The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1096

00:00:00.000 Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for Friday, the 7th of February, 2025.

00:00:06.020 It's Friday, so the best day of the week. I'm joined by Stelios and Rafe Manku.

00:00:10.960 Sorry, how do I pronounce your name?

00:00:12.460 Rafe Hadel Manku.

00:00:13.680 Rafe Hadel Manku. I'm really sorry. I'm terrible with names. I can barely speak English.

00:00:17.320 This is a microaggression number one.

00:00:22.240 Yes, it is.

00:00:24.740 Anyway, today we're going to be talking about how reform are looking inevitable

00:00:28.160 and the difference between governments that will do something and won't do something

00:00:31.360 and just want to manage the decline

00:00:33.300 and how finally Britain might actually start taking nuclear power seriously.

00:00:38.500 A drum I've been banging for quite some time.

00:00:40.680 But honestly, I'm just so frustrated by the radical activism that surrounds energy production

00:00:48.320 that it's just one of those things that finally we're going to get the Gordian knot cut.

00:00:52.860 Anyway, right, let's begin.

00:00:53.840 So, seven months ago I made a video saying,

00:00:57.320 look, Nigel Farage may well end up as Prime Minister of this country.

00:01:01.060 Whether you like him or loathe him, it looks like there is a lot of energy behind him

00:01:05.680 and he is playing a wise game, actually, in what he's doing,

00:01:11.160 again, whether you agree with him or not.

00:01:12.740 And this seems to be paying off.

00:01:15.080 And the more time passes, the more it looks like the prediction in this video...

00:01:20.760 I try not to make predictions, but I can't help it sometimes.

00:01:24.700 The prediction in this video is going to come to pass

00:01:26.840 because only a few weeks ago, the end of January,

00:01:31.860 Labour were barely in the lead in various polls in the UK.

00:01:38.340 And then reform started coming ahead.

00:01:42.360 And again, this is January the 30th.

00:01:44.980 Coming ahead in polls that are not polls done by right-wing friendly pollsters.

00:01:52.260 For example, Find Out Now, very milquetoast.

00:01:56.320 Stats for Lefties has posted a YouGov poll here.

00:01:59.480 YouGov being famously slanted in One Direction because it's an online poller.

00:02:03.780 It happens to get a lot of left-wing people signing up for it.

00:02:07.460 Again, self-selected online polls.

00:02:09.140 But even in that, reform are ahead of the Labour Party

00:02:13.380 and significantly ahead of the Conservative Party.

00:02:17.520 And so that must be great news for Nigel.

00:02:19.720 It must be bad news for the establishment.

00:02:21.660 And it keeps getting worse.

00:02:23.540 But let's pause on this for a minute.

00:02:25.300 So this, again, was about the beginning of this week, actually.

00:02:32.220 And so that's going to result in a hung parliament.

00:02:36.640 Yeah, I mean, let's be clear here, right?

00:02:40.680 Labour has a stonking majority of 440-odd seats.

00:02:44.920 They have two-thirds of the seats in parliament,

00:02:47.020 despite only having one-third of the vote share, 33% they've got.

00:02:51.340 In fact, since the Second World War,

00:02:53.500 no government has been elected with the majority of the votes.

00:02:56.680 You only need to have around a third under first-past-the-post.

00:02:59.740 So there is a clear path to power.

00:03:02.440 We're still in early days.

00:03:03.880 I mean, the amount by which support for reform has increased in just a few months,

00:03:08.460 they could easily find themselves well within,

00:03:11.000 well over 35% or so by the time we get to the next election.

00:03:15.420 And it should be a wake-up call.

00:03:16.860 I mean, look, the reality is, you know,

00:03:19.020 60% of this country still votes for left-wing parties.

00:03:22.060 The only reason we've had a number of Conservative governments

00:03:24.440 is because there's only been one party on the right.

00:03:26.280 The left-wing votes split between SNP, Lib Dem, Greens, Labour, Plaid Cymru and so forth.

00:03:31.420 And we always thought we couldn't have two parties on the right

00:03:34.820 because you would never have a Conservative government

00:03:37.160 or a right-leaning government again.

00:03:39.280 Reform has shown that you can do that

00:03:40.840 because reform is actually taking votes not just from the Tories,

00:03:44.240 it's taking them from Labour.

00:03:46.060 And fundamentally important here,

00:03:48.320 three million people who didn't vote at all in 2024 have come over.

00:03:52.780 It also puts a lie to those wet Tories who said,

00:03:56.480 oh, no, no, during the Prime Ministerial campaign,

00:03:58.720 oh, we need to, you know, we forget about reform,

00:04:00.500 we need to lean more to the Lib Dems and get those votes.

00:04:02.720 Well, we know only 180,000 people who left the Tory party

00:04:07.920 went over to the Lib Dems.

00:04:09.360 1.2 million went to reform.

00:04:12.240 It is actually reform that's now setting the agenda.

00:04:15.220 That's why you're seeing now,

00:04:17.200 Kimi Badenoch finally setting her sights

00:04:19.400 and giving us at least one policy on immigration.

00:04:21.380 Milquetoast, though it still is,

00:04:23.800 to try and counter reform.

00:04:27.580 You know, Rupert Lowe I spoke with in November,

00:04:29.680 well, October last year,

00:04:30.680 and he said very confidently,

00:04:31.880 we're going to form the next government.

00:04:33.420 I thought that was hugely optimistic,

00:04:35.120 although not impossible,

00:04:36.400 but I think he was obviously seeing stuff

00:04:38.660 that I wasn't privy to at the time.

00:04:41.380 Sorry, go on, sir.

00:04:42.100 Oh, I just wanted to say that a lot of Labour defenders and advocates,

00:04:47.420 they forget that the Labour vote was a vote of,

00:04:50.700 let's say, dissatisfaction with the Tories.

00:04:54.040 It wasn't a vote for love for Starmer's agenda.

00:04:57.760 Well, you know, I'm not even persuaded by that, to be honest.

00:05:01.500 That is the sort of common narrative,

00:05:03.020 but I don't think that Conservative voters tend to go over to Labour.

00:05:07.600 And we can see this through the paucity of votes

00:05:11.500 that Labour got in the last election.

00:05:12.980 I mean, out of all of the voters who could have voted,

00:05:15.560 Labour got a fifth of them.

00:05:17.880 What happens with right-wing voters

00:05:20.500 is they don't vote for Labour as a protest.

00:05:22.580 They just don't vote at all.

00:05:24.640 And so we, in the last election,

00:05:26.300 we saw that 40% of the entire potential voter base

00:05:28.840 just didn't vote,

00:05:30.060 presumably out of massive dissatisfaction.

00:05:33.000 And so Nigel Farage had come in

00:05:35.620 and cut the legs out from underneath the Conservative Party,

00:05:38.900 which, under first-past-the-post,

00:05:40.540 puts Labour, with their third of the vote share

00:05:42.620 in each constituency, over the top,

00:05:45.700 giving them this huge majority,

00:05:47.020 and then underneath the simmering fight

00:05:49.060 between Conservatives and reform.

00:05:51.560 And the Conservatives are very clearly losing that.

00:05:54.280 And to be honest with you, I'm quite glad.

00:05:55.580 The Conservatives have presided over

00:05:57.780 possibly the biggest betrayal of the British electorate

00:06:00.680 that's ever happened.

00:06:02.500 Hard to think of anyone who'd done more damage

00:06:05.340 to the country than Boris Johnson, actually.

00:06:07.460 And that's something to say,

00:06:08.460 given what Tony Blair ushered into this country.

00:06:10.820 And of course, whenever, you know,

00:06:11.820 for years when we discussed the plight of mass immigration,

00:06:14.700 we always cited Tony Blair

00:06:16.360 as being the most dangerous Prime Minister we've ever had.

00:06:19.440 Well, I'm sorry, what he did pales in comparison

00:06:21.700 to what a Conservative government did

00:06:23.860 in terms of immigration.

00:06:25.680 Not just the numbers, but also the sources

00:06:27.620 of the immigrants who were coming here.

00:06:29.540 And there can be no greater crime, I would think,

00:06:31.760 than actually, you know, in my view,

00:06:34.560 signing the death warrant of this nation.

00:06:36.900 It's really hard to contest that.

00:06:39.060 Which suggests several commonalities

00:06:40.800 in the practice agenda.

00:06:42.900 Well, I have a bit of a difference there.

00:06:45.000 We know why Labour wanted mass immigration, 1.00

00:06:47.360 in large part because 80% of ethnic minorities

00:06:50.000 vote for the Labour Party.

00:06:51.280 So the thinking there was,

00:06:52.660 if we import millions of people,

00:06:54.100 remember Peter Mandelson sent out search parties

00:06:56.040 looking for immigrants.

00:06:57.280 The idea was, in the decades to come,

00:06:59.200 you would have a new demographic

00:07:00.320 that would ensure that the Labour Party

00:07:02.020 had majorities in all the elections.

00:07:03.920 And if you look at London,

00:07:05.160 you look at Birmingham and these places,

00:07:06.660 these are essentially becoming one-party states, right?

00:07:09.060 With the Tories, it was rather different

00:07:10.720 because the Tories were beholden to big business

00:07:13.220 and the CBI and so forth.

00:07:14.840 And big business, rather than invest

00:07:16.940 in expensive capital infrastructure,

00:07:19.420 you know, job automation, mechanisation,

00:07:22.420 machines that can pick apples and orchards

00:07:23.960 and so forth, they decided to flood the nation

00:07:25.980 with cheap labour, which would suppress wages

00:07:28.380 and negate the need for that costly investment,

00:07:31.320 which is why we're in the mess we're in now.

00:07:33.540 That's why I sort of think Japan,

00:07:34.920 everyone said, well, you know, Japan,

00:07:36.680 the oldest population in the world,

00:07:39.140 it needs immigration.

00:07:40.260 I think they may come out of this

00:07:41.520 as actually being the sanest people of all

00:07:43.400 because AI, robotics and healthcare,

00:07:46.020 social work and so forth,

00:07:47.380 may actually come in the end of the day

00:07:48.760 to save Japan.

00:07:50.460 That should have been the model we went down.

00:07:52.700 Oh, absolutely.

00:07:53.720 So just on this map,

00:07:55.140 I think this is fascinating.

00:07:56.700 I mean, if you look at the north of England,

00:07:58.160 which is normally just completely red,

00:08:01.260 not only is it not red at all,

00:08:04.220 but it's also giving over to the Conservatives

00:08:06.560 by this prediction,

00:08:07.460 which I think is fascinating.

00:08:09.960 So the Labour vote has collapsed so utterly,

00:08:12.180 it's now a scramble for the north,

00:08:13.740 for the Reform Party and the Conservative Party,

00:08:17.100 which are, of course,

00:08:18.040 not parties you would normally have associated with them.

00:08:20.800 And I think it's very optimistic

00:08:23.840 to think that the Conservatives

00:08:25.160 would be able to win that as well

00:08:26.300 because there's,

00:08:27.640 I think there's something about Nigel Farage

00:08:31.780 that is a kind of totemic Englishman.

00:08:33.940 He is, in many ways,

00:08:36.140 appealing on those grounds.

00:08:38.380 And he's got an unpretentious image,

00:08:46.240 I think,

00:08:46.820 when he's in the pub

00:08:47.800 and associating with people,

00:08:49.460 that is something that really does

00:08:51.540 actually swing people.

00:08:52.820 And I think a lot of people's love of Donald Trump

00:08:55.000 is,

00:08:55.320 oh, he's a lot like me.

00:08:56.640 Whether you like it or not,

00:08:57.780 representation actually does matter.

00:08:59.740 And I think that perhaps choosing

00:09:01.700 Kemi Badenok

00:09:02.480 as the leader of the Conservative Party

00:09:04.620 isn't going to swing those guys over, 0.99

00:09:06.380 not because they hate black people 0.99

00:09:08.160 or something like that, 0.77

00:09:09.320 but just because they don't see themselves in her.

00:09:12.160 Farage has good energy

00:09:13.300 and you need good energy to win elections,

00:09:15.640 Badenok just doesn't have it.

00:09:17.440 Yeah.

00:09:18.080 I think that's quite,

00:09:18.980 it's a good point you make then.

00:09:20.020 And I think that is their sort of strategy here

00:09:22.180 because, you know,

00:09:23.220 people, your viewers at home,

00:09:24.940 my view is the new cultural forum,

00:09:26.300 we all want reform and Farage

00:09:28.060 to be much stronger

00:09:29.460 on things like immigration.

00:09:31.060 And we're hugely disappointed

00:09:32.200 that he's not.

00:09:33.240 I often cite the statistic that,

00:09:34.980 you know,

00:09:35.160 men under 44 in this country

00:09:36.700 are more likely to vote for Trump

00:09:37.880 than for Farage.

00:09:39.220 But obviously,

00:09:40.220 what they're doing is winning.

00:09:41.920 And you have to remember

00:09:42.800 that we actually,

00:09:44.020 those people,

00:09:44.520 people who hold our views,

00:09:45.540 unfortunately,

00:09:46.000 we're still in the minority.

00:09:46.900 And Farage is speaking

00:09:48.820 to the great population as a whole.

00:09:51.680 And I almost think

00:09:52.560 it's like a good cop,

00:09:53.480 bad cop or a tag team duo

00:09:55.300 between him and Rupert Lowe.

00:09:56.780 Rupert Lowe doesn't have

00:09:57.560 national recognition.

00:09:58.440 People don't really know him

00:09:59.200 in the country,

00:10:00.000 but our people know him.

00:10:01.600 He is speaking our language.

00:10:02.860 So we feel someone's fighting

00:10:04.500 our corner in reform

00:10:05.580 and Nigel speaking to the rest

00:10:07.240 of the nation who think,

00:10:08.460 oh, actually,

00:10:08.780 reform's not that bad.

00:10:09.860 And I think that might be

00:10:10.620 the reasoning there.

00:10:12.040 It's actually a winning strategy

00:10:14.060 and it's clearly working.

00:10:15.840 One thing I'm approval,

00:10:17.500 one thing I really approve of

00:10:18.660 is how this is causing chaos

00:10:21.260 in both Labour

00:10:21.980 and the Conservatives.

00:10:23.200 So it was reported recently

00:10:24.960 that CCHQ staff

00:10:26.740 are holding a crisis meeting

00:10:28.040 today of the lack of funding

00:10:29.340 of the current polling situation.

00:10:31.340 And so they don't really

00:10:32.280 know what to do.

00:10:33.700 And Kemi Badenok

00:10:34.760 didn't exactly show

00:10:36.340 a great deal of leadership

00:10:37.520 on this

00:10:38.320 because she just told them

00:10:39.640 to quit if they can't deliver

00:10:40.980 on fundraising or campaigning.

00:10:43.260 One campaign manager

00:10:44.280 apparently said,

00:10:45.000 how can we campaign

00:10:45.680 when we've got no policies

00:10:46.580 to campaign on?

00:10:47.540 Which presumably is the source

00:10:49.360 of the very milquetoast,

00:10:51.300 if they've been here for 10 years

00:10:52.900 rather than five years,

00:10:53.820 we'll give them visas.

00:10:54.880 It's like,

00:10:55.280 why are we giving any,

00:10:56.440 why are they here?

00:10:57.600 Why are they here?

00:10:58.260 They can go home.

00:10:59.140 They've got homes of their own.

00:11:00.280 That's where they belong.

00:11:01.480 And the irony is,

00:11:02.180 if they want a raft of policies,

00:11:03.400 they just have to look

00:11:04.080 at Robert Jenrick's Twitter feed

00:11:05.320 to find all the policies

00:11:07.000 that actually would actually

00:11:08.520 have increased

00:11:09.140 their polling numbers

00:11:11.720 very clearly.

00:11:13.060 And of course,

00:11:13.360 as we on the right

00:11:14.000 were hoping for,

00:11:15.720 the reform and the Tories

00:11:17.640 would try to outflank each other

00:11:19.080 and Jenrick could have pulled

00:11:20.820 Farage actually more to the right,

00:11:22.580 which is a great deal.

00:11:23.740 But I'm sure the Tories

00:11:24.460 are feeling bias remorse.

00:11:25.740 I'm just amazed

00:11:26.380 that there's still anybody

00:11:27.120 in the north of England

00:11:27.780 who would vote for the Tory party,

00:11:29.500 having been betrayed,

00:11:30.460 not only on immigration,

00:11:31.300 but on levelling up

00:11:32.140 and everything else.

00:11:33.420 I mean,

00:11:33.600 you know,

00:11:33.880 the definition of insanity

00:11:35.020 is to keep voting

00:11:35.740 for the same...

00:11:36.580 Conservatives are creatures

00:11:37.760 of habit.

00:11:39.180 That is very...

00:11:40.140 That's a sad truth.

00:11:40.760 Definitely true, yeah.

00:11:42.280 But yeah,

00:11:43.120 no,

00:11:43.340 that's a great point

00:11:44.180 because there are so many things

00:11:45.460 on which the Conservatives

00:11:46.540 have just betrayed everyone.

00:11:48.700 And I don't want to give them

00:11:50.800 the benefit of the doubt,

00:11:51.500 but it really just seems

00:11:52.180 like weakness to me.

00:11:53.680 I'm sure that most

00:11:54.840 of the Conservative Party members

00:11:56.720 and most of their MPs

00:11:58.640 in the sort of generic mould

00:12:00.060 aren't people who hate

00:12:01.720 the United Kingdom

00:12:02.380 and want the worst for it.

00:12:03.760 I just can't help but notice 0.99

00:12:05.580 they don't seem to have any balls. 0.98

00:12:07.540 They can't stand up for anything. 0.99

00:12:09.540 And when they do,

00:12:10.220 they get kind of defence...

00:12:11.080 Well,

00:12:11.240 not defence rate,

00:12:11.840 but selected against

00:12:13.180 in the way that Jemreq was.

00:12:14.840 Well,

00:12:15.040 and just remember

00:12:15.580 that the average Tory MP

00:12:17.220 is to the left

00:12:18.340 of the average British person

00:12:20.220 on immigration.

00:12:21.800 That says it all.

00:12:22.820 Also,

00:12:23.240 of course,

00:12:23.520 remember,

00:12:24.260 the Tory party

00:12:24.800 isn't a Conservative party.

00:12:26.040 It's a neoliberal party

00:12:27.420 full of free market extremists

00:12:29.980 who don't believe

00:12:30.500 in borders either,

00:12:31.420 who are globalists.

00:12:33.060 You know,

00:12:33.200 the clue...

00:12:33.820 Conservatism,

00:12:34.840 the clue is in the name.

00:12:35.980 It's about conserving society.

00:12:37.540 Every strata of society,

00:12:38.720 every class...

00:12:39.240 Yeah,

00:12:39.360 the class called Conservatism.

00:12:39.940 ...needs to be protected,

00:12:40.680 you know.

00:12:41.080 That's not true conservatism

00:12:42.480 in Birkian ways.

00:12:43.340 It's not Scrutonian conservatism.

00:12:45.100 And the party should be renamed,

00:12:46.500 actually.

00:12:46.620 Well, 1.00

00:12:46.760 it should die, 1.00

00:12:47.340 perhaps, 1.00

00:12:48.000 whilst it's being renamed.

00:12:49.920 Well,

00:12:50.240 speaking of it dying,

00:12:51.980 they clearly feel

00:12:53.720 the winds of change coming.

00:12:55.500 Because Jacob Rees-Mogg

00:12:56.440 has recently said,

00:12:58.100 look,

00:12:58.960 reform and the Conservatives

00:13:00.040 need an alliance.

00:13:01.000 Now,

00:13:02.140 I'm not a member

00:13:03.140 of either party,

00:13:04.620 and I would be happy

00:13:05.820 to support either party

00:13:07.060 if they were doing

00:13:07.580 what I wanted them to do.

00:13:09.420 So actually,

00:13:10.060 on this,

00:13:10.400 I'm kind of neutral.

00:13:11.660 I really don't mind,

00:13:12.940 you know,

00:13:13.260 which one gets the job done

00:13:15.720 as long as the job is done.

00:13:17.120 And as a kind of

00:13:18.580 dispassionate observer,

00:13:19.840 I can't help but notice

00:13:20.680 this is a profound statement

00:13:22.020 of weakness

00:13:22.680 from a party

00:13:23.840 that feels like

00:13:24.640 it's probably mortally wounded.

00:13:27.460 Farage is eating you alive.

00:13:29.260 Why would he want an alliance?

00:13:31.500 Yeah,

00:13:31.720 for the world's oldest

00:13:32.840 and most successful

00:13:33.600 political party

00:13:34.480 to now be calling

00:13:35.660 for an alliance

00:13:36.400 shows you their weakness

00:13:37.280 because they were

00:13:37.900 so arrogant before.

00:13:39.120 They would never think

00:13:39.920 about any of that.

00:13:40.940 They even refused

00:13:41.580 to stand down seats

00:13:42.560 in the 2019 election.

00:13:44.280 And Farage did.

00:13:45.100 Yeah,

00:13:45.760 for Farage.

00:13:47.680 And,

00:13:48.080 you know,

00:13:48.880 quite simply,

00:13:49.780 if you look at

00:13:50.580 the state of the Tory party,

00:13:53.240 Canada offers

00:13:54.200 the example there.

00:13:55.280 The Reform Party

00:13:55.920 doesn't need an alliance.

00:13:56.820 It needs to do

00:13:57.420 a hostile takeover

00:13:58.540 of the Tory party.

00:14:00.220 Back in 1993,

00:14:01.520 the Conservative government

00:14:02.460 and the Progressive

00:14:03.520 Conservative Party

00:14:04.360 of Canada,

00:14:04.880 there's an oxymoron

00:14:05.640 for a name,

00:14:06.460 the Progressive government

00:14:07.000 went down from being

00:14:07.700 the ruling government

00:14:08.980 to having only two seats

00:14:10.060 in Parliament.

00:14:11.040 And the Reform Party

00:14:12.020 of Canada,

00:14:13.140 which was basically

00:14:13.780 a Western party of Canada

00:14:15.060 of the Prairies

00:14:15.620 and so forth,

00:14:16.700 they became the biggest

00:14:17.680 right-wing party

00:14:18.460 and essentially

00:14:19.220 they took over

00:14:20.040 the fledgling PCs

00:14:22.040 and they created

00:14:22.980 a new Conservative Party

00:14:24.020 which you see today

00:14:24.760 which is much more

00:14:25.740 right-wing than the old PCs

00:14:26.880 led by Pierre Piolliver.

00:14:28.520 That's what needs

00:14:29.280 to happen in this shape.

00:14:30.500 No alliance,

00:14:31.460 hostile takeover.

00:14:33.060 Maybe it was just me

00:14:34.360 but it seems to me

00:14:35.180 that the Tories

00:14:35.840 had zero arguments

00:14:36.680 in the previous elections

00:14:37.720 and the only argument

00:14:39.080 they had was

00:14:39.840 a vote for reform

00:14:41.220 is a vote

00:14:41.780 that is splitting the right

00:14:42.900 and on this rationale

00:14:45.080 right now

00:14:45.800 a vote for Conservative

00:14:47.040 for Tories

00:14:48.640 is splitting the right.

00:14:49.600 Well, that's assuming

00:14:52.080 the Conservatives

00:14:52.780 have any

00:14:53.320 left in the right

00:14:54.920 No, I'm just saying

00:14:55.680 that they are losing

00:14:56.480 on the ground

00:14:58.000 of their own rhetoric.

00:14:59.460 You're being absolutely correct.

00:15:01.700 And so yeah,

00:15:02.460 I mean,

00:15:02.920 Zia Youssef

00:15:03.760 noticed this

00:15:05.580 and obviously replied

00:15:06.720 well,

00:15:07.460 why would we need that?

00:15:08.840 We're going to win

00:15:09.860 a decisive victory

00:15:10.820 and to be honest with you

00:15:11.860 I think they're on track

00:15:13.380 to do so.

00:15:14.620 It looks more and more

00:15:16.120 like, in fact,

00:15:17.400 reform are going to be

00:15:19.760 the next party of government

00:15:21.020 and all we're going

00:15:22.200 to have to do

00:15:22.640 is just wait out

00:15:23.540 this zombie Labour government

00:15:25.100 until they finally collapse.

00:15:26.920 I mean,

00:15:27.220 just as a quick point

00:15:28.180 on that, Rafe,

00:15:29.040 how long do you think

00:15:30.120 Starmer can possibly last for?

00:15:32.120 Well, it's a good question.

00:15:33.140 I've been asked before.

00:15:34.160 It's impossible to predict

00:15:35.200 any of these sorts of things.

00:15:37.120 Who's going to succeed him

00:15:38.440 with the Dawn Angela Ring?

00:15:40.040 I mean,

00:15:40.700 who's going to improve

00:15:41.720 the lot and chances,

00:15:43.200 Clive Lewis?

00:15:43.940 It's difficult to think

00:15:45.000 of who's going to be there

00:15:46.400 but, you know,

00:15:47.400 the media establishment

00:15:48.480 are also sort of,

00:15:49.500 you know,

00:15:49.880 protecting him so much

00:15:51.280 from all of these sorts

00:15:52.440 of secret stories

00:15:53.940 and scandals

00:15:54.600 that are existing.

00:15:56.100 I don't know,

00:15:56.800 it's impossible to say

00:15:57.520 but in any event,

00:15:59.900 I did say

00:16:01.160 when he first got to power

00:16:02.360 that it would be impossible

00:16:03.400 to see how this majority

00:16:04.920 could go away

00:16:05.800 in five years

00:16:06.560 but, of course,

00:16:07.760 reform is nipping

00:16:08.560 at the heels

00:16:09.180 and so many,

00:16:09.900 and we've just seen this

00:16:10.760 and I think, you know,

00:16:11.700 whether it's,

00:16:13.340 whoever's leading it,

00:16:14.880 we just have to look forward

00:16:15.700 to the four years' time.

00:16:17.400 Yeah, so I mean,

00:16:18.180 for anyone who's not British

00:16:19.360 and doesn't know

00:16:19.880 how the system works,

00:16:20.520 basically,

00:16:21.260 there's no legal mechanism

00:16:22.320 for us to be able

00:16:22.840 to get rid of Starmer

00:16:23.880 any earlier than

00:16:25.040 he wants to go.

00:16:26.540 It would have to come

00:16:27.420 from within the Labour Party

00:16:28.360 themselves

00:16:28.760 and they're not really

00:16:29.660 inclined to give up power

00:16:30.920 once they seize it

00:16:31.840 because Labour often

00:16:33.040 spends decades

00:16:33.860 out of power

00:16:34.580 and so,

00:16:35.660 to enact their,

00:16:36.400 what is essentially

00:16:36.940 a communist agenda,

00:16:38.020 they need to cling on to it

00:16:39.700 for as long as they can.

00:16:41.100 But there does have to come

00:16:42.260 a time where literally,

00:16:43.740 you know,

00:16:43.940 everyone's like,

00:16:44.760 here,

00:16:44.940 you're destroying the party.

00:16:46.380 You have to go.

00:16:47.520 The Tories are notorious

00:16:48.620 for actually,

00:16:49.500 you know,

00:16:49.880 defenestrating their leaders

00:16:51.280 when they're not winners

00:16:52.040 but Labour Party,

00:16:53.040 for some reason,

00:16:53.920 holds on to them.

00:16:55.340 But there has to come

00:16:56.520 a time where,

00:16:57.640 okay,

00:16:57.900 Kier,

00:16:58.280 you are in charge

00:16:59.080 and no one can make you leave

00:17:00.240 but everyone around you

00:17:01.380 is saying,

00:17:01.660 look,

00:17:01.700 I mean,

00:17:01.980 if Labour gets to sort of,

00:17:03.380 you know,

00:17:03.960 19,

00:17:04.740 18% of the polls,

00:17:05.980 surely they're going to

00:17:06.480 look,

00:17:06.680 Kier,

00:17:06.780 you're going to destroy

00:17:07.440 our party.

00:17:08.560 You just have to go

00:17:09.800 and there will come a point

00:17:11.560 where the pressure will mount

00:17:12.960 and even someone as disensouled

00:17:16.500 as Kier Starmer

00:17:17.380 will have to understand

00:17:18.340 that it's time.

00:17:20.540 So I would be surprised

00:17:21.700 if Kier Starmer actually

00:17:22.400 does last out the full five years.

00:17:24.120 But of course,

00:17:24.360 one of the other things

00:17:24.840 we should point out

00:17:25.440 about Labour,

00:17:26.040 of course,

00:17:26.300 is that their decline

00:17:27.480 hasn't just gone to reform,

00:17:28.680 of course,

00:17:29.020 it's also a fact

00:17:29.960 that many people on the left

00:17:31.080 feel,

00:17:32.040 you know,

00:17:32.160 people like the Owen Joneses

00:17:33.240 of this world

00:17:33.840 feel that the Labour Party

00:17:34.820 isn't left-wing enough,

00:17:36.000 you know,

00:17:36.180 as if Stalin wasn't very left-wing.

00:17:38.800 And also,

00:17:39.880 the Muslim vote,

00:17:40.560 of course,

00:17:40.880 has departed and left,

00:17:42.020 you know,

00:17:42.340 because of the,

00:17:43.060 you saw,

00:17:43.860 just as big as the Reform Party

00:17:45.460 results in the last election

00:17:46.980 was the election

00:17:47.620 of five Muslim vote MPs.

00:17:49.100 And of course,

00:17:49.780 you know,

00:17:50.380 Labour's prediction

00:17:51.040 that 80% of ethnic minorities

00:17:52.380 will vote for Labour

00:17:53.140 didn't take that into account.

00:17:54.760 So they've invited in

00:17:55.620 the very forces

00:17:56.260 that are undermining it.

00:17:57.480 Yes,

00:17:57.720 they fail to understand

00:17:58.480 that actually,

00:17:59.060 if you allow them

00:17:59.520 to concentrate in certain areas,

00:18:01.180 then they can just vote

00:18:01.900 for themselves.

00:18:03.300 And honestly,

00:18:03.980 at the next election,

00:18:04.580 we'll probably see

00:18:05.020 a Muslim party of Britain

00:18:06.060 that wins seats.

00:18:07.460 By the way,

00:18:08.280 thanks Labour,

00:18:08.920 thanks Tony Blair,

00:18:09.500 thanks Boris.

00:18:10.580 Much appreciated

00:18:11.380 for all of that.

00:18:12.120 Anyway,

00:18:12.520 but good for Reform,

00:18:13.640 and good for Rupert Lowe here

00:18:14.500 pointing out,

00:18:15.220 this is historic,

00:18:16.040 and he's absolutely right,

00:18:17.080 but that is a really

00:18:18.120 sizable lead.

00:18:19.440 A four-point lead in this,

00:18:20.860 again,

00:18:21.260 find out now poll.

00:18:21.980 Again,

00:18:22.620 it's not like

00:18:23.320 a right-wing pollster.

00:18:25.560 It's not Matthew Goodwin

00:18:26.740 who's done a poll

00:18:27.640 and found Reform

00:18:28.360 in the lead or anything.

00:18:29.080 No,

00:18:29.320 these are people

00:18:30.280 who obviously

00:18:30.740 don't have any sympathy.

00:18:31.720 And so when you

00:18:32.300 start mapping it out,

00:18:34.340 my God.

00:18:35.780 And it's many different polls.

00:18:37.160 It's not just one.

00:18:38.640 Well,

00:18:39.100 I think this is just

00:18:40.020 from the Find Out Now poll.

00:18:42.960 Yeah,

00:18:43.360 it's just one poll.

00:18:44.440 But still,

00:18:45.140 it's representative

00:18:46.320 of a trend

00:18:47.120 where Reform

00:18:48.180 have been in the lead

00:18:49.220 now consistently

00:18:49.820 for a week

00:18:50.620 in these polls.

00:18:52.080 And so what you can see

00:18:53.280 for anyone,

00:18:53.940 what we can see

00:18:54.460 for anyone listening

00:18:55.020 is a complete collapse

00:18:56.860 of the Conservatives,

00:18:57.680 basically.

00:18:58.580 The Labour Party

00:18:59.460 has clawed back

00:19:01.840 potentially a few

00:19:03.280 districts in the north,

00:19:05.560 but England,

00:19:06.540 basically,

00:19:07.040 England is going to Farage.

00:19:08.180 And it reinforces

00:19:09.360 how divided

00:19:10.020 our kingdom is

00:19:10.860 because you just have to

00:19:11.700 look at Scotland

00:19:12.380 to see that

00:19:13.120 all the disillusionment

00:19:14.400 with Labour

00:19:15.160 has made people

00:19:16.400 go back

00:19:16.960 to that awful 1.00

00:19:18.280 corrupt organisation, 0.98

00:19:19.420 the SNP. 0.96

00:19:20.520 You've got to be

00:19:20.920 very desperate

00:19:21.540 to actually think

00:19:22.440 of the SNP

00:19:23.160 as being a better

00:19:24.240 vote than Labour.

00:19:25.460 So again,

00:19:26.140 you know,

00:19:26.560 the Tories and Reform

00:19:27.880 unable to make

00:19:28.680 inroads in Scotland.

00:19:30.420 Yeah,

00:19:30.660 they've never had

00:19:31.240 any good messaging

00:19:31.860 on that.

00:19:33.180 But one thing

00:19:34.000 that I find frustrating

00:19:35.800 is the South West,

00:19:38.000 actually,

00:19:38.800 going so heavily

00:19:39.960 for the Lib Dems.

00:19:40.760 Now,

00:19:40.980 I mean,

00:19:41.220 we were as Brexit-y

00:19:42.240 as anywhere.

00:19:43.320 We voted for Brexit 0.99

00:19:44.540 almost all

00:19:45.380 of the South West

00:19:46.060 of England,

00:19:46.500 almost all Wessex

00:19:47.460 wanted Brexit 0.99

00:19:48.580 and yet for some reason

00:19:49.620 we were controlled

00:19:50.980 by Remainers.

00:19:52.040 And I think

00:19:52.720 this is generally

00:19:53.400 because of a lack

00:19:54.740 of proper campaigning

00:19:56.300 on the subject.

00:19:57.460 Because, I mean,

00:19:58.160 obviously everyone

00:19:59.000 and their mother

00:19:59.660 knows that Brexit

00:20:00.620 just has not been

00:20:01.660 implemented.

00:20:02.400 Nothing has been done

00:20:03.140 because of a lack

00:20:04.480 of competitive attitude.

00:20:07.920 And this has been

00:20:08.400 the major problem.

00:20:09.220 For example,

00:20:09.640 in this country,

00:20:10.340 corporation tax

00:20:11.100 didn't go up

00:20:11.740 recently actually,

00:20:12.460 but it's at least

00:20:13.020 25%.

00:20:14.060 Whereas in Ireland,

00:20:15.680 another English-speaking

00:20:16.800 European country,

00:20:18.060 it's 12.5%.

00:20:19.320 So we are being

00:20:20.720 directly undercut

00:20:21.900 by half

00:20:22.700 and that's why

00:20:23.540 if you are

00:20:24.440 a social media user,

00:20:26.240 all the Silicon

00:20:27.000 Tech Valley giants

00:20:28.080 have their headquarters

00:20:28.940 there and not London

00:20:30.160 or somewhere in England

00:20:31.360 because they pay

00:20:32.500 half the tax.

00:20:33.240 And so whenever

00:20:33.760 anyone from Twitter

00:20:35.260 or YouTube

00:20:35.740 or wherever gets

00:20:36.580 any money off

00:20:37.240 Silicon Valley,

00:20:37.940 you'll notice that

00:20:38.720 it comes from

00:20:39.160 Google Ireland,

00:20:40.120 X Ireland,

00:20:41.320 Facebook Ireland.

00:20:42.360 And so this is

00:20:43.980 the entire,

00:20:45.060 this is,

00:20:45.780 I mean,

00:20:46.040 just one aspect

00:20:47.000 of our complete failure

00:20:48.340 to try and be competitive.

00:20:50.380 We're not looking

00:20:51.300 at the European continent

00:20:52.640 as something we have

00:20:53.360 to defeat,

00:20:54.020 which is very frustrating.

00:20:55.540 And I think that

00:20:56.540 this kind of messaging

00:20:57.540 might actually work

00:20:58.620 quite well with

00:20:59.680 voters in the Southwest

00:21:01.160 because the Southwest

00:21:01.940 is fairly opulent,

00:21:04.300 actually,

00:21:04.760 as England goes.

00:21:06.200 It's not the North. 0.86

00:21:07.500 It's not London,

00:21:08.280 but it's,

00:21:09.260 you know,

00:21:10.480 fairly well to do.

00:21:11.900 But we are patriotic people

00:21:13.460 and what we would like

00:21:14.480 to see is business

00:21:15.340 competition.

00:21:16.160 We would like to make

00:21:16.980 it easier to do that.

00:21:18.040 But you see,

00:21:18.500 Southwest England

00:21:19.380 mirrors Southwest London

00:21:21.040 because they are the

00:21:22.120 most homogenous parts

00:21:23.440 of the nation

00:21:24.020 along with Scotland.

00:21:25.600 And so therefore,

00:21:26.660 you know,

00:21:26.860 these areas are the most

00:21:28.020 pro-immigration

00:21:28.760 because they don't

00:21:29.520 experience it.

00:21:30.240 They're not at the

00:21:30.680 coalface

00:21:31.240 and the areas that are blue

00:21:32.960 are at the coalface.

00:21:35.260 And I think it's the failure

00:21:36.640 to actually understand

00:21:37.740 the full crisis

00:21:39.580 of immigration

00:21:40.280 that explains

00:21:41.060 why reform hasn't

00:21:42.340 taken quite the hold there,

00:21:43.760 along with the fact

00:21:44.420 that the Lib Dems

00:21:45.320 have the best ground network

00:21:47.280 of any political party.

00:21:48.620 So when it comes

00:21:49.040 to campaigning,

00:21:49.980 they're able to get

00:21:50.800 their vote out.

00:21:51.900 That's what reform

00:21:52.600 is doing right now.

00:21:53.460 They're actually copying

00:21:54.280 the Lib Dems,

00:21:54.980 trying to replicate

00:21:56.140 their groundwork.

00:21:57.240 So maybe over the next

00:21:58.660 two, three, four years,

00:21:59.740 you will see reform

00:22:00.520 making inroads there too.

00:22:01.980 But again,

00:22:02.400 I think immigration

00:22:03.140 will be the deciding factor.

00:22:04.820 That's why,

00:22:05.200 you know,

00:22:05.320 some people will say,

00:22:05.960 well, you know,

00:22:06.380 Angela Rayner's plan

00:22:07.240 to disperse asylum seekers 1.00

00:22:08.980 elsewhere might actually

00:22:10.340 change the voting system.

00:22:13.600 I'm not happy with

00:22:14.340 how little Nigel Farage

00:22:15.660 is winning in the Southwest,

00:22:16.940 says Angela Rayner.

00:22:17.680 I can change that.

00:22:19.120 But this is the point

00:22:20.520 I wanted to make, though,

00:22:21.280 is if you're a reform

00:22:22.940 party strategist

00:22:23.980 and you're wondering

00:22:24.920 why you're not getting

00:22:26.160 anywhere in the Southwest,

00:22:27.000 you're absolutely correct.

00:22:28.800 The problem isn't

00:22:29.980 immigration in the Southwest,

00:22:31.260 it's stagnation.

00:22:32.540 And if you were to do

00:22:34.560 essentially what Thatcher 0.54

00:22:35.320 did with Essex and say,

00:22:36.300 look, we're going to make

00:22:37.220 you very rich.

00:22:38.740 Your standard of living

00:22:39.700 is going down.

00:22:40.300 We're not happy with that.

00:22:40.980 We know you're hardworking.

00:22:41.820 We know you're patriotic.

00:22:43.080 Actually, we're going to

00:22:44.440 essentially conquer Europe

00:22:46.000 economically.

00:22:47.500 You could have a very

00:22:48.800 aggressive campaign

00:22:49.600 because, like I said,

00:22:50.660 we were pro-Brexit.

00:22:52.340 We are a Brexit area as well.

00:22:54.120 We are not natural

00:22:55.100 liberal Democrats.

00:22:56.160 The reason the Lib Dems

00:22:57.080 are getting anywhere

00:22:57.560 is because essentially

00:22:58.800 that it's a kind of

00:22:59.980 non-political statement

00:23:02.340 to vote for the

00:23:03.080 Liberal Democrats.

00:23:04.160 Say, I don't really

00:23:04.720 want to talk about politics.

00:23:05.640 I vote Lib Dems.

00:23:06.660 This is what Ed Davies'

00:23:07.840 campaign was entirely

00:23:08.500 based on.

00:23:09.140 Look at him at some

00:23:10.340 water world or whatever

00:23:11.240 it was, like an actual 0.97

00:23:12.280 clown.

00:23:13.240 He's not proposing 1.00

00:23:13.900 any policies.

00:23:14.480 He's not talking about

00:23:14.880 anything interesting.

00:23:16.080 So, anyway,

00:23:17.980 some good news.

00:23:21.640 Just saw this come

00:23:22.500 on my feed.

00:23:23.560 I was like, well,

00:23:24.020 okay, yes.

00:23:25.080 I would like Lisa Nandy

00:23:26.240 to lose her seat. 0.51

00:23:27.280 And as you said,

00:23:28.100 Farage is well aware

00:23:29.880 that if you vote Tory,

00:23:31.600 you're going to get Labour.

00:23:32.800 And this seems to be true.

00:23:36.020 Farage is actually the

00:23:37.080 most popular party leader

00:23:38.060 in the country as well

00:23:39.220 as having the most

00:23:40.780 popular party in the

00:23:41.940 country.

00:23:42.800 So, I take it you saw

00:23:43.800 the other day when he

00:23:44.560 was in Parliament and

00:23:45.220 they were jeering him

00:23:46.100 and telling him to

00:23:46.740 resign.

00:23:47.700 And Farage take it

00:23:49.060 personally, and I don't

00:23:49.860 know why.

00:23:50.620 If I were Farage, I'd

00:23:51.720 be looking at them with

00:23:52.420 contempt and say,

00:23:53.160 you're all sitting in

00:23:53.860 my seats.

00:23:54.900 You're on borrowed

00:23:55.820 time.

00:23:56.740 Look at the polls.

00:23:57.400 You know you're all

00:23:58.400 gone come the next

00:23:59.500 election.

00:24:00.320 So, enjoy the time

00:24:01.000 while you've got it

00:24:01.900 and you'll see me

00:24:03.200 soon.

00:24:04.000 But for some reason,

00:24:05.080 he's been taking it

00:24:05.640 personally.

00:24:05.960 He doesn't need to.

00:24:07.320 From all of the

00:24:08.360 indications so far,

00:24:09.280 he is on track to win

00:24:10.340 a massive majority

00:24:11.780 and absolutely destroy 0.73

00:24:13.240 the Uniparty.

00:24:14.460 And so, like you said

00:24:15.400 earlier, there are a lot

00:24:16.300 of people in our spaces

00:24:17.060 where it's like, well,

00:24:17.620 he's not really right

00:24:18.220 wing enough. 0.93

00:24:18.600 Yeah, okay, yeah,

00:24:19.140 yeah, fair enough.

00:24:20.420 But crushing the Uniparty

00:24:21.580 is going to be an

00:24:22.640 amazing service to the

00:24:24.440 right in this country.

00:24:25.320 And so, I'm more than

00:24:26.900 happy to support

00:24:27.500 Faraj for that reason.

00:24:29.200 Yeah, and you know,

00:24:30.380 the best we can hope,

00:24:31.240 I mean, look, let's face

00:24:32.500 facts, the Reform Party

00:24:33.500 is the only game in town.

00:24:35.240 If we're going to have,

00:24:36.360 you know, a reverse

00:24:37.140 long march with

00:24:37.880 institutions and do

00:24:38.840 everything else, you

00:24:39.740 know, have a MAGA

00:24:40.400 light, it's only going to

00:24:42.020 be with Reform.

00:24:42.880 That's realistic.

00:24:43.780 You know, UKIP, all

00:24:44.880 these other parties,

00:24:46.060 lovely, but no one even

00:24:47.160 has heard of them in the

00:24:48.220 broader population.

00:24:49.720 The best we can hope

00:24:50.440 for, or my hope is,

00:24:51.780 that what Reform is doing

00:24:52.980 is essentially trying to

00:24:54.300 copy what Tony Blair did

00:24:56.240 in 97 and what Starmer

00:24:57.880 did, essentially talk a

00:24:59.500 rather centrist approach,

00:25:01.720 but have a radical plan

00:25:02.960 and agenda.

00:25:03.880 That means being

00:25:04.660 deceitful, I suppose,

00:25:05.680 but that's my only hope

00:25:07.120 for how we can actually

00:25:07.900 get proper policies

00:25:09.100 installed.

00:25:09.620 If they're not going to

00:25:10.120 be announcing them now,

00:25:11.460 maybe that's their plan

00:25:12.480 to essentially bring them

00:25:13.580 in once they got into

00:25:14.560 power and have a much

00:25:15.320 more radical agenda

00:25:16.140 than perhaps they told

00:25:17.320 the public.

00:25:18.900 Please let it be true.

00:25:20.220 Please let it be true.

00:25:21.220 Again, that's the

00:25:22.380 optimistic side.

00:25:23.440 Yeah.

00:25:24.540 The pessimistic side

00:25:25.840 is that Nigel Farage

00:25:27.560 is actually kind of as

00:25:28.440 wet as he is appearing

00:25:29.400 in the campaign trail,

00:25:30.440 which isn't optimistic,

00:25:31.280 but I don't know.

00:25:32.600 I'm not sure that he is.

00:25:33.540 Who knows?

00:25:34.200 We'll find out.

00:25:35.600 Well, the other hope is,

00:25:36.420 of course, after two years

00:25:37.840 or three years of MAGA,

00:25:39.900 there will be a tsunami

00:25:40.720 coming over the Atlantic

00:25:41.900 that will crash on our

00:25:42.980 shores and move that 0.77

00:25:43.800 Overton window so we can

00:25:45.100 actually discuss, you know,

00:25:46.500 I would, you know,

00:25:46.960 Tony Blair's campaign

00:25:48.080 slogan was education,

00:25:49.380 education, education,

00:25:50.340 and hopefully by then

00:25:51.440 it'll be re-migration,

00:25:52.620 re-migration, re-migration.

00:25:54.880 Well, if Rupert Lowe

00:25:55.680 has anything to do with it,

00:25:56.900 it seems that we're

00:25:57.800 on that track.

00:25:59.360 And let's go to some

00:26:00.020 comments quickly.

00:26:00.900 Glee says,

00:26:01.700 what role could a

00:26:02.360 potentially resurgent UKIP

00:26:03.740 play under Nick Tenconi

00:26:05.060 in the 2029 election?

00:26:06.480 Honestly, I don't see it

00:26:08.280 happening.

00:26:08.860 It's not that I have

00:26:10.020 anything against Nick Tenconi

00:26:11.100 or UKIP or anything like

00:26:12.000 that.

00:26:12.520 I just think you're

00:26:13.240 exactly right.

00:26:14.040 Reform is the only game

00:26:15.480 in town. 1.00

00:26:15.860 They're the ones sucking 0.95

00:26:16.780 up the right-wing energy.

00:26:18.340 We just have to accept it

00:26:19.340 and make the best of it.

00:26:21.180 And Annexio says,

00:26:22.260 Labour are doing a great

00:26:23.040 job promoting reform.

00:26:24.180 Look at Peter Lamb,

00:26:25.220 who said pensioners

00:26:25.920 have a choice whether

00:26:26.840 to freeze or not.

00:26:27.780 Crawley turned on him

00:26:28.620 and now he's looking

00:26:29.220 to be a reform win.

00:26:31.440 Yeah, well, that's the

00:26:32.220 thing.

00:26:32.480 I mean, what Labour want

00:26:33.940 is fundamentally evil.

00:26:36.360 And it's actually quite

00:26:37.980 easy to do nothing

00:26:39.060 and find yourself

00:26:39.980 in the winning position.

00:26:41.000 Because, I mean,

00:26:41.300 really all Farage is

00:26:42.200 doing is letting his

00:26:43.220 opponents fall apart.

00:26:44.800 Which, again,

00:26:45.240 is a perfectly sound

00:26:45.920 strategy.

00:26:46.340 Why interrupt your

00:26:48.060 enemies when they're

00:26:48.540 making a mistake?

00:26:50.080 Of course, a lot of this

00:26:50.940 could change once people

00:26:51.980 see the policies.

00:26:53.140 Because, again,

00:26:53.760 a lot of this is just

00:26:54.760 people being disaffected

00:26:55.980 by the Tories and Labour.

00:26:58.200 If they see the policies,

00:26:59.600 maybe it'll turn off

00:27:00.460 a lot of people too.

00:27:01.960 That's something also

00:27:02.760 we need to factor

00:27:03.400 into all of this.

00:27:04.460 Yeah, it's a needle

00:27:06.180 that reform have to

00:27:07.340 think about threading.

00:27:08.340 Anyway, let's move on.

00:27:10.940 Right, so I think that

00:27:12.240 2025 is a very

00:27:13.940 seminal year.

00:27:14.780 Historians will remember

00:27:16.120 it as the year that

00:27:17.080 the tide has turned

00:27:18.200 or that the tide turned

00:27:20.120 because the conception

00:27:21.780 of what is politically

00:27:22.740 possible has radically

00:27:24.460 shifted.

00:27:25.840 It happened with

00:27:27.860 three people

00:27:28.640 and three is the

00:27:29.520 magical number

00:27:30.200 in persuasion

00:27:31.040 and in rhetoric.

00:27:32.560 First came Bukele, 1.00

00:27:33.600 then came Millet,

00:27:34.760 then came Trump.

00:27:36.280 So I think that

00:27:37.040 this trinity

00:27:38.620 has been completed

00:27:39.840 and it actually

00:27:41.980 pushes forward

00:27:43.940 for the complete

00:27:45.180 change in the

00:27:47.220 people's conception

00:27:48.140 of what is

00:27:48.800 politically possible

00:27:49.660 because before

00:27:50.400 that,

00:27:53.420 most people would

00:27:54.280 say that

00:27:54.940 politics is just

00:27:56.840 the micromanagement

00:27:58.280 of decline.

00:27:59.320 It's just downhill

00:28:00.420 from here.

00:28:01.360 There is zero

00:28:01.920 representation.

00:28:03.220 No one cares

00:28:03.780 actually to represent

00:28:04.880 their voting base.

00:28:06.860 No one cares

00:28:07.560 for the safety

00:28:08.480 of their people.

00:28:09.080 it's just going

00:28:10.080 downhill.

00:28:11.040 But I think that

00:28:11.800 we see now

00:28:13.240 a lot of leaders

00:28:14.820 who are doing

00:28:15.620 the exact opposite.

00:28:17.100 I think that this

00:28:17.740 is particularly good

00:28:18.660 and let me just

00:28:19.480 give you a very

00:28:20.560 brief,

00:28:21.360 very brief

00:28:22.920 introduction to this

00:28:23.840 and contrast it

00:28:24.720 with politics in Europe

00:28:25.820 because I think

00:28:27.000 that the

00:28:27.680 distinction

00:28:29.900 between how

00:28:30.740 politics right now

00:28:32.020 is exercised

00:28:32.760 in the Americas

00:28:33.780 and how it is

00:28:34.560 exercised in Europe

00:28:36.060 is becoming

00:28:36.740 much more visible

00:28:37.820 and the more

00:28:38.500 people are

00:28:39.100 viewing this

00:28:40.260 the more likely

00:28:41.120 they are to

00:28:41.840 want this

00:28:43.080 and to demand

00:28:43.980 the self-evident

00:28:47.160 because to actually

00:28:48.920 represent your people

00:28:50.020 in a democracy

00:28:51.020 is what

00:28:51.760 a democracy

00:28:52.960 is supposed to be about.

00:28:54.140 Sounds like

00:28:54.480 dangerous populism to me.

00:28:56.040 I think we need

00:28:56.860 a bureaucracy

00:28:57.300 to manage the

00:28:58.380 decline and

00:28:59.580 reallocation of resources

00:29:01.500 to make sure

00:29:02.000 everyone gets

00:29:02.580 to share.

00:29:03.800 So what I wanted

00:29:04.900 to say is that

00:29:05.600 for instance

00:29:06.020 El Salvador

00:29:06.700 Bukela was in

00:29:07.940 El Salvador

00:29:08.500 El Salvador

00:29:09.800 was at once

00:29:11.220 the murder

00:29:11.960 capital of the world

00:29:13.020 he came in

00:29:14.200 he put some

00:29:15.200 bad people

00:29:15.680 in prison

00:29:16.160 now El Salvador

00:29:17.840 is one of the

00:29:19.940 safest countries

00:29:20.600 Not rocket science

00:29:21.500 is it?

00:29:21.880 It's not rocket science

00:29:22.860 and actually

00:29:23.720 one of the

00:29:24.600 good things

00:29:25.560 about it

00:29:25.980 is that

00:29:26.360 we don't need

00:29:28.400 a revolution

00:29:29.120 in philosophy

00:29:30.080 or something

00:29:30.680 we don't need

00:29:31.260 something radical

00:29:31.980 we actually need

00:29:33.160 people to enforce

00:29:34.120 laws

00:29:34.560 that have been

00:29:35.880 adopted

00:29:36.460 and embraced

00:29:37.380 for decades

00:29:38.420 but in the last

00:29:39.360 decades

00:29:39.920 we have

00:29:40.920 radical

00:29:41.740 since the

00:29:42.240 start of time

00:29:43.080 the very concept

00:29:43.760 of law

00:29:44.200 punish the wrongdoer

00:29:45.800 literally the essence

00:29:47.440 of law

00:29:48.060 the very first

00:29:49.140 laws that were

00:29:49.780 ever written

00:29:50.480 are the same

00:29:51.500 as the ones

00:29:52.040 we've got now

00:29:52.760 exactly

00:29:54.020 but if you see

00:29:55.080 you see here

00:29:58.840 maybe this is

00:30:00.660 the wrong document

00:30:01.300 but I'll just

00:30:02.200 tell you the data

00:30:03.080 we have 88%

00:30:04.320 of Salvadorians

00:30:05.940 who feel

00:30:06.460 really well

00:30:07.420 walking

00:30:07.780 and safe

00:30:08.500 walking out

00:30:09.040 at night

00:30:09.420 people in Ecuador

00:30:10.500 don't

00:30:11.680 and this is

00:30:12.840 they feel

00:30:13.800 27% safe

00:30:15.160 and this is

00:30:15.840 a huge difference

00:30:17.060 very similar people

00:30:18.160 very similar culture

00:30:18.980 very similar climate

00:30:19.940 very similar environment

00:30:20.860 what's the difference

00:30:22.160 well

00:30:22.560 the leader

00:30:23.100 not only the leader

00:30:24.820 it's the

00:30:25.560 it's the

00:30:26.760 enforcement

00:30:27.820 of the law

00:30:28.500 not a secret

00:30:29.460 or something

00:30:29.860 here the suicide

00:30:30.700 the murder rates

00:30:32.200 the homicide rates

00:30:33.380 in El Salvador

00:30:34.080 in the last decade

00:30:35.560 we had 108

00:30:37.360 at some point

00:30:38.740 103

00:30:39.540 per 100,000 people

00:30:41.660 now

00:30:42.460 after Bukele

00:30:43.480 in

00:30:43.980 came

00:30:45.120 in 2019

00:30:46.100 it has dropped

00:30:47.080 down to 2.4

00:30:48.140 he literally

00:30:50.420 transformed

00:30:51.040 and

00:30:51.360 he literally

00:30:52.260 transformed

00:30:52.940 El Salvador

00:30:53.740 to one of the

00:30:54.580 safest places

00:30:55.260 and it's not

00:30:57.640 rocket science

00:30:58.300 how he did it

00:30:59.540 now

00:31:00.080 Millet is the

00:31:01.420 second person

00:31:02.120 Argentina

00:31:02.980 has suffered

00:31:03.880 from decades

00:31:04.680 of Peronism

00:31:05.500 decades

00:31:06.300 of inflation

00:31:07.100 decades

00:31:08.260 of high poverty

00:31:09.480 rate

00:31:09.800 he came in

00:31:10.720 he did actually

00:31:11.500 what is supposed

00:31:12.260 to work

00:31:12.700 just for anyone

00:31:13.440 who doesn't know

00:31:13.880 what Peronism is

00:31:14.760 communism

00:31:15.200 it's just

00:31:15.800 communists

00:31:16.500 it's just

00:31:16.960 statism

00:31:18.360 status policies

00:31:19.780 what happens

00:31:20.380 when a communist

00:31:20.860 takes over your country

00:31:21.660 is they use

00:31:22.100 the government

00:31:22.460 to immiserate

00:31:23.120 the entire population

00:31:24.040 exactly

00:31:24.620 and that's happened

00:31:25.520 across South America

00:31:26.280 for decades

00:31:26.900 it's happening here

00:31:27.640 now

00:31:27.960 it's happened

00:31:28.340 across Europe

00:31:28.840 it's just communism

00:31:30.140 and this

00:31:30.960 this is not rocket science

00:31:32.400 he tamed inflation

00:31:33.540 not rocket science

00:31:34.960 stop spending money

00:31:36.060 stop allowing the government

00:31:37.080 spend all your money

00:31:37.840 exactly

00:31:38.660 so

00:31:39.260 and his popularity

00:31:40.700 is actually a really good thing

00:31:42.500 now because

00:31:43.120 the policies

00:31:44.420 that he advocates

00:31:45.600 are policies

00:31:46.500 that frequently

00:31:47.160 in the short term

00:31:48.280 don't yield results

00:31:49.680 but actually

00:31:50.760 in this case

00:31:51.360 I think a lot

00:31:52.080 I hear a lot

00:31:52.860 of Argentinians

00:31:53.600 who are happy

00:31:54.060 I have a friend

00:31:55.420 who is Argentinian

00:31:56.420 he's told me

00:31:57.140 that he's ecstatic

00:31:57.960 because he finally

00:31:59.040 found a job

00:31:59.700 and he also

00:32:00.220 has someone

00:32:01.080 who feels

00:32:02.160 he is representing him

00:32:03.380 and what is most important

00:32:04.520 he says that there is

00:32:05.320 a cultural aspect

00:32:06.180 to it

00:32:06.600 there is what is called

00:32:08.040 in Argentina

00:32:08.820 the viveza creola mentality

00:32:10.360 which is basically

00:32:11.440 the mentality

00:32:11.980 that corruption

00:32:12.600 is all there is

00:32:13.460 and that there can be

00:32:14.840 nothing else

00:32:15.320 and he says

00:32:16.140 that Millet

00:32:16.540 is actually

00:32:17.040 leading the fight

00:32:17.940 against this

00:32:18.580 I love Millet's

00:32:19.740 kind of intense look

00:32:20.700 sorry can we go back

00:32:21.400 to it a sec

00:32:21.800 yes

00:32:22.180 he's got this

00:32:23.180 remarkable

00:32:23.940 intenseness

00:32:24.740 about him

00:32:25.400 I find very engaging

00:32:27.220 I love watching

00:32:28.280 I can never understand

00:32:29.080 what he's saying

00:32:29.460 obviously he's saying

00:32:30.000 in Spanish

00:32:30.440 but I just like

00:32:31.600 seeing the sort of

00:32:32.440 like

00:32:32.680 yeah yeah 0.98

00:32:33.880 but he's like a maniac

00:32:35.180 against state spending

00:32:37.800 and as someone

00:32:38.820 who's just recently

00:32:39.520 had to pay his taxes

00:32:40.420 my god

00:32:40.980 I feel that energy

00:32:42.220 he can actually

00:32:43.480 exercise elementary

00:32:44.720 reasoning skills

00:32:45.980 he says we have a goal

00:32:47.340 he's an economist

00:32:47.720 these are the

00:32:48.380 well there have been

00:32:49.820 other economists

00:32:50.600 I know

00:32:51.240 so these are

00:32:54.180 this is the goal

00:32:55.140 these are the means

00:32:56.140 we take the means

00:32:56.940 to the goal

00:32:57.460 and we're

00:32:59.380 on our way

00:33:00.500 to achieving the goal

00:33:01.380 now comes Trump

00:33:02.560 and I wouldn't

00:33:04.120 ever expect

00:33:05.140 that this was

00:33:05.900 going to be

00:33:06.360 something people

00:33:06.980 would cheer on

00:33:07.860 or something

00:33:08.400 that this

00:33:09.540 would be heard

00:33:10.620 that he just

00:33:11.580 signs an executive

00:33:12.480 to ban men 0.97

00:33:13.180 from competing

00:33:13.800 in women's sports

00:33:14.720 the whole signing

00:33:17.380 of this

00:33:17.740 was so wholesome

00:33:18.480 though

00:33:18.780 it was just

00:33:19.820 you know

00:33:20.140 Trump with all

00:33:20.760 these kids

00:33:21.260 all these young

00:33:21.760 girls 0.98

00:33:22.000 and he just

00:33:22.860 completely normally

00:33:23.600 he's like

00:33:24.220 grandfather Trump

00:33:25.260 handing out

00:33:26.040 the pens afterwards

00:33:26.820 you know

00:33:27.120 haven't you had

00:33:27.460 a good time

00:33:28.040 you know

00:33:28.300 look at that

00:33:29.020 in the best

00:33:29.580 signature

00:33:29.960 and it's just

00:33:30.660 like

00:33:30.840 there's something

00:33:31.720 very homely

00:33:32.560 and appealing

00:33:33.020 about it

00:33:33.420 it's like

00:33:33.800 when he was

00:33:34.080 at the McDonald's

00:33:34.780 and he's waving

00:33:35.220 out of their thing

00:33:35.900 it was just like

00:33:36.560 it's the grandpa

00:33:37.680 Trump

00:33:38.080 yeah grandpa

00:33:38.840 Trump

00:33:39.120 he's truly

00:33:39.760 moving to the

00:33:40.460 sort of patriarch

00:33:41.180 you know

00:33:42.120 caring patriarch

00:33:43.520 mold

00:33:43.980 and I really

00:33:44.680 approve of it

00:33:45.460 so now that we

00:33:46.580 have the trinity

00:33:47.320 it's developing

00:33:48.700 a kind of synergy

00:33:49.760 to an unprecedented

00:33:51.380 level

00:33:52.020 Millet now

00:33:53.140 is banning

00:33:54.720 sex change

00:33:56.420 surgeries

00:33:57.120 on mariners

00:33:58.640 in Argentina

00:33:59.360 you see the

00:34:00.180 virtues change

00:34:01.240 so

00:34:01.460 not very controversial

00:34:02.560 really

00:34:03.300 it's not

00:34:03.760 but that's the issue

00:34:04.680 with how

00:34:05.320 the left

00:34:06.260 has acted

00:34:08.440 in the last decades

00:34:09.420 because

00:34:09.700 if you're just 1.00

00:34:10.980 a raving lunatic 1.00

00:34:12.380 then whoever's 1.00

00:34:14.200 the other person

00:34:14.800 you're basically

00:34:15.400 handing them

00:34:16.000 easy wins

00:34:16.660 yeah

00:34:17.420 but also

00:34:18.200 the thing

00:34:19.700 with the left

00:34:20.120 it's the control

00:34:20.860 of discourse

00:34:21.580 and stigma

00:34:22.380 that has been

00:34:23.640 what has allowed

00:34:24.480 them to get 0.86

00:34:25.220 anywhere

00:34:25.640 in anything

00:34:26.400 the pure

00:34:27.340 negative

00:34:28.420 characterisation

00:34:29.200 of anyone

00:34:29.760 who might have

00:34:30.500 a differing opinion

00:34:31.140 has been a

00:34:31.700 really powerful

00:34:32.400 tool that we've

00:34:32.940 allowed them

00:34:33.400 to have

00:34:33.700 far too long

00:34:34.720 exactly

00:34:35.120 and I mean

00:34:36.020 Trump right now

00:34:36.940 has signed

00:34:37.220 several executive

00:34:38.520 orders that seem

00:34:39.440 to me to be

00:34:39.900 very commonsensical

00:34:40.960 for instance

00:34:41.620 the deportations

00:34:42.580 issue

00:34:42.960 there was no

00:34:44.500 issue

00:34:44.860 there was no

00:34:46.220 problem

00:34:46.660 nothing stopped

00:34:47.560 stopped him

00:34:48.500 he said okay

00:34:49.100 they're getting

00:34:49.620 deported

00:34:50.100 the president of

00:34:51.160 Colombia said

00:34:51.780 at some point

00:34:52.280 no

00:34:52.640 he tried

00:34:53.840 to put up

00:34:54.460 a fight

00:34:54.880 but at the

00:34:55.580 end

00:34:55.760 he accepted

00:34:56.980 there are

00:34:57.740 many of them

00:34:58.600 we've discussed

00:34:59.300 them

00:34:59.620 that's why

00:35:00.640 I'm putting

00:35:01.200 another one

00:35:01.720 that

00:35:01.840 it's like

00:35:02.300 it's ruinous

00:35:02.940 to send

00:35:03.260 these people

00:35:03.620 back to my

00:35:04.060 country

00:35:04.300 so we've

00:35:08.240 talked about

00:35:08.680 them a lot

00:35:09.180 on our

00:35:10.220 segments

00:35:10.600 that's why

00:35:11.040 I'm talking

00:35:11.640 about this

00:35:12.560 executive order

00:35:13.520 now

00:35:13.840 he signs

00:35:14.520 an executive

00:35:15.060 order to

00:35:15.680 resume the

00:35:16.200 process of

00:35:16.780 creating a

00:35:17.680 new national

00:35:18.320 park full of

00:35:19.060 statues of

00:35:20.000 the greatest

00:35:20.420 Americans who

00:35:21.120 ever lived

00:35:21.560 I think

00:35:22.320 that this

00:35:22.640 is again

00:35:23.340 a paradigm

00:35:23.920 shift

00:35:24.400 because it

00:35:25.620 might sound

00:35:26.320 weird to

00:35:26.860 people who

00:35:27.240 don't follow

00:35:27.720 politics

00:35:28.260 because they

00:35:29.300 may think

00:35:30.320 that yeah

00:35:30.800 obviously

00:35:31.280 politicians are

00:35:32.880 happy and

00:35:34.000 they support

00:35:35.200 great Americans

00:35:35.920 but no this

00:35:36.760 is a paradigm

00:35:37.460 shift because

00:35:38.520 it's a blow

00:35:40.020 to the narrative

00:35:40.780 of shaming

00:35:41.560 and this is

00:35:43.100 something that we

00:35:44.420 desperately need

00:35:45.440 here in Europe

00:35:46.120 because for

00:35:47.460 some reason

00:35:48.060 the Europeans

00:35:48.980 are just

00:35:49.860 having a

00:35:51.060 masochistic 0.99

00:35:51.900 fetish with 0.95

00:35:52.640 shaming and 0.56

00:35:53.820 historical shame

00:35:54.680 the West has

00:35:55.280 always dominated

00:35:56.340 when it has

00:35:56.920 been self

00:35:57.460 confident and

00:35:58.460 assertive and

00:35:59.680 it's known

00:36:00.420 what or who

00:36:01.600 it is and

00:36:02.580 it's when we've

00:36:03.160 been navel 0.95

00:36:03.640 gazing and

00:36:04.260 nihilistic and

00:36:05.060 wearing a

00:36:05.460 horsehair shirt

00:36:06.240 and self

00:36:06.960 flagellating that

00:36:08.140 we see the West

00:36:08.800 at its weakest

00:36:09.400 and being taken

00:36:11.160 for a ride by

00:36:12.800 Russia, China

00:36:14.240 who display all

00:36:15.640 those qualities

00:36:16.240 that we once did

00:36:17.080 about self

00:36:17.600 confidence and

00:36:18.700 assertiveness and

00:36:19.480 that's why he

00:36:20.320 announced this when

00:36:20.900 he was last

00:36:21.420 president and I

00:36:22.580 was so happy

00:36:23.120 about it because

00:36:23.520 it's a complete

00:36:24.080 slap in the face

00:36:24.980 to BLM all 1.00

00:36:26.340 those people

00:36:27.240 who are those

00:36:27.780 iconoclasts who

00:36:28.620 are tearing down

00:36:29.200 great heroes I

00:36:30.460 wish we had

00:36:30.900 something like that

00:36:31.540 here my only

00:36:32.400 slight because you

00:36:32.920 know Americans

00:36:34.080 hate monarchy but

00:36:35.320 the power of a

00:36:36.740 president with

00:36:37.160 executive orders is

00:36:38.480 greater than any

00:36:39.160 monarch of in

00:36:40.140 European you

00:36:41.060 history for the

00:36:41.540 last 200 years

00:36:42.580 my only thing is

00:36:44.000 executive orders are

00:36:44.780 so easy to repeal

00:36:45.700 by the next

00:36:46.220 incumbent and it's

00:36:48.120 fine to do it in

00:36:48.760 the short term I

00:36:49.900 just hope now that

00:36:50.680 Congress is

00:36:51.200 Republican there'll

00:36:52.280 be legislation to

00:36:53.180 actually ensure that

00:36:54.060 this stuff lasts more

00:36:54.980 than just four years

00:36:55.740 I absolutely agree

00:36:56.920 with you and I

00:36:57.660 think that this is

00:36:58.260 important especially

00:36:59.160 for the MAGA

00:37:00.000 triumphalists who 0.76

00:37:01.620 literally view Trump

00:37:03.620 right now as some

00:37:04.920 communists viewed

00:37:05.560 Castro because Castro

00:37:06.880 gave those speeches

00:37:07.680 he signed some

00:37:08.380 executives and they

00:37:09.540 thought okay he said

00:37:10.700 he's gonna bring

00:37:11.280 growth so growth

00:37:12.040 came no it hasn't

00:37:13.280 happened yet that's

00:37:13.960 why a lot of it's

00:37:15.700 it's beginning now

00:37:16.820 the changes need to be

00:37:18.500 cemented in legislation

00:37:19.640 exactly but it's a

00:37:21.260 good way to start the

00:37:22.320 fire to the fireplace you

00:37:23.940 need some kindling and

00:37:25.060 you need to it's only

00:37:26.220 been two weeks or

00:37:26.980 something exactly so

00:37:27.940 it's a strong start and

00:37:28.940 I think that it is a

00:37:30.040 good message that I'm

00:37:31.860 here to do business and

00:37:33.600 I'm here to form an

00:37:36.120 alliance with people who

00:37:37.360 mean business rather

00:37:38.820 than just want to

00:37:40.780 partake in lose-lose

00:37:42.600 situations as Musk said

00:37:44.200 he said we have one

00:37:45.040 chance to have this

00:37:45.960 revolution and it's now

00:37:47.260 if we don't do it now

00:37:48.280 it'll never happen and

00:37:49.340 so you do need to be an

00:37:50.400 immediate disruptor it is

00:37:51.800 shock and awe

00:37:52.480 I mean any any year of

00:37:55.560 leftist subversion is a

00:37:56.820 year too many and that's

00:37:59.140 good so I want to say

00:38:00.300 that here in Europe

00:38:01.940 I'm absolutely I find

00:38:04.620 European leadership

00:38:05.760 abominable we're not in

00:38:07.140 Europe you're not in 0.71

00:38:09.820 continental Europe yeah

00:38:11.760 or or not so is this a

00:38:13.840 lot mine now England is 0.53

00:38:15.400 something apart okay I've

00:38:17.560 long maintained England

00:38:18.880 and Europe cut off

00:38:20.100 okay that's precisely the

00:38:22.060 attitude I have okay I'm

00:38:23.640 gonna be diplomatic here is

00:38:26.040 England and the loss of

00:38:27.640 the world are you happy

00:38:28.480 with that formulation that's

00:38:30.040 fine right so I think in

00:38:31.460 England and and in

00:38:33.020 continental Europe people

00:38:34.660 view politics as

00:38:36.040 essentially the

00:38:36.660 micromanagement of

00:38:37.540 decline and they have

00:38:38.640 the exact opposite

00:38:39.720 approach to politics

00:38:41.480 than Trump Millet and

00:38:43.000 Bukele have there is

00:38:44.620 always an obstacle as if

00:38:47.760 actually being good for

00:38:49.640 your country and your

00:38:50.340 people violates the human

00:38:51.660 right of migrating to a

00:38:53.760 country and destroying it

00:38:54.800 or wanting it to be

00:38:55.980 destroyed that's so it's

00:38:58.980 it's not just cultural it's

00:39:00.620 also economical the EU is

00:39:03.660 just causing its own

00:39:05.640 brain drain by this is a

00:39:08.980 true turn of phrase to

00:39:10.280 the US innovates China 0.89

00:39:11.620 replicates and the EU

00:39:12.480 regulates yeah it reminds

00:39:14.080 me you know when in 1940

00:39:16.080 at the height of the war

00:39:17.140 when Britain was standing

00:39:18.260 alone and it looked like

00:39:19.500 all of Europe would fall

00:39:20.440 Churchill said one of his

00:39:21.500 speeches he looked forward

00:39:23.420 to the time when the new

00:39:24.540 world with all its power and

00:39:26.040 might steps forward to the

00:39:27.620 rescue and liberation of

00:39:28.660 the old and you've got

00:39:29.960 that triumvirate right in

00:39:31.220 Ecuador and El Salvador

00:39:33.160 Argentina and America who

00:39:35.160 could actually provide the

00:39:36.740 means of liberation

00:39:37.760 exactly so I'm tired of

00:39:39.860 socialism I'm whether it's

00:39:41.640 fast or slow I just don't

00:39:43.100 want it and I think that

00:39:44.520 Europe the message the

00:39:45.660 timescale wasn't the issue

00:39:46.820 yeah yeah no but the point

00:39:49.300 is that the message Europe

00:39:50.660 is sending to people is I

00:39:53.040 don't respect ambitious

00:39:54.220 people I don't respect the

00:39:55.900 profit motive so you're

00:39:57.620 going to have to be here

00:39:58.900 and just abide by my

00:40:00.940 regulations well notice

00:40:02.380 that the entire aspect of

00:40:04.340 the European Union is about

00:40:05.680 predictability and

00:40:07.100 certainty and the problem

00:40:08.540 that they have with what

00:40:10.580 you're suggesting is you are

00:40:12.800 literally offering them

00:40:14.120 unpredictability and

00:40:15.200 uncertainty things may

00:40:16.800 happen in the future that

00:40:17.680 you're not in control of so

00:40:18.920 of course they're intrinsically

00:40:20.920 against it exactly the

00:40:22.420 entire managerial frame is

00:40:23.600 designed to know precisely

00:40:25.840 what tomorrow is going to be

00:40:27.180 like and if you can not

00:40:29.380 guarantee that tomorrow will

00:40:30.420 be exactly like today they're

00:40:31.420 going to reject it out of

00:40:32.120 hand exactly and when you

00:40:34.120 have a leadership that says I

00:40:36.440 don't respect ambitious

00:40:37.660 people I don't respect people

00:40:39.460 who want to innovate and I

00:40:40.700 don't want to respect the

00:40:41.740 profit motive you have someone

00:40:43.160 across the pond like Trump

00:40:44.340 who's again signing an

00:40:46.000 executive order to profit from

00:40:48.260 their brain drain and he says

00:40:49.680 he's establishing an AI

00:40:51.440 innovation refugee status for

00:40:53.580 tech entrepreneurs and AI

00:40:55.120 researchers fleeing EU's

00:40:56.980 restrictive A laws we should 1.00

00:40:59.140 have been doing this this is

00:41:00.340 what we should have been doing

00:41:01.240 with Brexit exactly right so 0.69

00:41:03.660 what do we have here in

00:41:04.960 England we have a government

00:41:06.700 that is talking about non-crime

00:41:09.960 hate incidents I mean that's

00:41:13.420 not that's not the way to go

00:41:14.700 forward you would think no it's

00:41:18.880 not it's just not I it's

00:41:20.520 subjectively absolutely and yet

00:41:22.840 here we are with our non-crime

00:41:24.700 hate incidents as all the

00:41:26.060 brains go to the United States

00:41:27.940 we have also voices that say

00:41:30.200 well for pedophiles can't be

00:41:32.700 deported because it violates the

00:41:35.560 human rights of their family to

00:41:37.420 have them close to them or it

00:41:39.700 violates the the well-being of

00:41:42.380 them to have a close family life

00:41:44.380 so we have several the pedophile

00:41:47.120 needs unlimited access to

00:41:48.720 children is what they're saying

00:41:50.400 well they're saying that if the 0.85

00:41:52.000 pedophile gets deported the 0.96

00:41:53.580 family of the pedophile is going 0.94

00:41:55.160 to have a negative well-being

00:41:56.340 it's going to impact their

00:41:58.500 well-being I'm sure it'd be

00:41:59.400 perfectly fine to keep the 0.99

00:42:00.300 pedophile in the house with his 0.91

00:42:01.400 own children that didn't stomp 0.84

00:42:03.000 that this kind of rationale

00:42:04.480 didn't enter Trump's mind when he

00:42:06.440 was negotiating with Colombia and

00:42:08.600 with Haiti but for some reason

00:42:10.560 people here in Europe and the

00:42:14.340 England think we don't even

00:42:16.620 need to you know it's not even

00:42:17.460 about the ECHR you know we've had

00:42:19.020 14 years where we could have got

00:42:20.480 rid of the Human Rights Act and

00:42:22.080 the Equalities Act it was the

00:42:23.140 Human Rights Act of our of

00:42:24.540 Gordon Brown Tony Blair that tied

00:42:26.560 us into that exactly we have here

00:42:28.680 headlines like this migrant 0.94

00:42:30.320 shambles as unnamed judge let's

00:42:32.340 pedophile we cannot name to protect

00:42:34.620 his privacy stay in UK because

00:42:36.220 because panic Pakistan his family

00:42:38.760 might disapprove of him lasting

00:42:41.300 after barely pubescent girls so 0.99

00:42:43.040 there we have we have we have

00:42:46.560 political judges man we've got such

00:42:49.560 a problem with our judges the

00:42:50.900 problem is that they're allowed to

00:42:54.120 take risks with the safety of

00:42:56.560 European people yeah of the native

00:42:58.480 population of European countries

00:43:01.160 that they're not prepared to take

00:43:02.940 with convicted criminals because

00:43:05.980 this it's it's not an argument you

00:43:08.880 can't make that argument it's not a

00:43:10.480 sound argument thrash him then deport

00:43:12.800 him I mean it's really not very

00:43:14.280 complicated the other thing now we

00:43:15.400 see is people saying that they're

00:43:16.460 bisexual and rapists and others so 1.00

00:43:18.520 that can't be deported because I'm 0.99

00:43:19.880 bisexual exactly and all this is

00:43:21.880 contributing to actually the decline

00:43:24.460 of Europe so it's not a surprise if you

00:43:26.840 see politics as the micromanaging of

00:43:29.900 decline yeah you're gonna face decline

00:43:32.000 here we have the list of bombings in

00:43:35.040 Sweden it resembles a band's tour

00:43:38.580 schedule three literally one day yeah

00:43:41.840 different city it's 33 in in January I

00:43:46.360 don't know I thought that Sweden was

00:43:48.480 supposed to be the gem of Scandinavia

00:43:51.180 according to social Democrats who were

00:43:53.680 saying look at how these the all these 0.88

00:43:56.060 policies come into fruition rape and bomb

00:43:58.880 capital of the world by 2050 approximately 0.89

00:44:02.040 30 percent of the nation will be Muslim

00:44:03.800 according to the latest stats but don't

00:44:05.360 worry because diversity is our greatest

00:44:07.280 strength progress right progress you don't

00:44:09.840 understand here for some reason we have

00:44:13.840 Germany shooting the its own feet ah yes

00:44:17.620 economically speaking and energy speaking

00:44:20.560 look at the nuclear energy production of

00:44:24.340 its own it literally turned its back on its

00:44:26.860 nuclear program I know it's so but we're

00:44:29.280 getting into this in the next segment 0.73

00:44:30.460 actually it's just so ridiculous crime in 0.83

00:44:32.440 Germany in every kind of violent crime 1.00

00:44:35.380 is rising by at least 10 percent per year

00:44:37.840 we have the same pattern that follows

00:44:40.740 politicians that constantly make virtue

00:44:42.780 signaling remarks but actually end up

00:44:45.440 doing nothing and we have the green saying

00:44:47.320 well maybe we should ban knives maybe we

00:44:49.920 should ban we should ban men in women in 1.00

00:44:53.740 and carriage train carriages macro

00:44:56.620 management of decline we have men in

00:44:58.900 balaclavas in Belgium coming in and just

00:45:02.380 firing Kalashnikov AK-47s pardon me why why do

00:45:08.440 we have to live like this are these people

00:45:10.180 here and just Millet gives us the answer if

00:45:13.360 anyone is talking about this in Europe they

00:45:16.700 are immediately being branded as 20th century

00:45:20.520 mid mid 20th century Germans by their own

00:45:24.340 establishment so we have an establishment

00:45:26.680 that in the name of protecting our democracy

00:45:29.480 is actually promoting incredibly unpopular

00:45:32.160 agendas it's turning the back on its people 0.95

00:45:35.500 on the native population it's mostly composed of

00:45:39.180 unelected bureaucrats who are essentially saying

00:45:41.920 if you want common sense you're far right

00:45:44.900 I'm going to destroy you that's no way to go 0.64

00:45:48.080 forward I've just come to accept that I may 0.96

00:45:50.380 actually be far right by their standards

00:45:52.200 oh really I would never have thought that

00:45:55.040 yeah I know I just accept yeah so I actually

00:45:57.320 don't want rampaging foreign we've got we've 1.00

00:45:59.760 got at the new culture forum we've got

00:46:01.260 coming out on Sunday uh what our new

00:46:04.120 documentary heresies and I think it's the

00:46:05.740 most powerful thing we've ever done and it's

00:46:07.280 called Britain's silent rape explosion and

00:46:10.500 it actually goes into to why we've seen this

00:46:13.380 great cover-up of the ethnic identity of the

00:46:15.560 perpetrators of rape not just in Britain but

00:46:17.560 in Germany in Sweden and elsewhere and of course

00:46:20.780 it's being covered up because the the our elites

00:46:23.540 can't accept don't want us to find out that

00:46:25.900 they're the ones who've actually caused the

00:46:28.060 identity and because yeah and because the

00:46:30.320 commonsensical belief that the role of the

00:46:32.260 police is to actually protect the liberties of

00:46:34.860 the people is was rejected by someone who said

00:46:38.500 well I want DI I want I want several ethnic

00:46:42.680 positions disseminated across some population

00:46:45.880 some positions and the job of the police

00:46:48.520 suddenly didn't become to ensure you're not

00:46:51.800 considering the abilities of the criminal yeah

00:46:53.920 it's DI DI is not about doing the job is about

00:46:56.400 getting the job correct or as musk said DI is

00:47:00.520 DI exactly yeah so the the more we see people

00:47:04.100 like Trump Millet and Bukele the better I hope 0.51

00:47:07.160 they change the paradigm in over of this side

00:47:10.220 of the Atlantic as well well what's interesting

00:47:12.320 though is that we've seen a great wave to the

00:47:16.040 swerve to the right across the west so you've

00:47:18.540 seen the most conservative government in New

00:47:20.540 Zealand now elected you've seen Geert Wilders

00:47:23.160 get going into power of course we have we have

00:47:25.340 Maloney as well who was invited to the

00:47:27.020 inauguration obviously Orban is there the rise 1.00

00:47:30.380 of the AFD and Le Pen and so forth and if you

00:47:32.760 look at last year analysis was done and the

00:47:35.780 gap between the right-wing share of the vote

00:47:38.520 and the left-wing share of the vote is at its

00:47:40.100 wide distance 1990 the left haven't been this

00:47:43.360 unpopular since the Cold War it's 46% of the

00:47:46.460 west voted for the right versus 40 versus 30

00:47:50.440 something for the for the for the left yet

00:47:52.580 despite that all of the levers of power all of

00:47:55.880 the media all of the institutions are still

00:47:58.500 perpetuating this left-wing global perspective

00:48:01.320 although that that may change since Donald

00:48:03.900 Trump and Elon Musk have torn out the

00:48:06.200 financial nervous system of their entire

00:48:08.120 network it turns out the left-wing media was

00:48:10.960 astroturfed by the US government if you can

00:48:13.480 believe it yeah weirdly not popular and but

00:48:17.460 it is remarkable though that there's still

00:48:19.240 you know a third of the country will still

00:48:21.160 vote for a policy which is essentially I would

00:48:23.240 like to destroy the country is it like because

00:48:25.840 they're not even shy about saying these things

00:48:28.180 anymore right these are the people with whom

00:48:30.580 their sympathies lie every criminal every

00:48:33.280 foreigner every bureaucrat everyone who 0.74

00:48:36.260 wants to make you poor and less safe lies in 0.54

00:48:39.440 the scope and the compass of left-wing activism

00:48:41.740 so if I mean who are these people voting for

00:48:46.280 Labour I can only assume that very old people 1.00

00:48:49.560 who haven't got the memo yet or something like

00:48:51.220 that anyway Bald Eagle says if Malay rescued 0.58

00:48:54.660 reduced inflation by that much by cutting

00:48:57.600 government waste I'm excited to see how fast

00:48:59.220 US inflation drops when Musk and Doge are done

00:49:02.220 cutting our government well I mean everyone

00:49:04.180 is to be honest I mean honestly who isn't

00:49:06.840 enjoying watching it right who isn't having a

00:49:09.360 great time every morning I wake up on my phone

00:49:11.860 is my American friends going nuts they've done

00:49:14.400 this is what is it now you know it's actually

00:49:16.720 nice to get daily news is good we have to live

00:49:20.520 vicariously through the new world in the old

00:49:22.580 world you have to understand and question for

00:49:25.640 royal expert Rafe are there any remaining

00:49:27.940 provisions in our laws that would allow a

00:49:29.660 hypothetical future monarch on our side to

00:49:31.980 step in and stop the destruction of the UK

00:49:33.380 well as quick as I understand it I mean

00:49:36.060 technically he could right yeah there's

00:49:38.480 nothing stopping his majesty from essentially

00:49:40.580 dissolving parliament and removing the prime

00:49:43.020 minister but of course it would create a huge

00:49:44.900 constitutional crisis and would probably lead

00:49:47.420 to the end of the monarchy itself because

00:49:49.840 unfortunately the great mass of the population

00:49:51.560 don't see the great fundamental crisis that

00:49:54.960 this nation is in you know I'd be willing to

00:49:57.300 flip the coin on that I think that a patriotic

00:50:00.060 king would be able to bring people against

00:50:02.240 parliament at this point well yeah I would love

00:50:05.880 to think that I'm not quite certain I agree

00:50:07.840 with you I don't I don't think it's Charles but

00:50:11.540 is there a saying we'll cross the bridge when we get

00:50:14.380 there yes just okay we're saying we could get to

00:50:18.960 the bridge anyway let's let's move on because

00:50:21.840 Britain is finally getting some nuclear energy

00:50:24.800 finally I mean this in the face of the

00:50:30.100 ideological net zero climate nonsense as you

00:50:33.040 can see here from only a couple of days ago from

00:50:35.580 the right honourable Ed Miliband and his

00:50:37.380 department for energy security the government

00:50:40.400 has launched an expanded net zero council and

00:50:43.520 it's just pure fanaticism from Miliband I mean

00:50:46.220 look at the graphics right they tell you

00:50:47.840 everything you need to know we're gonna have

00:50:49.280 wind turbines and we're gonna have solar energy

00:50:51.420 it's like oh are we oh well it's re-industrializing

00:50:55.000 Britain what wind turbines solar panels that's 1.00

00:50:59.040 not that's not gonna work is it idiot uh and 1.00

00:51:01.740 it's just like his entire twitter feed is just 1.00

00:51:03.900 this kind of woke net zero nonsense right and

00:51:05.900 so it's like right I'm glad this guy's in

00:51:07.660 charge of our energy uh needs in the future here's

00:51:10.740 their path their plan green pills oh my god he's

00:51:14.860 I just so quick aside right green energy when

00:51:20.720 they say green energy and they say oh we need uh

00:51:23.780 wind turbines we need uh solar panels what

00:51:26.320 they're saying is we want communism right that's

00:51:28.100 what they're asking for is what they're saying is

00:51:29.960 anything that would be productive and actually

00:51:32.080 help our society grow and flourish we are going

00:51:34.700 to marginalize and put in the that's evil camp and

00:51:38.300 we're going to take everything that is actually

00:51:39.700 fundamentally quite unproductive and try and

00:51:41.900 force it on you and try and get you to accept a 0.66

00:51:44.480 lower standard of living and so I mean they 0.99

00:51:47.320 she's saying this uh we are accepting the

00:51:49.880 government's central role in steering the creation

00:51:51.380 of this new energy system setting expectations for

00:51:53.780 the 2030 capacities of key technologies at national

00:51:56.060 and regional level we have high ambition that

00:51:58.300 means 43 to 50 gigawatts of offshore wind

00:52:01.900 why 27 to 29 gigawatts of onshore wind oh brilliant

00:52:07.080 that's going to look amazing thank you so much

00:52:09.060 and 45 to 47 gigawatts of solar power

00:52:13.120 we're in england what are you thinking

00:52:17.400 you are I'm going to go through this exactly the

00:52:20.940 numbers as well because this is crazy right

00:52:22.640 and so they're doing this to significantly reduce our fossil

00:52:25.480 fuel dependency because Ed Miliband is going to save

00:52:28.680 the world from total destruction in a cataclysmic

00:52:32.040 firestorm of global warming it's Ed Miliband he's going 1.00

00:52:35.240 to be the guy so you're not the guy Ed you're a moron 1.00

00:52:38.460 right and so they're going to spend 40 billion on 0.99

00:52:41.500 average per year between 2025 and 2030 because we're

00:52:45.460 just so flush for cash at the moment you see money

00:52:48.400 falling out of our pockets and so why not just say oh

00:52:51.840 there's a 20 billion black hole yes and that's why

00:52:53.660 we're going to spend 40 billion on this alone a year

00:52:56.260 for the next five years and so I mean why would we even glance

00:53:00.340 at solar power why would we this is the number of annual

00:53:03.340 sunshine hours a year obviously annual because this is

00:53:07.460 that Britain gets I can't open notes that Russia gets more

00:53:11.760 sunshine hours than we do right it is sunnier in Russia than

00:53:16.260 it is in England why would you ever mention solar power in

00:53:20.660 this country and the answer is of course because you're

00:53:22.600 ideologically captured right because someone in California

00:53:25.140 as you can see lots of sunshine hours in California

00:53:28.240 someone in California was like hey it's going to be a very

00:53:30.840 progressive thing to have solar power and that will be very good

00:53:33.460 for the environment and it will be progressive and friendly and

00:53:36.440 and blah blah blah blah and so Ed Miliband who's obviously been

00:53:40.040 programmed by Twitter has gone yeah good point we'll do the

00:53:43.280 same not thinking about how ideologies are any relevant in the time and

00:53:46.940 places where they emerge because they are actually concretely attached to

00:53:50.680 the circumstances the physical circumstances of the people who come

00:53:53.300 up with them and so if you're in Britain and someone says solar panel 0.99

00:53:57.320 power you know you are speaking to a retard to someone who has no brains 0.99

00:54:01.880 and doesn't know what they're talking about because I mean it's not it's 0.99

00:54:05.360 not even close it's just not even close this is from the American

00:54:08.620 energy departments uh thing and they've uh they've just got a nice

00:54:13.420 little graph here so what's the most productive form of energy oh it turns

00:54:17.880 out that it's nuclear by a mile it's five four times more productive than

00:54:22.940 solar it's three times more productive than wind because believe it or not at

00:54:26.400 some points the sun doesn't shine and the wind doesn't blow but at all

00:54:30.760 times the nuclear turbine is constantly producing energy and producing

00:54:35.440 steam to run a turbine it's all heated water okay everything all energy

00:54:38.800 production is just heated water um but the the point being it's just not

00:54:43.120 there's no discussion to be had it's completely unscientific to say

00:54:47.000 oh we need solar and wind no you're an ideologue you are someone who has been

00:54:51.460 programmed via twitter with a californian ideology that is

00:54:55.880 fundamentally anti-human because the real reason they don't go for nuclear and

00:54:59.340 this has been a long contention i've had

00:55:00.760 is that nuclear power would mean that the concerns about radical restructuring of

00:55:06.160 our society will go away there's no revolution in nuclear power how can they

00:55:10.580 tear down capitalism with nuclear power nuclear power is going to keep

00:55:13.840 capitalism going until the sun burns out i think that's really their problem any

00:55:19.440 thoughts at this junction before i continue ranting and raving i think

00:55:22.580 nuclear power is the way that's no no contest and the the only danger is that

00:55:31.080 someone will get uh be a di higher inside it that's the only issue i have with

00:55:36.540 nuclear power and that's entirely our own fault if that happens yeah it's not

00:55:41.320 exactly that it hasn't happened widely i mean your point about capitalism

00:55:46.500 interesting because of course france is arguably more left-wing than we are

00:55:50.340 though and they've managed to actually ensure that they that they are the most

00:55:54.220 independent energy independent nation in in europe and you know i think there are

00:55:58.840 56 nuclear reactors in france there are only nine in great britain and we are and

00:56:05.020 just as we invented the railways we are home to the world's first nuclear uh power

00:56:10.840 station or cardwell hall was it or whatever it was called and it just shows you how

00:56:14.920 we've lost that ambition we've lost all of that i often used to say you know when

00:56:18.680 did the greek stop being greek and now we can say when did the british stop being

00:56:22.040 british that great industrious nation and you just have to look at the short termism here

00:56:26.340 also because it was what it was over a decade ago that nick clegg famously said

00:56:30.340 we're not going to build any nuclear power plants it'll take 10 years take 10 years well that would

00:56:35.260 have avoided the entire energy spike that we've seen and that just goes to show you the thinking

00:56:40.220 that actually is in the minds of our leaders the irony the again i intended to be here 10 years

00:56:47.480 later i was here 10 years later nick you know and you know what and even if it wasn't for me even

00:56:51.760 if i somehow died i'd like my children and future generations to have it too like again it it's it's

00:56:57.400 not even a conversation that needs to be had the fact that we have ever entertained the solar and

00:57:03.180 wind lobbies is just preposterous and so the the only thing they have to fall back on is well it

00:57:08.960 sounds scary well the craziest one of all was angela merkel you'll remember in 2016 after the

00:57:14.640 fukushima tsunami she said well because of the tsunami we're going to close on everything that

00:57:19.540 remains in germany which is well known for its plague of tsunamis that descend on it every summer

00:57:25.940 constant constant problem but then they had to go back to coal power plants which would become

00:57:32.900 dependent on russia which both worked out just perfectly both from an environmental perspective

00:57:37.100 if you're really concerned about the global warming of the earth well you've gone back to your coal power

00:57:42.540 plants and you've made yourself dependent on russia who now you you allowed to essentially cripple you 0.86

00:57:48.120 when they invaded ukraine so brilliant and do you remember uh trump getting laughed at as well

00:57:52.540 they they laughed in his face when he said why are you making yourselves energy dependent on russia 0.99

00:57:57.640 stupid trump yeah who gets the last laugh anyway so let's talk about safety then because the last 0.99

00:58:03.280 and most honestly the weakest argument that they come to is well it's it's not safe it's not safe 1.00

00:58:08.980 no actually it is it is the the nearly the most safe so every uh every death from accidents and

00:58:17.480 pollution that have come from say coal is 24 deaths per 100 150 000 people with nuclear energy it's 0.03

00:58:25.200 deaths and with solar it's 0.02 deaths so not exactly dangerous and as you can see nuclear energy

00:58:33.020 produces less greenhouse gas emissions so look there's just no argument anyone who mentions solar

00:58:39.160 or wind just wrong on everything they've got no argument and they're trying to fear monger you

00:58:45.000 and there's just no reason not to do it how does one die from solar power is that one of the panels

00:58:50.180 hits you on the head manufacturing i assume or something like that yeah um but again it's it's one of

00:58:56.680 those persistent things that essentially nuclear power deniers have been saying and so the the question is

00:59:02.600 well do we have a good example of a country that actually decided to take up the nuclear baton

00:59:05.860 as rafe has already foreshadowed yes it's france france is doing amazingly with nuclear power and

00:59:11.680 it's genuinely and i'm kind of annoyed they're mogging us on this right they get to lord it over 0.99

00:59:18.660 us and say no you stupid anglos are doing the stupid german thing and we the the the brilliant and 1.00

00:59:26.200 incredibly lazy french get to indulge our laziness because of our cheap energy generation no i'm pro 1.00

00:59:32.160 nuclear for xenophobic reasons okay we need to get one over the french like france gets 70 percent of

00:59:40.120 its energy from nuclear energy right because they've had this long-standing thing and in 2014 when the

00:59:45.580 sort of uh green wave was coming france got it too and they planned to reduce it to only 50 percent

00:59:51.260 and that got scrapped because everyone's okay that's obviously stupid why are we doing that 0.55

00:59:54.820 and that worked out really really well for them and so they are a net exporter of electricity at this

01:00:00.500 point and that they export their energy they make three billion euros a year exporting their energy

01:00:06.740 because their energy costs are so abundant and their energy is so their energy costs so low that 0.99

01:00:10.940 they can sell it to the germans who are so stupid and block-headed about this subject they have 0.98

01:00:16.780 arrived at the point where they're now dependent on the french rather than the russians like what are 0.99

01:00:20.960 you doing what are you doing no one needs to be energy dependent on anyone actually at this point

01:00:25.320 and whilst france was building some of its new uh power stations remember gordon brown was

01:00:29.700 closing down our gas storage facilities as well making our energy security even worse

01:00:34.980 it's pure left-wing ideology that is against nuclear power right from a from a normal person's

01:00:40.680 perspective from a scientific perspective it is only nuclear that is the only game in town right

01:00:45.340 and if you think where are we going to get the uranium australia actually australia has

01:00:49.720 i think some of the second or third largest reserves of uranium so and canada does as well

01:00:54.480 there's massive reserves so we don't need to rely on russia for this we're completely dependent on

01:00:59.140 other anglosphere countries nations we can be guaranteed that are going to have a safe and

01:01:03.180 prosperous and welcoming relationship with us we will enrich them they will enrich us we all prosper

01:01:08.140 foreign powers who hate us fail and everyone wins like literally everyone wins there's no argument

01:01:15.500 against this i'm sick of hearing and so as you said britain only has nine nuclear power stations

01:01:20.600 france has yeah 56 and they're building a bunch more or they were building six more just because why

01:01:26.420 not if they're making you money why not you know again like it's actually a growth industry for the

01:01:30.680 french and they've got the most advanced technology these are that and what this does is produce only

01:01:36.000 15 of our nuclear of our energy production which is 6.5 gigawatts so for some reason we're going to

01:01:43.280 spend 40 billion a year producing ineffective inefficient like unreliable solar and wind or

01:01:52.100 we could spend only and in fact spoiler alert to build new power plants would cost between two and

01:01:58.780 three billion so we could literally build 20 new nuclear power plants a year the money they're going 0.75

01:02:04.220 to spend it's important to note that the new the new small nuclear reactors are much less expensive

01:02:09.980 much larger indeed uh so they're much easier to create and build yep the the um excuse me the

01:02:16.900 rolls-royce modular nuclear reactors again innovation taking place in britain for some reason this wasn't

01:02:23.380 all over the news and the governments weren't all banging the drum on this uh yeah each one costs

01:02:28.080 between two to three billion to make i'm going to spend 40 billion a year on it anyway why not spend

01:02:32.800 40 billion a year on this the only uh objection i have is the shape of the building that they're

01:02:38.140 proposing uh gothic please let's have it in gothic style um but yeah this is a completely feasible

01:02:45.560 thing to do there's absolutely no reason to do it uh not to do it and finally absolutely finally

01:02:52.920 keir starmer has been forced essentially to come out and go yeah look things in britain are so bad

01:02:58.400 even the labor government are like yeah we're gonna we're gonna start building some nuclear

01:03:02.000 nuclear energy uh we hate to do it because that means that the revolution isn't coming

01:03:06.480 obviously keir starmer lifelong leftist doesn't want this to happen but he has to make it happen

01:03:12.360 one thing that i find quite interesting as well this this became a bit mimetic so i don't know

01:03:17.000 whether you can see here these two cans represent all of the waste that all of the nuclear reactors

01:03:22.700 in britain have ever produced so not much really that's amazing and a lot of people like most of

01:03:29.880 the waste standing either side of the can yes as opposed to those two uh and a lot of people like

01:03:35.320 hmm do i drink the forbidden can um probably not it will literally rot your jaw off um but yeah so

01:03:43.640 anyway uh yeah oddly tempted to know what it tastes like can't can't be good can't be good but so

01:03:50.400 anyway yeah so as we found out recently uh keir starmer has actually finally capitulated on this

01:03:56.060 he's like yeah okay we'll we'll build nuclear if people have to live in britain then we will do it

01:04:02.500 um basically they're going to remove regulations and any uh objections that people have legally

01:04:09.740 and again it's more reason to loathe the tories because they were in power for 14 years they had

01:04:14.260 you know tories are notoriously nimbyist always thinking about it we can't have any power stations here or

01:04:19.880 there we've got the world's most expensive electricity or europe's expensive electricity

01:04:24.220 clear plan here we're giving 18 billion to the chagos islands how many of these smrs could we build

01:04:29.640 without you know uh well literally nine of them we actually have the numbers we could and i forgot to

01:04:35.920 bring up for this but um in in 2022 i think it was the tories commissioned a study to find out well

01:04:42.020 how many would we have to build and it turns out we would have to build six full-size nuclear reactors

01:04:46.700 to power every home in the country right and that would cost about 45 billion something like that

01:04:52.520 is that okay but that that would be worth it like if they were like okay no we're going to build just

01:04:56.540 you know one in each region of the country then essentially i mean you could literally you could

01:05:02.120 have you could run over labor saying look these are going to be government owned so they'll be

01:05:05.760 taxpayer funded and that means you'll never pay an energy bill again in your life right imagine the

01:05:11.200 god that would be incredible could have done it they could have done anything and it's left to

01:05:16.120 essentially being forced into this position because of how bad things are getting in this

01:05:19.600 country to say okay yeah look we're gonna have to go nuclear because loony bloody ed's plan on solar

01:05:25.600 and wind that's not going to last so we're gonna have to do something else otherwise we're all going

01:05:29.820 to go hungry and cold um so yeah basically finally finally some positive news in britain right

01:05:36.380 actually we might not be impoverished just paying for the heating bill during the winter

01:05:41.460 my god how long does it take to build one of these uh not that long either actually um i don't think i

01:05:47.200 have it to hand um but not that long so it could be within a couple of years and we actually see

01:05:54.060 dividends being paid on this um who knows god only knows let's please look because these aren't going

01:06:00.040 to be the full-size ones that the conservatives when they were like oh it'll take 10 years

01:06:02.800 yeah the rolls royce's modular nuclear ones are basically i think i can't remember off the top of my head

01:06:07.940 but it's not 10 years so it could be within a few years we actually get some bonuses and benefits and

01:06:13.000 something good happens in britain for once even under a labor government

01:06:17.800 matt says uh gen 4 nuclear plants can run on nuclear waste of old plants and take half-life from

01:06:23.800 centuries to decades yeah one one thing i didn't point out is that um nearly a fifth of france's

01:06:28.380 nuclear energy is from recycled nuclear waste actually so and that's a process that's getting better and

01:06:34.600 better and better as the iterations of the technology continue so again it's just there's no

01:06:39.320 downside to this uh weirdly they're not going to be run by soviet bureaucrats probably um sigil stone

01:06:47.940 says uh it's been openly admitted multiple times by the left themselves they hate nuclear because it

01:06:51.820 will provide cheap clean energy and won't bring about the global communist revolution yeah that's

01:06:55.720 exactly what it is um do we have video comments today

01:07:00.280 right okay uh charles says oh good rafe he's a jolly fellow and a bmx champ not many people know

01:07:07.600 that you're a bmx champ are you apparently so what is that oh uh the bmx is uh bikes and

01:07:15.500 you know the dirt bikes my last time on a bicycle was when i was 16 years old so perhaps not

01:07:20.440 uh charles i don't appreciate that fake news thank you very much about our guest

01:07:25.280 uh nick taylor says reform looked like containment also unfortunately yes well this is unfortunately one

01:07:34.620 of the downsides to reform is that it is entirely possible uh what people call containment which

01:07:40.700 is essentially uh keeping the blairite project on its rails what do you think about that well

01:07:48.480 maybe yeah better than the tories and labor though isn't it uh henry says uh the vote uh labor vote

01:07:56.600 was a vote of apathy uh the right wing disappeared or flipped reform and the centrist tory wets like

01:08:01.080 roy stewart started to tilt lib dem well no we don't know they didn't vote green uh lib have you seen

01:08:06.980 rory stewart making a public prat of himself recently recently every single time he tweets yeah yeah

01:08:12.460 getting demolished by jd vance and then giving a 110 iq response to this

01:08:18.080 i don't know why anyone listens to the guys and it's not just calling you know kamala harris the

01:08:22.720 winner you remember during when he was running to become prime minister he was very confident he was

01:08:26.680 very confident she was going to win but it's not just that when he was running to become prime

01:08:30.320 minister he's he said famously the eu will never reopen the withdrawal agreement three weeks later the

01:08:36.380 eu opened the withdrawal agreement for boris you know has he ever made a prediction that did come

01:08:40.920 true he's going to be like the uh the guy who predicts the stock markets that now people just run

01:08:45.640 an anti-him tracker uh the anti-kramer tracker or something you know it just goes to show you what

01:08:51.040 an euteronian education can do for self-confidence you know yeah yeah yeah yeah it's it certainly

01:08:56.180 it certainly does do that george says the government is the most powerful institution in most countries

01:09:01.260 they can do whatever they want because they have a monopoly of violence what governments are lacking is

01:09:05.240 will and care for the citizens uh yes but on the plus side the power of selection is still in our

01:09:12.380 hands so we don't have to choose labor or the conservatives we could i mean like you can say

01:09:17.640 a lot of things about nigel farage but one thing that i think is to his credit is that he obviously

01:09:21.360 doesn't hate britain right he's obviously not a hater of britain obviously likes the mythology of

01:09:26.480 britain and loves the country so as wet as he might end up being he's at least not hostile

01:09:32.840 which is a step up but you say we have the right of selection but the fact is you know only 20 percent

01:09:39.620 of the nation actually has for example a twitter account an x account and most of those don't

01:09:44.220 actually look at politics most people still consume the legacy media and until we smash that

01:09:49.320 people actually will continue to believe that he's far right and that there are no underlying causes

01:09:54.900 behind the rise of reform immigration or whatever it is we need to sort of break through that if we're

01:09:59.000 going to have any hope of really having a power to select the next government that is true that is

01:10:03.700 true so basically make sure that all of your friends and family use alternative media send them this

01:10:07.340 podcast uh peter says uh it's more likely that germany keir starmer will attempt to simply ban the

01:10:14.020 reform party now they're not they're not going to do that um the the precedent would be too outrageous

01:10:20.400 nigel farage is too much of a mainstream figure everyone knows who he is uh and i mean banning like

01:10:26.140 even quite radical parties is a bit contentious i don't really like the idea of the current ruling party

01:10:31.480 being able to tell me that that party's out of bounds even if that party is a nutty party i've never

01:10:37.020 vote for uh i don't i don't like the option not impossible to see some reform mps getting

01:10:42.380 non-crime hate incidents though i imagine a lot of pressure being put on them by on the police by

01:10:47.820 the labor government if they're getting worried you know yeah i don't doubt the rupert lowe's got a

01:10:52.100 list of non-crime hate incidents on his record um but that's why he's my favorite reform mp uh russian

01:10:58.420 says uh fantastic first segment i'll do my best to uh up the network of reform folks i'm friends with

01:11:03.660 so it reaches the right people well thank you very much uh henry says uh for me the tory party

01:11:07.880 has a very upper middle class attitude to issues whereas reform strikes me as more every man lower

01:11:13.000 to working middle class version of the world i wonder if that's why the southwest hasn't gone for

01:11:17.280 reform because it's seen as grubby somehow tories don't live in rough communities full of knife

01:11:21.640 crime nor do they get letters from the children's schools saying don't travel alone everything like

01:11:25.960 that is an abstract issue to the tory mp whereas it's daily life for a reform voter yeah there's

01:11:30.400 definitely um i don't want to say stigma because it's not quite the right um well that there's an

01:11:38.760 idea that the the platforms that appeal to reform voters are low status issues and there's a huge

01:11:46.240 amount of snobbery there uh but of course the reality is actually if you look at the reform leader i mean

01:11:51.440 it's an accurate view to make about the reform voters maybe but if you look at the reform leadership

01:11:57.060 they all look like old tories right and they're all they're all millionaire businessmen you know

01:12:01.940 alan bastard's from the new statesman if you remember that old comedy with rick mail uh and i think 0.83

01:12:06.560 actually that's part of a problem actually for a lot of people can't relate to the leadership of 0.95

01:12:10.420 their own party um even ben habib who was much more in tune with the voters he understood their cause

01:12:15.720 also another pride public school educated millionaire but the this this is the um the interesting thing

01:12:22.100 about the the southwestern the lib dems in the southwest because the southwest isn't anti-capitalist

01:12:27.400 as it were you know i can understand why in the north you would have this kind of sneaking suspicion

01:12:32.680 about the southern capitalist and understandably so but in the southwest we're not like that um and

01:12:38.560 in fact i think that that could be leveraged if it can be done in a genteel enough way um we are

01:12:44.800 quite snobby unfortunately and sensitive um very disappointing frankly uh i'm not going to read

01:12:52.800 out that name but uh it's entirely possible that labor the lib dems the greens and the smp form a

01:12:57.160 coalition together they're already very ideologically close the threat of a reform government could be

01:13:01.360 enough to get them together well i mean that is a potential danger on the horizon but i actually

01:13:07.540 think the zia yusuf is right i think they're going to form a majority i think they could get 350 400

01:13:12.260 seats it's really not beyond the realms possibility and they're they again we're only six months into

01:13:18.480 the labor government i mean imagine when two years in of kia starmer screwing the country relentlessly 1.00

01:13:24.020 every goddamn day and then coming out every time there's a terror attack essentially saying shut up 0.98

01:13:28.700 far right like sorry kia we all hate you already um good to see rafe back in swindon was nice to see 0.99

01:13:36.100 you at the united kingdom rally in the sweltering heat last year cheers for walking the crowd after it was a

01:13:41.000 pleasure it was great i didn't realize you were there yes no no i was that that was the day that

01:13:45.580 tommy robinson played his videos of the crowd you were on stage that day but i walked around i thought

01:13:51.020 it was important you know to engage with people there well one thing that uh david starkey made

01:13:55.780 a great observation about it was like um when when it's mostly men it's the football lads out doing

01:14:02.140 something trivial it's not very important but when their wives come out with them then you can tell

01:14:06.840 there's a real issue brewing and that was one of the things that really struck me is

01:14:11.320 the crowd was about half women it was very very gender balanced and so it was like okay

01:14:17.100 i think starkey's dictum there is correct there's a real problem that these people are responding to

01:14:21.880 which is why i take part in them you know i i agree it is a real problem everything's a real problem

01:14:27.000 um hector says love having rafe on the show his levity and wit is always welcome

01:14:31.560 thank you uh fuzzy toaster says the political class is unfit for purpose they need to learn to code

01:14:37.180 warlord wu tutai says rafe's point about japan unfortunately they have recently caved on

01:14:41.500 immigration and started to allow it it's only a matter of time until the first truck of peace

01:14:45.600 now i often hear this and also people in poland tell me well we're also going the same way

01:14:49.860 i mean this is all about scale yes they do have more immigration but we're talking about a very

01:14:54.800 different uh factor compared to what we've experienced in the west i mean as i said to you for example just

01:14:59.440 looking at the polish thing by 2050 20 percent of this country will be muslim 30 percent of sweden 0.99

01:15:04.880 in poland's will be 0.2 percent well the the the concern though is that the foot's in the door now

01:15:11.820 right and so a left-wing politician will say look we already do this i'm just going to double it and

01:15:16.500 double it japan is so homogenous they've got such a strong sense of their own culture and identity and

01:15:20.880 as i say once ai and robotics the main thing in japan as in here is who's going to look after our

01:15:26.060 elderly health care social care increasingly now that can be done by robots and automation

01:15:31.060 and with ai so i think that the uh you know it's a 20 30 year project to change a nation demographically

01:15:37.620 by that point i think the solutions will be there i do hope so but again like everything you're saying

01:15:42.720 could have been said about britain 50 years ago yeah but japan has a very different notion of self

01:15:47.740 and it is it is based it's it's a it's a racial concept of the nation well fingers crossed that

01:15:53.880 they they don't go down the road that we've gone down uh kevin says kemi is the tory's version of

01:15:58.920 kamala if they seriously wanted to win they'd choose someone who'd ruffle the feathers amongst the old

01:16:02.840 tory sweats uh to be honest with you i thought they should have gone for gemrick um obviously uh but

01:16:08.300 mostly gemrick the thing is though gemrick isn't charismatic and one one one thing that um

01:16:17.060 you realize after covering politics for long enough it's really just about likability

01:16:21.800 kemi is not likable if she was a very charming person who people just liked being around it 1.00

01:16:28.020 wouldn't matter that she was african that wouldn't matter at all and i suppose you could say that

01:16:32.060 actually maybe it's better to have kemi there because it just shortens the period of pain before 0.99

01:16:35.940 we only have one right-wing party yes if gemrick was there maybe we've probably prolonged for a

01:16:39.960 decade or so this might hasten the tory's death yeah no absolutely i mean gemrick went quite far

01:16:45.840 out of bounds in some ways as well saying we need to talk about english identity and things like that

01:16:49.980 i mean these are genuine things that need to be spoken about absolutely i think it's a yeah i mean

01:16:53.820 it's a pity he didn't say it years ago but i'm always inclined to believe people can have

01:16:57.820 damascene conversion some people think it's an act but i think it's genuine on his part

01:17:01.340 yeah i agree i think it was genuine as well um but i totally agree with you uh i'd rather he lost

01:17:07.600 and the tories just die off uh jimbo says the bbc are currently running a puff piece about how scared

01:17:13.120 sweden swedish immigrants are in light of that horrific shooting ah yes the real victims of

01:17:18.240 immigrant violence maybe they should stop shooting each other then the immigrants yes uh next time 1.00

01:17:22.980 there's an islamic atrocity i'm sure they'll be platforming the natives expressing concern about 1.00

01:17:26.320 muslims decimating europe uh well they could have done that for years now couldn't they 1.00

01:17:30.340 lord nerevar says i work in a libtardy environment and even my colleagues admit that trump is seriously 0.98

01:17:36.600 impressive in the way he conducts his government they hate his guts but they know what he is yeah

01:17:41.840 just as with thatcher you know admire her without loving her yeah you have to respect this

01:17:47.940 yeah and uh this was the main otherwise yeah you're just a tiktok activist yeah but this this is the

01:17:54.580 main concern that people had during his first tenure we didn't do anything okay well he's doing

01:17:58.260 it all now so uh kevin says uh how to improve the british police all dei hires hand in their hats

01:18:04.540 and batons and clear off you kevin you're showing your age there you think they've got hats and

01:18:09.760 batons they don't have high vis vests my friend uh no degree required to join the police and gain

01:18:15.940 promotion only male officers over six foot female officers over five for eight allowed such a wet um 0.99

01:18:22.180 all officers must pass the rigs at rigorous physical and medical examination application

01:18:26.220 and annually thereafter offer service in the police as an option for ex-military personnel

01:18:30.040 as a form of reserve service i mean that would definitely go a long way to to improving the

01:18:34.000 situation yeah but there should no women in uh frontline roles there should no women patrolling 1.00

01:18:38.520 the streets also no no one that looks like me should be patrolling the streets either you know do

01:18:43.260 admin roles report when someone's child has died or whatever but too many scenes of people

01:18:48.000 trying to apprehend a criminal who just laughs at them and runs off you know bring back the

01:18:52.660 constabulary uh omar says i absolutely do not trust faraj while he remains net zero level

01:18:58.620 soft on soft soft on immigration but the real politique of the situation is that you can say

01:19:03.560 nothing four years and coast to victory in a uni party fatigue alone being funded by zia yusuf

01:19:08.120 doesn't bode well for our chances you'll disenfranchise let alone oust foreign voting blocs 0.76

01:19:12.980 um yeah like i don't think reform represent uh the sort of um radical change that people are

01:19:20.120 looking for on the right but i do think there's better than nothing so better than having another

01:19:26.700 four or five years of labor and tories right so and who knows you know maybe trump will put a bit

01:19:32.060 pressure on him and say look just get on with it you know sort things out get on with it yeah

01:19:38.160 exactly um apparently yeah yeah yeah yeah again like i can't believe how kia starmer is constantly 1.00

01:19:46.780 dropping the ball like trump came out and said yeah i'm going to tariff you up i'm not going to

01:19:49.800 tariff britain though i like britain what are you doing kia get on the blur be like donald can i take

01:19:55.000 you up for a mcdonald's you know and he'll he'll go for it like chum again i kiss time it looks like a

01:20:01.200 shark doesn't he he's got the dead eyes of shark like he's got no emotive nature to him he's got

01:20:08.300 no personality it's hard to know what his wife loves about him right like normally you can identify

01:20:13.940 why a woman would be into a guy like that but you're like he's like a robot um anyway michael

01:20:19.500 says i spent 30 years working with emergency management around nuclear power plants uh the

01:20:23.560 output on these small uh footprint plants is just astronomical literally two gigawatts of

01:20:29.060 electricity from one reactor now we're discussing micro reactors small modular reactors that could

01:20:33.520 literally power entire towns off one reactor creating home grids in small town cities yeah

01:20:37.780 that's uh something i didn't get into is that the um the the modular reactors are something like 500

01:20:42.260 gigawatts of energy which is enough i mean literally it's one large town would just get one

01:20:47.200 plant and then you've got a network of plants that are kind of independent from one another so if

01:20:53.020 one goes out well then it's only one town that loses energy and you just replace it quickly

01:20:57.240 uh it's again what you would do if you wanted the country to succeed but of course the green

01:21:01.780 lobby hates us they want us to die so that's why they're against it uh jimbo says nothing has

01:21:07.640 hurt the perception of nuclear power more than the simpsons um yes and no i feel the simpsons

01:21:13.860 kind of domesticated the idea of nuclear power plants i think it's the three-eyed fish he's talking about

01:21:18.580 yeah so yeah yes and no but um yeah the the again this is uh it's a long-running bugbear of mine that

01:21:28.640 we even have this conversation about power generation the answer's been solved uh baron

01:21:32.680 from warhawk says i heard something similar from leftists on my college campus they were saying

01:21:36.520 mining on the moon and mars is immoral because it would just destroy the environment and ruin

01:21:41.180 these places natural beauty the natural beauty of mars i mean it is beautiful but there's enough space

01:21:50.860 you know i i i think this is overhyped i think mars is ugly it's it's just a desert a waste i disagree

01:21:58.240 yeah i know yeah there's there's nothing there there's no it's just rock and dust go to the grand canyon

01:22:04.900 if you want yeah uh henry says energies is one of the area energy is one of the areas of science i

01:22:12.220 find most infuriating it has been polluted by the political concept of the science as if it is some

01:22:18.220 fixed eternal outcome that can never be questioned never be reinterpreted and never invalidated someone

01:22:23.400 decided that the green solutions were best but metrics like cost per kilowatt hour the initial carbon

01:22:28.760 overhead of manufacturing and maintaining the infrastructure or how things are decommissioned at

01:22:32.700 the end of their life plus for things like vehicles battery tech is unfit for use in a lot of sectors

01:22:36.480 you can't replace 747 with an electric plane or way too much for example solar panels take up a lot of

01:22:41.420 space and use rare materials that are required to pay a tithe to china and basically end up in a landfill

01:22:46.000 when we're done with them onshore wind turbines kill a lot of wildlife for the yeah have you seen those

01:22:50.580 like birds with their wings chopped off and it's it's like oh this was an eagle i hate it it just really

01:22:58.800 annoys me but yeah and again the fact that a lot of these are just non-recyclable as well so they go

01:23:03.520 in landfills so this whole thing was again in in 50 years time we're going to look back on this and

01:23:08.940 think what are we doing why are we doing any of this um nuclear tidal and a lot of other technologies

01:23:15.300 like synthetic fuels have a lot of legs but for political reasons they're dismissed entirely entirely

01:23:21.180 political annoys me um alpha the beta says if climate change was an imminent political threat

01:23:26.520 we would commit to a crash program of carbon nuclear and carbon neutral nuclear power and figure

01:23:32.320 out the problem of nuclear waste later well there isn't really a problem because it's such a small

01:23:36.800 amount that like we've got uninhabited scottish islands we'd be able to fill up for like a million

01:23:41.860 years if we wanted to in these containers so it's not a problem i mean they can't use the the this as an

01:23:49.460 excuse for not doing anything yeah that's the world is constantly ending yeah constantly just yeah

01:23:56.300 i mean that's entirely the problem but uh but anyway we'll leave the whining about nuclear power

01:24:00.860 there i i'm it's again it's a personal bugbear of mine i just it makes me seethe that i have to pay

01:24:06.740 the electric bill every week every month um but right right so rafe um what is it you're doing at

01:24:12.140 the moment and where can people can people find more from you um well you can watch me every saturday

01:24:16.760 morning on the new culture forum youtube channel uh otherwise i have my own youtube channel where all my

01:24:21.960 other media appearances are posted and of course on x which i still call twitter at raf hm so what

01:24:29.560 what is it that you're um focusing on most at the moment intellectually uh well i'm uh in the process

01:24:35.220 of writing a book which should be the first of a series of books on uh essentially uh giving the

01:24:41.220 correcting the myths on history so uh my first one is essentially 10 myths about churchill which i know

01:24:47.740 a lot of your viewers and some of your team perhaps will disagree with me on you know but

01:24:51.480 correcting a lot of the prevailing myths uh on the left and right on on that uh and then doing my

01:24:58.100 usual stuff that i'm doing on immigration and islam and everything else so can you give me one of the

01:25:02.640 most prominent myths is i've i'm very tired of the discourse surrounding churchill world war ii and

01:25:08.720 adolf hitler because it boils down to well churchill was on the winning side of world war ii

01:25:13.840 hitler would have prevented woke ideology and mass immigration therefore hitler is responsible for

01:25:20.220 d uh churchill is responsible for dei and would essentially be a communist which is of course not

01:25:25.000 what is representative of churchill yeah well of course it's it's ridiculous to blame the policies

01:25:29.740 of tony blair and subsequent governments on you know a man who died in 1965 and who left office in the

01:25:36.160 1950s there's no possible way you can connect the two of those you have well you know every policy

01:25:41.500 is a is a creature of its own time you know it's up to other generations to change policies or

01:25:46.580 whatever he never had any vision of how britain was going to end up or turn out the idea that

01:25:52.580 churchill dragged america into the into the uh second world war he tried his best to get them in but it

01:25:58.000 was actually the japanese people may remember december the 7th who actually uh brought uh and then

01:26:04.120 germany declared war on america churchill had no responsibility for any of that also the idea that you

01:26:09.820 know of daryl cooper it was interviewed by tucker carlson that churchill was the villain of the

01:26:14.200 second war i can see myself losing a lot of people every time i talk about this about one third of my

01:26:19.440 normal normal supporters turn against me but uh this is the reason i brought it up just at the end

01:26:25.280 here is because it's something i see all the time and like i'm i'm as conversant with churchill as

01:26:30.660 anyone who's done british history in school which is not very um but uh by by modern standards

01:26:37.660 churchill would have been as far right and reactionary as it comes but there's no way he'd

01:26:42.100 agree with it well you know the the left are accusing accusing of racism and killing off all

01:26:47.320 these people in the bengal famine and then someone on the right and now saying well just thanks to him

01:26:51.020 you've got massive immigration you can't have it both ways either he's one or the other and the idea 0.97

01:26:56.080 that you could have sued for peace with hitler is a complete nonsense this is the other argument put

01:27:00.160 forward that churchill should never have allied with with the soviet union and this was a huge mistake

01:27:04.560 churchill you know from the moment of the revolution said we should strangle the baby

01:27:09.260 bolshevism in its cradle and in 1945 he wanted the americans and the british and the canadians and the

01:27:15.920 poles to carry on the war against the red army push the red army out of berlin out of germany out of

01:27:21.860 poland you know he saw the threat from from the soviet union more than anybody else did 1946 fulton

01:27:27.600 missouri from stetson in the baltic to trieste in the adriatic and iron curtain has descended nobody was a

01:27:33.200 bigger foe of of communism but the reality was as khrushchev and stalin both admitted had it not been

01:27:39.840 for for for russia for american and british aid russia would have collapsed and fallen and uh the fact is

01:27:47.060 if russia had collapsed then the axis powers would have controlled europe middle east oil fields africa

01:27:53.280 asia and australia australasia and then britain would have been a vassal state and eventually you know

01:27:58.500 because hitler had napoleonic uh and alexander the great and julius caesar uh delusions and he would

01:28:03.920 he wanted to achieve what napoleon never did conquer russia and conquer britain the the point

01:28:09.200 being though is that if uh churchill was brought to here and now uh he would be a radical far rightist by

01:28:16.740 any modern standards he would be completely against mass immigration as he was in his own time he'd be

01:28:22.560 completely against communism as he was in his own time and i'm not in any way suggesting that

01:28:27.480 churchill was perfect i don't think he was a great far from perfect and i'm not even talking

01:28:31.300 on a personal level i think he was a terrible strategist uh i i think he's he made a series

01:28:35.720 of military blunders but so what a lot of people did the point being i don't think he you can draw a

01:28:41.460 direct line between him and woke dei stuff and lay it at his feet again let i'm happy to oppose the

01:28:48.080 women's suffrage for example like churchill was kind of our reactionary in a lot of ways actually so i i am

01:28:56.140 kind of annoyed to see him getting thrown so hard under the bus especially when there are much more

01:29:00.440 germane people to the actual problem tony blair boris johnson anyway i'm not going to go on but the

01:29:06.640 the point being churchill was not nearly as bad as people on the internet are making him out to be

01:29:10.320 and he has a lot more in common with what we believe the way the world should be than what the

01:29:15.340 left believe yeah look there are many legitimate reasons to criticize him on his policy on india his

01:29:20.020 abdication crisis tying britain to the gold standard all of these the gallipoli the dardanelles

01:29:25.460 lots of issues but those are fine these ones and on from the left the bengal famine and all of this

01:29:31.560 there's no legs to that whatsoever yeah i agree i looked into that because i was thinking oh that's

01:29:35.440 a bit weird and then it turns out no it's nonsense uh unsurprisingly but anyway so uh on that note go

01:29:40.440 follow rafe on his various socials uh thanks for joining us and we'll be back in half an hour for

01:29:44.340 lads hour where i believe we are rating english kings uh so that should be fun see you then

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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - February 07, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1096

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