The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - February 07, 2025


The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1096


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 30 minutes

Words per Minute

190.10959

Word Count

17,129

Sentence Count

343

Misogynist Sentences

17

Hate Speech Sentences

47


Summary

The Lotus Eaters are joined by Stelios and Rafe Manku to talk about the growing support for nuclear power in the polls, and whether or not Britain is ready to get nuclear power back on the agenda. Plus, the difference between governments that want to get rid of nuclear power and those that don't.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for Friday, the 7th of February, 2025.
00:00:06.020 It's Friday, so the best day of the week. I'm joined by Stelios and Rafe Manku.
00:00:10.960 Sorry, how do I pronounce your name?
00:00:12.460 Rafe Hadel Manku.
00:00:13.680 Rafe Hadel Manku. I'm really sorry. I'm terrible with names. I can barely speak English.
00:00:17.320 This is a microaggression number one.
00:00:22.240 Yes, it is.
00:00:24.740 Anyway, today we're going to be talking about how reform are looking inevitable
00:00:28.160 and the difference between governments that will do something and won't do something
00:00:31.360 and just want to manage the decline
00:00:33.300 and how finally Britain might actually start taking nuclear power seriously.
00:00:38.500 A drum I've been banging for quite some time.
00:00:40.680 But honestly, I'm just so frustrated by the radical activism that surrounds energy production
00:00:48.320 that it's just one of those things that finally we're going to get the Gordian knot cut.
00:00:52.860 Anyway, right, let's begin.
00:00:53.840 So, seven months ago I made a video saying,
00:00:57.320 look, Nigel Farage may well end up as Prime Minister of this country.
00:01:01.060 Whether you like him or loathe him, it looks like there is a lot of energy behind him
00:01:05.680 and he is playing a wise game, actually, in what he's doing,
00:01:11.160 again, whether you agree with him or not.
00:01:12.740 And this seems to be paying off.
00:01:15.080 And the more time passes, the more it looks like the prediction in this video...
00:01:20.760 I try not to make predictions, but I can't help it sometimes.
00:01:24.700 The prediction in this video is going to come to pass
00:01:26.840 because only a few weeks ago, the end of January,
00:01:31.860 Labour were barely in the lead in various polls in the UK.
00:01:38.340 And then reform started coming ahead.
00:01:42.360 And again, this is January the 30th.
00:01:44.980 Coming ahead in polls that are not polls done by right-wing friendly pollsters.
00:01:52.260 For example, Find Out Now, very milquetoast.
00:01:56.320 Stats for Lefties has posted a YouGov poll here.
00:01:59.480 YouGov being famously slanted in One Direction because it's an online poller.
00:02:03.780 It happens to get a lot of left-wing people signing up for it.
00:02:07.460 Again, self-selected online polls.
00:02:09.140 But even in that, reform are ahead of the Labour Party
00:02:13.380 and significantly ahead of the Conservative Party.
00:02:17.520 And so that must be great news for Nigel.
00:02:19.720 It must be bad news for the establishment.
00:02:21.660 And it keeps getting worse.
00:02:23.540 But let's pause on this for a minute.
00:02:25.300 So this, again, was about the beginning of this week, actually.
00:02:32.220 And so that's going to result in a hung parliament.
00:02:36.640 Yeah, I mean, let's be clear here, right?
00:02:40.680 Labour has a stonking majority of 440-odd seats.
00:02:44.920 They have two-thirds of the seats in parliament,
00:02:47.020 despite only having one-third of the vote share, 33% they've got.
00:02:51.340 In fact, since the Second World War,
00:02:53.500 no government has been elected with the majority of the votes.
00:02:56.680 You only need to have around a third under first-past-the-post.
00:02:59.740 So there is a clear path to power.
00:03:02.440 We're still in early days.
00:03:03.880 I mean, the amount by which support for reform has increased in just a few months,
00:03:08.460 they could easily find themselves well within,
00:03:11.000 well over 35% or so by the time we get to the next election.
00:03:15.420 And it should be a wake-up call.
00:03:16.860 I mean, look, the reality is, you know,
00:03:19.020 60% of this country still votes for left-wing parties.
00:03:22.060 The only reason we've had a number of Conservative governments
00:03:24.440 is because there's only been one party on the right.
00:03:26.280 The left-wing votes split between SNP, Lib Dem, Greens, Labour, Plaid Cymru and so forth.
00:03:31.420 And we always thought we couldn't have two parties on the right
00:03:34.820 because you would never have a Conservative government
00:03:37.160 or a right-leaning government again.
00:03:39.280 Reform has shown that you can do that
00:03:40.840 because reform is actually taking votes not just from the Tories,
00:03:44.240 it's taking them from Labour.
00:03:46.060 And fundamentally important here,
00:03:48.320 three million people who didn't vote at all in 2024 have come over.
00:03:52.780 It also puts a lie to those wet Tories who said,
00:03:56.480 oh, no, no, during the Prime Ministerial campaign,
00:03:58.720 oh, we need to, you know, we forget about reform,
00:04:00.500 we need to lean more to the Lib Dems and get those votes.
00:04:02.720 Well, we know only 180,000 people who left the Tory party
00:04:07.920 went over to the Lib Dems.
00:04:09.360 1.2 million went to reform.
00:04:12.240 It is actually reform that's now setting the agenda.
00:04:15.220 That's why you're seeing now,
00:04:17.200 Kimi Badenoch finally setting her sights
00:04:19.400 and giving us at least one policy on immigration.
00:04:21.380 Milquetoast, though it still is,
00:04:23.800 to try and counter reform.
00:04:27.580 You know, Rupert Lowe I spoke with in November,
00:04:29.680 well, October last year,
00:04:30.680 and he said very confidently,
00:04:31.880 we're going to form the next government.
00:04:33.420 I thought that was hugely optimistic,
00:04:35.120 although not impossible,
00:04:36.400 but I think he was obviously seeing stuff
00:04:38.660 that I wasn't privy to at the time.
00:04:41.380 Sorry, go on, sir.
00:04:42.100 Oh, I just wanted to say that a lot of Labour defenders and advocates,
00:04:47.420 they forget that the Labour vote was a vote of,
00:04:50.700 let's say, dissatisfaction with the Tories.
00:04:54.040 It wasn't a vote for love for Starmer's agenda.
00:04:57.760 Well, you know, I'm not even persuaded by that, to be honest.
00:05:01.500 That is the sort of common narrative,
00:05:03.020 but I don't think that Conservative voters tend to go over to Labour.
00:05:07.600 And we can see this through the paucity of votes
00:05:11.500 that Labour got in the last election.
00:05:12.980 I mean, out of all of the voters who could have voted,
00:05:15.560 Labour got a fifth of them.
00:05:17.880 What happens with right-wing voters
00:05:20.500 is they don't vote for Labour as a protest.
00:05:22.580 They just don't vote at all.
00:05:24.640 And so we, in the last election,
00:05:26.300 we saw that 40% of the entire potential voter base
00:05:28.840 just didn't vote,
00:05:30.060 presumably out of massive dissatisfaction.
00:05:33.000 And so Nigel Farage had come in
00:05:35.620 and cut the legs out from underneath the Conservative Party,
00:05:38.900 which, under first-past-the-post,
00:05:40.540 puts Labour, with their third of the vote share
00:05:42.620 in each constituency, over the top,
00:05:45.700 giving them this huge majority,
00:05:47.020 and then underneath the simmering fight
00:05:49.060 between Conservatives and reform.
00:05:51.560 And the Conservatives are very clearly losing that.
00:05:54.280 And to be honest with you, I'm quite glad.
00:05:55.580 The Conservatives have presided over
00:05:57.780 possibly the biggest betrayal of the British electorate
00:06:00.680 that's ever happened.
00:06:02.500 Hard to think of anyone who'd done more damage
00:06:05.340 to the country than Boris Johnson, actually.
00:06:07.460 And that's something to say,
00:06:08.460 given what Tony Blair ushered into this country.
00:06:10.820 And of course, whenever, you know,
00:06:11.820 for years when we discussed the plight of mass immigration,
00:06:14.700 we always cited Tony Blair
00:06:16.360 as being the most dangerous Prime Minister we've ever had.
00:06:19.440 Well, I'm sorry, what he did pales in comparison
00:06:21.700 to what a Conservative government did
00:06:23.860 in terms of immigration.
00:06:25.680 Not just the numbers, but also the sources
00:06:27.620 of the immigrants who were coming here.
00:06:29.540 And there can be no greater crime, I would think,
00:06:31.760 than actually, you know, in my view,
00:06:34.560 signing the death warrant of this nation.
00:06:36.900 It's really hard to contest that.
00:06:39.060 Which suggests several commonalities
00:06:40.800 in the practice agenda.
00:06:42.900 Well, I have a bit of a difference there.
00:06:45.000 We know why Labour wanted mass immigration,
00:06:47.360 in large part because 80% of ethnic minorities
00:06:50.000 vote for the Labour Party.
00:06:51.280 So the thinking there was,
00:06:52.660 if we import millions of people,
00:06:54.100 remember Peter Mandelson sent out search parties
00:06:56.040 looking for immigrants.
00:06:57.280 The idea was, in the decades to come,
00:06:59.200 you would have a new demographic
00:07:00.320 that would ensure that the Labour Party
00:07:02.020 had majorities in all the elections.
00:07:03.920 And if you look at London,
00:07:05.160 you look at Birmingham and these places,
00:07:06.660 these are essentially becoming one-party states, right?
00:07:09.060 With the Tories, it was rather different
00:07:10.720 because the Tories were beholden to big business
00:07:13.220 and the CBI and so forth.
00:07:14.840 And big business, rather than invest
00:07:16.940 in expensive capital infrastructure,
00:07:19.420 you know, job automation, mechanisation,
00:07:22.420 machines that can pick apples and orchards
00:07:23.960 and so forth, they decided to flood the nation
00:07:25.980 with cheap labour, which would suppress wages
00:07:28.380 and negate the need for that costly investment,
00:07:31.320 which is why we're in the mess we're in now.
00:07:33.540 That's why I sort of think Japan,
00:07:34.920 everyone said, well, you know, Japan,
00:07:36.680 the oldest population in the world,
00:07:39.140 it needs immigration.
00:07:40.260 I think they may come out of this
00:07:41.520 as actually being the sanest people of all
00:07:43.400 because AI, robotics and healthcare,
00:07:46.020 social work and so forth,
00:07:47.380 may actually come in the end of the day
00:07:48.760 to save Japan.
00:07:50.460 That should have been the model we went down.
00:07:52.700 Oh, absolutely.
00:07:53.720 So just on this map,
00:07:55.140 I think this is fascinating.
00:07:56.700 I mean, if you look at the north of England,
00:07:58.160 which is normally just completely red,
00:08:01.260 not only is it not red at all,
00:08:04.220 but it's also giving over to the Conservatives
00:08:06.560 by this prediction,
00:08:07.460 which I think is fascinating.
00:08:09.960 So the Labour vote has collapsed so utterly,
00:08:12.180 it's now a scramble for the north,
00:08:13.740 for the Reform Party and the Conservative Party,
00:08:17.100 which are, of course,
00:08:18.040 not parties you would normally have associated with them.
00:08:20.800 And I think it's very optimistic
00:08:23.840 to think that the Conservatives
00:08:25.160 would be able to win that as well
00:08:26.300 because there's,
00:08:27.640 I think there's something about Nigel Farage
00:08:31.780 that is a kind of totemic Englishman.
00:08:33.940 He is, in many ways,
00:08:36.140 appealing on those grounds.
00:08:38.380 And he's got an unpretentious image,
00:08:46.240 I think,
00:08:46.820 when he's in the pub
00:08:47.800 and associating with people,
00:08:49.460 that is something that really does
00:08:51.540 actually swing people.
00:08:52.820 And I think a lot of people's love of Donald Trump
00:08:55.000 is,
00:08:55.320 oh, he's a lot like me.
00:08:56.640 Whether you like it or not,
00:08:57.780 representation actually does matter.
00:08:59.740 And I think that perhaps choosing
00:09:01.700 Kemi Badenok
00:09:02.480 as the leader of the Conservative Party
00:09:04.620 isn't going to swing those guys over,
00:09:06.380 not because they hate black people
00:09:08.160 or something like that,
00:09:09.320 but just because they don't see themselves in her.
00:09:12.160 Farage has good energy
00:09:13.300 and you need good energy to win elections,
00:09:15.640 Badenok just doesn't have it.
00:09:17.440 Yeah.
00:09:18.080 I think that's quite,
00:09:18.980 it's a good point you make then.
00:09:20.020 And I think that is their sort of strategy here
00:09:22.180 because, you know,
00:09:23.220 people, your viewers at home,
00:09:24.940 my view is the new cultural forum,
00:09:26.300 we all want reform and Farage
00:09:28.060 to be much stronger
00:09:29.460 on things like immigration.
00:09:31.060 And we're hugely disappointed
00:09:32.200 that he's not.
00:09:33.240 I often cite the statistic that,
00:09:34.980 you know,
00:09:35.160 men under 44 in this country
00:09:36.700 are more likely to vote for Trump
00:09:37.880 than for Farage.
00:09:39.220 But obviously,
00:09:40.220 what they're doing is winning.
00:09:41.920 And you have to remember
00:09:42.800 that we actually,
00:09:44.020 those people,
00:09:44.520 people who hold our views,
00:09:45.540 unfortunately,
00:09:46.000 we're still in the minority.
00:09:46.900 And Farage is speaking
00:09:48.820 to the great population as a whole.
00:09:51.680 And I almost think
00:09:52.560 it's like a good cop,
00:09:53.480 bad cop or a tag team duo
00:09:55.300 between him and Rupert Lowe.
00:09:56.780 Rupert Lowe doesn't have
00:09:57.560 national recognition.
00:09:58.440 People don't really know him
00:09:59.200 in the country,
00:10:00.000 but our people know him.
00:10:01.600 He is speaking our language.
00:10:02.860 So we feel someone's fighting
00:10:04.500 our corner in reform
00:10:05.580 and Nigel speaking to the rest
00:10:07.240 of the nation who think,
00:10:08.460 oh, actually,
00:10:08.780 reform's not that bad.
00:10:09.860 And I think that might be
00:10:10.620 the reasoning there.
00:10:12.040 It's actually a winning strategy
00:10:14.060 and it's clearly working.
00:10:15.840 One thing I'm approval,
00:10:17.500 one thing I really approve of
00:10:18.660 is how this is causing chaos
00:10:21.260 in both Labour
00:10:21.980 and the Conservatives.
00:10:23.200 So it was reported recently
00:10:24.960 that CCHQ staff
00:10:26.740 are holding a crisis meeting
00:10:28.040 today of the lack of funding
00:10:29.340 of the current polling situation.
00:10:31.340 And so they don't really
00:10:32.280 know what to do.
00:10:33.700 And Kemi Badenok
00:10:34.760 didn't exactly show
00:10:36.340 a great deal of leadership
00:10:37.520 on this
00:10:38.320 because she just told them
00:10:39.640 to quit if they can't deliver
00:10:40.980 on fundraising or campaigning.
00:10:43.260 One campaign manager
00:10:44.280 apparently said,
00:10:45.000 how can we campaign
00:10:45.680 when we've got no policies
00:10:46.580 to campaign on?
00:10:47.540 Which presumably is the source
00:10:49.360 of the very milquetoast,
00:10:51.300 if they've been here for 10 years
00:10:52.900 rather than five years,
00:10:53.820 we'll give them visas.
00:10:54.880 It's like,
00:10:55.280 why are we giving any,
00:10:56.440 why are they here?
00:10:57.600 Why are they here?
00:10:58.260 They can go home.
00:10:59.140 They've got homes of their own.
00:11:00.280 That's where they belong.
00:11:01.480 And the irony is,
00:11:02.180 if they want a raft of policies,
00:11:03.400 they just have to look
00:11:04.080 at Robert Jenrick's Twitter feed
00:11:05.320 to find all the policies
00:11:07.000 that actually would actually
00:11:08.520 have increased
00:11:09.140 their polling numbers
00:11:11.720 very clearly.
00:11:13.060 And of course,
00:11:13.360 as we on the right
00:11:14.000 were hoping for,
00:11:15.720 the reform and the Tories
00:11:17.640 would try to outflank each other
00:11:19.080 and Jenrick could have pulled
00:11:20.820 Farage actually more to the right,
00:11:22.580 which is a great deal.
00:11:23.740 But I'm sure the Tories
00:11:24.460 are feeling bias remorse.
00:11:25.740 I'm just amazed
00:11:26.380 that there's still anybody
00:11:27.120 in the north of England
00:11:27.780 who would vote for the Tory party,
00:11:29.500 having been betrayed,
00:11:30.460 not only on immigration,
00:11:31.300 but on levelling up
00:11:32.140 and everything else.
00:11:33.420 I mean,
00:11:33.600 you know,
00:11:33.880 the definition of insanity
00:11:35.020 is to keep voting
00:11:35.740 for the same...
00:11:36.580 Conservatives are creatures
00:11:37.760 of habit.
00:11:39.180 That is very...
00:11:40.140 That's a sad truth.
00:11:40.760 Definitely true, yeah.
00:11:42.280 But yeah,
00:11:43.120 no,
00:11:43.340 that's a great point
00:11:44.180 because there are so many things
00:11:45.460 on which the Conservatives
00:11:46.540 have just betrayed everyone.
00:11:48.700 And I don't want to give them
00:11:50.800 the benefit of the doubt,
00:11:51.500 but it really just seems
00:11:52.180 like weakness to me.
00:11:53.680 I'm sure that most
00:11:54.840 of the Conservative Party members
00:11:56.720 and most of their MPs
00:11:58.640 in the sort of generic mould
00:12:00.060 aren't people who hate
00:12:01.720 the United Kingdom
00:12:02.380 and want the worst for it.
00:12:03.760 I just can't help but notice
00:12:05.580 they don't seem to have any balls.
00:12:07.540 They can't stand up for anything.
00:12:09.540 And when they do,
00:12:10.220 they get kind of defence...
00:12:11.080 Well,
00:12:11.240 not defence rate,
00:12:11.840 but selected against
00:12:13.180 in the way that Jemreq was.
00:12:14.840 Well,
00:12:15.040 and just remember
00:12:15.580 that the average Tory MP
00:12:17.220 is to the left
00:12:18.340 of the average British person
00:12:20.220 on immigration.
00:12:21.800 That says it all.
00:12:22.820 Also,
00:12:23.240 of course,
00:12:23.520 remember,
00:12:24.260 the Tory party
00:12:24.800 isn't a Conservative party.
00:12:26.040 It's a neoliberal party
00:12:27.420 full of free market extremists
00:12:29.980 who don't believe
00:12:30.500 in borders either,
00:12:31.420 who are globalists.
00:12:33.060 You know,
00:12:33.200 the clue...
00:12:33.820 Conservatism,
00:12:34.840 the clue is in the name.
00:12:35.980 It's about conserving society.
00:12:37.540 Every strata of society,
00:12:38.720 every class...
00:12:39.240 Yeah,
00:12:39.360 the class called Conservatism.
00:12:39.940 ...needs to be protected,
00:12:40.680 you know.
00:12:41.080 That's not true conservatism
00:12:42.480 in Birkian ways.
00:12:43.340 It's not Scrutonian conservatism.
00:12:45.100 And the party should be renamed,
00:12:46.500 actually.
00:12:46.620 Well,
00:12:46.760 it should die,
00:12:47.340 perhaps,
00:12:48.000 whilst it's being renamed.
00:12:49.920 Well,
00:12:50.240 speaking of it dying,
00:12:51.980 they clearly feel
00:12:53.720 the winds of change coming.
00:12:55.500 Because Jacob Rees-Mogg
00:12:56.440 has recently said,
00:12:58.100 look,
00:12:58.960 reform and the Conservatives
00:13:00.040 need an alliance.
00:13:01.000 Now,
00:13:02.140 I'm not a member
00:13:03.140 of either party,
00:13:04.620 and I would be happy
00:13:05.820 to support either party
00:13:07.060 if they were doing
00:13:07.580 what I wanted them to do.
00:13:09.420 So actually,
00:13:10.060 on this,
00:13:10.400 I'm kind of neutral.
00:13:11.660 I really don't mind,
00:13:12.940 you know,
00:13:13.260 which one gets the job done
00:13:15.720 as long as the job is done.
00:13:17.120 And as a kind of
00:13:18.580 dispassionate observer,
00:13:19.840 I can't help but notice
00:13:20.680 this is a profound statement
00:13:22.020 of weakness
00:13:22.680 from a party
00:13:23.840 that feels like
00:13:24.640 it's probably mortally wounded.
00:13:27.460 Farage is eating you alive.
00:13:29.260 Why would he want an alliance?
00:13:31.500 Yeah,
00:13:31.720 for the world's oldest
00:13:32.840 and most successful
00:13:33.600 political party
00:13:34.480 to now be calling
00:13:35.660 for an alliance
00:13:36.400 shows you their weakness
00:13:37.280 because they were
00:13:37.900 so arrogant before.
00:13:39.120 They would never think
00:13:39.920 about any of that.
00:13:40.940 They even refused
00:13:41.580 to stand down seats
00:13:42.560 in the 2019 election.
00:13:44.280 And Farage did.
00:13:45.100 Yeah,
00:13:45.760 for Farage.
00:13:47.680 And,
00:13:48.080 you know,
00:13:48.880 quite simply,
00:13:49.780 if you look at
00:13:50.580 the state of the Tory party,
00:13:53.240 Canada offers
00:13:54.200 the example there.
00:13:55.280 The Reform Party
00:13:55.920 doesn't need an alliance.
00:13:56.820 It needs to do
00:13:57.420 a hostile takeover
00:13:58.540 of the Tory party.
00:14:00.220 Back in 1993,
00:14:01.520 the Conservative government
00:14:02.460 and the Progressive
00:14:03.520 Conservative Party
00:14:04.360 of Canada,
00:14:04.880 there's an oxymoron
00:14:05.640 for a name,
00:14:06.460 the Progressive government
00:14:07.000 went down from being
00:14:07.700 the ruling government
00:14:08.980 to having only two seats
00:14:10.060 in Parliament.
00:14:11.040 And the Reform Party
00:14:12.020 of Canada,
00:14:13.140 which was basically
00:14:13.780 a Western party of Canada
00:14:15.060 of the Prairies
00:14:15.620 and so forth,
00:14:16.700 they became the biggest
00:14:17.680 right-wing party
00:14:18.460 and essentially
00:14:19.220 they took over
00:14:20.040 the fledgling PCs
00:14:22.040 and they created
00:14:22.980 a new Conservative Party
00:14:24.020 which you see today
00:14:24.760 which is much more
00:14:25.740 right-wing than the old PCs
00:14:26.880 led by Pierre Piolliver.
00:14:28.520 That's what needs
00:14:29.280 to happen in this shape.
00:14:30.500 No alliance,
00:14:31.460 hostile takeover.
00:14:33.060 Maybe it was just me
00:14:34.360 but it seems to me
00:14:35.180 that the Tories
00:14:35.840 had zero arguments
00:14:36.680 in the previous elections
00:14:37.720 and the only argument
00:14:39.080 they had was
00:14:39.840 a vote for reform
00:14:41.220 is a vote
00:14:41.780 that is splitting the right
00:14:42.900 and on this rationale
00:14:45.080 right now
00:14:45.800 a vote for Conservative
00:14:47.040 for Tories
00:14:48.640 is splitting the right.
00:14:49.600 Well, that's assuming
00:14:52.080 the Conservatives
00:14:52.780 have any
00:14:53.320 left in the right
00:14:54.920 No, I'm just saying
00:14:55.680 that they are losing
00:14:56.480 on the ground
00:14:58.000 of their own rhetoric.
00:14:59.460 You're being absolutely correct.
00:15:01.700 And so yeah,
00:15:02.460 I mean,
00:15:02.920 Zia Youssef
00:15:03.760 noticed this
00:15:05.580 and obviously replied
00:15:06.720 well,
00:15:07.460 why would we need that?
00:15:08.840 We're going to win
00:15:09.860 a decisive victory
00:15:10.820 and to be honest with you
00:15:11.860 I think they're on track
00:15:13.380 to do so.
00:15:14.620 It looks more and more
00:15:16.120 like, in fact,
00:15:17.400 reform are going to be
00:15:19.760 the next party of government
00:15:21.020 and all we're going
00:15:22.200 to have to do
00:15:22.640 is just wait out
00:15:23.540 this zombie Labour government
00:15:25.100 until they finally collapse.
00:15:26.920 I mean,
00:15:27.220 just as a quick point
00:15:28.180 on that, Rafe,
00:15:29.040 how long do you think
00:15:30.120 Starmer can possibly last for?
00:15:32.120 Well, it's a good question.
00:15:33.140 I've been asked before.
00:15:34.160 It's impossible to predict
00:15:35.200 any of these sorts of things.
00:15:37.120 Who's going to succeed him
00:15:38.440 with the Dawn Angela Ring?
00:15:40.040 I mean,
00:15:40.700 who's going to improve
00:15:41.720 the lot and chances,
00:15:43.200 Clive Lewis?
00:15:43.940 It's difficult to think
00:15:45.000 of who's going to be there
00:15:46.400 but, you know,
00:15:47.400 the media establishment
00:15:48.480 are also sort of,
00:15:49.500 you know,
00:15:49.880 protecting him so much
00:15:51.280 from all of these sorts
00:15:52.440 of secret stories
00:15:53.940 and scandals
00:15:54.600 that are existing.
00:15:56.100 I don't know,
00:15:56.800 it's impossible to say
00:15:57.520 but in any event,
00:15:59.900 I did say
00:16:01.160 when he first got to power
00:16:02.360 that it would be impossible
00:16:03.400 to see how this majority
00:16:04.920 could go away
00:16:05.800 in five years
00:16:06.560 but, of course,
00:16:07.760 reform is nipping
00:16:08.560 at the heels
00:16:09.180 and so many,
00:16:09.900 and we've just seen this
00:16:10.760 and I think, you know,
00:16:11.700 whether it's,
00:16:13.340 whoever's leading it,
00:16:14.880 we just have to look forward
00:16:15.700 to the four years' time.
00:16:17.400 Yeah, so I mean,
00:16:18.180 for anyone who's not British
00:16:19.360 and doesn't know
00:16:19.880 how the system works,
00:16:20.520 basically,
00:16:21.260 there's no legal mechanism
00:16:22.320 for us to be able
00:16:22.840 to get rid of Starmer
00:16:23.880 any earlier than
00:16:25.040 he wants to go.
00:16:26.540 It would have to come
00:16:27.420 from within the Labour Party
00:16:28.360 themselves
00:16:28.760 and they're not really
00:16:29.660 inclined to give up power
00:16:30.920 once they seize it
00:16:31.840 because Labour often
00:16:33.040 spends decades
00:16:33.860 out of power
00:16:34.580 and so,
00:16:35.660 to enact their,
00:16:36.400 what is essentially
00:16:36.940 a communist agenda,
00:16:38.020 they need to cling on to it
00:16:39.700 for as long as they can.
00:16:41.100 But there does have to come
00:16:42.260 a time where literally,
00:16:43.740 you know,
00:16:43.940 everyone's like,
00:16:44.760 here,
00:16:44.940 you're destroying the party.
00:16:46.380 You have to go.
00:16:47.520 The Tories are notorious
00:16:48.620 for actually,
00:16:49.500 you know,
00:16:49.880 defenestrating their leaders
00:16:51.280 when they're not winners
00:16:52.040 but Labour Party,
00:16:53.040 for some reason,
00:16:53.920 holds on to them.
00:16:55.340 But there has to come
00:16:56.520 a time where,
00:16:57.640 okay,
00:16:57.900 Kier,
00:16:58.280 you are in charge
00:16:59.080 and no one can make you leave
00:17:00.240 but everyone around you
00:17:01.380 is saying,
00:17:01.660 look,
00:17:01.700 I mean,
00:17:01.980 if Labour gets to sort of,
00:17:03.380 you know,
00:17:03.960 19,
00:17:04.740 18% of the polls,
00:17:05.980 surely they're going to
00:17:06.480 look,
00:17:06.680 Kier,
00:17:06.780 you're going to destroy
00:17:07.440 our party.
00:17:08.560 You just have to go
00:17:09.800 and there will come a point
00:17:11.560 where the pressure will mount
00:17:12.960 and even someone as disensouled
00:17:16.500 as Kier Starmer
00:17:17.380 will have to understand
00:17:18.340 that it's time.
00:17:20.540 So I would be surprised
00:17:21.700 if Kier Starmer actually
00:17:22.400 does last out the full five years.
00:17:24.120 But of course,
00:17:24.360 one of the other things
00:17:24.840 we should point out
00:17:25.440 about Labour,
00:17:26.040 of course,
00:17:26.300 is that their decline
00:17:27.480 hasn't just gone to reform,
00:17:28.680 of course,
00:17:29.020 it's also a fact
00:17:29.960 that many people on the left
00:17:31.080 feel,
00:17:32.040 you know,
00:17:32.160 people like the Owen Joneses
00:17:33.240 of this world
00:17:33.840 feel that the Labour Party
00:17:34.820 isn't left-wing enough,
00:17:36.000 you know,
00:17:36.180 as if Stalin wasn't very left-wing.
00:17:38.800 And also,
00:17:39.880 the Muslim vote,
00:17:40.560 of course,
00:17:40.880 has departed and left,
00:17:42.020 you know,
00:17:42.340 because of the,
00:17:43.060 you saw,
00:17:43.860 just as big as the Reform Party
00:17:45.460 results in the last election
00:17:46.980 was the election
00:17:47.620 of five Muslim vote MPs.
00:17:49.100 And of course,
00:17:49.780 you know,
00:17:50.380 Labour's prediction
00:17:51.040 that 80% of ethnic minorities
00:17:52.380 will vote for Labour
00:17:53.140 didn't take that into account.
00:17:54.760 So they've invited in
00:17:55.620 the very forces
00:17:56.260 that are undermining it.
00:17:57.480 Yes,
00:17:57.720 they fail to understand
00:17:58.480 that actually,
00:17:59.060 if you allow them
00:17:59.520 to concentrate in certain areas,
00:18:01.180 then they can just vote
00:18:01.900 for themselves.
00:18:03.300 And honestly,
00:18:03.980 at the next election,
00:18:04.580 we'll probably see
00:18:05.020 a Muslim party of Britain
00:18:06.060 that wins seats.
00:18:07.460 By the way,
00:18:08.280 thanks Labour,
00:18:08.920 thanks Tony Blair,
00:18:09.500 thanks Boris.
00:18:10.580 Much appreciated
00:18:11.380 for all of that.
00:18:12.120 Anyway,
00:18:12.520 but good for Reform,
00:18:13.640 and good for Rupert Lowe here
00:18:14.500 pointing out,
00:18:15.220 this is historic,
00:18:16.040 and he's absolutely right,
00:18:17.080 but that is a really
00:18:18.120 sizable lead.
00:18:19.440 A four-point lead in this,
00:18:20.860 again,
00:18:21.260 find out now poll.
00:18:21.980 Again,
00:18:22.620 it's not like
00:18:23.320 a right-wing pollster.
00:18:25.560 It's not Matthew Goodwin
00:18:26.740 who's done a poll
00:18:27.640 and found Reform
00:18:28.360 in the lead or anything.
00:18:29.080 No,
00:18:29.320 these are people
00:18:30.280 who obviously
00:18:30.740 don't have any sympathy.
00:18:31.720 And so when you
00:18:32.300 start mapping it out,
00:18:34.340 my God.
00:18:35.780 And it's many different polls.
00:18:37.160 It's not just one.
00:18:38.640 Well,
00:18:39.100 I think this is just
00:18:40.020 from the Find Out Now poll.
00:18:42.960 Yeah,
00:18:43.360 it's just one poll.
00:18:44.440 But still,
00:18:45.140 it's representative
00:18:46.320 of a trend
00:18:47.120 where Reform
00:18:48.180 have been in the lead
00:18:49.220 now consistently
00:18:49.820 for a week
00:18:50.620 in these polls.
00:18:52.080 And so what you can see
00:18:53.280 for anyone,
00:18:53.940 what we can see
00:18:54.460 for anyone listening
00:18:55.020 is a complete collapse
00:18:56.860 of the Conservatives,
00:18:57.680 basically.
00:18:58.580 The Labour Party
00:18:59.460 has clawed back
00:19:01.840 potentially a few
00:19:03.280 districts in the north,
00:19:05.560 but England,
00:19:06.540 basically,
00:19:07.040 England is going to Farage.
00:19:08.180 And it reinforces
00:19:09.360 how divided
00:19:10.020 our kingdom is
00:19:10.860 because you just have to
00:19:11.700 look at Scotland
00:19:12.380 to see that
00:19:13.120 all the disillusionment
00:19:14.400 with Labour
00:19:15.160 has made people
00:19:16.400 go back
00:19:16.960 to that awful
00:19:18.280 corrupt organisation,
00:19:19.420 the SNP.
00:19:20.520 You've got to be
00:19:20.920 very desperate
00:19:21.540 to actually think
00:19:22.440 of the SNP
00:19:23.160 as being a better
00:19:24.240 vote than Labour.
00:19:25.460 So again,
00:19:26.140 you know,
00:19:26.560 the Tories and Reform
00:19:27.880 unable to make
00:19:28.680 inroads in Scotland.
00:19:30.420 Yeah,
00:19:30.660 they've never had
00:19:31.240 any good messaging
00:19:31.860 on that.
00:19:33.180 But one thing
00:19:34.000 that I find frustrating
00:19:35.800 is the South West,
00:19:38.000 actually,
00:19:38.800 going so heavily
00:19:39.960 for the Lib Dems.
00:19:40.760 Now,
00:19:40.980 I mean,
00:19:41.220 we were as Brexit-y
00:19:42.240 as anywhere.
00:19:43.320 We voted for Brexit
00:19:44.540 almost all
00:19:45.380 of the South West
00:19:46.060 of England,
00:19:46.500 almost all Wessex
00:19:47.460 wanted Brexit
00:19:48.580 and yet for some reason
00:19:49.620 we were controlled
00:19:50.980 by Remainers.
00:19:52.040 And I think
00:19:52.720 this is generally
00:19:53.400 because of a lack
00:19:54.740 of proper campaigning
00:19:56.300 on the subject.
00:19:57.460 Because, I mean,
00:19:58.160 obviously everyone
00:19:59.000 and their mother
00:19:59.660 knows that Brexit
00:20:00.620 just has not been
00:20:01.660 implemented.
00:20:02.400 Nothing has been done
00:20:03.140 because of a lack
00:20:04.480 of competitive attitude.
00:20:07.920 And this has been
00:20:08.400 the major problem.
00:20:09.220 For example,
00:20:09.640 in this country,
00:20:10.340 corporation tax
00:20:11.100 didn't go up
00:20:11.740 recently actually,
00:20:12.460 but it's at least
00:20:13.020 25%.
00:20:14.060 Whereas in Ireland,
00:20:15.680 another English-speaking
00:20:16.800 European country,
00:20:18.060 it's 12.5%.
00:20:19.320 So we are being
00:20:20.720 directly undercut
00:20:21.900 by half
00:20:22.700 and that's why
00:20:23.540 if you are
00:20:24.440 a social media user,
00:20:26.240 all the Silicon
00:20:27.000 Tech Valley giants
00:20:28.080 have their headquarters
00:20:28.940 there and not London
00:20:30.160 or somewhere in England
00:20:31.360 because they pay
00:20:32.500 half the tax.
00:20:33.240 And so whenever
00:20:33.760 anyone from Twitter
00:20:35.260 or YouTube
00:20:35.740 or wherever gets
00:20:36.580 any money off
00:20:37.240 Silicon Valley,
00:20:37.940 you'll notice that
00:20:38.720 it comes from
00:20:39.160 Google Ireland,
00:20:40.120 X Ireland,
00:20:41.320 Facebook Ireland.
00:20:42.360 And so this is
00:20:43.980 the entire,
00:20:45.060 this is,
00:20:45.780 I mean,
00:20:46.040 just one aspect
00:20:47.000 of our complete failure
00:20:48.340 to try and be competitive.
00:20:50.380 We're not looking
00:20:51.300 at the European continent
00:20:52.640 as something we have
00:20:53.360 to defeat,
00:20:54.020 which is very frustrating.
00:20:55.540 And I think that
00:20:56.540 this kind of messaging
00:20:57.540 might actually work
00:20:58.620 quite well with
00:20:59.680 voters in the Southwest
00:21:01.160 because the Southwest
00:21:01.940 is fairly opulent,
00:21:04.300 actually,
00:21:04.760 as England goes.
00:21:06.200 It's not the North.
00:21:07.500 It's not London,
00:21:08.280 but it's,
00:21:09.260 you know,
00:21:10.480 fairly well to do.
00:21:11.900 But we are patriotic people
00:21:13.460 and what we would like
00:21:14.480 to see is business
00:21:15.340 competition.
00:21:16.160 We would like to make
00:21:16.980 it easier to do that.
00:21:18.040 But you see,
00:21:18.500 Southwest England
00:21:19.380 mirrors Southwest London
00:21:21.040 because they are the
00:21:22.120 most homogenous parts
00:21:23.440 of the nation
00:21:24.020 along with Scotland.
00:21:25.600 And so therefore,
00:21:26.660 you know,
00:21:26.860 these areas are the most
00:21:28.020 pro-immigration
00:21:28.760 because they don't
00:21:29.520 experience it.
00:21:30.240 They're not at the
00:21:30.680 coalface
00:21:31.240 and the areas that are blue
00:21:32.960 are at the coalface.
00:21:35.260 And I think it's the failure
00:21:36.640 to actually understand
00:21:37.740 the full crisis
00:21:39.580 of immigration
00:21:40.280 that explains
00:21:41.060 why reform hasn't
00:21:42.340 taken quite the hold there,
00:21:43.760 along with the fact
00:21:44.420 that the Lib Dems
00:21:45.320 have the best ground network
00:21:47.280 of any political party.
00:21:48.620 So when it comes
00:21:49.040 to campaigning,
00:21:49.980 they're able to get
00:21:50.800 their vote out.
00:21:51.900 That's what reform
00:21:52.600 is doing right now.
00:21:53.460 They're actually copying
00:21:54.280 the Lib Dems,
00:21:54.980 trying to replicate
00:21:56.140 their groundwork.
00:21:57.240 So maybe over the next
00:21:58.660 two, three, four years,
00:21:59.740 you will see reform
00:22:00.520 making inroads there too.
00:22:01.980 But again,
00:22:02.400 I think immigration
00:22:03.140 will be the deciding factor.
00:22:04.820 That's why,
00:22:05.200 you know,
00:22:05.320 some people will say,
00:22:05.960 well, you know,
00:22:06.380 Angela Rayner's plan
00:22:07.240 to disperse asylum seekers
00:22:08.980 elsewhere might actually
00:22:10.340 change the voting system.
00:22:13.600 I'm not happy with
00:22:14.340 how little Nigel Farage
00:22:15.660 is winning in the Southwest,
00:22:16.940 says Angela Rayner.
00:22:17.680 I can change that.
00:22:19.120 But this is the point
00:22:20.520 I wanted to make, though,
00:22:21.280 is if you're a reform
00:22:22.940 party strategist
00:22:23.980 and you're wondering
00:22:24.920 why you're not getting
00:22:26.160 anywhere in the Southwest,
00:22:27.000 you're absolutely correct.
00:22:28.800 The problem isn't
00:22:29.980 immigration in the Southwest,
00:22:31.260 it's stagnation.
00:22:32.540 And if you were to do
00:22:34.560 essentially what Thatcher
00:22:35.320 did with Essex and say,
00:22:36.300 look, we're going to make
00:22:37.220 you very rich.
00:22:38.740 Your standard of living
00:22:39.700 is going down.
00:22:40.300 We're not happy with that.
00:22:40.980 We know you're hardworking.
00:22:41.820 We know you're patriotic.
00:22:43.080 Actually, we're going to
00:22:44.440 essentially conquer Europe
00:22:46.000 economically.
00:22:47.500 You could have a very
00:22:48.800 aggressive campaign
00:22:49.600 because, like I said,
00:22:50.660 we were pro-Brexit.
00:22:52.340 We are a Brexit area as well.
00:22:54.120 We are not natural
00:22:55.100 liberal Democrats.
00:22:56.160 The reason the Lib Dems
00:22:57.080 are getting anywhere
00:22:57.560 is because essentially
00:22:58.800 that it's a kind of
00:22:59.980 non-political statement
00:23:02.340 to vote for the
00:23:03.080 Liberal Democrats.
00:23:04.160 Say, I don't really
00:23:04.720 want to talk about politics.
00:23:05.640 I vote Lib Dems.
00:23:06.660 This is what Ed Davies'
00:23:07.840 campaign was entirely
00:23:08.500 based on.
00:23:09.140 Look at him at some
00:23:10.340 water world or whatever
00:23:11.240 it was, like an actual
00:23:12.280 clown.
00:23:13.240 He's not proposing
00:23:13.900 any policies.
00:23:14.480 He's not talking about
00:23:14.880 anything interesting.
00:23:16.080 So, anyway,
00:23:17.980 some good news.
00:23:21.640 Just saw this come
00:23:22.500 on my feed.
00:23:23.560 I was like, well,
00:23:24.020 okay, yes.
00:23:25.080 I would like Lisa Nandy
00:23:26.240 to lose her seat.
00:23:27.280 And as you said,
00:23:28.100 Farage is well aware
00:23:29.880 that if you vote Tory,
00:23:31.600 you're going to get Labour.
00:23:32.800 And this seems to be true.
00:23:36.020 Farage is actually the
00:23:37.080 most popular party leader
00:23:38.060 in the country as well
00:23:39.220 as having the most
00:23:40.780 popular party in the
00:23:41.940 country.
00:23:42.800 So, I take it you saw
00:23:43.800 the other day when he
00:23:44.560 was in Parliament and
00:23:45.220 they were jeering him
00:23:46.100 and telling him to
00:23:46.740 resign.
00:23:47.700 And Farage take it
00:23:49.060 personally, and I don't
00:23:49.860 know why.
00:23:50.620 If I were Farage, I'd
00:23:51.720 be looking at them with
00:23:52.420 contempt and say,
00:23:53.160 you're all sitting in
00:23:53.860 my seats.
00:23:54.900 You're on borrowed
00:23:55.820 time.
00:23:56.740 Look at the polls.
00:23:57.400 You know you're all
00:23:58.400 gone come the next
00:23:59.500 election.
00:24:00.320 So, enjoy the time
00:24:01.000 while you've got it
00:24:01.900 and you'll see me
00:24:03.200 soon.
00:24:04.000 But for some reason,
00:24:05.080 he's been taking it
00:24:05.640 personally.
00:24:05.960 He doesn't need to.
00:24:07.320 From all of the
00:24:08.360 indications so far,
00:24:09.280 he is on track to win
00:24:10.340 a massive majority
00:24:11.780 and absolutely destroy
00:24:13.240 the Uniparty.
00:24:14.460 And so, like you said
00:24:15.400 earlier, there are a lot
00:24:16.300 of people in our spaces
00:24:17.060 where it's like, well,
00:24:17.620 he's not really right
00:24:18.220 wing enough.
00:24:18.600 Yeah, okay, yeah,
00:24:19.140 yeah, fair enough.
00:24:20.420 But crushing the Uniparty
00:24:21.580 is going to be an
00:24:22.640 amazing service to the
00:24:24.440 right in this country.
00:24:25.320 And so, I'm more than
00:24:26.900 happy to support
00:24:27.500 Faraj for that reason.
00:24:29.200 Yeah, and you know,
00:24:30.380 the best we can hope,
00:24:31.240 I mean, look, let's face
00:24:32.500 facts, the Reform Party
00:24:33.500 is the only game in town.
00:24:35.240 If we're going to have,
00:24:36.360 you know, a reverse
00:24:37.140 long march with
00:24:37.880 institutions and do
00:24:38.840 everything else, you
00:24:39.740 know, have a MAGA
00:24:40.400 light, it's only going to
00:24:42.020 be with Reform.
00:24:42.880 That's realistic.
00:24:43.780 You know, UKIP, all
00:24:44.880 these other parties,
00:24:46.060 lovely, but no one even
00:24:47.160 has heard of them in the
00:24:48.220 broader population.
00:24:49.720 The best we can hope
00:24:50.440 for, or my hope is,
00:24:51.780 that what Reform is doing
00:24:52.980 is essentially trying to
00:24:54.300 copy what Tony Blair did
00:24:56.240 in 97 and what Starmer
00:24:57.880 did, essentially talk a
00:24:59.500 rather centrist approach,
00:25:01.720 but have a radical plan
00:25:02.960 and agenda.
00:25:03.880 That means being
00:25:04.660 deceitful, I suppose,
00:25:05.680 but that's my only hope
00:25:07.120 for how we can actually
00:25:07.900 get proper policies
00:25:09.100 installed.
00:25:09.620 If they're not going to
00:25:10.120 be announcing them now,
00:25:11.460 maybe that's their plan
00:25:12.480 to essentially bring them
00:25:13.580 in once they got into
00:25:14.560 power and have a much
00:25:15.320 more radical agenda
00:25:16.140 than perhaps they told
00:25:17.320 the public.
00:25:18.900 Please let it be true.
00:25:20.220 Please let it be true.
00:25:21.220 Again, that's the
00:25:22.380 optimistic side.
00:25:23.440 Yeah.
00:25:24.540 The pessimistic side
00:25:25.840 is that Nigel Farage
00:25:27.560 is actually kind of as
00:25:28.440 wet as he is appearing
00:25:29.400 in the campaign trail,
00:25:30.440 which isn't optimistic,
00:25:31.280 but I don't know.
00:25:32.600 I'm not sure that he is.
00:25:33.540 Who knows?
00:25:34.200 We'll find out.
00:25:35.600 Well, the other hope is,
00:25:36.420 of course, after two years
00:25:37.840 or three years of MAGA,
00:25:39.900 there will be a tsunami
00:25:40.720 coming over the Atlantic
00:25:41.900 that will crash on our
00:25:42.980 shores and move that
00:25:43.800 Overton window so we can
00:25:45.100 actually discuss, you know,
00:25:46.500 I would, you know,
00:25:46.960 Tony Blair's campaign
00:25:48.080 slogan was education,
00:25:49.380 education, education,
00:25:50.340 and hopefully by then
00:25:51.440 it'll be re-migration,
00:25:52.620 re-migration, re-migration.
00:25:54.880 Well, if Rupert Lowe
00:25:55.680 has anything to do with it,
00:25:56.900 it seems that we're
00:25:57.800 on that track.
00:25:59.360 And let's go to some
00:26:00.020 comments quickly.
00:26:00.900 Glee says,
00:26:01.700 what role could a
00:26:02.360 potentially resurgent UKIP
00:26:03.740 play under Nick Tenconi
00:26:05.060 in the 2029 election?
00:26:06.480 Honestly, I don't see it
00:26:08.280 happening.
00:26:08.860 It's not that I have
00:26:10.020 anything against Nick Tenconi
00:26:11.100 or UKIP or anything like
00:26:12.000 that.
00:26:12.520 I just think you're
00:26:13.240 exactly right.
00:26:14.040 Reform is the only game
00:26:15.480 in town.
00:26:15.860 They're the ones sucking
00:26:16.780 up the right-wing energy.
00:26:18.340 We just have to accept it
00:26:19.340 and make the best of it.
00:26:21.180 And Annexio says,
00:26:22.260 Labour are doing a great
00:26:23.040 job promoting reform.
00:26:24.180 Look at Peter Lamb,
00:26:25.220 who said pensioners
00:26:25.920 have a choice whether
00:26:26.840 to freeze or not.
00:26:27.780 Crawley turned on him
00:26:28.620 and now he's looking
00:26:29.220 to be a reform win.
00:26:31.440 Yeah, well, that's the
00:26:32.220 thing.
00:26:32.480 I mean, what Labour want
00:26:33.940 is fundamentally evil.
00:26:36.360 And it's actually quite
00:26:37.980 easy to do nothing
00:26:39.060 and find yourself
00:26:39.980 in the winning position.
00:26:41.000 Because, I mean,
00:26:41.300 really all Farage is
00:26:42.200 doing is letting his
00:26:43.220 opponents fall apart.
00:26:44.800 Which, again,
00:26:45.240 is a perfectly sound
00:26:45.920 strategy.
00:26:46.340 Why interrupt your
00:26:48.060 enemies when they're
00:26:48.540 making a mistake?
00:26:50.080 Of course, a lot of this
00:26:50.940 could change once people
00:26:51.980 see the policies.
00:26:53.140 Because, again,
00:26:53.760 a lot of this is just
00:26:54.760 people being disaffected
00:26:55.980 by the Tories and Labour.
00:26:58.200 If they see the policies,
00:26:59.600 maybe it'll turn off
00:27:00.460 a lot of people too.
00:27:01.960 That's something also
00:27:02.760 we need to factor
00:27:03.400 into all of this.
00:27:04.460 Yeah, it's a needle
00:27:06.180 that reform have to
00:27:07.340 think about threading.
00:27:08.340 Anyway, let's move on.
00:27:10.940 Right, so I think that
00:27:12.240 2025 is a very
00:27:13.940 seminal year.
00:27:14.780 Historians will remember
00:27:16.120 it as the year that
00:27:17.080 the tide has turned
00:27:18.200 or that the tide turned
00:27:20.120 because the conception
00:27:21.780 of what is politically
00:27:22.740 possible has radically
00:27:24.460 shifted.
00:27:25.840 It happened with
00:27:27.860 three people
00:27:28.640 and three is the
00:27:29.520 magical number
00:27:30.200 in persuasion
00:27:31.040 and in rhetoric.
00:27:32.560 First came Bukele,
00:27:33.600 then came Millet,
00:27:34.760 then came Trump.
00:27:36.280 So I think that
00:27:37.040 this trinity
00:27:38.620 has been completed
00:27:39.840 and it actually
00:27:41.980 pushes forward
00:27:43.940 for the complete
00:27:45.180 change in the
00:27:47.220 people's conception
00:27:48.140 of what is
00:27:48.800 politically possible
00:27:49.660 because before
00:27:50.400 that,
00:27:53.420 most people would
00:27:54.280 say that
00:27:54.940 politics is just
00:27:56.840 the micromanagement
00:27:58.280 of decline.
00:27:59.320 It's just downhill
00:28:00.420 from here.
00:28:01.360 There is zero
00:28:01.920 representation.
00:28:03.220 No one cares
00:28:03.780 actually to represent
00:28:04.880 their voting base.
00:28:06.860 No one cares
00:28:07.560 for the safety
00:28:08.480 of their people.
00:28:09.080 it's just going
00:28:10.080 downhill.
00:28:11.040 But I think that
00:28:11.800 we see now
00:28:13.240 a lot of leaders
00:28:14.820 who are doing
00:28:15.620 the exact opposite.
00:28:17.100 I think that this
00:28:17.740 is particularly good
00:28:18.660 and let me just
00:28:19.480 give you a very
00:28:20.560 brief,
00:28:21.360 very brief
00:28:22.920 introduction to this
00:28:23.840 and contrast it
00:28:24.720 with politics in Europe
00:28:25.820 because I think
00:28:27.000 that the
00:28:27.680 distinction
00:28:29.900 between how
00:28:30.740 politics right now
00:28:32.020 is exercised
00:28:32.760 in the Americas
00:28:33.780 and how it is
00:28:34.560 exercised in Europe
00:28:36.060 is becoming
00:28:36.740 much more visible
00:28:37.820 and the more
00:28:38.500 people are
00:28:39.100 viewing this
00:28:40.260 the more likely
00:28:41.120 they are to
00:28:41.840 want this
00:28:43.080 and to demand
00:28:43.980 the self-evident
00:28:47.160 because to actually
00:28:48.920 represent your people
00:28:50.020 in a democracy
00:28:51.020 is what
00:28:51.760 a democracy
00:28:52.960 is supposed to be about.
00:28:54.140 Sounds like
00:28:54.480 dangerous populism to me.
00:28:56.040 I think we need
00:28:56.860 a bureaucracy
00:28:57.300 to manage the
00:28:58.380 decline and
00:28:59.580 reallocation of resources
00:29:01.500 to make sure
00:29:02.000 everyone gets
00:29:02.580 to share.
00:29:03.800 So what I wanted
00:29:04.900 to say is that
00:29:05.600 for instance
00:29:06.020 El Salvador
00:29:06.700 Bukela was in
00:29:07.940 El Salvador
00:29:08.500 El Salvador
00:29:09.800 was at once
00:29:11.220 the murder
00:29:11.960 capital of the world
00:29:13.020 he came in
00:29:14.200 he put some
00:29:15.200 bad people
00:29:15.680 in prison
00:29:16.160 now El Salvador
00:29:17.840 is one of the
00:29:19.940 safest countries
00:29:20.600 Not rocket science
00:29:21.500 is it?
00:29:21.880 It's not rocket science
00:29:22.860 and actually
00:29:23.720 one of the
00:29:24.600 good things
00:29:25.560 about it
00:29:25.980 is that
00:29:26.360 we don't need
00:29:28.400 a revolution
00:29:29.120 in philosophy
00:29:30.080 or something
00:29:30.680 we don't need
00:29:31.260 something radical
00:29:31.980 we actually need
00:29:33.160 people to enforce
00:29:34.120 laws
00:29:34.560 that have been
00:29:35.880 adopted
00:29:36.460 and embraced
00:29:37.380 for decades
00:29:38.420 but in the last
00:29:39.360 decades
00:29:39.920 we have
00:29:40.920 radical
00:29:41.740 since the
00:29:42.240 start of time
00:29:43.080 the very concept
00:29:43.760 of law
00:29:44.200 punish the wrongdoer
00:29:45.800 literally the essence
00:29:47.440 of law
00:29:48.060 the very first
00:29:49.140 laws that were
00:29:49.780 ever written
00:29:50.480 are the same
00:29:51.500 as the ones
00:29:52.040 we've got now
00:29:52.760 exactly
00:29:54.020 but if you see
00:29:55.080 you see here
00:29:58.840 maybe this is
00:30:00.660 the wrong document
00:30:01.300 but I'll just
00:30:02.200 tell you the data
00:30:03.080 we have 88%
00:30:04.320 of Salvadorians
00:30:05.940 who feel
00:30:06.460 really well
00:30:07.420 walking
00:30:07.780 and safe
00:30:08.500 walking out
00:30:09.040 at night
00:30:09.420 people in Ecuador
00:30:10.500 don't
00:30:11.680 and this is
00:30:12.840 they feel
00:30:13.800 27% safe
00:30:15.160 and this is
00:30:15.840 a huge difference
00:30:17.060 very similar people
00:30:18.160 very similar culture
00:30:18.980 very similar climate
00:30:19.940 very similar environment
00:30:20.860 what's the difference
00:30:22.160 well
00:30:22.560 the leader
00:30:23.100 not only the leader
00:30:24.820 it's the
00:30:25.560 it's the
00:30:26.760 enforcement
00:30:27.820 of the law
00:30:28.500 not a secret
00:30:29.460 or something
00:30:29.860 here the suicide
00:30:30.700 the murder rates
00:30:32.200 the homicide rates
00:30:33.380 in El Salvador
00:30:34.080 in the last decade
00:30:35.560 we had 108
00:30:37.360 at some point
00:30:38.740 103
00:30:39.540 per 100,000 people
00:30:41.660 now
00:30:42.460 after Bukele
00:30:43.480 in
00:30:43.980 came
00:30:45.120 in 2019
00:30:46.100 it has dropped
00:30:47.080 down to 2.4
00:30:48.140 he literally
00:30:50.420 transformed
00:30:51.040 and
00:30:51.360 he literally
00:30:52.260 transformed
00:30:52.940 El Salvador
00:30:53.740 to one of the
00:30:54.580 safest places
00:30:55.260 and it's not
00:30:57.640 rocket science
00:30:58.300 how he did it
00:30:59.540 now
00:31:00.080 Millet is the
00:31:01.420 second person
00:31:02.120 Argentina
00:31:02.980 has suffered
00:31:03.880 from decades
00:31:04.680 of Peronism
00:31:05.500 decades
00:31:06.300 of inflation
00:31:07.100 decades
00:31:08.260 of high poverty
00:31:09.480 rate
00:31:09.800 he came in
00:31:10.720 he did actually
00:31:11.500 what is supposed
00:31:12.260 to work
00:31:12.700 just for anyone
00:31:13.440 who doesn't know
00:31:13.880 what Peronism is
00:31:14.760 communism
00:31:15.200 it's just
00:31:15.800 communists
00:31:16.500 it's just
00:31:16.960 statism
00:31:18.360 status policies
00:31:19.780 what happens
00:31:20.380 when a communist
00:31:20.860 takes over your country
00:31:21.660 is they use
00:31:22.100 the government
00:31:22.460 to immiserate
00:31:23.120 the entire population
00:31:24.040 exactly
00:31:24.620 and that's happened
00:31:25.520 across South America
00:31:26.280 for decades
00:31:26.900 it's happening here
00:31:27.640 now
00:31:27.960 it's happened
00:31:28.340 across Europe
00:31:28.840 it's just communism
00:31:30.140 and this
00:31:30.960 this is not rocket science
00:31:32.400 he tamed inflation
00:31:33.540 not rocket science
00:31:34.960 stop spending money
00:31:36.060 stop allowing the government
00:31:37.080 spend all your money
00:31:37.840 exactly
00:31:38.660 so
00:31:39.260 and his popularity
00:31:40.700 is actually a really good thing
00:31:42.500 now because
00:31:43.120 the policies
00:31:44.420 that he advocates
00:31:45.600 are policies
00:31:46.500 that frequently
00:31:47.160 in the short term
00:31:48.280 don't yield results
00:31:49.680 but actually
00:31:50.760 in this case
00:31:51.360 I think a lot
00:31:52.080 I hear a lot
00:31:52.860 of Argentinians
00:31:53.600 who are happy
00:31:54.060 I have a friend
00:31:55.420 who is Argentinian
00:31:56.420 he's told me
00:31:57.140 that he's ecstatic
00:31:57.960 because he finally
00:31:59.040 found a job
00:31:59.700 and he also
00:32:00.220 has someone
00:32:01.080 who feels
00:32:02.160 he is representing him
00:32:03.380 and what is most important
00:32:04.520 he says that there is
00:32:05.320 a cultural aspect
00:32:06.180 to it
00:32:06.600 there is what is called
00:32:08.040 in Argentina
00:32:08.820 the viveza creola mentality
00:32:10.360 which is basically
00:32:11.440 the mentality
00:32:11.980 that corruption
00:32:12.600 is all there is
00:32:13.460 and that there can be
00:32:14.840 nothing else
00:32:15.320 and he says
00:32:16.140 that Millet
00:32:16.540 is actually
00:32:17.040 leading the fight
00:32:17.940 against this
00:32:18.580 I love Millet's
00:32:19.740 kind of intense look
00:32:20.700 sorry can we go back
00:32:21.400 to it a sec
00:32:21.800 yes
00:32:22.180 he's got this
00:32:23.180 remarkable
00:32:23.940 intenseness
00:32:24.740 about him
00:32:25.400 I find very engaging
00:32:27.220 I love watching
00:32:28.280 I can never understand
00:32:29.080 what he's saying
00:32:29.460 obviously he's saying
00:32:30.000 in Spanish
00:32:30.440 but I just like
00:32:31.600 seeing the sort of
00:32:32.440 like
00:32:32.680 yeah yeah
00:32:33.880 but he's like a maniac
00:32:35.180 against state spending
00:32:37.800 and as someone
00:32:38.820 who's just recently
00:32:39.520 had to pay his taxes
00:32:40.420 my god
00:32:40.980 I feel that energy
00:32:42.220 he can actually
00:32:43.480 exercise elementary
00:32:44.720 reasoning skills
00:32:45.980 he says we have a goal
00:32:47.340 he's an economist
00:32:47.720 these are the
00:32:48.380 well there have been
00:32:49.820 other economists
00:32:50.600 I know
00:32:51.240 so these are
00:32:54.180 this is the goal
00:32:55.140 these are the means
00:32:56.140 we take the means
00:32:56.940 to the goal
00:32:57.460 and we're
00:32:59.380 on our way
00:33:00.500 to achieving the goal
00:33:01.380 now comes Trump
00:33:02.560 and I wouldn't
00:33:04.120 ever expect
00:33:05.140 that this was
00:33:05.900 going to be
00:33:06.360 something people
00:33:06.980 would cheer on
00:33:07.860 or something
00:33:08.400 that this
00:33:09.540 would be heard
00:33:10.620 that he just
00:33:11.580 signs an executive
00:33:12.480 to ban men
00:33:13.180 from competing
00:33:13.800 in women's sports
00:33:14.720 the whole signing
00:33:17.380 of this
00:33:17.740 was so wholesome
00:33:18.480 though
00:33:18.780 it was just
00:33:19.820 you know
00:33:20.140 Trump with all
00:33:20.760 these kids
00:33:21.260 all these young
00:33:21.760 girls
00:33:22.000 and he just
00:33:22.860 completely normally
00:33:23.600 he's like
00:33:24.220 grandfather Trump
00:33:25.260 handing out
00:33:26.040 the pens afterwards
00:33:26.820 you know
00:33:27.120 haven't you had
00:33:27.460 a good time
00:33:28.040 you know
00:33:28.300 look at that
00:33:29.020 in the best
00:33:29.580 signature
00:33:29.960 and it's just
00:33:30.660 like
00:33:30.840 there's something
00:33:31.720 very homely
00:33:32.560 and appealing
00:33:33.020 about it
00:33:33.420 it's like
00:33:33.800 when he was
00:33:34.080 at the McDonald's
00:33:34.780 and he's waving
00:33:35.220 out of their thing
00:33:35.900 it was just like
00:33:36.560 it's the grandpa
00:33:37.680 Trump
00:33:38.080 yeah grandpa
00:33:38.840 Trump
00:33:39.120 he's truly
00:33:39.760 moving to the
00:33:40.460 sort of patriarch
00:33:41.180 you know
00:33:42.120 caring patriarch
00:33:43.520 mold
00:33:43.980 and I really
00:33:44.680 approve of it
00:33:45.460 so now that we
00:33:46.580 have the trinity
00:33:47.320 it's developing
00:33:48.700 a kind of synergy
00:33:49.760 to an unprecedented
00:33:51.380 level
00:33:52.020 Millet now
00:33:53.140 is banning
00:33:54.720 sex change
00:33:56.420 surgeries
00:33:57.120 on mariners
00:33:58.640 in Argentina
00:33:59.360 you see the
00:34:00.180 virtues change
00:34:01.240 so
00:34:01.460 not very controversial
00:34:02.560 really
00:34:03.300 it's not
00:34:03.760 but that's the issue
00:34:04.680 with how
00:34:05.320 the left
00:34:06.260 has acted
00:34:08.440 in the last decades
00:34:09.420 because
00:34:09.700 if you're just
00:34:10.980 a raving lunatic
00:34:12.380 then whoever's
00:34:14.200 the other person
00:34:14.800 you're basically
00:34:15.400 handing them
00:34:16.000 easy wins
00:34:16.660 yeah
00:34:17.420 but also
00:34:18.200 the thing
00:34:19.700 with the left
00:34:20.120 it's the control
00:34:20.860 of discourse
00:34:21.580 and stigma
00:34:22.380 that has been
00:34:23.640 what has allowed
00:34:24.480 them to get
00:34:25.220 anywhere
00:34:25.640 in anything
00:34:26.400 the pure
00:34:27.340 negative
00:34:28.420 characterisation
00:34:29.200 of anyone
00:34:29.760 who might have
00:34:30.500 a differing opinion
00:34:31.140 has been a
00:34:31.700 really powerful
00:34:32.400 tool that we've
00:34:32.940 allowed them
00:34:33.400 to have
00:34:33.700 far too long
00:34:34.720 exactly
00:34:35.120 and I mean
00:34:36.020 Trump right now
00:34:36.940 has signed
00:34:37.220 several executive
00:34:38.520 orders that seem
00:34:39.440 to me to be
00:34:39.900 very commonsensical
00:34:40.960 for instance
00:34:41.620 the deportations
00:34:42.580 issue
00:34:42.960 there was no
00:34:44.500 issue
00:34:44.860 there was no
00:34:46.220 problem
00:34:46.660 nothing stopped
00:34:47.560 stopped him
00:34:48.500 he said okay
00:34:49.100 they're getting
00:34:49.620 deported
00:34:50.100 the president of
00:34:51.160 Colombia said
00:34:51.780 at some point
00:34:52.280 no
00:34:52.640 he tried
00:34:53.840 to put up
00:34:54.460 a fight
00:34:54.880 but at the
00:34:55.580 end
00:34:55.760 he accepted
00:34:56.980 there are
00:34:57.740 many of them
00:34:58.600 we've discussed
00:34:59.300 them
00:34:59.620 that's why
00:35:00.640 I'm putting
00:35:01.200 another one
00:35:01.720 that
00:35:01.840 it's like
00:35:02.300 it's ruinous
00:35:02.940 to send
00:35:03.260 these people
00:35:03.620 back to my
00:35:04.060 country
00:35:04.300 so we've
00:35:08.240 talked about
00:35:08.680 them a lot
00:35:09.180 on our
00:35:10.220 segments
00:35:10.600 that's why
00:35:11.040 I'm talking
00:35:11.640 about this
00:35:12.560 executive order
00:35:13.520 now
00:35:13.840 he signs
00:35:14.520 an executive
00:35:15.060 order to
00:35:15.680 resume the
00:35:16.200 process of
00:35:16.780 creating a
00:35:17.680 new national
00:35:18.320 park full of
00:35:19.060 statues of
00:35:20.000 the greatest
00:35:20.420 Americans who
00:35:21.120 ever lived
00:35:21.560 I think
00:35:22.320 that this
00:35:22.640 is again
00:35:23.340 a paradigm
00:35:23.920 shift
00:35:24.400 because it
00:35:25.620 might sound
00:35:26.320 weird to
00:35:26.860 people who
00:35:27.240 don't follow
00:35:27.720 politics
00:35:28.260 because they
00:35:29.300 may think
00:35:30.320 that yeah
00:35:30.800 obviously
00:35:31.280 politicians are
00:35:32.880 happy and
00:35:34.000 they support
00:35:35.200 great Americans
00:35:35.920 but no this
00:35:36.760 is a paradigm
00:35:37.460 shift because
00:35:38.520 it's a blow
00:35:40.020 to the narrative
00:35:40.780 of shaming
00:35:41.560 and this is
00:35:43.100 something that we
00:35:44.420 desperately need
00:35:45.440 here in Europe
00:35:46.120 because for
00:35:47.460 some reason
00:35:48.060 the Europeans
00:35:48.980 are just
00:35:49.860 having a
00:35:51.060 masochistic
00:35:51.900 fetish with
00:35:52.640 shaming and
00:35:53.820 historical shame
00:35:54.680 the West has
00:35:55.280 always dominated
00:35:56.340 when it has
00:35:56.920 been self
00:35:57.460 confident and
00:35:58.460 assertive and
00:35:59.680 it's known
00:36:00.420 what or who
00:36:01.600 it is and
00:36:02.580 it's when we've
00:36:03.160 been navel
00:36:03.640 gazing and
00:36:04.260 nihilistic and
00:36:05.060 wearing a
00:36:05.460 horsehair shirt
00:36:06.240 and self
00:36:06.960 flagellating that
00:36:08.140 we see the West
00:36:08.800 at its weakest
00:36:09.400 and being taken
00:36:11.160 for a ride by
00:36:12.800 Russia, China
00:36:14.240 who display all
00:36:15.640 those qualities
00:36:16.240 that we once did
00:36:17.080 about self
00:36:17.600 confidence and
00:36:18.700 assertiveness and
00:36:19.480 that's why he
00:36:20.320 announced this when
00:36:20.900 he was last
00:36:21.420 president and I
00:36:22.580 was so happy
00:36:23.120 about it because
00:36:23.520 it's a complete
00:36:24.080 slap in the face
00:36:24.980 to BLM all
00:36:26.340 those people
00:36:27.240 who are those
00:36:27.780 iconoclasts who
00:36:28.620 are tearing down
00:36:29.200 great heroes I
00:36:30.460 wish we had
00:36:30.900 something like that
00:36:31.540 here my only
00:36:32.400 slight because you
00:36:32.920 know Americans
00:36:34.080 hate monarchy but
00:36:35.320 the power of a
00:36:36.740 president with
00:36:37.160 executive orders is
00:36:38.480 greater than any
00:36:39.160 monarch of in
00:36:40.140 European you
00:36:41.060 history for the
00:36:41.540 last 200 years
00:36:42.580 my only thing is
00:36:44.000 executive orders are
00:36:44.780 so easy to repeal
00:36:45.700 by the next
00:36:46.220 incumbent and it's
00:36:48.120 fine to do it in
00:36:48.760 the short term I
00:36:49.900 just hope now that
00:36:50.680 Congress is
00:36:51.200 Republican there'll
00:36:52.280 be legislation to
00:36:53.180 actually ensure that
00:36:54.060 this stuff lasts more
00:36:54.980 than just four years
00:36:55.740 I absolutely agree
00:36:56.920 with you and I
00:36:57.660 think that this is
00:36:58.260 important especially
00:36:59.160 for the MAGA
00:37:00.000 triumphalists who
00:37:01.620 literally view Trump
00:37:03.620 right now as some
00:37:04.920 communists viewed
00:37:05.560 Castro because Castro
00:37:06.880 gave those speeches
00:37:07.680 he signed some
00:37:08.380 executives and they
00:37:09.540 thought okay he said
00:37:10.700 he's gonna bring
00:37:11.280 growth so growth
00:37:12.040 came no it hasn't
00:37:13.280 happened yet that's
00:37:13.960 why a lot of it's
00:37:15.700 it's beginning now
00:37:16.820 the changes need to be
00:37:18.500 cemented in legislation
00:37:19.640 exactly but it's a
00:37:21.260 good way to start the
00:37:22.320 fire to the fireplace you
00:37:23.940 need some kindling and
00:37:25.060 you need to it's only
00:37:26.220 been two weeks or
00:37:26.980 something exactly so
00:37:27.940 it's a strong start and
00:37:28.940 I think that it is a
00:37:30.040 good message that I'm
00:37:31.860 here to do business and
00:37:33.600 I'm here to form an
00:37:36.120 alliance with people who
00:37:37.360 mean business rather
00:37:38.820 than just want to
00:37:40.780 partake in lose-lose
00:37:42.600 situations as Musk said
00:37:44.200 he said we have one
00:37:45.040 chance to have this
00:37:45.960 revolution and it's now
00:37:47.260 if we don't do it now
00:37:48.280 it'll never happen and
00:37:49.340 so you do need to be an
00:37:50.400 immediate disruptor it is
00:37:51.800 shock and awe
00:37:52.480 I mean any any year of
00:37:55.560 leftist subversion is a
00:37:56.820 year too many and that's
00:37:59.140 good so I want to say
00:38:00.300 that here in Europe
00:38:01.940 I'm absolutely I find
00:38:04.620 European leadership
00:38:05.760 abominable we're not in
00:38:07.140 Europe you're not in
00:38:09.820 continental Europe yeah
00:38:11.760 or or not so is this a
00:38:13.840 lot mine now England is
00:38:15.400 something apart okay I've
00:38:17.560 long maintained England
00:38:18.880 and Europe cut off
00:38:20.100 okay that's precisely the
00:38:22.060 attitude I have okay I'm
00:38:23.640 gonna be diplomatic here is
00:38:26.040 England and the loss of
00:38:27.640 the world are you happy
00:38:28.480 with that formulation that's
00:38:30.040 fine right so I think in
00:38:31.460 England and and in
00:38:33.020 continental Europe people
00:38:34.660 view politics as
00:38:36.040 essentially the
00:38:36.660 micromanagement of
00:38:37.540 decline and they have
00:38:38.640 the exact opposite
00:38:39.720 approach to politics
00:38:41.480 than Trump Millet and
00:38:43.000 Bukele have there is
00:38:44.620 always an obstacle as if
00:38:47.760 actually being good for
00:38:49.640 your country and your
00:38:50.340 people violates the human
00:38:51.660 right of migrating to a
00:38:53.760 country and destroying it
00:38:54.800 or wanting it to be
00:38:55.980 destroyed that's so it's
00:38:58.980 it's not just cultural it's
00:39:00.620 also economical the EU is
00:39:03.660 just causing its own
00:39:05.640 brain drain by this is a
00:39:08.980 true turn of phrase to
00:39:10.280 the US innovates China
00:39:11.620 replicates and the EU
00:39:12.480 regulates yeah it reminds
00:39:14.080 me you know when in 1940
00:39:16.080 at the height of the war
00:39:17.140 when Britain was standing
00:39:18.260 alone and it looked like
00:39:19.500 all of Europe would fall
00:39:20.440 Churchill said one of his
00:39:21.500 speeches he looked forward
00:39:23.420 to the time when the new
00:39:24.540 world with all its power and
00:39:26.040 might steps forward to the
00:39:27.620 rescue and liberation of
00:39:28.660 the old and you've got
00:39:29.960 that triumvirate right in
00:39:31.220 Ecuador and El Salvador
00:39:33.160 Argentina and America who
00:39:35.160 could actually provide the
00:39:36.740 means of liberation
00:39:37.760 exactly so I'm tired of
00:39:39.860 socialism I'm whether it's
00:39:41.640 fast or slow I just don't
00:39:43.100 want it and I think that
00:39:44.520 Europe the message the
00:39:45.660 timescale wasn't the issue
00:39:46.820 yeah yeah no but the point
00:39:49.300 is that the message Europe
00:39:50.660 is sending to people is I
00:39:53.040 don't respect ambitious
00:39:54.220 people I don't respect the
00:39:55.900 profit motive so you're
00:39:57.620 going to have to be here
00:39:58.900 and just abide by my
00:40:00.940 regulations well notice
00:40:02.380 that the entire aspect of
00:40:04.340 the European Union is about
00:40:05.680 predictability and
00:40:07.100 certainty and the problem
00:40:08.540 that they have with what
00:40:10.580 you're suggesting is you are
00:40:12.800 literally offering them
00:40:14.120 unpredictability and
00:40:15.200 uncertainty things may
00:40:16.800 happen in the future that
00:40:17.680 you're not in control of so
00:40:18.920 of course they're intrinsically
00:40:20.920 against it exactly the
00:40:22.420 entire managerial frame is
00:40:23.600 designed to know precisely
00:40:25.840 what tomorrow is going to be
00:40:27.180 like and if you can not
00:40:29.380 guarantee that tomorrow will
00:40:30.420 be exactly like today they're
00:40:31.420 going to reject it out of
00:40:32.120 hand exactly and when you
00:40:34.120 have a leadership that says I
00:40:36.440 don't respect ambitious
00:40:37.660 people I don't respect people
00:40:39.460 who want to innovate and I
00:40:40.700 don't want to respect the
00:40:41.740 profit motive you have someone
00:40:43.160 across the pond like Trump
00:40:44.340 who's again signing an
00:40:46.000 executive order to profit from
00:40:48.260 their brain drain and he says
00:40:49.680 he's establishing an AI
00:40:51.440 innovation refugee status for
00:40:53.580 tech entrepreneurs and AI
00:40:55.120 researchers fleeing EU's
00:40:56.980 restrictive A laws we should
00:40:59.140 have been doing this this is
00:41:00.340 what we should have been doing
00:41:01.240 with Brexit exactly right so
00:41:03.660 what do we have here in
00:41:04.960 England we have a government
00:41:06.700 that is talking about non-crime
00:41:09.960 hate incidents I mean that's
00:41:13.420 not that's not the way to go
00:41:14.700 forward you would think no it's
00:41:18.880 not it's just not I it's
00:41:20.520 subjectively absolutely and yet
00:41:22.840 here we are with our non-crime
00:41:24.700 hate incidents as all the
00:41:26.060 brains go to the United States
00:41:27.940 we have also voices that say
00:41:30.200 well for pedophiles can't be
00:41:32.700 deported because it violates the
00:41:35.560 human rights of their family to
00:41:37.420 have them close to them or it
00:41:39.700 violates the the well-being of
00:41:42.380 them to have a close family life
00:41:44.380 so we have several the pedophile
00:41:47.120 needs unlimited access to
00:41:48.720 children is what they're saying
00:41:50.400 well they're saying that if the
00:41:52.000 pedophile gets deported the
00:41:53.580 family of the pedophile is going
00:41:55.160 to have a negative well-being
00:41:56.340 it's going to impact their
00:41:58.500 well-being I'm sure it'd be
00:41:59.400 perfectly fine to keep the
00:42:00.300 pedophile in the house with his
00:42:01.400 own children that didn't stomp
00:42:03.000 that this kind of rationale
00:42:04.480 didn't enter Trump's mind when he
00:42:06.440 was negotiating with Colombia and
00:42:08.600 with Haiti but for some reason
00:42:10.560 people here in Europe and the
00:42:14.340 England think we don't even
00:42:16.620 need to you know it's not even
00:42:17.460 about the ECHR you know we've had
00:42:19.020 14 years where we could have got
00:42:20.480 rid of the Human Rights Act and
00:42:22.080 the Equalities Act it was the
00:42:23.140 Human Rights Act of our of
00:42:24.540 Gordon Brown Tony Blair that tied
00:42:26.560 us into that exactly we have here
00:42:28.680 headlines like this migrant
00:42:30.320 shambles as unnamed judge let's
00:42:32.340 pedophile we cannot name to protect
00:42:34.620 his privacy stay in UK because
00:42:36.220 because panic Pakistan his family
00:42:38.760 might disapprove of him lasting
00:42:41.300 after barely pubescent girls so
00:42:43.040 there we have we have we have
00:42:46.560 political judges man we've got such
00:42:49.560 a problem with our judges the
00:42:50.900 problem is that they're allowed to
00:42:54.120 take risks with the safety of
00:42:56.560 European people yeah of the native
00:42:58.480 population of European countries
00:43:01.160 that they're not prepared to take
00:43:02.940 with convicted criminals because
00:43:05.980 this it's it's not an argument you
00:43:08.880 can't make that argument it's not a
00:43:10.480 sound argument thrash him then deport
00:43:12.800 him I mean it's really not very
00:43:14.280 complicated the other thing now we
00:43:15.400 see is people saying that they're
00:43:16.460 bisexual and rapists and others so
00:43:18.520 that can't be deported because I'm
00:43:19.880 bisexual exactly and all this is
00:43:21.880 contributing to actually the decline
00:43:24.460 of Europe so it's not a surprise if you
00:43:26.840 see politics as the micromanaging of
00:43:29.900 decline yeah you're gonna face decline
00:43:32.000 here we have the list of bombings in
00:43:35.040 Sweden it resembles a band's tour
00:43:38.580 schedule three literally one day yeah
00:43:41.840 different city it's 33 in in January I
00:43:46.360 don't know I thought that Sweden was
00:43:48.480 supposed to be the gem of Scandinavia
00:43:51.180 according to social Democrats who were
00:43:53.680 saying look at how these the all these
00:43:56.060 policies come into fruition rape and bomb
00:43:58.880 capital of the world by 2050 approximately
00:44:02.040 30 percent of the nation will be Muslim
00:44:03.800 according to the latest stats but don't
00:44:05.360 worry because diversity is our greatest
00:44:07.280 strength progress right progress you don't
00:44:09.840 understand here for some reason we have
00:44:13.840 Germany shooting the its own feet ah yes
00:44:17.620 economically speaking and energy speaking
00:44:20.560 look at the nuclear energy production of
00:44:24.340 its own it literally turned its back on its
00:44:26.860 nuclear program I know it's so but we're
00:44:29.280 getting into this in the next segment
00:44:30.460 actually it's just so ridiculous crime in
00:44:32.440 Germany in every kind of violent crime
00:44:35.380 is rising by at least 10 percent per year
00:44:37.840 we have the same pattern that follows
00:44:40.740 politicians that constantly make virtue
00:44:42.780 signaling remarks but actually end up
00:44:45.440 doing nothing and we have the green saying
00:44:47.320 well maybe we should ban knives maybe we
00:44:49.920 should ban we should ban men in women in
00:44:53.740 and carriage train carriages macro
00:44:56.620 management of decline we have men in
00:44:58.900 balaclavas in Belgium coming in and just
00:45:02.380 firing Kalashnikov AK-47s pardon me why why do
00:45:08.440 we have to live like this are these people
00:45:10.180 here and just Millet gives us the answer if
00:45:13.360 anyone is talking about this in Europe they
00:45:16.700 are immediately being branded as 20th century
00:45:20.520 mid mid 20th century Germans by their own
00:45:24.340 establishment so we have an establishment
00:45:26.680 that in the name of protecting our democracy
00:45:29.480 is actually promoting incredibly unpopular
00:45:32.160 agendas it's turning the back on its people
00:45:35.500 on the native population it's mostly composed of
00:45:39.180 unelected bureaucrats who are essentially saying
00:45:41.920 if you want common sense you're far right
00:45:44.900 I'm going to destroy you that's no way to go
00:45:48.080 forward I've just come to accept that I may
00:45:50.380 actually be far right by their standards
00:45:52.200 oh really I would never have thought that
00:45:55.040 yeah I know I just accept yeah so I actually
00:45:57.320 don't want rampaging foreign we've got we've
00:45:59.760 got at the new culture forum we've got
00:46:01.260 coming out on Sunday uh what our new
00:46:04.120 documentary heresies and I think it's the
00:46:05.740 most powerful thing we've ever done and it's
00:46:07.280 called Britain's silent rape explosion and
00:46:10.500 it actually goes into to why we've seen this
00:46:13.380 great cover-up of the ethnic identity of the
00:46:15.560 perpetrators of rape not just in Britain but
00:46:17.560 in Germany in Sweden and elsewhere and of course
00:46:20.780 it's being covered up because the the our elites
00:46:23.540 can't accept don't want us to find out that
00:46:25.900 they're the ones who've actually caused the
00:46:28.060 identity and because yeah and because the
00:46:30.320 commonsensical belief that the role of the
00:46:32.260 police is to actually protect the liberties of
00:46:34.860 the people is was rejected by someone who said
00:46:38.500 well I want DI I want I want several ethnic
00:46:42.680 positions disseminated across some population
00:46:45.880 some positions and the job of the police
00:46:48.520 suddenly didn't become to ensure you're not
00:46:51.800 considering the abilities of the criminal yeah
00:46:53.920 it's DI DI is not about doing the job is about
00:46:56.400 getting the job correct or as musk said DI is
00:47:00.520 DI exactly yeah so the the more we see people
00:47:04.100 like Trump Millet and Bukele the better I hope
00:47:07.160 they change the paradigm in over of this side
00:47:10.220 of the Atlantic as well well what's interesting
00:47:12.320 though is that we've seen a great wave to the
00:47:16.040 swerve to the right across the west so you've
00:47:18.540 seen the most conservative government in New
00:47:20.540 Zealand now elected you've seen Geert Wilders
00:47:23.160 get going into power of course we have we have
00:47:25.340 Maloney as well who was invited to the
00:47:27.020 inauguration obviously Orban is there the rise
00:47:30.380 of the AFD and Le Pen and so forth and if you
00:47:32.760 look at last year analysis was done and the
00:47:35.780 gap between the right-wing share of the vote
00:47:38.520 and the left-wing share of the vote is at its
00:47:40.100 wide distance 1990 the left haven't been this
00:47:43.360 unpopular since the Cold War it's 46% of the
00:47:46.460 west voted for the right versus 40 versus 30
00:47:50.440 something for the for the for the left yet
00:47:52.580 despite that all of the levers of power all of
00:47:55.880 the media all of the institutions are still
00:47:58.500 perpetuating this left-wing global perspective
00:48:01.320 although that that may change since Donald
00:48:03.900 Trump and Elon Musk have torn out the
00:48:06.200 financial nervous system of their entire
00:48:08.120 network it turns out the left-wing media was
00:48:10.960 astroturfed by the US government if you can
00:48:13.480 believe it yeah weirdly not popular and but
00:48:17.460 it is remarkable though that there's still
00:48:19.240 you know a third of the country will still
00:48:21.160 vote for a policy which is essentially I would
00:48:23.240 like to destroy the country is it like because
00:48:25.840 they're not even shy about saying these things
00:48:28.180 anymore right these are the people with whom
00:48:30.580 their sympathies lie every criminal every
00:48:33.280 foreigner every bureaucrat everyone who
00:48:36.260 wants to make you poor and less safe lies in
00:48:39.440 the scope and the compass of left-wing activism
00:48:41.740 so if I mean who are these people voting for
00:48:46.280 Labour I can only assume that very old people
00:48:49.560 who haven't got the memo yet or something like
00:48:51.220 that anyway Bald Eagle says if Malay rescued
00:48:54.660 reduced inflation by that much by cutting
00:48:57.600 government waste I'm excited to see how fast
00:48:59.220 US inflation drops when Musk and Doge are done
00:49:02.220 cutting our government well I mean everyone
00:49:04.180 is to be honest I mean honestly who isn't
00:49:06.840 enjoying watching it right who isn't having a
00:49:09.360 great time every morning I wake up on my phone
00:49:11.860 is my American friends going nuts they've done
00:49:14.400 this is what is it now you know it's actually
00:49:16.720 nice to get daily news is good we have to live
00:49:20.520 vicariously through the new world in the old
00:49:22.580 world you have to understand and question for
00:49:25.640 royal expert Rafe are there any remaining
00:49:27.940 provisions in our laws that would allow a
00:49:29.660 hypothetical future monarch on our side to
00:49:31.980 step in and stop the destruction of the UK
00:49:33.380 well as quick as I understand it I mean
00:49:36.060 technically he could right yeah there's
00:49:38.480 nothing stopping his majesty from essentially
00:49:40.580 dissolving parliament and removing the prime
00:49:43.020 minister but of course it would create a huge
00:49:44.900 constitutional crisis and would probably lead
00:49:47.420 to the end of the monarchy itself because
00:49:49.840 unfortunately the great mass of the population
00:49:51.560 don't see the great fundamental crisis that
00:49:54.960 this nation is in you know I'd be willing to
00:49:57.300 flip the coin on that I think that a patriotic
00:50:00.060 king would be able to bring people against
00:50:02.240 parliament at this point well yeah I would love
00:50:05.880 to think that I'm not quite certain I agree
00:50:07.840 with you I don't I don't think it's Charles but
00:50:11.540 is there a saying we'll cross the bridge when we get
00:50:14.380 there yes just okay we're saying we could get to
00:50:18.960 the bridge anyway let's let's move on because
00:50:21.840 Britain is finally getting some nuclear energy
00:50:24.800 finally I mean this in the face of the
00:50:30.100 ideological net zero climate nonsense as you
00:50:33.040 can see here from only a couple of days ago from
00:50:35.580 the right honourable Ed Miliband and his
00:50:37.380 department for energy security the government
00:50:40.400 has launched an expanded net zero council and
00:50:43.520 it's just pure fanaticism from Miliband I mean
00:50:46.220 look at the graphics right they tell you
00:50:47.840 everything you need to know we're gonna have
00:50:49.280 wind turbines and we're gonna have solar energy
00:50:51.420 it's like oh are we oh well it's re-industrializing
00:50:55.000 Britain what wind turbines solar panels that's
00:50:59.040 not that's not gonna work is it idiot uh and
00:51:01.740 it's just like his entire twitter feed is just
00:51:03.900 this kind of woke net zero nonsense right and
00:51:05.900 so it's like right I'm glad this guy's in
00:51:07.660 charge of our energy uh needs in the future here's
00:51:10.740 their path their plan green pills oh my god he's
00:51:14.860 I just so quick aside right green energy when
00:51:20.720 they say green energy and they say oh we need uh
00:51:23.780 wind turbines we need uh solar panels what
00:51:26.320 they're saying is we want communism right that's
00:51:28.100 what they're asking for is what they're saying is
00:51:29.960 anything that would be productive and actually
00:51:32.080 help our society grow and flourish we are going
00:51:34.700 to marginalize and put in the that's evil camp and
00:51:38.300 we're going to take everything that is actually
00:51:39.700 fundamentally quite unproductive and try and
00:51:41.900 force it on you and try and get you to accept a
00:51:44.480 lower standard of living and so I mean they
00:51:47.320 she's saying this uh we are accepting the
00:51:49.880 government's central role in steering the creation
00:51:51.380 of this new energy system setting expectations for
00:51:53.780 the 2030 capacities of key technologies at national
00:51:56.060 and regional level we have high ambition that
00:51:58.300 means 43 to 50 gigawatts of offshore wind
00:52:01.900 why 27 to 29 gigawatts of onshore wind oh brilliant
00:52:07.080 that's going to look amazing thank you so much
00:52:09.060 and 45 to 47 gigawatts of solar power
00:52:13.120 we're in england what are you thinking
00:52:17.400 you are I'm going to go through this exactly the
00:52:20.940 numbers as well because this is crazy right
00:52:22.640 and so they're doing this to significantly reduce our fossil
00:52:25.480 fuel dependency because Ed Miliband is going to save
00:52:28.680 the world from total destruction in a cataclysmic
00:52:32.040 firestorm of global warming it's Ed Miliband he's going
00:52:35.240 to be the guy so you're not the guy Ed you're a moron
00:52:38.460 right and so they're going to spend 40 billion on
00:52:41.500 average per year between 2025 and 2030 because we're
00:52:45.460 just so flush for cash at the moment you see money
00:52:48.400 falling out of our pockets and so why not just say oh
00:52:51.840 there's a 20 billion black hole yes and that's why
00:52:53.660 we're going to spend 40 billion on this alone a year
00:52:56.260 for the next five years and so I mean why would we even glance
00:53:00.340 at solar power why would we this is the number of annual
00:53:03.340 sunshine hours a year obviously annual because this is
00:53:07.460 that Britain gets I can't open notes that Russia gets more
00:53:11.760 sunshine hours than we do right it is sunnier in Russia than
00:53:16.260 it is in England why would you ever mention solar power in
00:53:20.660 this country and the answer is of course because you're
00:53:22.600 ideologically captured right because someone in California
00:53:25.140 as you can see lots of sunshine hours in California
00:53:28.240 someone in California was like hey it's going to be a very
00:53:30.840 progressive thing to have solar power and that will be very good
00:53:33.460 for the environment and it will be progressive and friendly and
00:53:36.440 and blah blah blah blah and so Ed Miliband who's obviously been
00:53:40.040 programmed by Twitter has gone yeah good point we'll do the
00:53:43.280 same not thinking about how ideologies are any relevant in the time and
00:53:46.940 places where they emerge because they are actually concretely attached to
00:53:50.680 the circumstances the physical circumstances of the people who come
00:53:53.300 up with them and so if you're in Britain and someone says solar panel
00:53:57.320 power you know you are speaking to a retard to someone who has no brains
00:54:01.880 and doesn't know what they're talking about because I mean it's not it's
00:54:05.360 not even close it's just not even close this is from the American
00:54:08.620 energy departments uh thing and they've uh they've just got a nice
00:54:13.420 little graph here so what's the most productive form of energy oh it turns
00:54:17.880 out that it's nuclear by a mile it's five four times more productive than
00:54:22.940 solar it's three times more productive than wind because believe it or not at
00:54:26.400 some points the sun doesn't shine and the wind doesn't blow but at all
00:54:30.760 times the nuclear turbine is constantly producing energy and producing
00:54:35.440 steam to run a turbine it's all heated water okay everything all energy
00:54:38.800 production is just heated water um but the the point being it's just not
00:54:43.120 there's no discussion to be had it's completely unscientific to say
00:54:47.000 oh we need solar and wind no you're an ideologue you are someone who has been
00:54:51.460 programmed via twitter with a californian ideology that is
00:54:55.880 fundamentally anti-human because the real reason they don't go for nuclear and
00:54:59.340 this has been a long contention i've had
00:55:00.760 is that nuclear power would mean that the concerns about radical restructuring of
00:55:06.160 our society will go away there's no revolution in nuclear power how can they
00:55:10.580 tear down capitalism with nuclear power nuclear power is going to keep
00:55:13.840 capitalism going until the sun burns out i think that's really their problem any
00:55:19.440 thoughts at this junction before i continue ranting and raving i think
00:55:22.580 nuclear power is the way that's no no contest and the the only danger is that
00:55:31.080 someone will get uh be a di higher inside it that's the only issue i have with
00:55:36.540 nuclear power and that's entirely our own fault if that happens yeah it's not
00:55:41.320 exactly that it hasn't happened widely i mean your point about capitalism
00:55:46.500 interesting because of course france is arguably more left-wing than we are
00:55:50.340 though and they've managed to actually ensure that they that they are the most
00:55:54.220 independent energy independent nation in in europe and you know i think there are
00:55:58.840 56 nuclear reactors in france there are only nine in great britain and we are and
00:56:05.020 just as we invented the railways we are home to the world's first nuclear uh power
00:56:10.840 station or cardwell hall was it or whatever it was called and it just shows you how
00:56:14.920 we've lost that ambition we've lost all of that i often used to say you know when
00:56:18.680 did the greek stop being greek and now we can say when did the british stop being
00:56:22.040 british that great industrious nation and you just have to look at the short termism here
00:56:26.340 also because it was what it was over a decade ago that nick clegg famously said
00:56:30.340 we're not going to build any nuclear power plants it'll take 10 years take 10 years well that would
00:56:35.260 have avoided the entire energy spike that we've seen and that just goes to show you the thinking
00:56:40.220 that actually is in the minds of our leaders the irony the again i intended to be here 10 years
00:56:47.480 later i was here 10 years later nick you know and you know what and even if it wasn't for me even
00:56:51.760 if i somehow died i'd like my children and future generations to have it too like again it it's it's
00:56:57.400 not even a conversation that needs to be had the fact that we have ever entertained the solar and
00:57:03.180 wind lobbies is just preposterous and so the the only thing they have to fall back on is well it
00:57:08.960 sounds scary well the craziest one of all was angela merkel you'll remember in 2016 after the
00:57:14.640 fukushima tsunami she said well because of the tsunami we're going to close on everything that
00:57:19.540 remains in germany which is well known for its plague of tsunamis that descend on it every summer
00:57:25.940 constant constant problem but then they had to go back to coal power plants which would become
00:57:32.900 dependent on russia which both worked out just perfectly both from an environmental perspective
00:57:37.100 if you're really concerned about the global warming of the earth well you've gone back to your coal power
00:57:42.540 plants and you've made yourself dependent on russia who now you you allowed to essentially cripple you
00:57:48.120 when they invaded ukraine so brilliant and do you remember uh trump getting laughed at as well
00:57:52.540 they they laughed in his face when he said why are you making yourselves energy dependent on russia
00:57:57.640 stupid trump yeah who gets the last laugh anyway so let's talk about safety then because the last
00:58:03.280 and most honestly the weakest argument that they come to is well it's it's not safe it's not safe
00:58:08.980 no actually it is it is the the nearly the most safe so every uh every death from accidents and
00:58:17.480 pollution that have come from say coal is 24 deaths per 100 150 000 people with nuclear energy it's 0.03
00:58:25.200 deaths and with solar it's 0.02 deaths so not exactly dangerous and as you can see nuclear energy
00:58:33.020 produces less greenhouse gas emissions so look there's just no argument anyone who mentions solar
00:58:39.160 or wind just wrong on everything they've got no argument and they're trying to fear monger you
00:58:45.000 and there's just no reason not to do it how does one die from solar power is that one of the panels
00:58:50.180 hits you on the head manufacturing i assume or something like that yeah um but again it's it's one of
00:58:56.680 those persistent things that essentially nuclear power deniers have been saying and so the the question is
00:59:02.600 well do we have a good example of a country that actually decided to take up the nuclear baton
00:59:05.860 as rafe has already foreshadowed yes it's france france is doing amazingly with nuclear power and
00:59:11.680 it's genuinely and i'm kind of annoyed they're mogging us on this right they get to lord it over
00:59:18.660 us and say no you stupid anglos are doing the stupid german thing and we the the the brilliant and
00:59:26.200 incredibly lazy french get to indulge our laziness because of our cheap energy generation no i'm pro
00:59:32.160 nuclear for xenophobic reasons okay we need to get one over the french like france gets 70 percent of
00:59:40.120 its energy from nuclear energy right because they've had this long-standing thing and in 2014 when the
00:59:45.580 sort of uh green wave was coming france got it too and they planned to reduce it to only 50 percent
00:59:51.260 and that got scrapped because everyone's okay that's obviously stupid why are we doing that
00:59:54.820 and that worked out really really well for them and so they are a net exporter of electricity at this
01:00:00.500 point and that they export their energy they make three billion euros a year exporting their energy
01:00:06.740 because their energy costs are so abundant and their energy is so their energy costs so low that
01:00:10.940 they can sell it to the germans who are so stupid and block-headed about this subject they have
01:00:16.780 arrived at the point where they're now dependent on the french rather than the russians like what are
01:00:20.960 you doing what are you doing no one needs to be energy dependent on anyone actually at this point
01:00:25.320 and whilst france was building some of its new uh power stations remember gordon brown was
01:00:29.700 closing down our gas storage facilities as well making our energy security even worse
01:00:34.980 it's pure left-wing ideology that is against nuclear power right from a from a normal person's
01:00:40.680 perspective from a scientific perspective it is only nuclear that is the only game in town right
01:00:45.340 and if you think where are we going to get the uranium australia actually australia has
01:00:49.720 i think some of the second or third largest reserves of uranium so and canada does as well
01:00:54.480 there's massive reserves so we don't need to rely on russia for this we're completely dependent on
01:00:59.140 other anglosphere countries nations we can be guaranteed that are going to have a safe and
01:01:03.180 prosperous and welcoming relationship with us we will enrich them they will enrich us we all prosper
01:01:08.140 foreign powers who hate us fail and everyone wins like literally everyone wins there's no argument
01:01:15.500 against this i'm sick of hearing and so as you said britain only has nine nuclear power stations
01:01:20.600 france has yeah 56 and they're building a bunch more or they were building six more just because why
01:01:26.420 not if they're making you money why not you know again like it's actually a growth industry for the
01:01:30.680 french and they've got the most advanced technology these are that and what this does is produce only
01:01:36.000 15 of our nuclear of our energy production which is 6.5 gigawatts so for some reason we're going to
01:01:43.280 spend 40 billion a year producing ineffective inefficient like unreliable solar and wind or
01:01:52.100 we could spend only and in fact spoiler alert to build new power plants would cost between two and
01:01:58.780 three billion so we could literally build 20 new nuclear power plants a year the money they're going
01:02:04.220 to spend it's important to note that the new the new small nuclear reactors are much less expensive
01:02:09.980 much larger indeed uh so they're much easier to create and build yep the the um excuse me the
01:02:16.900 rolls-royce modular nuclear reactors again innovation taking place in britain for some reason this wasn't
01:02:23.380 all over the news and the governments weren't all banging the drum on this uh yeah each one costs
01:02:28.080 between two to three billion to make i'm going to spend 40 billion a year on it anyway why not spend
01:02:32.800 40 billion a year on this the only uh objection i have is the shape of the building that they're
01:02:38.140 proposing uh gothic please let's have it in gothic style um but yeah this is a completely feasible
01:02:45.560 thing to do there's absolutely no reason to do it uh not to do it and finally absolutely finally
01:02:52.920 keir starmer has been forced essentially to come out and go yeah look things in britain are so bad
01:02:58.400 even the labor government are like yeah we're gonna we're gonna start building some nuclear
01:03:02.000 nuclear energy uh we hate to do it because that means that the revolution isn't coming
01:03:06.480 obviously keir starmer lifelong leftist doesn't want this to happen but he has to make it happen
01:03:12.360 one thing that i find quite interesting as well this this became a bit mimetic so i don't know
01:03:17.000 whether you can see here these two cans represent all of the waste that all of the nuclear reactors
01:03:22.700 in britain have ever produced so not much really that's amazing and a lot of people like most of
01:03:29.880 the waste standing either side of the can yes as opposed to those two uh and a lot of people like
01:03:35.320 hmm do i drink the forbidden can um probably not it will literally rot your jaw off um but yeah so
01:03:43.640 anyway uh yeah oddly tempted to know what it tastes like can't can't be good can't be good but so
01:03:50.400 anyway yeah so as we found out recently uh keir starmer has actually finally capitulated on this
01:03:56.060 he's like yeah okay we'll we'll build nuclear if people have to live in britain then we will do it
01:04:02.500 um basically they're going to remove regulations and any uh objections that people have legally
01:04:09.740 and again it's more reason to loathe the tories because they were in power for 14 years they had
01:04:14.260 you know tories are notoriously nimbyist always thinking about it we can't have any power stations here or
01:04:19.880 there we've got the world's most expensive electricity or europe's expensive electricity
01:04:24.220 clear plan here we're giving 18 billion to the chagos islands how many of these smrs could we build
01:04:29.640 without you know uh well literally nine of them we actually have the numbers we could and i forgot to
01:04:35.920 bring up for this but um in in 2022 i think it was the tories commissioned a study to find out well
01:04:42.020 how many would we have to build and it turns out we would have to build six full-size nuclear reactors
01:04:46.700 to power every home in the country right and that would cost about 45 billion something like that
01:04:52.520 is that okay but that that would be worth it like if they were like okay no we're going to build just
01:04:56.540 you know one in each region of the country then essentially i mean you could literally you could
01:05:02.120 have you could run over labor saying look these are going to be government owned so they'll be
01:05:05.760 taxpayer funded and that means you'll never pay an energy bill again in your life right imagine the
01:05:11.200 god that would be incredible could have done it they could have done anything and it's left to
01:05:16.120 essentially being forced into this position because of how bad things are getting in this
01:05:19.600 country to say okay yeah look we're gonna have to go nuclear because loony bloody ed's plan on solar
01:05:25.600 and wind that's not going to last so we're gonna have to do something else otherwise we're all going
01:05:29.820 to go hungry and cold um so yeah basically finally finally some positive news in britain right
01:05:36.380 actually we might not be impoverished just paying for the heating bill during the winter
01:05:41.460 my god how long does it take to build one of these uh not that long either actually um i don't think i
01:05:47.200 have it to hand um but not that long so it could be within a couple of years and we actually see
01:05:54.060 dividends being paid on this um who knows god only knows let's please look because these aren't going
01:06:00.040 to be the full-size ones that the conservatives when they were like oh it'll take 10 years
01:06:02.800 yeah the rolls royce's modular nuclear ones are basically i think i can't remember off the top of my head
01:06:07.940 but it's not 10 years so it could be within a few years we actually get some bonuses and benefits and
01:06:13.000 something good happens in britain for once even under a labor government
01:06:17.800 matt says uh gen 4 nuclear plants can run on nuclear waste of old plants and take half-life from
01:06:23.800 centuries to decades yeah one one thing i didn't point out is that um nearly a fifth of france's
01:06:28.380 nuclear energy is from recycled nuclear waste actually so and that's a process that's getting better and
01:06:34.600 better and better as the iterations of the technology continue so again it's just there's no
01:06:39.320 downside to this uh weirdly they're not going to be run by soviet bureaucrats probably um sigil stone
01:06:47.940 says uh it's been openly admitted multiple times by the left themselves they hate nuclear because it
01:06:51.820 will provide cheap clean energy and won't bring about the global communist revolution yeah that's
01:06:55.720 exactly what it is um do we have video comments today
01:07:00.280 right okay uh charles says oh good rafe he's a jolly fellow and a bmx champ not many people know
01:07:07.600 that you're a bmx champ are you apparently so what is that oh uh the bmx is uh bikes and
01:07:15.500 you know the dirt bikes my last time on a bicycle was when i was 16 years old so perhaps not
01:07:20.440 uh charles i don't appreciate that fake news thank you very much about our guest
01:07:25.280 uh nick taylor says reform looked like containment also unfortunately yes well this is unfortunately one
01:07:34.620 of the downsides to reform is that it is entirely possible uh what people call containment which
01:07:40.700 is essentially uh keeping the blairite project on its rails what do you think about that well
01:07:48.480 maybe yeah better than the tories and labor though isn't it uh henry says uh the vote uh labor vote
01:07:56.600 was a vote of apathy uh the right wing disappeared or flipped reform and the centrist tory wets like
01:08:01.080 roy stewart started to tilt lib dem well no we don't know they didn't vote green uh lib have you seen
01:08:06.980 rory stewart making a public prat of himself recently recently every single time he tweets yeah yeah
01:08:12.460 getting demolished by jd vance and then giving a 110 iq response to this
01:08:18.080 i don't know why anyone listens to the guys and it's not just calling you know kamala harris the
01:08:22.720 winner you remember during when he was running to become prime minister he was very confident he was
01:08:26.680 very confident she was going to win but it's not just that when he was running to become prime
01:08:30.320 minister he's he said famously the eu will never reopen the withdrawal agreement three weeks later the
01:08:36.380 eu opened the withdrawal agreement for boris you know has he ever made a prediction that did come
01:08:40.920 true he's going to be like the uh the guy who predicts the stock markets that now people just run
01:08:45.640 an anti-him tracker uh the anti-kramer tracker or something you know it just goes to show you what
01:08:51.040 an euteronian education can do for self-confidence you know yeah yeah yeah yeah it's it certainly
01:08:56.180 it certainly does do that george says the government is the most powerful institution in most countries
01:09:01.260 they can do whatever they want because they have a monopoly of violence what governments are lacking is
01:09:05.240 will and care for the citizens uh yes but on the plus side the power of selection is still in our
01:09:12.380 hands so we don't have to choose labor or the conservatives we could i mean like you can say
01:09:17.640 a lot of things about nigel farage but one thing that i think is to his credit is that he obviously
01:09:21.360 doesn't hate britain right he's obviously not a hater of britain obviously likes the mythology of
01:09:26.480 britain and loves the country so as wet as he might end up being he's at least not hostile
01:09:32.840 which is a step up but you say we have the right of selection but the fact is you know only 20 percent
01:09:39.620 of the nation actually has for example a twitter account an x account and most of those don't
01:09:44.220 actually look at politics most people still consume the legacy media and until we smash that
01:09:49.320 people actually will continue to believe that he's far right and that there are no underlying causes
01:09:54.900 behind the rise of reform immigration or whatever it is we need to sort of break through that if we're
01:09:59.000 going to have any hope of really having a power to select the next government that is true that is
01:10:03.700 true so basically make sure that all of your friends and family use alternative media send them this
01:10:07.340 podcast uh peter says uh it's more likely that germany keir starmer will attempt to simply ban the
01:10:14.020 reform party now they're not they're not going to do that um the the precedent would be too outrageous
01:10:20.400 nigel farage is too much of a mainstream figure everyone knows who he is uh and i mean banning like
01:10:26.140 even quite radical parties is a bit contentious i don't really like the idea of the current ruling party
01:10:31.480 being able to tell me that that party's out of bounds even if that party is a nutty party i've never
01:10:37.020 vote for uh i don't i don't like the option not impossible to see some reform mps getting
01:10:42.380 non-crime hate incidents though i imagine a lot of pressure being put on them by on the police by
01:10:47.820 the labor government if they're getting worried you know yeah i don't doubt the rupert lowe's got a
01:10:52.100 list of non-crime hate incidents on his record um but that's why he's my favorite reform mp uh russian
01:10:58.420 says uh fantastic first segment i'll do my best to uh up the network of reform folks i'm friends with
01:11:03.660 so it reaches the right people well thank you very much uh henry says uh for me the tory party
01:11:07.880 has a very upper middle class attitude to issues whereas reform strikes me as more every man lower
01:11:13.000 to working middle class version of the world i wonder if that's why the southwest hasn't gone for
01:11:17.280 reform because it's seen as grubby somehow tories don't live in rough communities full of knife
01:11:21.640 crime nor do they get letters from the children's schools saying don't travel alone everything like
01:11:25.960 that is an abstract issue to the tory mp whereas it's daily life for a reform voter yeah there's
01:11:30.400 definitely um i don't want to say stigma because it's not quite the right um well that there's an
01:11:38.760 idea that the the platforms that appeal to reform voters are low status issues and there's a huge
01:11:46.240 amount of snobbery there uh but of course the reality is actually if you look at the reform leader i mean
01:11:51.440 it's an accurate view to make about the reform voters maybe but if you look at the reform leadership
01:11:57.060 they all look like old tories right and they're all they're all millionaire businessmen you know
01:12:01.940 alan bastard's from the new statesman if you remember that old comedy with rick mail uh and i think
01:12:06.560 actually that's part of a problem actually for a lot of people can't relate to the leadership of
01:12:10.420 their own party um even ben habib who was much more in tune with the voters he understood their cause
01:12:15.720 also another pride public school educated millionaire but the this this is the um the interesting thing
01:12:22.100 about the the southwestern the lib dems in the southwest because the southwest isn't anti-capitalist
01:12:27.400 as it were you know i can understand why in the north you would have this kind of sneaking suspicion
01:12:32.680 about the southern capitalist and understandably so but in the southwest we're not like that um and
01:12:38.560 in fact i think that that could be leveraged if it can be done in a genteel enough way um we are
01:12:44.800 quite snobby unfortunately and sensitive um very disappointing frankly uh i'm not going to read
01:12:52.800 out that name but uh it's entirely possible that labor the lib dems the greens and the smp form a
01:12:57.160 coalition together they're already very ideologically close the threat of a reform government could be
01:13:01.360 enough to get them together well i mean that is a potential danger on the horizon but i actually
01:13:07.540 think the zia yusuf is right i think they're going to form a majority i think they could get 350 400
01:13:12.260 seats it's really not beyond the realms possibility and they're they again we're only six months into
01:13:18.480 the labor government i mean imagine when two years in of kia starmer screwing the country relentlessly
01:13:24.020 every goddamn day and then coming out every time there's a terror attack essentially saying shut up
01:13:28.700 far right like sorry kia we all hate you already um good to see rafe back in swindon was nice to see
01:13:36.100 you at the united kingdom rally in the sweltering heat last year cheers for walking the crowd after it was a
01:13:41.000 pleasure it was great i didn't realize you were there yes no no i was that that was the day that
01:13:45.580 tommy robinson played his videos of the crowd you were on stage that day but i walked around i thought
01:13:51.020 it was important you know to engage with people there well one thing that uh david starkey made
01:13:55.780 a great observation about it was like um when when it's mostly men it's the football lads out doing
01:14:02.140 something trivial it's not very important but when their wives come out with them then you can tell
01:14:06.840 there's a real issue brewing and that was one of the things that really struck me is
01:14:11.320 the crowd was about half women it was very very gender balanced and so it was like okay
01:14:17.100 i think starkey's dictum there is correct there's a real problem that these people are responding to
01:14:21.880 which is why i take part in them you know i i agree it is a real problem everything's a real problem
01:14:27.000 um hector says love having rafe on the show his levity and wit is always welcome
01:14:31.560 thank you uh fuzzy toaster says the political class is unfit for purpose they need to learn to code
01:14:37.180 warlord wu tutai says rafe's point about japan unfortunately they have recently caved on
01:14:41.500 immigration and started to allow it it's only a matter of time until the first truck of peace
01:14:45.600 now i often hear this and also people in poland tell me well we're also going the same way
01:14:49.860 i mean this is all about scale yes they do have more immigration but we're talking about a very
01:14:54.800 different uh factor compared to what we've experienced in the west i mean as i said to you for example just
01:14:59.440 looking at the polish thing by 2050 20 percent of this country will be muslim 30 percent of sweden
01:15:04.880 in poland's will be 0.2 percent well the the the concern though is that the foot's in the door now
01:15:11.820 right and so a left-wing politician will say look we already do this i'm just going to double it and
01:15:16.500 double it japan is so homogenous they've got such a strong sense of their own culture and identity and
01:15:20.880 as i say once ai and robotics the main thing in japan as in here is who's going to look after our
01:15:26.060 elderly health care social care increasingly now that can be done by robots and automation
01:15:31.060 and with ai so i think that the uh you know it's a 20 30 year project to change a nation demographically
01:15:37.620 by that point i think the solutions will be there i do hope so but again like everything you're saying
01:15:42.720 could have been said about britain 50 years ago yeah but japan has a very different notion of self
01:15:47.740 and it is it is based it's it's a it's a racial concept of the nation well fingers crossed that
01:15:53.880 they they don't go down the road that we've gone down uh kevin says kemi is the tory's version of
01:15:58.920 kamala if they seriously wanted to win they'd choose someone who'd ruffle the feathers amongst the old
01:16:02.840 tory sweats uh to be honest with you i thought they should have gone for gemrick um obviously uh but
01:16:08.300 mostly gemrick the thing is though gemrick isn't charismatic and one one one thing that um
01:16:17.060 you realize after covering politics for long enough it's really just about likability
01:16:21.800 kemi is not likable if she was a very charming person who people just liked being around it
01:16:28.020 wouldn't matter that she was african that wouldn't matter at all and i suppose you could say that
01:16:32.060 actually maybe it's better to have kemi there because it just shortens the period of pain before
01:16:35.940 we only have one right-wing party yes if gemrick was there maybe we've probably prolonged for a
01:16:39.960 decade or so this might hasten the tory's death yeah no absolutely i mean gemrick went quite far
01:16:45.840 out of bounds in some ways as well saying we need to talk about english identity and things like that
01:16:49.980 i mean these are genuine things that need to be spoken about absolutely i think it's a yeah i mean
01:16:53.820 it's a pity he didn't say it years ago but i'm always inclined to believe people can have
01:16:57.820 damascene conversion some people think it's an act but i think it's genuine on his part
01:17:01.340 yeah i agree i think it was genuine as well um but i totally agree with you uh i'd rather he lost
01:17:07.600 and the tories just die off uh jimbo says the bbc are currently running a puff piece about how scared
01:17:13.120 sweden swedish immigrants are in light of that horrific shooting ah yes the real victims of
01:17:18.240 immigrant violence maybe they should stop shooting each other then the immigrants yes uh next time
01:17:22.980 there's an islamic atrocity i'm sure they'll be platforming the natives expressing concern about
01:17:26.320 muslims decimating europe uh well they could have done that for years now couldn't they
01:17:30.340 lord nerevar says i work in a libtardy environment and even my colleagues admit that trump is seriously
01:17:36.600 impressive in the way he conducts his government they hate his guts but they know what he is yeah
01:17:41.840 just as with thatcher you know admire her without loving her yeah you have to respect this
01:17:47.940 yeah and uh this was the main otherwise yeah you're just a tiktok activist yeah but this this is the
01:17:54.580 main concern that people had during his first tenure we didn't do anything okay well he's doing
01:17:58.260 it all now so uh kevin says uh how to improve the british police all dei hires hand in their hats
01:18:04.540 and batons and clear off you kevin you're showing your age there you think they've got hats and
01:18:09.760 batons they don't have high vis vests my friend uh no degree required to join the police and gain
01:18:15.940 promotion only male officers over six foot female officers over five for eight allowed such a wet um
01:18:22.180 all officers must pass the rigs at rigorous physical and medical examination application
01:18:26.220 and annually thereafter offer service in the police as an option for ex-military personnel
01:18:30.040 as a form of reserve service i mean that would definitely go a long way to to improving the
01:18:34.000 situation yeah but there should no women in uh frontline roles there should no women patrolling
01:18:38.520 the streets also no no one that looks like me should be patrolling the streets either you know do
01:18:43.260 admin roles report when someone's child has died or whatever but too many scenes of people
01:18:48.000 trying to apprehend a criminal who just laughs at them and runs off you know bring back the
01:18:52.660 constabulary uh omar says i absolutely do not trust faraj while he remains net zero level
01:18:58.620 soft on soft soft on immigration but the real politique of the situation is that you can say
01:19:03.560 nothing four years and coast to victory in a uni party fatigue alone being funded by zia yusuf
01:19:08.120 doesn't bode well for our chances you'll disenfranchise let alone oust foreign voting blocs
01:19:12.980 um yeah like i don't think reform represent uh the sort of um radical change that people are
01:19:20.120 looking for on the right but i do think there's better than nothing so better than having another
01:19:26.700 four or five years of labor and tories right so and who knows you know maybe trump will put a bit
01:19:32.060 pressure on him and say look just get on with it you know sort things out get on with it yeah
01:19:38.160 exactly um apparently yeah yeah yeah yeah again like i can't believe how kia starmer is constantly
01:19:46.780 dropping the ball like trump came out and said yeah i'm going to tariff you up i'm not going to
01:19:49.800 tariff britain though i like britain what are you doing kia get on the blur be like donald can i take
01:19:55.000 you up for a mcdonald's you know and he'll he'll go for it like chum again i kiss time it looks like a
01:20:01.200 shark doesn't he he's got the dead eyes of shark like he's got no emotive nature to him he's got
01:20:08.300 no personality it's hard to know what his wife loves about him right like normally you can identify
01:20:13.940 why a woman would be into a guy like that but you're like he's like a robot um anyway michael
01:20:19.500 says i spent 30 years working with emergency management around nuclear power plants uh the
01:20:23.560 output on these small uh footprint plants is just astronomical literally two gigawatts of
01:20:29.060 electricity from one reactor now we're discussing micro reactors small modular reactors that could
01:20:33.520 literally power entire towns off one reactor creating home grids in small town cities yeah
01:20:37.780 that's uh something i didn't get into is that the um the the modular reactors are something like 500
01:20:42.260 gigawatts of energy which is enough i mean literally it's one large town would just get one
01:20:47.200 plant and then you've got a network of plants that are kind of independent from one another so if
01:20:53.020 one goes out well then it's only one town that loses energy and you just replace it quickly
01:20:57.240 uh it's again what you would do if you wanted the country to succeed but of course the green
01:21:01.780 lobby hates us they want us to die so that's why they're against it uh jimbo says nothing has
01:21:07.640 hurt the perception of nuclear power more than the simpsons um yes and no i feel the simpsons
01:21:13.860 kind of domesticated the idea of nuclear power plants i think it's the three-eyed fish he's talking about
01:21:18.580 yeah so yeah yes and no but um yeah the the again this is uh it's a long-running bugbear of mine that
01:21:28.640 we even have this conversation about power generation the answer's been solved uh baron
01:21:32.680 from warhawk says i heard something similar from leftists on my college campus they were saying
01:21:36.520 mining on the moon and mars is immoral because it would just destroy the environment and ruin
01:21:41.180 these places natural beauty the natural beauty of mars i mean it is beautiful but there's enough space
01:21:50.860 you know i i i think this is overhyped i think mars is ugly it's it's just a desert a waste i disagree
01:21:58.240 yeah i know yeah there's there's nothing there there's no it's just rock and dust go to the grand canyon
01:22:04.900 if you want yeah uh henry says energies is one of the area energy is one of the areas of science i
01:22:12.220 find most infuriating it has been polluted by the political concept of the science as if it is some
01:22:18.220 fixed eternal outcome that can never be questioned never be reinterpreted and never invalidated someone
01:22:23.400 decided that the green solutions were best but metrics like cost per kilowatt hour the initial carbon
01:22:28.760 overhead of manufacturing and maintaining the infrastructure or how things are decommissioned at
01:22:32.700 the end of their life plus for things like vehicles battery tech is unfit for use in a lot of sectors
01:22:36.480 you can't replace 747 with an electric plane or way too much for example solar panels take up a lot of
01:22:41.420 space and use rare materials that are required to pay a tithe to china and basically end up in a landfill
01:22:46.000 when we're done with them onshore wind turbines kill a lot of wildlife for the yeah have you seen those
01:22:50.580 like birds with their wings chopped off and it's it's like oh this was an eagle i hate it it just really
01:22:58.800 annoys me but yeah and again the fact that a lot of these are just non-recyclable as well so they go
01:23:03.520 in landfills so this whole thing was again in in 50 years time we're going to look back on this and
01:23:08.940 think what are we doing why are we doing any of this um nuclear tidal and a lot of other technologies
01:23:15.300 like synthetic fuels have a lot of legs but for political reasons they're dismissed entirely entirely
01:23:21.180 political annoys me um alpha the beta says if climate change was an imminent political threat
01:23:26.520 we would commit to a crash program of carbon nuclear and carbon neutral nuclear power and figure
01:23:32.320 out the problem of nuclear waste later well there isn't really a problem because it's such a small
01:23:36.800 amount that like we've got uninhabited scottish islands we'd be able to fill up for like a million
01:23:41.860 years if we wanted to in these containers so it's not a problem i mean they can't use the the this as an
01:23:49.460 excuse for not doing anything yeah that's the world is constantly ending yeah constantly just yeah
01:23:56.300 i mean that's entirely the problem but uh but anyway we'll leave the whining about nuclear power
01:24:00.860 there i i'm it's again it's a personal bugbear of mine i just it makes me seethe that i have to pay
01:24:06.740 the electric bill every week every month um but right right so rafe um what is it you're doing at
01:24:12.140 the moment and where can people can people find more from you um well you can watch me every saturday
01:24:16.760 morning on the new culture forum youtube channel uh otherwise i have my own youtube channel where all my
01:24:21.960 other media appearances are posted and of course on x which i still call twitter at raf hm so what
01:24:29.560 what is it that you're um focusing on most at the moment intellectually uh well i'm uh in the process
01:24:35.220 of writing a book which should be the first of a series of books on uh essentially uh giving the
01:24:41.220 correcting the myths on history so uh my first one is essentially 10 myths about churchill which i know
01:24:47.740 a lot of your viewers and some of your team perhaps will disagree with me on you know but
01:24:51.480 correcting a lot of the prevailing myths uh on the left and right on on that uh and then doing my
01:24:58.100 usual stuff that i'm doing on immigration and islam and everything else so can you give me one of the
01:25:02.640 most prominent myths is i've i'm very tired of the discourse surrounding churchill world war ii and
01:25:08.720 adolf hitler because it boils down to well churchill was on the winning side of world war ii
01:25:13.840 hitler would have prevented woke ideology and mass immigration therefore hitler is responsible for
01:25:20.220 d uh churchill is responsible for dei and would essentially be a communist which is of course not
01:25:25.000 what is representative of churchill yeah well of course it's it's ridiculous to blame the policies
01:25:29.740 of tony blair and subsequent governments on you know a man who died in 1965 and who left office in the
01:25:36.160 1950s there's no possible way you can connect the two of those you have well you know every policy
01:25:41.500 is a is a creature of its own time you know it's up to other generations to change policies or
01:25:46.580 whatever he never had any vision of how britain was going to end up or turn out the idea that
01:25:52.580 churchill dragged america into the into the uh second world war he tried his best to get them in but it
01:25:58.000 was actually the japanese people may remember december the 7th who actually uh brought uh and then
01:26:04.120 germany declared war on america churchill had no responsibility for any of that also the idea that you
01:26:09.820 know of daryl cooper it was interviewed by tucker carlson that churchill was the villain of the
01:26:14.200 second war i can see myself losing a lot of people every time i talk about this about one third of my
01:26:19.440 normal normal supporters turn against me but uh this is the reason i brought it up just at the end
01:26:25.280 here is because it's something i see all the time and like i'm i'm as conversant with churchill as
01:26:30.660 anyone who's done british history in school which is not very um but uh by by modern standards
01:26:37.660 churchill would have been as far right and reactionary as it comes but there's no way he'd
01:26:42.100 agree with it well you know the the left are accusing accusing of racism and killing off all
01:26:47.320 these people in the bengal famine and then someone on the right and now saying well just thanks to him
01:26:51.020 you've got massive immigration you can't have it both ways either he's one or the other and the idea
01:26:56.080 that you could have sued for peace with hitler is a complete nonsense this is the other argument put
01:27:00.160 forward that churchill should never have allied with with the soviet union and this was a huge mistake
01:27:04.560 churchill you know from the moment of the revolution said we should strangle the baby
01:27:09.260 bolshevism in its cradle and in 1945 he wanted the americans and the british and the canadians and the
01:27:15.920 poles to carry on the war against the red army push the red army out of berlin out of germany out of
01:27:21.860 poland you know he saw the threat from from the soviet union more than anybody else did 1946 fulton
01:27:27.600 missouri from stetson in the baltic to trieste in the adriatic and iron curtain has descended nobody was a
01:27:33.200 bigger foe of of communism but the reality was as khrushchev and stalin both admitted had it not been
01:27:39.840 for for for russia for american and british aid russia would have collapsed and fallen and uh the fact is
01:27:47.060 if russia had collapsed then the axis powers would have controlled europe middle east oil fields africa
01:27:53.280 asia and australia australasia and then britain would have been a vassal state and eventually you know
01:27:58.500 because hitler had napoleonic uh and alexander the great and julius caesar uh delusions and he would
01:28:03.920 he wanted to achieve what napoleon never did conquer russia and conquer britain the the point
01:28:09.200 being though is that if uh churchill was brought to here and now uh he would be a radical far rightist by
01:28:16.740 any modern standards he would be completely against mass immigration as he was in his own time he'd be
01:28:22.560 completely against communism as he was in his own time and i'm not in any way suggesting that
01:28:27.480 churchill was perfect i don't think he was a great far from perfect and i'm not even talking
01:28:31.300 on a personal level i think he was a terrible strategist uh i i think he's he made a series
01:28:35.720 of military blunders but so what a lot of people did the point being i don't think he you can draw a
01:28:41.460 direct line between him and woke dei stuff and lay it at his feet again let i'm happy to oppose the
01:28:48.080 women's suffrage for example like churchill was kind of our reactionary in a lot of ways actually so i i am
01:28:56.140 kind of annoyed to see him getting thrown so hard under the bus especially when there are much more
01:29:00.440 germane people to the actual problem tony blair boris johnson anyway i'm not going to go on but the
01:29:06.640 the point being churchill was not nearly as bad as people on the internet are making him out to be
01:29:10.320 and he has a lot more in common with what we believe the way the world should be than what the
01:29:15.340 left believe yeah look there are many legitimate reasons to criticize him on his policy on india his
01:29:20.020 abdication crisis tying britain to the gold standard all of these the gallipoli the dardanelles
01:29:25.460 lots of issues but those are fine these ones and on from the left the bengal famine and all of this
01:29:31.560 there's no legs to that whatsoever yeah i agree i looked into that because i was thinking oh that's
01:29:35.440 a bit weird and then it turns out no it's nonsense uh unsurprisingly but anyway so uh on that note go
01:29:40.440 follow rafe on his various socials uh thanks for joining us and we'll be back in half an hour for
01:29:44.340 lads hour where i believe we are rating english kings uh so that should be fun see you then
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