The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1110

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00:01:09.300 Oh, hello there. I didn't see you there.

00:01:17.640 I was just enjoying Islander Magazine, you see.

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00:01:30.340 But anyway, I am joined by Bo and Harry today.

00:01:33.680 Hello.

00:01:34.160 And other than sitting here reading, we're going to be talking about...

00:01:37.900 We would like to just sit here and read for an hour and a half for you instead.

00:01:41.800 Sort of ASMR podcast.

00:01:43.780 But it's just the sound of pages shuffling along.

00:01:46.760 But instead, we have to do our jobs.

00:01:49.400 Well, Harry is talking about living in the shadow of the post-war consensus.

00:01:54.600 Constantly.

00:01:55.380 Every day.

00:01:56.020 I see him everywhere, except it's just a big shadow of Hitler.

00:01:59.540 That's how the British and...

00:02:01.060 That's being cut out of context.

00:02:02.680 That's how all of the establishment in all of the West treats everything.

00:02:06.720 Everything is just Hitler is waiting to jump out from behind a corner,

00:02:10.980 like the monster in Mulholland Drive.

00:02:14.200 Every time.

00:02:15.680 I'm going to be talking about South Africa.

00:02:18.140 Bo's going to be talking about Salman Rushdie.

00:02:21.340 Well, take it away, Harry.

00:02:23.720 Is that it?

00:02:24.360 That's it.

00:02:24.880 That's it.

00:02:25.340 That's it.

00:02:25.980 All right.

00:02:26.340 Okay, that's it.

00:02:27.180 That's it.

00:02:27.660 Bro, it's over.

00:02:29.320 We're over.

00:02:30.500 It's so over.

00:02:31.720 We're done.

00:02:32.560 No.

00:02:33.340 We're back.

00:02:34.600 Back to 1938.

00:02:36.120 Again.

00:02:36.780 And again.

00:02:37.800 And again.

00:02:38.600 Forever.

00:02:39.560 And ever and ever.

00:02:40.920 Until we're all dead, in which point our grandchildren, their grandchildren, and their grandchildren

00:02:46.740 will all be living in 1938 forever again.

00:02:51.280 And again.

00:02:52.060 It's like the worst kind of Groundhog Day.

00:02:53.280 Time is a flat circle, Josh.

00:02:56.500 Was that neat?

00:02:57.080 And in that circle is a tiny little swastika that is always going to try and leap out unless

00:03:02.980 you, the daring Churchill, decide to swat away the Neville Chamberlains of the world, at

00:03:08.600 which point you'll be able to slam back down that swastika.

00:03:12.560 And I don't know where this analogy is going anymore, gentlemen.

00:03:17.360 Basically, I hate the fact that everything is World War II constantly all of the time.

00:03:22.180 We are facing new Hitlers every single day.

00:03:24.600 We have got new Churchills or new wannabe Churchills every single day.

00:03:28.180 And I'm bored of this frame of reference because it has been used endlessly to just

00:03:32.800 try to propagandize people into having endless wars for pointless causes.

00:03:37.620 And lost causes in the case of the one that we're talking about today, that being Ukraine.

00:03:42.120 Everyone's Hitler.

00:03:43.040 Putin's Hitler.

00:03:44.420 Nigel is Hitler.

00:03:46.240 Hugh Fernley-Whittenstall's Hitler.

00:03:48.500 Aisley-Harriet's Hitler.

00:03:49.780 Alice Weedle in the AFD.

00:03:51.880 She's Hitler now.

00:03:53.100 Obviously Trump is.

00:03:54.640 Famously Hitler was a lesbian Zionist.

00:03:57.140 Sure.

00:03:57.380 In these people's frame of mind, it seems.

00:04:02.020 But I tell you what isn't a bad thing that I'm annoyed about.

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00:04:47.800 Anyway, on to the news that I was talking about.

00:04:50.520 So let's just go through some of the updates that have been going on with Ukraine, Russia at the moment.

00:04:55.800 And there is a lot of negotiations going on.

00:04:59.880 I believe that Keir Starmer, if he hasn't already, will be meeting up with Trump today.

00:05:05.440 And that is what some of the negotiations are going to be based around.

00:05:08.800 And where one of the main articles that I'm going to be looking at is focused on as well.

00:05:12.880 Because our old pal William Hague, everybody's favorite Tory, has some encouraging words of advice for Keir Starmer on how he's going to pull Trump away from the brink of peace and get him back onto the war path.

00:05:28.080 That makes peace sound bad.

00:05:30.020 I didn't realize peace was scary, Harry.

00:05:31.720 The British and Western establishment, when it comes to Russia in particular, despise peace.

00:05:37.780 They hate peace.

00:05:38.820 They don't like peace.

00:05:39.880 They want you and your family to go and die for the sake of no peace.

00:05:43.900 So just to get that clear, peace is bad, but war is good.

00:05:47.120 Yes.

00:05:47.880 All number 10 is saying is give war a chance.

00:05:51.400 Yeah.

00:05:53.020 It's a beautiful message.

00:05:54.500 It's a beautiful message.

00:05:56.140 Anti-John Lennon here.

00:05:57.500 Really.

00:05:57.740 So obviously when they meet up today, it's going to be the number one item is Ukraine.

00:06:03.280 And there's been some statements made about it, which is that the annexed Ukrainian territory, which I believe is about 15% of Ukraine's total landmass, which has been annexed by Russia, is completely non-negotiable.

00:06:15.820 They've taken about five Ukrainian regions and they're saying, well, we're not giving them back.

00:06:22.460 That's not how negotiations work.

00:06:24.300 And I imagine that all of this is posturing.

00:06:27.080 Yes.

00:06:27.360 And when eventually Ukraine inevitably surrenders some territory to Russia, they're going to be like, well, I said that they shouldn't surrender anything.

00:06:35.640 So it's not my fault.

00:06:36.600 I think that that's part of it because realistically, they're not actually thinking that that's a feasible outcome for Russia, are they?

00:06:45.740 Potentially, but still, at the same time, yeah, Russia is one.

00:06:51.500 I don't know if you could make any kind of argument to Ukraine being able to make any kind of credible comeback in the conflict at the moment without actively involving other European nations on the ground.

00:07:05.260 I mean, Ukraine has not been fully invaded.

00:07:12.260 I don't know if you could make any kind of thing.

00:07:13.260 I think politically is a bit difficult because I've heard Zelensky say, and I don't think he's lying, that he's not allowed.

00:07:22.540 Like, he's constitutionally not allowed to accept that loss of land.

00:07:27.360 So whether Ukraine will have to change government or they'll have to change something in the letter of the law of their constitution or something,

00:07:35.700 because if the Kremlin just simply won't budge, which they won't, right, they just simply won't.

00:07:41.620 So that's their sort of immovable object.

00:07:46.140 Then, and Ukraine's got something similar, politically speaking, then someone somewhere along the line has got to give,

00:07:53.340 and it will almost certainly have to be the Ukrainian side of the ledger.

00:07:57.240 But if by law, the Ukrainian president, whoever that might be, or their government is not allowed to do it,

00:08:03.540 then there'll have to be some sort of workaround.

00:08:06.700 I mean, I'm kind of stating the obvious there, but how it will actually play out, how they'll do it, I don't really know.

00:08:13.760 I think what's going to happen is Zelensky's going to step down, and there's going to be some sort of election about them.

00:08:20.760 There might be a ceasefire.

00:08:22.320 Zelensky steps down.

00:08:23.640 They elect someone else that then has some sort of backing to negotiate a peace.

00:08:31.600 Right.

00:08:31.660 I would guess that that would be the way it would go.

00:08:35.120 They just might have to amend their actual constitution, as I understand it.

00:08:40.120 And it might just have to bypass a law.

00:08:42.080 Yeah, yeah.

00:08:43.440 I mean, look at the US, it happens all the time.

00:08:46.020 Real political, just reality, has to take precedent over any bit of paper, doesn't it?

00:08:51.300 Yeah, and Josh is right.

00:08:53.260 You can always find a friendly judge to say, I guess it's legal.

00:08:58.320 Right, yeah.

00:08:58.960 Before the war, everyone was talking about how corrupt Ukraine was.

00:09:02.680 I'm sure if enough people want something done and there's enough money changing hands, anything is possible.

00:09:08.820 Yeah, and this is all on the US side as well, because they're brokering a mineral deal with Ukraine at the moment as well.

00:09:16.280 And Boris Johnson's all in on that.

00:09:18.160 Boris Johnson, you know, one of the men who was one of the architects of keeping the conflict going to the point where it's got right now.

00:09:23.540 Now that Ukraine is going to have to potentially, as well as giving up a load of its own territory, going to have to give up the rights to the minerals that are on its land.

00:09:33.160 Boris Johnson's like, two thumbs up, asset strip that place for all it's worth.

00:09:38.240 Thank you, Boris.

00:09:39.380 What a service you did to the Ukrainian people.

00:09:42.040 You're such a good man.

00:09:43.440 Churchill reincarnated.

00:09:45.140 And the rest of the European establishment don't like to be kept out of this.

00:09:51.260 They don't like that they are not getting much of a place on the table.

00:09:54.600 That's why Keir Starmer's going to meet with Trump today.

00:09:56.920 And that's why a lot of the EU Council, the President Antonio Costa, said on Thursday that he'd invited Zelensky to a special summit of EU leaders on March the 6th to discuss future support to Ukraine.

00:10:09.720 The EU and its member states are ready to take more responsibility for Europe's security.

00:10:14.440 We should therefore be prepared for a possible European contribution to the security guarantees that will be necessary to ensure a lasting peace in Ukraine.

00:10:21.820 At the same time, Finland has agreed that they are going to pledge 660 million euros in military equipment to Ukraine.

00:10:30.780 And, of course, as well, Starmer is going to host Zelensky and the other European leaders at a London summit because Zelensky is going to meet with Keir Starmer on Sunday.

00:10:42.440 So, within Europe, there's a lot of planning going around because I've mentioned it many times before on this.

00:10:47.500 It seems that the US is less interested in keeping this conflict going on now.

00:10:53.040 They've had the regime change into Donald Trump.

00:10:55.660 He didn't want this sort of conflict going on in the first place.

00:10:58.240 Very famously, he was saying that if he'd been president back in 2022 when this conflict started, it never would have begun in the first place.

00:11:04.580 So, he's not interested in continuing to sink resources into it.

00:11:08.080 And, in fact, he seems to be very interested in getting as many resources out of it as possible.

00:11:13.840 Now, the Ukraine-US minerals deal is being brokered at the moment.

00:11:19.220 I don't know if it's exactly been signed yet, but there is some information that we know that is available to us.

00:11:25.400 So, he's going to meet with Trump on Friday, Zelensky is, to sign an agreement that will give the US access to its deposits of rare-earth minerals.

00:11:34.480 Zelensky said that he hoped the preliminary agreement with the US will lead to further deals, but has confirmed no American security guarantees that have been agreed to yet.

00:11:42.700 So, if there are security guarantees, it does look like they might have to come from Europe itself in a peace transition period.

00:11:50.420 Trump said that a deal would help American taxpayers get their money back for aid sent to Ukraine throughout the war, but said the responsibility of Kiev security should fall on Europe.

00:11:59.360 Because Donald Trump has said, what, that they sent off $500 billion worth of aid to Ukraine, which I don't know how accurate that is.

00:12:07.180 It's a very, very contested number, but he's trying to get everything that he can.

00:12:10.920 Yeah, I think he's got his businessman's cap on, hasn't he?

00:12:14.000 He's thinking about value for money for a business deal.

00:12:16.960 That seems to be the terms in which he's sort of framing it in.

00:12:19.800 Like, we've given you some money, we want something in return.

00:12:22.660 And, I mean, it sounds like they're probably going to get a pretty good deal out of it,

00:12:27.040 that they get minerals that they don't have to pay to defend,

00:12:30.100 because it's going to be European militaries that are protecting Ukraine once there is peace brokered.

00:12:35.780 Yeah.

00:12:36.080 And what I gather from what's being discussed, at least.

00:12:38.340 And here's a nice handy-dandy map where all of this red part are the territory that has been annexed by Russia thus far,

00:12:44.640 and you get some nice views of where all of these mineral deposits are across the rest of the country as well.

00:12:50.940 So, obviously, Russia has access to quite a bit of it themselves,

00:12:53.680 but there's still plenty for the U.S. to be able, well, for Ukraine to be able to deal with for the U.S. as well.

00:12:58.340 The majority of them there, haven't they?

00:12:59.720 Yeah, they absolutely do.

00:13:00.920 Also, as part of these terms, the Prime Minister of Ukraine, Denis Shmai,

00:13:08.280 Shmail? Shmal, said that they've finalized a version of the agreement where it envisages an investment fund

00:13:15.480 that will be set up for Ukraine's reconstruction.

00:13:17.880 So this sounds almost like Marshall Plan-esque.

00:13:20.620 The New York Times reported as well that the U.S. on a draft document would own the maximum amount

00:13:38.800 of the fund allowed under U.S. law, but not necessarily all of it.

00:13:43.080 So this money, whether it's in a joint fund or not, sounds like majority owned by U.S.

00:13:48.420 So the U.S. gets to keep a massive level of interest, investment, and influence in Ukraine following this.

00:13:56.640 So Ukraine, if it was under the U.S.'s thumb before, still very, very, even more so.

00:14:01.500 Even more so, right now.

00:14:03.420 Another vassal state to add to many.

00:14:07.020 And a source in the Ukraine's government told the BBC that the provisions of the deal are much better for Ukraine now,

00:14:12.820 because, of course, I think at first Donald Trump was just like, give us $500 billion.

00:14:18.040 So he played hardball on him straight away.

00:14:22.620 I mean, that was the money that they supposedly gave them,

00:14:24.840 so it's not actually that unreasonable to say, well, give us some money back,

00:14:28.400 but then where are they going to get it from?

00:14:29.880 Yeah, exactly.

00:14:32.500 Half of it never turned up in the first place, right?

00:14:34.740 That's true, yeah.

00:14:35.580 Yes, there's been a lot of tricky accounting for where a lot of that money went,

00:14:41.280 and I'm sure that a lot of yacht businesses and other style ventures have made a pretty penny.

00:14:48.300 Lots of chateaus in France, perhaps.

00:14:50.340 Maybe, maybe.

00:14:51.700 But that's the American side of it.

00:14:53.780 On the British and European side, we're still going a little bit crazy about this whole thing,

00:15:00.480 with an agitprop like this sort of thing that's been coming out in the Times,

00:15:05.480 where they've said, Trump can't eat here.

00:15:08.140 Where they've got a, I'm sure, a very, very pleasant Ukrainian woman,

00:15:11.960 and her very, very pleasant Ukrainian restaurant,

00:15:14.700 saying, like, why does this need to be a story?

00:15:18.460 Why does this need to be in the Times?

00:15:20.460 Why does this need to, why does anybody need to know this?

00:15:23.040 Oh, it's because the British establishment are still wanting to go full bore on this,

00:15:28.460 because they want to be able to say, they want to convince Trump that,

00:15:31.900 no, no, no, no, we can take the 15%, we can take that territory back from Russia,

00:15:36.640 if you just keep pumping money into it, because we need defence guarantees.

00:15:41.820 And as if Trump wants to eat in this rinky-dink, tin pot, end-of-the-peer restaurant,

00:15:46.280 it might be lovely, I've got no idea.

00:15:47.700 But, one, as if he wants to, and two, if he insists on it,

00:15:51.420 like, she's going to stand up to the Secret Service.

00:15:54.580 Like, they come in mob-handed, two dozen Secret Service guys a week ahead of the time,

00:15:58.480 saying, the President is eating here.

00:16:00.080 She's going to be like, no, don't make me, don't make me go ballistic on you.

00:16:05.380 She'll hold her hand out like the rock, and then she'll just go,

00:16:08.820 just bring it, just bring it, and then she'll hit him with the rock bottom,

00:16:13.120 and it'll be amazing.

00:16:14.300 Donald Trump won't know what hits him, and then she'll give him a stunner for good measure.

00:16:18.300 No, that's not what's going to happen.

00:16:20.120 What's going to happen is that this doesn't matter at all.

00:16:22.960 I don't actually have any problem with normal Ukrainian people being upset

00:16:27.160 that the war has gone so terribly.

00:16:28.580 In all honesty, yeah.

00:16:29.560 I've got sympathy, I feel sorry for...

00:16:31.460 And then, of course, you see that, well, it seems like US is trying to expand its influence

00:16:35.360 even more in Ukraine now, and trying to, in a certain way, asset strip the place.

00:16:41.060 I have seen opinion polls of Ukrainians, and they do support ending the war.

00:16:45.020 So there's, and it's understandable, right?

00:16:47.700 Like, I imagine that every family has lost someone, you know,

00:16:52.420 a male in their family from this conflict, because the human cost of it is catastrophic.

00:16:58.220 Of course.

00:16:58.420 And so, at this point, I think they're just glad to see the end of it.

00:17:03.040 On my part, I've been vocal since the beginning, or since 2022,

00:17:06.380 that I'm pretty firmly anti the Zelensky government.

00:17:09.860 But I've got loads of sympathy for you, the average Ukrainian person.

00:17:13.700 Of course, yeah.

00:17:14.620 I think it would be psychopathic to not have sympathy for them.

00:17:17.040 Right, yeah.

00:17:17.780 Yeah, yeah.

00:17:18.480 The average Ukrainian patriot that just doesn't want their country being invaded.

00:17:22.500 Of course, I've got sympathy for them.

00:17:23.700 But it's just, just the reality of the Russian army.

00:17:30.280 You have to take stock and say, unless you are willing to escalate the conflict to, who knows?

00:17:37.040 You had two or three summers to push them out of that bit of land.

00:17:41.920 And you've got billions of dollars of military aid to do it, and you failed.

00:17:46.720 I'm sorry, it's like playing a sports game.

00:17:49.360 You've got the 90 minutes, or whatever it is, to win or lose, and the final whistle has come, and you lost.

00:17:56.600 That's it.

00:17:57.160 That's the end of the game, I'm afraid.

00:17:59.300 And it's sad.

00:17:59.880 It's really bitter and sad that you lost, but you lost.

00:18:03.000 Yeah.

00:18:03.840 But some people want it to keep going.

00:18:06.520 They don't want to accept that it's lost.

00:18:08.180 And they want to, as William Hague does, evoke Churchill to woo Trump.

00:18:13.740 Oh, everyone's Churchill.

00:18:15.140 Well, everybody who's pro-war.

00:18:16.680 He's firmly witting still, Churchill.

00:18:18.040 Churchill, as long as you are in favour of a war somewhere, anywhere, that makes you a freedom fighter, that makes you Winston Churchill, greatest Britain to ever live.

00:18:28.840 If you say, maybe this war is lost and we need to wind this up, then you're a Neville Chamberlain, which is just a cynic.

00:18:35.900 Everyone's Neville Chamberlain.

00:18:37.240 For a coward.

00:18:38.000 So empire's back on the menu then?

00:18:39.620 Is that alright?

00:18:40.180 We're bringing back the British Empire?

00:18:41.640 I don't think he means that part of Churchill.

00:18:44.240 I don't think he means that Churchill.

00:18:45.820 Not the good parts of Churchill.

00:18:48.300 You're right.

00:18:48.620 It is pathetic and sad and annoying, the endless parallels with Hitler, Chamberlain and Churchill.

00:18:55.460 You remember when Zelensky went over to Congress, like, what, a couple of years ago now?

00:18:59.600 And Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer and a number of others, literally and explicitly a number of times said, he is the Churchill of our age.

00:19:07.620 Yeah.

00:19:08.240 Get some new material.

00:19:09.540 Yeah, yeah.

00:19:09.920 There have been wars since then that we don't evoke.

00:19:14.400 I mean, I don't know why you'd want to evoke the Vietnam War in such a way, for instance.

00:19:19.240 But I think it's the fact that it's been presented as the good war means that it can always be used as, like, basically a mind virus to get people to think, well, this will be my good war.

00:19:28.840 This will be my good war.

00:19:29.640 You can't do that with Vietnam.

00:19:32.240 You can't do that with Korea.

00:19:34.740 You can't do that with Afghanistan.

00:19:36.340 Because they are all examples of war being bloody and hopeless and, in many cases, ultimately pointless, especially when America is the one getting involved in these foreign conflicts.

00:19:48.600 But they can always just point to World War II and see, that was the good one.

00:19:52.760 That was the good one.

00:19:54.000 We did the good things in that one, so we'll do the good things this time and it won't end up like all the other disasters.

00:19:59.900 We definitely haven't pushed Ukraine into escalating and continuing a war that could have wound up a few months into the initial conflict, losing them thousands and thousands of men, making the women flee as refugees to foreign countries across Europe, and now are asset-stripping the place.

00:20:18.440 Old town shelled into oblivion.

00:20:20.100 I would argue that all of Europe lost in World War II, right?

00:20:23.780 You know, every country.

00:20:25.500 And if they're drawing parallels to World War II, well, hasn't all of Europe lost here as well?

00:20:32.280 Because we've pumped lots of resources into a country.

00:20:35.240 I understand that there's talk of it potentially coming back to us eventually, in that they were saying that there were loans.

00:20:41.740 I think there's some discussion whether the money that was given by the US and Europe counted as a grant or a loan.

00:20:49.320 So there's some haggling being done over how much actually needs to be paid back in many cases.

00:20:54.780 But at the minute, it seems like all of Europe is out of pocket and the US is getting something in return, whereas we're, again, on the hook for all of this stuff, it seems like.

00:21:08.120 We want some of that sweet titanium.

00:21:10.960 We want some of those sweet, rarer minerals.

00:21:12.480 Give us your minerals, Ukraine.

00:21:13.760 Give us your minerals.

00:21:14.600 Zolensky is...

00:21:15.240 What's going to happen?

00:21:16.360 Good God.

00:21:16.880 Zolensky is like DM and Putin is like Ho Chi Minh.

00:21:22.780 No, wait.

00:21:24.120 No, that doesn't work.

00:21:25.520 Oh, wait.

00:21:25.900 Yeah, yeah.

00:21:26.200 You can't really do that one, can you?

00:21:28.900 Who's...

00:21:29.340 Wait, who's the Saddam Hussein in this situation?

00:21:31.860 Saddam's also a baddie.

00:21:33.040 Who's George W?

00:21:35.640 George W is Zelensky and Saddam is Putin, obviously.

00:21:39.460 Oh, okay.

00:21:39.900 Obviously.

00:21:40.380 That makes sense.

00:21:41.340 And that was a good war.

00:21:42.900 Apparently.

00:21:43.580 Apparently so.

00:21:44.620 Apparently.

00:21:45.200 Ended very, very well for everyone involved.

00:21:47.920 And nobody was a war criminal.

00:21:50.140 Fantastic how that was.

00:21:51.180 I just love that he's trying to evoke Churchill as well.

00:21:54.500 Because, right, can't Trump just turn around and say, hey, didn't you just have his portraits

00:21:59.720 removed from Parliament?

00:22:01.380 So the actual messaging that's going on here is completely contradictory and doesn't seem

00:22:06.660 to have any internal consistency.

00:22:08.840 Well, the portrait of Wellington was replaced by Yvette Cooper.

00:22:12.260 So she's really...

00:22:13.800 With her cult portrait, yeah.

00:22:15.420 She's really the real Churchill, isn't she?

00:22:17.880 I mean, aren't we all?

00:22:19.100 Maybe the Churchill was within us all along as soon as I decided to start a war.

00:22:24.240 Yeah, when I open a bottle of whiskey, maybe.

00:22:26.180 And the interesting thing is that a few months back, following the Marta Maid controversy,

00:22:31.120 we actually had a discussion on this subject, a roundtable, where we had the Churchill question.

00:22:36.920 And I thought it was a really interesting and productive conversation.

00:22:39.880 And the point that I made that I think still stands and is being shown to be correct over

00:22:44.100 and over again is no matter the true historical context of it, the narrative that has been

00:22:49.160 built up is always used to justify these wars.

00:22:53.620 And Stelios mentioned at the time, and this was a fair point, that in terms of realpolitik,

00:22:59.240 if they want the wars, they'll have the wars.

00:23:01.160 They'll come up with a different narrative.

00:23:03.020 And that's true to an extent, yes.

00:23:05.520 But I do also think that on a leader like Boris Johnson and in the minds of these leaders,

00:23:12.560 it works as a motivator for themselves because they can see themselves as shrouding in that

00:23:17.980 glory that's been put on to Winston Churchill.

00:23:20.160 They're appealing to a mythology of modern Britain, aren't they?

00:23:23.600 That's right.

00:23:24.240 And it also is so all-encompassing in Britain that it trickles out to other countries as

00:23:31.620 well.

00:23:31.860 You're saying about how Nancy Pelosi and the likes were referring to him as a, Zelensky

00:23:37.200 as a Churchillian figure.

00:23:38.700 And I think that because it's been so mythologized and they've painted Churchill as this flawless,

00:23:45.740 heroic figure who stood up to the pesky Germans, then it's painting yourself in a veneer that

00:23:55.140 is unearned, I think, as well.

00:23:56.660 Well, they both rejected peace overtures a number of times, so there is that parallel.

00:24:02.400 You could make a kind of joke that if Keir Starmer did pointlessly escalate a war into

00:24:06.740 an enormous continental conflict in Europe, that would be the most Churchillian thing of

00:24:10.580 him to do.

00:24:11.360 But I wouldn't make that joke.

00:24:13.200 I wouldn't make that joke.

00:24:14.220 I wouldn't say such a thing, because such a thing would be anti-patriotic of me.

00:24:18.680 Anyway, it's that the spectre of the 1930s German government looms over not just wars, but

00:24:28.320 it looms over all politics and is a driving motivator for why we live in the world what we

00:24:34.900 do, it's called the post-war consensus, and the absolutely hysterical tone that is drawn

00:24:40.520 up amazes me.

00:24:42.720 Sometimes you think that you've seen it all, and then you see an article in the Telegraph

00:24:47.560 like this, talking about the recent German elections from over the weekend, saying to

00:24:52.820 be optimistic about Mertz, but the spectre of the 1930s remains.

00:24:57.160 Now, I'll just read a few excerpts from this, and tell me if this sounds like a reasonable

00:25:02.560 interpretation of a country which has been absolutely beset and humiliated by mass migration,

00:25:09.720 all of the foreigners coming in, abusing their people, causing all sorts of trouble.

00:25:14.540 And just multiculturalism in general for decade upon decade.

00:25:17.240 In general, a country like that may be sliding towards a more anti-immigrant party who has

00:25:23.460 managed to get, what was it, 20% in the votes recently?

00:25:26.720 Yeah, that was it.

00:25:27.240 Yeah.

00:25:28.480 So, here you go.

00:25:29.460 Germany cannot face the risk of being led by charlatans who would betray civilisation

00:25:33.820 to its enemies.

00:25:35.020 Great start.

00:25:36.020 When Germany surrendered unconditionally in 1945, great start to the article there, okay?

00:25:42.640 Almost everyone assumed that the Nazis would be a threat for many years to come.

00:25:46.620 Even in 1949, the first Secretary General of NATO, Lord Ismay, summed up its purpose as

00:25:52.060 to keep the Soviet Union out, the Americans in, and the Germans down.

00:25:56.140 But the Nazi revival never happened.

00:25:58.640 For 75 years, the Federal Republic was conspicuous as Europe's most successful economy and an

00:26:03.760 exemplary civil society, giving the lie to Spenglerian prophecies of doom.

00:26:09.340 Until now.

00:26:11.620 Until now.

00:26:12.760 Spengler re-emerged.

00:26:14.900 Somehow, Spengler returned.

00:26:16.980 We're so back.

00:26:20.380 Sunday's election saw the first serious threat to German democracy emerge since the defeat

00:26:25.060 of the Third Reich.

00:26:26.820 That threat goes by the name of Alternative for Germany.

00:26:31.180 Dun-dun-dun.

00:26:32.540 Dun-dun-dun.

00:26:33.660 Since the invasion of Ukraine three years ago, the AfD have been the dominant party in the

00:26:37.960 former East Germany, but now they are the most popular choice for younger voters right

00:26:41.300 across the country.

00:26:41.920 For now, the oldies have saved German democracy.

00:26:46.940 Still, if this...

00:26:47.860 You know, they've sold out their own children, their grandchildren, their safety and well-being,

00:26:52.080 but no, they've saved an abstract concept of democracy.

00:26:55.580 Thank God.

00:26:56.420 Guaranteeing many more rapes.

00:26:58.620 Yeah.

00:26:58.980 Brilliant.

00:26:59.820 This is a party that tells Germans that they have been enslaved since 1945 by a guilt cult

00:27:05.420 imposed by the Allies.

00:27:06.660 Quite literally true.

00:27:07.540 Yeah.

00:27:07.940 That's a statement of fact.

00:27:08.980 That was what de-Nazification was.

00:27:10.640 They quibble over how many of the SS should be seen as war criminals, or whether the Holocaust

00:27:15.920 was just a speck of bird-ess on their nation's otherwise spotless history.

00:27:20.460 The AfD is so openly pro-Russian, anti-Ukrainian, and authoritarian that even, even Marine Le Pen

00:27:26.860 and Georgia Maloney will have nothing to do with them.

00:27:29.860 The AfD's leader, Alice Weedle, is not just a Lenny Reifenstahl fantasy version of Nigel

00:27:36.520 Frost.

00:27:36.720 So there they are, the second coming of Hitler, Alice Weedle's going to grow herself a little

00:27:41.220 moustache.

00:27:41.780 It'll be incredible.

00:27:42.720 It'll be, no one will ever have seen anything like it.

00:27:44.920 It'll be terrific.

00:27:45.420 And they're going to, I assume, do bad things.

00:27:50.880 Do very bad things.

00:27:51.940 Annex Austria.

00:27:53.220 Annex Austria.

00:27:54.320 The Statenland.

00:27:55.000 The Rhineland.

00:27:55.800 Well, can you guess what the forward thinks that they're going to do?

00:27:59.320 Invade Poland?

00:28:00.880 Oh, blimey.

00:28:01.740 Of all of the publications out there, the insane socialist communist daily forward is

00:28:09.940 one of my favourites because they are absolutely bonkers.

00:28:14.660 They are absolutely mad and publish some really ridiculous...

00:28:18.120 Alice Weedle, who is a Zionist and has said explicitly in her interview recently with Elon

00:28:23.260 Musk that she is all in on support for Israel, apparently...

00:28:28.600 That's the head of AFD.

00:28:29.840 That's the head of the AFD, has apparently going to cause the second coming of Hitler.

00:28:36.960 It's always those who you least expect.

00:28:38.620 I know, I know.

00:28:39.620 I know, it's absolutely ridiculous, but I would read a bit of this, but I don't want

00:28:47.420 to get in trouble.

00:28:48.360 So, I hate the framing of the Second World War and I would like to ask our leaders very

00:28:54.640 politely, please, please, please, can we move out of 1938 and into a different era?

00:29:01.760 That would be very nice.

00:29:02.700 Thank you very much.

00:29:04.280 Got a bunch of rumble rants there.

00:29:07.200 Hang on, I'm trying to get the mouse.

00:29:08.360 I can't see the damn thing.

00:29:10.120 You need to read them anyway, so...

00:29:11.700 I can see them just fine, thank you.

00:29:14.940 All right, so, Glee777, US, I consent.

00:29:18.020 Russia, I consent.

00:29:19.080 European Union, isn't there someone you forgot to ask?

00:29:23.060 The European Union does hide under people's beds.

00:29:26.760 Telling them off for posting naughty tweets.

00:29:29.640 Ryan Hinnigan, I did not care for the Ukraine war, it assists upon itself.

00:29:36.220 That's actually quite true.

00:29:37.880 It does, yeah.

00:29:39.080 Yeah, it really does.

00:29:40.540 The engaged few.

00:29:41.700 I'm having trouble envisioning Churchill dancing in high heels, snorting fat rails of

00:29:46.180 booger sugar, or playing piano with his dong.

00:29:49.720 You know, I've never seen any of those sitcoms that Zelensky starred in before he was president.

00:29:55.280 So, with that glowing advertisement, I still do not intend to.

00:30:00.420 I have never heard booger sugar before.

00:30:03.660 Really?

00:30:03.960 That's a euphemism.

00:30:04.800 That's a good one.

00:30:05.200 Yeah, it's a good one.

00:30:05.720 I like it.

00:30:06.220 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:30:07.100 You like booger sugar, do you?

00:30:08.780 Bolivian marching powder.

00:30:09.840 I've heard loads and loads of euphemisms from it, but never that one.

00:30:13.140 That's new to me.

00:30:13.900 Well, you can use that next time.

00:30:15.500 Yeah, all right.

00:30:17.900 I didn't mean to utter anything there, yeah?

00:30:21.040 Yeah, I'm not, I don't...

00:30:22.840 He's a good boy.

00:30:23.700 Yeah.

00:30:24.040 We're all good boys.

00:30:25.220 Bald Eagle, 1787.

00:30:25.840 1787, but if the US leaves the Ukraine war, how will the EU tyrants launder money in large amounts

00:30:30.940 and line the pockets of their military industrial complex donors?

00:30:34.280 They'll have to find a new patsy state.

00:30:36.540 And Chris K112, isn't Ukraine sovereign?

00:30:39.840 If it wants to keep fighting, let it buy itself without support.

00:30:42.300 I don't like Western countries forcing peace deals in wars that aren't there.

00:30:46.320 I suppose that's fair as well, but given just how entirely reliant on the Western powers that they've been

00:30:51.420 through the entire thing, if they did decide, they would fold immediately.

00:30:56.740 Like, you think that Russia wants to take all of Ukraine?

00:31:00.440 Well, if they did and they tried to do that, then yeah, they would.

00:31:04.340 If it was a straight-up fight between Ukraine backed up with no help from anyone

00:31:09.720 versus Russia with no help from anyone, which is basically...

00:31:13.440 It would be no contest.

00:31:15.480 When they first went into Crimea in, what, 2014, the little green men,

00:31:20.100 they just walked in.

00:31:21.460 It was like...

00:31:22.720 It wasn't built about yet.

00:31:24.800 Yeah, the Ukraine...

00:31:25.800 Anyway, so yeah.

00:31:26.820 We are being tardy, as usual.

00:31:30.600 The podcast did start a few minutes late, Josh.

00:31:33.240 That's true.

00:31:34.300 We're not going to shortchange you, dear audience.

00:31:36.140 Don't worry.

00:31:36.900 But anyway, I'm going to be talking about South Africa,

00:31:39.720 because obviously it's been in the news a lot,

00:31:41.520 and America has taken an unprecedented position after Donald Trump.

00:31:45.640 It's basically said that they're going to stop funding

00:31:47.820 and start looking at interfering with the South African government.

00:31:52.720 The ANC is in a coalition government currently.

00:31:55.660 And it all basically started with land seizures.

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00:32:52.740 Anyway.

00:32:54.540 So it all started with this.

00:32:56.380 It was Cyril Ramaphosa signing an expropriation bill into law,

00:33:01.340 which said that the government can basically expropriate land from anyone

00:33:05.940 with no compensation for pretty much any reason.

00:33:09.240 And understandably, landowners in South Africa were upset about this

00:33:12.760 because they're rather attached to keeping their own private property, funnily enough.

00:33:17.680 And it's just seen as a cynical way to take land off of the white farmers,

00:33:22.740 which is clearly the case, isn't it?

00:33:25.460 Because it's not exactly like a new tactic in that part of the world, is it?

00:33:30.340 It happened in Zimbabwe, or Rhodesia, as I call it.

00:33:34.040 And it's happened to some extent in South Africa already.

00:33:38.380 And what happened is Trump accused South Africa of massive human rights violations,

00:33:43.860 which is true.

00:33:45.320 You have a right to own your own property, your own private property.

00:33:48.700 And just because it's politically expedient to the ANC who were trailing in the polls,

00:33:53.120 I think they got less than 50% in the latest election for the first time since 1994 and the end of apartheid.

00:34:00.340 And so they're worried.

00:34:01.180 And so what they were doing was trying to get win-up support, as far as I'm aware,

00:34:05.580 by saying that they're going to do this.

00:34:07.580 But it's not going to end well for them.

00:34:09.660 And in fact, after Trump said this, and after he suspended aid,

00:34:14.500 there was lots of support from white South Africans, as you can imagine,

00:34:17.780 because they're obviously being targeted for this.

00:34:21.140 And they agree that they are victims of anti-white racism, which is undeniable.

00:34:26.580 It's written into the law.

00:34:28.540 And that's literally the point of the law.

00:34:30.580 It is, yeah.

00:34:31.340 You can't argue against it.

00:34:32.680 Not to mention the endless evidence of the, quote-unquote, farm murders.

00:34:36.760 Of course, yeah.

00:34:37.640 It's just irrefutable, yeah.

00:34:39.180 It's just, as far as I'm concerned, some sort of low-burn genocide.

00:34:43.140 Yeah.

00:34:44.100 Well, the ANC is not doing nearly enough about it to prevent it.

00:34:46.640 In fact, they're enabling it, aren't they?

00:34:48.200 It's a state-sanctioned pogrom, really.

00:34:51.260 So I always like bringing this one up.

00:34:53.380 It's the number of racialized laws in South Africa.

00:34:56.500 And you can see a graph here.

00:34:58.100 And there's a big dip that bottoms out in 1994.

00:35:02.080 And then it goes up again.

00:35:04.120 So you had racial laws under apartheid.

00:35:07.080 It dropped down again.

00:35:08.380 And then it goes back up and exceeds even the apartheid era for the number of racial laws.

00:35:13.540 This time against the white minority.

00:35:17.700 It's as simple as that.

00:35:18.460 So it is literally revenge.

00:35:20.960 Yeah, of course it is.

00:35:21.940 Two wrongs do make a rat.

00:35:23.620 I see.

00:35:24.060 I understand.

00:35:24.440 You can hear it from black South Africans all the time where they're just spiteful.

00:35:30.520 They look at them.

00:35:31.620 Resentful.

00:35:31.740 They look at the success of white people in South Africa.

00:35:34.740 And they don't understand that it comes with hard work and understanding and being educated.

00:35:40.100 They don't understand all of the work that goes into European civilization, basically.

00:35:44.080 And they just think that we've somehow cheated them out of it like it's their birthright.

00:35:48.000 And this is very similar.

00:35:48.820 We actually talked about cargo cults, didn't we?

00:35:52.440 In the Andaman Islands, in one of my contemplation series on the website.

00:35:57.840 And they believed that all of the goods that the Americans had in World War II, they were on the island, and they saw all of this advanced technology.

00:36:05.720 They were living in the Stone Age.

00:36:07.000 And they thought that these things of technology, these were created by their ancestors because they never saw the Americans making them.

00:36:15.820 They couldn't conceive of the notion that they were manufacturing it at home and bringing it along.

00:36:21.320 They thought, well, we work hard.

00:36:23.560 Therefore, these things belong to us.

00:36:25.820 They couldn't put the two and two together.

00:36:28.320 And I think exactly the same phenomenon is going on here.

00:36:31.300 And what has actually happened is parties have accused the white minority groups of treason for this.

00:36:46.700 So...

00:36:47.300 How does that work?

00:36:49.380 Treason to what?

00:36:50.260 A government that's trying to steal their stuff?

00:36:52.020 So, it was South Africa's ex-president, Jacob Zuma, who's got the backing of the Zulus, filed a treason complaint against AfriForum, which is an Afrikaans group.

00:37:04.080 So, white group.

00:37:05.640 Okay.

00:37:06.320 It's basically him saying, you're being treasonous to the people of Africa.

00:37:10.680 By not giving us your stuff.

00:37:12.280 Yes.

00:37:13.140 Obviously nonsense.

00:37:14.700 And they're trying to describe it as, you know, we've just added this to allow us to develop our economy.

00:37:23.000 But as we can see from newspapers here, they're just describing them as land grabbers.

00:37:29.080 And they're just moving onto farms in big crowds, as you can see, just trying to take stuff.

00:37:34.760 That's all it is.

00:37:36.100 There's nothing really to it.

00:37:37.840 It's just black people want to take stuff from white people.

00:37:40.700 And they feel like they deserve it because they don't understand the work that went into creating the civilization that they can neither understand nor recreate themselves.

00:37:50.780 Or even maintain.

00:37:52.140 No, or maintain.

00:37:53.420 And also, correct me if I'm wrong, is the dominant black ethnic group in South Africa, is it now Bantus and not Coy?

00:38:01.480 I think so.

00:38:02.600 I'm not entirely sure.

00:38:04.040 So, I mean, it's not even like they were there, like, before the Afrikaners, the people who became there.

00:38:11.540 Well, they justify it as, well, we've got more right to it because at least we're African.

00:38:15.540 That's the way that I think that they'll square that circle.

00:38:18.880 Oh, okay, okay.

00:38:20.060 But, I mean, surely, like, if they want to make that argument, it's the Coy and people like that who should have a say.

00:38:26.000 Not that I think they should steal it.

00:38:27.980 We're seeing things like this, where they're reporting on the majority of farm ownership here, 72% white, which is why the farms grow food.

00:38:37.060 And there are people like this guy.

00:38:39.340 The real genocide happening in South Africa is towards black people.

00:38:42.540 Oh, really?

00:38:42.980 Who's doing that then?

00:38:45.220 Oh, no, they're making all our food.

00:38:47.780 I'm literally dying.

00:38:49.020 Oh, they're feeding me.

00:38:51.460 Terrible.

00:38:51.900 I saw this about a while ago now, maybe three or four years ago, something in that ballpark, it was that the farm murders were getting a bit of traction in some of the mainstream media.

00:39:00.500 So the BBC put out a big piece about how, actually, if there's any large-scale murdering, organised murders going on, it's against black people in South Africa.

00:39:11.780 Well, we'll soon see from a black man in South Africa that that's not true.

00:39:16.120 But I'm not going to get onto that quite yet, because it seems like they're trying to respond and sort of fob off Trump, which is not going to be a smart move, by deliberately going to get nuclear deals with Iran and Russia.

00:39:30.220 It's like a thumbing their nose at this, because this was only a few days after Trump said what he did.

00:39:36.840 And it's very obvious to me that they're going to turn to them and rub the US's nose in it.

00:39:43.560 But it's a very flawed strategy, really.

00:39:47.880 They're just going to alienate themselves from a lot of the world that they rely on.

00:39:51.700 Back in the 90s, in the Blair era, they did, Britain and the United States as some sort of bloc, did deals with both South Africa, the Nelson Mandela South Africa, and Libya, when they still had Gaddafi.

00:40:07.300 They did deals of, we'll give you all sorts of stuff, but just don't start a nuclear, like a uranium or plutonium enrichment program.

00:40:16.580 Just don't do it.

00:40:17.400 And they got the deals.

00:40:18.480 There's pictures of Blair in a tent with Gaddafi and stuff, and they did one with South Africa.

00:40:22.620 But the thing is, sort of let them, the technical ability to make fissionable material will be beyond them.

00:40:29.680 If they can't really maintain farms or any sort of agriculture.

00:40:33.800 They don't even have electricity or running water anymore.

00:40:37.760 They can't maintain electricity pylons.

00:40:40.660 They're probably not going to be able to enrich uranium to a weapons grade level.

00:40:44.720 I mean, how do you know, Poe?

00:40:46.000 Have you got a scientific study proving that?

00:40:48.480 It's just my gut.

00:40:49.640 It's just my gut.

00:40:50.120 Okay, so not scientific.

00:40:51.980 No, no, no, no, no.

00:40:53.480 Anecdotal evidence.

00:40:54.200 Yeah, anecdotal.

00:40:55.040 Let's have a look at some of the race relations going on.

00:40:58.020 And I found this interesting.

00:40:59.460 So this guy, he's, I think he's the top guy in the police in KwaZulu-Natal,

00:41:06.880 which is where all of the Zulus are, in the east of the country.

00:41:09.760 And I'm going to play a short bit of this, just to hear what he's saying, because in the current political climate in South Africa, this was quite impressive.

00:41:19.820 I said, oh, I'm going to skip it ahead a little bit.

00:41:21.940 40%.

00:41:22.500 Hang on.

00:41:23.840 Where is it?

00:41:25.720 I'm going to get to about there.

00:41:27.220 Okay.

00:41:27.740 Going forward.

00:41:29.020 Our perpetrators, Premier, we felt we must put this light so that we can identify what is our problem.

00:41:36.400 Because we need to analyze what is the problem.

00:41:38.120 The problem we have, you forgive me on this, but this is not me talking.

00:41:43.280 These are the stats.

00:41:44.460 We have a problem with a black man in South Africa.

00:41:48.440 Okay.

00:41:49.820 So he goes on.

00:41:50.840 I didn't understand it.

00:41:51.400 We have a problem with the black man what?

00:41:52.840 In South Africa.

00:41:53.740 Oh, okay.

00:41:54.520 Oh, right.

00:41:54.900 Okay.

00:41:55.520 So he goes on to list.

00:41:56.680 I'm not going to play the full video because I think a lot of people won't be able to pick up on the accent.

00:42:01.080 Out of the 60,000 crimes in his district, 57,000 were black men.

00:42:06.920 And presumably a minority of them were black women as well.

00:42:10.440 So that's a pretty, and that's in the past five years as well.

00:42:14.660 And so he's saying like, listen, we can basically blame white people all we want.

00:42:18.860 But the problem is us.

00:42:20.880 So when the BBC was saying, oh, actually, it's black people who are victimized more than anybody else.

00:42:26.420 Imagine my shock that it's black people doing the victimizing.

00:42:30.380 This man understands per capita.

00:42:32.040 This man knows how he would feel if he didn't have breakfast this morning.

00:42:35.120 Fair play to him.

00:42:36.920 No, honestly, for such a racialized country like South Africa, where it's so divisive, fair play to him for actually saying it.

00:42:49.320 Yeah, credit to him.

00:42:49.940 And the funny thing is that this guy is pretty beloved.

00:42:55.160 There are loads of, here's an article basically singing his praises about how he does such a good job.

00:43:01.200 And I wasn't able to find a bad word about him, which is interesting.

00:43:05.160 He's basically saying, listen, the problem isn't the white people, it's us.

00:43:08.220 The one not corrupt man in South Africa.

00:43:10.680 And there are lots of posts here that have done quite well on X.

00:43:16.040 People just praising him.

00:43:18.300 They're at it again, talking about just shooting criminals all the time, which is great.

00:43:24.360 That's what you need to do.

00:43:25.480 Loads of people saying he's cleaning up KwaZulu-Natal, taking down all the criminals.

00:43:29.700 Every post I was able to see, and I looked for quite a while, was glowing with praise.

00:43:35.640 And just to sort of hammer this home a little bit, I found a quote from him and he says,

00:43:41.340 It is up to God to judge the criminals for their barbaric actions.

00:43:44.560 However, it is up to me to make sure that they meet him sooner than expected.

00:43:48.620 That's a great line.

00:43:50.520 That's great.

00:43:52.500 If that came out of the mouth of a real badass sheriff from New Mexico or something, you'd be like, yeah, cool.

00:43:57.920 Yeah, he's our guy.

00:44:00.240 But clearly what's accidentally happened is this man has internalized whiteness.

00:44:04.580 It's terrible.

00:44:05.500 That must be it.

00:44:05.960 Terrible to see the self-hating racism this man is projecting by protecting his communities.

00:44:11.180 Is he our guy?

00:44:12.340 He's like the online riot of South Africa.

00:44:14.380 He needs to start making memes.

00:44:16.180 He needs to start churning out memes of this guy.

00:44:19.060 All he needs to do is do his job.

00:44:21.400 And that's enough for us.

00:44:22.780 Yes.

00:44:23.360 What there is a lot of, though, is this sort of thing.

00:44:25.380 There's a guy here talking about double standards.

00:44:27.920 Remember, your tax money funds this organization.

00:44:30.520 And this guy says, you're no longer whites.

00:44:32.920 You now are Neanderthals.

00:44:34.740 Now you know your place.

00:44:35.980 Human rights are for humans only.

00:44:38.140 And we see this a lot from people in South Africa.

00:44:43.860 Here are some more people.

00:44:46.760 White people are inferior species to us.

00:44:49.520 They have Neanderthal blood in them, which is true.

00:44:52.600 It's good.

00:44:52.880 It's great.

00:44:53.620 That's a good thing.

00:44:54.960 Where do you think I got this brow from?

00:44:57.480 We are dealing with the weakest whites, which I don't think is even true either.

00:45:02.080 White people are just below human beings.

00:45:05.000 I mean, to describe the settlers and the boars as some of the weakest whites.

00:45:09.460 No.

00:45:09.980 It's the opposite.

00:45:10.900 Absolutely not.

00:45:11.900 They're the frontiersmen.

00:45:13.920 They're living amongst very violent people that want them dead.

00:45:17.400 And they're supposedly weak, apparently.

00:45:19.000 You're negotiating with an animal, a wild dog.

00:45:22.160 And...

00:45:22.520 So he's one of the most disgenic people ever.

00:45:24.720 I know.

00:45:25.560 Look at them.

00:45:26.380 The weakest whites in his...

00:45:27.940 Look at his biceps are the same width as his forearms.

00:45:32.600 But we're the weakest.

00:45:34.820 Okay.

00:45:35.260 He's fed more by you and aid than he is by his own parents.

00:45:39.060 But as survived the jive, Tom Roussel points out here,

00:45:42.560 someone needs to inform these gentlemen that if 2% Neanderthal DNA makes Europeans non-human,

00:45:46.780 then them having up to 19% ghost species DNA doesn't exactly reinforce that argument.

00:45:52.680 They are homo sapiens and we aren't.

00:45:54.620 Which is true.

00:45:55.520 And, of course, there's...

00:45:58.240 You don't have to make value judgments off of any of this.

00:46:00.820 You mess with Survive the Jive at your peril.

00:46:04.000 Oh, yeah.

00:46:04.640 Right?

00:46:05.420 Great stuff.

00:46:06.420 He's going to dunk on you if you start talking about genetics.

00:46:09.440 Yeah, he has all of the information at hand at all times.

00:46:13.420 I don't know how he does it, but he does.

00:46:16.060 But this is very true.

00:46:17.120 We've talked about this before, haven't we?

00:46:18.780 When we talked about the evolution of humanity.

00:46:22.060 That there's this ghost species that exists in Africa.

00:46:25.860 And also there was some interbreeding between modern homo sapiens in Africa and also homo erectus that preceded them as well.

00:46:36.420 There's an overlapping period and that could be traced.

00:46:39.000 Well, it's just really, really complicated, isn't it?

00:46:40.960 There's the old, now really out of date, out of Africa hypothesis where there's Australopithecus and there's like a single African mother from which everyone is descended.

00:46:50.600 Which is now, that's not the case.

00:46:52.660 Yeah, there were hominids outside of Africa long before modern humans existed.

00:46:57.600 But I don't want to.

00:46:59.020 We digress.

00:47:00.160 As much as I'd like to go down that rabbit hole, I don't have the time.

00:47:03.780 So let's have a look at what this is resulting in.

00:47:07.460 Well, South Africans have to have massive gates in their house, in the middle of their house.

00:47:13.540 This isn't their front door.

00:47:14.740 This is a gate between, I think, their bedrooms from the rest of the house.

00:47:21.040 So they had to turn their own home into a prison because of this sort of thing.

00:47:26.480 And then, of course, if you point this out, the ADL will call you racist and obsessed with the white genocide that they put in quotation marks.

00:47:36.160 But it's undeniably happening, let's be honest.

00:47:38.600 And there are possible issues for the government in South Africa, thankfully.

00:47:46.880 They've postponed their budget for the first time because they're in a coalition government for the first time since the end of apartheid.

00:47:54.860 And basically the pro-business DA, Democratic Alliance, and also some of the ANC itself have objected to a proposal to increase VAT by 2% to 17%.

00:48:05.660 And this has basically scuppered their entire budget.

00:48:09.020 And Ramaphosa here explicitly said about this crisis that budget fallouts are how governments collapse and brought up Germany.

00:48:19.580 There are other examples as well, some in Africa.

00:48:22.400 I think it was, where was it, Kenya, I think?

00:48:26.080 Somewhere like that.

00:48:26.680 I'm really stretching my memory here.

00:48:28.500 But even he's acknowledged, listen, this is an existential threat to our government here.

00:48:33.160 So it is entirely possible that if they don't come to terms on this budget, then the ANC could be out of power for the first time since 1994, which would be massive.

00:48:43.920 Whether a worse party takes their place is, you know, difficult to say.

00:48:49.800 But I would be quite surprised.

00:48:52.000 But who knows?

00:48:53.520 Who knows what the future holds?

00:48:55.020 I don't really know anything about South African opposition.

00:48:57.160 Because my gut reaction to that was, good, the ANC have run that country absolutely into the ground.

00:49:02.580 Turned it into some sort of living nightmare.

00:49:04.240 But, yeah, I don't know what would come next, though.

00:49:06.460 It might be something even worse.

00:49:07.800 I don't know.

00:49:08.760 Do you know?

00:49:09.180 There are some parties there that aren't as bad.

00:49:11.880 But there's no clear frontrunner to my mind that would be a party where if they enacted their policies in Britain, we'd be like, yeah, they're great.

00:49:20.320 We haven't got one of those here, have we?

00:49:23.160 That's true.

00:49:24.240 To be fair, yeah.

00:49:26.660 So with that pointed out, let's have a look at just some of the decline that the ANC has overseen.

00:49:32.180 I know we've covered some of this before.

00:49:33.600 But just to refresh your memory, you look at 2010 versus 2023, it's obviously got worse.

00:49:41.220 The decline from the apartheid era infrastructure is obvious.

00:49:45.900 You know, you see paved roads versus dirt roads.

00:49:49.300 And I wonder why this is.

00:49:51.920 Oh, here we know.

00:49:53.400 Here we are.

00:49:54.620 You can see how we know this because they pickaxe up the road and sell it on.

00:50:00.500 Because rather than having an actual real job, they just destroy their own infrastructure for their own short-term financial benefit.

00:50:07.160 So they sell broken-up slabs of asphalt?

00:50:10.920 Yes.

00:50:11.820 To who?

00:50:12.500 For what purpose?

00:50:13.680 Is there much of a return on that?

00:50:15.360 I don't think so.

00:50:16.260 In my mind, that is a lot of hard work for something that's not only counterproductive, but doesn't even pay that well.

00:50:23.240 Classic workman.

00:50:23.900 One guy doing stuff.

00:50:25.300 Everybody else watches.

00:50:26.720 He's not got the right kit for it either, has he?

00:50:28.540 I've never seen that before.

00:50:29.380 I have seen people dismantling electricity pylons for the steel.

00:50:34.640 Just, you've pre-saged me perfectly.

00:50:40.040 Right, right.

00:50:40.720 But they're doing it even to tarmac.

00:50:43.700 Oh my God, how short-sighted.

00:50:45.380 So they were taking oil out of electrical transformers to use it for cooking.

00:50:50.300 Which, by the way, safety announcement, that's not a good idea.

00:50:54.220 Yeah, that's not going to be healthy.

00:50:55.480 That's a terrible idea.

00:50:56.200 But it's got to the point where even hospitals in Johannesburg, in the city of Johannesburg, are not able to maintain their electricity because before they were trying to insulate, this was from 2023, that they were trying to insulate lots of hospitals from all of the power outages and making them exempt.

00:51:17.500 But it's to the point now where lots of hospitals are not exempt from load shedding, as they call it, but actually it's just they don't have enough power to power the entire country because it's approaching being a complete failed state.

00:51:33.000 And you can even see it in their education.

00:51:36.720 So apparently 80% of grade 3 pupils still cannot read for meaning, as in they can't read and understand the meaning behind it.

00:51:45.800 And I think it was only 17% possess the expected foundational knowledge and skills, and only 3% demonstrate advanced reading comprehension, which, if you want a functioning country, is not a good thing.

00:52:04.040 I don't need to tell you that.

00:52:05.080 It's obvious.

00:52:06.640 In a modern economy, certainly, because reading things is kind of important.

00:52:11.060 Now does my statement about having the technical capability to run a uranium enrichment program start making a bit more sense?

00:52:18.420 I agreed with you anyway.

00:52:19.880 I'd like to see the kind of instructions they'd draw up for themselves if they can't read.

00:52:24.840 You hit the uranium really, really hard, you might split the atom with a hammer.

00:52:31.700 That's not nuclear advice, by the way.

00:52:35.280 Just to be clear.

00:52:36.880 Uranium ore and a pickaxe is all you need to start to make a nuclear explosion.

00:52:38.940 That's what they were trying to do, they weren't trying to dig up the roads, they'd put some uranium down and they were trying to set it off.

00:52:47.860 That's what it must have been.

00:52:49.080 And here are some South African government employees dealing with a flood.

00:52:55.980 Here they are, working hard.

00:52:57.780 This reminds me of the African fire department, the fire services that we saw in that one video.

00:53:11.240 Oh, where they were throwing rocks at the fire.

00:53:14.100 And continually missing even the fire.

00:53:17.420 They're throwing rocks at a fire they couldn't even hit, yeah.

00:53:19.720 Yeah, this, this is terrible.

00:53:23.860 They're wasting their time, obviously.

00:53:26.440 A bucket at a time and they're just pouring it off.

00:53:29.020 They're just pouring it.

00:53:31.580 It's a bit lethargic.

00:53:33.560 Yeah, they're not exactly being impassioned.

00:53:35.740 Also, why are they not using the bucket to scoop it into?

00:53:39.400 That would be way quicker.

00:53:40.820 Well, that would be, Josh, Josh, this is government bloat.

00:53:43.900 Although, if you did, if you just scooped it up, then those other two people would be unemployed.

00:53:48.260 These are actually USAID employees, I think.

00:53:50.100 Yeah, that would make sense, actually.

00:53:51.980 The absolute reluctance to actually do some work.

00:53:55.780 Do some hard work.

00:53:57.020 I wonder why the Dutch and English settlers built civilization in South Africa.

00:54:02.000 I can't put my finger on it.

00:54:03.520 Three jobs were made through that effort, right?

00:54:06.520 Okay, GDP, the gains were immense.

00:54:10.020 Line goes up.

00:54:10.680 Yeah, the line went up, all is well.

00:54:12.640 Well, South Africa is winning as the line went up.

00:54:16.620 Well, that's my update on South Africa.

00:54:18.480 I'll be keeping an eye on it.

00:54:19.600 And if anything else happens, I'll make sure to cover it.

00:54:23.260 Because it is very, very important.

00:54:24.660 And I know we've made light of some of this.

00:54:26.780 But the situation for the white minority in South Africa isn't anything to laugh about.

00:54:30.400 And if you are in South Africa, my heart does go out to you.

00:54:35.180 I'm not going to do the same thing as Elon, though.

00:54:36.960 And, yes, stay safe and know that there are people outside of South Africa that want to

00:54:44.640 help you and are doing their best to have your back.

00:54:49.620 We've got a few rumble rents.

00:54:51.380 Okay.

00:54:51.720 Is the UK going to have a reverse Boer war and help the whites break away from South Africa?

00:54:59.640 I don't know.

00:55:00.840 I would be surprised with Keir Starmer.

00:55:04.000 I can't read that one, Ryan.

00:55:05.900 Honestly, that kind of thing that they suggested there, that is, like, the one case where I'd

00:55:13.080 actually be in favour of some kind of, like, military action is basically to save the Boers.

00:55:18.960 To save...

00:55:19.520 Well, if anyone has a case for being a refugee, it is...

00:55:22.420 Yeah, exactly, right?

00:55:23.600 And to integrate, yeah.

00:55:25.440 To retake Rhodesia.

00:55:27.040 Oh, that'd be one.

00:55:28.200 To reinstall, like, the Boer Republic, like the Free Orange State or something.

00:55:32.060 Yeah, give me frontiers to reconquer, please.

00:55:36.160 I was built to be on the frontiers.

00:55:37.940 Instead, I'm yapping.

00:55:38.940 You can indeed.

00:55:39.980 Okay.

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00:55:41.820 I don't know.

00:55:42.360 It should be fine, I think.

00:55:43.560 Okay.

00:55:44.000 It's going in raw.

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00:57:30.300 So Salman Rushdie, I'll mention, I'll start the story because a lot of people, perhaps

00:57:34.860 younger people might not be aware of him at all.

00:57:38.620 You know, some Zoomers or people that are not British or American.

00:57:43.200 I am some people.

00:57:44.360 Oh, really?

00:57:44.920 You don't know much about Salman Rushdie?

00:57:45.880 I don't know much about him.

00:57:47.140 I know that he wrote the satanic verses and that got him in trouble and they had a,

00:57:51.060 was it a fatwa put on him?

00:57:52.760 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:57:53.820 That's about the extent of my knowledge.

00:57:55.760 All right.

00:57:56.140 So he's an Indian born British citizen.

00:57:59.820 I mean, he's Sir Salman Rushdie.

00:58:01.200 He's got a knighthood.

00:58:02.420 He was Indian born, Muslim, but an apostate, i.e. he left Islam.

00:58:08.720 Now, that in and of itself is a death sentence.

00:58:12.620 It's a tough gig, yeah.

00:58:13.400 To be an apostate, it's just simply not allowed.

00:58:15.780 But anyway, so it's a British, he wrote many, many books, novels, largely.

00:58:22.440 And one he wrote back in, because he's old now, he's in his late 70s now.

00:58:25.540 But back in 1988, he wrote The Satanic Verses, which is like a big 600-page thing, took him

00:58:32.700 five years to write.

00:58:33.680 And it's a novel.

00:58:34.500 It's just a fictional story.

00:58:36.900 And in that, there's some characters that are loosely based around the Archangel Gabriel

00:58:42.880 and Muhammad.

00:58:44.320 He's given them different names, but their parallels are really obvious.

00:58:48.500 And then in that, he has the character, the Muhammad character, getting instruction from

00:58:54.060 the Archangel Gabriel, as is in the theology.

00:58:57.780 But then instead of conveying the exact words that the Archangel said to him, he changes them

00:59:05.340 slightly when he lets the rest of the world know.

00:59:08.540 Okay, that's it.

00:59:09.340 That's it.

00:59:10.020 That's his crime.

00:59:11.080 That's his blasphemy.

00:59:12.060 So, okay, I mean, if you believe that the Koran is the exact, unaltered, unalterable word

00:59:20.300 of God, then suggesting something like that is blasphemous.

00:59:26.200 Well, the following year, in 1989, the theocratic leader of Iran, the Ayatollah, Ayatollah Khomeini,

00:59:34.880 issued a fatwa, which is a call to murder him.

00:59:38.720 And anyone else connected to the publication of it.

00:59:40.940 So, like, the Japanese translator was murdered.

00:59:45.360 The Italian translator was very nearly murdered.

00:59:48.680 The Norwegian publisher was shot at point-blank range and left for dead, but didn't actually

00:59:54.940 die.

00:59:56.340 He himself had many death threats.

00:59:59.540 Even Christopher Hitchens, who's just his friend, got death threats.

01:00:03.820 And for, like, nine, ten years, he was in full-blown hiding.

01:00:07.860 And the British state had to pay for all of that.

01:00:12.960 In the end, in the end, the Ayatollahs or the mullahs of Iran sort of formally ended the

01:00:19.480 fatwa.

01:00:19.940 But that doesn't mean that there aren't still sort of militant fundamentalists who still

01:00:23.820 wanted to see him dead or hurt, at least.

01:00:26.720 He's already on their radar, isn't he?

01:00:28.500 And so they see him as an enemy of Islam and then their game for them to take out their

01:00:34.600 anger.

01:00:35.500 Well, as I say, I mean, even just being an apostate is enough.

01:00:38.380 It is enough, almost.

01:00:41.340 Okay.

01:00:41.660 So it was in the news.

01:00:43.320 So, okay.

01:00:43.900 That's what happened.

01:00:44.720 But then back in 2022, so many, many years later, he was doing, he was on stage doing

01:00:51.940 a talk in America, in upstate New York somewhere.

01:00:56.340 And this 27-year-old dude comes out of the crowd and stabs him 15 times real quick.

01:01:04.720 It's like a proper sort of prison-style shanking.

01:01:07.200 Just sort of stabbed him in the neck, in the eye, slit his throat, stabbed him in the liver

01:01:11.600 on the kidney.

01:01:13.180 He's got damage in his arms, his hands a bit gimped up or whatever.

01:01:16.620 He's like, it was really bad.

01:01:17.600 He nearly died.

01:01:18.180 He was in surgery for like eight hours or whatever.

01:01:20.740 It was shocking.

01:01:20.980 He lost an eye.

01:01:21.700 One of his eyes is now gone.

01:01:24.060 Shocking he lived.

01:01:25.160 Yeah, right.

01:01:25.540 It is, yeah.

01:01:26.380 Yeah.

01:01:26.680 Because he was already in his like mid-early 70s.

01:01:28.800 Yeah, he's very, very lucky.

01:01:30.700 Yeah.

01:01:31.780 I mean, so that's what happened.

01:01:36.660 And finally, the guy finished his trial and was found guilty.

01:01:40.780 Took two years.

01:01:42.340 Yeah.

01:01:43.820 They got him on video doing it.

01:01:45.700 Yeah, and there was video of it.

01:01:46.560 I mean, play this clip.

01:01:47.500 You don't need any sound and it's not graphic.

01:01:50.240 You don't see the actual stabbing.

01:01:52.440 It's just to show that it actually happened.

01:01:57.560 So don't worry.

01:01:58.380 It's not actually graphic.

01:02:00.740 So finally, when he was convicted just a few days ago now, and he hasn't been sentenced

01:02:10.140 yet, but they expect he'll get loads.

01:02:12.440 He'll get like 30 years maybe or something like that.

01:02:14.160 Because in America, there's one thing often they do do well.

01:02:18.380 If you are convicted of something, they usually do hand down pretty decent sentences, custodial

01:02:22.960 sentences, right?

01:02:23.980 Often, not always, but.

01:02:26.420 Sometimes, depending on the.

01:02:27.880 Depending on the state.

01:02:28.780 Yeah.

01:02:29.120 And depending on the judge.

01:02:30.440 But like they hand out life imprisonment without parole a lot more than we do, a lot more

01:02:38.380 than European countries do, right?

01:02:40.280 We've only got a handful of people that have got that.

01:02:42.280 A whole life sentence, we call it.

01:02:44.360 With, you know, no chance of parole.

01:02:46.220 Whereas in some states in America anyway, they do it a fair bit.

01:02:50.340 So anyway, that dude is going to go down.

01:02:52.500 And when he was asked, they did an interview with him, I think the Washington Post or maybe

01:02:58.040 the New York Post, one of the big papers, did an interview with him over the phone from

01:03:02.080 prison shortly after.

01:03:04.560 And the obvious question, why did you do it?

01:03:07.100 And he was like, well, because of the satanic verses and things.

01:03:10.720 And they were like, have you read it?

01:03:12.220 And he's like, no.

01:03:14.540 And they're like, do you know much about Salman Rushdie in his life?

01:03:17.600 He's like, not really.

01:03:18.400 I just know he's sort of, as far as I'm concerned, as an Islamist.

01:03:21.320 And I know I need to kill him.

01:03:22.800 Yeah, yeah.

01:03:23.220 So, I mean, he wasn't even alive in 1988 or 1989 when it was first published and when

01:03:30.380 the Facto was first issued.

01:03:32.720 So, OK, it was in, I want to shine a little bit of a light on this, but it was in the news

01:03:37.440 a bit.

01:03:37.960 So you could just run through some of these things.

01:03:39.280 The Independent did a bit.

01:03:42.160 Free Speech Centre.

01:03:44.760 Go to the next link.

01:03:46.200 Got it.

01:03:46.600 OK.

01:03:47.380 The Guardian, Al Jazeera, BBC.

01:03:50.560 So it was mentioned in the mainstream media.

01:03:52.840 I'm not trying to say they completely blanked it, but they didn't make a big thing out of

01:03:56.840 it.

01:03:57.600 Yes, it's always interesting, isn't it, in the news when they really push and highlight

01:04:02.360 a story.

01:04:03.100 They'll milk it for every tiny little detail.

01:04:06.520 And sometimes it can be stories that the public's not interested in.

01:04:10.380 I think that in a case like this, the reason that they're not putting it in the spotlight

01:04:14.500 more is pretty obvious.

01:04:16.140 It's that you can write a book that makes a very subtle criticism to a European eye, at

01:04:23.060 least, of Islam, perhaps.

01:04:26.100 And for the rest of your life, you'll have to live in hiding, which, of course, has happened

01:04:30.800 to many people in Britain and elsewhere.

01:04:34.060 That schoolteacher's still in hiding, isn't he?

01:04:37.000 Well, it happens.

01:04:40.340 It's not just this.

01:04:41.080 The reason why Salman Rushdie, I think, is a case study is that he didn't even, you

01:04:47.140 know, do the full burning of the Koran or anything like that.

01:04:50.840 He didn't draw a picture.

01:04:51.740 He didn't draw a picture.

01:04:52.840 He didn't put bacon on the handle of a mosque.

01:04:55.600 Which is a death sentence in the UK, right?

01:04:57.820 Yeah.

01:04:57.980 So his, quote-unquote, crimes are really quite minor.

01:05:02.440 His blaspheming was minimal.

01:05:06.580 I mean, he wrote a novel.

01:05:09.220 They were fictional characters.

01:05:13.520 But there you go.

01:05:14.300 And all these years later, all these years later, he's still sort of in fear for his

01:05:19.100 life.

01:05:21.380 Now, I don't agree with every single opinion I've ever heard Salman Rushdie say.

01:05:25.020 Not at all.

01:05:25.440 But the point is, is that it highlights the specter of fundamentalist or militant Islamism.

01:05:35.920 And that in the West, in the Anglosphere, whatever you want to say, there's this mass

01:05:41.820 project to just pretend it's not there, pretend it doesn't exist, pretend it's not happening.

01:05:47.460 The Salman Rushdie assault, attempted murder, rather, is just something that happens.

01:05:53.220 He sort of brought it on himself.

01:05:54.460 In fact, that's one of the things that has been said.

01:05:59.660 Christopher Hitchens, in his book, God is Not Great, talked a bit about this.

01:06:03.500 How various people would side with, this is an older version of the document.

01:06:12.380 Anyway, other people would side with the Ayatollah on this.

01:06:17.820 So he mentioned that the Pope at the time, the Archbishop of Canterbury, the head rabbi

01:06:23.660 of Israel, the head cardinal of New York, someone like Hugh Trevor Roper, a historian, John Le Carrier

01:06:31.720 and a novelist.

01:06:32.460 They all sided with the Ayatollah saying, look, it's not right or fair particularly that Salman

01:06:39.460 Rushdie should be hiding in fear for his life.

01:06:41.960 But he has done something wrong though.

01:06:43.920 He has offended, he's guilty of blasphemy.

01:06:49.120 And obviously a lot of multiculturalists and globalists would also often go along with the same thing.

01:06:55.420 Cowardice.

01:06:55.740 It's like actually wagging a finger at Salman Rushdie for daring to blaspheme, for daring

01:07:00.320 to offend the religious.

01:07:05.040 I really, really dislike this sort of thing because it's a wonderful opportunity to show,

01:07:11.620 listen, these people will drive someone to the ends of the earth for a very gentle criticism.

01:07:17.960 And that shadow should live over anyone who isn't Islamic, right?

01:07:23.680 Or perhaps even people who are Islamic that might want to leave.

01:07:27.960 And rather than saying, okay, obviously this is bad and, you know, having a pretty strong moral position,

01:07:35.480 they're doing the cowardly thing and siding with the Ayatollah and saying,

01:07:41.240 you did a bad thing, even though they themselves don't believe in it.

01:07:44.320 It can only be described as cowardice.

01:07:49.440 Yeah, I mean, absolutely, yeah, moral cowardice, yeah.

01:07:52.740 Or that they truly believe that blasphemy is more important than sort of the secular rule of law.

01:08:00.340 Right, they should be allowed to, in a free and open society,

01:08:03.960 where there's freedom of expression, you should be allowed to criticise with amazing anything you want.

01:08:09.080 I mean, they have a very different conception of law than we do.

01:08:12.040 It's not secular.

01:08:12.840 It's not supposed to be sort of equal rights for people.

01:08:18.680 We know what their version of law is.

01:08:20.900 Well, you remember the Danish cartoons when that came out a long time ago now.

01:08:26.300 I mean, I remember that being in the news cycle and the mainstream media will just get some cleric on.

01:08:34.040 And he'd say, yeah, they shouldn't have done the cartoons, though.

01:08:40.100 They shouldn't.

01:08:41.100 They have done something wrong by depicting Mohammed or whatever.

01:08:45.080 Or after Charlie Hebdo or something.

01:08:47.080 It's like, yeah, the murders are terrible, but they brought it upon themselves.

01:08:50.220 And then you'll find people of other faiths backing them up on that, saying, yeah, yeah, yeah, we condemn the bloodshed, but...

01:08:59.740 Yeah.

01:09:00.720 Well, the unfortunate thing is that you don't even have to have done anything wrong.

01:09:05.880 Not that I think, you know, criticising Islam is doing anything wrong in the first place.

01:09:09.400 But you can just be walking down the street in Germany.

01:09:13.620 You could be, you know, in Belgium or France or England.

01:09:17.940 You could be in any one of these places and have done nothing to a Muslim, and they will kill you just for the crime of not being one of them.

01:09:26.760 You don't have to have done anything anymore.

01:09:29.360 I think that...

01:09:30.120 You could be a baby in a pram and a car hits you in the middle of a market.

01:09:34.300 Right, yeah.

01:09:34.680 I mean, Hitchens called it...

01:09:38.300 Christopher Hitchens called it a challenge to civil society.

01:09:42.040 He's putting it lightly, yeah.

01:09:43.400 This sort of religious fundamentalism or militant Islam.

01:09:47.960 It's antithetical to civil society, isn't it?

01:09:50.240 An outrageous invasion.

01:09:52.280 We have to put up with outrageous invasions and insults endlessly.

01:09:56.240 Whilst they will accept...

01:09:57.460 He says, it's impossible to imagine a greater affront to every value of free expression.

01:10:01.800 It's partly horrifying and partly grotesque.

01:10:04.680 Um, yeah.

01:10:07.680 He said that the literal mind, i.e. someone like the Salman Rushdie attacker, the literal mind does not understand the ironic mind, and in fact always sees it as a source of danger.

01:10:18.560 You're not allowed to write a novel that someone like the Ayatollah considers to be blasphemous.

01:10:24.540 You're not allowed to.

01:10:25.640 The penalty is death.

01:10:28.060 Um, yeah.

01:10:30.060 Okay.

01:10:30.400 It's just barbaric, isn't it, that people allow this to happen as well and try and bend over backwards to justify it because of their own moral failings.

01:10:39.820 And these people are still allowed to have a position in civil society and aren't laughed out of the room for being a pathetic coward.

01:10:47.380 You're not allowed to criticise it.

01:10:48.960 If you do criticise Islam, it's just labelled as Islamophobia, isn't it?

01:10:52.560 You might have all seen the clip of, um, Sadiq Khan and Keir Starmer sitting down and just both agreeing with each other.

01:10:58.380 Yes, Islamophobia is a terrible scourge on our society and all that sort of thing.

01:11:03.320 Well, uh...

01:11:04.380 I'm sure it was Islamophobia that carried out the Manchester Arena bombing, wasn't it?

01:11:07.800 Or the 7-7 attacks.

01:11:08.900 It was all Islamophobia that did that.

01:11:11.700 Well, Christopher Hitchens called Islamophobia a word created by fascists, used by cowards to manipulate morons.

01:11:19.240 Um, it's quite...

01:11:20.740 Too far off, yeah.

01:11:21.680 Quite succinct.

01:11:23.040 Anyway, the last link there, again, if we just let...

01:11:26.380 A lot of, uh, our Christian viewers probably hate Christopher Hitchens, but I thought he was...

01:11:31.220 Again, I don't agree with everything Christopher Hitchens said by any stretch of the imagination.

01:11:35.820 Uh, I think he was wrong about the Iraq War and a number of things.

01:11:38.720 But on this, he was super strong.

01:11:41.880 On this sort of thing, he was super strong.

01:11:44.000 If you go to the last link, and let's just watch this, and he's talking about Islamophobia.

01:11:48.440 Back in 2009, he said this.

01:11:50.920 Uh, I'll...

01:11:51.760 Where's the map? There it is.

01:11:55.140 This is very urgent business, ladies and gentlemen.

01:11:57.660 I beseech you.

01:11:59.160 Resist it while you still can.

01:12:00.640 And before the right to complain is taken away from you, which will be the next thing.

01:12:05.740 You will be told you can't complain, because you're Islamophobic.

01:12:10.580 The term is already being introduced into the culture, as if it was an accusation of race hatred, for example.

01:12:17.680 Or, or, or bigotry.

01:12:18.860 Whereas it's only the objection to the preachings of a very extreme and absolutist religion.

01:12:23.680 Watch out for these symptoms.

01:12:25.080 They're the symptoms of surrender.

01:12:26.260 Very often ecumenically offered to you by men of God in other robes, Christian and Jewish and smarmy ecumenical.

01:12:34.440 These are the, these are the ones who will hold open the gates for the barbarians.

01:12:38.600 The barbarians never take a city till someone holds the gates open for them.

01:12:42.260 And it's your own preachers who will do it for you, and your own multicultural authorities who will do it for you.

01:12:48.580 Resist, resist it while you can.

01:12:53.240 Boom, C Hitch at his best.

01:12:56.440 Okay.

01:12:56.900 Wasn't wrong there, was he?

01:12:58.140 Prophetic in many ways.

01:12:59.440 Absolutely prophetic, yeah.

01:13:00.760 Yeah.

01:13:00.880 Okay, that's the end of that.

01:13:05.200 Okay, do we have any video comments, Samson?

01:13:07.440 Oh, we've got two more rumble rants, and then, do we have video comments, Samson?

01:13:13.300 Oh, hang on.

01:13:14.240 There you go, Bo.

01:13:14.660 We can't hear you.

01:13:16.140 I can't hear you over the sound of my islander, Samson.

01:13:20.140 It's very noisy.

01:13:21.020 Speak up.

01:13:22.200 Oh, we do have some.

01:13:23.180 We do have some.

01:13:23.540 Wait, rumble rants first.

01:13:24.680 Samson's just giving us the silent treatment.

01:13:26.220 Go on, go ahead, Bo.

01:13:27.520 Oh, there we go, okay.

01:13:28.980 What's this?

01:13:29.320 Okay, Ryan Hinn 3-gen.

01:13:32.900 Ryan Hinnigan, but with a 3 in it.

01:13:35.480 Okay, Ryan Hinnigan says, Mohamed, I can't say that.

01:13:41.300 I've basically said it, I almost said it.

01:13:43.020 After he's said it.

01:13:43.920 Oh, no, I can't say that.

01:13:44.940 After all that segment.

01:13:48.780 Mohamed is alleged to have put seeds in his ears, so when doves ate them, and it looked

01:13:59.060 like doves were whispering to him, he used this to claim God spoke to him directly.

01:14:04.580 Okay.

01:14:05.080 I've never heard that.

01:14:06.100 I don't know if I'm a lunatic.

01:14:07.880 It sounds like the Quran, to be honest.

01:14:11.240 The engaged few says, when someone is given a life without parole sentence, they should

01:14:15.380 be put in a cell and the door should be bricked over.

01:14:18.400 They used to call that being walled up.

01:14:21.860 That used to be a crime, often for women that were adulterous.

01:14:25.260 You'd get walled up.

01:14:26.640 But that's quite a quick death, though, relatively.

01:14:28.580 Well, yeah, at that point, that's just a waste of space and bricks.

01:14:32.740 Just give them capital punishment if you're going to do that.

01:14:35.320 I mean, life without parole sentence.

01:14:38.320 What's the point in clothing them and feeding them and just keeping them alive until they

01:14:43.580 end up dying naturally?

01:14:44.780 Just get it over with.

01:14:48.480 Yeah, it wouldn't be a whole life sentence because you'd be dead within three or four

01:14:51.660 days of dehydration, wouldn't you?

01:14:53.520 A three-day sentence.

01:14:55.280 Yeah.

01:14:56.140 Yeah, yeah.

01:14:56.820 Okay.

01:14:59.880 Bald Eagle 1787 says, honest question about the Islander, would you guys consider releasing

01:15:04.620 an issue that contains all the previous Islanders in it, like Islander 10 contains the previous

01:15:09.420 nine also?

01:15:10.600 Or like an Almaniac or an annual?

01:15:13.140 I don't know.

01:15:13.940 We're not really the people to ask.

01:15:15.580 Send an email to the main email address and it'll get considered.

01:15:19.820 I think what he's talking about there is called a book.

01:15:23.460 Possibly a book that's just a compilation of all of the articles that have been published

01:15:26.880 in it, which sounds interesting.

01:15:29.400 Yeah, maybe.

01:15:29.900 I'd love for us to have a publishing arm releasing original stuff, but no, that's not for us.

01:15:35.060 That's not for our ears.

01:15:36.840 Not for my pay grade, I'm afraid.

01:15:38.720 A hardback, big coffee table books at $149.99.

01:15:43.760 A low, low price.

01:15:45.160 Yeah, a low, low price at the steal for $149.99.

01:15:49.560 It'll be so hardback that you could bludgeon a home invader to death with it.

01:15:54.060 It's actually a protective device.

01:15:55.440 It doubles up.

01:15:56.100 For our South African fans.

01:15:58.940 Oh dear.

01:16:00.520 Shall we watch the video comments?

01:16:01.820 Of course.

01:16:02.360 Serving monkeys at the Monkey Mountain in Japan.

01:16:08.280 We saw this one yesterday.

01:16:09.880 I'm happy to see it again.

01:16:11.140 Always happy to see monkeys.

01:16:12.900 You're a big fan of monkey news.

01:16:14.160 I am, yeah.

01:16:15.860 Chimpanzee that.

01:16:23.360 I'd be a bit scared of monkeys that big.

01:16:25.260 I feel like their grip strength is better than mine.

01:16:27.820 Like if it did come out, if it was going berserk, it could rip my face off and there

01:16:30.960 wouldn't be a great deal I could do about it.

01:16:32.500 The funny thing is...

01:16:32.900 I reckon I could take a monkey.

01:16:34.320 I feel like the monkey...

01:16:35.380 They were big ones though.

01:16:36.340 They were like what?

01:16:36.880 I could take a four foot tall.

01:16:38.320 I'm basically a big monkey.

01:16:39.520 I'll take a monkey.

01:16:40.640 I think a monkey could have a mutual understanding with a person though.

01:16:43.560 Because you see them sometimes...

01:16:45.080 Mutual respect.

01:16:45.960 You see them sometimes where they steal someone's shoe or their phone and then they're like,

01:16:50.000 come on, pay up the food.

01:16:51.500 And you hand them the food and then they give you your item back and run away.

01:16:55.360 They sort of understand what they're up to.

01:16:58.020 Like a little one with a tail like the one Ross had as a pet in Friends.

01:17:01.740 That's okay.

01:17:02.840 Because I could pick that up and throw it and it would be fine.

01:17:05.360 Just rip it in two.

01:17:06.120 It would be fine.

01:17:06.780 But one that's like...

01:17:07.800 Think about doing this to monkeys often.

01:17:09.620 One that's like four foot tall and weighs like 150 pounds and its forearms are more powerful

01:17:14.080 than mine.

01:17:15.260 Like then I'll be a bit worried.

01:17:16.800 Like a mandrill.

01:17:17.820 And its fire is worse than humans.

01:17:20.120 You can get working on the grip trainers.

01:17:22.480 There you go.

01:17:23.040 Start doing some bouldering.

01:17:24.280 That'll give you some juicy forearms.

01:17:26.160 And then you're ready to take that monkey bow.

01:17:28.140 You're not one of those people that think you could take like a bonobo or a chimp in a

01:17:32.020 one-on-one...

01:17:32.540 Not a chimp.

01:17:33.220 I'm not insane.

01:17:34.620 I'm not crazy.

01:17:35.700 But those...

01:17:36.640 Even an adolescent chimp.

01:17:37.980 I'll feed it a banana laced with some sort of thing that drugs it.

01:17:42.000 And then while it's asleep, I'll beat it.

01:17:43.700 So you're being the sneaky evil scientist about it.

01:17:46.960 As expected.

01:17:47.960 No, that's not allowed.

01:17:48.880 I'm talking about a one-on-one...

01:17:51.960 Bare-knuckle boxing match.

01:17:53.820 Bare-knuckle one-on-one to the death.

01:17:56.180 Unarmed.

01:17:57.280 You versus a four-foot chimp.

01:17:59.660 Yeah, no chance.

01:18:01.940 I'm not saying I'd enjoy it, but I'd give it a try.

01:18:04.200 If it were boxing rules, I might win on points.

01:18:08.060 Its bites and clawing and eye gouging are all allowed.

01:18:11.000 Oh, well.

01:18:11.820 I feel like I don't really have the experience with that.

01:18:14.660 Can I sneak a knife point into a steel-toed boot?

01:18:19.520 I know, I know.

01:18:20.860 Entirely.

01:18:21.340 But surely if it's got claws and its teeth, that's an unfair advantage.

01:18:25.180 Like it's got weapons, so...

01:18:26.800 You're allowed to use your teeth if you want.

01:18:29.160 Yeah, but I've got human teeth.

01:18:30.220 I know, yeah, exactly.

01:18:31.080 This is the point I'm making.

01:18:32.120 Anyway...

01:18:32.660 We're a disadvantage.

01:18:33.440 Why don't I just shoot the monkey?

01:18:35.100 Why don't I just shoot it?

01:18:36.040 We've got some more Japan stuff here.

01:18:37.540 We've made tools for this, Bo.

01:18:38.760 You're ridiculous.

01:18:39.400 It's not a hot spring, isn't it?

01:18:53.420 Yeah, it must be.

01:18:54.900 I went to the geezers in Iceland when I went there 10 years ago.

01:18:58.800 They're really spectacular to see, and you can feel the wave of heat coming from them.

01:19:04.600 I'd recommend anybody to go and see them if you can.

01:19:07.280 Just don't swim in them.

01:19:08.000 No, do not swim in them.

01:19:09.640 You will die.

01:19:11.300 This one's for Bo and Dan.

01:19:12.680 So unlike other RPGs that tend to take place in a specific time period, I'm writing my game

01:19:17.480 to cover all time periods, and I'm breaking it up into three books.

01:19:20.700 Medieval, Modern, and Sci-Fi.

01:19:22.480 As it so happens, back in episode 1002, you guys inspired me to write a Sci-Fi campaign

01:19:27.340 about defending the peaceful and wealthy Dantopia on Venus from the attacking Martian

01:19:31.580 Dade Raiders.

01:19:32.720 And in episode 1108, I've been compelled to write a gentleman spy campaign about infiltrating

01:19:37.740 and stopping a tyrannical far-left government, with your permissions, of course.

01:19:41.300 Yeah, of course.

01:19:44.020 Don't even have to ask.

01:19:45.380 I hope the Dade Raiders, the badass Dade Raiders, whooped those pussy willow Venusites, Dan

01:19:53.060 Tub Venusites.

01:19:55.840 There you go.

01:19:56.560 I think that is a full seal of approval right there.

01:19:59.660 Yeah, no.

01:20:00.080 It sounds cool.

01:20:02.080 Make it happen.

01:20:04.560 Is that all?

01:20:05.900 Okay.

01:20:06.560 So, role-play game is also rocket-propelled grenades, right?

01:20:10.100 That's right, yeah.

01:20:10.940 Okay.

01:20:11.420 Yeah.

01:20:11.680 Don't want to get those mixed up.

01:20:12.620 So, I see RPG, and I immediately go...

01:20:14.540 Explosions.

01:20:15.100 Rocket-propelled grenades, yeah.

01:20:16.280 But, no, okay, role-play game.

01:20:17.440 Okay, got it.

01:20:17.760 No, he doesn't want to make a rocket-propelled grenade out of you and Dan.

01:20:22.140 A four-dimensional rocket-propelled grenade?

01:20:24.780 What would that be?

01:20:25.760 That is a physics break for an hour, isn't it?

01:20:27.980 Anyway.

01:20:28.200 I think that might end the world.

01:20:30.220 All right, so, some of the comments from the website.

01:20:32.300 Ewan Baker, The Left-Wing Mind, here's a song for you.

01:20:36.280 Every breath you take and every move you make, every bond you break, every step you take,

01:20:41.440 Hitler's watching you.

01:20:42.900 I should have sung it.

01:20:44.300 I'm not...

01:20:45.040 I'm going to save that for our premium subscribers.

01:20:48.900 Baron von Warhawk.

01:20:50.040 I'm sure the British establishment, which has more admirables...

01:20:52.640 Admirals?

01:20:53.720 Not admirables.

01:20:54.500 The opposite, even.

01:20:55.780 Than warships and more horses than tanks will be able to influence the outcome of the peace deal.

01:21:00.640 Yeah.

01:21:00.840 Like so many others, we just have no leg to stand on.

01:21:04.160 What's our bargaining chip here, lads?

01:21:06.760 What have we got to do, other than just keep throwing money at Ukraine to send its sons

01:21:12.200 and daughters into the meat grinder?

01:21:14.660 I mean, we do have a pretty good military, and we did give Ukraine the most money in Europe,

01:21:20.180 so those are two things, I guess.

01:21:22.440 But we've already done, you know, the giving of money, and you've got to sort of have terms.

01:21:28.800 Yeah.

01:21:29.100 I don't know whether we're going to get anything back.

01:21:31.160 Alpha of the betas.

01:21:32.340 Zelensky made peace talks illegal, so he can't really complain that Ukraine isn't in peace talks.

01:21:36.500 People are in prison in Ukraine for proposing peace.

01:21:39.620 Well, that is true.

01:21:40.380 That was, I mean, the very famous case of Coach Redpill, Gonzalo Lira, who died because he was...

01:21:46.420 He died, didn't he?

01:21:46.940 Yeah, because he was against the Ukrainian effort in the Ukraine war.

01:21:50.940 Now, I will say that was a very stupid thing of him to have done.

01:21:53.480 What actually happened?

01:21:54.360 Was he killed on a battlefield?

01:21:55.620 How did he die?

01:21:56.320 No, I think he was held in prison and mistreated and basically not given the right treatment

01:22:03.840 to be able to continue living.

01:22:05.460 He wasn't fed properly.

01:22:06.360 He was tortured to death.

01:22:07.520 I don't know if he was tortured.

01:22:10.320 Well, I can't say anything official.

01:22:12.120 The most that I know is he was basically malnourished and died.

01:22:16.300 So, pretty, pretty awful.

01:22:18.200 A somewhere person says, it's not allowed to be 1938 until we return to 1938 house prices.

01:22:26.680 That'd be nice, wouldn't it?

01:22:28.720 Are we talking like Great Depression house prices or a functioning economy house prices?

01:22:35.340 I'll take Depression house prices.

01:22:36.620 Yeah, it'll still be better.

01:22:38.440 It'll still be better.

01:22:39.840 And Derek Power says, it's morbidly funny that the current clown world order thinks they

01:22:43.040 are somehow not repeating the same mistakes made in 1938 regarding the sedate and land in

01:22:47.080 Czechoslovakia.

01:22:48.160 It looks like they're making a different kind of mistake, though.

01:22:50.920 Say levy.

01:22:52.840 All right.

01:22:54.560 So, Andrew Narog says, South Africa needs to be recognized as a nation unrepentantly hostile

01:22:59.160 to Western interests and treated accordingly on the world stage.

01:23:02.720 Yeah, well, the ANC, I think, are enemies of white people everywhere and need to be politically

01:23:09.080 destroyed.

01:23:10.620 It's interesting.

01:23:11.140 If you see that South Africa offered in the UN the most vocal about having a pop at Israel

01:23:16.000 about stealing people's land and moving with them.

01:23:19.980 Oh, yeah.

01:23:20.360 Weren't they the one that put forward the UN resolution?

01:23:22.760 It was, yeah.

01:23:23.940 And they also put it forward in The Hague as well to declare Netanyahu a war criminal

01:23:28.060 or something.

01:23:28.960 We're trying to cozy up to the, you know, bricks and the Russians, aren't they, more

01:23:33.240 generally.

01:23:34.180 And so that anything that hurts the US is good for them.

01:23:37.720 Chad Kuala says, oh, calm down.

01:23:39.580 I'm sure seizing complex modern farms from highly skilled, experienced farmers and handing

01:23:44.040 them over to whoever has the right political connections will be great for everyone.

01:23:48.480 It worked out fine in Zimbabwe, after all.

01:23:50.800 I mean, it's not like it caused an economic collapse or famine or anything.

01:23:54.160 Oh, wait.

01:23:55.560 Excellent sarcasm there.

01:23:57.200 Very true.

01:23:58.460 Hector X.

01:23:59.060 Josh, you need to understand.

01:24:01.120 The Tartarians being oppressed by the white farmers.

01:24:05.560 The fake British black royal family.

01:24:10.100 Oh.

01:24:10.300 And the AI images.

01:24:11.560 The Tartarians.

01:24:14.260 It threw me off.

01:24:15.240 I was just like, the Tartars?

01:24:16.460 What?

01:24:17.680 The steppe people?

01:24:18.740 I can't believe it's fake black history.

01:24:23.640 Captain Charlie the Beagle says, regarding the white farmers in South Africa, but I was

01:24:27.600 told by Fraser Nelson that if you were born in a country, you are no different to the natives,

01:24:32.660 if so, South Africa's government are persecuting minority communities and should be condemned.

01:24:37.300 Yeah, Fraser.

01:24:38.220 Condemn the ANC.

01:24:40.080 You've heard it here first.

01:24:41.060 You won't.

01:24:42.340 Okay.

01:24:42.980 Okay.

01:24:43.340 A few comments from my one.

01:24:46.140 Let me clear on this.

01:24:46.920 Okay.

01:24:47.140 Alpha of the Beta says, the satanic verses is akin to Monty Python's life of Brian, a very

01:24:52.160 English absurdist religious satire.

01:24:54.420 The notable difference is Monty Python mocked the followers of Christ for being unchristian.

01:24:59.180 The satanic verses mocked Mohammed as a dishonourable, self-serving liar.

01:25:05.260 Right?

01:25:05.740 Yeah.

01:25:07.420 So it's a much worse punishment.

01:25:10.940 Okay.

01:25:11.560 Baron von Warhawk said, it is a sad day when the creators of South Park have more moral

01:25:17.140 backbone than the Pope and the Archbishop of Canterbury when it comes to Islamic terror.

01:25:22.880 Yeah.

01:25:23.060 I think South Park have actually depicted Mohammed.

01:25:25.620 They have.

01:25:26.000 Well, they tried to, or they did in the original edit, but then Comedy Network at the last minute

01:25:30.820 forced them to black it off.

01:25:31.640 Oh, yeah, because Comedy Network said, we don't want to be murdered.

01:25:34.880 We don't want to get Charlie Hebdo.

01:25:36.280 That's an understandable fit.

01:25:37.780 Bloody liberals.

01:25:39.200 Don't want to be murdered.

01:25:40.660 Soft and flabby liberals.

01:25:42.320 A somewhere person says, the Rushdie Fatwa was for effectively writing a what-if style novel.

01:25:48.280 And I can't help but think that the UK government of today would either arrest him or hand him

01:25:52.800 over to Iran rather than protect him.

01:25:55.600 I'm very disappointed Le Carrier sided with the Ayatollah, especially given his background

01:26:00.920 and the subject matter of his novels.

01:26:03.180 It would be like saying he deserved it if the KGB came after him for making them seem incompetent

01:26:11.600 or because his cover was blown by the Cambridge Five.

01:26:14.660 Right, yeah.

01:26:15.680 John Le Carrier wrote lots of espionage.

01:26:17.620 He wrote Tinker Tate of the Soul.

01:26:19.220 I'm surprised as well that Hugh Trevor Roper decided to come in and be like, oh, it's terrible.

01:26:24.260 But, you know, he basically brought it on himself.

01:26:27.460 Why would you say that?

01:26:29.700 Well, very, very eminent historian, but also like that Evans guy.

01:26:34.780 What, Richard Che Evans?

01:26:35.940 Like Richard Evans.

01:26:36.780 My favourite historian.

01:26:38.400 A court historian.

01:26:40.060 A court historian.

01:26:41.520 So he will toe the line.

01:26:43.460 Yeah.

01:26:43.820 That's a bit like what Hugh Trevor Roper.

01:26:45.500 I mean, Hugh Trevor Roper was embarrassed ultimately, wasn't he?

01:26:49.020 Because there was this fake set of Hitler diaries.

01:26:52.340 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:26:53.200 And he put his reputation on the line saying they're real.

01:26:55.880 And then they were shown scientifically that they could not be real.

01:26:59.540 Yeah.

01:26:59.900 And then other historians, which we shouldn't name, had been able to just flip through them

01:27:03.300 and say, no, none of this makes sense and the dates don't add up.

01:27:05.740 So this isn't real.

01:27:06.960 Or just scientifically, though, like this ink didn't exist in the 40s or whatever.

01:27:11.060 Or this paper, whatever it was, did not exist then.

01:27:13.520 So it cannot be authentic.

01:27:15.780 Anyway, he was shown to be, got embarrassed a bit, Hugh Trevor Roper in the end.

01:27:19.380 But anyway.

01:27:19.680 Well, that is all we've got time for.

01:27:22.460 I hope you enjoyed it.

01:27:24.240 Make sure to tune in same time again tomorrow.

01:27:27.360 You know what to do once you're done watching.

01:27:30.940 But thank you and goodbye.

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - February 27, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1110

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