The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1082
Episode Stats
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1 hour and 32 minutes
Words per Minute
186.46655
Hate Speech Sentences
114
Summary
In this episode of the Lotus Eaters Podcast, Josh, Beau, Leo and Josh discuss the latest in the Crown Prosecution Service case against Khalid Masood, the Southport sentencing and the impending Trump presidency. They also talk about the upcoming Trump Inauguration and what he might actually be up to.
Transcript
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Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for the 20th of January 2025.
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Actually, I had to look at the date there, still not got used to the year.
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And it is indeed a momentous day because Trump is going to become president today.
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All things going to plan, no stray bullets or anything like that.
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And today I am joined by Leo Kearse as well as Beau.
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We were just waiting to find out more things about it.
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And also, it's, you know, the Trump presidency.
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And we wanted a bit more information to come out because now it's going to sentencing.
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Because he pleaded guilty to all charges, you know, the murder charges.
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And I guess he's pleaded guilty to the terror charges as well.
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Does that mean we don't get to see the evidence against him?
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This is why we've actually waited because we want to see where things are going and actually
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have a proper look at the evidence rather than just jump on it and say, well, not a lot has
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But can I just say I agree with the left-wing establishment that he is the most British person who has ever lived?
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If I had to name my top three most British people, I think it would be Hugh Grant, the Queen, and Axel McGannua, Ruda Cabana.
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I don't want to sound really, really boring and conservative with a small c, but it is
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Plus, we don't want to give people ammunition to then try and sue us or whatever or say we've
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Just talking about the case had people saying, you're in contempt of court.
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I will rarely comment on a court case that's ongoing.
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And who could possibly have contempt for our criminal justice system?
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Our fantastic, impartial criminal justice system.
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Hopefully, there's going to be no more bullets going his way.
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But it's looking pretty likely, I think, that he is going to be the next president.
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And I thought it'd be useful to go over what he's actually going to do while he's in office
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And also, I think it'd be worthwhile talking about the likelihood of him actually achieving
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And I'm going to try and be as comprehensive as possible.
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So, there will be stuff that we might miss out that you'll think is important.
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But that is why you should comment about it in the comments section and not have a go
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Because, you know, we're limited by the amount of time we have.
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But it is also worth mentioning, I've wrote a pretty comprehensive article about this,
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as well as the fact that we're going to be covering this at four o'clock on the website.
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We're going to be watching the inauguration live.
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I think it's going to be a star-studded panel of ourselves, Carl and Dan, and maybe Harry.
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But we're going to be watching live if you wanted to come and join us doing so.
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So, that'll be a long multi-hour stream where it's just relaxed like a lad's hour.
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But one thing I wanted to draw a lot of attention to is that Donald Trump has basically announced
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that he's going to sign close to 100 executive orders.
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Whether that happens or not is a different thing.
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But I think that's very interesting because Biden, in his first week, signed 17.
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And this was seen as like an unprecedented move towards more dictatorial use of presidential powers.
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And 17 in the first week was the equivalent of two months of Trump's previous presidency.
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And so this is a massive ramping up of the use of executive orders.
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Because if you're not familiar with what an executive order is, it's basically a president's way of signing something into law without having to go via Congress.
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Although Congress can override it, I think off the top of my head, with a two-thirds majority.
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But I think Trump sort of broke the seal on these in his first term because, you know, it was hard for him to get things done.
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A lot of people in his own party were stymieing him as well.
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And obviously the whole apparatus of the American public sector, the equivalent of the civil service, was stymieing him as well.
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And also, you know, to make things happen, he started using them.
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And then, yeah, like Joe Biden started using them more.
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And now Trump's come back and he's like, yeah, let's have a million of them.
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I do think that the founding fathers will be turning in their grave at this.
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Someone like John Adams or Benjamin Franklin or someone would be upset if they saw this.
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Because it's now a tit-for-tat thing, sort of going forward, I feel like every time there's a change of party, change of presidential, it will just be this.
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On day one, it's just de rigueur that you do 500 executive orders.
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There is a parallel there with the end of the Roman Republic where, because it isn't illegal, right?
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It's sort of convention to do very few of them, similar to presidential pardons, isn't it?
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They've traditionally just been used in wartime or times where something needs to happen very quickly and it's an emergency.
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But then, I mean, I guess a lot of people would argue that after we've had decades, essentially, of this sort of left-wing big state government
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that's gradually got more progressive, more lefty and bigger and more cumbersome,
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that Trump, to actually make any changes in just four years, he has to hit the ground running.
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He has to sign, I mean, the emergency closing of the border and things like that, it kind of has to be done.
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You can't just put legislation into play that's going to possibly come into action in, you know, 18 months' time.
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Yeah, I think just like presidential pardons, you can see the progression over the centuries,
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where it used to be quite a limited thing and now it's hundreds or even a few thousand.
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Again, I think the Founding Fathers, it's not really what they intended.
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But like the Roman Republic, you'll see people not doing things that are, strictly speaking, by the letter of the law illegal,
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but just absolutely taking the mickey out of what was meant by it.
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Like the Founding Fathers, you know, America was a much more homogenous, high-trust society.
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So it's like our asylum system rules in the UK.
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They're designed, you know, in the sort of post-war era,
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when we weren't expecting, you know, thousands of, you know, Somalians or Libyans or whoever to exploit the rules to come here.
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Well, they didn't have the technology to get here in the first place, did they?
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They couldn't see, you know, social media accounts telling them what to do, you know, what lawyers to hire and all the rest of it.
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Yeah, or the Welsh Council advertising young girls to...
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I'm a bit more optimistic about Trump's use of executive orders here,
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because I think that there are multiple things that could be done.
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First of all, I think that it's clear that he's very serious about getting his agenda sorted.
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And for better or worse, I think worse, he's going to restore some faith in the American political system
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by going in and actually doing things that he said he would do.
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You know, there was an election where he clearly won,
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and he's going to go in and do a bunch of things that he said he will do.
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I mean, I think the mistake that left-wing parties like the Democrats and Labour do is, you know,
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they get this mandate to govern, and then they do things that the people don't want,
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Even though they've been democratically elected,
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it's not democracy, if you're doing things that people don't want.
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And lots of conversation has been had in the media,
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like loads of articles from a plethora of different outlets
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have been talking about what he's actually going to do with these 100 executive orders.
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And I think the main point of concern, in my mind, is that of immigration,
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And obviously, Trump has vowed, and I'm quoting directly here,
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to launch the largest deportation program in American history, starting from day one.
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And that seems to signal to me that he's going to pass some sort of executive order making it happen,
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which I'm very interested to see, because if America starts this,
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and it's successful, then also that's going to have an impact across the world,
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because it sets the acceptable parameters for policy, say, in Europe and elsewhere.
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Lots of places that are experiencing mass migration,
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and there might be a sort of domino effect from this.
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And of course, I want Americans to do this just for their own benefit,
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People breaking into their country and them having to pay for it is a massive injustice.
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Yeah, well, yeah, the Tories and Labor have both used the excuse of, like,
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well, these are just the rules we have to work with.
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We have to let all the hundreds of illegal immigrants come in every day,
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And it's like, no, you could pass emergency laws.
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How come during COVID there's this highly survivable virus,
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and we managed to completely close the borders to stop that?
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Now we've got some slightly less survivable jihadis who want to get into the country,
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and there's, oh, there's nothing we can do, the rules won't let us.
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I particularly hate that argument that they use,
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oh, there's nothing we can do, our hands are tired.
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When everyone from David Starkey to Matt Goodwin has said,
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You can be an actual government, an actual lead, actually lead.
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One note of caution I would say about Trump getting in and doing all this stuff on day one.
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I mean, obviously, I am, at least to a limited degree, a Trump partisan.
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But a note of caution is, first time round, he did say stuff,
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and then just simply didn't do it, like locking up Hillary or something.
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Basically, I'm going to, and then just on the first day in a press conference going,
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I think some of it is going to be rhetoric just sort of egging up his own base.
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But some things are serious, and I think that this is one of them.
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Um, and supposedly, um, he's expected to declare a national border emergency
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Beau's going to have a sequence of hats under that table
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that he's going to work through throughout the whole segment.
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I think that it needs to be done, and it needs to be done quickly,
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because, um, there is no excuse for people to break into the United States.
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There are lots of talk about things like human rights.
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oh, well, have you thought about the human rights?
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and they smell an opportunity, they're going to try and take it.
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And give the perception that you're unwavering.
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And the border system they had under the Democrats,
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is a kind of anti-civilizational border policy.
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It sort of rewards people who don't follow the rules.
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Like, the British dream is to be able to leave Britain
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I'm conditioned to form a queue, fill in a form,
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Whereas other people that aren't from sort of civilized cultures,
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anybody who wants to can just rock up and go over the border.
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Have you seen any Scottish people come over the border?
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and incentivizes the wrong kind of immigration.
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The European Republic has been way more successful
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in expelling hundreds of thousands of Haitians from its land
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because, obviously, it's half of the same island.
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So, you know, other countries have no problem at all
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you know, treating demographic groups like that.
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of countries expelling, on a mass scale, people.
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I mean, Russia recently got rid of loads of people.
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So if you've got a government with the political will
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All right, yeah, I was thinking of our House of Commons.
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but nonetheless, he's got the majority in Congress
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If you actually look at what the opinion polls are saying,
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even though he's not even going to be president anymore.
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I mean, the only thing that sticks out in my mind
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Things like pulling out of Afghanistan disastrously
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Which led to, you know, Ukraine and everything.
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that Trump intends to do to sort out the border then
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because other than declaring the national emergency
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he also said potentially that he would end the policy
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He's going to re-implement his remain in Mexico policy
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because in the 14th Amendment of the Constitution,
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all persons born or naturalised in the United States
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and they don't just exclusively rule on partisan lines.
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which allows the US government to curb migration
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You're not going to get good odds though, right?
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It's like something that could happen in Britain.
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Well, they're political prisoners, aren't they?
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from the way the Republic was meant to function.
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I think that it's running a 600 million black hole
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and I think that we're going to see a lot of that.
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And he's going to push Europe to be more muscular
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and to support yourself against the threat from Russia,
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because, you know, we're not going to come over there
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So let's talk about some of the intelligence stuff
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that's sort of tied into the government itself being bad,
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is that they've got the Department of Government Efficiency,
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where just entire government departments vanish,
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I think Trump's going to pass some sort of executive order
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whereby it becomes easier to get rid of federal employees
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and things like that that make them difficult to remove.
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And tied into that is all of the intelligence stuff.
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lots of K assassination documents being released.
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but I suspect that real slam dunk bits of evidence
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I mean, there's this idea of Trump draining the swamp
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that he'll actually go to war with them on some level.
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He released a video months and months ago, didn't he,
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and reclaim our democracy from Washington corruption,
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He wants to clean out corrupt actors in these agencies,
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of which there's like 17 intelligence agencies in America.
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It's like the CIA is the tip of the iceberg, you know.
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And talk about how these agencies have been weaponized
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Intelligence services that are supposed to be just about
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This is really important stuff as well, in my opinion.
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but sort of theatre in comparison to this stuff,
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which is the nuts and bolts of how the entire political system operates.
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Well, you just, when you've got a large government,
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our economies are running pretty hot in the West.
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because there's all these jobs we need to fill.
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No, the people who can fill those jobs are here.
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So we need to absolutely slash the size of the state,
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It's, you know, sort of rewards a block of people
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by giving them these cushy government salaries.
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we'll keep this trough open for your snouts to go in.
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The shadow government, you essentially allowed to happen.
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That's like foreign intelligence surveillance stuff
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do all these sort of extra constitutional things.
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they basically screwed us and our audience and,
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So just to let people know if they didn't know,
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we're still new at this is we're only on the third issue.
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But the distribution method to get it out to people didn't work that well.
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So we completely changed it and did it a completely different way.
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And hopefully this time it will actually get to people in a reasonable amount of time.
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we've got a team on making sure everyone gets what they paid for.
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If he does somehow against all the odds actually get a signed Trump t-shirt and sent it to us,
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It's always been nearly always been the thing that inauguration day takes place in sort
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of a blisteringly cold climate because it's just the way Washington is.
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So it's nearly always the way that the inauguration crowd are freezing their balls off.
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it says Axel Rudokabana was referred to counter extremism scheme three times.
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I think I've seen people that look like that on the bus before.
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I was reliably informed by the left wing establishment that he's a Christian.
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He was referred to a counter extremism scheme three times as a Christian.
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I'm hoping he'll talk more about launching missions to penetrate Uranus.
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I shall periodically be doing space and science based stuff.
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Please make sure it's when I'm on because I love this sort of thing.
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It's nice to have actual uplifting things because nice things are going on.
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but I think we could be better at giving you positive things,
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We're going to make you happy against the odds.
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I'm not sure if it was confirmed as an actual fact,
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to the point that you could see Jill Biden's face
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I think it's a pre-emptive pardon in case Trump.
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it's pardoning things that have happened in the past,
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eventually it's going to get to the point where...
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you look like you're in court for some firearms.
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Scottish people can't rock up and cross the border into the USA.
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What they should do is turn it into an elite assault course,
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so only the best athletes can break into the country.
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Think of the Olympic rowing squad we're going to have in a few years.
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We're going to have some really good water parks, aren't we?
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And so it's not possible to build any sort of continuous wall.
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So Trump made a statement just the other day saying,
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Or he said that our borders will be secure and safe
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or something or other, something along those lines.
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well, if we kill Hitler, we'll get someone worse.
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you'll get J.D. Vance, who's mini-Trump at this point.
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the logic doesn't necessarily pan out to take out the leader.
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Although actually, Iraq seems to be slightly more stable.
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and now they've started stringing together more shows.
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And apparently, they've already sold the liquor licenses for,
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they're going to start selling booze in Saudi Arabia.
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is somewhere that's got people pay to go and see comedy.
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Well, the bit about grooming gangs is based around,
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they're coming over here, they're taking our jobs.
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there's good, honest, hard-working British paedophiles
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you can write some anti-Christian bits, can't you?
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Some observational comedy about Abrams' tanks or something.
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Syrians might be laughing at our immigration system now,
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they're going to get a lot more undocumented nationals
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where we watch what's going on and have a chat,