The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1101

00:00:00.000 good afternoon folks welcome to the podcast the lotus eaters for friday the 14th of february

00:00:04.420 2025 it is friday the best day of the week i'm joined by stelios and stan and dan from

00:00:09.600 voice of wales and today we're going to be talking about the looming end of the ukraine conflict

00:00:15.880 thank goodness an afghan driver whose car terrorized munich probably bought it from amazon

00:00:22.160 and how a uh royal marine fell afoul of political correctness but has been given justice thank

00:00:30.560 goodness um anyway no particular announcements other than that after this there is a lads hour

00:00:36.400 where they're going to be discussing the final points of beer well it is valentine's yeah well

00:00:42.060 yeah it's valentine's day as well which means after this i need to go get a card

00:00:47.440 send our love to the audience uh i'm i'm joking i got the card just before the podcast actually

00:00:54.800 uh anyway not last night then no no i got the flowers last night right let's uh let's begin

00:01:02.480 so uh it looks like that there is a realistic end to the ukrainian conflict looming into view

00:01:08.880 and you can imagine the people who are in favor of this which is people who are involved with it

00:01:13.940 people who don't want eternal wars and you can imagine who is opposed to this which is

00:01:19.300 shit libs uh very very very um screechy women and camp men who want for some reason for ukrainians

00:01:28.540 to die forever in a war against russia and i just can't stand it i actually really hate it the

00:01:33.780 ukrainian conflict i don't think people realize the scope of it so far so we're going to go through

00:01:37.600 some of the details before we do though islander 3 is coming so if you want to get an islander 2 shirt

00:01:43.580 while they're still there go get them now because you won't be able to get them again

00:01:46.820 as you need to order myself one because i don't have a heavy metal one yet and i do want it

00:01:51.040 anyway so the numbers are just horrific and that's that's by any standard because you would think in

00:01:58.800 the 21st century war would be a much smaller affair it'd be more surgical more technological

00:02:03.480 it wouldn't be mass movements of troops but actually no not in russia and ukraine

00:02:07.580 um it the common figure i could find bandied about which is cited in this abc news story but it was

00:02:13.340 also given by new york times and various others uh comes from the former prosecutor general of ukraine

00:02:20.500 who claimed that around 30 000 ukrainian troops a month are being killed or badly wounded and that

00:02:26.600 the ukrainian toll so far is probably north of half a million wow which is huge i mean this is this is

00:02:33.620 leaving demographic holes in ukraine's yeah but the solution to that is immigration well that's uh

00:02:41.880 a different different story it's been announced oh is it oh jesus christ i didn't even see that

00:02:48.760 no it's been announced immigration and you'll know where they're coming from

00:02:53.520 just don't do it anyway so the russians have suffered between 300 and 400 000 casualties

00:02:59.740 soldiers to know the number of civilians and you know the actual number is of course very difficult

00:03:05.640 at the best of times but the point is it is around somewhere of a million people have died in this

00:03:10.640 conflict over the last almost three years uh so you you might think that bringing an end to it was

00:03:16.340 actually a good thing yeah because i don't want millions of people to die in really honestly kind

00:03:22.960 trivial yeah reasons as well but how have they painted the soviet union and i use that word

00:03:30.020 advise it go on why have they painted the soviet union when it had all those countries as a buffer

00:03:36.280 states basically to protect the motherland and when they were given up they were told that

00:03:42.740 nato would not advance into those states yeah vladimir putin said this in the 90s and they've been

00:03:48.960 saying it ever since and they did yeah they did and they also put nuclear weapons into germany

00:03:54.640 yeah east germany i wasn't going to get into it but there is a fair argument to be made that there

00:03:59.720 has been a lack of respect shown to russia's authority in the region well when i was at nato in shape

00:04:06.340 sorry i've got to just when i was at nato in shape there were 16 countries in in nato there are now 31

00:04:13.300 yeah um the the uh the the first remit of it was that we were a defensive organization we will never

00:04:21.660 fire the first shot and then we went into libya and other states as well as an aggressive force so

00:04:29.140 so it has changed from being 16 peace-loving peacekeepers to the withdrawal of the british army

00:04:37.140 the rhine out and also the americans out of the out of uh uh germany to now being uh an aggressive

00:04:44.860 force um and it's expansionist and unfortunately uh well they've broken every every gentleman's

00:04:54.860 agreement or whatever um when it comes to russia yeah um so i'm i just want to carry on rather than

00:05:01.580 really sorry the whole thing but i i'm not uh obviously i'm not against nato or anything like

00:05:06.020 that but there's no doubt that it hasn't been employed as it was as it was meant to have been

00:05:12.240 employed uh and so anyway getting back to ukraine decades now for decades yeah this has been going on

00:05:17.240 since the fall of the berlin wall yeah yeah um so yeah if not before so uh you can go to uh various

00:05:23.600 ukraine tracker websites to see how much money has been spent um it's hard to find a correct number

00:05:30.000 frankly because obviously the number changes uh but uh this one says somewhere around 250 billion

00:05:35.980 euros has been spent uh it's found other numbers which are sort of like 380 billion dollars things

00:05:41.540 like this so is that the official figures it's hard to find direct official figures that's the thing

00:05:46.660 yeah it's because these are all an exact equivalent number will have been skimmed off

00:05:51.220 uh well yeah i mean this is this this is just publicly announced uh totals so from that obviously

00:05:58.960 and zelinski said something like half the money just hasn't arrived and so it's you know very

00:06:03.840 leaky pipe that's transporting this money to ukraine uh because people seem to forget that eastern

00:06:10.040 europe is not just one first world western democracy it's actually full of deeply corrupt states

00:06:15.340 ukraine being one of the most corrupt yeah but that doesn't mean that we should want them to be

00:06:19.820 involved in a war or anything i'm not saying it was justified for the russians to invade or anything

00:06:22.860 like that um it's just when you approach these things with a clear set of eyes you get a better

00:06:29.360 perspective on the circumstances i'm sure you'll find some of the money on hunter biden's laptop

00:06:33.580 well no doubt anyway so here's a map of the ethnic distribution of ukraine and ethnic distribution is

00:06:42.200 always really well mapped out when you look at the languages that people speak uh the blue is ukrainian

00:06:47.960 but the red is russian now you might be wondering why were the crimeans so happy to become part of

00:06:54.060 russia now you know yeah and you can see also there are other large areas in the east that are

00:07:01.340 heavily russian so like 80 plus russian and this is a map of where the russians have invaded and gained

00:07:08.460 control of so as you can see the russians are taking the russian-speaking areas of ukraine

00:07:13.880 people who probably should have already been part of russia anyway yeah and so this is don't forget

00:07:21.120 the capital was in ukraine at one stage only for a few years yeah but um but the the point is there

00:07:26.520 there is an ethnic uh fisher here that is coming to a kind of natural settlement uh this this is not

00:07:35.780 entirely irrational and it's actually kind of normal that the russians should be a part of russia

00:07:42.160 and ukrainians should be a part of ukraine and the welsh should be a part of england

00:07:46.540 just teasing

00:07:49.960 but the the point being this is this is a very natural thing for people to want which is why

00:07:56.640 you had uh donbass and what was the other one that were being separatist uh because they wanted

00:08:03.020 to be free of ukraine because the ukrainians have an ethnic grievance against russians and not

00:08:07.240 unreasonably so the way the russians have treated them has been terrible throughout the 20th century so

00:08:11.720 anyway i'm like i said i didn't want to relitigate all of this or anything like that uh just basically

00:08:16.700 i want because there are going to be lots of people who only watch the mainstream coverage of

00:08:21.100 this who view this as something like star wars oh the plucky rebel ukrainians have been invaded by

00:08:27.520 the russian death star for no reason just because they're evil and they worship the dark side of the

00:08:32.680 force it's like no they have they have interests they have requirements they have geostrategic

00:08:38.820 objectives they have to meet for the security of their own country and if you want to understand

00:08:43.100 these things you have to accept that's true yeah yeah so anyway trump has moved in and decided right

00:08:50.620 this is just coming to an end and finally he said he was going to do this obviously he said for

00:08:54.500 literally months and months and months leading up i'll get this done really quickly

00:08:57.520 and he's getting on with it so uh i'll just read from his truth social post uh i had a lengthy

00:09:04.800 and productive phone call with vladimir putin of russia uh we discussed ukraine middle east energy

00:09:09.140 artificial intelligence the power of the dollar and various other subjects we've we both reflected

00:09:13.940 on the great history of our nations and the fact that we fought so successfully together in world

00:09:17.660 war ii remembering that russia lost tens of millions of people and we likewise lost so many

00:09:22.600 now this is an interesting perspective right and one that you simply will not get from the likes

00:09:28.220 of kia starmer rishi sannak or boris johnson which is to accept that russia itself is a great country

00:09:34.720 with a long history and the russians are sensitive to their own dignity as a people correct this is one

00:09:42.000 thing that the modern liberal neoliberal sort of globalist just cannot accept but it is a definite

00:09:49.080 core part of the russian mind and why vladimir putin does seem to actually enjoy organic support

00:09:55.600 from the russian people even though he's launched an offensive war right vladimir putin as far as

00:10:00.680 they're concerned i think is defending the dignity of russia on the world stage and making them a power

00:10:06.340 like they used to be when they had the soviet union i think to the average russian that is actually

00:10:10.360 important yeah yeah i i i think that if if people were to say that this is like antibi airport where

00:10:18.040 the israelis went in and got their hostages back people have to understand that the people that

00:10:24.960 lived in in in the in southern ukraine have been been butchered and slaughtered by uh by ukrainians

00:10:33.920 as of britallion and co for years and years and years and there comes a point where after the warnings

00:10:40.560 and warnings and warnings by by the russia by russian federation that if you don't put your own

00:10:47.520 house in order we will and that's what he's done yeah so i just want to to hammer on that point a

00:10:54.760 second just because it was just this is just you could never imagine keir starmore boris johnson or

00:11:00.560 anyone else publicly accepting that russia has the legitimacy to exist as a state and therefore

00:11:07.720 should be concerned about its own dignity uh trump does but and he also mentions that at some point

00:11:13.620 they were allies in world war two they say we successfully fought together yeah yeah that's

00:11:18.800 true well that was more my enemy's enemy is my friend yeah yeah but having said that having said

00:11:25.480 that the uh the point is he's done two things he's made this speech but at the same time he's told

00:11:31.940 nato that nato is not a priority by for the united states anymore sorry sorry nato in the west you

00:11:40.120 know europe is not a priority and and so and and ukraine can't join nato so that's been the quid pro quo

00:11:47.600 to vladimir we'll we'll get into it in a little bit because there there are definitely forces who wanted

00:11:53.900 to um as unwise as that might be uh so he carries on and says we've also agreed that our respective teams

00:11:59.280 will start negotiations immediately and we'll begin by calling president zelinski of ukraine

00:12:03.500 to inform him of the conversation something which i'll be doing right now so he's gone above

00:12:08.420 zelinski's head at this he hasn't involved in this he's taken his own action i've asked secretary of

00:12:13.580 state marco rubio director of the cia john ratcliffe and michael waltz and various others uh to lead the

00:12:19.280 negotiations which i feel strongly will be successful and then he says that look i just want to bring this

00:12:23.640 to a peaceful conclusion which is fine and honestly the sensible and mature thing to do at this point

00:12:30.320 in the conflict like a lot of people have died ukraine is clearly losing this war and would clearly

00:12:36.540 have become been knocked out of the war were it not for the endless treasure and munitions we were

00:12:41.400 pouring into them and boris johnson poured petrol yes he did he he hampered a peace agreement

00:12:46.900 was it two years ago now yeah two years and a million men yeah and yeah exactly at the time

00:12:52.960 there's something like 200 000 300 000 dead and now it's 700 000 more so well done boris uh anyway

00:12:59.440 so zelinski posted on twitter that he had had a chat with president trump uh honestly like there's not

00:13:07.820 much for him to say he just says yeah i discussed it with him and hopefully we'll get to have negotiations

00:13:12.940 uh trump made some other comments as well um uh that he uh is on the way to getting to peace

00:13:20.560 he thinks putin wants peace he thinks zelinski want peace and i want to just stop seeing people

00:13:26.040 getting killed and so they're planning to have a peace summit of some sort apparently in saudi arabia

00:13:32.180 some point which i wish it was gaza yeah yeah um it doesn't have a nice hotel there yet um but uh

00:13:40.560 yeah so uh putin had invited trump to moscow but of course uh trump was like well it'd probably take

00:13:45.440 place somewhere else yeah yeah neutral growth yeah um and uh defense secretary pete hegseth uh

00:13:52.980 said that uh um ukraine will not realistically enter nato so the defense secretary of the united states

00:14:00.820 has ruled that out uh he says we want the sovereign prosperous ukraine but we must start by recognizing

00:14:04.940 returning to ukraine's pre-2014 borders is also an unrealistic objective as is joining nato so

00:14:11.740 basically the way the map was as i showed you a minute ago is what it's probably going to end up

00:14:17.260 looking like but that's actually not a terribly unreasonable position because of course the

00:14:21.000 majority russian areas will just join russia yeah anyway so uh people pointing out well hang on a

00:14:27.700 second he's doing this without zelinski's say so it's like yeah because zelinski has lost the war

00:14:33.920 this is what happens when you lose a war you actually aren't in a position to negotiate from

00:14:38.280 place of strength he was a puppet anyway well yeah i agree i can't remember the name of the oligarch

00:14:42.980 who funded him who become the president uh offhand but yeah he's he's he's he's a comedy he's a

00:14:48.860 comedian he's an actor like he's not a great machiavellian political agent i mean i don't see

00:14:54.120 it that way uh not in because i'm going to speak necessarily pro zelinski but because the whole thing

00:14:59.840 as far as what we call the west is concerned is military support and also intel support to ukraine

00:15:05.600 so that is what is being taken away yeah without that ukraine couldn't fight yeah yeah

00:15:11.140 yes um anyway zelinski uh wants to be involved in negotiations which is not at all unreasonable

00:15:19.360 and i don't doubt that he will be um but the western liberal has been trying to advance zelinski's

00:15:26.560 position in the negotiations as if he's the one who has won the war and it's like no he just

00:15:30.840 he's he's the losing party in the war i'm afraid and he's also not the party that has been

00:15:37.160 responsible for the where the wealth and the munitions have been coming from so he's going

00:15:41.600 to end up inevitably taking a back seat in these negotiations because it will be between trump and

00:15:45.640 putin revealing to us that this was an american proxy war against russia launched during the biden

00:15:51.980 administration and prosecuted very happily by biden and his in the sort of the west under his

00:15:57.760 leadership uh things have changed under trump honestly for the more sensible yeah fewer people

00:16:03.560 die because of this and the people to blame are the people that now own vast tracks of ukraine

00:16:08.440 yeah no doubt um black rock yeah yeah yeah no doubt i don't even get into it it's like it's just

00:16:16.980 it's a there was a u.s general in the 20s who wrote a book called war is a racket yeah and

00:16:23.540 smedley butler and he's just so right about it absolutely right so right industrial warfare is

00:16:28.100 just a racket anyway zelinski wants 100 000 european troops as peacekeepers in ukraine uh to keep a

00:16:34.660 ceasefire guaranteed uh as well as he'd like guarantees from nato uh which he probably won't get

00:16:41.080 um but trump has said that he will guarantee it so who knows what that means and uh this uh hegseth

00:16:48.420 also said that everything is on the table in the conversation with putin and zelinski now people have been

00:16:53.300 pointing out bbc pointed out that uh the europeans seem to have been completely caught out by this and

00:16:57.920 outmaneuver so again zelinski didn't know what was going on the europeans didn't know what was going

00:17:02.440 on and suddenly trump's on the phone to putin said like let's wind this down sick of this nonsense

00:17:06.420 because people have got remember as well we we failed to break russia in the way that we thought

00:17:11.140 we were going to we thought that what we would do is essentially just strangle the russian economy to

00:17:15.800 death so that the russian war machine wouldn't be able to function and that they would just end up

00:17:21.060 giving up the war that didn't happen they basically judo flipped us which is why all of us

00:17:24.740 exactly it's one of the reasons all of your prices are shooting through the roof at the moment

00:17:28.660 uh the the russians were the russians have been preparing for this eventuality since at least 2014

00:17:34.540 and they knew that they had some cards to play and they played them and so okay well we can sit

00:17:41.240 there and say russia bad yeah maybe but also russia source of european energy and you you all laughed at

00:17:47.820 trump when he said why are you dependent on russia for european energy laughed in his face

00:17:51.480 and look at you now so just saying uh anyway so various uh foreign ministers diplomats heads of

00:17:58.420 state from europe have been caught completely off guard by this uh europe's defense ministers had one

00:18:04.700 common message there could be no negotiation about ukraine without ukraine in europe at the table too

00:18:09.040 it's like they're begging please can we be involved why would you need to be these people as well were

00:18:13.580 the ones who didn't want negotiations they were the ones who wanted to keep plowing money in and keep

00:18:17.420 the fight going on so to say they want to be part of the negotiations they didn't want to be part of

00:18:22.240 it just shows where they are you know they're not interested in stopping anything they just want to

00:18:27.160 be a part of it yeah absolutely uh bbc say after a frenetic 24 hours of u.s declarations there's a

00:18:33.660 tangible sense that europe's leaders have been caught by surprise and they now fear being bypassed on any

00:18:38.240 potential ukraine deal and deprived of a voice on the future of european security it's like well many of

00:18:43.200 you only spend like two percent gdp on your security or like however much below um the nato requirement

00:18:49.920 for the spending is so the us is carrying europe's defense and has been for decades and you know this

00:18:56.060 donald trump has been literally from the beginning of his presidency back in 2016 complaining about this

00:19:01.600 to you saying look you need to spend more on defense you need to pull your weight and suddenly when

00:19:06.460 you didn't do that are you surprised that he's just ignoring you when he goes to deal with

00:19:10.700 well i don't think he's ignoring them it's it's uh the left and the libtards have all been doing

00:19:16.400 this la la la la la la la because if you looked at his record his record has been withdraw america first

00:19:23.880 no more wars and i'll even talk to north korea oh yeah he shook kim jongen's hand across the dmz

00:19:30.600 yeah and so and so anyone anyone can you know who's compass mentis in this could look and think

00:19:39.460 right uh trump's won what's gonna what what what is he going to do take him seriously that's the and

00:19:46.260 this is exactly what germany's foreign minister uh said uh the call with pucin was very much out of

00:19:51.440 the blue and even if the u.s president had made it clear for months that he was aiming to bring a

00:19:55.400 quick end to the war it's like why did it come out of the blue if you knew he'd been saying this for

00:19:59.100 months like why weren't you taking him seriously you know why didn't you think he was actually going

00:20:03.480 to do something but no like you said they were cooling their heels basically assuming oh nothing's

00:20:07.400 really going to happen no trump's going to make this end in the same way he's just going to make

00:20:10.940 other things happen and the same with gaza yeah yeah and his brother actually need to think yeah oh god

00:20:17.460 he means it yeah he's actually going to be saying he's going to allow the israelis to do whatever they

00:20:23.340 want and they won't be rebuked yep so you know whether you agree with it or not is you know

00:20:28.740 go make your judgments but this is probably going to happen so prepare in advance yeah

00:20:33.460 anyway the people who aren't preparing in advance are of course running our country uh starma's

00:20:39.600 convinced that everything will work out just sunshine and roses like we're just gonna we're

00:20:45.660 literally gonna be like north korea on everything just an archaic state yeah well i mean it shows it

00:20:51.200 shows how what numbnuts knows about nato because it's uh you've got to have a unanimous

00:20:57.520 uh it's a unanimous decision the uh the supreme commander is always an american and if the

00:21:03.780 americans vote no you're not getting it correct and hegseth literally just told you no oh yeah

00:21:10.160 what are you doing oh i hate this yeah i don't even hate me it's just a moron but but that's why

00:21:15.320 they've actually started to form a european army yeah to to to circumvent this but of course they can't

00:21:22.380 even get that right no of course not but anyway so this was a remarkable exchange on british talk tv

00:21:28.740 between richard tice and julia hartley brewer and i just wanted to uh just watch some of this just to

00:21:35.460 capture the liberal class's opinion on what has happened here because they are so stuck in this

00:21:41.520 kind of mist of morality when it comes to international power politics that it completely

00:21:46.980 blinds them to the realities of what is happening it's russia that's killing people if russia stopped

00:21:52.840 fighting if russia wanted to end the war if russia stopped fighting russia could just stop fighting

00:21:56.480 there wouldn't be a war no one became and that would be our job done ultimately ultimately maybe

00:22:02.800 that's what the negotiations ultimately which part of britain would you give away if we were invaded

00:22:07.620 and you want to negotiate peace none at all oh so we wouldn't give away any of britain but it's okay

00:22:12.160 to give away a bit of ukraine hang on it's not us giving it away julia right it's ukraine and ukraine

00:22:16.600 ukraine doesn't want to give it away of course it doesn't but ultimately as everybody said it is

00:22:21.100 zelensky's decision but ultimately we've got to yes we've got to stop killing people if we were invaded

00:22:27.000 and our close allies in nato like the united states basically supported us for a bit but gave us just

00:22:31.780 enough support so we could actually not not lose but we'd not enough to win yeah and after three years

00:22:37.320 whoever was president of the united states said you're in a stronger position for which to try and

00:22:39.980 negotiate a solution so which no and at which point donald trump whoever no let me finish says says

00:22:44.960 says oh well we're going to have a negotiation we're going to we're going to let the russians

00:22:48.600 whoever invaded us keep out of territory just to clarify just how much of british territory would

00:22:53.560 you be willing to give away in those negotiations ultimately in northern ireland there was a negotiation

00:22:58.400 to stop the killing it involved horrendous compromises that lots of people didn't want to make

00:23:03.220 away territory we stopped killing people didn't give away territory that's also we didn't give

00:23:08.140 away territory that's a ridiculous analogy it's a completely valid analogy wars who invaded northern

00:23:13.720 ireland wars stop when people stop killing people no wars stop wars stop when one side is defeated

00:23:20.380 sorry have you heard of the second world war yes did we negotiate the ending of the second world war

00:23:26.980 there are lots of other wars where ultimately people negotiate a peace otherwise you just carry on

00:23:32.740 how long are we going to carry on with this falklands yeah falklands we won oh yeah we didn't

00:23:37.220 just negotiate the argentina and give them some of the falklands why not why not that would have

00:23:41.480 stopped the war yeah why not look ultimately we won that war but there are other wars where it's a

00:23:46.820 negotiated settlement because it's not our problem except it will be our problem when vladimir putin

00:23:51.080 thinks he can take any territory of any country in europe that he damn well pleases and that's

00:23:54.900 hysterical right richard tice handles her really well there he's exactly correct you can see

00:23:59.460 like the hysterical woman on one side very calm reasonable man on the other side no ukraine

00:24:06.740 doesn't want this this isn't like world war ii some wars come to a negotiated settlement especially

00:24:10.860 if you're on the losing side this is why we didn't have to do that with the argentinians

00:24:14.940 tice just completely correct on this point no this is what's going to happen and it should happen

00:24:19.720 at this point and the liberal sort of internationalists say no we've got to feed men

00:24:26.120 into the meat grinder forever 30 000 men a month are dying in ukraine why why is she so passionate

00:24:32.720 you know that you just see her face you know this is personal for her yeah you know she is you know

00:24:36.920 this she's not being a talk show host here this is a moral crusade yeah yeah absolutely yeah and

00:24:42.220 with other people's sons you know that's what really pisses me off well 18 year old that 18 year

00:24:48.400 old went to ukraine you know obviously radicalized by uk you went to ukraine and died on the first

00:24:52.560 out in that he took you know and it's because of people like this yeah it's never going to be her

00:24:57.540 and as far as she's concerned she wants that to happen so she never has to deal with it personally

00:25:02.180 it's like no that's terrible julian it's terrible it's it's a good thing that's coming to the actual

00:25:07.820 better analogy would have been uh world war one and and germany and you see when you when you do an

00:25:14.780 unfair yeah treaty what happens that's a great point actually i wish i'd made that analogy myself

00:25:21.040 it's a really good point stand um but uh no no that was you're exactly right you're exactly right

00:25:28.380 um a fair settlement to ukraine and russia would be a good thing and trump's got a fairly good sense

00:25:34.040 of fairness actually so yeah i i you know he's not a pushover so i'd be surprised if you know

00:25:39.600 everything went terribly for ukraine and zelinski but anyway we'll leave that there um just good to

00:25:44.320 see that it's coming to an end right we have a oh yeah uh matt says why was russia not accepted

00:25:51.000 into nato when clinton and bush uh with clinton and bush when putin discussed this with them then

00:25:56.680 uh would have solved a lot of problems well um you're right samson

00:26:01.340 okay i i can i guess

00:26:07.460 okay no problem thank you um anyway matt says uh yeah why was it not so well this this yeah so back

00:26:18.520 in like 96 or something like that uh vladimir putin asked to join nato and they turned him down

00:26:23.420 uh which would have been i mean honestly it's kind of 4d chess move that yeah well technically what

00:26:30.320 happened is um the question was that it's open to anybody so he said yeah i'd like to join you i'd

00:26:36.700 like to join and they're oh i mean they didn't see that coming but clever to be honest very endorsing

00:26:43.360 biden yeah uh how much nhs funding with this female presenter paid to defeat russia that's he should

00:26:50.080 yeah i should have framed it that way so that's money to take away from the nhs there julia uh and

00:26:54.620 there's a lot of cia influence in ukraine including the 2014 coup uh also deep state yeah yeah absolutely

00:26:59.320 deep state things like victoria newland want uh continuation because of money and fears of what

00:27:04.740 putin would uh find in the bioweapon labs yeah i tell you why they're bioweapon american bioweapon

00:27:10.780 labs in ukraine i mean come on come on come on it's it's obviously that there is so much corruption

00:27:15.640 going on which is why the biden regime was so invested and evidently trump's not involved in it

00:27:20.160 which is why he doesn't care you know he's like no i just want people to stop dying i remember

00:27:23.920 watching the you know about a year or two before all this kicked off this time the bbc documentary

00:27:29.860 on the azov battalion and ukraine's problem with neo-nazis yeah in 2016 they used to yeah guardian

00:27:34.740 yeah oh my god look at all these nazis and then all of a sudden flip you know what we've got to

00:27:39.000 support these now yeah no that's exactly it you know these are our nazis yeah go ahead right so

00:27:44.380 yesterday in germany in munich there was a very tragic event with an afghan who literally drove a

00:27:50.340 mini cooper in a demonstration of people and yet again we saw the same ridiculous reaction

00:27:57.520 by the mainstream media and by people and by leftists especially but before we say more about

00:28:03.920 that we have merch to shill we have here wonderful irelander t-shirts and is it uh is it now time for

00:28:13.020 people to make some is it time for people to make some orders uh i mean yes but that's every day

00:28:20.220 exactly so it's order day order irelander too and we have good news that will soon arrive

00:28:28.240 right so here let's talk about some bad news and let's bear the context in mind so in the last 12

00:28:34.780 months we know at least five major terrorist attacks and terrorist acts in germany so we had michael

00:28:43.560 stuartzenberger who was attacked by by an islamist we had the solingen stabbings at the diversity

00:28:50.860 festival we had the the terrorist incidents in magdeburg exactly one with the car with the car

00:28:59.020 and someone an islamist drove the the saudi arabian drove the car into the crowd then we had the

00:29:09.040 stabbings in ashafenberg where another islamist uh killed uh an old man a 42 year year old man and

00:29:19.020 also he stabbed a baby to death the europe and yesterday we had this really tragic event where

00:29:25.260 a person i think it was enough he was an afghan who literally drove a mini cooper in a demonstration

00:29:33.020 which was a leftist demonstration if you believe by a group called verdi mwr which i'll tell you in

00:29:40.100 a bit what's happened so whenever we see attacks like these we see a particular pattern i have five

00:29:45.940 stages there you can make some amendments so for instance a criminal act is committed politicians

00:29:51.060 express their sympathies to the families of the victims stage three the crime is portrayed as an

00:29:56.040 isolated incident committed by an individual with mental health problems stage four mainstream media

00:30:01.900 politicians will scaremonger about the far right and then they forget and they move on i think the

00:30:07.500 only amendment i'd make is stage one is to say that it definitely wasn't a terrorist attack

00:30:10.960 they know nothing about the incident but they know it's not terrorist related exactly yes there is

00:30:15.940 constant uh speculation about the motives yeah he says that we can't establish what the motive might

00:30:21.940 have been but we know it wasn't terrorism yeah but is there a link to the religion of peace

00:30:27.380 he's just yelling yeah he's just an asylum seeker from an islamic country yes but you don't know he

00:30:34.320 was driving a car and cars have a radicalizing effect on people especially sometimes you know

00:30:38.760 there's so much traffic yeah there are traffic laws i mean traffic driving is right yeah and why did

00:30:45.280 he buy the car you know who sold him the car because they got they got some car dealer yeah

00:30:49.360 yeah you suggested amazon before no well yeah is he called the medi cooper killer yeah and also you

00:30:57.580 know some knives also have a voice of their own they have spirit of their own voices talking to people

00:31:03.040 just animistic ways of yeah right so what happened yesterday was that the driver was arrested

00:31:10.040 immediately and it was confirmed instantly by the police that he was an afghan and the there was

00:31:17.960 speculation about his identity and about stuff so there are several rumors about his age some people

00:31:23.700 say 24 others 27 others 30 i think it's safe to say in his somewhere in his 20s right so let's see

00:31:32.860 here the verdi group oh let's see here the munich car attack we the media they're talking about a car

00:31:44.040 yeah a car the car car did it so car attack suspected munich car attack there's nothing

00:31:53.180 suspected about it there's footage people know that it happened and it wasn't the car the car was driven

00:31:58.880 actually you've got to give sky news some credit there children among 30 injured is car driven

00:32:03.360 into munich crowd in suspected attack yeah implying a person was in control of the car making those

00:32:08.760 decisions yes so good some obviously the editor missed that yeah yeah clearly yeah some of the

00:32:14.780 headlines are are good but uh most of them are not and they say munich car attack latest

00:32:20.100 suspect name then we have munich car ramming that injured 36 investigated as islamic extremism

00:32:28.900 at least 20 injured car convert to islam nbc news yeah and here dw i think that's for deutsche

00:32:36.940 at least 20 injured after car drives into crowd in munich the car was facing east when it came into

00:32:43.640 yeah yeah maybe it's one of uh musk's self-driving teslas yeah yeah maybe they should ban cars just like

00:32:50.260 they call to ban knives after the knives attacks yeah or tweets or tweets exactly exactly yeah because

00:32:57.860 there are people behind tweets you know that yeah yeah not behind cars and knives

00:33:02.440 right so we have we have now stage two we have politicians making mistakes and making uh sorry

00:33:12.160 that's a that's a slip of the tongue yeah they make statements of sympathy and here we have

00:33:18.360 arlof schultz who's the leader of the spd party the current chancellor of germany saying he must be

00:33:23.460 punished and he must leave the country what an absolutely weak response yes a man who murders

00:33:29.980 like however many people including children by driving deliberately driving a car through a crowded area

00:33:36.640 oh well he must be deported deported you should be swinging yeah you know what are you talking about

00:33:43.080 you know oh you're going home now oh no yeah i've got go home to my wife and kids

00:33:47.860 piss off like we're gonna hang you bro and if i i i um i've been saying for many many months now

00:33:55.760 that they should be deported in an urn yeah exactly just i'm sorry i know i i this this profound

00:34:02.640 weakness pisses me off so he has a history of doing this and this is the cover from their spiegel from

00:34:08.840 october 2023 where he says we have to deport people more often and faster i mean don't even yes but

00:34:14.760 before they commit crimes yeah yes and but the point is that he doesn't do anything about it

00:34:19.820 oh yeah well um it's entirely head crew in germany lip service yeah yes and also we need there are

00:34:26.500 federal elections in nine days in germany on the 23rd of february yeah and we need to bear in mind that

00:34:32.380 his party rejected the proposal by cdu the christian democrat union to toughen up migration policies

00:34:40.980 so he makes statements of the sword after attacks but he when when the push comes to shove

00:34:48.740 you only have to look at i mean you're pointing out a german here but you only have to look at uh

00:34:55.540 at uh starmer laying a wreath in southport knowing knowing that there was a biological weapon

00:35:03.540 um and that he'd had a history and that prevent hadn't stopped him and his father hadn't stopped

00:35:09.820 him and in fact it was a terrorist incident exactly so it but the flowers the candles the mock cards and

00:35:18.920 the mock flowers that are put there by um agents i'll put it no stronger than that it's all a pretense

00:35:27.300 it's still theater isn't it yeah yeah they've got a script that they just run through whenever this

00:35:32.740 happens yeah exactly yeah right so the taliban accepted that they could cooperate with germany

00:35:42.760 if germany decides to deport to deport afghans who cause trouble i don't mean to laugh but this is

00:35:47.940 really funny because it kind of implies that the taliban care more about europeans than european

00:35:51.640 governments do yeah like the taliban like what what's happened oh that's awful do you want to send them

00:35:57.200 back like no no no no no we can't do that like god how are the taliban more empathetic towards us

00:36:06.380 than our own goddamn i also like i also like the this is a bit i mean i don't like it but you have

00:36:12.660 to you have to laugh a bit you can't help but laugh at this you can't help but laugh it's just you

00:36:16.980 know the this is called trench humor yeah the people who try to make a statement and just appear as you

00:36:24.800 strong people in the case of the taliban yeah the grown-ups in the room of the taliban yeah we are

00:36:30.260 gonna be the grown-ups here just send them back it's time send them well they probably got no more

00:36:35.600 germans have to die yeah never again never again is now look back in the taliban god right and all

00:36:44.980 this has people really upset with olaf schultz as we know uh he was confronted by a grandma

00:36:51.420 who asked him aren't you morally complicit in every murder that has occurred and this actually

00:36:57.880 shows the algorithm in their minds it's just they are sort of programmed yeah to not care about it and

00:37:04.300 just bury it and why should we just said of course i'm i'm a german politician exactly right and we need

00:37:11.580 to bear in mind that we have he does this and he is losing good 0.8 in just 30 days so all this

00:37:22.680 empty virtue signaling is actually not working yeah it's as bad as starma exactly and um sure this won't

00:37:29.720 improve the afd's chances no no no it's here we see development since the last it will since the last

00:37:37.100 action they they are predicted to get at least a 10 boost boost which is precisely because they

00:37:44.300 are addressing issues that people want that people are concerned about and what is interesting is that

00:37:50.420 we need to show what the cdu did about a month ago they made the proposal but when there was a lot of

00:37:59.160 protest against them for having passed the proposals with the support of afd members they suddenly backed

00:38:06.600 down and it was voted against and they made all kind of ritualistic all kind of ritualistic

00:38:12.940 let's say mannerisms yeah they seemed very cultist yeah to me i must say saying never we are never

00:38:20.480 gonna do this with afd again so they care much more about their their shenanigans and their buffer zone

00:38:28.460 they care more about the cold on the sanitary than about the actual actual consequences of these

00:38:33.320 policies right so the afd made a statement the driver who drove a car into a verdi demonstration

00:38:38.460 in unit in munich is afghan and 26 prediction like the perpetrator in a schavenberg he will also be

00:38:46.180 known to the police and csu governed bavaria and will be required to leave the country and will be

00:38:51.740 classified as mentally ill now a lot of it was a very accurate prediction as you will see so

00:38:59.540 i don't mean to laugh because it's not funny but it's just of course it is yeah yeah it's funny

00:39:05.920 how predictable it is and this isn't just germany this is everywhere you go you know it's always

00:39:10.100 reactionary it's never you know no one's ever dealing with stuff before it happens stopping it

00:39:14.600 happening it's always after the event and and even after the event they still don't mean anything that

00:39:19.300 they're saying yeah absolutely right so before they when they caught him he was shouting uh allah and

00:39:25.860 there are several reports that he was sharing islamist propaganda online oh really but he didn't

00:39:34.000 have the usual profile he didn't have the usual profile he was a bodybuilder and he had around a

00:39:41.740 hundred thousand followers on tiktok and instagram and that's where he posted such content but before

00:39:47.520 we say more about him there there's the main problem here according to political germany's

00:39:55.260 migrants are terrified oh well yeah i mean thoughts and prayers with the muslim community this time

00:39:59.960 yes so according to political wasn't that sorry it wasn't that the newspaper that was uh being funded

00:40:06.880 by usa yeah it is just just just came to mind yeah i don't know why right they say assaults uh stoke fear

00:40:14.180 among germany's migrants in the way wake of an attack on a christmas market in magdeburg

00:40:19.180 migrants in the city are being targeted by right-wing extremists all you have to do is not murder people

00:40:23.960 they were so frightened for the christmas market that on new year's eve they went and started raping

00:40:29.380 and assaulting people yeah that's how frightened they were it's a way of uh grief let's say grief

00:40:35.200 uh strikes people differently different ways yeah different ways it's just didn't have to be five in

00:40:40.340 two months you know what i mean because you just not commit terror attacks it's like fitness it's

00:40:44.800 whatever works for you yeah depends on who you are my problem with it just to say really quickly is

00:40:49.640 that they always say about the backgrounds but why you know if they want that sort of sympathy and

00:40:54.080 support then they should maybe call out this stuff within their community because too many of them just

00:40:57.560 stay silent and we know this oh do you mean like the grooming and rape gangs absolutely and many other

00:41:01.980 examples you know the the community keeps quiet because obviously they're not allowed to tell

00:41:07.040 to tell tales on people you know so they do have to bear some responsibility in staying silent

00:41:12.600 exactly i mean this guy got a hundred thousand followers by posting islamic yeah like almost

00:41:18.140 jihadi stuff like okay you know you could have mentioned it so authorities there are reports that

00:41:25.840 he's he was an asylum seeker whose application got rejected

00:41:29.600 like how are you shocked yeah does that even mean anything now though if it gets rejected because

00:41:37.120 you hear about them getting rejected three or four times before they go on to do this or so what so

00:41:40.800 if it gets rejected what does that actually mean because it doesn't mean that they've got to leave no

00:41:44.160 it means i get to live in germany forever so it's just like unofficial acceptance yeah the issue is that

00:41:50.480 yeah the issue is that um they're the people who govern germany and and europe and i would say also

00:41:57.200 the uk they don't care about the law they just have a really weird it's like a lynching movie they

00:42:03.200 try to interpret it their own way so for instance echr article 8 doesn't preclude deportations it says

00:42:10.720 all or there are all of the people have the right to private and and public life subject to

00:42:18.240 considerations of national security and public safety so it's they have a really weird way of

00:42:25.040 yeah but also the deportation orders are like milk they expire at some point so they expire

00:42:31.360 and then they do nothing they don't enforce the law right so they say here farad n was reportedly

00:42:36.320 known by local police for drugs and theft and is believed to have accelerated this vehicle into the

00:42:41.680 crowd of a thousand strikers at around 30 miles per hour according to swiss public publication blick

00:42:48.160 terrorism experts are investigating the suspect and there are indications of an extremist background

00:42:53.680 anyone foreign who commits a crime should just be deported so he applied for asylum in 2016

00:43:00.880 when he arrived in germany and that was rejected and they say however the afghan reportedly received

00:43:06.400 a so-called toleration permit from the general federal office for migration and refugees which

00:43:12.000 meant that his deportation was suspended until 2023 when he got a residence and work permit until april

00:43:19.040 2025 why it's just we don't want you here but we're not going to get rid of you and they say it is

00:43:25.600 understood that farad n worked for a security service and participated in bodybuilding competitions

00:43:31.280 in his free time he regularly shared pictures of fitness journey with his more than a hundred thousand

00:43:37.200 followers across instagram and tiktok right so it's yet again another failure of the migration policies of

00:43:47.200 european nations and again the same tone deaf reaction but we have an even more tone deaf reaction here

00:43:53.120 by leftists and i think that really leftists are how should i say it's just a just very problematic

00:44:02.480 ideology and evil ideology yeah because they claim to care about social ideals but they don't care about

00:44:10.400 people and i think that says it all they don't care about anything and what happened here the family

00:44:17.680 and friends of the the victims gathered to make a protest and they actually said no perhaps the policy

00:44:25.600 of open borders yeah doesn't have good consequences for our people and let us say they were a leftist trade

00:44:34.640 union it's not just saying that they they were leftists they suffered the consequences of the

00:44:42.720 policies that they did and the friends and family of of the victims support they lamented and the far

00:44:49.920 left militant extremists took the streets of munich and intimidated them and started calling them fascists

00:44:56.320 it's just incredible isn't it left-wing policy left-wing consequence then leftists shouting fascists at you

00:45:02.160 yeah absolutely sufferable i think this shows in humanity on another level because okay you you know what

00:45:10.800 i stand for and obviously i i'm very much anti-left but there is there is a world of difference between

00:45:18.000 going and screaming fascists at you know people who have different opinions than you have yeah and quite

00:45:25.680 another to do it to people who grieve about their families and are scared about their families at

00:45:33.040 when they are grieving yes and especially they're supposed to do it yeah yeah especially they're

00:45:39.760 supposed to have been friends up until yes yeah yeah you see it at the south port trial didn't you

00:45:44.560 you know you had to come to protest there where there was friends and families and people of the

00:45:47.840 community affected by that terrorist attack and you had the far left turn up to counter protest them

00:45:53.600 outside the court yeah this isn't you can't counter protest yes you're just evil yeah and that's the

00:45:59.360 thing um because all else the policy is right that's what they think nothing can touch it and and

00:46:08.480 anything that does impact you've got to call them brandon fascist exactly there's no number of people

00:46:14.800 that need to die before they change their mind because the concept of trial and error is foreign to them

00:46:20.720 and i want to end with another note which actually supports what we have been saying here in the

00:46:25.680 last minutes this group left x on last august they made an announcement and they say that we

00:46:34.240 are leaving x because of due to increasing negativity the unfriendly climate and the new owner elon musk

00:46:40.240 were leaving this platform so 146 views yes but what but what i want to say is that there are people who are

00:46:48.080 even even leftists okay they they shield themselves from the world they cut themselves yeah they cut

00:46:54.960 communication from the world and their policies have real life consequences so that new that new

00:47:00.480 platform blue sky should be called blue sky sky sky sky sky sky because it's just an echo chamber of

00:47:05.520 lefties exactly yes yeah and that you know this is happening in the uk as well my mp carolyn harris the one

00:47:12.080 who regularly falls asleep in the commons you've probably seen her purple glasses looks a little bit like

00:47:16.080 day met now yeah she's she's left you know she left x because she can't you know the abuse that she's

00:47:22.080 been getting which is actual just normal criticism as you get as an mp is too much and she's gone you

00:47:27.600 know not not available or not happy to accept scrutiny yeah it's just i don't want people to be ran over

00:47:33.440 by cars i just don't want it racist yeah you're right uh uh oh hock uh thank you very much for the

00:47:43.360 donation much appreciated um right let's uh let's move on yep yep so we're gonna talk about today

00:47:50.880 something that um is quite you know it's local to us but it's affected the whole of the uk at the moment

00:47:57.040 which is the political prisoners people being taken up for hurty words online where you know people are just

00:48:03.440 expressing an opinion but we're going to focus on three examples because they're closest to us

00:48:07.760 it's more specifically one being jamie michael jamie has been you know all over the media at the moment

00:48:13.280 he's been on gb news a couple of times his solicitor has as well but it's you know whenever you get on

00:48:18.800 onto gb news you know five ten minutes is what you get and this story starts in august or end july last

00:48:24.560 year after the south port um terrorist attack so there was three people arrested first of all two of them

00:48:32.240 went guilty through pressure from the duty solicitor and one jamie michael went not guilty and we spoke

00:48:39.520 to jamie quite a lot leading up to this um the the case actually from well as soon as he found he's

00:48:45.360 arrested he was in touch with his his partner and we're speaking to his partner and he you know what

00:48:49.520 he is saying is absolutely correct i'm not going to go guilty and say that i did this when you know

00:48:53.760 inciting racial hatred i'm not having out of my name when i didn't do that um but we'll look at

00:48:58.560 quickly the first two i don't know if that's um yeah there we go so let me just load it up there

00:49:04.720 so three men charged with insight in racial hatred so you've got it here three men from tonapandi have

00:49:10.240 been charged with publishing threatening material on a facebook account intending to stir up religious

00:49:14.240 hatred contrary to the public order act 1986 and then it gives them the name garen boys 43 jamie michael

00:49:19.680 45 and a 40 year old daffron williams uh all appeared at merthor crown court um garrett

00:49:25.680 boys and daffron williams pleaded guilty and they were due to be sentenced then and then jamie michael

00:49:30.640 pled not guilty so what we'll do we'll go on to the the next one there um there we go perfect so

00:49:37.520 this is the the first one admitted uh stirring up racial hatred online and you know what what he got

00:49:44.080 for that then you know he got sentenced i believe it was three years i think they both got sentenced for

00:49:49.200 to three years you know and and this is given the fact that a lot of them were told if you go guilty

00:49:56.160 you probably just get suspended sentence this is your first offense you haven't done anything

00:49:59.440 go guilty you know it takes off set your sentence anyway it goes down good with the judge they did

00:50:04.320 and they got sentenced to to three years um it's the sort of thing that is this because of the south

00:50:09.440 port uh massacre yeah yeah response to the south in in response absolutely i forgot to mention that so

00:50:14.000 thank you but that's okay so i've been following this particular case but this is this is going to be

00:50:18.080 exactly the pattern that has happened with all of the other rioters that have just been sent straight

00:50:21.920 down two years in jail for either something you know you were standing near a riot or you posted

00:50:26.960 something on social media great to see someone like no i'm not guilty and i'm not gonna just cop to

00:50:31.520 yeah yeah like you say i don't want that on my name and this i knew i knew it would have just been

00:50:36.400 terrible advice from all because it would have so many people who just you know they've never seen

00:50:40.000 the inside of a courtroom they've never spoken to a lawyer they don't know anything about the legal

00:50:43.440 system why would they they're normal people they don't break the law you know and so the first

00:50:47.600 time they've come into contact with it it's like oh just just you know you get to spend sense no

00:50:51.760 you're going down because you trust the person you trust your legal representation to be doing what's

00:50:56.000 right for you but unfortunately it it's it does appear that they you know that just has not happened

00:51:01.680 you know it seems to be that the advice given to these duty solicitors is get them to go guilty get

00:51:06.720 them to go guilty make an example of them yeah so there was the next one then um which is yeah this one

00:51:13.760 so daffron williams you know that this this is one of the guys who um who pled guilty so he was

00:51:20.160 sentenced he's gone down for uh three years and then what for what posting things on social media

00:51:25.600 posting things on social media some of them you know they have you know a bit silly one of them

00:51:30.000 is you know mentioned about burning down mosques and you know yeah you can understand that yeah that's

00:51:34.640 a silly thing to say shouldn't have said it but no offenses and three years in prison

00:51:39.760 yeah you know off the bat like that it could be a bit harsh you know i have a question that i

00:51:44.480 appreciate if you can't answer maybe you know maybe we don't have access to it but are these people

00:51:52.240 incarcerated and imprisoned in let's say prisons with with uh let's say uh worse uh convicts and

00:52:00.640 criminals yes yeah so it's not just let's say economic crime no no no no so a lot of these yeah

00:52:06.960 you're absolutely right except if you if you're a lefty and if you're a lefty you can do that

00:52:12.880 and you can be well yeah he got suspended centers didn't he he he's he's out yeah yeah he's out he's

00:52:19.120 not on remand and yet every every every person that is on what i would say a normal person or on the

00:52:27.040 right has been remanded yeah it's because it's a two-tier system so yeah yeah literally it's because

00:52:33.360 we're being oppressed it's a perfect example of it you know you can make your jones though

00:52:37.600 labor can't be jones yeah yeah absolutely and suspend now it's adjourned till september

00:52:43.040 in the hope that everyone forgets it yeah that's gonna let it go away yeah yeah absolutely um and

00:52:48.560 then obviously so you've got these two gentlemen um that did go guilty they are inside at the moment

00:52:53.680 and you know they're looking i think it's may time they're looking at you know they could be

00:52:57.760 released obviously with with it being half a sentence so you know the time is passing but

00:53:02.960 the question is still there should they be in a cell and i think the answer lies in the you know

00:53:08.320 this was tried and tested then through jamie and his legal representation and his court battle

00:53:13.200 to show that well you know chances are no they shouldn't be in jail you know so if we move on to

00:53:18.160 the um yeah the next one again sorry we skipped this one so mandanized stirring racial hatred on

00:53:24.880 facebook so this is um jamie michael and i thought i had them all loaded on my screen but they're not

00:53:30.320 there but so jamie went in he was in the um let's just say when he was arrested first of all so he was

00:53:37.840 arrested on the friday we've seen the video because we were in court we were there we watched all the

00:53:43.440 the body cam footage the police turns up and they say you know it's nothing to worry about you know we

00:53:48.400 just want to have a chat okay no problem then they say you're under arrest we've got to go into

00:53:52.640 custody and jamie's like what custody you know how long am i going to be there for oh not long

00:53:57.280 don't worry not long so you know in your mind never been in problem with the police before you look at

00:54:01.520 a policeman he's saying you're not going to be long you think i'm not going to worry about nothing to

00:54:05.040 worry about but and you can see why they're doing this because the average british person feels that

00:54:10.160 the state isn't their enemy and so they think oh if i cooperate the person i'm dealing with will

00:54:14.960 be happy that i've cooperated and everything will just go very smoothly because i feel like i've done

00:54:18.400 nothing wrong and i'll be treated very fairly not the case not the case absolutely not the case and

00:54:23.120 and it's you know they just want to get them in to the prison because once you once you're in and

00:54:28.480 you get in process that you you've got no control nothing so jamie then was held um in until the

00:54:35.840 sunday so he spent from friday uh afternoon until until monday actually because that's when they'd have

00:54:42.160 to hold him for court so he spent that amount of time in custody anyway and if anybody has ever

00:54:46.160 been in the custody suite they're awful you know it's torture it yeah it is you know it is we've

00:54:52.960 been in one of them we we spent 30 odd hours you covered it when we were arrested for that

00:54:56.800 migrant and migrant the vaccine place i took the fifth yes but you know again we were not guilty

00:55:03.120 we fought it went not guilty so just for anybody uh who doesn't know but leading up to that court case

00:55:10.320 you had so much pressure put on jamie things like you need to go guilty or you need to consider you

00:55:15.600 might don't have to think about this to take off the third other people are going down for it

00:55:19.760 then they started saying things like you could be looking at seven years you you know this is

00:55:24.400 possible terrorism related seven years um you've got uh we we may have to bring in your partner

00:55:31.360 so his his girlfriend may have to bring her in as a you know accessory or you know guilty by

00:55:37.200 association and they do all this so and when you're in a custody suite that's all you've got is your own

00:55:41.600 thoughts and he's sitting there he's got a nine-year-old daughter who is um disabled um

00:55:47.920 who has learning difficulties and he's the sitting there thinking i'm gonna go to prison if if i don't

00:55:54.880 go if i go not guilty we could all go to prison and then that child is left without their mother and

00:56:01.840 a father they've been intimidating yeah yeah and anybody who's got children will know that that sort

00:56:07.600 of thing would scare the life of you you know that it would absolutely the thought of not seeing your

00:56:11.920 children and even the mother being taken away and not knowing what's going to happen to that child

00:56:16.800 is terrifying and it's the pressure you know that ultimately pushes them into going right okay i'll go

00:56:22.880 guilty just to get it done with and and hope for the best um he was then in court and he said not

00:56:29.200 guilty he thought no i'm not not having this i'm not accepting it i'm gonna have to i know it might

00:56:34.000 cause more problems but i'm gonna have to go not guilty because he's you know he's got morals you

00:56:37.440 know absolutely i love it i i know that being honest and doing the right thing might cause more

00:56:42.880 problems like well there's the problem there yeah exactly exactly that so he went not guilty and they

00:56:48.960 decided then this was back in august and what they decided to do was um well ultimately they wanted to

00:56:56.080 hold him on remand so they they put him in prison so he went not guilty and they said right well you

00:57:00.800 obviously are you know a risk you could end up posting another video online and that could cause

00:57:06.880 more problems whatever but they wanted to hold him from august till february so and for a facebook

00:57:13.280 post seven months yeah and don't forget all the time the offending video was allowed to be still

00:57:22.160 remain on facebook yeah that's how bad it was still there now it didn't breach community standards on

00:57:26.880 facebook and that says something in itself yeah yeah but and it's still there now but they're

00:57:31.440 obviously in the eyes of the law not so good so i know we've got the video so it's just a small part

00:57:35.760 of the video but this is the type of thing that jamie was saying and we've stolen it off gb news so you

00:57:40.960 know cheers but this is the type of thing that he was um that he was saying in the video the one's

00:57:45.840 being lost and five still critical okay um and that's the main reason really why i'm making this video

00:57:54.000 we couldn't make a video about three months ago and i warned that this was this type of thing was

00:58:00.080 going to start happening we as a community should not let any of these type people into our valley okay

00:58:07.840 we shouldn't let any of these migrants who've just come into the country okay settle you in the

00:58:16.000 valleys we need to be on to the councillors we need to be on to the politicians to make sure this

00:58:22.480 doesn't happen because getting bats and knives and stuff and going doing what they're doing that's

00:58:26.720 not what i'm talking about i'm talking about doing things the right way

00:58:30.320 okay petitioning his councillors yeah going seeing the councillors the mp the ams i i would

00:58:37.760 like to engage with the democratic process to get the result i think that the community would like

00:58:42.560 please oh you're going to jail son yeah what what on earth is happening absolutely mad yeah and while

00:58:48.960 he was actually on remand so while he was in prison um it was his daughter's birthday and this is you

00:58:54.400 know these are the parts that get me because you know you you miss your kid's birthday it's it's not

00:58:59.840 nice and his daughter like i said she's got learning difficulties um and you know she was trying

00:59:04.000 to negotiate with her mum you know if i give you all my presents back can i just have my daddy

00:59:07.760 and you know him having to sing happy birthday down the phone to to his daughter well she's not

00:59:13.440 she didn't know where he was but she's having to listen to you know it's awful right and this

00:59:18.080 is you know and it was we'll get into it but it was not guilty in in i would say record time

00:59:23.600 um also his partner's birthday so it was his partner's birthday on the day he was supposed to be

00:59:27.600 released i was speaking to his partner i was like well that's lovely you know because at least

00:59:31.280 you're going to get to spend the day with jamie on your birthday that's fantastic supposed to be

00:59:35.120 released in the morning um there was some mix-up so she then had to spend all day waiting for him

00:59:40.160 and he weren't released until the evening i think it's like seven o'clock at night i'm sure that was

00:59:43.520 an accident absolutely you know must have been must have been now then he went to court uh jamie served

00:59:49.600 three weeks he was granted bail on the second application and i do believe that was down to public

00:59:54.640 pressure luckily you know when these things go online x now is is so powerful it kind of forces

01:00:01.760 the hand of politicians the prison service things like that we put out um you know the fact that he

01:00:08.240 was being held on remand at all is ridiculous his daughter's birthday and you know speaking to his

01:00:13.200 partner and then that went everywhere you know we had yourself sharing it um obviously tommy robinson's

01:00:19.520 ex was sharing it's got a million followers so it it forces the the the hand really of the people

01:00:27.040 they can't get away with it you know if if this wasn't as broadcast on social media he would probably

01:00:31.520 have spent all christmas and up until the trial in in prison this is the reason why we need to shut

01:00:37.920 down social media yeah yeah didn't trump have to intervene against starmer recently about that and

01:00:43.680 i saw a headline that basically trump stopped starmer being so censorious yeah yeah it's just

01:00:49.360 like god we are so lost yeah absolutely and i was having this um debate with someone and they

01:00:54.720 they were saying you know but if trump gets involved he's going to impose tariffs on the uk and it's

01:00:58.400 going to make our life harder and i was like well ultimately it'll make it better though we're getting

01:01:01.520 sent to jail posting our opinions yeah yeah social media bro yeah absolutely and it's you know who cares

01:01:07.600 about you know if things are going to cost more okay well just you know scrimp and save a little bit

01:01:11.520 you know live a little bit more to your means if the long goal is things will get better in the end

01:01:16.880 because you know ultimately where are we going otherwise exactly with this sort of thing great

01:01:21.920 i'll get cheap groceries but i have to i can never express myself and also the glaring double standard of

01:01:28.720 the the government allowing and permitting yeah literally you know all kinds of incitements to

01:01:35.840 violence coming from particular people on the on yeah yeah yeah excuse that it is somehow a kind

01:01:43.840 of suppressed sentiment yeah yeah yeah absolutely and you know i think like in court you could see

01:01:50.320 for a start this like we've got a chief inspector or ex-chief inspector that guides us a lot right and

01:01:55.200 he was sending us the cps guidelines and what the cps would be looking at when accepting to take

01:02:00.320 something to court and normally the police have to battle with the cps and try you know we accept it

01:02:04.400 accept it here they didn't meet any of the guidance nothing there was nothing in there

01:02:08.640 whatsoever that said that this should have even gone to trial never mind the treatment that he got

01:02:12.480 being held on remand for for all that time and in court you could see the prosecution was really

01:02:17.680 really struggling to build a case all that they had from this video is he after the south port

01:02:24.240 terrorist attack he was he'd say things like these people talk and he's and he's talking about and

01:02:29.840 he says in the video extremists people who have been radicalized and he says it over and over again

01:02:34.480 and you know using words like and i'm gonna have to swear because it's quoting but

01:02:38.240 psychopaths that's what that's literally what the prosecution had that them two words and what their

01:02:44.720 goal was was to say that he's talking about every single immigrant that's what they tried to do and

01:02:49.200 tried to paint i suspect also they did some mind reading and said that at the end when he's talking

01:02:53.760 about doing the things the right way yeah the right way they say no that's not what you really yeah he

01:02:59.360 actually meant do things the wrong way you know obviously yeah he literally said it in contra

01:03:02.800 distinction to doing things the wrong way he just yeah yeah absolutely correct and you know something

01:03:08.000 he brought up in court when he was and and this is what he was referring to when he was saying these

01:03:12.000 people we shouldn't be letting these people in our valleys um even and he was giving an example like

01:03:17.040 we've seen riots in leeds we've seen the manchester airport less yeah the the race riot between the

01:03:23.360 hindus and the muslims yeah yeah why do we want this yeah exactly and then you've got the army

01:03:28.480 officer stabbed on his doorstep you had that as well which was all brought up and he was using these

01:03:32.640 examples to say we don't want these people in our country but it was painted the other way you know

01:03:37.040 but just to give people a little reminder these is a little video video two um from leeds and

01:03:42.320 manchester and and when you can in comparison to the riots you saw over here you know this is just a

01:03:48.560 whole nother level

01:03:49.440 and when you don't want to bring this to a nice sleepy welsh village

01:04:09.120 quality of the valley is just disrupted by this yeah and and that's it you know it just shows there

01:04:14.880 was two you know the the manchester airport you got people actually breaking the nose of police

01:04:20.160 officers and being allowed to from pressure violence you know threats of violence from outside

01:04:27.520 of they were released but then you got someone like jamie who literally said nothing and he's he's

01:04:32.880 looking at having the the buck thrown at him now um court obviously went out went on the jamie took the

01:04:40.400 stand you could see that they had nothing that they could throw at him because his

01:04:44.640 character and i've got to mention the the character references that he got in court

01:04:50.000 you know and we're talking ex-servicemen people who you know jamie does massage therapy and

01:04:54.720 rehabilitation and ptsd therapy so he's genuinely good guy he built the community center up in the

01:05:01.920 area he took it over they were going to lose their funding he took it over off his own back with no

01:05:06.240 funding himself put judo classes mma classes dance classes and now it's thriving you know and that's i

01:05:11.760 i think what every community well which would need and what would want so when these references

01:05:16.640 came up he's actually a pillar of the community and everyone comes out to support an actual local

01:05:21.040 hero yeah you know he's got ex-servicemen who you know amputees as well who he helps and they all

01:05:26.720 suffered when he was when he was away so it was always going to be a knock guilty you know the jury

01:05:34.000 retired and within 17 minutes um it they came back in and you know they it had there's no way that

01:05:41.920 said all them jurors were going and in 17 minutes say guilty no way so we we knew it was going to be

01:05:47.920 not good i mean it was less than that because it takes five minutes to settle down and and have a brief

01:05:53.840 yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah no absolutely right so yeah and then you've got the obviously the twitter

01:05:59.280 post i put this one up just so you can see the the amount of views so i don't know if i can scroll

01:06:03.040 down uh on that but just you know it's that it's short you know the the world was watching this and

01:06:10.080 it just goes to show that if it wasn't for things like x oh yeah nobody would know about it because

01:06:15.520 the media the bbc and the original um when the original arrests were made they were making out that

01:06:21.200 he was a racist in intent on stirring racial hatred which obviously wasn't the case yeah um and then

01:06:26.960 you got the daily mail one uh next was you gonna say something there yeah just that he is highly

01:06:32.480 decorated he's he's got three although he's got three medals there's two clasps which means he's

01:06:37.680 been back to that twice yeah yeah yeah and a lot of it is you know humanitarian stuff sierra leone

01:06:43.920 sierra leone you know he's done a lot of you know a lot of like humanitarian stuff rebuilding you know

01:06:49.600 and stuff so he's his character is is impeccable they picked the wrong guy well they picked the wrong

01:06:54.000 marine well yeah yeah so and then you get you know daily mail you know their swings and roundabouts

01:07:00.720 really extra marine is cleared in just 70 minutes of stirring up racial hatred on facebook following

01:07:05.440 southport murders after spending 20 days remanded in prison and that's the only apart from gb news

01:07:10.400 that's the only headline that came out that was that was that was similar to that um jamie was

01:07:17.200 fortunate in a way that he had a he had a fair judge and that's all he wanted that's all anybody wants

01:07:22.960 is a fair judge it's something you don't see very often but jamie was also represented by the free

01:07:28.400 speech union his his barrister or lawyer adam king was absolutely remarkable in court you know you could

01:07:35.520 see he you know he he he understood exactly what was happening he worked for the free speech union so

01:07:42.720 he's got that interest as well of free speech and you know he he played an absolute blinder uh in the

01:07:48.800 trial but he was then invited on to gb news uh which is the next video video three um and then it'll uh

01:07:56.400 basically you know it's just a small segment of that and just to get his opinion on the free

01:08:01.280 speech side of this do you think this was just an egregious kind of trampling on on someone's right

01:08:06.880 to freedom of speech yes i do i think it was an egregious trampling on his rights to uh uh free speech

01:08:15.200 um i should say we got not lucky but we were fortunate uh in that we had a a fair judge a very

01:08:23.760 fair judge um and a fair prosecutor and obviously a fair jury that doesn't always happen right

01:08:31.920 and i think the trouble with charging someone like uh jamie michael for saying the things that he said is

01:08:38.960 that it could go horribly wrong do you think that there are people in prison now for certainly

01:08:44.800 speech-related offenses after the southport massacre who had they pleaded not guilty could well have

01:08:50.960 avoided prison undoubtedly yes do you think they were pressurized into pleading guilty in some senses

01:08:57.680 i know of um one or two at least decisions to remand a defendant in custody uh which would not have

01:09:09.920 been taken that is to say they would not have been remanded in custody in normal circumstances

01:09:15.440 and i think that is likely to have weighed very heavily on those defendants uh when it comes to when

01:09:22.800 it came to deciding whether or not to plead guilty because when you've been taken from your sofa to a

01:09:31.120 police cell to a court cell to a prison cell all in the space of 48 hours for something that you

01:09:38.000 wouldn't have thought was an offense uh the feeling that the system is against you and you're not going

01:09:44.320 to win no matter what uh is likely to be overwhelming and so you're more likely to take the discount for

01:09:50.160 pleading guilty and and uh take it on the chin rather than try and fight it and that's you know

01:09:56.240 that's a really sad state to be in you know because there are people who are innocent who did go guilty

01:10:03.360 under advice from their legal representation who are now still serving thousands of them yeah well you've

01:10:09.760 got you know the likes then of peter lynch i was about to say yeah peter lynch took the ultimate sacrifice

01:10:14.720 didn't he yes yeah yeah absolutely um the so the biggest thing for me obviously jamie got the not

01:10:21.440 guilty verdict and you know that is i suppose um justice in that instance but you know the effect

01:10:30.720 from august until february and the worry and the concern and the you know the missing out on everything

01:10:37.600 that he he did it isn't justice because there should be justice for the people who made this

01:10:44.160 claim and a lot of people are asking well who were the complainants who actually was it just the police

01:10:49.920 had seen this video and said oh we need to have a word with this doubtless it was absolutely doubtless

01:10:54.720 it was actually his politician um senate member his representative buffy williams who dobbed him into the

01:11:03.600 oh my god him and the two previous who are inside now the issue is that governments want to

01:11:10.640 use this community in a communicative way they just because they just care about images especially after

01:11:15.600 the after the trustee that was committed and the events that followed so they literally wanted

01:11:23.200 the news that people pled guilty yes that's exactly right in headlines so people will read this and

01:11:29.120 this okay yeah maybe they were guilty in order to plead yeah yeah yeah there's there's three things

01:11:34.240 to this as far as i'm concerned one is when starmer said they will be remanded they will be put into

01:11:41.680 custody they will be prison was that an instruction and of course you've then got to look at the solicitor

01:11:47.680 general that we've got whose um um affinity with people like jerry adams and others um he doesn't fight

01:11:57.760 for britain he fights for everything against britain and so you've then got that but in the socialist

01:12:05.920 republic of wales the the police are the starsy and it's that's north wales police that's south wales

01:12:12.880 dovet powys and newport and the cps in wales are the same so they they don't care whether there is

01:12:21.760 literally nothing of a case if their instruction is to jail them to put them in prison to incarcerate

01:12:29.120 them they will by crook they will yeah yeah and it's and and starmer said that that um uh that wales

01:12:38.160 is the blueprint he did yeah he did this is yeah that's the lever that they want um you know so this

01:12:45.760 this politician she's a senate member so she's not like a you know counselor it's not like she she's

01:12:50.960 you know big politician in wales she's jamie's politician the ms for the ronda and she was the

01:12:58.000 one who instructed a communications officer to make the call to the police incredible that she'd admit

01:13:03.200 that in public well she she would have loved it if it stayed under the carpet but luckily we were in

01:13:09.600 court and we were able to sit there and listen and when we when i heard that this was this was a call

01:13:14.800 that came in from buffy williams senate but i was thinking wow that that's a that's a big slip that's

01:13:20.640 just come out there but then we found out that it was herbie and the the other two as well she did

01:13:25.280 put this statement out because what happened then is obviously we put it out this is a political arrest

01:13:30.240 this was a politically motivated arrest and and and this senate member this politician is using the

01:13:35.120 police as a political tool that obviously went went viral over over x and and surprisingly facebook

01:13:41.600 a lot of people complained a lot of people putting in um you know letters complaints to

01:13:46.560 the um to whoever it was it comes to what were they called gone up my head now the standards committee

01:13:52.880 or whatever whatever they called loads of complaints have gone in about her she was forced to put in a

01:13:57.520 reply i won't read it all um but it does say uh let me see transparency it says somewhere along in in here

01:14:06.240 that she was actually um she had complaints come in yeah she said my team received several concerns

01:14:13.520 from uh received concerns from several residents regarding the contents of a video posted on

01:14:18.000 facebook sure they did not true absolutely not true this wasn't mentioned in court yeah the only

01:14:23.760 names that was mentioned in court is the people who made the complaint and that was the person who

01:14:27.600 made the complaint and who instructed them to make the complaint and it's the communications officer

01:14:31.760 can't remember his name now but and then biff buffy williams who told him to make the

01:14:34.960 complaint so that's a lie yeah that is that is a lie and and uh let's not let's not forget

01:14:41.600 housing the economy the nhs and education that is the brief for her not law yeah not police

01:14:51.760 and so trolling people and so and we know how we know how um work shy these people are if you write

01:14:58.480 anything and you might be just an inch outside her postcode she'll say oh no you've got to go and see

01:15:03.120 another person uh and so why would she interfere on something that's not a part of her brief yeah

01:15:10.160 she would have a standard letter saying we look after the economy housing educator or we run we run

01:15:16.720 these into the ground sorry we run these into the ground very well actually and and that's outside our

01:15:22.640 remit so so she's she she tells lies uh and and she wouldn't know which which way up or down was

01:15:29.200 yeah being some sort of moral busy body doing it yeah yeah yeah and you know obviously what happens

01:15:34.400 then is that there's a backlash on this post this post gets deleted her facebook gets deleted her ex

01:15:38.560 gets deleted and she's just non-contactable now so she's just you can't speak to this lady

01:15:42.960 anymore buffy buffy the free speech slayer yeah that's yeah yeah but then um obviously that that's

01:15:49.760 this pick and then we've got the article then that came out by from nation comry we'll just skim

01:15:54.160 through this really quickly because nation we call them nation scumry because this is basically you

01:15:58.000 know they are funded by the senate you know i think it's 80 percent of their funding comes direct from

01:16:03.680 the senate they got an 80 000 pound deal 20 000 from usa yeah yeah it's i don't know i would not be

01:16:11.120 surprised at all but what what happens is she you know poor poor buffy you know she misbehaved or elizabeth

01:16:18.400 or elizabeth is a real name yeah oh vile social media abuse yeah yeah and none of it is vile social

01:16:24.960 media abuse it's it's i i would say you know from what i've seen there may be some things that people

01:16:29.840 have said silly things i don't know but from what i've seen it's very fair for people to question

01:16:34.400 someone who stepped outside of their box to interfere politically you know with with an arrest which

01:16:40.480 isn't right but you know just uh we won't don't need to scroll through it all we got a nice mention

01:16:45.760 because we're the ones stirring it all other than the fact that this is martin shipman he wakes up in

01:16:50.160 the morning um with a big stalker on thinking voice of wales because every headline he has to it

01:16:58.400 could be about knitting but he'd have to put in and those right wingers at voice of wales yeah he keeps

01:17:03.520 saying yeah he keeps saying if you're a right-wing welshman go and support voice of wales yeah

01:17:09.120 that's literally why the the welsh senate got them to de-platform them from youtube because they

01:17:14.400 heard the name of like oh no what if welsh people start listening to them and enjoy it

01:17:19.760 so that's exactly it if you're a welshman go support voice of wales yeah yeah and actually the funny

01:17:24.080 thing is he mentions that we're we're now big in llanelli and swansea it not not not the hall of

01:17:31.440 wales we have a larger membership than the whole of the labor party following we don't have a larger

01:17:37.120 membership sorry we're not uh we're not uh reform are we

01:17:44.160 um so then you know this you know what i will say about this is that it is good that you know they

01:17:49.040 do quote us which is good because i think they do this sort of thing so it's under the arrest uh

01:17:54.400 section which i think a you guys are the actual opposition in wales aren't you yeah that's the

01:17:58.880 thing well our twitter tag is the only opposition in wales well there we go so because that is pretty

01:18:04.720 much it but even the conservatives on this at the end yeah put a quote in saying it's terrible that

01:18:10.640 she's been scumbags absolute scumbags i can't wait for these red and blue parties to be wiped

01:18:16.880 out the wales in next year so you got here um spent three weeks on a man in custody mr morgan said on a

01:18:22.800 video jamie's daughter's birthday was happening while he was inside and all that poor little girl wanted

01:18:27.760 on her birthday was her daddy and buffy williams and the communications officers stole that from her

01:18:32.640 uh this has been justice for justice uh justice has been served for jamie there now needs to be a

01:18:37.440 lot of questions asked about the senate member and how using how her using the police as a political

01:18:42.400 tool because she was concerned that jamie was going to be able to galvanize people in the community

01:18:46.720 and that they have the same concerns that he did and the vast vast majority of the uk does uh i can

01:18:52.080 always say voice of wales are going to be asking questions this senate member buffy williams

01:18:56.240 labor and why she thinks it's appropriate to use the police force in a political way because she did

01:19:00.480 not like what was being said this is this is his senate member his representative jamie michael's

01:19:06.000 representative is the one who ratted him out to the police and now it appears she was absolutely

01:19:10.240 wrong to do so so it's nice that they've quoted that because i think that who wouldn't agree with

01:19:15.440 that you know who wouldn't think well you know if she stepped them over the mark she surely should be

01:19:20.080 held accountable people who hate the welsh people and want to see them destroyed in every way shape

01:19:24.160 or form people who want to bring about communist government yeah disagree with that uh normal people who

01:19:29.280 would be called right wing from now on would completely agree so it's good they got your quote

01:19:33.280 yeah yeah so i'm pleased with that i we i'm conscious of time but i want to play a little bit

01:19:37.680 of this video it's just to show because we sat down then with jamie and we were you know we were able to

01:19:42.960 actually go through things with him and you know here we asked him just you know what you do with

01:19:47.680 for the community so we won't play all of it but we'll maybe go through half i i just you know in my line of work i do

01:19:54.880 help a lot of people like um help people with their um so what i'm looking for a mobility or i'm one of

01:20:05.120 my actual best friend led a nasty car accident 17 years ago and i've been you know helping him since

01:20:11.360 since the day was uh you know since the day it happened he's um he's an ex-paratrooper he was um you

01:20:18.080 know he's a very fit guy he's pt um pt instructor in the paratroopers he was captain of the boxing team

01:20:24.720 and he's my best friend and i help him um i help him with his walk-in i do a bit of massages i take

01:20:31.520 him out the veterans he didn't come today because he'd been caught with me all week right um he decided

01:20:36.640 to go to the gym today with with his carer um but if you did come up at another time you'll see i like

01:20:42.560 after we sit around and have a chat at the end then i take him walking and we'll do that a couple

01:20:48.320 of times a week because he just wants to get more mobile he can walk but he walks very slow so we're

01:20:53.440 just working on his speed um and i i got other people um one of my uh customers derek i will i'm

01:21:01.280 with him a couple of times um a couple of times a week and i go to his house massage him and then we go

01:21:06.400 walking over the park again again to try and improve his mobility um one of one of my um guys

01:21:13.760 who they wrote his uh read his reference out in uh in court he's a double amputee at a nasty work

01:21:21.600 accident in work and i go there and help him with his mobility through um through massage because he

01:21:28.800 gets real bad back because he's you know he he walks with a limp with his with his um prosthetic leg

01:21:35.600 and uh you know he does get a lot of back trouble he's he's in his 60s now so he's not uh you know

01:21:42.880 he's not getting any younger and uh you just if i'm not there giving him that back massage every

01:21:48.000 week he's um in fact he's struggled this week now because i haven't been able to do it this week because

01:21:52.560 of the court yeah but he was there with me yesterday when when uh when we had the verdict he was uh

01:22:00.160 you could see the tears in his eyes yeah so yeah i do and i do like this and that one there so you

01:22:06.960 know that just gives you a small idea and people can go on to the to our twitter or x account and

01:22:11.920 watch the full interview there because you know that just goes on and on and you know it gives a

01:22:17.360 a big insight into you know is his mind and what it's like to actually have to go through all that

01:22:23.120 being completely unaware i think the last thing i want to finish on um and i hope i i did that while we

01:22:28.400 were talking so i hope samson's got it there um it's the yeah the gofundme one

01:22:35.360 so what we've been doing is not that one the other one above yeah so what we did because obviously they

01:22:40.400 went through a lot of trouble and you know again like i said when we when i heard about his daughter

01:22:45.600 and you know it does it does get you right and i thought you you can't get that time back you know

01:22:52.080 that daughter is always going to have suffered on her birthday because of this politician so what can we do

01:22:58.400 to try and make up for the time so we decided to make a little gofundme um and you know that that's

01:23:03.840 raised eight thousand three hundred ninety seven pound that and for the people who were saying oh

01:23:08.640 you're trusting dan real money the beneficiary isn't me it's directly to um jamie's partners

01:23:14.320 they are in full control of these funds um so it's nothing to do with me we just set it up and use

01:23:19.920 our platform to promote it and then other platforms have also promoted it as well so if anybody does

01:23:24.960 want to want to chuck a quid in or whatever you can find it on our x account um and i know that

01:23:30.720 they're looking forward to going on a nice holiday as a family so that pretty much ends this segment

01:23:36.320 but you can watch the full interview on our x account okay uh let's go to the video comments

01:23:40.400 in her book salamander luna mentions the old english poem of sir gawain and the green knight

01:23:58.160 carousing at king arthur's court one christmas a giant of a knight bedecked in green enters the hall and

01:24:03.280 announces he will withstand any blow anyone might deliver so long as he can repay in equal kind

01:24:08.480 silence prompts arthur to upbraid the green knight and accept the challenge but gawain intercedes

01:24:13.120 he beheads the knight and everyone is astonished when the corpse bends down and picks up the head

01:24:17.280 which announces that the repayment will be in one year's time before leaving gawain must make good

01:24:21.920 on the promise and the poem explores him being a true knight yeah the the story of sort of gawain

01:24:27.920 the green is one of my favorites it's really good next one

01:24:35.920 welcome back to the gun channel of the lotus eaters nice here we have a model 1895 chilean

01:24:43.520 mauser that i rebuilt from a bear action that i picked up years back at a gun show it is now in 257 roberts

01:24:51.360 back in 2020 hitachi a japanese company abandoned plans to build a new 20 billion pound nuclear power

01:25:15.680 station in anglesey after failing to reach a funding agreement with uk ministers it emerged that the

01:25:22.480 government was urged by planning inspectors to reject the plans over concerns the influx of workers

01:25:30.000 would dilute the welsh language but the same government is not bothered about diluting the english thanks boris

01:25:40.960 the next one this is a friendly psa for everyone your car is spying on you it's now standard

01:25:47.280 practice for car manufacturers to save metrics from your car and sell to insurance companies so they

01:25:51.360 can jack up your rates so if you bought a corvette and take it to a track day that sucks to be you if you

01:25:56.160 sync your cell phone to any modern infotainment system you agree to share all of the data on your

01:25:59.920 cell phone and the in-car microphone to be sold to advertisers nissan claims to track the metric of

01:26:04.720 how many times you have sex in your car now if this concerns you i recommend buying something no

01:26:08.560 newer than 2014 which is when the canvas system really became standard it's this among many reasons

01:26:13.040 that i build and drive what i do by my deeds i honor him v8 yeah there's got to be a way of disabling

01:26:19.840 this stuff right yeah it's got to be a way of disabling it i can't stand it yeah that's the next one

01:26:28.000 come on spot it's recording

01:26:31.760 hello lord of sears i hope you have a happy valentine's day

01:26:41.040 i have no idea what to make of that next one

01:26:43.920 the body politic of military elective monarchy is built on four pillars the executive who shall be

01:26:52.160 the reigning monarch hereditary peers frontline combat veterans all the lower house and the

01:26:58.240 citizenry who shall have to earn the ability to vote all of this is based on an original document

01:27:04.320 centering on the bill of rights 1689 that is effectively throughout the anglosphere now being

01:27:10.480 peer-reviewed and with minor tweaks should be ready to become the supreme law of the land

01:27:20.720 back in the heyday when carl was still sargon of a cad and during our or at least my first

01:27:24.800 introduction to how culture impacts politics and vice versa there was a meme it was either a joke

01:27:28.800 imagining a hyperbolic version of our side winning after being driven to absurd lengths or a prophetic

01:27:33.280 exaggeration of the inevitable outcome when our side took off the gloves and just asserted ourselves

01:27:37.680 either way i'm bemused and gleeful we've now reached that promised point with dei being purged

01:27:41.600 the culture shifting in our favor and v even using the phrase to drive home the point i don't think

01:27:45.360 i'm the only one who feels this way why you brought this on yourself yeah there is something very

01:27:53.760 uh very enjoyable about it funny britain could get some of that action yeah anymore so this is for

01:28:02.000 everyone but i'm hoping to get carl's take especially in episode 1088 dan going over the

01:28:06.960 political spectrum reminded me of an issue i encountered when i was writing my game in early

01:28:11.120 2023 specifically how to deal with alignment with the modern push to try and portray all bad guys as

01:28:17.440 just misunderstood and blur the lines between good and evil i wanted a delineation that was a little

01:28:22.720 more intuitive and dare i say objective while i think i found a good solution i'm curious how you'd tackle it

01:28:32.000 can't answer that in like the minute or two left we've got so uh i'll have to save that for another

01:28:36.960 time sorry is there another one or was that the end great um uh well we're almost out of time so

01:28:48.160 uh lots of people are saying uh things like my two favorite boyos always a good episode when voice of

01:28:52.880 wales are in town uh lots of other people who um ate us

01:29:02.080 you should you should never pregnantly pause i wouldn't characterize it as a lot

01:29:07.760 um but uh no good good comment on the uh ukraine stuff by omar here uh people have never had to

01:29:13.840 fear being fed into the meat grinder treat war like a sports game with no time limit as long as they don't

01:29:18.160 give up they can't technically lose julia is demanding they keep playing because death isn't

01:29:22.640 part of her moral cost benefit analysis yeah i i really i really kind of vulgar you know it's just

01:29:30.080 like but my liberal ideals like people are dying julia you know tens of thousands every month you know

01:29:36.560 just gotta stop um north fc zuma says guys i think we all know the correct solution is to put the airbags

01:29:43.120 outside of the cars and remove anything hard on them i'm adapting the great wisdom of idris elba's

01:29:47.840 plan to remove the points of knives here completely correct just unbelievable isn't it um

01:29:56.480 the keegan a says have you considered starting up a legal fund to provide support to these cases of

01:30:00.560 average citizens being targeted by the government honestly that's what the free speech union is for

01:30:04.480 uh they they don't charge for the service when they provide the lawyer so basically if you want to

01:30:09.600 be a part of supporting these things in the future like i am going to be a member of the free speech

01:30:13.920 union because if we don't do it who is going to yeah absolutely and you know i could just say i'm

01:30:19.840 happy to say on jamie's behalf he is so so grateful that he was given that opportunity because the legal

01:30:24.320 representation he had beforehand was basically they think one of them didn't watch the video

01:30:28.320 you know free speech union came in and they said we watched it we've watched it multiple times we

01:30:31.840 made these notes and he's again on our view yeah well yeah who are you gonna choose if it wasn't for

01:30:36.640 them he would probably be in prison yeah um right okay uh we're out of time there so if people want

01:30:40.880 more from you guys where can we find it uh voice of whales on x vo whales official um there it is

01:30:47.040 and hopefully using that one as well because it advertises the event we got on tomorrow

01:30:50.560 um but vo whales official on x you are stan voice of whales on x as well and and that's pretty much

01:30:57.600 the best place to go really facebook's picking up a little bit now voice of whales on there

01:31:01.200 but x is the place to be great okay well thank you so much for joining us guys thank you uh that's

01:31:07.280 great and uh well we'll be back in half an hour for lads hour where we'll be discussing beer

01:31:12.720 apparently and uh we're if you don't see us then we'll see you next week have a great weekend

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - February 14, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1101

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