The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1100

00:00:00.000 welcome to the podcast of the lotus eaters for the 13th of february 2025 it's almost valentine's

00:00:08.080 day it's valentine's eve it is i hope you've got all your gifts i hope you're feeling particularly

00:00:13.760 romantic i know i am yeah yeah um hopefully no one's panicking here but today i'm joined by bo

00:00:21.520 and harry i just know that there's somebody with a girlfriend or a wife who's watching this right

00:00:26.480 now and shit it's valentine's day tomorrow oh god i forgot again the reason i brought it up is for

00:00:31.740 that very public service of people inevitably forget don't they the supermarkets will not be

00:00:37.480 out of chocolate just yet you can still make a very quick trip there once the podcast done down

00:00:43.220 to texaco and get a milk tray and some crappy flowers real quick it works it works whatever works but um

00:00:50.320 today we're going to be talking about the chaos in the congo um trump and his impact on geopolitics

00:00:55.840 i suppose in a general sense a very nice general segment and bow is uh going to be very nice and

00:01:03.820 white pilling today and talking about the prospect of an asteroid colliding with the earth yeah do

00:01:08.720 monger profit bow over here no no i'd put money on it doesn't come it doesn't hit us no i'll talk

00:01:14.760 about him as well sorry to disappoint you damn i know i'm on team asteroid as well but better luck

00:01:21.380 next time team asteroid i'm joking cheering it on i mean it depends where it hits

00:01:26.400 but on a completely unrelated note africa um no i'm joking but also not really it could hit africa

00:01:36.340 by the way that's true it could also hit south america india but i don't want to spoil too much

00:01:41.020 you may or may not have heard about the conflict between the congo and rwanda i wouldn't be

00:01:49.140 surprised if you hadn't and uh you might be saying josh what what are you bringing this up for there's

00:01:54.340 always conflict in africa is this news and i would say yes it is because there are multiple different

00:01:59.660 reasons it is important for people in the western world and not only is it interesting but also

00:02:05.400 the fact that these represent very mineral rich areas um certain sides of the conflict seem to be

00:02:14.880 backed more by western line powers than um others uh in that the chinese obviously and bricks more

00:02:22.260 generally are trying to align themselves obviously the chinese very keen to get influence in africa

00:02:27.460 because of all of the minerals and uh there's also the fact that lots of western money is pouring

00:02:33.100 into these countries and so i wanted to look at all of this and how it intersects with the com

00:02:37.800 sort of conflict more generally and i'm just going to presume that nobody knows anything because

00:02:42.460 um until i did the digging i didn't either and so here is a size comparison of rwanda in orange

00:02:50.540 versus uh i think that's the democratic people's republic of the congo isn't it or the longer named

00:02:57.320 one because there's also another congo here um just called as a congo which has a shorter name

00:03:02.680 yes so to be clear it's the big one and uh versus that tiny little country there and you might think

00:03:09.840 well that's going to be quick well uh not actually rwanda's got a lot of experience murdering people

00:03:15.400 so that is true and that's an excellent excellent segue so a lot of this kicked off following the

00:03:22.700 rwandan genocide of 1994 and pretty much there's been a breakdown of relations between rwanda and the

00:03:28.860 congo um ever since and so after the tutsi rebels obviously led um by paul kagame their current leader

00:03:37.040 of rwanda they put a stop to the genocide about a million ethnic hutus who were the perpetrators of

00:03:43.780 the genocide fled to the congo basically fearing reprisals for what they had done which makes perfect

00:03:49.740 sense so the fleeing hutus and many of the ethnic hutus that were already in the congo formed

00:03:56.580 democratic forces of the liberation of rwanda which um clue is sort of in the name they wanted to

00:04:03.680 overthrow the tutsi rwandan government don't they and then um since that the rwandan army has invaded

00:04:11.780 twice um accusing the congo's government of supporting their hutu enemies which to be fair

00:04:18.040 that's a pretty good case for that and there's also uh their own pro-rwandan rebel group in the

00:04:26.240 congo known as m23 um rwanda denies that it's backing them but it's pretty obvious because they're

00:04:32.060 supplying them and all but instructing them and how to sort of conduct their war uh in collaboration

00:04:39.520 with their formal military and they're supported as well which further supports this notion with

00:04:45.400 4 000 rwandan troops which sort of suggests that yes they are supporting them it's also reported as

00:04:51.200 well although i've not been able to confirm this that uganda is also backing these rebels

00:04:54.600 um but who are m23 so here's an example of some of them there um they were created in 2012 and they're

00:05:05.120 led obviously by ethnic tutsis and they claim that they need to take up arms to protect themselves and

00:05:11.560 given the recent genocide i can sort of understand where they're coming from uh they take their name

00:05:17.200 from a peace agreement that was signed on the 23rd of march 2009 and they had previously seized the

00:05:23.720 congolese city of goma which um spoiler alert they've done again recently and we're going to talk

00:05:28.720 about that um but they were forced to retreat um and suffered a series of defeats and then there was

00:05:34.920 a sort of peace agreement where they agreed to be integrated into the rwandan army um in return for

00:05:41.140 a promise that tutsis would be protected but then in 2021 the group took up arms again um because they

00:05:46.440 said that the promises had been broken and what we're seeing here is a continuation of that so the

00:05:53.240 leader of the group is this guy um that's not very zoomed in if you could zoom in a little bit see this

00:05:58.280 cheerful chappy there there he is this is the leader of the rebel group um his name is sultani

00:06:03.880 makagengi or makagenga sorry um get it right and um he's a congolese tutsi that previously fought in

00:06:11.540 the rwandan army so the links with the army are pretty clear and um on a completely unrelated note

00:06:19.520 um we also have a merch store um seamless transition you're welcome i couldn't think of any good way to

00:06:27.540 segue that um we have some uh islander 2 merch that is going to be disappearing off the store when

00:06:33.760 we launch islander 3 so if you like the look of the islander t-shirts or the mugs uh you need to

00:06:39.200 pick those up before we take them off the store and move on to the next line so it's a sort of final

00:06:43.660 call for that we've got any kagame merch uh not yet kagame merch no the art of the deal

00:06:49.600 millions and millions of pounds for your country in return for absolutely nothing every single time

00:06:56.860 works over and over again he's a canny operator i'll give him that he really is

00:07:00.680 so this is the map that's being used to justify it this is a um sort of pre uh pre-colonial yeah i

00:07:10.160 suppose uh whereby you can see it's encompassing a much larger territory i think it's the stuff in

00:07:18.060 loo in particular that they're interested in that certainly pushes into congo territory it does indeed

00:07:24.320 yeah you can see that saying well we controlled this territory before and you know we have a claim

00:07:31.020 to it which to be fair i can sort of see but the important thing is that the eastern congo has

00:07:37.840 deposits of minerals estimated to be valued at around 24 trillion us dollars which is a lot of money

00:07:45.660 needless to say and things like gold and tin and colton which i wasn't familiar with but is used in

00:07:53.060 many electronics like phones and cameras is abundant there and so it's going to be a very important

00:07:58.880 region if you want to make a lot of money which i imagine they probably do and i've seen public

00:08:05.960 figures this is a rwandan news anchor um talking about these maps as a justification for it and i'm

00:08:12.740 going to read ever so quickly what she says they eliminated our people who was born in rwanda same

00:08:18.380 language same culture that they are congolese which is fine based on the post-colonial borders and they

00:08:24.280 are after they are being told what they are not congolese being i'm reading this directly by the

00:08:29.720 way being uh killed forced to leave to go where what are they are they rwandans of course no they

00:08:36.200 are refugees here too they don't have rights in their homeland they are forced to flee around the

00:08:40.400 world and western countries which are looting their land tend to give them refuge yeah that narrative

00:08:45.600 seems to be going on that west is exploiting the conflict for minerals but also that's sort of

00:08:50.560 what is going on here from both domestic sides as well so i don't know what they're on about

00:08:55.260 really i don't think that's anything to do with it that first paragraph you were reading there

00:09:00.300 it's not the most well written is it no can you translate i think she supports what's going on oh okay

00:09:08.320 all right okay i think that that's the gist of it but um the important thing that's gone on recently

00:09:14.560 is this that m23 that rebel group the pro rwandan group has captured the city of goma which is just

00:09:23.220 off of the border between the congo and rwanda and it's a city of a million people and it's also

00:09:29.720 important um if i show you actually where it is so here you can see there's the border of rwanda

00:09:37.300 um there's the lake we saw um and and the city's just there over the border but this is important

00:09:44.320 because it's a trading and transport hub for metals and minerals um and they process things like the

00:09:50.900 gold tin and colton we're talking about earlier and um apparently according to the un if they're to

00:09:56.680 be believed last december around 120 tons of colton is being sent by m23 to rwanda every four weeks

00:10:03.320 so it seems like they're they've sort of capitalized on these mining operations already by taking control

00:10:08.540 and they've also noted a rise in rwanda mineral exports which suggests that they're already

00:10:13.560 utilizing these resources um they've also the rebels in um the m23 rebels have threatened to march on

00:10:20.220 the capital um kinshasa um the capital of the congo um but that's unlikely because it's 1 600 miles away

00:10:30.220 so i don't see that um happening anytime soon it's a very long march isn't it um but yes as you can see

00:10:37.760 they've still got quite a way to go because the capital's all the way around here somewhere

00:10:46.280 uh down on the eastern border there there you go so i don't see them getting to here sorry western

00:10:52.040 border from all the way over here and one of the the countries with the least amount of infrastructure

00:10:57.820 in the world so just hiking through the entire country basically i don't think it's going to

00:11:03.300 happen what what's more like zoom in so we can see the incredible road network that i'm sure that

00:11:07.800 the democratic republic has there it is there's a there's a few roads i'm sure paved the entire way

00:11:15.740 i do the uh the random street view test oh wait there's nothing there oh wait can you not that's

00:11:20.820 the only point that comes up oh okay and it's a hotel never mind this is we're losing focus it's

00:11:27.520 also worth mentioning as well that there are western mercenaries involved you can see these these people

00:11:32.440 are not african um what gave it away how can you tell racist or something it's their manner of dress

00:11:39.060 obviously um yes these people i'm not sure who they're fighting for um but highest bidder i'd

00:11:46.760 imagine yeah i would imagine probably rwanda um but we'll have to see uh it's also worth mentioning

00:11:53.880 as well that south africa sent a peacekeeping force that surrendered after only taking 13 casualties

00:12:00.640 um here's a video of them waving a white flag but you know what that looks like um

00:12:05.440 so there are also apparently un peacekeeping troops as well that have been keeping the peace

00:12:10.440 supposedly since 1999 and they have 10 000 troops there um most of which are not able to actually

00:12:17.340 carry out offensives so they can only fire at people if they're fired upon and so um as with

00:12:22.760 many un things they're not that useful really other than for just keeping order so let's not doing a

00:12:29.720 great job of that either no um so let's actually have a look at what's been going on because uh

00:12:35.120 spoiler alert there's a horrible atrocity um about to be discussed if you don't want to hear about

00:12:40.480 it um you know here is your warning about african warfare i know there is um so in the city of goma

00:12:48.580 there was a prison and there was a female wing to the prison and when the rebels turned up

00:12:55.720 they uh sexually assaulted all of the women and then went on to burn them alive in the prisons

00:13:02.540 which is awful i don't know how much more barbaric you can get and there is um video here of

00:13:12.040 people at this prison seemingly just running away i think these are some of the male prisoners that

00:13:18.380 have just escaped the prison um during the conflict which is exactly what a war-torn region needs is all of

00:13:24.600 their criminals released but you get the gist of it now so i've seen this as well it's very difficult

00:13:33.140 to actually piece together from videos what's going on there's a video here of people seemingly

00:13:40.600 just leaving of their own free will but there are you can see soldiers with weapons as well

00:13:45.780 not sure if they're being forcibly removed but it all seems fairly peaceful it could just be that

00:13:53.140 they're guarding the flow of people it's very difficult to tell um but there have also been

00:14:01.220 videos of them uh the m23 rebels getting a good reception and here's one here

00:14:07.540 i don't know if we cut it up a little bit

00:14:10.420 hear them whistling and cheering

00:14:13.620 you get the idea let me get this all straight goma is in the democratic republic of congo

00:14:29.000 and m23 are as far as the congolese government are concerned are rebels

00:14:35.700 but they're pro-ugandan clearly pro-ugandan sorry sorry pro-ruandan but they are also pro-ugandan as

00:14:43.240 well potentially sorry but pro-ruandan and so what the in as a general broadly speaking the people of

00:14:50.640 goma are pro uh rwandan then well if they're welcoming these people the m23 guys is liberators

00:14:59.780 this is unclear um because no one's actually said where this is sorry i need to click on it again

00:15:07.340 um so it does look i need things are unclear yes exactly um as with all conflicts in africa but it

00:15:14.560 does seem like there is some organic support that's the point i'm trying to make is that there clearly

00:15:19.280 are people that um would rather be associated with them than the congo um however there have been some

00:15:26.540 interesting activities um like looting and uh i don't know what was going on here because

00:15:32.880 what they're looting is leaves and carpets if i could do uh i don't know why they're stealing palm

00:15:41.160 leaves um and shortage clearly are looting the leaves they're looting the carpets and some of them

00:15:48.640 i assume are good people i mean the carpets i can understand um broken into someone's car nicking

00:15:58.920 their stuff but it's basically overseen uh breakdown of law and order more so than usual um because of

00:16:06.280 course to western standards it wasn't orderly to begin with um and there are lots of other examples

00:16:12.860 of this um here are some western looking houses being looted uh you can see here these may be sort

00:16:20.580 of compounds house humanitarian workers un workers i would be surprised if this was owned by

00:16:29.200 the native population that's true yeah i'd also be surprised why they would be looting

00:16:36.400 yeah i think it's just a western compound to be honest yeah and they're looting and setting it on

00:16:44.120 fire but mostly peaceful yeah and here's some more looting uh if you hadn't had enough

00:16:50.400 it seems to be the default response if every if law and order breaks down then everyone just starts

00:17:00.180 stealing stuff and you can see um some other ones as well it's very similar uh you know when we had

00:17:06.080 like the uh the 2011 riots in england as well to be fair people just like to steal if they get the

00:17:10.980 opportunity this is also the capital of the congo which remember 1 600 miles away um and they're still

00:17:20.820 looting in their own capital when there's actually no threat whatsoever so this is obviously perfectly

00:17:27.300 reasonable reaction then the rwandans are coming they're a thousand miles away quick start looting

00:17:33.640 do we know like these people for example other than perhaps just complete opportunists are they

00:17:41.360 sort of pro rwandan people i don't know it is impossible to tell i think um you have to sort of be

00:17:49.600 able to uh live in that area and tell who is what ethnicity right um and i can't tell that from cctv

00:17:58.640 footage i'm i'm not that good unfortunately but um yes letting the side down josh what did we hire you

00:18:05.540 for i'm trying i thought you were a scientist man haven't got my hands on enough calipers i'm afraid

00:18:12.100 um but anyway they also set fire to the u.s embassy in the democratic republic of the congo as well

00:18:19.060 because of course they did even though the u.s is not really directly involved here it is

00:18:26.320 has the u.s even made a statement on this uh the bitter irony is they've condemned rwanda

00:18:33.920 and the congo responds by burning their embassy

00:18:38.200 it's strange um don't really know justification for this but it is something that did happen

00:18:46.480 and um what has the response been to all of this going on because um you know this isn't necessarily

00:18:54.060 something new however it's still very important because it is going to inform the political climate

00:19:01.360 in the west because uh well i don't want to spoil what i'm going to get on to as well as the fact that

00:19:07.580 control of these mineral deposits is very very important how many how many congolese are we getting

00:19:13.280 don't pre-sage what i'm going to say how many just rip the band-aid off rip the plaster well do it

00:19:20.540 it's only been discussed nothing's nothing's actually been said but obviously the leaders of

00:19:26.220 the congo have urged young people to enlist in the army which is somewhat expected uh here's an article

00:19:32.300 from the washington post from 2019 talking about how women are actually fighting as well

00:19:37.620 might actually see some uh women on the front lines i'm sure that us aid money for all those

00:19:42.840 programs are going to good use there is it the congo or the democratic republic of congo that's one

00:19:47.920 of the sexual assault capitals of the entire world yeah i thought so we'll be getting onto that don't

00:19:54.060 worry great minds harry uh so yes um their neighbors the neighboring countries around them have

00:20:00.060 encouraged them to talk with the rebels and the government uh to try and come to some sort of

00:20:04.540 peaceable solution i think they're concerned about it bleeding out and causing more um disruption and

00:20:10.660 there's also been a summit of the east african bloc demanding an immediate ceasefire and encourage

00:20:15.960 dialogue with the rebels as well so sort of going along with the surrounding nations the un the us

00:20:20.920 france and the uk have condemned the actions um and not placed sanctions on rwanda and i think that

00:20:27.260 the reason for this is actually they're sort of supportive of rwanda because they're more western

00:20:32.260 aligned than the congo is and if rwanda gets access to these minerals then it means

00:20:37.580 rwanda is going to be selling them to us and so it's actually kind of good convincing man

00:20:42.800 so it's sort of one of those things where they're publicly saying oh we don't support it but

00:20:47.920 you know it's like don't worry paul we we got guys yeah i think that that's what's going on

00:20:53.760 and then um paul kagami needs me and um the south african president cyril ramaphosa um has accused

00:21:03.520 the rwandan defense force militia of inciting the conflict in the first place remember the south

00:21:08.880 africans suffered 13 casualties before cowardly giving up um and this has led to basically paul

00:21:16.520 kagami coming out and saying um if you respond with your military i'll respond with mine and uh it's

00:21:22.440 also worth mentioning as well we were talking about this yesterday in the office but it's very

00:21:26.800 likely that paul kagami once had a twitter burner account which he went under the name richard goldston

00:21:33.380 um and one of the things he did was call the african union useless and call south africa's president

00:21:42.480 a black this is his words by the way a black retard

00:21:47.680 why he said this i i know they have their political disagreements but why that was the go-to

00:21:55.840 one i do not know i don't know if you've seen there's a there's a meme image that comes up of

00:22:00.780 like the composites of an english man's face and a german's man's face and it's basically the same

00:22:05.600 thing and it's the english man telling the german i hate your kind stay away from me

00:22:10.460 but it reminds me of that but yes uh rwanda and south africa do not get on and um let's get on to

00:22:20.140 the do-gooders um which are not actually do-gooders they're terrible people that will bring a ruin to

00:22:25.160 our civilization but uh here is carla denya who i think represents bristol the green party say

00:22:34.280 she wants to bring civilians we must be opening up safe routes so that the sudanese refugees

00:22:40.960 she's also talking about the democratic republic of the congo they're able to settle in the uk

00:22:46.020 and she was appealing to the foreign secretary about this there are people trying to say well

00:22:51.040 we've seen what they're doing over there what we need is more of that over here

00:22:55.480 bring them to the west country put them in bristol

00:22:57.400 to be fair they would fit in in bristol these days put them in bath

00:23:01.820 putting in the most lovely places in southern england why not why not

00:23:05.760 somewhere that they've never heard of before where they can fit in overnight

00:23:10.220 so may i remind everyone what harry alluded to earlier that um the democratic republic of the congo

00:23:17.620 is often referred to pretty openly as the rape capital of the world which is not the kind of place

00:23:23.660 that you want to be getting citizenry from i wouldn't want to offend liberal sensibilities

00:23:28.540 but that is not because of the geographic location or some top-down culture that's been imposed on

00:23:34.640 them that's because of the people who live there that's that's how they behave it won't change when

00:23:41.060 they come over here and here is cnn admitting this as well just in case you know you think i'm being

00:23:47.500 uh uncharitable if even the left-wing media is just like well actually you know it is kind of true

00:23:53.340 uh it's also worth mentioning um here is the guardian uh talking to a soldier 11 years ago

00:24:00.320 and this soldier had uh sexually assaulted 53 different women and that's just one soldier

00:24:07.580 worth mentioning um it's also worth mentioning as well a 2010 study of 18 sub-saharan countries

00:24:15.000 um concluded that over half the population believes in witchcraft magic and voodoo

00:24:19.720 which um leads to this though so there's an interview of rebel soldiers in the congo and

00:24:28.120 and they were asked why do they do this and their answer was that it gives them magic powers to make

00:24:35.560 them better at fighting that is their real justification all of the soldiers they spoke to

00:24:41.240 admitted to uh several sexual assaults and uh they all cited this justification and the the person

00:24:49.880 interviewing them i'm not going to play it because it's quite long um but it will be in the reading

00:24:53.640 list on the website if you wanted to actually watch the whole thing um he asked them well is this like

00:25:00.260 a patriotic duty because some of the women sort of willingly just accept that this is what happens

00:25:07.240 what is normal in their uh country and so they see it as a sort of a twisted act of well i'm supporting

00:25:14.760 the troops but in a very horrible and disgusting way and it's also worth mentioning as well um it's

00:25:22.680 empire of dust isn't it the documentary that this is from where the the workers in the congo are trying

00:25:28.660 to build roads and the chinese um overseer i suppose it's just frustrated that they're completely

00:25:37.260 incapable of there are some fantastic clips from this that we've shown on the podcast before but

00:25:41.560 you should really track the whole thing down and again this this behavior does not change the second

00:25:47.440 they come into europe it does not change by giving them access to big swanky hotels and benefits and

00:25:53.220 western civilization and culture it does not change when you try to teach them not to rape people

00:25:58.080 this is how these people are and what's worse is we are putting money into these countries for free

00:26:05.240 the uk taxpayers and nine and a half million supporting accountability and inclusion

00:26:10.500 in the democratic republic of the congo apparently i don't know why that is necessary

00:26:17.220 just a massive waste of accountability for what the all the rapes they commit because they don't care

00:26:24.260 that's not happening yeah and inclusion of what what are we all rapists being but um the u.s as well

00:26:33.100 over a billion just about in u.s aid grants to the congo and uh here rwanda receives more u.s dollars

00:26:40.940 in aid per capita than all its neighbors and 40 percent of rwanda's budget is made up of foreign aid

00:26:46.340 and uh yes i wonder which side they're going to align themselves with i wonder why this is going on

00:26:52.820 it's obvious that they're basically buying rwanda's loyalty because they have all the minerals that's

00:26:57.420 what's going on and uh it is worth mentioning as well that paul kagame actually said that trump

00:27:02.520 did a good thing in getting rid of us aid even though it damages them he says i agree with this

00:27:07.060 even though we're hurt we're going to learn some lessons about how to do these things ourselves

00:27:10.860 that's a remarkably moderate way to address it i was not expecting that kind of reaction

00:27:16.600 fairly yeah so um fair enough on his part um you know not that he would turn down free money

00:27:23.080 understandably and it's also worth mentioning as well of course that donald trump um has been very

00:27:28.760 critical of south africa and so all kagame has a common uh enemy with trump there in uh the anc

00:27:36.460 and it seems like there's a coordinated effort between trump and the sort of pro-western african

00:27:44.420 countries to turn on the south africans which will be very interesting because if basically the entire

00:27:49.860 continent is against them and the world's most powerful country then that's going to be very

00:27:54.600 very important and it could determine the fate of africa because at the minute that there's a sort

00:27:59.200 of second scramble for africa going on where they're scrambling for just resources basically it's all

00:28:04.240 about um resources for electronics rare earth minerals that's exactly it and um yeah this is

00:28:11.140 something that gets overlooked but is actually very important in the grand scheme of things not only

00:28:15.000 because we could get the refugees we're paying a lot of money into the countries but also um it could

00:28:20.440 severely impede our technological development if we don't have resources being exported to us from

00:28:25.940 these countries all right we've got a rumble rant uh dropping in oz as i'm on a lunch break at work

00:28:34.520 says johnny logo um here's a tip for the lotus gang have a good day lads i'll catch you um up on the vid

00:28:41.740 later well that's very kind and uh i hope your work day goes all right and um thank you wonderful well

00:28:49.340 i wanted to take a look at some of the more recent developments that have been going on with trump's

00:28:53.600 foreign policy because that is one of the most important things that's going on obviously they've

00:28:57.280 got the domestic policy but the foreign policy especially us aid is stuff that's affecting

00:29:01.320 the rest of the world including europe so it's always interesting to look at first something

00:29:05.960 that direct us even more something that impacts us directly is whether you've bought our merch or not

00:29:12.580 which you should do this islander merch is only available for a very limited time now before the

00:29:17.440 release of islander 3 so you should pick it up while you still can or else josh will not eat

00:29:23.580 tonight it's true i'm wasting away he's basically destitute without this so look at this it's not

00:29:32.100 even a ring of fat anymore it's not even a healthy paunch there now it's just waste anyway that's right

00:29:39.880 so uh on the subject of us aid something interesting came out that i saw earlier today that i wanted to

00:29:45.380 highlight everyone uh get um highlight attention to uh which was that uh there is a small nation if you

00:29:52.600 want to know why us aid is uh it's good that it's been paused for the 90 days and hopefully most of

00:29:58.700 it will be cut entirely if not all of it if we're perfectly honest because it was literally just

00:30:03.160 a way for the american deep state to fund leftism across the world uh there is a tiny nation in africa

00:30:10.720 between south africa and mozambique called eswatini that last year received 50.5 million dollars

00:30:17.960 of us aid and that was to address the rampant hiv epidemic and this person cringe panda has included

00:30:26.100 an excerpt to show what kind of culture eswatini has um from a um a substack post of somebody who

00:30:33.980 went to go and conduct um foreign aid there for a few years and she explained her experiences while

00:30:40.840 she was there and she said it was an hiv vector so there was hiv money available at one point a local

00:30:46.080 hiv related ngo purchased a billboard over the largest public transit hub in eswatini which said

00:30:52.620 are you thinking of raping a child today think twice of the consequences i mean i agree with the

00:30:58.860 sentiment here's a here's a here's a picture of the billboard what yep what how is this real 50 million

00:31:07.100 dollars 50 million dollars to this country it's also worth mentioning as well that eswatini as its name

00:31:13.000 suggests is very small and um is entirely surrounded by south africa like it's a little little tiny dot

00:31:19.660 on the map that you have to look quite hard to even see so 50 million for such a small basically a

00:31:24.840 micronation is a lot of money which has such a problem with child sexual assault that you have

00:31:31.740 to put up billboards for it is this what u.s taxpayer money was supposed to be going to when the founders

00:31:37.380 enshrined the constitution and the other founding documents and the uh and the declaration of

00:31:43.200 independence is this what they thought their nation would be putting money towards less than 300 years

00:31:49.900 later i'm gonna try and sort of reconcile the you know the rage of some of the american taxpayers in

00:31:56.740 the audience and point out that it's a lot better than drag shows in ecuador and you know and what

00:32:03.040 was it gender studies in albania at least it's you know preventing something that i think everyone

00:32:08.140 wants to prevent that's true but at the same time i don't think i think a culture where you have to go

00:32:12.740 this far is beyond repairing and you can throw as much money at the wall as you want it's not gonna

00:32:18.420 it's not gonna do anything the thing is that seems to suggest that the consequences they're worried

00:32:22.860 about is hiv hiv not the psychological devastation of the child or anything not just the the moral

00:32:28.780 awfulness of it in the first place yeah yeah there's a lot is awful and wrong with this picture

00:32:35.160 but that's just one of the things that i wanted to let everybody know your taxpayer money for the next

00:32:39.020 little bit of time is not going towards another thing it's not going towards right now is apparently

00:32:44.620 rory stewart's wife uh she she runs a company uh that has uh let me see if i can find the name of it

00:32:53.740 the turquoise mountain foundation that was getting money from us aid and now that the payments have

00:32:59.100 been cut uh she's lost out on a million dollars oh no how terrible i know so it's gonna have to make

00:33:05.500 money like everyone else so there's another thing we can blame us aid for which is rory stewart in

00:33:11.220 general terrible crime i know this is one of the greatest crimes america has ever committed against

00:33:17.640 its allies as far as i'm concerned funding rory stewart and therefore by proxy the the rest is

00:33:23.660 politics podcast as well with alistair campbell so there's a whole network of evil going on there

00:33:30.320 but thankfully it's been cut off from some of its funds for now but if we return to africa josh

00:33:35.900 mentioned in the last section segment that um trump has been going against south africa i mentioned it

00:33:40.780 yesterday but to go into a little bit more detail of it from this foreign policy article talking about

00:33:45.860 what's going on there right now so he's cut aid to south africa last week and this was uh on the

00:33:52.260 orders of an executive order that he signed uh due to unjust racial discrimination that's been going on

00:33:57.840 against the boers and particularly the white farmers in south africa over the country's land reform law he

00:34:04.720 also cited south africa's international court of justice genocide case against israel which is very

00:34:10.160 funny coming from south africa an anti-south africa stance was predicted by a key to be a key feature of

00:34:16.140 the second trump administration's foreign policy given pretoria the capital of south africa their

00:34:21.360 friendly relations with russia and china but few would have foreseen the executive order south african

00:34:26.920 media queried whether trump was even aware that afrikaners differed from english-speaking whites like

00:34:32.420 his south african-born billionaire advisor elon musk that doesn't matter this foreign policy article is

00:34:38.900 quite funny because it has quite a number of attempted gotchas in there as a as you would expect

00:34:43.660 from nosmot gabadamosi who wrote it um so yeah don't you understand he's not even english these

00:34:51.900 africaners they're not even okay don't care don't care south africa is uh discriminating against them

00:34:58.520 attempting to take property from them abusing them attempting to genocide them in its own little way

00:35:03.860 you've got mainstream politicians over there um calling for a genocide of the boers saying kill

00:35:09.520 the farmer kill the boar i think that takes precedence over whether they speak english or not

00:35:13.900 which by the way they do what is the criticism here that he's not being ethnocentric enough

00:35:19.700 apparently all right apparently not just letting the south african government

00:35:24.360 do unspeakable things the fact that he's mentioning he's noticed and he's now mentioning it

00:35:29.100 that's beyond the pale well we were talking about this in the office earlier on which is that there's

00:35:33.600 a hierarchy of evil uh that we have been taught in the modern liberal order which starts off with

00:35:39.780 at the top the very very top obviously is the nazis and hitler but just only slightly below that is

00:35:45.460 rhodesia in south africa south africa for africa for having the apartheid uh which obviously was not a

00:35:52.660 good thing and had very very many problems which led directly to what's going on today

00:35:56.320 but rhodesia basically for just being a functioning country in africa which is you're not allowed that's

00:36:02.440 racist i think that the living standards in um you know pre-desegregation both rhodesia and

00:36:10.020 south africa were higher um in the white minority rule and in rhodesia it was far less explicit as well

00:36:17.780 in that they they just had meritocratic standards which it just so happened that many of the native

00:36:24.600 population and weren't able to meet but but there was still representation within the government

00:36:29.260 yeah and it was going along that way as well yeah but uh the south african government statement

00:36:35.380 the foreign ministry said it's ironic that the executive order makes provision for refugee status

00:36:42.320 in the u.s for a group in south africa that remains amongst the most economically privileged

00:36:47.180 while vulnerable people in the u.s from other parts of the world are being deported

00:36:51.100 and denied asylum despite real hardship so basically let us kill them just let us kill them

00:36:56.700 let us kill them and then take our trash our refuse from the rest of the world and give them all that

00:37:03.040 they want imagine my shock that such a statement would come from the south african government

00:37:08.240 and the president cyril ramaphosa earlier said that his country would not be bullied despite this though

00:37:14.700 the article carries on through gritted teeth to say the african national congress party has been

00:37:19.780 unusually measured in its subsequent responses pretoria said it will send a delegation to

00:37:24.940 washington that's expected to include senior cabinet ministers and business leaders to explain

00:37:29.060 its new law worried that any further actions could rattle investors and tank south africa's economy

00:37:33.580 it's booming economy because they have no leg to stand on here also the anc are in a pretty difficult

00:37:39.760 political situation as well yeah they're no longer the majority party there as far as i'm aware at least

00:37:44.840 they have they have the most seats but they're not a full majority yeah they normally they get above 50

00:37:49.820 of the vote but um as of the most recent election they didn't because uh jacob zuma's mk party helped

00:37:57.420 split that vote as well as just an overall fall in popularity because all of their infrastructure is

00:38:02.680 failing as we saw on my segment yesterday and uh the article again more than three decades after the end

00:38:09.520 apartheid about 70 of south africa's farmland is still owned by white south africans who make up

00:38:16.220 only seven percent of the population their black counterparts are 80 of the population and own just

00:38:21.940 four percent making south africa the world's most unequal nation both in in land use and income

00:38:27.640 distribution distribution so the fact that capita actually they're being understood i know right but

00:38:33.760 the idea that these africa these africaners the burr who own land have owned the land for years

00:38:41.140 set up the land settled the land the fact that they still own it in and of itself no matter what

00:38:47.340 they're doing with it whether they're being productive feeding the country whatever that

00:38:52.560 doesn't matter it's the fact that they own it in the first place i wonder what the uh you know the

00:38:58.200 seven percent of the population what is their percentage contribution to the gdp because uh it's

00:39:04.320 funny that that's omitted isn't it i imagine they're disproportionately economically productive

00:39:09.260 and actually even if they did requisition the land what it would do would be massively damage the south

00:39:15.040 african economy well i did see something that was very entertaining uh very interesting which was the

00:39:19.600 probably the worst case of gdp brain that i've ever seen which was an argument that um well yes they do

00:39:26.840 all the farming and they make all of the food but but the agricultural sector only brings in 2.5 percent

00:39:33.180 of the overall gdp anyway so therefore you basically don't need it you don't want to grow your own food

00:39:40.060 isn't that what happened in zimbabwe and rhodesia that yes the white farmers were displaced from their

00:39:47.380 land one way or another and then the agricultural output fell off a cliff yes people started going hungry

00:39:54.340 because the people who the people who took over weren't uh horticulturalists let's say as soon

00:40:01.500 i think it was 1980 as soon as mugabe took over that year he introduced all of these land requisitions

00:40:07.820 and about 20 years later because it took a while for damage to be done i think a million people had

00:40:14.500 died of famine who could have seen that one coming gay anyone with common sense yeah that may be true

00:40:21.520 but we're talking about zimbabwe that's true uh so they do also point out in this that washington

00:40:26.320 supposedly needs pretoria as an ally because of the fact that they have a lot of platinum and other

00:40:31.940 rare earth mineral materials and metals there and they also want to maintain it as an ally if they want

00:40:38.160 to have any major influence in africa or reverse china's hold on global minerals used in the ai tech

00:40:43.500 race so there is some give and take that's going here either way it's good that donald trump is

00:40:48.520 the one politician i can think of in my lifetime that's actually doing something to stick up for

00:40:53.320 the white minority in south africa who have just been a hated and abused minority ever since the

00:40:59.920 end of apartheid really i'm glad he is because i didn't expect it of him but no i didn't suppose

00:41:04.540 with elon musk being so close to him it's something that is obviously going to be close to him being

00:41:10.160 south african yeah and then there's all the other stuff going on with donald trump's foreign policy at

00:41:14.620 the moment as well where he's trying to use it as a transactional negotiating tool with a lot of

00:41:19.020 foreign countries to try and negotiate better trade deals or better deals for um cultural change and

00:41:25.020 shifts in those countries themselves uh but that's led to very entertaining articles from uh foreign

00:41:31.480 affairs uh this one written by david v joe uh who is a former cia analyst and operations officer

00:41:39.480 i'm sure this is going to be unbiased well that's that's the interesting thing i like looking into

00:41:43.980 foreign affairs every so often because you get people like this you get people like william burns

00:41:47.860 writing articles for it so while they like to veil everything it's a it's an interesting way to see

00:41:52.940 what's going on in the minds of the elite establishment right now what they're talking

00:41:58.200 about and basically this is an entire article special pleading for the rights of the american

00:42:02.980 intelligence agencies to not just be absolutely slashed to the bone saying that well it needs to be

00:42:09.740 experts speaking to other experts industry and intelligence professionals speaking to intelligence

00:42:15.440 professionals otherwise you might end up with a diminished reputation on the global scale you

00:42:21.260 don't want to send in a bunch of people who have no experience in intelligence to cut the whole thing

00:42:27.580 because they have no idea what they're doing basically saying well these people you're sending

00:42:30.540 in aren't already compromised we need we need them pre-compromised so they just do what we want

00:42:36.260 we're the cia god damn it we've got a blank check to do whatever we want across the entire world

00:42:42.040 you can't stop us from doing that and that's basically what he says quite plainly in one of the

00:42:48.240 final paragraphs of this article saying putting the united states first from an intelligence perspectives

00:42:53.560 means harnessing intelligence diplomacy to safeguard american interests and citizens while protecting

00:42:59.660 the liberal world order which has advantaged the united states more than most other countries now i would

00:43:07.500 say that most american citizens themselves would question whether maintaining the liberal world world order in

00:43:15.060 iraq or afghanistan or even today in ukraine has actually benefited them financially culturally even family wise

00:43:25.100 because many of them will have potentially lost family members in iraq and afghanistan so that's very

00:43:30.160 interesting what it's basically saying there is again business as usual that's what we want and there

00:43:36.640 will be liberals and leftists saying destroying the intelligence agencies nobody voted for that

00:43:42.480 that's exactly what many in the maga movement were actively hoping would happen in fact many maga voters

00:43:50.440 said explicitly that it was one of the main things they were looking forward to yeah especially is it

00:43:55.740 that tulsi gabbard is now national director of intelligence that's right yeah yes so that'll be an

00:44:00.860 interesting one to see how she progresses with that she was of course on a domestic terrorist watch list

00:44:06.120 at one point from the intelligence agencies now she's directing them yeah and the other interesting

00:44:10.960 thing that all of these agencies like to do is to try to say that they're non-partisan they're non-political

00:44:17.140 and if you come in and cut it then that's political but what we're doing globally to

00:44:23.120 destabilize governments across the world is non-political according to their own standards

00:44:28.760 there's no such thing sorry it's one of the things i was hoping for uh trump came out ages ago like a year

00:44:34.000 or so ago with a 10-point plan about dismantling or at least damaging the power of the intelligence

00:44:41.720 services in very ways from fires of courts all sorts of things um yeah and it's sort of long

00:44:47.960 overdue if people are making the argument that no one voted for this well no one voted for them to

00:44:52.800 become a type of shadow government in the first place and this goes all the way back to eisenhower

00:44:57.900 there's that famous clip isn't there of eisenhower leaving office right the very end of his tenure as

00:45:02.200 president saying beware of a shadow government um a military industrial complex his words some people

00:45:09.600 like say the very concept for military industrial complex his tinfoil hat conspiracy theory well

00:45:13.780 it wasn't even in the 50s i mean what was the name of the original cia director when he when it was back

00:45:20.160 in the oss as well during the second world war the main one is alan dallas but there were a few but

00:45:24.220 there were a few before him like army generals but he's sort of the famous well the most famous one

00:45:30.300 but there were actually a couple before him but you're probably talking about alan dallas yeah

00:45:33.180 i'm just saying like you don't want some random unaccountable person like that who's actually in

00:45:39.640 charge of the government and actually in charge of what happens on the international stage in a

00:45:43.840 supposed democracy when the whole point of the liberal world order is for the sake of global

00:45:48.140 democracy which is the rule of unaccounted oligarchs as far as i can tell uh these days uh but here's

00:45:54.060 another insightful paragraph to see either how they want to present themselves and how barefaced the

00:46:01.800 lying is or how delusional these people are if it's the other way and they actually believe

00:46:06.900 their own rubbish that they spout intelligence work negotiate necessitates good judgment and

00:46:12.180 measured temperament and the integrity to go where the weight of the evidence leads that means

00:46:17.060 occasionally bringing unwelcome news to powerful political figures i mean i can agree with all of

00:46:21.580 that so far but here's his suggestions to that aim trump should install experienced professionals in key

00:46:26.840 national security and intelligence positions the administration should not probe candidates for their views

00:46:31.680 on the january 6th attack on the u.s capital or otherwise subject them to ideological litmus tests

00:46:37.020 why not why not because it's bad it's bad for them all right it's bad for them surround yourself with

00:46:42.860 enemies mr trump please just surround yourself with incredibly powerful enemies as you're noticing to

00:46:49.700 a minimum yeah and on the subject of things that uh trump is starting to do that he promised that he would

00:46:55.500 do that people think he didn't wasn't voted in for which he explicitly was voted in for

00:46:59.980 and upsets the intelligence establishment is that he's on the on the road to making peace talks with

00:47:06.280 vladimir putin now this hasn't just upset the american intelligence establishment it's also upset the

00:47:11.400 european establishment as well which i will cover in a moment but this all comes from the fact that he

00:47:17.740 spoke on february 12th on the phone to vladimir putin without coordinating the details beforehand

00:47:24.340 with ukraine and announced that negotiations to end the war would start immediately and he's also

00:47:30.540 thinking he might meet with putin in person in saudi arabia as well i mean if they can get peace talks

00:47:37.640 on the ground off the ground and if they can actually establish some kind of peace i see this is

00:47:41.840 only a good thing we've wasted enough resources trying to claw back territory for the sake of ukraine

00:47:47.800 ukraine's lost enough sons and daughters in the conflict and frankly so has russia as well this

00:47:54.500 conflict has been an unmitigated disaster if i've heard recently someone said someone reputable i can't

00:48:00.480 remember who it was but saying maybe as many as a million casualties in that theater of war yeah

00:48:05.740 i've heard that so a generation a generation

00:48:09.500 and it has displaced it has displaced people and uh also one of the uh conditions that might be

00:48:17.440 for ukraine as well is i believe that ukraine has access to rare minerals and things as well

00:48:23.480 they've got some of the you know the richest farmland as well you know it's called the bread

00:48:27.780 basket of europe at one point yeah so for the sake of maybe negotiating a peace deal where they're able

00:48:32.800 to save face they can try to make up for some of the shortfalls that they could encounter with south

00:48:37.200 africa i don't know what kind of rare materials that they have in ukraine but there could be some

00:48:42.340 kind of wiggle room to try and negotiate that uh now despite this again if we want to take a look

00:48:48.240 at what's going on with the conflict on the ground to see what an unmitigated disaster this has been for

00:48:54.800 ukraine because people like to point out well ukraine's lost a lot less people uh overall than

00:49:00.200 russia has russia's lost more troops but we found out in world war ii and any ground war with russia

00:49:05.780 really that russia's scariest factor is their ability to just send wave after wave after wave

00:49:13.560 of people they're they're basically like it's an unstoppable horde that will constantly be

00:49:21.540 going to you like advancing on you that's what the germans found out they could take out as many

00:49:27.980 people as they wanted capture as many people capture as much war material as they wanted there

00:49:32.580 would always be more on the way it's a very big nation yeah yeah big big shock right so here's a

00:49:37.900 map of what's been going on and the territory in red here we can see this is the territory that's been

00:49:44.180 taken by the russians and under russian military control these little squiggles bits here are under

00:49:49.320 limited russian military control they've been trying to push towards khaki for ages but they've not been

00:49:54.160 able to make a proper advance on it obviously they never really got to ukraine uh in in terms of

00:49:59.140 what ukraine's been able to take in retaliation is this that little bit in what in the kursk region

00:50:09.060 of russia that's about it what the hell did you just do to me there we go i think it just refreshed

00:50:14.200 yeah it did just refresh either way this is a bit more of a zoomed in thing but as you can see

00:50:18.160 russian territorial gains a lot better ukraine has not gained anything from this and the idea that

00:50:26.380 zielinski's like well what we can do is we can do a land swap okay you've got this much land they've

00:50:31.440 got this much land do you have a leg to stand on no no you don't the past few months have been trying

00:50:38.420 to capture as much territory as possible to get the best position to negotiate i think that's what's

00:50:43.660 been going on no i agree that that's what they've been trying to do there's just they've just not

00:50:47.780 really got anything to be able to negotiate at the table with other than just being able to say

00:50:52.140 let's make peace especially now that they've got donald trump in the corner saying he wants to

00:50:57.780 negotiate peace again i think this is a good thing remarkably few battlefield successes from the

00:51:03.500 ukrainian side considering they've been given what hundreds of billions of dollars both in money and

00:51:08.980 just materiel and the amount of men they've lost what it's got to show for it on the battlefield

00:51:16.440 i mean the main very little the main success that i can tell is that a number of times they have

00:51:20.640 been able to push back russian forces but the successes have been in almost entirely defensive

00:51:25.680 i think that i mean they've succeeded in not having their entire country taken over by the

00:51:31.680 russians that's yeah i suppose they've succeeded in pushing the russians to the point where they

00:51:36.520 want to negotiate again by the fact that russia's bogged down a lot more than they were expecting to

00:51:42.180 i think they were expecting to steamroll this because what was this supposed to be a two-week special

00:51:46.180 military operation at first or police operation as they were calling it so it's been terrible for

00:51:51.240 both sides which is why it should stop and it certainly should stop before it's escalated to

00:51:57.920 the point where european troops and nato troops are on the ground as well because that would

00:52:02.620 that would proceed into a hot war with russia which nobody wants there's been a number of threats

00:52:08.700 over that over the past three years and it's never happened i don't think it is going to happen

00:52:12.920 but still if there's a one percent chance that it happens if the conflict extends on as long as

00:52:18.740 possible you don't want that it probably should have stopped when was it like a couple of years

00:52:24.420 ago when boris personally went out there and said no don't strike a deal with zelinski that would

00:52:29.480 support you to the bitter end yeah for as long as it takes or until there are different bureaucrats

00:52:35.060 in the state department and pentagon at least but no as long as it takes yeah um until there's a new

00:52:39.860 president but boris johnson saw his churchill moment he saw his churchill moment but then he got

00:52:44.980 ousted then he got ousted for having parties do you remember when zelinski visited congress and they

00:52:50.280 were lording him people like uh schumer and pelosi calling him the churchill of our age and stuff

00:52:56.540 it's just nonsense it was all nonsense it's not great but um as you can imagine europe as i

00:53:05.960 mentioned feeling a little bit left out feeling like they're sat in the cook chair on this they

00:53:10.600 uh signed the uh they all signed this agreement uh the weimar plus statement why investing choice

00:53:16.320 weimar plus all right okay interesting saying we're ready to enhance our support for ukraine

00:53:21.480 so we just keep pushing it even further we commit to its independent sovereignty and territorial

00:53:26.880 integrity in the face of russia's war of aggression we share the goal to keep supporting ukraine until a

00:53:31.700 just comprehensive and lasting peace is reached this is basically just them saying publicly please

00:53:37.220 get us to the table as well we don't want to be shown to be as pathetic and ineffective as we have

00:53:43.000 been please get us to the table so we can try and save face with this as well we're looking forward

00:53:48.240 to discussing the way ahead together with our american allies but one of the most ridiculous things

00:53:53.700 and yet at the same time most predictable things that i've seen regarding this is what happens when

00:53:59.540 peace happen when the peace talks have been concluded if they go forwards there's going to be a

00:54:03.880 discussion on the territory that's kept by the russians which territory is given back to the

00:54:08.240 ukrainians etc there's going to need to be a transition period in that time who's going to

00:54:13.580 administer the transition period because hegseth himself has said that american troops will not be

00:54:17.900 on the ground in ukraine in this scenario ukrainians have been pretty keen for british troops and because

00:54:23.880 we've been a key supporter of them and they they see us as uh you know a reliable ally so it might

00:54:30.400 well be that it may be us the french and the germans sending troops maybe some of their their neighbors

00:54:36.800 as well and it might be a joint european effort i don't know how it's going to go to be honest

00:54:41.220 you could see that potentially but again eu member states nato members as well there's the worry that if

00:54:48.040 there if any conflict breaks out between them and any russian troops due to any complications or

00:54:52.160 something there is some worries there so foreign policy again have a genius solution the global south

00:54:59.940 the global south not europe should play peacekeeper in ukraine send the rwandans in

00:55:08.340 well they're a bit busy send the congolese they're a bit busy as well exactly it'd be a perfect diversion

00:55:14.820 if we're supporting the rwandans right uh but but really what this seems to be is just a um

00:55:20.040 again special pleading let the diversity into ukraine please let the diversity into ukraine

00:55:26.000 it's one of the most uh homogenous nations in europe still just like the rest of eastern europe

00:55:31.220 please diversify it which always seems to be the ultimate goal of a lot of foreign policy

00:55:36.960 uh under the liberal world order is to make sure that homogenous european nations

00:55:41.020 get their nice injection of diversity so uh hopefully this doesn't come to pass but they're suggesting here

00:55:47.080 that um african asian latin american nations should uh should provide troops rather than the

00:55:55.460 eu themselves and a wide number of peace peace initiatives and proposals coming from countries

00:56:00.620 such as indonesia mexico and the african delegation that visited kiev and moscow suggest there's a real

00:56:06.620 willingness by these non-aligned states to play a significant role i can see the justification for it

00:56:11.660 because they're they have less skin in the game don't they yeah that's true but i can't help but

00:56:16.180 see that this would be in a similar way to how france treated the rhineland following the interwar

00:56:21.340 period after the first world war an excuse to get diversity into a um into a european nation so i

00:56:28.140 that's always the first concern at the top of my mind these days when it comes to these kinds of

00:56:32.960 conflicts but either way i hope that donald trump's foreign policy can actually manage to achieve peace

00:56:40.080 in ukraine and in russia because uh generally speaking this is a very very uh daring brave

00:56:47.460 statement i think masses of people dying in war is a bad thing i agree absolutely there's been enough

00:56:53.720 blood spilt especially for a lost cause it's just crazy though that that's the first i've heard of

00:56:58.220 that that make the global south the peacekeepers in ukraine it's like let's have a demilitarized

00:57:03.140 zone on the mexican border and have it staffed by lithuanians yeah why not or something

00:57:09.920 send the estonians in yeah the finnish peace corps is going to sort out mexico yeah there's problems in

00:57:16.940 guatemala sending a special hungarian crack squad of commandos tell you what would be funny why not

00:57:22.860 sending albanians onto the u.s border known people smugglers no don't actually they just

00:57:29.360 they just roll straight into the cartel wouldn't they a great way to get rid of the cartel is just

00:57:35.320 report a different albany their people smuggling operations will become more efficient if you put

00:57:40.680 albanians that's true yeah the mexicans are even worse now how did this happen we've got a bunch of

00:57:46.760 uh chats here oh yes we do uh five dollars from amandine 512 says you gentlemen look very dapper

00:57:54.320 especially beau late lotus eaters is in my top four favorite podcasts the fact that you had to extend

00:58:01.280 it to four means that i think we're fourth yeah thank you but thank you anyway and thank you for

00:58:07.000 the compliment uh the engaged few says you know it's bad when us aid spending is so outrageous that

00:58:12.300 it pisses off people from britain because you were funding rory stewart well i i'm annoyed on your

00:58:19.120 behalf i hate taxes so you know i'm annoyed on your behalf anyway it'd be like if we found out that uh

00:58:25.780 i i don't know if you found out that we'd expressly tried to insert james corden into your culture as

00:58:32.320 some act of like political subterfuge and warfare don't tell them about that harry you'd be annoyed too

00:58:38.540 i've got some bad news people rory stewart

00:58:41.760 yeah yeah it's like americans finding out that the treasury his majesty's treasury

00:58:48.800 is paying and forcing piers morgan on the united states americans would be rightly annoyed at that

00:58:56.120 wouldn't they i think they would be they would be in xco how is rory stewart even married

00:59:01.440 some women have low bars that's true uh hedgehog dilemma unfortunately i think we need those

00:59:08.840 billboards in rotherham rochdale telford etc yeah uh they wouldn't make a difference sadly the engaged

00:59:15.900 few the famous saying is follow the money but a better one is follow the power oftentimes they're

00:59:20.800 the exact same anonymous yeah and the engaged few even with half the pre-usssr collapse putin can still

00:59:26.920 win with the time-honored practice of drowning his enemies in the blood of russian conscripts

00:59:31.840 yeah blimey cheery podcast the ukrainians have a preset kill limit so putin will send wave after wave of

00:59:40.100 his own man speaking of cheery things let's find out how we're all gonna die okay so or probably not

00:59:47.580 as the case may be i thought we'll talk about it's been in the headlines a bit but the story isn't

00:59:51.080 entirely new we have known since last year that there may be an asteroid uh coming to hit earth

00:59:56.740 in 3032 uh specifically december the 22nd 3032 how do we know this because of newton's physics

01:00:06.240 can they find out a bit earlier so i know 20 to do oh to do my christmas shopping because that's that's

01:00:12.740 right in the sort of area where i'm like do i do my christmas shopping don't i it could be that it's

01:00:18.360 all in vain it's extremely it's extremely unlikely to hit the earth at all but if it does almost

01:00:22.980 certainly won't be anywhere near us oh great in which case never mind have the scientists adjusted

01:00:28.220 the doomsday clock i know they like to do that when we're when we're this close to doom and disaster

01:00:34.340 we're now 14 seconds closer to midnight so this thing they've called uh 2024 wire r4 that's its name

01:00:43.800 um and so a few numbers and any fedora tippers out there do forgive me if i get some of these ever

01:00:49.560 so slightly wrong thing is the actual reality is we still don't know all the details about this

01:00:54.560 thing but i'll go into that in a moment so um it's somewhere between 40 and 90 meters across

01:01:01.580 this asteroid that's quite big so i mean in the scheme of things it's not too big um if it did hit

01:01:10.620 us i mean it's traveling somewhere in the region of 13 to 17 kilometers per second

01:01:14.820 which is obviously very fast insanely fast so we don't know really exactly what it's made of we

01:01:22.140 think that it's not just a pile of rubble it's like a single big rocky object it's not it's not a

01:01:28.940 comet so it's not icy i think it probably hasn't got a metal core so it's just a big lump of rock

01:01:34.000 traveling about 13 kilometers a second and between 40 and 90 meters so to give it some perspective the

01:01:40.380 thing that wiped out the dinosaurs 65 odd million years ago was in the region of 10 to 15 kilometers

01:01:46.900 across so if this thing hit the earth it would be well still they don't know exactly be somewhere

01:01:53.280 between 1 and 40 megaton the equivalent of between a 1 and 40 megaton blast so that's enough to

01:02:00.360 completely annihilate a city but it's not a mass extinction event it's not it's not going to

01:02:06.460 like create some sort of never-ending winter or anything like that put things into perspective

01:02:12.720 um 40 meters is the width of free london buses to the americans i know that's not the most useful

01:02:19.480 metric for you but you know it's a sense of scale i love putting things in terms of how big it is

01:02:25.560 compared to football pitches i know they mean by that american football pitches which are always 100

01:02:29.960 yards if we really want to transfer translate to americans how many burgers is it depends how

01:02:37.580 the burger is i mean across in size of volume or mass oh so okay actually there's some of the last

01:02:44.360 links i put up about barringer crater can we just click go straight to those please samson they're

01:02:50.040 towards the end the barringer crater so there's this thing in northern arizona there there you go

01:02:54.380 sometimes called meteor crater or barringer crater and that was about the size of this thing

01:02:59.980 this was this was the original thing that hit there um was between 30 and 50 meters across so

01:03:07.060 roughly roughly in the same ballpark as this this 2024 yr4 and barringer crater i'd love to go there

01:03:14.880 i'd love to visit it's in northern arizona um near not million miles from flagstaff and i'd love to go

01:03:21.500 there i'd really really love to visit that um i'm more fascinated by a meteor crater than by

01:03:28.360 the grand canyon and i'm fascinated by the grand canyon i'd love to go to the grand canyon but this

01:03:32.460 even more um so anyway it gives you some sort of there were some people in the other pictures to give

01:03:37.540 it a bit of scale so anyway if that and there that thing didn't even hit the earth they don't think

01:03:43.700 they think it uh blew up just sort of very very close to the surface because back early in the

01:03:49.720 20th century they did loads of excavations to try and find they thought there'd be massive iron

01:03:54.680 deposits there and they just weren't um same with the tunguska event people probably one of the most

01:04:01.300 famous ones people know about that i've got an image or two if you can find those samson the russian

01:04:05.060 one isn't it yeah so back in the very early 20th century over siberia there was a cloud burst

01:04:11.160 cloud burst there was a an air burst of a large um meteor or asteroid meteor um that came in and

01:04:20.840 almost certainly sort of blew up very close to the surface but didn't actually probably hit there's no

01:04:27.780 there's no crater at the tunguska event for example so lots of famous pictures similar to that one of all

01:04:34.900 the trees flattened aren't there yeah that was these images were taken years quite a few years

01:04:39.580 later before russians went there with with uh it's very early was it like 1912 or something like that

01:04:44.800 anyway so the earth gets hit by stuff all the time right if you ever if you live in an area where

01:04:52.460 there's not much light or air pollution and you look up on a clear night uh it doesn't take long

01:04:57.960 before you see a shooting star when i've been camping on dartmoor i've seen seen several in my lifetime

01:05:03.720 i've seen nearly 100 or so i think and um even in january i showed a video on the podcast

01:05:09.760 um of a canadian household having a meteor land on their front doorstep it was only a very small one

01:05:16.440 there's lots of fizzing and and like smoke but they're what you know that their doormat was still

01:05:22.200 intact incredible isn't it yeah if it's a nice clear night you look up you just spend

01:05:26.460 five ten fifteen minutes just staring at the sky you'll see a shooting star probably

01:05:31.140 um so in other words small amounts of material bombarding the earth all the time all the time

01:05:36.960 but we protect like our atmosphere is like a protection because if you're traveling at kilometers

01:05:43.040 per second and you hit something as dense as air on the earth it will vaporize you so that's why even

01:05:51.580 quite big asteroids when they actually come into the atmosphere will almost almost always burn up

01:05:57.920 unless they're big enough uh in fact there was an event about 10 11 years ago um i think i've got

01:06:03.920 a video of that as well samson of um something hitting a russian city flying across the sky

01:06:08.600 it's one of the youtube clips uh yeah right near the bottom russian meteor about 10 years ago

01:06:14.860 there it is yeah play this watch this we don't need the audio um so there's this video so there was a

01:06:20.300 piece of a piece of rock traveling through our solar system for millions perhaps billions of years and

01:06:26.640 then suddenly one day uh at kilometers per second just comes it hits the earth

01:06:34.920 and this just like the the meteor crater and um well actually not in the case of meteor crater but in

01:06:41.960 the case of the tunguska event um it got very close to the ground before break breaking up and burning

01:06:48.200 up um and it did it there's apparently there's a massive bang like massive bang it blew out loads

01:06:54.500 of windows a few people got injured i don't think anyone died but quite a few people got injured

01:06:59.360 where they're sort of looking out their window and then the next second their window's blown in and

01:07:03.300 they get all shards in their face and stuff so lots of people were hurt i don't think anyone was

01:07:08.400 i don't think anyone was killed anyway um the point is and this was like about as i say about 10 or 11

01:07:14.880 years ago uh it just goes to show uh that we're not immune from things coming in and hitting us i

01:07:23.860 mean over the age of the earth we've had many mass extinction events people know of the the one the

01:07:29.600 dinosaur one 65 odd million years ago but there's been many there were before that it was all giant

01:07:36.760 insects wasn't it before that again it was giant mushrooms according to the archaeology all sorts of

01:07:43.320 mega flora yeah so the big one the one i'm most fascinated by actually was the permian or the

01:07:49.980 permian triassic mass extinction event which happened long before the dinosaurs even we're talking what

01:07:55.700 like is it 400 million years ago in that region um sometimes it's called the great dying because with

01:08:01.840 the dinosaur one what was it something like 40 or 50 percent of all creatures and plants were

01:08:06.980 went extinct because of that but the permian one was even more it was like 80 or 90 percent of all things

01:08:12.360 um so we've had at least half a dozen mass extinction events not that this 2024 yr4 is

01:08:20.100 anything on of that magnitude but the point is is that we can get hit by or are hit by things all the

01:08:27.300 time so okay all right with with all that being said a little bit of background context what is this

01:08:31.980 thing so um there's a video of the other video link i've got there um

01:08:37.880 yeah well it's from from scott manley now everyone knows i like my history

01:08:44.180 but i also like my science and space stuff don't i i mean um i really like anton petrov

01:08:52.260 he says uh he got a great channel and tom oh yeah yeah he says hello wonderful people all the time

01:08:58.600 this really nice guy dr becky i like the astrum channel alex mccolgan uh john michael godier

01:09:04.340 there's a number of channels that i watch all the time i'm not watching politics and history things

01:09:09.000 i'm watching space and science things uh but but i also really like this guy scott manley and all

01:09:13.900 these people i've just mentioned they're real experts in the field they're not just fans of science

01:09:18.640 they're sort of actual professors and things so anyway could we watch as i said could you play it

01:09:23.720 from one minute about one minute 18 in because he just about a minute worth of him talking gives us

01:09:28.900 yeah roughly there um so it was a from our point of view it was sort of coming out of the sun and

01:09:36.200 flying past the earth into deep space headed out towards mars and the initial observations put it on

01:09:42.040 an orbit which goes into a perigee of about 0.855 au and goes all the way out to about 0.422 or sorry

01:09:50.880 4.22 au with an inclination of maybe three to four degrees and it just happens that it passes very close

01:09:58.380 to the earth's orbit importantly when it was first discovered the orbital period was about 4.04 years

01:10:05.660 and since then that orbital period has got a lot closer to being four years which means it comes

01:10:11.940 back exactly to where the earth is four years from now so yeah observations of this continued and as

01:10:19.680 we get more observations the orbit gets better and better and that means the uncertainty gets

01:10:26.640 smaller and smaller and eventually the big the point is it flies by us every four years or so

01:10:34.160 and we know that the next time in 2028 it won't hit us it'll come close but it certainly won't hit us

01:10:39.800 then at first they thought it might have hit us then but it's not going to but in the next time

01:10:43.700 round in 2032 there's a possibility and it's still quite a small possibility they thought the reason

01:10:50.220 why it's in the news cycle is that they thought it's like a one percent possibility and more recent

01:10:54.760 because they just keep taking more and more measurements it looks like it might be as much as two

01:10:58.440 percent or a bit over two percent likelihood now that is a bit worrying isn't it but it's still

01:11:03.260 quite unlikely to hit us really and um what scott manley there was saying is that at some probably

01:11:10.460 at some point in the next four years or so we'll get a clear enough idea of exactly if it will or won't

01:11:17.200 hit us i suspect it won't um if i had to put 100 pound on whether it would or it wouldn't i mean it's

01:11:23.200 it wouldn't but 98 percent odds are being right right yeah yeah i'll take that and even if it does

01:11:28.260 hit us um they already know because of newton's clockwork universe we already know where it's

01:11:33.740 likely to hit on the earth if it does and i've got uh if you put those tweets up samson um next one

01:11:41.660 that's nasa just saying it might hit so there that's where it's likely to hit us if it if it if it does

01:11:48.160 at all um so there's places like bogota um all sorts of central africa and sano in yemen maybe

01:11:57.080 parts of india it could it could hit go to the next tweet actually i think they mention

01:12:01.180 yeah so there's that corridor lagos mumbai i mean if it hit in downtown mumbai that would be bad

01:12:06.580 and it was 40 megatons yeah i don't know if it's 25 000 tons or a million tons not sure whether it's 40

01:12:12.400 or 90 meters across but say it's the bigger end of that say it is a million tons and it is traveling

01:12:18.360 17 kilometers per second and it hits square on mumbai that's going to be pretty bad isn't it

01:12:24.860 or it could just hit somewhere in the atlantic ocean yeah so that would be the best case scenario if

01:12:29.560 if it does hit the earth it goes in the ocean if it hits the earth and no one gets hurt because even

01:12:35.540 if it hit the ocean it wouldn't cause um some sort of devastating tsunami pardon me so if it is going

01:12:42.900 to hit the earth i would actually like it to hit somewhere where no one gets hurt in the middle of

01:12:46.460 the sahara or or something or the ocean i'd like to see i want to see the footage you just want to see

01:12:51.140 an awesome crater yeah yeah give me a decent crater with zero casualties i'm on board for that

01:12:56.520 i want that but yeah of course if it did if it was hit a city that would obviously be terrible but

01:13:03.020 um i still don't think it will honestly it's unlikely to hit the earth um it's good i think

01:13:09.680 it's cool that we're living in an age where we've got any sort of warning it is reassuring isn't it

01:13:15.320 that we can know well in advance because it it seems quite unlikely that something's just going to

01:13:21.380 you know shoot across from outside of our solar system and just directly target earth is it that

01:13:27.120 doesn't seem to be the case normally it's something that's rotating and so observable

01:13:31.520 there's a few different things so we've swept out our orbit around the sun pretty good now

01:13:37.880 around it a few billion times right so so that there's that but then there's the asteroid belt

01:13:42.840 the main one between mars and jupiter and then there's the alt cloud way out beyond neptune and

01:13:48.640 we could get any number of those could whatever reason um come in towards the inner solar system

01:13:55.500 and become a threat to us but then there are also objects that are in sort of um interstellar

01:14:01.340 space and as we go around the milky way sort of come through our our orbit around the galaxy

01:14:08.180 like there's that there was a mua mua object so sometimes quite often in fact we're not aware of

01:14:13.940 a big object until it's too late until it's sort of been and gone even sometimes it's a bit worrying

01:14:20.840 sometimes nasa i've gone from being hopeful to worried to hopeful to being worried again and again

01:14:26.480 throughout this slingshotting you on this one it's funny it's both nasa will say things like we've

01:14:30.540 got this particular project going on and we've mapped every large object that's likely to hit the earth

01:14:35.160 and we're all good except for that thing oh my goodness this thing now we've just found or then

01:14:40.220 there'll be another article and they'll say oh uh an asteroid which was pretty bad maybe not a mass

01:14:44.780 extinction event level one but still pretty big decent uh it passed within a few million kilometers of

01:14:50.560 earth in other words very close and we didn't spot it until it was already past us um so sort of i

01:14:57.020 think anyway at least we're living in the age where some sort of um some sort of warning is available

01:15:02.620 um so we'll see as we get closer and closer to to 32 december 2032 we'll know um but so there are

01:15:11.620 some things people might say well can't we do something about it if we did realize in a few years

01:15:16.120 time that it is sort of there's a 99 possibility it's going to hit the earth what can be done

01:15:21.080 well um there's a number of things that can be done a lot of people think oh we'll just shoot it

01:15:27.520 with nukes but it's not really that that's really quite a difficult thing or it's not technically

01:15:32.940 the right thing to do or whatever but what you can do well there's this thing that the dart mission

01:15:38.540 nasa's got this thing called the dart mission and it's sort of testing all this stuff out

01:15:42.520 so there's actually a clip a youtube short from the dart yeah so this is there's there's these two

01:15:48.780 asteroids out there one big one and and it's got its own its own little moonlit another small asteroid

01:15:54.140 circling a bigger asteroid and nasa flew their the actual spacecraft into it in a head-on collision

01:16:03.460 and to make measurements to see what it did and the thing they flew into it was about the mass of a

01:16:11.480 fridge it's a bit bigger than a fridge because i think this mass is about the size of a fridge

01:16:14.800 and it flew into the this asteroid at about six kilometers a second and they measured everything

01:16:20.560 and if you have a head-on collision with it it's basically you're slowing it down is what you

01:16:25.340 the idea of pushing an asteroid left or laterally left or right to push out of the way that's not

01:16:30.040 really a thing you it's better to either accelerate it or decelerate it so that it so that the geometry

01:16:37.200 so that its orbit misses what you want it to miss so in other words anyway this dart mission

01:16:41.960 they basically shot an asteroid with a spacecraft and measured it and it worked much better than

01:16:47.980 they thought they thought it would change this asteroid's uh trajectory by a few seconds effectively

01:16:54.780 by a few seconds or a minute or two and it changed it by like a quite much much more than they thought

01:17:00.520 it would and it's the same there you go this is real footage it's all the uh all the people that

01:17:06.740 don't think space is real out there laughing at us how can we think that space is real uh but yeah so

01:17:12.860 there was a small asteroid circling the bigger one and it flew straight into it it's directed by

01:17:17.360 stanley kubrick i mean it looks like the intro to a razor head to me and i wasn't saying that in the

01:17:24.460 moon landing sense i was just saying it seemed like a film technique that he would use zooming in like

01:17:29.100 that so there's this idea that we could possibly there's the possibility that we could fly certain

01:17:34.740 things into head-on collisions with 2024 yr4 effectively slow it down a bit you don't need

01:17:42.540 to slow these things down by a tiny fraction for it to miss entirely also imagine that if you're

01:17:47.840 slowing down the speed at which it's approaching it spends more time in the atmosphere and it's more

01:17:53.520 likely to burn up as well even if it is directly hitting yeah maybe maybe it's um it's just to

01:17:59.920 make sure because the window it would have to hit to actually collide with earth is tiny it's really

01:18:07.540 tiny so you'd only have to change its speed or trajectory effectively a tiny amount to make sure

01:18:13.500 but it wouldn't be obliterated so the next four years it four years after that it may come close to

01:18:20.040 and then the next four years after that it might come close to so anyway it seems like we'll be

01:18:23.740 living with this 2024 yr4 for the foreseeable future unless the space agencies space agencies of the

01:18:32.620 world come up with some sort of plan to deal with the threat permanently which i've not heard anything

01:18:37.100 about yet um so anyway it's been in a new cycle a bit about this thing that might hit us in 2032 and

01:18:44.900 um i wouldn't worry about it to be perfectly honest because even if it does we don't live

01:18:51.980 in sanar or bogota or mumbai so but if you do be worried if you do keep your eye on the news

01:18:59.320 because in eight years time you might want to go visit your relatives in the country on that day

01:19:05.320 on december the 22nd um but we'll see we'll know we will know uh within a few years

01:19:11.860 the probability of it hitting earth will either go up like to it's quite likely or just

01:19:16.740 fall off a cliff and it's it's a zero percent chance so we'll see i'm fascinated by all this

01:19:21.600 sort of stuff um the few channels i mentioned earlier if anyone else is go go check them out

01:19:26.780 and from petrov dr becky those sort of astrum astrum's a great channel okay that's it

01:19:31.980 okay let's go to the video comments you've probably heard about the two nurses from sydney who threatened

01:19:39.460 an israeli man claiming they've killed many israelis at their hospital in bankstown

01:19:42.860 while this might shock some people especially those not from sydney many locals aren't really

01:19:48.220 surprised bankstown has a reputation as a no-go zone there have been incidents there and it's

01:19:52.840 largely run by islamist groups who aren't too fond of aussies women have faced harassment and attacks

01:19:57.440 and to make things worse several people from that area joined isis back in the mid to late 2010s

01:20:03.020 i live pretty close to bankstown and i definitely steer clear of it it's just not safe

01:20:09.460 why are they in australia in the first place that's always the question

01:20:13.020 they come there and they've just caused the same problems they cause wherever they go

01:20:17.600 i hadn't heard of any of that that's all entirely new to me yeah

01:20:20.680 um but it doesn't doesn't seem to add up though because

01:20:23.680 isn't islam the religion of peace though i thought

01:20:26.940 no oh oh no inbred savages religion of pieces

01:20:31.780 yeah sorry i'll bear that in mind for when i eventually visit australia which i will do

01:20:38.840 one day one day let's have a look at this heresy shall we this week we have the tallest tree in the

01:20:45.520 world named hyperion a coast redwood which stands 115 meters tall hyperion isn't on a trail and you'll

01:20:53.460 be fined five thousand dollars if you approach it since people damage the soil instead of sharing the

01:21:00.160 tallest tree with humanity and making a trail that protects the tree they choose to not help the tree

01:21:06.600 and deny anyone seeing it spiteful mutants here's its exact location

01:21:12.780 that's an awesome name for a massive tree hyperion that's great also i liked that the statue of liberty

01:21:21.020 was gay french statue yeah correctly labeled it wouldn't have been as gay if they hadn't put on

01:21:26.760 the really gay poem on the side of it that made it giga gay um not heard of that kind before

01:21:33.600 luna stratton revealed she'd written a book under the nom de plume of laura anderson

01:21:39.600 in her final chapter she monologues with the reader about why she wrote it and the style it is in

01:21:44.260 the book is an intriguing collection of short stories following a common plot involving one character in

01:21:49.260 several locations and times an inventor has created a drug that can alter a person's genome to express hair

01:21:54.960 and skin colors of choice hailed as having solved racism he deals with some unexpected effects

01:21:59.920 the idea should be pursued in more detail as despite being an interesting read the book doesn't really

01:22:04.800 explore the concept sounds interesting thanks alex there are there are lots of inventive ideas that

01:22:11.980 don't get explored properly in literature though so always need somebody to pick those up uh we

01:22:17.040 should probably go through the yeah that's true um there's some for you bo um would you like me to

01:22:21.860 read them or are you okay um connor smug mug says bo you forgot one thing nothing ever happens repeat

01:22:27.420 after me nothing ever happens nothing if it does nothing ever happens if it does it'll hit india

01:22:34.080 and that will be according to connor smug mug be a good thing um a cruel bow um i don't live that

01:22:41.960 far from that crater it is indeed um worth visiting worth visiting and a lot of other stuff in that area

01:22:48.300 so there you go and uh vinnie d95 says bo should have a chat with randall carlson oh i'd love i've

01:22:55.840 in my notes i've got randall carlson i didn't get to mention him but yeah i would love to have a long

01:23:01.100 form conversation with randall carlson randall we know you're watching this is a direct appeal if you

01:23:06.500 ever see this please get in contact i have reached out to him once i think and he blanked me but

01:23:11.860 uh he's probably in high demand um i would love to chat to randall carlson love it and a hedgehog

01:23:17.380 dilemma says the asteroid will hit mumbai and the hindu nationalists will somehow find a way to

01:23:21.760 hold the british responsible you see when when it was burning in the sky it was red like your

01:23:27.520 soldier's uniform therefore it was british backed right comments yes andrew narog says honestly even

01:23:34.840 with the trillions of dollars of minerals i say we should just let africa sort africa out

01:23:38.380 i'm not saying we should meddle um attempting to meddle in third world affairs only works if we

01:23:43.380 return to full imperialism i do hope people realize i was just looking at what was happening i'm not

01:23:49.060 suggesting we intervene sophie live says let's just import all of these people to our countries and

01:23:54.120 let the magic soil turn them civilized in a second problem solved nothing more to see here

01:23:59.340 that's how it works that soil is so prolific and um ewan baker says trump voice they're looting the leaves

01:24:07.860 they're looting the carpets the people that live there i can't do a trump impression i've got the

01:24:13.100 wrong kind of voice for it i'm afraid um the unbreakable litany says if the congo are struggling

01:24:19.040 so much maybe we can ask belgium to lend them a hand dear dear very dark joke there um

01:24:26.580 josep yenikosium um says i remember rwanda mandating a quota for women in government specifically

01:24:33.760 to avoid more violence i guess that didn't quite work out in the end uh no um i mean it's violence

01:24:40.160 over the border so that's true it's different violence and then finally baron von warhawk i'm

01:24:44.620 sure we are getting nothing but lawyers doctors artists and engineers from the rape capital of

01:24:49.580 the world i'm sure their wives and daughters of england will be fine yeah i can hear that sarcasm

01:24:55.040 yeah supreme duck says if i was any other country i would stop trying to change or do stuff in those

01:25:02.680 countries let them do their things they will figure it out eventually we are wasting resources

01:25:07.640 um on cultures which clearly need some time to figure things out maybe a few thousand years again

01:25:13.940 i think i think uh obviously international diplomacy is something that's always going to be around it's

01:25:19.140 always going to be necessary especially now that we're in the age of mass communication

01:25:22.320 where people can just get on the phone or speak to each other over the computer i think the problem

01:25:27.000 is trying to do this kind of like namby pamby halfway house oh we'll support them abstractly

01:25:33.480 from afar we'll send money and let the government figure it out but we'll probably also have our

01:25:38.120 own agents working to corrupt things behind the scenes at the same time if you're going to go into

01:25:44.040 a place like africa and try and fix the culture like was suggested in that comment a moment ago you're

01:25:50.460 going to have to just colonize it yep that's that's what you've got to do if you want to fix

01:25:57.020 eswatina or whatever it's swatini yeah eswatini uh then yeah you're going to have to colonize it

01:26:02.780 and forcibly stop them from raping each other if you want to fix the congo you're going to need to

01:26:07.800 colonize it and forcibly stop them from raping and murdering each other that's how it works yeah good

01:26:15.080 luck with all that yeah uh but just throwing money at the problem expecting the locals to deal

01:26:20.560 with it themselves no no they're just going to keep raping each other maximum toast they need to

01:26:26.480 be receiving support from northrop grumman not usa i'm not familiar with that weapons manufacturer

01:26:33.640 isn't it ah okay baron von warhawk it never ceases to amaze me that these south africans saw what

01:26:38.800 happened to zimbabwe and said yes we want that we're so blinded blinded by hatred and tribal insanity

01:26:43.860 they were willing to inflict famine pestilence and economic ruin just so we can kill white people

01:26:49.300 over incidents that happened 200 years ago how can you possibly reason with these people it's almost

01:26:54.100 like they have no conception of the future but i would never go on to suggest that they that that's

01:26:59.300 a fact or anything yeah it's not as if the people who lived there raised their living standards and now

01:27:06.000 that they're no longer in control they've dropped and there's some sort of common thread between the

01:27:10.320 two i know right uh king come says talk to russia now let's stick up for ukraine by making this war

01:27:21.360 last forever and kill as many people as possible some shit lib who would have humanitarian in their

01:27:27.980 twitter bio as well anti-war activist anyway um should we read some of yours bo uh okay um north fc

01:27:37.280 zuma says both space segments are some of my favorites by far oh thank you i did enjoy it yeah i always

01:27:44.100 find them informative i enjoy actually researching them as well it's actually genuinely interesting to

01:27:49.680 me um andrew narrog says so what you're saying is that america uh can possibly elect the meteor for

01:27:58.220 2032 oh yeah it's in the election cycle isn't it oh yeah yeah um okay uh annie moss or annie moss says

01:28:08.920 uh bo you should definitely come visit arizona and see crater rock i'd love to the grand canyon

01:28:13.840 is overrated as it looks just like the pictures sedona arizona is amazing looking as is canyon

01:28:20.380 duchelli or celli um yeah i'd love to i'd love to do i mean i have been across the the american northwest

01:28:29.620 across the prairies and across the deserts to the west coast once in my life uh drove across utah and

01:28:36.060 nevada um but i'd love to spend weeks exploring the grand canyon going to uh crater meteor crater yeah

01:28:46.080 well yeah i'd love to i'd love to yeah and the scaplands up in montana again a um again a reference

01:28:52.780 to randall carlson new england so all of this part of america you know new england is aptly named

01:28:59.880 because it reminded me of england which is the american national park that john ford used in a few of

01:29:05.200 his films with the enormous uh mountain landscapes i don't know because they've got loads of national

01:29:11.680 parks in america it wasn't yosemite was it um but yeah there's loads of places in the in the west of

01:29:17.800 america that i'd love to visit no it was it was more of a um of a desert landscape than that because

01:29:23.000 it was in so i think it might have been in the searchers and a bunch of his other john wayne

01:29:26.960 collaborations john ford uh oh probably a bunch of americans in the live chat screen oh it's called

01:29:35.100 it might just be called john ford point well that would make it easy um george happ says

01:29:41.080 these asteroids are a little too lined up i think the bugs are declaring war i'm from buenos aires

01:29:47.860 and i say kill them all oh that's a reference to um starship troopers isn't it monument valley

01:29:53.060 yeah i've just looked it up uh anyway remember i looked at the chat thank you thank you chat

01:29:58.000 you're welcome monument valley are indeed out of awesome but um thank you very much for watching

01:30:03.220 we'll be back again tomorrow and uh i think is there anything going on after this samson

01:30:08.220 common sense crusade so uh yeah make sure to tune in in half an hour to watch that

01:30:14.440 and uh goodbye

01:30:16.080 you

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - February 13, 2025

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