The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1112

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for the 3rd of March 2025.

00:00:04.700 For some reason I've got in the notes doc, it's 2024, so apparently I don't even know the year.

00:00:09.320 I am Josh and I am joined by the Stelios.

00:00:13.680 Hello everyone.

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00:00:19.640 Yeah, exactly.

00:00:20.840 And today we're talking about Trump and Zelensky's meeting, also features J.D. Vance, of course.

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00:00:53.960 Exactly, yeah. And there's a really deep analogy, as you said, with cultural issues because they are recreating a traditional of excellence and cultural excelsior.

00:01:07.620 That's right. They're bringing in all of their microscopes and engineering equipment, aren't they?

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00:01:23.780 Right. So I suppose we're going to talk about the meeting that happened last Friday between Trump and Zelensky at the Oval Office and how it went south and what happened afterwards.

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00:02:30.440 Right.

00:02:30.880 So, I think, I want the war to end.

00:02:35.940 I want the war in Ukraine to end.

00:02:37.160 Do I?

00:02:37.660 Yes.

00:02:38.100 Obviously, the question is, what are the terms according to which it's going to end?

00:02:42.040 But I think that what is interesting now is that right now we're on the show period.

00:02:47.720 I think that right now a lot of things are going to get much, much worse before they get better.

00:02:52.360 And I've said also in previous segments I have been on when it comes to Ukraine, I think right now there may also be an escalation in violence at some point.

00:03:01.980 Because normally the way things go in war, as far as I understand, obviously I've never fought in one, but just from my knowledge of them, things tend to escalate right until the day in which a ceasefire or peace agreement is signed.

00:03:15.720 And because you want to get the best terms for, you know, the peace agreement, right?

00:03:22.840 Exactly.

00:03:23.520 And so it seems like it's going to follow that trend.

00:03:26.880 Exactly.

00:03:27.320 Because, I mean, it's difficult when you want to stop the war and end the war, you're going to something that's called, I think, an antebellum balance.

00:03:36.280 You can't go back to where it was in the beginning.

00:03:38.720 You have to strike a new balance of power and find exactly where to draw the borders.

00:03:43.900 So one of the things that, for instance, the Ukrainians would want right now is to escalate their effort in order to have more carrots on the table in exchange for an end negotiation.

00:03:56.860 That seems to be a pretty standard, well, you know, it's not even a partisan view that that's the sort of natural course of things.

00:04:04.720 Everyone's sort of saying that that's going to happen.

00:04:06.600 Exactly. Right. And I think we should definitely say that a lot of the speech acts involved in the rhetoric of politicians, wherever they are from, is, I think, more an expression of resolution than something to be taken literally as either true or false.

00:04:25.740 That's very true. I think that there's been a lot of posturing and I imagine that a lot of what people are saying publicly just around the world about the conflict is more about image than it is about substance necessarily.

00:04:40.880 Yes.

00:04:41.180 It could be in some cases, but as a general rule, people are trying to get themselves in the correct position.

00:04:48.080 But I think also this extends to politicians because they are trying to increase their power in order for the next negotiation table, let's say.

00:05:00.540 So I think a lot of people understand this when it comes to Trump, that he isn't always veridical.

00:05:08.080 A lot of the times he's just recognizing the field, but they don't recognize it to other leaders, whether they agree with them or not.

00:05:15.580 So I think the Europeans, for instance, are doing just that at the moment.

00:05:20.080 They're also expressing resolution, not necessarily something that is true or false.

00:05:25.140 Right. So we have some context before the meeting.

00:05:28.520 We have here Trump in the 18th of February saying at the end that you shouldn't have started the war, implying Ukraine.

00:05:38.500 And then we had another case of doublespeak coming from Trump.

00:05:43.600 On the one hand, he said Zelensky is a dictator.

00:05:48.480 And on the other, when it came in front of Keir Starmer, he said, did I say this?

00:05:52.980 I can't believe I said that.

00:05:54.240 But you see, I'm not saying this in order to say, well, here's an obvious contradiction, because it is.

00:06:01.620 But I'm trying to say that this is a case of language where it's used in order to express resolution.

00:06:08.880 On the one hand, he wants to pressure Zelensky in order to say, listen, my eye is on you and you need to make concessions.

00:06:17.240 On the other, maybe he heard something, maybe he talked something with Keir Starmer.

00:06:22.820 I would be very surprised if Keir Starmer had an insight that changed Trump's mind.

00:06:28.460 Keir Starmer, who doesn't dream, doesn't have a favorite book or film, has a novel insight that opened his eyes to this new perspective.

00:06:36.480 You never know, Josh.

00:06:37.780 It's possible.

00:06:38.580 What I will say is that optics matter.

00:06:40.740 And I think that this is going to be the main aspect of our segment.

00:06:45.240 And I really think Keir Starmer could have sat, could have used a better posture to sit with this.

00:06:52.020 He came across as very weak, didn't he, when he met Trump, Starmer.

00:06:55.960 I know that's not what we're talking about, but still, he was trying to fawn all over him as well.

00:07:01.660 You could see that Trump was the man who held all the cards there.

00:07:04.340 Yes.

00:07:04.620 I mean, we have to put the criticism of Starmer in the segment somehow.

00:07:09.740 It's obligatory at this point, isn't it?

00:07:12.180 Right.

00:07:12.580 And also, one of the main contextual factors here was the U.S.-Ukraine minerals deal.

00:07:23.520 Because Zelensky knew that he was going to talk about the minerals deal with Trump, and Trump also knew that he was going to talk about it.

00:07:31.860 You're going to talk a little bit more about this, because there is something I would like to point out about this, that I've been thinking about this.

00:07:38.200 And obviously, Trump's doing this from the perspective of a lot of Republicans are rightfully annoyed that a lot of money has gone for the defense of a foreign country when it could be going to America.

00:07:48.300 I entirely understand that I would feel the same, and I do, in fact, because Britain has done the same thing.

00:07:55.260 And so Trump going and getting something in return, which is this minerals deal, helps sort of placate some of the concerns, even though it would be better that all of the taxpayers got their money back.

00:08:07.280 But this is serving that purpose for them.

00:08:11.360 But for the Ukrainians, what people have perhaps overlooked more so is that what they get in return is that U.S. contractors, U.S. citizens, are going to be in Ukraine doing the mineral extraction, right?

00:08:25.640 I would imagine if they're going to be 50 percent U.S. owned, as has been discussed, there's going to be a considerable number of U.S. citizens in Ukraine, which means if Russia then invades again, there's a surprise attack, then there's going to be a lot of additional U.S. casualties.

00:08:44.240 And that's a massive disincentive for the Russians who don't want to provoke an even more, you know, boots on the ground response from the United States because it wouldn't end well for them.

00:08:53.880 Exactly. I think it's actually something that is really sensible. Also, it would be sensible for Zelensky.

00:09:01.680 They're also not in a position, really, after having their country on war footing and being bombed to smithereens to pay back all of their loans because, of course, you know, offering access to the resources directly allows them to sort of mitigate the inability to get all of this capital at such short notice.

00:09:22.100 I'm a bit more cynical than that. And I think that it was always going to come to this.

00:09:27.900 Probably. Yeah. Even if the Democrats were at the moment and the even if they had the administration and the presidency, it would come down to that.

00:09:38.900 Mm hmm. So in one sense or another. Now, I'm not talking about the specific deal and the specific clauses, but it would there would be exchanges.

00:09:48.460 Mm hmm. I mean, when it came to Afghanistan, were there some companies, some of them, I think, had the ties to Donald Rumsfeld that were in surprise that were involved into the into building infrastructure of Afghanistan again.

00:10:04.460 It sounds about right. Yeah. So it was always going to come to this. And I think people who think otherwise would be completely unrealistic, but I don't know about the specifics of the details.

00:10:14.880 But one thing that is really good that you mentioned is that economic entanglement and economic presence and the presence of extended U.S. interests in Ukraine, whether whether they say it or not in the deal would function as a sort of security guarantee.

00:10:32.440 That's exactly it, isn't it? And it's sort of a softer way of, you know, rather than the U.S. having troops stationed in Ukraine of the United States saying, hey, Ukraine's not our protection now.

00:10:45.600 And I think that it's not so much Trump as much as some of the lobbies behind him.

00:10:51.520 And I've said so also in another segment we did when we were discussing about Greenland and Canada and not many people liked it.

00:10:59.740 But there are the tech bros who want access to rare minerals for tech industry products.

00:11:06.840 Yeah.

00:11:07.440 For them being more competitive on a global scale.

00:11:09.600 We're going to see some more U.S. intervention. I can't speak today.

00:11:15.940 So maybe they're going to get involved in the Congo because there's lots of rare earth minerals there as well.

00:11:20.280 And there's a conflict going on at the minute. So you never know.

00:11:23.500 Yeah.

00:11:23.600 Called it here first.

00:11:24.920 Right. So according to the BBC, the terms of the deal were as follows.

00:11:28.400 The preliminary agreement envisages that an investment fund will be set up for Ukraine's reconstruction.

00:11:35.980 And they said that according to the deal, Ukraine will contribute 50 percent of future proceeds from state-owned mineral resources, oil and gas to the fund.

00:11:46.100 And the fund will then invest to promote the safety, security and prosperity of Ukraine.

00:11:50.400 I think whether directly or indirectly, that that was what it was going to come down to.

00:11:56.640 So I think at the end of the day, what they're discussing is the percentage.

00:12:01.800 Most probably Zelensky doesn't want to give 50 once less.

00:12:05.880 And most probably.

00:12:06.660 He'd rather zero, wouldn't he?

00:12:08.200 He would rather zero, but also.

00:12:09.980 Well, actually, having the U.S. presence there is useful.

00:12:12.500 So zero, maybe not, but a small percentage.

00:12:14.960 Yes. But also, I think at the end of the day, it wouldn't just be the percentage for him.

00:12:20.420 That matters.

00:12:21.140 But he would, as he has been explicit about, he would also want to have further stuff in, like, for instance, entrance into NATO.

00:12:31.120 As he has said, and I'll show you, he said that I will resign if we go to I will step down if we enter NATO.

00:12:38.780 So he it's understandable.

00:12:41.120 He goes maximalist.

00:12:42.420 He asks for as much as possible as he can.

00:12:45.320 That's known as the art of the deal.

00:12:47.560 Yes.

00:12:48.880 Right.

00:12:49.420 So here we have some some things about the meeting.

00:12:53.280 First of all, I don't think it should be televised.

00:12:55.420 That's me.

00:12:56.180 I don't think diplomacy should be televised in such a way.

00:13:00.280 I know what you think about it.

00:13:02.400 It doesn't make for productive conversation, does it, really?

00:13:06.860 If you've got a number of people stood around with microphones, boom, you know, boom mics, cameras, it sort of makes it all for show, doesn't it?

00:13:16.720 Which a lot of the discourse around this has already been.

00:13:20.960 Yes.

00:13:21.140 And I think optically it didn't help because what happened was, for instance, it emboldened Zelensky with the Europeans.

00:13:29.740 And also, I don't think optically this is a good image to portray within the Western camp.

00:13:34.920 Yeah, I think that from, you know, both sides can go away from this conversation feeling like it could have gone better.

00:13:43.500 I think that's fair to say.

00:13:45.480 Things that, you know, Zelensky wants to look as if he's buddy-buddy with the US because if it looks like the US has got Ukraine's back, then he's got a better position in Ukraine against the Russians.

00:13:58.640 And, of course, you don't want to see this rift between the US and the continent of Europe because a lot of the Europeans have just unequivocally backed Zelensky, whereas Trump has been a lot more critical, which I understand from his position.

00:14:15.780 Yes, but I will say this, and this is an unpopular take or something, but I think that the more eagerness is shown to end the war, the more the war is going to be prolonged.

00:14:26.020 No, I'm a big believer into the peace through strength narrative, and whether it's in more Reaganite form, if you want to put it, yes, that's my view.

00:14:36.640 If you go to your enemy after talking for a long time how much you want peace and how the war is not going well for you, you're not exactly going to the table of, you know, the best deck of cards to, you know, the best hand.

00:14:48.880 But also the point is, I think that it's not a good idea to show excessive eagerness to end the conflict and be way more eager than the people who are fighting in it.

00:15:00.880 I think you should be, they should come to ask you to stop it.

00:15:08.580 You shouldn't project that, no, I want to end this because I can't sustain it.

00:15:14.200 It could be the case that it's unsustainable.

00:15:17.900 But as I said in the beginning, rhetoric is expression of resolution, and it has nothing to do with truth and falsity in geopolitics.

00:15:28.380 That's why I'm saying that this, the more it's televised and the more it shows a rift within this camp of allies, and for the time being they are allies, the more it shows excessive eagerness.

00:15:41.580 No, I do agree.

00:15:43.340 That doesn't help.

00:15:44.400 The best way to keep peace is to be strong.

00:15:47.900 Weakness brings about war, doesn't it?

00:15:49.700 That's one of the sort of truisms of all of humanity.

00:15:54.060 And by showing a form of weakness, what they're doing is potentially, and you know, I think there's probably blame on both Zelensky and Trump and Vance's behalf.

00:16:04.980 Maybe not proportionate, but there's an imbalance there.

00:16:08.340 But I think that both sides could have behaved more tactfully that had things gone slightly differently, it probably would have been a much better resolution for both sides.

00:16:18.740 To be honest, I think this was going to happen, and probably it will happen again.

00:16:23.940 It will happen many times, and it may have happened many times.

00:16:27.260 It's just that right now, because it's televised, it adds pressure into the mix.

00:16:34.280 That's true.

00:16:35.540 Right.

00:16:35.800 So, yeah, what I wanted to show here is that I don't think that why don't you wear a suit is a serious question.

00:16:42.800 Honestly.

00:16:43.440 Sorry, I don't think it's a serious question, because this is a choice by wartime leaders to convey a sense of a situation being a situation of emergency.

00:16:55.420 And the same happens here with Winston Churchill in 1942, or 43.

00:17:01.560 It's just, it happens.

00:17:04.720 He's doing it to convey a message, and I think that they knew why he's not wearing a suit.

00:17:10.440 It's a choice of image, and it's not like it's a surprise.

00:17:13.580 Like, if he turned up in, like, a tracksuit after wearing a suit the entire time, maybe it'd be fair to say, hang on a minute, are you turning up scruffy?

00:17:21.200 If you invite Zelensky in, it's fair to assume that he's going to turn up like that, I suppose.

00:17:27.800 Right, and here we have the, for anyone who wants to see, I think you may have watched it a thousand times by now, we have the video of the shouting match between Zelensky and Trump.

00:17:36.860 And I want to say that if we look at the whole clip, I think the first 40 minutes were relatively okay-ish.

00:17:43.360 Yeah, we're fine, yeah.

00:17:44.120 Yes, and I think that at some point there was some tension, which was understandable, and there was tension also in the first 40 minutes.

00:17:53.680 But I think that at the end of the day, most probably what was going on is that Trump and Vance decided that they should play good cup and bad cup.

00:18:03.240 And because they are adding pressure to Zelensky, maybe because they want him to stop asking for NATO entry, or maybe because they want to take more into the minerals deal.

00:18:16.220 Yeah, I don't think Ukraine joining NATO would necessarily be a good idea.

00:18:20.960 Well, most probably that's what's happened.

00:18:23.180 So now they're playing tug of war, and yeah, that's basically it.

00:18:28.740 That's what happened.

00:18:30.280 And my guess is that they're going to continue doing this.

00:18:34.380 Right, so Zelensky, here we have the contrast in body language, as they said, with Vance and Rubio.

00:18:39.660 Why does Marco Rubio look like that?

00:18:42.300 I don't know.

00:18:42.860 I think that was in the beginning when it was the question about the suit.

00:18:47.080 You see here, Marco Rubio is particularly happy.

00:18:49.320 But generally speaking, Marco Rubio wasn't happy because he's also the foreign relations minister.

00:18:54.420 So most of the work is going to fall on his shoulders.

00:19:00.480 That's true.

00:19:01.200 He's literally saying, guys, all of you are adding work.

00:19:05.040 He's watching his own workload go up in real time, and that's why he's grumpy.

00:19:09.800 Okay, fair enough.

00:19:10.540 To be fair here to Zelensky, when again, that's going to be a bit unpopular, I didn't see him as much disrespectful here, to be honest.

00:19:22.280 It's something that I would definitely expect from someone who is a wartime president.

00:19:28.960 And also, MAGA is supposed to be in favor of direct, hard, no-nonsense talking. 0.67

00:19:35.100 So I didn't consider him to be particularly disrespectful.

00:19:38.820 I think I can understand why people would go away from looking at it and think that he was being disrespectful.

00:19:46.580 But I think also, there's an element of, he's talking in a second language.

00:19:50.980 And you can hear in how he articulates himself that he's not as fluent as you would like.

00:19:57.600 And I'm not necessarily putting it down to that, but there's sort of a language barrier.

00:20:02.000 He's also turned up not in a suit like everyone else.

00:20:04.640 He's sort of the odd one out.

00:20:06.020 There are lots of things that sort of add up to give this perception of, is he disrespecting everyone around him?

00:20:10.900 Because he's standing out so much, isn't he, relative to everyone in the room?

00:20:16.240 And also the fact that it's something that Zelensky brings up that sort of ignites the tension, if you will.

00:20:24.400 Well, yeah, I mean, it's polarization, yes.

00:20:27.000 But also, I think it's not an issue of the suit.

00:20:30.000 I think that was more like a, you know, just...

00:20:32.120 It's just a jab, wasn't it?

00:20:33.200 It was nothing too deep to it.

00:20:35.220 That was a jab.

00:20:35.780 I think that what was the issue that they started, it was his exchange with Vance.

00:20:42.280 And Vance was saying essentially stuff that Zelensky told him, this is Russian propaganda.

00:20:48.440 I think that was the main thing.

00:20:50.880 And then Vance started telling him that you're disrespectful and whether you've said things...

00:20:56.960 It is a little bit insulting to say you're just spewing Russian propaganda when he's the one in the Oval Office.

00:21:03.640 I can see why Vance got his back up.

00:21:05.480 But Vance also has to behave a bit more tactfully, specifically when, you know, you can pull out soundbites

00:21:12.340 and the left-wing media is going to parade it around saying, look at what they're doing.

00:21:16.400 They're jeopardizing the deal.

00:21:17.420 And I don't think that that's actually happened.

00:21:19.300 But you've got to be a little bit more savvy than that.

00:21:22.120 Yeah, I mean, I think fundamentally the worst choice was to televise it.

00:21:26.000 Because I think most probably it's going to happen 10 times more if it hasn't happened yet.

00:21:31.020 If it hasn't happened 10 times, it's negotiations.

00:21:34.520 You are negotiating between people who are fighting.

00:21:38.100 Spirits are going to be high.

00:21:39.700 And the point is that if you're going to televise it, also televise a meeting with Putin.

00:21:46.240 I don't see that happening.

00:21:49.240 Right.

00:21:49.600 So here we have this clip from the White House.

00:21:52.940 Have you said thank you once that they made from Vance?

00:21:55.340 I think this is the one thing where I was just like, OK, that was I can understand why people were a bit upset at Vance for this one,

00:22:03.000 because actually, as much as I question the character of Zelensky and his government,

00:22:09.620 and also I question the amount of money that's gone to his country from, you know, the US, UK, other European countries.

00:22:19.840 He has gone around and repeatedly said that he's grateful for it and the people of Ukraine thank you for it.

00:22:26.380 I've seen it loads.

00:22:27.880 And you've got all the examples already.

00:22:30.520 You presaged what I was saying.

00:22:31.820 And I think that it comes off as being unprepared.

00:22:36.360 So, yeah, I mean, it's the easiest thing you can find is.

00:22:42.040 Also, you don't.

00:22:43.220 I think what J.D. Vance specifically said is you haven't said thank you in this meeting,

00:22:47.380 which makes it sound like he wants him to grovel at his feet, which, you know,

00:22:53.100 I can understand why he might be insistent on that from an optical perspective.

00:22:57.380 But also, I think it's not necessarily the best look.

00:23:01.020 I don't think it is, because the point is that if you televise it, most people are going to view it veridically.

00:23:06.980 Whereas what they're doing is essentially showing each other's throats and say, you know, I'm tough.

00:23:12.820 That's what they're doing.

00:23:14.600 But when they televise, and that's what, from a realistic perspective, that's what they should do.

00:23:21.700 But by it being televised, people are going to look at it in terms of truth or falsity.

00:23:27.940 So that's, I think, what could have been done better.

00:23:30.740 Yes, right.

00:23:31.300 So afterwards, Zelensky left the White House.

00:23:33.600 And here we have Trump saying Zelensky needs to stop talking about putting this and putting that, all negative things.

00:23:42.160 That was, I mean.

00:23:44.400 Okay.

00:23:45.340 Okay.

00:23:45.700 We had here Lindsey Graham completely saying I'm proud.

00:23:52.560 I've never been prouder of Trump and Vance.

00:23:55.300 I'm a little bit surprised at Lindsey Graham all of a sudden becoming a cheerleader for them, because he's not exactly known for that.

00:24:03.600 Yeah.

00:24:04.020 But doesn't it, can't it be explained with what I'm saying about statements not being true or false in their minds, but them using statements as expressions of resolution?

00:24:14.640 Yes.

00:24:14.960 Because they could be saying, okay, Trump is going to be the very anti-war.

00:24:21.300 We're going to be the very pro-war. 1.00

00:24:23.020 And we're going to essentially play both sides.

00:24:26.520 That's exactly what's going on.

00:24:27.820 I very much agree.

00:24:28.420 And I think that that's why the idea that it's Zelensky messing up, it's no, it's Trump working with a lot of his Republican colleagues, really.

00:24:41.300 Somehow now Zelensky says, tells BBC that Ukraine, that he's ready to sign the mineral deals with the US.

00:24:50.040 And after that, he went to London, he came to London, he met Keir Starmer.

00:24:55.120 They had an emergency meeting in London with several leaders.

00:25:01.980 Zelensky says, here, I'm exchangeable for NATO.

00:25:05.220 What does that mean, exchangeable?

00:25:07.080 I think I know.

00:25:08.200 It's presidency.

00:25:08.900 Okay.

00:25:09.620 It's more like maximalistic, maximalistic demand.

00:25:15.520 We're at the point.

00:25:17.160 Here he says, he essentially says that Putin is breaking the ceasefires.

00:25:22.460 It's the opposite of what he was being told in the meeting.

00:25:27.280 That's to be expected.

00:25:29.320 Right here.

00:25:29.880 I think Keir Starmer made the biggest, in a sense, non-statement.

00:25:33.840 Because a lot of people are mad at him for saying so.

00:25:38.460 But I think he said, we are ready to put boots on the ground and air on and planes on the air.

00:25:47.900 Planes on the air.

00:25:48.720 Yes, to defend Ukraine.

00:25:51.120 But also he said that the US must be involved.

00:25:54.460 So this basically means, I want to liaise between the two of you.

00:26:00.020 So Keir Starmer, on this sort of thing, a lot of people have been mistaking what's actually going on here.

00:26:06.960 People think that Keir Starmer is saying that we're going to put UK troops in the trenches of Ukraine before there's peace settled.

00:26:13.600 And from what I actually understand, it's more that we're going to send people to guarantee, it's like a security force basically, to guarantee the peace signing and the discussions to just keep the country safe whilst there are negotiations and no war going on.

00:26:31.880 So there's got to be a ceasefire before we send troops there.

00:26:35.000 So there's not really, unless something terrible happens, going to be a conflict.

00:26:39.080 And I'm not necessarily saying we should even do that.

00:26:41.980 That's just, it seems like lots of people are misunderstanding what's being proposed or discussed, from what I gather anyway.

00:26:48.580 But it has been unclear, so it's not necessarily unfair to go to that sort of direction.

00:26:56.320 But also, because that's also the theme of the segment, it's not an issue of what Zelensky, Trump, Vance or Starmer are saying.

00:27:04.960 It's an issue of what they imply.

00:27:08.580 It's an expression of resolution.

00:27:10.320 It's just, it's us, we want to, I want to liaise between the two of you.

00:27:14.420 That's what he says.

00:27:15.880 And he actually also said that explicitly afterwards, that he says that he is working with Macron from France in order to create a negotiation deal and then present it to the US.

00:27:27.080 Right.

00:27:27.640 But here he, Zelensky managed to get a 2.26 billion pounds loan.

00:27:34.960 I don't know if you heard that, Josh.

00:27:36.200 I did, yeah.

00:27:37.240 Just a little, a little bit more of my tax money disappearing.

00:27:40.820 Thanks for that.

00:27:41.440 I think people may estimate that this is around 85 pounds per person.

00:27:48.080 That's, that's what I've seen going around, yeah.

00:27:50.260 Yeah.

00:27:50.600 Just some more money out of my bank account when I'm already struggling to make ends meet.

00:27:54.220 Thanks for that.

00:27:55.140 And here we have the European Union hosting an emergency meeting in London.

00:27:58.640 And we have Donald Tusk saying 500 million Europeans are asking 300 million Americans to defend them against 140 million Russians. 0.56

00:28:11.200 Europe today lacks the belief that we are truly a global power.

00:28:15.420 And I mean, I think it's insane that Europe has put itself in that position.

00:28:22.220 To another extent, it has been placed in such a position post-World War II.

00:28:27.640 Yeah, I mean, the American government has deliberately orchestrated this.

00:28:31.840 And I do like the fact that what Trump and Vance are trying to do is give us a little bit more, basically give us a kick up the backside to start sticking up for ourselves.

00:28:44.200 And I think that that's a good direction for us to go in because in many ways, Europe could be one of the major martial powers in the world.

00:28:55.260 And I know that Britain still projects its power beyond its means militarily, but a lot of other European countries don't do a similar thing.

00:29:03.160 And we could still be better.

00:29:04.240 We could still be spending a lot more on our military and getting much better geopolitical positions because of that.

00:29:14.100 Exactly.

00:29:14.720 Right.

00:29:15.620 I completely agree with you.

00:29:17.420 And I do think that Europe needs to put its house in order.

00:29:21.160 Absolutely.

00:29:24.120 Right.

00:29:24.560 I've got a few comments, I believe.

00:29:26.100 Oh, blimey.

00:29:26.700 Quite a few. 0.84

00:29:28.480 I'm just going to die slowly. 0.60

00:29:31.660 Yeah.

00:29:32.340 Bless you, Josh.

00:29:33.260 And please don't die.

00:29:34.680 I'm trying not to.

00:29:36.800 Thank you.

00:29:37.280 It's always nice when you cough and you can taste blood.

00:29:41.340 Very healthy.

00:29:43.780 It's Swindon.

00:29:45.540 Yes, the Swindon air.

00:29:46.980 The Swindon effect.

00:29:51.000 Okay.

00:29:51.880 You all right to read some comments?

00:29:53.280 Yeah, yeah.

00:29:53.600 Okay.

00:29:53.740 Oh, sorry.

00:29:55.240 I scrolled down to the bottom.

00:29:55.940 It's moving.

00:29:56.280 Right.

00:29:56.600 So, Ramble Quaker. 0.99

00:29:59.280 Quaker.

00:29:59.800 Rumble Quaker.

00:30:02.520 You're saying quaker?

00:30:03.880 Yeah.

00:30:05.100 Monday morning, greetings from Las Vegas to a couple of my favorite lotus-eating gents. 1.00

00:30:10.680 Josh, you still had me at Goblins.

00:30:12.760 Well, thank you very much.

00:30:13.820 That's very kind of you.

00:30:14.520 Bold Eagle, 1788, 87.

00:30:17.520 Zelensky has zero intention of signing the deal.

00:30:20.360 He has backed out three times already at the last second.

00:30:22.880 At this point, the US should just walk away and make a deal with the future government of Ukraine.

00:30:27.960 I think, essentially, that's what both sides are trying to say that it's going to happen.

00:30:35.080 Not necessarily that it will, but both sides make maximalistic demands.

00:30:40.300 Right.

00:30:41.860 The engaged few says, Vance should have said, go back to the Lollipop Guild.

00:30:47.660 The engaged few says, gosh, I think a man could be forgiven for thinking that Miss Lindsay's change of heart is explained by his 2026 Senate re-election.

00:31:01.080 That's true.

00:31:02.180 Fair point.

00:31:04.100 Right. 0.75

00:31:05.400 By Ziran X, Lindsay Graham is a snake. 0.99

00:31:08.880 He does play both sides.

00:31:10.240 Him calling for Zelensky to resign after he was installed is to goad Zelensky's ego.

00:31:16.280 It doesn't matter as world leaders insist on the conflict.

00:31:21.060 Conor's smug mug.

00:31:23.260 The whole thing started with Zelensky bringing up Crimea.

00:31:27.440 Look at the around the 14th minute and Bold Eagle, 1787.

00:31:33.120 VP Vance was wanting a thank you for the American people.

00:31:36.520 Zelensky only thanked the people who gave him thanks, i.e. the politicians and bureaucrats, never the citizens who paid the taxes for everything.

00:31:44.020 It's very true.

00:31:47.260 Yeah, I should have talked about that.

00:31:50.080 Someone in the chat saying...

00:31:51.600 To be honest, I think he said and the people, but it's just a publicity thing.

00:31:57.400 It was a weird question from Vance to ask because he had easy answers to give.

00:32:08.360 So, I hope you've all got your 2025 bingo cards out because one of the things that I imagine many of you didn't mark down is a social trend of people throwing out Roman salutes.

00:32:22.960 And if you know what a Roman salute is, there's a mid-century Austrian painter that was quite the enthusiast of them.

00:32:33.260 But talking about social trends that are storming the globe, Island Magazine is out now.

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00:32:42.160 You know, you can see that Rory didn't get turned down from art school.

00:32:47.500 And there's some lovely sort of neo-medieval artistry in this particular edition.

00:32:53.200 Some great articles from lots of our favourite guests.

00:32:58.080 Very insightful stuff.

00:32:58.980 I'm looking forward to actually reading some of it.

00:33:01.480 This is on the store for a limited time.

00:33:03.300 So, if you want to get number three, it'll only be in the store for a while.

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00:33:10.540 It's just beautiful.

00:33:11.520 It'll look lovely on your bookcase.

00:33:13.940 And you'll definitely want to pick one of those up.

00:33:15.920 But with that out of the way, I suppose let's go to the saluting, shall we?

00:33:23.540 Of course, this is what kicked it off.

00:33:26.460 Trendsetter that is Elon Musk did the thing where he said,

00:33:29.580 my heart goes out to you.

00:33:30.600 I'm not going to copy what he did.

00:33:33.700 But I think he was just sort of worked up in an autistic frenzy. 1.00

00:33:38.460 And he was really excited.

00:33:40.180 He was like jumping around the stage and he was just trying to show he's grateful.

00:33:44.140 Like, my heart goes out to you.

00:33:45.200 And he's going like this, touching his heart and then trying to signal to everyone around him,

00:33:50.500 like, it's going out to you people.

00:33:52.060 And then he didn't realise how it looks.

00:33:54.320 Josh, I think, is it good to say that we, myself and the audience, occupy a special place in your heart?

00:34:04.420 You do.

00:34:05.420 But I don't need to use a hand gesture to tell you.

00:34:08.920 Just my mere presence alone radiates my gratitude to you all.

00:34:13.800 Thank you.

00:34:14.180 That sounds really sarcastic.

00:34:16.340 Now, I do actually mean that, by the way.

00:34:18.000 The ADL, of all people, even they came out and said,

00:34:22.960 you know what, actually, I don't think Elon Musk is a Nazi.

00:34:28.620 They say, this is a delicate moment.

00:34:30.600 It's a new day.

00:34:31.200 And yet so many are on edge.

00:34:32.300 Our politics are inflamed and social media only adds to the anxiety.

00:34:35.660 It seems that Elon Musk made an awkward gesture in a moment of enthusiasm.

00:34:39.720 Not a Nazi salute, but again, we appreciate that people are on edge.

00:34:43.580 In this moment, all sides should give one another a bit of grace,

00:34:45.900 perhaps even the benefit of the doubt, and take a breath.

00:34:48.560 This is a new beginning.

00:34:49.420 Let's hope healing and work towards unity in the months and years ahead.

00:34:52.940 Of course, this was back in late January.

00:34:55.920 So it's old news to a certain extent.

00:34:57.540 But I've got to lay the foundation here.

00:35:00.360 So the trend of the salutes makes sense.

00:35:04.360 So this is surprisingly reasonable from the ADL.

00:35:07.480 Dare I say, I actually kind of agree with what they're saying.

00:35:10.520 And I want to sort of quote Starship Troopers and say,

00:35:14.380 it's afraid, it's being nice to the incumbent Trump presidency

00:35:20.340 because they know that they can do damage to them

00:35:22.920 and they've provoked a certain amount of it.

00:35:26.440 And our very own Calvin Robinson, who has his own show on Lotus Eaters,

00:35:31.700 did the same thing here.

00:35:34.960 This one wasn't, this was obviously echoing Elon Musk

00:35:38.740 and he was trying to do it, I think, as a sort of wind-up, I'm guessing.

00:35:45.720 I haven't actually spoke to Calvin about it since,

00:35:48.360 but I know him.

00:35:50.020 I don't think he's actually a national socialist.

00:35:52.140 But it wasn't the most, you know, he didn't put his all in that salute, did he?

00:35:59.180 It was sort of a half-hearted one.

00:36:00.420 He's also smiling here.

00:36:02.620 And also, I really don't think he embraces any kind of such philosophy.

00:36:08.580 He was one of the people who were very pro-Churchill

00:36:12.240 when the issue started with this debate.

00:36:18.020 He did a segment that I was on where we talked about it, yeah.

00:36:20.520 So that's, yeah.

00:36:22.320 And I've seen people like Richard Hanania, the weasel himself, saying,

00:36:28.920 priest who thinks it's funny to throw up Nazi salutes, defrocked,

00:36:31.680 now banned from America by the Trump administration.

00:36:34.020 No, I think it's because he was there to, you know, service a church.

00:36:42.060 I don't know the technical name.

00:36:44.000 I am very out of touch.

00:36:46.100 But he was there to work in his religious capacity,

00:36:49.040 and because he was defrocked, he lost his right to be in the United States.

00:36:54.800 It wasn't that Trump said, let's get rid of this guy.

00:36:58.220 I think it was more just a bureaucratic thing.

00:37:00.480 But I think also he's working on staying there for the meantime,

00:37:04.600 and it was just a temporary setback.

00:37:08.580 So best of luck with that, Calvin. 1.00

00:37:10.920 And saying, these people are so pathetic, real Nazis should be offended. 0.98

00:37:17.220 But why do you care, Mr. Hanania, exactly? 1.00

00:37:21.700 Well.

00:37:22.920 But also by saying real, he puts real in front of it.

00:37:26.920 But he also says, I don't think he is one.

00:37:31.580 No, of course he's not.

00:37:33.660 And I think everyone can recognize that as well.

00:37:37.240 And then Bannon went on to do the real deal, as in he did a proper one.

00:37:43.980 Here he is, look.

00:37:46.080 And I think that for Bannon, he's in a position where he can get away with it.

00:37:51.520 He's doing it to provoke the media and the left wing classes.

00:37:54.600 Like, he did the proper straight arm.

00:37:56.140 He knows how to do it right.

00:37:57.760 But I think that he's been in the trenches for such a long time.

00:38:00.720 He was imprisoned for his role in politics.

00:38:04.120 He's on the war path.

00:38:05.120 He's going to do anything to provoke a reaction from the people who he hates.

00:38:08.760 Like, when he came out of prison, you could tell he was out for blood.

00:38:12.500 And he's just out to cause mayhem.

00:38:15.400 So each person seems to have a different motivation for doing it.

00:38:18.740 Elon Musk was trying to express love.

00:38:21.360 Calvin was trying to, you know, perhaps agitate a few people, show a bit of solidarity to Elon Musk, perhaps.

00:38:28.940 And Bannon was doing it.

00:38:29.880 We all need to, Elon Musk needs our help.

00:38:32.980 And then Bannon, I think, was doing it to wind up the people who targeted him and tried to ruin his life.

00:38:40.920 Which I can understand.

00:38:42.500 But none of them, I think, are serious in their belief of the tenets of national socialism.

00:38:49.220 I think that's fair to say.

00:38:51.060 And then, I didn't know about this one until I was preparing.

00:38:53.280 A Mexican actor at CPAC called Eduardo Verastegui.

00:38:58.800 I don't know.

00:38:59.700 But he did one too.

00:39:01.320 Here he is.

00:39:03.540 The funny thing is, most modern day, he did the heart goes out to you thing again, didn't he?

00:39:10.140 And he was deliberately copying the Elon Musk thing.

00:39:13.560 So it seems like it's just...

00:39:15.480 And copying Trump afterwards.

00:39:17.040 But I think there's a trend in Mexico, isn't there?

00:39:24.160 Whenever there's someone who's a Nazi online and their identity gets revealed, they're often a Mexican.

00:39:30.420 I don't know what it is about Mexico and national socialism.

00:39:34.300 Yeah.

00:39:35.020 I didn't know that.

00:39:36.540 The funny thing is, as well, loads of, you know, followers of Nick Fuentes, the so-called Groypers.

00:39:42.460 Lots of Mexicans there. 0.99

00:39:43.580 Of course, Nick Fuentes being Mexican himself.

00:39:45.680 It doesn't help.

00:39:47.780 But it's just amusing, that intersect.

00:39:51.220 So Mexicans, we know them to be, you know, more genuine enthusiasts of their Austrian painter friend.

00:39:59.080 For whatever reason, I don't know what it is.

00:40:01.440 Maybe tacos make you, you know, like national socialism.

00:40:05.860 I don't think they do, because I absolutely love tacos.

00:40:09.860 Okay, maybe not.

00:40:10.960 So, I think it's fair to say by this point, everyone and their dog has been doing these salutes.

00:40:17.080 And in fact, people have spotted a dog doing the salute, a statue of a dog.

00:40:21.440 Here it is, you know, clearly a Nazi dog.

00:40:26.680 It didn't, this post didn't go very far, but I thought it was funny.

00:40:30.960 So I've included it anyway.

00:40:32.780 But another person, someone who lives in Romania.

00:40:37.920 You could think maybe a sort of Ceausescu-like figure, controversial.

00:40:42.700 Oh no, it's Tristan Tate.

00:40:44.660 But it looks like everyone was saying he did a Nazi salute.

00:40:48.540 I think he was just waving as he was getting on a plane.

00:40:51.100 I'm not a fan.

00:40:52.320 No, nor am I.

00:40:52.800 But that doesn't seem like one.

00:40:54.200 It seems like a wave to me.

00:40:55.400 Come on.

00:40:55.980 It seems like a wave.

00:40:57.460 And then, this is one that you put me on to, Stelios.

00:41:01.000 Yes.

00:41:02.720 Who is a Romanian guy called Georgescu.

00:41:06.660 That seemed like a real one to me.

00:41:08.520 He also won the elections.

00:41:09.920 He's just a random guy.

00:41:11.640 He won the elections, did he?

00:41:12.940 Yeah.

00:41:13.120 Is he the, I don't follow Romanian politics.

00:41:15.660 Is he the guy who the EU sort of astroturfed in?

00:41:18.800 Yeah, so the allegation is that he is a Putin puppet and thousands of euros have been found in the houses of his bodyguards.

00:41:29.520 Okay.

00:41:29.900 That's the late thing.

00:41:31.960 But before they were, yes, I mean, there has been serious issue in the democratic thing.

00:41:43.080 A lot of, some Romanian friends I have tell me that he is a bit, he says some really weird things.

00:41:51.700 Like talking about telepathy and about the Dacians. 0.98

00:41:55.080 But still, an election is an election.

00:41:57.180 Mm-hmm.

00:41:58.140 Exactly.

00:41:58.520 No, no, no.

00:42:00.180 I'm not absorbing the responsibility on this.

00:42:04.860 So I don't mean to alarm any Americans, particularly if you live in New York, but there is a prominent Nazi in New York.

00:42:12.800 Here we go.

00:42:15.260 This, this, yeah, as Jared Taylor points out here.

00:42:17.860 Send me your moustaches.

00:42:20.320 There's a great big statue, you know, they might be holding a torch, but you know what, you know, those people at Charlottesville were holding, they were holding torches.

00:42:28.580 And you know what they were, you know, you wouldn't, the media wouldn't lie to you about that, would they?

00:42:32.340 And is it, is it brown if you scratch it, the statue?

00:42:37.260 Is it a brown shirt?

00:42:40.880 Maybe.

00:42:41.620 It's entirely possible.

00:42:43.100 It's a big cover-up.

00:42:44.240 But another example here, Kamala Harris, you know, it's worth pointing out that Tim Waltz also did the same thing.

00:42:54.540 It's just so popular these days.

00:42:56.600 It's the, and also lots of, lots of, yeah, lots of Democrats have done it.

00:43:01.160 But, yeah, it's sort of an inane conversation at this point, because anyone can freeze frame something and find someone doing this arm gesture if they are a public speaker.

00:43:12.540 There are lots of reasons you could do this.

00:43:15.280 And it's such a boring and sort of inane bit of political commentary to be like, the Democrats do it too.

00:43:23.740 Who, oh, who cares?

00:43:26.520 But also in Britain, Jeremy Corbyn, that looks like a proper one, to be fair.

00:43:31.160 This is a, you know, the trend has crossed the Atlantic now.

00:43:36.160 And he looks ecstatic.

00:43:38.080 He does.

00:43:38.940 He's a very happy Nazi. 0.98

00:43:41.880 Also, British so-called comedian Jonathan Pye, as Kyle points out, has done it ironically before, outside of a court.

00:43:51.840 Obviously, doing it as satire doesn't mean you agree with the thing.

00:43:57.440 And I think everyone understands that, don't they?

00:43:59.700 I'm sure the left understands context, don't they?

00:44:02.020 That's definitely true.

00:44:03.100 But here's a real one.

00:44:07.200 This was in Italy.

00:44:08.740 And this was for, was it the great, yeah, great grandson of Benito Mussolini.

00:44:14.940 And when he scored, all of the crowd did the salute.

00:44:19.660 I think these Italians probably know how to do it, don't they? 1.00

00:44:23.280 There they are.

00:44:24.220 But they were sort of doing it in a tongue-in-cheek way, weren't they?

00:44:27.600 For a bit of fun.

00:44:28.280 I don't think every single person who did that there, secretly, some sort of mid-century German enthusiast or fascist.

00:44:36.460 Though the Italians are a lot more unapologetic about their history than the Germans are.

00:44:41.620 And in fact, you know, it's pretty normal for people to say, yeah, I joined the, I don't want to say that because it's going to get cropped out of context.

00:44:48.420 But an Italian will say, I joined the fascist party. 0.54

00:44:51.820 I said it anyway, who cares?

00:44:54.880 And it will be like a run-of-the-mill thing.

00:44:56.800 And it's just like, yeah, I went for a run the other day.

00:44:59.600 But there's also people talking, this is a very long and boring thing, but apparently teachers are now worried about children doing it as well.

00:45:11.240 And they're saying that there was a child pointing in their class and they were worried that they were actually trying to do a Nazi salute.

00:45:18.800 But they changed it to a point when they turned around.

00:45:21.040 And this level of paranoia about young children is absolute madness.

00:45:27.440 You can see this sort of neuroticism of these left-wing people.

00:45:32.100 And the thing I do want to read is, social studies teacher here, I shut that down immediately.

00:45:37.260 I asked them what they think they're doing.

00:45:38.700 And if they try and play cute and hurt her, then I thoroughly explain exactly what that stands for, what Hitler and the SS did, how many people, Jews, LGBTQ, Romani, Eastern Europeans and other minorities were killed just for existing.

00:45:52.640 I don't think they were killed just for existing, by the way.

00:45:55.980 Then I ask if they want a significant portion of the people they know abducted and most likely killed.

00:46:02.280 That is just child abuse.

00:46:04.440 It's like, if you do, if you put your hand up in a way I don't like, I'm going to say that a significant portion of your family are killed.

00:46:12.620 This person should not be a teacher.

00:46:15.300 I think that's safe to say.

00:46:16.600 I mean, well, the point is, with young people, if you approach them in a very authoritarian way, it's going to have the exact opposite effect.

00:46:28.100 Yeah, just look at me.

00:46:28.720 So, yeah, when, for instance, you see them doing things you don't like or you think that they have a sort of meaning that eludes them, you have to explain it to them.

00:46:42.120 And if you are not the person to explain it to them, then don't explain it to them.

00:46:49.080 Also, you can't be antagonistic.

00:46:51.700 You've got to be patient and forgiving to children.

00:46:55.460 Yes.

00:46:56.200 I don't believe I have to actually say that in this day and age, that, yes, be kind to children.

00:47:04.600 Yeah.

00:47:06.120 Ugh, what a world we live in.

00:47:08.900 How modernity made us soft.

00:47:11.640 Apparently so.

00:47:13.100 And then there's another example of a girl.

00:47:17.320 Oh, this is down below here.

00:47:20.540 But here we are.

00:47:22.800 She did a salute here. 0.99

00:47:24.720 She ran an X account, which posted unironic shills for Hitler. 0.55

00:47:32.440 And then they're just like, we don't believe that's actually you in your profile picture because it showed a girl in the profile picture.

00:47:38.220 And then, because she cares about social media clout, posted a picture of herself doing a salute with the wrong hand as well, by the way.

00:47:46.860 She's not doing it correctly.

00:47:48.140 Typical woman. 1.00

00:47:48.620 Can't even Nazi salute correctly. 0.93

00:47:51.940 Anyway, she posted this and it blew up, obviously, as you would imagine.

00:47:57.280 And then she posted a picture saying that she lost her job. 1.00

00:47:59.740 Which, I mean, on the one hand, I don't think someone should lose their job over being an idiot on the internet. 1.00

00:48:09.080 However, what did you expect? 0.99

00:48:15.220 I'm not excusing it, necessarily.

00:48:17.440 I'm also not a national socialist myself.

00:48:19.700 But eventually, she went on to delete her account.

00:48:22.940 And I'd actually taken lots of links of interesting things to contextualize it.

00:48:29.780 So, the left-wing response was just saying that she looked like Chris Jericho.

00:48:35.400 Which, given that...

00:48:36.640 That's a good post.

00:48:37.820 It did make me laugh.

00:48:39.620 She did annoy me as well.

00:48:40.800 I posted a post just like, she's obviously just doing it for attention. 0.97

00:48:44.520 Because when her ex-account was still there, it was loads of pictures of her, you know, making silly, annoying girl social media faces where they put their lips out. 0.97

00:48:55.820 And, you know, she's posting, like, good morning of her lying in bed.

00:48:59.880 And it's like, you're obviously just fishing for engagement. 1.00

00:49:03.280 You're an attention whore, basically. 1.00

00:49:06.440 And you're... 1.00

00:49:07.520 It's also weird that she's saying she's 19, right?

00:49:10.640 And she's there quoting, like, Alexander Dugan, which we'll get onto in a second.

00:49:17.620 I don't get it.

00:49:19.080 But just to prove that she's grifting, she was bragging about the analytic boost that she got before she deleted the actual account.

00:49:29.680 She's there, like, 2 billion percent increased in impressions.

00:49:33.620 And also, look at the profile picture. 0.99

00:49:36.080 Profile picture of her turning around, poking her arse out. 0.99

00:49:39.140 But we all know she's looking for attention. 0.99

00:49:42.000 It's not about the politics.

00:49:43.600 It's just about...

00:49:44.280 It's not about art or something.

00:49:46.180 It's not about celebrating the human form.

00:49:48.560 Well, she didn't get kicked out of art school.

00:49:51.500 So I'm afraid there's no parallel there.

00:49:55.920 But she was also posting... 0.97

00:49:58.560 Yeah.

00:49:59.000 Can you click and enlarge, make the picture larger?

00:50:04.200 Larger than that?

00:50:05.140 No.

00:50:05.360 Oh, no, no.

00:50:05.860 The account's gone, Stelios.

00:50:07.340 So I can't click on it.

00:50:09.860 But she also posted a link trying to grift to get people to buy energy drinks just to show that people are now noticing this social trend and are just jumping on it for attention and money.

00:50:22.800 I'm not surprised, to be honest.

00:50:25.140 Even though she's trying to LARP as someone involved in politics, I don't believe a 19-year-old girl has actually, you know, been reading the Nazbol texts, has she?

00:50:38.100 Let's be honest.

00:50:38.960 I mean, chances are not.

00:50:40.040 Especially if she behaves like this. 0.99

00:50:41.600 I don't think so.

00:50:43.720 And also, it's worth pointing out she's got a TikTok where she does normal things, like not Nazi salute.

00:50:50.340 I'm not trying to advertise it.

00:50:51.840 Don't go on her profile.

00:50:53.240 TikTok's cancer anyway.

00:50:55.820 Yeah.

00:50:56.540 Don't engage with these people.

00:50:57.720 They're annoying. 0.97

00:50:58.180 But she's doing all the same sort of social media girl things that they all do of posting inane nonsense that nobody cares about. 1.00

00:51:07.400 Also the nails. 0.95

00:51:09.040 Oh, who cares?

00:51:11.080 Bimbo nails are unforgivable. 1.00

00:51:12.620 The funny thing is, I don't understand the draw of social media.

00:51:15.700 Nothing about my life is that interesting even to me, let alone me wanting to share it to other people.

00:51:23.560 It just shows that you've got a massive amount of insecurity and you need some sort of vapid self-affirmation to feel good about yourself.

00:51:32.800 I hate it.

00:51:33.560 Yeah, I think basically she just wants attention. 0.96

00:51:37.200 She tries to find audiences and she, yeah.

00:51:39.840 I feel a little bit bad trashing on a 19-year-old girl who's basically ruined her own life.

00:51:46.760 So it's worth being said, in the grand scheme of things, it's not the end of the world.

00:51:52.420 Who cares, really? 0.99

00:51:53.780 A girl acted silly. 0.99

00:51:54.900 She doesn't deserve her life to be ruined. 0.99

00:51:56.640 I don't think she should deserve her to lose her job.

00:51:59.500 She deserves to have a life and, you know, live a relatively normal existence. 1.00

00:52:04.280 She doesn't deserve to have a know your meme page explaining it all. 0.99

00:52:07.720 But you can see here the original post and all of her, you know, pictures she's posting.

00:52:12.700 I mean, I'm sure she'll find her job somewhere else. 0.89

00:52:17.500 Well, she's not going to get hired by the Daily Wire, but she might be able to find a job elsewhere. 0.67

00:52:23.560 You know, normally riding the tide of popularity.

00:52:28.420 Yeah, that does get people somewhere.

00:52:30.200 As long as they don't mess up, they can turn it into something.

00:52:34.540 But here she is, like, four facts about the world.

00:52:37.060 And the first one that she says, this is not what I think, Nazis were the good guys. 0.97

00:52:44.680 Thank you for that very astute political commentary there, 19-year-old girl.

00:52:49.800 Well, everything we've been told about World War II is a lie.

00:52:54.420 World War II happened.

00:52:56.020 That is a lie.

00:52:57.380 It never happened.

00:52:58.180 It never happened.

00:52:59.520 Some of the other ones I can't read because YouTube...

00:53:02.160 It's a hologram.

00:53:02.700 I mean, I can't read because YouTube will come down hard on us.

00:53:06.920 But it's the usual sort of stuff.

00:53:09.800 You know, it's nothing that people haven't heard before.

00:53:12.920 But it suggests that perhaps she might have been LARPing.

00:53:16.600 It's the whole package.

00:53:18.640 But, yeah, she's a Dugin fan, apparently.

00:53:22.020 That's what the word is on the street, the social media street.

00:53:25.340 And the fact I have to know this sort of stuff just kills me.

00:53:29.340 At 19 years old, she has absorbed Heidegger and the existentialists

00:53:33.040 and also read his interpretation of Heidegger and Eurasianism.

00:53:40.380 Yeah, she's read René Guénon.

00:53:41.880 She's read Evola.

00:53:42.940 She's read Carl Schmitt, Heidegger.

00:53:45.560 She's just a... 1.00

00:53:46.840 She's also... 0.99

00:53:48.560 Yeah, she's the next ideological voice of Eurasianism.

00:53:52.720 This is a little bit distasteful, to be fair.

00:53:56.060 I will say that about my own commentary here,

00:53:58.740 because, you know, a couple of scholars like ourselves,

00:54:01.900 in the actual sense, not in the urban scholar sense.

00:54:06.400 Wait, that's a hit below the belt.

00:54:09.120 You're a scholarly gentleman, Stanley.

00:54:11.300 A gentleman and a scholar.

00:54:12.980 Not so much an engineer.

00:54:14.760 More of a scholar.

00:54:15.700 My PhD...

00:54:16.460 I'm not a doctor in engineering, if that is what you're implying.

00:54:19.860 So, this whole sort of debacle reminds me a little bit of this lady. 0.97

00:54:27.440 Lily.

00:54:28.380 Yes.

00:54:29.180 So, Lily Gaddis, I think her name is.

00:54:33.420 She was basically doing trad wife TikToks, 1.00

00:54:36.940 and then she just casually dropped an N-bomb, 1.00

00:54:39.920 which, to be fair, in the context...

00:54:42.540 And she also used the adjective broke bottom. 1.00

00:54:45.860 Yeah, broke, back-sided urban scholars.

00:54:52.620 I saw that look, Samson.

00:54:53.980 I wasn't going to say it, all right?

00:54:55.360 I'm not going to get us in trouble.

00:54:57.760 But, yeah, that clip went viral,

00:55:00.980 even though she was saying it for comedic effect.

00:55:04.460 And then what she did was,

00:55:06.520 I think she deleted the original video,

00:55:08.540 so TikTok wouldn't come down hard on her,

00:55:10.260 but she didn't apologise.

00:55:13.020 And she's still got a pretty sizable social media following.

00:55:18.920 And posts actually sane takes and good things.

00:55:23.320 Like, I enjoy calling this sort of stuff out.

00:55:27.000 Here she's saying, 1.00

00:55:27.780 influencers are fake and gay, 1.00

00:55:29.120 which is 100% true. 1.00

00:55:31.980 I despise that term and everything that they do and exist.

00:55:36.680 By the way, this border is going to make history.

00:55:38.880 It will.

00:55:40.720 And also, I found this hilarious. 0.99

00:55:43.480 All brown people do is shove their culture down our throats in our country, 1.00

00:55:46.160 and that's Vivek. 0.99

00:55:47.100 And if I scroll down,

00:55:48.700 you can see why she said it.

00:55:52.240 This is unironically good.

00:55:54.120 Good social media posting.

00:55:55.680 This is what I want to see more of.

00:55:57.520 What the previous girl should have done 0.97

00:55:59.380 is not delete her account

00:56:00.720 and do more of this.

00:56:02.300 Because that's funny.

00:56:03.100 You want them to own it.

00:56:04.580 Own it.

00:56:05.820 If you're going to be edgy, own it.

00:56:07.520 That's what I say.

00:56:08.300 Don't apologize.

00:56:10.320 No half-hearted measures.

00:56:11.920 Although, she didn't seem like she was sort of out for a grift 0.95

00:56:15.320 and for attention in the same way.

00:56:17.140 She was doing, like, wholesome things.

00:56:19.160 And maybe people feel differently.

00:56:21.540 I don't know her that well.

00:56:22.880 Like, showing baking stuff.

00:56:24.720 Like, she had an apron.

00:56:25.560 She was in the kitchen where she belongs. 0.99

00:56:27.660 Because the average trad woman 1.00

00:56:29.160 is making TikTok videos of baking.

00:56:31.680 That's true.

00:56:32.500 Of baking.

00:56:34.060 Ideally, no one should be on social media.

00:56:36.980 Including me.

00:56:38.060 I have to do it for my job.

00:56:39.840 But, ideally, it's not good for anyone.

00:56:42.280 Don't go on it at all.

00:56:43.820 Especially don't upload yourself,

00:56:46.180 you know, doing the Roman salute.

00:56:49.720 But, I wanted to go over some thoughts about this sort of thing.

00:56:52.720 Because, I have a question to pose to you, Stelios.

00:56:56.280 And that question is, to chimp or not to chimp?

00:56:59.320 That is the question.

00:57:00.720 And by that I mean,

00:57:01.580 by doing this and winding up the left

00:57:04.940 and making them chimp out, 1.00

00:57:07.860 as in, lose their minds, 0.63

00:57:10.060 is that advantageous or not?

00:57:11.700 Because,

00:57:12.820 winding up the left could be advantageous.

00:57:15.680 Because their freakouts look really bad publicly.

00:57:18.180 And they're funny.

00:57:20.180 I mean, we have a really big archive.

00:57:24.840 We do.

00:57:25.380 Meltdowns.

00:57:26.020 We enjoy it.

00:57:26.620 You know, if someone enjoys a good meltdown,

00:57:29.280 that's me.

00:57:29.660 Stelios is our meltdown connoisseur.

00:57:33.020 And if they act so irrationally,

00:57:35.080 if they're, you know,

00:57:35.920 not able to think straight

00:57:37.100 because they think,

00:57:37.740 oh my goodness,

00:57:38.840 there's,

00:57:39.500 the Nazis are taking over.

00:57:40.640 Look at everyone saluting.

00:57:42.040 And they make a massive political mistake.

00:57:45.200 Then that could be advantageous.

00:57:47.040 But,

00:57:47.560 my personal opinion

00:57:48.660 is that

00:57:49.820 the left will think

00:57:51.280 that it makes their accusations

00:57:52.440 that everyone is a Nazi

00:57:53.580 more true.

00:57:55.760 And,

00:57:56.380 to make things a bit real,

00:57:58.020 I know I've been sort of joking around, 0.90

00:58:00.020 they've already tried to kill Trump 0.79

00:58:01.940 multiple times. 0.99

00:58:03.140 They have killed Trump supporters

00:58:04.840 for just wearing 0.73

00:58:06.560 MAGA hats.

00:58:08.500 Maybe

00:58:08.940 it's good not to paint a target

00:58:10.840 on your back.

00:58:11.740 As much as I hate leftists, 0.87

00:58:13.980 and I really do,

00:58:15.380 you've got to

00:58:17.480 come to terms with the reality

00:58:18.900 that

00:58:19.800 they can still

00:58:21.340 attack you in cowardly ways.

00:58:23.060 It's like the guy, 0.93

00:58:23.800 the Trump supporter

00:58:24.360 that was killed

00:58:24.800 was shot in the back of the head.

00:58:26.160 Didn't even know it was coming.

00:58:28.000 And so,

00:58:29.280 there's a very practical aspect to it

00:58:31.360 of,

00:58:31.580 you don't want to rile them up too much

00:58:32.840 because then

00:58:33.480 it's dangerous for your safety

00:58:35.420 if you publicly show

00:58:37.080 that you support Trump

00:58:38.020 in any way.

00:58:38.940 Which is not an ideal situation.

00:58:40.760 And although that's going away

00:58:41.820 to a certain extent,

00:58:42.780 you don't want this

00:58:43.600 to come back again.

00:58:44.980 Okay,

00:58:45.300 I have three points

00:58:46.600 to make at least.

00:58:48.080 Go ahead.

00:58:48.700 I'll waste no time.

00:58:50.400 So,

00:58:50.840 number one,

00:58:53.160 I think

00:58:53.700 that

00:58:55.540 winding them up

00:58:58.400 is not the issue

00:58:59.280 because they want to be winded.

00:59:01.080 They want to...

00:59:01.880 They want an excuse for it.

00:59:02.820 They want an excuse.

00:59:03.480 They're just looking for an excuse.

00:59:05.140 That's true.

00:59:05.680 If that's not it,

00:59:06.360 they'll find another one.

00:59:08.140 They're a psychology.

00:59:09.660 Number two,

00:59:10.340 it's not an issue

00:59:11.160 of what the left says

00:59:12.260 and what justifies them

00:59:14.740 in saying

00:59:15.360 because

00:59:15.740 they will...

00:59:17.720 They have been saying this

00:59:18.820 regardless.

00:59:19.600 Trend or no trend.

00:59:20.580 They have been saying this

00:59:21.500 regardless.

00:59:22.640 The whole...

00:59:24.160 They try to say

00:59:25.440 if you're left of Mao,

00:59:26.720 you're a fascist. 0.99

00:59:28.140 That's... 0.99

00:59:29.140 In a nutshell what...

00:59:31.280 There's no negotiating

00:59:32.160 with rabid leftists.

00:59:33.960 It's basically...

00:59:35.140 Well,

00:59:35.520 that.

00:59:36.060 Now,

00:59:36.360 on another bit,

00:59:37.780 the third point

00:59:38.680 which takes the left

00:59:40.440 completely out of it.

00:59:41.740 I think

00:59:42.080 it becoming a trend

00:59:43.980 is unfortunate

00:59:44.700 because

00:59:45.700 the point is that

00:59:47.520 when you are

00:59:48.920 in society

00:59:49.820 and you care about society

00:59:52.020 and you want

00:59:52.800 it to not disintegrate

00:59:55.080 into

00:59:55.620 bad situations,

00:59:59.200 there are several signs

01:00:01.020 you look

01:00:01.600 and you see

01:00:03.460 that things

01:00:04.540 are going

01:00:05.200 that way.

01:00:07.160 So,

01:00:07.620 for instance,

01:00:08.500 when people start saying

01:00:09.960 that they want

01:00:11.060 to revise completely

01:00:12.200 everything

01:00:13.200 they say

01:00:13.580 everything you know

01:00:14.240 is wrong,

01:00:15.880 the Austrian painter

01:00:16.980 was the good guy,

01:00:17.920 that's what

01:00:18.260 they try to say,

01:00:19.520 things like that,

01:00:20.140 they function as signs.

01:00:22.180 So,

01:00:23.020 when people start saying

01:00:25.060 Stalin was the good guy,

01:00:27.320 well,

01:00:27.580 alarms go off,

01:00:28.780 don't they?

01:00:29.360 Of course.

01:00:29.760 So,

01:00:30.320 if people started

01:00:31.580 making a trend

01:00:33.660 of saying,

01:00:34.840 well,

01:00:35.040 Stalin was the good guy,

01:00:36.540 Stalin was the good guy,

01:00:37.620 we want to wind up

01:00:39.540 the other ones,

01:00:41.000 you know,

01:00:41.180 the anti-communists,

01:00:42.500 it would be much

01:00:44.220 more difficult

01:00:45.320 to actually

01:00:46.160 sort out

01:00:46.920 the real Stalinists

01:00:48.920 from those

01:00:49.680 who make

01:00:51.020 a joke out of it.

01:00:53.120 So,

01:00:53.520 if everyone started

01:00:54.500 doing it,

01:00:55.460 you wouldn't be able

01:00:56.600 to know

01:00:57.560 when your alarm

01:00:58.380 should go off.

01:00:59.320 So,

01:00:59.480 it's basically

01:00:59.820 signal distortion.

01:01:01.340 If I'm driving

01:01:02.400 and I turn

01:01:03.040 the right flashlight,

01:01:06.020 the indicator,

01:01:06.720 yeah.

01:01:07.320 Yeah,

01:01:07.600 everyone says

01:01:08.380 that this is an indicator,

01:01:09.820 I want to go right.

01:01:10.840 If everyone starts

01:01:12.280 having the right

01:01:14.260 flashlight on,

01:01:16.820 whether they go

01:01:18.220 right or left

01:01:18.880 or forward

01:01:19.700 or reverse,

01:01:21.220 it kind of

01:01:22.640 cancels the signal out.

01:01:23.800 I see what you're saying

01:01:24.620 in that people

01:01:25.640 have got to know

01:01:26.400 where people

01:01:27.640 stand or are going

01:01:29.100 to be able to

01:01:29.980 keep things

01:01:31.000 sort of functioning.

01:01:32.120 Yes,

01:01:32.380 yes.

01:01:33.000 Yeah,

01:01:33.540 yeah,

01:01:33.720 that makes sense.

01:01:34.520 It's more like

01:01:35.240 signal obfuscation

01:01:37.760 and a lot of people

01:01:39.560 want this

01:01:40.200 because they say

01:01:41.060 that,

01:01:41.480 no,

01:01:41.600 I want to completely

01:01:42.420 destroy the narrative

01:01:43.460 that is somehow

01:01:45.680 they loosely associate

01:01:46.960 with our current world.

01:01:49.740 But,

01:01:50.100 yeah,

01:01:50.380 some parts

01:01:51.080 of that narrative

01:01:51.740 are correct.

01:01:52.460 Some are

01:01:52.880 disastrously false

01:01:54.160 and it is

01:01:56.840 complacency

01:01:57.480 to not look at it

01:01:58.400 but some parts

01:01:59.820 are correct.

01:02:00.640 Yeah,

01:02:00.900 my sort of opinion

01:02:01.560 on the history

01:02:02.100 is there's plenty

01:02:03.220 of lies being spun

01:02:04.240 but you shouldn't

01:02:04.740 also throw the baby

01:02:05.600 out of the bath

01:02:06.100 water with some

01:02:07.000 of it,

01:02:07.320 right?

01:02:07.900 It's not that

01:02:08.560 all of history

01:02:09.380 is wrong

01:02:09.860 in its entirety.

01:02:11.040 Everything you know

01:02:11.780 is wrong,

01:02:12.360 Josh. 1.00

01:02:13.080 Damn it. 1.00

01:02:13.640 It's a hologram. 1.00

01:02:14.480 I spent a lot of time

01:02:15.320 knowing things.

01:02:16.740 I need to go back

01:02:17.580 and relearn it all.

01:02:18.340 Another question

01:02:20.020 I wanted to ask,

01:02:20.740 one of the final ones

01:02:21.520 is I think that

01:02:24.100 even though it's

01:02:25.180 controversial

01:02:25.700 and might upset people

01:02:27.060 I still think that

01:02:27.900 you should legally

01:02:28.640 be able to do

01:02:29.220 this sort of thing

01:02:29.760 even though I think

01:02:30.680 that it might

01:02:32.200 needlessly invite

01:02:33.080 controversy

01:02:33.620 and I wouldn't

01:02:34.200 advise it.

01:02:35.300 I see it as a part

01:02:36.540 of free expression

01:02:37.520 and I think that

01:02:39.140 people should

01:02:39.780 have the right

01:02:41.420 to do it

01:02:41.900 if they see fit

01:02:42.640 whether they believe

01:02:43.340 in the actual

01:02:44.100 ideology behind it

01:02:46.020 or not

01:02:46.440 if they're doing

01:02:46.960 it for a joke

01:02:47.680 it doesn't matter.

01:02:49.000 It shouldn't be up

01:02:49.460 to the government

01:02:49.820 to determine

01:02:50.400 your intention

01:02:51.580 and I also think

01:02:52.760 in an ideal world

01:02:53.560 you shouldn't lose

01:02:54.140 your job either

01:02:55.000 but also

01:02:56.720 on the other side

01:02:58.000 of the coin

01:02:58.520 I don't think

01:02:59.620 the state should

01:03:00.300 force someone

01:03:00.940 to employ someone

01:03:01.600 they don't want

01:03:02.400 so you know

01:03:03.820 if it got to a position

01:03:05.040 where someone did

01:03:05.720 one of these salutes

01:03:06.480 and then they worked

01:03:08.400 for like a small company

01:03:09.440 where you know

01:03:10.480 it was a family business

01:03:11.260 or something

01:03:11.620 and they're just like

01:03:12.200 okay I'm not okay

01:03:13.020 with this

01:03:13.500 and they get rid of them

01:03:14.580 the state shouldn't

01:03:15.800 then say

01:03:16.180 oh by the way

01:03:16.660 we're fining you

01:03:17.400 for getting rid of them

01:03:18.280 because at the end of the day

01:03:19.400 people should be able

01:03:19.980 to employ

01:03:20.460 whoever they want

01:03:21.640 and this is the same principle

01:03:23.220 of not forcing

01:03:23.980 a Christian bakery

01:03:24.720 to bake gay marriage cakes 0.94

01:03:26.540 I think that's 0.98

01:03:28.380 a far more frustrating

01:03:30.500 thing

01:03:31.800 because I think people

01:03:33.000 should be able

01:03:33.380 to hold their own beliefs

01:03:34.360 and conduct their own life

01:03:35.520 however they see fit

01:03:37.480 and you shouldn't force

01:03:38.400 Christians to bake 1.00

01:03:39.280 something that they see

01:03:39.960 as blasphemous

01:03:40.780 and you shouldn't

01:03:42.300 force people

01:03:42.940 to keep people on

01:03:44.520 but what I would like

01:03:46.500 to see is a culture

01:03:47.800 that is a little bit

01:03:48.880 more forgiving

01:03:49.520 of people just being 0.94

01:03:50.800 a bit silly 0.95

01:03:51.600 and having a bit more fun 0.97

01:03:53.500 because Calvin's

01:03:55.300 seen real consequences

01:03:56.200 that girl 1.00

01:03:57.560 has seen consequences

01:03:58.860 I don't know

01:04:01.720 what you think

01:04:02.080 of all of that

01:04:02.720 no I agree with you

01:04:04.600 so the moral

01:04:06.200 of the story is

01:04:07.100 you need to be

01:04:07.900 more like this guy

01:04:09.740 don't do the salute

01:04:11.260 you know

01:04:12.980 when everyone's

01:04:13.600 pressuring you

01:04:14.340 sit there

01:04:15.240 and don't salute

01:04:17.080 and do you know

01:04:18.520 Stelios

01:04:18.840 that this guy

01:04:19.620 after this photo

01:04:21.940 was taken

01:04:22.440 he was actually

01:04:23.060 the guy that went on

01:04:23.740 and killed Hitler 0.88

01:04:24.340 you believe it 0.99

01:04:26.020 what an interesting fella 1.00

01:04:28.400 obviously I'm joking

01:04:30.540 but yeah

01:04:31.760 I think

01:04:32.660 going around saluting

01:04:33.740 is probably not

01:04:34.400 the best idea

01:04:35.160 please don't do that

01:04:37.840 however

01:04:38.640 I think that

01:04:40.420 people are very

01:04:41.500 unreasonable about it

01:04:42.660 I think people just

01:04:43.320 need to recognise it

01:04:45.000 for what it is

01:04:45.520 most of the time

01:04:46.420 it's people just being 0.98

01:04:47.420 silly 0.96

01:04:47.780 and don't make a big 1.00

01:04:48.900 deal out of it

01:04:49.640 however

01:04:50.800 as we've discussed

01:04:52.100 there are some

01:04:52.720 important aspects to it

01:04:53.940 okay we've got a bunch

01:04:55.680 of comments here

01:04:56.920 oh some of these ones

01:05:00.740 we've already done

01:05:01.920 that persuasive voice

01:05:04.560 is a real weapon

01:05:05.520 Josh

01:05:05.880 I think you could

01:05:06.680 convince the

01:05:07.200 international olympic

01:05:08.080 committee to make

01:05:08.720 a puppy kicking

01:05:09.400 into a sport

01:05:10.620 what have I persuaded

01:05:11.680 you to do

01:05:12.360 I'm not

01:05:14.320 I'm not trying to

01:05:16.360 get people to do

01:05:16.960 anything other than

01:05:17.600 think about being

01:05:18.920 socially responsible

01:05:19.980 Steve Bannon is like

01:05:21.900 behold the field

01:05:22.740 in which I grow

01:05:23.440 my F's

01:05:24.720 cast thy gaze upon

01:05:26.400 it and weep

01:05:27.100 for its emptiness

01:05:27.840 no I

01:05:28.840 I like post prison

01:05:30.900 Bannon

01:05:31.320 he's got this

01:05:33.100 sort of attitude

01:05:34.000 of take no prisoners

01:05:35.160 that I appreciate

01:05:36.000 Elon was just

01:05:37.240 showing his

01:05:37.640 appreciation for

01:05:38.640 South American

01:05:39.340 culture

01:05:39.920 very good

01:05:42.120 and then

01:05:44.060 Meeseek says

01:05:45.200 just FYI

01:05:46.080 that Coffee Girl 0.99

01:05:46.740 was fake

01:05:47.300 some guy paid her 1.00

01:05:48.420 5k for that pic

01:05:49.660 and then used her 0.57

01:05:50.340 social media pics

01:05:51.220 to advertise for

01:05:52.980 his based energy

01:05:54.600 drink

01:05:55.000 she wasn't fired

01:05:56.280 by the way

01:05:56.780 oh really

01:05:57.480 I didn't know that

01:05:58.580 nevertheless

01:05:59.400 the point wasn't

01:06:00.860 whether she was

01:06:01.360 authentic or not

01:06:02.040 I called her 0.97

01:06:02.880 a loser anyway 0.99

01:06:04.340 and the point was 0.99

01:06:06.080 the political climate

01:06:07.440 and the culture

01:06:09.000 in which that sort

01:06:10.400 of thing can exist

01:06:11.140 in

01:06:11.380 right

01:06:12.840 so you've heard

01:06:14.620 leftists don't want

01:06:16.220 to suffer the

01:06:16.980 consequences of their

01:06:18.060 own actions

01:06:18.680 that is true

01:06:19.760 they hate the

01:06:20.820 consequences of their

01:06:21.540 own actions

01:06:22.060 they do everything

01:06:23.200 to be insulated

01:06:24.440 from them

01:06:24.960 exactly

01:06:25.440 and one of the

01:06:26.220 things

01:06:26.540 that characterise

01:06:28.360 their houses

01:06:29.020 is that they

01:06:29.780 do not

01:06:30.760 accommodate

01:06:32.260 several people

01:06:33.880 that they want

01:06:34.500 to be in the

01:06:34.880 country

01:06:35.180 refugees

01:06:35.960 my favourite

01:06:37.080 thing about this

01:06:37.860 is when you

01:06:38.960 go around

01:06:39.680 a refugees

01:06:40.240 welcome protest

01:06:41.160 saying would you

01:06:41.860 like to take a

01:06:42.360 refugee I can sort 0.99

01:06:43.080 it out right now

01:06:43.780 they're just like

01:06:44.460 oh sorry I don't

01:06:45.100 have the room

01:06:45.620 oh no no no

01:06:46.580 I'm sorry I can't

01:06:47.760 they're all apologising

01:06:49.120 making excuses

01:06:50.000 but when

01:06:51.020 other people's tax

01:06:52.440 money is extorted

01:06:53.220 through the government

01:06:53.900 out of them

01:06:54.640 all of a sudden

01:06:56.160 when the government

01:06:56.660 has stolen money

01:06:58.060 from other people

01:06:58.840 it's okay

01:06:59.460 to spend that money

01:07:00.580 putting up

01:07:01.520 foreign independence

01:07:02.520 it's funny isn't it

01:07:04.240 because Josh

01:07:04.920 I mean you're looking

01:07:06.000 at it from an

01:07:06.580 individualistic perspective

01:07:07.900 the point is

01:07:09.500 outsource things

01:07:10.460 to others

01:07:11.120 to the social

01:07:12.600 somehow

01:07:13.460 even if they don't

01:07:15.080 have individual

01:07:15.920 responsibility

01:07:16.620 it's the folk

01:07:19.040 or the society

01:07:20.160 that has responsibility

01:07:21.240 that they don't have

01:07:22.700 so others

01:07:23.680 are basically

01:07:24.320 called to

01:07:25.500 to do things

01:07:27.480 that they don't

01:07:28.080 so after this podcast

01:07:29.240 I'm going to go out

01:07:30.020 on the street 1.00

01:07:30.420 and punch someone 1.00

01:07:31.140 in the face 1.00

01:07:31.820 and then I'm going to say

01:07:33.020 it wasn't my fault

01:07:34.360 it was society

01:07:35.140 that made me do it

01:07:36.260 and everyone be like

01:07:37.740 fair enough

01:07:38.260 Josh

01:07:38.680 you go free

01:07:39.640 it's okay

01:07:40.600 but it was society

01:07:41.820 that made you do it

01:07:42.600 that's true

01:07:43.180 it did

01:07:43.800 right

01:07:44.320 and we are going to

01:07:45.100 talk about

01:07:45.760 a theatre

01:07:47.140 in France

01:07:48.020 that is

01:07:51.200 actually

01:07:52.180 you made that sound

01:07:53.700 so sinister

01:07:54.320 you lent in

01:07:55.240 we're going to talk

01:07:56.280 about a theatre

01:07:56.980 yeah exactly

01:07:58.020 but it is sinister

01:07:59.220 it is actually

01:08:00.060 quite funny

01:08:01.320 but as you mentioned

01:08:02.640 it's a microcosm

01:08:03.880 of the west

01:08:05.720 at the moment

01:08:06.360 it certainly is

01:08:07.540 yes

01:08:07.860 exactly

01:08:08.580 and

01:08:09.160 the point is

01:08:10.920 that it shows

01:08:12.160 it shows

01:08:13.180 when the left

01:08:14.080 actually tastes

01:08:15.480 its own medicine

01:08:16.740 we are going to see

01:08:17.840 some justice

01:08:18.460 be dished out today

01:08:19.400 and it is beautiful

01:08:20.500 exactly

01:08:21.640 so your eyes

01:08:22.560 have seen the glory

01:08:23.500 of justice

01:08:25.080 in this case

01:08:26.080 for once in my life

01:08:27.440 yes

01:08:27.740 right

01:08:28.080 so before we tell you

01:08:29.420 more about this

01:08:30.240 French theatre

01:08:31.460 that is full of

01:08:32.380 degeneracy

01:08:33.140 and crime

01:08:34.100 as usual

01:08:34.600 and sex 0.74

01:08:35.160 and

01:08:35.660 French theatre

01:08:37.880 more generally

01:08:38.440 yeah

01:08:39.300 but they are

01:08:40.780 protesting about it

01:08:41.840 so that's poetic justice

01:08:43.300 isn't it

01:08:44.600 it is

01:08:45.040 right

01:08:45.580 but before we say

01:08:46.480 more about this

01:08:47.120 we have

01:08:47.440 oil under 3

01:08:48.520 we have

01:08:49.820 we have this

01:08:52.840 new issue

01:08:53.840 of our magazine

01:08:55.320 Rory has done

01:08:56.220 really good job

01:08:57.060 you see here

01:08:58.060 really nice

01:08:59.340 picture

01:09:00.020 we have

01:09:01.020 I really like

01:09:02.220 the aesthetic

01:09:03.320 but also

01:09:04.120 the thing is

01:09:04.840 that Rory

01:09:05.700 reinvented it

01:09:06.680 because

01:09:07.220 the third issue

01:09:09.000 seems a bit

01:09:10.080 different to the

01:09:10.720 first two

01:09:11.180 I think that

01:09:12.100 this shows

01:09:12.620 really good

01:09:13.220 energy and vigor

01:09:14.360 and creativity

01:09:15.220 you can

01:09:16.740 order it

01:09:17.660 here

01:09:17.960 it's just

01:09:18.780 £14.99

01:09:20.120 it's not even

01:09:22.000 £15

01:09:22.480 that's true

01:09:23.500 not even £15

01:09:24.760 that is objectively

01:09:26.000 correct

01:09:26.380 it's not £15

01:09:27.300 it is £14.99

01:09:28.580 and for that price

01:09:30.180 who can say no

01:09:31.320 and if you have dollars

01:09:32.440 we do accept those

01:09:33.380 as well

01:09:33.740 in fact we do

01:09:34.560 international shipping

01:09:35.360 so yeah

01:09:36.200 there's that

01:09:36.700 right

01:09:37.720 so the topic

01:09:38.680 we're going to talk

01:09:39.320 about is a topic

01:09:40.100 that is an ongoing

01:09:41.700 one

01:09:42.040 and Carl has

01:09:42.740 made a video

01:09:43.220 about it

01:09:43.760 on the Daily Channel

01:09:45.020 that was a month ago

01:09:46.060 before there were

01:09:46.980 proper

01:09:47.680 developments

01:09:49.740 let's say

01:09:50.460 it was only in

01:09:52.020 it's budding stage

01:09:53.420 but the flower

01:09:54.320 has come full bloom

01:09:55.340 today

01:09:55.760 exactly

01:09:56.340 and he did this

01:09:57.300 on the Daily Channel

01:09:58.380 that we have set up

01:09:59.900 by all means

01:10:00.640 go and check it out

01:10:02.460 and it did really well

01:10:04.540 and it's called

01:10:05.540 Africans Hijack 1.00

01:10:06.660 a Leftist Theatre

01:10:07.620 which is a

01:10:09.400 pretty good description

01:10:10.380 of what happened

01:10:11.080 but I think

01:10:11.920 there's a vampiric

01:10:13.120 element into it

01:10:13.980 because they were

01:10:14.700 invited in

01:10:15.680 Africans only come in 1.00

01:10:18.800 when they're invited

01:10:19.460 exactly

01:10:20.420 yeah

01:10:20.840 so

01:10:21.080 maybe they should

01:10:23.040 throw garlic

01:10:23.700 or holy water

01:10:24.600 to dispel

01:10:25.320 right

01:10:26.740 so

01:10:27.100 here is

01:10:28.240 the

01:10:29.240 La Guete

01:10:30.640 Lyric

01:10:32.260 La Guete

01:10:32.980 Lyric

01:10:33.620 please could you

01:10:36.560 do that again

01:10:37.240 La Guete

01:10:40.040 Lyric

01:10:40.840 yeah

01:10:41.020 I messed it up

01:10:42.480 that time

01:10:42.860 actually

01:10:43.140 but it's

01:10:43.620 I do actually

01:10:44.480 speak a little bit

01:10:45.100 of French

01:10:45.460 but I've got a

01:10:46.640 sore throat

01:10:47.140 at the minute

01:10:47.500 which is making

01:10:48.080 it a lot more

01:10:48.820 difficult

01:10:49.240 right

01:10:50.660 so here we have

01:10:51.440 the history

01:10:52.160 of this theatre

01:10:52.940 it's quite historic

01:10:53.960 actually

01:10:54.840 it's from the

01:10:55.800 1860s

01:10:56.880 oh wow

01:10:58.180 it's quite old

01:10:58.960 then

01:10:59.200 oh it looks

01:11:00.100 lovely from the

01:11:00.740 outside

01:11:01.040 yeah

01:11:01.580 and actually

01:11:02.260 it's one

01:11:02.900 of the

01:11:03.600 playhouses

01:11:04.560 in

01:11:05.200 that followed

01:11:07.480 the modernisation

01:11:09.140 of Paris

01:11:09.740 and the destruction

01:11:10.560 of the theatres

01:11:11.320 on the

01:11:11.720 boulevard

01:11:12.120 du temple 0.96

01:11:12.640 and they say

01:11:13.680 that it was

01:11:14.960 built in

01:11:15.780 on September

01:11:17.480 the 3rd

01:11:18.040 1862

01:11:18.900 so

01:11:19.280 it's another

01:11:20.440 era

01:11:20.760 it's also

01:11:22.520 a shame

01:11:23.120 that

01:11:23.620 it's

01:11:25.000 gone the

01:11:25.580 direction

01:11:25.860 it has

01:11:26.340 for such

01:11:26.780 a beautiful

01:11:27.240 historic

01:11:27.700 building

01:11:28.100 but

01:11:29.000 sorry

01:11:29.800 do carry on

01:11:30.340 look at it

01:11:31.160 look at all

01:11:32.100 the culture

01:11:32.720 oozing

01:11:33.400 from this

01:11:34.060 image

01:11:34.460 they've made

01:11:35.960 it look a

01:11:36.620 little bit

01:11:36.980 grim

01:11:37.240 behind the

01:11:37.780 bars

01:11:38.140 and with

01:11:38.540 the winter

01:11:39.660 trees

01:11:40.200 in front

01:11:40.620 of it

01:11:40.880 but I'm

01:11:41.280 sure it

01:11:41.580 would look

01:11:41.720 lovely

01:11:42.020 if they

01:11:42.320 actually

01:11:42.520 took a

01:11:42.820 decent

01:11:43.000 picture

01:11:43.420 when you

01:11:44.000 look at

01:11:44.380 it

01:11:44.560 what does

01:11:45.020 it feel

01:11:45.500 like

01:11:45.800 it's

01:11:46.020 inside

01:11:46.340 what are

01:11:46.720 the

01:11:46.920 images

01:11:47.340 you

01:11:47.620 conjure

01:11:49.000 I think

01:11:49.500 it's a

01:11:49.860 place

01:11:50.220 of

01:11:50.840 it's a

01:11:52.160 cultural

01:11:52.540 high

01:11:52.860 water

01:11:53.240 market

01:11:53.520 it's a

01:11:53.720 place

01:11:53.960 of

01:11:54.180 sophistication

01:11:55.480 of

01:11:56.080 pushing

01:11:58.540 the

01:11:58.840 boundaries

01:11:59.360 of

01:11:59.920 the

01:12:00.220 transcendence

01:12:01.220 of

01:12:02.320 humanity

01:12:02.920 exactly

01:12:03.600 I think

01:12:03.940 I'd wear

01:12:04.340 a tuxedo

01:12:04.960 and go

01:12:05.360 in and

01:12:05.820 go watch

01:12:06.400 a play

01:12:07.300 or an

01:12:08.160 opera

01:12:08.440 like

01:12:08.780 Tosca

01:12:09.340 or

01:12:09.780 Turandor

01:12:10.460 but

01:12:11.680 there are

01:12:13.360 issues

01:12:13.860 the problem

01:12:14.860 is that

01:12:15.380 the gate

01:12:15.820 is currently

01:12:16.500 closed

01:12:17.120 due to

01:12:17.820 the

01:12:18.020 occupation

01:12:18.580 of the

01:12:18.960 building

01:12:19.300 and in

01:12:20.060 the absence

01:12:20.620 of solutions

01:12:21.520 proposed

01:12:22.260 by the

01:12:22.880 competent

01:12:23.300 authorities

01:12:24.060 the

01:12:24.700 lyrical

01:12:25.140 management

01:12:25.660 is currently

01:12:26.380 unable

01:12:26.900 to maintain

01:12:27.520 the

01:12:27.740 conditions

01:12:28.320 allowing

01:12:29.160 the

01:12:29.660 I really

01:12:30.680 can't

01:12:31.000 pronounce

01:12:31.300 this

01:12:31.560 of the

01:12:32.320 public

01:12:32.700 in its

01:12:33.420 spaces

01:12:34.100 I think

01:12:34.680 maybe

01:12:34.980 they say

01:12:35.820 the public

01:12:36.420 going there

01:12:37.060 on its

01:12:37.440 spaces

01:12:37.800 right

01:12:38.200 so

01:12:38.520 and

01:12:39.560 the

01:12:40.180 decision

01:12:40.620 was made

01:12:41.180 to keep

01:12:41.740 the

01:12:41.960 building

01:12:42.600 closed

01:12:43.700 I like

01:12:44.180 how you

01:12:44.620 are

01:12:44.820 highlighting

01:12:45.460 it

01:12:45.740 Samson

01:12:46.180 as if

01:12:46.560 that

01:12:46.780 would

01:12:46.960 help

01:12:47.280 me

01:12:47.720 I just

01:12:48.380 don't

01:12:48.660 know

01:12:48.880 the

01:12:49.080 word

01:12:49.480 right

01:12:50.820 the problem

01:12:51.960 is you

01:12:52.260 can't

01:12:52.540 see it

01:12:52.960 if he

01:12:54.480 highlights it

01:12:55.040 you can

01:12:55.300 pronounce it

01:12:55.920 that's a

01:12:56.640 trick

01:12:56.840 with

01:12:57.000 French

01:12:57.400 right

01:13:00.700 okay

01:13:01.080 pardon my

01:13:01.820 pardon my

01:13:03.100 French

01:13:03.420 Josh

01:13:03.840 for once

01:13:04.500 it actually

01:13:04.980 means that

01:13:05.440 yes

01:13:05.840 the decision

01:13:06.620 was made

01:13:07.260 to keep

01:13:07.880 the building

01:13:08.340 closed

01:13:08.720 scheduled

01:13:09.100 events are

01:13:09.600 canceled

01:13:10.040 postponed

01:13:10.580 or relocated

01:13:11.440 so look at

01:13:12.940 the events

01:13:13.460 here to get

01:13:13.980 a sense

01:13:14.860 of it

01:13:15.120 here we

01:13:15.480 have a

01:13:16.360 debate

01:13:16.840 about new

01:13:17.660 images of

01:13:18.400 masculinity

01:13:19.000 we have

01:13:20.000 someone here

01:13:20.580 who seems

01:13:21.660 to be going

01:13:22.140 to the gym

01:13:22.680 and someone

01:13:23.540 else here

01:13:24.200 who seems

01:13:24.680 to be

01:13:24.960 pregnant 0.80

01:13:25.340 we have

01:13:26.880 here

01:13:27.140 pregnant 0.80

01:13:28.100 with a

01:13:28.460 beer belly

01:13:28.900 maybe

01:13:29.320 I can't

01:13:32.640 throw

01:13:32.820 stains

01:13:33.240 there's also

01:13:34.560 the Arnold

01:13:35.040 Schwarzenegger

01:13:35.740 movie

01:13:36.140 though

01:13:36.820 Danny

01:13:38.480 DeVito

01:13:38.980 of course

01:13:39.680 his body

01:13:40.440 his choice

01:13:41.220 it's not a

01:13:42.100 tumor

01:13:42.400 that one

01:13:43.160 yeah

01:13:43.560 right

01:13:44.120 so we

01:13:45.060 have here

01:13:45.440 can finance

01:13:46.100 scam to

01:13:46.700 the aid

01:13:47.200 over city

01:13:47.780 center

01:13:48.220 my belly

01:13:49.480 is a

01:13:49.820 volcano

01:13:50.280 I think

01:13:51.100 they really

01:13:51.640 had bad

01:13:52.220 food

01:13:52.500 there

01:13:52.820 I thought

01:13:54.900 French food

01:13:55.420 was meant

01:13:55.700 to be good

01:13:56.300 volcanoes

01:13:57.120 erupt

01:13:57.860 you know

01:13:58.640 upwards

01:13:59.280 but stomach

01:14:00.860 sometimes

01:14:01.480 can erupt

01:14:02.060 down

01:14:02.360 where is this

01:14:02.820 going

01:14:04.240 I know

01:14:05.900 no but

01:14:06.300 actually

01:14:06.740 that's actually

01:14:07.520 the question

01:14:07.980 we need to

01:14:08.380 be asking

01:14:08.860 them because

01:14:09.220 you're a

01:14:09.940 theater

01:14:10.240 you had

01:14:11.340 events

01:14:11.820 none of

01:14:12.600 these events

01:14:13.020 are going

01:14:13.340 to be

01:14:13.540 staged

01:14:13.880 so what's

01:14:14.760 going on

01:14:15.220 that's a

01:14:16.040 that's a

01:14:16.420 major issue

01:14:17.040 what's going

01:14:17.800 on here

01:14:18.240 cancellation

01:14:19.380 maternity

01:14:20.500 cause

01:14:21.020 where's the

01:14:21.540 care

01:14:21.840 cancelled

01:14:23.180 heartbeat

01:14:23.860 why did

01:14:24.420 they need

01:14:24.660 a theater

01:14:25.100 to have

01:14:25.500 a maternity

01:14:26.040 course

01:14:26.420 anyway

01:14:26.680 no idea

01:14:28.680 Josh

01:14:28.980 no idea

01:14:29.540 but they

01:14:30.380 have

01:14:30.660 they seem

01:14:31.120 to be

01:14:31.400 having

01:14:31.760 ongoing

01:14:32.220 problems

01:14:32.840 and they

01:14:33.180 say here

01:14:33.620 why we

01:14:34.380 must support

01:14:35.160 Lirigate

01:14:35.860 more than

01:14:36.540 300 cultural

01:14:37.700 political

01:14:38.380 and civil

01:14:39.000 society

01:14:39.520 actors

01:14:40.120 call on

01:14:40.820 the public

01:14:41.200 authority

01:14:41.620 to save

01:14:42.300 Lirigate

01:14:43.000 by finding

01:14:44.040 an urgent

01:14:44.680 solution

01:14:45.140 of rehousing

01:14:45.820 for the

01:14:46.320 400 young

01:14:47.380 people

01:14:47.760 who occupied

01:14:48.440 so just

01:14:48.920 young

01:14:49.200 people

01:14:49.700 they're

01:14:50.820 young

01:14:51.120 people

01:14:51.640 are they

01:14:52.340 these young

01:14:54.020 people

01:14:54.560 is it the

01:14:55.640 theater

01:14:55.980 YMCA

01:14:56.700 young people

01:14:57.640 come to

01:14:58.060 associate

01:14:58.600 right so

01:15:02.020 the point

01:15:03.280 is we have

01:15:03.980 leftists are

01:15:04.960 asking for a

01:15:06.020 problem to be

01:15:06.720 solved the

01:15:07.840 major question

01:15:08.500 is who

01:15:09.760 caused the

01:15:10.280 problem

01:15:10.720 leftists

01:15:13.300 exactly

01:15:14.040 they

01:15:14.700 are

01:15:16.260 the

01:15:16.740 people

01:15:17.180 who are

01:15:18.560 the problem

01:15:19.060 they want

01:15:19.500 to be

01:15:19.720 solved

01:15:20.100 right and

01:15:21.080 they say

01:15:21.360 here

01:15:21.700 we

01:15:23.180 cultural

01:15:23.860 and civil

01:15:24.460 society

01:15:24.940 actors

01:15:25.300 actively

01:15:25.780 support

01:15:26.220 Lirigate

01:15:26.780 in a few

01:15:27.160 years the

01:15:27.560 social and

01:15:28.120 international

01:15:28.800 cultural

01:15:29.620 landscape

01:15:30.120 has been

01:15:30.760 disrupted

01:15:31.240 major

01:15:32.080 geopolitical

01:15:32.820 threats

01:15:33.200 have emerged

01:15:33.900 territorial

01:15:34.540 imperialism

01:15:35.600 resurfaces

01:15:36.620 authoritarianism

01:15:39.300 they really

01:15:40.180 need a mirror

01:15:40.880 basically 1.00

01:15:41.840 you idiots 1.00

01:15:43.220 you invited 1.00

01:15:43.880 in a bunch

01:15:44.420 of africans 0.60

01:15:45.060 and now

01:15:45.340 you're blaming

01:15:45.860 imperialism

01:15:46.920 and authoritarianism

01:15:48.280 and territorial

01:15:50.220 imperialism

01:15:51.040 because it

01:15:51.460 is

01:15:51.780 that's what

01:15:52.980 the bit of

01:15:53.900 irony is

01:15:54.620 the africans 0.87

01:15:55.380 are now

01:15:55.720 taken over

01:15:56.600 their territory

01:15:57.340 they've colonized

01:15:58.000 exactly

01:15:58.340 and they say

01:15:58.740 no it's our

01:15:59.260 territory now

01:16:00.200 look at me

01:16:02.660 it's my

01:16:03.300 theater now

01:16:04.060 you know I

01:16:04.660 did it with an

01:16:05.220 Arnie accent

01:16:06.040 it was meant

01:16:07.660 to be a

01:16:08.040 Somali pirate

01:16:08.820 I've got a 0.86

01:16:09.800 sore throat

01:16:10.220 okay I'm

01:16:10.640 allowed

01:16:10.900 right the

01:16:11.520 environmental

01:16:11.940 issue is

01:16:12.780 denied

01:16:13.140 while everywhere

01:16:13.840 social

01:16:14.340 fragmentation

01:16:15.140 divisions

01:16:15.900 the confrontation

01:16:17.200 are progressive

01:16:17.960 polarization

01:16:19.300 fruit of the

01:16:20.160 omnipotence of

01:16:21.100 shameless social

01:16:22.240 networks

01:16:22.900 gangrene the

01:16:23.720 public space

01:16:24.440 all of these

01:16:25.600 are just

01:16:26.000 fancy word

01:16:26.700 of saying

01:16:27.200 we effed up

01:16:28.040 we want

01:16:28.880 some competent

01:16:29.840 people to come

01:16:30.680 up and solve

01:16:31.620 the problem

01:16:32.040 we created

01:16:32.560 this is so

01:16:34.000 poetic justice

01:16:35.280 this is all

01:16:35.940 the left

01:16:36.300 has ever

01:16:36.940 been

01:16:37.260 about

01:16:38.200 it's nice

01:16:41.520 to revel

01:16:41.960 in some

01:16:42.600 actual

01:16:43.620 justice

01:16:44.580 go on

01:16:44.980 in Europe

01:16:45.360 for once

01:16:45.900 in this

01:16:46.720 moment of

01:16:47.280 change

01:16:47.600 where democracy

01:16:48.280 is wavering

01:16:48.920 where the

01:16:49.300 law of the

01:16:49.700 strongest

01:16:50.240 imposes

01:16:50.860 and seems

01:16:51.540 to triumph

01:16:52.140 we cultural

01:16:53.320 actors of the

01:16:54.060 social and

01:16:54.600 solidarity economy

01:16:55.640 and civil

01:16:56.040 society

01:16:56.500 have the

01:16:57.240 duty to

01:16:57.740 respond

01:16:58.240 what

01:16:58.980 absurd

01:16:59.960 nonsense 0.91

01:17:00.640 talking about

01:17:01.860 democracy

01:17:02.720 your theatre's

01:17:04.120 been taken

01:17:04.520 over by a

01:17:05.000 bunch of

01:17:05.300 Africans 0.99

01:17:05.740 there's nothing

01:17:06.400 to do with

01:17:07.500 democracy about

01:17:08.480 it

01:17:08.740 yeah but

01:17:09.060 Josh

01:17:09.480 are you going

01:17:10.540 to vote

01:17:10.860 them out

01:17:11.240 to defend

01:17:12.240 shared values

01:17:13.160 a common

01:17:13.620 vision

01:17:14.040 the ambition

01:17:15.160 to meet

01:17:15.780 and act

01:17:16.180 collectively

01:17:16.740 right so

01:17:20.360 let's see here

01:17:21.300 some pictures

01:17:22.000 what happened

01:17:23.060 was that there

01:17:23.860 was an event

01:17:24.800 at some point

01:17:25.620 at the

01:17:26.320 I think it

01:17:27.320 was in

01:17:27.920 early December

01:17:29.120 2024

01:17:30.040 there was an

01:17:31.220 event that

01:17:32.240 was staged

01:17:33.800 to display

01:17:34.520 solidarity for

01:17:35.640 the refugees

01:17:36.640 of the world

01:17:37.440 in France

01:17:38.360 and what

01:17:39.060 happened was

01:17:39.680 that a lot

01:17:40.280 of academics

01:17:40.860 and social

01:17:41.620 and social

01:17:42.340 and cultural

01:17:43.120 actors as

01:17:43.960 they are

01:17:44.300 saying

01:17:44.580 are

01:17:46.880 were involved

01:17:49.920 into that

01:17:50.620 play

01:17:51.460 and they

01:17:52.020 handed in

01:17:52.660 250

01:17:54.020 to 300

01:17:55.940 free tickets

01:17:57.900 if you see

01:17:58.820 the number

01:17:59.260 constantly

01:18:00.220 goes up

01:18:00.800 but this

01:18:01.200 isn't

01:18:01.920 precisely

01:18:02.400 because they

01:18:02.880 bring more

01:18:03.520 and more

01:18:03.800 people in

01:18:04.340 and when

01:18:05.720 the event

01:18:06.240 stopped

01:18:07.080 they gave

01:18:07.900 250

01:18:08.900 tickets for

01:18:12.420 free to

01:18:12.980 African migrants

01:18:14.280 and

01:18:15.280 often when

01:18:15.880 they get

01:18:16.200 when a theater

01:18:17.040 gives away

01:18:17.720 free tickets

01:18:18.560 it's because

01:18:19.140 they're embarrassed

01:18:20.240 about not having

01:18:21.260 very many people

01:18:22.020 turn up

01:18:22.580 it's low

01:18:23.080 attendance

01:18:23.500 they know

01:18:24.140 it's going

01:18:24.380 to be

01:18:24.540 low

01:18:24.740 attendance

01:18:25.220 and so

01:18:26.140 going to

01:18:26.900 a bunch

01:18:28.040 of African

01:18:28.600 migrants

01:18:29.140 that were

01:18:29.560 vagrant

01:18:30.100 on the

01:18:30.540 street

01:18:30.960 to get

01:18:31.960 some

01:18:32.320 people

01:18:32.920 on the

01:18:33.220 seats

01:18:33.480 just to

01:18:34.020 save face

01:18:34.700 is kind

01:18:35.380 of hilarious

01:18:35.820 but also

01:18:36.440 what is

01:18:37.100 actually

01:18:37.560 hilarious

01:18:38.020 is that

01:18:38.440 they are

01:18:38.800 putting up

01:18:39.340 a fuss

01:18:39.980 about it

01:18:40.540 and the

01:18:41.960 African

01:18:42.500 migrants

01:18:43.020 just said

01:18:43.620 no we're

01:18:43.940 not leaving

01:18:44.460 and then

01:18:45.440 they're

01:18:45.660 making

01:18:46.100 a

01:18:46.600 the leftists

01:18:47.940 are making

01:18:48.540 a sort

01:18:49.080 of announcement

01:18:49.640 about territorial

01:18:50.500 imperialism

01:18:51.300 on the main

01:18:52.440 website

01:18:52.900 it's almost

01:18:53.240 like private

01:18:53.900 property

01:18:54.780 and you know

01:18:55.820 having borders

01:18:56.680 and being able

01:18:57.840 to defend them

01:18:58.460 is important

01:18:59.060 or something

01:18:59.620 isn't it

01:19:00.140 strange

01:19:01.120 so they basically

01:19:02.180 just said

01:19:02.800 we don't want

01:19:03.520 to leave

01:19:03.780 we're going

01:19:04.560 to stay here

01:19:05.080 my favourite

01:19:05.740 thing about

01:19:06.160 this article

01:19:06.620 by the way

01:19:07.180 is that

01:19:08.160 this article

01:19:10.480 from the

01:19:11.040 New York

01:19:11.400 Times

01:19:11.860 is trying

01:19:12.220 to argue

01:19:12.720 they're trying

01:19:14.260 to prove

01:19:14.740 that they're

01:19:15.100 just kids

01:19:15.900 it says

01:19:16.320 more than

01:19:16.600 300 homeless

01:19:17.440 African immigrants

01:19:18.220 are camping

01:19:18.660 out in

01:19:19.180 the

01:19:19.660 waiting for

01:19:24.500 officials to

01:19:25.200 rule on

01:19:25.660 whether they

01:19:26.100 are minors

01:19:26.940 and eligible

01:19:27.480 for benefits

01:19:28.260 like housing

01:19:28.940 look at all

01:19:30.340 these children

01:19:31.120 these children

01:19:32.500 here

01:19:32.860 they look

01:19:33.320 like children

01:19:34.300 oh they're

01:19:35.040 definitely

01:19:35.540 children

01:19:36.220 no they're

01:19:37.560 not obviously

01:19:38.060 economic chances

01:19:39.740 they said

01:19:40.840 that they did

01:19:41.420 this because

01:19:41.940 there is

01:19:42.540 a law

01:19:43.360 that says

01:19:44.000 that

01:19:44.400 adults

01:19:46.300 who don't

01:19:47.580 have shelter

01:19:48.400 deserve shelter

01:19:50.400 and must be

01:19:51.060 given shelter

01:19:51.720 not adults

01:19:53.140 minors

01:19:53.680 yeah well

01:19:54.840 that's why

01:19:55.540 they tried

01:19:55.980 the things

01:19:58.140 that lefty

01:19:58.720 lawyers put

01:19:59.180 them onto

01:19:59.500 I imagine

01:19:59.960 yes

01:20:00.760 right so

01:20:01.600 what happened

01:20:02.100 was that

01:20:02.820 we have

01:20:03.680 set

01:20:04.860 we had

01:20:05.440 over the

01:20:06.140 these months

01:20:07.180 several people

01:20:09.140 look at that

01:20:17.100 bongo playing

01:20:17.920 it's terrible

01:20:18.740 it might be a

01:20:20.520 different kind

01:20:20.900 of drum

01:20:21.200 but

01:20:21.520 this is from

01:20:22.960 a month and a

01:20:23.880 half back

01:20:24.820 they were basically

01:20:25.360 saying we're not

01:20:26.380 leaving

01:20:26.760 they're also not

01:20:27.640 able to keep

01:20:28.600 a simple rhythm

01:20:29.800 you've got one job

01:20:31.600 Africans

01:20:32.040 I mean you're

01:20:32.840 known for being

01:20:33.380 able to play

01:20:33.900 the drums

01:20:34.360 what are you

01:20:35.100 playing at

01:20:35.720 clearly not

01:20:36.760 instruments

01:20:37.280 maybe they

01:20:38.400 I think they

01:20:40.380 are

01:20:40.660 they don't have

01:20:41.760 the musical

01:20:42.340 talent

01:20:42.840 you may expect

01:20:45.140 it's just hitting

01:20:46.720 things at a

01:20:47.460 regular interval

01:20:48.140 it's not hard

01:20:48.980 yes and this is

01:20:51.220 from December

01:20:52.260 they say

01:20:52.740 and they

01:20:53.320 we have

01:20:53.780 essentially the

01:20:54.420 same thing

01:20:54.860 they go out

01:20:55.400 and they protest

01:20:56.080 and we have

01:20:56.920 rally saying

01:20:57.600 unaccompanied

01:20:58.980 minors without

01:20:59.960 papers have been

01:21:00.900 occupying the

01:21:01.660 gate lyric

01:21:03.100 for over a

01:21:04.540 half a week

01:21:05.260 for rehousing

01:21:06.120 tonight they're

01:21:07.120 holding an

01:21:07.740 open general

01:21:08.500 assembly in

01:21:09.860 front of the

01:21:10.940 occupied building

01:21:12.660 I like how they

01:21:13.400 call it general

01:21:14.140 assembly it's

01:21:15.140 imagine they

01:21:16.000 called it the

01:21:16.580 national assembly

01:21:17.600 we have the

01:21:19.060 third or the

01:21:19.680 fourth estate

01:21:20.460 now we're gonna

01:21:21.520 call ourselves

01:21:22.260 the national

01:21:23.340 assembly

01:21:23.920 it's gonna be

01:21:25.460 another French 0.89

01:21:26.260 revolution

01:21:26.820 entirely African 1.00

01:21:29.060 led

01:21:29.360 yeah well it's

01:21:30.080 gonna be about

01:21:30.620 the 537th

01:21:34.000 French revolution

01:21:35.080 post 1789

01:21:36.820 right okay

01:21:39.160 and we have

01:21:41.320 here again

01:21:42.280 they just say

01:21:43.100 things and

01:21:44.300 just protest

01:21:45.120 but things

01:21:46.180 have become

01:21:47.100 worse

01:21:47.580 you can see

01:21:49.080 you can see

01:21:51.340 here the

01:21:51.700 images

01:21:52.260 they're sleeping

01:21:54.020 just in like

01:21:54.920 the gallery

01:21:55.480 parts it looks

01:21:56.540 like

01:21:56.940 yeah I

01:21:59.300 don't think

01:22:00.060 Netanyahu

01:22:01.360 and Trump

01:22:02.020 were in that

01:22:02.700 building by the

01:22:03.320 way

01:22:03.500 I think that

01:22:04.900 might have

01:22:05.160 been an

01:22:05.440 unrelated article

01:22:06.280 that might have

01:22:07.060 been an

01:22:07.420 unrelated

01:22:07.700 so you see

01:22:08.740 this I

01:22:09.500 this is not

01:22:10.400 how I picture

01:22:11.100 the the

01:22:12.240 theater

01:22:12.660 no it looks

01:22:14.560 very modern on

01:22:15.240 the inside

01:22:15.720 yeah turns out

01:22:16.780 less is lost

01:22:17.460 than we thought

01:22:18.100 but also more

01:22:19.040 packed

01:22:19.400 it's busier

01:22:20.880 it's got a

01:22:21.340 bustling atmosphere

01:22:22.180 it feels very

01:22:23.400 cultural there's a

01:22:25.320 lot of culture

01:22:27.320 present there

01:22:28.040 isn't there

01:22:28.420 yes and as

01:22:30.120 you would have

01:22:30.620 expected Josh

01:22:31.660 what happens

01:22:32.720 when you have

01:22:33.500 a small place

01:22:36.340 that is overcrowded

01:22:38.340 with and you

01:22:40.420 have people

01:22:40.900 forcibly occupying

01:22:42.140 it and their

01:22:43.420 whole being

01:22:44.300 there defies

01:22:45.620 the law and

01:22:47.220 you have you

01:22:48.460 don't have enough

01:22:49.060 resources

01:22:49.860 do bad things

01:22:51.220 happen Stelios

01:22:52.040 yes and not

01:22:54.140 just bad things

01:22:55.160 happen worst

01:22:56.380 things happen

01:22:57.220 every now and

01:22:57.840 then so it

01:22:58.280 has disintegrated

01:22:59.520 who would have

01:23:00.500 guessed it

01:23:01.220 it's it's just

01:23:03.580 two minutes

01:23:04.240 before the

01:23:05.480 lord of the

01:23:06.080 flies scenario

01:23:06.920 it's really bad

01:23:08.460 so they're

01:23:09.340 refusing to

01:23:09.940 leave and 0.98

01:23:10.460 there's a wave

01:23:11.160 of sex related

01:23:12.200 violence so

01:23:14.160 what is it

01:23:15.620 nearly 500

01:23:16.820 Africans turn 0.95

01:23:18.620 up in a place 0.98

01:23:19.300 and sex related

01:23:20.460 violence rockets

01:23:21.960 and also

01:23:23.080 also drugs

01:23:24.500 also violence

01:23:25.880 and the

01:23:26.560 staff of the

01:23:27.620 the staff of

01:23:28.500 the theater

01:23:29.060 are saying

01:23:30.020 that we

01:23:30.440 can't we

01:23:31.580 cannot function

01:23:34.000 as security

01:23:34.680 personnel because

01:23:35.600 we're not security

01:23:36.500 personnel and we

01:23:37.800 want the competent

01:23:38.760 authorities to do

01:23:39.860 something about it

01:23:40.700 but this is

01:23:41.660 actually a really

01:23:42.980 good analogy

01:23:43.720 for what is

01:23:45.160 what this is

01:23:46.100 about because

01:23:46.700 it's a microcosm

01:23:47.780 of the world

01:23:48.320 that we are

01:23:49.000 living in

01:23:49.480 it's a microcosm

01:23:50.540 of the west

01:23:51.560 at the moment

01:23:52.180 I very much

01:23:53.200 agree and

01:23:53.780 there was

01:23:54.580 something on

01:23:55.220 the next link

01:23:56.040 I think

01:23:57.580 that right

01:23:59.960 towards the end

01:24:00.660 I couldn't find

01:24:01.580 who originally

01:24:02.160 said it but

01:24:03.180 it's an excellent

01:24:03.980 summary of how

01:24:05.560 it's the perfect

01:24:06.180 symbol of the

01:24:08.140 effect of

01:24:08.800 immigration

01:24:09.380 is it alright

01:24:11.040 if I read some

01:24:11.760 of this

01:24:11.940 yes of course

01:24:12.380 it says a

01:24:13.300 theatre which

01:24:15.020 is collective

01:24:15.640 equipment result

01:24:16.640 of centuries of

01:24:17.480 cultural development

01:24:18.360 a completely

01:24:20.480 left-wing program

01:24:21.420 which represents

01:24:22.340 cultural hegemony

01:24:23.540 universalism out

01:24:24.640 of touch

01:24:25.100 moralizing humanism

01:24:26.740 400 Africans

01:24:28.180 who have turned

01:24:30.280 up there the

01:24:30.940 great replacement

01:24:31.580 that symbolizes

01:24:32.400 employees who

01:24:33.820 welcome them in

01:24:34.480 name of their

01:24:34.980 values western

01:24:36.140 naivety and

01:24:36.960 suicidal empathy

01:24:37.920 and then there's

01:24:39.120 an increase in

01:24:39.720 violence in brackets

01:24:40.580 savagery and

01:24:42.040 destruction of

01:24:42.600 property through

01:24:43.160 improper use such

01:24:44.220 as indoor fires

01:24:45.300 third worldization

01:24:46.620 we see a lot of

01:24:47.560 this don't we

01:24:48.100 in a lot of

01:24:49.460 European countries

01:24:50.300 closure of the

01:24:51.440 theatre

01:24:51.780 immigration which

01:24:53.080 destroys pre-existing

01:24:54.100 cultural habits

01:24:55.040 impoverishment of

01:24:57.100 collective life

01:24:58.000 impossibility of

01:24:59.320 perpetuating activities

01:25:00.460 which require a

01:25:01.960 certain social

01:25:02.620 functioning and the

01:25:03.840 result is one less

01:25:04.720 public facility

01:25:05.580 employees have

01:25:06.880 left withdrawal into

01:25:08.260 the private and

01:25:08.900 community sphere and

01:25:10.020 the disappearance of

01:25:11.000 pre-existing

01:25:11.500 populations

01:25:12.060 and also the

01:25:12.940 communication of the

01:25:13.940 message that the

01:25:14.760 law cannot be

01:25:15.440 enforced

01:25:15.880 so yeah this is

01:25:17.860 exactly perfect to

01:25:20.220 communicate as an

01:25:22.120 example the impact

01:25:23.500 of mass immigration 0.83

01:25:24.340 more generally

01:25:24.980 because what we

01:25:27.160 actually see here is

01:25:28.780 the fact that all of

01:25:31.120 these principles that

01:25:32.060 happened in the

01:25:32.680 theatre are

01:25:34.300 replicated perfectly in

01:25:35.480 society that a bunch

01:25:37.340 of Africans turn up 0.99

01:25:38.320 doesn't have to be

01:25:39.020 Africans could be from

01:25:40.120 other parts of the

01:25:41.140 world that aren't

01:25:41.740 Europe or North

01:25:42.340 America or East

01:25:43.700 Asia basically

01:25:44.740 anywhere where it's

01:25:46.040 not a developed

01:25:46.800 country they turn

01:25:48.600 up they take over

01:25:50.400 they make things

01:25:52.200 worse because the

01:25:54.120 reason their countries

01:25:55.020 are bad in the first

01:25:55.880 place is because of

01:25:57.060 the virtues of the

01:25:58.500 people themselves

01:25:59.300 they bring those

01:26:00.920 virtues or lack

01:26:02.140 thereof to the

01:26:02.940 country and make it

01:26:04.540 like their home

01:26:05.240 country and that's

01:26:06.440 what's happened here

01:26:07.140 you know there's an

01:26:07.820 increase in violence

01:26:08.600 there's destruction of

01:26:09.360 property they start

01:26:10.540 lighting fires indoors

01:26:11.780 because they don't

01:26:12.820 know how to exist in

01:26:14.500 civilization because

01:26:15.680 what has happened is

01:26:16.940 people who are

01:26:18.400 incapable of existing

01:26:20.280 in a modern society

01:26:22.080 have been brought to

01:26:23.340 one and they just

01:26:24.880 don't have the

01:26:25.780 capability ever to

01:26:26.960 learn how to exist

01:26:28.400 on in to the same

01:26:30.440 capacity as say a

01:26:32.820 French person or a

01:26:33.940 European more

01:26:34.480 generally and this is

01:26:36.340 what happens everyone

01:26:37.320 loses you know they're

01:26:38.680 living like you know a

01:26:41.500 modern-day troglodyte

01:26:42.700 you know living in

01:26:43.900 their fancy French

01:26:44.740 cave lighting fires

01:26:46.400 in there like a

01:26:47.460 hunter-gatherer and

01:26:49.100 the French lose a

01:26:51.200 significant cultural

01:26:53.160 theater and you know

01:26:55.240 trust is broken

01:26:56.440 society breaks down

01:26:58.260 and it's a chip in the

01:27:00.020 sort of crack to the

01:27:01.780 breakdown of civil

01:27:02.940 society and I will add

01:27:05.100 that they have it

01:27:06.960 seems like they had

01:27:07.940 already lost the

01:27:09.000 theater a long time

01:27:10.840 I go at stage two

01:27:12.060 the completely left

01:27:13.340 wing program yes

01:27:14.740 exactly so that's

01:27:16.120 that's the Trojan

01:27:17.300 horse I mean I mean

01:27:18.180 it it is sort of

01:27:19.440 good that because it

01:27:21.660 was used in such

01:27:22.680 left-wing ways I don't

01:27:24.240 feel too bad about it

01:27:25.260 disappearing if it

01:27:26.180 were a proper theater

01:27:27.500 that put on things of

01:27:29.220 cultural import then I

01:27:31.080 would be a bit more

01:27:32.120 angry about this but

01:27:33.720 because it's sort of a

01:27:35.180 taste of their own

01:27:35.800 medicine there's a

01:27:37.260 beautiful irony to it

01:27:38.360 that you know allows

01:27:39.860 you to revel in the

01:27:40.740 suffering of those who

01:27:41.780 brought it upon

01:27:42.320 themselves exactly but

01:27:43.260 there is a tragedy

01:27:44.280 there that although on

01:27:45.640 the individual level it

01:27:47.080 is an issue of poetic

01:27:48.520 justice it unfortunately

01:27:50.520 has lots of social

01:27:52.380 ramifications of course a

01:27:54.040 lot of people are the

01:27:56.140 collateral damage here so

01:27:57.700 whatever we say about

01:27:59.100 poetic justice when it

01:28:00.260 comes to people who do

01:28:01.740 this be it in a house in

01:28:03.860 a neighborhood at a

01:28:04.880 theater or at a country

01:28:06.020 at large it has real

01:28:08.200 life consequences and

01:28:09.480 it's really bad right

01:28:11.600 samson could we have a

01:28:13.320 few more minutes for

01:28:14.340 the for everything

01:28:15.180 excellent thank you so

01:28:18.900 we got any video

01:28:19.600 comments well we can

01:28:22.720 read some regular

01:28:23.280 comments in the meantime

01:28:24.080 I didn't even hear from

01:28:25.500 samson where we have

01:28:26.280 video comments okay he's

01:28:29.340 loading them up never

01:28:30.120 mind I'll read a couple

01:28:30.940 of comments or or do you

01:28:32.220 want to start some of

01:28:33.020 yours and then we'll

01:28:33.800 pick up again yes yes

01:28:35.200 we've gone right so

01:28:36.240 james hoffman rig that's

01:28:38.860 oh here we are never

01:28:39.480 mind uh we've already

01:28:40.620 seen this one oh no

01:28:41.780 haven't no we haven't

01:28:43.220 i've watched that one

01:28:44.100 but not the reaction

01:28:45.300 never mind ignore me

01:28:46.160 carry on 0.95

01:28:46.760 could rip my face off 0.92

01:28:50.500 and there wouldn't be a 0.98

01:28:51.060 great deal i could do

01:28:51.840 about it funny thing i

01:28:52.740 reckon i could take a

01:28:53.560 monkey i feel like the 0.51

01:28:54.640 the monkey they were

01:28:55.460 big ones though they

01:28:56.200 were like what i could

01:28:56.860 take a four foot tall 0.64

01:28:58.000 i'm basically a big

01:28:58.880 monkey i'll take a 0.99

01:28:59.740 monkey about a one-on-one

01:29:02.040 uh bare knuckle boxing

01:29:04.140 match

01:29:04.480 bare knuckle one-on-one

01:29:05.440 to the death

01:29:06.100 what's that halo it looked like it

01:29:23.540 no that's fair the monkey wins

01:29:25.780 i'm willing to see harry try

01:29:28.180 you'll be satisfied only if

01:29:30.620 the united kingdom will take

01:29:31.800 a thousand refugees but we

01:29:33.580 haven't the money for these

01:29:34.500 it all seems so quaint now

01:29:36.040 doesn't it it's funny how

01:29:37.040 even 40 years ago in yes

01:29:38.320 minister is an open secret

01:29:39.440 that the true seat of

01:29:40.340 sovereignty lies in the

01:29:41.380 unelected bureaucracy yet

01:29:42.820 dare publicly utter that

01:29:43.820 truth today and you'll

01:29:44.760 probably be done in for

01:29:45.940 treason hawthorne of course

01:29:47.160 puts in a masterful portrayal

01:29:48.440 of sir humphrey but it gets

01:29:49.440 even better you put it next to

01:29:50.400 his performance in demolition

01:29:51.500 man unknowingly a perfect

01:29:52.840 portrayal of the civil

01:29:53.820 services own transformation

01:29:55.240 from cynical bureaucratic real

01:29:57.020 politic to the glassy-eyed

01:29:58.620 utopian tyrant look you

01:30:00.320 can't take away people's 1.00

01:30:01.200 right to be assholes 0.98

01:30:02.240 great film by the way but 0.98

01:30:06.940 no um good commentary as

01:30:09.300 ever

01:30:09.580 my goodness this is getting

01:30:13.220 terrifying now since i build

01:30:15.660 mechs in real life i figure a

01:30:17.220 good promotional tool would be

01:30:18.560 making a mech video game

01:30:20.000 informed by my experiences

01:30:21.460 i've been fiddling with

01:30:22.880 game makers since 2006 and

01:30:25.140 even though it is not

01:30:26.080 negatively meant for 3d

01:30:27.340 graphics it is surprising

01:30:28.640 what you can squeeze out of

01:30:29.760 it if you're stubborn enough

01:30:31.040 i'll be updating to higher res

01:30:32.620 graphics once all the game

01:30:33.840 systems are complete

01:30:34.840 oh holy god my light my

01:30:36.840 shield my flame

01:30:38.380 don't fall to say less we

01:30:41.640 bear your name

01:30:43.380 best of luck with uh both

01:30:46.440 building your robot army and

01:30:48.260 your game um i know when the

01:30:50.620 robot apocalypse um you know

01:30:52.540 the takeover happens you're

01:30:54.480 going to be made king so who's

01:30:56.320 laughing really right well i'm

01:30:59.080 sure harry's already been

01:31:00.540 excoriated in the comments

01:31:02.120 section as to what we refer to

01:31:04.540 aoc and her coterie of like-minded 1.00

01:31:08.920 morons um they're the squad or 1.00

01:31:12.300 as i like to call them the squat as 1.00

01:31:14.200 in what you do when you take a 0.96

01:31:15.480 crap uh not the click so there you 0.98

01:31:19.280 go harry yep they're the squad 0.99

01:31:21.600 i've heard people calling that

01:31:24.800 before

01:31:25.160 okay okay so james hoffman says

01:31:31.600 uh regarding zelensky wearing a

01:31:33.680 suit you'd think it was a nothing

01:31:35.320 common but then go look and see

01:31:36.960 what he wears when he meets

01:31:38.260 klaus schwab at the wef it's a

01:31:40.440 suit the man's a fake i did see a

01:31:43.260 picture but i also heard that it

01:31:45.340 was from before the war but if it's

01:31:47.500 from after from during the war it's

01:31:49.700 it's it's a it's a it's it's a

01:31:52.580 mistake right so fuzzy toaster

01:31:54.520 karl had a good take on this last

01:31:57.200 night zelensky needs to be shown to

01:31:59.160 be begging the left paradigm needs

01:32:01.400 to know what that the way they do

01:32:03.920 things is over or should be over and

01:32:06.280 zelensky is perfect arbiter of that 0.77

01:32:08.420 if he capitulates um eloise good

01:32:12.600 coverage stelios thank you theodore

01:32:15.520 pinox says the mineral rights deal

01:32:17.920 was a clever move from america's

01:32:19.620 perspective allowing it to recoup the

01:32:22.180 money it gave to the ukraine and

01:32:24.100 dissuade future russian attacks by

01:32:25.880 creating american interests in the

01:32:27.460 region yes i i agree i mean it that's

01:32:29.560 what i said yeah i agree it comes with

01:32:31.880 security things with security right um

01:32:36.660 i yeah however it's also an exploitative

01:32:42.000 and extractative move turning the 0.64

01:32:44.420 ukraine into an economic vassal and

01:32:46.380 stripping ukrainian resources for

01:32:48.600 american profit

01:32:49.440 alex ogle i disagree stelios it was a

01:32:52.620 good idea to televise the trump zelensky

01:32:54.440 meeting at least that part of it it

01:32:56.140 clearly showed the world the disrespect

01:32:58.120 zelensky was displaying and his

01:33:00.680 intransigence i know from talking with

01:33:02.760 my parents over the weekend that the

01:33:04.280 meeting is being misreported in the

01:33:06.280 lying media but trump is all about

01:33:08.440 openness and honesty and that meeting

01:33:10.380 showed off exactly who zelensky is

01:33:12.580 alpha of the beaters the signing of

01:33:17.120 this deal was supposed to be in ukraine

01:33:19.240 zelensky backed out and said he'd sign

01:33:21.860 it in munich in munich he backed out

01:33:24.280 and said he would sign it in the white

01:33:26.080 house in the white house he clearly

01:33:27.580 didn't want to sign it and then after

01:33:29.760 engineering a blow up with a trump admin

01:33:31.960 and andrew nairog also agreed with 1.00

01:33:36.760 stelios the suit argument is stupid 1.00

01:33:38.360 even more so when you take a good look 1.00

01:33:40.920 at elon musk at every white house

01:33:42.840 meeting he has attended zelensky has

01:33:45.380 plenty of better things to criticize than

01:33:47.760 his choice of outfit yep should we go to

01:33:51.480 the second one sure captain charlie

01:33:54.140 the eagle i find all the accusations of

01:33:56.260 the gop being nazis and roman 0.95

01:33:57.860 salutes to be hilarious i mean i don't

01:33:59.860 remember the nazis being so diverse

01:34:01.620 that is true um furious dan says as fun 0.96

01:34:05.500 as it is to take the piss out of the

01:34:07.280 pearl clutching left our allies should

01:34:08.980 refrain from uh unforced optics errors

01:34:11.700 that is true um it is a sort of optics

01:34:15.240 error in my opinion i think that they

01:34:17.620 should be a bit more sensible um it's 0.97

01:34:20.660 kind of dumb and when i remember seeing 0.96

01:34:22.540 first seeing the elon one i'm just like 0.99

01:34:24.180 elon you i know why you've done this

01:34:26.380 because you you you can't contain

01:34:28.860 yourself yeah um i know you don't mean

01:34:31.820 it maliciously but i was just like come

01:34:33.280 on man be a bit more sensible um charles

01:34:36.760 francis um says if we want to be relevant

01:34:39.260 we need to act responsibly um yes

01:34:41.500 drink responsibly i i don't advocate for

01:34:44.580 that i'm afraid dan taylor says tim

01:34:46.580 waltz did the same salute whilst running

01:34:47.900 with kamala harris months before elon did

01:34:49.580 this i know i showed it um you probably

01:34:52.140 commented that before i did um russian 0.99

01:34:55.580 garbage human says pretty girls are 1.00

01:34:57.160 throwing the salute on social media and 1.00

01:34:58.580 you're black billing 0.99

01:34:59.200 she's not pretty did you uh never mind 1.00

01:35:04.520 carry on stelios right then we have here

01:35:07.380 david ward says rehouse the young people 1.00

01:35:09.800 in the country they came from 0.51

01:35:11.340 a sensible suggestions and then back to

01:35:14.660 africa furious dan we can all agree that

01:35:16.700 the french theater experiment is successful

01:35:18.780 and we should repeat it 10 000 times imagine

01:35:21.740 the gdp and we have yeah i think that's

01:35:26.200 everything okay well thank you very much

01:35:28.520 for watching i have managed to stay here

01:35:31.640 without coughing my guts up so that's a

01:35:33.320 good thing um same time tomorrow as

01:35:36.680 always thank you very much for watching

01:35:38.360 and goodbye

01:35:39.320 you

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - March 03, 2025

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1112

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