The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters


The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1114


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The Lotus Eaters are joined by Bo and Harry to talk about the 7th of October and why it's a bad day to be pro-Palestine. Also, we discuss the sale of Islander and the potential for riots in the streets if it doesn't sell out in time.

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00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to podcast of the Lotus Eaters episode 1114. I am very lucky today to be joined
00:00:15.840 by Bo and Harry. Hello. So today we are going to be talking about the failings in the in October
00:00:25.260 7th. The Israeli. 7th of October. Yeah 7th of October. We need to stop with the Americanizations. 1.00
00:00:30.840 I know that they've popularized it as October 7th but it's the 7th of October. I'm actually
00:00:34.840 going to do it. It's like it was the 11th of September. I'm actually going to do a daily
00:00:38.380 video this afternoon on because there's a new executive order out that says that basically
00:00:42.840 English is the language of the United States now. So I'm basically going to teach the Americans how 0.99
00:00:47.660 to speak English because they've. I mean they've not they've not mastered it all these hundreds of
00:00:52.160 years later. But if I'm slipping up that is that is also not. What else are we going to talk about?
00:00:56.180 Oh yes we're going to be talking. Bo is going to do a segment on returning to the moon. That
00:01:01.040 will be very interesting. And J.D. Vance. We got some good memeage there haven't we? Yeah there is
00:01:07.340 some news. But it's mostly memes. It's mostly memes. Yeah that's that's what we need. Very quickly
00:01:12.920 thank you to Cindy Johnson for sending us a book on loving the planet. Appreciate that. We haven't read
00:01:18.920 it yet but we all got a copy. And the Islander. Do remember to buy the Islander. It's been out for a
00:01:25.580 week and we've already sold I think 40 percent. Which means we're selling. We even printed more this
00:01:32.040 time. But at this point last time after a week we'd only sold like you know about 30 percent. So
00:01:38.300 this we even though we got more they are selling quicker. So you're going to have to you know buy it.
00:01:45.020 And they are getting to people promptly this time. Oh yes yes. They are actually. Yes they're
00:01:49.080 actually turning up this time. Which is which is a very positive move. Right okay. We've not been
00:01:53.640 scammed by a distributor this time. That's always nice to know isn't it. So without further ado
00:01:58.600 tell us about a bit of something light-hearted. A bit of. Well Israel-Palestine. Yes. Yeah yeah the
00:02:05.400 desert conflict across the other end of the Mediterranean. We shouldn't really be involved
00:02:09.360 in. But we are. Well of course. Because there are two main wars going on at the moment. We always like to
00:02:14.040 have a mix of wars going on. And we've done a lot of coverage of Ukraine and Russia recently. Because
00:02:19.620 that's where all the excitement's been going with diplomatic talks in the UK. It's a bit topical isn't it?
00:02:23.840 Very very topical. But let's not forget that the other big conflict is still affecting us.
00:02:28.520 And I would say outside of the diplomatic area that Ukraine occupies. On a more ground level
00:02:34.680 in the UK. Because we are da UK. We are no longer Britain. We are no longer England. We live in da UK.
00:02:40.980 And you can't go to any major city without the potential. The high likelihood. Especially
00:02:47.260 if it's a weekend. Running into some kind of pro-Palestinian march. And so it does pervade
00:02:53.840 a lot of society. I remember even before I was up to date with these things. When I was working
00:02:58.580 in a call centre. Of course call centres have a very diverse range of people who work there.
00:03:04.620 There would be people coming in wearing their free Palestine hats. Before I even really knew
00:03:09.460 what was going on there. But outside of the two wars make sure not to get engulfed in the third war
00:03:15.480 that will emerge when Islander sells out. Which it will because it's selling very well right now
00:03:21.520 because it's a very very high quality magazine filled with informative and intellectually stimulating
00:03:27.380 articles that you can get a hold of right now for a limited time on our website for the cheap cheap
00:03:33.220 price of £14.99. If you don't get one now there will be riots in the street trying to get hold of
00:03:40.320 the last few copies. So make sure you avoid that and get it while you still can right now. Anyway so
00:03:46.760 let's take a look at some of the ways that it's affecting our current discourse in the UK with
00:03:53.240 Israel-Palestine. And I think after that I'll also look into why it is that this particular conflict
00:03:58.760 erupted in the first place because we send a lot of money. Obviously not the entire history.
00:04:03.780 Yeah I mean that's going to take a while isn't it? There is a Marta made podcast series that's about
00:04:07.440 30 hours going into that. We're not going to match anything like that. I mean we did a three hour one
00:04:11.580 on the origins of the conflict didn't we? We went back to the Roman times. Start at Moses. Which you
00:04:15.680 should watch. Which you should watch. It's excellent stuff. No more the 7th of October itself because
00:04:22.080 Israel and the IDF have been doing some inquiries recently that have been pointing to the complete and utter
00:04:28.260 failure of the IDF itself and its lieutenant general in charge to pass down information that
00:04:34.720 they already had prior to 2023. Information that they actually had from 2022. They failed to pass
00:04:41.840 down any of that information to the people on the ground who could have prevented the massacre that
00:04:46.340 occurred. So it's interesting that you're bringing this up because I remember that was a very live topic in
00:04:51.220 the days following October the 7th. And it's not been spoken about much since.
00:04:56.080 Yeah there was loads of former IDF people coming up and saying I just don't understand how this
00:05:01.220 possibly could have happened. You know I served in the IDF. It's simply not functionally possible.
00:05:06.420 As far as I know Israel is a very militaristic society because they need to be to defend their
00:05:10.820 borders. They are always on high alert and they as confirmed by the New York Times and other
00:05:16.840 publications and other members of the IDF. They had plans that Hamas strictly stuck to
00:05:23.140 in 2022 explaining exactly what they were going to do on the 7th of October. Maybe not pointing to
00:05:29.240 that date specifically and didn't do anything with it. They dismissed it as as whimsical dreams.
00:05:35.880 Yeah but it's really it's really weird. This story just simply vanished. So I'm glad you're covering it.
00:05:40.840 Whatever you got for us.
00:05:41.940 One of the things I remember and it might be complete conspiracy theory. I don't know.
00:05:46.260 I just remember it being in the news cycle. It might be complete nonsense. I really don't
00:05:50.680 know. But I remember in again in the days after it happened apparently Israel at loads 0.56
00:05:55.560 of their checkpoints or loads of their border walls and things. They've got sort of automatic
00:06:01.000 machine gun type things. And there would seem to be evidence again. It might all be liars
00:06:07.440 and misinformation. I really don't know. But that they would have been de-armed or de-activated
00:06:12.240 or they'd had their ammo taken out or all sorts of suspicious things. And again in the news
00:06:17.800 directly as it the day it was happening and the next few days a week or so. And then never
00:06:22.820 heard anything about that ever again. Yeah. You know whether it was deliberate whether it
00:06:25.960 was like super squirrel Hamas stuff or whether the Israelis did it to themselves because they 0.93
00:06:31.040 wanted some sort of false flag or what. I don't know.
00:06:33.760 That's the question because it seems to me like a complete failure on their part to protect
00:06:41.360 their own citizens which should be the main goal of a government. I know we live in the
00:06:46.060 West. We live in Europe. It's not what we're used to anymore. But Israel seems dedicated to 0.98
00:06:51.220 protecting its citizens and protecting its people. This was a complete failure. So the question
00:06:55.300 is was it due to negligence and bad management essentially? Or is it a more conspiratorially
00:07:03.520 minded allowing something to happen in the hopes that it allows them justification so they can go
00:07:09.940 in and bulldoze Gaza as they have been doing ever since? Or Hamas are the masters of 5D chess 0.88
00:07:14.860 and just completely outwitted them on multiple levels. Presented themselves as retarded, released 0.99
00:07:20.020 the exact plans that they were going to do. Israel dismisses them as too retarded to do it. 0.96
00:07:24.860 Retarded enough to actually go through with it. That would be an incredible plan. I don't know 1.00
00:07:30.560 how you would manage that when you're a bunch of sand people in an open-air prison in the desert. 1.00
00:07:36.580 But, you know, that would be very, very impressive. But before we get on to that, so some of the
00:07:41.780 developments that keep going on recently in the UK is things like this. We've got actors like this
00:07:48.920 one from the Crown called Khalid Abdallah, very, very British name right there, who's been interviewed
00:07:56.300 by the police over attending a pro-Palestine-Gaza rally. Because this is the sort of thing that I want 1.00
00:08:02.740 our cultural representatives, because we're all represented by Khalid Abdallah, to be doing.
00:08:08.980 And he then complained about this by saying that the right to protest is under attack in
00:08:14.220 this country. That's, that's, that's funny. I'm sure he was, he must have been speaking
00:08:20.080 up last August, right?
00:08:21.940 Well, yeah, yeah. Bloody Southport. I mean, does this, is it that the right to protest is
00:08:28.280 something he cares about or only when it's affecting his people? Because I feel like he
00:08:33.220 doesn't consider the people who were killed in Southport his people, if he wasn't out on the streets
00:08:38.780 protesting.
00:08:39.580 So do they routinely, I mean, is it, is it actually illegal to attend a, a Palestinian rally? I mean,
00:08:44.900 would have thought not.
00:08:46.140 So he went to a Palestine, Palestine Solidarity Campaign protest in January, and received a letter
00:08:52.120 from the Met Police, uh, to attend a formal interview, saying it will remain to see if this,
00:08:57.660 to be seen if this results in charges.
00:09:00.080 Oh, right, okay.
00:09:00.760 So, so, so.
00:09:01.400 I feel like he must have done something then. You don't, because you are allowed to just
00:09:05.240 go to that if it isn't peaceful.
00:09:06.020 I thought so, yeah.
00:09:06.640 It's been arranged. That's not illegal, is it?
00:09:09.460 But also, obviously, I disagree with, uh, taking people in by the police for attending
00:09:15.080 a protest, but that's pretty light stuff compared to what was done to everybody in August, right?
00:09:21.980 Oh, yeah.
00:09:22.280 All of the people who were just standing at the side of the road near the police getting
00:09:25.880 hoovered up so that they could say that they'd made arrests.
00:09:28.240 People who said a crossword towards the police jailed for 36 months routine.
00:09:33.120 Yes.
00:09:33.740 Some of whom have died in prison already.
00:09:35.580 Yes.
00:09:36.480 Yes.
00:09:36.900 Yeah.
00:09:37.000 So, uh, thanks very much for that one. We also get it in our universities where we've
00:09:42.380 got protesters disrupting everything that they can, and this will also include idiotic 0.87
00:09:48.660 white English liberals who want to get involved in this so they can feel like they're making
00:09:53.020 a difference. Not that they care about the things happening to their own homeland or their
00:09:57.460 own people, but they want to make a difference. And so, in this, it's Cambridge University have
00:10:02.860 barred them from interrupting a graduation ceremony.
00:10:06.980 Is this a big, is this a thing that lots of Brits have to live with? Is lots of, you
00:10:11.860 know, these, these Palestinian type sympathizers making a lot of noise? I mean, you said you've
00:10:16.720 encountered them a lot in your career.
00:10:18.420 Uh, yeah. When I've been to Manchester on the weekends, they're always there.
00:10:22.580 Depending on which part of London that you're in on a weekend, I'm sure that you'll run into
00:10:25.940 protests all the time. If you're in universities where everybody is already, you know, woke lefty,
00:10:30.860 then you're likely to encounter this sort of stuff. I spent most of my career surrounded by
00:10:35.220 lawyers and finance people, and there wasn't a strong contingent of Palestinian support in that
00:10:41.280 crowd. I imagine there might have been a bit of a problem with snow blindness as well, so it might
00:10:45.200 have, yes. Hazy division a little bit. I went to, I went to Bath a few weeks ago, and yeah, lo and behold,
00:10:51.060 outside Bath Cathedral, there was a little stand, pro-Gaza stand. Right. And so it's, it's a little one, but it's still,
00:10:58.140 yeah. Why should it be in Bath? Why should it be in any of these cities? Even Manchester, I know it's
00:11:05.000 got a reputation as a very miserable industrial place. I still love parts of it, and it is still
00:11:10.100 one of our historic cities. We shouldn't be permeated with this stuff constantly. The BBC as
00:11:15.920 well are in trouble with counter-terror police, because they did a documentary about Palestine,
00:11:22.020 and the production company, Hoyo Films, had a 13-year-old narrator that they paid, and the 13-year-old
00:11:30.760 narrator just happened to be the son of the Hamas deputy minister for agriculture. Oh, right, and how
00:11:38.380 much was he paid? We don't know yet, because it described the sum as limited, but declined to put
00:11:44.580 a value on it. So the BBC just, well, accidentally, a billion pounds, a billion pounds is a limited
00:11:51.780 number. Every number below infinity is a limited number. Well, we just don't know. Yes. We just,
00:11:59.560 we just don't know. I'm sure it wasn't a billion pounds. No. I don't, maybe USAID have been giving
00:12:05.680 a mass. Well, yes, I mean, that's the sort of thing that they did, isn't it? They just,
00:12:08.740 they just channeled money to friends of friends of terrorists. I think Vorsch did that as well. Yeah,
00:12:14.240 I think he's a Twitch streamer. I think he did a charity stream where it turned out the charity
00:12:20.680 was basically Hamas. Right. Wow, I didn't know that. Apparently, it's very difficult not to give
00:12:27.880 money to Hamas. Just when I didn't think I could have a lower opinion of Vorsch. You go and hit me
00:12:35.280 with that one. I mean, I can't believe that you can have a lower opinion of Vorsch. I didn't think I
00:12:40.220 could, but lo and behold. So is he that one who gets his wife cooked on air or is that another
00:12:45.260 one? That was destiny. Oh, I see. Okay. Now, I mean, it's a great shame that there is these
00:12:51.300 desert sort of people fighting amongst themselves. I mean, it is a terrible shame, but it's not really
00:12:57.660 anything to do with me. Oh, yeah. Or by my people. Yeah, why are they, why are they here? Why can't
00:13:02.620 the, why can't all the fighting be done over there if they must fight? Why is the BBC giving money to
00:13:08.220 them? Well, yes. Why is it that they can protest here and they can make stands of solidarity here,
00:13:14.480 but they're not signing up? Well, yes. Which is somewhat like those Ukraine war hawks in Canada.
00:13:21.360 I can think of one. The armchair generals. Yeah, the armchair generals who the second,
00:13:25.100 all the old war hawk boomer types, where you point out, well, I mean, if you're so eager to defend
00:13:31.140 the oblasts and take them back from Russia, you can sign up. It's very, very, apparently that's an
00:13:36.580 emotional and illogical argument. Whereas to me, it makes perfect sense. Meanwhile, there were tens,
00:13:42.380 if not hundreds of thousands of young British lads who were like, I would like to sign up to defend
00:13:46.920 my country if we, if it means defending my borders, but nobody's given me that opportunity. So I can't.
00:13:52.600 Sorry, that's just going to have to be another 800 billion of rearmament for Europe so that we can
00:13:57.340 defend against Russia while flooding all of our countries. Yes. 0.86
00:14:00.540 I mean, you say it's nothing to do with us, but the science PICO agreement, the British mandate in
00:14:07.420 Palestine. So therefore, it's always our problem for the rest of time. So counterpoint, I don't care. 1.00
00:14:14.200 I mean, if we're going to, you know, get the empire back going and decide that they're going to be
00:14:21.460 some kind of British colonial territory that we administer. Yes. Maybe, maybe then I'd be signing
00:14:27.440 up for it and going, yes, please. Adventure, action, excitement. Yes. But no, that's, that's,
00:14:33.600 that's, I wouldn't mind being the viceroy of India, but I think I'd be quite good at it.
00:14:36.520 You do have the constitution for it, I reckon. Give me a stiff collar and a cane and a harem of 0.99
00:14:43.800 women. Havory group. Yes. Yes. Only the best though. Only the best for our Dan. And one of the most
00:14:50.120 annoying things that happened recently was this, as reported by the UK aesthetics page, that this was
00:14:58.840 a beauty spot in the Yorkshire moors where a bunch of people had painted a Palestinian flag. And I think
00:15:05.720 you can see the Palestinian flag on the image underneath. Yep. There you go. Free Palestine,
00:15:11.640 just going to our natural areas of beauty. I know Britain's got a bad reputation, but it is an
00:15:16.540 extremely beautiful country and just defacing it, defacing it with their political propaganda.
00:15:23.980 And when people were annoyed at this, you get responses like this. It's just, it's just a piece
00:15:30.240 of rock. It's just a piece of rock. It seems rather unlikely the Israelis, you know, the Benjamin 1.00
00:15:35.520 Netanyahu is going to be wandering past on his holidays on the Yorkshire moors, see that and
00:15:40.560 immediately recognise the error of his ways. He's going to be hit by a pang of conscience.
00:15:44.320 Yes. It's both just a piece of rock and also worth doing in the first place of defacing our sort
00:15:51.120 of natural beauty. It's the first argument of the retarded shitlib. Yes. The black stone in the 1.00
00:15:57.840 cabal is just a bit of rock. It's just a bit of rock. Yeah. A bit of rock. Don't worry about it.
00:16:02.880 Yeah. Who cares? Like this one, like this, uh, Mr. Bungle right here. Great band says,
00:16:06.720 it's just a book. I'm confused. It's just a book. It's just a flag. Who cares? Checkmate,
00:16:13.200 bitch. Uh, but I have to say this, this story actually has a little bit of a happy ending, 1.00
00:16:20.240 which is that a few gentlemen from a party that I shan't name exactly, uh, actually found the area
00:16:26.800 after they were told where it was and, um, cleaned it up. Oh, good for them. Nice. Yeah. Cleaned it up
00:16:33.760 while also pointing out, and I agree with this, that the people who did this, uh, should be sent back to
00:16:38.760 the desert. If they're so eager for it to be free, well, guess what? You can sign up for the effort
00:16:43.900 right this moment, in fact. But again, with all of this going on where it's just affecting,
00:16:49.120 even in minor ways, people's day-to-day in this country, where there are all these people who
00:16:53.680 are very, very supportive of foreign conflict that, you know, if they were just as English as
00:16:58.640 you and I shouldn't really concern them, shouldn't be at the front of their mind all the time.
00:17:02.640 Again, it's interesting to look into why the 7th of October happened and what started this new phase
00:17:09.520 of the conflict that's been going on for the past few years now. And, uh, that's exactly what Shin Bet,
00:17:15.360 who are the Israel Security Agency, have been looking into. They've been doing an October 7th
00:17:20.800 probe, and it's a report that will be, I think, spoken about on next Tuesday. So regarding some
00:17:27.840 of the stuff that you brought up, regarding some of the military attachments and machine,
00:17:32.480 automatic machine guns that may or may not have been tampered with, I assume they will be touching
00:17:37.520 on that. I would hope that they're touching on that if they want to be thorough. But for the time
00:17:41.680 being, Haaretz have this article talking about what has been found, which is that the investigations,
00:17:49.360 uh, some of which have been published on Monday, had made it clear that Hamas was able to surprise
00:17:53.920 the Israeli military thanks to the decline in procedural discipline and what border units were
00:17:58.800 being called on to do. We forgot how to defend, according to one of the investigators. What Hamas managed 1.00
00:18:04.720 to achieve was fundamental surprise, a coordinated assault of Kaffar, Aza, Nahal Oz, and dozens of
00:18:11.760 other communities and army bases with no relevant intelligence warnings, reaching the forces in the
00:18:17.120 field. From the general staff down to the territorial brigade, people actually were aware of the worrying
00:18:22.880 signs, but they didn't take them seriously enough, nor did they pass this information down to the
00:18:28.240 battalions and companies. So by the sounds of it, a complete procedural failure. And this is a country
00:18:34.560 that much of the West is dedicated to protecting, they occupy probably the biggest foreign lobbying
00:18:40.240 group in the US, and we send them billions of dollars and billions of pounds of aid every year,
00:18:47.680 and this is the kind of, this is the kind of security they're paying for themselves.
00:18:53.200 They say this fundamental surprise caught the units on the front line in an impossible position of
00:18:57.120 inferiority, low preparedness, moderate fitness, and missing weaponry. I think you, uh, this might be
00:19:02.560 something you mentioned. Almost none of the troops were equipped with hand grenades, much less anti-tank
00:19:07.040 missiles, nor did they have enough machine guns. Hamas's operational analysts were smart enough to 0.98
00:19:12.240 locate every route for reinforcing the area under assault, and the terror organization deployed ambushes
00:19:17.920 in critical locations that delayed the arrival of reinforcements. Now I believe that because of all of these
00:19:23.680 failures, the lieutenant general of the IDF is stepping down, he's resigning because he's saying that this
00:19:29.520 was such a complete horrific failure on his part to inform the battalions and the companies who should
00:19:35.600 have known that they were under direct threat of being assaulted, as is what happened, and they're getting
00:19:41.280 somebody else in now. Um, but it's very very interesting again when you pair this up with the fact that
00:19:47.840 that they had access to the plans in at least as early as 2022, according to this.
00:19:55.840 What, the plans for October 7th?
00:19:57.840 Yes.
00:19:58.240 I know I can be accused, it could be said I'm being distasteful, but how suspicious are you,
00:20:06.880 or is it too cynical of me to think it was deliberate?
00:20:10.960 I think that's a fair question.
00:20:14.960 The failure to pass down the intelligence.
00:20:16.960 Because there are a few other things.
00:20:18.960 Oh yeah.
00:20:20.960 That's all you need to do often to create a false flag or to create an incident is just
00:20:26.960 simply allow something to happen. Like before now I've said I thought that 9-11 was an inside job,
00:20:32.160 people say, you're mad, those 19 terrorists, we know they were like Egyptian, Jordanian, Saudi
00:20:36.880 Arabia, and of course they're not CIA assets. I'm like, yeah, no, I don't think they are.
00:20:43.040 No, of course.
00:20:43.440 I think they were genuine Islamists, but they were just allowed to do, like the fact that 1.00
00:20:46.960 Jack Ruby was allowed access to Lee Harvey Oswald. The fact that Hamas were allowed to do this. 0.99
00:20:52.880 It's a bit like that sport, whatever it is, the one where somebody throws something on ice,
00:20:56.560 and then people just scrub in front.
00:20:57.920 Curling.
00:20:58.640 Yeah, curling. It's that. I'm not suggesting the CIA through the curl, I'm saying they scrub the thing in front.
00:21:06.800 I do think it's a fair question to ask, and because people always get squeamish talking about this
00:21:12.240 particular nation, I think it's fair to point out that this is not something that would be unique
00:21:17.680 to Israel's government. This is something that governments do, because governments in the modern
00:21:23.040 era are almost explicitly, most of the time, against the representative wishes of the people,
00:21:28.880 and willing to do heinous things to advance their own plans. And what has been going on at the same
00:21:34.240 time? Well, since Assad has been kicked out of Syria, they've claimed territory in Syria while
00:21:40.480 all of this is going on. They've started to claim more territory from the West Bank. They're bulldozing
00:21:45.120 Gaza. Donald Trump, I think they're in a ceasefire at the moment, and they have put some kind of food
00:21:52.880 blockade to the Gazans, who are still in the territory right now, to try to force them to accept the peace
00:21:59.040 steels that they have put forward, which is essentially what Donald Trump has agreed to,
00:22:03.760 which is just relocate all of them and pave over Gaza and turn it into some kind of sunset strip 0.98
00:22:10.560 casino base. Taken bits of Lebanon, forced the issue with Iran, which is something Neti has always, 0.91
00:22:17.600 always coveted. And prior to this, Netanyahu is still in the middle of a huge corruption trial that
00:22:24.080 started all the way in 2020 that had to be postponed for a time. Well, at least we know
00:22:29.360 this report won't be corrupt. Yeah, yeah. At least we know that. This one definitely won't be a
00:22:34.960 whitewash. Definitely. Yeah. And it does because Netanyahu's been trying to, you know, like buy
00:22:39.920 positive media coverage for himself for ages. These are the charges that he's been charged with,
00:22:45.600 a number of other charges as well, including accepting tens of thousand dollars of cigars and
00:22:51.040 champagne from a Hollywood billionaire producer, which to be fair is, is a pretty cool bribe to
00:22:57.520 take. It's true. I wouldn't say no. I don't, I don't mind being convicted of bribery as long as the
00:23:04.080 bribe was a cool one. Yeah, exactly. If someone gave you like $10,000 of cigars, are you, are you saying no?
00:23:11.280 Yeah, I hate cigars. But still, champers, I'll take the shampoo. I'll take the... You'll take the shampoo?
00:23:16.880 Champagne. Do you need that? I call champagne shampoo sometimes, for a lot.
00:23:21.360 Okay, just because you miss it. I take the champers. You've not had to say that word in too long.
00:23:25.200 I don't actually buy much actual shampoo, yeah. I don't need to. Right, there are, there is lots of
00:23:31.120 purple on the, um, on the rumble rants, which we, which we very much appreciate. Oh yes.
00:23:36.240 Very much. I didn't even realize they're color-coded. Oh yeah, no. Basically, purple, I don't know if there's
00:23:41.680 better than purple, but I think purple is the best I've seen so far. So the binary surfer, who's actually in
00:23:46.960 green, uh, many of these, um, career... Who's called out their binary? Yeah. Well, he's a good chap, so that's
00:23:53.440 all right, he can green it up. Um, many of these, uh, career protesters claim a lot of benefits, but you're also
00:23:58.960 funded via NGOs, which are funded by taxes, so you're basically paying for them to F up your day. Yes, well,
00:24:04.880 that's a good point. I mean, really, the position of a, of a, of a true-born Englishman should be,
00:24:09.920 you know, I don't care, you know, these, these are people, you know, fighting in a foreign land
00:24:13.360 about a foreign issue. Yeah. Just to finish off the point that I was making... Oh, right.
00:24:18.000 ...moved on to rumble rants... Oh, sorry. Yes, this is not a criticism of the people of Israel,
00:24:23.120 this is a criticism of the government for either, as could be speculated, allowing this to happen,
00:24:29.600 or, or being so lax as to, uh, just completely fail in their duty to protect their own citizens,
00:24:36.320 because innocent people did die over this. Yes, yes. And so that's just the point that I wanted to
00:24:41.440 make, and I think if this is the return in investment that we're getting for all the money
00:24:45.040 that we send over there, that Israel citizens should also be questioning, what the hell are
00:24:49.600 you doing here? Yes, no, fair point. Um, uh, Mr. Denton, one of it, this is one of those lovely
00:24:55.600 purple ones, um, is, is the anecdote to obnoxious protesters is shame and humiliation. Um, Israel 0.99
00:25:03.280 uses sewage cannons on them, but maybe start off with tomatoes if you don't have a can. Well,
00:25:07.680 I like that, yes, sewage cannons on, on protesters. Yes. Um, by these protests, we don't like. Yes.
00:25:14.480 Yeah. Oh, yeah, exactly. Obviously, yes. Binary server, uh, read the Hamas attack on Israel,
00:25:17.840 those automated, um, drone guns are mobile, belt-fed, and fully loaded. They literally
00:25:22.560 fire on anything in the range that doesn't have a friendly radio frequency. Yeah, but how confident
00:25:27.520 would you feel if, if somebody said, look, here's your, here's your little radio pack,
00:25:30.960 go and wander around in front of a thing that's on a hair trigger that fires at anything.
00:25:34.880 You'd be thinking, well, what, what if the battery went, or the signal get interrupted?
00:25:39.120 Well, there's just gremlins in the summer. Yeah.
00:25:41.760 Like ED-209 from Robocop. Yeah.
00:25:43.840 Suddenly you have 10 seconds to complain. All the bird lands on the sensors.
00:25:47.200 So I'm not sure I like that idea. Um,
00:25:49.200 still fang with another one of those lovely purple ones. Um, last night, Democrats proved
00:25:54.240 they don't care about the American people. They didn't stand up for the Americans, uh,
00:25:58.320 that have been hurt in some way. They are corrupt, uh, vile tyrants. Yes.
00:26:02.640 What happened with the Democrats last night?
00:26:04.480 I, well, they're just always bad.
00:26:05.760 I was, I was going to say, is this any different from the way than Democrats normally are?
00:26:09.360 Um, and, and, um, uh, last we've got, um, the neo-unrealist.
00:26:13.360 The problem with the false flag narrative is Israel never needed an excuse to invade
00:26:17.600 Gaza. I've lost track of how many times in 30 years, even a foiled attack would have resulted
00:26:22.400 in the same operation. I mean, no, that's absolutely, that's absolutely fair. I do think
00:26:28.080 it is speculation on, uh, on that. And if the Israel, if the IDF's own inquiries are saying that
00:26:33.680 it was just a complete massive failure on their part, I mean, that doesn't look great for them
00:26:37.760 either. People are losing their jobs over this. Yeah. Yeah. Usually I don't, uh, chalk things
00:26:44.320 up to incompetence, just pure incompetence usually, but sometimes, uh, it, it just is
00:26:50.160 quite remarkable that they had, they had detailed plans of the Hamas plan for the 7th of October,
00:26:56.880 didn't pass them down to anybody. And these plans even had detailed logistical information
00:27:01.680 regarding the IDF that could only have come from leaks. And they just decided, eh, not our problem,
00:27:09.200 not our problem.
00:27:14.080 All right. So a bit more science and space news. You know, I love a bit of space news.
00:27:19.840 I like doing history segments, space segments, foreign policy segments. I'm your man for that.
00:27:24.560 Dave. You're hurting me, Dave. I can feel it. Um, Carl can't watch 2001 A Space Odyssey. It's his
00:27:32.240 greatest failing. What do you mean he can't watch it? He can't watch it. He, he can't get through
00:27:37.200 it because he finds it too boring. Oh. There's, I imagine there's just a little champion, chimpanzee
00:27:43.120 banging tambourines in his brain. To be fair, it is a bit boring. Very long cut scenes of very poor
00:27:48.080 quality special effects. Wrong. Incorrect terrible take. Poor quality special effects. Now, now,
00:27:53.920 now you're just doing it on purpose. No, it's a great film. No wonder you think the moon landings
00:27:59.040 was faked. Because of also poor quality special effects. But it was directed by the same guy,
00:28:07.840 clearly though. It was like late 60s, was it? It came out? 69, yeah. It's revolutionary. It
00:28:13.600 still looks great today. Bad really for the late 60s. Anyway, we are, uh, returning to the moon or at
00:28:19.360 least unmanned probes, landers, uh, and rovers and drones and things. We go, we, we, moon stuff is
00:28:28.640 happening. In the last week or so, 10 days or so, three different, uh, landers have gone up and, uh,
00:28:35.120 and, uh, uh, an orbiter. I'm sorry, that was the best way to put it. What? Moon stuff is happening.
00:28:40.400 Breaking. Moon stuff. Sorry, carry on. You heard it here first, moon stuff. So, would you like a bit
00:28:47.280 of moon stuff? What? Yeah. Yeah. It's cool. I mean, it's, it's, I mean, not a planet or anything,
00:28:53.680 but it's, you know. I'd like to own a little bit of a lunar regolith, you know, like a little thing
00:28:59.440 that you put on the shelf. Yeah. Yeah, that'd be cool. A lot of those later turn out to be petrified
00:29:03.520 wood, but, but yeah. Maybe, maybe you'll get one out of this set of trips. Yeah. Well,
00:29:09.920 so the idea is that we're going to go back, go to the moon. Yes. Um, but like hundreds,
00:29:18.000 thousands of times, if we're to build, um, a permanent moon base, permanent moon station
00:29:24.400 that's semi-permanently manned with a lunar orbiting station, all these things are required
00:29:31.280 if we're going to go to Mars, you see? So if we're going to, if we're going to do all of that,
00:29:35.440 we actually need quite a lot of infrastructure on the moon. We need to be able to land and take
00:29:39.200 off from the moon hundreds and hundreds of times. Right. So, um, so we, we just need to,
00:29:46.560 we need to sort of start doing that because the Artemis three mission, that's the big one,
00:29:51.360 which is scheduled for 2027. I suspect it will get pushed back a year or two, but at the moment,
00:29:57.120 slated for 2027, um, a manned crew is supposed to be going to the moon, the Artemis three mission.
00:30:05.520 Um, so before they can, and they'll be landing at the South pole of the moon.
00:30:09.600 Have they picked the astronauts? Yes.
00:30:14.480 It's, it's, it's a shame that they're not going to be more famous than they should be.
00:30:18.160 Yeah. They're not already sort of well-known names and faces. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I think they will
00:30:24.320 be, if we do go back to the moon, if we do go to the moon. Yeah. Bo, Bo, it's all right. I'm here.
00:30:31.680 You don't have to placate him. It's fine. I just see his eyes. If whenever I say go back,
00:30:36.000 he can't tear his eyes. I'm not, I'm not even, I'm not even doing it. I'm surrounded. I'm not even
00:30:40.240 doing a segment today. I just had to sit on this one so I could do the air quotes for the return.
00:30:43.840 Um, so when we, when we return to the moon, I'll find out,
00:30:48.160 after when we were there in the, in the sixties and seventies, um, um, which we have recorded
00:30:53.440 footage. We need to have a lot of things in place. So they think, so one of the main things
00:30:59.520 is looking for water on the moon. Right. Because if you can find water, even if it's under the
00:31:04.320 surface and even if it's ice, um, you can then do all sorts of clever chemical things
00:31:09.440 and separate into oxygen and hydrogen and make all sorts of rocket fuel and air, rocket fuel
00:31:13.520 and air and all sorts of things. And for even hydroponics growing things potentially
00:31:18.800 on, on the moon, all sorts of stuff. You're going to have a manned or semi permanently manned
00:31:24.160 base. You're going to need ice. Right. So we, they think that there's the best chance of that
00:31:29.040 is at the South pole inside craters, often inside craters that are permanently in shade.
00:31:34.480 Weirdly, there's actually ice on mercury. Yeah. Yeah. For the same reason inside craters that have
00:31:42.160 never seen the sun. Because mercury is tidily locked to the sun, the way the moon is tidily
00:31:48.320 locked to the earth. I.e. the same face always shows us. So yeah, on the dark side of mercury,
00:31:53.840 yeah. It's open space and sort of always has been. So it can be quite nippy actually.
00:31:58.240 Yeah. Can be a bit nippy. Yeah. Even though you're right next to the sun basically. So,
00:32:01.920 okay. So, uh, sending up also my mouse doesn't seem to be working. Can we scroll down on this?
00:32:06.880 First few links just to show people that it is in the news cycle. Oh,
00:32:10.400 You've told them to buy, you've told them to buy Islander, haven't you?
00:32:12.480 I must interrupt myself to say, buy Islander magazine, the third issue of the Lotus Eaters magazine,
00:32:19.200 Islander. Uh, it will get you on time for the low, low price of $14.99 with, uh, some,
00:32:27.120 some, some great writers in there. Are you in there? I'm not in there. This one, uh,
00:32:32.400 should be in the next one. I have been in it before. Uh, but there's, there's AA, Luca,
00:32:40.080 Carl himself, the big man himself. Uh, who's the, uh, the golden one? Oh, the golden one is,
00:32:47.440 Oh God. Uh, Marcus Fallin. Marcus Fallin. And I can only read his articles in his voice,
00:32:54.480 which makes them very funny. So do buy, do consider buying Islander. Uh, 1.00
00:32:58.880 you can keep it on your coffee table full time. Um, okay. So first few links just to show that it's in
00:33:05.920 in the news. Um, there you go. So one of the, one of the three landers that's gone up very recently,
00:33:12.560 Blue Ghost, it's called, uh, Firefly Aerospace is the company. So yeah, some people think,
00:33:19.360 oh, it's just Bezos and Elon. I was going to ask which eccentric billionaire is funding this?
00:33:25.600 There's, there's loads of these companies. There's loads. Yeah. I'll talk about some later,
00:33:28.880 but this, this one's called Firefly. Right. And, um, that was a great series. It got cancelled
00:33:33.840 well, well, well, well too soon. Never watched it. Great. I never watched it. This mouse just simply
00:33:38.800 is dead. Is that the most, the most that you know about space? Can, can you pass me that?
00:33:45.440 I'm going to pass it to Bo. Why do we constantly have mouse issues on this podcast?
00:33:52.240 It's because you turn it on. That's why. Oh, I assumed it was already. Oh, all right. So
00:33:58.640 very forceful, Dan. I did notice something about this, uh, this little picture that we've got on
00:34:05.200 the top of this article here, which is that, um, you know, obviously you require a ridiculous, oh,
00:34:10.240 sorry. You require a ridiculous amount of competence to be able to pull something like this off.
00:34:16.480 And I noticed it wasn't very diverse. Oh, right. Well, that's, I don't know if that means anything.
00:34:22.800 I mean, if, if, if watching Hollywood has told me anything, it's that you don't succeed without a
00:34:28.960 diverse set of scientists. That was that Ridley Scott film, right? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. The Martian.
00:34:35.200 Thank God Donald Glover was there to save the day.
00:34:38.720 Thanks for treading water there while I was having a problem.
00:34:41.280 Well, you turned the mouse on.
00:34:43.520 Sorting my document out. Uh, okay. So, uh, yeah, it's, it's gone to the moon and it had,
00:34:48.000 had a little lander on it. And, um, I mean, real sceptics would say that's just some set somewhere.
00:34:54.240 Um, or it's just all not real or, you know, the heavens are only 200 feet higher or whatever.
00:35:00.320 I don't know. I've got a comment who says that. Yeah. Uh, so, uh, but there's other ones on,
00:35:04.560 on a Falcon nine, a dedicated SpaceX Falcon nine went up the other day and that had two things
00:35:09.840 on it. Athena, uh, which was another lander and a trailblazer, uh, which was an orbiter,
00:35:17.440 both looking for water ice. Uh, that's the, that if you believe it, that's an image from the surface
00:35:24.320 of the moon. Oh, I believe you. I believe you. It's okay. That's the earth. I believe in current
00:35:29.520 year, we have the technology to pull off this. That's supposed to be the earth. If you're
00:35:33.200 credulous enough to believe that. Is the earth even real? This is a, it's a bit round for me,
00:35:40.000 bro. Shouldn't it just be a flat disc on the back of a tortoise? Where's the ice wall?
00:35:49.120 Um, so they're looking for, they're looking for the wall, the wall trust and there's all sorts of
00:35:52.720 other, um, all sorts of other experiments on it. Um, in fact, the Athena has got a small,
00:35:58.560 what they call a micro drone called grace. I think it's like a mini rover thing. I don't
00:36:03.280 think it's one of the helicopter things like they had on Mars. Um, uh, yeah, go back one,
00:36:10.560 go back this one. So that's, that's, that's Athena. Um, yeah, created by intuitive machines.
00:36:17.440 So that's another one of these companies, Dan intuitive machines, not SpaceX. It's their own thing.
00:36:23.280 There was actually, um, an IM one, which failed. They sent that up, uh, I think last year and it
00:36:29.440 kind of, it kind of failed. Someone dropped the ball and there was some minor technical problem
00:36:34.000 and it sort of kind of crashed when it landed one of its feet. It looks very similar to that.
00:36:39.760 That is a massive F up. I mean, if, I mean, if you're working at a place like this,
00:36:43.840 you might occasionally forget to press record and like people just talk for Harvard,
00:36:47.760 but imagine if you're working at a company and you did something resulted in your 200 billion
00:36:53.200 dollar probe, just like smashing into a rock or something. You feel like a right prat for ages,
00:36:57.600 wouldn't you? Yeah, you would. Yeah. It's much less than 200 billion. Incidentally,
00:37:01.040 that's part of the story is that these things are way, way cheaper than everything used to be.
00:37:05.440 Uh, because NASA has got a program where they, uh, where they, what it's called,
00:37:13.040 uh, commercial lunar payload services or clips, which is NASA working in unison with private
00:37:21.840 people. So someone like SpaceX builds the rocket and pays for the rocket. Uh, some other company
00:37:27.600 like intuitive machines will actually build the lander and pay for all of that. There's loads of
00:37:33.680 these companies, series robotics, blue origin, deep space systems, astrobotic technology,
00:37:39.360 Draper, Lockheed Martin space, moon express, Sierra Nevada corporation. And there's more. Um,
00:37:46.320 they will build all the landers and do everything. And NASA just build the sort of oversee it all 0.98
00:37:53.040 and bring light it all. And they will just build sort of the, the science instruments and they still
00:37:58.720 control JPL. So they still control the data coming back and all sorts of things. So in other words,
00:38:03.120 in other words, another way of saying it, NASA is just outsourcing loads of the cost,
00:38:07.120 loads and loads of the cost. That's some really nice, inspiring philanthropy.
00:38:12.480 Yeah. Yeah. I'm glad, I'm glad that they do that. That's, that's good for them.
00:38:15.920 Because that's what they've done with the low earth orbit thing. That's why
00:38:18.240 SpaceX can sort of exist. It's because the NASA used to have a complete lock on it.
00:38:23.920 Right. Yeah. They say, no,
00:38:25.360 everything that goes into orbit is NASA or perhaps a push, the US air force.
00:38:30.000 Well, then there was a whole period where the Russians dominated it.
00:38:33.200 Oh, sorry. I just mean in, in the United States.
00:38:35.280 Oh yeah. Yeah.
00:38:36.320 But it used to be the case. I imagine if you approach NASA in like 1982 and said,
00:38:40.160 I'm a billionaire and I want to launch my own stuff into low earth orbit. They'll be like, no,
00:38:45.200 that's, that's our domain. No, go home. But now, because they've run out of money and various things,
00:38:50.880 they'll let someone like SpaceX or Blue Origin or whoever do their own thing. So now a mission like
00:38:56.960 this only costs, say only, but costs like a hundred million or something rather than billions and billions.
00:39:02.400 That is surprisingly cheap. Yeah. Yeah. I would like to think within 10 years I could afford one.
00:39:06.320 All right. Yeah.
00:39:07.280 Yeah. Then you can go test it out for yourself.
00:39:11.200 Is that moon really up there as he brings his butter knife and crackers with him?
00:39:17.840 Was Wallace lying to me?
00:39:21.120 Yeah. It's made out of Wensleydale.
00:39:24.320 Yeah. So there's, there's loads of, there's loads of things that they're testing. They want
00:39:28.320 to make sure that at the South Pole, they need to do lots and lots of experiments at the South Pole,
00:39:32.160 basically, because we're going to build a base there, almost certainly, and keep landing and
00:39:37.200 taking off from there. So they need to make sure that there really, there definitely is lots of ice
00:39:42.000 there. If we're building a base in the South, we're going to have to kick the Nazis out first, 0.75
00:39:46.320 right? Oh yeah, sure, sure. Yeah, of course.
00:39:47.840 The Nazi space base will have to be dismantled. Dismantled, yeah. I'm sure they'd be considerate
00:39:54.480 neighbors. Bruce Lee and Elvis can help us. They've both been spotted under me.
00:39:59.760 JFK as well. Let's not leave him out. He and Elvis have been staying in the same elderly home 0.75
00:40:04.480 together. Bruce Lee, Elvis and JFK in the Nazi moon base. They say they need to do experiments 0.87
00:40:11.760 on sort of the, the radioactivity, light conditions, dust, need to do loads more experiments on just
00:40:16.800 like the dust. When retro rockets, when rockets blast the earth, the lunar surface, when they touch
00:40:22.880 down, you need to do loads of experiments on that. For example, apparently it's very, very difficult,
00:40:26.800 almost impossible to model in a computer. You have to actually do it for real and measure things.
00:40:31.520 Why do you need to know where the dust goes? Well, there's loads of reasons. If you get
00:40:35.280 moon regolith in the wrong thing, it could be disastrous. Yeah, that's really important.
00:40:41.920 So, and yeah, and just lots of other, lots of other experiments. So I just think we're living in an
00:40:46.880 exciting time. Oh yeah, that's the great Scott Manley. Play this without any, without any audio.
00:40:54.880 There's just some things to look at while we're chatting. So yeah, there's been quite a few,
00:40:59.440 there's, there was a lander called Peregrine. That was an, an astrobotics technology one,
00:41:06.080 which went up not too long ago. Unfortunately, that failed. Things often fail. That's the other
00:41:11.520 thing. More missions that have gone to the moon have failed than haven't. Yeah.
00:41:16.560 Like loads and loads of missions that have been to Mars over the years. I'm talking since like the 1970s.
00:41:21.760 Loads of them have failed. Well, it's, it's, it's genuinely hard to do this stuff. So you expect
00:41:26.480 a failure rate, even if the best people are doing it. It's just jolly fortunate that wherever it is,
00:41:30.800 the seven times that people went, they all worked flawlessly first time.
00:41:36.720 Apart from Apollo 13 and Apollo 1 and some of the Gemini emissions and some of the Mercury missions.
00:41:45.360 Didn't lose any people on the moon though, did they? No, he was lucky. Very lucky. Yeah.
00:41:49.520 Yeah. Very lucky. Very lucky indeed. Very lucky. Very lucky.
00:41:52.320 You can, you can present as much counter evidence as you want. It's just more evidence for him somehow.
00:41:58.640 Um, well, I think the point stands, but okay. Fair enough.
00:42:01.280 So there was the Perikin lander. There was that IM1, which they called Odysseus, which fell over,
00:42:06.400 unfortunately. Um, yeah, the, the Firefly Aerospace, that thing, the, uh, Blue Ghost.
00:42:12.080 Uh, the Japanese are sending, well, Japanese company called iSpace have sent up a Hakuto R2.
00:42:18.800 Again, that's, that's, um, in space at the moment on its way. Uh, so, uh, the Japanese are getting in on it. 1.00
00:42:25.600 Um, I think that was sent up on a Falcon 9. So, um, so we live in, in an interesting time of space exploration,
00:42:34.080 and particularly the moon. We've got to do loads of stuff with and on the moon before we can go to Mars.
00:42:39.840 Um, and so all of it is, as I said before, is leading up to the big one, Artemis 3.
00:42:45.680 And I wonder if, uh, there'll be enough evidence there for, for people to believe that.
00:42:52.000 Because lots of people think we're not even in low Earth orbit, don't they? They think that, like, the International Space Station.
00:42:56.400 Oh, we obviously are, yeah. Yeah. Crazy people.
00:42:59.360 Um, yeah. Some people think the International Space Station is also just, uh, a PSYOP and obviously fake.
00:43:07.280 No, that's definitely real.
00:43:09.680 Okay. Um.
00:43:11.840 I just think it's a shame those people won't be a bit more famous for having the, um, you know.
00:43:17.440 When it happens.
00:43:18.480 Yeah, when it happens.
00:43:19.440 Because there's people, uh, the odd person like me that will sort of try and make a big
00:43:23.440 song and dance out of it, but the mainstream media don't really talk about it all that much.
00:43:26.800 However, one day in 2027 or after that, it will just be sort of in the news cycle fairly suddenly.
00:43:35.440 We've landed on the moon.
00:43:36.400 Like, those that are watching it and follow it and watch space channels and science channels,
00:43:40.320 they'll know it's coming and be counting the days until Artemis 3, like I was with James Webb and stuff.
00:43:46.320 But for the most people, they won't be aware. And suddenly it will be on like BBC and, uh,
00:43:52.400 it will be everywhere in the mainstream news cycle that, oh, actually there's, there's dudes on the moon again.
00:43:57.520 Off for the, off for the first time. Sorry. Sorry.
00:44:00.560 Punches.
00:44:01.040 Um, I think, I think it's again.
00:44:02.880 Um, but I suppose, uh, the broadest point to make is that human progress is still going forward.
00:44:11.920 There's this narrative, isn't there? This sort of, um, pessimistic Duma narrative that everything is
00:44:17.120 sliding backwards. That sort of the higher watermark of human civilization was what just sort of post-World
00:44:23.600 War II times. Um, and everything's sliding backwards. We're regressing. Well, people are
00:44:29.840 getting stupid. Like literacy rates are going down. People are more stupid than they used to be.
00:44:35.360 I think the point is, no, there's like a bifurcation. One set, one, one set of humanity is becoming much more
00:44:43.840 sophisticated and clever and, uh, achieving yet more wonderful things. Whilst another set is becoming
00:44:51.920 dumber and less literate and more backward and barbaric. 0.98
00:44:56.080 If only there was some sort of way.
00:44:57.040 Both things are happening at once. Both things are happening at once.
00:44:59.200 If only there was some sort of way to distinguish between those people.
00:45:01.360 I, I, I feel as though the forced, um, the forced living space of being shared by both of those might
00:45:07.600 explain why certain countries' literacy rates and height and other metrics seem to be going down.
00:45:14.480 Less so, less so than like an English person being dumber than they used to be. I think 1.00
00:45:18.320 English people are just as smart as they always were.
00:45:20.320 Yeah, yeah.
00:45:20.880 I mean, on the, on the point of progress, we have had a period of the last sort of 20 years or so,
00:45:25.040 where the best and the brightest have often been attracted and gone into the world of electrons.
00:45:31.920 So basically the software, there has been process, uh, progress, but it's been like delivering software.
00:45:37.840 Whereas we're kind of now entering a period where atoms are making a return,
00:45:41.760 where people are doing actual stuff rather than software.
00:45:45.360 And it's nice to see the balance tip to, you know, people doing progress in something that
00:45:50.480 which is actually tangible.
00:45:51.520 Yeah.
00:45:52.640 Yeah, no, I agree.
00:45:53.840 No, it's nice.
00:45:54.400 I've feared that, um, the same reason why architecture isn't as great as it used to be,
00:46:00.800 or one of the main reasons is just money. There's not much profit to be made in building a fantastically,
00:46:07.040 a giant, fantastically ornate naval hospital, right? For example, at Greenwich, there was,
00:46:13.280 there's a naval academy stroke hospital, which is like one of the most fantastic examples of architecture ever.
00:46:19.520 You wouldn't, that wouldn't get made these days, not because we're not capable of it,
00:46:23.200 not because we don't have the imagination, but there's no money to be made in doing it.
00:46:26.480 So it's just not really going to happen.
00:46:28.400 Whereas back in like the 18th century or something, it wasn't necessarily about that.
00:46:32.480 It wasn't about profit as much. So a lot of the nicest buildings in America were just
00:46:36.720 incredibly rich philanthropists saying, I want a nice building here. I'll make it a library.
00:46:41.120 With their names slapped all over the top of them.
00:46:43.360 Yeah, fair play to it. If they paid for the whole thing, I'd say that's their right.
00:46:47.280 Oh yeah, no, absolutely.
00:46:48.080 Extending that analogy, I feared that I might live through an age where we wouldn't really rekindle
00:46:55.120 much exploration and lots and lots of time and energy and political will spent on
00:46:59.200 space projects because it's not profitable enough. Well, it looks like now that there are,
00:47:07.040 well, there is definitely a commercial interest, big, massive commercial interest in going to the
00:47:13.440 moon, going to asteroids, going to Mars and on. The exploration of the entire solar system,
00:47:20.240 essentially. I mean, it's almost like the moons of Jupiter and Saturn are sort of perfect
00:47:26.400 stepping stones in a way. It's almost as if it was laid out for us to do it that way.
00:47:32.800 But the first thing is to get a permanent settlement on the moon and get used to going to the moon and
00:47:40.880 back regularly as though it's sort of nothing. I mean, that's the idea that SpaceX and Elon has got,
00:47:46.720 that there's sort of a fleet of starships in low earth orbit and they're shuttling back and forward to
00:47:52.640 the moon loads. There's dozens of them. They're taking off and landing, obviously reusable. That's
00:47:58.960 taking off from the earth to low earth orbit and to the moon and back just so it's just completely
00:48:03.760 as routine. I mean, at the completely the other end of the spectrum, I had to make the point on
00:48:07.360 yesterday's podcast that car attacks in Germany are now so frequent that they don't even linger on
00:48:12.400 the news. You know, they just drop immediately off the news. Instead, it'd be much better if we lived in
00:48:17.040 a world where flights to the moon were so frequent where they just dropped off the news. That would
00:48:23.120 be us going in the right direction for once. Yeah. It looks like hopefully that will happen and
00:48:29.680 fingers crossed in not that long a time, it won't be 30 years before that's a reality, I think, I hope.
00:48:35.760 Yeah. Might be as few as five to 10 years where there's SpaceX starships in low earth orbit being
00:48:44.880 refuelled all the time and we actually go to Mars before I die of old age. It just might happen.
00:48:54.880 So, okay, that's that segment. Oh, right. Let's have a read through some of the rumble rants.
00:49:00.560 Right. Skittenhund says, I have the same shirt as you, Harry, but I'm curious if people also
00:49:09.840 call you Wednesday Adams or if it's just me. Well, that's a very kind compliment. Last time
00:49:14.320 I wore an outfit like this on the podcast, I was called the only Weasley to ever get into Slytherin
00:49:19.840 because I am a trendsetter. The movie Moon should be on your list to watch. Watch Sam
00:49:26.720 Rockwell's character work on a moon base where he mines helium three and sends it back to earth.
00:49:30.800 Yeah, I've watched that. It's very good. And goes mad. Yeah, I've seen it. I've seen it a couple
00:49:34.000 of times. It's David Bowie's son, his directorial debut. Is that right?
00:49:37.200 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I quite like Sam Rockwell. He's quite good in stuff.
00:49:40.640 Yeah. Yeah. Um, SpaceX is 90% of the world's rocket launches into space. One of the reasons why
00:49:46.480 Starlink, um, it had now has 5 million users. Yeah. Musk is absolutely dominating,
00:49:54.240 which is why they find it difficult to shut him up because they need him in the deep state.
00:49:58.560 There's Falcon 9 and the Falcon Heavy, but, um, yeah, we'll see the Soyuz goes a lot. And
00:50:04.880 the French, what's the, uh, what's the French delivery system called? I can't remember. But,
00:50:09.600 um, yeah, I think SpaceX do do the heavy lifting now. But I, but I, I wouldn't be surprised if
00:50:16.560 they actually are. Ariane 5, sorry, that's the French. I wouldn't be surprised if they actually 1.00
00:50:19.200 are 90% of the, because he's lowered the cost of the ton into space so much.
00:50:23.760 90% sounds higher to me, although I don't know. And I could totally believe it. Yeah. 0.93
00:50:27.680 I could totally believe that, that it's as much as that. Um, and then Alex says, uh,
00:50:32.240 Bo wants Trump to build a Dyson sphere by next Tuesday. Don't you, Bo? That would be nice, wouldn't
00:50:37.760 it? Yeah. We also have two others that you missed out. So I'll read through those. Matt Hammond says,
00:50:43.040 did you see reports that Trump's big ask on Gaza has secured investment by Arab nations of $53
00:50:47.760 billion to rebuild it and kick Hamas out of there? I did see that the Arab nations have all come 1.00
00:50:52.960 together to try to present a counter proposal for Gaza. But the fact is, I mean, unless they're
00:50:58.400 going to plan on invading Israel, Israel's blockaded all of the food, what are they going to do?
00:51:03.200 They don't really, in the same way that Russia has the cards, Israel has the cards in this conflict.
00:51:09.520 Engaged for you also says, Bo, a good acronym for the 7th of October is L, is LIHOP,
00:51:15.040 let it happen on purpose. That is if you're going with the more conspiratorial explanation for why
00:51:20.320 it happened. Anyway, so, on to the final segment of the day. Let's talk about the UK media declaring
00:51:26.720 war on JD Vance for no good reason. They decided to go into dirty, dirty smear merchant mode,
00:51:32.720 as they always like to do, and decided that JD Vance saying something completely innocuous
00:51:37.520 was terrible, and to misrepresent it to the extreme. But first, where you will not find
00:51:44.480 smearing or dirty, dirty smear merchants, or any sort of misrepresentations of yours, mine,
00:51:49.520 or anybody else's views, is Islander, where you'll be able to read through and get lovely articles in
00:51:55.280 this lovely format and presentation by people like Carl Benjamin, Morgoth, John David Ebert, Alexander
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00:52:09.520 Get them while they're hot, get them while they are still here, because they will not be here
00:52:13.520 forever. Anyway, so, we all saw that Europe is rearming at the moment. This is a very, very
00:52:19.760 alarmist line here from this, but this was Ursula von der Leyen saying that we are in an era of
00:52:25.840 rearmament in Europe, and we're putting in, what was it, 800 billion euros or dollars
00:52:30.960 into rearming Europe. As you pointed out on the podcast yesterday, very, very nice that they want
00:52:36.480 to do that so that we can all go to war with Ukraine, but not put that same amount of investment
00:52:40.720 into protecting our own borders or re-migrating people that shouldn't be here. That same amount 0.99
00:52:45.200 of money would get you 57 million deportations of third worlders. That sounds like a pretty great 1.00
00:52:51.600 deal to me, to be honest. But no, we don't get that, we just get conscription for Ukraine, who are 0.78
00:52:56.720 already having such trouble that, as you showed again on the podcast yesterday, they are taking men
00:53:00.560 off of the street to conscript them right then and there. In plastic cuffs. So, that's the cause
00:53:06.640 that we're supporting right now, and of course there's been the attempts to broker a peace deal
00:53:11.920 with Russia, headed by Donald Trump and JD Vance. And Vance, in an interview just yesterday,
00:53:19.840 decided to make a comment on the fact that getting the rare minerals deal with Ukraine adds an economic
00:53:28.480 investment into Ukraine by the U.S., which basically guarantees there'll be U.S. forces
00:53:34.000 on the ground, U.S. men, which is the same as a security guarantee, while also giving them
00:53:39.920 greater economic investment. I mean, this is one of those points that's so obvious you wouldn't
00:53:44.880 have thought it'd need to be made, but obviously it needed to be made to Zelensky, because he didn't
00:53:49.360 seem to appreciate this. If you've got U.S. contractors rumbling around in eastern Ukraine,
00:53:55.200 you know, obviously the Ruskies are going to think twice about driving tanks over the top of them. 1.00
00:53:58.880 I mean, I thought that was obvious, but apparently everybody with a Ukraine flag in their bio,
00:54:05.200 and even Zelensky himself, hadn't figured that out. The European establishment is incredibly stupid.
00:54:13.120 We need to answer that as well. But also, he made a comment as part of this that it's a better
00:54:18.080 security guarantee than 20,000 troops from some random country that hasn't fought a war in 30 to 40
00:54:23.920 years. A very vague comment, not naming any country in particular. And he said,
00:54:30.240 a random country. He didn't say, I'm specifically talking about, and then list the country. The UK
00:54:35.520 and France, for instance. He doesn't say anything like that, but the UK media decided, well, this
00:54:42.960 means the UK and France then, and decided to run with it. And then a load of our politicians decided
00:54:49.120 to run with it as well. Because you know the best form of diplomacy, whether or not his remarks could
00:54:54.240 be misinterpreted by anybody, the best form of diplomacy is then to immediately start throwing
00:54:59.280 out insults. Conservative Shadow Defence Secretary James Cartlidge pointed out both the UK and France
00:55:05.760 deployed forces alongside the US and Afghanistan, adding it's deeply disrespectful to ignore such
00:55:10.480 service and sacrifice. Good point, he wasn't. Simple as, reformed UK leader Nigel Farage, who never saw
00:55:19.920 a news story that he couldn't jump on, said that Vance was wrong, wrong, wrong, adding that the UK
00:55:25.760 stood by America for 20 years in Afghanistan. I'm so glad you hitched yourself onto that bandwagon, 0.99
00:55:30.640 Nigel. You look like a dick. That's not what he said.
00:55:33.840 I mean, the whole premise of arguing with lefties is them pretending to not understand so that they
00:55:42.400 can say stupid shit. That should not apply to Nigel Farage. He should not be making a basic mistake like
00:55:48.480 that. Nigel Farage, let's be perfectly honest, if he had been born 30 years ago and wasn't in charge
00:55:57.280 of, he would be a slop merchant. He would be a slop account on Twitter, slop posting all day, because that 0.86
00:56:03.600 is basically what he did here. He saw some slop and he couldn't wait to gobble it up.
00:56:08.320 Mmm, yummy slop. If he had been born 30 years ago in Indonesia. 1.00
00:56:12.080 Yep, exactly. He would not be able to help himself. That's not to say that Farage hasn't done some
00:56:17.440 good stuff with Brexit and everything, but that's just how he is these days. Banging pots and pans
00:56:22.960 outside his front house. It would be strange if he'd done that, wouldn't it? In solidarity with Zelensky.
00:56:29.200 If I was Nigel Farage and I'd done that, I'd be really, really embarrassed. Reform have been
00:56:34.560 pro-Ukraine. I don't know about every single one of them. I don't actually don't know Robert Lowe's
00:56:38.560 position on it. He's probably based like all of his other positions. But Tyas actually went
00:56:45.920 out there and said loads of explicitly pro-Ukrainian things. Oh, he pictured himself
00:56:55.280 making soy face at the flag. Yeah, a crazy-eyed soy face. Yeah. It's a shame because Tyas is getting
00:57:03.440 much, much better on everything else. Is he? Yeah, he's actually all right on some other stuff.
00:57:08.240 Oh, it remains to be seen. You'll need to give me some pretty strong evidence of that.
00:57:13.520 So, how many are you going to send back, Mr. Tice? That's the only question that I need answered.
00:57:18.560 And if he's not got a good answer for that, then I'm sorry. I can't forgive him.
00:57:22.000 If they claim to like cricket and tea, then they don't go back.
00:57:25.680 Also, Dan, of the two people I could be on the podcast with right now, I also feel like you two
00:57:32.320 have the least reason to stick up for reform. Especially Tyas, yes. And actually, his position
00:57:38.720 is, is that every, because he wants net zero, which is effectively every time we bring a third
00:57:42.960 welder in, we get rid of a native Brit who just gives up on this place at the same time. 0.96
00:57:47.200 So his position is actually even worse than that. That's like the most efficient form of
00:57:51.760 replacement, surely. Yes. Yeah. That's actually quite remarkable. Thank you. It's one for one
00:57:57.440 replacement theory. Yeah. But you are right that Farage and Tice and such have been very,
00:58:02.320 very pro-Ukraine. Although personally, I don't see how brokering some kind of
00:58:06.640 mutually beneficial peace deal to get Russia out of Ukraine, or at least to stop the war,
00:58:10.880 I don't see how that's seen as an anti-Ukrainian position when they have so clearly lost the war.
00:58:16.000 It's not if you're one of those poor sods in plastic off being dragged to the front line. 0.99
00:58:20.080 It's probably that bad if you're trying to skim off the top of the incoming aid flows.
00:58:24.880 Here's the thing about... Let's just talk straight for a moment. Let's just be perfectly,
00:58:31.600 painfully honest. Yes.
00:58:34.080 The battlefield reality is that the Ukrainians have lost that war.
00:58:39.200 Yeah. Yeah.
00:58:40.480 That's the bottom line. They lost it like a year ago, two years ago.
00:58:43.760 That's reality. Those are the facts. They will not be retaking the Crimea.
00:58:49.760 Right? They won't be taking back the territory from the oblasts. 1.00
00:58:53.200 So this talk of Putin cannot be allowed to win for as long as it takes, it's all nonsense.
00:59:01.920 It's nonsense. It's tough talk.
00:59:03.600 The armoured brigades of Russia will not give up that territory. That's the battlefield reality.
00:59:10.080 The Ukrainians had a couple of years, three years or whatever it has been now,
00:59:13.680 to win on the battlefield. They failed to do so. Unfortunately.
00:59:18.480 Even with the full backing and support of Europe and the US.
00:59:21.600 Yeah. Not that I'm gunning for Russian armoured divisions.
00:59:25.920 It's just... That's just the reality now on the ground.
00:59:28.480 You know, Jacob Rees-Mogg tweeted yesterday, or whatever it was,
00:59:31.200 Putin cannot win. It's happened. He won. He's won.
00:59:35.360 So, let's start dealing with that reality. That doesn't make me a pro-Russian propagandist.
00:59:41.840 It's just reality, isn't it? Right.
00:59:43.520 And of course, I think the situation has been wrong from the start, because we've covered before
00:59:48.800 the peace talks that initially went on after the conflict started, and I do think that Ukraine was
00:59:54.480 encouraged by the US and the UK and their other allies.
00:59:58.560 They got borrised.
00:59:58.800 Yeah, they got borrised into continuing the conflict, losing more men, losing more territory,
01:00:05.040 and then three years later, as soon as you've got the new administration in America,
01:00:09.120 all of a sudden, well, we'll give you a peace deal as long as you carve up a real nice load of your
01:00:14.080 resources for us.
01:00:15.200 What this is like...
01:00:16.000 So, I do think that they have been thoroughly abused in this whole situation,
01:00:20.720 and I do think Zelensky has also played a heavy hand in that.
01:00:24.560 What this is like is when you've got two people who actually know how to play chess,
01:00:28.720 and you know quite often in a game, they know that somebody's won, and at that point,
01:00:34.080 the other person lays down their king because they know the other person has won. However,
01:00:38.240 actually, they haven't yet forced a checkmate, and you might have to play for another hundred
01:00:42.080 turns to force that checkmate, but they both know that the other player was won.
01:00:45.360 What... This is essentially that. Everybody who can see this can see that Ukraine has lost,
01:00:52.640 but Russia just hasn't forced a checkmate yet.
01:00:54.480 Except all of Ukraine's buddies have been going into his ear going, 0.91
01:00:57.440 no, you can still get him back, you can still get...
01:00:59.040 Yeah, because they don't have to play chess.
01:01:00.480 A hundred turns to nothing, keep going, keep going.
01:01:02.480 They just sacrifice more and more pawns.
01:01:04.320 Yeah, yeah. How many men need to die? How many men?
01:01:07.280 Again, the argument I think Julia Burra Hartley, Hartley Burra said,
01:01:14.000 the argument of don't make all the already killed people and raped women,
01:01:20.160 don't make their sacrifice in vain by giving up now.
01:01:23.680 Get more people killed and raped.
01:01:25.520 What an insane logic. Amazing.
01:01:26.880 What an insane logic. Very Churchillian.
01:01:29.200 No, no, the battlefield reality, Julia, is that the Russians have won.
01:01:33.360 So stop getting men butchered for no good reason now.
01:01:39.520 It's the opinion you can only hold if you know that you personally will never be going
01:01:47.200 anywhere near a front line ever.
01:01:49.120 It really is disgusting to me. Morally repugnant.
01:01:53.200 But just to carry on a little bit with this, because we've got some memes coming.
01:01:56.800 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we had Lib Dems saying,
01:01:59.440 oh my God, this is disgusting.
01:02:01.040 More conservatives saying, I'm too stupid to actually watch the full clip,
01:02:04.880 so I'm going to make an arse of myself as well.
01:02:07.040 Uh, Obese Jecti, BBC Two's Politics Live program, said it's difficult.
01:02:14.800 I don't know why you would want to call your child obese, but you know, fair play.
01:02:18.640 It's difficult to see who he was talking about.
01:02:20.480 If he wasn't talking about Britain and France, how about any other country?
01:02:23.760 Any other country in Europe that's not been involved in a war for 20 years?
01:02:27.920 There's plenty of them. Yeah, loads of them actually.
01:02:30.160 There's plenty of them. So it's actually quite obvious to see that he wasn't talking about that.
01:02:34.640 The Guardian ran with it as well. LBC ran with it. And then LBC had Nick Ferrari describing Vance as
01:02:43.440 dumb and aggressive because of these comments, despite the fact, again, Nick Ferrari apparently
01:02:49.520 too dumb and aggressive himself to actually listen to what was being said.
01:02:52.960 So much boomerang with a hard R.
01:02:56.800 And JD Vance just was like, well, here's the full clip of me saying it. This is dishonest.
01:03:03.440 This isn't what I said. The best way to handle it, really. Just call them out.
01:03:07.760 But now we get onto the juicy stuff that I actually wanted to talk. I've had the cover now.
01:03:12.240 There's some news for you. Let's talk about memes.
01:03:16.480 Yes. Yes. Because JD Vance is my new favorite person in the world, not necessarily because of
01:03:22.000 anything that he's ever done in his own life, but because apparently he has the ability to bring
01:03:27.040 people together, to bring both sides of the political aisle together, because he has the
01:03:31.520 most malleable face in all of politics. This started a few months ago following his...
01:03:39.840 He does have a meme-able face.
01:03:41.440 You have a semi-meme-able face. I mean, every so often, people will meme something up of you.
01:03:47.440 And it's like, oh, that's not bad, actually. That's not bad.
01:03:49.360 Thank you very much, Dan. But I mean, you're a rookie.
01:03:51.520 I'm not wearing eyeliner. You're a rookie when it comes to the meme-ability of his face.
01:03:55.600 I was waiting for the moment to say that. And above all, he's comfortable enough
01:03:59.360 with his own sexuality to clearly be wearing eyeliner.
01:04:02.400 Oh, listen. It wasn't a phase okay. That was his life, all right?
01:04:07.680 The Black Parade is still going to this day.
01:04:10.800 Is he actually wearing eyeliner?
01:04:12.320 All joking aside, I don't think he is. Surely he's not.
01:04:15.280 I don't think he is.
01:04:15.840 He just happens to one of those people who just looks like it.
01:04:18.800 Like Andy Burnham.
01:04:19.520 He just has fabulous eyeliner.
01:04:21.360 Oh, yeah.
01:04:21.840 He looks like... He's much worse than Vance. He really looks like he's wearing eyeliner.
01:04:25.040 Oh, the Manchester mayor?
01:04:26.480 Yeah, and he used to be a Labour MP.
01:04:28.320 Oh, fair, fair.
01:04:29.120 If you look at him, you'll be like, is that eyeliner?
01:04:32.000 But he's not. He's not. Vance has just got a less bad case of Andy Burnham going on.
01:04:38.240 The thing is, if I didn't see this, right,
01:04:41.280 I'd have completely forgotten what JD Vance looks like these days.
01:04:45.120 Because instead, I think he looks like this.
01:04:49.520 This was last Friday's meeting. You have to say, please and thank you, Mr. Zensky.
01:04:56.160 This is just my entire Twitter timeline for days now.
01:05:00.080 Variations of this, and they're becoming more and more abstract, more and more absurd.
01:05:05.600 Though you've got brands using it, because apparently you can just morph this man's face into anything.
01:05:12.640 Here he is just being a cool guy, just like, ah, listen, I know we didn't get the deal this time,
01:05:18.080 Trump, but do you forgive me? Do you forgive me?
01:05:20.800 Has somebody made a Vance meme generator yet?
01:05:24.240 I don't know who's making all of these.
01:05:25.280 Or are people having to do this manually in Photoshop still?
01:05:27.920 I think they're doing it manually. This looks like a manual one, right?
01:05:30.640 Because it takes time and dedication to turn JD Vance into Emperor Vitellius.
01:05:36.320 I don't know why you'd want to do it, but somebody did it, and thank you.
01:05:42.000 That's not very fair. Vitellius was a really bad one.
01:05:45.120 Well, I don't know.
01:05:46.080 Sort of a butcher, Vitellius.
01:05:48.160 Maybe this is, I mean, we've still got 2028. We'll probably have eight years of Vance.
01:05:53.120 Let's see how he does, eh? Let's see how he does. We're living in Vance's world.
01:06:00.240 They're just an endless source of entertainment for me. What else do we have?
01:06:03.600 It's not just Vance's world. It's like that shopped Vance.
01:06:08.400 I don't know why they all just make it.
01:06:10.480 So for those of you who are listening, this segment might be slightly lost on you.
01:06:14.640 Regardless to say, we've got lots of chubby-afied Vance's...
01:06:20.560 Whatever you're doing, pull over and watch it.
01:06:23.200 This JD Vance looks like he should be being body-slammed by Hulk Hogan at WrestleMania III.
01:06:28.560 He looks like a 70s wrestler.
01:06:30.240 He looks like Andre the Giant for some...
01:06:32.400 Yes.
01:06:33.440 What else have we got?
01:06:35.760 I don't know what that is.
01:06:39.120 I don't know what this is either. This is ideal JD Vance.
01:06:42.960 If Vivek Ramaswamy had his way, this would be the real JD Vance.
01:06:47.600 Sadly, sadly, it's not.
01:06:50.240 H1B Vance isn't real and he can't come for your job yet.
01:06:54.960 That's Elon's idealized version of Vance.
01:06:57.600 No, I think this is Elon's idealized version of Vance. One that he can use some IVF treatment and get another baby out.
01:07:03.840 That's basically average Swindon woman. 1.00
01:07:07.440 Yeah.
01:07:08.000 Yeah, actually. And yet you're undoing your belt then.
01:07:11.040 Well, yes. Well, one has to get comfortable.
01:07:13.760 Oh, okay. All right. It felt some shifting down there. Okay.
01:07:17.280 There's this horrifying one.
01:07:19.360 That's nightmare fuel.
01:07:20.800 That is nightmare fuel, but also still kind of funny.
01:07:23.600 Like had his face ripped off by a chimpanzee attack.
01:07:26.320 This is reconstructed Vance. This is punished Vance.
01:07:32.400 And actually, it's entirely in character for Zelensky to turn up next time with a pet chimpanzee.
01:07:38.160 Yeah. Yeah. Why not?
01:07:39.680 Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
01:07:40.640 Who knows what could happen, right?
01:07:42.240 This is my new negotiating tactic.
01:07:44.720 This might be a premonition.
01:07:46.480 And then there's just endless Vances.
01:07:49.840 Hang on. Hang on.
01:07:51.280 Hang on. All of those are that guy from LBC. What's his name?
01:07:54.480 Oh, James O'Brien.
01:07:55.200 Yes.
01:07:55.680 They do make him look a lot like James O'Brien, don't they actually?
01:07:59.040 But this is the entire timeline for so long.
01:08:01.520 What have we got in the replies down here?
01:08:04.160 There'll be more. There'll be more.
01:08:05.760 That's cool.
01:08:07.200 The one above is awesome.
01:08:08.640 I love that one.
01:08:10.560 Little Shrek lollipop Vance.
01:08:12.880 That's great.
01:08:14.080 And there's a wall of Vance.
01:08:15.440 And again, bringing everybody together.
01:08:17.360 I don't know who's making these.
01:08:18.720 I've seen lefties sharing them.
01:08:20.160 Like this twat, Evan Loves Wharf, who's one of the worst posters out there.
01:08:24.080 I've seen very, very far right accounts posting all of this.
01:08:27.920 But we're all coming together under this, whatever this is.
01:08:33.360 Because there are so many little variations.
01:08:35.360 Well, I like Vance.
01:08:36.320 The bottom left where it's tiny features in a big head.
01:08:39.280 This is Charlie Kirk Vance.
01:08:40.880 And look, there he is with Charlie Kirk right there.
01:08:47.600 And it's important to remember as well, right?
01:08:50.160 J.D. Vance on Twitter swims in our circles.
01:08:54.160 Yeah, yeah.
01:08:55.120 He might be watching this.
01:08:56.320 He follows.
01:08:56.880 He might be watching this right now.
01:08:58.160 All joking aside, I'm a big fan of him.
01:09:00.000 Oh yeah, I think he's great.
01:09:01.200 I'm totally rooting for him for 2028.
01:09:03.520 Why is there a Carl Benjamin J.D. Vance?
01:09:06.880 Which one?
01:09:07.440 This one?
01:09:08.320 No, to the right.
01:09:10.000 Oh, this one.
01:09:10.880 No, up and to the right.
01:09:12.080 That one?
01:09:12.640 Yes.
01:09:13.680 Well, actually, all three of those.
01:09:15.360 They're all different variations of Carl.
01:09:17.440 That was Sargon circa 2014.
01:09:19.920 What, this one?
01:09:20.560 Yes.
01:09:20.880 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:09:21.840 This is modern Carl.
01:09:23.200 Yes.
01:09:23.600 This is Carl 20 years from now.
01:09:26.320 Yes.
01:09:26.640 So not only do we have amazing Vance meetings,
01:09:28.960 they give us the ability to see the future.
01:09:31.040 It's quite incredible.
01:09:33.840 When there's a meme, there's a way.
01:09:35.360 Uh, I still don't know.
01:09:37.440 I don't know why the lolly,
01:09:38.800 the baby Vance lollipop ones always get me.
01:09:41.760 But again, he follows Roar Egg Nationalist.
01:09:44.720 He follows other people.
01:09:46.640 I've seen Roar Egg Nationalist sharing these,
01:09:49.840 which means that J.D. Vance is going onto Twitter
01:09:54.320 and just scrolling through endless oceans of his own face
01:09:57.920 and presumably liking them.
01:09:59.680 Well, the thing is, I've been photoshopped
01:10:01.440 in a number of things.
01:10:02.000 We all have.
01:10:02.880 I nearly always find it good and funny.
01:10:06.000 And I nearly always find it funny being shopped in something.
01:10:10.320 Yeah.
01:10:11.200 There was a segment a while ago that we did on,
01:10:13.360 what was it, it's not revenge porn,
01:10:16.080 but that one where you basically photoshop people
01:10:19.040 onto porn images and stuff and about how it was really upsetting women
01:10:22.640 and how basically to stop it.
01:10:25.280 Samson laughing.
01:10:25.840 I did say at the time, I want people to do that for me,
01:10:28.320 but nobody has yet.
01:10:30.800 But it's actually good for J.D. Vance, the J.D. Vance sort of name recognition.
01:10:40.160 Yeah.
01:10:41.040 Yeah.
01:10:41.440 Because if you're well-known enough...
01:10:43.840 If you're well-known for this...
01:10:46.000 Well, for anything...
01:10:47.200 This is going to be his presidential campaign poster come 2028.
01:10:52.560 For his product, right?
01:10:55.200 You've got to have...
01:10:56.400 To win a presidency, you've almost certainly got to have permeated
01:10:59.360 the public consciousness fairly deeply, right?
01:11:02.720 Yeah.
01:11:04.080 And he's certainly done that.
01:11:05.440 The thing is, even the leftists I've seen sharing this, right?
01:11:09.040 Because again, I don't know who's making these.
01:11:10.960 I can't tell, looking at this, does the person who made this love J.D. Vance?
01:11:16.240 Do they hate J.D. Vance?
01:11:17.680 Are they indifferent to J.D. Vance?
01:11:20.240 Who cares?
01:11:20.960 Because it's all kind of making him more likable as well.
01:11:23.840 I think it's good for Vance, because what you're basically doing is...
01:11:26.720 I mean, we've been going through this with hearty, genuine chuckles.
01:11:30.240 So you're kind of subconsciously associating J.D. Vance with a good feeling of chuckles
01:11:36.720 and warmth and all the rest of it.
01:11:38.080 And if that's what his brand is, that does him really well for 28.
01:11:43.760 I think that's the best analysis that we can get from this.
01:11:46.080 Thank you, Dan.
01:11:47.520 This is not just memes now.
01:11:48.960 This is serious political analysis, because all politics is a meme these days.
01:11:53.040 But no, like, take for example, the person who does this really well,
01:11:55.840 for example, is Scott Adams.
01:11:57.120 Have you ever seen his podcast?
01:11:58.400 No, I don't. I've seen clips from it.
01:12:00.320 What he does is he's associated coffee with his podcast.
01:12:04.640 And the reason he does that is because people like coffee,
01:12:07.600 and therefore they transfer those feelings of liking coffee onto his podcast.
01:12:12.080 And this is what's happening here, is we are associating a good chuckle, good memes.
01:12:20.320 They keep getting better.
01:12:24.240 Again, magnificent.
01:12:26.640 That one's not J.D. Vance.
01:12:29.680 I don't know.
01:12:32.720 Again, this is...
01:12:33.440 That's just impressive.
01:12:34.960 Yeah.
01:12:35.200 I don't know what that is, but I like it.
01:12:37.840 I like it a lot.
01:12:38.640 I want one.
01:12:40.560 That's the new thing.
01:12:41.440 That's the next thing.
01:12:42.160 Trump merch.
01:12:43.040 We need J.D. Vance meme merch.
01:12:45.760 We need this as a little toy.
01:12:47.440 You can give it to your children.
01:12:48.640 Hours of fun.
01:12:50.560 Hours of fun.
01:12:51.520 So yeah, God bless you, J.D. Vance.
01:12:53.760 And thank you for taking all of this on the chin,
01:12:55.840 because I reckon you're having a good laugh for looking at all of these as well.
01:12:59.280 Let's go to the final Rumble rants and video comments.
01:13:02.880 There is MarksLives, who says,
01:13:05.600 On my TV, I see 24-7 Rumble content like the Y-Files and Lo-Fi Girls.
01:13:14.320 Have you all considered putting your non-paywalled, non-political content up on 24-7 channels?
01:13:20.000 Do we have any non-paywalled, non-political stuff?
01:13:22.400 I think the only non-political stuff we have is Lads Hour, and that's paywalled.
01:13:27.440 Yeah, that's paywalled.
01:13:28.560 There's a lot of cultural content, but most of that-
01:13:30.880 There's a bit of it as well.
01:13:32.320 There are various symposiums, contemplations, and epochs that were made freemium.
01:13:39.120 There's probably a few hours worth of that.
01:13:41.280 Actually, I know the answer to this one.
01:13:43.280 Somebody from one of these places did get in touch with me,
01:13:47.200 and I was basically too busy to get back to her.
01:13:50.080 So, if I can sort out the meeting, I might do something like that.
01:13:56.240 Catch Up says, My Islander 3 arrived during the podcast by Islander now.
01:14:01.520 Yes, you the viewer, I'm talking to you.
01:14:03.600 Yes, that's correct.
01:14:05.520 See, he's having a great time.
01:14:06.940 He's already got his Islander.
01:14:08.100 Where's your Islander?
01:14:09.140 You don't have one, do you?
01:14:10.180 Because you've not bought it, because you're a loser.
01:14:12.720 Oh, shots fired.
01:14:14.200 The Engaged Few says,
01:14:15.800 By attacking a son of Appalachia, you have incurred the wrath. 0.87
01:14:20.440 Of his brothers and sisters.
01:14:21.640 The UK press should stay away from here,
01:14:25.280 because you'll run out of journalists before we run out of mine shafts.
01:14:29.080 The hills do have eyes in those places.
01:14:30.960 Only in mine shafts, of course.
01:14:32.720 Well, you ain't from around these parts, are you, boy?
01:14:35.000 The neo-unrealist says,
01:14:36.420 The thing that scares bitter clingers of the rules-based liberal order is,
01:14:41.020 if anything, Vance seems more zealous about MAGA ideology than Trump.
01:14:45.140 Trump is transactional and vulnerable to flattery.
01:14:47.700 Yeah, I mean, of course, we don't know.
01:14:49.860 That's why I like the guy.
01:14:50.540 Yeah, but he's, like, odds-on for 28, isn't he?
01:14:53.380 I mean, he's...
01:14:53.780 I think so now.
01:14:54.700 Yeah.
01:14:55.140 Oh, apparently, according to Scanlines,
01:14:57.140 all of these are coming from 4chan,
01:14:59.500 and they're currently having Vance threads.
01:15:01.360 So, trust 4chan to be the ones to do some excellent memeing.
01:15:05.620 Thank you, 4chan.
01:15:07.140 Your service is appreciated.
01:15:08.380 Now, we've also got the lovely subscriber comments.
01:15:13.880 Oh, well, we've got video comments.
01:15:15.340 Oh, and video...
01:15:16.140 Yes, let's do a video comment.
01:15:17.360 I should have hosted this one.
01:15:18.580 No, I sort of know what I'm doing, more or less.
01:15:20.580 After your daily video about the Oscars, Harry,
01:15:25.820 I was left with the impression that you hadn't heard of Emilia Perez.
01:15:30.860 I'll leave a list of YouTube videos about it that I recommend that you watch.
01:15:35.960 Oh, dear.
01:15:36.760 As well as share this clip of it with you.
01:15:39.960 I'd like to know about sex change operations.
01:15:43.080 I see, I see, I see.
01:15:45.260 Men to women. 0.81
01:15:46.920 A woman to men. 0.96
01:15:48.520 Men to woman. 0.90
01:15:50.900 So, it's a tranny movie? 0.93
01:15:52.580 Yeah.
01:15:53.440 I don't think I'll be watching...
01:15:55.540 Pass.
01:15:56.480 Hard pass.
01:15:57.580 That looked abysmal.
01:15:58.720 Maybe with enough beer, that would be a funny film.
01:16:03.120 Unintentionally funny.
01:16:03.940 It's a film about a cartel drug lord who has the tranny operation. 1.00
01:16:09.900 Why do you know this?
01:16:10.800 And then basically turns into a Mrs. Doubtfire movie where he looks after his own kids.
01:16:16.000 Pass.
01:16:16.300 Is that real?
01:16:17.060 Are you telling me...
01:16:17.740 No, I'm not making...
01:16:18.520 If anything, we should...
01:16:19.900 Well, I haven't...
01:16:20.440 Well, I've seen the Nerd Erotic video on it.
01:16:22.400 Oh, okay.
01:16:22.700 So, I think that we should watch it.
01:16:24.480 Maybe we should do a drunk live stream watching it.
01:16:26.360 No, but we should watch it with one...
01:16:28.620 You know, you do...
01:16:29.200 I still think we should be doing, like, mystery theatre...
01:16:31.460 You know, you get that whole genre of where you film people and they react to stuff.
01:16:35.980 Yeah, mystery theatre 3000, isn't it?
01:16:38.000 Okay, well, we should do one of those for...
01:16:39.720 Yeah, I want to get drunk and watch terrible movies.
01:16:43.800 It's a great time.
01:16:44.280 I'm out.
01:16:44.720 I'm out.
01:16:45.220 I'm not interested in that.
01:16:46.360 Hard pass.
01:16:47.020 So, if we gave you drugs, would you be interested?
01:16:49.920 Oh, okay.
01:16:50.800 Even less so, if anything.
01:16:52.000 Okay.
01:16:52.440 But it's for the cut.
01:16:53.400 It's for them.
01:16:53.960 It's horrible.
01:16:54.560 It's for them.
01:16:55.480 Yeah, I'm prepared to make lots of sacrifices.
01:16:57.580 But not that.
01:16:57.800 Lots of time and energy, but not that.
01:16:59.720 Right.
01:16:59.980 Not even just to have a drink and laugh with the lads?
01:17:03.440 Pass.
01:17:04.160 No.
01:17:04.520 No.
01:17:06.540 I don't want to watch...
01:17:07.960 Bo doesn't love you people enough.
01:17:08.720 I don't want to watch tranny stuff for love nor money. 1.00
01:17:11.280 Thank you.
01:17:11.760 That's fair.
01:17:12.660 It wasn't the big controversy around it, is that they cast a shock horror, an actual woman,
01:17:18.180 as the post-sex change character.
01:17:22.100 Because I saw a lot of people pissing and moaning on Twitter about it.
01:17:25.100 Actual woman. 0.93
01:17:26.960 Oh, really?
01:17:27.520 Oh, okay.
01:17:27.940 So it was a tranny. 0.97
01:17:29.080 Yeah.
01:17:29.480 Oh, okay.
01:17:29.940 It was a tranny all the way down. 1.00
01:17:32.120 Next video.
01:17:33.820 Good morning, Lotus Eaters.
01:17:35.600 I whipped out a quick part two from the last hiking trip up to Cutford Lakes.
01:17:40.100 Here's to hoping 15 megabytes is enough to maintain some picture quality.
01:17:44.000 I'm editing this listening to Trump's address to Congress, and so far, so good.
01:17:48.260 If you saw part one, the critical item that I left at the truck was my snowshoes,
01:17:52.380 which proved to be a very exhausting error.
01:17:54.380 It's still worth every step.
01:17:56.580 If you're watching this, Carl, keep your eyes peeled going forward for any Bigfoot in the
01:18:00.480 background.
01:18:01.400 I hope y'all are having a good week so far.
01:18:03.180 Is he there?
01:18:03.580 Is he there?
01:18:04.100 Oh, no.
01:18:04.480 Sorry.
01:18:04.800 Actually.
01:18:05.060 That is a beautiful thing to have.
01:18:07.020 I'd love to.
01:18:07.680 I'm really jealous of this dude.
01:18:08.660 We spoke to him on a gold tier Zoom a couple of weeks back, and I was very jealous of where
01:18:13.680 he lives.
01:18:14.680 That's beautiful, isn't it?
01:18:15.980 Yeah.
01:18:16.120 Yeah.
01:18:16.560 Yeah.
01:18:16.720 Quite enchanting.
01:18:17.540 Cutthroat.
01:18:18.040 It was called cutthroat something, though.
01:18:19.380 It's very ominous.
01:18:21.080 Isn't it?
01:18:21.400 Don't think about it.
01:18:23.360 No.
01:18:23.720 Don't worry about it.
01:18:24.600 Sure.
01:18:25.460 Right.
01:18:25.660 What's this one?
01:18:26.080 Hello, everyone.
01:18:28.140 I wanted to show you guys this lake that I like to visit.
01:18:31.000 I kind of wish I'd come here when I was completely frozen, but I still think it looks really cold.
01:18:35.760 I also wanted to say that I was very sad that Connor's going to be leaving the Lotus Eaters,
01:18:40.620 but I do want to wish you all the very best for your future endeavors.
01:18:44.280 You're going to do great, and I hope that you come on the Lotus Eaters often as a guest
01:18:49.020 so it'll be like you never left.
01:18:51.020 Thanks a lot for everything, and take care.
01:18:52.940 We will pass that on to Connor.
01:18:56.480 Yes, that's very kind.
01:18:57.160 And that's a very, very pretty lake.
01:18:59.020 At first, I thought it was a salt lake.
01:19:00.860 I thought it was like mudflap.
01:19:01.760 But it's ice.
01:19:02.380 No, yeah, it's ice.
01:19:03.480 Okay.
01:19:04.200 Yeah, again, we don't have many vistas like that in Britain, do we?
01:19:08.620 Yeah.
01:19:08.840 Oh, we've got a few, but yeah, it's not as...
01:19:10.620 Yeah.
01:19:11.980 Again, I'd love to go there.
01:19:13.420 It looks really nice.
01:19:14.140 Yeah.
01:19:14.420 We've got the lake.
01:19:15.180 Maybe we should have you round.
01:19:18.480 Yeah.
01:19:19.280 Sure.
01:19:20.140 Why not?
01:19:20.840 Yeah.
01:19:21.460 All right.
01:19:21.780 Shall we go through the written comments now?
01:19:23.380 Yeah, go on then.
01:19:24.240 So, Lord Kevcroft says,
01:19:26.500 Afternoon, chaps. 0.99
01:19:27.420 I've just had my copy of The Islander through the door.
01:19:30.100 Thank you for all the continuing great work.
01:19:33.440 Well, thank you, Lord Kev.
01:19:35.320 And North FC Zuma says,
01:19:37.480 Dan, the Civil War Brokonomics was excellent.
01:19:41.280 Organisation is far right,
01:19:42.980 and I wholly disavow when things collapse.
01:19:44.920 Lotus Eaters definitely should not set up a hub.
01:19:47.440 Yes, no, of course,
01:19:48.260 we would definitely not do that sort of thing.
01:19:52.580 Luca Clark says,
01:19:53.760 Islander 3 arrived today.
01:19:55.240 Needless to say,
01:19:55.860 I'm rather pleased with my new reading material.
01:19:58.360 And Michael Henderson says,
01:20:00.060 My Islander 3 has arrived.
01:20:01.300 So, there you go.
01:20:01.700 We've given you three examples of people
01:20:03.140 who have actually received their copy.
01:20:05.400 I'm so glad we've not been screwed by the distributor again.
01:20:07.900 Yes.
01:20:08.180 Honestly, that was just mortifying and embarrassing.
01:20:11.840 Harry, do you want to read your ones, or shall I?
01:20:13.800 I'll read through them.
01:20:15.280 Damnonia Woodsman says, 0.60
01:20:16.980 The Muslim Hikers Association runs charity walks for Palestine,
01:20:20.020 and they fly the flags in the countryside.
01:20:21.960 Sometimes their posts say,
01:20:23.080 Strength in Numbers.
01:20:23.660 Yeah, I'd ban it.
01:20:25.180 I'd ban that.
01:20:26.880 Overnight.
01:20:28.020 If people want to go out independently hiking,
01:20:30.680 whatever.
01:20:31.240 But if you're going to turn it into a political thing,
01:20:33.340 where you go out and fly your flags for a foreign country,
01:20:36.260 and they're foreign interests,
01:20:37.540 no.
01:20:37.960 Banned.
01:20:38.680 DJ Vance.
01:20:39.700 I remember going to a Labour Party conference in 2018,
01:20:42.260 and the first thing I saw when I entered was a Palestine flag,
01:20:44.740 with many more around the complex.
01:20:46.140 Not a single England flag or Union flag could be seen.
01:20:48.800 This was one of the main things that woke me up.
01:20:51.580 Yeah.
01:20:52.040 Obviously, it's going to be Labour.
01:20:54.000 Fuzzy Toaster.
01:20:54.900 I reckon there will be a giant extra-planetary stations
01:20:57.580 before there are feasible off-world colonies.
01:20:59.700 I think this is actually related to your segment, Beau,
01:21:01.520 but I'll carry on.
01:21:02.420 How else will we fuel the gardens of Venus
01:21:04.200 and the foundries of Mars?
01:21:05.900 Asteroid mining stations, baby.
01:21:07.740 Side note, I will not be drawn in to quibble over
01:21:09.400 which planet is better.
01:21:10.160 I posit the 40k Imperium mindset.
01:21:12.140 Is there anything exploitable on it?
01:21:14.620 Yes.
01:21:15.040 Set up a colony.
01:21:16.400 Damn the consequences.
01:21:18.200 Thoughts on that, Beau?
01:21:19.680 Yeah.
01:21:20.580 All right.
01:21:21.460 The Bull.
01:21:22.460 Intel agencies.
01:21:23.880 All right, all right, all right.
01:21:25.380 Not sharing critical intelligence with the field
01:21:27.860 is a tale as old as time,
01:21:29.280 whether by hoarding or trying to allow something to happen.
01:21:31.380 There needs to be a full in those agencies,
01:21:34.700 and that includes all Western intelligence agencies.
01:21:37.200 Yeah, this is not specific to Israel or Mossad or the IDF.
01:21:44.480 All of these kind of large governmental agencies
01:21:46.840 are corrupt to the bone,
01:21:48.820 and they need to be rooted.
01:21:50.800 As they said there,
01:21:52.220 it's a story as old as time.
01:21:54.460 Going back to the ancient world, 1.00
01:21:57.440 pretend you've been attacked by someone,
01:21:59.420 so you can then attack them.
01:22:01.120 Yeah.
01:22:01.500 As simple as.
01:22:02.560 Yeah.
01:22:02.660 A somewhere person says,
01:22:05.020 it's just a piece of rock.
01:22:06.260 Yes, but a piece of rock in my homeland,
01:22:08.420 so you can go away.
01:22:10.640 Completely agree there.
01:22:12.540 Would you like to read some of the next ones, Dan,
01:22:14.700 for Beau's, or shall I carry on?
01:22:16.720 All right, well, you've got a lovely reading voice,
01:22:18.740 so why not?
01:22:19.240 Oh, thank you very much, Dan.
01:22:20.560 That's the sweetest thing anyone's ever said to me
01:22:22.360 on this podcast.
01:22:23.580 Lord Nerevar,
01:22:24.440 I can't imagine how exciting it must have been in 1969
01:22:27.080 to see the moon landing in real time.
01:22:29.080 Maybe we can recapture some of that.
01:22:30.600 Yeah, it was probably amazing if you were there.
01:22:34.740 I'd love to have seen that.
01:22:36.220 Yeah.
01:22:36.640 That real event.
01:22:38.180 Yeah, that was,
01:22:39.480 it's important.
01:22:40.580 And the thing is, right,
01:22:41.580 that's why I keep going on about how it's a shame
01:22:43.840 that the people who will actually land on it
01:22:45.640 are not more famous.
01:22:46.660 Because put it like this,
01:22:47.540 let's say,
01:22:48.660 let's say that you did,
01:22:50.460 I did a daily,
01:22:51.840 Lotus Daily video that had a billion views,
01:22:55.220 right?
01:22:56.160 And there was a high,
01:22:57.520 but there was some thought
01:22:59.220 that maybe I'd procured
01:23:00.840 one of those Indian firms 0.94
01:23:02.000 to boost it a bit.
01:23:04.220 And then a couple of years later.
01:23:05.180 You're saying that Indians face the moon landing. 0.84
01:23:07.360 And then a couple of years later,
01:23:08.360 you did a daily video
01:23:09.360 that actually got a billion views.
01:23:11.300 Well, you wouldn't get the recognition
01:23:12.680 that you deserve
01:23:13.540 because you were only the second one
01:23:15.560 to do a Lotus Daily video.
01:23:17.360 Yes.
01:23:17.580 So you've been bossing your YouTube videos.
01:23:20.080 No, they would be,
01:23:20.820 they would be much higher.
01:23:21.720 You've been bossing your views.
01:23:22.340 They would be much higher.
01:23:23.160 Oh, okay.
01:23:23.720 If they were.
01:23:24.400 All right.
01:23:24.760 This is my point.
01:23:25.480 I think the recognition
01:23:26.460 should go to those
01:23:27.140 who truly deserve it.
01:23:28.180 That's my point.
01:23:29.720 It sort of really does.
01:23:31.480 Again, in history,
01:23:32.100 there's so many examples
01:23:33.220 of when it's not the first person
01:23:34.640 that gets remembered for something
01:23:36.320 or the wrong person
01:23:37.200 gets credited
01:23:37.740 with being the first person.
01:23:39.440 And that's the way it goes,
01:23:42.120 isn't it?
01:23:42.660 Unfortunately.
01:23:44.220 Yeah.
01:23:44.540 I'll carry on.
01:23:45.660 Rose Ganella says,
01:23:47.200 we have to go back to the moon
01:23:48.300 and there's a simple reason
01:23:49.380 why ask 10 different scientists
01:23:50.760 about the environment,
01:23:51.760 population control,
01:23:52.540 genetics,
01:23:52.940 and you'll get 10 different answers.
01:23:53.960 But there's one thing
01:23:54.680 every scientist on the planet agrees on.
01:23:57.240 Whether it happens in 100 years
01:23:58.380 or 1,000 years
01:23:59.020 or a million years,
01:23:59.760 eventually our sun will grow cold
01:24:01.480 and go out.
01:24:02.560 When that happens,
01:24:03.380 it won't just take us.
01:24:04.820 It'll take Marilyn Monroe 1.00
01:24:06.120 and Sun Tzu
01:24:06.980 and Einstein
01:24:07.820 and Buddy Holly
01:24:08.700 and Aristophanes
01:24:09.620 and all of this,
01:24:10.700 all of this was for nothing
01:24:11.720 unless we go to the stars.
01:24:14.120 I think that's a fair perspective
01:24:16.660 to take on it, actually.
01:24:18.360 Yeah, yeah.
01:24:19.280 Only living on one planet
01:24:21.040 is putting all your eggs
01:24:22.320 in one basket.
01:24:22.940 Yeah, yeah.
01:24:23.880 Not even worrying about
01:24:24.880 the death of the sun.
01:24:25.860 We could just get hit
01:24:26.620 by some sort of
01:24:28.660 mass extinction level
01:24:29.700 asteroid,
01:24:30.960 asteroidal event
01:24:32.060 could happen long before the sun.
01:24:34.940 Also, the sun won't just
01:24:35.860 sort of go cold
01:24:36.840 and we'll freeze.
01:24:37.860 It will expand,
01:24:40.400 become,
01:24:41.760 yeah,
01:24:42.040 it will expand
01:24:43.120 and maybe even swallow us up
01:24:44.300 but certainly burn us
01:24:45.540 to a crisp
01:24:46.120 long before it goes out.
01:24:46.340 Or there might just be
01:24:47.000 too many liberals.
01:24:47.880 and you just want to
01:24:49.940 set up a new England 0.71
01:24:51.060 somewhere.
01:24:52.540 I feel like at some point
01:24:54.020 Space England.
01:24:55.200 I don't mind the sound of that.
01:24:56.740 In the distant future
01:24:57.580 we'll be able to
01:24:58.940 travel
01:24:59.480 a significant portion
01:25:01.680 the speed of light
01:25:02.540 at some point.
01:25:04.100 The engineering of that
01:25:05.480 isn't actually impossible
01:25:06.780 and we can go to other
01:25:08.380 we can go to other stars,
01:25:10.540 nearby stars at least
01:25:11.640 and there may well be
01:25:13.740 may well be
01:25:14.700 habitable planets.
01:25:16.120 It should be in our destiny
01:25:18.780 to leave this solar system
01:25:20.820 for other habitable planets.
01:25:22.360 As a man who can still
01:25:23.700 somewhat tenuously
01:25:25.460 claim to be young
01:25:26.360 I just want there
01:25:27.920 to be frontiers again.
01:25:30.240 That's the thing
01:25:31.220 in the modern era
01:25:32.020 it's really shit
01:25:33.920 that I couldn't
01:25:34.560 just be exploring
01:25:35.460 the edges of the empire
01:25:36.640 on the frontiers
01:25:37.760 rather than just pushing
01:25:38.700 the boundaries of taste
01:25:39.580 on Twitter.
01:25:39.980 Well, I mean
01:25:41.340 you stopped me
01:25:41.960 from doing this
01:25:42.620 today so thank you
01:25:43.860 very much for that.
01:25:44.920 One interesting fact
01:25:45.760 that there are
01:25:46.560 lots of places
01:25:47.460 on the earth
01:25:48.180 that are still
01:25:48.820 unexplored essentially.
01:25:51.220 Big chunks of the
01:25:52.180 Amazon basin.
01:25:53.280 The government
01:25:53.600 sponsored me to do it
01:25:54.960 for the glory of the empire though?
01:25:57.400 No.
01:25:57.860 No.
01:25:58.780 Exactly.
01:25:59.920 Base tape
01:26:00.460 for my segment says
01:26:02.180 thank God we have
01:26:03.220 Starmer sending British 1.00
01:26:04.100 lives to die for Ukraine 0.62
01:26:05.200 instead of Corbyn
01:26:05.940 sending British lives 1.00
01:26:06.780 to die for Hamas 0.90
01:26:07.800 and neither should be
01:26:08.960 any of our business.
01:26:09.980 Dan should look into
01:26:11.040 negative income tax rates
01:26:12.580 says
01:26:13.360 we can only hope
01:26:14.600 that the war
01:26:15.200 is like chess
01:26:16.140 capture the king
01:26:17.020 to win
01:26:17.440 and not an RTS
01:26:18.360 kill every single
01:26:19.800 enemy unit.
01:26:21.260 I did look into
01:26:22.160 negative interest rates
01:26:22.880 I did Brokonomics 0.93
01:26:23.660 on it a while ago
01:26:24.240 I can't remember
01:26:24.600 what it's called though.
01:26:25.520 I'm sure you can find that
01:26:26.440 if you go back
01:26:26.900 through the archive
01:26:27.500 it's only about time
01:26:28.680 that J.D. Vance
01:26:29.280 gets his own
01:26:29.820 very fine people hoax
01:26:31.260 yeah that is basically
01:26:32.020 what this is
01:26:32.580 not quite to the same
01:26:34.240 level though
01:26:34.860 because they're not
01:26:35.340 accusing him
01:26:36.020 of having praised
01:26:36.960 Nazis.
01:26:37.640 Sophie Liv
01:26:38.900 the one who really
01:26:40.020 disrespected us
01:26:40.700 in regard to
01:26:41.240 Afghanistan
01:26:41.660 was Biden
01:26:42.500 pulling all of his
01:26:43.340 own troops out
01:26:43.880 in the middle of the
01:26:44.320 night without even
01:26:44.900 warning any of our
01:26:45.700 troops
01:26:45.980 effectively leaving
01:26:47.000 them alone
01:26:48.540 behind enemy lines
01:26:49.520 as if they were
01:26:50.040 cannon fodder
01:26:50.600 and yet no one
01:26:51.160 ever talks about that
01:26:52.120 that's an excellent
01:26:52.780 point.
01:26:54.420 Bleach Demon
01:26:54.980 the fact that Vance
01:26:55.700 has triggered so
01:26:56.240 many people
01:26:56.680 especially the
01:26:57.220 LBC gnomes
01:26:58.040 makes me ready
01:26:58.660 to vote for him
01:26:59.460 I can't wait
01:27:00.140 to see Vance
01:27:00.680 drive the
01:27:01.100 euro we needs
01:27:01.680 before him
01:27:02.160 and laugh at
01:27:02.680 the lamentations
01:27:03.400 of Zelensky
01:27:04.240 George Happ
01:27:05.480 I like the fat
01:27:06.600 Vance memes
01:27:07.280 they remind me
01:27:08.140 of the electric
01:27:08.800 Pence ones
01:27:09.460 from back in the
01:27:10.120 day
01:27:10.340 hopefully we won't
01:27:11.320 see such a repeat
01:27:12.160 in character failure
01:27:13.300 huge upgrade
01:27:14.060 isn't it
01:27:14.600 Pence to Vance
01:27:15.580 huge
01:27:16.940 yeah
01:27:17.780 Kamala Harris
01:27:19.320 to Vance
01:27:19.860 as a VP
01:27:20.340 yes
01:27:20.820 night and day
01:27:22.420 yeah
01:27:22.800 and Jimbo G
01:27:24.880 finally says
01:27:25.700 speaking of
01:27:26.180 occupation
01:27:26.640 more stabby
01:27:27.380 stabby outside
01:27:27.980 the local mosque
01:27:29.140 after a Ramadan
01:27:29.840 celebration last
01:27:30.800 night becoming
01:27:31.300 as normal as
01:27:32.000 rain in the UK
01:27:32.760 oh joy
01:27:33.600 happy pleasant
01:27:35.900 note to end
01:27:36.420 that out on
01:27:36.880 yes right
01:27:37.700 so anyway
01:27:38.760 it's a good
01:27:39.720 night for me
01:27:40.160 and it's good
01:27:40.560 night for him
01:27:41.180 there we go
01:27:42.340 cheerio see you
01:27:43.100 in the next one
01:27:43.660 bye Islander 0.79
01:27:44.560 yes bye Islander
01:27:45.440 do it
01:27:52.800 you