The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters

00:00:00.000 hello and welcome to podcast of the lotus eaters episode 10,072 on this 10,000 wow that is 1,000

00:00:08.280 1,000 done so many 1,072 on the 6th of january 2025 and this is the uk invasion edition so

00:00:17.180 we're going to be talking about um was it elon musk has been out of the news for zero days

00:00:23.180 and has managed to come storming into the top of the headlines with his uh with his uh latest i'm

00:00:28.320 sick of hearing about him someone else needs to do something notable now well i quite i quite like

00:00:32.820 this intervention this one is quite this one's good yeah i'll give him that it's uh he he may

00:00:38.160 have spotted something the rest of us have spotted a while ago which it is possibly time for nigel 1.00

00:00:42.120 farage to step down gracefully after having achieved a a great deal and also we've got

00:00:48.240 stelios who is going to be talking about the um presidential um freedom from consequences medal

00:00:53.980 i think yes yes thank you and happy new year and i'm glad to be back very good right josh um what

00:01:03.160 what does what does elon be getting up to today so elon musk um previously has called nigel farage

00:01:10.600 to resign right and so that is a little bit left to field i i feel um because it wasn't wasn't that

00:01:17.980 long ago um that he was offering to pay them lots of money about 200 million or something 100 million

00:01:23.240 we'll get to all of this because to understand why he's done this you need to have a little bit of

00:01:28.240 background and basically it's all kicked off after elon musk has been looking at the pakistani grooming

00:01:34.700 gang scandal in the uk and um we're going to be discussing the elon musk versus nigel farage

00:01:41.480 i mean it's a small point of small point of order but i think we've got to get into the habit of

00:01:46.760 calling it the the child rape gang scandal rather than the grooming scandal that works for me

00:01:51.180 yeah um it's just the name that most people know but that is more factually accurate because i mean

00:01:56.540 grooming sort of conjures up images of grooming a horse or you're taking a dog to the dog beautician

00:02:01.940 it's a euphemism isn't it that softens the the vileness of really what we're talking about is is

00:02:08.000 children being raped on a large scale which is which is less appealing than yeah it's one of

00:02:14.160 the most awful things that's ever happened in britain in our history but we are going to be

00:02:18.780 talking about this um i suppose debate between elon musk and nigel farage in a round table and its

00:02:26.420 implications for politics but this will also include uh connor harry and carl and so it's not

00:02:31.900 just going to be our opinions it's going to be all of us so you're going to be able to see uh later on i

00:02:36.000 think about three o'clock uh uk time this will go live so if you're watching this on youtube later

00:02:42.000 we've already gone live and uh you can check out other people's thoughts and in greater detail

00:02:48.420 there but with that out of the way one of the things that elon musk said um just under a week

00:02:54.340 ago now um on the 2nd of january elon musk says uh jess phillips deserves to be in prison over labor's 1.00

00:03:00.780 refusal to launch grooming inquiry and this was quite interesting so he's been on this this grooming

00:03:06.700 gang uh i'm going to continue to call it that just because that's what everyone knows it as yes even

00:03:12.720 though i do agree with what you're saying and he's been on this tirade um against this and i noticed

00:03:19.220 in this tweet starmer was complicit in the r of britain uh youtube doesn't like that word i know

00:03:25.440 you've already said it but still uh when he was head of crown prosecution for six years um starmer

00:03:31.480 must go and he must face charges for his complicity in the worst mass crime in the history of britain

00:03:35.940 which you know very difficult to disagree with that isn't it and it's worth mentioning what he's got in

00:03:42.620 caps there because that very term is the name of tommy the the bad man robinson's uh and that's bad

00:03:50.640 man according to um online censorship he can't even say his name uh that's the name of his documentary

00:03:57.900 about the very same thing so it's suggesting that elon musk has watched this and therefore that is why

00:04:04.880 he's talking about this and it's probably why he's posting things like this free uh tommy robinson

00:04:12.860 so he's been on a bit of a tommy binge it seems uh for better or worse and um he's talking about i

00:04:24.620 know he's in prison for contempt of court uh ffs i'm not going to tell you what that stands for if

00:04:29.700 you don't know um but there is no justification for such a long prison sentence for uh and for

00:04:34.680 solitary confinement and it is worth mentioning as well this was a civil case as well and so it's

00:04:40.120 quite unprecedented that you imprison someone in a civil case let alone put them in solitary

00:04:45.000 confinement for 18 months and so this is um what many people argue is a political uh just just a

00:04:54.560 point of reference on that we recently had a guy convicted of um the rape of a i mean she wasn't even

00:05:01.640 a teenager she was a 12 year old um and this this happened over a 24 hour period and involved about

00:05:08.060 a dozen men and he got three years and he won't be going into solitary no so the sentences handed

00:05:14.780 out to british people who embarrass the state are longer and harsher than people who rape children

00:05:21.860 it seems like it well it is yeah so the labour party's obviously responded to some of these things

00:05:30.740 and we will be getting on to what elon musk and farage have been exchanging on and what people have

00:05:35.100 been saying about it and um it's important to know what has actually been said here as well so

00:05:41.120 here starmer was hitting back at elon musk saying he tackled the grooming gangs head on as chief

00:05:46.980 prosecutor um because he released a statement at 10 a.m this morning at the time of this going out

00:05:52.980 and uh he he said lots of interesting things he also uh starmer in his statement uh said that

00:06:00.100 robinson was currently in prison for jeopardizing for contempt of court of a grooming case which was

00:06:06.520 one of his previous prosecutions but is not why he's currently in prison at the minute and so that

00:06:11.360 was actually factually incorrect which was a bitter irony because of course he later goes on to say that

00:06:16.520 the far right are using misinformation to basically threaten um with violence both himself and jess phillips

00:06:25.480 was the gist of what he was saying in the clip i saw well i think carl is is looking to get into this

00:06:30.540 particular aspect tomorrow but i mean for anyone who missed it i mean basically starmer getting up

00:06:35.840 there and saying that um he wants to go after people who spread lies and the implicit assumption of

00:06:41.920 course is that he is the one who gets to determine yes truth and you're saying as much here as well that

00:06:47.600 he's spreading lies and he spread any described people as poison as well and also if he does this

00:06:54.880 exactly what you said the the end game is silence because the only way to not spread to not risk

00:07:02.960 spreading misinformation is to not speak yeah just let the government determine what is true

00:07:07.180 massive silence i wanted to ask josh something about the first clip you showed from my understanding

00:07:14.700 not necessarily mine but as far as a lot of people are concerned labor is supposed to be the progressive

00:07:20.840 party that cares about women you know all these all minorities let's say or groups that are considered

00:07:28.680 to be minorities at least as far why would let's say jess phillips be against an inquiry on the issue

00:07:34.720 well it's a rhetorical question for me but it's a question that needs to be posed yeah well it's a

00:07:40.540 similar reason as to why the police um in many northern towns covered it up that they're afraid to come

00:07:46.020 across as if they're being racist that's that's fundamentally what it's about they're worried

00:07:50.480 about things coming back to bite them and so they're putting themselves i think there's an even

00:07:55.880 more direct answer on jess phillips in particular yes in her constituency of was it birmingham yardley

00:08:02.160 that's right yeah um she beat out the islamic candidate by less than 700 votes so if she does anything

00:08:09.040 to the islamic community who who stand together they they protect their child rapists um she's going to

00:08:15.620 lose her seat so she so she's the minister for safeguarding but what she's actually safeguarding 1.00

00:08:20.480 is the rape gangs so if i'm if i understand what is being said correctly and what people need to

00:08:28.480 understand is that the left will have to make a choice between groups that they think they can

00:08:34.420 represent i think they made that choice already they've already made it yeah a lot of people a lot

00:08:39.860 lots of people who follow us they know this but we also have a larger audience and that's the issue

00:08:46.000 the the left is constantly talking about how they are representing almost every group but a lot of

00:08:53.220 groups are frequently having clashing interests and to add to what you were saying before if we accept

00:09:00.460 the racism fear interpretation of why the police didn't investigate as much as it should have that

00:09:09.340 means that the police isn't doing its job because the police's job is to enforce the law it's not to

00:09:15.320 well i mean it's a very complicated issue isn't it there are multiple different facets to it and i think

00:09:21.040 ultimately what it was is there wasn't enough of an appetite to make these people see justice

00:09:27.160 justice and that is a serious problem by most people's reckoning and the fact that people are

00:09:32.380 putting their political ambitions ultimately or their career ambitions above justice of small

00:09:38.800 children is about as immoral as it can possibly get right what i was going to say i mean it goes

00:09:43.340 further than that there was uh gordon brown when he was prime minister when this was sort of

00:09:47.640 first starting to happen he sent instructions to police chiefs saying do not investigate this

00:09:53.940 but let's not get too hung up on this because we've discussed this quite a lot we've got lots

00:09:58.880 of stuff on the grooming gangs and it's not necessarily the main focus it is just simply

00:10:03.480 the context in which this happened and of course um well after elon musk criticized uh jess phillips

00:10:10.360 uh wes streeting the health secretary went on and said it was a disgraceful smear so that

00:10:15.280 the labor party have been out to support themselves and as of this morning elon musk has asked the

00:10:20.780 question america should liberate the people of britain from their tyrannical government

00:10:24.640 and of course he's going to be uh assuming government in on the 20th of january and so

00:10:31.260 that's someone in the american state floating the idea that they invade britain yes i responded to elon

00:10:39.560 and said look if you'd follow me back i will happily supply you with a list of high priority targets for

00:10:44.560 your tomahawk missiles and that is why you're tippity top at the minute of the the uh intelligence

00:10:50.640 agency's watch list yes well to be to be fair just in case anyone accuses me of of sort of shilling

00:10:57.500 for the you know american uh military industrial complex i am also open to offers from putin

00:11:02.980 and i've got me i've got mixed i've got mixed feelings about this because if if it's the americans

00:11:08.660 well when the when the sort of troops around they want a budweiser and i don't particularly like

00:11:12.900 budweiser but it would but we share a common language it'd be easier to communicate whereas the

00:11:17.260 russian chaps you know i i've got a whole freezer drawer full of vodka so but i don't speak russian

00:11:22.780 so you know mixed feelings but as long as we get invaded and liberated um i'm i'm not fussed as to

00:11:29.600 as to who exactly does it well um i would rather we not be invaded although if the united states were

00:11:37.040 willing to uh have some sort of uh political intervention that would probably be a good

00:11:40.700 thing but anyway we've beat around the bush enough uh here is what elon musk has said the reform

00:11:46.400 party needs a new leader farage doesn't uh have what it takes and uh yes this came a bit left out

00:11:54.320 of field didn't it i was very surprised to see this but i was it was a surprise but a welcome one i bet

00:12:00.440 farage was surprised he said as much yeah because farage um had sort of been hoping that he was going

00:12:06.220 to get that that 100 billion 100 million yeah um and here's the guardian talking about it in december

00:12:11.320 could 100 million of elon musk's money sway a general election for reform uk and there he is

00:12:16.520 in a picture with nigel farage i don't know if he looks that happy there he doesn't look that happy

00:12:23.380 no musk right he looks like he's been told off a little bit doesn't he um and so he was obviously

00:12:31.100 very pleased that elon musk this is farage um was backing reform and called him a hero

00:12:35.960 which uh didn't age too well because this was on the 3rd of january and of course musk's comment

00:12:45.260 was only two days later and so uh i mean to get a little bit awkward background thoughts from this

00:12:51.060 i mean we'll we'll the lotus eaters have been calling out um farage so we supported him at the

00:12:56.680 general election but we've been calling him out and saying that he's really behind the curve on this

00:13:02.060 stuff um farage's sort of stated policy is to basically appease islam until they take over in 0.66

00:13:08.860 2050 we'll be getting on to that yes but that is the yeah but i just wanted to make the point we have

00:13:14.140 we have been trying to warn farage for a while that you're that you're seriously behind the curve on this

00:13:20.380 stuff and the response was in fact even connor went to the lengths of writing a whole article

00:13:24.860 explaining this and at every occasion we were told to shut up all we ignored in the case of connor's

00:13:30.040 article tice actually commented on this and said that it's garbage now if you're reform you can

00:13:37.420 probably ignore the lotus eaters who are being critical friends and offering helpful advice and 0.93

00:13:43.260 sincere helpful advice is a lot harder to ignore musk especially in musk's case you know you've blown 1.00

00:13:51.140 the opportunity for 100 million well zaya yusuf was able to become party chairman with a 200 000

00:13:57.960 donation 100 million who knows what you must can get for that i mean nigel farage has already shown

00:14:03.500 that he's happy for people to buy access to the party hasn't he so and by the way i i really despise

00:14:10.100 that the the fact that ben habib got stabbed in the back who was a party loyalist popular with a base

00:14:14.980 and you parachute in a muslim uh who donated you money and then all of a sudden your stance on islam

00:14:20.840 is softened i mean well he's not just softened it's appeasement it is we have to appease islam 0.88

00:14:26.280 until they take over in 2050 and it's like well so but you're supposed to be leading a nationalist

00:14:31.020 party and that's that's your policy that's unacceptable but and i mean i i make this broad

00:14:36.300 point as well i mean the reason that the right has so much trouble with this is because especially

00:14:41.960 the boomer cons they have been inculcated in the post-war liberal framework their entire lives 0.73

00:14:49.040 and i'm not picking on boomers i'm just making the point that they got it worse because if you

00:14:53.540 are greatest generation or silent generation you remember well before that time whereas if you're

00:14:58.880 boomer generation you only have the tv and you know the the mainstream press you only got one view

00:15:06.340 forced down your throat in the schools in the media in all of it and you've been inculcated in this

00:15:11.140 thinking and the origins of this thinking is basically that there is something wrong with

00:15:16.800 right-wing thought that is essentially the dark side well it stems from um the frankfurt school

00:15:24.760 psychologization of what caused world war ii and they they tried to posit that there's this

00:15:30.440 authoritarian personality uh that is more prominent in right-wingers and is dangerous and leads to

00:15:36.920 all of these bad things happening when actually um this idea has since been uh debunked with further

00:15:43.480 research and they actually suggested some research at least that it's more prominent this this

00:15:48.960 authoritarian thing which was already written up to attack the right even if you apply it even

00:15:55.160 handedly it it applies more to the left according to one group of researchers than the right and so it's

00:16:00.940 this this very mistaken politically charged uh presentation of of how these events happened but

00:16:07.800 let's not get hung up on that yet well no no no i will i will get slightly hung up on it because

00:16:12.720 i just just wanted to sort of finish my thoughts on this because where farage is coming from

00:16:18.520 is that so the left-wing consensus goes something like this it's all very well calling for traditional

00:16:25.780 family values and low taxes but if you carry on on that route the next thing is you're going to be

00:16:30.720 invading poland that i mean they don't say it is explicitly at that because it's obviously a

00:16:35.820 nonsense when you just come out and say what it is but that is the view that they put across as a

00:16:41.060 result of which what farage does is he takes the classic right-wing perspective which is however far

00:16:47.120 right-wing i am no one can possibly be one inch to the right of me because that's dangerous we need to

00:16:53.200 gatekeep these people out and what this results in is that the left have this huge hinterland around

00:16:58.720 them so they have a huge hinterland of which ideas can spring up to their left and personalities and

00:17:04.200 talent can spring up to their left and then they can look to those and incorporate the good ones

00:17:08.580 which gives them a sort of you know a depth of ideas and gives them a certain amount of dynamism

00:17:13.380 whereas the right as farage has done aggressively shuts down anything one inch to the right of them

00:17:19.440 which means they have no hinterland they have no sort of broader sort of consensus building around

00:17:23.760 them so i mean in my case i was thrown out of reform so i was the winchester candidate for reform

00:17:29.680 and i was thrown out because i advocated a policy that policy later appeared on page three of the

00:17:36.740 reform manifesto at the next general election so not only can you not be one inch to the right of

00:17:42.460 wherever the leader is at any particular time you're not allowed to get there before the leader gets

00:17:47.660 there so that means they are constantly shutting everything down around them and this was the

00:17:52.680 mistake that farage is making we were trying to warn him that the conversation has moved on the

00:17:57.640 conversation is now about re-migration and you're not getting this you're still trying to you're

00:18:02.820 trying to present to people that the reform is basically a version of the conservative party that's

00:18:08.440 been kept in the fridge for the last 25 years and that is not what people want what we need

00:18:13.400 what we want is re-migration and we're trying to warn him but he wouldn't bloody listen 1.00

00:18:18.500 that's very true yeah and i i think that that's a pretty fair way of putting it and in fact my main

00:18:24.280 frustration with farage is that he hasn't learned the lesson from donald trump in that you can drag

00:18:31.000 the overton window rightward by proposing things um and all of a sudden uh the window shifts rightward

00:18:39.100 because it's it's what people are discussing and simply by putting something on the agenda

00:18:43.320 you can make it more palatable to an electorate and if you have a large enough profile which i think

00:18:48.280 farage does you can move the overton window yourself and what he's doing his fatal mistake here and and

00:18:53.920 i'm gonna basically say the same thing as you but explain it slightly differently

00:18:57.560 is he's keeping his rhetoric within the overton window he's keeping it within this respectable window

00:19:03.620 where he's trying to remain sort of on the rails so that he can go to westminster dinner parties

00:19:10.420 and he isn't pushing it to the right as he should be which i think actually could lead to electoral

00:19:16.600 victory because lots of people lots of the people who voted reform are much more to the right than

00:19:23.440 nigel farage is and in many ways um people are seeing him as maybe uh to the right of the

00:19:30.780 conservative party who caused all of this mess in the first place sorry stelios you wanted to

00:19:34.600 you wanted to say something no no i can't finish and sorry you were uh well on your point on the

00:19:40.540 overton window remember that the overton window is a mile to the left of where it was before 1950

00:19:45.640 so from from anyone from you know before the 1950s farage would appear to be a very left-wing

00:19:53.780 individual so of course it is possible to move the overton window he's just too inculcated in this

00:19:59.700 post-war liberal ideology okay i want to ask you something about this because i i want to

00:20:05.500 understand what the criticism is because you know i've been critical of farage as well but i want

00:20:11.520 precisely to understand what the point is because it seems to me that the criticism you're making

00:20:16.600 is ideological and the criticism josh is making is a bit more practical a bit more concerned with

00:20:24.280 practical politics so which is it was both i think i think that because if it's just pure real

00:20:32.360 politique then the ideology is just rhetoric it's completely secondary i i think that in politics

00:20:40.100 a lot of the time ideology is a post-hoc rationalization for doing whatever is in that

00:20:44.980 politician's self-interest and i think that that's part of the reason why people are so cautious around

00:20:49.980 farage now because we've had that with the conservatives already and that's why people are

00:20:53.940 so worried about the direction he's going to go is he going to be another boris johnson that promises

00:20:59.260 to reduce migration and actually massively increases it or at least keeps it at the unprecedented levels

00:21:05.680 that they're already at but here is what farage said um i'm going to quickly go over this well

00:21:12.780 this is a surprise elon is a remarkable individual but on this i am afraid i disagree my view remains that

00:21:19.380 tommy robinson is not right for reform and i never sell out on my principles worth mentioning here

00:21:24.180 elon musk did not talk about tommy robinson at all he says the reform party needs a new leader farage

00:21:30.520 doesn't have what it takes so he's inferred based on elon musk talking a lot about tommy robinson

00:21:35.800 and him and elon thinking well these two people are roughly advocating for the same thing why don't

00:21:41.660 they get along it would be better for them to get along and he doesn't realize that actually

00:21:45.940 farage is keeping his distance from tommy because of lots of other things um but i think you had

00:21:52.140 something i mean yeah exactly i mean if if you come up to me and say dan uh my sandwich has gone

00:21:58.360 missing out the fridge and by the way you've got a half-eaten sandwich in front of you and i start

00:22:02.960 saying uh i start talking about something else entirely now what am i doing i'm deflecting i'm

00:22:08.360 deflecting from the fact that i do not want to talk about the sandwich that is what that is what

00:22:13.100 nigel farage is doing nobody is talking about tommy in this point you know tommy is also um going

00:22:19.220 after the grooming we should all be going after the grooming gangs including tommy you know is that

00:22:24.100 that is in prison at the minute but what what farage is doing is he's dropping a smokescreen he doesn't

00:22:29.220 want to talk about re-migration he wants to keep us in that left wing he wants to be at the right

00:22:34.040 hand side of that overton window but he wants to keep us in that left wing overton window and so he's

00:22:38.380 dropping tommy robinson as a smokescreen and unfortunately i see a lot of people in the in the

00:22:42.560 comments to this sort of stuff going oh yeah i know i agree with farage you know you can't have

00:22:47.280 tommy robinson in well nobody's asking for that it's simply a smokescreen the reason i think he's

00:22:51.980 doing it is because he wants to communicate that the pressure that elon musk is applying on him

00:23:00.040 concerns uh tommy robinson i have that's that's why i think he doesn't i have a slightly different

00:23:09.020 perspective i think that because elon musk went through a lot of flack recently for wanting all

00:23:14.600 the h1b visas you know importing in all of the uh skilled people from india and the likes he doesn't

00:23:23.160 necessarily seem like someone who is very anti mass migration and so i think what nigel has done here 0.99

00:23:29.540 is inferred that the reason elon is saying this is because uh he's been on a big tommy robinson binge

00:23:36.620 and it is not that unreasonable but a lot of the other people myself included replied to nigel

00:23:43.400 um pointing out the fact that actually a lot of the criticism of your leadership isn't anything to

00:23:48.580 do with tommy robinson at all it's to do with immigration and your your lack of a strong line on

00:23:53.320 it and i think that we all agree on that fact don't we sorry stelios did you want no no that that's

00:23:59.260 the that's the main criticism i think your next i think it's the next link makes that point you know

00:24:05.500 abundantly oh that's oh that's me yeah that's you is that oh no go go up go up who is scroll up this

00:24:10.560 guy who's scroll up on that one oh sorry uh should be isabel oakshot so isabel oakshot just lays it even 0.77

00:24:17.020 more bare yeah so reform is not so she's saying and this is the partner of tice um the disgraced

00:24:23.480 former leader um says reform is not going to align with tommy robinson people can like it or not but

00:24:27.920 that's the position uh tice made this very clear when he was leader nigel fridges of the same view

00:24:32.540 end of and i'm just making the point there look that we no one is asking for tommy robinson to

00:24:36.860 join reform it's a smoke screen because you don't want to talk about re-migration but isabel's one

00:24:41.720 is just a little bit more blunt and it's a bit more obvious that that's what she's doing 0.98

00:24:45.260 okay so we've seen a bunch of responses and i think the most interesting one was from ben habib who of

00:24:53.280 course was the former chairman who was kicked out of the party unceremoniously and in a rather

00:24:58.920 undignified way um to parachute in zaya yusuf the muslim who donated 200 000 pounds to buy his 0.95

00:25:05.940 commission um and he says as far as i'm aware no one not even tommy robinson is asking that he join

00:25:12.360 reform you have answered a question which has not been posed which i think is a very good point and

00:25:18.940 that's what i noticed as well and it's worth mentioning as well if you want to know a bit more

00:25:23.020 about what ben habib um thinks he was on our podcast on the 2nd of december so not too long ago

00:25:28.460 and uh you can hear him in his own words there as well as um connor spoke to him on his show back

00:25:34.120 in august of 2024 as well um so another friend of the show harrison pitt said no one is asking you to

00:25:41.980 make tommy robinson chairman or deputy leader of reform just that you quit with aggressively

00:25:46.320 counter-signaling so you know here harrison's basically saying you're just counter-signaling him

00:25:51.060 there's no point um if you don't like him just you know be quiet on it it makes more sense to do

00:25:58.340 that because um i have been to a tommy robinson rally with karl before um just to see what it was

00:26:04.400 like and when it was asked who voted reform here everyone said yes so it's a significant portion of

00:26:13.360 reform's base if that is representative um is exactly i mean farage could have just gone with

00:26:19.000 um yeah i'm not here to talk about tommy i'm not that familiar with his with what what he's doing

00:26:24.740 you know you can you can just reflect and you can just move on you don't but what he's been doing

00:26:28.580 is he's been well he he's shutting down the hinterland he's shutting down anyone one inch to

00:26:33.820 the right of him and he needs somebody like tommy to exist because tommy's not even you know he's

00:26:39.820 still within the liberal framework yes he's he's still more of a civic nationalist in that he's oh he

00:26:46.320 is he's not it'd be a very tough sell to say say he's racist when you see him in videos with 0.72

00:26:53.560 seeks and half his mates black so he's he's definitely a a syvna yeah and and it's it's kind of absurd 0.98

00:27:02.140 to suggest that tommy robinson is you know far right at all really he was in many ways he would have

00:27:08.560 been a liberal of 20 years ago um you know in more of the center ground his constant constantin

00:27:15.120 kissin i can't even say his name uh because of the bile that comes up um he is the only politician

00:27:21.020 in britain with the name recognition common touch and charisma who can lead reform to any kind of

00:27:25.720 genuine result at the next election obviously at some point he'll have to hand over to the next

00:27:30.140 generation but that won't have to be for a while there's no one who can fill his shoes now anyway

00:27:34.440 now we're going to be talking about um farage's leadership a bit later on in the segment once we're

00:27:39.700 done looking at some of the responses but um as much as i dislike kissing i i think that

00:27:46.860 this is probably more likely to be a relatively significant view that farage is a household name

00:27:56.160 other alternatives are not and at the end of the day politics is about brand recognition more than

00:28:02.380 anything and so a lot of the internal party politics who have the potential to work against

00:28:08.900 farage and install someone else although that's very difficult and we'll get on to that well i'll

00:28:13.620 speak we'll look at it in those terms i'll come back on this more later but i mean my response to

00:28:18.360 kissing there is well what's the point of winning then i i do agree yes um we've also got steve laws

00:28:24.500 here um he's a coward and refuses to support remigration pretty blunt but um yes he does refuse to

00:28:31.720 support remigration which is why i don't support him uh ian miles chong you know elon musk's shadow 0.79

00:28:39.660 for some reason came out of the woodwork and suggested paul golding someone like him um needs

00:28:46.440 to become the leader which um is a very strange analysis from his basement in malaysia um but okay

00:28:54.100 keith woods weighed in anyone that won't endorse mass deportations at this point is just in the way

00:28:59.980 yep yep i i agree with that and here is uh steleos's favorite um italian-based cambodian

00:29:08.660 um the slot merchant himself radio genoa it's the funniest account out there

00:29:13.400 we will do a lads hour about this furthermore reform uk should not have an islamic but a christian

00:29:21.140 president uh yeah i don't think you should have a muslim as party chairman in a party that should 1.00

00:29:28.920 be criticizing the tenets of islam uh calvin you know our very own calvin says truer words to elon

00:29:38.320 musk there um and then we even had american commentators weigh in um this is elijah schaefer

00:29:44.020 whoever will conduct mass deportation stop the flow of immigrants from third world countries put the

00:29:49.000 native population first but national interests above global corporate interests must be the

00:29:53.740 ones to lead every country in the west waiting for that in the usa too i do agree with that this

00:29:58.020 whole thing must be quite confusing from the for the americans because they're just learning about

00:30:02.320 this sort of industrial scale child rape that's been going on for you know at least 30 years for

00:30:07.100 the first time and and they're probably quite rightfully shocked as to why this has been tolerated

00:30:13.600 and supported by the state for so long and also the americans just don't get why tommy robinson

00:30:18.660 is a problem now in this country we have been subtly inculcated for a long time as to why he's the

00:30:25.680 worst man on the planet because he's been built up as this emmanuel goldstein figure this bogeyman

00:30:31.020 figure but of course that that hasn't happened to the to the americans so they just hear what

00:30:35.800 tommy's saying donald trump's a good example of that perhaps yeah although tommy robinson's not even

00:30:40.600 running for office and never really has has he no he he he's just willing to go to jail because

00:30:46.400 for saying things that you're not allowed to say in this country so the americans just hear him

00:30:50.640 think yeah that's quite sensible it doesn't really travel across the pond quite as well because you've

00:30:55.840 got to live in the the muck so to speak your your view of the world is too positive because actually

00:31:01.720 america is probably a much nicer place to live than britain is i wish it wasn't so but alas

00:31:09.320 and uh here's lewis another friend of the show uh he says this consistent unnecessary counter

00:31:15.060 signaling he's taking a similar line to harrison of robinson is by choice the refusal to go down

00:31:20.100 the route of mass deportations which again very sensible uh throwing his own mps under the bus

00:31:24.700 during interviews this is another thing actually yeah um you want someone who is loyal as a party

00:31:30.020 leader don't you you want someone who's willing to stick by their own people for the benefit of

00:31:35.040 that loyalty has to work both ways yeah yeah we have uh we haven't pointed out something that

00:31:40.880 if you're a leader leaders are generally speaking a bit more restrained than than than others but you

00:31:46.920 need the base that is gonna boost you because you you also need this when you're negotiating with

00:31:53.180 people on the other side when you for instance exercise power you have to you have to constantly

00:31:58.460 negotiate stuff with let's say people from all sorts of yeah of uh it's it's good to have people

00:32:05.780 behind you who are sort of stronger in the rhetoric so so this is this is why i don't think faraj is

00:32:11.460 ready for government because faraj wants to operate as a one-man band and if he's going to go into

00:32:16.400 government he needs a whole talent deck ready to fill positions but he doesn't have that talent deck

00:32:23.020 because he constantly shuts people down just makes it about him well there are so many good people in

00:32:27.600 british politics so many good names that are bang on the money about things and what needs to be done

00:32:32.160 and even the right policies that we know we have the means to fix the problems is just about getting

00:32:37.660 those people in office and doing the actual job yeah but he constantly throws them out he does yeah

00:32:42.420 it's really quite frustrating but lewis here is is right and he also um responds to faraj himself as

00:32:48.440 well as um elon nobody's asking for robinson to be made chairman of um of reform or an mp like it or

00:32:54.640 not many reform voters cross over with their support of robinson they're simply requesting

00:32:58.740 that you not counter signal your opponents so you've brought this upon yourself and again i think

00:33:03.580 that that's a perfectly reasonable thing to say and uh the final one i'm going to go over is tom

00:33:08.320 roussel and i think that um he puts it very similarly to how i thought about it you may be right about

00:33:15.260 tommy robinson but there are legitimate concerns about whether you are willing to do what is necessary

00:33:19.060 to save the country from total ruin we want to hear the magic words deportations and i i couldn't

00:33:25.000 have put it better myself really i don't really care either way about robinson sure he did some

00:33:30.100 great work on the grooming gangs but if nigel wants to have him associated with the party or not 0.96

00:33:34.000 it's not important i know that he had advocated for people voting reform regardless and fair enough

00:33:41.660 can i can i just quickly pick up on the on the leftoid who's commented below that because the leftoid

00:33:46.760 blower thinks they've got a really clever point they've shown some white people who've been

00:33:50.980 convicted of something and says would you deport these people as well and they think they've got

00:33:54.820 a really clever go you know they really got you on that one well yes yes i would be perfectly happy

00:34:00.840 to deport or hang those people as well yeah the punishment should fit the crime it doesn't matter who

00:34:08.060 does it yeah but but from a left we do it in britain from a left-wing perspective they only have 0.98

00:34:13.640 you know um whites as enemies and non-whites as friends and so they think that that's a good 0.95

00:34:18.980 point it's not yeah hang them as well i'm allowed to say that on the podcast i've said it before yeah 0.95

00:34:25.820 when you have uh every population will have some criminals when it's you know the the question is

00:34:33.680 when it's foreign criminals who are overrepresented in crime and when then isn't it it's easier to

00:34:40.120 prevent yes and and and they're getting government support yes so also i saw a lot of people who

00:34:46.460 were saying on on online about jimmy savile and the and the epstein island no one was happy with it

00:34:53.040 yeah no because they tried to somehow say well they were silent about this you were silent about 0.77

00:35:01.420 that no no one was silent about it this whole tit for tat thing is a load of rubbish i think the people 0.89

00:35:06.380 who object to the grooming gangs aren't going to be like oh jimmy savile was okay because he was white 0.98

00:35:11.440 no one's saying that are they they're probably just as disgusting but that but the left think

00:35:16.440 that's how we think i know they've got they've got no theory of mind on this stuff look there is there

00:35:21.820 is a fundamental difference though and there is a racial distinction here is that no white guy would

00:35:26.400 be able to ring up 12 of his mates and say as has been done the other way around i've got a 12 year old 0.77

00:35:32.080 girl here do you want to come around and help me rape her you know how many white guys know 12 people 1.00

00:35:37.500 who he could make that phone call to and then people would turn up so that's distinction number 0.99

00:35:41.580 one well it was the the entire pakistani community in these northern towns covered up for them didn't 0.99

00:35:46.580 they they didn't testify so that's that's that's point number two point number two is that if a white

00:35:50.860 person does this the rest of their family will never speak to them again whereas in the pakistani 0.85

00:35:56.240 community they support them they deflect and they cover up for them so those are two fundamental

00:36:03.280 differences but the underlying point yeah hang them as well i mean it it makes sense if you have basic

00:36:09.740 intelligence you don't want to be around someone who would do that they could potentially do that to

00:36:14.780 your children yes yeah ffs well this is the community where we are having to pass a new law for

00:36:22.300 uh for banning incest yeah incest so which uh yes a third of all babies born with birth defects are

00:36:28.740 from pakistani uh marriages and they're only a very small portion of the uk populations and they're

00:36:34.180 massively overrepresented i've tweeted about some cousins i ran i ran the numbers it's enculturated like

00:36:42.240 in parts of rural pakistan 80 of marriages are cousin first cousin marriages as well not even second

00:36:47.880 but anyway let's talk about um is farage the man who can fix this mess and the first thing i've got

00:36:55.100 here is this and there are lots of reasons to be um skeptical of nigel farage because he has publicly

00:37:04.280 stated on record many times now things that are dissatisfying to the reform voters i thought we should

00:37:10.700 give a trigger but another bit is yes we have a muslim population in britain growing by about 75

00:37:18.400 every 10 years right that's just where we are if we politically alienate the whole of islam we will 0.99

00:37:29.540 lose we'll lose so how does one include we will lose by 2050 goodness knows what kind of a terrible

00:37:38.320 state we're going to be in i mean perfect example as to why farage is not the man we we have to win

00:37:45.760 in a way that it is pointless winning yes because of course by 2050 we'll be right on our way to be

00:37:53.900 a minority in our own country and of course with the growth of islam that's not going to bode well 1.00

00:38:01.000 for the native population we saw the populations that came out after the southport riots didn't we

00:38:06.160 we saw them going to mosques with weapons and the kid gloves the the police put on to treat 0.80

00:38:13.240 the muslims as opposed to uh the white working classes they just said politely in their megaphones

00:38:19.480 please put your weapons in the mosque whereas to unarmed white working class people they they got the 1.00

00:38:26.580 riot police the dogs and hefty stint in prison i don't longer than child rapists muslims turning up 1.00

00:38:34.780 with knives and bats asking deliberately asking the police like listen we can look after ourselves 0.97

00:38:40.760 we don't need you here well there's two great clips of those southport um protests which the

00:38:45.980 government labeled as riots one is which is a whole bunch of white people protesting um the southgate

00:38:51.880 murders and a row of police with their backs to a group of islamists who are throwing bottles over

00:38:59.040 the top of the police at the white people and the police got their backs to them and the other great 0.80

00:39:03.180 clip was uh basically sky news going out trying to make it about the far right when a group of islamists 0.92

00:39:09.260 came along and started smashing up their van yeah which one they just got the ground in the background

00:39:14.940 they were cutting tires i think i'm trying to remember off the top of my head but basically

00:39:18.780 someone came along and hijacked the interview and then they actually had to flee the area because

00:39:23.560 they were pursued and they had their tires cut and that suddenly got brushed under the rug didn't

00:39:29.340 they're actually the people causing problems sorry and uh due to it is uh largely due to x that we

00:39:35.900 have seen these videos that's true or at least that the number of people who have watched them have

00:39:40.620 it's circulated much more widely thanks to it yeah so this is the most egregious one for me this was a

00:39:46.540 sort of uh moment where i'm just like okay i there's no way i can support this guy anymore and this is

00:39:53.020 stephen edgington um asking farage about mass deportations no no yeah i'm not gonna get dragged

00:40:01.820 down the route of mass deportations or anything like that do you support mass deep that's all we

00:40:07.420 need to hear really isn't it yeah i i think the later part of that clip he goes on to say that it's

00:40:12.620 impossible to deport people well that's not true he defines it as politically impossible which is a sort

00:40:19.420 of crafty way of saying i don't want to be held you know accountable by my base for saying i'm not

00:40:25.980 going to do something that i said i made out i would do um whilst also you it's he's just trying to be

00:40:33.580 sneaky basically is what i'm trying to say but this i think i think you've got to be very explicit in

00:40:41.020 calling for mass deportations now it is what the the right in british politics has the appetite for

00:40:47.900 and you've got to be ahead of the curve you can't be following it you can't just nudge at the edge of

00:40:51.900 the overton window you've got to drag it that is what the left did to get to the point where they

00:40:56.940 are that's what you've got to do as the leader and it's not even that difficult at this point because

00:41:01.020 the the scandinavians are starting to do it we could very soon have a german and french government

00:41:05.500 that are going to be doing it musk's going to be doing it it's actually quite easy at this point to do

00:41:10.620 it yes i think one of the ways this is uh happening is by cutting social benefits

00:41:17.580 yeah there are lots of things we can do uh ban house slaughter is another good one

00:41:21.500 um you know make it so if you're married to your first cousin you can't live here you have to leave

00:41:27.660 there i mean if you receive social housing as a foreign born resident if you don't earn if you're

00:41:33.420 not a contributor to the country you get deported if you're foreign born there are lots and lots of 1.00

00:41:38.780 different things we can do it's it's very easy in fact i've got a long laundry list of policies

00:41:43.740 but anyway um connor also as you mentioned earlier um wrote this article providing some

00:41:49.820 very polite and gentle criticism of how reform has been conducting itself and um this is mainly

00:41:57.100 talking about the the failure to nail down the commitment to mass deportations and richard tice

00:42:03.580 explicitly called it garbage now what reform could have done is they could have listened to us they

00:42:08.780 could have listened to connor and they could be 100 million up by now but instead they're dealing

00:42:14.380 with this firestorm um and they've probably lost 100 million you know i would imagine so because

00:42:21.580 this connor um is hardly ever rude and spiteful sometimes he can you know add the odd underhanded

00:42:30.300 comment but when he's been addressing reform he's tried to be as cordial as possible and if they meet

00:42:35.660 him with such hostility when he's gently suggesting maybe you need to be a bit stronger on immigration

00:42:42.540 then that suggests a real resistance to change and listening to their actual support base which is

00:42:50.060 very worrying if you want to see these sorts of things happen which i think many reform voters do

00:42:55.260 they want to see lots of the people that don't belong in our country removed because they don't 1.00

00:43:00.380 um contribute anything other than hoovering up money that we earn and committing crime we don't want

00:43:07.260 that but anyway um it's worth mentioning as well um repert low yes so he seems to be the shining light

00:43:18.460 of the reform party he's doing lots of good things here he's characterized things here like musk is not 0.99

00:43:23.900 the story the thousands and thousands of vulnerable white working class girls mass raped by pakistani men are

00:43:28.540 the story that's great framing that's stay on target yes this is the point here he is as well he's

00:43:35.900 talking uh it's quite extensive but he's thanking elon for his kind comments and uh talking about

00:43:43.580 how people raising awareness might lead to you know so so for me this was a pitch perfect response this

00:43:52.300 this is a display of political tact and skill that has simply evaded farage and tice we may as well

00:43:59.260 read this then i suppose i know i'm a little bit pressed for time but i i suppose we may as well

00:44:03.020 so he says more awareness has been raised around the rape and abuse of thousands of vulnerable british

00:44:07.100 girls in the last few days than has ever happened before as a country this is a conversation we need

00:44:12.220 to have it shames our political class that it has taken a man of elon musk's influence to drag this

00:44:17.580 into the light this is where the focus should remain not elsewhere swift and brutal justice for

00:44:23.180 those responsible tommy robinson's role in exposing these gangs should be acknowledged he is not right

00:44:27.820 for reform but i do not think his um i do think sorry that his efforts in revealing these heinous

00:44:33.740 crimes should not be overlooked i thank elon for his kind comments i want to do what is right for my

00:44:38.860 constituency and my country this is my only interest nigel is leader of reform he made brexit happen

00:44:45.180 and for that i will be grateful i look forward to working with nigel and the entire team to continue

00:44:50.860 to hold his incompetent labor party to account democratize our own party win the next election

00:44:56.620 form a reform government a power from outside the existing political establishment is the

00:45:01.180 only way to achieve the change this country so desperately needs but as you say this is sort of

00:45:05.820 it's it's pitch perfect yeah it's it's staying on target it's acknowledging tommy but drawing a swift

00:45:12.220 line that no he's not right for reform but does it in a way that doesn't alienate his support yeah

00:45:17.900 yeah it's very tactful um he goes on to support nigel for for leadership of reform um but he does 0.97

00:45:25.580 it by laying out the logic as to why nigel is unsuitable so it's very clever very on point well 0.99

00:45:31.740 done rupert he he clearly has he clearly has a level of political skill that nigel just doesn't 1.00

00:45:37.020 um and um here's what i liked about rupert lowe so he he has been requesting lots of information from

00:45:46.620 the government that has previously been accessible he's had information about things like um people

00:45:51.980 who've been receiving welfare that are foreign um people who've received housing that are foreign um

00:45:58.380 people um wasting money in government and all of this stuff is great this is excellent facts and figures

00:46:04.540 and ammunition and you oh you can see me there down the bottom saying great work um this is really

00:46:11.900 useful this helps drag and move the overton window to the right into our court where we can score goals

00:46:19.180 right and that's why um i was saying he's probably the party member's favorite to replace him and um

00:46:27.340 seemingly lots of people agreed with that so unfortunately reform does not have a lot of options

00:46:31.900 because nigel has been so good at keeping out people um you know such as myself and beau who 0.97

00:46:36.860 could have helped and plenty of others who could have helped however despite his efforts there are

00:46:41.340 people like rupert and uh ben habib ben habib of course has been thrown out because you know

00:46:46.860 he was starting to outshine nigel so of course he had to go um and there's you know there's a 1.00

00:46:51.340 there's a question is should it be ben or should it be rupert but it kind of has to be rupert because

00:46:56.380 he has a parliamentary seat and ben doesn't unfortunately but there should be a big role for both of

00:47:00.620 them and then they should open up the talent um and let more people in because if you're going to

00:47:05.420 go for government you need a lot of people i want to say something i really like rupert lowe and i

00:47:11.340 really like what he's doing on x and his uh claims and i think statistics is what people need to listen

00:47:19.580 because numbers stick and a lot of statistics aren't circulated that well that's true because the the

00:47:26.060 government deliberately doesn't report on certain ones doesn't it and rupert lowe is actually actively

00:47:31.100 pushing for it so that that's what people need to hear i mean it's numbers valuable yeah yeah and it's

00:47:37.660 worth mentioning as well uh this is just a sort of back of notepad poll with only uh 7.8 uh thousand

00:47:45.420 responses to and this was in reply to nigel's um original response to elon musk who should replace

00:47:52.300 nigel farage as reforms leader of course it's worth mentioning as well that this poll doesn't

00:47:57.340 say should nigel stay as leader and so it could be possible that the people who voted were already in

00:48:03.740 favor of replacing him so it's not necessarily definitive that they'd prefer rupert lowe over

00:48:08.460 farage but out of the contenders it seems like he is the favorite from the eight thousand people that

00:48:13.340 responded and i think eight thousand is beginning to get to a point where you can start well you could

00:48:18.380 say i mean most opinion polls are about that sort of level you know you can you can say that's

00:48:23.260 statistically uh significant i'm a bit worried about the 9.7 percent you said richard tice i know

00:48:28.300 that's a bit strange so i've got a series of questions that i'm going to quickly ask i know

00:48:31.660 i've been going on for a long time so is nigel the best chance they have to win in the election and i i 0.63

00:48:37.020 know what you're going to say and i agree with you so unfortunately yes um he is the best chance

00:48:43.020 because he has the best name recognition but what is the point of winning if you're just going to

00:48:48.140 appease islam until 2050 it's winning the election but losing the country isn't it exactly i'm prepared 1.00

00:48:54.140 to wait an extra election cycle to get the changes that we actually need as opposed to somebody fakes

00:48:58.540 it and i see a lot of people coming back at me on twitter or x and saying oh you don't understand that

00:49:03.820 you know in private farage is um a lot more based well i don't believe in the secretly based

00:49:09.580 hypothesis nor do i i think he's he's he's operating on genuine convictions which normally

00:49:14.860 is a compliment of a politician it was years ago now my convictions as well it was years ago now but

00:49:19.980 i have had dinner with nigel farage and you know maybe it wasn't long enough but what you see is is

00:49:24.860 the same nigel as you get behind closed doors i do believe that yeah yeah what do you think stelios 0.97

00:49:30.460 i really don't know i think dan is correct about the brand recognition but still we have four and

00:49:37.100 a half years for the next elections and this is a significant amount of time in politics because

00:49:45.820 a lot of things may happen in in four and a half years right now a lot of people look at robert lowe

00:49:51.420 and they say he is basically the the main contender you don't know if that's gonna stay like that it's

00:49:57.900 a long time in politics isn't it what shall take um josh um i forgot my own question now what was it again

00:50:05.260 well um is nigel the best bet best bet uh no i i think farage needs to step aside um and i think

00:50:14.060 actually it need not be the the bad thing because i think actually if you start moving the overton

00:50:20.460 window and are seen as a force that can shift the tectonic plates of politics that lends a lot of weight

00:50:28.220 to your name you can in the four years until 2029 which reform does i think have a chance of winning

00:50:35.420 if they play their cards right you can shift british politics a significant deal particularly as things

00:50:41.580 are getting so much worse people can see outside their window at these new faces that have arrived

00:50:48.540 and they know that they're not making their country better you only need to point it out and

00:50:53.020 promise to do something about it and people believe you and you will win and just in case

00:50:57.500 nigel is watching you know this this is a this is again and i know you will perceive it this way but

00:51:01.900 this is again not us attacking you you know we're great supporters of everything you've done if i had

00:51:07.100 my way there would be a massive bronze statue of you in the middle of london holding a pint doing

00:51:11.820 that sort of slightly quirky froggy face thing you do it's brilliant you know you've done some great work

00:51:17.420 but you you're just you're just you're just behind the curve on this and you and you're not but you

00:51:21.660 don't have the energy and boldness to get on board with re-migration otherwise you would have you would 0.98

00:51:27.180 have done it by now so you know bow out with grace and dignity now so that we can all remember you

00:51:32.300 fondly don't become the obstacle any final thoughts delios no so what the final thing i'll say and i very

00:51:40.940 much agree with what you were saying there dan is that farage is really um holding up movement to the

00:51:47.420 right in british politics rather than helping it and it is to the detriment of his own politics i

00:51:53.500 think is to the detriment of the growth of reform i think the reform base will get fed up with this

00:51:58.780 tory uh you know teal tory behavior and that the reform party of course is popular because the

00:52:06.220 conservatives stab their followers in the back and if you signal as if you're going to do the

00:52:11.660 same it's not going to end well for you you need someone strong on re-migration to be able to fix

00:52:18.620 the country and to be able to win the next election

00:52:23.980 right what am i going to present now something about the freedom we had a 52 minute segment i know

00:52:31.020 uh it was a double one it's all right let me remember what i wanted to present what are we

00:52:36.780 talking about we're talking about some really hot cousins that's true some really hot first

00:52:42.380 you've grown a beard since we started this segment oxygen levels dropped again that segment was like

00:52:48.140 a pink floyd song it just doesn't end at least they're 24 minutes or so long we do have some rumble

00:52:54.860 rants but i'll save those till afterwards if that's all right okay i'll give you some time right so we're

00:53:00.300 going to talk about the presidential medals of freedom that uh joe bern awarded to several

00:53:06.140 people i think darth sidious also won an oscar that's the oscar of politics awarded by the academy

00:53:14.460 to lots of people right here we have their white houses um announcement they say that the

00:53:21.020 presidential medal of honor is the nation's highest civilian honor presented to individuals who have

00:53:25.740 made exemplary contributions the prosperity values or security of the united states remember the word

00:53:32.540 security world peace remember the world world peace world peace or other significant societal

00:53:40.060 public or private endeavors essentially this is just like saying we are awarding the people who

00:53:47.900 promote the causes yeah and promote the causes we would like to it's like the equivalent of a knighthood

00:53:52.780 in britain isn't it um i don't know if it's the equivalent because that isn't there a limited

00:53:58.540 amount of knights there can be isn't it 24 oh that's the order of merit no that might be the order

00:54:05.020 plenty of knights these days okay yeah nick buckley's got an mbe hasn't he okay okay maybe maybe i have

00:54:10.780 the order of merit in mind that is 24 people that may be jordan peterson loves that one that me

00:54:17.100 but but it is a high-ranking american pat on the back right it is yes yes yes and depending on the

00:54:24.540 administration you have different people receiving it i don't know if they have the oscar speeches

00:54:30.620 afterwards you know where they're thinking i think the president just hangs a medal around their neck

00:54:35.660 and then they shuffle off and maybe yeah down the stairs again they sit back right so i will say this

00:54:41.580 not everyone who got it doesn't deserve it i think there are some good people there michael j fox is

00:54:49.340 one oh i like back to the future yeah yeah so you see let's focus on some names jose andres no idea

00:54:56.460 who that is um culinary innovator who popularized tapas in the united states and therefore contributed

00:55:02.620 to the prosperity value and safety of the united states and world peace has it taken this long to

00:55:08.220 popularize tapas in the us we've had tapas in britain for ages yeah but i mean the spanish have

00:55:14.060 a good kitchen so they help world peace funny story about funny story about tapas that was originally

00:55:20.220 um basically served up to people who came um to spain they they offered them like a little bit of pork

00:55:26.940 to see if they're muslims or not and that's the origin of tapas but i don't think that's how they're using

00:55:31.900 it here it's basically like us in greece we constantly have thousands of appetizers so we

00:55:37.980 eat the appetizers yes and when the main dish comes you're just full of food and then you eat it's like

00:55:43.020 seven you're taught the meaning of gluttony right bono bono the front man of the of you two

00:55:50.380 mm-hmm everyone knows him not american though isn't he irish yeah he is irish and uh what they awarded

00:56:00.460 him for is the one the one campaign and the red campaign and some organizations that he is running

00:56:07.740 and i'll speak a bit about them in a bit in a bit we have hillary clinton oh yeah what's her 0.96

00:56:16.140 contribution some scandals and just overall josh don't be a silly don't be a cynic it's monday i

00:56:22.940 hate mondays try to help me a bit right thanks garfield i don't want all this cynicism you know 0.72

00:56:28.860 you know i'm not in the best of moods today right so don't be a cynic it says there she made history

00:56:34.940 many times over decades in public service including as the first lady elected to the united states senate

00:56:41.500 after serving as secretary of state she became the first woman nominated for president by a major

00:56:47.020 united states political party you know what that is a woman yeah you know what that really about 1.00

00:56:51.020 because she could have got this medal at any time um during obama's presidency what that medal is in

00:56:56.940 her case is it's basically saying that she's given up on the presidency

00:57:01.580 yeah we've given you a medal for not losing us another election

00:57:04.780 and maybe you know biden's gonna do the nice smirk afterwards saying now it's my time after she's

00:57:11.260 after she she left do you think he sniffed her hair when he or was she probably probably a bit i don't

00:57:17.260 know i don't know i don't know but you know if the shampoo is nice it's you can see she's a bit too old 1.00

00:57:23.260 dan he likes it i don't think it's really the shampoo that he's right so i'm gonna go through the names

00:57:28.860 quickly we have michael j fox tim gill jane goodle goodle uh we have um magic johnson right uh we

00:57:38.220 we have rfk posthumously well i like ralph well i don't know anything about the man but i've been

00:57:44.540 wearing his shirts for the last 25 years yeah i basically only buy ralph loren stuff lano messi

00:57:52.860 right the the argentinian football yeah you're gonna like what why is he getting an american

00:57:58.700 middle absolute you know goal scoring wizard i'm not sure because he is the most decorated player

00:58:05.580 in the history of professional football yeah but he's not american thank you stelios you see

00:58:11.980 it's not soccer it's football the whole world is against you america it's football not soccer

00:58:17.340 change the name of america american football or just keep both as football and specify american

00:58:22.060 for that wait wait will it that's not bill night bill night this is bill let's keep it yeah let's

00:58:27.660 let's keep that because we'll we'll go there david rubenstein george soros that's a worrying one

00:58:34.220 isn't it well he's hungarian and denzel washington washington is that for fair enough i don't i don't

00:58:40.140 mind the guy from back to the future and denzel's been yeah good stuff yeah right so let's start with

00:58:46.940 michael j fox he receives the presidential medal of honor god he got old did he yes and he the reason

00:58:53.340 why and i think that this is actually important this is this isn't just you know i just like to

00:58:58.380 virtue signal he has the michael j fox foundation which is dedicated to uh aiding research for

00:59:06.060 parkinson's disease and he of course has parkinson's doesn't he he has it and i think that this is

00:59:11.260 actually important this is actually important work yeah yeah i mean i would like to see a cure for it

00:59:16.220 and anything that helps that will help support the people with it i mean it seems a horrible thing to

00:59:21.020 have to live with and he's certainly done a lot to popularize uh you know um the idea of donating

00:59:26.940 money to it which is a good thing right so we have here uh joe biden will award the presidential

00:59:32.860 medal of freedom to lano messi uncertain whether he knows who messi is but i don't think that's

00:59:39.740 actually from the medal of it's not it's not come on you really resemble some of those accounts or

00:59:45.820 next where anything you anything you post is just they just take literally as if you know irony

00:59:52.860 doesn't exist or fun doesn't exist or something stelios i only care about the facts yeah i just

00:59:58.700 tweeted about the far-right llama today and everyone say this is old this is an old interview don't don't

01:00:04.780 don't uh aid him don't rally against him he sniffed a kid come on right but lionel messi he just didn't

01:00:12.940 go there and he didn't even send any recipient that's a step extra further away from marlon brander

01:00:21.980 he didn't receive the oscar but he sent an indian to collect it did he yes lionel messi just didn't

01:00:29.580 go there and he didn't send anyone they defined him on delivery or something i shouldn't laugh

01:00:34.860 that's good what i i didn't i don't really know much about messi but i like him a bit more now

01:00:39.500 yes what is what's his position on the falklands that determines whether i like him or not yes

01:00:47.660 right so we have here bono getting the presidential medal of honor bono proved his rock authenticity by

01:00:52.940 no that that's according to that dag 10 naval now controversial take i kind of maybe that's an

01:00:59.740 age thing but but i like you too really yeah well especially in the 80s the joshua tree was a good

01:01:06.540 album that's the one that everyone always points to i've never been a big youtube fan personally

01:01:12.620 and uh do you remember that thing where everyone had a youtube album downloaded to their their iphone

01:01:18.460 automatically and everyone reacted to it like they'd got a virus or something like it was the

01:01:22.940 worst in the world so what happened is i i like their music and i also like stuff before and stuff

01:01:29.020 afterwards because after the joshua tree i think not after the joshua tree they had another album but

01:01:33.980 then they said they had to reinvent their their sound well they discovered more than one effects pedal yeah

01:01:40.220 sorry musicians yeah but what happened is that i think musically wise they're they're really good they

01:01:47.420 stand out but bono is constantly using making statements about politics and frequently talks

01:01:54.380 about africa and there was a very famous scene where he was saying i think he was singing sunday

01:01:58.940 bloody sunday where people were oh he was a massive libtard before libtard was even yeah but 0.98

01:02:04.140 he was saying every every every three seconds where a club my hands a child in africa dies and

01:02:10.300 and no he did it every three seconds beat me to it yeah but but and killed so many today we'll stop clapping

01:02:19.420 sorry 0.80

01:02:22.300 we're not going to get the monetization but god but let's talk about butts let's see here the

01:02:29.260 one campaign the one organization he has this they have you know joined the fight for a more equal

01:02:36.060 future it's what you'd expect from you know a kind of activism it looks like someone has scrubbed out

01:02:43.900 the black lives matter logo and put one in a circle instead to to sell acting baby the album we know

01:02:52.300 you're not giving money to blm anymore please give it to us instead yeah so when you see here our impact

01:02:58.860 it's what you'd expect but if you see for instance here they're talking about germany what we have

01:03:05.340 achieved they're talking about agenda 2030. oh right okay let me show you exactly what that was so that's

01:03:13.260 like a medal via um joe biden from klaus schwab yes you are my my most loyal irish minion

01:03:21.900 other than the the the dark lord behind the curtain say i want this avatar so lionel messi sent

01:03:29.340 an indian to pick up his medal whereas um klaus schwab sent joe biden to deliver the medal that's

01:03:34.700 right right what we achieve the final coalition agreement commits to fostering sustainable development

01:03:40.700 and the implementation of the 2030 agenda you don't need to hear much more no straight presidential medal

01:03:47.660 of honor got it right here we have denzel washington he looks thrilled

01:03:58.060 yeah oh there you go acting you see yeah he he does a smile look over his shoulder to make

01:04:04.220 sure he's not being sniffed he's a good actor yeah of course yeah i mean crimson tide he's actually

01:04:09.740 quite sensible when he when he speaks on a lot of stuff as well he is yeah american gangster yeah i

01:04:15.740 i like that i like the ones we went around shooting people um was it equal i know yeah equalizer is

01:04:23.180 great yes yeah and it's also about our nonce ring yes he goes out and he's relentless yes so so

01:04:30.780 kia starmer wouldn't like that movie i know maybe we shouldn't speak about the movie right uh it's gonna

01:04:38.940 be uh punished yes someone is gonna feel the full force of the law okay so what what happened here

01:04:48.220 with josh is uh yeah yeah carry on are we hanging on there yes right so what's that that's the bgca right

01:04:58.060 boys and girls and and safe places and wait right if you're looking if you're looking for a safe place

01:05:03.260 for boys and girls the uk is that's what denzel was involved oh okay for some reason we don't see

01:05:09.980 we have a boys and girls for some reason we can't see it there yeah boys and girls jimmy carter keeps

01:05:18.300 on popping up there anyway so let me just read it from here is it a biden free zone is it let me just

01:05:25.100 read it from here right so he is in he has been the national spokesman for the boys and girls clubs

01:05:33.180 of america for over 25 years and it's a it's an organization that helps young people that's always

01:05:41.500 a good thing isn't it like giving them you know hobbies and things yes so probably poorer kids as

01:05:47.100 well as long as it's not supplying boys and girls because that's what normally works at this sort of

01:05:51.660 globalist level i don't know what i don't have any reason to assume this okay good if if anyone is

01:05:58.540 doing this i strongly condemn it yes yes of course strong very political answer yeah we have magic

01:06:05.260 johnson here remember he doesn't look sad to get it does he no he looks very funny and uh no he looks

01:06:13.900 very happy he he won the medal isn't that a guy the the guy from british children's tv in the 80s

01:06:20.540 a different one i think different one i think he's the one who was playing basketball there he's a

01:06:27.740 basketball player it's also i i like the tweet you've included here am i allowed to read this

01:06:33.980 out stelaos yeah of course be my guest josh so andrew at don't walk run i think that's a podcast

01:06:39.260 how many women do you think magic johnson has infected with hiv and are now dead whatever here's 0.90

01:06:45.180 a medal yeah but look here romney's laughing and also denzil is laughing here all of them have

01:06:52.220 really white teeth well it's because they all get the fake teeth they get their real teeth pulled out

01:06:57.020 don't they and then fake ones put in and then when the british don't do that we get oh you've all got

01:07:02.300 bad teeth it's just like no we just don't believe in cosmetic surgery as much yeah right here we have a

01:07:07.980 very suspicious photo a recipient of the medal of honor was photographed close to the the person

01:07:15.580 who attempted trump shooter to shoot trump at his golf course is that what he got the medal for

01:07:22.780 he wasn't he wasn't giving it to the assassin no no oh he's the other one right okay that wasn't

01:07:29.180 it wouldn't surprise me these days that would be quite mask off if he just gave him a medal

01:07:33.820 right so let's come here to think yeah really controversial here they focused on they gave

01:07:43.260 the medal of honor to bill nye for his commitment to spreading facts and scientific method right

01:07:50.620 and that's all he's i remember what he was saying in 2020 and 2021 this is not a facts

01:07:55.420 strong however we can't go into details it doesn't always match the sex they were assigned at birth

01:08:00.220 and a person's gender identity he's talking about you get an idea right facts and logic and he's a

01:08:06.700 very factual guy isn't he that bill nye yeah he he never spreads any disinformation or or unscientific

01:08:12.220 stuff never because summer would be against him all right we'll give him a medal as well then why not

01:08:16.700 medal when i want a medal as well yeah well yeah does it come with money as well yeah where's ben

01:08:21.980 shapiro's you can probably because he loves facts and logic i don't think i don't know if it comes with

01:08:26.780 money but you can probably pawn it that it would sell for you i'll get messy's one he's gonna take

01:08:33.820 it and sell it for just one pound if you turned up and he's gonna sell it cheap if you turned up

01:08:40.140 and said you were lionel messy joe biden would not know any different it's like well you you know you

01:08:45.500 look broadly sort of mediterranean that works when the when the 2012 london olympics on i i was sort of

01:08:52.300 attempted to hang out at the pawn shop closest to the olympics just after you know the africans won

01:08:56.940 an event just to see if they didn't sort of turn up and pawn it but we have here hillary clinton 0.99

01:09:03.420 receiving the address let's watch this i'm sure she was very modest about it the presidential medal

01:09:08.940 of freedom is awarded to hillary rodham clinton hillary rodham clinton is guided by the methodist creed

01:09:15.020 do all the good you can in all the ways you can as a lawyer she defended the rights of children

01:09:21.580 as first lady she fought for universal health care and declared women's rights are human rights

01:09:27.500 as senator she helped new york rebuild after september 11 2001. as secretary of state

01:09:34.220 she championed democracy worldwide and her nomination for president broke barriers and inspired generations

01:09:41.340 through it all her career has been dedicated to an eternal truth america's ideals are sacred

01:09:47.580 and we must always defend and live by them

01:09:54.140 right so basically i'm enjoying this you know why because i love honor really no i enjoy your reactions

01:10:01.980 it's like babies crying in flights if no one if no one is annoyed i'm annoyed but if i look at other

01:10:09.980 people being annoyed then i start laughing because it's just looking to see how much it annoys them

01:10:16.540 so now i'm good whenever i'm gonna play videos like that i'm gonna see you getting annoyed and i'm

01:10:21.820 gonna have a a ball stelios's torture hour is nigh not bill nigh i'm sort of perversely abused and

01:10:29.180 annoyed to be honest there was we have darth vader getting the being awarded the presidential medal of

01:10:36.700 honor you need to get a soy face and someone saying ai is getting out of hand now for that

01:10:42.220 yeah community notes this is ai generated darth vader didn't actually live yeah he sent his

01:10:49.740 representative from the death star you know add community notes darth vader lived in a garix galaxy

01:10:56.060 far far away a long time ago not now it doesn't doesn't make him ineligible for immigration

01:11:02.060 he did kill a bunch of children though yeah and and maybe he would win a medal george soros getting

01:11:08.620 the presidential medal of honor he has the open society foundations that a lot of people are

01:11:13.980 thinking is behind one of the main drivers behind internationalism of the of the really weird sort

01:11:21.660 well it is a teeny tiny bit subversive well he was found to be paying to fly people into the

01:11:28.300 southern border to break into america he was funding the flights well actually i mean they they they were

01:11:34.460 doing that and then they just started flying them directly in just directly straight in it's more

01:11:39.420 efficient i suppose yes but it says there um you cynical colleagues of mine cynical what colleagues of

01:11:48.620 mine okay okay the open society foundations are active around the world using grant giving research

01:11:55.820 advocacy impact investment and strategic litigation to build a future where everyone can live with

01:12:01.740 rights and dignity well not everyone i mean not not european george soros is the the founder he has

01:12:08.620 given away more than 32 billion dollars of his personal fortune to fund this he's the one controlling darth

01:12:15.580 vader isn't he and if you see our history it says here what what they start they start here as you

01:12:23.260 could say anti-communist but then if you fast forward to today you see how much it changes and um it

01:12:34.700 it looks a lot like the modern left well george soros is one of the most evil people on planet earth in my

01:12:42.620 opinion i think that i think that he's responsible for a lot of the evils that's been done to

01:12:49.260 the europe and north america um and he's doing it out of a certain sense of spite towards the native

01:12:56.380 population there there's some sort of deep-seated animus 2019 investing in racial justice

01:13:03.740 rapid response to the global pandemic 2020 building black power 2020 they invested around 220 million

01:13:14.700 dollars to build power in black communities so they bought them a lot of trainers then well well

01:13:19.340 basically they incited um race mass arson in areas that they then bought up promote bold new anti-racist

01:13:26.860 policies in u.s cities and help first time activists stay engaged um urgent humanitarian

01:13:34.860 relief for afghanistan ukraine it's the current thing yeah my goodness yeah funnily enough they're

01:13:42.060 looking to buy up assets in ukraine as well and uh i was asked to include this by me yeah you have any

01:13:49.900 comments to make about this well raw egg nationalist here says 40 of all murders in the u.s now take place

01:13:56.060 in districts with a soros funded prosecutor these prosecutors represent 72 million americans one

01:14:02.060 fifth of the population and half of america's most popular cities and and counties and yeah everyone

01:14:08.460 knows about the soros da's don't they that he's directly interfering in american justice and letting

01:14:13.740 murderers and and sex criminals and uh nonces because uh the silicon valley allows me to say that

01:14:19.900 word and not the the american one um look it up if you don't know what i mean he's basically

01:14:25.580 giving softer sentences to criminals so that they can tyrannize the american people who have done 1.00

01:14:30.700 nothing wrong i can't think of anything more unjust than that and and this is why starma is so stupid 1.00

01:14:37.420 because if he hadn't done it for free this guy would have given him money that's true yes soros 0.98

01:14:42.300 very responsible for uh the release of criminals and actually we're doing a quick callback to the last

01:14:46.540 segment um a lot of the leftists are attacking saying isn't it awful that elon musk is a foreign

01:14:52.140 billionaire getting involved in uk politics completely ignoring the fact that this guy has been doing

01:14:57.180 it for decades yeah it's only but but also yeah it's only when yes when uh someone supports their

01:15:06.940 political enemies they they have an issue with it and it's foreign interference then but it's not

01:15:12.380 when so so he got one as well did he well he's turn up he's yeah i imagine he would yeah i imagine

01:15:18.220 they uh awoke him uh from his crypt beneath washington no yeah straight up yeah sorry i'm hot off of

01:15:27.020 watching nosferati but was it a good movie good it was a good movie i quite enjoyed it yeah all right

01:15:33.020 might not be for everyone yeah well should we read some rumble rants and then all right that'll give

01:15:40.620 samson some time to sort out the video comments because i presume there are some okay so i can't

01:15:46.300 see my mouse there it is okay dragon lady chris says my islander two arrived big thanks to pete and

01:15:51.820 sam and everyone who worked to get it done josh your poem gets a 9.5 out of 10 cadence is a bit rough

01:15:57.420 in some spots but the message is quite powerful well thank you very much and i'm glad you enjoyed it

01:16:02.140 um hey i i tried to do the best i could i've never written a poem as a grown man um probably to do with

01:16:09.740 the fact that i'm a grown man um poetry is good actually it's good that they read it yes um but

01:16:16.860 that was my stab i don't see don't expect more of it um i think i'm going to stick to writing

01:16:23.020 cranky texan says talent is not like a pizza or inspiration you don't just you can't get it to

01:16:28.620 order yeah yeah cranky texan says adorno's drivel was just panicky retcon to try and protect

01:16:33.900 socialism very true um and that's random name says farage strikes me as a wannabe conservative

01:16:40.780 beware of the fake cons actions speak louder than words in their actions show incompetence

01:16:45.260 at best and subversion at worst i agree and again uh that's a random name says someone needs to replace

01:16:51.900 the the soy that's in the milkshakes thrown at farage with testosterone he wakes up and stops being

01:16:57.820 such a spineless coward that will make tr the pm i don't want to see that to be honest um actually

01:17:05.020 the habsification says elon has posted things about the grooming gangs during the southport riots 0.79

01:17:09.740 also he's posted comments to tr around this time that's true but he's been very hot on it recently

01:17:14.620 he's sort of injected it back into the news cycle in a very helpful way and i've lost my mouse again

01:17:20.620 am i even able to use one uh the engaged few says as an american what shocked me about the gangs is that

01:17:26.060 they've gone on for so long way too many guns in the us for something like that to go on for 30

01:17:31.100 years fathers would go um gary ploushee here i don't recognize the name i'm probably mispronouncing

01:17:38.700 it but you'll if you do know who that is you'll probably know who i mean um evan 66 says yank here

01:17:45.340 what do y'all think about homeland party um zoom a historian posts about them a lot i did i did

01:17:51.260 interview them on my brokonomics on the witton if you wanted to watch that mm-hmm but yeah um i know

01:17:57.500 a few of the people involved and they they're pushing the re-migration thing in a positive

01:18:04.140 direction and i hope it all works um the engaged few the medal of freedom is now the equivalent

01:18:10.060 of the hero of the soviet union medal the politburo used to give to brezhnev and his cronies for the

01:18:15.980 incredible service they rendered by getting older yes and uh which is actually quite impressive in

01:18:22.940 the us so that's true dragon lady chris the final one hillary believe all women also hillary those

01:18:29.020 women who claim to have slept with my husband are liars yes that's true hillary would know she never 1.00

01:18:35.500 sleeps with her husband but anyway well i mean let's go to the video comments who can blame it really 0.86

01:18:40.860 probably blame bill for that that's true i'm wondering if elon's questioning of nigel

01:18:45.660 is a 3d chess pr stunt move to cause the left to think reform are too disorganized to win the next

01:18:52.220 election in the same way kemi badenoch has handed reform tens of thousands of members through the 0.96

01:18:58.540 streisand effect rupert lowe has beautifully addressed the tommy robinson question which nigel

01:19:04.540 only needs to copy or is nigel too much of a boomer having too much trust in the system 1.00

01:19:09.900 which he has very nicely benefited from yeah you've got to feel you've got to feel sorry for

01:19:16.060 the tories because you know we didn't mention them once did we they're just completely irrelevant

01:19:20.380 they are out of the conversation well i mentioned them in in so much as i use them as an insult for

01:19:25.260 reform right oh oh yes we yeah we mentioned very briefly impossible but they're just so complete

01:19:30.380 and and what the toys did is they went peak um dei peak boss girl at the precise moment that it

01:19:38.380 peaked and started to fall off a cliff it was a terrible movie are they the guys with uh 3.5

01:19:43.260 centuries history who ended up with um we don't like sandwiches yes very astute yeah that's you know

01:19:52.780 from from the beginning then and now hey look it's me elon musk's response if you need a school you've

01:20:00.620 lost already when younger i may have benefited from an autism diagnosis so i can follow elon's train of

01:20:08.060 thought he does not understand what it is to be or learn like others he cannot think long term

01:20:13.660 typically what he starts he drops to flip to his next challenge electrifying vehicles and colonizing

01:20:18.540 mars are passing fantasies that he hopes to turn into reality this is great for someone driving results

01:20:23.820 from a company or efficiency in government but cannot set immigration and education policy

01:20:31.260 salient as point as ever alex no i very much agree i like learning myself

01:20:37.260 somewhat somewhat of a scholar aren't you stelios i'm a scholar

01:20:41.740 happy new year it's lotus eaters i want to shout out a really really nice business here in leura in

01:20:48.140 the blue mountains australia this is the oldest business in the region and they've got lovely

01:20:55.580 devonshire tea and high tea and also they have a very wonderful teapot museum that the owner has

01:21:02.460 curated for 50 years come and check them out the only problem there was that you put the jam and cream

01:21:11.020 on the cornish way rather than the devonshire way so you went for a devonshire cream tea and you turned

01:21:15.980 it into a cornish cream tea because you didn't put the cream on first which acts as butter and then

01:21:21.740 you put the jam on top i'm also intrigued how old i respect this is lovely business in in australia then

01:21:28.300 how old is it because i'm you find it would be fun if they said we're the oldest business since 1460.

01:21:35.500 yeah because i remember going to california once and i and i got i got on one of these little bus tour

01:21:39.900 things and they drove the whole bus of europeans up to this building in california and they said this is

01:21:45.580 the oldest building in california is 150 years old and then the guy just held the silence expecting a

01:21:52.060 bus full of europeans to be impressed by that oh my literally my shed is older than that

01:21:58.780 i mean the village where i grew up there are buildings that are older than

01:22:01.900 the state of california yes and and but by the way um going for devonshire cream tea

01:22:08.140 in australia i have not let that go that no no no i i still respect it i want to make

01:22:13.500 all right okay fair enough it's still admirable is that everyone samson i believe so we've got

01:22:20.620 some written comments i suppose would you like to read some comments dan kevin points out that we've

01:22:25.500 already been invaded yes we have um i i did make that point um let me see jack says it's fair to

01:22:32.220 criticize nigel for being a bit soft on tommy and other issues but the idea of ousting him is just 0.79

01:22:36.780 going to wreck reform's chances as if he goes reform will never see above 20 again i mean yeah i get i

01:22:42.620 get the argument um i mean the best thing would be for for raj to basically be given a bit of

01:22:50.940 courage and embrace what he needs to do and 100 million might do that yeah you'd have to you'd have

01:22:57.660 to go around kicking the you know children in the face to lose that election wouldn't you yeah but

01:23:04.620 i mean here's a hundred million so you grew a conscience i i i reckon i'm devoid of a conscience

01:23:09.820 i recognize it's it's essentially a difficult problem in the reform of the only one because

01:23:14.940 there are other parties out there who are possibly a bit more sensible in in many respects but they

01:23:19.500 just don't have the momentum the reform are the only ones who have the momentum but what's the point

01:23:23.260 of winning if winning looks like appeasement so you know that there's there's no good outcome

01:23:29.820 and and actually i'd rather lose another electoral cycle than end up with another containment party

01:23:36.300 that doesn't go anywhere because then you'll need to spend 20 years building up a new party

01:23:40.460 altogether and it's you know it's just worse um santa is a mossad informant says ultimately reform

01:23:47.020 will not be successful so long as faraj thinks his ego is more important than child rape victims 0.86

01:23:52.220 there is unfortunately a bit of ego going on with uh yeah um i i don't really know it's difficult to

01:23:59.580 know i i have heard that he's quite egocentric but it could also be for optics reasons with tommy

01:24:04.860 in particular because he he does have this reputation that follows him everywhere doesn't

01:24:08.940 it as the yes like the worst thing since the austrian painter yeah yeah that's great um dan is basic

01:24:16.300 based says well actually i'm not going to read your comment because of your name um snow dog says

01:24:21.420 nigel just needs to say one thing tommy was right on the grooming gangs i agree with him on that

01:24:26.460 um yeah you were the the uh pretty much what i say the rupert lowe response yeah exactly um alpha

01:24:32.300 of the beta says the political weakness of nigel farage is only useful insofar as it frames the

01:24:37.980 solution more clearly for the hard men in the hard times that will come after him yeah so that that's

01:24:42.780 the thing this is what people in the liberal post-war consensus don't get is that parties like reform and

01:24:49.500 afd are still left-wing parties if they if they form governments that is still a win for the left

01:24:57.740 because if we don't get a solution like that we will get a solution but it will not be in the current

01:25:05.340 liberal framework i think i'll just say it as gently as that i think you can infer

01:25:09.660 why is afd left-wing because they are operating in a currently in the current paradigm which everything

01:25:17.340 in that paradigm is left-wing it only looks right-wing if you're in the paradigm if you look at history

01:25:24.060 from any broader perspective everybody including reform including afd is very left-wing i mean okay

01:25:32.300 well let's discuss this another time because i don't see that way where were we i don't know how

01:25:38.780 you could not but yes we will just we will discuss that offline and maybe we come back in a segment or

01:25:43.980 something um dan the basic based also says i'm also not going to read that comment because of your

01:25:49.340 name um not that he's i mean it might be quite a good comment i don't know but i'm just not reading

01:25:54.540 it it's a good comment actually oh yeah he's still not going to read it um the illegal truth says come

01:26:04.060 on uh come the next election reform will not exist farage is doing all that he can so that when

01:26:08.860 chemi implodes as conservative leader he will be the knight in shining armor armor that rescues him and

01:26:13.660 merging the two parties yeah i mean that's the thing with the with the sort of reform leadership

01:26:17.900 is they basically just want to be tories they've been kept in the fridge for 25 years that's kind

01:26:23.980 of their whole thing um one more on this segment um shall we oh oh look make tourism work there's

01:26:29.740 one from sophie tourism so he says appeasing islam so surrender then that's a surrender let's call it

01:26:35.660 what it is farage is just uh is just ready to surrender to islam's and raiding force no fight no pushback 0.79

01:26:41.980 just surrender yes um shall i launch into your ones or do you want to read them or i can read okay

01:26:49.420 do you want to read a bit more because um i have blocked seniors so you you you give me a shout when

01:26:54.940 um when when you're when you're ready did you finish with yours yes all of them well i wasn't going to

01:27:00.860 read all of them even i've got three minutes left what about dan is basic based no i was going to skip

01:27:05.420 that one why you want super based well no i i'm i'm clearly not basic based and he put me in the

01:27:11.660 bottom of the bloody tier list he didn't put me in the list who got the has he done them all

01:27:17.100 no no it's anonymity so do we know who's got s plus yeah i don't know i'm hoping he's holding out

01:27:23.500 for yours truly yeah right yeah right uh arizona desert rat biden and obama have given out so many

01:27:33.340 medals of freedom that they have cheapened the significance of the medals that is true that is

01:27:39.420 true yeah no one can argue with that right also that would especially be the case if they gave a

01:27:45.740 medal of honor every pardon they gave then three for one combo the unbreakable litany medals and

01:27:53.180 knighthoods should be frontline combat only changed my mind yeah i think you've got to do something

01:27:58.860 heroic that is dangerous to your life like um having aids isn't a good enough reason to get a

01:28:05.100 medal um i don't being the first man nurse or being hillary clinton that's not good enough

01:28:13.420 in fact you should get the opposite fooling around you should get the opposite of medal you should get

01:28:17.180 a medal of shame and this is my hillary clinton medal you know you should be branded

01:28:22.380 you know right um kevin fox after the smile denzel looked to his right and said is he sniffing my effing

01:28:30.460 hair kevin fox dan it was a high level pat on the back until now who's going to want it now they have

01:28:40.700 given it to hilarious clinton george soros and bonner right omar awad value of freedom medals

01:28:49.420 inflating faster than the dollar these days if they were a stock i would short it

01:28:55.660 that's good financial advice kevin fox again uh you could probably pawn it do be serious dan now he's

01:29:01.820 given one to hillary clinton bill nye george soros you'd probably have to leave a cash deposit of a

01:29:07.980 hundred dollars to get a fifty dollar loan yeah it must have some meltdown value fuzzy toaster the

01:29:16.460 obe and the medal of freedom are just gross exercises in nepotism the amount of people

01:29:23.420 that actually deserve them are vanishingly few yeah i think that all all awards are basically

01:29:30.460 um a way of rewarding your mates and the people that you want to have public esteem i think though hulk

01:29:39.500 hogan deserves a medal of freedom right jimbo g dan confusing magic johnson with dave benson phillips

01:29:49.820 from get your own back yes that's that's who i was thinking of and kevin fox bonner did the every

01:29:56.940 time i clap my hands a child in africa dies at a concert in glasgow and from the back of the crowd 1.00

01:30:02.140 a voice rang out well stop clapping your hands you sick bastard 1.00

01:30:10.860 great note to end on 0.99

01:30:15.340 oh yes right okay oh yes i'm hosting aren't i right okay well um i hope you hope you like that um

01:30:21.260 back in half an hour what for the round table oh yes come come back we're not doing that live

01:30:25.740 are we that's already recorded is it samson it's live isn't it is it live yes he's samson has nodded it's

01:30:31.100 live oh right i can be on it then yeah oh okay i i was completely nonplussed about it because i

01:30:36.380 thought i wasn't on it but but now i know i'm on it yeah definitely come back in half an hour that's

01:30:40.060 very important because we're going to be talking about all sorts of sensible stuff so it's very good

01:30:44.620 and um it's it's goodbye from me and it's goodbye from them cheerio

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