The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1083

00:00:00.000 good afternoon ladies and gentlemen welcome to the podcast the lotus eaters for the 21st of january

00:00:04.540 2025 i'm joined by dan and andy no hello thanks for coming in and joining my pleasure thank you

00:00:11.060 and uh today we're going to be talking about uh well trump's victory and the kind of aftermath

00:00:16.380 of that which is still going on uh the axel ridikabana information that's been released

00:00:21.420 and the tiktok divestment so it should be quite interesting stuff um we don't really have anything

00:00:27.940 to announce not really well there's a there's a merch but we do that as we go okay let's let's

00:00:33.560 crack on so do you remember it wasn't that long ago you went to the white house website and you got

00:00:37.960 this little mealy statement that was like oh if you're unvaccinated you're going to have a winter

00:00:42.580 of death and and suffering ahead of you you go to the white house website now and you're greeted by

00:00:47.740 this let's just let's just take a moment that's pretty good to appreciate that america is back

00:00:57.420 the white house website now looks like that which is very good which is very good so in in honor of

00:01:03.420 trump coming back i will have to direct you we are briefly returning our trump merchandise

00:01:09.100 which is very good and you can get it now before tariffs replied to the uk so quickly get to the get

00:01:15.880 to the store pick your trump merch and um yes all will be well in the world now um i say all is well

00:01:21.980 in the world some people are freaking out a bit oh really uh yes they they've decided to focus on

00:01:28.600 um they've decided to focus samson why don't you um no he's he's just adjusting some cameras

00:01:34.260 um so uh elon decided to um to throw out a roman salute thank you

00:01:40.180 my heart goes out to you

00:01:48.340 now i know i know some people have been trying to say that you know it's been clipped disingenuously

00:01:56.740 and and he was just saying you know my my heart's full of love and i throw it out to you and all that

00:02:02.440 kind of stuff yeah i think that's the wrong line to take i think the right line to take is no he

00:02:06.300 meant it deal with it lefties and he's looking at me in horror there

00:02:12.020 you know the the fact that leftists online and media is focusing on this as the the attack point

00:02:20.100 for the inauguration i think uh shows that they're they don't have really anything else to go on

00:02:25.080 because this is a fabricated scandal it's not a scandal um i watched the thing live yes and you

00:02:32.540 can also look at the reaction from the people in the audience nobody interpreted that to be a fascist

00:02:37.460 salute at the time and this is also coming from a man who's been open about his own neurodiversity

00:02:44.280 and that's also been ignored from the media coverage in this as well and they also haven't

00:02:48.920 even reached out to him for comment on what he meant and if you watch any videos of public figures

00:02:55.360 who have given speeches any moment photograph can capture that same type of gesture personally i'm

00:03:02.480 inclined to lean into it but you but you you do make some excellent points there um but but no on

00:03:07.460 on a serious note i will say to those of you who are leftists who are who are deeply concerned and

00:03:13.340 you're you're feeling anxiety about um the incoming presidency i just want to say that um we're not

00:03:19.600 interested in olive branches at this point um you know after four years of your woke tyrannical

00:03:25.300 insanity it wasn't only four um much longer yeah well four intense years but but longer than that

00:03:31.420 yeah after all of your insanity uh we are here to crush your evil dreams um we are going to strip away

00:03:37.760 your twisted achievements and we will literally milk your rising stars on national television

00:03:43.780 i understand this is actually an artificial intelligence generation was it uh yeah unfortunately

00:03:53.080 oh i thought that was a yeah uh the so there's a meme going around uh that's funny that aoc is

00:03:59.700 going to get milked on stage yes uh uh disavow disavow yeah fair enough don't approve well um

00:04:09.820 almost a uh almost 100 of us disapprove right so um what we are actually here to talk about

00:04:17.960 is um there has been a few executive orders uh signed yesterday that i thought we should really get

00:04:24.320 into uh and i'm not going to play because he basically sat there for a couple of hours going

00:04:29.400 through these things just chatting to reporters as he went i'm only going to dig out this one bit

00:04:33.920 um samson do you want to do you want to play this one bit with with the sound because this this is

00:04:37.980 quite funny actually this one

00:04:39.720 so just in case you didn't hear it he's handed an executive order and uh he says what's this one

00:04:53.760 and uh the age says it's it's uh withdrawing from the world health organization to which he gets a

00:04:58.280 large ooh out of that so all of the executive orders can be found here there's quite a few of

00:05:05.200 them um i have read all of them and i i was basically just going to go through them and give

00:05:10.960 a short summary on each jump in whenever you want but otherwise i'll keep it fairly brief because there

00:05:15.180 are so many uh but i just wanted to get it on the record what it what is actually out there so

00:05:20.140 uh first one guaranteeing the state's protection against invasion so he's basically invite

00:05:26.140 invoking article 4 of the constitution saying that the united states is under invasion which

00:05:31.560 sort of gives him additional powers to sort of go out there and get stuff done so deported legal

00:05:37.200 immigrants uh well yes yes that as well yes um and yesterday there was these viral videos coming out

00:05:43.820 at the on the mexican side of the border south of el paso texas of migrants who were just in tears

00:05:51.420 and infuriated that their appointments um that were scheduled on the federal app were all cancelled

00:05:57.720 apparently that app stopped working very very swiftly didn't it yeah on yeah on day one yeah

00:06:03.580 that's that's not this um yeah eo but it is one of them that's certainly on the list uh next we've got

00:06:09.320 restoring names that honor american greatness so basically mount mckinney is is is being mount

00:06:14.360 mckinley again and the gulf of mexico is going to be the oh did they change it to honor

00:06:18.620 native americans or something it was something like that yeah so the park itself apparently

00:06:22.500 stays the same but the but the mountain is going back and in future um all landmarks and things

00:06:28.780 like that are going to celebrate american heroes good which is which is very sensible shouldn't

00:06:33.880 really need to be said especially let alone legislated for but here we are yeah um this is a good

00:06:40.160 one designate cartels and other organizations as foreign terrorist organizations and uh specifically

00:06:46.160 designate go uh global terrorists so basically that's um the drug cartels and ms 13 they're going

00:06:52.760 to be um defined as terrorists so that extraordinary legal measures can be used to combat them so the

00:07:00.380 military can be deployed against them good so all very sensible there it doesn't explicitly authorize

00:07:06.520 the invasion of mexico it's mainly focused on u.s soil at this point it's shocking to me that

00:07:12.400 there's been this foot dragging all through the years about hesitation of designating some of

00:07:18.600 these cartel groups as terrorists because these are paramilitary groups so it's access to weapons

00:07:24.080 that are more powerful than the mexican military they occupy land and the acts of brutality that they

00:07:30.580 commit on american citizens who have been caught up in their territory of course mexican citizens and

00:07:36.440 others i mean really horrible war crimes that i can't say on air and genuinely most atrocious

00:07:45.180 things you can imagine yeah like like what is does is what they do and it's terrorist activity in

00:07:51.860 addition to uh funneling in money and drugs that kill tens of thousands of americans so this is this

00:08:00.260 is the one that i think will restore the u.s military because at the moment if you join the military

00:08:03.840 you know what what are you joining for to so you know go and bomb random brown people but

00:08:09.340 parade parades in uganda yeah exactly but if you join now you get to shoot drug cartels yeah

00:08:15.740 there's actually a moral use yes yeah so that that is much needed american uh restoration there

00:08:22.800 right next reforming federal hiring process and restoring merit to government services so basically

00:08:28.580 what this is doing is saying you can no longer use um sex or race as hiring factors uh it does make

00:08:35.400 a carve out for you allowed to prioritize candidates who support constitutional values

00:08:40.040 government efficiency so basically this is the anti-twerking um executive order interesting that

00:08:47.500 it has an ideological carve out so there is a privileging of a more sort of traditional american

00:08:53.460 ideology contained within it which i think is completely appropriate there's no reason we can't

00:08:57.720 privilege ideology it's actually one of the few things we're allowed to remain to discriminate

00:09:02.100 against now uh is a person's political beliefs so interesting how he's specifically put that in

00:09:08.800 there yes so uh yes much less twerking will be taking place at the high levels of government

00:09:13.620 appointments now um ending uh radical and wasteful government dei programs and uh preferencing so

00:09:22.300 yeah dei is gone yeah um at least as far as dei as we know it it's now going to be um don eric and

00:09:29.300 ivanka um but uh this one is actually already working and we can we can see um if my link thing works

00:09:37.440 there we go so that that was um a a federal site yesterday you know with their dei page um and then you

00:09:46.960 can see uh from today it's gone so yes superb and also i found out that the la casa blanca which is

00:09:57.640 the spanish white house a page and social media handle has been deleted oh good excellent all right

00:10:05.500 it's taking all of this is is happening fast which is which is good to see yeah um right what

00:10:11.300 what has we got next oh yes um establishing and implementing the president's department of

00:10:16.340 government efficiency so doge um that that's that's going in and the way that they're doing

00:10:21.640 it is apparently they are going to rebrand the u.s digital services as doge right okay so that that

00:10:27.900 gets around with things how are you going to establish a new department and staff it up and

00:10:31.800 get it all done quickly well they're just going to take an existing one give it to you and modify it

00:10:35.720 yeah so it's already in the it's already in the apparatus and apparently that has tentacles that

00:10:40.820 that digital service thing it has tentacles into all of the other stuff oh okay so so that's why

00:10:46.040 they're using that although they are giving themselves a time limit so it's 18 months so

00:10:50.400 this terminates on the 4th of july 2026 that's actually superb though because that means that

00:10:56.120 he almost can't kick his heels no waste time the department of government efficiency is going to

00:11:02.600 have to be efficient itself yes superb in order to get anything done right um american first policy

00:11:08.420 directive to the secretary of state so basically this is saying that when the secretary of state

00:11:12.840 is doing stuff he needs to put america first yeah which is kind of interesting that that needed to be

00:11:17.980 said but evidently that it does we have to talk about the gender ideology one it was a couple up i

00:11:24.180 think it got skipped you know did it defending women oh yeah oh yes that's a good one no well done

00:11:29.480 two genders yeah so defending women from gender ideology extremism and restoring biological truth

00:11:36.740 to the federal government i love that term biological truth that is a good time can you click on it

00:11:41.640 yeah it just like i mean this has been debated in your country in my country for for years now this

00:11:50.100 topic and this is the clearest law i've seen defining what sex is what gender ideology is and how it's

00:11:57.480 so destructive to women's rights and also our understanding of biology and humanity as well

00:12:05.260 it's really worth reading it's it's very clear yeah no no he in fact it says that the efforts to

00:12:11.280 eradicate the biological reality of sex fundamentally attack women by depriving them of their dignity

00:12:15.940 safety and well-being the erasure of sex in in language and policy has a corrosive impact not just on

00:12:20.820 women but the validity of the entire american system and that that is the key part of all of this

00:12:26.800 because philosophically what they've been doing is attacking our ability to categorize to divide

00:12:32.300 one thing from another and declare one thing to be different to another the very concept of

00:12:36.780 differentiation was what they were attempting to undermine and so that that the fact that whoever's

00:12:42.340 written this it's probably gonna be someone like steven miller who's written something like

00:12:45.320 this because he's quite sharp on all this stuff or at least it will have had some sort of impact

00:12:48.480 the the fact that they are prepared to go this far with the statement is really really encouraging

00:12:55.060 yes i mean it's all quite obvious really but you know we've reached the point where the point is

00:13:00.800 it's actually not obvious which is why we've been stuck in the mire of sort of post-modern

00:13:05.680 post-modern categorical deconstruction for 20 years now it's it's actually quite a difficult thing to

00:13:11.920 be resolute on if you don't already have the sort of prior understanding of the thing but whoever has

00:13:19.820 written that has just been well aware that this what they're trying to do is dissolve all categories

00:13:24.600 we're not having it i also i also wonder if the the left-wing turfs and there are many of them

00:13:29.700 they've contributed a lot to this this fight um if they're willing to give trump credit or any

00:13:36.180 gratitude i've seen a few turfs who have basically come over to the right because of the position on

00:13:41.160 this so maybe well i mean we're giving them basically their agenda but they deserve it yes

00:13:48.520 it's right that women should have areas of life that are private to women well feminists aren't

00:13:53.840 always wrong they're just mostly wrong no but you don't have to be a feminist to want that someone

00:13:57.660 like mary whitehouse would have wanted yes uh it's actually unusual that women don't have their own

00:14:02.660 private spaces away from men in society it's just the turfs by definition are feminists so well

00:14:06.980 yeah sure but they the they are they're more like womanist i would say that's fine because

00:14:13.680 feminism's gone far beyond just women at this point but anyway when i was reading through these

00:14:18.860 executive orders and directives i was feeling like whiplashed are any of you feeling that it's like

00:14:24.840 in the span of 24 hours we went from in administrations we saw from before and after

00:14:30.960 everything else was built from an agenda of dei and grievance ideology to this yeah it's great

00:14:38.720 isn't it oh yeah and it's it's this radical it was like you were having a bad woke dream and

00:14:42.820 somebody threw a glass of cold water over your face it's it's that kind of snap back to reality

00:14:47.460 that we that we're getting right um what have we got next oh yes um uh protecting the united states

00:14:54.480 from foreign terrorists and other national security and public safety threats so that's basically boosting

00:14:59.960 vetting as you come in good idea essentially that one um unleash alaska's extraordinary resource

00:15:06.120 potential so that one is basically energy and minerals drilling and yeah it is essentially a undo a whole

00:15:13.780 load of biden stuff oh yeah because he would have had lots of quote-unquote environmental regulations

00:15:19.060 to prevent resource extraction from the vast territories in alaska yes all right next we've got um

00:15:25.060 protecting the american people against a vague invasion i love the way these are titled yes

00:15:30.560 it's very much taking a leaf out of the left saying well look are you against protecting the american

00:15:35.580 people from invasion it's like well they'd say yes because it always used to be that the left

00:15:39.600 couldn't mean but the right couldn't name things yeah whereas actually maybe we're getting our act

00:15:44.160 together maybe we can actually start naming things now yeah but this one is a bit like the alaskan one

00:15:48.460 it's basically just undoing a whole bunch of joe biden stuff yeah so this is appealing a whole bunch of

00:15:53.360 executive orders on well trying to stop defending people against invasion yeah bluntly right uh the

00:16:01.180 organization for economic cooperation development the oecd so this is basically global tax stuff

00:16:06.520 um getting rid of a lot of it right organization for the national security council and uh subcommittee

00:16:13.540 so he's reorganizing the national security council and its subcommittees won't go into that one in

00:16:18.760 particular detail um re-evaluating and realigning the united states foreign aid so this puts an

00:16:25.420 immediate halt on foreign aid for 90 days while each program is reviewed and the criteria for actually

00:16:33.280 doing foreign aid is going to be that it aligns with u.s foreign policy interests and promotes

00:16:38.580 u.s interests which again you would have thought just comes as standard but no but for whatever reason

00:16:44.760 it it did not he's not going to be giving iran any more money uh yes that well yes i'm pretty sure

00:16:49.980 that would be one of them yeah yes um temporary withdrawal of on all areas of the outer continental

00:16:56.520 shelf from offshore wind leasing and review of the federal government's leasing and permitting

00:17:01.800 practices for wind projects you see trump talking about this no he said that the uh wind turbines are

00:17:08.680 killing whales oh yes but the thing is trump failed to explain this was offshore wind turbines

00:17:14.380 uh so the windmills are killing the whales was how he framed it uh which i didn't understand

00:17:23.140 because i didn't realize he was talking about offshore wind farms but uh but i mean that makes

00:17:27.020 more sense i suppose it probably is it creates this resonance thing and and whales of course they use

00:17:32.200 the yeah the sound emitter thing to to find their way around but i actually thought that his his

00:17:37.520 secondary argument was more compelling which is that ugly and i don't like them yes that's also a

00:17:42.080 pretty good argument i think that's a perfectly valid argument just build nuclear what no it's

00:17:48.700 it's refreshing just to hear people would just be so direct you know and in clear in their statements

00:17:55.000 from these headlines and also your what you just said like some things are just ugly and i don't like

00:18:01.280 it and it's okay to say that yeah it's perfectly valid right totally next one is declare a national

00:18:08.020 energy emergency um so that is basically saying they haven't got enough energy and if they declare

00:18:13.680 a national emergency he gets additional powers the federal government gets additional powers to go

00:18:18.060 and do stuff to get energy online well that's only because the democrats have been systematically

00:18:23.480 attempting to reduce the amount of energy production the united states makes yes i mean like i remember

00:18:29.240 when biden first came in he started emptying the oil reserves and it's just like well his day one

00:18:33.320 executive orders were basically doing the opposite yeah i know they were terrible yeah absolutely

00:18:38.220 was it the keystone pipeline the first thing they cancelled that and you know prevented further

00:18:43.500 drilling for um oil and things against fracking against fracking and so it's just like okay so you

00:18:48.700 want the united states to be energy impoverished yes that's all you can take away from that right

00:18:53.480 uh restoring accountability for career senior executives so basically this is reminding them that they

00:19:00.460 actually work for the president um and it bolsters his authority to get rid of them if they do not

00:19:06.860 get in line this is going to be from his experience in the first yes isn't it like they didn't do what

00:19:12.320 i wanted them to do yes so now i'll be watching them and i will get rid of them uh this one um

00:19:18.200 promoting beautiful federal architecture i won't go into any great detail but actually from a timeline

00:19:25.080 of like 250 years that's probably the most important one on the entire list because that's what

00:19:30.160 will stick around after after all of these other things have been worked through you know you want

00:19:34.840 to look back see some beautiful buildings you want you sorry go on yeah it matters a lot i mean just

00:19:40.000 in england compare the the construction of buildings from 60s onward versus victorian infrastructure

00:19:46.720 yes you know it's like one is such a blight on your country i go from town to town and you see these

00:19:52.960 homes and buildings that look like they're from the soviet era yeah that's because they were built by the

00:19:59.560 in the 60s and 70s brutalist architecture yeah but no i think that's supremely important again

00:20:05.300 we it's it is important to make sure that we love our own countries and making them insanely ugly

00:20:11.680 is a very easy way to make it look like it's not your country doesn't matter to you right

00:20:16.660 restoring the death penalty and protecting public safety unlike biden who of course um basically let

00:20:23.200 pardoned everybody on death row on his way out the door um uh quickly i mentioned putting people

00:20:29.320 over fish stopping radical environmentalism to provide water to southern california so this is

00:20:34.880 basically going to divert more water to southern california uh whereas they had been using the water

00:20:40.040 for the interest so that was actually a very important directive that trump attempted during his

00:20:45.400 first administration but governor newsom in california stopped it right and it yeah it diverts well if

00:20:51.360 if newsom wants to stop it now he's going to have to explain why people's houses are still on fire

00:20:56.380 and he's stopping water getting in there there's a sort of george bushism from like 2004 or something

00:21:01.760 where he would he was talking i think it's probably about this subject but there's this one line where

00:21:07.440 he he says i'm sure that humans and the fish can coexist yes and trump's obviously disagreeing now

00:21:12.740 and there are a lot of fish yeah so i think the fish are going to be okay yes and these these headlines

00:21:18.140 are so it's um it it's inverting the the leftist sort of language because like fish over or people

00:21:27.160 over fish uh was in the original one is like people over profit so it's just like these are really

00:21:33.540 brilliant whoever wrote these kudos securing our border so this is this is um a couple of the points

00:21:40.680 you've already touched upon so the key points here is build a wall uh more personnel end catch and

00:21:46.160 release uh criminal prosecution of anyone involved in people smuggling and the key bit that you've

00:21:52.440 already mentioned andy is the ceasing of the cb1 app which was basically their streamlining process

00:21:58.340 of getting people across as efficiently as possible i believe it's off yep done so very important eo well

00:22:05.580 they're all important but that catch and release is just such a bizarre program as well it's okay we've

00:22:09.580 caught 10 000 murderers crossing the border well let them go what in in the united states yeah

00:22:14.820 in the united states it's mad protecting the meaning and value of american citizenship so it lowers the

00:22:21.660 amount of people who are going to get american citizenship it requires refugees to demonstrate

00:22:26.340 close ties and it is going to prioritize those who can integrate effectively without public benefits

00:22:33.040 interesting which is you know why don't why don't we do that why don't we prioritize people who

00:22:37.960 aren't just going to come on welfare but okay fine so are you suggesting that trump isn't going to be

00:22:42.020 putting them in three-star hotels seems not no um realign the united states refugee admission

00:22:49.180 program so it's going to suspend u.s refugee admissions until they can basically decide what

00:22:56.260 they want to do which is going to be less of it that's probably what you were talking about with

00:22:59.160 the crying refugees unleash american energy so that's the ev mandates gone and a whole bunch of other

00:23:05.800 things like that clarify the military's roles in protecting the integrity of the united states so

00:23:12.880 essentially more um reaffirming commitment to the southern border and yes we can use the military

00:23:18.100 american first trade policy so trade policy is going to have a focus on putting america's interests

00:23:25.320 first and it is going to review the existing trade agreements particularly with china i'm sure that's

00:23:31.920 going to yes be very good a memorandum to resolve the backlog of security clearances for executive

00:23:38.860 officers so you know they're going to well they have been holding up his appointment security clearance

00:23:43.600 police says fine um this executive order basically says that they can have top secret

00:23:48.000 clearance for six months until you get through the through the um vetting yeah just straight over the

00:23:54.260 top of their delaying who's in charge now declaring a national emergency at the southern border of the united

00:24:00.820 states so again a number of measures there about using the military and other and other such acts

00:24:05.860 um holding former government officials accountable for election interference and improper disclosure of

00:24:12.500 sensitive government information so this is the one that basically um you know those 51 intelligence

00:24:17.960 agents who who did that thing on the biden laptop yeah they've all lost their um security clearances

00:24:24.160 really all 51 yeah and they are the ones who use their position of um uh of clearance to go to media and say that they

00:24:34.260 believe the hunter biden laptop was fake yeah but but they're all out they have no disinformation they have no

00:24:40.460 more privileged access to um information than any member of the general public now it did also name one other person

00:24:46.980 john bolton oh really yes old wars chops is is um is is off the list as well right i love that trump's been

00:24:56.000 stewing on this for four years yes he's just been moving back in solar style drawing up lists oh you're all

00:25:02.240 in trouble now yes well that's really what we should have all been doing over the last four years is

00:25:07.120 drawing up lists yeah all right uh restoring accountability to policy influencing positions within

00:25:13.120 the federal government um so basically this is saying look if you are going to be a member of

00:25:17.940 the federal government you are going to have to faithfully implement the president's policies

00:25:23.060 and it bolsters a whole bunch of basically discipline um or non-compliance type stuff so very good oh this

00:25:31.220 is a good one this is the one that gone ooh from trump himself withdraw the united states from the world

00:25:36.360 health organization well the communist controlled world health organization tedros who happens to be in

00:25:42.120 hawk with china because he is an ethiopian communist exactly what you're saying is actually right

00:25:48.380 i actually used to be a very big advocate of who i think you know international cooperation

00:25:54.340 on health matters is important and it is important but who has been compromised through

00:25:59.120 chinese placing um people who are favorable to china in positions of power and you can see how the

00:26:06.440 who disgraced itself in its handling of covid and trying to cover up and protect china when the

00:26:13.280 international community wanted to investigate the origins of it which still to this day we don't

00:26:18.360 know and it makes me really furious that people have kind of just moved on yeah the executive order

00:26:23.060 does explicitly cite the response to the pandemic it does or does not it does it does yeah um oh uh next

00:26:30.580 one is something that i know you're you're going to be wanting to come back to in your segment andy so

00:26:34.100 this is the um application of protecting americans from foreign adversary controlled applications

00:26:39.100 act to tiktok so basically he's suspending the getting rid of tiktok for another 75 days um until

00:26:46.440 they can um have a bit of a rethink on that one so very good all right um granting pardon not good

00:26:53.880 yeah i don't think it's good but let's carry on oh really oh okay fair enough um granting pardons

00:27:00.320 and uh commution of sentence for certain offenses relating to the events at or near the united

00:27:05.660 states capital on january 6 2001 21 but yeah yes 21 yes um the so it's commuting the sentence of 14

00:27:14.660 individuals already convicted um it grants an unconditional pardon to all other convicted

00:27:20.840 individuals from those events it orders the immediate release from prisons for those pardons

00:27:26.160 and directs the dismissal of all pending indictments superb that's the money shot that one right there

00:27:32.480 that's if if he only did one executive order yeah it should have been that one but that's that's good

00:27:37.440 he's finally rewarding his friends so uh yes we are very happy with that right putting american

00:27:43.720 america first in international environmental agreement so this is basically the paris agreement

00:27:48.640 yeah booted good yes um i understand that the the members of the japanese government already saying

00:27:54.840 well why are we in it then great question what's the point great question yes because if china and

00:28:00.900 the us isn't in it there's there's really china doesn't do anything in it either china doesn't follow

00:28:04.960 the rules yes so there's no point to this delivering emergency price relief for american families by

00:28:12.520 defeating the cost of living crisis so basically this is this is the anti-inflation one

00:28:17.260 now you remember that joe biden also had anti-inflation measures and what his attempt was was by printing a

00:28:24.080 vast amount of money yes now if you're not an economist that doesn't work whereas this is basically

00:28:30.360 getting rid of regulation good thing and that actually probably will work so so very good um hiring

00:28:35.760 freeze um you can probably guess but basically um new hires have been frozen um it with the exception of

00:28:44.620 military immigration national security public safety social security medicare and veterans benefits

00:28:51.820 so just the outside of the necessary functions quote-unquote of the state yes it's going to

00:28:58.320 prevent state expansion yes yes at least until they decide to go somewhere else for that but for now

00:29:03.800 also um regulatory freeze pending review so there's a pause on all new rulemaking

00:29:10.160 and a postponement of any recent rules to allow the president and his team to review and approve

00:29:16.820 them yeah so you know stop he's what he's doing here is going after the civil service yes he he said

00:29:22.700 this when he was signing he's like you know we don't know who's in there we don't want them doing

00:29:26.260 stuff until we've got a handle on things and so perfect yes just stop it um the return to in-person

00:29:33.680 work that's a very short one so i'm going to read it in full all heads of departments and agencies

00:29:38.560 in the executive branch of government shall as soon as practical take all necessary steps to terminate

00:29:43.480 remote work good that's that's to the point i mean i like that um ending weaponization of the federal

00:29:50.500 government uh reviews uh so this directs um federal law enforcement intelligent agencies over the past

00:29:56.880 four years to identify and remedy politically motivated actions targeting opponents so that's

00:30:04.400 obviously gearing up to something quite fun yeah um restoring freedom of speech and ending federal

00:30:10.440 censorship so this is the mark zuckerberg um eo so this is this is i mean his point basically there

00:30:16.280 was that if the u.s government is going to defend free speech well we we can't stop the eu going after

00:30:21.080 us so so now the um uh government is going after that right last few now um initial rescission sorry just

00:30:29.360 on that last one i mean it's also direct in direct contradiction to what the biden administration did

00:30:34.040 which is actively censor people yes so it's good it's good that they weren't supposed to be doing it

00:30:39.820 with the first amendment anyway no of course yes so it's totally anti-constitutional yet they were doing

00:30:43.720 it anyway so uh initial recession of harmful executive orders and actions so that's basically revoking a

00:30:50.420 whole bunch of other joe biden stuff not covered uh previously fly the flag uh full staff on

00:30:55.780 inauguration day because they only flew at half mast because of jimmy carter yeah apparently because

00:31:01.060 of jimmy carter because they couldn't have picked any other day yeah but what what they were trying

00:31:04.220 to do is signal the united states is in distress there were a lot of liberal governors who suspended

00:31:09.540 that for inauguration day which was the right thing to do it's a ceremony one should honor except

00:31:15.820 in my home state of oregon the oregon governor democrat tina kotech had the the flag still flying at

00:31:22.560 half mast just flying the flag at half mast indicates distress so yes quite but uh like you

00:31:28.780 were saying earlier i'm kind of in favor of them being distressed so i will bang through the last four

00:31:33.660 in one go this is basically uh trump making various appointments to chairmanships um cabinet level

00:31:40.460 positions sub-cabinet appointments and um uh cabinet level appointments so i'll just go let's just go into

00:31:48.720 the last one we'll finish off with that um some notable names scott benenson is going to be the

00:31:55.040 secretary of the treasury he seems like a good chap um pamela bondy attorney general very good

00:32:00.480 uh peter hegsif um secretary of defense rfk uh health and human services christy gnome is going to be

00:32:09.940 homeland security marco rubio not sure about that one uh secretary of state and tulsi gabbard is going to be

00:32:16.560 director of national security and there's a whole bunch of other ones in there so those are trump's

00:32:22.200 executive orders i think this is based christmas like it very much what do you think japs very happy

00:32:27.540 to be happy we happy with day one andy well the big takeaways for me are the eradication of gender

00:32:34.460 madness in federal agencies the end of dei all the measures related to securing the border given the

00:32:43.060 crisis has been happening there for years now and the the pardoning and commutations of um the january 6

00:32:51.740 convicts i was thinking last night when i was looking through these i don't i know that the the last

00:33:01.100 four years have been quite um painful for a lot of americans under the uh biden administration

00:33:07.700 but if trump had won a second term in 2020 he would not be governing as he is now yeah turns out

00:33:17.980 they did us a favor yeah trump needed four years in the wilderness to stew on this yeah be persecuted

00:33:23.660 by biden to come back with such a great slate of day one decisions yes so very good we should thank

00:33:30.260 them for we are very happy with that their malfeasance uh right well um we've got a bunch of

00:33:35.840 super chance that's going to be burned through these um the shadow band says my heart goes out

00:33:40.640 to you lotus eaters and andy oh that's very kind uh neorealist says be be honest did you drop to your

00:33:46.040 knees and pray that something like this would happen for england well obviously every day yeah uh trump

00:33:51.080 needs to reforge the statue of robert e lee like the shards of narsil you know that would be a great

00:33:55.540 thing for him to do actually is um have a new statue of robert e lee created um because trump did speak

00:34:01.300 in defense because like robert e lee was a patriot and a great man it's not that you know it shows

00:34:08.860 support for his cause so as much but anyway i think that would be a good thing to do and just undo

00:34:14.340 everything the left have done just undo it you know what do you think of the criticism though that

00:34:19.680 um so many presidents in enacting so many executive orders that that that is tyrannical well

00:34:27.280 it's not i wouldn't say it's tyrannical but it shows that there's been a definite shift towards

00:34:31.380 an executive model of the presidency in the united states because of obama because of obama yeah right

00:34:36.720 it is it is their rules and we're playing it by by it exactly and if if trump wanted that to change i

00:34:43.000 mean he could produce legislation that doubtless he could get through the house and senate um that uh

00:34:49.560 would mean that there would be a limit to the executive orders a president could do perhaps or

00:34:53.660 something like that um but the fact is that there isn't and they they are allowed to do this is

00:34:58.960 perfectly legal and the precedent was set by obama and carried on by biden so why wouldn't you i wonder

00:35:05.520 if the gop-led house and senate will take this opportunity to actually to pass legislation that

00:35:14.200 would solidify these beyond executive orders oh well they should because one of the problems with

00:35:19.300 executive orders as we're seeing is they can just be undone um a random name says i remember leftoid

00:35:26.040 saying things like the adults are back in the white house when biden won i think we should throw it back

00:35:29.600 at them now well i mean i think that's what's happening uh neo unreal says the insanity of this

00:35:33.780 list of dan's of wins dan read off is just how much of this would have seemed unthinkable and to be

00:35:39.360 needed in 2010 an executive order declaring there are only two sexes this would be seen as parody

00:35:43.840 so yeah but we've had four years of biden and about a decade of left-wing hegemony so that's the

00:35:52.640 position we're in but anyway let's uh let's move on for the sake of time if nothing else um so the

00:35:57.540 information about axel rudicabana has finally been released and i will be quoting extensively from

00:36:03.140 the daily mail reporting on it which seems to be fairly good to be honest but this is the mugshot

00:36:07.980 that was released and you can see why they were using the picture of him as a child instead of this

00:36:15.740 one can't you yes

00:36:17.900 your shark-like eyes just he looks soulless eyes he looks exactly the kind of person who could stab

00:36:26.200 eight children yeah

00:36:28.960 the question of course is eleven was it eleven children eight were wounded and three died

00:36:37.360 oh oh right right and there was also the teacher yeah yeah of course um but uh

00:36:43.360 why is this person in our country why is he our problem anyway so uh the daily mail have uh been

00:36:50.220 able to finally release some information uh which is very interesting because if um axel had been

00:36:58.840 treated as an outsider to our society one could understand why he might feel resentful right but

00:37:06.060 that's not the case so throughout his life as a child he was integrated into our society i mean for

00:37:15.340 example there you have him uh being the star of a doctor who advert um he in fact he was when he was

00:37:22.220 11 he was billed as a stage school superstar he appeared in the doctor who advert and uh in 2017

00:37:28.000 he got performer of the week at the south port port branch of the pauline quirk academy of performing

00:37:34.280 arts he was a part of a local youth drama group through which he performed on a west end show

00:37:39.600 at the shaftesbury theater um the the drama group created their own movie which was shown at

00:37:45.340 view cinema where children walked down a red carpet he was cast in a children in need clip

00:37:51.160 after being billed as a superstar by a talent agency what more could have been done to

00:37:55.380 every opportunity was extended to him in his chosen field yes the country could not have been more

00:38:02.860 welcoming no more generous no i i i i don't know what more could have been done

00:38:10.000 sorry it could have been deported well that wouldn't have integrated him would it i suppose not

00:38:16.600 but nothing more could have been done to integrate him yeah um and his his brother seems to be uh

00:38:22.200 friendly and smiling elder brother uh for some reason he uh apparently was just a bit of a loner

00:38:27.760 which is interesting because on one hand he's a popular theater superstar on the other hand he's a

00:38:33.200 loner it's like right okay but theater kids normally loners i don't know i mean actors are a bit weird

00:38:40.580 but yeah but they're usually quite social but um yes but anyway he had a history of violence right

00:38:46.440 he had a history of causing trouble so when he was 13 uh he was wearing a hood burst into his school

00:38:53.320 after being barred from the premises for bringing a knife in so apparently he'd been arguing with some

00:38:58.380 of the boys or been bullied by some of the boys and so he brought a knife to school he got barred from

00:39:02.720 the school and he returned brandishing a hockey stick which he began to attack presumably his

00:39:07.620 bullies breaking one of their wrists so right bit of a red flag yeah a bit of a red flag uh he was

00:39:14.360 uh disarmed after being overpowered by a teacher and another time he attacked a teacher in which he

00:39:20.260 had to be restrained by three of his classmates he wasn't armed in this for uh this other attack

00:39:25.260 um but uh so low impulse control is what i'm picking up here no concern like the so there's there's a kind

00:39:35.220 of a kind of psychic map that people have of the place around them and things in this map are valid

00:39:45.500 or invalid right so dan if i had an argument with you and you were like nope okay we'll take it outside

00:39:52.240 we would take it outside and we'd have a fist fight i wouldn't be trying to murder you right i

00:39:56.720 wouldn't be trying to eradicate you from the sort of psychic map of the country because i recognize

00:40:01.100 there's a fundamental legitimacy to your existence even if we're having a conflict yes right well

00:40:06.940 that's not what he does i'll go and get my my um drooling swords and it would be to first blood only

00:40:11.280 precisely yeah right so i'm not trying to kill you but we are going to use violence to resolve a

00:40:16.500 conflict well that that's not something that it seems axel held in his heart for the british people

00:40:23.440 no it seems that just as you know out and out and quite brutal violence i mean it's possible that

00:40:30.360 he just didn't understand the concept possible but there's no reason to think he's actually stupid

00:40:36.120 right he seems to have actually been quite intelligent and if you like i've watched the um

00:40:42.000 the clips of that he was in even as an 11 year old he seemed perfectly intelligent perfectly

00:40:46.960 articulate like he's he's not someone who's a moron and so it's he seems that he just doesn't

00:40:53.920 seem to like the people around him or have any respect for the for their existence i'll take your

00:40:59.960 point the world around him he just considers an invalid he just doesn't he's not a part of western

00:41:04.980 civilization in his own mind it's he just doesn't recognize the validity of the existence of the

00:41:10.580 people around him i don't want to go any further than that because it's that that's the only safe

00:41:16.600 thing i think i can say with certainty so otherwise you wouldn't murder people or attempt to murder

00:41:21.440 people prior i don't know about the rest of it um but anyway he obviously did have uh some 0.5

00:41:30.020 milligrams of ricin which is a small amount of ricin which is obviously a toxic biological substance

00:41:36.200 mind you any amount of ricin is yeah apparently um it got on one woman's cat and killed her cat

00:41:41.360 somehow which is and he'd obviously uh he'd also downloaded terrorist material uh in the form of

00:41:48.000 an al-qaeda training manual called jihad against the tyrants now whether this means he is a muslim

00:41:53.320 or not it's hard to say his mother is a christian and as a practicing christian he may well have just

00:41:58.340 been looking for techniques to engage in terrorism with rather than following the jihadi line on the

00:42:05.880 metaphysics of the universe unknown frankly at this point um so but i mean can you rule it out no

00:42:12.840 absolutely not is it known as if it is a family who originally from east africa if they were given

00:42:19.620 asylum in this country they were so um alphonse ridikabana um was a refugee from before the rwandan

00:42:28.680 genocide apparently he had previously fought in the tutsi patriotic defense rwandan defense force

00:42:35.300 or whatever it's called and fled rwanda before the genocide apparently he is a tutsi as well

00:42:41.520 this just reminds me of um also the man the ariana grande manchester yeah isis suicide bomber who also

00:42:52.300 killed a lot of british children he was a child of a refugee family from north africa we have this

00:42:59.780 phenomenon that can be observed actually through data of children of refugees who's been given so

00:43:10.520 much opportunity not just them but their parents and family going on to to kill um the children in

00:43:18.540 in the countries that have welcomed them they they clearly don't feel at home in the place they've gone

00:43:22.760 to they clearly don't feel they belong there and they don't really care about the people around them

00:43:27.120 if anything it seems that axel seems to have hated everyone around him um we'll we'll carry on

00:43:32.460 it's fundamentally mismatched with his with his environment yeah he he didn't feel like this was

00:43:37.600 the the place that he belonged and he despite given being given all of the opportunities that he was

00:43:43.660 given uh doesn't seem to engage with them at all um again these this particular school called him a

00:43:49.940 quiet loner he is understood to have spent time in a children's home although the timeline is a bit

00:43:55.340 confused on this so i'm sure at some point we'll get more information um in fact there are there are

00:44:00.660 other articles um and uh his father apparently said that he was planning to commit the uk's first high

00:44:08.860 school massacre and was stopped by his dad a week before the massacre planning to perform a massacre on

00:44:15.440 that week right so uh they say he was armed with a kitchen knife uh and wore a green hooded sweatshirt which

00:44:22.840 is the one he wore to commit the massacre uh and he got he was getting into a taxi outside of his home

00:44:28.800 when his father alphonse ran out to him pleaded with the taxi driver not to take him on the 15 mile

00:44:34.180 journey from the family home to presumably the same performing arts school where the taylor swift dance

00:44:40.680 class was going on because i imagine that was a weekly thing um but the daily mail say there is no

00:44:45.600 suggestion that rudy cabana's father knew what he believed to have been planning at school

00:44:49.020 why were you stopping him from going then what was i'm i'm sorry i think he obviously knew and that's

00:44:57.100 why you say uh he was he had to be talked out of it by his father and okay so that's concerning if

00:45:05.040 my son had been armed getting into a taxi and i had to persuade him not to do it i would certainly

00:45:13.360 have gone to the police so look my son then judge me as a father like my son is going to go and kill

00:45:20.240 some people i would like some help with this well it's better that that happens than he actually does

00:45:26.580 it and then he goes away for life yes well yes it is the right thing to do yes um but anyway the daily

00:45:35.200 mail said they they didn't know but an eyewitness said there was a confrontation and he was eventually

00:45:39.060 persuaded to leave the vehicle uh so rudy cabana had rung child line when he was 13 saying that he's

00:45:45.680 going to bring a knife into his school because he was being bullied bullying happens to us all but

00:45:51.060 it doesn't mean we bring a knife into school um and uh this this is an earlier time obviously this

00:45:56.860 when he brings a hockey stick in uh police were called after an incident in december 2019 he was

00:46:02.300 given a 10 month referral order by a youth court um which is believed to be his only brush with the law

00:46:07.900 prior to july's atrocity uh so again it's it's not in the previous examples the police we doesn't

00:46:15.520 seem the police were contacted so bringing a knife in school and attacking someone with a hockey stick

00:46:19.980 and attacking a teacher doesn't seem to have uh triggered them going to the police although he

00:46:24.440 was referred to prevent three times over the years and nothing happened well prevent as in prevent

00:46:31.560 terrorism the organization designed to prevent terrorism yeah so they did the guy who committed one of

00:46:36.740 the worst acts of terrorism in the last few years had been referred to the terrorism prevention

00:46:41.320 agency three times and it still happened anyway yeah that's quite common for a lot of it is

00:46:47.700 terrorists in your country in mind so again these these are anonymous sources speaking to the daily

00:46:53.300 mail who are apparently close to it so they say the source added by all accounts he was a normal

00:46:57.660 year nine pupil until uh the incident with the knife and the hockey stick occurred uh that was the spark

00:47:04.620 that started everything uh the daily mail has also seen a video uh showing ruta kavana being restrained

00:47:10.780 by his fellow pupils when he was trying to attack one of the children he accused of bullying him i'm sure

00:47:15.480 that he had been bullied i mean who hadn't been bullied when they were at school this happens to

00:47:19.540 everyone but i guess everyone has different reaction to it um but uh the source says that he had no

00:47:25.060 religious links whatsoever even though he was raised as a catholic he wasn't a religious person so i mean

00:47:30.540 it's common lots of kids don't have any interest in religion because there's no uh social structures

00:47:36.460 enforcing it these days uh they think that quote he was just pure evil and wanted to hurt people

00:47:40.760 i would describe him as generational evil which is a very strange way to describe anyone well they must

00:47:47.580 have met his dad then who knows uh he was seen by multiple medical professions and diagnosed with

00:47:53.480 autism of course uh and he became obsessed with wars conflicts and genocides uh and that's how he came

00:48:00.680 to be referred to prevent and counterterrorism so he was expelled from his school and ruta kavana

00:48:06.080 attended specialist education in the southport area but he only attended two or three times one percent

00:48:11.580 so he basically just dropped out and his dad was just fine with this like my kids would not be

00:48:15.820 allowed to drop out of school i would make them go um but uh apparently he just bunked off all the time

00:48:21.180 and didn't go and his father didn't try and make him do it well there's clearly more to know about

00:48:26.160 his father because there is yeah um and the thing is police were regularly called uh sorry social

00:48:33.080 workers were regularly called to attend his family home and every time the social workers went to his

00:48:37.440 family home they brought the police with them because they feared for their safety in his presence

00:48:41.720 all right quote social workers who visited him always brought their own security as all said

00:48:47.220 it was felt that for their own safety it was better to have someone to keep them safe

00:48:50.200 because they were so worried about what he was capable of anyway on the day of the killings he

00:48:54.160 donned an identical identical outfit to the one he'd worn a week earlier when his dad had persuaded

00:48:59.180 him out of going on that massacre and again like i don't know how you can just sit on that information

00:49:04.600 okay yeah it's your own son sure and that's tough but if he's got enough he's gonna kill a bunch of

00:49:09.680 people you have to you have to act anyway so uh this time his parents weren't there so nobody stopped

00:49:16.660 him apparently became obsessed with socio-political history focusing on the worst atrocities of the

00:49:22.140 20th century apparently it was all he would talk about all he wanted to read about just as some

00:49:26.700 children are fixated on football they know all the players all the stats he was the same about

00:49:30.200 genocidal killers and bloody dictators he collected books and literature and read up on it obsessively

00:49:35.260 the nastier it was the more interested it was to him and of course his family fleeing the genocide

00:49:40.080 in rwanda was evidently part of the obsession with violence uh which the rwandan genocide was of course

00:49:45.180 one of the many conflicts he was fixated with um which is again interesting because his father

00:49:49.980 actually did uh leave before the genocide so strange um but again um like they the daily

00:50:00.260 males say here alphonse is believed to have fled rwanda with his mother well before the killings

00:50:04.460 began so i don't know what the connection is there i'm sure this will all come out in time what why did

00:50:09.900 they flee do we know uh well he was because he fought with the patriotic rwandan army which was a

00:50:15.100 tutsi army that fought against the hutu government and so i guess he's fleeing from reprisals or

00:50:20.980 something like that i see uh the the entire area is um uh an s show and a patchwork of states that

00:50:31.480 comprise multiple ethnic groups that have a history of committing massacres against one of them and when

00:50:36.780 you say fought against i mean that covers a lot of territory i mean his his father could have been

00:50:40.700 involved in all sorts of there were definitely tootsie sort of pogroms of hutus and there are

00:50:45.460 hutu massacres of tutsis yeah so yeah who knows who knows what uh his father was involved in i don't

00:50:52.400 have any information but um one of the sources said uh that they think that basically um his trauma and

00:51:01.120 autism caused a mental health issue and they think that this was caused by exposure to violent

00:51:06.700 materials online um so censorship is going to come from this i'm afraid uh so anyway that's that's

00:51:14.620 the majority of the information uh the bbc did a kind of live ticker although just to point out that

00:51:20.300 what's going to come from this is going to be more censorship and not deportations yeah that's 100%

00:51:24.720 what's going to happen um so there were various links i saved during the uh live reporting uh but

00:51:29.960 basically he pleads guilty to all offenses and uh the way sorry go on the way this case concluded is

00:51:37.860 a bit tragic for the public in that the court in liverpool scheduled the trial to start on the 20th

00:51:47.180 of january so all of the media coverage was focused on the american inauguration event for one he also

00:51:54.860 then at the very beginning of trial pleaded guilty to all the charges so the public was denied an

00:52:00.100 opportunity to hear all the evidence in the prosecution there was no defense mounted for

00:52:05.620 so it was just a fait accompli just like yeah he's i'm guilty i'm guilty of all the terrorism

00:52:12.380 and we don't need to have the trial so bear that in mind for claims of people worrying about

00:52:17.860 prejudicing the trial which didn't happen and this is and this is the story that kicked off the

00:52:23.260 the race riots last summer uh yeah yeah and actually i mean just credit to you cole um it would

00:52:31.600 have been very easy to have forgotten this story of everything that's going on in the us at the

00:52:36.080 moment and you were like no i'm going to do a segment on this this this needs to be talked about

00:52:39.980 so yeah this one one of the one of the main problems is there's going to be no catharsis for

00:52:46.100 the british public on this um he he's just going to be kind of memory old and uh we'll be told don't

00:52:52.800 back in anger of course we can't talk about any communities we can't describe any kind of uh

00:52:58.060 ideological motive to him and so nothing substantive will change until again you know

00:53:04.540 however long another terror attack will happen and it will be some deranged foreigner who just hates

00:53:09.500 this country and we'll be like okay um i guess we can't do anything about that either but anyway just

00:53:14.500 to uh summarize on this yeah so he was sullen in court though apparently he was smirking at one point

00:53:20.620 um he didn't respond for a long time to any of the charges and then when they started uh laying out

00:53:28.140 the charges he would say the word guilty uh to himself which is strange he pleads guilty no trial

00:53:34.280 and therefore there's going to be no particular discovery or information that comes out of it that

00:53:40.140 we don't already have which is very convenient for the powers that be isn't it very convenient for

00:53:44.580 very convenient yeah and so um nigel farage has been kicking up a big stink about this

00:53:50.260 because he alleges that when this first happened of course keir starmer being the prime minister was

00:53:57.400 privy to all of this information on the day uh before any charges had been brought against uh rudikabana

00:54:05.580 and so farage was apparently the all of the mps had their parliamentary privileges revoked

00:54:13.860 and he was not even allowed to ask questions about this in the parliament clearly a cover-up i mean

00:54:19.160 this this is britain we're we're permanent member of the security council we we have a decent

00:54:25.360 intelligence service there's no way the prime minister did not know all of this stuff on day one

00:54:30.060 yeah he absolutely did uh and keir starmer actually came out and admitted that as well um

00:54:35.480 but uh the the narrative we'll get to keir starmer's uh statement in a second has been well we didn't

00:54:42.500 want to risk prejudicing the trial it's like the the identity of the killer doesn't prejudice the trial

00:54:47.920 uh one of the one of the reporters actually uh asking keir starmer said well and lord carlis pointed

00:54:54.620 out as farage cites that knowing the identity of the killer is not the same as discussing the details

00:54:59.200 of the case which is true and uh there was a window before rudikabana was charged while he was in

00:55:07.260 custody that keir starmer could have released at least his identity to show people that there wasn't a

00:55:13.020 cover-up happening and he chose not to so uh but farage is banging this drum and uh keir starmer came

00:55:19.120 out and gave uh a very um i don't know how to describe it in a way tepid um but kind of insufferable

00:55:29.260 uh way of approaching this uh saying there must be fundamental change on how britain protects its

00:55:35.140 citizens and children it's like okay but what could that look like well i can make some suggestions

00:55:40.420 you can but he's not gonna he's not gonna take them uh and he says that oh okay we'll get to the

00:55:46.920 very bottom of this we're not going to be politically correct about it um but he said if this trial had

00:55:51.320 collapsed because i or anyone else had released crucial details while the police were investigating

00:55:54.740 then the vile individual who committed these crimes would have walked away a free man well that would

00:55:58.820 require a judge to allow him to walk away a free man what judge in this country is going to be like

00:56:04.400 yeah no i'm abandoning this trial so rudy cabana isn't charged because this trial was unreasonably

00:56:09.100 prejudiced by you knowing his identity well if if that is true why hasn't every case against tommy

00:56:16.640 robinson always collapsed because he has been the most prejudiced individual in this country the most

00:56:22.320 vilified person exactly i mean it would be up to the judge to do that as i understand it but in the

00:56:29.840 most strict legalistic way starmer does have a point because it is possible and there are there

00:56:36.460 are examples of trials nearly being prejudiced nearly being dismissed um such as the rebecca

00:56:42.740 brooks brooks trial of 2014 the joanna yeats murder case of 2011 the christopher jeffries

00:56:48.040 uh one in 2000 and i don't even know what oh no 2011 levi belfield in 2008 and george barry case

00:56:56.860 in 2001 where george sorry barry george case in 2001 uh with the murder of jill dando alleged um but

00:57:04.540 none of these were actually dismissed because of prejudicing he's taking a tiny tiny grain of truth

00:57:10.100 and using it for a whole cover-up yeah because uh i mean in the barry george case uh prejudicial

00:57:15.940 reporting about his character and lifestyle could have influenced the jury and uh but this this was

00:57:22.560 overturned later uh anyway so it's it's not that it's a guarantee well if we talk about this case

00:57:28.540 in any way even knowing the guy's identity that that's it we're we're putting the case in jeopardy

00:57:33.280 that's the decision of the judge and you would have to have a judge who wanted that guy to go free

00:57:37.600 effectively which is an unlikely thing to find um so in this case starmer admits that this was terrorism

00:57:44.500 although he kind of tries to side sidestep it uh by saying well we see extreme acts of violence

00:57:50.900 perpetrated by loners misfits and young men online desperate for notoriety and fixed on violence for

00:57:55.780 its own sake so it's just young men it's just young men fixed on violence um well basically he doesn't

00:58:01.600 think it's going to happen to his kids or his friend's kids and therefore he doesn't care yeah

00:58:05.580 but he's also kind of trapped in a position where what can you do against insane lone radicalized

00:58:10.440 nut jobs and the answer is not that much actually well there's certainly something you can do well

00:58:16.640 from his perspective right okay like um but there's not that much that he can't it's difficult to

00:58:22.940 legislate against this sort of stuff and so he says well there's a tidal wave of violence online

00:58:27.380 uh video after horrific video and this uh shouldn't be viewed and accessible on social media so what we're

00:58:32.880 going to get is censorship that's the only tool that they have it's a blunt one and they're going to

00:58:38.420 apply it liberally right uh does he regret blaming the far right no of course not he doesn't in any

00:58:45.460 way regret blaming the far right even though essentially they were correct he goes on to

00:58:49.320 defend muslims at mosques even though the guy had now created a terrorist manual who knows um and he

00:58:55.480 basically um just has nothing but praise for public servants in this so we're going to get more of the

00:59:02.520 same basically um which is going to get more censorship nothing's going to change this isn't they're not

00:59:07.660 going to prevent any further terror attacks and there will always be the open saw of the lack of

00:59:14.000 justice brought against ruda cabana because he will still be walking the earth any thoughts on this

00:59:20.320 andy just that terror attacks in in the west are so part and parcel using sadiq khan's words that

00:59:29.940 people forget about very quickly i mean in just two half two and a half weeks ago in america there was

00:59:35.160 a mass deadly attack in new orleans that was an is inspired attack people including many conservatives

00:59:42.480 have just moved on the news cycle so fast and that's what's going to happen in this case um they're

00:59:49.520 going to do everything they can to essentially bury it because there's there's no organization that

00:59:54.500 they can target they they can only lock him up uh he's actually too young to get a whole life order

01:00:02.280 but it's yeah so it's it's possible that in 10 or 15 years time he's just out and wandering around

01:00:09.740 our country although it's likely that what they'll do is i don't know somehow uh load the the charges so

01:00:15.820 he will have to spend like 500 years in jail or something so it's not a whole life order but

01:00:19.840 they'll make it so he can't come out but really he should get the rope and everyone knows oh yeah

01:00:24.400 um but obviously we can't do that anymore so um even the rope's generous he should be boiled

01:00:31.520 yeah he just i mean i better not go into it for the uh the sake of uh propriety um but yeah so

01:00:40.340 nothing nothing's going to change um so foreigner who was brought to england and decided to go on a

01:00:47.540 out of resentment against our country um anyway moving on let's talk about the tiktok divestment

01:00:54.660 so the tiktok thing has been very interesting to me because i don't like tiktok i don't like the uh

01:01:03.020 platform itself i don't like the concept of sort of you know 60 second clips i'm worried about what

01:01:08.540 that does to a person's uh ability to concentrate for any period of time and i don't like the fact that

01:01:14.180 it's owned and controlled essentially by the chinese communist party and is allowed to operate

01:01:20.220 in the west unfettered with uh whatever they want to pump into the soft heads of our young people

01:01:26.620 so there are two arguments happening simultaneously about tiktok there's the criticisms that have

01:01:33.840 until very recently existed primarily on the right criticizing the way that

01:01:39.220 the way the content algorithms are manually um programmed to drive certain type of political

01:01:50.380 topics that can really i mean they push dei topics um racial grievance and very politically

01:01:58.940 divisive stuff and they can really they tiktok has the power to shape the political discourse among

01:02:05.000 primarily young people in the u.s and other countries it's very very powerful tool just as a

01:02:10.440 quick side as well as i understand that there are something like 157 million americans who use tiktok

01:02:14.920 yes that's a massive number that's half almost yeah so the and and of course all the issues you bring

01:02:22.200 up about what it does to young people's attention spans so so that that is a criticism of the content

01:02:27.680 the other one that has been that has been discussed particularly through the legislate legislation is

01:02:34.920 the national security risk and we should not complete the conflate these two different things because

01:02:42.140 the legislation has nothing to do about criticisms you and i and others may have on the actual content

01:02:49.320 on tiktok from a national security um angle and this is extremely important not to do free speech

01:02:57.440 that's a red herring that's being thrown out there primarily by tiktok influencers and those who

01:03:03.540 would stand a benefit for the platform remaining um in the hands of china so in china there is a law

01:03:11.580 that any um business operating there by law which is required to turn over information about its users

01:03:20.060 to the government if the government requests it it's the law there so bite downs which who owns tiktok

01:03:26.660 is based in china and so the bipartisan legislation that was passed in the u.s congress and then um

01:03:35.340 approved by the senate and signed by president biden was one of the few bipartisan pieces that

01:03:40.540 democrats and republicans agreed on is that this is a national security issue because imagine tiktok

01:03:48.280 like many of these other apps it tracks um it has the ability to track what you type who's on your

01:03:54.780 content list etc google and some of these other apps have the ability to do that too that's how it's able

01:04:00.780 to curate certain specific content to you that's how it knows what i want to see in the adverts

01:04:05.420 exactly but this all this type of information potentially being in the hands of the chinese government

01:04:13.820 that's a big security issue and there are governments around the world who have banned like in australia

01:04:19.140 and other places who have banned tiktok from government employees having it on their government

01:04:24.440 issued devices because there are countries who have banned tiktok entirely aren't there there's that as

01:04:29.380 well albania for example has banned it on on the content issue which is a separate discussion here

01:04:35.860 so right now so just that china has also banned tiktok tiktok is not allowed in china there's a very

01:04:42.340 there's another version of it um that but the content if you go on it is entirely different

01:04:48.420 it's none of this woke and politically divisive stuff in trans cultural content of people playing

01:04:53.760 violins and doing dances ballet and stuff like that isn't it so they know that they are curating for

01:05:00.280 their young people high brow content and allowing the absolute slop of intellectual degeneration to

01:05:07.600 everyone else's but how do you get around the first amendment issues because okay yes

01:05:11.460 it's spying on people but all of the apps it's spyware yeah but all of them are spyware but it's

01:05:17.280 a national security issue yes okay fine but if if you have a first amendment and you say you've got

01:05:21.840 free speech why should the onus not be on if you're a government employee it's up to you to make sure that

01:05:28.040 it's not in your household why does somebody who's got nothing does it why does somebody work at a corner

01:05:32.820 shop have to have to lose it when they want to use it just because some you know three or four guys up

01:05:39.960 the street might work for the government in some capacity and they can't police their own household

01:05:44.160 because the the issue isn't with that person's ability to spread their message on social media

01:05:49.480 the issue is the platform itself being a tool of a hostile foreign power so even even if that is i

01:05:57.960 mean they there's it's not like this is the only social media platform that there is to use right

01:06:02.460 they could easily use a western platform which again is banned in china as all of them are

01:06:06.240 the government isn't preventing them as in intercepting their ability to upload social

01:06:12.280 media or the internet in general what they're intercepting is the chinese communist party's

01:06:16.640 ability to take advantage of americans in in this what's happened with tiktok is not without

01:06:22.600 precedence in 2019 the u.s government pressured the chinese owners of grinder and for those who don't

01:06:28.780 know grinder is a gay hookup app to sell to an american company because you can imagine

01:06:34.580 the national security risks for all the politicians and diplomats who use grinder who send messages on

01:06:42.540 there that are compromising pictures and and also location std status and other things like that

01:06:48.580 having that information that can be accessed by foreign hostile power is extremely compromising to

01:06:53.960 lots of people and the company and the company's all leak out pardon wouldn't that be awful if that

01:06:59.960 were to all leak out yes but but this is not about like a leaking out it's about like a hostile foreign

01:07:06.480 power having access to this type of personal information that can use to blackmail yeah politicians

01:07:11.960 but but also it can be used to like identify their location and things like that yes so in tiktok's

01:07:17.320 bite down staff have actually they've been forced to admit that their staff has spied on american and british

01:07:23.300 journalists this is another like tiktok from a national security argument it is a security risk and

01:07:34.260 the conservatives completely understood this until 48 hours 48 hours ago and there's been lobbying now by

01:07:42.200 um conservatives in dc to flip this uh the script on tiktok now what now it's very intentional

01:07:52.540 discussion it's no longer about national security it's about free speech and this is this is the pr that

01:07:58.420 tiktok is going to it's a free speech issue tiktok saying we're so looking forward to working with

01:08:04.640 president trump and trying to warm and get the graces of conservatives who have hated the application

01:08:11.780 for the content stuff up until a few minutes ago and rightly so and there's particularly one billionaire

01:08:18.300 donor who was one of the top donors in 2024 to conservative causes his name is jeffrey yas who is

01:08:26.860 who owns through his company 15 uh stake in bite dance and then personally seven percent so he's worth an

01:08:35.840 estimated 33 billion the sale and the instability of uh tiktok changing hands would be catastrophic to

01:08:44.340 his finances so he's funding a lot of these conservative influencing and lobbying operations

01:08:49.620 in dc i think where the conservatives are probably coming from on this one is that basically all of the

01:08:56.880 apps were hostile until five minutes ago yes so you know am i that concerned about the chinese government

01:09:04.580 knowing all my secrets well i'm suppose a mild you should be but i'm not i'm not that bothered to be

01:09:09.620 honest so the issue is far more concerned with my government yeah yeah but the the issue the issue

01:09:14.560 isn't so much with you um as in it's one thing if you know facebook meta apple youtube and now x have

01:09:23.980 access to my data i not only personally have constitutionally protected rights even in britain we

01:09:29.660 actually do um and there are limits to the amount that government can do the issue for us becomes a one

01:09:37.420 of censorship and political and ideological differences right as in facebook doesn't like

01:09:44.200 the fact that you go based on facebook and therefore censors your account or youtube demonetizes you

01:09:47.820 or do platforms you or something and that is personally difficult for you and therefore these are

01:09:52.560 an anti they become antagonistic to us personally but what andy is saying is on the level of the state

01:10:00.720 if the foreign government can have access to the location of any state officials at any time

01:10:09.500 well why can't they bribe our diplomats or blackmail our diplomats why can't they

01:10:15.220 spy on journalists yeah spy just i mean like and the thing is as well like radical thought government

01:10:19.820 employees and journalists should not be using these apps then sure but why have the open line at all

01:10:27.040 why why leave the door unlocked like you might have for example a staffer around president trump

01:10:33.740 who is a zoomer and therefore addicted to gay stuff on tiktok as all zoomers are right and he just

01:10:40.260 secretly has it installed on his phone but that means the chinese government can track wherever trump

01:10:45.060 is at any time do you want them having that and of course not of course they can't have that and so

01:10:51.140 some irresponsible zoomer staffer who doesn't understand the gravity of what they're doing

01:10:55.460 might end up essentially opening the door for the chinese to be able to assassinate trump or

01:10:59.540 something like this it's just got to be closed and then there's the subsidiary arguments of what's

01:11:05.440 the content doing to young people anyway why are zoomers so retarded well i think tiktok might

01:11:09.860 yeah i'm more sympathetic to that argument i've got to say tiktok might actually have quite a large role

01:11:13.680 in that it's like okay but who's curating the content to make our zoomers retarded oh the chinese

01:11:17.920 communist party look what it's done to our young people we've had a firebombing of office of a

01:11:22.800 congressman in wisconsin hours after tiktok was banned and police are saying it's because the

01:11:28.240 person wanted to enact revenge on the lawmaker for voting in support of that legislation that's the

01:11:35.440 that's the that's the behavior of an addict an insane addict i i get this it's just the whole

01:11:40.780 argument doesn't quite add up for me that okay we you're not allowed to have tiktok because it's it's

01:11:46.340 going to degenerate the the culture so lily so lily phillips is going to have to do her stuff on all

01:11:52.580 the other that's not the argument in the law though yeah but that's not the legal argument which is the

01:11:57.320 the argument for state security is much stronger on a practical and direct level like what the the

01:12:06.160 argument for the cultural integrity of the west being damaged by tiktok is a lot more diffuse

01:12:11.780 and abstract but on a very practical level having it so that the chinese communist party doesn't have

01:12:17.920 access to where our functionaries and government officials are at any given time is probably

01:12:22.640 important you know tiktok hosted a inauguration ball in dc i did not know that and they had

01:12:31.980 conservative influencers quite big figures that came as talent and stars for the event who were posing in

01:12:39.140 front of science that said save tiktok so this is a huge i mean multi-billion dollar campaign by

01:12:48.800 chinese interests to keep it in chinese hands think about it how they were willing to shut it down

01:12:55.740 preemptively rather than to sell they rather not operate at all they rather not operate at all in the

01:13:02.260 u.s than to sell and the legislation by the way didn't require them to actually shut down on um on

01:13:09.120 sunday at midnight it could have continued remain online actually the way the legislation was

01:13:14.740 written was google and ios and apple ios had to remove it so new people couldn't download it and

01:13:20.740 you couldn't update it therefore so then eventually the app would become obsolete like weeks and months

01:13:26.060 down the line not immediately what tiktok did and immediately shutting it off and having this

01:13:30.580 statement that came on that for every for the millions of people so it's it's playing a very very

01:13:36.780 wise pr campaign i would say it's the psyops that that was a political psyop 100 to get 157 million

01:13:43.700 zoomers well probably not that many but you know 157 million people to feel as if this was a necessary

01:13:51.620 and sort of almost political attack by the trump administration and the fact that trump backed down

01:13:56.780 on it is essentially an l for trump on this so one of the executive orders was he a delay of

01:14:04.500 implementation of the legislation for an additional 75 days so the state has tiktok's back online in

01:14:10.420 the u.s the state is closed remaining for another 75 days we'll see what happens but the national

01:14:16.940 security risks um i i cannot like overstate that like people are looking at it the wrong way when

01:14:22.840 they're thinking that this is about free speech that's the secondary argument it's not related to

01:14:27.200 the legislation it's also a bad argument it's not about free speech you still are able to upload to

01:14:31.660 social media platforms there's nothing about free speech that means you have to be able to have

01:14:36.100 access to a foreign chinese communist parties like app that's that's not a free speech argument

01:14:43.400 um but also like people forget just how awful the ccp is i mean they're the party of mao they've turned

01:14:49.660 china into a one-party fascist dictatorship like they have clearly designed to for the next hundred or so

01:14:57.560 years expand their influence around the world we should be taking action to withhold that absolutely

01:15:03.300 they are undermining western dominance i don't know why we export anything like our manufacturing to

01:15:07.380 them like it's it's such short-sightedness but uh but honestly they they're not trustworthy people in

01:15:13.040 the slightest that's true and there are also safeguards in place in this country in the u.s if

01:15:18.280 if um law enforcement wanted access for example information about a user on an app which they do all the

01:15:24.280 people who send cp and other types of stuff on social media they say you have to get a court order

01:15:31.360 a warrant and all that and it goes it goes through a process that can be transparent in the investigation

01:15:35.540 process and there's been people also you know if your information has been inaccurate or um wrongly

01:15:42.140 released by one of these companies you have grounds here and also in the u.s to sue massively

01:15:48.700 civilly as well for violation of um your personal information that you gave to them in a very

01:15:53.780 narrow restricted context in china they have none of that they want any of that information by law

01:15:59.820 they can get it completely unrestricted and you as the individual would have no idea what the

01:16:04.800 government is doing about your contact the people on your contacts what websites you access um your

01:16:11.340 geolocations yeah they can get it and the thing is there's no such thing as really a private

01:16:15.780 corporation in the in china because the chinese communist party you will just take it i mean there have

01:16:22.180 been a bunch of billionaires who have just disappeared in china like the state just disappears these

01:16:27.200 billionaires and appropriates their holdings so you're not getting any argument from me that the

01:16:31.440 ccp is bad and i think the strongest argument here is going to be it's just a national security risk it's

01:16:38.220 a little spy on your phone and the spy on the phone of the people around you and for that reason alone

01:16:43.820 we're going to get rid of it if we're going to try and make the argument that it's got something to do

01:16:48.060 with protecting the culture i mean the culture is so debauched outside of tiktok that it's just a

01:16:54.020 drop in the bucket but tiktok's a part of the debauchery process look if you want to ban tiktok

01:16:59.500 and also section lily phillips and do a whole bunch of other things yeah i support the turkish government

01:17:04.860 yeah if if it was all of that i'd be like yeah fantastic but let's not so it's just not based

01:17:09.680 enough and all of a sudden the zoom is going to be saved right possibly but um but yeah so anyway um

01:17:15.820 i i don't think that tiktok should be allowed uh on but i i actually think that all of those are

01:17:22.120 perfectly valid grounds but if if nothing else on the national security ground is surely enough

01:17:26.880 that is the strongest argument what are your thoughts then to close that off

01:17:30.360 be be mindful of how you're being misled by influencers and others those who not that long

01:17:38.860 ago you can look on their tweets and see what they were saying about tiktok

01:17:42.040 last year versus now um that's not organic i'll just end it with that without naming anyone

01:17:48.160 no absolutely it's not organic and it it's literally turned into a culture war issue where

01:17:53.560 they think tiktok's going to be based it's like tiktok was the most censorious leftist platform

01:17:57.520 out of all of them it's like no you should just put it easy well anyway all right on that let's go to

01:18:02.940 some comments so there are lots of comments saying yay andy is back we're very happy to have you in the

01:18:07.800 studio andy so i'm just going to summarize all of those we're happy to have andy back as well

01:18:12.320 um hector uh points out that trump did predict that we were going to get tired of winning

01:18:17.860 uh are we tired of winning yet not yet yeah i'm quite gonna have a bit more you tired of winning

01:18:23.700 andy no i'm still um i'm still in shock i'm in shock actually it is whiplash i do agree

01:18:31.240 compared to where we were six months ago now like this is the best timeline it could have been the

01:18:38.540 bullet through the air could have been through the head particularly you know being for me being

01:18:42.520 based in the uk now the changes from a labor conservative government are largely the same

01:18:48.220 i mean there's not really that much change yeah but that's because labor and the conservatives are

01:18:52.060 basically two cheeks of the same ass uh there's no difference between them they're both left-wing

01:18:56.220 parties um who knows what i mean maybe if nigel farage wins he can do something maybe once this

01:19:02.560 who knows i'm not going to put any hope in farage really but uh it'd at least be something different

01:19:07.720 i think so that'd be nice um uh andy no homo says i thought trump's inaugural speech was great

01:19:15.040 but there's a bit much when he used the hard arm and talking about obama well thankfully he wasn't

01:19:19.820 that's fake news um george says i'm very happy so far the jan 6th prisoners are pardoned which is a must

01:19:25.320 but i honestly didn't expect withdrawal from the who and pause on foreign aid trump keeps the same

01:19:29.800 pace there may actually be hope for the us and the world yeah i mean like like you were saying

01:19:34.480 earlier i think the fact that he's had four years to stew on this and just write up the list here's a

01:19:37.800 wish list everything i'm gonna do on day one you know get the executive because obviously there must

01:19:41.520 have been a lot of preparation getting these executive orders written out like by people who know how

01:19:46.460 these things ought to be worded make sure they do what they do um and he just had it all there and

01:19:50.340 you see him with the pens just signing check this out well i mean with any job if you could suddenly

01:19:55.000 get four years thinking time added into your working day your next working day would be

01:20:00.200 massively productive and that's effectively what's happened here yeah it's great the fact that trump

01:20:05.320 hasn't uh you know been slack and he's just been preparing no i'm preparing for the win preparing

01:20:11.860 these four for it and then i think this pace that he's set is probably going to keep up for a while

01:20:15.660 yeah yeah at least for a couple of weeks um but uh yeah no it's great uh kevin says the best clap

01:20:22.260 back to elon's roman salute was someone who posted a shock report that one of the village people

01:20:26.280 did a double roman salute and posted what is that correct actually i did find a whole bunch

01:20:32.840 it's just part of the dance with the two arms out oh oh right yeah of course yeah yeah good point

01:20:37.260 but um there is there is um somebody who put together a compilation of a whole bunch of characters

01:20:42.440 so you if you if you freeze it just right you can get cameron doing it you get biden you can get all

01:20:47.300 of them doing it's just put a person putting their hand up and like you know the media always

01:20:51.960 go to go does this tactic of taking out of context some type of movement in the body they do that with

01:20:57.280 like the okay hand symbol you know and all these things it's it's desperation it shows they're it's

01:21:03.480 pathetic they do it more and it's really common uh when they're creating hippies on people to get

01:21:08.980 them with a sort of mean expression on their face like there's a particular picture of elon where he's

01:21:12.900 like looking down like this as if he's like ah yes this is the picture of elon just before he eats

01:21:17.500 a puppy or something right and it's that kind of yeah we you know because someone you know again

01:21:22.220 when you're looking around it's very easy to catch someone with an unpleasant expression on their face

01:21:26.800 it's really not hard to do uh and so they do this all the time and they know what they're doing when

01:21:31.000 they do it they they do it to make people think badly of them uh so to hell with the media

01:21:35.940 roman observer does say well look are we expecting every new administration to come in with a

01:21:40.380 flurry of executive orders on day one isn't this a bad symptom for a sort of republic uh yeah i i

01:21:46.300 think it would actually be wise if at some point during his tenure trump legislated and militated

01:21:51.920 against this like putting a cap on the number of executive orders a president can do is probably a

01:21:58.180 good idea but i mean the the president is the head of the executive and if if the head of an

01:22:03.000 organization wants to issue a mandate to his workers why can't he well that's the the the that's a fair

01:22:09.320 argument but the alternative is you get this whiplash back and forth where oh well if everything

01:22:14.760 comes to be done by executive fiat well that becomes the easiest way to get things done for

01:22:18.980 that period of time but that means the next guy is just going to do the same and so the next guy

01:22:22.900 doesn't do the same rather than going through the effort of getting it through the legislative process

01:22:26.580 and actually making it law so there there are arguments on both sides well i mean it's it's better

01:22:32.960 to go through the legislative process if you can and we should focus on that if that's if that's

01:22:37.040 possible well again then there's a reason to limit the number of executive orders there isn't

01:22:41.080 president shouldn't have unlimited unchecked power should you have a limited number of things that

01:22:46.700 you can tell the staff at the lotus eaters to do um well i mean if if this was an elective position

01:22:53.480 maybe not sure it's not the same thing though is it uh kevin uh says trump signing his orders

01:23:02.200 like his political wwe i love it uh that is um that is one of my favorite parts the fact that he was

01:23:08.680 you know in an arena or something you know signing the orders on a desk with a big crowd cheering it's

01:23:14.800 like what is going on man just riffing the entire time yeah yeah and just it was so refreshing

01:23:19.580 compared to like dealing with biden right it's a refreshing case biden of course was very stiff

01:23:24.540 often didn't answer questions often was kind of out to lunch choreographed choreographed

01:23:30.320 every every step yeah whereas trump totally relaxed i mean like after he gave the initial

01:23:36.180 inaugural address he just came out to another i don't even know what room full of other people

01:23:39.600 this was and he just starts rambling for an hour and a half about whatever it was and it and it was

01:23:44.440 just like it's just like he's at his rallies you know and it was just oh this is superb uh someone

01:23:49.700 online says i'm stunned but pleased that trump is keeping his promises um did you think he would or

01:23:54.680 well you know regarding one example the 6th of january convicts there he seemed to have signaled that

01:24:04.520 he would only pardon some of them but in the end it was it was for all of them i commuted sentences

01:24:12.620 of some of the ones that were um convicted of more serious offenses and the rest were pardoned which

01:24:19.460 would wipe their convictions clean i didn't think he would actually do it for all of them i think

01:24:23.920 in my view i wonder if there was a radicalizing effect on trump in that biden in his final weeks

01:24:32.280 and days and minutes in office was pardoning his family friends and loyalists and so death row if this

01:24:40.200 is um this is the rules uh of your game then we're gonna well all of us are gonna play by it then and

01:24:47.220 we're gonna win uh yeah no i i think that's i think that's a fair question you know because

01:24:53.700 there was definitely a kind of gallivant galloping speed that biden ramped this up with pardoning his

01:25:00.260 entire family pardoning millie fauci and the jan 6 committee in advance say okay come on you know

01:25:08.140 this is getting to banana republic stuff now um that texas gal says the best part of the inauguration

01:25:14.060 was zuck getting caught in 4k um did you see zuckerberg getting caught in 4k what does that

01:25:19.860 mean it means that he was looking he was checking out some girl's boobs oh right okay it was really

01:25:25.460 really funny because uh it breaking news mark zuckerberg is heterosexual and human who knew

01:25:34.140 well he can't be compromised on grinder then well that's so there you go i imagine the owner of

01:25:45.800 facebook probably just uses facebook possible yeah um uh angel brain says and he hit on something very

01:25:51.560 important the early guilty plea means we all have no investigation into the motive of axel ruda cabana

01:25:57.080 and the loss of that will support here as now we have to go into pre-sentence

01:26:01.380 and mitigation that switch of early plea makes me suspicious uh yeah the fact that no defense at

01:26:06.960 all was mounted like there's just nothing there's no trial to be had was he promised anything if he

01:26:12.200 just did this who knows but you'll get you'll get a bigger tv in your jail cell or whatever it was or

01:26:18.240 maybe even an early release can't be perhaps it can't be a bloody early release there can't be any

01:26:25.160 release i mean we have rape gang leaders who did horrific assaults on multiple children who did less

01:26:33.080 than three years in jail yeah so actually we could that's the problem with your country's um sentencing

01:26:41.500 laws and also that there aren't enough prison spaces yeah i think i think i think sentences for crimes

01:26:49.520 should be voted on uh geordie saulsman says is the no sign of remorse link in the show notes referring

01:26:55.680 to starmer or the stabber um well uh the stabber actually i imagine starmer has a great deal of

01:27:03.720 remorse for the for ruda cabana now that he's murdered someone um no not even a joke i mean literally he

01:27:10.320 does literally he will because as we talked about the only time that we ever seen kia starmer express

01:27:15.400 genuine emotion is he went when he went to a prison camp full of child murderers and he showed

01:27:20.280 genuine concern for them yeah yeah so now he's gonna doubtless he'll visit ruda cabana in jail

01:27:26.520 i'm doing everything i can no i'm joking uh federal agent says we need an ai at the border that screens

01:27:32.280 people for demonic physiognomy and bans them from entry yes the thing is uh i don't know if he might

01:27:37.120 have been born in this country he was born in the uk yeah right so uh welsh man uh matt says seeing

01:27:45.360 that mugshot for the first time genuinely took me aback and shocked me it's the face of pure evil

01:27:49.360 soulless eyes like from a horror film yeah it's um it's horrific uh russian garbage human says i'm

01:27:55.920 livid at stammer's speech this morning we know full well he'll use us as an excuse for digital id and

01:27:59.680 social media censorship uh yeah yeah he will he absolutely will um and arizona desert rat says it

01:28:05.840 rand calls me no end when behavior and actions like this are blamed on autism autism does not

01:28:10.480 cause one to be automatically violent and aggressive no it just causes roman salutes um

01:28:17.520 i tell you what when i saw that last time i said oh now lead on you know did you have to

01:28:23.120 you know just think about it but yeah autism isn't something that makes people go and stab someone so

01:28:28.000 it's no excuse at all totally agree um and baronville moorehawk says the guy had more red flags than the

01:28:35.360 chinese communist parade uh let's be frank about the situation if he wasn't black then he would be

01:28:39.600 expelled immediately after breaking the wrist of other students with goddamn hockey stick instead

01:28:43.360 he got pass after pass and now three deal three children are dead uh possibly a guy from hungary

01:28:48.800 says uh will it be safe to go back to portland again could anti-antifa reclaiming of the pacific

01:28:54.400 northwest become a reality the political culture in the pacific northwest is on its baseline leftist yeah that's

01:29:03.040 not going to change and so anti-antifa i doubt it there's since antifa became a mainstream phenomenon

01:29:12.800 there's been such an effective propaganda effort to portray them as merely anti-fascists who are

01:29:20.640 opposing racism and fascism and that's a position that unfortunately the mainstream uh left still believe

01:29:28.960 and propagate a lot of those lies um even at the executive level like during in the biden

01:29:36.240 administration with things that harris and such were saying would you like to have seen trump add

01:29:41.360 antifa to that executive order on um domestic terrorist groups like the cartels and ms-13 that's

01:29:47.760 a good question so in when he was president the first time around he declared not as a executive order but

01:29:54.400 just sort of as a proclamation that his administration was treating antifa as a terrorist organization

01:30:01.760 a statement like that um i guess is fine as a statement in terms of it just illuminates how his

01:30:08.960 administration would view the movement but legally i don't think he he wouldn't legally be able to do

01:30:14.960 that as an executive order couldn't be into law because by by the first amendment no law can

01:30:21.280 um be established to ban or curtail the activities of group based on its ideology domestically

01:30:29.280 terrorist groups is different because there's an written into law there's an international angle to

01:30:34.480 that so um that's why they are that's why antifa can operate that's why neo-nazi groups can operate in

01:30:42.400 the u.s none of that by law can be banned or curtailed in any way that's first amendment

01:30:47.520 um right so we are out of time there uh andy thank you so much for joining us uh i assume

01:30:53.440 that if people want more from you they can go to your massive twitter account

01:30:57.120 yes my twitter handle is at mr andy ngo and my website is andy.ngo.com please support my work

01:31:04.960 thank you so much for coming in my pleasure it's been a real pleasure uh thank you for joining us folks

01:31:08.560 we'll be back tomorrow

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - January 21, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1083

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