The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1105

00:00:00.000 hello and welcome to the podcast of the lotus eaters episode 1105 i'm joined today by beau

00:00:15.740 and recurring special guest nate mr h reviews how are you doing today man i'm good yeah

00:00:21.320 there you go it was a very last minute thing thank you for coming into the office man we

00:00:27.780 really appreciate it uh just where can people find you uh just twitter uh and obviously youtube at

00:00:34.340 missed age reviews nice and today we're going to be talking about uh the truth being out there

00:00:39.400 regarding declassified jfk secrets is that correct to an extent the beginnings of it let's say should

00:00:45.720 be interesting uh whether you will die for ukraine or not and uh i'm going to talk about the lack of

00:00:51.760 leftist male role models because they're all a bunch of pansies and it's it's it's inherently

00:00:58.300 feminine to be a leftist let's be perfectly honest you're taking on nietzsche's slave morality

00:01:03.480 samson says to please shill the merch at the start of all of the segments because the sales are still

00:01:11.680 on they're still there you can buy them if you haven't bought them yet you're uncool and i don't

00:01:16.000 like you uh and with that anything else we should say before we get into the segments

00:01:20.560 no is calvin is is common sense crusade on nope

00:01:26.860 oh okay he's not being held by mossad

00:01:31.380 okay good father robinson robinson having troubles with the

00:01:36.720 u.s visa things so no common sense crusade today no okay all right well in that case let's get into the

00:01:42.720 news all right so as most people know who watch this podcast regularly and or follow me

00:01:47.520 you know that i'm fascinated by the jfk killing um i've done various bits of content about it

00:01:54.800 in the past uh always have problems with these mouses so there's a podcast not too long ago

00:02:02.960 where it first came up that trump's definitely going to release the files if anyone did you ever see

00:02:08.360 uh trump on joe rogan shortly before the election about a month six weeks before the election time

00:02:13.240 it's time yeah and interestingly one of the most interesting exchanges on that i thought was when

00:02:18.520 joe rogan said didn't you say you would do it last time in like 2016 and you didn't and trump is

00:02:24.440 the only time where trump sort of became a bit cagey right because joe just straight up said why

00:02:29.640 didn't you do it the first time and trump yeah absolutely yeah and trump's reply was something along

00:02:35.560 the lines of this isn't verbatim but something along the lines of a lot of powerful people

00:02:41.560 just asked me nicely can we just do it another time basically and trump said uh okay now anyway but

00:02:50.040 then went on to say i'll definitely do it this time almost straight away and as you said it was like

00:02:54.920 it's a cleansing it's time so but what it seems to be oh other content i've done um

00:03:01.000 um that there was a segment that was that segment not too long ago only a few few weeks ago really

00:03:07.320 i did a whole article about it edi plaza's telltale heart there uh you've got me reading it actually

00:03:16.040 and then uh a video was made of that um you can find that on my channel history bro i also had a

00:03:22.520 conversation with dan carlin once and we talked all about jfk um just painting the picture that i am sort of

00:03:29.000 mildly obsessed with it i did a very long form bit of content like two and a half hours there with a

00:03:33.880 a great smaller channel the outcast creative where we talk about oliver stone's film and the real

00:03:38.520 history um so what's happened well if you thought that trump can just click his fingers or just sign

00:03:49.560 some piece of paper and suddenly all the secrets are out well it doesn't really work like that it

00:03:53.960 looks like it doesn't really work like that in fact they have to put together a task force

00:03:59.720 to sort of force the the deep state the swamp the blob whatever you want to call it sort of

00:04:05.560 force them to come clean so you might have thought that the commander in chief the head of the

00:04:11.160 executive can just order it done and it's yeah it seems like it there's still resistance institutional

00:04:17.240 resistance is seems to be very common in the states unfortunately still there yeah um it's interesting

00:04:23.480 to see that i think the first thing to know is that you would need such a thing as a sort of a formal

00:04:29.720 task force um so it's not just gonna all be over and done with like a plaster it's not like one day

00:04:37.480 all the secrets are out and and that's it like a plaster it's just not gonna be like that so

00:04:43.640 um they're they're putting together what is called the house oversight task force on the

00:04:48.040 declassification of federal secrets sounds like hopefully we'll do exactly what it says on the tin

00:04:53.240 um and it's being led by congresswoman anna paulina luna who um is a congresswoman for florida

00:05:01.560 famously pictured in uh several bikinis online well that was the thing she's also in the us air force

00:05:08.040 and seems like quite a serious individual but was also some sort of swimsuit model um i don't make

00:05:14.360 the the thumbnails but i believe the thumbnail for this is going to have her

00:05:17.960 have had some input in this in picture selection i don't have anything to do with it whatsoever

00:05:24.200 but there's an image of her i believe in sort of uh make america great again swimsuit it's not a

00:05:28.600 photoshop that's a real image of her anyway and we know that people click when you put bikini women

00:05:35.560 on the thumbnail yeah beautiful women uh just faces arrows for some reason the psychology if you put

00:05:41.320 arrows on thumbnails apparently i don't know this i don't know all this are we pointing the big red

00:05:45.800 arrow on this one then well hopefully we won't be too crude but nonetheless that isn't a photoshop

00:05:51.160 but um no she also seems to be fair to her sort of a reasonably badass individual seems like from

00:05:57.960 what little i've seen she like doesn't take any shit sort of yeah so pretty like hardline conservative

00:06:04.280 in the states yeah it is i think funny to note that we're gonna finally reveal all the deepest darkest

00:06:09.880 secrets here's the next swimsuit model to to do it it's just like jfk would have wanted

00:06:15.000 right yeah right so okay um it this task force will come under the um the committee on oversight

00:06:24.520 and governmental reform which is headed by uh congressman james coma who's who's that guy behind

00:06:30.840 her very very powerful congressman just like mps in britain some mps have no real power a backbencher

00:06:37.240 in opposition it's got no real power and they've got someone else who's still essentially just an mp

00:06:42.600 but they're in government in cabinet extremely powerful so just the same in congress and senate

00:06:48.440 senators some are powerful some aren't coma is the chairman of the uh of the oversight and

00:06:54.040 government reform committee is among the most powerful congressmen so she's got the backing of the right

00:07:01.560 people um in fact it does seem like i mean so one of the key things is about subpoena power we don't

00:07:08.760 we don't really we don't have subpoenas in the uk it's a very american thing but what that is is sort

00:07:13.320 of a um a writ to sort of legally force you to to stand witness yeah um it's like being ordered to

00:07:23.400 court you can't say no sort of thing and when they had the uh congressional hearings into assassinations

00:07:29.240 back in the 70s those committees were not given subpoena power and people have always rightly in

00:07:37.160 my opinion moaned about that ever since said that okay you put this thing together to have a look into

00:07:41.800 all the assassinations that went down in the 60s and 70s and then you didn't you made it toothless

00:07:46.120 clawless you didn't give them the actual legal power to actually get to the bottom of it right

00:07:50.600 that'd be on purpose as well make no mistake obviously that's on purpose yeah i do wonder how long is this

00:07:55.800 um coma is that his name how long has he been in power in uh not all that long i believe he's been

00:08:02.200 is he a relatively newbie relatively i might be wrong about this don't shoot me if i'm wrong but i'm

00:08:06.680 pretty sure he's been a congressman since like the 2014-16 sort of time well then my question would be

00:08:15.160 is i mean he might be a very powerful person but is this could this not all just be performative

00:08:20.360 it could be because how many people were around uh in the previous trump administration

00:08:25.080 these powerful people that said please don't do this right are they still not around this is

00:08:29.800 the problem isn't it who were they in fact if i was joe rogan when when trump said that i would

00:08:33.960 like said who are those people that said that to you can you give me some names but anyway um

00:08:38.600 maybe being cynical but yeah well we need to have a cynical lens every now and then we'll just have

00:08:43.960 to wait and see whether this task force actually does what it says it's gonna do or not uh i've got

00:08:50.120 a clip in a minute and we'll watch it but someone says one uh one of the um journalists say have you

00:08:56.120 got subpoena power and she says i haven't the task force hasn't the task force hasn't but my boss

00:09:02.200 essentially my boss coma has right and he's completely on board with this project and the

00:09:09.160 other thing we'll see a clip um i think is of key importance is that it's all very well to all very

00:09:15.000 it's good it's okay that you've got this task force and um a committee set up to look into it

00:09:21.000 but if you haven't got the the backing of really important people like the head of the fbi the head

00:09:26.600 of the cia the head of the state department on and on and on if if then if they're going to stonewall you

00:09:32.840 then you'll you'll still struggle but it seems like because the way that this trump 2.0 administration

00:09:38.920 is set up is that everything's falling in line it seems like hopefully the stars are aligning

00:09:45.720 where we might we just might get to the bottom of it we'll see only time will tell um i will i

00:09:53.080 will keep doing segments on it for sure as the as things keep coming up so okay i've got a bunch

00:09:59.080 of clips from a press conference they did it was about a week ago now um and so samson have you got

00:10:04.280 all these clips teed up for us um if you play the all right if you play the the first bit that i put a

00:10:13.560 timestamp on um

00:10:27.240 had reasonable questions of what their government which they find every day keeps hidden about certain

00:10:33.960 issues and for far too long the federal government has not answered these questions

00:10:40.680 this creates distrust in our institutions that ends today the voters of this nation delivered a

00:10:47.720 historic mandate to president trump on november 5th the keystone of that mandate was demanding

00:10:54.120 increased transparency of their government and elected leaders and the mandate of this task force

00:10:59.400 okay um yeah so at least they're saying the right words saying the things that people want to hear

00:11:05.480 is that you know transparency confidence through transparency that's one of the key phrases they

00:11:10.200 yeah they sort of keep saying through this um so yeah if you play the next bit i asked for

00:11:17.240 turn it up a little bit as well for us when our founding fathers stood against tyranny they did not

00:11:21.320 merely oppose taxes they defended the sacred idea of individual sovereignty they declared that no

00:11:27.240 government agency or title could infringe upon the freedoms of speech religion thought and the

00:11:32.600 pursuit of truth for too long the american spirit has been dimmed by a veil of secrecy by a government

00:11:38.920 that has grown too comfortable in the shadows denying us the transparency we deserve but today we stand at

00:11:45.800 the dawn of a new era where the light of truth begins to shine through a few weeks ago president

00:11:51.800 donald trump made a historic announcement if you can stop with the timestamps uh i asked for uh yeah so

00:11:57.960 again it sounds nice we'll see if all this ages terribly or not but it it sounds nice right

00:12:06.200 mental if this doesn't pan out yeah that'd be insane yeah i mean i just hope that um as i say i hope it

00:12:15.160 doesn't age terribly and it's just one more chapter in the story of not getting the truth

00:12:23.560 about jfk and it's not just the jfk thing we'll see in a moment that they're this task force is going

00:12:28.840 to look at a whole bunch of things we'll get to it in a moment just the first one on their docket is jfk

00:12:35.560 um okay if we uh play the next little bit i asked for it is with profound honor that i have

00:12:42.600 been entrusted by speaker mike johnson and chairman james comer to lead the house force

00:12:47.000 or at the house oversight task force on declassification of federal secrets together with the help

00:12:52.280 of the white house our intelligence allies the department of defense the department of justice

00:12:57.400 we'll be conducting investigations into the following the assassinations of jfk rfk and dr martin

00:13:04.440 luther king unidentified aerial phenomena also known as uaps and i've identified submerged

00:13:10.920 objects also known as usos the epstein client list the origins of cover 19 and the 9 11 files

00:13:19.080 boom 9 11 as well just throw that on the pile why not write in there at the end the cherry on top

00:13:24.440 the epstein files and 9 11 where's the where's the diddy list we want we need the the diddy party

00:13:29.960 yes yeah get jfk for a minute let's do the diddy thing let's do that you need to know why that lube

00:13:36.440 was there

00:13:42.200 um so i mean this is great again if they do what they say they're going to do

00:13:47.240 and i'm not sort of um not sort of going crazy yet because time only time will tell but that's quite a

00:13:53.960 remarkable thing isn't it i think if they can get it all done if they do it well i i'm i've maybe

00:14:00.440 i'm missing something here but i weren't they supposed to start coming out within 14 days of

00:14:05.960 him signing that that order what what's happened to that because that's what everyone else was saying

00:14:10.600 you know sign the executive order within 14 15 days 14 days 15 days that's when they're going to

00:14:15.240 start being released but that's not the case now you have to have a task force that goes looking for it

00:14:20.520 why yeah i'm confused with where that dialogue came from that it's going to take 15 days

00:14:26.760 where did that come from no yeah i know i haven't got a brilliant answer for you i mean that's sort of

00:14:31.080 the point i made at the top of the segment is that it's telling isn't it that it wasn't just uh you've

00:14:36.680 got two weeks to get this done get it done rip the band-aid off end of story no they've now had

00:14:43.320 several weeks to hide stuff as she said or hinted at inferred that you need the acquiescence of sort

00:14:52.440 of the the the department of defense department of justice and also more things the department of

00:14:58.600 state all sorts of different things not to mention the white house itself the fbi the cia um so okay

00:15:06.920 can you play the next the next one where the reporter asks about subpoenas this will no longer

00:15:12.920 be a task force that makes bold promises only to fade into that was about right i think i think that

00:15:19.640 i think that was it samson yeah 348 or so about there there you go there you go there you go this

00:15:26.760 will no longer be a task force that makes bold promises only to fade into irrelevance or send strongly

00:15:32.120 worded letters this will be a relentless pursuit of truth and transparency and we will not stop into

00:15:38.200 them until the american people have the answers they deserve we will cut through the bureaucracy

00:15:43.720 challenge the stonewalling and ensure that the american people finally get the truth that they

00:15:47.720 have been denied for too long if we are to endure and thrive as a nation we must restore trust trust

00:15:54.760 through transparency the american people must be trusted to think for themselves to form their own

00:16:00.360 judgments from the truth that they are entitled to know we've been treated like children for too

00:16:04.680 long and kept in the dark by those we elected to serve us there you go so again fine words true

00:16:12.760 and it's all completely true right of action on the back end of it though right yeah the whole idea

00:16:18.680 that um the idea of the warren commission being a whitewash and then never really properly

00:16:24.680 re-investigated it's like yeah you're you're sort of flighty hysterical children the public you're

00:16:31.000 flighty hysterical children you're not capable of under of being allowed to know the truth what nonsense

00:16:39.320 your own citizens yeah just infantilize everyone that's fine yeah here's a set of clear liars like the

00:16:46.760 warren commission like covid like uaps like epstein or 911 um just pipe down and be quiet and stop

00:16:58.120 talking or thinking about it that's what we've been asked to do well hopefully not again if they if

00:17:03.400 they do what they say they're going to do so sorry the next bit is the bit about subpoenas if you play

00:17:07.320 that do you 545 please samson

00:17:25.400 i do the task force is going to be uh subsidiary of the full oversight committee so if we have to

00:17:33.160 issue one congresswoman luna we'll we'll discuss it and we'll take appropriate action but in full

00:17:38.920 full transparency we have a great working relationship as i said earlier with the white

00:17:43.000 house with the dj with the secretary of defense and the secretary of state uh the incoming fbi director

00:17:48.840 i think will be very supportive and we've also been told that the cia cia director is very supportive

00:17:53.880 to put in perspective i think that this issue transcends not just one administration but multiple

00:17:59.320 administrations and it hasn't been until now that we've been able to get people actually

00:18:04.360 in positions of power that will push for transparency now if i find that different

00:18:09.560 entities in the various intelligence agencies are stonewalling us i'm going to make that known to

00:18:13.720 the american people but as of right now we are cautiously optimistic yeah so again um as i mentioned

00:18:21.400 earlier sort of the stars are lining hopefully you've got everyone at the very top of these

00:18:26.840 organizations that are actually willing to do it they're actually willing to collaborate with

00:18:33.480 ripping that plaster off um i mean you'll know if what they're telling is true because you'll be

00:18:39.240 like it'll either be a revelation or it won't it'll either be the most milk toast piece of junk that

00:18:44.520 they release and everyone will just go well why did you keep this a secret then and thus everyone

00:18:50.200 will know that that was just complete nonsense and lies more lies there has to be an element of a

00:18:54.920 revelation here because otherwise why would you have kept it a secret for so long why would you have

00:18:59.480 locked it why would you stonewall people why would you put up bogus um you know committees and things

00:19:06.680 like that like why why so yeah there has to be a form of a revelation you you we will know whether

00:19:12.440 they're telling the truth eventually yeah why do they keep why have they keep peddling for 60 odd years

00:19:18.440 or whatever it is um just sort of false narratives over things yeah um yeah well um i suppose well

00:19:26.760 again we we shall only see i mean if anyone wants to know my personal takes as there's a lot of the

00:19:31.000 clips i put uh links i put up earlier where i i just completely lay the blame at the foot of alan

00:19:37.160 dollars and the cia and to a lesser extent the mob who seem to have been involved in some level but

00:19:44.360 i could be proven completely wrong and it's something else who knows but it seems now

00:19:50.360 well she says if you play the next clip that there were two shooters which right there and then is a

00:19:54.680 slam dunk that it that it's not a single shooter that it's the warren commission and the single

00:20:00.360 shooter theory is incorrect or a lot and let's call it what it is a lie um so if you play the next little

00:20:06.120 clip our first investigation will be announced but it's going to be covering on a thorough investigation

00:20:13.000 into the john f kennedy assassination and i can tell you based on what i've been seeing so far

00:20:18.040 the initial hearing that was actually held here in congress was actually faulty in the single

00:20:23.240 bullet theory i believe that there were two shooters and we should be finding more information as we are

00:20:28.840 able to gain access into the skiff hopefully before the files are actually released to the public

00:20:33.400 so that's a remarkable statement um because that's formal coming from congress there right

00:20:39.400 that's not just someone who's written a novel about their theories and they're addressing

00:20:45.560 two dozen people in a water stone that's congress saying this so i've looked at paperwork and it was

00:20:51.080 faulty looks like there's two shoes that's pretty big isn't it because by definition if there's more

00:20:55.000 than one shooter then there's a conspiracy it's what most people have always really known

00:21:00.520 or felt right but we'll see i think there was i think there was multiple shooters in dealey plaza

00:21:07.960 that day in november 63 i think there may have been at least three possibly four snipers but more than

00:21:15.560 one is all you need for there to be a conspiracy of some description um and then finally if we can play

00:21:22.440 the one one last clip of her talking i'm gonna say um based on what we're actually looking to do with

00:21:29.160 the jfk investigation i'm looking at to actually bring in some of the attending physicians

00:21:33.240 at the initial assassination and then also people that had been on the various commissions looking

00:21:37.560 into like the war commission looking into the initial assassinations there's been conflicting

00:21:41.800 evidence and i think that even the fbi at the time reported some anomalies in the initial autopsy at

00:21:47.000 bethesda maryland all of those though seem to have been uh rinse rinse and repeated in the media to

00:21:54.040 push a certain narrative that we don't agree with and so i think that in order to put to bed some of

00:21:59.000 the uh theories that have been out there on john f kennedy we have to know the full truth and the

00:22:03.880 full truth starts with transparency and that's why these files are so important for the american people

00:22:07.320 to read for themselves okay there she mentioned something which i think goes right to the heart

00:22:13.080 of the whole matter because there's two things at play here one there's the original crime the actual

00:22:18.680 shooting event in in dallas and then there's the cover-up it's the same with watergate there's the

00:22:25.000 original breaking and then there's a whole different side of it is the cover-up um so with jfk one of

00:22:31.480 the things that not just i many many people have pointed to is the autopsy uh the body john kennedy's

00:22:40.840 body as it appeared um in the hospital directly after the killing in texas um the witness witness

00:22:50.360 accounts differ from the autopsy that was done at bethesda um the doctors in parkland hospital in

00:22:59.160 dallas said the back of kennedy's head was missing there's a massive baseball-sized hole in the back

00:23:04.040 of his head because he was shot in the in the front and the back of his head blew out as you know

00:23:09.960 know as the sabruda film seems to show but the autopsy pictures show this the back of his head intact

00:23:18.280 so that's one of the that's one of the discrepancies where you can just say look things don't add up

00:23:23.400 things don't line up things don't make sense something is amiss there's something right and

00:23:28.600 the fact that she mentioned it straight off the bat i was like okay maybe they are going to actually

00:23:32.920 really really genuinely thoroughly investigate it um so okay i do actually have one last clip where

00:23:40.920 someone asks questions about 9-11 um let's say what what what are you going to do about 9-11 like

00:23:46.680 what do you mean what is there to to disclose about 9-11 and she gives her just a very brief

00:23:52.680 word or maybe it's uh i think it's her yeah

00:24:02.760 we just want the truth how much did the cia know in advance but also remember when you have

00:24:07.960 only certain information that's shared with the american people that's when conspiracy theories

00:24:11.960 happen and it's in my opinion that conspiracy theories can be detrimental um it doesn't mean

00:24:17.080 that in the last couple months we haven't been right on a few things but what i will say is

00:24:20.920 i think that we deserve to give this information to the american people um i don't agree with the

00:24:26.600 stonewalling that's occurred and also how do we prevent things like it from happening in the

00:24:31.480 future and we have to know the full picture and the american people deserve to know that as well

00:24:35.720 okay so they're just a hint uh stonewalling occurred in the 9-11 commission investigation

00:24:42.760 apparently according to there was there was some stonewalling happened after 9-11 interesting not

00:24:49.480 supposed to really remember that are we but anyway so just since then as i say this was like six seven

00:24:55.160 days ago that happened a few things have come out in the mainstream media samson if you just every few

00:24:59.480 seconds click through some of these headlines it's just to illustrate um the fbi suddenly discovered

00:25:05.080 two and a half thousand or 2400 new documents can relating to the jfk assassination just sort of

00:25:11.080 suddenly discovered them everyone the sky news the independent the guardian cnn the telegraph

00:25:15.960 writers even al jazeera got in on it saying um oh yeah okay they're starting to say things that

00:25:23.960 they did know um because just say the warren commission one of the most important people

00:25:29.960 on the warren commission was alan dulles the guy that a lot of people said should really be in the

00:25:35.400 witness doc rather than sitting on it sitting on the commission but um well we shall see uh there

00:25:41.000 there was a story that the jfk library uh closed um but the next link shows that actually it was it

00:25:46.760 was it was reopened right quite quickly um so that i think that was just a bit of a storm in a teacup

00:25:53.000 story uh but nonetheless okay i've taken up my time but um uh you can count on me to keep doing

00:26:00.040 segments unless i'm suicided by the cia i'm gonna go yeah i'm not suicidal um i'll keep doing segments as

00:26:10.200 more stuff comes out because and not just on jfk on rfk and on 9 11 and on kovid and epstein um so

00:26:19.560 watch this space all right then we've not got any rumble rents through yet so is it my time yeah i

00:26:26.920 think it's my time to shine it's your go bro let's go let's go um so are you are you guys ready ready to

00:26:34.280 to die for ukraine no oh bro what no no are you not are you not um no no i'm not wait a minute

00:26:44.280 yeah no oh well it would appear uh yeah that's what kia starmer wants um basically let me show

00:26:53.400 oh it is working cool um so yeah basically this is uh this is what yeah use the mouse instead right

00:26:58.520 cool super professional um effectively kia starmer wants boots on the ground he he wants boots on the

00:27:06.280 ground um despite of course you know years and years and years decades now of intentional demoralization

00:27:14.920 of the british people he let alone the fact we've only got about 69 000 troops of course you know but

00:27:22.200 yeah we we we want boots on the ground in ukraine uh to to protect peace even though

00:27:31.160 we're almost at peace deal and that will almost certainly lead to escalation well is is this uh

00:27:37.160 in relation to the projected peace deal that might be negotiated zelinski has specifically said that he

00:27:43.720 will not acquiesce to unless ukraine has a position on the table which is probably probably more because

00:27:49.480 of the fact that they seem to want both sides are like yeah we'll get rid of zelinski is going to be

00:27:55.000 the first order of business get him out of of his position and then put somebody else in well be

00:28:01.320 they'll be happy so he's probably just trying to save his own skin there well so so basically kia

00:28:06.120 starmer said he is ready and willing to put uk troops on the ground in ukraine to help guarantee

00:28:10.360 its security as part of a peace deal now i purposely chose this um to go through because it's the bbc

00:28:16.440 so i mean it's going to be the most flattering uh for the labor government but even this is awful

00:28:22.120 like i i don't think any of this sounds good uh uk prime minister said securing a last in peace in

00:28:26.760 ukraine was essential if we're to deter putin from further aggression in future right surely that should

00:28:34.360 have been done at the start then if that was the case i mean this reasoning doesn't make any sense

00:28:38.760 obviously it's convenient timing isn't it does smack of uh when two guys are gonna fight and one guy

00:28:43.880 starts walking away you then start to talk even big yeah yeah keep on walking it it's you know like

00:28:49.640 you know you're not actually it's not going to come to fisticuffs so you can start talking even more

00:28:54.120 trash if anything yeah it feels like that to me a bit it's an odd one it really is um so he said to

00:29:00.280 the daily telegraph i do not say that lightly i feel very deeply uh the responsibility that comes with

00:29:05.960 potentially putting british servicemen and women in harm's way and this comes off the back end and he

00:29:10.680 also said but any role in helping to guarantee ukraine security is helping to guarantee the

00:29:14.440 security of our continent bro we don't have borders what are you talking about our continent is not

00:29:19.400 secure right this island it's it's always funny hearing these sorts of globalists talk about

00:29:25.560 the security of the continent because well what is the continent what are the nations that make up

00:29:29.880 the continent they can't give you anything resembling a proper answer they don't they don't care about

00:29:35.400 it really they just care about their own positions of power yeah well exactly and this this comes after

00:29:41.480 i don't know if it was actually in here this comes after the fact he had said that um ukraine joining

00:29:47.320 nato is an unavoidable they're on an unavoidable path to joining nato now right all this seems like

00:29:56.280 further escalation at the point we're on a precipice of peace um and obviously you know

00:30:02.200 the question i ask is and i have an answer and i'd be curious to hear what you guys think but

00:30:10.120 why is it seemingly if reports were true anyway that british prime ministers want to scupper peace

00:30:16.680 deals between ukraine and russia now i know people debunk i've tried to debunk the boris johnson thing

00:30:22.360 sure maybe but let's just play devil's advocate and say that he did do that and he's got blood on his hands

00:30:26.520 why do british prime ministers seemingly want to destroy peace deals what do you think

00:30:34.760 uh well in in boris johnson's case i think it was pretty clearly that he wanted his winston

00:30:39.480 churchill moment putin for so long ever since crimea has been in various ways decried as the

00:30:46.040 new hitler he's putler um and he needs to be taken down because otherwise he will bring a new

00:30:52.200 fascism to the continent of europe and he will fulfill hitler's ideal of a united right-wing

00:30:58.360 fascist europe or something ridiculous like that so boris johnson saw his opportunity to go well i

00:31:04.280 can be churchill now any sort of peace deal is entirely the fault of neville chamberlain's and

00:31:10.520 neville chamberlain's only ever ruin what could be a glorious war in which i pointlessly get millions

00:31:16.600 upon millions of europeans killed and it's this story that we've been told since world war ii so i do

00:31:21.560 think that the actual narrative that we've been fed plays into the mindset of people like that and

00:31:27.640 that's that's more of a an idealistic uh reasoning for why boris johnson did it and and on that the

00:31:33.240 the foreign affairs article that went over the peace talks that happened after the conflict to meet um

00:31:37.240 initially started uh does pretty conclusively show that boris johnson while not the determining factor

00:31:43.960 did have a heavy hand in trying to encourage zelinski to step away from the table and carry on the

00:31:48.840 conflict and and embo it is yeah it is odd and it's a very very pertinent question and it is odd and

00:31:55.240 it's difficult uh the answer to it isn't clear i've got a slam dunk okay well um i'd say um

00:32:03.320 dr neema parveni made a video about that very question just the other day which i thought was

00:32:07.560 a very good one where even he said that it's a very difficult question there isn't a a clear cut

00:32:13.800 slam dunk of an answer to it and he gave a few reasons what it might be to do with resources

00:32:19.000 and money and all sorts of things one of the things you mentioned which i which spoke most

00:32:23.800 strongly to me and it does sound like a bit of a weak argument but bear with me i think it might be

00:32:28.680 something along the lines of sort of um just an institutional deep baked into british foreign policy

00:32:37.960 deep baked into sort of the british corridors of power since like the 19th century since the great

00:32:45.640 game are we talking the balance of powers yeah that uh other than the brief hiatus during world

00:32:51.720 war ii where suddenly uncle joe was our ally other than that ever since sort of the 19th century all

00:32:57.160 the way through to today russia and the uk have been sort of geostrategic enemies rivals let's say i

00:33:04.200 mean all the way through the cold war the russian the amount of stuff the russians were doing in

00:33:09.240 london in britain all through the cold war is sort of mad how much it was um so maybe the the foreign

00:33:15.880 office and the apparatchiks and the civil servants just cannot get out of the frame of mind that the

00:33:22.200 russians are the baddies again that doesn't feel like that truly answers it does it but i've got one

00:33:28.520 for you okay you go you go here's my grand conspiracy yeah two words black rock

00:33:34.600 okay all right who is in bed with keir starmer right now who had huge meetings black rock and bill

00:33:43.160 gates we know from larry fink is he larry fink yeah yeah black rock yeah we know that that's

00:33:49.240 strategic that's something which they want to do we know from i know i know it's a wild conspiracy

00:33:53.800 theory but uh not at all i i i would put money on the fact that who will be rebuilding ukraine will be

00:34:00.600 black rock they need as much of uh the territory as possible so they need to they can't have peace

00:34:07.080 because there's strategic elements that they want and where they're going to build stuff

00:34:10.120 um you had bill gates coming in we know from uh chris uh no lewis lewis yesterday talking about

00:34:18.520 he he's put in various freedom of information requests for bill gates and and what they were

00:34:23.160 having with discussions with keir starmer and 10 downing street no we can't because it might affect

00:34:27.240 policy what you what so yeah i mean i'm i'm gonna say it's probably that that's so that's probably

00:34:35.080 a diamond there's probably a dimension of it there is a going to be big business interests who are going

00:34:41.000 to be looking at what happens at ukraine afterwards and saying well we can make a lot of money from this

00:34:45.800 especially depending on um you know ukraine the bread basket of europe a lot of farmland to be going

00:34:52.440 around and a lot less ukrainians yeah than there were although of course like that depends on how

00:34:58.760 much territory they can in in peace deals they might be able to get back from russia or not

00:35:04.120 i think that they want to uh they want to present a if they are going to the peace talks europe's leaders

00:35:11.400 still want to present themselves as having some kind of strong footing to put to have the uh the

00:35:17.480 peace talking uh peace uh oh god the peace negotiations on you don't want to come across

00:35:22.440 weak they still want to say well we need that territory back because the us seems to just be

00:35:28.680 going like this is a complete waste of money now we just need oh we're gonna get done with uh gonna

00:35:33.400 get to us but uh look all of this uh schmoozing that keir starmer has done of course with um schultz

00:35:41.640 olaf schultz uh and you know trying to reset you know european ties it hasn't really worked out um

00:35:49.880 germany schultz says it's inappropriate to discuss sending peacekeeping troops to ukraine which is a

00:35:55.720 pretty major thing i'm i'm aware that even you know poland they're not they're not massively concerned

00:36:01.640 about all of this i mean they're right on the border if they weren't massively concerned i don't

00:36:06.040 really think britain needs to be massively concerned let's be honest we're quite far we've got nukes i

00:36:12.920 don't really think russia's going to start wading their way through europe especially it's ultimate

00:36:19.320 nuclear winter at that point isn't it like let's be honest this is taking them three years to capture

00:36:24.040 this much territory yeah it wasn't even much yeah they got they got um dragged into the mud so to speak

00:36:31.800 for a very very long time german troops have gone toe-to-toe with russian troops in kiev and the

00:36:38.280 donbass before if i recall rightly if if memory serves didn't work out too well from that time um

00:36:45.240 no i mean again germany uh uh much like britain in the sense that they haven't got a giant army

00:36:49.880 haven't got sort of endless tank divisions yeah right i mean exactly like britain it's not their war

00:36:56.760 and again yeah and now who's saying it's uh it's not their war uh is donald trump so he's come in and

00:37:06.280 said uh think of it a modestly successful comedian volodymyr zielinski talked the us uh of america into

00:37:13.880 spending 350 billion dollars i don't know where i don't know where that numbers come from the the 350

00:37:19.400 billion dollars it's more than that if anything yeah i'm not overly sure i would also challenge the

00:37:24.360 framing that zielinski was the ultimate lynchpin behind this and it wasn't just the us wanting to

00:37:31.000 have a nice little proxy war with russia again i think yeah but you know he's trying to save face

00:37:37.080 and all this or like the state department put their puppet zielinski up front to ask for that money which

00:37:43.320 they'd already wanted to give him that's more realistic of what really how it really went right

00:37:47.800 well yeah i mean zielinski's as as trump says here zielinski admits half of the money we sent him is

00:37:54.440 missing he refuses to have elections is very low in the ukrainian polls uh and only thing he was good

00:38:00.360 at was playing biden like a fiddle a dictator without elections uh zielinski better move fast or he is not

00:38:07.080 going to have a country left this is that's objectively true you know unless other countries step up he won't

00:38:12.280 have a country left that is objectively true regardless of where you sit on this uh argument

00:38:17.320 of russia and ukraine in the meantime we're successfully negotiating an end to the war with

00:38:21.560 russia something all admit only trump and trump administration can do biden never tried he didn't

00:38:26.840 they literally never tried uh wouldn't have any dialogue with putin at all um and you know the

00:38:33.080 thing is everyone so there will be people i'm sure furiously typing down below this is still russian propaganda

00:38:39.000 maybe maybe it is right maybe i've been psyoped and into believing all of this and it is russian

00:38:45.080 propaganda however most of this information from western sources well my point is is that however

00:38:51.720 there is clearly a narrative you know if there's one side propagandizing then the population there is also

00:38:58.760 another side propagandizing the population so it's all well and good saying that this may be russian

00:39:03.320 propaganda but stop to think for one second objectively critically think have you not also

00:39:09.160 been propagandized into just blindly following this war right i don't i don't support either side i don't

00:39:15.400 care right it's not it's nothing to do with us i don't i literally don't care i don't care about

00:39:20.520 the most corrupt country going i just i'm sorry i'm not i'm not interested right you know i i just don't

00:39:27.240 want people to die i don't want millions upon millions of innocent people to die i don't want lineages

00:39:31.720 entire lineages completely wiped out gone never never to be seen again generation after generation

00:39:36.360 of people gone a generation of ruin brutal i think that's absolutely awful um and it seems as well it

00:39:43.320 doesn't matter anyway because who the hell is going to fight for us who is going to fight in ukraine

00:39:51.160 gen z aren't proud to be british and they wouldn't go to war for our country half of gen z believing the

00:39:57.240 country is racist so yeah i i think this is also down to a demographics within the country but

00:40:03.000 neither of them are going to be eager to go to war the white kids aren't going to want to go to war

00:40:07.560 because the country hates them so why would i why would i fight on behalf of a country that hates me for

00:40:12.440 the sake of the freedom and liberty of a country i've never been to and don't care about and the other

00:40:17.800 half are going well i'm not european anyway actually so why would i fight for the safety of europe

00:40:23.880 yeah they have other places they can go back to they don't care one small nuance i would actually

00:40:28.680 it's not a small nuance one point i would make is um the difference between going and fighting in a

00:40:33.560 foreign field um for a for a cause which isn't necessarily just or even clear you know am i

00:40:42.520 fighting on behalf of larry think or something on the other side of the world there's the difference

00:40:47.000 between that and um fighting for your own homeland so say just completely hypothetically say

00:40:53.960 the french tried to invade southern england regardless of starmer being the pm be down i

00:40:58.920 would i probably would volunteer to try and defend the coast but that's that's a completely different

00:41:05.400 thing isn't it to go in and fighting a long way away for something which isn't entirely clear

00:41:11.960 and no wonder most gen z gen zedders uh saying yeah no way of course not yeah no wonder yeah yeah

00:41:19.560 and the thing is this is obviously a developing story right guys so there's even stuff that have

00:41:25.080 dropped today that i've noted which i you know i wouldn't i didn't have time to put in the segment

00:41:29.720 but there's even now multiple news outlets going yep conscription is going to be needed conscription

00:41:34.200 is going to be needed conscription is going to be needed um and this all boils down to i guess my

00:41:38.520 closing point is keir starmer is a worse pm than boris johnson a staggering unpopularity laid bare in

00:41:46.040 a new poll the only person uh is the the only person he's ahead of in polling of prime ministers is

00:41:54.280 liz truss which goes to show i guess you know there's two elements there you know keir starmer's in bed

00:42:02.360 with blackrock we know that right he announced it happily on twitter i don't know why you would happily

00:42:08.280 announce that on twitter that's very bizarre yes we're in bed with blackrock they're going to help

00:42:12.280 us so what are you talking about um but this seems to be a very very common trend uh amongst a lot of

00:42:20.360 leaders powerful leaders is that they will initiate wars to save their premiership

00:42:26.920 so is this not again these are my these are my closing thoughts i guess

00:42:30.280 is that is this also not a potential uh distraction technique it's multifaceted obviously black the black

00:42:37.320 rock thing was a bit of a funk conspiracy all right calm down all right but there's probably some

00:42:41.480 element to it um but it could be an element of his trying to save his premiership you know he is

00:42:47.320 incredibly unpopular so so incredibly unpopular and he's a raging authoritarian this is an ideologue

00:42:54.680 through and through i mean there's certainly an element i feel like we're a long way off from our next

00:43:01.400 general election so i'm not sure how that would would work or play out and also going on for

00:43:07.480 already right this is the thing right how long is it going to go on for consistently if there's just

00:43:11.720 boots on the ground as peacekeepers all right yeah so a good point yes that could it could be indefinite

00:43:16.280 not indefinite but that could last for years and years and years the thing is the idea of um going to

00:43:21.320 war in order to gain popularity yeah that's a story as old as time uh but it has to be just right

00:43:26.920 so for example a classic example the first thing that sprung to mind was maggie thatcher in 82

00:43:33.640 uh she was quite unpopular she'd been promised since 79 she was quite unpopular the falklands

00:43:38.680 happens she becomes the second most popular pm ever after churchill she gets another she's another 10 years

00:43:44.760 nearly uh just under in number 10 because of that so there's a classic example when it worked that gambit

00:43:51.160 worked but that's because the falklands was a completely different kettle of fish

00:43:55.480 to us sending some troops over as a peacekeeping force in the donbass right chalk and cheese

00:44:01.240 situations i i'd agree with you on the caveat though that the entire media apparatus is this is a black

00:44:11.560 and white fight russia is evil they are evil right they are literally satan incarnate and ukraine poor

00:44:19.480 little ukraine they need to be saved and then you get keir starmer wading in you know he's already

00:44:26.440 made a point before he gained access to 10 downing street of going hey this is our 10 year plan this

00:44:34.440 is what we're going to be doing for the next 10 years that's all that's that's a bold claim to make

00:44:38.680 sir 10 years in power i hope not uh so he's already made that claim so i don't know it's

00:44:48.280 yeah i i agree with you that yeah it's completely different framing but the media has tried incredibly

00:44:54.120 hard to demonize russia non-stop and and all russians as well right like so i i don't know it's um

00:45:02.520 um i wouldn't put it past them put it that way hmm i think i hope a lot of people haven't bought

00:45:08.200 it uh never bought it in the first place but are increasingly seeing through it a bit like i've

00:45:12.920 got nothing against the average russian dude i don't yeah right they all seem pretty based if anything

00:45:19.320 i'm sure russians and ukraines are lovely people your governments are screwed though i'm

00:45:23.160 not pro-kremlin i've said a number of times i think putin is he's not a putler right but he's not a

00:45:28.840 good guy like look at the litvinenko murder and loads of other examples like i'm not pro-kremlin

00:45:35.880 i'm not pro-putin but i've got nothing against the average russian person come on yeah um anyway

00:45:42.920 i hope that's clear enough and if you've got anything to add them so harry there's nothing that

00:45:47.720 i can add really that hasn't already been said here all right slam dunk all right we've got a rumble

00:45:54.200 rant thank you very much to buka 505 for five dollars saying uh quote guys you don't understand

00:46:02.040 it's not important at all to protect europe or britain from muslim boat invasions it is important

00:46:06.520 to protect us all from russia's cheap evil cheap oil and gas unquote i mean that's the narrative that

00:46:13.480 you'd be sold that we have been sold and uh yeah it doesn't really hold up when you just put it plainly

00:46:19.400 does it yeah we can't protect the channel from dinghies but we can protect eastern ukraine from

00:46:27.720 endless russian tank divisions yeah yeah right okay okay sure sure all of a sudden there is something

00:46:34.280 worth defending about europe for the sake of who knows what anyway last segment for today uh i will

00:46:40.200 be talking about the tragic state of leftist men and uh that is because there has been a recent glaze

00:46:47.320 piece on slate talking about our favorite twitch streamer hassan piker do you remember this gentleman

00:46:53.880 do you remember this guy the big brown big brown bull's nephew isn't he he's the man who still

00:47:01.240 refuses to fight sam hyde after all of this time he's an incredibly rich socialist i am aware of piker

00:47:09.080 but i've not really watched any of his content every now and again someone i follow will make a video

00:47:13.720 about him he's uh i'm not on tiktok i'm not i don't he laughed when the queen died uh yeah yeah

00:47:19.880 yeah i don't video of him he said he said that america uh deserved 9-11 that was a fun one yeah i

00:47:25.800 remember that guy awful human being yeah that is pretty scummy behavior his content is essentially

00:47:31.240 him sat around watching stuff now but the the the reason for this is that uh over the past 10 years

00:47:37.960 especially the left have really struggled to find male role models for young men because it is an

00:47:45.880 inherently feminized movement they've been trying to the democratic apparatus not that hassan piker

00:47:51.960 is part of the democrats he's very critical of them but the there are other people like dean withers who

00:47:57.160 i'll speak about in a little bit and people who are on the left like hassan piker who the media is

00:48:01.560 trying to push as in this article a left-wing joe rogan just a big muscular bro who you can sit down

00:48:10.200 and have bro talks with about things like trans rights and the oppression of minorities and all of

00:48:18.280 those cool things that you and the bros like to talk about when you sat down yeah i always want to you

00:48:25.080 know it's so i always want to talk about feminist oppression when i'm at the pub and that's what hassan

00:48:30.200 piker offers that and also live reactions to videos which is mainly consisting of him going and getting

00:48:37.720 food while the video plays and he and people pay money that's his content yeah people pay money for

00:48:43.320 it there's a very famous meme now it's really low energy it it sounds like he needs to go get his

00:48:48.440 chicken nuggies so obviously he has to leave the chair there the classic meme of live hassan reaction

00:48:54.280 and it's just an empty chair uh but uh and and as as nate mentioned as well he is uh somebody who um

00:49:02.520 is very very very rich is not afraid to show off how very very very rich he is and yet at the same

00:49:07.800 time still identifies as a socialist uh he makes a lot of money and we would also like to make money

00:49:13.080 and if you could help us make money and i am not at all a hypocrite because god damn it i want your

00:49:18.680 money spend your money i'm ashamed with capitalists here right here no champagne socialism here no

00:49:24.600 champagne socialism buy the shirts buy the shirts why haven't you bought the shirt yet are you a

00:49:31.160 pauper you too poor to buy a shirt buy a shirt buy a poster hell buy a mug it's not that expensive

00:49:38.440 loser anyway moving on yeah see there you go you're checking out the price you're gonna get something

00:49:45.720 nate you're gonna get something i saw the car you rocked up in here you can afford a shirt nate

00:49:50.840 come on come on don't get stingy on what's that in your pocket nate that's some money in your pocket

00:49:55.720 it's my phone oh okay all right thank you it is money these days uh i suppose so car shame me

00:50:01.640 no the opposite i was i was doing the exact opposite there i can't get that car it does annoy me when

00:50:06.760 you've got these people that uh claim to be socialists or communists or even just leftists

00:50:11.720 um when in fact their actions show that they are uh straight up capitalists essentially they are

00:50:19.080 part of that is just that is just flatly hypocrisy isn't it really yeah but he can always justify it

00:50:27.400 with any kind of uh logical uh tautologies to just say well you know socialism isn't being poor

00:50:34.360 socialism is when you spread the wealth and yada yada actually actually historically socialism is when

00:50:40.600 you're incredibly poor and nobody has anything except for the people in the high tower which is

00:50:44.920 um you know a fair thing but that's a very old criticism of him at this point i just wanted to

00:50:49.480 go over some of this article and how it presents him and how it tries to present him as being some

00:50:54.920 kind of very positive role model for young men because i mean we've all seen the uh polls showing the

00:51:01.800 divergence in political ideology between young men and young women where women are skewing increasingly

00:51:07.080 left men are beginning to skew increasingly right these gender divisions are becoming very clear

00:51:11.560 because men understand that leftism is an ideology that inherently hates them it promotes them to do

00:51:19.160 things that are unmasculine behave in ways that are incredibly feminized and to hate themselves for

00:51:25.720 being men and having masculine interests so they see that and they go i'll do the opposite of that

00:51:31.400 thanks and they'll go to somebody like joe rogan who just wants to you know smoke a joint and talk

00:51:38.200 about lifting weights and chimpanzees bro on his podcast because it's just more appealing to them

00:51:43.880 right the right or even the center don't talk about toxic masculinity really yeah except to say

00:51:50.920 that's a ridiculous idea yeah other than to other than to refute it so what is it that somebody like

00:51:56.040 hassan piker or some of these other leftist male influences can present to these young men to say

00:52:02.280 you know what i'm going to be a leftist i'm going to be somebody who fights the righteous fight for

00:52:08.440 the liberties of oppressed minorities and such well most of this article is mainly just like a boring

00:52:14.760 biography of the guy amazing you you would hope that it was a bit more well i mean it's in depth in

00:52:23.000 his background but you would hope that tell me about it because i don't know a great thing about

00:52:26.120 him other than he was related to chenck that's literally basically it's well i mean it sounds

00:52:30.280 like he was related to chenck he went to university in florida and became a guy who started to organize

00:52:37.800 like um like nights out for a lot of people what did he read at uni do you know i think he studied

00:52:42.760 politics at university um and then he was able to get a job part-time well no sorry uh yeah a job at

00:52:51.000 the young turks sure um doing sales calls and then decided on his own initiative because he was bored

00:52:57.160 of doing that to start recording videos for them which they ended up editing and putting it on and

00:53:01.880 since then he grew his audience initially through them and then has moved on to doing his own streams

00:53:06.920 on twitch he still associates with them somewhat obviously because chenck is his uncle and they

00:53:12.040 interview chenck a few times in this but it's nothing that interesting he's just some university bro guy

00:53:20.680 who ended up being a massive leftist and it doesn't really explain to you how he became

00:53:26.840 a massive leftist other than i mean i would argue that in america especially um people of non-white

00:53:33.400 backgrounds seem to gravitate a bit more towards those ideologies not necessarily when it comes to the

00:53:40.520 like cultural stuff like uh gay rights but piker did right so so why is it that he is a an icon

00:53:49.800 for these people well let's find out so for many young male liberals supposedly an endangered species

00:53:56.120 according to the article yes rightfully so they've determined that the more tempered and polite avenues

00:54:01.000 of left-leaning media the nightly slate at msnbc the edgeless punch lines of late night shows

00:54:05.960 leave them cold instead they have found a common movement with this 33 year old socialist dicking

00:54:12.040 around on his computer in that sense piker is in possession of one thing the democrats desperately

00:54:17.560 want now more than ever shortly after the presidential election when it became clear the

00:54:20.760 party was hemorrhaging young men on the right the commentariat bemoaned the absence of a liberal

00:54:25.560 joe rogan and uh who could be the bulwark against people like aiden ross joe roden dave portnoy and

00:54:33.480 theo van and here we get um a very suspect as far as i'm concerned paragraph from this uh from this

00:54:41.720 author luke winky here uh so here you say well here is piker he stands six foot four with a sharp jawline

00:54:51.400 and ripples of coiled muscle he is a bit homoerotic it does just a little bit twisted steel and sex

00:54:58.920 appeal while i was spending time interviewing him he offered that i oil up his coil glistening muscle

00:55:05.160 no that's not part of the article but i wouldn't be surprised if it happened he is conversant in

00:55:10.040 bodybuilding gaming anime professional wrestling and every other interest that tends to make up the

00:55:15.560 media diet of boys of a certain age his bulge and calvin's thirst traps have started libidinal riots

00:55:22.440 online according to an unofficial census conducted by his community in 2024 his viewership is about

00:55:29.960 two-thirds men i don't know that sounds really gay everything that they've tried to use to describe

00:55:36.920 why it is that he is popular with men it sounds the way that this author has put it you see you could

00:55:44.280 you could phrase it in a way that doesn't sound like you're drooling and typing with one hand as

00:55:49.720 you're writing this but the author made this sound really gay it sounds and calvin's thirst traps

00:55:57.880 they're somewhere between super gay and hyper gay ultra gay perhaps yeah i see the thing that the

00:56:04.920 thing is i can kind of understand what they're saying like oh you you lift weights yeah young

00:56:09.160 men are interested in that you like video games young men interested in that you know those are all

00:56:13.640 interests that young men hold which seems to me that this is suggesting it's kind of like a bait

00:56:17.800 and switch that he's offering you join because he feels like he's a guy that you'd be able to get

00:56:22.840 along with and go to the gym do some lifting with and then he turns the tables and says so trans rights

00:56:29.880 i just and it just it is it like it kind of like bait and switch like i thought we were here to

00:56:35.240 watch professional wrestling and anime bro why are we going to the pride parade this is so bizarre like

00:56:42.280 obviously this is a leftist outlet trying to promote a leftist person but using entirely left

00:56:48.360 like their entire outlook is obviously quite leftist so clearly they're they clearly they're gay

00:56:54.360 well obviously look you just don't write that you who you wouldn't write that otherwise you just would

00:57:00.760 not write that i would never write that about another man like that ever so yeah obviously this person's

00:57:05.400 gay so you're trying to try to promote no there's anything wrong with that but you're trying to

00:57:10.440 promote like this guy is this this thing to appeal to you know men through a homoerotic lens

00:57:19.320 a leftist homoerotic lens what this is not going to appeal to anyone just going to be off-putting

00:57:25.400 and again what is it that they're just what is it that they're offering to young men in terms of

00:57:29.800 a belief system and something that they can hold on to and give them meaning in life well what earth

00:57:36.120 is that quote sorry horny in a repair what is that oh this is when he was in universe when when he was

00:57:41.720 younger and growing up in um in istanbul oh right yeah yeah uh but they say that he is pro-palestinian

00:57:49.000 liberation pro-immigrant pro-trans pro-choice and unapologetically himself does that sound

00:57:55.960 appealing to most young men out there obviously lives in a mansion surrounded by security i mean

00:58:02.920 i'm sure living in a mansion is aspirational isn't it sounds like a leftoid npc just ticking all the

00:58:09.160 boxes yeah and it goes on to describe his bachelor pad all honoring his unique strain of bro-friendly

00:58:16.360 progressivism bookcases pack naruto manga next to revolutionary scholarship an oil painting of

00:58:22.120 bernie sanders depicted as a leather-clad punk singer gazes toward the mile-wide kitchen island

00:58:28.520 the refrigerator brims with protein shakes zin canisters in every flavor most revealing of all

00:58:34.200 might be the sticker plastered on the oven it reads i love being mad on the internet now parts of that

00:58:39.720 you know protein shakes fine enough having books that's fine but the way again the way it's described

00:58:44.920 this man is 33 years old and it sounds like a 15 year olds idea of cool right yeah which why have you got an

00:58:51.880 oil painting that was the thing i was yeah why have you done that that's sort of mad to me to my mind

00:58:57.400 to my sense of taste that's crazy why why would you so again this like having a shake of our poster or

00:59:07.240 something it's like it's cringe yeah that's cringe yeah anyway i mean look look at this this is a

00:59:13.320 picture of his thing you know this might appeal to some people to me i mean you know if this is your

00:59:19.720 thing that's fine it's a bit childish to me these kinds of the way he decorates his house

00:59:27.880 and if it's what you're into fine but um you know it doesn't seem that appealing to me

00:59:34.040 if this guy is the left-wing joe rogan the guy that you look and look at and go that's awesome i want

00:59:40.680 to be that guy and the rest of the article is just dedicated to going oh here's his life why

00:59:44.840 he's got a trampoline uh i don't know i don't know that maybe that's a dog bed or something

00:59:50.600 oh okay but it also doesn't help that they try and make it sound like he's the left-wing bro he's

00:59:55.880 the guy you could go for beers with and do row things and go and go and lift and do cool things

01:00:02.040 and then he advertises himself uh oh sorry uh like this yeah he's not remotely bro like let you don't

01:00:10.840 drink beers these people don't do this you don't drink beers he went to japan recently and all of

01:00:16.280 this was posted on his own account and by other accounts reposting pictures that he'd put up on

01:00:21.480 his instagram which is just uh oh really yeah there you go this come on dude the disenfranchised

01:00:30.920 young man of the west is going to be convinced by this oh he's got big brussels uh big muscles

01:00:36.760 though but he's he's dressed like a gay cat fairy or something like the the maid outfit that's not

01:00:45.080 that appealing just bros being bros don't you do this with your bros

01:00:53.320 i don't think any of them are drunk they might be on drugs but i don't know

01:00:57.800 so what are they doing so weird it's just weird it's just very strange isn't it remarkable here's

01:01:07.000 some more footage yeah the the crossover between finally we've found exactly the joe rogan audience

01:01:14.120 is going to look at this and go what have we been missing out on yeah my god forget muscle cars and ufc

01:01:20.440 give me a bit of that action please yeah it's really the crossover in the trans rights and tone

01:01:26.680 police in the broadest sense between leftism or socialism and the the economic theory of socialism

01:01:33.720 and being a sexual degenerate how do they ever not cross over like what they are they just trying to

01:01:39.800 say that i don't get it i've never really understood why there's the nexus there there are

01:01:44.840 between leftism and being a freak there are a few like it's so socially conservative

01:01:51.480 leftists is it but they're very rare these days they used to be if you look at sort of 1950s 1930s

01:01:58.360 1950s the labor movement in britain you had sort of hard-bitten miners yeah right the deadly serious

01:02:06.600 men's men yeah yeah working men's clubs stuff like that a million miles away from what this is whatever

01:02:13.000 this is let's not even speculate let me qualify it with then in the modern era the crossover between

01:02:19.800 leftism and perversity well let's consider what socialism and leftist leftism seems to mean uh these

01:02:29.480 days well you can call yourself a socialist but be a rich capitalist in actuality that's fine but if you

01:02:41.400 backtrack on sexual degeneracy trans rights uh toxic masculinity any of that sort of stuff that's

01:02:48.920 beyond the pale so being a leftist socialist these days is actually just about it's about the degeneracy

01:02:55.000 it's not about the economics you're saying it's hard baked into the that that's all it is now that's all

01:03:00.200 it is yeah that you can you can be this as long as you say garfield says trans rights you don't have

01:03:08.760 to read any lenin pamphlets or be conversant with maoist thought you just need to dress up in a french

01:03:15.000 maids weird thing and okay yeah support gaza as well support gaza of course yeah yeah that's that's

01:03:21.080 socialism even though they would literally throw him off a roof and a reminder for all of the manly men

01:03:25.880 fans of hassan piker that he's still ducking him but translator you got anyone you want to call

01:03:31.560 out in the heavyweight division oh you know it's lad you know that hassan piker i'm coming to kill you

01:03:39.480 in los angeles at your house or in the ring no in real life i'm going to stalk him and become obsessed

01:03:47.560 with him and wear his makeup and his dresses and use his skin as a coach like the ancient irish did

01:03:55.400 well still not answered the call he's still not answered the challenge

01:04:02.040 no i mean if again if you want to prove that you are like a manly man who other men can look up to

01:04:08.200 i'm an inspiration big guy calls you out you can make money for charity with it donate it to all of

01:04:15.400 your favorite causes there's a lot of good that can come of it now i don't you're a pussy i don't know so

01:04:21.080 it's not gonna happen i don't know how old sam hyde is but i imagine about the same similar age

01:04:26.760 oh really oh okay i was about to say i would imagine um hyde is older maybe a little but um

01:04:34.520 it's obviously sort of you know not a complete slobbery thing like i'm not saying he's in brilliant

01:04:39.720 shape but i would have thought if all things are equal if piker had any training he might be able to

01:04:47.480 beat it's not like i mean sam hyde's a big bloke but if piker is in fact six four um why not accept it

01:04:54.360 well unless you're just he's a bitch a coward yeah yeah and so so that's the sandpiker so the left are

01:05:01.640 not sending their strongest but there is the new generation of concubines like dean withers do you

01:05:09.800 do you remember that in the uh in the lead up to to the election when dean withers and all harry

01:05:16.840 sisson and all of the democratic twinks were saying about uh that you need to go out and vote for kamala

01:05:22.440 um the navy seal who took out osama bin laden said he would make them his concubine i see you

01:05:31.640 remember that yeah i thought that was funny oh i still first take on that was like that's really

01:05:36.440 weird and that in itself is weird and gay but i don't wait it's actually just hilarious it's actually

01:05:41.900 just funny i don't think at the time he thought that he was being funny i thought he thought he was

01:05:46.060 making a really great threat but he's rolled with it since then so good man so you know this

01:05:52.420 it starts off all right okay saying that he's going to the gym good for your mental health

01:05:57.880 exercise great for you physically and mentally so that's a good start i can't i can't disagree

01:06:02.580 nobody can disagree good just quickly ask who exactly though is dean withers is he just a social

01:06:09.060 media guy or has he actually got any astroturfed social media influencer popped up out of nowhere

01:06:15.400 alongside the democratic tiktok um harry sisson types and then hog type probably a recipient of

01:06:22.740 usa and then every every single one of his posts despite the fact he's done nothing notable

01:06:27.520 seems oh wait i think he used to be like a streamer um where he would play video games and say the n

01:06:34.300 word on stream which we'll mention in a moment he's not like a young congressman or an up-and-coming

01:06:38.500 starring no he's just some kid he's just okay he's just some kid who's like i'll vote kamala i hate

01:06:43.660 trump etc etc so what outside of saying go to the gym what is it positive that he can offer for young

01:06:50.700 men who may have been disenfranchised feel disenfranchised by people and ideas that they

01:06:56.220 see on the on the left what is it they can do well he can tone police people and morally browbeat you

01:07:03.400 as you would expect a nagging wife to the most masculine thing that you can do he uh he's he

01:07:09.200 retweets these clips himself so he's very proud of these little things that he does on his little

01:07:13.520 show that i've seen popping up and i just wanted to hear like if you're a young man is this an

01:07:18.820 aspirational way to live your life you call people racist when you yourself has said racist slurs

01:07:25.320 y'all think it's okay to be racist as long as you apologize you think i'm hypocritical because i went

01:07:31.040 from being racist to non-racist because i fulfilled the three qualities of accountability apology and

01:07:36.840 genuine change my character and yet you think i'm hypocritical because i call out other individuals

01:07:41.800 that have not fulfilled those three qualities and have been unapologetically racist since the 70s such

01:07:47.200 as donald j trump that is not hypocrisy that is fact sir you only want to call it hypocrisy to

01:07:54.460 off you skate away from the fact that this 20 year old white boy on tiktok and youtube can hold

01:08:00.200 himself to a higher degree of accountability than the president of the united states of america

01:08:05.500 wow that was a slam dunk right there my gut reaction to that is just just pipe down little

01:08:16.700 boy just pipe down now we don't need to hear from some smug little child some know-nothing child

01:08:22.240 don't need you in the public discourse particularly so you've not no value you've not been won over

01:08:27.340 yeah seems to be of no value it seems like the quintessential just entitled bratty douche there's

01:08:34.660 absolutely no no um there's nothing about him there's no substance there's literally nothing

01:08:40.140 going on upstairs because he's not lived he's not had a life right there's no there's nothing there's

01:08:45.080 no experience that he can pull from that is worthy of any discourse with anyone older than five

01:08:50.640 also it's just the same message that young men have been getting for ages which is that if you

01:08:55.100 have said something in jest as a joke years ago that didn't really mean anything back then like

01:09:00.900 he said the n-word a few times on stream when he used to play video games when he was like 15 or

01:09:05.200 something well you're gonna have to hold yourself accountable to that and apologize for the rest of

01:09:10.780 your life so that you can show that you're somebody who cares about the real issues you need

01:09:15.300 to hold yourself accountable 24 hours a day every single day every single week and you just go god

01:09:21.800 that just sounds miserable you know what i'd rather do that sounds really miserable stop the

01:09:26.100 self-flagellation yeah and just enjoy my life yeah sounds like a much better much better option

01:09:33.040 to be honest and i would say never apologize never explain and apologize when someone insists or tries

01:09:39.580 to extort an apology out of you if that guy then no then no that's not happening then now i might

01:09:44.560 have done but no not now it's a guy that he was replying to there it said actually you know what

01:09:48.620 mate i i'm genuinely i'm sorry actually you you've convinced me you go no no it's not good enough

01:09:54.960 you don't care about their apology also you get you get the moral lecture you get the brow beating

01:10:00.720 and then the person on the other side of the call just doesn't respond because you're like

01:10:04.500 oh i can't be asked to respond to something like that and then he sits there all smug like ha ha

01:10:09.760 i've beat you if i say something so stupid that you can't respond that means i win

01:10:15.320 because i got the last word that's right i did it but the best response to this that i've seen i

01:10:20.760 just came across this clip the other day it was it's fantastic is him basically doing that whole

01:10:24.820 spiel on a podcast where he's being interviewed and you get to see the reaction of an honest to

01:10:30.680 goodness woman do this which is you know women something that young men in particular quite fond of

01:10:37.200 traditionally historically culturally he doesn't look like possibly possibly toxic masculinity

01:10:42.200 so you can get a real life example a case study of if you're a young man you adopt this ideology

01:10:50.140 how will women see you okay let's when i was 14 i slurred and that the n word was a part of my

01:10:56.560 vocabulary the r slur was a part of my vocabulary uh is because that is caused by racist socialization

01:11:02.200 and education that is absolutely deplorable what my so my perspective is what i did was wrong

01:11:08.080 uh 110 it was gross it was deplorable i'm sad of the boy that i used to be and i i you know

01:11:13.660 regrettable that i was ever like that um but where i stand now is after being exposed to

01:11:18.680 information knowledge and education uh that i used to better myself that i used to finally make the

01:11:24.020 recognition that i shouldn't be saying these words sure um i then decide to turn around and i try to

01:11:28.500 share that with as many people as possible and in all reality that is my motivation for doing what i do

01:11:32.420 today point blank period said slurs for a very long time in fact i've openly talked about how i have

01:11:37.320 used slurs in my past on my platform for you know like a year because i think that is a very important

01:11:42.040 point for education you know like the point is is that we can change uh you know like the socialization

01:11:46.500 of the youth the point is is that if i can benefit and change my perspective and my worldview to be

01:11:51.120 more beneficial to those around me because of this education so can other people why are you laughing

01:11:56.120 why is this funny i think this is so funny why that was a very deep point this is by the way this is

01:12:02.820 just get laughed at in the face because yeah you can go on all that spiel you can come across as

01:12:09.500 as i'm so sincere right now guys i believe in it so much i've changed i've done it and and some people

01:12:16.740 will just see straight through you because it is bollocks and it is embarrassing so um

01:12:24.220 yeah the the left still not sending their best when it comes to young men i think that the gender

01:12:31.640 divisions are gonna continue yeah it's her reaction was quite funny that was gold just goes through all

01:12:40.080 of that and she just laughs straight in his face doesn't even try and cover it up no i find this so

01:12:45.200 funny yeah it's funny how um even little children can quite often tell a liar or it's just insincerity

01:12:53.560 right oh yeah yeah most women hate weakness if you find a woman that that doesn't that likes

01:13:01.580 weakness that likes to be the absolute dominant partner in a relationship that's going to be a

01:13:05.320 horrible relationship for you bro uh most normal women they don't they don't like it i don't want

01:13:11.080 you to be like that right they don't want to be going out with a someone who can't protect them

01:13:16.160 right ultimately and somebody who won't challenge them as well this is the point that's always made

01:13:22.220 about the the shit testing i was just going to talk about they want you about shit testing they

01:13:26.220 want you to have to be able to say no you've got to be able to step up to that shit test quite often

01:13:32.340 in my experience almost every single day almost every single conversation has a tiny shit test

01:13:39.560 nestled in it somewhere not that i would not i'm i'm in bliss um

01:13:45.500 anyway let's let's watch some of these uh watch some of these video comments oh you got a few um

01:13:54.740 i'll go through them afterwards yeah yeah the greens are no longer the worst political group in

01:14:00.120 australia this dubious distinction now belongs to the teals which are not a formal party but rather a

01:14:04.440 coalition of independent members aligned with the left faction of the australian liberal party

01:14:07.880 and the greens they exhibit authoritarian tendencies having largely supported the introduction of hate

01:14:11.980 speech legislation in australia additionally they advocated for mandates related to covid 19

01:14:15.740 vaccinations which have been linked to more fatalities than the virus itself as well as

01:14:18.620 mask mandates their agenda includes advocating for increased restrictions and higher taxes aimed at

01:14:22.000 combating climate change and they are also led by male hating feminists and are the worst people to

01:14:25.120 ever have power in the australian government despite holding only seven seats in the house of representatives

01:14:28.220 that's very interesting i wasn't aware of these teals get in the bin yeah yeah get in the bin of history

01:14:36.840 please asap uh do you remember what is it what did they call the uh the the gang in um in the american

01:14:43.100 representatives there was like aoc and there was a there was a click yeah yeah yeah a very similar

01:14:49.840 thing i think five different congress women that were sort of a very similar ilhan omar as well aoc yeah

01:14:57.160 yeah yeah it was the click um again unless you're exactly one of them um uh no one's gonna like you

01:15:05.660 no one likes it no one wants it really unless you are one of those women it's very very targeted politics

01:15:18.220 this is winter last year way too much snow but this is winter this year

01:15:28.700 it is barren and i can't wait for spring

01:15:35.660 global warming there you go it's the only explanation

01:15:39.340 human-made co2

01:15:41.340 get that bill gates chemicals in those cows we need to get them to stop farting right now

01:15:47.580 and now it's time for shiba inu

01:15:51.180 remake theater

01:15:53.020 with duke and sakura starring as obi-wan kenobi and

01:15:59.340 of course anakin skywalker in star wars episode three revenge of the sith

01:16:09.580 you may ask why is anakin being played by a small black dog female dog because we all know anakin was a

01:16:17.660 little bitch

01:16:21.740 very cute dogs yeah they are very very cute dogs they look well behaved as well

01:16:28.780 it's a very famous clip where he talks about sun dimming flying aircraft up into the air and

01:16:34.060 dropping particular chemicals to block out the sun operation dark storm

01:16:38.860 and initiate

01:16:56.300 may there be mercy on man and machine for their sins

01:16:59.020 i wonder what that clip was taken from that looked like an anime yeah yeah i wonder which one

01:17:06.540 yeah let us know in the comments which one that was and we'll check uh later um yeah i think it would be a lot easier to

01:17:13.020 not distrust bill gates and other people like that if all of their plans to stop climate change didn't resemble cartoon super villains

01:17:21.020 yeah yeah it's it's that simple guys yeah no sure

01:17:27.740 bo's mention of having to catch people red-handed in the days before cctv and meaningful forensics

01:17:31.980 made me think and it's a bit of yes and no medieval coaching houses required patrons to pay

01:17:35.980 before they stayed the night and the gates were locked until morning so riders couldn't bolt because

01:17:39.260 prevention is better than a cure on the other hand the highwayman dick turpin was identified by

01:17:43.340 his old schoolmate james smith through a letter that turpin wrote from prison and subsequently

01:17:47.100 he was identified in person after smith traveled from essex to york for that purpose even today

01:17:51.820 with cctv we oftentimes rely on eyewitness testimony and tips from people who know the perpetrator

01:17:58.220 yeah it's a very good point and i could talk all about this maybe one day it's not high on my list

01:18:01.980 but maybe one day i'll do an epochs all about sort of the history of crime because it is fascinating

01:18:07.340 the way people were caught sometimes in the pre-modern era and the the sort of the the bar of where just

01:18:13.580 or what the nature of justice is in the pre-modern or ancient world um it is obviously goes without

01:18:19.500 saying very different to today um but yeah um it's why people were again in the pre-modern era were a

01:18:28.460 lot more suspicious because you had to be yeah like the idea that it's just a complete given that you trust

01:18:35.740 a stranger and and you know like we do now you're just supposed to trust strangers right until they do

01:18:41.500 something wrong well that was not really the case that was like no the the default is that i don't

01:18:46.620 trust you if you're a stranger not out of bigotry not out of small-mindedness out of necessity we don't

01:18:53.260 know you you're foreign you're a straight i don't necessarily mean from a foreign country you're just

01:18:57.420 not from here and so we're going to distrust you until such time as we're you know that was the that

01:19:03.260 was the norm much more i would like to live in a high trust society again for a brief period of my

01:19:08.060 childhood i did but in most of this country that's long gone now so i i think when you when you have

01:19:13.820 a a population that can police itself then being able to trust in strangers is something that is is

01:19:21.020 a good reward for it because it just makes life easier for everybody but the way it is now of course

01:19:26.780 i mean you should always teach kids about strange danger stuff like that this is an update on the

01:19:33.420 trans terror cult group the leader of the group jack z's lesota was apprehended alive in western

01:19:41.020 maryland he was found with michelle zazko the two of them were armed and a third member named daniel

01:19:47.420 blink was apprehended as well there is an upcoming trial for two of their members in the bay area california

01:19:54.780 and this is the trial that's in jeopardy because the victim in that case curtis lint was assassinated

01:20:03.980 physiognomy on them wow brutal not one of them seemed to have normal physiognomy they they don't

01:20:14.780 leftism is mainly a biological disease

01:20:20.220 fraser nelson has investigated the benefit system for channel 4 doc and was recently interviewed by

01:20:26.700 the guys at trigonometry the welfare system is yet another bottomless pit of tax-funded cash

01:20:33.580 but nelson actually convinced me that by way of assuaging its guilt society offers long-term

01:20:40.060 claimants a fortnightly check so it can forget about them with ease

01:20:47.820 horrifying picture yeah i mean i i i'm not i'm not socialist or anything like that remotely but i think

01:20:55.740 there are certain elements which are good in a well in in the welfare system for sure um you know i

01:21:02.700 think that there are unequivocally people that would need you know the welfare system that there are

01:21:09.100 people there are people that physically actually cannot work and for those people it's great but

01:21:14.540 you can't have a welfare system and open borders man you can't you can't have no checks and balances on

01:21:19.340 the welfare system you you just can't and i'm so sick of paying for people that could very easily

01:21:25.420 just go out and work i'm so sick of this nonsense absolute nonsense yeah of course there are some

01:21:30.540 people that if the state didn't help they would starve to death then yeah um right but yeah have

01:21:37.660 that with open borders or just general purpose abuse across the board it's not it's not sustainable

01:21:44.300 is it it's just simply and obviously not sustainable there should be no native uh indigenous brits that

01:21:49.580 are homeless whilst we're housing people yeah right just come in on a dinghy that is that shouldn't be

01:21:55.660 a controversial statement yeah statement of fact yeah that should just be a given no that's it that's

01:21:59.740 absurd that's when you know true evil is happening before our very eyes i'll read through these rumble

01:22:05.740 rants that we've got here so alex trusk says get trump to promote hassan piker and sam hyde's

01:22:11.500 fight and call out for being a horse tax folder enthusiast i've never heard that euphemism before

01:22:18.220 the engaged few homoerotic question mark as a homosexual hassan piker's toxic femininity

01:22:25.100 is not even a little bit erotic this is the uh the age-old questions between um

01:22:34.380 gays and bundles of sticks you can be gay without being a bundle of stick sticks if you understand

01:22:41.340 my meaning and i think that that's what we're seeing there hassan is a bundle of sticks yes jim

01:22:47.340 mason you know what i mean when i say that don't you i don't really

01:22:55.020 uh i'll let you figure it out uh jim mason what's a very disparaging term for a gay man

01:23:01.340 oh there you go i thought that was like a single log rather than rather than a bundle of sticks isn't

01:23:07.740 that a fask is a bundle of sticks i thought it was the i get you now i understand i now understand

01:23:13.020 where you're going yeah jim mason it seems like something a 15 year old would think is cool

01:23:18.140 because it's targeting that age group in my honest opinion any attempt to uh an attempt to clone a

01:23:23.180 right-wing organic popularity with use perhaps but also there is i don't know from the outside looking

01:23:29.180 into something very sad about a single 33 year old man hanging around in his house that's decorated

01:23:35.740 like a child's bedroom it's it's life-size bernie sanders in the background yeah uh the engaged few

01:23:44.140 again she laughs uproariously this woman as her crotch becomes a desert yeah talk about giving a woman the

01:23:52.460 ick uh the binary surfaces samson should really share the tweet i've just posted i've just sent him

01:24:01.900 on stream uh can you get this up for us samson i'm curious now oh here we go

01:24:13.900 what i got from this segment is that harry would like a framed picture of hassan's head on a muscular

01:24:19.580 mankini wearing male portrait baby oil optional i don't know how you managed to figure that one out

01:24:25.820 binary that's some um that's some logic if ever i've seen it uh the engaged few says leftism seems

01:24:33.340 to deform these people like the dark side of the force deforms the sith i think that's a chicken and

01:24:37.980 egg question these people are they deformed and therefore gravitate towards leftism because they're

01:24:43.660 deformed in the brain as well or does as you suggest it's deformed them okay question yeah it's actually

01:24:51.260 a fair point which comes first yes and let's go on to some of the written comments on the website

01:24:57.420 then so some general ones annie moss always great to see mr h great guest and also not

01:25:02.860 ill with ellie flu thank you not yet at least yeah not yeah i'll be pissed if i get him i guess

01:25:12.060 jonesy never cared says great lineup today where do i find the collaboration videos between nate and

01:25:16.940 beau thanks oh you wanted it state of politics ladies and gents the state of politics is a joint

01:25:23.660 adventure channel um between myself and beau just very interesting conversations effectively covering

01:25:31.420 political philosophy theory history uh some modern stuff and some modern day analysis and stuff yeah

01:25:37.580 and also i'm on your stream every tuesday yes just talking about uh films and tv and culture things

01:25:42.860 as well so if you want some spicy beau takes come to uh come to my channel on tuesday night at 9 pm the

01:25:50.060 clips that i've seen you going around i can't help myself sort of can't help it sometimes

01:25:56.860 i i i i just dreaming with rage spills over i just love it that you're in the second studio

01:26:04.460 whenever you're doing it as well so it's just you typically at like midnight sat you're in your own

01:26:10.380 in the office just raging raging in the chair just some like race swapping in hollywood i'm confronted

01:26:17.740 with whatever it is it's like oh really he doesn't have the moderating force of the rest of us

01:26:27.900 i enjoy it though i enjoy it oh yeah good times obviously here it's all nearly always fairly

01:26:35.420 serious so it's nice just to sort of shoot the breeze about uh tv and games and movies and

01:26:42.460 general cultural things yeah yeah do you want to read through some of your comments or go through

01:26:48.460 them for you you go you go if you want mine arizona desert rat the kennedy assassinations were about 60

01:26:53.660 years ago how many people involved with those are still alive my guess not many and if they are alive

01:26:59.180 do they have their mantle faculties still intact do you think that could be one of the reasons that

01:27:03.660 they're actually willing to start looking into this now is that we're well past the point of any

01:27:08.220 applicable punishments well there must be very few because even if you're in your 20s or 30s at the

01:27:13.660 time you'll now be very old um so there must be very few but that was one of the things trump said

01:27:21.340 on joe rogan he said there were some people still alive why would they need protecting though if they're

01:27:27.340 guilty of something if they're guilty of something egregious like murdering a president or trying to

01:27:32.300 subvert the republic or something why they should be protected is beyond me but nonetheless

01:27:36.220 trump did say some people were still alive um but well if there are i obviously don't know if

01:27:41.420 there are or not but if there are they would now be very very old and they must have been quite

01:27:45.820 relatively young at the time like i say 60 odd years ago now over what is it 62 years ago this year

01:27:54.140 so yeah they're going to be in their 80s with the best will in the world um you know if he was a very

01:27:59.820 very very young cia officer um it could it could be about yeah i don't know and again that might just

01:28:06.940 be something where okay we can loosen up a bit on this now because the time for action is basically

01:28:12.460 gone in terms of uh punishments so next one harry and mr h reviews have a fight who wins that's the

01:28:19.340 name of the commenter i'm gonna say probably mr h he's in good shape uh the question the comment is

01:28:30.380 my theory is that jfk was friends with hillary clinton maybe that was it yeah binary surfer a

01:28:37.820 cynical man might say that they only if you only declassify things if effectively common knowledge

01:28:43.500 already this is what they an attempt to regain legitimacy looks like us elites are worried

01:28:47.980 regarding open revolt alternatively you can declassify things now only if there are things

01:28:52.700 you want the public's focus to be moved to and away from other things that you still want classified

01:28:57.340 those are all you know perfectly reasonable comment yeah yeah yeah yeah mason royce honestly though

01:29:03.020 what would the committee need to present to convince you that for instance jfc uh jfk was killed

01:29:07.420 by oswald uh if you were convinced it was a conspiracy would a government investigation proving the

01:29:12.140 exception be unfalsifiable if you were convinced it's a conspiracy would a government investigation

01:29:19.100 i think you meant the opposite exception be unfalsifiable i guess i i guess i don't know what

01:29:23.180 they're saying well i don't know yeah who knows i mean lots of people were it seems like some

01:29:28.620 people it's impossible to change their mind when i've made bits of content about jfk

01:29:32.860 sort of sort of pointing out that it it was impossible for it to be oswald alone details like

01:29:40.620 oswald couldn't have influenced the the route of the motorcade or he couldn't have influenced the

01:29:48.140 secret service he couldn't have influenced who got to sit on the warren commission whether there would

01:29:52.700 be a warren commission various things that oswald could not have orchestrated and there's still some

01:29:58.620 people out there that just still ignore all of that they'll just ignore it or they'll just call

01:30:04.060 you crazy and things so even if whatever's released in the end shows beyond any reasonable doubt or any

01:30:11.420 doubt really that it was a conspiracy i imagine there'll still be some people that will say no it

01:30:17.180 was oswald alone i think even if it if it turned around and said that it was uh it was lee harvey oswald by

01:30:24.220 himself as we were always told in the first place i think one of the reasons that people would doubt

01:30:28.940 that is that just yeah you can have a government report that says something but you need to line

01:30:34.140 it up against what's practically uh practical uh practically possible within reality you have to line

01:30:40.540 it up with the facts that we've already established and say well is this a likely or even possible series

01:30:45.580 of events and determine from there you can use your own intuition your own faculties of logic

01:30:50.780 chain and effect cause and effect and uh you're able to come to some pretty good conclusions by that

01:30:58.060 you know if they if they turn around and says that he lee harvey oswald actually leapt from the

01:31:02.700 building shot him mid-air flew back around and then got back into the building for no reason

01:31:09.260 and and you go well it's the government document that's what it says they released the files you

01:31:13.340 could say well that's not possible though is it that's ridiculous that's a stupid thing to say

01:31:17.420 there are lots of people that just won't believe anything they're told sort of they they don't

01:31:22.620 believe there are people that don't believe that nasa is essentially that we've ever gone into low

01:31:28.700 earth orbit and things they're people that don't believe that the geological record is real they're

01:31:33.740 people that don't believe the earth is a sphere right so there are some people that whatever they're

01:31:38.700 shown won't believe it there are lots of people like that and we probably always will be i mean

01:31:45.260 and i think the last thing i'll end this on is that we've got one more rumble rant and then we're

01:31:48.700 out of time and that's from okay saying can you please get ryan dawson on your podcast with your

01:31:54.780 assassination a lot of these fingerprints on it too um that was a somewhat poorly worded uh one but i

01:32:02.620 i'm aware of ryan dawson i don't really thanks for the ten dollars anyway though yeah thanks

01:32:06.620 yeah ryan dawson do i know him it rings a bell he does a substat called the anti-neocon report i

01:32:12.140 think i'm aware of him yeah i'll talk to him but uh yeah it might be might be worth getting in touch

01:32:16.700 with him if he's uh up to date on a lot of the details of the assassination and the conspiracy and

01:32:21.340 what information is out there anyway uh that's all we've got time for today so thank you very very

01:32:26.460 much for tuning in we'll be back again tomorrow and uh make sure to check out nate's channel and the

01:32:32.220 state of politics and everything else that beau and nate do together it's great work so take care

01:32:36.620 goodbye

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - February 20, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1105

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