The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1091

00:00:00.160 Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for the 31st of January 2025.

00:00:06.180 Where has that month gone? I can't believe how quickly it's already gone, to be honest.

00:00:11.360 When you get middle-aged, whole year, you can say that about whole years.

00:00:14.780 Especially January and February are the worst months of the whole year.

00:00:19.060 You want them to go by quickly.

00:00:20.300 That's true. I'm not going to complain because it's been very cold and rainy in Britain.

00:00:24.040 So I'm glad to see the back of it.

00:00:26.160 And obviously I am joined by Stelios, the Stelios, and Bo, the Bohawk, the ballistic missile.

00:00:36.680 I haven't done that in ages, but I can't come up with any new ones.

00:00:39.860 Onan the Brobarian?

00:00:42.380 That one will do, yeah.

00:00:43.520 That's not mine. It's truly cringe to come up with your own nicknames, right?

00:00:47.640 Someone on Twitter said that and I liked it.

00:00:51.020 And today we're going to be discussing how Sweden is basically a war zone.

00:00:54.660 Whether the AFD should be banned.

00:00:57.220 I'm imagining you're probably going to say no.

00:00:59.620 I'm going to say no, but I'm going to show all the debate.

00:01:03.000 And we're going to do good journalistic work saying the arguments for and against.

00:01:07.900 Okay.

00:01:08.780 And Bo is going to reminisce about five years of the post-Brexit world.

00:01:15.200 The five-year anniversary of Brexit.

00:01:17.600 And we're going to talk about it and what went down and what might happen in the future.

00:01:22.320 Because it does leave a lot to be desired the way it was done, doesn't it?

00:01:27.480 Yeah.

00:01:27.680 But I'm not going to get into the commentary now.

00:01:29.500 It's also worth mentioning as well, we do have an announcement that we have the gold Zoom call.

00:01:34.420 I think it is a panel of yours truly.

00:01:37.000 So that's the usual time of 3 o'clock, I believe, until about 3 p.m. our time until 4.30.

00:01:47.440 So an hour and a half.

00:01:48.540 If you want to talk to us, if you have questions for us, I think I'm also going to ask you what would you like to see from Trump.

00:01:55.620 And I'm going to potentially turn that into a bit of a segment at some point.

00:02:00.960 Our sort of wish list for what needs to be done.

00:02:04.080 So we can sort of mark how well he's doing relative to that.

00:02:08.580 Although he's already doing a great job.

00:02:10.240 But anyway, enough.

00:02:11.740 I've been going on for far too long.

00:02:13.380 Enough talk.

00:02:14.380 Yes.

00:02:14.840 You want news, don't you?

00:02:16.060 That's what you're here for.

00:02:16.980 You don't need blathering.

00:02:19.500 So Sweden has more or less become a war zone.

00:02:22.860 And I couldn't believe some of the things I was reading when I was researching this.

00:02:26.640 Like, I was actually speechless.

00:02:28.680 Which, considering I've been doing this for quite some time now, takes a lot.

00:02:33.040 And I didn't realise just how bad it was.

00:02:36.400 And I think the best epitomisation of this is this headline here.

00:02:39.700 More than one explosion a day in Sweden as gang violence spirals out of control.

00:02:45.120 And the byline is,

00:02:46.360 Sweden is facing an unprecedented wave of gang-related bombings with 32 explosions in 28 days,

00:02:53.320 prompting the government to consider lowering the criminal age to 14 as violence escalates

00:02:59.040 and criminals increasingly use financial extortion and digital recruitment to expand their operations.

00:03:04.200 So basically, loads of foreign criminal gangs have moved into Sweden.

00:03:09.240 No bonus marks for guessing their background because I think we all know.

00:03:14.200 It is the usual suspects.

00:03:16.720 Who likes doing this sort of thing?

00:03:18.540 Well, I think we know, don't we?

00:03:20.760 So, it's also the fact that they're using young teenagers, basically, as part of it.

00:03:26.780 Which is why Sweden's going after them.

00:03:29.120 And they're hiring people from abroad in a sort of marketplace of online criminality.

00:03:34.960 And there are, like, sort of set rates if you want to kill someone.

00:03:39.120 Apparently, it varies depending on which city in Sweden you're in.

00:03:44.700 It's €50,000 for one, €80,000 for another.

00:03:48.380 But they've sort of got a menu for crime because criminality has got so extensive.

00:03:54.500 And, of course, Sweden used to be one of the safest countries on planet Earth.

00:03:59.560 And so, this U-turn is not that the native Swedes have just decided, you know, what, you know, we're sick of peace and quiet.

00:04:05.780 We want crime.

00:04:07.200 No, it is not the natives, of course.

00:04:09.960 And Stockholm alone has witnessed 21 explosions in the past month, which is insane to me that a major European city can experience that level of what amounts to, basically, gangland terrorism.

00:04:26.680 This is a situation of emergency.

00:04:28.600 There was yesterday a post that listed the bombings that have taken place in January in Sweden.

00:04:35.520 And it literally reads like a band's tour schedule.

00:04:39.960 Literally, it's just insane.

00:04:43.120 Every single day.

00:04:44.380 Yeah, it's 30 bombings and it's the 31st of January.

00:04:48.900 I know, yeah.

00:04:49.640 Very tenacious, aren't they?

00:04:51.520 So, the Swedish Prime Minister has called the bombing crisis domestic terrorism, which I think is reasonable.

00:04:58.300 I think if someone's bombing, you know, every day, over, you know, twice a day sometimes, then I think that's fair to say.

00:05:06.940 And police have arrested 50 individuals in 25 different cases, including bomb makers, the perpetrators themselves planting the bombs, and the gang leaders operating from abroad, of course.

00:05:18.520 And apparently, the nature of these bombings has changed.

00:05:23.540 So, originally, it was about territorial disputes between various ethnic gangs.

00:05:29.200 And now, they're more being used as a retaliative measure to target businesses that refuse to be extorted.

00:05:36.180 So, it's deliberately...

00:05:36.800 Like a mafia.

00:05:37.420 Yeah, exactly.

00:05:37.960 And it seems to be that they're saying, you know, it's like extorting protection money, isn't it, really?

00:05:44.040 Like all mafias do.

00:05:46.320 In Sweden, of all places, like you said, it used to be one of the most homogenous, peaceful places in the world.

00:05:54.380 Mm-hmm.

00:05:56.420 I remember...

00:05:56.960 Terrible, terrible...

00:05:58.240 It's a tragedy, isn't it, that this has been imposed upon the Swedish people, because they don't deserve this.

00:06:05.040 Obviously, yeah.

00:06:06.260 And you can look at things like this as well.

00:06:09.520 Hand grenade attacks have more than doubled in 2024, and they're already quite high.

00:06:14.560 They're already insanely high.

00:06:15.940 Yeah, exactly.

00:06:16.640 What other country suffers from spates of grenade attacks?

00:06:21.880 Apparently, by mid-October, there had been 22 recorded grenade attacks, up from nine in 2023.

00:06:28.240 Which is nine too many, and certainly 22 too many.

00:06:33.300 And even in, you know, Britain, which is quite multicultural these days, we're not getting this level of things going, are we?

00:06:42.280 Of course, Sweden's a little bit further along than we are.

00:06:45.100 But even so, this is just...

00:06:47.460 I couldn't believe the actual scale of it.

00:06:49.860 It's worth mentioning as well that Sweden's got a population of 10.5 million, officially at least.

00:06:55.840 And so, these numbers might not seem high to you if you're American, and you live in a very big country.

00:07:04.200 But in Europe, in a small European country, you know, this is a similar population to that of the City of London.

00:07:11.940 And so, it would be unprecedented if, say, the City of London had seen a bombing every day.

00:07:18.760 The question is, why has this happened?

00:07:23.420 Because I'm not aware of any kind of vote of the Swedish to just open up the borders and just voluntarily put up with crime and mafias of the sort.

00:07:35.940 No, exactly.

00:07:36.720 So, it's also worth mentioning, three out of four murderers in Sweden are committed by migrants.

00:07:42.000 So, there's a hint at the picture of who's doing what here.

00:07:47.880 And, I mean, I don't know whether that remaining one quarter is people who've been there for multiple generations.

00:07:54.480 I didn't necessarily look into the specifics of it.

00:07:59.420 The issue, again, is the per capita.

00:08:01.400 Well, apparently, gun murders per capita in Stockholm are 30 times that of London.

00:08:06.860 And it goes on in London quite frequently, doesn't it, Beau?

00:08:09.960 Sorry, I'm asking you not because you're a gun criminal, but because you're familiar with the City of London compared to me.

00:08:16.060 Yeah.

00:08:16.640 I mean, Sweden, on the map geographically, is reasonably big.

00:08:20.700 But a lot of it is sort of, how to say it, not tundra exactly, but a lot of it isn't, it's not urbanised.

00:08:26.880 So, they've got a few cities, right, a few big cities.

00:08:30.400 It's very weighted towards the south.

00:08:31.720 And a few towns.

00:08:32.280 So, basically, they've been flooded with unbelievably violent criminals.

00:08:40.280 Some of the worst criminals in Europe, by the looks of it, and by the sounds of it.

00:08:45.560 I wonder why Sweden, of all places, because it's like, I don't think these things happen as badly, anyway,

00:08:52.800 in Norway or Denmark or Finland or Estonia, but specifically Sweden.

00:08:59.300 I wonder why exactly.

00:09:01.300 Well, I have some data to reveal that, but sorry, Steli.

00:09:04.300 No, no, before you say this data, I want to say that if anyone told me about this about a month ago,

00:09:10.340 I would say, no, this doesn't happen in Sweden.

00:09:14.260 But maybe there are so many other stuff that we haven't yet heard about, Scandinavia and other countries.

00:09:21.440 It could be that.

00:09:23.100 It's possible, yeah.

00:09:23.940 Although, some of the other countries, like the Danes, are pretty good on mass migration

00:09:29.440 in that they don't have much of it and they collect comprehensive data.

00:09:33.120 I'm willing to make a guess and say that it has to do a lot with welfarism.

00:09:38.060 I think that the Swedes are very generous in what they offer to foreigners

00:09:41.660 and also the kinds of people that have migrated to Sweden.

00:09:45.460 Let me give you a bit of a clue.

00:09:48.980 A man who burned the Koran was shot dead in his flat in Sweden recently.

00:09:53.100 He was actually going through court because of what he did.

00:09:56.840 And I think he was originally, well, I imagine he's still considered one, an Iraqi.

00:10:03.480 So it's interesting that presumably a former Muslim is there burning a Koran

00:10:09.720 and he doesn't even get through his court trial for doing so, which is also ridiculous.

00:10:15.460 Let it be said.

00:10:17.700 Before someone kills him.

00:10:20.320 In his own flat.

00:10:21.440 Yeah.

00:10:22.620 Shot dead overnight, apparently.

00:10:26.760 Unbelievable.

00:10:27.860 But yeah, this was just yesterday.

00:10:30.840 I didn't have to look far.

00:10:33.660 All of these things have happened in the past month.

00:10:37.400 So it's just going to show how extensive it is.

00:10:41.300 And yeah, it's talking about...

00:10:43.480 Isn't Sweden supposed to be socialist paradise?

00:10:46.540 Apparently so.

00:10:47.340 Apparently socialists just really like grenade attacks for some reason and killing people.

00:10:52.480 Well, that's true.

00:10:54.840 So also the person may be linked to a foreign power, Reuters is saying, for some reason.

00:11:00.120 So let's have a look at some of the data, shall we?

00:11:01.640 Here is Peter Sweden, aptly named as he is Swedish.

00:11:04.340 62,000 people are now involved in criminal gangs in Sweden.

00:11:09.080 Remember the population, 10.5 million.

00:11:11.120 We have almost 60 no-go zones.

00:11:13.860 There were 149 bombings last year.

00:11:16.420 We have one of the highest sexual assault rates in the world.

00:11:20.140 And he's saying that socialist policies destroyed Sweden, basically.

00:11:24.480 His home country.

00:11:25.740 And I can't disagree with that, really.

00:11:27.720 It seems pretty fair that both the combination of open borders and welfare is just a recipe for disaster here.

00:11:33.840 And we're seeing the consequences here.

00:11:35.880 You pay people to not work and also not assimilate.

00:11:41.300 Exactly.

00:11:41.680 And here I am, rather immodestly, showing one of my own tweets, but it illustrates an important point.

00:11:48.360 If you look at gun crime deaths as a per capita rate, Sweden is lodged between Albania and Bosnia.

00:11:57.240 And what is significant about Albania and Bosnia?

00:12:00.580 Well, they are the two Muslim-majority countries in Europe.

00:12:04.740 And so the fact that Sweden's in between them is a little bit prophetic.

00:12:07.780 It tells you something about the kind of people that might have migrated there.

00:12:10.840 And, in fact, we know that a lot of these people are from Islamic countries.

00:12:15.420 And if we go to some other data, here we are.

00:12:22.940 We can see relative.

00:12:25.020 The blue line is those of a Swedish background, as the data labels it.

00:12:31.520 And the sort of pinkish-y color is difficult to tell because the screen glare here is the first-generation immigrant.

00:12:38.980 And then the green is the second-generation.

00:12:42.080 And as we can see, deadly violence and robbery relative to the natives, massively over-represented.

00:12:50.560 But also the second-generations lead the way by a pretty decent margin.

00:12:55.220 You know, crimes against life and health, the first-generation, and crimes against liberty and peace.

00:13:02.420 I don't even know what that means.

00:13:04.640 Sexual crimes, the first-generations are over-represented.

00:13:07.500 Which, these sorts of things mirror the nature of crime all across Europe, really.

00:13:12.320 We can see certain crimes where the first-generation are more likely to commit it than the second-generation.

00:13:20.440 But also some of the worst ones, like deadly violence, for example.

00:13:25.100 It's the second-generation of immigrant that's doing it.

00:13:29.000 And so the problem isn't simply just the people who were born abroad and moved here.

00:13:32.680 It's also their children.

00:13:34.420 And even more so, in some cases, their children.

00:13:37.100 Think about, say, the Southport killer.

00:13:40.600 He was second-generation, and look what he did.

00:13:44.120 And so it's very obvious to me that the problem isn't so much just, oh, it's assimilation.

00:13:50.620 Because, no, actually, the more time people spend there, the worse they get.

00:13:54.400 Not better, relative to the native population.

00:13:57.600 And it's something that the native population shouldn't have to put up with.

00:14:00.960 And here is some more stuff here.

00:14:06.120 This is some Swedish data.

00:14:09.340 So this is, I think, the backgrounds.

00:14:12.740 So North African and African other are massively overrepresented.

00:14:19.140 Central Asia and West Asia.

00:14:21.980 So some of the more Muslim countries, Pakistanis perhaps.

00:14:26.660 And then we can see here, like, US, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand

00:14:30.800 is basically on parity with those of Swedish background.

00:14:34.880 And Nordics, except Sweden, only slightly overrepresented, but not by the same degree

00:14:40.880 as countries outside of Europe.

00:14:44.660 Countries outside of Europe are just massively overrepresented, except for maybe South Asia

00:14:49.960 and, you know, East Asia as well is actually underrepresented, which mirrors entirely what

00:14:56.720 we've been saying for years.

00:14:58.620 Chinese or Koreans or Japanese.

00:15:00.480 Yeah, exactly.

00:15:01.040 What's interesting is that the Swedes themselves are not very criminal.

00:15:06.580 No.

00:15:07.000 The native Swedes.

00:15:08.940 As we know from the era before they opened their borders.

00:15:12.980 Exactly.

00:15:13.280 Very, very peaceful country.

00:15:14.140 It's not that the Swedes themselves have changed.

00:15:17.640 It's the nature of who is Swedish.

00:15:20.300 An entirely imported crime wave.

00:15:23.560 Yeah, it was entirely preventable.

00:15:24.980 The very worst types of crime.

00:15:26.080 Yeah, it is the worst types of crime.

00:15:27.600 And it's something that's entirely preventable and was politically imposed upon them,

00:15:32.240 much the same as lots of other European countries.

00:15:34.520 If we go back to the addition and the conjunction between open borders and welfarism, you see

00:15:41.140 how this all is a respite for disaster because it says essentially let their borders be open

00:15:48.540 and let us just give too much money as social provisions and let us just increase spending

00:15:55.700 for social provisions.

00:15:56.880 And this actually has a hidden layer of evil behind it because it literally lends to the narrative of

00:16:05.000 all this is an issue of insufficient money given to people who perpetrate such crime.

00:16:13.080 Because if you have a welfarist background, a very leftist, welfarist mindset,

00:16:17.900 and you think that all crime comes from lack of economic prospects,

00:16:22.000 then the only way to react to this is by saying, well, let us just flatten out economic inequalities.

00:16:31.000 Let us tax the Swedish more in order to give more money to these people so crime diminishes.

00:16:37.560 And of course, that will make the problem worse, won't it?

00:16:39.620 And we can look at things like Danish data and the Danes keep very good records of the nationality

00:16:46.480 of origin and crime conviction rates here.

00:16:49.700 And you can see that lots of countries like Kuwait, Somalia, Lebanon, Tunisia, Jordan, Uganda, Iraq,

00:16:57.960 Morocco, Algeria, Ethiopia, Syria, Afghanistan, Egypt, Iran, Turkey, Kenya, Ghana,

00:17:03.820 all overrepresented for some reason Myanmar is up there.

00:17:07.560 I didn't realise they'd get many people from there.

00:17:09.680 But Pakistan, Tanzania.

00:17:11.100 So basically it is Africa and the Islamic world that are massively overrepresented.

00:17:17.140 And then you start getting to European countries down here in the light blue.

00:17:21.880 And there's such a clear distinction between the two here, aren't there?

00:17:26.820 That, you know, you're not getting...

00:17:29.120 Yeah, you'd say that also for Europe, the Danish are a bit rambunctious.

00:17:35.040 It's funny, I've seen this stuff before and I'm always surprised, it's surprising to me

00:17:42.980 that Kuwait, because Kuwait's number one there, Kuwait's tiny.

00:17:46.620 But that's because of the per capita aspect of it, isn't it?

00:17:49.020 Like, you wouldn't, you could have one violent...

00:17:51.780 So there's one crazy Kuwaiti gang.

00:17:53.860 And that'll bump it right up.

00:17:55.000 And then, of course, there's lots of data here from Austria, Belgium, Finland, France, Greece, Ireland, Italy and Sweden

00:18:05.220 that the migrants are a net fiscal drain.

00:18:09.580 So I think Sweden is this last one here.

00:18:13.040 So you can see...

00:18:13.780 But non-EU, it was saying.

00:18:15.120 Yes, so we've got the natives here in dark blue that contribute the most and take the least.

00:18:21.840 Then intra-EU, slightly less so.

00:18:25.080 And then extra-EU, you can see that the amount that they actually contribute to the economy

00:18:30.400 doesn't outweigh the amount they take from it in later life.

00:18:35.320 So they're not net contributors at all, actually.

00:18:37.860 And you can see that very clearly here, that this part of the graph under the line

00:18:43.820 is much more significant than the part over it.

00:18:47.380 It's not even close.

00:18:48.860 In fact, it's almost two to one, just from eyeballing it.

00:18:52.460 And it may well be that they take twice as much as they provide.

00:18:56.220 And so, yes, Sweden has imported foreign criminals

00:19:00.220 who basically tyrannise and terrorise the native population.

00:19:06.240 And they're paying for it in the same way that many other European countries are as well.

00:19:11.420 And here is precisely what is going to happen

00:19:14.940 if you add DEI, inequality of opportunity, and all these things.

00:19:18.640 Again, it's going to lead towards a narrative that says,

00:19:22.060 let us give even more material provisions.

00:19:24.700 Well, what would happen would be all of the peaks would lower

00:19:27.780 and everyone would be worse off, wouldn't they?

00:19:31.320 That's how it would work.

00:19:32.680 So I'm going to quickly fire through what is actually being done.

00:19:34.920 And I'm just going to say what's happening ever so quickly

00:19:37.980 and then summarise what needs to be done further.

00:19:41.880 So in September of 23, they introduced new rules for labour migrants.

00:19:47.060 Basically, work permits will only be made available to those labour migrants in Sweden

00:19:51.320 who earn a salary of at least 80% of the Swedish median salary.

00:19:55.240 That was to mitigate some of the financial damage that it's doing.

00:19:58.500 And then in October of 23, they made it harder for non-European migrants to claim benefits.

00:20:06.560 And then in August of 24, they were discussing paying Swedish passport holders that are foreign-born

00:20:13.200 the equivalent of 1,000 US dollars to leave Sweden,

00:20:17.360 basically paying a sort of Dane geld to get rid of the foreign gangs.

00:20:21.920 But of course, if you've got an illegal, they can just keep on coming back

00:20:25.600 and rinsing you of that grand each time.

00:20:27.860 Although, I still think it would be better than doing nothing,

00:20:32.580 even though I think the idea of paying foreign people that are extorting you money to leave is weak.

00:20:38.000 And you shouldn't have to resort to that.

00:20:40.360 It's got to be the Bukele solution.

00:20:43.640 Imprison them, yeah.

00:20:44.600 You just round up everyone involved, known to be involved,

00:20:48.380 and you put them in a maximum security prison for a long, long, long time.

00:20:52.620 Well, if they're not native, get rid of them.

00:20:54.760 Yeah, and or deport them.

00:20:57.160 Yeah, at the end, either before or at the end of their sentence, they're deported.

00:21:01.580 Just not allowed in the general population anymore.

00:21:05.000 Well, they're obviously not safe, aren't they?

00:21:06.380 It's not allowed among normal civilised humans.

00:21:09.200 Mm-hmm.

00:21:10.640 God's sake.

00:21:11.940 And here's another one.

00:21:13.400 This was from August of 24 as well.

00:21:15.920 Basically, they introduced a law which would force public sector workers

00:21:18.900 to report undocumented migrants, basically.

00:21:22.160 And, of course, this is the Guardian saying it's utterly inhumane

00:21:26.260 to report people illegally in your country if you're a public official,

00:21:31.020 which is obviously ridiculous.

00:21:33.600 Do they have any article now saying how inhumane the bombings are?

00:21:38.880 No.

00:21:39.600 Funnily enough, they don't.

00:21:40.640 Oh, the humanity of those victims, that doesn't matter.

00:21:43.260 Yeah.

00:21:44.160 Some people are more human than others.

00:21:46.380 So here in October, they were having tougher rules.

00:21:50.560 They actually talked about introducing DNA testing

00:21:53.720 to see if someone was part of a family before reunifying them.

00:21:57.680 I personally think that who cares?

00:22:00.480 If you've come to the country, if anything, you should be removed.

00:22:02.920 If you want to join your family, you can all go back home.

00:22:05.660 You don't all have to move here, do you?

00:22:07.780 You don't have a right to another person's country

00:22:10.620 to bring your whole family across.

00:22:12.320 That's never, ever been something that has existed until recently,

00:22:16.840 which is ridiculous as well, of course.

00:22:19.600 And they are actually getting a bit more serious

00:22:21.800 about addressing these problems

00:22:22.960 because they're pretty obvious now, aren't they?

00:22:25.020 And there was this story,

00:22:27.340 which people leaving Sweden will exceed immigrants in 2024,

00:22:31.140 but it wasn't quite true.

00:22:33.740 Here's another one.

00:22:34.720 This was European Conservative reporting the same thing.

00:22:37.140 It went around, but actually,

00:22:38.820 if you read a Swedish language thing,

00:22:41.000 which is translated here,

00:22:42.580 it was just that the tax agency had a backlog

00:22:45.400 of things it was processing

00:22:46.660 and then processed loads of them at once,

00:22:48.940 which made it look like there was net immigration.

00:22:51.140 So it was just an administration thing

00:22:54.240 rather than a net emigration.

00:22:57.660 And there is this, though,

00:23:01.480 as of the 30th of January, yesterday,

00:23:03.820 a record number of foreigners

00:23:05.200 are leaving Sweden to move to Germany.

00:23:07.160 And what does that say about the foreigners?

00:23:09.880 Well, what it says is

00:23:11.000 that they're going to a country

00:23:12.260 with more lucrative welfare.

00:23:14.040 It's not so much that Sweden

00:23:17.540 stopped being appealing to them,

00:23:19.240 it's just that they can get a better gig elsewhere,

00:23:21.220 which suggests, to my mind,

00:23:23.160 that they're only there to rinse

00:23:24.300 the native Swedes off their money

00:23:25.560 and then they're going to leave,

00:23:27.040 which is obvious.

00:23:28.220 They are transigent.

00:23:29.500 Exactly, yeah.

00:23:30.580 Yeah, whatever's the best deal for them,

00:23:32.580 the actual physically where you live,

00:23:35.500 doesn't matter that much.

00:23:39.140 They've got no roots to the land.

00:23:42.040 Well, of course they don't,

00:23:43.040 because they're from abroad.

00:23:43.800 And this is one of the measures

00:23:46.960 that is being taken

00:23:49.340 to potentially address the concerns,

00:23:50.880 because they've got full prisons

00:23:52.820 and they don't know what to do

00:23:54.560 with all of the people

00:23:55.260 that they need to send to prison.

00:23:56.540 And they're actually looking

00:23:57.480 at sending inmates abroad

00:23:58.720 as their prisons are full

00:24:00.060 in this crime wave.

00:24:01.940 And another thing

00:24:03.020 that they were looking at doing

00:24:04.060 was fast-tracking a new law

00:24:06.980 to tackle these bombings

00:24:08.420 by allowing the police, basically,

00:24:11.940 to wiretap people under the age of 15,

00:24:15.120 because previously, obviously,

00:24:16.960 there were ethical concerns.

00:24:18.080 But because these foreign criminal gangs

00:24:20.300 are using teenagers and young people,

00:24:22.820 it gives them a certain level

00:24:24.600 of protection within the law.

00:24:26.120 And so you have to change the law

00:24:27.320 to actually tackle these people

00:24:28.940 because they're using the fact

00:24:30.080 that they're young

00:24:30.740 to get around the law

00:24:32.320 and not get punished.

00:24:33.660 So these, within quotation marks,

00:24:36.280 humane policies have led

00:24:38.100 to the state contemplating

00:24:39.700 wiretapping teenagers.

00:24:41.440 Yes.

00:24:42.780 So just an extra layer

00:24:44.520 of scumbag behaviour

00:24:46.400 is that they use children loads for this.

00:24:49.060 So that was what you led with

00:24:49.960 right at the top,

00:24:50.600 which I wasn't aware of

00:24:51.520 about the extremely young age

00:24:54.180 of the people involved.

00:24:55.320 So, yeah, just an extra layer

00:24:57.260 of filth

00:24:59.140 that these people are engaged in.

00:25:01.620 Like, this is one of those things

00:25:02.840 that I think is just undeniably

00:25:05.840 a completely negative picture

00:25:08.720 of immigration.

00:25:09.500 The Swedes have gained

00:25:10.700 nothing but negatives

00:25:11.880 from this so-called deal.

00:25:14.940 And, I mean,

00:25:15.260 you look at other statistics as well,

00:25:17.600 like, was it four or five Italian women

00:25:21.400 get raped every day

00:25:22.660 by a foreigner?

00:25:24.800 You know, the rates of crime in France.

00:25:27.180 It's clearly a scourge on Europe.

00:25:30.300 We were much better off

00:25:31.500 before mass migration.

00:25:32.740 And it's entirely obvious

00:25:35.000 to anyone that has

00:25:36.200 a rudimentary look

00:25:37.060 at the data

00:25:37.760 about what's going on,

00:25:39.480 about how it's impacting

00:25:41.160 the native population.

00:25:42.840 And at least Sweden's

00:25:44.840 trying to do stuff

00:25:45.940 to fix it.

00:25:47.600 And I think they're going to be

00:25:48.300 one of the countries

00:25:49.220 because they're so badly

00:25:50.400 affected by it.

00:25:51.460 It's going to be leading the way

00:25:53.020 in pushing back against this.

00:25:54.740 And hopefully,

00:25:55.900 they're going to get to a point

00:25:57.480 where they actually address

00:25:58.720 the real solution to this,

00:26:00.240 which is mass deportations.

00:26:02.020 I don't see any other scenario

00:26:04.100 working better than that.

00:26:07.280 Surely, in Sweden's case,

00:26:09.760 re-migration is inevitable.

00:26:11.740 Oh, yes.

00:26:12.360 I know that's one of the...

00:26:13.420 It's re-migration or be conquered.

00:26:15.360 Yeah.

00:26:16.420 Those are the options.

00:26:17.660 And I know which one

00:26:18.320 I would pick as a Swede.

00:26:19.800 I know some people say,

00:26:21.260 when I say things like this,

00:26:23.400 various people in the

00:26:24.520 dissident right say things like this.

00:26:27.180 I wrote an article, didn't I,

00:26:28.220 saying re-migration is inevitable.

00:26:30.240 I'm not the first one

00:26:31.520 in the world to have said it,

00:26:32.400 but...

00:26:33.180 Some people say

00:26:36.160 that that's just cope.

00:26:38.040 That's never going to happen.

00:26:39.480 You're a far-right fantasist,

00:26:41.120 whatever.

00:26:41.900 People actually don't want that.

00:26:43.520 Da-da-da-da-da.

00:26:44.400 But it's obviously

00:26:45.040 what needs to be done.

00:26:46.260 Yeah, but it's...

00:26:46.760 But it actually...

00:26:47.520 I honestly think that is true.

00:26:49.240 It must be inevitable.

00:26:50.620 It's not even like

00:26:51.200 a rhetorical device.

00:26:52.300 Right.

00:26:52.580 It's just...

00:26:53.620 If our country

00:26:55.720 is to continue existing,

00:26:57.140 you know,

00:26:57.360 I say that for all

00:26:58.280 European countries,

00:26:58.940 if our nations in Europe

00:27:00.040 are to continue existing,

00:27:01.340 we need to send people home

00:27:03.100 because we can't coexist.

00:27:05.440 For Sweden,

00:27:05.940 it's simply a bit further

00:27:07.160 down the road,

00:27:08.020 is all.

00:27:08.960 Yeah, exactly.

00:27:09.700 That's all it is.

00:27:10.880 Like, there's a very...

00:27:11.640 Smaller petri dish,

00:27:12.600 so it's more obvious,

00:27:13.300 more quickly.

00:27:13.980 You can even sort of

00:27:15.000 put countries on a hierarchy.

00:27:16.980 So Japan's just started

00:27:18.280 getting mass migration.

00:27:19.640 Right.

00:27:19.820 And you can see them

00:27:21.380 going through

00:27:22.380 exactly the same motions

00:27:23.660 that all the European countries have.

00:27:25.640 Almost, you know,

00:27:26.740 note for note.

00:27:27.860 So it's almost like

00:27:28.820 a textbook,

00:27:29.460 a playbook.

00:27:30.180 A pattern.

00:27:30.820 A pattern, exactly,

00:27:32.240 that it operates under.

00:27:33.300 But yes,

00:27:33.980 if you live in Sweden,

00:27:35.080 I honestly hope you stay safe.

00:27:37.840 Yeah.

00:27:38.240 And I hope your government

00:27:39.920 can actually do something.

00:27:41.140 And if they do,

00:27:42.320 you're going to be

00:27:43.940 helping Europe

00:27:44.720 because you're going to be

00:27:45.400 setting a president

00:27:46.200 to show that actually

00:27:48.440 you can get these things

00:27:49.660 under control.

00:27:50.560 And I really hope

00:27:51.560 that it does work.

00:27:56.100 Okay, we've got a few

00:27:57.000 rumble chats.

00:27:58.080 Here you are, Stelios.

00:27:59.240 Thank you.

00:28:01.060 So,

00:28:01.900 Habsification says

00:28:02.680 a 25-year-old woman

00:28:03.640 in North Wales

00:28:04.220 was found guilty

00:28:05.000 and is being charged

00:28:05.960 in the UK's

00:28:06.740 first ever

00:28:07.240 cyber-farting case.

00:28:09.220 Welcome to

00:28:09.880 woke North Korea.

00:28:11.100 I need to look into that.

00:28:12.120 How cyber-farting?

00:28:13.580 What is cyber-farting?

00:28:15.320 What is that?

00:28:16.600 Do I want that

00:28:17.400 on my search history?

00:28:18.340 I don't think so.

00:28:20.000 I'm going to do it anyway

00:28:20.820 just for you.

00:28:22.380 Neo Unrealist says

00:28:23.300 it's almost as if

00:28:24.060 there was a reason

00:28:24.600 why European Christendom

00:28:25.820 fought for centuries

00:28:26.560 to keep Muslims out.

00:28:27.860 The Reconquista,

00:28:28.940 Siege of Vienna,

00:28:29.740 Battle of Lepanto,

00:28:31.540 Ottomans in the Balkans,

00:28:32.840 stopping was folly.

00:28:34.280 I agree.

00:28:35.480 The Engaged Few says

00:28:36.460 Sweden should try

00:28:37.300 a more effective incentive.

00:28:39.500 Walk the immigrants.

00:28:43.740 Oh, blimey.

00:28:44.980 Can I read that?

00:28:46.520 Basically say

00:28:47.640 you can either leave

00:28:50.700 or bad things happen.

00:28:52.580 Thanks for the Fed post.

00:28:55.600 Sayoran says

00:28:56.560 I remember in like 2018

00:28:58.240 when Tim Paul interviewed

00:28:59.400 a Swede about the no-go zones

00:29:00.820 and had to black out

00:29:02.220 the person's face

00:29:03.020 and disguise their voice

00:29:03.980 when the Liberal government

00:29:04.980 was still in power.

00:29:06.100 That's true.

00:29:06.640 And then he also says

00:29:09.540 Stelios looks

00:29:10.380 simultaneously

00:29:10.980 25 and 50 years old

00:29:12.840 with those glasses on.

00:29:15.180 I'm working on

00:29:16.240 my various disguises.

00:29:17.880 As I said,

00:29:19.560 every podcast appearance

00:29:21.240 is different.

00:29:22.320 I'm reinventing my image.

00:29:24.560 This is the Stelios today

00:29:26.160 by the way.

00:29:26.780 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:29:27.380 When he takes them off,

00:29:28.560 when he takes the glasses off,

00:29:29.620 he's just Stelios.

00:29:30.320 I tried the hobo Stelios,

00:29:32.440 but it didn't work.

00:29:34.260 I didn't like it.

00:29:35.280 We had it on Lads Hour

00:29:36.320 last week.

00:29:36.920 I said,

00:29:37.200 just put a shark

00:29:38.420 on my face.

00:29:41.640 Right.

00:29:41.960 Okay, so I'm going to follow

00:29:44.380 a rigid structure

00:29:45.900 in this one

00:29:46.540 because I have several things

00:29:48.060 I want to say

00:29:48.860 and there are going to be

00:29:51.020 elections in Germany

00:29:51.980 on the 23rd of February

00:29:53.500 and everyone now

00:29:55.600 is really anxious

00:29:57.240 to see what is going to happen

00:29:58.520 and there are debates

00:30:00.460 as to whether the AFD

00:30:01.580 should be banned.

00:30:02.620 They are ongoing

00:30:03.320 and now they have been reignited.

00:30:05.500 Now, let me give you

00:30:06.680 short context

00:30:07.640 about what happened

00:30:08.340 these days.

00:30:09.380 Two days ago,

00:30:10.520 the CDU

00:30:11.080 passed a proposal

00:30:13.900 that was voted

00:30:15.240 by 348

00:30:17.000 members of

00:30:18.000 the German parliament

00:30:19.320 and it won

00:30:21.020 and it passed

00:30:22.200 with the help

00:30:22.800 of AFD members.

00:30:25.200 So that was the first,

00:30:27.340 let's say,

00:30:28.200 teaming up

00:30:28.840 of a mainstream party

00:30:30.700 and the AFD

00:30:31.620 which broke the taboo.

00:30:33.440 Was that party,

00:30:33.820 was it the Christian Democrats?

00:30:34.900 Yes, yes.

00:30:35.620 Are they the biggest party

00:30:36.720 as well, is that right?

00:30:37.340 They are, yes.

00:30:38.340 And Merkel's party, right?

00:30:39.980 Right, so that broke

00:30:42.260 the taboo

00:30:42.780 that no mainstream party

00:30:44.340 was going to ever collaborate

00:30:45.900 with the AFD

00:30:46.760 that they call

00:30:47.380 the firewall.

00:30:49.180 Right, so a lot of people,

00:30:50.820 Angela Merkel is one of them,

00:30:52.480 went out and said

00:30:53.260 this is shameful,

00:30:54.860 no one should collaborate

00:30:56.360 with the AFD

00:30:57.240 and lots of people

00:30:59.680 went out,

00:31:00.420 lots of leftists

00:31:01.280 went out to protest.

00:31:02.720 Here we have

00:31:03.360 people outside

00:31:05.220 the CDU

00:31:06.340 offices

00:31:07.740 that were evacuated

00:31:09.900 and

00:31:11.100 Naomi

00:31:12.020 is asking,

00:31:13.760 you know,

00:31:13.980 who is funding them

00:31:14.960 and basically

00:31:15.900 says that NGOs

00:31:17.000 paid by

00:31:17.720 taxpayer money.

00:31:20.160 That's what happens

00:31:20.880 in a lot of other countries,

00:31:21.920 isn't it?

00:31:22.300 So it wouldn't surprise me.

00:31:23.480 Exactly,

00:31:23.920 and you had a lot,

00:31:24.840 you had essentially

00:31:25.960 a far leftist mob

00:31:27.320 that went out

00:31:28.160 the CDU headquarters

00:31:29.600 and actually led

00:31:31.240 to them being evacuated

00:31:32.580 because they protested,

00:31:34.620 you know,

00:31:34.780 some far leftists.

00:31:36.560 If that were the other way round,

00:31:38.180 say the AFD

00:31:39.020 went to another party's

00:31:40.380 headquarters

00:31:40.980 and protested,

00:31:41.920 they'd be like,

00:31:42.360 that's an act

00:31:42.820 of domestic terrorism.

00:31:44.260 And this is exactly

00:31:45.000 what happens

00:31:46.840 with the constant

00:31:48.660 bombardment

00:31:49.520 of public discussion

00:31:51.140 with the notion

00:31:51.800 of the far right

00:31:52.560 and the smearing

00:31:53.560 because any person

00:31:55.200 who has an actually

00:31:57.140 right-wing

00:31:58.320 or center-right-wing

00:31:59.660 perspective

00:32:00.920 gets constantly

00:32:02.540 bombarded

00:32:03.120 with accusations

00:32:03.880 of being far right

00:32:04.940 and actually

00:32:05.820 they can't talk.

00:32:07.780 It's much more difficult

00:32:09.040 for the public

00:32:09.800 to listen to what

00:32:10.620 they have to say

00:32:11.660 because they constantly

00:32:12.600 have to answer

00:32:13.240 to smears,

00:32:13.940 but no one is

00:32:14.740 pointing attention

00:32:15.520 to the far left

00:32:16.480 and how undemocratic

00:32:17.800 they are

00:32:18.340 and how much

00:32:19.260 of a constitutional risk

00:32:20.560 they represent.

00:32:22.180 Right,

00:32:22.360 so the vote

00:32:23.920 will be held

00:32:25.000 in Parliament today

00:32:25.860 and whether to start

00:32:26.680 a process

00:32:27.240 to try to ban

00:32:28.020 the AFD party.

00:32:29.760 113 MPs

00:32:30.900 are saying

00:32:31.680 that the AFD

00:32:32.500 is unconstitutional.

00:32:34.380 It should be declared

00:32:35.320 unconstitutional

00:32:36.200 by the federal court

00:32:38.300 and if banned

00:32:40.240 the party

00:32:40.660 will lose

00:32:41.320 all the seats

00:32:42.000 and all assemblies

00:32:42.820 and assets

00:32:43.380 would be confiscated.

00:32:44.720 Now,

00:32:45.000 we will go back

00:32:46.100 towards the end

00:32:47.080 to Article 21

00:32:48.040 of the German

00:32:49.340 Constitution

00:32:50.200 that says

00:32:51.040 essentially

00:32:51.540 that if

00:32:52.260 a party

00:32:53.140 is consistently

00:32:55.400 showing

00:32:56.480 signs

00:32:57.700 that it is

00:32:58.420 going to be

00:32:59.080 unconstitutional

00:32:59.980 and disrespectful

00:33:00.860 of the

00:33:01.760 democratic order

00:33:03.440 of Germany,

00:33:04.260 it can be banned.

00:33:06.680 Parties have been

00:33:07.640 banned before,

00:33:08.400 even after World War II.

00:33:09.740 We had two bans

00:33:10.500 I think in the 50s,

00:33:11.760 a communist group

00:33:12.580 and another group

00:33:13.260 that was supposed

00:33:14.880 to be a continuation

00:33:15.840 of the Austrian

00:33:16.880 Painters Party.

00:33:17.620 So,

00:33:19.480 could I say

00:33:20.200 something?

00:33:20.580 Yes,

00:33:20.600 quite quickly.

00:33:21.480 So,

00:33:22.320 those MPs

00:33:24.200 I think are

00:33:24.600 well aware,

00:33:26.020 I don't think

00:33:26.820 you can exist

00:33:27.420 in Germany

00:33:27.900 without knowing

00:33:28.680 both

00:33:29.580 previous German

00:33:31.600 administration's

00:33:32.520 policies

00:33:32.940 and the AFD's

00:33:34.140 policies

00:33:34.500 and I'm pretty sure

00:33:35.860 that they know

00:33:36.600 full well

00:33:37.820 that they're

00:33:39.100 very different

00:33:39.820 and painting them

00:33:41.580 as the same

00:33:42.400 is silly

00:33:42.940 because I think

00:33:43.680 the AFD

00:33:44.400 is quite a liberal

00:33:45.260 party

00:33:45.820 it's quite

00:33:47.580 constitutionalist

00:33:48.700 it wants

00:33:49.180 separation of powers

00:33:50.120 it wants to

00:33:50.540 limit the state

00:33:51.460 and things like that

00:33:52.500 it's liberal

00:33:52.900 in a more

00:33:53.300 classical sense

00:33:54.080 isn't it?

00:33:54.720 And I think

00:33:55.040 that that's fair

00:33:55.580 to say

00:33:56.060 and I think

00:33:56.780 that what

00:33:57.080 they're doing

00:33:57.660 they're well aware

00:33:59.700 that there is

00:34:00.240 this very clear

00:34:01.400 distinction

00:34:01.920 and yet they're

00:34:03.140 pushing ahead

00:34:03.620 with it anyway

00:34:04.120 and I think

00:34:04.540 it's cynical

00:34:05.520 politics

00:34:06.140 more than

00:34:06.640 an actual

00:34:07.260 legitimate

00:34:07.740 concern.

00:34:09.120 We will get

00:34:09.940 there

00:34:10.280 and talk

00:34:11.080 about their

00:34:11.500 manifesto

00:34:12.100 which is

00:34:12.660 as you said

00:34:13.540 very

00:34:13.980 I would say

00:34:14.580 classically liberal.

00:34:15.820 It's classical

00:34:17.480 liberalism

00:34:18.000 basically

00:34:18.320 it's not

00:34:19.580 something weird

00:34:20.200 especially in

00:34:21.460 economics

00:34:21.880 it's for

00:34:22.520 deregulation

00:34:23.420 against

00:34:24.120 bureaucracy

00:34:24.680 and

00:34:26.000 everyone knows

00:34:27.220 that those

00:34:27.680 the Austrian

00:34:28.580 painter's policies

00:34:29.420 he loved

00:34:29.980 liberalism

00:34:30.520 for some reason

00:34:31.260 right

00:34:31.840 so I will

00:34:32.700 mention

00:34:33.460 why the people

00:34:34.300 who want to ban it

00:34:35.140 want to ban it

00:34:35.780 and the reasons

00:34:36.320 they cite

00:34:36.820 but also the

00:34:37.880 arguments to the

00:34:39.000 opposite side

00:34:39.560 now

00:34:40.100 remember the

00:34:41.160 number 113

00:34:42.480 three months ago

00:34:44.300 this is

00:34:45.280 again

00:34:46.540 113

00:34:47.880 members of

00:34:48.500 parliament

00:34:48.920 signed

00:34:50.240 a document

00:34:52.880 that says

00:34:53.460 that the

00:34:53.840 AFD should

00:34:54.900 be banned

00:34:55.300 so it's

00:34:56.020 nothing new

00:34:56.760 exactly

00:34:57.180 it didn't

00:34:57.580 happen

00:34:58.040 yesterday

00:34:58.900 or two

00:34:59.280 days ago

00:34:59.680 for the

00:35:00.000 first time

00:35:00.500 there are

00:35:01.460 lots of

00:35:02.060 MPs who

00:35:02.580 think that

00:35:02.960 the AFD

00:35:03.760 should be

00:35:04.180 banned

00:35:04.440 and

00:35:05.100 it looks

00:35:06.280 like there

00:35:06.700 are 113

00:35:07.520 here

00:35:08.020 and

00:35:09.120 it's a bit

00:35:09.620 of a failure

00:35:10.080 of a political

00:35:10.620 system

00:35:11.060 that you can

00:35:11.760 vote to ban

00:35:12.800 your political

00:35:13.480 opposition

00:35:14.140 I think that

00:35:15.880 you shouldn't

00:35:16.480 have that

00:35:17.060 in a political

00:35:17.580 system

00:35:18.080 at all

00:35:18.860 well it's

00:35:19.440 very democratic

00:35:20.380 let's say

00:35:20.960 it's very

00:35:22.160 the people

00:35:22.660 vote for a party

00:35:23.500 you decide

00:35:24.100 that they're

00:35:24.480 too naughty

00:35:25.140 and they ban

00:35:25.920 there's been a

00:35:26.380 movement in

00:35:26.940 Germany since

00:35:27.680 day one

00:35:28.280 that's gunning

00:35:29.320 for AFD's

00:35:30.580 prescription

00:35:31.840 and destruction

00:35:32.540 yes

00:35:33.220 it's certainly

00:35:33.960 not new

00:35:34.560 yes

00:35:35.360 so I want

00:35:36.500 to present

00:35:37.540 the whole

00:35:38.160 discussion

00:35:38.740 and arguments

00:35:39.700 for and

00:35:40.160 against the

00:35:40.620 ban

00:35:40.840 and also

00:35:41.520 use my

00:35:42.440 arguments

00:35:42.820 towards the

00:35:43.780 end

00:35:44.000 but I

00:35:44.600 really want

00:35:45.240 to show

00:35:46.160 people

00:35:46.540 the concerns

00:35:47.520 and also

00:35:48.260 the replies

00:35:49.580 right

00:35:50.440 so

00:35:51.020 what happens

00:35:52.660 is that

00:35:53.180 I won't say

00:35:53.820 that there are

00:35:54.200 two sides

00:35:54.700 on the debate

00:35:55.780 some people

00:35:56.680 say it's

00:35:57.160 the legal

00:35:58.280 and the

00:35:58.660 political

00:35:59.020 I think

00:35:59.500 that's a

00:35:59.820 completely

00:36:00.180 wrong way

00:36:01.100 to carve

00:36:01.520 up the

00:36:02.040 discussion

00:36:03.620 I would

00:36:04.320 say it's

00:36:04.680 the

00:36:05.040 intelligence

00:36:05.860 agency

00:36:06.580 side of

00:36:07.140 things

00:36:07.500 and the

00:36:08.960 political

00:36:09.320 side of

00:36:09.800 things

00:36:10.060 and I

00:36:11.620 will say

00:36:12.120 I don't

00:36:13.840 have any

00:36:14.560 let's say

00:36:15.280 intelligence

00:36:16.320 access to

00:36:17.080 intelligence

00:36:17.500 agency

00:36:18.020 I simply

00:36:19.000 don't know

00:36:19.560 and I

00:36:19.940 don't have

00:36:20.460 any

00:36:20.860 I don't

00:36:22.820 have

00:36:23.020 what

00:36:23.400 you're doing

00:36:23.980 yourself a

00:36:24.380 disservice

00:36:24.820 there

00:36:25.080 Stelios

00:36:25.440 you don't

00:36:25.840 have any

00:36:26.140 intelligence

00:36:26.620 I think

00:36:27.340 you're a

00:36:27.880 bit better

00:36:28.200 off than

00:36:28.500 that

00:36:28.740 you know

00:36:30.800 what I

00:36:31.100 mean

00:36:31.280 Josh

00:36:31.580 right

00:36:32.620 so there

00:36:33.760 have been

00:36:34.420 several

00:36:34.800 arguments

00:36:35.360 as to

00:36:36.840 why the

00:36:37.280 AFD

00:36:37.620 should be

00:36:38.020 banned

00:36:38.200 the people

00:36:38.600 who say

00:36:39.040 that it

00:36:39.340 should be

00:36:39.700 banned

00:36:39.980 are

00:36:40.580 routinely

00:36:41.120 saying

00:36:41.660 that

00:36:42.160 first of

00:36:43.080 all

00:36:43.300 some

00:36:44.140 of

00:36:44.400 its

00:36:44.600 members

00:36:45.120 like

00:36:45.680 Bjorn

00:36:46.000 Hockey

00:36:46.340 have

00:36:46.840 had

00:36:47.700 have been

00:36:48.720 fined

00:36:49.740 for using

00:36:50.260 slogans

00:36:50.860 that led

00:36:51.700 that make

00:36:52.600 connotations

00:36:53.300 of you know

00:36:54.540 mid-century

00:36:55.180 movement

00:36:55.720 wasn't it

00:36:56.480 like

00:36:56.840 something like

00:36:58.140 for Germany

00:36:58.800 all for

00:36:59.480 Germany

00:36:59.880 yeah

00:37:00.220 that was

00:37:01.440 mainly it

00:37:02.100 all for

00:37:02.540 Germany

00:37:02.880 and also

00:37:03.680 they say

00:37:04.140 that he

00:37:04.560 uses

00:37:05.040 hawkish

00:37:05.480 language

00:37:05.960 he's the

00:37:07.160 leader of

00:37:07.600 the AFD

00:37:07.980 in

00:37:08.220 Thuringia

00:37:08.700 and

00:37:09.160 Thuringia

00:37:09.620 is the

00:37:10.800 state

00:37:12.320 where the

00:37:12.820 AFD

00:37:13.080 came first

00:37:13.700 in the

00:37:14.160 federal

00:37:14.980 state

00:37:15.360 elections

00:37:15.840 so that's

00:37:16.620 number one

00:37:17.180 number two

00:37:18.200 is that

00:37:18.860 they say

00:37:19.740 that

00:37:19.960 there was

00:37:20.900 an event

00:37:21.920 in the

00:37:22.260 Thuringia

00:37:22.720 parliament

00:37:23.360 where in

00:37:24.360 the first

00:37:24.700 session

00:37:25.120 the leader

00:37:26.360 of the

00:37:27.100 parliament

00:37:27.680 who was

00:37:28.360 a member

00:37:28.660 of the

00:37:28.960 AFD

00:37:29.420 was accused

00:37:30.520 of not

00:37:31.100 following

00:37:31.540 the

00:37:32.580 procedure

00:37:33.180 and the

00:37:33.780 law

00:37:34.640 and everyone

00:37:35.840 made a fuss

00:37:36.560 as to how

00:37:37.080 this is

00:37:37.620 actually

00:37:38.020 unconstitutional

00:37:38.860 and also

00:37:39.860 there are

00:37:40.700 there is

00:37:41.380 a court

00:37:41.840 ruling

00:37:42.280 in

00:37:42.560 Münster

00:37:42.960 on May

00:37:44.260 13

00:37:44.740 2024

00:37:45.440 which is

00:37:46.440 a

00:37:46.920 higher

00:37:48.320 administrative

00:37:48.980 court

00:37:49.580 in Germany

00:37:50.200 that ruled

00:37:50.900 that the

00:37:51.560 AFD party

00:37:52.680 could be

00:37:53.360 classified

00:37:53.880 as a

00:37:54.480 suspected

00:37:55.120 extremist

00:37:56.460 organization

00:37:57.160 and the

00:37:57.960 court upheld

00:37:58.700 a 2022

00:37:59.600 lower court

00:38:00.580 ruling

00:38:01.000 allowing

00:38:01.340 Germany's

00:38:01.940 domestic

00:38:02.780 intelligence

00:38:03.540 agency

00:38:04.080 the

00:38:04.300 BFV

00:38:05.060 to continue

00:38:06.080 surveilling

00:38:06.680 the

00:38:06.940 AFD

00:38:07.420 the judges

00:38:07.940 found

00:38:08.300 sufficient

00:38:08.800 evidence

00:38:09.340 that the

00:38:10.080 AFD

00:38:10.520 pursues

00:38:11.000 goals

00:38:11.340 that

00:38:11.560 undermine

00:38:12.000 human

00:38:12.480 dignity

00:38:12.920 and

00:38:13.140 democracy

00:38:13.640 particularly

00:38:14.520 targeting

00:38:15.200 German

00:38:15.600 citizens

00:38:16.200 with a

00:38:16.620 migration

00:38:17.060 background

00:38:18.380 right

00:38:19.360 and they

00:38:19.860 constantly

00:38:20.520 say this

00:38:20.960 and one

00:38:21.420 of the

00:38:21.680 reasons

00:38:21.960 that they

00:38:22.320 say this

00:38:22.880 is

00:38:23.360 the

00:38:23.800 appeal

00:38:24.460 to

00:38:24.700 re-migration

00:38:25.380 in the

00:38:25.860 AFD

00:38:26.200 manifesto

00:38:27.280 because

00:38:27.700 they're

00:38:27.900 saying

00:38:28.600 that

00:38:28.980 wanting

00:38:30.000 to

00:38:31.340 re-migrate

00:38:32.200 people

00:38:32.820 especially

00:38:33.720 of a

00:38:34.100 migrant

00:38:34.420 background

00:38:35.100 is

00:38:36.080 against

00:38:36.960 their

00:38:37.140 dignity

00:38:37.560 and

00:38:37.900 against

00:38:38.300 humanity

00:38:38.820 and

00:38:39.180 it's

00:38:39.480 considered

00:38:40.340 to be

00:38:40.660 extremist

00:38:41.140 I would

00:38:41.840 turn it

00:38:42.100 the other

00:38:42.280 way around

00:38:42.720 that imposing

00:38:43.720 third world

00:38:44.880 migration

00:38:45.480 upon a

00:38:46.120 civilized

00:38:46.500 country

00:38:46.940 is one

00:38:47.760 of the

00:38:47.920 most

00:38:48.100 inhumane

00:38:48.700 things

00:38:49.040 ever to

00:38:49.460 be done

00:38:49.760 in human

00:38:50.100 history

00:38:50.500 and

00:38:51.240 that

00:38:51.580 people

00:38:52.460 basically

00:38:53.580 surveilling

00:38:54.360 and trying

00:38:54.980 to

00:38:55.460 present a

00:38:56.500 classical

00:38:56.840 liberal

00:38:57.260 party

00:38:57.740 as

00:38:58.000 extremist

00:38:58.840 are

00:38:59.780 traitors

00:39:00.980 to

00:39:01.140 their

00:39:01.300 own

00:39:01.460 country

00:39:01.860 I was

00:39:03.580 going to

00:39:03.820 say

00:39:04.060 yeah

00:39:04.320 just

00:39:04.620 all

00:39:04.880 that

00:39:05.140 it's

00:39:05.460 just

00:39:05.640 no

00:39:05.840 anyone

00:39:06.140 that

00:39:06.440 advocates

00:39:06.960 for

00:39:07.180 that

00:39:07.460 trying to

00:39:08.000 ban

00:39:08.160 the

00:39:08.280 AFD

00:39:08.620 on the

00:39:09.000 grounds

00:39:09.340 that

00:39:09.680 they're

00:39:11.180 sort of

00:39:12.220 inhuman

00:39:12.800 in some

00:39:13.300 sense

00:39:13.620 for wanting

00:39:14.100 their

00:39:14.460 own

00:39:15.240 country

00:39:15.620 for being

00:39:16.240 a

00:39:16.440 nativist

00:39:17.000 for having

00:39:17.560 nativist

00:39:18.100 sentiments

00:39:18.580 that they're

00:39:19.700 simply

00:39:20.160 fifth columnist

00:39:21.060 enemies of

00:39:22.060 the state

00:39:22.400 enemies of

00:39:22.800 the people

00:39:23.180 simple as

00:39:24.400 that

00:39:24.600 I mean

00:39:25.240 I see this

00:39:26.380 constantly

00:39:26.780 this is a

00:39:27.520 theme we see

00:39:28.320 a lot of

00:39:29.100 the people

00:39:29.660 who are

00:39:29.980 pro-globalist

00:39:30.720 they're actually

00:39:31.300 standing for

00:39:32.020 foreign

00:39:32.440 nationalisms

00:39:33.200 especially

00:39:35.040 non-european

00:39:35.840 ones

00:39:36.140 by standing

00:39:36.980 against

00:39:37.600 domestic

00:39:38.300 nationalism

00:39:39.020 you're

00:39:40.280 favouring

00:39:41.800 foreign

00:39:42.140 nationalism

00:39:42.600 aren't you

00:39:43.080 essentially

00:39:43.760 and let

00:39:45.280 us say

00:39:45.620 that by

00:39:46.160 again because

00:39:47.160 we're talking

00:39:47.620 about Germany

00:39:48.220 when we're

00:39:49.200 talking about

00:39:50.580 nationalism

00:39:51.120 we don't

00:39:51.800 mean

00:39:52.020 nationalism

00:39:52.880 of that

00:39:53.760 kind

00:39:54.140 of the

00:39:55.140 mid-century

00:39:55.760 it's basically

00:39:56.520 patriotism

00:39:57.540 wanting your

00:39:58.420 country to

00:39:58.980 have its

00:39:59.700 own distinct

00:40:00.380 national

00:40:01.220 identity

00:40:01.740 I think

00:40:02.440 that's fair

00:40:03.280 to say

00:40:03.660 wanting

00:40:04.180 your way

00:40:05.120 of life

00:40:05.640 and the

00:40:06.360 continuation

00:40:06.740 of your

00:40:07.260 people

00:40:07.600 yeah

00:40:08.060 right

00:40:08.860 so

00:40:09.320 interestingly

00:40:10.700 speaking

00:40:11.280 the people

00:40:11.940 who are

00:40:12.340 saying this

00:40:12.980 are using

00:40:14.080 the

00:40:14.780 justification

00:40:16.000 that

00:40:17.460 the AFD

00:40:18.460 constitutes a

00:40:19.400 threat to

00:40:19.960 democracy

00:40:20.500 now

00:40:21.360 let me just

00:40:22.460 say this

00:40:23.240 how many

00:40:24.640 people have

00:40:25.520 you seen

00:40:26.160 protesting

00:40:27.360 how many

00:40:28.140 globalists

00:40:29.260 or pro-EU

00:40:30.680 people

00:40:31.140 have you seen

00:40:32.080 protesting

00:40:32.620 against Thierry

00:40:33.480 Breton

00:40:33.880 who is the

00:40:34.600 former European

00:40:35.520 commissioner

00:40:36.060 who said

00:40:36.600 that the EU

00:40:37.260 has mechanisms

00:40:38.540 to nullify

00:40:39.800 potential election

00:40:41.180 victory of the

00:40:41.960 AFD

00:40:42.320 he said

00:40:43.000 we did it in

00:40:43.760 Romania

00:40:44.100 and we will

00:40:44.800 obviously do it

00:40:45.560 in Germany

00:40:45.940 if necessary

00:40:46.620 those are the

00:40:47.600 words of a

00:40:47.960 tyrant

00:40:48.320 if you

00:40:49.900 if you

00:40:50.660 willingly

00:40:51.060 overthrow

00:40:51.740 election

00:40:52.160 results

00:40:52.480 you don't

00:40:52.880 like

00:40:53.220 then

00:40:53.800 you can't

00:40:54.660 be claiming

00:40:55.220 that you're

00:40:55.940 doing it

00:40:56.220 to protect

00:40:56.640 democracy

00:40:57.160 can you

00:40:57.660 yes

00:40:57.920 and from

00:40:58.600 an outsider's

00:40:59.340 perspective

00:40:59.740 because I'm

00:41:00.300 not German

00:41:00.680 and I don't

00:41:01.180 live in

00:41:01.480 Germany

00:41:01.820 when I see

00:41:02.760 two people

00:41:03.520 and I see

00:41:04.100 one person

00:41:04.920 gloating

00:41:06.020 and being

00:41:06.500 very happy

00:41:07.360 about how

00:41:07.900 undemocratic

00:41:08.620 he is

00:41:09.420 and how

00:41:09.720 tyrannical

00:41:10.240 he is

00:41:10.760 and

00:41:11.540 people who

00:41:12.820 are actually

00:41:13.600 his friends

00:41:14.840 are saying

00:41:15.960 that they want

00:41:16.460 to ban

00:41:16.920 another party

00:41:17.880 that expresses

00:41:18.780 more than

00:41:19.600 one out of

00:41:20.060 five Germans

00:41:20.700 for the sake

00:41:21.500 of protecting

00:41:22.080 democracy

00:41:22.740 yeah my red

00:41:23.900 alert goes off

00:41:24.700 yeah it's sort

00:41:25.540 of like

00:41:26.080 you know

00:41:27.720 Chancellor Palpatine

00:41:29.600 before he became

00:41:30.240 the emperor

00:41:30.680 saying that

00:41:31.580 the attack on my

00:41:32.440 life has left

00:41:33.320 me scarred

00:41:33.920 we need emergency

00:41:34.700 powers to crush

00:41:35.760 our enemies

00:41:36.580 sorry to lower

00:41:37.760 the tone

00:41:38.180 but still

00:41:39.120 it's that level

00:41:40.580 of evil

00:41:41.420 it's like

00:41:42.120 I have institutional

00:41:43.320 backing and power

00:41:44.300 and I'm going to

00:41:45.180 use it to crush

00:41:45.780 my enemies

00:41:46.300 under the auspices

00:41:47.160 of protecting

00:41:47.980 the citizenry

00:41:49.560 and this actually

00:41:51.240 shows that

00:41:51.920 there is an actual

00:41:53.200 deficit of democracy

00:41:55.680 in the EU

00:41:56.280 and a lot of the

00:41:57.240 parties that are

00:41:58.160 essentially following

00:41:59.560 the EU line

00:42:00.680 it's not a democracy

00:42:02.540 it's a managed

00:42:03.340 oligarchy

00:42:04.000 that tries to

00:42:05.680 silence

00:42:06.120 the opposition

00:42:07.280 opposition

00:42:08.740 to its main

00:42:09.740 agenda

00:42:10.080 the agenda

00:42:10.860 is multiculturalism

00:42:12.560 that this

00:42:13.100 disintegrates

00:42:14.300 social cohesion

00:42:15.080 and there is

00:42:16.180 just a kind

00:42:17.580 of oscillation

00:42:18.440 between you

00:42:18.920 whether you

00:42:19.540 want it faster

00:42:20.200 or not

00:42:20.640 but that's

00:42:21.400 the main

00:42:21.760 agenda

00:42:22.120 and in a

00:42:23.580 the supposed

00:42:25.020 merit of democracy

00:42:26.960 is that you can

00:42:27.640 actually get a lot

00:42:28.700 of people

00:42:29.160 to change course

00:42:30.400 not just

00:42:31.120 people to

00:42:31.920 debate whether

00:42:32.620 they want to

00:42:33.580 move fast

00:42:34.640 or slowly

00:42:35.300 towards destruction

00:42:36.160 I think it all

00:42:37.420 comes back to

00:42:38.520 what Aristotle

00:42:39.860 said about

00:42:40.500 tyrants

00:42:41.000 preferring

00:42:41.660 foreign people

00:42:42.560 as subjects

00:42:44.040 because it

00:42:44.560 allows them

00:42:45.240 greater freedom

00:42:46.100 to be tyrants

00:42:47.500 and I think

00:42:48.120 that the same

00:42:49.100 thing is going

00:42:49.660 on here

00:42:50.180 with the AFD

00:42:51.140 and within

00:42:51.900 the EU

00:42:52.520 that it's

00:42:53.960 in the self

00:42:54.820 interest of

00:42:55.780 people within

00:42:56.420 these organisations

00:42:57.300 by the sort

00:42:58.300 of perverse

00:42:58.760 way in which

00:42:59.240 they've been

00:42:59.580 set up

00:43:00.060 it incentivises

00:43:01.180 them flooding

00:43:02.420 these countries

00:43:03.020 with migrants

00:43:03.760 because it

00:43:04.580 then enables

00:43:05.720 greater power

00:43:06.540 and influence

00:43:07.140 to the

00:43:07.740 bureaucrats

00:43:08.380 who are

00:43:08.700 running things

00:43:09.360 right so

00:43:11.520 not everyone

00:43:12.040 agrees some

00:43:12.780 politicians say

00:43:13.600 that it

00:43:13.940 shouldn't be

00:43:14.380 banned

00:43:14.700 and they

00:43:16.240 don't necessarily

00:43:17.020 agree with

00:43:17.920 the AFD

00:43:18.300 but they

00:43:18.720 think that

00:43:19.200 it shouldn't

00:43:19.540 be banned

00:43:19.880 that the

00:43:20.180 move has

00:43:21.200 more risks

00:43:22.520 and costs

00:43:23.720 than benefits

00:43:24.620 and here we

00:43:25.540 have Chancellor

00:43:26.140 Olaf Scholz

00:43:27.060 by the SPD

00:43:28.000 who is now

00:43:29.000 the Chancellor

00:43:29.480 of Germany

00:43:30.080 saying that

00:43:31.180 basically that

00:43:32.020 there is

00:43:32.960 no sufficient

00:43:33.880 evidence

00:43:34.500 for the

00:43:35.580 the AFD

00:43:36.440 to be banned

00:43:36.960 well

00:43:39.040 credit to

00:43:40.040 them

00:43:40.260 yes

00:43:40.920 there is

00:43:41.600 no sufficient

00:43:42.240 evidence

00:43:42.600 so

00:43:43.020 you would

00:43:45.140 expect

00:43:45.620 that if

00:43:46.700 there was

00:43:47.260 sufficient

00:43:47.720 evidence

00:43:48.340 that they

00:43:49.380 would have

00:43:49.700 already banned

00:43:50.360 it

00:43:50.580 I mean

00:43:51.340 if they dug

00:43:52.000 around

00:43:52.560 you know

00:43:54.380 in one of

00:43:54.900 the senior

00:43:55.280 AFD

00:43:55.920 leaders files

00:43:58.140 and they

00:43:58.500 find plans

00:43:59.440 to carry out

00:43:59.920 a Reichstag

00:44:00.480 fire

00:44:00.880 then maybe

00:44:01.920 they would

00:44:02.460 have a bit

00:44:02.780 of a cause

00:44:03.580 for concern

00:44:04.160 but I don't

00:44:04.860 think they're

00:44:05.180 going to

00:44:05.340 find any

00:44:05.740 of that

00:44:05.980 because

00:44:06.340 as far

00:44:07.060 as I'm

00:44:07.280 aware

00:44:07.480 the AFD

00:44:08.120 have been

00:44:08.380 operating

00:44:08.860 in the

00:44:09.440 confines

00:44:09.880 of German

00:44:10.280 democracy

00:44:10.800 in much

00:44:12.040 the same

00:44:12.420 way as

00:44:13.060 any other

00:44:13.420 party

00:44:13.860 they've not

00:44:14.420 been breaking

00:44:14.980 those rules

00:44:15.540 so there's

00:44:15.920 no reason

00:44:16.460 to presume

00:44:17.120 that they're

00:44:17.580 undemocratic

00:44:18.220 at all

00:44:18.780 well I spoke

00:44:19.900 I did an

00:44:20.520 interview

00:44:20.860 on Lotus

00:44:21.740 Seaters

00:44:22.040 with Peter

00:44:23.340 Boehringer

00:44:23.840 when was it

00:44:24.920 like a year

00:44:25.360 ago or

00:44:25.700 something

00:44:25.920 in that

00:44:26.360 ballpark

00:44:26.740 I think he's

00:44:28.240 one of many

00:44:28.920 vice chairmen

00:44:30.280 I think that

00:44:30.680 was his

00:44:31.040 anyway

00:44:31.440 relatively

00:44:32.000 senior

00:44:32.460 I think

00:44:32.800 reasonably

00:44:33.260 senior

00:44:33.600 person

00:44:34.020 in

00:44:34.200 AFD

00:44:34.540 and he

00:44:36.060 was

00:44:36.360 very

00:44:37.560 very

00:44:37.980 very

00:44:38.400 reasonable

00:44:39.000 and I

00:44:39.540 don't mean

00:44:39.840 this as a

00:44:40.220 criticism

00:44:40.540 but it

00:44:40.740 was kind

00:44:41.000 of

00:44:41.080 milk

00:44:41.280 toast

00:44:41.640 like I

00:44:42.420 was too

00:44:42.780 based

00:44:43.040 for him

00:44:43.300 I was

00:44:43.580 saying

00:44:43.740 stuff

00:44:44.000 where

00:44:44.120 he

00:44:44.220 was

00:44:44.340 like

00:44:44.580 a bit

00:44:45.560 wide

00:44:45.840 eyed

00:44:46.200 like

00:44:47.580 you know

00:44:47.980 I was

00:44:48.680 asking him

00:44:49.080 things about

00:44:49.480 the nature

00:44:49.840 of US

00:44:50.220 NATO bases

00:44:51.160 in Germany

00:44:51.620 the nature

00:44:52.040 of the

00:44:52.440 well there

00:44:53.220 was one

00:44:53.460 question I

00:44:53.860 asked him

00:44:54.080 about the

00:44:54.680 pipeline

00:44:56.060 the Nord Stream

00:44:56.720 pipeline

00:44:57.160 and he

00:44:58.380 just

00:44:58.780 ummed and

00:44:59.380 ahed and

00:44:59.760 didn't really

00:45:00.140 answer

00:45:00.600 and I

00:45:01.400 don't mean

00:45:01.660 to throw

00:45:01.880 him under

00:45:02.120 the bus

00:45:02.460 here

00:45:02.760 but then

00:45:03.560 afterwards

00:45:03.860 said

00:45:04.020 can you

00:45:04.340 not put

00:45:04.680 that out

00:45:05.020 we just

00:45:05.540 as AFD

00:45:06.380 people

00:45:06.620 we have

00:45:07.080 to be

00:45:07.380 whiter

00:45:07.680 than white

00:45:08.140 we can't

00:45:09.120 have

00:45:09.460 anything

00:45:10.240 to do

00:45:10.820 with

00:45:11.220 people

00:45:11.820 accusing us

00:45:12.440 of being

00:45:12.760 conspiracy

00:45:13.260 theorists

00:45:13.740 we can't

00:45:14.300 have

00:45:14.440 anything

00:45:14.700 even the

00:45:15.180 hint

00:45:15.560 that we're

00:45:16.320 being

00:45:16.740 too

00:45:17.420 right

00:45:17.760 wing

00:45:18.060 everything

00:45:19.080 has to

00:45:19.520 be

00:45:19.920 super

00:45:20.620 super

00:45:20.860 constitutional

00:45:21.500 super

00:45:21.980 super

00:45:22.220 within

00:45:22.480 the

00:45:22.720 lines

00:45:23.260 they're

00:45:24.440 whiter

00:45:25.860 than white

00:45:26.440 they have

00:45:27.420 to be

00:45:27.820 they absolutely

00:45:28.520 have to be

00:45:28.920 because if

00:45:29.560 they cross

00:45:29.980 the line

00:45:30.320 anywhere in

00:45:31.820 a tiny

00:45:32.320 tiny amount

00:45:33.000 they'll get

00:45:33.660 jumped on

00:45:34.160 and they'll

00:45:34.420 be called

00:45:34.740 unconstitutional

00:45:35.440 and they'll

00:45:35.720 get banned

00:45:36.080 so it's

00:45:37.140 their business

00:45:38.000 they're in

00:45:39.120 the business

00:45:39.780 of staying

00:45:40.940 within

00:45:41.860 playing the

00:45:43.080 long game

00:45:43.500 yeah

00:45:43.960 yes

00:45:44.600 and so

00:45:45.780 it's mad

00:45:49.120 because this

00:45:49.680 if they do

00:45:50.180 ban them

00:45:50.760 it will only

00:45:51.780 be a

00:45:52.240 stay of

00:45:52.820 execution

00:45:53.400 so to

00:45:54.280 speak

00:45:54.560 metaphorically

00:45:55.180 speaking

00:45:55.480 for the

00:45:57.160 right wing

00:45:57.940 or right

00:45:58.380 leaning

00:45:59.160 movement

00:45:59.640 in Germany

00:46:00.240 Germany

00:46:01.240 like most

00:46:01.840 countries

00:46:02.160 in Europe

00:46:02.460 now

00:46:02.680 most of

00:46:03.040 the western

00:46:03.460 countries

00:46:03.980 are a

00:46:04.700 pressure cooker

00:46:05.320 in Britain

00:46:06.700 we saw it

00:46:07.320 with the

00:46:07.680 Southport

00:46:08.140 riots

00:46:08.580 for example

00:46:09.220 in Sweden

00:46:11.180 what's going

00:46:11.680 on in France

00:46:12.280 all over the

00:46:12.740 place

00:46:12.940 Germany is

00:46:13.940 of course

00:46:14.260 one of

00:46:14.540 those

00:46:14.680 it's a

00:46:14.980 pressure

00:46:15.300 cooker

00:46:15.640 and if

00:46:16.780 they don't

00:46:17.240 the establishment

00:46:17.900 the lefties

00:46:18.660 whatever it

00:46:19.140 is

00:46:19.420 the fifth

00:46:19.860 columnists

00:46:20.500 don't allow

00:46:22.600 some of that

00:46:23.900 pressure out

00:46:24.500 by allowing

00:46:25.160 AFD to

00:46:25.800 exist

00:46:26.260 then that

00:46:27.420 pressure

00:46:27.700 cooker is

00:46:28.140 going to

00:46:28.480 keep rumbling

00:46:29.060 away

00:46:29.540 it's going to

00:46:31.140 keep rumbling

00:46:31.720 away

00:46:32.040 it's really

00:46:32.700 really short

00:46:33.220 sighted

00:46:33.780 of the

00:46:34.200 lefties

00:46:34.700 in Germany

00:46:36.200 to try and

00:46:37.380 outright prescribe

00:46:38.540 AFD

00:46:39.020 it's crazy

00:46:39.940 because the

00:46:41.020 people that

00:46:41.520 support them

00:46:42.040 are not

00:46:42.280 going anywhere

00:46:42.880 if you ban

00:46:43.400 AFD

00:46:43.720 they're not

00:46:43.960 going to

00:46:44.140 disappear

00:46:44.500 they'll become

00:46:45.680 more bitter

00:46:47.120 if anything

00:46:47.680 well this is

00:46:48.740 the thing

00:46:49.300 isn't it

00:46:49.640 that if you

00:46:50.100 push people

00:46:50.680 underground

00:46:51.200 you only make

00:46:52.260 them more

00:46:52.600 embittered

00:46:53.180 towards you

00:46:53.760 and you

00:46:54.100 prove their

00:46:54.540 point

00:46:54.840 yeah

00:46:55.580 and actually

00:46:56.260 it proves

00:46:57.000 also our

00:46:57.800 point that

00:46:58.640 politics

00:46:59.420 in Europe

00:47:00.580 right now

00:47:01.200 is mostly

00:47:01.760 the micromanaging

00:47:02.700 of decline

00:47:03.380 because even

00:47:04.280 that if

00:47:04.880 they try to

00:47:06.180 ban the

00:47:06.940 AFD

00:47:07.480 without trying

00:47:08.560 to understand

00:47:09.240 the reasons

00:47:10.260 that people

00:47:11.600 support it

00:47:12.400 and try to

00:47:13.020 address their

00:47:13.640 concerns

00:47:14.160 they're actually

00:47:15.080 dealing with

00:47:15.980 a symptom

00:47:17.120 and not its

00:47:18.040 cause

00:47:18.300 and right

00:47:19.740 now

00:47:20.060 I don't see

00:47:21.320 how you can

00:47:21.760 just ban

00:47:22.340 a party

00:47:23.280 that expresses

00:47:24.160 more than

00:47:24.720 one out of

00:47:25.240 five people

00:47:26.140 and this is

00:47:26.860 a conservative

00:47:27.540 estimation

00:47:28.620 by the

00:47:29.220 Politpro

00:47:29.960 that shows

00:47:31.140 that the

00:47:31.600 AFD

00:47:32.040 right now

00:47:32.520 gets

00:47:33.240 20.8%

00:47:35.420 of

00:47:36.100 the votes

00:47:37.600 I've seen

00:47:38.480 some others

00:47:38.980 that say

00:47:39.480 23

00:47:40.000 so one in

00:47:41.540 five

00:47:41.840 one in

00:47:42.200 four

00:47:42.400 more than

00:47:42.900 one in

00:47:43.280 their whole

00:47:45.000 political

00:47:45.480 voice is

00:47:46.860 just shut

00:47:47.460 down

00:47:47.680 it's the

00:47:48.040 second largest

00:47:48.780 party

00:47:49.040 that would

00:47:49.200 be crazy

00:47:49.760 look at

00:47:50.200 the US

00:47:50.700 and what

00:47:51.000 they tried

00:47:51.320 to do

00:47:51.580 to get

00:47:51.880 Trump

00:47:52.200 off of

00:47:52.540 the ballot

00:47:52.900 and try

00:47:53.340 and imprison

00:47:53.780 him

00:47:54.080 and interfere

00:47:54.800 with his

00:47:55.420 presidential

00:47:55.880 campaign

00:47:56.520 blow his

00:47:56.960 head off

00:47:57.360 on camera

00:47:57.860 yeah

00:47:58.100 exactly

00:47:58.520 and he

00:47:59.700 represented

00:48:00.220 what 50%

00:48:01.180 you know

00:48:02.280 those who

00:48:04.300 voted

00:48:04.660 the majority

00:48:05.820 yeah

00:48:06.420 right

00:48:06.860 and so

00:48:07.540 it seems

00:48:09.440 like the

00:48:09.920 globalist

00:48:10.380 faction

00:48:10.720 is willing

00:48:11.220 to go

00:48:11.700 a lot

00:48:12.300 further

00:48:12.760 even if

00:48:13.340 you know

00:48:13.660 the AFD

00:48:14.340 held a

00:48:15.140 majority

00:48:15.620 in the

00:48:17.020 unlikely event

00:48:17.960 that happens

00:48:18.500 they're still

00:48:19.720 going to go

00:48:20.240 after them

00:48:20.800 but also

00:48:21.380 this raises

00:48:22.080 the question

00:48:22.520 of whether

00:48:22.960 it is

00:48:23.640 actually

00:48:24.020 the opposite

00:48:24.640 and it's

00:48:25.540 the people

00:48:26.580 who call

00:48:27.040 for the

00:48:27.800 AFD

00:48:28.260 to be banned

00:48:28.820 who are

00:48:29.100 the constitutional

00:48:29.980 risk here

00:48:31.060 the risk

00:48:32.000 to democracy

00:48:32.680 because

00:48:33.140 exact

00:48:33.560 opposite

00:48:34.000 yeah

00:48:34.280 because

00:48:34.660 by

00:48:35.280 literally

00:48:36.420 pushing

00:48:37.220 forward

00:48:37.620 their

00:48:38.000 policies

00:48:38.520 and these

00:48:39.000 policies

00:48:39.400 have actually

00:48:40.120 made

00:48:40.480 Germany

00:48:41.100 a lot

00:48:41.520 worse

00:48:41.920 poorer

00:48:42.840 it had

00:48:43.700 they have

00:48:44.840 contributed

00:48:45.340 to diminished

00:48:46.120 economic

00:48:46.600 prospects

00:48:47.160 to a

00:48:48.460 surge

00:48:48.760 in crime

00:48:49.260 if

00:48:49.960 they

00:48:51.160 ban the

00:48:52.500 party that

00:48:53.020 speaks about

00:48:53.700 them

00:48:53.980 and actually

00:48:55.260 tries to

00:48:56.140 say

00:48:56.540 we live

00:48:57.820 in 2025

00:48:58.600 we need

00:48:59.720 to take

00:49:00.020 the world

00:49:00.360 at face

00:49:01.060 value

00:49:01.420 and move

00:49:02.360 within the

00:49:03.100 world

00:49:03.340 as we

00:49:03.840 find it

00:49:04.500 not as

00:49:05.120 we would

00:49:05.460 like to

00:49:06.560 think

00:49:06.780 that it

00:49:07.080 is

00:49:07.340 with my

00:49:08.520 analogy

00:49:08.820 of a

00:49:09.060 pressure

00:49:09.280 cooker

00:49:09.640 there is

00:49:10.260 a little

00:49:10.720 bit of

00:49:11.300 pressure

00:49:12.580 being

00:49:12.900 released

00:49:13.340 and they

00:49:14.600 would just

00:49:14.960 turn even

00:49:15.560 that off

00:49:16.160 even that

00:49:16.840 off

00:49:17.040 because

00:49:17.440 they would

00:49:17.980 communicate

00:49:18.720 they would

00:49:19.180 signal

00:49:19.680 that they

00:49:20.580 don't want

00:49:21.380 to address

00:49:22.000 the concerns

00:49:22.640 of the people

00:49:23.240 who go to

00:49:24.260 vote for

00:49:24.660 the AFD

00:49:25.100 and they're

00:49:25.780 more than

00:49:26.280 one out of

00:49:26.740 five

00:49:27.020 so it's

00:49:27.520 like taking

00:49:28.200 one out

00:49:28.600 of five

00:49:28.980 people

00:49:29.360 and saying

00:49:30.760 well I'm

00:49:31.140 not going

00:49:31.420 to listen

00:49:31.760 to you

00:49:32.200 and I

00:49:32.820 don't care

00:49:33.240 about you

00:49:33.620 you don't

00:49:34.060 have a

00:49:34.360 voice

00:49:34.660 you mentioned

00:49:35.640 managed

00:49:36.020 decline

00:49:36.360 earlier

00:49:36.680 you're lucky

00:49:38.660 if you're

00:49:39.020 getting managed

00:49:39.480 decline

00:49:39.860 it's more

00:49:41.160 like just

00:49:41.720 allowing

00:49:42.340 a narco

00:49:44.140 tyranny

00:49:44.520 or something

00:49:45.080 you're lucky

00:49:48.020 if you get

00:49:48.440 managed

00:49:48.760 decline

00:49:49.140 right

00:49:52.540 so

00:49:53.100 we see

00:49:54.320 here

00:49:54.640 that

00:49:55.100 Alice

00:49:55.980 vital

00:49:56.340 is

00:49:57.380 the

00:49:57.820 most

00:49:58.120 popular

00:49:58.500 candidate

00:49:58.920 for

00:49:59.300 chancellor

00:49:59.800 according

00:50:00.500 to

00:50:00.740 some

00:50:00.960 polls

00:50:01.280 they

00:50:02.080 have

00:50:02.340 been

00:50:02.560 first

00:50:02.920 in the

00:50:03.300 state

00:50:03.540 elections

00:50:04.020 of

00:50:04.320 Thuringia

00:50:05.040 second

00:50:05.780 in

00:50:06.120 Saxony

00:50:06.600 and

00:50:07.020 also

00:50:07.640 in

00:50:07.940 Brandenburg

00:50:08.600 and they

00:50:09.400 seem to be

00:50:09.900 the second

00:50:10.280 largest

00:50:10.600 party

00:50:10.940 yeah

00:50:11.680 they've been

00:50:12.240 doing very

00:50:12.660 well

00:50:12.960 haven't

00:50:13.220 they

00:50:13.460 electorally

00:50:14.500 and of

00:50:15.300 course

00:50:15.460 Brandenburg

00:50:15.960 is quite

00:50:16.260 significant

00:50:16.720 as well

00:50:17.200 considering

00:50:18.100 where it

00:50:18.520 is

00:50:18.680 and its

00:50:18.940 significance

00:50:19.400 in the

00:50:20.860 country

00:50:21.240 exactly

00:50:21.800 so I'll

00:50:22.240 show you

00:50:22.620 article

00:50:22.940 21

00:50:23.620 it says

00:50:24.740 here about

00:50:25.360 political

00:50:25.720 parties

00:50:26.320 close to

00:50:27.080 parties

00:50:27.500 that by

00:50:28.000 reason of

00:50:28.560 their aims

00:50:29.100 or the

00:50:29.460 behavior

00:50:29.860 of their

00:50:30.640 adherents

00:50:31.200 seek to

00:50:31.700 undermine

00:50:32.040 or abolish

00:50:32.820 the free

00:50:33.560 democratic

00:50:34.060 basic

00:50:34.480 order

00:50:34.840 or to

00:50:35.340 endanger

00:50:35.860 the

00:50:36.540 existence

00:50:36.920 of the

00:50:37.340 federal

00:50:37.640 republic

00:50:38.160 of

00:50:38.460 Germany

00:50:38.760 shall

00:50:39.080 be

00:50:39.240 unconstitutional

00:50:39.980 right

00:50:41.000 so

00:50:41.300 I'm not

00:50:42.780 gonna lie

00:50:43.140 I don't

00:50:43.620 like the

00:50:44.120 I don't

00:50:44.820 like some

00:50:45.380 of the

00:50:46.080 things that

00:50:47.040 have been

00:50:48.660 said

00:50:49.340 and some

00:50:49.740 of the

00:50:50.000 slogans

00:50:50.420 I find

00:50:50.720 them

00:50:50.900 ridiculous

00:50:51.680 I'll be

00:50:52.860 very frank

00:50:53.420 you don't

00:50:54.540 need to

00:50:54.800 do this

00:50:55.760 and especially

00:50:56.280 if you

00:50:57.200 are in

00:50:57.760 a group

00:50:58.160 you don't

00:50:59.540 need to

00:50:59.880 make it

00:51:00.840 more difficult

00:51:01.740 for the

00:51:03.480 members of

00:51:04.400 your group

00:51:04.780 but what

00:51:05.560 I see

00:51:05.980 here is

00:51:06.420 that I

00:51:07.180 see a

00:51:07.520 whole

00:51:07.800 establishment

00:51:08.460 that signals

00:51:09.840 I don't

00:51:10.860 care about

00:51:11.320 the will

00:51:11.660 of the

00:51:11.900 people

00:51:12.160 I don't

00:51:12.960 care about

00:51:13.400 democracy

00:51:13.940 I don't

00:51:15.080 recognize

00:51:15.780 your right

00:51:16.300 to have

00:51:16.620 a voice

00:51:17.100 if your

00:51:17.700 voice

00:51:18.120 is

00:51:18.860 contrary

00:51:19.720 to the

00:51:20.920 small

00:51:21.200 choice

00:51:21.520 I'm giving

00:51:21.960 you

00:51:22.260 which is

00:51:22.740 managed

00:51:23.440 decline

00:51:23.960 or

00:51:24.380 really

00:51:24.820 fast

00:51:25.140 managed

00:51:25.460 decline

00:51:25.840 I think

00:51:27.480 what we're

00:51:27.860 seeing

00:51:28.260 quite

00:51:29.380 nakedly

00:51:30.100 is

00:51:30.740 how a

00:51:31.580 lot of

00:51:31.920 politics

00:51:32.320 functions

00:51:32.780 in the

00:51:33.040 modern

00:51:33.220 day

00:51:33.540 that

00:51:34.120 it's

00:51:34.520 party

00:51:35.000 politics

00:51:35.580 above

00:51:35.900 all

00:51:36.200 it's

00:51:36.480 my

00:51:36.880 you know

00:51:37.820 my

00:51:38.300 group

00:51:38.560 against

00:51:38.900 yours

00:51:39.340 whatever

00:51:39.740 the

00:51:40.000 cost

00:51:40.400 this

00:51:41.300 will

00:51:41.560 lead

00:51:41.900 to

00:51:42.040 if

00:51:42.320 they

00:51:42.500 ban

00:51:42.760 it

00:51:42.940 it

00:51:43.140 will

00:51:43.320 lead

00:51:43.560 to

00:51:43.740 widespread

00:51:44.280 delegitimization

00:51:45.400 of

00:51:45.900 institutions

00:51:46.700 it

00:51:47.000 would

00:51:47.140 lead

00:51:47.400 to

00:51:47.560 widespread

00:51:47.880 delegitimization

00:51:48.840 of

00:51:49.120 democracy

00:51:49.600 and also

00:51:50.640 of the

00:51:51.580 federal

00:51:51.860 court

00:51:52.280 I would

00:51:52.860 put

00:51:53.060 sanctions

00:51:53.500 on

00:51:53.780 Germany

00:51:54.080 if I

00:51:54.480 were

00:51:54.660 you know

00:51:55.040 if I

00:51:55.760 were the

00:51:56.000 prime minister

00:51:56.460 of Britain

00:51:56.980 I think

00:51:58.020 it would be

00:51:58.460 legitimate

00:51:58.880 to say

00:51:59.360 hang on a minute

00:51:59.880 you've just

00:52:00.440 got rid of

00:52:01.480 the second

00:52:01.860 most popular

00:52:02.360 party in

00:52:02.900 your country

00:52:03.440 how can you

00:52:04.760 be a

00:52:05.220 democratic

00:52:05.600 country

00:52:06.020 anymore

00:52:06.340 you can't

00:52:07.080 it's

00:52:09.180 it's just

00:52:09.440 incredibly

00:52:09.900 authoritarian

00:52:10.380 it

00:52:11.440 shows

00:52:11.780 that

00:52:11.940 they

00:52:12.080 have

00:52:12.260 zero

00:52:12.500 arguments

00:52:12.940 left

00:52:13.340 and

00:52:13.800 what

00:52:14.240 they

00:52:14.440 want

00:52:14.720 to

00:52:14.920 do

00:52:15.640 is

00:52:15.880 to

00:52:16.120 basically

00:52:17.020 talk

00:52:18.460 about

00:52:19.480 they

00:52:20.600 want

00:52:20.900 to

00:52:21.040 prevent

00:52:21.320 people

00:52:21.660 from

00:52:21.920 talking

00:52:22.280 about

00:52:22.620 the

00:52:22.860 consequences

00:52:23.440 of

00:52:24.080 the

00:52:24.260 policies

00:52:24.700 of

00:52:25.180 the

00:52:25.780 globalist

00:52:26.260 parties

00:52:26.600 it's

00:52:29.040 not

00:52:29.160 going to

00:52:29.660 work

00:52:29.920 cheery

00:52:34.240 you've got

00:52:35.640 a bunch

00:52:35.900 of

00:52:36.020 chats

00:52:36.260 here

00:52:36.540 would you

00:52:38.680 like to

00:52:38.960 read them

00:52:39.220 or shall

00:52:39.500 I

00:52:39.740 yeah

00:52:40.880 okay

00:52:41.160 so

00:52:41.460 the

00:52:41.640 engaged

00:52:42.020 few

00:52:42.360 German

00:52:43.200 commies

00:52:43.660 are trying

00:52:44.120 to

00:52:44.340 outlaw

00:52:44.820 AFD

00:52:45.440 and the

00:52:45.740 CDU

00:52:46.120 disenfranchising

00:52:47.180 around 50%

00:52:48.100 of Germans

00:52:48.720 they're getting

00:52:49.840 so desperate

00:52:50.460 that they

00:52:50.840 keep

00:52:51.160 letting

00:52:51.860 the

00:52:52.140 mosques

00:52:52.540 slip

00:52:53.340 yep

00:52:54.140 the

00:52:55.440 binary

00:52:55.740 surfer

00:52:56.200 the

00:52:56.420 AFD

00:52:56.780 being

00:52:57.020 banned

00:52:57.360 it's

00:52:57.620 a good

00:52:57.880 job

00:52:58.180 that

00:52:58.360 nothing

00:52:58.620 really

00:52:58.980 bad

00:52:59.280 ever

00:52:59.540 happened

00:52:59.940 by

00:53:00.260 peeing

00:53:02.960 too many

00:53:03.320 ordinary

00:53:03.640 Germans

00:53:04.020 off

00:53:04.280 right

00:53:04.540 yep

00:53:05.060 right

00:53:06.840 I see

00:53:07.340 what you're

00:53:07.680 referencing

00:53:08.120 do you

00:53:09.840 think

00:53:10.040 this is

00:53:10.420 comparable

00:53:10.860 to the

00:53:11.360 banning

00:53:11.680 of

00:53:11.860 golden

00:53:12.240 dawn

00:53:12.540 in

00:53:12.740 Greece

00:53:12.940 I

00:53:14.000 don't

00:53:14.440 think

00:53:14.680 it

00:53:14.800 is

00:53:14.980 because

00:53:15.220 I

00:53:15.520 think

00:53:15.740 that

00:53:15.960 the

00:53:16.140 golden

00:53:16.460 dawn

00:53:17.060 was

00:53:17.460 banned

00:53:18.100 as a

00:53:18.900 criminal

00:53:19.200 organisation

00:53:20.060 well

00:53:21.440 I know

00:53:22.220 that when

00:53:22.560 I went

00:53:22.820 to

00:53:23.020 Athens

00:53:23.360 sorry to

00:53:23.760 speak

00:53:24.020 for you

00:53:24.760 as a

00:53:25.320 Greek

00:53:25.560 but

00:53:25.780 when I

00:53:26.240 went

00:53:26.360 to

00:53:26.480 Athens

00:53:26.800 I

00:53:27.080 saw

00:53:27.300 loads

00:53:27.600 of

00:53:27.820 golden

00:53:28.160 dawn

00:53:28.460 graffiti

00:53:29.020 on the

00:53:29.400 streets

00:53:29.620 it

00:53:29.780 doesn't

00:53:30.000 feel

00:53:30.200 like

00:53:30.360 a

00:53:30.460 political

00:53:33.320 lots

00:53:33.600 of

00:53:33.760 the

00:53:33.960 conflicts

00:53:34.560 in the

00:53:34.960 street

00:53:35.280 weren't

00:53:35.600 they

00:53:35.840 with

00:53:36.320 the

00:53:36.680 anarchist

00:53:37.320 groups

00:53:37.760 and

00:53:37.840 communists

00:53:38.380 and so

00:53:39.380 it was

00:53:39.660 more of a

00:53:40.120 point of

00:53:40.480 public

00:53:40.760 order

00:53:41.080 as I

00:53:41.340 understand

00:53:41.600 it

00:53:41.920 this is

00:53:42.580 unfortunately

00:53:43.160 really

00:53:43.840 widespread

00:53:44.980 in

00:53:45.360 Greece

00:53:45.620 especially

00:53:46.820 you have

00:53:47.420 anyway

00:53:47.780 just

00:53:48.140 and also

00:53:48.880 that

00:53:49.200 they

00:53:49.540 I would

00:53:49.960 say

00:53:50.160 that

00:53:50.320 they

00:53:50.460 had

00:53:50.660 a

00:53:50.920 very

00:53:51.280 different

00:53:51.920 manifesto

00:53:52.840 that's

00:53:54.760 safe

00:53:54.980 to say

00:53:55.340 yeah

00:53:55.580 right

00:53:56.800 and

00:53:57.220 engaged

00:53:57.840 few

00:53:58.140 the

00:53:58.320 German

00:53:58.600 leftists

00:53:59.300 try to

00:54:00.020 silence

00:54:00.500 AFD

00:54:01.040 need to

00:54:01.600 remember

00:54:01.960 something

00:54:02.380 important

00:54:02.840 when men

00:54:03.760 ran out

00:54:04.300 of words

00:54:04.740 they

00:54:04.960 reach

00:54:05.280 for

00:54:05.480 swords

00:54:05.880 that's

00:54:06.760 true

00:54:07.040 we have

00:54:08.660 a good

00:54:09.100 Greek

00:54:09.560 saying

00:54:09.900 that

00:54:10.180 what

00:54:10.460 lies

00:54:10.860 outside

00:54:12.100 the

00:54:12.360 domain

00:54:12.680 of

00:54:12.880 reason

00:54:13.240 is

00:54:14.160 under

00:54:14.360 the

00:54:14.560 domain

00:54:14.860 of

00:54:15.040 the

00:54:15.220 stick

00:54:15.560 that

00:54:19.340 if you

00:54:20.360 didn't tell me

00:54:20.860 that was

00:54:21.140 Greek

00:54:21.460 that would

00:54:21.840 be my

00:54:22.140 first guess

00:54:22.840 of where

00:54:23.340 it came

00:54:23.700 from

00:54:23.960 I don't

00:54:24.520 know

00:54:24.680 what

00:54:24.900 I think

00:54:25.420 it's

00:54:25.560 the

00:54:25.620 emphasis

00:54:25.840 on

00:54:26.080 reason

00:54:26.380 with

00:54:26.660 some

00:54:26.880 people

00:54:27.240 but

00:54:27.880 with

00:54:28.080 some

00:54:28.300 others

00:54:28.620 you

00:54:28.980 just

00:54:29.300 can't

00:54:30.060 I'm

00:54:31.700 sure

00:54:31.900 that's

00:54:32.180 exactly

00:54:32.680 how

00:54:32.960 they

00:54:33.120 said

00:54:33.300 it

00:54:33.400 originally

00:54:33.780 can

00:54:36.020 someone

00:54:36.260 with a

00:54:36.560 mouse

00:54:36.760 scroll

00:54:37.120 down

00:54:37.480 on

00:54:37.720 the

00:54:37.920 document

00:54:38.500 so I

00:54:38.860 can see

00:54:39.380 my notes

00:54:41.020 and things

00:54:41.640 all

00:54:46.020 right

00:54:46.200 so

00:54:46.840 so

00:54:49.120 it's

00:54:49.580 been

00:54:49.860 five

00:54:50.280 years

00:54:50.720 since

00:54:51.060 Britain

00:54:51.380 left

00:54:51.800 the

00:54:52.320 EU

00:54:52.760 or

00:54:53.900 was

00:54:54.840 supposed

00:54:55.160 to

00:54:55.380 have

00:54:55.520 done

00:54:55.760 so I

00:54:57.800 do

00:54:57.920 quite

00:54:58.140 like

00:54:58.340 the

00:54:58.520 theme

00:54:58.880 of

00:54:59.520 this

00:55:00.700 thing

00:55:01.400 happened

00:55:01.760 on

00:55:01.920 this

00:55:02.060 day

00:55:02.200 in

00:55:02.300 history

00:55:02.620 I'm

00:55:03.940 quite

00:55:04.100 liking

00:55:04.440 that

00:55:04.680 it's

00:55:04.920 quite

00:55:05.100 a

00:55:05.260 rich

00:55:05.440 vein

00:55:05.840 of

00:55:06.160 inspiration

00:55:06.600 for

00:55:06.900 me

00:55:07.120 on

00:55:07.820 this

00:55:07.980 podcast

00:55:08.240 because

00:55:08.760 it

00:55:09.400 gives

00:55:10.440 you a

00:55:10.660 reason

00:55:10.820 to look

00:55:11.400 back

00:55:11.640 at

00:55:12.420 things

00:55:12.720 and it

00:55:13.100 kind

00:55:13.540 of

00:55:13.640 depends

00:55:13.980 when

00:55:14.220 you

00:55:14.340 measure

00:55:14.600 it

00:55:14.880 whether

00:55:16.020 it

00:55:16.160 was

00:55:16.240 the

00:55:16.360 day

00:55:16.620 the

00:55:17.120 parliament

00:55:17.520 voted

00:55:17.960 on

00:55:18.180 it

00:55:18.340 or

00:55:18.480 whether

00:55:18.660 it

00:55:18.780 was

00:55:18.860 the

00:55:18.980 day

00:55:19.260 the

00:55:19.880 thing

00:55:20.080 was

00:55:20.240 actually

00:55:20.640 finally

00:55:21.260 ratified

00:55:21.840 or

00:55:22.020 the

00:55:22.120 day

00:55:22.300 the

00:55:22.480 EU

00:55:22.780 recognised

00:55:23.280 it

00:55:23.420 or

00:55:23.500 whatever

00:55:23.720 but

00:55:23.900 anyway

00:55:24.100 more or

00:55:24.800 less

00:55:24.940 it's

00:55:25.120 five

00:55:25.380 years

00:55:25.760 since

00:55:26.040 then

00:55:26.320 and

00:55:27.780 there's

00:55:28.220 still

00:55:28.420 many

00:55:28.800 many

00:55:29.300 questions

00:55:29.720 to be

00:55:30.120 asked

00:55:30.420 so I

00:55:30.780 thought

00:55:30.940 first

00:55:31.240 of

00:55:31.380 all

00:55:31.560 we

00:55:32.020 could

00:55:32.120 just

00:55:32.280 do

00:55:32.600 a

00:55:32.700 bit

00:55:32.800 of

00:55:32.880 recap

00:55:33.180 for

00:55:33.380 anyone

00:55:33.600 who's

00:55:33.860 very

00:55:34.140 young

00:55:34.520 watching

00:55:35.540 this

00:55:35.760 who might

00:55:36.040 not

00:55:36.160 remember

00:55:36.460 anyone

00:55:36.780 from

00:55:37.260 another

00:55:37.880 country

00:55:38.280 who might

00:55:38.580 not

00:55:38.700 have paid

00:55:38.980 particular

00:55:39.500 attention

00:55:39.860 to it

00:55:40.340 we can

00:55:41.060 just

00:55:41.220 look back

00:55:41.640 at it

00:55:41.900 and

00:55:42.280 also

00:55:42.960 look

00:55:43.440 forward

00:55:43.840 to what

00:55:44.420 we might

00:55:44.940 be in store

00:55:45.500 for going

00:55:45.900 forward

00:55:46.300 so first

00:55:48.120 of all

00:55:48.380 then

00:55:48.660 the

00:55:51.580 pro

00:55:52.900 remain

00:55:53.740 people

00:55:54.340 side

00:55:54.840 of the

00:55:55.060 narrative

00:55:55.360 always

00:55:56.360 try to

00:55:56.720 say

00:55:56.920 that it's

00:55:57.280 just

00:55:57.620 small

00:55:58.240 minded

00:55:58.580 small

00:55:58.980 Englander

00:55:59.820 bigotry

00:56:00.900 all that

00:56:01.860 sort of

00:56:02.180 thing

00:56:02.380 that was

00:56:02.720 the only

00:56:02.960 reason

00:56:03.340 why you

00:56:03.840 would want

00:56:04.160 to leave

00:56:04.620 it's because

00:56:05.420 you're

00:56:05.740 stupid

00:56:06.440 or you're

00:56:07.280 bad

00:56:07.700 in some

00:56:08.600 way

00:56:09.100 racist

00:56:10.100 yeah of course

00:56:10.800 of course

00:56:11.320 racist

00:56:11.800 you just

00:56:13.320 can't

00:56:13.580 stomach

00:56:14.080 being near

00:56:14.980 a Polish

00:56:15.400 person

00:56:15.900 or something

00:56:17.320 completely

00:56:18.140 opposite

00:56:18.380 things

00:56:18.660 no it

00:56:19.380 was about

00:56:19.820 sovereignty

00:56:20.760 of course

00:56:22.160 it was about

00:56:22.700 sovereignty

00:56:23.160 where is

00:56:24.340 the where

00:56:24.820 does the

00:56:25.240 cockpit of

00:56:25.720 power lie

00:56:26.320 is it in

00:56:27.540 Westminster

00:56:28.020 or is it

00:56:29.180 in places

00:56:30.760 like Strasbourg

00:56:31.640 and

00:56:32.480 Brussels

00:56:33.680 or wherever

00:56:35.160 wherever the

00:56:35.700 various buildings

00:56:36.440 are

00:56:36.820 so one of the

00:56:39.420 main things

00:56:39.820 whenever I

00:56:40.440 spoke to

00:56:41.380 people that

00:56:42.180 don't

00:56:42.620 necessarily

00:56:43.000 know anything

00:56:43.480 about these

00:56:44.440 matters

00:56:44.840 which are

00:56:45.420 usually

00:56:45.740 remainers

00:56:46.860 a barbecue

00:56:48.260 or a dinner

00:56:48.700 party

00:56:48.980 or something

00:56:49.320 first thing

00:56:50.240 I always

00:56:50.600 go to

00:56:50.940 my first

00:56:51.340 port of

00:56:51.660 call

00:56:51.780 is just

00:56:52.100 to mention

00:56:52.660 the European

00:56:54.260 Court of

00:56:54.680 Justice

00:56:55.060 the ECJ

00:56:55.740 to say

00:56:57.380 so

00:56:57.660 the

00:56:58.480 judges

00:57:00.360 there

00:57:00.980 we don't

00:57:01.600 get to

00:57:01.980 pick them

00:57:02.500 the British

00:57:02.740 people

00:57:03.080 don't have

00:57:03.500 any say

00:57:03.960 and what

00:57:05.680 they decide

00:57:06.400 their precedents

00:57:07.120 they set

00:57:07.420 the things

00:57:07.760 they decide

00:57:08.200 upon

00:57:08.500 superseded

00:57:09.800 our laws

00:57:10.440 in all

00:57:10.740 sorts of

00:57:11.020 ways

00:57:11.280 they would

00:57:12.140 sit above

00:57:12.840 the laws

00:57:13.740 of parliament

00:57:14.120 so right

00:57:14.660 there

00:57:14.980 in a very

00:57:15.900 big way

00:57:16.680 in a very

00:57:17.000 real sense

00:57:17.740 we'd sacrifice

00:57:18.960 sovereignty

00:57:19.640 you know

00:57:21.420 they would

00:57:21.840 decide what

00:57:22.700 we can or

00:57:23.400 can't do

00:57:24.120 we'd have

00:57:25.040 no input

00:57:25.780 into who

00:57:26.620 those people

00:57:27.060 were

00:57:27.200 there's a

00:57:27.700 picture of

00:57:28.180 the ECJ

00:57:28.780 the outside

00:57:29.240 of the

00:57:29.480 building

00:57:29.800 looks very

00:57:31.800 dystopian

00:57:32.340 very fitting

00:57:32.920 yeah

00:57:33.860 if you

00:57:40.300 can't

00:57:40.680 think of

00:57:42.000 why

00:57:42.500 losing

00:57:43.740 your

00:57:43.960 sovereignty

00:57:44.260 might be

00:57:44.640 bad

00:57:44.960 say

00:57:46.060 that

00:57:46.560 Germany

00:57:47.700 or France

00:57:48.640 had a

00:57:49.140 particular

00:57:49.880 interest

00:57:51.080 say they

00:57:51.640 wanted to

00:57:52.520 penalise

00:57:53.800 a specific

00:57:54.460 British

00:57:54.960 industry

00:57:55.440 that's

00:57:55.720 competitive

00:57:56.100 with theirs

00:57:56.800 then they

00:57:57.800 could use

00:57:58.300 the courts

00:57:58.840 as a

00:57:59.280 tool

00:57:59.620 to

00:58:00.140 punish

00:58:00.620 Britain

00:58:02.360 and favour

00:58:03.000 themselves

00:58:03.580 and so

00:58:04.420 with all

00:58:05.740 courts

00:58:06.200 if you

00:58:07.920 can

00:58:08.400 manipulate

00:58:09.640 how it's

00:58:10.560 presented

00:58:10.920 and those

00:58:11.700 sorts of

00:58:11.960 things

00:58:12.120 you can

00:58:12.580 use it

00:58:13.960 as a

00:58:14.360 tool

00:58:14.720 to

00:58:15.520 advance

00:58:16.100 your own

00:58:16.540 interests

00:58:17.040 at the

00:58:17.420 expense

00:58:17.800 of

00:58:18.080 other

00:58:18.460 people

00:58:18.820 and when

00:58:19.280 you're

00:58:19.600 in a

00:58:20.920 legal

00:58:21.260 system

00:58:21.800 bound

00:58:22.680 together

00:58:23.240 that's

00:58:24.180 going to

00:58:24.380 cause

00:58:24.600 massive

00:58:25.200 problems

00:58:25.920 and they

00:58:27.340 absolutely

00:58:27.900 did do

00:58:28.360 that

00:58:28.580 almost

00:58:29.780 from the

00:58:30.260 beginning

00:58:30.520 to a

00:58:31.220 massive

00:58:31.460 extent

00:58:31.900 some

00:58:33.640 people

00:58:33.960 might argue

00:58:34.440 this is

00:58:34.860 a bit

00:58:35.060 low

00:58:35.260 resolution

00:58:35.720 and not

00:58:36.060 entirely

00:58:36.360 fair

00:58:36.580 but still

00:58:36.880 there's

00:58:37.080 a strong

00:58:37.480 argument

00:58:37.800 to be

00:58:38.020 made

00:58:38.280 that as

00:58:38.780 far as

00:58:38.980 the

00:58:39.100 French

00:58:39.320 are

00:58:39.440 concerned

00:58:39.660 the whole

00:58:39.940 thing

00:58:40.100 is a

00:58:40.320 project

00:58:40.660 in keeping

00:58:41.360 their

00:58:41.560 agriculture

00:58:42.020 going

00:58:42.400 the common

00:58:43.820 agricultural

00:58:44.340 policy

00:58:44.900 to make

00:58:45.540 sure

00:58:45.680 French

00:58:46.020 farmers

00:58:46.360 don't go

00:58:46.860 completely

00:58:47.280 bust

00:58:47.640 yeah

00:58:49.220 we got

00:58:49.440 screwed

00:58:49.720 over

00:58:50.080 we got

00:58:50.640 screwed

00:58:50.900 over

00:58:51.160 by the

00:58:51.920 European

00:58:52.320 project

00:58:52.940 endlessly

00:58:53.940 and it

00:58:55.060 wouldn't be

00:58:55.820 as bad

00:58:56.480 if we

00:58:56.800 had a

00:58:57.120 strong

00:58:57.400 seat

00:58:57.700 at the

00:58:57.920 table

00:58:58.240 and our

00:58:59.440 voices

00:58:59.740 were heard

00:59:00.280 and what

00:59:00.540 we wanted

00:59:01.240 was high

00:59:02.820 up on

00:59:03.120 the agenda

00:59:03.340 but it

00:59:03.560 wasn't

00:59:04.000 if anyone

00:59:04.880 remembers

00:59:05.420 one of the

00:59:05.860 last time

00:59:06.300 David Cameron

00:59:07.080 because Cameron

00:59:07.900 was Prime

00:59:08.240 Minister

00:59:08.400 at the time

00:59:08.720 one of the

00:59:09.300 last times

00:59:09.680 he went

00:59:10.100 to one

00:59:10.560 of the

00:59:10.740 big EU

00:59:11.160 summits

00:59:11.600 he gave

00:59:12.280 them a

00:59:12.680 few

00:59:12.840 ultimatums

00:59:13.420 saying

00:59:13.660 look

00:59:13.940 if you

00:59:15.140 don't

00:59:15.400 concede

00:59:15.780 X Y

00:59:16.260 Z

00:59:16.400 and do

00:59:16.960 various

00:59:17.560 things

00:59:17.880 and we

00:59:18.100 want a

00:59:18.400 rebate

00:59:18.780 and the

00:59:19.240 British

00:59:19.400 people

00:59:19.660 want these

00:59:20.080 things

00:59:20.580 then

00:59:21.480 we're

00:59:22.140 going to

00:59:22.360 have to

00:59:22.660 I'm going

00:59:22.940 to have

00:59:23.180 I'm on

00:59:23.560 under

00:59:24.100 enough

00:59:24.360 political

00:59:24.740 pressure

00:59:25.040 that I'll

00:59:25.340 have to

00:59:25.540 have a

00:59:25.760 referendum

00:59:26.140 about

00:59:26.640 our

00:59:27.400 membership

00:59:28.500 and

00:59:29.440 effectively

00:59:30.300 the EU

00:59:31.600 just said

00:59:32.660 pipe down

00:59:33.180 Dave

00:59:33.520 go away

00:59:34.520 we're not

00:59:34.820 even listening

00:59:35.420 just

00:59:35.940 it's the

00:59:39.480 German and

00:59:39.900 the French

00:59:40.240 project

00:59:40.620 and you're

00:59:41.360 on board

00:59:41.760 and that's

00:59:42.120 the end

00:59:42.240 of the

00:59:42.420 story

00:59:42.720 so

00:59:43.060 pipe down

00:59:43.760 well

00:59:45.500 we got

00:59:48.000 what would

00:59:48.240 happen

00:59:48.460 because if

00:59:48.760 anyone else

00:59:49.260 remembers

00:59:49.560 when David

00:59:50.280 Cameron was

00:59:50.860 in power

00:59:51.940 he gave

00:59:52.940 the country

00:59:53.520 a referendum

00:59:54.040 about PR

00:59:55.960 proportional

00:59:56.420 representation

00:59:56.880 which Clegg

00:59:57.840 and the Lib Dems

00:59:58.520 wanted

00:59:58.820 everyone that's

01:00:00.000 not really

01:00:00.500 Tory wants

01:00:02.320 so he had

01:00:04.120 that referendum

01:00:04.720 forced it through

01:00:05.300 super quick

01:00:05.780 before anyone

01:00:06.220 could

01:00:06.460 before Lib Dems

01:00:07.220 could really

01:00:07.500 mobilise

01:00:08.100 and won

01:00:09.060 that referendum

01:00:09.720 most people

01:00:10.560 didn't even

01:00:10.920 know it was

01:00:11.220 happening

01:00:11.560 also

01:00:12.240 it was

01:00:12.980 it was

01:00:13.640 one where

01:00:14.280 the Lib Dems

01:00:15.620 wanted AV

01:00:16.300 plus

01:00:16.720 and so

01:00:17.180 they put

01:00:17.600 in AV

01:00:18.600 so

01:00:19.640 it was

01:00:20.260 similar

01:00:20.580 but not

01:00:21.020 quite what

01:00:21.480 they wanted

01:00:21.940 and so

01:00:22.920 they were

01:00:23.200 sort of

01:00:23.420 a little bit

01:00:23.880 dispassionate

01:00:24.480 about it

01:00:24.860 themselves

01:00:25.260 I think

01:00:26.020 that's

01:00:26.220 probably

01:00:26.480 deliberate

01:00:26.960 yeah

01:00:27.520 oh yeah

01:00:27.820 so at

01:00:28.920 the time

01:00:29.240 David Cameron

01:00:29.860 as far as

01:00:30.280 he

01:00:30.600 calculated

01:00:31.620 so there

01:00:32.260 were sort

01:00:32.520 of three

01:00:33.020 big

01:00:33.440 things

01:00:34.060 that

01:00:34.500 three

01:00:35.460 big

01:00:36.020 topics

01:00:37.020 which

01:00:38.020 threatened

01:00:38.940 to fracture

01:00:40.120 the Tory

01:00:40.580 party

01:00:40.960 and had

01:00:42.160 been a thorn

01:00:42.740 in the side

01:00:43.320 of the Tories

01:00:44.580 or could

01:00:44.880 potentially be

01:00:45.400 a thorn

01:00:45.640 in the side

01:00:45.980 of his

01:00:46.240 governments

01:00:46.600 going forward

01:00:47.140 the PR

01:00:48.040 thing

01:00:48.400 because he

01:00:48.780 was in

01:00:48.940 a coalition

01:00:49.280 government

01:00:49.580 with the

01:00:49.900 Lib Dems

01:00:50.340 Scotland

01:00:51.040 because

01:00:52.640 the Scottish

01:00:54.460 nationalists

01:00:55.120 had become

01:00:56.320 a thing

01:00:56.600 by that

01:00:56.900 point

01:00:57.200 and it

01:00:57.860 was their

01:00:58.140 whole

01:00:58.540 point of

01:00:59.900 being

01:01:00.300 was to

01:01:01.000 have a

01:01:01.260 referendum

01:01:01.600 on that

01:01:02.140 so he

01:01:02.680 calculated

01:01:03.400 well if I

01:01:03.900 give them

01:01:04.200 the referendum

01:01:04.760 the numbers

01:01:05.900 look like

01:01:06.580 the polls

01:01:07.160 look like

01:01:07.440 we'll probably

01:01:07.860 win

01:01:08.220 and then I

01:01:08.820 can shut

01:01:09.240 them down

01:01:09.680 I can

01:01:09.960 close that

01:01:10.360 bag

01:01:10.700 and say

01:01:11.180 you're getting

01:01:11.640 your once

01:01:12.000 in a generation

01:01:12.480 chance

01:01:13.040 hopefully we'll

01:01:14.280 win

01:01:14.460 and then I

01:01:15.420 sort of win

01:01:16.060 that

01:01:16.440 that whole

01:01:17.300 sphere of

01:01:17.920 politics

01:01:18.280 I win it

01:01:18.860 and I can

01:01:19.380 put it

01:01:19.680 in the bin

01:01:20.120 so he did

01:01:21.140 that

01:01:21.340 everyone remembers

01:01:22.080 the Scottish

01:01:22.440 referendum

01:01:22.860 we had

01:01:23.580 and he won

01:01:23.940 that

01:01:24.040 so he had

01:01:24.420 two big

01:01:25.020 referendums

01:01:25.680 sort of

01:01:26.560 putting everything

01:01:27.020 on the line

01:01:27.520 gambling

01:01:27.980 politically

01:01:28.540 big time

01:01:29.060 and so he

01:01:30.220 thought

01:01:30.440 ah well

01:01:30.840 the other one

01:01:31.480 the thing

01:01:31.760 that's been

01:01:32.060 a thorn in

01:01:32.720 the side

01:01:33.240 of the Tory

01:01:34.120 party

01:01:34.520 since the

01:01:35.320 70s

01:01:35.860 is the

01:01:36.640 question of

01:01:37.120 Europe

01:01:38.820 I've thrown

01:01:39.360 the dice

01:01:39.760 twice

01:01:40.080 big time

01:01:40.640 and won

01:01:41.040 do the

01:01:42.600 third one

01:01:43.200 and I

01:01:44.520 could be

01:01:45.060 Prime Minister

01:01:45.440 for 20

01:01:45.880 years or

01:01:46.200 something

01:01:46.520 because he

01:01:48.360 thought

01:01:48.700 in fact most

01:01:49.680 pollsters

01:01:50.120 most people

01:01:50.640 thought that

01:01:51.280 Romain would

01:01:51.800 win

01:01:52.060 he gives us

01:01:53.220 a referendum

01:01:53.760 and loses

01:01:55.920 and his

01:01:56.480 government collapses

01:01:57.200 and he has to

01:01:57.640 resign as

01:01:58.100 Prime Minister

01:01:58.820 and we're

01:01:59.180 crying shame

01:02:00.040 that

01:02:00.260 personally

01:02:01.720 for Dave

01:02:03.020 but

01:02:04.460 so

01:02:05.420 since then

01:02:06.900 of course

01:02:07.180 we've been

01:02:08.520 in a sort

01:02:09.060 of a new

01:02:09.620 world

01:02:09.800 because a lot

01:02:10.200 of the

01:02:10.660 whole world

01:02:11.040 didn't really

01:02:11.520 see that

01:02:11.920 coming

01:02:12.260 right

01:02:13.020 oh there's

01:02:13.640 the inside

01:02:14.240 of the

01:02:14.660 go back

01:02:14.980 one

01:02:15.160 there's

01:02:15.620 the inside

01:02:16.040 of the

01:02:16.280 ECJ

01:02:16.800 just a

01:02:18.040 supranational

01:02:18.600 body

01:02:19.040 sitting above

01:02:20.300 Westminster

01:02:21.420 telling us

01:02:22.400 what we can

01:02:22.900 and can't

01:02:23.220 do

01:02:23.460 can and can't

01:02:24.220 say

01:02:24.500 can and can't

01:02:25.320 sell

01:02:25.640 to whom

01:02:26.400 the Remain

01:02:29.500 party

01:02:30.040 the Remain

01:02:30.720 side

01:02:31.300 are again

01:02:32.860 sort of

01:02:33.240 enemies

01:02:33.720 they're enemies

01:02:34.820 any Britain

01:02:35.940 that wants

01:02:36.580 less sovereignty

01:02:37.500 or anything

01:02:38.040 other than

01:02:38.500 more or less

01:02:38.940 complete sovereignty

01:02:40.360 for Parliament

01:02:41.620 it's like

01:02:43.620 well what are

01:02:44.240 you

01:02:44.360 you've got to

01:02:45.280 be classed

01:02:45.780 as some

01:02:46.000 kind of

01:02:46.280 enemy

01:02:46.680 quizling

01:02:47.460 yeah

01:02:48.180 some sort

01:02:49.240 of fifth

01:02:49.480 columnist

01:02:49.800 yeah there's

01:02:50.680 a picture

01:02:51.420 of some

01:02:52.120 of the

01:02:52.280 people

01:02:52.580 that

01:02:53.380 attempted

01:02:54.080 to rule

01:02:54.940 us and

01:02:55.260 dominate us

01:02:55.960 in effect

01:02:57.220 got nice

01:02:59.000 napkins on

01:02:59.880 if anyone

01:03:00.740 remembers

01:03:01.140 a bit of

01:03:02.020 the hysteria

01:03:03.340 that went

01:03:03.660 with it

01:03:03.940 do you

01:03:04.120 remember

01:03:04.320 that Steve

01:03:05.060 Bray chap

01:03:05.780 Mr Brexit

01:03:07.360 anyone who

01:03:07.940 doesn't know

01:03:08.520 or doesn't

01:03:09.040 remember

01:03:09.360 this guy

01:03:10.080 basically stood

01:03:11.120 outside Parliament

01:03:11.860 or in Parliament

01:03:12.420 Square

01:03:12.680 every single

01:03:13.220 day

01:03:13.500 I think it

01:03:13.980 was more

01:03:14.240 or less

01:03:14.480 practically

01:03:15.200 every single

01:03:15.760 day

01:03:16.060 for like a

01:03:16.740 few years

01:03:17.200 on end

01:03:17.520 that's right

01:03:17.960 yeah

01:03:18.240 just like

01:03:19.260 that

01:03:19.580 with a

01:03:20.760 loudspeaker

01:03:21.320 just heckling

01:03:22.740 anyone

01:03:23.660 in earshot

01:03:25.040 in Parliament

01:03:25.940 Square

01:03:26.400 about Brexit

01:03:28.680 like Brexit

01:03:29.300 must not happen

01:03:30.100 by the way

01:03:30.760 it looks like

01:03:32.200 his hat

01:03:32.540 says top

01:03:33.100 Brexit

01:03:33.580 so he's

01:03:34.100 like the

01:03:34.360 biggest fan

01:03:34.980 of Brexit

01:03:35.460 he'll just

01:03:35.940 be screaming

01:03:36.500 stop Brexit

01:03:37.620 like almost

01:03:39.480 all day

01:03:39.880 every day

01:03:40.280 and he'd

01:03:40.620 get in

01:03:40.900 little

01:03:41.140 altercations

01:03:41.760 I don't

01:03:42.080 think there

01:03:42.320 was any

01:03:42.520 real

01:03:42.780 there was

01:03:43.240 no real

01:03:43.520 violence

01:03:43.920 no real

01:03:44.300 fisticuffs

01:03:44.700 that's a bit

01:03:45.300 that was probably

01:03:46.760 about as

01:03:47.480 aggressive as

01:03:48.060 anything got

01:03:48.620 because he

01:03:49.660 was also

01:03:50.260 a bit of

01:03:50.940 a joke

01:03:51.360 there's

01:03:52.000 I think

01:03:52.320 there's

01:03:52.440 one

01:03:52.560 Titus

01:03:54.180 expression

01:03:54.640 there does

01:03:55.060 sort of

01:03:55.300 say

01:03:55.480 oh look

01:03:55.780 he's a

01:03:56.160 loony

01:03:56.520 this guy's

01:03:57.780 a loony

01:03:58.400 but I only

01:04:00.340 mention

01:04:00.860 Bray

01:04:01.500 as a

01:04:03.600 symptom of

01:04:04.120 how the

01:04:05.020 the Remains

01:04:06.380 side were

01:04:07.260 sort of

01:04:08.020 kind of

01:04:08.680 hysterical

01:04:09.380 with it

01:04:10.400 they still

01:04:10.960 go on about

01:04:11.480 it to this

01:04:11.960 day

01:04:12.220 all the time

01:04:13.480 I see people

01:04:14.300 with like

01:04:15.400 rejoin the

01:04:16.360 EU

01:04:16.720 in their

01:04:17.520 actual name

01:04:18.240 on Twitter

01:04:18.880 and James

01:04:20.600 O'Brien

01:04:21.100 still talks

01:04:21.700 about rejoining

01:04:22.280 the EU

01:04:22.680 all the time

01:04:23.420 you know

01:04:23.860 the progressives

01:04:25.740 and the left

01:04:26.560 absolutely hate

01:04:27.940 the fact

01:04:28.520 we left

01:04:29.080 that we

01:04:30.020 clawed back

01:04:30.600 a bit

01:04:31.100 of our

01:04:31.420 sovereignty

01:04:31.780 yeah

01:04:32.080 they despise

01:04:32.640 it

01:04:32.780 yeah

01:04:32.940 because

01:04:33.420 they're

01:04:33.620 enemies

01:04:33.980 they're

01:04:34.300 enemies

01:04:34.540 so

01:04:35.740 there's

01:04:37.840 there was

01:04:38.840 well

01:04:39.380 so

01:04:39.800 here's the

01:04:40.680 next thing

01:04:41.100 then

01:04:41.280 did we

01:04:42.020 really

01:04:42.440 leave

01:04:42.940 not

01:04:44.540 really

01:04:44.960 did we

01:04:45.340 really

01:04:45.640 leave

01:04:45.980 well

01:04:46.280 so

01:04:46.520 it's

01:04:46.780 a grey

01:04:47.080 area

01:04:47.460 it wasn't

01:04:49.000 100%

01:04:49.840 clean cut

01:04:50.460 divorce

01:04:50.960 in every

01:04:51.560 respect

01:04:52.000 because

01:04:53.300 there's

01:04:53.920 another

01:04:54.240 thing

01:04:54.600 the

01:04:55.040 ECHR

01:04:56.080 European

01:04:56.680 Court

01:04:57.060 of Human

01:04:57.660 Rights

01:04:58.100 that's

01:04:58.760 their

01:04:58.940 building

01:04:59.340 that looks

01:05:00.260 like it

01:05:00.700 should be

01:05:01.200 in Strasbourg

01:05:01.780 aerospace

01:05:02.520 yeah

01:05:03.440 yeah

01:05:04.680 an aerospace

01:05:05.420 so we

01:05:06.120 famously

01:05:06.720 everyone

01:05:07.180 probably

01:05:07.460 most people

01:05:07.840 watching this

01:05:08.180 will know

01:05:08.440 we didn't

01:05:08.900 leave that

01:05:09.420 no

01:05:10.080 which

01:05:10.560 is still

01:05:11.560 a thorn

01:05:11.860 in our

01:05:12.160 side

01:05:12.460 yeah

01:05:13.640 so we'll

01:05:14.720 try and deport

01:05:15.340 like foreign

01:05:16.920 criminals

01:05:17.540 and they'll say

01:05:18.140 you can't do

01:05:18.600 that on human

01:05:19.140 rights

01:05:19.560 grounds

01:05:20.500 you're not

01:05:21.220 allowed

01:05:21.720 you're not

01:05:22.680 allowed

01:05:23.220 just look

01:05:24.920 at

01:05:25.100 Switzerland

01:05:25.680 surrounded

01:05:26.980 by the

01:05:27.500 EU

01:05:27.820 basically

01:05:28.320 just

01:05:28.820 thriving

01:05:29.400 yeah

01:05:30.360 they're deporting

01:05:31.160 lots of

01:05:31.500 people

01:05:31.740 aren't they

01:05:32.020 that's the

01:05:32.340 inside of

01:05:32.940 the ECHR

01:05:33.600 very distrustful

01:05:38.000 a bunch of

01:05:38.440 completely

01:05:38.880 unelected

01:05:39.960 bureaucrats

01:05:40.560 and lawyers

01:05:41.020 telling us

01:05:41.800 what we

01:05:42.140 can or

01:05:42.460 can't do

01:05:42.880 and not

01:05:44.420 only that

01:05:44.860 but it's

01:05:45.440 quite obviously

01:05:46.080 detrimental

01:05:48.040 to us

01:05:48.700 the decisions

01:05:49.480 they make

01:05:49.900 no you

01:05:50.440 must keep

01:05:51.140 you must

01:05:52.000 allow

01:05:52.440 and then

01:05:52.900 keep

01:05:53.340 like

01:05:54.740 rapists

01:05:55.560 and murderers

01:05:56.280 and things

01:05:56.580 in your

01:05:56.800 country

01:05:57.120 it's worth

01:05:57.620 mentioning as

01:05:58.140 well that

01:05:58.660 other European

01:05:59.800 countries are

01:06:00.540 competitors to

01:06:01.400 Britain

01:06:01.700 right

01:06:02.080 and so it's

01:06:02.820 not like they

01:06:03.220 they necessarily

01:06:04.160 have our best

01:06:05.200 interests at heart

01:06:06.000 at least

01:06:06.640 at least in

01:06:07.680 many instances

01:06:08.500 of course if

01:06:09.140 you're like

01:06:09.500 if you're

01:06:10.100 trading with one

01:06:10.660 another which

01:06:11.120 we do with

01:06:11.560 many European

01:06:12.060 countries

01:06:12.640 there is some

01:06:13.960 sort of you

01:06:14.540 know rising

01:06:14.940 tide lifts or

01:06:15.640 boats but at

01:06:16.380 the same time

01:06:17.100 you want

01:06:17.980 comparative advantage

01:06:19.020 don't you

01:06:19.840 and that's

01:06:20.360 what this

01:06:21.300 provides it

01:06:22.140 gives them a

01:06:22.660 vehicle to

01:06:23.200 jockey for

01:06:23.980 advantage

01:06:24.800 sorry Staius

01:06:25.420 no and just

01:06:26.180 look at the

01:06:26.660 insanity of it

01:06:27.520 and the risks

01:06:28.460 they're willing

01:06:29.660 to take with

01:06:30.240 their population

01:06:30.900 with the people

01:06:32.280 in the name of

01:06:33.640 justice and

01:06:34.480 righteousness

01:06:34.900 because when

01:06:36.620 you have let's

01:06:37.320 say someone like

01:06:38.000 a rapist and

01:06:39.160 they go into

01:06:39.800 prison and then

01:06:40.520 they get out

01:06:41.700 of prison and

01:06:42.660 they don't deport

01:06:43.500 him on the

01:06:44.160 grounds that

01:06:44.900 there is a

01:06:46.460 risk there is a

01:06:47.340 high chance that

01:06:48.040 this person is

01:06:48.880 going to be

01:06:49.460 maltreated in

01:06:51.740 their country of

01:06:52.780 origin yeah so

01:06:54.160 okay let's say

01:06:55.560 that this is the

01:06:56.200 case are you

01:06:56.700 willing to risk

01:06:57.480 this person

01:06:58.180 re-offending against

01:06:59.220 the native people

01:07:00.240 you're not so

01:07:01.260 righteous it puts

01:07:02.200 the rights of

01:07:02.680 criminals above

01:07:03.280 those of the

01:07:03.820 native population

01:07:04.600 doesn't it in a

01:07:05.260 very explicit and

01:07:06.380 clear way and of

01:07:07.580 course I would

01:07:08.180 argue that them

01:07:09.380 risking mistreatment

01:07:11.540 in their home

01:07:12.100 country is you

01:07:14.160 know less than

01:07:15.720 they deserve in

01:07:16.500 many cases

01:07:17.120 actually I mean

01:07:18.180 yeah the more

01:07:19.600 criminal you are

01:07:20.520 the more you

01:07:21.200 risk mistreatment

01:07:22.060 that's how it

01:07:22.960 should go yeah

01:07:23.820 exactly this

01:07:24.680 cabal of liberals

01:07:27.620 and commies so

01:07:29.100 you must accept

01:07:30.120 endless Syrians

01:07:31.600 into your country

01:07:32.580 and let them do

01:07:33.380 what they will and

01:07:34.100 then you can't get

01:07:34.620 rid of them yeah

01:07:35.480 okay yeah okay

01:07:36.780 yeah and as you

01:07:37.780 say whenever like

01:07:39.460 on who's the

01:07:42.240 James O'Brien

01:07:42.780 show LBC

01:07:43.400 something like

01:07:44.320 that or the

01:07:44.760 Guardian will

01:07:46.060 endlessly talk

01:07:46.760 about rejoining

01:07:47.760 the EU or a

01:07:48.700 reset with them

01:07:49.540 or closer ties

01:07:50.420 with them or

01:07:50.980 just trying to

01:07:51.680 undo it the

01:07:52.660 small amount of

01:07:53.260 sovereignty we

01:07:53.780 have clawed back

01:07:54.600 try and reverse

01:07:55.640 that in some way

01:07:56.300 yeah whenever

01:07:56.880 there's any sort

01:07:57.500 of discussion

01:07:57.860 about the state

01:07:58.780 of our economy

01:07:59.380 it's cause of

01:08:00.140 Brexit no of

01:08:02.220 course not but

01:08:02.800 I was going to

01:08:03.100 make a broader

01:08:03.780 point that you

01:08:04.340 build on what

01:08:05.240 you're saying

01:08:05.600 there Stella

01:08:05.900 because I know

01:08:08.520 a fair bit about

01:08:09.060 the history of it

01:08:09.780 all and I would

01:08:11.880 say I think it's

01:08:12.560 fair people might

01:08:13.080 argue with this

01:08:13.860 view this take

01:08:15.440 on it but I'd

01:08:16.360 argue that the

01:08:17.060 modern EU the

01:08:18.600 various layers of

01:08:19.440 it were born out

01:08:21.420 of the post-war

01:08:22.920 era of trying to

01:08:26.580 make sure that

01:08:27.240 West Germany and

01:08:28.840 France or a

01:08:31.640 united Germany

01:08:32.580 whenever that might

01:08:33.200 have been because

01:08:34.560 of course that

01:08:34.900 didn't happen to

01:08:35.380 the Berlin Wall

01:08:35.880 came down in

01:08:36.340 89 but basically

01:08:37.820 Germany and

01:08:38.500 France should be

01:08:40.100 locked linked

01:08:41.220 together so that

01:08:42.180 they can never go

01:08:42.700 to war with

01:08:43.140 each other again

01:08:43.720 that ancient

01:08:45.280 feud between

01:08:46.260 the French and

01:08:48.300 the Germans

01:08:48.800 I saw Samson

01:08:51.200 pumping his

01:08:51.680 fists there

01:08:52.260 with his fingers

01:08:53.280 crossed

01:08:53.660 lots of hands

01:08:54.300 moving there

01:08:55.120 Samson wants

01:08:57.440 war

01:08:57.720 so the European

01:08:59.000 project and the

01:09:00.240 EU as it exists

01:09:01.000 today as I see

01:09:02.360 as a lot of

01:09:02.800 people see it

01:09:03.380 is essentially a

01:09:04.420 French and

01:09:04.820 German project

01:09:05.640 all the other

01:09:06.960 countries are

01:09:07.760 along for the

01:09:09.180 ride

01:09:09.480 now the real

01:09:11.320 reality is that

01:09:12.080 the most important

01:09:12.700 countries in

01:09:13.180 Europe are

01:09:13.740 France, Germany

01:09:14.420 and Britain

01:09:14.940 in terms of

01:09:16.100 economy, in

01:09:17.120 terms of

01:09:17.380 population, in

01:09:18.280 terms of

01:09:18.580 influence, in

01:09:19.700 terms of

01:09:20.080 military and

01:09:20.920 stuff so

01:09:21.420 we just got

01:09:23.520 sort of tagged

01:09:24.580 into it, tagged

01:09:25.480 along after we

01:09:26.340 came late to

01:09:26.860 the party in

01:09:27.460 the 70s.

01:09:27.660 Well wasn't it

01:09:28.020 in 1973 we

01:09:29.460 voted to join

01:09:30.260 the European

01:09:31.180 Economic Union

01:09:33.000 basically and the

01:09:33.640 idea was that

01:09:34.560 we're joining

01:09:35.440 in the auspices

01:09:37.520 of economic

01:09:38.340 cooperation, it

01:09:39.340 was like a

01:09:39.720 trade bloc

01:09:40.460 thing and that

01:09:41.320 was put to

01:09:41.740 referendum and

01:09:42.380 we voted for

01:09:43.020 it because you

01:09:43.480 know it's just

01:09:43.800 like do we want

01:09:44.320 to trade with

01:09:44.740 Europe or not,

01:09:45.600 well sure, and

01:09:47.520 then it became

01:09:48.020 something that

01:09:48.500 wasn't originally

01:09:50.040 right?

01:09:50.740 Yeah exactly,

01:09:51.240 yeah exactly.

01:09:52.040 The thing we

01:09:52.640 decided to go

01:09:54.060 for in the

01:09:54.700 70s is not

01:09:55.820 what we, that

01:09:57.340 exists today or

01:09:58.260 existed in

01:09:58.860 2014 or

01:10:00.720 whenever it

01:10:01.560 was the actual

01:10:02.060 referendum was.

01:10:03.240 Yeah and

01:10:03.500 there's many

01:10:03.800 layers, it is a

01:10:04.380 bit complicated

01:10:04.980 actually, there's

01:10:05.500 sort of the

01:10:05.880 Schengen zone,

01:10:06.960 there's the

01:10:07.100 actual European

01:10:07.760 Parliament, there's

01:10:08.600 the Commission,

01:10:09.160 there's the

01:10:09.360 various law

01:10:10.140 courts, there's

01:10:11.180 the currency,

01:10:12.000 there's various

01:10:12.440 layers to it,

01:10:13.360 the onion of

01:10:15.480 European bureaucracy.

01:10:16.820 And European

01:10:17.460 deception.

01:10:18.200 Yeah the onion

01:10:18.920 of European

01:10:19.380 deception.

01:10:20.860 And so we

01:10:21.820 weren't able or

01:10:22.500 didn't, perhaps

01:10:23.440 deliberately, able

01:10:24.680 to extract

01:10:25.240 ourselves wholesale

01:10:26.460 entirely, we

01:10:28.100 just weren't.

01:10:28.480 And now if

01:10:29.620 you want to

01:10:30.480 Samson, fairly

01:10:32.080 quickly just click

01:10:33.180 through a load of

01:10:33.840 links I've got

01:10:34.340 there, all sorts

01:10:34.960 of, all sorts

01:10:36.760 of headlines all

01:10:38.160 over the place,

01:10:38.660 going back a few

01:10:39.660 months some of

01:10:40.200 these, just the

01:10:41.980 end of, or since

01:10:42.760 the lefties knew

01:10:44.080 Labour was going

01:10:44.780 to get in, they

01:10:45.760 sort of ratchet up

01:10:46.480 their rhetoric about

01:10:47.300 let's rejoin or

01:10:48.360 they use words like

01:10:49.460 reset or closer

01:10:51.560 tyres with, or

01:10:53.300 there's all sorts

01:10:53.880 of...

01:10:54.180 Reset, that has a

01:10:55.720 strange implication

01:10:56.880 doesn't it?

01:10:57.580 We need to reset

01:10:58.380 our relationship.

01:10:59.180 The tide is

01:11:01.260 shifting, Lord

01:11:02.200 Kinnock, who

01:11:03.760 couldn't be more

01:11:05.140 pro-Europe type

01:11:06.100 person.

01:11:07.600 Anyway, they all

01:11:08.520 came out of the

01:11:09.060 woodwork when they

01:11:10.780 knew Starmer was

01:11:12.340 almost certainly

01:11:13.000 going to be PM.

01:11:13.800 The way in which

01:11:14.680 we talk about it

01:11:15.600 is some of the

01:11:17.420 language sort of

01:11:18.160 loses the nuance

01:11:18.940 here.

01:11:19.300 It's not that the

01:11:19.960 people who voted

01:11:20.620 Brexit are like

01:11:21.420 anti-Europe and

01:11:22.400 how we hate the

01:11:23.840 Continentals.

01:11:25.160 It's not, it

01:11:25.860 wasn't about that.

01:11:27.000 It was more that

01:11:27.800 we wanted our

01:11:28.740 own self-determination.

01:11:30.720 Like a lot of

01:11:31.320 people I spoke to

01:11:32.200 from outside of

01:11:33.360 Britain, I've

01:11:35.040 spoke to loads of

01:11:35.740 people that are

01:11:36.500 European from

01:11:37.560 pretty much every

01:11:38.320 country in Europe

01:11:39.240 and most of them

01:11:40.380 took it as, oh

01:11:41.760 you don't like us,

01:11:42.620 okay.

01:11:43.740 And they sort of

01:11:44.500 felt, it was sort

01:11:45.240 of like you've

01:11:46.020 rejected their

01:11:46.740 advances or

01:11:47.480 something.

01:11:48.180 Like they felt a

01:11:49.020 little bit spurned,

01:11:50.100 just like you don't

01:11:50.580 want to be a part

01:11:51.060 of us anymore.

01:11:51.900 But it's just like

01:11:52.400 no, we've already

01:11:53.560 been in an abusive

01:11:54.380 relationship with you

01:11:55.300 for 30 years.

01:11:56.160 We're trying to

01:11:57.600 dump you.

01:11:58.140 Look what you

01:11:58.620 made me do.

01:11:59.220 Yeah, I explained

01:12:02.840 to them that it's

01:12:03.600 not, it's not that

01:12:04.300 we just don't like

01:12:05.500 you, it's that the

01:12:06.640 things that the EU

01:12:07.900 is doing to us

01:12:08.880 are unfair.

01:12:10.320 And that even

01:12:12.280 now we're further

01:12:13.020 on, I feel like we

01:12:14.800 haven't actually

01:12:15.500 capitalised on the

01:12:16.760 advantages that

01:12:17.840 Brexit could have

01:12:19.080 given us.

01:12:19.760 I can testify for

01:12:20.760 you, Josh.

01:12:21.380 Thank you, Stalios.

01:12:22.440 I knew you could.

01:12:23.060 I mean, I was

01:12:24.440 just going to add

01:12:26.140 that because of

01:12:28.800 how sneaky those

01:12:29.980 EU bureaucrats

01:12:30.860 are, they sort of

01:12:31.800 enmeshed us in a

01:12:32.860 web of, not lies

01:12:36.120 necessarily, but just

01:12:37.520 there are so many

01:12:38.480 tripwires and

01:12:39.540 difficult things to

01:12:40.260 go through that we

01:12:41.400 end up getting EU

01:12:42.740 policies whether we

01:12:44.500 want them or not.

01:12:45.580 Like, for example,

01:12:47.100 the most prominent

01:12:47.960 example in Britain at

01:12:49.080 the minute is those

01:12:49.960 bottle caps that

01:12:51.140 attach to the bottle,

01:12:52.680 that's EU regulations

01:12:55.040 that have added that

01:12:55.720 and now it's in

01:12:56.380 Britain because, of

01:12:57.700 course, most bottle

01:12:58.320 manufacturers are

01:13:00.040 like, well, I'm not

01:13:00.620 going to have a

01:13:01.140 British-specific

01:13:02.060 machine to make

01:13:03.820 the bottles.

01:13:04.820 And so what we've

01:13:05.480 got is EU

01:13:06.580 regulation by default

01:13:08.060 because it's

01:13:09.560 easier to adhere

01:13:11.540 to Europe as a

01:13:12.860 block.

01:13:13.720 But they're sort of

01:13:15.860 leaning on that

01:13:16.740 deliberately to

01:13:17.680 penalise us and be

01:13:18.800 like, well, you're

01:13:19.340 not going to see any

01:13:20.060 gains from your

01:13:21.100 independence.

01:13:22.680 Because we're going

01:13:23.820 to get in the way

01:13:24.640 and spite you.

01:13:25.360 Because, of course,

01:13:26.240 the EU functions as

01:13:28.060 a bit of a power

01:13:30.440 block.

01:13:30.920 And if Britain

01:13:32.020 manages to wrestle

01:13:33.200 its way away and

01:13:33.900 does better, then it

01:13:35.600 threatens the entire

01:13:36.440 EU project.

01:13:37.320 And so they have to

01:13:38.340 crush us to survive.

01:13:39.920 And there's a very

01:13:40.720 clear incentive and

01:13:41.640 they've been trying to

01:13:42.540 do it ever since we

01:13:43.480 voted to leave.

01:13:44.240 There is a communicative

01:13:46.440 aspect of it, especially

01:13:48.320 regarding the

01:13:49.060 mainstream media that

01:13:49.980 I see every time I

01:13:51.160 speak with people on

01:13:52.360 the continent.

01:13:53.680 And there is a

01:13:54.840 deliberate effort to

01:13:56.080 present everything as

01:13:57.400 a close catastrophe.

01:14:01.960 So I'll just give you

01:14:03.540 a funny example.

01:14:04.640 When was the first

01:14:06.200 COVID lockdown?

01:14:07.480 lockdown, there

01:14:08.880 were a lot of

01:14:09.780 mainstream media in

01:14:11.740 continental Europe

01:14:14.180 that were saying

01:14:14.880 basically that there

01:14:15.980 are going to be

01:14:16.480 endless food shortages

01:14:17.780 in England because

01:14:20.680 of Brexit.

01:14:22.220 And people were

01:14:23.100 calling me and

01:14:23.820 telling me, just go

01:14:24.760 and pick rations and

01:14:25.900 just for the lockdown

01:14:27.300 just have stuff

01:14:28.480 bypassed.

01:14:29.480 And I went in and

01:14:31.180 said, the only thing

01:14:32.080 there's a shortage of

01:14:32.980 is beer.

01:14:34.880 There was an actual

01:14:35.940 shortage of beer in

01:14:38.040 the supermarket.

01:14:39.280 That's how you know

01:14:39.860 you're in Britain,

01:14:40.540 yeah.

01:14:41.620 I mean, the European

01:14:42.360 Union, I do see, is an

01:14:43.700 extension of French and

01:14:45.560 German power, but

01:14:46.500 mainly German.

01:14:48.180 They dominate it

01:14:49.300 politically and

01:14:50.200 economically in all

01:14:50.940 sorts of ways.

01:14:51.540 I mean, look how

01:14:52.220 Germany effectively

01:14:53.520 treated Greece when

01:14:55.800 they had their

01:14:56.840 economic problems a

01:14:58.280 few years ago.

01:14:59.480 they just put Greece

01:15:00.620 into hock to

01:15:01.760 Germany financially

01:15:03.680 in a massive way.

01:15:06.160 They treated Greece

01:15:07.200 not like they were a

01:15:09.280 sovereign body of

01:15:10.160 people.

01:15:10.820 They treated them

01:15:11.440 like they were a

01:15:12.300 sort of their charge,

01:15:13.720 like a little brother

01:15:14.560 or worse than that.

01:15:15.880 There's an element

01:15:16.560 that disliked little

01:15:17.420 brother.

01:15:17.960 There's an element,

01:15:18.620 but I have a very

01:15:19.660 controversial view

01:15:21.260 in Greece that the

01:15:23.220 Greek crisis, I

01:15:23.980 think, was 100%

01:15:25.660 our issue, our

01:15:27.120 fault.

01:15:28.180 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:15:28.940 It's just 100% our

01:15:31.040 fault.

01:15:32.200 And a lot of the,

01:15:34.960 yeah, anyway, just

01:15:36.000 that's for another

01:15:36.980 time.

01:15:37.340 But there was an

01:15:38.680 element of that, but

01:15:39.720 I think that it was

01:15:40.760 vastly exaggerated.

01:15:42.140 Essentially, Germany,

01:15:42.980 because I think the

01:15:43.560 German banks hold the

01:15:45.540 purse strings and

01:15:46.740 they're like, we'll

01:15:47.180 bail you out, we'll

01:15:48.020 bail you out, but you

01:15:49.700 will owe us for

01:15:50.940 decades, centuries or

01:15:52.440 whatever it is, silly,

01:15:53.460 silly amount of debt

01:15:55.140 incurred.

01:15:55.940 Yeah, but they,

01:15:56.780 yeah, that's

01:15:57.960 we'll keep you on a

01:15:58.640 tight leash.

01:15:59.920 We'll bail you out,

01:16:01.160 but you will belong to

01:16:02.580 us in an indirect

01:16:03.940 sense.

01:16:04.800 I think the irony of

01:16:06.540 it was that they gave

01:16:07.520 us some of the

01:16:08.160 better terms than the

01:16:10.220 other, but let's.

01:16:11.240 But anyway, yeah, I

01:16:11.960 mean, we could do a

01:16:12.720 whole bit of content

01:16:13.980 about what happened

01:16:14.680 there.

01:16:15.280 We could talk about it

01:16:16.080 in detail.

01:16:16.540 But anyway, yeah, just

01:16:17.920 to say, I was going to,

01:16:19.240 it's Clive Lewis there

01:16:20.020 at the front there,

01:16:21.420 says all you need to

01:16:22.600 know about the

01:16:23.200 Remainer camp.

01:16:24.440 If you remember what,

01:16:25.300 how Berco behaved and

01:16:26.460 how the Labour behaved

01:16:28.060 during the Theresa May

01:16:29.620 and Boris years of

01:16:30.740 trying to get it

01:16:31.320 through.

01:16:31.900 And anyway, we didn't

01:16:32.700 even properly leave

01:16:33.740 anyway.

01:16:36.120 If you remember, if

01:16:37.100 anyone remembers

01:16:37.600 Change UK.

01:16:39.020 Of course, yeah.

01:16:39.900 With the likes of

01:16:40.600 Luciana Berger, Anne

01:16:42.440 Kofi, Mike Gapes,

01:16:44.720 Chris Leslie, Gavin

01:16:46.240 Shuka, Angela

01:16:47.160 Smith, Chaka

01:16:48.180 Amuna, anyone

01:16:48.740 remember Chaka

01:16:49.360 Amuna?

01:16:50.020 Where is he these

01:16:50.680 days?

01:16:51.340 Nowhere.

01:16:52.780 Some political giants

01:16:54.180 you've listed off

01:16:54.920 there, Beau.

01:16:55.580 You know, big names

01:16:56.560 to this day.

01:16:58.320 The political behemoth

01:16:59.840 that is Luciana

01:17:00.820 Berger.

01:17:02.120 What's she doing

01:17:02.840 now?

01:17:03.280 Who cares?

01:17:03.840 Nothing.

01:17:04.360 No one.

01:17:04.780 No one cares.

01:17:05.920 Yeah, they were

01:17:06.460 just so wrong.

01:17:07.080 Anna Soubry.

01:17:10.000 I've just noticed.

01:17:10.860 The name is like a

01:17:12.120 byword for a

01:17:13.000 political failure,

01:17:14.060 right?

01:17:14.160 And that's me.

01:17:14.720 It's true, yeah.

01:17:15.120 Who didn't even

01:17:15.600 make it to a general

01:17:16.300 election before getting

01:17:17.340 deselected.

01:17:19.220 Even I appoint and

01:17:21.020 laugh at Anna Soubry's

01:17:22.280 political career, yeah.

01:17:23.260 Hysterica, laugh.

01:17:24.680 Oh yeah, I did an article

01:17:27.720 there about how Bercow

01:17:29.640 behaved.

01:17:30.480 Hilarious from there.

01:17:31.120 It was absolutely absurd

01:17:33.720 how he behaved as

01:17:34.760 speaker during that

01:17:36.140 period.

01:17:37.660 And he later went on

01:17:39.080 quite shortly after he

01:17:40.820 was sort of thrown out

01:17:42.020 effectively.

01:17:43.140 He was shown to have

01:17:44.060 actually broken some

01:17:45.540 rules and misbehaved

01:17:47.120 sort of formally.

01:17:48.340 It was sort of all

01:17:49.040 investigated and all the

01:17:50.780 it went on record as

01:17:52.140 that the conclusions was

01:17:54.420 that he was a bully and

01:17:55.340 a liar.

01:17:55.840 I think that's what it

01:17:56.520 was.

01:17:56.740 I think I say in the

01:17:58.460 article I can say this

01:17:59.400 without fear of litigation

01:18:01.800 or anything because it's

01:18:02.840 sort of an established

01:18:03.520 fact.

01:18:04.420 Yeah, there you go.

01:18:05.000 It's a serial bully.

01:18:07.660 That was one of the

01:18:08.100 things.

01:18:08.300 Sorry, go ahead.

01:18:08.880 The conclusion of our

01:18:09.680 investigations find you a

01:18:10.920 bully and a liar.

01:18:11.980 Yeah.

01:18:12.840 Yeah.

01:18:13.200 What a funny conclusion.

01:18:15.340 True though.

01:18:15.800 So anyway, just to finish

01:18:17.480 up then and say going

01:18:19.380 forward, what might

01:18:20.580 happen?

01:18:21.620 I hope, I think and I

01:18:24.240 hope Keir Starmer is not

01:18:25.300 going to just actually

01:18:25.980 fully rejoin the EU the

01:18:28.580 way it used to be.

01:18:31.340 But they are certainly

01:18:32.680 making noises and moves

01:18:34.080 to quote unquote reset

01:18:36.060 or to have closer

01:18:38.720 ties with the European

01:18:42.340 Union in all sorts of

01:18:43.820 ways and that's just

01:18:46.460 not what the majority

01:18:47.940 of the people wanted in

01:18:48.900 this country.

01:18:49.420 It's just not what we've

01:18:50.060 wanted.

01:18:50.620 And least of all, I

01:18:51.480 haven't even talked about

01:18:52.420 the migration side of

01:18:54.140 it.

01:18:54.740 One of the big things

01:18:55.500 why we wanted to get

01:18:56.180 rid of the EUs because

01:18:56.920 like the ECJ, they were

01:19:00.280 telling us you basically

01:19:01.600 must have open borders

01:19:02.620 from other member states

01:19:03.740 like Poland or

01:19:04.580 whatever.

01:19:05.320 You must allow almost

01:19:07.020 an endless stream of

01:19:07.880 them.

01:19:08.040 And we're like, well, we

01:19:08.460 don't want that.

01:19:09.000 We don't want that.

01:19:09.580 In fact, we'll rework our

01:19:11.420 entire body politic in

01:19:13.460 order so that that

01:19:14.160 can't happen.

01:19:14.980 And what did the

01:19:15.440 Tories do?

01:19:15.900 Just go, okay, well,

01:19:16.560 we'll get them from

01:19:17.160 Nigeria or Bangladesh

01:19:18.200 or India then.

01:19:20.080 700, 800,000 a year

01:19:21.380 from the subcontinent

01:19:23.060 then.

01:19:24.000 Not entirely that

01:19:24.900 number is all from

01:19:25.560 the subcontinent.

01:19:26.140 But I mean, last year

01:19:26.760 it was like quarter of

01:19:27.400 a million Indians, right?

01:19:28.460 Just last year.

01:19:29.120 Yep.

01:19:30.100 So that seems

01:19:32.780 calculated, seems

01:19:33.440 deliberate.

01:19:34.680 Again, exactly not

01:19:36.240 what we wanted.

01:19:37.620 Sometimes I speak to

01:19:38.620 Americans on different

01:19:40.540 streams I'm on and

01:19:41.360 things and they say,

01:19:42.080 you did this, you

01:19:43.260 did that.

01:19:43.760 You allowed your

01:19:44.460 country to be flooded

01:19:45.460 by...

01:19:45.800 No, we didn't.

01:19:47.240 No one wanted this.

01:19:48.240 We've been saying it

01:19:48.800 for decades.

01:19:49.220 We've been saying it

01:19:49.620 since the 60s.

01:19:51.020 No, we don't want to

01:19:52.060 be flooded by foreign

01:19:52.960 people.

01:19:53.420 Is that all right?

01:19:54.260 We don't want some.

01:19:55.040 We're not complete

01:19:55.720 insane bigots who

01:19:57.820 can't stand to see a

01:19:58.880 foreign face.

01:19:59.780 But we just don't

01:20:00.600 want to be replaced by

01:20:01.620 them.

01:20:01.840 We don't want to be

01:20:02.320 absolutely flooded by

01:20:03.560 them.

01:20:04.540 So no, we didn't.

01:20:05.640 It was done by a

01:20:07.000 cabal against our

01:20:08.100 will that promised

01:20:10.460 they wouldn't.

01:20:12.100 So what's going to

01:20:12.780 happen in the future?

01:20:13.820 Well, hopefully

01:20:15.140 Starmer doesn't take

01:20:16.640 us straight entirely

01:20:17.580 back in and then

01:20:18.900 hopefully we'll get a

01:20:20.540 government.

01:20:21.840 The best we can hope

01:20:22.620 for really is reform,

01:20:23.500 isn't it?

01:20:24.260 Realistically.

01:20:25.340 I mean, in the polls,

01:20:26.180 I saw recently the

01:20:27.100 reform even edged out

01:20:28.360 Labour in the polls.

01:20:29.200 Number one, yeah.

01:20:29.840 Number one.

01:20:31.060 So it's not, it's far

01:20:32.120 from crazy to think

01:20:34.020 that Nige could be

01:20:35.720 p.m. in 29 or

01:20:37.920 whenever it will be.

01:20:38.980 It's not completely

01:20:39.540 crazy.

01:20:40.860 So the best we can

01:20:41.820 hope for realistically

01:20:42.600 would be that.

01:20:44.820 Hopefully you can put

01:20:45.680 Prince Rupert, Rupert

01:20:49.240 Lowe over at the

01:20:50.120 home office and he

01:20:51.180 can start kicking some

01:20:52.040 ass and taking names.

01:20:53.380 That'd be nice.

01:20:54.640 And then maybe we can

01:20:55.540 leave like the ECHR

01:20:57.360 or maybe we can have a

01:20:59.380 new department for

01:21:00.400 remigration or whatever

01:21:02.260 and hopefully we can cut

01:21:03.700 all the last apron

01:21:04.760 strings from the EU

01:21:06.300 and let the French

01:21:07.360 and the Germans get

01:21:08.040 on with it.

01:21:08.720 And one last point I

01:21:09.380 would make is that

01:21:10.060 Le Pen, I believe,

01:21:11.800 it's her policy that

01:21:12.760 she wants to leave the

01:21:14.280 EU.

01:21:14.740 I think the AFD do.

01:21:16.180 Certainly there's a

01:21:16.740 faction of them that

01:21:17.800 say they do.

01:21:18.780 If France or Germany

01:21:20.060 quit the EU, the

01:21:22.020 whole project is

01:21:23.220 either at best

01:21:25.200 extremely shaky

01:21:26.440 or it's just done.

01:21:28.020 If France or Germany,

01:21:28.780 particularly Germany,

01:21:29.440 if Germany leaves,

01:21:30.200 it's like you're just

01:21:31.120 left with some rump.

01:21:31.920 It's just France like

01:21:32.800 trying to still

01:21:34.240 control Greece

01:21:35.800 and Spain

01:21:36.500 and Belgium.

01:21:38.400 It's still good,

01:21:39.220 it's still good.

01:21:40.000 They still can't

01:21:40.680 control themselves

01:21:41.700 either.

01:21:42.400 If France or Germany

01:21:43.380 leave, I would

01:21:44.080 suspect the whole

01:21:44.860 thing would change

01:21:46.700 profoundly.

01:21:48.060 It wouldn't just be

01:21:48.500 wounded.

01:21:49.120 When we left the EU,

01:21:50.000 it was wounded in a

01:21:50.940 way.

01:21:51.820 It wouldn't be that.

01:21:52.620 It would be the whole

01:21:53.340 thing is in question

01:21:54.180 now.

01:21:54.540 So anyway, looking back

01:21:55.820 over five years,

01:21:56.720 what's happened,

01:21:57.400 not enough, in my

01:21:58.840 opinion, in most

01:21:59.340 people's opinion,

01:22:00.500 in reformed people,

01:22:01.400 Brexit Party

01:22:02.720 leave people's

01:22:04.360 opinion.

01:22:05.120 We didn't really

01:22:05.880 properly leave.

01:22:06.500 I mean, UKIP is

01:22:07.080 still around,

01:22:08.560 and that's exactly

01:22:09.580 what they say.

01:22:10.120 People say,

01:22:10.460 why do you need

01:22:10.860 UKIP anymore?

01:22:11.460 Why does UKIP

01:22:11.960 even exist anymore?

01:22:13.180 UK independence.

01:22:13.700 We've got independence.

01:22:14.420 It's all over.

01:22:15.240 Well, it's not,

01:22:15.700 though, is it?

01:22:17.140 If you talk to

01:22:18.100 Nick Tenconi,

01:22:18.820 the leader of UKIP,

01:22:19.840 he would say,

01:22:20.220 well, we haven't

01:22:20.720 left, though.

01:22:22.380 And he's right,

01:22:22.960 in my opinion.

01:22:23.780 So, we've still

01:22:26.340 got to go through

01:22:27.020 a few more years

01:22:28.400 of Chairman

01:22:31.120 Starmer,

01:22:32.580 and then hopefully,

01:22:34.660 fingers crossed,

01:22:35.300 we'll get at least

01:22:36.360 a reasonable

01:22:37.680 government that

01:22:38.380 can try and put

01:22:40.840 an end to the

01:22:42.660 whole sordid

01:22:43.660 business.

01:22:46.780 Okay.

01:22:48.000 I think we'll do

01:22:48.520 the video comments

01:22:49.140 and then we'll do

01:22:49.540 the rumble chats,

01:22:50.200 if that's all right,

01:22:50.780 Samson.

01:22:51.040 But I do want

01:22:53.540 the collectivism

01:22:54.300 which is the

01:22:55.140 spirit of Britain.

01:22:56.400 I want the sort

01:22:57.180 of collectivism

01:22:57.800 where we all

01:22:58.320 understand that,

01:22:59.520 you know,

01:22:59.820 you take your turns

01:23:00.600 being served at the

01:23:01.360 bar,

01:23:01.900 or you queue when

01:23:02.600 you go to the

01:23:02.960 post office.

01:23:03.420 The Chinese and

01:23:04.120 Japanese are

01:23:05.020 collectivist because

01:23:06.020 it's a cultural

01:23:06.980 thing,

01:23:07.420 it's sort of

01:23:07.880 inculcated in them,

01:23:09.080 even though they've

01:23:09.540 got very different

01:23:10.140 political systems,

01:23:11.600 and, you know,

01:23:12.360 Germanic types,

01:23:13.320 Northern Europeans

01:23:14.080 are some of the

01:23:15.020 most individualistic

01:23:16.120 because it's sort

01:23:17.180 of in our,

01:23:19.040 so ingrained in our

01:23:20.040 culture,

01:23:20.420 it's almost in our

01:23:20.980 DNA,

01:23:21.420 and it could well

01:23:21.840 be actually.

01:23:25.740 Well,

01:23:26.440 it's nice to be

01:23:26.960 vindicated,

01:23:27.540 thank you very much.

01:23:29.200 Yeah,

01:23:29.720 I think that people

01:23:30.700 quite often

01:23:31.480 misunderstand what it

01:23:33.280 means to be an

01:23:33.840 individualist or a

01:23:34.960 collectivist,

01:23:35.600 like people

01:23:36.080 characterize it as

01:23:37.440 either you're like a

01:23:39.740 human embodiment of

01:23:40.960 a bee as the

01:23:42.200 collectivist,

01:23:43.600 or, you know,

01:23:45.300 a hyper-individualist,

01:23:46.700 hyper-individualist

01:23:48.240 is like Robinson

01:23:49.060 and Crusoe or

01:23:50.460 a hikakomori in

01:23:51.800 Japan where they

01:23:52.440 just don't leave

01:23:52.980 their bedroom and

01:23:53.640 live on their own.

01:23:54.560 These are not the

01:23:55.380 polls.

01:23:55.840 I think what it

01:23:56.300 actually means in a

01:23:57.600 psychological dimension,

01:23:58.900 and this is the

01:23:59.700 correct way to

01:24:00.300 understand it rather

01:24:01.120 than the political

01:24:01.580 one, so it's

01:24:02.360 actually based on

01:24:03.020 evidence,

01:24:04.020 really passive-aggressive,

01:24:05.680 I'm sorry,

01:24:06.340 is that people who are

01:24:08.340 collectivist see being

01:24:10.740 dependent on others

01:24:11.960 as being less

01:24:14.440 shameful, and it's

01:24:16.020 all about

01:24:16.500 dependence and

01:24:18.140 independence and

01:24:19.060 agency, and I

01:24:20.580 think that that's

01:24:22.160 how it operates at a

01:24:23.040 psychological level,

01:24:24.100 and I think that's

01:24:24.600 the most interesting

01:24:25.400 way of looking at

01:24:26.220 it.

01:24:28.560 On the subject of

01:24:30.320 corner stores

01:24:31.780 playing classical

01:24:33.040 music that drive

01:24:34.280 away the milling

01:24:35.200 glasses, I find

01:24:36.580 myself thinking

01:24:37.420 about the movie

01:24:38.600 Princess and the

01:24:39.580 Gobblers, based

01:24:40.440 off of the 1870s,

01:24:41.880 novel, and how

01:24:43.220 they also defeat

01:24:44.340 the Goblins, who

01:24:45.240 are degenerates, by

01:24:46.400 singing a wholesome

01:24:47.800 sermon, choir-type

01:24:49.820 songs, which

01:24:51.640 apparently drives

01:24:52.540 them away like a

01:24:53.260 cross to Romanians.

01:24:55.060 The original

01:24:55.620 author, George

01:24:56.700 MacDonald, was

01:24:57.520 actually a Scottish

01:24:58.380 minister, apparently,

01:24:59.580 and actually was

01:25:00.560 quite a prolific

01:25:01.440 writer.

01:25:05.360 That guy does not

01:25:06.480 look Scottish at

01:25:07.240 all, does he?

01:25:08.560 He looks Russian.

01:25:09.700 bit of the

01:25:11.700 Rasputin look.

01:25:12.580 He does, doesn't

01:25:13.120 he?

01:25:13.820 No, that's true.

01:25:14.920 I think that if you

01:25:17.840 show something good to

01:25:19.100 someone bad, they do

01:25:20.280 recoil, and it's

01:25:21.580 always a good measure

01:25:22.520 of character to find

01:25:23.500 out what people like.

01:25:24.540 Throw them holy

01:25:25.160 water and see how

01:25:26.040 they react.

01:25:27.380 Or start fizzing and

01:25:28.540 melting.

01:25:29.560 When people actively

01:25:30.560 dislike wholesome

01:25:31.560 things, it's like,

01:25:32.900 what's wrong with you?

01:25:34.760 That's a window into

01:25:35.460 your soul.

01:25:36.040 If someone doesn't

01:25:37.060 like animals or

01:25:38.200 pets, I'm just

01:25:39.120 like, you're a

01:25:40.360 psychopath, aren't

01:25:41.160 you?

01:25:43.120 I know it was a

01:25:43.820 while ago now, but

01:25:44.480 watching the non-car

01:25:45.200 people political class

01:25:46.080 talk about the

01:25:46.540 Jaguar thing, y'all

01:25:47.540 left out half a

01:25:48.240 story.

01:25:48.700 Earlier this year,

01:25:49.460 the Jaguar CEO

01:25:50.260 announced that they

01:25:50.820 were tripling down

01:25:51.540 an all-electric

01:25:52.140 lineup.

01:25:52.580 He also said they

01:25:53.080 were trying to

01:25:53.520 move Jaguar up to

01:25:54.560 compete with Rolls

01:25:55.220 Royce and Bentley,

01:25:55.960 and that quote

01:25:56.360 traditional Jaguar

01:25:57.200 buyers, like me,

01:25:58.020 would be left

01:25:58.380 behind in the name

01:25:59.140 of progress.

01:25:59.880 The pink horror

01:26:00.580 they unveiled was

01:26:01.400 really them trying

01:26:02.080 to ingratiate

01:26:02.700 themselves with the

01:26:03.400 upper crust of

01:26:04.120 Rolls Royce

01:26:04.660 owners.

01:26:04.980 Of course, what

01:26:05.200 made Jaguar work

01:26:06.020 was a fantastic

01:26:06.820 engine made of

01:26:07.500 the best suspension

01:26:08.160 design around in

01:26:08.920 a classically styled

01:26:09.740 body for a

01:26:10.360 suspiciously low

01:26:11.040 price, the

01:26:11.720 opposite of what

01:26:12.320 they're doing now.

01:26:13.180 You're the last

01:26:13.860 of a proud line,

01:26:14.760 buddy.

01:26:15.520 Sorry.

01:26:17.400 We were just

01:26:18.100 talking about

01:26:18.640 Jags earlier today,

01:26:19.740 weren't we, in

01:26:20.300 the office?

01:26:21.040 That's a really

01:26:21.600 nice, I don't

01:26:22.240 know whether that

01:26:22.620 was 70s or 80s

01:26:23.880 Jag, I don't like

01:26:24.540 the yellow, but

01:26:25.620 a lovely, other

01:26:27.060 than the colour,

01:26:27.780 lovely car, that,

01:26:28.840 an old analogue,

01:26:30.080 proper heavy, old

01:26:30.980 school, well-built

01:26:31.800 Jag.

01:26:33.300 The Prime Minister's

01:26:34.120 always used to

01:26:35.020 drive around in

01:26:35.740 armoured Jags,

01:26:36.580 didn't they?

01:26:36.840 I don't think they

01:26:37.220 do anymore.

01:26:37.820 Is it like a

01:26:38.780 Prime Ministerial

01:26:39.500 Land Rover or

01:26:40.220 something they've

01:26:40.520 got now?

01:26:40.820 But for years,

01:26:41.940 all throughout my

01:26:42.720 childhood, when it

01:26:43.300 was Thatcher and

01:26:44.180 Major and Blair,

01:26:45.340 they would always

01:26:46.000 come out of

01:26:46.340 Number 10 and

01:26:46.720 get in a Jag,

01:26:47.460 an old sort of

01:26:48.000 80s Jag.

01:26:49.380 The decline's

01:26:50.120 going to be when

01:26:50.640 they get a

01:26:51.140 Prius.

01:26:51.800 A special, I

01:26:54.160 believe, armoured

01:26:55.040 Jag.

01:26:56.220 And I've

01:26:57.140 always thought

01:26:57.500 to myself, if

01:26:57.960 money was no

01:26:58.440 option, if I

01:26:59.000 was Bill Gates

01:26:59.460 rich, I would

01:27:01.100 want one of

01:27:01.640 those ex-Prime

01:27:02.520 Ministerial armour

01:27:03.580 plated Jaguars.

01:27:04.540 Yeah, I want

01:27:04.940 one of those and

01:27:05.640 I also want a

01:27:06.300 button that I

01:27:07.400 can press, a big

01:27:07.960 red button, I

01:27:08.660 press it and it

01:27:09.460 fires rockets out

01:27:10.360 like James Bond.

01:27:11.640 Yeah, the front

01:27:12.060 headlights go down

01:27:12.820 and they're little

01:27:13.140 rockets.

01:27:14.420 Or a minigun pops

01:27:15.600 up from the roof.

01:27:17.300 Yes, please.

01:27:17.980 California has

01:27:20.480 the most massive

01:27:21.280 tree in the

01:27:21.920 world.

01:27:22.600 This giant

01:27:23.120 sequoia redwood

01:27:24.080 is 84 meters

01:27:25.320 high and 31

01:27:26.380 meters in diameter

01:27:27.520 at ground level.

01:27:28.820 Named the

01:27:29.160 General Sherman

01:27:29.780 Tree, it is

01:27:30.660 estimated to be

01:27:31.420 about 2,200

01:27:32.640 years old.

01:27:33.960 Deep lore time,

01:27:34.820 a communist

01:27:35.280 group settled

01:27:35.880 in the area in

01:27:36.600 1886 and cursed

01:27:38.180 the tree with

01:27:38.700 the name Karl

01:27:39.920 Marx.

01:27:40.860 In time, the

01:27:41.500 communists had

01:27:42.100 their land taken

01:27:42.880 by the government

01:27:43.520 for a national

01:27:44.160 park and they

01:27:44.960 were eventually

01:27:45.480 jailed.

01:27:46.140 So much irony,

01:27:47.000 only 30 seconds.

01:27:47.980 Wow, 2,200.

01:27:52.000 So like when it

01:27:53.000 was first germinated

01:27:54.540 or whatever, when

01:27:55.520 it was first started

01:27:56.580 to grow, it was

01:27:57.260 still the Roman

01:27:58.660 Republic.

01:27:59.440 It was still, Gaius

01:28:01.220 Gracchus hadn't even

01:28:01.960 been born.

01:28:03.140 Caesar hadn't been

01:28:03.940 born.

01:28:04.640 Yeah, nowhere near.

01:28:05.400 Caesar wouldn't be

01:28:06.180 born for another

01:28:06.700 hundred years.

01:28:08.080 It's mad, isn't it?

01:28:09.020 Just to mention

01:28:09.540 real quick, I've

01:28:10.380 been to Northern

01:28:11.160 California in the

01:28:11.980 giant redwoods.

01:28:13.360 I don't think I

01:28:14.240 didn't visit that

01:28:15.300 tree.

01:28:15.740 There's another one

01:28:16.240 where there's an

01:28:16.580 actual road through

01:28:17.380 it.

01:28:17.520 Have you seen that

01:28:17.900 one?

01:28:18.060 I've seen that

01:28:18.520 one, yeah.

01:28:18.900 Incredible,

01:28:19.280 incredible thing.

01:28:19.920 But I did see a

01:28:20.620 few giant redwoods

01:28:21.540 when I was there

01:28:22.160 in Northern

01:28:23.100 California and

01:28:23.680 they are remarkable

01:28:24.400 because we've got

01:28:24.920 nothing like it in

01:28:25.840 Britain or all of

01:28:26.360 Europe really.

01:28:27.460 Those giant sequoias,

01:28:28.700 giant redwoods.

01:28:29.400 You can see why

01:28:30.120 pre-Christian people

01:28:31.160 saw trees as

01:28:32.500 sacred, can't you?

01:28:33.460 Looking at giant

01:28:34.260 trees like that,

01:28:34.860 that sort of exaggerates

01:28:37.800 it to a point where

01:28:38.460 everyone can see it.

01:28:39.460 Swaby, literally

01:28:41.120 they thought,

01:28:41.900 this is an ancient

01:28:42.460 German tribe,

01:28:43.360 they thought there

01:28:44.260 was this particular

01:28:44.820 giant oak and they

01:28:47.900 thought that was sort

01:28:48.520 of the centre of the

01:28:49.160 world.

01:28:49.540 You know, in Islam and

01:28:52.340 Judaism, there's like a

01:28:53.480 certain place that they

01:28:54.380 think is sort of the

01:28:55.000 navel of the world,

01:28:56.200 which is in Jerusalem.

01:28:58.640 So for some of the

01:28:59.340 Germans, it was a tree.

01:29:00.980 I respect that.

01:29:01.340 An ancient oak.

01:29:02.560 Makes more sense than

01:29:03.620 a black stone in

01:29:04.940 Mecca, doesn't it?

01:29:06.000 I think we have an

01:29:07.040 olive tree that is

01:29:08.320 3.5 thousand years.

01:29:10.340 Wow.

01:29:11.020 Yeah, olive trees can

01:29:11.900 grow really old,

01:29:12.660 aren't they?

01:29:12.900 It's still alive.

01:29:13.600 Yeah, yeah.

01:29:14.660 Wow.

01:29:15.720 There's some like

01:29:16.200 Methuselah trees.

01:29:17.200 I think one of the

01:29:17.660 oldest things is a

01:29:19.400 tree.

01:29:20.340 It's again, thousands

01:29:21.180 of years old.

01:29:21.860 Remarkable.

01:29:25.020 I've lived in the

01:29:25.820 southwest for about

01:29:26.560 23 years.

01:29:27.600 I'm just laughing in a

01:29:28.460 good way.

01:29:29.280 Thinking about like

01:29:30.160 Glastonbury High

01:29:31.060 Street and the

01:29:31.660 Goddard's Festivals

01:29:32.640 and Neolithic

01:29:33.880 Altars and, you

01:29:36.280 know, they've got a

01:29:36.900 weird and interesting

01:29:37.700 kind of metaphysical

01:29:39.180 bookshop there and

01:29:40.920 just generally

01:29:41.860 countryside living in

01:29:43.900 England and I think

01:29:45.920 it's something that we

01:29:46.600 take for granted.

01:29:47.460 I mean, I love it.

01:29:48.220 I don't want to move.

01:29:49.080 I don't want to go

01:29:49.520 anywhere else.

01:29:50.740 I love countryside

01:29:51.440 living.

01:29:52.280 How weird, wacky and

01:29:53.380 wonderful it is.

01:29:55.880 Well, that's what I

01:29:57.000 grew up with and it's

01:29:57.680 what I want to return

01:29:58.940 to and I have my

01:29:59.880 escape plan from

01:30:00.680 Swindon and it will

01:30:01.800 happen soon.

01:30:04.100 It's going to turn

01:30:04.880 into a film, Escape

01:30:05.680 from Swindon.

01:30:06.780 Yeah, the countryside I

01:30:07.880 feel like is England at

01:30:09.120 its best and whenever

01:30:09.960 people come to Britain

01:30:11.140 for tourism, I say,

01:30:12.460 you know, you can go to

01:30:13.580 London, go to the

01:30:14.300 museums and the art

01:30:15.080 galleries, but if you

01:30:16.480 want to see the spirit of

01:30:17.440 England, go to the

01:30:18.140 countryside and you see

01:30:20.240 what it's all about

01:30:20.960 there.

01:30:21.180 you know, I grew up and

01:30:23.480 spent all my life more

01:30:24.840 or less nearly in the

01:30:26.580 southeast, the greater

01:30:27.840 London area, suburban

01:30:28.820 Essex and East London

01:30:30.800 and London and of course

01:30:32.520 Swindon is a bit of a

01:30:34.020 dive, but a bit, but rural

01:30:38.100 Wiltshire is lovely.

01:30:40.240 You go outside of

01:30:41.100 Swindon town, you go into

01:30:42.540 the countryside, like not

01:30:43.980 far, like two miles from

01:30:45.600 here, five miles from here

01:30:46.560 and it's some of the

01:30:48.260 most remarkable,

01:30:49.600 beautiful countryside in

01:30:51.520 the world, I think.

01:30:53.220 I agree.

01:30:53.500 Also the Cotswolds.

01:30:54.260 It's up there with the

01:30:54.940 Scottish Highlands or

01:30:55.840 Cumbria, the Lake

01:30:56.560 District, the Peak

01:30:57.140 District, rural Wiltshire

01:30:59.200 is absolutely lovely.

01:31:00.620 Dartmoor National Park is

01:31:01.540 my favourite place on

01:31:02.800 that.

01:31:03.400 Yeah, Cornwall, you get

01:31:05.460 subtropical climates in

01:31:06.960 Cornwall.

01:31:08.100 Anyway.

01:31:12.580 You're all utterly

01:31:14.220 incompetent.

01:31:16.560 You do not have a clue.

01:31:22.400 I could run things

01:31:24.380 better, even whilst I

01:31:28.440 poop.

01:31:34.440 So does that.

01:31:38.720 Who is that on the

01:31:39.660 wall there?

01:31:40.240 Is that who I think it

01:31:41.900 is on the wall of

01:31:42.620 Donald Trump's toilet?

01:31:43.580 Is it?

01:31:44.980 Stormy Daniels, is it?

01:31:46.560 I don't know.

01:31:47.720 I'd probably say some

01:31:48.240 blonde woman.

01:31:48.680 That would be funnier.

01:31:49.540 Some blonde woman.

01:31:50.900 I think it's Sydney

01:31:51.600 Sweeney.

01:31:52.260 I've got two good

01:31:53.740 reasons to believe it.

01:31:54.860 I don't think the

01:31:55.840 toilet roll would be the

01:31:57.720 one Trump would use.

01:31:58.800 Oh, here we go.

01:31:59.780 That's true, yeah.

01:32:00.920 American flag, a bit

01:32:02.060 disrespectful.

01:32:02.440 Oh, four.

01:32:14.660 I mean five.

01:32:15.800 I mean fire.

01:32:21.960 It's still surreal to me

01:32:23.100 that I went on a podcast

01:32:24.520 with Graham Linehan, the

01:32:25.660 creator of that show.

01:32:26.800 Got to pinch myself doing

01:32:29.320 this job sometimes.

01:32:31.900 Right, we've got a bunch

01:32:33.360 of rumble chats.

01:32:33.900 Are we okay to go on for

01:32:34.820 a little bit more,

01:32:35.300 Samson?

01:32:37.860 Okay, no worries.

01:32:39.960 So where's the mouse?

01:32:41.980 I can't see.

01:32:42.760 I'm going to go top to

01:32:43.440 bottom here.

01:32:44.620 Dragon Lady Chris says,

01:32:45.560 hang on there guys.

01:32:46.740 If we can survive for four

01:32:49.100 years of Biden, you can do

01:32:50.260 five years of Starmer.

01:32:51.300 I don't know.

01:32:54.620 Bold Eagle says, so

01:32:56.880 Canada and Greenland are

01:32:57.820 going to become the 51st

01:32:59.080 and 52nd states in the

01:33:00.320 US.

01:33:01.240 Do you want to make the

01:33:02.000 UK the 53rd?

01:33:03.680 We'd let you do your own

01:33:04.780 thing, but you can't

01:33:06.560 violate the Constitution.

01:33:07.980 I think the Constitution

01:33:08.660 would be the most

01:33:09.420 welcome part of it, to be

01:33:10.440 honest.

01:33:12.740 Bystander Syndrome says,

01:33:14.080 we get EU regulations by

01:33:15.680 default.

01:33:17.260 Then be your own nation,

01:33:19.300 assert your sovereignty.

01:33:20.100 If these companies, NGOs

01:33:21.420 want to F with you

01:33:22.540 indirectly, cut and

01:33:23.880 replace them with your

01:33:24.760 own product.

01:33:26.300 That's what we want to

01:33:27.260 do.

01:33:28.020 I mean, you've got it in

01:33:28.940 one pretty much.

01:33:29.640 Yeah, I entirely agree

01:33:31.080 with that.

01:33:33.140 Fleet Lord Atvar says,

01:33:35.120 if you've not heard

01:33:37.120 Lieutenant Colonel Tulsi

01:33:38.220 Gabbard opening statements

01:33:39.380 in her DNI confirmation

01:33:41.080 hearing, priceless.

01:33:42.320 Tell Carl he likely

01:33:43.500 appreciates it.

01:33:44.900 Ten minutes long, and

01:33:46.340 then he sends a link.

01:33:47.580 I'm sure we will cover

01:33:48.700 that.

01:33:48.900 Probably sometime soon.

01:33:51.400 I think Carl wanted,

01:33:53.300 yeah, we will.

01:33:53.960 We almost certainly will,

01:33:54.920 yeah.

01:33:56.260 And then Habsification

01:33:57.980 says, Boris screwed over

01:33:59.100 our fisheries and Starmer

01:34:00.060 is screwing our farmers

01:34:01.040 over.

01:34:02.620 Our politicians hate our

01:34:03.860 own native food production.

01:34:05.100 That is true.

01:34:05.960 They want to sell the land

01:34:06.680 to Blackrock, that's why.

01:34:08.160 And then the engaged few,

01:34:09.340 the final one, the German

01:34:10.440 leftists are trying to

01:34:11.240 silence AFD need to remember

01:34:12.500 something important.

01:34:13.420 When men run out of words,

01:34:14.640 they reach for, oh, we've

01:34:15.360 read that one.

01:34:15.820 But that's also just as

01:34:17.940 true as I read it the

01:34:18.640 first time.

01:34:19.780 Right.

01:34:20.160 I think a couple of

01:34:21.740 comments, there's some

01:34:22.640 general ones here, and

01:34:23.520 then we'll do one from

01:34:24.380 each segment.

01:34:25.240 Sorry we went on a bit

01:34:26.340 long, but we've overran

01:34:28.020 to compensate.

01:34:29.200 So, Ewan Baker says,

01:34:30.760 The Stelios is showing

01:34:31.820 us his Greek Austin

01:34:33.500 Powers look.

01:34:34.320 Oh, behave.

01:34:34.980 Basic Based Ape says,

01:34:38.380 I googled cyber farting

01:34:39.780 for you so you don't

01:34:40.540 have to, Josh.

01:34:41.240 It's true.

01:34:41.800 A woman was arrested for

01:34:42.820 sending disturbing videos

01:34:44.120 of her farting to her

01:34:45.700 boyfriend's ex, causing

01:34:47.960 alarm and distress.

01:34:49.200 We used to be a real

01:34:49.880 country.

01:34:51.120 I didn't realise this was

01:34:52.140 a way of harassing

01:34:53.140 people.

01:34:53.640 I've just discovered

01:34:54.580 something new.

01:34:56.340 Got my weekend plan

01:34:57.540 sorted.

01:34:58.640 So, my comment for my

01:35:00.520 segment.

01:35:01.180 A library of cyber

01:35:03.560 farts, ready to, for

01:35:05.320 it.

01:35:05.640 Here are my greatest

01:35:06.540 hits.

01:35:08.000 Omar Awad says,

01:35:09.400 The Lib, we're off

01:35:10.800 YouTube now, The Lib

01:35:12.080 Shit has no fury of

01:35:13.220 mind for the savage.

01:35:14.660 It is the suicidal

01:35:15.920 arrogance they assume

01:35:16.960 the foreigner won't

01:35:17.720 kill the gold-laying

01:35:18.900 goose to maximise

01:35:19.880 immediate benefit over

01:35:21.000 sustained gratification.

01:35:22.880 Very well put.

01:35:23.960 I very much agree.

01:35:25.460 Apache Sideburns, I'm

01:35:26.860 once again asking for

01:35:28.020 Onion of Deception

01:35:29.100 merch.

01:35:30.600 It's happening.

01:35:31.860 All right.

01:35:32.380 Is it really?

01:35:32.840 I think so.

01:35:33.640 Really?

01:35:35.520 I don't know.

01:35:36.840 But I've heard it.

01:35:37.720 I've heard that it is

01:35:38.740 happening.

01:35:39.800 Email Pete.

01:35:40.880 It's happening and

01:35:41.560 that's a good thing.

01:35:42.520 Yeah.

01:35:44.220 Alpha of the beaters,

01:35:45.700 banning AFD is

01:35:46.880 democratic like two

01:35:48.260 foxes and a chicken

01:35:49.360 voting on what's for

01:35:50.540 dinner.

01:35:51.100 That's true.

01:35:52.060 Final comment, Bo,

01:35:53.300 from your segment.

01:35:54.280 Would you go ahead?

01:35:55.280 Sure.

01:35:56.140 Lord Nerevar says,

01:35:57.780 Aside from the

01:35:58.320 lockdowns, perhaps the

01:35:59.080 most impressive scam the

01:36:00.120 Conservatives ever

01:36:00.860 pulled was Brexit.

01:36:02.000 We're not independent

01:36:03.260 from the EU any more

01:36:04.440 than Puerto Rico is

01:36:06.300 independent from the

01:36:07.100 US and the weather is

01:36:08.800 far shittier here.

01:36:10.420 That's true.

01:36:11.220 If you could deport me to

01:36:12.520 Puerto Rico, I would

01:36:13.900 much appreciate it.

01:36:15.200 There's only one that's

01:36:16.160 going to be the 51st

01:36:17.080 state of America.

01:36:17.940 It'll be Puerto Rico.

01:36:19.940 That's true, yeah.

01:36:20.780 Puerto Rico's 51, Mexico's

01:36:23.200 52, Greenland's 53, Canada's

01:36:26.460 54, we're 55.

01:36:27.940 I once referred to

01:36:28.800 Puerto Rico accidentally

01:36:30.300 as the 51st state on this

01:36:33.580 podcast and then loads of

01:36:35.580 people were correcting me

01:36:36.640 and then only a handful of

01:36:38.380 people said, actually,

01:36:39.340 that's kind of based.

01:36:40.160 Thank you very much.

01:36:42.140 And I did notice someone's

01:36:43.920 name, Josh Furn playing the

01:36:45.380 piano with his balls.

01:36:47.240 I'm not quite that

01:36:48.220 talented.

01:36:49.240 I can only play it just

01:36:50.420 about with my fingers.

01:36:51.760 But anyway, it's time to

01:36:53.080 end the show.

01:36:54.060 Join us in about 23

01:36:56.120 minutes for the three.

01:36:58.280 Yeah.

01:36:58.840 For the gold tier Zoom.

01:37:00.300 I believe it'll be us

01:37:01.520 three.

01:37:02.280 So if you want to ask us

01:37:03.280 questions or say what you

01:37:04.440 want to see Trump do, I'm

01:37:06.140 going to be writing those

01:37:06.900 down in notes to present

01:37:08.240 a segment.

01:37:09.160 And if you just have any

01:37:10.140 questions for us and

01:37:11.640 thank you very much for

01:37:12.500 watching.

01:37:12.980 Have a lovely weekend and

01:37:14.360 make sure to tune in same

01:37:15.560 time on Monday.

01:37:17.340 Thank you for watching and

01:37:18.400 goodbye.

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - January 31, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1091

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