactly the right energy and uh like you've got just people all over going like

00:42:17.460 you know they want children's capital of culture in like 2022 as well um which is just grim it's like

00:42:25.300 right and you know and you know that was a conscious decision you know why they're doing it yeah you know

00:42:29.880 why they're doing it they are trying to paper over the the festering wound and it's not gonna it's not

00:42:35.880 gonna work because now we have like we the the the british right with this particular moral issue

00:42:43.560 we have international backing now on you know in the most just the biggest megaphones in the world

00:42:50.220 and we have mps can we very quickly just real quick go back to that previous one look at those two

00:42:55.020 words there for everyone for everyone got us here yeah for everyone gives you grooming things can we can

00:43:00.500 we not do it for the children yeah actually you know for them but um but yeah we we've not only

00:43:06.360 got the the eye of the most rich and powerful men in the world but we also have mps in this country who

00:43:11.580 actually are getting it now rupert lowe as you can see i've said is by long by a long way the best

00:43:18.060 politician in britain he he posted we should also be ferociously pushing to deport family members of

00:43:26.000 these men who were aware of their heinous crimes their husbands fathers brothers and sons

00:43:30.480 were committing on young british girls they knew about it and did nothing out gone deported and

00:43:35.920 never allowed back and someone's like well the whole communities in those areas would have been

00:43:40.300 aware and rupert just replies with then so be it good they they knew they all knew and they did

00:43:49.020 nothing and in fact in many cases they decided they would cover up for their family members because

00:43:53.100 for them the tie to that family member was more important than the justice that was the injustices that

00:43:59.360 being committed and the need for justice like it's it's not on yeah i mean two quick points i mean

00:44:05.200 one in terms of the covering for family members not to uh you know go into dangerous waters here but

00:44:11.200 let's not forget about the fact that many in the pakistani community are married to their cousin

00:44:14.580 and so there is a greater degree of you know interwovenness in these communities because

00:44:19.300 you know that's the way that these uh these people operate and the second thing

00:44:22.860 just in terms of what you were saying before about how you know you go to your mates and say

00:44:26.740 oh lads i've got this girl blah blah blah i remember a couple of years back reading a story

00:44:30.320 about how there were other school children involved boys would come in in their school uniforms

00:44:35.080 and rape the girls think of that think about that i try not to yeah but it's it's one of those

00:44:41.400 things where it's just like i don't know anyone that i could bring that proposal to right i don't

00:44:46.300 i know that every single friend in fact every friend i've ever had would look in horror

00:44:51.440 yeah if that was the police on you yeah we absolutely they would call the police and rightly

00:44:55.260 so well when that's come out of my mouth and so the fact that this is just so normal in these

00:45:00.440 communities so your face is just like the fact that it's so normal like rupert is completely on

00:45:10.340 the money here there needs to be an accounting for this and i'm sorry it goes beyond just the

00:45:16.400 individual men who were involved in the gang themselves because again they had customers

00:45:21.780 they had friends and family members who all knew all about this this is a this congenital problem

00:45:26.760 with the community yeah anyway let's uh let's get some comments so i've been loads in yes

00:45:31.700 matt says elon's posted uh for britain to free tommy robinson yeah i know i had it i had it

00:45:37.900 uh big prick says i believe that what sparked the lprg chatter on twitter on yeah so lprg i think

00:45:46.080 they should be renamed from grooming gangs to uh labor's pakistani rape gangs yeah right because

00:45:51.320 labor brought them in they vote for labor labor protected them and they brought them specifically

00:45:56.740 to do this it seems so yeah lprgs um uh was the release of the transcripts from the court cases

00:46:04.260 related to the gags i just want to give uh max tempers uh big credit on this he's been really

00:46:08.720 hammering this point and making sure the um correct sort of excerpts have been getting out

00:46:13.560 to to get it in people's faces max has been doing superb job i was wondering if those transcripts

00:46:18.380 have been only recently released or people have just picked them back up again so if they've been

00:46:21.840 recently released that makes sense of it scanline says what's your opinions on the elon being

00:46:26.080 against this but pro importing people from these cultures to do work and saying it's di to be

00:46:30.680 in case that i'm not going to rehash it it's too much work uh take the winds where you can get

00:46:34.960 them i say um ryan says fellow british men i urge you to hit the gym build your strength and

00:46:40.280 prepare for the future stand steady to protect your families and uphold our values you know what's

00:46:44.200 interesting is that um peter bogosian pointed out that you know a lot of muslim men do like

00:46:50.220 martial arts training sure yeah yeah for a reason so be aware it's because it's a culture that

00:46:55.320 actually does value strength for for the rest of its faults but also they realize that they're in

00:46:59.720 um a different country and things might happen regarding the the scan lines one can i give my

00:47:08.000 opinion on that if you want yeah um this is perhaps controversial uh but i uh believe that we're being

00:47:14.860 butted up uh by elon i believe that this is you know good things might come of it until there is

00:47:21.620 actual action until somebody like elon or trump is actively putting pressure on the uk outside of

00:47:28.360 tweets outside of words to affect change on this um i don't see what it's doing other than just

00:47:36.420 winning people back around to elon after he had an almighty crash out uh on christmas last week

00:47:42.420 because i even made the joke at the time which was that elon's going to have to post interesting

00:47:48.000 under a lot of racist posts to win the to win us back over and lo and behold what is it that he is

00:47:54.660 literally doing because one of the other things that i can imagine that this would be if i were

00:47:59.800 to be a cynical and conspiratorial man not that i've ever been known to be either of those things

00:48:04.320 um you're not a cynical person why would you act like that um would be that i'm there's there's a

00:48:11.880 there's a suspicion in me that this is going to be entirely transactional because i agree that uh

00:48:17.640 elon said explicitly last week that he would go to war with people over the h1b debacle uh he that

00:48:25.640 is something that is absolutely necessary for him and his worldview which is the importing of skilled

00:48:33.440 workers from across the world into western nations which i do not think is a good thing i do not think

00:48:39.620 these people are actually skilled or bring value to our countries we'll get into similarly uh calling it

00:48:45.240 dei for people native to the west to say that they don't want to be invaded and depopulated from

00:48:52.620 their own countries i think is some of the most uh disgusting and scummy use of rhetoric that i've

00:48:58.920 ever seen with this so my worry is that this is going to be entirely transactional and that you're

00:49:04.180 going to get the punishment for the grooming gangs which is great i'm all for that in exchange for

00:49:10.660 infinity skilled migrants into your country and the one will put out the flame of the other

00:49:17.360 maybe i mean we already get the infinity migrants anyway so i'm not that nothing changes on that i i'm

00:49:23.460 personally a bit more sympathetic because i get the feeling that essentially elon is kind of speed

00:49:28.900 running uh the experience i had right from like 2015 onwards um and it is difficult to

00:49:36.420 lose the to break free of the spell of liberalism it is difficult to do that it's it's emotionally

00:49:44.440 difficult and morally difficult but he's definitely on that trajectory yeah and it's i there's no point

00:49:51.860 being a purist about things because essentially that comes down to vanity oh i wouldn't i wouldn't

00:49:57.440 i wouldn't say i'm being a purist on this i'd say i'm being very skeptical i know and i appreciate

00:50:02.140 that uh but that my my point being is i think that he's under a lot more pressure than your eye

00:50:09.060 and he's coming to an inflection point that's difficult to get through you were never a liberal

00:50:15.320 right so you don't for a very short time when you say that it's difficult to pull the liberal scales

00:50:20.480 from your eyes i will resort with for men of a certain age yes right yeah for gen excess like me

00:50:26.460 yeah right it is a difficult thing because you were raised in the culture where there was just no

00:50:31.060 other way of thinking about the world right it was completely normal it was you know this this is

00:50:35.620 it'd be like a boomer condemning winston churchill in a way right and so i mean i find it difficult i

00:50:41.880 find it strange that elon still holds this views being a south african but you know you know he's also

00:50:47.720 uh an international man sure but the the the point being what i think his outburst was was

00:50:55.440 essentially the kind of final retrenchment of the liberalism in him and i don't think it i don't

00:51:00.840 think it won the battle right in the same way that it didn't with me either because i i must have

00:51:06.000 said something very similar to woes back in like 2017 2018 and it didn't win that battle then right

00:51:11.720 and woes i am sorry oh my god someone's gonna clip that they're gonna send it to him he's gonna be

00:51:23.020 thrilled that's why i'm saying it right but the i went through something very similar and i think elon's

00:51:28.480 going through something like that and i think i recognize this because i'm that kind of gen xer

00:51:32.840 like he is right and so i'm being a lot more forgiving now i'm not going to say you can't be

00:51:36.900 right it could be entirely cynical and i might be wrong right i i i hope that you're right yeah i

00:51:43.040 know and i hope because elon is in far greater a position of power than we will ever be especially

00:51:49.600 having the ear of trump himself to affect positive change on this but this recent outburst alongside

00:51:57.440 other statements that he's made over the past few years and sadly also statements that trump

00:52:02.820 himself has made over the need for enormous numbers of uh skilled migrants to come into the

00:52:09.840 us i am skeptical sure and it's not wrong to be skeptical or anything like that but i don't think

00:52:16.700 we need to be unforgiving on these things um binary i'm gonna i'm gonna skip your comment i'm afraid

00:52:21.480 you know you know why i'm gonna skip your comment

00:52:24.560 um an evil zombie toe says uh what happened in rotherham and other places is vile both the

00:52:32.980 perpetrators and the government are covered up it's being rehashed now what unless it induces change

00:52:36.820 nothing ever happens well that's the thing it it the beginning of the change is this i think yeah

00:52:42.720 you know nothing can happen unless it comes to the forefront of our discourse and for elon musk to

00:52:49.940 to really keep nailing this uh on the people who deserve it is a genuine service and it's a

00:52:56.860 and it has attracted the attention of people with actual power like mps you know i mean like obviously

00:53:03.020 low who you you know all of the for us yeah all of the reformers yeah well jenrik jenrik was talking

00:53:08.100 about it yeah chemi bade knock so anyway we'll we'll leave that there right so as i said one of my

00:53:17.020 other hats is uh working for a think tank called the center for migration control um and i thought

00:53:21.820 i would do a little roundup of some of the research that we've done in 2024 um i think that 2024 is

00:53:28.420 going to be remembered as being the calm before the storm as as an eventful year it was an eventful

00:53:32.860 year we had the riots of course we had the election of trump but actually i think that you know the next

00:53:36.840 10 years are gonna you know they're gonna be some of the craziest in living memory i really do believe

00:53:42.160 that in due in no small part to some of the things that i'm going to talk about today

00:53:45.280 with regards to immigration um but first of all i just want to run through some of the key

00:53:50.200 statistics around immigration for 2024 it's going to be a statistic heavy segment i'm afraid so uh

00:53:55.100 so strap in goods have all the information in one place yes so total immigration to the uk in 2024

00:54:00.640 was 1.2 million that's uh gross so that's 1.2 million new people um 80 to 90 percent of which

00:54:06.940 are from non-eea countries coming into britain um which is down to be fair from the 1.32 million in 2023

00:54:13.340 but it's still um you know historically unprecedented levels of demographic change well until the numbers

00:54:19.300 are revised well that's now that's actually like three million people but that's a city the size of

00:54:24.080 birmingham every single year yes yes um and the the four most common uh countries that migrants came

00:54:30.020 from were india pakistan china and nigeria okay so these are countries with very very little in common

00:54:35.280 with ours right in terms of their you know just their view of the world and their lifestyles

00:54:39.200 um so uh yeah so eu nationals accounted for only 10 percent of total immigration and i recognize that

00:54:45.200 historically people have had problems with eu nationals as well but if it were up to me i would

00:54:49.420 take eu nationals over non-eea nationals any day of the week because whatever you want to say we share

00:54:55.060 a greater degree of cultural proximity with people in europe than we do i have met quite a few perfidious

00:55:00.120 polls though well fence polls i love you but still quite a few on the dole yes so of the 1.2 million

00:55:05.780 2.8 uh 280 000 were work visas right so these are your supposed skilled workers um however

00:55:12.400 however something worth noting is as our researchers showed um the uh the salary of skilled workers over

00:55:20.040 the last two years has dropped by 10 000 pounds right so so they you know in a lot of cases they

00:55:25.240 aren't even paying what it used to indeed they're not even breaking even when it comes to their

00:55:29.400 contributions and what they take out of the system but we will get to that in a minute um can i have

00:55:33.600 this yeah yeah i'm listening to himself uh remember how to use this there okay good stuff um so yeah

00:55:40.120 and and beyond that 97 000 uh came via asylum applications so this includes the small boats

00:55:45.840 and other forms of illegal migration 432 000 came from study visas um and this is something that is

00:55:52.400 growing in salience the recognition of the fact that we have hundreds of thousands of students coming

00:55:57.080 here also bringing dependents although there was um there was legislative reform on that which you know

00:56:02.040 made it more difficult for students to bring dependents but still still still happens hundreds

00:56:05.380 of thousands it still happens go to oxford bath and you'll see it yes yes yes absolutely just a quick

00:56:11.940 thing on this this is a massive issue because this is literally what's propping up a lot of the sort of

00:56:16.940 um well yeah universities that otherwise wouldn't be profitable yeah yeah um so the yeah so i'm going

00:56:23.800 to get into some of our actual research then um so the first one which we published in february so it

00:56:28.640 does actually mostly pertain to 2023 but it's still very relevant um is economic inactivity

00:56:33.360 amongst migrants aged 16 to 64 which is to say working age right so in 2023 the number of economically

00:56:39.720 inactive migrants aged working of working age reached its highest point in history in recorded

00:56:44.780 history surpassing the 2022 total which was itself a record high so the public sector expenditure this

00:56:50.960 includes students by the way um on economically inactive migrants has been about 36 billion pounds

00:56:57.300 since the start of 2020 okay everyone wonders why we're so poor indeed everything everyone wonders

00:57:01.840 why everything's so expensive why public services don't work as they should and and so forth the

00:57:06.460 next uh piece related is uh the record number of migrants in the uk are not in work so in the

00:57:12.680 second quarter of 2024 there were as many as 1.7 million non-uk nationals either economically inactive

00:57:19.220 or unemployed and so they are they claiming benefits well the pro rata cost of such a huge level of

00:57:24.420 migrant uh worklessness and this doesn't account this this only accounts for them using public

00:57:28.080 services that are available to all of us doesn't account for benefits is 8.5 billion pounds that's

00:57:32.920 your money that's your money it's our money and this is without assuming that a significant portion

00:57:37.600 of those might actually be in work in the black market yes we're only going by what's officially

00:57:42.360 available from places and so on so much that is kept off of the records that you cannot look into

00:57:49.040 on purpose yes indeed so over 70 percent of migrants who arrived in 2023 on a work visa um impose a net

00:57:56.760 cost on the treasury right this and this is crucial to understand because this completely discredits the

00:58:01.560 notion that mass migration is is some way economy economically beneficial for us so this is based

00:58:07.260 on a report put out by the migration advisory committee which is the quango that advises the

00:58:11.880 government on uh migration policy occupied obviously by a bunch of leftists and open borders

00:58:16.880 activists um so uh where are we there we are so 70.6 percent of long-term migrants who arrived in the

00:58:23.720 uk in 2023 via a certificate of sponsorship earned less than the 38 000 pounds needed for them to make

00:58:30.180 a positive economic contribution so once again this is a huge increase on previous years uh because in

00:58:35.600 2022 55 of those using a certificate of sponsorship were set to enter a job in which they would earn less

00:58:41.560 than 38 000 and in 2021 it was 53 so it's a massive increase but simply two-thirds of the migrants that

00:58:48.500 are here are just costing us money it would be better if they weren't here and and and again this whole

00:58:52.680 idea that we need migrants for our economy to function is just total nonsense it's crippling us

00:58:57.180 yeah well whenever i hear the term skilled migration i just think back to that clip of kelly

00:59:02.460 osborne saying well donald trump if you're gonna throw out those mexicans who's gonna be cleaning

00:59:07.600 your toilets and all of her co-hosts go no no don't say that not because really they know that

00:59:13.040 they think she's wrong but really because no you're not supposed to say that but that's not

00:59:16.900 what we're talking about i've got to say i go back and forth on this narrative that we're sold that

00:59:21.040 we need these people because british people don't want to do these jobs i think actually that

00:59:25.180 there is a certain element of the british character that thinks of itself as being above

00:59:28.780 certain types of work to a certain extent maybe that in a way yes but in another way no right so

00:59:34.340 there's if they're paid enough then they will do the work there there is a certain kind of

00:59:38.980 bourgeois uh person who believes that working in service jobs is too menial for themselves

00:59:45.180 sure but most people aren't that person no sure sure you know like a lot of my family's working class

00:59:51.120 like i i used to clean toilets before the minimum wage existed yeah like because i need all the

00:59:56.340 foreigners arrived yeah no it ironically was now you'd be s out of luck sorry to say exactly i

01:00:01.760 wouldn't even be able to get that job but the point is it was a summer job and i needed the money

01:00:05.220 and i was glad to have the money you know what i mean so but it's a it is a chicken and egg thing

01:00:09.520 because why import all these foreigners when we have so many lazy teenagers you also don't have

01:00:14.400 to pay them very much either this is a great point because i went to salisbury uh for a little

01:00:18.960 weekend away with my wife recently and it was so weird to have english teenagers serving us food

01:00:23.500 in restaurants yeah which is really bizarre i was like oh my god it's the same experience of going

01:00:27.500 into a petrol station in cornwall and only being english people working there yeah yeah it's like

01:00:32.140 yeah they will actually work if you allow them to do the job yeah yeah but but the point is you know

01:00:37.280 obviously migration represses suppresses wages um which you know it's why it's a kind of chicken

01:00:41.760 and egg thing because if these jobs don't pay enough then english people won't want to do them

01:00:44.960 therefore bring in more migrants blah blah blah all the rest of it um so the the next thing i wanted to

01:00:49.420 just call your attention to actually now this is not our work this is not from the center for

01:00:52.960 migration control but it is the work of people who i would very much encourage everybody watching

01:00:57.140 to go and follow this is two annons juice and aylmer who's already come up today um both very

01:01:02.120 good good boys doing excellent work uh when it comes to data this is a map of the uk um that tells

01:01:07.680 you uh you know in each region what percentage of social housing tenants um are were born outside

01:01:13.560 of the uk so i don't know look at this this is migration facts.com yeah i don't know if you can

01:01:17.820 use that to hover over uh oh well i'll do where do we want to go why don't we go to swindon swindon

01:01:24.780 let's take a look there we go 11.6 there we go so swindon central almost a third of social housing

01:01:34.320 tenants in swindon central were born outside of the uk yeah how insane is that well it makes perfect

01:01:40.100 sense swindon's diversification has been very recent yes uh within the last five years um prior

01:01:47.340 to that swindon had manchester road but that was it yeah um it was very very english town indeed yes

01:01:53.360 well i would encourage everyone to go and check this out because it's very interesting zoom back

01:01:56.720 out again for that uh i just wanted to point out like most maps of bad things in the uk

01:02:02.020 london represents a tumour london is red it's literally a tumour and birmingham is a slightly

01:02:08.940 less big tumour but both will get worse and both will spread yeah well there are areas of london

01:02:14.680 some areas where it's 70 percent well there's there's areas of ealing in london where it's in

01:02:18.760 the order of 75 percent just why we've why are we battery farming foreigners because it's good for

01:02:26.400 the economy it's so preposterous and each of that those social housing situations will represent a

01:02:35.040 case almost certainly like that one that was highlighted by sadiq khan where they go into

01:02:39.600 the house the children are dying because they've got mold all over the place they've taped up the

01:02:45.060 vents because they don't know how to air the place out it's damp it's cold and they complain saying it's

01:02:50.000 our fault yeah yeah so if migrants are not some kind of massive economic boom for the country then you

01:02:55.880 would at least hope that we're bringing in people who are at least learning useful skills that they

01:02:59.880 might be able to bring for our country or or take back to their own in order to make their own better

01:03:03.920 so there's less migration from them blah blah but no only a quarter of new foreign students are

01:03:08.380 strategically important um are on strategically important university courses so less than a quarter

01:03:13.960 of recent foreign students um are on courses that the department for education classifies as

01:03:18.840 strategically important so in 2022 to 23 there were 459 000 foreign students that began a course at a

01:03:25.460 uk higher education institution but only 11 11 000 of those um are on courses that the british

01:03:32.040 government views as important for supporting the nhs engineering technology um and various labor

01:03:36.720 market needs so three quarters of it is frivolous three quarters of it is like you know management and

01:03:42.220 you know project planning whatever degrees degrees that are just like basically fake degrees no

01:03:46.260 offense to anybody studying well it's not even that they're fake degrees but it's like they can do those

01:03:50.060 degrees in their own countries why are they well again it's it's kind of similar to something that i

01:03:53.460 said earlier a lot of what you a lot of university courses are just the university justifying its own

01:03:57.160 existence and we can't forget by the way as well that foreign students are a massive uh financial

01:04:01.900 boom yeah for universities because they charge them three times as much as yeah they're at least

01:04:06.020 double in the universities that i've been in yeah but sometimes more yeah yeah crazy um now we're

01:04:11.980 going to get into the more uh truly you know obviously harmful elements of migration because we've we've you

01:04:18.280 know we've addressed the economic side which is very important and kind of impoverish yeah speaks for

01:04:22.540 itself the economic side but migrants uh our research shows are disproportionately more likely

01:04:28.320 to commit crime so the foreign born arrest rate is 34 percent higher than that of the british born

01:04:33.100 population in 2023 there was one arrest of a british national per 94 people however for foreign born

01:04:39.060 nationals this rate surges to one in 70 so we are bringing people here who are not an economic benefit

01:04:44.160 they are not um you know they are they are criminal more to a greater degree than the native population

01:04:49.360 they are not doing anything useful um so and and they are living occupying housing that could be

01:04:54.740 occupied by by native british people so that's not it's not just housing it's all the infrastructure

01:04:59.280 yes all of it you had to get the train here didn't you yeah how was that yeah it was yeah it was

01:05:04.300 crowded and uh full of people that yeah very loud overpriced yeah uh yes very much so yes but that then

01:05:11.240 brings us to this final piece of research which is that 49 percent of the british public want to see a

01:05:15.920 freeze on all non-essential immigration and that's a that's zero that's gross zero right um so new

01:05:21.860 polling that's not even the ones who are like yeah i think it should be lower yeah no no that's probably

01:05:25.720 another like 20 or 30 percent on top yes yes and it's important to note by the way that 76 percent of

01:05:30.300 2019 conservative party voters uh believe that uh britain should freeze all immigration all immigration

01:05:36.140 so conservative party i mean i don't know what the conservative party is doing i don't know

01:05:39.380 i mean yeah i mean it that's that's another another topic entirely but if you look at their base as

01:05:44.940 much as they may have voted for someone like kevin badenock there is still people in there who

01:05:48.580 who actually do have their head screwed on because they're saying that you know we need to stop all

01:05:52.240 immigration so to conclude i would say that as we know right there is no credible arguments left

01:05:58.740 in favor of mass migration the economics you know that's done it's clearly a net negative it's

01:06:03.360 impoverishing us it's making life more difficult it's making it more difficult for young people to buy

01:06:06.880 a house and start a family it's making rent more expensive it's making you know it's making public

01:06:10.660 services less efficient it means you can't get a place in schools the roads are more crowded the public

01:06:14.560 uh transport is more crowded it's making everything in that regard worse but even if it could be shown

01:06:19.740 that mass migration was in some way economically beneficial to the uk let's assume that it did

01:06:24.500 actually raise the gdp or whatever nonsense we are fed it still wouldn't make it right still

01:06:29.560 wouldn't make it acceptable because of the other effects that it has now obviously i focus today

01:06:33.960 and you know the center of migration control focuses on quantitative research because it speaks for

01:06:38.900 itself and it's very easy to use um in you know in parliament for example um but actually i think

01:06:44.600 what we read where the conversation really needs to go now now that these arguments are completely

01:06:48.660 discredited is to the qualitative side because moral question of dispossession dispossessing our

01:06:53.980 children and grandchildren yes of the country that my generation inherited exactly yes yeah i actually

01:07:00.020 put out you know shameless self-promotion i put out a video today which i would encourage everyone to go

01:07:04.020 and watch talking about how british values is just a nonsense concept and it is actually essentially a

01:07:08.580 political construct designed to justify mass migration and multiculturalism because we're told

01:07:12.980 that to be british it means you just believe in democracy and tolerance of different faiths and belief

01:07:17.340 and liberalism and and all the rest of it and it just doesn't because these people that are being

01:07:21.600 brought here are not british they are not us um they are the consequence of you know either

01:07:27.040 misguided let's be charitable misguided or actively malevolent government government policy

01:07:31.540 um and obviously we've spoken already today about the grooming gangs don't need to go back into that

01:07:35.100 so i mean all of this is to say that mass migration has been a disaster for the british isles they are

01:07:39.800 one it's it's one of the most you know evil things that have ever been done to our people um and

01:07:45.260 however with that being said i do think that the the uh the discourse is really seriously beginning to

01:07:51.320 shift on this i think there are serious voices in the mainstream in the center who are actually

01:07:55.760 bringing some of these issues uh to to mainstream kind of consciousness which is good because it needs to

01:08:00.560 happen i do think that it is basically inevitable that this is addressed as with the grooming gangs

01:08:05.100 um but you know it takes people who are prepared to have these conversations uncomfortable

01:08:09.960 conversations because a lot of normal people they have jobs they have families to hold down

01:08:13.020 they have mortgages to pay they don't want to go out and dissent against the state line on these

01:08:16.520 things it can be risky but you know people have to do it so um i hope that this has been useful

01:08:21.240 uh for viewers i hope that you can take some of the statistics that i have uh cited today you can go

01:08:25.420 on the center for migration control dot com website to see all of our research all the links will be

01:08:29.880 in the notes for the yeah that too but this isn't even all the research we've done this year this is

01:08:33.620 just the ones that i've chosen to highlight so i'd encourage you to go take a look because it's uh

01:08:37.020 very interesting stuff very useful again when you're trying to win over family friends colleagues

01:08:40.920 to our position on these matters um because really i think the data just speaks for itself

01:08:45.640 wind pill seeker says i don't want any work visas from any country most white outsiders vote as lefty

01:08:55.200 as any other outsider i don't care if they are played or polka dotted scots or irish stout every

01:09:00.340 color of the usa uh to be honest with you that i'm very much the same it's not it's not i don't like

01:09:04.840 our european friends um i just don't want any more migration at all from i agree yeah i don't care

01:09:11.300 you know i don't want a million australians coming in not i don't love australians it's just look we've

01:09:17.100 had it for 25 years it's got to stop it's just gotta stop it might be a situation where it'd be

01:09:21.660 like the turkish diaspora in germany where that when they when they're voting back home they vote

01:09:25.820 right wing yeah in germany they vote left wing because well the lefties are the ones offering

01:09:30.700 them things as a client group basically any outside group can immediately be used as a client group for

01:09:36.500 subversive parties within your politics so it's funny it's best to just not have them yeah it's

01:09:41.640 funny how that's reflected in uh native leftists as well in the way in which they will you know i

01:09:45.580 was looking into the history of the palestine flag right and it is essentially it's derived from the

01:09:49.160 arab nationalist flag right it is a nationalist it's it's the nationalism of a foreign group and

01:09:54.200 they're prepared to fly that but if it was you know an expression of native british nationalism

01:09:58.180 yeah then then then yeah then they call it they call it far right and all the rest of it but

01:10:02.640 they're prepared to do it for farmers um and uh burn apple tea party says labor spent years creating

01:10:08.860 a native underclass reliant on benefits from the lower end of the forming working class yeah this

01:10:13.480 is what chavs were uh they've kind of disappeared now that the the mass migration has brought an under

01:10:19.160 underclass i still see them about sometimes but maybe that's just the shires well that's the thing

01:10:25.120 the chavs are not really that bad they i find it quite refreshing sometimes yeah but in in the early

01:10:30.620 2000s like oh it's only a white guy who thinks he's black oh okay well kind of yeah it's it's it's

01:10:35.520 a kind of fatherless white guy and it's like okay but he's still english and he's still like

01:10:39.540 marinated in our culture right so so he still knows i could pull a kingsman on you i'll teach you

01:10:45.600 to be a gentle no this is why like you remember when jacob rees mogg at university a few years ago

01:10:50.200 was accosted by antifery and he just marches up to them and his they were like well they're british

01:10:54.260 yeah so yeah i know that's true right they're a bunch of pussies don't worry he was saying they're

01:11:00.540 civilized basically but when jess phillips is uh winning the mp uh race and is accosted by a bunch

01:11:09.340 of muslim men you know i was like okay that she's actually in danger yeah right she's there is not

01:11:14.580 the guarantee of anything there and so genuine concern um but uh lake wanderer says thank you for all

01:11:22.280 the work always appreciate the opinions on american politics and culture as well as your own cheers

01:11:25.620 well thank you very much uh wimpelsey says happy new year great start for the new year um believe it

01:11:29.720 or not it actually is a great start for the new year um so really really good stuff um and thanks

01:11:35.300 coming on to just give us all those statistics that's been a great pleasure it's always fun it's

01:11:39.680 always important to to make sure that everyone knows these things there are people out here doing

01:11:43.540 good work collating all the stuff together so the evidence i've got to say there is there is a

01:11:48.220 network of people out there that i am kind of you know within um who are really trying to bring this

01:11:53.700 data into public to public attention and some of it is through the anon guys like the people i mentioned

01:11:57.940 in my segment juice and so on um but this this actually does go up to mps in parliament right

01:12:02.600 there are people who are having conversations with people like me um about this sort of thing um and

01:12:08.420 and that is you know it's only a good thing yeah yeah now you watching from home are better equipped

01:12:13.200 to argue with people at the pub indeed and you should be right because the pubs are important

01:12:18.220 yes making sure we have the pubs is important let's go to the video comments

01:12:21.820 i've selected selected mine already i'm not going to say them but they are like super traditional

01:12:30.020 because we need to fight back against the rising tide of muhammad so in the spirit of the season i wanted

01:12:35.660 to share some wholesome content my wife and i are also big fans of traditional names albeit we didn't go

01:12:41.520 with an anglo-saxon one what's your name uh sappy what's your full name

01:12:48.680 nice if we had a boy i was going to name him vlad

01:12:54.240 very hellenic name there still gutted and my wife wouldn't let my second son be called alfred

01:13:04.240 why not alfred alfred's a great name because for her i know i think it's a great name too

01:13:10.140 all right all right we'll compromise ethel red uh well yeah i that's exactly in the end i had to

01:13:15.660 compromise on alexander which is a fine name i like i've managed to win i've won my fiancee over

01:13:20.860 to arthur which oh that's oh yeah superb let's go to the next one you want a conspiracy theory

01:13:27.400 can we turn up i'll give you a conspiracy theory

01:13:31.420 have you not seen this before

01:13:38.860 all right i have seen that around on the internet in dad spaces i hope the come down wasn't too harsh

01:13:50.660 after that californian as many as one million white english children may have been the victims

01:13:58.180 of muslim rape gangs british muslim male is 170 times more likely to be part of a sex grooming gang

01:14:05.740 than a non-muslim and there are no recorded instances of non-muslims doing this to muslim girls

01:14:11.560 as part of a criminal enterprise in one local jurisdiction it was estimated that six out of

01:14:17.080 seven muslim males either knew about or were part of a grooming gang no one wanted to be called a

01:14:23.260 racist i mean that's all true this is the thing i mean there are areas of this country that you can

01:14:29.260 walk around and as you walk past people in the street you can think you might actually you might

01:14:34.020 actually know someone or be involved in this kind of thing you know i i went to um birmingham because

01:14:38.660 the i'm sorry to hear that yeah i know isn't it tragic when you get to those parts of the city that

01:14:45.300 still look nice where they've got big beautiful old like victorian edwardian buildings i mean it's

01:14:51.080 not really that kind of place oh no it's it has a few around the city center mainly the old civil

01:14:56.500 service buildings the bullring is just the worst building ever made yes it's just literally an

01:15:01.200 attack on the human psyche yeah but when a few years ago um before started this john and i went to

01:15:07.860 interview the muslim dads i remember we don't want the woke stuff in the schools which obviously we agree

01:15:12.320 with and just getting to their house was actually kind of scary because there were literally just

01:15:17.700 clock just you know clusters of muslim men just stand around and they'd watch us go past because

01:15:22.720 obviously neither john or i were pakistan yeah so it was just like you know they would just stare

01:15:27.360 us we drove past i was like jesus christ john john was like yeah let's lock the doors it was genuinely

01:15:32.500 quite worrying yeah that's gone my mom wanted to make gingerbread houses this year but i've never done

01:15:41.380 it and i decided i wanted to go big or go home so i ended up making this

01:15:48.340 took a lot more time and effort than i thought it would but i think it turned out pretty well for

01:15:55.940 first time making a gingerbread house yeah that's great thanks guys and merry christmas

01:16:03.220 my younger son would have been thrilled with that if there's any time for diabetes it's christmas

01:16:09.000 that's very true yes john says i was randomly looking through charles uh charlie's twitter

01:16:13.880 this morning thinking we'd be good to see him on losis again so soon uh so this is a very pleasant

01:16:18.880 surprise uh and any episode with harry deserves top tier on the base tier list the subscriber is doing

01:16:24.680 is always good thank you very much al same says uh ai same uh says welcome back hope everyone had

01:16:30.220 a merry christmas and a happy new year and has come back full of vim and vigor for starting off

01:16:34.560 a banger of a year also carl was a great episode of tom woods much better than one years ago i'd love

01:16:39.820 to see you do dave smith's show uh part of the problem um i'd be more than happy to of course

01:16:44.600 um calm rob says there was only one youtube video on the channel where he sat down explaining his

01:16:50.860 work history that was posted to poll tonight but probably scrub now that'll be

01:16:54.040 jubba jubba yeah umar says new year seems to have uh seems to have a self-fulfilling

01:17:01.640 self-fulfilling prophecy aspect people just don't just expect something crazy but once see something

01:17:08.320 change even if they have to do it themselves still basic terrorism is so common as to be mundane it'll

01:17:13.100 be difficult to ever top the sewer tunnel jews that was an amazing story at the beginning of last year

01:17:18.780 but who could have imagined i think it took a week or two for that story to come out into 2024 so we've

01:17:24.440 still got a few weeks of the first month so you know hold out things might things might get spicy

01:17:31.820 i like how crusader-y the beginning of 2025 has been yeah this is good good important if there was going

01:17:38.640 to be anything that was the tunnel jews for new york i was joking about this with josh would be

01:17:43.840 um uh tunnel hindus the elon in his plan to come out of spacex yeah his tunnel his tunnels under la

01:17:51.740 to alleviate traffic he was actually tunneling to india the whole time for skilled visas

01:17:56.380 garlic goblin says i see harry described the barriers as bollards of peace it's a great term

01:18:01.680 i saw someone the other day referring them referring to them as the pillars of islam

01:18:06.340 which i thought was genius yeah that's a good one yeah someone online says uh if only there's some

01:18:12.020 pattern to these attacks that we could use to foresee and prevent further attacks yes if only

01:18:16.860 bor of albion says i had to explain to an american friend asking how there wasn't more rage and riots

01:18:22.300 in response to the rape gangs and talking and talking to them about the legitimate use of classism

01:18:26.060 that is complicated things so much of the middle class refuse to agree with the working class even

01:18:30.900 at the expense of children's lives and innocence so all the labor government has to do to contain the

01:18:35.280 gangs to working class areas uh to near enough ensure the middle class actually never do anything

01:18:41.100 yeah this this is a major issue and people forget that the working class is only about a third of

01:18:46.320 the population of the country so even if they all were to agree on one thing it still wouldn't be a

01:18:51.040 majority and the government is very able to flip the sort of single degree educated blairite middle

01:18:58.260 class against the working class on the basis of essentially just snootiness yeah well you're not

01:19:04.440 these are you it's sad that part of the old if you want to call it social contract of britain for a

01:19:10.440 long time was the sort of uh high low uh of the aristocratic and higher classes again with the

01:19:20.140 working classes against against the snooty middle classes uh and it was with really the destruction of

01:19:26.720 the british aristocracy uh that the middle classes were able to gain an ascendancy because i don't think

01:19:31.180 the aristocracy the old aristocracy uh would have let this happen to the working classes because primarily

01:19:37.340 the working classes were their clients they probably would have drawn their swords themselves

01:19:41.460 yeah but the betrayal of this country is uh far-reaching and never-ending but this is why the

01:19:48.180 bourgeoisie shouldn't be allowed to gain ascendancy stay in your offices stay as middle managers yeah we

01:19:55.100 don't want you doing anything else you've proven yourselves terrible at it but what what yeah no that's

01:19:59.240 exactly it just go and make some money right just don't do anything else just go and make some money

01:20:02.340 and then pay your taxes it is funny just as an aside ever since the uh sort of james lindsey

01:20:06.540 woke right thing happening i've been really leaning into like using words like bourgeoisie and

01:20:10.500 proletariat i mean it's it but it's true but it is accurate it's accurate yeah like marx's

01:20:16.400 complaint the communist manifested wherever the bourgeoisie gains ascendancy they they sunder all of the

01:20:21.520 traditional social mores and bonds i can't remember the exact term he uses i mean that is true

01:20:26.840 and bad lib dem voters yeah exactly yeah and the more interesting like radical if you want to call

01:20:33.460 them that right analysis has always been from people who tend to adopt those sorts of terms

01:20:37.860 anyway i mean jonathan bowden yeah it's called them the bourgeoisie as well because it's just an

01:20:42.620 accurate tip well well i mean the two schools of thought that i've read the most of are basically

01:20:46.680 like reactionaries and marxists and if you read both those you know the crossover there is very

01:20:51.040 interesting obviously the solutions differ well you're just confirming james lindsey's thesis there

01:20:56.100 charlie right watch out you're gonna have a four hour ramble dedicated to you now they're

01:21:00.700 approaching the same issue from different directions the marxists want to destroy things

01:21:03.820 the the right want to preserve things yes it's literally that is the difference so going on woke

01:21:08.860 right it's like okay but what does that mean you know oh you're in favor of not destroying the

01:21:12.480 country i don't know how much time we have we have left but i i really i dislike people who call on

01:21:18.560 the right who call themselves capitalists because i think it's just got such the one the wrong ring

01:21:22.600 about it because that's like that's the one that's the language of your enemies that's the

01:21:25.600 bourgeoisie's tool exactly and two why would you want to have an attitude that's like scrooge mcduck

01:21:30.820 basically that's not a great look is it yeah no that's exactly right okay like i'm all for you

01:21:36.640 know owning property and selling things if i want yeah but like to have an abstract commitment to like

01:21:42.220 a free market so if the free market doesn't i don't care about the free market exactly yeah like if

01:21:47.740 it's not doing its job it's head to serve me i'm not head to it i'll tell you what there is there is

01:21:52.420 a real appetite for a for something like an anti-capitalist right yeah absolutely seriously

01:21:56.880 and i think that that's you're not the british public man is is always been essentially the

01:22:01.160 anti-capitalist right yes because they're very much socially right wing but economically left wing

01:22:06.960 that yeah you know fine we're not we're not for selling out the country actually yeah so it's weird

01:22:11.240 that we've sold out the country i feel like i need to read more into distributism because i have a

01:22:15.200 feeling that that's what you're basically describing yeah yeah yeah um just a quick

01:22:20.380 thing on the uh back to the grim gang to the bore of albion point though um the the reason this was

01:22:25.160 allowed to go on is because it was working class girls and underclass girls uh being raped right if

01:22:30.980 if this had happened to a single middle class family hell would have been to pay right it would

01:22:36.200 have been and they know they know that's the case um anyway someone online says uh if i know i've read

01:22:42.280 them uh russian says uh i do not have an elon karl crossover shit post on day one on 2025 for my

01:22:47.960 bingo card well that's the thing right you know 2025 feels like we've entered a new era yeah and

01:22:53.760 actually anything's on the table and who knows what'll happen so um artemis says is there some

01:23:00.480 correlation between the amplification of the grooming gang scandal and the recent channel 4

01:23:03.400 documentary spotted an advert for the new year the channel 4 documentary is titled something like

01:23:07.420 the fake grooming gang scandal yeah so this is um the one example of where a girl lied about being

01:23:14.480 a victim of a grooming gang in order to get attention and so they leapt on it blew it out of proportion in

01:23:20.540 order to essentially discredit the other to the actual victims and future victims of these grooming

01:23:26.080 gangs in order to preserve the dignity and nobility of the muslim community in britain uh they they go on

01:23:32.620 the list of however much you may hate journalists it's not enough no no you don't understand uh

01:23:37.400 anyway so um brian says elon musk is uh currently the leader of the anglosphere he's doing everything

01:23:43.040 he can to denounce baby castro and sir kirkami uh to be honest that's kind of true um he's taking

01:23:48.640 the moral leadership of all this and so this is why i don't i'm sick of the sort of like little

01:23:53.440 heel nipping anons who are just like oh yeah but he said this i don't know it's like yeah okay fine

01:23:58.500 but he is still doing something useful you know we can talk about that another time in the middle

01:24:04.320 of the attack is actually not the time to start counter signaling you know do it after this is done

01:24:08.980 uh old roy says uh that's feminist logic i know of one case that's different from your

01:24:15.160 generalization therefore your generalization is incorrect so yes that's precisely the and

01:24:21.100 notice how the it's not feminist logic that's woman logic but i repeat myself

01:24:27.620 um but notice how the issue actually it's very much like liberal logic right because you'll notice

01:24:32.520 exactly woman logic in a way in a way but i saw um an old clip of jeremy paxman interviewing tommy

01:24:40.520 robinson oh i saw you share this yeah i noticed how the paxman was just like what you're saying

01:24:44.640 every single one it's like what are we and what paxman is doing here he's not interested in the

01:24:49.360 subject he's interested in the characterization of the subject it's like look if you don't have a

01:24:56.020 perfect characterization then we're not having this conversation at all it's like but that's not

01:25:00.120 how any human interaction works and his his whole role is a propaganda perception judgment yeah that's

01:25:05.520 that's all yeah he was terrible on that he was genuinely he was a twat and i felt like slapping

01:25:10.740 him through the screen and tommy kept his cool on that as well which i wouldn't have done i would

01:25:15.040 have lost it there are huge like you know parts of the media landscape that exist literally just to

01:25:20.840 run cover for this sort of thing you know i i go on uh lbc from time to time and uh it's amazing

01:25:26.480 the way yeah it's it's amazing the way that i've probably got blacklist stuff to you know bring

01:25:31.800 this up oh well but it's the way in which they run cover yeah they in a way try to frame themselves

01:25:36.800 as being somehow fighting the power and like you know speaking out against it's like you oh please

01:25:41.160 foot soldiers of the regime yeah you literally have james o'brien as one of your like premier

01:25:46.640 broadcasters like there's no apparatchik more dedicated than i've i've said this to leftists

01:25:52.620 on broadcasts in the past where you say like do you not realize that you and it's funny when they

01:25:56.920 don't realize they say do you not realize that you are a foot soldier of the current power structure

01:26:01.900 and i am the radical here yeah you are literally in defense of the current government yeah and the

01:26:06.840 current intellectual ruling paradigm that has been in charge for 25 years a guy a guy yeah this guy said

01:26:13.560 to me this leftist guy he said to me like oh well i don't know what you've been reading on the daily

01:26:16.780 mail but this that and the other and i was like mate i'm 23 i don't i don't read the daily

01:26:19.500 what you're actually doing there is like the one the one useful thing that noam chomsky has done

01:26:31.900 which is actually right on ideological power structures being presented through the media

01:26:36.460 and there's that interview it was it with jeremy haxman i know i know right i you're taking useful

01:26:43.440 political analysis from people you disagree with woke woke i red-handed caught me um you are right

01:26:50.420 about this chomsky i'm about to dye my hair blue um no uh it might have been with jeremy paxman himself

01:26:56.820 it was with somebody where the guy where he's talking about the use of the media to present

01:27:02.900 particular opinions and drown out other opinions and they wouldn't let anybody who didn't already

01:27:07.980 hold those opinions uh be in the position of this presenter that he's talking to and he's like

01:27:12.820 so you're just saying that what i'm part of the conspiracy and he says no i'm saying if you

01:27:16.200 believed anything else you wouldn't be sat right there right now yeah and i great it's great i

01:27:21.000 don't like crediting chomsky with anything but that is so on the money yeah that's that's why james

01:27:25.600 o'brien and lbc exist yeah it's so good eloise says hate to admit it or say it but it's only seemingly

01:27:32.020 more liberal leaning women who want to try and show off empathy will do anything to avoid reputational

01:27:36.360 damage being called racist etc uh who consistently green light for migration and widening state services

01:27:41.800 vulnerable groups yeah there is um uh i mean many a joke made of this like liberal women signing

01:27:48.360 release warrants for criminals and then complaining they can't walk the streets at night because it's

01:27:52.340 not safe it's like well you know this is this is why liberal democracy is a feminized ideology

01:27:57.260 because it is the it is the mainstay of the the middle classes and what are middle class men

01:28:03.580 cucks yeah cucks pussies john stewart mill what was it that he what's his same thing what's what's

01:28:10.960 his worst crime is it writing on liberty or utilitarianism no it's cooking to his wife

01:28:17.800 see i kind of seen them being both part of the same problem uh i just hate utilitarianism so much

01:28:25.020 i suppose he might have seen it from a utilitarian perspective well you know if however cucked i am

01:28:30.400 she'll be so much happier so therefore it's a fair exchange uh the proletariat again woke right

01:28:36.880 got you uh says the term non-essential immigration

01:28:40.820 implies there's such a thing as essential migration uh what the hell is that well that's that's what

01:28:48.940 they uh say in order to justify still bringing in people no i i i can think of essential migration

01:28:55.620 is if there's some spaces that need filling in the raj we need we need indian administrators for

01:29:02.480 africa which is actually what happened in standing yes um and a california refugee says

01:29:10.980 there are purely indian enclaves that have popped up in less than three years near me i went on one of

01:29:16.420 my famous nature hikes uh into a place on the edges of nowhere on the weekend and it was jam-packed

01:29:20.940 with indian speaking pajabi and i felt i was in indian not america well that's yeah there's there's

01:29:25.920 like loads of like little british countryside areas that have essentially been taken over that's the

01:29:31.480 thing with the boris wave isn't it yeah yeah it's just it's just this really bizarre experience of

01:29:36.080 being in like you know i uh you know my people i love live in surrey right and i'll visit them

01:29:41.300 from time to time and you'll be walking in you know the countryside the heart of england right

01:29:46.380 the place where the for example the the aliens landed in war of the worlds you know you'll be

01:29:50.880 walking around there and then you'll just see like a group of people from the middle east and it's just

01:29:53.940 like it's just so weird yeah i forget i forget the name of the place but in the peak district there's

01:30:00.000 um there's this river where there's some stepping stones that you can go over it there's like an

01:30:04.980 ancient uh sort of like tourist spot and i went there back in 2021 so this would have been right

01:30:10.700 when people started to notice the boris wave and even then i was looking around going like

01:30:15.240 loads of indians and pakistanis and there was a group of pakistanis just stood right next to the

01:30:22.240 river barbecuing a lamb leg and i'm like what what are you doing this is like a tourist spot for kids

01:30:30.000 to come and go over the stones and have a nice peaceful time yeah that's why we're here yeah

01:30:34.460 like what the hell are you doing here why are you having an open barbecue i can't help it i mean you

01:30:41.080 know it's easy to get pessimistic about these things but i always just come back to the idea

01:30:45.020 the truth i think that in 200 years time this period will be remembered as just like what were

01:30:49.200 they doing you know i i there there is going to be a kind of um a youtube video genre of digging up

01:30:57.760 no no no like of digging up crazy things that happen oh man i've already got a trove of stuff

01:31:03.340 and people like you won't believe that they had an indian prime minister in britain people are like

01:31:08.520 what the hell are you talking about yeah yeah you are right this is gonna i do think it is inevitable

01:31:13.320 that the cycle will get around and everyone like no this is not good and these people need to go

01:31:16.980 yeah basically yeah but uh anyway on that bombshell uh it's time for us to finish uh so uh charlie

01:31:22.680 where can people find more of you if they'd like uh well you can follow the center for migration

01:31:25.820 control uh everywhere go to center for migration control.com to read all of our research so that

01:31:30.020 again you can help your arguments with strong robust data and you can follow me personally at cf

01:31:35.560 downs with an underscore at the end uh everywhere check out my video that i released today about

01:31:39.160 british values it's uh worth it's worth your worth your time i would say if i do so myself because

01:31:43.580 this is a conversation that is only just starting to happen this notion that britain is not an idea

01:31:48.280 britain is a people well this notion that britain is an idea is very new very new well i mean it was

01:31:52.960 actually only ever it was only codified in 2014 by michael gove weird um but yeah but it's only really

01:31:58.860 been i mean it's been since blair but it's it's only really since the conservative i can't reach the

01:32:02.480 knife in my back yeah it's only really since the conservative government that britain has become a

01:32:06.320 propositional nation or the attempt has been made to turn it into one and it's not going to work

01:32:09.840 anyway thanks for joining us folks it's a good start to 2025 i felt actually and we'll see you tomorrow

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - January 03, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1070

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